From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 09:52:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE7D940439 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 09:52:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9763C403F3; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 09:52:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta005.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r94FneYO024648; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 08:51:13 -0700 Received: by dm0213.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 43ca9d92) id dm0213.523928c3.1f6e5e; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 08:51:13 -0700 Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2013 08:51:08 -0700 From: Larry Mayfield Organization: Mayfield Motorsport User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" , "alpines@autox.team.net" engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-10-04_02:2013-10-04,2013-10-04,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1310040075 Subject: [Alpines] Series 5 Alpine body Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net I have been considering a new body for the Sunbeam. Salt Flats time trials car, a glass one made from a S5 body that is near perfect. The body I have is warped bent and other wise near useless. What could I expect to pay for a body only in good shape, if such a thing exists. Are fiber glass bodies available anywhere? That might be cheaper. mayf ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 10:49:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490DC40443 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 10:49:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B59440413; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 10:46:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004960.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r94Gg61t032583; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 09:45:12 -0700 Received: by dm0207.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 43ca9d92) id dm0207.523928d0.1c82312; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 09:45:11 -0700 Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2013 09:45:04 -0700 From: Larry Mayfield Organization: Mayfield Motorsport User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" , "alpines@autox.team.net" engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-10-04_02:2013-10-04,2013-10-04,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1310040082 Subject: [Alpines] Fast Back Alpines/Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Ok, so how many of the fast back versions of either type were made an sold? Anybody know? Rules for bodies requires that a certain number were produced even if a replica. A fast back replica body would be dang near perfect....if I had data showing how many were made and sold... Just an additional thought... mayf -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 10:50:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E3C40519 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 10:50:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from LUCKMAN.anl.gov (luckman.anl.gov [146.137.81.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B8640413; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 10:50:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BUTKUS.anl.gov ([fe80::a818:5e68:956f:50f9]) by LUCKMAN.anl.gov ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0347.000; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 11:49:13 -0500 From: "Wiencek, Thomas" To: "drmayf@mayfco.com" , "tigers@autox.team.net" , "alpines@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Alpines] Series 5 Alpine body Thread-Index: AQHOwRmWl6RAOkUTIE6jdYwBMY5wbJnkwLbQ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 16:49:13 +0000 References: <524EE3EC.8080301@mayfco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [146.137.81.41] Subject: Re: [Alpines] Series 5 Alpine body Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net There is a nice 427 engined Sunbeam for sale on e-bay for $89,000...... :-) -----Original Message----- From: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:alpines-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Mayfield Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 10:51 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net; alpines@autox.team.net Subject: [Alpines] Series 5 Alpine body I have been considering a new body for the Sunbeam. Salt Flats time trials car, a glass one made from a S5 body that is near perfect. The body I have is warped bent and other wise near useless. What could I expect to pay for a body only in good shape, if such a thing exists. Are fiber glass bodies available anywhere? That might be cheaper. mayf ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/wiencek@anl.gov _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 10:51:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA1340518 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 10:51:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1513F40413; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 10:51:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004960.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r94GnIw7006106; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 09:49:50 -0700 Received: by dm0201.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 43ca9d92) id dm0201.523928e2.1c752e5; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 09:49:50 -0700 Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2013 09:49:43 -0700 From: Larry Mayfield Organization: Mayfield Motorsport User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" , "alpines@autox.team.net" engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-10-04_02:2013-10-04,2013-10-04,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1310040082 Subject: [Alpines] Body Design... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Hmm, more requests... is there some among you who can do computer sketches (like using google sketchup)? Looking for one who can make a 130 inch wheel base car with a swoopy new front nose on it per my specs? Body aft of the windshield would be pure alpine or tiger. Front would resemble an upside down ski boat prow...sorta... anybody do that? With and without a Harrington top... mayf -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 10:56:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889E340515 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 10:56:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from NAGURSKI.anl.gov (nagurski.anl.gov [146.137.81.22]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5762240413; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 10:56:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BUTKUS.anl.gov ([fe80::a818:5e68:956f:50f9]) by NAGURSKI.anl.gov ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0347.000; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 11:54:55 -0500 From: "Wiencek, Thomas" To: "drmayf@mayfco.com" , "tigers@autox.team.net" , "alpines@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Alpines] Fast Back Alpines/Tigers Thread-Index: AQHOwSGPw4z3YVv1iEejtmktFLWutZnkwo/w Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 16:54:54 +0000 References: <524EF090.9000308@mayfco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [146.137.81.41] Subject: Re: [Alpines] Fast Back Alpines/Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net This site says about 5000. http://auto.howstuffworks.com/1969-1970-sunbeam-alpine-gt.htm -----Original Message----- From: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:alpines-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Mayfield Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 11:45 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net; alpines@autox.team.net Subject: [Alpines] Fast Back Alpines/Tigers Ok, so how many of the fast back versions of either type were made an sold? Anybody know? Rules for bodies requires that a certain number were produced even if a replica. A fast back replica body would be dang near perfect....if I had data showing how many were made and sold... Just an additional thought... mayf -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/wiencek@anl.gov _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 16:59:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D7FF4051E for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 16:59:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from smtp-out-02.shaw.ca (smtp-out-02.shaw.ca [64.59.136.138]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4594040431 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 16:58:49 -0600 (MDT) cv=W0/jygPWOP4vNGB1giqMd6hViTlTWopR5z2gXdBWnF4= c=1 sm=1 a=BsDJe9t_M60A:10 a=se1O8eIJ8oAA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=lqAlC/Boz5lvKgGSBOdmkA==:17 a=IF4FuQrWk8VsXLYyfyAA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=JbkuCAfR2ri8uUkG:21 a=1eGR2cw3bdYQTO0B:21 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO G5Computer.local) ([68.145.196.187]) by smtp-out-02.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 04 Oct 2013 16:57:18 -0600 Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2013 16:57:17 -0600 From: Mary and Ron Tebo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: drmayf@mayfco.com References: <524EF090.9000308@mayfco.com> Cc: alpines Subject: Re: [Alpines] Fast Back Alpines/Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Larry Russ Maddock, of "Sunbeam Supreme", might know, if he is still around. I always found him to be a a gold standard on history. Ron Tebo On Friday04/10/13 10:45 AM, Larry Mayfield wrote: > Ok, so how many of the fast back versions of either type were made an > sold? Anybody know? Rules for bodies requires that a certain number > were produced even if a replica. A fast back replica body would be > dang near perfect....if I had data showing how many were made and > sold... Just an additional thought... > > mayf _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 8 03:22:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E45740434 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 03:22:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from n1-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (n1-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.235.138]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83748403F7 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 02:34:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.179] by n1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2013 08:32:33 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.197] by t9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2013 08:32:33 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2013 02:51:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 94382 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Oct 2013 02:51:56 -0000 s=s1024; t=1381200716; bh=RGik3I55fO2Enocnf+fVlcgo7KMAqTtmqkaZozc6QDE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=w62QJUwQRu5rPjMH09leQYuoYi/+TWpOGdRa88enDi7pL/5HJhsyy9UmqFkq4CflHrP2WZ+vNNFL0TwAxY8ShK2pnGYimJdU6YUkcQy+CxKYxb1NTAJuKJoV4pGFtCbH1S8oPi1P7qZjb8oLtHcb/sjpJqd+gY6qg8hS/WOOVPw= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qHxEBpXmWHCPY9gFazEL1Gqb+3paj3UQnDoJgDBoxuxjesXlLQ+5ZQPyyCvM010Du4I7/mNPHVG01VGjF4lzjQpfUJdoDGvIpNmJ9XzCzKqkAHXMwsa89WDB5QDmOs6xJg7ZVk+nG3uvlBy9apTORYz7sD7nnXk8/AiVcbRF4bo=; p2_A6FXJ3ZeHNLQQvB9Xd1n0NnwhRs0L8r9A93oyHuGJwd3AajDvITctfRu_ T8GzeXWLCxdABv6AZf9kcF.WGP_QUoddg.uD5nygiiNpRMS_Ivv4FuUOq8dt yiKLBGPp7fGqGYSfCJSioLnzR_ZqlME0pA8IQyuG8SdbEvnV5CLnoQxQoZ_f lcqTTREGlaX8pLAbedoRe4lk7_M_bkDsiU38rkDLWFBATxdqgXnsm40prdpz 2.udKpg_DSA7CBynrU26TQvDSoM6amWAw2bXwWS7tvtlpNXfUkL.guqFZB9s M8AoAQiYFVmylWIa_ensgBblzxCcXJoAbo39aJAYRg8I625n2PO3_hisAc2A 8niQCXuDrHB0xHIVFe7gAzKdUpgTYaTlnjvXkJLnL7aNV9ta2ZlAWKFmIHRg wRFfxVhN34tluya4OnSlmHUVJ0F7XzRAomB17B5DmvJEhk.YqtPX9GO40wMr 9y_j8icyXoVdmOyS2B4pSu5h7u2YkQCgZlxYMvPrT5vLf66PCMvQn4HUNQRL 5nDDaaar4eLk8t7qbMGOlOEvTs66RFC2SV8BG9kQWJBlJfT8CGjU- Received: from [173.48.171.26] by web161002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 19:51:55 PDT CgoKLS0tLS0gRm9yd2FyZGVkIE1lc3NhZ2UgLS0tLS0KRnJvbTogSmFtZXMgUGlja2FyZCA8Z2Vvd2l6QGhhcmdyYXkuY29tPgpUbzogJ1RpZ2VyIExpc3QnIDx0aWdlcnNAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQ.IApTZW50OiBNb25kYXksIE9jdG9iZXIgNywgMjAxMyA2OjU2IFBNClN1YmplY3Q6IFtUaWdlcnNdIElhbiBTcGVuY2VyCiAKCkRvZXMgYW55b25lIGhhdmUgYSBjdXJyZW50IGUtbWFpbCBhZGRyZXNzIGZvciBJYW4gU3BlbmNlciBvZiBBbHBpbmUgZmFtZT8gCgoKCkppbSBQaWNrYXJkCgpCOTQ3MzI5OAoKQmUBMAEBAQE- References: <020701cec3b0$74a872e0$5df958a0$@com> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 19:51:55 -0700 (PDT) From: snakebit289 To: "alpines@autox.team.net" Subject: [Alpines] Fw: [Tigers] Ian Spencer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: James Pickard To: 'Tiger List' Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 6:56 PM Subject: [Tigers] Ian Spencer Does anyone have a current e-mail address for Ian Spencer of Alpine fame? Jim Pickard B9473298 Beaufort, SC _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/snakebit289@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 12 06:34:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F15B42F40 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 06:34:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from emh06.mail.saunalahti.fi (emh06.mail.saunalahti.fi [62.142.5.116]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABA342F06 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 06:33:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from auriPC (a88-112-83-34.elisa-laajakaista.fi [88.112.83.34]) by emh06.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF6EE69A5E for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 15:33:40 +0300 (EEST) From: "Lauri Lehtinen" To: Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 15:33:39 +0300 Thread-Index: Ac7HR0ciEwX9yRW3RGaFadsWLxFKyg== Content-Language: fi Subject: [Alpines] Colours in engine bay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net In my S4 under bonnet engine is black as are steering parts (steering gear and linkage etc.). I am not sure if steering parts should be black or carnival red as all other steel parts in the engine bay? #auri Lehtinen journalist, engineer +358 400 851988 _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 14 13:06:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2734842F6F for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 13:06:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from emh06.mail.saunalahti.fi (emh06.mail.saunalahti.fi [62.142.5.116]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E3D42A31 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 13:06:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from auriPC (a88-112-83-34.elisa-laajakaista.fi [88.112.83.34]) by emh06.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD6B699E6; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 22:06:28 +0300 (EEST) From: "Lauri Lehtinen" To: "'Sunbeam Alpine'" References: <001801cec747$47902ec0$d6b08c40$@lauri@kolumbus.fi> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 22:06:23 +0300 Thread-Index: Ac7I+WIvIbC2VzizTH6yhg1gHrZGPwAFrGzg Content-Language: fi Cc: alpines@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Alpines] Colours in engine bay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net OK, but this engine is blue, I have heard that whole engines sold as spare parts were blue. At least this 1725 was blue when I got it (from under a tree - it was singing a moody blues). -----Alkuperdinen viesti----- Ldhettdjd: Sunbeam Alpine [mailto:sunbeam.alpine@swipnet.se] Ldhetetty: 14. lokakuuta 2013 19:21 Vastaanottaja: Lauri Lehtinen Aihe: Re: [Alpines] Colours in engine bay Moi, just the body panels are red, most of all other parts are unpainted or black. Janne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lauri Lehtinen" To: Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 2:33 PM Subject: [Alpines] Colours in engine bay > In my S4 under bonnet engine is black as are steering parts (steering gear > and linkage etc.). I am not sure if steering parts should be black or > carnival red as all other steel parts in the engine bay? > > > > #auri Lehtinen > > journalist, engineer > > +358 400 851988 > _______________________________________________ > Alpines@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $17.25 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/sunbeam.alpine@swipnet.se _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 15 12:40:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B71240445 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:40:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f182.google.com (mail-qc0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CFB64042E for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:37:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id n4so6490450qcx.27 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 11:37:24 -0700 (PDT) h=subject:references:from:content-type:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=vTPOJQhVY1SC20eteC4ztbNnUkPQzaXvTJIPsY1q6l8=; b=c9TgSCZv5vd1th4pmG5+BqGmice2dGM4oJgNvE5Ug8I4xVjgrF8sCqNCW3PPogbIb3 3Pj3U4LCK8R5N1O9F7xvMoPJ9gw1qaSL5h0BT7ZhYWhNMghA8FH/NwWuzPLiscueICiO D4OcDoJG+2zQjkrgMyMvA5isay6mcjVjtOS8v2aUxbG7kQhecLVvtFJClsLzRmXQG6Wz IZUG7ciFUKiuSUy5CNCj7yJ7w0mAOSI3fyp2TqgxIzgfZKHDwC+i/GLrprCwuOlUHOxC ZAsIywk3lnSoWEZPfQayMAoicEVq/UPDwaGixQu3+rFShZclf2HxsHfeioZbvRI4iXja RBGQ== a10mr46108734qak.9.1381862243972; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 11:37:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.4] (c-71-57-240-61.hsd1.pa.comcast.net. [71.57.240.61]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id h6sm852564qej.4.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 15 Oct 2013 11:37:23 -0700 (PDT) References: From: Joe McConlogue Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 14:37:22 -0400 To: "alpines@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Alpines] Alpines Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net My engine was blue as well. The serial numbers match so I'm pretty sure it is original. I had Tower paint match the color when I rebuilt it a couple of years ago. Joe McConlogue _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 15 14:57:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8423F42823 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 14:57:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.197]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 586A440442 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 14:56:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from OwnerPC (ool-18b9e4d3.dyn.optonline.net [24.185.228.211]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MUQ00FYWA502XB0@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for alpines@autox.team.net; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 16:55:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 16:55:48 -0400 From: series25 To: alpines@autox.team.net Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac7J1gQkkKPS8fXJRg+0tL3FWnnF9QAEcLoA References: Subject: Re: [Alpines] Alpines Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net To all list members, I am looking for an engine rebuilder on the east coast, as close to New York as possible, for my 1725 that is now in various pieces. It now consists of a clean block that needs to be bored out to .600, a 1725 cracked block that contains the crank and connecting and push rods, cylinder head and all new .6 over pistons and gaskets from Rick. Looking for a reliable builder who knows his way around these engines Any help getting this put together will be greatly appreciated. Phil _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/series25@optonline.net _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 15 22:42:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BC6C43006 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 22:42:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d02.mx.aol.com (omr-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C3A40439 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 18:59:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.134]) by omr-d02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8835270146E89; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 20:51:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.4] (25.72.124.24.cm.sunflower.com [24.124.72.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id E8980E0000C1; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 20:51:21 -0400 (EDT) References: <008601cec9e8$ed5b1c90$c81155b0$@net> From: Paul Scofield Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 19:51:22 -0500 To: series25 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1381884682; bh=GTWG0llu+Rw60adaT48+5EF9OmlUmkAgFwxQ7fjF8LY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=rJfDc1y5TqYdmj9RXC69xKoE+XSSR4nnW8K3j8Yr4JLcvI3KMdo/NgDvcXTYJvXsT oswc3LiDMLmrWzZJTQX0FG1fq5RSGil9rkxp3DTstR5vCMbq5BF9BcmKwQValRSKX1 d3RJB5Fhl58M2BoUJT5egQFre5jCK8G/WA0ijD+o= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d3386525de309755a Cc: "alpines@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Alpines] Alpines Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Any good engine machine shop that has been in business for a long time can handle your rebuild. These engines are like a Briggs & Stratton to these guys. Give them the shop manual for the technical data and they can take it from there. They can take it past factory for you by weighing pistons and rods to very close tolerances, or just run of the mill work. It's up to you. Paul > On Oct 15, 2013, at 3:55 PM, series25 wrote: > > To all list members, > I am looking for an engine rebuilder on the east coast, as close to New York > as possible, for my 1725 that is now in various pieces. It now consists of a > clean block that needs to be bored out to .600, a 1725 cracked block that > contains the crank and connecting and push rods, cylinder head and all new > .6 over pistons and gaskets from Rick. Looking for a reliable builder who > knows his way around these engines Any help getting this put together will > be greatly appreciated. > > Phil > _______________________________________________ > Alpines@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $17.25 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/series25@optonline.net > _______________________________________________ > Alpines@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $17.25 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/canisdog@aol.com _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 15 23:57:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DBDA4051D for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 23:57:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from emh03.mail.saunalahti.fi (emh03.mail.saunalahti.fi [62.142.5.109]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37B440451 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 23:55:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from auriPC (a88-112-83-34.elisa-laajakaista.fi [88.112.83.34]) by emh03.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id C330218878D; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 08:30:43 +0300 (EEST) From: "Lauri Lehtinen" To: "'Paul Scofield'" , "'series25'" References: <008601cec9e8$ed5b1c90$c81155b0$@net> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 08:30:41 +0300 Thread-Index: Ac7KKiiqinkc9sJ4QQe2tjYtksgZxwABkz9Q Content-Language: fi Cc: alpines@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Alpines] Alpines Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net But the question is: Where did you get those .60 pistons? For me it seems that nowadays biggest overbore available is .30?? I have a set of .60 pistons (without rings) in my garage, but I haven't seen for sale anymore. -----Alkuperdinen viesti----- Ldhettdjd: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:alpines-bounces@autox.team.net] Puolesta Paul Scofield Ldhetetty: 16. lokakuuta 2013 3:51 Vastaanottaja: series25 Kopio: alpines@autox.team.net Aihe: Re: [Alpines] Alpines Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24 Any good engine machine shop that has been in business for a long time can handle your rebuild. These engines are like a Briggs & Stratton to these guys. Give them the shop manual for the technical data and they can take it from there. They can take it past factory for you by weighing pistons and rods to very close tolerances, or just run of the mill work. It's up to you. Paul > On Oct 15, 2013, at 3:55 PM, series25 wrote: > > To all list members, > I am looking for an engine rebuilder on the east coast, as close to > New York > as possible, for my 1725 that is now in various pieces. It now > consists of a > clean block that needs to be bored out to .600, a 1725 cracked block > that contains the crank and connecting and push rods, cylinder head > and all new > .6 over pistons and gaskets from Rick. Looking for a reliable builder > who knows his way around these engines Any help getting this put > together will be greatly appreciated. > > Phil > _______________________________________________ > Alpines@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $17.25 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/series25@optonline.net > _______________________________________________ > Alpines@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $17.25 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/canisdog@aol.com _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/lehtinen.lauri@kolumbus.fi _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 16 22:40:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31F942F12 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 22:40:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B46274054C for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 22:40:19 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1381984797; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=To:Cc:Date:Subject:Content-Type:From:Message-Id; b=m4geBgixQm1IYkXHvwPmhK/3UnVUoXFl2n8EylSD0VPRZFMAxKVhX3IdCBFSl8vg7 +cyVJm5hbHB0UrTN61i6gy+HEZNka2qE9QN96NOFnh7qfYvhY3YqRWd6+1/up4z1sj xVIPkZUgdWFR2croTXFcdR/8FaKn+x6YjoAb3kAg= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (mailpop15.vgs.untd.com [10.181.45.35]) by smtpout02.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABKF84SUA28SPZS for (sender ); Wed, 16 Oct 2013 21:39:46 -0700 (PDT) To: canisdog@aol.com Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 21:38:23 -0800 From: Cc: alpines@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Alpines] Alpines Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net I would disagree about having a standard machine shop "rebuild" an Alpine engine. I would bet few ever see old engines these days. Old cars are WAY less than 1% of the cars out there. And fewer yet see Alpine engines. Now here is the main part, All Alpine engines are in excess of 35 years old. Most have issues with cooling system corrosion. And other issues. MOST machine shops MAY do a descent job of what THEY do and that is the "machine work" An Alpine engine is NOT a Briggs and Stratton. Anyone who treats it as such will likely send their Alpine down the path of the majority of those that are gone. Good luck. DW On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 19:51:22 -0500 Paul Scofield writes: > Any good engine machine shop that has been in business for a long > time can > handle your rebuild. These engines are like a Briggs & Stratton to > these > guys. Give them the shop manual for the technical data and they can > take it > from there. They can take it past factory for you by weighing > pistons and > rods to very close tolerances, or just run of the mill work. It's > up to you. > > Paul > > ____________________________________________________________ Do THIS before eating carbs (every time) 1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar & decrease fat storage http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/525f6a13d3fc6a1237ccst02vuc _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 17 04:53:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F3442F21 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 04:53:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m07.mx.aol.com (omr-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE0242EF7 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 04:52:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.142]) by omr-m07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id AC1DD70035456; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 06:52:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mja001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mja001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.103.1]) by mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id CB135E000085; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 06:52:33 -0400 (EDT) References: To: spmdr@juno.com Received: from 24.124.72.25 by webmail-m101.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.155) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 17 Oct 2013 06:52:33 -0400 From: canisdog@aol.com Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 06:52:33 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1382007154; bh=dtVxtqjVqnAwDP5ZAsqX4qRk9usbdd52L2ikRFxHFyg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ixL79z523InWVdaHnHaQdN3GA6YayDOqW2/AlT0h6d9yhXXI0XaFaK8seT4ldgHPm DEQpNNUfI1B7H/T/i8WcA7fiMEyydvUxuNYmM2ECEVxdOjyQjZ6DhqnnmLYgyCmwda 0krJN6P9YHsRANE9knUmeJxLtvdNGyBBC5PTNmrQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338e525fc1713ba1 Cc: alpines@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Alpines] Alpines Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net You are right, Briggs and Stratton was a bad term. These are simple "Tractor Engines" and way less technical than larger block or new technology. ANy good machine shop can handle it. -----Original Message----- From: spmdr To: canisdog Cc: alpines Sent: Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:39 pm Subject: Re: [Alpines] Alpines Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24 I would disagree about having a standard machine shop "rebuild" an Alpine engine. I would bet few ever see old engines these days. Old cars are WAY less than 1% of the cars out there. And fewer yet see Alpine engines. Now here is the main part, All Alpine engines are in excess of 35 years old. Most have issues with cooling system corrosion. And other issues. MOST machine shops MAY do a descent job of what THEY do and that is the "machine work" An Alpine engine is NOT a Briggs and Stratton. Anyone who treats it as such will likely send their Alpine down the path of the majority of those that are gone. Good luck. DW On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 19:51:22 -0500 Paul Scofield writes: > Any good engine machine shop that has been in business for a long > time can > handle your rebuild. These engines are like a Briggs & Stratton to > these > guys. Give them the shop manual for the technical data and they can > take it > from there. They can take it past factory for you by weighing > pistons and > rods to very close tolerances, or just run of the mill work. It's > up to you. > > Paul > > ____________________________________________________________ Do THIS before eating carbs (every time) 1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar & decrease fat storage http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/525f6a13ce416a1237cbst02vuc _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 17 06:13:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C39042F1A for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 06:13:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from mta04.eastlink.ca (mta04.eastlink.ca [24.224.136.10]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1FA7403F8 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 06:13:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cmgw04.eastlink.ca ([71.7.199.170]) by mta04.eastlink.ca (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-21.01 64bit (built Feb 16 2011)) with ESMTP id <0MUT008PPAV11QI0@mta04.eastlink.ca> for alpines@autox.team.net; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 09:13:21 -0300 (ADT) Received: from Bob-Envy.accesswave.ca ([96.30.169.233]) by cmgw04.eastlink.ca with id eCDU1m00152UxQo01CDU1Q; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 09:13:28 -0300 a=Xnr3NcJ1dhaY+ImAS20EfQ==:117 a=Xnr3NcJ1dhaY+ImAS20EfQ==:17 a=iB2FAqK5JS0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=OmK4A22zrdkA:10 a=FgaAvrF-AAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=NoAKp6exAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=IbNbCWI4AAAA:8 a=b3CAv9UhbbPjOZvO0FUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=MMMPyTjtC50A:10 a=1GggBx1-LuQA:10 a=JL0VA57ilhwA:10 a=16OAqAEnc9cA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=B0cvAcWxpcAA:10 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 09:08:10 -0300 To: canisdog@aol.com, spmdr@juno.com From: Robert Hamilton References: <8D0993E1E812F44-25F8-EE5@webmail-m101.sysops.aol.com> Cc: alpines@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Alpines] Alpines Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Hi again. Sorry, Brit Bits isn't in Maine but very close to Maine in Rye, N.H. Web page: http://www.britbits.com/ Bob At 07:52 AM 2013-10-17, canisdog@aol.com wrote: > You are right, Briggs and Stratton was a bad term. These are > simple "Tractor >Engines" and >way less technical than larger block or new technology. ANy good machine shop >can handle it. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: spmdr >To: canisdog >Cc: alpines >Sent: Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:39 pm >Subject: Re: [Alpines] Alpines Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24 > > >I would disagree about having a standard machine shop "rebuild" an Alpine >engine. > >I would bet few ever see old engines these days. > >Old cars are WAY less than 1% of the cars out there. > >And fewer yet see Alpine engines. > >Now here is the main part, All Alpine engines are in excess of 35 years >old. > >Most have issues with cooling system corrosion. > >And other issues. > >MOST machine shops MAY do a descent job of what THEY do and that is the >"machine work" > >An Alpine engine is NOT a Briggs and Stratton. > >Anyone who treats it as such will likely send their Alpine down the path >of the majority of those that are gone. > >Good luck. > >DW > >On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 19:51:22 -0500 Paul Scofield >writes: > > Any good engine machine shop that has been in business for a long > > time can > > handle your rebuild. These engines are like a Briggs & Stratton to > > these > > guys. Give them the shop manual for the technical data and they can > > take it > > from there. They can take it past factory for you by weighing > > pistons and > > rods to very close tolerances, or just run of the mill work. It's > > up to you. > > > > Paul > > > > > >____________________________________________________________ >Do THIS before eating carbs (every time) >1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar & decrease fat storage >http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/525f6a13ce416a1237cbst02vuc >_______________________________________________ >Alpines@autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $17.25 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/hamilton@accesswave.ca ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Robert A.C. Hamilton, P.O. Box 5033, Waverley, Nova Scotia, B2R 1S2 E-Mail: hamilton@accesswave.ca Tel: 902-861-3277 Cell: (902) 456-6542 Visit my Zenfolio Gallery ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 17 06:38:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E56FC42F0C for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 06:38:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.197]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C9142F01 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 06:38:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ool-18bb6118.dyn.optonline.net [24.187.97.24]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MUT00KPCCFHF3L0@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for alpines@autox.team.net; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 08:38:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 08:38:11 -0400 From: Mototron To: alpines@autox.team.net References: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0.1 Subject: Re: [Alpines] Alpines Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Phil Give me a call or stop by My shop Can Build you a engine ,to any Degree of performance or totally stock if you like Rocco Mototron Vintage Sports Car Service Southampton NY 631 379 7789 mototron@optonline.net My Sunbeam Alpine at NJMP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqogBXeOH1c On 10/17/2013 1:38 AM, spmdr@juno.com wrote: > I would disagree about having a standard machine shop "rebuild" an Alpine > engine. > > I would bet few ever see old engines these days. > > Old cars are WAY less than 1% of the cars out there. > > And fewer yet see Alpine engines. > > Now here is the main part, All Alpine engines are in excess of 35 years > old. > > Most have issues with cooling system corrosion. > > And other issues. > > MOST machine shops MAY do a descent job of what THEY do and that is the > "machine work" > > An Alpine engine is NOT a Briggs and Stratton. > > Anyone who treats it as such will likely send their Alpine down the path > of the majority of those that are gone. > > Good luck. > > DW > > On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 19:51:22 -0500 Paul Scofield > writes: >> Any good engine machine shop that has been in business for a long >> time can >> handle your rebuild. These engines are like a Briggs & Stratton to >> these >> guys. Give them the shop manual for the technical data and they can >> take it >> from there. They can take it past factory for you by weighing >> pistons and >> rods to very close tolerances, or just run of the mill work. It's >> up to you. >> >> Paul >> >> > ____________________________________________________________ > Do THIS before eating carbs (every time) > 1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar & decrease fat storage > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/525f6a13d3fc6a1237ccst02vuc > _______________________________________________ > Alpines@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $17.25 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/mototron@optonline.net _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 17 07:39:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4E542F41 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 07:39:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: alpines@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m04.mx.aol.com (omr-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C08E42F07 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 07:39:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.67]) by omr-m04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E242370001D4C; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 09:38:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.224.105.172] (211.sub-174-229-70.myvzw.com [174.229.70.211]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 48486E0000B5; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 09:38:56 -0400 (EDT) References: <525FDA33.30209@optonline.net> From: Paul N Scofield Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 08:38:46 -0500 To: Mototron x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1382017136; bh=Fpu+c6gWinyMFzXv7VzIEtfZWsurWA25GpOkiHcM/j8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=OvFdBJs5tJD9tnYdl6+TmpAOznq3dQrH7A2NJI1uEI/NIQiSmVxLjUOO87ZXL47Kg 89WixRmIdA4LqbsuImasBlf2fueaYB6xeuQ75Oq2nIaXoU+mFBjtBma5lHtQ72Qf+A 9hoAkaBtL5UnZ3vD7ryHJbX69NnJzwVGX/EoPN8M= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2943525fe8707d26 Cc: "alpines@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Alpines] Alpines Digest, Vol 7, Issue 24 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: alpines-bounces@autox.team.net Awesome video Rocco! Posting on my FB page! Paul Scofield Kansas "Heartland of America" > On Oct 17, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Mototron wrote: > > Phil > Give me a call or stop by My shop > Can Build you a engine ,to any Degree of performance > or totally stock if you like > Rocco > Mototron Vintage Sports Car Service > Southampton NY > 631 379 7789 > mototron@optonline.net > > My Sunbeam Alpine at NJMP > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqogBXeOH1c > >> On 10/17/2013 1:38 AM, spmdr@juno.com wrote: >> I would disagree about having a standard machine shop "rebuild" an Alpine >> engine. >> >> I would bet few ever see old engines these days. >> >> Old cars are WAY less than 1% of the cars out there. >> >> And fewer yet see Alpine engines. >> >> Now here is the main part, All Alpine engines are in excess of 35 years >> old. >> >> Most have issues with cooling system corrosion. >> >> And other issues. >> >> MOST machine shops MAY do a descent job of what THEY do and that is the >> "machine work" >> >> An Alpine engine is NOT a Briggs and Stratton. >> >> Anyone who treats it as such will likely send their Alpine down the path >> of the majority of those that are gone. >> >> Good luck. >> >> DW >> >> On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 19:51:22 -0500 Paul Scofield >> writes: >>> Any good engine machine shop that has been in business for a long >>> time can >>> handle your rebuild. These engines are like a Briggs & Stratton to >>> these >>> guys. Give them the shop manual for the technical data and they can >>> take it >>> from there. They can take it past factory for you by weighing >>> pistons and >>> rods to very close tolerances, or just run of the mill work. It's >>> up to you. >>> >>> Paul >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Do THIS before eating carbs (every time) >> 1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar & decrease fat storage >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/525f6a13d3fc6a1237ccst02vuc >> _______________________________________________ >> Alpines@autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $17.25 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/mototron@optonline.net > _______________________________________________ > Alpines@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $17.25 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/canisdog@aol.com _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive