From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 1 12:41:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB0940E4F for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 12:41:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail201c2.megamailservers.com (mail201c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6D440E3A for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 12:40:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.236.201.115] (29.sub-174-254-144.myvzw.com [174.254.144.29]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail201c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r01JcEx8023981 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 14:38:17 -0500 From: John Hasty Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 14:38:12 -0500 To: "Triumph 'Friends of Triumph" a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=XTreQszMPxqotbaIF8H/Gw==:17 a=4IT__iGEeBOyYKaxNaEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=XTreQszMPxqotbaIF8H/Gw==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: [Fot] Wheel studs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Who would be a source for "long" wheel studs other than ARP? Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 1 14:19:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC67D40E5E for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 14:19:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.71]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE3B40556 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 14:16:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jan 2013 21:14:11 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.90] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jan 2013 21:14:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1027.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jan 2013 21:14:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 77171 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Jan 2013 21:14:11 -0000 s=s1024; t=1357074851; bh=3qywogi6Bl/cspm0kJr0HT2/+rcKL6d76iiAA8NILzo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sYTAnRAQhb+wEtGNLmuXzLlslSvVZpb2wrkEm4xO6JursaPE5+XBEB4Zom5YY55hSKsb78ynDLvv/kz2dyUFf78IIORHPMzop+FhjT9YV58aoT1G8ZuS1B5NY4WR4U8anow69D4cXrfDzfptnHRgG2ck09FYrb3BCC9Ltrt7jYM= s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=T17/K40FsGFt+ZgU3UNhpysuBNEHHWlYhTAhZey3lZM1AlbP6dimiSGCmdo9+fgbnoBytWzkSSlmStC7EprlGgQ7inj2cjYTL1q3fT60clh4jKpwtesmfSzNe5CdFWpOuJ/xgR6UUKS1eNrbaGRk8M+Mw5FKt+8yXL78lvkKkLM=; XMLWEaxZ.tkAtxiaYZVqiAHFiYXJuczsXjEc6sV1uz3YKObxkSIkeaCxiSbT rxCAPylUFnfTZh_OywkhWsGYliPJ4QRqNvKxqLvwL6hd9sJmSG1sZsArY1VW qtEj1K1dEP1fq5DjsoX_U.H1g.SSLkq0YnbbD4KnPaTIZg9kq2.KFUVDINlV yKIUElQBXLVl7OIuHo0y5o9GCzNFhoyaOhITl4cU_UDrAGS_R.ZfbkRbrLGf EO8t4y2bekSWNQ5bayh0.rQuFgJg0qjQy74i.4PZaKzuL5HKv6aVGqXIztRi aveJP7L08lCDz6MBi4gd4XAOjbxqDrhtIz0CPI5ysRNCvCHZ3p_lxsjTuDYq XVZ106NBKEak9ChHK4Ruz7W3bGQlXnUHKcRT0ab.HFeI5CK.Y2RJxrYjQ32H _UdOgy_kBDyBAJ.PziN1JwFy0nqbT9jK4KQn_3SukfTQjW5jKeyDwQC2E07l sMXXJ3OyDUlMzKkmjESFAOifBuVuH7Stc.KM.5hALJIW9zPw2ycbt9oOP3UH iMispLb53Xjq_j2EVx0BkNBGU6Jw- Received: from [99.43.68.42] by web185006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Jan 2013 13:14:11 PST SSB1c2UgTU9ST1NPIHBhcnQjIDQ2MTYwDQpIYXBweSBOZXcgWWVhciBFdmVyeWJvZHkuDQoNCkRlbm5pcw0KDQoNCi0tLSBPbiBUdWUsIDEvMS8xMywgSm9obiBIYXN0eSA8amhoYXN0eUBnZGhzLmNvbT4gd3JvdGU6DQoNCj4gRnJvbTogSm9obiBIYXN0eSA8amhoYXN0eUBnZGhzLmNvbT4NCj4gU3ViamVjdDogW0ZvdF0gV2hlZWwgc3R1ZHMNCj4gVG86ICJUcml1bXBoICdGcmllbmRzIG9mIFRyaXVtcGgiIDxmb3RAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQ.DQo.IERhdGU6IFR1ZXNkYXksIEphbnVhcnkgMSwgMjAxMywgMToBMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 13:14:11 -0800 (PST) From: Dennis DeLap To: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph , John Hasty Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheel studs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I use MOROSO part# 46160 Happy New Year Everybody. Dennis --- On Tue, 1/1/13, John Hasty wrote: > From: John Hasty > Subject: [Fot] Wheel studs > To: "Triumph 'Friends of Triumph" > Date: Tuesday, January 1, 2013, 1:38 PM > Who would be a source for "long" > wheel studs other than ARP? > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 1 21:09:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 764924226F for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 21:09:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF9A4055A for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 21:09:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.138]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7FAD31C0000AD; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 23:06:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-drd004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-drd004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.227.13]) by mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 52BCBE000085; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 23:06:41 -0500 (EST) References: <6F700B83-3468-4EE5-8E88-161D083F65C7@gdhs.com> To: jhhasty@gdhs.com, fot@autox.team.net From: malaboge@aol.com Received: from 76.102.23.82 by webmail-m098.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.44) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 01 Jan 2013 23:06:40 -0500 Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 23:06:40 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1357099601; bh=StKgPb8ZtvU74WT8jVcnAQ2HCJpfGUihGwMi+WsyTYE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cWrZ9ibLZ2sVzFUuQUUBhCnAAT/0E/rk40HselCvGnyUa9oYgiduxmtiG4HcIIwyi RcPqmPAJnkXxCgqRGG6PvClJLs46uGdvBMCr4M1n26mUjG+gvANWL2Bg0ZdPnKY8c6 YTtD8mZNtJvb0OKw781KSyDVxyaOxIEBWYk5Ror0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338a50e3b2515ac9 Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheel studs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Try Miloden @86060 pre 63 GM bolts and I believe you need to ream the hubs to 19/32" ...about $25 for 10 of 'em. An old lug myself... Nick in Nor Cal -----Original Message----- From: John Hasty To: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Sent: Tue, Jan 1, 2013 11:38 am Subject: [Fot] Wheel studs Who would be a source for "long" wheel studs other than ARP? Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 1 21:18:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22FA440E57 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 21:18:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9828C4055A for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 21:16:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.140]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 616521C0000A9 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 23:14:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-drd004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-drd004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.227.13]) by mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 3A653E000085 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 23:14:00 -0500 (EST) References: <6F700B83-3468-4EE5-8E88-161D083F65C7@gdhs.com> <8CFB6B5B3F02C0F-DB8-45206@webmail-m098.sysops.aol.com> To: fot@autox.team.net From: malaboge@aol.com Received: from 76.102.23.82 by webmail-m098.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.44) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 01 Jan 2013 23:13:59 -0500 Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 23:14:00 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1357100040; bh=tmWv8k7seKB8HUh6BhLCVZ7PcNnzuntu8BfBYTN3QzQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uIFlat41uCPAK1aI7YeghaAbMsXd/4Mcc3XAlzpAiw9/SmBe5/dZXihrLCnzv/f+n vy3qZ7qwgRNe9btj5zYVZ4ZnvNYyzUopqIljZW6BSYmiNQeDQPTb1lkJMrSqkbEv0P 8DpxfT5KVYQC/9uMC70B+3a9SvhAfRiczuAd4Qm4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338c50e3b4085daf Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Wheel studs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net DOH... make that # 86060 darn fat phingers... -----Original Message----- From: malaboge To: jhhasty ; fot Sent: Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:07 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheel studs Try Miloden @86060 pre 63 GM bolts and I believe you need to ream the hubs to 19/32" ...about $25 for 10 of 'em. An old lug myself... Nick in Nor Cal -----Original Message----- From: John Hasty To: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Sent: Tue, Jan 1, 2013 11:38 am Subject: [Fot] Wheel studs Who would be a source for "long" wheel studs other than ARP? Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 2 06:22:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6C142467 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 06:22:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f178.google.com (mail-qc0-f178.google.com [209.85.216.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE034054D for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 06:21:23 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qc0-f178.google.com with SMTP id j34so7257400qco.37 for ; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 05:18:52 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Cj1kPEPPjnNCdt0DikYFkNkzHuR1hZj137XSrrjSsSg=; b=okt1x3+zZMjxfiVu+vLMYsRnbKr3glyo7o76HhnmPTVnamXt8NtganDUOsopcXpbo5 fOjGpATwOhDpo3N3hBBVxJsx/gpnlBOL/akBoH7U0A2HrhtvKvEpH3ObJjb0EYAxAWzO rKGOaRsrf37nQF3IqsUves6czMKW9rOFDdsrJIRI5yUI8gvEjPB72I5v0auC7xavFgOw iyIsoPewgJmmbBtuguNt65yEms9BHXuWnp9jKGsXqN7DekNs4J7lKuVW3yckCugLoGJH s6vKbN9JrEhCSSR6oUzoygjllGSP84/26AFcRAs57tKcHSDnmKcc1EGrzXeFZXRATIYT CBuQ== Received: by 10.49.96.1 with SMTP id do1mr27113920qeb.26.1357132732021; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 05:18:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.59.108 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 05:18:51 -0800 (PST) References: <6F700B83-3468-4EE5-8E88-161D083F65C7@gdhs.com> <8CFB6B5B3F02C0F-DB8-45206@webmail-m098.sysops.aol.com> <8CFB6B6B9BDE68F-DB8-45252@webmail-m098.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 08:18:51 -0500 From: Robert Deanes To: malaboge@aol.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Wheel studs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net John , Moser also makes the long studs, not that it matters but that may be the axles you are running from Southwich. On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 11:14 PM, wrote: > DOH... > > make that # 86060 darn fat phingers... > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: malaboge > To: jhhasty ; fot > Sent: Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:07 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheel studs > > > Try Miloden @86060 pre 63 GM bolts and I believe you need to ream the > hubs > to 19/32" ...about $25 for 10 of 'em. > > An old lug myself... > Nick in Nor Cal > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Hasty > To: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph > Sent: Tue, Jan 1, 2013 11:38 am > Subject: [Fot] Wheel studs > > > Who would be a source for "long" wheel studs other than ARP? > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 2 06:36:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E55D42482 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 06:36:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 114A14043B for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 06:31:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r02DTHGm032071; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 08:29:17 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 08:29:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Dennis DeLap References: <1357074851.72302.YahooMailClassic@web185006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheel studs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On Tue, 1 Jan 2013, Dennis DeLap wrote: > I use MOROSO part# 46160 > Happy New Year Everybody. 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Violators will be prosecuted; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 11:00:18 -0500 Received: from d01relay02.pok.ibm.com (d01relay02.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.234]) by d01dlp03.pok.ibm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F90AC90081 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 11:00:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from d01av03.pok.ibm.com (d01av03.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.217]) by d01relay02.pok.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id r02G0CJv233366 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 11:00:13 -0500 Received: from d01av03.pok.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d01av03.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id r02G0Bj9011565 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 14:00:12 -0200 Received: from d01ml099.pok.ibm.com (d01ml099.pok.ibm.com [9.63.8.34]) by d01av03.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVin) with ESMTP id r02G03N7010811; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 14:00:07 -0200 To: fot@autox.team.net From: George Harmuth Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 11:00:05 -0500 ZX853FP2HF2|October 8, 2012) at 01/02/2013 11:00:07 x-cbid: 13010216-9360-0000-0000-00000EA7AE01 Cc: fmccjr@aol.com Subject: [Fot] New member nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net 1st new member nomination of the New Year, Rick McCurdy from NY. Rick is a long time member of the Brits of the Hudson car club and recently purchased a TR3 race car. It's currently being renovated for service as a race car and will undoubtedly have some questions for the assembled masses. Do I hear a second? Current Photo - TR3 http://s32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/harmug/Brits%20of%20the%20Hudson/ thanks mike 63 Spitfire race car 75, 72, 80 Spitfire street cars 70 GT6 almost ready to return to the street G. Michael Harmuth _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 2 09:34:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90DC4295B for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 09:34:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 081DC428FF for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 09:34:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4BF341C0000A1; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 11:32:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msa003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.73]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 148FAE000082; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 11:32:11 -0500 (EST) From: N197TR4@cs.com Full-name: N197TR4 Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 11:32:10 -0500 (EST) To: harmug@us.ibm.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1357144331; bh=ioy0j/2XHQ3BUAr1WEdDz8solfph7dzrIt6L6ISnb1Y=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=c1cEr3rGbroczApAA13zUzOEoUABgKQdTXYVaB5Ce5szwVArTodReQQqc8/io6Mrq +PRlj/wEhsTVNtSAYmJ55BsiSmNoQ9CsvERmU2Ku3Of2zwQsBwT+dNz2eJ6x22fx9g nqIGDlqFWvYfKWZEGnROIw7FbRycNF2oYdCIQ8TQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c750e4610b0ac4 Cc: fmccjr@aol.com Subject: Re: [Fot] New member nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Of course.........wet liner people are always welcome. 2nd > 1st new member nomination of the New Year, Rick McCurdy from NY. Rick is a > long time member of the Brits of the Hudson car club and recently purchased > a TR3 race car. It's currently being renovated for service as a race car > and will undoubtedly have some questions for the assembled masses. > Do I hear a second? > > Current Photo - TR3 > http://s32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/harmug/Brits%20of%20the%20Hudson/ > > thanks > mike > > 63 Spitfire race car > 75, 72, 80 Spitfire street cars > 70 GT6 almost ready to return to the street > > > G. Michael Harmuth > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 2 09:58:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4164429D2 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 09:58:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D75FF424DE for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 09:58:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id j3jx1k00A16AWCUA14w5Fh; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 16:56:05 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id j4w41k0082vctGa8S4w4op; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 16:56:04 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: , , References: <12f9a.ddb75b6.3e15bb09@cs.com> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 08:56:02 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1357145765; bh=ret7YPn49YCRybL/KGFAJpYniY8aAqeRh6zfzYQKnmA=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GCZY+eUTsj31Hpf2+Pl+EQWElIKZVk1Wj+GnsRLDA67Z8MTZ1qOl6vM1xJmosfo44 n4yIYcbWHbImfOp2AD/ffUp58BcSGlV6u1CIxnbiYGeVJ5BjLvzJnM8L9tySjWm9Dp 5LWQty1l1QGdzzcfTzMrttGA2jmHAMNryQcQRarWlCYmd3uOm7C4uYXpGjg1DE3Nhn l4brmsBKGRR1dZLFbf8f/Vpma1WCad0hO3F5Lky1/zw03bn6XiaVXWyCJ6+umiZ/0d s1jElGvQZi2AzMVESjrTRj3948DYZx01G7USSMU/fis4582MZY49wRl5UjfyB8W1It 03INxdPtm9Idw== Cc: fmccjr@aol.com Subject: Re: [Fot] New member nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I will second Rick Mcurdy RB ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] New member nomination > Of course.........wet liner people are always welcome. > > 2nd > > >> 1st new member nomination of the New Year, Rick McCurdy from NY. Rick is >> a >> long time member of the Brits of the Hudson car club and recently >> purchased >> a TR3 race car. It's currently being renovated for service as a race car >> and will undoubtedly have some questions for the assembled masses. >> Do I hear a second? >> >> Current Photo - TR3 >> http://s32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/harmug/Brits%20of%20the%20Hudson/ >> >> thanks >> mike >> >> 63 Spitfire race car >> 75, 72, 80 Spitfire street cars >> 70 GT6 almost ready to return to the street >> >> >> G. Michael Harmuth >> > > > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 2 14:23:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 903D142531 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 14:23:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0D34252B for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 14:22:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([10.127.143.53]) by cdptpa-qmta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20121231044233679.YFO21006@cdptpa-qmta02.mail.rr.com> for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 04:42:33 +0000 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=72_T4dNeBn8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=RDG89hB1B-QA:10 a=4FZ_GIFcsI5gRD_YxfEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=E6k37eg1NvgA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55008] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id E9/0D-05345-B7711E05; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 04:41:31 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'FOT'" Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 20:41:33 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac3nDm/aSpX5HylrQfexfZbeFrcrKQAAoPzQ Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 upper head plugs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > Does anyone happen to know where to get the aluminum plugs in > the top of the head ? TRF seems to have them listed (PS1603/1); but I think most people just tap the hole for a common pipe plug instead. -- Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 2 14:24:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C823242B2A for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 14:24:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5527D42552 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 14:22:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([10.128.143.54]) by hrndva-qmta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20130102161325921.RCWM20957@hrndva-qmta03.mail.rr.com> for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 16:13:25 +0000 a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:17 a=7KaaxAUCt-sA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=P05uGAjnbcEA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=Y4smDxfCAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=DEB9pDRoiHvFlOD3ezkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:117 Received: from [67.255.16.235] ([67.255.16.235:51201] helo=Shop) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id F4/F9-01424-86C54E05; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 16:12:24 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: "'George Harmuth'" , References: Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 11:14:06 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac3pAl/LU6a5XfqzTnq9gLtId3rjrgAAcnYw Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] New member nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Okay, second! russ -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of George Harmuth Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 11:00 AM To: fot@autox.team.net Cc: fmccjr@aol.com Subject: [Fot] New member nomination 1st new member nomination of the New Year, Rick McCurdy from NY. Rick is a long time member of the Brits of the Hudson car club and recently purchased a TR3 race car. It's currently being renovated for service as a race car and will undoubtedly have some questions for the assembled masses. Do I hear a second? Current Photo - TR3 http://s32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/harmug/Brits%20of%20the%20Hudson/ thanks mike 63 Spitfire race car 75, 72, 80 Spitfire street cars 70 GT6 almost ready to return to the street G. Michael Harmuth _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 2 15:32:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F59042B88 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 15:32:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bosmailout10.eigbox.net (bosmailout10.eigbox.net [66.96.190.10]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9974259E for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 15:32:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from bosmailscan02.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.2]) by bosmailout10.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1TqWoT-0003mk-90 for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 17:29:29 -0500 Received: from bosimpout02.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.2]) by bosmailscan02.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1TqWoS-0004oE-Il for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 17:29:28 -0500 Received: from bosauthsmtp13.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.13]) by bosimpout02.eigbox.net with NO UCE id jAVV1k0010GvDVm01AVVmJ; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 17:29:29 -0500 a=ZP/C8iKN44S7o9el8de7CQ==:17 a=3-MZCWuAnnEA:10 a=LJMO8JqGar0A:10 a=WNYq8-gdu4-acOg3V1wA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=zOyPdDkDQZtUmT9n_CMA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=yRO8CVojhcCvRHoK:21 a=UH8/iCWBfdUmbm4Ft4Vi3Q==:117 Received: from ppp-70-253-90-53.dsl.austtx.swbell.net ([70.253.90.53] helo=zap6) by bosauthsmtp13.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1TqWoS-0000Y4-MD for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 17:29:28 -0500 From: "Robert MacKenzie" To: "'Friends of Triumph'" Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 16:29:21 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac3pOJyCLcaBHl+IRZmnPASRPCm9LQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] HANS Device Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Can anybody make a recommendation on HANS devices? Which ones are good/not-so good.. Robert MacKenzie _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 2 15:38:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7554942B42 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 15:38:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFB8425A6 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 15:35:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.99.26] (c-76-99-29-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [76.99.29.73]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MG00017LRYEGO30@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 22:32:40 +0000 (GMT) From: Scott Janzen Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 17:32:37 -0500 References: <002c01cde938$9dca3e90$d95ebbb0$@aero> To: Robert MacKenzie Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS Device Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I like the Hans Sport - rounded corners don't get hooked on the door frame of my GT6 coupe like the "standard" Hans. On Jan 2, 2013, at 5:29 PM, Robert MacKenzie wrote: Can anybody make a recommendation on HANS devices? Which ones are good/not-so good.. Robert MacKenzie _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 2 16:27:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD6E342C6F for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 16:27:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm9-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm9-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A967D425BC for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 16:27:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.100] by nm9.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jan 2013 23:25:04 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.172] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jan 2013 23:25:04 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp106.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jan 2013 23:25:04 -0000 YdywoKu2y9oCUT1G9zWlZ4OBycCtsdZL2a4A1FTlhtjwQQ8pFU.vQ66GHEiV EGCExHKMtkIskaTfLTHhPMTtvOe1U9LS28wUbA4YsrlWhjOrrJeQyr01Kqac PRygGitMTJq3Z07ucT7dlhKI6RPS8zxMSBgd1I5P1RnxrZqF1c.ZGXNnaALO 5WfgOqamZzMOQyqdEj2olCypMeFBD3Jj9yZjApJcx5Nb8WDmMwOwTgbMheuh Lc9WRpf_bHoHPADwENdqtzyUnsRbri1Auvq_e7ZfqqU1YXpeljmrrSCc6lde DMrwTDlRvSxmh1P6jf0A9qdQqn4xHR2yve.PJPgg73jMwZUN8p3r1DuHRF9X 7BlfhQh1P0yEEwIGzZZKvcMgShpOFp8EfgOz5aB84amVEkeM0FMkPxHrQVQq ynQz0UcG0QNCPo5I8ytL72DBqzNwomT.Xe6ix7ksshOWB83c3enz1Uc.hZAN im6dF7Pom5F.LXeS6UB.GAgzHSHSCXhs5V3GD8NE- Received: from rocky (rocky@99.18.223.210 with login) by smtp106.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 02 Jan 2013 15:25:04 -0800 PST From: "Rocky Entriken" To: "Robert MacKenzie" , "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <002c01cde938$9dca3e90$d95ebbb0$@aero> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 17:26:09 -0600 Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS Device Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net They're all good. A HANS is a HANS by that name, other similar devices are knockoffs under different names and personally I like the original. I also don't like the idea of being trussed up in some collection of straps, just the HANS sitting on my shoulders (and under my shoulder belts) works just fine, thanks. Simple and elegant. But prices vary. I have the Hans Sport. It's nice, relatively low-cost, and the "extra weight" is negligible for a club racer doing 30-45 minute events. It might be a consideration for a guy doing a 4-hour NASCAR or triple-stints at the Daytona 24, but then those guys can afford the high-dollar carbon-fibre lightweight models. SafeRacer has some good prices on them. Be sure you get the right model -- they vary both for your neck size and how you sit in your car (laydown, upright). I buy my helmets direct from Simpson. Last one I bought I had Simpson put the HANS anchors in for me. That way I knew they were in the right place (the location matters). BTW, HANS anchors work with a HANS, maybe not with the other brands of head & neck devices. I did not get the "easy-off" anchor release feature. I found it was very easy to pop the HANS straps off my helmet (once I learned how) and didn't need any extra straps dangling down to do it. --Rocky Entriken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert MacKenzie" To: "'Friends of Triumph'" Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 4:29 PM Subject: [Fot] HANS Device > Can anybody make a recommendation on HANS devices? > Which ones are good/not-so good.. > > Robert MacKenzie > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rocky@spitfire4.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 2 16:28:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD11742C56 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 16:28:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm11.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm11.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.138]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFDA440396 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 16:28:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.102] by nm11.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jan 2013 23:26:01 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.175] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jan 2013 23:26:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp109.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jan 2013 23:26:01 -0000 3wH9h5v.oOGfRfKOZS3SVkiJoN0ZflYMLXBqDbvuXAY9N945GjYlTf0reRiG 5mZYzP7q11CU29ZAqYwgqubP0FVFoGtO.diDO_8tCstjnaJHHXO26qcSQ8aR ZNgRPT2w1g6ZkkcwsYn8HpYCWPGQfth_XHfiAypww13UpB2xIrzgomvvWGAY fKpHUFo13_camSb75ziCmB11ldyNa81W_PJLuo_iXUuHH7Hb7XIBdmA6Lrux tIrgOJaQTNIQwx9816qRg3CvzcJyBYsCcy3iz0SH4l27hdz75Vy2craNWOQK 2IXVro3g6xX4r5AKcZPVCITAAwMP2iFeH4XQ71Zi1zeVJNqTnFlEOB1hRQGM qIYQNm4DG.P.8ofLr0OL383I7iBzFPcqxroNodB0Q1RZvbEzKEIIe5TduG0l nTRFy43BVOFpdEZvbm_pd5.yc1h2PJMI- Received: from rocky (rocky@99.18.223.210 with login) by smtp109.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 02 Jan 2013 15:26:01 -0800 PST From: "Rocky Entriken" To: "Robert MacKenzie" , "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <002c01cde938$9dca3e90$d95ebbb0$@aero> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 17:27:06 -0600 Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS Device Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I buy my helmets direct from Simpson. Last one I bought I had Simpson put the HANS anchors in for me. That way I knew they were in the right place (the location matters). BTW, HANS anchors work with a HANS, maybe not with the other brands of head & neck devices. I did not get the "easy-off" anchor release feature. I found it was very easy to pop the HANS straps off my helmet (once I learned how) and didn't need any extra straps dangling down to do it. --Rocky Entriken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert MacKenzie" To: "'Friends of Triumph'" Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 4:29 PM Subject: [Fot] HANS Device > Can anybody make a recommendation on HANS devices? > Which ones are good/not-so good.. > > Robert MacKenzie > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 2 16:31:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CCB34248E for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 16:31:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03CA940396 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 16:31:49 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=qIvRZxPMG+WrIvTUH9CmK2Yw4RIXeGTRKnZ0VebqRzhBWT3aSRoM72EcTMSmmad8; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Cc:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.38] (helo=elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TqXkF-0007zi-KP; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 18:29:11 -0500 Received: from 108.64.186.7 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 18:29:11 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 15:29:11 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: steve To: Robert MacKenzie Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS Device Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Get the HANS 20 degree layback model with the adjustable tethers. If you feel like dropping a few extra bucks, get the carbon-fiber model. ~Steve -----Original Message----- >From: Robert MacKenzie >Sent: Jan 2, 2013 2:29 PM >To: 'Friends of Triumph' >Subject: [Fot] HANS Device > >Can anybody make a recommendation on HANS devices? >Which ones are good/not-so good.. > >Robert MacKenzie >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 2 16:56:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE5742D03 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 16:56:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail168c2.megamailservers.com (mail168c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CEFB42CB6 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 16:51:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.225.70.118] (108.sub-174-252-156.myvzw.com [174.252.156.108]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail168c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r02NnGUG029312 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 2 Jan 2013 18:49:19 -0500 References: <002c01cde938$9dca3e90$d95ebbb0$@aero> From: John Hasty Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 18:49:14 -0500 To: Rocky Entriken a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=f4DJVqQRat4myJgO9q+V/w==:17 a=xFKyJiilAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=u2fvLikjUqW0NrHfy4sA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=o6OwA3o9ZFcA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=f4DJVqQRat4myJgO9q+V/w==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS Device Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net GForce also does the anchors to your hat. If possible I would go to your dealer and try on all the sizes with your hat. I found the "recommended" size was not the best for me when it was actually fitted. Be sure and get the theather straps that slide through their mounts. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 2, 2013, at 6:26 PM, "Rocky Entriken" wrote: > They're all good. A HANS is a HANS by that name, other similar devices are knockoffs under different names and personally I like the original. I also don't like the idea of being trussed up in some collection of straps, just the HANS sitting on my shoulders (and under my shoulder belts) works just fine, thanks. Simple and elegant. > > But prices vary. I have the Hans Sport. It's nice, relatively low-cost, and the "extra weight" is negligible for a club racer doing 30-45 minute events. It might be a consideration for a guy doing a 4-hour NASCAR or triple-stints at the Daytona 24, but then those guys can afford the high-dollar carbon-fibre lightweight models. > > SafeRacer has some good prices on them. Be sure you get the right model -- they vary both for your neck size and how you sit in your car (laydown, upright). > > I buy my helmets direct from Simpson. Last one I bought I had Simpson put the HANS anchors in for me. That way I knew they were in the right place (the location matters). BTW, HANS anchors work with a HANS, maybe not with the other brands of head & neck devices. > > I did not get the "easy-off" anchor release feature. I found it was very easy to pop the HANS straps off my helmet (once I learned how) and didn't need any extra straps dangling down to do it. > > --Rocky Entriken > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert MacKenzie" > To: "'Friends of Triumph'" > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 4:29 PM > Subject: [Fot] HANS Device > > >> Can anybody make a recommendation on HANS devices? >> Which ones are good/not-so good.. >> >> Robert MacKenzie >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rocky@spitfire4.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 2 17:01:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F84F42D51 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 17:01:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail176c2.megamailservers.com (mail176c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B11E340519 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 17:01:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.225.70.118] (108.sub-174-252-156.myvzw.com [174.252.156.108]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail176c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r02NxFTZ024161 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 2 Jan 2013 18:59:18 -0500 References: <002c01cde938$9dca3e90$d95ebbb0$@aero> From: John Hasty Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 18:59:14 -0500 To: Rocky Entriken a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=f4DJVqQRat4myJgO9q+V/w==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=xFKyJiilAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=71lkoXGV3NT0TuGEN9YA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=o6OwA3o9ZFcA:10 a=f4DJVqQRat4myJgO9q+V/w==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS Device Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net PS: also make sure your seat back is not too far forward at the top so your head can slant slightly back and you have free movement in all directions Sent from my iPhone On Jan 2, 2013, at 6:49 PM, John Hasty wrote: > GForce also does the anchors to your hat. If possible I would go to your dealer and try on all the sizes with your hat. I found the "recommended" size was not the best for me when it was actually fitted. Be sure and get the theather straps that slide through their mounts. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 2, 2013, at 6:26 PM, "Rocky Entriken" wrote: > >> They're all good. A HANS is a HANS by that name, other similar devices are knockoffs under different names and personally I like the original. I also don't like the idea of being trussed up in some collection of straps, just the HANS sitting on my shoulders (and under my shoulder belts) works just fine, thanks. Simple and elegant. >> >> But prices vary. I have the Hans Sport. It's nice, relatively low-cost, and the "extra weight" is negligible for a club racer doing 30-45 minute events. It might be a consideration for a guy doing a 4-hour NASCAR or triple-stints at the Daytona 24, but then those guys can afford the high-dollar carbon-fibre lightweight models. >> >> SafeRacer has some good prices on them. Be sure you get the right model -- they vary both for your neck size and how you sit in your car (laydown, upright). >> >> I buy my helmets direct from Simpson. Last one I bought I had Simpson put the HANS anchors in for me. That way I knew they were in the right place (the location matters). BTW, HANS anchors work with a HANS, maybe not with the other brands of head & neck devices. >> >> I did not get the "easy-off" anchor release feature. I found it was very easy to pop the HANS straps off my helmet (once I learned how) and didn't need any extra straps dangling down to do it. >> >> --Rocky Entriken >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert MacKenzie" >> To: "'Friends of Triumph'" >> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 4:29 PM >> Subject: [Fot] HANS Device >> >> >>> Can anybody make a recommendation on HANS devices? >>> Which ones are good/not-so good.. >>> >>> Robert MacKenzie >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rocky@spitfire4.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 3 07:02:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D55BE42F27 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 07:02:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from e9.ny.us.ibm.com (e9.ny.us.ibm.com [32.97.182.139]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF9342EE1 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 07:01:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from /spool/local by e9.ny.us.ibm.com with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! Violators will be prosecuted for from ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 08:59:23 -0500 Received: from d01dlp01.pok.ibm.com (9.56.250.166) by e9.ny.us.ibm.com (192.168.1.109) with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! Violators will be prosecuted; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 08:59:20 -0500 Received: from d01relay01.pok.ibm.com (d01relay01.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.233]) by d01dlp01.pok.ibm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E20538C803B for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 08:59:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from d01av02.pok.ibm.com (d01av02.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.216]) by d01relay01.pok.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id r03DxJ5Y321520 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 08:59:19 -0500 Received: from d01av02.pok.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d01av02.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id r03DxJ04021796 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 11:59:19 -0200 Received: from d01ml099.pok.ibm.com (d01ml099.pok.ibm.com [9.63.8.34]) by d01av02.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVin) with ESMTP id r03DxIKg021699 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 11:59:18 -0200 References: To: fot@autox.team.net From: George Harmuth Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 08:59:04 -0500 ZX853FP2HF2|October 8, 2012) at 01/03/2013 08:59:18 x-cbid: 13010313-7182-0000-0000-0000042B2273 Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 74, Issue 3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'd recommend the HANS Sport 20 degree with the sliding brackets. I don't have the quick disconnect, open cockpit Spitfire, I just slip the helmet and HANS on as a unit before I slide down into the seat. The sliding tethers allow enough movement from side to side that I really don't notice I have it on. In the past I raced a formula 500 open wheel car and used one of the full body strap type restraints. I felt like a pot roast, all laced up, the HANS device is a big improvement. Oh, and the HANS system does work. I had a diff break a tooth and lock up, taking out a 1/2 shaft down the front straight at Limerock. Quick spin into the wall and a shorter car. I didn't even get a stiff neck from the impact, but my wife sure gave me an ear ache when she saw the car. Good new was I was there to hear it. Got the whole thing on video. into the wall http://s32.beta.photobucket.com/user/harmug/media/into%20the%20wall/IntotheWa llFacebookcut.mp4.html mike G. Michael Harmuth _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 3 16:03:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F22C640537 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 16:03:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22D1403EA for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 16:03:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.202]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E4D211C000088 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 18:00:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mtc004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtc004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.13]) by mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 8F590E000086 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 18:00:27 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net From: billdentin@aol.com Received: from 69.210.132.17 by webmail-d133.sysops.aol.com (149.174.18.23) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 03 Jan 2013 18:00:27 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 18:00:27 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1357254027; bh=03J7Y/Icw1H619GntSt4vnVw3m/rhY5K4t8aWzXgFiA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DnbeBU8zC+lE6X48elFIbggZPFfld+3U94b2PdjMOI9JL4W8u6F1P5kfOQBX/K4V/ +1k1Cz2fTaBzoa48xZx+IaltBkhgF9Ad3qEQDWFnKLHyhUTzX2VhBRvgGU8WkEifCN 2fEH92gOPde24lFJQxDzDeUAcyA+GjNisclwrJSg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33ca50e60d8b4910 Subject: [Fot] TRIUMPH World February/March 2012 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici... My February/March issue of Triumph World arrived today, and has a ton of great articles in it. Part 1 of 2 Kas Kastner Interview (five pages) An article on Spitfire racing in the USA (our own Mark Craig) Why the TR7 had the biggest impact of all Triumph sports cars; Getting a Rover V8 in a Doretti; And about fifteen others...all good stuff... Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 3 19:25:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6634140690 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 19:25:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C7640517 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 19:25:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id jSJY1k00W0FhH24A1eNZbo; Fri, 04 Jan 2013 02:22:33 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id jeNZ1k00P2yr1eL8UeNZWu; Fri, 04 Jan 2013 02:22:33 +0000 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 02:22:33 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Fot@autox.team.net s=q20121106; t=1357266153; bh=gF94MBRF379wjHSk4DHLTzJDqZR7yA/jcDERinpLVd8=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=imgHjcEfIcjtpAyWM6FaHankc2Ljso/kMZLJ+D4/mRs0UREjjb59aKVfeYspW7NKn 4+E0pRneDCmE7EdpTa6a4GGiiXer+qVqf33OmvICljzM1idre+re/+MM3BJGUrPu0j UCfF88nXdXLWHaOhdUKdVvH57QlPiiXn4jWOxBBhKry7qfQaSxY7ZFc9AZ8Emcqmfb 1XHreME7h0hSNTWqRy0FcIEiWcUS8FU49hF51ThsQ6vv85y4IEt7xPpCQk29n9Ocuv ImFu7DxhjfY7dn8A+KBdPb9fjDlGiCttBP+vy7GiW050d5/XmTJxBovF92FX+ogTIg hUt7zdLgx526Q== Subject: [Fot] Great ELVF/Kastner Cup add Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello all, I just wanted to share what I just found in the latest issue of Victory Lane magazine, a fantastic full page add with large photo of 3 racing TR4s in action. In the photo are Sean Alexander, Dennis DeLap and...? Nice exciting shot! See Y'all there and best wishes for a great New Year, Dave H. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 3 19:46:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EDE44226C for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 19:46:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E762403E3 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 19:45:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id jUfr1k0021zF43QACejLeb; Fri, 04 Jan 2013 02:43:20 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id jejK1k0062vctGa8kejKEG; Fri, 04 Jan 2013 02:43:19 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "davehogye" , References: <851749202.1815370.1357266153380.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 18:43:17 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1357267400; bh=GDUcv4QNvLMw9HOnNi1cel7pyVwMcjR+R1Cktb8nHB8=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZcbL6pKzkF05Afi3MApje7D+pjduonMVBE1YAcDuUnRJUx8YUb2keK1ABF+aMCigV 1rXDiiaKqNPg3/1Nqs5h8+Zx9Vwj8+4Yk36o3hh1CYTZ3j7oLhDd0cVa3nYKVuId8z 5Lb5CWvLIKecU7jyhUMCPPfIvNOL/tx6H2NTAL44rdUFs4Af6YwIb7jyNM/KvRTlrC /Qh+3C+P1UrII8rRdSZ1Is4uf9DZOQS1bIUxId9Urw+7pjjKwGIOqtTpnFM+V+a2Wp yAizOkWL3qr11LkPIJ3Oq2aHHwZKf7j8dl7BipWvCxyHG/pqALMeiKkSQ1rjcYoVHy 5Lifpbt9ViWDg== Subject: Re: [Fot] Great ELVF/Kastner Cup add Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net thanks Dave..great photo! RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "davehogye" To: Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 6:22 PM Subject: [Fot] Great ELVF/Kastner Cup add > Hello all, > I just wanted to share what I just found in the latest issue of Victory > Lane magazine, a fantastic full page add with large photo of 3 racing TR4s > in action. > In the photo are Sean Alexander, Dennis DeLap and...? Nice exciting shot! > See Y'all there and best wishes for a great New Year, > Dave H. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 3 20:08:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8703342264 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 20:08:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com (imr-db01.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A046E4052B for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 20:04:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.10]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E745D3800004E; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 22:01:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mse004a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mse004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.77]) by mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id B38F6E000086; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 22:01:49 -0500 (EST) References: <851749202.1815370.1357266153380.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> To: dlhogye@comcast.net, Fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d153.sysops.aol.com (205.188.58.133) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 03 Jan 2013 22:01:49 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 22:01:49 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1357268509; bh=CZcKOfwpNaCdfwzp6tfMZdmr346QENjwp1+nIRFw6uI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tqb40ZkeHNoS933nMsJfQR4WDMBofTLYWOYT8pvf34s3m5shqhehNdL3bhBlAMfRf od5tlm2SoZcJVGfg+L1TNofbfUMmLGK1e2uw76dJHTBHtQubkRtcglMidAwoYFIur1 JhxFQLmgq5jKrZHJanCCNtn1UTDbsccYRMXfqcs0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290a50e6461d5e93 Subject: [Fot] Great ELVF/Kastner Cup ad Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Dave, Yup, that's SEAN, DENNIS, and BOB WISMER. The photo credit goes to Joan DeLap. It has been one of my favorite photographs, for a long time. Apparently, VSCDA has very good taste...... I would vote for this to have on our event shirt, but I have a different vision for the shirt that would involve a more retro theme. We should know more in a couple of weeks.....it's really not up to me. Right now the KCUP 2013 is looking very good, Great photo....thanks JUST JOAN! Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: davehogye To: Fot Sent: Thu, Jan 3, 2013 8:23 pm Subject: [Fot] Great ELVF/Kastner Cup add Hello all, I just wanted to share what I just found in the latest issue of Victory Lane magazine, a fantastic full page add with large photo of 3 racing TR4s in action. In the photo are Sean Alexander, Dennis DeLap and...? Nice exciting shot! See Y'all there and best wishes for a great New Year, Dave H. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 4 13:44:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7DC40E99 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2013 13:44:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E78C40413 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2013 13:41:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 99F7E1C0000FE for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2013 15:39:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mse004a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mse004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.77]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 6F116E000083 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2013 15:39:08 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by Webmail-d120.sysops.aol.com (205.188.108.129) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 04 Jan 2013 15:39:08 -0500 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 15:39:08 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1357331948; bh=ZOoe7MholrawsfCKsUhMwevbtmCQF8+19XvfRiy7efE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dz4BXL6iqodYnpT4coBs6Tk18bxgXLu21KT3lQAft8OVRyg/yLyT7vDtQv4fMZD/o paFhoWjdFNfFMbQp6wv9d2+a8BcHJevVodzQMZDiyFyVh4DOY5aUuXpRYI3xHlzWJh bjBFrvevmd+C6waP3uy2pJ2F4ofbTKI+uHlLlVyw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d50e73dec2272 Subject: [Fot] KCUP 2013 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone have contact information for Robert Stadel? Ambro. Tony Garmey says he will be coming but wont know which cars until JAN/FEB time frame....TR250? Hope so. Hope everyone is doing well with OSTHOFF RESERVATIONS. Lots of three BR suites are reserved as it cost effective. I will be opening up the Osthoff reservations to other groups, like the VTR, as we have a working relationship with them. We will have first pass FOT POSTER by the 15th of January....Steve Belfer. This will likely result in the artwork for the event shirt......Marty Sukey As you know, VSCDA is doing very well with advertising this event. John Houlton, Chair, Jason Ostrowski, Paddock Master, Tim Murphy, and I plan to come in early to rope off paddock area. I am looking for a couple COMMERCIAL sponsors for a couple low dollar features. Any interest? Lots of little details to be worked out but it's coming along. Thanks for all of the support. VSCDA.ORG ROADAMERICA.COM FOT-RACE.COM OSTHOF.COM Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 4 22:33:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A395F40526 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2013 22:33:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f170.google.com (mail-qc0-f170.google.com [209.85.216.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7398540438 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2013 22:33:43 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qc0-f170.google.com with SMTP id d42so9469871qca.1 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2013 21:30:59 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rNn4pQVju/NMokwUSYA6xRZtc2/Jw9oh41BkxYZm42c=; b=YDEzfJntuO7/MmIHeIfXMa4QRnT7Pm/NHV+UDHUvnPYabqbZFaanOM60QbYRtbEd6Y eVXd9FhJ0yhXrLTu89qSxCQznuNJWToNxOBPc+LxsBEStDDA/h2BnO8p0d1fNsNmeT0T Cm6PX2dP02fLgsuyB7k+MjFUU46d3pMGlquYtKFhjSo77iJwIQ6boYLDjq/Q5Um9PAmd casbUoFvjOFtcr1ipSPaGtP7TTqPV1AkHz1qe2DEy64prmrJa6axHlmR0/AQyleWcg8P MzxyLkh/TuTpjvZzbszoPxpW61jTlFvjdWlE0n2PcFLD1Rkw4+I5cq8ysI8HHZmaIoXq O49Q== Received: by 10.224.201.6 with SMTP id ey6mr725009qab.40.1357363859181; Fri, 04 Jan 2013 21:30:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.49.1 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Jan 2013 21:30:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 00:30:59 -0500 From: Jason Sukey To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] GT6 Camshafts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm looking at camshafts for my GT6 and am seeing that most of the 6 cylinder cams are marketed for the TR250 and TR6. Does anyone have any experience with how these behave in the higher revving 2L GT6 engines? Does the same cam act "bigger" in a GT6? Do they act similar? For example, say a certain high performance cam has a peak torque at 4700 rpm and runs out of steam by 6500 rpm in a TR6. If I put the same cam in a GT6 engine (assuming all the other variables are the same), would it "come on" at a higher rpm due to the smaller displacement/ shorter stroke and lower port velocity in the head? Would the shape of the torque curve be similar, only shifted to the right a bit for the GT6? Thanks for any input, Jason Sukey _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 5 08:42:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E17E040526 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 08:42:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224BE40442 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 08:41:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([10.127.143.53]) by cdptpa-qmta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20130105131759656.VXEC341@cdptpa-qmta02.mail.rr.com> for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 13:17:59 +0000 a=PmWnNPWQNMNtOArZ7ovx2w==:17 a=Fi33xz00IUwA:10 a=SYVtqNYTQWwA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=64PQeZJQHAsA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=lGJEPfbM9Et5Fq4vjSAA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=pRCtkj1PG90rl7RY:21 a=HeivXmkf_hNwhn-I:21 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=x1913YZ6tpWQlc-5bCwA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=6EkfpwYiFzOoXPss:21 a=PmWnNPWQNMNtOArZ7ovx2w==:117 Received: from [184.89.74.96] ([184.89.74.96:49502] helo=Davis.local) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id A3/95-05345-7C728E05; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 13:16:56 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2013 08:14:56 -0500 From: Bob Davis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 To: fot@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Camshafts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Send a core cam to Ric Cline. He will machine you a race cam. He has been building a racing GT6's forever. I have an address and phone number if you are interested. Bob On 1/5/13 12:30 AM, Jason Sukey wrote: > I'm looking at camshafts for my GT6 and am seeing that most of the 6 > cylinder cams are marketed for the TR250 and TR6. Does anyone have any > experience with how these behave in the higher revving 2L GT6 engines? > Does the same cam act "bigger" in a GT6? Do they act similar? > > For example, say a certain high performance cam has a peak torque at 4700 > rpm and runs out of steam by 6500 rpm in a TR6. If I put the same cam in a > GT6 engine (assuming all the other variables are the same), would it "come > on" at a higher rpm due to the smaller displacement/ shorter stroke and > lower port velocity in the head? Would the shape of the torque curve be > similar, only shifted to the right a bit for the GT6? > > Thanks for any input, > > Jason Sukey > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rdavis4@cfl.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 5 09:13:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704F64227A for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 09:13:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50AB940324 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 09:13:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.12]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B3C791C0000B1 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 11:10:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-deb003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-deb003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.53.137]) by mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 64815E000088 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 11:10:34 -0500 (EST) References: <50E82750.9070201@cfl.rr.com> To: fot@autox.team.net From: robertten1@aol.com Received: from 96.233.64.253 by webmail-m076.sysops.aol.com (64.12.141.34) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 05 Jan 2013 11:10:34 -0500 Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 11:10:34 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1357402234; bh=0K+a7EwZrX1VyxJvhNDTl8JvJJ4zM/+VCN5HlqOA3a0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wari5G9YvZnpRojGYy5nJOmmtJSDmtHDGKFG/kJmE5Kacvrtk0HYc7p8VJCCOhaQL 9/mKp2fdoyZkyzkgZnnjQVXeTUMRv0Eyulxjk/um2ake98IUhQcqvAxUlmVehnuN7y fvKTd7GX/YJKHp0XtgHxzthvDcuUjTiZNUyv5E2M= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290c50e8507a7213 Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Camshafts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Jason, Ric Cline will be able to answer all your questions and needs. Just tell him your intensions with the GT6 and you might find he already has your particular grind sitting on his shelf. He was very helpfull in my search for my autocrossing Spitfire and very pleased so far with the results. Good luck, Bob T -----Original Message----- From: Bob Davis To: fot Sent: Sat, Jan 5, 2013 10:39 am Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Camshafts Send a core cam to Ric Cline. He will machine you a race cam. He has een building a racing GT6's forever. I have an address and phone number f you are interested. Bob n 1/5/13 12:30 AM, Jason Sukey wrote: I'm looking at camshafts for my GT6 and am seeing that most of the 6 cylinder cams are marketed for the TR250 and TR6. Does anyone have any experience with how these behave in the higher revving 2L GT6 engines? Does the same cam act "bigger" in a GT6? Do they act similar? For example, say a certain high performance cam has a peak torque at 4700 rpm and runs out of steam by 6500 rpm in a TR6. If I put the same cam in a GT6 engine (assuming all the other variables are the same), would it "come on" at a higher rpm due to the smaller displacement/ shorter stroke and lower port velocity in the head? Would the shape of the torque curve be similar, only shifted to the right a bit for the GT6? Thanks for any input, Jason Sukey _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rdavis4@cfl.rr.com ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 5 14:06:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338A440E83 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 14:06:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm32-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm32-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.139]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE2A04041B for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 14:00:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.148] by nm32.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jan 2013 20:57:26 -0000 Received: from [98.139.215.229] by tm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jan 2013 20:57:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1069.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jan 2013 20:57:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 9378 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Jan 2013 20:57:26 -0000 s=s1024; t=1357419446; bh=MAu+51cwKwCmsmQfXyFgiWggRxQdaZ/1aRhpR81A8oo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Zp+pw9L88/jyfz2XX9W+PHESbsWXQDkOFzmV9TIdymt0zhSN1v56hOQzsEdlHuGRO1hHhqsicpSChd8JOcfFiFrcj772DKt+hoayorCvGZOjkiFvFG+kntYg6imfciq8C4eGNtvvvdDwSIUoVcYJKzMWoB5gbAAkE3wSqPJGAM0= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OksE/o75u5liMRdNNGDAbLG5InPWhojQ3QsQ9n3S85K0YeX/iuj5ReI+THPddrNLDn328gk48qYiiPaLbGK4FOz6VhXs0D0UpB747uyJBNzn4W+G6nUcAVj0JHK3FJPlvyWbMeZ/dGWxji4bcepK4i5tRiXB7cjnTVb+u6wpwVg=; 4YUwLHpq8xa_u3krC7uP87W0IDw6WDbTWFw3Ve_5RBNgQ5cbnqdfOJSNREf4 9CCFAgACMoZevTXHregzfheobnqBSnXbnM6yW_mo.ZdTm.mTA98w4MgqlVXF t0uc.ZiZxvJRkVcQarQZ4H6qub_GG3jdNjDkUkzvke3rRZq.ro8By3lzoz24 26bmKnTCU3HQ6cjbqvVxD2q0XknpxScwUF3vKTWKYhAKzqMgag7JqNrryqLR rMpc9KJfFYDijDOh89LtJTPYBJ8s8yJcBm9rvlpTTOzxVvQcRGNJTAXQEixH esikwIXL.KyvH9eMfwoNBzk60Y69JyE_Z5THra82_g.F3ShvGG2Gg6MV6FTQ YZWnw7CyHxq1Epx0D.zPhbDxkPP1TyEHJk7tV.KxBXWl9KWpBV5xxeRd.Fxn aYQ08m8Am8R3ru6sms7hu15BL Received: from [66.192.188.2] by web160904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 12:57:26 PST SSBoYXZlIGJlZW4gZG9pbmcgc29tZSB3b3JrIG9uIHRoZSBUUjQgcmFjZSBjYXIgb3ZlciB0aGUgd2ludGVyIGhlcmUgaW4gdGhlIE5vcnRod2VzdC7CoCBJIGFtIHN3aXRjaGluZyB0byBhbiBINiBjYXJiIHNldCB1cCBmcm9tIHRoZSBIUzYgY2FyYnMgSSBoYWQgdXNlZCB0aGUgbGFzdCAzIHllYXJzIChsb25nIHN0b3J5IG9uIHdoeSAtIHRob3VnaCBJIGhhZCBhIGNhcmIgcHJvYmxlbSB3aGVuIGl0IHdhcyBhIGhlYWQgZ2Fza2V0KS7CoCBJIGFtIGhhdmluZyBwcm9ibGVtcyB3aXRoIHRoZSBwYWNraW5nIGwBMAEBAQE- Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 12:57:26 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Mehl To: Triumph Friends of Subject: [Fot] H6 Gland packing help Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have been doing some work on the TR4 race car over the winter here in the Northwest. I am switching to an H6 carb set up from the HS6 carbs I had used the last 3 years (long story on why - though I had a carb problem when it was a head gasket). I am having problems with the packing leaking around the Jets. The Jets are new from Joe Curto. When initially put the carbs on the car and applied fuel pressure they started dripping. I replaced the new cork packings with the Orings that Moss sells. They leaked as well. So I did some looking on the internet and SU says to soak the cork packings in motor oil. I did that and put the carbs back together after soaking. I had some head work done and finally have the engine all together. I ran the engine today for the first time and the jets are still leaking. Does the leaking go away the carbs have been used awhile? The Jets never actually get used other than to center the needle with no choke linkages. Any ideas would be appriciated. thanks!!! Mike Mehl #46 TR4 - Vancouver Washington _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 5 18:29:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8904040C for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 18:29:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B044040C for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 18:25:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.88]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id kLXz1k0021u4NiLACRNBTE; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 01:22:11 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([24.22.75.60]) by omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id kRN91k00V1J37AG8hRNAPu; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 01:22:11 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2013 17:22:09 -0800 From: Jim Norlin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 To: FOT s=q20121106; t=1357435331; bh=SRcvMJKOkFW6IW132OImRaMivearm12NwPppnNToYCg=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=Xq1Ibkbjv2BuG3AN05d9+QrOkdU4ep+GtaACJX7j61IYyqJvdQ94+AiGLECgTW1pu Zl+0wpZ/1hO8lG0LyYZ10sOkhyJacn+jWkbwvvCjnbX+C2Zqk9LEqxNIS56Jj5/V0F JDl/yZ3uWz4DGC/q4W6MIDesBCnkxyIrNMI469+7NZ0NcSeWNBkNMaH7YuiBql4726 qwHK9fI2SjorvnCXjXtpIhudFrpG0sClwLWBRbEta+x3N64l6ZnCimudtKZzy5nrZW wVVfMKy+cdokxagczSdyNmcumV2J0QFXIt6wrAjJeXXC/eqn00LjhKDUehiKSqKpzP gAe2bpuAoBlOw== Subject: [Fot] New Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Happy New Year FOT. To help you get your thoughts back on racing, I've posted a new video on Youtube. It's from the final race at the Columbia River Classic in Portland. This was Monday afternoon of Labor Day weekend and a lot of the cars had already left for home. Jeff Quick in his TR4 and Gary Silcox in the Elva started at the back for fun. You see them blast by me on lap 2. There's also some good footage of Bill Hart's Devin during the first couple of laps. The video ends early because of the 15 minute time limit on Youtube. I used Dashware to synch my AIM data with the GoPro video. The only problem is the lap count is off since I started the data system in the paddock to watch the temps as I warmed up the car. Every time the data gets turned on and off, it counts as a lap. Need to figure out how to reset it on pregrid. Anyway, enjoy! Jim Norlin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9yt7zJHwSc _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 5 19:31:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DECB440E94 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 19:31:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9078B4040D for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 19:31:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id kSGu1k0040cQ2SLA2SUesL; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 02:28:38 +0000 Received: from locutus ([75.70.96.161]) by omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id kSUZ1k00Z3UuT0T8WSUdY0; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 02:28:37 +0000 From: "Jim Gray" To: "'Jim Norlin'" , "'FOT'" Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 19:17:58 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac3rrPDFzz7rUeZmTGimLjXtgEdfsAABvKEg s=q20121106; t=1357439318; bh=oPO89iJZj0PhOa2JjWTeNSZGzpJ6xG0HOh7pd3mzlQ8=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TYURe4aWoW/U8F+qfQm40/h+LJjNzhDBkTKpNgObW9Q7ZmUTKat4+vSpXrmi4SfHo o+LXSxIFvxZP3D09cQLXdlOC1+vSrVc1+lvm/MPy5iyocLd8K8jy+oZgaMa0dxyAQd 0ZsgB27aLJpA1Mf5KlLs8KOFTeP1Laz9b2hnshySFSUH0F5SMlC/8zIZPAjy7CSc3+ JRoF9GDRwVgBG37JudsknnXiZhCV72kNUJ0Et85APT2qWpcm/8ZvaiUXbGJ7w08axi 705NP0fw0CvSsFv9lhmUv50yBCxyCsc3SmbX1Gbpx/n8IGerh9HbxWO5U9sRpdAeDT 2SuJYlCf6atjg== Subject: Re: [Fot] New Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Well driven Jim, really nice course too. Jim Gray -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Norlin Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 6:22 PM To: FOT Subject: [Fot] New Video Happy New Year FOT. To help you get your thoughts back on racing, I've posted a new video on Youtube. It's from the final race at the Columbia River Classic in Portland. This was Monday afternoon of Labor Day weekend and a lot of the cars had already left for home. Jeff Quick in his TR4 and Gary Silcox in the Elva started at the back for fun. You see them blast by me on lap 2. There's also some good footage of Bill Hart's Devin during the first couple of laps. The video ends early because of the 15 minute time limit on Youtube. I used Dashware to synch my AIM data with the GoPro video. The only problem is the lap count is off since I started the data system in the paddock to watch the temps as I warmed up the car. Every time the data gets turned on and off, it counts as a lap. Need to figure out how to reset it on pregrid. Anyway, enjoy! Jim Norlin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9yt7zJHwSc _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 6 08:36:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D2640E18 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 08:36:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B00403DF for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 08:34:53 -0700 (MST) a=xuSzmQoJ1jvkAIfTlZRNrg==:17 a=bADDkjKAeCQA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=uabm9R0mCREA:10 a=0KL1-j8eiidAZ5FozBMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=VMLPUJHGGmjNVIvekKoA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=xuSzmQoJ1jvkAIfTlZRNrg==:117 Received: from [70.114.170.59] ([70.114.170.59:51193] helo=BlakePC) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 2E/50-15459-1F899E05; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 15:32:01 +0000 From: "Greg & Alison Blake" To: "'Triumph Friends of'" Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 09:31:57 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac3sIusibJlvO+XoT9GsQ4CzvksZJg== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] TR6 hot start problems Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've got a starting problem with the TR6 I care for. The car starts great when cold but after a drive that gets the car up to temp I have an issue with the restart. The hot start problem only occurs if I let the car sit for more than about 10 minutes. Related things I have done to the car: Rebuilt the original carbs - byass and temp compensators are locked out New high torque starter New battery Rebuilt dist - problem persists with more or less advanced static timing. Currently have it set to where I do not get any detonation at load New radiator Removed core plugs and flushed engine - it sat for about 20 years before I got it I've done lots of other work but I think that is all that would be applicable to this particular problem. The car runs right below the halfway mark on the temp gauge and I measured that to be 175-180 F at the cap. I've read that some of the Stromberg carbs have a problem of boiling the fuel out of the floats in conditions like this. I pulled the dash pots last weekend when I had the hot start issue and did not see large amounts of fuel pooling at the throttle disk. How would I diagnosis this condition and what are the solutions other than heat shield? I'll try the coil next just on the chance that it is getting hot and not working as efficiently as it should when hot. Other than that, I am out of ideas. When I do get it to start after sitting about 10 minutes in cool weather, I usually have to hold the throttle about half way to the floor to get it going. This is would leads me to believe it is carb related/too much fuel. Thanks for your suggestions, Greg _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 6 08:41:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2426E40E26 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 08:41:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc2-s27.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s27.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D22840452 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 08:41:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from BAY164-DS4 ([65.54.190.125]) by bay0-omc2-s27.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 6 Jan 2013 07:38:20 -0800 From: "Terry Stetler" To: "'Triumph Friends of'" References: <003801cdec22$fd2165c0$f7643140$@rr.com> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 10:38:19 -0500 Seal-Send-Time: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 10:38:19 -0500 FILETIME=[DAB61930:01CDEC23] Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 hot start problems Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This sounds like the classic Triumph TR series vapor locked mechanical fuel pump, though it could very well be fuel percolation as well. With our truly awful modern ethanol laced fuel this is a common problem, and not just with TRs. I suspect the only real cure will be a properly regulated electric fuel pump. Terry Stetler _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 6 08:51:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A4640E23 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 08:51:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f182.google.com (mail-ia0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8BF40570 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 08:50:31 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ia0-f182.google.com with SMTP id x2so15503700iad.13 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 07:47:39 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=aZazz/c5BrHERrj4OY4cFuuU+PeHLMTm53z1iraxsEY=; b=eDRibPSN4IgWGoTpvSRxjdTCoBRKlB01+hSo5dnNbWVQYMVi25XuMR7iUcF08lGVzN ZyD+FPxtWOFx348QujjhoiwBwi74GLIp51Va4Px22kC0dEHVN8HQAHmS/ZF+zIMEd7QF mfyxQNgiX0/DIRVcQTjwJpgdteHiMquKVr7yO538nN5uMF7uGaYYKbnp7xaHcRqZH3C6 4JJ9zJcC3FwfOxJS0XRj9dg49uMOLn16/9bFFVC+kMWJyQNVcqXNvLx+8oK1BYa2g0kr plbZwOV9Oiqs1UjLcGwUEi37pG0TV3qGKVgeBKlmJLk8sgTfTTylSGvmj+NvxF6Su98t Sn6Q== bj10mr3509657igc.13.1357487259385; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 07:47:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.204.136 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 07:47:39 -0800 (PST) References: <003801cdec22$fd2165c0$f7643140$@rr.com> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 07:47:39 -0800 From: MARKANDGLENDA PENDERGRASS To: Terry Stetler Cc: Triumph Friends of Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 hot start problems Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Make sure the the ignition coil is'nt the culprit.....alot of heat breaks down the internals. Just a thought Mark P On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Terry Stetler wrote: > This sounds like the classic Triumph TR series vapor locked mechanical fuel > pump, though it could very well be > fuel percolation as well. > > With our truly awful modern ethanol laced fuel this is a common problem, > and > not just with TRs. > > I suspect the only real cure will be a properly regulated electric fuel > pump. > > Terry Stetler > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mpendy@dishmail.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 6 09:28:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93A0424BD for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 09:28:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm40-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm40-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.214]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34ED8403D3 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 09:28:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.215.143] by nm40.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2013 16:25:29 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.111] by tm14.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2013 16:25:29 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1016.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2013 16:25:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 96626 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Jan 2013 16:25:28 -0000 s=s1024; t=1357489528; bh=gsTN8W3h8tzLs5fk8AY47BJC/xrKU0pNGg/8RF7Gzn0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Bm5jR0pmeji2WPWFG9pyipOjkuLBkJzfYcyHIM7Bc5J+7P7BiZtg3dAEnLTm0fQbeNrW7110WZmhdoqcGWvoaV3hD3r8jsA6QaSDf4zK3Y5f5UPQCAxmoMrtzxmjUuZuU7RQoCh+u96TEPsaF2IjjhXEHt+6JpzVwU7wEwRXV4g= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BF7nLefkd7ZhBnMyPEemvi/QnxVHBeeRdlO88auRG71tjkTCadT+QFne5nOM5jt8ZoCp5NKOgMXglY+A9LBHC/8ZolFVVVCN5LgmPmtOJ5du/Ex2fzHKQZ48MGgEepZn5y1+qy7iMyUCLCTDjGg5+nV5dcgYt8R5sQhWVnNZ9Ic=; V7J3LWeudlRma1K8HaTqVKTQpP0Il3uu5KgDd1f4YchOIfgXkSpU72_Tg_qM figNkH9vlGLKW0c3jHInMTIBBU_N7dr90IjVOTG5M6sTOvS9D_2uIi42b5Ef 5aKLDnYzEctayQ4XsXbuHEOvx44DPW8uxgAVvZDGt4tH17kZFwy4Yx23Ut0B _tBiiVQvQuxLnCjfUJcbryxE7CLjAmVM1eVq9Vlzt_NQfP9TeRgyYHxQgmND ..vhGRWzmqlRsK2veuLXW2rLXcY1vA2YlMS6kCZ886W1dYu2jaDwaqPvYpQD EIcLUbTXe3iXqakUeME9dDSQtXxQmHniuqSm9o3.0IKMoInr8qBVAhfrFUhU G2kALe1QJoGvuSbrEo_MvNt_Y4QvLsHIL8wejNpVbRn0qL8G35BrvVDtTh6B TpL_3nY2dMQD88GXMqo3sELMqLKE3v.wrPhcQ Received: from [76.221.83.131] by web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 08:25:28 PST SSdtIG5vdCBhIGJpZyBmYW4gb2YgYnV5aW5nIHN0dWZmIG1hZGUgaW4gQ2hpbmEgYnV0IEhhcmJvciBGcmVpZ2h0IGhhcyBhIHNhbGUgaW4gCm15IGFyZWEgb2YgTi4gVGV4YXMgdGhpcyB3ZWVrLi4uLiB0aGUgVS5TLiBHZW5lcmFsIChVLlMuPykgZm91ciBkcmF3ZXIgdG9vbCBjYXJ0IAo1ODBsYiBjYXBhY2l0eSBpcyBhIHJlYWwgZ29vZCBkZWFsIGF0ICQ5OS45OSAgLi4uIEkgdXNlIG9uZSBsaWtlIGl0IGluIG15IGNhciAKaGF1bGVyIC8gZ2FyYWdlLi4gYWxzbyBhIDMgdG9uIGphY2sgc3RhbmQgc2V0IGkBMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 08:25:28 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] Harbor Freight Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm not a big fan of buying stuff made in China but Harbor Freight has a sale in my area of N. Texas this week.... the U.S. General (U.S.?) four drawer tool cart 580lb capacity is a real good deal at $99.99 ... I use one like it in my car hauler / garage.. also a 3 ton jack stand set is $15.99 ... cheap enough if you own several Triumphs like me, one or two is always in the air.. not mentioned but a purchase I made a few months back was a nice set of car dollys.. I've got my Spitwad rolling around in the garage on those... wish I had bought those years ago... you can push the car over into the tightest spaces... Now these are toys for men and women and there has been a bunch of backlash from toys in China painted with lead base paint... but as adults we should know not to lick our Chinese tools... Bobby _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 6 09:41:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B3A424B4 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 09:41:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.162]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A908403E2 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 09:41:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.215.140] by nm19.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2013 16:38:24 -0000 Received: from [98.136.87.25] by tm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2013 16:38:24 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp120-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2013 16:38:24 -0000 s=s1024; t=1357490304; bh=blI0fm/2u62ku/OVRhv7gmgDHXn64ruepgU5Pdw/NMk=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=a8K028NCwojN3dMpFPhb2wVaqwvrSr623yk9NfQ6UNjluiosowH06otSu3/tXSt4glwgqlQyj9mBqTTJpI3riiEyOmnzGOQkvdIy5pGRbwM9OF6ORqUNOzkY+ZL+ijUxV1WN6B19JCdC+goYHllEpUfyijqhr0W8SJwO0IcGTGk= iWskR7TxU0Oi739ZWAa3d8xXXUc5JUGaWtxk_18DmVnzkN8vBnsKTcmRnagz sWX_ukIjh75pKuUOHFW6SDEW.aPkxuvEf9obsni1Aj.06mXC6j0MFYXsa811 .2bLiaXE8oSBfO5a7OAcutv.kjcr7v.BB3pHmgqT4Q2yZfBm6fSce8l.T_zE .jAJ1tG.KYnWwRAA16uPVMQkrsgEmy4mz6oqXR6f8rf2s5RnytbXssGrWafy 3pNBPDMC.WI8TRrNc2Rqo3gfKmtjFCRxWEJ9HBy9kABCBSbc_BsZJI.r7VMI O9epAUeeSmodXZpWJ8x4R6seYgnBU_hIwVAQQdr1HSA.0YOjat17IMhAqhG8 ZE3IUS_nuEcbZ18N0ymuhRlirdA62Zq1FKbb.y3bbdtkHVSudYnhyM92BLeP cz7i5NEw3_G.WukEekHlPnPftd.PUHuRdEBceQajN2CKPD4NDZwIRoff8BRo cptMredfuuTTfTOcSgpphmEzxfwBnL8xtEYcaHzejDUcXCMRm7ocHzfrEzDt JDkaLKHSvPLrCySNo1CxoWjKKFjAj1XNirG8LO4c5WbxSWVIrjN_zqnJUag- - Received: from [192.168.2.9] (tylerpthompson@67.190.144.189 with xymcookie) by smtp120-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 06 Jan 2013 08:38:24 -0800 PST References: <20130106023150.716DB40551@autox.team.net> From: Yahoo Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 09:38:21 -0700 To: Jim Gray Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] New Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hey dude. I am laid up this weekend. Had wrist surgery Friday and been on some good drugs. Loopy is a good word for me. Tu Sent from my iPhone '63 Triumph TR4 DP Race Car ++++ On Jan 5, 2013, at 7:17 PM, "Jim Gray" wrote: > Well driven Jim, really nice course too. > Jim Gray > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Jim Norlin > Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 6:22 PM > To: FOT > Subject: [Fot] New Video > > Happy New Year FOT. To help you get your thoughts back on racing, I've > posted a new video on Youtube. It's from the final race at the Columbia > River Classic in Portland. This was Monday afternoon of Labor Day > weekend and a lot of the cars had already left for home. Jeff Quick in > his TR4 and Gary Silcox in the Elva started at the back for fun. You > see them blast by me on lap 2. There's also some good footage of Bill > Hart's Devin during the first couple of laps. The video ends early > because of the 15 minute time limit on Youtube. > > I used Dashware to synch my AIM data with the GoPro video. The only > problem is the lap count is off since I started the data system in the > paddock to watch the temps as I warmed up the car. Every time the data > gets turned on and off, it counts as a lap. Need to figure out how to > reset it on pregrid. > > Anyway, enjoy! > > Jim Norlin > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9yt7zJHwSc > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tylerpthompson@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 6 09:59:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4557E424DE for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 09:59:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8745D424C5 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 09:59:23 -0700 (MST) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=L1waPfs7q_EA:10 a=WG22TUBDWdpSV45_VFQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55003] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id E0/D3-29976-EBCA9E05; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 16:56:31 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Triumph Friends of'" Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 08:56:31 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac3sIusibJlvO+XoT9GsQ4CzvksZJgAC3Taw Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 hot start problems Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > what > are the solutions other than heat shield? Joe's heat shield did wonders for my TR3, but I guess you knew that. I also recently learned to hold the throttle about 1/3 down while starting (with no choke obviously), which seems to help some, too. -- Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 6 10:13:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2451D4255D for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 10:13:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm1.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm1.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB3C424D6 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 10:13:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.199] by nm1.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2013 17:10:36 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.54] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2013 17:10:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp107.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2013 17:10:36 -0000 nihfWomEwje_IrvMKHexKqq9tmxe2Ysqchi3UmYjyjCTrzdWEycXmWAHHmJ4 BIi5W3A3Y1e0aBbEZanOLL6_gTve0I.I5mfmdsuO3qZhZsbh_8SmVTOATa7P y1WarhvihbpemGoA_He0kDr0OlaXhXE7Ax2zu9mnOp2amm8.VklJRWELajnK V9l_lv98O4YYJiNbC_59pHOkwFIKyizBq586ZVfFSRU_l5LWCgkso1KZEGZ5 dA.p4YtR06dqhECBjZBefEGWpQx.piCLHXb2rdBSgz9eAirs3NlZxVtvEKDV eFABC0F7.3u4hsPGp_X6gQWobCeuw2nHRaAps7aBTZA0aMZQfaeHizsXPEKX bkLYvXYNzigZSdjBnskrkJTIE59ZnS5HS7m3PqnFPwMpgEMxKZtLPdbozE1b vt4oaJZjG3BqIuu2DtbhO0atiF2EIWhOFjn1UHiEk6LTE2TPN9UUAcsYY45U tjxLj3QCIzbQGPq3jiFZqYmuHzMHrOxP27qRh5bR.fHd0.t5wqlOsPn.hV2g xOnK1kz2eqxmSe1V7Zpy9IL8UtqvKgq59ETlM3rk1XQ-- Received: from [192.168.1.77] (cartravel@99.98.59.54 with plain) by smtp107.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 06 Jan 2013 09:10:35 -0800 PST Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2013 11:10:35 -0600 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 To: FOT@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Camshafts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I can't tell you how the power curves would compare, but generally, if you have a motor which is capable of higher revs you will want to use a cam with more duration, i.e. valve open longer. I beat this subject to death at my website http://tildentechnologies.com/. In my opinion, for a 7 to 8,000 RPM motor you probably want at least 260 degrees duration at 0.050 lift. What kind of cams are the other hot GT6 racers running? Larry Young On 1/4/2013 11:30 PM, Jason Sukey wrote: > I'm looking at camshafts for my GT6 and am seeing that most of the 6 > cylinder cams are marketed for the TR250 and TR6. Does anyone have any > experience with how these behave in the higher revving 2L GT6 engines? > Does the same cam act "bigger" in a GT6? Do they act similar? > > For example, say a certain high performance cam has a peak torque at 4700 > rpm and runs out of steam by 6500 rpm in a TR6. If I put the same cam in a > GT6 engine (assuming all the other variables are the same), would it "come > on" at a higher rpm due to the smaller displacement/ shorter stroke and > lower port velocity in the head? Would the shape of the torque curve be > similar, only shifted to the right a bit for the GT6? > > Thanks for any input, > > Jason Sukey > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel@pobox.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 6 10:26:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A246E4257E for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 10:26:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com (imr-db02.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D62F54252C for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 10:26:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 776ED1C00015A; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 12:23:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mtd005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtd005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.209]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1FF03E000085; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 12:23:47 -0500 (EST) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 12:23:47 -0500 (EST) To: TR3driver@ca.rr.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1357493027; bh=uU8Lww8rghQoAL3oi1ecjEIe2zRLw4apgMVfwOofiM0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UafHZG76IRVw4BwyuQQ9FEpciVVrX+NWzekwzcSv7Z95G7plwTPni7DZMKdfxlgE4 x4125HFJU88rmUarCZxj6peYevsGXEgEQeckPD66jlpthofV8thohUG0h9HvN4moyE /wa6xs6Zbz6adJLvs0H9Xfjg/fSlY6jeiJDu4IZ8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c50e9b3233e7e Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 hot start problems Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 01/06/2013 10:56:38 AM Central Standard Time, TR3driver@ca.rr.com writes: > > what > > are the solutions other than heat shield? > > Joe's heat shield did wonders for my TR3, but I guess you knew that. I > also > recently learned to hold the throttle about 1/3 down while starting (with > no > choke obviously), which seems to help some, too. > I used to have big problems restarting my 'HOT' early TR3 (SU carbs) after enduro pit stops, red flag stops, etc. But these 'HOT' restarting problems went away after (at Henry Frye's suggestion) I put my electric fuel pump on a switch. Thereafter when the car was 'HOT' I would turn off the fuel pump, count to ten, before turning off the engine. Have not had a 'HOT' engine starting problem since. Even when coming back to the paddock after a track session, I now turn off the fuel pump, count to ten, before turning off the engine. If I do that, no problem restarting the 'HOT' race car in my paddock either. Not sure how this relates to Stromberg carbs. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 6 10:45:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6929042577 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 10:45:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com (imr-db02.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3329B42555 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 10:44:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 662FA1C0000C3; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 12:42:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msb002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msb002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.133]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 2E7D8E00008B; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 12:42:07 -0500 (EST) From: N197TR4@cs.com Full-name: N197TR4 Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 12:42:06 -0500 (EST) To: TR3driver@ca.rr.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1357494127; bh=We/PsRWRKlXfyyfLKIBPKpvqZGzinkDkrrT4fTksbAY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Cw03P/AUsj0BN0uspYfFD720mVj36yQk8VgVlEKk6UpE6Fu9ynADe76pfy6OvA93Q hkBkB06R2bK6OWy6sXerplzO3TBzKo+XdkpV/MoLX9bwb8murVfh60nS9TaiWeNiG/ oYe4SnLo/cCcJhtaXd7SZYKw9ZUUG2zZDf6vpVpg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294850e9b76f6a75 Subject: [Fot] TR6 hot start problems A.R.E HEATSHIELDS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe's heat shield did wonders for my TR3, but I guess you knew that. I also recently learned to hold the throttle about 1/3 down while starting (with no choke obviously), which seems to help some, too. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------- My contention is that street TRIUMPHS need heatshields more than race cars because of heat buildup and quality of gas. Jack & I made up aluminum heatshields for our race cars. Then I reprocessed then into a design in a superior stainless steel material and on production equipment, with the help of Jack and Irv Korey....and Sean Alexander. They are well distributed by TRF, Moss, Victoria British, and we do an exclusive one for GoodParts. Still there is no guarantee that this will cure the problem of hard starts if there are other issues. But cool fuel is always a good idea, eh? > > > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 6 11:30:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4D7425A4 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 11:30:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A23640E9F for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 11:30:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id khFT1k00F0EPchoA1iTmsM; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 18:27:46 +0000 Received: from locutus ([75.70.96.161]) by omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id kiTi1k00S3UuT0T8MiTmm7; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 18:27:46 +0000 From: "Jim Gray" To: "'Bobby Whitehead'" , "'FoT Triumph'" Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 11:17:17 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac3sKnpnJ6tTcFIkTnau3v0B0B0wKAADy56Q s=q20121106; t=1357496866; bh=rNaSW7eeIRJDI/vFf4WwNaHpyiBe4CBf5N49D/XPSLI=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nmlMt0dCokirIDSyNpt3LvhhXrNLloYI7uNu3mMaCYdVsIAYL71FP2c6ME64WwEXy CGWzjlVgzJrhVPxdLXK4JG6kdhvCm72hek0xtktuooVjAH6AEJLLY1DHSfcGzdVIDM CrAwJGkNa8MqTK33cFf3BAWwVJbClcB7XPFuoGyOhYiZYzKyV4z9QYMiszM4zvz5Sb zsYCq7cchVxGMSW+EPDGwDzjqD5VWCgJIqO/xgb067gPzP0cLWAGcWC14dbIgXLPQD ZxjbdN54DQwBI3G1Di0KaGYaVGinJEie65wwzjGSWVnLM8zWKGiJ5qms0uGMHKKSqJ +m3288scOtKEw== Subject: Re: [Fot] Harbor Freight Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net " but as adults we should know not to lick our Chinese tools..." Bobby you crack me up :) I pledge to practice safe mechanics and not lick my Chinese tools. Jim g -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bobby Whitehead Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 9:25 AM To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] Harbor Freight I'm not a big fan of buying stuff made in China but Harbor Freight has a sale in my area of N. Texas this week.... the U.S. General (U.S.?) four drawer tool cart 580lb capacity is a real good deal at $99.99 ... I use one like it in my car hauler / garage.. also a 3 ton jack stand set is $15.99 ... cheap enough if you own several Triumphs like me, one or two is always in the air.. not mentioned but a purchase I made a few months back was a nice set of car dollys.. I've got my Spitwad rolling around in the garage on those... wish I had bought those years ago... you can push the car over into the tightest spaces... Now these are toys for men and women and there has been a bunch of backlash from toys in China painted with lead base paint... but as adults we should know not to lick our Chinese tools... Bobby _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 6 11:36:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C82425B5 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 11:36:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm28-vm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm28-vm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.216.167]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D21424BC for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 11:35:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.137.12.62] by nm28.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2013 18:33:03 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.82] by tm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2013 18:33:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2013 18:33:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 77553 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Jan 2013 18:33:02 -0000 s=s1024; t=1357497182; bh=u/UqJL23Nb0H774wiSCQFpXfSzjnkU4v7wTOFyimAiw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fKQcwKtgkidiA+pT1x6abNRa4OuLiST6NbRBDHRfoJgD76RyealGkJVDm1qoc9SBu8Mw7QVubQHDd7wxC4h4gY0ZQ98Hflgd3QFrYzGET8YtpbMwzPGqRraf5/6JWWaa+MBwFjVsArV0IwMVBRrDFBIlzhDsMb139c2MDQImz0w= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CEqU0Hd7x+NzcWjjy5ppfKYthyrGI8INSwxdsS/QFadYTKQdo7BGgA5JkjucLfATOrX7Fbgcv61gAVZRTSlq0hlKy07u1ClwncBcQSdJugyQQtYEXbYrttQZBxnDJxuCj3WW/T3isYcUiaUsBLMVsNF4zPJ8ugx3VI0Huq/vgvQ=; BUje6Siy_OIgg6aaxiK38MGTqafV5S5GrpzVMCPiiFEoDlxVfqCGYCPC1dMi vgaCZOvTV7MV54B7pDM0rb.Wh7WfFDKhWjV4ZYQLxTLqJFb1iTSXOnafUo_q cPpIOJ2M4mBztRbVBQiG7qiZUKfiOAXwEuZSEy_h_3SB2RNCl2b1z8Sqttkg gUyQCdGnBvbPjHAGBmwgfA1.jTO6XX5VmiT8Am1VuYD0h87PWmZFimtG6RWD EqyYYKGnC3ah4dp5ZQNEP8VtEJfNyk6nvPODxmZ4OA3zvCZ65p2zUqvO_u8C cCGTr2qRn7zZnPgPLP5h_.5TFSMb.FIT9VZYrC2Cfsm8PHSSQEAEWqbMKjaQ XnlXqtbUZsi6r1Vyw0e.H3DARodbvP2mBbhJ7DLIapHhtuVwH.zxxV9wL5oa yEp0mSuGRK8HawP5T8.9Ow_TCpZxxhQMtSZO5XjcnNZzBqyJZz46PYdqtZrY 8WeojPOsF3Q.YwJrRVg-- Received: from [99.60.75.95] by web184803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 10:33:02 PST U291bmRzIGxpa2UgdGhlIGNvaWwgdG8gbWUuCgoKCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwpGcm9tOiBHcmVnICYgQWxpc29uIEJsYWtlIDxhYmxha2UyQGF1c3Rpbi5yci5jb20.ClRvOiBUcml1bXBoIEZyaWVuZHMgb2YgPGZvdEBhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldD4KU2VudDogU3VuLCBKYW51YXJ5IDYsIDIwMTMgNzozMzozNiBBTQpTdWJqZWN0OiBbRm90XSBUUjYgaG90IHN0YXJ0IHByb2JsZW1zCgpJJ3ZlIGdvdCBhIHN0YXJ0aW5nIHByb2JsZW0gd2l0aCB0aGUgVFI2IEkgY2FyZSBmb3IuwqABMAEBAQE- References: <003801cdec22$fd2165c0$f7643140$@rr.com> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 10:33:02 -0800 (PST) From: sherry robyn To: Greg & Alison Blake , Triumph Friends of Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 hot start problems Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sounds like the coil to me. ________________________________ From: Greg & Alison Blake To: Triumph Friends of Sent: Sun, January 6, 2013 7:33:36 AM Subject: [Fot] TR6 hot start problems I've got a starting problem with the TR6 I care for. The car starts great when cold but after a drive that gets the car up to temp I have an issue with the restart. The hot start problem only occurs if I let the car sit for more than about 10 minutes. Related things I have done to the car: Rebuilt the original carbs - byass and temp compensators are locked out New high torque starter New battery Rebuilt dist - problem persists with more or less advanced static timing. Currently have it set to where I do not get any detonation at load New radiator Removed core plugs and flushed engine - it sat for about 20 years before I got it I've done lots of other work but I think that is all that would be applicable to this particular problem. The car runs right below the halfway mark on the temp gauge and I measured that to be 175-180 F at the cap. I've read that some of the Stromberg carbs have a problem of boiling the fuel out of the floats in conditions like this. I pulled the dash pots last weekend when I had the hot start issue and did not see large amounts of fuel pooling at the throttle disk. How would I diagnosis this condition and what are the solutions other than heat shield? I'll try the coil next just on the chance that it is getting hot and not working as efficiently as it should when hot. Other than that, I am out of ideas. When I do get it to start after sitting about 10 minutes in cool weather, I usually have to hold the throttle about half way to the floor to get it going. This is would leads me to believe it is carb related/too much fuel. Thanks for your suggestions, Greg _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sherryjimmy6116@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 6 12:50:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FCD4427CF for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 12:50:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810B5406B6 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 12:50:41 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=CN7iaAE4vMfhX93aqaL8iw==:17 a=tEhJHQc3j60A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=L1waPfs7q_EA:10 a=AAvYLDLOAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=FYb-QRIDN-OOpH9D7QwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=s2loLT2QvaoA:10 a=CN7iaAE4vMfhX93aqaL8iw==:117 Received: from [166.137.123.214] ([166.137.123.214:63459] helo=[10.141.123.85]) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id F1/D8-16644-3E4D9E05; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 19:47:49 +0000 References: <003801cdec22$fd2165c0$f7643140$@rr.com> From: Bob Kramer Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 13:47:37 -0600 To: Terry Stetler Cc: Triumph Friends of Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 hot start problems Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Greg Does the girl line have any crud in it ? It would be easy to believe there rust, varnish and the like. I had one car that needed a new fuel line. I tried very hard to clean the old one but it appeared that the restrictions enabled the vapor lock issues. You can substitute a temporary rubber fuel line from tank to pump to see if it helps. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 6, 2013, at 9:38 AM, "Terry Stetler" wrote: > This sounds like the classic Triumph TR series vapor locked mechanical fuel > pump, though it could very well be > fuel percolation as well. > > With our truly awful modern ethanol laced fuel this is a common problem, and > not just with TRs. > > I suspect the only real cure will be a properly regulated electric fuel pump. > > Terry Stetler > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 6 13:29:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11FC7427F1 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 13:29:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84CEF425C5 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 13:27:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130106202412.DYAF6169.mta11.charter.net@imp09>; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 15:24:12 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([24.231.194.49]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id kkQB1k00114R4eo05kQBau; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 15:24:12 -0500 a=pqI+vdes0DpKFPsz35vwQA==:17 a=OvIMvpSEN2sA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=L1waPfs7q_EA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=GpQGTGlJVIyyGDKB2ekA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=pqI+vdes0DpKFPsz35vwQA==:117 Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2013 15:24:00 -0500 From: Glenn Franco User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 To: Greg & Alison Blake , Friends of triumph References: <003801cdec22$fd2165c0$f7643140$@rr.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 hot start problems Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Greg As dumb or simple as it may sound, try switching your gas station. I don't know where you live but the switch was on to winter blended fuels which would have a higher reed vapor pressure and more likely to boil or vapor lock. I take car of more than a dozen guys cars here locally (Southeast Michigan) and haven't had much of an issue with the problem. About half of those. I have rebuilt the carbs, replaced the vacuum valves but kept the hot idle compensator's intact. I have had fuel injected cars run into the same problems when the % alcohol content is too high. Remember they add more alcohol as a cheaper way to raise octane on pump fuel. Glenn On 1/6/2013 10:31 AM, Greg & Alison Blake wrote: > I've got a starting problem with the TR6 I care for. The car starts great > when cold but after a drive that gets the car up to temp I have an issue > with the restart. The hot start problem only occurs if I let the car sit > for more than about 10 minutes. Related things I have done to the car: > > Rebuilt the original carbs - byass and temp compensators are locked out > > New high torque starter > > New battery > > Rebuilt dist - problem persists with more or less advanced static timing. > Currently have it set to where I do not get any detonation at load > > New radiator > > Removed core plugs and flushed engine - it sat for about 20 years before I > got it > > I've done lots of other work but I think that is all that would be > applicable to this particular problem. > > The car runs right below the halfway mark on the temp gauge and I measured > that to be 175-180 F at the cap. > > > > I've read that some of the Stromberg carbs have a problem of boiling the > fuel out of the floats in conditions like this. I pulled the dash pots last > weekend when I had the hot start issue and did not see large amounts of fuel > pooling at the throttle disk. How would I diagnosis this condition and what > are the solutions other than heat shield? I'll try the coil next just on > the chance that it is getting hot and not working as efficiently as it > should when hot. Other than that, I am out of ideas. > > > > When I do get it to start after sitting about 10 minutes in cool weather, I > usually have to hold the throttle about half way to the floor to get it > going. This is would leads me to believe it is carb related/too much fuel. > > > > Thanks for your suggestions, > > > > Greg > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gaf3@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 6 13:30:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E8FF427FB for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 13:30:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1623B425C5 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 13:28:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id kk0L1k0020x6nqcAFkRwM7; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 20:25:56 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([24.22.75.60]) by omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id kkRv1k00B1J37AG8YkRwK2; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 20:25:56 +0000 Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2013 12:25:54 -0800 From: Jim Norlin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <003801cdec22$fd2165c0$f7643140$@rr.com> s=q20121106; t=1357503956; bh=hBQHKtIQp6rm26+st1z3vGjZ/AiKEbcLJMzkEJXTz14=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=GWbAOsEWCQm3yqOunJXBXHPs+ROcJPPSf21EUl9cQ0Xpg+yj0kmR8OPw1TMM22Nqv D4olWzB5O6TRs7x3ugfW2p2rdFMfhMSvmgvPwK0I1JqyqvyZNqOwglyuvX2yXpGPyK UXwOiuIkKydeWO0E0ihAFz+gLhrFXZixmJv56yqrQbVwfGUQwJWmVliA2bbcY72Qto qWRgGuTcrNvl8S8j2gO1JAcfE242IeQSl2tD/LO9DrAhQ3pkK7P0HkGtGn7HU00e0W vV5XE+uP4dYWzpw5CDcIinS9wesz6axdqi7nwCpwG5A/NWdjcGZpVbTInAsVzSvQhc oJs/7jBjm3miw== Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 hot start problems Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I had similar problems with my racing Spit. Wouldn't restart after the engine heat soaked. The only way to get it to restart was to pour cold water on the intake manifold to cool it. After I had the carbs (SU's) rebuilt, the problem totally went away. The throttle shafts and throttle body were worn and apparently there was too much air leakage. This was verified when we put the car on the chassis dyno last spring. The only thing changed was the rebuilt carbs, and we had to lean them out significantly to get the car to run right. Gained about 2 hp. On 1/6/2013 7:31 AM, Greg & Alison Blake wrote: > I've got a starting problem with the TR6 I care for. The car starts great > when cold but after a drive that gets the car up to temp I have an issue > with the restart. The hot start problem only occurs if I let the car sit > for more than about 10 minutes. Related things I have done to the car: > > Rebuilt the original carbs - byass and temp compensators are locked out > > New high torque starter > > New battery > > Rebuilt dist - problem persists with more or less advanced static timing. > Currently have it set to where I do not get any detonation at load > > New radiator > > Removed core plugs and flushed engine - it sat for about 20 years before I > got it > > I've done lots of other work but I think that is all that would be > applicable to this particular problem. > > The car runs right below the halfway mark on the temp gauge and I measured > that to be 175-180 F at the cap. > > > > I've read that some of the Stromberg carbs have a problem of boiling the > fuel out of the floats in conditions like this. I pulled the dash pots last > weekend when I had the hot start issue and did not see large amounts of fuel > pooling at the throttle disk. How would I diagnosis this condition and what > are the solutions other than heat shield? I'll try the coil next just on > the chance that it is getting hot and not working as efficiently as it > should when hot. Other than that, I am out of ideas. > > > > When I do get it to start after sitting about 10 minutes in cool weather, I > usually have to hold the throttle about half way to the floor to get it > going. This is would leads me to believe it is carb related/too much fuel. > > > > Thanks for your suggestions, > > > > Greg > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/norlinengineering@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 6 14:02:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F6F4280E for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 14:02:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A65BE427DA for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 14:02:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6BC111C0000C5 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 15:59:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msb002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msb002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.133]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4161FE000085 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 15:59:34 -0500 (EST) References: <5ad.1c7adce6.3e1b116e@cs.com> To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d024.sysops.aol.com (205.188.181.18) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 06 Jan 2013 15:59:33 -0500 Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 15:59:34 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1357505974; bh=jzXDSB7EsKiMvfoTHtkn4GY631g6SqBKYNqpjRjJ+PE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=or0WylcEGjvbwcNekuOMSeWiNF/XodyG1ZLXsxE/EV/mjM7qWML3B5Njfc7UR3g6c ew2ObHOQHCLSuasFNxXJe/yo5jlMFog88Zkl2xhVqoegZ6hNjqtynicQ5AXGBLVkGb axFd8r0EmqksuBY076px7vXKfEXKmYnp1qp5Z1mQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c750e9e5b63b1f Subject: [Fot] Fwd: TR6 hot start problems A.R.E HEATSHIELDS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe's heat shield did wonders for my TR3, but I guess you knew that. I also recently learned to hold the throttle about 1/3 down while starting (with no choke obviously), which seems to help some, too. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------- My contention is that street TRIUMPHS need heatshields more than race cars because of heat buildup and quality of gas. Jack & I made up aluminum heatshields for our race cars. Then I reprocessed then into a design in a superior stainless steel material and on production equipment, with the help of Jack and Irv Korey....and Sean Alexander. They are well distributed by TRF, Moss, Victoria British, and we do an exclusive one for GoodParts. Still there is no guarantee that this will cure the problem of hard starts if there are other issues. But cool fuel is always a good idea, eh? > > > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 6 14:19:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA93A427D7 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 14:19:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo101.cox.net (fed1rmfepo101.cox.net [68.230.241.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B21424BC for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 14:19:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from fed1rmimpo109 ([68.230.241.158]) by fed1rmfepo101.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20130106211623.ZISV15828.fed1rmfepo101.cox.net@fed1rmimpo109> for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 16:16:23 -0500 Received: from Vista ([68.110.89.224]) by fed1rmimpo109 with cox id klGP1k0034qRjhw01lGPDY; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 16:16:23 -0500 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=L1waPfs7q_EA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=AAvYLDLOAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=8WCHLp3AjLsg7Blq1HcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=s2loLT2QvaoA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=E7JY6RlV51Lb7ZLv:21 a=R4GPIQF4NCVpA7ca:21 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: "'Bob Kramer'" , "'Terry Stetler'" References: <003801cdec22$fd2165c0$f7643140$@rr.com> <77D2D49E-E94C-495A-BCE6-BB28B632C236@austin.rr.com> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 14:16:22 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac3sRsDKZqD0prd8Rn+/tJlLP9XUtwADDdqg Cc: 'Triumph Friends of' Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 hot start problems Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net "Girl" line? Is this an auto correction feature of your I Phone? Joe C. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Kramer Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 12:48 PM To: Terry Stetler Cc: Triumph Friends of Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 hot start problems Greg Does the girl line have any crud in it ? It would be easy to believe there rust, varnish and the like. I had one car that needed a new fuel line. I tried very hard to clean the old one but it appeared that the restrictions enabled the vapor lock issues. You can substitute a temporary rubber fuel line from tank to pump to see if it helps. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 6, 2013, at 9:38 AM, "Terry Stetler" wrote: > This sounds like the classic Triumph TR series vapor locked mechanical fuel > pump, though it could very well be > fuel percolation as well. > > With our truly awful modern ethanol laced fuel this is a common problem, and > not just with TRs. > > I suspect the only real cure will be a properly regulated electric fuel pump. > > Terry Stetler > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 6 16:35:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F444284F for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 16:35:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C25426BF for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 16:35:27 -0700 (MST) a=F7LWL4Wnv9p2p4efJzjc/w==:17 a=9XOHBX1n8dsA:10 a=_VMhHR5JeOMA:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=3PsSj0fzqAcA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=nJSry0rjpf-tUEjjRTcA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=F7LWL4Wnv9p2p4efJzjc/w==:117 Received: from [173.88.251.65] ([173.88.251.65:55535] helo=UserTHINK) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 20/A6-29976-1990AE05; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 23:32:34 +0000 From: "Jerry Van Vlack" To: , "Joe Alexander" References: <5ad.1c7adce6.3e1b116e@cs.com> <8CFBA67DD4291ED-1BE8-179B0@webmail-d024.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 18:32:43 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: TR6 hot start problems A.R.E HEATSHIELDS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe's Heat Shield solved issues with my 4A as well. They are especially useful if the engine driven fan is replaced by an electric fan. In slow traffic or in stopped traffic there is not a sufficient amount of air being moved until the electric fan kicks in which could be a few minutes or longer. That's enough time for the exhaust manifold to radiate a lot of heat up and under the carb float bowls. An excellent improvement for our cars, well designed and manufactured, perfect fit too. JVV -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 3:59 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Fwd: TR6 hot start problems A.R.E HEATSHIELDS Joe's heat shield did wonders for my TR3, but I guess you knew that. I also recently learned to hold the throttle about 1/3 down while starting (with no choke obviously), which seems to help some, too. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------- My contention is that street TRIUMPHS need heatshields more than race cars because of heat buildup and quality of gas. Jack & I made up aluminum heatshields for our race cars. Then I reprocessed then into a design in a superior stainless steel material and on production equipment, with the help of Jack and Irv Korey....and Sean Alexander. They are well distributed by TRF, Moss, Victoria British, and we do an exclusive one for GoodParts. Still there is no guarantee that this will cure the problem of hard starts if there are other issues. But cool fuel is always a good idea, eh? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 6 18:00:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A45A42846 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 18:00:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail176c2.megamailservers.com (mail176c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99AED40EBD for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 18:00:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.226.155.166] (115.sub-174-252-154.myvzw.com [174.252.154.115]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail176c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r070vVhT000391 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 6 Jan 2013 19:57:33 -0500 References: <5ad.1c7adce6.3e1b116e@cs.com> <8CFBA67DD4291ED-1BE8-179B0@webmail-d024.sysops.aol.com> <73960577B9A8473580EA5E3611B67443@UserTHINK> From: John Hasty Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 19:57:30 -0500 To: Jerry Van Vlack a=_VMhHR5JeOMA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=I1eCr3lme2zT5p5Pa6H4hQ==:17 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=f2KAtV8F5XqxxS3QRXYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=0vUscowIxtUA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=I1eCr3lme2zT5p5Pa6H4hQ==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: TR6 hot start problems A.R.E HEATSHIELDS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ceramic coating of the exhaust header reduces the heat by 35%. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 6, 2013, at 6:32 PM, "Jerry Van Vlack" wrote: > Joe's Heat Shield solved issues with my 4A as well. They are especially useful if the engine driven fan is replaced by an electric fan. In slow traffic or in stopped traffic there is not a sufficient amount of air being moved until the electric fan kicks in which could be a few minutes or longer. That's enough time for the exhaust manifold to radiate a lot of heat up and under the carb float bowls. An excellent improvement for our cars, well designed and manufactured, perfect fit too. > > JVV > > -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 3:59 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Fwd: TR6 hot start problems A.R.E HEATSHIELDS > > Joe's heat shield did wonders for my TR3, but I guess you knew that. I also > recently learned to hold the throttle about 1/3 down while starting (with no > choke obviously), which seems to help some, too. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------------------- > > My contention is that street TRIUMPHS need heatshields more than race cars > because of heat buildup and quality of gas. > > Jack & I made up aluminum heatshields for our race cars. Then I > reprocessed then into a design in a superior stainless steel material and on > production equipment, with the help of Jack and Irv Korey....and Sean > Alexander. > > They are well distributed by TRF, Moss, Victoria British, and we do an > exclusive one for GoodParts. > > Still there is no guarantee that this will cure the problem of hard starts > if there are other issues. But cool fuel is always a good idea, eh? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 6 21:18:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57205428AB for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 21:18:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D613E42889 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 21:18:11 -0700 (MST) a=xuSzmQoJ1jvkAIfTlZRNrg==:17 a=bADDkjKAeCQA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=L1waPfs7q_EA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=AAvYLDLOAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=8WCHLp3AjLsg7Blq1HcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=s2loLT2QvaoA:10 a=xuSzmQoJ1jvkAIfTlZRNrg==:117 Received: from [70.114.170.59] ([70.114.170.59:51699] helo=BlakePC) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 40/85-01424-4DB4AE05; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 04:15:17 +0000 From: "Greg & Alison Blake" To: "'Bob Kramer'" References: <003801cdec22$fd2165c0$f7643140$@rr.com> <77D2D49E-E94C-495A-BCE6-BB28B632C236@austin.rr.com> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 22:15:23 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac3sRsiK+kjoBM0OTKKpujmaEns+TQARih6g Content-Language: en-us Cc: 'Triumph Friends of' Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 hot start problems Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Don't know about the Girl Line, but the fuel line is new from tank to the rebuilt pump. The line from the pump to the carbs is still the old line. I've been looking at the old cruddy line from the pump to the front carb and thinking I should replace it. While I am at it, is there a better routing for the TR6 fuel line than right under the water pump? Greg -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Kramer Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 1:48 PM To: Terry Stetler Cc: Triumph Friends of Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 hot start problems Greg Does the girl line have any crud in it ? It would be easy to believe there rust, varnish and the like. I had one car that needed a new fuel line. I tried very hard to clean the old one but it appeared that the restrictions enabled the vapor lock issues. You can substitute a temporary rubber fuel line from tank to pump to see if it helps. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 6, 2013, at 9:38 AM, "Terry Stetler" wrote: > This sounds like the classic Triumph TR series vapor locked mechanical > fuel pump, though it could very well be fuel percolation as well. > > With our truly awful modern ethanol laced fuel this is a common > problem, and > not just with TRs. > > I suspect the only real cure will be a properly regulated electric > fuel pump. > > Terry Stetler > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 6 22:17:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EAD2428AB for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 22:17:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDB642284 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 22:17:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1EFCA1C00006D; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 00:14:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dle004a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dle004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.166.141]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E7E9AE000082; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 00:14:24 -0500 (EST) From: Catpusher@aol.com Full-name: Catpusher Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 00:14:23 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1357535665; bh=krLwI7yVmjhb5Xqa/pfMU5S7eJ9+cfeszrh7WF/SfVE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WQFlLw8bHdxaxM02solzAwCiqSGeF0qwVTPiTMvXHcxG/zIFZvR2tsURt2NNm0dev GocIDtasJRhqq2enWyTycfG5/87RA4m3Og0Cg+sPlxjszGqlydOO6OmEmiQmxrTfut oqGyB0gIfG0QUG4RVYO5zIR+OMJ7vuZ3/Tg7KRcE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b50ea59b05221 Subject: Re: [Fot] H6 Gland packing help Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mike, I used to get great comments from the SF SCCA inspectors about my TR3's SUs not leaking. I used liberal amounts of petroleum jelly with the cork seals. Have you checked the jet outside surfaces and diameters for scratches or other issues that could hurt the seals? Even new parts need to be checked. Are you certain that the leaks are from the jet OD? Please be advised that when I went from the H6 to the HS6 the change was beyond track tuning in the limited amount of time available during a National weekend for a very modified motor. I had the complete H6 system to reinstall, and did for that weekend. The center pull linkage for the butterfly shafts of the HS6 is much more reliable in my experience, and we did get them to work very well. TR Regards, Hardy In a message dated 1/6/2013 8:57:02 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, fot-request@autox.team.net writes: From: Mike Mehl To: Triumph Friends of Subject: [Fot] H6 Gland packing help Message-ID: <1357419446.9152.YahooMailNeo@web160904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I have been doing some work on the TR4 race car over the winter here in the Northwest. I am switching to an H6 carb set up from the HS6 carbs I had used the last 3 years (long story on why - though I had a carb problem when it was a head gasket). I am having problems with the packing leaking around the Jets. The Jets are new from Joe Curto. When initially put the carbs on the car and applied fuel pressure they started dripping. I replaced the new cork packings with the Orings that Moss sells. They leaked as well. So I did some looking on the internet and SU says to soak the cork packings in motor oil. I did that and put the carbs back together after soaking. I had some head work done and finally have the engine all together. I ran the engine today for the first time and the jets are still leaking. Does the leaking go away the carbs have been used awhile? The Jets never actually get used other than to center the needle with no choke linkages. Any ideas would be appriciated. thanks!!! Mike Mehl #46 TR4 - Vancouver Washington _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 7 06:08:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47FB942900 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 06:08:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f182.google.com (mail-qc0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1722428C9 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 06:07:52 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k19so12392829qcs.13 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 05:04:56 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=cPt9cl7TVCC8A6xLhc9nvKP00EezpC8Sb0fNNsJ2boo=; b=hw+qoeGt4//fj1A2+sS3O+T8xzpwdy4E78WeNiB7ILQ9LrxED7CkaipkBftQsYqjKe 8Ixkoe/44M+hztPOW4IM1BUM4kgAvA75f0rdGfOhGpbG8gFS8VW6paJWtRxr8iNBIDnr CBDahdSGIrMramhCKBuz8HUM6C2Mjl3OV9adsSoF6/kJqY8ePjcF9KEbJcmSCYYgsZrq 31YZn0oZRZXJ9OEaJ3Ftgh7lZ4RYpK8ht5BxvgKfqTzHKYsuuZtTZ2Tr76sF5oXAmurw hW+9tPAMlhU6mvgeeOCepossXLrvFoSq2b5szfG7DeXuSI7zTYhe1ysneKONdyd9yElP sHKQ== Received: by 10.224.60.12 with SMTP id n12mr42902137qah.23.1357563896424; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 05:04:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.59.108 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 05:04:56 -0800 (PST) References: <5E.73.23502.12B7CD05@hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com> <8E4EEEA1-405E-4C21-A075-6D60F4EF8D18@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 08:04:56 -0500 From: Robert Deanes To: Bud R Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I also use the Hylomar Blue, works good, seals good....believe it or nor you use to could get it at Harbor Freight ! On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Bud R wrote: > I'm a "Right Stuff" user too. > > It works great and I've even used it to stop leaks on the outer edge > of a timing cover that I didn't have the time or inclination to go > through the whole process of removing all the things needed to pull > the cover. > > > Bud Rolofson > > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 > 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) > 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) > Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) > > > > > > > > On Dec 27, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Steve Yott wrote: > > > I use a thin layer of the "Right Stuff".... I put that crap on > > everything!!!! As per the lady in the hot sauce commercial... > > > > Since it takes awhile to get everything in place and bolted down you > > don't > > want to use a fast set gasket sealer. I really like the Right Stuff > > as it > > will not fail you and does take a little while to setup. > > > > Steve Yott > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] > > On > > Behalf Of Dennis Delap > > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 10:14 AM > > To: Bob Kramer > > Cc: FOT > > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 build questions > > > > Speaking of the figure 8 gasket - what are you all using as a > > sealant these > > days? > > > > > > On Dec 26, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Bob Kramer > > wrote: > > > >> Make sure you measure protrusion after setting a head on top. I set > >> it > >> all > > up > >> dry and run nuts down all the studs. You may find out that you have > >> less protrusion than you first measured. The steel figure 8's are > >> stamped and > > press > >> down to around .0155". If you still have more than .005" you will > >> need > >> to > > have > >> custom gaskets made. Mordy Dunst "Gasket Works" makes them. > >> > >> Cleaning the crank without pulling the plugs is a guessing game. Get > >> them > > out > >> before spending money on the crank! > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On Dec 26, 2012, at 6:54 PM, marty sukey wrote: > >> > >>> A little advice needed from the TR4 masses. On the engine I am > >>> working on > >> the > >>> liner protrusion is .008"/.009". Spec calls out .003"/.005". This > >>> is > >>> a HP street engine. Block and head are freshly surfaced, new > >>> sleeves. > >>> Head > >> gasket > >>> is one of BFE's copper ones. The figure 8 gaskets are .016" steel > >>> and > > could > >> be > >>> probably be surface ground down to reach the .003"/.005" spec. > >>> Question > > is, > >> do > >>> I need to do this or is the extra protrusion ok? > >>> > >>> Second question, After the crank is ground I am thinking I need to > >>> remove > >> the > >>> cross drilling plugs so that I can clean the internals out > >>> sufficiently. > > It > >>> looks like this has been attempted sometime in the past as a couple > >>> of the hex's are stripped out. Should I remove/replace these? I'm > >>> thinking they > >> will > >>> be challenging based upon some being stripped already. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> fot@autox.team.net > >>> > >>> http://www.fot-racing.com > >>> > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>> Unsubscribe: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green@sbcglobal.net > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 7 06:38:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8704428FC for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 06:38:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from tr.ccfot.com (wsip-98-174-80-205.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36DA740E46 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 06:38:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82CC4A4C092 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 08:35:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from tr.ccfot.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tr.ccfot.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hjcnojyNzhLi for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 08:35:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from HENRYPRECISION (wsip-98-174-80-202.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.202]) (Authenticated sender: yellow04@tr4racer.com) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 01A9BA4C084 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 08:35:17 -0500 (EST) From: To: References: <003801cdec22$fd2165c0$f7643140$@rr.com><77D2D49E-E94C-495A-BCE6-BB28B632C236@austin.rr.com> <005101cdec8d$9d345990$d79d0cb0$@rr.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 08:35:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 hot start problems Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The race car is a completely different story, Bill Dentinger's post explained my take on that issue. But in the street driving world, I guess I have been lucky. In all my years of driving SU/Stromberg Triumphs on the street I never really had a hot start problem. I agree with Jim Norlin's experience, having your carbs 100% right seems to be at least part of the solution. I have built two modified TR4 street engines in the past several years. The first one is my buddy's car, it has with a cam, some head work, a stock TR4A exhaust manifold and belt driven fan. Mine has a bigger cam, even more head work, a header and an electric fan. Both are running stock mechanical fuel pumps and neither has a heat shield. Both got new HS6's direct from Burlen in the UK. We routinely load up the cars with our wives and gear and try to drive the wheels off. I can recall countless stop and go bathroom breaks and gas stops in very hot weather that had me wondering if the cars would restart, but they always fire right up. I read somewhere long long ago (I am thinking it's in the owners manual) that you are supposed to hold the throttle open about 1/3 open when cranking a hot engine, when you do that the engine usually fires immediately. It's nice to hear people having hot start issues in January, for the better part of the past week I have been seeing single digits in the morning glance of the thermometer! Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg & Alison Blake" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 hot start problems > > what are the solutions other than heat shield? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 7 22:32:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 048BC403F2 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 22:32:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C2E403D3 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 22:32:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.22.217]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MGA00N1IKKQ1780@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 23:29:15 -0600 (CST) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Bobby Whitehead" , "FoT Triumph" References: <1357489528.59378.YahooMailRC@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 00:29:11 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Harbor Freight Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Funny how "China Freight" always uses cutesy names for their stuff: US General, Chicago Hydraulics, etc. My tools go back 45 years, a combination of Craftsman, MAC, Snap On, Proto, and other quality brands. And Lincoln welders. Life's too short to buy cheap tools. Or cheap bikes. Or in the old days, cheap beer! Ya gets what ya pays for. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobby Whitehead" To: "FoT Triumph" Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 11:25 AM Subject: [Fot] Harbor Freight > I'm not a big fan of buying stuff made in China but Harbor Freight has a > sale in > my area of N. Texas this week.... the U.S. General (U.S.?) four drawer > tool cart > 580lb capacity is a real good deal at $99.99 ... I use one like it in my > car > hauler / garage.. also a 3 ton jack stand set is $15.99 ... cheap enough > if you > own several Triumphs like me, one or two is always in the air.. not > mentioned > but a purchase I made a few months back was a nice set of car dollys.. > I've got > my Spitwad rolling around in the garage on those... wish I had bought > those > years ago... you can push the car over into the tightest spaces... > Now these are toys for men and women and there has been a bunch of > backlash from > toys in China painted with lead base paint... but as adults we should know > not > to lick our Chinese tools... > > Bobby > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 8 06:25:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1752E40510 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 06:25:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181E7403F0 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 06:25:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from AdminPC ([unknown] [173.49.186.55]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MGB00DPD6HRX2M2@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:22:41 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard Good" To: "FoT Triumph" References: <1357489528.59378.YahooMailRC@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <72F73456BC644FF8943306A05BC717FE@hpd530> Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 08:22:36 -0500 Subject: [Fot] carb bolt pattern Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I understand the 1-1/4 SU's used on early Spitfire mount with two bolts straight up and down. Can anyone tell me the exact center to center bolt spacing? I need to make a manifold to fit this carb and have none to measure. Thanks, Richard Good _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 8 07:57:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3798040516 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 07:57:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-da0-f50.google.com (mail-da0-f50.google.com [209.85.210.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C975403D3 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 07:57:03 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-da0-f50.google.com with SMTP id h15so228402dan.9 for ; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 06:54:02 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HFM+w4xj3lK6p0tPrKz+YCCh3a/0VFy6gIzT2aAGptk=; b=Zxug3ARxWYKyUmiXLU5J/7OSnp6sDuCDHe6VDpHg6YOp3X0+xfAIs54RKg2iT5ampZ XGNE/sQEH88QnePh1rw3AJDWTfzkgqTnVskrFxOgGHIfUj8Rk9uVWSTBUnvWEJNjj6dF PYgAmruQ6VXOGv2Lw35KYM3rHuIDMI3qDwKPaGdg+TTgFKHWi35FJaeLtsZ5e6ccZ6Fp KeYbM6Y0Iz4QE5dNibCInH09SMqEu0Ht2KEBR3Lh9a1ptsahqPv/4HA7bjKA2DBCBRQ8 0dfB34vxAYAwLeEnmFTH3HLMMeRgZOBLyxnR8+5r8rxDyIZMAqdIJhnrQCPsMEeNUb4D fK/g== gj3mr200390375pbc.110.1357656842020; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 06:54:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-19-158-146.phnx.qwest.net. [174.19.158.146]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id us7sm39755127pbc.40.2013.01.08.06.54.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 08 Jan 2013 06:54:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:53:58 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 To: FOT References: <1357489528.59378.YahooMailRC@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <72F73456BC644FF8943306A05BC717FE@hpd530> Subject: Re: [Fot] Harbor Freight Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 1/7/13 10:29 PM, Bill Tobin wrote: > Funny how "China Freight" always uses cutesy names for their stuff: US > General, Chicago Hydraulics, etc. After WWII and well into the 1960's Japanese products for export to the US followed the same strategy. Provide a name that Americans would be comfortable with that would give the impression of quality and reliability. Growing up my first sewing machine was made in Japan and carried the brand name "Stradivarius" . My first tools were acquired on an as needed basis one at a time as I needed to get something done when I could not afford a pro to perform the task. I would go to a shop. They would diagnose the problem and give me an estimate I could not afford. I would then go to the library and read everything I could find about that part of a car. Then I would go to the parts store and purchase the part. Then I would give it a go. Usually the process would look more like a keystone comedy skit from the Lucille Ball show with me accidentally taking off wrong parts, breaking things because I didn't know how to use a tool properly or taking off too many parts. I once or twice had a spark plug launch itself off the engine whilst driving down a road because I didn't get it on tight enough. And of course by the time I stopped work on a project I had more grease and grime on me than the vehicle had on it. At first a car project would usually include multiple trips to purchase a tool I did not have but perceived I needed for the next step of the project. My first breaker bar, short extension and spark plug socket carried the brand name "J.C. Penny". Yes Penny's used to sell tools that carried their name. TeriAnn If I'd had enough money back then to pay a mechanic I would never have learned how to turn a wrench. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 8 08:14:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D154B403FE for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 08:14:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93778403F0 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 08:14:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b%11]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 09:11:44 -0600 From: "Barr, Scott" To: FOT Thread-Topic: [Fot] Harbor Freight Thread-Index: AQHN7Cp6ULIS1TPna0uPB+YB4UJZu5g+6ftKgAECPgD//50s8A== Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 15:11:43 +0000 References: <1357489528.59378.YahooMailRC@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <72F73456BC644FF8943306A05BC717FE@hpd530> <50EC3306.2080407@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Subject: Re: [Fot] Harbor Freight Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The vast majority of my "Buffalo" brand socket set (purchased who knows where) is, thankfully, gone. Broken, not lost. I purchased that socket set around 1987 to do my first solo wrenching - changing a water pump, in the parking lot of our apartment building. Naturally, it rained. I never had any of my own tools before that, as my dad (GT6 racer Jerry Barr) was always a short drive away, with a bottomless toolbox and decades of wrenching experience. The tools sold at Harbor Freight these days seem of higher quality than that old Buffalo brand socket set, but I try to get Craftsman or better. Scott B. (must be winter, if we're down to talking about tools. Is it time for The Great Transmission Debate again?) -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 8:54 AM To: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Harbor Freight On 1/7/13 10:29 PM, Bill Tobin wrote: > Funny how "China Freight" always uses cutesy names for their stuff: US > General, Chicago Hydraulics, etc. After WWII and well into the 1960's Japanese products for export to the US followed the same strategy. Provide a name that Americans would be comfortable with that would give the impression of quality and reliability. Growing up my first sewing machine was made in Japan and carried the brand name "Stradivarius" . My first tools were acquired on an as needed basis one at a time as I needed to get something done when I could not afford a pro to perform the task. I would go to a shop. They would diagnose the problem and give me an estimate I could not afford. I would then go to the library and read everything I could find about that part of a car. Then I would go to the parts store and purchase the part. Then I would give it a go. Usually the process would look more like a keystone comedy skit from the Lucille Ball show with me accidentally taking off wrong parts, breaking things because I didn't know how to use a tool properly or taking off too many parts. I once or twice had a spark plug launch itself off the engine whilst driving down a road because I didn't get it on tight enough. And of course by the time I stopped work on a project I had more grease and grime on me than the vehicle had on it. At first a car project would usually include multiple trips to purchase a tool I did not have but perceived I needed for the next step of the project. My first breaker bar, short extension and spark plug socket carried the brand name "J.C. Penny". Yes Penny's used to sell tools that carried their name. TeriAnn If I'd had enough money back then to pay a mechanic I would never have learned how to turn a wrench. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 8 08:43:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035434044F for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 08:43:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail202c2.megamailservers.com (mail202c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B559403A6 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 08:43:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) by mail202c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r08FeRQ1004725; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 10:40:33 -0500 From: "john hasty" To: "'Barr, Scott'" , "'FOT'" References: <1357489528.59378.YahooMailRC@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com><72F73456BC644FF8943306A05BC717FE@hpd530> <50EC3306.2080407@gmail.com> <82BFCF3631841845BADD37BD9FE7EA730E8123B1@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 10:40:23 -0500 Thread-Index: AQHN7Cp6ULIS1TPna0uPB+YB4UJZu5g+6ftKgAECPgD//50s8IAACx5g a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=MJIo3LPEAAAA:8 a=b0gZSuWWAlbUVBM9DmAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=IeVFYImMg6QA:10 a=k7lsNiDwPymbQ1sq:21 a=uhfF2TbixlIqBSCQ:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] Harbor Freight Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net No debate from me, I learned my lesson the last time I brought it up! John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Barr, Scott Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 10:12 AM To: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Harbor Freight The vast majority of my "Buffalo" brand socket set (purchased who knows where) is, thankfully, gone. Broken, not lost. I purchased that socket set around 1987 to do my first solo wrenching - changing a water pump, in the parking lot of our apartment building. Naturally, it rained. I never had any of my own tools before that, as my dad (GT6 racer Jerry Barr) was always a short drive away, with a bottomless toolbox and decades of wrenching experience. The tools sold at Harbor Freight these days seem of higher quality than that old Buffalo brand socket set, but I try to get Craftsman or better. Scott B. (must be winter, if we're down to talking about tools. Is it time for The Great Transmission Debate again?) -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 8:54 AM To: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Harbor Freight On 1/7/13 10:29 PM, Bill Tobin wrote: > Funny how "China Freight" always uses cutesy names for their stuff: US > General, Chicago Hydraulics, etc. After WWII and well into the 1960's Japanese products for export to the US followed the same strategy. Provide a name that Americans would be comfortable with that would give the impression of quality and reliability. Growing up my first sewing machine was made in Japan and carried the brand name "Stradivarius" . My first tools were acquired on an as needed basis one at a time as I needed to get something done when I could not afford a pro to perform the task. I would go to a shop. They would diagnose the problem and give me an estimate I could not afford. I would then go to the library and read everything I could find about that part of a car. Then I would go to the parts store and purchase the part. Then I would give it a go. Usually the process would look more like a keystone comedy skit from the Lucille Ball show with me accidentally taking off wrong parts, breaking things because I didn't know how to use a tool properly or taking off too many parts. I once or twice had a spark plug launch itself off the engine whilst driving down a road because I didn't get it on tight enough. And of course by the time I stopped work on a project I had more grease and grime on me than the vehicle had on it. At first a car project would usually include multiple trips to purchase a tool I did not have but perceived I needed for the next step of the project. My first breaker bar, short extension and spark plug socket carried the brand name "J.C. Penny". Yes Penny's used to sell tools that carried their name. TeriAnn If I'd had enough money back then to pay a mechanic I would never have learned how to turn a wrench. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 8 09:01:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF1740435 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 09:01:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm10.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm10.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AAAF403F6 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 09:01:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.127] by nm10.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2013 15:58:46 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.242] by tm2.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2013 15:58:46 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp113.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2013 15:58:46 -0000 s=s1024; t=1357660726; bh=DhIG0TICgC2aMFA2YBHlMzffMx9M7fXUgF2/3JEvU1Q=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=WHPudIqeFkqPjqDTBbTjQbRdjZzwiwxIHPBjCY7psP4hdkKRxE4TAT48pAGLD+svK8QFuI0cqETUlNJoytVkZaN+Id8TpFkZko/XYy5t/+fssHGincafn8lnnIciQad2vklH3Y/T/LbLvvxWlFkgJoteXNVnlZlOJEgOUwZ5fmU= by4IWHwxGwRtWVwWeK2qjyh2lT1SiAbnOZVBdREebaOgl3vHHuPW64vR3n.Q Yr_p7mRmC94THRB8PtNld7pv.SAY.YhoNbhcxa5xRqTa_Ky4j00kr398oWNG _Q18d3Z1tVVqmVYGX5qygXNy_iNuuqMI9SZhe.QUhYEXdjy4IQOdAa_EPB7X GqIoDHl7NFEdSF2Q2eZkzS3CapcEoXZcrW6xpritiBkKkAziIxP8SINzfdXb Rf.D0IAoOctE.iyJ9WYoxcE8y6XOd6NmDsqmAtQ9zR4lAawGNs4MGpmOv3fv VnjIIl7A_bmGzTSKc6UN.ZM1nDJIrM.klY6tYoTex_lU2kja3sOfgvF4Ym3M .797HkqUlc.Zu.GkFZa9LDo4uQU3rkmmfY6PafzygLNuJCVl_rBZDF5KVynJ v7yshnWQHv9Wi_peaP5_nA4vv.ejTx77R9zfemmhusrIgPUMJdNmk5KHf2BK sYuTxKWqS5.mulnFdQ5K2a9JGJaQk42rYYA-- Received: from dmitchelPC (dmitchel@68.248.75.37 with login) by smtp113.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Jan 2013 07:58:45 -0800 PST From: "Doug Mitchell" To: "'TeriAnn J. Wakeman'" , "'FOT'" References: <1357489528.59378.YahooMailRC@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <72F73456BC644FF8943306A05BC717FE@hpd530> <50EC3306.2080407@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 10:58:45 -0500 Thread-Index: AQKHRuzm2B1RR95T7+iD+PpSycRFbAFZpadMArV04raWrGnSoA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Harbor Freight Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have a set of socket wrenches that I bought at Penney's over 40 years ago. I bought them because they were about 10-15% less than the Craftsman brand. They had the same lifetime guarantee as Sears. Unfortunately, they stopped selling tools in the early '80s. Still work great, other than the 7/16 that some got lost under the carpet of the Spit for about 20 years. A Snap-On found on the race track replaced that. As for Harbor Freight and other el cheapo tools, I will buy them as a one time deal for limited jobs. But when they need replacing, I try to buy quality. I bought a cheap tap and die set years ago. As the original wear out, they get replaced with good stuff. Doug -- Doug Mitchell dmitchel@sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 9:54 AM To: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Harbor Freight On 1/7/13 10:29 PM, Bill Tobin wrote: > Funny how "China Freight" always uses cutesy names for their stuff: US > General, Chicago Hydraulics, etc. After WWII and well into the 1960's Japanese products for export to the US followed the same strategy. Provide a name that Americans would be comfortable with that would give the impression of quality and reliability. Growing up my first sewing machine was made in Japan and carried the brand name "Stradivarius" . My first tools were acquired on an as needed basis one at a time as I needed to get something done when I could not afford a pro to perform the task. I would go to a shop. They would diagnose the problem and give me an estimate I could not afford. I would then go to the library and read everything I could find about that part of a car. Then I would go to the parts store and purchase the part. Then I would give it a go. Usually the process would look more like a keystone comedy skit from the Lucille Ball show with me accidentally taking off wrong parts, breaking things because I didn't know how to use a tool properly or taking off too many parts. I once or twice had a spark plug launch itself off the engine whilst driving down a road because I didn't get it on tight enough. And of course by the time I stopped work on a project I had more grease and grime on me than the vehicle had on it. At first a car project would usually include multiple trips to purchase a tool I did not have but perceived I needed for the next step of the project. My first breaker bar, short extension and spark plug socket carried the brand name "J.C. Penny". Yes Penny's used to sell tools that carried their name. TeriAnn If I'd had enough money back then to pay a mechanic I would never have learned how to turn a wrench. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dmitchel@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 8 09:10:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83ECB4054B for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 09:10:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E33C403FE for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 09:10:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.22.217]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MGB00JBSE37H070@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 10:06:44 -0600 (CST) From: "Bill Tobin" To: Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 11:06:40 -0500 Subject: [Fot] tools Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net TeriAnn, glad you weren't afraid to get your hands dirty and learn how to fix things! My kind of girl! (That's a compliment, not a sexist remark!) My first engine overhaul was my '64 Tempest, after reading many Hot Rod how-to-do-it articles. It came out OK, after a bit of help from a friend. Scott and Scott, I still have the complete set of sockets and box end wrenches from Wizard, Western Auto's brand, bought in the late '50's. They hang on the same board that I nailed to the wall, as a ten year old, in our new garage, built in '59! They still get used, especially on my old Farmalls. There were many little-known tool brands produced in that era, mostly good quality. When buying pliers, there's only one brand and they're made 15 miles south of me in Meadville, PA. Blue handles. I have friends who work there. Channellock. They have a new set of MIG welding pliers out, far superior to the import stuff. And not horribly expensive. Funny, if you go to China Freight, their brand of pliers is hanging on the display rack. Channellocks are locked in a cabinet! We're supposed to have some nice weather for a few days, fairly warm. Time to go pull the engine in the TR6 and overhaul it. Off to the garage............ Cheers, Bill _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 8 09:40:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A02DB4053A for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 09:40:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f181.google.com (mail-we0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3C940413 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 09:40:26 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-we0-f181.google.com with SMTP id t11so511371wey.12 for ; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 08:37:24 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=jMn/XK3i6RIxK+HQ3IzOodH1iM0MnWqXb4V3pGahKRM=; b=TTBUHpy/1YT/cuspG+Sep4tZz1Bzv4D6JyG6L5GO2UFA+bOvUj6AVdURwB1fN4CY4R KZMjGppGxSii8f9wiOiPbZBovWqUgf9lUgbO5dXX7zgrL9n3I3gihZAZctxVgycREQyP NKBJd45mwoOAEZ0OKCV67JkSA0CBI9FmuXlPRtqFKkww2C1BU/mi6WoQ6aIUqAJqJSKv Ql5IycVkPg9JIxdG0alIFHRukxkZcaMJWOaRaVBlznscKCpOterIyJIaxO/JlFQxpvDF E3INxEh+bq6g1JNg+UgXCwS/d976jCKaHJNj5iIUCorrJBSCOLXUPbhRtDXmkDFJnJ8U hBUA== dl9mr15650874wib.20.1357663044292; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 08:37:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home ([2.174.8.133]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l5sm19088742wia.10.2013.01.08.08.37.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 08 Jan 2013 08:37:23 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: "'FOT'" References: <1357489528.59378.YahooMailRC@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <72F73456BC644FF8943306A05BC717FE@hpd530> <50EC3306.2080407@gmail.com> <000001cdedb9$0a8c6c40$1fa544c0$@sbcglobal.net> Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 17:37:21 +0100 Thread-Index: AQKHRuzm2B1RR95T7+iD+PpSycRFbAFZpadMArV04raWrGnSoIAACRGQ Content-Language: de Subject: [Fot] Split seals TR 3-4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi guys, how things are going? I would like to thank all people for purchasing my Viton seal solution in the past. I never thought that this type of crank seal might become such a big deal in Triumph cars and racing. Now the number of 250 seals are sold and I think most of them are now implanted to Triumph or Morgan cars. How cool is that? I also would like to thank Joe Alexander for his effort to keep this project going and making excellent suggestions to improve this solution. As usual he stocks the Viton seals for the USA/Canada market. At the moment the Viton seal is asked as never before. The last two weeks I sold 15 kits all about Europe mostly UK. I'm pleased to see that and had so far only two complaints. The first one said, the seal was leaking badly after mounting. A replacement was dry. The other one didn't check his flywheel bolt length and the 4 bolts ripped the Viton seal to bits. Bad luck for that. All 248 other seals seem to work okay as I had no bad feedback so far, only emails with good results. So I'm happy if people have now a leak free race car and fun on the tracks. Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 8 09:44:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29EEA4056B for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 09:44:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm33-vm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm33-vm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED314042D for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 09:44:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.146] by nm33.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2013 16:41:04 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.112] by tm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2013 16:41:04 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1017.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2013 16:41:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 3116 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jan 2013 16:41:03 -0000 s=s1024; t=1357663263; bh=dFKbjYUdWKnDln6yuINkb8rDcYSCBGPXtrIKMducJOg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=h+fvLeOJ/MbrHHXdjbS0O0Q46RlquC5IyYZ6aEAVY3X9EVWUI2onjSmShk7mMRkgMPECAgqbNR5MKgr7csyAjHPe9W/jBUIZuPR83z4a+KJ7+yPXoBF6kVo6LDzwC9eNP6nFcGhT94N5wD+hqPIYjZAXBZXq6upnv6AgWSKOKwY= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3/2hvIJUpgrHYtgByykCAeP2zV4hre+qn7c4Xjun9PSUqRyLqOBUAxvdnUwyfMih+l/tLT9/qu1iSKXH+Pkhf2PejKbACqeZcGUUS2avkt3z0pjxRtnQBs3sbHvC2qwX4HdH5rqNH8ynrmEpWTwQHTmK5YWdeerwTiBq+L/x6FQ=; HrKM8L4VsPidnJp_6z4bhfe9wLc.iY5EvXq9uNng7XK3dp.2KU9J8cVYncPD hevOTnslwjQ5P_mDpfF.wKvKFLloxmUaOxOJUobhirKaz3dbhiJu1_bao.r9 Z7PPb1azfs1R5xJ10KGLVlIkASVgNczDu3eusiKW36bn1f0vTxY0GL7if2mv sTTtZCzZ_IGK6A_iLH4dZE6ITBpPHiYVVxjxmqUff1xIdQn3fHMHEufDW_QY HV1jlCCnRyAP588LjQld8722cX5v0GtRL3Kums8OM0LgtSABR_d11j03V.aR XKLmaUXoEV8vgeymaDmDLctSoLCy.og7f.ZqDT5n8cwpCgVJM_b9uh5v.qrN _YTV4UBfy_rRMpPe8P5VfWkMPVFeB5h7RNfU73fhM1HeXokZmLsN3JJxtb8T HT8nHAXp6te0Yn0MtAtKfpsfHTLPuP87LQ4baQiLbm.AKaYma5Na8RugoVBB x6FdmOu4- Received: from [76.221.83.131] by web182203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 08:41:03 PST YmVpbmcgYSB0b29sIGd1eSBhbGwgbXkgbGlmZSAobm90IGp1c3QgYSB0b29sKSBJIHJlbWVtYmVyIHRoZSBKYXBhbmVzZSBjb21wYW55IAp0aGF0IGhhZCBhIGNvbXBhbnkgaW4gVVNBIEphcGFuLi4uLiBJIHRoaW5rIHRoZXkgd2UncmUgdG9sZCB0byBjZWFzZSBhbmQgCmRlc2lzdC4uLiAgIEJHVwoKCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KRnJvbTogQmlsbCBUb2JpbiA8d2lsbGlhbS50b2JpbjMxQHZlcml6b24ubmV0PgpUbzogQm9iYnkgV2hpdGVoZWFkIDxpZ29mYXN0ZXJAYXR0Lm4BMAEBAQE- References: <1357489528.59378.YahooMailRC@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <72F73456BC644FF8943306A05BC717FE@hpd530> Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 08:41:03 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: Bill Tobin Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Harbor Freight Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net being a tool guy all my life (not just a tool) I remember the Japanese company that had a company in USA Japan.... I think they we're told to cease and desist... BGW ________________________________ From: Bill Tobin To: Bobby Whitehead ; FoT Triumph Sent: Mon, January 7, 2013 11:29:17 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Harbor Freight Funny how "China Freight" always uses cutesy names for their stuff: US General, Chicago Hydraulics, etc. My tools go back 45 years, a combination of Craftsman, MAC, Snap On, Proto, and other quality brands. And Lincoln welders. Life's too short to buy cheap tools. Or cheap bikes. Or in the old days, cheap beer! Ya gets what ya pays for. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobby Whitehead" To: "FoT Triumph" Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 11:25 AM Subject: [Fot] Harbor Freight > I'm not a big fan of buying stuff made in China but Harbor Freight has a sale >in > my area of N. Texas this week.... the U.S. General (U.S.?) four drawer tool >cart > 580lb capacity is a real good deal at $99.99 ... I use one like it in my car > hauler / garage.. also a 3 ton jack stand set is $15.99 ... cheap enough if you > own several Triumphs like me, one or two is always in the air.. not mentioned > but a purchase I made a few months back was a nice set of car dollys.. I've got > my Spitwad rolling around in the garage on those... wish I had bought those > years ago... you can push the car over into the tightest spaces... > Now these are toys for men and women and there has been a bunch of backlash >from > toys in China painted with lead base paint... but as adults we should know not > to lick our Chinese tools... > > Bobby > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 8 09:54:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C1740528 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 09:54:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA76240403 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 09:54:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id lSAt1k00C1zF43QA1Uri8g; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 16:51:42 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id lUrg1k00X4L5TyG8kUrhAJ; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 16:51:42 +0000 From: Bud R To: Richard Good Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 09:51:40 -0700 References: <1357489528.59378.YahooMailRC@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <72F73456BC644FF8943306A05BC717FE@hpd530> <8882A188D0744D53BE9D4277AE9A6983@AdminPC> s=q20121106; t=1357663902; bh=jugb+hBZXhnHLcwpa+MvvAm0fd3Ec2KG/8gMWtuoJ/o=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=hHrUmyP3EsIvTMviXKgeOx+jz4pO/0SHXiamuQhiJfeHzSpnpdhKx/kXKtO3K4ZpT DkvMopsaYEU75H+bQ5DBUTCas1a7Imvexd74c+T8Azci9GUhcmdM2G+pDht3uICPT3 DrKQoyxwhmZsZZVoqwQnSG1odfxvxs9saUZUphcvnnBg9y0DImApH8T+sVpxvIn9MD PI75KnbdQS8PrB9EuOIKuJrZaIMxr4Vpetw+d5n21wKWUSAmIA7sNMLVSC9MV4FI30 2dGY5kRCrD/eVm4Q3XifFTjFHuLgXSRZj1/ByITty59gkBaXMK/MhmpLmLfYN4QRD9 wCXMl1aGwA0nA== Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] carb bolt pattern Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Richard, I measured 2.52 inches on both sets of 1 1/4 carbs I have. Glad to see you doing more Spitfire parts. How bout a LSD next. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Jan 8, 2013, at 6:22 AM, Richard Good wrote: > I understand the 1-1/4 SU's used on early Spitfire mount with two > bolts straight up and down. Can anyone tell me the exact center to > center bolt spacing? I need to make a manifold to fit this carb and > have none to measure. > > Thanks, > Richard Good _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 8 10:24:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7FE4044C for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 10:24:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s7.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s7.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77739403F6 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 10:24:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU168-W107 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s7.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 8 Jan 2013 09:21:03 -0800 From: marty sukey To: Bud Rolofson , Richard Good Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 12:21:03 -0500 References: <1357489528.59378.YahooMailRC@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, <72F73456BC644FF8943306A05BC717FE@hpd530>, <8882A188D0744D53BE9D4277AE9A6983@AdminPC>, <326DB8EF-7BD1-4065-B84A-2A7082A728DF@comcast.net> FILETIME=[89569C20:01CDEDC4] Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] carb bolt pattern Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I second the motion :) Marty > From: levilevi@comcast.net > To: goodparts@verizon.net > Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 09:51:40 -0700 > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] carb bolt pattern > > Richard, > > I measured 2.52 inches on both sets of 1 1/4 carbs I have. Glad to see > you doing more Spitfire parts. How bout a LSD next. > > > Bud Rolofson > > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 > 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) > 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) > Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 2013, at 6:22 AM, Richard Good wrote: > > > I understand the 1-1/4 SU's used on early Spitfire mount with two > > bolts straight up and down. Can anyone tell me the exact center to > > center bolt spacing? I need to make a manifold to fit this carb and > > have none to measure. > > > > Thanks, > > Richard Good _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 8 10:41:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 684A440430 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 10:41:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (fed1rmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C019E403F9 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 10:41:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from fed1rmimpo110 ([68.230.241.159]) by fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20130108173816.TSNH1243.fed1rmfepo202.cox.net@fed1rmimpo110> for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 12:38:16 -0500 Received: from Vista ([68.110.89.224]) by fed1rmimpo110 with cox id lVeF1k00m4qRjhw01VeG29; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 12:38:16 -0500 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=lmnNEcqG9cEA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=5fVmcXV173LxcLV_R3YA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: "'FOT'" References: <1357489528.59378.YahooMailRC@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com><72F73456BC644FF8943306A05BC717FE@hpd530><50EC3306.2080407@gmail.com><82BFCF3631841845BADD37BD9FE7EA730E8123B1@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <37246ED617AE475389FED3D14D9CB81B@gdhs.local> Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 10:38:24 -0700 Thread-Index: AQHN7Cp6ULIS1TPna0uPB+YB4UJZu5g+6ftKgAECPgD//50s8IAACx5ggAAe39A= Subject: Re: [Fot] Harbor Freight Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net As far as hand tools are concerned, I stay with my Craftsman, Snap-On, MAC etc, but I have discovered that electric tools such as grinders, Sawsalls, sanders and so forth are all made in China (even the name brands) and don't last very long. So my purchasing strategy is to buy the cheapest one knowing that I will have to buy another one when it breaks. Joe C. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of john hasty Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 8:40 AM To: 'Barr, Scott'; 'FOT' Subject: Re: [Fot] Harbor Freight No debate from me, I learned my lesson the last time I brought it up! _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 8 11:24:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580D44042D for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 11:24:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79CDF403F5 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 11:24:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from AdminPC ([unknown] [173.49.186.55]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MGB001OIKALB0Z1@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 12:20:47 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard Good" To: "FoT Triumph" References: <1357489528.59378.YahooMailRC@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <72F73456BC644FF8943306A05BC717FE@hpd530> <8882A188D0744D53BE9D4277AE9A6983@AdminPC> <326DB8EF-7BD1-4065-B84A-2A7082A728DF@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 13:20:41 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] carb bolt pattern Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks everyone for your help. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: Bud R To: Richard Good Cc: FoT Triumph Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] carb bolt pattern Richard, I measured 2.52 inches on both sets of 1 1/4 carbs I have. Glad to see you doing more Spitfire parts. How bout a LSD next. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Jan 8, 2013, at 6:22 AM, Richard Good wrote: I understand the 1-1/4 SU's used on early Spitfire mount with two bolts straight up and down. Can anyone tell me the exact center to center bolt spacing? I need to make a manifold to fit this carb and have none to measure. Thanks, Richard Good _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 8 12:58:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8150840432 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 12:58:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (imr-mb01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.164]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA29F40403 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 12:58:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.138]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 85D6A1C000434; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 14:53:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mse001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mse001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.65]) by mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 11D79E00008A; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 14:53:50 -0500 (EST) References: <1357489528.59378.YahooMailRC@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <72F73456BC644FF8943306A05BC717FE@hpd530> <50EC3306.2080407@gmail.com> <000001cdedb9$0a8c6c40$1fa544c0$@sbcglobal.net> <007a01cdedbe$6f6f80c0$4e4e8240$@com> To: tr4racing@googlemail.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m172.sysops.aol.com (64.12.183.157) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 08 Jan 2013 14:53:49 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 14:53:50 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1357674830; bh=8a9eU34ShARC1j1Sq0wv1FKXQVl3uVCSC7eF8hLkuWs=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OotgqEGam2+nEf0TAlYhQssD62Eo4pZfBy/ARbzEU/jVKEjFWlhSslGXllJs1UymM +vX6zoJbQNBgf6e9pkVvL3ucFFqI/GOU4Qfne45TuDPbq+oHvlP125cWYaj7AUcPa6 I17mEfk1aBLyo4tf8zo728ysGne2L3EZvrwtZybc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338a50ec794e7bc5 Subject: Re: [Fot] Split seals TR 3-4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT: After two years of sales of this product designed by Chris Marx, it has become a proven product. I have been passing these components through at my cost to support the project, and I am not at all unhappy I have done this. Chris has turned production of the seals over to another company that has huge buying power. Chris has also worked with this company to produce the split scroll seal to the Viton Seal specifications. This is far preferable over remanufacturing and modifying the old scroll seals. (A large pain in my A**). So the cost of the seal has gone down and the cost of the new scroll has gone up. That all being said, I have the new VITON SEALS, the new SCROLLS, and the CENTERING TOOLS all on the shelf. I will be rethinking the pricing as I sometimes have a couple of thousand in inventory and it's time I made some profit on these. They will still be lower cost than you can get them from Europe or in the U.S. My pleasure. I currently have five scrolls on the shelf, if anyone needs a kit or individual components, please contact me. Best Regards, Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: MadMarx To: 'FOT' Sent: Tue, Jan 8, 2013 10:37 am Subject: [Fot] Split seals TR 3-4 Hi guys, how things are going? I would like to thank all people for purchasing my Viton seal solution in the past. I never thought that this type of crank seal might become such a big deal in Triumph cars and racing. Now the number of 250 seals are sold and I think most of them are now implanted to Triumph or Morgan cars. How cool is that? I also would like to thank Joe Alexander for his effort to keep this project going and making excellent suggestions to improve this solution. As usual he stocks the Viton seals for the USA/Canada market. At the moment the Viton seal is asked as never before. The last two weeks I sold 15 kits all about Europe mostly UK. I'm pleased to see that and had so far only two complaints. The first one said, the seal was leaking badly after mounting. A replacement was dry. The other one didn't check his flywheel bolt length and the 4 bolts ripped the Viton seal to bits. Bad luck for that. All 248 other seals seem to work okay as I had no bad feedback so far, only emails with good results. So I'm happy if people have now a leak free race car and fun on the tracks. Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 8 13:57:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A274740654 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 13:57:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5992540556 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 13:57:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id AC33B1C0019C9 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 15:51:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-ded001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-ded001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.54.1]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 557B2E000095 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 15:51:27 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net From: robertten1@aol.com Received: from 96.233.64.253 by webmail-m163.sysops.aol.com (64.12.183.154) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 08 Jan 2013 15:51:26 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 15:51:27 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1357678287; bh=KRlek/mXCF6prV1vWQAduPJPyN+n4ssrjM3FGpDmQVY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WQTo5aKl/SMOuR5YrARZ1uEd3OiFTFplOYAjsHqQa0UzQ3xEdRVACj7nWmo+spKPd sWXvL6spOygIAL5ccq0DWJQDs+h+fMS4VmJ7FP+Fao80bkxcrTAYoD2wnuvN/z+aOS gKJ9hOTc3npFEL636mSayaYUV4EfzG7DaX9GtxLY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d50ec86cf61c7 Subject: [Fot] ref: contact cline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici, For those looking to contact Ric Cline with questions about his Camshafts and their availability -- Email at : rcline369@aol.com Cheers, Bob T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 8 18:05:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A9D84065B for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 18:05:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1AEF40435 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 18:04:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.10]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 226D81C00008C for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 20:01:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mse001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mse001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.65]) by mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C0C9BE000086 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 20:01:45 -0500 (EST) References: <8CFBC1131C37D7B-1980-2B5F7@webmail-m172.sysops.aol.com> To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m172.sysops.aol.com (64.12.183.157) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 08 Jan 2013 20:01:45 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 20:01:45 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1357693307; bh=jNy50kyt01k8BnrlnTE9CSn0cxhe/ZBij87WwW+zxCc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fjutQwjo94ScEmf9FStUBWNUVocLHAGN/hCCIzvYrQaPBAYLsP7TWQP6IEfhTuZtr XOAM/kxJ3V6VScM9muWsu5Egx5hmL/RohEUm0IHtRWwK6nky+aigfFdZbZXcT6mGt0 cXMvy5FGfQpK7KBuQiRBPJY0moPqiSv2PZyt+LAI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290a50ecc1792632 Subject: [Fot] uncle jack THE TRIUMPH STAG making an appearance at the Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT: Sometime ago, I invited "uncle jack" to come to the 11th Running of the Kastner Cup. For you that are unfamiliar with the story, this Stag is named for our late Friend, Jack Drews. The ISOA did a complete and total restoration of a TRIUMPH STAG for Jon Macartney's 10,000 mile or so trek around North America in a non-profit charity effort for PSTD. Following the TOUR the Stag known as 'uncle jack' was auctioned off and the winning bid was submitted by PHIL ETHIER, of St. Paul, MN. Phil and his wife will be bringing 'uncle jack' to spend the weekend with us and will assume some important duties during the weekend. Some one may decide to call a meeting of the SINGLE MALT SOCIETY, that being one of Jack's favorite adult beverages. (the only requirement for membership is a shot of single malt in your hand for a toast to 'uncle jack'. It's part of what we are about. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 9 08:50:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131814042D for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 08:50:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60EF4403BA for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 08:50:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r09Fl4AM031956 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 10:47:04 -0500 Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 10:47:04 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] 16 Inch Rims on TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, Car: TR6, non-vintage, current Solo car in SCCA. I'm going through my "list" for 2013 and one of the things that has come up again is tire availability... Goodyear has pulled out of Solo, so I can only get cantilever slicks from Hoosier or at least that's where my search has gone so far. A lot of the "fast guys" are running 16 inch rims along with non-cantilever slicks from pretty much every manufacturer. Some of the faster guys are switching to Avon. In fact, Avon pulled in some trophies at Nationals in 2012, so they look "promising". I'll eventually talk to the guys at Roger Krauss about the Avons, but even so, there are a lot more choices in the non-cantilever category slicks out there... So, this is a long way of asking: When I switch to 16 inch rims and non-cantilever tires, I have to get 16 x 10 rims because of the tire choices. I know the the interference of of the upper control arm is less of an issue, but there's limited space on the rear trailing arm - so I have to be careful what I get for wheels as far as offset. Can anyone provide some guidance numbers for proper wheel sizing when switching to 16 rims? I figure I need a -24mm offset maybe more. Any comments? I realize that I'll need custom wheels for this. I need some pointers there. I only know about Kieser at this point. Methinks: "this could get expensive" It also makes me think - road racing might be "cheaper". :-) rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 9 10:38:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AACC240417 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 10:38:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm28-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm28-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.188]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E404040A for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 10:37:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm28.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jan 2013 17:34:49 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.171] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jan 2013 17:34:49 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1027.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jan 2013 17:34:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 40223 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Jan 2013 17:34:48 -0000 s=s1024; t=1357752888; bh=wtx7J2QmgAtgb7qOcQa8jWZmgKS1TC/7kE4SRnS6t3U=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sMYH42HGySL3x5MBRVIMPwic/2mI2Y1WRErU3Lm5FaGV/xAfe7BNPCMRF6jQQKtG2fVZOIVlNzB5iCRH3eGmZJNXSQ13ECKxK9LB+RyrLSSkPI7upBKK1JlVvrPTJsO+X08XgxUOa96rA0LMRhJY1l62IRjoqn+6aZ1XozShoRg= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SvTA74DNxezq9yaL3yF8rj+T299hODVSYzSubDow1ty5d53p+lZutqSaErxHtCwb0hTRVHdYpvl2tT/zJyfpAeursbVE+mMRpykRz8dcidWyaJPUzwEDOtk/JcWtkyOnJTV+1+GGrgCvR0Mi5wC+ZE1it1Hmf76qDN88GE91Ft0=; 27mEy.Qf1UxBrHQ1WepXBoO2.Ji0_rr9q0rIA5UyNFKwogO6jL5UYio485iH zcmoItf7aqGDQcJgpD9.4Hn3ofOmdstGK6xg0v00IBbQMlPH.m._hSb_KUXG INFAtddJL96YpgBO6Z5z381wkNpSQTmPz9jcxNYObrMv8C1PDRQQNnJQxiEi ZBE_Bs9fSW6nOaHJbNxUpmlU0Ot781nsEdLgCeln6RQMNCKbthDF6Oj1ZKID FaEb9ECW3V7vFLLj5NaMR16cjT2ya4B5ZfJXwwq88mApmPNpP1TY_hSvaAX. AZotHRpUFYxZ4nkhNMjGQtgiZ0X2nyE9l2L95Edmw_qWa4o2bDQGbnBfaU0Y ElvNI4vDLYsxtWcsyuxhfPZDvSaShnFKsgQAw7vAIW_qDZ3v8Bamobox3gHR UsD1AoDFG.Y6mdOgD1XOoz..ixIyJDJUK Received: from [64.196.19.194] by web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 09:34:48 PST SSB3ZW50IHRvIHRoZSBETVZSIFNDQ0EgbWVldGluZyBsYXN0IG5pZ2h0LCBhbmQgd2lsbCBiZSBzb2xvIGF1dG8gY3Jvc3NpbmcgYW4gODAgU3BpdGZpcmUgYW5kIHNvYWtpbmcgaW4gYWxsIHRoZSBpbmZvIEkgY2FuIHRvIHdvcmsgdG93YXJkcyBnZXR0aW5nIG15IHJhY2luZyBsaWNlbnNlIGFuZCBiZWNvbWluZyBhIGNsdWIgcmFjZXIuIEkgYW0gbmV3IHRvIHRoaXMsIGFuZCBkb24ndCB3YW50IHRvIGRpdmUgaW4gdG9vIGRlZXAganVzdCB5ZXQuIEl0IHdpbGwgYmUgbmljZSB0byBoYXZlIGEgc3BlY2lmaWMBMAEBAQE- Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 09:34:48 -0800 (PST) From: Shawn Frank To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] I'm joining the SCCA. Good or bad? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I went to the DMVR SCCA meeting last night, and will be solo auto crossing an 80 Spitfire and soaking in all the info I can to work towards getting my racing license and becoming a club racer. I am new to this, and don't want to dive in too deep just yet. It will be nice to have a specific race car instead of using my road car Spitfire. I need to find an info source for a roll cage that I need to pass inspection for SCCA rules. Is it the same regulations for things like the Kastner Cup? Is it a standard spec throughout the different racing factions? Do I need to go all out with 5 point harnesses and a hans device? Is the SCCA a good place to start, or should I get in to a different faction? I would like to be able to drive the racer to the track. Is that possible to have a street legal racer that still has the proper spec for being a club racer? Like I said, I am new to this and am excited to start off this next season. I want to definitely work towards actual track time instead of parking lots and cones. Door to door racing is much more appealing to me. Can anyone help with any of these questions or have suggestions for a rookie like me? Thank you for the time...Shawn Frank Des Moines, IA 515-339-4228 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 9 10:50:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB874044C for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 10:50:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D83840355 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 10:50:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r09HlGLb032262; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 12:47:16 -0500 Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 12:47:16 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Joe Alexander References: <8CFBC9C08BB679E-C24-2F081@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 16 Inch Rims on TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, Joe Alexander wrote: > Perhaps the time has come for you to join us with road racing. Exactly. Or not. FWIW, I got shot down on my SCCA medical clearance, so I guess I need to be "less candid" in my next attempt. ;-) > A modest approach could be very satisfying to you as it has been with > Mr. Tobin. The operative is "modest". I seem to have a problem with that. "Overkill" is more my usual approach. Although I seem to be "maturing" in that respect. > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com c ya, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 9 11:42:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA20D40413 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 11:42:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB79403F1 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 11:41:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.142]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id DE6FB380000C6; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 13:38:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mse001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mse001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.65]) by mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 84ABAE00008A; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 13:38:49 -0500 (EST) References: <1357752888.28203.YahooMailNeo@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: my71spit13@yahoo.com, FOT@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.131) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 09 Jan 2013 13:38:49 -0500 Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 13:38:49 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1357756729; bh=hU69Hw4zYzraWySQRUenYCDzSAImpBGzuTOMb3GtF/4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XUE9CftGf5mRonGk/9dUvF2iZc5aVTXUWyU/tHzrcJZqcWAq8c+p4m7OeVglJRPjZ oLqoI0VFt5RQyYP+poPmBCoR4hSh9cmDlLnoZJ3Av9NXczb8Vv29/7qyr9lXS1AtBA 9XGa2lK/6+mfFbgfRnDe2lUe8VkHACc2YguorfNI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338e50edb939174b Subject: Re: [Fot] I'm joining the SCCA. Good or bad? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Lots of good questions. Des Moines Valley Region does not seem to be a bad place to explore for information. Google MIDWEST COUNCIL OF SPORTS CAR CLUBS and review their website. They primarily operate out of BLACKHAWK FARMS RACEWAY. They conduct both autocross and wheel to wheel schools on the road racing track. They have been in existence since the 50s and have it all down pretty well. We are targeting a school in the spring for a combination of things....sorting out reconstruction of the TR4, possible refresher for me, and possibly getting credentials for G'son Brendan. You might join us there. Also look at VSCDA.org for a purely vintage organization. Lot's of information there. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Shawn Frank To: Friends of Triumph Sent: Wed, Jan 9, 2013 11:35 am Subject: [Fot] I'm joining the SCCA. Good or bad? I went to the DMVR SCCA meeting last night, and will be solo auto crossing an 80 Spitfire and soaking in all the info I can to work towards getting my racing license and becoming a club racer. I am new to this, and don't want to dive in too deep just yet. It will be nice to have a specific race car instead of using my road car Spitfire. I need to find an info source for a roll cage that I need to pass inspection for SCCA rules. Is it the same regulations for things like the Kastner Cup? Is it a standard spec throughout the different racing factions? Do I need to go all out with 5 point harnesses and a hans device? Is the SCCA a good place to start, or should I get in to a different faction? I would like to be able to drive the racer to the track. Is that possible to have a street legal racer that still has the proper spec for being a club racer? Like I said, I am new to this and am excited to start off this next season. I want to definitely work towards actual track time instead of parking lots and cones. Door to door racing is much more appealing to me. Can anyone help with any of these questions or have suggestions for a rookie like me? Thank you for the time...Shawn Frank Des Moines, IA 515-339-4228 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 9 12:06:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F6640517 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 12:06:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bosmailout08.eigbox.net (bosmailout08.eigbox.net [66.96.185.8]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744D84003F for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 12:06:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from bosmailscan11.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.11]) by bosmailout08.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Tt0w1-0001ZH-JF for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:03:33 -0500 Received: from bosmailscan24.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.24]) by bosmailscan11.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Tt0w1-0006EA-4V for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:03:33 -0500 Received: from bosimpout03.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.3]) by bosmailscan24.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Tt0w1-0002mr-6p; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:03:33 -0500 Received: from bosauthsmtp04.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.4]) by bosimpout03.eigbox.net with NO UCE id lv3T1k00A05GATN01v3Tdd; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:03:27 -0500 a=XKDf2TC7AtrXIbFVZFzOoA==:17 a=3-MZCWuAnnEA:10 a=jXorlPEIrz8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=fpxprQpRKmEA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=_IbZdmxpEDG3ahIGqEoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=AzcjnM92X40A:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=jcMFiYeD4Gz02xRQ37rMPA==:117 Received: from ppp-70-253-66-163.dsl.austtx.swbell.net ([70.253.66.163] helo=zap6) by bosauthsmtp04.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1Tt0vx-0004Cw-Hx; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:03:29 -0500 From: "Robert MacKenzie" To: "'Shawn Frank'" , "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <1357752888.28203.YahooMailNeo@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 13:03:19 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac3uj7ZPr9pHfFQ2QDOoE9A11o+OagACAAmA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] I'm joining the SCCA. Good or bad? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Shawn: Speaking only for myself; I feel an SCCA card is a good thing. I have been competing in SCCA Solo with two Spits for several years and recently went through the same sort of questions you are asking. The bottom line is a Spitfire 1500 can be a competitive solo car in F Street Prepared [FSP]. That is a national class that has large entry numbers at most SCCA National Tour, Championship and ProSolo events and you will need a SCCA card to enter. Safety requirements in solo are less stringent; you should plan to install a basic roll bar with harness bar and a good 4 or 5 point harness. SA 2005 or 2010 helmets are needed but a HANS device is not. [not yet?] Fuel cells and fire systems are also not required. As for road racing in SCCA that is a different ball game. A late spit can run in the Grand Touring class as well as the Improved touring without huge modifications like those in the Production class. You will have to check with your local chapter as to what classes they run in your region. You will still require a full cage, fuel cell, racing seat, fire system, HANS....ect. All the information is in the new January 2013 GCR which is available for download off the SCCA club racing page. There is yet another option: SCCA Vintage Racing. Again, you will have to check with your local chapter as to what classes/races, if any, are run in your region. There is a separate SCCA Vintage Racing GCR. My advice would be to mod the car for FSP solo and run as many events as you can while doing some track days/driving schools. Plan to attend Solo Nationals in the fall! Other folks on this list will be much more knowledgeable than I with respect to other vintage clubs/series such as HSR or SVRA. Feel free to contact me off line if you have any questions wrt SCCA Solo in your Spit. Robert MacKenzie Austin Texas '78 1500 (street) '71 GT6 MKIII (project) '62 Spitfire 4 (race) -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Shawn Frank Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 11:35 AM To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] I'm joining the SCCA. Good or bad? I went to the DMVR SCCA meeting last night, and will be solo auto crossing an 80 Spitfire and soaking in all the info I can to work towards getting my racing license and becoming a club racer. I am new to this, and don't want to dive in too deep just yet. It will be nice to have a specific race car instead of using my road car Spitfire. I need to find an info source for a roll cage that I need to pass inspection for SCCA rules. Is it the same regulations for things like the Kastner Cup? Is it a standard spec throughout the different racing factions? Do I need to go all out with 5 point harnesses and a hans device? Is the SCCA a good place to start, or should I get in to a different faction? I would like to be able to drive the racer to the track. Is that possible to have a street legal racer that still has the proper spec for being a club racer? Like I said, I am new to this and am excited to start off this next season. I want to definitely work towards actual track time instead of parking lots and cones. Door to door racing is much more appealing to me. Can anyone help with any of these questions or have suggestions for a rookie like me? Thank you for the time...Shawn Frank Des Moines, IA 515-339-4228 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/list@mackenzie.aero _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 9 12:21:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C66F4040F for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 12:21:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bosmailout10.eigbox.net (bosmailout10.eigbox.net [66.96.190.10]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD89840329 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 12:21:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from bosmailscan04.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.4]) by bosmailout10.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Tt1AE-0000SL-NF for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:18:14 -0500 Received: from bosimpout04.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.4]) by bosmailscan04.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Tt1AD-00019y-UD for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:18:14 -0500 Received: from bosauthsmtp02.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.2]) by bosimpout04.eigbox.net with NO UCE id lvJE1k00702gpmq01vJEdk; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:18:14 -0500 a=XKDf2TC7AtrXIbFVZFzOoA==:17 a=3-MZCWuAnnEA:10 a=Ketb293cL2oA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=v9H2dPUMSN4A:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=UQ73ft6hKAcWRk-Y-QQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=noQjv9YW-iYA:10 a=KTDso90Uc2QA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=fqLrbtY_SyDpQfsy:21 a=ORgmhckj-aludGFd:21 a=9MP9vxlQrmnoeofDS6o88g==:117 Received: from ppp-70-253-66-163.dsl.austtx.swbell.net ([70.253.66.163] helo=zap6) by bosauthsmtp02.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1Tt1AD-0002KO-Dc for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:18:14 -0500 From: "Robert MacKenzie" To: "'Robert M. Lang'" , References: Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 13:17:56 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac3ugKOBsV5bbzSVS6SrvPg/XQntqQAHRYCg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] 16 Inch Rims on TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I can't comment of the wheels but I have been running the Hoosier A6s on my '62 Spit Solo GP car. Once you get some heat into them they are unbeatable. Some cars seem to work better on a smaller wheel so this might work for you. Robert -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert M. Lang Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 9:47 AM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] 16 Inch Rims on TR6 Hi, Car: TR6, non-vintage, current Solo car in SCCA. I'm going through my "list" for 2013 and one of the things that has come up again is tire availability... Goodyear has pulled out of Solo, so I can only get cantilever slicks from Hoosier or at least that's where my search has gone so far. A lot of the "fast guys" are running 16 inch rims along with non-cantilever slicks from pretty much every manufacturer. Some of the faster guys are switching to Avon. In fact, Avon pulled in some trophies at Nationals in 2012, so they look "promising". I'll eventually talk to the guys at Roger Krauss about the Avons, but even so, there are a lot more choices in the non-cantilever category slicks out there... So, this is a long way of asking: When I switch to 16 inch rims and non-cantilever tires, I have to get 16 x 10 rims because of the tire choices. I know the the interference of of the upper control arm is less of an issue, but there's limited space on the rear trailing arm - so I have to be careful what I get for wheels as far as offset. Can anyone provide some guidance numbers for proper wheel sizing when switching to 16 rims? I figure I need a -24mm offset maybe more. Any comments? I realize that I'll need custom wheels for this. I need some pointers there. I only know about Kieser at this point. Methinks: "this could get expensive" It also makes me think - road racing might be "cheaper". :-) rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/list@mackenzie.aero _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 9 12:36:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 953054044E for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 12:36:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f54.google.com (mail-pa0-f54.google.com [209.85.220.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E738D403F5 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 12:36:10 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id bi5so1233772pad.41 for ; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 11:33:03 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=hBCDEiQxoI6cN+9aAHtsG3WTqkU5+V+e+5iQyZMkCo4=; b=gwzi5R//FwDgJc/YDeSEN6ZVKNiPXpuxfFtXppPrOgqj+b7s1EiDkAkz4vK8WolhWB pAXttqd0c9+vdvFZ0Us90flBVkMbDKljVP09k3Ck2+dZSkGVuTVZBMWvpX2Y4cTL77E8 +yMir9rXjov1jgOlKuKbxU1rhm/woQRhatsKulJFlbhDHpwDNdDSooZrtnuhdGQ8Z1bL ikQwoP9DFzpgkULgBj3pdUV1YWm8f5lYJ4w+dAnRFNyVVEW3md9m19ucn6KzZY+fJIM6 C+lel4XJAxH6wfPiD/SKnscO4v0Z3kzNW2qomfyyiroHzTZOCv3EOIEjlb6YwUnD9pXB aC8w== Received: by 10.68.253.161 with SMTP id ab1mr193229180pbd.97.1357759983179; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 11:33:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.77.102 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 11:33:03 -0800 (PST) References: <1357752888.28203.YahooMailNeo@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8CFBCAFB2EEDBBC-C24-30C62@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 13:33:03 -0600 From: Jason Ostrowski To: Joe Alexander Cc: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] I'm joining the SCCA. Good or bad? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Shawn, Yes, In my opinion, Midwestern Council, as Joe says, will likely be your best introduction and source for the journey you are embarking on. You would most likely even have a FoT member as your instructor. I'm heavy involved in MCSCC, Racer, race chair, Board member... etc. Great group of people. Provides many types of high speed track events.. autocross and wheel to wheel. >From both a fun and competition standpoint you will really like the options offered for a 1500 spit. We have 2 drivers school weekends..in April and August. This is a Points Championship Series for all classes except vintage. We have a total of about 10 race weekend events at various tracks in the Midwest such as Blackhawk Farms, Road America, Gingerman, Grattan, Milwaukee Mile. A Midwestern Council Full Competition Licence allows you racing privileges just about anywhere. Let me know if you are interested anytime and I'll hook you up with help you will need. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 9 13:13:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176B24042D for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 13:13:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from col0-omc2-s8.col0.hotmail.com (col0-omc2-s8.col0.hotmail.com [65.55.34.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A91F403F1 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 13:13:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from COL125-W23 ([65.55.34.71]) by col0-omc2-s8.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 9 Jan 2013 12:09:58 -0800 From: Joe Henry To: Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 20:09:58 +0000 References: <1357752888.28203.YahooMailNeo@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> FILETIME=[4CA37E10:01CDEEA5] Subject: Re: [Fot] I'm joining the SCCA. Good or bad? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Shawn, I have been a SCCA member for a long time and have been Club Racing for a while. Different feel at a SCCA race than vintage but both are fun. Roll Cage info can be found in the GCR and I am pretty sure most if not all vintage groups will accept a SCCA cage. If you are going wheel to wheel racing I would rethink driving my car to the track! I am not saying it is not possible in some classes but there are a number of modifications that would help a race car that are not street legal. Also in wheel to wheel racing, any wheel to wheel racing, stuff happens and things break. Being several hundred miles from home with your only means of transportation "on the hook" would not be a good feeling! Reconsider this strongly! Limiting your participation to autocross is another matter. HANS will be required for wheel to wheel and a 5 point harness. 5 point would also be useful in autocross. You have a wonderful source of knowledge here in this group. Be sure to use it and HAVE FUN! Joe Downer Charlotte, N.C. > Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 09:34:48 -0800 > From: my71spit13@yahoo.com > To: FOT@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] I'm joining the SCCA. Good or bad? > > I went to the DMVR SCCA meeting last night, and will be solo auto crossing an > 80 Spitfire and soaking in all the info I can to work towards getting my > racing license and becoming a club racer. I am new to this, and don't want to > dive in too deep just yet. It will be nice to have a specific race car instead > of using my road car Spitfire. I need to find an info source for a roll cage > that I need to pass inspection for SCCA rules. Is it the same regulations for > things like the Kastner Cup? Is it a standard spec throughout the different > racing factions? Do I need to go all out with 5 point harnesses and a hans > device? Is the SCCA a good place to start, or should I get in to a different > faction? I would like to be able to drive the racer to the track. Is that > possible to have a street legal racer that still has the proper spec for being > a club racer? Like I said, I am new to this and am excited to start off this > next season. I want to definitely work > towards actual track time instead of parking lots and cones. Door to door > racing is much more appealing to me. Can anyone help with any of these > questions or have suggestions for a rookie like me? Thank you for the > time...Shawn Frank Des Moines, IA 515-339-4228 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhd11@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 9 14:44:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA55740426 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 14:44:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95341403FA for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 14:44:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 3E19D1C00020F for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 16:41:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mse001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mse001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.65]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 010E5E000102 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 16:41:10 -0500 (EST) References: <8CFBCBEB99F6300-C24-31D6B@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.131) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 09 Jan 2013 16:41:10 -0500 Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 16:41:10 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1357767672; bh=MchUda1DRyubVmO7UgT8MtxAl3ypZS0wDCo+hwCoXgs=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=N6aQEzay1PXCZ9rQrutb/0cP5nnNyNr/KGukD5U1BmdORW7V2FVB3v80vAnXr4iYd jMaUAYDjewaPbZmO7baXRhHlQYlU02ip0zH1ui2HbCWNOln93giVGf6AzaMibnkInG jqphcWY229tEsuko/2z3u6rEx6YgUvQsTYGFndHo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c50ede3f64a62 Subject: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT: I got a nice email from Henry Frye this morning. Henry, knowing that we are reworking our TR4, pointed to inspecting the shock towers and anchor points for the cross member. He is exactly right. Although most everyone understands this, it bears drawing attention to it. This is why we are totally dismantling the TR4. Sean and I detected something amiss with the front suspension as we discussed winter storage. That led to moving the chassis to Niehaus Restorations. Keith is a master welder/fabricator. We did some gusseting twenty years ago that helped for a long time, but finally the shock towers were exhibiting large cracks. The anchor points for the cross member is light gauge sheet metal and they were crushed and torn. All of this was fixed and reinforced with better materials. The x-member was showing rust and fatigue so it was redone. Sean painted the frame in an industrial grey so that we can better see what is happening with frame. There has been some on track frame failures with TRs in the past. We noticed something going on when #197 came off the track the last race in 2012. Ignoring it would have resulted in a serious failure in 2013. Perhaps a free ride to medical, as well. Anyway, unless you are investing in a RATCO frame, this is a good time to do a close inspection. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 9 17:13:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455F840406 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 17:13:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm14.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm14.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.141]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10CAE40406 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 17:10:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.107] by nm14.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2013 00:07:28 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.71] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2013 00:07:28 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2013 00:07:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 6883 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jan 2013 00:07:28 -0000 s=s1024; t=1357776448; bh=UutHypdOkH5hHIKBWuw8j1eRlHWGE+3K6/V2fIi66K0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XmXy7kjCXWd7cj7XkyIAKXxmAekK9Pl1LJBDxQhdZLpgkKM2ZyXMuP/vWAoNqYgmbPgDnt/4VS+nAT+ggBKy0I0WqQGzL1oJqEc1V4C9/HNSq5R/7hgY1FJA5O6g4oZcVKkUMuOVn5F4nkuH+ssF5rNFsrTLljFGWPXUYGKfm6c= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Xh2FnpQ0e95Yuckf1FODhPKwwG9JF/afh6r9vfGKtkeuqd2FAk2aiBbtss+Uh5V05WZDM1Xp/HSDKnrRIT3hfvr4Jexosz4l7JCFxAWu1SruzPrRnS+IOeFBc1l8f0PKS5pYh6ykyRj1N2z3yEJEQNVJ+RkkWty4b4G8d7IM5lk=; Z13vEU3uTC7D7QPaGRvm1ENRGOgSlBPfD8n01lud5KQAUIcY8xRt92zI2uxg l5GHrdUyq5wQAill7CfipHJl5w5rIhRSXHp.1Tu2Sk5I2unkrHwzlSMHMPWC POs8EPomBdX0uZg8JFnoBBbO9dq13ICXRi64MADOoxUyBPtl70JD.qSk.uNS UzHqk874BY0hQYtSPsx7.erXmPYv7X3ukrN17U0tEL2E5l4u_d4Ct0Uj5atv zsW.FKm6OXjJB_jJK745jh.QIi9qH359uXTFhBnWSeQJ5EvaGK.fzjnPc.wR kh1rSr6lM8ZAnCrdyAiAJuuvzT3U.uGtVjiNyHgnILYfxl4Ehlz2IxkE7uKZ QbT67mYAckcAJPm7QgxWv7IdW345Lg4zdMa6mr4F8PZltGeJzIem71szCIfU 6W9HdwDWvOFyKdy16jFKsfoEoXY7_n_l1RmnPygyciwXsW7_eL91VLWBKdGC S7mHzhnVfzltBslz2yw-- Received: from [99.60.75.95] by web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 16:07:27 PST RG8gVFI2cyAoMTk3NCkgaGF2ZSB0aGlzIHdlYWtuZXNzIGFsc28_CgoKCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwpGcm9tOiBKb2UgQWxleGFuZGVyIDxuMTk3dHI0QGNzLmNvbT4KVG86IGZvdEBhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldApTZW50OiBXZWQsIEphbnVhcnkgOSwgMjAxMyAxOjQxOjUxIFBNClN1YmplY3Q6IFtGb3RdIFRSIENIQVNTSVMgRkFUSUdVRSAtIEEgQ0FVVElPTkFSWSBUQUxFCgpGT1Q6CgpJIGdvdCBhIG5pY2UgZW1haWwgZnJvbSBIZW5yeSBGcnllIHRoaXMgbW9ybmluZy4gSGVucnkBMAEBAQE- References: <8CFBCBEB99F6300-C24-31D6B@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> <8CFBCC92C94EEC0-C24-328FA@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 16:07:27 -0800 (PST) From: sherry robyn To: Joe Alexander , fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Do TR6s (1974) have this weakness also? ________________________________ From: Joe Alexander To: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Wed, January 9, 2013 1:41:51 PM Subject: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE FOT: I got a nice email from Henry Frye this morning. Henry, knowing that we are reworking our TR4, pointed to inspecting the shock towers and anchor points for the cross member. He is exactly right. Although most everyone understands this, it bears drawing attention to it. This is why we are totally dismantling the TR4. Sean and I detected something amiss with the front suspension as we discussed winter storage. That led to moving the chassis to Niehaus Restorations. Keith is a master welder/fabricator. We did some gusseting twenty years ago that helped for a long time, but finally the shock towers were exhibiting large cracks. The anchor points for the cross member is light gauge sheet metal and they were crushed and torn. All of this was fixed and reinforced with better materials. The x-member was showing rust and fatigue so it was redone. Sean painted the frame in an industrial grey so that we can better see what is happening with frame. There has been some on track frame failures with TRs in the past. We noticed something going on when #197 came off the track the last race in 2012. Ignoring it would have resulted in a serious failure in 2013. Perhaps a free ride to medical, as well. Anyway, unless you are investing in a RATCO frame, this is a good time to do a close inspection. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sherryjimmy6116@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 9 17:57:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F4E64042A for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 17:57:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm11-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm11-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.136]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 74EA8403C7 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 17:55:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.151] by nm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2013 00:52:19 -0000 Received: from [98.139.213.1] by tm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2013 00:52:19 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp101.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2013 00:52:19 -0000 s=s1024; t=1357779139; bh=FQVflV1q9t8t32RiMlS8E311rzqdlm4NA1opgh6OMMI=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Date:Subject:Message-ID:From:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bJBHUXAcTfsxkhblRX7NRJBV8lrnjBLmTk6oHrr+QM/Ng5WNDg00Lv9i+qtau1UJloFRLtxXiVtFj6CD7/JMuTV5jnn5Z2CH+Xd9udRPO2soxfDUKH0pGfqR0EcRufXcLKCjB5fPD1Zd4WjblDAUPith25aPO3Z7UnmWU2qAxmE= sAgZmi5jry4zc2xw4byjINcnmQZHK_K6_6pu9GE9EoVFnPJekJcNzOQGrp1g NFF77aVU6RIMBkZ2mXqkXTKv.ceyWw.ALDmFTYDzrwdFhM.7rWkDh6O5P7Ta UrV9AkNYjhGuV1JN__flwLuzDUYVEk4cfUCD3DvORozSQu67.z4epA_3uUG5 OehBbshKke7m0z_G8PSPWVlYDoQTT.qGietNgT1j007QcC4df6WPMFuC9Nr8 b7_qEjypg8Zjx9m4vWlLloXdFlLg9ChGSDVshrXvxLwzaDm8.VmHIPTx7JxZ MVpXXSIBQ2dZ29zw_5_2NXxZCDUDVnfoe9Mmb9Yt8e7F6giClBENm7CDusto 23X9SKu80d5iGL5NyQwh399S_UC_49XTCBwu0Bk72IPu32.EzyzNRpKvkyEI wA1djZexDB1DCAaJl6MUodPHF7eGb3GoYHhVTI4JqWgGuSvYe.1P83BH2Sn_ 1SigVDN6NzWtsno3qKbg- Received: from localhost (my71spit13@71.32.166.143 with plain) by smtp101.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jan 2013 00:52:19 +0000 UTC Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 18:52:17 -0600 From: my71spit13 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] I'm joining the SCCA. Good or bad? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thank you all for the advice and I appreciate the heads up on where to look for info I need. This year will be strictly an autocross year. I will use it to collect as much info as possible and advance my car with each race towards a club racer. As soon as that time comes, the car will no longer be street legal so it can be a racer for real. I have a 71 Spitfire road car that I want to keep my baby, so this will be the year to really mess with things like putting a 1300 in the 80 racer from a MK3 Spitfire and different options for suspension, camber compensators (which I know nothing about yet) and exhaust options, etc. I can't wait! I am so excited to move forward on this, because since I was a kid, I have wanted to race, and specifically a British car. That's what it's all about, chasing our childhood, huh? Thanks again, everyone. I absolutely love this group!...Shawn Shawn Frank wrote: >I went to the DMVR SCCA meeting last night, and will be solo auto crossing an >80 Spitfire and soaking in all the info I can to work towards getting my >racing license and becoming a club racer. I am new to this, and don't want to >dive in too deep just yet. It will be nice to have a specific race car instead >of using my road car Spitfire. I need to find an info source for a roll cage >that I need to pass inspection for SCCA rules. Is it the same regulations for >things like the Kastner Cup? Is it a standard spec throughout the different >racing factions? Do I need to go all out with 5 point harnesses and a hans >device? Is the SCCA a good place to start, or should I get in to a different >faction? I would like to be able to drive the racer to the track. Is that >possible to have a street legal racer that still has the proper spec for being >a club racer? Like I said, I am new to this and am excited to start off this >next season. I want to definitely work > towards actual track time instead of parking lots and cones. Door to door >racing is much more appealing to me. Can anyone help with any of these >questions or have suggestions for a rookie like me? Thank you for the >time...Shawn Frank Des Moines, IA 515-339-4228 >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/my71spit13@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 10 02:32:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB8940427 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 02:32:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.o2.co.uk (jabba.london.02.net [82.132.130.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC1F34040C for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 02:32:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.45.68.106] (82.132.236.170) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.5.140.03) id 50BFE8B209B1EACF; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:28:46 +0000 References: <8CFBCBEB99F6300-C24-31D6B@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> <8CFBCC92C94EEC0-C24-328FA@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> From: TR4 Tony Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:28:42 +0000 To: Joe Alexander Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe It's worth taking a look at the sort of modifications that we do to the TR4 chassis for rallying. Clearly the sump guards and belly plates etc which are there to protect vital things from flying rocks and damage from heavy landings and two wheel adventure are not required, however the reinforcement work is all done to preserve the integrity of the frame and proven by my gentle driving. In terms of the front suspension and towers; even the Works Rally TR4s which were nowhere as tough as say my TR4 Beastie had a number of filleted plates added on the joints and corners, all sides filled in on anything that looked like a box, the main cross member plated up with another 3mm of steel and the welded joints all reinforced using triangular fillets. You should all be doing this as the majority of cracking and failures are due to fatigue, not from impact loadings. Bear in mind that with one exception you are adding very small segments of 2mm thick steel, so weight gain is a few months of not eating at macDonalds. If anyone wants I have a bare TR4 chassis on the ramp that is in be process of being repaired and taken from 1960's Works spec to 2013 Tony spec right now, so can give you chapter and verse with pictures. Best regards and Happy New Year to you all. Tony Sent from my iPhone On 9 Jan 2013, at 21:41, Joe Alexander wrote: > FOT: > > I got a nice email from Henry Frye this morning. Henry, knowing that we are > reworking our TR4, pointed to inspecting the shock towers and anchor points > for the cross member. He is exactly right. > > Although most everyone understands this, it bears drawing attention to it. > > This is why we are totally dismantling the TR4. Sean and I detected something > amiss with the front suspension as we discussed winter storage. That led to > moving the chassis to Niehaus Restorations. Keith is a master > welder/fabricator. > > We did some gusseting twenty years ago that helped for a long time, but > finally the shock towers were exhibiting large cracks. The anchor points for > the cross member is light gauge sheet metal and they were crushed and torn. > > All of this was fixed and reinforced with better materials. The x-member was > showing rust and fatigue so it was redone. > > Sean painted the frame in an industrial grey so that we can better see what is > happening with frame. > > There has been some on track frame failures with TRs in the past. We noticed > something going on when #197 came off the track the last race in 2012. > Ignoring it would have resulted in a serious failure in 2013. Perhaps a free > ride to medical, as well. > > Anyway, unless you are investing in a RATCO frame, this is a good time to do a > close inspection. > > > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 10 04:43:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B853840409 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 04:43:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f49.google.com (mail-ee0-f49.google.com [74.125.83.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D4240409 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 04:43:11 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ee0-f49.google.com with SMTP id c4so212049eek.8 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 03:40:01 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=HKzBcRX5pmENI/LfnaHB0wT3MDpzbqLlrf/jUw7vm+s=; b=BM9IrT57tVFZJHqVjcaGdXP+e+1i+LyYecUm94fuv71hM8WO2BRtxseX2FafrNAPSN jiM7y7vtEHxP4Yvs+n07sYMpeu80dRI3XUDhdjXsF55+kUI5TVT+KUrwiKAAGJ4+ObZy 0KwyTvut8A8dggZwYrgXJDpgRy129AOaCnuW/7JHmHmillk1Bk18+MHuoKwRHsOqYKNP UsuK1bGu7aniEf8def0EgnInXmCqHxA93YyIwJ8hZs98BjQ7MXCt88iV7OvlslAyB+vT 5du8Gw4O4uYfe/KVkk8FHXIpZzNR9oN6wEmRzksOv3XySZ4sltzQZ9gwA9Vte5FpLnVW og7Q== z42mr192561148eep.22.1357818001187; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 03:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home ([2.171.182.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w44sm2613042eep.6.2013.01.10.03.39.59 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 10 Jan 2013 03:40:00 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <8CFBCBEB99F6300-C24-31D6B@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> <8CFBCC92C94EEC0-C24-328FA@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:40:00 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac3usg/IT0GT/FVPQeO4IywvVzBfdgAdQvoA Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net So far I had at my car no crack after 8 years of racing. I run a soft suspension maybe that's why? Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 10 04:50:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC264041E for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 04:50:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from tr.ccfot.com (wsip-98-174-80-205.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0644040C for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 04:50:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F9BA4C091 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 06:47:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from tr.ccfot.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tr.ccfot.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HRP1fwaJ-k84 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 06:47:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from HENRYPRECISION (wsip-98-174-80-202.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.202]) (Authenticated sender: yellow04@tr4racer.com) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D4914A4C084 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 06:47:09 -0500 (EST) From: To: References: <8CFBCBEB99F6300-C24-31D6B@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com><8CFBCC92C94EEC0-C24-328FA@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> <1357776447.81982.YahooMailRC@web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 06:47:10 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Good question. The ladder frames under the TR2-TR4 seem to be much more rust resistant than the wishbone frames under the TR4A-TR6. I have come across numerous rusty project cars over the years, and have seen plenty of rusted out TR3's and 4's with what appear to be good frames, but I have never seen a rusty TR4A, 250 or 6 that did not need extensive frame work. I should add I have come across plenty of nice wishbone framed Triumphs sitting on frames in dire need of attention. I know the spring towers and cross members are different between the ladder and wishbone frames, and I believe the newer wishbone frame design is more robust. However, because of their propensity for rust, I'd venture a guess that the wishbone framed cars share the probability of failure in the areas Joe mentioned. Remember, the stess we put on these cars running them on track with today's racing tires is way beyond what the designers ever dreamed possible. You need to reinforce many key areas, keep the frame clean, paint it with something that will not hide cracks, and be very diligent with close inspections between race weekends. Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "sherry robyn" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE > Do TR6s (1974) have this weakness also? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 10 05:34:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D55A40424 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 05:34:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.o2.co.uk (sidious.london.02.net [82.132.130.152]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E6540413 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 05:34:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.241.29.6] (82.132.236.222) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.5.140.03) id 50BCF2430A434DCF; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:31:16 +0000 References: <8CFBCBEB99F6300-C24-31D6B@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> <8CFBCC92C94EEC0-C24-328FA@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> <000001cdef27$3a793f40$af6bbdc0$@com> From: TR4 Tony Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:31:12 +0000 To: MadMarx Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Chris I'd be very surprised if you have no fatigue cracking on a standard chassis after 50 years - you must have prepared it very well, but I'm sure a soft suspension assists greatly. Tony Sent from my iPhone On 10 Jan 2013, at 11:40, "MadMarx" wrote: > So far I had at my car no crack after 8 years of racing. > I run a soft suspension maybe that's why? > > Cheers > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 10 05:40:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1864E40512 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 05:40:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f169.google.com (mail-ea0-f169.google.com [209.85.215.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDDA40413 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 05:40:47 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ea0-f169.google.com with SMTP id a12so211543eaa.28 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 04:37:36 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=LZkY4/Wnh6eToT/x0QqzCs+SDOcT3Wkj4FarsVnrKJ0=; b=JBZ9dppeNLY1REi3uIBJXuQwYFDDUNEcro8LUj60ZlwipP3NsWgUVBKNzIs2dOuYru K5J/Eoyaq/WfqEUDukeIO4276lU9TF2tnNOshMdWjGAqkvIcIEgc4JUfnBKIvEfyXOdS BKSLYS7LiX4CJnN4QhD5f4jil1WLLBwbS7Ns8AxX1l8v682seX51WeMC/a+JL3l3XDWB i7JkC0SPXuRnQlYnahYXcLyss4wvBjpDPIqa7yFjdKrSBzHvr4FzLmb6MAgcdVfA4VHv wHSzFv81yz173N6Fg1V0rEpZ/C3a9zHpxRRNZqgtGfmtZfsi2j3bYMufARvZqx0p5jz9 xnuQ== 43mr192714942eed.31.1357821456619; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 04:37:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home ([2.171.182.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w3sm2824037eel.17.2013.01.10.04.37.35 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 10 Jan 2013 04:37:35 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: "'TR4 Tony'" References: <8CFBCBEB99F6300-C24-31D6B@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> <8CFBCC92C94EEC0-C24-328FA@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> <000001cdef27$3a793f40$af6bbdc0$@com> <319ADDC3-8B8C-4A03-BC99-27CA49600583@virgin.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:37:34 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac3vLmJHryHFoRlFTOSCx+WnjNm+bQAAGoxQ Content-Language: de Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net To say the truth - I've never done anything to the frame since I own the car (22 years now). I do run stock leave springs at rear and at front coil springs from the MGB GT 1800. I check the frame every season and found nothing so far. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: TR4 Tony [mailto:tr4.tony@virgin.net] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. Januar 2013 13:31 An: MadMarx Cc: Betreff: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE Chris I'd be very surprised if you have no fatigue cracking on a standard chassis after 50 years - you must have prepared it very well, but I'm sure a soft suspension assists greatly. Tony Sent from my iPhone On 10 Jan 2013, at 11:40, "MadMarx" wrote: > So far I had at my car no crack after 8 years of racing. > I run a soft suspension maybe that's why? > > Cheers > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 10 06:41:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 440B14043C for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 06:41:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s15.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s15.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.90]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC4540413 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 06:40:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT141-W29 ([65.55.90.71]) by snt0-omc2-s15.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 10 Jan 2013 05:37:31 -0800 From: Tony and Annie Garmey To: Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 05:37:31 -0800 FILETIME=[A3D83DF0:01CDEF37] Subject: [Fot] COLLECTION OF MG'S AND TRIUMPH PROJECT CARS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net While searching parts for a MGB, came aross this. While I'm at it..WTD ! left Front fender for a 68-69 MGB plus I need the Inner fender/stucture (LF) . I would consider a Ft Clip. http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/3533971276.html CheersTony Garmeywww.horizonracing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 10 07:54:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1FB240454 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 07:54:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B09640414 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 07:54:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r0AEoqmv003413; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:50:52 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:50:52 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: sherry robyn References: <8CFBCBEB99F6300-C24-31D6B@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> <8CFBCC92C94EEC0-C24-328FA@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> <1357776447.81982.YahooMailRC@web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, sherry robyn wrote: > Do TR6s (1974) have this weakness also? Speaking from personal experience - YES!!! I had a shock tower fail during practice for a national tour event. The metal split near the top of the box that forms the mount for the upper crossmember and the upper fulcrum pin mount peeled back a lot. I was lucky that the result was nothing more than a camber gain of 10 or 15 degrees!!! Also, watch where the square tube brace that angles down to the frame butts. That was cracked on both sides, maybe because of the other failure, but coincident to it. And I was doing frame checks fairly often. Now I do them after every event. I'm with Joe on this - RATCO is a good alternative!!! regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 10 08:02:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0A640516 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:02:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD3F40414 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:01:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.202]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 15E071C000199; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:58:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mse001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mse001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.65]) by mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 6E990E000081; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:58:43 -0500 (EST) References: <8CFBCBEB99F6300-C24-31D6B@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> <8CFBCC92C94EEC0-C24-328FA@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> <1357776447.81982.YahooMailRC@web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> To: lang@isis.mit.edu, sherryjimmy6116@att.net Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d065.sysops.aol.com (205.188.59.130) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:58:43 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:58:43 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1357829924; bh=DlaopiYp85izP5fn0OrRidXt/AC1TXn3Tbdkhm+hHyA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Af95qKsjzsBfVB9WachmzVE/bjJoSZiGfCJ0hXyuqt5Clk3r9hDF8YqfFnUKSjCX2 9OBT7PYc1Cs32nBTiChMPc4ASQbDGg+u/rGXywMb0mopJZ8voOzd4Xz8Qt5EqfJ5/p ZBonuDtCuD9dWBMhHxPnMMJNEksZc1HnuMdWrsiU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33ca50eed7230fa1 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have been to RATCO and worked with Tony Vigliotti on a couple projects.....1ST CLASS Square tube that trails down to frame: We did a lateral square tube to support this weldment area and redid....20 yrs ago. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Robert M. Lang To: sherry robyn Cc: Joe Alexander ; fot Sent: Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:50 am Subject: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, sherry robyn wrote: > Do TR6s (1974) have this weakness also? Speaking from personal experience - YES!!! I had a shock tower fail during practice for a national tour event. The metal split near the top of the box that forms the mount for the upper crossmember and the upper fulcrum pin mount peeled back a lot. I was lucky that the result was nothing more than a camber gain of 10 or 15 degrees!!! Also, watch where the square tube brace that angles down to the frame butts. That was cracked on both sides, maybe because of the other failure, but coincident to it. And I was doing frame checks fairly often. Now I do them after every event. I'm with Joe on this - RATCO is a good alternative!!! regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 10 08:04:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65D240434 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:04:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 780F240419 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:04:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r0AF1SQM003443; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 10:01:28 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 10:01:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: my71spit13 References: Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] I'm joining the SCCA. Good or bad? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, my71spit13 wrote: [stuff deleted] > each race towards a club racer. As soon as that time comes, the car will > no longer be street legal so it can be a racer for real. I have a 71 This is just a point of information... I know it sounds trite, but autocrossers are "real racers" too. Granted autocross is different, but it's no less intense and there equal (for the most part) preparation. Actually, autocross is even more of a mental sport than road racing because you need to stay so focused. It's also good preparation for road racing because you learn the mental aspects as well as the car control - that's why some autocrossers transistion to road racers so well. Regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 10 08:08:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F1640517 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:08:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc4-s1.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s1.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.140]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8EDB40419 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:08:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU168-W66 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s1.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 10 Jan 2013 07:04:59 -0800 From: marty sukey To: Bob Lang , Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 10:04:59 -0500 References: <8CFBCBEB99F6300-C24-31D6B@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com>, <8CFBCC92C94EEC0-C24-328FA@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com>, <1357776447.81982.YahooMailRC@web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>, FILETIME=[DC0F7420:01CDEF43] Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It is also not uncommon to find the welds cracked on the brackets that the steering rack attaches to on the TR6. Marty > Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:50:52 -0500 > From: lang@isis.mit.edu > To: sherryjimmy6116@att.net > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE > > On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, sherry robyn wrote: > > > Do TR6s (1974) have this weakness also? > > Speaking from personal experience - YES!!! > > I had a shock tower fail during practice for a national tour event. The > metal split near the top of the box that forms the mount for the > upper crossmember and the upper fulcrum pin mount peeled back a lot. I was > lucky that the result was nothing more than a camber gain of 10 or 15 > degrees!!! > > Also, watch where the square tube brace that angles down to the frame > butts. That was cracked on both sides, maybe because of the other failure, > but coincident to it. And I was doing frame checks fairly often. Now I do > them after every event. > > I'm with Joe on this - RATCO is a good alternative!!! > > regards, > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 10 08:28:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51EDD40433 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:28:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f173.google.com (mail-ea0-f173.google.com [209.85.215.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE6C40412 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:27:37 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ea0-f173.google.com with SMTP id i13so277065eaa.4 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 07:24:26 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=0krhYZ6RwvnE/w1JrnlxQFm4XPJP1fJkyYNoCOffM6w=; b=qhq6uu3xK1xz9Gs+EtGhPEGEsS0Nu+QPyVTBQaGPvBlc/Y6o/fBJeFbvMVLzmdrRZf FDhTUdAVdITBpzP24skoSqpUBqebOvTLEQvSEqiZOxENiFPeej/3Jsi5QI3coizdMADR GCFZs5wA+wNiI7+umbskIls7swfZY6wLl8PcB56gLvUOaSzrOqfU/mB7FlGl4n3vsChi w+MHbCrZcVFlLWbCeHnU15tFg13HNB7pPFqx8kF+7Fo/YiydOq5/DNGQUzwjB+JSyyi9 eW8Rcx11MAzc+wE2D/OLuXE55C3OsivJNvVYgVgKovQVCDKMPW33RnVLYtJdbjxUOnqH YNxA== e8mr193789108eeo.2.1357831465999; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 07:24:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home ([2.171.182.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm3602184eea.3.2013.01.10.07.24.24 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 10 Jan 2013 07:24:25 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <8CFBCBEB99F6300-C24-31D6B@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> <8CFBCC92C94EEC0-C24-328FA@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> <000001cdef27$3a793f40$af6bbdc0$@com> <319ADDC3-8B8C-4A03-BC99-27CA49600583@virgin.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:24:24 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac3vLmJHryHFoRlFTOSCx+WnjNm+bQAGBrTg Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Another idea...maybe I'm too gentle with my car? ;-) -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: TR4 Tony [mailto:tr4.tony@virgin.net] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. Januar 2013 13:31 An: MadMarx Cc: Betreff: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE Chris I'd be very surprised if you have no fatigue cracking on a standard chassis after 50 years - you must have prepared it very well, but I'm sure a soft suspension assists greatly. Tony Sent from my iPhone On 10 Jan 2013, at 11:40, "MadMarx" wrote: > So far I had at my car no crack after 8 years of racing. > I run a soft suspension maybe that's why? > > Cheers > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 10 08:37:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0910340454 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:37:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm25-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm25-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.73]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FAE640067 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:37:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.57] by nm25.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2013 15:33:49 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.239] by tm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2013 15:33:49 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1039.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2013 15:33:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 71341 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jan 2013 15:33:49 -0000 s=s1024; t=1357832029; bh=GkAMLkHXiKiPFeKhkjM3WHmrsAB21ike6UUcVOBDIkY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eDScnsI4+zDBuHQ2TQQaRMY2RZ5BvTQ9ekorYdAPrwO6Jlyiakt3ILmuxLVQ7lT6t0mcI5n+gukxv3xm3rT+TN2qNZH11e2Hfrse/X9z9nEBnWjLecKtcqhgQNiQ7TuHiB+wiH2Ax6Uex2OZ+PRLZ/78uniq/mfo41iAHPmjleM= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ATtTjHahHUoeyyz9pSw1wwH+AdgQX/PuFuxShAzbUvAXClbwNrKrkCBxIn2On55mBDle9oxMf/bfMpgohu0dqiqy2lBvY2/gBn3ibxI1fqKaTMNWwFQUbDyRzA2aOoAjQW2v0oayoqaKwBpGd+sg2iiIdQUzrbFwXerIXjYj5gg=; nsIF6DtvzQPq5zmVHLgRrzM8wVN9Vm5pNrzByVitoOmIP2EN8zT6cH8cVMGR NfzKazruaLAA69rgDCXgOZ0TQJxHoHEJKFcVo1gflJ2CLZGYLMMYir0N047Z UO9Dwj0P0uCmfTfwIhAINDbzl07nGUF3eY7vsz7J4xuBGdqSNlzt.QKXCiJM 1TMQD3u1dR7G1B5Z1JJmhZx2S99EOIwthQe5M2IJ4u0d30cKGUVjltdAFnNU BMGhBngwjUSzvNvzavCvqgQAtCsenkN90uRvEUrwkGI3MQflpkuLvxxAmtz3 JCL1ipp8mm8RK9O_9d7P6cu74ISBP3edkNP1ZPriqH.MGzJd_l2JJ0tvvUj2 XH7xS7B3SMJOwtFGcpWWCeW42gKIpo320.j66fEurxzFtQvJFVsdyhofsyxb hXrnHpMzZEvwFYj5OWq_dc2qy68HinMn4lUfvjG9K84_C5sm9TgezzQ-- Received: from [64.196.19.194] by web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 07:33:48 PST SSBtZWFudCBubyBkaXNyZXNwZWN0IHRvIGF1dG9jcm9zc2Vycy4gQW55b25lIHdobyBqdW1wcyBpbnRvIGEgY2FyLCBtYXNoZXMgdGhlIHBlZGFsIHRvIHRoZSBmbG9vciwgYW5kIGZlZWxzIGluIGNvbnRyb2wgd2hpbGUgc2xpZGluZyB0aGUgY2FyIHdoZXJlIHRoZXkgd2FudCBpcyBhICJ0cnVlIHJhY2VyIi4gSSBhYnNvbHV0ZWx5IGZlbGwgaW4gbG92ZSB3aXRoIGF1dG9jcm9zc2luZyBvbmx5IGJlaW5nIG91dCBhIGNvdXBsZSB0aW1lcy4gSXQgaGFzIHNwYXJrZWQgc29tZXRoaW5nIGluIG1lIHRoYXQgSSABMAEBAQE- References: Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 07:33:48 -0800 (PST) From: Shawn Frank To: "Robert M. Lang" Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] I'm joining the SCCA. Good or bad? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I meant no disrespect to autocrossers. Anyone who jumps into a car, mashes the pedal to the floor, and feels in control while sliding the car where they want is a "true racer". I absolutely fell in love with autocrossing only being out a couple times. It has sparked something in me that I want to not only chase, but overtake. I was meaning "real racing" being with a race specific car. The autocrossing still allows me to build on the car, try things out, and do it right, while honing skills needed that I don't have but am willing to learn. I am not a guy who thinks their way is the best. I am literally soaking it all in. Between this group of collaborated knowledge and skill, to the forums about my car, I have been learning a lot and am itching to get out there to see what I've learned so far. I am excited about being an auto crosser...Shawn ________________________________ From: Robert M. Lang To: my71spit13 Cc: Friends of Triumph Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] I'm joining the SCCA. Good or bad? On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, my71spit13 wrote: [stuff deleted] > each race towards a club racer. As soon as that time comes, the car will no longer be street legal so it can be a racer for real. I have a 71 This is just a point of information... I know it sounds trite, but autocrossers are "real racers" too. Granted autocross is different, but it's no less intense and there equal (for the most part) preparation. Actually, autocross is even more of a mental sport than road racing because you need to stay so focused. It's also good preparation for road racing because you learn the mental aspects as well as the car control - that's why some autocrossers transistion to road racers so well. Regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 10 08:49:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E5440425 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:49:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp07.bis6.us.blackberry.com (smtp07.bis6.us.blackberry.com [74.82.85.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8677403D5 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:49:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from b12.c8.bise6.blackberry ([192.168.0.112]) by srs.bis6.us.blackberry.com (8.13.7 TEAMON/8.13.7) with ESMTP id r0AFZVIJ011314 for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:45:55 GMT Sensitivity: Normal Cc: "FOT" From: gasket.works@gte.net Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:45:54 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Several years ago... When it came time to rebuild my car. I picked it up with a fork lift and power sprayed the bottom. Exposing cracks in the chassis frame. It was "DNR" I.e. Do Not Race ever. I dissasembled with plasma cutter, oxy acetaline, etc. @ the same time ordering a new chassis from RATCO. The chassis arrived. It was not perfect (very early product) but after some minor mods that Chuck Gee helped with we were in "buisiness". The only thing holding my car together w original chassis was the vintage 1967 roll bar . Btw the .120" wall thickness and 1.75 OD. Was Heavy and was used to stiffen the chassis. The RATCO did not require it. It's not cheap but an amazing. R.O.I. (Return on investment...). M Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 10 09:20:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF82940421 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:20:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm25-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm25-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.156]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA2D40418 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:19:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.215.143] by nm25.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2013 16:16:45 -0000 Received: from [98.139.173.187] by tm14.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2013 16:16:45 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp114-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2013 16:16:45 -0000 s=s1024; t=1357834605; bh=9yo+TuV8rC83n1pYJErJMZ4TkwDg+D3Mn8FO2tEwPw4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=VifvE/HGRR/5sIbYzkQXETa9hup+XkmDtHUJIzCJeAZe4QTp6T0VAZ5DE+zKAEbtt90wUczJZiGz/T16weA0JJIyyQsYVq7Z/5p4h5xvXJgDuecIs9Z1E8ZQBwFFja+vtp/o/6m7F6jVuPdQ1hMjGm+Oxo3y2YvApEXRqWJbBF8= 2tLb0OFH9vwybPelunoF3668Q66ILGPDC8lWcoR3Ow9M9E0sWlXvBqTGXsFW ukXzOG3SE_X8_9kulQJgTcBHK0ap_XceTGwvUcLqu43Uc2mj64tNHt5O_UPv bSa00wOc0apD9f1HBgIUaoVgfyoq3za6hyl684fFtvq3QZOx4lSFHvRyDEFy UEndNzkRVhOsUnnQVXv4y_GuVQwjodU.eLe70bnG_L5AnC2Is3kOJAp23zNn 7nqMrxdEN4aAt.yLrcm0723LefvWFV0YPClrfq2L9s.DBLPAy28uyaYIXotu dOWRUckq43gPlz6Z3ket.YgrELnr7Q3zH0I3CZI9P.nq_37JnkNCC3mJBycU r.8Fk5G0qAUe1xin4wtszku7m.obQCPU0jXuWqjj6sOs882tRwca7F3UB9ml bqPcXgpC1KG4Syghl6lzrbD.zEbtil.U2Fe9CMd3RoPG2NJr7u8Ebil2RVwg rjM06FoBlDOzES0C.qgkT.lYJrAKNbZAsGXY- Received: from [192.168.2.2] (Tylerpthompson@67.190.144.189 with xymcookie) by smtp114-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jan 2013 08:16:45 -0800 PST References: <8CFBCBEB99F6300-C24-31D6B@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> <8CFBCC92C94EEC0-C24-328FA@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> <000001cdef27$3a793f40$af6bbdc0$@com> From: "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:16:43 -0700 To: MadMarx Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In my spare time, I am building a TR4 daily driver. I got a street car frame from another FOT member. It looked good and is in very good shape. When I had it media blasted, I found cracks on the frame around lower wishbone mounting brackets, cross member, and near the motor mounts. Keep in mind that this is a stock TR4 frame not subjected to the stresses of racing. Had I not had it media blasted, I would never have seen these. Now it is primed and painted with Eastwood Chassis Black. The build begins.. Just places for you to look in your spare time... Ty #413 TR4 Sent from my iPad (Please excuse any errors or typos) On Jan 10, 2013, at 4:40 AM, "MadMarx" wrote: > So far I had at my car no crack after 8 years of racing. > I run a soft suspension maybe that's why? > > Cheers > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tylerpthompson@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 10 10:05:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14E9A4042F for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 10:05:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E95A40418 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 10:05:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mF091k00B16AWCUABH1tJm; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:01:53 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mH1r1k0074L5TyG8SH1sTq; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:01:52 +0000 From: Bud R To: TR4 Tony Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 10:01:51 -0700 References: <8CFBCBEB99F6300-C24-31D6B@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> <8CFBCC92C94EEC0-C24-328FA@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> <57D55F0D-C668-4E1B-A688-AA2B05CD8D31@virgin.net> s=q20121106; t=1357837313; bh=N54NXeI6vA1xM152ZmUIEWgy22ac/DPUzKerOIK4BpM=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=G8h20+znOOY5iaqe+oV2ik17pZqGnVHkDqty9kV3J7g00KsZTi6DKpCUR7MRW8SXm WUPrEAQki3l09tj6g9LmRDBTNdk0iNcAuVv3HQfEDJ29j85674kcYI7UgNouFd94P9 jYfraZuLYK4zy5h8W7K2mu8n/psE5XpnIVYzckqZXM5h5bTMOiIptcXVBD1ydQo5cb lRFGRnh5xaetXoTHZle/4WtH3vAIuYubdBBI3ry1V25uDhR6ffxUJhUHeADmBCYvNu lFzvZqpPnRK+YqtWyzZdRmtyEeloqJZJ3pxgCAGN5wJ7hEqpbJVi/fnBXkSto8YIRm R4Zt72B1wcMxA== Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Since we're talking chassis I'll offer up for sale an IRS TR4A bare frame that I have. Looks like I'm getting out of the TR4A business as I've already sold the TR4A wreck I had and I'm in the process of trading the Project (below) for an RV to use for pulling the Spit to vintage races this year and MAYBE to Wisconsin in September. Pics are available. The frame is solid (Jim Gray can testify) but I haven't really checked it for any of the cracks being talked about so I can't guarantee that it doesn't have any. Make me an offer. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Jan 10, 2013, at 2:28 AM, TR4 Tony wrote: > Joe > > It's worth taking a look at the sort of modifications that we do to > the TR4 > chassis for rallying. > > Clearly the sump guards and belly plates etc which are there to > protect vital > things from flying rocks and damage from heavy landings and two wheel > adventure are not required, however the reinforcement work is all > done to > preserve the integrity of the frame and proven by my gentle driving. > > In terms of the front suspension and towers; even the Works Rally > TR4s which > were nowhere as tough as say my TR4 Beastie had a number of filleted > plates > added on the joints and corners, all sides filled in on anything > that looked > like a box, the main cross member plated up with another 3mm of > steel and the > welded joints all reinforced using triangular fillets. You should > all be doing > this as the majority of cracking and failures are due to fatigue, > not from > impact loadings. > > Bear in mind that with one exception you are adding very small > segments of 2mm > thick steel, so weight gain is a few months of not eating at > macDonalds. > > If anyone wants I have a bare TR4 chassis on the ramp that is in be > process of > being repaired and taken from 1960's Works spec to 2013 Tony spec > right now, > so can give you chapter and verse with pictures. > > Best regards and Happy New Year to you all. > > Tony > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 9 Jan 2013, at 21:41, Joe Alexander wrote: > >> FOT: >> >> I got a nice email from Henry Frye this morning. Henry, knowing >> that we are >> reworking our TR4, pointed to inspecting the shock towers and >> anchor points >> for the cross member. He is exactly right. >> >> Although most everyone understands this, it bears drawing attention >> to it. >> >> This is why we are totally dismantling the TR4. Sean and I detected > something >> amiss with the front suspension as we discussed winter storage. >> That led to >> moving the chassis to Niehaus Restorations. Keith is a master >> welder/fabricator. >> >> We did some gusseting twenty years ago that helped for a long time, >> but >> finally the shock towers were exhibiting large cracks. The anchor >> points > for >> the cross member is light gauge sheet metal and they were crushed >> and torn. >> >> All of this was fixed and reinforced with better materials. The x- >> member > was >> showing rust and fatigue so it was redone. >> >> Sean painted the frame in an industrial grey so that we can better >> see what > is >> happening with frame. >> >> There has been some on track frame failures with TRs in the past. We > noticed >> something going on when #197 came off the track the last race in >> 2012. >> Ignoring it would have resulted in a serious failure in 2013. >> Perhaps a > free >> ride to medical, as well. >> >> Anyway, unless you are investing in a RATCO frame, this is a good >> time to do > a >> close inspection. >> >> >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> A. R. E. >> 645 1st Street >> Jesup, Iowa 50648 >> 319.464.4711 (cell) >> n197tr4@cs.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 10 10:18:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5E540517 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 10:18:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F2040419 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 10:18:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.36]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mDs71k0040mlR8UA3HF2uv; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:15:02 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mHF11k00N2yr1eL8XHF1xv; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:15:01 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:15:01 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Joe Alexander s=q20121106; t=1357838102; bh=tfI4tseP/AxM4+JtIAKsTtmAqxbGPUIzZ3Ms9SF/+vI=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=WPa6jHfmLTvi7DYAh4o1rNMZ+2rVyneV4Kzb3+PfnMj9pUa3MI5dFeVK6wrqxn0X5 jVDaZrkhhXvGQaZZK6Tu46z2u8DWGI9Qosv3OC+yIHdbKTrAuKj0hsqJpnGAtIojnx x1NtC921mfX/QkE9wlJbZpIfBEHcmCLOJU1OWpG6qz9JoeSeGYNMNh07aoV9K7xgcy GcwQhuGEtd7w4laWb14ZQ3Rl8BPRt6OzxkNd0PBQE2cHn+XziAshjlflNR/YnooTP4 KgKo8dvXZDv5EA0sVi6Vqy9y/syjdZvGUtYMxI3ld+k3xvS0Ux/vbH2S3DN9WBd8ol JI3sNx/7Gh14g== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I had to repair lower front suspension point cracks on my TR3 frame that were not evident until I had it media blasted and started grinding on it, read started grinding on it. The shock tower diagonals looked good too, until blasting revealed pin holes on the lower end. A center punch went through the rusty metal with ease. These frames rust from the inside out. Grinding particles from the cutting of the diagonal gathered around the cracks in the frame and only then did they became obvious. Had I not seen the pin holes, the frame would have been painted and reassembled. Instead, I went through an exhaustive process of strengthening and gusseting many areas of importance. I even welded extra tubing inside the body outriggers creating more substantial roll cage mounts. My car has been out of service since 1975, so that's a mere 15 years of use before this type of frame failure occurred and my car has only lived in California. Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Alexander" To: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:41:10 PM Subject: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE FOT: I got a nice email from Henry Frye this morning. Henry, knowing that we are reworking our TR4, pointed to inspecting the shock towers and anchor points for the cross member. He is exactly right. Although most everyone understands this, it bears drawing attention to it. This is why we are totally dismantling the TR4. Sean and I detected something amiss with the front suspension as we discussed winter storage. That led to moving the chassis to Niehaus Restorations. Keith is a master welder/fabricator. We did some gusseting twenty years ago that helped for a long time, but finally the shock towers were exhibiting large cracks. The anchor points for the cross member is light gauge sheet metal and they were crushed and torn. All of this was fixed and reinforced with better materials. The x-member was showing rust and fatigue so it was redone. Sean painted the frame in an industrial grey so that we can better see what is happening with frame. There has been some on track frame failures with TRs in the past. We noticed something going on when #197 came off the track the last race in 2012. Ignoring it would have resulted in a serious failure in 2013. Perhaps a free ride to medical, as well. Anyway, unless you are investing in a RATCO frame, this is a good time to do a close inspection. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 10 10:21:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836DF4043B for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 10:21:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C37440419 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 10:21:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.140]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id C829F1C0001DE; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:18:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mse001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mse001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.65]) by mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 8C4EAE00008A; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:18:34 -0500 (EST) From: N197TR4@cs.com Full-name: N197TR4 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:18:34 -0500 (EST) To: levilevi@comcast.net, tr4.tony@virgin.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1357838314; bh=bnJmMtyCdLPwARP97gd9zzgLa77z7NcK1UKp9firl4c=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EqlqxX32BuaS1/BW7tuAQb4CR3DlwxZFdbLIGOXX4YZt4419xGJGqRufPj868EBKJ efYYlbukQXqQ6KwrPR298wXjMmYcAO/1My2L7KpcomTMxL6vK5gvf/MUPb51KpFAwg qMoYNbXSZ6JMmBfVxriJiq1c391fT7SnDE1KCGfE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338c50eef7ea35ae Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net we would like to see you come regardless of whether you race or not. there are a lot of interesting people coming that are not racing...you would be one of them. > Since we're talking chassis I'll offer up for sale an IRS TR4A bare frame > that I have. Looks like I'm getting out of the TR4A business as I've > already sold the TR4A wreck I had and I'm in the process of trading the Project > (below) for an RV to use for pulling the Spit to vintage races this year > and MAYBE to Wisconsin in September. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 10 10:39:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB0E40524 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 10:39:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp4.pacifier.net (smtp4.pacifier.net [64.255.237.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC7A94041D for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 10:39:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.198.119.136] (mobile-166-137-212-231.mycingular.net [166.137.212.231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp4.pacifier.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1570038F03; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:36:20 -0800 (PST) References: <8CFBCBEB99F6300-C24-31D6B@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> <8CFBCC92C94EEC0-C24-328FA@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> <1357776447.81982.YahooMailRC@web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <92208FE9178D415CBADD74E9CD34F663@TRIUMPH.local> From: Justin Wagner Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:36:15 -0800 To: "" Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I recall in the late 80's a friend of mine had a problem with his street TR6 and I offered to slide under the car and see if I could figure out what was wrong... It was dark under there, but with a small dim work light, I quickly figured out that one of the long studs that the differential hangs from had snapped loose from the frame... ...but the horror came as I panned the little light around and looked at his frame... It was much like a submersible cam panning by an old Civil War Iron clad... peering through the big gaping holes in the wreck, your imagination takes over and you wonder if you're going to see the skeletons of the sailors that went down with the ship... I wasn't quite sure why his car hadn't simply collapsed already.... This was in California, but he had shipped his car from New Jersey.... --Justin On Jan 10, 2013, at 3:47 AM, wrote: > Good question. > > The ladder frames under the TR2-TR4 seem to be much more rust resistant than > the wishbone frames under the TR4A-TR6. I have come across numerous rusty > project cars over the years, and have seen plenty of rusted out TR3's and > 4's with what appear to be good frames, but I have never seen a rusty TR4A, > 250 or 6 that did not need extensive frame work. I should add I have come > across plenty of nice wishbone framed Triumphs sitting on frames in dire > need of attention. > > I know the spring towers and cross members are different between the ladder > and wishbone frames, and I believe the newer wishbone frame design is more > robust. However, because of their propensity for rust, I'd venture a guess > that the wishbone framed cars share the probability of failure in the areas > Joe mentioned. > > Remember, the stess we put on these cars running them on track with today's > racing tires is way beyond what the designers ever dreamed possible. You > need to reinforce many key areas, keep the frame clean, paint it with > something that will not hide cracks, and be very diligent with close > inspections between race weekends. > > Henry > yellow04@tr4racer.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "sherry robyn" > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE > > >> Do TR6s (1974) have this weakness also? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jmwagner@greenheart.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 10 11:30:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97FF940451 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 11:30:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm24.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm24.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.89]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E5740423 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 11:29:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.196] by nm24.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2013 18:26:45 -0000 Received: from [68.142.198.106] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2013 18:26:45 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp108.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2013 18:26:45 -0000 kVJCgGtcverDE504IbzNfxKCztRlh7oK9hZsJezHOQnU9hGs2WbiCX1H9hLk FYfvTkTh9mQw_ksxkbsgQRG8__ml05Kf1G5HNBfD.MyMeh8Z5LbF_4ZXPwfV QyMnNgxPnhgtV1O1PCkFvGbAcAtLH78UyefK.gL0yN8PZUPuOyW3hhTPlEKA R90NbP04d5ozxvvukEzQ0eo.Rt3oyYhML5afWAb2KPHOgonUVGJGMeoUECqL qhD8_vHLyTlfjffWYYWn2BXhwF3U9S1m3azvYiueKESWJAgiJ5kt2.O_J_HB ovCxR06FJHbX8KO1gmc4d2m.C1J41gY5A7EtOwzQGge5MqUAvtxtlzPeT47d fFP7qilI9VPzE3jLp5ObcVbVHHySyk8gPV0eAvKO3GObdA3swaV3eM5SedlO kXCPCUvb6hTnlmrE5e0iA7l3O4p6_dalwUhKEt4aVVbf5M.Rxdhbt_lrM3_g yurJboTwcF6_HmfLvrfpwJsjl3Fc- Received: from [192.168.1.77] (cartravel@99.98.59.54 with plain) by smtp108.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jan 2013 10:26:45 -0800 PST Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:26:54 -0600 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <8CFBCBEB99F6300-C24-31D6B@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com><8CFBCC92C94EEC0-C24-328FA@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> <1357776447.81982.YahooMailRC@web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <92208FE9178D415CBADD74E9CD34F663@TRIUMPH.local> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I don't think anyone mentioned that the IRS cars are notorious for weakness in the mounts for the differential and the brackets up front where the lower A arms mount. These usually fail without the added stresses of racing. I did a frame off restoration of my TR250 last year. It has resided in Oklahoma (a relatively dry state) and been garaged for all but its first 6 years. It body was relatively rust free as Triumphs go (solid floors, etc). After repairing and reinforcing the usual problem areas, I noticed a very small pinhole on the bottom near the center (called the T-shirt) area. The thin metal was only a few square inches and may have been partially because it had scraped bottom there at some point. Since these frames rust from the inside, I wonder how many are out there with thin metal, which has not yet rusted all the way through? It seems that a visual inspection is not sufficient. Is there some sort of sonic testing device which could be used to check it over. Larry On 1/10/2013 5:47 AM, yellow04@tr4racer.com wrote: > Good question. > > The ladder frames under the TR2-TR4 seem to be much more rust resistant than > the wishbone frames under the TR4A-TR6. I have come across numerous ru > project cars over the years, and have seen plenty of rusted out TR3's and > 4's with what appear to be good frames, but I have never seen a rusty TR4A, > 250 or 6 that did not need extensive frame work. I should add I have come > across plenty of nice wishbone framed Triumphs sitting on frames in dire > need of attention. > > I know the spring towers and cross members are different between the ladder > and wishbone frames, and I believe the newer wishbone frame design is more > robust. However, because of their propensity for rust, I'd venture a guess > that the wishbone framed cars share the probability of failure in the areas > Joe mentioned. > A > Remember, the stess we put on these cars running them on track with today's > racing tires is way beyond what the designers ever dreamed possible. You > need to reinforce many key areas, keep the frame clean, paint it with > something that will not hide cracks, and be very diligent with close > inspections between race weekends. > > Henry > yellow04@tr4racer.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "sherry robyn" > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE > > >> Do TR6s (1974) have this weakness also? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel@pobox.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 10 11:44:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643AA4044B for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 11:44:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BB04041C for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 11:44:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130110184126.NHJL10448.mta21.charter.net@imp09> for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:41:26 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([24.231.194.49]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id mJhQ1k00g14R4eo05JhR2Y; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:41:25 -0500 a=pqI+vdes0DpKFPsz35vwQA==:17 a=jl2ymW9NZSsA:10 a=2o3tOTUZXiUA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=ooenkLzrA2QA:10 a=kBOtJFpm3AiMDjBesY8A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=DfreYUrZHwavStrS:21 a=oMxXCKYluYqtEqHS:21 a=pqI+vdes0DpKFPsz35vwQA==:117 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:41:14 -0500 From: Glenn Franco User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <8CFBCBEB99F6300-C24-31D6B@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com><8CFBCC92C94EEC0-C24-328FA@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> <1357776447.81982.YahooMailRC@web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <92208FE9178D415CBADD74E9CD34F663@TRIUMPH.local> <50EF07EE.2070200@pobox.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have fixed a number of these IRS frames and reinforced and welded them back together. For the most part you can still get the cruciform plates and the outriggers pieces for the rear control arms. I always put a gusset top and bottom in that area. The biggest problem I have had of late has been cars with the tube shock conversions or "Break Me Here Brackets". They fracture and break off the shock/rear diff cross member. Replacement cross members are very hard to locate. I developed a brace to over come that and have installed it on many club members cars. My sonic test for a rusty frame is a good body shop pick hammer or similar. Midwest and Eastern frames disintegrate at the sight of one of those. Cut out the rusty area and replace with suitable thickness flat sheet ( I use .085" sheet as original). Glenn On 1/10/2013 1:26 PM, Larry Young wrote: > I don't think anyone mentioned that the IRS cars are notorious for > weakness in the mounts for the differential and the brackets up front > where the lower A arms mount. These usually fail without the added > stresses of racing. I did a frame off restoration of my TR250 last > year. It has resided in Oklahoma (a relatively dry state) and been > garaged for all but its first 6 years. It body was relatively rust > free as Triumphs go (solid floors, etc). After repairing and > reinforcing the usual problem areas, I noticed a very small pinhole > on the bottom near the center (called the T-shirt) area. The thin > metal was only a few square inches and may have been partially because > it had scraped bottom there at some point. Since these frames rust > from the inside, I wonder how many are out there with thin metal, > which has not yet rusted all the way through? It seems that a visual > inspection is not sufficient. Is there some sort of sonic testing > device which could be used to check it over. > Larry _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 10 12:18:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3A940443 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:18:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm12.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm12.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.139]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B2840329 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:18:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.97] by nm12.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2013 19:15:24 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.79] by tm2.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2013 19:15:24 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1016.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2013 19:15:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 67450 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jan 2013 19:15:23 -0000 s=s1024; t=1357845323; bh=ENGODtIZWjXHvjtSZX+HjqO0pKE2iWba+tpHotx6qJQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uNAbMR37n8WGxqLARCcnoKYSm47wPb0i9tghf47wHhxaVAqR5WkuBlVjG3vR2sbc9TtrL+CVjo0e8B3q22Lanys5gIqrG62opWkB94IPqXHxgzse5kuzEZSvcb2MsJ0UITOiSVMX9B/2hOkPlFi7IH5a82Eugns45HWi/Ow56VI= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AsG4suoJiVOZqlORnDg6e/eGoQmDUUyaIn9cpmUcKvaYa6MbrVIfAiCMMtWFKV7urw+BPybgDjZVfqIrXZWOIxk0S7Al3OhwrAUZsH0bU5gemq9WgQh2AbJl7JJp7kERxyebGDbxsztkr/p93PDILVqqTwB6OG0yjhzqo3ihcJc=; wezPuKJa9fJ.IbhB04svSLsMx4bmKeLXPg8gcwJr3dbCUXOD8.VS96_8wrHP nntKb41PPdMSAl7FRgi3BbuQugaOrmmls3ItLjHuMliJOZ3VFcyxchXH5F2T YfDH1BxB8myMlf6Gq6AoVZAAC9CAfQfeuZ8CpivEHGsfnkAdPLGvDi0drZBL HJ8TZES7Apq3.m4Ry22AuHvRulUvEt6bx5iCPVO.uS83VOp6ctanHm82fJC7 VBAL6FGFutrd2C81aGVoUsEazsaOapuNgr_s7z886Sn7qF_rXubJti_fuot7 YGKomPTghbbDKVwnKpHOGioG9FI3IafHd1DIr3T7HHLoWN9E691GbhcP_IIP XUeQfC2Jg_iaZFo2IMKuPzmvMV2EpZxLYKOjjqeWKNyA0EVXTRmI72CqJHVK TfB.szar1YIc9iT3QvN1Ca2k.skpknzfhUMuna08g2zGuxzSU0IR.xtq7G2P BVQSEhymhaVAQweF4WZ.nNgj6iJcOnZY5cNFwAQ-- Received: from [99.60.75.95] by web184801.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 11:15:23 PST VGFwcGluZyB3aXRoIGEgaGFtbWVyIHdvdWxkIHByb2JhYmx5IHRlbGwgeW91IGEgd2hvbGUgbG90LsKgIEppbQoKCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KRnJvbTogTGFycnkgWW91bmcgPGNhcnRyYXZlbEBwb2JveC5jb20.ClRvOiBmb3RAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQKU2VudDogVGh1LCBKYW51YXJ5IDEwLCAyMDEzIDEwOjI3OjM5IEFNClN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBbRm90XSBUUiBDSEFTU0lTIEZBVElHVUUgLSBBIENBVVRJT05BUlkgVEFMRQoKSSBkb24ndCB0aGluayBhbnlvbmUgbWVudGkBMAEBAQE- References: <8CFBCBEB99F6300-C24-31D6B@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com><8CFBCC92C94EEC0-C24-328FA@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> <1357776447.81982.YahooMailRC@web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <92208FE9178D415CBADD74E9CD34F663@TRIUMPH.local> <50EF07EE.2070200@pobox.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 11:15:23 -0800 (PST) From: sherry robyn To: Larry Young , fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tapping with a hammer would probably tell you a whole lot. Jim ________________________________ From: Larry Young To: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Thu, January 10, 2013 10:27:39 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE I don't think anyone mentioned that the IRS cars are notorious for weakness in the mounts for the differential and the brackets up front where the lower A arms mount. These usually fail without the added stresses of racing. I did a frame off restoration of my TR250 last year. It has resided in Oklahoma (a relatively dry state) and been garaged for all but its first 6 years. It body was relatively rust free as Triumphs go (solid floors, etc). After repairing and reinforcing the usual problem areas, I noticed a very small pinhole on the bottom near the center (called the T-shirt) area. The thin metal was only a few square inches and may have been partially because it had scraped bottom there at some point. Since these frames rust from the inside, I wonder how many are out there with thin metal, which has not yet rusted all the way through? It seems that a visual inspection is not sufficient. Is there some sort of sonic testing device which could be used to check it over. Larry On 1/10/2013 5:47 AM, yellow04@tr4racer.com wrote: > Good question. > > The ladder frames under the TR2-TR4 seem to be much more rust resistant than > the wishbone frames under the TR4A-TR6. I have come across numerous ru > project cars over the years, and have seen plenty of rusted out TR3's and > 4's with what appear to be good frames, but I have never seen a rusty TR4A, > 250 or 6 that did not need extensive frame work. I should add I have come > across plenty of nice wishbone framed Triumphs sitting on frames in dire > need of attention. > > I know the spring towers and cross members are different between the ladder > and wishbone frames, and I believe the newer wishbone frame design is more > robust. However, because of their propensity for rust, I'd venture a guess > that the wishbone framed cars share the probability of failure in the areas > Joe mentioned. > A > Remember, the stess we put on these cars running them on track with today's > racing tires is way beyond what the designers ever dreamed possible. You > need to reinforce many key areas, keep the frame clean, paint it with > something that will not hide cracks, and be very diligent with close > inspections between race weekends. > > Henry > yellow04@tr4racer.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "sherry robyn" > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE > > >> Do TR6s (1974) have this weakness also? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel@pobox.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sherryjimmy6116@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 10 12:38:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FDF640515 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:38:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9023B40324 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:38:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.20]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mJSV1k00Y0S2fkCA1Kbb5j; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 19:35:35 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([24.22.75.60]) by omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mKbZ1k00T1J37AG8VKbayb; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 19:35:34 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 11:35:32 -0800 From: Jim Norlin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <8CFBCBEB99F6300-C24-31D6B@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com><8CFBCC92C94EEC0-C24-328FA@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> <1357776447.81982.YahooMailRC@web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <92208FE9178D415CBADD74E9CD34F663@TRIUMPH.local> <50EF07EE.2070200@pobox.com> s=q20121106; t=1357846535; bh=/U6Kari1hjNrIuRUorM1kFNhZ3nteylL8K1kZBafxeY=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=mnVc97ejHkMcwpwvhH//DqMDtT/oK2cd5j7GSxquGxENOnWPdvUIPfwMx03vUN0gQ S/JjDaz4ldT/4ZyoDalRSEHRx8m4t6CfL7fm9TrgXLYTV2pchO9EU2iKORcktdK4bQ JgR+05POBm5HGm7Vm2nQ6iwC6w1ekgIRLiDeVAH86MP6LCuo2Mx8V6OEy3CGtBmVDH HVRlJZ33e/4XYCOiE2RpbKm1n6DdU9TknvAoCPsdxqC1ALlYi6vHoB0uu6/Gd1I7oH kPtyYnXzp4i1SykQPLdMKNG70dncum1cYDMKWvIn3Z8fnd970Yt4QL3hR5AQwetEzi aic+cAxM6dj4g== Subject: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ultrasonic Thickness testers are available. I've used one for work on several occasions. A quick internet search didn't find anything under $1000. Unfortunately, Harbor Freight hasn't come up with a cheapo version yet. On 1/10/2013 10:26 AM, Larry Young wrote: It seems that a visual inspection is not sufficient. Is there some sort of sonic testing device which could be used to check it over. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 10 15:28:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA74A40515 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:28:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f176.google.com (mail-ie0-f176.google.com [209.85.223.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B935940419 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:28:30 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f176.google.com with SMTP id 13so1532050iea.35 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:25:17 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=d8EDFh4EW4rOggEtJArkwsKLz04gGdf3uKaB3hhOOHE=; b=TgEhTnbVXFaOCdXUA7EXVyr8F5pOAC902XTMRvFyNeJV+AaI/imSO0pxCZO/VxARP5 oSmZ0onOjna/AcySBck4ame4JICrTh5SBT0qv3oLOXpA4mZ8swB+K8TXQL9ImliGMlz6 DnUdQ6+FLvpqsIpDEFAGGkE7FzuO0+fZhQjZQma1d8KaHERlBTz1edxx6mNvqevcLHwM nI/kRBNp2uMsvbEt7QZXLGI6a1CPvABHzhQ/WQ6pfMAirytaq1GJ2YytFhX0nMlo2vwH 68OzbejMDZmcbx8dTU3F7TUWmJtRQLJwibf/i+z/JRQYAlupl2ajXC7cNuWrAa9yWnQO wkHw== pp9mr6920538igc.46.1357856717472; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:25:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.11.227 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:24:37 -0800 (PST) From: Don Marshall Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:24:37 -0500 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] VR1 oil sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A year or so ago someone found Valvoline VR1 non-synthetic racing oil on sale at Autozone for half price and was kind enough to post it to the FOT list. I loaded up at the time but am just about out and would dearly love to stock up again. I suspect that there are others who would like to do the same. I have made it a practice to check the oil shelves any time I'm in any auto parts store just in case there's a sale going on, but have yet to find it again. If anyone happens to see such a sale, please make sure to let us all know. Oil isn't the most expensive racing part out there but every little bit helps. Thanks, Don _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 10 15:48:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44F540525 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:48:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm21-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm21-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4770540416 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:47:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm21.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2013 22:44:34 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.196] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2013 22:44:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1054.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2013 22:44:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 12223 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jan 2013 22:44:34 -0000 s=s1024; t=1357857874; bh=nWi6z8TVSSFCF+6xE8Ih8i+FEp4qoRZr5ZjzupxDAd8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TkJObSZFSVa+CcTgqAArMXx7VbdtCqSEMpyGANov+vRDiR9UNjiO8wzmSpI00n9mXNuS8Q+diIDC11ARGR7f7ytX/eoyJWm2ztJ9MzOzpfCpe6uXvMBtje8oX7wEfFzMhVlqDEO++oXk8yu678o6V55kD38luDjRqtmgE8+gYQQ= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JNLjIY23Z4vazneUwN9mfFiN/Et0ZtlzrG9hPDd5/DmNZTroZDZXOkke4utb3z32/oWSc1C2UtL0g3i7AJWoCraQZFw3W2xG5nd/NM7GpJGxYhCgnUpybxkzYCM6gBasbqpqueLG+GRPbE1LcPmWy5S/s/ueskzjDbph2E83HwY=; c9pn5Z.BtbdncE7_c.tQe0gFzlIko4rsSWoCjYahX0nIRqrru8r5rYxOSzkd piCJwavrkl2ZsyLonZL5hv_WkWMzTzA_FER7mURbrVaQSquBMGSGHbAnZiim KLMlXH0fhbwfOH56JlnTgCOvo94SiAjitUCb6fvGQlof_pULTVxPyr2tNqN9 Jc3guw8gz49W_h5gRABZGwSpwE7pUAH3z2DgmA6zv8vFWj_fFOL_B6iHc3MJ 0NCHq0MZClrKB7S_DMrJzy6ndDjVXpnaDe.9k3n7FA.r9C0zKVcbur9OS1_W kvKsLch2kSvzVjrAwWwdkhPSlV8qjgstERcmHxH6ehB8YRo.rqcjmf71pjRA R0x1X5e4UuMHJ7_wS2NgFMif.MDPdXs17DRXc5MOZK5wCA9_GMQ5Rjju3L2s zVeY0vzI.Spz13Lmw5Miop86ancSqTtmhuLoMuIQAzpI1TbIOuJnaw7EFsrT wlZXSW9r6mBzGgRhZD1Aw4jsD.E.Rlb7UUvm8.8YOUOOxzXC4oo5kc3R2fFB 8cnafrveqrTIa Received: from [64.196.19.194] by web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:44:34 PST SSB1c2UgVlIxIGFsc28sIGFuZCB3aWxsIGxldCB5b3UgYWxsIGtub3cgaWYgdGhlcmUgaXMgYSBzYWxlIGdvaW5nIG9uIGF0IGFueSBvZiB0aGUgbmF0aW9uYWwgY2hhaW5zIEkgZ28gdG8uLi5TaGF3biBGcmFuawoKIAoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KIEZyb206IERvbiBNYXJzaGFsbCA8ZG9ubWFyc2hhbGxAbmVmY29tLm5ldD4KVG86IEZyaWVuZHMgb2YgVHJpdW1waCA8Rk9UQGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0PiAKU2VudDogVGh1cnNkYXksIEphbnVhcnkgMTAsIDIwMTMgNDoyNCBQTQoBMAEBAQE- References: Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:44:34 -0800 (PST) From: Shawn Frank To: Don Marshall , Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] VR1 oil sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I use VR1 also, and will let you all know if there is a sale going on at any of the national chains I go to...Shawn Frank ________________________________ From: Don Marshall To: Friends of Triumph Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 4:24 PM Subject: [Fot] VR1 oil sale A year or so ago someone found Valvoline VR1 non-synthetic racing oil on sale at Autozone for half price and was kind enough to post it to the FOT list. I loaded up at the time but am just about out and would dearly love to stock up again. I suspect that there are others who would like to do the same. I have made it a practice to check the oil shelves any time I'm in any auto parts store just in case there's a sale going on, but have yet to find it again. If anyone happens to see such a sale, please make sure to let us all know. Oil isn't the most expensive racing part out there but every little bit helps. Thanks, Don _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/my71spit13@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 10 16:10:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3491B40442 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:10:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E186E4041C for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:10:04 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=hWTdwNoBlHQA:10 a=wkxU99YvAAAA:8 a=I6CRemXj10jPIBXfKJsA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=LkqSDAR4Yp4A:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:43982] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id E0/75-29976-A894FE05; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:06:51 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:06:50 +0000 From: Randall To: Friends of Triumph , Don Marshall Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [Fot] VR1 oil sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for reminding me! O'Reillys has (or had) VR1 synthetic on sale for $4.99 in the store, even though it doesn't appear for that price in any of their online ads. My local store was out when I was in there last week, but they said they should get more this week and the sale price was good until the 28th. I'm going to run over and stock up (if they have any). YMMV Randall ---- Don Marshall wrote: > A year or so ago someone found Valvoline VR1 non-synthetic racing oil on > sale at Autozone for half price _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 10 17:51:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642B140441 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:51:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31D9F4041C for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:51:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mQgR1k0070FhH24A1QoKPC; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 00:48:19 +0000 Received: from sz0063.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mQoK1k0012yr1eL8UQoKu8; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 00:48:19 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 00:48:18 +0000 (UTC) From: vintage.racer@comcast.net To: Friends of Triumph s=q20121106; t=1357865299; bh=Hb+ocV+8kNYRDu7mrNFAouYtPe4lZUfflgSqn6b0GFM=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=plRbcjSsoyiLfbhgT5w0TblATb/ZYSS8WBznvURrnn0aqULtP1YMcfo67un7D1C+Z FZFHSV5YJ4q6x+nZ6jfxlxR0HM4B1eUxGQqgA3v+FLJY4EbUWICB5Ya5zoxNaU1jLk Y2Wfe0Q1HqfOvG7Mt+HLtsYVII6Lf4eBVzNhkq5G7goOu5Pk9BUCUPevGgusKj7Jfs KoLpS+ZEQR/RmP/l93AJwUiw9z3plJ26UI8mn+sK45W2nFb14Mj9JhkGsfdNx6oXxS 88YEfHD8bEcT7OYEGYDNV/Ihi9MnSqAwPvGnCXwacrqdPJxMJz4zjPq3F8k+6CDKyQ ZgtKViaq9ftlw== Subject: [Fot] Track Day Foolishness Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Buckle up, turn up the sound and shake your head a this crashfest: Gary www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=IfHJCv_S6iI&NR=1 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 10 18:36:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C03E4042D for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:36:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F7240356 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:35:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mQ1x1k0051GXsucAFRYjNw; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 01:32:43 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mRYh1k00G4L5TyG8URYiiu; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 01:32:42 +0000 From: Bud R To: Glenn Franco Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:32:41 -0700 References: <8CFBCBEB99F6300-C24-31D6B@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com><8CFBCC92C94EEC0-C24-328FA@webmail-m154.sysops.aol.com> <1357776447.81982.YahooMailRC@web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <92208FE9178D415CBADD74E9CD34F663@TRIUMPH.local> <50EF07EE.2070200@pobox.com> <50EF0B4A.7090508@charter.net> s=q20121106; t=1357867963; bh=2qKUUuBniMQ67g7/orMJphIvfh+Ct1bV8u2kOKq4E1s=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=KgedSvYQx7Z0B2Tp24ja4b008TAy0bRmURqBFP7pFm2UGIUZ76iOfFXkzfTZLaC6S AnfXBGpXLp6mUdAk/DAgwtOwOpo3Sp4wpZta/wpD9g2ig599nsP6fL4tjsJlLaYMco khLeX8o/V+KZD1RDdb0S3UifNDv0QSuCUaoE7ayS73U9bC6WBTJBQ3KxnzvJm9B7ey /fVGR2VLbP68gsQ5uXa2GpE3qRjQV/hCoJDwtMP4XP/MXdlIjS/qcE9OEeH7wdnLC+ EEpRS1kNEdqmRdZVlRF+CMpJ90gI7b7TGvvyq19pUXJFcDowPPqGTArqz8hexpscJa m3uJv8dTyEjsw== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR CHASSIS FATIGUE - A CAUTIONARY TALE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I had exactly that happen to my TR6 on the way back from VTR2007 at Valley Forge. Ripped a piece right out of the cross member. Lucky to make it home. I welded the piece back and went back to my old lever arm Armstrongs rebuilt by Apple Hyd. to heavy duty. I think the mistake I made was not adjusting the bump stops so they would engage before the shock reached its limit. Once that happens it looks for the weak spot which seems to be that cross member. If I go back to the tube shocks I'll weld a 1 inch piece of square stock up in the cross member so that it becomes four sided instead of the stock three. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Jan 10, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Glenn Franco wrote: > The biggest problem I have had of late has been cars with the tube > shock conversions or "Break Me Here Brackets". > They fracture and break off the shock/rear diff cross member. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 11 01:26:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B3B40572 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 01:26:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f44.google.com (mail-ee0-f44.google.com [74.125.83.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B47C040560 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 01:26:10 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ee0-f44.google.com with SMTP id l10so697380eei.17 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 00:22:55 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=LKC6R4TL73s6VGLZJbVNUGSYNLaizU4e76VZAvDNs3U=; b=ZaXrELY/+7MZJL3EPavw1BWx3vlfm4MOrJ4nzSVbHZsAt6OVEzz33G/B9Couq+wQ+4 svKSaSOro5oo5iPSYUuP5RxFQIRdrzhhNghppNqgqhG+Hq15yDuG/SWNoDiaXQtoH4P7 /6qKQzZZS+4fMlcACTcC1lZwel1NMlTsB7idZpv34duec2BzK3eBhPyKl13ntXiKi3vP FWcoVdwpdfr+YOjWyAo4yPATrTcFDcSc1A3TbTsg7xZEhbYH6B6167qQRqvkj0wbfWJF s84XA4hTByQ9mXBMZAW26nXNg90N+firXJ7i0UtY8ggTYK3eFp7kmM0BnRuxmEAn6/Uu rMUQ== f44mr199961347eem.14.1357892575124; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 00:22:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home ([46.78.132.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f49sm7554545eep.12.2013.01.11.00.22.54 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 11 Jan 2013 00:22:54 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <1767942974.2307370.1357865298989.JavaMail.root@sz0063a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 09:22:53 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac3vlWbz18VOu4yjRB6M7nnKRC+lrwAPy2Vg Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Track Day Foolishness Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yep, the Nordschleife is not an easy playground. How it should be: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tnLC9F5UQo :-) Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von vintage.racer@comcast.net Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Januar 2013 01:48 An: Friends of Triumph Betreff: [Fot] Track Day Foolishness Buckle up, turn up the sound and shake your head a this crashfest: Gary www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=IfHJCv_S6iI&NR=1 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 11 05:11:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBFD34068D for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 05:11:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8C740565 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 05:09:45 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=6s4+qZ8z+DoHXpUX8hi4nQ==:17 a=sWCuCOz7VXUA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=lmnNEcqG9cEA:10 a=pcLIrrrKAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=M3QHBQZAyRJa1oKiwNYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=ftFGBYpk1mUA:10 a=IQn5YRRdceID8lZW:21 a=oJNUuO-lVLfoxFTm:21 a=6s4+qZ8z+DoHXpUX8hi4nQ==:117 Received: from [64.134.145.206] ([64.134.145.206:51308] helo=[192.168.6.175]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id E1/D8-25866-54000F05; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 12:06:29 +0000 References: <1357489528.59378.YahooMailRC@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <72F73456BC644FF8943306A05BC717FE@hpd530> <50EC3306.2080407@gmail.com> <000001cdedb9$0a8c6c40$1fa544c0$@sbcglobal.net> From: Bob Kramer Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 06:06:28 -0600 To: Doug Mitchell Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Harbor Freight Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Cheap tools are great for making "special tools". I needed a very narrow open end large wrench for TR6 hubs and a HF crescent was the best option once I ground it down. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 8, 2013, at 9:58 AM, "Doug Mitchell" wrote: > I have a set of socket wrenches that I bought at Penney's over 40 years ago. > I bought them because they > were about 10-15% less than the Craftsman brand. They had the same lifetime > guarantee as Sears. Unfortunately, > they stopped selling tools in the early '80s. Still work great, other than > the 7/16 that some got lost under the > carpet of the Spit for about 20 years. A Snap-On found on the race track > replaced that. > > As for Harbor Freight and other el cheapo tools, I will buy them as a one > time deal for limited jobs. But when they > need replacing, I try to buy quality. I bought a cheap tap and die set years > ago. As the original wear out, they get > replaced with good stuff. > > Doug > > -- > Doug Mitchell > dmitchel@sbcglobal.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 9:54 AM > To: FOT > Subject: Re: [Fot] Harbor Freight > > On 1/7/13 10:29 PM, Bill Tobin wrote: >> Funny how "China Freight" always uses cutesy names for their stuff: US >> General, Chicago Hydraulics, etc. > After WWII and well into the 1960's Japanese products for export to the US > followed the same strategy. Provide a name that Americans would be > comfortable with that would give the impression of quality and reliability. > > Growing up my first sewing machine was made in Japan and carried the brand > name "Stradivarius" . > > My first tools were acquired on an as needed basis one at a time as I needed > to get something done when I could not afford a pro to perform the task. I > would go to a shop. They would diagnose the problem and give me an estimate > I could not afford. I would then go to the library and read everything I > could find about that part of a car. Then I would go to the parts store > and purchase the part. Then I would give it a go. Usually the process would > look more like a keystone comedy skit from the Lucille Ball show with me > accidentally taking off wrong parts, breaking things because I didn't know > how to use a tool properly or taking off too many parts. I once or twice > had a spark plug launch itself off the engine whilst driving down a road > because I didn't get it on tight enough. And of course by the time I stopped > work on a project I had more grease and grime on me than the vehicle had on > it. > > At first a car project would usually include multiple trips to purchase a > tool I did not have but perceived I needed for the next step of the project. > My first breaker bar, short extension and spark plug socket carried the > brand name "J.C. Penny". Yes Penny's used to sell tools that carried their > name. > > TeriAnn > If I'd had enough money back then to pay a mechanic I would never have > learned how to turn a wrench. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dmitchel@sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 11 13:39:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F0EF40E32 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 13:39:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f180.google.com (mail-ob0-f180.google.com [209.85.214.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7213D40E27 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 13:39:12 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ob0-f180.google.com with SMTP id wd20so2099807obb.25 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 12:35:55 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=EuvnOON64deQxZ6Zl0In2uTp+oSbdZpILGG8vq76lek=; b=GlqAfiORSLprHH5+OCshIujzm9BqIQAeYgmOE54OPXdMygCTafLHyCC8aUnFLWtNsc 0vZljnkSfLw+YMhJZVNrbOm2Yyf7l4spLMwnHSoexeQrwVOOqkSv8ae9BgchAxKdg308 Djw5ObtB0EnkAjOGQCd5jNTms4Xfsu9nS9ImzUIZRnUA8QZl/34xptkhED0kim58lVD2 uGg+MEMYcr6Cy9XkN5PTke25JedUE/5KyQQAfI4A19Ba+i9pUVCHNNZwx8GxVTQloNdg Oxfcso7IZlNjpX0DU1QQlhdT80T+WlyGVIQwDg8CIzMfTOEOAejg/WlQlmMDNUXHvjRD 7SEw== h6mr44727037oec.64.1357936555727; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 12:35:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.7] (client-69.170.103.221.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.221]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u1sm4443483oee.8.2013.01.11.12.35.54 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 11 Jan 2013 12:35:55 -0800 (PST) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 14:35:52 -0600 References: <1357489528.59378.YahooMailRC@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <72F73456BC644FF8943306A05BC717FE@hpd530> <50EC3306.2080407@gmail.com> <000001cdedb9$0a8c6c40$1fa544c0$@sbcglobal.net> To: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Harbor Freight Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Don't forget pawn shop tools. About ten years ago I found the size specifications for Whitworth wrenches, so I bought 8 or 10 reasonably good quality open end wrenches from a pawn shop and ground them to size. Duncan (Texas) 1952 Morgan Plus 4 Red #6 On Jan 11, 2013, at 6:06 AM, Bob Kramer wrote: > Cheap tools are great for making "special tools". I needed a very narrow open > end large wrench for TR6 hubs and a HF crescent was the best option once I > ground it down. > > Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 11 14:43:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A07640E39 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 14:43:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687E640E30; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 14:43:41 -0700 (MST) a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:17 a=7KaaxAUCt-sA:10 a=ea2r1mmZTccA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=AiMmcgjTtSEA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=YpiiUBjHUV6d6v72iWwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MmbLqpAq6iP77cOO:21 a=bf94dox9Tr9rxc25:21 a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:117 Received: from [67.255.16.235] ([67.255.16.235:57062] helo=Shop) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 14/6A-01424-7C680F05; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 21:40:24 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: "'Glenn Franco'" , "'Friends of triumph'" , <6pack@autox.team.net>, References: <50F080C2.1080007@charter.net> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:40:28 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac3wQOe724UUTnLnSseAoUAUGYtdagAAnwAg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] County Pistons Quality Control Issue Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Most of the County piston products are NOW made in .......yep you guessed it; CHINA! They're cheap but you better check every possible dimension on them. Also inspect the casting quality for fractures. The days of quality parts are long gone. Many are not willing to pay for quality so there's no demand for good parts, just cheap prices. Sad but I too remember being able to open bearings up and also Hepolite A/E piston boxes and they were superior to what is offered today. The new motto is, "You get what you pay for..........and then only if you're lucky!" Russ Moore -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Glenn Franco Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 4:15 PM To: Friends of triumph; 6pack@autox.team.net; spitfires@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] County Pistons Quality Control Issue FYI I am in the midst of a TR6 Rebuild with an engine that is .020" overbored. While fitting up the pistons and checking clearances everything checked out and the bore was concentric and to specs. With the piston installed in the bore I noticed increased drag with #1 piston installed. With rings gaps, skirt clearance correct I pulled the piston and didn't see any issues. Further inspection showed that the piston was cocked in the bore and had score marks on the bottom of one skirt with the same wear just below the oil ring on the other side. After inspecting it with the machine shop we noticed that the ring grooves were not fully machined on one side of the piston. The rings would not move far enough in the groove and was proud of the surface causing the piston to cock in the bore. We collectively have not seen this before and have a new set of AE pistons not County on the way. Having spent many years in Automotive Engineering at one of the former Big Three, these events are usually not one of's. There likely are many more out there that ran down the line in the same batch at the same time before it was caught. These are new County Piston sets (I think made in Israel now). I would inspect their parts very closely before you install them. I also noticed machine chips in the machined groove of their Tri-Metal Main Bearings (Israel). The chips were in the machined groove and were plated over with the babbit and copper. I have had very good experiences with their parts in the past. Just thought I would provide a heads up. Glenn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 11 14:51:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B8940E5D for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 14:51:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm3-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm3-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.108]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E151A40E2C for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 14:51:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.105] by nm3.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jan 2013 21:47:54 -0000 Received: from [67.195.22.108] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jan 2013 21:47:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp104.rog.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jan 2013 21:47:54 -0000 s=s1024; t=1357940874; bh=d2b510E/XyXViOQFH398NMHi65y21rp/jc1b0JIAVbY=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=XoNQbZYf3gpCrNHvJFP6FsAIsbvUw6hDtMHashl/mg5U4sHigfjilv22U3vbiihcVX9aVAB4IREeJ5o2ejpyOuXkIfZ9cRDU6woG3uSgrSTeYZAMxuK4bcD9+Rpqe3SwSHhCQVPkQ5NJU4JU/lLo5CNZO6bc+pRWcwH85D2mnoA= .nSvmNmGTDRoxW5G9va13hkMsw4..Gn3W9SyDCEnnNsi9Hgxty1BJIyWtVVG vzGl1lH5f9FdgUTL.eQZu2yPRW1PjysY07lLbgbuUGzop2FqPcinvC6O1P6j 9wA_jXdhbyYA4sO_wewfkYEwS1VWpQjk635Q6yWyOfP3WBHtnRrUEDCY8a_A pqorImTNAkwyCytHz5_fNPSQ1tt8h2rS1TxAuLndlHSlw4bDL_3B7P8ewtcQ fDIh2ASyrnaHF4FpoWVAt9dYLPFN.sm5jSBQgPuoRA6efa9no.JjmyRYQCGn oyt8kLwaFsltVN33gtZlap7VpQtsTyp8Ri4G4qxIscSWsOVsd2VH.8BqtqyE s7LKr1Mn4dSLjUZ3jbxVdonJDO7suLX_jgY_gI_9xBRtVWQhI5FRAWxCmxKm aiIJLoVeqQNn.vaS0vK0kk0bRTypmqFl6XcMMUuQWfWEx8YajnDip82I0MId vVG8aFcGOMBsozaaqRbaXeCC28TtqTaCbp1vf3ZTtJFVoBlaQCRUA9Firj1d Hh3sES9tRTsTKPQ-- Received: from PaulPC (macdonaldp@173.33.61.212 with login) by smtp104.rog.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jan 2013 13:47:54 -0800 PST From: "Paul MacDonald" To: "Fot" Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:48:04 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac3wRVX4vouqSfZxRXmTxN8iLWPVnw== Content-Language: en-ca Subject: [Fot] A Good Laugh Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net http://www.casc.on.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=26777 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 11 14:57:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B539940E6C for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 14:57:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mailrtr01.ntelos.net (mailrtr01.ntelos.net [216.12.0.101]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA7040E44 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 14:57:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from webmail.ntelos.net (webmail.lumos.net [209.145.64.96]) by mailrtr01.ntelos.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id r0BLrgdh022558; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 21:53:42 GMT Received: from d-128-234-204.bootp.Virginia.EDU (d-128-234-204.bootp.Virginia.EDU [128.143.234.204]) by webmail.ntelos.net with HTTP (SquirrelMail authenticated user rjl6n@cstone.net); Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:53:43 -0500 References: <005b01cdf045$566dab90$034902b0$@rogers.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:53:43 -0500 From: "R. John Lye" To: "Paul MacDonald" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 Cc: Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] A Good Laugh Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net No idea if the story is true or not, but it sure is funny! John On Fri, January 11, 2013 4:48 pm, Paul MacDonald wrote: > http://www.casc.on.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=26777 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 11 15:03:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CD8140E53 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:03:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A7584044B; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:03:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130111220029.LZAO10448.mta21.charter.net@imp10>; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:00:29 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([24.231.194.49]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id mm0U1k00Z14R4eo05m0VDq; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:00:29 -0500 a=pqI+vdes0DpKFPsz35vwQA==:17 a=jl2ymW9NZSsA:10 a=YxWCzKH7cpkA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=UZ0QSqJ3p40A:10 a=yUjkSF3uL3nmMSiGcrIA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=pqI+vdes0DpKFPsz35vwQA==:117 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:00:19 -0500 From: Glenn Franco User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: Friends of triumph , 6pack@autox.team.net, spitfires@autox.team.net References: <50F080C2.1080007@charter.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] County Pistons Taiwan Quality Control Issue Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Correction County Pistons are made in Taiwan. On 1/11/2013 4:14 PM, Glenn Franco wrote: > FYI > I am in the midst of a TR6 Rebuild with an engine that is .020" > overbored. > While fitting up the pistons and checking clearances everything > checked out and the bore was concentric and to specs. > With the piston installed in the bore I noticed increased drag with #1 > piston installed. > With rings gaps, skirt clearance correct I pulled the piston and > didn't see any issues. > Further inspection showed that the piston was cocked in the bore and > had score marks on the bottom of one skirt with the same wear just > below the oil ring on the other side. > After inspecting it with the machine shop we noticed that the ring > grooves were not fully machined on one side of the piston. > The rings would not move far enough in the groove and was proud of the > surface causing the piston to cock in the bore. > We collectively have not seen this before and have a new set of AE > pistons not County on the way. > > Having spent many years in Automotive Engineering at one of the former > Big Three, these events are usually not one of's. > There likely are many more out there that ran down the line in the > same batch at the same time before it was caught. > > These are new County Piston sets (I think made in Israel now). > I would inspect their parts very closely before you install them. > > I also noticed machine chips in the machined groove of their Tri-Metal > Main Bearings (Israel). > The chips were in the machined groove and were plated over with the > babbit and copper. > > I have had very good experiences with their parts in the past. > Just thought I would provide a heads up. > > Glenn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 11 15:07:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B332F40F60 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:07:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B0740E53; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:05:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130111220206.ERYH6169.mta11.charter.net@imp11>; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:02:06 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([24.231.194.49]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id mm251k00E14R4eo05m26R4; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:02:06 -0500 a=pqI+vdes0DpKFPsz35vwQA==:17 a=jl2ymW9NZSsA:10 a=PMlmveXpXoEA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=9qPJxFxHhiwA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=q5FGGDYuAAAA:8 a=Wv4Tjen9XLoujjXiSkQA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=pd5h6QqLeuQA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=3ICTHM0aRbiL1bUkkWEA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=1Be3FuTGn6hEQYRG:21 a=pqI+vdes0DpKFPsz35vwQA==:117 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:01:55 -0500 From: Glenn Franco User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: Doug Braun References: <50F080C2.1080007@charter.net> Cc: spitfires@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net, Friends of triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] [Spits] County Pistons Quality Control Issue Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes the County Rockers are made in India. They usually have better quality control than most. On 1/11/2013 4:33 PM, Doug Braun wrote: > Another horror story: > > A while back I replaced my Spit's rocker arm shaft with the part that > most vendors sold. I believe it was "County" > branded, and it was made in India. I went to adjust the valves a few > days later, and I noticed that the front four rocker arms > seemed rather oil-starved. When I ran the engine with the rocker arm > cover off, I could see that only the rear four rocker > arms were getting lubricated. > It turned out that the shaft was not completely hollow: They had > rifle-drilled it inwards from each end, but they did not drill > deep enough, and the two holes did not meet up in the center. > > Doug > > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Glenn Franco > FYI > I am in the midst of a TR6 Rebuild with an engine that is .020" > overbored. > While fitting up the pistons and checking clearances everything > checked out and the bore was concentric and to specs. > With the piston installed in the bore I noticed increased drag > with #1 piston installed. > With rings gaps, skirt clearance correct I pulled the piston and > didn't see any issues. > Further inspection showed that the piston was cocked in the bore > and had score marks on the bottom of one skirt with the same wear > just below the oil ring on the other side. > After inspecting it with the machine shop we noticed that the ring > grooves were not fully machined on one side of the piston. > The rings would not move far enough in the groove and was proud of > the surface causing the piston to cock in the bore. > We collectively have not seen this before and have a new set of AE > pistons not County on the way. > > Having spent many years in Automotive Engineering at one of the > former Big Three, these events are usually not one of's. > There likely are many more out there that ran down the line in the > same batch at the same time before it was caught. > > These are new County Piston sets (I think made in Israel now). > I would inspect their parts very closely before you install them. > > I also noticed machine chips in the machined groove of their > Tri-Metal Main Bearings (Israel). > The chips were in the machined groove and were plated over with > the babbit and copper. > > I have had very good experiences with their parts in the past. > Just thought I would provide a heads up. > > Glenn > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/doug@dougbraun.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 11 15:16:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095F540FDC for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:16:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4AEA40E9E for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:15:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mfdw1k0070x6nqcACmCewh; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 22:12:38 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mmCd1k00C2vctGa8YmCdHp; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 22:12:38 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "Paul MacDonald" , "Fot" References: <005b01cdf045$566dab90$034902b0$@rogers.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 14:12:41 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1357942358; bh=h/UFzwaYgPlK/BX3QmiBBUyCUmxhAgZkWFy2SqrPvW4=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EblswmCAHwg9Gwk7z1PzDho9SRhzLiYP8Eiv+/8Zo4GLVBiD5EyUQCZSH2q3zS3ZI 5D2cFv1lTk08a6JodQAXfkPWkFYZ3rnXTBsyHfCqLN9zLS/LNJ9AGcdJWnUzFUAu5l +v5m5kd1H+vdUt62jSiRAjH9kYMTa+ToDTWyJEncU/cj+hipZknEhxwlZMHPJHFK5d UsW9oo0majWqG9/OSuPVu7rdgZe8+nj7SKL8whOvxqcBhg/RViPny0k9/m0U3eTF76 BB21+m6iLSTYmrcPrEpLqZiWpYjSBaMnxet48IdjIr3Py6tRUT++uMWimQrKaVrOuH 0jb6anu7Dp2eg== Subject: Re: [Fot] A Good Laugh Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net HYSTERICAL!\ Thanks RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul MacDonald" To: "Fot" Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:48 PM Subject: [Fot] A Good Laugh > http://www.casc.on.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=26777 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 11 15:17:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C3C440E9E for ; 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Fri, 11 Jan 2013 14:14:19 -0800 (PST) References: <005b01cdf045$566dab90$034902b0$@rogers.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:14:19 -0500 From: robert bownes To: "R. John Lye" Cc: Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] A Good Laugh Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Many moons ago I was at a cocktail party in Belfast at the home of some friends of my parents. Patricia said 'Oh Bob, you are a car guy, you should meet Collin' and introduced me to a nice guy and we talked road racing and rallye for an hour or so. He said I really should give rallye a try and invited me to come out the next Irish Rallye. I wasn't going to be in country at the time, but said I thought it sounded grand and returned the invite to come out and play at Lime Rock some time. After he left I found out it was Collin McRea.... One of my class mates when I was in N. Ireland had an annoying little brother a few grades younger than us, in the same class as my sister. Never knew Eddie Irvine would go on to race in F1. :) On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 4:53 PM, R. John Lye wrote: > No idea if the story is true or not, but it sure > is funny! > > John > > > On Fri, January 11, 2013 4:48 pm, Paul MacDonald wrote: > > http://www.casc.on.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=26777 > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 11 15:45:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95CAF4044A for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:45:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE2E4040F; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:44:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130111224136.FLCD6169.mta11.charter.net@imp10>; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:41:36 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([24.231.194.49]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id mmhb1k00A14R4eo05mhcyf; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:41:36 -0500 a=pqI+vdes0DpKFPsz35vwQA==:17 a=jl2ymW9NZSsA:10 a=ikejhVzY-2cA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=2OImPrctCLYA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=q5FGGDYuAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=nlNdjYuGwfZ_9W2fVooA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=pd5h6QqLeuQA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=pqI+vdes0DpKFPsz35vwQA==:117 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:41:25 -0500 From: Glenn Franco User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: Body Wagner References: <50F080C2.1080007@charter.net> <50F08BD3.9000200@charter.net> <690F0574-316A-4FFD-9253-09734B72B958@aol.com> Cc: "spitfires@autox.team.net" , Doug Braun , "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>, Friends of triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] [Spits] County Pistons Quality Control Issue Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The new defective TR6 set I just installed are made in Taiwan. I just looked in my collection of NOS ones and I have 4 new .020" Spit County Pistons and those appear to be made in the UK but they are likely 10-15 yrs old or better. Glenn On 1/11/2013 5:19 PM, Body Wagner wrote: > Where are AE pistons made? > > Boyd C Wagner > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jan 11, 2013, at 5:01 PM, Glenn Franco wrote: > >> Yes the County Rockers are made in India. >> They usually have better quality control than most. >> >> On 1/11/2013 4:33 PM, Doug Braun wrote: >>> Another horror story: >>> >>> A while back I replaced my Spit's rocker arm shaft with the part that >>> most vendors sold. I believe it was "County" >>> branded, and it was made in India. I went to adjust the valves a few >>> days later, and I noticed that the front four rocker arms >>> seemed rather oil-starved. When I ran the engine with the rocker arm >>> cover off, I could see that only the rear four rocker >>> arms were getting lubricated. >>> It turned out that the shaft was not completely hollow: They had >>> rifle-drilled it inwards from each end, but they did not drill >>> deep enough, and the two holes did not meet up in the center. >>> >>> Doug >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Glenn Franco >> >>> FYI >>> I am in the midst of a TR6 Rebuild with an engine that is .020" >>> overbored. >>> While fitting up the pistons and checking clearances everything >>> checked out and the bore was concentric and to specs. >>> With the piston installed in the bore I noticed increased drag >>> with #1 piston installed. >>> With rings gaps, skirt clearance correct I pulled the piston and >>> didn't see any issues. >>> Further inspection showed that the piston was cocked in the bore >>> and had score marks on the bottom of one skirt with the same wear >>> just below the oil ring on the other side. >>> After inspecting it with the machine shop we noticed that the ring >>> grooves were not fully machined on one side of the piston. >>> The rings would not move far enough in the groove and was proud of >>> the surface causing the piston to cock in the bore. >>> We collectively have not seen this before and have a new set of AE >>> pistons not County on the way. >>> >>> Having spent many years in Automotive Engineering at one of the >>> former Big Three, these events are usually not one of's. >>> There likely are many more out there that ran down the line in the >>> same batch at the same time before it was caught. >>> >>> These are new County Piston sets (I think made in Israel now). >>> I would inspect their parts very closely before you install them. >>> >>> I also noticed machine chips in the machined groove of their >>> Tri-Metal Main Bearings (Israel). >>> The chips were in the machined groove and were plated over with >>> the babbit and copper. >>> >>> I have had very good experiences with their parts in the past. >>> Just thought I would provide a heads up. >>> >>> Glenn >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/doug@dougbraun.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/boydwagner3@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 11 15:52:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F023B40453 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:52:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654E8403D5 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:51:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.198]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7A506380000CA; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:48:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-98-235-149-216.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [98.235.149.216]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 2F602E0000EC; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:48:31 -0500 (EST) From: Body Wagner Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:54:53 -0500 To: Friends of triumph , 6pack@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1357944511; bh=w2/pa4HU8z23fi5Rs6Uhn2Ba+7Me5JnqwSY5MPAQpRQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=IIzoYotvZivB/jfoGIW3OFKwWRuM2QwVz1anrsAzOnwe2Be3spCYqa2Gq2/I67WMg HyzNL8LnQnhlgyB/iRI7kMkPeyP2lLnJt/OYoF9zAvNTxnsHYW2gcHx6XOfWewnF0K 7lCIgPcG206nj6srfeNXYJYyYmR5MNhXokZi62FM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c650f096bf2024 Subject: [Fot] race seats Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I am building a TR6 for auto crossing and hill climbing. I am searching for a seat that will be safe for this yet be comfortable as a road seat. Boyd Wagner _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 11 16:17:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA5A840431 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:17:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail175c2.megamailservers.com (mail175c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A892540424; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:17:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.231.47.105] (110.sub-174-252-179.myvzw.com [174.252.179.110]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail175c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r0BNEJSI016479 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:14:22 -0500 References: <5159678D-89A6-452D-A64A-F0F32EBC285D@aol.com> From: John Hasty Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:14:16 -0500 To: Body Wagner a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=5Kaz4Lu7JobF199EoZ30GQ==:17 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=BTvDyZpoe_jDycsaja8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=5Kaz4Lu7JobF199EoZ30GQ==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>, Friends of triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] race seats Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Butler......Charlotte/Concord.....will custom fit your seat & the price is same as the Kirkley seats you see on web. But don't know where you are. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2013, at 5:54 PM, Body Wagner wrote: > I am building a TR6 for auto crossing and hill climbing. I am searching for a > seat that will be safe for this yet be comfortable as a road seat. > > Boyd Wagner > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 11 16:18:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6889B4042D for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:18:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07D84044F; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:18:04 -0700 (MST) a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:17 a=a1-zNaUMPu0A:10 a=ikejhVzY-2cA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=2OImPrctCLYA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=q5FGGDYuAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=xhQ5M46jAAAA:8 a=lhmUH82aBg9_rB6rQ6MA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=Efwj4qSePvMA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=pd5h6QqLeuQA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=JVuWIGcTi1B3Qwl9:21 a=z4MCafFpf6LjGLDb:21 a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:117 Received: from [75.86.207.181] ([75.86.207.181:55792] helo=HPLaptop) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id FA/C5-03129-6EC90F05; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 23:14:46 +0000 From: "Steve Yott" To: "'Glenn Franco'" , "'Body Wagner'" Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:14:45 -0600 Organization: Silver Lake Triumphs Thread-Index: Ac3wTN7QXDq8L/HyQgqF7oCltutJwQAA+5sg Cc: spitfires@autox.team.net, 'Doug Braun' , 6pack@autox.team.net, 'Friends of triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] [Spits] County Pistons Quality Control Issue Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Funny that I received about an hour ago a new set of AE .020 pistons that I had ordered. They are made by NURAL in Poland which is a subsidiary of Federal Mogul. They look very nice in quality and are fitted with Goetze rings which look ok but they have the one piece oil control ring which I have never been crazy about. I prefer the Grant type 3 piece oil ring but these are easier to install! Steve Yott -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Glenn Franco Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 4:41 PM To: Body Wagner Cc: spitfires@autox.team.net; Doug Braun; 6pack@autox.team.net; Friends of triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] [Spits] County Pistons Quality Control Issue The new defective TR6 set I just installed are made in Taiwan. I just looked in my collection of NOS ones and I have 4 new .020" Spit County Pistons and those appear to be made in the UK but they are likely 10-15 yrs old or better. Glenn On 1/11/2013 5:19 PM, Body Wagner wrote: > Where are AE pistons made? > > Boyd C Wagner > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jan 11, 2013, at 5:01 PM, Glenn Franco wrote: > >> Yes the County Rockers are made in India. >> They usually have better quality control than most. >> >> On 1/11/2013 4:33 PM, Doug Braun wrote: >>> Another horror story: >>> >>> A while back I replaced my Spit's rocker arm shaft with the part >>> that most vendors sold. I believe it was "County" >>> branded, and it was made in India. I went to adjust the valves a >>> few days later, and I noticed that the front four rocker arms seemed >>> rather oil-starved. When I ran the engine with the rocker arm cover >>> off, I could see that only the rear four rocker arms were getting >>> lubricated. >>> It turned out that the shaft was not completely hollow: They had >>> rifle-drilled it inwards from each end, but they did not drill deep >>> enough, and the two holes did not meet up in the center. >>> >>> Doug >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Glenn Franco >> >>> FYI >>> I am in the midst of a TR6 Rebuild with an engine that is .020" >>> overbored. >>> While fitting up the pistons and checking clearances everything >>> checked out and the bore was concentric and to specs. >>> With the piston installed in the bore I noticed increased drag >>> with #1 piston installed. >>> With rings gaps, skirt clearance correct I pulled the piston and >>> didn't see any issues. >>> Further inspection showed that the piston was cocked in the bore >>> and had score marks on the bottom of one skirt with the same wear >>> just below the oil ring on the other side. >>> After inspecting it with the machine shop we noticed that the ring >>> grooves were not fully machined on one side of the piston. >>> The rings would not move far enough in the groove and was proud of >>> the surface causing the piston to cock in the bore. >>> We collectively have not seen this before and have a new set of AE >>> pistons not County on the way. >>> >>> Having spent many years in Automotive Engineering at one of the >>> former Big Three, these events are usually not one of's. >>> There likely are many more out there that ran down the line in the >>> same batch at the same time before it was caught. >>> >>> These are new County Piston sets (I think made in Israel now). >>> I would inspect their parts very closely before you install them. >>> >>> I also noticed machine chips in the machined groove of their >>> Tri-Metal Main Bearings (Israel). >>> The chips were in the machined groove and were plated over with >>> the babbit and copper. >>> >>> I have had very good experiences with their parts in the past. >>> Just thought I would provide a heads up. >>> >>> Glenn >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/doug@dougbraun.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/boydwagner3@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 11 16:21:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740A94043C for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:21:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D37E4003F for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:21:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id CF1B91C000064 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:17:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mse001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mse001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.65]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 7902CE000082 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:17:59 -0500 (EST) References: <8CFBE5702EEFC7E-1964-C93C@webmail-m160.sysops.aol.com> To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m160.sysops.aol.com (64.12.183.155) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:17:59 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:17:59 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1357946279; bh=wSE4CrOB0+syNFqGN6qTOLdu+bTubIBN47pugmctqZU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dKxYhiZxzyIjQbFH4HyhrRl/xvNIzxDlNOaW5ZEPUAvlGlxij3hedv0WHu3feguHP HCQsWrizcX1Xiu97ACCC+s9y9MJrMpjZFqvX8kupLbB1k0LAWR/sqj/RzvZaZG16LR J31WF0CxBLxpSEhOPua1/15oxRr1gZqU9y50hywI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb50f09da74f3b Subject: [Fot] KASTNER CUP 2013 Misc. Ramblings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT: A lot of time has been spent this week in discussion with VSCDA. I have a much better idea of we are going to fit into this great event. We also discussed some items of mutual benefit....a WIN/WIN is always a good thing. I plan to send a summary of our activities to WEBMASTER Henry Frye to be published in the GASKETWORKS supported website. fot-racing.com We are discussing our own touring session, package deals for the weekend, TR car show at the Welcome Dinner, Old Course re-enactment, sharing a hospitality tent.......the list goes on. I sent the event CHAIRPERSON Mike Korneli (Deb does a lot of the work, tho) John Clancy's "CALIFORNIA AIR", so they can get acquainted with Kas...and so they can see a KASTNER CUP in action at ROAD ATLANTA. Speaking of John Clancy triumphdvd.co.uk , we have asked John and his wife to join us at KCUP 2013. There's more, but it's in the planning stages. Steve Belfer is working on the next edition of our FOT/VTR poster and Marty Sukey is standing by on the production of the event shirts with a plan for distribution. TSI is involved again, with a high quality shirt. We have 21 'SPONSORS' to support the KCUP. One is anonymous, and one has donated twice. I need to catch the names up and hope to display at the KCUP. COMMERCIAL entities are welcome, too, but we have little to offer them if they are looking for a RETURN ON INVESTMENT. (Well, I guess we buy stuff from them.) More later, Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 11 16:51:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 567D740516 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:51:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from ewout02.consolidated.net (ewout02.consolidated.net [206.123.242.149]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A22F40421 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:51:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([72.251.169.90]) by ewout02.consolidated.net ({9744f80f-ffab-4f7d-80fc-0b2062ff99e3}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTPSA id 20130111234757693 (AUTH triumphs@consolidated.net); Fri, 11 Jan 2013 23:47:57 +0000 References: <005b01cdf045$566dab90$034902b0$@rogers.com> From: Home Consolidated Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:47:49 -0600 To: Paul MacDonald Cc: Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] A Good Laugh Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That's great. Thanks. Kg Sent from my iPad On Jan 11, 2013, at 3:48 PM, "Paul MacDonald" wrote: > http://www.casc.on.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=26777 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphs@consolidated.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 11 17:52:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E6F40448 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:52:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2031540439 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:52:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.22.217]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MGH001PAM9GDT40@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:48:54 -0600 (CST) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Duncan Charlton" , "FOT" References: <1357489528.59378.YahooMailRC@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <72F73456BC644FF8943306A05BC717FE@hpd530> <50EC3306.2080407@gmail.com> <000001cdedb9$0a8c6c40$1fa544c0$@sbcglobal.net> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:48:45 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Harbor Freight Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi All, I have a couple sets of Whitworth wrenches I'm not needing. If you have an interest give me a shout. I think some are King Dick brand. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duncan Charlton" To: "FOT" Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Harbor Freight > Don't forget pawn shop tools. About ten years ago I found the size > specifications for Whitworth wrenches, so I bought 8 or 10 reasonably good > quality open end wrenches from a pawn shop and ground them to size. > > Duncan > (Texas) > 1952 Morgan Plus 4 > Red #6 > > > On Jan 11, 2013, at 6:06 AM, Bob Kramer wrote: > >> Cheap tools are great for making "special tools". I needed a very narrow > open >> end large wrench for TR6 hubs and a HF crescent was the best option once >> I >> ground it down. >> >> Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 11 18:12:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA49740524 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:12:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm10.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm10.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F7940356 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:12:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.197] by nm10.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2013 01:09:24 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.111] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2013 01:09:24 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1016.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2013 01:09:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 53011 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Jan 2013 01:09:23 -0000 s=s1024; t=1357952963; bh=fzy8JwARpR9rIJmR2QmACVmVULRC2f/bqsDagDta7ec=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nEx4pNcHawN+mGhjSweHJ5FaSd8N4zdUKrDwWzPbZvkmkZEIUqeXxiumdIPUVW4hrNbyDcPPVzV0xn8vQ+SAklVdcU64D6PB7F0MXQXcoWnBAtP3Gm2ow5M2uTzVyhaqYiHeDI/HfVlLcwI5FrS9hKkW+2ocL5lUzLAI90/g2mY= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YlZFY/1vWcAldjC/KStzFu3ksTYyOOMZ7Wf0rII5u8mVt+OT+8tDpxiuzmIwDykOx9EM8tUE9AA3QcBa8dzD6viw7aC3TF+V81QALMLLyH47uN9l5vvDnkuoLwrdaIG/Ppg5EaYyEHZsuizSWyA2X6ormC9xUfqbezbQr3jFYpQ=; eq_7Gx4EVQKmU.wTvrXDq3pK3E9VAsYKyMy.5sSewXehe7xRPVMhMPuwAZH2 AfvsQ.CA1Q1f3qOGNTGet4Ud0z5kqU3Pm.ycd2J2vgQMYcMh7aF170Klh6Rv 6ifqgn1X5v0JAhSVFtfVWXHE9fn_myuO09OuihZ1688bKAsruXJH3QO_qXtB s3JkaBiX8UJStYlMwE7rX.lIGZiJ3QxjCeb4k6tqa.GiMK_5oemHrTz0B2Qg foJjvBhYf6WDPNC__CaVxJwMnuWjGgPSs3QEOP.ECe8tT4iHFl17.bCaf9hH 5rd03gc7SfmavhvBZbcydjEwhj4GCzYkM0Ty7TGYlhPoi9lwky5qAsrfUjnh kreGcQ.SnZYbnXo0l7Ai1OlInHZJMx51ST71KTFsVLpnSA4qZbd1Zu.ZqpA1 ER_D1cHNfBP.hHG4UxgQeVH67jjBTzcKzr7lXo5euVEGsElw.CSCRv7KIdBj qLbqysqXeJM0YrrjuCoes.ILX73PbdWsr7b1VeN9N0nUytAHrwJAXKWNK_v0 DL_iAe1cS6w14zwt.sMJVy0hIwgBOQbhA7tiQFNQwNNZmBSlbHcpZ4qrp Received: from [76.221.83.131] by web182205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:09:23 PST CgppZiB5b3UgaGF2ZSBhIHBhd24gc2hvcCBpbiB5b3VyIHRyYXZlbHMsIGdvIGluIGV2ZXJ5IG9uY2UgaW4gYSB3aGlsZSBpZiB5b3UncmUgCmN1cmlvdXMuLi4gCgpldmVyeSBvbmUgaXMgZGlmZmVyZW50Li4gIHRoZXJlIGFyZSBnb29kIGRlYWxzIHRvIGJlIGZvdW5kIGFjcm9zcyB0aGUgYm9hcmQsIApoZW5jZSBteSB0b29sc2FuZGpld2VscyBuYW1lICAgLi4uLiBuZXcgd2ViIHBhZ2UgaXMgICAgIHd3dy51bmNsZWpvZXNwYXduLmNvbSAgICAKCgp5ZXMgSSdtIHNlbGYgc2VydmluZyBpZiB5b3UncmUgaW4BMAEBAQE- References: <1357489528.59378.YahooMailRC@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <72F73456BC644FF8943306A05BC717FE@hpd530> <50EC3306.2080407@gmail.com> <000001cdedb9$0a8c6c40$1fa544c0$@sbcglobal.net> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:09:23 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: Duncan Charlton Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] Pawn Shopping Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net if you have a pawn shop in your travels, go in every once in a while if you're curious... every one is different.. there are good deals to be found across the board, hence my toolsandjewels name .... new web page is www.unclejoespawn.com yes I'm self serving if you're in Weatherford Texas you get the DEAL... no I'm not Uncle Joe Bobby Whitehead Pawn Star of CVAR ________________________________ From: Duncan Charlton To: FOT Sent: Fri, January 11, 2013 2:36:14 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Harbor Freight Don't forget pawn shop tools. About ten years ago I found the size specifications for Whitworth wrenches, so I bought 8 or 10 reasonably good quality open end wrenches from a pawn shop and ground them to size. Duncan (Texas) 1952 Morgan Plus 4 Red #6 On Jan 11, 2013, at 6:06 AM, Bob Kramer wrote: > Cheap tools are great for making "special tools". I needed a very narrow open > end large wrench for TR6 hubs and a HF crescent was the best option once I > ground it down. > > Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 11 18:17:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3819A40523 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:17:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D8DC403BA for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:17:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mhpk1k00A0cQ2SLACpDqfb; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 01:13:50 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mpDq1k0012vctGa8WpDqoE; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 01:13:50 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "Bobby Whitehead" , "Duncan Charlton" References: <1357489528.59378.YahooMailRC@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com><72F73456BC644FF8943306A05BC717FE@hpd530> <50EC3306.2080407@gmail.com><000001cdedb9$0a8c6c40$1fa544c0$@sbcglobal.net> <1357952963.52008.YahooMailRC@web182205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:13:54 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1357953230; bh=CUd8/8/bV36q0ffGISKihTGtQ8CPnCIb5801c4EdtBg=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JvDii8quPVG84/6HcjCXZ+FQlietX/PY/6L5RqldIqVMceQoG1qsMAagpi3PcPQpt ZpRcKKfnq94ItgW/V9DSN4ImjwdPGWbom72ZxlgKECwxgkkkOWeNrLSnNQpLDrm4aJ u2o0AHtqlDYCVHVk0Z2HN76pZk3p9GW7VLImW/E2nqosH6OclIC1rZJVPVnOmvmoiW ZOBvePLaTScKghEeTF4MSCTT9tdC81I+VbmmV+saMZ/sdkdfBZ25K+j7uvzrovRfml TEr/DP4kSB67qxmXTumvTEnSvbMBVgtb2AHbksSETpBxooFxx1GqJ7IvMBwvqZjnEV R6MYW3s2Py9Sw== Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Pawn Shopping Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net speaking of deals...for those of you in Central and Northern Ca...Sonoma Raceway has confirmed their swap meet on Sat, Feb 2nd...25.00 per space...no other details yet RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobby Whitehead" To: "Duncan Charlton" Cc: "FoT Triumph" Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 5:09 PM Subject: [Fot] Pawn Shopping > if you have a pawn shop in your travels, go in every once in a while if > you're > curious... > > every one is different.. there are good deals to be found across the > board, > hence my toolsandjewels name .... new web page is > www.unclejoespawn.com > > > yes I'm self serving if you're in Weatherford Texas you get the DEAL... > > no I'm not Uncle Joe > > Bobby Whitehead > Pawn Star of CVAR > > > > ________________________________ > From: Duncan Charlton > To: FOT > Sent: Fri, January 11, 2013 2:36:14 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Harbor Freight > > Don't forget pawn shop tools. About ten years ago I found the size > specifications for Whitworth wrenches, so I bought 8 or 10 reasonably good > quality open end wrenches from a pawn shop and ground them to size. > > Duncan > (Texas) > 1952 Morgan Plus 4 > Red #6 > > > On Jan 11, 2013, at 6:06 AM, Bob Kramer wrote: > >> Cheap tools are great for making "special tools". I needed a very narrow > open >> end large wrench for TR6 hubs and a HF crescent was the best option once >> I >> ground it down. >> >> Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 11 18:22:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002FE4051C for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:22:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm25.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm25.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.184]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93B04040F for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:22:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.152] by nm25.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2013 01:19:12 -0000 Received: from [98.139.173.186] by tm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2013 01:19:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp113-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2013 01:19:12 -0000 s=s1024; t=1357953552; bh=YolLXj7XMyOpV4p6eMq2sKLm58ARnJVIjcqZiycRv1I=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=p0L+0I9C4Y0Wos+MuJtjbJ/t6/tVZNnwdFjKerGKdCVKT3nSnLc1F5ey/ohIX7bUW35P/oVx3R7BfkOf/PsgK2LrDj/IDG0oPVoWw0yMqk/gvFqAmlNOB1/gCtDTpvJbl6NxpDLX1HY3u1qFvjaZn/+CgjYb7B/J4OuaHmN6OLU= 0BkkprR1Z9AWQs2Tj75Df34NbtRnCm.iTLP4DoVLjs0Y2ZoJFuR3Hb81Dgv2 INYQ1aEHdmqYviaFMCdyNa2MhnBSE85iI3h8SZfbQr0JRHLJ2ejNaX1jResQ o2voUli2qHFBFgDJH71LpsH6_wE7J004PRvdInq.K131lQuI8l7RfKfEppJa WJ_N7ZVQRJ5DIRPbXuHfAMjcR_hpRhSbbnXDuHaIo7U6RQhjZqoyd5aecmvN 0mwjBZk7FUeKJY98kg45_e27_NQgW_UPXXfZ95NjeBz4Bb5wEMJbM__g5x7M 2DfAFMzcoNWeks0p9tdrb_oXPyXV1rFn_e3VvOUuPvLEZzdMLCw71aX0bSci pLgtrwJV5xlF0ebHOrcqvVcEyJERk7suOj5ygfn5y7eIuwZTAFoGbGf9.RAh 7eUk6bvIr2gC1nVqudJF1YA57REyYAK_C3owv8b2PgIbd0eOmDBVPQp6IE.S RR07j2ctzSZ2A5kSzaS702X2ZTAKxID2O3JqJ_J4q.4dVwQCMcvpmZS3MKVb IdK897aXLLtPMb5aNaI3uaj.m22C6 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (yellow-green@99.43.68.42 with xymcookie) by smtp113-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jan 2013 17:19:11 -0800 PST References: <8CFBE5702EEFC7E-1964-C93C@webmail-m160.sysops.aol.com> <8CFBE6907A386CA-1964-D590@webmail-m160.sysops.aol.com> From: Dennis Delap Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:19:27 -0600 To: Joe Alexander Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] KASTNER CUP 2013 Misc. Ramblings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Speaking of the FOT website. Why is it so outdated? On Jan 11, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > FOT: > > A lot of time has been spent this week in discussion with VSCDA. I have a much > better idea of we are going to fit into this great event. We also discussed > some items of mutual benefit....a WIN/WIN is always a good thing. > > I plan to send a summary of our activities to WEBMASTER Henry Frye to be > published in the GASKETWORKS supported website. fot-racing.com > > We are discussing our own touring session, package deals for the weekend, TR > car show at the Welcome Dinner, Old Course re-enactment, sharing a hospitality > tent.......the list goes on. > > I sent the event CHAIRPERSON Mike Korneli (Deb does a lot of the work, tho) > John Clancy's "CALIFORNIA AIR", so they can get acquainted with Kas...and so > they can see a KASTNER CUP in action at ROAD ATLANTA. > > Speaking of John Clancy triumphdvd.co.uk , we have asked John and his wife > to join us at KCUP 2013. There's more, but it's in the planning stages. > > Steve Belfer is working on the next edition of our FOT/VTR poster and Marty > Sukey is standing by on the production of the event shirts with a plan for > distribution. TSI is involved again, with a high quality shirt. > > We have 21 'SPONSORS' to support the KCUP. One is anonymous, and one has > donated twice. I need to catch the names up and hope to display at the KCUP. > COMMERCIAL entities are welcome, too, but we have little to offer them if they > are looking for a RETURN ON INVESTMENT. (Well, I guess we buy stuff from > them.) > > More later, > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 11 18:27:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF5340527 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:27:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail168c2.megamailservers.com (mail168c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4944040F for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:27:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.242.221.181] (166.sub-174-228-71.myvzw.com [174.228.71.166]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail168c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r0C1ORkw027805 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 11 Jan 2013 20:24:30 -0500 References: <1357489528.59378.YahooMailRC@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <72F73456BC644FF8943306A05BC717FE@hpd530> <50EC3306.2080407@gmail.com> <000001cdedb9$0a8c6c40$1fa544c0$@sbcglobal.net> <1357952963.52008.YahooMailRC@web182205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: John Hasty Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 20:24:26 -0500 To: Bobby Whitehead a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=j7+s6siyqBYLG0nHPSCK/w==:17 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=cGn13A-HAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=_GKjNeBj5wgygBLdqU0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=7U8Ns5jhrObW3tvk:21 a=bb_WlDo_NgxNOoDX:21 a=j7+s6siyqBYLG0nHPSCK/w==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Pawn Shopping Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Gee whiz, Bobby, having collected tools since my "hot rod" days in the late 40's & 50's, I couldn't possibly tell you all the brands. For sure Sears was a big source, but I'm sure none of them had "dick" in the name Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2013, at 8:09 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > if you have a pawn shop in your travels, go in every once in a while if you're > curious... > > every one is different.. there are good deals to be found across the board, > hence my toolsandjewels name .... new web page is www.unclejoespawn.com > > > yes I'm self serving if you're in Weatherford Texas you get the DEAL... > > no I'm not Uncle Joe > > Bobby Whitehead > Pawn Star of CVAR > > > > ________________________________ > From: Duncan Charlton > To: FOT > Sent: Fri, January 11, 2013 2:36:14 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Harbor Freight > > Don't forget pawn shop tools. About ten years ago I found the size > specifications for Whitworth wrenches, so I bought 8 or 10 reasonably good > quality open end wrenches from a pawn shop and ground them to size. > > Duncan > (Texas) > 1952 Morgan Plus 4 > Red #6 > > > On Jan 11, 2013, at 6:06 AM, Bob Kramer wrote: > >> Cheap tools are great for making "special tools". I needed a very narrow > open >> end large wrench for TR6 hubs and a HF crescent was the best option once I >> ground it down. >> >> Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 11 18:31:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC48F40513 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:31:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C77140322 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:31:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71293A136B for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:29:21 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:29:20 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: FoT Triumph References: <1357489528.59378.YahooMailRC@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <72F73456BC644FF8943306A05BC717FE@hpd530> <50EC3306.2080407@gmail.com> <000001cdedb9$0a8c6c40$1fa544c0$@sbcglobal.net> <1357952963.52008.YahooMailRC@web182205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Pawn Shopping Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bobby Whitehead wrote: > if you have a pawn shop in your travels, go in every once in a while if you're > curious... > My favorite pawn shop score was getting a set of Snap-On wobble extensions for some ridiculously low price. I've been using them for decades, still look as good as new. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 11 18:34:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BFBA4044D for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:34:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm2-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm2-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.66]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE8C4040F for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:34:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.126] by nm2.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2013 01:31:19 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.102] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2013 01:31:19 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1007.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2013 01:31:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 20524 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Jan 2013 01:31:19 -0000 s=s1024; t=1357954279; bh=cf1rhwmkj05MSEweUewH4Nqto+80fLYPMc6buCWYhQk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tXOc7Y476ywTozclfWZJw0ABUXywoJV/pa/NCz1t55ulYhlkJpan7lN40wDfnL0txQTNFazvwcIApkDKEJzZVBZTilI8NyLmwybc1TDQwNckmcqF2z0lvrs2GoqwQAyAsRkgg1M4qCl5sFvmktb0WqGUSG6f4IuJKujBGHXT7B0= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WBsczcVam89zBSmVv8KM2yAbw5P1/g6X+fUfRwssJDkqlUFny6gKv4hBRjw4jpIHeswZ47OfCLP21/DDFb2vX8QLxykyLReYkta/97AhIkQqR3ddc7mAvwM0SfQuo3xMyu3nqYQV1SDd04zyZ8aqvNIZ40GCBy8wGOdH606Qu3A=; UOjY1QdtnaGdQBUkCn484j.GqDzan0RO205URSb9lGo5G8hNDNvD.OIqsV_2 xU4hG.JLfFcwPThc_hWXm1LRR2_B.eIwYPsMSLB.9nyOlOl9vyKMwGX5c.4x _EU5.9fbgp5EB3p2gYmYZ82ZKUXuub6mFcmrNflzStA9gYEbZ_1X2V7L1ko1 ai_xgtnpZ2DKbGRFKh0Btyw5M4X76oaWNimZI5mOJMkVxZoaVO2laxfATsjE UUL.c1zinnA24U_TFcPPb0O1aWsMwEgQb1LMZszFJclFQV1j9y0XufdBzFV5 GfAUd5GqD_WSEAopB6cuNyl3Vxwf2xRMbCX3S4hUBtG4cgPzJ7bny1YJTu7A WUoH0vojEPXceNY0oqThPvW0ipvRaGTa0uvZQNEUADHar62KhA8FhzqnswsZ Frh5C7vjLoBhzn2QtPibgvzvFvoh8lvKcjO_QWnKplUc6fZ7qe1w2aqCP4VW 28zkkCwbRE2GdluEdmqswOD4flXHXXjKr88x4irSsPLDd3GL_xSkvl6uF_fm jCulo6mnx.Q-- Received: from [76.221.83.131] by web182204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:31:19 PST ZGlkIEkgbWlzcyBzb21ldGhpbmc_ICAgIAoKCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KRnJvbTogSm9obiBIYXN0eSA8amhoYXN0eUBnZGhzLmNvbT4KVG86IEJvYmJ5IFdoaXRlaGVhZCA8aWdvZmFzdGVyQGF0dC5uZXQ.CkNjOiBEdW5jYW4gQ2hhcmx0b24gPGR1bmNhbi5jaGFybHRvbjU0QGdtYWlsLmNvbT47IEZvVCBUcml1bXBoIAo8Zm90QGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0PgpTZW50OiBGcmksIEphbnVhcnkgMTEsIDIwMTMgNzoyNDozMyBQTQpTdWJqZWN0OiBSZTogW0ZvdF0gUGF3biBTaG8BMAEBAQE- References: <1357489528.59378.YahooMailRC@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <72F73456BC644FF8943306A05BC717FE@hpd530> <50EC3306.2080407@gmail.com> <000001cdedb9$0a8c6c40$1fa544c0$@sbcglobal.net> <1357952963.52008.YahooMailRC@web182205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:31:19 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: John Hasty Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Pawn Shopping Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net did I miss something? ________________________________ From: John Hasty To: Bobby Whitehead Cc: Duncan Charlton ; FoT Triumph Sent: Fri, January 11, 2013 7:24:33 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Pawn Shopping Gee whiz, Bobby, having collected tools since my "hot rod" days in the late 40's & 50's, I couldn't possibly tell you all the brands. For sure Sears was a big source, but I'm sure none of them had "dick" in the name Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2013, at 8:09 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > if you have a pawn shop in your travels, go in every once in a while if you're > curious... > > every one is different.. there are good deals to be found across the board, > hence my toolsandjewels name .... new web page is www.unclejoespawn.com > > > > yes I'm self serving if you're in Weatherford Texas you get the DEAL... > > no I'm not Uncle Joe > > Bobby Whitehead > Pawn Star of CVAR > > > > ________________________________ > From: Duncan Charlton > To: FOT > Sent: Fri, January 11, 2013 2:36:14 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Harbor Freight > > Don't forget pawn shop tools. About ten years ago I found the size > specifications for Whitworth wrenches, so I bought 8 or 10 reasonably good > quality open end wrenches from a pawn shop and ground them to size. > > Duncan > (Texas) > 1952 Morgan Plus 4 > Red #6 > > > On Jan 11, 2013, at 6:06 AM, Bob Kramer wrote: > >> Cheap tools are great for making "special tools". I needed a very narrow > open >> end large wrench for TR6 hubs and a HF crescent was the best option once I >> ground it down. >> >> Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 11 18:41:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547444052B for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:41:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B0E40416 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:41:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.137]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E4F101C000049; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 20:38:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mse001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mse001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.65]) by mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id AAC64E000081; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 20:38:08 -0500 (EST) References: <8CFBE5702EEFC7E-1964-C93C@webmail-m160.sysops.aol.com> <8CFBE6907A386CA-1964-D590@webmail-m160.sysops.aol.com> <483AB8C0-6CEF-4CF5-8B9D-1785149B51BC@sbcglobal.net> To: yellow-green@sbcglobal.net Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m160.sysops.aol.com (64.12.183.155) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 11 Jan 2013 20:38:08 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 20:38:08 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1357954688; bh=c0K0eh7cE9zUuS1iDPyeCtKFz+u2nKp3Hi6IA864U8Q=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TEUYFKenp30zNsAx08T+s1JCYXdr5+qME6xQFlHTJ1FfTTO2gcjSz6gcXx2xoJ87k bVui8+o8HdwS6gg6dgvcxFz6877wcW4Qo9dGjBRPFmjwLGiuFcYQWJXzgcggEZjQ4B zSGo8tOn2F3uivbABEyPDnD3GtH6WwgF0/bRj/C4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338950f0be800bef Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] KASTNER CUP 2013 Misc. Ramblings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Because it is another one of volunteer positions....but we are working on getting KCUP 2013 info together now and henry will post. Jason has volunteered to help. Volunteers are good. they work cheap. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Delap To: Joe Alexander Cc: fot Sent: Fri, Jan 11, 2013 7:19 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] KASTNER CUP 2013 Misc. Ramblings Speaking of the FOT website. Why is it so outdated? On Jan 11, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > FOT: > > A lot of time has been spent this week in discussion with VSCDA. I have a much > better idea of we are going to fit into this great event. We also discussed > some items of mutual benefit....a WIN/WIN is always a good thing. > > I plan to send a summary of our activities to WEBMASTER Henry Frye to be > published in the GASKETWORKS supported website. fot-racing.com > > We are discussing our own touring session, package deals for the weekend, TR > car show at the Welcome Dinner, Old Course re-enactment, sharing a hospitality > tent.......the list goes on. > > I sent the event CHAIRPERSON Mike Korneli (Deb does a lot of the work, tho) > John Clancy's "CALIFORNIA AIR", so they can get acquainted with Kas...and so > they can see a KASTNER CUP in action at ROAD ATLANTA. > > Speaking of John Clancy triumphdvd.co.uk , we have asked John and his wife > to join us at KCUP 2013. There's more, but it's in the planning stages. > > Steve Belfer is working on the next edition of our FOT/VTR poster and Marty > Sukey is standing by on the production of the event shirts with a plan for > distribution. TSI is involved again, with a high quality shirt. > > We have 21 'SPONSORS' to support the KCUP. One is anonymous, and one has > donated twice. I need to catch the names up and hope to display at the KCUP. > COMMERCIAL entities are welcome, too, but we have little to offer them if they > are looking for a RETURN ON INVESTMENT. (Well, I guess we buy stuff from > them.) > > More later, > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 11 18:43:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7216940443 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:43:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594FE4040F for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:43:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.140]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id C068F1C0000BF; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 20:40:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mse001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mse001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.65]) by mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 7BB3AE000081; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 20:40:29 -0500 (EST) References: <1357489528.59378.YahooMailRC@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <72F73456BC644FF8943306A05BC717FE@hpd530> <50EC3306.2080407@gmail.com> <000001cdedb9$0a8c6c40$1fa544c0$@sbcglobal.net> <1357952963.52008.YahooMailRC@web182205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1357954279.9027.YahooMailRC@web182204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> To: igofaster@att.net, jhhasty@gdhs.com Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m160.sysops.aol.com (64.12.183.155) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 11 Jan 2013 20:40:29 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 20:40:29 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1357954829; bh=w7cHoV2DGlxhXapNBeY6JLvO3jpXOeL1qiZO6561BMA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Zfn/az+zwAnUjYIVYhaMS1sFnYxZWC7G4UKUaYIrBUhtYsg5U82gJydG5ZH+kLNjV QKGkF7wFl3qN67Cy7sk2nDY3OcxyJ2k7r71Fj5gBAQyiotNXG0As7mtcv0bFy84s8A tl0G00nA3WeoznDHErM6kbxJk7g+RpeGNtaEszzk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338c50f0bf0d6b0c Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Pawn Shopping Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net yes Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Bobby Whitehead To: John Hasty Cc: FoT Triumph Sent: Fri, Jan 11, 2013 7:31 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Pawn Shopping did I miss something? ________________________________ From: John Hasty To: Bobby Whitehead Cc: Duncan Charlton ; FoT Triumph Sent: Fri, January 11, 2013 7:24:33 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Pawn Shopping Gee whiz, Bobby, having collected tools since my "hot rod" days in the late 40's & 50's, I couldn't possibly tell you all the brands. For sure Sears was a big source, but I'm sure none of them had "dick" in the name Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2013, at 8:09 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > if you have a pawn shop in your travels, go in every once in a while if you're > curious... > > every one is different.. there are good deals to be found across the board, > hence my toolsandjewels name .... new web page is www.unclejoespawn.com > > > > yes I'm self serving if you're in Weatherford Texas you get the DEAL... > > no I'm not Uncle Joe > > Bobby Whitehead > Pawn Star of CVAR > > > > ________________________________ > From: Duncan Charlton > To: FOT > Sent: Fri, January 11, 2013 2:36:14 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Harbor Freight > > Don't forget pawn shop tools. About ten years ago I found the size > specifications for Whitworth wrenches, so I bought 8 or 10 reasonably good > quality open end wrenches from a pawn shop and ground them to size. > > Duncan > (Texas) > 1952 Morgan Plus 4 > Red #6 > > > On Jan 11, 2013, at 6:06 AM, Bob Kramer wrote: > >> Cheap tools are great for making "special tools". I needed a very narrow > open >> end large wrench for TR6 hubs and a HF crescent was the best option once I >> ground it down. >> >> Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 11 19:07:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7DE40448 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:07:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm34-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm34-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D1640421 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:07:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.153] by nm34.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jan 2013 14:55:09 -0000 Received: from [98.139.173.188] by tm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jan 2013 14:55:09 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp115-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jan 2013 14:55:09 -0000 s=s1024; t=1357916109; bh=kE82ACusvKYwwE9Pd45e14MVoExJsFLceSElOtvstgc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=ms1PHPO3Wvy+wScX0FyBK+6zZZBHr2hgowpgF6jAGDtegvVSIhvNHtKxZV92ReRlDT9TTTeN3/FaQ85hdwjJZC9z7aegCTCIldjMLiLSVXGEmeI7HgXQjnzKSp9ysYMPbtULVBtWaCqVEInAzgGWFT7AgIW+cHeQev+5Dzkueio= ZclO9LUBNxHLguNpLW_1jjyVCs0WbcV6esdPfXXvLfp.Y_Q.arxSFcicSZsJ UdvdLtI6A3X2NiyovVuWMMxIkepoGCj7fjvuVQh4KLdfYHAk_lYMjSxC.BPV Jd6T1gjweoC8rZMw4AKr0rx_gni9iFnV2efczGbMwGzo3QIZAmnLC3I5WmNq 11xwpOspO.z96YqTTy1VLrR8NCSl8a4iiHQ0nouwftcc6dgxOaasU82m_upj ZXVX3DtaYNblvIzSsEY2YogCSNCx59.O_9b0CyuiWB2_ksjV6LjmuPvUsTsR H77rL6BZLJ77oECJH1wwi4MQzeyhXb4shbYAhGIqkZ0aI0kue_9KmLXvhoj0 C6bfd.AsdkAPUXny8_a34ladxrrNN099rsdp4RdcMJRDZWSCM8UYX5OiOTfx lXxQC547RdxDz2kAFlRQh4ky2Iaq8w6C9gsJKQHAtLm2JgNM563LBVeU2.g4 ehJaDbWNMG156nR5bBgkp_k.04Cc- Received: from [192.168.2.2] (Tylerpthompson@67.190.144.189 with xymcookie) by smtp115-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jan 2013 06:55:09 -0800 PST References: <20130110230651.Y9XN2.191089.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> From: "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 07:55:07 -0700 To: Randall Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] VR1 oil sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The sale at Autozone is always the best. It is about $2.50 a quart. Keep your eyes open for their sale. Ty Sent from my iPad (Please excuse any errors or typos) On Jan 10, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Randall wrote: > Thanks for reminding me! > O'Reillys has (or had) VR1 synthetic on sale for $4.99 in the store, even though it doesn't appear for that price in any of their online ads. My local store was out when I was in there last week, but they said they should get more this week and the sale price was good until the 28th. I'm going to run over and stock up (if they have any). > > YMMV > Randall > > ---- Don Marshall wrote: >> A year or so ago someone found Valvoline VR1 non-synthetic racing oil on >> sale at Autozone for half price > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tylerpthompson@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 12 07:51:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4920440553 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 07:51:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB81540549 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 07:51:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.204]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id BAA531C00008A for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 09:47:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mte004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mte004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.236.77]) by mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 754BEE000082; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 09:47:39 -0500 (EST) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 09:47:39 -0500 (EST) To: n197tr4@cs.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358002059; bh=Qh+HCJwy90WdBsNgiYJgj8MNjuG69iIuJgQt6wN9kUo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zL6RKnhPoDX9nvqo5mqIFLnU2UhOXsAEC8nTL4js760vIhQTDEDVf2kkRKUNt3VPL UFSxW/m7tNuDt4SV9aGfrWU/VuqdQGawHCCf5jdsh/BGQR1DLXLoOKsWYTOc5zB6da DsI8iUNNcKN+F00ip8gTEYXOrq3M7ZXwzRWXYy/0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cc50f1778b7857 Subject: Re: [Fot] KASTNER CUP 2013 Misc. Ramblings Steve Belfer is working on the next edition of our FOT/VTR poster and > Marty > Sukey is standing by on the production of the event shirts with a plan for > distribution. TSI is involved again, with a high quality shirt. > Lots of Triumph stuff in the current issue of Victory Lane, including VSCDA's add for Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival XXVIII and its Kastner Cup event. I love the Joanie Delap photo used in the adv. (three TR4s going at it, shot from the rear). I like everything about that photo, but in particular, the fact that you can read the decal on the rear of the Alexander TR4, which memorializes Steve's dad (and my mentor)...Mike Belfer. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 12 10:40:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942A840696 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:40:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from tr.ccfot.com (wsip-98-174-80-205.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A880B40416 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:39:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E78A4C091; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 12:36:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from tr.ccfot.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tr.ccfot.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TQ3+ITPU6rkY; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 12:36:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from HENRYPRECISION (wsip-98-174-80-202.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.202]) (Authenticated sender: yellow04@tr4racer.com) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7EAD2A4C084; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 12:36:08 -0500 (EST) From: To: "Dennis Delap" , "Joe Alexander" References: <8CFBE5702EEFC7E-1964-C93C@webmail-m160.sysops.aol.com><8CFBE6907A386CA-1964-D590@webmail-m160.sysops.aol.com> <483AB8C0-6CEF-4CF5-8B9D-1785149B51BC@sbcglobal.net> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 12:36:09 -0500 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Dennis, The answer is the I'm the guy who updates it, and until my clients stop throwing money at me to do stuff for them, finding the time and enthuisasm to actually work on it is tough. This working for a living stuff really gets in the way of fun. Also noteworthy is there is SO MUCH STUFF going on with the 2013 KCup, I have no clue where to start. But I have confidence Jason will help bail me out... Having been involved at some level in several Kastner Cup events, I can say Joe Alexander (and his volunteer committee) are really is pulling off something pretty special here. It's seems to me all the right stuff is coming together. This might just be a very tough event to top in the future! Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Delap" To: "Joe Alexander" Cc: Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] KASTNER CUP 2013 Misc. Ramblings > Speaking of the FOT website. > Why is it so outdated? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 12 14:45:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE5840694 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 14:45:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F51F40442 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 14:45:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta20.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.71]) by qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id n7Tx1k0031YDfWL519hstb; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 21:41:52 +0000 Received: from ComputerPC ([71.60.181.57]) by omta20.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id n9hr1k00a1EiJYf3g9hrFu; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 21:41:52 +0000 From: "Stutzmans" To: "Glenn Franco" , "Doug Braun" References: <50F080C2.1080007@charter.net> <50F08BD3.9000200@charter.net> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 16:41:52 -0500 s=q20121106; t=1358026912; bh=h6k9Asc6hX8rtc8FSyT9ClXVhnw5J/PiyNqLVoZZx7o=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=j08plXAqORRSp83W3DdMfDKCK1ymiRnLYXG0dxgx9iZwn1gKZY+a3GJFOZBhGro+Q JQuNQww0/9u34jv6tEaOQHcwDxgHI844Q78Z0HXYpnegTl905TkxN7lt659GZlhIUb Hk3cWRj1SM9DkLAwT2rY8H7xn1N1603syCNkDOHK450PhzKx+3o2R/qN0eWJ9w0pl4 vg5r3ibRmSoIeng0ql+FdojT5WH1yhX3CUsoMdbVmE5BDfzEMevMw7ByiwagNCW3Go Qa79VqKz98fmiqEOwWqs54RlSVRqIWMhDXhqvXMpju+xt1+2xUIy+PNvAPJ4mm1pZ0 3Y7kvRRPkQTPQ== Cc: spitfires@autox.team.net, Friends of triumph , 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] [Spits] County Pistons Quality Control Issue Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Usually U.S. sourced parts are made in China or Taiwan and U.K. sourced parts are made in India. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Franco" To: "Doug Braun" Cc: ; <6pack@autox.team.net>; "Friends of triumph" Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] [Spits] County Pistons Quality Control Issue > Yes the County Rockers are made in India. > They usually have better quality control than most. > > On 1/11/2013 4:33 PM, Doug Braun wrote: >> Another horror story: >> >> A while back I replaced my Spit's rocker arm shaft with the part that >> most vendors sold. I believe it was "County" >> branded, and it was made in India. I went to adjust the valves a few >> days later, and I noticed that the front four rocker arms >> seemed rather oil-starved. When I ran the engine with the rocker arm >> cover off, I could see that only the rear four rocker >> arms were getting lubricated. >> It turned out that the shaft was not completely hollow: They had >> rifle-drilled it inwards from each end, but they did not drill >> deep enough, and the two holes did not meet up in the center. >> >> Doug >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Glenn Franco > >> FYI >> I am in the midst of a TR6 Rebuild with an engine that is .020" >> overbored. >> While fitting up the pistons and checking clearances everything >> checked out and the bore was concentric and to specs. >> With the piston installed in the bore I noticed increased drag >> with #1 piston installed. >> With rings gaps, skirt clearance correct I pulled the piston and >> didn't see any issues. >> Further inspection showed that the piston was cocked in the bore >> and had score marks on the bottom of one skirt with the same wear >> just below the oil ring on the other side. >> After inspecting it with the machine shop we noticed that the ring >> grooves were not fully machined on one side of the piston. >> The rings would not move far enough in the groove and was proud of >> the surface causing the piston to cock in the bore. >> We collectively have not seen this before and have a new set of AE >> pistons not County on the way. >> >> Having spent many years in Automotive Engineering at one of the >> former Big Three, these events are usually not one of's. >> There likely are many more out there that ran down the line in the >> same batch at the same time before it was caught. >> >> These are new County Piston sets (I think made in Israel now). >> I would inspect their parts very closely before you install them. >> >> I also noticed machine chips in the machined groove of their >> Tri-Metal Main Bearings (Israel). >> The chips were in the machined groove and were plated over with >> the babbit and copper. >> >> I have had very good experiences with their parts in the past. >> Just thought I would provide a heads up. >> >> Glenn >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/doug@dougbraun.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/stutzmans@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 12 17:08:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEB84068C for ; 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Documentation of The Kastner Cup annual event - ever since I have been attending - is almost non existent on our site. We certainly have tons of pictures available. Do we have a writer? What is the web software? I am guessing something ancient. How hard is it to add things, make changes, move stuff around? Could I learn it and help out? Small moves - something everyday will get her done. Our website should be the goto place for everything FOT. > Dennis, > > The answer is the I'm the guy who updates it, and until my > clients stop > throwing money at me to do stuff for them, finding the time > and enthuisasm > to actually work on it is tough. This working for a living > stuff really gets > in the way of fun. > > Also noteworthy is there is SO MUCH STUFF going on with the > 2013 KCup, I > have no clue where to start. But I have confidence Jason > will help bail me > out... Having been involved at some level in several Kastner > Cup events, I > can say Joe Alexander (and his volunteer committee) are > really is pulling > off something pretty special here. It's seems to me all the > right stuff is > coming together. > > This might just be a very tough event to top in the future! > > Henry > yellow04@tr4racer.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Delap" > To: "Joe Alexander" > Cc: > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 8:19 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] KASTNER CUP 2013 Misc. Ramblings AMERICA...FOUR > MILES OF BLACK MAGIC> > > > > Speaking of the FOT website. > > Why is it so outdated? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 12 20:48:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3173C40E42 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 20:48:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-da0-f47.google.com (mail-da0-f47.google.com [209.85.210.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13375406AE for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 20:48:03 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-da0-f47.google.com with SMTP id s35so1325090dak.34 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:44:40 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=3O6DrkQuyDGVBoupM+4GjcQ3RAjgJQ0cTQmvPd8IyeY=; b=oKh+EKpbouPtE21wyBdNUbT/j+7TNlCxP9DPeYtBtI8UMj+kx5mAMFiDBR9XY/ZS9P nuBrUo/X+jbK/vi72SwsoaZfCwwVabIk4x54ttv+IPrRZk/qdsikxSokHsKsAl/BSs8b 73whYZzvbr5bC5DDYLvZUnRhFGqSjg8bOArz6fQXlCRSmaAocPQANzJ1guvq/LusU5mo n3kJ1IoKFGSLnn+N/u0doiCBtQrxD3LUfEwdf38FXMJV92UxRdBSETIf2IQ5tR5Dufg6 Bji0N3meUMBskdIAgfgKxlUBSeo8q3NzGGMVFESz7mU6mUF3ieeL5bGH6hdeHbe9yV9G +Log== wt1mr239794015pbc.65.1358048680129; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:44:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.38] (udp235485uds.hawaiiantel.net. [72.234.40.189]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id qr8sm5613663pbc.64.2013.01.12.19.44.37 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:44:39 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Babcock Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:44:35 -1000 References: <1358035484.7553.YahooMailClassic@web185003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> To: Dennis DeLap Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Actually it would be pretty easy to move it to Wordpress and then give all the members author privileges. On Jan 12, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Dennis DeLap wrote: > Fixing the FOT website at this point will be much like eating an elephant. > > Documentation of The Kastner Cup annual event - ever since I have been attending - is almost non existent on our site. > We certainly have tons of pictures available. > Do we have a writer? > What is the web software? I am guessing something ancient. > How hard is it to add things, make changes, move stuff around? > Could I learn it and help out? > > Small moves - something everyday will get her done. > Our website should be the goto place for everything FOT. > > >> Dennis, >> >> The answer is the I'm the guy who updates it, and until my >> clients stop >> throwing money at me to do stuff for them, finding the time >> and enthuisasm >> to actually work on it is tough. This working for a living >> stuff really gets >> in the way of fun. >> >> Also noteworthy is there is SO MUCH STUFF going on with the >> 2013 KCup, I >> have no clue where to start. But I have confidence Jason >> will help bail me >> out... Having been involved at some level in several Kastner >> Cup events, I >> can say Joe Alexander (and his volunteer committee) are >> really is pulling >> off something pretty special here. It's seems to me all the >> right stuff is >> coming together. >> >> This might just be a very tough event to top in the future! >> >> Henry >> yellow04@tr4racer.com >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dennis Delap" >> To: "Joe Alexander" >> Cc: >> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 8:19 PM >> Subject: Re: [Fot] KASTNER CUP 2013 Misc. Ramblings > AMERICA...FOUR >> MILES OF BLACK MAGIC> >> >> >>> Speaking of the FOT website. >>> Why is it so outdated? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billb@bnj.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 13 07:57:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A4840E68 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 07:57:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6504042F for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 07:57:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.8]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 497091C000051; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 09:54:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.1]) by mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1B812E000081; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 09:54:22 -0500 (EST) References: <1358035484.7553.YahooMailClassic@web185003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> To: yellow-green@sbcglobal.net, yellow04@tr4racer.com Received: from 173.22.37.242 by webmail-m147.sysops.aol.com (149.174.9.30) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 13 Jan 2013 09:54:22 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 09:54:21 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358088862; bh=eCFu7mjLp9d/SpYUa7iOlpP9NlY0iF0Tg6zHmEVT+A8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WabtQozlPn8OcN2V6gJvZDA7BhypgU/2qMAfaeNPWo6irfJccPsK8ixfcj8mqQm0r bXbNvfTBi2yA9tzL0Tj9M4ZAeZnA4NEmnjy9GmND7RBvw5ni8qKBtoN7vf6ZxZVJtd BT9alH2pksTRsSF6wXWcHyVZbeQVvAblBDtA9nUs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290850f2ca9e2f0a Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You are exactly right, Dennis. Maybe someone can come up with a plan. It seems like, whenever there has been a need, somebody jumps in a addresses the problem. Not bad for a non organization. Henry, maybe you can come up with plan and solicit for support? Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Dennis DeLap To: Joe Alexander ; yellow04 Cc: fot Sent: Sat, Jan 12, 2013 6:04 pm Subject: Re: fot-racing.com Fixing the FOT website at this point will be much like eating an elephant. Documentation of The Kastner Cup annual event - ever since I have been attending - is almost non existent on our site. We certainly have tons of pictures available. Do we have a writer? What is the web software? I am guessing something ancient. How hard is it to add things, make changes, move stuff around? Could I learn it and help out? Small moves - something everyday will get her done. Our website should be the goto place for everything FOT. > Dennis, > > The answer is the I'm the guy who updates it, and until my > clients stop > throwing money at me to do stuff for them, finding the time > and enthuisasm > to actually work on it is tough. This working for a living > stuff really gets > in the way of fun. > > Also noteworthy is there is SO MUCH STUFF going on with the > 2013 KCup, I > have no clue where to start. But I have confidence Jason > will help bail me > out... Having been involved at some level in several Kastner > Cup events, I > can say Joe Alexander (and his volunteer committee) are > really is pulling > off something pretty special here. It's seems to me all the > right stuff is > coming together. > > This might just be a very tough event to top in the future! > > Henry > yellow04@tr4racer.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Delap" > To: "Joe Alexander" > Cc: > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 8:19 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] KASTNER CUP 2013 Misc. Ramblings AMERICA...FOUR > MILES OF BLACK MAGIC> > > > > Speaking of the FOT website. > > Why is it so outdated? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 13 13:22:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A3340E62 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 13:22:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from rhombus.bright.net (rhombus.bright.net [209.143.0.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2E440416 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 13:22:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from spamtest4.bright.net (spamtest4.bright.net [209.143.0.182]) by rhombus.bright.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r0DKG206011550 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:16:02 -0500 Received: from rg6.cniteam.com (rg6.cniteam.com [209.143.0.246]) by spamtest4.bright.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r0DKIQVv019654 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:18:26 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([216.201.14.237]) by rg6.cniteam.com (MOS 4.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id EOT08762 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:18:26 -0500 Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:18:37 -0500 From: Ted Schumacher User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: fot@autox.team.net refid=str=0001.0A020207.50F31692.0092,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-09-13 19:33:14, dmn=2009-09-10 00:05:08, mode=single engine Subject: [Fot] TR chasssis stuff Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net With all the discussion about chassis strengths, or lack thereof, wanted to let the list know about our TR6 chassis/diff stiffener kit. This was developed by Lanky Foushee for the Group44 TR6. When we redid my daughter'sTR6 chassis at the Group44shop, we put this on the car and developed a "kit". The kit boxes the 3 sided support that holds the upper spring mount/body tub cross bar. it also supports the outer end of the bar that is the top spring seat. And, boxes in the rear cross member where the shocks are attached. By boxing in these points, the diff supports now becomes part of the chassis. Less load and better rigidity. Kit can be installed with body on frame. Pictures are on our website - www.tsimportedautomotive.com. Click "Performance Parts" then select TR250/TR6 Performance Parts then go to the suspension section. Thanks for your time. Ted -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx@bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 13 14:16:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E856F40E9B for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:16:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bosmailout16.eigbox.net (bosmailout16.eigbox.net [66.96.188.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B544403DE for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:16:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from bosmailscan23.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.23]) by bosmailout16.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1TuUr4-000166-49 for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:12:34 -0500 Received: from bosimpout03.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.3]) by bosmailscan23.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1TuUr3-0007Pz-VU for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:12:33 -0500 Received: from bosauthsmtp01.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.1]) by bosimpout03.eigbox.net with NO UCE id nZCB1k00401P9Sa01ZCBaS; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:12:11 -0500 a=XKDf2TC7AtrXIbFVZFzOoA==:17 a=3-MZCWuAnnEA:10 a=94ETiUsaB6sA:10 a=Pnm1w6LzEfTL_sBHHikA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=SL2rndPVPagrWBo8HhQA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=qJxhInCQhC6SGsW0:21 a=FLmnjis/JmE4jomwi6pJ+A==:117 Received: from ppp-70-253-66-163.dsl.austtx.swbell.net ([70.253.66.163] helo=zap6) by bosauthsmtp01.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1TuUr3-0005o0-KI for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:12:33 -0500 From: "Robert MacKenzie" To: Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:12:17 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac3xGkWidq2K+HI0QHaTGj/8AF7WIQAmc10QAAejwuA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] 1147cc Spit manifold gaskets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Does anybody have a source for good intake/exhaust manifold gaskets for the 1147cc Spitfire engine? I can get the $3 paper ones but am looking for a better quality gasket. I need one urgently. Robert MacKenzie NASS # 511 Austin Texas '78 1500 (street) '71 GT6 MKIII (project) '62 Spitfire 4 (race) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 13 14:33:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FBFF40EA9 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:33:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f176.google.com (mail-ie0-f176.google.com [209.85.223.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B64E54042F for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:33:48 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f176.google.com with SMTP id 13so4262343iea.35 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 13:30:21 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=2pYgkboKhvhy5IRzupybIMSD0bLU5fvcv5/otlyIbM0=; b=Ub0J4fx21vv68RMhkLQAN0H9IPdEkN+9vD/lh4Q88xi+OdnJBRxmCD2trryZ+sv2EO eTxbwKjXWihsJ1hG99UN00OLUhdsmlar1iV1pN8GTVYnuz109p8/Z5KCxLvdQZ5LU/tB GQWPqVRgCJO4eDOajMkqjvo9wYGu4rNELossuQPXSeLpsdS7MdmPP2+oiG6b73IKazr2 oNzTHCQiiIyrXTDcxBZ+3/GcarzJ/y23/RUMOJWF2cBwgaePCJG44RMrMmcWD9MExJVM TrYUhWmS0jegmtjOtaeZg0ErkLqvBDunsxdcUPORTxkpfrwulBO/9WrPwX4We4vzzmAw fVyg== Received: by 10.50.88.136 with SMTP id bg8mr5168260igb.96.1358112620959; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 13:30:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.10.104 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 13:30:20 -0800 (PST) References: <002401cdf1d2$abd40f00$037c2d00$@aero> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:30:20 -0500 From: robert bownes To: Robert MacKenzie Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 1147cc Spit manifold gaskets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I found one at, believe it or not, NAPA. That was about 10 years ago though. On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Robert MacKenzie wrote: > Does anybody have a source for good intake/exhaust manifold gaskets for the > 1147cc Spitfire engine? I can get the $3 paper ones but am looking for a > better quality gasket. > > I need one urgently. > > Robert MacKenzie > NASS # 511 > Austin Texas > '78 1500 (street) > '71 GT6 MKIII (project) > '62 Spitfire 4 (race) > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 13 14:39:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F193040E58 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:39:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD17E4051A for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:39:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.36]) by qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id nZXe1k0040mlR8UAEZbtyU; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:35:53 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([24.22.75.60]) by omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id nZbr1k00h1J37AG8XZbs8K; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:35:52 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 13:35:51 -0800 From: Jim Norlin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <002401cdf1d2$abd40f00$037c2d00$@aero> s=q20121106; t=1358112953; bh=zeBY0yZUDAMLiQS0Y28sBM+JAM2uYqR1tGsbmNxhic8=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=HV/KhLXfsSqO6vtXTrTCAIGuOIyvcL8+mp5pXnVFdocceJj2NIED+VwfmzNvwUwYt hG/8TMLaOPGLLTYuya2RD2KdG8u3rKChNmddKPtjYfZ1DaW7ye+pkWL8Dk3YLIj+gI Ng+0almj3Ym5QDRxbz517mQC5TWDoh7re8zi6FuoOS2sztDR5SB2SRCNJXrk8tzZbb 0slhdaGaNhuzPBOLkeP6F1DcKzTqn57Xyf8eeads3UfCp4TKpwcE+3FZ3u/UiCasuc wCSdZbDW8eTy4x0I8wmiYQkWq2TAUVy7Q9nNCzjh5fKUkMTg8D0a2RD4RF3kF6YQhI xs5iipBVjCzFg== Subject: Re: [Fot] 1147cc Spit manifold gaskets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've got three of them that I no longer need since I switched to a 1300. They are the metalized type. I normally source that type of stuff from British Parts NW. Since they are across town from me I normally get next day delivery. Let me know if you want me to mail mine to you. On 1/13/2013 1:12 PM, Robert MacKenzie wrote: > Does anybody have a source for good intake/exhaust manifold gaskets for the > 1147cc Spitfire engine? I can get the $3 paper ones but am looking for a > better quality gasket. > > I need one urgently. > > Robert MacKenzie > NASS # 511 > Austin Texas > '78 1500 (street) > '71 GT6 MKIII (project) > '62 Spitfire 4 (race) > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/norlinengineering@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 13 15:53:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 903AD403D0 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:53:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B346440EA0 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:52:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.74]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 20E6D1C0002D1; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:48:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.1]) by mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id ED130E000082; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:48:51 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by Webmail-m115.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.194) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:48:51 -0500 Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:48:51 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358117332; bh=M+JeTksEYEHeNnEQWB+AfdZgp6XmnlWQztPLk8wT64s=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=otEw7XDkKWZorhWGtRYwWMnqRdV7iU90bH/opIIWGPzhN8Iy39aDV2b1xgnYmeBNC cc0MBX3qeiGyffl4lRkNud1982KZthgqETuUQ/Y0FjhtuSoEEqTlTEKijJjus2LCH8 QC3YZ1JPpHWm+G9mHYK4eYNxPLdbyDZ3oemBIdBI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294a50f339d33fe5 Subject: [Fot] Spitfires, GT6s, and one FAST HERALD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT, There seems to be a chance that the Kastner Cup feature something beyond just a 'gaggle' in SPITFIRES and GT6s. I am pleased to announce that I just heard from California's Jerry and Jan BARKER. They plan to bring both the SCCA NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP SPITFIRE and the KASTNER CUP WINNING HERALD. What a show this will be! You may not know that street fuel found it's way into the SCCA CHAMPIONSHIP SPITFIRE at the MITTY last year and prevented a great showing. While it provided some amusing copy by our friend BURT LEVY, it wont happen again at Road American. SEE YOU AT KCUP 2013 Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 13 18:04:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F7D40EB3 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 18:04:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D52CB40EA3 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 18:04:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.22.217]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MGL0029RC5VK320@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 19:01:08 -0600 (CST) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Ted Schumacher" , References: <50F3169D.10603@bright.net> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:01:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR chasssis stuff Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Gang, I put Ted's kit in my TR6 last summer; piece of cake. I'm going to take a close look around my front suspension and rack mounts when the engine is out (tomorrow). It's lots easier to do repairs with an empty engine bay. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Schumacher" To: Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 3:18 PM Subject: [Fot] TR chasssis stuff > With all the discussion about chassis strengths, or lack thereof, wanted > to let the list know about our TR6 chassis/diff stiffener kit. This was > developed by Lanky Foushee for the Group44 TR6. When we redid my > daughter'sTR6 chassis at the Group44shop, we put this on the car and > developed a "kit". The kit boxes the 3 sided support that holds the upper > spring mount/body tub cross bar. it also supports the outer end of the bar > that is the top spring seat. And, boxes in the rear cross member where the > shocks are attached. By boxing in these points, the diff supports now > becomes part of the chassis. Less load and better rigidity. Kit can be > installed with body on frame. Pictures are on our website - > www.tsimportedautomotive.com. Click "Performance Parts" then select > TR250/TR6 Performance Parts then go to the suspension section. Thanks for > your time. Ted > > -- > Ted Schumacher > tedtsimx@bright.net > http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com > 108 S. Jefferson St. > Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 > Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) > Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) > Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 13 18:28:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F4242266 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 18:28:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s29.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s29.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.104]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F3F40514 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 18:27:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU168-W4 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s29.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:23:51 -0800 From: marty sukey To: Joe Alexander , FOT Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:23:51 -0500 References: <8CFBFF74A981C2B-10AC-1BF57@Webmail-m115.sysops.aol.com> FILETIME=[CF8A47C0:01CDF1F5] Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfires, GT6s, and one FAST HERALD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Awsome. Evelyn and I camped out outside the gate with Jerry and Jan at Road Atlanta Sunday night last year. Sat around the campfire swapping stories. What great folks, looking forward to seeing them again. Marty ---------------------------------------- > To: fot@autox.team.net > From: n197tr4@cs.com > Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:48:51 -0500 > Subject: [Fot] Spitfires, GT6s, and one FAST HERALD > > FOT, > > There seems to be a chance that the Kastner Cup feature something beyond just > a 'gaggle' in SPITFIRES and GT6s. > > I am pleased to announce that I just heard from California's Jerry and Jan > BARKER. They plan to bring both the SCCA NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP SPITFIRE and > the KASTNER CUP WINNING HERALD. What a show this will be! > > You may not know that street fuel found it's way into the SCCA CHAMPIONSHIP > SPITFIRE at the MITTY last year and prevented a great showing. While it > provided some amusing copy by our friend BURT LEVY, it wont happen again at > Road American. SEE YOU AT KCUP 2013 > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 11:56:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB18A4248D for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:56:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D634006F for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:57:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130113225427.KYEK10448.mta21.charter.net@imp11>; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:54:27 -0500 Received: from deb52 ([75.129.128.158]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id nauT1k00K3RBCjv05auTVw; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:54:27 -0500 a=A1eCOzr61cxuQB/vvtIsEA==:17 a=FLsnabdZRUoA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=okVWMcaC-uMA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=oTpQDTu9CWFI9YWLTd4A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=MG4Rcr4xqJIA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=CTeav8hQUh1ZnvaQ7IwA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=LjjEj4n0dj9IrkJq:21 a=A1eCOzr61cxuQB/vvtIsEA==:117 From: "deb korneli" To: , "Joe Alexander" References: <8CFBFF74A981C2B-10AC-1BF57@Webmail-m115.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:54:26 -0600 Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfires, GT6s, and one FAST HERALD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Great News! ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Alexander To: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 4:48 PM Subject: Spitfires, GT6s, and one FAST HERALD FOT, There seems to be a chance that the Kastner Cup feature something beyond just a 'gaggle' in SPITFIRES and GT6s. I am pleased to announce that I just heard from California's Jerry and Jan BARKER. They plan to bring both the SCCA NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP SPITFIRE and the KASTNER CUP WINNING HERALD. What a show this will be! You may not know that street fuel found it's way into the SCCA CHAMPIONSHIP SPITFIRE at the MITTY last year and prevented a great showing. While it provided some amusing copy by our friend BURT LEVY, it wont happen again at Road American. SEE YOU AT KCUP 2013 Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 12:24:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC144248F for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:24:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.165]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BB24642465 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:23:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.215.142] by nm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2013 19:20:21 -0000 Received: from [98.136.87.60] by tm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2013 19:20:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp123-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2013 19:20:21 -0000 s=s1024; t=1358191221; bh=dzU/bA9uAEi9vV1TnOTmFKYjOc6WUkXuu1ljlXao1Ds=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=Nni7tjrO9n3Lvt+S/rQZW4NgORVRsr70Jt6w7+dlFItUZ5aAum2W4RfwkanGiHGP1g5CfLTNfKDIhb6s8dpsRuKFvPskbpBi3KNSTdksMEchZKQG0AAgIwowln2o95XZRfaPd024XN2D5HF+n9Z6mklceUo/umK3lLd8Wx/mcdQ= oYVTbsXVEaDRBXhaPqxLGXvBQKahh5tMdHTKD1.XYt8bR0MkcnfbWrITRpXH En0gUzFShE9x.2iuzHLVvrcL7FsfGFpVc1M28iZjF7P4qqmwJJFuCBkxxSWI SF7T3njcyb2EHSIvoRNNb4jdtrNxTpQlC6akN1RtEMcq43lsAH4ETbZNDgkf ijx_8MgSsZ_hVAhRt6E3c.pbJJxdb0maNX19Ud6HAZiTbw917dvFC67uH6UG hba3_PpEaaMy3X2id6jW4w0TnTrDUw5O8vPcm4DSbSmctHpBJCtsqrRQlgMP t1dkCNk2hDGlcvdKYfmw9W4QX52oXbOHPsfFmyqyDO0HmY59.2AD4pdFYZ6V eb_iFeuzrICP3Q5Ly2ywLLzFQ2h2UU9dhlB5Pfbs.nztXp1p_BMvhma2P98. TOgreO.6ZabdOYqjozdU9fFb9K_mHeErTAho1smiCyTqp.V0baWg.pk5k0Nj ZfwuoavwLNzIQlj78v53c7seHNrPRQqQh Received: from [192.168.1.67] (yellow-green@99.43.68.42 with xymcookie) by smtp123-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2013 11:20:21 -0800 PST References: <1358035484.7553.YahooMailClassic@web185003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <69B43FBD-0A77-471A-B64C-8B6F2980B0B2@bnj.com> From: Dennis Delap Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:20:37 -0600 To: Bill Babcock Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I like Babcocks idea. If we had a template that the members could access - we could start to see who we are as a group. A bio section with pictures and words would be cool. That said - who on the list is even interested in making a page about themself and their Racing Triumph? On Jan 12, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: > Actually it would be pretty easy to move it to Wordpress and then give all the members author privileges. > On Jan 12, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Dennis DeLap wrote: > >> Fixing the FOT website at this point will be much like eating an elephant. >> >> Documentation of The Kastner Cup annual event - ever since I have been attending - is almost non existent on our site. >> We certainly have tons of pictures available. >> Do we have a writer? >> What is the web software? I am guessing something ancient. >> How hard is it to add things, make changes, move stuff around? >> Could I learn it and help out? >> >> Small moves - something everyday will get her done. >> Our website should be the goto place for everything FOT. >> >> >>> Dennis, >>> >>> The answer is the I'm the guy who updates it, and until my >>> clients stop >>> throwing money at me to do stuff for them, finding the time >>> and enthuisasm >>> to actually work on it is tough. This working for a living >>> stuff really gets >>> in the way of fun. >>> >>> Also noteworthy is there is SO MUCH STUFF going on with the >>> 2013 KCup, I >>> have no clue where to start. But I have confidence Jason >>> will help bail me >>> out... Having been involved at some level in several Kastner >>> Cup events, I >>> can say Joe Alexander (and his volunteer committee) are >>> really is pulling >>> off something pretty special here. It's seems to me all the >>> right stuff is >>> coming together. >>> >>> This might just be a very tough event to top in the future! >>> >>> Henry >>> yellow04@tr4racer.com >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Dennis Delap" >>> To: "Joe Alexander" >>> Cc: >>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 8:19 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] KASTNER CUP 2013 Misc. Ramblings >> AMERICA...FOUR >>> MILES OF BLACK MAGIC> >>> >>> >>>> Speaking of the FOT website. >>>> Why is it so outdated? >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billb@bnj.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 12:38:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6C2424B2 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:38:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from ex.dunnwalshholdings.com (unknown [173.219.117.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BAAF40416 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:38:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::8d15:8e5d:9713:5eaa]) by TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::8d15:8e5d:9713:5eaa%13]) with mapi; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:34:34 -0800 From: Edward Dunn To: Dennis Delap , Bill Babcock Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:34:27 -0800 Thread-Topic: [Fot] fot-racing.com Thread-Index: Ac3yjDd7G+ivDfyXRpCHEJoA+6/JWwAAbqnA References: <1358035484.7553.YahooMailClassic@web185003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <69B43FBD-0A77-471A-B64C-8B6F2980B0B2@bnj.com> <5A509E0A-8BC9-4A39-B56B-90E43F7729A5@sbcglobal.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Check out my West Coast Vintage Racing website: www.vintageracing.us It's a very simple Go Daddy site. Easy to set up & maintain. Edward Dunn West Coast Vintage Racing 2240 Encinitas Blvd., Suite D101 Encinitas CA 92024 760-492-3814 www.vintageracing.us -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dennis Delap Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 11:21 AM To: Bill Babcock Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com I like Babcocks idea. If we had a template that the members could access - we could start to see who we are as a group. A bio section with pictures and words would be cool. That said - who on the list is even interested in making a page about themself and their Racing Triumph? On Jan 12, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: > Actually it would be pretty easy to move it to Wordpress and then give > all the members author privileges. > On Jan 12, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Dennis DeLap wrote: > >> Fixing the FOT website at this point will be much like eating an elephant. >> >> Documentation of The Kastner Cup annual event - ever since I have >> been attending - is almost non existent on our site. >> We certainly have tons of pictures available. >> Do we have a writer? >> What is the web software? I am guessing something ancient. >> How hard is it to add things, make changes, move stuff around? >> Could I learn it and help out? >> >> Small moves - something everyday will get her done. >> Our website should be the goto place for everything FOT. >> >> >>> Dennis, >>> >>> The answer is the I'm the guy who updates it, and until my clients >>> stop throwing money at me to do stuff for them, finding the time and >>> enthuisasm to actually work on it is tough. This working for a >>> living stuff really gets in the way of fun. >>> >>> Also noteworthy is there is SO MUCH STUFF going on with the >>> 2013 KCup, I >>> have no clue where to start. But I have confidence Jason will help >>> bail me out... Having been involved at some level in several Kastner >>> Cup events, I can say Joe Alexander (and his volunteer committee) >>> are really is pulling off something pretty special here. It's seems >>> to me all the right stuff is coming together. >>> >>> This might just be a very tough event to top in the future! >>> >>> Henry >>> yellow04@tr4racer.com >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Dennis Delap" >>> To: "Joe Alexander" >>> Cc: >>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 8:19 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] KASTNER CUP 2013 Misc. Ramblings >> AMERICA...FOUR MILES OF BLACK MAGIC> >>> >>> >>>> Speaking of the FOT website. >>>> Why is it so outdated? >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billb@bnj.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 12:47:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E9842488 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:47:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DB04247D for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:47:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.201]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 32A2F1C00009D; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:43:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mte004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mte004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.236.77]) by mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0B1EBE00008C; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:43:32 -0500 (EST) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:43:31 -0500 (EST) To: yellow-green@sbcglobal.net, ponobill@gmail.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358192612; bh=wQ5SoiQhQ7QVmaEYbvK9uBJU/U941Gpa5rXd0oM4cDw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=clSvKn0tM5ofarj3MmLrBMq4t7qEvFFAxRlWMzCKP2eqK7MNRzzLlNluy5NR456Hd u6frD0IKsroBePpegpKrOBMUlER3g4HnEhfP2hfG5dUszVXQ6olpZf3CBuf/rghLMs BjA4ogUoyaC8wJTvH0hO0cShJCdcgK3YIfDArB20= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c950f45fe404d4 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 01/14/2013 1:20:28 PM Central Standard Time, yellow-green@sbcglobal.net writes: > I like Babcocks idea. > If we had a template that the members could access - we could start to see > who > we are as a group. A bio section with pictures and words would be cool. > That said - who on the list is even interested in making a page about > themself > and their Racing Triumph? > God knows I'm way too verbose to be against free speech, and of course Bill Babcock's forgotten more about such new software and how it works than I'll ever hope to know, but I'd have some concern about opening up the FOT Website to wholesale input for all members without the benefit of an 'editor'. That's what editors are for..the purpose they serve. Look what happens here on the FOT List. All members are granted an 'open mike' here, and it works great...but let's face it...we sure can get rag tag now and again. Our website is ought to be on purpose and not by accident. I absolutely think all members should have access and even be encouraged to submit items, but I also think the Website benefits with an 'editor'. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 12:54:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64406424A3 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:54:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f50.google.com (mail-pb0-f50.google.com [209.85.160.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D10940422 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:54:28 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pb0-f50.google.com with SMTP id wz7so2348304pbc.9 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:50:56 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=DIE/a4z8zZ5R5LcrwYCnRFnj0P8zaSik5pmILG4Y3z0=; b=o0CNiVb6XPyV8z/Yq5VGlmJq23tU+Zn60+CzzSLZ/pTy7vRbc/h1vtyGccYdora0Fh 3CDfpw230Gq8e6U67zhfL89MnqZbg2lP/xVlpXxZuKJ4mA3h0oJcYUGEI+gS52n2uU5R C8qF1Fqn29XaQu5ygP0AVQNdMfyKk+wQefgqHRl5dgB1Wy1OI8BjDYcdNk4nOUwkO86A iWGd4vCK3oWgUxojrfrtPfCWCKor8E/hhZRtnX6u8RxZzUgN4tIoEhQcpDsCeM6nK1GN uiUlC7jFyXThuZOFPca0uGocnf5iTE1KAkMGU/oaPfmVEWf4NI9uBHFudmf6smr7gyuJ tl6g== ms3mr256519483pbb.149.1358193056502; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:50:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.38] (udp235485uds.hawaiiantel.net. [72.234.40.189]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p10sm9268278pax.27.2013.01.14.11.50.54 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:50:55 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Babcock Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:50:52 -1000 References: <23123.692496bf.3e25b9e3@aol.com> To: BillDentin@aol.com Cc: ponobill@gmail.com, fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That's great if someone wants to do it, in the default wordpress security hierarchy there are both authors and editors. Editors can change any submission. You can also set the system so certain levels can comment, and with a closed group like the FOT that eliminates most comment spam since only members can comment. Here's a sample of a wordpress site I built called xtreme Geezer. That would certainly be you Bill. I haven't doner much with it since building it, but it's more or less what I'd recommend for the FOT. www.xgeez.com On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:43 AM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 01/14/2013 1:20:28 PM Central Standard Time, > yellow-green@sbcglobal.net writes: > > >> I like Babcocks idea. >> If we had a template that the members could access - we could start to see >> who >> we are as a group. A bio section with pictures and words would be cool. >> That said - who on the list is even interested in making a page about >> themself >> and their Racing Triumph? >> > > God knows I'm way too verbose to be against free speech, and of course Bill > Babcock's forgotten more about such new software and how it works than I'll > ever hope to know, but I'd have some concern about opening up the FOT > Website to wholesale input for all members without the benefit of an 'editor'. > That's what editors are for..the purpose they serve. Look what happens here > on the FOT List. All members are granted an 'open mike' here, and it works > great...but let's face it...we sure can get rag tag now and again. Our > website is ought to be on purpose and not by accident. I absolutely think all > members should have access and even be encouraged to submit items, but I also > think the Website benefits with an 'editor'. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billb@bnj.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 13:41:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07DD342498 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:41:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8A5C42486 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:41:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.13]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7B1D51C000157; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:37:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.1]) by mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 49A20E000089; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:37:41 -0500 (EST) References: <23123.692496bf.3e25b9e3@aol.com> To: BillDentin@aol.com, yellow-green@sbcglobal.net, ponobill@gmail.com Received: from 216.51.203.118 by Webmail-d112.sysops.aol.com (205.188.171.229) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:37:40 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:37:41 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358195861; bh=m8Y8CLuie7rDAF0dQxUWYWjLjL/M93r2syejU5+3qX8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KXcHafFCOASLRSdoND81Q1D7+OvMeDeUCqrqR0hnd7paq/NAOEBIMb1H2O9NzEIiN ZCJVlpw2OzoiNy5uVp4uVO0PkEq8xzrZilhmnXht9BLuAWJrcu+nrjcv3Rs+wvPM6j CcKQJI4uM40VzI/SyW/RT9ccK3jEFiZl8rhXdMbQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290d50f46c9532a2 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Editor good idea.....should be Henry's call on how to proceed, methinks. and Mordy. And it would ideal to step back in order to go forward. I think Dennis is on to something here. I like a little RAG-TAG on the FOT list....as long as it doesnt get personal.....just passionate. We have had some pretty decent threads, lately. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: BillDentin To: yellow-green ; ponobill Cc: fot Sent: Mon, Jan 14, 2013 1:44 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com In a message dated 01/14/2013 1:20:28 PM Central Standard Time, yellow-green@sbcglobal.net writes: > I like Babcocks idea. > If we had a template that the members could access - we could start to see > who > we are as a group. A bio section with pictures and words would be cool. > That said - who on the list is even interested in making a page about > themself > and their Racing Triumph? > God knows I'm way too verbose to be against free speech, and of course Bill Babcock's forgotten more about such new software and how it works than I'll ever hope to know, but I'd have some concern about opening up the FOT Website to wholesale input for all members without the benefit of an 'editor'. That's what editors are for..the purpose they serve. Look what happens here on the FOT List. All members are granted an 'open mike' here, and it works great...but let's face it...we sure can get rag tag now and again. Our website is ought to be on purpose and not by accident. I absolutely think all members should have access and even be encouraged to submit items, but I also think the Website benefits with an 'editor'. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 13:46:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E44A424AF for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:46:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f51.google.com (mail-pa0-f51.google.com [209.85.220.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0199C42486 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:46:28 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id fb11so2436255pad.24 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:42:56 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=JQ684Xwg/n9hqRIavh8xJfj+VfsUvXEE2XdFH9l1lxo=; b=lPwBSe/bgl9rqH6pz+ZEbYVBOm6qBgJllUAo95A2UlrgHJbL5/lSUsAAHKc/W3BbuS WOusKUhB5WU9b3wx9a/aLivBlXUi9nH7nnGoAVewbMFHcWM7zpRQnyMtwqEb6Yom08Rj PtM8PPVwIOBNp/uatJzhG9S86gNv3+ThYfLP3FDwhQGGqZLiytZ/f3eFs2/fjEK7Tm7E 2iB6BXcBLGcIF+uD8lPBUOGNNhKFXR48l3yupNBk1oA48BE9HuvUnDnVA0smQdTDTRaR CH0FTME/1M6gZvuw5SZ5m437E6arr1i9rZRlT7Y09VGd47YPI6M6ZR8cpa71b8oeRGHi Re9A== Received: by 10.68.197.197 with SMTP id iw5mr255752319pbc.22.1358196176724; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:42:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.77.102 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:42:56 -0800 (PST) References: <1358035484.7553.YahooMailClassic@web185003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <69B43FBD-0A77-471A-B64C-8B6F2980B0B2@bnj.com> <5A509E0A-8BC9-4A39-B56B-90E43F7729A5@sbcglobal.net> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:42:56 -0600 From: Jason Ostrowski To: Dennis Delap Cc: Bill Babcock , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We can all probably agree that the website could use some improvements. I certainly like the idea of a self-authored portion of the FOT site too. Especially something like a "Members and their Cars" Section", But as Bill D. has said we would need an editor (at the very least) Right now I am working on a couple pages of info for the next Kastner Cup. Henry, Joe and I are getting some stuff together and can promise (or at least try to promise) a slick new portion of the website highlighting some more current FOT 2013 updates and a full summary of our plans for the Kastner-Cup. In terms of going beyond this and totally revamping the entire site (baby steps) let me start with this.... I will see how it goes. After spending some time with these initial improvements, perhaps I could be convinced to be said "editor" and perhaps develop some sort of a "biography/ members section." All that being said... although our website could use a bit of improvement... we are very lucky to have our interests and friendships supported by an (almost always) fully functional contact network. I like our smallish email based Triumph World! Not a bad little group of geeks, and with no dues, duties, officers etc. I think we do pretty good for a group of "non members" As always, Thanks of course go out to "the man behind the curtain" Fot website updates to follow. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Dennis Delap wrote: > I like Babcocks idea. > If we had a template that the members could access - we could start to see > who > we are as a group. A bio section with pictures and words would be cool. > That said - who on the list is even interested in making a page about > themself > and their Racing Triumph? > > On Jan 12, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: > > > Actually it would be pretty easy to move it to Wordpress and then give > all > the members author privileges. > > On Jan 12, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Dennis DeLap > wrote: > > > >> Fixing the FOT website at this point will be much like eating an > elephant. > >> > >> Documentation of The Kastner Cup annual event - ever since I have been > attending - is almost non existent on our site. > >> We certainly have tons of pictures available. > >> Do we have a writer? > >> What is the web software? I am guessing something ancient. > >> How hard is it to add things, make changes, move stuff around? > >> Could I learn it and help out? > >> > >> Small moves - something everyday will get her done. > >> Our website should be the goto place for everything FOT. > >> > >> > >>> Dennis, > >>> > >>> The answer is the I'm the guy who updates it, and until my > >>> clients stop > >>> throwing money at me to do stuff for them, finding the time > >>> and enthuisasm > >>> to actually work on it is tough. This working for a living > >>> stuff really gets > >>> in the way of fun. > >>> > >>> Also noteworthy is there is SO MUCH STUFF going on with the > >>> 2013 KCup, I > >>> have no clue where to start. But I have confidence Jason > >>> will help bail me > >>> out... Having been involved at some level in several Kastner > >>> Cup events, I > >>> can say Joe Alexander (and his volunteer committee) are > >>> really is pulling > >>> off something pretty special here. It's seems to me all the > >>> right stuff is > >>> coming together. > >>> > >>> This might just be a very tough event to top in the future! > >>> > >>> Henry > >>> yellow04@tr4racer.com > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Dennis Delap" > >>> To: "Joe Alexander" > >>> Cc: > >>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 8:19 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] KASTNER CUP 2013 Misc. Ramblings >>> AMERICA...FOUR > >>> MILES OF BLACK MAGIC> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Speaking of the FOT website. > >>>> Why is it so outdated? > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billb@bnj.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 14:11:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C299424AE for ; 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Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:07:41 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <23123.692496bf.3e25b9e3@aol.com> <8CFC0AE21E98589-61C-2259C@Webmail-d112.sysops.aol.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:07:37 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac3ylwMfvJUn95WvS8ah8qoUoMgWZQABBOrA Content-Language: de Subject: [Fot] Group 44 style Triumph TR6 tinted lexan windscreen Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi guys, any idea where to get one those Group 44 style Triumph TR6 TR250 tinted lexan windscreen Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 14:36:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F85E424AA for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:36:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail175c2.megamailservers.com (mail175c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1404A4248D for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:36:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.240.239.175] (123.sub-174-252-154.myvzw.com [174.252.154.123]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail175c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r0ELX6xK000827 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:33:09 -0500 References: <23123.692496bf.3e25b9e3@aol.com> <8CFC0AE21E98589-61C-2259C@Webmail-d112.sysops.aol.com> <001b01cdf29b$30200570$90601050$@com> From: John Hasty Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:33:05 -0500 To: MadMarx a=oZ4MkmlNGdoA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=+o/hlC4t3sCpxmVHGdP91Q==:17 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=Le_uDkMTc9RGeCtNPncA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=+o/hlC4t3sCpxmVHGdP91Q==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Group 44 style Triumph TR6 tinted lexan windscreen Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Huffaker makes them for MG's & Jenson Healeys Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2013, at 4:07 PM, "MadMarx" wrote: > Hi guys, > > any idea where to get one those > Group 44 style Triumph TR6 TR250 tinted lexan windscreen > > Cheers > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 14:54:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F880424BA for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:54:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B3442464 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:53:32 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=rOWpgImpvxgA:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=XYTY4XG_-e49y-zXY1gA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:43136] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 06/9F-26261-88D74F05; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:50:00 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:50:00 -0500 From: Randall Cc: fot@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net ---- BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > I absolutely think all > members should have access and even be encouraged to submit items, but I also > think the Website benefits with an 'editor'. Are you volunteering ? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 14:56:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B554247D for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:56:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f178.google.com (mail-ea0-f178.google.com [209.85.215.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4306403F5 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:55:59 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ea0-f178.google.com with SMTP id a14so1528072eaa.37 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:52:26 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=ooAHzQyH8g312sZGtKekXji9PIxCqNxIMit8Gv6kKi0=; b=Y1Bm11dbEV3qHWpxzMCMgRDB9JeVMrMoOkuYuh+kAnZQfalzIklPoVAvOVXmCzwLNV sA3Jr2aGKjL1XttueJnPbR8z1oOuiR+uTurZpUEh0YJD0FrrY7PAFF4sRkRvuAbPIJGv g1SFL18sqfzN2KwhnKfdJvmS/6tods6uPvEaY4XrP9gv16k9cpfaLMRGSTaFmL6CLOQp cAiMjTBud9GVfoVRLw0ifFCkg+stDyqZoG3SIk4IG2fQCetgyzcA/fQtJB6Fz+rO6mZp Cb0l2+fWT6a6hdrpN1sBinPvvIEWuz6EQPxysA+lLUEuNEpMWmODUIs3eKET93lxIj1Y l82Q== e42mr234698503eep.32.1358200346625; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:52:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home ([31.212.202.221]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e2sm23074715eeo.8.2013.01.14.13.52.24 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:52:25 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <23123.692496bf.3e25b9e3@aol.com> <8CFC0AE21E98589-61C-2259C@Webmail-d112.sysops.aol.com> <001b01cdf29b$30200570$90601050$@com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:52:22 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac3ynebTjn31zSeDTVm70m3uIyfjaAAA22yA Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Group 44 style Triumph TR6 tinted lexan windscreen Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks all for input. Found what my friends needed. Cheers Chris Von: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley [mailto:triosan@gmail.com] Gesendet: Montag, 14. Januar 2013 22:27 An: MadMarx Betreff: Re: [Fot] Group 44 style Triumph TR6 tinted lexan windscreen check out the "racing only" windscreen at : http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com/tr250_tr6.html Das Bild wurde vom Absender entfernt. On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:07 PM, MadMarx wrote: Hi guys, any idea where to get one those Group 44 style Triumph TR6 TR250 tinted lexan windscreen Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of ~WRD000.jpg] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 14:56:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C4AF424AC for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:56:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5483403F6 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:56:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491AEA138B for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:54:31 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:54:30 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Web stuff Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The discussion of the FOT web site has reminded me that I have a lot of updating to do with the extremely out of date Team.Net pages, as well as a few other domains. I'll be using Wordpress for some of the work. It is too COLD to go out and work in the garage, so I'll be parking my sorry self in front of the computer for a while. We'll see what gets done. And yes, this is a great list! mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 15:01:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C18E424B0 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:01:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21787403F5 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:01:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B82F41C000048; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:57:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.1]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 894F0E000086; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:57:38 -0500 (EST) References: <20130114215000.9WUAT.207189.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> To: tr3driver@ca.rr.com Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com (205.188.59.132) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:57:38 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:57:38 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358200658; bh=wm/vDig/0KV6pyHV4pAnR6RN6QAEVY4y4Gp0AHIDwXU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WBRDQ74AxUPa1r2CKyXil4c5HjhApFUbxXRuHXUzDIfqLpjgKKWgNDLlrKh5UVGWb iJeMjPnwN58jat7tWr1IXLHab383Xsjcm6M/vEP9kbtYexx20fwM1IpLNT62Wtd2eV dVE6c1gLrMc9Xf47flzdcVsRUbEQHcPZS2xfXsUU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c50f47f522179 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I think us folks over 70 should quit volunteering, except our opinions. :-) Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Randall Cc: fot Sent: Mon, Jan 14, 2013 3:51 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com ---- BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > I absolutely think all > members should have access and even be encouraged to submit items, but I also > think the Website benefits with an 'editor'. Are you volunteering ? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 15:33:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E56424A3 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:33:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B1542486 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:33:10 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=rOWpgImpvxgA:10 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=XynUSt2xSvbqEBJSDVoA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:43789] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 63/E7-09617-0D684F05; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:29:37 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:29:36 -0500 From: Randall To: Joe Alexander Sensitivity: Normal Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Joe Alexander wrote: > I think us folks over 70 should quit volunteering, except our opinions. :-) > But you're retired! You're supposed to have all this free time compared to those of us who still have to work for a living. Or have I, like Bogey in Casablanca, been "misinformed" ? Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 15:47:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8DD424B4 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:47:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail168c2.megamailservers.com (mail168c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F97242486 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:47:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.240.239.175] (123.sub-174-252-154.myvzw.com [174.252.154.123]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail168c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r0EMhvkX009314 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:43:59 -0500 References: <20130114215000.9WUAT.207189.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> <8CFC0B94D787500-84C-12F3C@webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com> From: John Hasty Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:43:55 -0500 To: Joe Alexander a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=+o/hlC4t3sCpxmVHGdP91Q==:17 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=l2zfz9jqPoSkB5g743YA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=MG4Rcr4xqJIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=jZyq-Sda7lUA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=+o/hlC4t3sCpxmVHGdP91Q==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "tr3driver@ca.rr.com" , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Rember Joe, no opinions on transmissions Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > I think us folks over 70 should quit volunteering, except our opinions. :-) > > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Randall > Cc: fot > Sent: Mon, Jan 14, 2013 3:51 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com > > > ---- BillDentin@aol.com wrote: >> I absolutely think all >> members should have access and even be encouraged to submit items, but I > also >> think the Website benefits with an 'editor'. > > Are you volunteering ? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 15:50:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592E542498 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:50:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail201c2.megamailservers.com (mail201c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C794042B for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:50:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.240.239.175] (123.sub-174-252-154.myvzw.com [174.252.154.123]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail201c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r0EMkQ9K011240 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:46:29 -0500 References: <20130114222937.NPIFT.207454.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> From: John Hasty Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:46:25 -0500 To: Randall a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=+o/hlC4t3sCpxmVHGdP91Q==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=3B5lKrARlE3wcyyLfdYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=+o/hlC4t3sCpxmVHGdP91Q==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Randall, I'm 77 and am at the office every day (except when I'm on the way to a race) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2013, at 5:29 PM, Randall wrote: > ---- Joe Alexander wrote: >> I think us folks over 70 should quit volunteering, except our opinions. :-) >> > > But you're retired! You're supposed to have all this free time compared to those of us who still have to work for a living. > > Or have I, like Bogey in Casablanca, been "misinformed" ? > > Randall > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 16:00:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D530424C3 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:00:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC784042B for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:59:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CCEFA1648 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:58:05 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:58:05 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: "fot@autox.team.net" References: <20130114222937.NPIFT.207454.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> <5D67E1E6-D240-4800-888E-B5BEF79A6D18@gdhs.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm still under 60. I better volunteer for something. I know, I'll manage the mailing list ;-) mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 16:29:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBF342491 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:29:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm39-vm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm39-vm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068584248D for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:29:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.214.32] by nm39.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2013 23:25:51 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.207] by tm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2013 23:25:51 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1016.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2013 23:25:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 96964 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Jan 2013 23:25:51 -0000 s=s1024; t=1358205951; bh=oVOM1k24wxXxY6JVhsrxUmcoQMcan5i1qw9q7rtutug=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dfOTy8U6x2R8WoyCw/7xJW6m3Jb47sA7oTYqSRA3/xNbEZw8R90z4xZEE1UqITEOn5pCIZDMl9/7mSRUQU9hi//JqCAtVY6whDxfvN9cB9NdpJkC54M+V6uem+iKzlCZTuwTv3fu5HLSBGt1s0xPIYeU6pQ3j5iM9FVcOTvrzSs= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rCNQYqhy51f7VmICIlyrNoaAqMb6kMetk89ep4KDNWw6lNwsN4uMbbMcW828QOqZKi69Z6Fv1zsje1iRsj8Chtdt0WeKu3Kuxw95omvienxhUn/RJt+lEwsTWnQygyFMCzzgeDV6+z00ZP3DbnLpwqCdz+9oJKQusnTX666TkUs=; rzzdqf4Y87SKGGCjYfTS3Wup5sWwfx28pn.BFwUySCTaMXPwtUZWkyR3Wgvs hQfF5mAPHgl163bVlYc1tYexfLlpr4Z_GVT6QYHJ7yY1ncp18tvr9xbNSTRT wQUQh2p9oCaRjmhO0X041ZUDgVlpusc6ufKl7i840oSXdh6Fdmgurh_dSAyO 9uO5hY3zsBUtTdOa33Uiiu2rEKURnCygxGmVWR5M4vhd7dlwykDklcfv9WHM n.Un7ysrvW4RTMPeotBq1zdmJZZCbnMpzvvwoVkUxrgg1DiokoOXQ.w5VYEd _z7XIRhC5QRxW8lAZzsuuXSnnbmVON3QaXxwNWnwuZA_tAUeY790eyjyS_VS tOztaESbpJ19BE091m2cbWCHrRz7qXtEsZ2BXB80IfEXH8ZCFbOnC.EEI4PE cH.y_tRF4B9GJlWZ39rmLMBJvIg3InW7X.rjR.WL.Vzq8vNXxbIn4XSAYeMj 5AvRin5znldQwgvbnRwuvEFJhNy7XiJ9jK74oHbpHErZLfYNcJQffHzude_l cGMvvOlVg2JChp4Dho_NNmg-- Received: from [72.131.84.242] by web140601.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:25:51 PST Sm9lIG5ldmVyIHJldGlyZWQgaGUganVzdCBjaGFuZ2VkIHdlZWsgZGF5IGhvYmJ5OyB0aGFua2Z1bGx5LgoKCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KIEZyb206IFJhbmRhbGwgPHRyM2RyaXZlckBjYS5yci5jb20.ClRvOiBKb2UgQWxleGFuZGVyIDxuMTk3dHI0QGNzLmNvbT4gCkNjOiBmb3RAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQgClNlbnQ6IE1vbmRheSwgSmFudWFyeSAxNCwgMjAxMyA0OjI5IFBNClN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBbRm90XSBmb3QtcmFjaW5nLmNvbQogCi0tLS0gSm9lIEFsZXhhbmRlciABMAEBAQE- References: <8CFC0B94D787500-84C-12F3C@webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com> <20130114222937.NPIFT.207454.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:25:51 -0800 (PST) From: Ernest Husmann To: Randall , Joe Alexander Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe never retired he just changed week day hobby; thankfully. ________________________________ From: Randall To: Joe Alexander Cc: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com ---- Joe Alexander wrote: > I think us folks over 70 should quit volunteering, except our opinions. :-) > But you're retired! You're supposed to have all this free time compared to those of us who still have to work for a living. Or have I, like Bogey in Casablanca, been "misinformed" ? Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ehusmann53@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 17:00:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA93242552 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:00:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10661403D3 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:00:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 095C31C000070; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:56:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.1]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 99D20E000081; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:56:48 -0500 (EST) References: <20130114222937.NPIFT.207454.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> To: tr3driver@ca.rr.com Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com (205.188.59.132) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:56:48 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:56:48 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358207808; bh=NRzFHacjBvpWYQPvn0/9AwIeJ4BQL/0sSEiqsWhA4Eg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xJzjXH6Y3Ove2vkO9HpKEI25jfccEZvTlxXD7OB2PQTQsdSexlyO0eEV+BXBsNdHq UgboEVYVTcALrt5zeIorqfn+2uBKS2oVZd7H33qlY4Ri9GEVkGMAf/qaCnu3qrZ/xz K+iEpGb/L/60GGFXOD3M8mxRs51kWZLyiOLb30yY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c50f49b404dcf Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It's time you young guns take over... Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Randall To: Joe Alexander Cc: fot Sent: Mon, Jan 14, 2013 4:29 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com ---- Joe Alexander wrote: > I think us folks over 70 should quit volunteering, except our opinions. :-) > But you're retired! You're supposed to have all this free time compared to those of us who still have to work for a living. Or have I, like Bogey in Casablanca, been "misinformed" ? Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 17:03:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0082442498 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:03:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F8E403EF for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:03:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 29BCD1C0000E4; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:59:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.1]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id DE329E000081; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:59:44 -0500 (EST) References: <20130114215000.9WUAT.207189.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> <8CFC0B94D787500-84C-12F3C@webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com> <8EF892B1-6147-4B9B-9DED-E0513D190086@gdhs.com> To: jhhasty@gdhs.com Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com (205.188.59.132) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:59:44 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:59:44 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358207985; bh=8LrOqU6pr+pyQ4kqoRr29OaF1UIfVDvbvxP003i+3zk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=L4loMNZFQTrXkjVQF6T/JuSGmPUZMBrDM/8kK2SA6f4RyM0JYS4yVrB52fY+vIcTb oJ0ODx5bbNjRsuPU1HBNY7qINtKn+0FPANH4Pl7nEm0GhzlsnKHcSNWUNzSDY5xw/P KB/hnjJczmvcV8X+3Z+NtCwEQL4ZjUZJnq34dzug= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb50f49bf0758f Cc: tr3driver@ca.rr.com, fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net i thought the transmission thread was a good one and there were no bad answers. we could have it again, as i no longer have any memory of it. i wonder what position i would take next time. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: John Hasty To: Joe Alexander Cc: tr3driver ; fot Sent: Mon, Jan 14, 2013 4:44 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Rember Joe, no opinions on transmissions Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > I think us folks over 70 should quit volunteering, except our opinions. :-) > > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Randall > Cc: fot > Sent: Mon, Jan 14, 2013 3:51 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com > > > ---- BillDentin@aol.com wrote: >> I absolutely think all >> members should have access and even be encouraged to submit items, but I > also >> think the Website benefits with an 'editor'. > > Are you volunteering ? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 17:21:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC728424CB for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:21:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f46.google.com (mail-pb0-f46.google.com [209.85.160.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3FF4249B for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:21:33 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pb0-f46.google.com with SMTP id wy7so2444245pbc.19 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:18:01 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=Jow2XRW0VYJSAxPAaJ8YbIo/eUu9wBL5myQAIO23Dt4=; b=gr8I1h/ctPn1CXhseI+3GShdaI5rCmjJ51O7vt10T0WtpN2Wlr6pziUxgAm6J7mi4Z zotr6lBEckwoODAvtox8XE5wq9ORmKIWfBb626J9QestWLDKK3C/uf/Pzdj9Yjym8AlQ yHBCyDjSeYuwMe5pebKrKjlttRpjut50TIdGIWxkaqoHkzr25ncgArohipI4ewDBR4oT RH47SwG9N3o+GrDvWSb4hWkb/OdOisT8ZsqV6p7LpFOfz3bxV9YSooSgkP99d6klWdFe AdIm3ADgv2t7NPCbkKsZmCsVxDbz4AYTcFXsp7L0HuPfw9CEQG6ZxCrH1Rl8EPjDSkSU ot+w== Received: by 10.68.253.161 with SMTP id ab1mr239680984pbd.97.1358209081091; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:18:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.77.102 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:18:00 -0800 (PST) References: <20130114215000.9WUAT.207189.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> <8CFC0B94D787500-84C-12F3C@webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com> <8EF892B1-6147-4B9B-9DED-E0513D190086@gdhs.com> <8CFC0CA5C42EB5D-84C-13C18@webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:18:00 -0600 From: Jason Ostrowski To: Joe Alexander Cc: tr3driver@ca.rr.com, fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Perhaps that lack of memory could serve you well. Quite simply, when the tech scrutineers question's seem overwhelming... Perhaps an "I Forgot" might work. So long as you old guys keep passing your medicals..... I'm OK with a bit of fogginess as far as whats under there, due to memory loss. Hell I'll give ya'll one free Datsun part for every decade you have been racing. Seems only fair. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 17:27:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AEC7424B8 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:27:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DEF4249F for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:25:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 737001C00004E; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:22:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.1]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 2E05BE000081; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:22:13 -0500 (EST) References: <8CFC0B94D787500-84C-12F3C@webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com> <20130114222937.NPIFT.207454.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> <1358205951.82927.YahooMailNeo@web140601.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> To: ehusmann53@yahoo.com, tr3driver@ca.rr.com Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com (205.188.59.132) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:22:13 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:22:13 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358209333; bh=p4Qg8X5N1p53vM2FB+hk7adP7cHmW35kpO6aeRNm32k=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EjGch+AOhTY77tr5rcx5GysijWHzEOEJmWAZvP3VMw7PVhOjinNn97xin35o6hhXp vrYaPjthDmbtjdSxnRLU66ID68lZ4ycUpWnyIe3q8D557dAojJt3iNZ8F0f2QNIUhd WNMLDXapwv8Jay+K8WYzYNnPF5g2GCGTag23kZwA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b50f4a1350554 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It helps to have a legacy going....Sean & Mark....with Brendan perhaps completing driver's school this year. It's a big year for Brendan....likely going to State in wrestling, driver's school, and then off to the University....not to mention the Kastner Cup. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Ernest Husmann To: Randall ; Joe Alexander Cc: fot Sent: Mon, Jan 14, 2013 5:25 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Joe never retired he just changed week day hobby; thankfully. From: Randall To: Joe Alexander Cc: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com ---- Joe Alexander wrote: > I think us folks over 70 should quit volunteering, except our opinions. :-) > But you're retired! You're supposed to have all this free time compared to those of us who still have to work for a living. Or have I, like Bogey in Casablanca, been "misinformed" ? Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ehusmann53@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 17:30:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F08424C1 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:30:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from tr.ccfot.com (wsip-98-174-80-205.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90ED94249F for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:30:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7D8A4C091 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:26:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from tr.ccfot.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tr.ccfot.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TCHy+-w4PZVk for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:26:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from HENRYPRECISION (wsip-98-174-80-202.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.202]) (Authenticated sender: yellow04@tr4racer.com) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3E525A4C084 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:26:47 -0500 (EST) From: To: References: <23123.692496bf.3e25b9e3@aol.com> <8CFC0AE21E98589-61C-2259C@Webmail-d112.sysops.aol.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:26:47 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fot-racing.com is Mordy's site, Mordy makes the call. I'm just the wrench here... I don't mind updating the site, but it goes a whole lot easier if someone actually authors something I can drop on a page. That kind of thing I can do quick and easy. Me sitting on front of a blank page does nobody any favors. As far as the idea to have member bios and pictures, that does not sound like the FOT I know. Sounds like people who need to have their egos pumped up. I thought if you had a big ego, you race something other than a Truimph! Should we poll the group to see how many people actually want to post a bio and pictures? If there is a concensus, we can figure out the next step. Then, with Joe's blessing, we can proceed. Members with good intentions "going rogue" on stuff like this is not good! In case you didn't guess, I a "not participating" with a member bio page! Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Alexander" Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com > Editor good idea.....should be Henry's call on how to proceed, methinks. > and Mordy. > > And it would ideal to step back in order to go forward. > > I think Dennis is on to something here. > > I like a little RAG-TAG on the FOT list....as long as it doesnt get > personal.....just passionate. > > We have had some pretty decent threads, lately. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 17:32:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8269E424BF for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:32:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82024249F for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:32:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.202]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B74461C0000BA; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:28:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.1]) by mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 7FC92E000088; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:28:40 -0500 (EST) References: <20130114215000.9WUAT.207189.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> <8CFC0B94D787500-84C-12F3C@webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com> <8EF892B1-6147-4B9B-9DED-E0513D190086@gdhs.com> <8CFC0CA5C42EB5D-84C-13C18@webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com> To: jason@multivintage.com Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com (205.188.59.132) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:28:40 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:28:40 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358209720; bh=cor8tBpEa4Z88zmIomilB7QuTmT2mj+SeX9t+06b5bc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XnvU4uvmtwW9dxubtZLe1Q8GTmEjaDKflob+Iri9Ucr0jVz5wrMTzKeRJPxYfgD09 GXbp6B3pWCzdG1CA8AKIqmzMNwpmYwF3/bVD5V3ZnnAVHRJcY192nuqW/v1Lj7Vp7n QQIHVxYNppgcggVL9oBgQaPturzxApiUfDjihc+I= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33ca50f4a2b836b1 Cc: tr3driver@ca.rr.com, fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net if you could have made that rhyme, it would have been shear poetry Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Jason Ostrowski To: Joe Alexander Cc: jhhasty ; tr3driver ; fot Sent: Mon, Jan 14, 2013 6:18 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Perhaps that lack of memory could serve you well. Quite simply, when the tech scrutineers question's seem overwhelming... Perhaps an "I Forgot" might work. So long as you old guys keep passing your medicals..... I'm OK with a bit of fogginess as far as whats under there, due to memory loss. Hell I'll give ya'll one free Datsun part for every decade you have been racing. Seems only fair. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 17:33:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A664F424CD for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:33:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm6-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm6-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.158]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE67B40520 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:33:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.192] by nm6.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2013 00:30:07 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.106] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2013 00:30:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1011.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2013 00:30:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 27352 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Jan 2013 00:30:06 -0000 s=s1024; t=1358209805; bh=ndooThT81NTWme4N43OHO//XCVr3WTjxxJK3htzGoq8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kn4FzCIbgUqkcotMYeFEgJTI58zAqcOcFJ2rgUZU2cYiPiX6gdTaECPlwOWH3K1f3ihOi4a3+KGOvXiZxG7jZQ9z+sNqdRUoR93h9rVqd7TdEd+zfxuO3JmBcR6tlruf7jpwYb5gMaiZiwdJXlxYi6RRDwTNwzDEazqgvIzI2L0= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cIZmhN/WfpiDgpzvfTt4WWW9Ya+2W38W4AfeuijvK/L813SU3CDuacL2lqd/OVGaFnUDsRHqsSCpS2JhfdCaLbcRk9vCT1snHKKXjpUt/YkqPJh0r2BGoH4ugqCfabY5YoRBhJtjpA7onWXk774c6taeOts/kj7EC+8yfbHHZnk=; Ws4VAX0PwVH9MCmUdaL6Yncey7CI2vscjl4DoNFdhKYw9L_5dH5qJFA3HjrK RlRJsYBcKpv7c4pVo8TStyzYM3y5ve_QXFO5tdjS8Eab2vRAPMnjt1121bCv n64JVnc6I06nIdkid_K7doZcoUcS4i._5F_dJq7TTPtoSX_ySA7F6a5Rwcg. Q59C0wx1Mf2IrmhnVK25hjQK4bNlAJVIzJlY7WXjFKNYulKVeQjbybnAFQYG Ux_EVNTgVPdLYu_6YXbrLGfJJai2nZ8.W31JCQeQT0SwQwjq5KtAcvy26hb6 .kZIAp_FVOSPsKADrXGtY5TdgtElFTZ7WnZVgZsKKVcvEiiBYNvlrKRQolVW 5K5HclxLa69fuvI_I_BeP.nq7Y3gvNleWdBtdk8wyStpXcbNRfdGSInnzxEP qoHKNWk8DXNBsGkAY7_aC2lYoJGPAw0IbytAwxiAP_BixQ4Xt95Huanyw.vF 1oUBRvVqmKmj5zvQXEhm.DoM97xm6sLGs4IPTqJA- Received: from [76.221.83.131] by web182203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:30:05 PST aGVyZSdzIGEgZHVtYiBpZGVhLi4uLmhvdyBhYm91dCBhIGZhY2Vib29rIHBhZ2UuLi4uZG8gd2UgZXZlbiBoYXZlIG9uZT8gICBCb2JieQoKCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KRnJvbTogRGVubmlzIERlbGFwIDx5ZWxsb3ctZ3JlZW5Ac2JjZ2xvYmFsLm5ldD4KVG86IEJpbGwgQmFiY29jayA8cG9ub2JpbGxAZ21haWwuY29tPgpDYzogImZvdEBhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldCIgPGZvdEBhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldD4KU2VudDogTW9uLCBKYW51YXJ5IDE0LCAyMDEzIDE6MjA6MzUgUE0KU3UBMAEBAQE- References: <1358035484.7553.YahooMailClassic@web185003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <69B43FBD-0A77-471A-B64C-8B6F2980B0B2@bnj.com> <5A509E0A-8BC9-4A39-B56B-90E43F7729A5@sbcglobal.net> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:30:05 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: Dennis Delap Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net here's a dumb idea....how about a facebook page....do we even have one? Bobby ________________________________ From: Dennis Delap To: Bill Babcock Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Sent: Mon, January 14, 2013 1:20:35 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com I like Babcocks idea. If we had a template that the members could access - we could start to see who we are as a group. A bio section with pictures and words would be cool. That said - who on the list is even interested in making a page about themself and their Racing Triumph? On Jan 12, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: > Actually it would be pretty easy to move it to Wordpress and then give all the members author privileges. > On Jan 12, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Dennis DeLap wrote: > >> Fixing the FOT website at this point will be much like eating an elephant. >> >> Documentation of The Kastner Cup annual event - ever since I have been attending - is almost non existent on our site. >> We certainly have tons of pictures available. >> Do we have a writer? >> What is the web software? I am guessing something ancient. >> How hard is it to add things, make changes, move stuff around? >> Could I learn it and help out? >> >> Small moves - something everyday will get her done. >> Our website should be the goto place for everything FOT. >> >> >>> Dennis, >>> >>> The answer is the I'm the guy who updates it, and until my >>> clients stop >>> throwing money at me to do stuff for them, finding the time >>> and enthuisasm >>> to actually work on it is tough. This working for a living >>> stuff really gets >>> in the way of fun. >>> >>> Also noteworthy is there is SO MUCH STUFF going on with the >>> 2013 KCup, I >>> have no clue where to start. But I have confidence Jason >>> will help bail me >>> out... Having been involved at some level in several Kastner >>> Cup events, I >>> can say Joe Alexander (and his volunteer committee) are >>> really is pulling >>> off something pretty special here. It's seems to me all the >>> right stuff is >>> coming together. >>> >>> This might just be a very tough event to top in the future! >>> >>> Henry >>> yellow04@tr4racer.com >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Dennis Delap" >>> To: "Joe Alexander" >>> Cc: >>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 8:19 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] KASTNER CUP 2013 Misc. Ramblings >> AMERICA...FOUR >>> MILES OF BLACK MAGIC> >>> >>> >>>> Speaking of the FOT website. >>>> Why is it so outdated? >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billb@bnj.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 17:39:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 897EA424B6 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:39:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5714248D for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:39:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.140]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 0CFA03800005E; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:35:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.1]) by mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id CF201E000085; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:35:30 -0500 (EST) References: <23123.692496bf.3e25b9e3@aol.com> <8CFC0AE21E98589-61C-2259C@Webmail-d112.sysops.aol.com> <927F3717746F49A698E5135370EFEB58@TRIUMPH.local> To: yellow04@tr4racer.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com (205.188.59.132) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:35:30 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:35:30 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358210131; bh=mSnm7f9OELaJjLeKUUPij5d8FyuAg6VexabfwVUyPfk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=seViVBwP7WLpcg3I+V9I2yCPiQWtNdvYuk+8M2c1ym4BlFYWspsZ24PVWosJ1hqMl cIRcaJFOgCBDVQPqvYw4CjbTYEPRylnz6MYhN+34uPTtVeg9fp2m0OAc398oHQ1/fI gbnidHPVHAx9GS1RuqYOLPysZzawZuDiMbAK/vio= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338c50f4a452196c Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net we dont need bios....we already know too much about some of you. a roster with name, car, and state.....with email address option? then if someone wanted to get a hold of someone they could. since it is sponsored by Mordy...he gets the final word, methink. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: yellow04 To: fot Sent: Mon, Jan 14, 2013 6:27 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Fot-racing.com is Mordy's site, Mordy makes the call. I'm just the wrench here... I don't mind updating the site, but it goes a whole lot easier if someone actually authors something I can drop on a page. That kind of thing I can do quick and easy. Me sitting on front of a blank page does nobody any favors. As far as the idea to have member bios and pictures, that does not sound like the FOT I know. Sounds like people who need to have their egos pumped up. I thought if you had a big ego, you race something other than a Truimph! Should we poll the group to see how many people actually want to post a bio and pictures? If there is a concensus, we can figure out the next step. Then, with Joe's blessing, we can proceed. Members with good intentions "going rogue" on stuff like this is not good! In case you didn't guess, I a "not participating" with a member bio page! Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Alexander" Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com > Editor good idea.....should be Henry's call on how to proceed, methinks. > and Mordy. > > And it would ideal to step back in order to go forward. > > I think Dennis is on to something here. > > I like a little RAG-TAG on the FOT list....as long as it doesnt get > personal.....just passionate. > > We have had some pretty decent threads, lately. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 17:45:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912D4424CD for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:45:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com (imr-db02.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BDB42495 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:45:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7741E1C000170; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:41:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.1]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 246A0E000085; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:41:53 -0500 (EST) References: <1358035484.7553.YahooMailClassic@web185003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <69B43FBD-0A77-471A-B64C-8B6F2980B0B2@bnj.com> <5A509E0A-8BC9-4A39-B56B-90E43F7729A5@sbcglobal.net> <1358209805.34681.YahooMailRC@web182203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> To: igofaster@att.net, yellow-green@sbcglobal.net Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com (205.188.59.132) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:41:53 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:41:53 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358210513; bh=5D67zSwuEvufIVMzTh6QVHTMsIMUFiBeYjh7qwkJvyk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WAqxYaogmVbXpzK0o1ou3e9IXCTLIIV8i2FZfn4OiGcf7BUY29iAT7Ry3vhr4AP4f zGujCAC3OQvSebHd3WFwQnb7qBfhIIPRoFvnPHkJ7cvQ0Q4ZsnRlMZC1eQXEenUc0w DDZyJGpJFSyL+FY3Kp4QA1fF6Cbn86vGDnyn/JkY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c50f4a5d14469 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net ya, Ed Dunn has one. somebody else started one, then we got a little grumpy about it and ruined it. not everyone is on FB and it get's to be kind of an activity trap. it's really about keeping things simple.....staying low key is also good. kind of hard to stay low key with the Kastner Cup.....but we sure have improved the image of the TRIUMPH. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Bobby Whitehead To: Dennis Delap Cc: FoT Triumph Sent: Mon, Jan 14, 2013 6:30 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com here's a dumb idea....how about a facebook page....do we even have one? Bobby ________________________________ From: Dennis Delap To: Bill Babcock Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Sent: Mon, January 14, 2013 1:20:35 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com I like Babcocks idea. If we had a template that the members could access - we could start to see who we are as a group. A bio section with pictures and words would be cool. That said - who on the list is even interested in making a page about themself and their Racing Triumph? On Jan 12, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: > Actually it would be pretty easy to move it to Wordpress and then give all the members author privileges. > On Jan 12, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Dennis DeLap wrote: > >> Fixing the FOT website at this point will be much like eating an elephant. >> >> Documentation of The Kastner Cup annual event - ever since I have been attending - is almost non existent on our site. >> We certainly have tons of pictures available. >> Do we have a writer? >> What is the web software? I am guessing something ancient. >> How hard is it to add things, make changes, move stuff around? >> Could I learn it and help out? >> >> Small moves - something everyday will get her done. >> Our website should be the goto place for everything FOT. >> >> >>> Dennis, >>> >>> The answer is the I'm the guy who updates it, and until my >>> clients stop >>> throwing money at me to do stuff for them, finding the time >>> and enthuisasm >>> to actually work on it is tough. This working for a living >>> stuff really gets >>> in the way of fun. >>> >>> Also noteworthy is there is SO MUCH STUFF going on with the >>> 2013 KCup, I >>> have no clue where to start. But I have confidence Jason >>> will help bail me >>> out... Having been involved at some level in several Kastner >>> Cup events, I >>> can say Joe Alexander (and his volunteer committee) are >>> really is pulling >>> off something pretty special here. It's seems to me all the >>> right stuff is >>> coming together. >>> >>> This might just be a very tough event to top in the future! >>> >>> Henry >>> yellow04@tr4racer.com >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Dennis Delap" >>> To: "Joe Alexander" >>> Cc: >>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 8:19 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] KASTNER CUP 2013 Misc. Ramblings >> AMERICA...FOUR >>> MILES OF BLACK MAGIC> >>> >>> >>>> Speaking of the FOT website. >>>> Why is it so outdated? >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billb@bnj.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 18:16:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8944642496 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:16:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f46.google.com (mail-pa0-f46.google.com [209.85.220.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB17042496 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:16:40 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id bh2so2547505pad.19 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:13:07 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=nNTVjv/boSNPxJrCqPqZLyEuI8Jg+TdkrXaeyShog8E=; b=TvtEKf4BUE/Ga8EridtjRf7u2Qu2s6H+ob0UDt6ZAkXhzYGrNgew9mXcl+vm59fk0x qZOaeE1NT3Zof0do3Z/PC8VZidedDqs1NnfLmIg/mur/jdJPdtN9hnFkCm6jQYFtJxgN mRK9awnndvVOBdqbWcScW23N7X3OEmIW+XNAaPgQ6duT31UOyCKVII7T7Fj8wuvZKLKv EiQkE6aKLiql1snuwT1yayfmfc7LDcIa/hMbn/jFN633Gx8QqadmsPgTkryWF4Eg5ALI BuS0666HfjuY7MKoLcNmAnQNhk6oKB5aFsQ/tepauJe0nHvZCyFDR7ndVjDbKmpdVYV+ eoFA== Received: by 10.66.89.132 with SMTP id bo4mr7649340pab.62.1358212387709; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:13:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.77.102 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:13:07 -0800 (PST) References: <1358035484.7553.YahooMailClassic@web185003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <69B43FBD-0A77-471A-B64C-8B6F2980B0B2@bnj.com> <5A509E0A-8BC9-4A39-B56B-90E43F7729A5@sbcglobal.net> <1358209805.34681.YahooMailRC@web182203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <8CFC0D03F4022B3-84C-14146@webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:13:07 -0600 From: Jason Ostrowski To: Joe Alexander Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > "kind of hard to stay low key with the Kastner Cup.....but we sure have > improved the image of the TRIUMPH." > That's the low-keyers on high right there! Every year we have an "All Welcome INTERNATIONAL Race Meeting". Its Called the Kastner Cup. If you are into Triumph Racing... Then you really should be at the Kastner Cup. This is THE SHOWCASE for our individual race programs. They key players in the world of Triumphs may have no bio's on the world wide web. But, If they are one (a player). you should find them at the "Kastner Cup." See Everyone in Sept. Everyone! Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 18:18:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E836424B6 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:18:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail168c2.megamailservers.com (mail168c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF0E42485 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:18:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.239.229.232] (67.sub-174-252-156.myvzw.com [174.252.156.67]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail168c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r0F1Ebm1014160 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:14:39 -0500 References: <20130114215000.9WUAT.207189.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> <8CFC0B94D787500-84C-12F3C@webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com> <8EF892B1-6147-4B9B-9DED-E0513D190086@gdhs.com> <8CFC0CA5C42EB5D-84C-13C18@webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com> From: John Hasty Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:14:35 -0500 To: Joe Alexander a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=fXqmt0A3T/4lPX8WDIq99A==:17 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=k2tShu2tz5bETVrrtMIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=MG4Rcr4xqJIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=jZyq-Sda7lUA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=fvblDyahrBC_nE1RfOcA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=4xqF9hTrIicA:10 a=IeM00_vH1PHSqjkc:21 a=fXqmt0A3T/4lPX8WDIq99A==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "tr3driver@ca.rr.com" , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tell you what Joe, let's just number that thread as, say #116. To save space and time now when we need a good laugh all we need do is text "116" ! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > i thought the transmission thread was a good one and there were no bad answers. > > we could have it again, as i no longer have any memory of it. > > i wonder what position i would take next time. > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Hasty > To: Joe Alexander > Cc: tr3driver ; fot > Sent: Mon, Jan 14, 2013 4:44 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com > > Rember Joe, no opinions on transmissions > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > > I think us folks over 70 should quit volunteering, except our opinions. :-) > > > > > > > > > > Joe Alexander > > A. R. E. > > 645 1st Street > > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > > 319.464.4711 (cell) > > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Randall > > Cc: fot > > Sent: Mon, Jan 14, 2013 3:51 pm > > Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com > > > > > > ---- BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > >> I absolutely think all > >> members should have access and even be encouraged to submit items, but I > > also > >> think the Website benefits with an 'editor'. > > > > Are you volunteering ? > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 18:21:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F27E424B3 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:21:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail201c2.megamailservers.com (mail201c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0830E42486 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:21:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.239.229.232] (67.sub-174-252-156.myvzw.com [174.252.156.67]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail201c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r0F1IFOJ024455 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:18:17 -0500 References: <20130114215000.9WUAT.207189.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> <8CFC0B94D787500-84C-12F3C@webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com> <8EF892B1-6147-4B9B-9DED-E0513D190086@gdhs.com> <8CFC0CA5C42EB5D-84C-13C18@webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com> From: John Hasty Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:18:14 -0500 To: Jason Ostrowski a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=fXqmt0A3T/4lPX8WDIq99A==:17 a=b4TgfONAAAAA:8 a=nL2xp6NMebUsB-1eDdYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=kp3uRgNowesA:10 a=fXqmt0A3T/4lPX8WDIq99A==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "tr3driver@ca.rr.com" , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net "Medicals". Oh hell that reminds me tomorrow is go do tortuous things to this old body day. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2013, at 7:18 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > Perhaps that lack of memory could serve you well. > Quite simply, when the tech scrutineers question's seem overwhelming... > Perhaps an "I Forgot" might work. > So long as you old guys keep passing your medicals..... > I'm OK with a bit of fogginess as far as whats under there, due to memory loss. > Hell I'll give ya'll one free Datsun part for every decade you have been racing. > Seems only fair. > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 18:22:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27814424A5 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:22:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com (imr-db02.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 104A542486 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:22:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.139]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 210291C0000A3; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:19:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.1]) by mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D6E56E000086; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:18:59 -0500 (EST) References: <20130114215000.9WUAT.207189.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> <8CFC0B94D787500-84C-12F3C@webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com> <8EF892B1-6147-4B9B-9DED-E0513D190086@gdhs.com> <8CFC0CA5C42EB5D-84C-13C18@webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com> To: jhhasty@gdhs.com Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com (205.188.59.132) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:18:59 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:18:59 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358212740; bh=gsuU4ueu4CLS5+S0urSmnuwRn9hmNxVGSclyDAScVVI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NNFPm0zoTD2aqe0d6IhJs5bR1P4OghtKcbn0KxBxPjKQEAsZDtKCiuUcJrjg8hkEy yB79Izbpn+npDHRiZd9eGYVZ+qD+0LWINdzpSqE0pN+Rpso4JLKO8Swh3qe8c9Q6ao WLcN59x07IRk3C+IKLTkpsrmb5QFWRYqLCxBKFuo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338b50f4ae8334d5 Cc: tr3driver@ca.rr.com, fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I think I saw a comedy routine like that once....not sure how it ended. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: John Hasty To: Joe Alexander Cc: tr3driver ; fot Sent: Mon, Jan 14, 2013 7:14 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Tell you what Joe, let's just number that thread as, say #116. To save space and time now when we need a good laugh all we need do is text "116" ! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: i thought the transmission thread was a good one and there were no bad answers. we could have it again, as i no longer have any memory of it. i wonder what position i would take next time. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: John Hasty To: Joe Alexander Cc: tr3driver ; fot Sent: Mon, Jan 14, 2013 4:44 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Rember Joe, no opinions on transmissions Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > I think us folks over 70 should quit volunteering, except our opinions. :-) > > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Randall > Cc: fot > Sent: Mon, Jan 14, 2013 3:51 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com > > > ---- BillDentin@aol.com wrote: >> I absolutely think all >> members should have access and even be encouraged to submit items, but I > also >> think the Website benefits with an 'editor'. > > Are you volunteering ? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 18:29:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E35424C9 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:29:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D607D42496 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:28:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.12]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 53B411C000073; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:24:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.1]) by mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 19CAEE000091; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:24:28 -0500 (EST) References: <20130114215000.9WUAT.207189.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> <8CFC0B94D787500-84C-12F3C@webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com> <8EF892B1-6147-4B9B-9DED-E0513D190086@gdhs.com> <8CFC0CA5C42EB5D-84C-13C18@webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com> To: jhhasty@gdhs.com, jason@multivintage.com Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com (205.188.59.132) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:24:27 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:24:27 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358213068; bh=7k/4JjO/MXG1OB2VfANP8l/3bbW8/fa3hcRwaxOyfgM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=As50csACGx8Q7wvgJbww3xvr4i1yjN/Id1nE4ZS0R3QUr6D/A5Ed/RseXDjMIKMGE Za5b9XZ8vEQHSwbNWjpDxqFCGAFF50LkycDXye0MZjXUSXQqvlHhJ23F6XquPJOqF5 dDCY74JbMNe0GUDfX8hNGnM4+sHzxKcKadPl7c9c= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290c50f4afcc6020 Cc: tr3driver@ca.rr.com, fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net When I was 50, 27 year old son Sean wondered if I should race, or even if I could pass a race physical. Now HE is rapidly approaching 50 hehehe! Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: John Hasty To: Jason Ostrowski Cc: Joe Alexander ; tr3driver ; fot Sent: Mon, Jan 14, 2013 7:18 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com "Medicals". Oh hell that reminds me tomorrow is go do tortuous things to this old body day. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2013, at 7:18 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > Perhaps that lack of memory could serve you well. > Quite simply, when the tech scrutineers question's seem overwhelming... > Perhaps an "I Forgot" might work. > So long as you old guys keep passing your medicals..... > I'm OK with a bit of fogginess as far as whats under there, due to memory loss. > Hell I'll give ya'll one free Datsun part for every decade you have been racing. > Seems only fair. > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 18:45:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A968424D3 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:45:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3CB9403FA for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:44:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.89]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id npm61k0051vN32cA11h3BF; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:41:03 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id o1h21k00Z2yr1eL8i1h2zv; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:41:03 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:41:02 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Joe Alexander s=q20121106; t=1358214063; bh=3LO419e7+iQ3hCDX1lTi+OeBMRZfMnqGiyxL13AGt5U=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=QcvrC4xmTjWy9N9VlwD2fMC4AOK5pf488FA1NnoUwvVqZaLncgW97nodV4iLaSWZv 3+OcSAXXcYQORMsHOQ/ZKXR9o7ecDuHSE/1rZfFm77v3+9BtHmzXTInOiUxVIb6ugd biJJ5p1u3xfsOESOOHF948YFfxYC7Jn+c9v4yS8PGk6YVrQ8t9DZMpYIxGxsh3OGXE BGoUC6Y0lOZ93tXPX1qCTr5BQl+KhnqYDm5bgcnPVR9sG+vvjwSJsTvubFU10Q7O29 TYlymCLsU66io7ETxzrwUoX+VHW6zPlNf6ZHnJ0BWuBRbEV7mg0WZ1c2Dffutevki+ LYvrKuFk0UWOw== Cc: tr3driver@ca.rr.com, fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That's great, Joe. I like the hehehe! part. I'm rapidly approaching that age as well and I have to get my medical papers ready for this season. Should be no-prob. I just put fuel in my car. It's been almost 40 years since it last ran. I'm hoping that's no-prob too. Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Alexander" To: jhhasty@gdhs.com, jason@multivintage.com Cc: tr3driver@ca.rr.com, fot@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 5:24:27 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com When I was 50, 27 year old son Sean wondered if I should race, or even if I could pass a race physical. Now HE is rapidly approaching 50 hehehe! Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: John Hasty To: Jason Ostrowski Cc: Joe Alexander ; tr3driver ; fot Sent: Mon, Jan 14, 2013 7:18 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com "Medicals". Oh hell that reminds me tomorrow is go do tortuous things to this old body day. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2013, at 7:18 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > Perhaps that lack of memory could serve you well. > Quite simply, when the tech scrutineers question's seem overwhelming... > Perhaps an "I Forgot" might work. > So long as you old guys keep passing your medicals..... > I'm OK with a bit of fogginess as far as whats under there, due to memory loss. > Hell I'll give ya'll one free Datsun part for every decade you have been racing. > Seems only fair. > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 18:47:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86888403FF for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:47:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f177.google.com (mail-ie0-f177.google.com [209.85.223.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD834403FA for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:47:29 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f177.google.com with SMTP id k13so6301687iea.22 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:43:56 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:message-id:reply-to:x-priority :references:in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:cc:from :date:content-type:mime-version:x-gm-message-state; bh=777HsJ6CXGW1EXyDwXgNyHeaIfTQlXrwKHi97nwb3rw=; b=P9CgUTi13qSnqbXRz8FXKgOAqUQ7o69I5OHm4WicGf9ElzOqtBzUoRGmRW2ArKk7Fk BD+K6NNTWAJ3qFOP3MHRXpRjd5x81L8fy6agppl3gvuXsYRlC3TiN4MEMb6Q5PdR+A3t nfwc/DOKjfd9f286tEZHBZRHzzU46krr928AA6wA3CWoTCeYA6eerlKwor4cGNC9t4DB zTjzGRwyhKMoNo0bXU4uJHpMcpVZBiahlslxZhirMTzam0Rg90Elw/eCOpsA3+Io9coY ZiteAYVIBlZXEq//jFfmcf7CQYu33Hbo5oF2hOK9f3BnsFfFphIy4o+L6D7eGOL5MHul +Qww== Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:43:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.29.196.189 (bda-74-82-80-182.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gs6sm897144igc.11.2013.01.14.17.43.55 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:43:55 -0800 (PST) References: <8CFC0D63204DE0A-84C-1496B@webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com> <1217764446.2227158.1358214062628.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Sensitivity: Normal To: "davehogye" ,"Joe Alexander" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:43:50 +0000 Cc: tr3driver@ca.rr.com, fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net WOw dave, that's big! You have a fire extinguisher handy, Right? Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: davehogye Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:41:02 To: Joe Alexander Cc: ; ; ; Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com That's great, Joe. I like the hehehe! part. I'm rapidly approaching that age as well and I have to get my medical papers ready for this season. Should be no-prob. I just put fuel in my car. It's been almost 40 years since it last ran. I'm hoping that's no-prob too. Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Alexander" To: jhhasty@gdhs.com, jason@multivintage.com Cc: tr3driver@ca.rr.com, fot@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 5:24:27 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com When I was 50, 27 year old son Sean wondered if I should race, or even if I could pass a race physical. Now HE is rapidly approaching 50 hehehe! Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: John Hasty To: Jason Ostrowski Cc: Joe Alexander ; tr3driver ; fot Sent: Mon, Jan 14, 2013 7:18 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com "Medicals". Oh hell that reminds me tomorrow is go do tortuous things to this old body day. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2013, at 7:18 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > Perhaps that lack of memory could serve you well. > Quite simply, when the tech scrutineers question's seem overwhelming... > Perhaps an "I Forgot" might work. > So long as you old guys keep passing your medicals..... > I'm OK with a bit of fogginess as far as whats under there, due to memory loss. > Hell I'll give ya'll one free Datsun part for every decade you have been racing. > Seems only fair. > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 18:51:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C8A4424CA for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:51:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D20542486 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:51:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id o1C91k0040EPchoAA1o682; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:48:06 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id o1o61k00C2yr1eL8M1o6az; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:48:06 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:48:06 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: jason@multivintage.com s=q20121106; t=1358214486; bh=PIyxygoKO8BV/YBL3XrnUL5M9ocwODPVzUHSK/uUY/A=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=LxDIG3TSLTlXK0G7YD6TBA4/NJdqQbGV4XViixwYZ/4F2iQAcYxPOMr66KJMWOLug fWGNJp0Tz6lgPjFucNR4IoX60maBE3/AywFZ7phOkHZNpKtaev4pkkAJQn1QAStSij pnMjGvhXNc9ld0V4IaKZKArKTadL6BWfwhY8bHnb/HF+6kebIAjSB5LNdmPW8rW6GJ imskfW6WYLecReALrO59A8i3CsEq/Yz2gBiedPttZObxDjezS5kbRmA48WpnLJ8cD5 J6D7V3J/vkljfzocU3f3vD5fomvJmN0gGRZpiIIwvw8Q7bu2l4GoRL1ARdVu2vf4MH PPuwFCs0dYYcA== Cc: tr3driver@ca.rr.com, fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes and there's also a fire hydrant close by. Thanks for the vote of confidence. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: jason@multivintage.com To: "davehogye" , "Joe Alexander" Cc: tr3driver@ca.rr.com, fot@autox.team.net, jhhasty@gdhs.com Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 5:43:50 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com WOw dave, that's big! You have a fire extinguisher handy, Right? Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From: davehogye Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:41:02 +0000 (UTC) To: Joe Alexander Cc: ; ; ; Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com That's great, Joe. I like the hehehe! part. I'm rapidly approaching that age as well and I have to get my medical papers ready for this season. Should be no-prob. I just put fuel in my car. It's been almost 40 years since it last ran. I'm hoping that's no-prob too. Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Alexander" To: jhhasty@gdhs.com, jason@multivintage.com Cc: tr3driver@ca.rr.com, fot@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 5:24:27 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com When I was 50, 27 year old son Sean wondered if I should race, or even if I could pass a race physical. Now HE is rapidly approaching 50 hehehe! Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: John Hasty To: Jason Ostrowski Cc: Joe Alexander ; tr3driver ; fot Sent: Mon, Jan 14, 2013 7:18 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com "Medicals". Oh hell that reminds me tomorrow is go do tortuous things to this old body day. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2013, at 7:18 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > Perhaps that lack of memory could serve you well. > Quite simply, when the tech scrutineers question's seem overwhelming... > Perhaps an "I Forgot" might work. > So long as you old guys keep passing your medicals..... > I'm OK with a bit of fogginess as far as whats under there, due to memory loss. > Hell I'll give ya'll one free Datsun part for every decade you have been racing. > Seems only fair. > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 21:16:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6286242539 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:16:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60FA342531 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:16:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.8]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4D2441C0004FF for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 23:12:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dec003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dec003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.53.201]) by mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1F9AAE00008D for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 23:12:16 -0500 (EST) References: <002401cdf1d2$abd40f00$037c2d00$@aero> To: fot@autox.team.net From: robertten1@aol.com Received: from 96.233.64.253 by webmail-m070.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.41) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 23:12:15 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 23:12:16 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358223136; bh=hwSbEYr/mOtiYpZGPdHi1xqzcshjoN6O12/nXOGsxZY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Y4sAN6K4J+foFe0pZm5Wbi/FYQbwp8UJJgSPp5gaogaWJYAIF1+wqCaqltCEQt0Bv UTIWlma2C/PInzY9d3HTlwzjm/0xTdWK28x7MOuTcpht5BC6EQNXcuIBpa0vdF3GIJ MV0/cFAjqmzgLSRhqiXAnS7bX820FE3VvpQsreTs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290850f4d7200644 Subject: Re: [Fot] 1147cc Spit manifold gaskets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'd look for a Payen Head Set for Spit Mk1/Herald 1200. Though I'm Not sure if you are looking for the carb gaskets or the metal sandwich intake-manifold Head Gasket. I might have some of the Carb Gaskets in my spares. Good Luck, Bob T '63 Spit Mk1 ( street ) '64 Spit GT ( autocrosser ) -----Original Message----- From: robert bownes To: Robert MacKenzie Cc: fot Sent: Sun, Jan 13, 2013 4:30 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] 1147cc Spit manifold gaskets I found one at, believe it or not, NAPA. That was about 10 years ago though. On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Robert MacKenzie wrote: > Does anybody have a source for good intake/exhaust manifold gaskets for the 1147cc Spitfire engine? I can get the $3 paper ones but am looking for a better quality gasket. I need one urgently. Robert MacKenzie NASS # 511 Austin Texas '78 1500 (street) '71 GT6 MKIII (project) '62 Spitfire 4 (race) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 14 21:47:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8344042556 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:47:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from ex.dunnwalshholdings.com (unknown [173.219.117.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC5ED42532 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:47:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::6cea:93a1:26a:8c3c]) by TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::6cea:93a1:26a:8c3c%15]) with mapi; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:44:12 -0800 From: Edward Dunn To: Bobby Whitehead , Dennis Delap Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:44:03 -0800 Thread-Topic: [Fot] fot-racing.com Thread-Index: Ac3yt4Gn5L5feE4KSaW1lYq67RvKawAI0jxw References: <1358035484.7553.YahooMailClassic@web185003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <69B43FBD-0A77-471A-B64C-8B6F2980B0B2@bnj.com> <5A509E0A-8BC9-4A39-B56B-90E43F7729A5@sbcglobal.net> <1358209805.34681.YahooMailRC@web182203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, we do! https://www.facebook.com/FriendsOfTriumph Edward Dunn West Coast Vintage Racing 2240 Encinitas Blvd., Suite D101 Encinitas CA 92024 760-492-3814 www.vintageracing.us -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bobby Whitehead Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 4:30 PM To: Dennis Delap Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com here's a dumb idea....how about a facebook page....do we even have one? Bobby ________________________________ From: Dennis Delap To: Bill Babcock Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Sent: Mon, January 14, 2013 1:20:35 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com I like Babcocks idea. If we had a template that the members could access - we could start to see who we are as a group. A bio section with pictures and words would be cool. That said - who on the list is even interested in making a page about themself and their Racing Triumph? On Jan 12, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: > Actually it would be pretty easy to move it to Wordpress and then give > all the members author privileges. > On Jan 12, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Dennis DeLap wrote: > >> Fixing the FOT website at this point will be much like eating an elephant. >> >> Documentation of The Kastner Cup annual event - ever since I have >> been attending - is almost non existent on our site. >> We certainly have tons of pictures available. >> Do we have a writer? >> What is the web software? I am guessing something ancient. >> How hard is it to add things, make changes, move stuff around? >> Could I learn it and help out? >> >> Small moves - something everyday will get her done. >> Our website should be the goto place for everything FOT. >> >> >>> Dennis, >>> >>> The answer is the I'm the guy who updates it, and until my clients >>> stop throwing money at me to do stuff for them, finding the time and >>> enthuisasm to actually work on it is tough. This working for a >>> living stuff really gets in the way of fun. >>> >>> Also noteworthy is there is SO MUCH STUFF going on with the >>> 2013 KCup, I >>> have no clue where to start. But I have confidence Jason will help >>> bail me out... Having been involved at some level in several Kastner >>> Cup events, I can say Joe Alexander (and his volunteer committee) >>> are really is pulling off something pretty special here. It's seems >>> to me all the right stuff is coming together. >>> >>> This might just be a very tough event to top in the future! >>> >>> Henry >>> yellow04@tr4racer.com >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Dennis Delap" >>> To: "Joe Alexander" >>> Cc: >>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 8:19 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] KASTNER CUP 2013 Misc. Ramblings >> AMERICA...FOUR MILES OF BLACK MAGIC> >>> >>> >>>> Speaking of the FOT website. >>>> Why is it so outdated? >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billb@bnj.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 15 03:23:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB75A400A5 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:23:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from tr.ccfot.com (wsip-98-174-80-205.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310DF42546 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:22:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554E0A4C091 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 05:19:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from tr.ccfot.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tr.ccfot.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fRjDsZr0sYCx for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 05:19:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from HENRYPRECISION (wsip-98-174-80-202.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.202]) (Authenticated sender: yellow04@tr4racer.com) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3431AA4C087 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 05:19:13 -0500 (EST) From: To: "FoT Triumph" References: <1358035484.7553.YahooMailClassic@web185003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><69B43FBD-0A77-471A-B64C-8B6F2980B0B2@bnj.com><5A509E0A-8BC9-4A39-B56B-90E43F7729A5@sbcglobal.net><1358209805.34681.YahooMailRC@web182203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB01F417ADCDF0@TITAN.dwholdings.local> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 05:19:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ding ding ding ding..... We have a winner!!! Our Facebook page seems perfect for what we are talking about here, and it's already up and running. Do we really need more? Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Edward Dunn" >Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com > > Yes, we do! https://www.facebook.com/FriendsOfTriumph > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bobby Whitehead >> Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com >> >> here's a dumb idea....how about a facebook page....do we even have one? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 15 07:14:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F5A842569 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 07:14:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23764040E for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 07:14:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.99.26] (c-76-99-29-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [76.99.29.73]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MGO006C37DLVP20@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:10:35 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-01-15_05:2013-01-15,2013-01-15,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=4 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1301150097 From: Scott Janzen Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:10:33 -0500 References: <002401cdf1d2$abd40f00$037c2d00$@aero> <8CFC0EDA2FE8BC5-1808-265DE@webmail-m070.sysops.aol.com> To: robertten1@aol.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 1147cc Spit manifold gaskets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You might try PRI. I know a lot of people have issues with PRI, but he makes the best manifold gaskets I've found for my GT6. Heavy composite material, so good that I have re-used these gaskets several times, disassembling and re-assembling. On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:12 PM, robertten1@aol.com wrote: I'd look for a Payen Head Set for Spit Mk1/Herald 1200. Though I'm Not sure if you are looking for the carb gaskets or the metal sandwich intake-manifold Head Gasket. I might have some of the Carb Gaskets in my spares. Good Luck, Bob T '63 Spit Mk1 ( street ) '64 Spit GT ( autocrosser ) -----Original Message----- From: robert bownes To: Robert MacKenzie Cc: fot Sent: Sun, Jan 13, 2013 4:30 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] 1147cc Spit manifold gaskets I found one at, believe it or not, NAPA. That was about 10 years ago though. On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Robert MacKenzie wrote: > Does anybody have a source for good intake/exhaust manifold gaskets for the 1147cc Spitfire engine? I can get the $3 paper ones but am looking for a better quality gasket. I need one urgently. Robert MacKenzie NASS # 511 Austin Texas '78 1500 (street) '71 GT6 MKIII (project) '62 Spitfire 4 (race) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 15 07:20:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05EE142570 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 07:20:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F2C403F7 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 07:20:43 -0700 (MST) a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:17 a=7KaaxAUCt-sA:10 a=5Hgfq0S2HkoA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=0-ZEXOxV_yUA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=iRQ_8_u-AAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=MK9FaA28AAAA:8 a=HHGDD-5mAAAA:8 a=Sd4aixews-0GJAL6_IsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=L1_PV_DVcX8A:10 a=DgEMpHN06QsA:10 a=i1zE5R4R5dEA:10 a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:117 Received: from [67.255.16.235] ([67.255.16.235:53692] helo=Shop) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 4E/6A-25872-3E465F05; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:17:07 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: "'Scott Janzen'" , References: <002401cdf1d2$abd40f00$037c2d00$@aero> <8CFC0EDA2FE8BC5-1808-265DE@webmail-m070.sysops.aol.com> <9815A5D4-7CAD-4ACD-B95D-8322F6C13CDF@me.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:17:17 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac3zKjGahPA1e/yvTYyb0p/l50+wEwAABWdQ Content-Language: en-us Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 1147cc Spit manifold gaskets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I used to use his gaskets and they were good, WERE! I ordered some recently and they were wafer thin, warped and very much like what one might expect from VB. These were for Spitfire 1296 applications. It also took three weeks to get the right application parts which he sent twice (wrong parts each time) via next day at my expense. His response was to "just use two!" when I told him these were unacceptable. Sorry, based on that experience, never again! Russ Moore Spitfire #49 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Scott Janzen Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:11 AM To: robertten1@aol.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 1147cc Spit manifold gaskets You might try PRI. I know a lot of people have issues with PRI, but he makes the best manifold gaskets I've found for my GT6. Heavy composite material, so good that I have re-used these gaskets several times, disassembling and re-assembling. On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:12 PM, robertten1@aol.com wrote: I'd look for a Payen Head Set for Spit Mk1/Herald 1200. Though I'm Not sure if you are looking for the carb gaskets or the metal sandwich intake-manifold Head Gasket. I might have some of the Carb Gaskets in my spares. Good Luck, Bob T '63 Spit Mk1 ( street ) '64 Spit GT ( autocrosser ) -----Original Message----- From: robert bownes To: Robert MacKenzie Cc: fot Sent: Sun, Jan 13, 2013 4:30 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] 1147cc Spit manifold gaskets I found one at, believe it or not, NAPA. That was about 10 years ago though. On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Robert MacKenzie wrote: > Does anybody have a source for good intake/exhaust manifold gaskets > for the 1147cc Spitfire engine? I can get the $3 paper ones but am looking for a better quality gasket. I need one urgently. Robert MacKenzie NASS # 511 Austin Texas '78 1500 (street) '71 GT6 MKIII (project) '62 Spitfire 4 (race) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 15 07:22:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 000514257B for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 07:22:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C60403F7 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 07:22:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.99.26] (c-76-99-29-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [76.99.29.73]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MGO00HFV7R1E330@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:18:40 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-01-15_05:2013-01-15,2013-01-15,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1301150099 From: Scott Janzen Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:18:37 -0500 References: <002401cdf1d2$abd40f00$037c2d00$@aero> <8CFC0EDA2FE8BC5-1808-265DE@webmail-m070.sysops.aol.com> <9815A5D4-7CAD-4ACD-B95D-8322F6C13CDF@me.com> <001f01cdf32b$066ea430$134bec90$@rr.com> To: Spitfire Racing Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] 1147cc Spit manifold gaskets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net good thing I stocked up on the ones for the GT6 that I like! Sounds true to form, anyway. On Jan 15, 2013, at 9:17 AM, Spitfire Racing wrote: I used to use his gaskets and they were good, WERE! I ordered some recently and they were wafer thin, warped and very much like what one might expect from VB. These were for Spitfire 1296 applications. It also took three weeks to get the right application parts which he sent twice (wrong parts each time) via next day at my expense. His response was to "just use two!" when I told him these were unacceptable. Sorry, based on that experience, never again! Russ Moore Spitfire #49 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Scott Janzen Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:11 AM To: robertten1@aol.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 1147cc Spit manifold gaskets You might try PRI. I know a lot of people have issues with PRI, but he makes the best manifold gaskets I've found for my GT6. Heavy composite material, so good that I have re-used these gaskets several times, disassembling and re-assembling. On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:12 PM, robertten1@aol.com wrote: I'd look for a Payen Head Set for Spit Mk1/Herald 1200. Though I'm Not sure if you are looking for the carb gaskets or the metal sandwich intake-manifold Head Gasket. I might have some of the Carb Gaskets in my spares. Good Luck, Bob T '63 Spit Mk1 ( street ) '64 Spit GT ( autocrosser ) -----Original Message----- From: robert bownes To: Robert MacKenzie Cc: fot Sent: Sun, Jan 13, 2013 4:30 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] 1147cc Spit manifold gaskets I found one at, believe it or not, NAPA. That was about 10 years ago though. On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Robert MacKenzie wrote: > Does anybody have a source for good intake/exhaust manifold gaskets > for the 1147cc Spitfire engine? I can get the $3 paper ones but am looking for a better quality gasket. I need one urgently. Robert MacKenzie NASS # 511 Austin Texas '78 1500 (street) '71 GT6 MKIII (project) '62 Spitfire 4 (race) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 15 09:16:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC26F42566 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:16:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s6.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s6.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18A142548 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:16:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU168-W116 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s6.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 15 Jan 2013 08:13:11 -0800 From: marty sukey To: , , Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:13:11 -0500 References: <1358035484.7553.YahooMailClassic@web185003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>, <69B43FBD-0A77-471A-B64C-8B6F2980B0B2@bnj.com>, <5A509E0A-8BC9-4A39-B56B-90E43F7729A5@sbcglobal.net>, <1358209805.34681.YahooMailRC@web182203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, <36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB01F417ADCDF0@TITAN.dwholdings.local> FILETIME=[370580E0:01CDF33B] Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks a bunch Ed.:) You have drug me kicking and screaming into the face book masses. Something I swore I would never do but the FOT fb site looked pretty neat. Now to figure out this new (to me) stuff. Marty ---------------------------------------- > From: edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com > To: igofaster@att.net; yellow-green@sbcglobal.net > Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:44:03 -0800 > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com > > Yes, we do! https://www.facebook.com/FriendsOfTriumph > > Edward Dunn > > West Coast Vintage Racing > 2240 Encinitas Blvd., Suite D101 > Encinitas CA 92024 > > 760-492-3814 > www.vintageracing.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of Bobby Whitehead > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 4:30 PM > To: Dennis Delap > Cc: FoT Triumph > Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com > > here's a dumb idea....how about a facebook page....do we even have one? > Bobby > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Dennis Delap > To: Bill Babcock > Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" > Sent: Mon, January 14, 2013 1:20:35 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com > > I like Babcocks idea. > If we had a template that the members could access - we could start to see who > we are as a group. A bio section with pictures and words would be cool. > That said - who on the list is even interested in making a page about themself > and their Racing Triumph? > > On Jan 12, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: > > > Actually it would be pretty easy to move it to Wordpress and then give > > all > the members author privileges. > > On Jan 12, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Dennis DeLap > wrote: > > > >> Fixing the FOT website at this point will be much like eating an elephant. > >> > >> Documentation of The Kastner Cup annual event - ever since I have > >> been > attending - is almost non existent on our site. > >> We certainly have tons of pictures available. > >> Do we have a writer? > >> What is the web software? I am guessing something ancient. > >> How hard is it to add things, make changes, move stuff around? > >> Could I learn it and help out? > >> > >> Small moves - something everyday will get her done. > >> Our website should be the goto place for everything FOT. > >> > >> > >>> Dennis, > >>> > >>> The answer is the I'm the guy who updates it, and until my clients > >>> stop throwing money at me to do stuff for them, finding the time and > >>> enthuisasm to actually work on it is tough. This working for a > >>> living stuff really gets in the way of fun. > >>> > >>> Also noteworthy is there is SO MUCH STUFF going on with the > >>> 2013 KCup, I > >>> have no clue where to start. But I have confidence Jason will help > >>> bail me out... Having been involved at some level in several Kastner > >>> Cup events, I can say Joe Alexander (and his volunteer committee) > >>> are really is pulling off something pretty special here. It's seems > >>> to me all the right stuff is coming together. > >>> > >>> This might just be a very tough event to top in the future! > >>> > >>> Henry > >>> yellow04@tr4racer.com > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Dennis Delap" > >>> To: "Joe Alexander" > >>> Cc: > >>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 8:19 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] KASTNER CUP 2013 Misc. Ramblings >>> AMERICA...FOUR MILES OF BLACK MAGIC> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Speaking of the FOT website. > >>>> Why is it so outdated? > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billb@bnj.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 15 09:28:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A534254E for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:28:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF404041E for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:28:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.138]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 64EE61C000282; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:25:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msa001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msa001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.65]) by mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 082F8E00008B; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:25:09 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d053.sysops.aol.com (205.188.170.229) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:25:08 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:25:08 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358267109; bh=a5n7JM0L1v4a3Lsm6v4TznsABEYBiypDDyNMKldyiWk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tlQJSNPn3xmRHUFRESpgAYcTDext+IatXEywLzbvUbtU7NQ13m8bk5z5C/4e3SQ3j /eDK6mPFy2HvE2vrIdh5Sk4egZ93p1JjeifHklkjLPXlsYWmGcStzIRLeafstx+iMQ U152k1nb1393ZKfHbF40QebyN3D01nzRgOh9oP0c= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338a50f582e515f9 Subject: [Fot] VSCDA BANQUET 2 February13 Janet Guthrie HONORED GUEST and Speaker Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT: I have not attended in recent years because of winter and distance, but rethinking it with our involvement with VSCDA this year with the KASTNER CUP.....and it doesnt interfere with DISTRICT and STATE wrestling tournaments. :-) VSCDA.org for details. Anyone else in? It would be a good time to get together, and a good time. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 15 10:03:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4274256B for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:03:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 814FE40517 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:01:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 42EBC1C0001F3 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:58:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mte004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mte004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.236.77]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 14682E000088; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:58:13 -0500 (EST) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:58:12 -0500 (EST) To: n197tr4@cs.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358269093; bh=eWczOo6RuW3WWgQNOfwmuLHCz47sUlp5i/4fl29OOi0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NHuguWiM+ZUWCt/vcVAGZjq+lRTGf86Tpss3/bS5h+E6NiA3HjAgDBN1Z4DMR0rYT qy0jbH9j7eIpGh16RAlImhLv+hfYHIIn2ZyUOYf4Yjmg9lFBj0GSPRAAK9CJw23ACq q/jH+8MR4QyvXMTNpZOP2O/QgueQnTezr+M/xiFI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb50f58aa53b7f Subject: Re: [Fot] VSCDA BANQUET 2 February13 Janet Guthrie HONORED GUEST and Speaker Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 01/15/2013 10:25:17 AM Central Standard Time, n197tr4@cs.com writes: > I have not attended in recent years because of winter and distance, but > rethinking it with our involvement with VSCDA this year with the KASTNER > CUP.....and it doesnt interfere with DISTRICT and STATE wrestling > tournaments. > :-) > > VSCDA.org for details. Anyone else in? It would be a good time to get > together, and a good time. > Joe... Bob Wismer and I usually attend this banquet, but this year we both have family conflicts. Down through the years it has always been a great way to get together with fellow racers during the winter. VSCDA is doing something different for 2013, and holding the event in conjunction with another 'auto club' group. Not sure of the impact this will have, nor how it will work compared to what they have done in the past, but regardless...I wish I was able to go as their speaker and honored guest is Janet Guthrie, who is one classy lady and was one heck of a driver. Granted she is best known as a female Motorsports trail blazer, but more than a few believe that all she lacked was top shelf equipment and she would have been a record setter. Look what she did in TransAm and without a Major Team effort. A few years back she graced a Beady Eye VINTAGE TRIUMPH Racing Team wine and cheese party at Road America with her presence. She's both a great sport, and one classy lady. Her book: Janet Guthrie-A Life at Full Throttle is a very good read and recommended. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 15 10:11:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811824255A for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:11:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (unknown [67.222.55.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 58B4840517 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:11:28 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 6441 invoked by uid 0); 15 Jan 2013 17:07:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO just64.justhost.com) (173.254.28.64) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2013 17:07:41 -0000 Received: from [173.22.113.197] (port=65069 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Tv9zA-0006sa-QF; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:07:40 -0700 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:07:39 -0600 To: Joe Alexander ,fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews References: <8CFC15404B9B6A4-1EE0-2EAF5@webmail-d053.sysops.aol.com> {sentby:smtp auth 173.22.113.197 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] VSCDA BANQUET 2 February13 Janet Guthrie HONORED GUEST and Speaker Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've been considering it but haven't signed up yet. I think the "special room rate" expired yesterday. There's a McKee Engineering race shop tour and brunch with Bob McKee and Janet Guthrie 9:30 am to 1 pm too. Tony Drews At 10:25 AM 1/15/2013, Joe Alexander wrote: > FOT: > >I have not attended in recent years because of winter and distance, but >rethinking it with our involvement with VSCDA this year with the KASTNER >CUP.....and it doesnt interfere with DISTRICT and STATE wrestling tournaments. >:-) > >VSCDA.org for details. Anyone else in? It would be a good time to get >together, and a good time. > > > >Joe Alexander >A. R. E. >645 1st Street >Jesup, Iowa 50648 >319.464.4711 (cell) >n197tr4@cs.com >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 15 10:32:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A154F4256A for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:32:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9D340E82 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:32:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.132]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 5DA8B1C000189; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:28:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.174.27.190] (mobile-198-228-196-005.mycingular.net [198.228.196.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 51607E0004A5; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:28:21 -0500 (EST) References: <002401cdf1d2$abd40f00$037c2d00$@aero> <8CFC0EDA2FE8BC5-1808-265DE@webmail-m070.sysops.aol.com> <9815A5D4-7CAD-4ACD-B95D-8322F6C13CDF@me.com> <001f01cdf32b$066ea430$134bec90$@rr.com> From: Christopher Bock Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:28:23 -0500 To: Scott Janzen x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358270911; bh=5r0uJpCPRRvuRCKhvA0/YVt8dVF1acEof/jzXFQZFmg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=ploTqu5a69kMKC9WRmNrk5e16PDUau5ARqdiHy1ePncxpQWxGjZvcHGCQ3JdHRqG2 MKf7txDLr2T8bS4vp/nX9HqIRdrAsdpKDEJHGpEVxtsnltcxy7/szuSehQV1tX/GiH YAVvfc2CVQsSXAPTdm7teKTtxllaQFT4XaHzD3Ss= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338450f591b52139 Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] 1147cc Spit manifold gaskets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici Threw another club I belong to I might be able to provide a contact at a place that can make just about any gasket (head, exhaust, intake, water pump) you might need. I am reaching out to them. Let me know if anyone is interested and I will blast an email to this club Sincerely Chris PS. I have spit parts for sale cheap! Ask and you might be surprise send what I have. On Jan 15, 2013, at 9:18 AM, Scott Janzen wrote: > good thing I stocked up on the ones for the GT6 that I like! > > Sounds true to form, anyway. > > On Jan 15, 2013, at 9:17 AM, Spitfire Racing wrote: > > I used to use his gaskets and they were good, WERE! I ordered some recently > and they were wafer thin, warped and very much like what one might expect > from VB. These were for Spitfire 1296 applications. It also took three weeks > to get the right application parts which he sent twice (wrong parts each > time) via next day at my expense. His response was to "just use two!" when I > told him these were unacceptable. Sorry, based on that experience, never > again! > > Russ Moore > Spitfire #49 > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Scott Janzen > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:11 AM > To: robertten1@aol.com > Cc: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] 1147cc Spit manifold gaskets > > You might try PRI. I know a lot of people have issues with PRI, but he > makes the best manifold gaskets I've found for my GT6. Heavy composite > material, so good that I have re-used these gaskets several times, > disassembling and re-assembling. > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:12 PM, robertten1@aol.com wrote: > > I'd look for a Payen Head Set for Spit Mk1/Herald 1200. Though I'm Not sure > if you are looking for the carb gaskets or the metal sandwich > intake-manifold Head Gasket. I might have some of the Carb Gaskets in my > spares. > > Good Luck, > Bob T > '63 Spit Mk1 ( street ) > '64 Spit GT ( autocrosser ) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: robert bownes > To: Robert MacKenzie > Cc: fot > Sent: Sun, Jan 13, 2013 4:30 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] 1147cc Spit manifold gaskets > > > I found one at, believe it or not, NAPA. That was about 10 years ago though. > On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Robert MacKenzie > wrote: >> Does anybody have a source for good intake/exhaust manifold gaskets >> for the > 1147cc Spitfire engine? I can get the $3 paper ones but am looking for a > better quality gasket. > > I need one urgently. > > Robert MacKenzie > NASS # 511 > Austin Texas > '78 1500 (street) > '71 GT6 MKIII (project) > '62 Spitfire 4 (race) > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com > ______________________________________________ > ot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > rchive: http://www.team.net/archive > orums: http://www.team.net/forums > nsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 15 15:18:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ACCA427FC for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:18:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A0B426BC for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:18:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.1]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E3CF71C0000EE for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:14:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.244.229.137] (mobile-198-228-224-128.mycingular.net [198.228.224.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 1CB54E0000F4 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:14:57 -0500 (EST) References: <002d01cdf367$db91a9f0$92b4fdd0$@verizon.net> From: Christopher Bock Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:14:57 -0500 To: FoTTriumph x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358288097; bh=hzeNEA7CMM4cEyISswkrt4R4+/Gf5kl+I2Kf+zGl9+M=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=h5zaIRegyGT6M/oXPVa2wZ3FvS0hbb2k7wiS97BuX9mUc1b7nKb2RSllr3vdKNjOZ FWVfFqMMlmwE7VigcIoL/L66WKtZi0t1wxRc0JcTNzBUiyhbqqBuqMUjTvhAb8DV6S Fcvwt8o7RzVGX8kz5gJ+shFiTpfWyIvzsfxHBe8A= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290150f5d4e11b2c Subject: [Fot] Gaskets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici Here is a good contact for gaskets. I remember that he has made some copper head gaskets. I think he made an exotic material (fiber type) head gasket. Don't quote me on what they can do. Find out for yourself and contact them. Chris > MERCER GASKET & SHIM INC > 110 BENIGNO BLVD > BELLMAWR, NJ 08031 > (800) 210-5000 > www.mercergasket.com > > Tom Evans > Tricars@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 15 18:42:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD8C4292D for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:42:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F00E42919 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:41:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id oBv61k00917UAYkA1ReDXj; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:38:13 +0000 Received: from locutus ([75.70.96.161]) by omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id oRe91k0083UuT0T8ZReCT3; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:38:13 +0000 From: "Jim Gray" To: "'FoT Triumph'" Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:27:14 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac3ziJ1Ajsh/zJrWTk6j/FmliIC8Zg== s=q20121106; t=1358300293; bh=Lmb93H+rOMJahCQYW+ThlWKHNbwV3tT9ZGa4yZLdu/A=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=R3Fmnts43UNQtUCnkdkn6MrBgbWpQdgQvuH003WGlZtftufUhSLuylwjCqCIqNz/H 438MhXTQAAsbLnpshaiAZ3uMkv+dGygoFNGMkmN9tKEEDRMRkftgc7+G94XKwA5BHL YMhNyrmm2G1v3a2dlK4qiVXfrSg6LtWWUrgxXKnhAUfLtZ46AbrlfF705vHBZNH5SW wgAmLUdxzv2PRnur0MTq59SnOs8OjjyyOlDq/Ou73qyLBOI1TwA2+ltIrcvBmKnr0O lba4f5EjphPBW9VMSnfD0xzT0cCUrvjCnZpnlyaDe5+9vl0GFUU021a65kOhg99PeJ +vcEs+Q8EWPVA== Subject: [Fot] TR4 deck height Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Greetings FoT, I was curious as to what the group likes to run for deck height or piston to head clearance assuming forged rods and stock crank are used. I have heard everywhere from zero to .040 Thanks as always, jim g _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 00:05:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192A3429BC for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:05:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f171.google.com (mail-wi0-f171.google.com [209.85.212.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77050428F2 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:03:14 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id hn14so3114259wib.4 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 22:59:34 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=d+ReIuq7y7vFK5UDEd913W7X6Xq3pL/RjuDZ5I7FINM=; b=kojlmtCASGqUa9nYbtZGj+IiwShwUN0vf7hPLo/QPUdsvmGeuUHplmrur7pVe0Qzgi Zph04hIytw38vqKowH8sa9oQ0V9Ex1+pOLP062N9gDPitDcq5iY6ax5QGwWPX+0p26vG zOevoUMwqjSZxFZf6/i3Xf62PgQY/LbGoHxORy4Dx8fBFbSOtPge5nNOTs7LVZm7o9Sa MBaE6nWkcQ0vEwAWelF6x+YSk2Vv/+tm+tPT7obzlmE+NfOtieAmwKteB1w0KC8TTkoL oHC6A2VufCcFNnOUf2+q+RGCJAJJElYxa6E4GNlNap/b9K1NZkDbm6jQ3b+5O7FldiA2 GdsA== Tue, 15 Jan 2013 22:59:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.217.66.65 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 22:59:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.217.66.65 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 22:59:34 -0800 (PST) References: <20130116014213.E52A54291C@autox.team.net> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 22:59:34 -0800 From: Christian Marx To: Jim Gray Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 deck height Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I run 1.3mm Am 16.01.2013 02:38 schrieb "Jim Gray" : > Greetings FoT, > > I was curious as to what the group likes to run for deck height or piston > to > head clearance > > assuming forged rods and stock crank are used. > > I have heard everywhere from zero to .040 > > Thanks as always, > > jim g > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 05:40:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BCAD429C7 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 05:40:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242F4427BB for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 05:40:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.2]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A54561C0000FF for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:36:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.244.229.137] (mobile-198-228-224-128.mycingular.net [198.228.224.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 199B2E0000EC for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:36:38 -0500 (EST) References: <002d01cdf367$db91a9f0$92b4fdd0$@verizon.net> From: Christopher Bock Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:36:39 -0500 To: FoTTriumph x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358339798; bh=Wiod8Ytx3crT8/3S9MkAVs1t5wK1ggfS8UGeJMW7TUo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=dzKOhkJnsrSY6LRNVSRrWMNQZk7VZt/z4MLjayjEzQTrQ7qqw2qW+epUxE7mSxpwM A13nZ2D4g1mTzmdY0X4vOUhNGk8OlGo5sNV92O5mu2PGlJ3ZgZG0CR9uief3Qssw8c gUuCWdHo9BEdPVH3pW2Mn8/wGRDLEHoAj9KydUfc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290250f69ed51fac Subject: [Fot] Gaskets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici Here is a contact who has made done gaskets for folks. If I remember correctly they made a copper head gasket. Give them a shout and see what they can do Chris > > MERCER GASKET & SHIM INC > 110 BENIGNO BLVD > BELLMAWR, NJ 08031 > (800) 210-5000 > www.mercergasket.com > > Tom Evans > Tricars@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 06:34:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58669428B8 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 06:34:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s4.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s4.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E05D40329 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 06:32:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU154-W28 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s4.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 05:29:08 -0800 From: Charles WATSON To: FOT List Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:29:08 -0500 FILETIME=[76877540:01CDF3ED] Subject: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Well my GT6 has O/D and so it was supposed to have the 3.89 ratio diff. But I have found that was swapped out at some point to a 3.27. I want to go back to a 3.89 unit. Any good sources for one? And for road racing, should I go stock, weld it, or go with a LSD. I hear of a lot of failures with the Quaife units - so I hate to throw a grand at that product. Any advice is appreciated! Thanks, Chuck Watson _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 06:56:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A16429B1 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 06:56:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm37-vm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm37-vm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.216.254]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97719427DF for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 06:56:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.137.12.58] by nm37.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jan 2013 13:53:05 -0000 Received: from [98.137.0.26] by tm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jan 2013 13:53:05 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp119-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jan 2013 13:53:05 -0000 s=s1024; t=1358344385; bh=DuGq/jePnH72cwS+lPz5a2Xr5owyJKN8IztAXDmUims=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Subject:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=CEfkM/9d5ATfYSavFx7oSaGtPvwNGszb9PQTtbsN7CJZqojwAxxZTvWR7Hu83ZIYqM0Qpdw8GuM91UMGjtKxjcn+rDXUlkL0H3nEmIMINbbwPEAL+7QcjW2KGQSJiYQOewGlbwP0HOkrJkobAU+ccSv/KuxRKCFUn+YeLWxWlS4= IPNsN5RVWPciPrw5yjOZTTgwC0Sf8CA58WTy.p2Z5EImiuNFuB8w2DybkAHA ZvssFKfD17iH7PVXORF0fcHQbIzcjeJAtVhgwYgKUcZz8WeNj80pWzHB5hZh lwTR1oY3dRuGAJxDzE0cKETTkTmW4p7NwberKH4zB7xVHVMvmRLFhQlBIUx_ IQmx5PaRrz6dq8CGhwteFftiV47dd0NnBqjJ2vsUQVzo3DL6beTYMOiP0.Ys mjEPPSZ6mB0BrzbfdJGNyKHCC5WPSMCt63F7TxpXaMOb2YK6W6ccnKvF69N7 ul6O3nDbAOSU_E2nJzJWEVI3c0YqpImh06eZonjCFW39EpChm7FcNldL8OlA 9TJA.cXpXfBbD.MOx1VESPTJ77cXJZIhgEJjMxoB2vDpfgHUlhHgMjyzTir1 yaZ5lszed2v0- Received: from [10.10.5.29] (scottstarkweather@70.34.187.2 with xymcookie) by smtp119-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Jan 2013 13:53:05 +0000 UTC From: Scott Starkweather Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:53:04 -0500 To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear axles Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm in the process of preparing a 1500 Spit on a budget for vintage racing with VSCDA. Is there an economical, safe rear axle solution as an alternative to the more pricey axles out there? I'm wondering what my options are? Thanks, Scott _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 07:10:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7059C4297C for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:10:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EAE342902 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:10:07 -0700 (MST) a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:17 a=7KaaxAUCt-sA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=nL1LnQoeV3EA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=IuTvOZeXD2FxdA4XmLUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=lOx57hqu4DagfOAE:21 a=UNvlIWH7F8S9we3n:21 a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:117 Received: from [67.255.16.235] ([67.255.16.235:57466] helo=Shop) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id E0/7D-25872-2E3B6F05; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:06:27 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: "'Scott Starkweather'" , References: Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:06:38 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac3z8OyNcwf5N9mgR3mk774J+GNHdwAAZmHw Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire rear axles Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You have an option: cheap and deadly or expensive and safer.......still not an absolute! I can send pictures of what happens with the first option. Russ Moore Spitfire #49 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Scott Starkweather Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 8:53 AM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear axles I'm in the process of preparing a 1500 Spit on a budget for vintage racing with VSCDA. Is there an economical, safe rear axle solution as an alternative to the more pricey axles out there? I'm wondering what my options are? Thanks, Scott _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 07:23:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1666A429E1 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:23:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D1140511 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:23:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r0GEJN9j030777; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:19:23 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:19:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Scott Starkweather References: Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire rear axles Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, Russ was quicker on the draw than I this morning. And he's 100% correct. $1000 for axles is a heck of a lot cheaper than getting another car. And the car isn't the only thing that can get hurt when "things go wild". This is serious stuff. And it's "safety related". Don't cheap out here, please. regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 07:24:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD6BA429F1 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:24:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm37-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm37-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.131]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789F9427E7 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:24:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.57] by nm37.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jan 2013 14:20:31 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.106] by tm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jan 2013 14:20:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp123-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jan 2013 14:20:31 -0000 s=s1024; t=1358346031; bh=ePJOqiUTLhpB3axXyUN4g2QwdZd7VVgHtIYrAWJCVec=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=UAuXRJQB3uDcUKYY8mAx6ducxAjLyEhgeLdWEdRsmruj7FPQgD8kpZl91HdalS5uhUDLtrON9fPiELURLoL62fHh7G/tnfo1zcUBD3UBJX8OSvQznmsUJ6w2NZisX8fySrBZXdN8oHwKuTbHthra/HH1a1W70j6/eoa2Zxz+aN4= eQZjjL1Mq5nb53xTXUnhyvL0YH_nY2k9Gq02WHtqeCAYpXH266rmyy4j7oeE emelEl7C08dtfXBFR8DNXtWi0nEbo39MTdHWetBy7Vbnbogxy45YwN.7wv59 E4B4BkFR3BeCoeeGMw6nYjaKdpPzFV9IXIkWsHhvf9A.eQ8x.FWuQ787MLxS kg.9gnLudcMlgNpPHJ02wCR2NUcWw0OySBqsJQmRXb0cVrhcVpZkd.WlPwfh WS_jmqnL5NCISwaqBa0CMCItg_m2SIWdV3JM7HzkQFCjdOCwWWQteqPhjhkV EdxDr1rtnMV7BR6VfanRdOWaMds6UZzhTaPXhp9_lI3g7jLnG1w8bAvnjZ9x 8ZUgo46Mk9FhgMfJAxpMCERJmyaS4FdsRrniiuU7xsFXiPIAd152Am2sz5jE eJCKi9hD7XIDW1dhINHYTr.kBwg4hvWgaZubWmRnGGa_zLhdeNyAx1eejaNI COVVgB3KJWfoL2dNZkEM- Received: from [10.232.175.174] (jaxonracing@174.252.51.9 with xymcookie) by smtp123-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Jan 2013 14:20:31 +0000 UTC References: <002a01cdf3f2$b3c04590$1b40d0b0$@rr.com> From: Jaxon Racing Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:20:28 -0500 To: Spitfire Racing Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire rear axles Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Agreed. Too much risk to consider cheap as an option. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 16, 2013, at 9:06 AM, "Spitfire Racing" wrote: > You have an option: cheap and deadly or expensive and safer.......still not > an absolute! > I can send pictures of what happens with the first option. > > Russ Moore > Spitfire #49 > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Scott Starkweather > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 8:53 AM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear axles > > I'm in the process of preparing a 1500 Spit on a budget for vintage racing > with VSCDA. Is there an economical, safe rear axle solution as an > alternative to the more pricey axles out there? I'm wondering what my > options are? > > Thanks, > Scott > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaxonracing@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 07:31:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27451429EA for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:31:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from tr.ccfot.com (wsip-98-174-80-205.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B102428F4 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:31:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA4EA4C091; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:27:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from tr.ccfot.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tr.ccfot.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id exde+ilsUi3j; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:27:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from HENRYPRECISION (wsip-98-174-80-202.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.202]) (Authenticated sender: yellow04@tr4racer.com) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 62563A4C084; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:27:39 -0500 (EST) From: To: "Scott Starkweather" , References: Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:27:40 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire rear axles Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Starkweather" Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear axles > Is there an economical, safe rear axle solution as an alternative to the > more pricey axles out there? No. > I'm wondering what my options are? Go slow on street tires and hope for the best, or listen to the guys who know firsthand and buy a set of race axles. I think we have guys here that have broken some race prepped axles, so do your homework. Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 07:39:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2B0429E2 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:39:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994ED42937 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:39:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id odWD1k0050cQ2SLA1ebozh; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:35:48 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id oebn1k00P2vctGa8WeboS3; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:35:48 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: , "Scott Starkweather" , References: Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 06:35:47 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1358346948; bh=iqrpLcWBLMJF2OGj030bJH+cmi/J6q0ztgMlSJyDmj0=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RJ8V5lv8l6TKsPjNwY0vyZhbohM5qZJUhFIXh988uwDeSfAzi0J1kEJcrL9uQADzF XKpZg7MjpcT6ybTiL81N6UTpFgFKYbOIpZ5+kQGzFLUsanRhyil8wZj41eRrmwIEyp pyNa+WVu7eOdxABe8V9vGbTi9FK/pNcjQ4aQdgs+cBd2YgBkz5LkLnRBkpXlF0kiJv +KjzbN8IrgPBQllq3TFvDvUZH/A1dn6k0wz/oCcuMgCDtuCiq/9x1IsYJa2dPZUgCs msGGSQnRrp19DAlFZDmTOe/0+a5yic0V0cGfUdqudYqrD58uGmOm6nXBUtEihfMsr3 wiYuKijCg5Juw== Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire rear axles Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The axles that I got from Joe Siam in SoCal... have been trouble free 2003-2011..they are 1 piece...no keyway..Joe made them from Nissan stuff..Had to turn the yoke for clearance..Don't try to save money on Spitfire axles..If you cannot buy high quality...wait until you can. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Scott Starkweather" ; Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 6:27 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire rear axles > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Starkweather" > Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear axles > > >> Is there an economical, safe rear axle solution as an alternative to the >> more pricey axles out there? > > No. > >> I'm wondering what my options are? > > Go slow on street tires and hope for the best, or listen to the guys who > know firsthand and buy a set of race axles. I think we have guys here that > have broken some race prepped axles, so do your homework. > > Henry > yellow04@tr4racer.com _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 07:42:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9002B429EF for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:42:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A40242937 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:42:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ochj1k0060QkzPwA3eekTK; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:38:44 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id oeej1k0072vctGa8Neejm4; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:38:43 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "Robert M. Lang" , "Scott Starkweather" References: Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 06:38:43 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1358347124; bh=+O4ilOE2NwazoGLVzoqROyLzEE8QvMG9Ak5OQiooJAo=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=frUWil1m0ZQwylgxOAUxtlOwm8Fz033TOx00wsO1dW+TPCMY+eGEijNM/IyQHqDIW zBB1GxnhntAL/Bi1VHw9p1U4KWE1PP97uE/88PibJ1Q2/+Ls3tuA8nx7OM0TgomBDK RlWiiVuEfKysPApkjFA3HNbMf9lL4IguSxLJL0zs30gVL/KDh4DY34SKHuTnrEjur3 TrcIIl4EQGV4CBH/H/KC8CXZl1YiS2/FuGSaPx9iF5LsUSjFbQh4YExLQoIPQJV61i 4iuwIZae96RPUYZEpJ4JSCc1CA97zZLlxAIaa9hnxxGhIlnWX4FY/i4f9mAgz7QrlD NFAoPILlHgKeQ== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire rear axles Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Things go 'Wild' is right...when a Spifire axle goes...the driver is no longer in control...It happened to me with stock axles in the esses at Infineon about 9 years ago. RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert M. Lang" To: "Scott Starkweather" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 6:19 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire rear axles > Hi, > > Russ was quicker on the draw than I this morning. And he's 100% correct. > > $1000 for axles is a heck of a lot cheaper than getting another car. And > the car isn't the only thing that can get hurt when "things go wild". > > This is serious stuff. And it's "safety related". Don't cheap out here, > please. > > regards, > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 07:45:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80547429AB for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:45:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm26-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm26-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.160]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB4A42981 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:45:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.153] by nm26.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jan 2013 14:41:24 -0000 Received: from [98.139.173.187] by tm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jan 2013 14:41:24 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp114-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jan 2013 14:41:24 -0000 s=s1024; t=1358347284; bh=co0JltvKZTYHExliydlDDYPMzEdzMiVwJBxL2h8Wjz8=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=VazHHHHx0nRbmdbcq9pWWQzrJnh7vX6rrbKzQFQzRPT/0CdPVo+bhsHNItOzZbvNOG2CPhrLIF3Q8GigVxGQbzzdJy7SST5c7ZD3tgdIJ3LMJRvDly2smb5+sAXeEpQBex/dXST1+YjHg4VKUWtrIJNRcRbEcebhzywhceuntto= k44Do22Fi_oBHcwz2w5y0Aqi4sh1JE6VomnDQq.pb0_Xj80EmZDJfu8Ti5qm eufT45FUlmlGf55_b7HH8YQqeMxObm0caC18kaDedJhpIrIshZgHh82v0SHS qke4V7tHUISre73DTuj717UodKj7UBwQmyDvNpEr4H_FysU0mhqmD2xJ9xxa CDvfr.GcmylFQLC6cWUVfaZocqNeaDw4xnriC6XBvviyCTb5iY26Cowk07s4 6i1F_0turqiLsLEJAy2w1bnfa.NutYR95MeWb8p0sYSYNl8HZJ3DTlQObOdQ 9YGI4CJR_108BLKK6x02bPRLAkffL.StH4uEHE7PbppeXaK5ljRJz2ak_gM8 HWOoVOwnXMbaxrvvI.pVrswjC79Ng32ja_u.UCEKaKRVrLKxlAUMKdx2gx_c 3c.pXD8xvuHRL Received: from [10.10.5.29] (scottstarkweather@70.34.187.2 with xymcookie) by smtp114-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Jan 2013 06:41:24 -0800 PST References: From: Scott Starkweather Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:41:23 -0500 To: "" Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire rear axles Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Message loud and clear! I absolutely agree that safety comes first. I'll be getting my axles ordered soon. Thanks everyone, Sent from my iPhone On Jan 16, 2013, at 9:27 AM, wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Starkweather" > Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear axles > > >> Is there an economical, safe rear axle solution as an alternative to the >> more pricey axles out there? > > No. > >> I'm wondering what my options are? > > Go slow on street tires and hope for the best, or listen to the guys who > know firsthand and buy a set of race axles. I think we have guys here that > have broken some race prepped axles, so do your homework. > > Henry > yellow04@tr4racer.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 08:26:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554BA429D6 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:26:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03CC34297C for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:26:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.74]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E9B00380002F9; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:22:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msa001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msa001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.65]) by mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id B6B02E000089; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:22:46 -0500 (EST) References: To: clw2000@msn.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com (64.12.183.102) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:22:46 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:22:46 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358349766; bh=F+EZSejw/0adqZD1m4lxPG7GwwKqiBHtMXR3uWf2FhQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=whp69f6lTQoreU1RYqeY7tfTwIopldtd+waDH5tH9drnUGriMjL8Mc4f3NbZB811G tbjQTejD13/eOKMrB4D1kh8MlOzQk8X4Nwk9IGSOPl8WkkH09/4IBm/4Jd0s2L/PSW Iq8npzXb6i4UwwbqROkoAaZzTvF8KTMS8etfJa94= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294a50f6c5c643e7 Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net i've never heard of a failure with a quaife. we installed ours 20 years ago and have never opened it up again. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Charles WATSON To: FOT List Sent: Wed, Jan 16, 2013 7:31 am Subject: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Well my GT6 has O/D and so it was supposed to have the 3.89 ratio diff. But I have found that was swapped out at some point to a 3.27. I want to go back to a 3.89 unit. Any good sources for one? And for road racing, should I go stock, weld it, or go with a LSD. I hear of a lot of failures with the Quaife units - so I hate to throw a grand at that product. Any advice is appreciated! Thanks, Chuck Watson _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 08:38:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A0D429C9 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:38:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4811B428F2 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:36:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b%11]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:32:24 -0600 From: "Barr, Scott" To: 'Charles WATSON' , FOT List Thread-Topic: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Thread-Index: AQHN8+3Cl2NRjZ6+9UuTtf6UHlufEZhMFOZA Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:32:23 +0000 References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have been using a Quaife in my Spitfire for the last 10 years. I have no complaints other than the fact that, once you lift the right rear tire, you've got an open diff. Otherwise, so far so good. I'll be experimenting with a Detroit Locker this year, which I hear is going to require a slight modification of driving style. Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Charles WATSON Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 7:29 AM To: FOT List Subject: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Well my GT6 has O/D and so it was supposed to have the 3.89 ratio diff. But I have found that was swapped out at some point to a 3.27. I want to go back to a 3.89 unit. Any good sources for one? And for road racing, should I go stock, weld it, or go with a LSD. I hear of a lot of failures with the Quaife units - so I hate to throw a grand at that product. Any advice is appreciated! Thanks, Chuck Watson _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 08:45:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413F342988 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:45:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s27.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s27.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5707D42934 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:45:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT141-W26 ([65.55.90.72]) by snt0-omc2-s27.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:41:30 -0800 From: Tony and Annie Garmey To: , , Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:41:30 -0800 References: , <8CFC21477D32852-1260-3AE7E@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com> FILETIME=[F4810A80:01CDF3FF] Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Although I have a quaife in the K car, I prefer a Clutch type LSD simply because there tune-able. I have made tools to be able to check the 'breakaway" of the clutch plates. Peyote and the Devin use Tran x brand diffs with a breakaway of 35-40lbs. My MGB's run at 50-55lbs and we set the Can Am car up (Hewland) with a 20-25 lbs. By breakaway, I mean the amount of force it takes to turn one wheel. Every driver and car set up is different and its takes some test time to find a happy spot. The only "failure" of a quaife "torson" diff I've found is the spring washers breaking and maybe that was because I increased the pre loaded of the shim pack looking for something a little extra :) . i also recommend redline heavy weight shock proof gear oil. CheersTony > To: clw2000@msn.com; fot@autox.team.net > From: n197tr4@cs.com > Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:22:46 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD > > i've never heard of a failure with a quaife. > > we installed ours 20 years ago and have never opened it up again. > > > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles WATSON > To: FOT List > Sent: Wed, Jan 16, 2013 7:31 am > Subject: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD > > > Well my GT6 has O/D and so it was supposed to have the 3.89 ratio diff. But > I > have found that was swapped out at some point to a 3.27. I want to go back > to > a 3.89 unit. Any good sources for one? And for road racing, should I go > stock, weld it, or go with a LSD. I hear of a lot of failures with the > Quaife > units - so I hate to throw a grand at that product. Any advice is > appreciated! > > Thanks, > > Chuck Watson > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 08:50:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA708429EA for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:50:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s29.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s29.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.104]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C80B428B8 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:50:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT141-W37 ([65.55.90.73]) by snt0-omc2-s29.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:46:55 -0800 From: Tony and Annie Garmey To: , , Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:46:55 -0800 References: , , <8CFC21477D32852-1260-3AE7E@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com>, FILETIME=[B60AA260:01CDF400] Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I would also like to add, that you can replace the clutch plates and ramps in the tran x diffs. The Tran x Brand has been sold to quaife and the guys who used to make Tran x, are making there own version...which is only available through Darrel at racetorations in the uk. I've not seen or used the new diffs ...as of yet. > From: horizonracing@msn.com > To: n197tr4@cs.com; clw2000@msn.com; fot@autox.team.net > Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:41:30 -0800 > Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD > > Although I have a quaife in the K car, I prefer a Clutch type LSD simply > because there tune-able. I have made tools to be able to check the 'breakaway" > of the clutch plates. Peyote and the Devin use Tran x brand diffs with a > breakaway of 35-40lbs. My MGB's run at 50-55lbs and we set the Can Am car up > (Hewland) with a 20-25 lbs. By breakaway, I mean the amount of force it takes > to turn one wheel. Every driver and car set up is different and its takes some > test time to find a happy spot. The only "failure" of a quaife "torson" diff > I've found is the spring washers breaking and maybe that was because I > increased the pre loaded of the shim pack looking for something a little extra > :) . i also recommend redline heavy weight shock proof gear oil. > CheersTony > > To: clw2000@msn.com; fot@autox.team.net > > From: n197tr4@cs.com > > Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:22:46 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD > > > > i've never heard of a failure with a quaife. > > > > we installed ours 20 years ago and have never opened it up again. > > > > > > > > > > > > Joe Alexander > > A. R. E. > > 645 1st Street > > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > > 319.464.4711 (cell) > > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Charles WATSON > > To: FOT List > > Sent: Wed, Jan 16, 2013 7:31 am > > Subject: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD > > > > > > Well my GT6 has O/D and so it was supposed to have the 3.89 ratio diff. > But > > I > > have found that was swapped out at some point to a 3.27. I want to go back > > to > > a 3.89 unit. Any good sources for one? And for road racing, should I go > > stock, weld it, or go with a LSD. I hear of a lot of failures with the > > Quaife > > units - so I hate to throw a grand at that product. Any advice is > > appreciated! > > > > Thanks, > > > > Chuck Watson > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 08:55:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0720429D7 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:55:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5088742934 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:55:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.8]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 45DEE38000086; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:52:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dnd005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dnd005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.182.209]) by mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id EC410E00008E; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:52:10 -0500 (EST) References: , <8CFC21477D32852-1260-3AE7E@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com> To: horizonracing@msn.com, n197tr4@cs.com, clw2000@msn.com, fot@autox.team.net From: gt6steve@aol.com Received: from 24.120.231.10 by webmail-m183.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.140) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:52:09 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:52:10 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358351531; bh=kzF4EPwqp+TfbiQPUk3zX+fTs0AwjbiaQk+FTgpmeTw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dnh8+DDu9tLAMhFPNJx5QnnYtsG4+6VHFi7HybaYGeaJoXZVGNvwpAWPwW5Khh3n0 FFp5eJYXXVN7SvGDiDJcehtf2NWSLYoZjnl4/dGmCKVvpDtiPosN3B4ikyyAAn4on0 3wY4NDnXmdM2WsPkNSuqdMqfgVD2NrSTwUd+jM+Y= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290850f6ccaa411e Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If you intend to keep the Roto's for a while I'd be cautious applying any of the aggressive differential options. My GT6 had a quaife for many years because of the opinion offered above. I noticed a significant improvement in traction out of the hairpin at Phoenix Raceway the first time I used it. It's true that you can't lift a tire though. When I went to the Datsun hubs and halfshafts I progressed through Detroit Lockers and welded diffs and sold the quaife as surplus. I don't know of any clutch diffs for our cars. And don't even fantasize about gaining any advantage from that stupid "Phantom Grip"! Steve -----Original Message----- From: Tony and Annie Garmey To: n197tr4 ; clw2000 ; fot Sent: Wed, Jan 16, 2013 7:41 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Although I have a quaife in the K car, I prefer a Clutch type LSD simply ecause there tune-able. I have made tools to be able to check the 'breakaway" f the clutch plates. Peyote and the Devin use Tran x brand diffs with a reakaway of 35-40lbs. My MGB's run at 50-55lbs and we set the Can Am car up Hewland) with a 20-25 lbs. By breakaway, I mean the amount of force it takes o turn one wheel. Every driver and car set up is different and its takes some est time to find a happy spot. The only "failure" of a quaife "torson" diff 've found is the spring washers breaking and maybe that was because I ncreased the pre loaded of the shim pack looking for something a little extra ) . i also recommend redline heavy weight shock proof gear oil. heersTony > To: clw2000@msn.com; fot@autox.team.net From: n197tr4@cs.com Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:22:46 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD i've never heard of a failure with a quaife. we installed ours 20 years ago and have never opened it up again. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Charles WATSON To: FOT List Sent: Wed, Jan 16, 2013 7:31 am Subject: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Well my GT6 has O/D and so it was supposed to have the 3.89 ratio diff. ut I have found that was swapped out at some point to a 3.27. I want to go back to a 3.89 unit. Any good sources for one? And for road racing, should I go stock, weld it, or go with a LSD. I hear of a lot of failures with the Quaife units - so I hate to throw a grand at that product. Any advice is appreciated! Thanks, Chuck Watson _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 08:56:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42F342A00 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:56:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02BE429B1 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:56:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 606CD1C00020D; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:52:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msa001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msa001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.65]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1C961E00008F; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:52:29 -0500 (EST) References: <82BFCF3631841845BADD37BD9FE7EA730E818F90@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> To: sbarr@McCarty-Law.com, clw2000@msn.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com (64.12.183.102) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:52:28 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:52:29 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358351549; bh=FUPWqOonzT342xpn5r4Y54dhdndVEU00JfqdigXEcCA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=adNoLGdt3AnOetS2XCVWD4lOqPNQ0MdWA9Bsm4mh8EgivWYuzhn+bi8/fzSQdiLek JfiOSbD/IUkqAOL0cTawsurbGnlxRlEkF6ydhxQ1Od7x9FMNQKtNLn/EzO02D20X56 NtglPZ4o1wDK8SIXKN11WcRCnyFamlS1pi1oRKL0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb50f6ccbd539e Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Lifting Wheel: It's not clear to us what we did with the suspension, but the wheel does not lift and spin on our TR4. It did in the first few years. We do have a slightly wider track when we added spacers. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Barr, Scott To: 'Charles WATSON' ; FOT List Sent: Wed, Jan 16, 2013 9:35 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD I have been using a Quaife in my Spitfire for the last 10 years. I have no complaints other than the fact that, once you lift the right rear tire, you've got an open diff. Otherwise, so far so good. I'll be experimenting with a Detroit Locker this year, which I hear is going to require a slight modification of driving style. Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Charles WATSON Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 7:29 AM To: FOT List Subject: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Well my GT6 has O/D and so it was supposed to have the 3.89 ratio diff. But I have found that was swapped out at some point to a 3.27. I want to go back to a 3.89 unit. Any good sources for one? And for road racing, should I go stock, weld it, or go with a LSD. I hear of a lot of failures with the Quaife units - so I hate to throw a grand at that product. Any advice is appreciated! Thanks, Chuck Watson _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 09:46:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B435D4293F for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:46:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B854C403B9 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:45:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.22.217]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MGQ00LP791U9340@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:41:56 -0600 (CST) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Spitfire Racing" , "'Scott Starkweather'" , References: <002a01cdf3f2$b3c04590$1b40d0b0$@rr.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:41:55 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire rear axles Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I agree with Russ. Although I drive a TR6, it had notoriously weak rear hubs. The best $800 or so that I ever spent was on Good's rear hubs. Not to mention Uncle Jack's front spindles. My $0.02 worth. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spitfire Racing" To: "'Scott Starkweather'" ; Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire rear axles > You have an option: cheap and deadly or expensive and safer.......still > not > an absolute! > I can send pictures of what happens with the first option. > > Russ Moore > Spitfire #49 > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Scott Starkweather > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 8:53 AM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear axles > > I'm in the process of preparing a 1500 Spit on a budget for vintage racing > with VSCDA. Is there an economical, safe rear axle solution as an > alternative to the more pricey axles out there? I'm wondering what my > options are? > > Thanks, > Scott > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 09:49:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D5D428F4 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:49:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F1640E1D for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:49:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.194]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id DE0621C00029A for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:45:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.244.229.137] (mobile-198-228-224-128.mycingular.net [198.228.224.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 1C869E00009D for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:45:59 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Bock Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:46:01 -0500 To: FoTTriumph x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358354759; bh=NBFjHm8Me72B6S+JkQzPWtcpJe6OXets7WCKGNqBz9A=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=On3jtM0U9Zjaj0QjCuRE7Z/Wj5fExue9LI5B5c5oyCk4LvWuHO5iXZC5tFxw0xkd0 2jHjEEYmHiPkGgO32WRRhoUNO+79W10aXg4xJX4xdSryGXOnH7qd/BLROX6TSjZCjA kwudJijeuwHsqFsi2estH2MhSUsQmZAGhAIaH0e4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c250f6d9473dcd Subject: [Fot] Gaskets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici, Here is a contact who has made some gaskets for our British cars. I believe he has made, among other things, copper head gaskets MERCER GASKET & SHIM INC 110 BENIGNO BLVD BELLMAWR, NJ 08031 (800) 210-5000 www.mercergasket.com Tom Evans tricars@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 09:55:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB64429C9 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:55:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D479E4293F for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:53:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.99.26] (c-76-99-29-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [76.99.29.73]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MGQ008GM9F6IDA0@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:49:56 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-01-16_05:2013-01-16,2013-01-16,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1301160138 From: Scott Janzen Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:49:53 -0500 References: To: Charles WATSON Cc: FOT List Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm with Steve - my GT6 has a welded 3.89 in it. There was one in the car when I got it, who knows how old, just destructed this summer after eight years of racing (and I coasted into pit lane with the rear end sounding like a can of bolts). I now have another 3.89 in the car, and a spare one welded up. They're cheap and reliable. They do require a certain driving style for this nose-heavy car - brake mostly before you are in the turn and get on the gas early to aim the car. Cars with welded rears are a pain to roll around the paddock or garage, however! On Jan 16, 2013, at 8:29 AM, Charles WATSON wrote: Well my GT6 has O/D and so it was supposed to have the 3.89 ratio diff. But I have found that was swapped out at some point to a 3.27. I want to go back to a 3.89 unit. Any good sources for one? And for road racing, should I go stock, weld it, or go with a LSD. I hear of a lot of failures with the Quaife units - so I hate to throw a grand at that product. Any advice is appreciated! Thanks, Chuck Watson _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 10:29:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C176B429CD for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:29:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f174.google.com (mail-ea0-f174.google.com [209.85.215.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0EB4283D for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:29:27 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ea0-f174.google.com with SMTP id 1so612357eaa.5 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:25:46 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=TcAAR4P0JGJ1Kjmbaqj9A8Ntvs7mjTbHvsiovtrSnXY=; b=wwzKYaNpoUMhbDGcAPO0//ius7zWELMRhlpNoq/+PRzJlSpDcCVr+HgBrSHxaZZ6Gv kwvnSU6QMb6bHs4YqbUXVQ9x4FH+Nql8+aX/4MlbMdb2FZJC5COHnwPEcR9YMDM3Y9Ph 1ozgVXDflwJtn+OY9YAGOYDrVIXD38BzQHGPArFKhOTxpx7sZbJtMyKUOJYPgyutFSmQ +soItqkRVAkZy6P49Gn4mUAZiW0erov89UHGlK03XAzD3aa00eAbngXkRd3QQnb+CDa1 /efMJhwKAa9N5EtSKAVA/DM/H9HamuC/GobCcbb/5RqTUIXn9CBSoSxvvdFM08akv4Ke kFlA== e42mr4338288eep.32.1358357146183; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:25:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home ([2.171.38.166]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q44sm30281474eep.5.2013.01.16.09.25.44 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:25:45 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: "'FOT List'" References: <82BFCF3631841845BADD37BD9FE7EA730E818F90@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:25:41 +0100 Thread-Index: AQHN8+3Cl2NRjZ6+9UuTtf6UHlufEZhMFOZAgAAe6+A= Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I had used a welded diff over the years with great success and tried last year a new Bastuck LSD diff. The Bastuck design has a lock from 50-98 percent depending how much throttle you give. More throttle = more lock. It has no ramps only clutch shims and no preload. (it has ramps but in a different way) It feels like a welded diff but you can drive the car around sharp corners like with an open diff. Very smooth unit. Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 11:08:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DEAC429D5 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:08:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f172.google.com (mail-ie0-f172.google.com [209.85.223.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEBD4427A8 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:08:25 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f172.google.com with SMTP id c13so3036089ieb.17 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:04:43 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:reply-to:x-priority:sensitivity :importance:subject:to:from:date:content-type:mime-version :x-gm-message-state; bh=YjytEWpkt0d447bwLZlubqEiY/5YzGQ/PwYzGrW76A8=; b=gngV33CuORYSCMcfnRQ2rVgqED8V9ItWmDRqgdY8Osfh2raEmozp3binLv7zOhgRjt 3b82KB98mchBYEYh/QKOR3zb0LRrtPmUQruYpYBL+9/LKmMh4x9DMWQ3p9DKp0VbHbEh ELMTwUTPcV9KjeXJpJb/GBp+9RZKYSOX8qMUAWVMPQMMqx6SsHqjawgHW++HBIJVyLv0 XF+hZsFfGbx8EMv9Vk6CEgSDBV3tXQxlT6GDfbiGZH+ORRNNuUN4zOyUlSxlPE3yRrmV 71LuR+Apa5TMfsShaDK0SqacF59bzCdpQEpvWAtHiHD/UvdrewPHUxeHW7QyuriIgWDZ 7zAw== wm2mr5960599igb.0.1358359483791; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:04:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.29.196.189 (bda-74-82-80-182.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id uj6sm5329206igb.4.2013.01.16.10.04.42 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:04:42 -0800 (PST) Sensitivity: Normal To: "Charles WATSON" ,fot-bounces@autox.team.net,"FOT List" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:04:40 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hey Chuck, lots of interesting feedback here. If I were in your position, I'd buy a couple good used 3.89's. (From a reliable used Triumph parts guy, like TSI or similar trusted source) Speaking from experience and paying specific attention to what Steve said. (He went through slow progression of set-ups that actually get harder and harder on the drive train with each developement) Like all of us GT6 guys, you will be embarking on a long path of finding drivetrain solidity that fits your driving style. In this process, you are most likely going to destroy a few key components. (Every one of us has). Perhaps, for the process of learning how to drive this car at hi speed and getting it initially sorted. For your first season, you may be very wise in the pocketbook, to start a regular old (good) stock diff. I think that (specifically for the gt6) you can take the Quaife off the table. In the end, I agree with Scott and Steve; the welded set up is the advanced choice. BUT, its effectiveness leaves no room for errors in the transition between gears. Perfect rev matching is required and lots of seat time prior to a "trick" diff. may serve you well. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing ------Original Message------ From: Charles WATSON To: FOT List Subject: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Sent: Jan 16, 2013 7:29 AM Well my GT6 has O/D and so it was supposed to have the 3.89 ratio diff. But I have found that was swapped out at some point to a 3.27. I want to go back to a 3.89 unit. Any good sources for one? And for road racing, should I go stock, weld it, or go with a LSD. I hear of a lot of failures with the Quaife units - so I hate to throw a grand at that product. Any advice is appreciated! Thanks, Chuck Watson _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 11:29:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A7F1429AB for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:29:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from tr.ccfot.com (wsip-98-174-80-205.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DECE842593 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:28:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D2BA4C091; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:25:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from tr.ccfot.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tr.ccfot.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ga0axnMRPEAr; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:24:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from HENRYPRECISION (wsip-98-174-80-202.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.202]) (Authenticated sender: yellow04@tr4racer.com) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id BA57EA4C084; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:24:59 -0500 (EST) From: To: "MadMarx" , "'FOT List'" References: <82BFCF3631841845BADD37BD9FE7EA730E818F90@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <002101cdf40e$84a09b90$8de1d2b0$@com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:25:00 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Bastuck LSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Does anybody have any more information on these units? Will they hold up to the rigors of TR racing? http://www.bastuck.de/shop/index.php?cat=10000&hg=11100 The Bastic website shows the unit sells for 666 euro, or under US$900. They should not change the VAT when shipping to outside the EU. I emailed them about shipping cost to the USA. Sounds very affordable. Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "MadMarx" Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD >I had used a welded diff over the years with great success and tried last > year a new Bastuck LSD diff. > The Bastuck design has a lock from 50-98 percent depending how much > throttle > you give. > More throttle = more lock. > It has no ramps only clutch shims and no preload. (it has ramps but in a > different way) > It feels like a welded diff but you can drive the car around sharp corners > like with an open diff. > Very smooth unit. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 11:53:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B0684282A for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:53:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17DF42582 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:52:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.74]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4A2C21C000257; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:49:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msa001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msa001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.65]) by mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0E5C6E000093; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:49:01 -0500 (EST) References: <1358361586.84929.YahooMailNeo@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: my71spit13@yahoo.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com (64.12.183.102) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:48:57 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:48:57 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358362141; bh=rzQ+MrMhgOvRXVXiwiaan1g7bwjx/pgLCOt1dJuNtDw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=n2ipgcLUConcjgsy1DSWm4EDo/VHGO9IkG3FjsVtsaPAN45AMh6ebmiyJwOmbX9Cn exlQWibV+6Xu+vi6nyZSBUhmFjhciU6L1O9vKJyXIEN8UlUeh+ogoqgRVIKZTj1sx9 yWI3Jm3yEdvZLRrDpf8PwvocCtCaKzQxYseAYGBs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294a50f6f61d5954 Subject: Re: [Fot] Stickers, grill badge, digest email Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Shawn, good questions. I have stickers....Joe Curry sent me the balance of his stock. If anyone else wants one, contact me off list. These are the ones that are about 3 x 3. I can bring you a couple Saturday. Christopher Bock has grill badges and flags.....he will likely respond. Some one will likely help you get to digest version, like Mark Bradakis. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Shawn Frank To: gasket.works ; Joe Alexander Sent: Wed, Jan 16, 2013 12:39 pm Subject: Stickers, grill badge, digest email Are there grill badges available for FoT? How about stickers? If so, how much? Where do I find them to see what they look like? Available online? Is there any way to change my email preferences from my current setting to a digest style email? Who do I ask about that? Thank you, Shawn Frank _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 11:54:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA224284E for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:54:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6786440329 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:54:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.99.26] (c-76-99-29-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [76.99.29.73]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MGQ004IKF0LLJ60@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:50:47 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-01-16_06:2013-01-16,2013-01-16,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=4 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1301160175 From: Scott Janzen Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:50:44 -0500 References: <20130116180901.346C942928@autox.team.net> To: jason@multivintage.com Cc: FOT List Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Jason raises some excellent points on weak links in the system - my drivetrain is virtually non-stock, with a TR4-6 transmission (GT6 ones last a couple of weekends if you are lucky), a modified driveshaft, the welded rear, halfshafts with spicer u-joints inside and outside, and modified uprights with larger bearings and Corvair stub axles. With the exception of the transmission, this is the way the car came to me, as it was raced in SCCA club racing back in the day. On Jan 16, 2013, at 1:04 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: Hey Chuck, lots of interesting feedback here. If I were in your position, I'd buy a couple good used 3.89's. (From a reliable used Triumph parts guy, like TSI or similar trusted source) Speaking from experience and paying specific attention to what Steve said. (He went through slow progression of set-ups that actually get harder and harder on the drive train with each developement) Like all of us GT6 guys, you will be embarking on a long path of finding drivetrain solidity that fits your driving style. In this process, you are most likely going to destroy a few key components. (Every one of us has). Perhaps, for the process of learning how to drive this car at hi speed and getting it initially sorted. For your first season, you may be very wise in the pocketbook, to start a regular old (good) stock diff. I think that (specifically for the gt6) you can take the Quaife off the table. In the end, I agree with Scott and Steve; the welded set up is the advanced choice. BUT, its effectiveness leaves no room for errors in the transition between gears. Perfect rev matching is required and lots of seat time prior to a "trick" diff. may serve you well. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing ------Original Message------ From: Charles WATSON To: FOT List Subject: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Sent: Jan 16, 2013 7:29 AM Well my GT6 has O/D and so it was supposed to have the 3.89 ratio diff. But I have found that was swapped out at some point to a 3.27. I want to go back to a 3.89 unit. Any good sources for one? And for road racing, should I go stock, weld it, or go with a LSD. I hear of a lot of failures with the Quaife units - so I hate to throw a grand at that product. Any advice is appreciated! Thanks, Chuck Watson _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 12:20:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744A6429B6 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:20:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.159]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C50400A4 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:17:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from Charly (unknown [97.126.77.63]) (Authenticated sender: charly@mitchelplumbing.com) by smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 599A55D80A9; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:13:23 -0600 (CST) From: "Charly Mitchel" To: , "MadMarx" , "'FOT List'" References: <82BFCF3631841845BADD37BD9FE7EA730E818F90@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com><002101cdf40e$84a09b90$8de1d2b0$@com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:13:18 -0800 Subject: Re: [Fot] Bastuck LSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Isn't that the Tran-x unit? Charly Mitchel ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "MadMarx" ; "'FOT List'" Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 10:25 AM Subject: [Fot] Bastuck LSD > Does anybody have any more information on these units? Will they hold up > to the rigors of TR racing? > > http://www.bastuck.de/shop/index.php?cat=10000&hg=11100 > > The Bastic website shows the unit sells for 666 euro, or under US$900. > They should not change the VAT when shipping to outside the EU. I emailed > them about shipping cost to the USA. > > Sounds very affordable. > > Henry > yellow04@tr4racer.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MadMarx" > Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD > > >>I had used a welded diff over the years with great success and tried last >> year a new Bastuck LSD diff. >> The Bastuck design has a lock from 50-98 percent depending how much >> throttle >> you give. >> More throttle = more lock. >> It has no ramps only clutch shims and no preload. (it has ramps but in a >> different way) >> It feels like a welded diff but you can drive the car around sharp >> corners >> like with an open diff. >> Very smooth unit. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 12:27:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C4D429AD for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:27:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.wave1.net (unknown [74.219.105.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD19842880 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:27:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from [74.219.99.56] by mail.wave1.net (ArGoSoft Mail Server .NET v.1.0.8.3) with ESMTP (EHLO mtmPC); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:34:20 -0500 From: "Mike Moore" To: "'Joe Alexander'" , , References: <1358361586.84929.YahooMailNeo@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8CFC23146A582E2-1260-3CF96@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:23:33 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac30G8f6ce3Wvis+SlGTgNUXc4du3QAAyHoQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Stickers, grill badge, digest email Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I would be interested in these items also. Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Alexander Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 1:49 PM To: my71spit13@yahoo.com; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Stickers, grill badge, digest email Shawn, good questions. I have stickers....Joe Curry sent me the balance of his stock. If anyone else wants one, contact me off list. These are the ones that are about 3 x 3. I can bring you a couple Saturday. Christopher Bock has grill badges and flags.....he will likely respond. Some one will likely help you get to digest version, like Mark Bradakis. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Shawn Frank To: gasket.works ; Joe Alexander Sent: Wed, Jan 16, 2013 12:39 pm Subject: Stickers, grill badge, digest email Are there grill badges available for FoT? How about stickers? If so, how much? Where do I find them to see what they look like? Available online? Is there any way to change my email preferences from my current setting to a digest style email? Who do I ask about that? Thank you, Shawn Frank _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore@wave1.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mharc@autox.team.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 12:52:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0EC5427E0 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:52:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A2C40E19 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:52:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C887A137E for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:50:16 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:50:15 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <1358361586.84929.YahooMailNeo@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8CFC23146A582E2-1260-3CF96@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Stickers, grill badge, digest email Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Digest? Click on your 'Unsubscribe/Manage' link below. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 12:59:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC300429D3 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:59:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D7640E4B for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:59:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.197]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id D003F380000AF; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:55:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.244.229.137] (mobile-198-228-224-128.mycingular.net [198.228.224.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 102A0E00008B; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:55:20 -0500 (EST) References: <1358361586.84929.YahooMailNeo@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8CFC23146A582E2-1260-3CF96@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com> From: Christopher Bock Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:55:19 -0500 To: Joe Alexander x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358366120; bh=7kQO3kerbCKHxyVQf80807h86HyuOCkm7NJA9aW9pBM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=eZ+jbWvcl2/5riGaztJTVC5nqkHrrY02FmiEy57CmpqOmKnlJCyPLDO+lNe2jnm1m Tm1rIbKlPm4axMsbGjUleNlRgS/4yVdjz6G+SZeB4gewEh86ovovt2K6HBgnuu8DyF 8ng4BArW7MX2BOQ6iJ4M2fe/JpYtFR2RFouCIcb4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c550f705a70594 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Stickers, grill badge, digest email Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I do still have badges and flags. Hit me up off list and I will get them to you. Chris On Jan 16, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Shawn, good questions. > > I have stickers....Joe Curry sent me the balance of his stock. If anyone else > wants one, contact me off list. These are the ones that are about 3 x 3. I can > bring you a couple Saturday. > > Christopher Bock has grill badges and flags.....he will likely respond. > > Some one will likely help you get to digest version, like Mark Bradakis. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Shawn Frank > To: gasket.works ; Joe Alexander > Sent: Wed, Jan 16, 2013 12:39 pm > Subject: Stickers, grill badge, digest email > > > > Are there grill badges available for FoT? How about stickers? If so, how much? > Where do I find them to see what they look like? Available online? Is there > any way to change my email preferences from my current setting to a digest > style email? Who do I ask about that? > > Thank you, > > Shawn Frank > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 13:05:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2133429DF for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:05:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s30.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s30.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.105]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 639FA422A1 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:04:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU154-W58 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s30.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:01:16 -0800 From: Charles WATSON CC: FOT List Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:01:16 -0500 References: <20130116180901.346C942928@autox.team.net>, FILETIME=[3E802D40:01CDF424] Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I appreciate all the advice and comments. To round out the picture, I am converting to a TR6 trans and am replacing the rotoflex system with a much beefier CV set up. Trying to start with upgraded components where I know there will be failures otherwise. I like the idea of staying with the stock 3.89 if it is not ridiculously uncompetitive and then moving to the welded diff later. Seems like an economical progression too. Thanks, Chuck Watson Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD From: sjanzen@me.com Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:50:44 -0500 CC: clw2000@msn.com; fot@autox.team.net To: jason@multivintage.com Jason raises some excellent points on weak links in the system - my drivetrain is virtually non-stock, with a TR4-6 transmission (GT6 ones last a couple of weekends if you are lucky), a modified driveshaft, the welded rear, halfshafts with spicer u-joints inside and outside, and modified uprights with larger bearings and Corvair stub axles. With the exception of the transmission, this is the way the car came to me, as it was raced in SCCA club racing back in the day. On Jan 16, 2013, at 1:04 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: Hey Chuck, lots of interesting feedback here. If I were in your position, I'd buy a couple good used 3.89's. (From a reliable used Triumph parts guy, like TSI or similar trusted source) Speaking from experience and paying specific attention to what Steve said. (He went through slow progression of set-ups that actually get harder and harder on the drive train with each developement) Like all of us GT6 guys, you will be embarking on a long path of finding drivetrain solidity that fits your driving style. In this process, you are most likely going to destroy a few key components. (Every one of us has). Perhaps, for the process of learning how to drive this car at hi speed and getting it initially sorted. For your first season, you may be very wise in the pocketbook, to start a regular old (good) stock diff. I think that (specifically for the gt6) you can take the Quaife off the table. In the end, I agree with Scott and Steve; the welded set up is the advanced choice. BUT, its effectiveness leaves no room for errors in the transition between gears. Perfect rev matching is required and lots of seat time prior to a "trick" diff. may serve you well. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing ------Original Message------ From: Charles WATSON To: FOT List Subject: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Sent: Jan 16, 2013 7:29 AM Well my GT6 has O/D and so it was supposed to have the 3.89 ratio diff. But I have found that was swapped out at some point to a 3.27. I want to go back to a 3.89 unit. Any good sources for one? And for road racing, should I go stock, weld it, or go with a LSD. I hear of a lot of failures with the Quaife units - so I hate to throw a grand at that product. Any advice is appreciated! Thanks, Chuck Watson _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 13:35:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BD4429B0 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:35:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E1F40E37 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:34:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id oc8n1k0040b6N64A1kX8y4; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:31:08 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([24.22.75.60]) by omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id okX71k00A1J37AG8PkX7Q9; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:31:08 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:31:07 -0800 From: Jim Norlin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <20130116180901.346C942928@autox.team.net>, s=q20121106; t=1358368268; bh=XDanJTe2IMhEAVSL3GGaPgIp0ntZhBuxfeaRESAlaYw=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=V7pEU5eLDm/Cow88u/m7MAc6oj198TKw/AB6BkpY0l19I+jZ6b/NHdS/XVnxlliP1 vME2ST9TloZkixnrHJYNsBfLBPp8uyXSlfbXTdIs2S7TJBOyTZAYSvYs4jQ9cls0hs +KTdYAJOWVI/nzmCWpUWFOJGxHrNVHHCYxhnOzUd8706bTPMSU9fQGPQUY5Xz3fTz1 LYib1sP8h13yvzDBcBQY7t1SQNBCSrs5WRu9YDE8IHae1RsmaLd2qgtpGDVFnf9FSr kcTvmzlpLQ1pKQRBQyZtAGSi6/6ecKzZ9kWlqo4ZNFSuRZUjZQVLblaZvGIN0XXArh JyF6wYt/H7ZXg== Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I suspect the GT6 rear suspension will work much better than the Spitfire's swing axles. Years ago, I tried racing a Spit with an open diff for one weekend. It was horrid. The inside rear got so light in the turns that I could spin the Goodyear slick in third gear at 70 mph. Put in a welded diff and knocked around 2 seconds off the lap time if I remember correctly. On 1/16/2013 12:01 PM, Charles WATSON wrote: > I appreciate all the advice and comments. To round out the picture, I am > converting to a TR6 trans and am replacing the rotoflex system with a much > beefier CV set up. Trying to start with upgraded components where I know > there will be failures otherwise. I like the idea of staying with the stock > 3.89 if it is not ridiculously uncompetitive and then moving to the welded > diff later. Seems like an economical progression too. > > Thanks, > > Chuck Watson _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 13:43:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD53642A1B for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:43:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2FA429F3 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:43:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.194]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 3F9B21C000175; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:39:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from [75.233.4.164] (164.sub-75-233-4.myvzw.com [75.233.4.164]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 7531AE000096; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:39:19 -0500 (EST) References: <20130116180901.346C942928@autox.team.net> From: Chuck Gee Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:39:15 -0800 To: Charles WATSON x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358368760; bh=dInJuklnnaFRQF+FuDrrQttZ/0xPc64cNN51PJvggG0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=IyENby2+YBqC1Y4S19akiJQiAc3XO5F0ZRxhrvEYd9vr2gMu65z9WrMHWn372/FHw 5hMdMiYf5FLqAHWDqxeBafCrWxTLkwI8MkwOrlYeVci1t3VIFMmRVcdo5Qoxrb/usR koGUjjPsOqBXSvEQ0fttcCZRB3OCeSPYMhKcu69Y= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c250f70ff77e75 Cc: FOT List Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Or you could just buy mine and skip all of this development stuff. ;). Chuck On Jan 16, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Charles WATSON wrote: > I appreciate all the advice and comments. To round out the picture, I am > converting to a TR6 trans and am replacing the rotoflex system with a much > beefier CV set up. Trying to start with upgraded components where I know > there will be failures otherwise. I like the idea of staying with the stock > 3.89 if it is not ridiculously uncompetitive and then moving to the welded > diff later. Seems like an economical progression too. > > Thanks, > > Chuck Watson > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD > From: sjanzen@me.com > Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:50:44 -0500 > CC: clw2000@msn.com; fot@autox.team.net > To: jason@multivintage.com > > Jason raises some excellent points on weak links in the system - my drivetrain > is virtually non-stock, with a TR4-6 transmission (GT6 ones last a couple of > weekends if you are lucky), a modified driveshaft, the welded rear, halfshafts > with spicer u-joints inside and outside, and modified uprights with larger > bearings and Corvair stub axles. > With the exception of the transmission, this is the way the car came to me, as > it was raced in SCCA club racing back in the day. > > > > > On Jan 16, 2013, at 1:04 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > Hey Chuck, lots of interesting feedback here. If I were in your position, I'd > buy a couple good used 3.89's. (From a reliable used Triumph parts guy, like > TSI or similar trusted source) > Speaking from experience and paying specific attention to what Steve said. (He > went through slow progression of set-ups that actually get harder and harder > on the drive train with each developement) Like all of us GT6 guys, you will > be embarking on a long path of finding drivetrain solidity that fits your > driving style. In this process, you are most likely going to destroy a few key > components. (Every one of us has). Perhaps, for the process of learning how > to drive this car at hi speed and getting it initially sorted. For your first > season, you may be very wise in the pocketbook, to start a regular old (good) > stock diff. > I think that (specifically for the gt6) you can take the Quaife off the table. > In the end, I agree with Scott and Steve; the welded set up is the advanced > choice. > BUT, its effectiveness leaves no room for errors in the transition between > gears. Perfect rev matching is required and lots of seat time prior to a > "trick" diff. may serve you well. > > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > ------Original Message------ > From: Charles WATSON > Sender: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > To: FOT List > Subject: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD > Sent: Jan 16, 2013 7:29 AM > > Well my GT6 has O/D and so it was supposed to have the 3.89 ratio diff. But > I > have found that was swapped out at some point to a 3.27. I want to go back > to > a 3.89 unit. Any good sources for one? And for road racing, should I go > stock, weld it, or go with a LSD. I hear of a lot of failures with the > Quaife > units - so I hate to throw a grand at that product. Any advice is > appreciated! > > Thanks, > > Chuck Watson > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com > > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 14:20:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF8142A1B for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:20:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B31D429FB for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:18:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.200]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 434573800024C for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:14:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msa001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msa001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.65]) by mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 18D15E000089 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:14:50 -0500 (EST) References: <1358361586.84929.YahooMailNeo@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8CFC23146A582E2-1260-3CF96@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com> <8DE5CCD8-E981-4BB5-B3CF-664D76D8BE94@aol.com> To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com (64.12.183.102) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:14:49 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:14:50 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358370890; bh=x79+hxbtcOMBThPKWi86AWw9Ae4FJVlddJ7qLOXnZ4Q=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=m1hTMAjDQEVK6HQ+vECM/9X2IwHp4Newm4GkIuofmJ1TcVgf8+ryMxAa8hhqeICJw ca15em6ooLAI3D4Es64CTuXgCT+98/OMRdp4kVrWSY7MnKYMF+/A1y61hRoIA/YaR0 xGIPpkNnjGAi7SRGX0alWNUFidqqUh48aeAME6zs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c850f7184a666a Subject: [Fot] FOT REGALIA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT: It looks like we are going to have a run on FOT REGALIA. Our benefactors on regalia have been folks like Joe Curry, Chris Bock, and Marty Sukey. This is a patently obnoxious undertaking.....sizes, quantities, collections, shipping, ad nauseum. You'd better grab what Chris Bock has for BADGES and FLAGS.....there might not be further runs. As for the FOT LOGO STICKERS.....I already have an account at SIGNS BY TOMORROW in Cedar Falls. I think I will get a quote on the LOGO stickers. I am also thinking about getting the "OK TO RACE KAS KASTNER" clear mylars for applications to the cars at the KASTNER CUP. I will also look at some signage featuring the "Sponsors" of the 2013 KASTNER CUP. Any other ideas? Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Bock To: Joe Alexander Cc: my71spit13 ; fot Sent: Wed, Jan 16, 2013 1:55 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Stickers, grill badge, digest email I do still have badges and flags. Hit me up off list and I will get them to you. Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 14:40:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043DC429F9 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:40:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo101.cox.net (fed1rmfepo101.cox.net [68.230.241.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BBC142593 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:40:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from fed1rmimpo110 ([68.230.241.159]) by fed1rmfepo101.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20130116213706.VPYX15828.fed1rmfepo101.cox.net@fed1rmimpo110> for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:37:06 -0500 Received: from Vista ([68.110.89.224]) by fed1rmimpo110 with cox id old61k0044qRjhw01ld6Vy; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:37:06 -0500 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:17 a=hXbJJB0ey0AA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=8MRp9ld8AnAA:10 a=Pyq9K9CWowscuQLKlpiwfMBGOR0=:19 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=sskR1B85AAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=7N_aJbbPAAAA:8 a=QQtG09rXzv1vmOPLrJoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=5nmbGoeUrHwA:10 a=iOgyu-XeqMgA:10 a=MG4Rcr4xqJIA:10 a=MnK-OHSXTlEA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=p5ZAGxalUHUA:10 a=INQB15XkED0A:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=NSLCoO8FWMlTicKu:21 a=Dm0DqXWiWQBmOCtS:21 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: "'Mike Moore'" , "'Joe Alexander'" , , References: <1358361586.84929.YahooMailNeo@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><8CFC23146A582E2-1260-3CF96@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com> <000001cdf41e$f98c9a70$eca5cf50$@net> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:37:19 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac30G8f6ce3Wvis+SlGTgNUXc4du3QAAyHoQAASixWA= Subject: Re: [Fot] Stickers, grill badge, digest email Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If anybody needs any large size FOT (or other type) decals, I can do these on a low volume basis for anyone who wants some. Just shoot me an email. Joe C. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Moore Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 12:24 PM To: 'Joe Alexander'; my71spit13@yahoo.com; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Stickers, grill badge, digest email I would be interested in these items also. Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Alexander Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 1:49 PM To: my71spit13@yahoo.com; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Stickers, grill badge, digest email Shawn, good questions. I have stickers....Joe Curry sent me the balance of his stock. If anyone else wants one, contact me off list. These are the ones that are about 3 x 3. I can bring you a couple Saturday. Christopher Bock has grill badges and flags.....he will likely respond. Some one will likely help you get to digest version, like Mark Bradakis. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Shawn Frank To: gasket.works ; Joe Alexander Sent: Wed, Jan 16, 2013 12:39 pm Subject: Stickers, grill badge, digest email Are there grill badges available for FoT? How about stickers? If so, how much? Where do I find them to see what they look like? Available online? Is there any way to change my email preferences from my current setting to a digest style email? Who do I ask about that? Thank you, Shawn Frank _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore@wave1.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 14:56:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8B1429ED for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:56:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.o2.co.uk (sidious.london.02.net [82.132.130.152]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D27B5429ED for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:56:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.30.165.180] (82.132.245.221) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.5.140.03) id 50BCF2430BFB45AD; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:52:18 +0000 References: <8CFC21477D32852-1260-3AE7E@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com> From: TR4 Tony Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:34:45 +0000 To: Tony and Annie Garmey Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I believe those diffs are also available from others - Racestorations are not the sole supplier. TR Enterprises in Nottingham definately can supply and as I've found at a good price. Sent from my iPhone On 16 Jan 2013, at 15:46, Tony and Annie Garmey wrote: > I would also like to add, that you can replace the clutch plates and ramps in > the tran x diffs. The Tran x Brand has been sold to quaife and the guys who > used to make Tran x, are making there own version...which is only available > through Darrel at racetorations in the uk. I've not seen or used the new diffs > ...as of yet. >> From: horizonracing@msn.com >> To: n197tr4@cs.com; clw2000@msn.com; fot@autox.team.net >> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:41:30 -0800 >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD >> >> Although I have a quaife in the K car, I prefer a Clutch type LSD simply >> because there tune-able. I have made tools to be able to check the > 'breakaway" >> of the clutch plates. Peyote and the Devin use Tran x brand diffs with a >> breakaway of 35-40lbs. My MGB's run at 50-55lbs and we set the Can Am car > up >> (Hewland) with a 20-25 lbs. By breakaway, I mean the amount of force it > takes >> to turn one wheel. Every driver and car set up is different and its takes > some >> test time to find a happy spot. The only "failure" of a quaife "torson" > diff >> I've found is the spring washers breaking and maybe that was because I >> increased the pre loaded of the shim pack looking for something a little > extra >> :) . i also recommend redline heavy weight shock proof gear oil. >> CheersTony >>> To: clw2000@msn.com; fot@autox.team.net >>> From: n197tr4@cs.com >>> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:22:46 -0500 >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD >>> >>> i've never heard of a failure with a quaife. >>> >>> we installed ours 20 years ago and have never opened it up again. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Joe Alexander >>> A. R. E. >>> 645 1st Street >>> Jesup, Iowa 50648 >>> 319.464.4711 (cell) >>> n197tr4@cs.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Charles WATSON >>> To: FOT List >>> Sent: Wed, Jan 16, 2013 7:31 am >>> Subject: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD >>> >>> >>> Well my GT6 has O/D and so it was supposed to have the 3.89 ratio diff. >> But >>> I >>> have found that was swapped out at some point to a 3.27. I want to go > back >>> to >>> a 3.89 unit. Any good sources for one? And for road racing, should I go >>> stock, weld it, or go with a LSD. I hear of a lot of failures with the >>> Quaife >>> units - so I hate to throw a grand at that product. Any advice is >>> appreciated! >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Chuck Watson >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 15:08:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3BD642A95 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:08:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f46.google.com (mail-pa0-f46.google.com [209.85.220.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E74D429E6 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:05:39 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id bh2so1030820pad.19 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:01:58 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=x1lTH0kGgqyTHen6KY1MIdsRJlbDzwMPE/kiZekwo0s=; b=XYyaT2ARVwclJiyiqb73NNdWWAZNDzjvYs+9f/uZACwzeuRK0eFnw8TDHQpymHeL1c eEtIqPbGDv8X/iG6wlwPs0zHtfj2Q0m2ddDH+OzTsl+nuq/RE93BPYKy8g82fs6p++1V V5FXQJGoeg52xmYpDD2r9DQY5zFaKe5oD+lb6VHgce2n4cwwDhzbqI45Vg1SfGOgct3v mXOmWKBxbPJYA0Vp55AkwcNAdTFwpEHrWtk8/QxWZM6dVIKwah22l9VJjFL4r1oy3lJ5 +C0I2rmJY1rYc/UP+6BM73/ZAUR2gUwNY1t9mlLxQe9Bij4CM2oH+m+HewJPaWmTC26i 2JTQ== bo4mr7345631pab.62.1358373717863; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:01:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.77.102 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:01:57 -0800 (PST) References: <20130116180901.346C942928@autox.team.net> <7A9AC6E2-462A-46CA-A9F7-64D815190B83@aol.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:01:57 -0600 From: Jason Ostrowski To: Chuck Gee Cc: FOT List Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Chuck Gee wrote: > Or you could just buy mine and skip all of this development stuff. ;). > > Chuck > Interesting proposition Eh Watson? > > Of course, Mr. Gee, Although we have no doubts about the quality of your design and potential for performance... We have yet to hear so much as a peep as far as race reports go.(at least here on FoT) It sure looks lovely on paper. Got any wear on that rubber? Rumor has it you are busy with work and have not had much free time to get that baby out on track? How's that sweet looking coupe performing? Look at this Gaggle of interested geese! If you get a chance, Can you give us any update on that gt6.... anything since the book came out? How does it compare with your Cup winning spitfire for example? Sorry to bother but its really cold out here and all some of us can do right now is TALK about Racing. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 15:10:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB32403A6 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:10:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 668AC429E6 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:07:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.10]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4EB441C00013F; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:03:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msa001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msa001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.65]) by mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E219CE00008E; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:03:58 -0500 (EST) References: <8CFC21477D32852-1260-3AE7E@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com> To: tr4.tony@virgin.net, horizonracing@msn.com Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com (64.12.183.102) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:03:58 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:03:58 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358373839; bh=friy3CgM9MB4htQtxWIo+7Yho58lMQmrdbtIZmE/Wk8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sqKLVSoW6HJLac/rOZ491LJK/0Zpd2OfMjJB2e6fuUjb5AUGe9XxQt9pmZuJ8p02u oAJ1R+cQ7YUR/APiCFsnA8HdYi3HyhiP6qiE+WUn7oBHoCGC9pW6VdZ/XxOCzlXpAi VwVr9JiistLREOaftouud6bgEAbzY5un4OjeLjsc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290a50f723ce117c Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD now TR ENTERPRISES Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, TR ENTERPRISES AND Simon Watson, Parts Manager for TR Enterprises will be one of our UK Guests at KCUP 2013. This would be a good time to ask him about these and other parts that are available thru TR ENTERPRISES. Jon Wood, who is a Master Triumph Wrench for our race cars will be coming, as well. The Kastner Cup at Road America is going to be a very good place to be in September. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: TR4 Tony To: Tony and Annie Garmey Cc: ; ; Sent: Wed, Jan 16, 2013 3:52 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD I believe those diffs are also available from others - Racestorations are not the sole supplier. TR Enterprises in Nottingham definately can supply and as I've found at a good price. Sent from my iPhone On 16 Jan 2013, at 15:46, Tony and Annie Garmey wrote: > I would also like to add, that you can replace the clutch plates and ramps in > the tran x diffs. The Tran x Brand has been sold to quaife and the guys who > used to make Tran x, are making there own version...which is only available > through Darrel at racetorations in the uk. I've not seen or used the new diffs > ...as of yet. >> From: horizonracing@msn.com >> To: n197tr4@cs.com; clw2000@msn.com; fot@autox.team.net >> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:41:30 -0800 >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD >> >> Although I have a quaife in the K car, I prefer a Clutch type LSD simply >> because there tune-able. I have made tools to be able to check the > 'breakaway" >> of the clutch plates. Peyote and the Devin use Tran x brand diffs with a >> breakaway of 35-40lbs. My MGB's run at 50-55lbs and we set the Can Am car > up >> (Hewland) with a 20-25 lbs. By breakaway, I mean the amount of force it > takes >> to turn one wheel. Every driver and car set up is different and its takes > some >> test time to find a happy spot. The only "failure" of a quaife "torson" > diff >> I've found is the spring washers breaking and maybe that was because I >> increased the pre loaded of the shim pack looking for something a little > extra >> :) . i also recommend redline heavy weight shock proof gear oil. >> CheersTony >>> To: clw2000@msn.com; fot@autox.team.net >>> From: n197tr4@cs.com >>> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:22:46 -0500 >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD >>> >>> i've never heard of a failure with a quaife. >>> >>> we installed ours 20 years ago and have never opened it up again. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Joe Alexander >>> A. R. E. >>> 645 1st Street >>> Jesup, Iowa 50648 >>> 319.464.4711 (cell) >>> n197tr4@cs.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Charles WATSON >>> To: FOT List >>> Sent: Wed, Jan 16, 2013 7:31 am >>> Subject: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD >>> >>> >>> Well my GT6 has O/D and so it was supposed to have the 3.89 ratio diff. >> But >>> I >>> have found that was swapped out at some point to a 3.27. I want to go > back >>> to >>> a 3.89 unit. Any good sources for one? And for road racing, should I go >>> stock, weld it, or go with a LSD. I hear of a lot of failures with the >>> Quaife >>> units - so I hate to throw a grand at that product. Any advice is >>> appreciated! >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Chuck Watson >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 16:33:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2BD0429F9 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:33:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5129342470 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:33:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.68]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 951D41C000146; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:29:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.244.229.137] (mobile-198-228-224-128.mycingular.net [198.228.224.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 661D6E0000C3; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:29:43 -0500 (EST) References: <8CFC21477D32852-1260-3AE7E@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com> From: Christopher Bock Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:29:46 -0500 To: TR4 Tony x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358378985; bh=dOakEO0oryetAhzovXr08wjayo6cO0NRBZFyVL0x4gE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=XtISgOdVRN2c8kitsbWAmFbq/ukaUaQ3btogX2gOO7AgvyKQ5LkugLqV8QIKs9F6h qlwWL2llB9hPb/Ov34MabTA7FoTILsuDLjFzrnXOZxO2Dzww4C06pixgzUICasG5u6 JZeCf+c6GgMD9zz6TFUcXOgHJu/WkWLb431TXv60= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294450f737e750b8 Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have an extra stick diff if anyone is interested. Chris On Jan 16, 2013, at 4:34 PM, TR4 Tony wrote: > I believe those diffs are also available from others - Racestorations are not > the sole supplier. TR Enterprises in Nottingham definately can supply and as > I've found at a good price. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 16 Jan 2013, at 15:46, Tony and Annie Garmey > wrote: > >> I would also like to add, that you can replace the clutch plates and ramps > in >> the tran x diffs. The Tran x Brand has been sold to quaife and the guys who >> used to make Tran x, are making there own version...which is only available >> through Darrel at racetorations in the uk. I've not seen or used the new > diffs >> ...as of yet. >>> From: horizonracing@msn.com >>> To: n197tr4@cs.com; clw2000@msn.com; fot@autox.team.net >>> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:41:30 -0800 >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD >>> >>> Although I have a quaife in the K car, I prefer a Clutch type LSD simply >>> because there tune-able. I have made tools to be able to check the >> 'breakaway" >>> of the clutch plates. Peyote and the Devin use Tran x brand diffs with a >>> breakaway of 35-40lbs. My MGB's run at 50-55lbs and we set the Can Am car >> up >>> (Hewland) with a 20-25 lbs. By breakaway, I mean the amount of force it >> takes >>> to turn one wheel. Every driver and car set up is different and its takes >> some >>> test time to find a happy spot. The only "failure" of a quaife "torson" >> diff >>> I've found is the spring washers breaking and maybe that was because I >>> increased the pre loaded of the shim pack looking for something a little >> extra >>> :) . i also recommend redline heavy weight shock proof gear oil. >>> CheersTony >>>> To: clw2000@msn.com; fot@autox.team.net >>>> From: n197tr4@cs.com >>>> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:22:46 -0500 >>>> Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD >>>> >>>> i've never heard of a failure with a quaife. >>>> >>>> we installed ours 20 years ago and have never opened it up again. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Joe Alexander >>>> A. R. E. >>>> 645 1st Street >>>> Jesup, Iowa 50648 >>>> 319.464.4711 (cell) >>>> n197tr4@cs.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Charles WATSON >>>> To: FOT List >>>> Sent: Wed, Jan 16, 2013 7:31 am >>>> Subject: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD >>>> >>>> >>>> Well my GT6 has O/D and so it was supposed to have the 3.89 ratio diff. >>> But >>>> I >>>> have found that was swapped out at some point to a 3.27. I want to go >> back >>>> to >>>> a 3.89 unit. Any good sources for one? And for road racing, should I go >>>> stock, weld it, or go with a LSD. I hear of a lot of failures with the >>>> Quaife >>>> units - so I hate to throw a grand at that product. Any advice is >>>> appreciated! >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Chuck Watson >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 16:43:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B4F42A86 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:43:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F702427E0 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:43:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.196]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 22C6C380000BE; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:39:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from [198.18.108.242] (unknown [67.138.161.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id A508FE0000BE; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:39:49 -0500 (EST) References: <20130116180908.90348429EF@autox.team.net> From: Chuck Gee Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:39:48 -0800 To: "jason@multivintage.com" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358379590; bh=/mnoEOO1CkF58L8u0A59/NQK6BLxRXUA3TbOnuEPTOU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=vhqczPNgGgEczwZ+WCQtbWhWu3bA7BpcG76Mtrjv2i8r+8SACQPj7SNSsp3kSixFk QK/zQsixHAZNIEjr9a2YD+opyzERxFb5xSosvEG2h08FotYfCFk28nAYFFnLYEJz32 Fq1Cm7V/z08hAnGVLkEZqTVhpP1PnmSc1Ps5LOA0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c450f73a45776b Cc: "fot-bounces@autox.team.net" , FOT List Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've always run welded diffs in my cars. I don't know about them being the advanced choice, but they are cheap and very effective, especially in light cars like ours. I also have Detroit Lockers that I haven't played with yet. Kas and Barker like them better than welded. If I had one at Portland in the rain a few years ago, the rear end may have been more forgiving and I might not ended in the wall. That's what Jerry Barker tells me anyway. Chuck On Jan 16, 2013, at 10:04 AM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > Hey Chuck, lots of interesting feedback here. If I were in your position, I'd buy a couple good used 3.89's. (From a reliable used Triumph parts guy, like TSI or similar trusted source) > Speaking from experience and paying specific attention to what Steve said. (He went through slow progression of set-ups that actually get harder and harder on the drive train with each developement) Like all of us GT6 guys, you will be embarking on a long path of finding drivetrain solidity that fits your driving style. In this process, you are most likely going to destroy a few key components. (Every one of us has). Perhaps, for the process of learning how to drive this car at hi speed and getting it initially sorted. For your first season, you may be very wise in the pocketbook, to start a regular old (good) stock diff. > I think that (specifically for the gt6) you can take the Quaife off the table. In the end, I agree with Scott and Steve; the welded set up is the advanced choice. > BUT, its effectiveness leaves no room for errors in the transition between gears. Perfect rev matching is required and lots of seat time prior to a "trick" diff. may serve you well. > > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > ------Original Message------ > From: Charles WATSON > Sender: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > To: FOT List > Subject: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD > Sent: Jan 16, 2013 7:29 AM > > Well my GT6 has O/D and so it was supposed to have the 3.89 ratio diff. But I > have found that was swapped out at some point to a 3.27. I want to go back to > a 3.89 unit. Any good sources for one? And for road racing, should I go > stock, weld it, or go with a LSD. I hear of a lot of failures with the Quaife > units - so I hate to throw a grand at that product. Any advice is > appreciated! > > Thanks, > > Chuck Watson > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com > > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 16:50:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE42429D0 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:50:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70BEC422E5 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:50:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.194]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E8DC51C00004B; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:46:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from [198.18.108.242] (unknown [67.138.161.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 6E95BE00009A; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:46:58 -0500 (EST) References: <20130116180901.346C942928@autox.team.net> <7A9AC6E2-462A-46CA-A9F7-64D815190B83@aol.com> From: Chuck Gee Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:46:56 -0800 To: Jason Ostrowski x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358380018; bh=7rOv50nNSPsGWNyHLdvsFOAnIGvEFxK6h7BqeA+Ux2k=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=VgfSg+LpZFMvrvoK3KqgFfvt7Oww7+5VWJ7FE0nZ7n92KPQNbV7qyBX6CkiW5qVIN 2GqpUj/5cCyFpV1z8QLvHsSY0qwpV21HXuxN5y4H0BZ5dMezFgg40JKm4UfzQNgLeR g5zjqXXJYjy6AlCvgjjJEC0w6WyhWVd6Y9+ZLiWk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c250f73bf22713 Cc: FOT List Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've had it out a few times and its coming along nicely. Still some teething issues with carburetor settings and spring rates but hey, tuning is what it's all about. The last race I finished 8th out of about 35, third in class. Not bad for a relatively new car and not being a regular at the track for a while. The best thing was that nothing broke and I didn't have to fix anything. Just messed with tuning stuff. I plan on getting out a little more this year, including the Cup race at Elkhart. Looks like about a 70% chance that I'll be there. The car should be very developed by then. Chuck On Jan 16, 2013, at 2:01 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Chuck Gee wrote: >> Or you could just buy mine and skip all of this development stuff. ;). >> >> Chuck >> Interesting proposition Eh Watson? > Of course, Mr. Gee, Although we have no doubts about the quality of your design and potential for performance... We have yet to hear so much as a peep as far as race reports go.(at least here on FoT) > It sure looks lovely on paper. > Got any wear on that rubber? > Rumor has it you are busy with work and have not had much free time to get that baby out on track? > How's that sweet looking coupe performing? > Look at this Gaggle of interested geese! > If you get a chance, Can you give us any update on that gt6.... anything since the book came out? How does it compare with your Cup winning spitfire for example? > > Sorry to bother but its really cold out here and all some of us can do right now is TALK about Racing. > > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 16:51:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B560242A80 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:51:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f53.google.com (mail-pa0-f53.google.com [209.85.220.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004A4429DC; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:50:43 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id hz1so1077466pad.40 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:47:01 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=JBKK/CBT73oaBBnY7ULM0BA9sz3XbsbJr8U6Nmn/CF8=; b=NxYnxRDvJNEpUMTwOIFIWSmPtVbe3GxLUTreBuK9i6fWe79TjQP5x/gQvmd6BGNxgG 2xP0H8DnXr1joVhZ5+1shKDvXv7CK2hK8bGzkuuGvYOB1q2co5Ivg6bDXxhVzBRIcLaJ TsbO3YFmoESKxpafM2Dk8BETuEiuVl2VF/+pND+pTagFShCYQ8Fsmv35Mg8WeU0TS9tG Mhqc4xgYP3wNnFj32fasV+9LBzI6NnnGLsmmQwTdQVDlGU0iC5SE3Omi+7xYmHrMSExf nFPFQCZH/pNzpgJJrf9NldWl5AecqOmcz24yvfsgTwwRx5F08+ZaUfwI+ObiY+YlnIUQ f9cQ== qb3mr7422324pbb.129.1358380021077; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:47:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.38] (udp235485uds.hawaiiantel.net. [72.234.40.189]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id nt5sm13092890pbb.59.2013.01.16.15.46.57 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:46:59 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Babcock Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:46:56 -1000 References: <20130116180908.90348429EF@autox.team.net> <441C3EDF-3756-4D6F-9434-AE356DF69F8D@aol.com> To: Chuck Gee Cc: "fot-bounces@autox.team.net" , FOT List Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm very fond of a good LSD, they give you all the traction you're going to get without drama. Lockers are dramatic and affect the handling. I don't see a need to have something more that I need to manage. Welded is fine except for the handling oddities--again, something you have to drive around. I like having the car take care of that stuff so I don't have to. On Jan 16, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Chuck Gee wrote: > I've always run welded diffs in my cars. I don't know about them being the > advanced choice, but they are cheap and very effective, especially in light > cars like ours. I also have Detroit Lockers that I haven't played with yet. > Kas and Barker like them better than welded. If I had one at Portland in the > rain a few years ago, the rear end may have been more forgiving and I might > not ended in the wall. > > That's what Jerry Barker tells me anyway. > > Chuck > > On Jan 16, 2013, at 10:04 AM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > >> Hey Chuck, lots of interesting feedback here. If I were in your position, > I'd buy a couple good used 3.89's. (From a reliable used Triumph parts guy, > like TSI or similar trusted source) >> Speaking from experience and paying specific attention to what Steve said. > (He went through slow progression of set-ups that actually get harder and > harder on the drive train with each developement) Like all of us GT6 guys, you > will be embarking on a long path of finding drivetrain solidity that fits your > driving style. In this process, you are most likely going to destroy a few key > components. (Every one of us has). Perhaps, for the process of learning how > to drive this car at hi speed and getting it initially sorted. For your first > season, you may be very wise in the pocketbook, to start a regular old (good) > stock diff. >> I think that (specifically for the gt6) you can take the Quaife off the > table. In the end, I agree with Scott and Steve; the welded set up is the > advanced choice. >> BUT, its effectiveness leaves no room for errors in the transition between > gears. Perfect rev matching is required and lots of seat time prior to a > "trick" diff. may serve you well. >> >> Jason Ostrowski >> Friendly Ghost Racing >> ------Original Message------ >> From: Charles WATSON >> Sender: fot-bounces@autox.team.net >> To: FOT List >> Subject: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD >> Sent: Jan 16, 2013 7:29 AM >> >> Well my GT6 has O/D and so it was supposed to have the 3.89 ratio diff. But > I >> have found that was swapped out at some point to a 3.27. I want to go back > to >> a 3.89 unit. Any good sources for one? And for road racing, should I go >> stock, weld it, or go with a LSD. I hear of a lot of failures with the > Quaife >> units - so I hate to throw a grand at that product. Any advice is >> appreciated! >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chuck Watson >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com >> >> >> >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billb@bnj.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 17:02:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6DD42A59 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:02:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EACA340E32 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:02:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.4]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 238E71C000059 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:58:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.244.229.137] (mobile-198-228-224-128.mycingular.net [198.228.224.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 88D66E0000A5; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:58:24 -0500 (EST) References: <1358361586.84929.YahooMailNeo@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8CFC23146A582E2-1260-3CF96@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com> <8DE5CCD8-E981-4BB5-B3CF-664D76D8BE94@aol.com> <8CFC245A7436262-1260-3EAD2@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com> From: Christopher Bock Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:58:27 -0500 To: Joe Alexander x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358380712; bh=qRlwboZ2k26ngKjpN9uazQ/2YXFbTpflNxx4xoKtVVw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=mtBxnLt++8bpvWhJwLv4kR4P51NzstjAYNmsxXhxmnrnBSqbQQtGR91MvfPzWFEGR I+Kp7eph/M0HQtoW4w0I6NLKd+Fvth+L28BP29hnADHKtCAaYbfLc7jSA9Yo4Has+B zYj69plfwC1m96/tm/1DcK01J9J7h6HyUMlPgTUg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290450f73ea00dae Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] FOT REGALIA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have quite a bit of badges and flags. However a second run of each can be done if needed. Chris On Jan 16, 2013, at 4:14 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > FOT: > > It looks like we are going to have a run on FOT REGALIA. > > Our benefactors on regalia have been folks like Joe Curry, Chris Bock, and > Marty Sukey. > > This is a patently obnoxious undertaking.....sizes, quantities, collections, > shipping, ad nauseum. > > You'd better grab what Chris Bock has for BADGES and FLAGS.....there might not > be further runs. > > As for the FOT LOGO STICKERS.....I already have an account at SIGNS BY > TOMORROW in Cedar Falls. I think I will get a quote on the LOGO stickers. I > am also thinking about getting the "OK TO RACE KAS KASTNER" clear mylars > for applications to the cars at the KASTNER CUP. I will also look at some > signage featuring the "Sponsors" of the 2013 KASTNER CUP. > > Any other ideas? > > > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Bock > To: Joe Alexander > Cc: my71spit13 ; fot > Sent: Wed, Jan 16, 2013 1:55 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Stickers, grill badge, digest email > > > I do still have badges and flags. Hit me up off list and I will get them to > you. > > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 17:28:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E749429E5 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:28:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f50.google.com (mail-pa0-f50.google.com [209.85.220.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B010425B1 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:28:12 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id hz10so1100694pad.9 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:24:29 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=EY2MZCi/Abma4gQjRDYVgaRuoXT1GyW/qc3sE/bPWw4=; b=FJ4plGMvc9ZiYS/UM+2Oms/B3El5F+5yfSbyD3DkA0XT70YY5YdBDTeX4gw3WJh4Pl oGCUMNqLnUdlbpUpARBl0cb4j7NzglyDNirCA0B0EfNf9mcf/zmVYY1xAevvTXsXuNwG pKCpMFPKeI8lHPMoy9efSeuWo8S5ciBaK3jQGHrAcizq4lIUSDYF1mtcNPVN8jGs9giy vWPKiZU042lxsAZtPhpADkxdRQFV2wq/6y6vQypEX1+X2QOhrpkW/AcgsKdbvtbrn7Zo W8iqO6ZXCu8Q419aQTKt1G7Df/qecTeGNELdKuLmVT2v2dJMCv/9SyY7dUAWZwz/c+26 R4FQ== bt2mr5227991pab.29.1358382269750; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:24:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.77.102 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:24:29 -0800 (PST) References: <20130116180908.90348429EF@autox.team.net> <441C3EDF-3756-4D6F-9434-AE356DF69F8D@aol.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:24:29 -0600 From: Jason Ostrowski To: Bill Babcock Cc: "fot-bounces@autox.team.net" , FOT List Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: > I'm very fond of a good LSD, Quick clarification in regards to this thread. Is there a LSD clutch type for the GT6 currently available? Thanks Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 17:48:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F80342A73 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:48:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s11.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s11.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9749403B9 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:44:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU002-W65 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s11.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:40:36 -0800 From: Jeff Clark To: "fot@autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:40:36 -0500 FILETIME=[43E8D7B0:01CDF44B] Subject: [Fot] 2013 Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm 90% certain you can add another GT6 to the field for the Kasner Cup, the track is only 16 hours from Ottawa and if she stays together for the 2013 season I'll be there, sounds like it's going to be a blast!Jeff Clark71 Gt6 #56 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 18:58:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9956842A80 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:58:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm1.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm1.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A94242861 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:58:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.127] by nm1.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jan 2013 01:54:31 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.124] by tm2.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jan 2013 01:54:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1029.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jan 2013 01:54:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 45611 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Jan 2013 01:54:30 -0000 s=s1024; t=1358387670; bh=fD6YTplowaXXVxqBl4TBCDEqm3nPro+pPUBDAGDH5fY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qMkHPYQ2nfxEWWVKgwIfxoEn3gLdc7pUFbaJwgQvPqFXQIaRkDeIi5GaPWs46fjyA+LJ1+5YsZD36fg/K5PV5UnyFePu5XboHFERQ5yTo9pCst/tZAfUfiXZEED/S4GD9yHUZI4H76FU1SRNkBb6C2GFv5xoW3e7Ti416SBbXeY= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=us50RaWoVQGs9kcSz/FqHLsNIBR3UdTfaCUCmz/g2BJDF7LFpFQQbad72FlftN4L9qYO1Wfi5CeGH8H8pECpS+GOy7VOCileex1E77YWBiVHsV32pN+kryw2mm6HcFeadtMyu/WGAWnYSdyi1zh2QJRHg4xyd+EhTbPXtBD4PZs=; x6Y9w.km98J1TD33xAM33mkgs.yKJX3Ut.lLabnBBfS5V4InQny6w_Lc8XJr mD7MBVx5qxl6jDPBr6zWbFn9tTcyn1w6sgWK6R45yB9.TrB20Gql_NxlQaie vwHIs5E14dRW5YWsGPDVOv66e5SKG2Y225PrxiViBOO7XbJVuob0Yg176wao xgdIB95OEaJlpHn_CL5wFsNSv9zVDq37J_bAW3vxHZUw2iQzMfwTdNMLxBU4 GtDDEhc8a.wK.MJWWevOHddnDvv7taZUnZSWvv_.0xee0BPZEB0dijJZmYrH mwnOWt9PO3RaLRVHCnRmYB4AjD0WtVWyI4QtcNAcWMbc.PRUbrHRDYZjd1Yx qZ1ZO7pa6RGJGfEQ0tuMYkG6C4etN4ulglFuWdF3TpzZAcj8QjTMXAKg4gJD CzNzYCa53NMCjqZ8pEXQkajXv6COfIeiKbhvi5kSinMN8AwSntHe2v.PyNOZ grvsQ6PiBFDEaZhoHK_9eW3eRQbjP7le6x.exIg6fO4Fag0cYdBtBfvsisHc 2r5QIFid6Gt_LEhCWRE7D_dbvq79eRa1.t0uKIX3_HvAWxFwOWc3n89CW2WJ X5UTvbzGCTYZD3TE69qLP3w-- Received: from [76.221.83.131] by web182204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:54:30 PST cHV0IHNvbWUgcGl4IG9uIHRvbmlnaHQuLi4gSSBhZ3JlZS4uLiBpZiB5b3UgYXJlbid0IG9uIGZhY2Vib29rIGl0J3Mgb2theSB0byAKY3Jvc3Mgb3ZlciB0byB0aGUgbGlnaHQuLi4gIEJvYmJ5CgoKCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwpGcm9tOiAieWVsbG93MDRAdHI0cmFjZXIuY29tIiA8eWVsbG93MDRAdHI0cmFjZXIuY29tPgpUbzogRm9UIFRyaXVtcGggPGZvdEBhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldD4KU2VudDogVHVlLCBKYW51YXJ5IDE1LCAyMDEzIDQ6MTk6MzUgQU0KU3ViamVjdDogUmUBMAEBAQE- References: <1358035484.7553.YahooMailClassic@web185003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><69B43FBD-0A77-471A-B64C-8B6F2980B0B2@bnj.com><5A509E0A-8BC9-4A39-B56B-90E43F7729A5@sbcglobal.net><1358209805.34681.YahooMailRC@web182203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB01F417ADCDF0@TITAN.dwholdings.local> <15C0F216E1BF4DA598B4CE95D3AD97BF@TRIUMPH.local> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:54:30 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: yellow04@tr4racer.com Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net put some pix on tonight... I agree... if you aren't on facebook it's okay to cross over to the light... Bobby ________________________________ From: "yellow04@tr4racer.com" To: FoT Triumph Sent: Tue, January 15, 2013 4:19:35 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com Ding ding ding ding..... We have a winner!!! Our Facebook page seems perfect for what we are talking about here, and it's already up and running. Do we really need more? Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Edward Dunn" >Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com > > Yes, we do! https://www.facebook.com/FriendsOfTriumph > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bobby Whitehead >> Subject: Re: [Fot] fot-racing.com >> >> here's a dumb idea....how about a facebook page....do we even have one? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 19:13:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E13B42A83 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:13:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27BFB425AA for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:13:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.200]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id DA41C1C000106; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:09:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dnd005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dnd005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.182.209]) by mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id B1424E000085; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:09:27 -0500 (EST) From: Gt6steve@aol.com Full-name: Gt6steve Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:09:27 -0500 (EST) To: jason@multivintage.com, ponobill@gmail.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358388567; bh=TCc4/i8wfmsviEEnvS2cORK673cxvE+c4T5ucPBj5KM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=iRdE+JlVVczlHntex9f36YJw0FDu/tNrba3zP/2pezWDF2IpHWiSwZm9sKpPi+wk3 Z2nSyIUPzacO3eoNK6vjJpoIL+9hxWTCxpE1SUuCIcZOEITj7G99ac5J5z9GJz7g5/ /hVwewBL/SnOzgDyUv17ADXmLkqL2Kzged9cFXb8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c850f75d5718e3 Cc: fot-bounces@autox.team.net, fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yeah, this thread has gotten confusing with the TR crowd answering a small chassis question. It's all good stuff but can get confusing. The two are not interchangable so maybe any subsequent responders could clarify the size they are referring to. Cuz I like reading about it all....;-)) In a message dated 1/16/2013 4:25:10 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, jason@multivintage.com writes: On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: > I'm very fond of a good LSD, Quick clarification in regards to this thread. Is there a LSD clutch type for the GT6 currently available? Thanks Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 19:49:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9B5429E6 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:49:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A841240E32 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:46:53 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=3LswxAMJMKUA:10 a=-U6hXXI5AAAA:8 a=VJpIdpMtCWIRrLJG04YA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=jEOLm_TLAIk8HOys:21 a=1wqxdkKFUDL_cgDg:21 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:51087] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 59/DD-25866-E3567F05; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 02:43:10 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:43:10 -0500 From: Randall Cc: fot@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [Fot] Advice on Differential - Stock, Lock or LSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > Quick clarification in regards to this thread. > Is there a LSD clutch type for the GT6 currently available? Bastuck has one listed on their Spit/GT6/Vitesse page, part number D200SPT. I assume that means it will fit a GT6, but I don't claim to know. Unfortunately it seems that direct links don't work, and their web site is a bit difficult to navigate. But here is a starting point: http://www.bastuck.de/ Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 19:50:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EF9342A9E for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:50:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm19-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8703840E32 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:48:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.199] by nm19.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jan 2013 02:44:20 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.106] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jan 2013 02:44:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1011.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jan 2013 02:44:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 34621 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Jan 2013 02:44:19 -0000 s=s1024; t=1358390659; bh=hHW4clu2FLnSdVFRYYfF9/2947fR+jZRvU0DEGVRPYo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hA1YqPfvRlJQy2H9Cut7pxIWokP3MhHhwNVWW6/tZXcDzq74wHe6v9n7jrns36LCU2HV0FHWpy0RHq5PZAITzaVKjIHae8HMiSueZ/Akehid5H50fJj4f/foPjVVboQHfWv4LpKYWMVWzzeCOfJeLvmokVQRoInb0Wh8J4FuVDs= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DS80xnoZLH8KZqUsqhSgGM167RJd34MSgaBhnpOKRyiu8bhpYXjnmuXLL1NQV1UY6zZZiMp+zOG/B4yqsTonmz4U5zhhY1oqjcLoWdYZFbIdIj5omBOk32Vcup4c2r7vXF4IwqGfcA58yT9OafEFkQ0nbkSIqdL7FwMPLVyN8uY=; TGKJSdNRqoHmjNDnub9m0tIXBoEvMexs2GgUpZGvyiEVqZKADOoqBxVa1Q2X 7jLsp0ZnetqsOuvJ5JTClodyh2vamU4PkQhTwTHRBl9WUX4gnacj0zTNqwjC P9TNApqTjtNNAJCNtF0klSjeLbRQFkFriCWmReUwoP7AmuI6SuvqFic_7UKV IDdOfIMY5qYgkDTQP1kAJbs_tudzak926JGOPW.UJ5MyRLLSdB.qE_UVvFDS pnJiM6lBlIrqtuTT4QqZuI9L44ip_6RGfniiDHIcgFRuq15IWDIQJs6SPzBI vSgKdcoTZ86z0dErBWkfsKhJc0Sbz7xaKHWUbdJEbgYgn1s401QHjlAsMKzO q.qu9WdBGZXx3o_GSlBpf6r5e6ri.UuiH4RJ_7Y8tvv6QBpT57ep2MGQpe4o SU_WGD2L3_Gyi2EdCiTYI1CPlnO1_IwNxY3XUky_J53YuMwJBWxwagdCeTUc k2VqIUSI- Received: from [76.221.83.131] by web182205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:44:19 PST ZnJlZSBiZWVyIGZvciBldmVyeWJvZHkKCgoKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCkZyb206IEpvZSBBbGV4YW5kZXIgPG4xOTd0cjRAY3MuY29tPgpUbzogZm90QGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0ClNlbnQ6IFdlZCwgSmFudWFyeSAxNiwgMjAxMyAzOjE3OjAxIFBNClN1YmplY3Q6IFtGb3RdIEZPVCBSRUdBTElBCgpGT1Q6CgpJdCBsb29rcyBsaWtlIHdlIGFyZSBnb2luZyB0byBoYXZlIGEgcnVuIG9uIEZPVCBSRUdBTElBLgoKT3VyIGJlbmVmYWN0b3JzIG9uIHJlZ2FsaWEgaGF2ZSBiZWVuIGYBMAEBAQE- References: <1358361586.84929.YahooMailNeo@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8CFC23146A582E2-1260-3CF96@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com> <8DE5CCD8-E981-4BB5-B3CF-664D76D8BE94@aol.com> <8CFC245A7436262-1260-3EAD2@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:44:19 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: Joe Alexander Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] FOT REGALIA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net free beer for everybody ________________________________ From: Joe Alexander To: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Wed, January 16, 2013 3:17:01 PM Subject: [Fot] FOT REGALIA FOT: It looks like we are going to have a run on FOT REGALIA. Our benefactors on regalia have been folks like Joe Curry, Chris Bock, and Marty Sukey. This is a patently obnoxious undertaking.....sizes, quantities, collections, shipping, ad nauseum. You'd better grab what Chris Bock has for BADGES and FLAGS.....there might not be further runs. As for the FOT LOGO STICKERS.....I already have an account at SIGNS BY TOMORROW in Cedar Falls. I think I will get a quote on the LOGO stickers. I am also thinking about getting the "OK TO RACE KAS KASTNER" clear mylars for applications to the cars at the KASTNER CUP. I will also look at some signage featuring the "Sponsors" of the 2013 KASTNER CUP. Any other ideas? Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Bock To: Joe Alexander Cc: my71spit13 ; fot Sent: Wed, Jan 16, 2013 1:55 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Stickers, grill badge, digest email I do still have badges and flags. Hit me up off list and I will get them to you. Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 19:54:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B8742A78 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:54:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com (imr-db01.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3319A40E33 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:54:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.73]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id C4FA338000084; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:50:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msa001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msa001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.65]) by mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 93150E000081; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:50:54 -0500 (EST) References: <1358361586.84929.YahooMailNeo@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8CFC23146A582E2-1260-3CF96@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com> <8DE5CCD8-E981-4BB5-B3CF-664D76D8BE94@aol.com> <8CFC245A7436262-1260-3EAD2@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com> <1358390659.15323.YahooMailRC@web182205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> To: igofaster@att.net Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com (64.12.183.102) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:50:54 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:50:54 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358391054; bh=WE06Ky0Bb01ZS3yM605MdlJVswoCgHlGTick7XTGaRU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=R7tXvR0p9snD4lQ47vW1CzzF2YHcoHTUy4OeoVfg40vNY+z7DdF+AuqdC173ESqwD rYV6Oez68cYPb91O7LvBLnNSHOxAFt7vG1aMNl/jqy+Uw3Pl/MZG2/ikZnLo04qyIz rm3JibItBlTjuaOHR/atoiLaByMifoUjg2LOGqng= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294950f7670e35cd Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] FOT REGALIA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net free beer for everybody ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ FRIDAY nite at the KCUP is free beer nite for all drivers and crew............... From: Joe Alexander To: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Wed, January 16, 2013 3:17:01 PM Subject: [Fot] FOT REGALIA FOT: It looks like we are going to have a run on FOT REGALIA. Our benefactors on regalia have been folks like Joe Curry, Chris Bock, and Marty Sukey. This is a patently obnoxious undertaking.....sizes, quantities, collections, shipping, ad nauseum. You'd better grab what Chris Bock has for BADGES and FLAGS.....there might not be further runs. As for the FOT LOGO STICKERS.....I already have an account at SIGNS BY TOMORROW in Cedar Falls. I think I will get a quote on the LOGO stickers. I am also thinking about getting the "OK TO RACE KAS KASTNER" clear mylars for applications to the cars at the KASTNER CUP. I will also look at some signage featuring the "Sponsors" of the 2013 KASTNER CUP. Any other ideas? Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Bock To: Joe Alexander Cc: my71spit13 ; fot Sent: Wed, Jan 16, 2013 1:55 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Stickers, grill badge, digest email I do still have badges and flags. Hit me up off list and I will get them to you. Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 20:14:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C07D42861 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:14:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm22-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm22-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.137]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D01C40527 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:14:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.126] by nm22.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jan 2013 03:10:39 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.122] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jan 2013 03:10:39 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1027.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jan 2013 03:10:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 23791 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Jan 2013 03:10:39 -0000 s=s1024; t=1358392239; bh=NM6vXmOuRAcEG2Kx/+T3y2diBi8sLUjAgYWGnQ8cwXs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PIqhFrM2UwVsrw2qW+n6VyR1RNCx5D9HwZb+GGh0SYa07WG/zHgrckilU85B378Iitx+MGlngkrmbefC97G9Euq68EQPnTM81h4rSc3+eA8pgtK5gV27LXjb4MHbRfV3pOQYDX63guBYz3ZeoOTAu71bEbZyqXmUlHjKmdtFJH0= s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=f/l/cofVMdQME+Zt6Q2zERUAjpYAp/duI3o1fN5lltMM1YlaVeZFPwPjkIsCOiw95z3/CvAy32l91E/aU7ZhyBymuoCbHy4Fjwp9agCG8gyTIFWYOZMiKltSZeE55GzaRnJ8UQngzJYnU4RGqGdP6K1Spy2nAfnCMpRr3iqwDgg=; dTyJWFVn6ueVxLAeZZQxujE3XwaMEKBtAPFvau3U15jMw334Sz.V21T_i3vF O9YmK8GmaLGb.wlXWoxzA_mCnvU06UB5kkJwHgQkPoTo9rhqVBC7v1KpZx5X BdLptWQzVLOcAdr0SamyuFLj7sPmGgVSsIVGDzEFivmpIplk7.YG00rAn.sS oMJfH6.FoPs1Fq3H8v3apRYPmmZTBjKsP6vuXhWgfq9JgVzJUnOoPUfWroR_ WcULjW9Ycr5uqHuK5XuFhLP2he0F46E8mjC0Zcu0hL_xYTT9QEcXeRokENDp EYpevmFDK8zpVWMO2hmR1Hbp6KfA3xgHWBiYTMwSUNlYhKuN4efQcDIbbcYx gI9NTEUF4v3qXLO0X.Arjx6rJXs8Qlfw3MlvV2m2mhr0.snBlqD6S1aEEUQU B63Ruoa.4h2_oYKaHpujUvfWj_avrEuB6PxSTuP0NR1BjeRLkq8e1jeh4OD8 aKiZKsgWlbsxM41gwHZTaXwRgLjHEJnXF2kv1gM.uflUrKVbmic96k9w7vn3 q6vQpeMCFM9b56R78U_9Mb54KNSh9G2xW.Jz3T49lhWOv1mMPz2u4nTuA686 M6pLFriipVl9NQmSM9qQFjTn36c_kjy634NWd6Px.Q0o0s0bDkmHqsExvAPf cY10Wn_FWGBIuJ_jshL6S9QrKh7Q8C9gpEBo63GmPAOrdtVotZBfqFMUHKg- - Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:10:39 PST Um9iZXJ0Og0KwqDCoCBUaGUgc2FkIHRoaW5nIGlzIHRoZXJlIGFyZSBubyAkMSwwMDAuMDAgYXhsZXMgb3V0IHRoZXJlLiBUaGUgb3B0aW9ucyBhcmUgdGhlIGF4bGVzIEpvZSBTaWFtIHNlbGxzLCBmb3IgSSBiZWxpZXZlLCBub3J0aCBvZiAkMiwwMDAsIGFuZCB0aGUgb25lcyBJIGRlc2lnbmVkIGZvciBTdW1tZXIncyBCcm90aGVycyB3aGljaCB3ZXJlIGFyb3VuZCAkMSwyMDAgdGhlIGxhc3QgdGltZSBJIG9yZGVyZWQgYSBjb3VwbGUgb2Ygc2V0cyBpbiAyMDA2LTIwMDcuIA0KwqDCoCBJTUhPIEkgd291bGQBMAEBAQE- Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:10:39 -0800 (PST) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: Scott Starkweather , "Robert M. Lang" Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire rear axles Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Robert: The sad thing is there are no $1,000.00 axles out there. The options are the axles Joe Siam sells, for I believe, north of $2,000, and the ones I designed for Summer's Brothers which were around $1,200 the last time I ordered a couple of sets in 2006-2007. IMHO I would not buy the Summer's Brothers axles anymore. After I gave them permission to use my design and build as they required they changed the design to; in my opinion, a inferior design with cheaper, smaller bearings. The first twenty or so sets were as we wanted, but the last two sets were pure junk. The original thought with the Summer's axles was to make a reasonably priced one piece axle using a Triumph lower trunnion modified for bigger bearings that could be bolted on with no other mods. We were successful with that, but, smaller bearings were substituted and the retainer ring was changed. The last two sets have had problems. If I were buying a set of Spitfire axles today I would buy the ones from Joe S. This coming from the guy that designed the ones that Summer's sells. Joe's are a far superior design. Everything is enlarged beyond the minimal safe requirements, and although it uses custom parts instead of Stanpart trunnions and vertical links it does not require mods to your car. Scott: Buy the ones from Joe S. -Ed Barnard- --- On Wed, 1/16/13, Robert M. Lang wrote: From: Robert M. Lang Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire rear axles To: "Scott Starkweather" Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Date: Wednesday, January 16, 2013, 8:19 AM Hi, Russ was quicker on the draw than I this morning. And he's 100% correct. $1000 for axles is a heck of a lot cheaper than getting another car. And the car isn't the only thing that can get hurt when "things go wild". This is serious stuff. And it's "safety related". Don't cheap out here, please. regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 17 06:02:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C11E42B1B for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:02:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.dieselperformanceparts.com (mail.dieselperformanceparts.com [173.221.146.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A3D4069C for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:02:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from DIESEL-SERVER.dppi.local ([fe80::b8f5:2ae1:37b2:f00b]) by DIESEL-SERVER.dppi.local ([fe80::b8f5:2ae1:37b2:f00b%10]) with mapi; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:58:49 -0600 From: Diesel Performance Parts - Info To: "'fot@autox.team.net'" Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:58:47 -0600 Thread-Topic: Spitfire axles Thread-Index: Ac30smOdglnmsNMaSQiBlqeD8TRVsA== Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: [Fot] Spitfire axles Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have to agree with Ed Barnard, I am the guy that bought new Summers Bros axles on the advise of past buyers and they changed the design even again and didn't tell me. Currently I have a old SCCA Square tail that I loved to race that is in 1000 pieces as the axles failed at Savannah and I did 4.5 rolls and that was in two different left and right directions. Luckily it was on the back part of the track vs the long last turn sweeper at WFO in 4th gear or the slow down for the 1 corner. I might not be able to type this if it had been there. I am currently converting this car to GT6 type axles with CV joints. Hopefully it will work out great. With the GT6 stuff even if an axle breaks the wheel stays verticle and you can drive out of the situation safely. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, INC. 411 Allied Drive Nashville, TN 37211 866-455-7788 Phone 615-834-9923 Fax www.dieselperformanceparts.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 17 06:51:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4662D42B13 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:51:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3141C40E4F for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:51:50 -0700 (MST) a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:17 a=7KaaxAUCt-sA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=WLlkkt5qwqYA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=MxbDwcoJAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=GP9v9QwPuQtaa3_n9P8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=Ume8oppRF2UA:10 a=qX_BA2Utg88A:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=V0RZh1QKhY4A:10 a=q9mC2fbAJx8A:10 a=fuQWneS1XMH8OWxa:21 a=w2t0Quva7mTual0V:21 a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:117 Received: from [67.255.16.235] ([67.255.16.235:62004] helo=Shop) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 69/48-03129-41108F05; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:48:05 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: "'Diesel Performance Parts - Info'" , References: Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:48:18 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac30smOdglnmsNMaSQiBlqeD8TRVsAABooZw Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire axles Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It's my understanding the company "Summers Brothers" has been sold a number of times in the past 10-15 years. What they sell today is not what was being offered back in the day. At one point their one piece axles were the stuff you could put on a coffee table in the living room as art work. Russ Moore Spitfire #49 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Diesel Performance Parts - Info Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:59 AM To: 'fot@autox.team.net' Subject: [Fot] Spitfire axles I have to agree with Ed Barnard, I am the guy that bought new Summers Bros axles on the advise of past buyers and they changed the design even again and didn't tell me. Currently I have a old SCCA Square tail that I loved to race that is in 1000 pieces as the axles failed at Savannah and I did 4.5 rolls and that was in two different left and right directions. Luckily it was on the back part of the track vs the long last turn sweeper at WFO in 4th gear or the slow down for the 1 corner. I might not be able to type this if it had been there. I am currently converting this car to GT6 type axles with CV joints. Hopefully it will work out great. With the GT6 stuff even if an axle breaks the wheel stays verticle and you can drive out of the situation safely. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, INC. 411 Allied Drive Nashville, TN 37211 866-455-7788 Phone 615-834-9923 Fax www.dieselperformanceparts.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 17 09:56:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A20A40E1E for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:56:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793164069C for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:56:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id p1Tk1k0010FhH24AF4shzQ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 16:52:41 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id p4sg1k0072vctGa8U4sgRk; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 16:52:40 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "Spitfire Racing" , "'Diesel Performance Parts - Info'" , References: <002001cdf4b9$4e8bbc00$eba33400$@rr.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:52:39 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1358441561; bh=MekOCrdRZzhbGoQbqAaVrtkXRS7S0jUZTA0iE5+pD/g=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jigsZ6ckWK3AWwwm5xUwrcnQLLS0AvIFr70HMD6bntWDGLQNH7i0BDsOPI31/a3Pr syNqDDSTfpKlQKC5ATRKPnLRqDO8n2DCbVynggmUZ2QF77itFtNGgKdvNnLuL0DFyT 5k4WFMbx+16Gx7+KIqNSC6Zj4gq37nrCdzAJ/Xk/PBwQSDRfpXYnw7DESO4+xSXkf7 QpNWUfJsG982FHg/zMSQmHeQvTDM0ZsyD2Aec/+0ogBmcvA/sR+ioF8Hl81QUi58H+ OjUfkDjQl5S3Mt0c9521CMiY4sGtbyq2U0LiAJvXXjDqZoApmE0kFbRPoUNtgIdtpy isPusIhVUHxuQ== Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire axles Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Contact Joe Siam..he may be up for making a set..he's with FOT RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spitfire Racing" To: "'Diesel Performance Parts - Info'" ; Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 5:48 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire axles > It's my understanding the company "Summers Brothers" has been sold a > number > of times in the past 10-15 years. What they sell today is not what was > being > offered back in the day. At one point their one piece axles were the stuff > you could put on a coffee table in the living room as art work. > > Russ Moore > Spitfire #49 > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Diesel Performance Parts - Info > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:59 AM > To: 'fot@autox.team.net' > Subject: [Fot] Spitfire axles > > I have to agree with Ed Barnard, I am the guy that bought new Summers Bros > axles on the advise of past buyers and they changed the design even again > and didn't tell me. Currently I have a old SCCA Square tail that I loved > to > race that is in 1000 pieces as the axles failed at Savannah and I did 4.5 > rolls and that was in two different left and right directions. Luckily it > was on the back part of the track vs the long last turn sweeper at WFO in > 4th gear or the slow down for the 1 corner. I might not be able to type > this > if it had been there. > I am currently converting this car to GT6 type axles with CV joints. > Hopefully it will work out great. With the GT6 stuff even if an axle > breaks > the wheel stays verticle and you can drive out of the situation safely. > > Mark Craig > Diesel Performance Parts, INC. > 411 Allied Drive > Nashville, TN 37211 > 866-455-7788 Phone > 615-834-9923 Fax > > www.dieselperformanceparts.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 17 13:23:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1454642B4A for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:23:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110E140E17 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:23:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.67]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1B93D1C0000AB for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:19:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.253.161.42] (mobile-198-228-227-187.mycingular.net [198.228.227.187]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 495BDE0000B7 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:19:56 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Bock Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:19:52 -0500 To: FoTTriumph x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358453997; bh=+xkDIMxESC95zG5Ya1YhyZSFTW8i8tNgxF/MeoJerfQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=NO0s5nsBTLP7M0SIBaOkdW/JswlmBqr92t00pCTeflKGWjNG1LBOfO8qbqUN5nXG8 O8Hmvo2XNN4KzTUPkG5NJG17ZQTeHuPscYVJyEMScv3ST6WcF4sGvPW7rr09ElVJ7t 7H4xFT55uHYFcFez89IekTyAm/UUjIDcq2u/OZdQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294350f85cec4615 Subject: [Fot] Spit gt6 diff Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici. Can a spit diff (FH) be used in a GT6? Can 2 extra studs be drilled into the case? Thanks Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 17 13:40:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F4C42B50 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:40:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AC4C40690 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:39:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.10]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 263491C00022D; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:36:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msb004a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msb004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.141]) by mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4D2B1E000088; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:36:12 -0500 (EST) References: <2c7f2.352737ae.3e28435a@cs.com>, , <8CFC2D78DC747C8-190-43E10@webmail-m185.sysops.aol.com> , <8CFC2DF4B9E111A-190-446EA@webmail-m185.sysops.aol.com> To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m083.sysops.aol.com (64.12.108.101) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:36:11 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:36:12 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358454973; bh=GgU/eDL7Q6Nop6KlSrvQALfqdgI9cMUngjEWIlzAULg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dTi7wA65Cpv8TpdyGSDwXguQOYQFxhHu2ITMSeX11KCb95QbhKRcn/d+j70O9qTi0 /bGStFJOJyPdrojSCdBulSORKFF68kpPm6Pi4+J+5q9kRmepdINFmx7zo4xRKmCqPa CmM4xtAnth9pHRW2PDvnySc9iKi40f/e5hntf4YI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290a50f860bc3060 Cc: bfcc@hotmail.co.uk Subject: [Fot] TRIUMPH WORLD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT: I just received a complimentary copy of TRIUMPH WORLD.....mentioned by Bill Dentinger, recently. It has become quite a substantial magazine. I marvel at how much goes on in the UK, regarding the TR MARQUE, when you consider a reported 90% was exported from the UK, elsewhere. John Clancy has provided a link to TRIUMPH WORLD for a digital version. (see below) John and his wife are hoping to include the KCUP 2013 in their travel plans this year. We are working on this with them. John has some amazing documentary DVDs in the works. Well worth supporting John in his efforts. check out www,triumphdvd.co.uk and the trailers. Anyway, this digital issue contains an extensive interview with Kas Kastner and a second installment will be available next month. Like I said, TRIUMPH WORLD has become a pretty meaty magazine....and you might be in it, and dont know it. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: John Clancy To: Joe Alexander Sent: Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:57 am Subject: RE: Repair Panel Installation Guide - NRP DVD Simon Goldsworthy the editor of Triumph World sent both you and Kas a copy of the mag. It's not very well known in America which is a shame. However, they recently started producing it as a download and the current issue is here - http://www.pocketmags.com/viewmagazine.aspx?titleid=662&title=Triumph+World - perhaps next time you send out an email to the FOT list it might be an idea to mention this digital version. With this issue and the next it will be entirely relevant too because Kas is in them. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 17 13:46:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB6F42B50 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:46:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A2A40453 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:45:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B62A137B for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:43:04 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:43:04 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <2c7f2.352737ae.3e28435a@cs.com>, , <8CFC2D78DC747C8-190-43E10@webmail-m185.sysops.aol.com> , <8CFC2DF4B9E111A-190-446EA@webmail-m185.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC3096BE24614-978-48AEC@webmail-m083.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] TRIUMPH WORLD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I used to subscribe, but the company that was acting as the US distributor screwed something up, I don't recall the exact circumstances. Maybe I'll get around to signing up again. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 17 13:54:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D75BD40547 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:54:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0613340545 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:54:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.138]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id D4EF71C000263; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:50:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msb004a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msb004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.141]) by mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 98E3AE000086; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:50:43 -0500 (EST) References: <2c7f2.352737ae.3e28435a@cs.com>, , <8CFC2D78DC747C8-190-43E10@webmail-m185.sysops.aol.com> , <8CFC2DF4B9E111A-190-446EA@webmail-m185.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC3096BE24614-978-48AEC@webmail-m083.sysops.aol.com> <50F86258.8000702@bradakis.com> To: mark@bradakis.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m083.sysops.aol.com (64.12.108.101) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:50:43 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:50:43 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358455843; bh=y5NJHkzc68PYSTcwUQw1lq34HKz/WfcFayClcrd9cs4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MGSbyk6BLr1IteMFXkzQHefqpEL/4bmeQSHS8ThdZGzJyYI+MHrK8bic0gNpWWust hg9DpWSfI3Lc6x9PFfYZD1kmgkBXx5v0/Ru9QgkJ77fbWj8CeHR2oM6WHajdJu+hm5 Y/Ez7Bp4L472p7j+kMd+fVA+RZcbYcFbhdUNXsbY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338a50f86423353e Subject: Re: [Fot] TRIUMPH WORLD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I had a subscription at one time and we had a US correspondent that was an FOT. I let the subscription lapse... Now, with John Clancy, we have a new connection with the magazine. I am sure he will continue to contribute to TRIUMPH WORLD. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Mark J Bradakis To: fot Sent: Thu, Jan 17, 2013 2:43 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] TRIUMPH WORLD I used to subscribe, but the company that was acting as the US distributor screwed something up, I don't recall the exact circumstances. Maybe I'll get around to signing up again. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 17 14:01:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8B642B4D for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:00:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C03940547 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:57:45 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=thU5QNwBOGS35845I5Rc9w==:17 a=02x9Fjxtek4A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=4ZN08gHlnf0A:10 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=2BiGb1UJAAAA:8 a=Zo5euW2OAAAA:8 a=AoJARd3VAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=LGs5DcpmL1_b1b2Rs_oA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=MG4Rcr4xqJIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=kaXKkGDUzfEA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=byh2Jk7HBoAA:10 a=9eCwGWfDHQ4A:10 a=t1EHQMbLHOoNf4Ob:21 a=V90e3BwfbvMwip1W:21 a=thU5QNwBOGS35845I5Rc9w==:117 Received: from [206.16.105.224] ([206.16.105.224:40599] helo=[192.38.12.36]) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 99/9C-26261-5E468F05; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:53:58 +0000 References: <2c7f2.352737ae.3e28435a@cs.com> <8CFC2D78DC747C8-190-43E10@webmail-m185.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC2DF4B9E111A-190-446EA@webmail-m185.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC3096BE24614-978-48AEC@webmail-m083.sysops.aol.com> From: Bob Kramer Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:53:55 -0600 To: Joe Alexander Cc: "bfcc@hotmail.co.uk" , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TRIUMPH WORLD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We buy the magazine and distribute them at club meetings to 9 "subscribers". That made us a dealer. We get a box every few months and collect in ) month increments. I think it is $4.50 an issue this way. It would work if you have a club with regular meetings. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 17, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > FOT: > > I just received a complimentary copy of TRIUMPH WORLD.....mentioned by Bill > Dentinger, recently. It has become quite a substantial magazine. I marvel at > how much goes on in the UK, regarding the TR MARQUE, when you consider a > reported 90% was exported from the UK, elsewhere. > > John Clancy has provided a link to TRIUMPH WORLD for a digital version. (see > below) John and his wife are hoping to include the KCUP 2013 in their travel > plans this year. We are working on this with them. John has some amazing > documentary DVDs in the works. Well worth supporting John in his efforts. > check out www,triumphdvd.co.uk and the trailers. > > Anyway, this digital issue contains an extensive interview with Kas Kastner > and a second installment will be available next month. Like I said, TRIUMPH > WORLD has become a pretty meaty magazine....and you might be in it, and dont > know it. > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Clancy > To: Joe Alexander > Sent: Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:57 am > Subject: RE: Repair Panel Installation Guide - NRP DVD > > > Simon Goldsworthy the editor of Triumph World sent both you and Kas a copy of > the mag. It's not very well known in America which is a shame. However, they > recently started producing it as a download and the current issue is here - > http://www.pocketmags.com/viewmagazine.aspx?titleid=662&title=Triumph+World - > perhaps next time you send out an email to the FOT list it might be an idea to > mention this digital version. With this issue and the next it will be > entirely relevant too because Kas is in them. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 17 17:35:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C150042B48 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:35:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF16D40E46 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:35:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130118003117.LJLK24708.mta31.charter.net@imp11> for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:31:17 -0500 Received: from [10.0.1.6] ([68.112.108.51]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id pCXG1k00Q16aBHQ05CXGke; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:31:17 -0500 a=2hRZoSXNx8WLTyjzW0iEpQ==:17 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=uCzLN1r44zsA:10 a=cXfpkgYjeqV7-XsEcg0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=2hRZoSXNx8WLTyjzW0iEpQ==:117 From: Jerry Barr Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 18:31:16 -0600 To: "fot@autox.team.net friends" Subject: [Fot] Front Shocks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 17 17:41:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC38942B17 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:41:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E7340E46 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:37:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b%11]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 18:33:33 -0600 From: "Barr, Scott" To: "jerrybarr@charter.net" , "fot@autox.team.net friends" Thread-Topic: [Fot] Front Shocks Thread-Index: Ac31E3Gb+hDPlWo18kuVzV83GjNjyQ== Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 00:33:32 +0000 References: <55425d6b-ad13-4300-821c-43cbfd42c390@blur> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US Content-ID: Subject: Re: [Fot] Front Shocks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, they are a good idea. I am all for them. Scott B. Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 www.mccarty-law.com -----Original message----- From: Jerry Barr To: "fot@autox.team.net friends" Sent: Fri, Jan 18, 2013 00:31:43 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Fot] Front Shocks _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 17 20:03:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6363E4069E for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:03:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (imr-mb02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 703F44056F for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:03:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 3E90E38000060; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:59:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dgc003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dgc003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.229.137]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0A4EFE000081; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:59:46 -0500 (EST) References: <55425d6b-ad13-4300-821c-43cbfd42c390@blur> <0d606a8e-fd20-4ae5-b8ae-df5700433587@blur> To: sbarr@McCarty-Law.com, jerrybarr@charter.net, fot@autox.team.net From: jeffwhall@aol.com Received: from 71.221.122.177 by webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com (205.188.59.132) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:59:45 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:59:45 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358477986; bh=BVXCR/95G6dTnjxjJwOp+YikcSPh50rJ9gDpcAxZ35o=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=k5FCi3jzitNCZGV4GsNhDu4VQr/vcdnQDYvkK0OE5j0kwhwm91Dye9a6LGEN2AQ4Z GcT/ukStX5gbE6Y7PVcz3BfiBbolgc94zkb0WM/v4lbx/4TaU5uwHj20w8SZVQCm3R MUoonKgy2Q/OCM409cwughDHp+tZdufh2Kj+YBIs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294850f8baa22526 Subject: [Fot] six inch wheels and dot racing tires Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hay guys, Does anyone have resources for a GT6 racing tires and six inch rims? Jeff Hall -----Original Message----- From: Barr, Scott To: jerrybarr ; fot@autox.team.net friends Sent: Thu, Jan 17, 2013 5:38 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Front Shocks Yes, they are a good idea. I am all for them. Scott B. Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 www.mccarty-law.com -----Original message----- From: Jerry Barr To: "fot@autox.team.net friends" Sent: Fri, Jan 18, 2013 00:31:43 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Fot] Front Shocks _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffwhall@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 17 20:15:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54CD4069B for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:15:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C834044D for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:12:17 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id s9so5811117iec.13 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:08:29 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:reply-to:x-priority:references :in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date :content-type:mime-version:x-gm-message-state; bh=VMi5HDp5gQXh+eR50XbBlJX/j6Jtur0LCAO7tlAqA8M=; b=UlPVi9/U7VOZJ1lVYIDHCY88bUsC3daRrXvemZ0WDdFUG6CDJQNKLLeTU4WKeI4LO6 /ZuPit+D3aujJRLn29jYzNqx/BRLEzZ6hE2jl/lefq/4xz39eP3JtwE6LglyaZB2S+qZ HFLyftt0A44SGSC/tdcXB88Nuk+JMiPawVvaYxRhpLM/tjlXZ/4N41xM7hYZbLv4lbuR 8gvS9nC4hhd6fY5wOjov5q9WlhQ6I3f9stCiBHLlqnICT7s3y1zKses4ymCoINMWm7hO 8ruhZWGnjputeAJyVTyy15xFrnNvXO5vA1Y2P8rTXWS40P4P3gckxQP8elA6AHRWuFJn hRXQ== pb3mr909070igc.0.1358478509059; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:08:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.29.196.189 (bda-74-82-80-182.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ww6sm954355igb.2.2013.01.17.19.08.27 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:08:27 -0800 (PST) References: <55425d6b-ad13-4300-821c-43cbfd42c390@blur> <0d606a8e-fd20-4ae5-b8ae-df5700433587@blur> <8CFC33F01881157-84C-390DC@webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com> Sensitivity: Normal To: jeffwhall@aol.com, fot-bounces@autox.team.net, sbarr@McCarty-Law.com, jerrybarr@charter.net, fot@autox.team.net From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 03:08:26 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] six inch wheels and dot racing tires Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hoosier tires... They have 3 or 4 regional distributors for street T.D.S and panasport wheels have 2 different backspacing options (talked w someone there last year). Both have easy info websites. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: jeffwhall@aol.com To: ; ; Subject: [Fot] six inch wheels and dot racing tires Hay guys, Does anyone have resources for a GT6 racing tires and six inch rims? Jeff Hall -----Original Message----- From: Barr, Scott To: jerrybarr ; fot@autox.team.net friends Sent: Thu, Jan 17, 2013 5:38 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Front Shocks Yes, they are a good idea. I am all for them. Scott B. Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 www.mccarty-law.com -----Original message----- From: Jerry Barr To: "fot@autox.team.net friends" Sent: Fri, Jan 18, 2013 00:31:43 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Fot] Front Shocks _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffwhall@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 17 20:47:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8136A40E01 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:47:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm22.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm22.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.149]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D724056A for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:43:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.100] by nm22.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 03:40:00 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.84] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 03:40:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1021.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 03:40:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 89711 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jan 2013 03:40:00 -0000 s=s1024; t=1358480399; bh=P0kc1TwiM3d7LY6mDqAwFEEMf9rhgdx6diiOBuml6jo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mt9H43nWKTOS/e+2ofMb0WwwDo+xGT3Pw+U66QgEftB3MvJBQlACkF8ocDD/ofw1ocHMNLCvNB2C4EJ7mEBQUdohEAhut+9RwwYDVoSCeAEDaisqfoQWUINterFXtastF1APtHkrWqtUM2VToKcjoVaK/te47jVsZiQ3MTWNkhU= s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Gw6TeZqxcIZx+5/NlMBsRG2Hjmt7A2WLhb/J2Jxk2DB3HR9BJ8PMWTHeYxGnlZeDZ6eam93rujozOgjsE+OkHEak5/zV6Vu1bOiVbTKh4NE3glePUS22CcM4rBhrMJ+n+i5PzbGFVxAt2hppLardGout20DnLwL6RUiUKGm80Ho=; LG3pm7ZfR5ch2Wbr0uVR45UKCGmCuXkiU86eLxpEJs3PsdUo2fxODAScSYWI ctxOuAX7Onk8E1byyJ0OsETtGYdCr4RNB7RFI67liRYKjiPV6Tgbk4qlGemJ BrwGRvVvZLYGAefb5t974ZWoXPJ3.qBJ7hwRh0JGPawoehZ7YF_n6IX2hRw7 vNz9Edpq3B7iw_34AqwOLSrGGLWb5r64VeUeO0A_pJSgriT.4pPeShgDUMmO IzCy9mzvqGRBGJMUysy4S5kM0IaoA61kjnU6f7Y6_3k4x7kR9a.slDrbMOrc st36U.wi5.sWAEk8HZbAKQrMQGyebUvJcY8UgNuZcR6rp6oHBRylieQdXmxT kRHFc7P167Lhzk2GU9kTMLxvocYUGzh2HfSiDWWERgua_oXUACkU2PRfx_MA rpZ3UtmGFX_cVeBnC_xok2jmxUe_l94ZhP5GOc4ZpDpC1XcawkOQuqq97NXx hZDD77zkqczPY9g3exyBMg9OlmC7Z9OwStzqXJEYA43PO7F1OxHByJ9vc_Ww x9YPMFzFMQGsT0xLM61I.5ri6bkKP6lGsaU5BTcusZGinwg.H4cazaYjDLBu hR.6Eod.5WNgFjAS7hdBAJzTjkaNOVgtad2s7d0JjZqteXYFdz5i66rhcAY1 uMubfu9iJxrI8yi3E4MP3dOAetMqLbl3AAHrxMRtR13jvwr20VKvgQkjUNuT 39zQXR_5eUHYTSRm8ZeEiSIkxTbpqihIjIsbMgGPcf2areET_5iU.gx0UCc4 92HJpje_C_E8GGTgh Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web181403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:39:59 PST UnVzczoNCsKgIMKgWWVzLCBhcyB5b3Ugc2FpZCB0aGV5IGhhdmUgY2hhbmdlZCBoYW5kcy4uLm1hbnkgdGltZXMuIFdoZW4gSSBkZXNpZ25lZCB0aGVtIGFmdGVyIG91ciBtZWV0IGF0IE1PIGluIDIwMDIsIE1ycyBTdW1tZXJzIHN0aWxsIG93bmVkIHRoZSBjb21wYW55LCBhbmQgcmV0YWluZWQgaXQgdGhyb3VnaCB0aGUgZmlyc3QgdHdvIG9yIHRocmVlIG9yZGVycy4gQWZ0ZXIgdGhhdCBpdCB3ZW50IHRvIGFub3RoZXIgZ3JvdXAgd2hvbSBJIGhhZCBubyBwcm9ibGVtIGdldHRpbmcgZ29vZCBwcm9kdWN0IGYBMAEBAQE- Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:39:59 -0800 (PST) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: 'Diesel Performance Parts - Info' , fot@autox.team.net, Spitfire Racing Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire axles Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Russ: Yes, as you said they have changed hands...many times. When I designed them after our meet at MO in 2002, Mrs Summers still owned the company, and retained it through the first two or three orders. After that it went to another group whom I had no problem getting good product from. After them, in about 2006, it went to two guys with manufacturing backgrounds. It was at this time that things started to fall apart. It took about 6-8 months to get the last pair from these guys. It may have sold again since then. Just to clarify things; Summers can build good stuff. When Joe Siam started with his design, about the same time I was trying to get the last pair, Joe was bringing his design out. His axles were being made by Summers, and we were competing for production time. I don't know if Joe still uses Summers to make the axles for his conversion, but, the axles were not the weak point of my design. It was the bearing change. Besides, Joe's axles are designed with a much greater safety margin. The axles I designed filled a need until someone was willing to jump in with something better. -Ed- --- On Thu, 1/17/13, Spitfire Racing wrote: From: Spitfire Racing Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire axles To: "'Diesel Performance Parts - Info'" , fot@autox.team.net Date: Thursday, January 17, 2013, 7:48 AM It's my understanding the company "Summers Brothers" has been sold a number of times in the past 10-15 years. What they sell today is not what was being offered back in the day. At one point their one piece axles were the stuff you could put on a coffee table in the living room as art work. Russ Moore Spitfire #49 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Diesel Performance Parts - Info Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:59 AM To: 'fot@autox.team.net' Subject: [Fot] Spitfire axles I have to agree with Ed Barnard, I am the guy that bought new Summers Bros axles on the advise of past buyers and they changed the design even again and didn't tell me. Currently I have a old SCCA Square tail that I loved to race that is in 1000 pieces as the axles failed at Savannah and I did 4.5 rolls and that was in two different left and right directions. Luckily it was on the back part of the track vs the long last turn sweeper at WFO in 4th gear or the slow down for the 1 corner. I might not be able to type this if it had been there. I am currently converting this car to GT6 type axles with CV joints. Hopefully it will work out great. With the GT6 stuff even if an axle breaks the wheel stays verticle and you can drive out of the situation safely. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, INC. 411 Allied Drive Nashville, TN 37211 866-455-7788 Phone 615-834-9923 Fax www.dieselperformanceparts.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 17 21:10:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF104069D for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:10:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF214055C for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:10:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.71]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id p0s41k00B1Y3wxoA1G6gJH; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:06:40 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id pG6f1k00C2vctGa8bG6f0H; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:06:40 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "EDWARD BARNARD" , "'Diesel Performance Parts - Info'" , , "Spitfire Racing" References: <1358480399.81989.YahooMailClassic@web181403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:06:39 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1358482000; bh=ocFIu+shcg1XCfgFtNQvqDmLHLrH8n+5EzIVjv20ZVA=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jgPmdRcwNOwXPNNQDWCoy3UcgZwRUnQkiINjUQNkpXUg+DNgJoxfCRydKkDOI4ULz bS15mbRvWhXiP7AHj4OCWp+WXjJ2g/edUAsqUgFVElE1RWbzBCPfEGoAU/A9FFoJGh 7XLjkYtw2wLX7hNkfvURQcdY/ok2NN5tGPtmMiRT3IXIsUDT0okX6Ubc1e1RpVIoPS lAE3QemfOFRcN6E/eP4f/3Pbz4tIMPjuoHlR8M5hM5PVWZzmStc3ph+6d0QfDa66Du TVKzE+K+dWKKLRh6maJLcPqWvtcBgnrTLRQhUsnDlOoPnaWNzjdBzLLN2NZy8lXMdd 8KEbJYliyrw7g== Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire axles Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net When i got mine from Joe Siam he told me that lubing before each race weekend is extreemely important. RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "EDWARD BARNARD" To: "'Diesel Performance Parts - Info'" ; ; "Spitfire Racing" Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire axles > Russ: > Yes, as you said they have changed hands...many times. When I designed > them > after our meet at MO in 2002, Mrs Summers still owned the company, and > retained it through the first two or three orders. After that it went to > another group whom I had no problem getting good product from. After them, > in > about 2006, it went to two guys with manufacturing backgrounds. It was at > this > time that things started to fall apart. It took about 6-8 months to get > the > last pair from these guys. It may have sold again since then. > Just to clarify things; Summers can build good stuff. When Joe Siam > started > with his design, about the same time I was trying to get the last pair, > Joe > was bringing his design out. His axles were being made by Summers, and we > were > competing for production time. I don't know if Joe still uses Summers to > make > the axles for his conversion, but, the axles were not the weak point of my > design. It was the bearing change. Besides, Joe's axles are designed with > a > much greater safety margin. The axles I designed filled a need until > someone > was willing to jump in with something better. > -Ed- > > > --- On Thu, 1/17/13, Spitfire Racing wrote: > > > From: Spitfire Racing > Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire axles > To: "'Diesel Performance Parts - Info'" , > fot@autox.team.net > Date: Thursday, January 17, 2013, 7:48 AM > > > It's my understanding the company "Summers Brothers" has been sold a > number > of times in the past 10-15 years. What they sell today is not what was > being > offered back in the day. At one point their one piece axles were the stuff > you could put on a coffee table in the living room as art work. > > Russ Moore > Spitfire #49 > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Diesel Performance Parts - Info > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:59 AM > To: 'fot@autox.team.net' > Subject: [Fot] Spitfire axles > > I have to agree with Ed Barnard, I am the guy that bought new Summers Bros > axles on the advise of past buyers and they changed the design even again > and didn't tell me. Currently I have a old SCCA Square tail that I loved > to > race that is in 1000 pieces as the axles failed at Savannah and I did 4.5 > rolls and that was in two different left and right directions. Luckily it > was on the back part of the track vs the long last turn sweeper at WFO in > 4th gear or the slow down for the 1 corner. I might not be able to type > this > if it had been there. > I am currently converting this car to GT6 type axles with CV joints. > Hopefully it will work out great. With the GT6 stuff even if an axle > breaks > the wheel stays verticle and you can drive out of the situation safely. > > Mark Craig > Diesel Performance Parts, INC. > 411 Allied Drive > Nashville, TN 37211 > 866-455-7788 Phone > 615-834-9923 Fax > > www.dieselperformanceparts.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 18 07:24:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4255440E2C for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:24:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s12.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s12.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.87]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52F4A406AD for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:21:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU154-W30 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s12.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 06:17:49 -0800 From: Charles WATSON To: FOT List Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:17:49 -0500 References: <55425d6b-ad13-4300-821c-43cbfd42c390@blur>, <0d606a8e-fd20-4ae5-b8ae-df5700433587@blur>, <8CFC33F01881157-84C-390DC@webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com> FILETIME=[985989C0:01CDF586] Subject: Re: [Fot] six inch wheels and dot racing tires Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Check out Acme Speed Shop, here in Greenville SC. They are a dealer for VTO and can custom order or have a stock fitting. I know the owner (Hap) and he is a well known MG vintage racer. www.acmespeedshop.com Thanks, Chuck Watson > To: sbarr@McCarty-Law.com; jerrybarr@charter.net; fot@autox.team.net > From: jeffwhall@aol.com > Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:59:45 -0500 > Subject: [Fot] six inch wheels and dot racing tires > > Hay guys, > > Does anyone have resources for a GT6 racing tires and six inch rims? > > Jeff Hall > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barr, Scott > To: jerrybarr ; fot@autox.team.net friends > > Sent: Thu, Jan 17, 2013 5:38 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Front Shocks > > > Yes, they are a good idea. I am all for them. > > Scott B. > > Scott Barr > McCarty Law LLP > (920) 257-2233 > www.mccarty-law.com > > > -----Original message----- > From: Jerry Barr > To: "fot@autox.team.net friends" > Sent: Fri, Jan 18, 2013 00:31:43 GMT+00:00 > Subject: [Fot] Front Shocks > > > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffwhall@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/clw2000@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 18 07:29:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C6B40E2C for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:29:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C06D4044C for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:29:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.134]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A441A1C00007B; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:25:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.253.161.42] (mobile-198-228-227-187.mycingular.net [198.228.227.187]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 17925E0000B9; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:25:44 -0500 (EST) References: <55425d6b-ad13-4300-821c-43cbfd42c390@blur> <0d606a8e-fd20-4ae5-b8ae-df5700433587@blur> <8CFC33F01881157-84C-390DC@webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com> From: Christopher Bock Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:25:39 -0500 To: Charles WATSON x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358519145; bh=qHRCC07uy03yGgRzbX3cAaOGLOaQQ2An/rxETNxGtGo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=dUcheUSLF7KPyQt924X+PXezwDYWZ5O7H+cK24GkOdaAvY7s/gHN9geXyoOiscaJM UDTxNARfje/eAhjEafZJOR7mxa6teIw+lRMTDqKedCrjytUe/5MHuGFroLPCMIWIln JU62bjS/AbQyGG6yFS4m8zL7QuSRHtDeHItHTw2U= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338650f95b676c76 Cc: FOT List Subject: Re: [Fot] six inch wheels and dot racing tires Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici Just say I was going to use joes rear axles and aluminum hubs for the front of my spit. Would it be easier to change the bolt pattern to a more common pattern to be able to use more accessible rims? If so what would the bolt pattern be? Chris On Jan 18, 2013, at 9:17 AM, Charles WATSON wrote: > Check out Acme Speed Shop, here in Greenville SC. They are a dealer for VTO > and can custom order or have a stock fitting. I know the owner (Hap) and he > is a well known MG vintage racer. www.acmespeedshop.com > > > > > Thanks, > > Chuck Watson > > > > > > > > > > > >> To: sbarr@McCarty-Law.com; jerrybarr@charter.net; fot@autox.team.net >> From: jeffwhall@aol.com >> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:59:45 -0500 >> Subject: [Fot] six inch wheels and dot racing tires >> >> Hay guys, >> >> Does anyone have resources for a GT6 racing tires and six inch rims? >> >> Jeff Hall >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Barr, Scott >> To: jerrybarr ; fot@autox.team.net friends >> >> Sent: Thu, Jan 17, 2013 5:38 pm >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Front Shocks >> >> >> Yes, they are a good idea. I am all for them. >> >> Scott B. >> >> Scott Barr >> McCarty Law LLP >> (920) 257-2233 >> www.mccarty-law.com >> >> >> -----Original message----- >> From: Jerry Barr >> To: "fot@autox.team.net friends" >> Sent: Fri, Jan 18, 2013 00:31:43 GMT+00:00 >> Subject: [Fot] Front Shocks >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffwhall@aol.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/clw2000@msn.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 18 07:40:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A13140E1A for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:40:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta41.charter.net (mta41.charter.net [216.33.127.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2EA6400A5; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:36:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130118143226.FCPR10143.mta41.charter.net@imp09>; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:32:26 -0500 Received: from wt06 ([209.225.8.46]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id pSYR1k00S0zbdDt05SYRns; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:32:25 -0500 a=7MFzD3oQAcKNZ2aU1u214w==:17 a=mLpzIj-KqYkA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=nfxIad59zosA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=H4ynuwwDwDMA:10 a=b4TgfONAAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=MJIo3LPEAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=zB4vc1ZGVFbldTjWNk0A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=LPw0h76ZFAwA:10 a=ba-_3Pl-r2EA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=kp3uRgNowesA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=IeVFYImMg6QA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=8t5xQ1N6U5sZnswi:21 a=xCG5EZuqRRH5LqNQ:21 a=7MFzD3oQAcKNZ2aU1u214w==:117 Received: from [68.191.147.145] by enhanced.charter.net with HTTP; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:32:25 -0500 Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:32:25 -0500 (EST) From: jkhagen@charter.net To: jason@multivintage.com User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: fot-bounces@autox.team.net, fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] six inch wheels and dot racing tires Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net GT-6 People--The front spindle shafts on the GT-6 are different [beefier] than even TR-3-4. Has anyone have to upgrade these? Make any sense to machine outer part of the shaft to accept TR-4 bearing and use TR-4 hubs etc etc. Would be similar to the re-inforcing sleeve concept. Have seen it done through my TVR experience. Comments? John Hagen On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 9:08 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > Hoosier tires... They have 3 or 4 regional distributors for street > T.D.S and panasport wheels have 2 different backspacing options > (talked w someone there last year). Both have easy info websites. > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: jeffwhall@aol.com > Sender: fot-bounces@autox.team.netDate: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:59:45 To: > ; ; > Subject: [Fot] six inch wheels and dot racing tires > > Hay guys, > > Does anyone have resources for a GT6 racing tires and six inch rims? > > Jeff Hall > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barr, Scott > To: jerrybarr ; fot@autox.team.net friends > > Sent: Thu, Jan 17, 2013 5:38 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Front Shocks > > > Yes, they are a good idea. I am all for them. > > Scott B. > > Scott Barr > McCarty Law LLP > (920) 257-2233 > www.mccarty-law.com > > > -----Original message----- > From: Jerry Barr > To: "fot@autox.team.net friends" > Sent: Fri, Jan 18, 2013 00:31:43 GMT+00:00 > Subject: [Fot] Front Shocks > > > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffwhall@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 18 10:34:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A72A42B61 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:34:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF6840E42 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:34:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b%11]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 11:30:57 -0600 From: "Barr, Scott" To: FOT List Thread-Topic: Triumph GT6 front springs and shocks Thread-Index: AQHN9Za4c6+cHCMunESkMg840GBK7JhPTqQA Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:30:56 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Subject: [Fot] FW: Triumph GT6 front springs and shocks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Dad seems to be having some trouble posting to the list at the moment. Here's what he wanted to ask: "I am rebuilding the front shocks and springs on my #59 Red 68 GT6 What are you GT6 guys using?" Editor's Note: Dad's rebuilding the suspension on his GT6 racer, last revised in 2002. He's got in hand a set of Carrera shocks (adjustable ride-height fronts and regular rears) which are worn out and has investigated the replacement of just the shock component. It appears that's fairly expensive. He's also got a set of Spax shocks, again ride-height adjustable in front. But the Carrera springs may not work with the Spax spring seat. Anyway, he's looking for opinions on what's out there now for GT6s. Scott B. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 18 17:08:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8CE242B78 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:08:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm2-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm2-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.158]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E14840EA9 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:07:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.107] by nm2.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jan 2013 00:04:02 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.240] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jan 2013 00:04:02 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp111.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jan 2013 00:04:02 -0000 oeWI2TjAWHBxuAXxMzB7xRZkflT2wDSNK.MpV5KzC_wibY7iXcsesnh286pO RMYK6.NFKZQwJPdvA2BOEiCN5jVBEy0WW82lE2HCVlI4dnbY4KJiZaASZELK ZZuTH5AKSswLauctWWYZ2WemEHD_K1ORkyxz5p7DeTsM0BOxaxFe1cL3pEdq 1bJzSVh3fkLwexOddwAeMrIy8QlBXZdzAEHPAxsaWBR4scyd47_z5sQ6ypRG Qjsn_Ir2yCJ5EVRK6hr4RN3s_TstcHA8moHPTmPK2uyq3F8tINEJYnoi3JHt 2heMKMFzuxcTtfaOXUL1oLnHf0CBM2gADkSe5HGjOu0RaNaXG9qsEFbd4EvF LHZjU1UXmxvXlbn.CVR5zBUtR0jaqBG3VIDifC5T4arbQ14rMozvtSogwm0q aLAfwCEXYMzJ10x9.ZAIV Received: from [192.168.1.77] (cartravel@99.98.59.54 with plain) by smtp111.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Jan 2013 16:04:02 -0800 PST Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:04:10 -0600 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <1358361586.84929.YahooMailNeo@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8CFC23146A582E2-1260-3CF96@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com> <8DE5CCD8-E981-4BB5-B3CF-664D76D8BE94@aol.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Stickers, grill badge, digest email Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I bought a couple of grill badges during the original offering. Now that my TR250 is restored, I'm ready to mount one and can't decide how I should do it. Do you have any examples (photos) or suggestions for mounting these badges. I want to give FoT maximum exposure on this beautiful TR250. Larry On 1/16/2013 1:55 PM, Christopher Bock wrote: > I do still have badges and flags. Hit me up off list and I will get them to > you. > > > Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 19 12:41:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABCBE4246C for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 12:41:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s26.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s26.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.101]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68C240528 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 12:40:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU172-W19 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s26.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 19 Jan 2013 11:37:00 -0800 From: Rich Rock To: "fot@autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 14:37:00 -0500 References: <7bf77dbb.374424.13c4e133083.Webtop.46@charter.net> FILETIME=[59D6CF40:01CDF67C] Subject: Re: [Fot] six inch wheels and dot racing tires Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net John, The only use of GT6 front axles I have seen on a TVR was done on the earlier (pre-1972) models, and it required use of a GT6 vertical link and custom-made hubs to accomodate the 4x4-1/2" pattern (same as big TR) on the wheels. Gt6 axles are larger diameter, even in the tapered section which fits in the upright, and they won't fit in the Spitfire/Herald uprights used on the (pre-72) Vixens and Granturas . They won't go in the TR6 upright used on the post-1972 TVR's either. Through the 60's and 70's used the Tr4-6 front axles and hubs. Most interesting is that those front axles fit in the Herald/Spitfire uprights! I suppose if a GT6 driver wanted to use a wheel with a 4-1/2" bolt circle instead of the stock 3-3/4" they might consider trying to adapt a TR4-6 front hub. Is that what you have seen done? Rich Rock > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:32:25 -0500 > From: jkhagen@charter.net > To: jason@multivintage.com > CC: fot-bounces@autox.team.net; fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] six inch wheels and dot racing tires > > GT-6 People--The front spindle shafts on the GT-6 are different > [beefier] than even TR-3-4. Has anyone have to upgrade these? Make > any sense to machine outer part of the shaft to accept TR-4 bearing and > use TR-4 hubs etc etc. Would be similar to the re-inforcing sleeve > concept. Have seen it done through my TVR experience. Comments? John > Hagen > > . _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 20 11:07:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A56424A3 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:07:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C453040355 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:07:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B5CC41C0000B2 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:03:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msa003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.73]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 89C4DE000086 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:03:01 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.89) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:03:01 -0500 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:03:01 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358704981; bh=pqDBk3hJk8sggL8z1trto1V2AMaUrBIKAqAb0xSIAq4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=A+KsG5tAJM87coQjm/uyoP47WT4JYyPJaJHC/WuKqmEkbsOX8KM1jyvjivF8k8bJ/ Sgjs7kymWVdRpWUdWIheWBzi7ELCRNs2YPDKjB59II3VkaAQdp0o0E8fsOABr5pFgM PrL5YGTrn8sSD7nWHn9d0GKZHSPd5RcjfWT4De+0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c50fc3155728f Subject: [Fot] FOT DECALS-AVAILABLE THE FOT "COAT OF ARMS" a matter of pride. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT, I went to 'SIGNS BY TOMORROW' and got a quote for 100 3" x 3" FOT surface mount decals. I sense there is a pent up demand for decals......and would like to address this. TWO DECALS for $10.00 delivered......$3.00 for each additional decal. A bargain. Give me your address and quantity. I will send right away. It's up to you to get me the cash for the FOT account. I have bubble pak envelopes ready and fill and address...... while I am watching Speed Channel. This week would be a good week to do it......You can make checks to FOT. We have a non-organization account. BTW, while I was at SIGNS BY TOMORROW, I inquired about a sign showing the names of the folks who are "sponsoring" the 2013 Kastner Cup. For about $25 I can get a very nice weather proof sign with a wire stand to push into the ground. If you are a "commercial" entity and your business benefits from the FRIENDS OF TRIUMPH in some way, you may want to make an 'unsolicited contribution' and get your name on this sign......any funds not expended in 2013 will rollover to 2014. Right now I have about 21 private individuals who have made a contribution to the Kastner Cup Series. Joe Alexander F.O.T. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 20 12:55:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4DB440525 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 12:55:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A9CF403E9 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 12:55:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b%11]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:51:19 -0600 From: "Barr, Scott" To: "fot@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: Need Help Thread-Index: Ac33R4NeW8bOZ+9YuUeSj3D1tEhruw== Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:51:18 +0000 References: <84cb8b49-9a08-4a23-b25b-33435a817ac0@blur> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US Content-ID: Cc: "rhgjr944@new.rr.com" Subject: [Fot] Fw: Need Help Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Afternoon all, See below request for a copy of the current Victory Lane magazine. Anybody care to give up their copy when they're done with it? This one has a Road America ad on the inside of the front cover featuring a beloved 944. Scott B. Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 www.mccarty-law.com -----Original message----- From: "rhgjr944@new.rr.com" To: "bnbsnive@charter.net" , "john.jung@comcast.net" , "john.krebs@jsdinc.com" , "esandsnes@royaloakengineering.com" , "dan.nicotera@dresser.com" , "racefiesta@yahoo.com" , "gail.woelfle@tdstelecom.com" , "woody_53@charter.net" , "racefiesta@yahoo.com" , "fanghornforest@gmail.com" , "RSandsnes@glhec.org" , "mbsam@tds.net" , "cooper@tbc.net" , "cricket3skd@comcast.net" , "2jw9boldt1@comcast.net" <2jw9boldt1@comcast.net>, "Barr, Scott" , "jsnively@charter.net" , "REWoelfle@gmail.com" , "saccameno@aol.com" , "kwpw@charter.net" , "garygret@sbcglobal.net" , "rakowski@facstaff.wisc.edu" , "jjbraatz@charter.net" , "racestaffer@yahoo.com" , "robin131@centurytel.net" , "martinwjus@sbcglobal.net" , "A1Dave@centurytel.net" , "robin131@centurytel.net" , "teutter@sbcglobal.net" , "dnicoter@voyager.net" , "ray.jackson.madison@gmail.com" , "pamartin@macneil.com" Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 18:41:46 GMT+00:00 Subject: Need Help Hi all- I found out from the guy who bought the ARMS Motorsports collection, Matt Jenson, that there is an ad for Road America on the inside front cover of the current Victory Lane magazine that has a picture of the ARMS flagship red 944 in it. Matt doesn't want to give up his copy, and I have checked the local bookstores with no luck. Does anyone get this mag, and would you be willing to give it up? Or know where I might get my hands on a copy? Thanks, Rick _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 20 13:23:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A53424C7 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:23:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.56]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A414249A for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:18:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qL0H1k0010EPchoA6LEmJQ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:14:46 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qLEm1k00H2yr1eL8MLEmlL; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:14:46 +0000 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:14:46 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Fot@autox.team.net s=q20121106; t=1358712886; bh=JbzTkyDp80MTlAT0+NpDz9368Gw0LK6AF7kJ6Di1ax8=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=sJPSTUBLxhcU2U/OZOzLrUg5X0BZw5LkkesJh4sh9fy9O0TmJSDZP37mDMgGPsxTi 86936sG2ovgUZ7qjedNGB42XYnC7pCBxa8fk1jRrtdFAW6gKaPqRUA8GxoME3xIQpx ZZiS9xvJMkFZl2Gav9gSgtDGLJarm8i5ObyPP73578Emy4CXRg6JorSFSoHdQO+alm rKby+yuONA4Oh7IHNI9wLrSh+JwdtZCZoVBvXuvFTySO1M5s5tmn9ApCXUb2L/FwCg 4EtkqUTPhkk2Y2EumyXJPpcTUPKI2a1CKXDYe0eZU1IDuJf/QhSOy7Ahh0WxkR7GbH DS75m6kFi7H1w== Subject: [Fot] TR3 lives again! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, I'm excited to share with you the news that my TR3 is finally together and running. As far as I know it hasn't run since 1975 and the restoration/ race car build has taken me a long 57 months. I have a few small details to attend to before I can drive it, but I made it through the initial start up and break-in period last Friday night with the much needed assistance of Greg Solow. It started instantly, ran great and sounds amazing. Thanks again Greg. I have been honored to have Greg standing by and sharing his expertise during the most important steps of the motor build and he worked some real magic with carb tuning during the start up. Oh, the things that I have learned. I would of course like to thank to all my Friends of Triumph for the encouragement, inspiration and sharing of much needed parts and information during this process. I would really be lost without you all and may have never made it to this point. I love my TR, Dave H. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 20 14:00:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87DFC4249E for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:00:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E49424041C for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:00:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1CBDE1C000073 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:56:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msa003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.73]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 9C737E000082 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:56:10 -0500 (EST) References: <188a5.37faa845.3e283b05@cs.com> <8CFC263E776554F-1260-41500@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC33A6741096B-C48-4912C@webmail-d142.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC33EB1A9B23C-C48-4937B@webmail-d142.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC551243DE8AA-1C6C-1D477@webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC5638E3BFF63-1C6C-1DDC3@webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com> To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.89) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:56:10 -0500 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:56:10 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358715371; bh=XFAjhfhEyjo/mADvmETNQSmqbexwMDjuxcLAa/nDVNI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lRIhm5RO04TZ5MuEX2TPQwdGsYMnNa/Lbc2CsZMtHa2+knGjzzsLLrtnL/lwbMlRC qUshqpl72xK6YVsBqPKVUuPVtQ+Dfixno1U5lJhUOGGniC088ZMX9uW4/nBube+liM mqvqrbLbxUoo2HKYHFIS1IYQD6LEurAkdvznR7kc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb50fc59ea654c Subject: [Fot] A non-candidate for non-membership what to do? help! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT: I just turned this guy down, a few minutes ago. You can see it below. I got a gracious response and a desire to make a donation. He did a total teardown and rebuild of a TR4 in recent history and he has all four of Kas' recent books. I have made exceptions to the 'competition rule' in the past where we have thought there was the potential for contribution. Read BELOW and tell us all what you think. Thanks, Joe A -----Original Message----- From: Michael Haberthur To: Joe Alexander Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 2:42 pm Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer Raced a Tariq years ago at some local races in CA. Club stuff. I was putting myself through college and spending the next 26 years defending our country. How is that for a naked plug!! LOL!! No money early and no time later other than as a spectator. I guess I'm trying to catch up on lost time. Thanks anyway. Can I support the organization with a donation. I think it is a wonderful group supporting Triumphs. On Jan 20, 2013 12:26 PM, "Joe Alexander" wrote: have you had any connections with TRIUMPH COMPETITION in the past. i have had enormous pressure from a group of people to stay the course on the original 'charter'. we have had exceptions with professional mechanics, journalists, etc. thanks for being interested...... Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Michael Haberthur To: Joe Alexander Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6D340531 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:17:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from ex.dunnwalshholdings.com (unknown [173.219.117.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1197F40528 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:17:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::6cea:93a1:26a:8c3c]) by TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::6cea:93a1:26a:8c3c%15]) with mapi; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:12:58 -0800 From: Edward Dunn To: Joe Alexander Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:12:54 -0800 Thread-Topic: [Fot] A non-candidate for non-membership what to do? help! Thread-Index: Ac33UuuFu82AWuuJTr6zbrYKM9kXrg== References: <188a5.37faa845.3e283b05@cs.com> <8CFC263E776554F-1260-41500@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC33A6741096B-C48-4912C@webmail-d142.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC33EB1A9B23C-C48-4937B@webmail-d142.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC551243DE8AA-1C6C-1D477@webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC5638E3BFF63-1C6C-1DDC3@webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC567B59699BA-1C6C-1DFC0@webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] A non-candidate for non-membership what to do? help! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I tend to think in terms of increasing interest in Triumph competition. At car shows I like to encourage folks to sit in our cars, touch them and even start them up. I'm interested in getting more folks interested regardless of whether they currently race or not. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2013, at 12:56 PM, "Joe Alexander" wrote: > FOT: > > I just turned this guy down, a few minutes ago. You can see it below. I got > a gracious response and a desire to make a donation. He did a total teardown > and rebuild of a TR4 in recent history and he has all four of Kas' recent > books. > > I have made exceptions to the 'competition rule' in the past where we have > thought there was the potential for contribution. > > Read BELOW and tell us all what you think. Thanks, Joe A > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Haberthur > To: Joe Alexander > Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 2:42 pm > Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer > > > Raced a Tariq years ago at some local races in CA. Club stuff. I was putting > myself through college and spending the next 26 years defending our country. > How is that for a naked plug!! LOL!! No money early and no time later other > than as a spectator. I guess I'm trying to catch up on lost time. Thanks > anyway. Can I support the organization with a donation. I think it is a > wonderful group supporting Triumphs. > > On Jan 20, 2013 12:26 PM, "Joe Alexander" wrote: > > have you had any connections with TRIUMPH COMPETITION in the past. > > i have had enormous pressure from a group of people to stay the course on the > original 'charter'. > > we have had exceptions with professional mechanics, journalists, etc. > > thanks for being interested...... > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Haberthur > To: Joe Alexander Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 1:42 pm > Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer > > OK I know I'm pushing i... > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 20 14:28:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF964069C for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:28:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (imr-mb01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.164]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0996940422 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:28:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.131]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 49D161C000114; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:24:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.237.174.38] (mobile-198-228-226-145.mycingular.net [198.228.226.145]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 534F4E000126; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:24:08 -0500 (EST) References: <188a5.37faa845.3e283b05@cs.com> <8CFC263E776554F-1260-41500@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC33A6741096B-C48-4912C@webmail-d142.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC33EB1A9B23C-C48-4937B@webmail-d142.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC551243DE8AA-1C6C-1D477@webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC5638E3BFF63-1C6C-1DDC3@w ebmail-m006.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC567B59699BA-1C6C-1DFC0@webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com> <372C7FCD-ADCC-4EBF-BD20-EB0B8B8E4514@qualityfueltrailers.com> From: Christopher Bock Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:24:00 -0500 To: Edward Dunn x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358717050; bh=aFMsY5cEotFu2DupNY+VWD1az0k6vsIRtmazLn/mKPU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=iMAGzVJzjJ5w7BIEK7o2BqTGHZBOnmncusbC4fJMkG/cDsV0FW+pQrrQF2rmi9Aqy at8CnXT6fsMUR9m67aisWUaulVoHV5iDCZzjsAq1hwB1imj+ajairpP9mGiAC20GJ4 JQcUzShpgBdeZ9YuipACHJ1kDauitrahow7DxPDM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338350fc60784bf3 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] A non-candidate for non-membership what to do? help! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I think that if he is allowed to join he will eventually get into a TR. Chris On Jan 20, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Edward Dunn wrote: > I tend to think in terms of increasing interest in Triumph competition. At car > shows I like to encourage folks to sit in our cars, touch them and even start > them up. I'm interested in getting more folks interested regardless of > whether they currently race or not. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 20, 2013, at 12:56 PM, "Joe Alexander" wrote: > >> FOT: >> >> I just turned this guy down, a few minutes ago. You can see it below. I > got >> a gracious response and a desire to make a donation. He did a total > teardown >> and rebuild of a TR4 in recent history and he has all four of Kas' recent >> books. >> >> I have made exceptions to the 'competition rule' in the past where we have >> thought there was the potential for contribution. >> >> Read BELOW and tell us all what you think. Thanks, Joe A >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Michael Haberthur >> To: Joe Alexander >> Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 2:42 pm >> Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer >> >> >> Raced a Tariq years ago at some local races in CA. Club stuff. I was > putting >> myself through college and spending the next 26 years defending our > country. >> How is that for a naked plug!! LOL!! No money early and no time later other >> than as a spectator. I guess I'm trying to catch up on lost time. Thanks >> anyway. Can I support the organization with a donation. I think it is a >> wonderful group supporting Triumphs. >> >> On Jan 20, 2013 12:26 PM, "Joe Alexander" wrote: >> >> have you had any connections with TRIUMPH COMPETITION in the past. >> >> i have had enormous pressure from a group of people to stay the course on > the >> original 'charter'. >> >> we have had exceptions with professional mechanics, journalists, etc. >> >> thanks for being interested...... >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> A. R. E. >> 645 1st Street >> Jesup, Iowa 50648 >> 319.464.4711 (cell) >> n197tr4@cs.com >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Michael Haberthur >> To: Joe Alexander > Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 1:42 pm >> Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer >> >> OK I know I'm pushing i... >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 20 14:29:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8B2424B2 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:29:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654BA40422 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:29:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qMQ91k00116AWCUA4MRDfe; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 21:25:13 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qMRC1k00E2vctGa8SMRCPw; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 21:25:13 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "Edward Dunn" , "Joe Alexander" References: <372C7FCD-ADCC-4EBF-BD20-EB0B8B8E4514@qualityfueltrailers.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:25:11 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1358717113; bh=ktsKK6gldmixOQFlQ758YX6GOddGy98W8b36zF62mfQ=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MbvaQOm6exCED2PdpzaCD5XCyUbzbu3ZndZTnfCb00Mc9xII9GeMu+Nn4VIHUqDwH oQocteQJ12LQrKgzvZvTSLioAqp+1QlGpR0p2/EhcSgjn5IighbDAQuLzLJW72poPN 3Bl1psG6iuYTSdsljSyOIvX8Orbo2Z3Vsw7Q+RmhUw4UxjL9Q07TrGnnFZiIIG4wjw XFZhzn2yekCvKrVDib0m4PcX3H0NvHgXkvY97RSvBtsil28K3eoV6hlf3OXCjYtfG+ +XdVZUeai04tD3shEWZFUgcTS3UFJz5F6VTeBCFaA2cKNfJJ60P9o0ledtEezsp8kW 9UsYn9bG8SgAQ== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] A non-candidate for non-membership what to do? help! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I vote to admit him to FOT..He's got the '\Spirit' Racer Bud Spitfire #21 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Dunn" To: "Joe Alexander" Cc: Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] A non-candidate for non-membership what to do? help! >I tend to think in terms of increasing interest in Triumph competition. At >car > shows I like to encourage folks to sit in our cars, touch them and even > start > them up. I'm interested in getting more folks interested regardless of > whether they currently race or not. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 20, 2013, at 12:56 PM, "Joe Alexander" wrote: > >> FOT: >> >> I just turned this guy down, a few minutes ago. You can see it below. I > got >> a gracious response and a desire to make a donation. He did a total > teardown >> and rebuild of a TR4 in recent history and he has all four of Kas' recent >> books. >> >> I have made exceptions to the 'competition rule' in the past where we >> have >> thought there was the potential for contribution. >> >> Read BELOW and tell us all what you think. Thanks, Joe A >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Michael Haberthur >> To: Joe Alexander >> Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 2:42 pm >> Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer >> >> >> Raced a Tariq years ago at some local races in CA. Club stuff. I was > putting >> myself through college and spending the next 26 years defending our > country. >> How is that for a naked plug!! LOL!! No money early and no time later >> other >> than as a spectator. I guess I'm trying to catch up on lost time. Thanks >> anyway. Can I support the organization with a donation. I think it is a >> wonderful group supporting Triumphs. >> >> On Jan 20, 2013 12:26 PM, "Joe Alexander" wrote: >> >> have you had any connections with TRIUMPH COMPETITION in the past. >> >> i have had enormous pressure from a group of people to stay the course on > the >> original 'charter'. >> >> we have had exceptions with professional mechanics, journalists, etc. >> >> thanks for being interested...... >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> A. R. E. >> 645 1st Street >> Jesup, Iowa 50648 >> 319.464.4711 (cell) >> n197tr4@cs.com >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Michael Haberthur >> To: Joe Alexander > Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 1:42 pm >> Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer >> >> OK I know I'm pushing i... >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 20 14:40:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DFF54051C for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:40:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3CBF40439 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:39:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.202]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 166A81C000083 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:34:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mte001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mte001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.236.65]) by mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id DDAA5E000086; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:34:58 -0500 (EST) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:34:58 -0500 (EST) To: n197tr4@cs.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358717699; bh=1eOvu6vsy7o067IXPD1AnwGAt6sLN2W6gVXHVJpAhlA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AQtSENKvmQFzLquPlG6VByDP67JVTASx26l+cBAwyNUXjYNWwgzigTdJAHhfNZKJy sWlRvmxZJb1HqUkfPLLdU66cNOnpctUyzAdldk8MfQlPpT5pkH3ArHgxPEGTCrNBeA 9TexWXpt5SBn4eYDo6grNQtpAOwc6/jesFtTdcu4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33ca50fc6302232f Subject: Re: [Fot] A non-candidate for non-membership what to do? help! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 01/20/2013 2:56:17 PM Central Standard Time, n197tr4@cs.com writes: > I just turned this guy down, a few minutes ago. You can see it below. I > got > a gracious response and a desire to make a donation. He did a total > teardown > and rebuild of a TR4 in recent history and he has all four of Kas' recent > books. I have made exceptions to the 'competition rule' in the past where > we have > thought there was the potential for contribution. Read BELOW and tell us > all what you think. Joe... Why don't I contact him off list and encourage him to reapply, claiming to be building a Triumph race car. That way you don't have to bend the rules, and God knows bending truth is not a sin around here. Bill (Damdinger) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 20 14:42:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E343942490 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:42:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5AF240443 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:42:16 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=eiJRm6rqGn8EJvXxHSdv4Q==:17 a=IYbAqjljJL4A:10 a=1cuzAnPDeJcA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=TfdOG3rNM_YA:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=gxA-d7iFpDLaPg5tl3kA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=eiJRm6rqGn8EJvXxHSdv4Q==:117 Received: from [70.112.152.241] ([70.112.152.241:64415] helo=[192.168.2.3]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id C8/1E-25887-6C36CF05; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 21:38:14 +0000 References: <1f63b.783bc89f.3e2dbd02@aol.com> From: Bob Kramer Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:38:13 -0600 To: "BillDentin@aol.com" Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] A non-candidate for non-membership what to do? help! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net And put him in touch with somebody local who could use a "crew" Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2013, at 3:34 PM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > Damdinger) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 20 14:47:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 505224051C for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:47:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89D74043D for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:47:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.74]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id DBF4F1C00004D; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:43:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msa003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.73]) by mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 9FE4CE000088; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:43:36 -0500 (EST) References: <1f63b.783bc89f.3e2dbd02@aol.com> To: rkramer3@austin.rr.com, BillDentin@aol.com Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.89) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:43:36 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:43:36 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358718216; bh=QoVbU3HsuxHQcrsGRr9vtWSYNYeE3Bfyn3ytNIT10XY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ib2Txob5KNOlQW+KnwH5ADbTNyAj1GtDdTFMR4moDSUD16O7xPVS/IX2nhFnuff+v U7EYomZRFtg10zmfw9UZbDXnFX1CzUbIeO6kZo6XOUq4EgGSfKQJSpQWMgKYaNsk+H 67BaLU/BG10YAzc++0AW+Ym3rvVz8ZueeT+s0US8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294a50fc6508594a Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] A non-candidate for non-membership what to do? help! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Actually, he was presented to the ORDER OF THE BRITISH EMPIRE, and was on Board of Directors of STANDARD TRIUMPH.....how's that? He could be on Bill Dentinger's crew. Bill needs his shift knob polished. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Bob Kramer To: BillDentin Cc: n197tr4 ; fot Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 3:38 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] A non-candidate for non-membership what to do? help! And put him in touch with somebody local who could use a "crew" Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2013, at 3:34 PM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > Damdinger) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 20 14:49:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37EA440453 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:49:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1904043D for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:49:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C179A1645 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:46:59 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:46:59 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <188a5.37faa845.3e283b05@cs.com> <8CFC33A6741096B-C48-4912C@webmail-d142.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC33EB1A9B23C-C48-4937B@webmail-d142.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC551243DE8AA-1C6C-1D477@webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC5638E3BFF63-1C6C-1DDC3@webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC567B59699BA-1C6C-1DFC0@webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] A non-candidate for non-membership what to do? help! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net At the very least have him check out http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo as he may be interested in some of the Triumph related lists there. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 20 14:56:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28FDF424B2 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:56:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F1240435 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:56:13 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=eiJRm6rqGn8EJvXxHSdv4Q==:17 a=IYbAqjljJL4A:10 a=1cuzAnPDeJcA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=TfdOG3rNM_YA:10 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=jIIKTtiOlwtdrYBQCv4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MG4Rcr4xqJIA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=BFRVl7a7xzk4plDmx3cA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=qplC-q3InhFGluIu:21 a=eiJRm6rqGn8EJvXxHSdv4Q==:117 Received: from [70.112.152.241] ([70.112.152.241:64445] helo=[192.168.2.3]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 26/27-25866-C076CF05; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 21:52:12 +0000 References: <1f63b.783bc89f.3e2dbd02@aol.com> <8CFC56E561F8EA9-1C6C-1E319@webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com> From: Bob Kramer Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:52:10 -0600 To: Joe Alexander Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] A non-candidate for non-membership what to do? help! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I dunno, didn't they run the biz into the ground? :) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Actually, he was presented to the ORDER OF THE BRITISH EMPIRE, and was on Board of Directors of STANDARD TRIUMPH.....how's that? > > He could be on Bill Dentinger's crew. Bill needs his shift knob polished. > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Kramer > To: BillDentin > Cc: n197tr4 ; fot > Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 3:38 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] A non-candidate for non-membership what to do? help! > > And put him in touch with somebody local who could use a "crew" > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 20, 2013, at 3:34 PM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > > > Damdinger) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 20 15:05:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FE140445 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:05:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D644040432 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:04:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.9]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 046FE1C000101; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 17:00:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msa003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.73]) by mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id B08FCE000082; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 17:00:55 -0500 (EST) References: <1f63b.783bc89f.3e2dbd02@aol.com> <8CFC56E561F8EA9-1C6C-1E319@webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com> To: rkramer3@austin.rr.com Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.89) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 20 Jan 2013 17:00:55 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 17:00:55 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358719255; bh=BjBbXYO+WmHfa04m7r40mUXaNYsoyiSaUJAgjVrWsxk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=e15Xuhe7o4RJMSWw4b3dzJvPLPhKU1p4UkIhlHue9Sk33VgpiZHB1uTX/qieDjF6R W1AgPM8OsIjhWkfVJBaZE9lCOEZYj9kOp0fuSYndvh3cnrU9cD4hmDIXyNINjJtSV1 yx60XOgJCwQJXPOh9ofBNHMfgx124D1GZPwrpfB0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290950fc691740be Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] A non-candidate for non-membership what to do? help! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I knew that was coming back to me..... :-) Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Bob Kramer To: Joe Alexander Cc: BillDentin ; fot Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 3:52 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] A non-candidate for non-membership what to do? help! I dunno, didn't they run the biz into the ground? :) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: Actually, he was presented to the ORDER OF THE BRITISH EMPIRE, and was on Board of Directors of STANDARD TRIUMPH.....how's that? He could be on Bill Dentinger's crew. Bill needs his shift knob polished. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Bob Kramer To: BillDentin Cc: n197tr4 ; fot Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 3:38 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] A non-candidate for non-membership what to do? help! And put him in touch with somebody local who could use a "crew" Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2013, at 3:34 PM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > Damdinger) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 20 15:42:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E11F42453 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:42:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm7.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm7.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998CD40434 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:42:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.101] by nm7.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jan 2013 22:38:36 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.73] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jan 2013 22:38:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1010.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jan 2013 22:38:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 66955 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jan 2013 22:38:36 -0000 s=s1024; t=1358721515; bh=lfg4E6IXiaGMTW8wryjrGdHzeHJyayJPZOZG6q7tFb4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=sOU/4GQxmkh2xW+awNZyjTYzQbN4OyvCfX+Tb8gdqZmxRwA+vN427aRx7AUFUBBxE5bEB4E5MdIB2yPLEKHt1r4xJR/ZbwhtHE/x4/VqkISUOK3OwTg5VxWasyVW6bk8RagcxNt3CJUjiinWUVlZp5jIiM5i7uhnphbsuym1QVk= s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ldQ3ONH1GSKAV9EkDBNOG9Vq+XGIcbqmsELhtdKP0AeSGrIplzMeLbjWJdTjyLedc2WOoq9tUNP4JFktWdWWNnXjHAvqIciH4GW6gRegmB6WpV6o8thPQQWudR6qWAjyI9n590YCb0sCjueKlFLjUWCXj+zYmrye62Gz34JHSUs=; 2ApIQca56IB3txZfEAWgqzbEvElu_iWjPcdInqyU2njjUC44ihYZqu8GlWxl SAFEg8CgUBxiUdX008..CeXOzrCSN6XWYejXAS5lFNgsLlT65_YmTKUJXLPm 6J4yqr5WCPAkK.iTQeBT1Tjq2hCDEbRCLCWSwCRRy0cfHgKDcVIPX3ffrD6Z xlOXAZAmQPJYtE1fDRRg9jK5ZixDcpmA8lwoI1FUOOjZIEA8B85fpjVVcKgq QdOtNfRuUezWoYzBK0OKUcy9nBYTB2P9BSVb81dhp2eVOvAvt3LChzaYyr4Q _BXSg2GuaSNCwKSiVjEGau2jabJbZlfYamOxWHj07QZPmvuuOf9dKfbj74Px nAladLFjnNVOdBJMb723oBBCOJgCsroXsmEMQqW18ylbfCOmRCeFf.XbVtWr jDyuCBwlTjeDTF9ZM5nyUdcrja0i59PizqFm9V3iKYLMSsrzOxShOK4QFPkT 2E.7f8dnNcIokTegi8x99QGxLKvaGv25p2mDcG.DLdPhqljyKBgvrD_tWcxh jO2ckEQPFOocPo8CVXIzSh1a4LYY- Received: from [99.43.68.42] by web185006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:38:35 PST Sm9lDQpTZWUgd2hhdCBIZW5yeSBoYXMgdG8gc2F5Lg0KSSdsbCBzYXkgdGhlIG9wcG9zaXRlLg0KRA0KDQogDQo.IEkganVzdCB0dXJuZWQgdGhpcyBndXkgZG93biwgYSBmZXcgbWludXRlcyBhZ28uwqAgWW91DQo.IGNhbiBzZWUgaXQgYmVsb3cuwqAgSSBnb3QNCj4gYSBncmFjaW91cyByZXNwb25zZSBhbmQgYSBkZXNpcmUgdG8gbWFrZSBhIGRvbmF0aW9uLsKgDQo.IEhlIGRpZCBhIHRvdGFsIHRlYXJkb3duDQo.IGFuZCByZWJ1aWxkIG9mIGEgVFI0IGluIHJlY2VudCBoaXN0b3J5IGFuZCBoZSBoYXMgYWwBMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:38:35 -0800 (PST) From: Dennis DeLap To: fot@autox.team.net, Joe Alexander Subject: Re: [Fot] A non-candidate for non-membership what to do? help! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe See what Henry has to say. I'll say the opposite. D > I just turned this guy down, a few minutes ago. You > can see it below. I got > a gracious response and a desire to make a donation. > He did a total teardown > and rebuild of a TR4 in recent history and he has all four > of Kas' recent > books. > > I have made exceptions to the 'competition rule' in the past > where we have > thought there was the potential for contribution. > > Read BELOW and tell us all what you think. > Thanks, Joe A > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Haberthur > To: Joe Alexander > Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 2:42 pm > Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer > > > Raced a Tariq years ago at some local races in CA. Club > stuff. I was putting > myself through college and spending the next 26 years > defending our country. > How is that for a naked plug!! LOL!! No money early and no > time later other > than as a spectator. I guess I'm trying to catch up on > lost time. Thanks > anyway. Can I support the organization with a > donation. I think it is a > wonderful group supporting Triumphs. > > On Jan 20, 2013 12:26 PM, "Joe Alexander" > wrote: > > have you had any connections with TRIUMPH COMPETITION in the > past. > > i have had enormous pressure from a group of people to stay > the course on the > original 'charter'. > > we have had exceptions with professional mechanics, > journalists, etc. > > thanks for being interested...... > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Haberthur > To: Joe Alexander Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 1:42 pm > Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer > > OK I know I'm pushing i... > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 20 16:29:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD49424CB for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:29:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com (imr-db01.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60F440514 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:29:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.74]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8866738000076; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:25:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msa003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.73]) by mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1204CE000082; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:25:22 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.89) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:25:21 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:25:22 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358724322; bh=WmU0AZj9zH3qmLEePs60uRR4vndsB83xQH3iLnd+LBQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WwHwlTtwbr5+uRbieVTKW0g/rxyLwZeShK+wgg+Pvlvo/POT/KuP4UWy8qD+0Sk7x m1/P0A8jUM30KwaVYZJRUZUrnbXU2XmEpOaNm6Es24jZN5tFwpMTnmLrfYYT8lgMZ8 N2Ej11mT91hVXTKmM2WcGHvc1pjC1DJ1SsznQS88= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294a50fc7ce27526 Cc: mhaberthur@gmail.com Subject: [Fot] INDUCTION INTO FOT MICHAEL HABERTHUR TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Please welcome Mike Haberthur to this list. There has been more than sufficient support for his addition. Mike's career was in the Navy for 26 years. Now that he has his feet back on the ground, his passion is for TRIUMPHS and the people that have raced them. He lives in Reno with his wife Dee. He hopes to join us at KCUP 2013 with his wife. He wants to spend some of his money, then, otherwise it will all go to his daughter's wedding, the end of September. Mark, please add Mike. Thanks! Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 20 17:19:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FBB5424B9 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 17:19:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f172.google.com (mail-qc0-f172.google.com [209.85.216.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 257AB40523 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 17:19:05 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id b25so1913633qca.17 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:15:02 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=Y+iHzvZ4yAGAVMz75L53MDHFacysOyyhOtSmGKvdOd0=; b=DRPrjd3e4Q1XJ/hhAmkldcn9yKpJWabI6FjlGa/9AwKJXEFt/C4qsB/mGvRtMVpCXG 9Uz6FyKxamr0qH/3u/MIUGkU2GRQB/UP+86aY4Ay22zPpR1fnYtqez4Cxw2VID2mt2XD qZgeU3Wx+tw4EIpvgPZqlxUWWdrdEey0PfHFQGUBDOt6RQ6OA3KXWvvwUQYeyydjiCv0 9RLLmD3JVQxHDeX2JDYiIREIBb9TT+mflY4lgVfQEI63DHpmC31yi2FmBzmZQAEl3ijJ DIPXYbJtZtXiSxURiMZSt8gcTJgwBQwizn2FU1i8mhHrp/aQ284//MbnLWNQtM6UTEqW gx3w== ec10mr17532790qab.3.1358727302756; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:15:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.106.229 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:14:42 -0800 (PST) From: "Enquiries Road & Track" Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:14:42 +1000 To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] six inch wheels and dot racing tires Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net we have front hubs from the T2000 saloon range on our race GT6. They have the big 4 x 4.5" bolt pattern. we also have T2000 matching rear on a Mk2 GT6. That was a custom bearing job to adapt the drive flange and stub axle into Mk2 GT6 housing (along with discs). I have a sets of these 4 sale if anyone is interested, but its post from Australia Terry _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 20 18:01:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F1E424B9 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:01:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s43.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s43.snt0.hotmail.com [65.54.61.94]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8BEC4042D for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 17:57:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT120-W20 ([65.55.90.73]) by snt0-omc2-s43.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:53:36 -0800 From: Kas Kastner To: "n197tr4@cs.com" , fot Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 00:53:36 +0000 References: <188a5.37faa845.3e283b05@cs.com>, , , <8CFC263E776554F-1260-41500@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com>, , , <8CFC33A6741096B-C48-4912C@webmail-d142.sysops.aol.com>, , , , <8CFC33EB1A9B23C-C48-4937B@webmail-d142.sysops.aol.com>, , <8CFC551243DE8AA-1C6C-1D477@webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com>, , , <8CFC5638E3BFF63-1C6C-1DDC3@webmail-m006.sysops. aol.com>, , <8CFC567B59699BA-1C6C-1DFC0@webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com> FILETIME=[BEB83200:01CDF771] Subject: Re: [Fot] A non-candidate for non-membership what to do? help! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net He sent me an Email asking for help in getting to the racing part of the world. I suggested he ask on the FOT for help in that as I have not experienced that in 50 years. It sounded to me as if he wanted to "go racing". Never be beaten by equipment > To: fot@autox.team.net > From: n197tr4@cs.com > Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:56:10 -0500 > Subject: [Fot] A non-candidate for non-membership what to do? help! > > FOT: > > I just turned this guy down, a few minutes ago. You can see it below. I got > a gracious response and a desire to make a donation. He did a total teardown > and rebuild of a TR4 in recent history and he has all four of Kas' recent > books. > > I have made exceptions to the 'competition rule' in the past where we have > thought there was the potential for contribution. > > Read BELOW and tell us all what you think. Thanks, Joe A > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Haberthur > To: Joe Alexander > Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 2:42 pm > Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer > > > Raced a Tariq years ago at some local races in CA. Club stuff. I was putting > myself through college and spending the next 26 years defending our country. > How is that for a naked plug!! LOL!! No money early and no time later other > than as a spectator. I guess I'm trying to catch up on lost time. Thanks > anyway. Can I support the organization with a donation. I think it is a > wonderful group supporting Triumphs. > > On Jan 20, 2013 12:26 PM, "Joe Alexander" wrote: > > have you had any connections with TRIUMPH COMPETITION in the past. > > i have had enormous pressure from a group of people to stay the course on the > original 'charter'. > > we have had exceptions with professional mechanics, journalists, etc. > > thanks for being interested...... > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Haberthur > To: Joe Alexander Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 1:42 pm > Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer > > OK I know I'm pushing i... > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 20 18:15:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9FA5422E7 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:15:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 199A740424 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:12:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.194]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 611D81C0000BA; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:08:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.237.174.38] (mobile-198-228-226-145.mycingular.net [198.228.226.145]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 5D88FE003380; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:08:38 -0500 (EST) References: <8CFC57C8D396AA8-1C6C-1E9E1@webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com> From: Christopher Bock Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:08:33 -0500 To: Joe Alexander x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358730519; bh=mkwjaR3QZKYehvmNq6nn9Z6v5RndWmx6m7aFOPVbykM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=xnPfBH3c2SDqkFkrEQyU7z4TrQqlengR/ovWg/GdSoG8IMwx7jyVlJAdzKC3L3QNf E1e5ODPQyJ5zvY3Caif8ioQZePCNTDMQq706MznnCCOkmxo605eLuyl5GPuJ1KsDlw 0zVQjZreAJiT6jTm9Jl+0eKXvdX785PQx0yp1k58= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c250fc95160648 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] INDUCTION INTO FOT MICHAEL HABERTHUR TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici Glad you have been accepted to the FOT. Hopefully I will be able to get to the KCUP 2013 and meet you. Thank you for serving. Chris On Jan 20, 2013, at 6:25 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Please welcome Mike Haberthur to this list. > > There has been more than sufficient support for his addition. > > Mike's career was in the Navy for 26 years. Now that he has his feet back on > the ground, his passion is for TRIUMPHS and the people that have raced them. > He lives in Reno with his wife Dee. > > He hopes to join us at KCUP 2013 with his wife. He wants to spend some of his > money, then, otherwise it will all go to his daughter's wedding, the end of > September. > > Mark, please add Mike. Thanks! > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 20 18:18:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0BB40426 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:18:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 186BD4040A for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:18:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.149] by nm17.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jan 2013 01:14:27 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.198] by tm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jan 2013 01:14:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1007.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jan 2013 01:14:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 66741 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jan 2013 01:14:27 -0000 s=s1024; t=1358730867; bh=K2dR9bw9GZ3sVCY3q7km+mQdtrauPYxrrQjkTqGX81w=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DqIVLJb+RWxC9xHQH29q3ri/xV2n+xvVTaC1VOf70YBabYgyYaquV3TSuzZpZeetxTlrVKHIJ6yut8uKx+n4sg1sSY48U85qqANtqS+V40QF8JIPntwdxnXRSICLD0G5GMMClrELGhl3HagtGwIJVtIlcJ7RLNSdazllh1RAOWs= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KtbrpNyYXsMTtJrnUyx+y65AupEdFCp59VJnTKdI6pQUBKgnkbMg/ZIjAutKZtRDPYD9mO5tWUR0LvCtbWWKCkhJBz2dlsnsyRCVvoP0SiapXvSpXmw8BWmPodbxHyQiJK8DRScppjnEj8j66FAsG4jUnh+MC21rX/Fx3ebipJg=; HborO4IARjFLpKahThoVlhCOLtJzY0XRCRrAvwCFk3381f51QoB2gvVBhvR0 WqwYqECqMcLcK0uj.T8.k3rIlumUdTu0FSl7hUqtdR.e04w1yKFVVShZn0l6 rixtjVzSDOLq1P6ozsgM4jzChoqMjHv.pcWcbAU4tyC..8mR3FfNUkBkCsoD yYanRpEelGRQXCn8iABqPWdQ57Xf31FNm4KyOjIq75PFT6j3bR2Fslmd5AKY 3HffcidZyooVGKirkKok5VAAbb5z6ok14sSPzj_KFhLomP6zDrMu5dWa9W5w VyfoeRUv8tTFLVL0jxqmoB1N0FQKylRJwVYTfZvFOlvvV2G6Wn7zFMWXp2Mg ZyKc6HTIsiMqJz1c_nq..zOulsGCj3BnPrCASZlUBiYR2XrUg8fjAeC2r_3x OFXgRuD4Wp7ZuHg_ky7LuZHVaVg-- Received: from [66.192.188.2] by web160901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 17:14:26 PST SSBoYXZlIGJlZW4gcnVubmluZyBIUzYgY2FyYnMgc2luY2UgSSBnb3QgdGhlIGNhciBiYWNrIG9uIHRoZSB0cmFjay7CoCBUaGV5IGFyZSBmdWxseSBzb3J0ZWQgd2l0aCB0aW1lIG9uIHRoZSBEeW5vLsKgwqAgV2l0aCB0aGF0IHNhaWQgKEkgaGFkIGEgZmV3IHBvc3RzIG9uIEZPVCBhYm91dCB0aGlzIG92ZXIgdGhlIGxhc3QgNiBtb250aHMpIEkgdGhvdWdodCBJIGhhZCBhIGNhcmIgcHJvYmxlbSB3aXRoIHNvbWUgd2VpcmQgbG9hZGluZyB1cCBpbiBsZWZ0IGhhbmQgdHVybnMgY29taW5nIG9mZiBhIGZ1bGwBMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 17:14:26 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Mehl To: Triumph Friends of Subject: [Fot] TR4 H6 vs HS6 carbs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have been running HS6 carbs since I got the car back on the track. They are fully sorted with time on the Dyno. With that said (I had a few posts on FOT about this over the last 6 months) I thought I had a carb problem with some weird loading up in left hand turns coming off a full fast throttle. I did a leak down and found it was a blown head gasket between cylinders (no over heading or lost water). While thinking I had a carb problem before figuring out the head issue I found a nice set of H6 carbs that I have been working on. Most of the NW FOT racers are using H6 carbs. Any thoughts would be welcome. Thanks!!! Mike Mehl #46 TR4 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 20 18:20:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A77240528 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:20:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5F140437 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:20:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.71]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qN0H1k0021Y3wxoACRG19F; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 01:16:01 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qRG01k00K2vctGa8bRG1ce; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 01:16:01 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "Christopher Bock" , "Joe Alexander" References: <8CFC57C8D396AA8-1C6C-1E9E1@webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com> <1F7E26BF-3BAD-4E10-9B31-C902C5EA4AA9@aol.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 17:15:59 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1358730961; bh=bMWPT//Tk9eYHPIOoosCSIbIlE7mN7HhIu8yEog9zVY=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LqJTNyt+qbIseSAvUmfBnBh/EPU+eyBHM1rhUH73qeNTCpjE15hI/nzAK0Px7Ehpx Feo3NJsx19AWOqEvLCIB6PcxehQFFIlktngyD7yYC1HXd8x8UmRIYvbYbCiXYgveX6 LnFroqKLSptjRMtv7fz2FyNZwYFZM+ypZ5DvVbt9vMpi4S0h0Up0p8aIhFNy5jE0Uy XFdRxG6k1AsrUq+sqn1Rsx+VMzvYOMShe/V7uzzIyjFT1x7vLC3DcGiOiwXzEe+8v2 F6yYOkH0+StZuA0+GJOQcDExsTF3tMwrm3xkcOUOPeF/tqsUXoKO4dI7/ymMF6zW4b TseMAW6yYpqfQ== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] INDUCTION INTO FOT MICHAEL HABERTHUR TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Welcome Mike! Racer Bud.. Spitfire #21 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Bock" To: "Joe Alexander" Cc: Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] INDUCTION INTO FOT MICHAEL HABERTHUR TR4 > Amici > > Glad you have been accepted to the FOT. > > Hopefully I will be able to get to the KCUP 2013 and meet you. > > Thank you for serving. > > Chris > > On Jan 20, 2013, at 6:25 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > >> Please welcome Mike Haberthur to this list. >> >> There has been more than sufficient support for his addition. >> >> Mike's career was in the Navy for 26 years. Now that he has his feet back > on >> the ground, his passion is for TRIUMPHS and the people that have raced > them. >> He lives in Reno with his wife Dee. >> >> He hopes to join us at KCUP 2013 with his wife. He wants to spend some of > his >> money, then, otherwise it will all go to his daughter's wedding, the end >> of >> September. >> >> Mark, please add Mike. Thanks! >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> A. R. E. >> 645 1st Street >> Jesup, Iowa 50648 >> 319.464.4711 (cell) >> n197tr4@cs.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 20 18:22:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF710424C6 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:22:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DDA40437 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:22:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from new-host-4.home (pool-108-16-249-182.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [108.16.249.182]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MGY0093ABLWSYD0@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 01:17:58 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-01-20_05:2013-01-18,2013-01-20,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=11 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1301200321 From: Scott Janzen Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:18:03 -0500 To: Scott Barr , 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph References: <82BFCF3631841845BADD37BD9FE7EA730E81B258@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph GT6 front springs and shocks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net hi - my car came with to me with the Spax, but they were worn out. I replaced the front ones with the rebound-adjustable Carreras - alum body, got them from Ted. Seems to me he told me they are now marketed under a different name. They were as cheap as any other coil-over I could find, and I have been happy with them. I replaced the rear ones with a Spax set a few years ago, which are adjustable for stiffness. The car came with these crazy 700 lb front springs. On the advice of Steve Smith, I went to a softer rate, 550 lb by 8" Eibachs with a 1" front bar. Seems to work well for me. On Jan 18, 2013, at 12:30 PM, Barr, Scott wrote: Dad seems to be having some trouble posting to the list at the moment. Here's what he wanted to ask: "I am rebuilding the front shocks and springs on my #59 Red 68 GT6 What are you GT6 guys using?" Editor's Note: Dad's rebuilding the suspension on his GT6 racer, last revised in 2002. He's got in hand a set of Carrera shocks (adjustable ride-height fronts and regular rears) which are worn out and has investigated the replacement of just the shock component. It appears that's fairly expensive. He's also got a set of Spax shocks, again ride-height adjustable in front. But the Carrera springs may not work with the Spax spring seat. Anyway, he's looking for opinions on what's out there now for GT6s. Scott B. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 20 18:32:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC1B4249A for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:32:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E5C40421 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:32:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from new-host-4.home (pool-108-16-249-182.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [108.16.249.182]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MGY00CQLC2RZV50@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 01:28:15 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-01-20_05:2013-01-18,2013-01-20,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=18 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1301200326 From: Scott Janzen Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:28:09 -0500 References: <7bf77dbb.374424.13c4e133083.Webtop.46@charter.net> To: jkhagen@charter.net Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 six inch wheels and dot racing tires Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm running the chromoly spindles sourced from Joe Siam, along with his alloy hubs. switched to the hubs when a bearing race started spinning in one of the stock ones. you can use Toyo R888, 205/60-13 tires if you want radials. They almost last too long - there's still plenty of tread left after several race weekends, but after a certain number of heat cycles (I need to count this) they lose some grip. Still drivable, but definitely not as good. A lot of the spridget people seem to run them too, though 185s, and I have seen a Yenko Corvair running 13" wheels with the same tire. There's not much else out there that fits - some very expensive Avons are all that I have found. On Jan 18, 2013, at 9:32 AM, jkhagen@charter.net wrote: GT-6 People--The front spindle shafts on the GT-6 are different [beefier] than even TR-3-4. Has anyone have to upgrade these? Make any sense to machine outer part of the shaft to accept TR-4 bearing and use TR-4 hubs etc etc. Would be similar to the re-inforcing sleeve concept. Have seen it done through my TVR experience. Comments? John Hagen On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 9:08 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > Hoosier tires... They have 3 or 4 regional distributors for street T.D.S and panasport wheels have 2 different backspacing options (talked w someone there last year). Both have easy info websites. > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: jeffwhall@aol.com > Sender: fot-bounces@autox.team.netDate: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:59:45 To: ; ; > Subject: [Fot] six inch wheels and dot racing tires > > Hay guys, > > Does anyone have resources for a GT6 racing tires and six inch rims? > > Jeff Hall > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barr, Scott > To: jerrybarr ; fot@autox.team.net friends > > Sent: Thu, Jan 17, 2013 5:38 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Front Shocks > > > Yes, they are a good idea. I am all for them. > > Scott B. > > Scott Barr > McCarty Law LLP > (920) 257-2233 > www.mccarty-law.com > > > -----Original message----- > From: Jerry Barr > To: "fot@autox.team.net friends" > Sent: Fri, Jan 18, 2013 00:31:43 GMT+00:00 > Subject: [Fot] Front Shocks > > > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffwhall@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 20 18:37:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC7440454 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:37:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E5F40424 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:37:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130121013326.CICC24708.mta31.charter.net@imp09>; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:33:26 -0500 Received: from [10.0.1.6] ([68.112.108.51]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id qRZR1k00c16aBHQ05RZRRX; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:33:26 -0500 a=2hRZoSXNx8WLTyjzW0iEpQ==:17 a=DBDq8uSI_e4A:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=segrs4GcHAAA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=HHGDD-5mAAAA:8 a=qy2BVNXqCV-sPXEDgAIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=i1zE5R4R5dEA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=2hRZoSXNx8WLTyjzW0iEpQ==:117 From: Jerry Barr Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:33:25 -0600 References: <82BFCF3631841845BADD37BD9FE7EA730E81B258@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <7BD01AA6-74CA-4706-B478-2700ED0EF864@me.com> To: Scott Janzen Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph GT6 front springs and shocks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ted is looking for a replacement for my old Carreras. One of the front shocks has a little dead spot of about .5"in both directions. I don't know much about shocks but the Carreras have screw in the bottom of the body that looks like a fill hole to me. I never saw any leakage on them and they worked very well so I am wondering if it is possible to change fluid and use them. The fluid is very dark or maybe burned. Any thoughts on that? On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:18 PM, Scott Janzen wrote: > hi - my car came with to me with the Spax, but they were worn out. I replaced the front ones with the rebound-adjustable Carreras - alum body, got them from Ted. Seems to me he told me they are now marketed under a different name. They were as cheap as any other coil-over I could find, and I have been happy with them. I replaced the rear ones with a Spax set a few years ago, which are adjustable for stiffness. > The car came with these crazy 700 lb front springs. On the advice of Steve Smith, I went to a softer rate, 550 lb by 8" Eibachs with a 1" front bar. Seems to work well for me. > > On Jan 18, 2013, at 12:30 PM, Barr, Scott wrote: > > Dad seems to be having some trouble posting to the list at the moment. Here's > what he wanted to ask: > > "I am rebuilding the front shocks and springs on my #59 Red 68 GT6 What are > you GT6 guys using?" > > Editor's Note: Dad's rebuilding the suspension on his GT6 racer, last revised > in 2002. He's got in hand a set of Carrera shocks (adjustable ride-height > fronts and regular rears) which are worn out and has investigated the > replacement of just the shock component. It appears that's fairly expensive. > He's also got a set of Spax shocks, again ride-height adjustable in front. > But the Carrera springs may not work with the Spax spring seat. > > Anyway, he's looking for opinions on what's out there now for GT6s. > > Scott B. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerrybarr@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 20 19:47:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045D04051F for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:47:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm32-vm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm32-vm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.216.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C5440410 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:44:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.137.12.175] by nm32.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jan 2013 02:40:43 -0000 Received: from [98.136.185.193] by tm14.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jan 2013 02:40:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp102-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jan 2013 02:40:43 -0000 s=s1024; t=1358736043; bh=XY+nRkvKEpyI6whA9dP7pWqKBeYILaXHyfDmtnqBLSI=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=QH/GIy+t9wcspBnVBWY7rfTiG+Y1WrheDLHjc//nM2FT2Bu67bvCW6VwE0GGDVmitY/fY8QlbF1RhljAPJrYOsCRbSf0ShwYkZkbluY5OHFIbstYNcQjECREKb4OFIeeSMGB+RCDc/BDA5RXLVjmtHxjCN44QhrN4ubDPjorEUI= 0ME80ppD49LknWwkl1Kf4fAl.wzJQzY9K2WTJkJ_HvwpjUl8BhUVkNJuPt1H G0HPhbTXHbX6x6eXpFfZvCUb1TYLvIasZzflOI2slygkEiN6XJTYlzTaf6Y3 5vSGMwLiSfnM2PymTyQsTVxkednoxiAQl_1dFjWNxBiOm72F3LUSbLedLB9h nA03kaMlQsMdMY8A3.EcqM8oXG.aTPrdTippjnutBG2RKsjdULeVJFifZliq bWW7ssmM2UozXNxef9Gzh4zTUIlTg2QRkQEqGmtolrN.Z9FY5UwHPprso3Qv j6t.vcAuWnkz3HtQXU3Ls4k2Dq893qqr4WVBiJK68pV1CN0CUNCi4R.Q8EYg FzStYwvuomn3PXUoHfWGbBa7CNYYyLFzAFIw0yiX5cb76MuakAlJlv9iLN_j FQPwijrybQ3loJvQequdFCbTRSiHGKdBWT_NctO67i7JElWTwC.vSocwWhW. eT.ejvPQDrbcSXFS85Mtgu5HLIHpUGD0BA9n1bL31zL4k Received: from [192.168.2.2] (Tylerpthompson@67.190.144.189 with xymcookie) by smtp102-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2013 18:40:43 -0800 PST References: <1358730866.57873.YahooMailNeo@web160901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:40:44 -0700 To: Mike Mehl Cc: Triumph Friends of Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 H6 vs HS6 carbs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have had no problems with my HS6s in the turns once I switched to the MG style float bowls. Having floats oriented left to right is not a good design for road racing. Once I changed these out, I no longer have the sputtering and hesitation coming out of any turn. Having only run HS6s, I can't compare, but I do like the HS6s (until I can afford some Mikunis). Ty Ty Sent from my iPad (Please excuse any errors or typos) On Jan 20, 2013, at 6:14 PM, Mike Mehl wrote: > I have been running HS6 carbs since I got the car back on the track. They are > fully sorted with time on the Dyno. With that said (I had a few posts on FOT > about this over the last 6 months) I thought I had a carb problem with some > weird loading up in left hand turns coming off a full fast throttle. I did a > leak down and found it was a blown head gasket between cylinders (no over > heading or lost water). While thinking I had a carb problem before figuring > out the head issue I found a nice set of H6 carbs that I have been working > on. Most of the NW FOT racers are using H6 carbs. > > Any thoughts would be > welcome. > > Thanks!!! > > Mike Mehl #46 TR4 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tylerpthompson@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 20 20:12:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EBE4051B for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:12:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from ewout03.consolidated.net (ewout03.consolidated.net [206.123.242.150]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E54EC40426 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:12:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.102] ([72.251.169.90]) by ewout03.consolidated.net ({7f4c37df-33fe-4041-bc97-39fcf9138839}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTPSA id 20130121030836243 (AUTH triumphs@consolidated.net); Mon, 21 Jan 2013 03:08:36 +0000 References: <188a5.37faa845.3e283b05@cs.com> <8CFC263E776554F-1260-41500@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC33A6741096B-C48-4912C@webmail-d142.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC33EB1A9B23C-C48-4937B@webmail-d142.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC551243DE8AA-1C6C-1D477@webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC5638E3BFF63-1C6C-1DDC3@webmail-m006.sysops. aol.com> <8CFC567B59699BA-1C6C-1DFC0@webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com> From: Home Consolidated Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 21:08:30 -0600 To: Kas Kastner Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] A non-candidate for non-membership what to do? help! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I say ya. Being one of the exceptions, I know I have learned from and enjoy this a lot. I hate to deny another the experience. Ken Gano Sent from my iPad On Jan 20, 2013, at 6:53 PM, Kas Kastner wrote: > He sent me an Email asking for help in getting to the racing part of the > world. I suggested he ask on the FOT for help in that as I have not > experienced that in 50 years. > It sounded to me as if he wanted to "go racing". > Never be beaten by equipment >> To: fot@autox.team.net >> From: n197tr4@cs.com >> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:56:10 -0500 >> Subject: [Fot] A non-candidate for non-membership what to do? help! >> >> FOT: >> >> I just turned this guy down, a few minutes ago. You can see it below. I > got >> a gracious response and a desire to make a donation. He did a total > teardown >> and rebuild of a TR4 in recent history and he has all four of Kas' recent >> books. >> >> I have made exceptions to the 'competition rule' in the past where we have >> thought there was the potential for contribution. >> >> Read BELOW and tell us all what you think. Thanks, Joe A >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Michael Haberthur >> To: Joe Alexander >> Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 2:42 pm >> Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer >> >> >> Raced a Tariq years ago at some local races in CA. Club stuff. I was > putting >> myself through college and spending the next 26 years defending our > country. >> How is that for a naked plug!! LOL!! No money early and no time later other >> than as a spectator. I guess I'm trying to catch up on lost time. Thanks >> anyway. Can I support the organization with a donation. I think it is a >> wonderful group supporting Triumphs. >> >> On Jan 20, 2013 12:26 PM, "Joe Alexander" wrote: >> >> have you had any connections with TRIUMPH COMPETITION in the past. >> >> i have had enormous pressure from a group of people to stay the course on > the >> original 'charter'. >> >> we have had exceptions with professional mechanics, journalists, etc. >> >> thanks for being interested...... >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> A. R. E. >> 645 1st Street >> Jesup, Iowa 50648 >> 319.464.4711 (cell) >> n197tr4@cs.com >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Michael Haberthur >> To: Joe Alexander > Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 1:42 pm >> Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer >> >> OK I know I'm pushing i... >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas@cox.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphs@consolidated.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 20 20:38:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B3B94042B for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:38:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f41.google.com (mail-pa0-f41.google.com [209.85.220.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1391540424 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:38:40 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id bj3so3143106pad.28 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:34:38 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date :to:x-gm-message-state; bh=AMXju7QR9IZOpU3flyqoerkT2wH7DgllduRKi2DQfZs=; b=lZDaBZhFVITl92bTBF2asP4KrmlNtNyVs8ei066Outw5wK/uJOmYVrEI67n/Himn0T Ns/U8ZraMFoEtu0za+zuFrBhTltOm+UALd12Pnue/PrOM1GUwip/EkkeguN6vSCLLet8 RsZjqPgyPiBAI3+on2DZkx1wj2hp7lCtk9rdwxu+GNFKsYAQUbRhPL3LHa/qIiWTjTkf hgox32M5vZbSgbJp43wMGxZw4I8LlS6YUdtphbA5iSNGMRWkicSTmxgCH7oD0ywrtpEa LyRZXxMD8/NtFzP7Y0pRo+UhIe36QQMMl+WOQT/VHs5VXqQLrk1HG3fC2YSaBES2ZC+G rIiA== bg5mr43847477pab.21.1358739277896; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:34:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.177.228.158] (mobile-166-137-176-133.mycingular.net. [166.137.176.133]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ay6sm8361170pab.30.2013.01.20.19.34.35 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:34:36 -0800 (PST) References: <188a5.37faa845.3e283b05@cs.com> <8CFC263E776554F-1260-41500@webmail-m021.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC33A6741096B-C48-4912C@webmail-d142.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC33EB1A9B23C-C48-4937B@webmail-d142.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC551243DE8AA-1C6C-1D477@webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC5638E3BFF63-1C6C-1DDC3@webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com> <8CFC567B59699BA-1C6C-1DFC0@webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com> From: Bill Babcock Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 17:34:38 -1000 To: Joe Alexander Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] A non-candidate for non-membership what to do? help! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sure. He'll get there Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > FOT: > > I just turned this guy down, a few minutes ago. You can see it below. I got > a gracious response and a desire to make a donation. He did a total teardown > and rebuild of a TR4 in recent history and he has all four of Kas' recent > books. > > I have made exceptions to the 'competition rule' in the past where we have > thought there was the potential for contribution. > > Read BELOW and tell us all what you think. Thanks, Joe A > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Haberthur > To: Joe Alexander > Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 2:42 pm > Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer > > > Raced a Tariq years ago at some local races in CA. Club stuff. I was putting > myself through college and spending the next 26 years defending our country. > How is that for a naked plug!! LOL!! No money early and no time later other > than as a spectator. I guess I'm trying to catch up on lost time. Thanks > anyway. Can I support the organization with a donation. I think it is a > wonderful group supporting Triumphs. > > On Jan 20, 2013 12:26 PM, "Joe Alexander" wrote: > > have you had any connections with TRIUMPH COMPETITION in the past. > > i have had enormous pressure from a group of people to stay the course on the > original 'charter'. > > we have had exceptions with professional mechanics, journalists, etc. > > thanks for being interested...... > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Haberthur > To: Joe Alexander Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 1:42 pm > Subject: Re: Message from The Vintage Racer > > OK I know I'm pushing i... > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billb@bnj.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 21 05:25:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B542942487 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 05:25:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm17.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm17.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id DD10142487 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 05:25:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.151] by nm17.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jan 2013 12:21:18 -0000 Received: from [98.139.215.228] by tm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jan 2013 12:21:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1068.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jan 2013 12:21:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 34960 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jan 2013 12:21:18 -0000 s=s1024; t=1358770878; bh=U9cr0jw5+NDUb/5Io9OdiEUAzxbjtjH+AJAkbyEQVbc=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2nJwgATP+rZgaRLIZC2qd7CMCKe6E3LG7md3pEywRqkvYvEH6hhLopiPDm4CmMPunFcV7MM3xMu1g4pyxNeWUdiUYne3Qn3RA8L217AGPagB1Nvvljvei3y2fdrQHKuCyJKQ+iHw7k3vlY8XaA/3y3SY/CSQeuXZtqDgscttplk= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=N8dVZj+6ZxrCGOlIYTFLqtUUpfW5HvIX8e/rFaam8G1nQo6M6240IGTI6VCk+7ljk88dNMPmrpm+INXTXSq37R4PrfWD2zC3x4okFomfMy7A+PPHXhK6KhOUWIIQ0sftyls07f8DckH2MvMAs5YjUgS4EuwY7+L0paQ7feeeNoY=; _W5nMNDaoSy_Hdju4uvBc Received: from [217.144.201.10] by web160703.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 04:21:18 PST aHR0cDovL3d3dy5yZXNvbmF0ZXNvbHV0aW9ucy5jYS9jb21wb25lbnRzL2NvbV9jb250ZW50L2ZpdG5zLmh0bWwKCgpKYXkgQ3JlZWwBMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 04:21:18 -0800 (PST) From: Jay Creel To: sergio.frutuoso@comcast.net, fot@autox.team.net, slo515@hotmail.com, edwardgbruce@comcast.net, burwood_family@sbcglobal.net, jjbroller@sbcglobal.net, alogilv67@yahoo.com, kbpcor@sbcglobal.net, darrell@needmoreracing.com Subject: [Fot] (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net http://www.resonatesolutions.ca/components/com_content/fitns.html Jay Creel _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 21 07:52:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6489E4055D for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 07:52:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9684055D for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 07:48:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.200]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 2CDC71C00027D; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 09:44:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mte001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mte001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.236.65]) by mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 9F22DE000082; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 09:44:16 -0500 (EST) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 09:44:16 -0500 (EST) To: n197tr4@cs.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358779457; bh=txGExWpRjJgLWneGWAGoNbG+khwvAhg4vwAecJWgAfw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wyzGRIn8VQj4yrYKjgsWEx7qlXk0OtojgZ2xOdNi2FnwTYm4odiWoxhxqyvZF76yQ UIvILuvKHhobmCCrqD7vhCje7dDq6hH2b7a6XQSE8eNH1HZB7w2jWnn85rNngHAOmG EOQoDuzMFM3sjM4p6wGkfVsDsEDEOeUM6Qi+mpHE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c850fd544003f0 Subject: Re: [Fot] INDUCTION INTO FOT MICHAEL HABERTHUR TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 01/20/2013 5:25:33 PM Central Standard Time, n197tr4@cs.com writes: > Mike's career was in the Navy for 26 years. Welcome shipmate. I'm a long ago plank owner of the USS Springfield, CLG7 (one of the country's first guided missile cruises, but long since made into razor blades). Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 21 08:29:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1093A424C9 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 08:29:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B9A4041D for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 08:29:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.22.217]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MGZ00M5IEU4GAE0@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 09:25:17 -0600 (CST) From: "Bill Tobin" To: , , References: <22d9e.67e0b4c4.3e2eae40@aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:25:20 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] INDUCTION INTO FOT MICHAEL HABERTHUR TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Man Bill, that's a lot of blades! What if you're an electric razor kind of guy? (Which I'm not) Thanks for your service. I was draft bait in late '69 and talked to a Navy rectuiter, but got a high number in the draft lottery later that year. Probably would have done me good to have joined, but.....................who knows. Stay warm, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] INDUCTION INTO FOT MICHAEL HABERTHUR TR4 > In a message dated 01/20/2013 5:25:33 PM Central Standard Time, > n197tr4@cs.com writes: > > >> Mike's career was in the Navy for 26 years. > > Welcome shipmate. I'm a long ago plank owner of the USS Springfield, CLG7 > (one of the country's first guided missile cruises, but long since made > into > razor blades). > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 21 08:44:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A1A42533 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 08:44:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56EA8403FB for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 08:43:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130121153928.ITTV24708.mta31.charter.net@imp09>; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:39:28 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([66.227.235.90]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id qffS1k00Z1xi4cJ05ffTZd; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:39:27 -0500 a=SjuUym14L3tHVHHCmfaQRQ==:17 a=jl2ymW9NZSsA:10 a=xwyLIf5nUJ4A:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=q7UuY575WjcA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=IvCEr5xq75CalGkPU1UA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=SjuUym14L3tHVHHCmfaQRQ==:117 Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:39:18 -0500 From: Glenn Franco User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley , Friends of triumph References: Subject: Re: [Fot] Tranny rebuilt problem looking for a solution Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Chuck I have had the same problem many times even when using a dummy shaft. I did have some success on the last one by gently moving it into place with a screw driver. Did you use lots of sticky grease on the case side to keep it in place? Glenn On 1/20/2013 11:37 PM, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley wrote: > spent the afternoon reassembly the tranny for my TR6. All went OK till I > tried to put the countershaft back in. The front thrust washer is hanging > down about a 32 of an inch and nothing I have tried can move it up that > little amount so the counter shaft can come through. I presume the washer > has rotated a little such that the dimple is now not aligned with theslot > at the top. anybody have any experience with solving this short of taking > it all apart again and reassembling? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gaf3@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 21 08:53:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4575342530 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 08:53:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com (imr-db02.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DDC040416 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 08:50:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.138]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id DAEA61C000285; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:46:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dne002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dne002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.160.69]) by mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4D9F3E000094; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:46:53 -0500 (EST) From: Gt6steve@aol.com Full-name: Gt6steve Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:46:52 -0500 (EST) To: gaf3@charter.net, triosan@gmail.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358783213; bh=Egx73rzYQfTaM91NxT8qtGlPscifo4v5CMpsBcWkVv0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IblWlfS5En5zDSLA0yu7mjWjnM2t55PGqBFMsEEahXfxJQkTCu4rNUKOW9SRupp0t 63FucKXF7KUjn/rXccal4Lfdy+K6AadXFwyZ8EV9GdNVBBfegaBUiPgpe0qfOFKT4E 0qRMypiHLgwtlCcxVrSXdGig1mjT31UwV1BwnhKg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338a50fd62ed5d3d Subject: Re: [Fot] Tranny rebuilt problem looking for a solution Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This'll sound silly but the trick is to set the case in the sun for a while and let the alloy expand for that extra bit of clearance. The 500 watt halogen shop light works very well too! In a message dated 1/21/2013 7:40:18 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, gaf3@charter.net writes: Chuck I have had the same problem many times even when using a dummy shaft. I did have some success on the last one by gently moving it into place with a screw driver. Did you use lots of sticky grease on the case side to keep it in place? Glenn On 1/20/2013 11:37 PM, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley wrote: > spent the afternoon reassembly the tranny for my TR6. All went OK till I > tried to put the countershaft back in. The front thrust washer is hanging > down about a 32 of an inch and nothing I have tried can move it up that > little amount so the counter shaft can come through. I presume the washer > has rotated a little such that the dimple is now not aligned with theslot > at the top. anybody have any experience with solving this short of taking > it all apart again and reassembling? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gaf3@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 21 09:12:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B124253B for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 09:12:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp05.bis6.us.blackberry.com (smtp05.bis6.us.blackberry.com [74.82.85.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0E340E17; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 09:12:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from b18.c18.bise6.blackberry ([192.168.0.118]) by srs.bis6.us.blackberry.com (8.13.7 TEAMON/8.13.7) with ESMTP id r0LBPFNN020590; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 16:08:25 GMT References: Sensitivity: Normal To: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" , fot-bounces@autox.team.net, "Friends" , "Triumph" <6pack@autox.team.net> From: jeff_durant@comcast.net Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 16:08:20 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] Tranny rebuilt problem looking for a solution Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Chuck, This is a fairly common problem when assembling the TR trans. Try flipping the transmission upside down. This will allow the laygear to rest on the mainshaft gears and hopefully take and load off of the thrust washers. Then carefully move the thrust washer into position. I use a small pick through one of the 2x 5/16" layshaft end plate mounting bolts to rotate and position the thrust washer. This has worked for me many times. Give me a call if you get stuck. Jeff D. TR6 #12 TR250 TR4A Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" To: Friends; Triumph<6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: [Fot] Tranny rebuilt problem looking for a solution spent the afternoon reassembly the tranny for my TR6. All went OK till I tried to put the countershaft back in. The front thrust washer is hanging down about a 32 of an inch and nothing I have tried can move it up that little amount so the counter shaft can come through. I presume the washer has rotated a little such that the dimple is now not aligned with theslot at the top. anybody have any experience with solving this short of taking it all apart again and reassembling? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 21 10:16:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD788403F4 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:16:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD2A403F4 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:16:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.87]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qf3X1k00C1smiN4A1hCd1b; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 17:12:37 +0000 Received: from sz0004.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qhAd1k00V2xZMJ48ghAdpP; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 17:10:37 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 17:10:37 +0000 (UTC) From: toodamnfunky@comcast.net To: Scott Janzen (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) s=q20121106; t=1358788357; bh=jV2eP1K4OGDDvRA+Cm7O9gifx28YoHEUIWMOw3lqKdg=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=cC0jUh/F5GsG/B9yt3CJ7W9AMHgta/zc/k5/eJruT35uaBsdAwd0pLsz4YjAjByf4 9DJGmxz4qkykjdpnzZ0ePe7fGCYMocrZeW3QJfCL5l5OZuQL/BzYUvC+08P31QeNRY Fddtm1bZsO+QxT2GBhO/DA8HN3skohLLMZq5hlOqJgQJkVmHNJBqfvydIo623tG2Qu IgAp9/I6yugL5sCMXo2b9A5DPDjPvsPyLIMJmqVeMHsUvsl1PQaPASnlkvr1P9/Ceb 3MUNYjaawgtxTRYpbnWctMB20kycOztpWrkRbTmg3kfOnZcbRC+2UGS0bndO+03h4V YCcfPBR6ce1qA== Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 six inch wheels and dot racing tires floow up on R888's Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Just FYI, The Toyo RA-1's are viewed as a better tire in the SCCA. In 2011 SCCA/SM went to the R888's as a spec tire but after a ton of negative feedback from the drivers the SCCA went back to the RA-1 for 2012. The RA-1 is an R compound and do in fact get faster as they wear. Spec Miata drivers typically have them shaved way down before they run em. I've used them and am a big fan of the RA-1 and I have no direct experience with the R888 other than other drivers feedback. jim g ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Janzen" To: jkhagen@charter.net Cc: "'Friends of Triumph' Triumph" Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 6:28:09 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 six inch wheels and dot racing tires I'm running the chromoly spindles sourced from Joe Siam, along with his alloy hubs. B switched to the hubs when a bearing race started spinning in one of the stock ones. you can use Toyo R888, 205/60-13 tires if you want radials. B They almost last too long - there's still plenty of tread left after several race weekends, but after a certain number B of heat cycles (I need to count this) they lose some grip. B Still drivable, but definitely not as good. A lot of the spridget people seem to run them too, though 185s, and I have seen a Yenko Corvair running 13" wheels with the same tire. There's not much else out there that fits - some very expensive Avons are all that I have found. On Jan 18, 2013, at 9:32 AM, jkhagen@charter.net wrote: GT-6 People--The front spindle shafts on the GT-6 are different [beefier] than even B TR-3-4. B Has anyone have to upgrade these? B Make any sense to machine outer part of the shaft to accept TR-4 bearing and use TR-4 hubs etc etc. B Would be similar to the re-inforcing sleeve concept. B Have seen it done through my TVR experience. B Comments? B John Hagen On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 9:08 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > Hoosier tires... They have 3 or 4 regional distributors for street T.D.S and panasport wheels have 2 different backspacing options (talked w someone there last year). Both have easy info websites. > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: jeffwhall@aol.com > Sender: fot-bounces@autox.team.netDate: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:59:45 To: ; ; > Subject: [Fot] six inch wheels and dot racing tires > > Hay guys, > > Does anyone have resources for a GT6 racing tires and six inch rims? > > Jeff Hall > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barr, Scott > To: jerrybarr ; fot@autox.team.net friends > > Sent: Thu, Jan 17, 2013 5:38 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Front Shocks > > > Yes, they are a good idea. B I am all for them. > > Scott B. > > Scott Barr > McCarty Law LLP > (920) 257-2233 > www.mccarty-law.com > > > -----Original message----- > From: Jerry Barr > To: "fot@autox.team.net friends" > Sent: Fri, Jan 18, 2013 00:31:43 GMT+00:00 > Subject: [Fot] Front Shocks > > > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffwhall@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 21 12:03:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72E74040A for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 12:03:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D762C40412 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 12:01:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.200]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 131471C00009C; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 13:57:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msa003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.73]) by mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 9D668E000087; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 13:57:22 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d127.sysops.aol.com (149.174.18.17) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 21 Jan 2013 13:57:21 -0500 Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 13:57:22 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358794643; bh=MKLUIYfT2M7PW7AFk1Vh3jG8Iyj7Y27s1g39Jhvco3k=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DYgBrGBWksVZ9RFhOlRP0VA2U+qutztYhTO3R66QHdESS2ni57Y45565Gwl2sQTvG COfGV5f8DJ9wGPcoiev7ctvemkctkYa7xf28DeLRCnkRlzy3Eg8Agfhw86iqhSzjay DhDzxPLH4R3kIizb65oGHp5jCrDX2vGb2nH98eOg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c850fd8f926966 Subject: [Fot] "GATHERING ON THE GREEN" @ THE KASTNER CUP ROAD AMERICA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT: We will be looking for a fine example of each TRIUMPH MODEL for showing at the GATHERING ON THE GREEN. The GATHERING ON THE GREEN is an invitational car show on late Saturday afternoon, prior to, and during the OLD COURSE RE-ENACTMENT. This occurs on the expansive lawn of the OSTHOF, our host hotel. We will be looking for both RACE CARS and STREET CARS for consideration. Be thinking about this as this is a very special event. Race cars will be escorted to and from the OSTHOF from the track. I did this a couple of years ago with the AMBRO. It was a hoot. Kas and Peg will be involved, of course. I believe that the cars that are selected, their owners will be eligible for two weekend passes from VSCDA. The FOT will be looking very good for this ELKHART LAKE VINTAGE FESTIVAL weekend. More details will follow, but I wanted to give a 'heads up' now. PLAN! Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 21 13:11:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 474164252C for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 13:11:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc2-s23.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s23.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.98]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4035842528 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 13:10:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from BAY401-EAS373 ([65.54.190.124]) by bay0-omc2-s23.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 21 Jan 2013 12:06:47 -0800 From: Rich Rock Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 15:06:42 -0500 To: "fot@autox.team.net" FILETIME=[D7A97840:01CDF812] Subject: [Fot] TR-4 Engine Bearings? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I need to buy a couple sets, who is selling the best ones these days? Thanks, Rich Rock _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 21 13:16:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFEB74253E for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 13:16:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB6C5424DD for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 13:16:38 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rdavis4@cfl.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=3JBXBaYvr88A:10 a=Zk3OmFfbAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=umde-sVnPh4xrpSGXFUA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=x46t9oslO7cA:10 a=M9wi1zWtvKmOCzV4vqnM4A==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.189] ([10.127.132.189:47523] helo=cdptpa-web38-z02.mail.rr.com) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 01/9F-26261-031ADF05; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 20:12:32 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 15:12:32 -0500 From: To: Rich Rock , "fot@autox.team.net" Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-4 Engine Bearings? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net BPW has tri-metal bearings and aluminum bearings. Bob ---- Rich Rock wrote: > I need to buy a couple sets, who is selling the best ones these days? > > Thanks, > > Rich Rock > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rdavis4@cfl.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 21 13:20:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1F142551 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 13:20:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADC2424DD for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 13:20:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qiqg1k0060cQ2SLA7kGEy2; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 20:16:14 +0000 Received: from sz0004.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qkGE1k00G2yr1eL8WkGEMv; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 20:16:14 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 20:16:14 +0000 (UTC) From: toodamnfunky@comcast.net To: Rich Rock (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) s=q20121106; t=1358799374; bh=3ToaQcKrGmx+RIjkVohi432k8Lp0BU3Ol378Ew/Dw4Y=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=PlfUAAVscc6vlt8KtTCvGjIMfULd/v4F4VXUsy5PC6OQjftZ0I6BsKctrXeuQ015V K7MkOv2xCicfrG/z/TRmQ4D7defbR/CstXsLBEcpPJ8FytsuQYPtSwTFordK1foP0t BjN4U4By1qo6Uhru/eNJbKxREvykzoP/uJzFTtniZwrJgZVlBpPXAMiwLFaWqg2/3D 2Hn9WONRuPqoPk8JzHJm5vNKqKTuuJ/zcXatuqI+6zVAWzmr0wNYbbUXrEb05p1FQ3 WtRpDQ1Izg/ITWQHqoeGf8mJaWZP81iNTyIHRAISXdHy4TXJKzyue7XrBUA0tXnXU1 SVXR9bKM8g8iw== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-4 Engine Bearings? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net BFE has the Clevite 77 rod bearings. jim g ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Rock" To: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 1:06:42 PM Subject: [Fot] TR-4 Engine Bearings? I need to buy a couple sets, who is selling the best ones these days? Thanks, Rich Rock _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 21 14:41:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A92AC4253E for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 14:41:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail201c2.megamailservers.com (mail201c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F9A403F1 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 14:41:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.224.81.245] (168.sub-174-254-114.myvzw.com [174.254.114.168]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail201c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r0LLbAfi023251 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 21 Jan 2013 16:37:12 -0500 References: <1559633391.129150.1358799374265.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> From: John Hasty Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 16:37:08 -0500 To: "toodamnfunky@comcast.net" a=6IKABywLgfUA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=r4OZRlCxvYHUEFUL2dKIzA==:17 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=Zk3OmFfbAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=khfHzRvWWZ-lW-F30S4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=EYE8wTkq5dQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=x46t9oslO7cA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=r4OZRlCxvYHUEFUL2dKIzA==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-4 Engine Bearings? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We have had no problems with mains from Moss. Use coated rod bearings for our Ford modular rods from Manley. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 21, 2013, at 3:16 PM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: > BFE has the Clevite 77 rod bearings. > > jim g > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Rich Rock" > To: fot@autox.team.net > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 1:06:42 PM > Subject: [Fot] TR-4 Engine Bearings? > > I need to buy a couple sets, who is selling the best ones these days? > > Thanks, > > Rich Rock > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 21 15:14:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38AF140419 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 15:14:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm7.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm7.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38A440409 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 15:14:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.198] by nm7.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jan 2013 22:10:09 -0000 Received: from [68.142.198.105] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jan 2013 22:10:09 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jan 2013 22:10:09 -0000 s=s1024; t=1358806209; bh=pOu8IBljdUDeWfRxc8dfArDSZQG/+RfQQbHEiAt9tyE=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Reply-To:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Organization:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=KMDFEub7RaW3YDyhVp43/0KKPQRDqaxtMB3iaP+cZdP+LyvDo8aVDACq6Nea/p9m4eYdF8NrVe7y0S3pCxMc3qkQYB+FVpyXfyVeJvrq03V7lb3q8xefIGIqeP5PBF5flO5um5Fziq6B+KQckVPnvZiwCoKcAJRwbvpcHLcMjeY= psoprfq2crFOkibGMh.PXa.CPqYihaCDAWlvHKtMlqCmnkZcTnekHFH_aSnW JtUopWWPOpurkW.Bff1RPa44_yJwuBxcM7M6jjd4fOLmSIuHppj7W8.nLjn7 nyD32mMjscNKovne09NldyzbshC8lh5pjPAE_fd_k3cPO84IHh9GktikreU. q3LoC8J4VsHoyk1urOLwBzpyRRx3CX3z8foRQzREO2jWhxT1RLt93JR3AqtZ BHkYIOW1EW4P.eMOODxkRsxZQtqjHVTiV8t.B6MQVC1QzAqCU_BHZQm.sGdu m3g.iXJfRnk9Tb9KNU.PEQbXX1z9i5N3xgimWjAr8ePpvW_zRAQuZQC_KQS4 CkNUfWLRDyXOim2BEvYKdMLCU._NdXCOPrr19EsczhVhZTTh_Cbcxn9IHzKq E23CG7kxvn6p_8YJWiXPP3iLuIxUvHThspjkxjBdQaBUYFHc- Received: from HadoLaptop (mhado@108.93.117.23 with login) by smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2013 14:10:09 -0800 PST From: "M&M Hado" To: "'Friends'" , References: <1361331279-1358784505-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1427932625-@b18.c18.bise6.blackberry> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 16:10:04 -0600 Organization: M&M Hado Thread-Index: AQJGiLCpipF6uPxITzh9rUx+LIxx7gI62tFjl1FbUQA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Tranny rebuilt problem looking for a solution Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Chuck, It looks like you have already had some good suggestions to get the washer back in position. To avoid the problem in the first place, I always first turn the EMPTY casing on end, bell housing down, then put the countershaft temporarily in place. It only has to come up through the hole on the bell housing end. I then put some Loctite on the steel side of the thrust washer and place it over the countershaft and down against the casing. A large socket can serve as a weight to hold the washer in place overnight until it is stuck to the casing. Later you can remove the countershaft and the washer will remain firmly in place (and perfectly centered) while you assemble the rest of the gearbox. This is only for the large thrust washer, of course, since the small one has to go in after the cluster is put in place. Mike -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of jeff_durant@comcast.net Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 10:08 AM To: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley; fot-bounces@autox.team.net; Friends; Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Tranny rebuilt problem looking for a solution Chuck, This is a fairly common problem when assembling the TR trans. Try flipping the transmission upside down. This will allow the laygear to rest on the mainshaft gears and hopefully take and load off of the thrust washers. Then carefully move the thrust washer into position. I use a small pick through one of the 2x 5/16" layshaft end plate mounting bolts to rotate and position the thrust washer. This has worked for me many times. Give me a call if you get stuck. Jeff D. TR6 #12 TR250 TR4A Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" To: Friends; Triumph<6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: [Fot] Tranny rebuilt problem looking for a solution spent the afternoon reassembly the tranny for my TR6. All went OK till I tried to put the countershaft back in. The front thrust washer is hanging down about a 32 of an inch and nothing I have tried can move it up that little amount so the counter shaft can come through. I presume the washer has rotated a little such that the dimple is now not aligned with theslot at the top. anybody have any experience with solving this short of taking it all apart again and reassembling? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeff_durant@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 21 16:59:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB40403D9 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 16:59:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mercury.fastbytes.com (mercury.fastbytes.com [216.183.230.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4648C40416 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 16:59:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from TimDellVostro [216.183.226.236] by mercury.fastbytes.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.00) id A55836340046; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 17:55:04 -0600 From: "Tim Murphy" To: , , References: <22d9e.67e0b4c4.3e2eae40@aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 17:54:54 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac335ltOTOWwAQmQRpCM7Myb4wR9lAAS3Q2g Content-Language: en-us Organization: FastBytesWireless Inc. Subject: Re: [Fot] INDUCTION INTO FOT MICHAEL HABERTHUR TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Boy Bill, for your sake I sure hope it was razor blades and not Pontiac Aztecs!! Tim -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BillDentin@aol.com Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 8:44 AM To: n197tr4@cs.com; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] INDUCTION INTO FOT MICHAEL HABERTHUR TR4 In a message dated 01/20/2013 5:25:33 PM Central Standard Time, n197tr4@cs.com writes: > Mike's career was in the Navy for 26 years. Welcome shipmate. I'm a long ago plank owner of the USS Springfield, CLG7 (one of the country's first guided missile cruises, but long since made into razor blades). Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph@fastbytes.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 21 20:55:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2558D403DA for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 20:55:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy13-pub.unifiedlayer.com (oproxy13-pub.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.16.30]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id DDDA3403FC for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 20:36:27 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 28175 invoked by uid 0); 22 Jan 2013 03:32:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO just64.justhost.com) (173.254.28.64) by oproxy13.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2013 03:32:07 -0000 Received: from [173.22.113.197] (port=53066 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TxUaj-0003OL-Az; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 20:32:05 -0700 Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 21:32:07 -0600 To: Rich Rock ,"fot@autox.team.net" From: Tony Drews References: {sentby:smtp auth 173.22.113.197 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-4 Engine Bearings? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I do the tri-metal ones from BPNW and then have them ceramic coated. Tony Drews At 02:06 PM 1/21/2013, Rich Rock wrote: >I need to buy a couple sets, who is selling the best ones these days? > >Thanks, > >Rich Rock >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 22 03:16:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EDD040E29 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 03:16:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SNCMAIL.surfnetusa.com (modusmail.surfnetusa.com [66.151.140.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4DA140409 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 00:53:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from your89d26e0447 (unverified [50.131.247.104]) by SNCMAIL.surfnetusa.com (Vircom SMTPRS 5.0.916.0) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 23:51:20 -0800 From: "Greg Solow" To: "Friends of Triumph" Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 23:49:23 -0800 Organization: Engine Room Subject: [Fot] Fw: Message delayed (mark@bradakis.com) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 12:40 PM Subject: Message delayed (mark@bradakis.com) > Your message has been delayed and is still awaiting delivery > to the following recipient(s): > > mark@bradakis.com > (Was addressed to mark@bradakis.com) > Message delayed > 450 4.7.1 : Helo command rejected: Host not found > > > No recipients were successfully delivered to. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of ATT00046.dat] Received: from surfnetusa.com (unverified [127.0.0.1]) by SNCMAIL.surfnetusa.com (Vircom SMTPRS 5.0.916.0) with ESMTP id for (AUTH = gregmogdoc@surfnetusa.com); Mon, 21 Jan 2013 00:00:31 -0800 From: "gregmogdoc@surfnetusa.com" To: mark@bradakis.com Subject: RE: Re: FoT request from Dave H. Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 00:00:31 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark, Thanks for the response. every Email I have sent to you or FOT for about the last 3 months has been rejected as " server not found, " if I remember correctly. I had given up on getting any response. Greg Solow The Engine Room Sports Car Specialists Santa Cruz, CA 95060 831 429-1800 ------- Original Message ------- >From : Mark J Bradakis[mailto:mark@bradakis.com] Sent : 1/20/2013 3:19:29 PM To : n197tr4@cs.com Cc : dlhogye@comcast.net; gregmogdoc@surfnetusa.com Subject : RE: Re: FoT request from Dave H. If Greg is getting bounces back, they should say exactly what the problem is. But like I said, I have no record of his email address sending messages TO Team.Net. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 22 07:57:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A6C40529 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 07:57:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm14-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm14-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D171A4246F for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 07:57:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.194] by nm14.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jan 2013 14:53:28 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.97] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jan 2013 14:53:28 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1002.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jan 2013 14:53:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 34666 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jan 2013 14:53:28 -0000 s=s1024; t=1358866408; bh=ab7YOkzBeft/OOkl/BrXCj/50BM0NnN+6elFhhCgJaA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vLWYCJZkvsHx//yQy4ILKe97nHwB6pEYFLZSykPEmdv9euIYTTF4qauYkNp8cWMYvNg1qy8zH/Umnt07XFNDXKxoOq4GGucmuShPiUAWvFxx9Tt3eFAAxj+BP1EvXtxBFY79JPX9uXpTg3T2XkMwa5VwWh4ak5TkBccu3nSz9Fw= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jrJsh8C6IbNjGHgMnPPmiqUGbYqAFqU30MGO5qD7+euVjby1KdL40L2OrlRvC0TCzTYkTZcUhlUWcWTnm6ca+Gt+m0IlkXZsLNYBDTR1M7eUW7ZSZR1v4VdTJVvoWlTgZLCDccOtItuaOwH0mxdYMxDHH6sd5mEqKkq6s1gwtI4=; SNXMPb5uxcb_7IalMm7XR Received: from [76.221.83.131] by web182204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 06:53:28 PST bG9va3MgbGlrZSBJJ20gb25lIG9mIHRoZSBsdWNreSA1MDAgc29tZXRoaW5nIHBsdXMgdGhhdCBnb3QgcmVnaXN0ZXJlZCBmb3IgdGhlIApTQ0NBIGV2ZW50IGF0IHRoZSBiZWF1dGlmdWwgQ2lyY3VpdCBvZiB0aGUgQW1lcmljYXMgRjEgdHJhY2sgaW4gQXVzdGluIFRleGFzIHRoZSAKc2Vjb25kIHdlZWtlbmQgaW4gTWFyY2guLi5ub3Qgc3VyZSBob3cgY29tZm9ydGFibGUgbXkgbGl0dGxlIFRyaXVtcGggYnV0dCBpcyAKZ29pbmcgdG8gZmVlbCB3aXRoIDg1IGNhcnMgaW4gR3JvdXAgNyAuLi53b3cuLi4uIHQBMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 06:53:28 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] Circuit of the Americas --COTA-- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net looks like I'm one of the lucky 500 something plus that got registered for the SCCA event at the beautiful Circuit of the Americas F1 track in Austin Texas the second weekend in March...not sure how comfortable my little Triumph butt is going to feel with 85 cars in Group 7 ...wow.... the DLB site has the specifics and entrants list... this should be literally epic.... one of my best friends works NASCAR and has stated it's the nicest facility in the country.....Bobby Whitehead _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 22 10:31:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB4342560 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 10:31:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (imr-mb01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.164]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595D540E19 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 10:27:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.12]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 2D12C1C000108 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 12:23:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mte001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mte001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.236.65]) by mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E5A34E000081 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 12:23:42 -0500 (EST) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 12:23:41 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358875423; bh=0yLXPI17IRx4yWqQlhpfUjYiiU61mq/cs0tiuyekMjM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JEI6mHU2JA/bTukSba2Fyj0erdXg32IMM7Qi7ondmf41cFHJyURtuLAPArCZW7oRN q2egD+jk5QlxykTYmiQnPBeuB/49AuzqIME4Ss9mPQ6PtqEIBqOmGf5QpsTPoMdeKh SFI2Swb90hUua/48qQiJTwH000dSEPWaqf5PA3AI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290c50fecb1e3a21 Subject: [Fot] Sportscar 71.2 February 2013... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici... SCCA's current issue of SPORTSCAR has items of potential interest. The obits for John Fitch, Lanky Foushee, and Bob Youngdahl on pages 64 and 65. Of course Fitch and Foushee are icons and need no highlight here, but many of us ought to have also known SCCA and vintage racer Bob Youngdahl. Bob usually raced a fast Elva Courier, but had a barn full of cars. While a Minnesota native, he also raced on the national scene, especially in Florida, where he had a winter home. His death was particularly sad because it was neither natural nor racing. He was killed unloading his race trailer (hit in the head by the ramp door). I have long been a believer that dealing with towing and trailers is every bit as dangerous as the racing (loading, unloading, changing tires roadside, etc.) we do. There is often a tendency for us to take short cuts or skip safe practice when dealing with tasks that we do over and over again. This especially true when we are alone. Be careful! Finally, glance at page 86 (last page) and the SCCA 'ROOTS' section. There is a black and white picture from the 1983 issue of SPORTSCAR showing what appears to be a very nice TR4A race car covered with snow. There's a racer standing along side in his driver's suit and balaclava...staring up at the sky. No identification info in the caption. Ironically the SCCA decal is displayed upside down on the car (probably something done on purpose in case of a roll over), but that seems to be what the SCCA was preoccupied with. At the time their caption was "It's not nice to fool with your SCCA sticker..." Anyone have any idea who that might be back in 1983? Seems like we ought to know him. The racer's name is listed on the door, but I can't make it out. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 22 11:03:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D357542540 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 11:03:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.197]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C32BB40559 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 11:03:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from wm12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (wm12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.10.19]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0MH1007NSGMFJUT0@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for FOT@autox.team.net; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 12:59:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from [67.83.138.75] by webtop.webmail.optimum.net with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 12:59:03 -0500 Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 12:59:03 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Redmond To: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Subject: [Fot] Rear Oil seal conversion Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici, I see BPNW has a rear seal conversion at almost half the price of other suppliers, ie Moss etc. Has anyone used the BPNW part? Any issues or concerns? Thanks in advance Todd Redmond TR 3A TS 29341 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 22 11:35:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E39C440EBE for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 11:35:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A83240559 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 11:35:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.36]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id r0UQ1k0050mlR8UA16X8fV; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:31:08 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id r6X71k01M2xZMJ48X6X7Cw; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:31:08 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:31:07 +0000 (UTC) From: To: "FOT@autox.team.net" , Todd s=q20121106; t=1358879468; bh=HcxA0+ywidfPQFkbB17MhvJy+fH9QCqGKMBkafMUTjw=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=NyOZRdc2eKkWj+FmlVVzB8mR9yS2uV8w/H1oivMB3DUUC0rKTKh+hILT7iIjiiamf tmGqLde2lfIDWkl20jTpkXucBmeWtGyqAwm2Qi4q5X6dJj0tOZd5foK/UG+Earm/6t lutxrzHtnBfRsoVBxqdJ81/JKBnch9Et1Jdzcc234PO3yyeXYyxjKHWSF6qBCfBaKp NV3N/NbRZTckNYt204IqVTViGQCv+EulFD+PGKwOOexQckM1rBF6qyHHZk0TkC6EUe HJ2cVxOtNRjPd5/NPbwOqcYhWMTxt12juZt9wyou89svDwQYglIFb0gPJwJFYaK9Dr 4zzpQVRrH7eXQ== Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear Oil seal conversion Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I bought mine from them and so far it's not leaking. Quick, where is some wood? Dave H. TS46235L Engine TS31005E Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App -----Original Message----- From: Todd Redmond To: FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net Sent: 2013-01-22 17:59:46 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Rear Oil seal conversion Amici, I see BPNW has a rear seal conversion at almost half the price of other suppliers, ie Moss etc. Has anyone used the BPNW part? Any issues or concerns? Thanks in advance Todd Redmond TR 3A TS 29341 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 22 12:08:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3127342588 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 12:08:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm18-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm18-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38AB540442 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 12:02:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.49] by nm18.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jan 2013 18:58:40 -0000 Received: from [98.138.86.156] by tm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jan 2013 18:58:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1014.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jan 2013 18:58:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 60399 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jan 2013 18:58:40 -0000 s=s1024; t=1358881120; bh=SQCMGV+lMC72UgCCGLT/Fz6FOmU7j0Z4bndumDD0kRs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5pZ6RhOEA8YAZCQ8+ARGaKruwRz96uH8RIvpo0SpUtbcY9OxpsK8CsjOJFFyJzCIVRCnCtew3HDPlQZ2IRORG6osW105LVdErl2VeG9X1pUv18rs03XWkSJ7fBYZ6rgu4FhkmFgrsfDQy49PAL/qETu0eeIQzmcUZmceRBSwznw= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZyNjVfwinwRzZbV8RfQP609M/rOFMcOx/y3d7ElgVbpCUuhIgPfb3im9yfZYHyRif/RyG7wCArTi+eI/xkOm9Bw8XheJf7Nm5wJs2VJDlrNg9iE/s3PksE4F1I1VYLo6RFQPQV3uU9ho96Jg/BoS7lh65a+nA4lOtcZH5WKIl9c=; JBTwac9qAtGVcmwAwBhwLRhL9Ku8oy8QZz2.Xnubdpt7OP.RHrNK2aHi3mq_ MOC.zykJGVXdQhzlMDETRqtyTD6i3nxMLchN1Dy_5BSGcNKhbzmb28V.O8K6 D4eUjAeGsv.qtugDU1D2IVyhrcvNBqYiK.gy_oR242bnjk9ssUwFvW9cAFjb cshilngkbImyHkjQPaYIExKvx1tx92Mp_VDLlcTIB3j9P88GpPGenUD.4uEQ xcIEtizRFVJ5F6yiq0w1MWiUSkRO.72z6LTEdb.4Syu2aVmDrsU2RtOZKqaL 4P72kdykIT7P5IWA14AoxK8TYBH4We0PRkcrHrLSpNc4G1uASSSnawGD2Dae 0ZXE4arxH8QqyvFHUdWr1P8eopU7keoZVgnA6IFL7OVNanWO7ndp0MWQPF7E H.zb3xWSaXyCMUt6Y_jTg6UgTzf1.CNJFWboZNN0hQLC3uXh2q.JOBAAl6jp QXJwhbf6nPZVkPDD1hgSxn0Bh40KPK_N3Zk1pdCiLCywtU_e0_XgDhblJxYw - Received: from [76.103.189.88] by web121904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 10:58:40 PST SSdtIGluIHRoZSBwcm9jZXNzIG9mIGRvaW5nIGEgZnJhbWUtb2ZmIG9mIGEgNjcnIFNwaXQgTWsuMi7CoCBGcm9udCBzdXNwZW5zaW9uIGlzIG5lYXJseSBjb21wbGV0ZSwgYnV0IEkgbmVlZCBuZXcgYnJha2UgY2FsaXBlcnMuIFNvdXJjZT8gQWxzbywgSSB3b3VsZCBsaWtlIHRvIGFkZCBuZWdhdGl2ZSBjYW1iZXIgdG8gdGhlIHJlYXIgc3VzcGVuc2lvbi4gU2hvcnRlciBzcHJpbmc_wqAgTmV4dCBjb21lIHRoZSByZWFyIGF4bGVzOyBjYW4ndCBkaXNhc3NlbWJsZSBleGlzdGluZyBhZnRlciBzaXR0aW5nIDIBMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 10:58:40 -0800 (PST) From: robert greer To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] Spitfire MK. 2 parts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm in the process of doing a frame-off of a 67' Spit Mk.2. Front suspension is nearly complete, but I need new brake calipers. Source? Also, I would like to add negative camber to the rear suspension. Shorter spring? Next come the rear axles; can't disassemble existing after sitting 20 years. Exchange service? This will be a street car as I have already raced 20 years $$$! Other than that, the car is 100% there with minimal rust inside boot valance. Bob Greer @ robonglen @ yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 22 12:36:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A7940557 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 12:36:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s18.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s18.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.93]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595AA40533 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 12:36:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU402-EAS377 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s18.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 22 Jan 2013 11:32:09 -0800 References: <4dbd.1a2bd1cb.3e30251c@aol.com> From: Sam Halkias Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 14:32:03 -0500 To: "BillDentin@aol.com" FILETIME=[2B9A4500:01CDF8D7] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Sportscar 71.2 February 2013... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It's Fletcher Williams and the car is a TR250. Sam On Jan 22, 2013, at 12:27 PM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > Amici... > > SCCA's current issue of SPORTSCAR has items of potential interest. > > The obits for John Fitch, Lanky Foushee, and Bob Youngdahl on pages 64 and > 65. Of course Fitch and Foushee are icons and need no highlight here, but > many of us ought to have also known SCCA and vintage racer Bob Youngdahl. > Bob usually raced a fast Elva Courier, but had a barn full of cars. While a > Minnesota native, he also raced on the national scene, especially in Florida, > where he had a winter home. His death was particularly sad because it was > neither natural nor racing. He was killed unloading his race trailer (hit > in the head by the ramp door). I have long been a believer that dealing with > towing and trailers is every bit as dangerous as the racing (loading, > unloading, changing tires roadside, etc.) we do. There is often a tendency for > us to take short cuts or skip safe practice when dealing with tasks that we > do over and over again. This especially true when we are alone. Be > careful! > > Finally, glance at page 86 (last page) and the SCCA 'ROOTS' section. There > is a black and white picture from the 1983 issue of SPORTSCAR showing what > appears to be a very nice TR4A race car covered with snow. There's a racer > standing along side in his driver's suit and balaclava...staring up at the > sky. No identification info in the caption. Ironically the SCCA decal is > displayed upside down on the car (probably something done on purpose in case > of a roll over), but that seems to be what the SCCA was preoccupied with. At > the time their caption was "It's not nice to fool with your SCCA > sticker..." Anyone have any idea who that might be back in 1983? Seems like we > ought to know him. The racer's name is listed on the door, but I can't make it > out. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/atr6racer@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 22 13:20:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD02B40E24 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 13:20:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3D6640554 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 13:17:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id r1zs1k0020b6N64A28DE3p; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 20:13:14 +0000 Received: from sz0004.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id r8DD1k0112xZMJ48P8DD1M; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 20:13:14 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 20:13:13 +0000 (UTC) From: toodamnfunky@comcast.net To: dlhogye@comcast.net (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) s=q20121106; t=1358885594; bh=5AwoBGXZb/hAjtU7ka5UfoUS0gD8D5aXzl2Jiht0j90=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=SIslISMI1J12FcR8x3PmpUumek07bvrnrArzHnEPtM9ue8vdyheCk0ypmA1k8Tz06 kWvMXHcPyJXI38SOBuwxNgPfPEck2LIUxir3+nX3Wh/7BPmj3Fcv3EgHzelOa0W+y3 2VQsWGx6jb3x4Wj0/6yrw9itCQOJe+DYPoVyfDrt3YWdzaxOH3XAXYfDjP4XrSo+8K wd607n3EIFPfWgGgQ2XBuY30nLxyIuCxdiTnzWAp68/rWAJiTUhdPf0bhXGLa+ZHNH ltuvfE9Nrx9JK4J2pHK8aQWxCWvDwkckISMR6DvWQt9JszWNy5Dbu3kOq+9b9EKCi8 VKHqwIPTcjoEA== Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear Oil seal conversion Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Dave, yeah you should find some wood quick, teak preferrably. Knock four times, turn three times and spit. Then say there's no such thing as a leak free triumph. The last time I said " no leaks " was in Hastings, NE. It was leak free until ten minutes later when I rolled out to the grid and blew my oil cooler and didn't know it. I left a BIG trail for a 1/4 mile through the paddock from the front door of my RV right up to my grid position. Glad I have an accusump. The corner workers that cleaned the mess up still give me the birdB when I pass by or I hear, "hey how's the Exxon Valdeze running these days". jim g ----- Original Message ----- From: dlhogye@comcast.net To: FOT@autox.team.net, "Todd" Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 11:31:07 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear Oil seal conversion I bought mine from them and so far it's not leaking. B Quick, where is some wood? Dave H. TS46235L Engine TS31005E Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App -----Original Message----- From: Todd Redmond To: FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net Sent: 2013-01-22 17:59:46 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Rear Oil seal conversion Amici, I see BPNW has a rear seal conversion at almost half the price of other suppliers, ie Moss etc. B Has anyone used the BPNW part? B Any issues or concerns? Thanks in advance Todd Redmond TR 3A B TS 29341 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 22 15:16:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA1942569 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:16:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D205B403F5 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:15:54 -0700 (MST) a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:17 a=a1-zNaUMPu0A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=2Mr_fjT364sA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=D6n-XKMZAdDoRjMgus4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:117 Received: from [75.86.207.181] ([75.86.207.181:62216] helo=HPLaptop) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id D2/6A-08009-E9E0FF05; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 22:11:42 +0000 From: "Steve Yott" To: "'Todd Redmond'" , Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:11:40 -0600 Organization: Silver Lake Triumphs Thread-Index: Ac34yjktzkROikrLRXesP8gi2oFbrgAIiyZw Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear Oil seal conversion Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net As far as I know the rear oil seal conversion provided by BPNW consists of the same parts as provided by the others. These work well but you must have the scroll on the crankshaft ground down to the provided specification and polished for a lip type seal. I have been using the MARX seal setup on the last few engines I have built with great success! With this setup the crankshaft scroll remains and all that is needed is a quick polishing of the rear most surface where the MARX lip seal rides. ARE sells the kit and I believe TRF now handles this kit as well. The existing rear seal (aluminum halves) need to be machined to accept the MARX seal which is not a hard job to do and I built a jig for my mill which does a good job. ARE is also selling new build aluminum seal parts that are already machined. If you have not yet removed the scroll surface from the crankshaft I highly recommend this seal system as it provides the best of both worlds!!! Steve Yott -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Todd Redmond Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 11:59 AM To: FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Rear Oil seal conversion Amici, I see BPNW has a rear seal conversion at almost half the price of other suppliers, ie Moss etc. Has anyone used the BPNW part? Any issues or concerns? Thanks in advance Todd Redmond TR 3A TS 29341 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 22 15:38:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8985642568 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:38:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com (imr-db01.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D98403E8 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:35:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9FF8538000220; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 17:30:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msa003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.73]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 5998FE000085; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 17:30:58 -0500 (EST) References: To: tr4@wi.rr.com, alfetta95@optonline.net, FOT@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com (205.188.168.25) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 22 Jan 2013 17:30:56 -0500 Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 17:30:58 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358893858; bh=3d/1b+jOPs3JuMS9CxgN9tabV1VmNUhIo83HxFQNZCI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TrfyRkq5uMpqxJZ+/TmrCAhbaUhGuuodgHOu+GVOwPS/biqrOkzWGCN41A5gUBAhv wXYyrqDwdF0J0TV6t3rRmUbKt4PtS7C+7V1jmuVfJmKtlHjFtA69o3TIktat1bktto 1upd2oNFCVZy12zrtJkbMXBs9CCmuYTrov3yx61k= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c750ff13226601 Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear Oil seal conversion Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Steve, Christian and I are now providing the SCROLL to Chris' specifications in new billet material. While re-manufacturing the old OEM SEALS works well, they consume a lot of time and we are trying phase them out. It got the project started, tho. Now that the volume is up, we are FINALLY arriving in the black after a couple of years of break even. Thanks to Kas, as well, for supporting this project, in his latest book, "KAS KASTNER'S TRIUMPHS. In fact he has an entire chapter on 'avoiding leaks in the wet sleeve engines'. Worth the price of the book, by itself. Thanks for the order, Todd. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Steve Yott To: 'Todd Redmond' ; FOT Sent: Tue, Jan 22, 2013 4:12 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear Oil seal conversion As far as I know the rear oil seal conversion provided by BPNW consists of the same parts as provided by the others. These work well but you must have the scroll on the crankshaft ground down to the provided specification and polished for a lip type seal. I have been using the MARX seal setup on the last few engines I have built with great success! With this setup the crankshaft scroll remains and all that is needed is a quick polishing of the rear most surface where the MARX lip seal rides. ARE sells the kit and I believe TRF now handles this kit as well. The existing rear seal (aluminum halves) need to be machined to accept the MARX seal which is not a hard job to do and I built a jig for my mill which does a good job. ARE is also selling new build aluminum seal parts that are already machined. If you have not yet removed the scroll surface from the crankshaft I highly recommend this seal system as it provides the best of both worlds!!! Steve Yott -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Todd Redmond Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 11:59 AM To: FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Rear Oil seal conversion Amici, I see BPNW has a rear seal conversion at almost half the price of other suppliers, ie Moss etc. Has anyone used the BPNW part? Any issues or concerns? Thanks in advance Todd Redmond TR 3A TS 29341 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 22 16:09:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9164D42570 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:09:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F3F40E27 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:06:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 922D01C0000EF for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:02:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-ded002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-ded002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.54.5]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 683A7E00008F for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:02:11 -0500 (EST) References: <1358881120.48718.YahooMailNeo@web121904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: fot@autox.team.net From: robertten1@aol.com Received: from 96.233.64.253 by webmail-m049.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.81) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:02:10 -0500 Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:02:11 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358895731; bh=OKTzjzy7PQcg++IhJZogc9zuhSTjNpLdoZPPJ83t9CI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NLeoXHun0pU8lZUc0Oyfgj1krseilVFxDSf37Jt3YqHPYy/w1fgz7UO+6j6Ev/iVD /kAhMNEbEUzbhMR1QncsfMdg/xglxF4WgPJsa6uLzJI8hkfs6Uw5ow+J3+S6nnRY2x tnlYQHNhZiJXIiL7dZGjnMEPI6mQo2MwqtrGxD90= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c50ff1a735f4b Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire MK. 2 parts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Rob, Calipers are available from most Triumph Parts Suppliers, TRF is offering a rebuilding service for same. As for the rear spring you could have it de-arched a bit, there are spacers that go between the spring and diff ( keep the spring alone ) or could buy a modified spring from the same parts suppliers. As for the rear axles you could ask around if some one has the correct Factory Tool for separating the hub from the axle ( NOTE I would not recommend taking them to a machine shop or bearing shop to perform this task - in 20+ years no one I know has had success, Hubs were ruined ). This Hub Puller Tool is available for sale from a few of the Triumph Parts Suppliers. I have seen some ads from LBC repair shops offering their Rebuilding Service to recondition our Spits axles. I must ask is your car a real Mk2 or a '67 (Mk3) one easy way to tell : Front Bumper below the Grills or above the Front Marker Lights ? Recerch of the Vin Number is the correct way to tell for sure. I ask as there is a difference between the early Mk1 & Mk2 Calipers and the Mk3 & later Calipers. Best O Luck, Bob T '63 Spit Mk1 '64 Spit GT autocrosser -----Original Message----- From: robert greer To: fot Sent: Tue, Jan 22, 2013 2:04 pm Subject: [Fot] Spitfire MK. 2 parts I'm in the process of doing a frame-off of a 67' Spit Mk.2. Front suspension s nearly complete, but I need new brake calipers. Source? Also, I would like o add negative camber to the rear suspension. Shorter spring? Next come the ear axles; can't disassemble existing after sitting 20 years. Exchange ervice? This will be a street car as I have already raced 20 years $$$! ther than that, the car is 100% there with minimal rust inside boot valance. ob Greer @ robonglen @ yahoo.com ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 22 17:45:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88BA24257C for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 17:45:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com (outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com [64.136.47.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 53BBF40561 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 17:45:01 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1358901649; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=JYsEgjIoiiLBfL2gttCeff/qd/++dVyQ3Rd5JkuvGo03S45mMDQSnvm+lBO5YV0Hu 3gZRPFcZOVSAKufre9I3rFdZharFJfzK16JS19HptTGVBCx/3CsLbwEGiRlvJdcwfp qdQ4GHDmA1jRiNY6zzqcVMpOQXviUlgU7G13v0bU= Received: from outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com (webmail05.dca.untd.com [10.171.12.145]) by smtpout01.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABJR8NLZAS99QC2 for (sender ); Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:39:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [76.23.185.62] by webmail05.dca.untd.com with HTTP: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 00:38:35 GMT From: "Joe Boruch" Full-Name: "Joe Boruch" Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 00:38:35 GMT To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 deck height Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net With a billet crank and Pauter rods I use a 0.010 inch deck height, plus allow 0.022 for the head gasket. I have run as little as 0.007 deck, but had impressions of the head on top of the pistons. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Jim Gray" To: "'FoT Triumph'" Subject: [Fot] TR4 deck height Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:27:14 -0700 Greetings FoT, I was curious as to what the group likes to run for deck height or piston to head clearance assuming forged rods and stock crank are used. I have heard everywhere from zero to .040 Thanks as always, jim g _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 22 18:48:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9C24258E for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:48:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E56CA40561 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:48:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63562A07B7 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:46:17 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:46:16 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/17.0 SeaMonkey/2.14.1 To: Friends of Triumph References: Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Message delayed (mark@bradakis.com) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Greg Solow wrote: >> Your message has been delayed and is still awaiting delivery >> to the following recipient(s): >> >> mark@bradakis.com >> (Was addressed to mark@bradakis.com) >> Message delayed >> 450 4.7.1 : Helo command rejected: Host not found >> Looks like someone at surfnet fixed it, your mail is no longer coming from a computer with bogus address information. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 22 19:37:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B9742591 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 19:37:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc4-s16.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s16.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.219]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E752B4056B for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 19:37:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT120-W2 ([65.55.90.201]) by snt0-omc4-s16.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:32:53 -0800 From: Kas Kastner To: , "toodamnfunky@comcast.net" Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 02:32:53 +0000 References: <20130122.193835.2889.1@webmail05.dca.untd.com> FILETIME=[F23AEA40:01CDF911] Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 deck height Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Impression in the carbon is just right. Never be beaten by equipment > From: jaboruch@netzero.net > Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 00:38:35 +0000 > To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 deck height > > With a billet crank and Pauter rods I use a 0.010 inch deck height, plus allow > 0.022 for the head gasket. I have run as little as 0.007 deck, but had > impressions of the head on top of the pistons. Joe(B) > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: "Jim Gray" > To: "'FoT Triumph'" > Subject: [Fot] TR4 deck height > Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:27:14 -0700 > > Greetings FoT, > > I was curious as to what the group likes to run for deck height or piston to > head clearance > > assuming forged rods and stock crank are used. > > I have heard everywhere from zero to .040 > > Thanks as always, > > jim g > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net > > ____________________________________________________________ > Woman is 53 But Looks 25 > Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 22 21:15:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABCB84257F for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 21:15:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEDA8424DC for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:33:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b%11]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 11:29:44 -0600 From: "Barr, Scott" To: "'toodamnfunky@comcast.net'" , Scott Janzen Thread-Topic: [Fot] GT6 six inch wheels and dot racing tires floow up on R888's Thread-Index: AQHN9/qXk8dkcQTwB0uNtWlz3NoPfJhUCPHA Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 17:29:44 +0000 References: <1FC9937A-D158-4505-A7DB-D3A9EADCE66A@me.com> <40225089.120920.1358788237361.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 six inch wheels and dot racing tires floow up on R888's Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hmmm. I have used the RA-1s on the Spitfire in the past, but understood that they were no longer available and that the R888s were the replacement. Maybe the vendor I talked to only had the R888s to sell? I found both the RA-1s and the R888s to be better than the Yokohama A048s, though. And I like all of those better than the Hoosiers. Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of toodamnfunky@comcast.net Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 11:11 AM To: Scott Janzen Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 six inch wheels and dot racing tires floow up on R888's Just FYI, The Toyo RA-1's are viewed as a better tire in the SCCA. In 2011 SCCA/SM went to the R888's as a spec tire but after a ton of negative feedback from the drivers the SCCA went back to the RA-1 for 2012. The RA-1 is an R compound and do in fact get faster as they wear. Spec Miata drivers typically have them shaved way down before they run em. I've used them and am a big fan of the RA-1 and I have no direct experience with the R888 other than other drivers feedback. jim g ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Janzen" To: jkhagen@charter.net Cc: "'Friends of Triumph' Triumph" Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 6:28:09 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 six inch wheels and dot racing tires I'm running the chromoly spindles sourced from Joe Siam, along with his alloy hubs. B switched to the hubs when a bearing race started spinning in one of the stock ones. you can use Toyo R888, 205/60-13 tires if you want radials. B They almost last too long - there's still plenty of tread left after several race weekends, but after a certain number B of heat cycles (I need to count this) they lose some grip. B Still drivable, but definitely not as good. A lot of the spridget people seem to run them too, though 185s, and I have seen a Yenko Corvair running 13" wheels with the same tire. There's not much else out there that fits - some very expensive Avons are all that I have found. On Jan 18, 2013, at 9:32 AM, jkhagen@charter.net wrote: GT-6 People--The front spindle shafts on the GT-6 are different [beefier] than even B TR-3-4. B Has anyone have to upgrade these? B Make any sense to machine outer part of the shaft to accept TR-4 bearing and use TR-4 hubs etc etc. B Would be similar to the re-inforcing sleeve concept. B Have seen it done through my TVR experience. B Comments? B John Hagen On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 9:08 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > Hoosier tires... They have 3 or 4 regional distributors for street > T.D.S and panasport wheels have 2 different backspacing options (talked w someone there last year). Both have easy info websites. > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: jeffwhall@aol.com > Sender: fot-bounces@autox.team.netDate: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:59:45 To: ; ; > Subject: [Fot] six inch wheels and dot racing tires > > Hay guys, > > Does anyone have resources for a GT6 racing tires and six inch rims? > > Jeff Hall > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barr, Scott > To: jerrybarr ; fot@autox.team.net friends > > Sent: Thu, Jan 17, 2013 5:38 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Front Shocks > > > Yes, they are a good idea. B I am all for them. > > Scott B. > > Scott Barr > McCarty Law LLP > (920) 257-2233 > www.mccarty-law.com > > > -----Original message----- > From: Jerry Barr > To: "fot@autox.team.net friends" > Sent: Fri, Jan 18, 2013 00:31:43 GMT+00:00 > Subject: [Fot] Front Shocks > > > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffwhall@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 23 01:41:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58025425A4 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 01:41:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SNCMAIL.surfnetusa.com (modusmail.surfnetusa.com [66.151.140.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5580C4068E for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 01:41:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from your89d26e0447 (unverified [50.131.247.104]) by SNCMAIL.surfnetusa.com (Vircom SMTPRS 5.0.916.0) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 00:39:16 -0800 From: "Greg Solow" To: "Friends of Triumph" , "Mark J Bradakis" Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 00:37:18 -0800 Organization: Engine Room Subject: [Fot] Email communication test Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a test Email to see if my posts will get though to fot. It was sent at 12:30 am Wednesday January 23.It is addressed to the fot and to Mark. I hope it gets through! Greg Solow The Engine Room Morgan & Sports Car Specialists Santa Cruz, Calif. 95060 831 429-1800 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 23 05:15:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744CA40569 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 05:15:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2C1840569 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 05:15:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.12]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B791C1C000066; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 07:11:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msa003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.73]) by mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 80678E000081; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 07:11:16 -0500 (EST) References: <9A2F975A52EE47E8A77AF0039638C1F6@your89d26e0447> To: gregmogdoc@surfnetusa.com, FOT@autox.team.net, mark@bradakis.com Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d172.sysops.aol.com (205.188.162.235) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 23 Jan 2013 07:11:16 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 07:11:16 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1358943076; bh=8baSM6P8ogvTgvz3jlKA0zi5iuS4quSUmgCf43IgJsM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IFj0uRa5Vp/bd8SiVlyY+94zr7CommMPO8pqwP48YpQ6pFGA+QLIpFuDfpVYEhH+K fVZDVApxs1lR3DGmpI/IGZc4UgAN2i9vYdt9OvSTczwyFINtkh26k3T8ZrfPfN03d3 oEAWIWFuIJBNNmCLmiY65DcMgLzbaz5F40HzYAps= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290c50ffd3644f52 Subject: Re: [Fot] Email communication test Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net yup Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Greg Solow To: Friends of Triumph ; Mark J Bradakis Cc: davehogye ; Joe Alexander Sent: Wed, Jan 23, 2013 2:37 am Subject: Email communication test This is a test Email to see if my posts will get though to fot. It was sent at 12:30 am Wednesday January 23.It is addressed to the fot and to Mark. I hope it gets through! Greg Solow The Engine Room Morgan & Sports Car Specialists Santa Cruz, Calif. 95060 831 429-1800 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 23 06:21:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F1A425B0 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 06:21:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f42.google.com (mail-qa0-f42.google.com [209.85.216.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B261340698 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 06:21:15 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id hg5so527487qab.15 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 05:17:00 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=JXaQMDs9ooXpWOM7oPrydeXBbJ+YXXLgcUtBWjeKh0A=; b=S0xWFAJnbY8JZtEFd00jtqKPBRmQs71Ozcbk122J0F4T8Zs63BGAVLD25ODAs90NTa ChMgUX5HlQuAwAuRyXolRs6Uw//ppQkKgOhrsR9G4CMtQS2pIhKSZUrPy4tNs7YTdlyh DtPrikfG1/WlHrPBdTTIv5GuCHRO94T62gXOABDSSbJ3omhiXGPTbpRLc7FRDFej+1mO RalKR1hfbsf3FO6L/1qbPSvN8oFCIfPan8FZ/RDXMTz4cYtW4FPHFe1iE5S0Th9TKlLV CxuAGIsBGAB1fDdhQUY0AUcuuAENKPbgQNqw+IgSv0vqftxG2f34zdhdwTZzoRVg7/VD jWqg== l7mr1699571qah.25.1358947020238; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 05:17:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.59.108 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 05:17:00 -0800 (PST) References: <9A2F975A52EE47E8A77AF0039638C1F6@your89d26e0447> <8CFC779E0EB6E91-D20-2E40F@webmail-d172.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 08:17:00 -0500 From: Robert Deanes To: Joe Alexander Cc: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Email communication test Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Nice to hear from you, Greg ! On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > yup > > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Solow > To: Friends of Triumph ; Mark J Bradakis > > Cc: davehogye ; Joe Alexander > Sent: Wed, Jan 23, 2013 2:37 am > Subject: Email communication test > > > This is a test Email to see if my posts will get though to fot. It was > sent at > 12:30 am Wednesday January 23.It is addressed to the fot > and to Mark. I hope it gets through! > Greg Solow > The Engine Room > Morgan & Sports Car Specialists > Santa Cruz, Calif. 95060 > 831 429-1800 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 23 06:30:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B7C5406B3 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 06:30:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f171.google.com (mail-ie0-f171.google.com [209.85.223.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D93B40698 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 06:30:18 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f171.google.com with SMTP id 9so9803472iec.30 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 05:26:04 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=DeYD5i6wKzDQdxJZybq9389n/jYQfSB0Qe62NOaJYvc=; b=NBDquiENhnTcw/uOihOK0bEwbWBKludVtTDICwelTD/qmZKKSpSYC/1lRDbrdVAMFV o8rgm2xz9LlFvz2ncwfOMGfDYFmPZRHxfcnQgVon6wU6wEyesBH5UchTZyXpFjX4eQas KQ7i8DWVUL1peSuAxAvLHAqwvc5tg4hxMoALR4foKWIWKiH/VVHHPqwmu4S6C5m74w9g fJZoUwZsjd5NtaczR6hhijPhFNoS7tzwZcXihPS9Gu479qxIXrBLslxo7iEogKfje2jh Z2mWQMXtD9VBBe7AUuinSpaWbSvT1liwP8LbQjLaJi9NmoBbV8tR+HcWoa3vT8LCd8nz tDKA== q5mr1023966igj.109.1358947564230; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 05:26:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.131.229 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 05:25:24 -0800 (PST) From: Don Marshall Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 08:25:24 -0500 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Road Atlanta Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Who else is coming to the VDCA event at Road Atlanta next month? Don _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 23 06:30:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18FB427E1 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 06:30:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.o2.co.uk (vader.london.02.net [82.132.130.150]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4F5427BA for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 06:30:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.248.133.136] (82.132.246.129) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.5.140.03) id 50D6EDD208C1BF1E; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 13:26:16 +0000 References: <20130122.193835.2889.1@webmail05.dca.untd.com> From: TR4 Tony Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 12:52:07 +0000 To: Kas Kastner Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 deck height Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi all We run 8 thou with a steel crank , carillo rods. Flat top Venoila pistons and a very modified head on my TR4. As a consequence the engine 'drinks' a little and now and again when fresh and a tiny water seepage can be seen on the middle head studs where there is a bit more pressure, but its a small price to pay. This beds in after a while via gunge movement but teaches you to monitor the levels in the header tanks in the meantime. Regards Tony Sent from my iPhone On 23 Jan 2013, at 02:32, Kas Kastner wrote: > Impression in the carbon is just right. > > Never be beaten by equipment >> From: jaboruch@netzero.net >> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 00:38:35 +0000 >> To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net >> CC: fot@autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 deck height >> >> With a billet crank and Pauter rods I use a 0.010 inch deck height, plus > allow >> 0.022 for the head gasket. I have run as little as 0.007 deck, but had >> impressions of the head on top of the pistons. Joe(B) >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------- >> From: "Jim Gray" >> To: "'FoT Triumph'" >> Subject: [Fot] TR4 deck height >> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:27:14 -0700 >> >> Greetings FoT, >> >> I was curious as to what the group likes to run for deck height or piston > to >> head clearance >> >> assuming forged rods and stock crank are used. >> >> I have heard everywhere from zero to .040 >> >> Thanks as always, >> >> jim g >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Woman is 53 But Looks 25 >> Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas@cox.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 23 06:46:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02F6427C3 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 06:46:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm4-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm4-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.138]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B85B0406AF for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 06:46:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.195] by nm4.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jan 2013 13:41:46 -0000 Received: from [68.142.198.104] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jan 2013 13:41:46 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jan 2013 13:41:46 -0000 s=s1024; t=1358948506; bh=Be/X4w39O4XRsS/FktXxjY3tjnkm0Y1LkFw5BKPEL4g=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=MtKrJRoQ4efd7fN1wm3rvKfTGf6rjACMVffkNz9gvtiEvKW2eoXYsHB1Di1yUDCgSmZk0U95x/PZ714Olnfu29/D8Di1chvC0fyXJfs6P0gBm3VwNF4nTXtJG9ihDqZciP/aA+yhKpIR4iayDjHiAgby1nWmUzhpi7qil3m702o= 9jMHMX1DTkZei.RMYJ3_V5eF6iV9W4XR.._VHuxpoishLvtC.pPYmAOSxWmP .3bmw0Lbbj_jGYFbk2itGx3mHo4.J8rgJxbc7h5rYJfmAqqbHX5DeqNs_Qb3 OOyy0pR42ugo8zBed7ZtEZj1EgSalsZ.X62Itd2u0z9FA0l4WZxvYwcWH4wE pubFq48TSknIY2qq6oPzEXLW906ipxupXpdxF7v9fHhr7fulgu9FeloCBiVF TNXMKY1mMCyJamKCau3RWPt7QrDCY6qyXW.m.860DXsN0uDhZz9HR9FddbVc 6c3nJUzP5c85whyCZUamy4lSAKtMgu0HwwHQw4Jw..mkI7DlZobTykYnuujg ubYqocfa2frnONjqpvlL1RJC7p5nVpF.Lgm7mpyutFBX4ou3aGdb.1oadUnr PxeLjpBjowTMOZ1UBlLBryAF5GElDD1fvx1YwmBGNipBdcAbbwMZbHmJSpmA wKfbNDwLFdcnuQdgqYU0q_6gnFOwffv02ZvI- Received: from richardiipc (tarch@74.176.163.232 with login) by smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Jan 2013 13:41:46 +0000 UTC From: "Richard Taylor" To: "'Don Marshall'" , "'Friends of Triumph'" References: Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 08:42:30 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac35bUBZaE1rpuoGQ1qc//EjYX9V/gAAK7Fg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Road Atlanta Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Trusty 'ole TR-4 #196 has signed up for VDCA Road Atlanta. We expect to be blazingly fast! Richard Taylor -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don Marshall Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 8:25 AM To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Road Atlanta Who else is coming to the VDCA event at Road Atlanta next month? Don _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tarch@bellsouth.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 23 08:02:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE5A7425BF for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 08:02:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.66]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C82F406AF for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 08:02:40 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=eenhlBR6YJZbgII74j3nbwYEttOXmSyoBMOiRxogiJZnPMZyAzv4Bl1aB76ZPKMq; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.43] (helo=elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Ty1mT-0004qa-0J for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:58:25 -0500 Received: from 108.64.186.7 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:58:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 06:58:24 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: steve To: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 deck height Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If any of you are fairly new at this, be warned... With my modified stock crank, Carillo rods, forged Wiseco pistons, and steel-shim head gasket, my piston "kissed" the head at high RPM and I spun a bearing. This happened at the end of a loooooong straight at Auto Club Speedway. There went $1,000 and a bunch of hours. I was trying to achieve close to zero deck height. On the bench, the pistons came up to .003 from the top of the sleeve (this is considered the deck, not the top of the block) Now I'm running one of Mordy's .032 head gaskets for a little more Piston to Head clearance. In one of the older posts, Greg Solow recommends at least .026 total P to H clearance because the stock crank will stretch a little at high rpm and the piston will reach up higher than it does on the engine stand in the garage. ~STEVE -----Original Message----- >From: TR4 Tony >Sent: Jan 23, 2013 4:52 AM >To: Kas Kastner >Cc: fot >Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 deck height > >Hi all > >We run 8 thou with a steel crank , carillo rods. Flat top Venoila pistons and >a very modified head on my TR4. > >As a consequence the engine 'drinks' a little and now and again when fresh and >a tiny water seepage can be seen on the middle head studs where there is a bit >more pressure, but its a small price to pay. This beds in after a while via >gunge movement but teaches you to monitor the levels in the header tanks in >the meantime. > >Regards > >Tony > >Sent from my iPhone > >On 23 Jan 2013, at 02:32, Kas Kastner wrote: > >> Impression in the carbon is just right. >> >> Never be beaten by equipment >>> From: jaboruch@netzero.net >>> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 00:38:35 +0000 >>> To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net >>> CC: fot@autox.team.net >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 deck height >>> >>> With a billet crank and Pauter rods I use a 0.010 inch deck height, plus >> allow >>> 0.022 for the head gasket. I have run as little as 0.007 deck, but had >>> impressions of the head on top of the pistons. Joe(B) >>> >>> ---------- Original Message ---------- >>> From: "Jim Gray" >>> To: "'FoT Triumph'" >>> Subject: [Fot] TR4 deck height >>> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:27:14 -0700 >>> >>> Greetings FoT, >>> >>> I was curious as to what the group likes to run for deck height or piston >> to >>> head clearance >>> >>> assuming forged rods and stock crank are used. >>> >>> I have heard everywhere from zero to .040 >>> >>> Thanks as always, >>> >>> jim g >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> Woman is 53 But Looks 25 >>> Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas@cox.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 23 08:34:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9A6427C0 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 08:34:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f173.google.com (mail-ie0-f173.google.com [209.85.223.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C4714069D for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 08:28:23 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id e13so13876776iej.18 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 07:24:08 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:reply-to:x-priority:sensitivity :importance:subject:to:from:date:content-type:mime-version :x-gm-message-state; bh=NS7y0cMsgkutrstaL0QGLYurM3Dkblj6oCfhxmaHfPY=; b=SOaQ83Nts0xqRIJ1aToImdvFb/fiLDrx1ORdpCpmyR3reDLfg6WEuWkie2u66D2HwW YbsjGto+ptEU28SrRdqLMvuJLMETRoRtnPtHXuPIDxlo806A8+VadVm/C/tjSmLlnR8M PfJ/krYDQyLbNu7P1V79vruUGyBV7NzjFa7ikROWnNMtHSVavksl6iv2pSCYwWEU8D6J ottk3GsBcmxSTlxtroHL+3o7I8g27TJdrEuVUJ7F95F0ydpcWRMhbgFiIIF6YgdeJ4OK 0E1JYjhPruiZZiH8ZLsOzWNGNWHUamnlYM5Pgl7kcyt8SCiWWZWyRSvpBo8LSEXcFF3V tmTA== us15mr1459163igb.10.1358954648768; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 07:24:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.29.196.188 (bda-74-82-80-128.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s3sm14712462igb.14.2013.01.23.07.24.06 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 23 Jan 2013 07:24:07 -0800 (PST) Sensitivity: Normal To: "Greg Solow" ,"Friends of Triumph" ,"Mark J Bradakis" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 15:24:03 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] Email communication test Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yeah, great to have you back. I have often thought you deserve a nice shiny red apple on your engine desk, after some of your thoughtful well explained posts. Glad u r here again Greg! A real FoT asset. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing ------Original Message------ From: Greg Solow To: Friends of Triumph To: Mark J Bradakis ReplyTo: Greg Solow Subject: [Fot] Email communication test Sent: Jan 23, 2013 2:37 AM This is a test Email to see if my posts will get though to fot. It was sent at 12:30 am Wednesday January 23.It is addressed to the fot and to Mark. I hope it gets through! Greg Solow The Engine Room Morgan & Sports Car Specialists Santa Cruz, Calif. 95060 831 429-1800 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 23 08:42:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E17E427B9 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 08:42:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f45.google.com (mail-bk0-f45.google.com [209.85.214.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB56940517 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 08:42:16 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-bk0-f45.google.com with SMTP id i18so835959bkv.18 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 07:38:00 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=IMl3xHqkN3ZA3RHuWNd1H8qGbC1pdqZMoGB3YSJPJ3I=; b=U3eXQ0+M0hrfIUg/v4CC0nSxxG6pKC7v4Oj0aT72IZ6ei1J9GTi9FhprbsZXMLnJXQ SJ3aeGP0MqPrDZtn8YrmRo2mURbXupULHXeQvbhb6wyh5+a0cxPG5bWHr8bsWyl5DLD0 CBKfvYeIjfU+bjmuivKfMyRPAiOwXnHhpuVLA/9ki0xJBFcErqX9fbzGpC7S+9x8eBAO 373E/7bcTSiNI8272vkX4FA5xRT6TWVORlFjD6OJGFY1y8cUL2AUF6Chn3u9pe/JNXxI Wwz3BkN/oob36M+ipkRx9ITK4iNdhkuXnebRJvN3BEoMbtUHBxF8FHWVHohaca4tKygP EOgQ== 14mr596118bko.120.1358955480298; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 07:38:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home (ip-109-41-148-203.web.vodafone.de. [109.41.148.203]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i20sm14510113bkw.5.2013.01.23.07.37.58 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 23 Jan 2013 07:37:59 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: "'fot'" References: <30791491.1358953104995.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 16:38:01 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac35eh4a8u5tZOPGR7igbms3tl519AABTDFw Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 deck height Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Man, you are very brave people in USA. I run a total of 0.0511" just in case of a bearing problem. Surviving of the engine in case of something bad is more important to me than 2 HP more caused by more squish. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von steve Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. Januar 2013 15:58 An: fot Betreff: Re: [Fot] TR4 deck height If any of you are fairly new at this, be warned... With my modified stock crank, Carillo rods, forged Wiseco pistons, and steel-shim head gasket, my piston "kissed" the head at high RPM and I spun a bearing. This happened at the end of a loooooong straight at Auto Club Speedway. There went $1,000 and a bunch of hours. I was trying to achieve close to zero deck height. On the bench, the pistons came up to .003 from the top of the sleeve (this is considered the deck, not the top of the block) Now I'm running one of Mordy's .032 head gaskets for a little more Piston to Head clearance. In one of the older posts, Greg Solow recommends at least .026 total P to H clearance because the stock crank will stretch a little at high rpm and the piston will reach up higher than it does on the engine stand in the garage. ~STEVE -----Original Message----- >From: TR4 Tony >Sent: Jan 23, 2013 4:52 AM >To: Kas Kastner >Cc: fot >Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 deck height > >Hi all > >We run 8 thou with a steel crank , carillo rods. Flat top Venoila >pistons and a very modified head on my TR4. > >As a consequence the engine 'drinks' a little and now and again when >fresh and a tiny water seepage can be seen on the middle head studs >where there is a bit more pressure, but its a small price to pay. This >beds in after a while via gunge movement but teaches you to monitor the >levels in the header tanks in the meantime. > >Regards > >Tony > >Sent from my iPhone > >On 23 Jan 2013, at 02:32, Kas Kastner wrote: > >> Impression in the carbon is just right. >> >> Never be beaten by equipment >>> From: jaboruch@netzero.net >>> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 00:38:35 +0000 >>> To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net >>> CC: fot@autox.team.net >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 deck height >>> >>> With a billet crank and Pauter rods I use a 0.010 inch deck height, >>> plus >> allow >>> 0.022 for the head gasket. I have run as little as 0.007 deck, but >>> had impressions of the head on top of the pistons. Joe(B) >>> >>> ---------- Original Message ---------- >>> From: "Jim Gray" >>> To: "'FoT Triumph'" >>> Subject: [Fot] TR4 deck height >>> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:27:14 -0700 >>> >>> Greetings FoT, >>> >>> I was curious as to what the group likes to run for deck height or >>> piston >> to >>> head clearance >>> >>> assuming forged rods and stock crank are used. >>> >>> I have heard everywhere from zero to .040 >>> >>> Thanks as always, >>> >>> jim g >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> Woman is 53 But Looks 25 >>> Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas@cox.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 23 09:03:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC90425C3 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:03:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A7140E11 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 08:58:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.60]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id rRfa1k00H1HpZEsA1TuDF9; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 15:54:13 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id rTuC1k00N2xZMJ48aTuCn1; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 15:54:13 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 15:54:12 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: jason@multivintage.com s=q20121106; t=1358956453; bh=NQXpdvJvaUIOfziwykfLkdI1zpzX4NrcWNTvT5FAAhI=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=gOLzuD5D89E5Xe0IWDF/HJfMEAODl4CwLbgYaEt2+hAuGhgZ/yxOmFJkK7JaJp7X7 SNE6bajMk+SmIznZdUQ2Jh93xqCoI+KRbJG68/o02aL02lHQbPe77o8m9L4jNZ07Qi MOJZ3KvCNrndU14bP1ExHCdfZh2yIQem/FYACy3ts6XbpRc/fYWZoQSpvWiufFzXal 9pM2Q2eujK7kdwr9gWUCJ3xTpPWjYJm4y9Yiry/J/Ew9rUuu54ew+8Bd4Z4E6GaaCl /PJWugDltYBq+bClQ64IpysYWS3i3iF3cwLLEehpR312tNhJGrWuwlf9fDRpQoU6gK kcJXzUW8H/MZw== Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Email communication test Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hip Hip Hurray ! Yes, a whole bushel basket ...and a couple dozen eggs. Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- From: jason@multivintage.com To: "Greg Solow" , "Friends of Triumph" , "Mark J Bradakis" Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 7:24:03 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Email communication test Yeah, great to have you back. I have often thought you deserve a nice shiny red apple on your engine desk, after some of your thoughtful well explained posts. Glad u r here again Greg! A real FoT asset. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing ------Original Message------ From: Greg Solow To: Friends of Triumph To: Mark J Bradakis ReplyTo: Greg Solow Subject: [Fot] Email communication test Sent: Jan 23, 2013 2:37 AM This is a test Email to see if my posts will get though to fot. It was sent at 12:30 am Wednesday January 23.It is addressed to the fot and to Mark. I hope it gets through! Greg Solow The Engine Room Morgan & Sports Car Specialists Santa Cruz, Calif. 95060 831 429-1800 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 23 10:05:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98D8425A6 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 10:05:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm18-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm18-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.138]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 85F5F4054E for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 10:00:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.215.143] by nm18.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jan 2013 16:55:51 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.197] by tm14.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jan 2013 16:55:51 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jan 2013 16:55:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 54268 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jan 2013 16:55:51 -0000 s=s1024; t=1358960151; bh=NacE+deVofxs05kXGlKhHc0mjy3I8f55482AcI0aFtw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LzaXDw2WJWVMWnn8icboIFSb7XzC6zW8xWFce2b2T6ug8fx6uKqOcFEM/oxFHtZQ38KRe0SulvSSsAoI6h+8N7YE280zUp/aKsMBGs66/+oNF1knBRYweSUoinXx371M9SGXnBWuYPwv3Zxyhlb3cF1bIEJV4gSqNyiZauVEgA8= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=H6DDcyiASvGLviPMUSRWcNPVCSRyJeJ2alPgdFMpwcO8D6CF/DCM4JSiVeBU3/A1D8qOJHA6hRhbOeFl8vSlLkmtnN5GbKMcoSLHKqDXebXOu8MYNCiiznfwpwJ4FrFXadPuTBfl7CwL+xhAFndTqkzQ2/zGOyWYRsklqgHVNAc=; _oQ3G4onAn6RlM4smZddZrZLhy1mZZOuPprZF1AEAPcb7Znub7RrZUojJGgy BXTnAS8SGpyb0vUU75G8muvF_deNoBkKBiYa6ZBDp9w49PCdG0iYE8ztMWxK bIsKuxeW.RiVhCGfVed42DaOZ2NOIZZl1r_R2a1ZTK7OPJ5_hR7duPMtTVch FdKX4jiuWZnIHCMKF7pn3OKERJCjZubFP3ss4BZSrtd4beV.HoKxXzdkQZtG 4g9tUTQFZaNnToOfFBBNZwfNoZXc_QRDRBtD4DHlASqD5A5pXyeTYRZXzwpA a9ObbVZIMOXWYxH27bHaoOiXXHGJFl.hJ7rOlIqr_dtn0e12y0H5.r5sQgOp kAOkVzz7L3Vf1z7dATGAerqrp6Yl5knZCLl6y8Cmt1bIChjpgIlfxcgwL2FW tImuwO.N0s3KbDTeuTvZ8.sVdJBj8rgjjgtuB80UJvCamllaEiTtweaniPDG Kw5Hby.h4PDM.1qzwKaQyszKF3sORNz3cF77Tb8Ek4Q1R7WwTPgY6ikA- Received: from [75.105.247.167] by web162501.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 08:55:51 PST QSBnb29kIHJ1bGUgb2YgdGh1bWIgaXMgwqAuMDA1IGZvciBldmVyeSAxMDAwIHJwbS4KCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogRnJvbTogSm9lIEJvcnVjaCA8amFib3J1Y2hAbmV0emVyby5uZXQ.ClRvOiB0b29kYW1uZnVua3lAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQgCkNjOiBmb3RAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQgClNlbnQ6IFR1ZXNkYXksIEphbnVhcnkgMjIsIDIwMTMgNjozOCBQTQpTdWJqZWN0OiBSZTogW0ZvdF0gVFI0IGRlY2sgaGVpZ2h0CiAKV2l0aCBhIGJpbGxldCBjcmFuayBhbmQgUGF1dGVyIHIBMAEBAQE- References: <20130122.193835.2889.1@webmail05.dca.untd.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 08:55:51 -0800 (PST) From: John Wagner To: Joe Boruch , "toodamnfunky@comcast.net" Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 deck height Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A good rule of thumb is .005 for every 1000 rpm. ________________________________ From: Joe Boruch To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net Cc: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 deck height With a billet crank and Pauter rods I use a 0.010 inch deck height, plus allow 0.022 for the head gasket. I have run as little as 0.007 deck, but had impressions of the head on top of the pistons. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Jim Gray" To: "'FoT Triumph'" Subject: [Fot] TR4 deck height Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:27:14 -0700 Greetings FoT, I was curious as to what the group likes to run for deck height or piston to head clearance assuming forged rods and stock crank are used. I have heard everywhere from zero to .040 Thanks as always, jim g _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/j.wags63@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 23 12:39:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC98040E21 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 12:39:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail168c2.megamailservers.com (mail168c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B0B4054C for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 12:34:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) by mail168c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r0NJU1SP028645; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 14:30:06 -0500 From: "john hasty" To: "'Don Marshall'" , "'Friends of Triumph'" References: Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 14:30:01 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac35bTgBHo1O2VnHQiKW8o0WFYJfvgAMsLAg a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=Gc7aGB4Jku47Ds3xBLoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=IZ0Kp1xtFRXEzoCa:21 a=KyRXW35D3og-5wLD:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] Road Atlanta Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'll be there along with your case of Brad Penn John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don Marshall Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 8:25 AM To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Road Atlanta Who else is coming to the VDCA event at Road Atlanta next month? Don _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 23 14:42:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D6040E31 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 14:42:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail176c2.megamailservers.com (mail176c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A425E40557 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 14:42:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.248.250.34] (200.sub-174-252-145.myvzw.com [174.252.145.200]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail176c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r0NLbsMN014466 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 23 Jan 2013 16:37:56 -0500 References: <20130122.193835.2889.1@webmail05.dca.untd.com> From: John Hasty Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 16:37:51 -0500 To: TR4 Tony a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=p1NKio4UnTOaxCo8EpSHxg==:17 a=8RloEfZUAAAA:8 a=jva-MS_XWXvxSQA1hHgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=p1NKio4UnTOaxCo8EpSHxg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 deck height Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Not that it is on subject; but we ran 1mm in my 250cc two stroke GP Yamaha motors. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2013, at 7:52 AM, TR4 Tony wrote: > This message cannot be displayed because of the way it is formatted. Ask the sender to send it again using a different format or email program. text/plain _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 25 03:24:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEDCF4042C for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 03:24:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 432CC4044F for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 03:17:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.144] by nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jan 2013 10:12:45 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.242] by tm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jan 2013 10:12:45 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1051.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jan 2013 10:12:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 29251 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Jan 2013 10:12:45 -0000 s=s1024; t=1359108765; bh=MeX2owryisrAKMVfAX4XIPbPHvoRpQJAOjHTWeEtKYA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=l28Z4RTDRCZh8eqme4WS+aLKV6uv38Ps+W/ZxEqHbO/s+4bKzlKbZLUptS5QJVddM4UVlXKRwKDPj0EYAl5gIQMd6/0xWqKlXNfpOoJQb9p7KQzHEsTpJezPhMLDRfND3NcS5QBw0T06x6xUdaYqfiHiHfXXzGltYgqqkn1Qqi8= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5TPbxlXzFNSL/xJJsVZ3wXSwGPzxcQqmcYEKR9dck7S9CQWTnFLxbmOCYwM5icpr3uhoaRLOiUjwSVFTtMSmHujZGkbRPiXNM5Vq7ABaprUy0x/TmNUOsjGsbCC+voPlKLLbuPxMYmGeuAhREUjq70si9lA7bZobVA8EKAjvAMc=; hiUkwcI7EIgiiSrlg9Zyk3bGXiAS2EV6pd8wkIkgKfgGMTDIEbsSfN0MoXCw rlY_TePIQVp1OaZe9ociKBGvzUiE9l_NWBhSzvL8Y7VY3WbHcNUHS.2lZcIo Jd6mSQfRaoS2xoF1r_HTkwE924G5sSuSbkkd0M2czH_bmgtMRsSB9gkBcfjM mRPr.KCvKdPSbV5mC03wHQxiaP7Xxt4M6jWNKgeZ19iQTBvAvrIC.fM1bbfs O1YdgxhQK12mgMd9IzdSRJ9.A.PjtM..EbFxM3mcUCuFqxK2GhmzNpZZ1v_N Dz4LXWkfQAouTozc8dnQ1ZvudVJf6graEDy36dMf5mDuW7BD1rsd3Sww4_oJ 3J68RV2u647o6B6IWPSfv5zb9sQrLvQzjUfpp.w9yJK7KYf4yjx1t2EFfq.l Rr.w8V1G5NqnY9ER.J1.qhaiCmmdIVKPo0x1mg62_iYoQQZONeADMLgg9iYT h3fnriAA5bN0uGUlKHpq_IWWtuTVtn_lcy9mqw0enpweXTJIJTkAGOkl7yEI EzblCkczNyBTqNy21S5gg2vPV.QE_KoF0ijMO_Dg- Received: from [69.171.160.179] by web160705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 02:12:44 PST aHR0cDovL2hlYWx0aC10cmFpbmVycy5vcmcvd3AtY29udGVudC9wbHVnaW5zL2JkeXNtLmh0bWwKCgpKYXkgQ3JlZWwBMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 02:12:44 -0800 (PST) From: Jay Creel To: "powersdm@hotmail.com" , "joelcookphoto@yahoo.com" , "fot@autox.team.net" , "nancy.petronio@cox.net" , "kencerney@knowerror.com" , "dconnors@chaseenterprises.com" , "marsan24@aol.com" , "vzael424@aol.com" , "TRHBEST@comcast.net" Subject: [Fot] (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net http://health-trainers.org/wp-content/plugins/bdysm.html Jay Creel _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 15:36:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EBEE4044A for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:36:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-da0-f50.google.com (mail-da0-f50.google.com [209.85.210.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BBCB403E6 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:32:06 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-da0-f50.google.com with SMTP id h15so686218dan.23 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 14:27:35 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:x-originating-ip:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=djUtIsFXSDhCTpc3QAtiKP1w7pDyQ1aCSmsXNP2pSmQ=; b=NOi/9lAy96D0Qm9IwrLcek+gdYpQa/5cKlj8m7dwZrFFgJLzDyC9cwISwAvAAtXdlu 4/ySh81NLORmGtjYRIQtjtk7U5hiRyE1lPMLfS1Obga06P5bohISrQB873qIHlTjdsbS vuwvDgr2N7iMCS8BegMCkNMRTShIUzOl3tfc+/km472OEhXVCmcWXbmKpEZZ1mnDipGl Zuc8bfr3bti93VAvrEZLkx9dprmrI7UVGIsZjnsyoUzC5t1VqrHCGRH32Q+fuNUrG3IB Z7tAIOsNP49MegeMhaNcdNCkf06eGvyPsHUmuPQwcO6dfABKYMcIb1fCVJf9+r6aK5aG Ud7w== tp9mr25536632pbc.1.1359239255535; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 14:27:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.77.102 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 14:27:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:27:35 -0600 From: Jason Ostrowski To: triumph friends Subject: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The 24 hour race at Daytona this weekend got me thinking. It seems that Sebring is usually mentioned as the endurance testing grounds for Triumphs (at least here in the U.S)... lots of action there with a few different TR models. I am aware of some attempts by the factory teams to complete the 24 hours of LeMans. (early years) Anyway, anyone have any insight as to who and what car might hold the (Triumph) record for most distance covered in a competition event? Sebring, Daytona, LeMans, Lemons? I know some of our own FoT guys did well in the late 50's at Sebring...I remember hearing of a guy driving a TR3 for over 11 hours in that event (There are some great photos of this group on our own FoT website) This is just for fun ....Remember, It gets really cold here in Chicago and I need an interesting FoT topic. Whats the longest you have driven a Triumph in competition? Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 15:51:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE75F4044A for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:51:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08560403FB for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:42:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5ADA07C4 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:39:44 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:39:43 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/17.0 SeaMonkey/2.14.1 To: triumph friends References: Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I seem to recall reading about a 192x Triumph driven across Australia, covering a few thousand miles. Not sure if it was in a competition of any sort, but still an impressive feat given the time and place. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 15:51:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01D240443 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:51:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B94E3403FB for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:45:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.215.140] by nm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jan 2013 22:41:21 -0000 Received: from [98.139.173.172] by tm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jan 2013 22:41:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp101-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jan 2013 22:41:21 -0000 s=s1024; t=1359240081; bh=OoO+DBV7oPnSTZgWxcGkLBCTjoLBxI6ksEc5WarZS4c=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=ib0xkTZuRUKsuhYS8DNWqZfK949e+fvNooHy71wBQ3OM7IsS91g1VaRpQ+PvmR8yZHcmU0CSMKd9zABy4GDHFPcEA53O4hJF3JdggxpVjqVAJn9DFh1UKJ5AsxjSYgTr/O1knrJkPQO05O9xJTaMPE99/v2uM2xBENqR6nDVr+k= npiInbsBiluzDuTFjK2rT_v0zGgbYoBjo5WuoS0vWdrcFUdPRJujh5vVvPZK HtqOTbGCPGnhq3tSx0Z9mBcpWJNI2UUyDf.__slTOQhU.lEWVCqXBSksKGjb Cf0WIFdQMNFUJ1bM0vJKrmQNaU9.OzNRLWpZYtveSgrQdI2EF56pgX98Dcmf SXiOCqSJfau76eapjV12XdbN_3MfjhE83R2Rol2x6w3z1K2f1iIwnX2Xr2xf wJV7VqSXhF74zVNm82vQaJUSuDSOXxhTxFyCxMhQEpKgzCaoLzjJUDukwNfb 3.HyOlL_kl3R90JcSwvSLqmunVGyEsa6d3giYHjZ5ewDavtiuyfQ9tZ7qf_L UmwAtWOIxRk3st__kUQboPj6RlbigbrYJDHXsqKWu7eYaUfMVFYPwuiMDbk9 6EhNS49xb_2WToAxq8aTNaplwL1MAIZzDFT8aNVQ6h5jdMLrXJ53z5.4iN1x hrCqfd.9qirfpste9f9s- Received: from [10.74.189.139] (tr6driver@166.147.115.132 with xymcookie) by smtp101-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Jan 2013 14:41:20 -0800 PST References: From: Jamie Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 17:41:10 -0500 To: Jason Ostrowski Cc: triumph friends Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Our team (RiffRAF Racing) completed the 2011 National Chumpionship in 19th place after 25 hours, 25 minutes, and 25 seconds of racing. Personally, I drove for about 1/4 of that time. Jamie Palmer On Jan 26, 2013, at 5:27 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > The 24 hour race at Daytona this weekend got me thinking. > It seems that Sebring is usually mentioned as the endurance testing grounds > for Triumphs (at least here in the U.S)... lots of action there with a few > different TR models. > I am aware of some attempts by the factory teams to complete the 24 hours > of LeMans. (early years) > > Anyway, anyone have any insight as to who and what car might hold the > (Triumph) record for most distance covered in a competition event? > Sebring, Daytona, LeMans, Lemons? I know some of our own FoT guys did well > in the late 50's at Sebring...I remember hearing of a guy driving a TR3 for > over 11 hours in that event (There are some great photos of this group on > our own FoT website) > > This is just for fun ....Remember, It gets really cold here in Chicago and > I need an interesting FoT topic. > > Whats the longest you have driven a Triumph in competition? > > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr6driver@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 15:55:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9B240426 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:55:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f46.google.com (mail-pa0-f46.google.com [209.85.220.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D300B403E0 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:55:08 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id kp14so867515pab.33 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 14:50:37 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=f0PB9H6YSQaugWOMnU5vEn1I32nypNdtDgtO/ifYn6U=; b=mme+mydEfJvXZ6tIGbRv6iYFFFDYXSpW1mPKAV9LINM7rLvE45ja3pyfWA2imZb91R BVFZcHEyEpgrBkmUog5KUR1sqHLc46SvMeH1hAr6LVSd+107TADYXCQEo9dVdOZsXesE nmze72+55De4ADs5dHE6K/W+ed5TuXIOnizi60OA18vhQQ2OB3bp7F463JbUHVEh+RJa WMnEdrvpj6QMFQOpZeuj2Fl2qdhS+TPN/jzem0l/zueCi64faKB2CdsTYZionAmv0F9y X8e6DJvSdCwHg8NOyf/fEcBmHjWm/Tp5n4LAV1fP+G5GUVD4TP46ylXDJBmHLR+zReml KwIg== bo4mr24276885pab.62.1359240637184; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 14:50:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.77.102 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 14:50:37 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:50:37 -0600 From: Jason Ostrowski To: Jamie Cc: triumph friends Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sweet, we have our first entry for the "totally official record holder"... so you did a full 24 hours plus. that will be tough to beat on time. We'll need to have some indication of distance traveled based on # of laps/miles for proper classification. On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Jamie wrote: > Our team (RiffRAF Racing) completed the 2011 National Chumpionship in 19th > place after 25 hours, 25 minutes, and 25 seconds of racing. Personally, I > drove for about 1/4 of that time. > > Jamie Palmer > > > On Jan 26, 2013, at 5:27 PM, Jason Ostrowski > wrote: > > > The 24 hour race at Daytona this weekend got me thinking. > > It seems that Sebring is usually mentioned as the endurance testing > grounds > > for Triumphs (at least here in the U.S)... lots of action there with a > few > > different TR models. > > I am aware of some attempts by the factory teams to complete the 24 hours > > of LeMans. (early years) > > > > Anyway, anyone have any insight as to who and what car might hold the > > (Triumph) record for most distance covered in a competition event? > > Sebring, Daytona, LeMans, Lemons? I know some of our own FoT guys did > well > > in the late 50's at Sebring...I remember hearing of a guy driving a TR3 > for > > over 11 hours in that event (There are some great photos of this group on > > our own FoT website) > > > > This is just for fun ....Remember, It gets really cold here in Chicago > and > > I need an interesting FoT topic. > > > > Whats the longest you have driven a Triumph in competition? > > > > Jason Ostrowski > > Friendly Ghost Racing > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr6driver@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 16:06:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C5340553 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:06:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f52.google.com (mail-ee0-f52.google.com [74.125.83.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371DD403E0 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:00:19 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ee0-f52.google.com with SMTP id b15so736977eek.39 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 14:55:48 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=Ivyv+Bhyh0Bk6TiJPnilvyYseqbMlFLD6rT9IpYgRZ8=; b=N5MMc+NIYuo8xRZjsWMkckWdLURNdJLie19c9ds9RM10TYIGm3kkqFVbo515lTl0IZ TaAghMFqTVUB7Spq/JG5CMennY6sSx6ctPf6JXPRoSZOnTwG00RG7GDMGYF0/YlgPkUi mErtWkGDXm6xdvWV4GqXGZPyw3BUKqJ5+yGlSvCx0hZQMF+Zbt0pfwWG1N40MMEgLl6E HJNC/KJbyS3iepM8++krmONtlcZbCt75ZuJFGCXbTgwhCtT2iSvaaOGDOI0g4935pwKK pjZxtxwarac3uDeAwI9GDonk61DEbpkuCJ1RSR3GlBNiSnDPTEaOVGj/SWS6QoIAqDhq Hbjg== v44mr30212248eel.29.1359240947991; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 14:55:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home (ip-109-85-128-127.web.vodafone.de. [109.85.128.127]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f49sm8566302eep.12.2013.01.26.14.55.46 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 26 Jan 2013 14:55:47 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: "'triumph friends'" References: Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:55:44 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac38FOOAK2nHs21GTr+am6UvFUOWawAA0ZjA Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, My longest race was 3H and 2 minutes as single driver on my Triumph TR4. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Jason Ostrowski Gesendet: Samstag, 26. Januar 2013 23:28 An: triumph friends Betreff: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR The 24 hour race at Daytona this weekend got me thinking. It seems that Sebring is usually mentioned as the endurance testing grounds for Triumphs (at least here in the U.S)... lots of action there with a few different TR models. I am aware of some attempts by the factory teams to complete the 24 hours of LeMans. (early years) Anyway, anyone have any insight as to who and what car might hold the (Triumph) record for most distance covered in a competition event? Sebring, Daytona, LeMans, Lemons? I know some of our own FoT guys did well in the late 50's at Sebring...I remember hearing of a guy driving a TR3 for over 11 hours in that event (There are some great photos of this group on our own FoT website) This is just for fun ....Remember, It gets really cold here in Chicago and I need an interesting FoT topic. Whats the longest you have driven a Triumph in competition? Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 16:07:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E028D406B5 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:07:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from tr.ccfot.com (wsip-98-174-80-205.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07CF8403E0 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:01:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868BEA4C091; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 17:57:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from tr.ccfot.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tr.ccfot.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mwJY4MZJndTW; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 17:57:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (wsip-98-175-159-94.ri.ri.cox.net [98.175.159.94]) (Authenticated sender: yellow04@tr4racer.com) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id DAB65A4C087; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 17:57:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 17:57:05 -0500 From: "yellow04@tr4racer.com" To: Jason Ostrowski Cc: Amici Triumphi Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Great winter topic, Jason! The 04 TR4 was not a good long distance racer, the all out sprint race engine did not like the 1 hour enduros I ran. But I am not sure what got tired out first, the car or the driver! I never was too successful in getting my head into the endurance race mode, I tried to get into a rhythm of slow and smooth with interesting results. I usually turned my best lap time of the weekend. The current build of the 04 car with stock crank, rods and a set of Hepolites with a close ratio overdrive gearbox might make a better endurance car. Hopefully someone will buy it and find out! Jason Ostrowski wrote: >The 24 hour race at Daytona this weekend got me thinking. >It seems that Sebring is usually mentioned as the endurance testing grounds >for Triumphs (at least here in the U.S)... lots of action there with a few >different TR models. >I am aware of some attempts by the factory teams to complete the 24 hours >of LeMans. (early years) > >Anyway, anyone have any insight as to who and what car might hold the >(Triumph) record for most distance covered in a competition event? >Sebring, Daytona, LeMans, Lemons? I know some of our own FoT guys did well >in the late 50's at Sebring...I remember hearing of a guy driving a TR3 for >over 11 hours in that event (There are some great photos of this group on >our own FoT website) > >This is just for fun ....Remember, It gets really cold here in Chicago and >I need an interesting FoT topic. > >Whats the longest you have driven a Triumph in competition? > >Jason Ostrowski >Friendly Ghost Racing >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow04@tr4racer.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 16:08:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 289394052F for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:08:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f50.google.com (mail-ee0-f50.google.com [74.125.83.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293BD403F5 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:08:09 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ee0-f50.google.com with SMTP id e51so766548eek.37 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:03:38 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=4Fx6hor2dkeTPYY2gr4MDSK7CTJ2tzylzOY1q8yHTBA=; b=wI2qtdBGCGlp6G5BjNz7yfaGpbsyGatLdv6grJAblgLpXjQKI4cMsZkg8QPoX2+r0V PRwsrFpQPk826RgiajZYujUboGcLQMZXRPSHVBAElC0lVIrtBbS/n53bGC1haDF/U36E 7PEQyIXSg1kLSUPxEuwtuyOP2LwO9X56rJQk/3y7osTYVtku2K/jT4FndQwSGKumJwW5 tqlx6fOfLa3D8tmexdKlwYS/zxW3Y2DSXIn+9NSRyQm90TiwH2xKYg5odvpxCBtxJzxY 1hp426vUoXsQVGjcpFeSLC9hxNdjX+GpYJMEx/H/Vw7yZmQ+/OXPnn4l4ZzSQPEhanlw 0x0g== e42mr34549102eep.32.1359241418046; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:03:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home (ip-109-85-128-127.web.vodafone.de. 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[174.26.54.223]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ni8sm3253606pbc.70.2013.01.26.15.04.58 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:04:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:04:56 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: fot@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Does a time distance rally count? Don't forget that Steve Hedke did The Great Race 2003 in a TR3. TeriAnn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 16:24:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D37D4041E for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:24:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-da0-f43.google.com (mail-da0-f43.google.com [209.85.210.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA300403ED for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:24:30 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-da0-f43.google.com with SMTP id u36so690818dak.2 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:19:59 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=kd+yjC80xW3YnOPLlrpPuJFJ/4loCEd89plNcjNNKbE=; b=TCF1+OB8CY7/35lv5vFhlri/a7KQuDbHRprd6jZir1qCtd5IBjb1ZakkKlQ166XpHo t2DIwCgSLN30KVwQh71HBq0KsQD6GByFwkaiMxPNVFYMfV3N/B6GcPcyU34OtqmI35CL KvUdGVHKQ6UdRifbwAPaieYrb2Rll3Axo7IqvmuF1foytAmBcyipzjTSZOz3V085VCez vixAExHrR5mg1R1crbnnS6GQPY6BTDrFJdOzA5dxYIQopxeYEq3INI9qkhNiodVd6h/i GzQp3D6NO46BrZ72psefKI1alp6Y1TOnLu1urWiq0KT92VLiQy/XWy8QKi0iOC8cGutf t2MA== tp9mr25757711pbc.1.1359242398807; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:19:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.77.102 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:19:58 -0800 (PST) References: <51046118.9070607@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 17:19:58 -0600 From: Jason Ostrowski To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes TeriAnn, I would say that would count, but need distance traveled in how many # of hours. For all we know mad marx may have traveled the same distance in just over 3 hours (have you seen his in car videos?) Jason On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 5:04 PM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > Does a time distance rally count? Don't forget that Steve Hedke did The > Great Race 2003 in a TR3. > > TeriAnn > > ______________________________**_________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/fot/jason@** > multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 16:37:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF7F40553 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:37:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f181.google.com (mail-ea0-f181.google.com [209.85.215.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F0E403ED for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:27:19 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ea0-f181.google.com with SMTP id i13so644945eaa.26 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:22:47 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=brGJ0GNkpJbb0cYMc1rCpi1E5EcgkvC9YpOUMBcJzbU=; b=GOPDfpFglzNiHr2Qij9Zu59j4wLxmCep+0+3h/nDDe57ZCUR1Vv97yvWtlF9K1OGAf gPu1BvYpLfaWNXiZOr2389+gw5zP4muB2B/d16kNtImMV0i7JUwavD6h/seR3WlI72Ab Olcjecn+jmC18InV7tIfxeNeAkyB5XvugyCvIwq05aUvQN7W/hTj1g94mM8Sixx2PpSd HCeoShOlcQ6UIuBfylk81QVAN7ncH2O/hjHRJr/j5XW3WuCB3uwSzu2k+3ogcGHhVwjE WJlxmPwuhfTFF0VXE1VQVkAGNPKVYfXE7Rp0LewN7j9H7bIB2XL3eVe2oMUaDEv0AIwR +2Vg== Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:22:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home (ip-109-85-128-127.web.vodafone.de. [109.85.128.127]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 44sm8657832eek.5.2013.01.26.15.22.46 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:22:46 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <51046118.9070607@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 00:22:47 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac38G6vIP+5C1cV0TjO619xvGlSBZQAAEZ3A Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I had driven a distance of about 351 km = 219mls in 3H. -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Jason Ostrowski Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. Januar 2013 00:20 An: TeriAnn J. Wakeman Cc: fot@autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Yes TeriAnn, I would say that would count, but need distance traveled in how many # of hours. For all we know mad marx may have traveled the same distance in just over 3 hours (have you seen his in car videos?) Jason On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 5:04 PM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > Does a time distance rally count? Don't forget that Steve Hedke did > The Great Race 2003 in a TR3. > > TeriAnn > > ______________________________**_________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/fot/jason@** > multivintage.com vintage.com> _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 16:38:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA7740523 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:38:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3BD740439 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:36:31 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id up7so313800pbc.28 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:31:59 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=Tlq6EVMahb1eA1XT9YWp1pLnrgfKFQra/vA+xoC6BSQ=; b=F/UYtZgjHs2q54g186mrDLoTsAoImA2+a7CTvWYKdZqZVTvtRrnqsgCYWfloOEU0HP uu7763mCVGuQhWvKBq0ZPqYzygFc9vigriiCcmZKMf/wFzH2P2nSb06dGOPxcQNqmMR2 asL9CKr1cxlpWGyojyKMyy50a7WvPWdt/IesMC9fRs3LCcmy/LjX7Xm0yXBxWKNctjPR xHRaf8KbW4N1B4jnFcpFn6Wy3e0H0THlesmYIQrsiervlbygHKY49dVNmU8KVivE1v2b xxa2OCH1SNVHXzP9vp1mbwulQ5TnItQauH4vxdG0V/u3p/LkPqihm0Gqk0hia60qVpFe beZw== m7mr24513126pav.68.1359243119742; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:31:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.77.102 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:31:59 -0800 (PST) References: <000a01cdfc19$60f25a90$22d70fb0$@com> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 17:31:59 -0600 From: Jason Ostrowski To: MadMarx Cc: triumph friends Subject: Re: [Fot] TR's Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I could make so many comments. But for once will remain speachless. Jason. On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 5:03 PM, MadMarx wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PIlVmBDsRZM#! > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 16:41:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E2E34056B for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:41:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com (outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com [64.136.47.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6688F403F3 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:41:49 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1359243436; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=UMK52sS7Df1lg3M3zmR/Po4pzb+hdOJDZpz0ZGqnrI4KphdatvEh35rNl5JMxdO9x B2SkYsOcE3N9kTRPMqbWTGCUrAECYP/+g+n6s9cxlyYJyD8vxwA7cHPjYDj72gAkVL AtaudjCJNB03stMxCJzmM6tU6KAIY6Vp3rHgtTbY= Received: from outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com (webmail06.dca.untd.com [10.171.12.146]) by smtpout03.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABJSJ4ENARLEQMA for (sender ); Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:36:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from [76.23.185.62] by webmail06.dca.untd.com with HTTP: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:35:27 GMT From: "Joe Boruch" Full-Name: "Joe Boruch" Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:35:27 GMT To: jason@multivintage.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ted Schumacher competed in the Longest Day 24 hour races at Nelson Ledges and was on a wining team at least once. I believe this was in a TR8??? Ted can chime in with more details. I raced in that race 5 years ago, but it was in a Miata. Ted was there as a race marshall and was giving our team some tips. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Jason Ostrowski To: triumph friends Subject: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:27:35 -0600 The 24 hour race at Daytona this weekend got me thinking. It seems that Sebring is usually mentioned as the endurance testing grounds for Triumphs (at least here in the U.S)... lots of action there with a few different TR models. I am aware of some attempts by the factory teams to complete the 24 hours of LeMans. (early years) Anyway, anyone have any insight as to who and what car might hold the (Triumph) record for most distance covered in a competition event? Sebring, Daytona, LeMans, Lemons? I know some of our own FoT guys did well in the late 50's at Sebring...I remember hearing of a guy driving a TR3 for over 11 hours in that event (There are some great photos of this group on our own FoT website) This is just for fun ....Remember, It gets really cold here in Chicago and I need an interesting FoT topic. Whats the longest you have driven a Triumph in competition? Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 16:52:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A374041D for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:52:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f49.google.com (mail-pb0-f49.google.com [209.85.160.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3E494041D for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:50:02 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pb0-f49.google.com with SMTP id xa12so830555pbc.36 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:45:30 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=Xej1yEs0DmAg31sHrRcPND/Rjq+f3AKYWNWT3bqOCB0=; b=gAuNRlZR0njmW6oZusdWYoVwLPgZuGFuZaI3OYgYSqovu7eXK5vn2r9dBjW0E3pqnZ n5WEmzMcVPbDVEYP4iNbAUlLaWWvwT9WQfPsZmlYf/4e3d0E7i4GMqMQP688mEnywHRh eqM5Nk0FuXTMpqi8rQ0pJOBt0eWcDLohQayj6/2Q/AvznaYoG7Co/8sFlYDUWzZuRSEx LgGBT4jH4pygqE8u3l2lCaiV9kZckXsk+6qSdPA6by9NlcOUNgqV1v7RyAfoAAxdAyCV APB1hlaNri2bdhswOPfdih6viXLBQWJ6ZBHglPvkuFBD3FQcfhcp6uRn6M+cE7dIb882 mSiw== ms3mr25547369pbb.149.1359243929945; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:45:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.77.102 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:45:29 -0800 (PST) References: <20130126.183527.9746.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 17:45:29 -0600 From: Jason Ostrowski To: Joe Boruch Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Joe Boruch wrote: > Ted Schumacher competed in the Longest Day 24 hour races at Nelson Ledges > and was on a wining team at least once. I believe this was in a TR8??? > Ted can chime in... > Yes, This is a hot topic. I got a message from Ted already... FROM Daytona LIVE! He is indeed in the running for the top spot. Keep the stats and stories coming. There are multiple categories of interest so far. Jason. FGR. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 18:15:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A71FA40416 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 18:15:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm7-vm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm7-vm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.218.209]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3548E40439 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 18:06:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.137.12.58] by nm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 01:01:55 -0000 Received: from [98.137.0.71] by tm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 01:01:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp123-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 01:01:55 -0000 s=s1024; t=1359248515; bh=YSpx3jvQb0SCezotl/tCa7kCIi9eGRqOurDjqYWa0Ik=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=tSGdM7Fqo4d+Ca6qLHPRs2PBXjsG5ldBUwxo9flVCG5aQ3Y672PUWTEN9Ux9SSzHa+hTRjf6IZVnfEppFAnEEgqKefTOQCpzmhijxZwnno+QYf3qsbS849kLKOZ9suQdIMN0JIR2nfhmXgwdR5Cub3kn5zygHeIySEC39Lv9yLM= qpWXEH_8nSljIEksEdRfLUr6.w11S4XhT45W5XPjRi6lP9LbelXW.z37y.3_ n_n3.1.F4DWGgCDK5ZiQyRDrx6cp_MbNttQC2sD3TQrAjjCm_fd.wXEPYMwX u_yIJstoEOyLWIKo6XBEXQpTfApHE6FnpQDEuxS8s6FgNehwEDvkmx9wrhNc aeFoaIriXLov9twtoyxE6Cae17IhDnlariFmLsQ_fYUMXI8wc0x.fSYEwzyT QwfRrLAL2irf9yO87ROMn_k.6s_Q0Sc3j8m0plDhRq7.VBZzG8OtBO9aEcKC urWAwoO3pXPvsYLaRWRUUEn3A25GwvUTPEo8Ao7Nasb4IWZzW9E5f.3uAz6D Ts27PyGEzqlNTZlQM1KJCKeJegfnSrZCmfK6DsCRlFGBGCLF8hWcgVzlGnRu RWuTJjkvFCEUXQycYCweWIzsiIrwu5k5HNhvdFfjVDi5T1RHoySmz3s1D.kF UQYcO22OGz4iRE06_CtesY7Rz3reDtlx02bWo2A-- Received: from [10.74.189.139] (tr6driver@166.147.115.132 with xymcookie) by smtp123-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Jan 2013 01:01:55 +0000 UTC References: From: Jamie Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:01:48 -0500 To: Jason Ostrowski Cc: triumph friends Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'll look it up and post... :-) Jamie Palmer On Jan 26, 2013, at 5:50 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > Sweet, we have our first entry for the "totally official record holder"... > so you did a full 24 hours plus. that will be tough to beat on time. > We'll need to have some indication of distance traveled based on # of laps/miles for proper classification. > > > > On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Jamie wrote: >> Our team (RiffRAF Racing) completed the 2011 National Chumpionship in 19th place after 25 hours, 25 minutes, and 25 seconds of racing. Personally, I drove for about 1/4 of that time. >> >> Jamie Palmer >> >> >> On Jan 26, 2013, at 5:27 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: >> >> > The 24 hour race at Daytona this weekend got me thinking. >> > It seems that Sebring is usually mentioned as the endurance testing grounds >> > for Triumphs (at least here in the U.S)... lots of action there with a few >> > different TR models. >> > I am aware of some attempts by the factory teams to complete the 24 hours >> > of LeMans. (early years) >> > >> > Anyway, anyone have any insight as to who and what car might hold the >> > (Triumph) record for most distance covered in a competition event? >> > Sebring, Daytona, LeMans, Lemons? I know some of our own FoT guys did well >> > in the late 50's at Sebring...I remember hearing of a guy driving a TR3 for >> > over 11 hours in that event (There are some great photos of this group on >> > our own FoT website) >> > >> > This is just for fun ....Remember, It gets really cold here in Chicago and >> > I need an interesting FoT topic. >> > >> > Whats the longest you have driven a Triumph in competition? >> > >> > Jason Ostrowski >> > Friendly Ghost Racing >> > _______________________________________________ >> > fot@autox.team.net >> > >> > http://www.fot-racing.com >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr6driver@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 18:26:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041FB4055F for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 18:26:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7623540338 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 18:23:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.71]) by qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id spFA1k0041Y3wxoAEpKDnC; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 01:19:13 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id spKC1k00Q2vctGa8bpKDGr; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 01:19:13 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "MadMarx" , References: <51046118.9070607@gmail.com> <000b01cdfc1c$0def41c0$29cdc540$@com> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 17:19:11 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1359249553; bh=SYV3PKY9f+g4qZ3nLRUvOsEgqOPgxvYEA9ajo0+AtmM=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TsLlNQIXlF+LweTVg+TqnOtpScJ3s2if0kEK6H0GSBEvmp8B1HDMpohmJRxJmtRVL qMpA1PZ24tgvZNiZDNKR0JsbdVKV6ve6FiPKSgsTM7ln0TZW0H4DGjaQhVcR4pUgHI eLwJZxSa8f3XNMrTcYwP2ciCpH3QM9p+M7ztAuAe8NkxQZYYyUP50s0ch3bxG6rCJK /NA5qIGKkiERHslb5ka3MgCd/KlVrHTBXpEOnQBVYsOF76rBmBpW3zH8iS+VANryK+ j9ZgMCkaprQpr84HguduikeR5aeQP6VBEezBnPBflStZzS11MYucIassswkzxTzO3H dm5Z2qKLG+k9A== Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I traveled the entire USA in a Tr4 jam packed with stuff, and an Army footlocker on the luggage rack ..My wife and I lived in a tent the entire time..campground to campground..approx 5 months..Of course this was 1969! RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "MadMarx" To: Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR >I had driven a distance of about 351 km = 219mls in 3H. > > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im > Auftrag von Jason Ostrowski > Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. Januar 2013 00:20 > An: TeriAnn J. Wakeman > Cc: fot@autox.team.net > Betreff: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR > > Yes TeriAnn, > I would say that would count, but need distance traveled in how many # of > hours. > For all we know mad marx may have traveled the same distance in just over > 3 > hours (have you seen his in car videos?) Jason On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at > 5:04 > PM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > >> Does a time distance rally count? Don't forget that Steve Hedke did >> The Great Race 2003 in a TR3. >> >> TeriAnn >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: >> http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/fot/jason@** >> multivintage.com> vintage.com> > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 19:25:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0D140523 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 19:25:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28DD940419 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 19:22:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.202]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id EDCF01C000093; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:17:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mse005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mse005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.81]) by mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id A1FFAE000086; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:17:28 -0500 (EST) References: <51046118.9070607@gmail.com> <000b01cdfc1c$0def41c0$29cdc540$@com> <6EF43036C63C45049181EDE195E4DD6A@Bud> To: budscars@comcast.net, tr4racing@googlemail.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com (64.12.78.174) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:17:28 -0500 Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:17:28 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1359253048; bh=f3Uh66ZlYZDmHeCo1XvKB58A1jyYtBOBWg4J5zprpB8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=T5UtlT67vErAK7lLvjxsCnii/iUr6EWoUtsGaNH9ezNkF3sKgNvqsPKQzup04CjEW HKpVeFT+SmGY8l8poIYuDoFcsCVJxfHuBEZJoMQIfkwdKEJ6+/4lXh5YCmpVQFpacf uNQnG+YO2uZ8EwFeXh6XD8dkiEVIShFALSAEtaII= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33ca51048e3834b9 Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bud, the first things that come to mind here: "WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM", or the basis for a great book. I traveled the entire USA in a Tr4 jam packed with stuff, and an Army footlocker on the luggage rack ..My wife and I lived in a tent the entire time..campground to campground..approx 5 months..Of course this was 1969! RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "MadMarx" To: Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR >I had driven a distance of about 351 km = 219mls in 3H. > > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im > Auftrag von Jason Ostrowski > Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. Januar 2013 00:20 > An: TeriAnn J. Wakeman > Cc: fot@autox.team.net > Betreff: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR > > Yes TeriAnn, > I would say that would count, but need distance traveled in how many # of > hours. > For all we know mad marx may have traveled the same distance in just over > 3 > hours (have you seen his in car videos?) Jason On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at > 5:04 > PM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > >> Does a time distance rally count? Don't forget that Steve Hedke did >> The Great Race 2003 in a TR3. >> >> TeriAnn >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: >> http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/fot/jason@** >> multivintage.com> vintage.com> > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 19:55:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3201C40EAF for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 19:55:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84FF40416 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 19:47:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.35]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id sqAs1k0020lTkoCABqjLT6; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 02:43:20 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id sqjK1k0012vctGa8QqjKgb; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 02:43:19 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: , , "Joe Alexander" References: <51046118.9070607@gmail.com><000b01cdfc1c$0def41c0$29cdc540$@com> <6EF43036C63C45049181EDE195E4DD6A@Bud> <8CFCA4B96BEAD0B-1FD4-2041B@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 18:43:18 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1359254600; bh=itBpd6+Jq7WMTgqJglBsZA5MjsvYZOR0e0ySYe0396M=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KFzgGcxQAh6uDc4HuOBUyCqpxwFWvt/1hsh9How+6BvEtHhJywaPHxzpeql/m53+4 GrKsgaFDZKCl9QEy76lsh9jufW7hpSm0CO4aynhJX1fyUKR+l/jXa5XEbZFT1PdbVt qTmHyldbtZnQ884CylnO99Iub06hVYz7J/fQU0Kv4T7YtD3KX+EQYwEpqYueLFrDuu W6xEmQr2N1Z4bnxxNuRowf/Fp19U1doaDZayQt02hWeD3eJyowmvEofjKJLOtw7+0O R7R1SkuslQdVIH+Czub2I0uQEVgYtxq9chYRj+7TDgDi9X4217Yp7TqCW4z8c+u9C6 oCR8tCEym0dvQ== Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The entire trip cost 800.00....My wife only had a learner's permit so she learned to drive on the trip(she was 19 and I was 22). We would wash the car with creek water..I fished wherever we went...caught plenty enough(that's how God works)..The camp grounds were all free as I recall..and we were shocked when we had to pay 2.00 for a campground somewhere in Florida along the Gulf Coast..Things were so safe then that we actually slept on a lawn at a roadside rest in Chicago. We had no credit cards or electronic transfers then, so on the way back, when we ran out of money in Hot Sulpher Springs Colorado(it was a little dirt road side stop) I got a job digging a sewer line..I made 33.00 which got us back to Oakland, Ca. RB ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Alexander To: budscars@comcast.net ; tr4racing@googlemail.com ; fot@autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Bud, the first things that come to mind here: "WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM", or the basis for a great book. I traveled the entire USA in a Tr4 jam packed with stuff, and an Army footlocker on the luggage rack ..My wife and I lived in a tent the entire time..campground to campground..approx 5 months..Of course this was 1969! RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "MadMarx" To: Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR >I had driven a distance of about 351 km = 219mls in 3H. > > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im > Auftrag von Jason Ostrowski > Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. Januar 2013 00:20 > An: TeriAnn J. Wakeman > Cc: fot@autox.team.net > Betreff: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR > > Yes TeriAnn, > I would say that would count, but need distance traveled in how many # of > hours. > For all we know mad marx may have traveled the same distance in just over > 3 > hours (have you seen his in car videos?) Jason On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at > 5:04 > PM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > >> Does a time distance rally count? Don't forget that Steve Hedke did >> The Great Race 2003 in a TR3. >> >> TeriAnn >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: >> http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/fot/jason@** >> multivintage.com> vintage.com> > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 20:10:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1974440EBC for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:10:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2744E4051E for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:07:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9F9681C0000A9; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:03:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mse005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mse005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.81]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 5B95DE000085; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:03:26 -0500 (EST) References: <51046118.9070607@gmail.com><000b01cdfc1c$0def41c0$29cdc540$@com> <6EF43036C63C45049181EDE195E4DD6A@Bud> <8CFCA4B96BEAD0B-1FD4-2041B@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> <7718FC0932FB4F51BB6B4A6C516A0D58@Bud> To: budscars@comcast.net, tr4racing@googlemail.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com (64.12.78.174) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:03:26 -0500 Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:03:26 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1359255806; bh=Lab45RhLo7UjiCSMxI7QTNlGynf5E1kaq0M+021oPIM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=D1aoAoaEwQotfJmy6ihS4nQZtMnFdSPIx8pcB+KepQJwFAndBf+OJNgH0d0aevjzK rmvq2OhbJbFoBYfcs7/XarW1AY13YUoRyl6OVLNkyqQMlCOu867icxSyrabn++Lx29 YN1tykm1omNsS0X/uovOpPR5ZN5gr+Whou/Le+5o= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b510498fe0147 Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net YES! The basis for a Great American Novel! In '62 I slept along side my TD, not realizing I was between the highway and the Union Pacific Railroad tracks, east of Denver. Sleep did not come easily after that westbound train came through about 2:00am. Speaking of costs....I was 300 miles from Road America and in 1966 it cost me about $20 one weekend. $6.00 for gas, .50 a night in the campground across from the track, .50 for a program, the gate entry, a little food, and some beer. The entire trip cost 800.00....My wife only had a learner's permit so she learned to drive on the trip(she was 19 and I was 22). We would wash the car with creek water..I fished wherever we went...caught plenty enough(that's how God works)..The camp grounds were all free as I recall..and we were shocked when we had to pay 2.00 for a campground somewhere in Florida along the Gulf Coast..Things were so safe then that we actually slept on a lawn at a roadside rest in Chicago. We had no credit cards or electronic transfers then, so on the way back, when we ran out of money in Hot Sulpher Springs Colorado(it was a little dirt road side stop) I got a job digging a sewer line..I made 33.00 which got us back to Oakland, Ca. RB ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Alexander To: budscars@comcast.net ; tr4racing@googlemail.com ; fot@autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Bud, the first things that come to mind here: "WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM", or the basis for a great book. I traveled the entire USA in a Tr4 jam packed with stuff, and an Army footlocker on the luggage rack ..My wife and I lived in a tent the entire time..campground to campground..approx 5 months..Of course this was 1969! RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "MadMarx" To: Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR >I had driven a distance of about 351 km = 219mls in 3H. > > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im > Auftrag von Jason Ostrowski > Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. Januar 2013 00:20 > An: TeriAnn J. Wakeman > Cc: fot@autox.team.net > Betreff: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR > > Yes TeriAnn, > I would say that would count, but need distance traveled in how many # of > hours. > For all we know mad marx may have traveled the same distance in just over > 3 > hours (have you seen his in car videos?) Jason On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at > 5:04 > PM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > >> Does a time distance rally count? Don't forget that Steve Hedke did >> The Great Race 2003 in a TR3. >> >> TeriAnn >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: >> http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/fot/jason@** >> multivintage.com> vintage.com> > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 20:15:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07DB406B5 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:15:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s13.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s13.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.88]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F5C4051E for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:15:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT120-W13 ([65.55.90.72]) by snt0-omc2-s13.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 26 Jan 2013 19:11:10 -0800 From: Kas Kastner To: "n197tr4@cs.com" , , MadMarx , fot Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 03:11:10 +0000 References: <51046118.9070607@gmail.com>, <000b01cdfc1c$0def41c0$29cdc540$@com>, <6EF43036C63C45049181EDE195E4DD6A@Bud>, <8CFCA4B96BEAD0B-1FD4-2041B@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> FILETIME=[F4DF0920:01CDFC3B] Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In 1963 Peter Bolton and Mike Rothschild did 612 miles in the 12 hours of Sebring, and first in class. In 1966 Bill Pendleton and Steve Froines did 877 miles in 12 hours at Sebring and, first in class. All were done in my TR-4 cars. Dick Gilmartin and Mike Rothschild did 826 miles in the 12 hours of Sebring 1966 and 2nd in class, another of my cars, Ludwig Heimwrath and Craig Hill did 770 miles and third in class at the same year. Long time ago, but pretty tough going for the day it was. So the three cars racked up 2,473 miles of RACING and won the Team prize also. I guess those Triumph stock parts aren't so bad after all. Never be beaten by equipment > To: budscars@comcast.net; tr4racing@googlemail.com; fot@autox.team.net > From: n197tr4@cs.com > Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:17:28 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR > > Bud, the first things that come to mind here: "WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM", > or the basis for a great book. > > I traveled the entire USA in a Tr4 jam packed with stuff, and an Army > footlocker on the luggage rack ..My wife and I lived in a tent the entire > time..campground to campground..approx 5 months..Of course this was 1969! > RB > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MadMarx" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:22 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR > > > >I had driven a distance of about 351 km = 219mls in 3H. > > > > > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im > > Auftrag von Jason Ostrowski > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. Januar 2013 00:20 > > An: TeriAnn J. Wakeman > > Cc: fot@autox.team.net > > Betreff: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR > > > > Yes TeriAnn, > > I would say that would count, but need distance traveled in how many # of > > hours. > > For all we know mad marx may have traveled the same distance in just over > > 3 > > hours (have you seen his in car videos?) Jason On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at > > 5:04 > > PM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > > > >> Does a time distance rally count? Don't forget that Steve Hedke did > >> The Great Race 2003 in a TR3. > >> > >> TeriAnn > >> > >> ______________________________**_________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: > >> http://www.team.net/donate.**html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/fot/jason@** > >> multivintage.com >> vintage.com> > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 20:26:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBDAD40562 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:26:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.56]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4AE14051E for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:22:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id srFm1k0011zF43QA6rJNrH; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 03:18:22 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id srJM1k00j2yr1eL8krJMvP; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 03:18:22 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 03:18:20 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Joe Boruch s=q20121106; t=1359256702; bh=HUueHWVCFxmjYdmOBOiQsSsSdwSv8fugFHqGUabaflY=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=Is0mME/6lUnKoLzdpSByPTtm6lQp2AIt5EK3XfZO4bL18x+xRUVFw63SDD9o8DmJJ WqNos3ckD52tdrzSVDby26aW85MJcRScP3MguQ5q5sH0qhrS/b91Sm2sGUfibu583j rN8AA1r17S/3xeMflJqd9Rmr8KBXAceSwu0ACJgtUvJG9HFxFVkElBajev2EGbKCpN SLWWL/J/HcI/J17zHw2HDhH5pxeePLkzJa49V9Tr259Nr7N9ZhQgB9Ba6mPrYuesKx yy4WvVKxByDhsDd1pSJKdb8IjmotcvQE9BGI3ERdQnc5lI3oZ1AlKDDzj3rL6GIAyM SeOBu8TXfvqKQ== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ted's Longest Day race results are going to be tough to beat in terms of 24 hour TR stats. I remember those races and attended a few for the full 24 hours way back in the early 80s. I have some pix of Ted and the TR8 coming down the main straight at Nelson's for the green flag at the start of an SCCA race, it's probably 1983. I copied the photos to Ted not too long ago. Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Boruch" To: jason@multivintage.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:35:27 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Ted Schumacher competed in the Longest Day 24 hour races at Nelson Ledges and was on a wining team at least once. I believe this was in a TR8??? Ted can chime in with more details. I raced in that race 5 years ago, but it was in a Miata. Ted was there as a race marshall and was giving our team some tips. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Jason Ostrowski To: triumph friends Subject: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:27:35 -0600 The 24 hour race at Daytona this weekend got me thinking. It seems that Sebring is usually mentioned as the endurance testing grounds for Triumphs (at least here in the U.S)... lots of action there with a few different TR models. I am aware of some attempts by the factory teams to complete the 24 hours of LeMans. (early years) Anyway, anyone have any insight as to who and what car might hold the (Triumph) record for most distance covered in a competition event? Sebring, Daytona, LeMans, Lemons? I know some of our own FoT guys did well in the late 50's at Sebring...I remember hearing of a guy driving a TR3 for over 11 hours in that event (There are some great photos of this group on our own FoT website) This is just for fun ....Remember, It gets really cold here in Chicago and I need an interesting FoT topic. Whats the longest you have driven a Triumph in competition? Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 20:41:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 184134069C for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:41:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm29.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm29.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.92]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5381640525 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:35:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.226.179] by nm29.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 03:30:37 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.160] by tm14.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 03:30:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1061.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 03:30:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 59725 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Jan 2013 03:30:37 -0000 s=s1024; t=1359257437; bh=VJZqenPOulOMlqaeEP1wPEJj1UqrrATvIPagGVP7IYo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SbmMFjGnyvipP/LHuU073IWRKGBZZa0IiaeO3MHVnwmHl660Vd5wTUlVv3t4UNnfbWgxzT3ITfYPgxCI7sEYwFM/10rPo16ptxe+Pj+2uKBtdetMDsqpmIE53ropIW0Dxb8UQJu4jrTq1ddcR3DwQ2mn9BiNZapyP21sxvqO7h4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=i8zhhyN5v/ptCX+Wtu6Ji+1BqRXiG9jpktU/zTa+vq0Wq+ZiFeP86J+1Tei82PSy3N+vH7Gw1f1vNKBVss+etRppCAgbI+0tDlISGJpWUuTjCDIYmuXRSIHATU7fFji8nqiMn0KsTBykKXLEUE/rfS8oMH273HxpfklUjkmrQ7g=; kz8gnpZ8QHI6k9dkumb4DNB_oMEnV2hEWCCOiqKUB864d7HeQBt5rU7ATJO8 lKOKs_d7bk3n.L6sekw5_3b30t.iiA.khrCpO1HMxBAYgx.r0Wyb4cc5n8Rz mC17J8rNv6XNlGQmlWSQQkrcwD0Su7UU0fVtsqbJSom7vlHuLSirF8Bl9gTC Bo2gUFZSPDZMOgXgeJs9mcROjWRzGDFZWn.R0eLcmzMnqul9aZUZQTEMsOtI le0qupj6nr8Rl_8hHbBUt1divpDkUxntq1AyZjmJ1r9z16NSLGifTRRn4SNN mIhAZxPxyiNEfGwKaTRxdsawaVXUd3Ce_OBijpElCa18vdvhQQv0SB22wWkh z53bH_RBHj6S1jw5g9sZZNrrnhTxOf3Zf9eP2uhpMqof84.ZTNc8otcssnSF dg6LEbPMZJkPziP2.kqa5OXqMAx7Q3W48RFzr6or9jayHqwINDt5PPCKas3Y - Received: from [66.242.210.8] by web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 19:30:36 PST RnJpZW5kcywNCsKgIE15IGxvbmdlc3QgZHJpdmUgdG9vayBwbGFjZSBpbiBOb3ZlbWJlciAxOTU5LiBJIGhhZCB0YWtlbiBhIHZhY2F0aW9uIHRvIHZpc2l0IGEgUG9yc2NoZSBvd25lciBJIGhhZCBiZWZyaWVuZGVkIHdoZW4gaGlzIFNwZWVkc3RlciBibGV3IGEgdGltaW5nIGdlYXIgbmVhciBteSBEYWQncyBmYXJtLiBXZSBzdG9yZWQgaXQgdGhlcmUgdW50aWwgaGUgY291bGQgcmV0dXJuIHRvIHRvdyBpdCBiYWNrIHRvIHRoZSBBaXIgRm9yY2XCoGJhc2UgYXQgQWxhbWFnb2RvLCBOTSzCoHdoZXJlIGhlIHcBMAEBAQE- Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 19:30:36 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Suhre To: FOT Subject: [Fot] My longest drive in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Friends, My longest drive took place in November 1959. I had taken a vacation to visit a Porsche owner I had befriended when his Speedster blew a timing gear near my Dad's farm. We stored it there until he could return to tow it back to the Air Force base at Alamagodo, NM, where he was stationed as a musician. The day before I was planning to return home, I twisted off an axle in the diff at a stop sign. We located a new part and installed it on a sand lot near the offbase home he rented. Since I was already one day late returning to work, I drove my '56 TR 3 straight through back home, covering 1125 miles in 22 hours. No-doz wasn't having much effect on me by the time I arrived home. I had run my first Sports Car race in that car the previous September. Maybe why I broke an axle some time later. Ken Suhre _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 21:13:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B20ED40EB3 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:13:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D9A40419 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:13:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.74]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id sksL1k0021bwxycA3s9ESc; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 04:09:14 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.12] ([67.188.175.115]) by omta18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ss9D1k00M2Vle0b8es9DDV; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 04:09:14 +0000 From: Vintage Racer Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:09:14 -0800 To: FOT s=q20121106; t=1359259754; bh=YflNPRcydHnv1vSJH6I0KBsDWLy1gaKY0YTFtxQwUh4=; h=Received:Received:Subject:From:Content-Type:Message-Id:Date:To: Mime-Version; b=BqdwnhoODPr1vN4A95hyMjmJFGV4oelLjq7Lk+zNc6f4qehm6vZvCQ39UluRIN8En 3tLt/Eb104cWZiZZCNGJCF9cdbUDBYnfawl8tJAeH8tUhf7kC+eFheihXFyh6q7B1+ CeBIj5UAr48MBiYBuxUVeoLdm9A1TOseG62cjnNxC3hIS/r/LvbC+tVug0iEriOHGW 4jciHiz1th13i9k5/7m0crQj9msiYa+y6RNBDmMR8WMSO+uUgE0xYjJJzU1u1KzkJx y7W9VBvXsZ7rWrEW28k7K+Se9B/VoilvXAH0fPrKzVgku/FZB+UpOSRPZnBqWo9xBd KKmH1dpmzzMgw== Subject: [Fot] Longest Drive Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net During Spring break from college in 1966, a good friend and I decided to drive my 1959 TR3 from the San Francisco Bay Area to Guaymas, Mexico which is due south of Nogales. Guaymas was a very small fishing village on the Gulf of California and the only plans we made were to camp on a yet to be determined beach during our week stay. In order to pack camping essentials and our clothes we had to leave the side curtains behind due to lack of storage space. We left early one morning and arrived in Guaymas the evening of the second day. We alternated driving at each gas stop. On our third morning we were surprised to see two of our dorm mates driving towards the same beach where we were headed. We joined forces and had an enjoyable time bumming around the area. The drive home was made in two days but the TR required a quart of oil at every gas stop. Other than that, the car never missed a beat over the 2300 miles we covered. That summer, my father and I rebuilt the TR's engine..great little car but I sure appreciated the roll up windows on my friends new TR4 he acquired shortly after our return. Gary _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 21:27:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 475EC40562 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:27:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f173.google.com (mail-ia0-f173.google.com [209.85.210.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBAA3403E3 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:24:48 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ia0-f173.google.com with SMTP id l29so2676642iag.4 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:20:15 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=ASF4K/FNJC47yWgtVhaRTjJjY4N5/a4xSPWIU4GzvPs=; b=ISq2yPLsf/YE6FRd0QGMErGTTYyrJA8/cDB8LTQLB5Uk7ldpof4IGDxGnyXvqYQ9IF gSJ0J+WJVx/SUew233QopF59xi3FqhOEpuUpEGEowCOdeMa13O2bfPS2DsJsSGAHus+g 1CTwrYe35EMLPUAY8jQv85q03aP0Ub00G1XFcS1YZEh0uhp+wjNntqExmLBQk17UhYHA Vhjj+Bddoi3Wj/8ppddnYtsU8DV30W/AakcmKKN2v1YC3EsTLTQyy53C3WhWK92uPnI4 dl2zBfWKAX2tr1KTFn/TehaivNfOjQo5bTI1ZVnUjJs7YPHOWEakvBNf45B5zzmYU3gM 3ZKg== in2mr2191516igc.76.1359260415450; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:20:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.38.67 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:20:15 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:20:15 -0500 From: robert bownes To: Vintage Racer Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Longest Drive Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I think the original question was about race hours rather than road trips...But if you are going to talk road trips... Albany, NY to Dallas Tx for the 1989 VTR meet. Nonstop in the TR6. top down. Race in Dallas (win), pick up buddy at airport, drive to Minneapolis/St. Paul over 1.5 days (top down), spend 2 days in MSP, then non stop MSP->ALB some of it in the rain. Total somewhere in the neighborhood of 3400 miles in about 8 days. Was an epic road trip that can only be pulled off in college. ;) Plenty of other great road trips in that car... All with a race destination. My favourite is still autox on the streets of Waterloo, Iowa. Bob On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Vintage Racer wrote: > During Spring break from college in 1966, a good friend and I decided to > drive > my 1959 TR3 from the San Francisco Bay Area to Guaymas, Mexico which is due > south of Nogales. Guaymas was a very small fishing village on the Gulf of > California and the only plans we made were to camp on a yet to be > determined > beach during our week stay. In order to pack camping essentials and our > clothes we had to leave the side curtains behind due to lack of storage > space. > We left early one morning and arrived in Guaymas the evening of the second > day. We alternated driving at each gas stop. On our third morning we were > surprised to see two of our dorm mates driving towards the same beach > where we > were headed. We joined forces and had an enjoyable time bumming around the > area. The drive home was made in two days but the TR required a quart of > oil > at every gas stop. Other than that, the car never missed a beat over the > 2300 > miles we covered. That summer, my father and I rebuilt the TR's > engine..great > little car but I sure appreciated the roll up windows on my friends new > TR4 he > acquired shortly after our return. > > Gary > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 21:30:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C937D40EA8 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:30:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA91D403ED for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:30:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.73]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ssRE1k0061afHeLAFsRg4L; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 04:25:40 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ssRf1k0032vctGa8dsRfPN; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 04:25:40 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "Vintage Racer" , "FOT" References: Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:25:38 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1359260740; bh=mx2dEQ9++A6qdDo+yjqa1NJlrHmM6ckc2e/UjVIDuC0=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=njRmK+3uiB5HY9hXAQDZ0nv/aAsS3zXa+buhPKrFo9LShb5OjwaDrRklR+lVx87xB H9oAJlFxgCobp6Zy9Y2+dvWsLL6ZUKxdAc+VzJH73rue2ThFcBjton72Z9DDiTC+qN j8BiFvDNpE1TzBfATFC2m40u5vx2oj1I4Q5Ly8JgAG4fqGguULrGyd5HowrrVEHTXH 5qcOcsCbFTQQ7ax3BDW2qgZbQGszJeLHI7pq7FcoojVoJp7fjKezwxdWiKlKASbEtX 0U4Ssqh6B5iJ7HckaKzJUf5x9zstFlqA7FoqquzRlCP5Pjz2eJ1++8LSpnMJoKZPc/ t74LLXP4hTZuw== Subject: Re: [Fot] Longest Drive Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net What a Terrific bunch of Adventurous folks we were and still are..FOT ROCKS!! RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vintage Racer" To: "FOT" Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 8:09 PM Subject: [Fot] Longest Drive > During Spring break from college in 1966, a good friend and I decided to > drive > my 1959 TR3 from the San Francisco Bay Area to Guaymas, Mexico which is > due > south of Nogales. Guaymas was a very small fishing village on the Gulf of > California and the only plans we made were to camp on a yet to be > determined > beach during our week stay. In order to pack camping essentials and our > clothes we had to leave the side curtains behind due to lack of storage > space. > We left early one morning and arrived in Guaymas the evening of the second > day. We alternated driving at each gas stop. On our third morning we > were > surprised to see two of our dorm mates driving towards the same beach > where we > were headed. We joined forces and had an enjoyable time bumming around > the > area. The drive home was made in two days but the TR required a quart of > oil > at every gas stop. Other than that, the car never missed a beat over the > 2300 > miles we covered. That summer, my father and I rebuilt the TR's > engine..great > little car but I sure appreciated the roll up windows on my friends new > TR4 he > acquired shortly after our return. > > Gary > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 21:42:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 081B740EBF for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:42:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6574A403ED for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:33:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A37EE1C00008A; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:28:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mse005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mse005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.81]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 6F3E8E000085; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:28:47 -0500 (EST) References: To: bownes@seiri.com, vintage.racer@comcast.net Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com (64.12.78.174) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:28:46 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:28:47 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1359260927; bh=sWs2kFUqwxA5u63v6EXMV4rmId/k+rF7gBEINbqvIPo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=C+qPSjX4z1lojvIQ7DD0NTTlzcC7dHqbdHef6INbCcMGvxlZ5pMbadJYID/mEPM3t AVLev+z4ILC5QuC38XB/ihihWQzuXhtvU4Rb3nrlPy1z5AljAeplnHUmMdRFpzLQss PpC7KNDli2qkuRI/3OuOTqO55845jldsTe0IlVuk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b5104acff617c Cc: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Longest Drive Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net AH YES, BOB! The WATERLOO AUTOCROSS.....been there, done that. Somebody finally took out a street light and it ceased. -----Original Message----- From: robert bownes To: Vintage Racer Cc: FOT Sent: Sat, Jan 26, 2013 10:23 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Longest Drive I think the original question was about race hours rather than road trips...But if you are going to talk road trips... Albany, NY to Dallas Tx for the 1989 VTR meet. Nonstop in the TR6. top down. Race in Dallas (win), pick up buddy at airport, drive to Minneapolis/St. Paul over 1.5 days (top down), spend 2 days in MSP, then non stop MSP->ALB some of it in the rain. Total somewhere in the neighborhood of 3400 miles in about 8 days. Was an epic road trip that can only be pulled off in college. ;) Plenty of other great road trips in that car... All with a race destination. My favourite is still autox on the streets of Waterloo, Iowa. Bob On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Vintage Racer wrote: > During Spring break from college in 1966, a good friend and I decided to > drive > my 1959 TR3 from the San Francisco Bay Area to Guaymas, Mexico which is due > south of Nogales. Guaymas was a very small fishing village on the Gulf of > California and the only plans we made were to camp on a yet to be > determined > beach during our week stay. In order to pack camping essentials and our > clothes we had to leave the side curtains behind due to lack of storage > space. > We left early one morning and arrived in Guaymas the evening of the second > day. We alternated driving at each gas stop. On our third morning we were > surprised to see two of our dorm mates driving towards the same beach > where we > were headed. We joined forces and had an enjoyable time bumming around the > area. The drive home was made in two days but the TR required a quart of > oil > at every gas stop. Other than that, the car never missed a beat over the > 2300 > miles we covered. That summer, my father and I rebuilt the TR's > engine..great > little car but I sure appreciated the roll up windows on my friends new > TR4 he > acquired shortly after our return. > > Gary > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 21:43:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F85C40E2A for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:43:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s51.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s51.snt0.hotmail.com [65.54.61.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71EE40411 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:36:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT402-EAS64 ([65.55.90.71]) by snt0-omc2-s51.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:31:54 -0800 References: <1359257436.59681.YahooMailClassic@web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: Vince G Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:31:52 -0500 To: "fot@autox.team.net" FILETIME=[3C33D5C0:01CDFC47] Subject: Re: [Fot] My longest drive in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net My longest drive was at age 17 in my first car, a 68 GT6+ I had hobbled together in the side yard the summer before. 2800kms round trip to visit my brother in La Baie Quebec Bloody miracle. That car was such a rot bucket the guy handed me a shop manual and we sealed the deal for one dollar! A lot of pop rivets and fibreglass and the finishing touch... my mother suggested I paint it with her filter queen (I had no money :) so on a hot sunny day I sprayed my first car. All I will say is it was blue LOL. I sure learned a lot that year, trial by fire... Great fun _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 22:13:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E00840EC0 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:13:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8FB40411 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:08:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.139]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 38058380000A2 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 00:03:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dee001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dee001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.54.65]) by mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0C78CE00008A for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 00:03:38 -0500 (EST) References: <000a01cdfc19$60f25a90$22d70fb0$@com> To: fot@autox.team.net From: robertten1@aol.com Received: from 96.233.64.253 by webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com (205.188.255.20) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 00:03:37 -0500 Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 00:03:37 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1359263018; bh=gEvZoYYgbQRefhtZvBtmZ/yHlU0OcfGKNP8dhQ6g8l0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KXtrVWRuu0WCUMnmuPe9Ko98EOyfGO+jLPOIXMCPWPqPlgCnxDm1dDU6MK4rdMCUD ZoTaUmrjRbbJ1Sag6yqzgyw6E9Yg9aduwaWjSVp9GunU6aGWtaWM8zTqy91SmWe896 OJO2S5vcHPYwHYWjyt9BvZ+0DpXgGpcYfguKaW1w= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338b5104b52a349f Subject: Re: [Fot] TR's Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net So '60s Wonder where they all are now? Bob T -----Original Message----- From: MadMarx To: 'triumph friends' Sent: Sat, Jan 26, 2013 6:03 pm Subject: [Fot] TR's http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PIlVmBDsRZM#! ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 22:13:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1103640E43 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:13:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from ewout01.consolidated.net (ewout01.consolidated.net [206.123.242.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4C640411 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:08:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.101] ([72.251.169.90]) by ewout01.consolidated.net ({a3e7b2da-d35d-464a-859b-c83cc75994b3}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTPSA id 20130127050338055 (AUTH triumphs@consolidated.net); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 05:03:38 +0000 References: <51046118.9070607@gmail.com> <000b01cdfc1c$0def41c0$29cdc540$@com> <6EF43036C63C45049181EDE195E4DD6A@Bud> <8CFCA4B96BEAD0B-1FD4-2041B@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> <7718FC0932FB4F51BB6B4A6C516A0D58@Bud> From: Home Consolidated Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:03:28 -0600 To: RACER BUD Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Great story. Thanks Kg Sent from my iPad On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:43 PM, "RACER BUD" wrote: > The entire trip cost 800.00....My wife only had a learner's permit so she > learned to drive on the trip(she was 19 and I was 22). We would wash the car > with creek water..I fished wherever we went...caught plenty enough(that's how > God works)..The camp grounds were all free as I recall..and we were shocked > when we had to pay 2.00 for a campground somewhere in Florida along the Gulf > Coast..Things were so safe then that we actually slept on a lawn at a roadside > rest in Chicago. We had no credit cards or electronic transfers then, so on > the way back, when we ran out of money in Hot Sulpher Springs Colorado(it was > a little dirt road side stop) I got a job digging a sewer line..I made 33.00 > which got us back to Oakland, Ca. > RB > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joe Alexander > To: budscars@comcast.net ; tr4racing@googlemail.com ; fot@autox.team.net > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 6:17 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR > > > > > > > > > Bud, the first things that come to mind here: "WITNESS PROTECTION > PROGRAM", or the basis for a great book. > I traveled the entire USA in a Tr4 jam packed with stuff, and an Army > footlocker on the luggage rack ..My wife and I lived in a tent the entire > time..campground to campground..approx 5 months..Of course this was 1969! > RB > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MadMarx" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:22 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR > > >> I had driven a distance of about 351 km = 219mls in 3H. >> >> >> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im >> Auftrag von Jason Ostrowski >> Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. Januar 2013 00:20 >> An: TeriAnn J. Wakeman >> Cc: fot@autox.team.net >> Betreff: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR >> >> Yes TeriAnn, >> I would say that would count, but need distance traveled in how many # of >> hours. >> For all we know mad marx may have traveled the same distance in just over >> 3 >> hours (have you seen his in car videos?) Jason On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at >> 5:04 >> PM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: >> >>> Does a time distance rally count? Don't forget that Steve Hedke did >>> The Great Race 2003 in a TR3. >>> >>> TeriAnn >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: >>> http://www.team.net/donate.**html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/fot/jason@** >>> multivintage.com>> vintage.com> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphs@consolidated.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 22:15:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1278E40EDE for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:15:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E69C40419 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:15:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32EE4A0ABE for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:12:19 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:12:18 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15.1 To: FOT References: <0181A6EDA5B14F26BF1700AF83CF34C7@Bud> Subject: Re: [Fot] Longest Drive Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net RACER BUD wrote: > What a Terrific bunch of Adventurous folks we were and still are..FOT > ROCKS!! Indeed. My contribution will be about the summer of 1984. A '69 TR6 was my one and only means of transport. Managed to pack all I needed in it to drive from Salt Lake to Milpitas, California. I was staying there for the summer with a friend while I did an internship at the San Jose IBM labs. I had no qualms about the car, it did just fine. There, the daily commutes and back home again months later. My favorite part was when Deb flew out to see me and we drove it to Yosemite for some climbing. Every night I would put all the food in the trunk and back it under this leaning tree to keep the bears from popping it open. Maybe at this year's Kastner cup I'll tell the bear story. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 22:18:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43A540EBF for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:18:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from ewout01.consolidated.net (ewout01.consolidated.net [206.123.242.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6BA340419 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:18:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.101] ([72.251.169.90]) by ewout01.consolidated.net ({a3e7b2da-d35d-464a-859b-c83cc75994b3}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTPSA id 20130127051405831 (AUTH triumphs@consolidated.net); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 05:14:05 +0000 References: <8CFCA5DEEA4886A-1FD4-20BF7@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> From: Home Consolidated Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:13:55 -0600 To: Joe Alexander Cc: "bownes@seiri.com" , "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Longest Drive Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Longest TR3 trip was 4985 miles in 15 days in 2005, but them most memorable had to be Watkins Glen, the first time in 1970 without a top and the last time with youse guys a couple of years ago. ;-) Ken Gano Sent from my iPad On Jan 26, 2013, at 10:28 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > AH YES, BOB! The WATERLOO AUTOCROSS.....been there, done that. Somebody > finally took out a street light and it ceased. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: robert bownes > To: Vintage Racer > Cc: FOT > Sent: Sat, Jan 26, 2013 10:23 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Longest Drive > > > I think the original question was about race hours rather than road > trips...But if you are going to talk road trips... > > Albany, NY to Dallas Tx for the 1989 VTR meet. Nonstop in the TR6. top > down. Race in Dallas (win), pick up buddy at airport, drive to > Minneapolis/St. Paul over 1.5 days (top down), spend 2 days in MSP, then > non stop MSP->ALB some of it in the rain. Total somewhere in the > neighborhood of 3400 miles in about 8 days. Was an epic road trip that can > only be pulled off in college. ;) > > > Plenty of other great road trips in that car... All with a race > destination. My favourite is still autox on the streets of Waterloo, Iowa. > > Bob > > > On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Vintage Racer > wrote: > >> During Spring break from college in 1966, a good friend and I decided to >> drive >> my 1959 TR3 from the San Francisco Bay Area to Guaymas, Mexico which is due >> south of Nogales. Guaymas was a very small fishing village on the Gulf of >> California and the only plans we made were to camp on a yet to be >> determined >> beach during our week stay. In order to pack camping essentials and our >> clothes we had to leave the side curtains behind due to lack of storage >> space. >> We left early one morning and arrived in Guaymas the evening of the second >> day. We alternated driving at each gas stop. On our third morning we were >> surprised to see two of our dorm mates driving towards the same beach >> where we >> were headed. We joined forces and had an enjoyable time bumming around the >> area. The drive home was made in two days but the TR required a quart of >> oil >> at every gas stop. Other than that, the car never missed a beat over the >> 2300 >> miles we covered. That summer, my father and I rebuilt the TR's >> engine..great >> little car but I sure appreciated the roll up windows on my friends new >> TR4 he >> acquired shortly after our return. >> >> Gary >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphs@consolidated.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 22:28:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEDE540EB7 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:28:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s45.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s45.snt0.hotmail.com [65.54.61.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB1B40419 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:24:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT120-W12 ([65.55.90.72]) by snt0-omc2-s45.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:20:19 -0800 From: Kas Kastner To: fot Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 05:20:19 +0000 References: <51046118.9070607@gmail.com>, <000b01cdfc1c$0def41c0$29cdc540$@com>, <6EF43036C63C45049181EDE195E4DD6A@Bud>, <8CFCA4B96BEAD0B-1FD4-2041B@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com>, FILETIME=[FFBE10E0:01CDFC4D] Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Never be beaten by equipment In 1963 Peter Bolton and Mike Rothschild did 612 miles in the 12 hours of Sebring, and first in class. In 1966 Bill Pendleton and Steve Froines did 877 miles in 12 hours at Sebring and, first in class. All were done in my TR-4 cars. Dick Gilmartin and Mike Rothschild did 826 miles in the 12 hours of Sebring 1966 and 2nd in class, another of my cars, Ludwig Heimwrath and Craig Hill did 770 miles and third in class at the same year. Long time ago, but pretty tough going for the day it was. So the three cars racked up 2,473 miles of RACING and won the Team prize also. I guess those Triumph stock parts aren't so bad after all. Never be beaten by equipment > To: budscars@comcast.net; tr4racing@googlemail.com; fot@autox.team.net > From: n197tr4@cs.com > Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:17:28 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR > > Bud, the first things that come to mind here: "WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM", > or the basis for a great book. > > I traveled the entire USA in a Tr4 jam packed with stuff, and an Army > footlocker on the luggage rack ..My wife and I lived in a tent the entire > time..campground to campground..approx 5 months..Of course this was 1969! > RB > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MadMarx" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:22 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR > > > >I had driven a distance of about 351 km = 219mls in 3H. > > > > > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im > > Auftrag von Jason Ostrowski > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. Januar 2013 00:20 > > An: TeriAnn J. Wakeman > > Cc: fot@autox.team.net > > Betreff: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR > > > > Yes TeriAnn, > > I would say that would count, but need distance traveled in how many # of > > hours. > > For all we know mad marx may have traveled the same distance in just over > > 3 > > hours (have you seen his in car videos?) Jason On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at > > 5:04 > > PM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > > > >> Does a time distance rally count? Don't forget that Steve Hedke did > >> The Great Race 2003 in a TR3. > >> > >> TeriAnn > >> > >> ______________________________**_________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: > >> http://www.team.net/donate.**html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/fot/jason@** > >> multivintage.com >> vintage.com> > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 26 22:59:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95DAC40EAF for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:59:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51BC94040E for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:51:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id stJ41k00216AWCUACtmezy; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 05:46:38 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([24.22.75.60]) by omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id stmd1k0011J37AG8StmdLs; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 05:46:37 +0000 Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:46:37 -0800 From: Jim Norlin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: FOT , Patty s=q20121106; t=1359265598; bh=4ZePhTNCzDc8Hnq8piMeOhxv9bBZ0S4xMKQJKl9levw=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=aiXy13Sv8GZNjPyp8MbplzioU5PHIKyXQIgu6c3rb91tK44Bp69qkejZipN/8lB8i cMMi19462xy6fFNDF9ruqN2oBGx9IRWgLsekStW964CdCsgbEBp34t+/oi3sOU9XIG 3M+xyuyihMYLSLgiA+4EOIqWrdY7GZKCmB2J+6ex/2HwcTs9wuPSiGF4j751o1MUpZ GY937OcEj/c5k04YV+/H8JY6e34fYlkWEt6Tk1EodWVF9CivrB11bcYQnXtvvF4MEf BnJ7HHoML/5AHXke+LK9rwKDsI843h9e14FPvtNaRy7FEpijZuwh6OH9lae+dvuMma 4dqeAmp0aJyGg== Subject: [Fot] Longest Drive Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I talked my wife to be (and still wife, Patty) into buying a Spitfire in 1972. We drove it from Portland to Lodi, CA to attend a friends wedding. What I remember most about the trip was filling the Spit with Coors beer which was not available in Oregon in those days (Smokey and the bandit part 0.01) . I think we got three or four cases into various parts of the car - a six pack at a time. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 04:08:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11204225A for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 04:08:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.o2.co.uk (vader.london.02.net [82.132.130.150]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00234051A for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 04:08:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.225.62.88] (82.132.230.215) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.5.140.03) id 50D6EDD209C32C0A; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:03:55 +0000 References: <51046118.9070607@gmail.com> <000b01cdfc1c$0def41c0$29cdc540$@com> <6EF43036C63C45049181EDE195E4DD6A@Bud> <8CFCA4B96BEAD0B-1FD4-2041B@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> From: TR4 Tony Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:03:49 +0000 To: Kas Kastner Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I regularly used to drive my TR4a from London up to the Isle of Skye where my mum still lives, about 850 miles, 4 fuel stops and my best was just under 10 hours (including stops !) .... On the pic roads and timed to be late at night and through till breakfast to miss the traffic. Not quite racing but on the public roads and as quick as the lovely little soul would go. Top speed on the Tom Tom was on the a9 over the top of Drummacloch in the highlands about 4am as i recall where the reading was 125mph, windows up, hardtop on and flat to the floor. Su's and wire wheels as I remember too. Happy days ! Sent from my iPhone On 27 Jan 2013, at 05:20, Kas Kastner wrote: > Never be beaten by equipment > > > > > > In 1963 Peter Bolton and Mike Rothschild did 612 miles in the 12 hours of > Sebring, and first in class. > > In 1966 Bill Pendleton and Steve Froines did 877 miles in 12 hours at Sebring > and, first in class. All were done in my TR-4 cars. Dick Gilmartin and Mike > Rothschild did 826 miles in the 12 hours of Sebring 1966 and 2nd in class, > another of my cars, Ludwig Heimwrath and Craig Hill did 770 miles and third > in class at the same year. > > Long time ago, but pretty tough going for the day it was. So the three cars > racked up 2,473 miles of RACING and won the Team prize also. > > I guess those Triumph stock parts aren't so bad after all. > > Never be beaten by equipment > >> To: budscars@comcast.net; tr4racing@googlemail.com; fot@autox.team.net >> From: n197tr4@cs.com >> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:17:28 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR >> >> Bud, the first things that come to mind here: "WITNESS PROTECTION > PROGRAM", >> or the basis for a great book. >> >> I traveled the entire USA in a Tr4 jam packed with stuff, and an Army >> footlocker on the luggage rack ..My wife and I lived in a tent the entire >> time..campground to campground..approx 5 months..Of course this was 1969! >> RB >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "MadMarx" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:22 PM >> Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR >> >> >>> I had driven a distance of about 351 km = 219mls in 3H. >>> >>> >>> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- >>> Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im >>> Auftrag von Jason Ostrowski >>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. Januar 2013 00:20 >>> An: TeriAnn J. Wakeman >>> Cc: fot@autox.team.net >>> Betreff: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR >>> >>> Yes TeriAnn, >>> I would say that would count, but need distance traveled in how many # of >>> hours. >>> For all we know mad marx may have traveled the same distance in just over >>> 3 >>> hours (have you seen his in car videos?) Jason On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at >>> 5:04 >>> PM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: >>> >>>> Does a time distance rally count? Don't forget that Steve Hedke did >>>> The Great Race 2003 in a TR3. >>>> >>>> TeriAnn >>>> >>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: >>>> http://www.team.net/donate.**html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/fot/jason@** >>>> multivintage.com>>> vintage.com> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas@cox.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 05:37:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028D342257 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 05:37:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc4-s1.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s1.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD19403A6 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 05:29:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT401-EAS396 ([65.55.90.201]) by snt0-omc4-s1.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 04:25:08 -0800 References: <51046118.9070607@gmail.com> <000b01cdfc1c$0def41c0$29cdc540$@com> <6EF43036C63C45049181EDE195E4DD6A@Bud> <8CFCA4B96BEAD0B-1FD4-2041B@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> <7718FC0932FB4F51BB6B4A6C516A0D58@Bud> <8CFCA520285C178-1FD4-2078C@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> From: Vince G Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 07:25:03 -0500 To: Joe Alexander FILETIME=[5833A0B0:01CDFC89] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I can't remember who started this thread but KUDOs. Really nice reading all these great stories! Vince Sent from my iPhone On 2013-01-26, at 10:06 PM, "Joe Alexander" wrote: > YES! The basis for a Great American Novel! > > In '62 I slept along side my TD, not realizing I was between the highway and > the Union Pacific Railroad tracks, east of Denver. Sleep did not come easily > after that westbound train came through about 2:00am. > > Speaking of costs....I was 300 miles from Road America and in 1966 it cost me > about $20 one weekend. $6.00 for gas, .50 a night in the campground across > from the track, .50 for a program, the gate entry, a little food, and some > beer. > > > > > > > > The entire trip cost 800.00....My wife only had a learner's permit so she > learned to drive on the trip(she was 19 and I was 22). We would wash the car > with creek water..I fished wherever we went...caught plenty enough(that's how > God works)..The camp grounds were all free as I recall..and we were shocked > when we had to pay 2.00 for a campground somewhere in Florida along the Gulf > Coast..Things were so safe then that we actually slept on a lawn at a roadside > rest in Chicago. We had no credit cards or electronic transfers then, so on > the way back, when we ran out of money in Hot Sulpher Springs Colorado(it was > a little dirt road side stop) I got a job digging a sewer line..I made 33.00 > which got us back to Oakland, Ca. > RB > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Joe Alexander > > To: budscars@comcast.net ; tr4racing@googlemail.com ; fot@autox.team.net > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 6:17 PM > > Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR > > > > > > > > > > > Bud, the first things that come to mind here: "WITNESS PROTECTION > PROGRAM", or the basis for a great book. > > I traveled the entire USA in a Tr4 jam packed with stuff, and an Army > footlocker on the luggage rack ..My wife and I lived in a tent the entire > time..campground to campground..approx 5 months..Of course this was 1969! > RB > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MadMarx" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:22 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR > > >> I had driven a distance of about 351 km = 219mls in 3H. >> >> >> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im >> Auftrag von Jason Ostrowski >> Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. Januar 2013 00:20 >> An: TeriAnn J. Wakeman >> Cc: fot@autox.team.net >> Betreff: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR >> >> Yes TeriAnn, >> I would say that would count, but need distance traveled in how many # of >> hours. >> For all we know mad marx may have traveled the same distance in just over >> 3 >> hours (have you seen his in car videos?) Jason On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at >> 5:04 >> PM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: >> >>> Does a time distance rally count? Don't forget that Steve Hedke did >>> The Great Race 2003 in a TR3. >>> >>> TeriAnn >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: >>> http://www.team.net/donate.**html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/fot/jason@** >>> multivintage.com>> vintage.com> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 07:25:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9114225A for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 07:25:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f44.google.com (mail-pa0-f44.google.com [209.85.220.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3138E40400 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 07:14:52 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id hz11so1043040pad.31 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 06:10:18 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qf+zqRNiJDCDhc9sALLugZgM2EQfaeyFZaOrYlBRCuE=; b=1EFLsfpQwJ/pvrYbGR0hxAKGFxD+g55rj97IuqWHLjDO9oNhEKtIXOhfBZTd3llk4b US9IT7hQf9bHjy0fjfdsLcbXha2oByUxsCBzfAk9vM7Rj83Hdjytb5i37u5WpK3kRN+1 diceVO3SCVdJhP68agvnvdq5ZCwjqPwwbZDaSvK0Uh9rV2YECnvKe7BqP2Nl35WTFOrj 9/xxeRRo15G9TEdORK3acWDodaehl3tENCkW03MBX8/wFMZFzcH8m9C5JBUq+6MYVLFl QXL9aHD784zh2XWLUUvfavdnPKsZ2y2oS7APxIkkgyWKi2JVmwgBq9k32SEhUsFDHv6v u1NA== qo4mr29681939pbc.140.1359295818405; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 06:10:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-54-223.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.54.223]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id wh8sm4417904pbc.75.2013.01.27.06.10.15 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 06:10:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 07:10:11 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <51046118.9070607@gmail.com> <000b01cdfc1c$0def41c0$29cdc540$@com> <6EF43036C63C45049181EDE195E4DD6A@Bud> <8CFCA4B96BEAD0B-1FD4-2041B@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> <7718FC0932FB4F51BB6B4A6C516A0D58@Bud> <8CFCA520285C178-1FD4-2078C@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net When you own a Land Rover Factory camper (1960 Dormobile) it is what you use on the long cross country trips and those epic drives. But my TR3 has been on 3 approx. 1000 mile each way trips with only one mishap, an alternator going out. But there was a time when the Land Rover's gearbox was out being replaced when the TR had to fill in. With the passenger seat out, the Triumph could hold a big 120 lb bale of alfalfa and a couple 75 lb sacks of grain. To feed the livestock it took 7 round trips a week to the feed store & back. So a 3 can fill in as a farm truck as long as you don't have to haul manure. I've done as much of route 66 as I can find Flagstaff on West. I keep thinking I should finish the trip and take 66 East to the end. Not as many long trip miles as many of you have put on them but I'm not done yet. TeriAnn 1960 Land Rover Dormobile 1961 Triumph TR3A Never felt need for a third car _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 08:12:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3E14226A for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:12:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BFC54040B for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:12:47 -0700 (MST) a=PmWnNPWQNMNtOArZ7ovx2w==:17 a=Fi33xz00IUwA:10 a=FGx7159uJ7gA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=Vzm_-L1Trp4A:10 a=8A7brI4kjU8C6ETGAX3PRdgeao0=:19 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=2AoWOGeykmTDZZvlXPQA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=klNoO7VbkHcjimp7UzQA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=YWxY4nAXwww7gI82:21 a=PmWnNPWQNMNtOArZ7ovx2w==:117 Received: from [184.89.74.96] ([184.89.74.96:49699] helo=Davis.local) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id EE/AA-25866-CD245015; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:08:12 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:05:59 -0500 From: Bob Davis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <51046118.9070607@gmail.com> <000b01cdfc1c$0def41c0$29cdc540$@com> <6EF43036C63C45049181EDE195E4DD6A@Bud> <8CFCA4B96BEAD0B-1FD4-2041B@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> <7718FC0932FB4F51BB6B4A6C516A0D58@Bud> <8CFCA520285C178-1FD4-2078C@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> <51053543.1040204@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bought my very first TR3 in Yuma Arizona in 1969. The used autoparts yard had two of them both white. One with a blue leather interior and one with a red leather interior. They were sitting out front so had not yet reached the stage of crushing. $950 and the blue interior was mine. So, fast forward a couple of months. While sitting in the dorm at Thanksgiving time a buddy suggested we jump in the car and drive to his hometown, Chicago. I thought, sure why not and not realizing or caring it was about 1500 miles one way. It was very cold driving through the mid west that time of year. The generator gave out with about 200 miles to go. Loosened the belt enough to continue driving the water pump and made it to Chicago. Finding a generator in Chicago was a challenge in those days but finally did find one. The return trip had another problem surface. About the time we reached New Mexico the clutch release hydraulics was giving up. Had to bleed the slave cylinder at every fuel stop. It was a sign of the times because every stop at a gas station the owner was more than glad to let us put the car on the rack to bleed the system. Try to find one of those today. But we made it back. Round trip was about 3K miles all on route 66 and in 2 1/2 days driving time. The next story for another time is my trip from Yuma to Dover Delaware and the oil pressure only reaching 10lbs at 65mph for most of the trip. Bob On 1/27/13 9:10 AM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > When you own a Land Rover Factory camper (1960 Dormobile) it is what > you use on the long cross country trips and those epic drives. But my > TR3 has been on 3 approx. 1000 mile each way trips with only one > mishap, an alternator going out. > > But there was a time when the Land Rover's gearbox was out being > replaced when the TR had to fill in. With the passenger seat out, the > Triumph could hold a big 120 lb bale of alfalfa and a couple 75 lb > sacks of grain. To feed the livestock it took 7 round trips a week to > the feed store & back. So a 3 can fill in as a farm truck as long as > you don't have to haul manure. > > I've done as much of route 66 as I can find Flagstaff on West. I keep > thinking I should finish the trip and take 66 East to the end. > > Not as many long trip miles as many of you have put on them but I'm > not done yet. > > TeriAnn > 1960 Land Rover Dormobile > 1961 Triumph TR3A > Never felt need for a third car > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rdavis4@cfl.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 08:29:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 432004225F for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:29:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D4F40355 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:29:23 -0700 (MST) a=F7LWL4Wnv9p2p4efJzjc/w==:17 a=9XOHBX1n8dsA:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=Vzm_-L1Trp4A:10 a=uMs-G7rdA3U-_vU9ZDwA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=F7LWL4Wnv9p2p4efJzjc/w==:117 Received: from [173.88.251.65] ([173.88.251.65:54894] helo=UserTHINK) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 1D/5C-01431-0C645015; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:24:48 +0000 From: "Jerry Van Vlack" To: "Vince G" , "Joe Alexander" Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:24:47 -0500 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I agree, these stories have been great reading on a cold weekend in Ohio. Several of the Western Pa Triumph Association members have taken a weeks trip each year going or returning from the yearly FOT events. This year will be an extended drive through MI and WI on our way to the ELVF 2013. A few of the trips have been close to 3000 miles during that week. Fun times with FOT friends. Even though we are not racers we enjoy the welcome that we get when we meet up with FOT at these events. Thanks for having us, we appreciate the fellowship. JVV _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 08:45:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F7340EB1 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:45:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm23-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm23-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.183]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25758403F9 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:45:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.55] by nm23.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 15:40:53 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.163] by tm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 15:40:53 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1064.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 15:40:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 87297 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Jan 2013 15:40:53 -0000 s=s1024; t=1359301253; bh=0oxYs1zaMCTYtLXOJKI7Zkb/VdHhGooY9w23apvHbfE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ttVk8FGkP1VdlUiSATQKlxIPcCWnpChrElTxxnYKu5ZiJ/NtfgvyNUqdG1QsNARnGHf0uK1mj05Nxg6pQZWdtE+RBh3W1lanhMogZSluq0a0t5dXrCn4wu1UlZVymhxPq+6+rq1/FMjmTR70QNo9KqnaBVDwCjUqho7FROi9TqY= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0v9IQYMAzouofjJZOfRYo3uHs80AFt1DJZ5UZU9zbKLQ1wrihieicN7JeNc1mCD4yEqBxw3w5ThUIN0uT4UGMHQ5SdO9/s9W91eZqxDRKrK5Njl+th3W2oU2dermQ/DtDuUZJvTGPHF55X8aqHSklO8+263nTf/Tpz0pcRNO2h8=; ibLpwCBtGjZzWSx4iJmSh7..R.pWxjw4ImvLmWy2VuK3LHqVG.zXqXU04K5x a1i6Gj9.svNtjveluqX1u8qXnQK92DHf.r2a1OXNdC6SzXjxyn8KJ6YaKMtA 64_qF0wckFyrF4LijRp_FsMA_PHVJUpLWBWaRq_FbdD4XEQnmjddM3ct.AIb 10wwIWecn9IPh75SLkaV1TLoqh7IG49AJ5om7fPl5rta1_uAAMdxmtSDFnCa egFWbiWTuf5TdMpYAWkBJCgC.37cKmV8tvJ6ataYEyX4xw4fc52cJ_HU6ejm AGRysTlirUu5maBd_BwFuP.ynfBwilR4k_k1D9.hXubfbKdDFnrtcHVHmkuu sRzRJgQHh20.ROUctNdhPzq8648frDNAgev2BvbyZhlAJxMgECZZkw42TcJ2 OB19wF6bLfbaub3jk_366x45bD5PXYnFW7lsF_5btjThc4ElxOv1cYrEhdHj lrUV9Pp.6GaIlDzRPlx7F9TtLsfWxTKTeU55DZOjZ3qh1ABrUoIKF3uNg.mi _i_f.H0Q.iQm9AZxWaReAnTzLksr7 Received: from [192.43.65.245] by web121606.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 07:40:53 PST T2ssIGxvb2tlZCB1cCB0aGUgcmVzdWx0cyBvbiBNeUxhcHMuwqAgV2UgY292ZXJlZCAxNTk3LjUgbWlsZXMgaW4gdGhhdCAyNS8yNS8yNS7CoCBDb25zaWRlcmluZyB0aGF0IGluY2x1ZGVkIDQxIG1pbnV0ZXMgb2ZmIHRyYWNrIGZvciBhIFJSwqBoYWxmc2hhZnQvdHJhaWxpbmcgYXJtL2JyYWtlIHJlcGxhY2VtZW50IGFuZCBhbiBzZXBhcmF0ZSBzdGVlcmluZyByYWNrIHJlcGxhY2VtZW50LCBhcyB3ZWxsIGFzIHNvbWUgcmVkdWNlZCBsYXAgc3BlZWRzIGZvciBkb3ducG91cnMgYW5kIHNvbWUgYnJva2VuIHcBMAEBAQE- References: <2252B9B1-1299-4B53-A8EE-EF169448B6BB@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 07:40:53 -0800 (PST) From: Jamie Palmer To: Jamie , Jason Ostrowski Cc: triumph friends Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ok, looked up the results on MyLaps. We covered 1597.5 miles in that 25/25/25. Considering that included 41 minutes off track for a RR halfshaft/trailing arm/brake replacement and an separate steering rack replacement, as well as some reduced lap speeds for downpours and some broken wheel studs (and one broken wheel), that wasn't too bad for a TR6 crap-can racer! Jamie Palmer >________________________________ >From: Jamie >To: Jason Ostrowski >Cc: triumph friends >Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 8:01 PM >Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR > >I'll look it up and post... :-) > >Jamie Palmer > > >On Jan 26, 2013, at 5:50 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > >> Sweet, we have our first entry for the "totally official record holder"... >> so you did a full 24 hours plus. that will be tough to beat on time. >> We'll need to have some indication of distance traveled based on # of >laps/miles for proper classification. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Jamie wrote: >>> Our team (RiffRAF Racing) completed the 2011 National Chumpionship in 19th >place after 25 hours, 25 minutes, and 25 seconds of racing. Personally, I >drove for about 1/4 of that time. >>> >>> Jamie Palmer >>> >>> >>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 5:27 PM, Jason Ostrowski >wrote: >>> >>> > The 24 hour race at Daytona this weekend got me thinking. >>> > It seems that Sebring is usually mentioned as the endurance testing >grounds >>> > for Triumphs (at least here in the U.S)... lots of action there with a >few >>> > different TR models. >>> > I am aware of some attempts by the factory teams to complete the 24 >hours >>> > of LeMans. (early years) >>> > >>> > Anyway, anyone have any insight as to who and what car might hold the >>> > (Triumph) record for most distance covered in a competition event? >>> > Sebring, Daytona, LeMans, Lemons? I know some of our own FoT guys did >well >>> > in the late 50's at Sebring...I remember hearing of a guy driving a TR3 >for >>> > over 11 hours in that event (There are some great photos of this group >on >>> > our own FoT website) >>> > >>> > This is just for fun ....Remember, It gets really cold here in Chicago >and >>> > I need an interesting FoT topic. >>> > >>> > Whats the longest you have driven a Triumph in competition? >>> > >>> > Jason Ostrowski >>> > Friendly Ghost Racing >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > fot@autox.team.net >>> > >>> > http://www.fot-racing.com >>> > >>> > Donate: >>> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr6driver@yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com/ > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr6driver@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 09:00:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6827940EDE for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:00:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD7D403FA for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:59:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 2AE4B1C00005D for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:55:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mse005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mse005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.81]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id BC68BE000087 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:55:19 -0500 (EST) References: <51046118.9070607@gmail.com><000b01cdfc1c$0def41c0$29cdc540$@com><6EF43036C63C45049181EDE195E4DD6A@Bud><8CFCA4B96BEAD0B-1FD4-2041B@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com><7718FC0932FB4F51BB6B4A6C516A0D58@Bud><8CFCA520285C178-1FD4-2078C@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> <8CFCABAAF5C3D3A-10FC-272CA@Webmail-m111.sysops.aol.com> To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by Webmail-m111.sysops.aol.com (64.12.232.219) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:55:19 -0500 Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:55:19 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1359302120; bh=08oZtBvWbdc1Gy/DkZCNaoHMDMUI6fos/jbecFMlkms=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fQ6Ur2B1308VgPFRFDvjJOxC73S0KnYj8sc065aDbiCInOQt5Rml9i/N9nxdZo9d5 M+ymW6GVxCw1WwjbroXIJlyxHMdcoH5nCK5YsWaXcx3b9vc7v6iUuNJPOY3EKJVPVm i1w5kSTPITRcLs3SlusQYIUEHz2uLtyKDiaZUTsE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d51054de7565a Subject: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR now a word about WPTA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA TRIUMPH ASSOCIATION: Some of the WPTA do have race history. They have also erected a hospitality tent and served as FOT hosts at the track. They are eschewing their traditional WATKINS GLEN TOUR to be with the FOT at the KCUP. Powerful Stuff. Furthermore, Marty Sukey has enlisted their help in the distribution of the event shirts. It takes a paddock full of FOT to support KASTNER CUP. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Van Vlack To: Vince G ; Joe Alexander Cc: fot Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2013 9:13 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR I agree, these stories have been great reading on a cold weekend in Ohio. Several of the Western Pa Triumph Association members have taken a weeks trip each year going or returning from the yearly FOT events. This year will be an extended drive through MI and WI on our way to the ELVF 2013. A few of the trips have been close to 3000 miles during that week. Fun times with FOT friends. Even though we are not racers we enjoy the welcome that we get when we meet up with FOT at these events. Thanks for having us, we appreciate the fellowship. JVV _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 09:11:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5AC40E26 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:11:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm8.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm8.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.135]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258F2403FA for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:06:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.99] by nm8.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 16:01:31 -0000 Received: from [67.195.14.108] by tm4.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 16:01:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp105.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 16:01:31 -0000 s=s1024; t=1359302491; bh=vX5A8p3sty23PVIWXH46xtE89IJM7z+AUum6pjnCRAM=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=tHVsRw1z9UpX2np9qwIdwXbxexiR/pvM3Q8eBmL9wNGY8VcOMdoCnEqL9JdviyuAggA+KJXjxFtzvPBbw+ZRz5Z/bqOOWNBTPo3YEs0rjGUfbnregFvvu0Xj7zJZpEIKUaVtELukCG6ZXveIbmYP0DVF6g7H894k6wNuEwN03OU= yVHu6eigKcfWJbN6ZJcrPnYKe2iZSsIT29Cz1CJJ3PuWWxPFtUq9aheZvxa1 u1CS6Of0aJNfBFpwbbi_UGxviaVITnk9NstP6X1m7XfpIguwKW9U4jE1W8VB ZTugfCk1jRUPU1zMo4x9oRi6.AfDIiXfBiGeLiIQFScsJeeGRxnd6_ULnYmP 0ObhaAy.GGxXMU1UWnam3I9bQ5YAL5t2um0wkqIaNrnxFXTaFis8kO4Z7d5s RBbEOQpyx1fRGYcNbxkmHi0J8hdPhc0ALqdbIyvAQzAbUPUw5MHSjf7RXS04 EbtfB.Gs0D1U9XoxUQk3VqgjWekQLw4wTGZDtMhEaosPaTOrZiE69eSS1UEj 4_qag6SvLWqpNx6crw0LyVw33lPrxiu9b0Stt4EBWtwfDc7fbXDmutQxqFMD pzhtW7D4A.iVUgPs7Ac9k9_bGUI6cVrpsnBLVsUg.BtKVeuU.neds6oZ8g7E N225nskZYHKEjVVM- Received: from richardiipc (tarch@98.66.164.155 with login) by smtp105.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Jan 2013 08:01:31 -0800 PST From: "Richard Taylor" To: , "'Jason Ostrowski'" References: Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:01:29 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac38GUEWehQhqeOoTjOmdsOj+R7r7wAizIBQ Content-Language: en-us Cc: 'Amici Triumphi' Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The other wrinkle in Triumph trips is driving a racecar to the track. In the last 13 years, ole #197 ran 29 races. Most of them were at the home track of Road Atlanta (60 miles from my shop). Two have been 600 mile trips (one way) to Mid Ohio, 2 to Daytona (450 miles), 2 to VIR (375 miles [one trip back home was on the hook - crankshaft failure])and 3 to Savannah (200 miles). It was entered in every enduro that was available. As a street car, it is cramped, stiff and uncomfortable. As a racecar it is heavy, softly suspended and underpowered (self imposed redline = 5.5K). For a nice old man like me, it is damn near perfect. Richard Taylor TR-4 #196 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of yellow04@tr4racer.com Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 5:57 PM To: Jason Ostrowski Cc: Amici Triumphi Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Great winter topic, Jason! The 04 TR4 was not a good long distance racer, the all out sprint race engine did not like the 1 hour enduros I ran. But I am not sure what got tired out first, the car or the driver! I never was too successful in getting my head into the endurance race mode, I tried to get into a rhythm of slow and smooth with interesting results. I usually turned my best lap time of the weekend. The current build of the 04 car with stock crank, rods and a set of Hepolites with a close ratio overdrive gearbox might make a better endurance car. Hopefully someone will buy it and find out! Jason Ostrowski wrote: >The 24 hour race at Daytona this weekend got me thinking. >It seems that Sebring is usually mentioned as the endurance testing >grounds for Triumphs (at least here in the U.S)... lots of action there >with a few different TR models. >I am aware of some attempts by the factory teams to complete the 24 >hours of LeMans. (early years) > >Anyway, anyone have any insight as to who and what car might hold the >(Triumph) record for most distance covered in a competition event? >Sebring, Daytona, LeMans, Lemons? I know some of our own FoT guys did >well in the late 50's at Sebring...I remember hearing of a guy driving >a TR3 for over 11 hours in that event (There are some great photos of >this group on our own FoT website) > >This is just for fun ....Remember, It gets really cold here in Chicago >and I need an interesting FoT topic. > >Whats the longest you have driven a Triumph in competition? > >Jason Ostrowski >Friendly Ghost Racing >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow04@tr4racer.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tarch@bellsouth.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 09:58:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83E440EC5 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:58:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm16.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm16.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.217]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95006403EC for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:56:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.195] by nm16.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 16:51:52 -0000 Received: from [68.142.198.200] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 16:51:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp101.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 16:51:52 -0000 R.V.L1fyUDDUL0NViW.GZ9bE6awOLRXzyZtpZGwpJ9P6DRCgQDGQ.4QpxcEa .EIuEUgfZjI7J22s4xbBiLNeSfxPiNmqLH30H6bLFbwwKwEkFrGI_3l1_RAM vORhn.Ep4M.CVdMINQSwz_osdREnlngAkSq2WtwnTZvK9a6xnuDADLxA3iHm wfC3EPp.VY1E_7Ci0AohiKCHzH3rdHreYPOe_D4vTyHylzTZFBI8qBLL_iKb IUpPj7gr9KZAzXBKtnc3AeV6gk6xc6Akf7VeZ3K76A1T28zhisa39Gzr6naJ eydSqWjiYtSjH8u5vWiKkwEtidb3t49dPEu7oHe9EqIMxMrWIQDkNktst37O reWkNRuHpDthYCgaMAXBEfk8yfPFcV8txJSzkXjwLWh2pukTaK9._aN5nZ30 z8X_1n1PSeWPWFwNAHxyw7w-- Received: from [192.168.1.77] (cartravel@99.98.58.190 with plain) by smtp101.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Jan 2013 08:51:52 -0800 PST Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:51:52 -0600 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <0181A6EDA5B14F26BF1700AF83CF34C7@Bud> Subject: Re: [Fot] Longest Drive Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If we're talking about long road trips, In 1968 I drove my new TR250 10,000 miles in about 10 weeks. Started at the factory in Coventry, then went to Wales, Ireland, Scotland, England, France, Belgium, Germany, Denmark, Sweden, back to Germany, France, Spain, France again, Switzerland, Italy, Yugoslavia, Austria, Germany again, Holland, Belgium and back to London. We would have covered more miles, but were stuck in Berlin for several weeks waiting for an engine replacement. With only 3,700 miles on it, the first one threw a rod in East Germany between Berlin and West Germany. I swear I was only going 80 mph. Good thing we were too young and stupid to be afraid of the East Germans. A couple of years later, my young bride and I drove it from Texas to Seattle in 3 days pulling a small trailer with all our worldly belongings. I especially remember the drive over Molas Pass in Colorado. The transmission went out 2 months later. Larry On 1/26/2013 10:25 PM, RACER BUD wrote: > What a Terrific bunch of Adventurous folks we were and still are..FOT > ROCKS!! > RB _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 10:15:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1781240529 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:15:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C72403EE for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:15:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from DonPC (modemcable101.239-20-96.mc.videotron.ca [96.20.239.101]) by VL-VM-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-22.01 64bit (built Apr 21 2011)) with ESMTPA id <0MHA00NRINQ30C00@VL-VM-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:10:51 -0500 (EST) From: Don TR <58tr3a@videotron.ca> To: 'Kas Kastner' , 'fot' References: <51046118.9070607@gmail.com> <000b01cdfc1c$0def41c0$29cdc540$@com> <6EF43036C63C45049181EDE195E4DD6A@Bud> <8CFCA4B96BEAD0B-1FD4-2041B@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:10:49 -0500 Thread-index: Ac38To3Ik9OSaoPwTgCK7YvrhB1EgQAYid6w Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Didn't Ken Richardson take 4 or 5 Cambridge students to Monza in 1960 where they set all kinds of speed and distance records in a TR3A ? I think Paul Richardson wrote about it in detail in a VTR issue. They averaged more than 100 MPH for the 23 plus hours when one of the drivers flicked out of overdrive at very high speed and blew the engine. Don Elliott, Montreal -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kas Kastner Sent: January-27-13 12:20 AM To: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Never be beaten by equipment In 1963 Peter Bolton and Mike Rothschild did 612 miles in the 12 hours of Sebring, and first in class. In 1966 Bill Pendleton and Steve Froines did 877 miles in 12 hours at Sebring and, first in class. All were done in my TR-4 cars. Dick Gilmartin and Mike Rothschild did 826 miles in the 12 hours of Sebring 1966 and 2nd in class, another of my cars, Ludwig Heimwrath and Craig Hill did 770 miles and third in class at the same year. Long time ago, but pretty tough going for the day it was. So the three cars racked up 2,473 miles of RACING and won the Team prize also. I guess those Triumph stock parts aren't so bad after all. Never be beaten by equipment > To: budscars@comcast.net; tr4racing@googlemail.com; fot@autox.team.net > From: n197tr4@cs.com > Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:17:28 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR > > Bud, the first things that come to mind here: "WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM", > or the basis for a great book. > > I traveled the entire USA in a Tr4 jam packed with stuff, and an Army > footlocker on the luggage rack ..My wife and I lived in a tent the entire > time..campground to campground..approx 5 months..Of course this was 1969! > RB > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MadMarx" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:22 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR > > > >I had driven a distance of about 351 km = 219mls in 3H. > > > > > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im > > Auftrag von Jason Ostrowski > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. Januar 2013 00:20 > > An: TeriAnn J. Wakeman > > Cc: fot@autox.team.net > > Betreff: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR > > > > Yes TeriAnn, > > I would say that would count, but need distance traveled in how many # of > > hours. > > For all we know mad marx may have traveled the same distance in just over > > 3 > > hours (have you seen his in car videos?) Jason On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at > > 5:04 > > PM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > > > >> Does a time distance rally count? Don't forget that Steve Hedke did > >> The Great Race 2003 in a TR3. > >> > >> TeriAnn > >> > >> ______________________________**_________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: > >> http://www.team.net/donate.**html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/fot/jason@** > >> multivintage.com >> vintage.com> > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/58tr3a@videotron.ca _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 10:17:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691BC4226C for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:17:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3556403EE for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:17:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.8]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 02F4E1C0000A9; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:12:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mse005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mse005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.81]) by mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id CE01AE00008E; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:12:49 -0500 (EST) From: N197TR4@cs.com Full-name: N197TR4 Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:12:49 -0500 (EST) To: cartravel@pobox.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1359306769; bh=16+j6k3g330sp8QQDI4q7YmdxFzj72QuOqFXgnDkgqw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MZUae/eSvj1+z46jaV5YAVcE3uUzvz5IjDUKhzIzXkl//birKAoYDK615XZEeqicM LFNHW9npElg8a4vd5O2LyMnt5dRMZ9EcwF1x/qA/WJTGEMEP/SNxXf2ODUtr7DeF7T DZ0brM9OWyuGw1LNOqVAVPN1ZbQ9IK0v7vl9yZ0I= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29085105601165dd Subject: Re: [Fot] Longest Drive now GATHERING ON THE GREEN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Larry, did you tell me you were coming to KCUP 2013 with your TR250? We need an example of a TR250 at the GATHERING ON THE GREEN! The invitation to the GOT is for one example of each Triumph Model. For each car selected by the VSCDA GOT committee, there is a nice little gift that goes with it. This a very special event late SATURDAY AFTERNOON at the host hotel. The OSTHOFF......(I wonder how folks are doing with their registrations at the Osthoff) > If we're talking about long road trips, In 1968 I drove my new TR250 > 10,000 miles in about 10 weeks. Started at the factory in Coventry, > then went to Wales, Ireland, Scotland, England, France, Belgium, > Germany, Denmark, Sweden, back to Germany, France, Spain, France again, > Switzerland, Italy, Yugoslavia, Austria, Germany again, Holland, Belgium > and back to London. We would have covered more miles, but were stuck in > Berlin for several weeks waiting for an engine replacement. With only > 3,700 miles on it, the first one threw a rod in East Germany between > Berlin and West Germany. I swear I was only going 80 mph. Good thing we > were too young and stupid to be afraid of the East Germans. > > A couple of years later, my young bride and I drove it from Texas to > Seattle in 3 days pulling a small trailer with all our worldly > belongings. I especially remember the drive over Molas Pass in > Colorado. The transmission went out 2 months later. > Larry > > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 10:44:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F358D4226A for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:44:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta41.charter.net (mta41.charter.net [216.33.127.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 593AF403E0 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:42:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130127173817.TXKR10143.mta41.charter.net@imp11>; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:38:17 -0500 Received: from wt03 ([209.225.8.43]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id t5eH1k00G0vicD5055eHuQ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:38:17 -0500 a=teBb01H72zvILcsAcREHGQ==:17 a=ygo_Vk3MqqoA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=Vzm_-L1Trp4A:10 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=b4TgfONAAAAA:8 a=PitwSSReAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=G0ay9i0suNBkDubt38sA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=BcuAoea9tScA:10 a=EYE8wTkq5dQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=K3bDgsBoNtMA:10 a=uqO4iTgHnw0A:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=Ftw0Jq1B9_kTQRM0:21 a=l6eJfQUoRmgIIvDM:21 a=mOwFNYMVzYvmT9xQERIbvA==:117 Received: from [71.10.64.22] by enhanced.charter.net with HTTP; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:38:17 -0500 Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:38:17 -0500 (EST) From: jkhagen@charter.net To: Kas Kastner User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net "I guess those Triumph stock parts are not so bad after all" Mr. Kastner Just thought I'd repeat it. John Hagen On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Kas Kastner wrote: > In 1963 Peter Bolton and Mike Rothschild did 612 miles in the 12 hours > of > Sebring, and first in class. In 1966 Bill Pendleton and Steve Froines > did 877 > miles in 12 hours at Sebring and, first in class. All were done in my > TR-4 > cars. Dick Gilmartin and Mike Rothschild did 826 miles in the 12 hours > of > Sebring 1966 and 2nd in class, another of my cars, Ludwig Heimwrath > and Craig > Hill did 770 miles and third in class at the same year. Long time > ago, but > pretty tough going for the day it was. So the three cars racked up > 2,473 miles > of RACING and won the Team prize also. I guess those Triumph stock > parts > aren't so bad after all. > > Never be beaten by equipment >> To: budscars@comcast.net; tr4racing@googlemail.com; >> fot@autox.team.net >> From: n197tr4@cs.com >> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:17:28 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR >> >> Bud, the first things that come to mind here: "WITNESS PROTECTION > PROGRAM", >> or the basis for a great book. >> >> I traveled the entire USA in a Tr4 jam packed with stuff, and an Army >> footlocker on the luggage rack ..My wife and I lived in a tent the >> entire >> time..campground to campground..approx 5 months..Of course this was >> 1969! >> RB >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "MadMarx" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:22 PM >> Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR >> >> >>> I had driven a distance of about 351 km = 219mls in 3H. >>> >>> >>> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- >>> Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] >>> Im >>> Auftrag von Jason Ostrowski >>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. Januar 2013 00:20 >>> An: TeriAnn J. Wakeman >>> Cc: fot@autox.team.net >>> Betreff: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR >>> >>> Yes TeriAnn, >>> I would say that would count, but need distance traveled in how many >>> # of >>> hours. >>> For all we know mad marx may have traveled the same distance in just >>> over >>> 3 >>> hours (have you seen his in car videos?) Jason On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 >>> at >>> 5:04 >>> PM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: >>> >>>> Does a time distance rally count? Don't forget that Steve Hedke >>>> did >>>> The Great Race 2003 in a TR3. >>>> >>>> TeriAnn >>>> >>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: >>>> http://www.team.net/donate.**html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/fot/jason@** >>>> >>>> multivintage.com>>> vintage.com> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas@cox.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 18:22:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501FE40692 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:22:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4119A40427 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:18:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.87]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tAGD1k0011smiN4ACDDkKn; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:13:44 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tDDj1k00Q2yr1eL8gDDjD9; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:13:43 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:13:43 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Fot@autox.team.net s=q20121106; t=1359335624; bh=osgGiDb+NQuLHNB8WPOvjHyFveaCl9gDtpKmsXZoT9A=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=Bqjo1b5yMvKV4LcRABlefdtJsdzzjI49+WVjKLde7cR9BjzU4Uegjt+CBbG1akiUN +fJBQd8cA3VwUlcJYDl67PxiH7RYIjbf+sSr8HbYTsmnmfbOvVqicr5YVLNFwTxHcA uFP0haYj8/DEkxGmIuDkNhErUwI3Mz11GvfYcobqkpxrOclajI8Zi7e4JM0qWy6DXc wFMKP1ZFPGZCCVFuVREG8K0KrUDqCFpzwDPJE6L54ZoLx/2kuWb7zqKxsRQ6xmZ0Z2 juhTBzkmJVrYMdKci0ZzQK4Xazk/Bm1qnRYc9P8bQaAyMBYAUB9/tnmYLup+Z4ULj0 RMmPugsbg55Xg== Subject: [Fot] First drive in my TR3 today Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, I drove my TR3 for the first time today. So far so good. What a joy ! As I said in my "first start" message to the group a week ago, as far as I know the car has not been on the road since 1975 and today was the first drive since a nut and bolt restoration into a vintage race car. The alignment needs a little tweaking, but the engine sounds and ran great, trans shifted beautifully, the suspension and brakes felt great. My brother was my co-driver and got some vid of the experience. He trusted my work enough to get in and go with me. He was as excited as I was. He has witnessed the 57 month project on almost a weekly basis. I recently posted some photos on Photobucket of the the build process and will connect the link to the group soon. Thanks again to everyone who shared their advice, information and Triumph experience. FoT are the best ! I'l be sure to keep the group informed as this experience progresses to my first track drive. Dave H. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 19:22:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF7F403C8 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:22:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A220403C8 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:20:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.226.177] by nm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 02:16:16 -0000 Received: from [98.138.86.157] by tm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 02:16:16 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 02:16:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 99113 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Jan 2013 02:16:16 -0000 s=s1024; t=1359339376; bh=i+MvgiK9HeHlKSYQOxe5IxbEJXuM+MSLx+pd+Gge/PE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Y3wRDqWJmUFgWR6svLtbSlk2rk9+QyFFDq8N4j8n+/zRov/hiRUCBJ7i95yiPt/kdC5FscRp0psHiNzK7K5emBCFMe1oFy/zo5Q5kMdF7Jrljiy9T8pnx4bb+8cH2xwxkc7fVaO6UM42d8iFw15V6tNwq7UVcrJ2f2/orfOLYmQ= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QmP1CNeMjxDrr7GBxoUPekVf/umW6c3KmNxyRdBzfGX+NyvBjIXa+C01ah55zHsMRCbTVMyqUZaF1/AbpD71CWdKnvaiFEdKxm1UcVIb187FuCMfFlcX6VAW7FVmeIMdO7E/UrZa84D3TA5ir+8GLSGEkewDab8y1UIjpBaYsnQ=; UXGJlhkF3Zl18kEx.zx37.DyTgYoQG5_WcxPF93m4zxzVih9yxiie6u2vaoV bMYLFvYe9BM_JxYAUXaqxnaQTKGV19z8YtsxU0vrnS4AcSHUMPrYb0kKvoVO yxRHICcmSRPdUQatJeeCtUL01b.21aW86ewVU3kkCVOawUZ6iqLEj0v7feGf NmQAIGftIb0LhGJu9HKIlMOIdqiJEDG8GugUSIcE_lFo5VRLm_Vf.M33nRiu rwMkv8E38FPa5m99c5riqCfdTcCZgtASJaaUvy3Q8cJw3hkXT6F1LO8srisL lhXAJdJhecKid1QT0_STRjck1Mer4YBAdcdnsEHx5ez1H01X9X8pIjiJJ7G1 GIeO6r5Ybhn0V4aCIIGotJgXzhHF8bdOjwsfZhLGlWs_xaKbdIB69Hx7Hns5 SR7YsaRh53rwQTVRrqvZzT0D4G3ddBVZ8XoR_q0xiFJOpd11kFUZx46Z2cHG RoeDBWChtwA-- Received: from [66.242.210.8] by web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:16:16 PST SSBoYXZlIHNlYXJjaGVkIHRoZSBBcmNoaXZlcyBmb3IgYSBzb2x1dGlvbiB0byB0aGlzIHByb2JsZW0gbXkgVFI0LiBIYXMgYW55b25lIGZpeGVkIHRoaXMgcHJvYmxlbSB3aXRob3V0IHB1bGxpbmcgdGhlIGhlYWQ_IEkgd291bGQgbGlrZSB0byBzdG9wIHRoZSBsZWFrIGVpdGhlciB3aXRoIHRoZSBoZWFkIG9uIHRoZSBlbmdpbmUgb3IgYXMgYSBsYXN0IHJlc29ydCBwdWxsaW5nIHRoZSBoZWFkLg0KS2VuIFN1aHJlDQoxOTY5IFRSNCAjNzkBMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:16:16 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Suhre To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Pushrod tube leaks oil Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have searched the Archives for a solution to this problem my TR4. Has anyone fixed this problem without pulling the head? I would like to stop the leak either with the head on the engine or as a last resort pulling the head. Ken Suhre 1969 TR4 #79 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 19:23:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882D540E5B for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:23:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm35.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm35.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.28]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9862B403C8 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:23:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.226.179] by nm35.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 02:18:43 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.169] by tm14.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 02:18:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1070.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 02:18:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 28723 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Jan 2013 02:18:43 -0000 s=s1024; t=1359339523; bh=O7LJyHOZ86UXdSBKmI6/xj/2QfxOuepHa5gP/YS13rs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zoi6eG3ita49NBGwtTfX/G19zqkYdx7H72hNfQj7SZWDkH+9BKWwUqTDNYkVI100Zv56yfZq3QOyo4mq2+Rvz4veejA2EogCDlXKU9s8IuexsvU4uMaffye5lXDWWwa11PI2/wvDw0tbKQrEdxrtPBS5vCO5gU3qjujxdyeHbig= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mREiwyOj2VEZfR1h6eaVQN6jVeetjOXcUiBzz2D0uB7gp/ipYqFitbwfZv4tr8FhfrjjAEWqHRp8GuXy37wXd6lub87pmJS3aXxNnbCEDMG0DUNbB0F49xYn0u6FbYBvIT1if/idkgdvdjLRCm+/ODQGFpLNmIhPUNQ3zzSlp7Q=; wn.9wv6eFQxBLfNsYlUKOU0hMl46lOy4VLa2r6Xo9f1BySaUgW7NeA9bTZlk 2EVJJN5lGo6xL.Zz8cf7NJFdPz0oVoBsnH_gZn82htN175GVhQMrxbQ2xCri NiqLCoo9yaDlswv.nHedhZCZZfebakqUB0aStLUkIDd_525xkHQnVWtDuqTL c0g7_XC9GBNNnQWwwAsOnD8eu5JJAiQzBfI22tYn7oiTLMHRIy_mfaBztJ5V nSgTLdyoDr5JRLuuMcllarIRusHZVIvhMElvcjs4SXvEEgUa_A6_RBJxrdD6 dagWOUq6MSZYg8BKjHaZYHiCLxi0VjaT4ZknfBDLCrv6j.aiFj7hRHrzpnQu hrzvFukYaOf6as6Pp4SssQ8zeV3XLfAvKFtoL7RJhNbuPK8cD_RJRAtfdU4l MuaqmSGQZGKQLHGnzseiQ6CTRoSpaaq1qQTDCrUDcYnV3aIcu Received: from [66.242.210.8] by web126103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:18:43 PST Q29ycmVjdCB0aGUgeWVhciB0byAxOTYxIFRSNCAjNzkuDQpLZW4gU3VocmUBMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:18:43 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Suhre To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Pushrod tube oil leak. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Correct the year to 1961 TR4 #79. Ken Suhre _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 19:38:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C4C403F7 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:38:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29337403E9 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:28:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08668A07C9 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:25:54 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:25:54 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15.1 To: FOT References: <1359339376.98926.YahooMailClassic@web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Pushrod tube leaks oil Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Did you also search the Triumph list archives? I'm sure this has been discussed there before. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 19:38:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EDDF403EC for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:38:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03450403A6 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:31:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.204]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id ABE541C000088; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:26:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mse005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mse005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.81]) by mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 61149E000087; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:26:33 -0500 (EST) References: <1359339376.98926.YahooMailClassic@web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: kenandtweety@yahoo.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by Webmail-d106.sysops.aol.com (205.188.171.200) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:26:33 -0500 Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:26:33 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1359339993; bh=HRFjRcQBbfuwJwklZK9rjiLWyXuDXC3HqN34DzYbdns=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=C+oMLh4A2/+3xNbClO49IeVMg7YHh6+LZp+RkZ8vx0+xII3gC3PxpESVrRftPsdEv tk7T9DHVwqB8QP75x6rqUkgDEyQLLUd03SpqI2X3RSnZ43/8aPlvnvNTtkNGtmDkKL nGhQHTouyjWBcAZ654LbBsnkC0UQ0t8kljzV//KY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cc5105e1d96853 Subject: Re: [Fot] Pushrod tube leaks oil Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I used a Craftsman socket with a small end that steps down. It worked great as a swaging tool. Multiple light taps to move material. Of course you can only do the top. I am sure some will also say to use carb cleaner at the tubes and add some sealant of some kind. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Ken Suhre To: FOT Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2013 8:18 pm Subject: [Fot] Pushrod tube leaks oil I have searched the Archives for a solution to this problem my TR4. Has anyone fixed this problem without pulling the head? I would like to stop the leak either with the head on the engine or as a last resort pulling the head. Ken Suhre 1969 TR4 #79 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 19:39:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E18D40427 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:39:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F24400A5 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:34:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tE931k00117UAYkADEVicb; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 02:29:42 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tEVh1k00G2vctGa8ZEVhUq; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 02:29:42 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "Ken Suhre" , "FOT" References: <1359339376.98926.YahooMailClassic@web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:29:41 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1359340182; bh=bKzMDceumTRu5EJspHm3g/1TiF75gNO/4WL02BKw2bY=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ruBQsnimalJDXKFqGT9/F5WMH+5I6Y/gtNkpHgL8B+SWX3gY2EKQW6vbyXN7U9kGc 2P/cNKoEKVs/zN98HkLQ5yNC/TZ32ekuw5YtvynOKBqWPTPZ4j1yT62zmK9M/Q8YXm RkX20CXa0tOeItjMQ6WCpE1l9v36pYadM6rEu+6yhke3UgmuPC797aHjyfljvcqCZd H1MECpkAg5B2SoS4EIaLp/bM2EHoBkSJ+7++keD8JdyOHD/9LGZ0KPZkvcFLfXNrEU v88NvggHdnjteA7YOOnKw+1HhsbHW5n1PCKr8FbgKqUs3hQNigjzIAsJH9Wp76orgZ S3n6lsMM4qtpg== Subject: Re: [Fot] Pushrod tube leaks oil Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ken..you may as well pull the head and put in new valve guides(I don't know which valve guides to recommend.) RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Suhre" To: "FOT" Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 6:16 PM Subject: [Fot] Pushrod tube leaks oil >I have searched the Archives for a solution to this problem my TR4. Has >anyone fixed this problem without pulling the head? I would like to stop >the leak either with the head on the engine or as a last resort pulling the >head. > Ken Suhre > 1969 TR4 #79 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 19:42:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196AA407AC for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:42:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc3-s33.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc3-s33.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.108]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC58A40046 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:42:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU154-W24 ([65.55.116.74]) by blu0-omc3-s33.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:38:07 -0800 From: Charles WATSON To: , Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:38:07 -0500 References: <1359339376.98926.YahooMailClassic@web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>, <5105E1B2.6050003@bradakis.com> FILETIME=[81995770:01CDFD00] Subject: Re: [Fot] Pushrod tube leaks oil Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net What IS the best way to search the archives? My couple of attempts have been tedious at best. Hoping there is an efficient way! > Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:25:54 -0700 > From: mark@bradakis.com > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Pushrod tube leaks oil > > Did you also search the Triumph list archives? I'm sure this has been > discussed there before. > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/clw2000@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 19:53:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A769240516 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:53:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592E4403D8 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:49:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00A19A07C9 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:46:35 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:46:35 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15.1 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <1359339376.98926.YahooMailClassic@web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>, <5105E1B2.6050003@bradakis.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Pushrod tube leaks oil Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Charles WATSON wrote: > What IS the best way to search the archives? My couple of attempts > have been tedious at best. Hoping there is an efficient way! You click on the archive link below. Then you click on a list, say, Triumphs. Then you enter some words in the search box, like pushrod tube Then you hit enter, and see what happens. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 19:54:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3486640E51 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:54:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc4-s29.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s29.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.168]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E18403DA for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:54:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU0-SMTP31 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s29.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:50:08 -0800 Received: from [10.165.71.66] ([70.199.231.160]) by BLU0-SMTP31.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:50:06 -0800 Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:50:01 -0800 From: "horizonracing@msn.com" To: Ken Suhre FILETIME=[2E28CC40:01CDFD02] Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Pushrod tube leaks oil Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi all, I ues a Moroso 2 part epoxy. White-ish/blue running stuff to seal the tops of the p/rod tubes and the water plug at the cyl. Head. Just make sure the area is clean and dry. Tony Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Ken Suhre wrote: >I have searched the Archives for a solution to this problem my TR4. Has anyone fixed this problem without pulling the head? I would like to stop the leak either with the head on the engine or as a last resort pulling the head. >Ken Suhre >1969 TR4 #79 >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 20:08:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0189640E51 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:08:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.55.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A0493403EA for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:03:30 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 16964 invoked by uid 0); 28 Jan 2013 02:58:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO just64.justhost.com) (173.254.28.64) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2013 02:58:45 -0000 Received: from [173.22.113.197] (port=50254 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Tzevl-0003wB-3r; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:58:45 -0700 Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:58:41 -0600 To: Ken Suhre ,FOT From: Tony Drews References: <1359339376.98926.YahooMailClassic@web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> {sentby:smtp auth 173.22.113.197 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] Pushrod tube leaks oil Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Jack found some sort of loctite green compound that you could wick into the gap between the tube and the head. Didn't TOTALLY stop the leak but made it better. The craftsman socket method Joe mentioned came into play too. Tony At 08:16 PM 1/27/2013, Ken Suhre wrote: >I have searched the Archives for a solution to this problem my TR4. >Has anyone fixed this problem without pulling the head? I would like >to stop the leak either with the head on the engine or as a last >resort pulling the head. >Ken Suhre >1969 TR4 #79 >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 20:09:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F6540E2F for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:09:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80ABB403EA for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:06:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tAJ41k00116AWCUA3F2KlQ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:02:19 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tF2J1k00n2vctGa8SF2KsE; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:02:19 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "Mark J Bradakis" , References: <1359339376.98926.YahooMailClassic@web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>, <5105E1B2.6050003@bradakis.com> <5105E68B.5020907@bradakis.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:02:18 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1359342139; bh=GDD1gJfU375tGjE44gtNhNHxCNFhYENMuVeDSEwBoXE=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TnFXtdn5/2XFMahR0Lq8hY9Vt3gXbXZxuwO8OGVCQi/Q/NYma7QrvrpF5CeKgL8k4 5HUGZeU3u/LpN4H4qZ9Xt9BPuvZd7OBDVPxRH5gMpGsqcNJU5e6GHlpUfInYyjxQdv kuj1iX3XNLohTJdPRBtaPwG7Y3k0bmB14x9CArl9Ejg5YRMjIRzpmSnC/82d5+/Wvu PRjBEF6YxQGX17bV30pY75hKzWcUfolS07aWJ1LtTtPRhYJ0uFnS4kySOEuQ0I3p26 Hw0FSQTRBe4c/OyaM3G9uY28XOoronVHDOGu/wXx0MaFZrT60AAWeHDQ0HuyM4X93W VkWj0CHlMzZ8Q== Subject: Re: [Fot] Pushrod tube leaks oil Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mark..the archives are Fantastic..1st I knew they existed thanks! RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J Bradakis" To: Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Pushrod tube leaks oil > Charles WATSON wrote: >> What IS the best way to search the archives? My couple of attempts have >> been tedious at best. Hoping there is an efficient way! > > You click on the archive link below. > > Then you click on a list, say, Triumphs. > > Then you enter some words in the search box, like pushrod tube > > Then you hit enter, and see what happens. > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 20:12:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F59240E6B for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:12:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B5540322 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:12:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD469A07C9 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:09:11 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:09:11 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15.1 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <1359339376.98926.YahooMailClassic@web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>, <5105E1B2.6050003@bradakis.com> <5105E68B.5020907@bradakis.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Pushrod tube leaks oil Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net RACER BUD wrote: > Mark..the archives are Fantastic..1st I knew they existed > thanks! You're welcome. After all these years I'm used to people not realizing all that I provide ;-) What I would really like to do someday is make it so you don't have to search specific lists, but can search multiple, if not all, archives. As soon as everything else is working completely and up to date, I guess. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 20:26:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6033140F5F for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:26:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp1.pacifier.net (smtp1.pacifier.net [64.255.237.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B5642272 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:26:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.86.40.133] (mobile-166-137-213-130.mycingular.net [166.137.213.130]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp1.pacifier.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C6E02CA19; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:22:07 -0800 (PST) References: <1359339376.98926.YahooMailClassic@web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20130128030848.3EC2740E1E@autox.team.net> From: "J. Wagner" Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:22:05 -0800 To: Tony Drews Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Pushrod tube leaks oil Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is probably what I would experiment with.... (And maybe this is what Tony is thinking Jack used?) http://www.loctiteproducts.com/p/10/25/t_lkr_green/overview/Loctite-Threadloc ker-Green-290.htm "Capillary action" is the key! And I would clean the tubes thoroughly with degreaser, followed by spray (zero residue) contact cleaner, and pressured (filtered) air... And I'd warm the head with a blow drier.... (Just warm, not hot).... I can't speak to whether it would work... I haven't given it a shot, my tubes (street car) seem to do ok.... but this would definitely be my approach. --Justin On Jan 27, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > Jack found some sort of loctite green compound that you could wick into the gap between the tube and the head. Didn't TOTALLY stop the leak but made it better. The craftsman socket method Joe mentioned came into play too. > > Tony > > At 08:16 PM 1/27/2013, Ken Suhre wrote: >> I have searched the Archives for a solution to this problem my TR4. Has anyone fixed this problem without pulling the head? I would like to stop the leak either with the head on the engine or as a last resort pulling the head. >> Ken Suhre >> 1969 TR4 #79 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jmwagner@greenheart.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 20:55:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C36F42259 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:55:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E242740E62 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:55:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650A4A07C9 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:52:39 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:52:38 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15.1 To: FOT References: <1359339376.98926.YahooMailClassic@web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20130128030848.3EC2740E1E@autox.team.net> <30B1D592-8C7F-43FE-BA29-11E2EE1CA726@greenheart.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Pushrod tube leaks oil Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I sort of remember writing up a bit about this, maybe early 90s, when Chris Kantarjiev got his TR4A and asked on the Triumph list about these leaks. And like everyone has said, the first step is making sure the top of the tube has good mechanical contact with the head, then some sort of wicking compound like the Loctite 290 green. The hard part is getting it *clean* mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 21:30:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BAC440528 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:30:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f175.google.com (mail-ie0-f175.google.com [209.85.223.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180EF403E9 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:29:52 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f175.google.com with SMTP id c12so215661ieb.34 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:25:13 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:reply-to:x-priority:references :in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date :content-type:mime-version:x-gm-message-state; bh=H4SEW2vPQ35rsdAu74YvxhF1Dhh4IPu276roGPPC7CM=; b=GI4B8Z4zyml+UUg7fc0OkepvyRmuJb7zylFkWLTF6j9GtC/F/HxX3m3+RKfXxWqu/V LFdjomvay1SfwUe8aWn7YME/T08GYQj9eAFQKqV2fs0R7d1snDlMhpO1IITGMdBAa3vb f62X5IK7ZlxwCca7WkEME1LlgejHl24iZ6W3+RfBik7/SWgU+hhyQOXl7kbpG02YyQ0N 9VzAAiv2xJB8qRvTVKtw+VCVar3aIN3gL/xMVYKXXimJ17tUcUlyKevF3h9FaDQIst+o iNOuub8/L6ZDcc9zfpL8fxh8juYKHbhwjgSoGzw0LqDkplvzBZlTC9qKQ5zK3G4Bkjpv WHeQ== fs6mr4145850igc.79.1359347113625; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:25:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.29.196.188 (bda-74-82-80-128.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u4sm5899787igw.6.2013.01.27.20.25.11 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:25:12 -0800 (PST) References: <535304251.400459.1359335623710.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Sensitivity: Normal To: "davehogye" ,fot-bounces@autox.team.net,Fot@autox.team.net From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 04:25:09 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] First drive in my TR3 today Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net 57 months. A round of drinks for everyone! Surely, another great car has been added to the FoT ranks. I had the pleasure of meeting Dave last year at Road Atlanta. Some guys are just easy to like. In retrospect, no wonder he was so likable. Like many of us, he was under and on top of his dream car for years. That is a long time dedication. A first drive after 4 years of hard work and more time and $ than anyone would admit, I say... Bravo Dave! A moment to be proud of. In our little world, I think that its pretty safe to say this is a car built for all the right reasons. Dave, you deserve every moment of happiness this car will provide. Awesome. Jason Ostrowski Freiendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: davehogye To: Subject: [Fot] First drive in my TR3 today Hello Friends, I drove my TR3 for the first time today. So far so good. What a joy ! As I said in my "first start" message to the group a week ago, as far as I know the car has not been on the road since 1975 and today was the first drive since a nut and bolt restoration into a vintage race car. The alignment needs a little tweaking, but the engine sounds and ran great, trans shifted beautifully, the suspension and brakes felt great. My brother was my co-driver and got some vid of the experience. He trusted my work enough to get in and go with me. He was as excited as I was. He has witnessed the 57 month project on almost a weekly basis. I recently posted some photos on Photobucket of the the build process and will connect the link to the group soon. Thanks again to everyone who shared their advice, information and Triumph experience. FoT are the best ! I'l be sure to keep the group informed as this experience progresses to my first track drive. Dave H. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 21:59:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4208540EBE for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:59:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SNCMAIL.surfnetusa.com (modusmail.surfnetusa.com [66.151.140.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF84403E8 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:59:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from your89d26e0447 (unverified [50.131.247.104]) by SNCMAIL.surfnetusa.com (Vircom SMTPRS 5.0.916.0) with ESMTP id ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:56:31 -0800 From: "Greg Solow" To: "Ken Suhre" , "FOT" , "Tony Drews" References: <1359339376.98926.YahooMailClassic@web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20130128030852.40EB840EA7@autox.team.net> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:54:27 -0800 Organization: Engine Room Subject: Re: [Fot] Pushrod tube leaks oil Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Be careful using the socket to peen the tubes into place with the head on the car. It is easy to shift the tubes downward into the tappet galley. They are not supported on the bottom when the head is on the block. With the head on a steel workbench top or smooth concrete floor, the tubes can be swaged into tight contact easily. Using "wicking" loctite to really seal them top and bottom is essential to make them completely dry. The most difficult part is getting ALL of the oil residue out of the space between the tube and the head. The Loctite will not seal unless the oil residue is completely gone. Very hard to accomplish with the head on the block. It is important to not get much of the degreasing agent down the pushrod tube and into the oil of the engine where it will break down the oil. I suppose you could fit small corks or rubber plugs with a wire running through them so you could pull them back out after degreasing the gaps. The bottom of the tubes also tend to leak, they can be degreased and sealed from the out side area just under the spark plug holes. Greg Solow _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 22:17:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211D0403D7 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:17:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SNCMAIL.surfnetusa.com (modusmail.surfnetusa.com [66.151.140.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B93E4003E for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:02:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from your89d26e0447 (unverified [50.131.247.104]) by SNCMAIL.surfnetusa.com (Vircom SMTPRS 5.0.916.0) with ESMTP id ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:00:10 -0800 From: "Greg Solow" To: "davehogye" , References: <535304251.400459.1359335623710.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:58:06 -0800 Organization: Engine Room Subject: Re: [Fot] First drive in my TR3 today Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Congratulations Dave! You have done a wonderful job on the car. When you show up at the track and the FOT folks see your car, they are going to be WOWED The craftsmanship is flawless and the engineering is great! Greg Solow _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 27 22:52:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F0B40E27 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:52:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6033F403E9 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:22:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.35]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id t7B71k0020lTkoCA3HHQ4s; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:17:24 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tHHQ1k00C2yr1eL8QHHQ0x; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:17:24 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:17:24 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Greg Solow s=q20121106; t=1359350244; bh=4tEynbpW4J+LCohANZYAx78LitD5WR8U1amc7+VpRps=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=rnCYzU1c3dvpkSNgGlUWztXRKQXHOUJ1ZcyMjzMwXzExXaRFZDDRP6dUniOXsdpQt hnfmP4KiWMd0Kr0P1mO0rgPW3JHMwkJygSWs4+8t5zzohRvhIB/EKkplv1FWt8YaUX 9zRAgzCqmbAIyHQUDY9WQrkrLRfhbSQ2kJv72R1OccAG8pKRMrVk2UPsjPB731VLCn h48ZudvqNMwnWqp6bQ3nRRsmu0PC0USBoksnTyuhM3VaVP7bS4jpJFTLGBNbJ5BV5A s7viE+cPq5zM+/Zap52C6PJAVMbmSrkjPeelWKOjZD2yhvZFX0Ak50mHP8rIeejlt2 87SEqOfYXPsLQ== Cc: Fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] First drive in my TR3 today Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hey, you're back on the FoT again! That's great! I had a feeling that you might chime in about the pushrod tube issue. Thanks for all of your support Greg. I wouldn't have had the same results without your mechanical expertise and assistance. The motor pulls strong and is still dry. Oh, where the hell is that piece of wood I've been carrying around. I'll bring her by the shop if I can tomorrow. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Solow" To: "davehogye" , Fot@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:58:06 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] First drive in my TR3 today Congratulations Dave! You have done a wonderful job on the car. When you show up at the track and the FOT folks see your car, they are going to be WOWED The craftsmanship is flawless and the engineering is great! Greg Solow _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 01:16:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E265940E5D for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:16:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f182.google.com (mail-ea0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73E86403EA for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:16:20 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ea0-f182.google.com with SMTP id a12so1049589eaa.41 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 00:11:42 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=cqtVwza4J4yJpKqKuWGh7a5QhOXK/fsDUv7m2dtVAiw=; b=H/uXjoez5WEKl6TpaJnp9duwDKz5p/j/UtmtEPJgNCP6AozC4HxdlZBdXUaSWq3JBa F9/dvS/kn1BX1sIyKoC8GZjB4Bgem0yqTHRH4lnSAzfqKbZsUetB5l1uyFDyPOi0giFE JKVvO/5C2/opVyosgr3gCxYSWF1QlAH7rpfbySk0g+2CgRwPsRKqWeahPiq5uQpJHcCr kS4hKfkS4fcUAmSL7UA/8sanbTezfAF5PKl3EQT9/F0KPcPlxKMFWxtLqRuBHv7H33M5 6TkXCnCuyQl7pkGUxfDOla9LnvLzFjNr/0vGLPOI/R7wvZ9V9coYdrlmC2p2I/9o/4ed AFYw== f44mr49396829eem.14.1359360702280; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 00:11:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home ([2.171.243.238]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm14925419eea.3.2013.01.28.00.11.40 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 00:11:41 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: "'FOT'" References: <1359339376.98926.YahooMailClassic@web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 09:11:41 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac38/cN4cZleXmf0TXqvqLhS/r732QAMSvGA Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Pushrod tube leaks oil Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I don't understand this question. How can a pusrod leak? And from where to where does it leak? Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Ken Suhre Gesendet: Montag, 28. Januar 2013 03:16 An: FOT Betreff: [Fot] Pushrod tube leaks oil I have searched the Archives for a solution to this problem my TR4. Has anyone fixed this problem without pulling the head? I would like to stop the leak either with the head on the engine or as a last resort pulling the head. Ken Suhre 1969 TR4 #79 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 05:41:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32CAC40420 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:41:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm6-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm6-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.136]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F3B403DB for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:40:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 12:36:15 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.239] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 12:36:15 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1039.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 12:36:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 52368 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Jan 2013 12:36:15 -0000 s=s1024; t=1359376575; bh=/rNNfJBO+39NWI7YEdI86j6yovWcwQ4LwDBhgNa5KlQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=o8K1ipKXprNmT/On1l946z4cUMC93cgZlKx6ntRsDjFaxVSf/3MsjsQ26oAlLo3I+lX6q4Nopv6w2Hj3O/rIfKfJMuBUT2bNT4vAk/01OHxXbY1Z2+3166FHDfkW1ftRp4JUJxLu0DPoUbtLxBfPu+GJIEJbZV8OdnUkWRKfTXA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CQAlGrTOQmfIFPi9hAWPy0GSuvKEEGlJ55Yi3azKhrO7tVEKoCAlA8rz8UlRve+06xkgCZ4HWX2dBcrDOqBgvFrH7mfl3+XfTdLBCfti1P7jgyYFIgk7ttu9eG8uUpRkUUq0y7rIuekItfcGcIhCw9K6nxyVPGPdxVrDsa9dOJ0= ; vUx_WL9qihp0CY.qfMWyCJNkfU7Q9PKGfChU6NrDkYA5yCtzfqJRijhBwWUL ifSNAbh6jXTThtRUjelLW9hFzjr0F3x_woe4DTnCM2mwTCKhM2WYQZGw8Gq7 p.JqPzwPuBnB2O86DzVj5Kdp7dK7ONOvY61ARghuPzTmM7PCRLXcn95M00zL jGK1CD7WEv2ur75XLj1efX5eHz3Zixdxq38Qr2hS.kpQEeJOhuK5iaBA96dl oaNqwr0IEzyWiGhH5KRsKjbVDP29SE9bcitukrlpLIxwbpd5i_w4FNBbResh IVQtYmrQJnoOKOmcmGvQf7ZUoGS7jD9fjR2cdFihI.QFkR242zVIF8ifct72 U.2OCuXjZxCO640sbnRJT_FiSDAFI3btGwQ_l_BWlCwvEpiHjSM233RygME2 NpWzg6z9Van75coVPTsL5aoeNtDBJ3lUYr61Bz4OxBBU9TtSQc_0Pe73KA8y dVgFbQF4lSY7.6TbA.SbCDeHZdQoBTcKoSSRebRmmT3YAn7x4msQi.._3CP0 CJyyl1riW.ziShuu0haFg.IRwEimyA4ltXGhmHY_BK7TvXbmvxiVyDQZbj59 9RbhQEnwQ0hAVOx_Pf_RNuewSb43xHWefF_JRZfw4uwhXHIebbX0gWlSevHZ kI9HtHnxMhR4Jfa1Pr21ykpxNPHCDv1jLHrWB9Q-- Received: from [66.242.210.8] by web126104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 04:36:14 PST Q2hyaXMsDQrCoCBJdCBpcyB0aGUgdHViZSBpbiB0aGUgaGVhZCwgdGhhdCB0aGUgcHVzaHJvZCBwYXNzZXMgdGhyb3VnaCwgdGhhdCBJIGhhdmUgbGVha2luZyBvaWwuDQpLZW4gU3VocmUNCg0KLS0tIE9uIE1vbiwgMS8yOC8xMywgTWFkTWFyeCA8dHI0cmFjaW5nQGdvb2dsZW1haWwuY29tPiB3cm90ZToNCg0KDQpGcm9tOiBNYWRNYXJ4IDx0cjRyYWNpbmdAZ29vZ2xlbWFpbC5jb20.DQpTdWJqZWN0OiBSZTogW0ZvdF0gUHVzaHJvZCB0dWJlIGxlYWtzIG9pbA0KVG86ICInRk9UJyIgPGZvdEBhdXRveC50ZWEBMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 04:36:14 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Suhre To: 'FOT' , MadMarx Subject: Re: [Fot] Pushrod tube leaks oil Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Chris, It is the tube in the head, that the pushrod passes through, that I have leaking oil. Ken Suhre --- On Mon, 1/28/13, MadMarx wrote: From: MadMarx Subject: Re: [Fot] Pushrod tube leaks oil To: "'FOT'" Date: Monday, January 28, 2013, 2:11 AM I don't understand this question. How can a pusrod leak? And from where to where does it leak? Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Ken Suhre Gesendet: Montag, 28. Januar 2013 03:16 An: FOT Betreff: [Fot] Pushrod tube leaks oil I have searched the Archives for a solution to this problem my TR4. Has anyone fixed this problem without pulling the head? I would like to stop the leak either with the head on the engine or as a last resort pulling the head. Ken Suhre 1969 TR4 #79 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kenandtweety@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 06:06:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B12E40EBE for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 06:06:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail1.bemta12.messagelabs.com (mail1.bemta12.messagelabs.com [216.82.250.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D03403DB for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 06:01:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from [216.82.249.212:9007] by server-16.bemta-12.messagelabs.com id 7F/08-07678-F9576015; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 12:57:03 +0000 Received: (qmail 4230 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2013 12:57:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chis0225.am.amersports.int) (198.184.220.8) by server-5.tower-219.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 28 Jan 2013 12:57:02 -0000 Received: from chis0225.am.amersports.int ([10.4.34.225]) by chis0225.am.amersports.int ([10.4.34.225]) with mapi; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 06:57:01 -0600 From: "Reed, John" To: jason ostrowski , 'Friends of Triumph' Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 06:57:01 -0600 Thread-Topic: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Thread-Index: Ac38FOwhrVmbs1jeRiipb2UGgBpVlwBQgp7A Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Back when Midwestern Council did The 4 hour race, Kirk Gutshe did it solo in a TR4A IRS. The same car I used to get my comp license. That car run like a train!! On 1/26/13 4:27 PM, "jason ostrowski" wrote: The 24 hour race at Daytona this weekend got me thinking. It seems that Sebring is usually mentioned as the endurance testing grounds for Triumphs (at least here in the U.S)... lots of action there with a few different TR models. I am aware of some attempts by the factory teams to complete the 24 hours of LeMans. (early years) Anyway, anyone have any insight as to who and what car might hold the (Triumph) record for most distance covered in a competition event? Sebring, Daytona, LeMans, Lemons? I know some of our own FoT guys did well in the late 50's at Sebring...I remember hearing of a guy driving a TR3 for over 11 hours in that event (There are some great photos of this group on our own FoT website) This is just for fun ....Remember, It gets really cold here in Chicago and I need an interesting FoT topic. Whats the longest you have driven a Triumph in competition? 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[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image.png] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 06:06:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3EFD4065B for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 06:06:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s19.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s19.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.94]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46573403DB for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 06:02:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU154-W52 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s19.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 04:57:31 -0800 From: Charles WATSON To: FOT List Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 07:57:31 -0500 References: <1359339376.98926.YahooMailClassic@web126101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>, , <5105E1B2.6050003@bradakis.com>, , <5105E68B.5020907@bradakis.com> FILETIME=[08D2D7B0:01CDFD57] Subject: Re: [Fot] Pushrod tube leaks oil Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Mark - just what I was looking for! I don't recall seeing this on the page that has the log-ins and prior post links. Might be helpful to put it on there if it isnt already. Thanks again. Chuck Watson > Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:46:35 -0700 > From: mark@bradakis.com > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Pushrod tube leaks oil > > Charles WATSON wrote: > > What IS the best way to search the archives? My couple of attempts > > have been tedious at best. Hoping there is an efficient way! > > You click on the archive link below. > > Then you click on a list, say, Triumphs. > > Then you enter some words in the search box, like pushrod tube > > Then you hit enter, and see what happens. > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/clw2000@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 06:41:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D463F40C02 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 06:41:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm32-vm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm32-vm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.55]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE8140396 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 06:41:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.55] by nm32.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 13:36:20 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.244] by tm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 13:36:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1058.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 13:36:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 24927 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Jan 2013 13:36:20 -0000 s=s1024; t=1359380180; bh=VwEyoPpJgO0c5IEOs9bPJ6Phu4l67cGY6iMuqJGHYtA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XH9EG7lVxMy2pj8jBsPC0fN/uJl7AcAXoJyvmfjyibB8cO7Da9IDsDJVLm61vYrFFdOOIspwmaQK+A71CKcOCxE1qWJWYt8Rj1Z+dz49WcppFrPiszt/FNV2zVHVbQshCe6e1r1rWWSnsWk4qPbmvbkilZJEMOWHeJsLLtdNul8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fWqAdBGBxgMnmdHtpXih461oFBf0H1Q57ESNrK+t8IqMRYyXDfwACq74U6OQHIvUL/RXtsjKx3fL9BUtcxVw9yTkdxl06a11m8Z41sMPYRdpVlsE4cKUODBSbzXJUNQlsKKzOA7KKrCsmSvM6d2LXWZ5iWeX9bZwXkkITqncnkA= ; nt3qf5ntonGGZPbK9uBUAel9j5rFBuSZnNprR4j2K000tzw4mpzx3EFunpIK ElQ2havjvvLZvRLEX4fOzhie4__em6dkFmlHZa1tybebRD9d0NLhR0CrGfki iep3OYRw_4upOOprRgxXK8DmNNbj4t5M8C05aQkT_K3EC_l1lwuFwZvRghpA WdNBV_3_UrDa9vhPjO1bZS9ML9GFFFWjYPxRVRKlyl45PxWiHmLBNmFTueCj 7Z_bi3IBNkNlCTsfZBORAf9BnkeNh7UGEOs2qu4i.fdDGjuRXRRZCAJYOajO QhkIfnLLSk1syrTC7cF6LIEw4w37zvz44c92VdZPR6I8DCCcp5W1IV5JVct3 V0tRtzRGxbLr9qFkHQoQ1CgNSNgYbgWDeoF5hdhyVLcRdOoRY4OOXwpV.gL_ xgb6SWN9ZaZqPsrHBfHLj1ni7nJqL6P4u2OH0YXNcJRfBn2EOioGP5F3VhNE - Received: from [66.242.210.8] by web126106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:36:20 PST VGhhbmtzIGZvciBhbGwgeW91ciBzdWdnZXN0aW9ucy4gDQpIZXJlIGlzIHdoYXQgSSBwbGFuIHRvIGRvLiBXaXRoIHRoZSByb2NrZXIgYXNzZW1ibHkgYW5kIHB1c2hyb2RzIG91dCBvZiB0aGUgd2F5LCBJIHdpbGwgbGlnaHRsecKgdGFwIGEgdGFwZXJlZCBkcmlmdCBpbnRvIHRoZSB0dWJlIHRvIGV4cGFuZCBpdCx0YWtpbmcgY2FyZSBub3QgdG8gZHJpdmUgaXQgZG93bi7CoFRoaXMgc2hvdWxkwqBzZWFsIG9mZiB0aGUgdHViZSB0byBwcmV2ZW50IGFuecKgc29sdmVudCBmb3JtIGdvaW5nIGRvd24gaW50byABMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:36:20 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Suhre To: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Pushrod tube leaks oil Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for all your suggestions. Here is what I plan to do. With the rocker assembly and pushrods out of the way, I will lightly tap a tapered drift into the tube to expand it,taking care not to drive it down. This should seal off the tube to prevent any solvent form going down into the engine. Then after warming it with a heatgun, and making sure no oil residue remains, apply some Locktite to it on top and and on the outside where it goes through the bottom lip of the head. I probably won't know if I am successful until the next race. Mark, I did search all 400 of the treads in the Archives under leaks. I didn't find any pertaining to this. Possibly the one your remember was too old or losts. Thanks, so much, for keeping all this information possible. Ken Suhre _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 08:40:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF284069A for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:40:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail175c2.megamailservers.com (mail175c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D342E40513 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:33:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) by mail175c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r0SFSto9003367; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:29:01 -0500 From: "john hasty" To: "'Jason Ostrowski'" , "'Joe Boruch'" References: <20130126.183527.9746.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:28:54 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac38H5/f4rGtbwdjQ7KB2CETNb5rDABTB2OA a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=fmDjJsrZAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=oRrMPigNiiib1xe96AwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=YK30HMD7P3IA:10 a=aV3HoiCU0RXqzDdK:21 a=iZkNQNFY8jVONRB-:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I ran the 24 hour race at Nelson Ledges twice. First time on a 500cc Honda (1st. Place) and the second time on a 250cc Suzuki (way back). The thing that sticks in my mind about that track was that it seemed to be built around a swamp. It rained both times and frogs would come out onto the track! But, I 'spose these races don't count. Is that track still open??? John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. 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IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 6:45 PM To: Joe Boruch Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Joe Boruch wrote: > Ted Schumacher competed in the Longest Day 24 hour races at Nelson > Ledges and was on a wining team at least once. I believe this was in a TR8??? > Ted can chime in... > Yes, This is a hot topic. I got a message from Ted already... FROM Daytona LIVE! He is indeed in the running for the top spot. Keep the stats and stories coming. There are multiple categories of interest so far. Jason. FGR. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 09:11:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFA940F5F for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 09:11:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F361403A6 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 09:04:04 -0700 (MST) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=jr8cnWpoDVAA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=m9vNeEYxCNMA:10 a=T4VyYCAfAAAA:20 a=PukFr54gwjoFeC-pZu0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iom5AX2rkkcA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55002] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id E5/96-25887-C50A6015; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:59:25 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Ken Suhre'" , "'FOT'" Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 07:59:26 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac39XIVe9n/U0dhaTUCa1Zcv2N4aswAEjSVA Subject: Re: [Fot] Pushrod tube leaks oil Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > Mark, I did search all 400 of the treads in the Archives > under leaks. I didn't find any pertaining to this. Possibly > the one your remember was too old or losts. Try either "leaky" or "sealing", without the quotes. The search engine seems to have a problem with searching for phrases, so "pushrod tubes" doesn't work at all unless you leave out the quotes. (The quotes indicate to search for that exact phrase, but there are lots of posts with that phrase in the archive.) The "More with this subject" link does not work at all, likely for the same reason. (BTW the [Permanent Link] and [Original] links don't work either.) Here's a thread I found from 1997, with pretty much the same replies you got this time: http://goo.gl/WYKV9 -- Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 09:42:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F6F342282 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 09:42:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058D84053C for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 09:38:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.5]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B07DD380000F4 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:33:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.107.176.180] (mobile-198-228-225-025.mycingular.net [198.228.225.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 107EFE0000DF; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:33:58 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Bock Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:33:59 -0500 To: FoTTriumph , christopher bock x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1359390838; bh=Qz30ContsCzY+n4z0N7HwBuBB6XriLjhRCYuBpBYpps=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=gykXkO4WU0UbE7F44lHTCzU6rocoLTu8LaYdK0xl20aOKGwKoxP88D2tyCMKu24is CKBTAKRCmRNuk6HxGLCfGvgDQLz5AGZBXlNN87EgX0Lf+fqKQR+/CJ1KQZ8NsLM+xG bak2kRqATFsecgsKFFHYUlBMAlyuJOo3zmzVsOO0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29055106a87566d5 Subject: [Fot] Books Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici I have read a bunch of interesting and awesome stories. So....... Would we (FOT) be interested in a book of FOT stories and adventures? It would be of adventures and stories from our members. Maybe a few pictures both color and B&W. Books would be about $20 if we can sell 275 books. I don't know if we have that many members. I guess everyone can have their story told. What say we? Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 09:44:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE98640EA7 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 09:43:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp450.redcondor.net (smtp450.redcondor.net [208.80.204.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096284053C for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 09:40:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from cgp.netins.net ([167.142.228.73]) by smtp450.redcondor.net ({4ad064a1-3618-4418-b4ee-963987bff397}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20130128163517123; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:35:17 +0000 Received: from [208.126.78.151] (account riverside@southslope.net HELO rileyPC) by cgpf1.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.13) with ESMTPA id 474761298; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:35:11 -0600 From: To: "Jason Ostrowski" , "triumph friends" References: Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:35:11 -0600 Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If there any TR's being Chumped, there is a 36 hour enduro schedule in Washingto state in the Chump Car calendar. art de armond -----Original Message----- From: Jason Ostrowski Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 4:27 PM To: triumph friends Subject: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR The 24 hour race at Daytona this weekend got me thinking. It seems that Sebring is usually mentioned as the endurance testing grounds for Triumphs (at least here in the U.S)... lots of action there with a few different TR models. I am aware of some attempts by the factory teams to complete the 24 hours of LeMans. (early years) Anyway, anyone have any insight as to who and what car might hold the (Triumph) record for most distance covered in a competition event? Sebring, Daytona, LeMans, Lemons? I know some of our own FoT guys did well in the late 50's at Sebring...I remember hearing of a guy driving a TR3 for over 11 hours in that event (There are some great photos of this group on our own FoT website) This is just for fun ....Remember, It gets really cold here in Chicago and I need an interesting FoT topic. Whats the longest you have driven a Triumph in competition? Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside@southslope.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2890 / Virus Database: 2639/6056 - Release Date: 01/25/13 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 10:02:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E813400A4 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:02:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134D540047 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:01:54 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=jerryvv@roadrunner.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=vAmYcRDD1DQA:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=T9NHAJV5AAAA:8 a=knopNCDRF68QU4MWU5YA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=FOtma847XycA:10 a=GoXiZbM3vtBW8pQ90ITvWg==:117 Received: from [10.128.132.110] ([10.128.132.110:45203] helo=hrndva-web19-z01) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 15/3F-06396-AEDA6015; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:57:14 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:57:14 -0500 From: To: FoTTriumph , Christopher Bock , christopher bock Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [Fot] Books Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'd buy one. Maybe have something to contribute as it relates to WPTA Road Trips associated with FOT Events if that would interest anyone. JVV ---- Christopher Bock wrote: > Amici > > I have read a bunch of interesting and awesome stories. > > So....... > > Would we (FOT) be interested in a book of FOT stories and adventures? > > It would be of adventures and stories from our members. Maybe a few pictures > both color and B&W. > > Books would be about $20 if we can sell 275 books. I don't know if we have > that many members. I guess everyone can have their story told. > > What say we? > > Chris > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 10:12:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D3F42260 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:12:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm27-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm27-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.139]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA7E40047 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:04:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.150] by nm27.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 16:59:39 -0000 Received: from [98.139.173.40] by tm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 16:59:39 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp124-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2013 16:59:39 -0000 s=s1024; t=1359392379; bh=YZ+tJwNH060Tegul86ES6f7s/8HvCaT07CwOVPggM0o=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=q9jMYVunua5cBZtrP0eWoUJm8vNamkacKV1zrg52ZFOoIqxPYwbsXEWpAqSeVPXKr/hoF6xf/hZzo03jo02jAkBWl9hK6P51KfhuH95Us86FzivHwWTmawC7Kgh1QrH8vKpDNMHpuiND1TGsbL/IpIZ3fK8h/bi3t160lpv1nME= Gjy5RCKXrOhPcZltWzEHwAEmwS65PAv4fJlvW971QgfAyFpdNXzM1mzREVe. 18oNoeMrb8Jub2tV10vOrWCobXYUr54A3JCczeQarpm1eLaR2VZF1Gl6ME_i aqlHz7Hk9IWtlQbFraNjETbA_CNo_Z0W_n1ECc5uE.Aane5Ly5wxTggQd6LY ymYbPAN1GYCnVVifrJ8re9sKwYE.kAsrVP0AX9jdRskAllcNoPj1QU4eDKDu EtTPBNNIwruM77IJR1Fl2qXhiCwMkyzh.gm3ricfb46bIUC9M0BmTpC1o3I7 UMp7xsh4lirLJL0eCLljrYOkrjafX2d55THOIiFYoqrJ.ngXbD6aIcVTkmcd qsUuJGFj_aN7cbywL6zU0.vg_x13nO0AqKcdlrI3ZnXlJXVdBfw5eW65w1rz .gbtWEFi27eqTfwtjOWU0QFyxI0iwWk.xtGFMdsUR9e6H.a69ccHIaBbqBRX UmDdJURK85_06oXXMRUFyofYnmwcZn8VtrXFU6hYUzYSu.Z2ibXjbPkg- Received: from [10.74.189.139] (tr6driver@166.147.115.132 with xymcookie) by smtp124-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2013 16:59:39 +0000 UTC References: From: Jamie Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:59:37 -0500 To: "" Cc: triumph friends Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Too far for us to haul the TR6 from NC. But they are going to rotate the 36 hour race to other areas in future years if this one is successful. If it hits east of the Mississippi we'll be there, I'm sure! Jamie Palmer On Jan 28, 2013, at 11:35 AM, wrote: > If there any TR's being Chumped, there is a 36 hour enduro > schedule in Washingto state in the Chump Car calendar. > > art de armond > > -----Original Message----- From: Jason Ostrowski > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 4:27 PM > To: triumph friends > Subject: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR > > The 24 hour race at Daytona this weekend got me thinking. > It seems that Sebring is usually mentioned as the endurance testing grounds > for Triumphs (at least here in the U.S)... lots of action there with a few > different TR models. > I am aware of some attempts by the factory teams to complete the 24 hours > of LeMans. (early years) > > Anyway, anyone have any insight as to who and what car might hold the > (Triumph) record for most distance covered in a competition event? > Sebring, Daytona, LeMans, Lemons? I know some of our own FoT guys did well > in the late 50's at Sebring...I remember hearing of a guy driving a TR3 for > over 11 hours in that event (There are some great photos of this group on > our own FoT website) > > This is just for fun ....Remember, It gets really cold here in Chicago and > I need an interesting FoT topic. > > Whats the longest you have driven a Triumph in competition? > > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside@southslope.net > > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2890 / Virus Database: 2639/6056 - Release Date: 01/25/13 _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr6driver@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 10:12:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8270B42467 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:12:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC82640329 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:09:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1CC5E1C000285 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 12:04:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msc005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msc005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.209]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D51D7E00008F; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 12:04:45 -0500 (EST) References: <58A3FBE1-7714-4018-8B4D-5DFD3EBDF75F@aol.com> To: SeaCubeCo@aol.com, fot@autox.team.net, ChrisB71@aol.com From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com (205.188.181.23) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 12:04:45 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 12:04:45 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1359392686; bh=j0MQFTwcWG4ITCe9DjGO154eUrUXlqO5cFJ6Bw6N3kQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=G+SdIx3ysHcrfkpIbIkZ6H2E1wJ2uXtNcxrIPY9DjK5Y3WOcLmajvI6Cxy+BWrtEC 5KHhvalctPxxDdTlHHktsCJoRvH87u6kTnhl0R92so76vpuse8l9jF4lYbGB6Eydpd 3bNku4n999FRCADAMzJSosp3ya6K6b8TuGPCK3Jc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b5106afad796e Subject: Re: [Fot] Books Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Chris, If Francis and Tony allowed, Jack Drews has a well done version of one of his stories. Robert Johns has some great stories to tell. I know Mordy Dunst has great one...and likely more. Of course, Kas has them. My point is that there are many that have already been written and the big job would be to edit it all into a book. Actually, in this age of desktop publishing, this is a brilliant idea. Printing? We printed KAS' latest book in Cedar Falls, Iowa through a fellow enthusiast. Joe Pawlak of ISOA printed Jon MACARTNEY'S book of adventures with UNCLE JACK, the Stag......Good one Chris.... In a group of 300 FOT, there should be enough resources to win the PULITZER PRIZE. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Bock To: FoTTriumph ; christopher bock Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2013 10:38 am Subject: [Fot] Books Amici I have read a bunch of interesting and awesome stories. So....... Would we (FOT) be interested in a book of FOT stories and adventures? It would be of adventures and stories from our members. Maybe a few pictures both color and B&W. Books would be about $20 if we can sell 275 books. I don't know if we have that many members. I guess everyone can have their story told. What say we? Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 10:43:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1054227F for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:43:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60B4A40571 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:35:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.87]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tSLq1k00A1smiN4A3VWYsD; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:30:32 +0000 Received: from sz0004.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tVWX1k00m2yr1eL8gVWYhf; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:30:32 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:30:31 +0000 (UTC) From: toodamnfunky@comcast.net To: fot (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) s=q20121106; t=1359394232; bh=2OzpqsKgvoAeauC9W8BYAMtBo6UATPXkbWzQqNoBh/w=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=ERiWFdRNmUa74i/Xg62XIrfjMFKsiNzpIX2EmCbllwrBqyDoe7ZlTuU/yFdDUL1dV eATEJO5mdUCHCxc+gvatdgKN+pvanIWTSozFOVXPqzRhAMtnInFge1m3nzaM5sKX+W 3Un1FRP7yR7gL13kwNxm3KbIJ6P2s2ldi7hl8SgJzjf2NSRn1tZoScFkJ5Lq7UUbVi t0pZw7ioXxFxNpDje8PqzY9AKmA1npsyA23MnjVHU6UN5sX43qQWG6JnW2o/O8tOSF HeZTecLxkMXZNrwM1gR4pRVLxmCQiUFFhKapW/7DsD8LspFApiAShfBOqWyNk5OPkd ELXl02XBoQMaQ== Subject: [Fot] Flex hone life span & lube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FoT I'm just inquiring about flex hones. I have one I've used once and on the second time round It doesn't seem to cut the way it did last time. Since they are made to a specific bore size their service life has to be limited but how limited ? Also, what is everybody favorite cutting solution to use while running a hone. Thanks as always, jim g _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 10:43:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7147442282 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:43:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s48.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s48.snt0.hotmail.com [65.54.61.99]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C0740324 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:43:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT120-W8 ([65.55.90.73]) by snt0-omc2-s48.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 09:39:13 -0800 From: Kas Kastner To: "n197tr4@cs.com" , Christopher Bock , fot , Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:39:11 +0000 References: <58A3FBE1-7714-4018-8B4D-5DFD3EBDF75F@aol.com>, <8CFCB90B50576DD-160C-31F9E@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> FILETIME=[633C3850:01CDFD7E] Subject: Re: [Fot] Books Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I know one thing for absolute sure, if you go into self publishing be sure to throw everything out of one stall in your garage 'cause that is where the unsold books will live for eternity. :-) No more lawn mowers, no more beer taps, no more race cars or gun works or snow blowers or stacks of old magazines, gone forever to make room for your newly found book inventory. Never be beaten by equipment > To: SeaCubeCo@aol.com; fot@autox.team.net; ChrisB71@aol.com > From: n197tr4@cs.com > Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 12:04:45 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Fot] Books > > Chris, > > If Francis and Tony allowed, Jack Drews has a well done version of one of his > stories. > > Robert Johns has some great stories to tell. > > I know Mordy Dunst has great one...and likely more. > > Of course, Kas has them. > > My point is that there are many that have already been written and the big job > would be to edit it all into a book. > > Actually, in this age of desktop publishing, this is a brilliant idea. > > Printing? We printed KAS' latest book in Cedar Falls, Iowa through a fellow > enthusiast. Joe Pawlak of ISOA printed Jon MACARTNEY'S book of adventures > with UNCLE JACK, the Stag......Good one Chris.... > > In a group of 300 FOT, there should be enough resources to win the PULITZER > PRIZE. > > > > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Bock > To: FoTTriumph ; christopher bock > Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2013 10:38 am > Subject: [Fot] Books > > > Amici > > I have read a bunch of interesting and awesome stories. > > So....... > > Would we (FOT) be interested in a book of FOT stories and adventures? > > It would be of adventures and stories from our members. Maybe a few pictures > both color and B&W. > > Books would be about $20 if we can sell 275 books. I don't know if we have > that many members. I guess everyone can have their story told. > > What say we? > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 10:58:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C5042274 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:58:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA84D403C8 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:55:14 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rdavis4@cfl.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=vAmYcRDD1DQA:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=knopNCDRF68QU4MWU5YA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=G4b9rEKDMGvtoIkW0Y0qgw==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.175] ([10.127.132.175:56561] helo=cdptpa-web24-z02) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id FA/65-25866-A6AB6015; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:50:34 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 12:50:34 -0500 From: To: FoTTriumph , Christopher Bock , christopher bock Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [Fot] Books Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm in. Bob Davis ---- Christopher Bock wrote: > Amici > > I have read a bunch of interesting and awesome stories. > > So....... > > Would we (FOT) be interested in a book of FOT stories and adventures? > > It would be of adventures and stories from our members. Maybe a few pictures > both color and B&W. > > Books would be about $20 if we can sell 275 books. I don't know if we have > that many members. I guess everyone can have their story told. > > What say we? > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rdavis4@cfl.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 11:18:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A7640F5F for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:18:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C534056A for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:18:45 -0700 (MST) a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:17 a=a1-zNaUMPu0A:10 a=Bu-VXal1WqcA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=kDfvQ8Zqh0wA:10 a=ODESB4vSAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=uNr4AtAaAZYYx23lEagA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=5mc__GVQu-DsdfRE:21 a=u7DOhjRv6qV3h2pe:21 a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:117 Received: from [75.86.207.181] ([75.86.207.181:62092] helo=HPLaptop) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 8E/AB-08009-CEFB6015; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:14:05 +0000 From: "Steve Yott" To: , "'fot'" Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 12:14:03 -0600 Organization: Silver Lake Triumphs Thread-Index: Ac39fk/KPzoA+JgVSyyga4A2pIAYowABEXgA Subject: Re: [Fot] Flex hone life span & lube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I would recommend taking a look at the following site... No personal involvement here it's just that I have read most of their info which is good. Flex Hones come in various sizes in the cylinder bore range by 1/4 and 1/2 inch increments. You do not need an exact size but should use the next oversize if you are honing a bore that is the same as a size offered. They recommend Flex Hone oil but I use a 50/50 mix of mineral spirits and automatic transmission fluid. I always use two grits and normally start with a 120 and then finish with a 240. http://www.enginehones.com/ Steve Yott -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of toodamnfunky@comcast.net Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 11:31 AM To: fot Subject: [Fot] Flex hone life span & lube FoT I'm just inquiring about flex hones. I have one I've used once and on the second time round It doesn't seem to cut the way it did last time. Since they are made to a specific bore size their service life has to be limited but how limited ? Also, what is everybody favorite cutting solution to use while running a hone. Thanks as always, jim g _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 11:44:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B3342286 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:44:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 254B540533 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:37:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 67FBC1C000059; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:33:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mte001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mte001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.236.65]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 3812EE000093; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:33:15 -0500 (EST) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:33:14 -0500 (EST) To: kaskas@cox.net, n197tr4@cs.com, seacubeco@aol.com, fot@autox.team.net, chrisb71@aol.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1359397995; bh=NMVIGT4gMRu5q860ccbTfsr+Hunbv5RS/quGGfdCGGI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gMB+yxnVvDFJtXTf5pZY0KZ/nsLvEu5ddiW4D4fJ/CmaATE7TfbyUh2MXBVMGyxVA MLtZifu2rNMZvDngkaPPEhHJD6Ej2YkQ2sTSyzA98faTtQo5Td4fQSCmfe0Y/Os7HQ BV9ADoJe4rCC4uGn/X/XQax+Yu4QLgke/8JOBDe8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b5106c46b7baf Subject: Re: [Fot] Books Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 01/28/2013 11:39:18 AM Central Standard Time, kaskas@cox.net writes: > I know one thing for absolute sure, if you go into self publishing be > sure to > throw everything out of one stall in your garage 'cause that is where the > unsold books will live for eternity. :-) No more lawn mowers, no more > beer > taps, no more race cars or gun works or snow blowers or stacks of old > magazines, gone forever to make room for your newly found book inventory. > Hmmmm... I wonder how long before that spoon fed wisdom from our Guardian Angel sinks in. There's always flies in the ointment, and Kas knows how to point them out without stepping on anyone's toes. We could take up a collection and buy a warehouse for storing the books? Maintain it by renting space to FOT members for storing parts and parts cars? Our spouses will vote YES for the latter. Abandon the whole idea? Bill (Damdinger) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 13:01:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B79A842274 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:01:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12189406ED for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:01:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tP5Y1k0071HzFnQ53XwVUy; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:56:29 +0000 Received: from CraigHP ([76.100.209.245]) by omta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tXwV1k0045JDEd03aXwVPD; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:56:29 +0000 From: "Craig Wensley" To: , "'FoTTriumph'" , "'Christopher Bock'" , "'christopher bock'" References: <58A3FBE1-7714-4018-8B4D-5DFD3EBDF75F@aol.com> <20130128175034.54H5L.59372.root@cdptpa-web24-z02> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:56:30 -0500 Thread-Index: AQMV4cCiwb6Lz6q3lytWTkzSxjur6pXPXmAQ Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1359402989; bh=+DPhklX8yxgU14Bh3k+5+LejeNC2Zxc478IAOOoSWnw=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=c1aRsw+5wceSFgmE1MZImRugnZsAb97QI4ZVLSS+o55A1bvCbyocbGktCOsufJb4r BY1/KQ4zRbdsP460Ad5+rWbWrgSlshcWSf8u+VxyyoVfzfEfGy3V93gV6y+RAvr8Oi wnmCyz831EqeRgV0oF7+xX4HezyTNZbJOwpSzMFKZomiPL+dgniX9pFfYGy8GtExtb 7gJvWSSYgphGnR0kE2qTEJ8vhGbCVqkXzM5/DNC5kK33yY+XXaRI5RkfkrHJNR7MVW N2KO/wTj2WxFdkrVZV6zjot8Es1MkV1RUBQM2Q0ZQeY39gC68CfP+22L4cwj8BKjXP 48rnfdG3h4GNg== Subject: Re: [Fot] Books Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Do any of you remember Auto Book Men. I think that's how it was spell Anyway it was in Maryland some 30 years ago. You name it they had it. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of rdavis4@cfl.rr.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:51 PM To: FoTTriumph; Christopher Bock; christopher bock Subject: Re: [Fot] Books I'm in. Bob Davis ---- Christopher Bock wrote: > Amici > > I have read a bunch of interesting and awesome stories. > > So....... > > Would we (FOT) be interested in a book of FOT stories and adventures? > > It would be of adventures and stories from our members. Maybe a few > pictures both color and B&W. > > Books would be about $20 if we can sell 275 books. I don't know if we have > that many members. I guess everyone can have their story told. > > What say we? > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rdavis4@cfl.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/wensley_tr@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 13:06:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1925B42273 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:06:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E3F40533 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:06:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B697DA0AC0 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:03:15 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:03:14 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15.1 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] FYI Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net There are currently about 315 addresses on this list. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 13:16:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D5342277 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:16:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mailrtr01.ntelos.net (mailrtr01.ntelos.net [216.12.0.101]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F412240533 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:10:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from webmail.ntelos.net (webmail.lumos.net [209.145.64.96]) by mailrtr01.ntelos.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id r0SK5HtN022257; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:05:17 GMT Received: from d-128-234-204.bootp.Virginia.EDU (d-128-234-204.bootp.Virginia.EDU [128.143.234.204]) by webmail.ntelos.net with HTTP (SquirrelMail authenticated user rjl6n@cstone.net); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:05:17 -0500 References: <58A3FBE1-7714-4018-8B4D-5DFD3EBDF75F@aol.com> <20130128175034.54H5L.59372.root@cdptpa-web24-z02> <000301cdfd91$91292350$b37b69f0$@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:05:17 -0500 From: "R. John Lye" To: "Craig Wensley" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 Cc: 'christopher bock' , 'FoTTriumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Books Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yeah, that was a great store. I spent way too much money with them. I had forgotten all about them. John On Mon, January 28, 2013 2:56 pm, Craig Wensley wrote: > Do any of you remember Auto Book Men. I think that's how it was spell > Anyway it was in Maryland some 30 years ago. You name it they had it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of rdavis4@cfl.rr.com > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:51 PM > To: FoTTriumph; Christopher Bock; christopher bock > Subject: Re: [Fot] Books > > I'm in. > > Bob Davis > > ---- Christopher Bock wrote: >> Amici >> >> I have read a bunch of interesting and awesome stories. >> >> So....... >> >> Would we (FOT) be interested in a book of FOT stories and adventures? >> >> It would be of adventures and stories from our members. Maybe a few >> pictures both color and B&W. >> >> Books would be about $20 if we can sell 275 books. I don't know if we > have >> that many members. I guess everyone can have their story told. >> >> What say we? >> >> Chris >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rdavis4@cfl.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/wensley_tr@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 13:47:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB1A42276 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:47:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6506D40517 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:41:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.59]) by qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tTE41k0051GhbT85FYccdX; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:36:36 +0000 Received: from CraigHP ([76.100.209.245]) by omta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tYcb1k00p5JDEd03TYcbxT; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:36:36 +0000 From: "Craig Wensley" To: "'R. John Lye'" References: <58A3FBE1-7714-4018-8B4D-5DFD3EBDF75F@aol.com> <20130128175034.54H5L.59372.root@cdptpa-web24-z02> <000301cdfd91$91292350$b37b69f0$@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:36:37 -0500 Thread-Index: AQFdOr1bHIwWMX68lOweIMJwUAgAOwMV4cCiAbGe35MBjocHHZkOB9VA Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1359405396; bh=AW5y0C9XI8llCHKPkhGcGXlrxR4n4QmdL0tMSIBf+NY=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=svq5h9x4a2Pq0yuQVLDcH/Fv2vD9rgv8h/o/Ixv/hlP76FXFta2EAoPYgHpovJhxZ xpovALF4+HYL/P89liWXd7YjywE4AXIRZJjo/36XmmEBsvnNAdRYZg7zcFDHSLD5IE 2CSJ9hFWJMvc5KJmlA0ldrZh77wMD3Wl45MK2VZrzi9/YNqcp1YL2bgbQDP/ekYUhV uvEdI1ftvJQHgQ8d3LYLLidwqXBFuqZ7j5BRyZL6wNySa/TAB60A2zVzTv7ZrOxHSN aCjOMS5qHlBLULssPXC6ZzTlilNFD/bHdpaQJ5bLezcIPYwi4CwaOPcRPo6Sli/330 C86UTMqPHL9qw== Cc: 'christopher bock' , 'FoTTriumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Books Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Did you race with owner Lee Sack at Marlboro to (back in the day) -----Original Message----- From: R. John Lye [mailto:rjl6n@cstone.net] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 3:05 PM To: Craig Wensley Cc: rdavis4@cfl.rr.com; 'FoTTriumph'; 'Christopher Bock'; 'christopher bock' Subject: Re: [Fot] Books Yeah, that was a great store. I spent way too much money with them. I had forgotten all about them. John On Mon, January 28, 2013 2:56 pm, Craig Wensley wrote: > Do any of you remember Auto Book Men. I think that's how it was spell > Anyway it was in Maryland some 30 years ago. You name it they had it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of rdavis4@cfl.rr.com > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:51 PM > To: FoTTriumph; Christopher Bock; christopher bock > Subject: Re: [Fot] Books > > I'm in. > > Bob Davis > > ---- Christopher Bock wrote: >> Amici >> >> I have read a bunch of interesting and awesome stories. >> >> So....... >> >> Would we (FOT) be interested in a book of FOT stories and adventures? >> >> It would be of adventures and stories from our members. Maybe a few >> pictures both color and B&W. >> >> Books would be about $20 if we can sell 275 books. I don't know if >> we > have >> that many members. I guess everyone can have their story told. >> >> What say we? >> >> Chris >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rdavis4@cfl.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/wensley_tr@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 15:21:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE16A40F60 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:21:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5792840646 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:21:40 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=vAmYcRDD1DQA:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=prIRGjGDAAAA:8 a=pJ0rm7l-5Rg8AUviiCoA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=Bc9c7qoAuKlRg6BgnzgyhA==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.92] ([10.127.132.92:59103] helo=cdptpa-web01-z01) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 6A/D0-01431-BD8F6015; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:16:59 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:16:59 -0500 From: Randall To: fot@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [Fot] Books Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net ---- BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > We could take up a collection and buy a warehouse for storing the books? What about using one of the "print on demand" printers instead? I assume the per-book costs would be higher, but maybe not compared to buying a warehouse. Eg, http://www.thebookpatch.com/ Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 18:08:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CBC040544 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:08:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm15-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm15-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3A640395 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:03:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.196] by nm15.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 00:58:32 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.110] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 00:58:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 00:58:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 47924 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Jan 2013 00:58:32 -0000 s=s1024; t=1359421112; bh=F7GLBsTTVFh9LmX3mcAn98GE6NsPVrIPo1RbOkTb1Xg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nbCrOx70us1qXS58fAPvQKi5NnDmQ3bQbUl0oB6toPCewFJ46fCy9JWEURREl2iIskWAgDrGvDmcB/k9z9hWYA2G9zDtSFIaNJA/gQSp2mrPa7IM7DtLePfAOrxmbCEHsW4sHXm9PQWgVPGywDQovbuVdwwoHNAV/DMUfGourb0= y4V4oOI5IvLMkUEJi0ooUWV2UAUvtPr.r9gHJrnIkxws9v2X40vDE_lJTvtY cjBvlKdryTGFxjJodYU0AsEGyT070gI1dNWGNLctsOwSxkP9m5tAMCF52Maj Q3T2qpe4Yo.7qqRix_w_g6jmj9O33aIsY8hpPxocb_.w41MKOegyltRCg65T bxcuazPyE_5YI98pfXhKZSPbN0tD57Fu.ugdXJBnXLOgaveIPie1Zi0jaP51 je.KaNo0qizLGBCSQWU7VzRZLRpqaR5TZ_muJY1kCZmHnwMrhEcJhYUac_ET X3pCnoixU49qJTOtV3bPNbL9gb1NZBchDJVozRqhWD7N.q2gWm7MKYUlz_SS zXTDoROMeX1L4KRpihKUxC4PO11djbc7KaeUS6CiMaxlIayrz7.d_JYDoXSe dR9lUYmhTB4ESNG88aBSJLIl6P7Au3h50wkkU0VcKYk5yOcuo8DLnT.qewws gjZAbnl4sKL_P1XdrLS3Ij4nr1dGUZhzcHvCmQfns1cw- Received: from [76.221.83.131] by web182204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:58:32 PST aGV5ISBzZW5kIG1lIHNvbWUgcGl6emEgZnJvbSBMb3UgTWFsbmF0aSdzIC4uLiBJJ2xsICdmZWVsJyBmb3IgeW91Li4uIGdsb2JhbCAKd2FybWluZyB3YXMgNzggZGVncmVlcyBpbiBOLlRleGFzIHRvZGF5Li4uLiAgIExvdmUgQU5EIG1pc3MgQ2hpY2FnbyBicm8hICAgQlcKCgoKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCkZyb206IEphc29uIE9zdHJvd3NraSA8amFzb25AbXVsdGl2aW50YWdlLmNvbT4KVG86IHRyaXVtcGggZnJpZW5kcyA8Zm90QGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0PgpTZW50OiBTYXQBMAEBAQE- References: Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:58:32 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: Jason Ostrowski Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net hey! send me some pizza from Lou Malnati's ... I'll 'feel' for you... global warming was 78 degrees in N.Texas today.... Love AND miss Chicago bro! BW ________________________________ From: Jason Ostrowski To: triumph friends Sent: Sat, January 26, 2013 4:31:50 PM Subject: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR The 24 hour race at Daytona this weekend got me thinking. It seems that Sebring is usually mentioned as the endurance testing grounds for Triumphs (at least here in the U.S)... lots of action there with a few different TR models. I am aware of some attempts by the factory teams to complete the 24 hours of LeMans. (early years) Anyway, anyone have any insight as to who and what car might hold the (Triumph) record for most distance covered in a competition event? Sebring, Daytona, LeMans, Lemons? I know some of our own FoT guys did well in the late 50's at Sebring...I remember hearing of a guy driving a TR3 for over 11 hours in that event (There are some great photos of this group on our own FoT website) This is just for fun ....Remember, It gets really cold here in Chicago and I need an interesting FoT topic. Whats the longest you have driven a Triumph in competition? Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 18:39:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C731A40F5F for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:39:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com (outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com [64.136.47.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E346A40568 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:38:40 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1359423237; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=Xo0PK6EUOPp1iNu3sKBECAioUE2OBYzzxe/i3Zti1nm0qMTRuDCwRp7uCWs+5N25A EstjqQT91ECnLgwtm35x2CC9x/KE95NqlsoSrR6Tsbml2H1g7nMWDk23QLHn8yPlg6 d1xyTue9Jl+zd0hsrkUi3LoXIeA7rGKuZj/i6w1o= Received: from outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com (webmail10.dca.untd.com [10.171.12.150]) by smtpout03.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABJSQKZUAAGRJ4A for (sender ); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:33:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [76.23.185.62] by webmail10.dca.untd.com with HTTP: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:32:05 GMT From: "Joe Boruch" Full-Name: "Joe Boruch" Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:32:05 GMT To: jhhasty@gdhs.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, the track is still open, The facilities were somewhat rough back in 2008, but I had heard since then that it was undergoing renovations. Track had a few rough spots too. I don't know about the swamps, but it rained during the 24 hour race I drove in and got quite foggy during the night. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "john hasty" To: "'Jason Ostrowski'" , "'Joe Boruch'" Cc: Subject: RE: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:28:54 -0500 I ran the 24 hour race at Nelson Ledges twice. First time on a 500cc Honda (1st. Place) and the second time on a 250cc Suzuki (way back). The thing that sticks in my mind about that track was that it seemed to be built around a swamp. It rained both times and frogs would come out onto the track! But, I 'spose these races don't count. Is that track still open??? John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 6:45 PM To: Joe Boruch Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Joe Boruch wrote: > Ted Schumacher competed in the Longest Day 24 hour races at Nelson > Ledges and was on a wining team at least once. I believe this was in a TR8??? > Ted can chime in... > Yes, This is a hot topic. I got a message from Ted already... FROM Daytona LIVE! He is indeed in the running for the top spot. Keep the stats and stories coming. There are multiple categories of interest so far. Jason. FGR. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 18:55:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3CE540E47 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:55:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com (outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com [64.136.47.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C7E240F60 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:54:18 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1359424175; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=kbSRH3OqrTyEgDXlUZiaD4JUChJicgCiS+h7Y7xjbpla+48kas9TT/OoeYRhJtNw5 k7hDHucWYe9C9PBRDvfPFCSQfooZnhLKfWI63+Y9r9lq75gHBy7DFkiobxcsF2UhOd y+qowJyKQvi1E6ij4xV0GGMvSTYfHdONVVAzcnKU= Received: from outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com (webmail10.dca.untd.com [10.171.12.150]) by smtpout01.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABJSQLWEAXFSFWA for (sender ); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:48:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from [76.23.185.62] by webmail10.dca.untd.com with HTTP: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:47:47 GMT From: "Joe Boruch" Full-Name: "Joe Boruch" Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:47:47 GMT To: kaskas@cox.net Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 deck height Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It was more than just an impression in the carbon. It was an impression in the aluminum. Joe(B) From: Kas Kastner To: , "toodamnfunky@comcast.net" Cc: fot Subject: RE: [Fot] TR4 deck height Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 02:32:53 +0000 Impression in the carbon is just right. Never be beaten by equipment > From: jaboruch@netzero.net > Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 00:38:35 +0000 > To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 deck height > > With a billet crank and Pauter rods I use a 0.010 inch deck height, plus allow > 0.022 for the head gasket. I have run as little as 0.007 deck, but had > impressions of the head on top of the pistons. Joe(B) > ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 19:13:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C891742458 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:13:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E4C04006F for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:13:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.67]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6898A1C0002EF for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:09:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.107.176.180] (mobile-198-228-225-025.mycingular.net [198.228.225.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id A5238E0000C5 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:08:59 -0500 (EST) References: <58A3FBE1-7714-4018-8B4D-5DFD3EBDF75F@aol.com> <8CFCB90B50576DD-160C-31F9E@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> From: Christopher Bock Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:09:03 -0500 To: FoTTriumph x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1359425343; bh=QWRUOJlBDC7XA/+Cp3IvRlmtiDfAqBJYasSxHNimrU8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=JmZEC0Ik0RHFNBUTyIO9xCVM57ouUGxZr8O7i9kvR4EwQ/OG2EH5v8S3LEYIvWxv7 35ySYtxcZho6NEV/o3i/5nrtAtpWoRfOhjFL23c1beoXIOX4MUaFJ5bhgsyFUKrpkw dDlJN98jgaAcr3Ow71IsAPf/R7Oahd10KDhRZ5as= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294351072f3b3889 Subject: Re: [Fot] Books Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici I was thinking that if everyone who is a FOT member writes a story we can have enough stories to do this. There are the usual people who comment regularly but what about the other 300 who are members. What is their story? All we would need is their name location and story Example: Chris B from Delaware (now), USA I caught the racing bug when my friends were trying to figure which vintage organization they wanted to race in while building their MGA racer. Funny thing is that they own a GT6 and a TR6. While at Summit Point around 08 the big joke was, "Where is Chris? Oh, he is wrenching on someone's car!" Which was true! I was watching someone replace a head gasket and they said that if I stayed they would put me to work. They did! The other joke was that the next session the car ran the best it did all day. Also that day i helped replace an axle shaft. That was the start if it. Now while at the races I crew for the MGA, Bugeye Sprite, and a Formula Vee. Slowly I am building a 74 Spit eventually for the track. First I will have some fun with the stock parts on the street. Then to the races I go. I am going to have I share the driving with my wife. Even something as short as that would be fine. Ok hit me with the opinions I have a friend who prints books and they are helping me what would be needed from start to finish. Chris On Jan 28, 2013, at 12:04 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Chris, > > If Francis and Tony allowed, Jack Drews has a well done version of one of his stories. > > Robert Johns has some great stories to tell. > > I know Mordy Dunst has great one...and likely more. > > Of course, Kas has them. > > My point is that there are many that have already been written and the big job would be to edit it all into a book. > > Actually, in this age of desktop publishing, this is a brilliant idea. > > Printing? We printed KAS' latest book in Cedar Falls, Iowa through a fellow enthusiast. Joe Pawlak of ISOA printed Jon MACARTNEY'S book of adventures with UNCLE JACK, the Stag......Good one Chris.... > > In a group of 300 FOT, there should be enough resources to win the PULITZER PRIZE. > > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Bock > To: FoTTriumph ; christopher bock > Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2013 10:38 am > Subject: [Fot] Books > > Amici > > I have read a bunch of interesting and awesome stories. > > So....... > > Would we (FOT) be interested in a book of FOT stories and adventures? > > It would be of adventures and stories from our members. Maybe a few pictures > both color and B&W. > > Books would be about $20 if we can sell 275 books. I don't know if we have > that many members. I guess everyone can have their story told. > > What say we? > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 22:00:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D268B42476 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:00:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f45.google.com (mail-pb0-f45.google.com [209.85.160.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F58940698 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:59:56 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pb0-f45.google.com with SMTP id rq13so30023pbb.32 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:55:14 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=Om9TLq03hsaBQetgJKO32/WP+HmO/lHclidSVsxMwJY=; b=kbd2wuzZI/CdSteMFRRNXvyooyNPEtGegH/EhUI8cVMAud+fbSnvZdE3mhdkRl/PsA vsOTzI+sUFBvW3F0ogXXDQyEhVb5ZyPGpV8SMb4CbTzxGYyXHWLAQ4w5GZZeLT7ClYO8 +eZtcVHJc8nsdN0ZpaNmZbpkNLWY98JYDLYnxmt46swNhO/UQfFLmFhlE0tE/BiW6qdi AHP6o/QBLF3EPOLJafXP3zBleh+BX444iXEc5hwUOHD3DMSwBJX7jZFoAnT6Wrai9VYf n0BvK63RMFtpzldqd5/AHn85m/ZsoE9nA7RLoyYJMMKZ0JzEeOGqn1/ZJUb0pCz1CpBm 3HZg== Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:55:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.38] (udp235485uds.hawaiiantel.net. [72.234.40.189]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id rv8sm7636033pbc.27.2013.01.28.20.55.11 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:55:12 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Babcock Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:55:09 -1000 References: <58A3FBE1-7714-4018-8B4D-5DFD3EBDF75F@aol.com> <8CFCB90B50576DD-160C-31F9E@webmail-d021.sysops.aol.com> <653894CE-26A2-4A4A-9C8E-4F33D9A66D78@aol.com> To: Christopher Bock Cc: FoTTriumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Books Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On paper? Why? Probably 95% of the book I read these days are electronic, and I read constantly--probably more than 100 books a year. Authoring tools for eBooks are awesome, and it doesn't cost anything to publish. Why do it on dead trees? On Jan 28, 2013, at 4:09 PM, Christopher Bock wrote: > Amici > I was thinking that if everyone who is a FOT member writes a story we can have > enough stories to do this. There are the usual people who comment regularly > but what about the other 300 who are members. What is their story? > All we would need is their name location and story > > Example: > > Chris B from Delaware (now), USA > > I caught the racing bug when my friends were trying to figure which vintage > organization they wanted to race in while building their MGA racer. Funny > thing is that they own a GT6 and a TR6. While at Summit Point around 08 the > big joke was, "Where is Chris? Oh, he is wrenching on someone's car!" Which > was true! I was watching someone replace a head gasket and they said that if > I stayed they would put me to work. They did! The other joke was that the > next session the car ran the best it did all day. Also that day i helped > replace an axle shaft. That was the start if it. Now while at the races I > crew for the MGA, Bugeye Sprite, and a Formula Vee. Slowly I am building a 74 > Spit eventually for the track. First I will have some fun with the stock parts > on the street. Then to the races I go. I am going to have I share the driving > with my wife. > > Even something as short as that would be fine. > > Ok hit me with the opinions > > > I have a friend who prints books and they are helping me what would be needed > from start to finish. > > Chris > > > On Jan 28, 2013, at 12:04 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > >> Chris, >> >> If Francis and Tony allowed, Jack Drews has a well done version of one of > his stories. >> >> Robert Johns has some great stories to tell. >> >> I know Mordy Dunst has great one...and likely more. >> >> Of course, Kas has them. >> >> My point is that there are many that have already been written and the big > job would be to edit it all into a book. >> >> Actually, in this age of desktop publishing, this is a brilliant idea. >> >> Printing? We printed KAS' latest book in Cedar Falls, Iowa through a > fellow enthusiast. Joe Pawlak of ISOA printed Jon MACARTNEY'S book of > adventures with UNCLE JACK, the Stag......Good one Chris.... >> >> In a group of 300 FOT, there should be enough resources to win the PULITZER > PRIZE. >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> A. R. E. >> 645 1st Street >> Jesup, Iowa 50648 >> 319.464.4711 (cell) >> n197tr4@cs.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Christopher Bock >> To: FoTTriumph ; christopher bock >> Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2013 10:38 am >> Subject: [Fot] Books >> >> Amici >> >> I have read a bunch of interesting and awesome stories. >> >> So....... >> >> Would we (FOT) be interested in a book of FOT stories and adventures? >> >> It would be of adventures and stories from our members. Maybe a few > pictures >> both color and B&W. >> >> Books would be about $20 if we can sell 275 books. I don't know if we have >> that many members. I guess everyone can have their story told. >> >> What say we? >> >> Chris >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billb@bnj.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 22:12:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C074D40E34 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:12:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm23-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm23-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E583407AD for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:11:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.98] by nm23.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 05:06:33 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.76] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 05:06:33 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1013.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 05:06:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 88976 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Jan 2013 05:06:32 -0000 s=s1024; t=1359435992; bh=OXo6rYn2M15P2SAhHpeZz8heuKkpT65EDcwHc7onvBM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GKWjEW/6nVzn6MV14e3X3mK/BiJNxdUGlyCgqeBb9kakodB5kOv7gweN3KBveI+Img4cstl4mQ456SyXs/2nZ6XTZkruWkaI2s470wguvjhWIqqVLtr5/JHQuMvICe82AbbLdTHmU36V7uFMM0PXmQGz4EaKoxR6dXx2M71lFKI= t0U5Y.8XujTXlxlVt..3hrSCmTa_3PCpnqZaQoJaLTxZkftj1GFQBQ37s96F d0Sm.D.LTAyC_sAVqkhjZUhHvhYSqczm31fIeYSUBU0Z_UjLmKQJjCE4bsw9 cBror3HOufV9YbaN0Xi_VRuCOfK2lUufp58Whn0Rr8QRr_MZ40owH3SloDjc vWvnb5BRIaePW2U3lPoi5T_3KjpM0zwwvsTdMG6PJBrSWWRRMDcSXcURNiVG soPQNEYMDnk0TQVR1lLF_ObDNwHXqga3w0W2T34xYSM683GYJxs4DVdjc8By 7sxD5aWqyk9ucEmScF6LC8lCLKToixj2VsgkRlVYrVxaabGI.FdsqiflbZid RCWIw3ExEojUJIOg6dwpjGbjqbokh5J6bOM7gSQC6Ig3m9uAzCbr2aTtmzp7 Z_nWE4kAMcD6UtzriFiqAFEjOLl_JbKnMAfSu2voCARyS1jczSg-- Received: from [99.60.75.95] by web184802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:06:32 PST RG9lcyBhbnlvbmUga25vdyBvZiBhbnlvbmUgbWFraW5nIGFuZCBzZWxsaW5nIFRSNiB0cnVuayBsaWRzIG1hZGUgZnJvbSBsaWdodGVyIAptYXRlcmlhbD_CoCBUaGFua3MsIEppbQEwAQEBAQ-- References: <51046118.9070607@gmail.com>, <000b01cdfc1c$0def41c0$29cdc540$@com>, <6EF43036C63C45049181EDE195E4DD6A@Bud>, <8CFCA4B96BEAD0B-1FD4-2041B@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:06:32 -0800 (PST) From: sherry robyn To: fot Subject: [Fot] Looking for a light TR6 trunk lid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone know of anyone making and selling TR6 trunk lids made from lighter material? Thanks, Jim _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 22:46:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 932DF40E3A for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:46:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B459040560 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:46:37 -0700 (MST) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=vAmYcRDD1DQA:10 a=T8BaXmjOGMizQCnSaHQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55002] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id B6/3E-01431-12167015; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:41:54 +0000 From: "Randall" Cc: "'FoTTriumph'" Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:41:55 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac393OWVCBWq/KUlTi+b9AHUASlt7wAA51PQ Subject: Re: [Fot] Books Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > Why do it on dead trees? I can't tell you how much computer media I have from just 20 or 30 years ago that is totally unreadable today. Zip drives, cartridge tape, 8" floppies, 5.25" floppies, hell even 3.5" floppies are a thing of the past. Some of my DVD backups from just a few years ago are no longer readable either. But I can still read books printed 40, 50 even 90 years ago. (Pretty sure my 1872 book on chemical technology is a reprint, so I won't count that :) -- Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 29 01:20:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF8124248E for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:20:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SNCMAIL.surfnetusa.com (modusmail.surfnetusa.com [66.151.140.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 567584247E for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:19:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from your89d26e0447 (unverified [50.131.247.104]) by SNCMAIL.surfnetusa.com (Vircom SMTPRS 5.0.916.0) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:17:01 -0800 From: "Greg Solow" To: "Friends of Triumph" Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:14:56 -0800 Organization: Engine Room Subject: [Fot] Fw: Re: Flex hone life span & lube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Subject: RE: Re: [Fot] Flex hone life span & lube flexhone has specific recommendations for the grit to use based on the material your top compression rings are faced with. Cast irom ring call for the coursest finish, chromed rings use a finer grit and moly filled or plasma sprayed rings call for the finest grit. I believe the exact grits are noted in their catalogue. We have always honed the cylinders with a 1/2" drive drill with plenty of "stoddard solvent" that is the regular petroleum based solvent used to clean parts in a solvent tank (not a "hot tank" or "carb dip"). We then wipe the cylinder down with auto trans fluid and a white towel and paper towels until NO MORE GREY color comes comes off of the cylinder walls. The auto trans fluid is very good at lifting grit and debris out of the pores of the metal of the cylinder & at the same time prevents the walls from rusting. We like it much better than "washing with soap and water and a brush" which is the old stand-by taught in auto shop class and in vintage text books. Greg Solow The Engine Room Sports Car Specialists Santa Cruz, CA 95060 831 429-1800 ------- Original Message ------- >From : Steve Yott[mailto:tr4@wi.rr.com] Sent : 1/28/2013 10:14:03 AM To : toodamnfunky@comcast.net; fot@autox.team.net Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [Fot] Flex hone life span & lube I would recommend taking a look at the following site... No personal involvement here it's just that I have read most of their info which is good. Flex Hones come in various sizes in the cylinder bore range by 1/4 and 1/2 inch increments. You do not need an exact size but should use the next oversize if you are honing a bore that is the same as a size offered. They recommend Flex Hone oil but I use a 50/50 mix of mineral spirits and automatic transmission fluid. I always use two grits and normally start with a 120 and then finish with a 240. http://www.enginehones.com/ Steve Yott -----Original Message----- Behalf Of toodamnfunky@comcast.net FoT I'm just inquiring about flex hones. I have one I've used once and on the second time round It doesn't seem to cut the way it did last time. Since they are made to a specific bore size their service life has to be limited but how limited ? Also, what is everybody favorite cutting solution to use while running a hone. Thanks as always, jim g _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gregmogdoc@surfnetusa.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 29 01:20:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 712344247E for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:20:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SNCMAIL.surfnetusa.com (modusmail.surfnetusa.com [66.151.140.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED814247F for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:20:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from your89d26e0447 (unverified [50.131.247.104]) by SNCMAIL.surfnetusa.com (Vircom SMTPRS 5.0.916.0) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:17:53 -0800 From: "Greg Solow" To: "Friends of Triumph" Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:15:48 -0800 Organization: Engine Room Subject: [Fot] Fw: Re: Flex hone life span & lube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Cc: Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 11:34 PM Subject: RE: Re: [Fot] Flex hone life span & lube flexhone has specific recommendations for the grit to use based on the material your top compression rings are faced with. Cast irom ring call for the coursest finish, chromed rings use a finer grit and moly filled or plasma sprayed rings call for the finest grit. I believe the exact grits are noted in their catalogue. We have always honed the cylinders with a 1/2" drive drill with plenty of "stoddard solvent" that is the regular petroleum based solvent used to clean parts in a solvent tank (not a "hot tank" or "carb dip"). We then wipe the cylinder down with auto trans fluid and a white towel and paper towels until NO MORE GREY color comes comes off of the cylinder walls. The auto trans fluid is very good at lifting grit and debris out of the pores of the metal of the cylinder & at the same time prevents the walls from rusting. We like it much better than "washing with soap and water and a brush" which is the old stand-by taught in auto shop class and in vintage text books. Greg Solow The Engine Room Sports Car Specialists Santa Cruz, CA 95060 831 429-1800 ------- Original Message ------- >From : Steve Yott[mailto:tr4@wi.rr.com] Sent : 1/28/2013 10:14:03 AM To : toodamnfunky@comcast.net; fot@autox.team.net Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [Fot] Flex hone life span & lube I would recommend taking a look at the following site... No personal involvement here it's just that I have read most of their info which is good. Flex Hones come in various sizes in the cylinder bore range by 1/4 and 1/2 inch increments. You do not need an exact size but should use the next oversize if you are honing a bore that is the same as a size offered. They recommend Flex Hone oil but I use a 50/50 mix of mineral spirits and automatic transmission fluid. I always use two grits and normally start with a 120 and then finish with a 240. http://www.enginehones.com/ Steve Yott -----Original Message----- Behalf Of toodamnfunky@comcast.net FoT I'm just inquiring about flex hones. I have one I've used once and on the second time round It doesn't seem to cut the way it did last time. Since they are made to a specific bore size their service life has to be limited but how limited ? Also, what is everybody favorite cutting solution to use while running a hone. Thanks as always, jim g _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gregmogdoc@surfnetusa.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 29 06:08:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFA040698 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:08:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.wave1.net (unknown [74.219.105.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEAA440066 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:02:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from [74.219.99.56] by mail.wave1.net (ArGoSoft Mail Server .NET v.1.0.8.3) with ESMTP (EHLO mtmPC); Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:08:58 -0500 From: "Mike Moore" To: "'Joe Boruch'" , References: <20130128.203205.21636.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:58:05 -0500 thread-index: Ac39wmj1n6fycsiYQJKDaP+K4M6IDwAXaaAg Content-Language: en-us Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Nelson Ledges is still open but the surface is in really rough shape, this is where I have been practicing the past 2 years. It's a great layout, and only costs $130 for a track day. Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Boruch Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 8:32 PM To: jhhasty@gdhs.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Yes, the track is still open, The facilities were somewhat rough back in 2008, but I had heard since then that it was undergoing renovations. Track had a few rough spots too. I don't know about the swamps, but it rained during the 24 hour race I drove in and got quite foggy during the night. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "john hasty" To: "'Jason Ostrowski'" , "'Joe Boruch'" Cc: Subject: RE: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:28:54 -0500 I ran the 24 hour race at Nelson Ledges twice. First time on a 500cc Honda (1st. Place) and the second time on a 250cc Suzuki (way back). The thing that sticks in my mind about that track was that it seemed to be built around a swamp. It rained both times and frogs would come out onto the track! But, I 'spose these races don't count. Is that track still open??? John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 6:45 PM To: Joe Boruch Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Joe Boruch wrote: > Ted Schumacher competed in the Longest Day 24 hour races at Nelson > Ledges and was on a wining team at least once. I believe this was in > a TR8??? > Ted can chime in... > Yes, This is a hot topic. I got a message from Ted already... FROM Daytona LIVE! He is indeed in the running for the top spot. Keep the stats and stories coming. There are multiple categories of interest so far. Jason. FGR. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore@wave1.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 29 06:39:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9FA40645 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:39:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD05C4055C for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:36:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.22.217]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MHE005MQ2WOZO10@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:31:38 -0600 (CST) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Randall" References: Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:31:36 -0500 Cc: 'FoTTriumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Books Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amen Randall, I have a couple dozen books autographed by the authors. One of my treasures is a ski racing book signed by Billy Kidd at Steamboat Springs in 1985. What was the hot computer setup in those days? Michael Argetsinger signed his Walt Hansgen book for me (and his others) at Watkins Glen over the last few years. Great memories. Throw in Kas's books, and Carroll Smith's also. Then, of course, there's B S Levy! (Well named!) ((I like Burt)) All this computer stuff is nice, but give me a book any day. Peace. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randall" Cc: "'FoTTriumph'" Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Books >> Why do it on dead trees? > > I can't tell you how much computer media I have from just 20 or 30 years > ago > that is totally unreadable today. Zip drives, cartridge tape, 8" > floppies, > 5.25" floppies, hell even 3.5" floppies are a thing of the past. Some of > my > DVD backups from just a few years ago are no longer readable either. > > But I can still read books printed 40, 50 even 90 years ago. (Pretty sure > my 1872 book on chemical technology is a reprint, so I won't count that :) > > -- Randall > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 29 06:45:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB67742495 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:45:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F47340405 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:44:54 -0700 (MST) a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:17 a=7KaaxAUCt-sA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=vAmYcRDD1DQA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=d_9y-X98HFDXYCgsLQYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=vqmWs1PFGe_3Orb5:21 a=BBPvuAdh_PQkkK5e:21 a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:117 Received: from [67.255.16.235] ([67.255.16.235:64738] helo=Shop) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 37/0F-08009-A31D7015; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:40:10 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: "'Bill Tobin'" , "'Randall'" References: <3961C55940094447B193469DE0F0CE76@hpd530> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:40:10 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac3+JXHLdOtxGuBIR76OVBdV9ebtegAAC9/g Content-Language: en-us Cc: 'FoTTriumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Books Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Speaking of Burt.......... He must have a warehouse where he stores his goods before turning to cash............I could relate a few tales for a bunch of laughs if you guys go ahead with this, but would have to change the names to protect the guilty! I'm not sure of the statute of limitations in some states! russ -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Tobin Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:32 AM To: Randall Cc: 'FoTTriumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Books Amen Randall, I have a couple dozen books autographed by the authors. One of my treasures is a ski racing book signed by Billy Kidd at Steamboat Springs in 1985. What was the hot computer setup in those days? Michael Argetsinger signed his Walt Hansgen book for me (and his others) at Watkins Glen over the last few years. Great memories. Throw in Kas's books, and Carroll Smith's also. Then, of course, there's B S Levy! (Well named!) ((I like Burt)) All this computer stuff is nice, but give me a book any day. Peace. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randall" Cc: "'FoTTriumph'" Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Books >> Why do it on dead trees? > > I can't tell you how much computer media I have from just 20 or 30 > years ago that is totally unreadable today. Zip drives, cartridge > tape, 8" > floppies, > 5.25" floppies, hell even 3.5" floppies are a thing of the past. Some > of my DVD backups from just a few years ago are no longer readable > either. > > But I can still read books printed 40, 50 even 90 years ago. (Pretty > sure my 1872 book on chemical technology is a reprint, so I won't > count that :) > > -- Randall > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 29 07:14:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 463764249A for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:14:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f51.google.com (mail-pb0-f51.google.com [209.85.160.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 368DC422A0 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:14:13 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pb0-f51.google.com with SMTP id un15so298905pbc.38 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:09:29 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oHXDqB/kpnBBQZwPxExIl8Mwv0hpo1CziYMtENkMWsU=; b=y91gF8YOTpYhcQGQLl5x47kkYO8bfZgt/4fIGE1Of58jVW7M1YacQG5ohmFSPZ+1uw gEYuA8KAtKENXvQTIiBEaeJ1U6fu37G5ZIeuT6mkSuhqSA6jVIMS2WzVY21WKafDhFIp F898XwkpwvI3G52o+w5ej/a8oJoADqEsJVrLGGklt7aHteeJg5W7suCAMp3soNWavpMt PQXQHhEZriDiRSa01H7mqqbpWfro46F6y/GpLM1n7v0rRYceLJTbTCRhkwoP5c/NW3PA 8wSqKrQ288O8B11W8JmI6oitu9lefRxQgkqbk6RKhkSIKRqnLHwxPHq/XXtyRQSHj/ES +UaA== f9mr3008975pav.38.1359468569750; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:09:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-54-223.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.54.223]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ba3sm7446370pbd.29.2013.01.29.06.09.26 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:09:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:09:24 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: FOT References: Subject: Re: [Fot] Books Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 1/28/13 10:41 PM, Randall wrote: >> Why do it on dead trees? > I can't tell you how much computer media I have from just 20 or 30 years ago > that is totally unreadable today. Zip drives, cartridge tape, 8" floppies, > 5.25" floppies, hell even 3.5" floppies are a thing of the past. Some of my > DVD backups from just a few years ago are no longer readable either. That's why I will only purchase an e-book in html format. From past experience of software changes, with companies coming & going and formats coming & going, I have decided that if you tie yourself to one company's e-reader you are guaranteeing a limited shelf life for your content. Every device that connects to the web has software that will read and display html. New versions of html will be backwards compatible with older versions and is my best bet for being able to reread a book a decade or so later. I can not imagine anyone making a change to html that would render everything archived on the net unreadable. If a publisher offers an e-book in html format, I purchase the html version. If not I go with the paper version. While I have 4 book cases filled with paper books, I also have 54 books in html format that I can read on any web browser on any hardware that supports a web browser. My e-fifth book case. TeriAnn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 29 07:29:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7030424A8 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:29:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (imr-mb02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CD744069B for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:29:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8CF0638000072; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:24:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msc005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msc005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.209]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id F2235E000087; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:24:16 -0500 (EST) References: <3961C55940094447B193469DE0F0CE76@hpd530> <006b01cdfe26$28bf9930$7a3ecb90$@rr.com> To: Spitfire_Racing@twcny.rr.com Received: from 216.51.203.118 by Webmail-m122.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.212) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:24:16 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:24:16 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1359469457; bh=qcd5lL9lYOoTi4WBYQ1mJXQZmRO8EuQkkLX9ZOROZkU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WbRoJfhBysRHX0Dc5T1ThkKgVoFrdodx8MlN5AkDd2GN8pdE+y9Rbh8xK5dbbBUmM 3NA0DwTTUcFwZdGTvZzqWWIv8C0P2UEVX9WyGablIKZ3FEY6W4/PfuzGAwncUGE0gT JHostv0KK5SfKXJNZCFH6VRdazjt1VoPcvuT4UEI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b5107db90562c Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Books Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Burt had me sneak his books over the border in our rig going to MOSPORT.. I need to remind him of that....... Uncle Jack and I would have a ton of stories during our tenure of 'SENIOR TOURS', but a lot of it might only be funny to us. I suggest that an outline be made of the proposed book and see where it goes. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Spitfire Racing To: 'Bill Tobin' ; 'Randall' Cc: 'FoTTriumph' Sent: Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:41 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Books Speaking of Burt.......... He must have a warehouse where he stores his goods before turning to cash............I could relate a few tales for a bunch of laughs if you guys go ahead with this, but would have to change the names to protect the guilty! I'm not sure of the statute of limitations in some states! russ -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Tobin Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:32 AM To: Randall Cc: 'FoTTriumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Books Amen Randall, I have a couple dozen books autographed by the authors. One of my treasures is a ski racing book signed by Billy Kidd at Steamboat Springs in 1985. What was the hot computer setup in those days? Michael Argetsinger signed his Walt Hansgen book for me (and his others) at Watkins Glen over the last few years. Great memories. Throw in Kas's books, and Carroll Smith's also. Then, of course, there's B S Levy! (Well named!) ((I like Burt)) All this computer stuff is nice, but give me a book any day. Peace. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randall" Cc: "'FoTTriumph'" Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Books >> Why do it on dead trees? > > I can't tell you how much computer media I have from just 20 or 30 > years ago that is totally unreadable today. Zip drives, cartridge > tape, 8" > floppies, > 5.25" floppies, hell even 3.5" floppies are a thing of the past. Some > of my DVD backups from just a few years ago are no longer readable > either. > > But I can still read books printed 40, 50 even 90 years ago. (Pretty > sure my 1872 book on chemical technology is a reprint, so I won't > count that :) > > -- Randall > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 29 07:56:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 092C9424A5 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:56:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dfn.com (mail.dfn.com [74.116.128.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9340E4053F for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:55:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] [199.83.117.102] by dfn.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-11.5) id bbd2001c50e406a4; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:50:12 -0700 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:50:15 -0700 From: Michael Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: Randall References: Cc: 'FoTTriumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Books Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 1/28/2013 10:41 PM, Randall wrote: >> Why do it on dead trees? > I can't tell you how much computer media I have from just 20 or 30 years ago > that is totally unreadable today. Zip drives, cartridge tape, 8" floppies, > 5.25" floppies, hell even 3.5" floppies are a thing of the past. Some of my > DVD backups from just a few years ago are no longer readable either. > > But I can still read books printed 40, 50 even 90 years ago. (Pretty sure > my 1872 book on chemical technology is a reprint, so I won't count that :) > > Amen to that. I still have my old chemistry textbook that is still a pretty good reference, after more than forty years. I've lost books I've written on the computer (and, yeah, shame on me for not doing regular backups), but I've managed to hold on to the hard print books I've collected over the years (apart from the ones stored in a guy's barn when the roof blew off and the rain and snow turned them into blocks of paper). But, then, I'm just an English major who likes the look and feel of a real book in my hands. There's something solid and reliable about a book one can pick up and hold in one's hands. Dead trees? I would guess that, in aggregate, copiers today use much more paper for much less worthy purposes than do books. Hell, this is a group that goes bug nuts at the suggestion to enable rules to convert to fuel injection, or renewable fuels, but electronic books are preferable? Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 29 08:25:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461CF424A7 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:25:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm37-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm37-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.132]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D64840E5E for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:23:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.226.178] by nm37.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 15:18:41 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.118] by tm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 15:18:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp125-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jan 2013 15:18:40 -0000 s=s1024; t=1359472720; bh=ByaP5shCQNAVgPZNCdcD+3JQZpsyy7+RxYPJGispb4c=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=vMKdYmot55eu70sLKqgBzM13eFxzDxDypUxGEv9BlwoFuFjlPvS+Lc9XGp1tcBAADXubkgVW5e5zOS27iBWWmUml/3uMHMlxmgXrNLCgj66RRrbb7SDgYZpnP9e9+6CoHG9CKsjSTcMIsAeAcO0SehpsBvLNqtbBmIoRhDFJSw0= z.nh07tKJcw.vxC12f6CrLiUa82Fkl47ofSKpG.dwFwZ.mVG.vYVRKH4mo0H d95tcz7MSVP1uw93Sou1Hv9k13bHyU4O3hmMDlUyVDSs_.7FhdSn7YLBecXO knGU6qA6n3OyJ2kCKjN4zZexM6JMiabGBfyC3Ra2u5b.tnkl.1zoCSgEetYB 1WZ1ASw2qo5PP3jjJGSGA2Lf7HOd3KKJdXGOFica7yKPNzlQsLA34znMtFn0 8FKuATvBt3suDTfqsCdQ5HfoGgE5MGn5MFUNnGKhP6LsQ1DpQN9.hr0I9bTj hRM4FrZ_C0UBEcTahjvRzhufv59WHkkcsWBjkkQBsbNCV10NQlfEc52tBNpe 1ZKLciSgfiKZl8ODnt_A9LF0pYow4N4pA94_IDRjm1oaH_aCMm2IYKZNTt1D CsVOi0lQwlrCrmLsVFCJh5fzd2ppbVAAoNYNSYvEHlLvDqdpXWOr38m0wtWA LiZKx3FfIWqaG2RtCOosWsaf7.o_lj63Dea_QiPE6hHbFhHqGWGl7byMX5HA sXCItrmZb6KcUo4rS9rQa9SaJ Received: from [192.168.2.2] (Tylerpthompson@67.190.144.189 with xymcookie) by smtp125-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2013 15:18:40 +0000 UTC References: <8F3EDDE103EE4F428660E98A6AF5F57A@your89d26e0447> From: "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:18:40 -0700 To: Greg Solow Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Re: Flex hone life span & lube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Great post Greg. These are the posts I like to see. Very thorough and very helpful! I learned something new today! Ty TR4 #413 Sent from my iPad (Please excuse any errors or typos) On Jan 29, 2013, at 1:15 AM, "Greg Solow" wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: ; > Cc: > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 11:34 PMgh > Subject: RE: Re: [Fot] Flex hone life span & lube > > > flexhone has specific recommendations for the grit to > use based on the material your top compression rings > are faced with. Cast irom ring call for the coursest > finish, chromed rings use a finer grit and moly > filled or plasma sprayed rings call for the finest > grit. I believe the exact grits are noted in their > catalogue. We have always honed the cylinders with a 1/2" drive > drill with plenty of "stoddard solvent" that is the > regular petroleum based solvent used to clean parts > in a solvent tank (not a "hot tank" or "carb dip"). > We then wipe the cylinder down with auto trans fluid > and a white towel and paper towels until NO MORE GREY > color comes comes off of the cylinder walls. The > auto trans fluid is very good at lifting grit and > debris out of the pores of the metal of the cylinder > & at the same time prevents the walls from rusting. > We like it much better than "washing with soap and > water and a brush" which is the old stand-by taught > in auto shop class and in vintage text books. > > Greg Solow > The Engine Room > Sports Car Specialists > Santa Cruz, CA 95060 > 831 429-1800 > > > > ------- Original Message ------- > From : Steve Yott[mailto:tr4@wi.rr.com] > Sent : 1/28/2013 10:14:03 AM > To : toodamnfunky@comcast.net; fot@autox.team.net > Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [Fot] Flex hone life span & lube > > I would recommend taking a look at the following > site... No personal > involvement here it's just that I have read most of > their info which is > good. Flex Hones come in various sizes in the > cylinder bore range by 1/4 > and 1/2 inch increments. You do not need an exact > size but should use the > next oversize if you are honing a bore that is the > same as a size offered. > They recommend Flex Hone oil but I use a 50/50 mix of > mineral spirits and > automatic transmission fluid. I always use two grits > and normally start > with a 120 and then finish with a 240. > > http://www.enginehones.com/ > Steve Yott > -----Original Message----- > > > > > Behalf Of toodamnfunky@comcast.net > > > FoT > I'm just inquiring about flex hones. I have one I've > used once and on the > second time round > It doesn't seem to cut the way it did last time. > Since they are made to a > specific bore size > their service life has to be limited but how limited ? > Also, what is everybody favorite cutting solution to > use while running a > hone. > Thanks as always, > jim g > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gregmogdoc@surfnetusa.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tylerpthompson@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 29 08:42:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262D1424D0 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:42:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D259D4249B for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:38:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.76]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id toag1k0041eYJf8A1rZmpr; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:33:46 +0000 Received: from sz0004.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id trXm1k00U2xZMJ401rXmjz; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:31:46 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:31:46 +0000 (UTC) From: toodamnfunky@comcast.net To: Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) s=q20121106; t=1359473626; bh=6K0IiMBnrE+tMLC8I+m8PW2arVQ3Lbuf2zPfXoIuxg0=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=Nm/4DHwnWvnyXwuNsAnIoeuW+d7WA7G6Oyt2Mzy5a7D7GUJlBOiTmxUDH7fd5PW33 0OjxunFZFgiZJ7NXp87FeIAxRkYQ011+1I/Hi1ZmR5tdXsR9Fje0uugRi4IhbI3w7g H1T08ltWE3BP1/IuwxS9/kZoB223ZiOG+rJh84ZrPlYeM5YIIy10U4xJ+J37C+ZckO nPVm4WclDl7JmzLHiA6El2kSOCsp0MZc3OXm8e+Kyn2izK69rRcBYgofYLVA5v/iVL xW77UQ5UptQ9koU6DB/WYT168Umc5GQuNZ44OcH7DbP7imWPgZqmedRMibgHhvzTrU 1AwYfpG5DO67A== Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Re: Flex hone life span & lube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I second that ! jg ----- Original Message ----- From: Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com To: "Greg Solow" Cc: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:18:40 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Re: B Flex hone life span & lube Great post Greg. B These are the posts I like to see. Very thorough and very helpful! B I learned something new today! Ty TR4 #413 Sent from my iPad (Please excuse any errors or typos) On Jan 29, 2013, at 1:15 AM, "Greg Solow" wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: ; > Cc: > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 11:34 PMgh > Subject: RE: Re: [Fot] Flex hone life span & lube > > > flexhone has specific recommendations for the grit to > use based on the material your top compression rings > are faced with. Cast irom ring call for the coursest > finish, chromed rings use a finer grit and moly > filled or plasma sprayed rings call for the finest > grit. I believe the exact grits are noted in their > catalogue. B We have always honed the cylinders with a 1/2" drive > drill with plenty of "stoddard solvent" that is the > regular petroleum based solvent used to clean parts > in a solvent tank (not a "hot tank" or "carb dip"). > We then wipe the cylinder down with auto trans fluid > and a white towel and paper towels until NO MORE GREY > color comes comes off of the cylinder walls. B The > auto trans fluid is very good at lifting grit and > debris out of the pores of the metal of the cylinder > & at the same time prevents the walls from rusting. > We like it much better than "washing with soap and > water and a brush" which is the old stand-by taught > in auto shop class and in vintage text books. > > Greg Solow > The Engine Room > Sports Car Specialists > Santa Cruz, CA 95060 > 831 429-1800 > > > > ------- Original Message ------- > From B B : Steve Yott[mailto:tr4@wi.rr.com] > Sent B B : 1/28/2013 10:14:03 AM > To B B B : toodamnfunky@comcast.net; fot@autox.team.net > Cc B B B : Subject : RE: Re: [Fot] Flex hone life span & lube > > I would recommend taking a look at the following > site... No personal > involvement here it's just that I have read most of > their info which is > good. B Flex Hones come in various sizes in the > cylinder bore range by 1/4 > and 1/2 inch increments. B You do not need an exact > size but should use the > next oversize if you are honing a bore that is the > same as a size offered. > They recommend Flex Hone oil but I use a 50/50 mix of > mineral spirits and > automatic transmission fluid. B I always use two grits > and normally start > with a 120 and then finish with a 240. > > http://www.enginehones.com/ > Steve Yott > -----Original Message----- > > > > > Behalf Of toodamnfunky@comcast.net > > > FoT > I'm just inquiring about flex hones. I have one I've > used once and on the > second time round > It doesn't seem to cut the way it did last time. > Since they are made to a > specific bore size > their service life has to be limited but how limited ? > Also, what is everybody favorite cutting solution to > use while running a > hone. > Thanks as always, > jim g > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > Donate: B http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > Donate: B http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gregmogdoc@surfnetusa.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tylerpthompson@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 29 08:57:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E138424A4 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:57:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s4.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s4.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A9142273 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:57:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT120-W59 ([65.55.90.72]) by snt0-omc2-s4.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:52:58 -0800 From: Kas Kastner To: fot Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:52:57 +0000 References: , <5107E1A7.8040503@dfn.com> FILETIME=[B5B98370:01CDFE38] Subject: Re: [Fot] Books Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net So write/edit the book (someone has to do that in the end) for on-line usage or a disc and the individual can read on screen, download or print as he prefers. This could solve all the COSTS portion of a study. I treasure my books and have collections of everything some writers have written. I'd mention authors but do not want to start a never ending thread of comments. I now date the front page with the time of the re-read and allow three years to elapse in most cases, then read the entire collection in order. So throw out that junk in the garage and put in books, they will never argue, and will always give the same opinion no mater how much coffee or beer you spill on them, and they will help with the insulation in the garage so you can work longer in the winter. In the worst cases you can use them to cook up the brats and then have space for a new choice. Never be beaten by equipment > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:50:15 -0700 > From: mdporter@dfn.com > To: TR3driver@ca.rr.com > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Books > > On 1/28/2013 10:41 PM, Randall wrote: > >> Why do it on dead trees? > > I can't tell you how much computer media I have from just 20 or 30 years ago > > that is totally unreadable today. Zip drives, cartridge tape, 8" floppies, > > 5.25" floppies, hell even 3.5" floppies are a thing of the past. Some of my > > DVD backups from just a few years ago are no longer readable either. > > > > But I can still read books printed 40, 50 even 90 years ago. (Pretty sure > > my 1872 book on chemical technology is a reprint, so I won't count that :) > > > > > > Amen to that. I still have my old chemistry textbook that is still a > pretty good reference, after more than forty years. I've lost books > I've written on the computer (and, yeah, shame on me for not doing > regular backups), but I've managed to hold on to the hard print books > I've collected over the years (apart from the ones stored in a guy's > barn when the roof blew off and the rain and snow turned them into > blocks of paper). But, then, I'm just an English major who likes the > look and feel of a real book in my hands. There's something solid and > reliable about a book one can pick up and hold in one's hands. > > Dead trees? I would guess that, in aggregate, copiers today use much > more paper for much less worthy purposes than do books. Hell, this is a > group that goes bug nuts at the suggestion to enable rules to convert to > fuel injection, or renewable fuels, but electronic books are preferable? > > > Cheers. > > -- > > > Michael Porter > Roswell, NM > > > Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 29 09:11:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9460D424B4 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:11:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D0B40645 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:09:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tqHm1k0010EPchoAFs4wFH; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:04:56 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ts4v1k00m2xZMJ48Ms4v8L; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:04:55 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:04:55 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Michael Porter s=q20121106; t=1359475496; bh=u0/zZ0qN7rRYx7ysGw7GfVa/DHr3bttFTAh/jyBtzZA=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=LyDzouhRbmdc1QBlM714dLm9AL1m6W8QshruVzQrOw/yYlMypF4BJGj+98m5G2CSM /5aKSjQaXOtUTkPdQMmhABqzO5pVHlOG7AT4Ggx6NclJATJTZfkgNy56+JHBaf/1ML evRTxiER4fYyTgDtCW5GKbXdDum4JOT0IIip12MUZB3ulUcgnm2h27fZWwRMRuWvT+ Pz4j6uTXgJ3xbxgo+zL5KDhQmlgz24QbkT3nAPebUm31Mhqb0UJaYy+M9VRKCmL5oG fWJ7muKypGZYuOqU1JSW4GwxAtk2SwDFoz9CMReWLgfJe8EqQJg3IKjkMjOy7ilUhu mPPwriozwawVg== Cc: Randall , FoTTriumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Books Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yeah, and if you stack your books or place your book shelves on the right wall, they act as good insulation. And, if you place them like like my sweetie does, pretty soon you don't need curtains or windows even. Just kidding, it's really not that bad yet. Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Porter" To: "Randall" Cc: "FoTTriumph" Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 6:50:15 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Books On 1/28/2013 10:41 PM, Randall wrote: >> Why do it on dead trees? > I can't tell you how much computer media I have from just 20 or 30 years ago > that is totally unreadable today. Zip drives, cartridge tape, 8" floppies, > 5.25" floppies, hell even 3.5" floppies are a thing of the past. Some of my > DVD backups from just a few years ago are no longer readable either. > > But I can still read books printed 40, 50 even 90 years ago. (Pretty sure > my 1872 book on chemical technology is a reprint, so I won't count that :) > > Amen to that. I still have my old chemistry textbook that is still a pretty good reference, after more than forty years. I've lost books I've written on the computer (and, yeah, shame on me for not doing regular backups), but I've managed to hold on to the hard print books I've collected over the years (apart from the ones stored in a guy's barn when the roof blew off and the rain and snow turned them into blocks of paper). But, then, I'm just an English major who likes the look and feel of a real book in my hands. There's something solid and reliable about a book one can pick up and hold in one's hands. Dead trees? I would guess that, in aggregate, copiers today use much more paper for much less worthy purposes than do books. Hell, this is a group that goes bug nuts at the suggestion to enable rules to convert to fuel injection, or renewable fuels, but electronic books are preferable? Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 29 09:12:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 197E7424DB for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:12:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail175c2.megamailservers.com (mail175c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01CD424B8 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:12:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) by mail175c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r0TG7DFh016260; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:07:18 -0500 From: "john hasty" To: "'Bobby Whitehead'" , "'Jason Ostrowski'" References: <1359421112.83915.YahooMailRC@web182204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:07:11 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac39vIFiK/yHX9kQQQyoJChlCji5FQAfhPdw a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=b4TgfONAAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=Vf3f6l9jKjlYvt_MtvQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=kp3uRgNowesA:10 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=AEfNXJsUHx6KW5wO:21 a=JkYLvIX7DoZHs4lH:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: 'FoT Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hey Bobby....I heard yesterday that SVRA is putting on a ract at the Austin track with vintage and TransAm cars..... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. 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BW ________________________________ From: Jason Ostrowski To: triumph friends Sent: Sat, January 26, 2013 4:31:50 PM Subject: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR The 24 hour race at Daytona this weekend got me thinking. It seems that Sebring is usually mentioned as the endurance testing grounds for Triumphs (at least here in the U.S)... lots of action there with a few different TR models. I am aware of some attempts by the factory teams to complete the 24 hours of LeMans. (early years) Anyway, anyone have any insight as to who and what car might hold the (Triumph) record for most distance covered in a competition event? Sebring, Daytona, LeMans, Lemons? I know some of our own FoT guys did well in the late 50's at Sebring...I remember hearing of a guy driving a TR3 for over 11 hours in that event (There are some great photos of this group on our own FoT website) This is just for fun ....Remember, It gets really cold here in Chicago and I need an interesting FoT topic. Whats the longest you have driven a Triumph in competition? Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 29 09:58:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33CB424C9 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:58:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B4640548 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:52:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.99.26] (c-76-99-29-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [76.99.29.73]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MHE007J1BZLOR60@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:47:47 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-01-29_06:2013-01-29,2013-01-29,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1301290141 From: Scott Janzen Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:47:46 -0500 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Rod ends Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm tightening up the GT6 suspension, and shopping for rod ends. Historically I have just ordered from Pegasus, gotten the better quality alloy rod ends. This time I looked at the price and was a little stunned - $41 for a 7/16" male rod end. Problem is, I can't tell what Aurora model these are - are they AM, PRM, or something else. If AM, I can find these for $26 elsewhere. Anybody know, or have any recommendations for manufacturers, etc? These are for the trailing/locating rods for the lower inverted a-arm. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 29 14:07:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86888427A9 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:07:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SNCMAIL.surfnetusa.com (modusmail.surfnetusa.com [66.151.140.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14DAA424D4; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:06:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from TER2 (unverified [50.131.196.125]) by SNCMAIL.surfnetusa.com (Vircom SMTPRS 5.0.916.0) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:04:15 -0800 From: "Greg Solow" To: "Friends of Triumph" , Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:02:09 -0800 Subject: [Fot] flex hone. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I forgot to mention, it is important to obtain a final cross-hatch pattern of about 30 degrees from horizontal with both the up and down strokes. I get this by using a 1/2" drive electric drill.the rotates at a fairly low rpm. If you have a fixed speed drill, you canhit the trigger "on while pulling the drill up through the bore and off while pushing it down and get a rythm going to give the correct pattern. This has never failed to give a good ring seal and easy break in. Greg Solow ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Boruch" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 11:21 AM Subject: [CWE] Cometic Multi Layer Head Gaskets TR3-4 > This topic comes up every so often, but I don't think anything definitive > ever comes of it. > > I just called Cometic to see what can be done about a good multi-layer TR4 > head gasket for us racers. The current TR4 Cometic gasket is not a > multi-layer gasket, but rather it is a composite with rolled over fire > rings (still old technology and they can only can as a round fire ring). > They list this as for an 88 mm bore, but I don't think that it would work > with an 87 mm bore with the intake valve unshrouded. Others on FOT have > had them do a custom 89 mm bore gasket, but it was not unshrouded (may > work with an unshrouded 87 mm bore???). > > Cometic wants $3-4000 to tool up for a MLS gasket. I did not go any > further than that with them. I don't know if that means enough such > gaskets would need to be sold to cover the tooling cost??? > > I was wondering if there was enough demand out there for a multi-layer > gasket. If we could order 40 or 50 of them it may be worth them tooling > up for it. What say you? Joe(B) > ____________________________________________________________ > Woman is 53 But Looks 25 > Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/51082165c013021651600st04duc > > _______________________________________________ > Cwe mailing list > Cwe@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/cwe/gregmogdoc@surfnetusa.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 29 18:25:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D435E42850 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:25:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0B240532 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:18:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([unknown] [71.171.20.145]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MHE00JTSZE7WB11@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 19:13:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:13:20 -0500 From: "J.C. Hassall" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100722 Eudora/3.0.4 To: fot Subject: [Fot] sponsorship "ad" for Levy's book? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici, The comments about publishing a book (I vote for paper and would be glad to contribute) come at a serendipitous time. Burt Levy is about to publish his sequel to "The 200MPH Steamroller", and we thought it would be fitting to memorialize Jimmy and Lanky as we did for Uncle Jack. The artwork Joe and I collaborated on to memorialize them is finished and can be seen at http://www.flickr.com/photos/92513095@N03/8408581917/ (There's a nice tribute to Lanky in this month's Classic Motorsports, page 14, and Jimmy is noted in the great article about the TR250K on page 81.) So I'm looking for folks interested in contributing to a sponsorship "ad" in Levy's book, in addition to the 4 folks who have already signed on. Pls let me know by 11 FEB if you're interested. If we have critical mass, I'll press on with the effort and keep everyone in the loop. Tnx to Joan DeLap for taking the great photo of three "departing TR4s" and Joe's theme of "Departing Triumphs, Departed Friends". Dennis: I just noticed that I misspelled your name in the artwork. Damn, sorry. I'll fix it tomorrow. jim -- Jim Hassall Blacksburg VA '63 TR4 in autox preparation 99% finished, 90% to go _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 29 19:13:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E70C74285A for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 19:13:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm2-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm2-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.66]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7472C42806 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 19:09:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.200] by nm2.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2013 02:05:10 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.110] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2013 02:05:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2013 02:05:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 68621 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Jan 2013 02:05:09 -0000 s=s1024; t=1359511509; bh=B4sqJv9r2y7JNdBO/AlN4rTKhc1RolzcBlu4gj00MbE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=trYEXxpzERETBFEQfuNhvLEXmhtV8aQiIuZJDNo40KPtGOy0g7YJJOfoC+/5xN1rssbkzuIWw4xlM2BXBu8loR3IflqkLVxIRJ45BbtOFORl/hwNSe88V+3Sy+/EeWbqpzgYXGDHwzXuP3Z0LQ/QZMkMDY3/qKZ5nb9cmAT3zBE= I9_ZkPbRSlg5peSxRWFJifojBA6g9xfBUjoUMy8FSc5XX3SDm9HeXV8uueVg uh1DJ77LIyMFiMWvBDPV_TkkERAiYc4iZkEupTTHs0R3FrQ9ozR9DvR2jsU5 8PWORG0Jx8LREUVEk8xYbyLpBZx7p64TjiL15L2v89zGXdc97dNo.8vVBxse Lf_BPFLs_0ug6SM_e_BpqtkEWpCnNriJSFxDWZEu_xxh78dJ.Sa3jfPbs_P9 oLncJMQdYz6rnSrVuw_jTb5yBw7zQRh8COfgkABiuwpNvkTLUSoJ3s6vOl7s RXTEFdFgZUeedc__5cU4YsmTLhufMmFs_1QJti8ENrJZIkpHmP7TJy4dJhHQ U8S74hvjmDXqlReoJj1QcW2fX0teKM0w0F2MXvvWEnOoSbZzRSP6m_dkObiz j4ESS391t6OC.xlNS6T44COwnTWLvNhi3qq48fH8KE9GZU_8TBzhbmBXAWRY jQDAzMn47yNWS9wrMoObjwprv5TjixtDB7Y_R_40goNgrM_BDrtJysXrugUX E1xuMNzytxafZP2ryNTDYD12EusAYSkFo07SNVo3YZNRwUwdBNwF.qclnbiu pwKNFuvFe75kOVceiJ_0- Received: from [76.221.83.131] by web182205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:05:09 PST eWVhaCEgICBJIHdhbm5hIG1lZXQgeW91ciB3aWZlISAgIG1pbmUgd291bGQgaGF2ZSBzYWlkLCAiRG8gd2hhdD8gIiAgICAuLi4uLi4gICAKQm9iYnkKCgoKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCkZyb206IEpvZSBBbGV4YW5kZXIgPG4xOTd0cjRAY3MuY29tPgpUbzogYnVkc2NhcnNAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ7IHRyNHJhY2luZ0Bnb29nbGVtYWlsLmNvbTsgZm90QGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0ClNlbnQ6IFNhdCwgSmFudWFyeSAyNiwgMjAxMyA4OjIwOjM5IFBNClN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBbRm90XSABMAEBAQE- References: <51046118.9070607@gmail.com> <000b01cdfc1c$0def41c0$29cdc540$@com> <6EF43036C63C45049181EDE195E4DD6A@Bud> <8CFCA4B96BEAD0B-1FD4-2041B@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:05:09 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: Joe Alexander Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net yeah! I wanna meet your wife! mine would have said, "Do what? " ...... Bobby ________________________________ From: Joe Alexander To: budscars@comcast.net; tr4racing@googlemail.com; fot@autox.team.net Sent: Sat, January 26, 2013 8:20:39 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Bud, the first things that come to mind here: "WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM", or the basis for a great book. I traveled the entire USA in a Tr4 jam packed with stuff, and an Army footlocker on the luggage rack ..My wife and I lived in a tent the entire time..campground to campground..approx 5 months..Of course this was 1969! RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "MadMarx" To: Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR >I had driven a distance of about 351 km = 219mls in 3H. > > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im > Auftrag von Jason Ostrowski > Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. Januar 2013 00:20 > An: TeriAnn J. Wakeman > Cc: fot@autox.team.net > Betreff: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR > > Yes TeriAnn, > I would say that would count, but need distance traveled in how many # of > hours. > For all we know mad marx may have traveled the same distance in just over > 3 > hours (have you seen his in car videos?) Jason On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at > 5:04 > PM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > >> Does a time distance rally count? Don't forget that Steve Hedke did >> The Great Race 2003 in a TR3. >> >> TeriAnn >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: >> http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/fot/jason@** >> multivintage.com> vintage.com> > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 29 19:42:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B678442867 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 19:42:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8614281F for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 19:39:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.76]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tuZ31k0021eYJf8AC2asyr; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 02:34:52 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id u2aq1k00U2vctGa012arnU; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 02:34:51 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "Bobby Whitehead" , "Joe Alexander" References: <51046118.9070607@gmail.com><000b01cdfc1c$0def41c0$29cdc540$@com><6EF43036C63C45049181EDE195E4DD6A@Bud><8CFCA4B96BEAD0B-1FD4-2041B@webmail-m170.sysops.aol.com> <1359511509.67592.YahooMailRC@web182205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:34:50 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1359513292; bh=qd/Cr5PnOLuX/uhwsdefFr5V5aqbp5ZYWKy9X2ts5Dk=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QDXwDS4bVWT8O3BYBd3vjJou3+L4CnAsGJG61HSqBwQOY05qcD/Gzq2aVl9Bzqavx Th4O2YJ0GqRFZy+bIioE1AWQImFZAai29eJXvua6lK8S4yBwXEvWrd9gkHEJceExst 9WWJlWPERWdofAqXMtPXA52lc7HvUOnLBZEUOWkx5T7Xvz3TJ1A7idguz0j6dKiQIV wvbFL0XBrBuDyGdQNN3iEXcp5RDqjcv5ix59NstIAAp3PgOZEsGbdeOkdywDAhEH+6 rFka8b3N8zxgbsoFKQFvA1BZxBc/X+AgDemZq6X9hxA+dj/Fr2fxNyXOy8v+OS0fn9 QJzSYYJnTiBkA== Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've always had fun wives!(:-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobby Whitehead" To: "Joe Alexander" Cc: "FoT Triumph" Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR > yeah! I wanna meet your wife! mine would have said, "Do what? " > ...... > Bobby > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Joe Alexander > To: budscars@comcast.net; tr4racing@googlemail.com; fot@autox.team.net > Sent: Sat, January 26, 2013 8:20:39 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR > > Bud, the first things that come to mind here: "WITNESS PROTECTION > PROGRAM", > or the basis for a great book. > > I traveled the entire USA in a Tr4 jam packed with stuff, and an Army > footlocker on the luggage rack ..My wife and I lived in a tent the entire > time..campground to campground..approx 5 months..Of course this was 1969! > RB > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MadMarx" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:22 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR > > >>I had driven a distance of about 351 km = 219mls in 3H. >> >> >> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im >> Auftrag von Jason Ostrowski >> Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. Januar 2013 00:20 >> An: TeriAnn J. Wakeman >> Cc: fot@autox.team.net >> Betreff: Re: [Fot] 24 hours in a TR >> >> Yes TeriAnn, >> I would say that would count, but need distance traveled in how many # of >> hours. >> For all we know mad marx may have traveled the same distance in just over >> 3 >> hours (have you seen his in car videos?) Jason On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at >> 5:04 >> PM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: >> >>> Does a time distance rally count? Don't forget that Steve Hedke did >>> The Great Race 2003 in a TR3. >>> >>> TeriAnn >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: >>> http://www.team.net/donate.**html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/fot/jason@** >>> multivintage.com>> vintage.com> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 29 20:34:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 821E042851 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:34:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.105]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C344249A for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:34:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from new-host-2.home ([108.16.249.182]) by p3plsmtpa06-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id u3Vx1k0033wrvZ0013VxBN; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:29:57 -0700 From: Scott Janzen Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:29:55 -0500 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] GT6 Valve question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net well, the engine failed the leak-down test big time, with cylinders ranging from 2% to 46%. Sounds like bad exhaust valves for the worst offenders. I've been running stock valves - am thinking that now may be a good time to upgrade. Any recommendations? Mostly I'm just looking for better quality, not larger. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 29 22:31:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF7B4280E for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:31:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm28-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm28-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.188]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA0440539 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:29:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.53] by nm28.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2013 05:24:34 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.253] by tm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2013 05:24:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp116-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2013 05:24:34 -0000 s=s1024; t=1359523474; bh=Pj2Vdhd4P1nIw2FOxSbjNcHVgY6HSPq2ivwQ+5Uwfz8=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Subject:References:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=J7dCwZgVisLt0DUryxoWsWLUjTsIIcUuc6I5Mb9tImmyA67510Vu+pKQKX7ekLUXBjuNqRYOjSphUz9eZ1goqj2cr6pnZr939wQ0mdH9Od5BJAplrGy6U6uVTWRkAV+iRSmp0iPm1abVFzjjXb3meI9rIRMtpTP6mcy/DjalgwU= lJ.i.b.GURTkI2kMh5XjQJZ8AJNB.nslWgkQn6zpcnRar9kWTbhUckv6zcww 4f_qUGQKxBvwzbeC6GwJ5CTpMNZOZYKZLjdeUfpfK0a_MkRqCrxB4uaGZJQq M1w6PVYoYJiwaBmaIgOLHm5CedhlJYAbDXht27ubayEVLWv5EZU3NL9m2yeq 8OxIm_3qUxoxBZ5KKZQv1Gg0LlvBKNVMglMFn5gcSfXqdsQXvrXsa7bctJlg Vcp4VBs3Ao9mC9DRS20B0IMDzAklPXKg78xZQ.aZjTGLLNlqxHQvptUwFTdC p6I.NL7O7O7hot_.xFXvWkRKScqRUHXehCE1Zhp.SiZa98j5Yu5OOUad5_df g6WgnoI6Dv93QGX4qoB58OUT0PvJM.K.whNS51zK0Ix55AGeCcopbnDsgskB Ck_X69KJRzuppAyLNZNc- Received: from [192.168.2.2] (Tylerpthompson@67.190.144.189 with xymcookie) by smtp116-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2013 21:24:34 -0800 PST References: <057BD9EC-A865-494C-8F1E-3817BD08211F@esri.com> From: "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:24:34 -0700 To: Triumph Friends of Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Highest Elevation Raced in a Triumph Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > Folks- > I have read some mentions of Kas and Pikes Peak. Some of the local RMVR cars race up to the top of Pikes Peak (my neighbor races his Cuda up to the top every year and won first in class last year). What I haven't been able to tell is if a Triumph has made this climb, and wonder just how "high" Triumphs have raced around the world. > > At one point, I was thinking of setting up a second car for Pikes Peak. That second car is in the garage awaiting further instruction. I am now hearing that they are raising the entry fees to $1000s to keep the little guys out. > > It made me wonder who has raced up this mountain or at other high altitude events in a Triumph. Could be yet another story for the "book". I see the Peak every day and wonder. > > Thanks. > > Ty > > TR4 #413 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 30 15:08:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378D840EB9 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:08:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D2B40414 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:03:35 -0700 (MST) a=cII0OxXpZpTrMvjuLP8Tjg==:17 a=wLYNZHckZ8oA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=FglZspFJKnQA:10 a=pEyMPPPgv-mIfeAsoCYA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=Nvosa8QEVXqMOLnsjcMA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=cII0OxXpZpTrMvjuLP8Tjg==:117 Received: from [98.30.168.127] ([98.30.168.127:1752] helo=Bucktailus) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id E6/C1-06396-39799015; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 21:58:44 +0000 From: "Robert Johns" To: "FOT team" Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:59:02 -0500 Subject: [Fot] High Altitude racing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi guys, Tyler wonders who has raced a Triumph at high altitude? I will offer this submission. In the fall of 1956 I was racing what ever SCCA was running that I could reach. A hill climb came up to be run at Los Alamos. I went up on Saturday from Roswell, where I was stationed, and spent the afternoon tuning for the altitude. Come Sunday morning, I lined up and went off. I came back down after the run to line up again, for another try. The starter came over and said, Your time is some much better than others, why take another run, wait and see what the later times are. It ended up that I was second fastest run of the day. The only car faster was a 120 or 140 Jaguar from Los Alamos. There was a C3 or C4 Cunningham there, but he was way too rich. From memory,( that is a long time ago) Los Alamos is 10,00 feet and tuning for that altitude made the big difference. Robert Johns _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 30 17:04:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90D040E38 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:04:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964314284A for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:04:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id uJDR1k00417UAYkACPzM0q; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 23:59:21 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.16] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id uPyJ1k00u4L5TyG8ZPyKQ7; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 23:58:20 +0000 From: Bud R To: Robert Johns Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:58:18 -0700 References: <51414C75B7EA404D89008946D3A48D9B@Bucktailus> s=q20121106; t=1359590361; bh=rJmquUmnY6RPUmZoTjS9smhg7crm8K4Ltl6qtIuC5KI=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=CkRk2D6pJfL3nrX4iX+oHD0Kymq/OGplED34n+aefS45ipDTQh6www2WSszLEBaZo CWL8Q95o3kMxCQfi37k6Vt2QMIQYUwG1K2S04aFohVBf+mLZ9oceU8UnkqsA+eZIL8 ulmDyJEduqABCflnu/YXLibX/lEGq72WzdWaSGBXwks/t5asFX4Av305c3SdJBempF /aZymi7e/LCK7gxoet2ZFjtM1QjqSqgyFfzWVPwdh5Yq0l8n0ShGRBs+uTTneCpqoA PIkNiLt++/s7Wf4jeBp0hUI6Amt6lkapDYEnjBI7opcDToqr4ydqjWvohY4WzAAf6G HhcKtBwwtyPGg== Cc: FOT team Subject: Re: [Fot] High Altitude racing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In theory if you're running a constant depression carb like a ZS then altitude should not make a difference since the less dense air should pull less fuel. In practice many cars that have come from lower altitudes have found they run too rich at Colorado altitudes (5280 ft.) and above. Usually leaning the mixture helps. If you run Weber carbs or something similar then you have to do correct jets and venturies to get it right. Yes it makes a big difference since we have about 5psi less air pressure (inches of mercury) than at sea level. So a supercharger (with 5 psi of boost) in Denver would just about make up for how my TR6 ran at Galveston TX, or Jekyll Island where I was in heaven with the kick in the pants the accelerator gave me at those sea level venues. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Jan 30, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Robert Johns wrote: > but he was way too rich. From memory,( > that is a long time ago) Los Alamos is 10,00 feet and tuning for that > altitude made the big difference. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 31 08:53:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C9642919 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:53:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s13.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s13.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.88]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2C7424C0 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:52:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU168-W67 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s13.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 31 Jan 2013 07:47:37 -0800 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:47:37 -0500 FILETIME=[4B5FAB10:01CDFFCA] Subject: [Fot] Cometic Gaskets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net There has been some discussion off line about using a cometic 91mm composite gasket on a TR4. Can it be done? what mods required etc. I believe there are some list members that have been down that path. I am tossing this out there for your expertise. I have purchased one but have not installed it yet so I don't want to give bad info. What say ye? Thanks, Marty _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 31 09:25:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9889A42926 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:25:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bosmailout01.eigbox.net (bosmailout01.eigbox.net [66.96.185.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C57B40433 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:25:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from bosmailscan09.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.9]) by bosmailout01.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1U0wsI-0003Sp-Ox for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 11:20:30 -0500 Received: from bosmailscan25.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.25]) by bosmailscan09.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1U0wsI-0006Kl-KY for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 11:20:30 -0500 Received: from bosimpout04.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.4]) by bosmailscan25.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1U0wsH-0007gY-Sn for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 11:20:29 -0500 Received: from bosauthsmtp19.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.19]) by bosimpout04.eigbox.net with NO UCE id ugLW1k0080QhFXN01gLW3d; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 11:20:30 -0500 a=yitrkAOJgrFboMmtCT2GMA==:17 a=3-MZCWuAnnEA:10 a=3Puyiv2KatsA:10 a=j4byghG4AAAA:8 a=wulAphm7MK5kXLE2hnwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MeHg-9Nrh8IA:10 a=Gukknsb84GsA:10 a=0ngOb9Q-L6M6eanWMd8A:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=OymQtqdPezZ6hDqU:21 a=JteVs9wuOr9WG5Nm:21 a=N5us-gIF6iCl2H-R:21 a=9UqFsMnAB6EOkiq4MrOclQ==:117 Received: from ppp-70-253-66-109.dsl.austtx.swbell.net ([70.253.66.109] helo=zap6) by bosauthsmtp19.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1U0wsI-0001sE-0f for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 11:20:30 -0500 From: "Robert MacKenzie" To: Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:20:06 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac3/ztSf4cGegUK5TdCnSgLY0hAwGw== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] WTB: Cheap TR6 wheels Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Posting for a friend: He is looking for a cheap set of straight, usable steel tr6 wheels? Do not want or need trim rings nor center caps, just the rims for autocross use. He will also consider ugly alloys.. In Texas. If you can help contact Dave dave@beanitos.com Thanks! _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 31 12:50:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11B942973 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:50:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.234]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30694294A for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:49:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from munsonbPC ([74.198.151.53]) by p3plsmtpa09-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id ujl01k00319NgsS01jl0Wq; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:45:01 -0700 From: "Barry Munson" To: Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:45:00 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac3/63UCSrUUvCEwTQWoSmnnbuqZNQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] Crankcase Venting Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici - FYI - Because I am at this stage in the TR3's preparation and the significant amount of discussion (based on the content contained in the archives), I would like to pass on some information that I have found to be very useful in trying to completely understand and then apply solutions to this issue. The article is entitled "The CVV Bible - Why a Functional Crankcase Ventilation System Matters to You and Your High Performance Engine" and was written by Mikah Barnett. The link is: http://www.shophemi.com/images/media/p-2273-arrington_ccv_bible.pdf Barry. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 31 15:38:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B271142960 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:38:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f42.google.com (mail-pb0-f42.google.com [209.85.160.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3088A40515 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:38:32 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pb0-f42.google.com with SMTP id wz17so1835965pbc.1 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:33:37 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=9UKW2NwD1V83BxWvI6rJJTII0908BxlM77PzTgfM4Ok=; b=eMUF27yGgQcA50BT6IHQepeaywvsxBzzjgtNjVHB07eOfGk+UPI4lx7T2PeZKnVcX0 Rdlg2OgRLE3sqNMSE8n0R4Im01nCDELQNjQ12M6Z5SAC5/jcPL9UUD7EpDZzof07kGYs XjOA5tyio3B+JA3qMIFaxxz3JNhUPIRTTLePSikBbC503k63AqW1ryaUMLpm+VLxDPMA t0UVE6ZnMBqBPzzao56IyUCQFHa28LjoNRixDZc2VKyexcilGTY3YGRT9pcvOM4RIRuv gugQVKSPD6ppHoAcD5fJptDqim0u5Mxp+fUkTnxCIx9JmHNWr9uBDX2Ca27SsL/sbSPE 8Azw== uo8mr26441298pbc.29.1359671617049; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:33:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.147.37 with HTTP; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:33:36 -0800 (PST) References: <000901cdffeb$770c1390$65243ab0$@ca> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:33:36 -0800 From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" To: Barry Munson Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Crankcase Venting Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for sharing A question: For a TR-6 [and probly all the fours], what is the "Makeup air line" -- that is, how does fresh air get into one of our crankcases? On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Barry Munson wrote: > Amici - FYI - Because I am at this stage in the TR3's preparation and the > significant amount of discussion (based on the content contained in the > archives), I would like to pass on some information that I have found to be > very useful in trying to completely understand and then apply solutions to > this issue. The article is entitled "The CVV Bible - Why a Functional > Crankcase Ventilation System Matters to You and Your High Performance > Engine" and was written by Mikah Barnett. The link is: > http://www.shophemi.com/images/media/p-2273-arrington_ccv_bible.pdf > > Barry. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 31 15:52:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEF44298A for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:52:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2E942940 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:48:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.89]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id uei11k0061vN32cA3mjxSs; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:43:57 +0000 Received: from sz0004.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id umhw1k00w2xZMJ48imhwwW; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:41:56 +0000 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:41:56 +0000 (UTC) From: toodamnfunky@comcast.net To: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) s=q20121106; t=1359672237; bh=+lE8CcVMNA0+KNNMpquPyt/pgo6XZQS1WFLDqNo8huM=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=UKD7VDX9qMAgyJkwmvaMX0ptcYqDKqzEF7SwVqDSsTTufROqBWEoppxGm7nnPcWrE z4UVzDd/jo7H/kjt7apTx2HI6DgLDiWSe9LnXhf9UZm+NFkoP69+o+rnNUYPd7h+wT 3M38VlroDWcR8nuEmS0W9NxHAx99HMQOnDseM1/wzkwO/XffJPtRYeTkFI2b+GorQq QBeGZspXxZnnDLzRNw4kSMkiQZPmlKbfqN4oaJ5LUT85KK9jlPednLx7/tKJFX5Dmq BPcVwfQ72Ukywi2PB+NBUKMR8FrPZQWOHXxTdRiNvflmQawDPUlCDNzi+E3MpDplcx x+bVQiMAeWLyA== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Crankcase Venting Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I already use myB exhaust as a vacuum source plumbed through the seperator/catch tank and currently in the process of sealing the system starting with a threaded cap on my valve cover and minor mods to seal my dipstick so I can maximize the scavenging effect of the exhaust. I have no plans to allow fresh air in if I can help it. jim g ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" To: "Barry Munson" Cc: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 3:33:36 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Crankcase Venting Thanks for sharing A question: For a TR-6 [and probly all the fours], what is the "Makeup air line" -- that is, how does fresh air get into one of our crankcases? On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Barry Munson wrote: > Amici - FYI - Because I am at this stage in the TR3's preparation and the > significant amount of discussion (based on the content contained in the > archives), I would like to pass on some information that I have found to be > very useful in trying to completely understand and then apply solutions to > this issue. The article is entitled "The CVV Bible - Why a Functional > Crankcase Ventilation System Matters to You and Your High Performance > Engine" and was written by Mikah Barnett. The link is: > http://www.shophemi.com/images/media/p-2273-arrington_ccv_bible.pdf > > Barry. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 31 16:08:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE5C42960 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:08:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f50.google.com (mail-ee0-f50.google.com [74.125.83.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 197D442957 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:08:32 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ee0-f50.google.com with SMTP id e51so1827051eek.9 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:03:36 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=PC+jjaD02UVZw3k6nSH4erjs51bNXEAr35hrmz2A8xY=; b=zK4syKvLDkf9qVFUWh5pSSjhzeTZhUH5hgmSe5Wts8Wz+LhhFWOQjnTSSxF/rGQy+O 2s3qbKL2vZ3FY3C2PaQXYWvkPCH6jb0x3TGWkp2Cd3NDDlHMOK6h/FzC/DJTpkS0iwEN ThwRnuo64eu2b8Gf8aDXVPR5lREbSgZMKPiP9HCNGjjdSHTu1T6lbTWZRPqInW9UbLYI 1NGebr7yCYkamqDHRgIjEDDEM2dSGnYPPJrQ9Oc0cCC0lWvx4C2oSud6TNN+6aCxoB/A TzByTvLMlvKNmN+tpBSFy6Da9SX7v479prwSstTExjpWeoU7tb36oYCzUfZAUm8hFtMX Yshg== Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:03:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home ([2.174.14.69]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b2sm9718591eep.9.2013.01.31.15.03.34 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:03:35 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <000901cdffeb$770c1390$65243ab0$@ca> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 00:03:33 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac3/63UCSrUUvCEwTQWoSmnnbuqZNQAG0NWA Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Crankcase Venting Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I destroyed 3 valves in short time. Then I made my own valve design which seem to last. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-PuuLY_iCrug/UESoEDxFTnI/AAAAAAAABZo/xFLZr p-IiCg/s983/Saarbr%C3%BCcken-20120828-00175.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fEQ_hpneNe0/UESoNk8sIEI/AAAAAAAABZw/xlwAk ULsBvQ/s983/Kleinblittersdorf-20120828-00176.jpg Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Barry Munson Gesendet: Donnerstag, 31. Januar 2013 20:45 An: fot@autox.team.net Betreff: [Fot] Crankcase Venting Amici - FYI - Because I am at this stage in the TR3's preparation and the significant amount of discussion (based on the content contained in the archives), I would like to pass on some information that I have found to be very useful in trying to completely understand and then apply solutions to this issue. The article is entitled "The CVV Bible - Why a Functional Crankcase Ventilation System Matters to You and Your High Performance Engine" and was written by Mikah Barnett. The link is: http://www.shophemi.com/images/media/p-2273-arrington_ccv_bible.pdf Barry. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 31 19:14:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7772342456 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:14:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E234052C for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:14:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([unknown] [71.171.20.145]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MHI00I8VRC3P205@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 20:09:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:09:40 -0500 From: "J.C. Hassall" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100722 Eudora/3.0.4 To: marty sukey References: Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Cometic Gaskets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 1/31/2013 10:47 AM, marty sukey wrote: > There has been some discussion off line about using a cometic 91mm composite > gasket on a TR4. Can it be done? what mods required etc. I believe there are > some list members that have been down that path. I am tossing this out there > for your expertise. I have purchased one but have not installed it yet so I > don't want to give bad info. What say ye? > > Thanks, > Marty > ________ > Marty, I have one and will never use anything else. jim -- Jim Hassall Blacksburg VA '63 TR4 in autox preparation 99% finished, 90% to go _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 31 20:05:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF3E740522 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 20:05:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com (outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com [64.136.47.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A36E64040F for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 20:05:27 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1359687629; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=k27XliNAFQWKxZ/EADmKrkX4DgmlRwnqf6+f3LUJ5mJCSh4gSgnv152ebDLDLJf1+ NgQ7ZNGY6hoDWdZH5V/0uTkKgr6160kRc3cWs6IDq1w9ecHCE+HLy/Ni0zR6qyXXL2 YHdv1Bo5d2iT2Mf+fciYQNh30SbXgmb/rBZO6G9w= Received: from outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com (webmail10.dca.untd.com [10.171.12.150]) by smtpout02.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABJSYM8JAT25ADA for (sender ); Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:00:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [76.23.185.62] by webmail10.dca.untd.com with HTTP: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 02:59:31 GMT From: "Joe Boruch" Full-Name: "Joe Boruch" Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 02:59:31 GMT To: barry@penybryn.ca Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Crankcase Venting Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net My Honda S2000 has the dual catch can system with a PVC valve. After reading this i may try removing the PVC valve. My TR3 has a dry sump and thus has lots of crankcase ventilation, though I have not checked how much vacuum it pulls. I should data log it sometime. I think the vacuum break is set at 10 inches of vacuum, which is the lowest setting. Figured with too much vacuum it would just suck more in through everywhere else. Tractor engines have a lot of places for leaks. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Barry Munson" To: Subject: [Fot] Crankcase Venting Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:45:00 -0700 Amici - FYI - Because I am at this stage in the TR3's preparation and the significant amount of discussion (based on the content contained in the archives), I would like to pass on some information that I have found to be very useful in trying to completely understand and then apply solutions to this issue. The article is entitled "The CVV Bible - Why a Functional Crankcase Ventilation System Matters to You and Your High Performance Engine" and was written by Mikah Barnett. The link is: http://www.shophemi.com/images/media/p-2273-arrington_ccv_bible.pdf Barry. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 31 22:02:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40AF440E20 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:02:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B3524052C for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:00:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7FA0E1C000086; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:55:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dpe005a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dpe005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.211.145]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0CCD7E000085; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:55:43 -0500 (EST) From: LimeyV8@aol.com Full-name: LimeyV8 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:55:42 -0500 (EST) To: list@mackenzie.aero, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1359694543; bh=nwAVv7uw3thJNKZ2fk2u4WzuUaCsTe3o77Ku0rKdGag=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mUD+6qBMqNqI8AadpDRyNJO/Mb3gz41Rm1e3mtZ+rnQfUv03H1cAFWQgpHFNvuZSl 5T19z8K4m2PLlbSrXqHaCWYw8zxhz6CKdPEe+YuU4fYx6CYJXJmAFaSuEoSQ0ld9jm qr6AA9DKaNkVVuTEEtSswrOJyFIPFqODZe3Qrx8k= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d510b4acf29f5 Subject: Re: [Fot] WTB: Cheap TR6 wheels Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 1/31/2013 11:21:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, list@mackenzie.aero writes: just the rims for autocross use. hmmm....I wouldn't do that with original TR6 steel wheels - particularly if he is going to use R-compound tires - he will eventually tear the centers out of the wheels - but that will probably be somewhat less ...ah...dramatic...or exciting in an autocross than it is in a road race. Cheers, Jack Mc _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive