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To: John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] Following on from yesterday...
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2025 19:09:18 +0000 (UTC)
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It's interesting that Uley Brewery has a strong presence on the internet (i=
e, they have a website) but Google USA seemed not to look beyond our border=
s when searching the WORLD wide web.
Dave=20


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    On Monday, December 22, 2025 at 12:55:39 PM CST, John Macartney <johnbm=
acartney@gmx.com> wrote:  =20

 Dave, you are partly correct about Old Pigs Ear beer. It=E2=80=99s now cal=
led just Pigs Ear and is brewed by the Uley Brewery in Gloucestershire (pro=
nounced Glostershuh). It=E2=80=99s therefore a very local brew to where I l=
ive and has won several prizes in competitions run by our Campaign for Real=
 Ales (CAMRA). It=E2=80=99s a pale ale, very hoppy and is a tad over 5% alc=
ohol. After a few pints, you=E2=80=99ll be ready to drive fast through spee=
d limits and not get caught. The =E2=80=98old=E2=80=99 part of its original=
 name was removed when a group supporting ageism in general felt it was unk=
ind to elderly people. They didn=E2=80=99t seem to think about what the pig=
s felt about it....
JM
On 22 Dec 2025, at 18:10, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:


Yet another engaging treatise on the history of our cars.=C2=A0 As a divers=
ion I googled "Old Pig's Ear" and And did not find any reference to a Briti=
sh brewery serving "Old Pig's Ear" but there is a brewery in New Hampshire =
offering up "Pig's Ear Brown" which is an English style beer.=C2=A0 Sounds =
yummy.=C2=A0 I must check it out.=C2=A0=C2=A0
BTW Woodstock Brewery started brewing in 1995.=C2=A0 I wonder if this is th=
e same beer that found its way across the pond.
On another note, Green's Dictionary of Slang defines Pig's Ear as slang for=
 beer (possibly Cockney rhyming slang).=C2=A0 As in=C2=A0"I bunged down a t=
osheroon=C2=A0for two pigs=E2=80=99 ears."
Dave=20


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    On Monday, December 22, 2025 at 10:32:02 AM CST, AOL <johnbmacartney@gm=
x.com> wrote:  =20

 I've been clearing up my SSD today of junk and came across this attached a=
rticle I wrote about 12 years ago for a UK club. Coincidence really, becaus=
e it deals with the aftermath of an expired letter of credit which was hope=
fully explained to you yesterday.This one has pictures in it but you'll fin=
d them at the end with their captions=C2=A0Jonmac** triumphs@autox.team.net=
 **

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs=C2=A0 http://www.team.net/a=
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=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">It's interesting that Uley Brewery has a str=
ong presence on the internet (ie, they have a website) but Google USA seeme=
d not to look beyond our borders when searching the WORLD wide web.</div><d=
iv><br></div><div class=3D"ydpf667ca86signature"><div style=3D"color: black=
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ont size=3D"4">Dave <br></font></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
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                        On Monday, December 22, 2025 at 12:55:39 PM CST, Jo=
hn Macartney &lt;johnbmacartney@gmx.com&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp197a5195yiv8445619757"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Dave, you are partly correct about Old Pigs Ear=
 beer. It=E2=80=99s now called just Pigs Ear and is brewed by the Uley Brew=
ery in Gloucestershire (pronounced Glostershuh). It=E2=80=99s therefore a v=
ery local brew to where I live and has won several prizes in competitions r=
un by our Campaign for Real Ales (CAMRA). It=E2=80=99s a pale ale, very hop=
py and is a tad over 5% alcohol. After a few pints, you=E2=80=99ll be ready=
 to drive fast through speed limits and not get caught. The =E2=80=98old=E2=
=80=99 part of its original name was removed when a group supporting ageism=
 in general felt it was unkind to elderly people. They didn=E2=80=99t seem =
to think about what the pigs felt about it....</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">JM</div><div id=3D"ydp197a5195yiv844561=
9757yqt49026" class=3D"ydp197a5195yiv8445619757yqt2666018803"><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br clear=3D"none">On 22 Dec 2025, at 18:10, DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a shape=
=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bl=
ank">dave1massey@cs.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"=
></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-family=
:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" class=3D"ydp197a5195yiv84456=
19757ydpebafaeceyahoo-style-wrap"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Yet another engagin=
g treatise on the history of our cars.&nbsp; As a diversion I googled "Old =
Pig's Ear" and And did not find any reference to a British brewery serving =
"Old Pig's Ear" but there is a brewery in New Hampshire offering up "Pig's =
Ear Brown" which is an English style beer.&nbsp; Sounds yummy.&nbsp; I must=
 check it out.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">BTW Woodstock Brewery started brewing in 1995.&nbsp; I wond=
er if this is the same beer that found its way across the pond.</div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">On another note, Green=
's Dictionary of Slang defines Pig's Ear as slang for beer (possibly Cockne=
y rhyming slang).&nbsp; As in&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">"<span><span styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(68, 68, 68);font-family:Libertine, serif;font-size:14px;lett=
er-spacing:normal;">I bunged down a tosheroon</span><span style=3D"color:rg=
b(68, 68, 68);font-family:Libertine, serif;font-size:14px;letter-spacing:no=
rmal;">&nbsp;for two pigs=E2=80=99 ears."</span></span></div><div><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"ydp197a5195yiv8445619757ydpebafaecesignature"=
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                        On Monday, December 22, 2025 at 10:32:02 AM CST, AO=
L &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:johnbmacartney@gmx.com"; rel=3D"nofol=
low" target=3D"_blank">johnbmacartney@gmx.com</a>&gt; wrote:
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2492"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Verdana;font-size:12.0px;"><div>I've b=
een clearing up my SSD today of junk and came across this attached article =
I wrote about 12 years ago for a UK club. Coincidence really, because it de=
als with the aftermath of an expired letter of credit which was hopefully e=
xplained to you yesterday.</div>

<div>This one has pictures in it but you'll find them at the end with their=
 captions</div>

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