From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Tue May 3 12:34:12 2016 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809012588527 for ; Tue, 3 May 2016 12:34:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from nm36.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm36.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E4D25886A3 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Tue, 3 May 2016 10:24:44 -0600 (MDT) t=1462292682; bh=a3feV+eNw5I8oBAwddq+O6ixL0cpgVaR9Ugu3D9oO2U=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:References:From:Subject; b=XgMUTPRwmGi+Zk9Fz/zkowNvk0bWRngjuXbhs7NxhoCm3MDo7KlYNlzRX53bF3JDz1vc3SMoJE1EA3CLOS4qK9yJ9pR2s3P9rLsKqzn7JzrSymiMq6fiDU0lzXYU1kmfIJja1LJU2ACTKZULpSSdanohHG0QM+ASLRi7tvC8oU0ZZoaorus9aVUJ7m18QzpMNCwzIujNkVVnMOCvIVEy5adA8geEflwsig3Vwwsq3hjEJVMFiOWXCVjXvmzgnzyN/+1F4WmWOdv8G46GyRF9WFYMKUg2K2IKAt1E+gMU2KF0dDKGbc3dSUwC1k5/RxUM7sKIR/5eCDIkWbERDB9IVg== Received: from [98.139.215.142] by nm36.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 May 2016 16:24:42 -0000 Received: from [98.139.215.250] by tm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 May 2016 16:24:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1063.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 May 2016 16:24:42 -0000 Wmw.KAHfqXrHorc4uf_VsA0y8etMLl7wvAp81JmeE5kKNJi13kwT011ZL5QljLqd6MF7e0xGBzTb o_XRgZsY7i48Cwsv5IKFzq.joY_SSzjWQuEv3FWtZ4syHTClMa7805B_AhSEexKFbL_2UXegxUZA svWaymHQmE7ogaKlCUXRE0pGa8XH0JZrAwkzBmKhi2pclHU6YMwBvLXI6qyzvvFQBL1g.rb8QX11 .qH5vQ_eF06GvZAwxk8MXSF_DfvYnpFZdbDiF1L1CbqPK4Zyc2kh7H.krK8g0d6T0celofgLZrz8 R0TcyU0DEuQ7y.aUJZ8bA5vwWf3FalVOMh0Iiy7OGCgEuozoma4IK8C7le1fw3vfrFb6EGsOjkYe Mdmww1DK1l2a8yK6wrtBB8SN_DIPY9RV_m6HeQarP.q9PNoNT_DVfKgANj4jdqaRERoRhe19m4.8 KEFsdc9hY0Q-- Received: from jws106228.mail.bf1.yahoo.com by sendmailws151.mail.bf1.yahoo.com; Tue, 03 May 2016 16:24:42 +0000; 1462292682.312 Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 16:23:31 +0000 (UTC) To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> References: <1565190034.7015000.1462292611783.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: [6pack] Rear Addco Sway bar Installation From: Yahoo via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8837528160887482829== boundary="----=_Part_7014999_242669003.1462292611781" ------=_Part_7014999_242669003.1462292611781 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello gents: =C2=A0The addco rear bar end links come with more parts (Speci= fically steel washers) then shown in their installation diagram and instruc= tions. Anybody out there been there done that. =C2=A0How did you proceed? Addco tech support doesn't answer phone or respond to other means of commun= ication. Thank you, Bruce Simms73 Tr6 ------=_Part_7014999_242669003.1462292611781 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello gents:  The addco rear bar end links come with more parts (Spec= ifically steel washers) then shown in their installation diagram and instru= ctions.

Anybody out there been there = done that.  How did you proceed?

Addco tech support doesn't answer phone or respond to other means of commu= nication.

<= div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462292098401_3113">Thank you,

Bruce Simms
73 Tr6
------=_Part_7014999_242669003.1462292611781-- --===============8837528160887482829== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack --===============8837528160887482829==-- From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Wed May 4 22:46:48 2016 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 253EA2588F80 for ; Wed, 4 May 2016 22:46:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from nm42-vm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm42-vm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.87.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F482589211 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Wed, 4 May 2016 22:16:50 -0600 (MDT) t=1462421816; bh=Hfj+81wgtQlrZu25ua7fk1rRF8dOW3Hpj9Fu5g1LS/g=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:References:From:Subject; b=MeuA2mtkM22KWLXKJXubU+N1n4FWdkxVPME7f6cfQQkaPGi2fei9TeJ+CgfPNNIDDuygIAtZtVf9CtPi3BcbHQkNIekiaSLfC8eIBFmZDooTecs1Xl3ULLXNdLU6K4PBFKS/eBGGZmCy3e2VTntUOYmIOsuAmTamFWTVKFJC9W49lcPMFyS7L0BZJLHUIRCwQA9F3AD1S0rYeQrDgTwkvPHZpEFMkmjECeONZ/b3bi2OR188uR5kyClk24hDBvD+eic1UgZpvl3W7Pv1mo4OYJ1D2x5Gsz33Ti7ho6X5ZLrYVVwF37dSNMaqMCwM1YJLvPmf4aY9Myp8YB1gykMp+w== Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm42.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 May 2016 04:16:56 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.184] by nm42.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 May 2016 04:14:00 -0000 Received: from [98.139.214.32] by tm20.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 May 2016 04:14:00 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.200] by tm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 May 2016 04:14:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1009.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 May 2016 04:14:00 -0000 zouaEikvqGq71T_8gGqP1DqRUz9g97g98U3YPWF89SOFXBLtHOhJTwJ65Fb_vkDCPh6i3x.W8ADU Ir3C3rvxyYqkYuZv4ofGpUOR2nxH3NtRS0NF8uWlFfXOWWyqJUJvCg9rdLRZ51jiE1bE6dq6A.cg ABaLfIyp0pFZE1mwTw8EQKNHWXEjecSVL9Eg4_8hXL_bySkXnML.ktVYbBPsLgiohFoyCmT3argR tpA8L5ypbEfTYlXC.._XyK9vSzlj90xdp9JRBwvOdddOO5sEVyV7q0SQ8gOa34NJHQxTsf0sFsiM CVrKHFuAXaX3HSMb2DeBmJAEZ8eNBaK5NLa_qUeKo_GEKPphuJ5qa4TSxT.rjepGn.A_sO.jCR2Q nCKuVVTFduTYiyQdkdxjA.fRGBLSrmZdazfVyBGAgow3y2tBfsILv6HYnLcyL4grJaPTwrp9lx1A Al8wkmtfJgznEG7qzEh0m9uYf73gFUGaAPDpr Received: from jws106226.mail.bf1.yahoo.com by sendmailws125.mail.bf1.yahoo.com; Thu, 05 May 2016 04:13:59 +0000; 1462421639.462 Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 04:13:20 +0000 (UTC) To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> References: <2131633507.8109768.1462421600751.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: [6pack] addco rear sway bar question From: Yahoo via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0775294954593830271== boundary="----=_Part_8109767_329988492.1462421600749" ------=_Part_8109767_329988492.1462421600749 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I need to say that Addco tech support did get back to me. =C2=A0 John W sen= t a picture of how end link should be set up.which is more accurate then in= structions that came with bar. =C2=A0=C2=A0Happy to send this pic to anyone= who wants it. =C2=A0Did end up with extra washers. Cheers, =C2=A0Bruce Simms 73TR6 ------=_Part_8109767_329988492.1462421600749 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I need to say that Addco tech support did get back to me.   John W sent a picture of how end link should be set up.
which is more accurate then instructions that came with bar.   
Happy to send this pic to anyone who wants it.  Did end up with extra washers.

Cheers,  Bruce Simms 73TR6
------=_Part_8109767_329988492.1462421600749-- --===============0775294954593830271== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack --===============0775294954593830271==-- From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Wed May 4 23:12:52 2016 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8592588FFC for ; Wed, 4 May 2016 23:12:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from nm47.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm47.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.87.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FDF925893A7 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Wed, 4 May 2016 22:33:13 -0600 (MDT) t=1462422788; bh=8T3bYYk36f2QIq++I7/iBQvEWuiSUqEa7uw3WRATJxw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:References:From:Subject; b=fYxmMOf/a6XF69+m067Pf9cuDpcNFmXvkCSkYIoCuHhPP3QQEY+nkrxZUFvc6sSrCLDWJXU0iFSfxmU0HNNtRxty3fO/bXnL2ZQc6/R/b5P/G8LHLKQ5ZXI0my7dXSsnJvaMdZd08cDKL7F2Sw8hf38L0FiwUSkHtBsdn2Qzh/HejYFuKCcbb1CD6vVT0//p536hXe+BWW0/nf429pAAmCJaP8tDEYq/zeA2kHJVWPVsTj0azbF4L61DMZE+wJ7N6Epzv46GAvE7E+k+wVSElvqV8lyXXv4WNxpN2dqtvJKOpvpTl16Qb7ulyQeHWdJsGfpQZ8OnU8ZQNoaCyJGHQQ== Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm47.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 May 2016 04:33:08 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.184] by nm47.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 May 2016 04:30:17 -0000 Received: from [98.139.214.32] by tm20.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 May 2016 04:30:17 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.232] by tm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 May 2016 04:30:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1041.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 May 2016 04:30:17 -0000 86ZPa5CYKoDmU5gH6ShBQMl6EWN2pyNWbkZFXEYRO4z0HtnK2xHqLWpn20ugh9V.5TZPXNEDTUwc LlhuV2MQ_nnh3J1Pc0rB7lf70rBbN1cjb04OHoBoxdv1TMMKRhZC4B9s5fgUGbGDHl8_F3qxGPqY rygHXa2Am_MoJPfWN9hOKpKDcSRaaCi9cdED1JyZe2PNc8Ny6LJRRgF1BqNHy8scoXw_7lCq6LtI Wn3NIHxyqX0y5DKOWNdVkTAVBn0oqwDfUotiWgxpKGorHXPEH0CRYque.OddvEaJVCMraj41Aaby Hwjc6HY_iCZCwjA32ZToKbyav9bxFU0yEX5B6Q4496Ju9WGwP_YrWeOTDJLkJ3Tm5oOuGBPOJDzu 69P8Q64JhSLyPnRvS7el.YaZ2qQoXgl2tsl7sUB.51OZ6U5OhVbswOehmRAracC1xwVuhArlKyfn D7ZC5fiL8.XWTecZfgmgzH8HN6yE- Received: from jws106123.mail.bf1.yahoo.com by sendmailws122.mail.bf1.yahoo.com; Thu, 05 May 2016 04:28:37 +0000; 1462422517.303 Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 04:27:47 +0000 (UTC) To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> References: <1040991666.8326424.1462422467149.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: [6pack] Rota wheels for TR6 From: Yahoo via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4118795961048521505== boundary="----=_Part_8326423_1564746807.1462422467146" ------=_Part_8326423_1564746807.1462422467146 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have =C2=A0have the Rota 16x7 =C2=A0wheels. =C2=A0 Nicely made, balanced = easily. =C2=A0 =C2=A0great looks, =C2=A0 Only downside is you need tuner nu= ts and socket. =C2=A0 No, not panasports, but I'm not racing. 20565R16 tires. =C2=A0 harder to find, but available as a luxury performanc= e touring tire. =C2=A0 Mine are Kumho. Easily the best upgrade to my car. Cheers, Bruce Simms 73 Tr6 ------=_Part_8326423_1564746807.1462422467146 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have  have the Rota 16x7  wheels.   Nicely made, balanced easily.    great looks,   Only downside is you need tuner nuts and socket.   No, not panasports, but I'm not racing.

20565R16 tires.   harder to find, but available as a luxury performance touring tire.   Mine are Kumho.

Easily the best upgrade to my car.

Cheers, Bruce Simms 73 Tr6
------=_Part_8326423_1564746807.1462422467146-- --===============4118795961048521505== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack --===============4118795961048521505==-- From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Sat May 7 23:17:45 2016 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0368F2588D67 for ; Sat, 7 May 2016 23:17:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from nm32-vm1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm32-vm1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.216.224]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F952588D8A for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Fri, 6 May 2016 19:50:47 -0600 (MDT) t=1462585847; bh=vXTTlZWvfI5hpzwkavQxz9uncFkprW7eq8wPampbOsE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:References:From:Subject; b=t0qu9XFrH47ZyNihkTnd/v6Oa52BAA8vCJ8MAfDqZYclEtJSkwxpQnuaNBERIetdeHvCl4QEXlyXi4SQUnZxM1BUZ6PNCfyAy17OzFbivOlzEFLr99sMst1mWpsMNpmJizjxUgNxBTOd9a249J6/hbPBZz3vJLB8nPSNtgpTv3KU3NNP9pWcVv77RTtnWkXADmRut7RntUH9lE8bQbXHyVGsrcQWb/OT8xI/A04tUQ6j8If5ofsQlFFUx8EFGueHTqBoKE8eNZYBihIqRsjtSB/R52C8kUFcWrVNcpTAg7P8/kYHKXDPA2256IqZHSOeT7ToLg2jSNh85MYm9iebbQ== Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm32.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2016 01:50:47 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.56] by nm32.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2016 01:47:56 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.208] by tm1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2016 01:47:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1016.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2016 01:47:56 -0000 HB.hnRFl6VAgFDu44alL7d56AYjrSPA__8ZmJve9C98K_nP61Ep2tgWs7yCzP49FDiMGLuFfc.8R 5kFxe9Lw_juT47rbcIDbDLKIb_pagQBY7HwwHxNvycsk6FTznXAi2yvryQC28.Ey65e8qxe62O8T a1vm7SYtEJQxTGB5s3s.j7aVgfNcjkw.easUmEZRAMwjJ93v.PsUB625WXED3dOJKO9EjD8AsTmf 2zQTHC_lIg_E.eQRs_A7DmN38jvaEwBuuwmCMoaFGyPaVcd7TCzOFpEeDaAQIIBrvW11p12jOcDP zdZnNP03HgRNJ1OS.rCPBfL0nsKvxDHNZCflc8D8EHG0COEHxK78JvTdsfl9mKOn3KgD6cv8yVv3 Xvi1kkFi9GV2NBrMMhMkUse7MnJJTpJ4u4ahCh.m5DaT7yhG2K2abWal3SkriY17SbH58v3IEnI. s5wUYQAtRS29tZ4px2BDaNzNl0MhwAsFFov4L5Dc1eUz9KVy93l8Y4KHN4SwMb65apr6_NXn08.n xV5buGZtNNt5yoyAc29eOleXkgk5gBt9G Received: from jws10763.mail.gq1.yahoo.com by sendmailws125.mail.gq1.yahoo.com; Sat, 07 May 2016 01:47:56 +0000; 1462585676.047 Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 01:47:55 +0000 (UTC) To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> References: <1222998781.162536.1462585675279.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: [6pack] May 6 From: John Summers via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3079719218653819602== boundary="----=_Part_162535_1244758854.1462585675275" ------=_Part_162535_1244758854.1462585675275 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a copy of my message on the triumphs list.We've all heard the phras= e, "well, I've got good news and I've got bad news", right. =C2=A0A few wee= ks agosome one mentioned that maybe the reason my TR 6 wouldn't go into any= gear while running mightbe because of low oil within the transmission. =C2= =A0So, he good news is that I was so far under my carthat nobody could see = a 67 year old man crying. =C2=A0The bad news is first that the nut on the s= ide ofthe transmission case had been mis handled so many times that it was = nicked and bungled up that no size socketcould get a grip on it. =C2=A0This= caused my creative mind to churn and churn,,,,,and churn. =C2=A0I decidedt= hat the rubber-like tapered re-stoppers I use to recork my wine bottles, if= I drilled a hole into and through one,bought a hand squeeze siphon from Pe= pBoys, ran the hose from that into the stopper and the other endinto a bott= le of oil and squeeze and squeeze until I thought the oil level were correc= t. =C2=A0Of course this would be a trickyoperation what with having to remo= ve the drain bolt. =C2=A0Rubber plugs and oil; just imagine the possibiliti= es!! =C2=A0Oil came outand into the hose it should have been going out of a= s well as all over my hand and driveway. =C2=A0I would say that yesthere wa= s a good possibility the oil was low judging by the small amount on the dri= veway. =C2=A0Maybe 1/2 to 3/4 cupbefore it turned into a drip. =C2=A0Now, h= ow much oil to get it back to the proper level? =C2=A0Question #2, do you t= hink=C2=A0that the same fountain pump I used to drain the pan under my leak= y kitchen drain would have the same easepumping oil as it did water? =C2=A0= (I guess I could try it first) =C2=A0Ok, along with oil came what appears t= o be a 3/8" magnetwith shavings on both ends. =C2=A0I'm at a loss on that o= ther than to say it did it's job of collecting fragments of my gears.If the= pump idea doesn't work I'm not sure what to do. =C2=A0The fill nut,,,,,I'v= e tried everything and can't get anything close=C2=A0enough to the base of = the nut to really get a good grip. =C2=A0I've thought about taking the tran= smission cover off and=C2=A0coming at it from the inside of the "cockpit". = =C2=A0Dangit!!! the weather is so nice here in Jacksonville now=C2=A0AND I = have to get THIS car on the road because since March 1st we've been driving= a rental due to troublewith the '98 Maxima. This has been an up and down d= ay emotionally. =C2=A0Wife disabled 16 years, oldest son withthree bulging = discs and NO cartilage in one knee,,,,been in the E.R. SEVEN times in the l= ast month and the youngerson's 2000 Subaru Impreza in my garage with a blow= n engine,,,,,,,,,,,,,and my hips are killing me. =C2=A0Might be quickerto j= ust have the car fall on me:))) =C2=A0Not. Sorry that I'm so long winded, y= ou ought to see me on Facebook, or, if it=C2=A0is ok with those who run thi= s list you could take a look at my "art" done on computer. It's at:=C2=A0ht= tp://www.saatchiart.com/account/artworks/219699=C2=A0 Thanks all. ------=_Part_162535_1244758854.1462585675275 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This is a copy of my message on the triumphs list.
We've all heard the phrase, "well, I've got good news a= nd I've got bad news", right.  A few weeks ago
some one mentioned that maybe th= e reason my TR 6 wouldn't go into any gear while running might
be because of low oil= within the transmission.  So, he good news is that I was so far under= my car
t= hat nobody could see a 67 year old man crying.  The bad news is first = that the nut on the side of
the transmission case had been mis handled so many times= that it was nicked and bungled up that no size socket
could get a grip on it.  = ;This caused my creative mind to churn and churn,,,,,and churn.  I dec= ided
that= the rubber-like tapered re-stoppers I use to recork my wine bottles, if I = drilled a hole into and through one,
bought a hand squeeze siphon from PepBoys, ran = the hose from that into the stopper and the other end
into a bottle of oil and squee= ze and squeeze until I thought the oil level were correct.  Of course = this would be a tricky
operation what with having to remove the drain bolt.  Ru= bber plugs and oil; just imagine the possibilities!!  Oil came out
and into the= hose it should have been going out of as well as all over my hand and driv= eway.  I would say that yes
there was a good possibility the oil was low judgin= g by the small amount on the driveway.  Maybe 1/2 to 3/4 cup
before it turned i= nto a drip.  Now, how much oil to get it back to the proper level? &nb= sp;Question #2, do you think 
that the same fountain pump I used to drain the p= an under my leaky kitchen drain would have the same ease
pumping oil as it did water= ?  (I guess I could try it first)  Ok, along with oil came what a= ppears to be a 3/8" magnet
with shavings on both ends.  I'm at a loss on that o= ther than to say it did it's job of collecting fragments of my gears.
=
If the pump id= ea doesn't work I'm not sure what to do.  The fill nut,,,,,I've tried = everything and can't get anything close 
enough to the base of the nut to reall= y get a good grip.  I've thought about taking the transmission cover o= ff and 
coming at it from the inside of the "cockpit".  Dangit!!! the weat= her is so nice here in Jacksonville now 
AND I have to get THIS car on the road= because since March 1st we've been driving a rental due to trouble
with the '98 Max= ima. This has been an up and down day emotionally.  Wife disabled 16 y= ears, oldest son with
three bulging discs and NO cartilage in one knee,,,,been in th= e E.R. SEVEN times in the last month and the younger
son's 2000 Subaru Impreza in my= garage with a blown engine,,,,,,,,,,,,,and my hips are killing me.  M= ight be quicker
to just have the car fall on me:)))  Not. Sorry that I'm so lon= g winded, you ought to see me on Facebook, or, if it 
is ok with those who run = this list you could take a look at my "art" done on computer. It's at: = ;http://www.saatchiart.com/account/artworks/2196= 99  Thanks all.
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I hate to say it, but have you t= ried vice-grips?=20 Oil capacity is about 2.5 pints for a non-OD box and about 3 pints with OD = so it does sound like your level was quite low.=20 Colin 74-1/2=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: 6pack-request@autox.team.net=20 To: 6pack@autox.team.net=20 Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 2:00:01 PM=20 Subject: 6pack Digest, Vol 21, Issue 3=20 Send 6pack mailing list submissions to=20 6pack@autox.team.net=20 To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit=20 http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack=20 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to=20 6pack-request@autox.team.net=20 You can reach the person managing the list at=20 6pack-owner@autox.team.net=20 When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific=20 than "Re: Contents of 6pack digest..."=20 Today's Topics:=20 1. May 6 (John Summers)=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------=20 Message: 1=20 Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 01:47:55 +0000 (UTC)=20 From: John Summers =20 To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>=20 Subject: [6pack] May 6=20 Message-ID:=20 <1222998781.162536.1462585675279.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>=20 This is a copy of my message on the triumphs list.We've all heard the phras= e, "well, I've got good news and I've got bad news", right. ?A few weeks ag= osome one mentioned that maybe the reason my TR 6 wouldn't go into any gear= while running mightbe because of low oil within the transmission. ?So, he = good news is that I was so far under my carthat nobody could see a 67 year = old man crying. ?The bad news is first that the nut on the side ofthe trans= mission case had been mis handled so many times that it was nicked and bung= led up that no size socketcould get a grip on it. ?This caused my creative = mind to churn and churn,,,,,and churn. ?I decidedthat the rubber-like taper= ed re-stoppers I use to recork my wine bottles, if I drilled a hole into an= d through one,bought a hand squeeze siphon from PepBoys, ran the hose from = that into the stopper and the other endinto a bottle of oil and squeeze and= squeeze until I thought the oil level were correct. ?Of course this would = be a trickyoperation wh=20 at with having to remove the drain bolt. ?Rubber plugs and oil; just imagin= e the possibilities!! ?Oil came outand into the hose it should have been go= ing out of as well as all over my hand and driveway. ?I would say that yest= here was a good possibility the oil was low judging by the small amount on = the driveway. ?Maybe 1/2 to 3/4 cupbefore it turned into a drip. ?Now, how = much oil to get it back to the proper level? ?Question #2, do you think?tha= t the same fountain pump I used to drain the pan under my leaky kitchen dra= in would have the same easepumping oil as it did water? ?(I guess I could t= ry it first) ?Ok, along with oil came what appears to be a 3/8" magnetwith = shavings on both ends. ?I'm at a loss on that other than to say it did it's= job of collecting fragments of my gears.If the pump idea doesn't work I'm = not sure what to do. ?The fill nut,,,,,I've tried everything and can't get = anything close?enough to the base of the nut to really get a good grip. ?I'= ve thought about takin=20 g the transmission cover off and?coming at it from the inside of the "cockp= it". ?Dangit!!! the weather is so nice here in Jacksonville now?AND I have = to get THIS car on the road because since March 1st we've been driving a re= ntal due to troublewith the '98 Maxima. This has been an up and down day em= otionally. ?Wife disabled 16 years, oldest son withthree bulging discs and = NO cartilage in one knee,,,,been in the E.R. SEVEN times in the last month = and the youngerson's 2000 Subaru Impreza in my garage with a blown engine,,= ,,,,,,,,,,,and my hips are killing me. ?Might be quickerto just have the ca= r fall on me:))) ?Not. Sorry that I'm so long winded, you ought to see me o= n Facebook, or, if it?is ok with those who run this list you could take a l= ook at my "art" done on computer. It's at:?http://www.saatchiart.com/accoun= t/artworks/219699? 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The fill plug isn't any easier to get a= t from the top because it's obstructed by a gusset on the side of the gearb= ox. I hate to say it, but have you tried vice-grips?

Oil capacity is about 2.5 pints for a non-OD box and about 3 pints with = OD so it does sound like your level was quite low.

Colin 74-1/2


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This is a copy of my message on the triumphs list.We've all heard the phr= ase, "well, I've got good news and I've got bad news", right. ?A few weeks = agosome one mentioned that maybe the reason my TR 6 wouldn't go into any ge= ar while running mightbe because of low oil within the transmission. ?So, h= e good news is that I was so far under my carthat nobody could see a 67 yea= r old man crying. ?The bad news is first that the nut on the side ofthe tra= nsmission case had been mis handled so many times that it was nicked and bu= ngled up that no size socketcould get a grip on it. ?This caused my creativ= e mind to churn and churn,,,,,and churn. ?I decidedthat the rubber-like tap= ered re-stoppers I use to recork my wine bottles, if I drilled a hole into = and through one,bought a hand squeeze siphon from PepBoys, ran the hose fro= m that into the stopper and the other endinto a bottle of oil and squeeze a= nd squeeze until I thought the oil level were correct. ?Of course this woul= d be a trickyoperation wh
 at with having to remove the drain bolt.= ?Rubber plugs and oil; just imagine the possibilities!! ?Oil came outand i= nto the hose it should have been going out of as well as all over my hand a= nd driveway. ?I would say that yesthere was a good possibility the oil was = low judging by the small amount on the driveway. ?Maybe 1/2 to 3/4 cupbefor= e it turned into a drip. ?Now, how much oil to get it back to the proper le= vel? ?Question #2, do you think?that the same fountain pump I used to drain= the pan under my leaky kitchen drain would have the same easepumping oil a= s it did water? ?(I guess I could try it first) ?Ok, along with oil came wh= at appears to be a 3/8" magnetwith shavings on both ends. ?I'm at a loss on= that other than to say it did it's job of collecting fragments of my gears= .If the pump idea doesn't work I'm not sure what to do. ?The fill nut,,,,,I= 've tried everything and can't get anything close?enough to the base of the= nut to really get a good grip. ?I've thought about takin
 g the tr= ansmission cover off and?coming at it from the inside of the "cockpit". ?Da= ngit!!! the weather is so nice here in Jacksonville now?AND I have to get T= HIS car on the road because since March 1st we've been driving a rental due= to troublewith the '98 Maxima. This has been an up and down day emotionall= y. ?Wife disabled 16 years, oldest son withthree bulging discs and NO carti= lage in one knee,,,,been in the E.R. SEVEN times in the last month and the = youngerson's 2000 Subaru Impreza in my garage with a blown engine,,,,,,,,,,= ,,,and my hips are killing me. ?Might be quickerto just have the car fall o= n me:))) ?Not. Sorry that I'm so long winded, you ought to see me on Facebo= ok, or, if it?is ok with those who run this list you could take a look at m= y "art" done on computer. It's at:?http://www.saatchiart.com/account/artwor= ks/219699? Thanks all.
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From: John Summers via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0961987113011213336== boundary="----=_Part_207872_1644438755.1462939543971" ------=_Part_207872_1644438755.1462939543971 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There you are you old Six Pack!!As shared with Triumphs list: =C2=A0I thoug= ht I had the silver bullet today. =C2=A0I had read what type transmission o= il to use.Had a couple ideas working. =C2=A0One was go to NAPA and get the = oil. =C2=A0I did with the nicecounterman help find a Quart of SAE 80W90 and= a pretty cool hand pump that would pump it upthrough the drain hole. =C2= =A0I found a hose to which I wrapped the right amount of tape so this tubew= ent into the hole without losing a drop. =C2=A0Generally, I got the entire = quart in the gearbox with very littlespillage. =C2=A0I couldn't wait to fir= e the beast up and run through the gears. =C2=A0Which I did. =C2=A0The firs= t go=C2=A0through went like BUTTER. Then I took it out of gear eased up on = the clutch and went back to square 1No entry into the holy 4speed. =C2=A0To= ok a look at the clutch master and I could see dark fluid. So, I guess=C2= =A0my next purchase will be new gaskets. =C2=A0 Do I need more fluid in the= transmission? =C2=A0I still can't getthe bolt out where I could see it's b= eing topped off. =C2=A0 Hey Jacksonville guys, any hands on helpwould be gr= eatly appreciated.. =C2=A0For example, my wife has two Dr. Appointments tom= orrow. =C2=A0While at NAPAI picked up the Haynes Repair Manual For '98 Maxi= ma hoping to get a breakthrough clue about the=C2=A0mysterious shut off swi= tch.Hertz is getting rich off us. =C2=A0Anyway, I'll post this in the Six P= ack also. =C2=A0The more the merrier. ------=_Part_207872_1644438755.1462939543971 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There you are you old Six Pack!!
As shared with Triumphs list:  I thought I had the silv= er bullet today.  I had read what type transmission oil to use.=
Had a co= uple ideas working.  One was go to NAPA and get the oil.  I did w= ith the nice
counterman help find a Quart of SAE 80W90 and a pretty cool hand pump t= hat would pump it up
through the drain hole.  I found a hose to which I wrapped= the right amount of tape so this tube
went into the hole without losing a drop. &nb= sp;Generally, I got the entire quart in the gearbox with very little
<= div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462937775836_4863">spillage.  = ;I couldn't wait to fire the beast up and run through the gears.  Whic= h I did.  The first go 
through went like BUTTER. Then I took it out of ge= ar eased up on the clutch and went back to square 1
No entry into the holy 4speed. &= nbsp;Took a look at the clutch master and I could see dark fluid. So, I gue= ss 
= my next purchase will be new gaskets.   Do I need more fluid in the tr= ansmission?  I still can't get
the bolt out where I could see it's being topped= off.   Hey Jacksonville guys, any hands on help
would be greatly appreciated..=  For example, my wife has two Dr. Appointments tomorrow.  While = at NAPA
I= picked up the Haynes Repair Manual For '98 Maxima hoping to get a breakthr= ough clue about the 
mysterious shut off switch.
Hertz is getting rich off us.  Any= way, I'll post this in the Six Pack also.  The more the merrier.
= ------=_Part_207872_1644438755.1462939543971-- --===============0961987113011213336== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack --===============0961987113011213336==-- From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Wed May 11 06:19:59 2016 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528D8258829B for ; Wed, 11 May 2016 06:19:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from BAY004-OMC2S15.hotmail.com (bay004-omc2s15.hotmail.com [65.54.190.90]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B3A82587FCF for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Wed, 11 May 2016 06:16:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from NAM03-DM3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([65.54.190.124]) by BAY004-OMC2S15.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Wed, 11 May 2016 05:16:37 -0700 Received: from DM3NAM03FT025.eop-NAM03.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.82.58) by DM3NAM03HT057.eop-NAM03.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.83.49) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.497.8; Wed, 11 May 2016 12:16:36 +0000 Received: from SN1PR18MB0192.namprd18.prod.outlook.com (10.152.82.58) by DM3NAM03FT025.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.152.82.181) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.497.8 via Frontend Transport; Wed, 11 May 2016 12:16:35 +0000 Received: from SN1PR18MB0192.namprd18.prod.outlook.com ([10.163.58.140]) by SN1PR18MB0192.namprd18.prod.outlook.com ([10.163.58.140]) with mapi id 15.01.0492.016; Wed, 11 May 2016 12:16:35 +0000 To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> Thread-Topic: [6pack] Transmission oil and clutch. Thread-Index: AQHRq0C0gTss+MjVW0mkzZr1o+VbhZ+zpMJS Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 12:16:34 +0000 References: <2102293675.207873.1462939543974.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>, <2102293675.207873.1462939543974.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US authentication-results: spf=softfail (sender IP is 25.152.82.58) header.d=none; autox.team.net; dmarc=fail action=none header.from=hotmail.com; received-spf: SoftFail (protection.outlook.com: domain of transitioning hotmail.com discourages use of 25.152.82.58 as permitted sender) x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-tmn: [t/oKZtSJt8HGEwJGDZXDtM3PS6VVTFmn] x-eopattributedmessage: 0 x-forefront-antispam-report: CIP:25.152.82.58; IPV:NLI; CTRY:GB; EFV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(98900003); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:DM3NAM03HT057; H:SN1PR18MB0192.namprd18.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:SoftFail; MLV:ovrnspm; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 1851dad4-cb5d-46a6-0528-08d379961886 x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(1601124038)(5061506196)(5061507196)(1603103041)(1603101087)(1601125047); SRVR:DM3NAM03HT057; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(432015012)(102415293)(102615271)(82015046); SRVR:DM3NAM03HT057; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:DM3NAM03HT057; x-forefront-prvs: 0939529DE2 boundary="_004_SN1PR18MB0192B37E92DC4E9CDB400A348E720SN1PR18MB0192namp_" FILETIME=[F773DE90:01D1AB7E] Subject: [6pack] Fw: Transmission oil and clutch. From: im sloane via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --_004_SN1PR18MB0192B37E92DC4E9CDB400A348E720SN1PR18MB0192namp_ boundary="_000_SN1PR18MB0192B37E92DC4E9CDB400A348E720SN1PR18MB0192namp_" --_000_SN1PR18MB0192B37E92DC4E9CDB400A348E720SN1PR18MB0192namp_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey John, It's not the correct fix of course, but why don't you try my trick of shimm= ing out the slave cylinder with two stacks of washers. You need about a hal= f inch of shim, shouldn't need longer bolts but maybe. I'm telling you it w= orked for me for years, until I had the internal fork issue fixed. As I sai= d before (not trying to be a know-it-all) but there's no way this symptom i= s related to the oil level. The oil doesn't get up to the clutch plate. You= can't get it into gear because it's spinning, not because it's low on oil. Now, I didn't have a broken fork pin, so the shims may not help, but worth = a try. You're going to have to get the tranny pulled to replace that fork p= in. I'm not certain, but I believe working once, and then back to the same= problem, is a big indication of the fork pin being sheared. It slips back = around to the correct spot and works once, and then it's out of alignment a= gain and doesn't work at all. The biggest advice I can give you is this. Fix the Maxima! A Triumph doesn'= t like being counted on as primary transportation. They can tell. Ever wond= er why everybody you meet at a gas-station 'used' to have one? good luck, Sloane :) ________________________________ From: 6pack <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of John Summers via 6p= ack <6pack@autox.team.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 4:05 AM To: 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Transmission oil and clutch. There you are you old Six Pack!! . Took a look at the clutch master and I could see dark fluid. So, I guess my next purchase will be new gaskets. --_000_SN1PR18MB0192B37E92DC4E9CDB400A348E720SN1PR18MB0192namp_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey John,

It's not the correct fix of course, but why don't you try my trick of sh= imming out the slave cylinder with two stacks of washers. You need about a = half inch of shim, shouldn't need longer bolts but maybe. I'm telling you i= t worked for me for years, until I had the internal fork issue fixed. As I said before (not trying to be a = know-it-all) but there's no way this symptom is related to the oil level. T= he oil doesn't get up to the clutch plate. You can't get it into gear becau= se it's spinning, not because it's low on oil. 


Now, I didn't have a broken fork pin, so the shims may not help, but wor= th a try. You're going to have to get the tranny pulled to replace that for= k pin.  I'm not certain, but I believe working once, and then back to = the same problem, is a big indication of the fork pin being sheared. It slips back around to the correct spot an= d works once, and then it's out of alignment again and doesn't work at all.=  


The biggest advice I can give you is this. Fix the Maxima! A Triumph doe= sn't like being counted on as primary transportation. They can tell. Ever w= onder why everybody you meet at a gas-station 'used' to have one?


good luck,

Sloane :)



From: 6pack <6pack-bounc= es@autox.team.net> on behalf of John Summers via 6pack <6pack@autox.t= eam.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 4:05 AM
To: 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: [6pack] Transmission oil and clutch.
 
There you are you old Six = Pack!!
.  Took a look at the= clutch master and I could see dark fluid. So, I guess 
my next purcha= se will be new gaskets.   
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fyi =E2=80=93 if a transmission is essentially out of oil, it = won=E2=80=99t shift. =20 ask me how I know.
 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 7:16 AM
Subject: [6pack] Fw: Transmission oil and = clutch.
 

Hey John,

It's not the correct fix of course, but why don't you try my trick of = shimming out the slave cylinder with two stacks of washers. You need = about a=20 half inch of shim, shouldn't need longer bolts but maybe. I'm telling = you it=20 worked for me for years, until I had the internal fork issue fixed. As I = said=20 before (not trying to be a know-it-all) but there's no way this symptom = is=20 related to the oil level. The oil doesn't get up to the clutch plate. = You can't=20 get it into gear because it's spinning, not because it's low on oil. =

 

Now, I didn't have a broken fork pin, so the shims may not help, but = worth a=20 try. You're going to have to get the tranny pulled to replace that fork=20 pin.  I'm not certain, but I believe working once, and then back to = the=20 same problem, is a big indication of the fork pin being sheared. It = slips back=20 around to the correct spot and works once, and then it's out of = alignment again=20 and doesn't work at all.

 

The biggest advice I can give you is this. Fix the Maxima! A Triumph = doesn't=20 like being counted on as primary transportation. They can tell. Ever = wonder why=20 everybody you meet at a gas-station 'used' to have one?

 

good luck,

Sloane :)

------=_NextPart_000_007A_01D1AB5D.0D9D0EC0-- --===============1034780416709696040== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack --===============1034780416709696040==-- From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Wed May 11 11:42:19 2016 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF652589753 for ; Wed, 11 May 2016 11:42:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from BAY004-OMC4S7.hotmail.com (bay004-omc4s7.hotmail.com [65.54.190.209]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0AE2588ECE for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Wed, 11 May 2016 09:09:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from NAM02-BL2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([65.54.190.199]) by BAY004-OMC4S7.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Wed, 11 May 2016 08:09:47 -0700 Received: from BL2NAM02FT026.eop-nam02.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.76.54) by BL2NAM02HT162.eop-nam02.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.76.246) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.492.8; Wed, 11 May 2016 15:09:42 +0000 Received: from SN1PR18MB0192.namprd18.prod.outlook.com (10.152.76.58) by BL2NAM02FT026.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.152.77.156) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.492.8 via Frontend Transport; Wed, 11 May 2016 15:09:41 +0000 Received: from SN1PR18MB0192.namprd18.prod.outlook.com ([10.163.58.140]) by SN1PR18MB0192.namprd18.prod.outlook.com ([10.163.58.140]) with mapi id 15.01.0492.016; Wed, 11 May 2016 15:09:41 +0000 To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> Thread-Topic: [6pack] Fw: Transmission oil and clutch. Thread-Index: AQHRq5VBYnGLROwaGU+LFRVpQrmPP5+z1op/ Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 15:09:41 +0000 References: <2102293675.207873.1462939543974.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>, <2102293675.207873.1462939543974.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> , Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US authentication-results: spf=softfail (sender IP is 25.152.76.58) header.d=none; autox.team.net; dmarc=fail action=none header.from=hotmail.com; received-spf: SoftFail (protection.outlook.com: domain of transitioning hotmail.com discourages use of 25.152.76.58 as permitted sender) x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-tmn: [9j2dVYAUzm/LfDtB2392+8vRpj8HQR1H] x-eopattributedmessage: 0 x-forefront-antispam-report: CIP:25.152.76.58; IPV:NLI; CTRY:GB; EFV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(98900003); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BL2NAM02HT162; H:SN1PR18MB0192.namprd18.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:SoftFail; MLV:ovrnspm; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: c066401b-5328-4a1f-b506-08d379ae475a x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(1601124038)(5061506196)(5061507196)(1603103041)(1601125047)(1603101087); SRVR:BL2NAM02HT162; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(432015012)(82015046); SRVR:BL2NAM02HT162; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:BL2NAM02HT162; x-forefront-prvs: 0939529DE2 FILETIME=[283AF960:01D1AB97] Subject: Re: [6pack] Fw: Transmission oil and clutch. From: im sloane via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0519930032869885774== Content-Language: en-US boundary="_000_SN1PR18MB01920C9EAEB98507E0697F608E720SN1PR18MB0192namp_" --_000_SN1PR18MB01920C9EAEB98507E0697F608E720SN1PR18MB0192namp_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Understood - and good to know. But just curious. Will it shift OK sometimes= , and then refuse to go into gear as this symptom sounds to be? ________________________________ From: 6pack <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of dave n via 6pack <6= pack@autox.team.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 1:13 PM To: 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] Fw: Transmission oil and clutch. fyi - if a transmission is essentially out of oil, it won't shift. ask me = how I know. --_000_SN1PR18MB01920C9EAEB98507E0697F608E720SN1PR18MB0192namp_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Understood - and good to know. But just curious. Will it shift OK sometimes= , and then refuse to go into gear as this symptom sounds to be?

From: 6pack <6pack-bounc= es@autox.team.net> on behalf of dave n via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.ne= t>
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 1:13 PM
To: 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fw: Transmission oil and clutch.
 
fyi – if a transmission is essentially out of oil, it won’= t shift.  ask me how I know.
 

--_000_SN1PR18MB01920C9EAEB98507E0697F608E720SN1PR18MB0192namp_-- --===============0519930032869885774== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack --===============0519930032869885774==-- From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Wed May 11 14:38:42 2016 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0BD82589C51 for ; Wed, 11 May 2016 14:38:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa07-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa07-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.238]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2479725897F1 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Wed, 11 May 2016 13:02:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 370Z ([216.138.90.252]) by p3plsmtpa07-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id t72Y1s0075SgtPc0172Yk4; Wed, 11 May 2016 12:02:33 -0700 To: <6pack@autox.team.net> References: <2102293675.207873.1462939543974.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>, <2102293675.207873.1462939543974.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> , Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 14:01:38 -0500 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: [6pack] Fw: Transmission oil and clutch. From: dave n via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============4288012548476060561== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01D1AB8D.A2F3F350" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01D1AB8D.A2F3F350 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable my experience was a tr4 od tran in a tr3 (not tr3a). it ran for a while = (about 7 miles over several days) as the oil drained out. I = don=E2=80=99t remember any symptoms other than at some point, and it = seemed sudden, it would not shift at all. (that was about 6 months ago = so my memory may not be exact.) pulled the tran as everyone said it = was the fork, and took it to a british car repair shop. they told me = that after filling it there was a dinner plate size puddle under it the = next morning. they did a great job of sealing it, and I=E2=80=99ve = since run the car with no issues. From: im sloane via 6pack=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:09 AM To: 6pack@autox.team.net=20 Subject: Re: [6pack] Fw: Transmission oil and clutch. Understood - and good to know. But just curious. Will it shift OK = sometimes, and then refuse to go into gear as this symptom sounds to be? -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- From: 6pack <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of dave n via 6pack = <6pack@autox.team.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 1:13 PM To: 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] Fw: Transmission oil and clutch.=20 fyi =E2=80=93 if a transmission is essentially out of oil, it = won=E2=80=99t shift. ask me how I know. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/dave@ranteer.com ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01D1AB8D.A2F3F350 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
my experience was a tr4 od tran in a tr3 (not tr3a).  it ran = for a=20 while (about 7 miles over several days) as the oil drained out.  I = don=E2=80=99t=20 remember any symptoms other than at some point, and it seemed sudden, it = would=20 not shift at all.  (that was about 6 months ago so my memory may = not be=20 exact.)     pulled the tran as everyone said it was = the=20 fork, and took it to a british car repair shop.  they told me that = after=20 filling it there was a dinner plate size puddle under it the next = morning. =20 they did a great job of sealing it, and I=E2=80=99ve since run the car = with no=20 issues.
 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fw: Transmission oil and=20 clutch.
 

 

Understood - and good to know. But just curious. Will it = shift OK=20 sometimes, and then refuse to go into gear as this symptom sounds to = be?

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To: 6pack@autox.team.net
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fyi =E2=80=93 if a transmission is essentially out of oil, it = won=E2=80=99t shift. =20 ask me how I know.
 
 

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Today's Topics: =C2=A0 1. Transmission oil and clutch. (John Summers) =C2=A0 2. Fw:=C2=A0 Transmission oil and clutch. (im sloane) =C2=A0 3. Re: Fw:=C2=A0 Transmission oil and clutch. (dave n) =C2=A0 4. Re: Fw:=C2=A0 Transmission oil and clutch. (im sloane) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 04:05:43 +0000 (UTC) From: John Summers To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: [6pack] Transmission oil and clutch. Message-ID: =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <2102293675.207873.1462939543974.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yah= oo.com> There you are you old Six Pack!!As shared with Triumphs list: ?I thought I = had the silver bullet today. ?I had read what type transmission oil to use.= Had a couple ideas working. ?One was go to NAPA and get the oil. ?I did wit= h the nicecounterman help find a Quart of SAE 80W90 and a pretty cool hand = pump that would pump it upthrough the drain hole. ?I found a hose to which = I wrapped the right amount of tape so this tubewent into the hole without l= osing a drop. ?Generally, I got the entire quart in the gearbox with very l= ittlespillage. ?I couldn't wait to fire the beast up and run through the ge= ars. ?Which I did. ?The first go?through went like BUTTER. Then I took it o= ut of gear eased up on the clutch and went back to square 1No entry into th= e holy 4speed. ?Took a look at the clutch master and I could see dark fluid= . So, I guess?my next purchase will be new gaskets. ? Do I need more fluid = in the transmission? ?I still can't getthe bolt out where I could see it's = being topped off. ? Hey =C2=A0 Jacksonville guys, any hands on helpwould be greatly appreciated.. ?= For example, my wife has two Dr. Appointments tomorrow. ?While at NAPAI pic= ked up the Haynes Repair Manual For '98 Maxima hoping to get a breakthrough= clue about the?mysterious shut off switch.Hertz is getting rich off us. ?A= nyway, I'll post this in the Six Pack also. ?The more the merrier. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 12:16:34 +0000 From: im sloane To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: [6pack] Fw:=C2=A0 Transmission oil and clutch. Message-ID: =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20 Hey John, It's not the correct fix of course, but why don't you try my trick of shimm= ing out the slave cylinder with two stacks of washers. You need about a hal= f inch of shim, shouldn't need longer bolts but maybe. I'm telling you it w= orked for me for years, until I had the internal fork issue fixed. As I sai= d before (not trying to be a know-it-all) but there's no way this symptom i= s related to the oil level. The oil doesn't get up to the clutch plate. You= can't get it into gear because it's spinning, not because it's low on oil. Now, I didn't have a broken fork pin, so the shims may not help, but worth = a try. You're going to have to get the tranny pulled to replace that fork p= in.=C2=A0 I'm not certain, but I believe working once, and then back to the= same problem, is a big indication of the fork pin being sheared. It slips = back around to the correct spot and works once, and then it's out of alignm= ent again and doesn't work at all. The biggest advice I can give you is this. Fix the Maxima! A Triumph doesn'= t like being counted on as primary transportation. They can tell. Ever wond= er why everybody you meet at a gas-station 'used' to have one? good luck, Sloane :) ________________________________ From: 6pack <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of John Summers via 6p= ack <6pack@autox.team.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 4:05 AM To: 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Transmission oil and clutch. There you are you old Six Pack!! .=C2=A0 Took a look at the clutch master and I could see dark fluid. So, I = guess my next purchase will be new gaskets. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: ATT00001.txt URL: ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 08:13:51 -0500 From: "dave n" To: <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] Fw:=C2=A0 Transmission oil and clutch. fyi ? if a transmission is essentially out of oil, it won?t shift.=C2=A0 as= k me how I know. From: im sloane via 6pack=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 7:16 AM To: 6pack@autox.team.net=20 Subject: [6pack] Fw: Transmission oil and clutch. Hey John, It's not the correct fix of course, but why don't you try my trick of shimm= ing out the slave cylinder with two stacks of washers. You need about a hal= f inch of shim, shouldn't need longer bolts but maybe. I'm telling you it w= orked for me for years, until I had the internal fork issue fixed. As I sai= d before (not trying to be a know-it-all) but there's no way this symptom i= s related to the oil level. The oil doesn't get up to the clutch plate. You= can't get it into gear because it's spinning, not because it's low on oil.= =20 Now, I didn't have a broken fork pin, so the shims may not help, but worth = a try. You're going to have to get the tranny pulled to replace that fork p= in.=C2=A0 I'm not certain, but I believe working once, and then back to the= same problem, is a big indication of the fork pin being sheared. It slips = back around to the correct spot and works once, and then it's out of alignm= ent again and doesn't work at all.=20 The biggest advice I can give you is this. Fix the Maxima! A Triumph doesn'= t like being counted on as primary transportation. They can tell. Ever wond= er why everybody you meet at a gas-station 'used' to have one? good luck, Sloane :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 15:09:41 +0000 From: im sloane To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] Fw:=C2=A0 Transmission oil and clutch. Message-ID: =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20 Understood - and good to know. But just curious. Will it shift OK sometimes= , and then refuse to go into gear as this symptom sounds to be? ________________________________ From: 6pack <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of dave n via 6pack <6= pack@autox.team.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 1:13 PM To: 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] Fw: Transmission oil and clutch. fyi - if a transmission is essentially out of oil, it won't shift.=C2=A0 as= k me how I know. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ 6pack mailing list 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack ------------------------------ End of 6pack Digest, Vol 21, Issue 6 ************************************ ------=_Part_829117_851627455.1463005699782 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A lot to digest here. &n= bsp;Seems like the stack of washers idea would be my first choi= ce.  Will it shine and then not shift?
After adding oil it went through the gears once whil= e on the jack.  It was so smooth I thought the problem was solved.
When I put it in neutral= and depressed the clutch pedal there was noticeably less resistance and it= wouldn't go 
through the gears.  Had my son check the fluid in the MC and= it was proper, EXCEPT the color.  Somewhat dark.
I'm going to just go ahead an= d order a "new" MC and pray.  You know, the funny thing is that
<= div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463003015266_5591" dir=3D"ltr">I checked the s= erial numbers on the rear tires and went to the Michelin web site and found= out they were born
in 1993.  New tires on the front.  The freaking TIRES = have lasted longer than anything!!  I saw an Ad in Hemmings
last night showing = an old man (like me except I'm just 67) standing next to an older 'Vette in= his driveway with
the caption "It was parked in your mind long before your driveway= ".  We took a TR6 for a test drive in 1970 and
I fell in love with the look,,,,= ,finally got the '74 in '98.  What can I say,,,,,,,,,


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  = 1. Transmission oil and clutch. (John Summers)
  2. Fw:  Tran= smission oil and clutch. (im sloane)
  3. Re: Fw:  Transmissi= on oil and clutch. (dave n)
  4. Re: Fw:  Transmission oil an= d clutch. (im sloane)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 04= :05:43 +0000 (UTC)
From: John Summers <rivers2hills@yahoo.co= m>
To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.= net>
Subject: [6pack] Transmission oil and clutch.
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There you are you old Six Pack!!As shared with Triumphs list: = ?I thought I had the silver bullet today. ?I had read what type transmissio= n oil to use.Had a couple ideas working. ?One was go to NAPA and get the oi= l. ?I did with the nicecounterman help find a Quart of SAE 80W90 and a pret= ty cool hand pump that would pump it upthrough the drain hole. ?I found a h= ose to which I wrapped the right amount of tape so this tubewent into the h= ole without losing a drop. ?Generally, I got the entire quart in the gearbo= x with very littlespillage. ?I couldn't wait to fire the beast up and run t= hrough the gears. ?Which I did. ?The first go?through went like BUTTER. The= n I took it out of gear eased up on the clutch and went back to square 1No = entry into the holy 4speed. ?Took a look at the clutch master and I could s= ee dark fluid. So, I guess?my next purchase will be new gaskets. ? Do I nee= d more fluid in the transmission? ?I still can't getthe bolt out where I co= uld see it's being topped off. ? Hey
  Jacksonville guys, any hands= on helpwould be greatly appreciated.. ?For example, my wife has two Dr. Ap= pointments tomorrow. ?While at NAPAI picked up the Haynes Repair Manual For= '98 Maxima hoping to get a breakthrough clue about the?mysterious shut off= switch.Hertz is getting rich off us. ?Anyway, I'll post this in the Six Pa= ck also. ?The more the merrier.
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From: im = sloane <im_sloane@hotmail.com>
To: "6pack@autox.te= am.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>
Subject: [6pack] Fw:&n= bsp; Transmission oil and clutch.
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Hey John,<= br>
It's not the correct fix of course, but why don't you try my trick o= f shimming out the slave cylinder with two stacks of washers. You need abou= t a half inch of shim, shouldn't need longer bolts but maybe. I'm telling y= ou it worked for me for years, until I had the internal fork issue fixed. A= s I said before (not trying to be a know-it-all) but there's no way this sy= mptom is related to the oil level. The oil doesn't get up to the clutch pla= te. You can't get it into gear because it's spinning, not because it's low = on oil.


Now, I didn't have a broken fork pin, so the shims may n= ot help, but worth a try. You're going to have to get the tranny pulled to = replace that fork pin.  I'm not certain, but I believe working once, a= nd then back to the same problem, is a big indication of the fork pin being= sheared. It slips back around to the correct spot and works once, and then= it's out of alignment again and doesn't work at all.


The bigges= t advice I can give you is this. Fix the Maxima! A Triumph doesn't like bei= ng counted on as primary transportation. They can tell. Ever wonder why eve= rybody you meet at a gas-station 'used' to have one?


good luck,<= br>
Sloane :)


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Sent: Wedn= esday, May 11, 2016 4:05 AM
To: 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject= : [6pack] Transmission oil and clutch.

There you are you old Six Pac= k!!
.  Took a look at the clutch master and I could see dark fluid.= So, I guess
my next purchase will be new gaskets.
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fyi ? if a transmission is essentially out of oil, i= t won?t shift.  ask me how I know.

From: im sloane via 6pack Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 7:16 AM
To: 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: [6pack] Fw: Transmission oil and clutch.

Hey John,
It's not the correct fix of course, but why don't you try my trick of = shimming out the slave cylinder with two stacks of washers. You need about = a half inch of shim, shouldn't need longer bolts but maybe. I'm telling you= it worked for me for years, until I had the internal fork issue fixed. As = I said before (not trying to be a know-it-all) but there's no way this symp= tom is related to the oil level. The oil doesn't get up to the clutch plate= . You can't get it into gear because it's spinning, not because it's low on= oil.



Now, I didn't have a broken fork pin, so the shims ma= y not help, but worth a try. You're going to have to get the tranny pulled = to replace that fork pin.  I'm not certain, but I believe working once= , and then back to the same problem, is a big indication of the fork pin be= ing sheared. It slips back around to the correct spot and works once, and t= hen it's out of alignment again and doesn't work at all.



Th= e biggest advice I can give you is this. Fix the Maxima! A Triumph doesn't = like being counted on as primary transportation. They can tell. Ever wonder= why everybody you meet at a gas-station 'used' to have one?


good luck,

Sloane :)
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Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 15:09:41 +0000
From: im slo= ane <im_sloane@hotmail.com>
To: "6pack@autox.team.= net" <6pack@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fw:&= nbsp; Transmission oil and clutch.
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Under= stood - and good to know. But just curious. Will it shift OK sometimes, and= then refuse to go into gear as this symptom sounds to be?

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Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 1:13 PM
To: 6pa= ck@autox.team.net
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Today's Topics: =C2=A0 1. Re: Fw:=C2=A0 Transmission oil and clutch. (dave n) =C2=A0 2. Re: 6pack Digest, Vol 21, Issue 6 (John Summers) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 14:01:38 -0500 From: "dave n" To: <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] Fw:=C2=A0 Transmission oil and clutch. my experience was a tr4 od tran in a tr3 (not tr3a).=C2=A0 it ran for a whi= le (about 7 miles over several days) as the oil drained out.=C2=A0 I don?t = remember any symptoms other than at some point, and it seemed sudden, it wo= uld not shift at all.=C2=A0 (that was about 6 months ago so my memory may n= ot be exact.)=C2=A0 =C2=A0 pulled the tran as everyone said it was the fork= , and took it to a british car repair shop.=C2=A0 they told me that after f= illing it there was a dinner plate size puddle under it the next morning.= =C2=A0 they did a great job of sealing it, and I?ve since run the car with = no issues. From: im sloane via 6pack=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:09 AM To: 6pack@autox.team.net=20 Subject: Re: [6pack] Fw: Transmission oil and clutch. Understood - and good to know. But just curious. 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Today's Topics: ? 1. Transmission oil and clutch. (John Summers) ? 2. Fw:? Transmission oil and clutch. (im sloane) ? 3. Re: Fw:? Transmission oil and clutch. (dave n) ? 4. Re: Fw:? Transmission oil and clutch. (im sloane) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 04:05:43 +0000 (UTC) From: John Summers To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: [6pack] Transmission oil and clutch. Message-ID: ??? <2102293675.207873.1462939543974.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> There you are you old Six Pack!!As shared with Triumphs list: ?I thought I = had the silver bullet today. ?I had read what type transmission oil to use.= Had a couple ideas working. ?One was go to NAPA and get the oil. ?I did wit= h the nicecounterman help find a Quart of SAE 80W90 and a pretty cool hand = pump that would pump it upthrough the drain hole. ?I found a hose to which = I wrapped the right amount of tape so this tubewent into the hole without l= osing a drop. ?Generally, I got the entire quart in the gearbox with very l= ittlespillage. ?I couldn't wait to fire the beast up and run through the ge= ars. ?Which I did. ?The first go?through went like BUTTER. Then I took it o= ut of gear eased up on the clutch and went back to square 1No entry into th= e holy 4speed. ?Took a look at the clutch master and I could see dark fluid= . So, I guess?my next purchase will be new gaskets. ? Do I need more fluid = in the transmission? ?I still can't getthe bolt out where I could see it's = being topped off. ? Hey ? Jacksonville guys, any hands on helpwould be greatly appreciated.. ?For e= xample, my wife has two Dr. Appointments tomorrow. ?While at NAPAI picked u= p the Haynes Repair Manual For '98 Maxima hoping to get a breakthrough clue= about the?mysterious shut off switch.Hertz is getting rich off us. ?Anyway= , I'll post this in the Six Pack also. ?The more the merrier. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 12:16:34 +0000 From: im sloane To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: [6pack] Fw:? Transmission oil and clutch. Message-ID: ??? ???=20 Hey John, It's not the correct fix of course, but why don't you try my trick of shimm= ing out the slave cylinder with two stacks of washers. You need about a hal= f inch of shim, shouldn't need longer bolts but maybe. I'm telling you it w= orked for me for years, until I had the internal fork issue fixed. As I sai= d before (not trying to be a know-it-all) but there's no way this symptom i= s related to the oil level. The oil doesn't get up to the clutch plate. You= can't get it into gear because it's spinning, not because it's low on oil. Now, I didn't have a broken fork pin, so the shims may not help, but worth = a try. You're going to have to get the tranny pulled to replace that fork p= in.? I'm not certain, but I believe working once, and then back to the same= problem, is a big indication of the fork pin being sheared. It slips back = around to the correct spot and works once, and then it's out of alignment a= gain and doesn't work at all. The biggest advice I can give you is this. Fix the Maxima! A Triumph doesn'= t like being counted on as primary transportation. They can tell. Ever wond= er why everybody you meet at a gas-station 'used' to have one? good luck, Sloane :) ________________________________ From: 6pack <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of John Summers via 6p= ack <6pack@autox.team.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 4:05 AM To: 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Transmission oil and clutch. There you are you old Six Pack!! .? Took a look at the clutch master and I could see dark fluid. So, I guess my next purchase will be new gaskets. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: ATT00001.txt URL: ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 08:13:51 -0500 From: "dave n" To: <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] Fw:? Transmission oil and clutch. fyi ? if a transmission is essentially out of oil, it won?t shift.? ask me = how I know. From: im sloane via 6pack=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 7:16 AM To: 6pack@autox.team.net=20 Subject: [6pack] Fw: Transmission oil and clutch. Hey John, It's not the correct fix of course, but why don't you try my trick of shimm= ing out the slave cylinder with two stacks of washers. You need about a hal= f inch of shim, shouldn't need longer bolts but maybe. I'm telling you it w= orked for me for years, until I had the internal fork issue fixed. As I sai= d before (not trying to be a know-it-all) but there's no way this symptom i= s related to the oil level. The oil doesn't get up to the clutch plate. You= can't get it into gear because it's spinning, not because it's low on oil.= =20 Now, I didn't have a broken fork pin, so the shims may not help, but worth = a try. You're going to have to get the tranny pulled to replace that fork p= in.? I'm not certain, but I believe working once, and then back to the same= problem, is a big indication of the fork pin being sheared. It slips back = around to the correct spot and works once, and then it's out of alignment a= gain and doesn't work at all.=20 The biggest advice I can give you is this. Fix the Maxima! A Triumph doesn'= t like being counted on as primary transportation. They can tell. Ever wond= er why everybody you meet at a gas-station 'used' to have one? good luck, Sloane :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 15:09:41 +0000 From: im sloane To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] Fw:? Transmission oil and clutch. Message-ID: ??? ???=20 Understood - and good to know. But just curious. 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I forgot the question. &n= bsp;I'll take it as far as I can in the driveway.  If all else fails, = it's off to
the local Engli= sh mechanic.  Put a Mustang 300hp 6 cylinder in it plus drive train,,,= ,,patch up the rust
make it= a world beater since I can't afford a Caterham!!!
 


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From: "dave n" <dave@ranteer.com>
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= my experience was a tr4 od tran in a tr3 (not tr3a).  it ran for a whi= le (about 7 miles over several days) as the oil drained out.  I don?t = remember any symptoms other than at some point, and it seemed sudden, it wo= uld not shift at all.  (that was about 6 months ago so my memory may n= ot be exact.)    pulled the tran as everyone said it was the for= k, and took it to a british car repair shop.  they told me that after = filling it there was a dinner plate size puddle under it the next morning.&= nbsp; they did a great job of sealing it, and I?ve since run the car with n= o issues.

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To: 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fw= : Transmission oil and clutch.



Understood - and good to know= . But just curious. Will it shift OK sometimes, and then refuse to go into = gear as this symptom sounds to be?



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fyi ? if a transmission is = essentially out of oil, it won?t shift.  ask me how I know.



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A lot to digest = here. ?Seems like the stack of washers idea would be my first?choice. ?Will= it shine and then not shift?After adding oil it went through the gears onc= e while on the jack. ?It was so smooth I thought the problem was solved.Whe= n I put it in neutral and depressed the clutch pedal there was noticeably l= ess resistance and it wouldn't go?through the gears. ?Had my son check the = fluid in the MC and it was proper, EXCEPT the color. ?Somewhat dark.I'm goi= ng to just go ahead and order a "new" MC and pray. ?You know, the funny thi= ng is thatI checked the serial numbers on the rear tires and went to the Mi= chelin web site and found out they were bornin 1993. ?New tires on the fron= t. ?The freaking TIRES have lasted longer than anything!! ?I saw an Ad in H= emmingslast night showing an old man (like me except I'm just 67) standing = next to an older 'Vette in his driveway withthe caption "It was parked in y= our mind long before your driveway". ?We took a TR6 for a test drive in 197= 0 andI
fell in love with the look,,,,,finally got the '74 in '98. ?Wha= t can I say,,,,,,,,,

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? 2. Fw:? Transmission oil and clutch. (im sloa= ne)
? 3. Re: Fw:? Transmission oil and clutch. (dave n)
? 4. Re: Fw:?= Transmission oil and clutch. (im sloane)


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Message: 1
Date:= Wed, 11 May 2016 04:05:43 +0000 (UTC)
From: John Summers <r= ivers2hills@yahoo.com>
To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>
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There you are you old Six Pack!!As shared with Triumphs l= ist: ?I thought I had the silver bullet today. ?I had read what type transm= ission oil to use.Had a couple ideas working. ?One was go to NAPA and get t= he oil. ?I did with the nicecounterman help find a Quart of SAE 80W90 and a= pretty cool hand pump that would pump it upthrough the drain hole. ?I foun= d a hose to which I wrapped the right amount of tape so this tubewent into = the hole without losing a drop. ?Generally, I got the entire quart in the g= earbox with very littlespillage. ?I couldn't wait to fire the beast up and = run through the gears. ?Which I did. ?The first go?through went like BUTTER= . Then I took it out of gear eased up on the clutch and went back to square= 1No entry into the holy 4speed. ?Took a look at the clutch master and I co= uld see dark fluid. So, I guess?my next purchase will be new gaskets. ? Do = I need more fluid in the transmission? ?I still can't getthe bolt out where= I could see it's being topped off. ? Hey
? Jacksonville guys, any hands= on helpwould be greatly appreciated.. ?For example, my wife has two Dr. Ap= pointments tomorrow. ?While at NAPAI picked up the Haynes Repair Manual For= '98 Maxima hoping to get a breakthrough clue about the?mysterious shut off= switch.Hertz is getting rich off us. ?Anyway, I'll post this in the Six Pa= ck also. ?The more the merrier.
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Subject: [6pack] Fw:? = Transmission oil and clutch.
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Hey John,

It's not the correct fix of = course, but why don't you try my trick of shimming out the slave cylinder w= ith two stacks of washers. You need about a half inch of shim, shouldn't ne= ed longer bolts but maybe. I'm telling you it worked for me for years, unti= l I had the internal fork issue fixed. As I said before (not trying to be a= know-it-all) but there's no way this symptom is related to the oil level. = The oil doesn't get up to the clutch plate. You can't get it into gear beca= use it's spinning, not because it's low on oil.


Now, I didn't ha= ve a broken fork pin, so the shims may not help, but worth a try. You're go= ing to have to get the tranny pulled to replace that fork pin.? I'm not cer= tain, but I believe working once, and then back to the same problem, is a b= ig indication of the fork pin being sheared. It slips back around to the co= rrect spot and works once, and then it's out of alignment again and doesn't= work at all.


The biggest advice I can give you is this. Fix the= Maxima! A Triumph doesn't like being counted on as primary transportation.= They can tell. Ever wonder why everybody you meet at a gas-station 'used' = to have one?


good luck,

Sloane :)


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Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 4:05 AM
To: 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: [6pack] Transmission oil and clutch.=

There you are you old Six Pack!!
.? Took a look at the clutch ma= ster and I could see dark fluid. So, I guess
my next purchase will be ne= w gaskets.
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To: <6pack@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fw:? Transmission o= il and clutch.
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fyi ? if a transmission i= s essentially out of oil, it won?t shift.? ask me how I know.

From: = im sloane via 6pack
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 7:16 AM
To: 6= pack@autox.team.net
Subject: [6pack] Fw: Transmission oil and clutc= h.

Hey John,

It's not the correct fix of course, but why don'= t you try my trick of shimming out the slave cylinder with two stacks of wa= shers. You need about a half inch of shim, shouldn't need longer bolts but = maybe. I'm telling you it worked for me for years, until I had the internal= fork issue fixed. As I said before (not trying to be a know-it-all) but th= ere's no way this symptom is related to the oil level. The oil doesn't get = up to the clutch plate. You can't get it into gear because it's spinning, n= ot because it's low on oil.



Now, I didn't have a broken for= k pin, so the shims may not help, but worth a try. You're going to have to = get the tranny pulled to replace that fork pin.? I'm not certain, but I bel= ieve working once, and then back to the same problem, is a big indication o= f the fork pin being sheared. It slips back around to the correct spot and = works once, and then it's out of alignment again and doesn't work at all. <= br>


The biggest advice I can give you is this. Fix the Maxima! A= Triumph doesn't like being counted on as primary transportation. They can = tell. Ever wonder why everybody you meet at a gas-station 'used' to have on= e?



good luck,

Sloane :)
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Understood - and good= to know. But just curious. Will it shift OK sometimes, and then refuse to = go into gear as this symptom sounds to be?

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Several of my friends have significantly boosted the power output of their engines, and their cars still get plenty of fuel and air on the 2 carbs. FWIW, Kastner was able to get over 200HP on 2 carbs when he was the competition director. What are you trying to accomplish by going to triples? Irv Korey 74 TR6 CF22767U Highland Park, IL --001a113913165e90340532cb45a1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 5:33 AM, kingr44916--- via 6pack <6pack@aut= ox.team.net> wrote:
Anyone running with the Goodparts tri carb Stromberg set up is i= t worth it on a stock motor any advice is great

I am not running the triple c= arbs on my mildly uprated (medium cam, header and exhaust, increased compre= ssion) engine, so I think it might be overkill on your stock engine. Severa= l of my friends have significantly boosted the power output of their engine= s, and their cars still get plenty of fuel and air on the 2 carbs. FWIW, Ka= stner was able to get over 200HP on 2 carbs when he was the competition dir= ector. What are you trying to accomplish by going to triples?

=
Irv Korey
74= TR6 CF22767U
Highland Park, IL
--001a113913165e90340532cb45a1-- --===============2303921349567178034== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack --===============2303921349567178034==-- From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Sat May 14 07:07:04 2016 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6C125884F3 for ; Sat, 14 May 2016 07:07:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa07-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa07-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F102587E0E for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Sat, 14 May 2016 06:34:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 370Z ([76.184.96.42]) by p3plsmtpa07-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id uCaK1s00A0urav801CaLjY; Sat, 14 May 2016 05:34:20 -0700 To: <6pack@autox.team.net> References: <154aed3ec0d-1b47-19b35@webprd-m29.mail.aol.com> Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 07:32:47 -0500 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: [6pack] Tri carb set up From: dave n via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============6518907427884127537== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0026_01D1ADB2.D02ED890" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01D1ADB2.D02ED890 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable absolutely! I put my triple carbs on a stock motor, and the increased = torque was immediately noticeable. you are effectively adding 50% more = carburation. think about that! now the downside is that it will make = you yearn for a mild cam and other engine mods! and then suspension = mods to handle it, brake mods to stop it, etc. I totally went that = route and never regret a minute! plus my son loves the car. From: kingr44916--- via 6pack=20 Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 5:33 AM To: 6pack@autox.team.net=20 Subject: [6pack] Tri carb set up Anyone running with the Goodparts tri carb Stromberg set up is it worth = it on a stock motor any advice is great ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01D1ADB2.D02ED890 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
absolutely!  I put my triple carbs on a stock motor, and the = increased=20 torque was immediately noticeable.  you are effectively adding 50% = more=20 carburation.  think about that!  now the downside is that it = will make=20 you yearn for a mild cam and other engine mods!  and then = suspension mods=20 to handle it, brake mods to stop it, etc.  I totally went that = route and=20 never regret a minute!  plus my son loves the car.
 
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Anyone=20 running with the Goodparts tri carb Stromberg set up is it worth it on a = stock=20 motor any advice is great
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If your goal is to make the car quicker, you will get more bang for the buck getting the head shaved to get about 9.5/1 compression, getting a mild regrind on the cam, and, if you have the engine or tranny out shaving some weight off the flywheel. All can be done for less than the the cost of the triple manifold set with carbs. Of course there is also more work and down time involved. That is how my car is set up, I got a chance to run an electronically timed quarter mile a couple years back. Consistent 16.7s, vs. Road and Track's time for a stock TR250 of 17.9. It purrs like a kitten and pulls great out of tight corners. If you want them cause you want them do it. You can always do more upgrades later :). Greg Lemon 68 TR250 ---- dave n via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> wrote: > absolutely! I put my triple carbs on a stock motor, and the increased torque was immediately noticeable. you are effectively adding 50% more carburation. think about that! now the downside is that it will make you yearn for a mild cam and other engine mods! and then suspension mods to handle it, brake mods to stop it, etc. I totally went that route and never regret a minute! plus my son loves the car. > > From: kingr44916--- via 6pack > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 5:33 AM > To: 6pack@autox.team.net > Subject: [6pack] Tri carb set up > > Anyone running with the Goodparts tri carb Stromberg set up is it worth it on a stock motor any advice is great _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Sat May 14 11:20:58 2016 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF9D25884C1 for ; Sat, 14 May 2016 11:20:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from nm35-vm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm35-vm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.216.190]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33AB825845BB for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Sat, 14 May 2016 10:54:06 -0600 (MDT) t=1463244846; bh=hL9WesXgs+FWSpxxwmPKkI08FAj5GP+JmQVTw1dwUIc=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=bKaPgjjLyaBRyE977qDkQkD98FEAv/ZuW7/v/D/4xit9d2yMUcyiDYNkiroOZBD+En7SuQTOmSEj1MH2YyvNR92yMY6priakmUII/8mkyTpOaK+eszlvfuAyZH4mRXixcDmcIhWBj25yZOY1DSmU/0EJi/spGGBj+NJ4zXhfWXoyGT8wURkJb0W93JOwjIsUQ1x0q0FnaO5dWLRIqZ4mxE/v7RNV2Y+KQMCTvtw/bbcqVCi62r4D/yk0IcjYN9HIRWJo2H8Rtit9USaikRgrqWw4/5HXUUEcwrGPPnLEBAN5NxxjqZglrnG0SncXgaI+QBW8X5gvKDUP0pKaKPgltw== Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm35.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 May 2016 16:54:06 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.56] by nm35.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 May 2016 16:51:15 -0000 Received: from [98.139.170.179] by tm1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 May 2016 16:51:15 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.238] by tm22.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 May 2016 16:51:15 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1047.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 May 2016 16:51:15 -0000 9eEPxjoU3Hkjk4dAlhvw3oIrAVY6PdpyBhZy.zz1I2VwtIXThM1wu7XvHLQyA7shFEf8FhjsTpaO R2by96e1HbahTzsix5eE5QLYgwHt_cP9n4dRYvfdq1aUy8ANZod9fIZ1w8JCoSRb5yYz556oHn3Z JWPjj8Mfhnpvt.U5CbziKWwwDvoDzNzYjz9J4y02hQp9BOcfgudh2DlNWpLzB3Ed8PQMrF3FdlH. 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I put one on my old car. What a difference! Look into a TBI conversion. This is known to improve drivability and econom= y. A more even power delivery enlarges the power band. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, May 14, 2016, 9:55 AM, glemon--- via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.n= et> wrote: I dont have it on my car, and if you want a simple bolt on that looks good = and may give a little more power I am sure it will do the trick.=C2=A0 If y= our goal is to make the car quicker, you will get more bang for the buck ge= tting the head shaved to get about 9.5/1 compression, getting a mild regrin= d on the cam, and, if you have the engine or tranny out shaving some weight= off the flywheel.=C2=A0 All can be done for less than the the cost of the = triple manifold set with carbs.=C2=A0 Of course there is also more work and= down time involved. That is how my car is set up, I got a chance to run an electronically timed= quarter mile a couple years back.=C2=A0 Consistent 16.7s, vs. Road and Tra= ck's time for a stock TR250 of 17.9.=C2=A0 It purrs like a kitten and pulls= great out of tight corners. If you want them cause you want them do it.=C2=A0 You can always do more up= grades later :).=C2=A0=20 Greg Lemon 68 TR250 ---- dave n via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> wrote:=20 > absolutely!=C2=A0 I put my triple carbs on a stock motor, and the increas= ed torque was immediately noticeable.=C2=A0 you are effectively adding 50% = more carburation.=C2=A0 think about that!=C2=A0 now the downside is that it= will make you yearn for a mild cam and other engine mods!=C2=A0 and then s= uspension mods to handle it, brake mods to stop it, etc.=C2=A0 I totally we= nt that route and never regret a minute!=C2=A0 plus my son loves the car. >=20 > From: kingr44916--- via 6pack=20 > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 5:33 AM > To: 6pack@autox.team.net=20 > Subject: [6pack] Tri carb set up >=20 > Anyone running with the Goodparts tri carb Stromberg set up is it worth i= t on a stock motor any advice is great _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack oo.com =20 ------=_Part_2427136_1293029504.1463244672992 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Two thoughts:
If your motor is in great shape consider = the Moss supercharger kit. I put one on my old car. What a difference!

Look into a TBI conversion. This is known to improve d= rivability and economy. A more even power delivery enlarges the power band.=


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iP= hone

On Saturday, May 14, 2016, 9:55 AM, glemon--- via 6pack &l= t;6pack@autox.team.net> wrote:

I dont have i= t on my car, and if you want a simple bolt on that looks good and may give = a little more power I am sure it will do the trick.  If your goal is t= o make the car quicker, you will get more bang for the buck getting the hea= d shaved to get about 9.5/1 compression, getting a mild regrind on the cam,= and, if you have the engine or tranny out shaving some weight off the flyw= heel.  All can be done for less than the the cost of the triple manifo= ld set with carbs.  Of course there is also more work and down time in= volved.

That is how my car is set up, = I got a chance to run an electronically timed quarter mile a couple years b= ack.  Consistent 16.7s, vs. Road and Track's time for a stock TR250 of= 17.9.  It purrs like a kitten and pulls great out of tight corners.
If you want them cause you want them do= it.  You can always do more upgrades later :). 

Greg Lemon
68 TR250

---- dave n via = 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> wrote:
= > absolutely!  I put my triple carbs on a stock motor, and the incr= eased torque was immediately noticeable.  you are effectively adding 5= 0% more carburation.  think about that!  now the downside is that= it will make you yearn for a mild cam and other engine mods!  and the= n suspension mods to handle it, brake mods to stop it, etc.  I totally= went that route and never regret a minute!  plus my son loves the car= .
>
> From: kingr44916--- via 6p= ack
> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 5:33 AM
> To: 6pack@autox.team.net
&g= t; Subject: [6pack] Tri carb set up
>
> Anyone running with the Goodparts tri carb Stromberg set up is it w= orth it on a stock motor any advice is great

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------=_Part_2427136_1293029504.1463244672992-- --===============8296987126497773927== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack --===============8296987126497773927==-- From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Sat May 14 13:48:30 2016 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6136B258877D for ; Sat, 14 May 2016 13:48:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.239]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5265725886A3 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Sat, 14 May 2016 13:18:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 370Z ([76.184.96.42]) by p3plsmtpa09-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id uKJp1s0040urav801KJqLL; Sat, 14 May 2016 12:18:51 -0700 To: "Triumph 6 Pack" <6pack@autox.team.net> References: <20160514141748.MOPDB.50841.root@cdptpa-web21> Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 14:06:33 -0500 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: [6pack] Tri carb set up From: dave n via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net I'm curious - the manifold kit is $399. add $100 for another carb (and that's high), and you are at $499. you are saying you can have the head shaved, get a mild cam, and add a lightened flywheel for less than $500????? camshafts are in the $200 to $300 range, then you have to change out tappets or have them cut. maybe you can get the head shaved for under $200, but if you have it out you should have it redone, or at least checked out. adding that pressure and you really should get a better head gasket. add some miscellaneous stuff and you are well over $500. buying a lightened flywheel is $300 to $500. I guess you could have yours lightened for less, but it better be by someone who really knows what they are doing. if a flywheel grenades it will take off your foot. I don't see how your numbers work unless you have a machine shop and you did all this yourself. and, btw, no reason to stop at 9.5 to 1. you can run close to 11 on these cars. I'm over 10 and I know Richard Good is over 12 on his car with no ill effects. -----Original Message----- From: glemon@neb.rr.com Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 9:17 AM To: dave n Cc: dave n via 6pack Subject: Re: [6pack] Tri carb set up I dont have it on my car, and if you want a simple bolt on that looks good and may give a little more power I am sure it will do the trick. If your goal is to make the car quicker, you will get more bang for the buck getting the head shaved to get about 9.5/1 compression, getting a mild regrind on the cam, and, if you have the engine or tranny out shaving some weight off the flywheel. All can be done for less than the the cost of the triple manifold set with carbs. Of course there is also more work and down time involved. That is how my car is set up, I got a chance to run an electronically timed quarter mile a couple years back. Consistent 16.7s, vs. Road and Track's time for a stock TR250 of 17.9. It purrs like a kitten and pulls great out of tight corners. If you want them cause you want them do it. You can always do more upgrades later :). Greg Lemon 68 TR250 ---- dave n via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> wrote: > absolutely! I put my triple carbs on a stock motor, and the increased > torque was immediately noticeable. you are effectively adding 50% more > carburation. think about that! now the downside is that it will make you > yearn for a mild cam and other engine mods! and then suspension mods to > handle it, brake mods to stop it, etc. I totally went that route and > never regret a minute! plus my son loves the car. > > From: kingr44916--- via 6pack > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 5:33 AM > To: 6pack@autox.team.net > Subject: [6pack] Tri carb set up > > Anyone running with the Goodparts tri carb Stromberg set up is it worth it > on a stock motor any advice is great _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Sat May 14 14:50:59 2016 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) 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67d2000499c64170; Sat, 14 May 2016 15:47:59 -0600 To: Gene Holtzclaw , dave n References: Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 15:48:08 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 Cc: Triumph 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] Tri carb set up From: Michael Porter via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============4151616832082297675== boundary="------------040208020104040709090804" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040208020104040709090804 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 5/14/2016 2:28 PM, Gene Holtzclaw via 6pack wrote: > I still say study the numbers. Even a high performance TR engine can't > flow what two Stromberg's can handle. > > This is quite true, on the numbers from the flow bench of just the carburetors and just the head. I would say, however, that there's a small advantage in having each carburetor servicing two runners, instead of three, if only because the runners are straighter, and the pulses from each carb will be a bit sharper and better-defined with three carburetors instead of two. Flow numbers aren't everything--they matter, but so do mixture distribution and mixture uniformity. My guess is--because of the upper limits on flow of the head--there wouldn't be a great top-end power increase, but the low- and mid-range performance would probably improve some, and there would be slight torque improvement because patchy mixtures delivered to some cylinders would be reduced. That said, the difference is going to be small, because of the port limitations of the cylinder head. Is the improvement worth the money? That's probably subjective. A hundred bucks a horsepower is pretty dear for the occasional driver. For the NASCAR guy, it's a bargain. Dyno comparisons on the same engine would probably tell the tale. Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... --------------040208020104040709090804 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 5/14/2016 2:28 PM, Gene Holtzclaw via 6pack wrote:
I still say study the numbers. Even a high performance TR engine can't flow what two Stromberg's can handle.


This is quite true, on the numbers from the flow bench of just the carburetors and just the head.  I would say, however, that there's a small advantage in having each carburetor servicing two runners, instead of three, if only because the runners are straighter, and the pulses from each carb will be a bit sharper and better-defined with three carburetors instead of two.  Flow numbers aren't everything--they matter, but so do mixture distribution and mixture uniformity.  My guess is--because of the upper limits on flow of the head--there wouldn't be a great top-end power increase, but the low- and mid-range performance would probably improve some, and there would be slight torque improvement because patchy mixtures delivered to some cylinders would be reduced.

That said, the difference is going to be small, because of the port limitations of the cylinder head.  Is the improvement worth the money? That's probably subjective.  A hundred bucks a horsepower is pretty dear for the occasional driver.  For the NASCAR guy, it's a bargain.     

Dyno comparisons on the same engine would probably tell the tale.


Cheers.  
-- 


Michael Porter
Roswell, NM


Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance....
--------------040208020104040709090804-- --===============4151616832082297675== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack --===============4151616832082297675==-- From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Sat May 14 18:20:36 2016 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6151F25881AB for ; Sat, 14 May 2016 18:20:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.199]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33124258582E for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Sat, 14 May 2016 16:53:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vwm20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (vwm20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.10.50]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0O76007I8VLB4B20@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for 6pack@autox.team.net; Sat, 14 May 2016 18:53:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [69.126.235.217] by webtop.webmail.optimum.net with HTTP; Sat, 14 May 2016 18:53:35 -0400 Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 18:53:35 -0400 (EDT) To: Gene Holtzclaw References: User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: Triumph 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] Tri carb set up From: Bob Peglow via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3930820572078704523== boundary="Boundary_(ID_W6MhWXbXEZSeelcwUTmzsg)" --Boundary_(ID_W6MhWXbXEZSeelcwUTmzsg) Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline Agree. Jaguar 5.3L XKE v12's run on 2 Strombergs. Bob Peglow On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 04:28 PM, Gene Holtzclaw via 6pack wrote: I still say study the numbers. Even a high performance TR engine can't=20 flow what two Stromberg's can handle. =C2=A0 --Boundary_(ID_W6MhWXbXEZSeelcwUTmzsg) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline
Agree.
Jaguar 5.3L XKE v12's run on 2 Strombergs.
Bob Peglow


On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 04:28 PM, Gene Holtzclaw via 6pack wrote:

I still say study the numbers. Even a high performance TR engine can't flow what two Stromberg's can handle.
 
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Sat, 14 May 2016 22:24:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa12-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa12-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2959E2587B72 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Sat, 14 May 2016 19:06:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 370Z ([76.184.96.42]) by p3plsmtpa12-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id uR6m1s0070urav801R6nwc; Sat, 14 May 2016 18:06:47 -0700 To: "Triumph 6 Pack" <6pack@autox.team.net> References: <57379D18.7040504@dfn.com> Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 20:06:17 -0500 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: [6pack] Tri carb set up From: dave n via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============6081173570871383532== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01D1AE1C.13169760" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01D1AE1C.13169760 charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable numbers may say one thing, but I think the best test is the =93seat=94 = test. have first put the triples on a stock engine, then done quite a = lot of other mods, I=92m going to say the seat test says do it. and, I will add that my son has done very well in TR6 modified with this = car. like so many things, there are a ton of opinions. I=92ll stick with = mine. From: Michael Porter=20 Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 4:48 PM To: Gene Holtzclaw ; dave n=20 Cc: Triumph 6 Pack=20 Subject: Re: [6pack] Tri carb set up On 5/14/2016 2:28 PM, Gene Holtzclaw via 6pack wrote: I still say study the numbers. Even a high performance TR engine can't = flow what two Stromberg's can handle. This is quite true, on the numbers from the flow bench of just the = carburetors and just the head. I would say, however, that there's a = small advantage in having each carburetor servicing two runners, instead = of three, if only because the runners are straighter, and the pulses = from each carb will be a bit sharper and better-defined with three = carburetors instead of two. Flow numbers aren't everything--they = matter, but so do mixture distribution and mixture uniformity. My guess = is--because of the upper limits on flow of the head--there wouldn't be a = great top-end power increase, but the low- and mid-range performance = would probably improve some, and there would be slight torque = improvement because patchy mixtures delivered to some cylinders would be = reduced. That said, the difference is going to be small, because of the port = limitations of the cylinder head. Is the improvement worth the money? = That's probably subjective. A hundred bucks a horsepower is pretty dear = for the occasional driver. For the NASCAR guy, it's a bargain. =20 Dyno comparisons on the same engine would probably tell the tale. Cheers. =20 --=20 Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking = distance.... ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01D1AE1C.13169760 charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
numbers may say one thing, but I think the best test is the = =93seat=94=20 test.  have first put the triples on a stock engine, then done = quite a lot=20 of other mods, I=92m going to say the seat test says do it.
 
and, I will add that my son has done very well in TR6 modified with = this=20 car.
 
like so many things, there are a ton of opinions.  I=92ll = stick with=20 mine.
 
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [6pack] Tri carb set up
 
On 5/14/2016 2:28 PM, Gene Holtzclaw via = 6pack=20 wrote:
I still say study the numbers. Even a high performance TR engine = can't=20 flow what two Stromberg's can handle.
 
 
This is quite true, on the numbers = from the=20 flow bench of just the carburetors and just the head.  I would say, = however, that there's a small advantage in having each carburetor = servicing two=20 runners, instead of three, if only because the runners are straighter, = and the=20 pulses from each carb will be a bit sharper and better-defined with = three=20 carburetors instead of two.  Flow numbers aren't everything--they = matter,=20 but so do mixture distribution and mixture uniformity.  My guess=20 is--because of the upper limits on flow of the head--there wouldn't be a = great=20 top-end power increase, but the low- and mid-range performance would = probably=20 improve some, and there would be slight torque improvement because = patchy=20 mixtures delivered to some cylinders would be reduced.

That said, = the=20 difference is going to be small, because of the port limitations of the = cylinder=20 head.  Is the improvement worth the money? That's probably=20 subjective.  A hundred bucks a horsepower is pretty dear for the = occasional=20 driver.  For the NASCAR guy, it's a = bargain.     =20

Dyno comparisons on the same engine would probably tell the=20 tale.


Cheers.  
--=20


Michael Porter
Roswell, NM


Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking =
distance....
------=_NextPart_000_0031_01D1AE1C.13169760-- --===============6081173570871383532== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack --===============6081173570871383532==-- From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Sun May 15 02:02:04 2016 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD052587F81 for ; Sun, 15 May 2016 02:02:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB65F2585C41 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Sat, 14 May 2016 22:09:01 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge01 smtp.user=glemon@neb.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.174.248] ([107.14.174.248:7295] helo=cdptpa-web21) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id B9/5E-24501-356F7375; Sun, 15 May 2016 04:08:51 +0000 Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 4:08:51 +0000 To: dave n Sensitivity: Normal Sun, 15 May 2016 4:08:51 +0000 Cc: dave n via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] Tri carb set up From: glemon--- via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Maybe not fair, but I was using the number for the manifold and three carbs, which was something like $1600, I agree with the guy who suggested the emission strombergs are not as easily tuneable as early SUs or even early strombergs. I did have my flywheel lightened locally, for about $70 if I recall right, shop run by old timers who charge old time prices, can look up bearings and seals and even brake shoe linings in real books with specs, rather than being lost without make and model, but I digress, I trust them and the work they do. Cam and lifters redone at Delta cams for about $120, dont know the exact cost of the head, it was done with the rest of the motor, and the cost will vary depending on what else "while you have it off and apart". I have another head I am going to go with for a lttle higher compression and cleaned up the ports, interested to see what that will do. I have read 9.5 or 10.0 to 1 is about as high as you want to go with a street motor, but no personal experience other than with my own motor, I was thinking 10 to 1 with the new head, but you have me thinking I might bump it a little more. Greg Lemon ---- dave n via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> wrote: > I'm curious - the manifold kit is $399. add $100 for another carb (and > that's high), and you are at $499. you are saying you can have the head > shaved, get a mild cam, and add a lightened flywheel for less than $500????? > > camshafts are in the $200 to $300 range, then you have to change out tappets > or have them cut. maybe you can get the head shaved for under $200, but if > you have it out you should have it redone, or at least checked out. adding > that pressure and you really should get a better head gasket. add some > miscellaneous stuff and you are well over $500. > > buying a lightened flywheel is $300 to $500. I guess you could have yours > lightened for less, but it better be by someone who really knows what they > are doing. if a flywheel grenades it will take off your foot. > > I don't see how your numbers work unless you have a machine shop and you did > all this yourself. > > and, btw, no reason to stop at 9.5 to 1. you can run close to 11 on these > cars. I'm over 10 and I know Richard Good is over 12 on his car with no ill > effects. > > -----Original Message----- > From: glemon@neb.rr.com > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 9:17 AM > To: dave n > Cc: dave n via 6pack > Subject: Re: [6pack] Tri carb set up > > I dont have it on my car, and if you want a simple bolt on that looks good > and may give a little more power I am sure it will do the trick. If your > goal is to make the car quicker, you will get more bang for the buck getting > the head shaved to get about 9.5/1 compression, getting a mild regrind on > the cam, and, if you have the engine or tranny out shaving some weight off > the flywheel. All can be done for less than the the cost of the triple > manifold set with carbs. Of course there is also more work and down time > involved. > > That is how my car is set up, I got a chance to run an electronically timed > quarter mile a couple years back. Consistent 16.7s, vs. Road and Track's > time for a stock TR250 of 17.9. It purrs like a kitten and pulls great out > of tight corners. > > If you want them cause you want them do it. You can always do more upgrades > later :). > > Greg Lemon > 68 TR250 > ---- dave n via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> wrote: > > absolutely! I put my triple carbs on a stock motor, and the increased > > torque was immediately noticeable. you are effectively adding 50% more > > carburation. think about that! now the downside is that it will make you > > yearn for a mild cam and other engine mods! and then suspension mods to > > handle it, brake mods to stop it, etc. I totally went that route and > > never regret a minute! plus my son loves the car. > > > > From: kingr44916--- via 6pack > > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 5:33 AM > > To: 6pack@autox.team.net > > Subject: [6pack] Tri carb set up > > > > Anyone running with the Goodparts tri carb Stromberg set up is it worth it > > on a stock motor any advice is great > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/glemon@neb.rr.com > _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Tue May 17 23:24:54 2016 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EDCF2587BB1 for ; Tue, 17 May 2016 23:24:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10CF7258951F; Tue, 17 May 2016 19:51:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674894115C07; Tue, 17 May 2016 19:51:52 -0600 (MDT) To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , list 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 19:51:52 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40 Subject: [6pack] Well I'll be. From: Mark J Bradakis via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Got an email message this afternoon, almost deleted it, looked a bit spammy. Glad I read it. It is from a guy working on a TR6. Here's an excerpt: Anyway, I got to wondering if the engine was original. So, I did a little research on the numbers. Turns out, the motor is not original. I went to the UK TR Registry, with some questions about it. Here is a link to that thread: http://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/56755-tr6-engine-number-quesiton/ So, then I got to wondering where the car is that my engine came from. 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From: Jb via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Pretty cool. Got to love the Internet for what it has done for the vintage sports car hobby. Sent from my iPad On May 17, 2016, at 8:51 PM, Mark J Bradakis via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> wrote: > Got an email message this afternoon, almost deleted it, looked a bit spammy. Glad I read it. It is from a guy working on a TR6. Here's an excerpt: > > Anyway, I got to wondering if the engine was original. So, I did a little research on the numbers. Turns out, the motor is not original. I went to the UK TR Registry, with some questions about it. Here is a link to that thread: > > http://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/56755-tr6-engine-number-quesiton/ > > So, then I got to wondering where the car is that my engine came from. 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The wiring diagram shows it feeds a connector with 5 wires to voltage stablizer, reverse/overdrive switches, heater motor switch, brake lights, hazard switch/turn signals I sure would save me time if I could locate that connector and disconnect the various feeds one at a time since most of these loads are behind the dash or otherwise buried. Anyone know where it's located? John North 1976 Inca Yellow _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Fri May 20 17:29:19 2016 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B3D25887F8 for ; Fri, 20 May 2016 17:29:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f43.google.com (mail-oi0-f43.google.com [209.85.218.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F89F25890EA for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Fri, 20 May 2016 11:16:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f43.google.com with SMTP id x19so189612162oix.2 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Fri, 20 May 2016 10:26:13 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=P9jKoRVDK+/J6q5orjC7p5YWxA/WTtV9VCVU+brFQRQ=; b=lJivWfZG2qjVivj9qyPNVXtSHC8Wq6Y48UqiycOBIpvfdPnxO7izFSL+qWvz27U2Sm B71X2DIAqjuLIl2jG4Md241Gwvivqkb6WHL2VHDyfPDuZwSmsbMEKQ73ygwAFg19Hh3f RdCqrCBc/KX2IrH5ABVXQPOYXmf/v/K1GgbHT7/TrCG3feEloO5o4sc5cgfXase7FK9T WXWZRzc4EaEPSRq+x3WAm6kloo+LZllQB5tAbCLSQhfH8cAF96pqAZ2tbgytZdOcvb+S RXWFJHEQlH4hd6N+80mkHwa70tASVLphNdWCoJIejj1bsFjPF6RFQDJVZNF8Wj4quicM 6/UA== d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=P9jKoRVDK+/J6q5orjC7p5YWxA/WTtV9VCVU+brFQRQ=; b=e8Tuwt7r2rLk8QGf+Zu8ZmJDnwIgaUlxqagElTqLH55Svml+i6+QL7i3um+kly51PG WOrQ1IQz12f56BvSX8dTE88E4q5NrqultCo0jyQfFgNLvIHkP7ADoL6gkC/00Is0p4sa 8LBdYbpEDGP+21wNEZkKgzprg5hrwsZ1eZWhlj02Nvs04gPl1V4fN2hmkrlkQMbrYIS0 XjpPD/JVYXZS25deZiVHWFnqA7l85/U/VZeGLctQ3LCkYbG1WlVDCbbTGvr/c7j8yS7g oZDiW4deDoLUrFuO9vx/q+Q4emVYCGWkHcT3mtz4P4lqUsXp1N95eN8Hy5e3kIEnuO0M ZusA== Fri, 20 May 2016 10:26:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.157.44.177 with HTTP; Fri, 20 May 2016 10:26:02 -0700 (PDT) References: <154cb76d948-2051-29e1@webprd-m81.mail.aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 13:26:02 -0400 To: Mgruber921 , Triumph 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] Blowing fuse Green circuit From: John North via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Right circuit but it was the fan switch. It's a strange switch, with a terminal out the side that looks like it is grounded on the bulkhead frame. It has been wrapped by a PO with electrical tape and that apparently failed. I bent the terminal backwards and put it all back together, testing as I tightened things up but when the final wrench was made the final test shorted again. I am down 6 fuses so far... John North 1976 TR6 Inca Yellow On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Mgruber921 wrote: > My money is on the heater fan motor. Check that sw to is if it is pulled > out. > Marv > > Sent from AOL Mobile Mail > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John North via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> > To: Triumph 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net> > Sent: Thu, May 19, 2016 05:59 PM > Subject: [6pack] Blowing fuse Green circuit > > > This fuse keeps blowing. The wiring diagram shows it feeds a > connector with 5 wires to voltage stablizer, reverse/overdrive > switches, heater motor switch, brake lights, hazard switch/turn > signals > > I sure would save me time if I could locate that connector and > disconnect the various feeds one at a time since most of these loads > are behind the dash or otherwise buried. Anyone know where it's > located? > > John North > 1976 Inca Yellow > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/mgruber921@aol.com > _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Wed May 25 21:43:31 2016 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1267925888BB for ; Wed, 25 May 2016 21:43:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f43.google.com (mail-oi0-f43.google.com [209.85.218.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 943E42589453 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Wed, 25 May 2016 19:48:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f43.google.com with SMTP id j1so102620035oih.3 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Wed, 25 May 2016 18:58:30 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=vv2B3Xz4/GuHb3/gUGhj3heS0OcY0C8tg7+PP5qAE4g=; b=PJmSNlebNGmlJ1Db8rEZyyxXoWU1zF7PCNuq0PHE/4qyf6TmFhp0oD/uTfDLZX3Ge2 li4ZrrFRBImQPdYPhd18/pVqx7iwbX19MNSTyGvyam4KOQ4i706YWNA105yNqZAy+gVE YjFk22phy07vK8eV5fWuw1ewRxsoDE1RudzFVHlGVsTPpTCWu8wDVbA1wX30DT8cilBZ 9yzmhWXmcudbKfcDbsWaJVlWo6B5aQ+8pQgtGrDx1duhC0eYWmDfN7+nVMflB1u5X6Z0 O7xUvNGHqJOL2XKzX/NWAQhEGLyssmIUuA6nwRZkUqm1CpJ5ys/Jn8QsR/IBcaK8ewFH Didw== d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=vv2B3Xz4/GuHb3/gUGhj3heS0OcY0C8tg7+PP5qAE4g=; b=iWK5UaozO1ndnB1g7I8H57SyB0BNiNLk97wpzpqVRSZHrtTFQRpduvW+9gzttx4EY+ vawDYN9QF9GJs09vqpyH0w5KsAueNcFbxiGkVWlQrMwUFworKS/blk3JuQZtL0LAzwkN 062Mmo69dbS4qaly2pdpHVnVeGJty+gUI8p4K85uzq5lgz6YVJvzHZpDx+/86MzIEC+e VM4FZnokwxqLS2pz0zE4IYRMnjjK4iMT+BTc3cuVWCj/RIbTrXx1gyRnChZaR664G9nn w7glSU24YRdNnqUNNMWqOOL+0sl0elHrG1LsoSyhVJcU+dzB2j/GkmF6FRE3ME6IwT2v LlXw== Wed, 25 May 2016 18:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.157.44.177 with HTTP; Wed, 25 May 2016 18:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 21:58:19 -0400 To: Triumph 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: [6pack] Anti run on valve From: John North via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Not sure this is worth it but I am trying to get this functional. There are three tubes on top of the canister and one on the bottom. There are two tube connections on the anti-run on valve, a large one and a small one. The TRF catalogue here http://trf.zeni.net/TR6bluebook/49.php shows hoses connected to two of the canister top ones (middle one to the valve cover, small one to the carbs) and the large one on the canister bottom, connected to the large one on the valve. So that leaves a small one on the canister and a small one on the valve. Are these connected to something or are they plugged? I have Masters Electrical Manual and he discusses the wiring, but not the functional side... John North 1976 Inca Yellow _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Thu May 26 00:34:51 2016 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1CB3258A4B0 for ; Thu, 26 May 2016 00:34:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25482587CA9 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Thu, 26 May 2016 00:02:48 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge01 smtp.user=fetnerj001@hawaii.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.174.248] ([107.14.174.248:3064] helo=cdptpa-web24) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 07/38-13695-BC396475; Thu, 26 May 2016 06:12:27 +0000 Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 6:12:27 +0000 To: John North Sensitivity: Normal Thu, 26 May 2016 6:12:27 +0000 Cc: John North via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] Anti run on valve From: fetnerj001--- via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Hi John, On my 74.5, the other small one on the top should go to the plastic gas tank vent line and the small one on the ARO valve goes to a small nipple on the intake manifold. Jeff ---- John North via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> wrote: > Not sure this is worth it but I am trying to get this functional. > There are three tubes on top of the canister and one on the bottom. > There are two tube connections on the anti-run on valve, a large one > and a small one. > > The TRF catalogue here > > http://trf.zeni.net/TR6bluebook/49.php > > shows hoses connected to two of the canister top ones (middle one to > the valve cover, small one to the carbs) and the large one on the > canister bottom, connected to the large one on the valve. So that > leaves a small one on the canister and a small one on the valve. Are > these connected to something or are they plugged? > > I have Masters Electrical Manual and he discusses the wiring, but not > the functional side... > > John North > 1976 Inca Yellow > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/fetnerj001@hawaii.rr.com > _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Tue May 31 20:20:27 2016 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D61E25ACA48 for ; Tue, 31 May 2016 20:20:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from nm12-vm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm12-vm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.70]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15C32599313 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Tue, 31 May 2016 19:31:01 -0600 (MDT) t=1464745233; bh=IYvFJlMy5rWsSowE6F7plh2dBChm7eZ9Jk6pxEioy30=; h=From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=QhqLiOaaNYWOjehNwA+i/d8EYSlweqpYIGo4YOgadATNhEOqjHE1Cq5gM2P5mG4JWi+q3e0nAwmSl+Ywzc/NKlgYlQUju2NfwO4Gv7FS7/YqNPwe92Wb6sfI8vAi4DlYtvpitVsZotVZYTtKFa0k2yK6NV9N9lOQ5YXnLwlIboQQiEXrhtLAv6RgJHp7CARfmpJNLCyiZwq+wTNaprro4z8AnzxKUiHZgnD7+EcILt05q0Qqc8yOJW/dDCQFpbpkd13z8Ti/+RThS0e8I0vymQq9U13GI/2xxTYLxa34CJJKs4KHCL4SWMz1LgH2mkRYY79FBQ74JenEpZOkSFH15A== Received: from [216.39.60.168] by nm12.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jun 2016 01:40:33 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.244] by tm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jun 2016 01:40:33 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp115.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jun 2016 01:40:33 -0000 gTGM5H2h9jghdZ8TMvHBPueRsBNKxV9Gv_RdG9QgEaRiqIfrm_9dHjaVdEyN BYTY8PEDCXbolWQnY.dqGR1eVrd7svssjauPbSmzG2FsZn.xmRSTWFlfjcMw GcZAJwpz5towGvldm1ZcSU4Ib61NTc9qHaZLpXDCi2ElOeZ0O3Fvw9ehNRYb EvRd0ZO3QlJq4XMuCy4zpo.RnOqe34a2Y.xGELDJZzocE.hsPckxDpUcN1LC UrKjKfjOxDT7NCRN9yxvp7cNIVW2zTjUdvjCv04JYqHxQbotgyz_xddzcewO IQDZ6gr8.15m0KRjQlKEVzz1WPu_Yx3jv.iOgvFABv9YvnC4p0wiepNSUu6d kRxUBX9ZqzFiu9j_6xgZ1bGddJwE.gVde9m5rMrXqLXqnh6J3LUHZqr1_ItG .WSI6cESDdTaBCBi.Hk4scyfJz0FLnqFJ8iWRUKF6vNewbjFCIl07SvvvEPf mdMt9RkoxPI0XUbOhnafPKnxDsXlMiTkwcJVshMyJpGputhk- To: <6pack@autox.team.net> References: Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 20:40:32 -0500 Thread-Index: AQJpeENdyYqBIZmhZyOVllXrBpJ0TZ6kW8WQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [6pack] 6pack Digest, Vol 21, Issue 16 From: Vito via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net I am slowly getting to all my parts I still have left to sell I will eBay them but first wanted to see if there was any interest here. I am in Houston and I don't think I want to ship them. I have two front fenders, two rear fenders, five doors (can never have enough doors!), and a hard top (all for a TR6). All rust free but all needing repaint. I have not seen them in a while (sitting up in the rafters, but I do not recall any dents on any of them. Let me know if there is any interest. _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack