I am fabricating glove boxes. I did one for my TR3. Missing for 40
yearsâ?¦â?¦ð??¿
Any interest? Direct replacement. US only. Same price as cardboard fiber
version.
Thanks,
Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
Alexander Racing Ent.
Website: Gasketinnovations.com
Email: N197tr4@cs.com
Cell: 319.464.4711
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> 1. Re: LOOK. At. THIS. (Frank Fisher)
> 2. Re: Redoing the whole commission plate process (Frank Fisher)
> 3. Commission plate (John Macartney)
> 4. Re: LOOK. At. THIS. (Paul Dorsey)
> 5. Re: Redoing the whole commission plate process (bill beecher)
> 6. Re: Triumphs Digest, Vol 19, Issue 2 (j t)
> 7. Re: Redoing the whole commission plate process (John Macartney)
> 8. Re: Redoing the whole commission plate process (John Macartney)
> 9. Re: Redoing the whole commission plate process [and how
> people can confuse things] (Philip Ethier)
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>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 19:54:57 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com>
> To: Alex&Janet Thomson <aljlthomson@charter.net>, Paul Dorsey
> <dorpaul1@gmail.com>
> Cc: Triumph List <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] LOOK. At. THIS.
> Message-ID: <1392561942.8386230.1767815697665@mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Paul how good to see you emailing again.what did you ever do with your TR?
> and im not sure i like the volvo as modified, but id sure like to drive it
> one time
>
> Frank Fisher
>
> On Tuesday, January 6, 2026 at 01:04:42 PM PST, Paul Dorsey
> <dorpaul1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> https://www.facebook.com/share/19ytP2WKwo/
>
> On Tue, Jan 6, 2026 at 8:22?AM Alex&Janet Thomson <aljlthomson@charter.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> That reminds me of International Loadstar series trucks in the early sixties.
> The serial number plate was screwed to the driver's door and sometimes the
> GVW space was left blank. You may say that wasn't a very secure or permanent
> location but the serial number was also stamped onto the left frame rail,
> just below where the steering box was bolted on. Internationals were real
> component trucks (like most medium duty trucks) with just about everything
> sourced from outside manufacturers. Unless you had a copy of the line
> settting ticket, it could be a challenge to figure out what parts to select
> when doing a major repair.
>
> ?
>
> Alex Thomson
>
> '73 TR6 and lots of farm equipment
>
> ?
>
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Greg Lemon
> Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2026 1:36 AM
> To: Triumph List <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process
>
> ?
>
> I don't have real strong feeling one way or the other on re-doing or re-using
> a commission plate, but the mention of the DMV not caring about the rivets
> reminded me of a story (I am getting old, so all I have left is my stories).
> My brother restored a one owner very original Bugeye Sprite.? He reused the
> original plate.? The original plate is secured with sheet metal screws.? He
> reused the original screws.
>
> ?
>
> Anyway, DMV didn't like the screws, said it had to be riveted.? He even
> brought the "Complete Original" book, which showed and mentioned the screws.?
> So the car with original parts is rejected at title inspection.
>
> ?
>
> I don't remember how it ended, but I think my pragmatic brother gave up and
> riveted the plate on.
>
> ?
>
> Greg Lemon
>
> TR250
>
> ?
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2026, 11:40?PM dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>
>
> I get that.? ?IMHO,? a beautiful plate complements a gorgeous restoration.?
> An original plate,? although original,? does not.
>
> ?
>
> I'm going to have my new plate laser engraved.? ?No, it's not original,? but
> it is beautiful?
>
> ?
>
> ?
>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com>
>
> Date: 1/5/26 7:52 PM (GMT-08:00)
>
> To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
>
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, Stephen Oertwig <oertwig@mac.com>
>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process
>
> ?
>
> I'm with Dave -- there's no shame, or substitute, for an original commission
> number plate irrespective of condition or attachment.? :)
>
> ?
>
> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7ZNSGg9vnb6B5GkBgNJVpXPjB8TssRwFgXW4qzn/X5/i-SqWXG5Z-X5.jpg
>
> ?
>
> Don
>
> Santa Fe
>
> (TR3B TSF202L with original commission?plate)
>
> ?
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 6:15?PM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:
>
>
> I wouldn't worry about the rivets.? The inspecting officer won't have a clue
> as to what rivets are supposed to be there.? And having a perfectly done
> commission plate constitutes over-restoration.
>
> ?
>
> Dave
>
> ?
>
> ?
>
> ?
>
> ?
>
> On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 07:59:17 AM CST, Stephen Oertwig
> <oertwig@mac.com> wrote:
>
> ?
>
> ?
>
> I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach the original one so
> sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled in Missouri. It is a
> long process. I have been studying the different rivets used on other 2000s
> so the plate looks similar.
>
> ?
>
> Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission plate has numbers
> of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was given one stamp of
> different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping details. Thought
> maybe it was a Friday car; was commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe after lunch.
>
> ?
>
> Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country. Not sure I would
> like something that perfect after seeing all the other commission plates and
> body numbers.
>
> ?
>
> Steve
>
> ?
>
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>> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 02:46:28 +0000
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>> From: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
>
>> To: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net"
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>> I was told that there are now laser "engravers" who can do this
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> -------- Original message --------
>
>> From: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>
>
>> Date: 1/3/26 4:55 PM (GMT-08:00)
>
>> To: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
>
>> Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping
>
>>
>
>> Used to be able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight.? Of course, the ?3?
>> will be wrong.
>
>> Bill
>
>>
>
>> ?The harder I work, the luckier I get?? H. Ford
>
>>
>
>>> On Dec 6, 2025, at 3:44?PM, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>
>> ?
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>> Who is the go to person for a 58 TR3a?
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>> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2026 21:26:32 -0800
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>> From: Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>
>
>> To: Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com>
>
>> Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
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>> Subject: Re: [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations
>
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>> Thanks, I'll check them out.
>
>>
>
>> On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com>
>
>> wrote:
>
>>
>
>>> Hi Sujit,
>
>>>
>
>>> I have experience with these type kits and they all work basically the
>
>>> same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and looking for a color change.
>
>>> The multiple test claims relate to the amount of fluid in the kit. You
>
>>> don't need to use much fluid for each test.
>
>>>
>
>>> Having said this you can also look for a blown head gasket by running the
>
>>> car at idle with the radiator cap off until the thermostat opens. If when
>
>>> it opens you only observe coolant flowing you're good. If coolant gets
>
>>> blown out of the radiator instead of flowing that's a good indication of a
>
>>> head gasket issue.
>
>>>
>
>>> I personally like the kits with the tube and rubber bulb like this one
>
>>> Amazon.com: Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak Test Kit -
>
>>> Made in USA : Automotive
>
>>> <https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=sr_1_3?crid=B5BELSHHE2V2&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&dib_tag=se&keywords=combustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&qid=1767361665&sprefix=Combustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&sr=8-3>
>
>>>
>
>>> You might be able to purchase a similar kit from your local auto parts
>
>>> store.
>
>>>
>
>>> Hope this helps
>
>>>
>
>>> JVV
>
>>> ------------------------------
>
>>> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Sujit Roy
>
>>> <triumphstag@gmail.com>
>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 1, 2026 7:10 PM
>
>>> *To:* Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>
>>> *Subject:* [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations
>
>>>
>
>>> I see kits on Amazon priced anywhere from 20$ up. I dont plan to test my
>
>>> engine 50-100 times. What is a good inexpensive kit folks like to use.
>
>>>
>
>>> Sujit
>
>>>
>
>>> --
>
>>> Sujit Roy
>
>>> Cupertino, California
>
>>>
>
>>> https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/
>
>>>
>
>>>
>
>>
>
>> --
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> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 20:31:57 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com>
> To: Triumph List <triumphs@autox.team.net>, Greg Lemon
> <grglmn@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process
> Message-ID: <622223094.8425608.1767817917213@mail.yahoo.com>
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>
> on commision plate rivetsas i no longer work, i have no company account and
> therefore do not get a trade discount.it looks like its going to be around
> 10.00 a pair with postage paid to lower 48.will take a couple of weeks to get
> shiped if you are interseted.if there is enough interest.
> Frank?
> On Tuesday, January 6, 2026 at 09:44:44 AM PST, Frank Fisher
> <yellowtr3@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> give me a few days.i did get a run of original rivits made.ill see if i can
> have a new run made and how much it may cost.they were quite reasonable as i
> recall
> Frank
>
> On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 10:48:21 PM PST, Greg Lemon
> <grglmn@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't have real strong feeling one way or the other on re-doing or re-using
> a commission plate, but the mention of the DMV not caring about the rivets
> reminded me of a story (I am getting old, so all I have left is my stories).
> My brother restored a one owner very original Bugeye Sprite.? He reused the
> original plate.? The original plate is secured with sheet metal screws.? He
> reused the original screws.
> Anyway, DMV didn't like the screws, said it had to be riveted.? He even
> brought the "Complete Original" book, which showed and mentioned the screws.?
> So the car with original parts is rejected at title inspection.
> I don't remember how it ended, but I think my pragmatic brother gave up and
> riveted the plate on.
> Greg LemonTR250
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2026, 11:40?PM dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>
> I get that.? ?IMHO,? a beautiful plate complements a gorgeous restoration.?
> An original plate,? although original,? does not.
> I'm going to have my new plate laser engraved.? ?No, it's not original,? but
> it is beautiful?
>
> -------- Original message --------From: Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com>
> Date: 1/5/26 7:52 PM (GMT-08:00) To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> Cc:
> triumphs@autox.team.net, Stephen Oertwig <oertwig@mac.com> Subject: Re: [TR]
> Redoing the whole commission plate process
> I'm with Dave -- there's no shame, or substitute, for an original commission
> number plate irrespective of condition or attachment.? :)
> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7ZNSGg9vnb6B5GkBgNJVpXPjB8TssRwFgXW4qzn/X5/i-SqWXG5Z-X5.jpg
> DonSanta Fe(TR3B TSF202L with original commission?plate)
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 6:15?PM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:
>
> I wouldn't worry about the rivets.? The inspecting officer won't have a clue
> as to what rivets are supposed to be there.? And having a perfectly done
> commission plate constitutes over-restoration.
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 07:59:17 AM CST, Stephen Oertwig
> <oertwig@mac.com> wrote:
>
> I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach the original one so
> sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled in Missouri. It is a
> long process. I have been studying the different rivets used on other 2000s
> so the plate looks similar.
>
> Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission plate has numbers
> of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was given one stamp of
> different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping details. Thought
> maybe it was a Friday car; was commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe after lunch.
>
> Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country. Not sure I would
> like something that perfect after seeing all the other commission plates and
> body numbers.
>
> Steve
>
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>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 02:46:28 +0000
>> From: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
>> To: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net"
>> ??? <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping
>> Message-ID: <1a67faca0d794e059a26647c9f884936@ranteer.com>
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>>
>> I was told that there are now laser "engravers" who can do this
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>
>> Date: 1/3/26 4:55 PM (GMT-08:00)
>> To: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping
>>
>> Used to be able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight.? Of course, the ?3?
>> will be wrong.
>> Bill
>>
>> ?The harder I work, the luckier I get?? H. Ford
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2025, at 3:44?PM, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> Who is the go to person for a 58 TR3a?
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>> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2026 21:26:32 -0800
>> From: Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>
>> To: Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com>
>> Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations
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>> Thanks, I'll check them out.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sujit,
>>>
>>> I have experience with these type kits and they all work basically the
>>> same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and looking for a color change.
>>> The multiple test claims relate to the amount of fluid in the kit. You
>>> don't need to use much fluid for each test.
>>>
>>> Having said this you can also look for a blown head gasket by running the
>>> car at idle with the radiator cap off until the thermostat opens. If when
>>> it opens you only observe coolant flowing you're good. If coolant gets
>>> blown out of the radiator instead of flowing that's a good indication of a
>>> head gasket issue.
>>>
>>> I personally like the kits with the tube and rubber bulb like this one
>>> Amazon.com: Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak Test Kit -
>>> Made in USA : Automotive
>>> <https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=sr_1_3?crid=B5BELSHHE2V2&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&dib_tag=se&keywords=combustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&qid=1767361665&sprefix=Combustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&sr=8-3>
>>>
>>> You might be able to purchase a similar kit from your local auto parts
>>> store.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps
>>>
>>> JVV
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Sujit Roy
>>> <triumphstag@gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 1, 2026 7:10 PM
>>> *To:* Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>>> *Subject:* [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations
>>>
>>> I see kits on Amazon priced anywhere from 20$ up. I dont plan to test my
>>> engine 50-100 times. What is a good inexpensive kit folks like to use.
>>>
>>> Sujit
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sujit Roy
>>> Cupertino, California
>>>
>>> https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/
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> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 22:30:43 +0000
> From: John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.com>
> To: oertwig@mac.com
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: [TR] Commission plate
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> I?d say that?s definitely ?a Nobby plate?.
> Picture the scene.
> To the background noise of howling compressed air tools, frantic hammering,
> oaths, a blaring public address system that no one can understand because the
> announcer in the telephone exchange always sounds as though she?s talking
> with a clothes peg on her nose - some elderly men are sitting at their
> workstations, lugubriously stamping blank commission plates. One of them is
> peering at his block of wood holding his tool steel letter punches.
> ?Wots yer looking for, Nobby??
> ?Can?t find me S and C punches. One o? yow thievin? bastard ?as took it an?
> didn?t even bleed in? ask me before?and.?
> Brief silence until the PA system is briefly silent.
> ?Any of yers got Nobby?s S an C punches? Cmon, someone?s got it ain?t yer??
> Peerings take place as operatives study their punch racks. Nobby glares at
> all of them through his fish eye glasses. Heads shake in denial
> ?Cmon, yow lot. Yow knows all me punches got a painted red band on ?em so oi
> knows ?os arse ter kick when oi cums back from ?avin a Jimmy! Ooze got ?em??
> Another pause.
> ?Nob, yer can borra mine if I stands over yer ter make sure yer don?t pinch
> em and paint em red later?.
> ?Ta, mate?.
> ?Ere, Nob, afore yer ?it it, check the yeller side is facin yer. Ven you?ll
> know yerve got it the right way round so some yank can read it.?
> Nobby checks the yellow side is facing him as he hits the punch with his
> well-worn hammer. Handing the punches back to his colleague, he studies his
> handiwork.
> ?Yow niver said nuffink about that S and C bein small. So small, oi can ardly
> read them buggers. ***k me gently, that?ll niver git past Inspection on Final
> Finish!?
> ?Oo ever said anyfink about bein legible? Numbers on the plate ain?t it and
> the plate?ll soon be riveted on? Too bloody late to moan about anyfink we do
> ere bein readable. No buggers ever look at em anyways, so don?t you lose lose
> no sleep about it Nobby my old son! Just let someone else moan about it later
> on and in anuvver place.?
