Very cool information. Thanks = Floyd

From:= = bmcu-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:bmcu-bounces@autox.team.net] On = Behalf Of Floyd Inman
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 9:08 = AM
To: BMCU, Team
Subject: [Bmcu] Fw: Penetrating = Oils]

<= /o:p>

Subject: = Penetrating Oils

<= div>

Interesting!= Even if you're not mechanically inclined, this might be = worth

noting.

Th= is story came to me from one of the guy's in the EAA club = Interesting !!

"Machinist's Workshop" recently = published information on various penetrating
oils. The magazine = reports they tested these products for "break = out
"torque" on rusted nuts and bolts. A subjective test = was made of popular
penetrating oils, with the unit of merit being = the torque required to
remove the nut from a = "scientifically rusted" bolt.
Average torque load to = loosen nut:
No Oil used ........................516 foot = pounds
WD-40 ..................... ........238 foot pounds
PB = Blaster .........................214 foot pounds
Liquid Wrench = ......................127 foot pounds
Kano Kroil = .........................106 foot pounds
ATF/Acetone = mix...................... 53 foot pounds

The ATF/Acetone mix is a = "home brew" mix of 50/50 automatic transmission
fluid and = acetone. Note this "home brew" released bolts better than = any
commercial product in this one particular test.
Our local = machinist group mixed up a batch, and we all now use it with
equally = good results. Note also that Liquid Wrench is almost as good as
Kroil = for 20% of the price.
ATF/Acetone mix is best, but you can also use = ATF and lacquer thinner in a
50/50 mix. ATF =3D Any type of = Automatic Transmission = Fluid
&nbs= p; = ; This version of the story was in = one
= of the Military Vehicle Club = newsletters:

&= nbsp;

<= p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'> = &= nbsp; =

&= nbsp;

<= br>

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Not included are the to= rque specs for British car nuts and bolts including that point at which the= head strips or the bolt breaks resulting in the inevitable knuckle injury, at which point an application of 50% betadine, 30% alcohol= and 20% hydrogen peroxide seems to work well.

<= /p>

Subject: = Penetrating Oils

Interesting! Even if you're not me= chanically inclined, this might be worth

noting.

This story came to me from one of the guy's in the EAA club Interesti= ng !!

"Machinist's Workshop" recently published information on various = penetrating
oils. The magazine reports they tested these products for "break out "torque" on rusted nuts and bolts. A subjective test was made of = popular
penetrating oils, with the unit of merit being the torque required to=
remove the nut from a "scientifically rusted" bolt.
Average torque load to loosen nut:
No Oil used ........................516 foot pounds
WD-40 ..................... ........238 foot pounds
PB Blaster .........................214 foot pounds
Liquid Wrench ......................127 foot pounds
Kano Kroil .........................106 foot pounds
ATF/Acetone mix...................... 53 foot pounds

The ATF/Acetone mix is a "home brew" mix of 50/50 automatic trans= mission
fluid and acetone. Note this "home brew" released bolts better th= an any
commercial product in this one particular test.
Our local machinist group mixed up a batch, and we all now use it with
equally good results. Note also that Liquid Wrench is almost as good as
Kroil for 20% of the price.
ATF/Acetone mix is best, but you can also use ATF and lacquer thinner in a<= br> 50/50 mix. ATF =3D Any type of Automatic Transmission Fluid
&nb= sp; This versio= n of the story was in one
&nb= sp; of the Military Vehicle Club newsletters:=

&nb= sp; =

, "'Floyd Inman'" , "'BMCU, Team'" Date: Monday, December 17, 2012, 10:27 AM Not included are the torque specs for British car nuts and bolts including = that point at which the head strips or the bolt breaks resulting in the ine= vitable knuckle injury, at which point an application of 50% betadine, 30% = alcohol and 20% hydrogen peroxide seems to work well.=20 =A0 =A0 =A0 Subject:=A0 Penetrating Oils =A0Interesting!=A0 Even if you're not mechanically inclined, this might be = worth noting. This story came to me from one of the guy's in the EAA club=A0 Interesting = !! "Machinist's Workshop" recently published information on various penetratin= g oils. The magazine reports they tested these products for "break out "torque" on rusted nuts and bolts. A subjective test was made of popular penetrating oils, with the unit of merit being the torque=A0 required to remove the nut from a "scientifically rusted"=A0 bolt. Average torque load to loosen nut: No Oil used ........................516 foot pounds WD-40 ..................... ........238 foot pounds PB Blaster .........................214 foot pounds Liquid Wrench ......................127 foot pounds Kano Kroil .........................106 foot pounds ATF/Acetone mix...................... 53 foot pounds The ATF/Acetone mix is a "home brew" mix of 50/50 automatic transmission fluid and acetone. Note this "home brew" released bolts better than any commercial product in this one particular test. Our local machinist group mixed up a batch, and we all now use it with equally good results. Note also that Liquid Wrench is almost as good as Kroil for 20% of the price. ATF/Acetone mix is best, but you can also use ATF and lacquer thinner in a 50/50 mix.=A0 ATF =3D Any type of Automatic Transmission Fluid =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 This = version of the story was in one =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 of the Military Vehi= cle Club newsletters: =A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20 =A0 =A0 -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Bmcu@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive hoo.com ---822996273-1350438344-1355768058=:25940 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
An application (systemically) of ethanol= and Boddington's seems to work even better for

me if that happens.

--- On Mon, 12/17/12, Ron Christensen <ron.christensen@wsapr.com> wrote:

From: Ron Christensen <ron.christensen@wsapr.c= om>
Subject: Re: [Bmcu] Fw: Penetrating Oils]
To: "Kurt Draper" &l= t;kdraper@legacymill.com>, "'Floyd Inman'" <floyd_inman@msn.com>, = "'BMCU, Team'" <bmcu@autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, December 17, 20= 12, 10:27 AM

Not included are the torque specs for British car nuts and bolts i= ncluding that point at which the head strips or the bolt breaks resulting i= n the inevitable knuckle injury, at which point an application of 50% betad= ine, 30% alcohol and 20% hydrogen peroxide seems to work well. <= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 18pt">

Subject: Penetrating Oils

Interes= ting! Even if you're not mechanically inclined, this might be worth

noting.
This story came to me from one of the guy's in the EAA club Interes= ting !!

"Machinist's Workshop" recently published information on var= ious penetrating
oils. The magazine reports they tested these products f= or "break out
"torque" on rusted nuts and bolts. A subjective test was m= ade of popular
penetrating oils, with the unit of merit being the torque= required to
remove the nut from a "scientifically rusted" b= olt.
Average torque load to loosen nut:
No Oil used .................= .......516 foot pounds
WD-40 ..................... ........238 foot poun= ds
PB Blaster .........................214 foot pounds
Liquid Wrench = ......................127 foot pounds
Kano Kroil .......................= ..106 foot pounds
ATF/Acetone mix...................... 53 foot pounds
The ATF/Acetone mix is a "home brew" mix of 50/50 automatic transmission
fluid and acetone. Note this "home brew" released bolts be= tter than any
commercial product in this one particular test.
Our loc= al machinist group mixed up a batch, and we all now use it with
equally = good results. Note also that Liquid Wrench is almost as good as
Kroil fo= r 20% of the price.
ATF/Acetone mix is best, but you can also use ATF an= d lacquer thinner in a
50/50 mix. ATF =3D Any type of Automatic Tr= ansmission Fluid
         &= nbsp;           &nbs= p; This version of the story was in one
    &n= bsp;            = ; of the Military Vehicle Club newsletters:
<= /DIV>

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