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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] New engine for a Honda? RESOLUTION
From: Thomas Coradeschi <tjcora@icloud.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2025 11:42:46 -0500
Delivered-to: mharc@autox.team.net
Delivered-to: shop-talk@autox.team.net
References: <OF7439AC60.D14B173F-ON85258D48.003E33F6-85258D48.003FD243@mail.megageek.com> <OF0C143EA7.849A030B-ON85258D48.004138ED-85258D48.00414C24@mail.megageek.com> <CAG1pxga3CcDxBSo2A5Zj2KDHdFa3UaMZP6EB5kT-bRq_56-jCg@mail.gmail.com> <OFA3C3A210.DAEC1EF2-ON85258D49.0080D932-85258D49.00823821@mail.megageek.com> <6F7045E5-A8C7-4580-9682-D040354AD0D3@gmail.com> <b916774a-aebf-4cbb-a8e0-4d1b6b238468@sackheads.org> <BN9PR12MB5114B4A68F038DC6D7EC2961D8A9A@BN9PR12MB5114.namprd12.prod.outlook.com> <1473894561.1333145.1766120598453@mail.yahoo.com> <OF42C908D3.385329FD-ON85258D65.0035C00C-85258D65.0036C2CD@mail.megageek.com>
I used alldata for a number of years - subscriptions for individual vehicles 
were required, unless you wanted to pay pro pricing.

Iâ??ve since discovered that Haynes has manuals for both the vehicles in 
question (honest to goodness printed manuals), so no more alldata for me.

I found their website to be mediocre and some of their info flat out 
inaccurate. When I pinged them about that their response was â??we dunno, we 
just use what the OEM gave usâ??. Meh.

â??
Tom Coradeschi
tjcora@icloud.com


> On Dec 19, 2025, at 4:58â?¯AM, eric@megageek.com wrote:
> 
> John, 
> 
> Years ago I used AllData, if I remember correctly, it was mostly just the 
> pdfs of the manuals, but not that great.  I remember one time I was looking 
> for a sensor on a Mercedes 190D, and the image was just of the sensor, but it 
> was an 'illustration' and impossible to figure out where it was on the car. 
> 
> Also, isn't it make specific, or do you get access to all makes/models? 
> 
> I'm not trying to bad mouth it, but I don't remember it being worth the 
> price.  Maybe it's changed.  I'll love to hear more about what you think of 
> it, has it gotten better? 
> 
> But right now, with youtube and AI, I've been getting great results. (but I'm 
> always willing to buy another tool!) 8>) 
> 
> FWIW on the AI side.  The Army released it's own AI and I was totally blow 
> away by it.  I had a white paper to write (about 3 pages, in a very specific 
> format.)  I just put in the data for each portion of the white paper, in 
> normal speaking voice, and in less than 30 seconds, I had a VERY 
> professional, perfectly formatted white paper.  It even included some 
> additional technical data to expand on what I fed it (and yes, I checked it 
> and it was correct.)  I was really impressed. 
> 
> However, I totally agree that AI needs to be verified and doubled checked.  
> As an instructor in the Army, we have student's try to pass off papers that 
> were AI generated and it is very clear what is AI. 
> I find it's best use is to have it do formatting, and the 'boiler plate' 
> work.  The 'substance' needs to come from the person. 
> 
> Often I need to write a letter or memo, and i just tell it what i need the 
> document to say and it formats it perfectly and does all the 'heavy lifting' 
> and i just go back and fix/add any details. 
> 
> Have a great day! 
> Moose 
> 
> 
> 
> From:        John T Blair <jblair1948@cox.net> 
> To:        "shop-talk@autox.team.net" <shop-talk@autox.team.net> 
> Date:        12/19/2025 00:08 
> Subject:        Re: [Shop-talk] New engine for a Honda? RESOLUTION 
> Sent by:        "Shop-talk" <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, December 18, 2025 at 09:34:23 PM EST, Old Dirtbeard 
> <dirtbeard@live.com> wrote: 
> 
> >I have been using MS Copilot, it is bundled with Edge for free and can be 
> >quite helpful in the initial exploration phase. It can help you to ask the 
> >right 
> >questions..... 
> 
> So with all this AI don't forget about AllData for the DIYers.  You can get a 
> 1 mo. subscription for $20.  So if you're stumped try that.  I keep meaning 
> to as I used one of the commercial on-line diagnostic similar to the "Pro" 
> version of AllData when I was talking auto classes at the local community 
> college.   
> 
> I haven't been stumped yet.  My son had a problem with his 2011 F150, no 
> instrument lights and no start.  We spent about 5 hr. working on it and 
> searching the internet  to no avail. Then he found a youtube video about the 
> problem.  Turns out a loose connector in the passenger side front kick panel. 
>  Pulled the panel and sure enough.  Plugged the plug back in and off it went. 
> 
> These computers and all the support site are our best friends!!!! 
> 
> JohnT 
> 
> John T. Blair  WA4OHZ     email:  jblair1948@cox.net 
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