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Modified 1974 Triumph TR6 5-Speed for sale on BaT Auctions - ending June 4 = (Lot #49,079) | Bring a Trailer If you look at it closely, you'll see it's got a more aggressive profile th= an the stock spoiler that Triumph fitted to TR6's from 1973 onwards.=C2=A0 = I asked the owner where he got it, but it was already fitted to the car bef= ore he bought it, so he doesn't really know.=C2=A0 He commented that he thi= nks it came from Rimmer in UK, but looking at their website it just again l= ooks like the OE style.=C2=A0 Anyone know anything about this style of spoiler?=C2=A0 I love the look! Regards,Tim Holbrook1971 TR6 ------=_Part_2249175_1748100496.1622552108908 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi everyone,

I saw this ca= r come up for sale on Bring A Trailer, and the front spoiler caught my eye.=

Modified 1974 Triumph = TR6 5-Speed for sale on BaT Auctions - ending June 4 (Lot #49,079) | Bring = a Trailer

If you look at it closely, you'l= l see it's got a more aggressive profile than the stock spoiler that Triump= h fitted to TR6's from 1973 onwards.  I asked the owner where he got i= t, but it was already fitted to the car before he bought it, so he doesn't = really know.  He commented that he thinks it came from Rimmer in UK, b= ut looking at their website it just again looks like the OE style. 

Anyone know anything about this style of spoiler?  I l= ove the look!

Regards,
Tim Holbrook
1971 TR= 6
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Thanks.
Bob Fabie
Fredericksburg, VA
--000000000000e327be05c4c2d08f-- --===============3760476816513951783== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack --===============3760476816513951783==-- From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 14 18:30:19 2021 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E150A0D16 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 18:30:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lf1-f44.google.com (unknown [209.85.167.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988A7A0EB7 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 18:30:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lf1-f44.google.com with SMTP id bp38so24044139lfb.0 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 17:30:03 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=aRrAJ8Vrjik9noD6i9w8Zt2ZKurZSuKDFJRp4va12pg=; b=SVnJs8jJhiL2NppsgmxMxeycXzAj27gZ4fM5/0/PBJ4o1BWHlIL0Zk54H0ikqd8lgA piQI1kJOIhscIM3l2CJhGTo6JJoIJq9zqn6iU6y49XhC5Ib4EPNXIP47MXObKRlvGtyk P4PY10Ef0H/Y9qw1ruyVMwhQ72nuBqf/tJb4xTwvksjbPgMunG3+QXWs+ruIwhvft+ja DZbPRW1/jLAc4p5AbHJI4vzmcJUFLOy7d9xrw8X42Ago4XuzPgjijLQsSGAWUAgfqw+P SmfoAfBWY0C6Pt15IvhJqKttEa/z5CMeiXfS5rOTh5cQKTFgOO313+s056lQo54Q4tud 1faA== d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=aRrAJ8Vrjik9noD6i9w8Zt2ZKurZSuKDFJRp4va12pg=; b=DxIgb4WOJ9uW+Y6xVwDHCRzZTYbJglBscc+vDSBWq+7r4VM50BqUXMiWcqP7zb/SKb 2exuCqEwcTFZDaBX50H//exoTYzSl35BgpU8iuwTVjKshXl1OMoIHryVe1n2+5IXCNgo xbqQ7PVQ1iW2Zve+30y8NqvrsNeV5LotS35MMixNae9/8ybFwv0nm3UGKX4S13fYmBcP WQikZYsPieeWaBQ7kyQuV9GYlmFPAyMGrI8LFeKq/HrMSNbWmQ0u63SNT23O03lRJGSF TmzdFMsTRdImLFOukBO88n21wOEzsdEVcn+CQwYnmSLMpDP15k0ndPwFLqO5g4jTK1av jk3g== 8ndXEJ0IFFsq47RKCn6PZ4Cj0AdCniujnR28M1o= Mon, 14 Jun 2021 17:30:02 -0700 (PDT) References: From: Richard Lindsay Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 19:29:50 -0500 To: rmf3860 rmf3860 Subject: Re: [6pack] Cylinder Head Bolts Cc: TR6 <6pack@autox.team.net> Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6701045895518895701== --00000000000024335405c4c3134c Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Choose a long thread bolt then cut a long groove or two down the length of the threads using a cut-off wheel in your Dremel tool. That's all you need to clean the threads. On Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 7:11 PM rmf3860 rmf3860 wrote: > I=E2=80=99ve looked =E2=80=9Ceverywhere=E2=80=9D and cannot find a 7/16-2= 4 thread chaser tap to > clean out the block holes. I assume I=E2=80=99m correct about the 7/16-24= size. > > Thanks. > Bob Fabie > Fredericksburg, VA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/richardolindsay@gmail.com > > --00000000000024335405c4c3134c Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Choose a long thread bolt then cut a long groove or two d= own the length of the threads using a cut-off wheel in your Dremel tool. Th= at's all you need to clean the threads.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 7:11 PM rm= f3860 rmf3860 <bobfabie@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
I=E2=80=99ve looked = =E2=80=9Ceverywhere=E2=80=9D and cannot find a 7/16-24 thread chaser tap to= clean out the block holes. I assume I=E2=80=99m correct about the 7/16-24 = size.

Thanks.
Bob Fa= bie
Fredericksburg, VA
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Mon, 14 Jun 2021 19:27:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from impout001.msg.chrl.nc.charter.net (unknown [47.43.20.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE9CA10D5 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 18:53:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DataServer ([96.32.0.131]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id sxKilDhU2058isxKilcrQs; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 00:53:36 +0000 Authentication-Results: charter.net; none a=PIguCUnX3M8esQCxuEuk/A==:117 a=PIguCUnX3M8esQCxuEuk/A==:17 a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=5lucXWJGAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=VD8V-WPLfIyBe9UdGfEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=mJu0a544Vc4A:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=WcItV_7GPDZWy0crg5QA:9 a=r9_EBtEqDwug5ZEg:21 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=tjNemD4wtFR24VrVMQME:22 a=GGGinmgZRQXmVEG1E52S:22 From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" To: "'rmf3860 rmf3860'" , <6pack@autox.team.net> References: Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 20:53:37 -0400 Thread-Index: AQF6TFY2M727cbovMy5QCQCcRtdfd6vOZsEQ Content-Language: en-us +ug1pvdLTn4J6aDkc6bot2wH8BphMuVHSnbZKXqWWHpjzAgloRoD2cF8MpST0cI2HZwiIJlnQ63q/DayscKkW9gyl3uiu26CIGw= Subject: Re: [6pack] Cylinder Head Bolts Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============2340580608148819373== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A9_01D7615F.594090F0" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A9_01D7615F.594090F0 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob =E2=80=93 Check that thread size again. 7/16 SAE UNF thread is 20 = Threads per Inch. There is a 7/16-24 thread size listed in the = McMaster-Carr catalog but I=E2=80=99m not sure if that is what you want. =20 https://www.mcmaster.com/taps/general-purpose-taps-9/=20 =20 Alex Thomson =20 From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of rmf3860 = rmf3860 Sent: Monday, June 14, 2021 8:11 PM To: 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Cylinder Head Bolts =20 I=E2=80=99ve looked =E2=80=9Ceverywhere=E2=80=9D and cannot find a = 7/16-24 thread chaser tap to clean out the block holes. I assume = I=E2=80=99m correct about the 7/16-24 size. =20 Thanks. Bob Fabie Fredericksburg, VA ------=_NextPart_000_00A9_01D7615F.594090F0 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Bob =E2=80=93 = Check that thread size again. 7/16 SAE UNF thread is 20 Threads per = Inch. =C2=A0There is a 7/16-24 thread size listed in the McMaster-Carr = catalog but I=E2=80=99m not sure if that is what you = want.

 

https://ww= w.mcmaster.com/taps/general-purpose-taps-9/

 

Alex = Thomson

 

From:= = 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of rmf3860 = rmf3860
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2021 8:11 PM
To: = 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: [6pack] Cylinder Head = Bolts

 

I=E2=80=99ve looked =E2=80=9Ceverywhere=E2=80=9D and = cannot find a 7/16-24 thread chaser tap to clean out the block holes. I = assume I=E2=80=99m correct about the 7/16-24 size.

 

Thanks.

Bob Fabie

Fredericksburg, = VA

------=_NextPart_000_00A9_01D7615F.594090F0-- --===============2340580608148819373== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack --===============2340580608148819373==-- From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 14 21:21:20 2021 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 805E9A1512 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 21:21:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ot1-f53.google.com (unknown [209.85.210.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CDAFA10C2 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 21:00:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ot1-f53.google.com with SMTP id o17-20020a9d76510000b02903eabfc221a9so12955282otl.0 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 20:00:35 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Oo2O/sxrjC+ghC8cgKZZIhlhzDidorwN8Si8ug0PviM=; b=gIsTd9pTsYq7pnJoAyAWyNn33i9A29FcoUioUOsPv9fberVo7yhl9Wuf/Jbl2Xkt8q xfbGICvvVy5EzKpqd1y3HdEXXWuOQDg8qRy84/OawqcsZWeJjCXHgyf1jO9K9mwREn4V XpryjYROFBWVdvPqpTID2qvLZ6PH4qq0S1Ffoibp4vo1cJehs/beecqN7fuVb8mu8NQg dinB/WFjA9E3jVxxGjLXnM4a9aLU4KF2dvXcScVA96mk70tQJOJ3KCO89nAidu8tvEC/ kThiPet8Y70F+HB+4yNFmHN2uXEy+vLKmoYi3GoXSWlvwXC9CzmpWUlwxnLl79oaXLAf pZtA== d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Oo2O/sxrjC+ghC8cgKZZIhlhzDidorwN8Si8ug0PviM=; b=RGqWwcVjVYTh0uBi57WdcROq3GgHA9LlmgXkvZ2fkz4Pvb84G3kC1WLgGV6s+EAzQn NhNsY0TvXJT4MGAKBIyE7tpCrvnpauRBiAPDade/u07x4Ou8dsPWSIGX+lsxmTf6B7kv dSH/aHsaQlVv72L2fxIUeqRUmWZ0w/+hlIj++g9EYo0meVt4LHyrgfEhrnsC0AIgSsX9 ZDvvrOicWnAtbRFIO+Zjbq3UJh0+5xuciCkI4cyu1z1d6wFdrcgZWfKQybwu/BD/jyyr WPWBgsOV5eyHxi92jJyYBgP+Nm9RnjbINeAd0UBBjMPv+LKHn5p4y+k5LziXn7UIC9nt AF7A== prRap7Fjwy5XOGmDU9vhO2MAy/OtKQKGw8GQ91ecq2nmYPM= Mon, 14 Jun 2021 20:00:34 -0700 (PDT) References: <00a801d76180$e04fbff0$a0ef3fd0$@charter.net> From: rmf3860 rmf3860 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 23:00:24 -0400 To: 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] Cylinder Head Bolts Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7157905683833818489== --0000000000008490bb05c4c52d17 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gents. Thank you Dick, Janet, Richard, and Alex for responding. I assumed, incorrectly, that the bolt was a 7/16 -24, but I=E2=80=99ve been informed = it=E2=80=99s 7/16-20. I=E2=80=99ve also been taught how to make a thread cleaning =E2=80= =9Ctap=E2=80=9D. Thanks to all. Bob On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 7:53 PM Alex & Janet Thomson < aljlthomson@charter.net> wrote: > Bob =E2=80=93 Check that thread size again. 7/16 SAE UNF thread is 20 Thr= eads per > Inch. There is a 7/16-24 thread size listed in the McMaster-Carr catalog > but I=E2=80=99m not sure if that is what you want. > > > > https://www.mcmaster.com/taps/general-purpose-taps-9/ > > > > Alex Thomson > > > > *From:* 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *rmf386= 0 > rmf3860 > *Sent:* Monday, June 14, 2021 8:11 PM > *To:* 6pack@autox.team.net > *Subject:* [6pack] Cylinder Head Bolts > > > > I=E2=80=99ve looked =E2=80=9Ceverywhere=E2=80=9D and cannot find a 7/16-2= 4 thread chaser tap to > clean out the block holes. I assume I=E2=80=99m correct about the 7/16-24= size. > > > > Thanks. > > Bob Fabie > > Fredericksburg, VA > --0000000000008490bb05c4c52d17 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gents.

Thank you Dick, Janet, Richard, and Alex for responding. I assumed, i= ncorrectly, that the bolt was a 7/16 -24, =C2=A0but I=E2=80=99ve been infor= med it=E2=80=99s 7/16-20. I=E2=80=99ve also been taught how to make a threa= d cleaning =E2=80=9Ctap=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0

Thanks to all.=C2=A0

Bob

On Mon, Jun 14, 202= 1 at 7:53 PM Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson@charter.net> wrote:
<= p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bob =E2=80=93 Check that thread size again. 7/16 SAE UNF thr= ead is 20 Threads per Inch.=C2=A0 There is a 7/16-24 thread size listed in = the McMaster-Carr catalog but I=E2=80=99m not sure if that is what you want= .

=C2=A0

https://www.mcmaster.com/taps/general-purpose-taps-9/

=C2=A0

Alex Thomson

=C2=A0

From: 6pac= k [mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net] = On Behalf Of rmf3860 rmf3860=
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2= 021 8:11 PM
To: 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: [6pack] Cylinder Head Bolts

=C2=A0

I=E2=80=99ve looked =E2=80=9Ceverywhere=E2=80=9D and cannot find a 7/16-2= 4 thread chaser tap to clean out the block holes. I assume I=E2=80=99m corr= ect about the 7/16-24 size.

=C2=A0

Thanks.

Bob Fabie

Fredericksburg, VA

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Tue, 15 Jun 2021 04:31:27 +0000 Received: by kubenode508.mail-prod1.omega.bf1.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 696863bf5b70791e98c1f7ae3f6c9df1; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 04:31:22 +0000 (UTC) References: <00a801d76180$e04fbff0$a0ef3fd0$@charter.net> From: Richard Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 21:31:18 -0700 To: rmf3860 rmf3860 Subject: Re: [6pack] Cylinder Head Bolts Cc: 6pack@autox.team.net Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5711715373574038188== boundary=Apple-Mail-FC3BF56C-F7D3-4497-92A9-9E15FEA7A918 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-FC3BF56C-F7D3-4497-92A9-9E15FEA7A918 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, if the threads are decent they can be revived by making this "tool".=20= The 7/16x20tpi tap and die is usually included in a set as sold by Sears and= others.=20 Dick=20 > On Jun 14, 2021, at 8:00 PM, rmf3860 rmf3860 wrote: >=20 > Gents. >=20 > Thank you Dick, Janet, Richard, and Alex for responding. I assumed, incorr= ectly, that the bolt was a 7/16 -24, but I=E2=80=99ve been informed it=E2=80= =99s 7/16-20. I=E2=80=99ve also been taught how to make a thread cleaning =E2= =80=9Ctap=E2=80=9D.=20 >=20 > Thanks to all.=20 >=20 > Bob >=20 >> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 7:53 PM Alex & Janet Thomson wrote: >> Bob =E2=80=93 Check that thread size again. 7/16 SAE UNF thread is 20 Thr= eads per Inch. There is a 7/16-24 thread size listed in the McMaster-Carr c= atalog but I=E2=80=99m not sure if that is what you want. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> https://www.mcmaster.com/taps/general-purpose-taps-9/ >>=20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Alex Thomson >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of rmf3860 rm= f3860 >> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2021 8:11 PM >> To: 6pack@autox.team.net >> Subject: [6pack] Cylinder Head Bolts >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> I=E2=80=99ve looked =E2=80=9Ceverywhere=E2=80=9D and cannot find a 7/16-2= 4 thread chaser tap to clean out the block holes. I assume I=E2=80=99m corre= ct about the 7/16-24 size. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Thanks. >>=20 >> Bob Fabie >>=20 >> Fredericksburg, VA >>=20 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >=20 >=20 > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >=20 > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/taylorturb= o6@yahoo.com >=20 --Apple-Mail-FC3BF56C-F7D3-4497-92A9-9E15FEA7A918 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, if the threads are dec= ent they can be revived by making this "tool". 
The 7/16x20tp= i tap and die is usually included in a set as sold by Sears and others. = ;
Dick 

On Jun 14, 2021, at 8:00 PM, rmf3860 rm= f3860 <bobfabie@gmail.com> w= rote:

Gen= ts.

Thank you Dick, Janet= , Richard, and Alex for responding. I assumed, incorrectly, that the bolt wa= s a 7/16 -24,  but I=E2=80=99ve been informed it=E2=80=99s 7/16-20. I=E2= =80=99ve also been taught how to make a thread cleaning =E2=80=9Ctap=E2=80=9D= . 

Thanks to all.&nb= sp;

Bob
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On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 7:53 PM Alex & Janet Thomson= <aljlthomso= n@charter.net> wrote:

Bob =E2=80=93 Check that thr= ead size again. 7/16 SAE UNF thread is 20 Threads per Inch.  There is a= 7/16-24 thread size listed in the McMaster-Carr catalog but I=E2=80=99m not= sure if that is what you want.<= /u>

 

https://www.mcmaster.com/taps/general-purpose-taps= -9/

 

Alex Thomson=

 

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Subject: [6pack] Cylinder Head Bolts

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I=E2=80= =99ve looked =E2=80=9Ceverywhere=E2=80=9D and cannot find a 7/16-24 thread c= haser tap to clean out the block holes. I assume I=E2=80=99m correct about t= he 7/16-24 size.

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https://www.mcmaster.com/taps/thread-size~7-16-24/?SrchEntryWebPart_InpBox= =3Dtaps =20 Dave=20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: rmf3860 rmf3860 To: 6pack@autox.team.net Sent: Mon, Jun 14, 2021 7:11 pm Subject: [6pack] Cylinder Head Bolts I=E2=80=99ve looked =E2=80=9Ceverywhere=E2=80=9D and cannot find a 7/16-24 = thread chaser tap to clean out the block holes. I assume I=E2=80=99m correc= t about the 7/16-24 size. Thanks.Bob FabieFredericksburg, VA_________________________________________= ______ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack @cs.com ------=_Part_128446_975142494.1623761677172 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Have you tried McMaster-Carr?

https://www.mcmaster.com/taps/thread-size~7-16-24/?Sr= chEntryWebPart_InpBox=3Dtaps


Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: rmf3860 rmf3860 <bobfabie@gmail.com>
To: 6pack@autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, Jun 14, 2021 7:11 pm
Subject: [6pack] Cylinder Head Bolts

I=E2=80=99ve looked =E2=80=9Ceverywhere=E2=80=9D = and cannot find a 7/16-24 thread chaser tap to clean out the block holes. I= assume I=E2=80=99m correct about the 7/16-24 size.

Thanks.
Bob Fabie
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------=_Part_128446_975142494.1623761677172-- --===============4745706194951348679== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack --===============4745706194951348679==-- From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 15 16:40:23 2021 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B274EA1291 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 16:40:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from omta015.useast.a.cloudfilter.net (unknown [34.195.253.206]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37D79A149D for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 15:42:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cxr.smtp.a.cloudfilter.net ([10.0.17.211]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id tFfSlHqzAMRfUtGovlFxMh; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 21:42:05 +0000 Received: from app-7.app.iad.rs.oxcs.net ([146.20.112.67]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id tGoulOs1m079CtGovlmLrG; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 21:42:05 +0000 a=IN5e7ORV7WapKVHgxEPmgA==:117 a=VqlfCBswDn0A:10 a=OSrIkC3arBUA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=Vk8w7bgs7b-OtFnFcgQA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=xEX1ASj6dViA36_dB1AA:9 a=XpPVZplTEvNPZnrz:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=GGGinmgZRQXmVEG1E52S:22 a=qrIFiuKZe2vaD64auk6j:22 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 17:42:04 -0400 (EDT) From: BILL WELLBAUM To: rmf3860 rmf3860 , 6pack@autox.team.net References: Importance: Medium Lcx54krPEngF46Vv8oFvSub2oJrTh2/jxzb/5+iR2In42ZBOQg1SmwmiUS9+dFjNe1MitTquV7TiRiuEm7Ev9/wdtB90rG68e5Ywxg5OysYJ3W8j5Buulzjn Subject: Re: [6pack] Cylinder Head Bolts Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0258961805514253717== boundary="----=_Part_2714198_2013786401.1623793324873" ------=_Part_2714198_2013786401.1623793324873 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You should be looking for two taps--5/16 x 24 and a 3/8 x 24. Those two wil= l cover almost all block holes. > On June 14, 2021 at 8:11 PM rmf3860 rmf3860 wrote: >=20 > I=E2=80=99ve looked =E2=80=9Ceverywhere=E2=80=9D and cannot find a 7/= 16-24 thread chaser tap to clean out the block holes. I assume I=E2=80=99m = correct about the 7/16-24 size. >=20 > Thanks. > Bob Fabie > Fredericksburg, VA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >=20 >=20 > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >=20 > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/wcwel= lbaum@cox.net >=20 >=20 ------=_Part_2714198_2013786401.1623793324873 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 =20 You should be looking for two taps--5/16 x 24 and a 3/8 x 24. Those two w= ill cover almost all block holes.

On June 14, 2021 at 8:11 PM rmf3860 rmf3860 <bobfabie@gmail.com> = wrote:

I=E2=80=99ve looked =E2=80=9Ceverywhere=E2=80=9D and cannot find a 7= /16-24 thread chaser tap to clean out the block holes. I assume I=E2=80=99m= correct about the 7/16-24 size.

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  ------=_Part_2714198_2013786401.1623793324873-- --===============0258961805514253717== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack --===============0258961805514253717==-- From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 15 16:46:22 2021 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E7AA135A for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 16:46:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from omta016.useast.a.cloudfilter.net (unknown [34.195.253.207]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7625A149C for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 15:49:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cxr.smtp.a.cloudfilter.net ([10.0.16.209]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id tCqglHfu2MRfUtGwJlFyj5; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 21:49:44 +0000 Received: from app-7.app.iad.rs.oxcs.net ([146.20.112.67]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id tGwIl6lZJdnmbtGwIlvKqy; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 21:49:43 +0000 a=IN5e7ORV7WapKVHgxEPmgA==:117 a=VqlfCBswDn0A:10 a=OSrIkC3arBUA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=xjZJUHBcaV4VTpv9_08A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=psXREZS0v_AA:10 a=xEX1ASj6dViA36_dB1AA:9 a=XpPVZplTEvNPZnrz:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=GGGinmgZRQXmVEG1E52S:22 a=qrIFiuKZe2vaD64auk6j:22 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 17:49:42 -0400 (EDT) From: BILL WELLBAUM To: rmf3860 rmf3860 , 6pack@autox.team.net References: Importance: Medium V66VksnjN4VM2MJAPn/He8MfF7+bngqTv3ciB2DXuPrY3FMXJamf/so5Q/DA5I/FbJHwoLHelrmuiPnqi+4GyJ3eEKuqv3wTC9sW6SGlk/HPLqV1vQzbd75j Subject: Re: [6pack] Cylinder Head Bolts Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8851044589076715161== boundary="----=_Part_2714346_2002602615.1623793782282" ------=_Part_2714346_2002602615.1623793782282 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And the larger block holes are 7/16 x 20 TPI. > On June 14, 2021 at 8:11 PM rmf3860 rmf3860 wrote: >=20 > I=E2=80=99ve looked =E2=80=9Ceverywhere=E2=80=9D and cannot find a 7/= 16-24 thread chaser tap to clean out the block holes. I assume I=E2=80=99m = correct about the 7/16-24 size. >=20 > Thanks. > Bob Fabie > Fredericksburg, VA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >=20 >=20 > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >=20 > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/wcwel= lbaum@cox.net >=20 >=20 ------=_Part_2714346_2002602615.1623793782282 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 =20 And the larger block holes are 7/16 x 20 TPI.

On June 14, 2021 at 8:11 PM rmf3860 rmf3860 <bobfabie@gmail.com> = wrote:

I=E2=80=99ve looked =E2=80=9Ceverywhere=E2=80=9D and cannot find a 7= /16-24 thread chaser tap to clean out the block holes. I assume I=E2=80=99m= correct about the 7/16-24 size.

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Fellow Enthusiasts,

I know this is an = old topic, but products and user experiences change over time, so in the mi= dst of my engine/trans rebuild, I thought it best to get the group=E2=80=99= s current collective wisdom.=C2=A0

My current set up (which I intend to replace) is a Luk disc, pre= ssure plate and RHP T/O bearing. The T/O bearing has left an indentation on= the pressure plate fingers. There=E2=80=99s no more than 5,000 miles on th= e clutch system.=C2=A0

W= hile idling with the clutch out, there was always a whine-which I believe w= as the TO bearing spinning against the pressure plate=E2=80=99s straight fi= ngers. The initial clutch engagement was somewhat sudden, not smooth.=C2=A0=

What are your experienc= es and recommendations?

= Thanks.=C2=A0
Bob Fabie
Frede= ricksburg, VA
--0000000000003f787005c4fd2016-- --===============8935521122093321042== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack --===============8935521122093321042==-- From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 17 18:20:48 2021 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA211A0D33 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2021 18:20:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-03v.sys.comcast.net (unknown [96.114.154.162]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7025FA0D12 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Thu, 17 Jun 2021 17:53:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.233]) by resqmta-po-03v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id u1Uolvt1YTnSbu1pPlB77n; Thu, 17 Jun 2021 23:53:43 +0000 s=20190202a; t=1623974023; bh=UnUx6yQgXd5FnCpcZSy5ZvQoc9s9zrPsbe1PC0+LO00=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=1GXxYznlmD/Lb+dcFwwn3nY1RXKq65zlb/YQ5j/GOWd50qIDC0D1pnrgBYqcIorYI aG8L5NjOaOCEv1MswtYqh2hHP1/hs2rS/4C/bEk6unD7G+CJ41au7OXNYzPdFMahex CHKKT6+X5B2S5lbz/Suzo/luFe2KPSgWk6DGe5OQh55DKkdGhM0TbAJLLhlYX1K7xX sdE9RX9uKLVnHQ0Q4lS72/lbMOmDWGsXrudiW1z6YtvlTanuIuzjSwC9JdkpVqOFrY dFeZM46YAuHlh0KkPig50esJSgYr7F8W32hEJQfV9T3WFdWLUZvTSa360nrOxv6Qgu xJRjRXHaeG0vg== Received: from oxapp-asc-71o.email.comcast.net ([96.118.219.251]) by resomta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPS id u1pPlQinQuwnku1pPlIbgP; Thu, 17 Jun 2021 23:53:43 +0000 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2021 19:53:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Walling To: rmf3860 rmf3860 , "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> References: Importance: Normal Subject: Re: [6pack] Clutch Set Recommendations Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4656243453195723882== boundary="----=_Part_272772_2106404430.1623974023043" ------=_Part_272772_2106404430.1623974023043 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Roadster Factory has a complete kit for clutch replacements. It's not c= heap, but who wants to keep doing a clutch job every 5,000 miles? It is cal= led the "Magic Clutch Kit: and is part number RFK 1109. This is probably th= e best solution for clutch replacement on the market. Good luck! > On 06/17/2021 5:45 PM rmf3860 rmf3860 wrote: > =20 > =20 > Fellow Enthusiasts, > =20 > I know this is an old topic, but products and user experiences change= over time, so in the midst of my engine/trans rebuild, I thought it best t= o get the group=E2=80=99s current collective wisdom.=20 > =20 > My current set up (which I intend to replace) is a Luk disc, pressure= plate and RHP T/O bearing. The T/O bearing has left an indentation on the = pressure plate fingers. There=E2=80=99s no more than 5,000 miles on the clu= tch system.=20 > =20 > While idling with the clutch out, there was always a whine-which I be= lieve was the TO bearing spinning against the pressure plate=E2=80=99s stra= ight fingers. The initial clutch engagement was somewhat sudden, not smooth= .=20 > =20 > What are your experiences and recommendations? > =20 > Thanks.=20 > Bob Fabie > Fredericksburg, VA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >=20 >=20 > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >=20 > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/pdqtr= 6@comcast.net >=20 >=20 ------=_Part_272772_2106404430.1623974023043 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 =20
The Roadster Fa= ctory has a complete kit for clutch replacements. It's not cheap, but who w= ants to keep doing a clutch job every 5,000 miles? It is called the "Magic = Clutch Kit: and is part number RFK 1109. This is probably the best solution= for clutch replacement on the market. Good luck!
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My current set up (which I intend to replace) is a Luk disc, pressure = plate and RHP T/O bearing. The T/O bearing has left an indentation on the p= ressure plate fingers. There=E2=80=99s no more than 5,000 miles on the clut= ch system. 
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While idling with the clutch out, there was always a whine-which I bel= ieve was the TO bearing spinning against the pressure plate=E2=80=99s strai= ght fingers. The initial clutch engagement was somewhat sudden, not smooth.=  
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What are your experiences and recommendations?
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Bob Fabie
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Fredericksburg, VA
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Fri, 18 Jun 2021 18:13:25 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2021 18:13:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Timothy Holbrook To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>, rmf3860 rmf3860 References: Subject: Re: [6pack] Clutch Set Recommendations Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7351270491340778260== boundary="----=_Part_2417845_472872539.1624040003902" ------=_Part_2417845_472872539.1624040003902 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Bob, Something that is VERY important is ensuring you have got all of the correc= t bolts in place for the bell housing (that is, the bolts that hold the tra= nsmission to the engine) and you put the right bolts in the right holes.=C2= =A0 Several of the bolts are actually "locating pins". They are a specific = diameter with a shoulder (none-threaded portion) and must go in the specifi= c proper holes.=C2=A0 These ensure proper alignment of the trans and engine= , and therefore also ensure proper alignment of the throwout bearing and pr= essure plate.=C2=A0 Cheap insurance - buy all new bolts so you know you've = got the correct proper bolts, and spend time carefully ensuring you put the= right bolts in the right holes.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Regards,Tim Holbrook1971 TR6 (which went through 3 throwout bearings in 199= 9 when I was daily driving it) On Thursday, June 17, 2021, 06:35:58 PM EDT, rmf3860 rmf3860 wrote: =20 =20 Fellow Enthusiasts, I know this is an old topic, but products and user experiences change over = time, so in the midst of my engine/trans rebuild, I thought it best to get = the group=E2=80=99s current collective wisdom.=C2=A0 My current set up (which I intend to replace) is a Luk disc, pressure plate= and RHP T/O bearing. The T/O bearing has left an indentation on the pressu= re plate fingers. There=E2=80=99s no more than 5,000 miles on the clutch sy= stem.=C2=A0 While idling with the clutch out, there was always a whine-which I believe = was the TO bearing spinning against the pressure plate=E2=80=99s straight f= ingers. The initial clutch engagement was somewhat sudden, not smooth.=C2= =A0 What are your experiences and recommendations? Thanks.=C2=A0Bob FabieFredericksburg, VA___________________________________= ____________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack o.com =20 ------=_Part_2417845_472872539.1624040003902 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Bob,

So= mething that is VERY important is ensuring you have got all of the correct = bolts in place for the bell housing (that is, the bolts that hold the trans= mission to the engine) and you put the right bolts in the right holes. = ; Several of the bolts are actually "locating pins". They are a specific di= ameter with a shoulder (none-threaded portion) and must go in the specific = proper holes.  These ensure proper alignment of the trans and engine, = and therefore also ensure proper alignment of the throwout bearing and pres= sure plate.  Cheap insurance - buy all new bolts so you know you've go= t the correct proper bolts, and spend time carefully ensuring you put the r= ight bolts in the right holes.  

Regards,
=
Tim Holbrook
1971 TR6 (which went through 3 throwout bearings in 19= 99 when I was daily driving it)

=20
=20
On Thursday, June 17, 2021, 06:35:58 PM EDT, rmf3860 rm= f3860 <bobfabie@gmail.com> wrote:


Fellow Enthu= siasts,

I know this is an old topic, but products and us= er experiences change over time, so in the midst of my engine/trans rebuild= , I thought it best to get the group=E2=80=99s current collective wisdom.&n= bsp;

My current set up (which I intend to replace)= is a Luk disc, pressure plate and RHP T/O bearing. The T/O bearing has lef= t an indentation on the pressure plate fingers. There=E2=80=99s no more tha= n 5,000 miles on the clutch system. 

While id= ling with the clutch out, there was always a whine-which I believe was the = TO bearing spinning against the pressure plate=E2=80=99s straight fingers. = The initial clutch engagement was somewhat sudden, not smooth. 
<= div>
What are your experiences and recommendations?

Thanks. 
Bob Fabie
Fredericksburg,= VA
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TOM WALLING: I may be leaning toward the =E2=80=9CMagic Clutch Kit=E2=80=9D= . Do they specify the brands of each component, or do you know from having installed the kit? DICK TAYLOR: Would you recommend TRF=E2=80=99s kit, just their TO bearing, = or some other combination? Is this the bearing that requires a counter spring on the slave? MARK BRADAKIS: Great story. Too bad you had to disassemble everything a second time after hearing the crunching sounds. Do you recommend TRF kit or something else? TIMOTHY HOLBROOK: Yes, I=E2=80=99m aware of the importance of proper alignm= ent and will ensure that the studs and bolts are properly in place. Thanks again to all. This is a very helpful resource to have. Bob Fabie Fredericksburg, VA On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 1:13 PM Timothy Holbrook wrote: > Hi Bob, > > Something that is VERY important is ensuring you have got all of the > correct bolts in place for the bell housing (that is, the bolts that hold > the transmission to the engine) and you put the right bolts in the right > holes. Several of the bolts are actually "locating pins". They are a > specific diameter with a shoulder (none-threaded portion) and must go in > the specific proper holes. These ensure proper alignment of the trans an= d > engine, and therefore also ensure proper alignment of the throwout bearin= g > and pressure plate. Cheap insurance - buy all new bolts so you know you'= ve > got the correct proper bolts, and spend time carefully ensuring you put t= he > right bolts in the right holes. > > Regards, > Tim Holbrook > 1971 TR6 (which went through 3 throwout bearings in 1999 when I was daily > driving it) > > On Thursday, June 17, 2021, 06:35:58 PM EDT, rmf3860 rmf3860 < > bobfabie@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Fellow Enthusiasts, > > I know this is an old topic, but products and user experiences change ove= r > time, so in the midst of my engine/trans rebuild, I thought it best to ge= t > the group=E2=80=99s current collective wisdom. > > My current set up (which I intend to replace) is a Luk disc, pressure > plate and RHP T/O bearing. The T/O bearing has left an indentation on the > pressure plate fingers. There=E2=80=99s no more than 5,000 miles on the c= lutch > system. > > While idling with the clutch out, there was always a whine-which I believ= e > was the TO bearing spinning against the pressure plate=E2=80=99s straight= fingers. > The initial clutch engagement was somewhat sudden, not smooth. > > What are your experiences and recommendations? > > Thanks. > Bob Fabie > Fredericksburg, VA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tjh173@yahoo.com > > --00000000000086d83405c5106a0f Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks to all who responded to my post, an= d a few follow up questions/comments:

BERRY PRICE: You installed a LUK clutch and stated, =E2=80=9C= =E2=80=A6and its been trouble.=E2=80=9D Did you mean it=E2=80=99s been no t= rouble?

TOM WALLING: I m= ay be leaning toward the =E2=80=9CMagic Clutch Kit=E2=80=9D. Do they specif= y the brands of each component, or do you know from having installed the ki= t?

DICK TAYLOR: Would yo= u recommend TRF=E2=80=99s kit, just their TO bearing, or some other combina= tion?=C2=A0 Is this the bearing that requires a counter spring on the slave= ?

MARK BRADAKIS: Great s= tory. Too bad you had to disassemble everything a second time after hearing= the crunching sounds. Do you recommend TRF kit or something else?

TIMOTHY HOLBROOK: Yes, I=E2=80= =99m aware of the importance of proper alignment and will ensure that the s= tuds and bolts are properly in place.

Thanks again to all. This is a very helpful resource to have.=

Bob Fabie
Fredericksburg, VA



On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 1:13 PM Timothy Holbrook <tjh173@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Bob,

Something that is VERY important is ensuring you have got all of t= he correct bolts in place for the bell housing (that is, the bolts that hol= d the transmission to the engine) and you put the right bolts in the right = holes.=C2=A0 Several of the bolts are actually "locating pins". T= hey are a specific diameter with a shoulder (none-threaded portion) and mus= t go in the specific proper holes.=C2=A0 These ensure proper alignment of t= he trans and engine, and therefore also ensure proper alignment of the thro= wout bearing and pressure plate.=C2=A0 Cheap insurance - buy all new bolts = so you know you've got the correct proper bolts, and spend time careful= ly ensuring you put the right bolts in the right holes.=C2=A0=C2=A0

Regards,
Ti= m Holbrook
1971 TR6 (which went through 3 throwout be= arings in 1999 when I was daily driving it)

=20
=20
On Thursday, June 17, 2021, 06:35:58 PM EDT, rmf3860 rm= f3860 <bobfabie@= gmail.com> wrote:


Fellow Enthusiasts,

I know this is an old topic, but products and user experiences chang= e over time, so in the midst of my engine/trans rebuild, I thought it best = to get the group=E2=80=99s current collective wisdom.=C2=A0

<= /div>
My current set up (which I intend to replace) is a Luk disc, pres= sure plate and RHP T/O bearing. The T/O bearing has left an indentation on = the pressure plate fingers. There=E2=80=99s no more than 5,000 miles on the= clutch system.=C2=A0

While idling with the clutch= out, there was always a whine-which I believe was the TO bearing spinning = against the pressure plate=E2=80=99s straight fingers. The initial clutch e= ngagement was somewhat sudden, not smooth.=C2=A0

W= hat are your experiences and recommendations?

Than= ks.=C2=A0
Bob Fabie
Fredericksburg, VA
_________= ______________________________________
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I don't have one, have heard many say it is a good kit, and I am sure it is, but that particular feature gives me a little concern. Greg Lemon TR250 On Fri, Jun 18, 2021, 4:11 PM rmf3860 rmf3860 wrote: > > Thanks to all who responded to my post, and a few follow up > questions/comments: > > BERRY PRICE: You installed a LUK clutch and stated, =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6and= its been > trouble.=E2=80=9D Did you mean it=E2=80=99s been no trouble? > > TOM WALLING: I may be leaning toward the =E2=80=9CMagic Clutch Kit=E2=80= =9D. Do they > specify the brands of each component, or do you know from having installe= d > the kit? > > DICK TAYLOR: Would you recommend TRF=E2=80=99s kit, just their TO bearing= , or some > other combination? Is this the bearing that requires a counter spring on > the slave? > > MARK BRADAKIS: Great story. Too bad you had to disassemble everything a > second time after hearing the crunching sounds. Do you recommend TRF kit = or > something else? > > TIMOTHY HOLBROOK: Yes, I=E2=80=99m aware of the importance of proper alig= nment and > will ensure that the studs and bolts are properly in place. > > Thanks again to all. This is a very helpful resource to have. > > Bob Fabie > Fredericksburg, VA > > > > On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 1:13 PM Timothy Holbrook wrote= : > >> Hi Bob, >> >> Something that is VERY important is ensuring you have got all of the >> correct bolts in place for the bell housing (that is, the bolts that hol= d >> the transmission to the engine) and you put the right bolts in the right >> holes. Several of the bolts are actually "locating pins". They are a >> specific diameter with a shoulder (none-threaded portion) and must go in >> the specific proper holes. These ensure proper alignment of the trans a= nd >> engine, and therefore also ensure proper alignment of the throwout beari= ng >> and pressure plate. Cheap insurance - buy all new bolts so you know you= 've >> got the correct proper bolts, and spend time carefully ensuring you put = the >> right bolts in the right holes. >> >> Regards, >> Tim Holbrook >> 1971 TR6 (which went through 3 throwout bearings in 1999 when I was dail= y >> driving it) >> >> On Thursday, June 17, 2021, 06:35:58 PM EDT, rmf3860 rmf3860 < >> bobfabie@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Fellow Enthusiasts, >> >> I know this is an old topic, but products and user experiences change >> over time, so in the midst of my engine/trans rebuild, I thought it best= to >> get the group=E2=80=99s current collective wisdom. >> >> My current set up (which I intend to replace) is a Luk disc, pressure >> plate and RHP T/O bearing. The T/O bearing has left an indentation on th= e >> pressure plate fingers. There=E2=80=99s no more than 5,000 miles on the = clutch >> system. >> >> While idling with the clutch out, there was always a whine-which I >> believe was the TO bearing spinning against the pressure plate=E2=80=99s= straight >> fingers. The initial clutch engagement was somewhat sudden, not smooth. >> >> What are your experiences and recommendations? >> >> Thanks. >> Bob Fabie >> Fredericksburg, VA >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.96 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> >> >> 6pack@autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tjh173@yahoo.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/grglmn@gmail.com > > --00000000000016ea7105c5115b50 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I may be wrong, but I think the TRF Magic Clutch Kit has = the slave cylinder inside the bell housing.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I don't have on= e, have heard many say it is a good kit, and I am sure it is, but that part= icular feature gives me a little concern.


Greg Lemon
<= div dir=3D"auto">TR250

On Fri, Jun 18, 2021, 4:11 PM rmf3860 rmf= 3860 <bobfabie@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks to all who responded to my = post, and a few follow up questions/comments:

BERRY PRICE: You installed a LUK clutch and stated, = =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6and its been trouble.=E2=80=9D Did you mean it=E2=80=99s = been no trouble?

TOM WAL= LING: I may be leaning toward the =E2=80=9CMagic Clutch Kit=E2=80=9D. Do th= ey specify the brands of each component, or do you know from having install= ed the kit?

DICK TAYLOR:= Would you recommend TRF=E2=80=99s kit, just their TO bearing, or some othe= r combination?=C2=A0 Is this the bearing that requires a counter spring on = the slave?

MARK BRADAKIS= : Great story. Too bad you had to disassemble everything a second time afte= r hearing the crunching sounds. Do you recommend TRF kit or something else?=

TIMOTHY HOLBROOK: Yes, = I=E2=80=99m aware of the importance of proper alignment and will ensure tha= t the studs and bolts are properly in place.

Thanks again to all. This is a very helpful resource t= o have.

Bob Fabie
<= div dir=3D"auto">Fredericksburg, VA



On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 1:13 PM Timothy Holbrook <<= a href=3D"mailto:tjh173@yahoo.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"= _blank">tjh173@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Bob,

Something that is VERY important is ensuring you have got all of t= he correct bolts in place for the bell housing (that is, the bolts that hol= d the transmission to the engine) and you put the right bolts in the right = holes.=C2=A0 Several of the bolts are actually "locating pins". T= hey are a specific diameter with a shoulder (none-threaded portion) and mus= t go in the specific proper holes.=C2=A0 These ensure proper alignment of t= he trans and engine, and therefore also ensure proper alignment of the thro= wout bearing and pressure plate.=C2=A0 Cheap insurance - buy all new bolts = so you know you've got the correct proper bolts, and spend time careful= ly ensuring you put the right bolts in the right holes.=C2=A0=C2=A0

Regards,
Ti= m Holbrook
1971 TR6 (which went through 3 throwout be= arings in 1999 when I was daily driving it)

=20
=20
On Thursday, June 17, 2021, 06:35:58 PM EDT, rmf3860 rm= f3860 <bobfabie@gmail.com> wrote:


=
Fellow Enthusiasts,

I know this = is an old topic, but products and user experiences change over time, so in = the midst of my engine/trans rebuild, I thought it best to get the group=E2= =80=99s current collective wisdom.=C2=A0

My curren= t set up (which I intend to replace) is a Luk disc, pressure plate and RHP = T/O bearing. The T/O bearing has left an indentation on the pressure plate = fingers. There=E2=80=99s no more than 5,000 miles on the clutch system.=C2= =A0

While idling with the clutch out, there was al= ways a whine-which I believe was the TO bearing spinning against the pressu= re plate=E2=80=99s straight fingers. The initial clutch engagement was some= what sudden, not smooth.=C2=A0

What are your exper= iences and recommendations?

Thanks.=C2=A0
Bob Fabie
Fredericksburg, VA
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Fri, 18 Jun 2021 22:06:12 +0000 Received: by kubenode551.mail-prod1.omega.bf1.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID ec9264a9bab9e1ebf708ba5cf97fed47; Fri, 18 Jun 2021 22:06:09 +0000 (UTC) References: <122764982.2417846.1624040003904@mail.yahoo.com> From: Richard Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2021 15:06:05 -0700 To: Greg Lemon Subject: Re: [6pack] Thank You Re: Clutch Set Recommendations Cc: 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4235704241782209160== boundary=Apple-Mail-1A5EAF0F-9F1A-4FA5-BFCE-47F471B75B1A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-1A5EAF0F-9F1A-4FA5-BFCE-47F471B75B1A charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greg --- TRF's kit has an outside the box slave cylinder. You may be thinkin= g of the HVDA hydraulic throwout bearing which is inside the bell.=20 Dick T.=20 > On Jun 18, 2021, at 2:53 PM, Greg Lemon wrote: >=20 > I may be wrong, but I think the TRF Magic Clutch Kit has the slave cylinde= r inside the bell housing. I don't have one, have heard many say it is a g= ood kit, and I am sure it is, but that particular feature gives me a little c= oncern. >=20 >=20 > Greg Lemon > TR250 >=20 >> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021, 4:11 PM rmf3860 rmf3860 wrote:= >>=20 >> Thanks to all who responded to my post, and a few follow up questions/com= ments: >>=20 >> BERRY PRICE: You installed a LUK clutch and stated, =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6and= its been trouble.=E2=80=9D Did you mean it=E2=80=99s been no trouble? >>=20 >> TOM WALLING: I may be leaning toward the =E2=80=9CMagic Clutch Kit=E2=80=9D= . Do they specify the brands of each component, or do you know from having i= nstalled the kit? >>=20 >> DICK TAYLOR: Would you recommend TRF=E2=80=99s kit, just their TO bearing= , or some other combination? Is this the bearing that requires a counter sp= ring on the slave? >>=20 >> MARK BRADAKIS: Great story. Too bad you had to disassemble everything a s= econd time after hearing the crunching sounds. Do you recommend TRF kit or s= omething else? >>=20 >> TIMOTHY HOLBROOK: Yes, I=E2=80=99m aware of the importance of proper alig= nment and will ensure that the studs and bolts are properly in place. >>=20 >> Thanks again to all. This is a very helpful resource to have. >>=20 >> Bob Fabie >> Fredericksburg, VA >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 1:13 PM Timothy Holbrook wrot= e: >>> Hi Bob, >>>=20 >>> Something that is VERY important is ensuring you have got all of the cor= rect bolts in place for the bell housing (that is, the bolts that hold the t= ransmission to the engine) and you put the right bolts in the right holes. S= everal of the bolts are actually "locating pins". They are a specific diamet= er with a shoulder (none-threaded portion) and must go in the specific prope= r holes. These ensure proper alignment of the trans and engine, and therefo= re also ensure proper alignment of the throwout bearing and pressure plate. = Cheap insurance - buy all new bolts so you know you've got the correct prop= er bolts, and spend time carefully ensuring you put the right bolts in the r= ight holes. =20 >>>=20 >>> Regards, >>> Tim Holbrook >>> 1971 TR6 (which went through 3 throwout bearings in 1999 when I was dail= y driving it) >>>=20 >>> On Thursday, June 17, 2021, 06:35:58 PM EDT, rmf3860 rmf3860 wrote: >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Fellow Enthusiasts, >>>=20 >>> I know this is an old topic, but products and user experiences change ov= er time, so in the midst of my engine/trans rebuild, I thought it best to ge= t the group=E2=80=99s current collective wisdom.=20 >>>=20 >>> My current set up (which I intend to replace) is a Luk disc, pressure pl= ate and RHP T/O bearing. The T/O bearing has left an indentation on the pres= sure plate fingers. There=E2=80=99s no more than 5,000 miles on the clutch s= ystem.=20 >>>=20 >>> While idling with the clutch out, there was always a whine-which I belie= ve was the TO bearing spinning against the pressure plate=E2=80=99s straight= fingers. The initial clutch engagement was somewhat sudden, not smooth.=20 >>>=20 >>> What are your experiences and recommendations? >>>=20 >>> Thanks.=20 >>> Bob Fabie >>> Fredericksburg, VA >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.96 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> 6pack@autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >>>=20 >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tjh173@y= ahoo.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.96 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>=20 >>=20 >> 6pack@autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >>=20 >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/grglmn@gm= ail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >=20 >=20 > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >=20 > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/taylorturb= o6@yahoo.com >=20 --Apple-Mail-1A5EAF0F-9F1A-4FA5-BFCE-47F471B75B1A charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greg --- TRF's kit has an o= utside the box slave cylinder. You may be thinking of the HVDA hydraulic thr= owout bearing which is inside the bell. 
Dick T. 
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On Jun 18, 2021, at 2:53 PM, Greg Lemon <grglmn@gmail.com> wrote:

I may be wrong, but I think the TRF Magic Clut= ch Kit has the slave cylinder inside the bell housing.   I don't h= ave one, have heard many say it is a good kit, and I am sure it is, but that= particular feature gives me a little concern.


Greg Lemon
TR250

On Fri, Jun 18, 2021, 4:11 PM rmf3860 rm= f3860 <bobfabie@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks to all who responded to my pos= t, and a few follow up questions/comments:

=
BERRY PRICE: You installed a LUK clutch and stated, =E2=80= =9C=E2=80=A6and its been trouble.=E2=80=9D Did you mean it=E2=80=99s been no= trouble?

TOM WALLING: I m= ay be leaning toward the =E2=80=9CMagic Clutch Kit=E2=80=9D. Do they specify= the brands of each component, or do you know from having installed the kit?=

DICK TAYLOR: Would you r= ecommend TRF=E2=80=99s kit, just their TO bearing, or some other combination= ?  Is this the bearing that requires a counter spring on the slave?

MARK BRADAKIS: Great story. T= oo bad you had to disassemble everything a second time after hearing the cru= nching sounds. Do you recommend TRF kit or something else?

TIMOTHY HOLBROOK: Yes, I=E2=80=99m aware o= f the importance of proper alignment and will ensure that the studs and bolt= s are properly in place.

= Thanks again to all. This is a very helpful resource to have.

Bob Fabie
Frederic= ksburg, VA



On Fri= , Jun 18, 2021 at 1:13 PM Timothy Holbrook <tjh173@yahoo.com&= gt; wrote:
Hi Bob,

Something that is VERY important is ensuring you have got all of the c= orrect bolts in place for the bell housing (that is, the bolts that hold the= transmission to the engine) and you put the right bolts in the right holes.=   Several of the bolts are actually "locating pins". They are a specifi= c diameter with a shoulder (none-threaded portion) and must go in the specif= ic proper holes.  These ensure proper alignment of the trans and engine= , and therefore also ensure proper alignment of the throwout bearing and pre= ssure plate.  Cheap insurance - buy all new bolts so you know you've go= t the correct proper bolts, and spend time carefully ensuring you put the ri= ght bolts in the right holes.  

Regards,
Tim Holbrook
1971 TR6 (which went through 3 throwout bearings in 1999 when I was dai= ly driving it)

=20
=20
On Thursday, June 17, 2021, 06:35:58 PM EDT, rmf3860 rmf= 3860 <bobfabie@gmail.com> wrote:


Fe= llow Enthusiasts,

I know this is an old topic, but produc= ts and user experiences change over time, so in the midst of my engine/trans= rebuild, I thought it best to get the group=E2=80=99s current collective wi= sdom. 

My current set up (which I intend to re= place) is a Luk disc, pressure plate and RHP T/O bearing. The T/O bearing ha= s left an indentation on the pressure plate fingers. There=E2=80=99s no more= than 5,000 miles on the clutch system. 

While= idling with the clutch out, there was always a whine-which I believe was th= e TO bearing spinning against the pressure plate=E2=80=99s straight fingers.= The initial clutch engagement was somewhat sudden, not smooth. 
<= div>
What are your experiences and recommendations?
=
Thanks. 
Bob Fabie
Fredericksburg, V= A
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The LUK clutch has not given me = any trouble.Berry -----Original Message----- From: rmf3860 rmf3860 To: 6pack@autox.team.net <6pack@autox.team.net> Sent: Fri, Jun 18, 2021 1:46 pm Subject: Re: [6pack] Thank You Re: Clutch Set Recommendations Thanks to all who responded to my post, and a few follow up questions/comme= nts: BERRY PRICE: You installed a LUK clutch and stated, =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6and i= ts been trouble.=E2=80=9D Did you mean it=E2=80=99s been no trouble? TOM WALLING: I may be leaning toward the =E2=80=9CMagic Clutch Kit=E2=80=9D= . Do they specify the brands of each component, or do you know from having = installed the kit? DICK TAYLOR: Would you recommend TRF=E2=80=99s kit, just their TO bearing, = or some other combination?=C2=A0 Is this the bearing that requires a counte= r spring on the slave? MARK BRADAKIS: Great story. Too bad you had to disassemble everything a sec= ond time after hearing the crunching sounds. Do you recommend TRF kit or so= mething else? TIMOTHY HOLBROOK: Yes, I=E2=80=99m aware of the importance of proper alignm= ent and will ensure that the studs and bolts are properly in place. Thanks again to all. This is a very helpful resource to have. Bob FabieFredericksburg, VA On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 1:13 PM Timothy Holbrook wrote: Hi Bob, Something that is VERY important is ensuring you have got all of the correc= t bolts in place for the bell housing (that is, the bolts that hold the tra= nsmission to the engine) and you put the right bolts in the right holes.=C2= =A0 Several of the bolts are actually "locating pins". They are a specific = diameter with a shoulder (none-threaded portion) and must go in the specifi= c proper holes.=C2=A0 These ensure proper alignment of the trans and engine= , and therefore also ensure proper alignment of the throwout bearing and pr= essure plate.=C2=A0 Cheap insurance - buy all new bolts so you know you've = got the correct proper bolts, and spend time carefully ensuring you put the= right bolts in the right holes.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Regards,Tim Holbrook1971 TR6 (which went through 3 throwout bearings in 199= 9 when I was daily driving it) On Thursday, June 17, 2021, 06:35:58 PM EDT, rmf3860 rmf3860 wrote: =20 =20 Fellow Enthusiasts, I know this is an old topic, but products and user experiences change over = time, so in the midst of my engine/trans rebuild, I thought it best to get = the group=E2=80=99s current collective wisdom.=C2=A0 My current set up (which I intend to replace) is a Luk disc, pressure plate= and RHP T/O bearing. The T/O bearing has left an indentation on the pressu= re plate fingers. There=E2=80=99s no more than 5,000 miles on the clutch sy= stem.=C2=A0 While idling with the clutch out, there was always a whine-which I believe = was the TO bearing spinning against the pressure plate=E2=80=99s straight f= ingers. The initial clutch engagement was somewhat sudden, not smooth.=C2= =A0 What are your experiences and recommendations? Thanks.=C2=A0Bob FabieFredericksburg, VA___________________________________= ____________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack o.com =20 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack om ------=_Part_943233_2100139746.1624058063580 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bob-Sor= ry my alz must be flaring up again. The LUK clutch has not given me any tro= uble.
Berry


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From: rmf3860 rmf3860 <bobfabie@gmail.com>
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Sent: Fri, Jun 18, 2021 1:46 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Thank You Re: Clutch Set Recommendations


Thanks to all who responded to my post, and a few follow up questions/= comments:

BERRY PRICE: You installed a LUK clutch and stated, =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6= and its been trouble.=E2=80=9D Did you mean it=E2=80=99s been no trouble?

TOM WALLING: I may be leaning toward the =E2=80=9CMagic Clutch Kit=E2= =80=9D. Do they specify the brands of each component, or do you know from h= aving installed the kit?

DICK TAYLOR: Would you recommend TRF=E2=80=99s kit, just their TO bear= ing, or some other combination?  Is this the bearing that requires a c= ounter spring on the slave?

MARK BRADAKIS: Great story. Too bad you had to disassemble everything = a second time after hearing the crunching sounds. Do you recommend TRF kit = or something else?

TIMOTHY HOLBROOK: Yes, I=E2=80=99m aware of the importance of proper a= lignment and will ensure that the studs and bolts are properly in place.

Thanks again to all. This is a very helpful resource to have.

Bob Fabie
Fredericksburg, VA



On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at = 1:13 PM Timothy Holbrook <tjh173@yahoo.com> wrote:
=20
Hi Bob,

Something that is VERY important is ensuring you have got = all of the correct bolts in place for the bell housing (that is, the bolts = that hold the transmission to the engine) and you put the right bolts in th= e right holes.  Several of the bolts are actually "locating pins". The= y are a specific diameter with a shoulder (none-threaded portion) and must = go in the specific proper holes.  These ensure proper alignment of the= trans and engine, and therefore also ensure proper alignment of the throwo= ut bearing and pressure plate.  Cheap insurance - buy all new bolts so= you know you've got the correct proper bolts, and spend time carefully ens= uring you put the right bolts in the right holes.  

Regards,
Tim Holbrook
1971 TR6 (which went through 3 throwout bearings in 1999 w= hen I was daily driving it)

=20
=20
=20 =20
On Thursday, June 17, 2021, 06:35:58 PM EDT, rmf3860 rm= f3860 <bobfabie@= gmail.com> wrote:
=20

=20

Fellow Enthusiasts,

I know this is an old topic, but products and user experiences change = over time, so in the midst of my engine/trans rebuild, I thought it best to= get the group=E2=80=99s current collective wisdom. 

My current set up (which I intend to replace) is a Luk disc, pressure = plate and RHP T/O bearing. The T/O bearing has left an indentation on the p= ressure plate fingers. There=E2=80=99s no more than 5,000 miles on the clut= ch system. 

While idling with the clutch out, there was always a whine-which I bel= ieve was the TO bearing spinning against the pressure plate=E2=80=99s strai= ght fingers. The initial clutch engagement was somewhat sudden, not smooth.=  

What are your experiences and recommendations?

Thanks. 
Bob Fabie
Fredericksburg, VA
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How heavy the clutch action on TR6 is has been a repeated discussion on th= e list. Randell Young had a number of articles on TR6 clutch research by TR= 6 enthusiasts. I=E2=80=99ve had many standard shift cars and I can=E2=80=99t= recall any having a heavier clutch action then the TR6 even many V8=E2=80=99= s. There is an internal hydraulic clutch available for the TR6, but I don= =E2=80=99t think the TRF magic clutch kit utilizes it. Best Bob 72=E2=80=99 TR6 Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 18, 2021, at 5:54 PM, Greg Lemon wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF > I may be wrong, but I think the TRF Magic Clutch Kit has the slave cylinde= r inside the bell housing. I don't have one, have heard many say it is a g= ood kit, and I am sure it is, but that particular feature gives me a little c= oncern. >=20 >=20 > Greg Lemon > TR250 >=20 >> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021, 4:11 PM rmf3860 rmf3860 wrote:= >>=20 >> Thanks to all who responded to my post, and a few follow up questions/com= ments: >>=20 >> BERRY PRICE: You installed a LUK clutch and stated, =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6and= its been trouble.=E2=80=9D Did you mean it=E2=80=99s been no trouble? >>=20 >> TOM WALLING: I may be leaning toward the =E2=80=9CMagic Clutch Kit=E2=80=9D= . Do they specify the brands of each component, or do you know from having i= nstalled the kit? >>=20 >> DICK TAYLOR: Would you recommend TRF=E2=80=99s kit, just their TO bearing= , or some other combination? Is this the bearing that requires a counter sp= ring on the slave? >>=20 >> MARK BRADAKIS: Great story. Too bad you had to disassemble everything a s= econd time after hearing the crunching sounds. Do you recommend TRF kit or s= omething else? >>=20 >> TIMOTHY HOLBROOK: Yes, I=E2=80=99m aware of the importance of proper alig= nment and will ensure that the studs and bolts are properly in place. >>=20 >> Thanks again to all. This is a very helpful resource to have. >>=20 >> Bob Fabie >> Fredericksburg, VA >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 1:13 PM Timothy Holbrook wrot= e: >>> Hi Bob, >>>=20 >>> Something that is VERY important is ensuring you have got all of the cor= rect bolts in place for the bell housing (that is, the bolts that hold the t= ransmission to the engine) and you put the right bolts in the right holes. S= everal of the bolts are actually "locating pins". They are a specific diamet= er with a shoulder (none-threaded portion) and must go in the specific prope= r holes. These ensure proper alignment of the trans and engine, and therefo= re also ensure proper alignment of the throwout bearing and pressure plate. = Cheap insurance - buy all new bolts so you know you've got the correct prop= er bolts, and spend time carefully ensuring you put the right bolts in the r= ight holes. =20 >>>=20 >>> Regards, >>> Tim Holbrook >>> 1971 TR6 (which went through 3 throwout bearings in 1999 when I was dail= y driving it) >>>=20 >>> On Thursday, June 17, 2021, 06:35:58 PM EDT, rmf3860 rmf3860 wrote: >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Fellow Enthusiasts, >>>=20 >>> I know this is an old topic, but products and user experiences change ov= er time, so in the midst of my engine/trans rebuild, I thought it best to ge= t the group=E2=80=99s current collective wisdom.=20 >>>=20 >>> My current set up (which I intend to replace) is a Luk disc, pressure pl= ate and RHP T/O bearing. The T/O bearing has left an indentation on the pres= sure plate fingers. There=E2=80=99s no more than 5,000 miles on the clutch s= ystem.=20 >>>=20 >>> While idling with the clutch out, there was always a whine-which I belie= ve was the TO bearing spinning against the pressure plate=E2=80=99s straight= fingers. The initial clutch engagement was somewhat sudden, not smooth.=20 >>>=20 >>> What are your experiences and recommendations? >>>=20 >>> Thanks.=20 >>> Bob Fabie >>> Fredericksburg, VA >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.96 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> 6pack@autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >>>=20 >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tjh173@y= ahoo.com >>>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.96 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>=20 >>=20 >> 6pack@autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >>=20 >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/grglmn@gm= ail.com >>=20 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >=20 >=20 > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >=20 > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/rrochlin@c= omcast.net >=20 --Apple-Mail-34F306A1-240B-407B-BFF6-F49EC1E2E586 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  My opinion is using a bronze bearing c= arrier is extremely important to getting a smooth clutch action.
  H= ow heavy the clutch action on TR6 is has been a repeated discussion on the l= ist.  Randell Young had a number of articles on TR6 clutch research by T= R6 enthusiasts. I=E2=80=99ve had many standard shift cars and I can=E2=80=99= t recall any having a heavier clutch action then the TR6 even many V8=E2=80=99= s.  There is an internal  hydraulic  clutch available for the= TR6, but I don=E2=80=99t think the TRF magic clutch kit utilizes it.
<= div>Best
 Bob
72=E2=80=99 TR6

Sent from my iPhone

O= n Jun 18, 2021, at 5:54 PM, Greg Lemon <grglmn@gmail.com> wrote:
=EF=BB=BFI may be wrong, but I think the TRF Magic Clutch Kit has the s= lave cylinder inside the bell housing.   I don't have one, have he= ard many say it is a good kit, and I am sure it is, but that particular feat= ure gives me a little concern.

=

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Fri, Jun 18, 2021, 4:11 PM rmf3860 rmf3860 <bobfabi= e@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks to all who responded to my post, and a few follo= w up questions/comments:

= BERRY PRICE: You installed a LUK clutch and stated, =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6and it= s been trouble.=E2=80=9D Did you mean it=E2=80=99s been no trouble?

TOM WALLING: I may be leaning tow= ard the =E2=80=9CMagic Clutch Kit=E2=80=9D. Do they specify the brands of ea= ch component, or do you know from having installed the kit?

DICK TAYLOR: Would you recommend TRF=E2=80= =99s kit, just their TO bearing, or some other combination?  Is this th= e bearing that requires a counter spring on the slave?

MARK BRADAKIS: Great story. Too bad you had to= disassemble everything a second time after hearing the crunching sounds. Do= you recommend TRF kit or something else?

<= div dir=3D"auto">TIMOTHY HOLBROOK: Yes, I=E2=80=99m aware of the importance o= f proper alignment and will ensure that the studs and bolts are properly in p= lace.

Thanks again to all= . This is a very helpful resource to have.

=
Bob Fabie
Fredericksburg, VA
<= div dir=3D"auto">


On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 1= :13 PM Timothy Holbrook <tjh173@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Bob,

Something that is VERY important is ensuring you have got all of the c= orrect bolts in place for the bell housing (that is, the bolts that hold the= transmission to the engine) and you put the right bolts in the right holes.=   Several of the bolts are actually "locating pins". They are a specifi= c diameter with a shoulder (none-threaded portion) and must go in the specif= ic proper holes.  These ensure proper alignment of the trans and engine= , and therefore also ensure proper alignment of the throwout bearing and pre= ssure plate.  Cheap insurance - buy all new bolts so you know you've go= t the correct proper bolts, and spend time carefully ensuring you put the ri= ght bolts in the right holes.  

Regards,
Tim Holbrook
1971 TR6 (which went through 3 throwout bearings in 1999 when I was dai= ly driving it)

=20
=20
On Thursday, June 17, 2021, 06:35:58 PM EDT, rmf3860 rmf= 3860 <bobfabie@gmail.com> wrote:


Fe= llow Enthusiasts,

I know this is an old topic, but produc= ts and user experiences change over time, so in the midst of my engine/trans= rebuild, I thought it best to get the group=E2=80=99s current collective wi= sdom. 

My current set up (which I intend to re= place) is a Luk disc, pressure plate and RHP T/O bearing. The T/O bearing ha= s left an indentation on the pressure plate fingers. There=E2=80=99s no more= than 5,000 miles on the clutch system. 

While= idling with the clutch out, there was always a whine-which I believe was th= e TO bearing spinning against the pressure plate=E2=80=99s straight fingers.= The initial clutch engagement was somewhat sudden, not smooth. 
<= div>
What are your experiences and recommendations?
=
Thanks. 
Bob Fabie
Fredericksburg, V= A
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Bob Fabie,

I noticed that after replacing the red plastic clutch slave cylinder = hose. The hard pedal clutch became a "Toyota" clutch pedal. This was on = my third or fourth/ fith master and slave cylinder rebuild or replacement = over 38 years. Previously I replaced the clutch shaft, clutch shaft = bushings, pilot bearing, re-drilled the clutch fork for bolt replacement = due to clutch fork movement on shaft (pin failure), Replaced the clutch, = pressure plate, throughout bearing twice. Once due to fork pin failure = (slow learner at the time because of no internet during that time period)! = I surmise that over the years the red plastic clutch slave hose must = expand restriting the fluid flow or the replacement has a larger inside = diameter to allow more fluid flow. I should have replaced the red clutch = slave cylinder hose years ago in my opinion. I at the purchased the red = slave cylinder hose at TRF at the time with the blue dot clutch ( standard = clutch and throwout bearing). FWIW

Regards,

Robert Perry

--===============6421829317902080273== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack --===============6421829317902080273==-- From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 20 12:30:45 2021 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C832BA0BC0 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 12:30:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-11v.sys.comcast.net (unknown [69.252.207.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38257A0B3D for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 12:30:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.97]) by resqmta-ch2-11v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id v1rslKRdijtOrv2D9lGJVM; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 18:30:23 +0000 s=20190202a; t=1624213823; bh=HOSKZHqc6dvw1TOI+WjG0KCDcFbygoxXF10FhMKsFX8=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=ApCnVIgGEl/GolpfFBHdHn0nCYBR9kGH2ZTRY+uuJF/V7R38HAxzS6/XdqaMud6WO J9qKdYJT9FK3hdkMDJW4LSY7OAB55jRiNgXWqBG5HMNh0+whZ0BjpNz6QLe5hphocR 9MExY8zPn0s2mWWH6/vsTubOrz96zuIDfNgmpYouDDKn3R2jOB8yCBnogXiBqRPK6m aJ1K3bRIRrYMQs9TGaE2bPP3IQkpq3LvMbF/GuJ2YihorhtClh1b9XiB+5W4naMr1/ aWIxodsWS6MctVZXXTgkq1UKdzPwWiVM41bk1FJkcVHP1sR5xIGYzfE/PLcPvGXz3O gMoWNDzMwjWFA== Received: from oxapp-asc-50o.email.comcast.net ([96.118.217.249]) by resomta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPS id v2D8lwDIByPBXv2D8lWcNm; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 18:30:22 +0000 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2021 14:30:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Walling To: Robert Rochlin , "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> References: Importance: Normal Subject: Re: [6pack] Thank You Re: Clutch Set Recommendations Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3758986109623359016== boundary="----=_Part_283726_1446757201.1624213822490" ------=_Part_283726_1446757201.1624213822490 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My only knowledge of how TRF's Magic Clutch works on the car is from postin= gs here on the lists. I do know that TRF has always been a strong advocate = for quality above price, and I feel that is really important when it comes = to parts that are a real pig to get at and change-out.=20 My current clutch was "cobbled together" from parts from TRF, World Parts (= remember them? are they still around?) and a junk yard in Asheville NC. I w= as there for the 1994 VTR National and arrived on the "hook" of a tow truck= . I changed the clutch in the host hotel's parking lot in the heat between = the daily thunder storms. That's something I hope never to repeat! I have n= ot had any further touble with it, but you never know. My next one will be = a Magic Clutch from TRF. > On 06/18/2021 7:28 PM Robert Rochlin wrote: > =20 > =20 > My opinion is using a bronze bearing carrier is extremely important = to getting a smooth clutch action. > How heavy the clutch action on TR6 is has been a repeated discussio= n on the list. Randell Young had a number of articles on TR6 clutch resear= ch by TR6 enthusiasts. I=E2=80=99ve had many standard shift cars and I can= =E2=80=99t recall any having a heavier clutch action then the TR6 even many= V8=E2=80=99s. There is an internal hydraulic clutch available for the T= R6, but I don=E2=80=99t think the TRF magic clutch kit utilizes it. > Best > Bob > 72=E2=80=99 TR6 >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 >=20 > > > On Jun 18, 2021, at 5:54 PM, Greg Lemon wr= ote: > >=20 > >=20 > > >=20 > > > I may be wrong, but I think the TRF Magic Clutch Kit = has the slave cylinder inside the bell housing. I don't have one, have he= ard many say it is a good kit, and I am sure it is, but that particular fea= ture gives me a little concern. > > =20 > > =20 > > Greg Lemon > > TR250 > >=20 > > On Fri, Jun 18, 2021, 4:11 PM rmf3860 rmf3860 < bobfabie@gmail.= com mailto:bobfabie@gmail.com > wrote: > >=20 > > > > > =20 > > > Thanks to all who responded to my post, and a few follow = up questions/comments: > > > =20 > > > BERRY PRICE: You installed a LUK clutch and stated, =E2= =80=9C=E2=80=A6and its been trouble.=E2=80=9D Did you mean it=E2=80=99s bee= n no trouble? > > > =20 > > > TOM WALLING: I may be leaning toward the =E2=80=9CMagic C= lutch Kit=E2=80=9D. Do they specify the brands of each component, or do you= know from having installed the kit? > > > =20 > > > DICK TAYLOR: Would you recommend TRF=E2=80=99s kit, just = their TO bearing, or some other combination? Is this the bearing that requ= ires a counter spring on the slave? > > > =20 > > > MARK BRADAKIS: Great story. Too bad you had to disassembl= e everything a second time after hearing the crunching sounds. Do you recom= mend TRF kit or something else? > > > =20 > > > TIMOTHY HOLBROOK: Yes, I=E2=80=99m aware of the importanc= e of proper alignment and will ensure that the studs and bolts are properly= in place. > > > =20 > > > Thanks again to all. This is a very helpful resource to h= ave. > > > =20 > > > Bob Fabie > > > Fredericksburg, VA > > > =20 > > > =20 > > >=20 > > > On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 1:13 PM Timothy Holbrook < tjh173= @yahoo.com mailto:tjh173@yahoo.com > wrote: > > >=20 > > > > > > > =20 > > > > Hi Bob, > > > > =20 > > > > Something that is VERY important is ensuring you ha= ve got all of the correct bolts in place for the bell housing (that is, the= bolts that hold the transmission to the engine) and you put the right bolt= s in the right holes. Several of the bolts are actually "locating pins". T= hey are a specific diameter with a shoulder (none-threaded portion) and mus= t go in the specific proper holes. These ensure proper alignment of the tr= ans and engine, and therefore also ensure proper alignment of the throwout = bearing and pressure plate. Cheap insurance - buy all new bolts so you kno= w you've got the correct proper bolts, and spend time carefully ensuring yo= u put the right bolts in the right holes. =20 > > > > =20 > > > > Regards, > > > > Tim Holbrook > > > > 1971 TR6 (which went through 3 throwout bearings in= 1999 when I was daily driving it) > > > > =20 > > > > =20 > > > > On Thursday, June 17, 2021, 06:35:58 PM EDT, rmf386= 0 rmf3860 < bobfabie@gmail.com mailto:bobfabie@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > =20 > > > > =20 > > > > =20 > > > > Fellow Enthusiasts, > > > > =20 > > > > I know this is an old topic, but products and user = experiences change over time, so in the midst of my engine/trans rebuild, I= thought it best to get the group=E2=80=99s current collective wisdom.=20 > > > > =20 > > > > My current set up (which I intend to replace) is a = Luk disc, pressure plate and RHP T/O bearing. The T/O bearing has left an i= ndentation on the pressure plate fingers. There=E2=80=99s no more than 5,00= 0 miles on the clutch system.=20 > > > > =20 > > > > While idling with the clutch out, there was always = a whine-which I believe was the TO bearing spinning against the pressure pl= ate=E2=80=99s straight fingers. The initial clutch engagement was somewhat = sudden, not smooth.=20 > > > > =20 > > > > What are your experiences and recommendations? > > > > =20 > > > > Thanks.=20 > > > > Bob Fabie > > > > Fredericksburg, VA > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > 6pack@autox.team.net mailto:6pack@autox.team.net > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > > >=20 > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/o= ptions/6pack/tjh173@yahoo.com > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > > > > _____________________________________= __________ > > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > 6pack@autox.team.net mailto:6pack@autox.team.net > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > >=20 > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options= /6pack/grglmn@gmail.com > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >=20 > >=20 > > 6pack@autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > >=20 > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack= /rrochlin@comcast.net > >=20 > >=20 > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >=20 >=20 > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >=20 > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/pdqtr= 6@comcast.net >=20 >=20 ------=_Part_283726_1446757201.1624213822490 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 =20
My only knowled= ge of how TRF's Magic Clutch works on the car is from postings here on the = lists. I do know that TRF has always been a strong advocate for quality abo= ve price, and I feel that is really important when it comes to parts that a= re a real pig to get at and change-out. 
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My current clut= ch was "cobbled together" from parts from TRF, World Parts (remember them? = are they still around?) and a junk yard in Asheville NC. I was there for th= e 1994 VTR National and arrived on the "hook" of a tow truck. I changed the= clutch in the host hotel's parking lot in the heat between the daily thund= er storms. That's something I hope never to repeat! I have not had any furt= her touble with it, but you never know. My next one will be a Magic Clutch = from TRF.
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On 06/18/2021 7:28 PM Robert Rochlin <rrochlin@comcast.net> wrote= :
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 My opinion is using a bronze bearing carrier is extremely i= mportant to getting a smooth clutch action.=20
  How heavy the clutch action on TR6 is has been a repeated discus= sion on the list.  Randell Young had a number of articles on TR6 clutc= h research by TR6 enthusiasts. I=E2=80=99ve had many standard shift cars an= d I can=E2=80=99t recall any having a heavier clutch action then the TR6 ev= en many V8=E2=80=99s.  There is an internal  hydraulic  clut= ch available for the TR6, but I don=E2=80=99t think the TRF magic clutch ki= t utilizes it.
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Best
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 Bob
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72=E2=80=99 TR6

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Sent from my iPhone
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On Jun 18, 2021, at 5:54 PM, Greg Lemon <grglmn@gmail.com> wrot= e:

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I may be wrong, but I think the TRF Magic Clutch Kit has the slave c= ylinder inside the bell housing.   I don't have one, have heard m= any say it is a good kit, and I am sure it is, but that particular feature = gives me a little concern.=20
 
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Greg Lemon
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TR250
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On Fri, Jun 18, 2021, 4:11 PM rmf3860 rmf3860 < bobfabie@gmail.com> wrote:
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Thanks to all who responded to my post, and a few follow up questi= ons/comments:
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BERRY PRICE: You installed a LUK clutch and stated, =E2=80=9C=E2= =80=A6and its been trouble.=E2=80=9D Did you mean it=E2=80=99s been no trou= ble?
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TOM WALLING: I may be leaning toward the =E2=80=9CMagic Clutch Kit= =E2=80=9D. Do they specify the brands of each component, or do you know fro= m having installed the kit?
=20
 
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DICK TAYLOR: Would you recommend TRF=E2=80=99s kit, just their TO = bearing, or some other combination?  Is this the bearing that requires= a counter spring on the slave?
=20
 
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MARK BRADAKIS: Great story. Too bad you had to disassemble everyth= ing a second time after hearing the crunching sounds. Do you recommend TRF = kit or something else?
=20
 
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TIMOTHY HOLBROOK: Yes, I=E2=80=99m aware of the importance of prop= er alignment and will ensure that the studs and bolts are properly in place= .
=20
 
=20
Thanks again to all. This is a very helpful resource to have.
=20
 
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Bob Fabie
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Fredericksburg, VA
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On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 1:13 PM Timothy Holbrook < tjh173@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Hi Bob,
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Something that is VERY important is ensuring you have got all= of the correct bolts in place for the bell housing (that is, the bolts tha= t hold the transmission to the engine) and you put the right bolts in the r= ight holes.  Several of the bolts are actually "locating pins". They a= re a specific diameter with a shoulder (none-threaded portion) and must go = in the specific proper holes.  These ensure proper alignment of the tr= ans and engine, and therefore also ensure proper alignment of the throwout = bearing and pressure plate.  Cheap insurance - buy all new bolts so yo= u know you've got the correct proper bolts, and spend time carefully ensuri= ng you put the right bolts in the right holes.  
=20
 
=20
Regards,
=20
Tim Holbrook
=20
1971 TR6 (which went through 3 throwout bearings in 1999 when= I was daily driving it)
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On Thursday, June 17, 2021, 06:35:58 PM EDT, rmf3860 rmf3860= < bobfabie@gmail.com> wrote:
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Fellow Enthusiasts,=20
 
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I know this is an old topic, but products and user experi= ences change over time, so in the midst of my engine/trans rebuild, I thoug= ht it best to get the group=E2=80=99s current collective wisdom. 
=20
 
=20
My current set up (which I intend to replace) is a Luk di= sc, pressure plate and RHP T/O bearing. The T/O bearing has left an indenta= tion on the pressure plate fingers. There=E2=80=99s no more than 5,000 mile= s on the clutch system. 
=20
 
=20
While idling with the clutch out, there was always a whin= e-which I believe was the TO bearing spinning against the pressure plate=E2= =80=99s straight fingers. The initial clutch engagement was somewhat sudden= , not smooth. 
=20
 
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What are your experiences and recommendations?
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Thanks. 
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Bob Fabie
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Fredericksburg, VA
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=20 ------=_Part_283726_1446757201.1624213822490-- --===============3758986109623359016== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack --===============3758986109623359016==-- From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 20 14:19:40 2021 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD91A0C12 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 14:19:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ot1-f45.google.com (unknown [209.85.210.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77CD6A0523 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 14:19:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ot1-f45.google.com with SMTP id h24-20020a9d64180000b029036edcf8f9a6so15634062otl.3 for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 13:19:22 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=nfYJlKk9mjHElUtzKIz9MZ1WDDnhLKOZTPLvmHDSFTQ=; b=b5fYI3YWoo8HpsdDZ/IZNgrPqDFi5HePPyP6gfGCsbL37NKbzGLA9A18MtP/XLW9NO wtAu49YSPBRpxqFZYkWi8X5fS/9vwYSMuV/10APobTXzXa9fLXV9S6S3Z4J8jctTA/r0 2qvd2ii/fXCxKRmHEIcf4/v72RAMB5UEI7ylPMTQhDbmzR6x5rEofM252QQq3x+dijwx xf511Hc6+ReOFPoBh9dsduJ+QzaNX6oRXaOg0aHxBe/dg23p8Vs33FL8e/ASjz1jQoIS BJiBw3n4MD9+DZOyi58tzcXff/TUYIotjJHEwBYmIloMFTdFuAPgCO9S2xZ58PJSB0f8 U/tA== d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=nfYJlKk9mjHElUtzKIz9MZ1WDDnhLKOZTPLvmHDSFTQ=; b=A+ADk5nAaNphFLVtCFJGcheRdj9ZzjU6V0tWwdgFW3Aoryc+3zsMmF7aS7QT2VlXnb gIvH0+b81dnUb7qo6ez0oza+0mZ6Yv8ICXr/IPCAgZB5JGYpQyCCMyg8oLEYYgugocu9 9k04lxCReiKDoRRBYmmfvlYpYQ0+j06zNGlYTPmnQG6SlfTWmcRVFjOLnhcNIGE/mhDI RNbyIBsjTnV0mNciUIVofb4jp+dwLiL8G3PfdRoajBnjE5qxKTIbbKCXlBfs0FMxPyAt 0yOJMfId7E2d5Z/CO0qpnsUnb3qnR6vLKLrLweKsYeX5PXSG8jUj6tKWIrfm1+fWjLSi qYOA== 6i+cnKCpJyhMeQmlNbz5sHAgH/vPdTctp6r3OLw= j24mr7242881ots.333.1624220361530; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 13:19:21 -0700 (PDT) References: <122239359.283727.1624213822562@connect.xfinity.com> From: rmf3860 rmf3860 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2021 15:19:10 -0500 To: Tom Walling Subject: Re: [6pack] Thank You Re: Clutch Set Recommendations Cc: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4784782724277458819== --000000000000afa13605c538458f Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you, Tom. Very helpful information. Bet you=E2=80=99ll never forget c= hanging that clutch in the parking lot! By now, I=E2=80=99ve read =E2=80=9Cevery=E2=80=9D technical article and eve= ry posting about TR6 clutches I could find on the web. It seems every combination of components has its down side-mostly involving the T/O bearing. With all due respect to the suggestions and comments to of the group, I=E2= =80=99m still undecided, but I am leaning toward the TRF package. I also plan to speak with Moss=E2=80=99 technical advisors to see what they recommend. I wish you had some pictures of that parking lot clutch job. I=E2=80=99d lo= ve to see them. Thanks again. Bob Fabie On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 1:30 PM Tom Walling wrote: > My only knowledge of how TRF's Magic Clutch works on the car is from > postings here on the lists. I do know that TRF has always been a strong > advocate for quality above price, and I feel that is really important whe= n > it comes to parts that are a real pig to get at and change-out. > > My current clutch was "cobbled together" from parts from TRF, World Parts > (remember them? are they still around?) and a junk yard in Asheville NC. = I > was there for the 1994 VTR National and arrived on the "hook" of a tow > truck. I changed the clutch in the host hotel's parking lot in the heat > between the daily thunder storms. That's something I hope never to repeat= ! > I have not had any further touble with it, but you never know. My next on= e > will be a Magic Clutch from TRF. > > On 06/18/2021 7:28 PM Robert Rochlin wrote: > > > My opinion is using a bronze bearing carrier is extremely important to > getting a smooth clutch action. > How heavy the clutch action on TR6 is has been a repeated discussion on > the list. Randell Young had a number of articles on TR6 clutch research = by > TR6 enthusiasts. I=E2=80=99ve had many standard shift cars and I can=E2= =80=99t recall any > having a heavier clutch action then the TR6 even many V8=E2=80=99s. Ther= e is an > internal hydraulic clutch available for the TR6, but I don=E2=80=99t th= ink the > TRF magic clutch kit utilizes it. > Best > Bob > 72=E2=80=99 TR6 > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 18, 2021, at 5:54 PM, Greg Lemon wrote: > > I may be wrong, but I think the TRF Magic Clutch Kit has the slave > cylinder inside the bell housing. I don't have one, have heard many say > it is a good kit, and I am sure it is, but that particular feature gives = me > a little concern. > > > Greg Lemon > TR250 > > On Fri, Jun 18, 2021, 4:11 PM rmf3860 rmf3860 < bobfabie@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Thanks to all who responded to my post, and a few follow up > questions/comments: > > BERRY PRICE: You installed a LUK clutch and stated, =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6and= its been > trouble.=E2=80=9D Did you mean it=E2=80=99s been no trouble? > > TOM WALLING: I may be leaning toward the =E2=80=9CMagic Clutch Kit=E2=80= =9D. Do they > specify the brands of each component, or do you know from having installe= d > the kit? > > DICK TAYLOR: Would you recommend TRF=E2=80=99s kit, just their TO bearing= , or some > other combination? Is this the bearing that requires a counter spring on > the slave? > > MARK BRADAKIS: Great story. Too bad you had to disassemble everything a > second time after hearing the crunching sounds. Do you recommend TRF kit = or > something else? > > TIMOTHY HOLBROOK: Yes, I=E2=80=99m aware of the importance of proper alig= nment and > will ensure that the studs and bolts are properly in place. > > Thanks again to all. This is a very helpful resource to have. > > Bob Fabie > Fredericksburg, VA > > > > On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 1:13 PM Timothy Holbrook < tjh173@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > Hi Bob, > > Something that is VERY important is ensuring you have got all of the > correct bolts in place for the bell housing (that is, the bolts that hold > the transmission to the engine) and you put the right bolts in the right > holes. Several of the bolts are actually "locating pins". They are a > specific diameter with a shoulder (none-threaded portion) and must go in > the specific proper holes. These ensure proper alignment of the trans an= d > engine, and therefore also ensure proper alignment of the throwout bearin= g > and pressure plate. Cheap insurance - buy all new bolts so you know you'= ve > got the correct proper bolts, and spend time carefully ensuring you put t= he > right bolts in the right holes. > > Regards, > Tim Holbrook > 1971 TR6 (which went through 3 throwout bearings in 1999 when I was daily > driving it) > > > On Thursday, June 17, 2021, 06:35:58 PM EDT, rmf3860 rmf3860 < > bobfabie@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Fellow Enthusiasts, > > I know this is an old topic, but products and user experiences change ove= r > time, so in the midst of my engine/trans rebuild, I thought it best to ge= t > the group=E2=80=99s current collective wisdom. > > My current set up (which I intend to replace) is a Luk disc, pressure > plate and RHP T/O bearing. The T/O bearing has left an indentation on the > pressure plate fingers. There=E2=80=99s no more than 5,000 miles on the c= lutch > system. > > While idling with the clutch out, there was always a whine-which I believ= e > was the TO bearing spinning against the pressure plate=E2=80=99s straight= fingers. > The initial clutch engagement was somewhat sudden, not smooth. > > What are your experiences and recommendations? > > Thanks. > Bob Fabie > Fredericksburg, VA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tjh173@yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/grglmn@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/rrochlin@comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/pdqtr6@comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/bobfabie@gmail.com > > --000000000000afa13605c538458f Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you, Tom. Very helpful information. Bet you=E2=80= =99ll never forget changing that clutch in the parking lot!

By now, I=E2=80=99ve read =E2=80=9Cev= ery=E2=80=9D technical article and every posting about TR6 clutches I could= find on the web. It seems every combination of components has its down sid= e-mostly involving the T/O bearing.=C2=A0

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With all due respect to the suggestions and comments to o= f the group, I=E2=80=99m still undecided, but I am leaning toward the TRF p= ackage. I also plan to speak with Moss=E2=80=99 technical advisors to see w= hat they recommend.=C2=A0

I wish you had some pictures of that parking lot clutch job. I=E2=80=99d = love to see them.

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On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 1:30 PM Tom Walling <pdqtr6@comcast.net> wrote:
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My only knowledge o= f how TRF's Magic Clutch works on the car is from postings here on the = lists. I do know that TRF has always been a strong advocate for quality abo= ve price, and I feel that is really important when it comes to parts that a= re a real pig to get at and change-out.=C2=A0
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My current clutch w= as "cobbled together" from parts from TRF, World Parts (remember = them? are they still around?) and a junk yard in Asheville NC. I was there = for the 1994 VTR National and arrived on the "hook" of a tow truc= k. I changed the clutch in the host hotel's parking lot in the heat bet= ween the daily thunder storms. That's something I hope never to repeat!= I have not had any further touble with it, but you never know. My next one= will be a Magic Clutch from TRF.
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I may be wrong, but I think the TRF Magic Clutch Kit has the slave c= ylinder inside the bell housing.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I don't have one, have hea= rd many say it is a good kit, and I am sure it is, but that particular feat= ure gives me a little concern.=20
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My current set up (which I intend to replace) is a Luk di= sc, pressure plate and RHP T/O bearing. The T/O bearing has left an indenta= tion on the pressure plate fingers. There=E2=80=99s no more than 5,000 mile= s on the clutch system.=C2=A0
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I am not going to reproduce that section of the book here, but I will try t= o de-mystify this area of the car. The issues center around: a.) mechanical tolerances/design deficiency.b.) supersessionc.) poor docume= ntation The clutch design does not have much allowance for wear & tear. Originally = a 0.75" Master Cylinder was fitted and this worked well but their were comp= laints of "heavy clutch" with this system. During the 1970 model year, the = master cylinder was changed to a 0.70" unit. This did soften up the clutch = pressure, but now wear and tear deficiencies of the mechanical parts became= significant issues causing drag and partial clutch disengagement. Bushing = wear, clutch fork pin wear , cylinder leaks etc. will cause poor performanc= e.=C2=A0=C2=A0 The car parts biz is quite dynamic, and companies get sold, go out of busin= ess, or simply manage the life cycle of their products. Part of this is tha= t if they have a slow or small selling item, they look around to see if the= y have another part with greater sales that could be use for the slow selli= ng application and they discontinue the part for the slow selling applicati= on.=C2=A0 The original clutch & driven plate were Laycock units and worked = quite well.=C2=A0 But Laycock sold their clutch business to LUK. LUK stoppe= d making the TR6 Clutch some time ago.=C2=A0 Enter Borg & Beck.=C2=A0 They = offered a clutch for the TR6 that I think became a standard.=C2=A0 It worke= d quite well. But in time, they saw slow sales for this model and it disapp= eared from the inventory. B&B used colored paint spots to mark their differ= ent pressure plates - I believe there was a "Yellow-spot" a "Green-Spot" an= d a "Blue-spot".=C2=A0 I don't recall which one was used on the TR6, but it= was discontinued and superceded with one of the other clutches. Should be = ok right?=C2=A0 It fits right?=C2=A0 No problem then!=C2=A0 Wrong! Wrong be= cause one of these clutches was designed for a much heavier vehicle (Van). = You want a good tight clutch right?=C2=A0 Yes, but excessive spring pressur= e is very hard on the thrust washers when the clutch is disengaged.=C2=A0 N= ot a good situation. Also it increases pressure on the clutch fork pin and = can break it. Anyone who has ever had a broken clutch fork pin knows what a= PITA it is. Then B&B was sold to Delphi and that product line was rational= ized with yet another clutch that had "cranked" spring fingers. Another gen= eric parts vendor Quinton Hazel also has such a clutch.=C2=A0 I have heard = mixed reports on this type, with some folks reporting squealing and other r= eporting good operation.=C2=A0 I can only tell you that their original Layc= ock design was straight fingered. Some of the squealing reports seem to be = linked with larger throw-out bearings when used with the cranked fingered c= lutches.=C2=A0 Now some info about the throw-out bearings. The original configuration was an RHP bearing on a bronze carrier that was = pinned. A while back reports came out about premature failures with the RHP= bearings. Either a bad batch of bearing was made or quality had suffered. = It is hard to know what happened, because once a part like this gets a "bla= ck-eye", people move away from them because they are such a pain to change,= nobody wants to take a chance on it again.=C2=A0 I am not saying that RHP = bearings are good or bad, simply relating what I have heard.=C2=A0 Anecdote= - This became an issue for me because I was a "clutch rider" (head hung in= shame).=C2=A0 I would sit there at a light with my left foot on the clutch= and my foot on the brake. After=C2=A0 a while I began to hear my bearing (= an RHP as it turns out) whirring away.=C2=A0 So when I pulled the tranny fo= r another project, I decided that I should get a new bearing and it would n= ot be an RHP.=C2=A0 Now was it a crappy bearing or a crappy driver that was= the issue?=C2=A0 These things are hard to tease apart.=C2=A0 There are now= a number of brands out there, but I will mention 3.=C2=A0 The Koyo bearing= was originally designed for a Landcruiser. It was larger than the other be= arings.=C2=A0 Some folks love'em and some folks have reporting squealing.= =C2=A0 It is true that being a larger bearing it is going to take more forc= e to overcome inertia and get it spinning. There is another bearing that co= mes highly recommended called KYK. Never used one but would because of this= recommendation from a source that I trust. Gunst has become a dirty name i= n some quarters of the Triumph community.=C2=A0 It was hyped as a godsend, = and then a few problems were mentioned (hard to track down the variables).= =C2=A0 I will say that the Gust bearings are different in that they are mea= nt to contact the clutch at all times.=C2=A0 I have put one in my car.=C2= =A0 I don't know what to expect but I hope for the best.=C2=A0 Finally carr= iers.=C2=A0 Bronze carriers have been mentioned as preferred. It makes sens= e as they are useful in circumstances when you have surface movements in th= at bronze seems to resist abrasion and not gall. Mating the carrier to the = bearing is a precision operation.=C2=A0 Most of us should either buy a bear= ing that is mated to the carrier or have a good machine shop do it for you.= "Pinned" refers to a hardened pin that prevents the bearing carrier from r= otating on the clutch fork pin. This makes sense to me as we want to gearin= g to rotate and not the carrier.=C2=A0 I know folks who have had squealing = issue without a pin. Again drilling and installing an anti-rotation pin is = best left to a shop for most of us. "Magic Clutch" Kit - Hype or for real?=C2=A0 A word about Charles Runyon. C= harles Runyon, the former proprietor of the Roadster Factory has recently p= assed away.=C2=A0 I won't speak ill of the dead except to acknowledge that = some folks in our community may have got hurt over some of his business pra= ctices late in his life.=C2=A0 I will say that Charles and his company have= been for a very long time, real friends and proponents of our community.= =C2=A0 =C2=A0Charles had noticed that there seemed to be a lot of clutch is= sues with our cars and some of these issues no doubt blew back on him, when= new parts he sold didn't fix the issues (remember these problems are hard = to tease apart). Being very well connected in the community he was able to = pull opinions from some of the most knowledgeable folks in our hobby and co= me of with a serious attempt at rectifying these clutch issues. Charles rea= lized that the reliability of the clutch mechanics was as important as the = clutch components themselves and pulled together a kit of parts that would = significantly improve the probability of successful clutch repair.=C2=A0 So= I think it is for real and not hype, that when you do a clutch job you sho= uld replace everything. It isn't that much more money and it worth the extr= a effort. He also discovered the Sachs clutch.=C2=A0 This clutch most resem= bles the original Laycock clutch design. This is the clutch I have used in = my car.=C2=A0 I have gone a bit further and added a feature that allows me= =C2=A0 to lubricate my clutch shaft with a grease gun. If you are intereste= d I can tell about this in another post.=C2=A0 Despite all of these there were still more people than there should have be= en that were reporting clutch issues. A few years back a couple of sleuths = uncovered the "dowel" bolts. In the parts lists, there are 2 special bolts = among the many bolts that mate engine the bell housing.=C2=A0 These are ref= erred to as "dowel bolts". Williams in his book obliquely mentions "locatin= g bolts".=C2=A0 If the bell housing is misaligned to the engine even a litt= le bit, poor clutch performance results. These bolts have larger chanks and= are located at 2 and 8 O'clock and align the transmission to the engine. I= f you lose these bolts or don't put them in first than you can have clutch = issues no matter what you do.=C2=A0 Many folks have installed hardened stee= l dowels in place of these bolts.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Hopefully, this summary will help you with your clutch replacement.=C2=A0 P= lease excuse the length of it.=C2=A0 Many folks referred to different aspec= ts of this story, but I thought it would be good to put it all in one place= . Regards-John Cyg70 DamsonCC52927LO ------=_Part_1815149_117691770.1624296081017 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
"The  six cylinder = car's clutch is not such a happy story and is the Achilles Heel of the 6 cy= linder cars."  So says Roger Williams in his book; How to Restore T= riumph TR5/250 & TR6.

I am not going to reproduce that section of the book here, but I will t= ry to de-mystify this area of the car.

The issues center around:

a.) mechanical tolerances/design deficiency.
b.) supersession
c.) poor documentation

The clutch design does not have mu= ch allowance for wear & tear. Originally a 0.75" Master Cylinder was fi= tted and this worked well but their were complaints of "heavy clutch" with = this system. During the 1970 model year, the master cylinder was changed to= a 0.70" unit. This did soften up the clutch pressure, but now wear and tea= r deficiencies of the mechanical parts became significant issues causing dr= ag and partial clutch disengagement. Bushing wear, clutch fork pin wear , c= ylinder leaks etc. will cause poor performance.  

The car parts biz is quite dynamic, and= companies get sold, go out of business, or simply manage the life cycle of= their products. Part of this is that if they have a slow or small selling = item, they look around to see if they have another part with greater sales = that could be use for the slow selling application and they discontinue the= part for the slow selling application.  The original clutch & dri= ven plate were Laycock units and worked quite well.  But Laycock sold = their clutch business to LUK. LUK stopped making the TR6 Clutch some time a= go.  Enter Borg & Beck.  They offered a clutch for the TR6 th= at I think became a standard.  It worked quite well. But in time, they= saw slow sales for this model and it disappeared from the inventory. B&= ;B used colored paint spots to mark their different pressure plates - I bel= ieve there was a "Yellow-spot" a "Green-Spot" and a "Blue-spot".  I do= n't recall which one was used on the TR6, but it was discontinued and super= ceded with one of the other clutches. Should be ok right?  It fits rig= ht?  No problem then!  Wrong! Wrong because one of these clutches= was designed for a much heavier vehicle (Van). You want a good tight clutc= h right?  Yes, but excessive spring pressure is very hard on the thrus= t washers when the clutch is disengaged.  Not a good situation. Also i= t increases pressure on the clutch fork pin and can break it. Anyone who ha= s ever had a broken clutch fork pin knows what a PITA it is. Then B&B w= as sold to Delphi and that product line was rationalized with yet another c= lutch that had "cranked" spring fingers. Another generic parts vendor Quint= on Hazel also has such a clutch.  I have heard mixed reports on this t= ype, with some folks reporting squealing and other reporting good operation= .  I can only tell you that their original Laycock design was straight= fingered. Some of the squealing reports seem to be linked with larger thro= w-out bearings when used with the cranked fingered clutches.  Now some= info about the throw-out bearings.

The original configuration was an RHP beari= ng on a bronze carrier that was pinned. A while back reports came out about= premature failures with the RHP bearings. Either a bad batch of bearing wa= s made or quality had suffered. It is hard to know what happened, because o= nce a part like this gets a "black-eye", people move away from them because= they are such a pain to change, nobody wants to take a chance on it again.=   I am not saying that RHP bearings are good or bad, simply relating w= hat I have heard.  Anecdote - This became an issue for me because I wa= s a "clutch rider" (head hung in shame).  I would sit there at a light= with my left foot on the clutch and my foot on the brake. After  a wh= ile I began to hear my bearing (an RHP as it turns out) whirring away. = ; So when I pulled the tranny for another project, I decided that I should = get a new bearing and it would not be an RHP.  Now was it a crappy bea= ring or a crappy driver that was the issue?  These things are hard to = tease apart.  There are now a number of brands out there, but I will m= ention 3.  The Koyo bearing was originally designed for a Landcruiser.= It was larger than the other bearings.  Some folks love'em and some f= olks have reporting squealing.  It is true that being a larger bearing= it is going to take more force to overcome inertia and get it spinning. Th= ere is another bearing that comes highly recommended called KYK. Never used= one but would because of this recommendation from a source that I trust. G= unst has become a dirty name in some quarters of the Triumph community.&nbs= p; It was hyped as a godsend, and then a few problems were mentioned (hard = to track down the variables).  I will say that the Gust bearings are d= ifferent in that they are meant to contact the clutch at all times.  I= have put one in my car.  I don't know what to expect but I hope for t= he best.  Finally carriers.  Bronze carriers have been mentioned = as preferred. It makes sense as they are useful in circumstances when you h= ave surface movements in that bronze seems to resist abrasion and not gall.= Mating the carrier to the bearing is a precision operation.  Most of = us should either buy a bearing that is mated to the carrier or have a good = machine shop do it for you. "Pinned" refers to a hardened pin that prevents= the bearing carrier from rotating on the clutch fork pin. This makes sense= to me as we want to gearing to rotate and not the carrier.  I know fo= lks who have had squealing issue without a pin. Again drilling and installi= ng an anti-rotation pin is best left to a shop for most of us.

"Magic Clutch" Kit - Hype or for real?  A word about Charles Run= yon. Charles Runyon, the former proprietor of the Roadster Factory has rece= ntly passed away.  I won't speak ill of the dead except to acknowledge= that some folks in our community may have got hurt over some of his busine= ss practices late in his life.  I will say that Charles and his compan= y have been for a very long time, real friends and proponents of our commun= ity.   Charles had noticed that there seemed to be a lot of clutc= h issues with our cars and some of these issues no doubt blew back on him, = when new parts he sold didn't fix the issues (remember these problems are h= ard to tease apart). Being very well connected in the community he was able= to pull opinions from some of the most knowledgeable folks in our hobby an= d come of with a serious attempt at rectifying these clutch issues. Charles= realized that the reliability of the clutch mechanics was as important as = the clutch components themselves and pulled together a kit of parts that wo= uld significantly improve the probability of successful clutch repair. = ; So I think it is for real and not hype, that when you do a clutch job you= should replace everything. It isn't that much more money and it worth the = extra effort. He also discovered the Sachs clutch.  This clutch most r= esembles the original Laycock clutch design. This is the clutch I have used= in my car.  I have gone a bit further and added a feature that allows= me  to lubricate my clutch shaft with a grease gun. If you are intere= sted I can tell about this in another post. 

Despite= all of these there were still more people than there should have been that= were reporting clutch issues. A few years back a couple of sleuths uncover= ed the "dowel" bolts. In the parts lists, there are 2 special bolts among t= he many bolts that mate engine the bell housing.  These are referred t= o as "dowel bolts". Williams in his book obliquely mentions "locating bolts= ".  If the bell housing is misaligned to the engine even a little bit,= poor clutch performance results. These bolts have larger chanks and are lo= cated at 2 and 8 O'clock and align the transmission to the engine. If you l= ose these bolts or don't put them in first than you can have clutch issues = no matter what you do.  Many folks have installed hardened steel dowel= s in place of these bolts.  

Hopefully, this su= mmary will help you with your clutch replacement.  Please excuse the l= ength of it.  Many folks referred to different aspects of this story, = but I thought it would be good to put it all in one place.

Regards-
John Cyg
70 Damson
CC52927LO
------=_Part_1815149_117691770.1624296081017-- --===============3564838533191509002== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack --===============3564838533191509002==-- From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 21 13:24:15 2021 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC73A0CC1 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2021 13:24:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net (unknown [69.252.207.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55400A0B8F for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Mon, 21 Jun 2021 13:23:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.97]) by resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id vMYVltIKPp8dBvPW7lgP3V; Mon, 21 Jun 2021 19:23:31 +0000 s=20190202a; t=1624303411; bh=8R1H8kBYtCckXMb/vRlGdB1zV56xECCaRlISOhx5BGs=; h=Received:Received:From:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject: Message-Id:To:Date; b=FH3JNn6ZllrbYwzYcGD5JZWOdz3c5yZN44EnldYi0Wv0r/+UTXtC3hw4vCwt5ZTer lb2M/2ozHdWBYoPaHHtRuIPVkwmru8JyOd6qgIZ67VBxjRn8K9F3+V+zTtOjH5vUun POsQLFJMHi7bKwzATdgMqhnG2kFYxCT5qzijhmAnFatW35pzW3PCLZD9rreZZphsoz 5ARPxSkBETLlejeCM+GyO9e5u7nTlrk6HCydyk9LamKuBtK/z8oBj2KFFq9KHXMJOs F9bmE9gZIrggL4lO3r6RsTWLdYGlvinEz6cqAMMmJsxirfHbNfCYCpdWf3H3wcWU6P tKYaPDbMjAtaw== Received: from smtpclient.apple ([73.17.214.72]) by resomta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPSA id vPVvl2kK2yPBXvPW6lYWo4; Mon, 21 Jun 2021 19:23:31 +0000 From: Robert Rochlin References: <639737212.1815150.1624296081019@mail.yahoo.com> To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2021 15:23:19 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Fwd: Clutch Set Recommendations Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2169337166797769224== boundary="Apple-Mail=_4B74739D-6C65-4351-B1A9-5CC1C6F59238" --Apple-Mail=_4B74739D-6C65-4351-B1A9-5CC1C6F59238 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 John, Wow, that was an excellent detailed history of the TR6 clutch, = its problems and offered solutions. You really lay out the history of = the clutch and the machinations of the supply chain. Even though I=E2=80=99= ve had my TR6 for over 20 years I=E2=80=99ve never read so detailed an = explanation.=20 Antidotally, I=E2=80=99ve had a Gunst bearing set up in my car = that I got when they first came out and have always had a smooth clutch = acton and never any kind of issue with it. I=E2=80=99m not sure that = they sell them anymore thought. Thanks for taking the time John. Best, Bob =E2=80=9972 TR6 > Begin forwarded message: >=20 > From: John Cyganowski > Subject: Re: [6pack] Clutch Set Recommendations > Date: June 21, 2021 at 1:21:21 PM EDT > To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> >=20 > "The six cylinder car's clutch is not such a happy story and is the = Achilles Heel of the 6 cylinder cars." So says Roger Williams in his = book; How to Restore Triumph TR5/250 & TR6. >=20 > I am not going to reproduce that section of the book here, but I will = try to de-mystify this area of the car. >=20 > The issues center around: >=20 > a.) mechanical tolerances/design deficiency. > b.) supersession > c.) poor documentation >=20 > The clutch design does not have much allowance for wear & tear. = Originally a 0.75" Master Cylinder was fitted and this worked well but = their were complaints of "heavy clutch" with this system. During the = 1970 model year, the master cylinder was changed to a 0.70" unit. This = did soften up the clutch pressure, but now wear and tear deficiencies of = the mechanical parts became significant issues causing drag and partial = clutch disengagement. Bushing wear, clutch fork pin wear , cylinder = leaks etc. will cause poor performance. =20 >=20 > The car parts biz is quite dynamic, and companies get sold, go out of = business, or simply manage the life cycle of their products. Part of = this is that if they have a slow or small selling item, they look around = to see if they have another part with greater sales that could be use = for the slow selling application and they discontinue the part for the = slow selling application. The original clutch & driven plate were = Laycock units and worked quite well. But Laycock sold their clutch = business to LUK. LUK stopped making the TR6 Clutch some time ago. Enter = Borg & Beck. They offered a clutch for the TR6 that I think became a = standard. It worked quite well. But in time, they saw slow sales for = this model and it disappeared from the inventory. B&B used colored paint = spots to mark their different pressure plates - I believe there was a = "Yellow-spot" a "Green-Spot" and a "Blue-spot". I don't recall which = one was used on the TR6, but it was discontinued and superceded with one = of the other clutches. Should be ok right? It fits right? No problem = then! Wrong! Wrong because one of these clutches was designed for a = much heavier vehicle (Van). You want a good tight clutch right? Yes, = but excessive spring pressure is very hard on the thrust washers when = the clutch is disengaged. Not a good situation. Also it increases = pressure on the clutch fork pin and can break it. Anyone who has ever = had a broken clutch fork pin knows what a PITA it is. Then B&B was sold = to Delphi and that product line was rationalized with yet another clutch = that had "cranked" spring fingers. Another generic parts vendor Quinton = Hazel also has such a clutch. I have heard mixed reports on this type, = with some folks reporting squealing and other reporting good operation. = I can only tell you that their original Laycock design was straight = fingered. Some of the squealing reports seem to be linked with larger = throw-out bearings when used with the cranked fingered clutches. Now = some info about the throw-out bearings. >=20 > The original configuration was an RHP bearing on a bronze carrier that = was pinned. A while back reports came out about premature failures with = the RHP bearings. Either a bad batch of bearing was made or quality had = suffered. It is hard to know what happened, because once a part like = this gets a "black-eye", people move away from them because they are = such a pain to change, nobody wants to take a chance on it again. I am = not saying that RHP bearings are good or bad, simply relating what I = have heard. Anecdote - This became an issue for me because I was a = "clutch rider" (head hung in shame). I would sit there at a light with = my left foot on the clutch and my foot on the brake. After a while I = began to hear my bearing (an RHP as it turns out) whirring away. So = when I pulled the tranny for another project, I decided that I should = get a new bearing and it would not be an RHP. Now was it a crappy = bearing or a crappy driver that was the issue? These things are hard to = tease apart. There are now a number of brands out there, but I will = mention 3. The Koyo bearing was originally designed for a Landcruiser. = It was larger than the other bearings. Some folks love'em and some = folks have reporting squealing. It is true that being a larger bearing = it is going to take more force to overcome inertia and get it spinning. = There is another bearing that comes highly recommended called KYK. Never = used one but would because of this recommendation from a source that I = trust. Gunst has become a dirty name in some quarters of the Triumph = community. It was hyped as a godsend, and then a few problems were = mentioned (hard to track down the variables). I will say that the Gust = bearings are different in that they are meant to contact the clutch at = all times. I have put one in my car. I don't know what to expect but I = hope for the best. Finally carriers. Bronze carriers have been = mentioned as preferred. It makes sense as they are useful in = circumstances when you have surface movements in that bronze seems to = resist abrasion and not gall. Mating the carrier to the bearing is a = precision operation. Most of us should either buy a bearing that is = mated to the carrier or have a good machine shop do it for you. "Pinned" = refers to a hardened pin that prevents the bearing carrier from rotating = on the clutch fork pin. This makes sense to me as we want to gearing to = rotate and not the carrier. I know folks who have had squealing issue = without a pin. Again drilling and installing an anti-rotation pin is = best left to a shop for most of us. >=20 > "Magic Clutch" Kit - Hype or for real? A word about Charles Runyon. = Charles Runyon, the former proprietor of the Roadster Factory has = recently passed away. I won't speak ill of the dead except to = acknowledge that some folks in our community may have got hurt over some = of his business practices late in his life. I will say that Charles and = his company have been for a very long time, real friends and proponents = of our community. Charles had noticed that there seemed to be a lot of = clutch issues with our cars and some of these issues no doubt blew back = on him, when new parts he sold didn't fix the issues (remember these = problems are hard to tease apart). Being very well connected in the = community he was able to pull opinions from some of the most = knowledgeable folks in our hobby and come of with a serious attempt at = rectifying these clutch issues. Charles realized that the reliability of = the clutch mechanics was as important as the clutch components = themselves and pulled together a kit of parts that would significantly = improve the probability of successful clutch repair. So I think it is = for real and not hype, that when you do a clutch job you should replace = everything. It isn't that much more money and it worth the extra effort. = He also discovered the Sachs clutch. This clutch most resembles the = original Laycock clutch design. This is the clutch I have used in my = car. I have gone a bit further and added a feature that allows me to = lubricate my clutch shaft with a grease gun. If you are interested I can = tell about this in another post.=20 >=20 > Despite all of these there were still more people than there should = have been that were reporting clutch issues. A few years back a couple = of sleuths uncovered the "dowel" bolts. In the parts lists, there are 2 = special bolts among the many bolts that mate engine the bell housing. = These are referred to as "dowel bolts". Williams in his book obliquely = mentions "locating bolts". If the bell housing is misaligned to the = engine even a little bit, poor clutch performance results. These bolts = have larger chanks and are located at 2 and 8 O'clock and align the = transmission to the engine. If you lose these bolts or don't put them in = first than you can have clutch issues no matter what you do. Many folks = have installed hardened steel dowels in place of these bolts. =20 >=20 > Hopefully, this summary will help you with your clutch replacement. = Please excuse the length of it. Many folks referred to different = aspects of this story, but I thought it would be good to put it all in = one place. >=20 > Regards- > John Cyg > 70 Damson > CC52927LO > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >=20 >=20 > 6pack@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >=20 > Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/rrochlin@comcast.net >=20 --Apple-Mail=_4B74739D-6C65-4351-B1A9-5CC1C6F59238 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 John,
Wow, that was an excellent = detailed history of the TR6 clutch, its problems and offered solutions. = You really lay out the history of the clutch and the machinations of the = supply chain.  Even though I=E2=80=99ve had my TR6 for over 20 = years I=E2=80=99ve never read so detailed an = explanation. 
Antidotally, I=E2=80=99ve had a = Gunst bearing set up in my car that I got when they first came out and = have always had a smooth clutch acton and never any kind of issue with = it.  I=E2=80=99m not sure that they sell them anymore = thought.
Thanks for taking the time = John.
Best,
= Bob
=E2=80=9972 TR6

Begin forwarded message:

From: = John Cyganowski <janah@att.net>
Subject: = Re: [6pack] = Clutch Set Recommendations
Date: = June 21, 2021 at 1:21:21 PM = EDT
To: = "6pack@autox.team.net" = <6pack@autox.team.net>

"The  six = cylinder car's clutch is not such a happy story and is the Achilles Heel = of the 6 cylinder cars."  So says Roger Williams in his book; How to Restore Triumph TR5/250 & TR6.

I = am not going to reproduce that section of the book here, but I will try = to de-mystify this area of the car.

The issues center = around:

a.) mechanical tolerances/design = deficiency.
b.) supersession
c.) poor documentation

The clutch = design does not have much allowance for wear & tear. Originally a = 0.75" Master Cylinder was fitted and this worked well but their were = complaints of "heavy clutch" with this system. During the 1970 model = year, the master cylinder was changed to a 0.70" unit. This did soften = up the clutch pressure, but now wear and tear deficiencies of the = mechanical parts became significant issues causing drag and partial = clutch disengagement. Bushing wear, clutch fork pin wear , cylinder = leaks etc. will cause poor performance.  

The car = parts biz is quite dynamic, and companies get sold, go out of business, = or simply manage the life cycle of their products. Part of this is that = if they have a slow or small selling item, they look around to see if = they have another part with greater sales that could be use for the slow = selling application and they discontinue the part for the slow selling = application.  The original clutch & driven plate were Laycock = units and worked quite well.  But Laycock sold their clutch = business to LUK. LUK stopped making the TR6 Clutch some time ago.  = Enter Borg & Beck.  They offered a clutch for the TR6 that I = think became a standard.  It worked quite well. But in time, they = saw slow sales for this model and it disappeared from the inventory. = B&B used colored paint spots to mark their different pressure plates = - I believe there was a "Yellow-spot" a "Green-Spot" and a = "Blue-spot".  I don't recall which one was used on the TR6, but it = was discontinued and superceded with one of the other clutches. Should = be ok right?  It fits right?  No problem then!  Wrong! = Wrong because one of these clutches was designed for a much heavier = vehicle (Van). You want a good tight clutch right?  Yes, but = excessive spring pressure is very hard on the thrust washers when the = clutch is disengaged.  Not a good situation. Also it increases = pressure on the clutch fork pin and can break it. Anyone who has ever = had a broken clutch fork pin knows what a PITA it is. Then B&B was = sold to Delphi and that product line was rationalized with yet another = clutch that had "cranked" spring fingers. Another generic parts vendor = Quinton Hazel also has such a clutch.  I have heard mixed reports = on this type, with some folks reporting squealing and other reporting = good operation.  I can only tell you that their original Laycock = design was straight fingered. Some of the squealing reports seem to be = linked with larger throw-out bearings when used with the cranked = fingered clutches.  Now some info about the throw-out = bearings.

The original configuration = was an RHP bearing on a bronze carrier that was pinned. A while back = reports came out about premature failures with the RHP bearings. Either = a bad batch of bearing was made or quality had suffered. It is hard to = know what happened, because once a part like this gets a "black-eye", = people move away from them because they are such a pain to change, = nobody wants to take a chance on it again.  I am not saying that = RHP bearings are good or bad, simply relating what I have heard.  = Anecdote - This became an issue for me because I was a "clutch rider" = (head hung in shame).  I would sit there at a light with my left = foot on the clutch and my foot on the brake. After  a while I began = to hear my bearing (an RHP as it turns out) whirring away.  So when = I pulled the tranny for another project, I decided that I should get a = new bearing and it would not be an RHP.  Now was it a crappy = bearing or a crappy driver that was the issue?  These things are = hard to tease apart.  There are now a number of brands out there, = but I will mention 3.  The Koyo bearing was originally designed for = a Landcruiser. It was larger than the other bearings.  Some folks = love'em and some folks have reporting squealing.  It is true that = being a larger bearing it is going to take more force to overcome = inertia and get it spinning. There is another bearing that comes highly = recommended called KYK. Never used one but would because of this = recommendation from a source that I trust. Gunst has become a dirty name = in some quarters of the Triumph community.  It was hyped as a = godsend, and then a few problems were mentioned (hard to track down the = variables).  I will say that the Gust bearings are different in = that they are meant to contact the clutch at all times.  I have put = one in my car.  I don't know what to expect but I hope for the = best.  Finally carriers.  Bronze carriers have been mentioned = as preferred. It makes sense as they are useful in circumstances when = you have surface movements in that bronze seems to resist abrasion and = not gall. Mating the carrier to the bearing is a precision = operation.  Most of us should either buy a bearing that is mated to = the carrier or have a good machine shop do it for you. "Pinned" refers = to a hardened pin that prevents the bearing carrier from rotating on the = clutch fork pin. This makes sense to me as we want to gearing to rotate = and not the carrier.  I know folks who have had squealing issue = without a pin. Again drilling and installing an anti-rotation pin is = best left to a shop for most of us.

"Magic Clutch" Kit - Hype or for = real?  A word about Charles Runyon. Charles Runyon, the former = proprietor of the Roadster Factory has recently passed away.  I = won't speak ill of the dead except to acknowledge that some folks in our = community may have got hurt over some of his business practices late in = his life.  I will say that Charles and his company have been for a = very long time, real friends and proponents of our community.  =  Charles had noticed that there seemed to be a lot of clutch issues = with our cars and some of these issues no doubt blew back on him, when = new parts he sold didn't fix the issues (remember these problems are = hard to tease apart). Being very well connected in the community he was = able to pull opinions from some of the most knowledgeable folks in our = hobby and come of with a serious attempt at rectifying these clutch = issues. Charles realized that the reliability of the clutch mechanics = was as important as the clutch components themselves and pulled together = a kit of parts that would significantly improve the probability of = successful clutch repair.  So I think it is for real and not hype, = that when you do a clutch job you should replace everything. It isn't = that much more money and it worth the extra effort. He also discovered = the Sachs clutch.  This clutch most resembles the original Laycock = clutch design. This is the clutch I have used in my car.  I have = gone a bit further and added a feature that allows me  to lubricate = my clutch shaft with a grease gun. If you are interested I can tell = about this in another post. 

Despite all of these there were still = more people than there should have been that were reporting clutch = issues. A few years back a couple of sleuths uncovered the "dowel" = bolts. In the parts lists, there are 2 special bolts among the many = bolts that mate engine the bell housing.  These are referred to as = "dowel bolts". Williams in his book obliquely mentions "locating = bolts".  If the bell housing is misaligned to the engine even a = little bit, poor clutch performance results. These bolts have larger = chanks and are located at 2 and 8 O'clock and align the transmission to = the engine. If you lose these bolts or don't put them in first than you = can have clutch issues no matter what you do.  Many folks have = installed hardened steel dowels in place of these = bolts.  

Hopefully, this summary will help you with your clutch = replacement.  Please excuse the length of it.  Many folks = referred to different aspects of this story, but I thought it would be = good to put it all in one place.

Regards-
John Cyg
70 Damson
CC52927LO
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Tue, 22 Jun 2021 01:20:40 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 01:20:18 +0000 (UTC) From: Yahoo To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> References: <458772113.1388245.1624324818515.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: [6pack] My tr6 clutch recommendation Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2691708293325034969== boundary="----=_Part_1388244_810046652.1624324818514" ------=_Part_1388244_810046652.1624324818514 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I went with luk clutch kit with the german gunst throw-out bearing availabl= e from trf at the time.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I did absolutely everything I could th= ink of with the trannie out, including all the additional clutch related pa= rts trf recommends.=C2=A0 Not clutch related , but=C2=A0 easy to measure th= rust washer wear at rear of engine=C2=A0 =C2=A0with trannie out.=C2=A0 Led = to dropping oil pan, some new thrust=C2=A0 washers, an engine steel front s= ealing block=C2=A0 blueprinting oil pump and pan cleanup,=C2=A0 flywheel li= ghtening and new ring.=C2=A0 .75 clutch master.=C2=A0 =C2=A0A little tranni= e tune up with it on the bench.=C2=A0 Insulate floor.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Back to c= lutch,=C2=A0 Yes my clutch is a bit stiff,=C2=A0 but it has been flawless f= or many years now.=C2=A0Good luck.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 You don't want a second tri= p in there anytime soon, so maybe the magic kit is the way to go. Bruce Simms 73TR6 with A type OD Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ------=_Part_1388244_810046652.1624324818514 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I went with luk clutch kit with the = german gunst throw-out bearing available from trf at the time.   = I did absolutely everything I could think of with the trannie out, includi= ng all the additional clutch related parts trf recommends.  Not clutch= related , but  easy to measure thrust washer wear at rear of engine&n= bsp;  with trannie out.  Led to dropping oil pan, some new thrust=   washers, an engine steel front sealing block  blueprinting oil = pump and pan cleanup,  flywheel lightening and new ring.  .75 clu= tch master.   A little trannie tune up with it on the bench. = ; Insulate floor.   Back to clutch,  Yes my clutch is a bit = stiff,  but it has been flawless for many years now. 
Good luck.&= nbsp;   You don't want a second trip in there anytime soon, so maybe t= he magic kit is the way to go.

Bruce Simms 73TR6 with A type OD

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Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8627287965087903845== Content-Language: en-US boundary="_000_BN8PR08MB6241F3B08BDCAF9780EB6A0F8E099BN8PR08MB6241namp_" --_000_BN8PR08MB6241F3B08BDCAF9780EB6A0F8E099BN8PR08MB6241namp_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey guys, I think I never came back to give an update. I did order another Moss seal,= and put this one in with just a thin layer of the black gasket maker. No l= eaks. Thanks as always for all the help/suggestions. Sloane ________________________________ SO, do I try another Moss seal, try to smooth out that surface, and maybe e= ven a thin coat of the gasket maker? Or is the TRF seal worth it? any advice? Sloane 69-Six 72-Spit --_000_BN8PR08MB6241F3B08BDCAF9780EB6A0F8E099BN8PR08MB6241namp_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey guys, 
I think I never came back to give an update. I did order another Moss seal,= and put this one in with just a thin layer of the black gasket maker. No l= eaks. 
Thanks as always for all the help/suggestions. 

Sloane 



SO, do I try another Moss seal, try to smooth out that surface, and maybe e= ven a thin coat of the gasket maker? Or is the TRF seal worth it?

any advice? 

Sloane 
69-Six
72-Spit
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After 2 months back and forth, I figured I'd better just take the= ir money and be done with it. Sloane ________________________________ . I hate to have a salvage title for such a little bit of damage. Any advi= ce? Sloane --_000_BN8PR08MB62415981999D6EE34D7330DB8E099BN8PR08MB6241namp_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Oh, and for an update on the Spitfire, I couldn't talk Progressive out tota= ling it.  After 2 months back and forth, I figured I'd better just tak= e their money and be done with it. 

Sloane 

.  I hat= e to have a salvage title for such a little bit of damage. Any advice?

Sloane
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Sorry for the spelling errors - the most egregious was "gearing" instead of "bearing". Some of this was the auto spell check.

John Cyg
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Modified 1974 Triumph TR6 5-Speed for sale on BaT Auctions - ending June 4 = (Lot #49,079) | Bring a Trailer If you look at it closely, you'll see it's got a more aggressive profile th= an the stock spoiler that Triumph fitted to TR6's from 1973 onwards.=C2=A0 = I asked the owner where he got it, but it was already fitted to the car bef= ore he bought it, so he doesn't really know.=C2=A0 He commented that he thi= nks it came from Rimmer in UK, but looking at their website it just again l= ooks like the OE style.=C2=A0 Anyone know anything about this style of spoiler?=C2=A0 I love the look! Regards,Tim Holbrook1971 TR6 ------=_Part_5229955_490555776.1624811832838 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi everyone,

I saw this car come up for sale on Brin= g A Trailer a while back, and the front spoiler caught my eye.


If you look at it closely, you'll see it's got a more aggressive p= rofile than the stock spoiler that Triumph fitted to TR6's from 1973 onward= s.  I asked the owner where he got it, but it was already fitted to th= e car before he bought it, so he doesn't really know.  He commented th= at he thinks it came from Rimmer in UK, but looking at their website it jus= t again looks like the OE style. 

Anyone know anything about this style of spoiler?  I love the l= ook!

Regards,
Tim Holbrook
1971 TR6
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I know = Racetorations in the UK sells spoilers like = this:

 

 

Disclaimer:=C2=A0 my cousin, Darryl = Uprichard, owns Racetorations.=C2=A0 No financial interest, = sadly=E2=80=A6

 

Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, Michigan

 

 

 =

If you = look at it closely, you'll see it's got a more aggressive profile than = the stock spoiler that Triumph fitted to TR6's from 1973 onwards.  = I asked the owner where he got it, but it was already fitted to the car = before he bought it, so he doesn't really know.  He commented that = he thinks it came from Rimmer in UK, but looking at their website it = just again looks like the OE = style. 

 =

Anyone = know anything about this style of spoiler?  I love the = look!

 =

Regards,

Tim = Holbrook

1971 = TR6

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Sun, 27 Jun 2021 18:27:49 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 18:27:33 +0000 (UTC) From: DAVID MASSEY To: "auprichard@uprichard.net" , "tjh173@yahoo.com" , "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> References: <472526120.5229956.1624811832839.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <472526120.5229956.1624811832839@mail.yahoo.com> <00aa01d76b7c$3306a830$9913f890$@uprichard.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] Front spoiler Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6553372491680402042== boundary="----=_Part_930373_1954049675.1624818453528" ------=_Part_930373_1954049675.1624818453528 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What?=C2=A0 No family discount? Nice spoiler.=C2=A0 Cooling ducts and everything. =20 Dave=20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: auprichard@uprichard.net To: 'Timothy Holbrook' ; '6Pack List' <6pack@autox.team.n= et> Sent: Sun, Jun 27, 2021 12:45 pm Subject: Re: [6pack] Front spoiler I know Racetoration= s in the UK sells spoilers like this: =C2=A0http://www.racetorations.co.uk/= triumph-c56/tr4-c6/tr4-body-and-exterior-trim-c68/racetorations-tr4-6-front= -spoiler-c-w-cooling-ducts-p1334 =C2=A0Disclaimer:=C2=A0 my cousin, Darryl = Uprichard, owns Racetorations.=C2=A0 No financial interest, sadly=E2=80=A6 = =C2=A0Andrew UprichardJackson, Michigan =C2=A0From: 6pack <6pack-bounces@au= tox.team.net> On Behalf Of Timothy Holbrook Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 12:37 PM To: 6Pack List <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: [6pack] Front spoiler =C2=A0Hi everyone, =C2=A0I saw this car come= up for sale on Bring A Trailer a while back,=C2=A0and the front spoiler ca= ught my eye. =C2=A0Modified 1974 Triumph TR6 5-Speed for sale on BaT Auctio= ns - ending June 4 (Lot #49,079) | Bring a Trailer =C2=A0If you look at it = closely, you'll see it's got a more aggressive profile than the stock spoil= er that Triumph fitted to TR6's from 1973 onwards.=C2=A0 I asked the owner = where he got it, but it was already fitted to the car before he bought it, = so he doesn't really know.=C2=A0 He commented that he thinks it came from R= immer in UK, but looking at their website it just again looks like the OE s= tyle.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Anyone know anything about this style of spoiler?=C2=A0 I= love the look! =C2=A0Regards,Tim Holbrook1971 TR6_________________________= ______________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack @cs.com ------=_Part_930373_1954049675.1624818453528 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What?  No family discount?

Nice spoiler.  Cooling ducts and everything.

Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: auprichard@uprichard.net
To: 'Timothy Holbrook' <tjh173@yahoo.com>; '6Pack List' <6pack@aut= ox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Jun 27, 2021 12:45 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Front spoiler

I know Racetorations in the UK sel= ls spoilers like this:
 
http://www.racetorations.co.uk/triumph-c56/tr4-c6/tr4= -body-and-exterior-trim-c68/racetorations-tr4-6-front-spoiler-c-w-cooling-d= ucts-p1334
 
Disclaimer:  my cousin, Darry= l Uprichard, owns Racetorations.  No financial interest, sadly=E2=80= =A6
 
Andrew Uprichard
Jackson, Michigan
 
From: 6pack <6pack-bounces@= autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Timothy Holbrook
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 12:37 PM
To: 6Pack List <6pack@autox.team.net>
Subject: [6pack] Front spoiler
 
Hi everyone,
 
I saw this car come up for sale = on Bring A Trailer a while back, and the front spoiler caught my eye.<= /span>
 
 
If you look at it closely, you'l= l see it's got a more aggressive profile than the stock spoiler that Triump= h fitted to TR6's from 1973 onwards.  I asked the owner where he got i= t, but it was already fitted to the car before he bought it, so he doesn't = really know.  He commented that he thinks it came from Rimmer in UK, b= ut looking at their website it just again looks like the OE style. 
 
Anyone know anything about this = style of spoiler?  I love the look!
 
Regards,
Tim Holbrook
1971 TR6
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------=_Part_930373_1954049675.1624818453528-- --===============6553372491680402042== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack --===============6553372491680402042==-- From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 27 13:36:01 2021 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50BFDA1419 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2021 13:36:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa11-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (unknown [68.178.252.104]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE80A0B2C for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Sun, 27 Jun 2021 13:35:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DESKTOP9E9KOPR ([174.211.5.51]) by :SMTPAUTH: with ESMTPSA id xaZClCNWUDmEVxaZDlLMTM; Sun, 27 Jun 2021 12:35:43 -0700 a=sRe4IsvaxCE33VZT0Fnjuw==:117 a=sRe4IsvaxCE33VZT0Fnjuw==:17 a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=J5Jfo_ckAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=oj19BjzFAAAA:8 a=USn-Q09IAAAA:8 a=Q41gyaEjoUNeizLDOWUA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=HfyNyLHj6OmVVG9fdEkA:9 a=L-CaJUC3N-_HLvFl:21 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=fLABDK-36gGBcuUtNrhR:22 a=pjL6iD4Q3Ml28u33qGFb:22 a=GGGinmgZRQXmVEG1E52S:22 a=rNzuHaUmLe3wAe31aoV8:22 a=e-VzALvPOp8p_u3OUvV3:22 From: To: "'DAVID MASSEY'" , , <6pack@autox.team.net> References: <472526120.5229956.1624811832839.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <472526120.5229956.1624811832839@mail.yahoo.com> <00aa01d76b7c$3306a830$9913f890$@uprichard.net> <2073519945.930374.1624818453531@mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 15:35:42 -0400 Thread-Index: AQJk33zEkMyhwJwr64Hvys2o6nPDPwHUkWzHArizKkUBofSRG6nb3U4g Content-Language: en-us x2jZ2Da8c3F0mKYrb8C5eDEjei5oOfYberKRSbVZlo+PKtUio6dinRwmV/OTXUM/XY2b4W69hlaNh30FDcIeEbMESBIrdlzoi/qm31/LhuaM0+S6bBOKP5zH aaFLvElxGuTSn2qWMX7YWw== Subject: Re: [6pack] Front spoiler Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============1377729568147472030== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01D76B6A.17F11560" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01D76B6A.17F11560 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mention my name and he=E2=80=99ll probably add a surcharge !! =20 Darryl=E2=80=99s father and mine were brothers who grew up in Ireland. = Both went to war (WWII): my father returned to Ireland while = Darryl=E2=80=99s settled in England. I never knew about my English = cousin until I bought my first TR!! =20 People say they are expensive (and I guess they can be) but all their = stuff is good. Not for the everyday driver, but I have used them = extensively for my two fast-road cars and am happy with what I bought. =20 Andrew =20 From: DAVID MASSEY =20 Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 2:28 PM To: auprichard@uprichard.net; tjh173@yahoo.com; 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] Front spoiler =20 What? No family discount? =20 Nice spoiler. Cooling ducts and everything. =20 Dave=20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- Sent: Sun, Jun 27, 2021 12:45 pm Subject: Re: [6pack] Front spoiler I know Racetorations in the UK sells spoilers like this: =20 http://www.racetorations.co.uk/triumph-c56/tr4-c6/tr4-body-and-exterior-t= rim-c68/racetorations-tr4-6-front-spoiler-c-w-cooling-ducts-p1334 =20 Disclaimer: my cousin, Darryl Uprichard, owns Racetorations. No = financial interest, sadly=E2=80=A6 =20 Andrew Uprichard Jackson, Michigan =20 From: 6pack <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net = Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 12:37 PM Subject: [6pack] Front spoiler =20 Hi everyone, =20 I saw this car come up for sale on Bring A Trailer a while back, and the = front spoiler caught my eye. =20 Modified 1974 Triumph TR6 5-Speed for sale on BaT Auctions - ending June = 4 (Lot #49,079) | Bring a Trailer = =20 =20 If you look at it closely, you'll see it's got a more aggressive profile = than the stock spoiler that Triumph fitted to TR6's from 1973 onwards. = I asked the owner where he got it, but it was already fitted to the car = before he bought it, so he doesn't really know. He commented that he = thinks it came from Rimmer in UK, but looking at their website it just = again looks like the OE style.=20 =20 Anyone know anything about this style of spoiler? I love the look! =20 Regards, Tim Holbrook 1971 TR6 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/dave1massey@cs.com ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01D76B6A.17F11560 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Mention my = name and he=E2=80=99ll probably add a surcharge = !!

 

Darryl=E2=80=99s father and mine were = brothers who grew up in Ireland.=C2=A0 Both went to war (WWII):=C2=A0 my = father returned to Ireland while Darryl=E2=80=99s settled in = England.=C2=A0 I never knew about my English cousin until I bought my = first TR!!

 

People say they are expensive (and I guess = they can be) but all their stuff is good.=C2=A0 Not for the everyday = driver, but I have used them extensively for my two fast-road cars and = am happy with what I bought.

 

Andrew

 

From: DAVID MASSEY = <dave1massey@cs.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 2:28 = PM
To: auprichard@uprichard.net; tjh173@yahoo.com; = 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] Front = spoiler

 

Wha= t?  No family discount?

 

Nic= e spoiler.  Cooling ducts and = everything.

 

Dav= e

 

 

---= --Original Message-----
From: auprichard@uprichard.net
= To: 'Timothy Holbrook' <tjh173@yahoo.com>; '6Pack List' = <6pack@autox.team.net>
Sent= : Sun, Jun 27, 2021 12:45 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Front = spoiler

I know Racetorations in the UK sells = spoilers like this:

 

 

Disclaimer:  my cousin, Darryl = Uprichard, owns Racetorations.  No financial interest, = sadly=E2=80=A6

 

Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, Michigan

 

Fro= m: = 6pack <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net= > On Behalf Of Timothy Holbrook
Sent: Sunday, = June 27, 2021 12:37 PM
To: 6Pack List <6pack@autox.team.net>
S= ubject: [6pack] Front = spoiler

&nb= sp;

Hi everyone,

 

I saw this car come up for sale on Bring A Trailer a while = back, and the front spoiler caught my eye.

 

 

If you look at it closely, you'll see it's got a more aggressive = profile than the stock spoiler that Triumph fitted to TR6's from 1973 = onwards.  I asked the owner where he got it, but it was already = fitted to the car before he bought it, so he doesn't really know.  = He commented that he thinks it came from Rimmer in UK, but looking at = their website it just again looks like the OE style. 

 

Anyone know anything about this style of spoiler?  I love the = look!

 

Regards,

Tim Holbrook

1971 TR6

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Sun, 27 Jun 2021 21:44:18 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 21:44:16 +0000 (UTC) From: DAVID MASSEY To: "auprichard@uprichard.net" , "tjh173@yahoo.com" , "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> References: <472526120.5229956.1624811832839.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <472526120.5229956.1624811832839@mail.yahoo.com> <00aa01d76b7c$3306a830$9913f890$@uprichard.net> <2073519945.930374.1624818453531@mail.yahoo.com> <003201d76b8b$9f004460$dd00cd20$@uprichard.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] Front spoiler Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1623991982126961069== boundary="----=_Part_491810_155075770.1624830256712" ------=_Part_491810_155075770.1624830256712 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You can always live vicariously through him, I suppose. ;-) =20 Dave=20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: auprichard@uprichard.net To: 'DAVID MASSEY' ; tjh173@yahoo.com; 6pack@autox.team= .net Sent: Sun, Jun 27, 2021 2:35 pm Subject: RE: [6pack] Front spoiler #yiv0001791867 #yiv0001791867 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv= 0001791867 #yiv0001791867 p.yiv0001791867MsoNormal, #yiv0001791867 li.yiv00= 01791867MsoNormal, #yiv0001791867 div.yiv0001791867MsoNormal {margin:0in;fo= nt-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv0001791867 a:link, #yiv000179186= 7 span.yiv0001791867MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yi= v0001791867 span.yiv0001791867EmailStyle28 {font-family:New serif;color:#1F= 497D;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none none;}#yiv00= 01791867 .yiv0001791867MsoChpDefault {font-family:sans-serif;} _filtered {}= #yiv0001791867 div.yiv0001791867WordSection1 {}#yiv0001791867 Mention my na= me and he=E2=80=99ll probably add a surcharge !! =C2=A0Darryl=E2=80=99s fat= her and mine were brothers who grew up in Ireland.=C2=A0 Both went to war (= WWII):=C2=A0 my father returned to Ireland while Darryl=E2=80=99s settled i= n England.=C2=A0 I never knew about my English cousin until I bought my fir= st TR!! =C2=A0People say they are expensive (and I guess they can be) but a= ll their stuff is good.=C2=A0 Not for the everyday driver, but I have used = them extensively for my two fast-road cars and am happy with what I bought.= =C2=A0Andrew =C2=A0From: DAVID MASSEY =20 Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 2:28 PM To: auprichard@uprichard.net; tjh173@yahoo.com; 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] Front spoiler =C2=A0What?=C2=A0 No family discount? = =C2=A0Nice spoiler.=C2=A0 Cooling ducts and everything. =C2=A0Dave =C2=A0 = =C2=A0-----Original Message----- From: auprichard@uprichard.net To: 'Timothy Holbrook' ; '6Pack List' <6pack@autox.team.n= et> Sent: Sun, Jun 27, 2021 12:45 pm Subject: Re: [6pack] Front spoilerI know Racetorations in the UK sells spoi= lers like this:=C2=A0http://www.racetorations.co.uk/triumph-c56/tr4-c6/tr4-= body-and-exterior-trim-c68/racetorations-tr4-6-front-spoiler-c-w-cooling-du= cts-p1334=C2=A0Disclaimer:=C2=A0 my cousin, Darryl Uprichard, owns Racetora= tions.=C2=A0 No financial interest, sadly=E2=80=A6=C2=A0Andrew UprichardJac= kson, Michigan=C2=A0From: 6pack <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of= Timothy Holbrook Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 12:37 PM To: 6Pack List <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: [6pack] Front spoiler=C2=A0Hi everyone,=C2=A0I saw this car come u= p for sale on Bring A Trailer a while back,=C2=A0and the front spoiler caug= ht my eye.=C2=A0Modified 1974 Triumph TR6 5-Speed for sale on BaT Auctions = - ending June 4 (Lot #49,079) | Bring a Trailer=C2=A0If you look at it clos= ely, you'll see it's got a more aggressive profile than the stock spoiler t= hat Triumph fitted to TR6's from 1973 onwards.=C2=A0 I asked the owner wher= e he got it, but it was already fitted to the car before he bought it, so h= e doesn't really know.=C2=A0 He commented that he thinks it came from Rimme= r in UK, but looking at their website it just again looks like the OE style= .=C2=A0=C2=A0Anyone know anything about this style of spoiler?=C2=A0 I love= the look!=C2=A0Regards,Tim Holbrook1971 TR6_______________________________= ________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack @cs.com ------=_Part_491810_155075770.1624830256712 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You can always live vicariously through him, I suppo= se.

;-)

Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: auprichard@uprichard.net
To: 'DAVID MASSEY' <dave1massey@cs.com>; tjh173@yahoo.com; 6pack@auto= x.team.net
Sent: Sun, Jun 27, 2021 2:35 pm
Subject: RE: [6pack] Front spoiler

Mention my name and he=E2=80=99ll probably add a surcharge = !!
 
Darryl=E2=80=99s father and mine were brothers who grew up = in Ireland.  Both went to war (WWII):  my father returned to Irel= and while Darryl=E2=80=99s settled in England.  I never knew about my = English cousin until I bought my first TR!!
 
People say they are expensive (and I guess they can be) but= all their stuff is good.  Not for the everyday driver, but I have use= d them extensively for my two fast-road cars and am happy with what I bough= t.
 
Andrew
 
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1ma= ssey@cs.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 2:28 = PM
To: auprichard@uprichard.net; tjh173@yahoo.com;= 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] Front s= poiler
 
What?  No family discount?
 
Nice spoiler.  Cooling ducts and every= thing.
 
Dave
 
 
-----Origin= al Message-----
From: auprichard@uprichard.net
To: 'Timothy Holbrook' <tjh173@yahoo.com>; '6Pack Lis= t' <6pack@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Jun 27, 20= 21 12:45 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Front spoiler
I know Racetorations in the UK sells spoil= ers like this:
 
 
Disclaimer:  my cousin, Darryl Uprich= ard, owns Racetorations.  No financial interest, sadly=E2=80=A6=
 
Andrew Uprichard
Jackson, Michigan
 
From: 6pack <6pa= ck-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Timothy Holbrook
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 12:37 PM
To: 6Pack List <6pack@autox.team.net>
<= b>Subject: [6pack] Front spoiler
 
Hi everyone,
 
I saw this car come up for sale on Bring A = Trailer a while back, and the front spoiler caught my eye.
 
 
If you look at it closely, you'll see it's = got a more aggressive profile than the stock spoiler that Triumph fitted to= TR6's from 1973 onwards.  I asked the owner where he got it, but it w= as already fitted to the car before he bought it, so he doesn't really know= .  He commented that he thinks it came from Rimmer in UK, but looking = at their website it just again looks like the OE style. 
 
Anyone know anything about this style of sp= oiler?  I love the look!
 
Regards,
Tim Holbrook
1971 TR6
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------=_Part_491810_155075770.1624830256712-- --===============1623991982126961069== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 6pack@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack --===============1623991982126961069==-- From 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 28 08:16:24 2021 Return-Path: <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C211A1137 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 08:16:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: 6pack@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa08-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (unknown [173.201.193.107]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9942EA0EDE for <6pack@autox.team.net>; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 08:12:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from TR3a ([70.113.144.162]) by :SMTPAUTH: with ESMTPSA id xrznlrJazImSIxrzolHErj; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 07:12:21 -0700 a=KXMrHgSagCIti5hztBmXkQ==:117 a=KXMrHgSagCIti5hztBmXkQ==:17 a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=J5Jfo_ckAAAA:8 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=oj19BjzFAAAA:8 a=USn-Q09IAAAA:8 a=QOQXHedvHYDHZY1XYEoA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=yWmzhqopY2BLIk_85MkA:9 a=vcBHLJoRRvzUw60j:21 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=GGGinmgZRQXmVEG1E52S:22 a=pjL6iD4Q3Ml28u33qGFb:22 a=fLABDK-36gGBcuUtNrhR:22 a=rNzuHaUmLe3wAe31aoV8:22 a=e-VzALvPOp8p_u3OUvV3:22 From: "dave" To: <6pack@autox.team.net> References: <472526120.5229956.1624811832839.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <472526120.5229956.1624811832839@mail.yahoo.com> <00aa01d76b7c$3306a830$9913f890$@uprichard.net> <2073519945.930374.1624818453531@mail.yahoo.com> <003201d76b8b$9f004460$dd00cd20$@uprichard.net> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 09:12:20 -0500 Thread-Index: AQJk33zEkMyhwJwr64Hvys2o6nPDPwHUkWzHArizKkUBofSRGwJsPL4mqcm0aUA= Content-Language: en-us i7gYJus9XLQM9TTeU+bRQykAmlAZrX5KmTVG2iARX5UP+27hbm6rCrlg7mi84FpQyydAlgmHLL9IZQ== Subject: Re: [6pack] Front spoiler Errors-To: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============7334172671224574588== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01D76BFD.B4CD4B90" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01D76BFD.B4CD4B90 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have their billet aluminum water pump. Expensive but well worth it. =20 From: 6pack <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of = auprichard@uprichard.net Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 2:36 PM To: 'DAVID MASSEY' ; tjh173@yahoo.com; = 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] Front spoiler =20 Mention my name and he=E2=80=99ll probably add a surcharge !! =20 Darryl=E2=80=99s father and mine were brothers who grew up in Ireland. = Both went to war (WWII): my father returned to Ireland while = Darryl=E2=80=99s settled in England. I never knew about my English = cousin until I bought my first TR!! =20 People say they are expensive (and I guess they can be) but all their = stuff is good. Not for the everyday driver, but I have used them = extensively for my two fast-road cars and am happy with what I bought. =20 Andrew =20 Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [6pack] Front spoiler =20 What? No family discount? =20 Nice spoiler. Cooling ducts and everything. =20 Dave=20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- Sent: Sun, Jun 27, 2021 12:45 pm Subject: Re: [6pack] Front spoiler I know Racetorations in the UK sells spoilers like this: =20 http://www.racetorations.co.uk/triumph-c56/tr4-c6/tr4-body-and-exterior-t= rim-c68/racetorations-tr4-6-front-spoiler-c-w-cooling-ducts-p1334 =20 Disclaimer: my cousin, Darryl Uprichard, owns Racetorations. No = financial interest, sadly=E2=80=A6 =20 Andrew Uprichard Jackson, Michigan =20 From: 6pack <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net = Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 12:37 PM Subject: [6pack] Front spoiler =20 Hi everyone, =20 I saw this car come up for sale on Bring A Trailer a while back, and the = front spoiler caught my eye. =20 Modified 1974 Triumph TR6 5-Speed for sale on BaT Auctions - ending June = 4 (Lot #49,079) | Bring a Trailer = =20 =20 If you look at it closely, you'll see it's got a more aggressive profile = than the stock spoiler that Triumph fitted to TR6's from 1973 onwards. = I asked the owner where he got it, but it was already fitted to the car = before he bought it, so he doesn't really know. He commented that he = thinks it came from Rimmer in UK, but looking at their website it just = again looks like the OE style.=20 =20 Anyone know anything about this style of spoiler? I love the look! =20 Regards, Tim Holbrook 1971 TR6 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/dave1massey@cs.com ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01D76BFD.B4CD4B90 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have = their billet aluminum water pump.=C2=A0 Expensive but well worth = it.

 

From: 6pack = <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of = auprichard@uprichard.net
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 2:36 = PM
To: 'DAVID MASSEY' <dave1massey@cs.com>; = tjh173@yahoo.com; 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] = Front spoiler

 

Mention my = name and he=E2=80=99ll probably add a surcharge = !!

 

Darryl=E2=80=99s father and mine were = brothers who grew up in Ireland.  Both went to war (WWII):  my = father returned to Ireland while Darryl=E2=80=99s settled in = England.  I never knew about my English cousin until I bought my = first TR!!

 

People say they are expensive (and I guess = they can be) but all their stuff is good.  Not for the everyday = driver, but I have used them extensively for my two fast-road cars and = am happy with what I bought.

 

Andrew

 

From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> =
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 2:28 PM
To: auprichard@uprichard.net; = tjh173@yahoo.com; 6pack@autox.team.net
Subje= ct: Re: [6pack] Front spoiler

 

Wha= t?  No family discount?

 

Nic= e spoiler.  Cooling ducts and = everything.

 

Dav= e

 

 

---= --Original Message-----
From: auprichard@uprichard.net
= To: 'Timothy Holbrook' <tjh173@yahoo.com>; '6Pack List' = <6pack@autox.team.net>
Sent= : Sun, Jun 27, 2021 12:45 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Front = spoiler

I know Racetorations in the UK sells = spoilers like this:

 

 

Disclaimer:  my cousin, Darryl = Uprichard, owns Racetorations.  No financial interest, = sadly=E2=80=A6

 

Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, Michigan

 

Fro= m: = 6pack <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net= > On Behalf Of Timothy Holbrook
Sent: Sunday, = June 27, 2021 12:37 PM
To: 6Pack List <6pack@autox.team.net>
S= ubject: [6pack] Front = spoiler

&nb= sp;

Hi everyone,

 

I saw this car come up for sale on Bring A Trailer a while = back, and the front spoiler caught my eye.

 

 

If you look at it closely, you'll see it's got a more aggressive = profile than the stock spoiler that Triumph fitted to TR6's from 1973 = onwards.  I asked the owner where he got it, but it was already = fitted to the car before he bought it, so he doesn't really know.  = He commented that he thinks it came from Rimmer in UK, but looking at = their website it just again looks like the OE style. 

 

Anyone know anything about this style of spoiler?  I love the = look!

 

Regards,

Tim Holbrook

1971 TR6

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