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Re: [TR] Clutch Return Spring and Pedal Position

To: Rochlin Robert <rrochlin@comcast.net>, John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] Clutch Return Spring and Pedal Position
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
Date: Sun, 3 May 2026 10:57:53 +0000 (UTC)
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It sounds like the circlip that retains the actuating rod has gone missing.=
=C2=A0 This circlip prevents the rod from exiting the end of the cylinder a=
nd stops pedal travel to a reasonable position depending on the amount of w=
ear and elongation that has occurred over the years in the holes for the cl=
evis pin which I can attest from experience can be considerable.=C2=A0 But =
I digress.=C2=A0 There should be a circlip that keeps the actuating rod cap=
tive in the cylinder and if it is not there you run the risk of loosing the=
 ability of disengaging the clutch which can ruin your day.
Dave=20


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    On Saturday, May 2, 2026 at 03:59:37 PM CDT, John Macartney <johnbmacar=
tney@gmx.com> wrote:  =20

 Rob,

Are you sure the spring you=E2=80=99ve got is the correct length? What you =
describe seems more than a bit unusual. It=E2=80=99s so long since I=E2=80=
=99ve had my head in a TR footwell, I can=E2=80=99t remember how the spring=
 was attached to the body. Can others enlighten us/me with a pic or two of =
their own cars?

Jonmac

> On 2 May 2026, at 15:23, Rochlin Robert <rrochlin@comcast.net> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I've pulled the old TR6 out of hibernation tuned it and adju=
sted the valve for the upcoming season. The car is running great.=20
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I'm now=C2=A0 attempting to install the clutch return spring=
 on the TR6.=C2=A0 I haven't had a return spring in place since I acquired=
=C2=A0 the car over 30 years ago, but I had the spring and decided to insta=
ll it. The issue is that without the spring the clutch pedal is at the prop=
er orientation to the brake pedal but when I install the spring the clutch =
pedal pulls=C2=A0 toward the driver and is much higher than should be and a=
lso pulls the clutch actuating rod out of the clutch master cylinder. It al=
most seems as if there is some kind of stop missing. What is supposed to ke=
ep the clutch pedal from hyperextending toward the driver with the return s=
pring in place?=20
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 As I said, I haven't had the spring in place since I got the=
 car and can continue to live without it, but I'd like to install it if it =
will contribute to having a bit more footwell room.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thanks.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Best,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Bob
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 '72 TR6.

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=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">It sounds like the circlip that retains the =
actuating rod has gone missing.&nbsp; This circlip prevents the rod from ex=
iting the end of the cylinder and stops pedal travel to a reasonable positi=
on depending on the amount of wear and elongation that has occurred over th=
e years in the holes for the clevis pin which I can attest from experience =
can be considerable.&nbsp; But I digress.&nbsp; There should be a circlip t=
hat keeps the actuating rod captive in the cylinder and if it is not there =
you run the risk of loosing the ability of disengaging the clutch which can=
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                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">Rob,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">Are you sure the spring you=E2=80=99ve got is the corr=
ect length? What you describe seems more than a bit unusual. It=E2=80=99s s=
o long since I=E2=80=99ve had my head in a TR footwell, I can=E2=80=99t rem=
ember how the spring was attached to the body. Can others enlighten us/me w=
ith a pic or two of their own cars?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">Jonmac<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt; On 2 May 2026, at 15:23, Rochlin Robert &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rrochlin@=
comcast.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">rrochlin@comcast.net</a>&gt=
; wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; I've pulled the old TR6 out of hi=
bernation tuned it and adjusted the valve for the upcoming season. The car =
is running great. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;  I'm now&nbs=
p; attempting to install the clutch return spring on the TR6.&nbsp; I haven=
't had a return spring in place since I acquired&nbsp; the car over 30 year=
s ago, but I had the spring and decided to install it. The issue is that wi=
thout the spring the clutch pedal is at the proper orientation to the brake=
 pedal but when I install the spring the clutch pedal pulls&nbsp; toward th=
e driver and is much higher than should be and also pulls the clutch actuat=
ing rod out of the clutch master cylinder. It almost seems as if there is s=
ome kind of stop missing. What is supposed to keep the clutch pedal from hy=
perextending toward the driver with the return spring in place? <br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; As I said, I haven't had the spring in pl=
ace since I got the car and can continue to live without it, but I'd like t=
o install it if it will contribute to having a bit more footwell room.<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Thanks.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Best,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Bob<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; '72 TR6.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
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