From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 12 17:13:21 2015 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C59A258447E for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2015 17:13:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC4S16.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s16.hotmail.com [65.55.111.155]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78B925802F1 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Mon, 12 Jan 2015 17:11:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU179-W90 ([65.55.111.136]) by BLU004-OMC4S16.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Mon, 12 Jan 2015 16:16:08 -0800 From: James_ To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 00:16:08 +0000 FILETIME=[212B6A00:01D02EC6] Subject: [6pack] Hardtop Seals - Advice Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net I bought a factory hardtop and need advice on whether or not some side seals are needed. TRF shows part number GP22 no the sides: http://trf.zeni.net/TR6greenbook/index.php?zoom=1&page=92#GP43&s_wt=1440&s_ht =900 And I see on this restoration - the sides are missing.http://www.74tr6.com/pics/hardtop114.jpg Mine is set up the same way. Meaning, it only has the REAR seal.Do the TFR side seals get glued to the sides? On a side note, the PO of the top replaced the vents with lights. kinda cool. I wonder how on earth theylocated what appears to be an exact fit. Thanks, James _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 12 17:45:02 2015 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42EF2584515 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2015 17:45:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f43.google.com (mail-wg0-f43.google.com [74.125.82.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF0D25802F1 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Mon, 12 Jan 2015 17:44:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wg0-f43.google.com with SMTP id k14so121352wgh.2 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Mon, 12 Jan 2015 16:48:54 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=HtUNyrPApPgRIyy6f+0DNMoXSs4ndHudjebMh/55BZU=; b=fQs7UjYVsvS9F4ADt36a9wxb3Yr6kiKRpzU8ZyuPNZlm+kWlxB5c05vR4jRUB9CPkc q4mD278mkQ9YzeFMo2JH1nlKOElk9SpZpC/DvjPb/mu7xZvBAVGWVfONa2nPS6XYFawf SNPHtYzBuvqi/3clINMURhia4wooZLcxPJ+7pp2r+2ZWsWRuyBKeiopyy307r/jLWC7f 9Gu8wHCmHBx9AGzB53ewPdF1EXiW6oRn0m7YIMxHhRpwEpYeRGCoaoxejNpQyBn6A/lq Ds972L55UJrTL3onRMlZxouC6PCbzRazQIz2+UlZu0YV224Kbtkwd3IuuQ8u3isu9qGT Aicw== wz5mr136524wjc.98.1421110134187; Mon, 12 Jan 2015 16:48:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.188.81 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Jan 2015 16:48:54 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 19:48:54 -0500 From: alan salvatore To: James_ Cc: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] Hardtop Seals - Advice Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net The side seals do get glued on. AL On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 7:16 PM, James_ wrote: > I bought a factory hardtop and need advice on whether or not some side > seals > are needed. > TRF shows part number GP22 no the sides: > > http://trf.zeni.net/TR6greenbook/index.php?zoom=1&page=92#GP43&s_wt=1440&s_ht > =900 > And I see on this restoration - the sides are > missing.http://www.74tr6.com/pics/hardtop114.jpg > Mine is set up the same way. Meaning, it only has the REAR seal.Do the TFR > side seals get glued to the sides? > On a side note, the PO of the top replaced the vents with lights. kinda > cool. > I wonder how on earth theylocated what appears to be an exact fit. > Thanks, > James > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/alansalvy@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 13 00:01:49 2015 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3072425846E5 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 00:01:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC4S20.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s20.hotmail.com [65.55.111.159]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CCD62580722 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 00:01:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU406-EAS153 ([65.55.111.137]) by BLU004-OMC4S20.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Mon, 12 Jan 2015 23:05:59 -0800 From: James_ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 23:05:56 -0800 To: 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net> FILETIME=[620928D0:01D02EFF] Subject: [6pack] Painting advice Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net I need a fresh paint job. Single stage or base coat/clear coat? I found a local guy who works on all sorts of classic cars. He wants to do a single stage urethane and needs several months to sand, a few rust repairs and paint. $7500 Alternatively... My neighbor saw a tr4 getting painting at ... Wait for it...Maaco. So I paid them a visit. They have loads of classics and newer cars they are painting, restoring, rust repair etc. It was actually quite impressive. Most finished products had been delivered but a couple cars were still there. On one such car I could see some dust specks in the paint but it was an impressive job overall. Now, Maaco has always been synonymous with ... Well ... Crappy work. Additionally, they suggest clear coat/base coat. So what do folks think about which paint method and will Maaco's work really hold up and be good? Guess it is just paint and the important bit is the prep work. And gets down to the shop. One Maaco may be rubbish while the one I visited my have great Craftsmen. _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 13 00:20:35 2015 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5412584786 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 00:20:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f171.google.com (mail-ob0-f171.google.com [209.85.214.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15C22580496 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 00:20:30 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ob0-f171.google.com with SMTP id uz6so1218704obc.2 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Mon, 12 Jan 2015 23:24:47 -0800 (PST) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=x3dtQZ4s318/KqEdWOghrSOuj7Y4dQaS1TfHrLlBYXM=; b=Jemz8TGR1qg04+0ZXjHroD+O8wifO6e/EzpJKSevZUDPryjDGJ5ZC7B5Q7bO1NeANG LOycC/mOuHr1Fo3PYIAcaafMtlu+rvbGAGptcbwqVP8QzVgn9FfIYjjj2YjT23voEZbK OpxihCFY6yTAFdLBkiDL8RfNFHQ0zVDRKy/bTWl51374wv94fj9PLQ2SNcBpHj9Pus6I 59DERpaB/s2SREbYrTZKa6bbZ4W7vYNbQCOOJHvV52Ro5/9kO75uik7tonIcQAHkhWf9 r/3A3NyOt7Xk7uZgpROr9sOM4LmzDfzhTiCA+PbTPkWjqPjylzzu5i37gybqA4jYsQO+ KJRA== y206mr18595025oif.123.1421133887010; Mon, 12 Jan 2015 23:24:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.76.172.41 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Jan 2015 23:24:46 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 23:24:46 -0800 From: Tom Lofgren To: James_ Cc: 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] Painting advice Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net James, My son and I are just finishing repainting a 240Z in base coat/clear coat. We used Dupont Chromabase, which is a high quality paint with Nason (lower cost Dupont product) primers underneath. Just the material cost was about $1500. You didn't say how much Maaco was going to charge you, but I would be asking lots of questions if it's not at least a couple thousand. I have heard stories about good shops that have the "cheap" shop names, and yours could be one of them. They are indeed all different. Good luck! Tom On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 11:05 PM, James_ wrote: > I need a fresh paint job. > > Single stage or base coat/clear coat? > > I found a local guy who works on all sorts of classic cars. He wants to do > a > single stage urethane and needs several months to sand, a few rust repairs > and > paint. > $7500 > Alternatively... > > My neighbor saw a tr4 getting painting at ... Wait for it...Maaco. > So I paid them a visit. They have loads of classics and newer cars they are > painting, restoring, rust repair etc. It was actually quite impressive. > Most > finished products had been delivered but a couple cars were still there. On > one such car I could see some dust specks in the paint but it was an > impressive job overall. > Now, Maaco has always been synonymous with ... Well ... Crappy work. > Additionally, they suggest clear coat/base coat. > > So what do folks think about which paint method and will Maaco's work > really > hold up and be good? Guess it is just paint and the important bit is the > prep > work. And gets down to the shop. One Maaco may be rubbish while the one I > visited my have great > Craftsmen. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tom.lofgren@stanfordalumni.org _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 13 06:27:24 2015 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D852584956 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 06:27:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4436E2584849 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 06:25:20 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id em10so3883935wid.5 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 05:29:36 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=epYJYeTOv3jq5BJ6M6SfortOsymaS3cnNN+nuEe2pKU=; b=qynGqiEfytCEOxRzqPK72BFdA+JeMik15LJnhn8rl7lmI4RQKORDaD2P/0ShhIvG/3 CTzyyOLAN5KiauTxyFGAaoD6/8LOGM8Hv2oMYK5/FBpT1cOWE6VRN7p4KtMQZJV9L7J0 f5XIytSf+n9ZzPnC7RAgyjIDrrWwb5sRypYJk4RMdxvWB4lvW4X8tdydIvnI8Fct79S2 mZc/SpqKOCNMDHu5C5CjezrfMwxOjxwWKKFkrQP5eADFcYy7ONbhYW9AlhDq7X+GRglB e+B9GbV1HGvloYvgirLAFVh7+qp99wD+B7DNHKZF07qp4W77hxmuS0X9cioh2oYFInSu auSA== pe10mr40804061wic.48.1421155776148; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 05:29:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.188.81 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 05:29:36 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 08:29:36 -0500 From: alan salvatore To: Tom Lofgren Cc: 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] Painting advice Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net There's paint and then there's paint. One place is going to paint the car for $400-700. The other place just the materials are $1000-1500. Maaco is by definition a fast production facility. They don't take off trim, not fussy about masking off parts. You ever open up a door and see painted door lock, painted hood springs? Most macco jobs I've seen after a year or two have lost quite a bit of luster. ( quality of paint ?) They did look pretty good after just being painted. You also have to like orange peal as they don't do color sanding. I use a single stage with a clearcoat cocktail in the final coat; as it duplicates the original enamel the best to me. Its not any cheaper than a basecoat/clear. So there can be quite a difference in the quality of materials. There's a big difference between apples and oranges. Just saying. Al On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 2:24 AM, Tom Lofgren wrote: > James, > > My son and I are just finishing repainting a 240Z in base coat/clear coat. > We used Dupont Chromabase, which is a high quality paint with Nason (lower > cost Dupont product) primers underneath. Just the material cost was about > $1500. You didn't say how much Maaco was going to charge you, but I would > be asking lots of questions if it's not at least a couple thousand. > > I have heard stories about good shops that have the "cheap" shop names, and > yours could be one of them. They are indeed all different. > > Good luck! > Tom > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 11:05 PM, James_ wrote: > > > I need a fresh paint job. > > > > Single stage or base coat/clear coat? > > > > I found a local guy who works on all sorts of classic cars. He wants to > do > > a > > single stage urethane and needs several months to sand, a few rust > repairs > > and > > paint. > > $7500 > > Alternatively... > > > > My neighbor saw a tr4 getting painting at ... Wait for it...Maaco. > > So I paid them a visit. They have loads of classics and newer cars they > are > > painting, restoring, rust repair etc. It was actually quite impressive. > > Most > > finished products had been delivered but a couple cars were still there. > On > > one such car I could see some dust specks in the paint but it was an > > impressive job overall. > > Now, Maaco has always been synonymous with ... Well ... Crappy work. > > Additionally, they suggest clear coat/base coat. > > > > So what do folks think about which paint method and will Maaco's work > > really > > hold up and be good? Guess it is just paint and the important bit is the > > prep > > work. And gets down to the shop. One Maaco may be rubbish while the one I > > visited my have great > > Craftsmen. > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > 6pack@autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tom.lofgren@stanfordalumni.org > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/alansalvy@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 13 06:35:05 2015 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65B125849F1 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 06:35:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from COL004-OMC4S15.hotmail.com (col004-omc4s15.hotmail.com [65.55.34.217]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E602B25806FB for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 06:35:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from COL402-EAS251 ([65.55.34.199]) by COL004-OMC4S15.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Tue, 13 Jan 2015 05:39:17 -0800 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 08:39:00 -0500 From: Gene Holtzclaw To: alan salvatore FILETIME=[53DF31A0:01D02F36] Cc: 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] Painting advice Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net My father owned a body shop when I was very young, and up until my mid 20s. What Al is saying is spot on. If you want cheap shine, get a cheap paint job. In my opinion, a cheap paint job cheapens the car. To properly paint a car, no paint lines in the door jambs, no over spray where it shouldn't be, the car about has to be disassembled. We actually painted hoods, doors, deck lids, etc, hanging from wire, then put back on the car. It pretty much always holds true thar you pretty much get out of it what you put into it. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID alan salvatore wrote: There's paint and then there's paint. One place is going to paint the car for $400-700. The other place just the materials are $1000-1500. Maaco is by definition a fast production facility. They don't take off trim, not fussy about masking off parts. You ever open up a door and see painted door lock, painted hood springs? Most macco jobs I've seen after a year or two have lost quite a bit of luster. ( quality of paint ?) They did look pretty good after just being painted. You also have to like orange peal as they don't do color sanding. I use a single stage with a clearcoat cocktail in the final coat; as it duplicates the original enamel the best to me. Its not any cheaper than a basecoat/clear. So there can be quite a difference in the quality of materials. There's a big difference between apples and oranges. Just saying. Al On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 2:24 AM, Tom Lofgren wrote: > James, > > My son and I are just finishing repainting a 240Z in base coat/clear coat. > We used Dupont Chromabase, which is a high quality paint with Nason (lower > cost Dupont product) primers underneath. Just the material cost was about > $1500. You didn't say how much Maaco was going to charge you, but I would > be asking lots of questions if it's not at least a couple thousand. > > I have heard stories about good shops that have the "cheap" shop names, and > yours could be one of them. They are indeed all different. > > Good luck! > Tom > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 11:05 PM, James_ wrote: > > > I need a fresh paint job. > > > > Single stage or base coat/clear coat? > > > > I found a local guy who works on all sorts of classic cars. He wants to > do > > a > > single stage urethane and needs several months to sand, a few rust > repairs > > and > > paint. > > $7500 > > Alternatively... > > > > My neighbor saw a tr4 getting painting at ... Wait for it...Maaco. > > So I paid them a visit. They have loads of classics and newer cars they > are > > painting, restoring, rust repair etc. It was actually quite impressive. > > Most > > finished products had been delivered but a couple cars were still there. > On > > one such car I could see some dust specks in the paint but it was an > > impressive job overall. > > Now, Maaco has always been synonymous with ... Well ... Crappy work. > > Additionally, they suggest clear coat/base coat. > > > > So what do folks think about which paint method and will Maaco's work > > really > > hold up and be good? Guess it is just paint and the important bit is the > > prep > > work. And gets down to the shop. One Maaco may be rubbish while the one I > > visited my have great > > Craftsmen. > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > 6pack@autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tom.lofgren@stanfordalumni.org > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/alansalvy@gmail.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/motrv8d@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 13 10:39:16 2015 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1FF2585165 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 10:39:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC4S7.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s7.hotmail.com [65.55.111.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1559258502C for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 10:39:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU406-EAS373 ([65.55.111.137]) by BLU004-OMC4S7.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Tue, 13 Jan 2015 09:43:26 -0800 References: From: James_ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 09:43:23 -0800 To: 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net> FILETIME=[6F5EDDA0:01D02F58] Subject: Re: [6pack] Painting advice Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Yes. I totally agree...as I mentioned "The important bit is the prep work. " Maaco goes down to metal as needed and wants to see what is under the old paint. So that was good to see. I was mainly interested in opinions about single stage vs base/clear. I forgot to mention that I would be removing everything - including the WS frame and deliver a rolling tub. I do not want the tape around gaskets and door locks. That is crappy. I haven't gotten a quote from Maaco yet. They are looking over the car on Thursday. Maaco sands between primer, base, and again after clear and then buffs glossy. They have a booth and then a heated booth. Which is nice. Some places don't have heated booth ovens. I do want this to last many years and be professional looking. But good to know they may be using cheaper paint. Or something that causes the luster to dull after a few years. bSent from my Atari 2600b > On Jan 13, 2015, at 5:29 AM, "alan salvatore" wrote: > > There's paint and then there's paint. One place is going to paint the car for $400-700. > The other place just the materials are $1000-1500. > Maaco is by definition a fast production facility. They don't take off trim, not fussy about masking off parts. > You ever open up a door and see painted door lock, painted hood springs? > Most macco jobs I've seen after a year or two have lost quite a bit of luster. ( quality of paint ?) > They did look pretty good after just being painted. > You also have to like orange peal as they don't do color sanding. > > I use a single stage with a clearcoat cocktail in the final coat; as it duplicates the original enamel the best to me. > Its not any cheaper than a basecoat/clear. So there can be quite a difference in the quality of materials. > There's a big difference between apples and oranges. > > Just saying. > > Al > >> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 2:24 AM, Tom Lofgren wrote: >> James, >> >> My son and I are just finishing repainting a 240Z in base coat/clear coat. >> We used Dupont Chromabase, which is a high quality paint with Nason (lower >> cost Dupont product) primers underneath. Just the material cost was about >> $1500. You didn't say how much Maaco was going to charge you, but I would >> be asking lots of questions if it's not at least a couple thousand. >> >> I have heard stories about good shops that have the "cheap" shop names, and >> yours could be one of them. They are indeed all different. >> >> Good luck! >> Tom >> >> On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 11:05 PM, James_ wrote: >> >> > I need a fresh paint job. >> > >> > Single stage or base coat/clear coat? >> > >> > I found a local guy who works on all sorts of classic cars. He wants to do >> > a >> > single stage urethane and needs several months to sand, a few rust repairs >> > and >> > paint. >> > $7500 >> > Alternatively... >> > >> > My neighbor saw a tr4 getting painting at ... Wait for it...Maaco. >> > So I paid them a visit. They have loads of classics and newer cars they are >> > painting, restoring, rust repair etc. It was actually quite impressive. >> > Most >> > finished products had been delivered but a couple cars were still there. On >> > one such car I could see some dust specks in the paint but it was an >> > impressive job overall. >> > Now, Maaco has always been synonymous with ... Well ... Crappy work. >> > Additionally, they suggest clear coat/base coat. >> > >> > So what do folks think about which paint method and will Maaco's work >> > really >> > hold up and be good? Guess it is just paint and the important bit is the >> > prep >> > work. And gets down to the shop. One Maaco may be rubbish while the one I >> > visited my have great >> > Craftsmen. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Suggested annual donation $12.96 >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > >> > 6pack@autox.team.net >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >> > >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tom.lofgren@stanfordalumni.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.96 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> 6pack@autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/alansalvy@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 13 11:14:50 2015 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFAD12585225 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 11:14:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from SNT004-OMC4S29.hotmail.com (snt004-omc4s29.hotmail.com [65.55.90.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B8E25850AC for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 11:14:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT406-EAS299 ([65.55.90.199]) by SNT004-OMC4S29.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Tue, 13 Jan 2015 10:19:02 -0800 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 13:18:44 -0500 From: Gene Holtzclaw To: James_ FILETIME=[686C5AE0:01D02F5D] Cc: 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] Painting advice Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net If you do that, and talk to them about a higher grade paint, I wholeheartedly believe in base clear Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID James_ wrote: Yes. I totally agree...as I mentioned "The important bit is the prep work. " Maaco goes down to metal as needed and wants to see what is under the old paint. So that was good to see. I was mainly interested in opinions about single stage vs base/clear. I forgot to mention that I would be removing everything - including the WS frame and deliver a rolling tub. I do not want the tape around gaskets and door locks. That is crappy. I haven't gotten a quote from Maaco yet. They are looking over the car on Thursday. Maaco sands between primer, base, and again after clear and then buffs glossy. They have a booth and then a heated booth. Which is nice. Some places don't have heated booth ovens. I do want this to last many years and be professional looking. But good to know they may be using cheaper paint. Or something that causes the luster to dull after a few years. bSent from my Atari 2600b > On Jan 13, 2015, at 5:29 AM, "alan salvatore" wrote: > > There's paint and then there's paint. One place is going to paint the car for $400-700. > The other place just the materials are $1000-1500. > Maaco is by definition a fast production facility. They don't take off trim, not fussy about masking off parts. > You ever open up a door and see painted door lock, painted hood springs? > Most macco jobs I've seen after a year or two have lost quite a bit of luster. ( quality of paint ?) > They did look pretty good after just being painted. > You also have to like orange peal as they don't do color sanding. > > I use a single stage with a clearcoat cocktail in the final coat; as it duplicates the original enamel the best to me. > Its not any cheaper than a basecoat/clear. So there can be quite a difference in the quality of materials. > There's a big difference between apples and oranges. > > Just saying. > > Al > >> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 2:24 AM, Tom Lofgren wrote: >> James, >> >> My son and I are just finishing repainting a 240Z in base coat/clear coat. >> We used Dupont Chromabase, which is a high quality paint with Nason (lower >> cost Dupont product) primers underneath. Just the material cost was about >> $1500. You didn't say how much Maaco was going to charge you, but I would >> be asking lots of questions if it's not at least a couple thousand. >> >> I have heard stories about good shops that have the "cheap" shop names, and >> yours could be one of them. They are indeed all different. >> >> Good luck! >> Tom >> >> On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 11:05 PM, James_ wrote: >> >> > I need a fresh paint job. >> > >> > Single stage or base coat/clear coat? >> > >> > I found a local guy who works on all sorts of classic cars. He wants to do >> > a >> > single stage urethane and needs several months to sand, a few rust repairs >> > and >> > paint. >> > $7500 >> > Alternatively... >> > >> > My neighbor saw a tr4 getting painting at ... Wait for it...Maaco. >> > So I paid them a visit. They have loads of classics and newer cars they are >> > painting, restoring, rust repair etc. It was actually quite impressive. >> > Most >> > finished products had been delivered but a couple cars were still there. On >> > one such car I could see some dust specks in the paint but it was an >> > impressive job overall. >> > Now, Maaco has always been synonymous with ... Well ... Crappy work. >> > Additionally, they suggest clear coat/base coat. >> > >> > So what do folks think about which paint method and will Maaco's work >> > really >> > hold up and be good? Guess it is just paint and the important bit is the >> > prep >> > work. And gets down to the shop. One Maaco may be rubbish while the one I >> > visited my have great >> > Craftsmen. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Suggested annual donation $12.96 >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > >> > 6pack@autox.team.net >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >> > >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tom.lofgren@stanfordalumni.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.96 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> 6pack@autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/alansalvy@gmail.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/motrv8d@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 13 12:44:35 2015 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53CE825849F3 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 12:44:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m06.mx.aol.com (omr-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F251258488B for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 12:42:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-mae02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mae02.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.142]) by omr-m06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B7823700000A8 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 14:47:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.0.0.7] (c-75-67-176-163.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [75.67.176.163]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mae02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 4405338000088 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 14:47:03 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Greene Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 14:47:03 -0500 To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1421178423; bh=QS6BladHfonWNdANlmafIgkOeI5cLkWtkEiH19PPYXI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=kgGAO5dmUXHOF0eXYB5qXZ3eDvXJB+asrmFhG+DtdN8tcefRGfnzPgEDpmlrHNB2V ega4+QJ+j6OwMiFe11i7R8gnJ4TNcVFE6621b5Jmqyfml9D06BINCJuUiFQAOTX0we 38HT5MjXF0Gxac5iSgOhi0v9WzBOXtLRFcjugnGQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afe8e54b5763711c7 Subject: Re: [6pack] Painting advise Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Here is my exp w MAACO. They have a bad rap because kids go in there with a dented/rusted POS. They want the ""299.00" Special. When the MAACO team recommends fixing & doing the job right it goes over the "299.00" Special price & the kid says "nah just paint over it". After, when it looks like crap & the kids friends ask "who painted that POS". The kid says "MAACO" but never says "they wanted to do it right but I was too cheap/poor". Thus the bad rap. I had my 1976 TR6 painted by my local MAACO. But I did all the body work & primer. I also removed all trim and any other parts that would need masking. Delivered to them on a flatbed. They recommended an Higher end paint with a single stage clear coat. I went with the better paint. And told them to lay it on heavy as I planned to color sand it. I also had them paint it the same color so it did not have to be jammed or painted under the Bonnet & boot. They had the car done in about 4 days. When I picked it up, I found a couple of runs in the paint. Left it another day so they could fix the runs. The car came out GREAT! In fact it looked so good I never did color sand it. I did this about 14 years & it looked great up to the day I sold it You gotta remember the Macco's works in crews & the guy that paints Prob paints more cars in a week than a local body shop does in 3 months. They also have the best of equipment & ovens to cure it right. IMO if you bring them a nice car & let them know you care about it. They enjoy working on a nice car for a change. Much more rewarding than painting kids POS's all day. Your results may vary. But that's how it went for me with 2 cars I had MAACO do. NFI Bob G. _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 15 16:12:03 2015 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A540A25847EA for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 16:12:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC4S10.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s10.hotmail.com [65.55.111.149]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8FE625802F8 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 16:11:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU406-EAS151 ([65.55.111.135]) by BLU004-OMC4S10.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Thu, 15 Jan 2015 15:16:14 -0800 From: James_ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 15:16:12 -0800 To: 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net> FILETIME=[41BF64B0:01D03119] Subject: [6pack] Zenith Carbs: should I save from the crusher? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net >From time to time I visit auto salvage yards. The ones out west only keep cars for 30-90 days. Then they are crushed! Back east the yards save vehicles a long time. So I never felt pressured to grab parts. Now I loose sleep knowing that parts are being destroyed. I don't need the parts but maybe others do. Now I didn't really want to be in the business of being a parts warehouse, but maybe I do start investing in used parts. For example I just found out a 1972 Jag got crushed that had perfect Zenith carbs on it. Ugh! I found another Jag (1974) and thinking it is my duty to start saving parts. Just wanting a reality check...should I start investing in saving things like carbs? It would probably cost me a bit but if I broke even and not stuck with the parts - I am ok with that. Just need to pick and choose what parts. I think a good set of carbs would be good to save. Others agree??? They are no longer made but maybe people just switch to Webers anyway. bSent from my Atari 2600b _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 15 16:56:28 2015 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3AFC25848E4 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 16:56:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f179.google.com (unknown [209.85.213.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC9E25847EA for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 16:46:37 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ig0-f179.google.com with SMTP id l13so758372iga.0 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 15:50:45 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=d/t8UxkSztWs7x8q4r123Y0RXcgji4/UfaGy0MNAOa0=; b=llaUG1jZTVIiPsBRFwgD+jDUzZbax9CoxKxOEw5bBcgQ2G55GDfJZiYc4z5hooy2ZG a9KqmwJJ9NzTNtDGpX/r10mfxhLDmxeY6KUhIxQHamvsCmk3zWl/QSR8X0YZqdWYq9yY Yxews463l9wQ7uZq3IDYO48WsC/WvS6CQIIt3VFx7iq6JF7CqCh5ldz/LF4SA57QKKzG BG1POW5AONk+tZyQgkOAjc9oYu6eucFRMU0sFK3Wwstn0XuqTSucoa2epwnARPj3Fq7g id19EGoWdB3KjG1ywzuCrMa1BTfxAGilVflJ5hed+41q6Z9840fQv01ek2IQupNILMnS Ovig== Thu, 15 Jan 2015 15:50:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.25.200 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 15:50:13 -0800 (PST) References: From: David Friedlander Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 18:50:13 -0500 To: James_ Cc: 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] Zenith Carbs: should I save from the crusher? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net I agree, James... Seems like if you had the space and time, you could easily become a resource of key and critical parts as the pool of available goods diminishes or goes extinct. Perhaps you could start with carbs but I'm sure other parts would also come to mind: Dash instruments, various engines/trannys/ODs and their parts, possibly even body sheet metal if they're rust free... Many possibilities here... Dave '74 Six '59 3A On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 6:16 PM, James_ wrote: > From time to time I visit auto salvage yards. The ones out west only keep > cars for 30-90 days. Then they are crushed! Back east the yards save > vehicles a long time. So I never felt pressured to grab parts. > Now I loose sleep knowing that parts are being destroyed. I don't need the > parts but maybe others do. Now I didn't really want to be in the business > of being a parts warehouse, but maybe I do start investing in used parts. > For example I just found out a 1972 Jag got crushed that had perfect Zenith > carbs on it. Ugh! I found another Jag (1974) and thinking it is my duty to > start saving parts. > Just wanting a reality check...should I start investing in saving things > like carbs? It would probably cost me a bit but if I broke even and not > stuck with the parts - I am ok with that. Just need to pick and choose what > parts. > I think a good set of carbs would be good to save. > Others agree??? They are no longer made but maybe people just switch to > Webers anyway. > > > b Sent from my Atari 2600b > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/forzion7@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 15 17:41:08 2015 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23C62584917 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 17:41:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC4S23.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s23.hotmail.com [65.55.111.162]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90FF2580B7B for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 17:41:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU406-EAS429 ([65.55.111.135]) by BLU004-OMC4S23.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Thu, 15 Jan 2015 16:45:21 -0800 References: From: James_ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 16:45:19 -0800 To: 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net> FILETIME=[B4DBF790:01D03125] Subject: Re: [6pack] Zenith Carbs: should I save from the crusher? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for the encouragement. It seems like such a waste for parts to be crushed! I am so sad I missed who knows how many cars and the recent carbs off a 72 jag. But like I said I found a 74 jag and a early 70's TR7 both with carbs. I'll invested in these and clean them up. I have been collecting things in the past when I would see them. EGR valves, EGR Counters. I did see two carbon canisters. They can easily be re-charcoal-ed but maybe folks need those. Maybe head rests too. The frame that is. Ok. I'm on a crusade! Feel free to ask me about items to look for. I am super glad to help and not doing this to make a profit. Just trying to give back. :-) Cheers _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 16 18:03:58 2015 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C78025803C7 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 18:03:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC4S16.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s16.hotmail.com [65.55.111.155]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99FF025800C6 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 18:03:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU406-EAS43 ([65.55.111.135]) by BLU004-OMC4S16.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Fri, 16 Jan 2015 17:08:10 -0800 From: James_ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 17:08:09 -0800 To: 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net> FILETIME=[0FCDB310:01D031F2] Subject: [6pack] Carbon canister Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net How does one know if it nice new charcoal. And how is it supposed to open? I tried unscrewing to no avail. Found some at a junk yard and want to look inside first before selling. bSent from my Atari 2600b _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 19 11:41:41 2015 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6492584F25 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 11:41:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC4S30.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s30.hotmail.com [65.55.111.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D47725846CF for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 11:41:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU406-EAS161 ([65.55.111.137]) by BLU004-OMC4S30.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Mon, 19 Jan 2015 10:45:25 -0800 From: James_ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 10:45:23 -0800 To: 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net> FILETIME=[1678F670:01D03418] Subject: [6pack] Hand brake cable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net My hand brake cable isn't stopping the car on a slight incline. In the past it meant time to adjust at the drums. And that worked. But the darn threaded end is so long it hits the Clevis pin. I ordered a new cable and it is actually VERY long. So I decided to use the old one and cut off a small length of the threads so I could tighten. Question: is this common? Others had to do this? Why is the Moss cable so long? Maybe it is a universal cable these days. Thoughts? Thanks. James bSent from my Atari 2600b _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 19 15:15:29 2015 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557FB2584522 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 15:15:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC4S16.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s16.hotmail.com [65.55.111.155]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE7B258020D for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 15:14:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU406-EAS354 ([65.55.111.135]) by BLU004-OMC4S16.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Mon, 19 Jan 2015 14:19:18 -0800 From: James_ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 14:19:16 -0800 To: 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net> FILETIME=[F7834270:01D03435] Subject: [6pack] Which carpet to buy? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net I am looking for a new carpet and insulation set. I have beige seats and panels. Currently using brown carpet. I may switch to beige. Which company do folks recommend? I saw Prestige sells Carley's for much less. And it looks like colors are limited on the big three. Some offer beige some don't. I guess I could stick with brown to reduce the look of dirt on beige carpets. Black probably would look generic/odd against beige seats and a green car. Hmmm. _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 19 16:40:18 2015 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178972584D8A for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 16:40:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (unknown [98.139.212.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F184A2584592 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 16:33:11 -0700 (MST) s=s2048; t=1421710637; bh=hsDDmgnP3KuJXIp36DSktf/rKckhHhZ72LqoeX2NM38=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=t8khM9D+MJgJ+eDoHG0bPAc6nhIWc2U+LDT7LgQBQGW7IloSQLysSb2Fi6Wqk4aEItADN6Wpi58U8YVlpY1EQ8ZjGnBhgKaopz6ENm0VmIujD0Z3yQx7y12YFQ3qOmn9NMbGs+tXJCGDoCHoidiw/YPSz5FWrC2N72uSpOCj598jtJxCi/CZE/VXrfs9kKWYlgzOqLk6u+ecdBlYJb8jkgwb+KCgvDWaYFsQQ8tqinLNJ1fdbG204CubP5XL7Br/GZ78j2QvBolgIrdLxrlXHZL8AT1aVO9GWu3SiMG1hc/cBzHfvQl1Wsvk4bnvYMUvcyidtr/Uk5aLajKWJcwwtQ== Received: from [98.139.215.143] by nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jan 2015 23:37:17 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.201] by tm14.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jan 2015 23:37:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1010.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jan 2015 23:37:17 -0000 BWNwTrDm4rfjaIsa31DYiRQIZgF699GjC08DHGuCS0LfjPsi9QbNYeJ_Fkh8z39.1hnE2FLARe59 xNlw.0eXNZU4txMBPsDHW92jylg2hcVoILPpDhBf_.JR_uRLx9Uvrl_ogJRv71eSugePgir494F2 FFzjoefjb9MHuW5C0dE.gTpSONRNDuUJtEK98hs92oArpp8bmEdniLjLQuVr1Oj2MPECRQ6CRc3M 1ipph0c8WA40WerQzomCn0w4bxgqSmOq1YIDDqNSAVPmjdU6GeECvv.itA_Qeg.AV9v4Af3JS_OB ppMDROx2lqTc8_8LCIlVx7W2YPvOQlPLNNcVe_d59FVR_vjq1WiqTE0wbMfaT_45tgqoOZNWhiZg Ak2YH1WxxRso4cSEKZvH33F8L1r_YOhlPmTaI2vRbROSHAp3VnmAesmpavBmxQ5zPEdAmjhve5yU 9ipflgwhZqd95r3HmnUziF4CAbdmlLNohDvDxpvseQnDklvz.P1YdeDeYvWXN.ryUVPVMVSTKZry 8jrBuWN7xY.HibLBCrM6GLLkXmR8ZawSDBrh6zw-- Received: by 76.13.26.108; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 23:37:17 +0000 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 23:37:17 +0000 (UTC) From: Jim Jones To: James_ , 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net> References: Subject: Re: [6pack] Which carpet to buy? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Strangely, you'll find that the lighter carpet colors will less show lint, grass bits, and other detritus than black or brown. Black is darn near impossible to noticeable soil. Brown will show gravel less than the other two. I would probably go with the beige carpet and use rubber mats when driving. B Jim Jones (573) 635-3557 Jones Beltone Hearing and Audiology 1431 Southwest Blvd. Suite 1 Jefferson City, MO 65109 www.jonesbeltone.com From: James_ To: 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 4:19 PM Subject: [6pack] Which carpet to buy? I am looking for a new carpet and insulation set. I have beige seats and panels. Currently using brown carpet. I may switch to beige. Which company do folks recommend? I saw Prestige sells Carley's for much less. And it looks like colors are limited on the big three. Some offer beige some don't. I guess I could stick with brown to reduce the look of dirt on beige carpets. Black probably would look generic/odd against beige seats and a green car. Hmmm. Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/jimjcmo@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 19 16:40:42 2015 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8B62584F09 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 16:40:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from nm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5272584592 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 16:34:57 -0700 (MST) s=s2048; t=1421710758; bh=6rDfD8T8Y8pmZ6Kgbu6ZczaOw4gKqu9CnWZ4infPqJE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=p7JLDEsTubrAGDqV4+bBjPVUEYckvw9anYJPnDFoauPr3luRcug1LdRYZ1UpRLI90BXEvLL/1VF0fJZqm8qm/8jbe2DZEy+cCV+3zZA42VuGkD0LnJwVIkln/WXMUlCLBXR1RJznOYyTLj7ryAqMzjnY4i/vMwymIQC6gE824C4qtBWzERrGyzKlAPz+se+vrMUsqkPSb6bTDHRy9MsLgl23XbsxmfBymRJL3MO/y/05tb4O9sY2omCF3RwAbWIRL0kLIR+x42hiXZ7tjkJ6Yx6Up45u6EPxNQ882WMtwlwxGcsdIKOvVdHyh10D/YxW6vyKLB+4+GmQ/+u3UQY4mA== Received: from [98.139.215.143] by nm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jan 2015 23:39:18 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.203] by tm14.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jan 2015 23:39:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1012.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jan 2015 23:39:18 -0000 _iGSElFYNqbuaVpamh963LJkD_d5glYnMsbGoNOqpgY__g98Yt70oOm3DIA0H0UFvtSIf5X0LssI Fdz3Bg0au4EAuUQ5hGDf4kr8YMFoqDdRvRbOrqeZ0s3cEr5e5fGr1RdwfU4NdI4ne7KIC7R6dUTo t1Uyycbb6cVQEHNakMJqnZtaRGS7hdvSrBohkEZ1Nf.LQRglumJK1_jtbIhe0RM5iFzOwbZJA8RB 0VeLMaHUBDXX80zWEn7CI5wKLf24uooLQvVYoIbh5CqgFVhMkaKIVWl4OsYsUxiJ.TidsiKkW_DP PL2vobf.72A5t_wgWtx5FKdTb_b3mQ9w0bZStZVS3YoO5stmZw3cIvfHcxeCgPcTTRqonblMeWza uleZeQdpZzeYOHTZLZR6i.Qv6BbugP7lyzTf90SyW96xOLlm3JtBt6riN6d_r3lrj.k0hGCFuiof CNDB9_O1uEt1udYIglmei6vcBgRhzw6OH6secZRoKcLlRhgYcflNHH4dCbqsogRPwUWiDdGydKgT 8jWrnu_DkPFjkA_JzLdivWRTFrhbF4kaf57pEtOCFIkZveU2.a2F2KztTq70wfrTyFg-- Received: by 66.196.80.123; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 23:39:18 +0000 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 23:39:17 +0000 (UTC) From: Jim Jones To: James_ , 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net> References: Subject: Re: [6pack] Hand brake cable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net This is very common. Every TR will needs its cable adjusted or shortened. When I had my car I adjusted the cable every year, and shortened it as you did twice. B Jim Jones (573) 635-3557 Jones Beltone Hearing and Audiology 1431 Southwest Blvd. Suite 1 Jefferson City, MO 65109 www.jonesbeltone.com From: James_ To: 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 12:45 PM Subject: [6pack] Hand brake cable My hand brake cable isn't stopping the car on a slight incline. In the past it meant time to adjust at the drums. And that worked. But the darn threaded end is so long it hits the Clevis pin. I ordered a new cable and it is actually VERY long. So I decided to use the old one and cut off a small length of the threads so I could tighten. Question: is this common? Others had to do this? Why is the Moss cable so long? Maybe it is a universal cable these days. Thoughts? Thanks. James bSent from my Atari 2600b Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/jimjcmo@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 19 19:14:56 2015 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B482584F97 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 19:14:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC4S24.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s24.hotmail.com [65.55.111.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7CD52584F54 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 18:44:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU406-EAS163 ([65.55.111.135]) by BLU004-OMC4S24.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Mon, 19 Jan 2015 17:48:18 -0800 References: From: James_ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 17:48:16 -0800 To: 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net> FILETIME=[29B0B1C0:01D03453] Subject: Re: [6pack] Which carpet to buy? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Whoops. Silly auto correct. Below was supposed to say 'prestige sells CARPETS for less money...' Not Carley's! Hah. bSent from my Atari 2600b > On Jan 19, 2015, at 2:19 PM, "James_" wrote: > > I am looking for a new carpet and insulation set. > I have beige seats and panels. > Currently using brown carpet. I may switch to beige. > Which company do folks recommend? > I saw Prestige sells Carley's for much > less. > And it looks like colors are limited on the big three. Some offer beige some > don't. I guess I could stick with brown to reduce the look of dirt on beige > carpets. Black probably would look generic/odd against beige seats and a green > car. > > Hmmm. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/jattr6@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 21 00:44:51 2015 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAFCF2584487 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2015 00:44:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from nschwmtas03p.mx.bigpond.com (unknown [61.9.189.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF582580754 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Wed, 21 Jan 2015 00:32:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from nschwcmgw07p ([61.9.190.167]) by nschwmtas03p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20150121073653.GVIC23397.nschwmtas03p.mx.bigpond.com@nschwcmgw07p> for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Wed, 21 Jan 2015 07:36:53 +0000 Received: from [10.0.0.25] ([58.169.44.54]) by nschwcmgw07p with BigPond Outbound id iXcp1p00K1A7rGA01XcpAQ; Wed, 21 Jan 2015 07:36:53 +0000 a=caSpzdO/5EGALx9eVgPXKQ==:17 a=1IlZJK9HAAAA:8 a=GxbRv7Il79KIIO3mOIwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=99DLwxj-2EYA:10 a=R22SWv-vpbMA:10 a=zl6oxznUbnUA:10 a=iNzYb-bcBwypIQLncCYA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=Syx4r14jmmhmvMgl:21 a=0bwPlpDAAAAA:8 a=lr3263C25pkJXIgDk5YA:9 a=KQqxNPgzF0kA:10 a=Sf_gFPzhefAA:10 a=qbNSzEH59jyw84RC:21 a=QnjOL8dCRfyTQmuQ:21 a=7BL5hWY2GZ3Ax_c5:18 a=awn4LuQ0AAAA:8 a=6XzMk_Q4SK8U_YQ270gA:9 a=6Z6gqZKbZIKWFAU5:21 a=A2D_cabz8bU21MHV:21 a=N-9gE7RnhR_vxak-:18 a=caSpzdO/5EGALx9eVgPXKQ==:117 From: David Rogers Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 18:36:48 +1100 References: To: 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Colour Options Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net James, Just another combination to ponder! It is a deeper maroon than shown in the pix. Dave Rogers Canberra Australia _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 21 08:36:16 2015 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D81725846F0 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2015 08:36:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from nm25-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm25-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.155]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3CB2584448 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Wed, 21 Jan 2015 08:31:38 -0700 (MST) s=s2048; t=1421854560; bh=AN1ZwoBTbBe4tHAbpJo+hqmPsbPNIA1STC1tuz1Fsio=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:From:Subject; b=hMfFGwpBg5cIVfu0H/Jdk3w8L46K4u+aSgndF8LPnFeM54+pb8vdeFohm8bPsa4LVpTld/2224wVlKmb+r28Fu/Xc3Qz2ydEN9hd10cZJQF0pDMUH+m3PDgNWWmBu46ZKvrvzDgc6PiokhUAfeplY0wJ0TcYcVYmRpsyBDM1XaEhNkmW7iXba3jLiHESEEZHCHdfw0cHOZQV40plTlfdXSCCo7VqPMysNsJymP25jp3QJy3+nEDvucDbPIsCLRujELtizEqQXRfJrp/lgkEWhor8m8yuTkOnMKLXOKH+ns1DTQnCyKJb4u/lKnVN5Rwh4dBd6VgHmej/T6DTyl5M1A== Received: from [66.196.81.173] by nm25.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jan 2015 15:36:00 -0000 Received: from [98.139.215.253] by tm19.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jan 2015 15:36:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1066.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jan 2015 15:36:00 -0000 dadlLw9A5N7IorpbYol1azbEu8Jo0_M3jOMyKM4vESA1PWV4TK88MnVaNUe0Ly7kpRDeDuZ36Iyh N4z1FrhA05DJGUhJ2vMx.qcPRxNQ7cZrPT9kJ7BjXZmnoaeUaUgenWe1gebj5dGZo6g_VMgVlRfY 5hOiLGg_1FTxmMFZDCYvpsqx2w2VvCGyEr2cAX.DFLN.TBMgXuTd_oxL_0yR7avbFNeWd7vayXG_ AaFEDLLPxI9WtNbnQwNqwW..q1Bpn2EHVIjHW0jnb5EQZyoIx65BxIv9zksRzipvfwz8fp.CwOag UPXFVlEuQ3Wmtv5.b0bhjfiaJgScraaPwkVGJtX7CIKyp06YvtwJnvOErMnVDTSafmifqvfkHJpj ZR3MsyXcjLcJOXpOsMZgG3bpkYo20DB8P.JXb_Gowi1TmLviLbejpODdRKzrzG2j0Dqg1ZBHfjNl 9KtyZqkLDXE4- Received: by 76.13.26.110; Wed, 21 Jan 2015 15:36:00 +0000 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 15:35:59 +0000 (UTC) From: Yahoo To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: [6pack] carpet to buy? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net I have cockpit carpet in lighter tan and trunk carpet in new tan. B both in nylon from TRF. B Both are very nice, but I think the new tan with light tan binding looks richer. B I would go with my trunk color in cockpit nest time.Seats are Miata tan leather. B I was concerned about spare oil or other leaking onto trunk carpet so went with new tanCheers, Bruce Simms _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 22 05:00:34 2015 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768A12580915 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2015 05:00:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from mail-proxy501.heteml.jp (unknown [157.7.188.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E406525800C6 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Thu, 22 Jan 2015 04:57:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from mail-proxy501.heteml.jp (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail-proxy501.heteml.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90AF66A3B9D; Thu, 22 Jan 2015 21:02:02 +0900 (JST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1) by mail-proxy501.heteml.jp (HETEML-Fsecure); Thu, 22 Jan 2015 21:02:02 +0900 (JST) Received: from smtp.heteml.jp (151-87-207-82.ip.ukrtel.net [82.207.87.151]) (Authenticated sender: design@lifeporter.co.jp) by mail-proxy501.heteml.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Thu, 22 Jan 2015 21:02:02 +0900 (JST) From: "im" To: "aellner" , "6pack" <6pack@autox.team.net>, "amos pigg" , "dave" Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2015 01:02:01 +0000 Subject: [6pack] design x Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net http://golfteam.us/vfwwd/adxfeddkftzvikcatrwoopsptakaatvaeh.gcmhjfqsxthvuhgp xwdwdthsmonmwzsjgr im 1/22/2015 1:02:01 PM _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 30 13:07:13 2015 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF14825862C8 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:07:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC4S23.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s23.hotmail.com [65.55.111.162]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7AE12584513 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:02:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU406-EAS65 ([65.55.111.137]) by BLU004-OMC4S23.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Fri, 30 Jan 2015 12:05:38 -0800 From: James_ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 12:05:36 -0800 To: 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net> FILETIME=[1DCAA550:01D03CC8] Subject: [6pack] Hardtop vents Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Could someone measure and photograph their hardtop rear vents for me. The PO installed lights were the vents should be. Anyone have any spare vents? I have some, but they seem the wrong size. Thanks bSent from my Atari 2600b _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 30 16:37:59 2015 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E61258456D for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2015 16:37:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from nm31-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm31-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 241EC2580092 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Fri, 30 Jan 2015 16:34:13 -0700 (MST) s=s2048; t=1422661122; bh=0o4ApGXbvTTA/Qh1UFlTpc3Fd747Sf9M9WaiRQSazuI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=pXBuB+MwddHoiALgWIzbCzA/irG5Ehs8ZFVIyp6FA22m5tTwrdFDNLtFTmuiAZq+3fE+SZovo+B+J9aKNazpB0i+2rvMaFUw2CBM+EZD5U0w5q1a/SaOZ7ZOZMLYYjXmZC6JGmD7XfF8BIOPgq5cLxZVrh2ta2Y99bjh5+YMyUDWUpdSvutyE5mumR3jzImBEh2E39NVy5RJr4WyY7v5gXqzBKYaSVytNVcRuItSW7bZ4fHZNuUat+txDoBG3DbXYcoa0RF57Ek9o/86T9rMiPT4m+cVnVBgo2ARQFPuVQEsiYvoVuikrRtMlcmU6NbGKJCK3shFB9oeK/QwLdBAUQ== Received: from [98.139.215.143] by nm31.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2015 23:38:42 -0000 Received: from [98.139.215.230] by tm14.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2015 23:38:41 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1070.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2015 23:38:41 -0000 ikaQ8mf51v3Faswd2oCVvmpnpC4BmLyv8Jy.b3KYbKswK06jbxfoEJAU2ufJZN91rpcuoGPpWLWb N35P5Dk5iYJncRvGOrAMVohXbbKnM.p5SJ3XgnFiDxdxCBbCrf2F13DHUOzT2Gho11Xikc1DXhjt IBkl3d5YVAF4AX9TosmnJqbHIPiIo.QS9NAa1rVq5.JBPt.fbrynusCxRHJJAbSTkwXC.naTHnAt afeOV_3uK_a3jqohz1uDl3wx7DZdK._um9SWWuScuVnqTaL7XnkdN7YBgBpfWFO.9E4JlO4ymDUl 8EHYklUHBumOD_fqWN4eBjwchlyUjspKk5P2HNf8xSraauQi_Lh71twxtQBt8KVyf4FTHPx1x4gm 1Is4p72JAMPQkuRngG6IH4DxP7vpC0_TjJM9kWIZy.k0XCUF4CykZNYhcZZQVrWZCBQCdtFYPANI T.lGcLFahaa7n2XY1kh9F5iNTs0Tus3gSvtT6FBPvTrdboUeioBzXdchFGA7PZ733rmH5BylBeyU qKtRmieOBroS.2z1gwQEOhuJYtMs01QdXHUynDnGSlJehUj.J1QrVFOj4K1izo.dgU1voYvnRRp1 nsXZcwm9GuTWHOJXrfENp9FWe54oV2Dzc1r7j7zEhv8hYL7nSkFOWtpJUR5I6Zy6imvaZWX52EWU x7mLD7UPh3LlhzTnZuy2dGAac.KKdBg-- Received: by 66.196.81.106; Fri, 30 Jan 2015 23:38:39 +0000 Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 23:38:38 +0000 (UTC) From: Sally or Dick Taylor To: James_ , 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net> References: Subject: Re: [6pack] Hardtop vents Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net James --- Here's what mine measures out tob&Dick On Friday, January 30, 2015 12:11 PM, James_ wrote: Could someone measure and photograph their hardtop rear vents for me. The PO installed lights were the vents should be. Anyone have any spare vents? I have some, but they seem the wrong size. Thanks bSent from my Atari 2600b Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/taylorturbo6@yahoo.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack