From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 1 07:18:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD722D0712 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 07:18:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm38.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm38.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C931F2D02EF for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 06:21:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.141] by nm38.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2012 12:23:01 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.118] by tm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2012 12:23:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1023.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2012 12:23:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 97695 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Nov 2012 12:23:01 -0000 s=s1024; t=1351772581; bh=RGpH+f8DG9AVmWXUR0b8coyAgvAXQQK/FKY6Sg6RS9Q=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vtU4aiWtwfoQCPnDPa7GEb5B+EnI+Xe0rb5/n9niOhrqqt5ORetZZB5v9VQL9y5mHPE5bceC1S5+eG03YBLBlNalsFLIPZn6DqQGvo3XpBhcOSJE5gJ44NJurhqGNzs6pX0ZHvQ1lmNZ4F/KkzFkEohqOHpb3DkbbH+kemaiXm4= s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eTD7zLVXn5QY6uAtrsmZ6uEklkyFFwe7yPHFvFs2uqtLwUX32W/ibYmFjcaUv7/gI6L+c6bGxUAbEi52ltrlDjneElWhNT5OYDlacs+7cZf+wAaniGCwrSdP1Dxc0/RQDkP9qaSSjPuhZG2QQFpdyvznfq6N57t8vrpCF87Y8Bw=; eDtKCVu.EchUljbc62YloCzdboGFZMD_rkJRNmFmboUB4_h6MgWuMNQ.ryG8 loRsR7jIxN0iHyDncLyHCfVLQLjMB6uqdj2PRXP8su9fUff3PDbvAzOHcdAh KvTk03U57WGAlGo0lE4.K7grBNNQeAq5tuPibAr6qtsBk42g0xuKhqfhrnCO au3sR26J6QzUYhPCat02wt9yUtRJL5yGQbLFQ.d4abpRgDZM0cSHJ3VnpbMq QvzM_9rJ21SGGjGawHOl1EK_JcvNAjpysGd3w09pV1jDhMb1H1nyhIvihKy4 GbHegzelJSWX35C2_v1ejc52BuFS_p7nyvpVuMbOR9QwoV933ThrkX_Ufbjr JGLbwQOj77SX8WYwq.CtyRGLGSUFfrWfQ5laWCXVhQ5oEx9.jFsxYCllC9eU 5IlOhwy7QrdTvXxRh9PkT2AZ1jmH8YV8J.EsO8bgIOInOgJ3AvLF._tJgdZw oLOyaw9y4NpA7QNiyh37S1s1i7trrKbn291vLEeNeY0iOK_DtzuR9cxv59vW .PwAneNthVLFNqizOHA0mBL__F1KZxmBESOrb_qTJrGH9D8Smhy2yfS0cgZi VHwE.lQ.sF9hVFyxxaap68nAv3u_B9XtXprFjC46qTmxMEFldnS10lNSQ2wm a4byCvOGUqKs2XrHU28CIMH1ARplQFgkPSbi9h660FFA8OBnR4XpbpID6m2J QMW71yGD0Oj3R4SXK614N9EoGt_cbbNDgJv2y2kFPMxrnCKYKRmlBOZD2oMB 4Tw-- Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web181405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 05:23:01 PDT VGhhbmtzIFRvbSEgSGUgd2FzIHF1aXRlIGEgbWFuLiBJIHRob3VnaHQgaGUgd2FzIHdpdGggdGhlIEN1bm5pbmdoYW0gdGVhbSBpbiAiNTU7IGludGVyZXN0aW5nIHRvIHNlZSBoZSB3YXMgcGFpcmVkIHdpdGggTGV2ZWlnaCBpbiB0aGUgQS9IIHdoaWNoICJjYXVzZWQiIHRoZSBjcmFzaC4gUGhpbCBXYWxsdGVycyAoQUtBIFRlZCBUYXBwZXQ7IEknbSBzaG93aW5nIG15IHJvb3RzIDpPKSkgd2FzIHdpdGggQ3VubmluZ2hhbSwgYW5kIHJlZnVzZWQgdG8gZXZlciByYWNlIGFnYWluIGFmdGVyIHRoZSAnNTUgTGUBMAEBAQE- Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:23:01 -0700 (PDT) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: Tom Householder , FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] John Fitch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Tom! He was quite a man. I thought he was with the Cunningham team in "55; interesting to see he was paired with Leveigh in the A/H which "caused" the crash. Phil Wallters (AKA Ted Tappet; I'm showing my roots :O)) was with Cunningham, and refused to ever race again after the '55 LeMans. As a side note...I believe Walters had also been a P-51 pilot over Germany. Birds of a feather. -Ed- --- On Wed, 10/31/12, Tom Householder wrote: From: Tom Householder Subject: Re: [Fot] John Fitch To: "EDWARD BARNARD" Date: Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 10:37 PM FYI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Fitch_(racing_driver) On Oct 31, 2012, at 10:54 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > The FOT has been very quiet with many of its members at the VTR Nationals in Galveston Texas. For those who may not have heard, John Fitch passed away this morning. > With his passing goes a great fighter pilot, sports car driver, Indy car driver, and a member of the Cunningham team at LeMans with Phil Walters during the big crash in '55. > RIP > -Ed- > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trhouse@columbus.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 1 07:19:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75302D087C for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 07:19:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm8.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm8.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1731D2D02EF for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 06:29:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.91.65] by nm8.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2012 12:30:17 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.101] by tm5.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2012 12:30:16 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1006.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2012 12:30:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 26445 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Nov 2012 12:30:16 -0000 s=s1024; t=1351773016; bh=BHrsGk+BlV1zXi15wjetqygsgfHTo7CylLAzWI5nmao=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SKD5QAbx9F7cAcC4kL4JwNsLadR9WaNCi9Q4MJsSzDNrj7DvqeleztsEUNj5Nd4JnR2ja0mQxOgJhj+t/jIn5Wjq26s8i6KkBHGAjqIQpApeAF8+evHt3XSMa0m6k4h/3D3mgyTGEO34PSowQBpaMcQGJT8xtcWH/6mT1fT95L4= s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OMkSe/W9sJia0p4lwa6JPjj4jJth/ADiYGm50uRnxPLOqdQ0ADO9EPw1MZrQw0RrcX/8eJ70HmI7eKzVdB2TMuKIZhEkl/7jWhYmtE5/LGrXxYkUtJM7t/dL+L+EadPfkSJZeG0/1DgpQ79iG9OM1mK9CV2fyx8bBmWTuomkTLw=; TUYw782OXXvOSy_7JIT1cbUu3EyWF0u214hnVG2aNb4YqL4_nWukZg8roxwW xAOWI3B24o4YTQcKO4Ysb1tM9e1E2i666vfUtOwNQWcdpXSrzjC.FqjNqnXk 4t8_rIGaEMGEUQHb3Ctcbwse.16ja26XFLVsEi3Wmfa46ZDuysD0efE4tmMH DHHYJVUJsebz.CxqyK2haE_xDl44Utsx7CRflo4_.mvUm1kgx8ffETyOELO6 RniyqKRjtELtwKOsBCNtaE5_r09FnAWPaLy1GlI_kF_VgT8hMKgvCvl.oOa2 UUmoT7o5FfwEWqOzhCKUaSCQTj4iEF6gJJf2rotc3U8lS5Sdy63YbvLpkTbc .UHUfUqESiXOceAkJjCRL.vzAAGsVRw9lF4AlBQHHsaDB85teMxVDu8VqHhy cnPvbGPTQ7jhbwYasmdEvURlxQttYD4mX7Bzq9vCMUKZL1z4rC_uApp3oK5X TBTjQ7YS2GJbqK3HWexhhxnFP.W86QtAqrcZdStJnqjj5s4onjPvUJ354Klh IG7cXzBv.ADRNZtJYqjLUjr3XSImugxW12CKmuUieXRZIt6QsktY3yCTiV.B kw0u83v9Snw49h1nGo41JIe9WOarE0E8jq_cxDQzM2hmF90G1xbS0LTd_8rx .m0LY64c5NbUmYV.OGODIWYCusUtGLJcRLhSzJ8k- Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web181406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 05:30:16 PDT SGVhZCBTb3V0aCBKYXNvbiEgV2UsIENWQVIgaGF2ZSBhIHJhY2UgdGhlIHdlZWtlbmQgYXQgVFdTLiBJIGJlbGVpdmUgdGhlcmUgaXMgYW5vdGhlciBncm91cCBydW5uaW5nIGluIFNhdmFubmFoIHRoaXMgd2Vla2VuZCB0b28uIEknbSBzdXJlIGV2ZW4gdmFtcGlyZXMgbWlncmF0ZS4NCi1FZC0NCg0KLS0tIE9uIFdlZCwgMTAvMzEvMTIsIGphc29uQG11bHRpdmludGFnZS5jb20gPGphc29uQG11bHRpdmludGFnZS5jb20.IHdyb3RlOg0KDQoNCkZyb206IGphc29uQG11bHRpdmludGFnZS5jb20gPGphc29uQG0BMAEBAQE- Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:30:16 -0700 (PDT) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: triumph friends , jason@multivintage.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Friendly Hauntings From: FGR. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Head South Jason! We, CVAR have a race the weekend at TWS. I beleive there is another group running in Savannah this weekend too. I'm sure even vampires migrate. -Ed- --- On Wed, 10/31/12, jason@multivintage.com wrote: From: jason@multivintage.com Subject: [Fot] Friendly Hauntings From: FGR. To: "triumph friends" Date: Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 10:36 PM An eerie web forms about now on our cars here in the Midwest. Drained of their fluid and void of their blood. Like Vampires, tonight; these Triumphs hunger for lube. A long sleep (perhaps restless) awaits the cold steel and silent horse power of my poor unheated-garage kept mechanical demon. Killing it... on Halloween night, I drain the fluid from my beloved GT6. Surely this cold evening, all hallow's eve, might it find a source of life, to get through the long cold wInter? Happy Halloween. FRIENDLY GHOST RACING Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 1 07:19:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1E32D099E for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 07:19:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm36-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm36-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.238.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BECDC2D0332 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 06:40:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.149] by nm36.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2012 12:41:10 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.244] by tm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2012 12:41:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1053.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2012 12:41:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 48505 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Nov 2012 12:41:10 -0000 s=s1024; t=1351773670; bh=rlrWADOPs+aV2uOmFLDlNx+PPcES2knHvPKM5FLbKrE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lakCsi9z4E6c0MfgDMMDYW9CcANExZXY2V3sWFDmQUzpUb6bxvwKdeSh7614K8Zd6eqZTB0bzFvjYrfwld7keHU2mTNhS8lqF1Q8Sn6ffIkN15VSjNUpe7p0aaeo0xW7VwrRweqRbKS3XRFDLxk6Ih7j6PtuE9cgpAGKY7A6bLY= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=iduf/y8IjePDp/J4o3r4v+c6vkaemG74cVD7ru0dD9nh4Idt+Eu43SAq+B1XUToBifo+k1Nu5G7puMSecIZWDczxKWQ6r9fbSKxTGMbV7f4Gws29xmiyz6zKviwKsDffndL2w88gloaXHeC+Vpo2PWh/fDYznAy8hvcLV4MNd1U=; tafCI0bIztGE_wBNs4YGECG19FSY0iyJNprCMElJSpk_cXTRb2_CVD8YQQ2a sWd5n1dMfQ1zyBw7eSOGr8.luRsx7CibMdyxrY2a7xZOphyobTM5oojiPQlB xMunyrjuZ5bC7xvkcCWoDH.dGeLusrA_3c_x9ypXL2ER__DSFrIbzb6FMGxq .57DvoU0anC74LPzG7xEYqE5bJ43nARHbteG45CbVL5pI.63sAttPof632z9 kdvdWCt3wj9XQRCc.tB16.n8lO1fgAqaM8aNUDJL.eaJBhK_p6CveA.kcDja i1Z_aRvgZqaCJtED2kqeHc9ExL2mrtK6LWQSYD930_Yrkngy4hsSD13.0erv KEy_OZgLcUtIMiFUUkHSn5fIQlftWqOUgV9UfBC8igISilGKuCoDHohszFOu hjsll5KcaUfYG5zGBC87UpxsBMN_1Q2RpRNXD4NE9RinQoaavMN3PtZbPp8G pdCFr5j3gPVccH6kaqiXlUqNjIzLbDGPd5JSJXAkIt2I- Received: from [108.100.243.44] by web162502.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 05:41:10 PDT wqAgwqAgwqBJIGhhZCB0aGUgb3Bwb3J0dW5pdHkgdG8gbWVldCBKb2huIEZpdGNoIGF0IEVsa2hhcnQgTGFrZSBhIGZldyB5ZWFycyBhZ28uIFdoYXQgcGxlYXNhbnQgcGVyc29uIHRvIHRhbGsgdG8uIEhlIHNpZ25lZCBteSBBdWcuIEVsa2hhcnQgTGFrZSDCoHJvYWQgcmFjZSBwcm9ncmFtLHdoaWNoIGhlIHdvbgp0aGUgYmlnIGJvcmUgY2xhc3MgaW4gYSBDdW5uaW5naGFtLiBUaGUgcmFjaW5nIGNvbW11bml0eSBoYXMgbG9zdCBhIHRydWUgaGVyby4gTXkgdGhvdWdodHMgYW5kIHByYXlzIGdvIG91dCB0byABMAEBAQE- References: <1351738456.92490.YahooMailClassic@web181401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:41:10 -0700 (PDT) From: John Wagner To: EDWARD BARNARD Cc: "Fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] John Fitch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I had the opportunity to meet John Fitch at Elkhart Lake a few years ago. What pleasant person to talk to. He signed my Aug. Elkhart Lake road race program,which he won the big bore class in a Cunningham. The racing community has lost a true hero. My thoughts and prays go out to him and his family. John Wagner (just the wrench) ----- Original Message ----- From: EDWARD BARNARD To: FOT Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:54 PM Subject: [Fot] John Fitch The FOT has been very quiet with many of its members at the VTR Nationals in Galveston Texas. For those who may not have heard, John Fitch passed away this morning. With his passing goes a great fighter pilot, sports car driver, Indy car driver, and a member of the Cunningham team at LeMans with Phil Walters during the big crash in '55. RIP -Ed- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/j.wags63@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 1 07:53:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7602D070D for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 07:53:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com (mail-vc0-f169.google.com [209.85.220.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9AEC2D0690 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 06:59:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id fl17so3260266vcb.14 for ; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 06:00:23 -0700 (PDT) h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=6h6ROlmXJUL45iGWgzD2TzapbxMF7jNp18bvqyCcdHU=; b=aE4N6Pw1KXnX+D93KZjhIHzdU3lVTkKpwP95NcTUiTSkCm3dET4d7k0OgdEaXc5sSs nxVsm4G+xu62AW9j8Sgvqw+LoSVJVquG+XDohqLta6aWWC+O50n7zZs4OhtfHE2T2Wix 9swn+/EScEE7TW2miJSYAIPF4nM8r2AvWADzsN2APmjbzCY6AwhC8vt3rUKLJLRSr53+ FxODYyK98b7VtVR0km5ZPoRi5+0xUx87/bTLZdCg0ZEDSiXk8ihXPBcOLgvXw/sZ/G2c mKJsqgS5f+jK4W8xIULFBJPPyTGM15uwxlYv5Apokp9Mt/PKDOpGUC20RMrxUr9H02UN 76/Q== Received: by 10.52.26.81 with SMTP id j17mr52515276vdg.63.1351774823114; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 06:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Quad3400 (cpe-67-240-51-24.nycap.res.rr.com. [67.240.51.24]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id wc12sm2911462vdc.8.2012.11.01.06.00.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 01 Nov 2012 06:00:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "Clark W. Nicholls" To: "'EDWARD BARNARD'" , "'FOT'" References: <1351738456.92490.YahooMailClassic@web181401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 09:00:18 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac234PaDZeBSa/18Q+WWdkr2HDSnAgAT7Exg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] John Fitch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Great article on John here: http://www.autoweek.com/article/20121031/ALMS/121019873 Clark Clark W. Nicholls 1972 Stag (LE7931E) for sale, 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) and 1 rusty GT6 needing new owner KC 5577 L www.botchagaloop.net for old racing photos "Reality, it's not what you think." _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 1 07:53:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4472D08E4 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 07:53:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f41.google.com (mail-ee0-f41.google.com [74.125.83.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C9F2D0690 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 06:59:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f41.google.com with SMTP id c4so1627540eek.14 for ; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 06:01:04 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=eMxToIqWo5wDeJngXkVlHO6jHukHxb9N5rY49x3CfHI=; b=0HdQfp6Jt5zM4M5dMNhODjpk/Ud6CLsASHGqlvl977gpwloWo8qP2mfjl0wJsCj+Va 0/Zz82IHGvYaiODwdy7lraKeqVGZ2tQy+YdxS997NinZ1lVLBv/OQzY2eeU/TxFTrlY/ RGZvs3Fm0VXWUt0iK36a9WMRCWfeUT7iETT//QlMMiKt+mDURxLa1GEGqXhmT/DQo3Ek CIybLnS+fj8XwwmmgjfjoI7eAhWBeIcGnF6ep9Clko1iDrbdpQE3PQ7LmDSWrbZxwt2A 8kJIquL+hE2X+5O9ckWY2gdNpG2ep93lOw7ipE0toLvO88kPkWYdoSznwGxlCZf+HNti 8Xbg== Received: by 10.14.194.71 with SMTP id l47mr96402985een.6.1351774864025; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 06:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.119.139 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 06:01:03 -0700 (PDT) References: <20121101042451.D7B472D0747@autox.team.net> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 09:01:03 -0400 From: Robert Deanes To: jason@multivintage.com Cc: triumph friends Subject: Re: [Fot] Friendly Hauntings From: FGR. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That makes me feel good about living down south, it is alittle cold now but ower season is yet to be over. We still have a few events left before the end of the year. Hate cold weather ! On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:36 PM, wrote: > An eerie web forms about now on our cars here in the Midwest. > Drained of their fluid and void of their blood. > Like Vampires, tonight; these Triumphs hunger for lube. A long sleep > (perhaps restless) awaits the cold steel and silent horse power of my poor > unheated-garage kept mechanical demon. Killing it... on Halloween night, I > drain the fluid from my beloved GT6. > Surely this cold evening, all hallow's eve, might it find a source of > life, to get through the long cold wInter? > Happy Halloween. > FRIENDLY GHOST RACING > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 1 08:36:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9962D0749 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:36:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f41.google.com (mail-ee0-f41.google.com [74.125.83.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45BDF2D02BE for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 07:32:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f41.google.com with SMTP id c4so1649177eek.14 for ; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 06:33:10 -0700 (PDT) h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=Px4CdGa9x8X/ZLuvfD7IXZPKSLfsflQjSQf1deaQbEU=; b=XayIYmctbSsdYhZXjexn+670Q85WqXMDgBJ1d6H5H49fl5iagwuIA2pU7gUeVW7px9 QR3C62LPiUTpanhFtn26cWE1dmJ1WB5oMOQMpG5wkehReVdEanPGzY5U1a7SNDlh4CzB +aGBhVoh28MvN0CiNuwBsH8hBP1HcMVpQVyo1ZP/SGy+T7qHm65taBGNJOfybLj2MJie 0W2WUwOfM4NnB+pkaJyMufZmqkrrL9LHpkT0UJFCCv/HWWaf8Nxu8sGu2A7zRIfSkszJ bKjHYqPzJLp5gS1cAtHLJ21BF9UOr7oZGVdLE150Ur9ZjKV2Wtz2DOeN75Ll/vTfirIN ASYA== Received: by 10.14.182.5 with SMTP id n5mr97164649eem.5.1351776790337; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 06:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([46.78.235.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o47sm14659805eem.11.2012.11.01.06.33.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 01 Nov 2012 06:33:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'triumph friends'" References: <20121101042441.F2DE52D0682@autox.team.net> <1351773016.18961.YahooMailClassic@web181406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 14:33:04 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac24M7teYT9byfPHTwatJ6t0FopaQgAAIBQA Content-Language: de Subject: [Fot] Triumph Competition seems to become FIA international Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net After now Europe is united all borders are removed and billions of Euros are transferred to the suffering southern countries, The FIA rises the borders of motorsport. FIA says: "Stay in your country and don't race abroad! If you want race abroad, become an international FIA racing series!" Seems that the Triumph Competition (a very tiny club racing series) has to go that way. Then we would be in the same lap as F1 :-))) Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 1 08:37:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71E62D07A3 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:37:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f41.google.com (mail-ee0-f41.google.com [74.125.83.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4192D0619 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 07:41:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f41.google.com with SMTP id c4so1655802eek.14 for ; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 06:42:25 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=O1Jxz9sS3l8qG1Cad4Jh4q4TyhrNbRv0SKcuqtYQURs=; b=u/PTiqd5eZwmEAjKBqAEckYzGfwtl211nI1YfYOQLeDqU7jTKhyAhV2OAOKd8T9pcB LIxOmahF/wnS3Mk6Pf7y5yrZQlcaaa/7bIBMFcjJswFd6m694MECmIC7UONyk2Vk17Jh 1QLr2ATHGYHGqvi23uV4UfVVaHD2h6SSbgbEFlMIVUbTcJygOz9ESrEKXzJ5SpO7q75W 3V2jbx6WvEaQj/PlqFCn3KFf5iRWAARGsrj4lwAOIjXJBE0ptnw4u7+H0a/ifDqyK54P hIUSgLEVvNxcq3KrioFum2O0HQLwmqb14ZiSoUAzSP+k+WB+JELv8YJKt/OYvTsm7d8j fK2Q== Received: by 10.14.194.72 with SMTP id l48mr98315361een.9.1351777345866; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 06:42:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.119.139 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 06:42:25 -0700 (PDT) References: <20121101042441.F2DE52D0682@autox.team.net> <1351773016.18961.YahooMailClassic@web181406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 09:42:25 -0400 From: Robert Deanes To: EDWARD BARNARD Cc: triumph friends Subject: Re: [Fot] Friendly Hauntings From: FGR. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net yes, this week and weekend is the Hilton Head Island Motoring Festival, four or five days of car related events with racing included with HSR, Concours d' Elegance car show which I hear is top of the line, car jamboree and other events on different days. The race track is right by the water on an old track that has been restored to some degree, I personally haven't run this but looking at it for next year as a week to "get away" and relax.I think it is one of the "small bore" challege events sponsered by Classic Motor sports magazine. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 8:30 AM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Head South Jason! We, CVAR have a race the weekend at TWS. I beleive there > is another group running in Savannah this weekend too. I'm sure even > vampires migrate. > -Ed- > > --- On Wed, 10/31/12, jason@multivintage.com > wrote: > > > From: jason@multivintage.com > Subject: [Fot] Friendly Hauntings From: FGR. > To: "triumph friends" > Date: Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 10:36 PM > > > An eerie web forms about now on our cars here in the Midwest. > Drained of their fluid and void of their blood. > Like Vampires, tonight; these Triumphs hunger for lube. A long sleep > (perhaps restless) awaits the cold steel and silent horse power of my poor > unheated-garage kept mechanical demon. Killing it... on Halloween night, I > drain the fluid from my beloved GT6. > Surely this cold evening, all hallow's eve, might it find a source of > life, to get through the long cold wInter? > Happy Halloween. > FRIENDLY GHOST RACING > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 1 09:24:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090EF2D0838 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 09:24:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com (imr-db02.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F7C2D0686 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:21:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.77]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 185FE1C000051; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 10:22:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtd001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtd001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.193]) by mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id DE43DE000082; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 10:22:13 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 10:22:13 -0400 (EDT) To: edwardbarnard@prodigy.net, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1351779734; bh=7uMcYZl1f6aYmguLVbxD+64VZjt8flMN8hMulBiN0vQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yHJP27+nWPHD2EFivelvWlbeJO8VopnQqJV6S6GrsMWvRCqJgfDL90WJOJdycEKpg IU+m2c3+N4p0Eax9SV+KV3GT31eC+sDPTopfpq28YgcsQVC9Ns7qVtkx6JeuH59yh2 TszuFcg2kMrU4eGmKkjVC3qmNfS5XLP6seuYk2nU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294d50928595548e Subject: Re: [Fot] John Fitch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 10/31/2012 9:27:57 PM Central Standard Time, edwardbarnard@prodigy.net writes: > The FOT has been very quiet with many of its members at the VTR Nationals > in Galveston Texas. For those who may not have heard, John Fitch passed > away this morning. > With his passing goes a great fighter pilot, sports car driver, Indy car > driver, and a member of the Cunningham team at LeMans with Phil Walters > during the big crash in '55. > Amen to that. One of the classic 'gentlemen racers' of the early days of road racing here in the United States. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 1 09:25:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBAAD2D08D5 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 09:25:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA102D05EB for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:26:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.12]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id AE2901C000148; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 10:27:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtd001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtd001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.193]) by mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 89870E000082; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 10:27:49 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 10:27:49 -0400 (EDT) To: j.wags63@yahoo.com, edwardbarnard@prodigy.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1351780069; bh=8qlsGaCLqa/xNQ+EzkbW3XGGlLMXhmNECPnlIucaNqI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RlUzCFljFDNREJ4I96+pHneIWH56LqaUH7bAd+Lm9ocIbJgrjiFLHDlGkg/erNniO nWHwQDqvGxdVCcqfXFLlWfTK88LHUhrort2ZB3bNIUBmP4feq2wsFB5zP/IJ/90ctT F8V48xbgb7olXaFqLwezn7aE0GLGjwu6ehILKJYA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290c509286e55f89 Cc: Fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] John Fitch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 11/01/2012 7:22:29 AM Central Standard Time, j.wags63@yahoo.com writes: > John Wagner (just the wrench) > (just the wrench)? Right! And Lombardi was (just the coach). Or better still...Kastner was (just the wrench). Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 1 10:03:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36B72D075B for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 10:03:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E7E2C0CE1 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:40:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.22.217]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MCT00AYICTKBV30@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 09:41:45 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "EDWARD BARNARD" , "Tom Householder" , "FOT" References: <1351772581.67142.YahooMailClassic@web181405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 10:41:40 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] John Fitch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi all, I just checked my copy of "LeMans 55" and think there is a little confusion. Levegh/Fitch shared a Mersedes 300SLR, which LeVegh crashed when he hit the Austin-Healey 100S of Macklin/Leston, Macklin driving, which had to swerve to avoid the D Type Jaguar of Hawthorne/Bueb, Hawthorne driving, which had made a sudden move to pit. A lot of people blame Hawthorne for the crash, fault Mercedes for not withdrawing until 12 or more hours later, and the race organizers for not halting the race. Terrible crash and aftermath. Further reading shows Phil Walters in D-type Jag with Bill Spear. Also Briggs and Sherwood Johnson in a Cunningham C-6R. Also three TR2's entered. How did everyone fare with the hurricane? Safe and sound, we hope. We had high winds and lots of rain here, but no major problems. Cheers, Bill----- Original Message ----- From: "EDWARD BARNARD" To: "Tom Householder" ; "FOT" Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 8:23 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] John Fitch > Thanks Tom! He was quite a man. I thought he was with the Cunningham team > in "55; interesting to see he was paired with Leveigh in the A/H which > "caused" the crash. Phil Wallters (AKA Ted Tappet; I'm showing my roots > :O)) was with Cunningham, and refused to ever race again after the '55 > LeMans. As a side note...I believe Walters had also been a P-51 pilot over > Germany. Birds of a feather. > -Ed- > > --- On Wed, 10/31/12, Tom Householder wrote: > > > From: Tom Householder > Subject: Re: [Fot] John Fitch > To: "EDWARD BARNARD" > Date: Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 10:37 PM > > > FYI > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Fitch_(racing_driver) > > > On Oct 31, 2012, at 10:54 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > >> The FOT has been very quiet with many of its members at the VTR Nationals >> in Galveston Texas. For those who may not have heard, John Fitch passed >> away this morning. >> With his passing goes a great fighter pilot, sports car driver, Indy car >> driver, and a member of the Cunningham team at LeMans with Phil Walters >> during the big crash in '55. >> RIP >> -Ed- >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trhouse@columbus.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 1 10:53:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4007C2D0868 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 10:53:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm26-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm26-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE13B2D0674 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 10:03:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.54] by nm26.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2012 16:04:26 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.9] by tm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2012 16:04:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1009.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2012 16:04:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 77186 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Nov 2012 16:04:26 -0000 s=s1024; t=1351785866; bh=gHlrsT8dUbraDRjZezQ0YetCmdRBm7RRn0klar6NFDE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AiCXNNjEiNB1CRmgSOAc84ijWHhBzUR+J8UQlqyvLZg0+4kYydbt3zlHkqn01/u2/CLLo7jQMjKJGdb4o1qefIXchk8jx38109yrzMELBTxTLbQ0Lkay7ryjwLh4eCbDgqMNKe2ojoxdcYyRonoYVr9nR4azQr5oHv1zWIgVp2k= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WC0fVvCaXTOiQMeBDskOTeLx2wJWqN8qbCE/pSixpYFeZMYybtgO0DHOgdzbBF2VVILaLao/QzAqRaiDDs2Wrv0sW53o/EcnbZWWRHyTIspn+QiS2mELkX9CKJT+9mUQ1dPHhDD2wbOfAiQA1d0Ar7/3sGhRTlUNF9513l99pow=; 6am658lSE0aVJACVORG5eN1bn_YQBwkY8xWnerE8jV2EgHAktq5e3NSOypU3 C7ObrgWMbRQ_4ZyeWzBNmfQ.m8XfdGX2BDPY.ZIfoXrm.EG9Rl2.oyBz98fB IUGMkPawjdgBfFymQGxHuJL.072hXUfm8KJdPWwuc7Ga2nua6ehuzCw0Nh27 Wq96JAMRunfUMfO2o5FtjPdTAjqfhogRAS95Gk5iaA7gtboFW_sKwf5J26RT JMOpkowS8Zl6PKetfhACZoYKMDEj6WIfq3Hxe04xjCIWwyPDUF2I7GbfivCq wPQrSNTCblA5ElZAoAoxj6f.tX52JdYhRJsYFuDi7FP3qMikMkMmf3BoLPqp 71EMFMWwHSvmA2giKcMzxMeFQ.41jSsMKaw.AYvqB4kVLf1JGlfoHvLsBxDw XeMUJ9Xy9ZM7DGnqbgj9L8EFDAkcp_uoUgqDee8xdgw-- Received: from [97.78.41.112] by web39303.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 09:04:26 PDT SGVsbG8sIGFsbC7CoMKgwqAgSSB3YXMgdmVyeSBzb3JyeSB0byBoZWFyIGFib3V0IHRoZSBwYXNzaW5nIG9mIEpvbiBGaXRjaC4gSGUgd2FzIG5vdCBvbmx5IGEgZ3JlYXQgZHJpdmVyLCBwaWxvdCxldGMsIGJ1dCBoZSB3YXMgYSBnZW51aW5lIG5pY2UgZ3V5LiBTb21lIHllYXJzIGJhY2sgSSBoYWQgdGhlIHBsZWFzdXJlIHRvIGJlIG9uIHRoZSBzdGFnZSB3aXRoIGhpbSBhdCB0aGUgR2xlbiBUaGVhdGVyIGluIFdhdGtpbnMgR2xlbiAuIEkgd2FzIGhvbm9yZWQgdG8gYmUgaW52aXRlZCB0byBzcGVhaywgYWwBMAEBAQE- Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 09:04:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Ed Diehl To: fot Subject: [Fot] John Fitch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello, all. I was very sorry to hear about the passing of Jon Fitch. He was not only a great driver, pilot,etc, but he was a genuine nice guy. Some years back I had the pleasure to be on the stage with him at the Glen Theater in Watkins Glen . I was honored to be invited to speak, along with John Fitch, Bob Lutz, and Bill Millican at the Vintage Grand Prix. That part of the event is called "Legends Speak". What an honor!! He was a very pleasant man and his wife was a quite a nice Lady. Never forget it! Cheers, Ed Ed Diehl _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 1 11:23:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85EFF2D0899 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 11:23:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f169.google.com (mail-ob0-f169.google.com [209.85.214.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D402D03AB for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 10:42:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f169.google.com with SMTP id va7so3344131obc.14 for ; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 09:43:22 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=FQb0LLAg3tM3Ehq+SBDRclR6+ZE+3cDmUDv/LJpSguw=; b=Ctbd7zh+QzTkep8I7fvdPUlsvdQAiu7QA7NeDNgWG3YRrTMi+BYiME2zG743rO9LVl VUUhQtQiYqZ5IfEPUfSxxTkEktsRY4h2QYR56+8WEO6A9SvYM7SuIzqhESORPQcWtlpP BrvT7nrhCpPcmzEI7qnN0etYyMY43BLZgf5eBllnWMm35NMo+agaeulE7HNy5PvUEAnz xVsZ7DDZIZLk803zZeBHrdAyXEAsC3Df7dxEtVfQJPvt9RLoW+jS2Q6HZR48WbasBQ4r NXr41QmXXOVW8iAQxglAoFqbRdmak1GW1Wr87PmOsdqdwuSD3bsa8ViVA5sywbIQ87uq VGCg== Received: by 10.60.169.38 with SMTP id ab6mr35559400oec.139.1351788202026; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 09:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.78.36 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 09:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.78.36 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 09:43:21 -0700 (PDT) References: <20121101042441.F2DE52D0682@autox.team.net> <1351773016.18961.YahooMailClassic@web181406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 09:43:21 -0700 From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" To: EDWARD BARNARD Cc: Friends Subject: Re: [Fot] Friendly Hauntings From: FGR. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I keep mine live all winter and give it a start weekly -- keeps the injectors and pump working. On Nov 1, 2012 6:21 AM, "EDWARD BARNARD" wrote: > Head South Jason! We, CVAR have a race the weekend at TWS. I beleive there > is another group running in Savannah this weekend too. I'm sure even > vampires migrate. > -Ed- > > --- On Wed, 10/31/12, jason@multivintage.com > wrote: > > > From: jason@multivintage.com > Subject: [Fot] Friendly Hauntings From: FGR. > To: "triumph friends" > Date: Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 10:36 PM > > > An eerie web forms about now on our cars here in the Midwest. > Drained of their fluid and void of their blood. > Like Vampires, tonight; these Triumphs hunger for lube. A long sleep > (perhaps restless) awaits the cold steel and silent horse power of my poor > unheated-garage kept mechanical demon. Killing it... on Halloween night, I > drain the fluid from my beloved GT6. > Surely this cold evening, all hallow's eve, might it find a source of > life, to get through the long cold wInter? > Happy Halloween. > FRIENDLY GHOST RACING > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 1 12:20:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E4F92D070F for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 12:20:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail168c2.megamailservers.com (mail168c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB472D075B for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 11:44:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) by mail168c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id qA1HjraP015736; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:46:04 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: "'MadMarx'" , "'triumph friends'" References: <20121101042441.F2DE52D0682@autox.team.net><1351773016.18961.YahooMailClassic@web181406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <003c01cdb835$6dbd4370$4937ca50$@com> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:45:52 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac24M7teYT9byfPHTwatJ6t0FopaQgAAIBQAAAkL0+A= a=WhU10AjPoqoA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=nGDdRNp4ptOJDjjejTgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=CWo0hr5iz4NSH2aV:21 a=_kxkKivO0tnCD-9H:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph Competition seems to become FIA international Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Chris: Does the FIA have such a hold on the race tracks in Europe that they won't let a club race at the track unless the club is FIA sanctioned? John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of MadMarx Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 9:33 AM To: 'triumph friends' Subject: [Fot] Triumph Competition seems to become FIA international After now Europe is united all borders are removed and billions of Euros are transferred to the suffering southern countries, The FIA rises the borders of motorsport. FIA says: "Stay in your country and don't race abroad! If you want race abroad, become an international FIA racing series!" Seems that the Triumph Competition (a very tiny club racing series) has to go that way. Then we would be in the same lap as F1 :-))) Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 1 12:57:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C957A2D08A8 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 12:57:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com (mail-bk0-f41.google.com [209.85.214.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEDC82D06E7 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 12:12:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-bk0-f41.google.com with SMTP id jm1so1328662bkc.14 for ; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 11:13:28 -0700 (PDT) h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=mT0x9CL+aBYFU8J9B6fLovYh1d5x53rMyyMOgcNcCdQ=; b=hwCzc5cGW1VR+cdoKP3TMOaET7RkbDBywjEcNLKmCxtGNvyszwz1SWyrov9EYc+zsg a+Ul3spqh2Qvwt5AKlt5x2UUyy7vH9zehhhBVttf2BjXee0QMaUhpN1JRJ+b3KgPSHjx PMmZ9LKJdfiXSZsnvvNaFTRvwpl2WdPrE1OYo5I/0GsRr/5fjptCffQjRBPSo+unds7n pIlNoiFta3ScnKl/QIT6DJe93qHCiGlJRz+v6KzaE0PguFNx+1WM0GEKMkv9ep/sIqt9 SKsmWq39/0sUYDI0G1eFkXzBrSwapA3VkqmeygoVRSLdXxwdNdMr9E3JoBeURpP6MMNW ODhA== Received: by 10.204.129.211 with SMTP id p19mr12748780bks.94.1351793608458; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 11:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home (ip-109-84-170-75.web.vodafone.de. [109.84.170.75]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g8sm5589596bkv.6.2012.11.01.11.13.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 01 Nov 2012 11:13:27 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'john hasty'" , "'triumph friends'" References: <20121101042441.F2DE52D0682@autox.team.net><1351773016.18961.YahooMailClassic@web181406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <003c01cdb835$6dbd4370$4937ca50$@com> <18D07C1CAAE44B4380362457AB5A8E93@gdhs.local> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 19:13:22 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac24M7teYT9byfPHTwatJ6t0FopaQgAAIBQAAAkL0+AAAIrYMA== Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph Competition seems to become FIA international Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It is a chain dependence. The tracks have insurances. The insurance says, "I take the risk but are you FIA homologated?" If the track says "yes" FIA is in the game. If the track says "no", no insurance. The trouble starts if a racing series is doing more than 1 race outside of its country. For example: The TC is German, and we are doing 5 races elsewhere, France, Belgium, Netherlands, England, Luxemburg, then we are treated as an international racing series...even if we are small group with no sponsors. Europe is scattered in small territories you know regardless of the European idea. You now can ask - why do you race foreign? Answer: Too many great tracks there are in Europe and it would be shame not to race on them. I have a "have to race" list, and there too many tracks not marked off. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: john hasty [mailto:jhhasty@gdhs.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 1. November 2012 18:46 An: 'MadMarx'; 'triumph friends' Betreff: RE: [Fot] Triumph Competition seems to become FIA international Chris: Does the FIA have such a hold on the race tracks in Europe that they won't let a club race at the track unless the club is FIA sanctioned? John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of MadMarx Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 9:33 AM To: 'triumph friends' Subject: [Fot] Triumph Competition seems to become FIA international After now Europe is united all borders are removed and billions of Euros are transferred to the suffering southern countries, The FIA rises the borders of motorsport. FIA says: "Stay in your country and don't race abroad! If you want race abroad, become an international FIA racing series!" Seems that the Triumph Competition (a very tiny club racing series) has to go that way. Then we would be in the same lap as F1 :-))) Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 1 12:58:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DDE62D0972 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 12:58:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail175c2.megamailservers.com (mail175c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FBBA2D0531 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 12:18:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) by mail175c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id qA1IJOlP011325; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 14:19:28 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: "'MadMarx'" , "'triumph friends'" References: <20121101042441.F2DE52D0682@autox.team.net><1351773016.18961.YahooMailClassic@web181406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <003c01cdb835$6dbd4370$4937ca50$@com> <18D07C1CAAE44B4380362457AB5A8E93@gdhs.local> <001701cdb85c$96156920$c2403b60$@com> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 14:19:23 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac24M7teYT9byfPHTwatJ6t0FopaQgAAIBQAAAkL0+AAAIrYMAAAqhog a=WhU10AjPoqoA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=R5p_PmfuoeS3pQYK-vsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=p9Py6hBN-cSnmC9o:21 a=VWgUdVY2pTfQwXgC:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph Competition seems to become FIA international Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Good Lord, thank goodness it's not like there over here. If it were we would all be in the clutches of the France family. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: MadMarx [mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 2:13 PM To: 'john hasty'; 'triumph friends' Subject: AW: [Fot] Triumph Competition seems to become FIA international It is a chain dependence. The tracks have insurances. The insurance says, "I take the risk but are you FIA homologated?" If the track says "yes" FIA is in the game. If the track says "no", no insurance. The trouble starts if a racing series is doing more than 1 race outside of its country. For example: The TC is German, and we are doing 5 races elsewhere, France, Belgium, Netherlands, England, Luxemburg, then we are treated as an international racing series...even if we are small group with no sponsors. Europe is scattered in small territories you know regardless of the European idea. You now can ask - why do you race foreign? Answer: Too many great tracks there are in Europe and it would be shame not to race on them. I have a "have to race" list, and there too many tracks not marked off. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: john hasty [mailto:jhhasty@gdhs.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 1. November 2012 18:46 An: 'MadMarx'; 'triumph friends' Betreff: RE: [Fot] Triumph Competition seems to become FIA international Chris: Does the FIA have such a hold on the race tracks in Europe that they won't let a club race at the track unless the club is FIA sanctioned? John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of MadMarx Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 9:33 AM To: 'triumph friends' Subject: [Fot] Triumph Competition seems to become FIA international After now Europe is united all borders are removed and billions of Euros are transferred to the suffering southern countries, The FIA rises the borders of motorsport. FIA says: "Stay in your country and don't race abroad! If you want race abroad, become an international FIA racing series!" Seems that the Triumph Competition (a very tiny club racing series) has to go that way. Then we would be in the same lap as F1 :-))) Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 1 16:57:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAAF52D07A5 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:57:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm19.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm19.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.89]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B41052D06EE for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:12:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.91.67] by nm19.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2012 22:13:30 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.33] by tm7.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2012 22:13:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1033.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2012 22:13:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 32442 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Nov 2012 22:13:29 -0000 s=s1024; t=1351808009; bh=4GaDEMMgKuH2V/bI2u4EW7tHhMDpAv2J38jOaY5sfqU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=R+SleYsq0ld5YZl37PJauJVJ+Uc+SEI1xk8Aq0lHUk1NOai+VOTzIz5/iBl6I1oqAjrjBUQ7AuztYnzdQIEHI2WC+3o5MSTTaTQY5nHaR0Ofih38PwNzHn0vNuy5J1h2IW7hBhSDz0Tp2AbjGt5MTjNPgHt//eJVdXo9dHVFwYw= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pzSO4HoZrQ4pL1MX8sxenZt+jtLwdtZh7cAg7xdlQ32IuvpT9HxzN0AKY+dEX5iBcUCjpF4aqcrM5hto9G9zYiYqS8XK4zaQ6MHTj/mgsPd36wn+T1b0iQsaX7p/TIQ4wW40EEFheXCCXMnkbDLv1KyE+ad+8PwH/7IePRNXa7I=; ulGs23hOkcosgIFo7YzG8QN20gdRLPVsV4hPkONgPjpYg6AxLp3xcv_r1dEk _3j4DexOHARLiZPI4668T0QwItJifmzWXtY7WfBT0fwGchgHDN0Fxka5DeGA KDtylCUGB_CasM2b13h1kpf4urv0QVGRYZ5wkjvCRHA3fQatJJWAtY.QJwx7 y4y6ghERG_GGR7.yRdOOJ6vTRE0.DpPZ_BAaFC_gCo3lURc9wXjWaCddlhDq N3W3U2FWlbK_SLqC_QibjVXmAoMPY78Tq0U50wl94g3yaeU4azVwakREMPJo naLBSujjNeU9WVh4PnYxS1rPtYWXwD1pLQcNfsaekaCc2BJbtDJaY.4oxl2J L_JH5UOfsEF56kG_Wmy9HH57aTq3hXgkgiFj0bvY0VJq_iIZ2XCkB7QctOc5 nk__aAe9cQ00WVBvtKiQYtsdGsEidxkS3DOx.ws1nVhiDSau6wwuXMPHnX9u IxaEg Received: from [72.187.46.150] by web39301.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 15:13:29 PDT CgoKwqAKRWQgRGllaGwKCi0tLS0tIEZvcndhcmRlZCBNZXNzYWdlIC0tLS0tCkZyb206IEVkIERpZWhsIDxtZWRpZWhsanJAeWFob28uY29tPgpUbzogZm90IDxmb3RAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQ.IApTZW50OiBUaHVyc2RheSwgTm92ZW1iZXIgMSwgMjAxMiAxMjowNCBQTQpTdWJqZWN0OiBKb2huIEZpdGNoCiAKCkhlbGxvLCBhbGwuwqDCoMKgIEkgd2FzIHZlcnkgc29ycnkgdG8gaGVhciBhYm91dCB0aGUgcGFzc2luZyBvZiBKb24gRml0Y2guIEhlIHdhcyBub3Qgb25seSBhIGdyZWF0IGRyaXZlciwgcGlsb3QBMAEBAQE- References: <1351785866.71354.YahooMailNeo@web39303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 15:13:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Ed Diehl To: fot Subject: [Fot] Fw: John Fitch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ed Diehl ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Ed Diehl To: fot Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 12:04 PM Subject: John Fitch Hello, all. I was very sorry to hear about the passing of Jon Fitch. He was not only a great driver, pilot,etc, but he was a genuine nice guy. Some years back I had the pleasure to be on the stage with him at the Glen Theater in Watkins Glen . I was honored to be invited to speak, along with John Fitch, Bob Lutz, and Bill Millican at the Vintage Grand Prix. That part of the event is called "Legends Speak". What an honor!! He was a very pleasant man and his wife was a quite a nice Lady. Never forget it! Cheers, Ed Ed Diehl _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 1 20:48:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6B22D08D3 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 20:48:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc3-s10.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc3-s10.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.149]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9912D03AE for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 19:48:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT120-W21 ([65.55.90.135]) by snt0-omc3-s10.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 1 Nov 2012 18:49:48 -0700 From: Kas Kastner To: "mediehljr@yahoo.com" , fot Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 01:49:48 +0000 References: <1351785866.71354.YahooMailNeo@web39303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <1351808009.23242.YahooMailNeo@web39301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> FILETIME=[57753340:01CDB89C] Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: John Fitch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've had long conversations with John in various places in the world and he was a just a very nice man,. FAST too. I'm big on FAST. Never be beaten by equipment > Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 15:13:29 -0700 > From: mediehljr@yahoo.com > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Fw: John Fitch > > > Ed Diehl > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: Ed Diehl > > To: fot > Sent: Thursday, November > 1, 2012 12:04 PM > Subject: John Fitch > > > Hello, all. I was very sorry to > hear about the passing of Jon Fitch. He was not only a great driver, > pilot,etc, but he was a genuine nice guy. Some years back I had the pleasure > to be on the stage with him at the Glen Theater in Watkins Glen . I was > honored to be invited to speak, along with John Fitch, Bob Lutz, and Bill > Millican at the Vintage Grand Prix. That part of the event is called "Legends > Speak". What an honor!! He was a very pleasant man and his wife was a quite a > nice Lady. Never forget it! Cheers, Ed > > > Ed Diehl > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 1 23:31:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 864762D064F for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 23:31:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.162]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BB72D05E8 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 22:28:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.149] by nm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Nov 2012 04:29:58 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.120] by tm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Nov 2012 04:29:57 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1025.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Nov 2012 04:29:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 9400 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Nov 2012 04:29:57 -0000 s=s1024; t=1351830597; bh=GLHbeBd12GyKIqL+XPnIxgrGz31FWmsYCPgjya9eBlg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=obdieW4NGrGDyTVtXTt6ItWOW/8ayo6zLzAaEz5BpzcFwKMrbGNTOBap6hBjskaazyT1dLdFgxPqa5dRf+X/AAEWVZ/L5NaPBxAltiqy5EZ5p6rdMFYC5woBmHBNXxJNGscTyQwkIX2z1QcHGteeyqxdqJtxrGkBaYKE2+r0NLI= s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sCUU/oYnl0woZpjSHG4Hn2s76+b21c8f05IH5a0Gof2x53ZMyjofRIBM4CHCQEpcqbba3+u1jDYJ4UO62tKj3Np6hDSVo2R0bsFcboZhSuB3iN+9PnKvJuhrJw0CuyWOW+LGi4x6cLDU/C7Uf9VLYR5CgGM1miiq3o35dH6diEg=; n3b0VPqaTaQYPaAPJCIwQw39tjyTR8Mxa_I_p7NYah4VtMJzQq0dgEifNrv8 1m1b7CkUovHSd0yk_5VGy2nmZEoDnfw8Xc_awRcj2qLrMLtnsh8bjTOqNxb_ KF.j_OUlHzk7TCX5JG3cSTRcKXyMEvRbqk3lSjq8j847YBjMgxrGH_lOr.6M JYKJzDobfYExANvZ4XJGYvpz7wUFG2MUBNSZaYQHtPvDAAQY20lf_8BW07zm RDQXuzOXUZo0Aw3ldDraAf9Bqy_kx.0cf6y0MxOeLHzMPL.fo5ttTZfSfrTp Ed8NTorBz_rqzm_E__8Fp.woaGu9VBDrgHXpHagJ1e9xu7PyWx5tACHFgNOL OL_PhM88DZH7WqA0_lAhAfSjzdrR9Ps_7XbMuyNSFeYRvJQGyaB7qN6ETJlY fM14snCbb2MVZ7wnA7FvPkTMkE.Q_cITTfAX_0tp0R0oHQYiGFdknKOd5vv7 i4Eg.SJo1BIdkPHUSm1htALGDcywd4Kl4BGXJpYulCVkFD.Ki1oyp2eKAuap ocrzM6T9ERgLH82AMUHS9MuQY7I8rizYkTbNdib0FZ56Z7PcPlI90DhX014q PH.Wm.z4Vl1769tnmlMxfykFKHF1dXb65ela7_JGSdbt9881m5m_7m2mHLx6 oj8DGvxY7L3GzMdgP7OdEbPa_9evKbJDDxOfn7KQ7WAUV5qJehuOSlDQlEin 6S3C_VpumyOjoamLQxBcv_gZXSa0MAzaYvTb2CA70DUYpDxHaOP4Zd6lLQ18 yrL8stxCSS65noGMHPLcb_ZzeugenINS_4ArF4QuVUiFiELZMqkpZMccU_hQ Rg31okq6A.7Tp3yQqv9FtmQi.xWOG6PVOUuoUO96nvPdr7Tl6TUxxT7TW1hP Qy1dPQZzNUhFlR7qJncN1ksI2fMMR6L3ZWTrgayV8l9_eafvK_6Yyl1R07tS Xzw4qYBU17svLWhub8Q-- Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web181404.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 21:29:56 PDT QmlsbDogWWVzLCBJIHJlYWxpemVkIEkgaGFkIG1pc3MgdHlwZWQgYXMgc29vbiBhcyBJIGhpdCBzZW5kLiBJIGhhZCB0aGUgQS9IIG9uIG15IG1pbmQgYXMgSSB0eXBlZC4gQSBzaWRlLW5vdGUuLi50aGUgQS9IIHNvbGQgYXQgYXVjdGlvbiB0aGlzIHllYXIgZm9yIGEgdmVyeSBvYnNjZW5lIGFtb3VudCBvZiBkb2xsYXJzLg0KwqANCkJlbG93IGlzIHRoZSBvYml0IGZvciBKb2huIEZpdGNoIHRoYXQgd2FzIGluIHRoZSBOWSBUaW1lcy4gQWxzbywgUiZUIGhhcyBhIG5pY2Ugd3JpdGUtdXAgaW4gdGhlIG5ld2UBMAEBAQE- Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 21:29:56 -0700 (PDT) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: Tom Householder , FOT , Bill Tobin Subject: Re: [Fot] John Fitch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bill: Yes, I realized I had miss typed as soon as I hit send. I had the A/H on my mind as I typed. A side-note...the A/H sold at auction this year for a very obscene amount of dollars. Below is the obit for John Fitch that was in the NY Times. Also, R&T has a nice write-up in the newest edition. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/01/sports/autoracing/john-cooper-fitch-glamoro us-racer-with-a-flair-for-danger-dies-at-95.html?hpw&pagewanted=all -Ed- --- On Thu, 11/1/12, Bill Tobin wrote: From: Bill Tobin Subject: Re: [Fot] John Fitch To: "EDWARD BARNARD" , "Tom Householder" , "FOT" Date: Thursday, November 1, 2012, 9:41 AM Hi all, I just checked my copy of "LeMans 55" and think there is a little confusion. Levegh/Fitch shared a Mersedes 300SLR, which LeVegh crashed when he hit the Austin-Healey 100S of Macklin/Leston, Macklin driving, which had to swerve to avoid the D Type Jaguar of Hawthorne/Bueb, Hawthorne driving, which had made a sudden move to pit. A lot of people blame Hawthorne for the crash, fault Mercedes for not withdrawing until 12 or more hours later, and the race organizers for not halting the race. Terrible crash and aftermath. Further reading shows Phil Walters in D-type Jag with Bill Spear. Also Briggs and Sherwood Johnson in a Cunningham C-6R. Also three TR2's entered. How did everyone fare with the hurricane? Safe and sound, we hope. We had high winds and lots of rain here, but no major problems. Cheers, Bill----- Original Message ----- From: "EDWARD BARNARD" To: "Tom Householder" ; "FOT" Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 8:23 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] John Fitch > Thanks Tom! He was quite a man. I thought he was with the Cunningham team in "55; interesting to see he was paired with Leveigh in the A/H which "caused" the crash. Phil Wallters (AKA Ted Tappet; I'm showing my roots :O)) was with Cunningham, and refused to ever race again after the '55 LeMans. As a side note...I believe Walters had also been a P-51 pilot over Germany. Birds of a feather. > -Ed- > > --- On Wed, 10/31/12, Tom Householder wrote: > > > From: Tom Householder > Subject: Re: [Fot] John Fitch > To: "EDWARD BARNARD" > Date: Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 10:37 PM > > > FYI > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Fitch_(racing_driver) > > > On Oct 31, 2012, at 10:54 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > >> The FOT has been very quiet with many of its members at the VTR Nationals in Galveston Texas. For those who may not have heard, John Fitch passed away this morning. >> With his passing goes a great fighter pilot, sports car driver, Indy car driver, and a member of the Cunningham team at LeMans with Phil Walters during the big crash in '55. >> RIP >> -Ed- >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trhouse@columbus.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 2 11:04:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7206D2D084F for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:04:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm32-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm32-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9306C2D0683 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 10:12:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.149] by nm32.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Nov 2012 16:13:36 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.239] by tm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Nov 2012 16:13:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1048.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Nov 2012 16:13:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 15308 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Nov 2012 16:13:35 -0000 s=s1024; t=1351872815; bh=hfxTZJMVx51eVw0m36icAYWiR3illk828O7u65TIOh0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pxOwvDqQ28kJrgqPMpU+3RsjLusVdore3qFARb3n950sMmj8MWshHYLq7YyrrFoZfdrfpYdALICiTeZ+ByJ8KW5gy5R8ozGS8IoRpAQE4HA7X8HuWYY0jFh6whn26nIYsWt242iCr1+QGa/ZdNfjcEk80BXvEwZviE5YkiiWLBI= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=touaE29Pb3Mkv/I8G51ydt6eUmkiIGPgJT2/rIEFZC6UJtvUkWdw5A+vBrZWyy8lLkDi3s0c2O5o84VUQqUGox7tyAbPHhkJpX1ca57WA8dDt6e/qei6AC31HjCq/bjk1hQcFEoRtAy9mBKcu0KM9nUVlB4VYGhRltXAlltAeM4=; fy.hLhX1ITz.rpRDQaRKPpeVT1UrQjC36upACjJRonCzznXAwjA1Azp2tRNa g14emPBT5OYQ9JH_rgmhjZdDZ0f5fstUmdVAimUZ1tH57K9PW.iCbNOLm48O VwCJuTimwDcHiAxsIv0tMpRoMz9PPPnuLfZY8Ri840c7cwZLgndgmaaggH1s Qn74vsktkUM3efyCKQAOEswJfbtlAJgzHK_DamfR5ESscvspU6EN2pBlXWu2 yWvrHN81fQOQGop_yREvKIglW7Si5cLyG9egC_bS00fTXFYD_U85QhnMBrWu XHpZpfMnEJz55BFKM0UH_ivSusPQoROdC7hGtRDPDVDB0IQmYOBuuNdaIOvc 5YCvH6qXsUZdXHU8YgnUm5Y7WQYLTTqh85TgRSsFm80B52Wu.1ee1auXrwtA G6x.3twroez8E5K.OsG7IV.Ldb4yfH2Yru5oyY51j0sdYS0HbgtNc11dM3Pc - Received: from [97.78.41.112] by web39302.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 09:13:35 PDT CgoKCsKgCkVkIERpZWhsCgotLS0tLSBGb3J3YXJkZWQgTWVzc2FnZSAtLS0tLQpGcm9tOiBFZCBEaWVobCA8bWVkaWVobGpyQHlhaG9vLmNvbT4KVG86IGZvdCA8Zm90QGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0PiAKU2VudDogVGh1cnNkYXksIE5vdmVtYmVyIDEsIDIwMTIgMTI6MDQgUE0KU3ViamVjdDogSm9obiBGaXRjaAogCgpIZWxsbywgYWxsLsKgwqDCoCBJIHdhcyB2ZXJ5IHNvcnJ5IHRvIGhlYXIgYWJvdXQgdGhlIHBhc3Npbmcgb2YgSm9obiBGaXRjaC4gSGUgd2FzIG5vdCBvbmx5IGEgZ3JlYXQgZHJpdmVyLCBwaWwBMAEBAQE- References: <1351785866.71354.YahooMailNeo@web39303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 09:13:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Ed Diehl To: fot Subject: [Fot] Fw: John Fitch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ed Diehl ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Ed Diehl To: fot Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 12:04 PM Subject: John Fitch Hello, all. I was very sorry to hear about the passing of John Fitch. He was not only a great driver, pilot,etc, but he was a genuine nice guy. Some years back I had the pleasure to be on the stage with him at the Glen Theater in Watkins Glen . I was honored to be invited to speak, along with John Fitch, Bob Lutz, and Bill Milligan at the Vintage Grand Prix. That part of the event is called "Legends Speak". What an honor!! He was a very pleasant man and his wife was a quite a nice Lady. Never forget it! Cheers, Ed Ed Diehl _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 2 12:33:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D2622D06C6 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 12:33:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm2.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm2.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.52.199]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8BD2D06B6 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:29:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.52.197] by nm2.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Nov 2012 17:30:48 -0000 Received: from [98.139.52.161] by tm10.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Nov 2012 17:30:48 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1044.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Nov 2012 17:30:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 24806 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Nov 2012 17:30:48 -0000 s=s1024; t=1351877448; bh=RrCRJLHlIkUySHu71cFBlVrXlG3Xs77KSGUVDs8BmKs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AJdo/Vu2ua+Q6zCAl0IfEte139azkdcuzIm/M+WH4IHUTGedqrqGtelS3e+yhJU3q1jLc5Js+nRnSb8C5LAVwSV20q2CAUI78K0+g6cWjwLK/xho/dF9M89cupitcgbpYJ8JR/0Fk/siCTuIyPfOB26IeMlbraIIWb2s0ku+9AU= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dok1vPmKoROySAs21YdtZBz5Ywqmi8mXAggStPBEXJ5LBKv48EHj+dX13g5eHBdWfZOVIfbBdzYqGn/XNgDUf5H/6T4saA5XcA9T0hnpAJYNb95jRYImafE7h3MXKR6lyRO4f1KNyuYZBXSxnz6X5aMU24RL/BkckJDPcXQyExk=; YHt3RFc17TAard.ewBcc_XsBFXFlQ9ZQJPQW6Ka29iyGGgxowAHF8lJZxIzP t_nkabbkEsWaBDrIgP.m6G9FMGZOqxm8B_DWOzRjVuWeTQkEJi2TychtQBlI zHCHos8IwtGvmb7vlV6LzUFJuK0ptU55ojZmj19k0xyLhQlXJP9RiUZ5Y7YE cdB5hwp9mni9Uc_6tMpx4bfxiB6.glTrsGaEpaRwKCcSomAAmfNqUA3URr_g vS9RB7qoxeRUe_yZOP7gypn_goVgHRt.m_EfUmfZ5wxVJJmQOPb5t2i9ibBX DdjtWipWRxiccKTVZ6mqiUVfd33ugXO14V5JUqe0isrkXtoe2eqkPQmGNHVH gGvEVszT.f.0jqybe._mh2HpdtdHYt4bWnecZBnKJCOAg8Cl.ow7qyrrn89l Qiv36.fhUSf2ufFmJPmL0oCLmdr.1y5cvrLn902k- Received: from [97.78.41.112] by web39305.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 10:30:48 PDT SGksIGV2ZXJ5b25lLiBJIGFtIHZlcnkgc29ycnkgdG8gaGF2ZSBsb2FkZWQgdXAgeW91ciBpbiBib3hlcyB3aXRoIHRoZSBzYW1lIG1lc3NhZ2UuIE15IGNvbXB1dGVyIGRlY2lkZWQgdG8gaGljY3VwIGFuZCBiZWxjaCBhdCB0aGUgc2FtZSB0aW1lIGFuZCBJIGxvc3QgY29udHJvbC4gTHVja3kgdGhlcmUgd2FzIG5vdGhpbmcgdG8gaGl0LiBoZSBoZS4gQ2hlZXJzLCBFZC4KCsKgCkVkIERpZWhsATABAQEB Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 10:30:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Ed Diehl To: fot Subject: [Fot] E Mails Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, everyone. I am very sorry to have loaded up your in boxes with the same message. My computer decided to hiccup and belch at the same time and I lost control. Lucky there was nothing to hit. he he. Cheers, Ed. Ed Diehl _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 3 19:32:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A38C82D0353 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 19:32:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4FDE2C0D03 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 19:20:28 -0600 (MDT) a=kVz//Zzo0sE1iRJ/5K4ipQ==:17 a=vMSXl12t6bgA:10 a=HTnyKLupJPgA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=-fJd_4YX0FMA:10 a=XhU9DrE-ML8KpDtoJUkA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=pCSiswfmKwzV2cZbpjMA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=Mm2g_HdpPaT9Q3PhNe0A:9 a=KQqxNPgzF0kA:10 a=UcAYUTqdwbZ9ynYO:21 a=IZeUoDN9VQTH_Fm-:18 a=kVz//Zzo0sE1iRJ/5K4ipQ==:117 Received: from [98.30.73.97] ([98.30.73.97:1076] helo=Bucktailus) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 6A/E3-12302-023C5905; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 01:21:37 +0000 From: "Robert Johns" To: "FOT team" Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 21:21:39 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fw: John Fitch At Le Mans 1954 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I would like to share with you a couple of old photos of John Fitch at LeMans in 1954. This first photo is of John in the pit prior to the race looking at a Factory "D" Type. The guy in the beret and field jacket, looking at the car over his left arm is me. I will send a second photo of him on a seperate email. Bob Johns [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Lemans 1954 010.JPG] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 3 19:41:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E1E22D0699 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 19:41:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040B02D02DA for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 19:22:38 -0600 (MDT) a=kVz//Zzo0sE1iRJ/5K4ipQ==:17 a=vMSXl12t6bgA:10 a=HTnyKLupJPgA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=-fJd_4YX0FMA:10 a=1_fZFZX7auz4O1wlMrsA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=n-i6Wnm3CNH7KW53wBkA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=r688HlalbkUA:10 a=3D6L3McIv5ul3G7rWxsA:9 a=KQqxNPgzF0kA:10 a=Sf_gFPzhefAA:10 a=yefYMPYig474cv-l:21 a=d-Q4nc-ZcPe-1OEM:21 a=AXncF_vyLXCE5w1r:21 a=rjvnZjulTQY0QrRu:18 a=kVz//Zzo0sE1iRJ/5K4ipQ==:117 Received: from [98.30.73.97] ([98.30.73.97:1079] helo=Bucktailus) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 56/01-19216-F93C5905; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 01:23:45 +0000 From: "Robert Johns" To: "FOT team" Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 21:23:47 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fw: John Fitch at Le Mans 1954 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Great shot of John enjoying looking over the lastest from The Jaguar Factory. Bob Johns [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Lemans 1954 008.JPG] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 3 19:47:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45A02D0830 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 19:47:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFAA32D067F for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 19:45:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 631F72E04C for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 19:48:24 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 19:47:07 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: FOT team References: <440764EF8FAD443E9C40CD329828C8D6@Bucktailus> Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: John Fitch At Le Mans 1954 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net As you've noticed the basic mailman email lists like this one do not allow attachments. Send the photos directly to me and I'll put them where folks can see them. I'd suggest using the Team.Net forums, but they currently aren't working quite right. Hopefully I'll get that fixed soon, but the problem at the moment is some denial of service and automated spam attacks directed at various mailman sites. Computers can be so much fun. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 4 21:10:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF532D0A33 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 21:10:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BDDA2D0BAF for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 20:54:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F352E077 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 20:56:46 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 20:55:27 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: "F.O.T." Subject: [Fot] John Fitch photos Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A couple of nice pictures from LeMans. http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=132 mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 5 10:07:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8922D0C25 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 10:07:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com (mail-bk0-f41.google.com [209.85.214.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B272D0884 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 09:45:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-bk0-f41.google.com with SMTP id jm1so2519511bkc.14 for ; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 08:46:47 -0800 (PST) h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=43qgDbCg6bj1fO34/toy3CL1AepO52uji59nUErj6Jc=; b=pve70hM94Ljzu7lb7aPksHa03wDPQP6Da6EAk0JO0GAOF9QeWX2gxwQsVjEkqV4PlC gKlZ7BEaRe3cDJ+M/4vf84UWnP2yiOw4fLFX8ey1pgyv75sLxFWAKUQUEv1HFWety/wK SoS/VZTBT4CDj7UDqViFIayfPP912otyYuNckOGmVZ54dQwHBG3fkrro8Yc0trxLNnAg tqXQiOPkC1jXO3iCTFfpe8lujByhbPnr/n+gkOHkiIAlzh+5LLJCvcsxlVtwbvlpE7re +PunmYIMwQ6PiduiQ8SFHqdntWIxOB+lkAZJmOplZGOR0GAE044+VWCj5klXR5tTGEnI A/vA== Received: by 10.204.149.10 with SMTP id r10mr2428259bkv.61.1352134006894; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 08:46:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home (ip-109-84-211-25.web.vodafone.de. [109.84.211.25]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x13sm10337714bkv.16.2012.11.05.08.46.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 05 Nov 2012 08:46:46 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: "'triumph friends'" References: <440764EF8FAD443E9C40CD329828C8D6@Bucktailus> <5095C91B.8040701@bradakis.com> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 17:46:39 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac26LpS4lvJOJusJRl2HxQOcrDoykQBRkDVg Content-Language: de Subject: [Fot] Tappets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Back in time I reported about that I always grind my tappets flat as only domed ones are on the market. Today I bought a new set and was amazed that they are perfect flat, no regrind needed....have a look: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-moHnemvOoI0/UJfrIMoHBbI/AAAAAAAABjA/8qMo_ D6jbFc/s972/DSC02992.JPG https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V9PziuUrLds/UJfq-MbvNJI/AAAAAAAABi4/F98nS Om_WRw/s1079/DSC02991.JPG And the racing ones are a lot shorter. Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 5 12:45:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10AD82D0C68 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 12:45:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail5.pem.dotster.com (mail5.dotsterhost.com [72.5.54.239]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 059FE2D0B7E for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 12:29:57 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 2006 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2012 19:31:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zap6) (list@mackenzie.aero@[70.253.93.209]) by 72.5.54.239 with SMTP; 5 Nov 2012 19:31:08 -0000 From: "Robert MacKenzie" To: "'FOT List'" Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 13:30:49 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac27jA+2EBbr2C5LQI2mwlnVbj9etA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Autocross Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I thought I should share some video from an Autocross I ran yesterday at Harris Hill Raceway in San Marcos, Texas. The car is Marsha, my much abused '78 Spitfire. She suffered with a miss-fire coming out of the sweepers; could this be a float bowl level issue? http://youtu.be/9RSIp8h8-TM Robert MacKenzie Austin Texas '78 1500 (street) '71 GT6 MKIII (project) '62 Spitfire 4 (race) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 5 14:36:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57202D0C4F for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 14:36:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm18.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm18.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.88]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF692D0B1A for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 14:11:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.91.70] by nm18.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Nov 2012 21:12:19 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.85] by tm10.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Nov 2012 21:12:19 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1022.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Nov 2012 21:12:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 66896 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Nov 2012 21:12:19 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352149939; bh=j+Y/eDHgtBQy2Ztu3Er/HCAay6bCafGSiT9x7B1xdDo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mEEtT3yHcFrYELArikFtapuR+cEIRf6Z3QUxkGK0s7+od9zXlNjJA0coHAY0SFLjngsSRcOsL+yUP3dx17rgulV02jb52Uu4KtrF8wYO1FZnmuYhKAGKMpVLHRNMI20AfWVfLpiXiCXuVc18jAE4yCCcQLeJ5r8sasP37xvpSxI= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=iPro/8Af2CczLDeTofAxAmsfUaot+vT6dOwDiipdmrBvBlCLZvNPqCnbS1gNEqvPzDW7kU/Edkd39qLMvvwwnxFQ1cTP6SN0fkopJ6CXUbup1XItvXmc0dUNxHikKKFlFSy21IYN2t+GxluKqaD0vqldw97cRNdFkOP3WAs7WxY=; _l7ctttj4T5bmDRORDwbSoe2naN_QlfKcHHkpeRjqpHOrxb4auJXNAbgIZQ9 6Bx5T.Jms8StMbapV2wVd5.B1.jfzmsmRXntY0FQ6B4YNrfLZZFIVWpsD4Ll qiNSDLjb.Bv12QGTuMi2HfybmX4QCf6mPSHzmQ2pYFzSdtRO3ml843NPC1zZ JN_ofHfj_eBA1ebhSXR2X1T6.3mZXbEszoQiyCW9rnhNsWoKtNGUL7911FSR Xh8nsZ47j49ssWatE8lD1B5ybSAE55YaGTcrq5oqmwkquARLlNMmVMyWbS__ ZKNN3speW8h0J1S58R_DipP3JAhLtKsOTH6rQ9zZoAk9X3wVlxTg35o.zLxF 8MqA2v2CYS_Pm.JP7sHi8BO6jRkwNsp51MSUI9pWxE1bIrBJJyIcuYg7JAQ. Yc3pzl6bQ0TF2cxQFtUrVoMPFelWXLa8Gg8nDrNDgckwaxtOukn.lVYdx Received: from [98.137.27.129] by web184801.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 13:12:19 PST UmVhZGluZyBvdGhlciBwbGFjZXMgb24gY3JhbmtjYXNlIGV2YWN1YXRpb24sIEkgc2VlIHRoZSBhcmd1bWVudCBtYWRlIGFnYWluc3QgCnVzaW5nIHRoZSBjYXJicyBvciBpbnRha2UgbWFuaWZvbGQgdG8gZXZhY3VhdGUgdGhlIGNyYW5rY2FzZSBzaW5jZSBpdCBpcyBpbiAKYWZmZWN0IGEgdmFjdXVtIGxlYWsgaW50cm9kdWNlZC7CoCBXaGlsZSBpdCBtYXkgYmUgYSBwb3NpdGl2ZSB0byBoYXZlIHRoZSB3YXJtZXIgCmdhc2VzIHRvIGJ1cm4gaWYgdGhlcmUgYXJlIHNvbGlkcyAob2lsKSBhbmQgYSBsb3NzIG8BMAEBAQE- References: <6E2BB0D7-8358-4006-BF17-2686E31BCBFF@me.com> <5F0353EDDBF04275940ED0DAFB9BA433@ComputerPC> <0E1F9EDC-E456-46CE-9032-AD2B29B2FD4C@bnj.com> <001901cdb073$f1838b70$d48aa250$@com> <8CF7EC616D26478-CA8-1CE56@Webmail-m119.sysops.aol.com> <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C7402FFE9FA@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com> <001a01cdb112$0ff4c6c0$2fde5440$@com> <1351551873.16227.YahooMailRC@web184805.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <9815E22E-0CF7-4E38-B0A7-7BD26A8814BC@seiri.com> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 13:12:19 -0800 (PST) From: sherry robyn To: Triumph 'Friends ofTriumph' Subject: [Fot] Is anyone using a vacuum pump to evacuate the crankcase? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Reading other places on crankcase evacuation, I see the argument made against using the carbs or intake manifold to evacuate the crankcase since it is in affect a vacuum leak introduced. While it may be a positive to have the warmer gases to burn if there are solids (oil) and a loss of power due to loss of vacuum, maybe the ideal setup would be vacuum pump to an oil separator and oil separator back to crankcase. I would appreciate any thoughts on this. Jim _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 5 15:05:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3132D0BE5 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 15:05:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com (mail-bk0-f41.google.com [209.85.214.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5BB82D0AAE for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 14:50:16 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-bk0-f41.google.com with SMTP id jm1so2654951bkc.14 for ; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 13:51:27 -0800 (PST) h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=x+HGyY6iXw/OGaGyd6d7w+mYQlwsz96CDeXIVjxlN2c=; b=Ygr8JG8JA+ABjSnzrx7K8CKAdpebNeKtHwEgpUUY4932xqGoU/D12/1yWN78iJbEAH cNTXPLNHX8bNM7is3MeL3jra/Tyn7qVQnkU5VmY0b2yXj++/Djwlflwjl8c7R5JulCkx IGAQX220Unm0b9U+aLdXJN0xy+UXOS2/LbXiM6QUHF0GhK2RVRvoxt584omkEOTUeblw sIY6qdYtQZd4htg6VvFMTeixMaZAjOFGLrUabv2QBjCUwrpkwwtE85QfV6tnFRDBzfLR KQHt3iJCR/wOoaH3nHCDK7OtsPmLCMrsFTydTQ5dCRhGLhDb9cq6ZLfoS8PEuTVkO6cb QG5A== Received: by 10.204.3.220 with SMTP id 28mr2666244bko.87.1352152287390; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 13:51:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home (ip-109-84-211-25.web.vodafone.de. [109.84.211.25]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ia2sm10857730bkc.11.2012.11.05.13.51.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 05 Nov 2012 13:51:26 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: "'sherry robyn'" , "'Triumph 'Friends ofTriumph''" References: <6E2BB0D7-8358-4006-BF17-2686E31BCBFF@me.com> <5F0353EDDBF04275940ED0DAFB9BA433@ComputerPC> <0E1F9EDC-E456-46CE-9032-AD2B29B2FD4C@bnj.com> <001901cdb073$f1838b70$d48aa250$@com> <8CF7EC616D26478-CA8-1CE56@Webmail-m119.sysops.aol.com> <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C7402FFE9FA@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com> <001a01cdb112$0ff4c6c0$2fde5440$@com> <1351551873.16227.YahooMailRC@web184805.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <9815E22E-0CF7-4E38-B0A7-7BD26A8814BC@seiri.com> <1352149939.28156.YahooMailRC@web184801.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 22:51:08 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac27nc5b4U2eRqpMRLWYJCPf8JPI5wAAS5bw Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Is anyone using a vacuum pump to evacuate the crankcase? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I use a evacuation system to the exhaust. Unfortunately the valves on the market failed 3 times so I made a duty heavy version. This is the Moroso version: http://www.moroso.com/catalog/categorydisplay.asp?catcode=13023 My version looks like this: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-PuuLY_iCrug/UESoEDxFTnI/AAAAAAAABZo/xFLZr p-IiCg/s919/Saarbr%C3%BCcken-20120828-00175.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-fEQ_hpneNe0/UESoNk8sIEI/AAAAAAAABZw/xlwAk ULsBvQ/s919/Kleinblittersdorf-20120828-00176.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-PuuLY_iCrug/UESoEDxFTnI/AAAAAAAABZo/xFLZr p-IiCg/s919/Saarbr%C3%BCcken-20120828-00175.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-fEQ_hpneNe0/UESoNk8sIEI/AAAAAAAABZw/xlwAk ULsBvQ/s919/Kleinblittersdorf-20120828-00176.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tEf8uoPfIBo/UJJmlQug4SI/AAAAAAAABhI/GcSEH 3d4wnU/s972/20121101_130726.jpg Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von sherry robyn Gesendet: Montag, 5. November 2012 22:12 An: Triumph 'Friends ofTriumph' Betreff: [Fot] Is anyone using a vacuum pump to evacuate the crankcase? Reading other places on crankcase evacuation, I see the argument made against using the carbs or intake manifold to evacuate the crankcase since it is in affect a vacuum leak introduced. While it may be a positive to have the warmer gases to burn if there are solids (oil) and a loss of power due to loss of vacuum, maybe the ideal setup would be vacuum pump to an oil separator and oil separator back to crankcase. I would appreciate any thoughts on this. Jim _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image002.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image003.jpg] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 5 15:50:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE702D0B60 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 15:50:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail201c2.megamailservers.com (mail201c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEFB12D0B3B for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 15:28:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.241.8.48] (30.sub-174-228-64.myvzw.com [174.228.64.30]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail201c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id qA5MU6pI011655 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 5 Nov 2012 17:30:08 -0500 References: <6E2BB0D7-8358-4006-BF17-2686E31BCBFF@me.com> <5F0353EDDBF04275940ED0DAFB9BA433@ComputerPC> <0E1F9EDC-E456-46CE-9032-AD2B29B2FD4C@bnj.com> <001901cdb073$f1838b70$d48aa250$@com> <8CF7EC616D26478-CA8-1CE56@Webmail-m119.sysops.aol.com> <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C7402FFE9FA@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com> <001a01cdb112$0ff4c6c0$2fde5440$@com> <1351551873.16227.YahooMailRC@web184805.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <9815E22E-0CF7-4E38-B0A7-7BD26A8814BC@seiri.com> <1352149939.28156.YahooMailRC@web184801.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <004201cdbb9f$ac29b0e0$047d12a0$@com> From: John Hasty Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 17:30:04 -0500 To: MadMarx a=Raphmx4uLBgA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=GXB/EkkEZumjpZ+B7ZZXbg==:17 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=zEK_DtS_AAAA:8 a=eypaTzzcAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=aChnTFRIUF5JiKPITe0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=fcEXRE-UJnoA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=jUrkteJeiPYA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=GXB/EkkEZumjpZ+B7ZZXbg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: Triumph 'Friends ofTriumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Is anyone using a vacuum pump to evacuate the crankcase? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net They are illegal in all the sanction bodies over here Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2012, at 4:51 PM, "MadMarx" wrote: > I use a evacuation system to the exhaust. > > Unfortunately the valves on the market failed 3 times so I made a duty heavy > version. > > This is the Moroso version: > > http://www.moroso.com/catalog/categorydisplay.asp?catcode=13023 > > > > My version looks like this: > > https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-PuuLY_iCrug/UESoEDxFTnI/AAAAAAAABZo/xFLZr > p-IiCg/s919/Saarbr%C3%BCcken-20120828-00175.jpg > > > > https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-fEQ_hpneNe0/UESoNk8sIEI/AAAAAAAABZw/xlwAk > ULsBvQ/s919/Kleinblittersdorf-20120828-00176.jpg > > > > https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-PuuLY_iCrug/UESoEDxFTnI/AAAAAAAABZo/xFLZr > p-IiCg/s919/Saarbr%C3%BCcken-20120828-00175.jpg > > > > https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-fEQ_hpneNe0/UESoNk8sIEI/AAAAAAAABZw/xlwAk > ULsBvQ/s919/Kleinblittersdorf-20120828-00176.jpg > > > > https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tEf8uoPfIBo/UJJmlQug4SI/AAAAAAAABhI/GcSEH > 3d4wnU/s972/20121101_130726.jpg > > > > Cheers > > Chris > > > > > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im > Auftrag von sherry robyn > Gesendet: Montag, 5. November 2012 22:12 > An: Triumph 'Friends ofTriumph' > Betreff: [Fot] Is anyone using a vacuum pump to evacuate the crankcase? > > > > Reading other places on crankcase evacuation, I see the argument made > against using the carbs or intake manifold to evacuate the crankcase since > it is in affect a vacuum leak introduced. While it may be a positive to > have the warmer gases to burn if there are solids (oil) and a loss of power > due to loss of vacuum, maybe the ideal setup would be vacuum pump to an oil > separator and oil separator back to crankcase. I would appreciate any > thoughts on this. Jim _______________________________________________ > > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image002.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image003.jpg] > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 5 15:53:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA1B2D0CC1 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 15:53:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com (mail-bk0-f41.google.com [209.85.214.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EB2E2D0AD8 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 15:33:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-bk0-f41.google.com with SMTP id jm1so2665748bkc.14 for ; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 14:34:42 -0800 (PST) h=from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=ofV7ppf/1TlRHpkQHv8KO9knk6PcX7yjZbqZO0RLOhc=; b=gIIUgJV4qRy+Ad9XbFhkX6u57nDr1FAszG3JHUoqezhIhWNayVPftdBEHaQNG7hk8g dKmwfXi8u+YLngOCSrUHuQ41fxXMoHDpbi+SZaYEK3MLowF+ssniiWesdTUOyRkbcmVh 6RoahJzxpomzzvh7kKtMSpbF0FFbaK6x8iZ//Gr0lJUAYZwad6BYc26fljBvlwgFzAp6 tEyYIiOdAd4Qgre6/G6cvDAazeu/SWcFdxce6xdyxEIiOcjw8o9tg9U7xyuV0wm+jdOz XPvsnYHYZtQHVwSGhQ/yucFbjrPngrARq3TsSV8F4wEA+LDEcKm/S0TFeN+zGiP2lk44 5hDw== Received: by 10.204.3.214 with SMTP id 22mr2657410bko.108.1352154882605; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 14:34:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home (ip-109-84-211-25.web.vodafone.de. [109.84.211.25]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e3sm10869779bks.7.2012.11.05.14.34.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 05 Nov 2012 14:34:42 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: "'John Hasty'" References: <6E2BB0D7-8358-4006-BF17-2686E31BCBFF@me.com> <5F0353EDDBF04275940ED0DAFB9BA433@ComputerPC> <0E1F9EDC-E456-46CE-9032-AD2B29B2FD4C@bnj.com> <001901cdb073$f1838b70$d48aa250$@com> <8CF7EC616D26478-CA8-1CE56@Webmail-m119.sysops.aol.com> <3D19C37868680F46BA3E66A8945C9C7402FFE9FA@svr-exch01.mccarty-law.com> <001a01cdb112$0ff4c6c0$2fde5440$@com> <1351551873.16227.YahooMailRC@web184805.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <9815E22E-0CF7-4E38-B0A7-7BD26A8814BC@seiri.com> <1352149939.28156.YahooMailRC@web184801.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <004201cdbb9f$ac29b0e0$047d12a0$@com> <4393B193-977D-46B7-BBB2-EBC0C6B0B454@gdhs.com> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 23:34:35 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac27pSBUldBSJhTfQ+e2320UMsa6eAAAIrbw Content-Language: de Cc: 'Triumph 'Friends ofTriumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Is anyone using a vacuum pump to evacuate the crankcase? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Psst....tell nobody. -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: John Hasty [mailto:jhhasty@gdhs.com] Gesendet: Montag, 5. November 2012 23:30 An: MadMarx Cc: sherry robyn; Triumph 'Friends ofTriumph Betreff: Re: [Fot] Is anyone using a vacuum pump to evacuate the crankcase? They are illegal in all the sanction bodies over here Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2012, at 4:51 PM, "MadMarx" wrote: > I use a evacuation system to the exhaust. > > Unfortunately the valves on the market failed 3 times so I made a duty > heavy version. > > This is the Moroso version: > > http://www.moroso.com/catalog/categorydisplay.asp?catcode=13023 > > > > My version looks like this: > > https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-PuuLY_iCrug/UESoEDxFTnI/AAAAAAAABZo > /xFLZr p-IiCg/s919/Saarbr%C3%BCcken-20120828-00175.jpg > > > > https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-fEQ_hpneNe0/UESoNk8sIEI/AAAAAAAABZw > /xlwAk ULsBvQ/s919/Kleinblittersdorf-20120828-00176.jpg > > > > https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-PuuLY_iCrug/UESoEDxFTnI/AAAAAAAABZo > /xFLZr p-IiCg/s919/Saarbr%C3%BCcken-20120828-00175.jpg > > > > https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-fEQ_hpneNe0/UESoNk8sIEI/AAAAAAAABZw > /xlwAk ULsBvQ/s919/Kleinblittersdorf-20120828-00176.jpg > > > > https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tEf8uoPfIBo/UJJmlQug4SI/AAAAAAAABhI > /GcSEH > 3d4wnU/s972/20121101_130726.jpg > > > > Cheers > > Chris > > > > > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im > Auftrag von sherry robyn > Gesendet: Montag, 5. November 2012 22:12 > An: Triumph 'Friends ofTriumph' > Betreff: [Fot] Is anyone using a vacuum pump to evacuate the crankcase? > > > > Reading other places on crankcase evacuation, I see the argument made > against using the carbs or intake manifold to evacuate the crankcase > since it is in affect a vacuum leak introduced. While it may be a > positive to have the warmer gases to burn if there are solids (oil) > and a loss of power due to loss of vacuum, maybe the ideal setup would > be vacuum pump to an oil separator and oil separator back to > crankcase. I would appreciate any thoughts on this. Jim > _______________________________________________ > > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a > name of image001.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a > name of image002.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a > name of image003.jpg] _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 5 16:10:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B4F32D0B19 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 16:10:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (fed1rmfepo201.cox.net [68.230.241.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2812D0AEC for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 15:43:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from fed1rmimpo209 ([68.230.241.160]) by fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20121105224432.LUGQ29577.fed1rmfepo201.cox.net@fed1rmimpo209> for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 17:44:32 -0500 Received: from Vista ([68.110.89.224]) by fed1rmimpo209 with cox id KykY1k0054qRjhw01ykYBr; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 17:44:32 -0500 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:17 a=eyVsC602P24A:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=GsgvQADmpiEA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=jJrOw3FHAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=jSYr6YjS8mGrhUk7JF8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=FU4QsWcZpzsA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: "'Robert MacKenzie'" , "'FOT List'" References: <001801cdbb8c$1058e810$310ab830$@aero> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 15:44:36 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac27jA+2EBbr2C5LQI2mwlnVbj9etAAGwNRA Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Autocross Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Now that's what I call a "Real" autocross. Joe -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert MacKenzie Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 12:31 PM To: 'FOT List' Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Autocross Video I thought I should share some video from an Autocross I ran yesterday at Harris Hill Raceway in San Marcos, Texas. The car is Marsha, my much abused '78 Spitfire. She suffered with a miss-fire coming out of the sweepers; could this be a float bowl level issue? http://youtu.be/9RSIp8h8-TM Robert MacKenzie Austin Texas '78 1500 (street) '71 GT6 MKIII (project) '62 Spitfire 4 (race) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 5 16:23:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35072D0B35 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 16:23:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail5.pem.dotster.com (mail5.dotsterhost.com [72.5.54.239]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C42D2D0AA1 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 16:05:22 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 14147 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2012 23:06:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zap6) (list@mackenzie.aero@[70.253.93.209]) by 72.5.54.239 with SMTP; 5 Nov 2012 23:06:34 -0000 From: "Robert MacKenzie" To: "'FOT List'" Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 17:06:15 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac27p2FNzASmxk8ATieZr8bbrXHXpQAAox8g Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] FW: Spitfire Autocross Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The course was laid out specifically to keep speeds down. I am running dual SU4s. RM -----Original Message----- From: marty sukey [mailto:trmarty@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 4:46 PM To: list@mackenzie.aero Subject: RE: [Fot] Spitfire Autocross Video Cool, it would be tempting to skip the cones and take a DNF on my last run just to do a full lap at speed. :) What carbs you running? I could not make the left turn stutter go away on my TR6 until I dumped the ZS and went S.U. Marty ---------------------------------------- > From: list@mackenzie.aero > To: fot@autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 13:30:49 -0600 > Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Autocross Video > > I thought I should share some video from an Autocross I ran yesterday > at Harris Hill Raceway in San Marcos, Texas. > > The car is Marsha, my much abused '78 Spitfire. She suffered with a > miss-fire coming out of the sweepers; could this be a float bowl level > issue? > > http://youtu.be/9RSIp8h8-TM > > > Robert MacKenzie > Austin Texas > '78 1500 (street) > '71 GT6 MKIII (project) > '62 Spitfire 4 (race) > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com > > = _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 5 16:53:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2EF2D0C6E for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 16:53:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E472D0A77 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 16:36:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20121105233802.VTFS4251.mta11.charter.net@imp11> for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 18:38:02 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([24.231.194.49]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id Kze11k00E14R4eo05ze2RC; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 18:38:02 -0500 cv=Mv9Cy8NsQItTEAHnXr6fCNbI23lcrkmyMeqLv9HU3yU= c=1 sm=1 a=G2Hrq8H__dgA:10 a=eyVsC602P24A:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=pqI+vdes0DpKFPsz35vwQA==:17 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=jJrOw3FHAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=SHwrjaTOMaTZvRb-iesA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=FU4QsWcZpzsA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=pqI+vdes0DpKFPsz35vwQA==:117 Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 18:38:02 -0500 From: Glenn Franco User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <001801cdbb8c$1058e810$310ab830$@aero> Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Autocross Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I concur That's the best autocross I have seen! Glenn On 11/5/2012 5:44 PM, Joe Curry wrote: > Now that's what I call a "Real" autocross. > > Joe > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Robert MacKenzie > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 12:31 PM > To: 'FOT List' > Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Autocross Video > > I thought I should share some video from an Autocross I ran yesterday at > Harris Hill Raceway in San Marcos, Texas. > > The car is Marsha, my much abused '78 Spitfire. She suffered with a > miss-fire coming out of the sweepers; could this be a float bowl level > issue? > > http://youtu.be/9RSIp8h8-TM > > > Robert MacKenzie > Austin Texas > '78 1500 (street) > '71 GT6 MKIII (project) > '62 Spitfire 4 (race) > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist@cox.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gaf3@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 5 17:09:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4FC72D0B56 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 17:09:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f169.google.com (mail-ob0-f169.google.com [209.85.214.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35EF2D0AE1 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 16:52:11 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ob0-f169.google.com with SMTP id va7so7705282obc.14 for ; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 15:53:23 -0800 (PST) h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=7ZBBfSx9ha9/WDHiLKGOKn3C8B9yiXRW6bSb+x3iiVk=; b=p9FEQTWdoDA3UAG/r4EbhJNtAJyQ44ye1AM9AKODk8LqC0Bphwqipwlwm6fcaapapU KLoC19hDflzKelu2Q3Vv1bkSfIh7U3z1/SmuvNJnQyuujlZo1epgY9xENNCY9SNnkfl2 r7Ex63yBb/EtJQQ/sfrTzIgbFQpeXGzBlmK6KujSjoBBj1v+uCI4DhRjt4pplXg2XES0 aQfky4fpi5dXRo9WVsCRb8wArCT8b/9QysIqbRkgDFHV0BUYa+pthWqzXCQoeHExWRbg ITifS3ZNmUb2JKQ+dDSqRlTw89RsIVNKTI6OAixyUzu/EtkllmevUhmoEaUU8PxfowZ6 /zhA== Received: by 10.60.13.198 with SMTP id j6mr9257162oec.51.1352159603277; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 15:53:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.7] (client-69.170.103.221.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.221]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k9sm14989865oeg.6.2012.11.05.15.53.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 05 Nov 2012 15:53:22 -0800 (PST) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 17:53:15 -0600 References: <001801cdbb8c$1058e810$310ab830$@aero> To: Robert MacKenzie Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Autocross Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Didja bop any cones? I thought I heard one in the slalom on the last straight. I assume your SUs have floats that hinge on one side. If so, which way are your float hinges oriented? Laterally or longitudinal to the car? The better situation would be if the axis of the hinge pin is lateral so that fuel slosh in cornering would have little effect on the fuel level seen by the float during cornering. Duncan Charlton Elgin, TX On Nov 5, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Robert MacKenzie wrote: > I thought I should share some video from an Autocross I ran yesterday at > Harris Hill Raceway in San Marcos, Texas. > > The car is Marsha, my much abused '78 Spitfire. She suffered with a > miss-fire coming out of the sweepers; could this be a float bowl level > issue? > > http://youtu.be/9RSIp8h8-TM > > > Robert MacKenzie > Austin Texas > '78 1500 (street) > '71 GT6 MKIII (project) > '62 Spitfire 4 (race) > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 5 17:24:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82DB32D0B3B for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 17:24:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail5.pem.dotster.com (mail5.dotsterhost.com [72.5.54.239]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5DA2D0A91 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 16:55:08 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 18042 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2012 23:56:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zap6) (list@mackenzie.aero@[70.253.93.209]) by 72.5.54.239 with SMTP; 5 Nov 2012 23:56:19 -0000 From: "Robert MacKenzie" To: "'Duncan Charlton'" References: <001801cdbb8c$1058e810$310ab830$@aero> <6CEED6C9-E929-4D11-80B0-CE175832F9ED@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 17:56:01 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac27sL4Bnmx7Qmz9RQiPSl37kMQqIwAADcNg Content-Language: en-us Cc: 'Triumph 'Friends of Triumph'' Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Autocross Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net What you heard was the last cone of the last slalom on the last run jumping in front of my car. R -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton [mailto:duncan.charlton54@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 5:53 PM To: Robert MacKenzie Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Autocross Video Didja bop any cones? I thought I heard one in the slalom on the last straight. I assume your SUs have floats that hinge on one side. If so, which way are your float hinges oriented? Laterally or longitudinal to the car? The better situation would be if the axis of the hinge pin is lateral so that fuel slosh in cornering would have little effect on the fuel level seen by the float during cornering. Duncan Charlton Elgin, TX On Nov 5, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Robert MacKenzie wrote: > I thought I should share some video from an Autocross I ran yesterday > at Harris Hill Raceway in San Marcos, Texas. > > The car is Marsha, my much abused '78 Spitfire. She suffered with a > miss-fire coming out of the sweepers; could this be a float bowl level > issue? > > http://youtu.be/9RSIp8h8-TM > > > Robert MacKenzie > Austin Texas > '78 1500 (street) > '71 GT6 MKIII (project) > '62 Spitfire 4 (race) > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 5 17:26:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632F32D0CD2 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 17:26:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.162]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D0D062D0B83 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 17:10:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.151] by nm19.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Nov 2012 00:11:15 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.237] by tm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Nov 2012 00:11:15 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1046.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Nov 2012 00:11:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 97996 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Nov 2012 00:11:15 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352160675; bh=EUr9yZGOay2puEXDeu6bTqf4gfkRBAzobCU1QgCYctQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=XlxmkQOz2L+5BwKtD+8B2ybQR9afSuPwxMmnYU1NXOREtTbSEKR9VMyfGSZskwacKuAp/Vu1mNeP4PeE2KzwOnnImbp/ho0KrTw+WS5IkVtvilYMtzRU6qNVaSiK1jz3rqL4blVgd4hGsPSAP5s65ztzQ9Cy2T/rm+/EL1Cy0yg= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=EU4HAu0PajydZAhzsIJB+fnABB8zzFA/b5r2AXBj5j83cUeTgMDMhJ90H+vbyGd/HgIN5t0Rq2UcZt0HJHjSLMGnlDQ18wbuXBp0bT0svnmbP2RJGobs6BVvr5nWyCJpZTxR+p2ymT3tP2XRMZ8pU1I4W5C7XGA5G62aVdyMQAo=; IvTCsrdbubLTe0xqHr0jcQboQGtdUMC4rvYcObW0LmAaIkK5FuQrtwJ6s6Xu LafTdWs7GJiA8porHHeGGm39jan.pDN6BA3b0Spgzq0JmpFAKDNRlwElNMj0 8t4v9ASqtpHOkwaRi6iulucidCI4LibRr9pbXMPSIfi7i23aG.MQWjw7ZEjV cuzd57pnT_fnC26W.u1KQY7vM0bjmlnqUdtkWzEZU7bM2iYDDmUv2mqL1ROX cgshhxkayT9cYx4DULiJIDguAt4QZvoeJeWcFN2eBfwe3sEczsHpfdiie8SV 3c3_nZzfHF6FlWqtic9rTO4WljmT5rmV_1bx1mjwwu0xiq6qe1jq9ZMyruSI w8Q20sTelyfr0NpK1kN2Xfgcy_80cl7kkB4Qfz_GiA0rjq835iHl2keDj_e8 IvYTXOLWIuSQTYVofCnNjxPUOBgOBH5BSeyiK232KybBWx_.b5Ef2rlc_kbn PCr4euZ65tcZpOIdIog2c1vwp62W_Gg5xBfgUl3bn6XKc1AxojUFn6YT1kxy GwnDPIteQ8g3goEF4FmRT_k70lr4egR2R_xMCaMyCapVhVvUekRfVw4TraS7 tD5ioiuqVM3Uk9fmb1Q.8a3FwHCKPUFsIPcmPlGhzQRo3kFCBuxtNqy5lNT3 IDxZT7cYwlpmoJSIw7Dh_0JYd7Ts0WjzDmzzGZYdELbP.X7ac2Cf9Hu6dRie cNwLY0zepupX.B7.XVKlz3uwnilAp_n6i7NlnVzCn0ik1c_b. Received: from [99.71.100.143] by web162202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 16:11:15 PST SSdtIHN1cmUgeW91IGNvdWxkIHNjdmFuZ2UgdGhlIGdhc2VzIHdpdGggdGhlIGV4aGF1c3QuIERyYWcgcmFjZXMgZG8gaXQuDQpHdXkgTW9ydGVyDQpWaW50YWdlIEF1dG8gU2VydmljZQ0KMjYyIDU3MyA0NTExDQoNCkZsYXRoZWFkcyBGb3JldmVyIQ0KDQoNCi0tLSBPbiBNb24sIDExLzUvMTIsIE1hZE1hcnggPHRyNHJhY2luZ0Bnb29nbGVtYWlsLmNvbT4gd3JvdGU6DQoNCj4gRnJvbTogTWFkTWFyeCA8dHI0cmFjaW5nQGdvb2dsZW1haWwuY29tPg0KPiBTdWJqZWN0OiBSZTogW0ZvdF0gSXMgYW55b25lIHUBMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 16:11:15 -0800 (PST) From: Guy Morter To: 'John Hasty' , MadMarx Cc: 'Triumph 'Friends ofTriumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Is anyone using a vacuum pump to evacuate the crankcase? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm sure you could scvange the gases with the exhaust. Drag races do it. Guy Morter Vintage Auto Service 262 573 4511 Flatheads Forever! --- On Mon, 11/5/12, MadMarx wrote: > From: MadMarx > Subject: Re: [Fot] Is anyone using a vacuum pump to evacuate the crankcase? > To: "'John Hasty'" > Cc: "'Triumph 'Friends ofTriumph'" > Date: Monday, November 5, 2012, 10:34 PM > Psst....tell nobody. > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: John Hasty [mailto:jhhasty@gdhs.com] > Gesendet: Montag, 5. November 2012 23:30 > An: MadMarx > Cc: sherry robyn; Triumph 'Friends ofTriumph > Betreff: Re: [Fot] Is anyone using a vacuum pump to evacuate > the crankcase? > > They are illegal in all the sanction bodies over here > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 5, 2012, at 4:51 PM, "MadMarx" > wrote: > > > I use a evacuation system to the exhaust. > > > > Unfortunately the valves on the market failed 3 times > so I made a duty > > heavy version. > > > > This is the Moroso version: > > > > http://www.moroso.com/catalog/categorydisplay.asp?catcode=13023 > > > > > > > > My version looks like this: > > > > https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-PuuLY_iCrug/UESoEDxFTnI/AAAAAAAABZo > > /xFLZr p-IiCg/s919/Saarbr%C3%BCcken-20120828-00175.jpg > > > > > > > > https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-fEQ_hpneNe0/UESoNk8sIEI/AAAAAAAABZw > > /xlwAk > ULsBvQ/s919/Kleinblittersdorf-20120828-00176.jpg > > > > > > > > https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-PuuLY_iCrug/UESoEDxFTnI/AAAAAAAABZo > > /xFLZr p-IiCg/s919/Saarbr%C3%BCcken-20120828-00175.jpg > > > > > > > > https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-fEQ_hpneNe0/UESoNk8sIEI/AAAAAAAABZw > > /xlwAk > ULsBvQ/s919/Kleinblittersdorf-20120828-00176.jpg > > > > > > > > https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tEf8uoPfIBo/UJJmlQug4SI/AAAAAAAABhI > > /GcSEH > > 3d4wnU/s972/20121101_130726.jpg > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] > Im > > Auftrag von sherry robyn > > Gesendet: Montag, 5. November 2012 22:12 > > An: Triumph 'Friends ofTriumph' > > Betreff: [Fot] Is anyone using a vacuum pump to > evacuate the crankcase? > > > > > > > > Reading other places on crankcase evacuation, I see the > argument made > > against using the carbs or intake manifold to evacuate > the crankcase > > since it is in affect a vacuum leak introduced. > While it may be a > > positive to have the warmer gases to burn if there are > solids (oil) > > and a loss of power due to loss of vacuum, maybe the > ideal setup would > > be vacuum pump to an oil separator and oil separator > back to > > crankcase. I would appreciate any thoughts on > this. Jim > > _______________________________________________ > > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > > > > > Donate: > > http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Unsubscribe: > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com > > > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg > which had a > > name of image001.jpg] > > > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg > which had a > > name of image002.jpg] > > > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg > which had a > > name of image003.jpg] > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vintageautoservice@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 5 17:44:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096F52D0C5D for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 17:44:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 514AD2D0C6E for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 17:26:30 -0700 (MST) a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:17 a=a1-zNaUMPu0A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=rkxWZbj34qkA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=eypaTzzcAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=M8Z-yqgQP7p0a27SP6UA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=dWPQ3aLEKINN8Gn1:21 a=NylRLCBRaJx5hXoN:21 a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:117 Received: from [75.86.207.181] ([75.86.207.181:62621] helo=HPLaptop) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id BA/59-14780-D7958905; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 00:27:42 +0000 From: "Steve Yott" To: "'MadMarx'" , "'triumph friends'" Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 18:27:41 -0600 Organization: Silver Lake Triumphs Thread-Index: Ac26LpS4lvJOJusJRl2HxQOcrDoykQBRkDVgAA/vnIA= Subject: Re: [Fot] Tappets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This could be a fun thread.... I learned many years ago that flat tappets were intentionally made with a very slight crown which helps establish rotation of the tappet while riding on the camshaft. The cam lobe is normally offset from the centerline of the tappet in order to help with the rotation of the tappet also. There are several companies here that grind tappets and all that I know of grind a crown on them. I would like to hear what the rest of the masses have to say about this subject as I am always ready to learn! Steve Yott -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of MadMarx Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 10:47 AM To: 'triumph friends' Subject: [Fot] Tappets Back in time I reported about that I always grind my tappets flat as only domed ones are on the market. Today I bought a new set and was amazed that they are perfect flat, no regrind needed....have a look: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-moHnemvOoI0/UJfrIMoHBbI/AAAAAAAABjA/8qMo_ D6jbFc/s972/DSC02992.JPG https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V9PziuUrLds/UJfq-MbvNJI/AAAAAAAABi4/F98nS Om_WRw/s1079/DSC02991.JPG And the racing ones are a lot shorter. Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 5 18:11:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A982D0A55 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 18:11:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.70]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 815172D0AD4 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 17:52:58 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=D56sfqVx+jlO/ABpKeGrxmkdikgb6Zh2gIBdSO2S0LyYDVlmtb6HpfsxYo+pC0Sl; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.26] (helo=mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TVXQf-0003kU-HK for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 19:54:09 -0500 Received: from 108.64.186.7 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 19:54:09 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 16:54:09 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: steve To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Tappets Tons of info on the list archives Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This has been discussed A LOT. Read here: http://www.team.net/mharc/archives/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=lifters&submit=Search!&idxname=fot&max=10&result=normal&sort=score and here: http://www.team.net/mharc/archives/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=tappets&submit=Search!&idxname=fot&max=10&result=normal&sort=score ~Steve -----Original Message----- >From: Steve Yott >Sent: Nov 5, 2012 4:27 PM >To: 'MadMarx' , 'triumph friends' >Subject: Re: [Fot] Tappets > >This could be a fun thread.... I learned many years ago that flat tappets >were intentionally made with a very slight crown which helps establish >rotation of the tappet while riding on the camshaft. The cam lobe is >normally offset from the centerline of the tappet in order to help with the >rotation of the tappet also. There are several companies here that grind >tappets and all that I know of grind a crown on them. > >I would like to hear what the rest of the masses have to say about this >subject as I am always ready to learn! > >Steve Yott > >-----Original Message----- >From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On >Behalf Of MadMarx >Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 10:47 AM >To: 'triumph friends' >Subject: [Fot] Tappets > >Back in time I reported about that I always grind my tappets flat as only >domed ones are on the market. > >Today I bought a new set and was amazed that they are perfect flat, no >regrind needed....have a look: > >https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-moHnemvOoI0/UJfrIMoHBbI/AAAAAAAABjA/8qMo_ >D6jbFc/s972/DSC02992.JPG > >https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V9PziuUrLds/UJfq-MbvNJI/AAAAAAAABi4/F98nS >Om_WRw/s1079/DSC02991.JPG > >And the racing ones are a lot shorter. > >Cheers >Chris >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 5 18:42:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C742D0B37 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 18:42:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86702D09E5 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 18:23:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.20]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id KpZV1k0080S2fkCA31QBr4; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 01:24:11 +0000 Received: from locutus ([75.70.96.161]) by omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id L1Q71k00U3UuT0T8V1QBob; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 01:24:11 +0000 From: "Jim Gray" To: "'sherry robyn'" Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 18:15:03 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac27ndYbL5u5OBm/QZmI0KuBjIPU4wAHa6ww Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Is anyone using a vacuum pump to evacuate the crankcase? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net One of my local speed shops sells a 12Volt vacuum pump just for that reason. I understand it's a GM part. I've heard of cars that pull 11in. of vacuum. In those cases some reverse their oil seals or it pulls air into the system. I had considered it and still haven't given up on it yet. I have a sealed system and use the Moroso exhaust extractor which works really good. I can actually measure vacuum at my valve cover filler cap. Unfortunately it pegs my gauge so I can't offer up a number. jim g -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of sherry robyn Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 2:12 PM To: Triumph 'Friends ofTriumph' Subject: [Fot] Is anyone using a vacuum pump to evacuate the crankcase? Reading other places on crankcase evacuation, I see the argument made against using the carbs or intake manifold to evacuate the crankcase since it is in affect a vacuum leak introduced. While it may be a positive to have the warmer gases to burn if there are solids (oil) and a loss of power due to loss of vacuum, maybe the ideal setup would be vacuum pump to an oil separator and oil separator back to crankcase. I would appreciate any thoughts on this. Jim _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 5 19:42:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD952D0ACB for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 19:42:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail5.pem.dotster.com (mail5.dotsterhost.com [72.5.54.239]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337F02D07E7 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 19:15:32 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 28091 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2012 02:16:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zap6) (list@mackenzie.aero@[70.253.93.209]) by 72.5.54.239 with SMTP; 6 Nov 2012 02:16:42 -0000 From: "Robert MacKenzie" To: References: <001801cdbb8c$1058e810$310ab830$@aero> <50984DDA.8070809@charter.net> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 20:16:25 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac27sPYIXojai9sfT+WfOTQ8TcIpwQAE3trA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Autocross Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Here is another video of the same event. http://youtu.be/XyIvRtyVSSY In this case it is Mike Jankowski in his Spit 1500 winning the class. Robert -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Glenn Franco Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 5:38 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Autocross Video I concur That's the best autocross I have seen! Glenn On 11/5/2012 5:44 PM, Joe Curry wrote: > Now that's what I call a "Real" autocross. > > Joe > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Robert MacKenzie > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 12:31 PM > To: 'FOT List' > Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Autocross Video > > I thought I should share some video from an Autocross I ran yesterday > at Harris Hill Raceway in San Marcos, Texas. > > The car is Marsha, my much abused '78 Spitfire. She suffered with a > miss-fire coming out of the sweepers; could this be a float bowl level > issue? > > http://youtu.be/9RSIp8h8-TM > > > Robert MacKenzie > Austin Texas > '78 1500 (street) > '71 GT6 MKIII (project) > '62 Spitfire 4 (race) > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist@cox.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gaf3@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/list@mackenzie.aero _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 5 19:43:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8232D0C83 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 19:43:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com (mail-bk0-f41.google.com [209.85.214.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E132D0A6D for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 19:15:54 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-bk0-f41.google.com with SMTP id jm1so2707247bkc.14 for ; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 18:17:06 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=z58q9p/MOVJj681mBbsp8eMkZm8di8EdbbplqAFmvSk=; b=NWU7kvZrRgltrosMEuqVqy+5+X39SD0c7tsl+q3h1zaJ8QVjpbkdmme0rDKWFobOwH 3gh5etOswswghZ+aIljcv9FK4cnKtaY9Met8bCPo+iWmlLr8wO9oxtZ0dBttvDEzeUgM 1itIEs05JuUX1/O++4WoNUzx/4VZAh5pI7p6e5D5IpTewo0IyAB4OVY/enTRXQi++/4u U1uCU8Qv6sXtyPt/mJJ23cmac1okItAu/5JbQ3jjjbO4O4Gt7sJqktqPe2q1Q3eo5spo DlMsGNCRI2BqQhOnzghVl21/P81CdwPVqiOtIAUJlCRaSWaJWSGcSNG1TIekK/z/eq1a tScw== Received: by 10.204.150.211 with SMTP id z19mr2795411bkv.60.1352168226070; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 18:17:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.205.127.15 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 18:17:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 20:17:05 -0600 From: Mike Jankowski To: FOT List Subject: [Fot] A run at Harris Hill this past Sunday's autocross Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Well, I finally got around to posting the best video I had from this weekend at Harris Hill. Robert MacKenzie and I were both in FSP. I was able to take the class win by 1.49 secs over a Toyota Corolla GTS. My 78 Spit is very lightly modified: poly rear radius arm bushings, lowered front springs, Pertronix ignition, aluminium radiator, electric cooling fan, 4into 1 header, standard intermediate pipe into a Cherry Bomb muffler, twin SU carbs. Now to tighten up the handling a bit. http://youtu.be/XyIvRtyVSSY Mike _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 5 20:14:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F012D0AC7 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 20:14:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com (mail-bk0-f41.google.com [209.85.214.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56C02D0A33 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 19:53:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-bk0-f41.google.com with SMTP id jm1so2712237bkc.14 for ; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 18:54:50 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=8bGFniVneG6tkALNou3BlbkH/0gebg0J8ebIrFVQV2I=; b=NH1LHKyoQj51sADL10B+2f+jPDw8APFIuI7KEAHYX81g72Z0An568R/dOlaOTVfPQM uS7rvzhFyBoQXcTJENl1mp11a15aZzPvuE+gJu83WtF2x4smH0cESA2/fduSjTMEiElT vCLDMxk8MdrQekHFwGJzzrgHkZ4zcE1r0mmCqOkLCaSNcdGGvRkPdG+mM2xELwLWFV79 RQ5AbF7DWX3/W4hR5DAsQDrd2bQ4SnS3fWnexSrDJrIGIeI9KJF3AMQuz3DCloUWSvSu XkUTQwDEdKb7AWxclj0SXHFTwP37EK+p0Ryrw/TCWPDRhA4oy/7ONYxweVKcFCimaBtS dzIw== Received: by 10.205.120.134 with SMTP id fy6mr2752145bkc.18.1352170489579; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 18:54:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.205.127.15 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 18:54:49 -0800 (PST) References: <001801cdbb8c$1058e810$310ab830$@aero> <50984DDA.8070809@charter.net> <000101cdbbc4$b94cba90$2be62fb0$@aero> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 20:54:49 -0600 From: Mike Jankowski To: Robert MacKenzie Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Autocross Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Well, I think I may have misposted when I tried to post this earlier. Anyway, my car is slightly modified with poly rear radius arms bushings, lower front springs, aluminum radiator, electric cooling fan, Pertronix ignition, 4 into 1 header, standard imtermediate pipe, and a Cherry Bomb muffler at the back. Now to tighten up the handling... On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Robert MacKenzie wrote: > Here is another video of the same event. > http://youtu.be/XyIvRtyVSSY > In this case it is Mike Jankowski in his Spit 1500 winning the class. > > Robert > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Glenn Franco > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 5:38 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Autocross Video > > I concur > That's the best autocross I have seen! > Glenn > > On 11/5/2012 5:44 PM, Joe Curry wrote: > > Now that's what I call a "Real" autocross. > > > > Joe > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] > > On Behalf Of Robert MacKenzie > > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 12:31 PM > > To: 'FOT List' > > Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Autocross Video > > > > I thought I should share some video from an Autocross I ran yesterday > > at Harris Hill Raceway in San Marcos, Texas. > > > > The car is Marsha, my much abused '78 Spitfire. She suffered with a > > miss-fire coming out of the sweepers; could this be a float bowl level > > issue? > > > > http://youtu.be/9RSIp8h8-TM > > > > > > Robert MacKenzie > > Austin Texas > > '78 1500 (street) > > '71 GT6 MKIII (project) > > '62 Spitfire 4 (race) > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist@cox.net > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gaf3@charter.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/list@mackenzie.aero > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mikeragtopeditor@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 5 20:30:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1FE92D0ADE for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 20:30:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCBF82D0A5D for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 20:07:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1683C2E022 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 20:10:21 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 20:08:58 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <001801cdbb8c$1058e810$310ab830$@aero> <50984DDA.8070809@charter.net> <000101cdbbc4$b94cba90$2be62fb0$@aero> Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Autocross Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for the videos, guys, brought back some memories. I used to enjoy autocross, and was reasonably good at it. Maybe I'll get a reasonably steady income soon and can put Killer back together and get back into it. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 5 20:46:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D3A2D0AB1 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 20:46:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail5.pem.dotster.com (mail5.dotsterhost.com [72.5.54.239]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 440D22D0826 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 20:20:38 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 28370 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2012 03:21:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zap6) (list@mackenzie.aero@[70.253.93.209]) by 72.5.54.239 with SMTP; 6 Nov 2012 03:21:49 -0000 From: "Robert MacKenzie" To: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 21:21:31 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac27zdEoQCkzO2VGQOivm/1uhq7YBQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] ARP Part Numbers - Spitfire 1296 crank to flywheel bolts ??? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Does anybody have the correct part numbers for the APP flywheel bolts used on the 1296/1500 engine? I recall they are also used on a GM product somewhere... Austin Texas '78 1500 (street) '71 GT6 MKIII (project) '62 Spitfire 4 (race) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 6 12:50:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF202D0CAB for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:50:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC6122D09DD for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:14:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from AdminPC ([unknown] [173.49.180.29]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MD200FEHYTRKZK3@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 13:15:29 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard Good" To: Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 14:15:28 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR6 old race car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have an oppurtunity to by an older TR6 car that was a racer in the past. The car has been laid up for many years. The car comes with the racing log book. Is there any value to purchasing a car with a log book. The car itsef is in bad shape and has little value.Thanks. Richard Good _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 6 13:19:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A476B2D0CFD for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 13:19:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186322D0A31 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:55:58 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id rq2so705325pbb.14 for ; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 11:57:10 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=mr5HcX2q6jGGfoUtiayebzn+snyAbiAyo4h7CeY9woU=; b=HRPws88TOACLW83gps4Z9gL72zkBxSqoMqxkeKxvTbDNCfidC0yL53SYZBW2Z8rh2N mfZp7BmkPg5bDW5onjSdlmDvTG6I6Z8navFsAdi7/dI4i88jiJKm4M2Sl0Q0rjQ/F2ul c3CTZOTmIySSeRYEE8XlWM5irBPBB2nzsS4yXsUb/VAdrNRXxQNlOgOyT7Z0GqwfkjzM uuouDBPom3SYJW34DYD0NJeHLJGtvGOIFgucHHHR8XiJwb5/2G+Pmt7wgCKMBCr5bQF4 E+yVLTo+5XnAR9NMKpetr4AzcjXugqgixOmiAqCFKud7ItfqnKMCPRJYhDH5vJ93Ko9f vRFw== Received: by 10.68.200.33 with SMTP id jp1mr6566081pbc.54.1352231830666; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 11:57:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.80.6 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 11:57:10 -0800 (PST) References: <1CE8EADC9819404EB5E54083EDA8776D@AdminPC> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:57:10 -0500 From: robert bownes To: Richard Good Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 old race car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It's kind of like buying a serial number plate and a title. You can (in some sanctioning bodies) build a totally new car with little or nothing more than the logbook as long as the logbook doesn't say otherwise. Bob On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Richard Good wrote: > I have an oppurtunity to by an older TR6 car that was a racer in the past. > The > car has been laid up for many years. The car comes with the racing log > book. > Is there any value to purchasing a car with a log book. The car itsef is in > bad shape and has little value.Thanks. > > Richard Good > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 6 13:20:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9333C2D0D4C for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 13:20:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp007.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout007.mac.com [17.158.236.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F21E2D0A35 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:56:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.99.26] (c-76-99-29-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [76.99.29.73]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp007.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MD3007DZ0RN3D60@nk11p04mm-asmtp007.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 19:57:25 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-11-06_04:2012-11-05,2012-11-06,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1211060211 From: Scott Janzen Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 14:57:23 -0500 References: <1CE8EADC9819404EB5E54083EDA8776D@AdminPC> To: Richard Good Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 old race car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Only if Paul Newman's name is in the log book. On Nov 6, 2012, at 2:15 PM, Richard Good wrote: I have an oppurtunity to by an older TR6 car that was a racer in the past. The car has been laid up for many years. The car comes with the racing log book. Is there any value to purchasing a car with a log book. The car itsef is in bad shape and has little value.Thanks. Richard Good _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 6 13:36:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4B12D0CF3 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 13:36:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from e8.ny.us.ibm.com (e8.ny.us.ibm.com [32.97.182.138]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C7A2D0AFA for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 13:06:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from /spool/local by e8.ny.us.ibm.com with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! 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Michael Harmuth 63 Spit racecar 70 GT6 77 Spit 1500 80 Spit 1500 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of 46954216.gif] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 6 14:04:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDCA2D0CD0 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:04:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f169.google.com (mail-qc0-f169.google.com [209.85.216.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539662D03B0 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 13:45:34 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id t2so718827qcq.14 for ; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 12:46:46 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=ltgVgocy+VGNWjOCl6Hi/BEBtF6A19b/HgsyJcl/1Wg=; b=n6NSugBPBocPb0TBu6/AyAFdAU9CZgegDu1QctbG38LdhJyuHsHcjnU62kozTkhmix T7pRQg9ZSsnjqvXNEm7pNNhsP04RA2MmtDsYv4Y0aRuG4hXr6oigiYIT4y6X4EMlvm0p S0H41+TJX4TP/eO+1y5ifl5lbGf8qdZzJZSslxRgSpUnSwO51MatPXvldYcxWMp/f/2Q SKBLjlXkVpKiB2R1DudDPewy88lr4aVECj06kdQ+EyGkjSeuaa143fir2Z74qfvl2aFA tj+no9FsDrq5pmRILNSjyNdLWL2T4Ejtmr4eGxNuJor+UToMaYlkig/MN/3hvN7aEgXm Dblg== Received: by 10.49.4.65 with SMTP id i1mr4015959qei.51.1352234806857; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 12:46:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.28.169 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:46:46 -0800 (PST) References: <1CE8EADC9819404EB5E54083EDA8776D@AdminPC> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:46:46 -0600 From: Jason Ostrowski To: Richard Good Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 old race car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The log book definitely helps add value and certain lineage to the car. The down side, in this case, is that the log book goes with the car (which is apparently pretty far gone). For the log book to have any real value beyond its pretty picture and autographs and it's matter of historical record...it would of coarse have to accompany a real car. That being said, perhaps a primary portion of the car could remain for a restoration. In this case, important features of log book identity has to do with the number written in raised lettering on the front of the log book... It must match the number stamped into the roll bar. I believe SCCA Started this "official registration" for the 1972 season. For an SCCA car...The number has 2 parts; the region the car is (was) registered in (01), and the order it was registered.(001) Hence (01-001) = region 1, 1st car registered. The number, once given, is unique to the car and log book combo and does not expire or change. Supposedly the # and various facts exist somewhere in an SCCA archive. Other club racing sanctioning bodies did similar numbering or perhaps an official "approved" metallic sticker (again on the roll bar). Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Richard Good wrote: > I have an oppurtunity to by an older TR6 car that was a racer in the past. > The > car has been laid up for many years. The car comes with the racing log > book. > Is there any value to purchasing a car with a log book. The car itsef is in > bad shape and has little value.Thanks. > > Richard Good > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 6 14:38:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ECCA2D0CE7 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:38:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f41.google.com (mail-pa0-f41.google.com [209.85.220.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942962D0C09 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:12:06 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id fa10so690655pad.14 for ; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 13:13:19 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=WalBrMEKjjxOETTUDOOu0l2aL5Gvv1iezWvY01NUo+g=; b=hhGuFYuUPyQyFfLHDDg924voxF9ASnjCDd8oP8Ay+FEW2IZLuhd/gUoovneu5OgCMB t6V3PS/ahqELTT9hW5Xm9BRd684KcEu4w2Sbndp4MtUQuFZ1/o+VrV+V+pad2+l4fVf0 GucLM15HlFJS605U0+6vO/+GiV3IrnqtRF8euuGMZLEDALjwvITF7QKeeaxiPToQbWBz 0qNHkUNHKCjcLZ6wUqFp9DUkZbXILs+AU/X7M5PCxtxiis1uyin05WcXE4yn+ZVwl49B nLeMB/G7dYQmHtY/dsY3/Y8EMk/1e3bc9Flm6kRE7Wv/boh5QZtxmM/Op26Ku7Tl08W7 EG0Q== Received: by 10.68.252.133 with SMTP id zs5mr6943832pbc.152.1352236399006; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 13:13:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.80.6 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 13:13:18 -0800 (PST) References: <1CE8EADC9819404EB5E54083EDA8776D@AdminPC> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 16:13:18 -0500 From: robert bownes To: Jason Ostrowski Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 old race car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yup. You can saw out the portion of the main hoop with the serial number in it, take that, the logbook, and the (new) car to the tech inspector and claim to have put in a new hoop for 'updated safety' and as far as they are concerned, it is the same car. (Or punch the number into the new roll bar. But that is cheating. ;)) As I said, excepting if the log book reflects that the car is totaled and not repairable for competition. Not really worth doing unless you have a need to have a car with the lineage. Bob On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > The log book definitely helps add value and certain lineage to the car. The > down side, in this case, is that the log book goes with the car (which is > apparently pretty far gone). For the log book to have any real value beyond > its pretty picture and autographs and it's matter of historical record...it > would of coarse have to accompany a real car. That being said, perhaps a > primary portion of the car could remain for a restoration. > In this case, important features of log book identity has to do with the > number written in raised lettering on the front of the log book... It must > match the number stamped into the roll bar. I believe SCCA Started this > "official registration" for the 1972 season. > For an SCCA car...The number has 2 parts; the region the car is (was) > registered in (01), and the order it was registered.(001) > Hence (01-001) = region 1, 1st car registered. > The number, once given, is unique to the car and log book combo and does > not expire or change. Supposedly the # and various facts exist somewhere in > an SCCA archive. Other club racing sanctioning bodies did similar numbering > or perhaps an official "approved" metallic sticker (again on the roll bar). > > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Richard Good > wrote: > > > I have an oppurtunity to by an older TR6 car that was a racer in the > past. > > The > > car has been laid up for many years. The car comes with the racing log > > book. > > Is there any value to purchasing a car with a log book. The car itsef is > in > > bad shape and has little value.Thanks. > > > > Richard Good > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 6 16:11:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48272D0C6E for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 16:11:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8D62D0AA5 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:49:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id LFXy1k0071zF43QADNqsyg; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 22:50:52 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.126] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id LNqq1k0124L5TyG8kNqrij; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 22:50:52 +0000 From: Bud Rolofson To: Richard Good Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:50:50 -0700 References: <1CE8EADC9819404EB5E54083EDA8776D@AdminPC> Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 old race car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Richard, I bought a Spitfire race car recently that has a SCCA logbook starting in 1972. The car was a race car from day one and the logbook indicates it was raced at Limerock, Watkins Glen, and other tracks in the east. The logbook even has a couple polaroid pictures of the car in race trim stapled to it in the back. I was told that having such a logbook adds to the cars value because it shows it has "racing provenance" and that there are some races (California I believe) that only include cars that have a long racing history as shown by their logbooks. I'll venture a guess that those that have historical logbooks will believe that it adds value and those that don't have such logbooks will say it doesn't add value. So of course I'm in the former group now but certainly having a logbook adds sex appeal if not value and having one is better than not having one when the time comes to sell it. If nothing else it adds to the cool factor in my opinion. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Nov 6, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Richard Good wrote: > I have an oppurtunity to by an older TR6 car that was a racer in the > past. The > car has been laid up for many years. The car comes with the racing > log book. > Is there any value to purchasing a car with a log book. The car > itsef is in > bad shape and has little value.Thanks. > > Richard Good > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 6 16:12:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C834F2D0D3B for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 16:12:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893062D0B1A for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:54:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id qA6MtSxF021145; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 17:55:28 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 17:55:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Richard Good References: <1CE8EADC9819404EB5E54083EDA8776D@AdminPC> Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 old race car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, The logbooks does little more than establish "provenance" (in terms of vintage) and if you intend to use it on tracks where a logbook is required, you get to skip that step... I'd be more interested in "what is it" and "what's been done" to it than the log book. Maybe "where did it run". If it's like a lot of old race cars, it's probably "used up" so there may be little value in the car itself. Just MHO. l8r, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 6 19:47:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271702D0A42 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 19:47:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10C72D09A6 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 19:26:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from AdminPC ([unknown] [173.49.180.29]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MD300CVRITING51@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 20:27:19 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard Good" To: "'Friends of Triumph' Triumph" References: <1CE8EADC9819404EB5E54083EDA8776D@AdminPC> Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 21:26:41 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 old race car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks to all who responded. I posted the question for a friend, Boyd Wagner and will forward the responses to him. Boyd has restored a few TR's and recently built a Sprite for autocross and hillclimb. I nominated him to our group a while back and he received a second but he has not been receiving e-mails. His e-mail address is whipwagner@comcast.net. Does he need to introduce himself first? Richard -------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert M. Lang" Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 5:55 PM To: "Richard Good" Cc: Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 old race car > Hi, > > The logbooks does little more than establish "provenance" (in terms of > vintage) and if you intend to use it on tracks where a logbook is > required, you get to skip that step... > > I'd be more interested in "what is it" and "what's been done" to it than > the log book. Maybe "where did it run". > > If it's like a lot of old race cars, it's probably "used up" so there may > be little value in the car itself. > > Just MHO. > > l8r, > rml _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 6 21:18:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646B92D0B20 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 21:18:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8AD2D0A1C for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 20:53:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20121107035430.NLPZ12025.mta21.charter.net@imp09>; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 22:54:30 -0500 Received: from Davelaptop ([24.196.42.76]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id LTuV1k00Z1ec4C805TuW09; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 22:54:30 -0500 cv=nlrKf9u5uG3fs/vD0VBbL3/xzyN25p4t1WHsSeqasGo= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=hRgd5mShu202HiZ9wS8KUg==:17 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=bwKwuVEtOhf3WmKKCakA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=OO_fOQ0wWHEA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=hRgd5mShu202HiZ9wS8KUg==:117 From: "David Kettler" To: "Richard Good" , "'Friends of Triumph' Triumph" References: <1CE8EADC9819404EB5E54083EDA8776D@AdminPC> <81BB03E8B7714887A25C1EF747A1AADA@AdminPC> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 21:54:28 -0600 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 old race car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Richard: If you intend to race the car again in SCCA, the role cage rules differ depending upon when the car was constructed/registered. The logbook will show when the car was registered. All cars registered after 1/1/08 have different construction requirements and tubing sizes than those registered prior to this date. If it is an old car and you are going to go through it extensively, it might not be a bad idea to upgrade the cage also. Dave Kettler Divisional Administrator of Scrutineering Central Division - SCCA -----Original Message----- From: Richard Good Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 8:26 PM To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 old race car Thanks to all who responded. I posted the question for a friend, Boyd Wagner and will forward the responses to him. Boyd has restored a few TR's and recently built a Sprite for autocross and hillclimb. I nominated him to our group a while back and he received a second but he has not been receiving e-mails. His e-mail address is whipwagner@comcast.net. Does he need to introduce himself first? Richard -------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert M. Lang" Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 5:55 PM To: "Richard Good" Cc: Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 old race car > Hi, > > The logbooks does little more than establish "provenance" (in terms of > vintage) and if you intend to use it on tracks where a logbook is > required, you get to skip that step... > > I'd be more interested in "what is it" and "what's been done" to it than > the log book. Maybe "where did it run". > > If it's like a lot of old race cars, it's probably "used up" so there may > be little value in the car itself. > > Just MHO. > > l8r, > rml _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dkettler1@charter.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5378 - Release Date: 11/06/12 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 7 07:25:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3BA2D0CCF for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 07:25:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78FA92D08AD for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 07:02:22 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 10so2988118ied.14 for ; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 06:03:34 -0800 (PST) h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=Tp/mzd1eK6a78DGuVdAyUMmhXDLOaY0zZNn3UtlDMFU=; b=vqXlXJQRJGnS/RLbQBGGmturOXQuK8nARY905TP5rVIpYF3wfXJwUkjai8iq5XLhT9 n1mEwq/1xzl+25u9PRxCcBGLYNBJ9pqfDW2J41axwqkimuclwBEHPm7QWnS6wGDm95Mi SanE4MX5X54Tme03MbFthjOtcAGKQKNIiXmWW8X/L9nrdOphi1VD0zvbR2YdcaBxwEU+ nNwYumxD9kmDSRknAxS71pUkWGvDQe/lUwpcTEUWdSuyjzYN7eqvEixkbvBjjTHPqZ7F vpjP0lqWQqXcK/UwO4lSICjS+0eVSnLv7Em/Qoyi9v21Arniud1ujj3on6/BmfMpxdRQ Lrew== Received: by 10.42.44.196 with SMTP id c4mr4111569icf.17.1352297014843; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 06:03:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from Quad3400 (cpe-67-240-51-24.nycap.res.rr.com. [67.240.51.24]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id uz12sm1950284igb.16.2012.11.07.06.03.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 07 Nov 2012 06:03:34 -0800 (PST) From: "Clark W. Nicholls" To: "'David Kettler'" , "'Richard Good'" , "''Friends of Triumph' Triumph'" References: <1CE8EADC9819404EB5E54083EDA8776D@AdminPC> <81BB03E8B7714887A25C1EF747A1AADA@AdminPC> <288DBE5295C1425BA458978FE74CE07B@Davelaptop> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 09:03:31 -0500 thread-index: Ac28nykpEzAMXU7cRm6uJ2lk3yh4xQAUNivw Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 old race car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I remember a few years ago that VSCCA was not allowing MGA cars that had not been race cars in the past to enter. Seems that there were so many folks building their street cars into race cars they feared it would be like a huge spec class! I think that restriction is no longer in effect, but I'd keep the logbook and whatever it takes to build a reincarnation of the TR6 just in case. Just my $0.02... Clark Clark W. Nicholls 1972 Stag (LE7931E) for sale, 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) and 1 rusty GT6 needing new owner (KC 5577 L) (it will have soon!) www.botchagaloop.net for old racing photos "Reality, it's not what you think." _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 7 07:26:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60BBA2D0D4D for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 07:26:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp009.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp009.mac.com [17.158.236.118]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08CD52D097D for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 07:03:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.99.26] (c-76-99-29-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [76.99.29.73]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp009.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MD400FYTF3BMY30@nk11p04mm-asmtp009.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 14:04:25 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8185,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-11-06_05:2012-11-06,2012-11-06,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1211070106 From: Scott Janzen Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 09:04:23 -0500 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] TR4 cams Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Is anyone familiar with a cam designation of M23-108? I'm looking for cam timing specs. Thanks! _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 7 07:57:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43C42D0CE7 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 07:57:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f169.google.com (mail-ia0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 948CA2D0D2F for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 07:39:54 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ia0-f169.google.com with SMTP id h37so1449503iak.14 for ; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 06:41:07 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=j0c86wKsBOOux6rE20WX/aZURt0aiGoYBaQMI7ZGYRA=; b=BjKUWpV6keVI1SOUdlkEBEOq3atisR/4Ee2Y6pMHwFMAZb0sOnxXKS58EMjythMmPQ aU1BoyghSdqAs/M2e/nLo14riuyHV7he1a7lKyO7aZUWymR7PX1wyXonLlM31LWP1teJ Cw4RsoJws9a1C2bh9vJH0uTxXi5HBwyvibIH/KJu0lv1dmTI00ON2fSRPnlucFtqiI7b 2tlV+bTATuPHd3DQfWMa9NcXBWYjKGv1s4sNHgOLLGh79BdsXq4j2/cI79h0kqJ8jrMI cqsBZOkmnfmS3oxjcBY//Ygr9aQgnOSYrYiz4g0hXchOQqXmLxcgD8z2OGLFVntUICvX ZWew== Received: by 10.50.217.200 with SMTP id pa8mr2171531igc.26.1352299267820; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 06:41:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.11.227 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 06:40:27 -0800 (PST) References: From: Don Marshall Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 09:40:27 -0500 To: Scott Janzen Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 cams Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Scott, call American Cam Grinding at 626-938-0073 and see if it's one of theirs. I recently found a TR4 cam in my stash marked M13 and it was a hot street grind that they had done back in the day. Don On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Scott Janzen wrote: > Is anyone familiar with a cam designation of M23-108? > I'm looking for cam timing specs. > Thanks! > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/donmarshall@nefcom.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 7 07:58:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B922D0E3A for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 07:58:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C7CD2D0D2F for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 07:40:19 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=odcYAGd74NRp1HM/+4fx+Q==:17 a=LsRHwEOMIkgA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=1QpQ-hZcBWwA:10 a=HHGDD-5mAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=0ZksW33TK-1qu1vpEmUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=i1zE5R4R5dEA:10 a=odcYAGd74NRp1HM/+4fx+Q==:117 Received: from [12.238.168.199] ([12.238.168.199:14159] helo=[192.168.114.131]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 08/19-20885-C137A905; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 14:41:32 +0000 References: From: Bob Kramer Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 08:41:28 -0600 To: Scott Janzen Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 cams Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sounds like a BFE cam, call Ken Gilanders. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Scott Janzen wrote: > Is anyone familiar with a cam designation of M23-108? > I'm looking for cam timing specs. > Thanks! > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 7 07:58:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F7A2D0E1A for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 07:58:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B649E2D096F for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 07:41:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.9]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6FE271C00006D; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 09:43:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mtb002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtb002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.197]) by mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 3F0DFE00008F; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 09:43:02 -0500 (EST) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 09:43:02 -0500 (EST) To: cwnfot@gmail.com, dkettler1@charter.net, goodparts@verizon.net, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1352299382; bh=Zc8imL8M85YIMi0bOUMJraI5Mr0aZe9Ollt9RGyPJgk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QmfXNarQZ8BIRvoUuloY9gBLOfKCFi+Enmz8otDutQc9iOA1TLd3TSnK1qGY29ABA Aabm37nWW4pIRwcy9JMttJJjr0kRKTiNPf98rqiyLeCHX4WQsQyMUDrxzoC5bipD4/ nNxopYlTNKbzqjwXfFcJ/sBnA9nIFp4CgYq4LrSo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2909509a737613ff Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 old race car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 11/07/2012 8:27:05 AM Central Standard Time, cwnfot@gmail.com writes: > I remember a few years ago that VSCCA was not allowing MGA cars that had > not > been race cars in the past to enter. Seems that there were so many folks > building their street cars into race cars they feared it would be like a > huge spec class! I think that restriction is no longer in effect, but I'd > keep the logbook and whatever it takes to build a reincarnation of the TR6 > just in case. > Clark... Early on many key movers and shakers within VSCDA went out of their way to keep the fold made up of 'certified old race cars' from the so-called 'Golden Days of Sports Car Racing'. And the bluer their blood...the better. Not only that, I can't tell you how many times I heard officers and directors say, "We don't want race grids made up of a bunch of rusty TR3s." Since I was racing an early TR3, that hurt my feelings. At that time you could not race a Triumph TR4 with the VSCDA." Bob Wismer asked then President (and founder) John Kleen, "When will the Triumph TR4 be approved." John Kleen answered, "Never!" We owe John Kleen because he was certainly the Founding Father and is responsible for the early success of the VSCDA. In those days the race grids were made up of incredible museum pieces...out there on the track...running at speed. That was a joy to behold. But no matter how pretty, small fields won't pay the bills. So soon the rules were eased, eventually the museum pieces stayed home, and life went on with grids made up of lots of production based sports cars, many of whom were recently converted into race cars. In the process, a lot of 'problems' were solved and now they go really fast. That too...is a joy to behold. Just a little history, folks. No political position intended. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 7 10:18:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE6F2D0D37 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 10:18:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com (mail-bk0-f41.google.com [209.85.214.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16382D0D98 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 10:03:50 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-bk0-f41.google.com with SMTP id jm1so952551bkc.14 for ; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 09:05:01 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Xs9USZCuE0d6YalR3A3HDq5vf4rZQHbLp9RObGpK3qA=; b=nJlhX///WYHx55C8LFtwJ8C+otc24iaT+CRXJtKa4OmtfhbA/+nSzkNx0pxTZ4Wrxe b+1hN+K5i2smCtEK2EIajWuiB0OUM1QQVjNRZqLy+mxHOPJJxbthGf3gDan90DKFemgh kjN5nvx3mXFN7O+V5XNe74sG4iGovR/NKF0enVrVFv9bWrTgLU3Z95l0/J5IXeTCjfvG Gx8PC0xmgTzG0kOCEZAF9BZ7XsDBRblr//Qbk2qSoOiuGwf/VXZZ9wB7AS2p9Cb4odP9 sD/nR5X7G2iyQ6mMhR54OAyeb+D75J2hw7+EZU4kWz8rVZtwDjQ1YV+h+CN6Ecz/BIfR Fruw== Received: by 10.204.6.75 with SMTP id 11mr1301134bky.10.1352307901278; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 09:05:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.205.127.15 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 09:05:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 11:05:01 -0600 From: Mike Jankowski To: FOT List Subject: [Fot] Advice for making my Spitfire faster for Autox Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Everyone, I've finally gotten to the point of feeling that my Spitfire is ready for some more upgrades. I drive it every day, and am planning on a full autocross season in 2013. I run in FSP. At the moment I have twin SU carbs, needles from a 1973 MGB HIF carbset, slightly shaved head, 4-1 header, stock intermediate pipe, and a Cherry Bomb muffler. Ignition is by Pertronix. I installed an aluminum radiator with an electric cooling fan also. Suspension wise I have poly radius arm bushings, lowered front springs, standard shocks at all corners. Brakes are standard, too. I have a non-od 4spd and stock 3.89 diff. Currently on the list of upgrades I have front poly bushings, poly steering rack mounts, and a better exhaust system. I also have poly shock bushings. Once I put all those on, I'm wondering what the next step would be, keeping in mind I drive this car every day since it's my only car. Thanks, Mike _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 7 12:19:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615F42D0CFD for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 12:19:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B052D0C06 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 11:56:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6582E01D for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 11:59:46 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 11:58:17 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: FOT List References: Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice for making my Spitfire faster for Autox Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A number of years ago I wrote a piece called "Anatomy of an Autocrosser" I think, about what I did to my Spits. I'll have to see if I can find it and if there is anything still relevant in there. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 7 12:26:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797752D0DD9 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 12:26:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BAF2D0802 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 12:10:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8133B2E01D for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 12:13:21 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 12:11:54 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: FOT List References: Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice for making my Spitfire faster for Autox Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net See http://www.team.net/mjb/junior_details.html mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 7 19:33:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CDDA2D0D84 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 19:33:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm29-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm29-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.166]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C617B2D0D86 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 19:10:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.144] by nm29.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2012 02:11:25 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.245] by tm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2012 02:11:25 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1054.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2012 02:11:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 53032 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Nov 2012 02:11:25 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352340685; bh=SFbGOldOhKb+imWlbqMmMoZ7uFzBC+o4g6voOfBPmAM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=L053Oymu+pLlbSxanazav2x1y4ZNc1frS0ej7t1vR7FHdr1ZMEHOeZ1bDIv3MUoIag3guRDovc+r67UlYnJ1QEa6BWuXyj/tTReuUJu8OwW9tWLWqldxEovJCab+XetF6gz6FhLPJyW6IaBIxM03p12nP0+tzWE4E1wsPGYIwRg= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PVGlvrh3jmlVTMgA/0P1iUYcIQ6uoZ03UmKlk0/mEfh8Jf8OEK0mR/xYbV2xKeL/1fTNpSf20LOy92Cagop7MqQ8KZgRo9I+LrVYyZjAjscfJyK0Hk+5IJ6znU2dKNnB4rLJKMr60P31o58iz9+D/pfFcsjOEwCZdX3poYdU5Vw=; nHIG1jtKqcf2YCF9bIkrFJCRa_RXr1CLPtJetldYODO_eOPM_yEv5dHb1M.h pZBedjpkvqC.Cu9QgVmmkr1WF8crTEnuHRVT6hEn4xuPfpe9PGISYLkbYBNE o7hZB49Wm4zMzgfBZ6xfBaqEnvyuY3ZTtWLf57XdonJGrM_fM.qr6YmHRmGY RQqxKuOYkpXvwLoLMUZxoKKO41AKU_appjOc_yepgJTt36riyV_wz.0O9pVo wATdIIa4p3G0ni5Nj.ngSuDYrXxtSvff2_iTWh5_rrb.xEYa_wE6NmetPuhB FkhKl28Rw0afHqW2eypUaiIftgZncCIEvS7E0DtP95fAtOBE6xWDaVAZ5HvQ EQHweelLeHjgZvYlVZfroQGhQFjbKP9S7wDkhr2dbM5Ka.MVDegiL5yd9yQx fN3HbF0qAKng- Received: from [108.101.148.1] by web162503.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:11:25 PST wqAgwqAgwqBIYXMgYW55b25lIHRyaWVkIHRoZSBBVEkgaGFybW9uaWMgYmFsYW5jZXIgZm9yIFRSJ3M_IERvIHlvdSBsaWtlIGl0PyBJcyBpdCB3b3J0aCB0aGUgYmlnIGJ1Y2tzPwpTdXJlIGxvb2tzIGdvb2Qgb24gcGFwZXIuCgoKwqBKb2huIFdhZ25lciAoanVzdCB0aGUgd3JlbmNoKQEwAQEBAQ-- Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 18:11:25 -0800 (PST) From: John Wagner To: "Fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] ATI harmonic balancer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Has anyone tried the ATI harmonic balancer for TR's? Do you like it? Is it worth the big bucks? Sure looks good on paper. John Wagner (just the wrench) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 7 22:06:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF742D0E88 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 22:06:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3AF12D0864 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 21:31:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 043301C0000AC; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 23:32:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-drc004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-drc004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.226.77]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D12ECE00008B; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 23:32:53 -0500 (EST) References: <1352340685.52133.YahooMailNeo@web162503.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> To: j.wags63@yahoo.com, Fot@autox.team.net From: malaboge@aol.com Received: from 75.62.238.23 by webmail-m137.sysops.aol.com (149.174.9.25) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 07 Nov 2012 23:32:53 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 23:32:53 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1352349173; bh=m6FJv4ODZwUft+UiRldUQ4+mxG4rXJBVv0I97HiKyU0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=haOhugcEdzhJnfUGBsOC6i/OkYgzZ0krfa8yT+syykJGI1kXMSwDFdYmivpEJsZGv qwrZAPvYICDAylP0ZdeSLadeREYbQzD3zDj9gwR1SwEcPuhuSnpvSQFilNRVPS9t/p 0jtgxjFVYNEZ1IeIuxjnqj3TTVHymBYJBhYxJNYo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b509b35f51389 Subject: Re: [Fot] ATI harmonic balancer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net -----Original Message----- From: John Wagner To: Fot Sent: Wed, Nov 7, 2012 6:34 pm Subject: [Fot] ATI harmonic balancer Has anyone tried the ATI harmonic balancer for TR's? Do you like it? Is it worth the big bucks? Sure looks good on paper. John Wagner (just the wrench) John, I supplied specs and have had ATI design up a balancer for my TR4 several years ago. They should have one available for a TR for you. The one thing to be sure to have on it are taper headed bolts on the front face of the damper (with the accompanying recessed tapered holes) as the "regular" bolts are just a tad too close to the rack. Previously I tried a readily available setup (made with an MG piece I've heard) and promptly broke my crank! After the ATI unit (and a new billet crank) I haven't had any issues. If ATI cannot figure it out, I believe that I still have the drawings somewhere and could probably even find their part number for the unit they supplied to me. A little out of balance myself... Nick in Nor Cal _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 7 23:01:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10AE72D0F2E for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 23:01:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f169.google.com (mail-ia0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B002D0E7C for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 22:29:18 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ia0-f169.google.com with SMTP id h37so2094756iak.14 for ; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:30:31 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=EC8acvBm1DXUTG1CPP3fkpKqys40mbNQ/X0c05HtqWU=; b=hCLFzKHvyJo97Wxrsq249fLwrg6o4ZBQ+Sy4BULYu7INeg98otvhgd6Lgl3FV2zDN/ GsCoVcDgZGc0Wh61lRVA87k1xsZQUmHuJlBkEbqM8W2HL1Cy7bp/9FJWcyIYTK57IXmV f4Ic9JX86fMcaGI31lQ6hZXeXpnQhXKjMfyBgqP2ew4jh12mjEQao65P1zWFBeB6H0CP g41EknVLhyOuQ16yPUaos1PG59aqnxZ9elYAJB3fg4YneDRN3tnNK/2B0YC5LEPm04uy 6Ey4qZfrVPId5G/jFuTnp8Cy68smF74aBkJ5dgLZJ6J6kbbApFxpiennPm0A2P0qwT4u W8/A== Received: by 10.50.34.201 with SMTP id b9mr6731764igj.55.1352352631463; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:30:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.91.195 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 21:30:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.91.195 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 21:30:31 -0800 (PST) References: <1352340685.52133.YahooMailNeo@web162503.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 21:30:31 -0800 From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" To: John Wagner Cc: "Fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] ATI harmonic balancer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have one. They mis-keyed it so tdc I'd at 22 degrees. Works great. On Nov 7, 2012 6:34 PM, "John Wagner" wrote: > Has anyone tried the ATI harmonic balancer for TR's? Do you like it? > Is > it worth the big bucks? > Sure looks good on paper. > > > John Wagner (just the > wrench) > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 05:18:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F312D0EC1 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 05:18:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mailrtr03.ntelos.net (mailrtr03.ntelos.net [216.12.0.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B7D2D0EA2 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 04:59:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from webmail.ntelos.net (webmail.lumos.net [209.145.64.96]) by mailrtr03.ntelos.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id qA8C0W1D016169 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 07:00:32 -0500 Received: from d-128-235-112.bootp.Virginia.EDU (d-128-235-112.bootp.Virginia.EDU [128.143.235.112]) by webmail.ntelos.net with HTTP (SquirrelMail authenticated user rjl6n@cstone.net); Thu, 8 Nov 2012 07:00:32 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 07:00:32 -0500 From: "R. John Lye" To: fot@autox.team.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 Subject: [Fot] Happy Birthday Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Well, well, well, guess who's turning 50 today? Bob Bownes is having a birthday today. I hope that its a good one, welcome to "Official Old Fart" status Bob. John _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 06:21:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A5D2D0F2F for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 06:21:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f169.google.com (mail-ea0-f169.google.com [209.85.215.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0421E2D0F29 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 06:06:11 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ea0-f169.google.com with SMTP id k11so1292267eaa.14 for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 05:07:24 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=+6vMdGOXcttAa1qpX9P6tXHN/z92RNznOsa7Jiu+vQ8=; b=oncDKNjegspJSfTYO4nAsYMOhVW5yiSNSLyOuqPuyB+ek0uCu0lBWnOLLRix9S72sb wfC0lsNr0GgO/gzfFKQbyRzopri0Y9+eA3pKV8tuf83YfDmcqLn859lbuiCQl4I8XDNm x8/HIZP0WorgcQcP8BhTppgYMsVw1vyszhFsbWh2JVyODfOp5GbWJFQgmx2sqeZM3O1t R2wbNAE7bmPv4hp7uJQazP0KYKeHyNVtjjptkgMuV2yWPvCyy3e4epMGFHWCSDSFkkr1 DU6IP8dXfl7eYEQBh/6qkyTKuLBD65XDSFXwFGg4T7uKJvbHZWzLqLm/gmoc+c/CeeXi kvbA== Received: by 10.14.194.71 with SMTP id l47mr27114395een.6.1352380044404; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 05:07:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.119.139 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 05:07:24 -0800 (PST) References: <1352340685.52133.YahooMailNeo@web162503.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 08:07:24 -0500 From: Robert Deanes To: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" Cc: "Fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] ATI harmonic balancer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ken Glanders sells them and ready to bolt on....British Frame and Engine Just my two cents On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 12:30 AM, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley < triosan@gmail.com> wrote: > I have one. They mis-keyed it so tdc I'd at 22 degrees. Works great. > On Nov 7, 2012 6:34 PM, "John Wagner" wrote: > > > Has anyone tried the ATI harmonic balancer for TR's? Do you like it? > > Is > > it worth the big bucks? > > Sure looks good on paper. > > > > > > John Wagner (just the > > wrench) > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 07:11:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA3FE2D0FD1 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 07:11:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm27-vm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm27-vm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.216.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A08B2D0F26 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 06:47:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.137.12.60] by nm27.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2012 13:48:26 -0000 Received: from [98.137.0.71] by tm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2012 13:48:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp123-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2012 13:48:26 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352382506; bh=6Ni3fO5IcSxqisU0qDX8FhFAR5vspH5O5Rx1GWaSorg=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=ImkqW+9iK/pdWEATbMJvi7rrK27k0CyTJZRr5lv6u4uXrpPyb+cZIex0nvjHhwSg2HwUVuFDZ+qwyp/fiHFKPUILnS0EnR8ZQm7MUbDRIOU1xTjncdp6L24z0+GLXh2+HHWueu3yG3Esz5swdAt4d4nNwrS3tJAoYV4qxJe9xl0= 3cSJWhJMcv5GCuEgJNKDHMAckNaXM3O5PFcdLWwGz0qQ3CVjbIIVGl7Bervy gr2hfFFmoRHalD.n0ahZ0IsjxhmLJtDFZXUjvtr60Bui3twP8NvCghC7EXMS eGhWa91AMkyb4Si1zqD.d3XCPULFbZCpAh9lWnSvmKIq_t8CkBhyg51znQPD vI4q_MruzZMtJehsxSSEUGIl44M8VCZHKwjLJHfj5.BmaHh01DbAXnmIB4Gm 3jmsmqcZV6tDayarawQKJ8t2hwemp3y85Ja_oits8xBXAOoerKZekMxtMx2h byabGOntmwmd3m6V2TP_D6uPOlf9oxFNbctkh.wJZg_wO4Pkt.GjXW4oZB6a ANf6ThdV_AS3DGyQiUg2MALFJ5T.SGygiGnAqNF63iJiAKrzQoqHLC_xy2bH _fgl.y2trcDhNY5u9NwGmT9FjlmnJx7E7.yg7TSSbkY8bQT9W9Jm32tN2Ks3 l.1KxKv0MMEAIL_OMtA0lFCg7DObHKPc0Xp6p2waXcfMvPgGhf1Qk6g-- Received: from [192.168.1.67] (yellow-green@99.43.68.42 with xymcookie) by smtp123-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Nov 2012 13:48:26 +0000 UTC References: From: Dennis Delap Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 07:48:25 -0600 To: Don Marshall Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 cams Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net As long as we're at it - I too have a cam that I'd like to identify. Scrolled in the end is D9 and stamped is Y.2K. I do know that this is kind of a 3/4 cam from Kent Howards last TR3 race motor. Anyone? Thanks Dennis On Nov 7, 2012, at 8:40 AM, Don Marshall wrote: > Scott, call American Cam Grinding at 626-938-0073 and see if it's one of > theirs. I recently found a TR4 cam in my stash marked M13 and it was a hot > street grind that they had done back in the day. Don > > > On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Scott Janzen wrote: > >> Is anyone familiar with a cam designation of M23-108? >> I'm looking for cam timing specs. >> Thanks! >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/donmarshall@nefcom.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 07:12:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F252D1039 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 07:12:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm21.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm21.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.84]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5C32D0F3B for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 06:53:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.48] by nm21.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2012 13:54:13 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.104] by tm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2012 13:54:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp121-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2012 13:54:13 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352382853; bh=W+sEld8wLQ345cLkh5Ib5rzvr1gOVWei1Rb4DbxHs5o=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Subject:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=qlQshZRF2YywkMR+ccCctUxdsAOcbQ0EiufNNoye/YE9DE2gR9dpovhvumtBAL3abhAJ3FBLm/31GIgvnoRw53evumNsDtWzzAkaTN29yFtI/acIa66kvKn9TcAvLKly33NaELqlETdXKRRGIEBAPbMYBsu/Q/Z2WlipLmx9GP0= eoy._RQMQGzEfP0fzYXrT4oydfMrav.MgH4afnvKZJNd1BljewYcqfuWn1Ye zYBpl1M3GL1sdVkmUh7ed2X43ApIICMvS28vsAOZp4Q.JhZsZM3.MpXiCsHD wUplMiw3iPGgexvuzabiHdeXA07ITYV_fnYFivrlq.aywnu2VGDRYwddjiE4 QkX7oFp8sIBjDpsBFHH7sIav68VRgSPn31dSbItHi0mamyLja.LE3R4U014m wFHGoXnVx1Nw7Ce7YDQwLInTiJWsMQt.ekQ.8J0YBi6NccDIv3s2D4G0st2f IVz8pho7cmzKO4syyF_dagpjkKJY4onrck.jrDyTOW9UlUXAdw_aPiiA3Ez2 dTLdQJlQsTFpl82Y1JtMUp85vCKNku3X7euQeLQbe9PJouNRGvJ2EOSXQJ2z 6o4n1YbMhdh_Pda38VAF0yAsMBrV_tfqsEvXB2bhu Received: from [192.168.1.67] (yellow-green@99.43.68.42 with xymcookie) by smtp121-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Nov 2012 13:54:13 +0000 UTC From: Dennis Delap Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 07:54:13 -0600 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Up Close Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A M I C I _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 07:40:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4152D0E38 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 07:40:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm26-vm0.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm26-vm0.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.52.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928492D0F7C for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 07:26:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.52.190] by nm26.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2012 14:27:47 -0000 Received: from [76.13.13.229] by tm3.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2012 14:27:47 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp108-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2012 14:27:47 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352384867; bh=fTAEtVGY5FyQAccEOxEYfFMnglr9ZPM8IvAWP0bzs9k=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=zovck61sl6V7CaK3dvEC14V1JAUCcyokxnLWidKO+h7kD2ZfTiI9ib7KkUY87KLL4CiJ4ZY2t+oSgtWirHlqt7JXy5ZWPH+PpI5JEv2nH9u0GuFqy1LD9mfTU7UNmIgzqY9JnIgR/14QYUi633J6y1XTmuHdljigiAMgxi08+9k= xlvJxs7yY0Q5y2LKrlw1XtGNKCU5fTfgs9ksH8N5psTkngctBiWcf4ErggZk HlZggI2tAaxpWnbMGTeSun5RR_ptzSavzpdPZ7t3EGSZ5i36zek2oBcDQgcN .1.4YnBdrAe5vVllODMCQENXznp8oUlvnepI3XT1mIH6kzSaEoQqxW68RE5c inEjOvUDnGpL1OlzZn1AZZUhiaOrJPwlVxxrr7DWHsh3YEonmNJBFERqFYu. IIAztj0ExhLLf8iVstwB89fO8Nhvfe76gi02LrUnBWx0S8rQMSVMnwJDqgjc vJmeCDlEo4079QMljp0e3_CyCyIcSy7RnpxE410ZmdDOqN5Xb.c.SFbgWrZv JnoxmvnUlm8FilGX2jPRtYagqZQOiAJyE2DtVl0z.L7B5E2jWN_EO8pmHxV8 lxcJsR7DNHa8.XV8iycAj9UxzPB9VvGLfLqJPZBH2aQMu7ddHAnxartbNoQy bRRleJk5U1AG. Received: from [10.98.3.85] (fasttrs@166.205.66.56 with xymcookie) by smtp108-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Nov 2012 06:27:47 -0800 PST References: <45D6AB04-4A16-4D6F-8E44-2C565EBC9CCB@sbcglobal.net> From: Mike Munson Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 08:27:46 -0600 To: Dennis Delap Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 cams/ 3/4 cams? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That brings up a question I have always had. What does the term 3/4 cam mean, .75 lift? Mike Sent from my iPhone On Nov 8, 2012, at 7:48 AM, Dennis Delap wrote: > As long as we're at it - I too have a cam that I'd like to identify. > Scrolled in the end is D9 and stamped is Y.2K. > I do know that this is kind of a 3/4 cam from Kent Howards last TR3 race > motor. > Anyone? > Thanks > Dennis > > On Nov 7, 2012, at 8:40 AM, Don Marshall wrote: > >> Scott, call American Cam Grinding at 626-938-0073 and see if it's one of >> theirs. I recently found a TR4 cam in my stash marked M13 and it was a hot >> street grind that they had done back in the day. Don >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Scott Janzen wrote: >> >>> Is anyone familiar with a cam designation of M23-108? >>> I'm looking for cam timing specs. >>> Thanks! >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/donmarshall@nefcom.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green@sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 07:58:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1752D1012 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 07:58:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE4B32D0F99 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 07:35:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id qA8EaP2H028885; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:36:25 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:36:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: John Wagner References: <1352340685.52133.YahooMailNeo@web162503.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Cc: "Fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] ATI harmonic balancer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I bought an ATI for my TR6 from Goodparts. It's awesome. It was literally a bolt-on. Well thought out. rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 08:13:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A682D101C for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 08:13:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D9992D0326 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 07:44:49 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id rq2so2270277pbb.14 for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 06:46:03 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=aZzNZR19J98rqKuE2jXUYoRaAnyfPoSpXo2R8/BzhX4=; b=TcGj/IEJhLQ/V4hJSSTV5w5/S5u87/bWrtPUMg9SOy0PHsPcU0wPB+6F9ZyBlnAN9/ 8n/FOcFWSWbtY710KPIbmDno2oVrJL+UJhWIoZ3mY5W74OMSI2A6l5vvsq+zAGNZ4f8s rbocJcjvhsnsRsd1N9tXgGpw7x5BZO06YAsDakVOdAWji/R2aRsoTdsKo8cZItld2kZo cFqtAD+Ynx7sCh2Yn+4aUGKNcFI9KgDG4vwbTgmmdSFUFGR/FsUlhj1Ih8qVtBMjWSbq A8vBNkVUyVDe8m8YTqPRS9ZNyabIq7BxPT0iNR8CVbHKKlTWbRaNea5YhD16vbqe7hPC EMLA== Received: by 10.66.88.4 with SMTP id bc4mr22825188pab.42.1352385963136; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 06:46:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.80.6 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 06:46:03 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:46:03 -0500 From: robert bownes To: "R. John Lye" Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Happy Birthday Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks! As long as it doesn't mean I have to go slower. :) On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:00 AM, R. John Lye wrote: > Well, well, well, guess who's turning > 50 today? Bob Bownes is having a birthday > today. I hope that its a good one, welcome > to "Official Old Fart" status Bob. > > John > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 08:13:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66F12D1094 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 08:13:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268F82D0F66 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 07:46:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qA8ElCAn007974; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:47:12 -0500 Received: from core-mtb002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtb002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.197]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 609A5E000097; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:47:12 -0500 (EST) From: BillDentin@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:47:12 -0500 (EST) To: fasttrs@yahoo.com, yellow-green@sbcglobal.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1352386032; bh=PHU/ZRQG1z6aZ9u3IuqIzcZ2Hc6I4EB3/08EqQtXLHM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qXnNyabPfJ0za0CL/j5xeDPoJttNie4ilZ18mcY0WqnrkFS0vNGMfcQsLqWXPGxUE z4PHw3VlMJBjNMnV0F09Qa/ycN5hAoIpd1S5548bVRfzbkw8IfVO9BBl124ex6l1cn bah+hL3OE9nhI2tPU5yAV+GNlC3xav2Du5GNH2eE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b509bc5f029a5 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 cams/ 3/4 cams? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 11/08/2012 8:42:31 AM Central Standard Time, fasttrs@yahoo.com writes: > That brings up a question I have always had. What does the term 3/4 cam > mean, > .75 lift? > I always thought it was a three quarter 'race cam', or a so-called street and track cam. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 09:30:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F692D1068 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:30:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE9B2D1033 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:12:45 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id rq2so2332942pbb.14 for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 08:13:53 -0800 (PST) h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=X3zqNP56ncuOBFihTF+5+tWWJhFFH+ODoo73at+W4zY=; b=HS0li2zkosscCrP5s2CYOCIHC+tRc5CAxcgOxGWxkPlhpJky0vA17cHBZWHb/EkilB NPO8YhGwbiTwDTQ1+YYNT2Onn4NFF+s32elOOBdqXGv829tzRT9Sf7NOdejeAJNS3hol EOWn8bqjEcA56qbP8j0pW1anoF4BzllT0S3C93TOqcN49FOz7mK88l3xf6P3ztGyonyS +nh3bc/uZaEjuBKx9yvne2a4KKZ9ZZZLhnsTuxlR4nBgeV7hkm/KS6nFCHb6HjHCLGki N5tGc3dw1aX9jIfCr1bFDhhLRZIDLpVJXnGCwWMURWelgXiAsQlvupWxaFrAEVJGZHSc X1hQ== Received: by 10.68.224.9 with SMTP id qy9mr25190865pbc.3.1352391233649; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 08:13:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (174-131.dial.gorge.net. [209.216.174.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hs1sm16149919pbc.33.2012.11.08.08.13.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 08 Nov 2012 08:13:52 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Babcock Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 08:13:33 -0800 References: <45D6AB04-4A16-4D6F-8E44-2C565EBC9CCB@sbcglobal.net> <61E47520-B19D-43DB-8A42-64529D4CF0B2@yahoo.com> To: Mike Munson Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 cams/ 3/4 cams? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Marketing, derived from "full race cam" and meaning "nearly a full race cam" which begs the question "what is a full race cam" Answer: Marketing. On Nov 8, 2012, at 6:27 AM, Mike Munson wrote: > That brings up a question I have always had. What does the term 3/4 cam mean, > .75 lift? > > Mike > > Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 09:45:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206FF2D1075 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:45:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm12-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm12-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A452D0FCD for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:17:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.49] by nm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2012 16:18:47 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.242] by tm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2012 16:18:47 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp105-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2012 16:18:47 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352391527; bh=G+66FgY/uSJkFi18RfJPNhWMkJCp6clZFM8ImzccJPY=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=YmaZLtZtBuAteewVNfcyiAUtw5c/9oxuW5gFLP60tv5wpI2qEo39FZIJvpxEML80lC/HUrE6eY7G/FbF9iKwy6z5GvdlqTc3DeC9QihFyiZOE1YHzRq0MYni609Z5P75b0NWr+LNmjVcv7vwivPLEcJRtjQCQnWyY5vhxDKrQaY= _4rl5xgOHJW9CWRHqqbmxH5Dfn6UY_8.WZxf7XNMJKlchSSICU8Zxd_UW_DH xCCMFVqKUQ4RrX4twblhJ9V9Au1BoQH4DVe8GOuRNUJx220rsztMa.1vumhm 0beopqT3CkbvNxX8gbShJ1NEmaUjlXCdZRz0grWE6B31Pslw9kF9zqcRCC1K erzs89X3K4ysHASQ6D_fyiNV33XZpusayNzJ_gRDjABi9WfWS6jDYrxKkctu uH_slRE46mfhMBLZ7Gc7pLov2ML0vhUxldTzGjldgMmJCV.lGbf2003pnF13 aDF.JgZOoUTD6hcrnhH6RFBES.wPI_JWnGZDYzIZ60mGfND_EaTwaLb9ejJ9 lz8zdbWd4axTeNuWgBJakch00LiuTzc3hKoIbhPckLPY18VMeKNUnY6PQwQA s2ACYl9R_ Received: from [10.98.3.85] (fasttrs@166.205.66.56 with xymcookie) by smtp105-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Nov 2012 16:18:47 +0000 UTC References: <45D6AB04-4A16-4D6F-8E44-2C565EBC9CCB@sbcglobal.net> <61E47520-B19D-43DB-8A42-64529D4CF0B2@yahoo.com> <67364872-49F5-49E0-9789-7BE7B1910CB0@bnj.com> From: Mike Munson Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 10:18:45 -0600 To: Bill Babcock Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 cams/ 3/4 cams? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks guys. Yeah, Bill, marketing is what I was thinking. 3/4 race cam sounds better than 1/4 street cam! :-/ Mike Sent from my iPhone On Nov 8, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Bill Babcock wrote: > Marketing, derived from "full race cam" and meaning "nearly a full race cam" which begs the question "what is a full race cam" Answer: Marketing. > > On Nov 8, 2012, at 6:27 AM, Mike Munson wrote: > >> That brings up a question I have always had. What does the term 3/4 cam mean, >> .75 lift? >> >> Mike >> >> Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 10:46:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB782D10A1 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 10:46:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy11-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy11-pub.bluehost.com [173.254.64.10]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F7F12D0915 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 10:16:22 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 10944 invoked by uid 0); 8 Nov 2012 17:17:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO just64.justhost.com) (173.254.28.64) by oproxy11.bluehost.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2012 17:17:34 -0000 Received: from [173.22.113.197] (port=59243 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TWVjS-0000EV-7q; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 10:17:34 -0700 Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:17:30 -0600 To: Mike Munson , Dennis Delap From: Tony Drews References: <45D6AB04-4A16-4D6F-8E44-2C565EBC9CCB@sbcglobal.net> <61E47520-B19D-43DB-8A42-64529D4CF0B2@yahoo.com> {sentby:smtp auth 173.22.113.197 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 cams/ 3/4 cams? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I always figured a street cam is 1/2 a cam, a race cam is a full cam so halfway in between would be a 3/4 cam... Tony At 08:27 AM 11/8/2012, Mike Munson wrote: >That brings up a question I have always had. What does the term 3/4 cam mean, >.75 lift? > >Mike _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 10:46:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A30902D10D1 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 10:46:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f169.google.com (mail-ia0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9093D2D0C78 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 10:18:22 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ia0-f169.google.com with SMTP id h37so2634604iak.14 for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 09:19:35 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+nxWPQdEZ697Wvj5UUrM4q6k7RpPau386qVwscP4abE=; b=ctu9akroLNhNOqa2VE8hwr8jCR/pI+2GnzgW2Fh8OsIrxOY4IjYGBG22wCSkvRaqhf kOAOQW/pBuOmchafOeDN0t4Ibnr/X0yrccbC01/ZHaxjY4p/dOvn29T8mKfMWF8MNBQ8 0Yb2nA397KzkO8zUMO5YfVXjS0gvVI9pLVADuSzUQ+gitpDECC2SHhcVuvUzTXVNR3ss 2XwszKfGhxIWex+cVHsZyiiJ7qObzeRmGiMX7iNItcx2S8+iduZZbPfCjxIAoi1f+zAN AFhEYVZa5oqP07GT8nIBN2D+EDODB0MIRaeFvhAPY28rZjcbgeEQ5kzS3O+zACewmh84 YN2Q== Received: by 10.50.173.34 with SMTP id bh2mr8756202igc.70.1352395175318; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 09:19:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.91.195 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:19:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:19:35 -0800 From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" To: Friends Subject: [Fot] J-tpe OD enhancements for racing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Anybody have any good suggestions, documents or references? -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 10:46:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0EC2D1196 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 10:46:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65A62D1020 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 10:23:32 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=zLj6U4dFZgXiW6HXHOLegg==:17 a=SaMnt8HOJ8wA:10 a=ujBoYI8qhbEA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=ZwA3nI5LvFoA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=JIeP2QdIy7DXG2LxSqMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=zLj6U4dFZgXiW6HXHOLegg==:117 Received: from [166.147.66.111] ([166.147.66.111:61313] helo=[10.68.27.212]) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id CB/BB-21565-DDAEB905; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:24:45 +0000 References: <45D6AB04-4A16-4D6F-8E44-2C565EBC9CCB@sbcglobal.net> <61E47520-B19D-43DB-8A42-64529D4CF0B2@yahoo.com> <67364872-49F5-49E0-9789-7BE7B1910CB0@bnj.com> From: Bob Kramer Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 11:24:44 -0600 To: Mike Munson Cc: Bill Babcock , 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 cams/ 3/4 cams? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I think it has to due with reducing the diameter of the base circle to 3/4 dimension to allow for a regrind with increased lift. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 8, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Mike Munson wrote: > Thanks guys. Yeah, Bill, marketing is what I was thinking. 3/4 race cam sounds > better than 1/4 street cam! :-/ > Mike > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 8, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Bill Babcock wrote: > >> Marketing, derived from "full race cam" and meaning "nearly a full race cam" > which begs the question "what is a full race cam" Answer: Marketing. >> >> On Nov 8, 2012, at 6:27 AM, Mike Munson wrote: >> >>> That brings up a question I have always had. What does the term 3/4 cam > mean, >>> .75 lift? >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 11:02:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98622D10D4 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 11:02:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm15-vm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm15-vm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.176.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C502D1085 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 10:36:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.137.12.58] by nm15.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2012 17:37:07 -0000 Received: from [98.137.0.27] by tm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2012 17:37:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp120-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2012 17:37:07 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352396227; bh=cHPweXe/AaccTm5yjRcC1OU1ZWYq9bvHkQUScSr/vb0=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=a9D5g5fnBb5wc0bK1QoAFdxNrc+iiUuXgMIxs6sGF/qP5XlfWYidzS1d06MJbKcDN2+7onw4SonQNn7bDglhhMYEpTrb8MSvnH6Yf6ff8/prMchTQTuTGbdPKdEp/XOmeamCjHOm6xPmRNzOT+yzdGMt33imQFSN2typ1tB9NwQ= mcS19hwg5L22WXEAIYdVEHMeQrzXw.OBUL4jBy1d2ISSRq8UE5CKGykk6vJe 6UBke.27dRBcggTkBpnLb4YNRnYpwqC3vpNpxT6q2rvat1m7k.629BAU1T96 iy8j142EQB86sBKBEaWjfoSDsSREa5xBj4RCQLzyOwvHeFkjIEQhaSr9OSc6 nSECwSEiCa1JO867kRYC8Nw_03FtFWJnymKlGSsghR9QpX99HXisRfWVFPBm XewZ8XORUtwBQ1_BBDeRApVe57p.Rx1axdNml_8bbT5Nqxh624.ywgvhWgwC mgU_P2cXBn0_vPFO9wbVfcOiqBg3IpHpK9lun5J7aa6MQN0PbU9f5MqPGD6U uZ4eQsE1y9EbqbF4RJDZTrddWX00Xs6QhrqSAGngvUcNNAdyK3FYlk_bpB8W d4h6ybavYq2.jUi33YN1KI6UoBFDteDv65CDW5J4d.rvBZONjfiJcpzQjtbj g24G0iLCTvwfY2bXvQ.98iA-- Received: from [10.98.3.85] (fasttrs@166.205.66.56 with xymcookie) by smtp120-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Nov 2012 17:37:07 +0000 UTC References: <45D6AB04-4A16-4D6F-8E44-2C565EBC9CCB@sbcglobal.net> <61E47520-B19D-43DB-8A42-64529D4CF0B2@yahoo.com> <67364872-49F5-49E0-9789-7BE7B1910CB0@bnj.com> From: Mike Munson Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 11:37:04 -0600 To: Bob Kramer Cc: Bill Babcock , 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 cams/ 3/4 cams? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Now that sounds more scientific Bob! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 8, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Bob Kramer wrote: > I think it has to due with reducing the diameter of the base circle to 3/4 dimension to allow for a regrind with increased lift. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 8, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Mike Munson wrote: > >> Thanks guys. Yeah, Bill, marketing is what I was thinking. 3/4 race cam sounds >> better than 1/4 street cam! :-/ >> Mike >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Nov 8, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Bill Babcock wrote: >> >>> Marketing, derived from "full race cam" and meaning "nearly a full race cam" >> which begs the question "what is a full race cam" Answer: Marketing. >>> >>> On Nov 8, 2012, at 6:27 AM, Mike Munson wrote: >>> >>>> That brings up a question I have always had. What does the term 3/4 cam >> mean, >>>> .75 lift? >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 11:33:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2579F2D10D8 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 11:33:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm38-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm38-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.22]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480082D10AD for ; 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08 Nov 2012 18:04:15 +0000 UTC References: <3019CC33-30E7-4EA7-97F5-8D2B8E298CF0@sbcglobal.net> From: Dennis Delap Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 12:04:14 -0600 To: Dennis Delap Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Up Close Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net What I ment to say - there is a great Big photo of Bill Babcock racing Peyote in the current issue of Vintage Motorsport. > A M I C I > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 17:31:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2862D1179 for ; 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08 Nov 2012 10:10:15 -0800 PST References: <45D6AB04-4A16-4D6F-8E44-2C565EBC9CCB@sbcglobal.net> <61E47520-B19D-43DB-8A42-64529D4CF0B2@yahoo.com> <67364872-49F5-49E0-9789-7BE7B1910CB0@bnj.com> <32826B38-7B8B-4FDC-9370-B9CCC1BF4779@yahoo.com> From: Dennis Delap Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 12:10:15 -0600 To: Mike Munson Cc: Bill Babcock , 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 cams/ 3/4 cams? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ted Schumacher - would always say to me, about the 3/4 cam - which quarter of the race don't you want to race? On Nov 8, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Mike Munson wrote: > Now that sounds more scientific Bob! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 8, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Bob Kramer wrote: > >> I think it has to due with reducing the diameter of the base circle to 3/4 > dimension to allow for a regrind with increased lift. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Nov 8, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Mike Munson wrote: >> >>> Thanks guys. Yeah, Bill, marketing is what I was thinking. 3/4 race cam > sounds >>> better than 1/4 street cam! :-/ >>> Mike >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Nov 8, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Bill Babcock wrote: >>> >>>> Marketing, derived from "full race cam" and meaning "nearly a full race > cam" >>> which begs the question "what is a full race cam" Answer: Marketing. >>>> >>>> On Nov 8, 2012, at 6:27 AM, Mike Munson wrote: >>>> >>>>> That brings up a question I have always had. What does the term 3/4 cam >>> mean, >>>>> .75 lift? >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 17:33:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3182D11FB for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:33:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6D62D10AA for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 11:13:47 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=jerryvv@roadrunner.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=ZwA3nI5LvFoA:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=AXPswjkr448sfZ8KAaQA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=0vUscowIxtUA:10 a=XNmK4lOH6gVQ8qktyMZb/Q==:117 Received: from [10.128.132.170] ([10.128.132.170:54461] helo=hrndva-web19-z02) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id CE/78-15169-4A6FB905; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 18:15:01 +0000 Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 13:15:00 -0500 From: To: yellow-green@sbcglobal.net, fasttrs@yahoo.com, BillDentin@aol.com Sensitivity: Normal Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 cams/ 3/4 cams? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Could it be related to duration? 3/4 would be about 270 duration. JVV ---- BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 11/08/2012 8:42:31 AM Central Standard Time, > fasttrs@yahoo.com writes: > > > > That brings up a question I have always had. What does the term 3/4 cam > > mean, > > .75 lift? > > > > I always thought it was a three quarter 'race cam', or a so-called street > and track cam. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv@roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 17:36:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E2D2D126D for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:36:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B1E2D1085 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 11:38:53 -0700 (MST) a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:17 a=7KaaxAUCt-sA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=EfGL1t0SnxbUtCXleIYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=7KH3KObUbKHXxz85JWUA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:117 Received: from [67.255.16.235] ([67.255.16.235:55326] helo=Shop) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 2C/07-19216-68CFB905; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 18:40:06 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: "'Triumph 'Friends of Triumph''" Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 13:40:28 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac294IYYLdYfudfISmi4+XRF/AMzMQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] race suit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have a Worth 3 layer suit in red/white, size Large (5'10"/170 to ~6'2"/200lbs) I offer for a racing donation to someone who can use it. Seat never soiled and no red mist contamination. E-mail me off list if interested. Russ Moore Spitfire #49 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 18:09:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8282D1214 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:09:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BCD12D114D for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:05:32 -0700 (MST) Received: by bradakis.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 584692E05B; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:08:39 -0700 (MST) From: Mark J Bradakis To: fot@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:08:39 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Fot] Life is a breeze! 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E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 18:15:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692662D12A4 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:15:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-da0-f41.google.com (mail-da0-f41.google.com [209.85.210.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8AB82D1161 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:35:39 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-da0-f41.google.com with SMTP id i14so1538761dad.14 for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 16:36:53 -0800 (PST) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=W4H/TMOQ7Or9sHjOIxB+5ox4lcHndibkve73Dggg9OA=; b=0LPOrSp6fjh+JGZ+whr8Hts2T2gIrph9tkGrhA3tmeYLKxQUwaufak5tYfUny/UMHr rCYCOeb3E1ett3jJiaRGPrSXXk5x3jILZB51lrjNA31JFU8EmzbySFJDFJ2goV+/xLjm P6zSj0HQ6DN78HugoKQfLDG95lTaDMPUjVmH2SH3m61Semn9DOAT347F7haR5f6rQHw6 nh/rZxZM1BT8zY7fquxuqS59IO9DTxH9ruASbliMK6W7M+1izGyr5nPzXtJ1a8H1IyX8 HabpiaMZvXeVBEU2vOXef50M5SFsJxCEt47qNcg3KcGptPvsmpyakB8kTnnezMtJ+qTu A6Aw== Received: by 10.68.138.229 with SMTP id qt5mr27691709pbb.122.1352415160786; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 14:52:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-44-94.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.44.94]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id qd3sm16181208pbc.29.2012.11.08.14.52.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 08 Nov 2012 14:52:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 15:52:36 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <45D6AB04-4A16-4D6F-8E44-2C565EBC9CCB@sbcglobal.net> <61E47520-B19D-43DB-8A42-64529D4CF0B2@yahoo.com> <20121108174559.24E4F2D1091@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 cams/ 3/4 cams? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 11/8/12 10:17 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > I always figured a street cam is 1/2 a cam, a race cam is a full cam > so halfway in between would be a 3/4 cam... Now the real story is that it was developed for specials. It is for those times when you build up a racing special and discover that the engine you intend to install does not fit. You shorten the engine by cutting off the front cylinder then you order a 3/4 race cam to handle the remaining 3 cylinders ;) TeriAnn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 18:15:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 295E02D15B0 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:15:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58502D110E for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:37:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.138]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qA90cSx4015334 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 19:38:28 -0500 Received: from core-mse003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mse003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.73]) by mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 31EF5E00008F for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 19:38:28 -0500 (EST) References: <8CF8C07B27D4FB8-E90-2851E@webmail-m171.sysops.aol.com> <8CF8C108F3FADF3-E90-28B94@webmail-m171.sysops.aol.com> To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m171.sysops.aol.com (64.12.183.153) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 08 Nov 2012 19:38:27 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 19:38:28 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1352421508; bh=9sMDbSO/64bKTHTCQBODyCv9mb1kHfEhxdR4eJEhrxk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GeUzZQri57xc7APTxXkbp5qU3dhHE8k/w03UWJs53vBRPru0RRBsyofHdXDYAYyx/ 6JmhFRvvB0R0Z1Rnh8GPYXz2F6UuFXAqOpX7+HzC03OtP6VYGNRRhaU0SDxuluuWIH /aulMIFj56dRqpsOzoF0+WsJbMreAq6rIZ0VWKwA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338a509c50840680 Subject: [Fot] CONTRACT SIGNED WITH THE OSTHOFF KASTNER CUP 2013 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Subject: CONTRACT SIGNED WITH THE OSTHOFF KASTNER CUP 2013 FOT: CONTACT INFORMATION WWW.OSTHOFF.COM DISCOUNT CODE: "FRIENDS OF TRIUMPH" A limited number of rooms have been reserved for our group. These include "Guest Rooms", "1 BR SUITES", and " 2 BR SUITES". If you want or need a 3 Bedroom Suite, a few of those are available as well. The suites have living rooms with hide-a-beds, if you choose to use this feature. When suites are shared with friends and relatives, they can be an exceptional value. The Osthoff is where VSCDA holds activities, which includes "ON THE GREEN", a car show. We are invited to display our Triumph Race Cars and it would be great to have at least one example of each model. I believe this is where the OLD COURSE RE-ENACTMENT ends. A must do and no cost feature. Live music and cash bar will also be situated "ON THE GREEN". You can expect that Kas and Peg will be well involved in these activities in historic Elkhart Lake. We are the FEATURED MARQUE this weekend and this event will be heavily promoted by Road America and VSCDA. See you there. Hesitate not, in these reservations, starting this Friday to allow time for computer entries at the OSTHOFF Regards, Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 18:57:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED892D127A for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:57:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8A62D123E for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:16:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([10.127.143.52]) by cdptpa-qmta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20121108191709348.BESA22933@cdptpa-qmta04.mail.rr.com> for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 19:17:09 +0000 Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=zLj6U4dFZgXiW6HXHOLegg==:17 a=SaMnt8HOJ8wA:10 a=ujBoYI8qhbEA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=ZwA3nI5LvFoA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=fVgSXO6FNIsO-AHPUBgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=zLj6U4dFZgXiW6HXHOLegg==:117 Received: from [166.147.66.111] ([166.147.66.111:58670] helo=[10.68.27.212]) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 33/85-01425-5B40C905; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 19:15:01 +0000 References: <45D6AB04-4A16-4D6F-8E44-2C565EBC9CCB@sbcglobal.net> <61E47520-B19D-43DB-8A42-64529D4CF0B2@yahoo.com> <67364872-49F5-49E0-9789-7BE7B1910CB0@bnj.com> <32826B38-7B8B-4FDC-9370-B9CCC1BF4779@yahoo.com> From: Bob Kramer Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 13:15:00 -0600 To: Mike Munson Cc: Bill Babcock , 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 cams/ 3/4 cams? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Larry Young could do the science. I stop at fractions :) Sent from my iPhone On Nov 8, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Mike Munson wrote: > Now that sounds more scientific Bob! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 8, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Bob Kramer wrote: > >> I think it has to due with reducing the diameter of the base circle to 3/4 dimension to allow for a regrind with increased lift. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Nov 8, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Mike Munson wrote: >> >>> Thanks guys. Yeah, Bill, marketing is what I was thinking. 3/4 race cam sounds >>> better than 1/4 street cam! :-/ >>> Mike >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Nov 8, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Bill Babcock wrote: >>> >>>> Marketing, derived from "full race cam" and meaning "nearly a full race cam" >>> which begs the question "what is a full race cam" Answer: Marketing. >>>> >>>> On Nov 8, 2012, at 6:27 AM, Mike Munson wrote: >>>> >>>>> That brings up a question I have always had. What does the term 3/4 cam >>> mean, >>>>> .75 lift? >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 19:41:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B5F2D08F4 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 19:41:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy8-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy8-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.22.20]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 87D5F2D12BA for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 19:20:19 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 16145 invoked by uid 0); 9 Nov 2012 02:21:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO just64.justhost.com) (173.254.28.64) by oproxy8.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2012 02:21:31 -0000 Received: from [173.22.113.197] (port=61645 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TWeDr-0003RV-Jj; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 19:21:31 -0700 Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 20:21:27 -0600 To: Mike Munson ,Bob Kramer From: Tony Drews References: <45D6AB04-4A16-4D6F-8E44-2C565EBC9CCB@sbcglobal.net> <61E47520-B19D-43DB-8A42-64529D4CF0B2@yahoo.com> <67364872-49F5-49E0-9789-7BE7B1910CB0@bnj.com> <32826B38-7B8B-4FDC-9370-B9CCC1BF4779@yahoo.com> {sentby:smtp auth 173.22.113.197 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Cc: Bill Babcock , 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 cams/ 3/4 cams? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I received a reply from Larry Young that didn't seem to make it to the list: Tony, that is close. You'll find the explanation at: http://www.tildentechnologies.com/Cams/Take_34Race.html. It's too bad no one has ever written Winfield's biography. Tony At 11:37 AM 11/8/2012, Mike Munson wrote: >Now that sounds more scientific Bob! > >Sent from my iPhone > >On Nov 8, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Bob Kramer wrote: > > > I think it has to due with reducing the diameter of the base circle to 3/4 >dimension to allow for a regrind with increased lift. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Nov 8, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Mike Munson wrote: > > > >> Thanks guys. Yeah, Bill, marketing is what I was thinking. 3/4 race cam >sounds > >> better than 1/4 street cam! :-/ > >> Mike > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On Nov 8, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Bill Babcock wrote: > >> > >>> Marketing, derived from "full race cam" and meaning "nearly a full race >cam" > >> which begs the question "what is a full race cam" Answer: Marketing. > >>> > >>> On Nov 8, 2012, at 6:27 AM, Mike Munson wrote: > >>> > >>>> That brings up a question I have always had. What does the term 3/4 cam > >> mean, > >>>> .75 lift? > >>>> > >>>> Mike > >>>> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 9 00:37:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC902D0D50 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 00:37:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com (mail-bk0-f41.google.com [209.85.214.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76DEC2D0CCF for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 00:15:35 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-bk0-f41.google.com with SMTP id jm1so1759288bkc.14 for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 23:16:45 -0800 (PST) h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=MQXiRyne7qqiiuYnmLvKTubKkIP7li8z1p9sdV4wKEo=; b=kcnfgoPVRj9GJ8ecCT219hxX5hscJ7ezf8wMi3t8jVJlWAR/TIJIABa4JIiXH6rKg2 9HPkf6MPdkhqPTLpCIECAxP8W/Y2afRq4EI31GctH5rR3YdoPWIXBLQrukp1wZDn3PzR YjMVJdnTlrHlxNCo5olk76u33ik/6KtvCVKwYHslBlPkt7q/n8GAeMCKaHJPdqDUfkhz +dqXdpFP382BtMnHAg80I3ZAH6fto2+/4H88YrEhdADzkKJVE9VbOW85KmVWL26NufVB JIQiDTOrumpcpeHDJarWcvQkYc8OSOEb9FJ15OmSt8aL4UoAjUWWJsLqlcw4y2o7t1fg HwIw== Received: by 10.205.123.147 with SMTP id gk19mr3186214bkc.90.1352445405647; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 23:16:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home (ip-109-41-168-203.web.vodafone.de. [109.41.168.203]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e3sm18235272bks.7.2012.11.08.23.16.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 08 Nov 2012 23:16:44 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: "''Friends of Triumph' Triumph'" References: <45D6AB04-4A16-4D6F-8E44-2C565EBC9CCB@sbcglobal.net> <61E47520-B19D-43DB-8A42-64529D4CF0B2@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 08:16:41 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac29v0uyPCugMhiWRAus9Jcjr05jvwAinLSg Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 cams/ 3/4 cams? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Could be something English? They have half a bee too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHx2wI0_rtA -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Mike Munson Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. November 2012 15:28 An: Dennis Delap Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Betreff: Re: [Fot] TR4 cams/ 3/4 cams? That brings up a question I have always had. What does the term 3/4 cam mean, .75 lift? Mike _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 9 00:55:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700602D0D2F for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 00:55:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-da0-f41.google.com (mail-da0-f41.google.com [209.85.210.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE9C2D0985 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 00:26:44 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-da0-f41.google.com with SMTP id i14so1681876dad.14 for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 23:27:59 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=HdR+pxHRdtok7fN0ZJVQYSCwx+UFTiVOHqqbNHZyW+A=; b=JFPgIim4QWXUpLV1VIqf9UyOHrqpMFsWjV2dBif6511jY+gx0PNPEY3zMJMOKsm1dx +tO1BePISRGzhzXz7bkcqN1Qytp+ukqHub2Pv6dp1yw3PJAn2d/2elaZnfxRpxxGZLRb jdDOImp4WzzSPhAD7tyi+S5N4RFVxBxNJMe6KyIgvTG8o9Eg/5B2/SbkVjgbmJ9ZnPyD CobqgPInOVp+hUplSTxrl47rZskla9dRmGXFA1LMWAW5NnZbfdoEpzXV1cCQC6pYw0n5 l343jSJeajlAmPnJ1N+Zb9qb5t1jfK0CHZhtugXmcZiMpsNHz6jIBrKgfgO9kRXupr2U UQcw== Received: by 10.68.189.138 with SMTP id gi10mr30969945pbc.165.1352446078885; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 23:27:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.5.70 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 23:27:38 -0800 (PST) From: "Enquiries Road & Track" Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 17:27:38 +1000 To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] re J-type OD enhancements for racing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net i have been rebuilding & using these for over 30 years. there are so many minor variations, its not possible to discuss them here. the late 80's Volvo 244 ones are usually the best starting point if built properly, they are very robust and last years of racing without attention. biggest problems are worn planet gear axle shafts & related bearings/gears. the internal annular gear teeth can be in poor shape if its had limited oil changes. email me if you need help or have a specific query. Terry O'Beirne Australia _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 9 08:39:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561CD2D0648 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 08:39:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C112D061B for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 08:15:52 -0700 (MST) a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:17 a=a1-zNaUMPu0A:10 a=0eSod7EuG3EA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=FGU0uF0qmpIA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=rDOCq-2VxzOxxjd1dAoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=qHN0efvj4jjSrVwE:21 a=6ZPog4uZZ_DkpEce:21 a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:117 Received: from [75.86.207.181] ([75.86.207.181:61620] helo=HPLaptop) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id EC/1B-12302-75E1D905; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 15:16:53 +0000 From: "Steve Yott" To: "'Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley'" , "'Friends'" Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 09:16:37 -0600 Organization: Silver Lake Triumphs Thread-Index: Ac292VN/VuRvw7MsQTmJ/ENBDN00HAAsmSIQ Subject: Re: [Fot] J-tpe OD enhancements for racing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net While I have done a large number of overdrives, mostly A-Types I have to admit not too many for racing purposes. It is said that the A-Type does a better job for the race cars because it has an accumulator system which enables quicker engagement. There is a list of items I do for the A-type units for racing but there are actually very few for the J-Type. Replacing the relief valve with an uncushioned type and setting the pressure for about 500 lbs would be one of the first steps. Replacing the Uni-directional clutch with the new style Replacing the main clutch and starting with an unfinished unit so that one can machine the thickness to ensure the minimum amount of engagement movement required. Polishing the pump check valve seat to ensure a good seal. Other than that a high quality rebuild and inspection of all bearings, shafts etc. The idea behind race prepping either unit is to have the unit engage as fast as possible, hold the torque without slipping and then disengage as fast as possible. Steve Yott -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 11:20 AM To: Friends Subject: [Fot] J-tpe OD enhancements for racing Anybody have any good suggestions, documents or references? -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 9 10:25:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310A72D034E for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 10:25:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp450.redcondor.net (smtp450.redcondor.net [208.80.204.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4E02D02FD for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 10:05:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from cgp.netins.net ([167.142.228.73]) by smtp450.redcondor.net ({4ad064a1-3618-4418-b4ee-963987bff397}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20121109170643789; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:06:43 +0000 Received: from [208.126.78.151] (account riverside@southslope.net HELO rileyPC) by cgpf1.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.13) with ESMTPA id 429950987; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:06:37 -0600 From: To: , "'Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley'" , "'Friends'" References: Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 11:06:34 -0600 Subject: Re: [Fot] J-tpe OD enhancements for racing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Is there any value to using a stronger accumulator spring? art de armond -----Original Message----- From: Steve Yott Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 9:16 AM To: 'Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley' ; 'Friends' Subject: Re: [Fot] J-tpe OD enhancements for racing While I have done a large number of overdrives, mostly A-Types I have to admit not too many for racing purposes. It is said that the A-Type does a better job for the race cars because it has an accumulator system which enables quicker engagement. There is a list of items I do for the A-type units for racing but there are actually very few for the J-Type. Replacing the relief valve with an uncushioned type and setting the pressure for about 500 lbs would be one of the first steps. Replacing the Uni-directional clutch with the new style Replacing the main clutch and starting with an unfinished unit so that one can machine the thickness to ensure the minimum amount of engagement movement required. Polishing the pump check valve seat to ensure a good seal. Other than that a high quality rebuild and inspection of all bearings, shafts etc. The idea behind race prepping either unit is to have the unit engage as fast as possible, hold the torque without slipping and then disengage as fast as possible. Steve Yott -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 11:20 AM To: Friends Subject: [Fot] J-tpe OD enhancements for racing Anybody have any good suggestions, documents or references? -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside@southslope.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5384 - Release Date: 11/09/12 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 9 10:30:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23392D0690 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 10:30:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9922D04F6 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 10:25:14 -0700 (MST) a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:17 a=7KaaxAUCt-sA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=40VjYQisb7UA:10 a=S4yv5XnUfAJ6F5HBmVkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=-AzFLDCpXdMWWrrN6hUA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:117 Received: from [67.255.16.235] ([67.255.16.235:60831] helo=Shop) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 56/E1-14780-3CC3D905; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:26:27 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: "'Triumph 'Friends of Triumph''" Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:26:50 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac2+n2cC6U/Xow1aRFSQDqpeicJdrw== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] Suit was spoken for Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I wish I had a dozen to satisfy all the interest, but there was only one. Sorry. Russ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 9 11:15:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E207E2D05EB for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 11:15:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587872D050C for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 10:58:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.142]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 0B5EF1C00023A for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:59:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mse003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mse003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.73]) by mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D490BE00009F for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:59:31 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m137.sysops.aol.com (149.174.9.25) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 09 Nov 2012 12:59:30 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:59:31 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1352483972; bh=Iv0slO+MlUjwezTomYqTkofHjZ2aGP3pbw44R43l3yk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Xf8QupAYEmiQvZFksXro09SR6AFsolLAUdRcvCYP87sZgH9F1OvKs6jb3Sido09Ak uEuROEpwNCnIOszNRdz0Nwv7szEsHYkPxMAmMWqSTgRAmNsG4SE1C3sGnmTut0mkKv XKbcXkQV+vrywZTny1DkTtM0wcsDmc21bhEEVtdw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338e509d44837692 Subject: [Fot] KASTNER CUP 2013 a few words on the current planning. ELKHART LAKE VINTAGE FESTIVAL Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT: Reservations being made at the Osthoff are going well. Especially from folks that are familiar with the Osthoff and the value received. Conference call with FOT Chair, John Houlton and ELVF Event Organizer, Mike Korneli went very well for first contact. John and Mike are both on the Board of Directors of VSCDA and have close ties to ROAD AMERICA management. For years, I have had folks ask for a "non-festival" event with a "non-profit" organization and held at a significant track. Well, the worlds finally aligned in proper order. Road America in September.....the weather is usually ideal. "FOUR MILES OF BLACK MAGIC". VSCDA has carefully groomed the ELVF event into one of the finest events in North America. The Triumph is THE FEATURED MARQUE, and not in the shadows. Kas Kastner is THE GRAND MARSHALL.................................... This all comes with a certain level of self-determination required. Fortunately, 17 generous folks stepped up and have become "sponsors" to this event. Marty Sukey has a spread sheet showing about 23 drivers, so far (Sam Halkias is bringing three cars and drivers, again). I think we are missing 20+ names of the usual suspects expected to enter. We use this information for planning purposes, and to include on the event T-SHIRT. and the number of FOT/VTR posters, as well as garnering real estate in the paddock. As in the past, we will be having some interesting visitors that will be joining us in the paddock....UK, maybe Germany, and from around North America. More on all of this later......please register your intent to run. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 9 11:32:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A282D060E for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 11:32:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.63]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182EB2D046F for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 11:11:06 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=VGulfy81ruSxOK4W2K0oIJwnYAG11MPjhoPJirj6gvWhCwzbqDqjJzQYNw3IT0Zw; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.37] (helo=elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TWt41-0001rO-94 for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 13:12:21 -0500 Received: from 108.64.186.7 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 13:12:20 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 13:12:20 -0500 (EST) From: steve To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Action in-car video from VARA's Big Bore Bash at Willow Springs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Here's a video I put together from last weekend at Willow Springs with VARA's group 3. The run-group held 43 cars including many quick sedans. Ken Knight took the DP win with his powerful and well set up TR4. Watch for the shot where we see Ken zipping through turn 9! I had a great weekend but struggled for grip with my well-worn tires. Extreme sun and sudden dust clouds were a nuisance and, as you can see in the video, I've almost perfected the art of getting passed. Still, a weekend with friends at the track can't be beat. Enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxnZdjN_G5Y&feature=youtu.be ~STEVE _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 9 12:41:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D60C2D0539 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:41:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f41.google.com (mail-oa0-f41.google.com [209.85.219.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9458F2D046A for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:04:50 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-oa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id k14so5348300oag.14 for ; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:06:04 -0800 (PST) h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=t5OrUn7Zd2dh8SDqiDy4O/1JdrCPFTTs/45hEs0K6uo=; b=IWVx5Cy3QPSFIyis2tYEUwwcddPTKNjcgeSKwRc9gknJOCzbm12HPhtF+WJdBeqmWI hZIuef+NWG3E5ocV6AhhzD0obnOzW01CtzareiX6cDVHWjHquGQxVtisTwHTv+g6SUbp kIzRlxugvZh1CHNNWbEJ/JSOvwzucY+DnyyLUfINWMxTc+NlW4wSTGv2jK4+X6f5v8EU rr7ZTNnR6Zq7Ov3ov1Jf2DNaS2aT85ZwvSCOwmuh6Ei4fyUDqtRUhtXg7rKTuKTSUXED bHx1NHUTEKr66ScmJwi9ZrFhgUfsKNg5Co8+GaF6XpKe2yD2dfkJWKDH5U4oJ8a35/Cb eOaA== Received: by 10.182.21.142 with SMTP id v14mr9337141obe.46.1352487964612; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:06:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (client-69.170.103.221.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.221]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o3sm30327155obk.13.2012.11.09.11.06.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:06:03 -0800 (PST) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 13:05:59 -0600 References: <21895012.1352484741000.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> To: steve Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Action in-car video from VARA's Big Bore Bash at Willow Springs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Dust -- you might as well be driving in thick fog. Sheesh. Racing in Gp 4 (pre-1961; few cars on the track) CVAR last weekend: http://youtu.be/sSl5ZdE0o00 Duncan (Texas) On Nov 9, 2012, at 12:12 PM, steve wrote: > Here's a video I put together from last weekend at Willow Springs with VARA's group 3. > The run-group held 43 cars including many quick sedans. Ken Knight took the DP win with his powerful and well set up TR4. > Watch for the shot where we see Ken zipping through turn 9! > I had a great weekend but struggled for grip with my well-worn tires. Extreme sun and sudden dust clouds were a nuisance and, > as you can see in the video, I've almost perfected the art of getting passed. Still, a weekend with friends at the track can't be beat. > > Enjoy > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxnZdjN_G5Y&feature=youtu.be > > > ~STEVE > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 9 12:42:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA0AC2D06B0 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:42:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm7.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm7.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.52.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DD02D050A for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:09:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.52.194] by nm7.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Nov 2012 19:10:49 -0000 Received: from [98.139.52.175] by tm7.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Nov 2012 19:10:49 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1058.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Nov 2012 19:10:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 24160 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Nov 2012 19:10:49 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352488248; bh=i4WEuWUUhirM+4uLN5Ro29vo+Eiu0CJOlEHaZb9LSrE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qhk5bdtgNuovP8I6ROkZgErq2HzR4weW5CNm8mYpjp+bXk45QwcrQTmv9oVVaDicPy4yDH5NONLn5TTgW3WKQBVCcfy7TLwgMratN+SbqaU8/OrfIVvsuB1ByJkOaNwqoYjtM2zr7YP8P9DVExhBitEOebGQj5SDji0LTevLnL4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=knc0jvbb1SaW77g0+5WvuSlIMdqXAfIbKawF8NreIG8RNAtt1gZC1jt2+wUUogkQlrFGgGCJjQlPVu7rFGTocikBi2397t/4gLfI4k21DlrKTEhiiQs6YStU9vw5sLVTKkW2fWu5K9NV1wRjsvvJ3akpIKVh464ukxBHNq0mx4s=; Ut4M.hV32Y8Q37Bii7ZjQoMpWxeuZ7QNEqJm7SR8N3qz6WmdJptxbjZPnwPL TXGZIVuK8pEHsLf4YgtmwiZ9pMyLecv5gqqPWdEUTYCE1hTnwhPkbW5Hx9tp 0X2pf_faWk0I3jJu4XWjOUrBFwqacCFfy8oknmcosqsM1ucFaYCkCVOS6oWz lA9SV0lgFSF9e7w5RmaZ3SUK3fc12IO7m0kXBto.qZv3_Hhe8fXSPFcHcz0W igUS6d9dUoijfoZ338LRqJun2bRfNoWG1U_sN6u2fecVdgzAptgBpfxS20aK nrEh0Zxq0TZGF3lbnvJcOiKmr41UkWprbwhx6N_z8ESDBlSEoWTE5YYD_xJt b_D_.JxfHMoVYM9kctc38_j4g.udeEnAEEssuaXzDyIYcnh3sB2MIreBDRwC is52u4L32J8w4f01s08yPHkCbv4UgtrkhC0_1NtLNXLFwu1s7PBVpB0voxf1 yG8xJPPvb7qHxXQtreqe7VEISJAR_74VyIzTZkdUC.YxkOPY7pXNbZ54SgUM 2051g0I32g4P3dc9bRHnf39IiHxx_AFY9NNXJl5BzatSh8Q-- Received: from [97.78.41.112] by web39302.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:10:48 PST SGVsbG8gYWxsLsKgIHJlOiBBIHR5cGUgT0QuIHVuaXRzOiBtYW55IHllYXJzIGFnbyBJIG1vZGlmaWVkIHNvbWUgb2YgdGhlc2UgZm9yIFRSIDMgYW5kIDQgY2FycyBieSBzaGltbWluZyB0aGUgYWNjdW11bGF0b3Igc3ByaW5ncyB3aXRoIHdhc2hlcnMgYW5kIGRyaWxsaW5nIG91dCB0aGUgcmVsaWVmIGhvbGUgaW4gdGhlIHZhbHZlIHRvIGFsbG93IHRoZSBwcmVzc3VyZSB0aGUgZXhpdCByYXBpZGx5LiBJIGZvdW5kIHRoaXMgcXVpdGUgZWZmZWN0aXZlIGluIGFsbG93aW5nIHRoZSBPRCB0byBzaGlmdCBpbiABMAEBAQE- References: <2803E09233064E36B0717DBF0FA8B894@rileyPC> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 11:10:48 -0800 (PST) From: Ed Diehl To: "riverside@southslope.net" , "tr4@wi.rr.com" , 'Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley' , 'Friends' Subject: Re: [Fot] J-tpe OD enhancements for racing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello all. re: A type OD. units: many years ago I modified some of these for TR 3 and 4 cars by shimming the accumulator springs with washers and drilling out the relief hole in the valve to allow the pressure the exit rapidly. I found this quite effective in allowing the OD to shift in and out quickly. Care must be taken to not shim the spring too much as the spring will not allow the piston to clear the relief hole at the end of the travel. The result is disaster! Don't ask how I know. Cheers, Ed. Ed Diehl ________________________________ From: "riverside@southslope.net" To: tr4@wi.rr.com; 'Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley' ; 'Friends' Sent: Friday, November 9, 2012 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] J-tpe OD enhancements for racing Is there any value to using a stronger accumulator spring? art de armond -----Original Message----- From: Steve Yott Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 9:16 AM To: 'Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley' ; 'Friends' Subject: Re: [Fot] J-tpe OD enhancements for racing While I have done a large number of overdrives, mostly A-Types I have to admit not too many for racing purposes. It is said that the A-Type does a better job for the race cars because it has an accumulator system which enables quicker engagement. There is a list of items I do for the A-type units for racing but there are actually very few for the J-Type. Replacing the relief valve with an uncushioned type and setting the pressure for about 500 lbs would be one of the first steps. Replacing the Uni-directional clutch with the new style Replacing the main clutch and starting with an unfinished unit so that one can machine the thickness to ensure the minimum amount of engagement movement required. Polishing the pump check valve seat to ensure a good seal. Other than that a high quality rebuild and inspection of all bearings, shafts etc. The idea behind race prepping either unit is to have the unit engage as fast as possible, hold the torque without slipping and then disengage as fast as possible. Steve Yott -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 11:20 AM To: Friends Subject: [Fot] J-tpe OD enhancements for racing Anybody have any good suggestions, documents or references? -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside@southslope.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5384 - Release Date: 11/09/12 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mediehljr@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 9 12:50:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E8A2D0683 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:50:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (imr-mb02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273352D0695 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:44:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.202]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A2A5838000224 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 14:46:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mse003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mse003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.73]) by mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 51042E00008B for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 14:46:03 -0500 (EST) References: <8D2C5A38-5649-47C0-9002-63C48D0C74F2@columbus.rr.com> To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m137.sysops.aol.com (149.174.9.25) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 09 Nov 2012 14:46:03 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 14:46:03 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1352490363; bh=jb2ZfXMFpjUF+6LMdo0wyofk+RjfO8l/HLAOfTgAH5c=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ba66b4aKpQY/PlC/IN4bODHE9452tVc+AapPzeOpQzmbAhW1Ei1S2A3hiVxCwuabi s9CRQifna7YeI/auW54b1xQaEXAkYh6/YBUYRJ8PyRZoTjnEZcnUd+lQhLVqRplwkd 0HnOeAMGKJze1QbIK9dqG2hOfXBCiJiSOR3SLVP8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33ca509d5d7b4714 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: OD mainshafts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tom Householder needs a source for repairing OD mainshafts....can anyone help? Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Tom Householder To: Joe Alexander Sent: Fri, Nov 9, 2012 1:36 pm Subject: OD mainshafts Joe I have a couple of early Overdrive mainshafts that I need fixed ,,,, can you recommend someone tom _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 9 13:18:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF682D0646 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 13:18:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C3C2D036E for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:59:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qA9K0mkd000542; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 15:00:48 -0500 Received: from core-dnb004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dnb004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.214.13]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 51E2AE000098; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 15:00:48 -0500 (EST) From: Gt6steve@aol.com Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 15:00:48 -0500 (EST) To: colordog.1@earthlink.net, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1352491248; bh=CbtvCcCZL2Fp0JMYclFFq5wHQXUyg1h3SRfK88E4VRY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Mg4mfVyTYUpN4NS/IQXeBE/WqyTwWaM58JbKkmV/zKpRWKDDuRPNmU7APGNWO+QAg sZVPenXO5AgcwxTo1eHUBziPKEaEXnIoqAaFcgUXrz3s1aylTDXwCNz6moBKDB88NZ iJN/3HpDVxrD5jHzBIIfSzGqSU8q986j7NXJz4uc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b509d60f07b8f Subject: Re: [Fot] Action in-car video from VARA's Big Bore Bash at Willow Springs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Steve! Awesome video! You really caught the joy of the setting sun thru turn nine that we enjoy every year. Great drive and a GREAT video, GT6 #4, Steve In a message dated 11/9/2012 10:33:27 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, colordog.1@earthlink.net writes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxnZdjN_G5Y&feature=youtu.be _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 9 13:52:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9566C2D06D8 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 13:52:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607C62D031D for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 13:27:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.151] by nm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Nov 2012 20:29:05 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.208] by tm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Nov 2012 20:29:05 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1017.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Nov 2012 20:29:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 51226 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Nov 2012 20:29:05 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352492945; bh=qGVYmgbinvmFeruxyBM1JfLyAib1rUW1JIwjKfNMlRM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6Q9RBj1APJzPDA9Do2itRTWIhZ+5FjAoNKu1U9A2zWxplGhYK/jykzRmcTBYVjuEqcckj0lzBymsbMG35ByAxBbknXGFjoAMWfpc5rwvZ4BQ/6p9/vCiEb/8EGhXtLrrwr3A2W1/xz5DCoS/vbjd2QpjXSMqk3LdHXmUcp5avKg= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=z42FS7cHh+18RJD6fLgd4IW9WqZ3anSoVUGWXUDXiZgHzBxZLzigS6Sg6JzWZ4filRF8PYcNuRILoI1UeMucTL6J5JXyMGT93VVdLjT22xoEKDCdJ57Iynug8+kuMWL2otYezyjzdFGXPqbnaYTUSdSI1VVRH6/l6ZttQpVFJ2c=; QNToDrIrjnqCuybuCHXLQYlcw2bRZWwEDT4wykr4NQrlsqhFItyEr0I1HrLi wdZswkurrp_pge93sAZ0jKipkdDAdNH0b_lqDn.gPW6uv7I4rBAq2flfdebB CpDId6icXOqi1iYy6iDFyAKIDv2aaw6QzZfQNSrvfRVJlEN.NDpxJTF.mpky 8nxlsQbSCZ5GPlZTD_Tblo4UkHO7YEtKVTv.J6lRpCRhg6YNBzyqBd8a.pih m9.2Stu_V.c4ZxD_HVWDXhZet0Xuoc5Mr2gB9.3WC9DBwsIfaxQq6nuakZNR dQSs7UtubhaZVdf9Yq7nywD3CCki4J0iGh3ANnT7Vl1TTab9G37P4d52GXSf UMU5eR2mEm_vkCD8abskX31kLmOxTb5oLm8LCzQlyAyxpT_fiUiRZs6XzVSE VF_1sl_C_GwPIbACU7K.XkafXFhYfyyUDy0zHEqo8YlRTW_4e1woDDOMuIkJ 3kPmZZxfDOPgsfo0DtZwjYwkqJgQpDmUOgdzZ.XVCFE6X7xRt0FChj0XOZEd X59hH_UAsZK2MmSSy9.PoYVhyJgzIZmLmBu7onjEeM8K0LX.U1JFzMPWRbze CJSpmpTKd.PiumJx8wKw741HXMjVKwFVHVe8lvqLJ9jUajqxg7ijGgkNvjtr kwYnebA-- Received: from [71.234.118.70] by web160705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 12:29:04 PST R3JlYXQgVmlkZW8uCgpGdW4gdG8gd2F0Y2guLiBXb3cgdGhhdCBkdXN0IGlzIHNvbWV0aGluZyBpZiBhIGd1eSBnZXRzIG9mZiB0cmFjay4KCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogRnJvbTogc3RldmUgPGNvbG9yZG9nLjFAZWFydGhsaW5rLm5ldD4KVG86IEZPVCA8Zm90QGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0PiAKU2VudDogRnJpZGF5LCBOb3ZlbWJlciA5LCAyMDEyIDE6MTIgUE0KU3ViamVjdDogW0ZvdF0gQWN0aW9uIGluLWNhciB2aWRlbyBmcm9tIFZBUkEncyBCaWcgQm9yZSBCYXNoIGF0IFcBMAEBAQE- References: <21895012.1352484741000.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:29:04 -0800 (PST) From: Jay Creel To: steve , FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Action in-car video from VARA's Big Bore Bash at Willow Springs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Great Video. Fun to watch.. Wow that dust is something if a guy gets off track. ________________________________ From: steve To: FOT Sent: Friday, November 9, 2012 1:12 PM Subject: [Fot] Action in-car video from VARA's Big Bore Bash at Willow Springs Here's a video I put together from last weekend at Willow Springs with VARA's group 3. The run-group held 43 cars including many quick sedans. Ken Knight took the DP win with his powerful and well set up TR4. Watch for the shot where we see Ken zipping through turn 9! I had a great weekend but struggled for grip with my well-worn tires. Extreme sun and sudden dust clouds were a nuisance and, as you can see in the video, I've almost perfected the art of getting passed. Still, a weekend with friends at the track can't be beat. Enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxnZdjN_G5Y&feature=youtu.be ~STEVE _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaxonracing@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 9 14:09:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E1E2D064E for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 14:09:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976D72D050A for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 13:41:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qA9KgSR8027206 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 15:42:28 -0500 Received: from core-mse003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mse003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.73]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0BE66E000082 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 15:42:28 -0500 (EST) References: To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m137.sysops.aol.com (149.174.9.25) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 09 Nov 2012 15:42:27 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 15:42:27 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1352493748; bh=sWRx1MP606xMhFpJZzRNt+xWR6YAmRZLt+HrOOEjBic=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GxySrFQopTSmJNUTiKj3RMi2HL7PHLAp/hHOH3p69p/ZBhIGWaU0PxufhKzZmqlk6 KJdwjWeCXAXITTzch5Xg9lNviRb8rFQSwxxInmGIrpmmUa8GVxZahXHasX8NJ2Wj6I +Lnt2pdcNqV0ImqKZ64YCBq6N0WdvY48p/l0hs0Y= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b509d6ab47f0a Subject: [Fot] Fwd: LANKY FOUSHEE GROUP 44 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I am starting to get word from sources that Lanky Foushee has passed away. I am sure many of us would want to know this. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com to: Joe Alexander Sent: Fri, Nov 9, 2012 2:36 pm Subject: LANKY FOUSHEE GROUP 44 Begin forwarded message: From: "slloydmarlboro" Date: November 9, 2012 2:44:54 PM EST To: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Marlboro_Raceway] Lank Steve Knoll called today to tell me that Group 44's Crew Chief, Lanky Foushee, passed away this morning from cancer. At this time I do not have any further information. Steve Lloyd, Historian Washington DC Region, SCCA __._,_.___ Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1) RECENT ACTIVITY: Visit Your Group Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest b" Unsubscribe b" Terms of Use b" Send us Feedback . __,_._,___ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 9 14:10:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957BC2D07BF for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 14:10:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EF5C2D0300 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 13:45:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.11]) by qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id MPeR1k0060EZKEL51YmiwT; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 20:46:42 +0000 Received: from Desktop ([76.100.209.245]) by omta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id MYkh1k00d5JDEd03MYkinc; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 20:44:42 +0000 From: "Craig" To: "'Joe Alexander'" , Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 15:44:55 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac2+tisZd4tcVypMQD6pNDYVy1cG4gABKrPA Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] FW: Lanky Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FYI Craig Marlboro Veterans, Steve called me today to tell me that Group 44's Crew Chief, Lanky Foushee passed away this morning from cancer. I do not have any other information. Steve _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 9 14:21:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A3B42D05FB for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 14:21:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dunnwalshholdings.com (dunnwalshholdings.com [70.166.11.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1CAE2D0636 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 13:59:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::d4f3:7f87:8164:5f84]) by TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::d4f3:7f87:8164:5f84%13]) with mapi; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 13:00:54 -0800 From: Edward Dunn To: "fot@autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 13:03:22 -0800 Thread-Topic: [Fot] Action in-car video from VARA's Big Bore Bash at Willow Springs Thread-Index: Ac2+vace0t5cTgUdQWOhdDUWrW7NKw== Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: [Fot] Action in-car video from VARA's Big Bore Bash at Willow Springs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net As always, a superb presentation by SB. He's a totally cool, multipurpose guy... Ed Dunn Spitfire #22 GT6 #757 West Coast Vintage Racing 2240 Encinitas Blvd. Suite D-101 Encinitas, CA 92024 760-492-3814 West Coast Vintage Racing [cid:image001.jpg@01CDBE7A.98E73830] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 9 14:21:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8823D2D06DB for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 14:21:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.race-dogs.com (mail.race-dogs.com [24.180.24.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F5C2D0636 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 14:00:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from JohnW7 [24.180.24.42] by mail.race-dogs.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-12.0.0.384) id f43c000004740779; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:52:53 -0800 From: "John Wilkins" To: "'FOT'" References: <21895012.1352484741000.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:41:07 -0800 Thread-Index: AQGWHfSiUaI5AKPyVAYnFCFiiQNUjphRN9cg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Action in-car video from VARA's Big Bore Bash at Willow Springs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Awesome Video Steve- Making me miss the Spitfire days! Great drive for Ken as well, you all have come a long way since drivers school. You all represent VARA and the Vintage community with a high bar to reach!! Looking forward to some more karting and collaboration! Regards, JW -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of steve Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:12 AM To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Action in-car video from VARA's Big Bore Bash at Willow Springs Here's a video I put together from last weekend at Willow Springs with VARA's group 3. The run-group held 43 cars including many quick sedans. Ken Knight took the DP win with his powerful and well set up TR4. Watch for the shot where we see Ken zipping through turn 9! I had a great weekend but struggled for grip with my well-worn tires. Extreme sun and sudden dust clouds were a nuisance and, as you can see in the video, I've almost perfected the art of getting passed. Still, a weekend with friends at the track can't be beat. Enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxnZdjN_G5Y&feature=youtu.be ~STEVE _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john@race-dogs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 9 15:04:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D772D05F7 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 15:04:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s52.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s52.snt0.hotmail.com [65.54.61.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD01E2D0424 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 14:46:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT141-W47 ([65.55.90.72]) by snt0-omc2-s52.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 9 Nov 2012 13:47:19 -0800 From: Tony and Annie Garmey To: , Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 13:47:19 -0800 References: <8D2C5A38-5649-47C0-9002-63C48D0C74F2@columbus.rr.com>, <8CF8CC9FB7E007E-750-2D2D1@webmail-m137.sysops.aol.com> FILETIME=[CAC10540:01CDBEC3] Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: OD mainshafts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net depending on the type of repair needed, Flamespray northwest do ex. work. Thermal spray and grinding service.206 395 2645 > To: fot@autox.team.net > From: n197tr4@cs.com > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 14:46:03 -0500 > Subject: [Fot] Fwd: OD mainshafts > > Tom Householder needs a source for repairing OD mainshafts....can anyone > help? > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Householder > To: Joe Alexander > Sent: Fri, Nov 9, 2012 1:36 pm > Subject: OD mainshafts > > > Joe > > I have a couple of early Overdrive mainshafts that I need > fixed ,,,, can you recommend someone > > tom > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 9 18:10:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D81B2D0614 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 18:10:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B0782D04EA for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 17:53:19 -0700 (MST) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=0eSod7EuG3EA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=FGU0uF0qmpIA:10 a=La4IHIvQGYtaot48kxsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55000] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 31/8F-01425-9C5AD905; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 00:54:34 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Friends'" Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 16:54:35 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac2+spu+w/puUv3eSOKKdDEpqZti1wAKq0Ag Subject: Re: [Fot] J-tpe OD enhancements for racing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > Care must be taken to not shim the spring too much as the spring will not > allow the piston to clear the relief hole at the end of the travel. The > result > is disaster! Don't ask how I know. You too, huh? Just to expand a bit, make sure there is enough travel before coil bind to fully uncover the relief hole (or holes). The pressure was fine on the bench ... Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 9 19:12:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3161D2D0686 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 19:12:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6AE2D0662 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 18:56:44 -0700 (MST) a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:17 a=a1-zNaUMPu0A:10 a=0eSod7EuG3EA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=FGU0uF0qmpIA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=GL_fU-e3kPRTESZuyxcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:117 Received: from [75.86.207.181] ([75.86.207.181:51863] helo=HPLaptop) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 31/38-14780-6A4BD905; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 01:57:59 +0000 From: "Steve Yott" To: "'Randall'" , "'Friends'" Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 19:57:55 -0600 Organization: Silver Lake Triumphs Thread-Index: Ac2+spu+w/puUv3eSOKKdDEpqZti1wAKq0AgAAJQ0SA= Subject: Re: [Fot] J-tpe OD enhancements for racing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It is amazing as to how much pressure that little pump in the A-type can generate..... I wound out an 800 lb gauge before I could shut it down!! PS. It will also BEND parts in the overdrive if it does this..... Ouch! Steve Yott -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Randall Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 6:55 PM To: 'Friends' Subject: Re: [Fot] J-tpe OD enhancements for racing > Care must be taken to not shim the spring too much as the spring will > not allow the piston to clear the relief hole at the end of the > travel. The result is disaster! Don't ask how I know. You too, huh? Just to expand a bit, make sure there is enough travel before coil bind to fully uncover the relief hole (or holes). The pressure was fine on the bench ... Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 10 11:27:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D99C72D0886 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 11:27:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9472D07F3 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 11:16:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9A1E138000086 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 13:18:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dsc001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dsc001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.253.65]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 607B4E000081 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 13:18:08 -0500 (EST) From: KENMUN@aol.com Full-name: KENMUN Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 13:18:08 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1352571488; bh=P0A+4ttbNtbfRo7qY2EUMhXnsvm/QvFMFG0/pkeXEfs=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=j8goX7UwKLWhKxzzxxZxysH2faweMxo2+JI/uQvOZAKp6xrYpxpoZeBG30qTOtySQ rgTfE7e5IouJjkva6So3Cj67/30OeRXBzOJ3pWPWrEcv0nUmMFV0dYcdt0uLC0PbP4 APspIxPO06rmpZdkNvkuBb1l0oAri8+VLEMy5L7g= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb509e9a6026bb Subject: [Fot] trt 3/4 head gasket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net anyone having success with the stock composite head gasket on a milled head. my head has been milled .150" and the intake valve pockets are gone. i'm not having much luck with the steel gasket. thanks, ken m. tr 3 vintage racer. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 10 12:44:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C4392D08AB for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:44:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE002D0475 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 11:08:09 -0700 (MST) a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:17 a=a1-zNaUMPu0A:10 a=0eSod7EuG3EA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=FGU0uF0qmpIA:10 a=WMimlZgUAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=nIpY7TzEAAAA:8 a=k4Nv5XzRvHZWWeq4NZkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=p0idVmGAdl8A:10 a=FFSwwSx-wGIA:10 a=7d9T1RgguBE8FEd0:21 a=QuyTYLhFdrMB12v7:21 a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:117 Received: from [75.86.207.181] ([75.86.207.181:62785] helo=HPLaptop) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id AC/24-14780-1D64D905; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 18:09:23 +0000 From: "Steve Yott" To: , "'Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley'" , "'Friends'" Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:09:16 -0600 Organization: Silver Lake Triumphs Thread-Index: Ac2+nKNyZYSWIKmbRomsSgwdCUt+FQABQTEg Subject: Re: [Fot] J-tpe OD enhancements for racing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Art, In an A-Type definitely yes.... There are actually 3 ways to setup an accumulator system on the A-Type: 1- Preferred for racing is using the early main case designed for the large accumulator piston set. You can identify this case as it has a Welch plug on the bottom of the main case where the later cases are just molded aluminum at this area. With the large piston I can get the competition accumulator spring which will easily obtain 450 lbs of pressure will really let you know when you hit overdrive! 2- If you like a softer engagement you can go with the standard mid cycle Triumph or Healy overdrive which use the smaller accumulator setup. I run these at around 350 to 400 lbs of pressure and they slide into overdrive without the aggressiveness of the above setup. 3- This one is interesting where I use the smaller accumulator piston setup but with a Jag spring setup which is middle of the road and the pressure is around 475 lbs. The huge difference here is that the A-Type overdrive uses an accumulator system which gives immediate pressure to the operating pistons when engaged. The J-Type uses a bleed off system where there is always about 15 - 20 lbs of pressure on the system in a bypass mode and this is to provide pressurized oil for the mainshaft to oil all of the rear bearings, bushings etc. When you engage the J-Type the solenoid blocks the bypass and send the pressurized oil to the operating pistons but since there is no accumulator it takes time for the pump to provide enough oil and pressure to move them to the point of clutch engagement. What to use in your car is of total personal preference. Both units have their advantages. The A-Type is more adjustable in operation as stated above but it contains nearly twice the number of parts vs. the J-Type (reliability). A well sorted A-Type is very reliable but is more difficult to get to that point. The J-Type is much less aggressive in operation and not as adjustable but they rarely fail! I have built a couple of J-Types that are hard to discern in engagement speed over an A-Type even without the accumulator setup and on occasion I have added in a lockout switch on the top cover to allow J-Type operation in second gear which I love to use especially on the Tail of the Dragon!!! Again it boils down to what you have and what you would like to run. They are both very good units. There is a key fact that everyone with an overdrive needs to understand and that is oiling pressure. The J-Type as described above provides constant oiling pressure with the bypass valve which allows the 15-20 lbs of oil pressure to run through the mainshaft to keep all the parts well oiled and cool. The A-Type provides total accumulator pressure to the mainshaft through the center bushings. This pressure is a must or you will not have lubrication to the remaining parts. I have seen a number of A-Type drivers that tell me their overdrive is not working and just let it go at that. If there is a pressure issue it WILL destroy the overdrive!!!! Always check your pressure at the top operating port valve plug on the A-Type and at the bottom oil pressure port on the J-Type. Steve -----Original Message----- From: riverside@southslope.net [mailto:riverside@southslope.net] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 11:07 AM To: tr4@wi.rr.com; 'Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley'; 'Friends' Subject: Re: [Fot] J-tpe OD enhancements for racing Is there any value to using a stronger accumulator spring? art de armond -----Original Message----- From: Steve Yott Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 9:16 AM To: 'Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley' ; 'Friends' Subject: Re: [Fot] J-tpe OD enhancements for racing While I have done a large number of overdrives, mostly A-Types I have to admit not too many for racing purposes. It is said that the A-Type does a better job for the race cars because it has an accumulator system which enables quicker engagement. There is a list of items I do for the A-type units for racing but there are actually very few for the J-Type. Replacing the relief valve with an uncushioned type and setting the pressure for about 500 lbs would be one of the first steps. Replacing the Uni-directional clutch with the new style Replacing the main clutch and starting with an unfinished unit so that one can machine the thickness to ensure the minimum amount of engagement movement required. Polishing the pump check valve seat to ensure a good seal. Other than that a high quality rebuild and inspection of all bearings, shafts etc. The idea behind race prepping either unit is to have the unit engage as fast as possible, hold the torque without slipping and then disengage as fast as possible. Steve Yott -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 11:20 AM To: Friends Subject: [Fot] J-tpe OD enhancements for racing Anybody have any good suggestions, documents or references? -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside@southslope.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5384 - Release Date: 11/09/12 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 10 17:04:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B482D0915 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:04:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E5082D030C for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:59:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.137]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 37E781C0000A2 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 19:00:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dla002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dla002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.180.133]) by mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 09093E000085; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 19:00:25 -0500 (EST) From: Catpusher@aol.com Full-name: Catpusher Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 19:00:24 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1352592025; bh=PbWOs0aGDsKZmO/gRHdvl8UHzAIbOz+k2eiHpJG1eQ4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=L32mn5h4IBNV/91bA8yd7YZRvju/31dMfdD11iKUsj2ensf9Qs5ggWkhp8sU+aR3V 4jSbJGDzkefhf8evxc7bCVqJk+49OcEabM6A2UCZaMDpW7rnXSb3Yiqerr7CZs4lp+ WeZKUNFn+lH6na8Q8wZLRorpl8/iJaBfR8TTwBDc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d3389509eea991123 Subject: Re: [Fot] trt 3/4 head gasket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Alas, many of us have tried this with negative results in distances measured in feet, not races. Much has been posted about head gaskets; I never had to "O" ring a good steel gasket, and I always used GM gasket sealing compound # 1050026 TR Regards, Hardy From: KENMUN@aol.com To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] trt 3/4 head gasket anyone having success with the stock composite head gasket on a milled head. my head has been milled .150" and the intake valve pockets are gone. i'm not having much luck with the steel gasket. thanks, ken m. tr 3 vintage racer. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 10 21:28:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A342D0991 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 21:28:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm1.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm1.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.71]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2ED92D0959 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 21:22:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.91.70] by nm1.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2012 04:23:32 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.90] by tm10.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2012 04:23:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1027.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2012 04:23:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 1125 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Nov 2012 04:23:31 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352607811; bh=frZYPuhecnzGsap9IN/yDeTDjTCqBcCfe3qObNw1x+o=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bIke9GMDF323hTLc02k8DB1hN4HYcVwN18KmrQxHaCX6Ow0QPh3GWQrcn8P9DhobR/OBl1uirnSuSkc7WY1rFSFFT7wgHXkUQ99g0SEQxOTj973jEdWcsG0bXGmMaq/OJPVNSdM7hfr0v6ei435BPembLyKSBKsmzyueplg7QCs= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hvz8Ti35mCXeKYJNKJeuEd2qsYgC2BIF9x42NSBIBAGspjUD8vvKBu9LcfMu2M40XbhpUz+7w6+d15ADtv5yePhfgPMrNgYWkefkpcFzFvOqRwxiTVNDIoIQbp242FuBHWj6Obg1v/53cBuvGyns8o7UAOGmJNIiIL6kY4jJM9g=; 5zaW1CrV.uifT4nFvYCeoaXKCweEbolNqnwpX6b9lbVwOq_cAbr_orXdQivc ss9.26PP0aFP12FfeiVFdIeUn4HfVSpZk6EouPxHbAWoo0hvgeE.siHMoQW2 Ew2LBOg9VVAKVOng4zXQE.enm77qAJ_EQ8GFoT.6OBDpOYMjGj9zUGAyjkOc ICCZr6RzXLtww6HfrvSOc54enkgP.Jvs8_Uo83sU.FyDJtrtB1mFOazmWS40 qhScsVSrxAd3OWnei5FNAZjTnvO2GcWGTp252dqg8y6Z0g.NAv33TFgS.3L_ VCPU.kCq.N3PDu3qn9zdktpgGoKphyKSA6ymhdgmDYTyz1_sT4AvIWlNOwRa ZVorkGK7T_vceGCQCy.6_geGcR_0rdGDhTKlhsn9M_K6fayQSXxxfGdt4QAO rJ_0YU6s_.SQOCcsZ2eWrlg-- Received: from [67.195.15.6] by web184802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 20:23:31 PST V2hhdCBpcyB0aGUgYmVzdCB3b3JraW5nIGZ1ZWwgcHJlc3N1cmUgZm9yIHN0b2NrIHR3aW4gWmVuaXRoLVN0cm9tYmVyZ3Mgb24gYSAKc3RvY2sgVFI2P8KgIFRoYW5rcywgSmltATABAQEB Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 20:23:31 -0800 (PST) From: sherry robyn To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Fuel pressure for ZS carbs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net What is the best working fuel pressure for stock twin Zenith-Strombergs on a stock TR6? Thanks, Jim _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 10 23:35:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898282D039B for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 23:35:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733DB2D0331 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 23:35:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id N6cX1k0030FhH24AB6cX15; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 06:36:31 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.139] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id N6cV1k00E4L5TyG8U6cW1k; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 06:36:30 +0000 From: Bud Rolofson To: sherry robyn Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 23:36:28 -0700 References: <1352607811.84283.YahooMailRC@web184802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel pressure for ZS carbs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net 1.5 to 2 psi works best on my ZS carbs. I use a pressure regulator because my fuel pump was putting out around 4 psi which made it push fuel past the float valve and miss. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Nov 10, 2012, at 9:23 PM, sherry robyn wrote: > What is the best working fuel pressure for stock twin Zenith- > Strombergs on a > stock TR6? Thanks, Jim > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 11 10:36:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB9832D082D for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 10:36:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0132D07EB for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 10:36:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.65]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qABHbdWQ014047 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:37:39 -0500 Received: from [10.0.43.127] (mobile-198-228-207-040.mycingular.net [198.228.207.40]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id A1A93E0000A8 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:37:39 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Bock Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:37:40 -0500 To: FoTTriumph x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1352655459; bh=1TBU8FO9F3wO/w/K/lz74wmvS/aTdNOYVbPRkn64q20=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=ZwyiQZQgA7NrWdy91srzlgcFZ0UDfObJEOA+KUxrUCzEiH7bHLzVGwAbec1NWrxfp NgSzQa+26kQhRRyl0Rg3v8W7BuFR+0Qh5aBnTIbsq94Z+C/vI5ErKhn+An+E+J7H7u fRuitzGXEUbgqAvvqLhiKoN0c2HJGLezzf94tZ3Y= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2941509fe2635f18 Subject: [Fot] Transporting Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici. Anyone passing threw Sparks Nevada (just north of Reno) on their way to the Maryland area that can bring a riding lawnmower? I found one for parts that I am interested. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 12 09:36:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C712D0D07 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 09:36:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp450.redcondor.net (smtp450.redcondor.net [208.80.204.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E08972D0CF1 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 09:31:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from cgp.netins.net ([167.142.229.73]) by smtp450.redcondor.net ({4ad064a1-3618-4418-b4ee-963987bff397}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20121112163217785; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:32:17 +0000 Received: from [208.126.78.151] (account riverside@southslope.net HELO rileyPC) by cgpf2.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.13) with ESMTPA id 420839879; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:32:13 -0600 From: To: "Randall" , "'Friends'" References: <31.8F.01425.9C5AD905@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:32:12 -0600 Subject: Re: [Fot] J-tpe OD enhancements for racing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Will replacing the TR spring with an AH 3000 spring get more pressure without the need for shims? art de armond -----Original Message----- From: Randall Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 6:54 PM To: 'Friends' Subject: Re: [Fot] J-tpe OD enhancements for racing > Care must be taken to not shim the spring too much as the spring will not > allow the piston to clear the relief hole at the end of the travel. The > result > is disaster! Don't ask how I know. You too, huh? Just to expand a bit, make sure there is enough travel before coil bind to fully uncover the relief hole (or holes). The pressure was fine on the bench ... Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside@southslope.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5384 - Release Date: 11/09/12 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 12 12:26:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5891D2D0E61 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:26:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0033D2D0E15 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:19:30 -0700 (MST) a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:17 a=a1-zNaUMPu0A:10 a=0eSod7EuG3EA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=FGU0uF0qmpIA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=WMimlZgUAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=CjWwMH9gAAAA:8 a=XB4EH3AS9c-_z5WMnNEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=p0idVmGAdl8A:10 a=FLgMOnt95pgA:10 a=-2q_rdTQxiibIrkL:21 a=NEaHddTWQp_6AL4v:21 a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:117 Received: from [75.86.207.181] ([75.86.207.181:59913] helo=HPLaptop) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 37/DC-12302-B0C41A05; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:20:44 +0000 From: "Steve Yott" To: , "'Randall'" , "'Friends'" Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 13:20:42 -0600 Organization: Silver Lake Triumphs Thread-Index: Ac3A9Bkk6J+RHt6vSFGFnyAhG7SeFgAFiohQ Subject: Re: [Fot] J-tpe OD enhancements for racing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Not necessarily. Over Drive Spares in the UK produces a competition spring for the A-Type which will get you in the 450 lb. range. Unless you are having slippage issues there is no need for more pressure! Pressure will only provide hold power and does not effect the speed of operation to any noticeable effect. Be extremely careful if using shims because if you venture just a tad too far, which is not much you will block the relief port and possibly break your overdrive unit! Steve Yott -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of riverside@southslope.net Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 10:32 AM To: Randall; 'Friends' Subject: Re: [Fot] J-tpe OD enhancements for racing Will replacing the TR spring with an AH 3000 spring get more pressure without the need for shims? art de armond -----Original Message----- From: Randall Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 6:54 PM To: 'Friends' Subject: Re: [Fot] J-tpe OD enhancements for racing > Care must be taken to not shim the spring too much as the spring will > not allow the piston to clear the relief hole at the end of the > travel. The result is disaster! Don't ask how I know. You too, huh? Just to expand a bit, make sure there is enough travel before coil bind to fully uncover the relief hole (or holes). The pressure was fine on the bench ... Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside@southslope.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5384 - Release Date: 11/09/12 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 12 13:27:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C562D0EFB for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 13:27:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp650.redcondor.net (smtp650.redcondor.net [208.80.206.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B082D0EB1 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 13:23:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from cgp.netins.net ([167.142.228.73]) by smtp650.redcondor.net ({9ef01f99-b982-4add-83fd-b7c41c74273c}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20121112202442599; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:24:42 +0000 Received: from [208.126.78.151] (account riverside@southslope.net HELO rileyPC) by cgpf1.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.13) with ESMTPA id 431379770; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:24:37 -0600 From: To: , "'Randall'" , "'Friends'" References: <37.DC.12302.B0C41A05@hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:24:37 -0600 Subject: Re: [Fot] J-tpe OD enhancements for racing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I remember a lime green TR3 at road america circa 1971 at an early regional. He qualified front row, maybe pole. It sounded like he shifted about 4 times between canada corner and the Mitchell bridge. Nice crisp, hard fast shifts for about 4 laps, then the o'dr upshifts got pretty lazy and his times fell of a bit and a bathtub passed him. Curses! He needed a bit more enhancement (for his overdrive). Anybody know who the TR3 driver was? art -----Original Message----- From: Steve Yott Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 1:20 PM To: riverside@southslope.net ; 'Randall' ; 'Friends' Subject: RE: [Fot] J-tpe OD enhancements for racing Not necessarily. Over Drive Spares in the UK produces a competition spring for the A-Type which will get you in the 450 lb. range. Unless you are having slippage issues there is no need for more pressure! Pressure will only provide hold power and does not effect the speed of operation to any noticeable effect. Be extremely careful if using shims because if you venture just a tad too far, which is not much you will block the relief port and possibly break your overdrive unit! Steve Yott -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of riverside@southslope.net Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 10:32 AM To: Randall; 'Friends' Subject: Re: [Fot] J-tpe OD enhancements for racing Will replacing the TR spring with an AH 3000 spring get more pressure without the need for shims? art de armond -----Original Message----- From: Randall Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 6:54 PM To: 'Friends' Subject: Re: [Fot] J-tpe OD enhancements for racing > Care must be taken to not shim the spring too much as the spring will > not allow the piston to clear the relief hole at the end of the > travel. The result is disaster! Don't ask how I know. You too, huh? Just to expand a bit, make sure there is enough travel before coil bind to fully uncover the relief hole (or holes). The pressure was fine on the bench ... Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside@southslope.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5384 - Release Date: 11/09/12 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com ----- No virus found in this message. 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References: <009001cdc113$dd8fca60$98af5f20$@gmail.com> Subject: [Fot] Fwd: [TR] FW: [Marlboro_Raceway] Lanky Foushee arrangements and memorial comments Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [TR] FW: [Marlboro_Raceway] Lanky Foushee arrangements and memorial comments Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:25:25 -0500 From: James Henningsen To: FYi - For those fans of Group 44, Lankey Foushee, mechanic to the team, just passed away. See notice below. Jim Henningsen Please distribute to all our friends. I plan on seeing you there Sunday. Lawton Langston Foushee, Jr * Lawton Langston Foushee, Jr., 75, of Sanford, passed away on November 8, 2012 at Central Carolina Hospital. He was born on September 18, 1937 to the late Lawton, Sr. and Vera Foushee. Lawton proudly served in the USAF from 1956-1961. During his time in the Air Force he was assigned to "Presidential Aircraft Maintenance" and specialized in maintenance and trip preparation of aircraft assigned to convey the President of the United States and high ranking military and cabinet level civilians. After his service in the Air Force he went on to work for a Pontiac dealership and then went on to work for Group 44 racecars, where he later retired from in 1997. He is survived by his brother; Gerald Ray Foushee; sister, Joan Foushee Lunsford; niece, Deborah Leigh Lunsford and nephew, Delano A. Lunsford; great-nieces, Amelia, Deanna and Sara and one great great nephew, Toby Alian. A visitation will be held on Sunday from 2:00-4:00PM at the Miller-Boles Funeral Home in Sanford. A graveside service will be held on Monday 12:00 noon at Buffalo Cemetery. Rememberances to: http://millerboles.com/lawton-langston-foushee-jr/ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of lines.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 12 17:27:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53CE62D1188 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:27:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD912D1110 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:27:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id D679B1C000070 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:28:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dla002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dla002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.180.133]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 79B0EE000082; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:28:56 -0500 (EST) From: Catpusher@aol.com Full-name: Catpusher Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:28:56 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1352766536; bh=yRubUryX1+ULTrsYZM6b5jh7LkwEAXLMloylbQsQ8fA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=teX+O9qH/uYYyZqiW0R4uM4egqnHRxdkZbuH5cCUb0j8G0BYJugdDQiKq459c6KvM yMxH49t7EPJ/jOylLigGRtIGIIhwYVfCLg3EY3MymGB6vVOEMQamy3TDmfgY+u51Fd 5iDPgYdkYaVm8uPNDs9p/PV0p1ImzlQHcvVDcYWc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b50a194486e2f Cc: HRPTR3@aol.com Subject: [Fot] Racing a TR3 A Type Overdrive Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Racing a TR3 A Type Overdrive Please see what you can find in the archives. For many years the TR3 was one of a very few cars not allowed alternate gearbox ratios in SCCA E Production. Using second gear overdrive was essential with a full race motor to bridge the gap between 2nd and 3rd. I spent thousands of hours studying and modifying the OD. Running a pressure gauge during events is necessary, as is not allowing it to leak on the driver. The gauge will show when the solenoid is out of adjustment, and most critically, when there is a running pressure drop. If the accumulator piston does not reach the blow off holes, that oil no longer gets to several parts. The specks for the accumulator bore are very tight, and honing to remove the steel piston ring scratches will only work a few times. The TR4A IRS/TR6 piston, sleeve, and spring provide a much lower volume and pressure, but a replaceable sleeve is a good idea. Much research about piston displacement and pressure pointed me towards a Jaguar sedan assembly that was NLS, but JRT, with the help of a UK Jaguar club, provided a few sets of piston and sleeves, and I also located the matching springs. I did find it necessary to run an oil cooling system with an electric pump and MGC auto gearbox cooler, all set low enough that it would not flow back into the gearbox during the early laps before the pump was turned on. Keep in mind that I was running slicks and often ran where the track temps were high. TR Regards, Hardy _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 13 10:13:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DB12D14D3 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 10:13:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp005.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout005.mac.com [17.158.236.240]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB5D2D0AD1 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 10:07:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.99.26] (c-76-99-29-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [76.99.29.73]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp005.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MDF00HSCRM8SP80@nk11p04mm-asmtp005.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:08:34 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8185,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-11-13_07:2012-11-13,2012-11-13,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1211130147 From: Scott Janzen Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:08:33 -0500 References: To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] TR4 - Carbs, cams and distributors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Just writing to say thanks to all for input, and providing an update on where this all shook out. It started with SU piston clatter and looking for causes - Henry Frye and others suggested I'd better start with the basics and check cam timing and lash. Turns out timing was off by a tooth plus four degrees (the offset between the choice of bolt holes on the gear). The BFE M23-108 cam is now dialed in to specs. A leak-down test also gave perfect results - 5% or less across the board. Thinking the ignition was not working correctly, I shipped the crank-triggered ignition module that was in the car off to the manufacturer, and they confirmed that it was not firing consistently throughout the rev range, and at 15 years old or more, was not repairable. Several of you suggested going back to a Lucas distributor (hmmm, really?) and I got a "rebuilt" one through Jeff at Advanced Distributors. This is clearly better than new, both in appearance and in re-engineering, and cheaper than almost any alternative. Jeff says there's good durability and no points scatter up to 10,000 RPM , waaay above the 7,000 this engine is good for. Plus, I buy from a guy who supports our hobby and is there for follow-up if needed. win-win. The E-prod TR4 now runs and sounds great with no carb clatter, "idles" at 1500, and revs nicely (in the garage, anyway) so the real test will be Summit Point - Turkey Bowl - Thanksgiving weekend. Hope it's not snowing! After that, I'll have to decide whether to take this car back to vintage specs or keep it around as-is, with fiberglass flares and racing slicks. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 13 10:28:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC1332D14D4 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 10:28:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com (mail-bk0-f41.google.com [209.85.214.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93FB2D076E for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 10:25:49 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-bk0-f41.google.com with SMTP id jg9so150709bkc.14 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:27:05 -0800 (PST) h=from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=4e6uNkAevfz4j3KLfY2xkkLpQaZ0evyRpqwDQeGsi1o=; b=eDjH8VZvlt7w6/egJSuuwU5Ae8j3Gfhvp4b9XBak0Ajft+LxLvFiUZJ9yDMTEMjry5 jTTOK4VFM0dZIxrn0bEEukkAso1QVK7BK+YSK0/A4KnQr1+B20mM42OQT5ob2Id5o1wj IugCMQ5nZl1wIYMMsntNGDVtGPok4jf92CDVcSuOo+FTQdpQ5EJvncUIo2DYhzefpZfG ZQDZHZvVe7PqapAXJoL32/TP5g911VUJpu/cguFj01SchoiYRkAv4CjCmW60tgWUoLdL H7dKhWSg15gSnnnde1udPxNmG9isRG7yCN7mI4u2tZoDP5yY70uM1vN5vE0pp5JVhgCc 2j7Q== Received: by 10.204.0.74 with SMTP id 10mr8514934bka.83.1352827625067; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:27:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home ([109.46.142.111]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z13sm6280589bkv.8.2012.11.13.09.27.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:27:04 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: , References: <1d843.28c659b5.3dd2ee48@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:26:55 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac3BNfO4nBfv+A4xTtajXaCJlN8E6QAjb1qw Content-Language: de Cc: HRPTR3@aol.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Racing a TR3 A Type Overdrive Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The only issue I have with a J-OD that it switched off during the race. The OD always went out and popped in a very short manner. No idea what this could cause. - New solenoid (it happened with the old solenoid too) - wiring is connected well - oil level little higher than normal Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Catpusher@aol.com Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. November 2012 01:29 An: fot@autox.team.net Cc: HRPTR3@aol.com Betreff: [Fot] Racing a TR3 A Type Overdrive Racing a TR3 A Type Overdrive Please see what you can find in the archives. For many years the TR3 was one of a very few cars not allowed alternate gearbox ratios in SCCA E Production. Using second gear overdrive was essential with a full race motor to bridge the gap between 2nd and 3rd. I spent thousands of hours studying and modifying the OD. Running a pressure gauge during events is necessary, as is not allowing it to leak on the driver. The gauge will show when the solenoid is out of adjustment, and most critically, when there is a running pressure drop. If the accumulator piston does not reach the blow off holes, that oil no longer gets to several parts. The specks for the accumulator bore are very tight, and honing to remove the steel piston ring scratches will only work a few times. The TR4A IRS/TR6 piston, sleeve, and spring provide a much lower volume and pressure, but a replaceable sleeve is a good idea. Much research about piston displacement and pressure pointed me towards a Jaguar sedan assembly that was NLS, but JRT, with the help of a UK Jaguar club, provided a few sets of piston and sleeves, and I also located the matching springs. I did find it necessary to run an oil cooling system with an electric pump and MGC auto gearbox cooler, all set low enough that it would not flow back into the gearbox during the early laps before the pump was turned on. Keep in mind that I was running slicks and often ran where the track temps were high. TR Regards, Hardy _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 13 11:00:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42FA2D0783 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:00:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 409212D05F7 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 10:57:23 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=VQMheNVOGjUA:10 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=U1GHfSoi2Du6GnQZCiAA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:37405] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 3F/CD-00785-05A82A05; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:58:40 +0000 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:58:40 -0500 From: Randall To: fot@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [Fot] Racing a TR3 A Type Overdrive Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net ---- MadMarx wrote: > The only issue I have with a J-OD that it switched off during the race. > The OD always went out and popped in a very short manner. FWIW, when I had that problem, it turned out to be the little ground wire for the solenoid. The quick connect was trapped on the tab, would not pull off easily, but was very slightly loose. Vibration, heat and the ever-present oil film would let it open up for just a fraction of a second, then connect again. Replacing the quick connect and cleaning up the brown corrosion on the tab solved the problem. I have also had a lockout switch that would do the same thing. Removing the shim washer got it working again. But I doubt you have those on your race car. Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 13 11:00:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8852D075A for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:00:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s22.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s22.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6485C2D05FB for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 10:58:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU173-W38 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s22.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:59:54 -0800 From: Henry Morrison To: fot Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 10:59:54 -0700 FILETIME=[AF673910:01CDC1C8] Subject: [Fot] Any tricks on inserting pistons into TR3 brake calipers? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Gang, bought some Kits from VB and am shearing them apart as I stuff the new pistons into the calipers. Are there better Kits out thee I should have bought since I will be buying new ones anyway? Thanks for your help. Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 13 11:36:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB2C82D0346 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:36:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED8A2C0986 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:20:27 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=CoQrI6AkLAIQyF2Fg6QkdZFbinKkwLojJaLyVPE7hesX67GwQQbxVQ1zGGrQvUho; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Cc:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.45] (helo=elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TYL7G-0002i4-1z; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:21:42 -0500 Received: from 108.64.186.7 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:21:41 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:21:41 -0500 (EST) From: steve To: Catpusher@aol.com, fot@autox.team.net Cc: HRPTR3@aol.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Racing a TR3 A Type Overdrive Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hardy, I found your detailed OD info very illuminating. No, I don't even run an OD unit in my TR3 but I enjoyed your write-up nonetheless. I can see that you've put a huge amount of time and effort into pushing your machine to it's uppermost limits of power and reliability. Very cool! ~Steve -----Original Message----- >From: Catpusher@aol.com >Sent: Nov 12, 2012 4:28 PM >To: fot@autox.team.net >Cc: HRPTR3@aol.com >Subject: [Fot] Racing a TR3 A Type Overdrive > >Racing a TR3 A Type Overdrive >Please see what you can find in the archives. >For many years the TR3 was one of a very few cars not allowed alternate >gearbox ratios in SCCA E Production. Using second gear overdrive was >essential with a full race motor to bridge the gap between 2nd and 3rd. I spent >thousands of hours studying and modifying the OD. Running a pressure gauge >during events is necessary, as is not allowing it to leak on the driver. The >gauge will show when the solenoid is out of adjustment, and most critically, >when there is a running pressure drop. If the accumulator piston does not >reach the blow off holes, that oil no longer gets to several parts. The >specks for the accumulator bore are very tight, and honing to remove the steel >piston ring scratches will only work a few times. The TR4A IRS/TR6 piston, >sleeve, and spring provide a much lower volume and pressure, but a >replaceable sleeve is a good idea. Much research about piston displacement and >pressure pointed me towards a Jaguar sedan assembly that was NLS, but JRT, >with the help of a UK Jaguar club, provided a few sets of piston and sleeves, >and I also located the matching springs. I did find it necessary to run an >oil cooling system with an electric pump and MGC auto gearbox cooler, all >set low enough that it would not flow back into the gearbox during the early >laps before the pump was turned on. Keep in mind that I was running slicks >and often ran where the track temps were high. >TR Regards, Hardy >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 13 18:31:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF8482D06E0 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:31:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa08-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa08-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.108]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE612D0EDC for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 07:29:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.99.26] ([76.99.29.73]) by p3plsmtpa08-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id P2WF1k0011aezes012WFdn; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 07:30:15 -0700 From: Scott Janzen Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:30:16 -0500 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] TR4 - Carbs, cams and distributors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Just writing to say thanks to all for input, and providing an update on where this all shook out. It started with SU piston clatter and looking for causes - Henry Frye and others suggested I'd better start with the basics and check cam timing and lash. Turns out it was off by a tooth plus four degrees (the offset between the choice of bolt holes on the gear). The BFE M23-108 cam is now dialed in to specs. A leak-down test also gave perfect results - 5% or less across the board. I also shipped the crank-triggered ignition module that was in the car off to the manufacturer and they confirmed that it was not firing consistently throughout the rev range, and at 15 years old or more, was not repairable. Several of you suggested going back to a Lucas distributor (hmmm, really?) and I got a "rebuilt" one through Jeff at Advanced Distributors. This is clearly better than new, both in appearance and in re-engineering, and cheaper than almost any alternative. Jeff says good durability and no points scatter up to 10,000 RPM , waaay above the 7,000 this engine is good for. The E-prod TR4 now runs and sounds great with no carb clatter, idles at 1200, and revs nicely (in the garage, anyway) so the real test will be Summit Point - Turkey Bowl - Thanksgiving weekend. Hope it's not snowing! After that, I'll have to decide whether to take this car back to vintage specs or keep it around as-is, with fiberglass flares and racing slicks. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 13 18:33:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538752D073D for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:33:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f41.google.com (mail-oa0-f41.google.com [209.85.219.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431A62D04F9 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:33:16 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-oa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id k14so9875969oag.14 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:34:33 -0800 (PST) h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=CSdHdTLplzXUyUR3hO+voKiQziDeqs7edROqX0XLbMA=; b=L9hTJd+gKBGvbd3CbxpX4SWmIOvAVDhCYylj2gEIwWEvx+ENmQ1G/M1DXpykbtzz34 mY9E8vKJXXo4lB4RJp0lczzM59LuGCvdulB5V42RXOUnKJttP/Jmm1Ua+kFVvRBGmfOM sJzmPXFY1iQBe2va9ygbXYw63A+MYM2yeco3neTjiOIDrPkIbnq7oI59K/7JjUsshpEh LqTWtEFm0IZuX8DIVmLc1BIZCgI5PIeJViCbA4Tq3wF+13W6K1f0ng+Ni+0D4uD8Yrhj adj1atsMPLt2hQrGbCwnOEnzjvxxOXkYEbnWcjS6sjPMpjng36ObQD81UhlmCmnER6JF FMFg== Received: by 10.60.170.177 with SMTP id an17mr19427100oec.39.1352856873238; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:34:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (client-69.170.103.221.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.221]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d7sm7061245oee.2.2012.11.13.17.34.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:34:30 -0800 (PST) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:34:22 -0600 References: To: Fireball Cc: FOT of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] [cvar_general] Parking for the F1 race this weekend in Austin Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You might look into getting a day pass to park at a picnic area in McKinney Falls State Park. It's not that far from Richard Moya park (closer than the old machine shop was). I have a seat reserved at turn 6 but who knows where I'll end up at any given point. I hope I run into a few vintage racers there. If you've got an iPhone with the new Invite Friends application, we could set up the temporary event so we can find out where each other are in the crowd. Duncan Charlton On Nov 13, 2012, at 6:08 PM, Fireball wrote: > Thanks to fellow TR4 racer Bob Blake I have a ticket for the F1 race. I didn't buy one because I have enough hobbies and interests and I am afraid I might get hooked on open wheel racing, but I'm going to take the chance and keep Bob company. I expect other CVARers will be there as well. > > Bob and I plan on cycling to Richard Moya Park and taking the short shuttle. Ideally we would know somebody close enough to the park to make this a short hop but neither of us does. Until they went belly up my old machine shop would have been a perfect place to hide a car for the day. Sooo, do any of you CVAR brethern live nearby the airport in Austin, and would you let us park our cars? We promise not to put it them on blocks:) > > This may be a shot in the dark but it never hurts to ask. we could bring TR6's is space is limited. > > Bob Kramer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 13 19:03:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1970F2D05F3 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:03:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B1882D04F9 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:03:25 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 10so14553908ied.14 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:04:42 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :x-priority:references:in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to :cc:from:date:content-type:mime-version:x-gm-message-state; bh=nc6t4XDipD0IFfjNBBttYBaj0R4U4jA7AHCpd23Ui+k=; b=MwhMmj4nDyF+IC3lBcnuJhKU1Cj6TFr1ntQAW7X4LS6u0cKS/yggbtWwk07GSfR7Bc CGpTz6iy2Lb2gzbUNyrc0v20FjC30pVGRh4ycRLhiIYb6B9BmHYG+N3srhbSpjvh3vfS z2VqHw1ZE+M2vA390COG7sNPh3N7DSx1XCERTWhkLx59nwO72XZY6LdBoaFfMR47dg7G u1oiXh4XFaKLHe+OJNu4UjX5hHg38YYebv6vq6MLqZNRY4YJnbzNGyJlHTb1uI2G+Pwc CqyaFiLTvQdkXj7h7v34VVY0ZxOsPtB79+7TULcBi8VCLzzgQyQn/nSnZlskLkMXbdoM aojg== Received: by 10.50.197.194 with SMTP id iw2mr418992igc.64.1352858682451; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:04:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.29.196.187 (bda-74-82-80-176.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id xn10sm155457igb.4.2012.11.13.18.04.40 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:04:41 -0800 (PST) References: <75EC3F0A-BF84-48F0-A28E-8FA665B7CFC2@gmail.com> Sensitivity: Normal To: "Duncan Charlton" ,fot-bounces@autox.team.net,"Fireball" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 02:04:40 +0000 Cc: FOT of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] [cvar_general] Parking for the F1 race this weekend in Austin Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sweet. I wish I was partying down there already. I'm a big F1 junky, year in and year out, regardless of its crazy enterprise antics. Wave the FoT flag for us down there for us. Seriously...wave one of those sweet FoT flags, a good camera shot of that ought to get a comment from David Hobbs... Have fun, you lucky Texans and others that may attend. It should be very interesting. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton To: Fireball Cc: FOT of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] [cvar_general] Parking for the F1 race this weekend in Austin You might look into getting a day pass to park at a picnic area in McKinney Falls State Park. It's not that far from Richard Moya park (closer than the old machine shop was). I have a seat reserved at turn 6 but who knows where I'll end up at any given point. I hope I run into a few vintage racers there. If you've got an iPhone with the new Invite Friends application, we could set up the temporary event so we can find out where each other are in the crowd. Duncan Charlton On Nov 13, 2012, at 6:08 PM, Fireball wrote: > Thanks to fellow TR4 racer Bob Blake I have a ticket for the F1 race. I didn't buy one because I have enough hobbies and interests and I am afraid I might get hooked on open wheel racing, but I'm going to take the chance and keep Bob company. I expect other CVARers will be there as well. > > Bob and I plan on cycling to Richard Moya Park and taking the short shuttle. Ideally we would know somebody close enough to the park to make this a short hop but neither of us does. Until they went belly up my old machine shop would have been a perfect place to hide a car for the day. Sooo, do any of you CVAR brethern live nearby the airport in Austin, and would you let us park our cars? We promise not to put it them on blocks:) > > This may be a shot in the dark but it never hurts to ask. we could bring TR6's is space is limited. > > Bob Kramer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 13 19:15:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB672D070C for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:15:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83392D0438 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:12:14 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=6oZHGIwzTM5sRAFCUUOOzw==:17 a=8DonS-xQkOoA:10 a=0qdk3FWtJXEA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=Lw1SaX3HvaUA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=7KVKSBW-AAAA:8 a=gIbU1djzRHG9e4j0q4wA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=6oZHGIwzTM5sRAFCUUOOzw==:117 Received: from [74.192.61.147] ([74.192.61.147:59464] helo=[192.168.2.2]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 29/0E-00785-B4EF2A05; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 02:13:31 +0000 References: <75EC3F0A-BF84-48F0-A28E-8FA665B7CFC2@gmail.com> From: Bob Kramer Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:13:31 -0600 To: Duncan Charlton Cc: FOT of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] [cvar_general] Parking for the F1 race this weekend in Austin Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We should do that , I'll look up the app. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 13, 2012, at 7:34 PM, Duncan Charlton wrote: > You might look into getting a day pass to park at a picnic area in McKinney Falls State Park. It's not that far from Richard Moya park (closer than the old machine shop was). > > I have a seat reserved at turn 6 but who knows where I'll end up at any given point. I hope I run into a few vintage racers there. If you've got an iPhone with the new Invite Friends application, we could set up the temporary event so we can find out where each other are in the crowd. > > Duncan Charlton > > > On Nov 13, 2012, at 6:08 PM, Fireball wrote: > >> Thanks to fellow TR4 racer Bob Blake I have a ticket for the F1 race. I didn't buy one because I have enough hobbies and interests and I am afraid I might get hooked on open wheel racing, but I'm going to take the chance and keep Bob company. I expect other CVARers will be there as well. >> >> Bob and I plan on cycling to Richard Moya Park and taking the short shuttle. Ideally we would know somebody close enough to the park to make this a short hop but neither of us does. Until they went belly up my old machine shop would have been a perfect place to hide a car for the day. Sooo, do any of you CVAR brethern live nearby the airport in Austin, and would you let us park our cars? We promise not to put it them on blocks:) >> >> This may be a shot in the dark but it never hurts to ask. we could bring TR6's is space is limited. >> >> Bob Kramer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 13 19:16:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D142D064D for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:16:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 597BE2D05FE for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:16:19 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=6oZHGIwzTM5sRAFCUUOOzw==:17 a=8DonS-xQkOoA:10 a=dbBnKnP-UxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=i3o9HFnYzOwA:10 a=b4TgfONAAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=nR-RoWgiFo31qInLFZMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=kp3uRgNowesA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=6oZHGIwzTM5sRAFCUUOOzw==:117 Received: from [74.192.61.147] ([74.192.61.147:59533] helo=[192.168.2.2]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 0F/A3-00785-C3FF2A05; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 02:17:33 +0000 References: <75EC3F0A-BF84-48F0-A28E-8FA665B7CFC2@gmail.com> <1491781698-1352858679-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1265820962-@b3.c3.bise6.blackberry> From: Bob Kramer Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:17:32 -0600 To: "jason@multivintage.com" Cc: "fot-bounces@autox.team.net" , FOT of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] [cvar_general] Parking for the F1 race this weekend in Austin Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I don't have a flag but I do have a banner. Are there any FOT coming from around the country? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 13, 2012, at 8:04 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > Sweet. I wish I was partying down there already. I'm a big F1 junky, year in and year out, regardless of its crazy enterprise antics. > Wave the FoT flag for us down there for us. > Seriously...wave one of those sweet FoT flags, a good camera shot of that ought to get a comment from David Hobbs... > Have fun, you lucky Texans and others that may attend. It should be very interesting. > > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: Duncan Charlton > Sender: fot-bounces@autox.team.netDate: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:34:22 > To: Fireball > Cc: FOT of Triumph' > Subject: Re: [Fot] [cvar_general] Parking for the F1 race this weekend in > Austin > > You might look into getting a day pass to park at a picnic area in McKinney > Falls State Park. It's not that far from Richard Moya park (closer than the > old machine shop was). > > I have a seat reserved at turn 6 but who knows where I'll end up at any given > point. I hope I run into a few vintage racers there. If you've got an iPhone > with the new Invite Friends application, we could set up the temporary event > so we can find out where each other are in the crowd. > > Duncan Charlton > > > On Nov 13, 2012, at 6:08 PM, Fireball wrote: > >> Thanks to fellow TR4 racer Bob Blake I have a ticket for the F1 race. I > didn't buy one because I have enough hobbies and interests and I am afraid I > might get hooked on open wheel racing, but I'm going to take the chance and > keep Bob company. I expect other CVARers will be there as well. >> >> Bob and I plan on cycling to Richard Moya Park and taking the short shuttle. > Ideally we would know somebody close enough to the park to make this a short > hop but neither of us does. Until they went belly up my old machine shop would > have been a perfect place to hide a car for the day. Sooo, do any of you CVAR > brethern live nearby the airport in Austin, and would you let us park our > cars? We promise not to put it them on blocks:) >> >> This may be a shot in the dark but it never hurts to ask. we could bring > TR6's is space is limited. >> >> Bob Kramer > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 13 19:18:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D1DB2D0743 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:18:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88112D02BD for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:18:14 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=6oZHGIwzTM5sRAFCUUOOzw==:17 a=8DonS-xQkOoA:10 a=dbBnKnP-UxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=i3o9HFnYzOwA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=P1jkh5I-gDULl5cgYCcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=6oZHGIwzTM5sRAFCUUOOzw==:117 Received: from [74.192.61.147] ([74.192.61.147:59540] helo=[192.168.2.2]) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id A6/BC-01425-A9FF2A05; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 02:19:07 +0000 References: <75EC3F0A-BF84-48F0-A28E-8FA665B7CFC2@gmail.com> <6A416718-88AB-4FCB-B40D-39A334450BEF@austin.rr.com> From: Bob Kramer Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:19:06 -0600 To: Duncan Charlton Cc: FOT of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] [cvar_general] Parking for the F1 race this weekend in Austin Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net My 4s doesn't seem to offer that app. Can we go "old school" and text locations? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 13, 2012, at 8:13 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: > We should do that , I'll look up the app. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 13, 2012, at 7:34 PM, Duncan Charlton > wrote: > >> You might look into getting a day pass to park at a picnic area in McKinney > Falls State Park. It's not that far from Richard Moya park (closer than the > old machine shop was). >> >> I have a seat reserved at turn 6 but who knows where I'll end up at any > given point. I hope I run into a few vintage racers there. If you've got an > iPhone with the new Invite Friends application, we could set up the temporary > event so we can find out where each other are in the crowd. >> >> Duncan Charlton >> >> >> On Nov 13, 2012, at 6:08 PM, Fireball wrote: >> >>> Thanks to fellow TR4 racer Bob Blake I have a ticket for the F1 race. I > didn't buy one because I have enough hobbies and interests and I am afraid I > might get hooked on open wheel racing, but I'm going to take the chance and > keep Bob company. I expect other CVARers will be there as well. >>> >>> Bob and I plan on cycling to Richard Moya Park and taking the short > shuttle. Ideally we would know somebody close enough to the park to make this > a short hop but neither of us does. Until they went belly up my old machine > shop would have been a perfect place to hide a car for the day. Sooo, do any > of you CVAR brethern live nearby the airport in Austin, and would you let us > park our cars? We promise not to put it them on blocks:) >>> >>> This may be a shot in the dark but it never hurts to ask. we could bring > TR6's is space is limited. >>> >>> Bob Kramer > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 13 19:32:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E9D2D074B for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:32:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23DA82D04F9 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:30:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7E6D538000059 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:31:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dla002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dla002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.180.133]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 55EE5E000087 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:31:58 -0500 (EST) From: Catpusher@aol.com Full-name: Catpusher Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:31:58 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1352860318; bh=v+3eriFtaC4vkH9VfOcCyIseMSOoSIkn7QWeyYRtA0M=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nxo0Ttu5qUAhltLJ4WEwsvtYnHgQ+HxXlsc4qH7AmXXHrnXr2RIaqVd7zjVVrXMcK 2g3RfMgaOLLERlWYrJneQy2mmlFOnrI28imRob1ezV77qZAHrVo8jueth5/ufiD7i8 DaZz+2nRPyIfl0SwQfvNzZv9b8wa5OmiTG5+hipY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d50a3029e25a2 Subject: [Fot] More about racing with overdrives Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net By measuring the overdrive pressure and oil temp, it became clear that using enough pressure and volume to keep the wet clutch slippage to a minimum reduced the oil temp build up and reduced the clutch surface damage. Flakes from the clutch can clog the oil filter, and the brake ring can turn blue. Needless to say I was not lifting when shifting. TR Regards, Hardy _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 13 19:33:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2C52D07D0 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:33:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f169.google.com (mail-ob0-f169.google.com [209.85.214.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F67D2D04F9 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:31:34 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ob0-f169.google.com with SMTP id lz20so4694034obb.14 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:32:51 -0800 (PST) h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=cnE64h44qcfFZvdMr7koGBZsM9/jTHKFlGJmOsqNCio=; b=Q/jIpByQxrqzXncRB7tEP4wysnxQhJn3Cb10M3ECNm3Q1SaSrEaEz1b8INTWbA3xPU xZyZpSL8lNa0Hvpnf2bUUL4DXi+FXIsZhtVSm4im9KyBn33m0w83+oauZ688/6QIbLCC h8Ac+1aCvOnJZocdosXN/JLJNyq1GudRcQDTWSIEQRCQtKsgmy0zHlKEP83NCbW14lLY Zhd0zEia1mYFUUfMUzp31Vfr6kZoxFZcKw/Ti8FZuSVJTVZ+0+qKVuImrpEqggUWRx4l oahTyaw+h6xXF7BJ4dOwgvHKnKT8MRxYPmAKZNU+Dfm6LKVgOowbbfQLOj8nxmmcdBaU RWFw== Received: by 10.182.3.197 with SMTP id e5mr19387456obe.92.1352860371256; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:32:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (client-69.170.103.221.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.221]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n7sm11738247obd.16.2012.11.13.18.32.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:32:49 -0800 (PST) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:32:44 -0600 References: <75EC3F0A-BF84-48F0-A28E-8FA665B7CFC2@gmail.com> <6A416718-88AB-4FCB-B40D-39A334450BEF@austin.rr.com> To: Bob Kramer Cc: FOT of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] [cvar_general] Parking for the F1 race this weekend in Austin Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I downloaded it in the last couple of days through iTunes or through the App Store on my regular iPhone 4. I'm pretty sure it was free. Or perhaps it was an automatic part of the latest version upgrade, which I did last week sometime. Otherwise we could text, yet it may be too noisy to recognize the incoming text (and there may be enough vibration/crowd jostling/general excitement to be unaware of an incoming text on a phone set to vibrate only. Duncan On Nov 13, 2012, at 8:19 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: > My 4s doesn't seem to offer that app. Can we go "old school" and text locations? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 13, 2012, at 8:13 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: > >> We should do that , I'll look up the app. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Nov 13, 2012, at 7:34 PM, Duncan Charlton >> wrote: >> >>> You might look into getting a day pass to park at a picnic area in McKinney >> Falls State Park. It's not that far from Richard Moya park (closer than the >> old machine shop was). >>> >>> I have a seat reserved at turn 6 but who knows where I'll end up at any >> given point. I hope I run into a few vintage racers there. If you've got an >> iPhone with the new Invite Friends application, we could set up the temporary >> event so we can find out where each other are in the crowd. >>> >>> Duncan Charlton >>> >>> >>> On Nov 13, 2012, at 6:08 PM, Fireball wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks to fellow TR4 racer Bob Blake I have a ticket for the F1 race. I >> didn't buy one because I have enough hobbies and interests and I am afraid I >> might get hooked on open wheel racing, but I'm going to take the chance and >> keep Bob company. I expect other CVARers will be there as well. >>>> >>>> Bob and I plan on cycling to Richard Moya Park and taking the short >> shuttle. Ideally we would know somebody close enough to the park to make this >> a short hop but neither of us does. Until they went belly up my old machine >> shop would have been a perfect place to hide a car for the day. Sooo, do any >> of you CVAR brethern live nearby the airport in Austin, and would you let us >> park our cars? We promise not to put it them on blocks:) >>>> >>>> This may be a shot in the dark but it never hurts to ask. we could bring >> TR6's is space is limited. >>>> >>>> Bob Kramer >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 13 19:46:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C53A12D071F for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:46:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428152D04C5 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:45:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PAHV1k0020b6N64ABEn8BK; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 02:47:08 +0000 Received: from locutus ([75.70.96.161]) by omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PEn41k00v3UuT0T8PEn8l0; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 02:47:08 +0000 From: "Jim Gray" To: Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:37:35 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac3CEQETIPBEXHXlQeuqzop2MB3xsg== Subject: [Fot] I have piston shrinkage Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FoT Tonight I was reminded of the reason you don't measure stuff in the cold. In a hurry to use my new measuring tools I shot straight out to the garage and started my post season measurements after the teardown. My pistons & liners look great so I was expecting everything to be well in spec with about 15 hours on them. I was horrified when I was coming up with a consistent .008 -.009 clearance. I measured the surface temp of the pistons at 59 -60 degrees. So I boiled some water and soaked the pistons for a few minutes. They came out at 92 degrees. The pistons grew .004" and puts them right in spec. That's a lot of growth at a 32 degree increase in temp. The liners measured out the first time within .001 of spec for the most part at 60 degrees. jim g _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 13 20:03:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64062D0636 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:03:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s43.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s43.snt0.hotmail.com [65.54.61.94]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5282D02D6 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:02:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT402-EAS440 ([65.55.90.73]) by snt0-omc2-s43.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:03:41 -0800 References: <20121114024618.C063F2D06E7@autox.team.net> From: Vince G Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 22:03:40 -0500 To: Jim Gray FILETIME=[A6CC1720:01CDC214] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] I have piston shrinkage Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wow those are some interesting numbers.. Sent from my iPhone On 2012-11-13, at 9:47 PM, "Jim Gray" wrote: > FoT > > Tonight I was reminded of the reason you don't measure stuff in the cold. In > a hurry > > to use my new measuring tools I shot straight out to the garage and started > my post season > > measurements after the teardown. My pistons & liners look great so I was > expecting everything to be > > well in spec with about 15 hours on them. I was horrified when I was coming > up with a > > consistent .008 -.009 clearance. I measured the surface temp of the pistons > at 59 -60 degrees. > > So I boiled some water and soaked the pistons for a few minutes. They came > out at 92 degrees. > > The pistons grew .004" and puts them right in spec. That's a lot of growth > at a 32 degree increase in temp. > > The liners measured out the first time within .001 of spec for the most part > at 60 degrees. > > jim g > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 07:12:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913E82D070F for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 07:12:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail5.pem.dotster.com (mail5.dotsterhost.com [72.5.54.239]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D1D2D06CD for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 07:12:38 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 17887 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2012 14:13:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zap6) (list@mackenzie.aero@[75.34.102.251]) by 72.5.54.239 with SMTP; 14 Nov 2012 14:13:55 -0000 From: "Robert MacKenzie" To: "'Bob Kramer'" References: <75EC3F0A-BF84-48F0-A28E-8FA665B7CFC2@gmail.com> <1491781698-1352858679-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1265820962-@b3.c3.bise6.blackberry> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 08:13:48 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac3CDlEgVdo8T2EAQqy4ilunWTvijQAY5MuQ Content-Language: en-us Cc: 'FOT of Triumph'' Subject: Re: [Fot] [cvar_general] Parking for the F1 race this weekend in Austin Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I will be there all weekend. We have General Admission passes so I can't be sure where we will end up sitting. Look for the Royal Canadian Air Force Flag, we will be underneath it. http://shop.flagshop.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d0 8d6e5fb8d27136e95/f/l/flag-military-can-air-force_1.gif Robert MacKenzie -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Kramer Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:18 PM To: jason@multivintage.com Cc: fot-bounces@autox.team.net; FOT of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] [cvar_general] Parking for the F1 race this weekend in Austin I don't have a flag but I do have a banner. Are there any FOT coming from around the country? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 13, 2012, at 8:04 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > Sweet. I wish I was partying down there already. I'm a big F1 junky, > year in and year out, regardless of its crazy enterprise antics. > Wave the FoT flag for us down there for us. > Seriously...wave one of those sweet FoT flags, a good camera shot of > that ought to get a comment from David Hobbs... > Have fun, you lucky Texans and others that may attend. It should be > very interesting. > > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: Duncan Charlton > Sender: fot-bounces@autox.team.netDate: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:34:22 > To: Fireball > Cc: FOT of Triumph' > Subject: Re: [Fot] [cvar_general] Parking for the F1 race this weekend > in Austin > > You might look into getting a day pass to park at a picnic area in > McKinney Falls State Park. It's not that far from Richard Moya park > (closer than the > old machine shop was). > > I have a seat reserved at turn 6 but who knows where I'll end up at > any given > point. I hope I run into a few vintage racers there. If you've got > an iPhone > with the new Invite Friends application, we could set up the temporary event > so we can find out where each other are in the crowd. > > Duncan Charlton > > > On Nov 13, 2012, at 6:08 PM, Fireball wrote: > >> Thanks to fellow TR4 racer Bob Blake I have a ticket for the F1 race. >> I > didn't buy one because I have enough hobbies and interests and I am > afraid I > might get hooked on open wheel racing, but I'm going to take the > chance and keep Bob company. I expect other CVARers will be there as well. >> >> Bob and I plan on cycling to Richard Moya Park and taking the short shuttle. > Ideally we would know somebody close enough to the park to make this a short > hop but neither of us does. Until they went belly up my old machine > shop would > have been a perfect place to hide a car for the day. Sooo, do any of > you CVAR > brethern live nearby the airport in Austin, and would you let us park > our cars? We promise not to put it them on blocks:) >> >> This may be a shot in the dark but it never hurts to ask. we could >> bring > TR6's is space is limited. >> >> Bob Kramer > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/list@mackenzie.aero _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 07:43:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B473B2D0760 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 07:43:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f41.google.com (mail-oa0-f41.google.com [209.85.219.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 943B22D064D for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 07:42:59 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-oa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id k14so584209oag.14 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 06:44:16 -0800 (PST) h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=nmghKWYUVe2dA6nak+VmsuxcYfNdseqhUKQy75s4Iwk=; b=LZGkTGCj6KbAPWjOTvb9JBe5u20qZ6IsPrczesBDEVExQrLgQvvP3VXfSgYJi8p3BX JIsK0O1GRI/LZ5kx0eXEIkpu0Y1Mjb2ApRx37e4Gk1k8+6zMngRVV35S1HlRRUmTuM/l P+e6Okr+JDAFzXXb51Ik32Dvy/6TuylqRH1y8InFXe9fVV6lScbOKkv7LQCUQBk/d8Iv Sw9+z2zOvyxWTfS6TrohyirMdESLFvaKsSAdjIPTMdeo70AwM+oSXW2Q7XMIkHFgPD8w Cy9b9BhXpFGCK7Y76CCCNjBhuvIVRLsGj3Ez9nnxIWzgTt6pfhOatrUeUs9O+P/YKbsz u9pQ== Received: by 10.182.23.79 with SMTP id k15mr21220830obf.100.1352904256575; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 06:44:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (client-69.170.103.221.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.221]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b20sm13085800obu.4.2012.11.14.06.44.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Nov 2012 06:44:15 -0800 (PST) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 08:43:36 -0600 References: <20121114024615.2CBFA2D0621@autox.team.net> To: Jim Gray Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] I have piston shrinkage Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Jim, That's pretty surprising -- what is the brand of piston? Cast or forged? Duncan (Texas) 1952 Morgan Plus 4 Red #6 On Nov 13, 2012, at 8:37 PM, Jim Gray wrote: > FoT > > Tonight I was reminded of the reason you don't measure stuff in the cold. In > a hurry > > to use my new measuring tools I shot straight out to the garage and started > my post season > > measurements after the teardown. My pistons & liners look great so I was > expecting everything to be > > well in spec with about 15 hours on them. I was horrified when I was coming > up with a > > consistent .008 -.009 clearance. I measured the surface temp of the pistons > at 59 -60 degrees. > > So I boiled some water and soaked the pistons for a few minutes. They came > out at 92 degrees. > > The pistons grew .004" and puts them right in spec. That's a lot of growth > at a 32 degree increase in temp. > > The liners measured out the first time within .001 of spec for the most part > at 60 degrees. > > jim g _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 07:59:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E012D0794 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 07:59:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9EA2D064F for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 07:59:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PSEt1k0060vp7WLA7T17XF; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 15:01:07 +0000 Received: from locutus ([75.70.96.161]) by omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PT131k00R3UuT0T8RT17Tm; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 15:01:07 +0000 From: "Jim Gray" To: "'Duncan Charlton'" Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 07:51:36 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac3CdtzN4Gmqbc5fRTai1Ojb8N0S/wAAI5Ug Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] I have piston shrinkage Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net They are forged Wiseco's jg -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton [mailto:duncan.charlton54@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 7:44 AM To: Jim Gray Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] I have piston shrinkage Jim, That's pretty surprising -- what is the brand of piston? Cast or forged? Duncan (Texas) 1952 Morgan Plus 4 Red #6 On Nov 13, 2012, at 8:37 PM, Jim Gray wrote: > FoT > > Tonight I was reminded of the reason you don't measure stuff in the cold. In > a hurry > > to use my new measuring tools I shot straight out to the garage and started > my post season > > measurements after the teardown. My pistons & liners look great so I was > expecting everything to be > > well in spec with about 15 hours on them. I was horrified when I was coming > up with a > > consistent .008 -.009 clearance. I measured the surface temp of the pistons > at 59 -60 degrees. > > So I boiled some water and soaked the pistons for a few minutes. They came > out at 92 degrees. > > The pistons grew .004" and puts them right in spec. That's a lot of growth > at a 32 degree increase in temp. > > The liners measured out the first time within .001 of spec for the most part > at 60 degrees. > > jim g _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 09:59:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B342D07AD for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:59:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail5.pem.dotster.com (mail5.dotsterhost.com [72.5.54.239]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BD82D0405 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:52:16 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 16249 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2012 16:53:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zap6) (list@mackenzie.aero@[75.34.102.251]) by 72.5.54.239 with SMTP; 14 Nov 2012 16:53:33 -0000 From: "Robert MacKenzie" To: "'FOT of Triumph''" Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:53:26 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac3CiJERYIuBKAhpRwaTCcm5tVroKQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] F1 pass for Friday Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have an extra General Admission Pass for the F1 event for Friday. Free to a good home if you promise to use it. You will have to pick it up tomorrow or Friday AM. Contact me on (two one zero) four one five - five one zero seven Robert MacKenzie _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 14:44:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 875C52D07C4 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:44:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mercury.fastbytes.com (mercury.fastbytes.com [216.183.230.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809572D0760 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:43:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from TimDellVostro [216.183.226.236] by mercury.fastbytes.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.00) id A0DC1AE800D6; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 15:45:00 -0600 From: "Tim Murphy" To: "'Jim Gray'" , "'Duncan Charlton'" References: <707133FB-AFB0-4BB5-A4EE-95AB5E95F884@gmail.com> <20121114150016.AB7FD2D07D9@autox.team.net> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 15:47:01 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac3CdtzN4Gmqbc5fRTai1Ojb8N0S/wAAI5UgAA6FO7A= Content-Language: en-us Organization: FastBytesWireless Inc. Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] I have piston shrinkage Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That must be why Wiseco wants 0.006 clearance with their forged pistons. Tim -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Gray Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 8:52 AM To: 'Duncan Charlton' Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] I have piston shrinkage They are forged Wiseco's jg -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton [mailto:duncan.charlton54@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 7:44 AM To: Jim Gray Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] I have piston shrinkage Jim, That's pretty surprising -- what is the brand of piston? Cast or forged? Duncan (Texas) 1952 Morgan Plus 4 Red #6 On Nov 13, 2012, at 8:37 PM, Jim Gray wrote: > FoT > > Tonight I was reminded of the reason you don't measure stuff in the cold. In > a hurry > > to use my new measuring tools I shot straight out to the garage and started > my post season > > measurements after the teardown. My pistons & liners look great so I was > expecting everything to be > > well in spec with about 15 hours on them. I was horrified when I was coming > up with a > > consistent .008 -.009 clearance. I measured the surface temp of the pistons > at 59 -60 degrees. > > So I boiled some water and soaked the pistons for a few minutes. They came > out at 92 degrees. > > The pistons grew .004" and puts them right in spec. That's a lot of growth > at a 32 degree increase in temp. > > The liners measured out the first time within .001 of spec for the most part > at 60 degrees. > > jim g _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph@fastbytes.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 18:22:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB542D0854 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:22:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com (outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com [64.136.47.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BF4C22D0385 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:22:03 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1352942599; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=YdD8DgKqW9dRJmNKFTTUk/gYoKElZhMrBEtd7dwpXlqc0pmGaL3t+2Vaovx5ZFBds piXx24pk8CNtPn4iZ18FllZta9teRiy2kezuTtaIW2bn7v8y/niusp3WFklw4rfY4a VAzIZAx6lZ69kDNA5yaVqfAhH90H6F6ZhGOgs+zM= Received: from outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com (webmail07.dca.untd.com [10.171.12.147]) by smtpout01.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABJLJS9DAKTYAPJ for (sender ); Wed, 14 Nov 2012 17:22:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [76.23.185.62] by webmail07.dca.untd.com with HTTP: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 01:21:07 GMT From: "Joe Boruch" Full-Name: "Joe Boruch" Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 01:21:07 GMT To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] I have piston shrinkage Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Maybe that is why when I ran Wiseco's I was scoring cylinder walls running their specified clearance. They grow too much. Had to run much more clearance (don't ask me how much - it was too long ago since I stopped using them) and that stopped the scoring. Using custom made Diamond pistons and cylinder wall scoring has not been a problem. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Jim Gray" To: "'Duncan Charlton'" Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] I have piston shrinkage Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 07:51:36 -0700 They are forged Wiseco's jg -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton [mailto:duncan.charlton54@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 7:44 AM To: Jim Gray Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] I have piston shrinkage Jim, That's pretty surprising -- what is the brand of piston? Cast or forged? Duncan (Texas) 1952 Morgan Plus 4 Red #6 ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 19:23:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA4E2D0867 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 19:23:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F0C22D033A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 19:19:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.20]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PRny1k00E0S2fkCA1eM0TL; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 02:21:00 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([24.22.75.60]) by omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PeLz1k0011J37AG8VeLzsM; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 02:20:59 +0000 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:20:59 -0800 From: Jim Norlin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <20121114024611.ADC7A2D06C4@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] I have piston shrinkage Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I no longer build my own Spitfire engines so I'm not sure what the clearances are, but I have noticed something similar in the sound of the engine during warm up. Last year, I ran some early season races where the temperature was down in the 40's over night. Upon starting the engine, I had a noise that was evidently piston slap until the engine warmed up a bit. Once warm, no noise and the engine ran great. That went away once the low temps warmed up during the summer. This year, we only ran in the summer and the piston slap was never noticeable. On 11/13/2012 6:37 PM, Jim Gray wrote: > FoT > > Tonight I was reminded of the reason you don't measure stuff in the cold. In > a hurry > > to use my new measuring tools I shot straight out to the garage and started > my post season > > measurements after the teardown. My pistons & liners look great so I was > expecting everything to be > > well in spec with about 15 hours on them. I was horrified when I was coming > up with a > > consistent .008 -.009 clearance. I measured the surface temp of the pistons > at 59 -60 degrees. > > So I boiled some water and soaked the pistons for a few minutes. They came > out at 92 degrees. > > The pistons grew .004" and puts them right in spec. That's a lot of growth > at a 32 degree increase in temp. > > The liners measured out the first time within .001 of spec for the most part > at 60 degrees. > > jim g > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/norlinengineering@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 19:54:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96192D0933 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 19:54:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com (mail-vc0-f169.google.com [209.85.220.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F1E2D07D1 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 19:50:33 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id fl17so1477589vcb.14 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:51:51 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=z4yDiqFC8quRi0u61eTZaCCEja22yGn3/diDp8pVk+M=; b=NP2airjnskOgbmRpT52GsyS6WF7P7m8qb6nlq5IMpkb12U8yPk8jthOYbhS3iGuthK +4YzFc8vT8G65AFh91KDYE3j1NduUseJCakFZE2dCe8x5PKI84fN/O0oJTjFEZzJMLu5 tOgXlZKGLPQwlAp5XFPSS2lvdwZ9+vAWgitr1yjGob7TirgxYjuELrpWzG5unzoWZHfG zlRzNg9FtT5KXwV/fRl4fRicSI7HT5GZ0hjIo+hduGCGsXtSj8hn6K29clsHTMjAyIXG dgCMoBV4bqVZPCROi2xx5cvirjHh+dOmSFcW8rww5ZiCHt4TLmXMaC8MTrQa5PXMKoHe pKXQ== Received: by 10.58.247.132 with SMTP id ye4mr35419805vec.9.1352947911309; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:51:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.249.139 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:51:31 -0800 (PST) From: "Enquiries Road & Track" Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:51:31 +1000 To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Re J-type OD enhancements for racing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net it seems most of you are talking about A type stuff, none of this is relevant to the posters query on J type if anyone wants a really tuff A type, then look for the ones made by Italians A.E. Bianci under licence to Laycock, for Ferrari (330 models etc up to 1965 when the 5 speed came into use). These use the "conventional" Laycock front case but have a much bigger rear case with huge planet gears and pins, to better handle the torque of the big ferrari for the J type. we use modified Dolomite Sprint & Volvo ones as they have a fuller front case making it less likely to distort. I still have the laycock drawing re mods to the pistons in the early versions of these o/d's, but as these have not been around for years , it is probably irrelevant. best to start with a unit from early 80's Volvo 244 or go buy a brand new one from Gear Vendors in USA the changes needed to the J type for race use are: - open up the Z port drilling - shim up annulus gear to reduce clutch travel to its absolute minimum - check the lining & carrier is true and not wobbling (this causes erratic contact patches) - fit new nitrided planet gear pins & cryo treat the gears & needle bearings - very careful assembly of the hydraulic valve in the solenoid we get about 3-4 years racing per rebuild. we have no noticeable slippage on change and can make a change into overdrive faster that a change of gears. by using a carefully selected ratio set, we can get a very useable 3rd overdrive which we race with all the time in our Historic 2.5PI Terry O' Beirne Australia _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 15 17:18:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6222D0531 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 17:18:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.55.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8EDF82D04C2 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 17:18:25 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 15068 invoked by uid 0); 15 Nov 2012 05:36:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO just64.justhost.com) (173.254.28.64) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 15 Nov 2012 05:36:53 -0000 Received: from [173.22.113.197] (port=49783 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TYs8D-0008FJ-1N; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:36:53 -0700 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 23:36:54 -0600 To: KENMUN@aol.com,fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews References: <11209.5b862d85.3dcff460@aol.com> {sentby:smtp auth 173.22.113.197 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] trt 3/4 head gasket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I use a stock composite gasket and will get a season out of it. I was at about 0.175 milled, am now at 0.130 after my last head gasket problem turned out to be a collapsing combustion chamber in the head problem. I don't have giant valves (they clear the 87 mm liners), so I notched the liner to match the "mickey ear" of the stock gasket so there was something supporting it on one side in the pocket that disappeared. I put the seam side against the liner then. Tony Drews At 12:18 PM 11/10/2012, KENMUN@aol.com wrote: >anyone having success with the stock composite head gasket on a milled >head. my head has been milled .150" and the intake valve pockets are >gone. i'm >not having much luck with the steel gasket. >thanks, ken m. tr 3 vintage racer. >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 15 18:12:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E04EC2D0948 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:12:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm8-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm8-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 552112D0936 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:12:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.149] by nm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Nov 2012 01:17:38 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.104] by tm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Nov 2012 01:17:38 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1009.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Nov 2012 01:17:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 51543 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Nov 2012 01:17:38 -0000 s=s1024; t=1353028658; bh=5qDwfx60xHJydVqtPVfRYmUgzLxldcw6b6zqcjx79no=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=iB8p9aVNwL+oTuF7v90awTbrYNrzdZxw52oLpZBNnm4+Qpo9HjzYMCveSeUTrg8KKRiVd6QgYzofMmvTCdvA79LU7synP3Wde47WmJOFhyUOkBrpQo1rUtSZk9gq7RMb6YcnXghlLa9OkvcD3lsvmq4kV+6JrhR50G87gWYl310= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KTz1K+lyWLGtqfs1jk7d+HKvIMVsjsnRBuc4G6/QsrO2gWWt6QsAyFjWBeQ4XFkHoo2ah1TjCNCNdP5lud4Gfq0PFL0uY0owdOsO2wxZI4G4P5nQ5cktWPzSGdUwu4/D9AUBQZRfAI8dXJEWBSrXInoKt0xkBRU1UUyN+mmqtig=; C6ZqpPBEtzj1GxMvpoE1ib6oh385l3oE0MFcjHwJOUy6PUnBCrU5tTmtWJ5. lfXDAEMqUgvNoQ5b8kX0VDuKC5Hv7tGzWJS_gVw3XqPmj0NR2oj819zB2sn2 BRFzhxfARKOrqVc28phgXPiV0SuL.xgoh5znUplmkCKM7v12U1AghhS_6hi4 chEzqBKpqpYBJLBvXkC8my48YX4lZ9rMRtCNtbn4nTvXGLpboIeC5iP4YRDc Qpc86Txq.UOJEW.HYfafaQXbZN_Vo491IYesqxZHW.DvbbyJxgumx4FPQPj3 y4FqHt7G9LtN9DA.FBa8iXMfhpJO3mGU0XY7REMO.znd_fjRzEIkPFl_eor0 Dyd8Zq9p4oaVYlUbT0iLItt_9O2AXBRWLkH4FJpoKPWZNLHA- Received: from [76.221.83.131] by web182205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 17:17:37 PST SSBwb3N0ZWQgYSBjb3VwbGUgb2YgdmlkZW9zIG9uIG15IFlPVVRVQkUgcGFnZS4uLi4gQm9iYnkgV2hpdGVoZWFkIGlzIG15IApwYWdlLi5kdWguLi4gbm90IEFMTCBUcml1bXBoIGFsdGhvdWdoIHRoZXJlIGFyZSB0d28gZ2xvcnkgc2Vzc2lvbnMgaW4gbXkgR1QtNisgCmF0IFRXUyBpbiBGZWJydWFyeS4uLiBzbywgbm8gc2xhZ2dpbmcgbWUgZm9yIGEgR1RBIHBvc3QsIEkgaGFkIHRvIHVubG9hZCB0aGUgClNwaXRmaXJlIG9mZiBteSB0cmFpbGVyIHRvIGxvYWQgdGhlIEdUQS4uLiBzbywgMiBUcml1bXBocyABMAEBAQE- Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 17:17:37 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] new video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I posted a couple of videos on my YOUTUBE page.... Bobby Whitehead is my page..duh... not ALL Triumph although there are two glory sessions in my GT-6+ at TWS in February... so, no slagging me for a GTA post, I had to unload the Spitfire off my trailer to load the GTA... so, 2 Triumphs in the garage, one in the trailer... so, still FOT FOREVER.. Bobby Whitehead _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 15 18:17:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A4D2D0942 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:17:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail175c2.megamailservers.com (mail175c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E19DA2D0702 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:17:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.252.13.201] (226.sub-174-254-146.myvzw.com [174.254.146.226]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail175c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id qAG1MA2o028576 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:22:13 -0500 References: <11209.5b862d85.3dcff460@aol.com> <20121116001854.DD7102D0940@autox.team.net> From: John Hasty Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:22:08 -0500 To: Tony Drews a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=/Cmf+aMjFxdlaRxF0trUPg==:17 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=PgE1YbDAXfddL_5XOvEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=/Cmf+aMjFxdlaRxF0trUPg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] trt 3/4 head gasket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Like Tony we use a stock Payen gasket notched to fit the larger valve with no problem. My take is that one must make sure the head & block are flat & true & properly installed. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 15, 2012, at 12:36 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > I use a stock composite gasket and will get a season out of it. I was at about 0.175 milled, am now at 0.130 after my last head gasket problem turned out to be a collapsing combustion chamber in the head problem. I don't have giant valves (they clear the 87 mm liners), so I notched the liner to match the "mickey ear" of the stock gasket so there was something supporting it on one side in the pocket that disappeared. I put the seam side against the liner then. > > Tony Drews > > At 12:18 PM 11/10/2012, KENMUN@aol.com wrote: >> anyone having success with the stock composite head gasket on a milled >> head. my head has been milled .150" and the intake valve pockets are gone. i'm >> not having much luck with the steel gasket. >> thanks, ken m. tr 3 vintage racer. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 15 19:37:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35142D0909 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:37:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C1142D08FB for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:36:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qAG2fxI9004215; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 21:41:59 -0500 Received: from core-msd004a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.13]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D6245E000089; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 21:41:58 -0500 (EST) References: <11209.5b862d85.3dcff460@aol.com> <20121116001854.DD7102D0940@autox.team.net> <442C34F9-400C-4840-AF40-3145B767EF30@gdhs.com> To: jhhasty@gdhs.com, tony@tonydrews.com Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m050.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.82) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 15 Nov 2012 21:41:58 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 21:41:58 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1353033719; bh=sdgxGG7oAh2HhakQEVEo0my2lWQK2UR6VYQJnE/cjrc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EGigjMCMoErHwQQT/HwkFRXUglUt/AEenlCtSq6ZC9t40TrWMouqcR1fzIsfjcN/p 4dez7/wTFCymrrrlUAH+BEdkWqWxI9Og/9nQAgBRoyb6PsAMuUv4aGib+TwH39aonh tVrSuhdGLxVrJJLfsIuBi/RWYxMJ7bAA95EyX84o= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294850a5a7f6521a Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] trt 3/4 head gasket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ditto...Using Payen for several years now and has been one less thing to worry about. Joe Alexander Subject: Re: [Fot] trt 3/4 head gasket Like Tony we use a stock Payen gasket notched to fit the larger valve with no problem. My take is that one must make sure the head & block are flat & true & properly installed. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 15, 2012, at 12:36 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > I use a stock composite gasket and will get a season out of it. I was at about 0.175 milled, am now at 0.130 after my last head gasket problem turned out to be a collapsing combustion chamber in the head problem. I don't have giant valves (they clear the 87 mm liners), so I notched the liner to match the "mickey ear" of the stock gasket so there was something supporting it on one side in the pocket that disappeared. I put the seam side against the liner then. > > Tony Drews > > At 12:18 PM 11/10/2012, KENMUN@aol.com wrote: >> anyone having success with the stock composite head gasket on a milled >> head. my head has been milled .150" and the intake valve pockets are gone. i'm >> not having much luck with the steel gasket. >> thanks, ken m. tr 3 vintage racer. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 15 19:51:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 488732D0973 for ; 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Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:56:53 PST DQpGb3IgYW55IEZPVCdlcnMgZ29pbmcgdG8gdGhlIEYxIHJhY2UgdGhpcyB3ZWVrZW5kLiBUaGlzIGNhbWUgYWNyb3NzIG15IHJhY2luZyBoaXN0b3J5IGxpc3QuDQotRWQtDQoNCi0tLSBPbiBUaHUsIDExLzE1LzEyLCBSYW5kYWxsIDxuZHJqYzFAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ.IHdyb3RlOg0KDQoNCkZyb206IFJhbmRhbGwgPG5kcmpjMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldD4NClN1YmplY3Q6IFtSSF0gUmU6IE9UIC0tIGZyZXF1ZW5jaWVzIGZvciB0aGUgd2Vla2VuZD8_DQpUbzogUmFjaW5nSGlzdG9yeUB5YWhvb2dyb3Vwcy5jb20BMAEBAQE- Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:56:53 -0800 (PST) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Fw:Frequencies for the weekend?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net For any FOT'ers going to the F1 race this weekend. This came across my racing history list. -Ed- --- On Thu, 11/15/12, Randall wrote: From: Randall Subject: [RH] Re: OT -- frequencies for the weekend?? To: RacingHistory@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012, 8:29 PM B Bill: Maybe something has changed but a couple of years ago the race team frequencies for F1 were encrypted. However, I think you can set up your scanner across a wide range and search for both the public address and F1 international broadcast (both television and radio) and then listen to them. Also, the Circuit of the Americas is handling their race control issues (observers, track officials, etc.) communications over multiple frequencies. Here's a list of some them. At least this should be a start for something interestin to listen to. http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?action=fle&os=0&s=city&stid=48&en=CIRC UIT%20OF%20THE%20AMERICAS%20LLC Randall Cook Indianapolis, IN --- In RacingHistory@yahoogroups.com, "Blaylock, Bill" wrote: > > This is OT, but does anyone have radio frequencies for the Formula 1 crowd, or know where I could find them? > > > Regards, > Bill Blaylock > Dallas, Texas > > __._,_.___ Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (3) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group Please Remember "The Len Sutton Rule"..... Each posting shall include full name and city/state. Thanks.B Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest b" Unsubscribe b" Terms of Use b" Send us Feedback . __,_._,___ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 19 11:33:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4944B438D1 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:33:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f41.google.com (mail-oa0-f41.google.com [209.85.219.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F3843892 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:33:34 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-oa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id k14so6462039oag.14 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 10:34:35 -0800 (PST) h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=GZFla2BQID4A/cD+ePNF26LHEWUVRpYjH9C/t/+UdNs=; b=Ama158ugb212fHd0zaMP0YGKAu6rFBuTBqb0ZoV47sBgXap3xGFSDhOKBvPaPhUssK w3MCEY+i4wNmOaHU5MorhOuEupxJnF/8//Ba/1gMVMw5CNZQ+kBeUdyW38gxsVwcR3rf tI3WaJtVgWNea/jb90dvnYwSDOH5vhkFTtQSOHKrq7Ya+cyMCO8ms3SCrY2wwwsMpf7u AgxuZ3lItK5BZgCiq4vYWfydr1np+pJml32pLb1NU5Zrbe8mH6JbdlaJOluPg38zlU6/ IAaH8K+/nTLQrCukT4BBKU4w8VHt67GU7gjAQhimk6Z23A97sWhrlWTtw6hKmS1qgbrn IJ7g== Received: by 10.60.32.175 with SMTP id k15mr3280327oei.67.1353350075862; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 10:34:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (client-69.170.103.221.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.221]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m6sm8294205oem.10.2012.11.19.10.34.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 19 Nov 2012 10:34:34 -0800 (PST) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 12:34:31 -0600 References: <1353165866.91789.YahooMailClassic@web181406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><5C2F91B6-2AD6-4897-8D9E-456389BF3246@gmail.com> <73D0744A-4EF5-489E-B016-A9B86940DDB8@gmail.com> <3CF41C9750C14B539BCDB7869D02F604@Vista> To: Joe Curry Cc: 'FOT of Triumph'' Subject: Re: [Fot] F1, was Re: Frequencies for the weekend?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe, I also had heard that. Same story when they talked about moving the city airport to Manor several decades ago. I tried to imagine how much excavation it would take to build the Roman road version of a runway out there on the Blackland Prairie. At the time I'd been flying an ultralight miniMAX out of Bird's Nest airport, about a mile from the proposed municipal airport site, where there was only about 300 feet of decent runway (out of 3200 feet), right in the middle. If you walked in black gumbo, maybe you also had to shovel it. Very hard when dry, but it would stick to your shovel when wet enough to dig. You used your boot to push it off the shovel, and then... Duncan On Nov 19, 2012, at 11:55 AM, Joe Curry wrote: > Duncan, > According to the Speed Channel's program covering the building of the > circuit, several tons of that soil were removed from the track area so that > it could be replaced by a more stable substance in order to keep the track > from sinking. I can still remember walking through that stuff as a younger > version of myself. The further you walk, the taller you become. > > Cheers, > Joe C. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 19 13:30:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D144390E for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 13:30:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.wave1.net (unknown [74.219.105.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA277438C8 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 13:30:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from [74.219.99.56] by mail.wave1.net (ArGoSoft Mail Server .NET v.1.0.8.3) with ESMTP (EHLO mtmPC) for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:41:20 -0500 From: "Mike Moore" To: Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:31:07 -0500 thread-index: Ac3GlM3QoxIrEETSSSCp933mow5YTw== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] Pyrometer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Looking to purchase one, any recommendations or ideas on type that will do the job without breaking the bank? Thanks Mike 62 TR4 Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 19 14:24:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B548F43902 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:24:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm2.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm2.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.108.233]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD35438CE for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:19:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from [212.82.108.230] by nm2.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2012 21:20:43 -0000 Received: from [217.12.12.248] by tm3.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2012 21:20:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp819.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2012 21:20:43 -0000 s=s1024; t=1353360043; bh=chcqY4EmbMxlowEx5MhoTUcnLmEuth4n5FG8D7ABU6E=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Subject:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=ajPw5XILpycffsfkkV6EFGTUS13s+gQam/xQAkaVGCKaw272YLBDBUNasAJXfE6nm/RiQT9i0ZqXH0UZJf5ggFCG9Zxh7oPeqXlFrNwxfBmSaox8VOxRvfUmtGLM2Z0MAjWlIQxS7uTvjRE36c5OpGYJcX/4ILB5tYyVgnDlhv0= Fba8AnpCcjlHkXjdKgo8NfZsx2B1FaY_2NdrjZl4s7fFx512x3jyHgAuYJW0 06tPMO0mxxtDpfs56rG8R2pCrDw8wi566sMyJ1OTrCHWe.4rbqPlVc0rmn8U n1N3Ta2ox3NF.jrHs8ppPR..qYl8xHgFyW.IVxHWBSfKyAg4YhfWGfaRLtAd cmanYfU_quPNaw7sZa67_VDFFUhrnKNss6U2bID9B6ZNdhHXFNhpCCbkfBBS opmmVeFB2d40CPobjXlUMzvdyzzpeDt96DUbD5U8QUHK_bfKvIOzu9vlx2Os 5r_DQw8zp1zPt73TFwneHgCiSeQqrlqBSuTSEOY7_.smXYruaKopCpVl20z6 zbbZa0J4enR7G6qgCMK15H3cRpqPJu6tbuWlFAOWmRvWtCKiEt2OoLpzattq 8o8PdJuTaYxs- Received: from [192.168.0.9] (keithfiles@188.222.241.3 with plain) by smtp819.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 2012 13:20:42 -0800 PST From: Keith Files Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 21:20:44 +0000 To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] US GP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Guys, What a circuit, looks truly magnificent and a real advertisement for F1in the USA; gave us the best race of the season in my opinion. Keith _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 19 14:49:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42548438EB for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:49:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (imr-mb02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 696722D04AB for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 12:38:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 28DBD3800006D; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 14:43:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mta002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mta002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.133]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C4381E000089; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 14:43:23 -0500 (EST) From: SpiwakD@aol.com Full-name: SpiwakD Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 14:43:23 -0500 (EST) To: trawlerjazz@hotmail.com, bbspaulding@msn.com, Tspiwak@aol.com, BurnitaInc@aol.com, davwal@earthlink.net, WLPKJP@aol.com, jgfetz@hotmail.com, drmike100@hotmail.com, surfinsinger7@epix.net, jeffcoup@verizon.net, hrosemd@gmail.com, gjefferies@bradenton.com, jimandi@ptd.net, pccochrane@verizon.net, tedboy@verizon.net, slammer8@verizon.net, HankTerraCeia@aol.com, Arthman@aol.com, frankskepton@yahoo.com, jazznpam@yahoo.com, josephremillard964@hotmail.com, MYBADDHOG@aol.com, graceskepton@yahoo.com, jasonbrown328i@yahoo.com, bspiwak@comcast.net, manager@davidspiwak.com, bobanddee@tampabay.rr.com, iembalmu@comcast.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1353095006; bh=x6x6INW9Ccu28xLj+PLq1RhwCPuafQjQ3wtwnwIZ9BU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PMIpGfqdiXBhyWZsp6jXW3eMkGzdItTJHOymh1+h1vdIia2sBwElPf/5sYdTuTsgS BpFwO+O1+PA7+wokEsaiXOm2M7fFhVo8yCgInmGm3c8WjLNRVdS9zMm/uWaR9RpqXA alZptY+4Slt4d3y05LJXgnyLFzOG85Z0PqaPpUiY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c750a6975b5d46 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Fwd: school bus racing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net ____________________________________ From: frankskepton@yahoo.com To: SpiwakD@aol.com Sent: 11/16/2012 1:00:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time Subj: school bus racing new to me but looks interesting... it must happen right after the demolition derby! _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh7fQz4xzW4_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh7fQz4xzW4) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 19 15:31:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4979E43923 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:31:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f169.google.com (mail-ob0-f169.google.com [209.85.214.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7643438CE for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:31:26 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ob0-f169.google.com with SMTP id lz20so6737115obb.14 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:32:26 -0800 (PST) h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=UD5uvrEgBH55ybL9C+FnG7LtCLNbtnuXTogenns9+og=; b=idAwVueOh0wQar1YfouqCM2zavA8EOq9L7bN79tmD0Wd+eifLdjpxhB9oZ1c6CG5N5 oQD1ND8d+RNeBjnfU08cR1G2raF/oZnmOlxRBCN1/SCEJYHfj1e6EBDPc/msdB3QWajc DVSge0SMPCrTU/FgbN9ofBVfGOzuMrGJ9fUSBci+x1OjovrmpebX0J7DH8Us6+LXys/Z OCHy9iM8K+6kARPI13lPRxOE8iux2dGMsb3aCD0qpu1fQa1GdDmP29A1AeKt65Ud5vEg +UMMCQ3EXe0iXW87OiUVNsgf2dL8NCL55C2QXC9psHfFbRsSv4PsWlxDezSHGGKr3L2H sojA== Received: by 10.60.24.7 with SMTP id q7mr11469551oef.108.1353364346034; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:32:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (client-69.170.103.221.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.221]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z1sm8746995oeh.7.2012.11.19.14.32.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:32:25 -0800 (PST) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:32:16 -0600 References: <008201cdc694$cea56e20$6bf04a60$@net> To: Mike Moore Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Pyrometer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mike, I assume you don't mean an infrared hand-held one for checking exhaust manifolds, tire temps etc., but instead an exhaust gas temperature gauge to mount on the dash. Try Wicks Aircraft or Aircraft Spruce and Specialty if you want a dual or quad EGT to check more than one location -- here's a Westach quad for $235 but you'll have to pay more for the senders: http://tinyurl.com/ccvxyj2. These are used in many homebuilt aircraft and are not too expensive. Another source is 42Draft designs.com (42 Draft Designs, 1554 Millersville Rd, Millersville, MD 21108 Phone: 410-923-0411) -- they have a Vision series VDO EGT gauge for $130. I bought something similar a few years ago because they had a style that was a close match to the other gauges in my Vixen 21td motorhome. Duncan (Texas) On Nov 19, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Mike Moore wrote: > Looking to purchase one, any recommendations or ideas on type that will do > the job without breaking the bank? > > > > Thanks > > Mike > > 62 TR4 > > > > Michael T. Moore, CPA > > 2007 West 32nd Street > > Erie, PA 16508 > > > > Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 > > Fax: 814-864-7383 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 19 15:48:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A39F4391D for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:48:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm30-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm30-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.126]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F96438CF for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:48:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.149] by nm30.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2012 22:49:41 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.125] by tm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2012 22:49:41 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1030.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2012 22:49:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 18786 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Nov 2012 22:49:41 -0000 s=s1024; t=1353365381; bh=90ho953HC86x63tvk9yxG6Qkqu9PX9d2Y3R6bDWSKLc=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yiT1HDzjAtOa/7zWk66YdC/x3NlCAZEuWfanuPedhZesqz7LBtOtqxMHaktAC9VUfHBRgkqs2ekzc5K1ZAe+g7y0toDIEecUNkwT7ftYnReF3O2dHxQFLNph0Ns1H0/mMU4ljHEjucvavY2qahHoRErL6mWtvQS6CjtYwmbxnsk= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=D0IYm2YoXnSBjutjkpy2G/d5O3R0c0nsNfm6plt57/VwXBISx6qFEl7tZfTiA9lzfwWwVWjheUdvB1sedvhkCY3RVcJntH5YsknP8Sy8L2MI/ZEGDoyF8A3KfswooPjg8Ltuodw82htXuX7rr9l2xKwGA1oE8+uk8Ykyyble7ho=; hwKxsGUGXhjuAWN4rcljlPRkcG1syqR8twZqA.IP.a0BBSxS6f3gnf_jqdBH 9m3mmLVT9PbMmFGWS8a.Lsw.jGWuhm0fBnifYLTgksh0r3QbN0.c66R8AsJH fs1.whcHX6ViGKXRHpfEAcZ3WsGd0u0SlIpIxiwEuqdUVbAs4urCjLSHZZzd Njd2ROJ2YGbI4F_SBYYi160WdFiFDcrD8qEMES1UFcNjrYlENl87HKxspwIZ k8sJh62SqBATaTHYmtBelzsKeGDJ7o_hNMSzfQCIp2MpBTfJd4d9yQ2W7hz0 X7h1qOLhP3Ts4qXGd3k6uvnnCxlGyzvZiGF9Z.p99ZvqFk3ABRec5k9.Wk8q V__B.aaN3UsId.lTBVROTUaQdBTM6jApF5604MDpjJyeLuKX6FDPyhFwpMkb meS8aip.iucZQDZP8zScSjz23OIJiEhU9oMN3 Received: from [76.221.83.131] by web182203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:49:41 PST Q2FyIGZvciBTYWxlLCBkZWxldGUgaWYgbm90IGludGVyZXN0ZWQuLi4uCgoxOTY1IFNwaXRmaXJlIGZ1bGwgcmFjZSBjYXIgZm9yIHNhbGUuIEl0J3MgYSBwcm9qZWN0LiBDb21wbGV0ZS4gMTUwMCBlbmdpbmUgaW4gCmNhciByaWdodCBub3cgKGNsb3NlIHRvIHJ1bm5pbmcpIGEgbmV3IHJlYnVpbGQgb24gYSAxMzAwIHNtYWxsIGpvdXJuYWwgMDMwIG92ZXIsIApiYWxhbmNlZC4uLiBidW5jaCBvZiBuZXcgc3R1ZmYgYW5kIGFsbCB0aGUgZXh0cmFzIEkgY2FuIHRocm93IGluLCwsIGJlZm9yZSBJIApsaXN0IGkBMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:49:41 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] Spitfire for Sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Car for Sale, delete if not interested.... 1965 Spitfire full race car for sale. It's a project. Complete. 1500 engine in car right now (close to running) a new rebuild on a 1300 small journal 030 over, balanced... bunch of new stuff and all the extras I can throw in,,, before I list it anywhere else, it's offered here... NEEDS COMPLETED, NOT Running at this moment... contact me off list if interested... $6000.00 Bobby Whitehead igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 19 16:53:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE0843A6F for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:53:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from email.consolidated.net (omr03.consolidated.net [72.22.9.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD95943A2B for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:24:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from client-72-251-169-90.consolidated.net (EHLO _192.168.0.105_) ([72.251.169.90]) by omr03.consolidated.net (MOS 4.3.3-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id INP12955 (AUTH triumphs@consolidated.net); Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:25:28 -0500 (EST) References: <008201cdc694$cea56e20$6bf04a60$@net> From: Home Consolidated Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:25:28 -0600 To: Mike Moore actions=TAG refid=str=0001.0A020201.50AABFE8.0155, ss=1, re=0.000, fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-07-25 19:15:43, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46, mode=single engine refid=str=0001.0A020201.50AABFE8.0155, ss=1, re=0.000, fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-07-25 19:15:43, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46 Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Pyrometer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Try http://www.egauges.com/eg_typeI.asp?Type=Pyrometer&Face=All&Bezel=All&Lightin g=All&Letter=All&Needle=All&Diameter=All&Manf=All Kg Sent from my iPad On Nov 19, 2012, at 2:31 PM, "Mike Moore" wrote: > Looking to purchase one, any recommendations or ideas on type that will do > the job without breaking the bank? > > > > Thanks > > Mike > > 62 TR4 > > > > Michael T. Moore, CPA > > 2007 West 32nd Street > > Erie, PA 16508 > > > > Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 > > Fax: 814-864-7383 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphs@consolidated.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 19 19:24:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3260F43A02 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:24:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BA8F43904 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:05:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.36]) by qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id RdvP1k0040mlR8UAEe61Xd; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 02:06:01 +0000 Received: from locutus ([75.70.96.161]) by omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Re5x1k00V3UuT0T8Xe61Np; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 02:06:01 +0000 From: "Jim Gray" To: "'Mike Moore'" , Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:55:53 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac3GlM3QoxIrEETSSSCp933mow5YTwALSgaw Subject: Re: [Fot] Pyrometer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I use one of the Longacres, here's a link to one for $ 100. Jim g. http://compare.ebay.com/like/290092036788?var=lv<yp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes &var=sbar -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Moore Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:31 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Pyrometer Looking to purchase one, any recommendations or ideas on type that will do the job without breaking the bank? Thanks Mike 62 TR4 Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 19 21:12:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66F3D439AA for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 21:12:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.63]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F977438CA for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:48:26 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=JwqtYV8qGWWG2jipGSHK5h1LMSGO+AF8PFzbZCipxDDjEysu47rvl0g3Gtzsinnn; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.45] (helo=elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Taeps-0005Ot-93 for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 22:49:20 -0500 Received: from 108.64.186.7 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 22:49:19 -0500 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:49:19 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: steve To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Photo History of my TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Friends, Here's a link to my new website which showcases, among other things, the history of my racing TR3. Please check out my new video, TR3 Switcharoo. I'm sure you'll find it entertaining! http://stevebelfer.squarespace.com/vintage-tr3-racing/ ~STEVE _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 20 04:39:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69CFA43922 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 04:39:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com (mail-bk0-f41.google.com [209.85.214.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB81438D8 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 04:33:17 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-bk0-f41.google.com with SMTP id jg9so2771572bkc.14 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 03:34:14 -0800 (PST) h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=Cgx1w8nwwdjfvwZnj+Zbt9YJYNf9mjM4PQJ0z7nYZHE=; b=XNYALBxvVbLPKxlS2NzwutSldGnBkH3tk2qMSn2NtPdrUkbfZsEfEddCo3565DjHR3 gPPw29QT6zaK+atCoxCYHF6pDJYHGcET+gcGTVDcf51kZufJyIXH9mPSsnPpcizF+z5E fTfvuh5oTs9ryIJS0+1W0JJvjONwOvWU5vHLQfagg50EP48jwoAvRCf/S+Bj2cnu78+a hWfOqZlQRifERTrJlWLIYDjn/18UOOztPx+lFeBzRcI3+yIXzPNprZaegjXYeYfI73Sm Jdoez0bPri0Xxp6V0rqUT0o/HgpoNLzyQBE0rgrh/cPPYQV+oFMeOgUu95hL9DcLM75g 0cGg== Received: by 10.204.151.9 with SMTP id a9mr5817060bkw.2.1353411253784; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 03:34:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home (ip-109-41-39-161.web.vodafone.de. [109.41.39.161]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i20sm2452501bkw.5.2012.11.20.03.34.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 20 Nov 2012 03:34:13 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: "'steve'" , "'FOT'" References: <5183060.1353383360080.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 12:34:09 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac3G1Y2f44pgsszKSyewPznaSkKpiAAPVSsA Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Photo History of my TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amazing video....best ever saw!!!!! Thanks for sharing it! Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von steve Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. November 2012 04:49 An: FOT Betreff: [Fot] Photo History of my TR3 Friends, Here's a link to my new website which showcases, among other things, the history of my racing TR3. Please check out my new video, TR3 Switcharoo. I'm sure you'll find it entertaining! http://stevebelfer.squarespace.com/vintage-tr3-racing/ ~STEVE _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 20 04:40:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9550B4395D for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 04:40:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com (mail-bk0-f41.google.com [209.85.214.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CFA0438D8 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 04:37:59 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-bk0-f41.google.com with SMTP id jg9so2774463bkc.14 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 03:38:56 -0800 (PST) h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=I5EF7+WBT24eomrboBeUHyz05ILzy8UJAWxuNb2bDp8=; b=nlgeIOBoPOSe68PSkghdNZ8jRvBbIC6hkLCj5evWZQatIs8gOgtn23RDuLoElC916t ///UBhQ+PMZ3lv610Q7GI9L2yf2yCiPa87hjohT87bZYki0SkLvrnkcEjZ0i1N/MWq43 1YYmi5BHVJfrkSgbVTMjWKM+9uTT6+WwvUMwYUxbje8tjK5qYmY2oWNJOYnuD1EqfnQG fXw96tmH4sJSyyDK+69QFxV5ALSaMYTkhHNgMXb56E9Wj7Y1N+DRI8duEd3Yy5dEvcuO jvnPRsDSrG26WiPTI3TZwf2cz3g4oVXU8R6DMDGXiJV4FlYaVzsftKRsaBnlLswr6SIT 8Aig== Received: by 10.204.6.87 with SMTP id 23mr5950017bky.78.1353411536588; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 03:38:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home (ip-109-41-39-161.web.vodafone.de. [109.41.39.161]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d16sm6528201bkw.2.2012.11.20.03.38.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 20 Nov 2012 03:38:56 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: "'steve'" , "'FOT'" References: <5183060.1353383360080.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 12:38:54 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac3G1Y2f44pgsszKSyewPznaSkKpiAAPfy7g Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Photo History of my TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Are in TV business? Your videos (Willlow Springs) are so professional made. Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von steve Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. November 2012 04:49 An: FOT Betreff: [Fot] Photo History of my TR3 Friends, Here's a link to my new website which showcases, among other things, the history of my racing TR3. Please check out my new video, TR3 Switcharoo. I'm sure you'll find it entertaining! http://stevebelfer.squarespace.com/vintage-tr3-racing/ ~STEVE _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 20 08:28:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E53CC438C2 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 08:28:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.55.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 38EF2438C2 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 08:27:56 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 13122 invoked by uid 0); 20 Nov 2012 15:28:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO just64.justhost.com) (173.254.28.64) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2012 15:28:52 -0000 Received: from [173.22.113.197] (port=51245 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tapkq-00042a-N4; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 08:28:52 -0700 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 09:28:50 -0600 To: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" , Friends From: Tony Drews mail.com> References: {sentby:smtp auth 173.22.113.197 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] front toe setting for racing TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net 1/16" toe in is a good place to start. Tony Drews At 11:22 PM 11/17/2012, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley wrote: >What is the recommended front toe setting. I am running stiff [600 lb ] >front springs. >Thanks >-- >Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 20 08:34:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0577E438EC for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 08:34:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp007.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout007.mac.com [17.158.236.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082DD438C2 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 08:34:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.99.26] (c-76-99-29-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [76.99.29.73]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp007.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MDS000IZLYUCK40@nk11p04mm-asmtp007.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:35:19 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8185,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-11-20_01:2012-11-20,2012-11-20,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1211200121 From: Scott Janzen Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:35:19 -0500 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net looking for a starting point - 23x9x15 slicks on 7" wheels. Weather will be cool - 50 degrees. What should these run when they are warm? 25lb? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 20 11:01:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB0F543970 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 11:01:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f169.google.com (mail-ia0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896D84396B for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 11:00:00 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ia0-f169.google.com with SMTP id r4so5501041iaj.14 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:00:56 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=nNK62hXr1SBHC0TkR9b9bWLdTOL/p4Si5cXvn0ZbqV0=; b=iBfSYH5kIohSv3XWsQMQ3SJeZji2xi9BS+5CddRn5EGWXd3brgJ0dv84bX6W95rkdg Kck81wmnE+IzYg4DINR+Rt+kkk3/lWNLX4alwiUr0fbagMBbGHibRoxGmIo85ZMV3Znh wIe4cFyrIlzHJX+JgdiPJ7/2VZ7AxbzhtWIlX8q9F033fMbeACSfeJuvb3q8vM2xTnkc nCVzuQ4WUK87kD9l1zCmAqf/R99BKRV2xYJStYAxuD2gCkk0NZBOuJMoOtSwOZ/slepp ccPYRXyyqkFdxOu34sqUI0qD/+2KHJzx8F4sMdohy31rw3S/82aSs5eOfas7J2BRlebV YM0A== Received: by 10.50.46.134 with SMTP id v6mr11020645igm.55.1353434456286; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:00:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.91.195 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:00:56 -0800 (PST) References: <50aba1b5.a500450a.183b.ffffe360SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:00:56 -0800 From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" To: Tony Drews , Friends Subject: Re: [Fot] front toe setting for racing TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Tony. Is that each side is in a 1/16, or each a 32nd? Will use the "strings" method so I know what each side is doing. Also, car now pulls to te left. Steeing wheel is removable so can be set to any position to center. Should I hold the wheel straight as I come to a stop and then set each side from that point, or should I move the wheel so that the left side is at 1/16th in, then adjust the right, then reposition the wheel? On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > 1/16" toe in is a good place to start. > > Tony Drews > > At 11:22 PM 11/17/2012, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley wrote: > >> What is the recommended front toe setting. I am running stiff [600 lb ] >> front springs. >> Thanks >> -- >> Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley >> ______________________________**_________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >> options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com >> > > > -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 20 12:02:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9007943985 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 12:02:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.55.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C34043941 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 11:54:46 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 18752 invoked by uid 0); 20 Nov 2012 18:55:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO just64.justhost.com) (173.254.28.64) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2012 18:55:41 -0000 Received: from [173.22.113.197] (port=53435 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tasyy-00068n-VZ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 11:55:41 -0700 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 12:55:38 -0600 To: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" , Friends From: Tony Drews mail.com> References: <50aba1b5.a500450a.183b.ffffe360SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> {sentby:smtp auth 173.22.113.197 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] front toe setting for racing TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 20 12:08:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D821439BE for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 12:08:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy8-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy8-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.22.20]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F7FE43984 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 12:05:49 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 30763 invoked by uid 0); 20 Nov 2012 19:06:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO just64.justhost.com) (173.254.28.64) by oproxy8.bluehost.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2012 19:06:45 -0000 Received: from [173.22.113.197] (port=54092 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tat9g-000596-Py; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 12:06:44 -0700 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:06:42 -0600 To: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" , Friends From: Tony Drews References: <50aba1b5.a500450a.183b.ffffe360SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <20121120190215.DECBF4396E@autox.team.net> {sentby:smtp auth 173.22.113.197 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] front toe setting for racing TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net What I said was: 1/16" total, or 1/32" on each side. Up to 1/8" total Toe In would be acceptable. You should center the rack first if possible, but I just point it straight ahead as I come to a stop. Pulling to one side indicates something else not being the same from side to side. I've got to chase a bit of that myself as I am pulling to the left under braking after my front suspension swap. I'll try to do a much more detailed setting of camber and caster prior to re-doing the toe settings. Tony At 12:55 PM 11/20/2012, Tony Drews wrote: >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 20 13:55:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175C9439CB for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:55:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f169.google.com (mail-qc0-f169.google.com [209.85.216.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3994397B for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:55:31 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id t2so5382425qcq.14 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 12:56:27 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=avb6aeP3SuMSsqAflwyhDfdxn6fG1wRYS7f14EvIhAg=; b=Q7RaLzXVodTAUETR/Iz6KA4ug7qCot13reKLcRfhLkpY+YE0oqyvGyY5Za0DAzY4nC nwimJNO3PTpqRv2iaKI9V/WqQOprglbRLrfw6423oZpcwC6IK6IztTaQHugJRv6I0ayE Ksdp3/S4tDQwqEOlvKIxKky/fdn0SCO3dM+cnXDg8HsMQPrSy+DPqsx3dudCDMn/Gmiq hFhPvjRqyKepD7P/tBYrmZKYouNTfSPDIO2w8cR3Whr/Zgh6bDDKku6vU4tHG7gR96Ev cVyp2stYdz+UxXyP5JfDJH8Eg0Afy06MUEq7OdVOQmNo3OylWGyU5ocp5xridNy743hG 7eyg== Received: by 10.224.185.212 with SMTP id cp20mr16253160qab.2.1353444987354; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 12:56:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.50.69 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 12:56:27 -0800 (PST) References: <5183060.1353383360080.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 14:56:27 -0600 From: Jason Ostrowski To: steve Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Photo History of my TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Steve, Your photo history hits real close to home. Your family was on the Midwest scene about a decade before mine. Those photos you spotlight from Blackhawk and Road America etc. are visual images that play in my mind quite often. Those were great times for me growing up at those same tracks (about 10 years later). Very nice little history sequence there...Thanks. The neat details you provided will help me keep your family's Legendary Triumph history alive back "home" here within Midwestern Council and VSCDA. For the record, that car is still talked about here for its stout record of solid performance... requiring little more at track effort than simply being toweled down between sessions. I remember it mostly from it's orange era, I had a similar colored "corgi junior Morgan" that I used to pretend was your dad's TR3. At the track back then, most of my time was spent reenacting the races in the dirt with my toy cars. Thanks for pointing toward your website....and to officially state the obvious; that car... it's complete story... a real treasure! Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:49 PM, steve wrote: > Friends, > > Here's a link to my new website which showcases, among other things, the > history of my racing TR3. > Please check out my new video, TR3 Switcharoo. I'm sure you'll find it > entertaining! > > > http://stevebelfer.squarespace.com/vintage-tr3-racing/ > > ~STEVE > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 21 04:25:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDCFB439B4 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 04:25:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm12-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm12-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.140]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30297437D8 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 04:08:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.214.32] by nm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Nov 2012 11:09:13 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.221] by tm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Nov 2012 11:09:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1030.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Nov 2012 11:09:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 62373 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Nov 2012 11:09:10 -0000 s=s1024; t=1353496150; bh=fRQBnfpaIeQzUos0ZgB3dqb45cBbbyH9K+24O6FGvYA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=y0cq0uKuwizqnD/i1dhZIwibWC2J8trG5EMwv++2aEznFHTB6FhbnkvDtM3eQHpbNzbpATuuI2DYJXLoB4YWqxyMz8q6pcNP7YJUz/d+LYghcfPytLC0k2hoyhOrqemK6i/31/nH2fW9E2ivoD4Z4131EYTkcBzTL8j9/6jASYY= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wYHPZcPuFCulvkreloDe9NnmYApG9KFK97neyDO4oyEyWWJ9dKvnlUIKlvd2sYYOuj7uPpx1KhvJc4kYioEx+nNB7NAaLHxdy+3eA2cL+LSgYxLkwBjy9HNzY0nS7z4NAJ2YsOGtvhWNpqnlqGXeQxw8iCnovmDmVyf8GrBNKbQ=; O58oNjUidEYzBrxQVPcx4iGi7IDKCNxiwWH3i7wYTOJhQm4Sty_cssJrPshG 0QDXEoa3.5Ljhiys_yYwudNkmXiUIpZvBJvjbCkwzvNuzTg0vd2zQMAZi3vC cjYcI3cOMNe3dqyuGz_v0hSOQ4n_ydzg8yZVeHzYJuJGV06UAnthFUtEfPvu ecCdvmLNXb_qG89hQG0WKxLMbPKLTBpE5AUe94c3txFFeYWMM40jNGI7gvo. 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This is for (drum roll) an Austin Marina 24 Hours of LeMons car that some friends of mine are putting together (I donated the car to the project). Now that you are done laughing...anyone got anything? Proximity to NC is a plus, but shipping won't be TOO bad...I hope. Please respond directly to me to save list bandwidth...thanks. Jamie Palmer tr6driver@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 21 09:40:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE55439B9 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 09:40:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm31-vm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm31-vm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.12]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2010F4397D for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 09:39:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.148] by nm31.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Nov 2012 16:40:44 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.211] by tm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Nov 2012 16:40:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1020.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Nov 2012 16:40:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 72870 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Nov 2012 16:40:44 -0000 s=s1024; t=1353516044; bh=FnvcHhiGsXEK5OcYCryjyHIHDuPCJkVbN2xN37FuXCk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=stHau7c6K30oumTeS3QiNCg5Fqj4XycteBmu8bAtnzS6VFOkxRyf2wGhvtI+cbeVcdiLKluxbxun7tyXPRXHxDJuqqJ0UHioXB8r6qmKEiZAVlI5bm+Vd8XiZuRAnnENl+ea7tPfRvF6G843c0W7fnvvBRhCAsLxA7b3yS5ZHmo= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WTV9NaYttdGrtVZdQpsN4cZmOveQB1aC50/wUlNh4i/m1qN3oNiewUFi8dDxEkMWwywzq4VtBO0sik4UJeolU7+snopbHvQXYwb2RW/KSb3tRyApfEEhWru9gZrJnjut0QQBCgfWz6rsz4z+jV0bl/3vahMrVKw1T/cGJW2tAqo=; 9ujpv4oShu1Gi.DwIQfC3.NvUlv6lK3TRgp6K7jSU5xcs6Qa4T6wfcqd7iRK HIbI4o28zhEmMkKaU2x5fxRqrMQXEOf0b2dPvpuW3YpaLrfcgCVnOW1EgdwX .l1ah42AV821eEjiDD1KB1eMEB6jYvxOT.vcgAd0ln6sdThUPv3STjhAclwo GL7eqehaIXRrgsGiR6E4S2X7obomOwgxxlcq2SFPlc5jWeZqFvzdawiGqo1p Ugdsr5CcOE7jxZGkPI_UniLVUCbrXxQGl8FkIDCsRDRjHSi8h6aVhqGcvskw zX1CjrYroua.SelobFiP8Y_K3kNB2F4I8vW3urCdfbwSYO9ADmo7PlKf1COl WutesWmMec_YjLk0iXyyQnWJCx8AE4EnEHlD.0nlSizmZgGDaDw3_v_5EnTp 4TrRSy1oZFiawTS5hxlbl9o7Fgz1qvopTPJcybZKcAH5Rip0- Received: from [204.54.36.245] by web140803.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:40:44 PST VGhhbmtzIHRvIGEgZnJpZW5kbHkgRk9UJ2VyLCBsb29rcyBsaWtlIHRoZSBNR0IgcGFydHMgaGF2ZSBiZWVuIGxvY2F0ZWQgOi0pwqAgKFRoYW5rcywgRWQhKQrCoApMb3ZlIHlvdSBmb2xrcy4uLsKgIDotKQrCoApKYW1pZQEwAQEBAQ-- Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:40:44 -0800 (PST) From: Jamie Palmer To: Friends of Triumph , Triumph Club of the Carolinas Subject: [Fot] MGB Parts found... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks to a friendly FOT'er, looks like the MGB parts have been located :-) (Thanks, Ed!) Love you folks... :-) Jamie _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 21 11:11:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF63A4398B for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:11:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A29B94395B for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:11:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.89]) by qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SHB11k0051vN32cA7JCDD2; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:12:13 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SJCC1k00x2yr1eL8iJCCui; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:12:12 +0000 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:12:12 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] TR3/TR6 slave cylinder question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, I need to get a slave cylinder for my TR3 which now has the TR4A-TR6 trans, pressure plate and throwout brg. The master cylinder is a Wilwood 3/4" bore. I noticed that Moss lists a different part number for the TR4A and TR6. Can anyone share some info on this and the correct cylinder needed. Thanks, Dave _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 21 14:48:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF1743A21 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:48:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm18-vm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm18-vm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.217.222]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40AB4439D6 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:46:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.137.12.188] by nm18.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Nov 2012 21:47:34 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.91] by tm9.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Nov 2012 21:47:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1028.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Nov 2012 21:47:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 51705 invoked by uid 60001); 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Tue, 20 Nov 2012 04:58:30 -0700 (MST) a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:17 a=7KaaxAUCt-sA:10 a=IDu0EPzEoZ4A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=EFH_F1GLPKUA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=AAvYLDLOAAAA:8 a=5Up8faWwAAAA:8 a=NZZIpYRGAAAA:8 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=ts70MGCDAAAA:8 a=qrFA_WvyAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=Q2PoRzDwAAAA:8 a=Gz9G8DMeAAAA:20 a=CpF9VYpiAAAA:20 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=XXhjcAZueioRmqcf4mQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=s2loLT2QvaoA:10 a=v6MMM96S_sUA:10 a=bBH-zMUTicQA:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=hHwM2AcxYSoA:10 a=bdmcM0_chmsA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=yRr3jPfb3KEA:10 a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:117 Received: from [67.255.16.235] ([67.255.16.235:49368] helo=Russlaptop) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id C0/BF-04016-E907BA05; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 11:59:28 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , References: <49ec9.629fd3c8.3dd7f15b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 06:59:23 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac3GoAJXNLa5/M5nRDqcHE23C6ifGAAdmC6A Content-Language: en-us Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: school bus racing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yet another group to be formed in $VRA! -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of SpiwakD@aol.com Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 2:43 PM To: trawlerjazz@hotmail.com; bbspaulding@msn.com; Tspiwak@aol.com; BurnitaInc@aol.com; davwal@earthlink.net; WLPKJP@aol.com; jgfetz@hotmail.com; drmike100@hotmail.com; surfinsinger7@epix.net; jeffcoup@verizon.net; hrosemd@gmail.com; gjefferies@bradenton.com; jimandi@ptd.net; pccochrane@verizon.net; tedboy@verizon.net; slammer8@verizon.net; HankTerraCeia@aol.com; Arthman@aol.com; frankskepton@yahoo.com; jazznpam@yahoo.com; josephremillard964@hotmail.com; MYBADDHOG@aol.com; graceskepton@yahoo.com; jasonbrown328i@yahoo.com; bspiwak@comcast.net; manager@davidspiwak.com; bobanddee@tampabay.rr.com; iembalmu@comcast.net Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Fwd: school bus racing ____________________________________ From: frankskepton@yahoo.com To: SpiwakD@aol.com Sent: 11/16/2012 1:00:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time Subj: school bus racing new to me but looks interesting... it must happen right after the demolition derby! _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh7fQz4xzW4_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh7fQz4xzW4) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 21 16:09:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57CDF43B6A for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 16:09:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com (outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com [64.136.47.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BD44943825 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:48:32 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1353538157; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=A17Gs6fRZRyvgk02nrkGzU1mJ5t74cSn93G651HSzUciMQuiQNQKgHrv8e4nlxYHF lim6LK6ZvueocC0CiiMUVbiNcsOlupnq7SNnJT/TaZZDFVgHYz5Zq5gO+k4dR4XUzF 0r/4wtr1xx2a0gkMC7+LGmXrDPzXMxcmZbyaCYms= Received: from outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com (webmail09.dca.untd.com [10.171.12.149]) by smtpout03.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABJL4YTWAGQHH3A for (sender ); Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:48:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [76.23.185.62] by webmail09.dca.untd.com with HTTP: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:47:10 GMT From: "Joe Boruch" Full-Name: "Joe Boruch" Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:47:10 GMT To: sjanzen@me.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have trying for about 28 psi hot with my TR3. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Scott Janzen To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:35:19 -0500 looking for a starting point - 23x9x15 slicks on 7" wheels. Weather will be cool - 50 degrees. What should these run when they are warm? 25lb? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 21 16:10:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7AC43C21 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 16:10:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7EC43A3A for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:51:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E234538000081; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:52:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dlb003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dlb003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.180.201]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id B761CE000085; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:52:20 -0500 (EST) From: Catpusher@aol.com Full-name: Catpusher Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:52:20 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1353538340; bh=ei6Viv0xAwbv/zl7YyPV0D0UOmJBxZXPl+Nppj9zTA8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=guTsSBsUSj4aisDb12Tw/XJuGGRM6vCEBZELcR/Xvh+8syzPfATYpZy9l/kS4wvFL +QTwYz5R6EMiY6CD3qQ1EhEVrgIfWZWiabvZ1QS52NmjGgpuQD538zQQvRGPXqAIgF L/r1Hd70nHCbUjKrInGBD33wZYIddme5AYdpYfrU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb50ad5b241742 Subject: [Fot] Subject: Re: front toe setting for racing TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This reminds me of my time before correcting the bump and rebound changes in my TR's system; part of the process is to exactly center the rack First. The TR had 1.2" toe in on full bump, 1.7" toe Out on rebound; trying to set to 1\32" was some what futile. Yes, we are talking inches here! TR Regards, Hardy Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:06:42 -0600 From: Tony Drews To: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" , Friends Subject: Re: [Fot] front toe setting for racing TR6 What I said was: 1/16" total, or 1/32" on each side. Up to 1/8" total Toe In would be acceptable. You should center the rack first if possible, but I just point it straight ahead as I come to a stop. Pulling to one side indicates something else not being the same from side to side. I've got to chase a bit of that myself as I am pulling to the left under braking after my front suspension swap. I'll try to do a much more detailed setting of camber and caster prior to re-doing the toe settings. Tony _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 21 16:54:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D07443B62 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 16:54:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail201c2.megamailservers.com (mail201c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21E943A10 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 16:29:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.255.77.216] (93.sub-174-252-177.myvzw.com [174.252.177.93]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail201c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id qALNTn3s010380 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:29:52 -0500 References: <20121121.174710.29950.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com> From: John Hasty Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:29:48 -0500 To: Joe Boruch a=XaqiK2hx5TIA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ZAwVzmWRkSTAhE6mTfIYwQ==:17 a=fmDjJsrZAAAA:8 a=HHGDD-5mAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=Nl73uV8AcNTjzzBchfQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=YK30HMD7P3IA:10 a=i1zE5R4R5dEA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=ZAwVzmWRkSTAhE6mTfIYwQ==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Where is it legal to run slicks? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 21, 2012, at 10:47 PM, "Joe Boruch" wrote: > I have trying for about 28 psi hot with my TR3. Joe(B) > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Scott Janzen > To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph > Subject: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:35:19 -0500 > > looking for a starting point - 23x9x15 slicks on 7" wheels. > Weather will be cool - 50 degrees. What should these run when they are warm? > 25lb? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 21 22:32:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BECE943AAB for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:32:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm14.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm14.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1245438F5 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:13:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.151] by nm14.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Nov 2012 05:13:42 -0000 Received: from [98.136.86.53] by tm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Nov 2012 05:13:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp114-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Nov 2012 05:13:42 -0000 s=s1024; t=1353561222; bh=6NDQJANhFcptNmAy77Z/TpDNukRgZt5g695JsAz4th8=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=4koFrccH0B1+pBcKePivUF/K0NWLOLbG38Q0H1xRRkO0GcB6B6iR/oOUV/rvzFZwVpREWipK06qE2ZHQPa9gFkgKWqd60X8T2YzyMg9cVjFYu8J5GfguADQOPSmM5N2oPXNFTPGOZej5jRzS93eVD15VtNrlNXJjwSAW5n5ph18= DtNYpFwQ4JZJ63b9mnV2.V19mXO2Glay8X2LhOME__rFGiHgCoHY5QMNUbxY 0Wu9NwJOn2myxqRscOnbqnbtwaXa6gSFL8CQlMgjMkHT_ZeJBSi40fW9VCdG mYvSGBS3Vq3Zaw7YUGdemVHqo.4xJsVY70vQp4l7y2QyAlxt84QhPD7uPH6d yhbHFe3TENXQNQRGAr_7MGbecOIkC0VE6OTx06TxfH11CqgHEjYb7.H1cUIh nvkZnFQLSXIhGUZk_E2Y3YOj9UABj6XzHOn.G0DyCq9imq10BxFVrtP5vHkx .fm98dlSl6eYKhuYaERBDSSG9biyfbtFcsL3BjJWDJY3gusp2Ja4yEymA.XG j.Laa09Q2pnKA6IYkWNNTsIJ2Baic79ofEXQHRAeh5NlPxTpny1H6P.1N7ao GvQCXxBHtaFdgp_xTjybge1qMnXe6dslHbPnIA.9erub.1p6YHDi9UwBPiED 6Sk4UobVI9sIT Received: from [10.174.143.230] (fasttrs@166.205.67.23 with xymcookie) by smtp114-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2012 21:13:41 -0800 PST References: <20121121.174710.29950.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com> <32EF0648-9A26-42D9-85B3-2ED0E7D14C0C@gdhs.com> From: Mike Munson Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 00:13:41 -0500 To: John Hasty Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I run 19 on my 2200 lbs TR6. Mike Sent from my iPhone On Nov 21, 2012, at 6:29 PM, John Hasty wrote: > Where is it legal to run slicks? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 21, 2012, at 10:47 PM, "Joe Boruch" wrote: > >> I have trying for about 28 psi hot with my TR3. Joe(B) >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------- >> From: Scott Janzen >> To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph >> Subject: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? >> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:35:19 -0500 >> >> looking for a starting point - 23x9x15 slicks on 7" wheels. >> Weather will be cool - 50 degrees. What should these run when they are > warm? >> 25lb? >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 22 03:56:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 606E9439A7 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 03:56:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail17.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail17.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C5043971 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 03:49:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from geoffPC (c220-239-97-219.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.97.219]) (authenticated sender gkbyrne) by mail17.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id qAMAnmTL029212; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 21:49:49 +1100 From: "geoff byrne" To: "'Tony Drews'" , "'Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley'" , "'Friends'" References: <20121120152818.3F7DD438F6@autox.team.net> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 21:49:51 +1100 thread-index: AQHWsA1dHYUg/X6vlR/I7Cr/6YDgJAGrLtMhl9aERYA= Content-Language: en-au a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=lojdg71KAAAA:8 a=47zrwgNPs_0A:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=HdmVnQkHQqd_AM27cIcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 a=n/CIiUKuP8r6VOFQHWj+kw==:117 Subject: Re: [Fot] front toe setting for racing TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I run 2mm toe out to give better turn in Geoff Byrne TR6 Racer down under -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tony Drews Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2012 2:29 AM To: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley; Friends Subject: Re: [Fot] front toe setting for racing TR6 1/16" toe in is a good place to start. Tony Drews At 11:22 PM 11/17/2012, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley wrote: >What is the recommended front toe setting. I am running stiff [600 lb >] front springs. >Thanks >-- >Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gkbyrne@optushome.com.au _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 22 05:58:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A0E439A7 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 05:58:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896974389E for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 05:48:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.1]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qAMCnWI4015456 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 07:49:32 -0500 Received: from [10.39.208.175] (mobile-198-228-198-066.mycingular.net [198.228.198.66]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 2E6CFE0000C2 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 07:49:24 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Bock Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 07:49:29 -0500 To: FoTTriumph x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1353588572; bh=+fr86DYPIaWvA38c6zScrAoHsp9hXMqFeXg4KilG084=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=Z/9W8XnbDrEU/oZGlL8DMiAbvPyH5f4ChQfrWFk+xe2e8bE8wGDVxsf0e96/M67i0 swEmPc07c1efV0y4tKjRAUBoaf9PyWGCM9+hgNJRemip4HkK1Veg8nnwlBBr6xRVFq Ob3s5LhZQg7ercp4XEeoXXDL3X4jKW3oFdOEKuN0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290150ae1f522977 Subject: [Fot] Turkey bowl Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici I will be at the bowl Saturday with some badges and flags if anyone wants one or a few. I hope to see flags and badges on the cars. Half of all sales gets donated to the FOT fund. See you there _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 22 06:28:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4456A43A13 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 06:28:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6AA4389E for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 06:26:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b%11]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 07:23:30 -0600 From: "Barr, Scott" To: John Hasty , Joe Boruch Thread-Topic: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? Thread-Index: Ac3ItI/8NwxR5X2MoUyO/nVrHhsWow== Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 13:23:29 +0000 References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US Content-ID: <96836772E505B84BB4319E718E65561D@mccarty-law.com> Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It's legal in Midwestern Council's F-Production, competing against the Miatas. Recommended, even. Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 www.mccarty-law.com -----Original message----- From: John Hasty To: Joe Boruch Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Sent: Thu, Nov 22, 2012 00:01:02 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? Where is it legal to run slicks? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 21, 2012, at 10:47 PM, "Joe Boruch" wrote: > I have trying for about 28 psi hot with my TR3. Joe(B) > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Scott Janzen > To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph > Subject: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:35:19 -0500 > > looking for a starting point - 23x9x15 slicks on 7" wheels. > Weather will be cool - 50 degrees. What should these run when they are warm? > 25lb? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 22 06:59:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D2A743971 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 06:59:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s7.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s7.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A2C4389E for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 06:55:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU168-W87 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s7.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 22 Nov 2012 05:56:35 -0800 From: marty sukey CC: FOT Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 08:56:35 -0500 References: , <2b478a37-2fa8-4498-86ca-185b4854b206@blur> FILETIME=[2F9BB150:01CDC8B9] Subject: [Fot] Was Slicks now Miatas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Kind of hijacking the thread here, I went to a NASA event at Mid-Ohio this year (watching) and there was a class for miatas. It was the NASA Runoffs. Those guys were nuts. I watched them from the garages on the front straight, going at full tilt leading to the braking area of turn one, just flat out running into the back bumper of the car in front of them. Not just little love taps and not just once or twice. Entertaining to watch but not sure I would want to be out there with them. Marty ---------------------------------------- > From: sbarr@McCarty-Law.com > To: jhhasty@gdhs.com; jaboruch@netzero.net > Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 13:23:29 +0000 > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? > > It's legal in Midwestern Council's F-Production, competing against the Miatas. Recommended, even. > > Scott Barr > McCarty Law LLP > (920) 257-2233 > www.mccarty-law.com > > > -----Original message----- > From: John Hasty > To: Joe Boruch > Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" > Sent: Thu, Nov 22, 2012 00:01:02 GMT+00:00 > Subject: Re: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? > > Where is it legal to run slicks? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 21, 2012, at 10:47 PM, "Joe Boruch" wrote: > > > I have trying for about 28 psi hot with my TR3. Joe(B) > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > > From: Scott Janzen > > To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph > > Subject: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? > > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:35:19 -0500 > > > > looking for a starting point - 23x9x15 slicks on 7" wheels. > > Weather will be cool - 50 degrees. What should these run when they are > warm? > > 25lb? > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 22 07:14:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6759243971 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 07:14:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm37-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm37-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.128]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1433C4386C for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 07:08:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.55] by nm37.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Nov 2012 14:09:22 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.4] by tm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Nov 2012 14:09:22 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Nov 2012 14:09:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 46533 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Nov 2012 14:09:22 -0000 s=s1024; t=1353593362; bh=kSdMYWkDSuNpK9U0MYX6nC41gWKokNCY4kQ7H0cbfnk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rIosiXQvrNvn3J2UmUZthYmR6IDck48GthmNEojPIPlyx5VGROcJaZ0gs0CXfLf6sCtKe26swT2hUko2byvIiQpHmxMKglH0Gb6vStJKipJ4BPfLNluiUefuGC22Dkkl+bJPdPSSrb8lEXSqgv86h3Q4pXgepwlgAMHO/KPwGv4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pLkjFARALSNrXMkQ8TPRM5adogDKvciRGLB4ROetyiOrHrr3Y4ahCUCEgvcgDZWYg3vrrVJA+sArvf34RqJ+0l39C2jFSLPMGe/U+onpmPqjLjGxkQGFHc0YlwSSW6myQjKI5SG6HnuJNYOo0Hn8XwwOWAUvXfCCXPp49Uo9ch4=; C_mWWlXizKm6tXX9tA3CBzL7RdhxZKYkic49.O0Ggo0DkV1f4KxOuhSYwT2W C5ZtmSjk2vPtw89rdXihLUKy28Zhn6CB996qYZvWg1dDKyzcZoRdqL0wkGSn siUY3xJz3qUjJvVa30dCOh5.TNnP3jirCrP8j051rmfroxzyDDrDxC_8.ySM 19BDYITJTREGIHafx_umLPLumj.7_WA8Fm6j0SJ.djauyTaGZpD2GBXDSu3m vt_MRvGzHtcWBsV1dndH0nc_lNHFFVHvd5u5VPOLElE1UDjbfTNCQWkbRAa2 hAlva0m8O2tO27.WnLSpbPdMDUaUiplT98Yv9RMJtjP4kajBPvgrBliYRHCD 5o6qbrcbqHLvQkESzPRWhcxEhqVKqN9mAtfH2eVWzYybaLvX79TMpRyHhNX5 J_LoBoNW9Cgb5bUaHJ9degHEy4GU6ghth2RIGAwfbXVz.bPdPRGn9LXNNVcP rhAZVAL2dd99KcfXEHkcbmqpGEmmTl91dm7sjQHtulS0ZSQ-- Received: from [99.157.50.20] by web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 06:09:22 PST RGVwZW5kcyBvbiBhIGxvdCBvZiB0aGluZ3MsIHdpZHRoIG9mIGZyb250IHRyYWNrLHdpZHRoIG9mIHRpcmUgd2hlZWwgY29tYm8sIG9mZnNldCBvZiB3aGVlbC4gV2l0aCBzbGlja3MgSSBydW4xLzE2dGggdG90YWwgdG9lLWluIHdpdGggdGhlIG5hcnJvd2VyIHRpcmUgd2hlZWwgY29tYm8gdGhhdCBJIHJhbiBhdCB0aGUgTWl0dHksIEkgZm91bmQgdGhhdCAwIHRvZSBoYW5kbGVkIGJldHRlci4gCgpNaWtlIAoKCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KIEZyb206IENodWNrIEFybm9sZCABMAEBAQE- References: <50aba1b5.a500450a.183b.ffffe360SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 06:09:22 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Munson To: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley , Tony Drews , Friends Subject: Re: [Fot] front toe setting for racing TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Depends on a lot of things, width of front track,width of tire wheel combo, offset of wheel. With slicks I run1/16th total toe-in with the narrower tire wheel combo that I ran at the Mitty, I found that 0 toe handled better. Mike ________________________________ From: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley To: Tony Drews ; Friends Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] front toe setting for racing TR6 Thanks Tony. Is that each side is in a 1/16, or each a 32nd? Will use the "strings" method so I know what each side is doing. Also, car now pulls to te left. Steeing wheel is removable so can be set to any position to center. Should I hold the wheel straight as I come to a stop and then set each side from that point, or should I move the wheel so that the left side is at 1/16th in, then adjust the right, then reposition the wheel? On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > 1/16" toe in is a good place to start. > > Tony Drews > > At 11:22 PM 11/17/2012, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley wrote: > >> What is the recommended front toe setting. I am running stiff [600 lb ] >> front springs. >> Thanks >> -- >> Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley >> ______________________________**_________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: >> Archive: >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >> options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com >> > > > -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 22 07:29:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F69143A16 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 07:29:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f41.google.com (mail-ee0-f41.google.com [74.125.83.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC1BB43873 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 07:20:07 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ee0-f41.google.com with SMTP id d41so5794072eek.14 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 06:20:54 -0800 (PST) h=from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=VuJMz5oAcoytdFZVx7d7OgEhGxk7QyEUn4uTz+TWDIg=; b=WxUCzvKhyHEEHDXz9LuZxkm/iQ7Zm+V7MNLy7RNCtVwZf687Nh4xub2ma0ynBfW600 +lt7j6QwuYu54xocl/Hh4slXAPHoepfyBZEeGuZsbiF3g6v781sEId8Wzf08fIKlq0v/ i5klg8zFdGURA/jpAv3dQ9LVbNNccJ+gIwpl+gH/qnn+ryKF5rBs2fsAWNfuzXYdhh/p EuXjtL6T79TBjpU+ryHnU+DUlkqtd9tFUggD6bZzlDs6pq39SqUy5bKQcn42UmjzHXsL E1q+HiZycJuV/MEmgi8UfJtxbslRiVA4l8A8kCGPwtFAx/tfSEhwwYojWUOZgkxWAEWE BuGQ== Received: by 10.14.223.135 with SMTP id v7mr1809085eep.41.1353594054409; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 06:20:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home ([46.78.206.166]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b44sm7212404eep.12.2012.11.22.06.20.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 22 Nov 2012 06:20:53 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: "'marty sukey'" References: , <2b478a37-2fa8-4498-86ca-185b4854b206@blur> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 15:20:50 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac3Iuc2/a6oOTz8VTOqqKZ7nXaw/RQAApYnQ Content-Language: de Cc: 'FOT' Subject: Re: [Fot] Was Slicks now Miatas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I didn't know that the NASA maintains car racing. "Huston, this is 'finish line', we've got a problem" :-) -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von marty sukey Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. November 2012 14:57 Cc: FOT Betreff: [Fot] Was Slicks now Miatas Kind of hijacking the thread here, I went to a NASA event at Mid-Ohio this year (watching) and there was a class for miatas. It was the NASA Runoffs. Those guys were nuts. I watched them from the garages on the front straight, going at full tilt leading to the braking area of turn one, just flat out running into the back bumper of the car in front of them. Not just little love taps and not just once or twice. Entertaining to watch but not sure I would want to be out there with them. Marty ---------------------------------------- > From: sbarr@McCarty-Law.com > To: jhhasty@gdhs.com; jaboruch@netzero.net > Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 13:23:29 +0000 > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? > > It's legal in Midwestern Council's F-Production, competing against the Miatas. Recommended, even. > > Scott Barr > McCarty Law LLP > (920) 257-2233 > www.mccarty-law.com > > > -----Original message----- > From: John Hasty > To: Joe Boruch > Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" > Sent: Thu, Nov 22, 2012 00:01:02 GMT+00:00 > Subject: Re: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? > > Where is it legal to run slicks? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 21, 2012, at 10:47 PM, "Joe Boruch" wrote: > > > I have trying for about 28 psi hot with my TR3. Joe(B) > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > > From: Scott Janzen > > To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph > > Subject: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? > > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:35:19 -0500 > > > > looking for a starting point - 23x9x15 slicks on 7" wheels. > > Weather will be cool - 50 degrees. What should these run when they > > are > warm? > > 25lb? > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 22 08:46:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187A0439EA for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 08:46:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC494399E for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 08:37:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.35]) by qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SfdT1k0050lTkoCAAfduCq; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 15:37:54 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Sfdu1k00D2yr1eL8Qfduvl; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 15:37:54 +0000 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 15:37:54 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] slave cylinder replies, Thanks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks to everyone for the replies to my slave cylinder question. I now know what I need to know and then some. 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Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: marty sukey Cc: FOT Sent: Thu, November 22, 2012 8:00:51 AM Subject: [Fot] Was Slicks now Miatas Kind of hijacking the thread here, I went to a NASA event at Mid-Ohio this year (watching) and there was a class for miatas. It was the NASA Runoffs. Those guys were nuts. I watched them from the garages on the front straight, going at full tilt leading to the braking area of turn one, just flat out running into the back bumper of the car in front of them. Not just little love taps and not just once or twice. Entertaining to watch but not sure I would want to be out there with them. Marty ---------------------------------------- > From: sbarr@McCarty-Law.com > To: jhhasty@gdhs.com; jaboruch@netzero.net > Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 13:23:29 +0000 > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? > > It's legal in Midwestern Council's F-Production, competing against the Miatas. Recommended, even. > > Scott Barr > McCarty Law LLP > (920) 257-2233 > www.mccarty-law.com > > > -----Original message----- > From: John Hasty > To: Joe Boruch > Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" > Sent: Thu, Nov 22, 2012 00:01:02 GMT+00:00 > Subject: Re: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? > > Where is it legal to run slicks? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 21, 2012, at 10:47 PM, "Joe Boruch" wrote: > > > I have trying for about 28 psi hot with my TR3. Joe(B) > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > > From: Scott Janzen > > To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph > > Subject: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? > > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:35:19 -0500 > > > > looking for a starting point - 23x9x15 slicks on 7" wheels. > > Weather will be cool - 50 degrees. What should these run when they are > warm? > > 25lb? > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 22 09:16:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D90439ED for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 09:16:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD744399E for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 09:10:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.8]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4B69A38000148; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:11:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.17]) by mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1EAE4E00008A; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:11:32 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d015.sysops.aol.com (205.188.181.32) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:11:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:11:32 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1353600692; bh=/Lbh4rBG/gXS/71oqLhQpcL64RAWLJY008YJL5lkhYw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rh1Pi3XPP8RSfTI0EnxMsvsoXgMiFz3WgoTzEjNWtweDrxfUApe0Gb3QHFNHOWmZ7 PN1Od8HWp0EC72IQT8bZSNu3a29TmzRe1WQG9x0t812MuOHSo+ouje7g8dhqDPk72+ Skzv4u5Mde6QzwZpM23M02QVjG6CmHU2NujZdZfg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290850ae4eb454f0 Subject: [Fot] CALIFORNIA AIR if you missed the original offer and more. 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E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 22 09:17:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0BA439F4 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 09:17:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38EC4389E for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 09:15:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qAMGGUK5006363; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:16:30 -0500 Received: from core-msd005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.17]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 23A8CE00008A; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:16:30 -0500 (EST) References: , <2b478a37-2fa8-4498-86ca-185b4854b206@blur> <1353599976.56587.YahooMailRC@web182203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> To: igofaster@att.net, trmarty@hotmail.com Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d015.sysops.aol.com (205.188.181.32) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:16:29 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:16:30 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1353600990; bh=7brEmBvjOEmwAuQxv3ekJfbtt/O+/7ZAtqAafFyccsg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=U60gKK7qn88IB6VEuZSOLADinJAnQlNz4uFzIxKNzn/6vVM4G9gLtSkzNEycymyaa 39wCi+n4Hq9c5dKt/ljwVlLHa2KRNZ++6zNws9NDsorHWzEfWR62ylOUF4dRXyFUxX GzQm1MAc2sgQP+5M+bs7bCvRW6eWyCuLXFbOeAGk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b50ae4fde35ca Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Was Slicks now Miatas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net At ROAD AMERICA the two MIATA PLAYBOY CUP leaders wrecked just yards in front of the Checkered Flag. Both were spinning when they crossed the line. -----Original Message----- From: Bobby Whitehead To: marty sukey Cc: FoT Triumph Sent: Thu, Nov 22, 2012 10:04 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Was Slicks now Miatas I too saw the Playboy Cup at Road Atlanta with the Miatas running at speed in competition... it was like mini-Nascar.... bumping and rubbing all over the place...sounded like a hornets nest all stirred up.... Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: marty sukey Cc: FOT Sent: Thu, November 22, 2012 8:00:51 AM Subject: [Fot] Was Slicks now Miatas Kind of hijacking the thread here, I went to a NASA event at Mid-Ohio this year (watching) and there was a class for miatas. It was the NASA Runoffs. Those guys were nuts. I watched them from the garages on the front straight, going at full tilt leading to the braking area of turn one, just flat out running into the back bumper of the car in front of them. Not just little love taps and not just once or twice. Entertaining to watch but not sure I would want to be out there with them. Marty ---------------------------------------- > From: sbarr@McCarty-Law.com > To: jhhasty@gdhs.com; jaboruch@netzero.net > Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 13:23:29 +0000 > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? > > It's legal in Midwestern Council's F-Production, competing against the Miatas. Recommended, even. > > Scott Barr > McCarty Law LLP > (920) 257-2233 > www.mccarty-law.com > > > -----Original message----- > From: John Hasty > To: Joe Boruch > Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" > Sent: Thu, Nov 22, 2012 00:01:02 GMT+00:00 > Subject: Re: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? > > Where is it legal to run slicks? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 21, 2012, at 10:47 PM, "Joe Boruch" wrote: > > > I have trying for about 28 psi hot with my TR3. Joe(B) > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > > From: Scott Janzen > > To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph > > Subject: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? > > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:35:19 -0500 > > > > looking for a starting point - 23x9x15 slicks on 7" wheels. > > Weather will be cool - 50 degrees. What should these run when they are > warm? > > 25lb? > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 22 09:17:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1139B439EF for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 09:17:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.56]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75664439B0 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 09:17:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SgBt1k0050QkzPwA6gJ9KQ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 16:18:09 +0000 Received: from [10.122.93.97] ([166.137.183.90]) by omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SgHZ1k00K1xSBc68NgHkau; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 16:18:04 +0000 References: <18a17.14b2ae61.3ddeb524@aol.com> From: James Gray Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 09:17:31 -0700 To: "Catpusher@aol.com" Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Subject: Re: front toe setting for racing TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I found that by eliminating the front spring spacers combined with lowered comp springs the steering rack centers itself. Jim g Sent from my iPhone On Nov 21, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Catpusher@aol.com wrote: > This reminds me of my time before correcting the bump and rebound changes > in my TR's system; part of the process is to exactly center the rack First. > The TR had 1.2" toe in on full bump, 1.7" toe Out on rebound; trying to > set to 1\32" was some what futile. Yes, we are talking inches here! > > TR Regards, > > Hardy > > > > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:06:42 -0600 > From: Tony Drews > To: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" , Friends > > Subject: Re: [Fot] front toe setting for racing TR6 > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > What I said was: > 1/16" total, or 1/32" on each side. Up to 1/8" total Toe In would be > acceptable. > > You should center the rack first if possible, but I just point it > straight ahead as I come to a stop. > > Pulling to one side indicates something else not being the same from > side to side. I've got to chase a bit of that myself as I am pulling > to the left under braking after my front suspension swap. I'll try > to do a much more detailed setting of camber and caster prior to > re-doing the toe settings. > > Tony > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 22 10:55:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E202743C97 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 10:55:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BDF44399E; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 10:47:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b%11]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:44:32 -0600 From: "Barr, Scott" To: Sam , "triumphs@autox.team.net" , "6-pack@autox.team.net" <6-pack@autox.team.net>, "fot@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Fot] Transmission Lube Thread-Index: Ac3I2QcYEzS/gnPUzUG6HBnjK8W93Q== Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 17:44:31 +0000 References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US Content-ID: <81ED627C6095E04DAF6C8C5F0B718251@mccarty-law.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Transmission Lube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have been using MTL in my 4-speed GT6 trans in the Spitfire for a bunch of years. So far so good. For their J-type overdrive, John Esposito recommends straight 30-weight non-detergent oil (try your local ag store, such as Fleet Farm, etc.). Don't know if that would be different for the A-type. Scott B. Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 www.mccarty-law.com -----Original message----- From: Sam To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , "6-pack@autox.team.net" <6-pack@autox.team.net>, "fot@autox.team.net" Sent: Thu, Nov 22, 2012 16:51:35 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Fot] Transmission Lube I'm sure this has been discussed ad neauseum but I would like to know what the consensus is for Red Line lubricants. I am running an A-Type OD in a TR6 and regular tranny in a GT6. Which is suitable? MT90 or MTL? Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving! _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 22 12:14:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EEF943B67 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 12:14:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A0B437FE for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:51:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SisU1k00116AWCUA4isVPV; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 18:52:29 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SisU1k00o2yr1eL8SisUSn; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 18:52:29 +0000 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 18:52:28 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] slave cylinder replies Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FoT, I guess that I should share what I've learned about TR slave cylinders. It seams that either TR4A or TR6 slave cylinder will work. Attention needs to be paid to the push rod length, an adjustable rod is available and I've been informed that the TR6 slave has an internal return spring compared to the external spring on the earlier units. Later TR3s through TR4A use the same slave. Thanks again, Dave _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 22 13:04:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC8E43B7B for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 13:04:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s18.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s18.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.93]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDFAC43B3E for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 12:41:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU151-DS20 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s18.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:41:46 -0800 From: "K LYNCH" To: "FOT" Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 12:41:48 -0700 Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 12:41:48 -0700 FILETIME=[6867CA20:01CDC8E9] Subject: [Fot] Happy Day with friends & family ! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net To all of you from Subprime Vintage Racing, Happy Thanksgiving ! Kev Lynch #6 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 22 15:06:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B78043B6B for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 15:06:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s27.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s27.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4479643B1F for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:36:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT141-W41 ([65.55.90.72]) by snt0-omc2-s27.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 22 Nov 2012 13:36:47 -0800 From: Tony and Annie Garmey To: , Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 13:36:46 -0800 References: <20121121.174710.29950.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com>, <32EF0648-9A26-42D9-85B3-2ED0E7D14C0C@gdhs.com>, <49D64C3F-D486-487B-8EF7-A965AA1271E5@yahoo.com> FILETIME=[79477330:01CDC8F9] Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Do you NOT set pressures/camber using tire temps ? The infra red heat guns are worthless to check tires temps. as they only check surface temps. Use a probe type pyrometer . check the tire in 3 places across the tread (inner-centre-outer) Hot in the centre will tell you too much pressure etcetc. Every track/driver is different. Hope this piece of info will help someone :) Tony Garmey > From: fasttrs@yahoo.com > Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 00:13:41 -0500 > To: jhhasty@gdhs.com > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? > > I run 19 on my 2200 lbs TR6. > > Mike > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 21, 2012, at 6:29 PM, John Hasty wrote: > > > Where is it legal to run slicks? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Nov 21, 2012, at 10:47 PM, "Joe Boruch" wrote: > > > >> I have trying for about 28 psi hot with my TR3. Joe(B) > >> > >> ---------- Original Message ---------- > >> From: Scott Janzen > >> To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph > >> Subject: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? > >> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:35:19 -0500 > >> > >> looking for a starting point - 23x9x15 slicks on 7" wheels. > >> Weather will be cool - 50 degrees. What should these run when they are > > warm? > >> 25lb? > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs@yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 22 17:28:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A3543B37 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 17:28:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc2-s5.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s5.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A0240EBD for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 17:05:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from BAY403-EAS189 ([65.54.190.124]) by bay0-omc2-s5.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 22 Nov 2012 16:06:02 -0800 From: Rich Rock Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 19:06:02 -0500 To: "fot@autox.team.net" FILETIME=[52F4C330:01CDC90E] Subject: Re: [Fot] Turkey bowl Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Scott Janzen will be there with his TR4 and I'll be there with my TR6-powered TVR. Rich Rock ________________________________ From: Christopher Bock Sent: 11/22/2012 7:59 AM To: FoTTriumph Subject: [Fot] Turkey bowl Amici I will be at the bowl Saturday with some badges and flags if anyone wants one or a few. I hope to see flags and badges on the cars. Half of all sales gets donated to the FOT fund. 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It took a while to get used to. Left tire marks on more than on Miata and pleanty of dents and marks the the CR. My race start theory in Portland is to not lose and spots at the start and avoid the wreck in the Chicane which usually took 8 cars out at the start. You were ahead 8 spots pretty quickly that way. It was strange to start vintage racing where most of the drivers are pretty respectful. I would say that running the TR4 in SOVREN feels more like a giant team with everyone helping each other. Mike Mehl ________________________________ From: Bobby Whitehead To: marty sukey Cc: FoT Triumph Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 7:59 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Was Slicks now Miatas I too saw the Playboy Cup at Road Atlanta with the Miatas running at speed in competition... it was like mini-Nascar.... bumping and rubbing all over the place...sounded like a hornets nest all stirred up.... Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: marty sukey Cc: FOT Sent: Thu, November 22, 2012 8:00:51 AM Subject: [Fot] Was Slicks now Miatas Kind of hijacking the thread here, I went to a NASA event at Mid-Ohio this year (watching) and there was a class for miatas. It was the NASA Runoffs. Those guys were nuts. I watched them from the garages on the front straight, going at full tilt leading to the braking area of turn one, just flat out running into the back bumper of the car in front of them. Not just little love taps and not just once or twice. Entertaining to watch but not sure I would want to be out there with them. Marty ---------------------------------------- > From: sbarr@McCarty-Law.com > To: jhhasty@gdhs.com; jaboruch@netzero.net > Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 13:23:29 +0000 > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? > > It's legal in Midwestern Council's F-Production, competing against the Miatas. Recommended, even. > > Scott Barr > McCarty Law LLP > (920) 257-2233 > www.mccarty-law.com > > > -----Original message----- > From: John Hasty > To: Joe Boruch > Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" > Sent: Thu, Nov 22, 2012 00:01:02 GMT+00:00 > Subject: Re: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? > > Where is it legal to run slicks? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 21, 2012, at 10:47 PM, "Joe Boruch" wrote: > > > I have trying for about 28 psi hot with my TR3. Joe(B) > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > > From: Scott Janzen > > To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph > > Subject: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? > > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:35:19 -0500 > > > > looking for a starting point - 23x9x15 slicks on 7" wheels. > > Weather will be cool - 50 degrees. What should these run when they are > warm? > > 25lb? > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mike.mehl@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 22 18:00:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E8543B19 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 18:00:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s25.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s25.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.100]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D934E435BA for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 17:35:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT120-W19 ([65.55.90.72]) by snt0-omc2-s25.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 22 Nov 2012 16:35:57 -0800 From: Kas Kastner To: Tony Garmey , , John Hasty Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 00:35:57 +0000 References: <20121121.174710.29950.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com>, , <32EF0648-9A26-42D9-85B3-2ED0E7D14C0C@gdhs.com>, , <49D64C3F-D486-487B-8EF7-A965AA1271E5@yahoo.com>, FILETIME=[812F56D0:01CDC912] Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net To add to Tony's words, do not be bound by the tire companies words. The tire is a spring and it depends on YOUR car and springing and suspension how it works. EXPIRMENT. Never be beaten by equipment > From: horizonracing@msn.com > To: fasttrs@yahoo.com; jhhasty@gdhs.com > Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 13:36:46 -0800 > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? > > Do you NOT set pressures/camber using tire temps ? The infra red heat guns are > worthless to check tires temps. as they only check surface temps. Use a probe > type pyrometer . check the tire in 3 places across the tread > (inner-centre-outer) Hot in the centre will tell you too much pressure etcetc. > Every track/driver is different. Hope this piece of info will help someone > :) Tony Garmey > > From: fasttrs@yahoo.com > > Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 00:13:41 -0500 > > To: jhhasty@gdhs.com > > CC: fot@autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? > > > > I run 19 on my 2200 lbs TR6. > > > > Mike > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Nov 21, 2012, at 6:29 PM, John Hasty wrote: > > > > > Where is it legal to run slicks? > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > On Nov 21, 2012, at 10:47 PM, "Joe Boruch" wrote: > > > > > >> I have trying for about 28 psi hot with my TR3. Joe(B) > > >> > > >> ---------- Original Message ---------- > > >> From: Scott Janzen > > >> To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph > > >> Subject: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? > > >> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:35:19 -0500 > > >> > > >> looking for a starting point - 23x9x15 slicks on 7" wheels. > > >> Weather will be cool - 50 degrees. What should these run when they are > > > warm? > > >> 25lb? > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> fot@autox.team.net > > >> > > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > > >> > > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > >> Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> fot@autox.team.net > > >> > > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > > >> > > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs@yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 22 19:33:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB1B543B31 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 19:33:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC70D43A3C for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 19:03:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Spjt1k0020cQ2SLA2q3lbn; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 02:03:45 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.26] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Sq3j1k00K4L5TyG8Wq3kZl; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 02:03:45 +0000 From: Bud Rolofson To: Sam Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 19:03:43 -0700 References: <18A4FAF7-DB37-4453-B59A-DE966EFDE1BD@aol.com> Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , "6-pack@autox.team.net" <6-pack@autox.team.net>, "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Transmission Lube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I use Valvoline 50w racing oil in my TR6 A-type OD/tran and have for 15 years with never an issue. I switched to it as a result of recommendations from this great list. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Nov 22, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Sam wrote: > I'm sure this has been discussed ad neauseum but I would like to > know what the > consensus is for Red Line lubricants. I am running an A-Type OD in > a TR6 and > regular tranny in a GT6. Which is suitable? MT90 or MTL? > Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving! > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 23 07:11:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16B143A00 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 07:11:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from rhombus.bright.net (rhombus.bright.net [209.143.0.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88380439E3 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 07:11:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from spamtest4.bright.net (spamtest4.bright.net [209.143.0.182]) by rhombus.bright.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qANEAT4O022894 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 09:10:29 -0500 Received: from rg7.cniteam.com (rg7.cniteam.com [209.143.0.247]) by spamtest4.bright.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id qANEC4M0004392 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 09:12:04 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([216.201.14.237]) by rg7.cniteam.com (MOS 4.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id BQB16527 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 09:12:04 -0500 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 09:12:16 -0500 From: Ted Schumacher User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 To: FOT refid=str=0001.0A020209.50AF8434.00B0,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-09-13 19:33:14, dmn=2009-09-10 00:05:08, mode=single engine Subject: [Fot] Triumph DVD's by John Clancy Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net List, we have these videos in stock. They are on the home page of our website - www.tsimportedautomotive.com. We have had these for over a year. We featured them at the recent Mitty and John and his wife were available at our booth to talk about the videos, sign them, etc. As a special from now until Jan 1, videos, regularly $25 + shipping are $20 including shipping. Yes, California Air is on the list. Or, any parts order over $100, new - used - stock - performance - rebuilt parts, receives a DVD of your choice for $5. Thanks foryour time. Hope everyone has a great holiday week-end. Ted -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx@bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 23 14:24:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93DA443A2B for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 14:24:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993C443A14 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 14:24:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.68]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qANLOn17021161 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:24:49 -0500 Received: from [10.39.208.175] (mobile-198-228-198-066.mycingular.net [198.228.198.66]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 437ABE000085 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:24:47 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Bock Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:24:42 -0500 To: FoTTriumph x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1353705889; bh=pVwNhagYULamhTWH0c1vtDoFxNXm3V7jT1r5H0yOSlM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=tnnkW0lXvApJDjM8vUmky0nlHAxYAh40SevtJV3PwvSJ4+txLbq2LUSENtYW3rgdX CaU5Ti3mW+PCRIeFYNmUzK1Yz/IDXIhxVtlCv89qpBPpe9wBQTAIspZkFlr6F+Ow2l dYhVaWkSLES01/DZnBVqZGhwovI0wyZHsw8+9J+s= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294450afe99d08ee Subject: [Fot] Turkey bowl Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Due to unforeseen circumstances I will not be able to attend the races. Sorry Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 24 08:58:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 220AB437EF for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 08:58:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm30-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm30-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.130]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18481437E9 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 08:58:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.57] by nm30.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Nov 2012 15:59:09 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.243] by tm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Nov 2012 15:59:09 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp106-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Nov 2012 15:59:09 -0000 s=s1024; t=1353772749; bh=hnT4NA0RabpGfaNLMxbDWgXFasXV6Ye385kMPU1SyZc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=dSA0AP05/G6VLNIkYdC9PmiJRLHKOtjY4PKEMPcdgFM41H5GXEyj3av7k5Ppd0rKctuvDWd7Z/11hRBpalbDiDXJjLr/Rzl5A8qZrDCqIm7MwFJmOMPp0I2O3y2+wTWdrJXPRGL/wPzqGFFwDtmCqhUv5CbygvG7V0HPATNz568= yIV9ysZITrwE23wYtYDuA1JWvXRWj8vWwhIhrTtvkgZiTCZ16JwTXwTWNAoR 3H1tvIkS_G281dzgnyEW9J8YY4HWjzbwc7WGjaa98HJYAdtyyEdNPBN6siZZ fTTNwTJXL8BWUmKa__ZmSEr9kvV05QwtgmT2swcuNKDecNgYgLoeiF92E14r V4IooghP4uL6O_Q94KmUjs7K9vMRR77x3rTBbO3elEGlDCNFejK5ONvPiLPS K7V.eytKZDA89e5h2Hh83R3V4cqBWROJkwoQKvyZ3iuaTL6ssu89OpgGcMb. rgyDhmwB97QJvZkdsG.baYicoxPr1Q9_qDFIZtH3UKQg6jJOuq99Y3Lamzdz iqj06BmeclbQKqnUx_B2SMkDP98oZvpskDCZJnUNAjBegDU67mAqM66XiFnV fRKbWaiMMmyCRlM6m0_i8MUx0TXNxanJ44teD8eAf9Ony4YttGlIY0oE_DWb QehK8QrDEh2S2SYkgpfbu2tqEng-- Received: from [192.168.2.5] (Tylerpthompson@67.190.144.189 with xymcookie) by smtp106-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Nov 2012 07:59:09 -0800 PST References: <11209.5b862d85.3dcff460@aol.com> <20121116001854.DD7102D0940@autox.team.net> <442C34F9-400C-4840-AF40-3145B767EF30@gdhs.com> <8CF91BB155C2C79-C64-16E65@webmail-m050.sysops.aol.com> From: "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 08:59:06 -0700 To: Joe Alexander Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] trt 3/4 head gasket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I pulled the head off of mine a few mons back. If folks recall, I broke 7 of 8 tops of the outer valve springs and one inner. I am fixing that and checking geometry. I do have oversized valves and 89 bore, and I found my Payen A330 gasket was burnt where the gasket was not ground back. My sleeves are not ground back as well. Can you grind back the copper Payen gasket with no issues? I will be feathering back the sleeves as well. Also, does anyone know the correct valve spring height? Thx Ty Sent from my iPad (Please excuse any errors or typos) On Nov 15, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Ditto...Using Payen for several years now and has been one less thing to worry > about. > > > > > Joe Alexander > > Subject: Re: [Fot] trt 3/4 head gasket > > > Like Tony we use a stock Payen gasket notched to fit the larger valve with no > problem. My take is that one must make sure the head & block are flat & true > & > properly installed. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 15, 2012, at 12:36 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > >> I use a stock composite gasket and will get a season out of it. I was at > about 0.175 milled, am now at 0.130 after my last head gasket problem turned > out to be a collapsing combustion chamber in the head problem. I don't have > giant valves (they clear the 87 mm liners), so I notched the liner to match > the "mickey ear" of the stock gasket so there was something supporting it on > one side in the pocket that disappeared. I put the seam side against the > liner then. >> >> Tony Drews >> >> At 12:18 PM 11/10/2012, KENMUN@aol.com wrote: >>> anyone having success with the stock composite head gasket on a milled >>> head. my head has been milled .150" and the intake valve pockets are gone. > i'm >>> not having much luck with the steel gasket. >>> thanks, ken m. tr 3 vintage racer. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tylerpthompson@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 24 10:53:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EDD04381C for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 10:53:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.55.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 08510437DD for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 10:53:43 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 14951 invoked by uid 0); 24 Nov 2012 17:54:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO just64.justhost.com) (173.254.28.64) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 24 Nov 2012 17:54:20 -0000 Received: from [173.22.113.197] (port=59966 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TcJvo-0002Cq-Af; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 10:54:20 -0700 Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 11:54:16 -0600 To: "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" , Joe Alexander From: Tony Drews References: <11209.5b862d85.3dcff460@aol.com> <20121116001854.DD7102D0940@autox.team.net> <442C34F9-400C-4840-AF40-3145B767EF30@gdhs.com> <8CF91BB155C2C79-C64-16E65@webmail-m050.sysops.aol.com> <7134A59A-E6E5-474B-8CCF-836FA05A89A4@yahoo.com> {sentby:smtp auth 173.22.113.197 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] trt 3/4 head gasket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You can't really "grind back" the composite gasket and still have it seal. You need to gingerly uncrimp the sandwich around the valve pocket, then cut back the inner asbestos-like material, then gingerly recrimp the two copper sides back together. It's easy to tear the copper in the process. Tony At 09:59 AM 11/24/2012, Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com wrote: >I pulled the head off of mine a few mons back. If folks recall, I >broke 7 of 8 tops of the outer valve springs and one inner. I am >fixing that and checking geometry. > >I do have oversized valves and 89 bore, and I found my Payen A330 >gasket was burnt where the gasket was not ground back. My sleeves >are not ground back as well. > >Can you grind back the copper Payen gasket with no issues? I will be >feathering back the sleeves as well. > >Also, does anyone know the correct valve spring height? > >Thx > >Ty > > >Sent from my iPad >(Please excuse any errors or typos) > >On Nov 15, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > > Ditto...Using Payen for several years now and has been one less > thing to worry > > about. > > > > > > > > > > Joe Alexander > > > > Subject: Re: [Fot] trt 3/4 head gasket > > > > > > Like Tony we use a stock Payen gasket notched to fit the larger > valve with no > > problem. My take is that one must make sure the head & block are > flat & true > > & > > properly installed. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Nov 15, 2012, at 12:36 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > > > >> I use a stock composite gasket and will get a season out of it. I was at > > about 0.175 milled, am now at 0.130 after my last head gasket > problem turned > > out to be a collapsing combustion chamber in the head problem. I > don't have > > giant valves (they clear the 87 mm liners), so I notched the liner to match > > the "mickey ear" of the stock gasket so there was something > supporting it on > > one side in the pocket that disappeared. I put the seam side against the > > liner then. > >> > >> Tony Drews > >> > >> At 12:18 PM 11/10/2012, KENMUN@aol.com wrote: > >>> anyone having success with the stock composite head gasket on a milled > >>> head. my head has been milled .150" and the intake valve > pockets are gone. > > i'm > >>> not having much luck with the steel gasket. > >>> thanks, ken m. tr 3 vintage racer. > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> fot@autox.team.net > >>> > >>> http://www.fot-racing.com > >>> > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tylerpthompson@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 24 13:05:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C67743807 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 13:05:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc3-s43.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc3-s43.snt0.hotmail.com [65.54.51.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F26D437F2 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 12:57:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT120-W21 ([65.55.90.137]) by snt0-omc3-s43.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 24 Nov 2012 11:58:03 -0800 From: Kas Kastner To: , "n197tr4@cs.com" Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 19:58:03 +0000 References: <11209.5b862d85.3dcff460@aol.com>, <20121116001854.DD7102D0940@autox.team.net>, <442C34F9-400C-4840-AF40-3145B767EF30@gdhs.com>, <8CF91BB155C2C79-C64-16E65@webmail-m050.sysops.aol.com>, <7134A59A-E6E5-474B-8CCF-836FA05A89A4@yahoo.com> FILETIME=[03985F60:01CDCA7E] Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] trt 3/4 head gasket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If you try to cut back a composite gasket you have a good chance of having the thin copper face parts facing into the flame of combustion which is going heat the copper red hot quickly, this will start pre-ignition and then detonation. Result, dead engine. In a few words. DON'T DO IT. Never be beaten by equipment > From: Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com > Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 08:59:06 -0700 > To: n197tr4@cs.com > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] trt 3/4 head gasket > > I pulled the head off of mine a few mons back. If folks recall, I broke 7 of 8 > tops of the outer valve springs and one inner. I am fixing that and checking > geometry. > > I do have oversized valves and 89 bore, and I found my Payen A330 gasket was > burnt where the gasket was not ground back. My sleeves are not ground back as > well. > > Can you grind back the copper Payen gasket with no issues? I will be > feathering back the sleeves as well. > > Also, does anyone know the correct valve spring height? > > Thx > > Ty > > > Sent from my iPad > (Please excuse any errors or typos) > > On Nov 15, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > > Ditto...Using Payen for several years now and has been one less thing to > worry > > about. > > > > > > > > > > Joe Alexander > > > > Subject: Re: [Fot] trt 3/4 head gasket > > > > > > Like Tony we use a stock Payen gasket notched to fit the larger valve with > no > > problem. My take is that one must make sure the head & block are flat & > true > > & > > properly installed. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Nov 15, 2012, at 12:36 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > > > >> I use a stock composite gasket and will get a season out of it. I was at > > about 0.175 milled, am now at 0.130 after my last head gasket problem > turned > > out to be a collapsing combustion chamber in the head problem. I don't > have > > giant valves (they clear the 87 mm liners), so I notched the liner to match > > the "mickey ear" of the stock gasket so there was something supporting it > on > > one side in the pocket that disappeared. I put the seam side against the > > liner then. > >> > >> Tony Drews > >> > >> At 12:18 PM 11/10/2012, KENMUN@aol.com wrote: > >>> anyone having success with the stock composite head gasket on a milled > >>> head. my head has been milled .150" and the intake valve pockets are > gone. > > i'm > >>> not having much luck with the steel gasket. > >>> thanks, ken m. tr 3 vintage racer. > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> fot@autox.team.net > >>> > >>> http://www.fot-racing.com > >>> > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tylerpthompson@yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 10:22:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB3B43800 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 10:22:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com (outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com [64.136.47.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id DE6D140EBE for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 10:22:01 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1353864152; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=iKROvEaPoXb1p35YvyebWzOBWeDUg6bxlI5C2xfQDrwlS9eICvRc2b32RUkAeqvxy u+v6oSqCK1ECGS4Rtf+yO8LLVpAe2fb4OQ4PoERbLZolAGdX8oxd1jMatWd6fnYdqK cOIG8aBePTD6789oj7Q7yU3dLwBYtRFG3H4HmgnE= Received: from outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com (webmail10.dca.untd.com [10.171.12.150]) by smtpout03.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABJMEW8QALWQ24A for (sender ); Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:22:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [76.23.185.62] by webmail10.dca.untd.com with HTTP: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 17:21:50 GMT From: "Joe Boruch" Full-Name: "Joe Boruch" Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 17:21:50 GMT To: Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] trt 3/4 head gasket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Valve spring height will depend on what valves, retainers, springs and seat pressure you are using. I am using BFE valves, springs and titanium retainers and use a 1.6 inch spring height. I have to use spring seats and shims to achieve that. I have redline set at 7300 rpm and want to be sure that I don't float the valves, so my seat pressure is higher than what some may run. Sorry, but I don't have my notes handy to tell you what the spring pressures are. 210 pounds at 0.5 inch lift seams to ring a bell. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" To: Joe Alexander Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] trt 3/4 head gasket Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 08:59:06 -0700 I pulled the head off of mine a few mons back. If folks recall, I broke 7 of 8 tops of the outer valve springs and one inner. I am fixing that and checking geometry. I do have oversized valves and 89 bore, and I found my Payen A330 gasket was burnt where the gasket was not ground back. My sleeves are not ground back as well. Can you grind back the copper Payen gasket with no issues? I will be feathering back the sleeves as well. Also, does anyone know the correct valve spring height? Thx Ty Sent from my iPad (Please excuse any errors or typos) On Nov 15, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Ditto...Using Payen for several years now and has been one less thing to worry > about. > > > > > Joe Alexander > > Subject: Re: [Fot] trt 3/4 head gasket > > > Like Tony we use a stock Payen gasket notched to fit the larger valve with no > problem. My take is that one must make sure the head & block are flat & true > & > properly installed. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 15, 2012, at 12:36 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > >> I use a stock composite gasket and will get a season out of it. I was at > about 0.175 milled, am now at 0.130 after my last head gasket problem turned > out to be a collapsing combustion chamber in the head problem. I don't have > giant valves (they clear the 87 mm liners), so I notched the liner to match > the "mickey ear" of the stock gasket so there was something supporting it on > one side in the pocket that disappeared. I put the seam side against the > liner then. >> >> Tony Drews >> >> At 12:18 PM 11/10/2012, KENMUN@aol.com wrote: >>> anyone having success with the stock composite head gasket on a milled >>> head. my head has been milled .150" and the intake valve pockets are gone. > i'm >>> not having much luck with the steel gasket. >>> thanks, ken m. tr 3 vintage racer. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tylerpthompson@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 10:33:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A28E43837 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 10:33:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com (outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com [64.136.47.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 21F8640EC5 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 10:31:52 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1353864744; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=DM1JlrDfQ2T6GFBPdVgastXmvBfL6LUtZ8GN2bYsxQUjb+81EgtjrLCIUGRn+KDRZ alXCTBBmc3jIkjrFSp6wJx/SEmWOKOYaxCDgLbC2JylQBabvlezPMRRK9azi9VTnlm h/QWDr2YCBLylo+VI22fci9KQEECXO189XSgMkTA= Received: from outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com (webmail10.dca.untd.com [10.171.12.150]) by smtpout01.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABJMEXRYAUX8P2J for (sender ); Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:31:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [76.23.185.62] by webmail10.dca.untd.com with HTTP: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 17:30:25 GMT From: "Joe Boruch" Full-Name: "Joe Boruch" Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 17:30:25 GMT To: jhhasty@gdhs.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I run slicks with SCCA. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: John Hasty To: Joe Boruch Cc: "sjanzen@me.com" , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:29:48 -0500 Where is it legal to run slicks? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 21, 2012, at 10:47 PM, "Joe Boruch" wrote: > I have trying for about 28 psi hot with my TR3. Joe(B) > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Scott Janzen > To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph > Subject: [Fot] tire pressures for Goodyear Eagle slicks, TR4? > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:35:19 -0500 > > looking for a starting point - 23x9x15 slicks on 7" wheels. > Weather will be cool - 50 degrees. What should these run when they are warm? > 25lb? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > > ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 15:42:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B438F43869 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:42:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm22-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm22-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A3940ED2 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 12:22:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm22.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Nov 2012 19:23:35 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.85] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Nov 2012 19:23:35 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1022.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Nov 2012 19:23:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 43392 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Nov 2012 19:23:34 -0000 s=s1024; t=1353612214; bh=JpS8/F4jsPr97vHCLCdiUgzs9RBdTq2SZycVN995o90=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Pa2OglhoY28yeUP1ViLMhs412rvMVDvCtAdyF0XO0FGtltLhG+aWbqZ+YIHTg6dkeJV82qOx4UaILMu1g7A6QXsvzsOLMYa0XuGwXvSzhnzahQmnKSqB0Xtl8zRzgX5GDXdUMRgHEPH0zITYaaxLEwVIWpVaMLNpnznjRA+nNTY= s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XxZ5dedIWkHmSKJi3xJ/7vocstn+LUPkwD4KnKvdZZc6L2F0o99Ma8E2nri1hykEqrPaqZbKH8eg2JhNfnvNYKbv5T/WNI51iIMGta0zsaZ6re2B2Wnndu6OpOA3rX5SqmAtjUqder8lWg25SW+UD8DMIGfU+Zn7azMczrdRppo=; .lwVLn6lvI7m_7NrqaqeEA84WoOOZ1v2YBhAe1Q2ZkLvYv8OzH2tyOOIErh9 fu0JnY3pTI2JyoORrMeLG67R_b1Z.hIW8o5g_HiRsOesFOIG4jJKW8eqiXGZ We6ng8d66HWlVveP8r0ZK5SjOFQo0BLZQJLhW6pkNa5vn_t5iwL.Vho0Ez5k R9Ovi4aatP7CkThJRw5VI4gLHnSc7UJWxA.SFfT3xyOteBANmOHo8jGSjoSL v2kRPOFSC3bYuVlW6CapN8rG5xas.BIX1KVJ6IA3JkRXBz4oxi7QniLHL3Vy eEtvHcfvAO4uttP0x55QNkCmUJ0H9tLXbZkS_aFgg4vZlH388_6HoCJciV9Z cHEIVO0iCDcdd0z.VsOTDRwwm7c4U_AVFj3D5ieHxOCHf.yG2AB_4jlLkO0. 0V5439JWk2O.bZAEOxjYTNdd5ToyOwv8BvFA6NTOFFTjaf_LvGfQb.hq_CvI 4th4RfSYoPzCgs39csBRkMFrn_BmnObhagHlJlZc5qs6Kn6o8S2jOQacb6Ox pwgMj.GL2dn3zd1WrL7zo8HbhDHlZLY_Z6bCY2qJXoWFU3tu5zX4O6oF6bhb smuZjuoT6zxbOF.nKY01gGKuuxzKZhVRzRB0jD6f6kl6UJNWTUcKfP6oZK6B H3IMHJNv7rtNZyWhArwtQ4YTm9UoWdqL75xbpy60- Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web181403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:23:34 PST DQpJIGNvdWxkIGJlIG1pc3Rha2VuIGJ1dCBJIGJlbGlldmUgdGhlcmUgaXMgYWxzbyBhIGRpZmZlcmVuY2UgaW4gdGhlIG92ZXJhbGwgbGVuZ3RoIG9mIHRoZSBjeWxpbmRlciwgd2hpY2ggcmVxdWlyZXMgaXQgdG8gYmUgbW91bnRlZCBvbiB0aGUgb3Bwb3NpdGUgc2lkZSBvZiB0aGUgbW91bnRpbmcgYnJhY2tldC4NCkpNVEMNCi1FZC0NCg0KLS0tIE9uIFRodSwgMTEvMjIvMTIsIGRhdmVob2d5ZSA8ZGxob2d5ZUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldD4gd3JvdGU6DQoNCg0KRnJvbTogZGF2ZWhvZ3llIDxkbGhvZ3llQGNvbWMBMAEBAQE- Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:23:34 -0800 (PST) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: Fot@autox.team.net, davehogye Subject: Re: [Fot] slave cylinder replies Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I could be mistaken but I believe there is also a difference in the overall length of the cylinder, which requires it to be mounted on the opposite side of the mounting bracket. JMTC -Ed- --- On Thu, 11/22/12, davehogye wrote: From: davehogye Subject: [Fot] slave cylinder replies To: Fot@autox.team.net Date: Thursday, November 22, 2012, 12:52 PM FoT, I guess that I should share what I've learned about TR slave cylinders. It seams that either TR4A or TR6 slave cylinder will work. Attention needs to be paid to the push rod length, an adjustable rod is available and I've been informed that the TR6 slave has an internal return spring compared to the external spring on the earlier units. Later TR3s through TR4A use the same slave. Thanks again, Dave _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 21:21:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF354386B for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 21:21:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E9040EBF for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 20:58:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.146] by nm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Nov 2012 03:59:08 -0000 Received: from [98.139.173.41] by tm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Nov 2012 03:59:08 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp125-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Nov 2012 03:59:08 -0000 s=s1024; t=1353902348; bh=ZjcHMehbD0mRPNShw/6uiDa7Q+faPb2Y6N+ra/5KIiw=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=HPdnvUkGepK5umAfTbeCCln/Wlpd70IouL+9N+CVt1XCF5Ihs0wNk2TgtkFjKioZ4tUDKWpQ86RmyU+z61vUjSfzPAhz2sOCG2/f9aMN3MM0XcCw0yZ7t3EGGjnMx3NL1Jqc2TTnWeuGvyMVuJ5F2wyZfeTfINO3B9HexgmF/Jg= emWBK3t5Q5bpOd.8rlhcyQSCx3l.ngXWBUtzG6ephxT03xNDy8g_dsoJDvOV axjfGuc4PdOwSH.G69zeNETABDcM6H4_7z.WWIcXHKbyES0zK7O3qaS5Nuzp mQreJ7oEBe146Cs9Ql_ew7A_sAHTeEHymNFq2fZ_2c1Jk0DISRapSt0pwx6J lc9mCntYS7v9qvfpdt88g4wgmuou0Ufjn2dJ7LiSZflHd9czaaqpQjvVnO36 XO_4WePRSOKgbRnLNv2AgqD9ZHnzUbrukonA1Bnoj9B_Wqz8iV49hQFRvJ.T NiMOR_n4Q3vbAdrCraueSOikydCBD.lNzHDWTixadnXZh_1aHeC6icBQtOfQ ZVwkB8FwDXSzDWRZ4mdcrEdMZjj1DKKpEqU5EV6953AS629BwGIz2k8dNMFK R54zIR5bcIo1VzEOrP8i4ogpHYLQl1QWNN4QnZmiviMO.BcGKadUmwO3MI.c y6AnWp1F60o9dCyltu6rsA2gRLNY- Received: from [192.168.2.5] (tylerpthompson@67.190.144.189 with xymcookie) by smtp125-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Nov 2012 03:59:08 +0000 UTC References: <11209.5b862d85.3dcff460@aol.com> <20121116001854.DD7102D0940@autox.team.net> <442C34F9-400C-4840-AF40-3145B767EF30@gdhs.com> <8CF91BB155C2C79-C64-16E65@webmail-m050.sysops.aol.com> <7134A59A-E6E5-474B-8CCF-836FA05A89A4@yahoo.com> From: Yahoo Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 20:59:06 -0700 To: Kas Kastner Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] trt 3/4 head gasket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Kas! I need all the advice I can get. Happy Holidays Ty Sent from my iPhone '63 Triumph TR4 DP Racecar '62 Triumph TR4 RestoMod (Project) ++++ On Nov 24, 2012, at 12:58 PM, Kas Kastner wrote: > If you try to cut back a composite gasket you have a good chance of having the thin copper face parts facing into the flame of combustion which is going heat the copper red hot quickly, this will start pre-ignition and then detonation. Result, dead engine. In a few words. DON'T DO IT. > > Never be beaten by equipment > > > From: Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com > > Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 08:59:06 -0700 > > To: n197tr4@cs.com > > CC: fot@autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Fot] trt 3/4 head gasket > > > > I pulled the head off of mine a few mons back. If folks recall, I broke 7 of 8 > > tops of the outer valve springs and one inner. I am fixing that and checking > > geometry. > > > > I do have oversized valves and 89 bore, and I found my Payen A330 gasket was > > burnt where the gasket was not ground back. My sleeves are not ground back as > > well. > > > > Can you grind back the copper Payen gasket with no issues? I will be > > feathering back the sleeves as well. > > > > Also, does anyone know the correct valve spring height? > > > > Thx > > > > Ty > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > (Please excuse any errors or typos) > > > > On Nov 15, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > > > > Ditto...Using Payen for several years now and has been one less thing to > > worry > > > about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joe Alexander > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Fot] trt 3/4 head gasket > > > > > > > > > Like Tony we use a stock Payen gasket notched to fit the larger valve with > > no > > > problem. My take is that one must make sure the head & block are flat & > > true > > > & > > > properly installed. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > On Nov 15, 2012, at 12:36 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > > > > > >> I use a stock composite gasket and will get a season out of it. I was at > > > about 0.175 milled, am now at 0.130 after my last head gasket problem > > turned > > > out to be a collapsing combustion chamber in the head problem. I don't > > have > > > giant valves (they clear the 87 mm liners), so I notched the liner to match > > > the "mickey ear" of the stock gasket so there was something supporting it > > on > > > one side in the pocket that disappeared. I put the seam side against the > > > liner then. > > >> > > >> Tony Drews > > >> > > >> At 12:18 PM 11/10/2012, KENMUN@aol.com wrote: > > >>> anyone having success with the stock composite head gasket on a milled > > >>> head. my head has been milled .150" and the intake valve pockets are > > gone. > > > i'm > > >>> not having much luck with the steel gasket. > > >>> thanks, ken m. tr 3 vintage racer. > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> fot@autox.team.net > > >>> > > >>> http://www.fot-racing.com > > >>> > > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > >>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> fot@autox.team.net > > >> > > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > > >> > > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tylerpthompson@yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 21:24:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC70438B6 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 21:24:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm18-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm18-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.138]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245C7437E9 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 21:05:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.214.32] by nm18.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Nov 2012 04:06:18 -0000 Received: from [76.13.13.224] by tm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Nov 2012 04:06:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp103-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Nov 2012 04:06:18 -0000 s=s1024; t=1353902778; bh=DCX1eDIJXcusikqrD4LtLYSiLz5xr/0pZtn/Y4uCVss=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=tK61DDDhS9056En1X8TLPSFoMj8m0OZDGOQGBLUKG5oviQQpBLCfpuDQiRNnOpTjnLrTxyYRSvylu/ONMRgda15Ix662s+EZOw1PVV5yjf1JNRbL3tvuiO8Pty/K4znwOzrJ+u/MGNMsHfliFjAeubvyeGenEISThEMO/v9bM8E= BQnu7utH5NKFWqsxKRKL_xuuT1xIFJWGYDg0hgd1mVKzm5JkrvZ4MYFH9SwO Yg73gTU9ybaUOZMnqLTTn.zPQ8qkVLJxAMkcpOzyYJVQHImUU6cTDBfzB55q 8Rw3Z5OTp9ewvA3NxG.G3qbWo7O6FKCwLb4xbU85YpSaLELmBN0BDbFfa8ei 2E7Mb3uOjvNDQjEwLRRve2QZsQ6TJ0xAiUmufq2h_vtMLVbvt3FCCGxHQQdO VGVyaIXPziZGVkLweHu0QFkwhTMGTED7mljk9dYNBINNEZDydRJ2qLtPVN4e 4PdqypnqWwPhT3ndBe8mnqrtozIxbuOXA_s_SnlAt6weuTWRjhUEUBwt8U_J toLa9t_VPLijF0F36WZWXrSyzldQInfvPIY6l28CsOeotPcWzbzBPHc1XdbC _9DBMGY_7SrvaQzRWR_0dY55Ks4qCkO1t7SA9ulP5fzl8sKHIwt5z3630HK8 qs_i72.NmfyU0N3jCk_MWRMHC6w-- Received: from [192.168.2.5] (tylerpthompson@67.190.144.189 with xymcookie) by smtp103-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2012 20:06:18 -0800 PST References: <11209.5b862d85.3dcff460@aol.com> <20121116001854.DD7102D0940@autox.team.net> <442C34F9-400C-4840-AF40-3145B767EF30@gdhs.com> <8CF91BB155C2C79-C64-16E65@webmail-m050.sysops.aol.com> <7134A59A-E6E5-474B-8CCF-836FA05A89A4@yahoo.com> From: Yahoo Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 21:06:17 -0700 To: Tony Drews Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] trt 3/4 head gasket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The car came with a new steel gasket. I will take some measurements to see how thick it is. Thanks Tony Ty Sent from my iPhone '63 Triumph TR4 DP Racecar '62 Triumph TR4 RestoMod (Project) ++++ On Nov 24, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > You can't really "grind back" the composite gasket and still have it seal. You need to gingerly uncrimp the sandwich around the valve pocket, then cut back the inner asbestos-like material, then gingerly recrimp the two copper sides back together. It's easy to tear the copper in the process. > > Tony > > At 09:59 AM 11/24/2012, Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com wrote: >> I pulled the head off of mine a few mons back. If folks recall, I broke 7 of 8 tops of the outer valve springs and one inner. I am fixing that and checking geometry. >> >> I do have oversized valves and 89 bore, and I found my Payen A330 gasket was burnt where the gasket was not ground back. My sleeves are not ground back as well. >> >> Can you grind back the copper Payen gasket with no issues? I will be feathering back the sleeves as well. >> >> Also, does anyone know the correct valve spring height? >> >> Thx >> >> Ty >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> (Please excuse any errors or typos) >> >> On Nov 15, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: >> >> > Ditto...Using Payen for several years now and has been one less thing to worry >> > about. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Joe Alexander >> > >> > Subject: Re: [Fot] trt 3/4 head gasket >> > >> > >> > Like Tony we use a stock Payen gasket notched to fit the larger valve with no >> > problem. My take is that one must make sure the head & block are flat & true >> > & >> > properly installed. >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > On Nov 15, 2012, at 12:36 AM, Tony Drews wrote: >> > >> >> I use a stock composite gasket and will get a season out of it. I was at >> > about 0.175 milled, am now at 0.130 after my last head gasket problem turned >> > out to be a collapsing combustion chamber in the head problem. I don't have >> > giant valves (they clear the 87 mm liners), so I notched the liner to match >> > the "mickey ear" of the stock gasket so there was something supporting it on >> > one side in the pocket that disappeared. I put the seam side against the >> > liner then. >> >> >> >> Tony Drews >> >> >> >> At 12:18 PM 11/10/2012, KENMUN@aol.com wrote: >> >>> anyone having success with the stock composite head gasket on a milled >> >>> head. my head has been milled .150" and the intake valve pockets are gone. >> > i'm >> >>> not having much luck with the steel gasket. >> >>> thanks, ken m. tr 3 vintage racer. >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> fot@autox.team.net >> >>> >> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >>> >> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com >> > _______________________________________________ >> > fot@autox.team.net >> > >> > http://www.fot-racing.com >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com >> > _______________________________________________ >> > fot@autox.team.net >> > >> > http://www.fot-racing.com >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tylerpthompson@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 09:05:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1767438AC for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 09:05:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s37.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s37.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.112]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED5443811 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 08:56:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT120-W37 ([65.55.90.71]) by snt0-omc2-s37.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 26 Nov 2012 07:56:47 -0800 From: Kas Kastner To: fot Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:56:47 +0000 FILETIME=[A3C58BE0:01CDCBEE] Subject: [Fot] Sad News Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net James Anthony Coan passed away Sunday in Los Angeles. Jimmy had been quit ill for several years. Jim was my right hand man for years and years, then upon my retirement, the Competition Manager for Triumph. Hard working, smart and a neat guy, my old pal Jim. Never be beaten by equipment _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 11:08:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB0F43872 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 11:08:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C41C243859 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 11:04:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id UEkP1k0020QkzPwA2J4rms; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:04:51 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.72] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id UJ4p1k00x4L5TyG8NJ4qS6; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:04:51 +0000 From: Bud Rolofson To: "fot@autox.team.net List" Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 11:04:49 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Front Sway Bar? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net http://s1162.beta.photobucket.com/user/levi3451/library/Spitfire%20Front%20Sway%20Bar Can anyone tell me what brand of front sway bar this is? It came on the Spit I bought in September. I've googled for similar ones with no luck. I'm going to have to make some adjustments to it as the front tires rub and one tire (brand new Hoosier) is now shot. I guess that's part of the surprises you get from DPOs. It's been fun sorting out a number of little things getting it ready for next spring but that one was an unwelcome hit. But at least it was found in the shop and not on the track. All the more reason to go completely through a race car before risking life and limb on someone else's work. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 12:19:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 164B8439AF for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:19:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0623A43878 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:00:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B36A138A for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:02:12 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:02:11 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: fot References: Subject: Re: [Fot] Sad News Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That is sad news. Many years ago I talked to him on the phone regarding the GT6 I had at the time, he was a nice guy, willing to put up with me for a few minutes. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 14:29:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40FE9438A5 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:29:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f169.google.com (mail-ea0-f169.google.com [209.85.215.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB39A43820; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:02:20 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ea0-f169.google.com with SMTP id a12so4720704eaa.14 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:02:46 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=1rSOz4vjp8dnoyKq7B5HByXb0V6HMFSaSqqoAzNrqcE=; b=t5GKZcZs5QxA/t5cPjhXBt6l5HjjM5MQtpQeMm22UpHJEMOioho7sXoVpSkehTov0z LMS1zhT6k8HtLs0HaXcQ7XZWTrnFchDwc4VCYuxuYuXfBtpbQ9wrO24EZFSjZJvWyC9V +98IIf76ntEBerMTbRkL645aulrd4PFCPH+JXYvQ3HbT17nxgoUAuBef+QJgP+9Ejjsw IkB6g9fSgF4kzjwitRbiCslgcprXx4+xhc+FpBWxrVuyuuI0kkbOv3oW473IryAuj1bj TUxNEbpVQGwo0KI0O03SheI2wvnlwDWHxgFgs6dutKY6D7R9C4N9noWVimOxhl72EyBo yywQ== Received: by 10.14.209.193 with SMTP id s41mr12268780eeo.9.1353963766351; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:02:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.210.198 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:02:46 -0800 (PST) References: <18A4FAF7-DB37-4453-B59A-DE966EFDE1BD@aol.com> <7FB2D465-E473-4CD3-966B-070AEBD44583@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:02:46 -0500 From: Robert Deanes To: Bud Rolofson Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , Sam , "fot@autox.team.net" , "6-pack@autox.team.net" <6-pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Transmission Lube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I also run 30 weight in my A drive recommended by two old TR builders Dave Crane and John Esposito with no failures since 2007., got to love those old "A" drives....the fun in the button ...as close as I will get to F1 gear changing ! Wooo Hooo On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Bud Rolofson wrote: > I use Valvoline 50w racing oil in my TR6 A-type OD/tran and have for > 15 years with never an issue. I switched to it as a result of > recommendations from this great list. > > > Bud Rolofson > > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 > 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) > 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) > Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) > > > > > > > > On Nov 22, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Sam wrote: > > > I'm sure this has been discussed ad neauseum but I would like to > > know what the > > consensus is for Red Line lubricants. I am running an A-Type OD in > > a TR6 and > > regular tranny in a GT6. Which is suitable? MT90 or MTL? > > Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving! > > > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 15:14:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538C3438C4 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:14:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f41.google.com (mail-la0-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B15243800; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:57:45 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id m15so8741289lah.14 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:58:11 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=0+gMQ23UoYhTrKFU0iUCshTX2ma13aMtQdvlDD3+iG0=; b=JJS2R2+3TT/zzKCFD8uGRuzWYnQRr4MpSNjeZQtrevqZL513UCtOQAG6XAcTfVWPj1 4wqn1ub3kW3rK9ADQEzi0QgUAtxWphUGZmq+EVZ4PBs09Wn5oB3XcPYzG045WTDWIWX0 jzGnx5f7xIFHCQf3FOZ+10DN8Lxmfc5krgWaI0ToDKLBltmV8lYO3yfJb4dEcyZR42jf K3dPAgF0azct3KPTocVtT9RYYoWMgPmlyhvohclaWCNeAxD6lEri1qT+cxIZ+5uDUMta msW/MQTCglnLedCIbv2hz/EXPNdstIDnh9hJlPRLpi6GWXQxAVkvlFSg7O6m3RemfEQi f13g== Received: by 10.152.106.79 with SMTP id gs15mr12605072lab.31.1353967090788; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:58:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.28.73 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:58:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.28.73 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:58:10 -0800 (PST) References: <18A4FAF7-DB37-4453-B59A-DE966EFDE1BD@aol.com> <7FB2D465-E473-4CD3-966B-070AEBD44583@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:58:10 -0800 From: Christian Marx To: Robert Deanes Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , Sam , fot@autox.team.net, "6-pack@autox.team.net" <6-pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Transmission Lube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I run EP 140 gearbox oil with OD. Cheers Chris Am 26.11.2012 22:29 schrieb "Robert Deanes" : > I also run 30 weight in my A drive recommended by two old TR builders Dave > Crane and John Esposito with no failures since 2007., got to love those > old "A" drives....the fun in the button ...as close as I will get to F1 > gear changing ! Wooo Hooo > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Bud Rolofson > wrote: > > > I use Valvoline 50w racing oil in my TR6 A-type OD/tran and have for > > 15 years with never an issue. I switched to it as a result of > > recommendations from this great list. > > > > > > Bud Rolofson > > > > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > > 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 > > 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) > > 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) > > Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 22, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Sam wrote: > > > > > I'm sure this has been discussed ad neauseum but I would like to > > > know what the > > > consensus is for Red Line lubricants. I am running an A-Type OD in > > > a TR6 and > > > regular tranny in a GT6. Which is suitable? MT90 or MTL? > > > Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving! > > > > > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi@comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > -- > rob deanes > TR Racer > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 15:44:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB034389A for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:44:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail202c2.megamailservers.com (mail202c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136F540ED1; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:16:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.254.56.197] (146.sub-174-252-191.myvzw.com [174.252.191.146]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail202c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id qAQMGcXF016652 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:16:41 -0500 References: <18A4FAF7-DB37-4453-B59A-DE966EFDE1BD@aol.com> <7FB2D465-E473-4CD3-966B-070AEBD44583@comcast.net> From: John Hasty Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:16:36 -0500 To: Robert Deanes a=wkZFi_rvF0oA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=MKfTS82DFkO7ExZ75Cm8jQ==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=DbqgLIKYBDR8YQnmyFcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=MKfTS82DFkO7ExZ75Cm8jQ==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , Sam , "6-pack@autox.team.net" <6-pack@autox.team.net>, "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Transmission Lube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Robert. How large did you enlarge the relief hole? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 26, 2012, at 4:02 PM, Robert Deanes wrote: > I also run 30 weight in my A drive recommended by two old TR builders Dave > Crane and John Esposito with no failures since 2007., got to love those > old "A" drives....the fun in the button ...as close as I will get to F1 > gear changing ! Wooo Hooo > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Bud Rolofson wrote: > >> I use Valvoline 50w racing oil in my TR6 A-type OD/tran and have for >> 15 years with never an issue. I switched to it as a result of >> recommendations from this great list. >> >> >> Bud Rolofson >> >> 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) >> 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 >> 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) >> 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) >> Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Nov 22, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Sam wrote: >> >>> I'm sure this has been discussed ad neauseum but I would like to >>> know what the >>> consensus is for Red Line lubricants. I am running an A-Type OD in >>> a TR6 and >>> regular tranny in a GT6. Which is suitable? MT90 or MTL? >>> Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving! >>> >>> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi@comcast.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- > rob deanes > TR Racer > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 16:22:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CABE43955 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:22:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D2F43882; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:51:00 -0700 (MST) a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:17 a=7KaaxAUCt-sA:10 a=wkZFi_rvF0oA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=l40KZInVd40A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=F7LM8NFoYKIA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=oxoiVEuT5HDuIBLlerUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:117 Received: from [67.255.16.235] ([67.255.16.235:49194] helo=Russlaptop) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 6C/56-18789-D62F3B05; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:51:25 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: "'Christian Marx'" , "'Robert Deanes'" References: <18A4FAF7-DB37-4453-B59A-DE966EFDE1BD@aol.com> <7FB2D465-E473-4CD3-966B-070AEBD44583@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:51:22 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac3MI48UYdVN11jiRVCEWLUte7kYdgABNDdw Content-Language: en-us Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, 'Sam' , fot@autox.team.net, 6-pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Transmission Lube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I presume you don't run that in cold weather. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Christian Marx Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:58 PM To: Robert Deanes Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net; Sam; fot@autox.team.net; 6-pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Transmission Lube I run EP 140 gearbox oil with OD. Cheers Chris Am 26.11.2012 22:29 schrieb "Robert Deanes" : > I also run 30 weight in my A drive recommended by two old TR builders > Dave Crane and John Esposito with no failures since 2007., got to love > those old "A" drives....the fun in the button ...as close as I will get to F1 > gear changing ! Wooo Hooo > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Bud Rolofson > wrote: > > > I use Valvoline 50w racing oil in my TR6 A-type OD/tran and have for > > 15 years with never an issue. I switched to it as a result of > > recommendations from this great list. > > > > > > Bud Rolofson > > > > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > > 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 > > 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) > > 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly > > Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 22, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Sam wrote: > > > > > I'm sure this has been discussed ad neauseum but I would like to > > > know what the consensus is for Red Line lubricants. I am running > > > an A-Type OD in a TR6 and regular tranny in a GT6. Which is > > > suitable? MT90 or MTL? > > > Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving! > > > > > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi@comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > -- > rob deanes > TR Racer > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 16:23:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D688C43A24 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:23:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8707A43882; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:52:45 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-lb0-f169.google.com with SMTP id gk1so11037587lbb.14 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:53:10 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=LqPQ74GHtKY54s3/NzOLGFc+4vSsGuX0dMTuvaVcv2U=; b=w32BhmMI7AHS0RIGROwTKZA/re1kSumqNjJFnEeocKFS4Xx+isuSbj9gEHYg91qnmY yew+M6kN2weYzMbatVqA7//+xvIYNaSKx4D8AQQIZl5H54OX8zhZR73A1saaAkvvSPbH UzTBKKVbc0tspDbPsgOHyyuRzswILfhuY/7532GJboFxoeAEh3CZZcuHvWUSFuU2T+24 oAROIYRHyLxWMZSw9PZ6ZBTbN8cxMO6/KfHZJDh3xX5ME7Jccot9OEZwDSrtKKUQgOVU KreuyARL6za5lJNp2kVXW6o4+cK6OV/tyw0Q7CDATgPW6EbXp45pEerhZ3j66HEJLVmC P2rg== Received: by 10.112.44.161 with SMTP id f1mr5413019lbm.29.1353970390355; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:53:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.28.73 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:53:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.28.73 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:53:10 -0800 (PST) References: <18A4FAF7-DB37-4453-B59A-DE966EFDE1BD@aol.com> <7FB2D465-E473-4CD3-966B-070AEBD44583@comcast.net> <000301cdcc28$8ed515e0$ac7f41a0$@rr.com> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:53:10 -0800 From: Christian Marx To: Spitfire Racing Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, Sam , fot@autox.team.net, 6-pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Transmission Lube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On every race event. I don't drive in snow with that car. Am 26.11.2012 23:51 schrieb "Spitfire Racing" : > I presume you don't run that in cold weather. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Christian Marx > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:58 PM > To: Robert Deanes > Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net; Sam; fot@autox.team.net; > 6-pack@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Transmission Lube > > I run EP 140 gearbox oil with OD. > > Cheers > Chris > Am 26.11.2012 22:29 schrieb "Robert Deanes" : > > > I also run 30 weight in my A drive recommended by two old TR builders > > Dave Crane and John Esposito with no failures since 2007., got to love > > those old "A" drives....the fun in the button ...as close as I will get > to > F1 > > gear changing ! Wooo Hooo > > > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Bud Rolofson > > wrote: > > > > > I use Valvoline 50w racing oil in my TR6 A-type OD/tran and have for > > > 15 years with never an issue. I switched to it as a result of > > > recommendations from this great list. > > > > > > > > > Bud Rolofson > > > > > > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > > > 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 > > > 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) > > > 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly > > > Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 22, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Sam wrote: > > > > > > > I'm sure this has been discussed ad neauseum but I would like to > > > > know what the consensus is for Red Line lubricants. I am running > > > > an A-Type OD in a TR6 and regular tranny in a GT6. Which is > > > > suitable? MT90 or MTL? > > > > Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving! > > > > > > > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi@comcast.net > > > _______________________________________________ > > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > rob deanes > > TR Racer > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 16:35:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD86438CE for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:35:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f41.google.com (mail-la0-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E092240EC3; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:08:23 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id m15so8790209lah.14 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:08:49 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=sa9NfABZ8tclEKXyT6EQ00bSyVdlgnINwt2tvZmqa9s=; b=oTC0PBnLc+smm7C94AIWTFTdMzlZXT3GV/xLcOxdlxfjwAcM3l/b74v0VWT4mt1h0t 1iHd9vzNctMW01M2u4iUYQh2T0AuDgQncpX6HoLcpelwBP+1kHWm9vcsVRGpg2PKQUkr v/Z7QQAfkEdYQVOMtzuZPHY15wsdZRurzm+QUefKna87eF3cDKOILvF5osEzEykGgQHY pfleJjYCyWFzvqQ+1+ZE7QcClu+dqD2ICHmimQXufZSKo51EMJOFEZKqeiDjmJ0m0JVq wEwsHAW1QeeaZHjrzdErBuDvO2UkyGDXDbNx3se5h/MP042L9uvfCUtpEmCQ3bwcjvUV BQBQ== Received: by 10.112.47.233 with SMTP id g9mr5821777lbn.11.1353971328841; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:08:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.28.73 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:08:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.28.73 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:08:48 -0800 (PST) References: <18A4FAF7-DB37-4453-B59A-DE966EFDE1BD@aol.com> <7FB2D465-E473-4CD3-966B-070AEBD44583@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:08:48 -0800 From: Christian Marx To: Sam Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, "6-pack@autox.team.net" <6-pack@autox.team.net>, "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Transmission Lube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net As for race cars they are getting glowing hot in a race. Thick oil does protect the components I guess. Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 17:45:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE61643A78 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:45:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc1-s47.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc1-s47.snt0.hotmail.com [65.54.61.84]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D11C4435A1; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:22:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT403-EAS8 ([65.55.90.9]) by snt0-omc1-s47.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:22:39 -0800 References: <18A4FAF7-DB37-4453-B59A-DE966EFDE1BD@aol.com> <7FB2D465-E473-4CD3-966B-070AEBD44583@comcast.net> From: Vince G Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:22:38 -0500 To: Sam FILETIME=[4F0038C0:01CDCC35] Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , "6-pack@autox.team.net" <6-pack@autox.team.net>, "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Transmission Lube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm using 90 gear lube in both my 70 GT6's. Street car is with OD, race car straight 4sp. The race cars synchro is causing problems on gearing down from 3rd to 2nd so I'll be rebuilding my spare this winter. I ran 30 non detergent in my original GT6 Mk1 as a kid with no problems. Sent from my iPhone On 2012-11-26, at 6:03 PM, "Sam" wrote: > Thanks for the response. The more opinions I get the more I find there is not > a consensus. In the early '90s when we got our TR3A I was reading the > Bentley's manual and I found the spot where they recommended the non detergent > 30 weight oil. I have several TRs and two of them use the A-Type OD and the > GT6 is, at this time, non OD. I have an OD unit for it in the shop so that is > a future project. When we got the GT6 the previous owner used MT90 and I > realized why. Second gear, if rushed, barks on upshift not on down shift > which, to me, doesn't make sense. Syncros, in my experience always barked on > down shift. Any one that can enlighten me on this? I was just looking for a > "one size fits all" solution. The MT90 works good in the OD so at this time I > guess I'll continue to use it unless there is a compelling reason not to. > Thanks for all the responses and keep them coming! > Sam > > On Nov 26, 2012, at 3:02 PM, Robert Deanes wrote: > >> I also run 30 weight in my A drive recommended by two old TR builders Dave > Crane and John Esposito with no failures since 2007., got to love those old > "A" drives....the fun in the button ...as close as I will get to F1 gear > changing ! Wooo Hooo >> >> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Bud Rolofson wrote: >> I use Valvoline 50w racing oil in my TR6 A-type OD/tran and have for >> 15 years with never an issue. I switched to it as a result of >> recommendations from this great list. >> >> >> Bud Rolofson >> >> 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) >> 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 >> 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) >> 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) >> Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Nov 22, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Sam wrote: >> >>> I'm sure this has been discussed ad neauseum but I would like to >>> know what the >>> consensus is for Red Line lubricants. I am running an A-Type OD in >>> a TR6 and >>> regular tranny in a GT6. Which is suitable? MT90 or MTL? >>> Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving! >>> >>> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi@comcast.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> rob deanes >> TR Racer > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 17:55:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 274A943943 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:55:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail168c2.megamailservers.com (mail168c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8F240EC0; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:34:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.254.56.197] (146.sub-174-252-191.myvzw.com [174.252.191.146]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail168c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id qAR0ZDdF026603 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:35:16 -0500 References: <18A4FAF7-DB37-4453-B59A-DE966EFDE1BD@aol.com> <7FB2D465-E473-4CD3-966B-070AEBD44583@comcast.net> From: John Hasty Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:35:12 -0500 To: Christian Marx a=wkZFi_rvF0oA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=MKfTS82DFkO7ExZ75Cm8jQ==:17 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=HJZVARIo_0r5mPWJ7CQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=MKfTS82DFkO7ExZ75Cm8jQ==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , Sam , "fot@autox.team.net" , "6-pack@autox.team.net" <6-pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Transmission Lube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Chris. Viscosity is not a function of "thickness" Transmission oils must have the ability of resisting the shearing action of the gears, not just thickness. Whether the planetary gears in an A OD require this shearing protection I don't know; but we use transmission lube in ours Sent from my iPhone On Nov 26, 2012, at 6:08 PM, Christian Marx wrote: > As for race cars they are getting glowing hot in a race. Thick oil does > protect the components I guess. > > Cheers > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 18:06:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00371438C1 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:06:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2F14388E for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:49:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.139]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qAR0nnhQ013471; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:49:49 -0500 Received: from core-dle003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dle003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.166.137]) by mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id F146DE00008A; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:49:48 -0500 (EST) References: <583C8C40-9C8A-4F27-B600-8CE7444EC378@comcast.net> To: levilevi@comcast.net, fot@autox.team.net From: Chuck Gee Received: from 64.134.220.19 by webmail-m161.sysops.aol.com (64.12.159.3) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:49:48 -0500 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:49:48 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1353977389; bh=ybRRXmK4ApOrKuLQhSmsddmqDelDLxYBx/Qe3NOZHWs=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=A1p0Sype8QDWUz5htDTG6IXpA+WoNMa3Cf71VTFlRDx4VjGBwBH1qzgBX7rkxQsIP R/l+EuE3BoWzuKt2j8zIKDmZbvJ4Zguq3yftrVYFz2yB0oLe+Al11RYbCM1O/huCV+ rEMrW+ev3q9dNpolvx0+e21QCD328QbQ/pHDvEAY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338b50b40e2c70d9 Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Front Sway Bar? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Maybe Speedway Engineering? -----Original Message----- From: Bud Rolofson To: fot@autox.team.net List Sent: Mon, Nov 26, 2012 10:19 am Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Front Sway Bar? http://s1162.beta.photobucket.com/user/levi3451/library/Spitfire%20Front%20Sw ay%20Bar Can anyone tell me what brand of front sway bar this is? It came on he Spit I bought in September. I've googled for similar ones with no uck. I'm going to have to make some adjustments to it as the front tires ub and one tire (brand new Hoosier) is now shot. I guess that's part f the surprises you get from DPOs. It's been fun sorting out a number f little things getting it ready for next spring but that one was an nwelcome hit. But at least it was found in the shop and not on the rack. All the more reason to go completely through a race car before isking life and limb on someone else's work. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 1 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 6TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 1F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) -50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 18:21:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98641438A2 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:21:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com (imr-db01.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A35743882 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:57:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A028138000090; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:57:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msc003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msc003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.201]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 7769BE000089; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:57:25 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d157.sysops.aol.com (205.188.58.142) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:57:24 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:57:25 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1353977845; bh=rBrGdq39dr2IUzzdMD6PpIEG6GxzLSA/DNtEE0WV6RU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=veVXqzmd82mKuTSjyWYc3HwQFgooDwwIvr+sHOEeup6tMsDbGj+pGIHv/Lg9T0hXZ FN2752Ho7ktrsa4NTtHCnCCEjs4imsvmYmtRT4rh51x3vFyxlDyYkv5SGzpDOPI21u QsOVg4l+rw8y8V8pruXENN0BhEZsSoDXzcLrUDRc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb50b40ff52b53 Subject: [Fot] Christian Marx "MAD MARX" VITON CRANK SEAL AN UPDATE all available again and more Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT: Good news......Christian shipped more seals to the U.S. More good news.....changing suppliers and increasing volume reduced the cost of replacement seals. Further good news.....Christian is now producing the scroll housings from new billet material. So now there is a choice of remanufactured scrolls and brand new scrolls. Centering tools have been produced here in the U.S. and are available. So, if you need this kit or individual parts, they are all available. Remember, this is the 'belt and suspenders' kit, with the superior VITON seal and does not require the grinding of the crank. Thanks to Christian for his thoughtful engineering and diligence in bringing this kit to TR3 and TR4 drivers. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 19:10:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3FD243918 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:10:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73824388E for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:47:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.76]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id UDGZ1k0061eYJf8ABRnij0; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 01:47:42 +0000 Received: from locutus ([75.70.96.161]) by omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id URne1k00M3UuT0T01Rni9o; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 01:47:42 +0000 From: "Jim Gray" To: "'Joe Alexander'" , Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:38:11 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac3MPZlDqNWbXIQSQ/Sng4iqeZAziQAAhi8g Subject: Re: [Fot] Christian Marx "MAD MARX" VITON CRANK SEAL AN UPDATE all available again and more Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I can't remember the last time the cost of anything went down. Thanks Chris & Joe, the seals work great. jim g -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Alexander Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 5:57 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Christian Marx "MAD MARX" VITON CRANK SEAL AN UPDATE all available again and more FOT: Good news......Christian shipped more seals to the U.S. More good news.....changing suppliers and increasing volume reduced the cost of replacement seals. Further good news.....Christian is now producing the scroll housings from new billet material. So now there is a choice of remanufactured scrolls and brand new scrolls. Centering tools have been produced here in the U.S. and are available. So, if you need this kit or individual parts, they are all available. Remember, this is the 'belt and suspenders' kit, with the superior VITON seal and does not require the grinding of the crank. Thanks to Christian for his thoughtful engineering and diligence in bringing this kit to TR3 and TR4 drivers. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 19:24:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB99438D5 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:24:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com (imr-db01.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B73B4388F for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:58:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.200]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 0C63D380000E9; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:59:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msc003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msc003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.201]) by mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id AD0E0E000086; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:59:02 -0500 (EST) To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net, fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d157.sysops.aol.com (205.188.58.142) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:59:02 -0500 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:59:02 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1353981543; bh=rgRVULf+nNMrs0LxeElSIELd5IFwxN97qaa1dvoPHP0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GQr/5cCLZ+o4m7Fg/t3ri7nXYHmUlPDviMJtIJitjMZMVehM2hC1zecbGRWwzwlHv McyCD2p0e0kycu9yI44g1xuumkODNQxScmfJ3KKmzB1UYmIxCbYfuHBbXVcA4GpfMb eXdYcNJm53+qgWMm2EvroE+EakUwSomoW/a2wOfs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c850b41e662606 Subject: Re: [Fot] Christian Marx "MAD MARX" VITON CRANK SEAL AN UPDATE all available again and more Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Not to beat that drum too loudly, but the VITON SEAL project has been largely a pro bono effort to this point. Kas, Chris, et. al. put a lot of thought into this project. There is one chapter in KAS' latest book regarding 'avoiding oil leaks' in the wet liner engines. Worth the price of admission, by itself. KAS KASTNER'S TRIUMPHS Still available for the moment. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Jim Gray To: 'Joe Alexander' ; fot Sent: Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:47 pm Subject: RE: [Fot] Christian Marx "MAD MARX" VITON CRANK SEAL AN UPDATE all available again and more I can't remember the last time the cost of anything went down. Thanks Chris & Joe, the seals work great. jim g -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Alexander Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 5:57 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Christian Marx "MAD MARX" VITON CRANK SEAL AN UPDATE all available again and more FOT: Good news......Christian shipped more seals to the U.S. More good news.....changing suppliers and increasing volume reduced the cost of replacement seals. Further good news.....Christian is now producing the scroll housings from new billet material. So now there is a choice of remanufactured scrolls and brand new scrolls. Centering tools have been produced here in the U.S. and are available. So, if you need this kit or individual parts, they are all available. Remember, this is the 'belt and suspenders' kit, with the superior VITON seal and does not require the grinding of the crank. Thanks to Christian for his thoughtful engineering and diligence in bringing this kit to TR3 and TR4 drivers. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 20:07:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16669438CC for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:07:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D264388D for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:46:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.138]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 838001C0000B9; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:47:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msc003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msc003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.201]) by mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 09DEFE000081; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:47:07 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d157.sysops.aol.com (205.188.58.142) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:47:06 -0500 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:47:06 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1353984427; bh=7KedJBsn+BmhJK8ORuAJG6cBiTbcQisokIDmsHdxzDo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=V7PbjtYJtDM/RFcpzNpmj+Zr8J83rrXjS34qPsmoOWQWcKW8UgRfEAWuOglhMybvz fsUUNzobEL6auMFiIyDxLmqSscebQMSJd0D0GSXcgp3r686kYb5QP9fyfjDbeW4d5U LvBZVT4iKLBqY691p3SGxExIc0XDOLSTx9CA44Ng= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338a50b429ab588f Subject: [Fot] thanks for the John Clancy orders www.triumphdvd.co.uk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT: SUBJECT: The ultimate Kas Kastner Interview By noon tomorrow, I will place another bulk order for California Air and other two other Titles. They should be here in about 10 days. I have a few CALIFORNIA AIR on the shelf, right now. Look at www.triumphdvd.co.uk and let me know of any more wanted. Thanks....... Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 23:45:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC2F43924 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:45:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f41.google.com (mail-la0-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D881E40ED4; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:22:33 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id m15so9025235lah.14 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:22:57 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=9NBcjIxQMsKc9packroUDHbrXX0FBj1riUx5LH+3kH0=; b=zjdVROsAlFnsolkN8ZCiKCYSPbrHTnnxUFpoHRJ/UMbMrOcXJTQgXzsQ7N23y5uxdw 7rPgiTKJxAHxD66942ZSLh9jgkN+LQdHRKpI2rP+XTNNjsWnn2RoT4y95/KuieT/9zfB teNPJEoNHLbJC2hSbRjpSSApovcKX9MZvnHnIGjBUbRHcHOR+XyIdSqv12YPZ8bUBS80 vSqR+4i+2dBjugHDO4QWWf2ELl2mpwHp3nTO2QdqC3G5kOiEGryvUCngbfsMnFp7uKJu g+8+1x5MEztjGlzaZhYrCwTqjVghqKqvcSYC4Rd9a2dAmzeVwvKsrkq/QlW8CMGg5OGv CK+g== Received: by 10.112.25.168 with SMTP id d8mr5688778lbg.62.1353997377713; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:22:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.28.73 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:22:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.28.73 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:22:57 -0800 (PST) References: <18A4FAF7-DB37-4453-B59A-DE966EFDE1BD@aol.com> <7FB2D465-E473-4CD3-966B-070AEBD44583@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:22:57 -0800 From: Christian Marx To: John Hasty Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, Sam , "fot@autox.team.net" , "6-pack@autox.team.net" <6-pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Transmission Lube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Very true John! That's why I use EP GL 4 oil for gear protection and high viscosity for a good lubrication at extreme temperatures. The main disadvantage with engine oil is that it has no foam resistantce. Cheers Chris Am 27.11.2012 01:35 schrieb "John Hasty" : > Chris. Viscosity is not a function of "thickness" Transmission oils must > have the ability of resisting the shearing action of the gears, not just > thickness. Whether the planetary gears in an A OD require this shearing > protection I don't know; but we use transmission lube in ours > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 26, 2012, at 6:08 PM, Christian Marx > wrote: > > > As for race cars they are getting glowing hot in a race. Thick oil does > > protect the components I guess. > > > > Cheers > > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 27 07:22:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC3E43911 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 07:22:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f41.google.com (mail-ee0-f41.google.com [74.125.83.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFFD7438BE for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 06:52:18 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ee0-f41.google.com with SMTP id d41so8539525eek.14 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 05:52:41 -0800 (PST) h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=97YlGo3oURaAc5CsmxnGR9nuY7XC+jxzqqmiVOFK2Uo=; b=j2CMibozeljprUbLWav6F0l+G48gfhI1aTij/7Bs+U7J3JcWhM29h2pPuv2bwnYMr4 YFrb5lX63U+DymL2LHLstmw6tL2SuS9eobZCpRGzr4k/0TEeFfZxjGoYgp6GlsvdJnss +FnBfbd1WgcUNhwOWY28qxd6LwMKq46rdA/mHTxSNjWY0zve8uFefhVp8y8dFApyo2pn JuEdFxrEyTTJkmVmNSSAEunIZfSmCY1cg5I3Wb+X4jLVb466nHHKL+Ph5RyK5ajNYKCH qGJAVntQQswgzRME7ktODkrtxOEooJqiirCE0cOID9WPBTCeMLzORU79TGcmjf2idD48 PkhA== Received: by 10.14.194.4 with SMTP id l4mr9127495een.42.1354024361033; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 05:52:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home ([2.174.8.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y44sm40837493eel.14.2012.11.27.05.52.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 27 Nov 2012 05:52:39 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <8CF9A59E81FDB4E-7EC-1C6DF@webmail-d157.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:51:59 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac3MRnxfjhuqZvvHQ46RtY6+gzLN3QAXzIfg Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Christian Marx "MAD MARX" VITON CRANK SEAL AN UPDATE all available again and more Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The reason for the new housings was much wear of most of the stock parts had over the years of use. I reworked them for a while but 70 percent are worn (from offset mounting) and I returned them without any change. That caused delay for the customer so the way to go was with new parts. New stays true. The best thing, with changing the manufacturer and more parts made the prices dropped a little and the availability is much better now. I can keep a little stock of parts to react faster than before when I made the parts to order. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Joe Alexander Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. November 2012 02:59 An: toodamnfunky@comcast.net; fot@autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Christian Marx "MAD MARX" VITON CRANK SEAL AN UPDATE all available again and more Not to beat that drum too loudly, but the VITON SEAL project has been largely a pro bono effort to this point. Kas, Chris, et. al. put a lot of thought into this project. There is one chapter in KAS' latest book regarding 'avoiding oil leaks' in the wet liner engines. Worth the price of admission, by itself. KAS KASTNER'S TRIUMPHS Still available for the moment. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Jim Gray To: 'Joe Alexander' ; fot Sent: Mon, Nov 26, 2012 7:47 pm Subject: RE: [Fot] Christian Marx "MAD MARX" VITON CRANK SEAL AN UPDATE all available again and more I can't remember the last time the cost of anything went down. Thanks Chris & Joe, the seals work great. jim g -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Alexander Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 5:57 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Christian Marx "MAD MARX" VITON CRANK SEAL AN UPDATE all available again and more FOT: Good news......Christian shipped more seals to the U.S. More good news.....changing suppliers and increasing volume reduced the cost of replacement seals. Further good news.....Christian is now producing the scroll housings from new billet material. So now there is a choice of remanufactured scrolls and brand new scrolls. Centering tools have been produced here in the U.S. and are available. So, if you need this kit or individual parts, they are all available. Remember, this is the 'belt and suspenders' kit, with the superior VITON seal and does not require the grinding of the crank. Thanks to Christian for his thoughtful engineering and diligence in bringing this kit to TR3 and TR4 drivers. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 27 13:14:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61EC54389C for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 13:14:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s5.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s5.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF934388F for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 12:54:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU154-W14 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s5.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 27 Nov 2012 11:54:28 -0800 From: Charles WATSON To: FOT List Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:54:28 -0500 FILETIME=[0289D790:01CDCCD9] Subject: [Fot] Fuel Cell Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Planning for the fuel cell in my GT6. I've read the archives but still a few questions: - Is the soft rubber bladder safer than the hard plastic? - I've seen installations where the cell is installed halfway below the floor, exposing it to the elements, etc. Is this purely for weight distribtion, safety, or what? - Everyone seems to like ATL or Fuel Safe. Anything else to consider? - Why can/can't I use the stock gas cap location as a remote filler location? Don't recall seeing this done on a GT6. Thanks in advance from South Carolina.... Thanks, Chuck Watson Mellow Mushroom Pizza Bakers Columbia, Greenville, Spartanburg & Lexington, SC _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 27 13:33:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B12F243918 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 13:33:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm18-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm18-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D2F43891 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 13:15:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.104] by nm18.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2012 20:15:52 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.244] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2012 20:15:51 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp115.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2012 20:15:51 -0000 CD9Ql8qTFFrdGlbjSB0gksk7.1xvucQOr2XesOIjMd61BFvpIJVb7RWzNXmf N6bAW_h6YOe6TAD.sDRCR8sHRupTW5ZbXSFBmNjDo3JONvZxtUatUC8ZmxkJ BeFiCpI2yJ7saE0NJtJE_0o7dCaWMFbSA6UWNipJw_7ECbCZ4qKJ8ipGYNNR wHqIGpJOTZdox5O698wEEflCHKfp9jmWVH9g6DErXWnpRdN.4aExl0doohnm EUUPS4FBKUk6SrKTYjGw9gyE5U7tJ4sDbRgydbSY3jarkqH.G3qcnPFgpWwG QKkOSKRWrQhy4cSjuSt9_Pt3s2uFf9biVo2DOr_nT69_xWblglH2LYJU6IYb SPQ_ZrTD90luNc_iV16uyRcyjazBjAvBdPN3aHTSc19ahJa.QT.2t4ADEgW. 4QnwmsCMREwG0qIn84mP.gqv_o9dHPdqVCiC6xSSW.bB4LYw8pX0XNwQYEQb ZAa9em0MHiLXsLwRApNn1G2AwE19o Received: from [192.168.1.77] (cartravel@99.98.59.54 with plain) by smtp115.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Nov 2012 12:15:51 -0800 PST Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:15:55 -0600 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <18A4FAF7-DB37-4453-B59A-DE966EFDE1BD@aol.com> <7FB2D465-E473-4CD3-966B-070AEBD44583@comcast.net> <000301cdcc28$8ed515e0$ac7f41a0$@rr.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Transmission Lube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Engine oils and gear oils or measured on a different temperature basis. Engine oils at 212 and gear oils or at 150 I believe. So, SAE 30 engine oil will have much higher viscosity at 150 degrees, You'd have to know the viscosity index information to compare them directly. Larry On 11/26/2012 4:53 PM, Christian Marx wrote: > On every race event. I don't drive in snow with that car. > Am 26.11.2012 23:51 schrieb "Spitfire Racing" > : >> I presume you don't run that in cold weather. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On >> Behalf Of Christian Marx >> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:58 PM >> To: Robert Deanes >> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net; Sam; fot@autox.team.net; >> 6-pack@autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Transmission Lube >> >> I run EP 140 gearbox oil with OD. >> >> Cheers >> Chris >> Am 26.11.2012 22:29 schrieb "Robert Deanes" : >> >>> I also run 30 weight in my A drive recommended by two old TR builders >>> Dave Crane and John Esposito with no failures since 2007., got to love >>> those old "A" drives....the fun in the button ...as close as I will get >> to >> F1 >>> gear changing ! Wooo Hooo >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Bud Rolofson >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I use Valvoline 50w racing oil in my TR6 A-type OD/tran and have for >>>> 15 years with never an issue. I switched to it as a result of >>>> recommendations from this great list. >>>> >>>> >>>> Bud Rolofson >>>> >>>> 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) >>>> 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 >>>> 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) >>>> 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly >>>> Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 22, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Sam wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm sure this has been discussed ad neauseum but I would like to >>>>> know what the consensus is for Red Line lubricants. I am running >>>>> an A-Type OD in a TR6 and regular tranny in a GT6. Which is >>>>> suitable? MT90 or MTL? >>>>> Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving! >>>>> >>>>> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >>>>> >>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi@comcast.net >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> rob deanes >>> TR Racer >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel@pobox.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 27 13:59:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C554389C for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 13:59:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.55.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id ADC7C43873 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 13:35:39 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 17958 invoked by uid 0); 27 Nov 2012 20:35:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO just64.justhost.com) (173.254.28.64) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 27 Nov 2012 20:35:59 -0000 Received: from [173.22.113.197] (port=52676 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TdRst-0002P2-HK; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 13:35:59 -0700 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:35:56 -0600 To: Charles WATSON ,FOT List From: Tony Drews References: {sentby:smtp auth 173.22.113.197 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Cell Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Dropping it below the trunk floor is done for weight distribution. I THINK the soft rubber is safer than the hard plastic, but am less confident in that answer. The stock gas cap opens too easily so needs to be wired shut if used. If you connect to a remote fill, you need to use fire and impact resistant plumbing. There's a video of a Miata (I think) going up in flames because the fill line for the fuel tank broke / melted. Very scary. It's best to just use the cap on top of the tank and avoid any possible issues with impact / fire related to a remote fill. Tony At 01:54 PM 11/27/2012, Charles WATSON wrote: >Planning for the fuel cell in my GT6. I've read the archives but still a few >questions: > >- Is the soft rubber bladder safer than the hard plastic? >- I've seen installations where the cell is installed halfway below the floor, >exposing it to the elements, etc. Is this purely for weight distribtion, >safety, or what? >- Everyone seems to like ATL or Fuel Safe. Anything else to consider? >- Why can/can't I use the stock gas cap location as a remote filler location? >Don't recall seeing this done on a GT6. > >Thanks in advance from South Carolina.... > >Thanks, > >Chuck Watson > > >Mellow Mushroom Pizza Bakers >Columbia, Greenville, Spartanburg & Lexington, SC >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 27 14:00:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA58B4396B for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:00:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DDB43873 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 13:38:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20121127203824.DNXK10448.mta21.charter.net@imp10>; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:38:24 -0500 Received: from [10.0.1.6] ([68.112.108.51]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id UkeP1k00q16aBHQ05kePt9; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:38:24 -0500 cv=set3ANRjRCPXVE/jtaJxOKJrtEYPXxXKq56iIP4dO9Y= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=2hRZoSXNx8WLTyjzW0iEpQ==:17 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=PWkQa5kjhHmdxqGFB-YA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=2hRZoSXNx8WLTyjzW0iEpQ==:117 From: Jerry Barr Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:38:23 -0600 References: To: Charles WATSON Cc: "fot@autox.team.net friends" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Cell Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I would rather have a tightly sealed fuel cell instead of having gasoline being able to exit out of that wimpy but beautiful spring loaded cap. I still have mine on the gT6 even though there is nothing attached to it. I do not think most sanctioning bodies would allow you to use it anyway. On Nov 27, 2012, at 1:54 PM, Charles WATSON wrote: > Planning for the fuel cell in my GT6. I've read the archives but still a few > questions: > > - Is the soft rubber bladder safer than the hard plastic? > - I've seen installations where the cell is installed halfway below the floor, > exposing it to the elements, etc. Is this purely for weight distribtion, > safety, or what? > - Everyone seems to like ATL or Fuel Safe. Anything else to consider? > - Why can/can't I use the stock gas cap location as a remote filler location? > Don't recall seeing this done on a GT6. > > Thanks in advance from South Carolina.... > > Thanks, > > Chuck Watson > > > Mellow Mushroom Pizza Bakers > Columbia, Greenville, Spartanburg & Lexington, SC > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerrybarr@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 27 14:59:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC62B4394B for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:59:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp010.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp010.mac.com [17.158.236.119]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFF940ECE for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:33:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.164.228.126] (mobile-166-137-082-049.mycingular.net [166.137.82.49]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp010.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0ME600KPN17VTBB0@nk11p04mm-asmtp010.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 21:33:39 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8185,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-11-27_05:2012-11-27,2012-11-27,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1211270240 References: From: Scott Janzen Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 16:33:29 -0500 To: Charles WATSON Cc: FOT List Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Cell Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I personally like the all aluminum Fuel Safe cell in my GT6 better than the steel ATL in my Tr4. Just replaced the ATL because, in part, the box had rusted. Better fitting cap on the FS too. I recall that SVRA regs don't allow the use of the remote filler on the GT6 but you have to keep it for appearance' sake. Sent from my mobile device On Nov 27, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Charles WATSON wrote: > Planning for the fuel cell in my GT6. I've read the archives but still a few > questions: > > - Is the soft rubber bladder safer than the hard plastic? > - I've seen installations where the cell is installed halfway below the floor, > exposing it to the elements, etc. Is this purely for weight distribtion, > safety, or what? > - Everyone seems to like ATL or Fuel Safe. Anything else to consider? > - Why can/can't I use the stock gas cap location as a remote filler location? > Don't recall seeing this done on a GT6. > > Thanks in advance from South Carolina.... > > Thanks, > > Chuck Watson > > > Mellow Mushroom Pizza Bakers > Columbia, Greenville, Spartanburg & Lexington, SC > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 27 20:41:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 367C9438FE for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 20:41:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493D2438D6 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 20:36:03 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=nthByf8XA7rVMhvAxw7MCPfP3C8VzWOEHxjxgEb5FAqNPVVC+4LfvDBWDg4WL4eg; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.32] (helo=elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TdYRj-00041p-Mb for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 22:36:23 -0500 Received: from 108.64.186.7 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 22:36:23 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:36:23 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: steve To: FOT List Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Cell Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have the ATL "Sports Series" and bought a few upgrades including the aluminum box and the fancy dipstick. Don't get the dipstick. It's black hard plastic and when you pull it out, the fuel has already evaporated and you can't see the level! I would suggest an 8 gallon tank so that you have a little room in the trunk around the tank. In my TR3, the spare tire compartment was cut out to allow the cell to sit down in there, nice and low. One of the fittings on the top of the cell is for a vent tube. The tubing should arc up and then down to the underside of the car so that it can suck air to replace the fuel that is being consumed. If the car were to roll, this tube would then be right-side up and not pour gas. I am happy with the ATL and the folks there were helpful over the phone. Another good recommendation, while you have the tank out, is to weld in a little "intrusion bar" to protect the tank in case you get hit from behind. ~Steve -----Original Message----- >From: Scott Janzen >Sent: Nov 27, 2012 1:33 PM >To: Charles WATSON >Cc: FOT List >Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Cell Questions > >I personally like the all aluminum Fuel Safe cell in my GT6 better than the steel ATL in my Tr4. Just replaced the ATL because, in part, the box had rusted. Better fitting cap on the FS too. I recall that SVRA regs don't allow the use of the remote filler on the GT6 but you have to keep it for appearance' sake. > >Sent from my mobile device > >On Nov 27, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Charles WATSON wrote: > >> Planning for the fuel cell in my GT6. I've read the archives but still a few >> questions: >> >> - Is the soft rubber bladder safer than the hard plastic? >> - I've seen installations where the cell is installed halfway below the floor, >> exposing it to the elements, etc. Is this purely for weight distribtion, >> safety, or what? >> - Everyone seems to like ATL or Fuel Safe. Anything else to consider? >> - Why can/can't I use the stock gas cap location as a remote filler location? >> Don't recall seeing this done on a GT6. >> >> Thanks in advance from South Carolina.... >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chuck Watson >> >> >> Mellow Mushroom Pizza Bakers >> Columbia, Greenville, Spartanburg & Lexington, SC >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 27 21:27:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4726E438F6 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 21:27:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (imr-mb01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.164]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA2F438D6 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 21:24:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.73]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 657B51C0000FE; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 23:25:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dla001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dla001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.180.129]) by mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id AA6CDE00008C; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 23:25:01 -0500 (EST) From: Catpusher@aol.com Full-name: Catpusher Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 23:25:01 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1354076702; bh=g/lcYgIDkVCh9aAoRU5NnRTUJ7xhbrYlbBhKAclZTiU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rLD+IrtxwezjbntQgidsw/qyyjWH/jJua9i6P6w0i6H0ErBV6pwOq/hH+55ke34c5 H4/P7XBP1zmsVbW6cyQ3mM+Ras8Z1LhweN9p3FrFqymoWOGkweRs/LrYEj3KDhXrTf esI68JC5Xx4wv9ujiHqNCAt23SLa+tV1mWGJg6Dc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294950b5921d7a77 Subject: Re: [Fot] Subject: Sad News Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net He was quite a fine fellow and will be missed. I learned many things from him when his office was in the Brisbane, CA BL Depot and I visited frequently. Hardy From: Kas Kastner To: fot Subject: [Fot] Sad News James Anthony Coan passed away Sunday in Los Angeles. Jimmy had been quit ill for several years. Jim was my right hand man for years and years, then upon my retirement, the Competition Manager for Triumph. Hard working, smart and a neat guy, my old pal Jim. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 28 07:02:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E022943916 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 07:02:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A28438DC for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 07:02:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.8]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qASE2l8E011193 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 09:02:47 -0500 Received: from core-msc004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msc004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.205]) by mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id B2D91E00008B for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 09:02:47 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m129.sysops.aol.com (149.174.9.20) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 28 Nov 2012 09:02:47 -0500 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 09:02:47 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1354111367; bh=aYGRuaLLvvQ/LaJynD1YNwmu04eg6zpg0fkmsYV4+nk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=U5PYFldOkUskBwoykQ/KusfKKiKJfBPCiJsSLj9sy+/poTNVPbU1uh1clZM+KzptX BMhSCUGVo041IF5pNl5kLIGDNcDRexmzh60NaD5Kqyts/ciFpHDv225M9URafqHXN2 Ku8FcmpeejYlrAFybGntKurcA3RjZfuaVN/mJd9E= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290850b619872a5a Subject: [Fot] RESERVATIONS AT THE OSTHOFF -- KASTNER CUP 2013 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT: Reservations are going well at the Osthoff. For you that asked about reserving rooms on line at the www.osthoff.com website: Code is "FRIEND" Otherwise, mention "FRIENDS OF TRIUMPH" when calling in, to get your discounted rooms and suites. Make your reservations early...they will work with us to add rooms beyond the current FOT contract, but no guarantee that what you want will be available. The smart money is on 2 and 3 bedroom suites by getting friends together and sharing the costs. Amenities abound with the suites. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 28 08:00:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2655F43946 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 08:00:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (imr-mb02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE84F438FC for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 08:00:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.137]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1ADFA3800026F; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 10:00:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msc004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msc004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.205]) by mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 8657DE000086; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 10:00:55 -0500 (EST) References: <8CF9B882DF79D85-1E00-24E10@webmail-m129.sysops.aol.com> <09AE8584-6335-4F60-AA18-F79460D5E835@me.com> To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m129.sysops.aol.com (149.174.9.20) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 28 Nov 2012 10:00:55 -0500 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 10:00:55 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1354114856; bh=JhVCcettkHCu5CtL906X5XA/rDdN5yP/sAu16kae2kM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wMveHnCVqiLfHYYeuDMP3YdfA5EL8wyoJQnj31h89LHZZ8qVWB2lYI8gOOU94CdHU FUH6iRQb1QT76IXjcTfNObbcXq4F0hLPHZRN5kz5nyroZ9gUcGoBk57gX0zdde/4Wd /zs33p6ei4y0tEd4VHAwKuctC6m1Agw6gOA1hyCM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338950b6272730ab Subject: [Fot] FAQ KCUP 2013 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net For information: vscda.com roadamerica.com osthoff.com fot-racing.com the FOT website will be updated in the future. Once again, all Triumphs and TRIUMPH POWERED racecars will be considered as entrants....just ask. But treaded tires only. You can make initial REQUEST FOR ENTRY to me. Not all cars will be eligible for the KASTNER CUP. -----Original Message----- From: Scott Janzen To: Joe Alexander Sent: Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:18 am Subject: Re: [Fot] RESERVATIONS AT THE OSTHOFF -- KASTNER CUP 2013 the FOT site is out of date as to when/where the 2013 event is. What's the date? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 28 09:33:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0039243931 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 09:33:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f169.google.com (mail-ia0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A98438FA for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 09:30:48 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ia0-f169.google.com with SMTP id r4so12378814iaj.14 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 08:31:06 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=u0lbkVRNHE3xxFzERTxQAbRdZ6s2Q8AKAMYqCpTgA/Q=; b=ogGon1Ek6xTx18WVdS1unsEdr2c6zabe2QnPoOEw8r50e0hPTRRqcH23uy/l4c0pam Kui5HURJ/JyDDidiIeu5hJ1stY6jHCufjKwWMROSnG2WkgtKKR6cpItYD0zQezGntXwE sFh1U1x+RKCwFQVQfNnEOO/KIbBUEKi2GAYdFEvqX16D65EIC/YAgsL9YXXa/L5uDYdD 2p8tY8yHxLqZosETmENgNiT91NrTXUEYUfvvV1/AahCpshZ8muGdY+w5QfFUeCSnav76 2JEc2WOxXu6mdTGBy78Q/FE8ocgDtnUdmdDsqbzAlzdyG2KiV98NNMwFomosNL0RSfvN rNLg== Received: by 10.50.13.138 with SMTP id h10mr22503390igc.55.1354120266534; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 08:31:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.91.195 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 08:31:06 -0800 (PST) References: <8CF9B882DF79D85-1E00-24E10@webmail-m129.sysops.aol.com> <09AE8584-6335-4F60-AA18-F79460D5E835@me.com> <8CF9B904CE2FC05-1E00-253FB@webmail-m129.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 08:31:06 -0800 From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" To: Joe Alexander Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] FAQ KCUP 2013 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net correction on vscda. It is .org not .com On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > For information: > > vscda.com > roadamerica.com > osthoff.com > fot-racing.com > > the FOT website will be updated in the future. > > Once again, all Triumphs and TRIUMPH POWERED racecars will be considered as > entrants....just ask. But treaded tires only. > > You can make initial REQUEST FOR ENTRY to me. Not all cars will be eligible > for the KASTNER CUP. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Janzen > To: Joe Alexander > Sent: Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:18 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] RESERVATIONS AT THE OSTHOFF -- KASTNER CUP 2013 > > > the FOT site is out of date as to when/where the 2013 event is. What's the > date? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com > > > -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 28 09:49:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6494392B for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 09:49:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85DE8438FA for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 09:40:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qASGeRZR030489 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:40:27 -0500 Received: from core-msc004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msc004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.205]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 668C6E00008B for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:40:27 -0500 (EST) From: N197TR4@cs.com Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:40:27 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1354120827; bh=5zi0AHCK+b4AavwJs46p9zDJe3Q0LEA0dkgmhbvNdGw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=s8XYXVAg4j6fPBdtfqAftKnyb1zxDrM/JzKaxqFXmdi3ey0DViMhpqFAo2oamq3wp OIOxFonTzyFH/ON+UWcdrpko0k2+XMbu7lQUndfvjWF7GiCmsAVRSWQYMLYlTr+0Oi tRoAdBV0cy2f90facOIl5RRUvlZyWvMgy9jgndgY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c50b63e7b031a Subject: [Fot] Fwd: FAQ KCUP 2013-----correction vscda.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > correction on vscda. > > It is .org not .com > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------------ > Exactly....thanks for the correction, Mr. Arnold. & Mr. Korey Return-Path: Received: from mail-ia0-f169.google.com (mail-ia0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by mtain-mg12.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id B3A70380000BA for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:31:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-ia0-f169.google.com with SMTP id r4so12378036iaj.14 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 08:31:06 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=u0lbkVRNHE3xxFzERTxQAbRdZ6s2Q8AKAMYqCpTgA/Q=; b=ogGon1Ek6xTx18WVdS1unsEdr2c6zabe2QnPoOEw8r50e0hPTRRqcH23uy/l4c0pam Kui5HURJ/JyDDidiIeu5hJ1stY6jHCufjKwWMROSnG2WkgtKKR6cpItYD0zQezGntXwE sFh1U1x+RKCwFQVQfNnEOO/KIbBUEKi2GAYdFEvqX16D65EIC/YAgsL9YXXa/L5uDYdD 2p8tY8yHxLqZosETmENgNiT91NrTXUEYUfvvV1/AahCpshZ8muGdY+w5QfFUeCSnav76 2JEc2WOxXu6mdTGBy78Q/FE8ocgDtnUdmdDsqbzAlzdyG2KiV98NNMwFomosNL0RSfvN rNLg== Received: by 10.50.13.138 with SMTP id h10mr22503390igc.55.1354120266534; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 08:31:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.91.195 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 08:31:06 -0800 (PST) References: <8CF9B882DF79D85-1E00-24E10@webmail-m129.sysops.aol.com> <09AE8584-6335-4F60-AA18-F79460D5E835@me.com> <8CF9B904CE2FC05-1E00-253FB@webmail-m129.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 08:31:06 -0800 Subject: Re: [Fot] FAQ KCUP 2013 From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" To: Joe Alexander Cc: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60d450b63c4a6d71 correction on vscda. It is .org not .com On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > For information: > > vscda.com > roadamerica.com > osthoff.com > fot-racing.com > > the FOT website will be updated in the future. > > Once again, all Triumphs and TRIUMPH POWERED racecars will be considered as > entrants....just ask. But treaded tires only. > > You can make initial REQUEST FOR ENTRY to me. Not all cars will be eligible > for the KASTNER CUP. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Janzen > To: Joe Alexander > Sent: Wed, Nov 28, 2012 8:18 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] RESERVATIONS AT THE OSTHOFF -- KASTNER CUP 2013 > > > the FOT site is out of date as to when/where the 2013 event is. What's the > date? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com > > > -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 28 11:09:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A924393F for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:09:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm26-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm26-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82263435C0 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:09:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.192] by nm26.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Nov 2012 18:09:53 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.212] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Nov 2012 18:09:53 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp101.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Nov 2012 18:09:53 -0000 iwOLZwOzTtccJicaTwjXwTZdrnRW68hA8QMTGmotSEkaMQeIOUKUtzyxbI4F 2RPWfAu2YxC1tmg8jUcuBT06SpB1GFnh_ZgGI0LymQ_sGYUTsSPVTFFZF4Hz JE9fPBBjA4qW_MXR9Dk_7XhcnMNFNDf8xu04OkYRImS3fcRAchSUOXevCxOA ioO1s7HxRNnhFcNs78s2bRgQTdN7nwgMi8lumHjfFGrcvoHW8UJbxLwfNVR7 75hLZGblIUUXXGCvF71YVqC7JVSjOCFVLQOamGZxNUUx0w13vWwtECLFRmFK 2GppLU.XPV8xS.paOD6ajiHauBiEkwDqXKjb1CFppt4QpsVCakH3jZMZAkny 2dTrV1CYOSQub50GUZCRiLQIfXoWia7csUhBq27jYTxdWYnddMQ1aVhJh20g mcmT5hxSYgeoE7yd.NFt6O00s0sHANI0pSQ-- Received: from rocky (rocky@108.200.163.105 with login) by smtp101.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 2012 10:09:53 -0800 PST From: "Rocky Entriken" To: "FOT List" Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 12:09:59 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Fuel Cell Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hey, Hey, I got the dipstick too and I love it! And it gets hot in Kansas too. Yes, on some days the fuel evaporates quickly, so look quicker. :-) Okay, so sometimes I check it 2-3 times to be confident I have a good reading. Still beats guessing. I got the 8-gal Sport Cell too, for my Spitfire. I had ATL put the dipstick hole in the aluminum box. Only problem was, they didn't put a hole in the foam inside, so when I got it I had to dismantle it, pull the foam out, and make a hole. LOL Not like that was any big deal. And I'll second the notion that the ATL folks were very helpful. I found if you take a blade and score the dipstick in about 1" increments, each inch is just about a gallon. I also got mine with double duckfoot pickups inside the cell, one goes to each rear corner and each feeds its own fuel pump (Holley Red, which then go to a tee, and then the line to the carbs). Never a problem with fuel starvation in the turns. Holley Red pumps about 7 psi, I have a Holley regulator up front to cut the flow to 2.5 psi to the carbs. I have a no-tools test port tight by the tee. And yes, I also put the vent tube in the same way Steve described. One thing I learned is don't put 8 gallons in the 8-gallon cell. It'll overflow out that vent tube and sometimes corner workers get all excited that you're "leaking." To forestall that somewhat I also created a "fuel surge attenuator" to attach to the vent tube -- I cut a finger off a cloth work glove and wired it to the end of the tube. :-D A seven gallon fill will get you as far as you need to go. I had my favorite body shop create me a cradle out of angle iron to mount it. It hangs from the inner side plates since it's cut through the floor, and a tailpipe bracket is welded to the bottom of the cradle (no it doesn't get hot). --Rocky Entriken ----- Original Message ----- From: "steve" To: "FOT List" Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Cell Questions >I have the ATL "Sports Series" and bought a few upgrades including the >aluminum box and the fancy dipstick. Don't get the dipstick. It's black >hard plastic and when you pull it out, the fuel has already evaporated and >you can't see the level! I would suggest an 8 gallon tank so that you have >a little room in the trunk around the tank. In my TR3, the spare tire >compartment was cut out to allow the cell to sit down in there, nice and >low. > > One of the fittings on the top of the cell is for a vent tube. The tubing > should arc up and then down to the underside of the car so that it can > suck air to replace the fuel that is being consumed. If the car were to > roll, this tube would then be right-side up and not pour gas. > > I am happy with the ATL and the folks there were helpful over the phone. > > Another good recommendation, while you have the tank out, is to weld in a > little "intrusion bar" to protect the tank in case you get hit from > behind. > > ~Steve _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 28 13:24:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A6FF4392F for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 13:24:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from e9.ny.us.ibm.com (e9.ny.us.ibm.com [32.97.182.139]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80B043911 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 13:22:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from /spool/local by e9.ny.us.ibm.com with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! 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For a fuel gauge I have a large Home Depot paint stirrer, properly marked (line at Full, I can guess the rest). Picture here http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/harmug/fuel%20cell/PA050001.jpg G. Michael Harmuth 63 spit _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 28 13:58:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E91B243964 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 13:58:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail201c2.megamailservers.com (mail201c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3875143913 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 13:58:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) by mail201c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id qASKwWHE002425; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 15:58:38 -0500 From: "john hasty" To: "'George Harmuth'" , References: Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 15:58:30 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac3Npnji4sOfySV1TZm9PPyJ29lxhwABJ0tA a=0X_oLHTSQPIA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=Y4smDxfCAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=hQlAAaLrETMRB4VyvUkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=TkgCpc6hy3YlN3x5:21 a=76SckLDnB9pAdWCH:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 72, Issue 42 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We use an old broom stick John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of George Harmuth Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 3:23 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 72, Issue 42 I use the ATL 8 gal in my Spit with a cage around it. For a fuel gauge I have a large Home Depot paint stirrer, properly marked (line at Full, I can guess the rest). Picture here http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/harmug/fuel%20cell/PA050001.jpg G. Michael Harmuth 63 spit _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 28 14:12:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3294396E for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:12:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s32.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s32.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.107]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070854391D for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:12:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU154-W26 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s32.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 28 Nov 2012 13:12:51 -0800 From: Charles WATSON To: FOT List Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 16:12:51 -0500 References: , FILETIME=[2030AE70:01CDCDAD] Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 72, Issue 42 - Fuel Cell Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks to everyone for all the fuel cell pointers. I went with a 10 gallon unit from ATL as the weight difference was not all that much more than the 8 gal. but the shape kept it close to the center of the car. It has the dual duck-flap intakes and I opted for the aluminum body as it will be exposed to the elements. Both the hard rubber bladder and the fabric bladder meet the same FIA specs and the tech guy at ATL did not recommend one over the other based on safety alone. The differences are primarily fuel capability and weight for that choice. Best price I found was racerpartswholesale, but if a steel unit was wanted, the 24hoursoflemons site was by far the best. Thanks, Chuck Watson > To: fot@autox.team.net > From: harmug@us.ibm.com > Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 15:23:01 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 72, Issue 42 > > I use the ATL 8 gal in my Spit with a cage around it. For a fuel gauge I > have a large Home Depot paint stirrer, properly marked (line at Full, I can > guess the rest). > > Picture here > http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/harmug/fuel%20cell/PA050001.jpg > > G. Michael Harmuth > 63 spit > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/clw2000@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 28 14:26:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E5543988 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:26:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc1-s27.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc1-s27.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88F443920 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:21:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT401-EAS229 ([65.55.90.8]) by snt0-omc1-s27.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 28 Nov 2012 13:21:54 -0800 References: <8E74A33A75724FC2AE56BD5153291DAC@gdhs.local> From: Vince G Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 16:21:53 -0500 To: john hasty FILETIME=[63AEDC20:01CDCDAE] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" , George Harmuth Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 72, Issue 42 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I use the 8gal ATL SPORTSMAN Cell, no remote fuel setup and a notched dowel as a level dip stick Sent from my iPhone On 2012-11-28, at 3:59 PM, "john hasty" wrote: > We use an old broom stick > > > John H. Hasty > Attorney At Law > Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. > 719 East Boulevard > Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 > Tele: (704) 372-5600 > Fax: (704) 372-4601 > E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com > www.gdhs.com > > PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is > intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that > is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. > If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message > and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. > > IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations > regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, > any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) > is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of > (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, > marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter > addressed herein. > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of George Harmuth > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 3:23 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 72, Issue 42 > > I use the ATL 8 gal in my Spit with a cage around it. For a fuel gauge I > have a large Home Depot paint stirrer, properly marked (line at Full, I can > guess the rest). > > Picture here > http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/harmug/fuel%20cell/PA050001.jpg > > G. Michael Harmuth > 63 spit > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 28 15:59:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F38A439A2 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 15:59:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5293D43923 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 15:57:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from wm7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (wm7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.10.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0ME700BSTZSC9W40@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 17:57:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from [67.83.138.75] by webtop.webmail.optimum.net with HTTP; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 17:57:48 -0500 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 17:57:48 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Redmond To: vangoughv@hotmail.com User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" , harmug@us.ibm.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 72, Issue 42 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net To All: Reading all of the responses got me thinking. Which location is better to mount the fuel cell and why; 1. Low in the trunk/spare wheel well for the center of gravity but causing some what of a pendelum effect by having extra weight hanging out the back 2. A little higher, over the rear axle toward the center of the car Thanks Todd Redmond '58 TR3A On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Vince G wrote: > I use the 8gal ATL SPORTSMAN Cell, no remote fuel setup and a notched > dowel as > a level dip stick > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2012-11-28, at 3:59 PM, "john hasty" wrote: > >> We use an old broom stick >> >> >> John H. Hasty >> Attorney At Law >> Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. >> 719 East Boulevard >> Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 >> Tele: (704) 372-5600 >> Fax: (704) 372-4601 >> E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com >> www.gdhs.com >> >> PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any >> attachments) > is >> intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain >> information that >> is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK >> PRODUCT. >> If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that >> any >> dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you >> have >> received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the > message >> and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. >> >> IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS >> regulations >> regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated > otherwise, >> any tax advice contained in this communication (including any >> attachments) >> is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for >> purposes of >> (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) >> promoting, >> marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter >> addressed herein. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] >> On >> Behalf Of George Harmuth >> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 3:23 PM >> To: fot@autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 72, Issue 42 >> >> I use the ATL 8 gal in my Spit with a cage around it. For a fuel >> gauge I >> have a large Home Depot paint stirrer, properly marked (line at Full, >> I can >> guess the rest). >> >> Picture here >> http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/harmug/fuel%20cell/PA050001.jpg >> >> G. Michael Harmuth >> 63 spit >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 28 16:30:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F7B439CA for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 16:30:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (fed1rmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6B340EBB for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 16:24:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from fed1rmimpo305 ([68.230.241.173]) by fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20121128232433.ZGYD32719.fed1rmfepo102.cox.net@fed1rmimpo305> for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:24:33 -0500 Received: from Vista ([68.110.89.224]) by fed1rmimpo305 with cox id VBQX1k00z4qRjhw01BQXVB; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:24:32 -0500 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:17 a=0X_oLHTSQPIA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=hl59Nsad7yIA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=VnNF1IyMAAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=Y4smDxfCAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=xRfjoxBpAAAA:8 a=Zr_ppizPtm1-N3KLR6AA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=bgAgzZxQv2QA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=jNYsMeO9Uc5pv3aO:21 a=8GTj9n7rxl_b32tw:21 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: "'Todd Redmond'" , References: <2d81f9df.7e7e8.13b493d8d89.Webtop.13@optonline.net> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 16:24:45 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac3NvBvx8OH737U9QIOhtsR9pmLLQQAAylCQ Cc: "'FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net'" , harmug@us.ibm.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 72, Issue 42 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Make sure that the fuel outlet is at the back rather than one of the sides. Fuel sloshed to one side during a hard turn in a lower fuel condition will cause fuel starvation. (Ask how I know this!) Joe C. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Todd Redmond Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 3:58 PM To: vangoughv@hotmail.com Cc: FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net; harmug@us.ibm.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 72, Issue 42 To All: Reading all of the responses got me thinking. Which location is better to mount the fuel cell and why; 1. Low in the trunk/spare wheel well for the center of gravity but causing some what of a pendelum effect by having extra weight hanging out the back 2. A little higher, over the rear axle toward the center of the car Thanks Todd Redmond '58 TR3A On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Vince G wrote: > I use the 8gal ATL SPORTSMAN Cell, no remote fuel setup and a notched > dowel as > a level dip stick > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2012-11-28, at 3:59 PM, "john hasty" wrote: > >> We use an old broom stick >> >> >> John H. Hasty >> Attorney At Law >> Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. >> 719 East Boulevard >> Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 >> Tele: (704) 372-5600 >> Fax: (704) 372-4601 >> E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com >> www.gdhs.com >> >> PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any >> attachments) > is >> intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain >> information that >> is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK >> PRODUCT. >> If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that >> any >> dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you >> have >> received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the > message >> and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. >> >> IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS >> regulations >> regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated > otherwise, >> any tax advice contained in this communication (including any >> attachments) >> is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for >> purposes of >> (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) >> promoting, >> marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter >> addressed herein. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] >> On >> Behalf Of George Harmuth >> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 3:23 PM >> To: fot@autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 72, Issue 42 >> >> I use the ATL 8 gal in my Spit with a cage around it. For a fuel >> gauge I >> have a large Home Depot paint stirrer, properly marked (line at Full, >> I can >> guess the rest). >> >> Picture here >> http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/harmug/fuel%20cell/PA050001.jpg >> >> G. Michael Harmuth >> 63 spit >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 28 17:47:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62AD43983 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 17:47:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f169.google.com (mail-qc0-f169.google.com [209.85.216.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C9C4385A for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 17:39:29 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id t2so12857643qcq.14 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 16:39:45 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=qtlEena1Xc8d7fy9DbMXNACvcDbwxHtdnPrYSdbiRfM=; b=Ng22aUeebP+RwvT6P4G5o458U7b0LCY7Hh52+UJsdyFJRAev4MXkyjT3I3j3HDc8ox 4WMwrCITvCpjkNBwne6XnLDYua+r0aPLNkrPbGFGKiUuke8YoP7fqdylcPHmur3suni9 iI8RfHeUaAZuqtAf9nYwjf8eMhQ+kf9OZ6C1eqjMMHTiq2sYww7Ls3qrtCjZfOTsOjbg pFqU3+RHIHJVjQ82Gp5Fr0zZOiLjeI0HrRwAWOuevErSVUFMH5c8NYAHrpkXV01QBcwp NgFLckBjHbRF6JXwutnk6GjJbKTY0nzdvZbrMMWc1FWUuVYFAZfzDjGXGpX5T94EkoqN Rz3g== Received: by 10.229.198.200 with SMTP id ep8mr5290858qcb.155.1354149584959; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 16:39:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.129.169 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 16:39:44 -0800 (PST) References: <2d81f9df.7e7e8.13b493d8d89.Webtop.13@optonline.net> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:39:44 -0600 From: Jason Ostrowski To: Todd Redmond Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" , harmug@us.ibm.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 72, Issue 42 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Todd Redmond wrote: "Reading all of the responses got me thinking. Which location is better to mount the fuel cell and why; 2. A little higher, over the rear axle toward the center of the car" At least in the GT6 the 2nd option is out... as you need to access the studs and nuts from above the axle for differential install and removal. There is lots of weight up front in our coupes. By virtue of balance more than anything, farthest back and low is our best bet. While we are getting creative...There is always that old NASCAR trick (maybe Smokey Yunick Sp?) where you use the roll bar tubes for one giant scary secret gas tank. or tubular Bomb... Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 28 18:02:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08BEB43936 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:02:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6A5343936 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:02:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.201]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id BA0BE1C000051; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 20:02:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msc004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msc004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.205]) by mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 8597EE000085; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 20:02:52 -0500 (EST) References: <2d81f9df.7e7e8.13b493d8d89.Webtop.13@optonline.net> To: jason@multivintage.com, alfetta95@optonline.net Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m129.sysops.aol.com (149.174.9.20) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 28 Nov 2012 20:02:52 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 20:02:52 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1354150972; bh=iIE8GaqlYGXPCElHMw5RsTgV1YmEcm8r/PEpXK3REw4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oDU6nqti0ZOJORjpJeLAZ8+91lYC+OfOIZ+cGFq0A/e0gEDSg+foGYLThI/7Vg0Ho xBu/EVU0/MBR1/85Tqy76wnltR7q/AMoluE50tYdCtJHLCv3Tc1HGfJAzxeHslzfIz m/JpHpVQ0kIxn3+NpGP6X6jv8qKlI8LgbX7pP1O8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c950b6b43c278a Cc: fot@autox.team.net, harmug@us.ibm.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 72, Issue 42 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net YES, Smokey Yunick. He told us that at Mid-Ohio. He couldnt hear any questions, so someone had to relay questions into his ear. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Jason Ostrowski To: Todd Redmond Cc: FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net ; harmug Sent: Wed, Nov 28, 2012 6:48 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 72, Issue 42 On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Todd Redmond wrote: "Reading all of the responses got me thinking. Which location is better to mount the fuel cell and why; 2. A little higher, over the rear axle toward the center of the car" At least in the GT6 the 2nd option is out... as you need to access the studs and nuts from above the axle for differential install and removal. There is lots of weight up front in our coupes. By virtue of balance more than anything, farthest back and low is our best bet. While we are getting creative...There is always that old NASCAR trick (maybe Smokey Yunick Sp?) where you use the roll bar tubes for one giant scary secret gas tank. or tubular Bomb... Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 28 20:42:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5490C43875 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 20:42:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s33.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s33.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.108]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D23443873 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 20:42:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU168-W44 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s33.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 28 Nov 2012 19:42:33 -0800 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 22:42:33 -0500 References: FILETIME=[90C98A90:01CDCDE3] Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Cell Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On the subject of vents. We autocross the spitfire some also and the hard jolts back and forth would tend to slosh gas out the vent tube even when we ran it up and looped it a couple of times. Since it exited the trunk floor near the exhaust it was not a good combination. We fabbed up a small catch can roughly 4x4x4 and mounted it on the floor of the trunk. The vent tube ran from the cell to the top of the catch can. A second vent tube came out of the top of the catch can and exited through the floor of the trunk. The bottom of catch can has a petcock that also goes out the floor of the trunk that is used to drain off any gas at an appropriate time. That did the trick for us. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 28 21:08:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ADA043927 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:08:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B9443913 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:04:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VEMF1k0080x6nqcAFG5A9F; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 04:05:10 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([24.22.75.60]) by omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VG591k00B1J37AG8YG59D9; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 04:05:10 +0000 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 20:05:02 -0800 From: Jim Norlin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 To: fot@autox.team.net References: s=q20121106; t=1354161910; bh=oOuCNzYAtWjaB0uor3Mfewfv0SpFxjR0WAELuJ+rsT4=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=l9ex++XFJ8ozIfhfl+srDsX/4kXuQGM8DbULe0eUz6eovAh6NI5+9bpZUlTzt5F4j v5okf39wCsMOI6uAHOc8e9oYsVHp0L9FHvFrYnqgZ48psSVFXHSABcyoSDqabftryE hkk6cIxB/8VT1JaD3GzfTb+hSJ/HoRqIE3QrLKPzMZl2u1P/UsVL4P9EO+30urTQo4 zkMxV5FLRq1LSVsravdXUhFurwpwMjqFWxYznFlmbH6s5it5XNn1HvpBjPlztt+OTt 4h8eVJoA9JaEy5tryIjO+fjk38we253oBBNkX8OZSk87M+vuMueIbJ5RgZiRt2gxcu lQanEGXrqBvJA== Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Cell Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm using an 8 gallon Fuel Safe cell. Never had a problem with overflow in the vent tube, but then I only run about 4-5 gallons max. The vent hose is one of the clear plastic, nylon braided hoses available from Home Depot. I attached it to an Aeroquip fitting and it works fine. I got a small in-line plastic check valve from Pegasus I think and shoved it into the hose a couple of inches. Allows air in and no fuel out. Photos available on request. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/norlinengineering@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 28 21:24:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B604343996 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:24:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dfn.com (mail.dfn.com [74.116.128.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E60C40EDC for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:24:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] [199.83.117.102] by dfn.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-11.5) id 537600057d485f2b; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:24:46 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:24:42 -0700 From: Michael Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 To: marty sukey References: Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Cell Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 11/28/2012 8:42 PM, marty sukey wrote: > On the subject of vents. We autocross the spitfire some also and the hard > jolts back and forth would tend to slosh gas out the vent tube even when we > ran it up and looped it a couple of times. Since it exited the trunk floor > near the exhaust it was not a good combination. This would seem to be a perfect application for a vacuum break check valve. There are fuel-proof check valves of this type available, and in operation, they are normally closed until there is a differential between atmosphere and the tank interior, then open just long enough to equalize pressures. One of those installed before the loop in the vent tube would effectively end the problem of fuel sloshing out. Maybe something like this: http://www.mcmaster.com/#spring-check-valves/=kda0b8 A differential of a third of a psi to open would probably be negligible as far as fuel delivery goes, and it's doubtful sloshed fuel in a vertical pipe would cause it to open. The oil- and diesel-proof valve might not last quite as long when used with gasoline, but, they're pretty cheap compared to the cost of the fuel cell--or the cost of hauling to an event and then getting black-flagged for leaking fuel. Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 28 22:25:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA89843943 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 22:25:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (fed1rmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D6843937 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 22:24:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from fed1rmimpo305 ([68.230.241.173]) by fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20121129052432.UEYQ32719.fed1rmfepo102.cox.net@fed1rmimpo305> for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 00:24:32 -0500 Received: from Vista ([68.110.89.224]) by fed1rmimpo305 with cox id VHQW1k0064qRjhw01HQYnW; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 00:24:32 -0500 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=RRar7phsiB4A:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=sT_jrBsz66bfNMLwrvUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: "'marty sukey'" , "'FOT'" References: Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 22:24:43 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac3N5FxlZ9nnoTZpQ6GeQ0393C7oowADVgUA Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Cell Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I just attached a hose to the vent and ran it high enough that any slosh would be contained and drain back to the tank. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of marty sukey Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 8:43 PM To: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Cell Questions On the subject of vents. We autocross the spitfire some also and the hard jolts back and forth would tend to slosh gas out the vent tube even when we ran it up and looped it a couple of times. Since it exited the trunk floor near the exhaust it was not a good combination. We fabbed up a small catch can roughly 4x4x4 and mounted it on the floor of the trunk. The vent tube ran from the cell to the top of the catch can. A second vent tube came out of the top of the catch can and exited through the floor of the trunk. The bottom of catch can has a petcock that also goes out the floor of the trunk that is used to drain off any gas at an appropriate time. That did the trick for us. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 28 22:29:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3123B43992 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 22:29:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED274382A for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 22:29:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.22.217]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0ME800HXKHWM0E00@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 23:29:11 -0600 (CST) From: "Bill Tobin" To: Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 00:29:08 -0500 Subject: [Fot] fuel cells Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Gang, All this talk of fuel cells reminds me of the time I was going through Tech. The inspector asked what the object was that was nestled under the fuel cell holddown straps. I replied that it was an analog fuel level indicator system. Inspector laughed. Object is more commonly known as a wooded ruler. A little humor never hurts! Cheers, Bill PS, I use an ATL 15 gallon cell. It's what came with the car. It fits in the trunk nicely. PPS, go see "Lincoln" Great movie. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 06:59:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21894397E for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 06:59:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s28.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s28.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45FDD40ECE for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 06:58:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU168-W21 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s28.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 29 Nov 2012 05:59:07 -0800 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:59:06 -0500 References: , <0703412942B1461BBD1D0A0ED42349A4@Vista> FILETIME=[B2CC8CE0:01CDCE39] Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Cell Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I received a few words of advice on my "situation", thanks much they are appreciated. Let me add.... The fuel sloshing out condition showed up when I first got the car. I checked and it did have a check valve. I took it out and there did not really appear that there was any way for it to not function, at least visually so I re-installed it. Originally the vent went to the top of the inner fender and then straight down, no loop. I do not remember how much gas I had in the cell, maybe I just had it to full. Anyway, I really really didn't like the gas coming out onto the exhaust so the catch can was installed as a redundant system as well as adding a loop in the vent tank. Since I have put in this so called fix I honestly cannot remember ever draining any gas out of the catch can after a event. So maybe it was a big waste of time but it made me more at ease never having to be wondering if gas might be possibly splashing out when I am at the wheel. And heaven knows, I need lots less to worry about when I am behind the wheel! :) Marty _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 08:01:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8174D43913 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:01:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C6040ED9 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:01:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id qATF1EZZ018178; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:01:14 -0500 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:01:14 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: marty sukey References: Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Cell Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, My fuel cell has a "check valve" in the vent tube, so positive pressure from fuel in the vent closes the valve and there's no spilling. Ever. I'm pretty sure that the check valve is required in road racing "in case of a rollover". That seemed like a good idea to me at the time. I'm pretty sure I have the 8 gallon Fuel Safe cell (aluminum case, kevlar bladder and foam with the internal surge can and pickups in both front corners. It works great. Actually, I'm thinking about replacing the foam as it is now 14 years old. But I also use nothing but 110 leaded race fuel, so there's no degredation on the fuel lines or anything. regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 08:12:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EE543939 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:12:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (imr-mb01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.164]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5F7437E2 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:10:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 552461C00015F for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:11:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msc004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msc004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.205]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1E45EE00008B for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:11:07 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d014.sysops.aol.com (205.188.181.33) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:11:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:11:06 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1354201867; bh=zRedPO/RAMIZsysMV/HuX94VNzPs/p0C6vKOtwo13W4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ga05NUt039wnw2JrhiOk0YElXTcRop+UZdl8sFd0WIcf5fxU1npCQhoXc07dOWDXw r475FFip4HZN99EUpKvkE+jfKUsxAY57rIxiOxN0Ko52Tz6z30p+GvaU5zYostDp2R YQmyFKDwQMC4LaPmpnS5zHSXp4lrh8CSRtxUce30= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c50b77b0b6ef1 Subject: [Fot] The first TR6 FRONT FENDER REPAIR PANEL..... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net ......was produced yesterday. Lower Fender 'rust' panel at rocker. If anyone is interested in seeing a picture, contact me. The TR4 Panel is in production....The TR6 production will be available in a couple of weeks when the CAD files are completed and laser blanking can start.. Regards, Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 30 09:25:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 821E64380B for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 09:25:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm15-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm15-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.164]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCAE940ED5 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 09:18:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.104] by nm15.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2012 16:19:01 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.244] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2012 16:19:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp115.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2012 16:19:01 -0000 L_8Ngp3CTQ_0THgZNrXV056stjE4a7cPjwhW71E_hwoniGnXHzbYGvjC6zNr u4OI3H6jYECi9_FsTv87UF69UgkcQpaS5mIRPkmd78pyuMYQOabkXlsAdGs5 Qx1dX542MRlyz9lczZ_THI0RQo8_yjCAhFLOnhWz12YwSa000YteMRGTCu02 ERXLqvilxpUmGPls.eHuNGKyIhgN6crfFBp7Rmj1vUMsBw_t7ncXhS4AZBwV rEcxjlMkiiHiDJ11ZnXYk0KBHcEI9dh1cz7U_esuMNeF7BCLAUrTfhOsEo36 Xacovp11wp9ubWgkY1m1a4pyxC1zu4GJLXeGePbF3UxnFdZIhWloCStkmOQl oW6l4c8BSxElb35qcJTXY0LphfcZFfzAJNBHx5mWaSkaywqghgvKAPeucXM8 .0C.VjMo0LkwyyK8CrJcIGaK5LANyd0Vn4vMx1GMgQ7PAnggfq9_a8wO4eVQ cWSP5WdRvfP_ejjDj7eGr1NmEI6ze Received: from [192.168.1.77] (cartravel@99.98.59.54 with plain) by smtp115.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2012 08:19:01 -0800 PST Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 10:19:12 -0600 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <41FED569899943C0ACF03EE1346A517D@hpd530> Subject: Re: [Fot] fuel cells Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I always used a Model T gas gauge. I purpose made wooden stick with graduations for the type of tank. Unfortunately, no scale for my fuel cell. Larry On 11/28/2012 11:29 PM, Bill Tobin wrote: > Hi Gang, > All this talk of fuel cells reminds me of the time I was going through Tech. > The inspector asked what the object was that was nestled under the fuel cell > holddown straps. > I replied that it was an analog fuel level indicator system. > Inspector laughed. > Object is more commonly known as a wooded ruler. > A little humor never hurts! > Cheers, Bill > PS, I use an ATL 15 gallon cell. It's what came with the car. It fits in the > trunk nicely. > PPS, go see "Lincoln" Great movie. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel@pobox.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 30 22:23:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A107843802 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 22:23:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27236437FB for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 21:44:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C31A136B for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 21:45:37 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 21:45:37 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] FWD: Piston needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net To send mail to fot@autox.team.net you send mail to fot@autox.team.net. mjb. Subject: tr 3/4 piston(s) From: KENMUN@aol.com Date: 11/30/2012 11:03 AM i need a 87mm piston, will consider a set. thanks. ken m. tr 3 vintage racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net