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From: "Dave" <dave@ranteer.com>
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Subject: [6pack] windshield chrome clip - revisited
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I received a very nice reply from TRF b my chrome had separated to the point
that I needed a longer cover piece.
http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/tr6/DSCN0612.JPG

Dave-
Thanks for the email.
611437/200 is a 2" version of the clip.  Here's a link:
http://trf.zeni.net/webcatalog/specials8.1/26.php?s_wt=1920&s_ht=1080

thanks,

Albert
TRF

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Hey all!

I am about to replace the windscreen capping on my Six and am faced with
the
familiar but challenging task of trying to drill-out old rivets. I have to
confess,
the process has never been an easy or efficient one for me. Does anyone
know
a well-proven/smarter way to drill-out and remove old rivets?

Thanks for any insights....

Dave Friedlander
'74 Six

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I am removing the shafts to drill and tap for overdrive switches...
The manual says to unscrew the screw plugs that hold the springs and
balls, but my 76 does not have screwed plugs, they appear to be
interference fit plugs, see this pic...

http://tinyurl.com/oufsve6

So there is no way that I can see to get the plugs out.

I did remove one of the shafts and of course the ball fell into the
shaft tube and left the spring sticking into the tube.   I can get the
spring and ball back into what I think is the right position with a
screwdriver and seal puller, but haven't been able to get it back into
the hole to allow the shaft to pass under it.

So two questions, first, what's the best way to handle the other two
shafts and not make the same mistake...   and second, how do I get the
ball back in?

Any help appreciated

John North

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Go to the maintenance page at vtr - 
http://www.vtr.org/maintain-index.shtml and look at the end of 
"Rebuilding the Triumph TR Transmission Part 2".  It explains how to 
overhaul a top cover and drill one for overdrive switches.  For the late 
boxes you have to drill out the plugs.  You may be able to match the 
plugs at your local auto parts store or drill and tap them for plugs 
like the early covers.  Top covers are probably one of the most 
neglected transmission parts.
Larry Young

On 12/14/2013 2:56 PM, John North wrote:
> I am removing the shafts to drill and tap for overdrive switches...
> The manual says to unscrew the screw plugs that hold the springs and
> balls, but my 76 does not have screwed plugs, they appear to be
> interference fit plugs, see this pic...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/oufsve6
>
> So there is no way that I can see to get the plugs out.
>
> I did remove one of the shafts and of course the ball fell into the
> shaft tube and left the spring sticking into the tube.   I can get the
> spring and ball back into what I think is the right position with a
> screwdriver and seal puller, but haven't been able to get it back into
> the hole to allow the shaft to pass under it.
>
> So two questions, first, what's the best way to handle the other two
> shafts and not make the same mistake...   and second, how do I get the
> ball back in?
>
> Any help appreciated
>
> John North
>
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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 17:50:51 -0500
From: John North <johncnorth@gmail.com>
To: Larry Young <cartravel@pobox.com>
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Ok, I see that these plugs are NA at TRF, Moss and Vic Brit...   I
looked over the Mcaster Carr site, couldn't find what I need although
they have just about everything known to man.   Anybody got a lead on
where I can get them?

John North
1976 TR6

On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Larry Young <cartravel@pobox.com> wrote:
> Go to the maintenance page at vtr - http://www.vtr.org/maintain-index.shtml
> and look at the end of "Rebuilding the Triumph TR Transmission Part 2".  It
> explains how to overhaul a top cover and drill one for overdrive switches.
> For the late boxes you have to drill out the plugs.  You may be able to
> match the plugs at your local auto parts store or drill and tap them for
> plugs like the early covers.  Top covers are probably one of the most
> neglected transmission parts.
> Larry Young
>
>
> On 12/14/2013 2:56 PM, John North wrote:
>>
>> I am removing the shafts to drill and tap for overdrive switches...
>> The manual says to unscrew the screw plugs that hold the springs and
>> balls, but my 76 does not have screwed plugs, they appear to be
>> interference fit plugs, see this pic...
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/oufsve6
>>
>> So there is no way that I can see to get the plugs out.
>>
>> I did remove one of the shafts and of course the ball fell into the
>> shaft tube and left the spring sticking into the tube.   I can get the
>> spring and ball back into what I think is the right position with a
>> screwdriver and seal puller, but haven't been able to get it back into
>> the hole to allow the shaft to pass under it.
>>
>> So two questions, first, what's the best way to handle the other two
>> shafts and not make the same mistake...   and second, how do I get the
>> ball back in?
>>
>> Any help appreciated
>>
>> John North
>>
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>>
>> 6pack@autox.team.net
>>
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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 13:53:51 -0500
From: John North <johncnorth@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [6pack] Gear selector shaft detents
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I was able to get the loose ball back in the shaft using a dummy shaft
about 3" long with the end cut at a 45 degree angle.   I used 1/2" rod
from Home Depot.   I pushed it in from the back using the real shaft
while easing the ball back into the slot with a screwdriver from the
front.   This allowed me to get back to square one with all three
shafts in place and operating.

So then I extended the dummy shaft idea and made three about 5" long
and inserted them from the front as I withdrew the shafts.   These
kept the detent balls in their channel.   I shook out the two
interlock balls that prevent selecting more than one gear at a time as
I inserted the dummy shafts.

So now I have the top cover clear and can drill and tap...

John North
1976 TR6

On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Sally or Dick Taylor
<taylorturbo6@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi,John --- I drilled out these plugs and tapped out the holes using a 7/16"
> tap. (Don't recall the TPI) The thread depth isn't as deep as would normally
> be the case, due to the larger hole to begin with. But there's not much
> pressure being exerted on these socket head SET SCREWS, and I recall them
> being covered. It's been years, so forgive the lack of details. The downside
> of using the 7/16" set screws was they don't come in the short length
> necessary, and must be shortened to be flush with the top of the case. If I
> had to do this over today, I'd make new plugs rather than tap for set
> screws.  Not a chance of this, however, as there's a 5 speed taking it's
> place!
>
> Dick
>
>
> On Sunday, December 15, 2013 2:51 PM, John North <johncnorth@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Ok, I see that these plugs are NA at TRF, Moss and Vic Brit...  I
> looked over the Mcaster Carr site, couldn't find what I need although
> they have just about everything known to man.  Anybody got a lead on
> where I can get them?
>
> John North
> 1976 TR6
>
> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Larry Young <cartravel@pobox.com> wrote:
>> Go to the maintenance page at vtr -
>> http://www.vtr.org/maintain-index.shtml
>> and look at the end of "Rebuilding the Triumph TR Transmission Part 2".
>> It
>> explains how to overhaul a top cover and drill one for overdrive switches.
>> For the late boxes you have to drill out the plugs.  You may be able to
>> match the plugs at your local auto parts store or drill and tap them for
>> plugs like the early covers.  Top covers are probably one of the most
>> neglected transmission parts.
>> Larry Young
>>
>>
>> On 12/14/2013 2:56 PM, John North wrote:
>>>
>>> I am removing the shafts to drill and tap for overdrive switches...
>>> The manual says to unscrew the screw plugs that hold the springs and
>>> balls, but my 76 does not have screwed plugs, they appear to be
>>> interference fit plugs, see this pic...
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/oufsve6
>>>
>>> So there is no way that I can see to get the plugs out.
>>>
>>> I did remove one of the shafts and of course the ball fell into the
>>> shaft tube and left the spring sticking into the tube.  I can get the
>>> spring and ball back into what I think is the right position with a
>>> screwdriver and seal puller, but haven't been able to get it back into
>>> the hole to allow the shaft to pass under it.
>>>
>>> So two questions, first, what's the best way to handle the other two
>>> shafts and not make the same mistake...  and second, how do I get the
>>> ball back in?
>>>
>>> Any help appreciated
>>>
>>> John North
>>>
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You may have been able to drill&tap the holes without removing the rods,
depending on how much lead was on the tap.
Berry


-----Original Message-----
From: John North <johncnorth@gmail.com>
To: Triumph 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Dec 16, 2013 10:53 am
Subject: Re: [6pack] Gear selector shaft detents


I was able to get the loose ball back in the shaft using a dummy shaft
about 3" long with the end cut at a 45 degree angle.   I used 1/2" rod
from Home Depot.   I pushed it in from the back using the real shaft
while easing the ball back into the slot with a screwdriver from the
front.   This allowed me to get back to square one with all three
shafts in place and operating.

So then I extended the dummy shaft idea and made three about 5" long
and inserted them from the front as I withdrew the shafts.   These
kept the detent balls in their channel.   I shook out the two
interlock balls that prevent selecting more than one gear at a time as
I inserted the dummy shafts.

So now I have the top cover clear and can drill and tap...

John North
1976 TR6

On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Sally or Dick Taylor
<taylorturbo6@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi,John --- I drilled out these plugs and tapped out the holes using a
7/16"
> tap. (Don't recall the TPI) The thread depth isn't as deep as would
normally
> be the case, due to the larger hole to begin with. But there's not much
> pressure being exerted on these socket head SET SCREWS, and I recall them
> being covered. It's been years, so forgive the lack of details. The
downside
> of using the 7/16" set screws was they don't come in the short length
> necessary, and must be shortened to be flush with the top of the case. If I
> had to do this over today, I'd make new plugs rather than tap for set
> screws.  Not a chance of this, however, as there's a 5 speed taking it's
> place!
>
> Dick
>
>
> On Sunday, December 15, 2013 2:51 PM, John North <johncnorth@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Ok, I see that these plugs are NA at TRF, Moss and Vic Brit...  I
> looked over the Mcaster Carr site, couldn't find what I need although
> they have just about everything known to man.  Anybody got a lead on
> where I can get them?
>
> John North
> 1976 TR6
>
> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Larry Young <cartravel@pobox.com> wrote:
>> Go to the maintenance page at vtr -
>> http://www.vtr.org/maintain-index.shtml
>> and look at the end of "Rebuilding the Triumph TR Transmission Part 2".
>> It
>> explains how to overhaul a top cover and drill one for overdrive switches.
>> For the late boxes you have to drill out the plugs.  You may be able to
>> match the plugs at your local auto parts store or drill and tap them for
>> plugs like the early covers.  Top covers are probably one of the most
>> neglected transmission parts.
>> Larry Young
>>
>>
>> On 12/14/2013 2:56 PM, John North wrote:
>>>
>>> I am removing the shafts to drill and tap for overdrive switches...
>>> The manual says to unscrew the screw plugs that hold the springs and
>>> balls, but my 76 does not have screwed plugs, they appear to be
>>> interference fit plugs, see this pic...
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/oufsve6
>>>
>>> So there is no way that I can see to get the plugs out.
>>>
>>> I did remove one of the shafts and of course the ball fell into the
>>> shaft tube and left the spring sticking into the tube.  I can get the
>>> spring and ball back into what I think is the right position with a
>>> screwdriver and seal puller, but haven't been able to get it back into
>>> the hole to allow the shaft to pass under it.
>>>
>>> So two questions, first, what's the best way to handle the other two
>>> shafts and not make the same mistake...  and second, how do I get the
>>> ball back in?
>>>
>>> Any help appreciated
>>>
>>> John North
>>>
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>>>
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A mechanic/restoration guy taught me to use the exact sized drill bit for the size of rivet. Can't recall the size but essentially it is big enough to cut some of the side wall of the rivet. Worked every time for me. Of course the is always a stubborn rivet that requires a little angle drilling. But not much. 
Hope this helps some. Practice and you'll find the correct drill hit size. 


bSent from my Atari 2600b

> On Dec 11, 2013, at 2:36 PM, "David Friedlander" <forzion7@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey all!
> 
> I am about to replace the windscreen capping on my Six and am faced with
> the
> familiar but challenging task of trying to drill-out old rivets. I have to
> confess,
> the process has never been an easy or efficient one for me. Does anyone
> know
> a well-proven/smarter way to drill-out and remove old rivets?
> 
> Thanks for any insights....
> 
> Dave Friedlander
> '74 Six
> 
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Thanks, James, and all those who responded, on and off list.
I've had a number of recommendations, from drilling to Dremel
tool suggestions. God knows, the windscreen cap offers plenty
of opportunity to practice using every method recommended to
me! I'll let the list know which method/drill size worked best.

Cheers all and Merry Christmas!!

Dave Friedlander
'74 Six
Maine


On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 10:18 PM, James_ <jattr6@hotmail.com> wrote:

> A mechanic/restoration guy taught me to use the exact sized drill bit for
> the size of rivet. Can't recall the size but essentially it is big enough
> to cut some of the side wall of the rivet. Worked every time for me. Of
> course the is always a stubborn rivet that requires a little angle
> drilling. But not much.
> Hope this helps some. Practice and you'll find the correct drill hit size.
>
>
> Sent from my Atari 2600
>
> > On Dec 11, 2013, at 2:36 PM, "David Friedlander" <forzion7@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey all!
> >
> > I am about to replace the windscreen capping on my Six and am faced with
> > the
> > familiar but challenging task of trying to drill-out old rivets. I have
> to
> > confess,
> > the process has never been an easy or efficient one for me. Does anyone
> > know
> > a well-proven/smarter way to drill-out and remove old rivets?
> >
> > Thanks for any insights....
> >
> > Dave Friedlander
> > '74 Six

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hi, all.

my son is in Alabama; we are trying to find a british car event to attend
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we were going to go to the pensacola show but he has a conflict with work.
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Dave 
 
Can you give a time frame? There are some good ones like the Gathering
in North Carolinia, which has set a date yet. Also how far would you like to
travel?
 
Dale


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hi, all.

my son is in Alabama; we are trying to
find a british car event to attend
together this spring in the southeast.

we
were going to go to the pensacola show but he has a conflict with work.
any
recommendations?

thanks!

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he is leaving for germany (poor guy b hebs in management at the mercedes
plant in alabama where he gets a cut rate deal on a lease and then, I just
pity him b he has to turn it in for a new one when it hits 8000 miles).  so
he will be leaving last weekend in april, and be gone for 6 to 8 weeks.

Ibd prefer not more than about 5 hours from Birmingham.



From: Dale
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To: Dave ; Triumph 6 Pack ; triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] events this spring

Dave

Can you give a time frame? There are some good ones like the Gathering in
North Carolinia, which has set a date yet. Also how far would you like to
travel?

Dale

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From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net  Mon Dec 23 18:42:14 2013
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"The Gathering" is in Dobson, NC. Unfortunately 7 hours from Birmingham. The
web site is www.triumphclub.org, and it's typically the 3rd Saturday in April,
normally 200+ cars. If you come for the weekend there is a Blue Ridge tour on
Friday afternoon and a really fun autocross on Sunday morning.



Sloane :)

69-Six, 72-Spit


> From: dave@ranteer.com
> To: 6pack@autox.team.net; triumphs@autox.team.net
> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 11:38:32 -0600
> Subject: Re: [6pack] events this spring
>
> he is leaving for germany (poor guy b hebs in management at the mercedes
> plant in alabama where he gets a cut rate deal on a lease and then, I just
> pity him b he has to turn it in for a new one when it hits 8000 miles). so
> he will be leaving last weekend in april, and be gone for 6 to 8 weeks.
>
> Ibd prefer not more than about 5 hours from Birmingham.

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We bought our TR6 just before Christmas in 2001.  Webve owned it now for 12
years.  Still my favorite car!!!!

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From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net  Fri Dec 27 18:43:33 2013
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Hi,

If you have a used late-style TR6 head gasket laying around, I need a 
favor. I need to know the thickness of the fire ring (after being 
crushed).

I had a TR6 block decked to true it and they took off .006", but now the 
recesses measure about .012" - I think I need to have the recesses re-cut, 
but I want to know how much crush we can get away with.

I know the answer, but I want an actual measurement from a used head 
gasket.

In a total lapse of good judgement, I actually threw out the one I took 
off this engine. GO figure. Probably the first time I ever cleaned up a 
job before it was done.

:-)

Thanks in advance.

rml
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From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net  Fri Dec 27 19:23:42 2013
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From: David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 21:21:48 -0500
To: "Robert M. Lang" <lang@isis.mit.edu>
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Bob;

I rebuilt my the engine on my 74-1/2 this fall (engine overheat) and still
have the old gasket. The fire rings on my used gasket varies in thickness
across the cylinders from 0.065 to 0.072". I had my head decked and they
removed 0.009. A new Payen gasket worked fine. I never gave a second
thought to the fire ring thickness and would suspect you have nothing to
worry about.

Cheers and Happy New Year!!

Dave Friedlander



On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Robert M. Lang <lang@isis.mit.edu> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> If you have a used late-style TR6 head gasket laying around, I need a
> favor. I need to know the thickness of the fire ring (after being crushed).
>
> I had a TR6 block decked to true it and they took off .006", but now the
> recesses measure about .012" - I think I need to have the recesses re-cut,
> but I want to know how much crush we can get away with.
>
> I know the answer, but I want an actual measurement from a used head
> gasket.
>
> In a total lapse of good judgement, I actually threw out the one I took
> off this engine. GO figure. Probably the first time I ever cleaned up a job
> before it was done.
>
> :-)
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> rml
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> Bob Lang              Triumph TR6!!            |  This space for rent
> Former NER Solo Chair                          |
> Voice:617-253-7438                             |  Cell: 339-927-4489
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