I've got the fuel tank out on my '71 and am going to put new f= elt strips on the trunk side and one strip on the bottom (as I chiseled off= the factory rubber pads on the bottom that had hardened). Wondering what a= dhesive to use to mount them? I was thinking 3M super weatherstrip adhesive= or the 3M 77 spray, but wanted to see what you guys have used with long-te= rm success. Also, is one TRF strip sufficient for the bottom or do you need= 2?

<= br>

Cheer= s,

Ryan

------=_Part_1310019_105422926.1460062167431-- --===============5968128068261108162== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack --===============5968128068261108162==-- From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 7 17:33:29 2016 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 241F22584D65 for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2016 17:33:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from nm30-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm30-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.126]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6322588EB7 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Thu, 7 Apr 2016 16:25:52 -0600 (MDT) t=1460068426; bh=vmn+v2+lhqPTyZ9+sbN75zfK754lHP8ZRN7uCEm4dbs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=fMkl06NjobR43VMFvsDOr3XxawQePkptzIzcwsUL/S2mauUDC5cfnGsm63DEyyQTe7W1h9anmIQS9HFX5JwiP3vtc0Yb9MvO6p2ZwjI/Mgm2fLAvbVooWuu/5ND4+EMjZme0XuyamyazCoQiBNmG1ojrf83I8OdxsofJvmS7CbZkWlhyKZtYLhHlvCdSL4LL8IkFEJ0MsJbkoWiaHWYcJOlijUtfGPcb3eyODjY2RW2BkcD3f04UsZNqA33Aozr5vACHrKpfw5JTbnWuhST8SAJp7kGNqVukqFnjg2uUYOb30FNUIO76oev83yEQJDnmW4GiWL/Ze3ZfTEDLujFJRw== Received: from [98.139.170.178] by nm30.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Apr 2016 22:33:46 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.236] by tm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Apr 2016 22:33:46 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1045.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Apr 2016 22:33:46 -0000 WPjt5S9x3oJwpEa.6LxZkBL6st5ZGD4ggyqCm1E09a7RMfbaEnZUeY4Q88RXQ_nlNT5Uamiy.2EY tVn7UGDv9MvHyhExY1.FYK1V6ohoqRIerta0Rnj27i4pmuOVoFroSRbgMj13pqD0GaC7zTkYeH31 WuZySa3FoflXuq6oJmhX5ZiOzZPW.9D8s4M3nnlKKj2ZLL0XnCoNNUR3RLtTsSwDiksqsPOUtgCt IFrmUGf2VCtPcLNmSbC_S4JQxhqstgViiR045EgpTO0syJ0CPJWX6m3NHkgrHV0Gylh4mAGk_neJ HiohqnLe8E1FHICo6qF.X.iD1r571SYkR2_JKU1w2AVFbZnY.4bepiimR0YxRYVuKx9ua5TiY37V WJQw_OlZHH6gHVuKsj84hKu5L4eJd0slXYlx05878vGCGGLj6fD0.3vbsp5o0V_row5LTPV9eX7Z _hDXa3EfFRPEl Received: by 76.13.26.66; Thu, 07 Apr 2016 22:33:46 +0000 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 22:33:45 +0000 (UTC) To: Ryan , "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> References: <1289446406.1310020.1460062167433.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel tank felt strips From: Jim Jones via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1273648940311915696== boundary="----=_Part_1308953_2085759258.1460068425855" ------=_Part_1308953_2085759258.1460068425855 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I used double stick tape to attach my felt. Neat, easy, no worries about ov= erspray.=C2=A0Jim Jones From: Ryan via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>=20 Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 3:49 PM Subject: [6pack] Fuel tank felt strips =20 I've got the fuel tank out on my '71 and am going to put new felt strips on= the trunk side and one strip on the bottom (as I chiseled off the factory = rubber pads on the bottom that had hardened). Wondering what adhesive to us= e to mount them? I was thinking 3M super weatherstrip adhesive or the 3M 77= spray, but wanted to see what you guys have used with long-term success. A= lso, is one TRF strip sufficient for the bottom or do you need 2? Cheers,Ryan _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack oo.com ------=_Part_1308953_2085759258.1460068425855 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I used double stick tape to attach my felt. Neat, easy, no worries ab= out overspray.

Jim Jones

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I've got the fuel= tank out on my '71 and am going to put new felt strips on the trunk side a= nd one strip on the bottom (as I chiseled off the factory rubber pads on th= e bottom that had hardened). Wondering what adhesive to use to mount them? = I was thinking 3M super weatherstrip adhesive or the 3M 77 spray, but wante= d to see what you guys have used with long-term success. Also, is one TRF s= trip sufficient for the bottom or do you need 2?

Cheers,<= /div>

Ryan

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I still have 90% left =E2=80=A6 > = http://www.amazon.com/Loctite-234227-LOC51048-Anti-Seize-Compound/dp/B001H= WBSJW/ref=3Dsr_1_25?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1460227433&sr=3D8-25&keywords=3Dspline= +lubricant = "Life is too short to drive boring cars" Bill Pugh 1957 TR3 "Casper"=F0=9F=91=BB TS16765L Wallace, CA anabil007@comcast.net=F0=9F=90=94 --Apple-Mail=_DC33C52E-A711-4277-B3FB-9CFB51D95887 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8

This = stuff works great, of course you will have enough to do all the hub = splines in the known universe.

I still have 90% left = =E2=80=A6

http://www.amazon.com/Loctite-234227-LOC51048-Anti-Seize-Compou= nd/dp/B001HWBSJW/ref=3Dsr_1_25?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1460227433&sr=3D8-2= 5&keywords=3Dspline+lubricant

"Life is too short to drive boring = cars"

Bill Pugh
1957 TR3 = "Casper"=F0=9F=91=BB
TS16765L
Wallace, CA
anabil007@comcast.net=F0=9F=90=94

= --Apple-Mail=_DC33C52E-A711-4277-B3FB-9CFB51D95887-- --===============2370863086005086190== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack --===============2370863086005086190==-- From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 9 18:18:47 2016 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB35258804B for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2016 18:18:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128ED25898CE for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Sat, 9 Apr 2016 15:55:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.146] (ool-18e4bf1c.dyn.optonline.net [24.228.191.28]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0O5D00DWYZY7XI10@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for 6pack@autox.team.net; Sat, 09 Apr 2016 18:03:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2016 18:10:06 -0400 To: 6pack@autox.team.net References: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 Subject: Re: [6pack] 6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 2 From: Ed McGuirk via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net I don't know what the correct spec is but my general rule is that if it is supposed to move, use grease; and if it is not supposed to move use anti-seize. ( I get kind of annoyed at the people who demand only grease where it should be anti-seize. And generally anti-seize is a very poor grease substitute on moving parts.) ed However I believe the trunnion is supposed to use oil so what do I know? On 4/9/2016 2:00 PM, 6pack-request@autox.team.net wrote: > Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 22:43:32 -0400 > From: ron landis > To: 6pack@autox.team.net > Subject: [6pack] Wire wheel grease > > Listers Any recommendations for the type of lube to put on splines of wire wheels would be appreciated > > Thanks > Ron > > _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 9 21:59:17 2016 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DD52588B91 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2016 21:59:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from nm46-vm10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm46-vm10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.87.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8762F2589610 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Sat, 9 Apr 2016 19:42:59 -0600 (MDT) t=1460253055; bh=me+GJRBlBSt7XQTQqW+ejxLD1r+Aje5F47947c7+Brg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:References:From:Subject; b=ao6A9Tayq/3nh3MIkv++NSPnokPFvSX6EpC/SmHm/FdyHAkitXHfmEaIUfmpbptT7n9Vp7UOc9lhW0lJMJo+vnkaL4zFf6y3X6X9Xdrzv0gz/kCO882nF4SiiyOoiN6nIAYMk6IAd2YAF//pUbrbMitNerE4qUYl/9FInLsK8U57IiuKLZa+Agb2sZSRCpCEeDBmmr/rW3OXLgqBDly/KakaKdrcgKRRJkuYMfixqI3jjDoJz8W4t2KVXbdw+ntgQMPDWfShAg89Mn4VdEqImdylMnvRj6Zvjxrr0vt/NYFfvrPmBov04lgd3JJbDxFwKBuj8FjxUTzYWexqeWIc5w== Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm46.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Apr 2016 01:50:55 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.190] by nm46.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Apr 2016 01:47:54 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.205] by tm11.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Apr 2016 01:47:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1013.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Apr 2016 01:47:54 -0000 onZ1tgu5jfyh8W1tGkkytQry8IBIq8g2R8zDNq.HU82wZcrXYnxk81zY5uShdLwJVgMl7X4cGcwY L.cgXyTvNj0gLarAsfuzioNb6AOk9pitQa6NwgK32Lg47hlmkoOJvRQiWQOW0AM2zpjz3oHY_aNL eSi9B277u1_I6z3kNavzdQ.SfL3.Ue9v8BW6.XzDCVZEJ0MVqLhJi0R9F.hYEo17NvoaMIhb2_.w gJDNj60nodNlDHrmWJZs1r8wTWdg52Q5BRzRXo7UCHX27n9Tq212OxvVgFhYegDxDKmSoo1iJvie a6O.sbxsi7xXGy6JLxEGT8tupAqBixZ9C1JRCr2cCQHiG_qhwOM694HF09C0VDWeE.kRuW0_KLoI qdl2jQgISsQ3gBm4J71NUyBuMfcBvjyeX5Mw4mLXF5AKJlq9RQ.C0TZoSGg.TNNbztXSj9BqnFwj QJDjohZhEz1SMR35ZQo8Q.eWBbGY63MaXW1yhHBYHYUCXWsUEx5BhsxI- Received: by 216.39.60.196; Sun, 10 Apr 2016 01:47:53 +0000 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 01:47:33 +0000 (UTC) To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> References: <513783005.85365.1460252853724.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave From: John Summers via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7472576451578452362== boundary="----=_Part_85364_1509693191.1460252853721" ------=_Part_85364_1509693191.1460252853721 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) =C2=A0I changed my clutch slave c= ylinder and bled it. =C2=A0Went for a drive andafter sitting in a drive thr= ough a few minutes had a heck of a time getting it in gear. =C2=A0I learned= a long time agonot to take the car out of gear in situations like that. = =C2=A0After some crunching of gears I got home. =C2=A0On adviceof one more = experienced than me I re-bled the thing with my son pushing the pedal and m= e under the car.=C2=A0Finally after seeing no more air bubbles and having a= good amount of resistance I went for a short drive.Returning home and abou= t to turn into my driveway I had to crunch the gears again. =C2=A0More flui= d was added and=C2=A0more pumping etc. I felt confident. =C2=A0I got to the= end of my street today before I had to do a U turn and come home.I wonder = whats wrong? =C2=A0 =C2=A0There are different spots on the rod into the sla= ve and frankly I don't remember=C2=A0which hole I have it set at. =C2=A0Wou= ld changing that make a difference? =C2=A0Should I go to the hole nearer th= eslave or father away, should it come to that. =C2=A0Ideas, opinions, praye= rs?=C2=A0John Summers, =C2=A0Jacksonville Florida'74 TR 6 Thanks folks. ------=_Part_85364_1509693191.1460252853721 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) I changed my c= lutch slave cylinder and bled it. Went for a drive and

after sitting in a dr= ive through a few minutes had a heck of a time getting it in gear. I = learned a long time ago

not to take the car out of gear in situations like that. &nb= sp;After some crunching of gears I got home. On advice

of one more experienc= ed than me I re-bled the thing with my son pushing the pedal and me under t= he car.

Finally after seeing no more air bubbles and having a good amount of r= esistance I went for a short drive.

Returning home and about to turn into my drivewa= y I had to crunch the gears again. More fluid was added and

more pumping= etc. I felt confident. I got to the end of my street today before I = had to do a U turn and come home.

I wonder whats wrong? There are diffe= rent spots on the rod into the slave and frankly I don't remember

which hole I= have it set at. Would changing that make a difference? Should = I go to the hole nearer the

slave or father away, should it come to that. Idea= s, opinions, prayers?

John Summers, Jacksonville Florida

'74 TR 6

Thanks folks.

------=_Part_85364_1509693191.1460252853721-- --===============7472576451578452362== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack --===============7472576451578452362==-- From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 10 00:01:58 2016 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A843A2589204 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2016 00:01:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from SNT004-OMC1S52.hotmail.com (snt004-omc1s52.hotmail.com [65.54.61.89]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B15F258931C for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Sat, 9 Apr 2016 20:49:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from NAM01-BN3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([65.55.90.8]) by SNT004-OMC1S52.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Sat, 9 Apr 2016 19:57:13 -0700 Received: from SN1NAM01FT042.eop-nam01.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.64.54) by SN1NAM01HT128.eop-nam01.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.65.138) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.453.6; Sun, 10 Apr 2016 02:57:11 +0000 Received: from SN1PR18MB0192.namprd18.prod.outlook.com (10.152.64.59) by SN1NAM01FT042.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.152.65.205) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.453.6 via Frontend Transport; Sun, 10 Apr 2016 02:57:11 +0000 Received: from SN1PR18MB0192.namprd18.prod.outlook.com ([10.163.58.140]) by SN1PR18MB0192.namprd18.prod.outlook.com ([10.163.58.140]) with mapi id 15.01.0447.029; Sun, 10 Apr 2016 02:57:05 +0000 To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> Thread-Topic: LBC Show in North/Western NC next weekend Thread-Index: AQHRktOjeUoAVo4W20+rhXmDJWikzQ== Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 02:57:05 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US authentication-results: spf=softfail (sender IP is 25.152.64.59) header.d=none; autox.team.net; dmarc=fail action=none header.from=hotmail.com; received-spf: SoftFail (protection.outlook.com: domain of transitioning hotmail.com discourages use of 25.152.64.59 as permitted sender) x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-tmn: [IDaTILNDkhtBUem3KMDQZaGlT16TAZ+s] x-eopattributedmessage: 0 x-forefront-antispam-report: CIP:25.152.64.59; IPV:NLI; CTRY:GB; EFV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(98900003); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:SN1NAM01HT128; H:SN1PR18MB0192.namprd18.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:SoftFail; MLV:ovrnspm; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 93dd77ba-9098-41fd-3e21-08d360ebcca7 x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(5061506196)(5061507196); SRVR:SN1NAM01HT128; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(432015012)(102415293)(102615271)(82015046); SRVR:SN1NAM01HT128; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:SN1NAM01HT128; x-forefront-prvs: 09086FB5C5 FILETIME=[AEC1BEF0:01D192D4] Subject: [6pack] LBC Show in North/Western NC next weekend From: im sloane via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6987461361332844536== Content-Language: en-US boundary="_004_SN1PR18MB019299DB9A9CA7FAB2D4FB6F8E930SN1PR18MB0192namp_"; type="multipart/alternative" --_004_SN1PR18MB019299DB9A9CA7FAB2D4FB6F8E930SN1PR18MB0192namp_ boundary="_000_SN1PR18MB019299DB9A9CA7FAB2D4FB6F8E930SN1PR18MB0192namp_" --_000_SN1PR18MB019299DB9A9CA7FAB2D4FB6F8E930SN1PR18MB0192namp_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey guys, Anybody on-list close enough to come to North/Western NC next weekend? The= Triumph Club of the Carolinas annual event 'The Gathering' is at Sheldon V= ineyards in Dobson, NC. Info at www.triumphclub.org. It's a 3 day event, but Friday is mostly a self-guided tour around so= me nice mountain and foot-hill back roads and Sunday morning is a really fu= n auto-cross. The main car show is all day Saturday of course. Just to be c= lear, this is April 15, 16, & 17. The vineyard is about 10 miles south of t= he NC/VA line on I-77. Maybe reply if you might be there. I will be as long as the weather is nice= . I think I'll drive the Spit this year. Sloane [😊] 69-Six 72-Spit --_000_SN1PR18MB019299DB9A9CA7FAB2D4FB6F8E930SN1PR18MB0192namp_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey guys,
Anybody on-list close enough to come to North/Western NC next weekend? = ; The Triumph Club of the Carolinas annual event 'The Gathering' is at Shel= don Vineyards in Dobson, NC. Info at www.triumphclub.org. It's a 3 day event, but Friday is mostly a self-gu= ided tour around some nice mountain and foot-hill back roads and Sunday mor= ning is a really fun auto-cross. The main car show is all day Saturday of c= ourse. Just to be clear, this is April 15, 16, & 17. The vineyard is about 10 miles south of the NC/VA = line on I-77.

Maybe reply if you might be there. I will be as long as the weather is n= ice. I think I'll drive the Spit this year.

Sloane 3D"&#X1f60a"

69-Six

72-Spit

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One thought here is to safely jack the car up and see if you have excessive= movement in the clutch fork. This can be done with the slave rod disconnec= ted from the arm. A small piece of pipe may help for leverage to see if you= feel a catch in the movement.=C2=A0 If so then you may have a broken pin i= n the clutch fork. Dale From: John Summers via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>=20 Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 9:47 PM Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave =20 I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) =C2=A0I changed my clutch slave c= ylinder and bled it. =C2=A0Went for a drive andafter sitting in a drive thr= ough a few minutes had a heck of a time getting it in gear. =C2=A0I learned= a long time agonot to take the car out of gear in situations like that. = =C2=A0After some crunching of gears I got home. =C2=A0On adviceof one more = experienced than me I re-bled the thing with my son pushing the pedal and m= e under the car.=C2=A0Finally after seeing no more air bubbles and having a= good amount of resistance I went for a short drive.Returning home and abou= t to turn into my driveway I had to crunch the gears again. =C2=A0More flui= d was added and=C2=A0more pumping etc. I felt confident. =C2=A0I got to the= end of my street today before I had to do a U turn and come home.I wonder = whats wrong? =C2=A0 =C2=A0There are different spots on the rod into the sla= ve and frankly I don't remember=C2=A0which hole I have it set at. =C2=A0Wou= ld changing that make a difference? =C2=A0Should I go to the hole nearer th= eslave or father away, should it come to that. =C2=A0Ideas, opinions, praye= rs?=C2=A0John Summers, =C2=A0Jacksonville Florida'74 TR 6 Thanks folks. _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack hoo.com ------=_Part_153943_782445778.1460287133671 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

John

The normal hole to use is the c= enter hole.

If you have ha= d to add fluid after bleeding then where did the fluid go? Check to s= ee where the fluid went.

One thou= ght here is to safely jack the car up and see if you have excessive movemen= t in the clutch fork. This can be done with the slave rod disconnected from= the arm. A small piece of pipe may help for leverage to see if you feel a = catch in the movement. If so then you may have a broken pin in the cl= utch fork.

Dale

From: John Summers via 6pack <6= pack@autox.team.net>
To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 9:47 PM<= br> Subject: [6pack] My da= rned clutch slave

I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) I changed= my clutch slave cylinder and bled it. Went for a drive and

after= sitting in a drive through a few minutes had a heck of a time getting it i= n gear. I learned a long time ago

not to take the car out of gear= in situations like that. After some crunching of gears I got home. &= nbsp;On advice

of one more experienced than me I re-bled the thing with= my son pushing the pedal and me under the car.

Finally after see= ing no more air bubbles and having a good amount of resistance I went for a= short drive.

Returning home and about to turn into my driveway I had t= o crunch the gears again. More fluid was added and

more pum= ping etc. I felt confident. I got to the end of my street today befor= e I had to do a U turn and come home.

I wonder whats wrong? &nbs= p;There are different spots on the rod into the slave and frankly I don't r= emember

which hole I have it set at. Would changing that ma= ke a difference? Should I go to the hole nearer the

slave or fath= er away, should it come to that. Ideas, opinions, prayers?

= John Summers, Jacksonville Florida

'74 TR 6

Thanks f= olks.

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------=_Part_153943_782445778.1460287133671-- --===============6163359831856515005== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack --===============6163359831856515005==-- From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 10 07:51:00 2016 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CAE025891B5 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2016 07:51:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC1S21.hotmail.com (blu004-omc1s21.hotmail.com [65.55.116.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB79E25853BA for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Sun, 10 Apr 2016 05:55:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from NAM02-BL2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([65.55.116.8]) by BLU004-OMC1S21.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Sun, 10 Apr 2016 05:02:58 -0700 Received: from CY1NAM02FT059.eop-nam02.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.74.54) by CY1NAM02HT047.eop-nam02.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.74.244) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.453.6; Sun, 10 Apr 2016 12:02:56 +0000 Received: from SN1PR18MB0192.namprd18.prod.outlook.com (10.152.74.55) by CY1NAM02FT059.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.152.74.211) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.453.6 via Frontend Transport; Sun, 10 Apr 2016 12:02:56 +0000 Received: from SN1PR18MB0192.namprd18.prod.outlook.com ([10.163.58.140]) by SN1PR18MB0192.namprd18.prod.outlook.com ([10.163.58.140]) with mapi id 15.01.0447.029; Sun, 10 Apr 2016 12:02:56 +0000 To: John Summers , "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> Thread-Topic: [6pack] My darned clutch slave Thread-Index: AQHRkuCvsOZRgUixeU+j7JoyW2IfnJ+DGWYT Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 12:02:56 +0000 References: <513783005.85365.1460252853724.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>, <513783005.85365.1460252853724.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US authentication-results: spf=softfail (sender IP is 25.152.74.55) header.d=none;yahoo.com; dmarc=fail action=none header.from=hotmail.com; received-spf: SoftFail (protection.outlook.com: domain of transitioning hotmail.com discourages use of 25.152.74.55 as permitted sender) x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-tmn: [3fA0OdYV5sPYTPJUFih6046Tk3/QZKv6] x-eopattributedmessage: 0 x-forefront-antispam-report: CIP:25.152.74.55; IPV:NLI; CTRY:GB; EFV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(98900003); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:CY1NAM02HT047; H:SN1PR18MB0192.namprd18.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:SoftFail; MLV:ovrnspm; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 5a68e406-e47b-40d1-f069-08d361380d7e x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(5061506196)(5061507196); SRVR:CY1NAM02HT047; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(432015012)(82015046); SRVR:CY1NAM02HT047; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:CY1NAM02HT047; x-forefront-prvs: 09086FB5C5 FILETIME=[EC2DDC00:01D19320] Subject: Re: [6pack] My darned clutch slave From: im sloane via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1546056348901511759== Content-Language: en-US boundary="_000_SN1PR18MB0192EB8ACB3D88F3417B0D118E930SN1PR18MB0192namp_" --_000_SN1PR18MB0192EB8ACB3D88F3417B0D118E930SN1PR18MB0192namp_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John, I think much more knowledgeable guys will reply soon. The clutch is a trick= y issue, and I think you may have internal issues, throw out bearing, etc t= hat I don't know enough about to discuss. However, I can tell you a couple simple things. The holes in that rod are n= ot for adjustment although it would appear they are. I think the center hol= e is right. Also, cut the engine to prevent all that grinding when it acts = up. It may also help if you know how to 'float the gears', trucker term for= shifting through the gears with no clutch use. I don't like to do it all t= he time, but it's a good emergency technique to get you home in a pinch. If you're clutch seems fine, but then is not, it kinda sounds like you migh= t still have a hydraulic issue, maybe clutch master needs work. Also, check= the holes in both that tranny rod and the clutch pedal to ensure the pins = are not wobbley due to wear. Just a little bit of wobble at the pedal will = make for a huge loss in push rod movement. And when you just barely have en= ough clutch to not grind the gears, you're so close to grinding them and do= n't even know it. good luck, Sloane ________________________________ From: 6pack <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of John Summers via 6p= ack <6pack@autox.team.net> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 1:47 AM To: 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) --_000_SN1PR18MB0192EB8ACB3D88F3417B0D118E930SN1PR18MB0192namp_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

John,

I think much more knowledgeable guys will reply soon. The clutch is= a tricky issue, and I think you may have internal issues, throw out bearin= g, etc that I don't know enough about to discuss.

However, I can tell you a couple simple things. The holes in that rod ar= e not for adjustment although it would appear they are. I think the center = hole is right. Also, cut the engine to prevent all that grinding when it ac= ts up. It may also help if you know how to 'float the gears', trucker term for shifting through the gears with= no clutch use. I don't like to do it all the time, but it's a good emergen= cy technique to get you home in a pinch.

If you're clutch seems fine, but then is not, it kinda sounds like you m= ight still have a hydraulic issue, maybe clutch master needs work. Als= o, check the holes in both that tranny rod and the clutch pedal to ensure t= he pins are not wobbley due to wear. Just a little bit of wobble at the pedal will make for a huge loss in push= rod movement. And when you just barely have enough clutch to not grind the= gears, you're so close to grinding them and don't even know it.

good luck,

Sloane

From: 6pack <6pack-bounc= es@autox.team.net> on behalf of John Summers via 6pack <6pack@autox.t= eam.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 1:47 AM
To: 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave

I'm wondering = if there is anyone there:))

--_000_SN1PR18MB0192EB8ACB3D88F3417B0D118E930SN1PR18MB0192namp_-- --===============1546056348901511759== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack --===============1546056348901511759==-- From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 10 09:01:58 2016 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5082B258923D for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2016 09:01:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC4S3.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s3.hotmail.com [65.55.111.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08BAA2589068 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Sun, 10 Apr 2016 07:27:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU402-EAS102 ([65.55.111.135]) by BLU004-OMC4S3.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Sun, 10 Apr 2016 06:35:55 -0700 To: im sloane via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 09:35:53 -0400 Importance: normal Thread-Topic: FILETIME=[E86157C0:01D1932D] Subject: Re: [6pack] LBC Show in North/Western NC next weekend From: marty via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1561492286618192806== boundary="_4222dee5-8e5e-41c4-9f61-3cf4ebf77b58_" --_4222dee5-8e5e-41c4-9f61-3cf4ebf77b58_ boundary="_7ab0351d-ad10-4b59-a90b-2cd21c9d0d3f_" --_7ab0351d-ad10-4b59-a90b-2cd21c9d0d3f_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I=E2=80=99ll be there! Got to get out of this Ohio snow. Marty Sent from Mail for Window= s 10 Sent: Sunday=2C April 10=2C 2016 2:23 AM Subject: [6pack] LBC Show in North/Western NC next weekend Hey guys=2C Anybody on-list close enough to come to North/Western NC next weekend? The= Triumph Club of the Carolinas annual event 'The Gathering' is at Sheldon V= ineyards in Dobson=2C NC. Info at www.triumphclub.org. It's a 3 day event=2C but Friday is mostly a self-guided tour aroun= d some nice mountain and foot-hill back roads and Sunday morning is a reall= y fun auto-cross. The main car show is all day Saturday of course. Just to = be clear=2C this is April 15=2C 16=2C & 17. The vineyard is about 10 miles = south of the NC/VA line on I-77. Maybe reply if you might be there. I will be as long as the weather is nice= . I think I'll drive the Spit this year. Sloane [😊] 69-Six 72-Spit --_7ab0351d-ad10-4b59-a90b-2cd21c9d0d3f_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I=E2=80=99ll be there! =3B Got to get out of thi= s Ohio snow.

=3B

Marty

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Subject: [6pack] LBC Show in North/Western NC next weekend

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Hey guys=2C =3B
Anybody on-list close enough to come to North/Western NC next weekend? = =3B The Triumph Club of the Carolinas annual event 'The Gathering' is at Sh= eldon Vineyards in Dobson=2C NC. Info at www.triumphclub.org. It's a 3 day event=2C but Friday is mostly a self-= guided tour around some nice mountain and foot-hill back roads and Sunday m= orning is a really fun auto-cross. The main car show is all day Saturday of= course. Just to be clear=2C this is April 15=2C 16=2C &=3B 17. The vineyard is about 10 miles south of the = NC/VA line on I-77.

Maybe reply if you might be there. I will be as long as the weather is n= ice. I think I'll drive the Spit this year. =3B

Sloane 3D"&amp=3B#X1f60a"

69-Six

72-Spit

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I justworked up the courage to go jack i= n up again and look at said slave (me) and change the position of the rod.S= ad thing is I had a fender bender in our good car (98 Maxima) and it won't = start because of the frame being bent, the trunk floorbeing bent AND the my= sterious "safety feature" of the fuel pump not pumping to keep fire from ha= ppening.This is only the sixth week that we've been jerked around between S= tate Farm and Gerber Glass and Collisionrepair being told it is twice more = expensive to repair than it's worth ($2,000). =C2=A0We have run up a horren= douscar rental bill above the part the "Good Neighbors"will pay. =C2=A0So, = gotta get Leyland's French Blue curse reliable enoughto travel within a 15 = mile radius. =C2=A0And I'm (expletive dleted) 67 years old with bad hips. = =C2=A0 I DO appreciate the input though. =20 On Sunday, April 10, 2016 7:21 AM, Dale wrote: =20 John The normal hole to use is the center hole.=C2=A0=20 If you have had to add fluid after bleeding then where did the fluid go?=C2= =A0 Check to see where the fluid went. One thought here is to safely jack the car up and see if you have excessive= movement in the clutch fork. This can be done with the slave rod disconnec= ted from the arm. A small piece of pipe may help for leverage to see if you= feel a catch in the movement.=C2=A0 If so then you may have a broken pin i= n the clutch fork. Dale From: John Summers via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>=20 Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 9:47 PM Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave =20 I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) =C2=A0I changed my clutch slave c= ylinder and bled it. =C2=A0Went for a drive andafter sitting in a drive thr= ough a few minutes had a heck of a time getting it in gear. =C2=A0I learned= a long time agonot to take the car out of gear in situations like that. = =C2=A0After some crunching of gears I got home. =C2=A0On adviceof one more = experienced than me I re-bled the thing with my son pushing the pedal and m= e under the car.=C2=A0Finally after seeing no more air bubbles and having a= good amount of resistance I went for a short drive.Returning home and abou= t to turn into my driveway I had to crunch the gears again. =C2=A0More flui= d was added and=C2=A0more pumping etc. I felt confident. =C2=A0I got to the= end of my street today before I had to do a U turn and come home.I wonder = whats wrong? =C2=A0 =C2=A0There are different spots on the rod into the sla= ve and frankly I don't remember=C2=A0which hole I have it set at. =C2=A0Wou= ld changing that make a difference? =C2=A0Should I go to the hole nearer th= eslave or father away, should it come to that. =C2=A0Ideas, opinions, praye= rs?=C2=A0John Summers, =C2=A0Jacksonville Florida'74 TR 6 Thanks folks. _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack hoo.com =20 ------=_Part_387993_79825306.1460322351486 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

everybody, it is a brand= new slave, though installed several months ago, so I doubt that is the&nbs= p;problem. I just

worked up the courage to go jack in up again and look at said slave (me= ) and change the position of the rod.

Sad thing is I had a fender bender in our good car (98 Max= ima) and it won't start because of the frame being bent, the trunk floor

being bent = AND the mysterious "safety feature" of the fuel pump not pumping to keep fi= re from happening.

This is only the sixth week that we've been jerked around between= State Farm and Gerber Glass and Collision

repair being told it is twice more expens= ive to repair than it's worth ($2,000). We have run up a horrendous

car rental= bill above the part the "Good Neighbors"will pay. So, gotta get Leyl= and's French Blue curse reliable enough

to travel within a 15 mile radius. And= I'm (expletive dleted) 67 years old with bad hips. I DO appreciate = the input though.

On Sunday, April 10, 2016 7:21 AM, Dale <tpdwinch@yahoo.com> w= rote:

John

The normal hole to use is the center hole.

If you have had to add fluid after bleeding then where did t= he fluid go? Check to see where the fluid went.

One thought here is to safely jack the car up and see if you have excess= ive movement in the clutch fork. This can be done with the slave rod discon= nected from the arm. A small piece of pipe may help for leverage to see if = you feel a catch in the movement. If so then you may have a broken pi= n in the clutch fork.

Dale

From: John Summers = via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.t= eam.net>
Sent:<= /span> Saturday, April 9, 2016 9:47 PM
Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave<= br clear=3D"none">

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I'm wo= ndering if there is anyone there:)) I changed my clutch slave cylinde= r and bled it. Went for a drive and

after sitting in a drive thro= ugh a few minutes had a heck of a time getting it in gear. I learned = a long time ago

not to take the car out of gear in situations like that= . After some crunching of gears I got home. On advice

of on= e more experienced than me I re-bled the thing with my son pushing the peda= l and me under the car.

Finally after seeing no more air bubbles = and having a good amount of resistance I went for a short drive.

Return= ing home and about to turn into my driveway I had to crunch the gears again= . More fluid was added and

more pumping etc. I felt confide= nt. I got to the end of my street today before I had to do a U turn a= nd come home.

I wonder whats wrong? There are different sp= ots on the rod into the slave and frankly I don't remember

which = hole I have it set at. Would changing that make a difference? S= hould I go to the hole nearer the

slave or father away, should it come = to that. Ideas, opinions, prayers?

John Summers, Jack= sonville Florida

'74 TR 6

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Why I ask is that if it is on the wrong side of the bracket it would shorten= your activation throw by almost an inch. This would then explain the sympt= oms you have posted. I have done things like this in the past. Dale Sent from my iPad > On Apr 10, 2016, at 5:05 PM, John Summers wrote: >=20 > everybody, it is a brand new slave, though installed several months ago, s= o I doubt that is the problem. I just > worked up the courage to go jack in up again and look at said slave (me) a= nd change the position of the rod. > Sad thing is I had a fender bender in our good car (98 Maxima) and it won'= t start because of the frame being bent, the trunk floor > being bent AND the mysterious "safety feature" of the fuel pump not pumpin= g to keep fire from happening. > This is only the sixth week that we've been jerked around between State Fa= rm and Gerber Glass and Collision > repair being told it is twice more expensive to repair than it's worth ($2= ,000). We have run up a horrendous > car rental bill above the part the "Good Neighbors"will pay. So, gotta ge= t Leyland's French Blue curse reliable enough > to travel within a 15 mile radius. And I'm (expletive dleted) 67 years ol= d with bad hips. I DO appreciate the input though. >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Sunday, April 10, 2016 7:21 AM, Dale wrote: >=20 >=20 > John >=20 > The normal hole to use is the center hole. =20 >=20 > If you have had to add fluid after bleeding then where did the fluid go? C= heck to see where the fluid went. >=20 > One thought here is to safely jack the car up and see if you have excessiv= e movement in the clutch fork. This can be done with the slave rod disconnec= ted from the arm. A small piece of pipe may help for leverage to see if you f= eel a catch in the movement. If so then you may have a broken pin in the cl= utch fork. >=20 >=20 > Dale >=20 >=20 > From: John Summers via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> > To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>=20 > Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 9:47 PM > Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave >=20 > I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) I changed my clutch slave cylin= der and bled it. Went for a drive and > after sitting in a drive through a few minutes had a heck of a time gettin= g it in gear. I learned a long time ago > not to take the car out of gear in situations like that. After some crunc= hing of gears I got home. On advice > of one more experienced than me I re-bled the thing with my son pushing th= e pedal and me under the car.=20 > Finally after seeing no more air bubbles and having a good amount of resis= tance I went for a short drive. > Returning home and about to turn into my driveway I had to crunch the gear= s again. More fluid was added and=20 > more pumping etc. I felt confident. I got to the end of my street today b= efore I had to do a U turn and come home. > I wonder whats wrong? There are different spots on the rod into the sla= ve and frankly I don't remember=20 > which hole I have it set at. Would changing that make a difference? Shou= ld I go to the hole nearer the > slave or father away, should it come to that. Ideas, opinions, prayers?=20= > John Summers, Jacksonville Florida > '74 TR 6 >=20 > Thanks folks. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >=20 > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >=20 > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tpdwinch@y= ahoo.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-20FFF385-25A1-4572-BBC9-CAD772E1E0A9 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

John

Just a thought, are you sure tha= t you put the slave cylinder back on in the same place from where it came ou= t of?

Why I ask is that if it is on the wrong side of the bracket it would s= horten your activation throw by almost an inch. This would then explai= n the symptoms you have posted.

I have done things like this in the past.

= Dale

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 10, 2016, at 5:05 PM, Joh= n Summers <rivers2hills@yahoo.c= om> wrote:

everybody, it is a brand new slave, though installed several months= ago, so I doubt that is the problem. I just
worked up the courage to go jack in up ag= ain and look at said slave (me) and change the position of the rod.
Sad thing is I had a fender be= nder in our good car (98 Maxima) and it won't start because of the frame bei= ng bent, the trunk floor
being bent AND the mysterious "safety feature" of the fuel pu= mp not pumping to keep fire from happening.
This is only the sixth week that we've bee= n jerked around between State Farm and Gerber Glass and Collision
repair being told it i= s twice more expensive to repair than it's worth ($2,000). We have run= up a horrendous
car rental bill above the part the "Good Neighbors"will pay. So= , gotta get Leyland's French Blue curse reliable enough
to travel within a 15 mile rad= ius. And I'm (expletive dleted) 67 years old with bad hips. I D= O appreciate the input though.

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On Sunday, April 10, 2016 7:21 AM, Dale <tpdwinch@yahoo.com> wrote:

John

The normal hole to use i= s the center hole.

If you have had to add fluid a= fter bleeding then where did the fluid go? Check to see where the flui= d went.

One thought here is to safely jack the car up a= nd see if you have excessive movement in the clutch fork. This can be done w= ith the slave rod disconnected from the arm. A small piece of pipe may help f= or leverage to see if you feel a catch in the movement. If so then you= may have a broken pin in the clutch fork.

Dale

From: John Summers via 6= pack <6pack@autox.team.net>= ;
To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2= 016 9:47 PM
Subject:= [6pack] My darned clutch slave

I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) = I changed my clutch slave cylinder and bled it. Went for a drive and
after sitting in a drive through a few minutes had a heck of a time gettin= g it in gear. I learned a long time ago
not to take the car out of g= ear in situations like that. After some crunching of gears I got home.= On advice
of one more experienced than me I re-bled the thing with= my son pushing the pedal and me under the car.
Finally after seeing= no more air bubbles and having a good amount of resistance I went for a sho= rt drive.
Returning home and about to turn into my driveway I had to crun= ch the gears again. More fluid was added and
more pumping etc= . I felt confident. I got to the end of my street today before I had t= o do a U turn and come home.
I wonder whats wrong? There are= different spots on the rod into the slave and frankly I don't remember = ;
which hole I have it set at. Would changing that make a differenc= e? Should I go to the hole nearer the
slave or father away, should i= t come to that. Ideas, opinions, prayers?
John Summers, = Jacksonville Florida
'74 TR 6

Thanks folks.

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Dale, I usually over do it with safety, a jack under the frame and at least two

I uno, are they called jack stands, have notches in the post that supports the

weight should anything happen. It's tight enough between the ground and the car

and I have a big head. Don't want it flattened:))

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Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622152588402 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2016 09:14:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from smtp-out-so.shaw.ca (smtp-out-so.shaw.ca [64.59.136.137]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4855D25888B2 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Mon, 11 Apr 2016 07:30:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cds009.dcs.int.inet ([10.0.141.116]) by shaw.ca with SMTP id pboka0HQ3BLFmpbolaks5n; Mon, 11 Apr 2016 07:23:51 -0600 s=s20150330; t=1460381031; bh=GK1Y/lmqrptiGdIcZkFyIIuw9brQqNhpk9iPl+KgNhY=; h=Date:From:To:In-Reply-To:Subject; b=lHZjdJ5RM2V1oYlwO+nUtSzMmYGrOBe4Fxy+r7u0N9hV4cI94lG2gYS5DmnlucDdK D3jQ01bkn08DkeQ7948/9Kdsk+b6qbj3J7+lwpX4sswzW5LAGh9apEjPivuWMH2glY esT515+FSs4dGn+B2hL0PgH5AZEq9tsTxSjWVP087yPXPZ16Lf0bkM6WHG9EdQyWVx TLTm/8f8oMD7qI0xDSLbAPbzQS5BxEwo8xA2ASg/L50PzBB/t0LyEhFBmJ6iyPa+QY murhmbA/V/3NmxBA2+Aa0FPXxo/qaIyXtrZLKHYSA+jala1JTvp+w+F0f4xSRVMgcU c0qHhEvG6xjfA== 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi John=20 First: Dale's right. If yo had to add fluid and re-bleed the system after y= ou'd just bled it, where did the fluid go? The clutch hydraulic system is v= ery short so it won't be hard to find. Make sure you pull back the carpet i= n the foot well and check the master cylinder inside the firewall. That's w= here you're most likely to see the leak.=20 If, when you say you added fluid, you really mean that you re-bled it just = for the sake of trying it gain, and you are certain that there is no fluid = leak or air in the system, then the hydraulic system is not the problem and= the clutch most probably is. I wrote a lengthy posting about this a few mo= nths ago in response to someone's similar symptoms: Clutch works OK when it= 's cold, but fails when it gets warm. The problem, barring a hydraulic issu= e, is the clutch pressure plate. They've been known to fail when they get h= ot due to poor metallurgy. I know of what I speak...trust me.=20 Use the middle hole on the release lever.=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: 6pack-request@autox.team.net=20 To: 6pack@autox.team.net=20 Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 4:13:58 AM=20 Subject: 6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 3=20 Send 6pack mailing list submissions to=20 6pack@autox.team.net=20 To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit=20 http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack=20 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to=20 6pack-request@autox.team.net=20 You can reach the person managing the list at=20 6pack-owner@autox.team.net=20 When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific=20 than "Re: Contents of 6pack digest..."=20 Today's Topics:=20 1. Loctite 234227 LOC51048 Moly Paste Anti-Seize Compound:=20 Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific (anabil007)=20 2. Re: 6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 2 (Ed McGuirk)=20 3. My darned clutch slave (John Summers)=20 4. LBC Show in North/Western NC next weekend (im sloane)=20 5. Re: My darned clutch slave (Dale)=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------=20 Message: 1=20 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 11:46:14 -0700=20 From: anabil007 =20 To: 6pack@autox.team.net=20 Subject: [6pack] Loctite 234227 LOC51048 Moly Paste Anti-Seize=20 Compound: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific=20 This stuff works great, of course you will have enough to do all the hub sp= lines in the known universe.=20 I still have 90% left ?=20 > http://www.amazon.com/Loctite-234227-LOC51048-Anti-Seize-Compound/dp/B001= HWBSJW/ref=3Dsr_1_25?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1460227433&sr=3D8-25&keywords=3Dspline= +lubricant =20 "Life is too short to drive boring cars"=20 Bill Pugh=20 1957 TR3 "Casper"?=20 TS16765L=20 Wallace, CA=20 anabil007@comcast.net?=20 -------------- next part --------------=20 An HTML attachment was scrubbed...=20 URL: =20 ------------------------------=20 Message: 2=20 Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2016 18:10:06 -0400=20 From: Ed McGuirk =20 To: 6pack@autox.team.net=20 Subject: Re: [6pack] 6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 2=20 I don't know what the correct spec is but my general rule is that if it=20 is supposed to move, use grease; and if it is not supposed to move use=20 anti-seize. ( I get kind of annoyed at the people who demand only=20 grease where it should be anti-seize. And generally anti-seize is a very=20 poor grease substitute on moving parts.)=20 ed=20 However I believe the trunnion is supposed to use oil so what do I know?=20 On 4/9/2016 2:00 PM, 6pack-request@autox.team.net wrote:=20 > Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 22:43:32 -0400=20 > From: ron landis =20 > To: 6pack@autox.team.net=20 > Subject: [6pack] Wire wheel grease=20 >=20 > Listers Any recommendations for the type of lube to put on splines of wir= e wheels would be appreciated=20 >=20 > Thanks=20 > Ron=20 >=20 >=20 ------------------------------=20 Message: 3=20 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 01:47:33 +0000 (UTC)=20 From: John Summers =20 To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>=20 Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave=20 Message-ID:=20 <513783005.85365.1460252853724.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>=20 I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) ?I changed my clutch slave cylind= er and bled it. ?Went for a drive andafter sitting in a drive through a few= minutes had a heck of a time getting it in gear. ?I learned a long time ag= onot to take the car out of gear in situations like that. ?After some crunc= hing of gears I got home. ?On adviceof one more experienced than me I re-bl= ed the thing with my son pushing the pedal and me under the car.?Finally af= ter seeing no more air bubbles and having a good amount of resistance I wen= t for a short drive.Returning home and about to turn into my driveway I had= to crunch the gears again. ?More fluid was added and?more pumping etc. I f= elt confident. ?I got to the end of my street today before I had to do a U = turn and come home.I wonder whats wrong? ? ?There are different spots on th= e rod into the slave and frankly I don't remember?which hole I have it set = at. ?Would changing that make a difference? ?Should I go to the hole nearer= theslave or father awa=20 y, should it come to that. ?Ideas, opinions, prayers??John Summers, ?Jackso= nville Florida'74 TR 6=20 Thanks folks.=20 -------------- next part --------------=20 An HTML attachment was scrubbed...=20 URL: =20 ------------------------------=20 Message: 4=20 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 02:57:05 +0000=20 From: im sloane =20 To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>=20 Subject: [6pack] LBC Show in North/Western NC next weekend=20 Message-ID:=20 =20 Hey guys,=20 Anybody on-list close enough to come to North/Western NC next weekend? The = Triumph Club of the Carolinas annual event 'The Gathering' is at Sheldon Vi= neyards in Dobson, NC. Info at www.triumphclub.org. It's a 3 day event, but Friday is mostly a self-guided tour around som= e nice mountain and foot-hill back roads and Sunday morning is a really fun= auto-cross. The main car show is all day Saturday of course. Just to be cl= ear, this is April 15, 16, & 17. The vineyard is about 10 miles south of th= e NC/VA line on I-77.=20 Maybe reply if you might be there. I will be as long as the weather is nice= . I think I'll drive the Spit this year.=20 Sloane [😊]=20 69-Six=20 72-Spit=20 -------------- next part --------------=20 An HTML attachment was scrubbed...=20 URL: =20 -------------- next part --------------=20 A non-text attachment was scrubbed...=20 Name: OutlookEmoji-&#X1f60a.png=20 Type: image/png=20 Size: 488 bytes=20 Desc: OutlookEmoji-&#X1f60a.png=20 URL: =20 ------------------------------=20 Message: 5=20 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 11:18:53 +0000 (UTC)=20 From: Dale =20 To: John Summers , "6pack@autox.team.net"=20 <6pack@autox.team.net>=20 Subject: Re: [6pack] My darned clutch slave=20 Message-ID:=20 <1422265785.153944.1460287133679.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>=20 John=20 The normal hole to use is the center hole.?=20 If you have had to add fluid after bleeding then where did the fluid go?? C= heck to see where the fluid went.=20 One thought here is to safely jack the car up and see if you have excessive= movement in the clutch fork. This can be done with the slave rod disconnec= ted from the arm. A small piece of pipe may help for leverage to see if you= feel a catch in the movement.? If so then you may have a broken pin in the= clutch fork.=20 Dale=20 From: John Summers via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>=20 To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>=20 Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 9:47 PM=20 Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave=20 I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) ?I changed my clutch slave cylind= er and bled it. ?Went for a drive andafter sitting in a drive through a few= minutes had a heck of a time getting it in gear. ?I learned a long time ag= onot to take the car out of gear in situations like that. ?After some crunc= hing of gears I got home. ?On adviceof one more experienced than me I re-bl= ed the thing with my son pushing the pedal and me under the car.?Finally af= ter seeing no more air bubbles and having a good amount of resistance I wen= t for a short drive.Returning home and about to turn into my driveway I had= to crunch the gears again. ?More fluid was added and?more pumping etc. I f= elt confident. ?I got to the end of my street today before I had to do a U = turn and come home.I wonder whats wrong? ? ?There are different spots on th= e rod into the slave and frankly I don't remember?which hole I have it set = at. ?Would changing that make a difference? ?Should I go to the hole nearer= theslave or father awa=20 y, should it come to that. ?Ideas, opinions, prayers??John Summers, ?Jackso= nville Florida'74 TR 6=20 Thanks folks.=20 _______________________________________________=20 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive=20 6pack@autox.team.net=20 http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack=20 hoo.com=20 -------------- next part --------------=20 An HTML attachment was scrubbed...=20 URL: =20 ------------------------------=20 Subject: Digest Footer=20 _______________________________________________=20 6pack mailing list=20 6pack@autox.team.net=20 http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack=20 ------------------------------=20 End of 6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 3=20 ************************************=20 ------=_Part_33210594_621736949.1460381030008 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; colo= r: #000000'>Hi John

First: Dale's right. If yo had to ad= d fluid and re-bleed the system after you'd just bled it, where did the flu= id go? The clutch hydraulic system is very short so it won't be hard to fin= d. Make sure you pull back the carpet in the foot well and check the master= cylinder inside the firewall. That's where you're most likely to see the l= eak.

If, when you say you added fluid, you really = mean that you re-bled it just for the sake of trying it gain, and you are c= ertain that there is no fluid leak or air in the system, then the hydraulic= system is not the problem and the clutch most probably is. I wrote a lengt= hy posting about this a few months ago in response to someone's similar sym= ptoms: Clutch works OK when it's cold, but fails when it gets warm. The pro= blem, barring a hydraulic issue, is the clutch pressure plate. They've been= known to fail when they get hot due to poor metallurgy. I know of what I s= peak...trust me.

Use the middle hole on the = release lever.

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= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 11:46:14 -0700
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Subject: [6pack] Loctite 234227 L= OC51048 Moly Paste Anti-Seize
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This stuff works great, of course you will have enough to do all the hu= b splines in the known universe.

I still have 90% left ?

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To: 6pack@autox.team.net
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I= don't know what the correct spec is but my general rule is that if it
= is supposed to move, use grease; and if it is not supposed to move use
= anti-seize. ( I get kind of annoyed at the people who demand only grease where it should be anti-seize. And generally anti-seize is a very <= br>poor grease substitute on moving parts.)

ed

However I beli= eve the trunnion is supposed to use oil so what do I know?

On 4/9/20= 16 2:00 PM, 6pack-request@autox.team.net wrote:
> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 20= 16 22:43:32 -0400
> From: ron landis <rdltr250@sbcglobal.net>> To: 6pack@autox.team.net
> Subject: [6pack] Wire wheel grease<= br>>
> Listers Any recommendations for the type of lube to = put on splines of wire wheels would be appreciated
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> Thanks> Ron
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 01:47:33 +0000 (UTC)
F= rom: John Summers <rivers2hills@yahoo.com>
To: "6pack@autox.team.n= et" <6pack@autox.team.net>
Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave=
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I'm wondering if there is anyone the= re:)) ?I changed my clutch slave cylinder and bled it. ?Went for a drive an= dafter sitting in a drive through a few minutes had a heck of a time gettin= g it in gear. ?I learned a long time agonot to take the car out of gear in = situations like that. ?After some crunching of gears I got home. ?On advice= of one more experienced than me I re-bled the thing with my son pushing the= pedal and me under the car.?Finally after seeing no more air bubbles and h= aving a good amount of resistance I went for a short drive.Returning home a= nd about to turn into my driveway I had to crunch the gears again. ?More fl= uid was added and?more pumping etc. I felt confident. ?I got to the end of = my street today before I had to do a U turn and come home.I wonder whats wr= ong? ? ?There are different spots on the rod into the slave and frankly I d= on't remember?which hole I have it set at. ?Would changing that make a diff= erence? ?Should I go to the hole nearer theslave or father awa
y, = should it come to that. ?Ideas, opinions, prayers??John Summers, ?Jacksonvi= lle Florida'74 TR 6
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From: im sloane <im_sloane@hotmail.com>
To:= "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>
Subject: [6pack] LB= C Show in North/Western NC next weekend
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Hey guys,
Anybody on-list close enough to come to North/Western NC n= ext weekend? The Triumph Club of the Carolinas annual event 'The Gath= ering' is at Sheldon Vineyards in Dobson, NC. Info at www.triumphclub.org&l= t;http://www.triumphclub.org>. It's a 3 day event, but Friday is mostly = a self-guided tour around some nice mountain and foot-hill back roads and S= unday morning is a really fun auto-cross. The main car show is all day Satu= rday of course. Just to be clear, this is April 15, 16, & 17. The viney= ard is about 10 miles south of the NC/VA line on I-77.

Maybe rep= ly if you might be there. I will be as long as the weather is nice. I think= I'll drive the Spit this year.

Sloane [&#X1f60a]

69-= Six

72-Spit

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From: Dale <tpdwinch@yahoo.com>
To: Joh= n Summers <rivers2hills@yahoo.com>, "6pack@autox.team.net"
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John
The normal hole to use is the center hole.?

If= you have had to add fluid after bleeding then where did the fluid go?? Che= ck to see where the fluid went.

One thought here is to safely jack t= he car up and see if you have excessive movement in the clutch fork. This c= an be done with the slave rod disconnected from the arm. A small piece of p= ipe may help for leverage to see if you feel a catch in the movement.? If s= o then you may have a broken pin in the clutch fork.

Dale

&nb= sp; From: John Summers via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.ne= t>
To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>
= Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 9:47 PM
Subject: [6pack] My da= rned clutch slave

I'm wondering if there is anyone ther= e:)) ?I changed my clutch slave cylinder and bled it. ?Went for a drive and= after sitting in a drive through a few minutes had a heck of a time getting= it in gear. ?I learned a long time agonot to take the car out of gear in s= ituations like that. ?After some crunching of gears I got home. ?On adviceo= f one more experienced than me I re-bled the thing with my son pushing the = pedal and me under the car.?Finally after seeing no more air bubbles and ha= ving a good amount of resistance I went for a short drive.Returning home an= d about to turn into my driveway I had to crunch the gears again. ?More flu= id was added and?more pumping etc. I felt confident. ?I got to the end of m= y street today before I had to do a U turn and come home.I wonder whats wro= ng? ? ?There are different spots on the rod into the slave and frankly I do= n't remember?which hole I have it set at. ?Would changing that make a diffe= rence? ?Should I go to the hole nearer theslave or father awa
y, s= hould it come to that. ?Ideas, opinions, prayers??John Summers, ?Jacksonvil= le Florida'74 TR 6
Thanks folks.
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A = little temperature change and suddenly what worked doesn=92t work = because things got heated up a bit. TR clutches can be touchy about = incompletely bled slave cylinders. Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle=20 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Apr 11, 2016, at 7:23 AM, COLIN THOM via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> = wrote: > Hi John >=20 > First: Dale's right. If yo had to add fluid and re-bleed the system = after you'd just bled it, where did the fluid go? The clutch hydraulic = system is very short so it won't be hard to find. Make sure you pull = back the carpet in the foot well and check the master cylinder inside = the firewall. That's where you're most likely to see the leak. >=20 > If, when you say you added fluid, you really mean that you re-bled it = just for the sake of trying it gain, and you are certain that there is = no fluid leak or air in the system, then the hydraulic system is not the = problem and the clutch most probably is. I wrote a lengthy posting about = this a few months ago in response to someone's similar symptoms: Clutch = works OK when it's cold, but fails when it gets warm. The problem, = barring a hydraulic issue, is the clutch pressure plate. They've been = known to fail when they get hot due to poor metallurgy. I know of what I = speak...trust me.=20 >=20 > Use the middle hole on the release lever. >=20 >=20 > From: 6pack-request@autox.team.net > To: 6pack@autox.team.net > Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 4:13:58 AM > Subject: 6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 3 >=20 > Send 6pack mailing list submissions to > 6pack@autox.team.net >=20 > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > 6pack-request@autox.team.net >=20 > You can reach the person managing the list at > 6pack-owner@autox.team.net >=20 > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of 6pack digest..." >=20 >=20 > Today's Topics: >=20 > 1. Loctite 234227 LOC51048 Moly Paste Anti-Seize Compound: > Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific (anabil007) > 2. Re: 6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 2 (Ed McGuirk) > 3. My darned clutch slave (John Summers) > 4. LBC Show in North/Western NC next weekend (im sloane) > 5. Re: My darned clutch slave (Dale) >=20 >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 11:46:14 -0700 > From: anabil007 > To: 6pack@autox.team.net > Subject: [6pack] Loctite 234227 LOC51048 Moly Paste Anti-Seize > Compound: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific > Message-ID: <733D9890-F01D-4FAE-8E3B-9566F080D802@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8" >=20 > This stuff works great, of course you will have enough to do all the = hub splines in the known universe. >=20 > I still have 90% left ? >=20 >=20 > > = http://www.amazon.com/Loctite-234227-LOC51048-Anti-Seize-Compound/dp/B001H= WBSJW/ref=3Dsr_1_25?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1460227433&sr=3D8-25&keywords=3Dspline= +lubricant >=20 >=20 > "Life is too short to drive boring cars" >=20 > Bill Pugh > 1957 TR3 "Casper"? > TS16765L > Wallace, CA > anabil007@comcast.net? >=20 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: = >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2016 18:10:06 -0400 > From: Ed McGuirk > To: 6pack@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [6pack] 6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 2 > Message-ID: <57097DBE.1030505@optonline.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dwindows-1252; format=3Dflowed >=20 > I don't know what the correct spec is but my general rule is that if = it=20 > is supposed to move, use grease; and if it is not supposed to move use=20= > anti-seize. ( I get kind of annoyed at the people who demand only=20 > grease where it should be anti-seize. And generally anti-seize is a = very=20 > poor grease substitute on moving parts.) >=20 > ed >=20 > However I believe the trunnion is supposed to use oil so what do I = know? >=20 > On 4/9/2016 2:00 PM, 6pack-request@autox.team.net wrote: > > Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 22:43:32 -0400 > > From: ron landis > > To: 6pack@autox.team.net > > Subject: [6pack] Wire wheel grease > > > > Listers Any recommendations for the type of lube to put on splines = of wire wheels would be appreciated > > > > Thanks > > Ron > > =20 > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 01:47:33 +0000 (UTC) > From: John Summers > To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> > Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave > Message-ID: > <513783005.85365.1460252853724.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8" >=20 > I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) ?I changed my clutch slave = cylinder and bled it. ?Went for a drive andafter sitting in a drive = through a few minutes had a heck of a time getting it in gear. ?I = learned a long time agonot to take the car out of gear in situations = like that. ?After some crunching of gears I got home. ?On adviceof one = more experienced than me I re-bled the thing with my son pushing the = pedal and me under the car.?Finally after seeing no more air bubbles and = having a good amount of resistance I went for a short drive.Returning = home and about to turn into my driveway I had to crunch the gears again. = ?More fluid was added and?more pumping etc. I felt confident. ?I got to = the end of my street today before I had to do a U turn and come home.I = wonder whats wrong? ? ?There are different spots on the rod into the = slave and frankly I don't remember?which hole I have it set at. ?Would = changing that make a difference? ?Should I go to the hole nearer = theslave or father awa > y, should it come to that. ?Ideas, opinions, prayers??John Summers, = ?Jacksonville Florida'74 TR 6 > Thanks folks. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: = >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 02:57:05 +0000 > From: im sloane > To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> > Subject: [6pack] LBC Show in North/Western NC next weekend > Message-ID: > = > =20 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" >=20 > Hey guys, > Anybody on-list close enough to come to North/Western NC next weekend? = The Triumph Club of the Carolinas annual event 'The Gathering' is at = Sheldon Vineyards in Dobson, NC. Info = atwww.triumphclub.org. It's a 3 day event, = but Friday is mostly a self-guided tour around some nice mountain and = foot-hill back roads and Sunday morning is a really fun auto-cross. The = main car show is all day Saturday of course. Just to be clear, this is = April 15, 16, & 17. The vineyard is about 10 miles south of the NC/VA = line on I-77. >=20 >=20 > Maybe reply if you might be there. I will be as long as the weather is = nice. I think I'll drive the Spit this year. >=20 >=20 > Sloane [😊] >=20 > 69-Six >=20 > 72-Spit >=20 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: = > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: OutlookEmoji-&#X1f60a.png > Type: image/png > Size: 488 bytes > Desc: OutlookEmoji-&#X1f60a.png > URL: = >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 11:18:53 +0000 (UTC) > From: Dale > To: John Summers , "6pack@autox.team.net" > <6pack@autox.team.net> > Subject: Re: [6pack] My darned clutch slave > Message-ID: > = <1422265785.153944.1460287133679.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8" >=20 > John > The normal hole to use is the center hole.?=20 >=20 > If you have had to add fluid after bleeding then where did the fluid = go?? Check to see where the fluid went. >=20 > One thought here is to safely jack the car up and see if you have = excessive movement in the clutch fork. This can be done with the slave = rod disconnected from the arm. A small piece of pipe may help for = leverage to see if you feel a catch in the movement.? If so then you may = have a broken pin in the clutch fork. >=20 > Dale >=20 > From: John Summers via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> > To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>=20 > Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 9:47 PM > Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave > =20 > I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) ?I changed my clutch slave = cylinder and bled it. ?Went for a drive andafter sitting in a drive = through a few minutes had a heck of a time getting it in gear. ?I = learned a long time agonot to take the car out of gear in situations = like that. ?After some crunching of gears I got home. ?On adviceof one = more experienced than me I re-bled the thing with my son pushing the = pedal and me under the car.?Finally after seeing no more air bubbles and = having a good amount of resistance I went for a short drive.Returning = home and about to turn into my driveway I had to crunch the gears again. = ?More fluid was added and?more pumping etc. I felt confident. ?I got to = the end of my street today before I had to do a U turn and come home.I = wonder whats wrong? ? ?There are different spots on the rod into the = slave and frankly I don't remember?which hole I have it set at. ?Would = changing that make a difference? ?Should I go to the hole nearer = theslave or father awa > y, should it come to that. ?Ideas, opinions, prayers??John Summers, = ?Jacksonville Florida'74 TR 6 > Thanks folks. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >=20 > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >=20 > Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tpdwinch@yahoo.com >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: = >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Subject: Digest Footer >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 6pack mailing list > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > End of 6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 3 > ************************************ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >=20 > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >=20 > Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/levilevi@comcast.net --Apple-Mail=_9979FB88-CB99-43AE-8EA5-5FD4A0AD1EB1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=windows-1252 Right = before you bolt the slave to the tranny bleed it by holding it in your = hand and tilt the bleed screw so its the highest point of the whole = assembly Takes a helper and some dexterity but if you leave a bit of air = in the slave (which can easily happen when its done on the car) it = compresses instead of the fluid being pushed when you push the pedal. A = little temperature change and suddenly what worked doesn=92t work = because things got heated up a bit. TR clutches can be touchy about = incompletely bled slave cylinders.

Bud Rolofson

Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)

71TR6 CC57365 (Good = 6)

71 Spitfire MK IV = Race Car #3

69 Spitfire MK III = (back up FE engine/dinghy car)

93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle

77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda = Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)

On Apr 11, 2016, at 7:23 AM, COLIN THOM via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> = wrote:

Hi = John

First: Dale's right. If yo had to add fluid and = re-bleed the system after you'd just bled it, where did the fluid go? = The clutch hydraulic system is very short so it won't be hard to find. = Make sure you pull back the carpet in the foot well and check the master = cylinder inside the firewall. That's where you're most likely to see the = leak.

If, when you say you added fluid, you = really mean that you re-bled it just for the sake of trying it gain, and = you are certain that there is no fluid leak or air in the system, then = the hydraulic system is not the problem and the clutch most probably is. = I wrote a lengthy posting about this a few months ago in response to = someone's similar symptoms: Clutch works OK when it's cold, but fails = when it gets warm. The problem, barring a hydraulic issue, is the clutch = pressure plate. They've been known to fail when they get hot due to poor = metallurgy. I know of what I speak...trust = me.

Use the middle hole on the release = lever.

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 11:46:14 = -0700
From: anabil007 <anabil007@comcast.net>
To:= 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: = [6pack] Loctite 234227 LOC51048 Moly Paste = Anti-Seize
        Compound:&nb= sp;       Amazon.com: Industrial & = Scientific
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This stuff works great, of course = you will have enough to do all the hub splines in the known = universe.

I still have 90% left ?

> http://www.amazon.com/Loctite-234227-LOC51= 048-Anti-Seize-Compound/dp/B001HWBSJW/ref=3Dsr_1_25?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D14= 60227433&sr=3D8-25&keywords=3Dspline+lubricant<http://www.amazon.com/Loctite-234227-LOC51= 048-Anti-Seize-Compound/dp/B001HWBSJW/ref=3Dsr_1_25?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D14= 60227433&sr=3D8-25&keywords=3Dspline+lubricant>

= "Life is too short to drive boring cars"

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1957 TR3 = "Casper"?
TS16765L
Wallace, CA
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I don't know what the correct spec is but my = general rule is that if it
is supposed to move, = use grease; and if it is not supposed to move use
anti-seize. ( I = get kind of annoyed at the people who demand only
grease where it should = be anti-seize. And generally anti-seize is a very
poor grease substitute = on moving parts.)

ed

However I believe the trunnion is = supposed to use oil so what do I know?

On 4/9/2016 2:00 PM, 6pack-request@autox.team.net<= /a> wrote:
> = Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 22:43:32 -0400
> From: ron landis <rdltr250@sbcglobal.net>
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> = Subject: [6pack] Wire wheel grease
>
> Listers Any = recommendations for the type of lube to put on splines of wire wheels = would be appreciated
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Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 = 01:47:33 +0000 (UTC)
From: John Summers <rivers2hills@yahoo.com>
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I'm wondering if there = is anyone there:)) ?I changed my clutch slave cylinder and bled it. = ?Went for a drive andafter sitting in a drive through a few minutes had = a heck of a time getting it in gear. ?I learned a long time agonot to = take the car out of gear in situations like that. ?After some crunching = of gears I got home. ?On adviceof one more experienced than me I re-bled = the thing with my son pushing the pedal and me under the car.?Finally = after seeing no more air bubbles and having a good amount of resistance = I went for a short drive.Returning home and about to turn into my = driveway I had to crunch the gears again. ?More fluid was added and?more = pumping etc. I felt confident. ?I got to the end of my street today = before I had to do a U turn and come home.I wonder whats wrong? ? ?There = are different spots on the rod into the slave and frankly I don't = remember?which hole I have it set at. ?Would changing that make a = difference? ?Should I go to the hole nearer theslave or father = awa
y, should it come to that. ?Ideas, opinions, prayers??John = Summers, ?Jacksonville Florida'74 TR 6
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From: im sloane <im_sloane@hotmail.com>
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Subje= ct: [6pack] LBC Show in North/Western NC next = weekend
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Hey= guys,
Anybody on-list close enough to come to North/Western NC next = weekend? The Triumph Club of the Carolinas annual event 'The = Gathering' is at Sheldon Vineyards in Dobson, NC. Info atwww.triumphclub.org<http://www.triumphclub.org>. = It's a 3 day event, but Friday is mostly a self-guided tour around some = nice mountain and foot-hill back roads and Sunday morning is a really = fun auto-cross. The main car show is all day Saturday of course. Just to = be clear, this is April 15, 16, & 17. The vineyard is about 10 miles = south of the NC/VA line on I-77.

Maybe reply if you might be = there. I will be as long as the weather is nice. I think I'll drive the = Spit this year.

Sloane = [&#X1f60a]

69-Six

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From: Dale <tpdwinch@yahoo.com>
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John
The normal = hole to use is the center hole.?

If you have had to = add fluid after bleeding then where did the fluid go?? Check to see = where the fluid went.

One thought here is to safely jack the car = up and see if you have excessive movement in the clutch fork. This can = be done with the slave rod disconnected from the arm. A small piece of = pipe may help for leverage to see if you feel a catch in the movement.? = If so then you may have a broken pin in the clutch = fork.

Dale

   From: John Summers = via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
= ;To: "6pack@autox.team.net" = <6pack@autox.team.net>
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Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch = slave

I'm wondering if there = is anyone there:)) ?I changed my clutch slave cylinder and bled it. = ?Went for a drive andafter sitting in a drive through a few minutes had = a heck of a time getting it in gear. ?I learned a long time agonot to = take the car out of gear in situations like that. ?After some crunching = of gears I got home. ?On adviceof one more experienced than me I re-bled = the thing with my son pushing the pedal and me under the car.?Finally = after seeing no more air bubbles and having a good amount of resistance = I went for a short drive.Returning home and about to turn into my = driveway I had to crunch the gears again. ?More fluid was added and?more = pumping etc. I felt confident. ?I got to the end of my street today = before I had to do a U turn and come home.I wonder whats wrong? ? ?There = are different spots on the rod into the slave and frankly I don't = remember?which hole I have it set at. ?Would changing that make a = difference? ?Should I go to the hole nearer theslave or father = awa
y, should it come to that. ?Ideas, opinions, prayers??John = Summers, ?Jacksonville Florida'74 TR 6
Thanks = folks.
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12 Apr 2016 22:48:54 +0000 Received: from BLUPR13MB0243.namprd13.prod.outlook.com ([10.162.93.149]) by BLUPR13MB0243.namprd13.prod.outlook.com ([10.162.93.149]) with mapi id 15.01.0453.029; Tue, 12 Apr 2016 22:48:54 +0000 To: Gene Holtzclaw Thread-Topic: [6pack] my darned clutch slave Thread-Index: AQHRlKm/XMXemtWml0eme86mk90qN5+G8aQK Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 22:48:54 +0000 References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US authentication-results: spf=softfail (sender IP is 25.152.68.59) header.d=none;hotmail.com; dmarc=fail action=none header.from=hotmail.com; received-spf: SoftFail (protection.outlook.com: domain of transitioning hotmail.com discourages use of 25.152.68.59 as permitted sender) x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-tmn: [Ej99JR6euj7hD5OqqbEka+vk2IPhN46U] x-eopattributedmessage: 0 x-forefront-antispam-report: CIP:25.152.68.59; IPV:NLI; CTRY:GB; EFV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(98900003); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BY2NAM01HT115; H:BLUPR13MB0243.namprd13.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:SoftFail; MLV:ovrnspm; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 285938ec-683c-438d-5ed7-08d363249ff1 x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(5061506196)(5061507196); SRVR:BY2NAM01HT115; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(432015012)(82015046); SRVR:BY2NAM01HT115; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:BY2NAM01HT115; x-forefront-prvs: 0910AAF391 FILETIME=[8007BFC0:01D1950D] Cc: COLIN THOM , "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] my darned clutch slave From: James_ via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3634933051145516953== Content-Language: en-US boundary="_000_BLUPR13MB02438897E75D49BA0BBF694280950BLUPR13MB0243namp_" --_000_BLUPR13MB02438897E75D49BA0BBF694280950BLUPR13MB0243namp_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I found this video. http://youtu.be/Vwjrh4ezwdU Of course would not be as easy on the car but could be done. there is this = guy too: http://youtu.be/YlnlMuYzLRE BTW: I was thinking of changing my brakes to DOT 5 silicone. (Yes, I cleaned out= old DOT 4 and replaced all lines and rear cylinders) Would DOT 5 be good for clutches too? Don't see why not. (Hope I didn't open a whole new can of worms) =97Sent from my Atari 2600=97 On Apr 12, 2016, at 4:45 AM, Gene Holtzclaw via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net= I had a old school Triumph mechanic show me years ago what worked best for = him, and now me. He would leave the top off the clutch master. Top the syst= em off with fluid, then slowly push in on the slave cylinder rod several st= rokes before putting the pin in at the clutch fork. No bleeding needed, no = help needed. All air traveled up the the clutch master cylinder Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Droid k@autox.team.net>> wrote: Right before you bolt the slave to the tranny bleed it by holding it in you= r hand and tilt the bleed screw so its the highest point of the whole assem= bly Takes a helper and some dexterity but if you leave a bit of air in the = slave (which can easily happen when its done on the car) it compresses inst= ead of the fluid being pushed when you push the pedal. A little temperature= change and suddenly what worked doesn=92t work because things got heated u= p a bit. TR clutches can be touchy about incompletely bled slave cylinders. Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Apr 11, 2016, at 7:23 AM, COLIN THOM via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> wrote: Hi John First: Dale's right. If yo had to add fluid and re-bleed the system after y= ou'd just bled it, where did the fluid go? The clutch hydraulic system is v= ery short so it won't be hard to find. Make sure you pull back the carpet i= n the foot well and check the master cylinder inside the firewall. That's w= here you're most likely to see the leak. If, when you say you added fluid, you really mean that you re-bled it just = for the sake of trying it gain, and you are certain that there is no fluid = leak or air in the system, then the hydraulic system is not the problem and= the clutch most probably is. I wrote a lengthy posting about this a few mo= nths ago in response to someone's similar symptoms: Clutch works OK when it= 's cold, but fails when it gets warm. The problem, barring a hydraulic issu= e, is the clutch pressure plate. They've been known to fail when they get h= ot due to poor metallurgy. I know of what I speak...trust me. Use the middle hole on the release lever. ________________________________ Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 4:13:58 AM Subject: 6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 3 Send 6pack mailing list submissions to To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to You can reach the person managing the list at When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of 6pack digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Loctite 234227 LOC51048 Moly Paste Anti-Seize Compound: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific (anabil007) 2. Re: 6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 2 (Ed McGuirk) 3. My darned clutch slave (John Summers) 4. LBC Show in North/Western NC next weekend (im sloane) 5. Re: My darned clutch slave (Dale) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 11:46:14 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Loctite 234227 LOC51048 Moly Paste Anti-Seize Compound: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scien= tific 90-F01D-4FAE-8E3B-9566F080D802@comcast.net>> This stuff works great, of course you will have enough to do all the hub sp= lines in the known universe. I still have 90% left ? > http://www.amazon.com/Loctite-234227-LOC51048-Anti-Seize-Compound/dp/B001= HWBSJW/ref=3Dsr_1_25?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1460227433&sr=3D8-25&keywords=3Dspline= +lubricant "Life is too short to drive boring cars" Bill Pugh 1957 TR3 "Casper"? TS16765L Wallace, CA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2016 18:10:06 -0400 Subject: Re: [6pack] 6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 2 ne.net>> I don't know what the correct spec is but my general rule is that if it is supposed to move, use grease; and if it is not supposed to move use anti-seize. ( I get kind of annoyed at the people who demand only grease where it should be anti-seize. And generally anti-seize is a very poor grease substitute on moving parts.) ed However I believe the trunnion is supposed to use oil so what do I know? x.team.net> wrote: > Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 22:43:32 -0400 > Subject: [6pack] Wire wheel grease > > Listers Any recommendations for the type of lube to put on splines of w= ire wheels would be appreciated > > Thanks > Ron > > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 01:47:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave Message-ID: <513783005.85365.1460252853724.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) ?I changed my clutch slave cylind= er and bled it. ?Went for a drive andafter sitting in a drive through a few= minutes had a heck of a time getting it in gear. ?I learned a long time ag= onot to take the car out of gear in situations like that. ?After some crunc= hing of gears I got home. ?On adviceof one more experienced than me I re-bl= ed the thing with my son pushing the pedal and me under the car.?Finally af= ter seeing no more air bubbles and having a good amount of resistance I wen= t for a short drive.Returning home and about to turn into my driveway I had= to crunch the gears again. ?More fluid was added and?more pumping etc. I f= elt confident. ?I got to the end of my street today before I had to do a U = turn and come home.I wonder whats wrong? ? ?There are different spots on th= e rod into the slave and frankly I don't remember?which hole I have it set = at. ?Would changing that make a difference? ?Should I go to the hole nearer= theslave or father awa y, should it come to that. ?Ideas, opinions, prayers??John Summers, ?Jacks= onville Florida'74 TR 6 Thanks folks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Dale .team.net>> Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 9:47 PM Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) ?I changed my clutch slave cylind= er and bled it. ?Went for a drive andafter sitting in a drive through a few= minutes had a heck of a time getting it in gear. ?I learned a long time ag= onot _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack ail.com --_000_BLUPR13MB02438897E75D49BA0BBF694280950BLUPR13MB0243namp_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I found this video. http:= //youtu.be/Vwjrh4ezwdU

Of course would not be as easy on the car but could be done. there is = this guy too: http://youtu.be/= YlnlMuYzLRE

BTW:

I was thinking of changing my brakes to DOT 5 silicone. (Yes, I cleane= d out old DOT 4 and replaced all lines and rear cylinders)

Would DOT 5 be good for clutches too? Don't see why not.

(Hope I didn't open a whole new can of worms)

=97Sent from my Atari 2600=97

On Apr 12, 2016, at 4:45 AM, Gene Holtzclaw via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> wrote:

I had a old school Triumph mechanic show me years ago what worked best= for him, and now me. He would leave the top off the clutch master. Top the= system off with fluid, then slowly push in on the slave cylinder rod sever= al strokes before putting the pin in at the clutch fork. No bleeding needed, no help needed. All air travele= d up the the clutch master cylinder

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE = Droid

On Apr 11, 2016 11:34 PM, Bud R via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> wrote:

Right before you bolt the slave to the = tranny bleed it by holding it in your hand and tilt the bleed screw so its = the highest point of the whole assembly Takes a helper and some dexterity b= ut if you leave a bit of air in the slave (which can easily happen when its done on the car) it compresses ins= tead of the fluid being pushed when you push the pedal. A little temperatur= e change and suddenly what worked doesn=92t work because things got heated = up a bit. TR clutches can be touchy about incompletely bled slave cylinders.

Bud Rolofson

Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)

71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)

71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3

69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)

93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle

77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)

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   2. Re: 6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 2 (Ed McGuirk)
   3. My darned clutch slave (John Summers)
   4. LBC Show in North/Western NC next weekend (im sloane)
   5. Re: My darned clutch slave (Dale)

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Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 11:46:14 -0700
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To: 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Loctite 234227 LOC51048 Moly Paste Anti-Seize
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This stuff works great, of course you will have enough to do all the hub sp= lines in the known universe.

I still have 90% left ?

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Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2016 18:10:06 -0400
From: Ed McGuirk <emcguirk@opt= online.net>
To: 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] 6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 2
1030505@optonline.net>

I don't know what the correct spec is but my general rule is that if it&nbs= p;
is supposed to move, use grease; and if it is not supposed to move use = ;
anti-seize. ( I get kind of annoyed at the people who demand only&nbs= p;
grease where it should be anti-seize. And generally anti-seize is a very&nb= sp;
poor grease substitute on moving parts.)

ed

However I believe the trunnion is supposed to use oil so what do I know?
On 4/9/2016 2:00 PM, 6= pack-request@autox.team.net wrote:
> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 22:43:32 -0400
> From: ron landis <rdltr25= 0@sbcglobal.net>
> To: 6pack@autox.team.net<= /a>
> Subject: [6pack] Wire wheel grease
>
> Listers Any recommendations for the type of lube to put on spli= nes of wire wheels would be appreciated
>
> Thanks
> Ron
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 01:47:33 +0000 (UTC)
From: John Summers <rivers2hil= ls@yahoo.com>
To: "6pack@autox.team.net&= quot; <6pack@autox.team.net&= gt;
Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave
Message-ID:
        <513783005.85365.146= 0252853724.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) ?I changed my clutch slave cylind= er and bled it. ?Went for a drive andafter sitting in a drive through a few= minutes had a heck of a time getting it in gear. ?I learned a long time ag= onot to take the car out of gear in situations like that. ?After some crunching of gears I got home. ?On ad= viceof one more experienced than me I re-bled the thing with my son pushing= the pedal and me under the car.?Finally after seeing no more air bubbles a= nd having a good amount of resistance I went for a short drive.Returning home and about to turn into my driveway= I had to crunch the gears again. ?More fluid was added and?more pumping et= c. I felt confident. ?I got to the end of my street today before I had to d= o a U turn and come home.I wonder whats wrong? ? ?There are different spots on the rod into the slave and fr= ankly I don't remember?which hole I have it set at. ?Would changing that ma= ke a difference? ?Should I go to the hole nearer theslave or father awa
y, should it come to that. ?Ideas, opinions, prayers??John Summers, ?= Jacksonville Florida'74 TR 6
Thanks folks.
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From: im sloane <im_sloane@hotm= ail.com>
To: "6pack@autox.team.net&= quot; <6pack@autox.team.net&= gt;
Subject: [6pack] LBC Show in North/Western NC next weekend
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Hey guys,
Anybody on-list close enough to come to North/Western NC next weekend? &nbs= p;The Triumph Club of the Carolinas annual event 'The Gathering' is at Shel= don Vineyards in Dobson, NC. Info atwww.triumphclub.org<http://= www.triumphclub.org>. It's a 3 day event, but Friday is mostly a self-guided tour around some ni= ce mountain and foot-hill back roads and Sunday morning is a really fun aut= o-cross. The main car show is all day Saturday of course. Just to be clear,= this is April 15, 16, & 17. The vineyard is about 10 miles south of the NC/VA line on I-77.

Maybe reply if you might be there. I will be as long as the weather is nice= . I think I'll drive the Spit this year.

Sloane [&#X1f60a]

69-Six

72-Spit

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Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 11:18:53 +0000 (UTC)
From: Dale <tpdwinch@yahoo.com= >
To: John Summers <rivers2hills= @yahoo.com>, "6pa= ck@autox.team.net"
        <6pack@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [6pack] My darned clutch slave
Message-ID:
        <1422265785.153944= .1460287133679.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

John
The normal hole to use is the center hole.?

If you have had to add fluid after bleeding then where did the fluid go?? C= heck to see where the fluid went.

One thought here is to safely jack the car up and see if you have excessive= movement in the clutch fork. This can be done with the slave rod disconnec= ted from the arm. A small piece of pipe may help for leverage to see if you= feel a catch in the movement.? If so then you may have a broken pin in the clutch fork.

Dale

   From: John Summers via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
To: "6pack@autox.team.ne= t" <6pack@autox.team.ne= t>
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 9:47 PM
Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave

I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) ?I changed my clutch slave cylind= er and bled it. ?Went for a drive andafter sitting in a drive through a few= minutes had a heck of a time getting it in gear. ?I learned a long time ag= onot

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John Summers --- I'm coming in l= ate on this one and you could've already solved the issue of not getting fu= ll clutch release. Even so, I'll tell you a sure-fire way of bleeding the s= ystem.

Assume = first of all that the bleed nipple is uppermost when the SC is bolted to th= e engine back plate.

Connect = a length of clear plastic tubing (sometimes referred to as surgical tubing)= to the bleed nipple.

Remove = the cap on the CMC reservoir so you can observe the fluid level. Top it up = before and during as necessary, before proceeding.

Run the open end of this tubing up to the top and into the = reservoir, holding it place with a clip, wire, or whatever is handy. <= /div>

Open the bleed nipple about a half = turn.

As you work= the clutch pedal (with your right foot) while standing outside the door, y= ou'll be able to see the fluid and any air bubbles come up the tube as it g= oes back into the reservoir. Any air bubbles will find their way out as the= fluid goes back down the pipe to the SC.

Do this stroking enough times to be sure all= the air is expelled. No fluid is being "wasted" so pump away!

<= div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460397221124_16819" dir=3D"ltr">

Close off the ble= ed nipple and check for pedal firmness. Pinch off the tubing at the bottom = and top to keep from making a mess, and remove the tubing.

If your problem wasn= 't air in the system, let us know what you found!

Dick

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How is Sally and the TR? You will always stand out in = my mind for Triumphfest 2004 in Lake Tahoe. You really gave my prospect = to buy Triumph a complete going over and got a thumbs up. I have never = regretted the buy and am still enjoying the car immensely. My 18 year = old son just got checked out in it a couple of day=92s ago and is = smoother at the wheel than me. I am now on Cape Cod and had my old club = from Texas (TTR) here last summer when they were on one of their famous = 17 day 6000 mile caravans. Was great to see everyone. Wish we lived a = little close and could come by and =93rock for a spell=94.=20 On Apr 12, 2016, at 8:28 PM, Sally or Dick Taylor via 6pack = <6pack@autox.team.net> wrote: > John Summers --- I'm coming in late on this one and you could've = already solved the issue of not getting full clutch release. Even so, = I'll tell you a sure-fire way of bleeding the system.=20 > Assume first of all that the bleed nipple is uppermost when the SC is = bolted to the engine back plate.=20 >=20 > Connect a length of clear plastic tubing (sometimes referred to as = surgical tubing) to the bleed nipple.=20 >=20 > Remove the cap on the CMC reservoir so you can observe the fluid = level. Top it up before and during as necessary, before proceeding. >=20 > Run the open end of this tubing up to the top and into the reservoir, = holding it place with a clip, wire, or whatever is handy.=20 >=20 > Open the bleed nipple about a half turn.=20 >=20 > As you work the clutch pedal (with your right foot) while standing = outside the door, you'll be able to see the fluid and any air bubbles = come up the tube as it goes back into the reservoir. Any air bubbles = will find their way out as the fluid goes back down the pipe to the SC. >=20 > Do this stroking enough times to be sure all the air is expelled. No = fluid is being "wasted" so pump away!=20 >=20 > Close off the bleed nipple and check for pedal firmness. Pinch off the = tubing at the bottom and top to keep from making a mess, and remove the = tubing. =20 >=20 > If your problem wasn't air in the system, let us know what you found!=20= >=20 > Dick > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >=20 > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >=20 > Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/stevekirsis@yahoo.com >=20 --Apple-Mail=_AF24F4B5-8101-4970-A216-63A03C2C4E22 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=windows-1252 Richard, Glad to see you are giving your expert = advice and are still around the block. How is Sally and the TR? You will = always stand out in my mind for Triumphfest 2004 in Lake Tahoe. You = really gave my prospect to buy Triumph a complete going over and got a = thumbs up. I have never regretted the buy and am still enjoying the car = immensely. My 18 year old son just got checked out in it a couple of = day=92s ago and is smoother at the wheel than me. I am now on Cape Cod = and had my old club from Texas (TTR) here last summer when they were on = one of their famous 17 day 6000 mile caravans. Was great to see = everyone. Wish we lived a little close and could come by and =93rock for = a spell=94.

On Apr 12, 2016, at 8:28 PM, Sally or = Dick Taylor via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> = wrote:

John Summers = --- I'm coming in late on this one and you could've already solved the = issue of not getting full clutch release. Even so, I'll tell you a = sure-fire way of bleeding the system.
Assume first of all that = the bleed nipple is uppermost when the SC is bolted to the engine back = plate.

Connect a length of clear = plastic tubing (sometimes referred to as surgical tubing) to the bleed = nipple.

Remove the cap on the CMC = reservoir so you can observe the fluid level. Top it up before and = during as necessary, before proceeding.

Run the open end of this = tubing up to the top and into the reservoir, holding it place with a = clip, wire, or whatever is handy.

Open the bleed nipple about = a half turn.

As you work the = clutch pedal (with your right foot) while standing outside the door, = you'll be able to see the fluid and any air bubbles come up the tube as = it goes back into the reservoir. Any air bubbles will find their way out = as the fluid goes back down the pipe to the SC.

Do this = stroking enough times to be sure all the air is expelled. No fluid is = being "wasted" so pump away!

Close off the = bleed nipple and check for pedal firmness. Pinch off the tubing at the = bottom and top to keep from making a mess, and remove the tubing. =

If your problem wasn't air in the system, let us know what = you found!

Dick
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From: James_ via 6pack=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 5:48 PM To: Gene Holtzclaw=20 Cc: COLIN THOM ; 6pack@autox.team.net=20 Subject: Re: [6pack] my darned clutch slave I found this video. http://youtu.be/Vwjrh4ezwdU Of course would not be as easy on the car but could be done. there is = this guy too: http://youtu.be/YlnlMuYzLRE BTW: I was thinking of changing my brakes to DOT 5 silicone. (Yes, I cleaned = out old DOT 4 and replaced all lines and rear cylinders) Would DOT 5 be good for clutches too? Don't see why not.=20 (Hope I didn't open a whole new can of worms) =97Sent from my Atari 2600=97 On Apr 12, 2016, at 4:45 AM, Gene Holtzclaw via 6pack = <6pack@autox.team.net> wrote: I had a old school Triumph mechanic show me years ago what worked best = for him, and now me. He would leave the top off the clutch master. Top = the system off with fluid, then slowly push in on the slave cylinder rod = several strokes before putting the pin in at the clutch fork. No = bleeding needed, no help needed. All air traveled up the the clutch = master cylinder Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Droid On Apr 11, 2016 11:34 PM, Bud R via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> = wrote: Right before you bolt the slave to the tranny bleed it by holding it = in your hand and tilt the bleed screw so its the highest point of the = whole assembly Takes a helper and some dexterity but if you leave a bit = of air in the slave (which can easily happen when its done on the car) = it compresses instead of the fluid being pushed when you push the pedal. = A little temperature change and suddenly what worked doesn=92t work = because things got heated up a bit. TR clutches can be touchy about = incompletely bled slave cylinders. Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle=20 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Apr 11, 2016, at 7:23 AM, COLIN THOM via 6pack = <6pack@autox.team.net> wrote: Hi John=20 First: Dale's right. If yo had to add fluid and re-bleed the = system after you'd just bled it, where did the fluid go? The clutch = hydraulic system is very short so it won't be hard to find. Make sure = you pull back the carpet in the foot well and check the master cylinder = inside the firewall. That's where you're most likely to see the leak. If, when you say you added fluid, you really mean that you re-bled = it just for the sake of trying it gain, and you are certain that there = is no fluid leak or air in the system, then the hydraulic system is not = the problem and the clutch most probably is. I wrote a lengthy posting = about this a few months ago in response to someone's similar symptoms: = Clutch works OK when it's cold, but fails when it gets warm. The = problem, barring a hydraulic issue, is the clutch pressure plate. = They've been known to fail when they get hot due to poor metallurgy. I = know of what I speak...trust me.=20 Use the middle hole on the release lever. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - From: 6pack-request@autox.team.net To: 6pack@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 4:13:58 AM Subject: 6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 3 Send 6pack mailing list submissions to 6pack@autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to 6pack-request@autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at 6pack-owner@autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more = specific than "Re: Contents of 6pack digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Loctite 234227 LOC51048 Moly Paste Anti-Seize Compound: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific (anabil007) 2. Re: 6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 2 (Ed McGuirk) 3. My darned clutch slave (John Summers) 4. 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On 4/9/2016 2:00 PM, 6pack-request@autox.team.net wrote: > Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 22:43:32 -0400 > From: ron landis > To: 6pack@autox.team.net > Subject: [6pack] Wire wheel grease > > Listers Any recommendations for the type of lube to put on = splines of wire wheels would be appreciated > > Thanks > Ron > =20 > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 01:47:33 +0000 (UTC) From: John Summers To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave Message-ID: = <513783005.85365.1460252853724.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8" I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) ?I changed my clutch = slave cylinder and bled it. ?Went for a drive andafter sitting in a = drive through a few minutes had a heck of a time getting it in gear. ?I = learned a long time agonot to take the car out of gear in situations = like that. ?After some crunching of gears I got home. ?On adviceof one = more experienced than me I re-bled the thing with my son pushing the = pedal and me under the car.?Finally after seeing no more air bubbles and = having a good amount of resistance I went for a short drive.Returning = home and about to turn into my driveway I had to crunch the gears again. = ?More fluid was added and?more pumping etc. I felt confident. ?I got to = the end of my street today before I had to do a U turn and come home.I = wonder whats wrong? ? ?There are different spots on the rod into the = slave and frankly I don't remember?which hole I have it set at. ?Would = changing that make a difference? ?Should I go to the hole nearer = theslave or father awa y, should it come to that. ?Ideas, opinions, prayers??John = Summers, ?Jacksonville Florida'74 TR 6 Thanks folks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sloane [😊] 69-Six 72-Spit -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: = -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: OutlookEmoji-&#X1f60a.png Type: image/png Size: 488 bytes Desc: OutlookEmoji-&#X1f60a.png URL: = ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 11:18:53 +0000 (UTC) From: Dale To: John Summers , "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] My darned clutch slave Message-ID: = <1422265785.153944.1460287133679.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8" John The normal hole to use is the center hole.?=20 If you have had to add fluid after bleeding then where did the = fluid go?? Check to see where the fluid went. One thought here is to safely jack the car up and see if you have = excessive movement in the clutch fork. This can be done with the slave = rod disconnected from the arm. A small piece of pipe may help for = leverage to see if you feel a catch in the movement.? If so then you may = have a broken pin in the clutch fork. Dale From: John Summers via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>=20 Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 9:47 PM Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave =20 I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) ?I changed my clutch = slave cylinder and bled it. ?Went for a drive andafter sitting in a = drive through a few minutes had a heck of a time getting it in gear. ?I = learned a long time agonot=20 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/jattr6@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/dave@ranteer.com ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01D1955C.5EE682F0 charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

absolutely positively yes!

From: James_ via 6pack

Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 5:48 PM

To: Gene Holtzclaw

Cc: COLIN=20 THOM ; 6pack@autox.team.net

Subject: Re: [6pack] my darned clutch = slave

I found this video. http://youtu.be/Vwjrh4ezwdU

Of course would not be as easy on the car but could be done. there = is this=20 guy too: http://youtu.be/YlnlMuYzLRE

BTW:

I was thinking of changing my brakes to DOT 5 silicone. (Yes, I = cleaned out=20 old DOT 4 and replaced all lines and rear cylinders)

Would DOT 5 be good for clutches too? Don't see why not.

(Hope I didn't open a whole new can of worms)

=97Sent from my Atari 2600=97

On Apr 12, 2016, at 4:45 AM, Gene Holtzclaw via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>=20 wrote:

I had a old school Triumph mechanic show me years ago what worked = best=20 for him, and now me. He would leave the top off the clutch master. Top = the=20 system off with fluid, then slowly push in on the slave cylinder rod = several=20 strokes before putting the pin in at the clutch fork. No bleeding = needed, no=20 help needed. All air traveled up the the clutch master cylinder

Sent from my Verizon Wireless = 4G LTE=20 Droid

On Apr 11, 2016 11:34 PM, Bud R via 6pack = <6pack@autox.team.net> = wrote:

Right before you bolt the slave = to the=20 tranny bleed it by holding it in your hand and tilt the bleed screw = so its=20 the highest point of the whole assembly Takes a helper and some = dexterity=20 but if you leave a bit of air in the slave (which can easily happen = when its=20 done on the car) it compresses instead of the fluid being pushed = when you=20 push the pedal. A little temperature change and suddenly what worked = doesn=92t=20 work because things got heated up a bit. TR clutches can be touchy = about=20 incompletely bled slave cylinders.

Bud=20 Rolofson

Extreme=20 Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)

71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)
71=20 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
69=20 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
93=20 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle
77=20 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit = Bike)