>
> "
> .............Fifty or more years later, someone did actually read that plate
> and ?worried? about it.
>
> Jonmac
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 20:57:01 -0500
> From: Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1@gmail.com>
> To: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com>
> Cc: "Alex&Janet Thomson" <aljlthomson@charter.net>, Triumph List
> <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] LOOK. At. THIS.
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> I sold it. i?m kinda sorry that I did. And good to hear from you Frank I am
> no longer able to do anything outside my head injured was getting too bad
> thanks.
>
>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2026 at 2:54?PM Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Paul how good to see you emailing again.
>> what did you ever do with your TR?
>>
>> and im not sure i like the volvo as modified, but id sure like to drive it
>> one time
>>
>>
>> Frank Fisher
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 6, 2026 at 01:04:42 PM PST, Paul Dorsey <
>> dorpaul1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/share/19ytP2WKwo/
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2026 at 8:22?AM Alex&Janet Thomson <aljlthomson@charter.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> That reminds me of International Loadstar series trucks in the early
>> sixties. The serial number plate was screwed to the driver's door and
>> sometimes the GVW space was left blank. You may say that wasn't a very
>> secure or permanent location but the serial number was also stamped onto
>> the left frame rail, just below where the steering box was bolted on.
>> Internationals were real component trucks (like most medium duty trucks)
>> with just about everything sourced from outside manufacturers. Unless you
>> had a copy of the line settting ticket, it could be a challenge to figure
>> out what parts to select when doing a major repair.
>>
>>
>>
>> Alex Thomson
>>
>> '73 TR6 and lots of farm equipment
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Greg
>> Lemon
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 6, 2026 1:36 AM
>> *To:* Triumph List <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't have real strong feeling one way or the other on re-doing or
>> re-using a commission plate, but the mention of the DMV not caring about
>> the rivets reminded me of a story (I am getting old, so all I have left is
>> my stories). My brother restored a one owner very original Bugeye Sprite.
>> He reused the original plate. The original plate is secured with sheet
>> metal screws. He reused the original screws.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyway, DMV didn't like the screws, said it had to be riveted. He even
>> brought the "Complete Original" book, which showed and mentioned the
>> screws. So the car with original parts is rejected at title inspection.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't remember how it ended, but I think my pragmatic brother gave up
>> and riveted the plate on.
>>
>>
>>
>> Greg Lemon
>>
>> TR250
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2026, 11:40?PM dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>>
>> I get that. IMHO, a beautiful plate complements a gorgeous
>> restoration. An original plate, although original, does not.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm going to have my new plate laser engraved. No, it's not original,
>> but it is beautiful
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>>
>> From: Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com>
>>
>> Date: 1/5/26 7:52 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>
>> To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
>>
>> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, Stephen Oertwig <oertwig@mac.com>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm with Dave -- there's no shame, or substitute, for an original
>> commission number plate irrespective of condition or attachment. :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7ZNSGg9vnb6B5GkBgNJVpXPjB8TssRwFgXW4qzn/X5/i-SqWXG5Z-X5.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>> Don
>>
>> Santa Fe
>>
>> (TR3B TSF202L with original commission plate)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 6:15?PM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:
>>
>> I wouldn't worry about the rivets. The inspecting officer won't have a
>> clue as to what rivets are supposed to be there. And having a perfectly
>> done commission plate constitutes over-restoration.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 07:59:17 AM CST, Stephen Oertwig <
>> oertwig@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach the original one
>> so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled in Missouri. It is
>> a long process. I have been studying the different rivets used on other
>> 2000s so the plate looks similar.
>>
>>
>>
>> Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission plate has
>> numbers of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was given one
>> stamp of different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping details.
>> Thought maybe it was a Friday car; was commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe
>> after lunch.
>>
>>
>>
>> Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country. Not sure I
>> would like something that perfect after seeing all the other commission
>> plates and body numbers.
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>>>> On Jan 4, 2026, at 1:00?PM, triumphs-request@autox.team.net wrote:
>>>
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>>> 1. Re: new commission plate and stamping (dave northrup)
>>
>>> 2. Re: Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations
>>
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>>
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>>> Message: 1
>>
>>> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 02:46:28 +0000
>>
>>> From: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
>>
>>> To: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net"
>>
>>> <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping
>>
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>>>
>>
>>> I was told that there are now laser "engravers" who can do this
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>
>>> From: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>
>>
>>> Date: 1/3/26 4:55 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>
>>> To: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Used to be able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight. Of course, the
>> ?3? will be wrong.
>>
>>> Bill
>>
>>>
>>
>>> ?The harder I work, the luckier I get? H. Ford
>>
>>>
>>
>>>> On Dec 6, 2025, at 3:44?PM, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>
>>> ?
>>
>>> Who is the go to person for a 58 TR3a?
>>
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>>> Message: 2
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>>> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2026 21:26:32 -0800
>>
>>> From: Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>
>>
>>> To: Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com>
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>>
>>> Subject: Re: [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations
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>>
>>> Thanks, I'll check them out.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com>
>>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>>>> Hi Sujit,
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> I have experience with these type kits and they all work basically the
>>
>>>> same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and looking for a color
>> change.
>>
>>>> The multiple test claims relate to the amount of fluid in the kit. You
>>
>>>> don't need to use much fluid for each test.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Having said this you can also look for a blown head gasket by running
>> the
>>
>>>> car at idle with the radiator cap off until the thermostat opens. If
>> when
>>
>>>> it opens you only observe coolant flowing you're good. If coolant gets
>>
>>>> blown out of the radiator instead of flowing that's a good indication
>> of a
>>
>>>> head gasket issue.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> I personally like the kits with the tube and rubber bulb like this one
>>
>>>> Amazon.com: Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak Test Kit -
>>
>>>> Made in USA : Automotive
>>
>>>> <
>> https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=sr_1_3?crid=B5BELSHHE2V2&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&dib_tag=se&keywords=combustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&qid=1767361665&sprefix=Combustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&sr=8-3
>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> You might be able to purchase a similar kit from your local auto parts
>>
>>>> store.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Hope this helps
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> JVV
>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>
>>>> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Sujit
>> Roy
>>
>>>> <triumphstag@gmail.com>
>>
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 1, 2026 7:10 PM
>>
>>>> *To:* Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>>
>>>> *Subject:* [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> I see kits on Amazon priced anywhere from 20$ up. I dont plan to test my
>>
>>>> engine 50-100 times. What is a good inexpensive kit folks like to use.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Sujit
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> --
>>
>>>> Sujit Roy
>>
>>>> Cupertino, California
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
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>>
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> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 22:31:41 -0600
> From: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>
> To: Macartney John <johnbmacartney@gmx.com>
> Cc: Oertwig Stephen <oertwig@mac.com>, triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process
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> John,
> Din?t Sir Black hire some army vets to bang out the commission plates.
> Bill
>
> ?The harder I work, the luckier I get? H. Ford
>
> On Jan 5, 2026, at 8:33?PM, John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.com> wrote:
>
> ?Nah. We none of us worked that fast! Okay, commission build on a Tuesday but
> don?t expect anything to appear until eight weeks come Friday. Even then,
> count yer self lucky ?cos you ain?t given us an opportunity to go on strike.
> Funny sized letters and numbers? Sounds like Nobby with his fisheye glasses
> and two left boots is back in circulation again.
>
> Jonmac
>
>> On 5 Jan 2026, at 02:04, Stephen Oertwig <oertwig@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach the original one
>> so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled in Missouri. It is
>> a long process. I have been studying the different rivets used on other
>> 2000s so the plate looks similar.
>>
>> Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission plate has numbers
>> of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was given one stamp of
>> different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping details. Thought
>> maybe it was a Friday car; was commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe after lunch.
>>
>> Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country. Not sure I would
>> like something that perfect after seeing all the other commission plates and
>> body numbers.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>>> On Jan 4, 2026, at 1:00?PM, triumphs-request@autox.team.net wrote:
>>>
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>>> 1. Re: new commission plate and stamping (dave northrup)
>>> 2. Re: Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations
>>> (Sujit Roy)
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>>>
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 02:46:28 +0000
>>> From: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
>>> To: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net"
>>> <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping
>>> Message-ID: <1a67faca0d794e059a26647c9f884936@ranteer.com>
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>>> I was told that there are now laser "engravers" who can do this
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>
>>> Date: 1/3/26 4:55 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>> To: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping
>>>
>>> Used to be able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight. Of course, the
>>> ?3? will be wrong.
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> ?The harder I work, the luckier I get? H. Ford
>>>
>>>> On Dec 6, 2025, at 3:44?PM, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?
>>> Who is the go to person for a 58 TR3a?
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>>> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2026 21:26:32 -0800
>>> From: Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>
>>> To: Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com>
>>> Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations
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>>> Thanks, I'll check them out.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Sujit,
>>>>
>>>> I have experience with these type kits and they all work basically the
>>>> same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and looking for a color change.
>>>> The multiple test claims relate to the amount of fluid in the kit. You
>>>> don't need to use much fluid for each test.
>>>>
>>>> Having said this you can also look for a blown head gasket by running the
>>>> car at idle with the radiator cap off until the thermostat opens. If when
>>>> it opens you only observe coolant flowing you're good. If coolant gets
>>>> blown out of the radiator instead of flowing that's a good indication of a
>>>> head gasket issue.
>>>>
>>>> I personally like the kits with the tube and rubber bulb like this one
>>>> Amazon.com: Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak Test Kit -
>>>> Made in USA : Automotive
>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=sr_1_3?crid=B5BELSHHE2V2&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&dib_tag=se&keywords=combustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&qid=1767361665&sprefix=Combustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&sr=8-3>
>>>>
>>>> You might be able to purchase a similar kit from your local auto parts
>>>> store.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps
>>>>
>>>> JVV
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Sujit Roy
>>>> <triumphstag@gmail.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 1, 2026 7:10 PM
>>>> *To:* Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>>>> *Subject:* [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations
>>>>
>>>> I see kits on Amazon priced anywhere from 20$ up. I dont plan to test my
>>>> engine 50-100 times. What is a good inexpensive kit folks like to use.
>>>>
>>>> Sujit
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sujit Roy
>>>> Cupertino, California
>>>>
>>>> https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>> Sujit Roy
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> Listers,
> Regarding head gasket leaks. Now that a huge percentage of cars are ob2
> complaint there must be thousands of older exhaust/tailpipe sniffers laying
> dormant. The same sniffers can also be used to sniff a radiator!
> Tomorrow I will ask a couple of local shops. The was a unit made by Hamilton
> Standard that worked well.
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 02:46:28 +0000
> From: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
> To: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net"
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> Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping
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> I was told that there are now laser "engravers" who can do this
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>
> Date: 1/3/26 4:55 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
> Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping
>
> Used to be able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight. Of course, the ?3?
> will be wrong.
> Bill
>
> ?The harder I work, the luckier I get? H. Ford
>
> On Dec 6, 2025, at 3:44?PM, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>
> ?
> Who is the go to person for a 58 TR3a?
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> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2026 21:26:32 -0800
> From: Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>
> To: Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com>
> Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations
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> Thanks, I'll check them out.
>
> On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sujit,
>>
>> I have experience with these type kits and they all work basically the
>> same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and looking for a color change.
>> The multiple test claims relate to the amount of fluid in the kit. You
>> don't need to use much fluid for each test.
>>
>> Having said this you can also look for a blown head gasket by running the
>> car at idle with the radiator cap off until the thermostat opens. If when
>> it opens you only observe coolant flowing you're good. If coolant gets
>> blown out of the radiator instead of flowing that's a good indication of a
>> head gasket issue.
>>
>> I personally like the kits with the tube and rubber bulb like this one
>> Amazon.com: Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak Test Kit -
>> Made in USA : Automotive
>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FBlock-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak%2Fdp%2FB06VVBSFTF%2Fref%3Dsr_1_3%3Fcrid%3DB5BELSHHE2V2%26dib%3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo%26dib_tag%3Dse%26keywords%3Dcombustion%2Bgas%2Btester%2Bfor%2Bcoolant%26qid%3D1767361665%26sprefix%3DCombustion%2Bgas%2B%252Caps%252C3537%26sr%3D8-3&data=05%7C02%7C%7Cb95c5582e7564ca852df08de4bd33f09%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C639031567834836948%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2FBsQmZ7jGVHOyM7Iwv3Y%2BQ9G%2FmzsL4tLK%2BpKB6StJH8%3D&reserved=0<https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-L
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>>
>> You might be able to purchase a similar kit from your local auto parts
>> store.
>>
>> Hope this helps
>>
>> JVV
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Sujit Roy
>> <triumphstag@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 1, 2026 7:10 PM
>> *To:* Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations
>>
>> I see kits on Amazon priced anywhere from 20$ up. I dont plan to test my
>> engine 50-100 times. What is a good inexpensive kit folks like to use.
>>
>> Sujit
>>
>> --
>> Sujit Roy
>> Cupertino, California
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> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2026 10:39:53 +0000
> From: John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.com>
> To: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>
> Cc: Oertwig Stephen <oertwig@mac.com>, triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process
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> He did. Mostly they were former prewar employees who were guaranteed a job at
> Standard Motor Co if they survived the war. Black also instructed Personnel
> Dept that whatever job they were offered that their salaries were to be at
> the very summit for that job grade plus 15% - in perpetuity until they either
> retired or died in service. I based the conversation of yesterday on two of
> those men who did that job. Both had serious war wounds but indomitable
> spirits and humour.
>
> JM
>
>> On 8 Jan 2026, at 04:31, bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> John,
>> Din?t Sir Black hire some army vets to bang out the commission plates.
>> Bill
>>
>> ?The harder I work, the luckier I get? H. Ford
>>
>> On Jan 5, 2026, at 8:33?PM, John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?Nah. We none of us worked that fast! Okay, commission build on a Tuesday
>> but don?t expect anything to appear until eight weeks come Friday. Even
>> then, count yer self lucky ?cos you ain?t given us an opportunity to go on
>> strike.
>> Funny sized letters and numbers? Sounds like Nobby with his fisheye glasses
>> and two left boots is back in circulation again.
>>
>> Jonmac
>>
>>>> On 5 Jan 2026, at 02:04, Stephen Oertwig <oertwig@mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach the original one
>>> so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled in Missouri. It is
>>> a long process. I have been studying the different rivets used on other
>>> 2000s so the plate looks similar.
>>>
>>> Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission plate has numbers
>>> of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was given one stamp of
>>> different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping details. Thought
>>> maybe it was a Friday car; was commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe after lunch.
>>>
>>> Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country. Not sure I
>>> would like something that perfect after seeing all the other commission
>>> plates and body numbers.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>> On Jan 4, 2026, at 1:00?PM, triumphs-request@autox.team.net wrote:
>>>>
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>>>> 1. Re: new commission plate and stamping (dave northrup)
>>>> 2. Re: Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations
>>>> (Sujit Roy)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 02:46:28 +0000
>>>> From: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
>>>> To: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net"
>>>> <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping
>>>> Message-ID: <1a67faca0d794e059a26647c9f884936@ranteer.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>
>>>> I was told that there are now laser "engravers" who can do this
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>> From: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>
>>>> Date: 1/3/26 4:55 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>>> To: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping
>>>>
>>>> Used to be able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight. Of course, the
>>>> ?3? will be wrong.
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>> ?The harder I work, the luckier I get? H. Ford
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 6, 2025, at 3:44?PM, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ?
>>>> Who is the go to person for a 58 TR3a?
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>>>> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2026 21:26:32 -0800
>>>> From: Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>
>>>> To: Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <CANLCLaFpcQwtS2hf5x8YWBbs8DMCJVyo4V3ORj-LAOJwwG2BGw@mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, I'll check them out.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Sujit,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have experience with these type kits and they all work basically the
>>>>> same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and looking for a color
>>>>> change.
>>>>> The multiple test claims relate to the amount of fluid in the kit. You
>>>>> don't need to use much fluid for each test.
>>>>>
>>>>> Having said this you can also look for a blown head gasket by running the
>>>>> car at idle with the radiator cap off until the thermostat opens. If when
>>>>> it opens you only observe coolant flowing you're good. If coolant gets
>>>>> blown out of the radiator instead of flowing that's a good indication of a
>>>>> head gasket issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> I personally like the kits with the tube and rubber bulb like this one
>>>>> Amazon.com: Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak Test Kit -
>>>>> Made in USA : Automotive
>>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=sr_1_3?crid=B5BELSHHE2V2&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&dib_tag=se&keywords=combustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&qid=1767361665&sprefix=Combustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&sr=8-3>
>>>>>
>>>>> You might be able to purchase a similar kit from your local auto parts
>>>>> store.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps
>>>>>
>>>>> JVV
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Sujit Roy
>>>>> <triumphstag@gmail.com>
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 1, 2026 7:10 PM
>>>>> *To:* Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>>>>> *Subject:* [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations
>>>>>
>>>>> I see kits on Amazon priced anywhere from 20$ up. I dont plan to test my
>>>>> engine 50-100 times. What is a good inexpensive kit folks like to use.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sujit
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sujit Roy
>>>>> Cupertino, California
>>>>>
>>>>> https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Cupertino, California
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> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2026 15:49:47 +0000
> From: John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.com>
> To: Stephen Oertwig <oertwig@mac.com>
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process
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> Please do. I?ve noticed in the past that the person who commendably promotes
> Drive Your Triumph Day each February, has unknowingly got some facts about
> Black (which I now can?t recall) rather back to front. It?s this sort of
> thing that misleads people who really do value Standard Motor Company history
> and it?s hellishly difficult to correct these errors at a later date. Maybe
> I?m being unnecessarily pedantic but it still grieves me when well-intended
> people don?t check their facts. Exactly the same situation applies when other
> enthusiasts for Jaguar and MG do the same thing.
>
> Cheers, Jonmac
>
>> On 8 Jan 2026, at 15:04, Stephen Oertwig <oertwig@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear John,
>>
>> Again, a piece of history people need to know. Shows the gratitude Sir John
>> Black had for those who served. This story should be told when we honor his
>> legacy Feb. 10.
>>
>> V/R
>> Steve
>>
>>>> On Jan 8, 2026, at 4:40?AM, John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?
>>> He did. Mostly they were former prewar employees who were guaranteed a job
>>> at Standard Motor Co if they survived the war. Black also instructed
>>> Personnel Dept that whatever job they were offered that their salaries were
>>> to be at the very summit for that job grade plus 15% - in perpetuity until
>>> they either retired or died in service. I based the conversation of
>>> yesterday on two of those men who did that job. Both had serious war wounds
>>> but indomitable spirits and humour.
>>>
>>> JM
>>>
>>>> On 8 Jan 2026, at 04:31, bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> John,
>>>> Din?t Sir Black hire some army vets to bang out the commission plates.
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>> ?The harder I work, the luckier I get? H. Ford
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 5, 2026, at 8:33?PM, John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ?Nah. We none of us worked that fast! Okay, commission build on a Tuesday
>>>> but don?t expect anything to appear until eight weeks come Friday. Even
>>>> then, count yer self lucky ?cos you ain?t given us an opportunity to go on
>>>> strike.
>>>> Funny sized letters and numbers? Sounds like Nobby with his fisheye
>>>> glasses and two left boots is back in circulation again.
>>>>
>>>> Jonmac
>>>>
>>>>> On 5 Jan 2026, at 02:04, Stephen Oertwig <oertwig@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach the original
>>>>> one so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled in Missouri.
>>>>> It is a long process. I have been studying the different rivets used on
>>>>> other 2000s so the plate looks similar.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission plate has
>>>>> numbers of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was given one
>>>>> stamp of different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping details.
>>>>> Thought maybe it was a Friday car; was commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe
>>>>> after lunch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country. Not sure I
>>>>> would like something that perfect after seeing all the other commission
>>>>> plates and body numbers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 4, 2026, at 1:00?PM, triumphs-request@autox.team.net wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Send Triumphs mailing list submissions to
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Re: new commission plate and stamping (dave northrup)
>>>>>> 2. Re: Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations
>>>>>> (Sujit Roy)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>>> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 02:46:28 +0000
>>>>>> From: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
>>>>>> To: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net"
>>>>>> <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping
>>>>>> Message-ID: <1a67faca0d794e059a26647c9f884936@ranteer.com>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was told that there are now laser "engravers" who can do this
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>>> From: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>
>>>>>> Date: 1/3/26 4:55 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>>>>> To: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Used to be able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight. Of course, the
>>>>>> ?3? will be wrong.
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ?The harder I work, the luckier I get? H. Ford
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2025, at 3:44?PM, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ?
>>>>>> Who is the go to person for a 58 TR3a?
>>>>>> ** triumphs@autox.team.net **
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>>> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2026 21:26:32 -0800
>>>>>> From: Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations
>>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>> <CANLCLaFpcQwtS2hf5x8YWBbs8DMCJVyo4V3ORj-LAOJwwG2BGw@mail.gmail.com>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, I'll check them out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Sujit,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have experience with these type kits and they all work basically the
>>>>>>> same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and looking for a color
>>>>>>> change.
>>>>>>> The multiple test claims relate to the amount of fluid in the kit. You
>>>>>>> don't need to use much fluid for each test.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Having said this you can also look for a blown head gasket by running
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> car at idle with the radiator cap off until the thermostat opens. If
>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>> it opens you only observe coolant flowing you're good. If coolant gets
>>>>>>> blown out of the radiator instead of flowing that's a good indication
>>>>>>> of a
>>>>>>> head gasket issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I personally like the kits with the tube and rubber bulb like this one
>>>>>>> Amazon.com: Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak Test Kit -
>>>>>>> Made in USA : Automotive
>>>>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=sr_1_3?crid=B5BELSHHE2V2&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&dib_tag=se&keywords=combustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&qid=1767361665&sprefix=Combustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&sr=8-3>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You might be able to purchase a similar kit from your local auto parts
>>>>>>> store.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope this helps
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> JVV
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Sujit
>>>>>>> Roy
>>>>>>> <triumphstag@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 1, 2026 7:10 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>>>>>>> *Subject:* [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I see kits on Amazon priced anywhere from 20$ up. I dont plan to test my
>>>>>>> engine 50-100 times. What is a good inexpensive kit folks like to use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sujit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Sujit Roy
>>>>>>> Cupertino, California
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Sujit Roy
>>>>>> Cupertino, California
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> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2026 11:53:38 -0600
> From: Philip Ethier <pethier7@gmail.com>
> To: John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.com>
> Cc: Stephen Oertwig <oertwig@mac.com>, Triumphs
> <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process [and how
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> On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 9:57?AM John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Please do. I?ve noticed in the past that the person who commendably
>> promotes Drive Your Triumph Day each February, has unknowingly got some
>> facts about Black (which I now can?t recall) rather back to front. It?s
>> this sort of thing that misleads people who really do value Standard Motor
>> Company history and it?s hellishly difficult to correct these errors at a
>> later date. Maybe I?m being unnecessarily pedantic but it still grieves me
>> when well-intended people don?t check their facts.
>>
>
> Since my retirement from my day job, I have gotten the genealogy bug. The
> havoc that well-meaning dabblers can cause on the Internet is amazing.
>
> THere is an organization called Find A Grave. People who have found other
> people's mistakes elsewhere take these untruths and put them on FG
> memorials, Then other folks think that FG is a credible source and repeat
> these errors back into the other databases.
>
> For instance, my late wife was descended from Margaret Gavin (born in
> Liverpool of Irish parents) and Angus Weatherhead, her 2nd husband.
> Margaret's first husband was Matthew Slattery, reportedly born in Ireland.
> Margaret and Matthew were married in Wisconsin, then moved to Minnesota
> where they lived with their several children including Helen Slattery.
> Matthew died on Christmas Eve 1897. I have found no record that any of
> these people ever lived in Michigan.
>
> Meanwhile there was another Matthew Slattery. Of course, there have been
> many people named Mattew Slattery!. THIS one married Caherine Shields in
> Michigan. They had several children, including Helen Slattery. This
> family seems to have stayed in Michigan.
>
> As soon as someone on Ancestry.com (or the like) conflated the two men
> named Matthew Slattery, the trouble began. The tangle of incorrect
> associations for not just Matthew Slattery, but for Helen
> Slattery, snowballed out of control. Next thing you know, there was a
> conflation of Margaret Gavin and Catherine Shields.
>
>
> Phil Ethier, West Side, Saint Paul Minnesota, USA
> 2006 Gulf Stream Conquest Super C, 8.1, white
> 2011 Cayman 2.9 PDK, white
> 2021 Ford F-150 3500cc twin turbo, white
> 1991 Caterham 1700 Super Sprint, not white
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