From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 1 00:36:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC494406AF for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 00:36:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f41.google.com (mail-ee0-f41.google.com [74.125.83.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F0540523 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 00:36:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ee0-f41.google.com with SMTP id c13so1939990eek.0 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:31:41 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=0I1w3ZHsHlNFEemMtl0KT7aEOCyCi39H0fyvayjuiv4=; b=ZXFSUwcjA9tVwtamWjDSEoRel9Nz/GBbQ/SL018zdnfS+4YFk/1lu8IBNGJJifa5Xh zV6EowIN82iDMuKbZCxKaW+zovmKXbARIPKTfa55lJVWAY6UHI48cbUxDVqdcFhLK9Rs 8Q2SDZs9TPFFzHA2HRB9fveoHmLkEBgyMIAkPPh6bY1gZZ9L+ZZTUIUIcTaDFNVmle8k shV49WWsmecXYM3y+SceU9n1GWc6emONnYSPhffnlg/gjxbh37nvOyhTfJsdAYJjOgCi VFeRhUql8AuNiJZnfk0voCbSiU7mpcOVZMQtcMd3jRZhuKt2aycwguOOnK3csTs2QOW8 Qslw== z5mr36663229eep.15.1359703900973; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:31:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home ([2.174.157.138]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 44sm11128640eek.5.2013.01.31.23.31.38 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:31:39 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <20130131.215931.14431.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 08:31:37 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac4AKE68E/EmFK7dTS+Jpeg4YPs2awAJJHfA Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Crankcase Venting - testing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net How to test a PVC valve? After I had these several failures I've checked the valve before each run: - I pull the hose from the valve cover - blow by mouth into the hose (to operate the valve) - and suck back On sucking the valve has to block, totally block the sucking back. If there is gentle blow by the valve is gone. My HD valve construction can be easy made by people who has a lathe. The dimensions aren't important. You can take the normal PVC valve as pattern. The spring is the important part. I used a snippet of a SU carb spring for valve operating. Installed: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tEf8uoPfIBo/UJJmlQug4SI/AAAAAAAABhI/GcSEH 3d4wnU/s983/20121101_130726.jpg Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 1 01:42:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F90140E2A for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 01:42:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6EF140454 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 01:42:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r118b9qA000529; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 03:37:09 -0500 Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 03:37:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: LimeyV8@aol.com References: <13695.2717eeee.3e3ca4ce@aol.com> Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] WTB: Cheap TR6 wheels Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 LimeyV8@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/31/2013 11:21:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > list@mackenzie.aero writes: > > just the rims for autocross > use. > > > hmmm....I wouldn't do that with original TR6 steel wheels - particularly > if he is going to use R-compound tires - he will eventually tear the centers > out of the wheels - but that will probably be somewhat less > ...ah...dramatic...or exciting in an autocross than it is in a road race. Plus you can get brand new steel rims from Diamond wheels for pretty cheap money. Or, as a lot of folks seem to be doing, going with VTO Performance rims or some of the other lower-cost aluminum rims out there. > Cheers, > Jack Mc regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 1 03:00:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067B640EA5 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 03:00:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B0D340452 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 03:00:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id D840338000094; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 04:55:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.9]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4330EE000081; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 04:55:10 -0500 (EST) References: <20130131.215931.14431.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com> <000901ce004e$2d566990$88033cb0$@com> To: tr4racing@googlemail.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m084.sysops.aol.com (64.12.108.102) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 01 Feb 2013 04:55:09 -0500 Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 04:55:10 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1359712510; bh=/LsqIvfX+W1KgmXmILqOnR5X7PMyEgycpXzOgBRqhJQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XfUpSlOlMczifum89W24YMGUAv3O5jOi5EVjFFQYo0qLiTcsROhC5zlVzk3csDGv/ LCbg+HG0hJbQki4PcRoF295ro/ffxFL0ERcLK/YJfjfk2Mre2ylGSE0/GmuVl9mbAq QOASEAcn2+PuCUJF4Y993scU/IGkbObFsO+M658M= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c510b90fe63cb Subject: Re: [Fot] Crankcase Venting - testing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net OEM REPLACEMENT PVC VALVE is much better than aftermarket like MOROSO branded valve. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- a PVC valve?After I had these several failures I've checked the valve before each run:- I pull the hose from the valve cover- blow by mouth into the hose (to operate the valve)- and suck backOn sucking the valve has to block, totally block the sucking back. If thereis gentle blow by the valve is gone.My HD valve construction can be easy made by people who has a lathe. Thedimensions aren't important.You can take the normal PVC valve as pattern.The spring is the important part. I used a snippet of a SU carb spring forvalve operating.Installed:https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tEf8uoPfIBo/UJJmlQug4S I/AAAAAAAABhI/GcSEH3d4wnU/s983/20121101_130726.jpgCheersChris________________ _______________________________fot@autox.team.nethttp://www.fot-racing.comDon ate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://www.team.net/forumsUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 1 05:45:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F3842D03 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 05:45:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C8AD42AB1 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 05:31:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.196]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 872A61C000046; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 07:26:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.238.19.173] (mobile-198-228-224-228.mycingular.net [198.228.224.228]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id C5D84E000086; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 07:26:43 -0500 (EST) References: <20130131.215931.14431.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com> <000901ce004e$2d566990$88033cb0$@com> From: Christopher Bock Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 07:26:38 -0500 To: MadMarx x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1359721609; bh=wh1EVcIkxL5gA3kUHJCj5CRrt6RPtFoUHaIVahQqS6Q=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=ixpHdsY3veoXrwYgn4bIHiVq+uEPJ8/EFlCijqu3vPDpbNIdGUow7iHBOHS/B0fSB mqHh20sS52+qCQHsEKtE29Eo6E+pNcCMsONL+wNsMsrg3kkx2oMtcR8sKAKFV9DKVs GAHJ6AybVgn7Hn+G9q5zsJb1Nid1xHjb5zAuvqOo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c4510bb4836fd6 Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Crankcase Venting - testing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Are we talking about PVC or PCV? Chris On Feb 1, 2013, at 2:31 AM, "MadMarx" wrote: > How to test a PVC valve? > > After I had these several failures I've checked the valve before each run: > > - I pull the hose from the valve cover > - blow by mouth into the hose (to operate the valve) > - and suck back > > On sucking the valve has to block, totally block the sucking back. If there > is gentle blow by the valve is gone. > > My HD valve construction can be easy made by people who has a lathe. The > dimensions aren't important. > You can take the normal PVC valve as pattern. > > The spring is the important part. I used a snippet of a SU carb spring for > valve operating. > > Installed: > https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tEf8uoPfIBo/UJJmlQug4SI/AAAAAAAABhI/GcSEH > 3d4wnU/s983/20121101_130726.jpg > > > > Cheers > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 1 05:45:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1451042D66 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 05:45:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f182.google.com (mail-ea0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B75342B77 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 05:35:45 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ea0-f182.google.com with SMTP id a12so1703627eaa.27 for ; Fri, 01 Feb 2013 04:30:46 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=9wmebQbETipyTxIhj9t8SbNYxT4YNASIXCZXGO/EEb8=; b=WoBtcAkIquDhAdwRWK/9svjQs5+iNUw7351KbqA/kiy0tmrcR/YrkMeA+wQfGnMT0s b1g83ojv++7JlPZwor367tNBssJ66x5xxxqQTvqEzFA3Nq2mJTCVujOIeI4/31oq3xfg gy2uVPwuxfp9qCrpQCQVb3eG+4chNy31vSAhddZNwSQabQ4RDOE7FCd2MriXrIwQ/p3G WOXVqLC/w1ZmhISXGDXdfivdPmQsKw7Vu4whlxH6NNcYTjLNp5gsisq/Zo+9/sQ8hzsC uucNaQGCMxZNdQDjSjypY9EO1vokVBjBOu0cC8AuJmdGTQDKhiKIAyX8m6l8vzgQEQkZ d0wA== w49mr39053806eel.17.1359721846488; Fri, 01 Feb 2013 04:30:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home ([2.171.103.100]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q5sm12311775eep.11.2013.02.01.04.30.44 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 01 Feb 2013 04:30:45 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Christopher Bock'" References: <20130131.215931.14431.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com> <000901ce004e$2d566990$88033cb0$@com> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 13:30:43 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac4Ad2jRwdSbRqvrQFSu6Idj8H4W8wAAFIhw Content-Language: de Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Crankcase Venting - testing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've just taken over the phrase. I'm talking about a valve which use the exhaust system to vent the crankcase. No idea if it is called PVC or PCV? Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Christopher Bock [mailto:SeaCubeCo@aol.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 1. Februar 2013 13:27 An: MadMarx Cc: Betreff: Re: [Fot] Crankcase Venting - testing Are we talking about PVC or PCV? Chris On Feb 1, 2013, at 2:31 AM, "MadMarx" wrote: > How to test a PVC valve? > > After I had these several failures I've checked the valve before each run: > > - I pull the hose from the valve cover > - blow by mouth into the hose (to operate the valve) > - and suck back > > On sucking the valve has to block, totally block the sucking back. If > there is gentle blow by the valve is gone. > > My HD valve construction can be easy made by people who has a lathe. > The dimensions aren't important. > You can take the normal PVC valve as pattern. > > The spring is the important part. I used a snippet of a SU carb spring > for valve operating. > > Installed: > https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tEf8uoPfIBo/UJJmlQug4SI/AAAAAAAABhI > /GcSEH > 3d4wnU/s983/20121101_130726.jpg > > > > Cheers > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 1 05:52:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B29F42D78 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 05:52:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from tr.ccfot.com (wsip-98-174-80-205.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C18042D04 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 05:52:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518F5A4C091 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 07:47:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from tr.ccfot.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tr.ccfot.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 87jzbCOg9Xku for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 07:47:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from HENRYPRECISION (wsip-98-174-80-202.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.202]) (Authenticated sender: yellow04@tr4racer.com) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D6389A4C087 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 07:47:51 -0500 (EST) From: To: References: <000901cdffeb$770c1390$65243ab0$@ca> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 07:47:52 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Crankcase Venting Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Interesting read, thanks for sharing. Great info for the hot rod street car crowd. Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Munson" Subject: [Fot] Crankcase Venting > http://www.shophemi.com/images/media/p-2273-arrington_ccv_bible.pdf _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 1 06:23:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A10CB42B2A for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 06:23:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58DF042A92 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 06:22:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.131]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 560041C0000AA; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 08:17:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.238.19.173] (mobile-198-228-224-228.mycingular.net [198.228.224.228]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 039B6E00014C; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 08:17:50 -0500 (EST) References: <20130131.215931.14431.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com> <000901ce004e$2d566990$88033cb0$@com> <000901ce0077$f5934260$e0b9c720$@com> From: Christopher Bock Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 08:17:45 -0500 To: MadMarx x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1359724676; bh=qgpnnDcEjvhbVbzZuS8c5gRCFybvEiz9cm5hy9/HQi0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=SoUMWsutri+Af6F5f1zPqq/fuZIG+aotycfW79gKSBWlpjOSG4nELjlmjOH7terzJ jRwpp8viZz3drhEtdVEqKPayuZf2dDEGiAvYGsKUdz5O2FRAneQRAXpz9ZMJBW8JIg jz0EzskOriJ9vl/rLqzmJL7i/rCcP6jj5MjzkAus= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d3383510bc07d5d11 Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Crankcase Venting - testing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Just joking. PVC. Poly vinyl chloride. White plastic tubing PCV. Particle control valve. Just having fun with. It is a great read Chris On Feb 1, 2013, at 7:30 AM, "MadMarx" wrote: > I've just taken over the phrase. > > I'm talking about a valve which use the exhaust system to vent the > crankcase. > > No idea if it is called PVC or PCV? > > Cheers > Chris > > -----UrsprC Von: Christopher Bock [mailto:SeaCubeCo@aol.com] > Gesendet: Freitag, 1. Februar 2013 13:27 > An: MadMarx > Cc: > Betreff: Re: [Fot] Crankcase Venting - testing > > Are we talking about PVC or PCV? > > Chris > > On Feb 1, 2013, at 2:31 AM, "MadMarx" wrote: > >> How to test a PVC valve? >> >> After I had these several failures I've checked the valve before each run: >> >> - I pull the hose from the valve cover >> - blow by mouth into the hose (to operate the valve) >> - and suck back >> >> On sucking the valve has to block, totally block the sucking back. If >> there is gentle blow by the valve is gone. >> >> My HD valve construction can be easy made by people who has a lathe. >> The dimensions aren't important. >> You can take the normal PVC valve as pattern. >> >> The spring is the important part. I used a snippet of a SU carb spring >> for valve operating. >> >> Installed: >> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tEf8uoPfIBo/UJJmlQug4SI/AAAAAAAABhI >> /GcSEH >> 3d4wnU/s983/20121101_130726.jpg >> >> >> >> Cheers >> Chris >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 1 06:54:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2EF542AF1 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 06:54:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm25-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm25-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.191]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E159442978 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 06:54:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.196] by nm25.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Feb 2013 13:49:26 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.123] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Feb 2013 13:49:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1028.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Feb 2013 13:49:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 10546 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Feb 2013 13:49:26 -0000 s=s1024; t=1359726566; bh=qvb8QC3kDt3WFujuflOsyqIZxdwgZqB2pVJEtHLmvvw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SGhlxha7GpjUa+fZ2xR/81+BrrsK7zwdRqkeaGKNh7pMJ6Uxte3BBFGw3cKiiRjs1/RzuUTV6l0hHED30Ad4SIJH+yPOm6Pubd+WpNbFsjT1v/gnd6rk7ocjf67l/w7R9id423FTCoDTHPjgZblqdpnXP+fqYcvmFcZfDfrChqY= s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PVXrqLNs9U42bWVQ4PUNIlnmCkbcNlmOm4Ewdc9AAApeHhVQnMvOSeLJofXOfFzObmF4RaUn5LzrO58JoIfLcBhAhfsUdCvRYXmH0/k0OlXBYYkFL3KEn1unJAxHUgUliXcuUjC6LoId4yKg6eaC4vNksFcYo2Xp7VfFlFcPrSg=; 9Ro16kHa_TA5.GQi9FKsh13fxOyOm8zBD6kjUia9D5losQT46TiBp1n68El4 C1n3kRPXWANY35tTJ6BEJ_Q7rblhh8Jn4NEq1yI.cibQSSNtjnm_srOVTvFR r.QFyK_0jxm6s6xIn40hOoP5oj6CZNz8FnkhglxefYk8X6E2yaHBH6cMVJCP tih43Q_BR32H58mUxFAHiEQzWNfuVwZgPf8ntJcqfBCtAKk1yrfqG2.OWDwZ l5Z5Xy2AphPS9XUPHYaYmqq1QDAYinaidruwWyMLqOOrIbD1I.Rq9ZgN2b2L NRJGJeXV0dOcQAZnBnmUApZoTmDbifw7Gs0Bh6fnIilIswFe3bjD1DNkDa74 nGuR45bvWertwg.dJMmGT7mWEB8kBQNICPcJD82.wteeCI.4hRfA4UEOfT8v .V8sxWC3Xsn6x68FriUMbFOzg40JtxHKOOUj9agEWnkY30haqDvZ0Lsjamgx tmkCHVzENwyfZdO2zxDYxMUB6mCTRMWw21UJiDofLVLR6ciYJ6DvbzpmtUXn cUZ7phbdfAel2NQ9wWVOjyNrGaL3aM4pNBBvN5viMr6S56teeZ83fvL6OXly Vg8WdCQVEThbt1jCPqRpdGRUvmhWGuJap8nLvbl7ZawI7QunnMUKatSJhCau NripJoHgix8mOOpjH3qrJ5QmWrvIm9Av9XwYDHW_AYoG43cMf0iUp1upUbDE yLakiYlDdalez0VWxOdPUMo0aibBCcR0H48id3geBrsDeUevcchvKlZmisZ. YFeWI1joAHH2H8nfAbtezeevz_cFhHOMJfUApvrc3OlX3I9rUEC7B8lvqXSH n Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web181406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 01 Feb 2013 05:49:26 PST Q2hyaXM6IEkgZG8gYmVsaWV2ZSB5b3UgbWVhbjoNClBDVjogUG9zaXRpdmUgQ3JhbmtjYXNlIFZlbnRpbGF0aW9uDQoNCi0tLSBPbiBGcmksIDIvMS8xMywgQ2hyaXN0b3BoZXIgQm9jayA8U2VhQ3ViZUNvQGFvbC5jb20.IHdyb3RlOg0KDQoNCkZyb206IENocmlzdG9waGVyIEJvY2sgPFNlYUN1YmVDb0Bhb2wuY29tPg0KU3ViamVjdDogUmU6IFtGb3RdIENyYW5rY2FzZSBWZW50aW5nIC0gdGVzdGluZw0KVG86ICJNYWRNYXJ4IiA8dHI0cmFjaW5nQGdvb2dsZW1haWwuY29tPg0KQ2M6ICI8Zm90QGF1dG94LnQBMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 05:49:26 -0800 (PST) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: MadMarx , Christopher Bock Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Crankcase Venting - testing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Chris: I do believe you mean: PCV: Positive Crankcase Ventilation --- On Fri, 2/1/13, Christopher Bock wrote: From: Christopher Bock Subject: Re: [Fot] Crankcase Venting - testing To: "MadMarx" Cc: "" Date: Friday, February 1, 2013, 7:17 AM Just joking. PVC. Poly vinyl chloride. White plastic tubing PCV. Particle control valve. Just having fun with. It is a great read Chris On Feb 1, 2013, at 7:30 AM, "MadMarx" wrote: > I've just taken over the phrase. > > I'm talking about a valve which use the exhaust system to vent the > crankcase. > > No idea if it is called PVC or PCV? > > Cheers > Chris > > -----UrsprC Von: Christopher Bock [mailto:SeaCubeCo@aol.com] > Gesendet: Freitag, 1. Februar 2013 13:27 > An: MadMarx > Cc: > Betreff: Re: [Fot] Crankcase Venting - testing > > Are we talking about PVC or PCV? > > Chris > > On Feb 1, 2013, at 2:31 AM, "MadMarx" wrote: > >> How to test a PVC valve? >> >> After I had these several failures I've checked the valve before each run: >> >> - I pull the hose from the valve cover >> - blow by mouth into the hose (to operate the valve) >> - and suck back >> >> On sucking the valve has to block, totally block the sucking back. If >> there is gentle blow by the valve is gone. >> >> My HD valve construction can be easy made by people who has a lathe. >> The dimensions aren't important. >> You can take the normal PVC valve as pattern. >> >> The spring is the important part. I used a snippet of a SU carb spring >> for valve operating. >> >> Installed: >> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tEf8uoPfIBo/UJJmlQug4SI/AAAAAAAABhI >> /GcSEH >> 3d4wnU/s983/20121101_130726.jpg >> >> >> >> Cheers >> Chris >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 1 06:59:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5AB042B51 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 06:59:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f50.google.com (mail-ee0-f50.google.com [74.125.83.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387A742AD5 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 06:59:34 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ee0-f50.google.com with SMTP id e51so2125384eek.37 for ; Fri, 01 Feb 2013 05:54:34 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=fsojzVVicrCce2NsYSjt+oMpcVup9sdS90tb+R4MSiM=; b=uB9mDONYhraW9j4YPe5bfSiZeznZHUagLXfcuE4tD36rjB6ZP0ND1HaMbjWlFaVZrZ qf9YZguDqX+HT2ww9q8VY1xOiIWyepW07uWcrdUtVWNNwCKO1Irev+gXrAlcpbf9lSVL ttdtBHmEM9Kepw1Bpkvmm0+tjwxof0gZGjpOdkviD90mT/8gCI3y3yfGTYTH4kQbbs7R yq1wXjeQpMWhAM7jfsVTh442knbI1RAjyH7Cl2Zx0eiRuEjh2jlpizgXU4VQ13ALUYJt +D+kPkVjpafrlsjhl8l4GGcr8+hlXkVznfkrkBVk+emRStTHQQvhMPVZ7/qjtzea3V2B cEHw== 42mr39777501eej.35.1359726873949; Fri, 01 Feb 2013 05:54:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home ([2.171.103.100]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t44sm12663972eeo.2.2013.02.01.05.54.31 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 01 Feb 2013 05:54:33 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <19E0A7F2-AA29-473E-8DF5-1B5373620DCF@aol.com> <1359726566.95517.YahooMailClassic@web181406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 14:54:30 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac4AgvQEI/vKk7hkTLyv+ve9eooQOQAAH6Ug Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Crankcase Venting - testing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Regardless of the name, it does work. Ive measured the pressure value with a gauge that read positive and negative values. I see very often negative values and very tiny positive values. Cheers Chris Von: EDWARD BARNARD [mailto:edwardbarnard@prodigy.net] Gesendet: Freitag, 1. Februar 2013 14:49 An: MadMarx; Christopher Bock Cc: Betreff: Re: [Fot] Crankcase Venting - testing Chris: I do believe you mean: PCV: Positive Crankcase Ventilation SeaCubeCo@aol.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [Fot] Crankcase Venting - testing Date: Friday, February 1, 2013, 7:17 AM Just joking. PVC. Poly vinyl chloride. White plastic tubing PCV. Particle control valve. Just having fun with. It is a great read Chris On Feb 1, 2013, at 7:30 AM, "MadMarx" > wrote: > I've just taken over the phrase. > > I'm talking about a valve which use the exhaust system to vent the > crankcase. > > No idea if it is called PVC or PCV? > > Cheers > Chris > > -----UrsprC Von: Christopher Bock [mailto:SeaCubeCo@aol.com ] > Gesendet: Freitag, 1. Februar 2013 13:27 > An: MadMarx > Cc: > > Betreff: Re: [Fot] Crankcase Venting - testing > > Are we talking about PVC or PCV? > > Chris > > On Feb 1, 2013, at 2:31 AM, "MadMarx" > wrote: > >> How to test a PVC valve? >> >> After I had these several failures I've checked the valve before each run: >> >> - I pull the hose from the valve cover >> - blow by mouth into the hose (to operate the valve) >> - and suck back >> >> On sucking the valve has to block, totally block the sucking back. If >> there is gentle blow by the valve is gone. >> >> My HD valve construction can be easy made by people who has a lathe. >> The dimensions aren't important. >> You can take the normal PVC valve as pattern. >> >> The spring is the important part. I used a snippet of a SU carb spring >> for valve operating. >> >> Installed: >> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tEf8uoPfIBo/UJJmlQug4SI/AAAAAAAABhI >> /GcSEH >> 3d4wnU/s983/20121101_130726.jpg >> >> >> >> Cheers >> Chris >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 1 07:11:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622EA42B5B for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 07:11:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB86542A9F for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 07:11:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.4]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9FA001C0000CC; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 09:06:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.238.19.173] (mobile-198-228-224-228.mycingular.net [198.228.224.228]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 3F54BE001EE7; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 09:06:17 -0500 (EST) References: <1359726566.95517.YahooMailClassic@web181406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: Christopher Bock Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 09:06:11 -0500 To: EDWARD BARNARD x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1359727578; bh=J73vyW5AYGuohcWvYaH8KRT6dsIhslAmQ6hTG7x7OfQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=FdI1SG1lEtNmWScdy0i1SCcAuZQhmfso5VU/yxUgfwlpgJGJ6CGIUT37PGcggLiMc oGQwb2hoPohtXb0ANj4uw+WUp/Wu4pqkgPJPpd4Zm2VEH+4wErLQyP8JIJs0YKxjJS 1XlKlQb1Hgy62r/kR1xLl9a9GVradTR9LXjZ9wUw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2904510bcbd953fe Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Crankcase Venting - testing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I think positive crankcase ventilation is the system and partial control valve is a tool in that process Terminology can be off but getting it to work is important. Chris On Feb 1, 2013, at 8:49 AM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > > Chris: I do believe you mean: > PCV: Positive Crankcase Ventilation > > --- On Fri, 2/1/13, Christopher Bock wrote: > > From: Christopher Bock > Subject: Re: [Fot] Crankcase Venting - testing > To: "MadMarx" > Cc: "" > Date: Friday, February 1, 2013, 7:17 AM > > Just joking. > > PVC. Poly vinyl chloride. White plastic tubing > > PCV. Particle control valve. > > Just having fun with. > > It is a great read > Chris > > On Feb 1, 2013, at 7:30 AM, "MadMarx" wrote: > > > I've just taken over the phrase. > > > > I'm talking about a valve which use the exhaust system to vent the > > crankcase. > > > > No idea if it is called PVC or PCV? > > > > Cheers > > Chris > > > > -----UrsprC > Von: Christopher Bock [mailto:SeaCubeCo@aol.com] > > Gesendet: Freitag, 1. Februar 2013 13:27 > > An: MadMarx > > Cc: > > Betreff: Re: [Fot] Crankcase Venting - testing > > > > Are we talking about PVC or PCV? > > > > Chris > > > > On Feb 1, 2013, at 2:31 AM, "MadMarx" wrote: > > > >> How to test a PVC valve? > >> > >> After I had these several failures I've checked the valve before each run: > >> > >> - I pull the hose from the valve cover > >> - blow by mouth into the hose (to operate the valve) > >> - and suck back > >> > >> On sucking the valve has to block, totally block the sucking back. If > >> there is gentle blow by the valve is gone. > >> > >> My HD valve construction can be easy made by people who has a lathe. > >> The dimensions aren't important. > >> You can take the normal PVC valve as pattern. > >> > >> The spring is the important part. I used a snippet of a SU carb spring > >> for valve operating. > >> > >> Installed: > >> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tEf8uoPfIBo/UJJmlQug4SI/AAAAAAAABhI > >> /GcSEH > >> 3d4wnU/s983/20121101_130726.jpg > >> > >> > >> > >> Cheers > >> Chris > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 1 08:26:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F52C42AE4 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 08:26:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from e7.ny.us.ibm.com (e7.ny.us.ibm.com [32.97.182.137]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70FA142A78 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 08:26:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from /spool/local by e7.ny.us.ibm.com with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! 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Violators will be prosecuted; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 10:21:02 -0500 Received: from d01relay02.pok.ibm.com (d01relay02.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.234]) by d01dlp02.pok.ibm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93196E8048 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 10:21:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from d01av02.pok.ibm.com (d01av02.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.216]) by d01relay02.pok.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id r11FL1jF268072 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 10:21:01 -0500 Received: from d01av02.pok.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d01av02.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id r11FL1fp024077 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 13:21:01 -0200 Received: from d01ml099.pok.ibm.com (d01ml099.pok.ibm.com [9.63.8.34]) by d01av02.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVin) with ESMTP id r11FL1d4024063 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 13:21:01 -0200 References: To: fot@autox.team.net From: George Harmuth Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 10:20:59 -0500 ZX853FP2HF2|October 8, 2012) at 02/01/2013 10:21:01 x-cbid: 13020115-5806-0000-0000-00001F08E943 Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 74, Issue 57 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net "The 24 hour race at Daytona this weekend got me thinking" I was working the race last weekend as a flagger. They had this TR8 in the Heritage Racer section of the infield, next to a nice Lotus powered Ford Cortina http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/harmug/2013%20Rolex%2024%20hr%20race/Group44_3.jpg http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/harmug/2013%20Rolex%2024%20hr%20race/Group44_1.jpg http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/harmug/2013%20Rolex%2024%20hr%20race/Group44_2.jpg http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/harmug/2013%20Rolex%2024%20hr%20race/LotusCortina.jpg http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/harmug/2013%20Rolex%2024%20hr%20race/LotusPart.jpg Tough work, but someone has to do it; http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/harmug/2013%20Rolex%2024%20hr%20race/NOSGirls.jpg mike h G. Michael Harmuth Software Engineer Automated Material Handling Equipment Engineering Services _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 1 08:28:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB7942B54 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 08:28:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.o2.co.uk (yoda.london.02.net [82.132.130.151]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E7142A78 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 08:28:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.22.90.126] (82.132.224.191) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.5.140.03) id 50B640DB106E946B; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 15:23:07 +0000 References: <1359726566.95517.YahooMailClassic@web181406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <39E76803-7782-4AFD-82A3-0D8EC8272041@aol.com> From: TR4 Tony Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 15:21:36 +0000 To: Christopher Bock Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Crankcase Venting - testing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi I haven't found the need for vacuuming and in fact I think it introduces another element of unreliability into the manifold, which I cannot tolerate when rallying as the opportunities to repair are so limited 'in the field/forests'. Perhaps this is something just for track cars which get short bursts of uses At constant high revs ?? I can't see any such system holding out with constant use in an endurance environment where revs vary between idle and maximum regularly. Also, if you are running in wet conditions or extremes of temperature I would expect a greater failure rate. Again, this is the world of rallying. Regards Tony Sent from my iPhone On 1 Feb 2013, at 14:06, Christopher Bock wrote: > I think positive crankcase ventilation is the system and partial control > valve is a tool in that process > > Terminology can be off but getting it to work is important. > > Chris > > > On Feb 1, 2013, at 8:49 AM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > >> >> Chris: I do believe you mean: >> PCV: Positive Crankcase Ventilation >> >> --- On Fri, 2/1/13, Christopher Bock wrote: >> >> From: Christopher Bock >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Crankcase Venting - testing >> To: "MadMarx" >> Cc: "" >> Date: Friday, February 1, 2013, 7:17 AM >> >> Just joking. >> >> PVC. Poly vinyl chloride. White plastic tubing >> >> PCV. Particle control valve. >> >> Just having fun with. >> >> It is a great read >> Chris >> >> On Feb 1, 2013, at 7:30 AM, "MadMarx" wrote: >> >>> I've just taken over the phrase. >>> >>> I'm talking about a valve which use the exhaust system to vent the >>> crankcase. >>> >>> No idea if it is called PVC or PCV? >>> >>> Cheers >>> Chris >>> >>> -----UrsprC>> Von: Christopher Bock [mailto:SeaCubeCo@aol.com] >>> Gesendet: Freitag, 1. Februar 2013 13:27 >>> An: MadMarx >>> Cc: >>> Betreff: Re: [Fot] Crankcase Venting - testing >>> >>> Are we talking about PVC or PCV? >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> On Feb 1, 2013, at 2:31 AM, "MadMarx" wrote: >>> >>>> How to test a PVC valve? >>>> >>>> After I had these several failures I've checked the valve before each > run: >>>> >>>> - I pull the hose from the valve cover >>>> - blow by mouth into the hose (to operate the valve) >>>> - and suck back >>>> >>>> On sucking the valve has to block, totally block the sucking back. If >>>> there is gentle blow by the valve is gone. >>>> >>>> My HD valve construction can be easy made by people who has a lathe. >>>> The dimensions aren't important. >>>> You can take the normal PVC valve as pattern. >>>> >>>> The spring is the important part. I used a snippet of a SU carb spring >>>> for valve operating. >>>> >>>> Installed: >>>> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tEf8uoPfIBo/UJJmlQug4SI/AAAAAAAABhI >>>> /GcSEH >>>> 3d4wnU/s983/20121101_130726.jpg >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Chris >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 1 09:44:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4110142A92 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 09:44:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFFF6429DC for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 09:37:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.99.26] (c-76-99-29-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [76.99.29.73]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MHJ00DXPV9EYL60@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 01 Feb 2013 16:32:04 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-02-01_04:2013-02-01,2013-02-01,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1302010103 From: Scott Janzen Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 11:32:02 -0500 References: To: George Harmuth Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 74, Issue 57 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net wow, I'm going to have to go to this someday to see all the cars - this is much more of a spectacle than the typical vintage event I go to. On Feb 1, 2013, at 10:20 AM, George Harmuth wrote: "The 24 hour race at Daytona this weekend got me thinking" I was working the race last weekend as a flagger. They had this TR8 in the Heritage Racer section of the infield, next to a nice Lotus powered Ford Cortina http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/harmug/2013%20Rolex%2024%20hr%20race/Group44_3.jpg http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/harmug/2013%20Rolex%2024%20hr%20race/Group44_1.jpg http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/harmug/2013%20Rolex%2024%20hr%20race/Group44_2.jpg http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/harmug/2013%20Rolex%2024%20hr%20race/LotusCortina.jpg http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/harmug/2013%20Rolex%2024%20hr%20race/LotusPart.jpg Tough work, but someone has to do it; http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/harmug/2013%20Rolex%2024%20hr%20race/NOSGirls.jpg mike h G. Michael Harmuth Software Engineer Automated Material Handling Equipment Engineering Services _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 1 10:07:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B5542B2B for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 10:07:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail1.bemta7.messagelabs.com (mail4.bemta7.messagelabs.com [216.82.255.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A3442A3D for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 10:07:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from [216.82.254.20:7748] by server-8.bemta-7.messagelabs.com id 59/2F-11467-735FB015; Fri, 01 Feb 2013 17:02:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 16129 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2013 17:02:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chis0225.am.amersports.int) (198.184.220.8) by server-16.tower-47.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 1 Feb 2013 17:02:46 -0000 Received: from chis0225.am.amersports.int ([10.4.34.225]) by chis0225.am.amersports.int ([10.4.34.225]) with mapi; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 11:02:46 -0600 From: "Reed, John" To: George Harmuth , 'Friends of Triumph' Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 11:02:44 -0600 Thread-Topic: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 74, Issue 57 Thread-Index: Ac4Aj8nDNUD0isx4T66MKsO6qIU7qAADioBy Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 74, Issue 57 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tough work, but someone has to do it; Nice umbrellas!! On 2/1/13 9:20 AM, "George Harmuth" wrote: Tough work, but someone has to do it; John Reed Global Staff Photographer Creative Services [cid:3442561364_57204686] Wilson Sporting Goods Co. 8750 W. Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago IL 60631: USA T: 1 773.714.6895 F: 1 773.714.4585 John.Reed@wilson.com http://www.wilson.com http://www.amersports.com This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image.png] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 1 10:16:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B18E42A9C for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 10:16:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8399442A3D for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 10:09:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.77]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8DE221C000228; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 12:04:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msa001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msa001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.65]) by mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 81322E000085; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 12:04:18 -0500 (EST) References: <9D7B857A-49DF-4995-93C8-53063A9DB7D5@me.com> To: sjanzen@me.com, harmug@us.ibm.com Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m043.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.226) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 01 Feb 2013 12:04:18 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 12:04:18 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1359738259; bh=N7V1TTE8ixWXYixz+vyqKDSFu3puaF8hGOTnhEsZGqQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=c9hfE1at3ZhLjgDXugx/ruDxfEYa+X9ghPE/u/vmty4YPmVCfDUUeOkBUroTPA22I K0PZlcI7gBGcmKCeVk5MiwDHR9t2edEPrpSVUvmuyqWjTBM0kH8LLvT9ROavb/j4Ie ZKv2mfRAXg+2g4SuXvYofKEkXrMPZTzYbhG7AYPs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294d510bf5927887 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] 24 HOURS OF DAYTONA PICTURES......now KASTNER CUP 2013 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A Group 44 prepared TR8 will likely be with us at the KASTNER CUP, not to mention the TR250K, a PLN tribute TR6, SCCA Championship cars, TRIUMPH SPECIALS, newly restored WET SLEEVE TRs and much, much more. Yesterday, I got a call from Colorado. The RMVR guys are planning to come....those guys usually stick close to the mountains. The Kastner Cup is not the 24 HOURS OF DAYTONA, but something very special is going on here. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Scott Janzen To: George Harmuth Cc: fot Sent: Fri, Feb 1, 2013 10:40 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 74, Issue 57 wow, I'm going to have to go to this someday to see all the cars - this is much more of a spectacle than the typical vintage event I go to. On Feb 1, 2013, at 10:20 AM, George Harmuth wrote: "The 24 hour race at Daytona this weekend got me thinking" I was working the race last weekend as a flagger. They had this TR8 in the Heritage Racer section of the infield, next to a nice Lotus powered Ford Cortina http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/harmug/2013%20Rolex%2024%20hr%20race/Gro up44_3.jpg http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/harmug/2013%20Rolex%2024%20hr%20race/Gro up44_1.jpg http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/harmug/2013%20Rolex%2024%20hr%20race/Gro up44_2.jpg http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/harmug/2013%20Rolex%2024%20hr%20race/Lot usCortina.jpg http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/harmug/2013%20Rolex%2024%20hr%20race/Lot usPart.jpg Tough work, but someone has to do it; http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/harmug/2013%20Rolex%2024%20hr%20race/NOS Girls.jpg mike h G. Michael Harmuth Software Engineer Automated Material Handling Equipment Engineering Services _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 1 14:47:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5755C42A75 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 14:47:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s19.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s19.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.30]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8893F42268 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 14:47:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU168-W90 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s19.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 1 Feb 2013 13:42:00 -0800 From: marty sukey To: Mike Harmuth , FOT Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 16:41:59 -0500 References: , FILETIME=[F7518D30:01CE00C4] Subject: [Fot] Umbrella holders Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Somewhere there is a picture floating around of me holding an umbrella over Jeff Snook last time FOT was at Road America. Jeff, I'd have to say you got the short end of the stick on that one! _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 1 15:28:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9586429C1 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 15:28:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4610E42261 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 15:25:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.8]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 233921C000136; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 17:20:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mtb004a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtb004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.205]) by mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 990AAE000089; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 17:20:14 -0500 (EST) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 17:20:13 -0500 (EST) To: trmarty@hotmail.com, harmug@us.ibm.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1359757215; bh=J0Eo4qcY6ZnNUTJKn7Lv9DOU/Tt8qXcplyAzgVZ61sU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BgVn2+vs/xOTevyaH4ho3esQKxf5qjOoC1EKSmmywdjTSxBPfkrW6yj0lVIifcgXH AlPMPtAV1PqTkCZ28gx28tTLgtIUwFo8/FlnBiCa7/Ik5ZsPSvgHyjSfSIEciXn40i bgeMlr3RDmstE8tiCdFbOxPaz/LkSyMbQ6RZjtbM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2908510c3f9e5012 Subject: Re: [Fot] Umbrella holders Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 02/01/2013 3:42:10 PM Central Standard Time, trmarty@hotmail.com writes: > Somewhere there is a picture floating around of me holding an umbrella > over > Jeff Snook last time FOT was at Road America. Jeff, I'd have to say you > got > the short end of the stick on that one! > I remember that. It was neither sunny nor raining. Folks were just throwing stuff at Snook. I threw a roll of duct tape. Bill (Damdinger) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 2 09:36:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311A14286C for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 09:36:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s4.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s4.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0209F40EE1 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 09:35:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT141-W39 ([65.55.90.73]) by snt0-omc2-s4.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 2 Feb 2013 08:30:40 -0800 From: Tony and Annie Garmey To: Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 08:30:39 -0800 FILETIME=[A3810ED0:01CE0162] Subject: [Fot] TR 6 cyl R/rockers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Good Morning, I have a lighty used set of Rollers for sale. They were used 2-3 events on the K car. No adjusters. $200 or BO Please contact me off list. Thank youTony _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 2 10:13:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F0B42A9C for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 10:13:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s26.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s26.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.101]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E1440E58 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 10:12:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT141-W16 ([65.55.90.73]) by snt0-omc2-s26.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 2 Feb 2013 09:07:50 -0800 From: Tony and Annie Garmey To: Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 09:07:50 -0800 FILETIME=[D501B040:01CE0167] Subject: [Fot] R/Rockers SOLD Thx Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 2 12:34:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965FB42BA2 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 12:34:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B71942B23 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 12:34:06 -0700 (MST) a=PSrov286ou17py3pFMVYXA==:17 a=PzwunHVvOysA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=9RlVh2r9CAQA:10 a=AcdjiWDHAAAA:8 a=RMCCwgO3lPGZclgMYZ4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=g0cirdXBFxMA:10 a=Y_hP0gDCUOoA:10 a=PSrov286ou17py3pFMVYXA==:117 Received: from [76.84.234.214] ([76.84.234.214:2879] helo=guinanhp) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 18/40-06157-CF86D015; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 19:29:01 +0000 From: "Joe Guinan" To: References: Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 13:31:24 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac4Bdv6gz5axv0ThTSuUQCMkG2B7PgAA1Pag Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Wheels Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT, I find myself in need of wheels for a couple Spitfire vintage racers. Long story short - a "friend" who I was sub-letting some storage space from stopped paying his bill, and everything in the space was sold at auction. I lost three sets of polished aluminum dish wheels, two sets of Cosmic alloys, one set of really cool Compomotive alloys, and a couple sets of stock Spitfire wheels. That's not to mention the two Spitfires (one badly wrecked, one very restorable). Eh, life goes on... Anyway - if you have any Spitfire / GT6 wheels suitable for use on a race car that you are not using, please let me know what you need for them. I won't be able to replace everything I lost, but I need three sets of wheels pretty badly if I'm going to make the Kastner Cup in September. Joe Guinan Fremont, Nebraska joeg@neb.rr.com or Spitfirejoe@email.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 3 09:29:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298DD42D97 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 09:29:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm30-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm30-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CAAA40EAC for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 09:23:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.101] by nm30.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2013 16:18:50 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.86] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2013 16:18:50 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1023.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Feb 2013 16:18:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 56228 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Feb 2013 16:18:49 -0000 s=s1024; t=1359908329; bh=QQVjO9mLvNqAWX28pC2ZTeFLltO8WvFnPN5OLFmqy7Y=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mRIvvdW41dLBwzzrl+2/2xYrLLBawStDfmHYKjGLQz+Zj3PD1RWuy36TINBOloSIE43oEqArputpCpDBw7ibjDQ53jueibXSnW1YkVu7V32WPblqkd+pyivc7n7HRnKIvHzd9L80QbjypD3BASkNM/PvCSwlppAwypAYwSmEyh8= s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DzuQY+wSmlKzlsWgc3hNUj9GLomL1UYhjkiRYj52rSKftnFIkBHii0fAAiiRm8/HO9rym5d7GZs4+zTLreAyDa/qi8sVf58glSBclRmoK8hfXMCNaF1f6QxzU1/Ir5D5NUC6kK0pP8TnA07AvU6jTfsAUUWNPJDlKDTGnqrovb8=; SolYDC6s9a.o0O2utGGGZ6W.Vb32cuDVxQho_tMU.1UHIhOCBEg3FZY.eJUV u.RtHaqfh1RvlUGF1ZRMQez4WKVsdrIn_V0H3dS4xnF7Gq3LAJYuZ5.XYch2 rhOxQZ33okzEEPsiM2pYNqMaYmvzG7wtQi1QeQV5i3qKZkrkr6eIVM0WEs.W z8HWr.Zg04ifq6c_24nN_o2N6EhDS37MiEGVvi5CtpwSUZV4T6h2.psYmm5A .0fpvGjnGCKgWCYeWAJN.RBUHZEyk_Yq2Xlz168tS6iqZSrboVInGISb8bBa YVyOyclfAhr8Cjo.8ue0h4IritBIftmaMttevdbdg_od2XedydaYs1DiBuKY 04GRKFLhTKrkupORC8ZE3Z0of5GHOdNmVCepXQjOvo07lxzQWl2kUSSX_TLr t0xQ1E4yrMwZf0vkCUQ4aEtr76u7UheOmchp4PzMocWhXz9N6Zf1Po7.9GRI fwtHkZqj4Z4gv_NI0Pd6e Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web181401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 08:18:49 PST R3JvdXA6DQpEb2VzIHRoZSBzbWFsbCBwbGF0ZSBvbiB0aGUgY2hhc3NpcyBjcm9zcyBtZW1iZXIsIHVuZGVyIHRoZSBmcm9udCBvZiB0aGUgZW5naW5lIG9uIGEgVFIyLTQgZG9uYXRlIHNvbWV0aGluZz8gSXMgdGhpcyBhIGNoYXNzaXMgIywgYSBiYXRjaCAjIGZyb20gdGhlIGNoYXNzaXMgbWFudWZhY3R1cmVyPyBXaG8gbWFkZSB0aGUgY2hhc3NpcyBmb3IgdGhlIFRSMi00IGZvciBUcml1bXBoPw0KVGhhbmtzIGluIGFkdmFuY2UuDQotRWQtATABAQEB Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 08:18:49 -0800 (PST) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Chassis number Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Group: Does the small plate on the chassis cross member, under the front of the engine on a TR2-4 donate something? Is this a chassis #, a batch # from the chassis manufacturer? Who made the chassis for the TR2-4 for Triumph? Thanks in advance. -Ed- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 3 13:23:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE85C4255A for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 13:23:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C2E242471 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 13:17:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([unknown] [71.171.20.145]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MHN00IYNURS1TD1@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 14:11:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 15:11:49 -0500 From: "J.C. Hassall" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100722 Eudora/3.0.4 To: fot Subject: [Fot] memorial "ad" for Jimmy and Lanky Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici, It seems that Lanky has gotten a lot of well-deserved coverage lately (see also the Oct-Nov VTR magazine) but Jimmy hasn't been "in the lime light". In an effort to generate more interest in sponsoring an "ad" memorializing them in Levy's next book, I asked Kas to give me a write up about Jimmy. Here's Kas' note: Mike Cook is doing a very good memorial article of Jimmy for the VTR magazine and it will probably bet better than anything I can give you as it will all be repeats. But try this on: James Anthony Coan came to me in the middle of 1965 as a brash, aggressive young guy who said he wanted to work at a challenging job. I gave him the opportunity with a 18" wide broom. Broom engineering lasted a couple weeks and then it was obvious he really had some interest in what we were doing and the complication of running a department that was working all over the country with a minimum of assistance from the mother factory. With his basic mechanical knowledge gained working at a dealership, Jim put his head into helping build a series of cars for the 1966 Sebring 12 hour event. This was his first test of showing devotion to his job. The hours spent in that effort were quite incredible. From this rather harsh test of abilities, I then heaped work on him. Jimmy responded at the top of the page every time. It was not the effort as a mechanic that I found and later treasured, but the devotion to his job and interest in learning everything he could about every aspect of working in a technical arena with close inspection all the time from outside sources. Jim's response to more and more detailed assignments gave the answers that I wanted and were needed to further the competition departments goals of assisting private owners. When I resigned from British Leyland it was a great pleasure to recommend Jimmy Coan as my replacement. Jimmy was my loyal and very good friend. Our friendship and trust continued long after our Triumph days and through the very last hours of his life. In case you haven't seen the artwork, here's the link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/92513095@N03/8408581917/ I need pledges by 11 FEB for this to happen, and we're still well short of critical mass. If you're thinking about participating, pls send me a note with a $ amount that I can add to the (very short) list of pledges. tnx jim -- Jim Hassall Blacksburg VA '63 TR4 in autox preparation 99% finished, 90% to go _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 3 13:39:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679564255F for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 13:39:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f42.google.com (mail-pa0-f42.google.com [209.85.220.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 949C140540 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 13:32:53 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id kq12so120660pab.1 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 12:27:42 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=LHjVF4HsaSGCIHx4xqcd6LS2G8Mr9LBhx3q5o2SV2B4=; b=vwzB75SXdpMaX42hUpkohb9MCbxvRQ0PR/ucIOMtMNPopoRIJzdvm/SuuyIHzKM9ww Hq07+jgafmcyqOvUPQJErkIrJD6B3fy8TqNoPdt9D25Z8MPjXEFABsq9dG5aU4I0xvpU W8qMyzzkXv4o7I6Z2R7ja2nZByOrWpL7T+jwUE2s6HJoFFgiX1WVXzzFR6LvDZsJixk2 pqo6fQ1b+/Cruxh1x58OI4HD+zV4RuNFthNjeuKTPx1cjm7RGl8IdFs+TL/wdNDmoUiv fwkTDcQN3RY+rPZdXd+V0AotwqCgZr/Mxk8W24l0c3VNPXMFA0qDl1qrfP5wxSK2YWBc u5MA== tq2mr49459271pbc.43.1359923262771; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 12:27:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.38] (udp235485uds.hawaiiantel.net. [72.234.40.189]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hs2sm15547461pbc.22.2013.02.03.12.27.38 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 03 Feb 2013 12:27:41 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Babcock Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 10:27:36 -1000 References: <510EC485.6060707@blacksburg.net> To: "J.C. Hassall" Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] memorial "ad" for Jimmy and Lanky Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Jim. I'll kick in a hundred. Your email address will work for a paypal payment. Is that OK with you? On Feb 3, 2013, at 10:11 AM, "J.C. Hassall" wrote: > Amici, > > It seems that Lanky has gotten a lot of well-deserved coverage lately (see also the Oct-Nov VTR magazine) but Jimmy hasn't been "in the lime light". In an effort to generate more interest in sponsoring an "ad" memorializing them in Levy's next book, I asked Kas to give me a write up about Jimmy. Here's Kas' note: > > Mike Cook is doing a very good memorial article of Jimmy for the VTR magazine and it will probably bet better than anything I can give you as it will all be repeats. But try this on: > > James Anthony Coan came to me in the middle of 1965 as a brash, aggressive young guy who said he wanted to work at a challenging job. I gave him the opportunity with a 18" wide broom. Broom engineering lasted a couple weeks and then it was obvious he really had some interest in what we were doing and the complication of running a department that was working all over the country with a minimum of assistance from the mother factory. > > With his basic mechanical knowledge gained working at a dealership, Jim put his head into helping build a series of cars for the 1966 Sebring 12 hour event. This was his first test of showing devotion to his job. The hours spent in that effort were quite incredible. From this rather harsh test of abilities, I then heaped work on him. Jimmy responded at the top of the page every time. > > It was not the effort as a mechanic that I found and later treasured, but the devotion to his job and interest in learning everything he could about every aspect of working in a technical arena with close inspection all the time from outside sources. Jim's response to more and more detailed assignments gave the answers that I wanted and were needed to further the competition departments goals of assisting private owners. When I resigned from British Leyland it was a great pleasure to recommend Jimmy Coan as my replacement. Jimmy was my loyal and very good friend. Our friendship and trust continued long after our Triumph days and through the very last hours of his life. > > > In case you haven't seen the artwork, here's the link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/92513095@N03/8408581917/ > > I need pledges by 11 FEB for this to happen, and we're still well short of critical mass. If you're thinking about participating, pls send me a note with a $ amount that I can add to the (very short) list of pledges. > > tnx > > jim > > -- > Jim Hassall > Blacksburg VA > '63 TR4 in autox preparation > 99% finished, 90% to go > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billb@bnj.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 3 14:40:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED39442593 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 14:40:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24E84248E for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 14:34:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13BD3A0ACD for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 14:31:00 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 14:31:00 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15.1 To: fot References: <510EC485.6060707@blacksburg.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] memorial "ad" for Jimmy and Lanky Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > I need pledges by 11 FEB for this to happen, and we're still well > short of critical mass. If you're thinking about participating, pls > send me a note with a $ amount that I can add to the (very short) list > of pledges. > > tnx > > jim > The company I am currently working with takes their own sweet time paying on the invoices I send. If I get a decent check before the 11th, I'll kick in a few bucks. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 3 15:57:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B70426BF for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 15:57:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc1-s17.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc1-s17.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.28]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6976542570 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 15:50:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT120-W59 ([65.55.90.7]) by snt0-omc1-s17.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 3 Feb 2013 14:45:19 -0800 From: Kas Kastner To: , fot Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 22:45:18 +0000 References: <510EC485.6060707@blacksburg.net> FILETIME=[2491BD50:01CE0260] Subject: Re: [Fot] memorial "ad" for Jimmy and Lanky Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Please list a mailing address so I can send a check. Maybe some other folks need it also. Never be beaten by equipment > Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 15:11:49 -0500 > From: jhassall@blacksburg.net > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] memorial "ad" for Jimmy and Lanky > > Amici, > > It seems that Lanky has gotten a lot of well-deserved coverage lately > (see also the Oct-Nov VTR magazine) but Jimmy hasn't been "in the lime > light". In an effort to generate more interest in sponsoring an "ad" > memorializing them in Levy's next book, I asked Kas to give me a write > up about Jimmy. Here's Kas' note: > > Mike Cook is doing a very good memorial article of Jimmy for the VTR > magazine and it will probably bet better than anything I can give you as > it will all be repeats. But try this on: > > James Anthony Coan came to me in the middle of 1965 as a brash, > aggressive young guy who said he wanted to work at a challenging job. I > gave him the opportunity with a 18" wide broom. Broom > engineering lasted a couple weeks and then it was obvious he really had > some interest in what we were doing and the complication of running a > department that was working all over the country with a minimum of > assistance from the mother factory. > > With his basic mechanical knowledge gained working at a dealership, Jim > put his head into helping build a series of cars for the 1966 Sebring 12 > hour event. This was his first test of showing devotion to his job. The > hours spent in that effort were quite incredible. From this rather harsh > test of abilities, I then heaped work on him. Jimmy responded at the top > of the page every time. > > It was not the effort as a mechanic that I found and later treasured, > but the devotion to his job and interest in learning everything he could > about every aspect of working in a technical arena with close inspection > all the time from outside sources. Jim's response to more and more > detailed assignments gave the answers that I wanted and were needed to > further the competition departments goals of assisting private owners. > When I resigned from British Leyland it was a great pleasure to > recommend Jimmy Coan as my replacement. Jimmy was my loyal and very > good friend. Our friendship and trust continued long after our Triumph > days and through the very last hours of his life. > > > In case you haven't seen the artwork, here's the link: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/92513095@N03/8408581917/ > > I need pledges by 11 FEB for this to happen, and we're still well short > of critical mass. If you're thinking about participating, pls send me a > note with a $ amount that I can add to the (very short) list of pledges. > > tnx > > jim > > -- > Jim Hassall > Blacksburg VA > '63 TR4 in autox preparation > 99% finished, 90% to go > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 3 18:47:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEBC842839 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:47:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8222427DE for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:40:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([unknown] [71.171.20.145]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MHO006ON9QQ3H80@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 19:35:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 20:35:14 -0500 From: "J.C. Hassall" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100722 Eudora/3.0.4 To: Kas Kastner References: <510EC485.6060707@blacksburg.net> Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] memorial "ad" for Jimmy and Lanky Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 2/3/2013 5:45 PM, Kas Kastner wrote: > Please list a mailing address so I can send a check. Maybe some other > folks need it also. > > Never be beaten by equipment Tnx Kas, I appreciate it. My address is J.C. Hassall 103 Airport Rd. Blacksburg VA 24060 Pls provide a return address, so if we don't make critical mass I can return the check. jim -- Jim Hassall Blacksburg VA '63 TR4 in autox preparation 99% finished, 90% to go _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 3 20:04:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E251542E25 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 20:04:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm5.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm5.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.206]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3DE427F7 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 20:02:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.195] by nm5.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2013 02:57:04 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.111] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2013 02:57:04 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1016.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2013 02:57:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 18660 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Feb 2013 02:57:04 -0000 s=s1024; t=1359946623; bh=2v8nuxif6qAfv+KCiHV5A8PN2r9QajVfUdnp8BehsSQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FAv+I8yZy7CsVlyQqmtcy3A+j985iI3hX0pOYx0VVnSD+gt/x7FqQVsAvQMKoy/J2gwMO0coC0pwRnCyHqtOcVbif/tarAebL0K6QWFywxUGUYG/9eYfYKrsDAcTXs7ghyAI9G+a/pstaBYLueIcXmcfW6TFwV0l9WdtFx2wtlo= s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5eyF2XhkASu4Tdp2IVI84Ur2MTowWoYeMJrBOmtIsetvJ3uFlW1vaZuKAveyZBD1AsPJB3Pib9mntLM+kGMsrdjNNvfAE6NkL4ZsPxnxa1THo2Du8o4qSufLdBrCouZ6e3ojS8mTQW1Qlv/K8xYZJLXrsPc77cQ6kCrDbFtlnnM=; oaK7Uk8e38r9zar8C7nVIO.VoP35NMrIyiuVjJQ6O6io8ZUVT.BxUtRFUCr9 _WoLpuzfaajAG5UeMR90wfYySFCp1rjxsP8IUeGw4EGJ14e7XHxsX4rWeUUN B6kzkoAZk3sYA2EiZcexbWQ70aVNxa8Wls15MZy4AMJ4WLPEXqlatMuLGG2l RmSt_1mRxunwufAYZuYL7Qj742M8RTNul9.hN41JPRP2ayHT05B78_fo5plj mzPMvPN7Oh7KtzgyBSMXFDuEcYC58ouRw_2VAMKhTmuCwHL3qOP1_oX5BMwY F6z5.XigBxGnHP90sfhtS.fchJcEGJopNsHbvF.TrUzGb38kq9aDa0uP3zSn QHC7Bk9mXNkmbKlS.LxGY8sq2iJsOcfVq3SNd2eFou1whV5fTpmjSSbFH.YN LG9KTP_laBKHMi27c_ESGgnDxq2uNuVOdFNnda.nkOAwZ7NDhsonb1Wy80N. ctPRY3zzHC.1dfGsUWNK4ZQDwJ0o4Yt75ivFDYTaHYACxV0_Iw5dmABSFdub 6dGb.0SQo30XN7TNnKm.ahyOPoyRwjeoiQm1BR7reBGH5LD.JnvyzARzjBNu zzC9I6YpWMPOj9UbVDCddG_CArtKFuZvwfQ9H_Rjz3qmVGf.CSq3yXpyPfDJ 5Cd04xlSzF7bpiRxjIcn10q.b90an_87qGRYs7D8BESu.Nw1kVx4lIo1jVxA - Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web181406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 18:57:03 PST VGhhbmtzIHRvIGFsbCBmb3IgYWxsIHRoZSByZXBsaWVzLiBSZXZpc2lvbi9iYXRjaCDCoGxldmVsIG1ha2VzIHNlbnNlLiBJIGhhdmUgdGhyZWUgcmVzdG9yYXRpb25zIEkgYW0gY3VycmVudGx5IHdvcmtpbmcgb24sIGEgVFIzLCBhIFRSM0EsIGFuZCBhIDNCLiBFYWNoIGhhdmUgYSBudW1iZXIgc3RhcnRpbmcgd2l0aCBaLCBhbmQgZWFjaCBtb2RlbCBoYXMgYSBoaWdoZXIgbnVtYmVyIGFmdGVyIHRoZSBaLiANCldoYXRzIGN1cmlvdXMgaXMgdGhhdCBldmVuIHRoZSAzQiBoYXMgdGhlIGJyYWNrZXQgZm9yIHQBMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:57:03 -0800 (PST) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: trhouse@columbus.rr.com, FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Chassis number Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks to all for all the replies. Revision/batch level makes sense. I have three restorations I am currently working on, a TR3, a TR3A, and a 3B. Each have a number starting with Z, and each model has a higher number after the Z. Whats curious is that even the 3B has the bracket for the fuel shut-off valve, although the valve had stopped being used years earlier. Some bloke at the frame factory kept welding that bracket on, year after year, because some engineer forget to delete it from the drawing, or some supervisor forgot to tell the guy they deleted it That would never happen in a modern Chinese factory. Some comrade gets an extra ration of fish heads and rice for a cost savings idea. :O) Thanks - Ed --- On Sun, 2/3/13, trhouse@columbus.rr.com wrote: From: trhouse@columbus.rr.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Chassis number To: "EDWARD BARNARD" Date: Sunday, February 3, 2013, 4:30 PM The Z number notes to a frame design it changes as mods to the frame are made throught the production tom ---- EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Group: > Does the small plate on the chassis cross member, under the front of the engine on a TR2-4 donate something? Is this a chassis #, a batch # from the chassis manufacturer? Who made the chassis for the TR2-4 for Triumph? > Thanks in advance. > -Ed- > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trhouse@columbus.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 4 15:42:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA5440449 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 15:42:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm25.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm25.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.184]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F9C40420 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 15:42:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.214.32] by nm25.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2013 22:37:06 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.249] by tm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2013 22:37:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1058.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2013 22:37:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 92023 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Feb 2013 22:37:06 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360017426; bh=mjfT1bH199QsR4qd1Pd1KhQ15KV552i1R7LB0sX+HQA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cJsaIMTT+LiOPDU7rx/cnAwjBOx7WJcGz1Q0qNNkuNq5WoISHcnfvEnIwZgNZYQW2Yrhk3x0wmHohrCwbK8JIkb89ihIGQPiRn12RuDy4+5F395ORo2nbzgbpSTUK8ZgbDe1gIj0XaYKdmiDYMMj1Os0f5598aHkKREZRP/5NVY= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Tcm2nRF/ZvGK3XpqVElgezmlMBEoqmgyPb4wczDtbMS2DOKajUL+/eHOe6XqXZnD9daIIPQmunuJDX0XClUH0jzQPxCjSBz/12m0X0LBosPJIsnJSU3SyCRejFC6hJcmPTJ7Eseiam2AL8kngeSvWdSsAuOirA3gsaj9etpWPa0=; eCq7RWsdMDjWys3JJummYKMV0xLHXpL3faPWzOX1KlTpvYeztNyuwHtfSd7s K2iLOkjCKjHIXHmlQ3eUPx7QQhYxXh6IOxmGaKvtN_guywCzxyAI06dTcDVV i7J1NAYnlObXxmh8U0JkTvOWWSqz2DR9XjYDnx7yUB3wAc9PL35hS2Wqim4p WX8rA8kIONqxgJVww7fJLLynyMwjISOcZybb7GzUbb_TI3LniKbWcRmDY3io kOBtQV5Ww9gt1ggJPN2iEWtePa3_qPfkdm4bkIPJxEYG.ojiqAVw60_iFiSz SV8lMF8xrHl1s.lmbB_.gmZkplbfzw2uIg0nMiz6.e6U77r96DZk60QskwXD UoPE4yIrsj_.iP193ot4AlCWzXHuCztCOiYlE0_ocWJiELtH5TgWaSnb8Cxc WqZP_WCTfaetaoNVl6CLI3M6SSZ5Uh3FkFmhVUtX177i.cG8UHKIyX.BJjXd 2RW91bQbOVGsj8b9sDC69QEFTInIX3rm_EHBHvOipRgEsxmY2gJdD.FrBw4N E5rsjzzBwaSWT.1cJZEn1OmwpW96WcjH9pwjV3D0kliEWz59sbsZLspEHYZy 0IYsr52yEIe0JZoZ8aky6GaxvG5JPXWsEj5wizqaj.TdQKFD9HagkzMI2P3E XU7vZQMUGlm8OtXcV_48BYu2XsL6VF6HTvK5O43SlYEKndz6UWhsmD_Gbf6j LFdoV_zTYn4rdTilfw10VVwhI4rAw4AefloP6eMFfkVrZ5b8- Received: from [66.192.188.2] by web160906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 14:37:05 PST wqDCoEkgc2F3IHRoaXMgdGhpcyBtb3JuaW5nIG9uIG15IGRhaWx5IEF1dG93ZWVrIGVtYWlsIHVwZGF0ZS7CoCBGaWd1cmVkIHRoZSBncm91cCB3b3VsZCBlbmpveSB0aGlzLsKgIEEgZGlmZmVyZW50IHRpbWUgZm9yIHN1cmUuwqAgCsKgCmh0dHA6Ly93d3cuYXV0b3dlZWsuY29tL2FydGljbGUvMjAxMzAyMDMvR1JBTkRfQU0vMTMwMjA5OTU1P3V0bV9zb3VyY2U9UmFjaW5nMjAxMzAyMDMmdXRtX21lZGl1bT1lbmV3c2xldHRlciZ1dG1fdGVybT1hcnRpY2xlNCZ1dG1fY29udGVudD0yMDEzMDIwMy1Sb2xleC0BMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 14:37:05 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Mehl To: Triumph Friends of Subject: [Fot] Autoweek article on George Waltman Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I saw this this morning on my daily Autoweek email update. Figured the group would enjoy this. A different time for sure. http://www.autoweek.com/article/20130203/GRAND_AM/130209955?utm_source=Racing 20130203&utm_medium=enewsletter&utm_term=article4&utm_content=20130203-Rolex- 24,-racing-iron-man-Geroge-Waltman-dies&utm_campaign=awRacing Mike Mehl #46 TR4 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 4 15:55:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DFC640452 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 15:55:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9398040435 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 15:48:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.99.26] (c-76-99-29-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [76.99.29.73]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MHP006SLWFWJAC0@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 22:43:10 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-02-04_16:2013-02-04,2013-02-04,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1302040184 From: Scott Janzen Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 17:43:07 -0500 References: <1360017425.90680.YahooMailNeo@web160906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> To: Mike Mehl Cc: Triumph Friends of Subject: Re: [Fot] Autoweek article on George Waltman Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fantastic! On Feb 4, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Mike Mehl wrote: I saw this this morning on my daily Autoweek email update. Figured the group would enjoy this. A different time for sure. http://www.autoweek.com/article/20130203/GRAND_AM/130209955?utm_source=Racing 20130203&utm_medium=enewsletter&utm_term=article4&utm_content=20130203-Rolex- 24,-racing-iron-man-Geroge-Waltman-dies&utm_campaign=awRacing Mike Mehl #46 TR4 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 4 15:56:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F3F14043E for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 15:56:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f178.google.com (mail-ia0-f178.google.com [209.85.210.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A2AA40410 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 15:54:45 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ia0-f178.google.com with SMTP id y26so8579210iab.23 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 14:49:30 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=9N3gdo9KjauMmzxTDm2HI+xh9jr1eIHaAbViYdWu2EM=; b=ZTuMISlKGJ/jd4A9dJTu6V7xHCxqCnA8TuvN5flHtIqPw1w/H8HoG0vJNivGUuwkgc 2tINEWXHZTnluQhCMwttc4wZEM6PpknReh7eiswFN4j0eSyjWX8FKZbm4aSzqnwh3ZLX CKdaiSltJl3Jv8lhUD/UoL8C04zfn6uImbRd8ZfC4nOY1FkMURCNcUBDJxH9LM52wbQY WMU18y/zk36BrzW8fD6ABn2rnCrLKfnsaDY7FIwz1Hb0R6zTkFnlL+pmafNTo0uh8GVB SKjlOZKoT+As4RTjt32aFBlBIdb3cnIEc6H7UBKBFQMCEmliOfym+fto7R+fIYvUER2p pWQA== ma7mr9452016igc.26.1360018170262; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 14:49:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.209.99 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 14:49:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.209.99 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 14:49:29 -0800 (PST) References: <1360017425.90680.YahooMailNeo@web160906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 17:49:29 -0500 From: Don Marshall To: Mike Mehl Cc: Triumph Friends of Subject: Re: [Fot] Autoweek article on George Waltman Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Coincidentally, there's a white Morgan listed for sale in the latest SCCA magazine. Says it has significant history, and says the reason for sale is octogenarianism. On Feb 4, 2013 5:37 PM, "Mike Mehl" wrote: > I saw this this morning on my daily Autoweek email update. Figured the > group would enjoy this. A different time for sure. > > > http://www.autoweek.com/article/20130203/GRAND_AM/130209955?utm_source=Racing > > 20130203&utm_medium=enewsletter&utm_term=article4&utm_content=20130203-Rolex- > 24,-racing-iron-man-Geroge-Waltman-dies&utm_campaign=awRacing > > Mike Mehl #46 > TR4 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/donmarshall@nefcom.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 4 16:57:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C57D4042A for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 16:57:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc2-s19.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s19.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.94]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEAB140410 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 16:51:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from BAY405-EAS91 ([65.54.190.124]) by bay0-omc2-s19.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 4 Feb 2013 15:46:21 -0800 From: Rich Rock Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 18:47:02 -0500 To: "fot@autox.team.net" FILETIME=[D5F30F00:01CE0331] Subject: [Fot] Octogenarianism Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wow, the Morgan is up for sale. Michael Mulroney was a regular at SCCA regional races at Summit Point with that car. Tow the car to the track on an open trailer behind his pickup. Did it almost always without any help, in spite of his age. Rich Rock _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 4 17:28:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A486B40512 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 17:28:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f48.google.com (mail-oa0-f48.google.com [209.85.219.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580C640411 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 17:27:30 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-oa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id j1so5979893oag.35 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 16:22:05 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=dX1j9Hafdjg8LWTkqT7wGvMeUYARSFzRULNLn3UwCSk=; b=UdLCUJP75TTImdFtWQdbPWRSLIsFZ8QXPAnOxZrRkWluezJNfi6Xd3NcHcLQC6ViWJ gSh3pmvIKdsVDvhzMoIHtZWet/sS4mN0aXnBhRk21ZOX657gjKQT40xQPpKldmnbF81H imzD7gGp8rSKQkYo+n4pA0SpIAw93AWt0+yzN0+C9nIDeC98r+EQznNRu8e345kmAbn/ TEh3rD8NXXGJVuayKk6tdjzTbCyhK4V8o5EeCmTKrhgFdGc6Cf63CIq+fKXnnw0mSxvx CK6K9mWGovTM/G6o6SXQIbQI8b5hyIx1ggXGmrSiGUYKTtqCjaZdEgaz+XALGcnW2X4+ 5w6A== v7mr16453853obk.85.1360023725718; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 16:22:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.6] (client-69.170.103.221.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.221]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j10sm17736860obg.4.2013.02.04.16.22.03 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Feb 2013 16:22:05 -0800 (PST) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 18:21:52 -0600 References: To: FOT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Octogenarianism Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net He also sold is GN/Morgan contraption last year -- a 1926 Morgan three wheeler with a GN rear axle to make it into a single seater 4-wheeler. He gave up on the Blackburne V-twin (last time I saw him run it at Road America it was spouting steam like a teakettle) and mounted a Harley shovelhead. Duncan On Feb 4, 2013, at 5:47 PM, Rich Rock wrote: > Wow, the Morgan is up for sale. Michael Mulroney was a regular at SCCA > regional races at Summit Point with that car. Tow the car to the track on an > open trailer behind his pickup. Did it almost always without any help, in > spite of his age. > > Rich Rock _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 5 17:39:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A9540407 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 17:39:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42931403EE for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 17:26:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.36]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id wcn21k0030mlR8UA3oLjMF; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 00:20:43 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id woLi1k00p2vctGa8XoLjNG; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 00:20:43 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 16:20:45 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1360110043; bh=oBayWeag4xQLsIcNwyWOCgS8WorV/pgMuKwv/pS50nc=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Oo56+m8lGe+0IU7l5KhXK7mEuykf7sjHJLyVvyT7MHsuQGjDt2aBSRiskCk1z4r2X q8sxqtZmPMEME1hs6yWlfBkmp8nTPQw0QPi263vNX5ueZx3+wyHoPNG/Av+FgyQklC vpCvXL8Yi0HS4F/DNyuI8BgfHYAleEJs9+qM5qdD5/hAjMmb4CN81VcTuAO79LmqQ4 gpsmfVBpENpgmsSOByRKuzICD6N1+8JgtxYciHMJHod4GCrJ38hUhARH/AbyhXP/Ru PaS0lfv8C6obOz2iPfv4LUbPx2pM6EedxxWSIoMbVoKcew4GELoz2/tSmzaohixzyQ B5MHtnd4VEeCw== Subject: [Fot] Great Spitfire photo Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I think you'll like this RB https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/69282_333603943423338_1663745817_ n.jpg _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 5 21:00:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F0540E16 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 21:00:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAFA840422 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 20:24:49 -0700 (MST) a=PSrov286ou17py3pFMVYXA==:17 a=PzwunHVvOysA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=dmdbe3EVOpEA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=AcdjiWDHAAAA:8 a=OMWBxG-yrQ5I_vGVZZkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=q9mC2fbAJx8A:10 a=Y_hP0gDCUOoA:10 a=PSrov286ou17py3pFMVYXA==:117 Received: from [76.84.234.214] ([76.84.234.214:2502] helo=guinanhp) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id CB/52-06157-FBBC1115; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 03:19:28 +0000 From: "Joe Guinan" To: References: Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 21:21:57 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac4CQNSzTl0by4vnRe6uZyKiW6kyswB1qfVA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Wheels Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Friends, Thanks for the many responses to my inquiry. I've purchased a set of TR7 alloys (thanks to FOT Russ Moore for suggesting TR7 wheels and FOT Kevin Lynch for reminding me to check Craigslist), a set of "new" Magnesium Minilites (thanks to FOT Paul MacDonald for the eBay link), and will soon purchase some Minator Minilite copies (from FOT Scott Barr - who may also have the missing spare wheel for the trailer I use!) and a set of stock steelies for cost of shipping only from FOT member Christopher Bock. The TR7 wheels are off local Craigslist from one of my best friends in our local Brit Car Club. I didn't even know he had them, let alone that he was selling them. Got an offer of some other minilite copies from a North American Spitfire Squadron member - but they were pricey. He may have some other racing parts I may find use for, though. My big question - How worried should I be about cracking the Magnesium wheels? Use them for rain tires only? Thanks FOT! What a (non)-Club! Joe Guinan Fremont, NE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 13:31:24 -0600 From: "Joe Guinan" To: Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Wheels FOT, I find myself in need of wheels for a couple Spitfire vintage racers. Long story short - a "friend" who I was sub-letting some storage space from stopped paying his bill, and everything in the space was sold at auction. I lost three sets of polished aluminum dish wheels, two sets of Cosmic alloys, one set of really cool Compomotive alloys, and a couple sets of stock Spitfire wheels. That's not to mention the two Spitfires (one badly wrecked, one very restorable). Eh, life goes on... Anyway - if you have any Spitfire / GT6 wheels suitable for use on a race car that you are not using, please let me know what you need for them. I won't be able to replace everything I lost, but I need three sets of wheels pretty badly if I'm going to make the Kastner Cup in September. Joe Guinan Fremont, Nebraska joeg@neb.rr.com or Spitfirejoe@email.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 5 21:55:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD2640545 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 21:55:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm18.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm18.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE4D40434 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 21:29:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.100] by nm18.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2013 04:23:59 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.85] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2013 04:23:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1022.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2013 04:23:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 31596 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Feb 2013 04:23:58 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360124638; bh=OT7BA/aDaB/qBP9Ci5d5tiI5sJsoc8ERzL//SKImFac=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ykrVOXlsjYngY83lz4O7tX9N+lygoE7qiaJAQcIqPLW0W3LxZj3buLUdO89IaVwPIeOuKvgSmR7poZR0RLSOqWCemziF8sDIDWiiwf4Upjp8S6B0YJmY/535QuWA1XCoZJitegas7pqVr05yS/nwAARwcc7Gcnd0KpYE4YgQGXM= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xVbY2gO+wb3XJqs3xn/0jaDi3EfJ//u61BxUha8xBsdpU8auv/2/XKxIKqcX7c46ru3Gp8C0mK4CFVy1fcutrJXZnvnnrOAoK0MpfNDJ/QOglQg63U6TEDoAm10rs0q7wPc846SgRgtW77BTfh6UxRhB81AA1gQsc/UKGoYL4uU=; W_t_MFD_0tjEW1K96lYGswykPax0AKrdO7XP84OdNPnWSbij2LFwZVjTo9jF STljo0dvmkcWNjJYIbxDmJMeLRURsKugPdWbFxkGEo9S_Hco9Nxk9l9stEaB z0OOSresWUY1UTCCU1C5gYBqaU.CcqZ1i4vEsMw.U5WCsL3MWsp6GjTIBsV0 ONBHSw0EWkTCESx7KtIJHfdKoKDxXj6aZhs1uAFP.zqAkIXKULdU_g9kB6Tg eilOXK0DpqAkXFq1L7nv_ls1iaofY_cIRvTclwJ4rcubvCir0KNje9H58WEI a62HWW.oAERIVmdaSt2H2uuWsIhGNSTwdM2JewOKyTPpjiXODwnf16QhYuCz tmO.JdNBmCNl.A.issY5a7qf.W74lTDbmUgTdqdM469.kvcb5XhzX5ob110Y HbbImzPpcA8RwNb_C8WjFj2fVomMZFHvDZ3dT8nnAN2zvQxMN5g-- Received: from [99.60.75.95] by web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 20:23:58 PST SGFzIGFueW9uZSBkb25lIGFueSBleHBlcmltZW50aW5nIG9uIHRoZSBiZXN0IHBlcmZvcm1pbmcgcmVhciBjYW1iZXIgb24gYSBUUjY_wqAgClRoYW5rcywgSmltATABAQEB References: <348367C0D47E4CA183E4E4FDAD3E80CF@Bud> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 20:23:58 -0800 (PST) From: sherry robyn To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Rear camber for a TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Has anyone done any experimenting on the best performing rear camber on a TR6? Thanks, Jim _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 5 22:25:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B38440403 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 22:25:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-da0-f44.google.com (mail-da0-f44.google.com [209.85.210.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDEB040403 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 22:05:20 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-da0-f44.google.com with SMTP id z20so426064dae.31 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 20:59:56 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=I2kHLlo2w3vQrjCUIdQ5vEa+iXQ81VyqAt5G4U+suj0=; b=LCxFbcXNnPkNsC5cxSGTo2QldI0Epk0lCuESyxSEGxeVPC48U6Fl43D4u2wAHvsOYX 6+bDHmm3smDUe2w3N96REAkEkB8xQltYTQv0UWjKdHCDePaopdnRcyGHLrihZKs9q0TO wxRVcytc4lc5XbMM99aANA4aKQ6H4NQy+SDEbb+qZlC39LZWJ1TdewJzyKpZSsR/J11k N1OiOFq0UtTYuXY6tBw/d4MDeWegYFmku0NjwtAHxD8Slb6gQh1WjflpywR3wCkiG44G MErGRtluJgqGnJRI0UOjg2e7K1xgPSg+lBo9iaE3TeZ21KpeqKBfjIVlwSvHbiAsxlrE XiBQ== q10mr71756524pav.71.1360126795899; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 20:59:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.147.37 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 20:59:55 -0800 (PST) References: <348367C0D47E4CA183E4E4FDAD3E80CF@Bud> <1360124638.16216.YahooMailRC@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 20:59:55 -0800 From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" To: sherry robyn Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear camber for a TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Will be interesting to see responses. For my TR6 race car I have 800 pound springs in the rear with Spax adjustable shocks set to almost maximum firm. Reading the tire temps tells me that about 1 degree negative is correct. Many have told me that 2 to 2.5 is best. But I gotta think the tires do not lie and so I am running with 1 degree. What do you think Garmey and Babcock? On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 8:23 PM, sherry robyn wrote: > Has anyone done any experimenting on the best performing rear camber on a > TR6? > Thanks, Jim > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 5 23:58:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D474053B for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 23:58:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc1-s6.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc1-s6.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD03740422 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 23:27:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT120-W56 ([65.55.90.7]) by snt0-omc1-s6.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 5 Feb 2013 22:22:30 -0800 From: Kas Kastner To: Chuck Arnold , Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 06:22:30 +0000 References: <348367C0D47E4CA183E4E4FDAD3E80CF@Bud>, <1360124638.16216.YahooMailRC@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>, FILETIME=[57876510:01CE0432] Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear camber for a TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It depends on how it handles for your style of driving. 2 degrees sounds like way too much. One degree seems about right. When the squat or conerning roll comes in, that negative increases a lot. Thus so does the understeer (that's Mr. Slow). Tire temps are not reliable unless they are taken almost instantly when leaving the last corner. Not with a heat gun either, but must be with a needle probe. With the kind of tires used in this type of racing I don't really think they mean ANYTHING. Get some feel into it. Your ass will tell you when it is good. Unless you have swing axles negative camber is SLOW SLOW SLOW. Never be beaten by equipment > Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 20:59:55 -0800 > From: triosan@gmail.com > To: sherryjimmy6116@att.net > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear camber for a TR6 > > Will be interesting to see responses. For my TR6 race car I have 800 pound > springs in the rear with Spax adjustable shocks set to almost maximum firm. > Reading the tire temps tells me that about 1 degree negative is correct. > Many have told me that 2 to 2.5 is best. But I gotta think the tires do not > lie and so I am running with 1 degree. > > What do you think Garmey and Babcock? > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 8:23 PM, sherry robyn wrote: > > > Has anyone done any experimenting on the best performing rear camber on a > > TR6? > > Thanks, Jim > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 6 07:50:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C1D40400 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 07:50:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm4-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm4-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.129]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 10A01403D9 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 07:47:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.149] by nm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2013 14:42:06 -0000 Received: from [76.13.13.231] by tm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2013 14:42:05 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp110-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2013 14:42:05 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360161725; bh=e6d9u9XcthE6fPA3V5TOcO5TeEISW0G+C3s9sIx8RxE=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=R6nBaxQafb84AwY1DOOETrZJWOYPiZXj6Es6kxYzXclP3FHk0wPPOzRf54NVlKEcHdaMiP5ImktsKrsM7ttcXt0CTrYVrcptWYdbfs1yot3VDhUGPT8vXEeM3L3ODXEPf9N6q90O51vRxuJJRKvthEdAbj/tZSxgiofLhNNgjLw= eYSoIVND.sKpT8eYq2NCZvM_IutgCg._qykgfneHAHuUeYITcL9uD81OoMCe I.uNCKgOevibTlCzqwxIiKju4_GjLN4kMyZCmmV1.8bv6YNR4fmjIgBE2hkz UD5zxWr9zXbHZUqheJ87qpIqlQ.5cCUpXqViqib7f065Nik_j0kfFZPgPg.Q AvIJOdVCDd0tgywJzPY3qitw2y8Cw.SdOvJJ8Rhx.QjVj.qR4qcvt8ytoSyT 91_TQsD3G_uMD_LhQ5Dnz3n2cFCDBefIoFMZ37twFVSgtQq4qoYtW6tr_byo 0xESlJ2wg4wDSCU6L3stmplhIjNsrWrr808xnqN_rZ4zT9ZMKaMz7sVbFBdJ Ce3XCPRe4qkedss5b4znM9vrbLb4LSE8kOWJGmzzWl2oojI0_3LqlM.9edqa t3.ZLUzEcLZK2pcIAJ0UdJ3rCWHpwCwxKzuzJEoXf2A4MenGmnntNLMV59jm v_OB3wbEE8dSacew- Received: from [26.14.4.176] (fasttrs@198.208.251.70 with xymcookie) by smtp110-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 06 Feb 2013 06:42:05 -0800 PST References: <348367C0D47E4CA183E4E4FDAD3E80CF@Bud> <1360124638.16216.YahooMailRC@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> From: Mike Munson Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 08:42:04 -0600 To: Kas Kastner Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear camber for a TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net With bias ply tires I use 3/4 neg, 1/16 toe in with 600# Springs a 1.5 hollow adjustable sway bar and a Lincoln Locker. I have a slight bit of oversteer. Always run take-off tires from higher level drivers. (thanks Sam) I do use a probe type pyrometer. Car is 2160 to 2200 as raced. >From what I saw last spring Tony doesn't spend enough time on the ground to build much heat into his tires.:-) How much does the TR250K weigh anyway? Mike Sent from my iPhone On Feb 6, 2013, at 12:22 AM, Kas Kastner wrote: > It depends on how it handles for your style of driving. 2 degrees sounds > like way too much. One degree seems about right. When the squat or conerning > roll comes in, that negative increases a lot. Thus so does the understeer > (that's Mr. Slow). Tire temps are not reliable unless they are taken almost > instantly when leaving the last corner. Not with a heat gun either, but must > be with a needle probe. With the kind of tires used in this type of racing I > don't really think they mean ANYTHING. Get some feel into it. Your ass will > tell you when it is good. Unless you have swing axles negative camber is SLOW > SLOW SLOW. > > Never be beaten by equipment >> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 20:59:55 -0800 >> From: triosan@gmail.com >> To: sherryjimmy6116@att.net >> CC: fot@autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear camber for a TR6 >> >> Will be interesting to see responses. For my TR6 race car I have 800 pound >> springs in the rear with Spax adjustable shocks set to almost maximum firm. >> Reading the tire temps tells me that about 1 degree negative is correct. >> Many have told me that 2 to 2.5 is best. But I gotta think the tires do not >> lie and so I am running with 1 degree. >> >> What do you think Garmey and Babcock? >> >> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 8:23 PM, sherry robyn > wrote: >> >>> Has anyone done any experimenting on the best performing rear camber on a >>> TR6? >>> Thanks, Jim >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas@cox.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 6 08:04:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968F740531 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 08:04:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp08.bis6.us.blackberry.com (smtp08.bis6.us.blackberry.com [74.82.85.8]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 652E3400A5 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 07:59:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from b12.c8.bise6.blackberry ([192.168.0.112]) by srs.bis6.us.blackberry.com (8.13.7 TEAMON/8.13.7) with ESMTP id r16ErOZh018827; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 14:53:56 GMT Sensitivity: Normal To: "FOT" , "Mark J Bradakis" From: gasket.works@gte.net Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 14:53:53 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Dave Foreman would like to be a member of our Fot. He certainly has what it takes. See below. Second please. M Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: "FoodDude" Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 18:21:39 To: 'MORDY DUNST' Cc: 'Henry Frye' Subject: RE: website Hi Mordy, After I found out the Lemons/Chump TR6 would qualify for CVAR school (only), I looked further into the plan of bringing that car back to life as a vintage racer. With another TR6, and two TR4's in the stable, we determined that costs to convert any one of them into a true vintage racer would be about the same. In this case, more than the $$ I just spent buying a vintage race-ready 64 Spitfire, which is now on a truck on its way to me from out of state. The plan is to campaign that car in as many vintage race events as possible, gain license after the 4th, and hopefully enter the vintage race event supposedly to be held later this year at Circuit of the Americas (where we just spent the day with one of the Porsche teams practicing and tuning for the Grand Am event upcoming. Plans also include participation in other National events across the country this year and next. In June, after our running of the Chump Car World Series at Texas World Speedway, my (driver) wife and I will be at the FI race at Silverstone, followed by her best friends' wedding in central England, then off to the Goodwood Festival of Speed. Back home for further prep for the Vintage series. We have now: 1975 Tr6 1962 TR4 1963 TR4 1964 Spitfire Racer 1960 TR6 Chump Racer Past: 1976 TR6; 1962 TR4; 1972 Stag; 1973 Stag and I KNOW there is another Stag in my future! Members: Hill Country Triumph Club, VTR, Texas SPOKES, SCCA, Triumph Stag Club USA (wife, Betina, is South Central region mgr) I am founder and president of a healthy snack food company called BeanitosR, the Original Bean ChipT www.Beanitos.com, and she is a Realtor (who LOVES to autocross). We are combining forces with other, primarily Triumph (but other LBC folks considered) enthusiasts to co-op on garage space, and are already collaborating efforts and resources on events. Looks like there are at least 4 cars from Hill Country Triumph Club participating in the CVAR event this month. Cheers, Dave Foreman Best email address is work: dave@beanitos.com Cell: 512-576-1933 From: MORDY DUNST [mailto:gasket.works@verizon.net] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 9:34 AM To: FoodDude Cc: Henry Frye Subject: Re: website Dave> Glad to hear you are racing. Send a photo to me please and a brief few sentances summary. Mordy M.N.Dunst Gasket Works USA, LLC www.Headgasket.com Dunroth Farm, Inc Capt. Black's Beef Jerky Capt. Black's Hot Sauce 626.358.1616 ph1 626.354.1591 ph2/TEXT 626.628.3777 fax Triple R Munitions, Inc. Type 6 and 7 certified F.F.L. 626.201.9471 ph/TEXT 626.628.3777 fax GMT - 8 This e-mail may contain trade secrets or privileged information, undisclosed or otherwise confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error, you are hereby notified that any review, copying or distribution of it is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender immediately, by e-mail or by phone at 626.358.1616 and destroy the original transmittal. Thank you ----- Original Message ----- To: gasket.works@gte.net Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 6:09 AM Subject: website Hello, The upper nav links (above the horizontal line) are not clickable in Firefox. Also, we are campaigning a 1970 TR6 at Chump in June at TWS, to be followed by a cosmetic resto and vintage racing with same car. Can we hook up with FOT? Thanks, Dave Foreman Hill Country Triumph Club Triumph Stag Club USA No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6074 - Release Date: 02/01/13 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 6 08:19:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E104052E for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 08:19:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65847403C8 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 08:15:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.201]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id ECB181C0001F8; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 10:10:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msa001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msa001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.65]) by mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 9EF41E00008F; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 10:10:14 -0500 (EST) References: <1831631226-1360162436-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1654861411-@b12.c8.bise6.blackberry> To: gasket.works@gte.net, fot@autox.team.net, mark@bradakis.com From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m130.sysops.aol.com (149.174.9.21) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 06 Feb 2013 10:10:14 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 10:10:14 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1360163414; bh=VI2/xfXxx0zcPRws8MRkwc79U1ba7Xryjf9/CA8RfGg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=i1sWYHJapXnOzIeiHm5HQhwAX+XcbRhPIs5GPNs4sXV3PievDj+pxsDTCgu5Qf3/s B/NHDTWJixdhbgOip+vDi3jqbmDQm8b+bC+dH5Uo59tBe6RM3e8mICAY4zo+MjyEz4 hxPyJzGxEr1gguH+f93Dyx7hl3yJYHVwPBso9Z/8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c95112725657f9 Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Of course! Welcome aboard! Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: gasket.works To: FOT ; Mark J Bradakis Sent: Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:59 am Subject: [Fot] Nomination Dave Foreman would like to be a member of our Fot. He certainly has what it takes. See below. Second please. M Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: "FoodDude" Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 18:21:39 To: 'MORDY DUNST' Cc: 'Henry Frye' Subject: RE: website Hi Mordy, After I found out the Lemons/Chump TR6 would qualify for CVAR school (only), I looked further into the plan of bringing that car back to life as a vintage racer. With another TR6, and two TR4's in the stable, we determined that costs to convert any one of them into a true vintage racer would be about the same. In this case, more than the $$ I just spent buying a vintage race-ready 64 Spitfire, which is now on a truck on its way to me from out of state. The plan is to campaign that car in as many vintage race events as possible, gain license after the 4th, and hopefully enter the vintage race event supposedly to be held later this year at Circuit of the Americas (where we just spent the day with one of the Porsche teams practicing and tuning for the Grand Am event upcoming. Plans also include participation in other National events across the country this year and next. In June, after our running of the Chump Car World Series at Texas World Speedway, my (driver) wife and I will be at the FI race at Silverstone, followed by her best friends' wedding in central England, then off to the Goodwood Festival of Speed. Back home for further prep for the Vintage series. We have now: 1975 Tr6 1962 TR4 1963 TR4 1964 Spitfire Racer 1960 TR6 Chump Racer Past: 1976 TR6; 1962 TR4; 1972 Stag; 1973 Stag and I KNOW there is another Stag in my future! Members: Hill Country Triumph Club, VTR, Texas SPOKES, SCCA, Triumph Stag Club USA (wife, Betina, is South Central region mgr) I am founder and president of a healthy snack food company called BeanitosR, the Original Bean ChipT www.Beanitos.com, and she is a Realtor (who LOVES to autocross). We are combining forces with other, primarily Triumph (but other LBC folks considered) enthusiasts to co-op on garage space, and are already collaborating efforts and resources on events. Looks like there are at least 4 cars from Hill Country Triumph Club participating in the CVAR event this month. Cheers, Dave Foreman Best email address is work: dave@beanitos.com Cell: 512-576-1933 From: MORDY DUNST [mailto:gasket.works@verizon.net] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 9:34 AM To: FoodDude Cc: Henry Frye Subject: Re: website Dave> Glad to hear you are racing. Send a photo to me please and a brief few sentances summary. Mordy M.N.Dunst Gasket Works USA, LLC www.Headgasket.com Dunroth Farm, Inc Capt. Black's Beef Jerky Capt. Black's Hot Sauce 626.358.1616 ph1 626.354.1591 ph2/TEXT 626.628.3777 fax Triple R Munitions, Inc. Type 6 and 7 certified F.F.L. 626.201.9471 ph/TEXT 626.628.3777 fax GMT - 8 This e-mail may contain trade secrets or privileged information, undisclosed or otherwise confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error, you are hereby notified that any review, copying or distribution of it is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender immediately, by e-mail or by phone at 626.358.1616 and destroy the original transmittal. Thank you ----- Original Message ----- To: gasket.works@gte.net Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 6:09 AM Subject: website Hello, The upper nav links (above the horizontal line) are not clickable in Firefox. Also, we are campaigning a 1970 TR6 at Chump in June at TWS, to be followed by a cosmetic resto and vintage racing with same car. Can we hook up with FOT? Thanks, Dave Foreman Hill Country Triumph Club Triumph Stag Club USA No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6074 - Release Date: 02/01/13 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 6 08:50:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9492A403F6 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 08:50:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s47.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s47.snt0.hotmail.com [65.54.61.98]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6A1403DD for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 08:39:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT141-W34 ([65.55.90.73]) by snt0-omc2-s47.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 6 Feb 2013 07:33:41 -0800 From: Tony and Annie Garmey To: , Kas Kastner Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 07:33:41 -0800 References: <348367C0D47E4CA183E4E4FDAD3E80CF@Bud>, <1360124638.16216.YahooMailRC@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>, , , <514F0AFA-8A8B-4851-A226-C16833BFB95A@yahoo.com> FILETIME=[57BB1840:01CE047F] Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear camber for a TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The "K" Car Hoosier speedsters450-500 lb rear springs5/8-3/4 ? solid rear bar (the org. with ground flat spot from the sebring wheel failure still there)Camber ? toe..see abovequaife LSDcar weighs 2200 give or take.Car does have it's handling issues. Still has the rubber/poly bushings etc. but it is what is...... > From: fasttrs@yahoo.com > Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 08:42:04 -0600 > To: kaskas@cox.net > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear camber for a TR6 > > With bias ply tires I use 3/4 neg, 1/16 toe in with 600# Springs a 1.5 hollow > adjustable sway bar and a Lincoln Locker. I have a slight bit of oversteer. > Always run take-off tires from higher level drivers. (thanks Sam) > I do use a probe type pyrometer. > Car is 2160 to 2200 as raced. > From what I saw last spring Tony doesn't spend enough time on the ground to > build much heat into his tires.:-) > How much does the TR250K weigh anyway? > > Mike > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 6, 2013, at 12:22 AM, Kas Kastner wrote: > > > It depends on how it handles for your style of driving. 2 degrees sounds > > like way too much. One degree seems about right. When the squat or > conerning > > roll comes in, that negative increases a lot. Thus so does the understeer > > (that's Mr. Slow). Tire temps are not reliable unless they are taken almost > > instantly when leaving the last corner. Not with a heat gun either, but > must > > be with a needle probe. With the kind of tires used in this type of racing > I > > don't really think they mean ANYTHING. Get some feel into it. Your ass > will > > tell you when it is good. Unless you have swing axles negative camber is > SLOW > > SLOW SLOW. > > > > Never be beaten by equipment > >> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 20:59:55 -0800 > >> From: triosan@gmail.com > >> To: sherryjimmy6116@att.net > >> CC: fot@autox.team.net > >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear camber for a TR6 > >> > >> Will be interesting to see responses. For my TR6 race car I have 800 pound > >> springs in the rear with Spax adjustable shocks set to almost maximum > firm. > >> Reading the tire temps tells me that about 1 degree negative is correct. > >> Many have told me that 2 to 2.5 is best. But I gotta think the tires do > not > >> lie and so I am running with 1 degree. > >> > >> What do you think Garmey and Babcock? > >> > >> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 8:23 PM, sherry robyn > > wrote: > >> > >>> Has anyone done any experimenting on the best performing rear camber on a > >>> TR6? > >>> Thanks, Jim > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> fot@autox.team.net > >>> > >>> http://www.fot-racing.com > >>> > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskas@cox.net > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs@yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 6 09:54:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8891E406AF for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 09:54:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-da0-f41.google.com (mail-da0-f41.google.com [209.85.210.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 313B8403E0 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 09:49:12 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-da0-f41.google.com with SMTP id e20so754871dak.0 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 08:43:48 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=oYEdG6hUhQzAYiwMqp3jIWhl+qEKSg3yv8sf8VxHTho=; b=Xk1Smv+6D1sxVpu0fkq3nTvDBaavpLfw7yMJz4fIafo/vLlxURIk2rg7dxpJG5t7Ki K4ml1ddVcqBvKFGHKY20OF4FTqhhqSoBBkxs4JJgGWpc+bXmLoP/DWI/JH7V+44zTxQx uroVNCGxyj+YEdG1MUcq6u7jTS8k7sG8K7R0AB5ZkYgDDjHI+cYwM2GsmCR+0PHXiK6o pR3CirlmtxbAxouFhW3yj0NXH/MrHuGGrG31djH+G7jewr5FsLMU237D3lq6PNMJXlJj i+JcEuSMrA555lOxWKNx66XYtYZctQM1H3GLzUEE8Ob6X6OxW3r6Ap5+NjewlnVejhVr XLcw== Wed, 06 Feb 2013 08:43:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.147.37 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 08:43:48 -0800 (PST) References: <1831631226-1360162436-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1654861411-@b12.c8.bise6.blackberry> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 08:43:48 -0800 From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" To: gasket.works@gte.net Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone who races a TR6 gets my vote! On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 6:53 AM, wrote: > Dave Foreman would like to be a member of our Fot. He certainly has what > it takes. See below. Second please. > M > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > -----Original Message----- > From: "FoodDude" > Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 18:21:39 > To: 'MORDY DUNST' > Cc: 'Henry Frye' > Subject: RE: website > > Hi Mordy, > > After I found out the Lemons/Chump TR6 would qualify for CVAR school > (only), > I looked further into the plan of bringing that car back to life as a > vintage racer. With another TR6, and two TR4's in the stable, we > determined > that costs to convert any one of them into a true vintage racer would be > about the same. In this case, more than the $$ I just spent buying a > vintage race-ready 64 Spitfire, which is now on a truck on its way to me > from out of state. The plan is to campaign that car in as many vintage > race > events as possible, gain license after the 4th, and hopefully enter the > vintage race event supposedly to be held later this year at Circuit of the > Americas (where we just spent the day with one of the Porsche teams > practicing and tuning for the Grand Am event upcoming. Plans also include > participation in other National events across the country this year and > next. In June, after our running of the Chump Car World Series at Texas > World Speedway, my (driver) wife and I will be at the FI race at > Silverstone, followed by her best friends' wedding in central England, then > off to the Goodwood Festival of Speed. Back home for further prep for the > Vintage series. > > > > We have now: > > 1975 Tr6 > > 1962 TR4 > > 1963 TR4 > > 1964 Spitfire Racer > > 1960 TR6 Chump Racer > > Past: 1976 TR6; 1962 TR4; 1972 Stag; 1973 Stag and I KNOW there is another > Stag in my future! > > > > Members: Hill Country Triumph Club, VTR, Texas SPOKES, SCCA, Triumph Stag > Club USA (wife, Betina, is South Central region mgr) > > > > I am founder and president of a healthy snack food company called > BeanitosR, > the Original Bean ChipT www.Beanitos.com, and she is a Realtor (who LOVES > to autocross). > > > > We are combining forces with other, primarily Triumph (but other LBC folks > considered) enthusiasts to co-op on garage space, and are already > collaborating efforts and resources on events. Looks like there are at > least 4 cars from Hill Country Triumph Club participating in the CVAR event > this month. > > > > Cheers, > > Dave Foreman > > Best email address is work: dave@beanitos.com > > Cell: 512-576-1933 > > > > From: MORDY DUNST [mailto:gasket.works@verizon.net] > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 9:34 AM > To: FoodDude > Cc: Henry Frye > Subject: Re: website > > > > Dave> > > > > Glad to hear you are racing. Send a photo to me please and a brief few > sentances summary. > > > > > > Mordy > > > > M.N.Dunst > Gasket Works USA, LLC > www.Headgasket.com > Dunroth Farm, Inc > Capt. Black's Beef Jerky > Capt. Black's Hot Sauce > 626.358.1616 ph1 > 626.354.1591 ph2/TEXT > 626.628.3777 fax > > > > Triple R Munitions, Inc. > Type 6 and 7 certified F.F.L. > 626.201.9471 ph/TEXT > 626.628.3777 fax > GMT - 8 > This e-mail may contain trade secrets or privileged information, > undisclosed > or otherwise confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in > error, you are hereby notified that any review, copying or distribution of > it is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender immediately, by e-mail > or by phone at 626.358.1616 and destroy the original transmittal. Thank > you > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > To: gasket.works@gte.net > > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 6:09 AM > > Subject: website > > > > Hello, > > The upper nav links (above the horizontal line) are not clickable in > Firefox. > > > > Also, we are campaigning a 1970 TR6 at Chump in June at TWS, to be followed > by a cosmetic resto and vintage racing with same car. Can we hook up with > FOT? > > > > Thanks, > > Dave Foreman > > Hill Country Triumph Club > > Triumph Stag Club USA > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6074 - Release Date: 02/01/13 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 6 10:24:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DBBB40C00 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 10:24:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm24.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm24.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.183]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5CE403E9 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 10:24:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.147] by nm24.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2013 17:18:49 -0000 Received: from [98.139.173.41] by tm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2013 17:18:49 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp125-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2013 17:18:49 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360171129; bh=0wvwHqTgGZ8BUa+kJ8VcKkA0g71RuaeM1JC0skevBew=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Subject:References:From:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:Cc:To:Mime-Version:X-Mailer; b=rK2lqdJHDCGNCK1ouDhzsquIdnu7VeN079H58B0Sfa7qzZRwAqZqGwiuo5rBRxr4svFfUnUhK7PEjNjXzl9hpQEuqW6SCTjHGatbaB1omel6xnSKCzikIsteBOenzk97QJcQ/I8XUTs42K25Tcz1y2oZ/8STbLQ2uoBhlONGX+Y= HRsGIdYd2p4m4KfTqsrMyCky67tttRjmnlAzpm.wXsDFcTOBs6shziKlOUQ_ qsFrXFXAPEoGKmYlSgE2jacsfYhOfnMmX6hdx4LgE_BraMrjIdS6PB8KmSvL Mqjb0XecoZrpvzIACGh1ulrLh4O06crziAkz3xVfAPdmi6yoLrDeUahUM4eJ 3at4y7Fvy1tDWw6Nh0jKof7gXywIx19DUXmLX7taEioHc7mlXoz5nGwt6wdg 4HujmTQLLDY6qrpkUs4ifyjNFfJ9GFG2MKkUEPFeK.xHwi_e_vnVxaQjqGah lZDi8y9laRfEVLKLTo7iZZGvPdxCwejmx4H2oSJ1zLdi1GX689.wBKNIYxnv z3H0bPwHnB6SfKWg00HUKZpQ8Y.R.wY0mFxgu2_VmRadXYgTT7yrK.W7L9mn 8On8_Q5_W Received: from [26.14.4.176] (fasttrs@198.208.251.70 with xymcookie) by smtp125-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 06 Feb 2013 17:18:49 +0000 UTC References: <1831631226-1360162436-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1654861411-@b12.c8.bise6.blackberry> From: Mike Munson Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 11:00:40 -0600 To: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone that races a TR6 gets my condolences! Welcome !! Mike #28 EP TR6 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 6, 2013, at 10:43 AM, "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" wrote: > Anyone who races a TR6 gets my vote! > > On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 6:53 AM, _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 6 11:08:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E8240536 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 11:08:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263B3403DE for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 11:06:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r16I0tO5026822; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 13:00:55 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 13:00:55 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley References: <348367C0D47E4CA183E4E4FDAD3E80CF@Bud> <1360124638.16216.YahooMailRC@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear camber for a TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi - 2 degrees negative may work for radials, but that's too much camber for bias tires. Plus, as Kas pointed out, the dynamic camber change on the TR IRS is pretty big... regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 6 11:27:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD584055D for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 11:27:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s32.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s32.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEEAC40067 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 11:18:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU403-EAS420 ([65.55.116.9]) by blu0-omc1-s32.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 6 Feb 2013 10:13:22 -0800 References: <348367C0D47E4CA183E4E4FDAD3E80CF@Bud> <1360124638.16216.YahooMailRC@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> From: Sam Halkias Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 13:13:15 -0500 To: "Robert M. Lang" FILETIME=[A665A300:01CE0495] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear camber for a TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I cured this problem with an entire re-worked double A-arm rear suspension on my SCCA car. But on my other race TR6's I would actually set my rear camber with a half degree POSITIVE camber to help keep the car from excessive negative camber under power. Sam Halkias On Feb 6, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "Robert M. Lang" wrote: > Hi - 2 degrees negative may work for radials, but that's too much camber for bias tires. Plus, as Kas pointed out, the dynamic camber change on the TR IRS is pretty big... > > regards, > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/atr6racer@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 6 11:54:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE214054A for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 11:54:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62BFC403EE for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 11:52:01 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=1d2gmQKPDWOpkh7o34iGvw==:17 a=wdq1DNBrAjgA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=plJ0dBhV7xEA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=sskR1B85AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=Sm-U9xrwWNMkv45S2YAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=p5ZAGxalUHUA:10 a=1d2gmQKPDWOpkh7o34iGvw==:117 Received: from [166.137.113.252] ([166.137.113.252:50590] helo=[10.64.1.167]) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 37/D0-22260-C05A2115; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 18:46:37 +0000 References: <1831631226-1360162436-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1654861411-@b12.c8.bise6.blackberry> From: Bob Kramer Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 12:46:32 -0600 To: Mike Munson Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Shame on me for not nominating Dave. He picked up the Lemon's TR6 from me Saturday and told me about the Spitfire so I could pass the info on to another potential racer. Then he decided to buy the Spit too! The TR6 was languishing unused, having completed two Lemons races and Dave will put it to good use. He is taking the CVAR driving school at the end if this month. With him and Robert Mackenzie we will have 4 Spits, 4 TR4's, a GT6, a TR3 and two TR powered Morgans active in TXFoT. Bob Kramer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 6, 2013, at 11:00 AM, Mike Munson wrote: > Anyone that races a TR6 gets my condolences! > Welcome !! > > Mike > #28 EP TR6 > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 6, 2013, at 10:43 AM, "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" > wrote: > >> Anyone who races a TR6 gets my vote! >> >> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 6:53 AM, > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 6 13:14:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386DC40549 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 13:14:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm15.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm15.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.216]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 923E7406B0 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 13:13:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.194] by nm15.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2013 20:08:14 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.96] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2013 20:08:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1001.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2013 20:08:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 75995 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Feb 2013 20:08:14 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360181294; bh=44A0SYovnlKTGDLpkrEndB679e1PKXhC/aOnElLbJN0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Or75SeT2oSkqcU4tp1Mf9HtIexk5wpid5il1iQFSGYx8UsJ3iV2MI5KpauHnvWDj6ZH2PZaDPHK25Al8u7VUHZMQkV/L/swRlieasrLeVTHNWYa+Cv4gA/fr5yNbQlDVwZDfKFH0BmubwtQZYXE17kTfvhprqvFIYtf4nWuQ/zI= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yj2D1QCwRmlTiHVSOARNWjaSc1hjwXkg08cJjgeldlbdF9NGTFGYlG8b+FDJs7/4Usv0LxtkVc5J7p6GhFg3cqNoGD0T34iyoMhKYR93WF2QgIfCSKcq27HKN4kiMklJGmmfj4Gc/iZ53ywk4D/FMJ0B8a+TVrAEefIaWkio5g4=; LepvCx7b0phY8kblCAfe_oLLqTg2byLDNNK5L90MXaPx5RQsR.oNkeUKIOHL V2QkPg6TnHKrIakp7kkiv.9wrzcyswAEKzGOjyBg442lh4zMoJawjALiIt_c p6y8HhynRBzCFPj5qfO0lr9lVJl9R2N5ff7MBQSFPuOxvcoXy..tV0qLoR09 dWyXIuRnEcRPNNFhb41GNTbqZkbXvaXayzjQqpYeq8l7Y.SHkUo463NDa_Ln hbOvdJdz48JcPQmnMded7ASZO_8xuQ79gEpaXygZ2wh5UF8__tR4dntHla.d KJHSGbxBtx.vbTAvKXnHA6AWfJ.v5Reg1ZpFsjvLu4vByO7HZUB1S1jXf9vH vQTAfo19DO5j_Gil6_LnEE4Tqs5AZBnUa05zNF6RdtPw_ad8C0C7spXUMsNa em_F8nJWxR0LQtM5lMaNu48df4tI5tdlcToDsrNtuBCSObQQw4vc5JcSnEza D30IJHaRXd8Rq741pO1hMxBs4cmfSGXVzb8HyFfUkKCXGj01yGVigfN.RfFZ LogACBE2y7qKw5MYYHvBfUjB1.7ELYBtw.etXO2GVehqbo9l82zoT_4YsBxt zvimB7k9ttVYo6izMR5jSIqbOJqAEMd51VWa2848tUwsU3fK4 Received: from [68.165.86.214] by web182203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 12:08:14 PST YW5kIGhlJ3MgZnJvbSBURVhBUyEKCjJuZCEKCkJvYmJ5CgoKCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwpGcm9tOiAiZ2Fza2V0LndvcmtzQGd0ZS5uZXQiIDxnYXNrZXQud29ya3NAZ3RlLm5ldD4KVG86IEZPVCA8Zm90QGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0PjsgTWFyayBKIEJyYWRha2lzIDxtYXJrQGJyYWRha2lzLmNvbT4KU2VudDogV2VkLCBGZWJydWFyeSA2LCAyMDEzIDg6NTk6MzMgQU0KU3ViamVjdDogW0ZvdF0gTm9taW5hdGlvbgoKRGF2ZSBGb3JlbWFuIHdvdWxkIGxpa2UgdG8gYmUgYSBtZW0BMAEBAQE- References: <1831631226-1360162436-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1654861411-@b12.c8.bise6.blackberry> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 12:08:14 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: gasket.works@gte.net Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net and he's from TEXAS! 2nd! Bobby ________________________________ From: "gasket.works@gte.net" To: FOT ; Mark J Bradakis Sent: Wed, February 6, 2013 8:59:33 AM Subject: [Fot] Nomination Dave Foreman would like to be a member of our Fot. He certainly has what it takes. See below. Second please. M Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: "FoodDude" Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 18:21:39 To: 'MORDY DUNST' Cc: 'Henry Frye' Subject: RE: website Hi Mordy, After I found out the Lemons/Chump TR6 would qualify for CVAR school (only), I looked further into the plan of bringing that car back to life as a vintage racer. With another TR6, and two TR4's in the stable, we determined that costs to convert any one of them into a true vintage racer would be about the same. In this case, more than the $$ I just spent buying a vintage race-ready 64 Spitfire, which is now on a truck on its way to me from out of state. The plan is to campaign that car in as many vintage race events as possible, gain license after the 4th, and hopefully enter the vintage race event supposedly to be held later this year at Circuit of the Americas (where we just spent the day with one of the Porsche teams practicing and tuning for the Grand Am event upcoming. Plans also include participation in other National events across the country this year and next. In June, after our running of the Chump Car World Series at Texas World Speedway, my (driver) wife and I will be at the FI race at Silverstone, followed by her best friends' wedding in central England, then off to the Goodwood Festival of Speed. Back home for further prep for the Vintage series. We have now: 1975 Tr6 1962 TR4 1963 TR4 1964 Spitfire Racer 1960 TR6 Chump Racer Past: 1976 TR6; 1962 TR4; 1972 Stag; 1973 Stag and I KNOW there is another Stag in my future! Members: Hill Country Triumph Club, VTR, Texas SPOKES, SCCA, Triumph Stag Club USA (wife, Betina, is South Central region mgr) I am founder and president of a healthy snack food company called BeanitosR, the Original Bean ChipT www.Beanitos.com, and she is a Realtor (who LOVES to autocross). We are combining forces with other, primarily Triumph (but other LBC folks considered) enthusiasts to co-op on garage space, and are already collaborating efforts and resources on events. Looks like there are at least 4 cars from Hill Country Triumph Club participating in the CVAR event this month. Cheers, Dave Foreman Best email address is work: dave@beanitos.com Cell: 512-576-1933 From: MORDY DUNST [mailto:gasket.works@verizon.net] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 9:34 AM To: FoodDude Cc: Henry Frye Subject: Re: website Dave> Glad to hear you are racing. Send a photo to me please and a brief few sentances summary. Mordy M.N.Dunst Gasket Works USA, LLC www.Headgasket.com Dunroth Farm, Inc Capt. Black's Beef Jerky Capt. Black's Hot Sauce 626.358.1616 ph1 626.354.1591 ph2/TEXT 626.628.3777 fax Triple R Munitions, Inc. Type 6 and 7 certified F.F.L. 626.201.9471 ph/TEXT 626.628.3777 fax GMT - 8 This e-mail may contain trade secrets or privileged information, undisclosed or otherwise confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error, you are hereby notified that any review, copying or distribution of it is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender immediately, by e-mail or by phone at 626.358.1616 and destroy the original transmittal. Thank you ----- Original Message ----- To: gasket.works@gte.net Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 6:09 AM Subject: website Hello, The upper nav links (above the horizontal line) are not clickable in Firefox. Also, we are campaigning a 1970 TR6 at Chump in June at TWS, to be followed by a cosmetic resto and vintage racing with same car. Can we hook up with FOT? Thanks, Dave Foreman Hill Country Triumph Club Triumph Stag Club USA No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6074 - Release Date: 02/01/13 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 6 14:28:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A51354053A for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 14:28:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 420C0403EC for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 14:20:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52D0A0ABC for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 14:17:03 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 14:17:03 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15.1 To: FOT References: <1831631226-1360162436-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1654861411-@b12.c8.bise6.blackberry> Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Those of you who know of my passion for cooking will not be surprised to know I added him just because of the 'FoodDude' reference, Triumphs not considered ;-) mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 08:09:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9014540563 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 08:09:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f48.google.com (mail-ee0-f48.google.com [74.125.83.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE6B440554 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 08:01:44 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ee0-f48.google.com with SMTP id t10so1351338eei.7 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 06:56:15 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=TgGX4pZE/N8bNNiNtG674m7yV5Zbgw8EcS5R7bBpvhc=; b=LE5THDIM/2Ncw3YWMq4yvcAOcTYgKsecYqU96HhkwIOdCPVfQny+v9TdYTy90LDNx6 Tgu/mH2LWk5Z2NLNZ6WUJy4+3VylNPwTpUiOEakLvY9wla18KoECMA7ehZAaCUKN16EA 6uxc4ZHHjDBFyHHylVpA4NxQfJFtpE95/r97dqojFtVXrlhtwqdIxvXgjAavKj2kBjPi ANjzhIzqOQhOkpN9fToIMj/g2vjIXW1HNkHArAP5lRv3NtPZjZMRrYw3zKvjLSd6gvDS mCRGRfHbKNHLhE2LFZHen0V4hXLIp5p5UmbuMcmNYkeWPyffAjnYC2e5CHMWHTgDvX3t wCXw== j47mr4713064eep.28.1360248975503; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 06:56:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home ([2.171.200.55]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a1sm17163252eep.2.2013.02.07.06.56.12 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Feb 2013 06:56:13 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <1831631226-1360162436-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1654861411-@b12.c8.bise6.blackberry> <5112C84F.3040701@bradakis.com> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 15:56:15 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac4EsDKZFpVnz/JIQk+5ryeTvbg4dwAkvryg Content-Language: de Subject: [Fot] My new tow car.... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net http://www.hummerforum.de/gallery/image.php?mode=medium&album_id=225&image_i d=1403 Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 20:13:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D987240E6B for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 20:13:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3631240E4C for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 20:13:30 -0700 (MST) a=xuSzmQoJ1jvkAIfTlZRNrg==:17 a=bADDkjKAeCQA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=2RxqJi5uwBcA:10 a=7AP4Ey34rXD71Bfzt4gA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=0mULeLvM14BQcFdaDbEA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=xuSzmQoJ1jvkAIfTlZRNrg==:117 Received: from [70.114.170.59] ([70.114.170.59:52995] helo=BlakePC) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id E6/70-01418-F0C64115; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 03:07:59 +0000 From: "Greg & Alison Blake" To: "'Triumph Friends of'" Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 21:08:02 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac4FqYF14nxhEAz8RhS+Is04j5rhNw== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] TR coolant pressure/flow Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT Anyone out there every gauged coolant pressure on the TR block? I'd love to see the results. I am going through the process of adding a surge (expansion) tank on my TR3 and I am starting to wonder if I am plumbing the return line in the correct spot. I have installed the tank in the battery box with a line entering the top of the tank that originates at the heater port in the rear of the head. For the return line, off the bottom of the expansion tank, I have added a welded fitting in my top radiator hose between the thermostat housing and the radiator to accept the return line. I use a cross flow Chevy style radiator so I have a metal radiator pipe between the thermostat housing and the intake for the radiator. I thought it would be better to introduce the hot coolant from the expansion tank back into the radiator vs dumping directly back into suction side of the water pump via the return heater port. My thinking was that I should not introduce hot coolant into the suction side of the pump and re circulate it back thru the block. The way I have it plumbed (if it works), the hot coolant from the expansion tank will first go thru the radiator then into the pump and back thru the block. I am guessing that downstream of the thermostat housing (I use a thermostat) the pressure will be lower than at the back of the block. My questions are: Has anyone measured pressure between the thermostat housing and the radiator? Has anyone measured pressure at the back of the head heater port? What is the difference? Am I going to get coolant to flow from my expansion tank back into the top radiator hose or is the pressure higher in that top hose than the back of the block? Would it be better to plumb the return line into the return heater port? Thanks, Greg _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 20:27:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E23040E68 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 20:27:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F79640568 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 20:20:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.22.217]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MHV007EKT0CQS00@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 21:14:37 -0600 (CST) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "MadMarx" , References: <1831631226-1360162436-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1654861411-@b12.c8.bise6.blackberry> <5112C84F.3040701@bradakis.com> <002701ce0543$4905aee0$db110ca0$@com> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 22:14:34 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] My new tow car.... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Chris, thanks for the info. Now if my grandmother Gossmann was still alive, she could translate it for me! Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "MadMarx" To: Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 9:56 AM Subject: [Fot] My new tow car.... > http://www.hummerforum.de/gallery/image.php?mode=medium&album_id=225&image_i > d=1403 > > Cheers > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 21:55:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42BB840E4C for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 21:55:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.55.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B720240E25 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 21:48:01 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 11947 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2013 04:42:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO just64.justhost.com) (173.254.28.64) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 2013 04:42:26 -0000 Received: from [173.22.113.197] (port=56603 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1U3fn7-0005OF-PF; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 21:42:26 -0700 Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 22:42:21 -0600 To: "Greg & Alison Blake" , "'Triumph Friends of'" From: Tony Drews References: <000001ce05a9$81b5cbb0$85216310$@rr.com> {sentby:smtp auth 173.22.113.197 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] TR coolant pressure/flow Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You should see in the neighborhood of 30 psi on the engine side of the t-stat housing and in the vicinity of the radiator cap's pressure relief value on the upper radiator hose, probably around 10 psi. Tony Drews At 09:08 PM 2/7/2013, Greg & Alison Blake wrote: >FOT > > > >Anyone out there every gauged coolant pressure on the TR block? I'd love to >see the results. > > > >I am going through the process of adding a surge (expansion) tank on my TR3 >and I am starting to wonder if I am plumbing the return line in the correct >spot. I have installed the tank in the battery box with a line entering the >top of the tank that originates at the heater port in the rear of the head. >For the return line, off the bottom of the expansion tank, I have added a >welded fitting in my top radiator hose between the thermostat housing and >the radiator to accept the return line. I use a cross flow Chevy style >radiator so I have a metal radiator pipe between the thermostat housing and >the intake for the radiator. I thought it would be better to introduce the >hot coolant from the expansion tank back into the radiator vs dumping >directly back into suction side of the water pump via the return heater >port. My thinking was that I should not introduce hot coolant into the >suction side of the pump and re circulate it back thru the block. The way I >have it plumbed (if it works), the hot coolant from the expansion tank will >first go thru the radiator then into the pump and back thru the block. I am >guessing that downstream of the thermostat housing (I use a thermostat) the >pressure will be lower than at the back of the block. > > > >My questions are: > >Has anyone measured pressure between the thermostat housing and the >radiator? > >Has anyone measured pressure at the back of the head heater port? > >What is the difference? > >Am I going to get coolant to flow from my expansion tank back into the top >radiator hose or is the pressure higher in that top hose than the back of >the block? > >Would it be better to plumb the return line into the return heater port? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Greg >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 09:44:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23FC940338 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 09:44:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F332403BA for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 09:34:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 743691C00007D; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:29:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mte002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mte002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.236.69]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 45781E000087; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:29:04 -0500 (EST) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:29:03 -0500 (EST) To: ablake2@austin.rr.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1360340944; bh=9Fuc02dMDt40dMrZ2/fyjGYB5vb25kP7zKCwllVmIr4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sfIqWTunKb47W/KY90aPF1PNl0tFgrLAFpIHY5atqBE99rOKaqRBQYYNbcLxQFP7K I7VKc9nY71QdugbadROEsThftP8w8uuGAsMZkijxyxgDXdCbb/tSr1ca3qt7mV8rsD W+lQhkrmRrZO3jysX8Awsc2bvOhPpQoQAdPWZuIA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c7511527d06fd2 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR coolant pressure/flow Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Greg... While Tony Drews provided some bench mark numbers for you, I can'l help but chime in with the importance of a good "bleed" technique for every time you drain and refill your system. If you do not bleed properly, you will end up dealing with air pockets and bubbles. Kas has told me that even when he had trusted assistants on his race teams...'filling the cooling system' was one thing he always did himself. That's saying something, and is an indication of its importance with our TR engines. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 12:34:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E8840EBF for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 12:34:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C596240EA0 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 12:33:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.99.26] (c-76-99-29-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [76.99.29.73]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MHX0019A23BM720@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 19:28:24 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-02-08_07:2013-02-08,2013-02-08,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=3 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1302080175 From: Scott Janzen Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:28:22 -0500 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Triumph powered Devin on ebay - other makes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net looks like a pretty car for strong money -$69k will by a few TRs! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1954-Devin-Special-Triumph-TR4-Chassis-and-TR4-Engine-/290855977437?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item43b85e01dd#ht_2468wt_1182 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 12:48:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4314C40EB3 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 12:48:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from col0-omc2-s6.col0.hotmail.com (col0-omc2-s6.col0.hotmail.com [65.55.34.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E901D40E97 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 12:46:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from COL401-EAS11 ([65.55.34.72]) by col0-omc2-s6.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:41:11 -0800 From: Rich Rock Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:41:12 -0500 To: Scott Janzen , "fot@autox.team.net" FILETIME=[3F81A490:01CE0634] Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph powered Devin on ebay - other makes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Interesting intake manifold modification! Rich Rock ________________________________ From: Scott Janzen Sent: 2/8/2013 2:29 PM To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Triumph powered Devin on ebay - other makes looks like a pretty car for strong money -$69k will by a few TRs! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1954-Devin-Special-Triumph-TR4-Chassis-and-TR4 -Engine-/290855977437?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item43b85e01dd#ht_2468wt_1182 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rikrock@live.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 14:51:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 348EF40EC5 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:51:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm17.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm17.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6059C40EA8 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:50:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.104] by nm17.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 21:45:19 -0000 Received: from [67.195.15.62] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 21:45:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp103.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 21:45:18 -0000 ly.vwWYRIicNgUD2avEhZUOzluLOnLgUgTBWjwRPtlL2yuaIIMU2wpo4GHem kTiKUrbyoAlLtHeeNr.PZ6I5t204mgMlMEPLq.LB0hkYvmTAW_cXshTipY80 JmWj_0CZh8V9e63RSDwQbYCB5ifAJB1VOmwciLbd0ywJrzNm7p521ja1ReTZ 4aXHKnUexYHN2SDolmA4qrWNTbrt8RsZEamHypjbEJs_e9KuQcoulnH5Z4tR upXLB.FgGOl_qLf0d0bsJIuX1UH165wVl9hzv4JyaLmYZV6kMXPznRlyz0En PYSOXefIoSgV.L6ZaxJzSLV3ao9ootYKR3l8IG.YWUxu_Jy7b1US2HCjmqi9 UthXrL3gwjq2inkTyDa2y3Q91WFZyGNzr.w1D3CPPTJlJnJ3CE29rTEzYolj dB5gzBQsDmP_aHyh3goRJhmtP1D4OOzfAHQJZa0tbNluKxRmbryRK4Ctt3u0 LZUXBKSZTSlUOIUO5C_bwfiAEv0W6.Q-- Received: from [192.168.1.77] (cartravel@99.98.58.190 with plain) by smtp103.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Feb 2013 13:45:18 -0800 PST Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 15:45:29 -0600 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <000001ce05a9$81b5cbb0$85216310$@rr.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR coolant pressure/flow Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Greg, I don't have an answer to your question regarding pressures, but I had a similar arrangement in my TR3. The Chevy style radiator is a great idea, because it eliminates the worry of overheating. I cut off the radiator fill cap and plugged it off, since it is unreachable anyway. I put the expansion tank in (from Pegasus I believe) so that I would have a way to fill it. I wanted to have water flowing thru the expansion tank to effectively increase the volume of water in the system. I went with the return to the suction side of the pump with 1/8 inch pipe and small diameter hose to keep the flow rate down. I drilled and tapped the thermostat housing for a drain valve so I could bleed all the air out. It worked very well and was one of the best upgrades I did to the car. Some would argue that you should have a cap to regulate the pressure downstream from the thermostat, but I found that it worked fine with something like a 7 lb cap on the expansion tank. You would think this would open up due to pumping pressure. I think if I did it over again, I'd just put a cap somewhere downstream from the thermostat and eliminate the expansion tank. I could probably find some photos if you'd like to see them. Larry Young On 2/7/2013 9:08 PM, Greg & Alison Blake wrote: > Anyone out there every gauged coolant pressure on the TR block? I'd love to > see the results. > > > > I am going through the process of adding a surge (expansion) tank on my TR3 > and I am starting to wonder if I am plumbing the return line in the correct > spot. I have installed the tank in the battery box with a line entering the > top of the tank that originates at the heater port in the rear of the head. > For the return line, off the bottom of the expansion tank, I have added a > welded fitting in my top radiator hose between the thermostat housing and > the radiator to accept the return line. I use a cross flow Chevy style > radiator so I have a metal radiator pipe between the thermostat housing and > the intake for the radiator. I thought it would be better to introduce the > hot coolant from the expansion tank back into the radiator vs dumping > directly back into suction side of the water pump via the return heater > port. My thinking was that I should not introduce hot coolant into the > suction side of the pump and re circulate it back thru the block. The way I > have it plumbed (if it works), the hot coolant from the expansion tank will > first go thru the radiator then into the pump and back thru the block. I am > guessing that downstream of the thermostat housing (I use a thermostat) the > pressure will be lower than at the back of the block. > > > > My questions are: > > Has anyone measured pressure between the thermostat housing and the > radiator? > > Has anyone measured pressure at the back of the head heater port? > > What is the difference? > > Am I going to get coolant to flow from my expansion tank back into the top > radiator hose or is the pressure higher in that top hose than the back of > the block? > > Would it be better to plumb the return line into the return heater port? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Greg > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel@pobox.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 15:06:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6EBE40F5C for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 15:06:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mailrtr01.ntelos.net (mailrtr01.ntelos.net [216.12.0.101]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA8D40EA8 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 15:01:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from webmail.ntelos.net (webmail.lumos.net [209.145.64.96]) by mailrtr01.ntelos.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id r18LtnLP004105; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 21:55:49 GMT Received: from d-128-234-204.bootp.Virginia.EDU (d-128-234-204.bootp.Virginia.EDU [128.143.234.204]) by webmail.ntelos.net with HTTP (SquirrelMail authenticated user rjl6n@cstone.net); Fri, 8 Feb 2013 16:55:49 -0500 References: <75A04974-A2B3-4753-9ADC-031102204EE0@me.com> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 16:55:49 -0500 From: "R. John Lye" To: "Scott Janzen" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph powered Devin on ebay - other makes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bidding has ended... John On Fri, February 8, 2013 2:28 pm, Scott Janzen wrote: > looks like a pretty car for strong money -$69k will by a few TRs! > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1954-Devin-Special-Triumph-TR4-Chassis-and-TR4-Engine-/290855977437?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item43b85e01dd#ht_2468wt_1182 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 15:37:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E6242267 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 15:37:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail202c2.megamailservers.com (mail202c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A819240EB4 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 15:28:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.251.78.253] (83.sub-174-237-33.myvzw.com [174.237.33.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail202c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r18MN2aP016923 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 8 Feb 2013 17:23:04 -0500 References: <000001ce05a9$81b5cbb0$85216310$@rr.com> <511571F9.6050202@pobox.com> From: John Hasty Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 17:23:00 -0500 To: Larry Young a=FHPrTfXdf_cA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=I+j7Eg90tm87k6Zx/ospqQ==:17 a=ybZZDoGAAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=b7yGZ4PnsZzOgiHi-wUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=qIVjreYYsbEA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=I+j7Eg90tm87k6Zx/ospqQ==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR coolant pressure/flow Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I now have the car & can attest that it works well. Like Kas told us, though, you need to take your time & make sure you he ALL the air out. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 8, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Larry Young wrote: > Greg, > I don't have an answer to your question regarding pressures, but I had a similar arrangement in my TR3. The Chevy style radiator is a great idea, because it eliminates the worry of overheating. I cut off the radiator fill cap and plugged it off, since it is unreachable anyway. I put the expansion tank in (from Pegasus I believe) so that I would have a way to fill it. I wanted to have water flowing thru the expansion tank to effectively increase the volume of water in the system. I went with the return to the suction side of the pump with 1/8 inch pipe and small diameter hose to keep the flow rate down. I drilled and tapped the thermostat housing for a drain valve so I could bleed all the air out. It worked very well and was one of the best upgrades I did to the car. Some would argue that you should have a cap to regulate the pressure downstream from the thermostat, but I found that it worked fine with something like a 7 lb cap on the expansion tank. You would think this would open up due to pumping pressure. I think if I did it over again, I'd just put a cap somewhere downstream from the thermostat and eliminate the expansion tank. I could probably find some photos if you'd like to see them. > Larry Young > > On 2/7/2013 9:08 PM, Greg & Alison Blake wrote: >> Anyone out there every gauged coolant pressure on the TR block? I'd love to >> see the results. >> >> >> I am going through the process of adding a surge (expansion) tank on my TR3 >> and I am starting to wonder if I am plumbing the return line in the correct >> spot. I have installed the tank in the battery box with a line entering the >> top of the tank that originates at the heater port in the rear of the head. >> For the return line, off the bottom of the expansion tank, I have added a >> welded fitting in my top radiator hose between the thermostat housing and >> the radiator to accept the return line. I use a cross flow Chevy style >> radiator so I have a metal radiator pipe between the thermostat housing and >> the intake for the radiator. I thought it would be better to introduce the >> hot coolant from the expansion tank back into the radiator vs dumping >> directly back into suction side of the water pump via the return heater >> port. My thinking was that I should not introduce hot coolant into the >> suction side of the pump and re circulate it back thru the block. The way I >> have it plumbed (if it works), the hot coolant from the expansion tank will >> first go thru the radiator then into the pump and back thru the block. I am >> guessing that downstream of the thermostat housing (I use a thermostat) the >> pressure will be lower than at the back of the block. >> >> >> My questions are: >> >> Has anyone measured pressure between the thermostat housing and the >> radiator? >> >> Has anyone measured pressure at the back of the head heater port? >> >> What is the difference? >> >> Am I going to get coolant to flow from my expansion tank back into the top >> radiator hose or is the pressure higher in that top hose than the back of >> the block? >> >> Would it be better to plumb the return line into the return heater port? >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Greg >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel@pobox.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 15:37:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD0A42261 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 15:37:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail168c2.megamailservers.com (mail168c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00CEE40EB4 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 15:30:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.251.78.253] (83.sub-174-237-33.myvzw.com [174.237.33.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail168c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r18MONXS024823 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 8 Feb 2013 17:24:25 -0500 References: <000001ce05a9$81b5cbb0$85216310$@rr.com> <511571F9.6050202@pobox.com> From: John Hasty Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 17:24:18 -0500 To: Larry Young a=FHPrTfXdf_cA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=I+j7Eg90tm87k6Zx/ospqQ==:17 a=ybZZDoGAAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=WW7TweKULGulPISzqn8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=qIVjreYYsbEA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=I+j7Eg90tm87k6Zx/ospqQ==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR coolant pressure/flow Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net PS: Larry, I think the cap is 14 lbs. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 8, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Larry Young wrote: > Greg, > I don't have an answer to your question regarding pressures, but I had a similar arrangement in my TR3. The Chevy style radiator is a great idea, because it eliminates the worry of overheating. I cut off the radiator fill cap and plugged it off, since it is unreachable anyway. I put the expansion tank in (from Pegasus I believe) so that I would have a way to fill it. I wanted to have water flowing thru the expansion tank to effectively increase the volume of water in the system. I went with the return to the suction side of the pump with 1/8 inch pipe and small diameter hose to keep the flow rate down. I drilled and tapped the thermostat housing for a drain valve so I could bleed all the air out. It worked very well and was one of the best upgrades I did to the car. Some would argue that you should have a cap to regulate the pressure downstream from the thermostat, but I found that it worked fine with something like a 7 lb cap on the expansion tank. You would think this would open up due to pumping pressure. I think if I did it over again, I'd just put a cap somewhere downstream from the thermostat and eliminate the expansion tank. I could probably find some photos if you'd like to see them. > Larry Young > > On 2/7/2013 9:08 PM, Greg & Alison Blake wrote: >> Anyone out there every gauged coolant pressure on the TR block? I'd love to >> see the results. >> >> >> I am going through the process of adding a surge (expansion) tank on my TR3 >> and I am starting to wonder if I am plumbing the return line in the correct >> spot. I have installed the tank in the battery box with a line entering the >> top of the tank that originates at the heater port in the rear of the head. >> For the return line, off the bottom of the expansion tank, I have added a >> welded fitting in my top radiator hose between the thermostat housing and >> the radiator to accept the return line. I use a cross flow Chevy style >> radiator so I have a metal radiator pipe between the thermostat housing and >> the intake for the radiator. I thought it would be better to introduce the >> hot coolant from the expansion tank back into the radiator vs dumping >> directly back into suction side of the water pump via the return heater >> port. My thinking was that I should not introduce hot coolant into the >> suction side of the pump and re circulate it back thru the block. The way I >> have it plumbed (if it works), the hot coolant from the expansion tank will >> first go thru the radiator then into the pump and back thru the block. I am >> guessing that downstream of the thermostat housing (I use a thermostat) the >> pressure will be lower than at the back of the block. >> >> >> My questions are: >> >> Has anyone measured pressure between the thermostat housing and the >> radiator? >> >> Has anyone measured pressure at the back of the head heater port? >> >> What is the difference? >> >> Am I going to get coolant to flow from my expansion tank back into the top >> radiator hose or is the pressure higher in that top hose than the back of >> the block? >> >> Would it be better to plumb the return line into the return heater port? >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Greg >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel@pobox.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 16:23:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B894225F for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 16:23:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm30.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm30.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.189]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8B140EB4 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 16:22:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.148] by nm30.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 23:16:57 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.239] by tm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 23:16:57 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1048.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 23:16:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 78409 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Feb 2013 23:16:56 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360365416; bh=ob9bfyP/StBO15i2G/cKqsQKdXrq1PJFDbOWixwnEfU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=29oqYinJtHhjRrOT2L+0olAhugp4zpzxliaU297FzG5Jt1KZ2jgBmnxyvm+1F+NkvfFO5ZYu4/W9cN9b7vKXdeHB2fXXIpG5M/Kl+N2D1sIyL+fD48c3p7/CQugbJ7VVvXK/1OWSyhxIKUN/S+2pEX+NpYIRMjGHHRsue/Mqd0o= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WLiif3vkt54bIIjY0q+aFHRs0yEK27PKMECAboUMFaFhnQi9aloJQll22Mvz9OOb31UV7g0LhIbt8AAi4JZ69TGBz46OcR3yw1Fmd7P6xfTadE6FZn7/obZ9W8qEKJjXzXH0EENvs8/4bW11ikvjAoVPI0+TyIzGMLZHQTpalac=; 3F0ySQDBddKw6j1fWRuJIoVDYfgFPZ2mpz89a7mGYKaSaClodhMeqTxW7cY7 NBgAF93_zj2KaGz8zs9XS8rliLKEFU.YqDVeEA2RMH_RiPgPRvM2ohG.1PJw rjJwLy4tmpSZ8WP030x4Sk758MQX3kBKqEugmaJ4pYlXZndv6rTfJzVxHdL0 Wer21GOUcrs6zYhTnQZ26eAYroM62rU6FFO5FGX.lvdVU6FITxF_US1_5.EL v7sXkSdhUuD9y001zNnsoy3aU5L.wLE87FKdqSjWviZ._.4OQN4KYVaP02Qt s0OCq5OPTDk4vYTiXrAT6W3dAviIC2.9If0KWeSZPLfbyJBrPCbVDPnEn4Hd nR5gG1GZHXikdN5rxa7Ng54UsnMUSS4npVU2RfjgJr35opD_Cs35TQU.G4PC Xk0C2h39yL6lDmp9NkshoiexLXW92y5jaHRdcSYc2acRMLHZ_Wm10g3Ys8E2 VXkQNb11Eco9mKBkW3LlL_XZxvBLfgkqA8b28zKBAIslxqSX54hFD6UfT Received: from [66.192.188.2] by web160904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 15:16:56 PST R3JlZzsKSSB1c2VkIGEgRm9yZCBSYWRpYXRvciBmcm9tIEplZ3MuwqAgSSBhbHNvIHVzZWQgdGhlIGV4cGFuc2lvbiB0YW5rIGZyb20gSmVncyBhbmQgcHV0IGl0IHdoZXJlIHRoZSBiYXR0ZXJ5IGJveCBpcy7CoCBJIHBsdW1iZWQgb3V0IG9mIHRoZSBiYWNrIG9mIHRoZSBoZWFkIGludG8gdGhlIHRhbmsgYW5kIG91dCBvZiB0aGUgdGFuayBpbnRvIHRoZSB3YXRlcnB1bXAuwqAgSSBoYXZlIG5ldmVyIGhhZCB3YXRlciB0ZW1wcyBvdmVyIDE4MEYgZXZlbiBvbiA5NSBkZWdyZWUgZGF5cy7CoCBJIGZpbGwgdXABMAEBAQE- References: <000001ce05a9$81b5cbb0$85216310$@rr.com> <511571F9.6050202@pobox.com> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 15:16:56 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Mehl To: Larry Young , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR coolant pressure/flow Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Greg; I used a Ford Radiator from Jegs. I also used the expansion tank from Jegs and put it where the battery box is. I plumbed out of the back of the head into the tank and out of the tank into the waterpump. I have never had water temps over 180F even on 95 degree days. I fill up the radiator first. Cap it off and then fill up the expansion tank to about 1" from the top and I am good to go. This gets the whole system full. I have the expansion tank because the radiator sits lower than a stock radiator and it allows me to get the system full of water. I use Parker 801 push lok hose to plumb the tank. If you like email me off line and I can send you some photos. Mike Mehl ________________________________ From: Larry Young To: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, February 8, 2013 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR coolant pressure/flow Greg, I don't have an answer to your question regarding pressures, but I had a similar arrangement in my TR3. The Chevy style radiator is a great idea, because it eliminates the worry of overheating. I cut off the radiator fill cap and plugged it off, since it is unreachable anyway. I put the expansion tank in (from Pegasus I believe) so that I would have a way to fill it. I wanted to have water flowing thru the expansion tank to effectively increase the volume of water in the system. I went with the return to the suction side of the pump with 1/8 inch pipe and small diameter hose to keep the flow rate down. I drilled and tapped the thermostat housing for a drain valve so I could bleed all the air out. It worked very well and was one of the best upgrades I did to the car. Some would argue that you should have a cap to regulate the pressure downstream from the thermostat, but I found that it worked fine with something like a 7 lb cap on the expansion tank. You would think this would open up due to pumping pressure. I think if I did it over again, I'd just put a cap somewhere downstream from the thermostat and eliminate the expansion tank. I could probably find some photos if you'd like to see them. Larry Young On 2/7/2013 9:08 PM, Greg & Alison Blake wrote: > Anyone out there every gauged coolant pressure on the TR block? I'd love to > see the results. > > > I am going through the process of adding a surge (expansion) tank on my TR3 > and I am starting to wonder if I am plumbing the return line in the correct > spot. I have installed the tank in the battery box with a line entering the > top of the tank that originates at the heater port in the rear of the head. > For the return line, off the bottom of the expansion tank, I have added a > welded fitting in my top radiator hose between the thermostat housing and > the radiator to accept the return line. I use a cross flow Chevy style > radiator so I have a metal radiator pipe between the thermostat housing and > the intake for the radiator. I thought it would be better to introduce the > hot coolant from the expansion tank back into the radiator vs dumping > directly back into suction side of the water pump via the return heater > port. My thinking was that I should not introduce hot coolant into the > suction side of the pump and re circulate it back thru the block. The way I > have it plumbed (if it works), the hot coolant from the expansion tank will > first go thru the radiator then into the pump and back thru the block. I am > guessing that downstream of the thermostat housing (I use a thermostat) the > pressure will be lower than at the back of the block. > > > My questions are: > > Has anyone measured pressure between the thermostat housing and the > radiator? > > Has anyone measured pressure at the back of the head heater port? > > What is the difference? > > Am I going to get coolant to flow from my expansion tank back into the top > radiator hose or is the pressure higher in that top hose than the back of > the block? > > Would it be better to plumb the return line into the return heater port? > > > Thanks, > > > Greg > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel@pobox.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mike.mehl@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 17:55:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FFA040F5F for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 17:55:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f46.google.com (mail-pa0-f46.google.com [209.85.220.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5253740EC5 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 17:51:08 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id kp14so2320760pab.19 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 16:45:32 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:x-originating-ip:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=KKqByeclbkrPZyTKyhokr7+ACABNDxOsvjoV/2EogR8=; b=ppWLGBrBRsRqCOaTKGkFSnvP+2B+3nTpDPVKnuI8gOQTO1cIp1zAyCGXn1Rwi8CCE9 fK/SgeKdSWghnNHLVMjPVN8rVglg652kTi0hLt4ILehkxDfiL4F/yF3X3V+LyNtfLStd ETm/dzbb64MoazEs3rIEMJfVF02D1Wr5Mf80ltlXq9qCernJ7bqTsp8AHfeAP5DUndfN J7yMqL6UF7OMXHCGXb7MN1knUUYzUH6YGnOmH30pMzMQ7DpQ0U0GLIqP9RTlA7oMNV9t LTz1MPeqohwDl4UUa124FM8AtwG7R9zs+fBrynrNcpofaNcIOLgCWIMqwX5cexyO+H2Z vy1A== r9mr22812194paz.14.1360370732193; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 16:45:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.253.104 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 16:45:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 18:45:32 -0600 From: Jason Ostrowski To: triumph friends Subject: [Fot] 1965 Le Mans Works Spitfire Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wow! I have not seen this video before. This is a great professional documentary from '65. (nice) I think you will like this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpepDRqcFCo Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 18:42:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA94442274 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 18:42:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm22-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm22-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3917240EDF for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 18:35:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.102] by nm22.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2013 01:30:00 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.67] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2013 01:30:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1004.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2013 01:30:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 590 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Feb 2013 01:29:59 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360373399; bh=q7fFYVBKFXQHrFBj+hN1efAXBV0tsgAmRV9Pzygsuc4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sCwSd+yY3WdD3xOCPiN36MHLzh+lx6LvP+AiEbgcn5rRCISpzVuuJOLbNZ1qQREsZMBh0OWnu/ELtDO760LeLO2MKHyMGglcJkojoywEVs7oV3g8JNoOicU1tW0R+dCfx6GZbuNPj2Y+IC6h7WCjnN2mWNEP2ryLrjBVrwo97bI= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KUhiFtld0xvFMMSbH/guxX7IlLhBscS0FJKb/4J4c8nBk1cHWEPbEQKtG3gtKa9GZPD5cRjLTeYM7I+7u5OkxrpABvR38fE0vv9B48329F80A3+4+i/LyKiqBIVDlQK2WWpeM5L6qs5FHNTMxiZBzC0+kUV37CTr79VvsIaKPZo=; jURnn7q7lZ4sJ6clUDktDa7jI6W0JdbAOx8zbWFEV2YBxqtlL5dEBXQSW.sA kN_i6cLqvJ5Cb6lhCAVRqoqypnVZzDV_Us4OdhNTJvhVc8k1o5EJSEL7wdan hUEs3A5hWOPds6vmT2BfRrjsv8TQLRCDOg4rYn2zNg.dKU58LlGeFxtyOA2f zDRHSbQULo5Fop_aPlkQSfMdGgxOozqoElcnRgUjvY8ecFlwCWjgxCKIno8d PQeuVirKQoTt1Aj5XZj.xIaWl1Et4Dv__ShGw4oHyP2FVlLTUYYlI6YH2TAq Hzracv9JSqYhv.MNIuMUVxYWxxgR.LsYz.oCZWqODKTsYHke4OtpIaBqFb1M Oksn.y4nk7QjrCCOVN.RmFeY10vtJihMrOVzmGh3KJinjEat6kBRPPnipfRy H_OJVU26FkZ59AL79tn.TeBGbrTh8N__WbePf_ySc8lB2wF6.LZaw4FJcELP a834fUARY1IW7PwlOk0kbnP1H2MfVVX_ArKGubF29rRW0nbLRjhWDluO.Cep HEeCfo6FTdQxWn50pCZ1ASWQ58X1I7Dn1o06LdwnHOKu_IOiMAfcMzAXo7OR tLyNEmFM- Received: from [99.60.75.95] by web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 17:29:59 PST VGhhbmtzLCB0aGF0IHdhcyB2ZXJ5IGludGVyZXN0aW5nIGFuZCBmdW4gdG8gd2F0Y2guwqAgVGhlIGNvbW1lbnRhdG9yIG11c3QgaGF2ZSAKYmVlbiBhIHBvcHVsYXIgQnJpdGlzaCB2b2ljZSBvZiB0aGUgdGltZSBhcyBJIGJlbGlldmUgaGUgZGlkIG1vdG9yY3ljbGUgdHJpYWxzIAphcyB3ZWxsLgoKCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KRnJvbTogSmFzb24gT3N0cm93c2tpIDxqYXNvbkBtdWx0aXZpbnRhZ2UuY29tPgpUbzogdHJpdW1waCBmcmllbmRzIDxmb3RAYXV0b3gudGVhbS4BMAEBAQE- References: Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 17:29:59 -0800 (PST) From: sherry robyn To: Jason Ostrowski , triumph friends Subject: Re: [Fot] 1965 Le Mans Works Spitfire Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks, that was very interesting and fun to watch. The commentator must have been a popular British voice of the time as I believe he did motorcycle trials as well. ________________________________ From: Jason Ostrowski To: triumph friends Sent: Fri, February 8, 2013 4:50:42 PM Subject: [Fot] 1965 Le Mans Works Spitfire Video Wow! I have not seen this video before. This is a great professional documentary from '65. (nice) I think you will like this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpepDRqcFCo Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sherryjimmy6116@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 19:29:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D696E42257 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 19:29:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D946940321 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 19:21:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.89]) by qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id y1zq1k0031vN32cAE2Ftlf; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 02:15:53 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id y2Fs1k00M2vctGa8i2Ft0S; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 02:15:53 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "Jason Ostrowski" , "triumph friends" References: Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 18:15:52 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1360376153; bh=mXNmbngP1b3gNpihzZRksTgtyFsG9zPtRICUZkQ2ji0=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Nk8qtMcu2p/s+DY1zdow29mVVxQ/3p45PFqx/Ocver7wQYUbf7VTqZSti7/SDbRqO S1mEf2wpf2Bj1ZL72CE4yka6c+SJOB8q7RBkMl6tOnAWo0uGnfnWlii8cofZ74nXKs D9XbEkT73akRS1DyQ8szeD8hEkK0NJgumRhzZScSlTqZNy8ZYtEJXsfnpnye4utReK AtJoQ/8PSOS4qKT+2iyQ9RUFeXsrPUCw6GDM7CR56MnUjdgJArfNruVMNLVrzHP6o6 Ksvw+vdFFsojnuiZExVtdzxUzjZwrG8g8vHofOCre5R+rnQ45cZtWimoqg9IEuCcIk dst8xIUNoBU8w== Subject: Re: [Fot] 1965 Le Mans Works Spitfire Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net thanks Jason,,great video..I posted it on Facebook RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Ostrowski" To: "triumph friends" Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 4:45 PM Subject: [Fot] 1965 Le Mans Works Spitfire Video > Wow! > I have not seen this video before. > This is a great professional documentary from '65. (nice) > I think you will like this! > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpepDRqcFCo > > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 21:48:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6CE4226D for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 21:48:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com (imr-db01.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B6942259 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 21:42:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6085E380000A5 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 23:36:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dee002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dee002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.54.69]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 2F644E000082 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 23:36:50 -0500 (EST) References: To: fot@autox.team.net From: robertten1@aol.com Received: from 96.233.64.253 by webmail-m066.sysops.aol.com (64.12.241.43) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 08 Feb 2013 23:36:49 -0500 Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 23:36:50 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1360384610; bh=bDjrQjpU9XfFwelvBjXVu+zCIZm+N5Ng/rf+gf1q4Ms=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=i4rmKhASSWJmG5JX1R7jpEVTPGovjdDd5EKUxCdee0K8BvIVYyz8YJdGak7yWy5xe AMZjVWyGoxHjlE/wk9IjLJ6Y9CEsp66Z6V7jK7Kle/eETuNrt5Zx7sOGssF8Ch+qSI kxuahs5CfSHeDCMeZcG455L0QaKgjRTn9N0gOxgo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c5115d2625fef Subject: Re: [Fot] 1965 Le Mans Works Spitfire Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Have watched this on You Tube on several occasions, just makes me anxious to get behind the wheel of my Spit GT out onto an autocross course. Current project on my car is replicating windows for the doors as on the factory cars. I'll be a bit drier at damp events with windows in the doors. Cheers, Bob T, '64 Spitfire GT autocrosser -----Original Message----- From: Jason Ostrowski To: triumph friends Sent: Fri, Feb 8, 2013 7:50 pm Subject: [Fot] 1965 Le Mans Works Spitfire Video Wow! have not seen this video before. his is a great professional documentary from '65. (nice) think you will like this! ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpepDRqcFCo Jason Ostrowski riendly Ghost Racing ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 9 08:03:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6935240E37 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 08:03:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc2-s9.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s9.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.84]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D8B4054C for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 07:59:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from BAY164-DS4 ([65.54.190.124]) by bay0-omc2-s9.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 9 Feb 2013 06:53:29 -0800 From: "Terry Stetler" To: "triumph friends" References: Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 09:53:29 -0500 Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 09:53:29 -0500 FILETIME=[38F00DA0:01CE06D5] Subject: Re: [Fot] 1965 Le Mans Works Spitfire Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks, Great find!!!!!! Race cars from the day were just so elegant, by and large. Terry Stetler ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 7:45 PM Subject: [Fot] 1965 Le Mans Works Spitfire Video Wow! I have not seen this video before. This is a great professional documentary from '65. (nice) I think you will like this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpepDRqcFCo Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tlizzard@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 9 13:01:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DB640E9D for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 13:01:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF2440E92 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:15:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.22.217]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MHW00EZ5YG4K120@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 12:09:41 -0600 (CST) From: "Bill Tobin" To: , , References: <10696.7536775c.3e4681cf@aol.com> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 13:09:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR coolant pressure/flow Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I agree, Bill. On my TR6 engine, where the the heater pipe comes out of the head at the rear, I removed the pipe and installed a petcock for bleeding out air. Easy to do and it seems to work. Of course, I don't have a heater in the car. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR coolant pressure/flow > Greg... > > While Tony Drews provided some bench mark numbers for you, I can'l help > but > chime in with the importance of a good "bleed" technique for every time > you > drain and refill your system. If you do not bleed properly, you will end > up dealing with air pockets and bubbles. Kas has told me that even when > he > had trusted assistants on his race teams...'filling the cooling system' > was > one thing he always did himself. That's saying something, and is an > indication of its importance with our TR engines. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 9 13:01:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3440440E94 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 13:01:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm21.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm21.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F2E040E9F for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 12:31:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.103] by nm21.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 19:26:17 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.68] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 19:26:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1005.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 19:26:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 3425 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Feb 2013 19:26:16 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360351576; bh=I7sTdbMAsqUT9+CIGtrAUtkjfiNnrpYrGYy4PJJQ/Bs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ws1oMFJePUwiQqYmth40UYbbB17S/d1Vff60we/Vhpwkdm9fjsHUgkLIlpdjQPVGVDON2pkTbn49dOe31hlqoUN4ZIgNmWwT5f4yWrNrNZ8QtbbOyZXwW5U/IM81UzjT6r5ouZZpW7xynz6ciqeztqwBzwKo1ySTCCDPkEKJSLo= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=B24AdLglpwka8RPywD7GX6y3KDpkp9a7v7ue8WStu4Ui/BFH53AGMvClvPT+EUP7eXo8c/sDHY8Fker0sEqXc7UU9st3ZhwqzVnRhWsW5Gfy3WfpJpwdTHXotpKalEoVVXBThj2XrqiyPPM62ipDJSo3pjevO5RGEUu5Hniojyg=; 846SmN4d_W0IUXDHihF0Qv858jgPKDDBCl6p3S392gsbfJiIXvvpMBVHPX_s iotQVMwV6Kk8UzyFxyV2DmguD1ReQUpTXDvMZS5ckhqJ51I9mZxkI1j2be3a tL2p.67psclR0LAZG0FW8mrjhNZrfNUqCd0Nqcmvc.kElfbHabeBZ15CH9nx DeW9xuPz6jvQDrhH4SZMAENZMUcGq9hazBrbXdfGtaKnvAyoXz5O9T0wfvsL 6BI8TJtFmtncFvdkXLxD9yPDRwUxPmASabXFdShjJNkDAtyWyCTgXzvpvvwl aNhFCmrVHOwWsBSUAmZJPAmi.OidtOT5CuMZNPaRvP55PQlt8A6HaQJ7vlaW 4n7tm3tFFuIfRpR6nj_bWX5q8hBVhlS1447YT6bdg9RRgX_ek7BqT6WGHzIh 6MEDXSye5pX2SvTROpE7rMHYBm2g5WcoCl58IafAxxF5ZT0lx8SuAdktPWtT VHmz0SekuxlHLe3Xq4PGmxNLAinhKVFr3bgFCiQqnFYxC3prJUKE4dQ-- Received: from [99.60.75.95] by web184803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 11:26:16 PST QmlsbCwgY2FuIHlvdSBvdXRsaW5lIGEgZ29vZCBwcm9jZWR1cmUgZm9yIGdldHRpbmcgYWxsIG9mIHRoZSBhaXIgb3V0IG9mIHRoZSAKc3lzdGVtP8KgIEppbQoKCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KRnJvbTogIkJpbGxEZW50aW5AYW9sLmNvbSIgPEJpbGxEZW50aW5AYW9sLmNvbT4KVG86IGFibGFrZTJAYXVzdGluLnJyLmNvbTsgZm90QGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0ClNlbnQ6IEZyaSwgRmVicnVhcnkgOCwgMjAxMyA4OjM5OjE2IEFNClN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBbRm90XSBUUiBjb29sYW4BMAEBAQE- References: <10696.7536775c.3e4681cf@aol.com> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:26:16 -0800 (PST) From: sherry robyn To: BillDentin@aol.com, ablake2@austin.rr.com, fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR coolant pressure/flow Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bill, can you outline a good procedure for getting all of the air out of the system? Jim ________________________________ From: "BillDentin@aol.com" To: ablake2@austin.rr.com; fot@autox.team.net Sent: Fri, February 8, 2013 8:39:16 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR coolant pressure/flow Greg... While Tony Drews provided some bench mark numbers for you, I can'l help but chime in with the importance of a good "bleed" technique for every time you drain and refill your system. If you do not bleed properly, you will end up dealing with air pockets and bubbles. Kas has told me that even when he had trusted assistants on his race teams...'filling the cooling system' was one thing he always did himself. That's saying something, and is an indication of its importance with our TR engines. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sherryjimmy6116@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 9 13:02:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E2F40564 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 13:02:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc3-s45.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc3-s45.snt0.hotmail.com [65.54.51.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D0640EB4 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 17:01:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT141-W35 ([65.55.90.136]) by snt0-omc3-s45.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 8 Feb 2013 15:55:54 -0800 From: Tony and Annie Garmey To: , Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 15:55:53 -0800 References: <75A04974-A2B3-4753-9ADC-031102204EE0@me.com>, <7ff7fe8e881b55b91ffd439b5c4f1f2c.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net> FILETIME=[D4F43A60:01CE0657] Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph powered Devin on ebay - other makes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'd say well bought. Hope the new owner get to enjoy it. > Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 16:55:49 -0500 > From: rjl6n@cstone.net > To: sjanzen@me.com > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph powered Devin on ebay - other makes > > Bidding has ended... > > John > > On Fri, February 8, 2013 2:28 pm, Scott Janzen wrote: > > looks like a pretty car for strong money -$69k will by a few TRs! > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1954-Devin-Special-Triumph-TR4-Chassis-and-TR4 -Engine-/290855977437?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item43b85e01dd#ht_2468wt_1182 > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 9 20:24:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A2340654 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 20:24:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from sitemail.siteprotect.com (sitemail.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.155]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4549340433 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 20:21:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by app05.sm.onr.chicago.hostway (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1ED710205AD for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 21:16:11 -0600 (CST) To: Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 21:16:11 -0600 From: Charly Subject: Re: [Fot] TR coolant pressure/flow Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }Most persons around here racing TR's take the heater outlet from the head and route it back to the water pump for increased flow through the back of the head. My self included on my TR6. Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 On Fri 08/02/13 10:09 AM , "Bill Tobin" william.tobin31@verizon.net sent: I agree, Bill. On my TR6 engine, where the the heater pipe comes out of the head at the rear, I removed the pipe and installed a petcock for bleeding out air. Easy to do and it seems to work. Of course, I don't have a heater in the car. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR coolant pressure/flow > Greg... > > While Tony Drews provided some bench mark numbers for you, I can'l help > but > chime in with the importance of a good "bleed" technique for every time > you > drain and refill your system. If you do not bleed properly, you will end > up dealing with air pockets and bubbles. Kas has told me that even when > he > had trusted assistants on his race teams...'filling the cooling system' > was > one thing he always did himself. That's saying something, and is an > indication of its importance with our TR engines. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > > > http://www.fot-racing.com [5] > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html [6] > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive [7] > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums [8] > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ [9] _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com [12] Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html [13] Archive: http://www.team.net/archive [14] Forums: http://www.team.net/forums [15] Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ [16] Links: ------ [5] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fot-racing .com [6] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Fdonate.html [7] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Farchive [8] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Fforums [9] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net %2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Ffot%2Fwilliam.tobin31%40verizon.net [12] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fot-racing .com [13] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Fdonate.html [14] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Farchive [15] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Fforums [16] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net %2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Ffot%2Fcharly%40mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 10 15:39:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A11C40EBD for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:39:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A52A4040F for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 19:24:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.22.217]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MHZ00KJ7FROPV90@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 20:19:01 -0600 (CST) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "sherry robyn" , , , References: <10696.7536775c.3e4681cf@aol.com> <1360351576.44487.YahooMailRC@web184803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2013 21:18:58 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR coolant pressure/flow Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I have a large plastic funnel that fits snugly in my rad fill opening. I start pouring water in with both the petcocks open on the block; the one on the side behind the headers, and the one on top where the heater pipe was. Because the funnel is about a foot tall and doesn't leak coolant out where the neck goes into the rad, I have a volume of coolant in the funnel that extends above the block by several inches. And a little more gravity helping. When coolant comes out the lower petcock, I close it and wait for coolant to come out the top one, then close it. Seems to work ok. When the system is full and the partly full funnel is pulled out of the rad, some fluid will slop around, but it's easily cleaned up. Does this make sense? Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "sherry robyn" To: ; ; Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR coolant pressure/flow > Bill, can you outline a good procedure for getting all of the air out of > the > system? Jim > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "BillDentin@aol.com" > > To: ablake2@austin.rr.com; fot@autox.team.net > Sent: Fri, > February 8, 2013 8:39:16 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR coolant pressure/flow > Greg... > > While Tony Drews provided some bench mark numbers for you, I can'l > help but > chime in with the importance of a good "bleed" technique for every > time you > drain and refill your system. If you do not bleed properly, you > will end > up dealing with air pockets and bubbles. Kas has told me that even > when he > had trusted assistants on his race teams...'filling the cooling > system' was > one thing he always did himself. That's saying something, and is > an > indication of its importance with our TR engines. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sherryjimmy6116@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 10 15:39:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E02C40EB9 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:39:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7264640447 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 07:49:08 -0700 (MST) a=eiJRm6rqGn8EJvXxHSdv4Q==:17 a=IYbAqjljJL4A:10 a=JaVjRZk8lsUA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=j9iBkKDs4lYA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=QEps4B0vAAAA:8 a=HHGDD-5mAAAA:8 a=pjdaNNIBAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=nq_iPTBNAAAA:8 a=AAvYLDLOAAAA:8 a=PICMQzVu5ImiCxHJMEQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=J1--mjHvEgEA:10 a=i1zE5R4R5dEA:10 a=TQdRxR6nyrkA:10 a=s2loLT2QvaoA:10 a=eiJRm6rqGn8EJvXxHSdv4Q==:117 Received: from [70.112.152.241] ([70.112.152.241:4160] helo=kramerde634093) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id A4/59-27917-B02B7115; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 14:43:24 +0000 From: "Bob Kramer" To: "'Tony and Annie Garmey'" , , Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 08:43:25 -0600 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph powered Devin on ebay - other makes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It looks to me like it didn't sell. > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Tony and Annie Garmey > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 5:56 PM > To: rjl6n@cstone.net; sjanzen@me.com > Cc: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph powered Devin on ebay - other makes > > I'd say well bought. Hope the new owner get to enjoy it. > > Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 16:55:49 -0500 > > From: rjl6n@cstone.net > > To: sjanzen@me.com > > CC: fot@autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph powered Devin on ebay - other makes > > > > Bidding has ended... > > > > John > > > > On Fri, February 8, 2013 2:28 pm, Scott Janzen wrote: > > > looks like a pretty car for strong money -$69k will by a few TRs! > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1954-Devin-Special-Triumph-TR4-Chassis-an d- > TR4 > -Engine-/290855977437?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item43b85e01dd#ht_2468wt_11 82 > > > _______________________________________________ > > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 10 15:40:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A0342283 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:40:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F6540447 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 07:51:12 -0700 (MST) a=eiJRm6rqGn8EJvXxHSdv4Q==:17 a=IYbAqjljJL4A:10 a=TTTP2qVhS_4A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=PZWJWKAXlG8A:10 a=zxuNHrySAAAA:8 a=XZ65tMb-AAAA:8 a=t4xW5gW7AAAA:8 a=oYJ1J-jVAAAA:8 a=WdRftTptAAAA:8 a=DtYja5JVAAAA:8 a=6VyuNbgISOT0IKkTjIgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=fh3PLA9te4gA:10 a=Bdb1FJwxg44A:10 a=DVxfsDUnnTQA:10 a=Ao7sSXDdp1AA:10 a=VNyGcRsxbpkA:10 a=1mVNdWXfA_UA:10 a=YJfBi2CiiuMA:10 a=Dmm3UuXqt58A:10 a=baCF8aZza9REKyEi:21 a=IbW8BPeS6aycZaes:21 a=lUyf-G2SrDkgTzJZ4CwA:9 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=0il_wl1HkeatDn4I:21 a=fy-mzOLrL_GE7x7f:21 a=nbkmFy46GCp5jVj5:21 a=eiJRm6rqGn8EJvXxHSdv4Q==:117 Received: from [70.112.152.241] ([70.112.152.241:4174] helo=kramerde634093) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 0A/87-01418-782B7115; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 14:45:28 +0000 From: "Bob Kramer" To: "'Blake, Gregory S'" , "'Bob Blake'" , "'Bobby Whitehead'" Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 08:45:29 -0600 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] CAN-AM REUNION. 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Please don't print this email unless you really need to. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 10 17:56:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A599740EB7 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 17:56:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BBD94056E for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 17:56:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.22.217]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MI100HOI6CGKC20@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 18:50:41 -0600 (CST) From: "Bill Tobin" To: Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 19:50:37 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Kas' comment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Kas, thanks for the reminder. I do have a bleeder (petcock) on the thermostat housing, on the right side. I forgot that one. The temp sender goes in the left side. It's tough getting old, you start forgetting things! My 86 year old cousin Marion tells me "You aint seen nothing yet!" You're right, it is the highest point and the last one to close. Thanks again. Bill _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 11 07:35:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F5C40E1E for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 07:35:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E5B4042A for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 07:35:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4F9A21C000086; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:29:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mte002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mte002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.236.69]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D9B0CE000085; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:29:41 -0500 (EST) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:29:39 -0500 (EST) To: charly@mitchelplumbing.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1360592982; bh=+LpTKTBlvW2KR9yHjPPJGBgLmn1en81vCM5KlEDYrsg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PeGZIXtt5xEwW5q2sjAqgknCb8uZxjQUkUgOoxa9oskYjnRbZM+2YFlIO5LnrOG/x V7NTCrsRBwn1s9xjNLmv9ZfXt36KU4XfYhZjNTVxm4fmqOcZJkwReXPepIydPSx3qx uhsRIOhTo8ndgcFYvfkTIPRdGIkt3IlidFrUmL7c= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2948511900550c0c Subject: Re: [Fot] TR coolant pressure/flow Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici... All good advice, but of course...Kas covers this entire cooling system subject on pages 154 through 156 of his most recent 'TRIUMPH PREPARATION HANDBOOK'. Any TRIUMPH aficionado who does not have that (and his other books) is missing the boat. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 13 09:27:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE09940E40 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:27:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027A440420 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:27:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.72]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zr3n1k0081ZMdJ4ACsMhlj; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:21:41 +0000 Received: from WalterPC ([68.35.35.233]) by omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zsMg1k00951oJMw8csMgY9; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:21:41 +0000 From: "Walter Hollowell" To: Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:21:38 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac4KBf+Xhdh/TmwSSsKDanNxrXTKxA== Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1360772501; bh=79k5Hbv1va9YoO7KrvTqEUCtSNUfYzj9AKHAFpMA9NM=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=CVidVaqNh+Uutsvh8FzwlLI6b8oXQiJyRSRFuCT+oD/fOYjq7XheJ/NjRGT0O9Ioe B6cU5qQZRnBh8UXeFAkIVQlCeEuz1spACDjjzYAfvHDuE6pMA69ElhmvcAjvHyEShp 995zNAzcH7X0o00D+eF+Ti+sckb+X9eh1JtnYTsCt7GIS+bt4eeRWcFhXkpVEKQboi nG7EvDmQAZy0OTbKM7TzvgNuHRZ+zxZSsonXK6YuTdlYEVfDN++tI2xPcQy/DrsR1K xl0gFj79OkEgX+7mkm5/Dl7K97AieNdY8rS1kaZEL7p2iq3rDIDVeHWJQrU5pBoldF EpyGpSmGLrhFA== Subject: [Fot] ARP Bolt application Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Can any FOT member please give me the ARP part number for main bearing cap bolts for a TR6? Thank You, Walt Hollowell Albuquerque, NM _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 13 09:31:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607FE40E5B for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:31:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id EA24440420 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:31:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.215.140] by nm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2013 16:25:07 -0000 Received: from [98.139.173.165] by tm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2013 16:25:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp108-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2013 16:25:06 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360772706; bh=7IiglSanoy8oimE9op0Dx/J2hldwfaAZyFR7hSiUBRk=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Subject:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=hhzN966BZ/PG7GM+Awn7IC4BUwJspDv8IvzqX0XSxb6RXPHYCUMQHmAycgVQF1//ZYmFctfOH/jMKG6jSOexRoUeebrXl8I/J/UOeGXkiaeYPg/2mpjXXS/6X93mzj3vdO0Gk1Dv6ZA8tMYc51EoEjBAzardX4h/Mgm+WrEOhzI= YMH.6FeDcpr1nUZJB3EfL5C9HLRoxrS5uUPYFIp2ucFE7p.doxdY_HOU5Wkb J5fXa6micw3Bwhp4Xi7c0V5mtrYWSYgISkyVWo6slxQxQa17zRU3YbDMIaGA OJshZUqEXHLcirjMrZls2BOfIO2ra9WG7aphPe43iuwMIQQFat54LFom3zcB _H7yXdcSK8nyJT.jJJwXFdHuh7nxEhg63qbYMzbunosC9KvjuxegyudWkeNB sbkyALDOPXJNRkpgr52I6AQ0050qFXttJyQrGfiLaH._uaEAsdI1O5UnpIz4 _QSaGtEzJaM0NaUum1gWMF5KW1Bd.DwR2mFO9Fg9gbmXwViMxh4rzsiJVHm. sgkGjxQxr4AmYU5THD6KqC3vqNuMXQOi4bfagNRdlfnCykprJcMWndvujHga Lp5pCAozTSi4fJQ-- Received: from [10.239.212.12] (jaxonracing@174.236.68.172 with xymcookie) by smtp108-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 2013 08:25:06 -0800 PST From: Jaxon Racing Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:25:04 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Nomination. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I would like to nominate a potential new member to the FOT . What steps do I need to take to move this great Triumph forward in the process? Jay _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 13 09:44:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42BDE40EA9 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:44:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.159]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8FAE40420 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:43:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from Charly (unknown [97.126.72.198]) (Authenticated sender: charly@mitchelplumbing.com) by smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 575A65D8097; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:37:54 -0600 (CST) From: "Charly Mitchel" To: "Walter Hollowell" , References: <000001ce0a06$33ba1e00$9b2e5a00$@hot-tr6.com> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 08:37:52 -0800 Subject: Re: [Fot] ARP Bolt application Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net http://goodparts.com/shop/index.php?categoryID=18 Charly Mitchel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter Hollowell" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 8:21 AM Subject: [Fot] ARP Bolt application > Can any FOT member please give me the ARP part number for main bearing cap > bolts for a TR6? > > Thank You, > > Walt Hollowell > > Albuquerque, NM > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2639/6099 - Release Date: 02/12/13 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 13 11:43:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8A340E9B for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:43:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm20-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm20-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D2240420 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:37:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.96] by nm20.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2013 18:31:22 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.74] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2013 18:31:22 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1011.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2013 18:31:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 32128 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Feb 2013 18:31:22 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360780282; bh=D460nEgHq0oLlHOtR0vf4Lzx6qdElUBz3NrAJO8Rk+o=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Wpy/8FDBOWN+ZPCbeNRsVh3qDc3jx1VazsouWxlmLHtPv1PLkHSjCR2xiRPFW0XYJwH1Pa1c5AZPZLDBrkcke7EsYpM5zix4gjZcYEn5lXGnTtkaBtTgDF6I0ofuTLU3fiYONTTmVX2Yytn3qfFTCpieWTnDNBCN9LOmbRISDjc= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QZcSP3OFtenZqPmRgCh1R7BtFnSkXBu8j5N/he24CoEyz3Cc+s7mKmRzUDmJDqhyKMn8Yg/IKH6qlxKTwnMBPjXUuNhnRFmyD0VRncYcLsJlFKV2K6sNK4CNW69b6+6Qzg2Ts6RqUUqnl4v82XPfx2HSTSt3IDMm4jboWCFy35g=; ljcC1ytF4Uq.s.XHkwsNxEXoibl28US52bvIH8mGd.6pKO9uXaFg1xTc3EKk FzLY.VI.nvuRpMneIU6RCO0D2ptuW5muC8QnOqZI_Gxbe1O9mKkcd_EC8rU2 K9PQ1tSy7IE7fKGXVEzHr0xAdjieAp9RBrG_3hSlA8b4UYhdocvATu_K47ne pFIeMySDaxWw5DqgwO2JxlsSm16DZ9aCxdjttgW7mqRYUvmIv1J7gbSpnKwB LHZNAvQPJUbZGXaOBi5L9rRDp5SP0pLDywubhEr4xr1GWEdFBd7cwIn3yBzW NJXACq2FkZHcP400vhKm_RcR9x5iujLaVupVQVsmXm0Ra2LSCIH10dOgA1Fl itRWtAJ_IGZC_utUppSzGzl2q7zMiVV6RsE_lSXUrrfZE9nXtTdChtrjZgu4 lWQ6TTetj5PEYTePjmyeP2rHRUA4mFH_PV3UC1NWSztFetQ-- Received: from [99.60.75.95] by web184803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:31:21 PST SSd2ZSBnb3QgdGhlIHR5cGUgb2YgY29udmVyc2lvbiB1bml0IHRoYXQgdXNlcyB0aHJlZSBib3hlZCBhbmdsZSBicmFja2V0cyBhbmQgCmF0dGFjaGVzIHRocm91Z2ggdGhlIGJvZHkuwqAgTXkgcXVlc3Rpb24gcmVsYXRlcyB0byB0aGUgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hlZXQgcnViYmVyIApzdXBwbGllZCB0byBnbyBvbiB0b3Agb2YgdGhlIGxvd2VzdCAoYW5kIGxhcmdlc3QpIGJyYWNrZXQgYmV0d2VlbiB0aGUgYnJhY2tldCAKYW5kIHRoZSBib2R5LsKgIEkgd291bGQgdGhpbmsgaW4gdGhlIHJhY2UgYXBwbGljYXRpb24BMAEBAQE- References: Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:31:21 -0800 (PST) From: sherry robyn To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Tube shock conversion on a TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've got the type of conversion unit that uses three boxed angle brackets and attaches through the body. My question relates to the piece of sheet rubber supplied to go on top of the lowest (and largest) bracket between the bracket and the body. I would think in the race application that this rubber should be left out and I have added a piece of 14 gauge steel on top of the body layer (horizonal in the trunk) that I may or may not weld in place. Does anyone have any thoughts on this particular area of this type conversion? Thanks, Jim _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 13 16:56:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F2F40E9E for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:56:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.73]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735C840E40 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:55:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.56] by nm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2013 23:49:55 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.248] by tm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2013 23:49:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1040.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2013 23:49:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 26926 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Feb 2013 23:49:55 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360799394; bh=QqBLSj5AugSZMA1cMwyBHxfbQy+s99c87Va5dhvtB9A=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pY+0zBGgX15gjg4dYGUG1dg/emc26Idm3V1S45u7sZjvEnZbakfFWezUUePDB3q2mYA8VCXUXTtjmTGVUgDbyU0Z4GMkj/rCBDoplTcMs0RzkyHLWPwKql8XUPSv3ogjjnVmD2/qCx0vYnHBZQPKzmqRaBCjCU0IRMcst/px/o8= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mA6DlmnSFJ0C8M5x4BMCSVK/JjltCwkHRoKzSYWFLwwViQZrJ6SFg9kuYcng1Zk1EbfQjEm+k7Nb9bBrJKDJxhkTzNkx4wNFOSmkgPX6GV8fylMIewpcb/9y9jiszAMDkufOoibh6jr7RqNialaO227xEG9YIU2nQQdXKNt6OEc=; OFbjBn6Y3Cy3Gzdxe.V73GjRSrhozzU7bcJcmSE7bC.63D2.wp5Q7jAfrRo8 f0gzSARxuw2pgpQKQ_50G0B6zeEKe.dzDRsdr88mQumBvrjbI8vCbFeNtsec vgWxe8Ju7gU9uq_LQ0RAZOmn6Vt7RpxUT9Y9zgnk1bB3gRvoPxLBv9x9ldey NobCO44NGGByH1BDgt3LTj1BQQZMQox7T8uL6VJLXriobq_C2qPusCJhRUVV RuUFULjDvPPm3h6wJiLo0vCm1L7bGCFIIh2mdMaNvwQK9XbDGPqzzoYvflx5 Hj3Bre0iNjgWwQISvwnLORSk6J5sfLtVQ.BZvNKWfCF6IOssfLOXx8tJHHjA TqRRGzDC1XpKPc4np.fcZgERMgQ.jd3nxbvdFw6RJDw.YmqjAMyvCw0wdtJ0 DrxhlAI4rlx99yJ_YYpsihMa0Njq58THCAg-- Received: from [75.167.91.132] by web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 15:49:54 PST SXQgcGFpbnMgbWUgdG8gc2F5IHRoaXMsIGJ1dC4uLgoKSSBuZWVkIHRvIHNlbGwgb25lIG9mIG15IFNwaXRmaXJlcy4gSXQgaXMgYSAxOTc4IFRyaXVtcGggU3BpdGZpcmUgMTUwMC4gSXQgd2FzIGdvaW5nIHRvIGJlIG15IHJhY2VyLiBJIGhhdmUgdGFrZW4gYSBmZXcgdGhpbmdzIG9mZiB0byBzdGFydCBvbiByZWJ1aWxkaW5nwqBpdCwgc28gSSBoYXZlIGFsbCB0aGUgcGFydHMgdGhhdCB3ZXJlIG9yaWdpbmFsbHkgb24gaXQsIGV4Y2VwdCB0aGUgb3JpZ2luYWwgc3RhcnRlciBhbmQgaGFyZCB0b3Agd2luZG8BMAEBAQE- Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 15:49:54 -0800 (PST) From: Shawn Frank To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] 78 Spitfire project car for sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It pains me to say this, but... I need to sell one of my Spitfires. It is a 1978 Triumph Spitfire 1500. It was going to be my racer. I have taken a few things off to start on rebuilding it, so I have all the parts that were originally on it, except the original starter and hard top windows. There is some rust on the floor pan and lower rockers. It is in a lot better shape than Gertrude(my 71 MKIV) when I started working on her. I need to sell it fast. Clear title. Please email me if you are interested. I am attaching a couple pics of it from a year and a half ago. In one of the pics, it is the green one and not the blue one! I must emphasize that. The blue one is not, and will never be for sale! It has sat under a car cover since then, and I feel bad that I have accumulated another Spitfire ('80 1500) that is in great shape, pushing this one off and relinquishing it's duties as the "racer". Please let me know if you are interested. You can call me at 515-339-4228 or email me back for more info. Thanks everyone! Shawn Frank [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 62910_144462505597477_100001011850470_208463_1280430_n.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 24985_101828799860848_3021280_n.jpg] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 13 19:14:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF874055E for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:14:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm24-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF53040407 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:14:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.103] by nm24.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2013 02:08:22 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.78] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2013 02:08:22 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2013 02:08:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 62644 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Feb 2013 02:08:21 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360807701; bh=yU6ISn3YqxC+peXaIBGJ2jUqfrbYlFwdjBjrPPjpQ5Q=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=G7okvi/NvFg0LvwEIZmwHNSzP0sDZiVGPgUn6L5wMP9IRlI/uHq9qixcoprXh4kcNmuyIcqZIVjgYD89rKnAb+pkfwqqqIE9SVb6mi02qbiw6CDjXwoyk3Z9oFovhnt3xH1fESOlsH13NoIacydvJ/aNO5V8kOLWhhJqOlg1D88= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=g/dux/Z1vBCp6VwF/UKJs9zFf8zaQAStR9q0WkZJX/qvPBT0+r33xRxYthNfWgq3rQ+G/iCapQ1LNHLf/OyUmauITZGDJqdr7n+iiQwVPEB1bRo3ECYXlJhpfUA3b46K4aBFxug9QfMRBlWF6+epqFRJI1IfJxkvE3fO+onsp+w=; VvJAhijoPgo9KBBQ1CRWDqqRbphuV7kUTmopqzWiyWU3GZhfsfPLRnlGcLd5 eNYMrrGpboj8zY9l4vJY7Gecf2jfamBr.QJV6.qkrICY67ikBQLU99nOUYMZ Ez0VoTexrX.ph57Ar_o317lRkllky3G0OBZJK7r1pveEE_1Uzx7y2.0QWG3X .RBilq.KEj.JC_ZqdIQmH02ch84dIhMTnceSuYua7S6kUYgfwpSMwC.tmAiJ 0Me_F01tkRtDzsDQedkAMhJXGbXeHGZhB57lNCU_GhXPbP1FCLCNQyo5wB0u RW.wmgO6H2EdMWsoKECONOfg_IETqk5ieKY9Rz5unLmsPktIXXyZ8GoIjfGW .nt7ep8bKUbyvnSO6FhXi2Zs6HsfzLazkIHtV_k3YRoYlCdpd4s1R5A4OxDP vh5oHn9wPTw-- Received: from [99.60.75.95] by web184802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 18:08:21 PST T24gYSA3NCBUUjYsIEkgYW0gaW5zdGFsbGluZyBvbiBvbGRlciB0dWJlIHNob2NrIGNvbnZlcnNpb24gKGJveGVkIGFuZ2xlIHBsYXRlcyAKYXR0YWNoZWQgdGhyb3VnaCB0aGUgYm9keSkuwqAgRG9lcyBhbnlvbmUga25vdyBhIGdvb2Qgc3RhcnRpbmcgYWRqdXN0bWVudCBmb3IgCnNlcmllcyA4MCBLb25pcyBvbiB0aGUgcmVhciBmb3IgYXV0b2Nyb3NzaW5nP8KgIEl0IGhhcyBoZWF2eSBkdXR5IGZ1bGwgbGVuZ3RoIApzcHJpbmdzLsKgIFRoYW5rcywgSmltATABAQEB References: <10696.7536775c.3e4681cf@aol.com> <1360351576.44487.YahooMailRC@web184803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <5F4FC25785F847FDBCC34A6FF913D329@hpd530> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 18:08:21 -0800 (PST) From: sherry robyn To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Series 80 Koni adjustment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On a 74 TR6, I am installing on older tube shock conversion (boxed angle plates attached through the body). Does anyone know a good starting adjustment for series 80 Konis on the rear for autocrossing? It has heavy duty full length springs. Thanks, Jim _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 10:29:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C9342459 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:29:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8739B422E5 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:22:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r1EHGXfe026239; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:16:33 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:16:33 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: sherry robyn References: <10696.7536775c.3e4681cf@aol.com> <1360351576.44487.YahooMailRC@web184803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <5F4FC25785F847FDBCC34A6FF913D329@hpd530> <1360807701.62440.YahooMailRC@web184802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Series 80 Koni adjustment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I'm a long-time TR6 autocrosser. My suggestion would be to go to full stiff on the settings and then try to back off 'till the car isn't completely tail-happy. You are much better off with stiff shocks / springs in the rear than with a big roll bar because with the roll bar you'll lift the inside wheel and get wheel spin (unless you have a Detroit locker or maybe a Salisbury type). I know this from experience. With a Quaife or open diff, you will get wheel spin. I've done the big bar on my street TR6 (used to run that car in SCCA FSP) and with the race car (SCCA F Prepared). Stiff springs get you less body roll, less "squat" on take-off at the expense of making the back a little bit more loose (depends on how stiff the springs are). On rough courses, the car will be really tail happy, but that's the tradeoff. I hope this helps. rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 12:32:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B39B542467 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:32:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C2140EBC for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:28:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.70]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id D93841C000828; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:21:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (222.sub-70-197-163.myvzw.com [70.197.163.222]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id F17B2E0002C6; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:21:56 -0500 (EST) References: <10696.7536775c.3e4681cf@aol.com> <1360351576.44487.YahooMailRC@web184803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <5F4FC25785F847FDBCC34A6FF913D329@hpd530> <1360807701.62440.YahooMailRC@web184802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> From: Jack Mc Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:21:54 -0500 To: sherry robyn x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1360869718; bh=EITtjSZ++re6hSwlU9OzyuY7ub4AfGOUimjK7kol8u8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=Dk32iOUfw3gCL55Klj3OiLUcQHIjmD9SPOjn1onPF0ZwUxGmiiqYOGQrzno/hm2et CQs1sLrGWOOCxw46W39TkDuazLv5F3xz+y+pR26hl87zbFLCTXOUL6ReeGwVVnoPbk VqF0qDkNMCQk6PIBJwkxhZ5cjwD7iZrBcgFMrhyk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2946511d39531dff Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Series 80 Koni adjustment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Well, my advice would be not to put that monstrosity on your car, let alone Autocross with it - unless you really like doing body and frame repair. Pardon by bluntness, but I can't understand why these things are still in use - I'd be surprised if at least half this list hasn't experienced, seen, or at least heard about the damage they can cause. Cheers, Jack Mc Sent from my iPad On Feb 13, 2013, at 9:08 PM, sherry robyn wrote: > On a 74 TR6, I am installing on older tube shock conversion (boxed angle > plates > attached through the body). Does anyone know a good starting > adjustment for > series 80 Konis on the rear for autocrossing? It has heavy > duty full length > springs. Thanks, Jim > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/limeyv8@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 12:50:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C4F540E55 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:50:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E6440066 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:50:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.73]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8855D38000BAA for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:44:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msb004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msb004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.141]) by mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 62C1EE0000A7 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:44:13 -0500 (EST) References: <10696.7536775c.3e4681cf@aol.com> <1360351576.44487.YahooMailRC@web184803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <5F4FC25785F847FDBCC34A6FF913D329@hpd530> <1360807701.62440.YahooMailRC@web184802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <6B956725-2E32-46A4-9E12-FC0CD8332B76@aol.com> <8CFD902691A9C49-13B0-7DDF@webmail-d013.sysops.aol.com> To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d013.sysops.aol.com (205.188.180.144) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:44:12 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:44:13 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1360871056; bh=OoW3EolkLKmQ9JK1X2hgPVZFLbfR02mUfKXqVyHrZ7o=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OfSUJsOiFB9twCzrZgeuNTMaNaiKpyKJSj3JjzNDc2TS7QhOXJ2zxVLyS1lHyKiVX 0Yt8QFb91CAiyKjfNHL1cCCWqC3ZwHC9brH2kuz76nVM4RZmVh3uFwnHhYi7985Ksz lFledzqbdNRNhergICLME+P+tj8nIeuLnBfB0DVw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2949511d3e8d628a Subject: [Fot] Series 80 Koni adjustment RATCO SHOCKCONVERSION Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net There have been some designs that got a deservedly bad reputation for creating stress and fatigue on chassis and body parts. AWFUL consequences. I believe that there are now some designs that are much improved. RATCO comes to mind..........worth looking at RATCO's design. I know that Tony's solid axle desgn for tube shock conversion addresses this issue and I can recommend it. I am not sure he advertizes it, but he does manufacture a kit. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Jack Mc To: sherry robyn Cc: fot Sent: Thu, Feb 14, 2013 1:27 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Series 80 Koni adjustment Well, my advice would be not to put that monstrosity on your car, let alone Autocross with it - unless you really like doing body and frame repair. Pardon by bluntness, but I can't understand why these things are still in use - I'd be surprised if at least half this list hasn't experienced, seen, or at least heard about the damage they can cause. Cheers, Jack Mc Sent from my iPad On Feb 13, 2013, at 9:08 PM, sherry robyn wrote: > On a 74 TR6, I am installing on older tube shock conversion (boxed angle > plates > attached through the body). Does anyone know a good starting > adjustment for > series 80 Konis on the rear for autocrossing? It has heavy > duty full length > springs. Thanks, Jim > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/limeyv8@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 13:04:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B77DE40E38 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:04:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE71A40416 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:04:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 957211C00176A for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:58:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mte003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mte003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.236.73]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 70881E0000B0 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:58:32 -0500 (EST) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:58:32 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1360871915; bh=wrecflabMytUb2CysvhkIJGU3FZYo7U7mZbDHVHDnHc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WY0WQElYZZfV2BgO/yhjIirYAXvE8WFdJUkRFT8CAkOJRbmAlM5+feNQyTo4DyKIh 3H8cSOdhva+2tyZ7QrygW8KeYpcct1neexqi3BgxrlFUV5UdZU8gbDpoSShJhz4Sj4 UFOCyQZNiTu//XTiILI3RrqErgwReKy+BOneEdd4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b511d41e824f5 Subject: [Fot] Its damn'd embarrassing... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici... Is anyone else embarrassed to learn that the poor, stalled Caribbean cruise ship TRIUMPH is being towed slowly back to Texas by a bunch of tug boats, after a fire caused engine failure. For days and days now, over 4,000 people are stranded on board dealing with lack of food, water, working toilet facilities, and other implorable conditions. I understand things stink to High Heaven. It is time for action. I move the FOT gets involved with a campaign to get this ship's name changed to FIAT, or some such. And, because this is important, as usual Joe Alexander should do all the work. Bill (Damdinger) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 13:10:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C995A40E47 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:10:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (imr-mb01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.164]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D53214041B for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:09:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 662831C001370 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:03:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dgd004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dgd004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.229.205]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id CD3E7E000086; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:02:59 -0500 (EST) From: REK46@aol.com Full-name: REK46 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:02:59 -0500 (EST) To: BillDentin@aol.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1360872183; bh=qDaSEnKBEbB+3GafQWietPnpY0y6u73wS+XGpVp3YS4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BAP/+YFHqGdnsNDF+sTi+cbEHkYKZxPYvKVrcsVpbBubiKlT/bbAdIIZBOCKSunsm xG+ggVgGed6sru1uj5+ij/tMcjwDveOjw4TTKbeWysCLaDo8ndhS6cUVhQdHIv2aKt Raaj9aUU1bHgAU3z7UpSRIBAF5F0UgniNK3D9qQQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d511d42f31db7 Subject: Re: [Fot] Its damn'd embarrassing... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net They should change it to " LUCAS " In a message dated 2/14/2013 2:59:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, BillDentin@aol.com writes: Amici... Is anyone else embarrassed to learn that the poor, stalled Caribbean cruise ship TRIUMPH is being towed slowly back to Texas by a bunch of tug boats, after a fire caused engine failure. For days and days now, over 4,000 people are stranded on board dealing with lack of food, water, working toilet facilities, and other implorable conditions. I understand things stink to High Heaven. It is time for action. I move the FOT gets involved with a campaign to get this ship's name changed to FIAT, or some such. And, because this is important, as usual Joe Alexander should do all the work. Bill (Damdinger) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 13:25:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC888406B5 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:25:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2E240418 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:24:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.71]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0KvN1l0031Y3wxoAFLJsBq; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:18:52 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0LJr1l00L2vctGa8bLJrrk; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:18:51 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: , References: <65f1.24fce021.3e4e9be8@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:18:50 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1360873132; bh=tkwLitfGUDsz2LWC+aftv/r3srT002DgsYoJaflHuZk=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qb3Ggh9G21RsBqA93XK2q43J4bZwX1b7b38vIA2FAYeGKwnuDvbeaJzbandug8KX0 UQVEkJVuEYvYFPN95EKonns+1H5F0QWDYnoPbXk2plSaEyk9gZQljzGQgP0zmf9Fiy MhWWU7tMgs5G96RNyIDusxgG16iENgdxRIQkTf0ajyI/rbmObQSL5eZlQs/OQwmf6E h3ZeyfrzC30XJ64ckPx8s4TINRXU5ylhXCAqGZ5s6/ancGIy3UH4Y8/RiQHS1LYRsO LhDPLBtmoY4uxrt/495BZLPWgpZGBAZF60djQ5OtiWdAB2sBT+2W2IavZtF4pLtGFr yERqfYFIZCCBg== Subject: Re: [Fot] Its damn'd embarrassing... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'd Rather Be 'Sailing' RB ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:58 AM Subject: [Fot] Its damn'd embarrassing... > Amici... > > Is anyone else embarrassed to learn that the poor, stalled Caribbean > cruise > ship TRIUMPH is being towed slowly back to Texas by a bunch of tug boats, > after a fire caused engine failure. For days and days now, over 4,000 > people > are stranded on board dealing with lack of food, water, working toilet > facilities, and other implorable conditions. I understand things stink to > High > Heaven. > > It is time for action. I move the FOT gets involved with a campaign to > get > this ship's name changed to FIAT, or some such. And, because this is > important, as usual Joe Alexander should do all the work. > > Bill (Damdinger) > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 14:08:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADC640E38 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:08:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214C840417 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:08:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.74]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id D25C61C000E0E for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:02:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msb004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msb004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.141]) by mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id B46F6E000093; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:02:08 -0500 (EST) References: <65f1.24fce021.3e4e9be8@aol.com> To: BillDentin@aol.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d013.sysops.aol.com (205.188.180.144) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:02:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:02:08 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1360875731; bh=rgh1bCJsVVf5AH6D47fY96xdALRMZQWTlBgb7OdRFPw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TTX2KgGRFzKBnN0aoAWD0CS9LzKIGRnoaKJzrhvEAsW0uZ+pj2fYxTKjc3BvsMK0j DW8PQVUFJERnyuppnSLyHTJ41eFG4j1rBnkWnmCet8C489DguP3xpufJpGKf2smfNk 5Y71wupgoyRfdDGI5aKRblPvOZDhkVeIhID5xkcU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294a511d50d03284 Subject: Re: [Fot] Its damn'd embarrassing... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I am waiting for it to spring an OIL LEAK......... Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: BillDentin To: fot Sent: Thu, Feb 14, 2013 1:59 pm Subject: [Fot] Its damn'd embarrassing... Amici... Is anyone else embarrassed to learn that the poor, stalled Caribbean cruise ship TRIUMPH is being towed slowly back to Texas by a bunch of tug boats, after a fire caused engine failure. For days and days now, over 4,000 people are stranded on board dealing with lack of food, water, working toilet facilities, and other implorable conditions. I understand things stink to High Heaven. It is time for action. I move the FOT gets involved with a campaign to get this ship's name changed to FIAT, or some such. And, because this is important, as usual Joe Alexander should do all the work. Bill (Damdinger) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 14:23:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68CE040E01 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:23:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC4240526 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:23:03 -0700 (MST) a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:17 a=7KaaxAUCt-sA:10 a=n69KlRoDYh8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=1nvzrvukQZ8A:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=Buh-_u00neVeU6rmCmkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:117 Received: from [67.255.16.235] ([67.255.16.235:52580] helo=Shop) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id C9/27-02677-9445D115; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:16:58 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: , References: <65f1.24fce021.3e4e9be8@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:17:11 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4K7b6BToMybftRQ8Oul+1i5yJ/dAACqHuA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Its damn'd embarrassing... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Maybe Porsche, and paint some gold on the stacks.................. .....so there's these folks who saved all year for a vacation, scheduled vacation time and now this is what they get! Sure makes even a bad day at the track seem pretty darn good. russ -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BillDentin@aol.com Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:59 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Its damn'd embarrassing... Amici... Is anyone else embarrassed to learn that the poor, stalled Caribbean cruise ship TRIUMPH is being towed slowly back to Texas by a bunch of tug boats, after a fire caused engine failure. For days and days now, over 4,000 people are stranded on board dealing with lack of food, water, working toilet facilities, and other implorable conditions. I understand things stink to High Heaven. It is time for action. I move the FOT gets involved with a campaign to get this ship's name changed to FIAT, or some such. And, because this is important, as usual Joe Alexander should do all the work. Bill (Damdinger) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 15:24:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E50140E34 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:24:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31D74051A for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:23:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.204]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id ADA791C000B04; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:17:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mte003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mte003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.236.73]) by mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 9A56DE0000E6; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:16:56 -0500 (EST) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:16:56 -0500 (EST) To: rfdeanes@gmail.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1360880222; bh=yPRRUjFKxxZD6gVjbRArUzNOg9GjSAvAemp4gS9Y2Gw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EbjbZgv2mu76fbFunLBn9Ts5ukySvUf67/OIZ4zfaSOFtwhGwc3nmCKPdYnw/dj9g RzOkEmeOdX+cG/SVeX5MrTFdmVrt5knUbbMK5y2gMgUQW6G3v1UwitFOsWCiDh3VOV V7dEFRVvvRWNj4uhCv2IGSfrT2sl9muKUI6ZeVWE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cc511d625818bc Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Its damn'd embarrassing... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 02/14/2013 4:10:20 PM Central Standard Time, rfdeanes@gmail.com writes: > Now this ship is giving Triumph a bad name, now all the people on the > boat will relate the name to bad news.Think the owners would go for a name > change...possibly so ...especially to fill the cabins again.The tow rope broke > today and it still can't get to port, at least we know how to fix our > Triumphs. > I agree with the Fiat name and they can call Tony! > Mike Cooks says, "Yeah, FIAT! Flush It Again, Tony". And he's right. Bill (Damdinger) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 16:39:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D798240698 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:39:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm1-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm1-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.94]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A1B4051A for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:37:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.105] by nm1.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2013 23:31:41 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.69] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2013 23:31:41 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1006.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2013 23:31:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 37228 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Feb 2013 23:31:41 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360884701; bh=eDqHCS6bNXgnvQmfqGYj/M1fi++TZjxkc2SgiyniFB8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sqc6s2Y2kMSUoJGoey9yJS1CVXTWpFG65wHWOmvExoXSx+nRAaG/Au+d7kt3qNDyfWxuV+Z5G3O1NxqnGcfKMFBYdcSv1Q71jkM4KF0Ak3iuRGePMtZmfaCqWz6qs4pyzn7mcxSNaz6yJsPKPLvOwI3SGpDQZ6Rh75NlqL/Fodk= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uWajbMZvhWdHoE8fedDOdnLX5cXTdZyMipZtAUvQBUkB7rSz7b2/uFj0oj8IW1f9mM056oSXhF04cSpV8b8Ie+yYnxzs95GU+dVIyogZqGA2wTzSl5NDliBOH1AmvoArlgTQ10UoeY+fC+ibzgP2KW4DsZMo9zxBMwemQx7nRpc=; SaeVy46B1i2xsjmESgX9A6ZPBcMy6XYgUBWoZgpPVh2ul39kyhtUJyYl2ZZv 2ExuDm8pER8YCdr8C6HMQv8BoU5Ov41XIvQRW9POOTU0k6LXoW5B0mtGSRTA R3ea2m2_y3SYe9Yfidou7u9e_XNgta_DnuUS8fsjakbq3sNBV.Unnr.fddiQ aVggNuGKUmj_i8bmnc67zAmVLxbysz_dbYIpKKHAGkJm4qWOWg2INW_KfOrl C4A2AdDRFpm5JXxKHM5KaHswrypWqOqhO3f5yhkyjcCT_yHRh3au.UN4lKGt 08znaASl41RJz46fKIIORDa2kYJO96V1bwinnFiAtlYU6EAcrs0_SMZBLjVE t_y59PmhXu.smnBjRRltYYt79V1jgIhRRL63QykWFlia5csvOvat1pF_3F2w 74ji5XAri9w-- Received: from [99.60.75.95] by web184801.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:31:41 PST RnJhbWUgaXMgaW4gcHJldHR5IGdvb2Qgc2hhcGUuwqAgVGhlIHJlYXIgZW5kIGlzIHdlbGRlZCBhbmQgaXQgZG9lcyBoYXZlIGJhciBvbiAKdGhlIHJlYXIuwqAgSSBkbyBwbGFuIHRvIGJlZWYgdXAgdGhlIGZyYW1lIGluIHRoZSBkaWZmIGFuZCBzaG9jayBhcmVhIGJ1dMKgaXQgCmRvZXNuJ3Qgc2VlbSBsaWtlwqB0aGVyZSBpcyBub3QgbXVjaCBJIGNhbiBkbyB0byBiZWVmIHVwIHRoZSB0cmFpbGluZyBhcm0uwqAgVGhlc2UgCktvbmlzIGhhdmUgYSBidWlsdCBpbiBidW1wIHN0b3AuwqAgSmltCgoKCl9fX18BMAEBAQE- References: <10696.7536775c.3e4681cf@aol.com> <1360351576.44487.YahooMailRC@web184803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <5F4FC25785F847FDBCC34A6FF913D329@hpd530> <1360807701.62440.YahooMailRC@web184802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:31:41 -0800 (PST) From: sherry robyn To: "Robert M. Lang" Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Series 80 Koni adjustment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Frame is in pretty good shape. The rear end is welded and it does have bar on the rear. I do plan to beef up the frame in the diff and shock area but it doesn't seem like there is not much I can do to beef up the trailing arm. These Konis have a built in bump stop. Jim ________________________________ From: Robert M. Lang To: sherry robyn Cc: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Thu, February 14, 2013 9:17:43 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Series 80 Koni adjustment Hi, I'm a long-time TR6 autocrosser. My suggestion would be to go to full stiff on the settings and then try to back off 'till the car isn't completely tail-happy. You are much better off with stiff shocks / springs in the rear than with a big roll bar because with the roll bar you'll lift the inside wheel and get wheel spin (unless you have a Detroit locker or maybe a Salisbury type). I know this from experience. With a Quaife or open diff, you will get wheel spin. I've done the big bar on my street TR6 (used to run that car in SCCA FSP) and with the race car (SCCA F Prepared). Stiff springs get you less body roll, less "squat" on take-off at the expense of making the back a little bit more loose (depends on how stiff the springs are). On rough courses, the car will be really tail happy, but that's the tradeoff. I hope this helps. rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 19:27:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED27A42477 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:27:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm28-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm28-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.190]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF8440EA1 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:24:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.107] by nm28.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2013 02:18:18 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.91] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2013 02:18:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1028.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2013 02:18:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 4330 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Feb 2013 02:18:18 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360894698; bh=4Xip2k3RA0tHwxZj4E9NkLkcje8dUKt7kAymnAxyr+s=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TmePvUN5fgqEXuGNus+8gikZYL+AnpAzSp7sf3ckF1+Zkazjp3WCvcTxkRVA/A0phFuWZ9vW3mba41x23xqwioeppXZ40W/Cd3csO4yKzBLIckLyGFiP6KSSo60uNNvU/SQ3wVYqnctBHaLSvlmqF9/N+mJKYEoCXh/PC9OXBSM= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uXdsUE4a24PWeT8+Vewk8r4icgjWrKrvVdabCDSrh4s0+S/NVzxDx+rbEOgDLtMDTYsJAx4rP0skcPTBS7EDsiG3B6Rdu4lCX47+rPt3WhI4Cg3B++i1rvi7+53QbVaBW2Mf7UL/1p5vqzGGZgG4/DZxttdp1J9DuF6m2//fDrU=; Vc6kME6uTa0iGWt0xEp49W3j6Z59ejdD9SGw7eipU5mzf_HyRz4T4Ckj57WV JNynG4dPV13S0um9QE8ZI_I7NsTVRPc7t776vidSza3ksuKgV24MhJ1I82ma IAsh6MjnoBF24KBkp62rf6.8QhpakW830K9FvDAqfArdpe_ltAn2yASspaLL 2ZRgWgNHYX9zHhx0Iefn9XQsOdESEQ30qCDYtlyNpvejfkcqC5zAQ9d0LbW9 7bOm9DSAJsUIR85UJY..lYSNlsknJEZH.FucDg6I77U3trzKkS02iOzvGo9l SVwpkgjfqAImNDfKda50aE8IhCwnpzmu2u4XEfhey.3xkTULAVfNsFW4Gy3I Ikh1SesFM2VRtcaa7M7yOe6._5eRJRrK6CtFjIEMxsyXjE_MEYoxLvkV2ww0 mXjsWu_VkOQ-- Received: from [99.60.75.95] by web184803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:18:18 PST T24gdGhlIHN1Z2dlc3Rpb24gdG8gdXNlIGhlaW1zIGpvaW50LCBJIGNhbiBzZWUgdGhhdCB0aGlzIHByaW5jaXBhbCBjb3VsZCBiZSAKYWR2YW50YWdlb3VzIGJ1dCBub3Qgc3VyZSBob3cgaXQgd291bGQgYmUgZG9uZSBwcmFjdGljYWxseSBpbiB0aGUgYXBwbGljYXRpb24gb2YgCnR1YmUgc2hvY2sgY29udmVyc2lvbiBhbmQgdGhlIHRyYWlsaW5nIGFybS7CoCBJIGNhbid0IHF1aXRlIHNlZSBob3cgdG8gdXNlIGl0IG9uIAplaXRoZXIgZW5kLsKgIEkgd291bGQgdGhpbmsgdGhhdCB0aGUgbGFyZ2VyIHNob2MBMAEBAQE- References: <10696.7536775c.3e4681cf@aol.com> <1360351576.44487.YahooMailRC@web184803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <5F4FC25785F847FDBCC34A6FF913D329@hpd530> <1360807701.62440.YahooMailRC@web184802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <6B956725-2E32-46A4-9E12-FC0CD8332B76@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:18:18 -0800 (PST) From: sherry robyn To: "Robert M. Lang" Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Series 80 Koni adjustment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On the suggestion to use heims joint, I can see that this principal could be advantageous but not sure how it would be done practically in the application of tube shock conversion and the trailing arm. I can't quite see how to use it on either end. I would think that the larger shock mount holes and rubber shock mount bushing might have a similar affect to the heim joint. Jim ________________________________ From: Robert M. Lang To: Jack Mc Cc: sherry robyn ; "fot@autox.team.net" Sent: Thu, February 14, 2013 12:23:57 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Series 80 Koni adjustment Hi, Just to be clear, what Jack refers to is the fact that there are significant bending loads that can occur from both the normal motion of these telescopic shocks and supension bottoming that can occur because most of the tube shock conversions eliminate the lower bump stop in some manor, or at the very least change it. The point being that the SPRING (actually the wheel rate) limits the total weight transfer... so, in theory you can limit some of the bending load to the frame because of the shock. Note also that where the shock mounts to the trailing arm, there is an arcing motion, so this adds to the bending loads. So, if you can mount the shock at the trailing arm and the frame with heims joints, you should probably do so. As a point of information, the Gp 44 TR6 used the stock shock location on the trailing arm, albeit with considerable reinforcement and the top was secured to the roll cage. That setup is rock-solid - so a telescoping shock can be used. The key is where you mount it. Also, not mentioned to this point is the fact that "we" really can't know the condition of the frame in question and that would have considerable bearing on whether the setup will work or not. If this was my car, and I had no other options, I'd def. add "check rear upper crossmember" to the pre-event check for every event as this setup can result in failure in that area. I'll also point out from experience that the trailing arms themselves are prone to cracking either at the shock mount or between where the hub mounts and the pivot points, so if you go really, really stiff on the suspension, the trailing arms are likely to fail. On the other hand, you can set up the suspension fairly soft like it came from the factory... just don't chuck the car around or you'll bottom the suspension all the time and I'll guarantee that stuff will break. :-) rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 20:13:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C626424B8 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:13:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A1E4248B for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:11:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.34.52]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MI8005X2R7YEQ90@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:04:47 -0600 (CST) From: "Bill Tobin" To: Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 22:04:40 -0500 Subject: [Fot] air compressor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Gang, while wasting some time between a late afternoon Valentines lunch and my welding class, I stopped by Home Depot. I saw a small Porter Cable air compressor on sale for $39.00. 3 1/2 gallon, 135 psi, pancake style. 110 volt. Nice small unit to take to the races. Only flows 3 SCFM but should be fine for pumping up tires. The HD guys said it was some kind of holiday promotion left over. Normally around $90.00. They weren't sure if it was a local thing or nationwide. I just thought I'd let you know. It's always good to share the good deals. OBTW, I bought 4. Happy Valentines Day. Bill _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 20:30:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B414424BF for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:30:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA664247D for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:29:09 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id fl17so1970948vcb.27 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:23:04 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date :to:x-gm-message-state; bh=rf9pSvO4Kx3/ncSxvRbYuUayX/VZ+y3haNF480yf3Kc=; b=AFBEKfGX3kufFz2ts7P+hnmwsEMJdmrxL1R5smkUCAWs01WKjtvCUEVo4otKc6lx1V wDzFWn5rrqitetrFTpks57gCTBZDEs6QnP4ys5HeQoiKNuE+7Eszz0aY/eVHBI/0eg0H INyvj/erBjR5ez8tdclG9hMfKLGtqDkRS4jMdsM7DzjM0DER/VKsTUljC7AKRjU9SeQz GjYZR1RLdBmfIw7vSBrxCXn4wuvu2cXJfdVXnLDyKv+lHsabj5stW3/iIYqdiEHSLCWd VlhyUCwPmqB4dYCOFBlmAVLpVkZ2BQoSMIzZs52kKqwPmp0YrCfHGNVWMQqzlITGxyKg Drqw== eo3mr1201621vdb.21.1360898583768; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:23:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.85.61.85] (mobile-198-228-194-120.mycingular.net. [198.228.194.120]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id mj8sm78735866veb.8.2013.02.14.19.23.02 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:23:03 -0800 (PST) References: <3F5EA384E5B74C8997325A9F11520D7E@hpd530> From: Bob Bownes -Seiri Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 22:23:00 -0500 To: Bill Tobin Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] air compressor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > OBTW, I bought 4. One for each tire? :) Bob _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 21:50:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E5C4043D for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:50:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE51E4042B for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:50:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7375F1C0000B3; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 23:44:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-ded003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-ded003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.54.9]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4E228E000088; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 23:44:01 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net, net@newenglandtriumphs.org From: robertten1@aol.com Received: from 96.233.64.253 by webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com (205.188.181.94) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 14 Feb 2013 23:44:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 23:44:01 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1360903441; bh=+Ri1NdgouweAsmtACaJ4KIxzg7izczOJUJW4aX4nC9k=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wRhT+hJs3zBelMyEMqbamWZ5CfwJu33KjqWO8HAGu+3yb+V4YrangglH9gGkEBEL0 BekSVrqMnMdeOo8FFrNimGE5KRRr6L0ITpp8Af4jadDWKxQ0ZarK7LxW11iwVET1/M M66Cl9LN7zTK9qqR2xtooSp11RS9ehqJ8KuftShs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2948511dbd115296 Subject: [Fot] damn embarrasing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Let me see ... A Triumph in the middle of nowhere with no power, failed electricals followed by a fire (?). Who would of thought. My 2 cents, Bob T PS now the comedians are starting to make the jokes, ha ha ha. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 16 14:49:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 748BB40452 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:49:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2B740526 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:30:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r1EKNInQ026630; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:23:18 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:23:18 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Jack Mc References: <10696.7536775c.3e4681cf@aol.com> <1360351576.44487.YahooMailRC@web184803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <5F4FC25785F847FDBCC34A6FF913D329@hpd530> <1360807701.62440.YahooMailRC@web184802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <6B956725-2E32-46A4-9E12-FC0CD8332B76@aol.com> Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Series 80 Koni adjustment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, Just to be clear, what Jack refers to is the fact that there are significant bending loads that can occur from both the normal motion of these telescopic shocks and supension bottoming that can occur because most of the tube shock conversions eliminate the lower bump stop in some manor, or at the very least change it. The point being that the SPRING (actually the wheel rate) limits the total weight transfer... so, in theory you can limit some of the bending load to the frame because of the shock. Note also that where the shock mounts to the trailing arm, there is an arcing motion, so this adds to the bending loads. So, if you can mount the shock at the trailing arm and the frame with heims joints, you should probably do so. As a point of information, the Gp 44 TR6 used the stock shock location on the trailing arm, albeit with considerable reinforcement and the top was secured to the roll cage. That setup is rock-solid - so a telescoping shock can be used. The key is where you mount it. Also, not mentioned to this point is the fact that "we" really can't know the condition of the frame in question and that would have considerable bearing on whether the setup will work or not. If this was my car, and I had no other options, I'd def. add "check rear upper crossmember" to the pre-event check for every event as this setup can result in failure in that area. I'll also point out from experience that the trailing arms themselves are prone to cracking either at the shock mount or between where the hub mounts and the pivot points, so if you go really, really stiff on the suspension, the trailing arms are likely to fail. On the other hand, you can set up the suspension fairly soft like it came from the factory... just don't chuck the car around or you'll bottom the suspension all the time and I'll guarantee that stuff will break. :-) rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 16 14:50:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9353E4051F for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:50:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm27-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm27-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.63]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 164F140526 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:38:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.48] by nm27.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2013 20:32:23 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.56] by tm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2013 20:32:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp207.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2013 20:32:23 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360873943; bh=S2a04mPKQmdw45tCnCTupCyIEhZXqdKjP5vbMFXsIAc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Date:Subject:Message-ID:From:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ivDpVWQEbcFTgmfvBbFPqsxGsspcVbId6CxBUwjaISaKNpzPqgOcnOWY+2O8EUjIW+DdJqjPeTP0LiLlYOMFuaTuROYjcVS7/rb0gEqeSYj8DNtlsuEKrJfvoIJ0xcqCpyST9bttT3NjsLWIop9JKpFZkQIMhTiu7n8ZI1tND3I= SSiOk7d5FAb6fNpPp9edeMg3P2xpD6kFnIq27Zpt8mm7ef6w7R._C5fh.mM_ dtMev8YDBE.kpxl_Adlet75aawc6vGnvzTIumMkopdBPgmB3peuvzkrdzAcz tE5Z7s.mEvRx6PUUmqaC4sPGFfm16uK8UV5t1z7e5M0DOJa2KkpVI_WFUMqY zAIZsgIL5NqpuWQUDfEcEmu6VOvi6Age39gW8rGiKDvGsWW_CD_q2_oo33RL fckExBDC9dF7kVJbBj21qiB9N5gEdaU.dCQT.QNESoEyFoBn0cDgBSxbJaq7 OfBthXhZ.D6DA7kQGiRtDH1qQo3_MZZnz2aAftnCbfaflwtTiIhqAfb_HfFV qHs9nQb.6gh6GfMZuapqu08eieoR9F1eynRj3znBIZKxvSfB7YgmW20YEF9w y73yBMmZpMc6D5BP16ME9E74Qi.q.IavVmXr1nWTOqw0CUZqhHOWZ6sDOYDa lzfGCrsNarWabp5JVwe4g1AizSxZnPRcBFQ-- Received: from [192.168.169.2] (dmitchel@68.79.92.102 with plain) by smtp207.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 2013 12:32:23 -0800 PST Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:32:03 -0500 From: Doug Mitchell To: RACER BUD Cc: Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Its damn'd embarrassing... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You know its interesting that Carnival owns Costa cruise line as well. What is funny, is that last year, we were going on a cruise the week after the Costa Concordia ran aground and this year we are leaving on a cruise this weekend. I don't know if I would schedule a cruise the week before me. Cheers, Doug -- Doug Mitchell dmitchel@sbcglobal.net RACER BUD wrote: >I'd Rather Be 'Sailing' >RB >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:58 AM >Subject: [Fot] Its damn'd embarrassing... > > >> Amici... >> >> Is anyone else embarrassed to learn that the poor, stalled Caribbean >> cruise >> ship TRIUMPH is being towed slowly back to Texas by a bunch of tug boats, >> after a fire caused engine failure. For days and days now, over 4,000 >> people >> are stranded on board dealing with lack of food, water, working toilet >> facilities, and other implorable conditions. I understand things stink to >> High >> Heaven. >> >> It is time for action. I move the FOT gets involved with a campaign to >> get >> this ship's name changed to FIAT, or some such. And, because this is >> important, as usual Joe Alexander should do all the work. >> >> Bill (Damdinger) >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dmitchel@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 16 14:50:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C675640535 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:50:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B2840526 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:17:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0DsB1l0060vp7WLACMBVZr; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:11:29 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0MBU1l0062vctGa8RMBU3T; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:11:28 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: , , "Joe Alexander" References: <65f1.24fce021.3e4e9be8@aol.com> <8CFD90DAE14EE63-13B0-8ED6@webmail-d013.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:11:28 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1360876289; bh=PnDtVdxVZYf0AQDsmqOsgYe/9tBrbmspREKSAweofo8=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JCSP7ix5qA5dwJ7CSu2fXR+OMB8dyXrzbXnyc/b3AtzvaFc56tq5OoCWLEZifRu33 YjonCUzOZ7IIwmzwDJutRBdJbO0zRDeHUFYiUVlesDBzdC3EOAvbxrE11aoQ53iGJU 7URtnzb0C/oKh/qIvz6mnX6l8oVEmWRPG1WXHthpPCmP6Shojd1nwMdYR0ZpyvZVNN 6SHgZHlxQxnv/8l802jW4DlmUDR2QtsutU0DmguCpIIvMQtbbsLdNxcUPC5TQoU2He PVs4OPfU28cZLLiZnvgnQDn0eJdeAmRS9pqduBX5TMj1bPdZMIkV8QzDLycKyx5WxZ fveTdkwc5WR0A== Subject: Re: [Fot] Its damn'd embarrassing... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Oh Lord! RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Alexander" To: ; Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Its damn'd embarrassing... >I am waiting for it to spring an OIL LEAK......... > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BillDentin > To: fot > Sent: Thu, Feb 14, 2013 1:59 pm > Subject: [Fot] Its damn'd embarrassing... > > > Amici... > > Is anyone else embarrassed to learn that the poor, stalled Caribbean > cruise > ship TRIUMPH is being towed slowly back to Texas by a bunch of tug boats, > after a fire caused engine failure. For days and days now, over 4,000 > people > are stranded on board dealing with lack of food, water, working toilet > facilities, and other implorable conditions. I understand things stink to > High > Heaven. > > It is time for action. I move the FOT gets involved with a campaign to > get > this ship's name changed to FIAT, or some such. And, because this is > important, as usual Joe Alexander should do all the work. > > Bill (Damdinger) > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 16 14:50:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF28740450 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:50:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9AB540526 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:25:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0Ljs1l0020EPchoA2MK1TD; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:19:01 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0MK01l00B4L5TyG8MMK05P; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:19:01 +0000 From: Bud R To: Joe Alexander Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:19:00 -0700 References: <65f1.24fce021.3e4e9be8@aol.com> <8CFD90DAE14EE63-13B0-8ED6@webmail-d013.sysops.aol.com> s=q20121106; t=1360876741; bh=oddlNU/feJYgeocAWxS4iwWtXcNPl/aCkMo10SqZT1k=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=Kz04GbwS/jhCfjmHTM8dyehxI/tPWaz+vLTRTOpmVT4cQ7aDDReZQPdnUmXxgfvZ6 t/r/O+DSdTKqb25S8lQUUtRN9CDoNkYZhNBKVonD7kZW8acGSqPoNrZOSs3OhGieVz rMKr9xoYWkZsyUuzVpTGHJpyejzEiBHxWBuoT+rHfraSr3tO5ykExVj/CZbrHl9slw sTZER99e+/1FQeIB5cqrArrC64ZowP6VyCLGIdMbL3nkcTWDc89+ws/ousicuccXjs 2giorAs8Y8v9ebRuw5aVAjd+Lg0fDuhsa2kChaYtVx5fwdC0gC6t4CUkqo48epr8aW mEXH/Iyak50YA== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Its damn'd embarrassing... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sounds like a TR road trip I've been on before. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Feb 14, 2013, at 2:02 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > stranded on board dealing with lack of food, water, working toilet > facilities, and other implorable conditions _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 16 14:51:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F4640449 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:51:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f45.google.com (mail-qa0-f45.google.com [209.85.216.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E506F40559 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:16:23 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id g10so181802qah.11 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:10:18 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=liuwvtCE9O/bk9/S8RqQA2De2JhABKjIF28jj3Bix/c=; b=G73zCnJWbSX3Xy4ESTizjWJ9yT2M0NbUJNLPOvc855RJ5+ml2/vss5hkAJ/29aDNEV vQAqKWaeK3tnB3Rp+bNQGrHRTxGQEgOMsTdOR8UuO0SRn9SYcEaKyn3XokA66K+WkDTz ov3nCZdrKnOaptsxX+NOdjZZnSpJq81YEnnTQC85r5o+vZBHX5lJimlAF7ECyW0tvudv MynBYzS+JU6vsVSa22jIxTCZkGgfd2rEJ0JjbRWmlJkCvOvglhbA+V5EDZNPmrEa1FHZ GuJat+Hhd+S2NkwhEgKONJERvxdY97knj/kATQVYiPqo2yZOgRgHPHakpYBQBRo2ubOn vRxg== Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:10:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.59.108 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:10:17 -0800 (PST) References: <65f1.24fce021.3e4e9be8@aol.com> <008d01ce0af8$a7939fc0$f6badf40$@rr.com> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:10:17 -0500 From: Robert Deanes To: Spitfire Racing Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Its damn'd embarrassing... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Now this ship is giving Triumph a bad name, now all the people on the boat will relate the name to bad news.Think the owners would go for a name change...possibly so ...especially to fill the cabins again.The tow rope broke today and it still can't get to port, at least we know how to fix our Triumphs. I agree with the Fiat name and they can call Tony! On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Spitfire Racing < Spitfire_Racing@twcny.rr.com> wrote: > Maybe Porsche, and paint some gold on the stacks.................. > > > .....so there's these folks who saved all year for a vacation, scheduled > vacation time and now this is what they get! Sure makes even a bad day at > the track seem pretty darn good. > > russ > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of BillDentin@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:59 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Its damn'd embarrassing... > > Amici... > > Is anyone else embarrassed to learn that the poor, stalled Caribbean cruise > ship TRIUMPH is being towed slowly back to Texas by a bunch of tug boats, > after a fire caused engine failure. For days and days now, over 4,000 > people are stranded on board dealing with lack of food, water, working > toilet facilities, and other implorable conditions. I understand things > stink to High Heaven. > > It is time for action. I move the FOT gets involved with a campaign to get > this ship's name changed to FIAT, or some such. And, because this is > important, as usual Joe Alexander should do all the work. > > Bill (Damdinger) > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 16 14:51:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C5D4055F for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:51:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc2-s13.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s13.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.88]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2A740400 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:15:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from BAY164-DS17 ([65.54.190.123]) by bay0-omc2-s13.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:09:53 -0800 From: "Terry Stetler" To: , , "Joe Alexander" References: <65f1.24fce021.3e4e9be8@aol.com> <8CFD90DAE14EE63-13B0-8ED6@webmail-d013.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:09:54 -0500 <8CFD90DAE14EE63-13B0-8ED6@webmail-d013.sysops.aol.com> Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:09:54 -0500 FILETIME=[659572A0:01CE0B08] Subject: Re: [Fot] Its damn'd embarrassing... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It's also listing, must have TR 6 springs on it. Terry Stetler _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 16 14:51:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA1DF4054F for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:51:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85AC94248B for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:37:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0QqS1l00417UAYkACSWsr7; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 02:30:52 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0SWq1l00R2vctGa8ZSWrKe; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 02:30:51 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "sherry robyn" , "Robert M. Lang" References: <10696.7536775c.3e4681cf@aol.com><1360351576.44487.YahooMailRC@web184803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><5F4FC25785F847FDBCC34A6FF913D329@hpd530><1360807701.62440.YahooMailRC@web184802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><6B956725-2E32-46A4-9E12-FC0CD8332B76@aol.com> <1360894698.12661.YahooMailRC@web184803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:30:49 -0800 s=q20121106; t=1360895452; bh=iywg38scwKWHkOsvMWFTodKDUdIKVtf1OJpIe87gij4=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=byxaUaYd0g2vO0ay/lVHaOE1OSFXRysE4tHBcnlsOXuYgPPuGyE2G5Su45qzssmAj zt4BiWh9DVVbeoSHquJlP8G90DtrpvYGH/DROrKPCNZi9gNRcwaZMXrFqX3M9xj5JL Iw2n/+FV+agrZRLLG/KFKcg8LkNTKW/V2v2c1Wlowz9iA5JZvi6LqEaIM3QIJ/wglJ HcWDKhT/8gBOl4zggRX096EkAXmr+5SW4Pk/2P41+2bV5t3Uma36oCafpHVFVV/WUi CeafIaWZDwFfOBog5wu0rqJTR6UEZ/q/Iw5zo2leJUVCFz/nJ8UFZosN2+EbLpgWS8 mQRK/lGJu4++Q== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Series 80 Koni adjustment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Heims Joint used to be a great place for a beer.. RB ----- Original Message ----- From: "sherry robyn" To: "Robert M. Lang" Cc: Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Series 80 Koni adjustment > On the suggestion to use heims joint, I can see that this principal could > be > advantageous but not sure how it would be done practically in the > application > of > tube shock conversion and the trailing arm. I can't quite see how to use > it on > either end. I would think that the larger shock mount holes and rubber > shock > mount bushing might have a similar affect to the heim joint. Jim > ________________________________ > From: Robert M. Lang > To: > Jack Mc > Cc: sherry robyn ; > "fot@autox.team.net" > > Sent: Thu, February 14, 2013 > 12:23:57 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Series 80 Koni adjustment > > Hi, > > Just to be > clear, what Jack refers to is the fact that there are significant > bending > loads that can occur from both the normal motion of these telescopic > shocks > and supension bottoming that can occur because most of the tube shock > conversions eliminate the lower bump stop in some manor, or at the very > least > change it. The point being that the SPRING (actually the wheel rate) > limits > the > total weight transfer... so, in theory you can limit some of the bending > load to > the frame because of the shock. Note also that where the shock mounts > to the > trailing arm, there is an arcing motion, so this adds to the bending > loads. So, > if you can mount the shock at the trailing arm and the frame with > heims joints, > you should probably do so. > > As a point of information, the Gp > 44 TR6 used the stock shock location on the > trailing arm, albeit with > considerable reinforcement and the top was secured to > the roll cage. That > setup is rock-solid - so a telescoping shock can be used. > The key is where > you mount it. > > Also, not mentioned to this point is the fact that "we" really > can't know the > condition of the frame in question and that would have > considerable bearing on > whether the setup will work or not. > > If this was my > car, and I had no other options, I'd def. add "check rear upper > crossmember" > to the pre-event check for every event as this setup can result in > failure in > that area. > > I'll also point out from experience that the trailing arms > themselves are prone > to cracking either at the shock mount or between where > the hub mounts and the > pivot points, so if you go really, really stiff on the > suspension, the trailing > arms are likely to fail. > > On the other hand, you can > set up the suspension fairly soft like it came from > the factory... just don't > chuck the car around or you'll bottom the suspension > all the time and I'll > guarantee that stuff will break. > > :-) > > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former > NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 > | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 16 14:52:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BDCA4068F for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:52:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (imr-mb01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.164]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F3A740424 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 05:22:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.74]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B0A481C000155; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 07:16:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dhb004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dhb004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.208.196]) by mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 86CC4E000085; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 07:16:05 -0500 (EST) References: <8CFD94E354A5714-1350-F52A@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> To: net@newenglandtriumphs.org, fot@autox.team.net From: chansonjag@aol.com Received: from 173.48.181.244 by webmail-m093.sysops.aol.com (64.12.102.43) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 15 Feb 2013 07:16:05 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 07:21:08 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1360930565; bh=4eKKbmmFzbri1fL82yb4W92D9DLZjMs3jv1C/+xQuT8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Fs2UpFlpw3WKF1gBRDQkMdYEXUuCEi6acNg3dKNLEfUhV8+7lyexBjwMEtxFJT79h rGSkgK7CtN0DszutNFhAwctW9xi8EN83MdfgmQ9h61OtrY5iqdKLA37OYy2GqnMobs utijHAmknfMRxD6v+p7qmyro8N0OmiSFBdAKFSGc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294a511e270535a8 Subject: Re: [Fot] [NET] damn embarrasing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Was there any mention of Lucas electrics? Carl Hanson 1973 TR6 -----Original Message----- From: robertten1 To: fot ; net Sent: Thu, Feb 14, 2013 11:49 pm Subject: [NET] damn embarrasing Let me see ... A Triumph in the middle of nowhere with no power, failed electricals followed by a fire (?). Who would of thought. My 2 cents, Bob T PS now the comedians are starting to make the jokes, ha ha ha. _______________________________________________ NET mailing list NET@newenglandtriumphs.org http://newenglandtriumphs.org/mailman/listinfo/net_newenglandtriumphs.org _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 17 11:50:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D711C40569 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 11:50:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.199]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE214054D for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 11:49:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.228.83.23] (46.sub-174-227-128.myvzw.com [174.227.128.46]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0MID00D4HO005KA0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 13:43:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 13:36:29 -0500 From: Todd Redmond To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Advise on vintage racing organization Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici Which organization rule book should I build the TR 3? Below are some of my parameters I'm in northern New Jersey Will race 4-6 weekends if I'm lucky Would prefer to build the car to the specs that will give me the broadest organization coverage. Don't want to do major changes for each one SVRA, VSCCA. When I raced SCCA IT( in one of them eyetalian cars). northern NJ had a vintage class. I think HRG. I think SCCA E-Prod is out of the question. BUT maybe not Thanks in advance. Todd Redmond 1958 TR 3 A Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 17 12:28:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4033A40564 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 12:28:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9818E4052E for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 12:28:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.4]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8B2021C000117; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 14:22:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.43.87.208] (mobile-198-228-224-127.mycingular.net [198.228.224.127]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id CF443E001EE2; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 14:22:13 -0500 (EST) References: <8B8ACED9-62A7-466B-81BD-00F6D6349878@optonline.net> From: Christopher Bock Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 14:22:08 -0500 To: Todd Redmond x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1361128934; bh=uzF8Z4nCZGIv1v7pT5FzsOLhUmQQ8+U2ZuIaAIC06sE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=Oahi/wCzlexqkgb8p05umMX3/2BjpCTWWYZtJPIsNCQRmSSARVrpPZ45AhBI2oQ1W aMe4uSc0BD++RycY4hjmwe0/BrxHXtNC8mjReJ9CDH/jghtcqtOKrBzxfZ7ftuitXK zsynnlmX9ZVCpGxbZPeQ9Ljs/Pf9elKtuZKt0ZiA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290451212de56f74 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Advise on vintage racing organization Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Look into Vintage Racing Group. I have a friend who races with them. Seems like a good group Chris On Feb 17, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Todd Redmond wrote: > Amici > Which organization rule book should I build the TR 3? Below are some of my parameters > I'm in northern New Jersey > Will race 4-6 weekends if I'm lucky > Would prefer to build the car to the specs that will give me the broadest organization coverage. Don't want to do major changes for each one > SVRA, VSCCA. When I raced SCCA IT( in one of them eyetalian cars). northern NJ had a vintage class. I think HRG. > I think SCCA E-Prod is out of the question. BUT maybe not > > Thanks in advance. > Todd Redmond > 1958 TR 3 A > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 17 12:57:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE234055F for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 12:57:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f65.google.com (mail-la0-f65.google.com [209.85.215.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D35B403F8 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:05:28 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-la0-f65.google.com with SMTP id fq12so1036228lab.0 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:59:14 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=LU5/mpQnc20WcyXg/2rgK3qmszO6Q1qReMs+rBL1KQ4=; b=wcFxL45qE1bfqOrRbo50O5nePlHOgW2evce38slPnJnJKT8yTbV/bKJjmOBZ31oq+j Em+oqv98lx7gsyUhRpwf9EQAHJym6GElvmsDzGGlqEfbpj+ck4b2YMR1KaU9vppnnMQW 71OHw9+HyJ/RYQS+173bullIUA2kmdc62bUw3Tsxyx7BVwdCwc/0fvbfm20wqLlrhoDz BXTfuYZbGW29k3FpRhYFaINQzgH6c5ofkJo94x12p+Txl8o0u3OHUU6DXSAdUZmeGy+W 6FxBIA163irYuBkkWobNDqkybbaPS3OkkS1VJriEMONtTgqvOC6rT0yocpwVWXPnfr5I iejA== ou10mr5933140lab.56.1361044754092; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:59:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.33.48 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:58:33 -0800 (PST) From: Kas Kastner Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:58:33 -0800 To: fot Subject: [Fot] E Mail change Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net My new E mail is changed to kaskastner@gmail.com. *Never be beaten by equipment.* _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 17 12:58:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E0A40569 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 12:58:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-gg0-f177.google.com (mail-gg0-f177.google.com [209.85.161.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E06540406 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 18:24:23 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-gg0-f177.google.com with SMTP id q1so361568gge.36 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:18:08 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=x-received:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from :subject:date:to; bh=7lb+/B+Hd0qLBOMcxZCMTwsvNu13SMHkcdaYsTs6TX8=; b=uPFJBK1tqxmAiNRUiZajBmofuueFIUDOsiUfHz3gTxqlTcpAcaqjaSb/vXfcbZEn7t 3/qsPac8PA3pZzGaJoNzOcA5UC7YLnTrGCpasIArwYrXdPl6Z4mQT8oMgt584/AtQOP+ Q7h1r2ufpTXnVOaXzuzBmNswNKaArN8rybLzYw6eEimouu0/0Zrn/o4i89spM+HMiqao LAnW6fLVsZRVWpv7Hqtpgi4FAV471CbNLXu0JOZNzhrD/4VNEbudhoIpxfiE6ma1wsvl dbjuHLOrvEX6ow7VpxF9F7aZ54QApu7jm3IM8tSk9ncCBlY95+VMrjcHSeDk//Nd8slR Z4kA== v5mr11467149yhi.49.1361063887864; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:18:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.91.212.184] ([166.205.49.37]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k24sm102535428yhd.5.2013.02.16.17.18.06 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:18:06 -0800 (PST) References: <8CFD94E354A5714-1350-F52A@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> <8CFD98D5CC9C4ED-13D4-410@webmail-m093.sysops.aol.com> From: Susan Kahler Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 20:17:18 -0500 To: "chansonjag@aol.com" Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" , "net@newenglandtriumphs.org" Subject: Re: [Fot] [NET] damn embarrasing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I think the whole thing can be traced back to the loss of the cruise control... Susan ;) Sent from my iPhone On Feb 15, 2013, at 7:21 AM, chansonjag@aol.com wrote: > Was there any mention of Lucas electrics? > > Carl Hanson > 1973 TR6 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: robertten1 > To: fot ; net > Sent: Thu, Feb 14, 2013 11:49 pm > Subject: [NET] damn embarrasing > > > Let me see ... A Triumph in the middle of nowhere with no power, failed > electricals followed by a fire (?). Who would of thought. > > My 2 cents, > Bob T > > PS now the comedians are starting to make the jokes, ha ha ha. > > _______________________________________________ > NET mailing list > NET@newenglandtriumphs.org > http://newenglandtriumphs.org/mailman/listinfo/net_newenglandtriumphs.org > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfiresuz@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 17 16:16:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF9940567 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 16:16:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB08E40409 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 16:16:13 -0700 (MST) a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:17 a=7KaaxAUCt-sA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=0A2Len3_-nMA:10 a=xO0rjo7fZHa_t6-QIdsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=61u6LuPjcgQFW0FLykAA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:117 Received: from [67.255.16.235] ([67.255.16.235:49581] helo=Russlaptop) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id E2/E7-27807-F3361215; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 23:09:51 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 18:09:47 -0500 thread-index: Ac4NY+GE2w0RFsPdTumAxbnaNun9AQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] TR-6 clutch disk experiences Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Folks, I am close to getting a TR6 project moving along again. I started at the rear bumper and am now up to the firewall with the engine and pretty much the entire rest of the drive train rebuilt. I know a number of years back there was much conversation among some entities that "Magic" was required to get a clutch to work in a TR6. I never abided to that train of thought and identified it more as a mis-match of wrong parts. What I have is a new lightweight flywheel that is being mated with a LUK pressure plate. I have an AP clutch disk new in the box and also a LUK with maybe 10K on it. Are there any problems experienced with the AP brand of clutch disk as sold out of western PA maybe 15 years ago? Thanks Russ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 17 18:28:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F874052E for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 18:28:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s7.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s7.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0953403E8 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:51:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU168-W3 ([65.55.116.9]) by blu0-omc1-s7.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 17 Feb 2013 16:44:56 -0800 From: marty sukey To: , Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 19:44:55 -0500 References: <8B8ACED9-62A7-466B-81BD-00F6D6349878@optonline.net>, <460727E4-5696-4FA5-9C09-D34FC1D6AF2E@aol.com> FILETIME=[2C280990:01CE0D71] Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Advise on vintage racing organization Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net VRG lets me show up. Nor sure if that is good or bad for the rest of the field but I enjoy their events. Marty ---------------------------------------- > From: SeaCubeCo@aol.com > Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 14:22:08 -0500 > To: alfetta95@optonline.net > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Advise on vintage racing organization > > Look into Vintage Racing Group. > I have a friend who races with them. Seems like a good group > > Chris > > On Feb 17, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Todd Redmond wrote: > > > Amici > > Which organization rule book should I build the TR 3? Below are some of my > parameters > > I'm in northern New Jersey > > Will race 4-6 weekends if I'm lucky > > Would prefer to build the car to the specs that will give me the broadest > organization coverage. Don't want to do major changes for each one > > SVRA, VSCCA. When I raced SCCA IT( in one of them eyetalian cars). northern > NJ had a vintage class. I think HRG. > > I think SCCA E-Prod is out of the question. BUT maybe not > > > > Thanks in advance. > > Todd Redmond > > 1958 TR 3 A > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 18 06:54:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7247D40512 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 06:54:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bosmailout10.eigbox.net (bosmailout10.eigbox.net [66.96.186.10]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 022EF4051C for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 06:53:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from bosmailscan03.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.3]) by bosmailout10.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1U7R3U-0000vs-VE for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 08:46:52 -0500 Received: from bosimpout04.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.4]) by bosmailscan03.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1U7R3U-0003kT-MQ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 08:46:52 -0500 Received: from bosauthsmtp01.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.1]) by bosimpout04.eigbox.net with NO UCE id 1pms1l00A01P9Sa01pmsyX; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 08:46:52 -0500 a=aWjz572ezeFQN6BEx97l/A==:17 a=3-MZCWuAnnEA:10 a=YoTbn79uxK4A:10 a=t3sQPXBKs2_qyl-oOoAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=DfH3EhPIp-DaZ1BCXrsA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=hD9mH0hfWv8lqv47:21 a=FLmnjis/JmE4jomwi6pJ+A==:117 Received: from ppp-70-253-94-203.dsl.austtx.swbell.net ([70.253.94.203] helo=zap6) by bosauthsmtp01.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1U7R3S-0000SE-BM; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 08:46:52 -0500 From: "Robert MacKenzie" To: , Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 07:46:29 -0600 thread-index: Ac4N3lj7C640KGBtTjynoZbpNVxtpw== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] 1147 Race Engine? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Does anybody have an 1147 Race Engine they want to sell? Please contact me offline at robert AT mackenzie DOT aero Thanks! _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 18 10:43:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E5B40567 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:43:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D44E40536 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:43:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.34.52]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MIF004FMFL2OK20@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 11:36:39 -0600 (CST) From: "Bill Tobin" To: Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 12:36:38 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Marty Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Marty, in response to your earlier message, I replied to all, but it got bounced. Here's my reply; As Groucho once said, "I'd never belong to a club that would have me as a member!" Great quote. VRG is a great bunch of folks who always put on a nice event. You should consider the Jefferson 500 in May at Summit Point. Nice track and a lot of fun. The organizers have always offered a deal that if you sign up early, you get a free test day. And you can buy power for the weekend for about $20. Bring your big extension cord. See you there. Bill _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 18 11:22:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3176740571 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 11:22:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72E94051C for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 05:51:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.34.52]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MIF008K723EGE00@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 06:45:16 -0600 (CST) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "marty sukey" , , References: <8B8ACED9-62A7-466B-81BD-00F6D6349878@optonline.net>, <460727E4-5696-4FA5-9C09-D34FC1D6AF2E@aol.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 07:45:14 -0500 Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Advise on vintage racing organization Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Marty, remember what Groucho said, "I wouldn't be a member of a club that would have me as a member"! Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "marty sukey" To: ; Cc: "FOT" Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 7:44 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Advise on vintage racing organization > VRG lets me show up. Nor sure if that is good or bad for the rest of the > field > but I enjoy their events. > > Marty > ---------------------------------------- >> From: SeaCubeCo@aol.com >> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 14:22:08 -0500 >> To: alfetta95@optonline.net >> CC: fot@autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Advise on vintage racing organization >> >> Look into Vintage Racing Group. >> I have a friend who races with them. Seems like a good group >> >> Chris >> >> On Feb 17, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Todd Redmond >> wrote: >> >> > Amici >> > Which organization rule book should I build the TR 3? Below are some of > my >> parameters >> > I'm in northern New Jersey >> > Will race 4-6 weekends if I'm lucky >> > Would prefer to build the car to the specs that will give me the >> > broadest >> organization coverage. Don't want to do major changes for each one >> > SVRA, VSCCA. When I raced SCCA IT( in one of them eyetalian cars). > northern >> NJ had a vintage class. I think HRG. >> > I think SCCA E-Prod is out of the question. BUT maybe not >> > >> > Thanks in advance. >> > Todd Redmond >> > 1958 TR 3 A >> > >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > _______________________________________________ >> > fot@autox.team.net >> > >> > http://www.fot-racing.com >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 18 13:06:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96AA940552 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:06:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (unknown [76.96.59.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52064040D for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 12:56:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.87]) by qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 1ot21l0011swQuc5DvpLTj; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 19:49:20 +0000 Received: from CraigHP ([76.100.209.245]) by omta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 1vpL1l00R5JDEd03bvpLvB; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 19:49:20 +0000 From: "Craig Wensley" To: "'Bill Tobin'" , References: Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 14:49:21 -0500 Thread-Index: AQJKTLZ8wnNADtbEY2/ffli7yyARaZeHh5vQ Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1361216960; bh=SHONLjfktrQrV4EY0RpoCEW13CB5flqrRcBT1k8XnsI=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=O5IYOma8DeMA74xZw0NVe9/X7+CxcN9DWkpXqvgOIzDGK2gbzLb255JoSMTDfxMHt FSE7TgWpBDVL7a9QI4prcvAaCjge8dE4PGQOqaSmyrC5wwK5WmIXtD1IYXCt6t73WR NjUdHEF7CYWexOkRx6aFjwE3Aq1n6NoL28BRlH6pauz2+XsyibqC+We20nt0f3Hdzl y36b8CPKTJMYQc4/H2leqZwYlN+AFtESV1EuDWCT7Zvaap3JP6T4vrLcJrAOMWO6SO 65KcO5tKvNDyadZv5vT0+8ODCdzEHB1vYHSCt+HcNzmnJ7m43ljcpastPwn0Qmg88W oiu7RMMqyMq2g== Subject: Re: [Fot] Marty Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net See Marty they even let Bill in at Summit Point (all though I don't know why) -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Tobin Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 12:37 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Marty Marty, in response to your earlier message, I replied to all, but it got bounced. Here's my reply; As Groucho once said, "I'd never belong to a club that would have me as a member!" Great quote. VRG is a great bunch of folks who always put on a nice event. You should consider the Jefferson 500 in May at Summit Point. Nice track and a lot of fun. The organizers have always offered a deal that if you sign up early, you get a free test day. And you can buy power for the weekend for about $20. Bring your big extension cord. See you there. Bill _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/wensley_tr@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 18 13:31:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6C94056A for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:31:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.wcnet.org (mailhub.wcnet.org [64.31.64.4]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7299340540 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:28:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from authmail.wcnet.org (authmail.wcnet.org [64.31.64.16]) by mail.wcnet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9161874149 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:22:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from SnookPC (rrcs-98-102-104-227.central.biz.rr.com [98.102.104.227]) by authmail.wcnet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D524205CB for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:21:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Jeff Snook" To: References: Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:21:50 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4OCX8WE3Xgfw5VS4+TMqWTpExjGgACznow Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Vintage Racing Organizations Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net IMHO, if you prepare your car to SVRA requirements you will be good to go with any East Coast or Mid West group with the exception of VSCCA (which doesn't allow many TR3s anyway). And, SVRA has good information on their website regarding their requirements. We've prepared my car to their vintage specs for almost 20 years and have been accepted anywhere I've tried. Any questions, and you can contact their technical guy online. Jeff Snook http://www.snooksdreamcars.com 419-344-0319 (Mobile) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 18 13:36:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65EF40566 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:36:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88A6D40540 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:36:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.34.52]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MIF002MTNLSIO10@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 14:29:54 -0600 (CST) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Craig Wensley" , References: <001401ce0e11$0bccb100$23661300$@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:29:53 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Marty Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I think it had something to do with money: I had a check and they wanted it! Great bunch. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Wensley" To: "'Bill Tobin'" ; Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 2:49 PM Subject: RE: [Fot] Marty > See Marty they even let Bill in at Summit Point (all though I don't know > why) > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Bill Tobin > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 12:37 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Marty > > Marty, in response to your earlier message, I replied to all, but it got > bounced. > Here's my reply; As Groucho once said, "I'd never belong to a club that > would have me as a member!" > Great quote. > VRG is a great bunch of folks who always put on a nice event. You should > consider the Jefferson 500 in May at Summit Point. Nice track and a lot of > fun. The organizers have always offered a deal that if you sign up early, > you get a free test day. And you can buy power for the weekend for about > $20. > Bring your big extension cord. > See you there. > Bill > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/wensley_tr@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 18 17:41:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7644064D for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:41:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dub0-omc4-s24.dub0.hotmail.com (dub0-omc4-s24.dub0.hotmail.com [157.55.2.99]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6780A40565 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:41:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from DUB117-W65 ([157.55.2.71]) by dub0-omc4-s24.dub0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:34:37 -0800 From: Windows Live Team To: , "fot@Autox.Team.Net" Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 00:34:37 +0000 References: <8B8ACED9-62A7-466B-81BD-00F6D6349878@optonline.net> FILETIME=[E5E635B0:01CE0E38] Subject: Re: [Fot] Advise on vintage racing organization Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Todd, I've raced with HRG for over 10 years with my TR3. Lot of nice people. Most also run in vintage and SCCA. I'm not real competative against 240zs and BMWs but who cares. I still have a lot of fun. The cars are based on 1973(I believe) SCCA rules. This why I run with them as I don't have the expense of updating my car. Lorne Fitz> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 13:36:29 -0500 > From: alfetta95@optonline.net > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Advise on vintage racing organization > > Amici > Which organization rule book should I build the TR 3? Below are some of my parameters > I'm in northern New Jersey > Will race 4-6 weekends if I'm lucky > Would prefer to build the car to the specs that will give me the broadest organization coverage. Don't want to do major changes for each one > SVRA, VSCCA. When I raced SCCA IT( in one of them eyetalian cars). northern NJ had a vintage class. I think HRG. > I think SCCA E-Prod is out of the question. BUT maybe not > > Thanks in advance. > Todd Redmond > 1958 TR 3 A > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/lfritz82@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 18 17:56:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D004068F for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:56:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com (outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com [64.136.47.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C40F340567 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:55:53 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1361234966; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=E11imMiVXBVGuy5GHhhEx6+SsIq7x+zVBsZW61nIp3lqMXeekcQ72v4AutheVCRUt XIL313FbKtmAy3pdKT/rjGbjgokZpXtmKeN9gTONDWh9BwyY0OPA7H45gL/SoTxysV GM+Gazi0IYUCf5hJLnQkVTjbushy9VrXcAGHALzk= Received: from outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com (webmail03.dca.untd.com [10.171.12.143]) by smtpout02.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABJUFU9ZACVG66S for (sender ); Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:48:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [69.193.6.196] by webmail03.dca.untd.com with HTTP: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 00:47:34 GMT From: "Joe Boruch" Full-Name: "Joe Boruch" Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 00:47:34 GMT To: alfetta95@optonline.net Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Advise on vintage racing organization Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Todd, if you build it to SCCA production specs as far as safety equipment you will probably exceed the specs for the vintage groups, but you should check all the rules. One rule that I found SVRA stricter was requiring tow hooks even on open cars. You can still come play in EP, I am still racing my TR3 in EP. My car with the big flared fenders, however is not eligible for most vintage racing groups. The NE SCCA still has HRG, which was Volvo Historic Series (VHS) at one time. I don't remember if it was VHS or HRG when you raced your eyetalian car. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Todd Redmond To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Advise on vintage racing organization Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 13:36:29 -0500 Amici Which organization rule book should I build the TR 3? Below are some of my parameters I'm in northern New Jersey Will race 4-6 weekends if I'm lucky Would prefer to build the car to the specs that will give me the broadest organization coverage. Don't want to do major changes for each one SVRA, VSCCA. When I raced SCCA IT( in one of them eyetalian cars). northern NJ had a vintage class. I think HRG. I think SCCA E-Prod is out of the question. BUT maybe not Thanks in advance. Todd Redmond 1958 TR 3 A Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 19 11:14:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49BFB40E44 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 11:14:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm26.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm26.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.153]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CEBD40E27 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:30:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.103] by nm26.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2013 16:24:23 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.83] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2013 16:24:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1020.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2013 16:24:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 75494 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Feb 2013 16:24:22 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361291062; bh=aJSN0sST8DOUsU5LthUf+JfEJE8qimWplJzgSbEb9IY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=e6lY98IUD6dS6Y+ZVzHG6L8lRFB6S2ObIvV2VPK7xCNiX34eqUvfgEoP2YzrXO3+a3LWBYld1YLMMK6ApC4Dg9ofr3DJaIPtyNBbixluvlXoSSGEFBdystzBHzTUduiBaFOE82FzWCZ3HyGiPuTB65sPGIbr1AYpGPxdCgKey/E= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=WUsHyAWVY9MCzP8ePhHhUIyofk59xI+JJWna+8Oz8glv8VmJw+uQxc6c5xHEIki290CUGSmoNmIPhhMijTFWtEbS3UpVyGx8corxEi4H+t4aDfBCJK03DhISus9y59QI3RlZ7W7qcGlnz3aWKD3YB9/VDWkGXe5qk8o3FrjJztQ=; Ct57mvO4eZHi6oPCOCJKwOwNEH8EmKvHTKeRRwLvImcdJrU.E9epBdvKpDmz .sSlnLxBo8gb9dVjFoj9bkMjBaXLk2.UWK.5unN5oT0OYADlZnn_JAwFov.a nHHDlea__A4Uoy03RpGoNQAVyXV8VLwWrceF7AvF7hYVrkQQR3Z.uvQVxjdw rY4s_GSqmpYOZu6IB20qvV8FdQGGN4vwHTveOEE9UQeOPgoSNvJyxHLd9kCT s6phj_1d5pmbaSyoQld4OTMpK._hU5lxR4pkdI_2bWD5IGyrY9kWhpm_RuTe fTSTERJhOq7s8zM5NQ1Oc22NeSnDH7DPIVEq6awIG2WBFhGNgSbdqZNqQQr5 1pHMdziqanXC09y.OeJjwntDBiMqyu.qljge3.CGPgiqH6hRqWlNVpXwEJo9 JgIOcTtjA0puDSEmXbR.y.PW_MFOVEDL34B8QWObpQ4DGqIfkmATXREGLIN9 2iVc- Received: from [99.162.149.142] by web184805.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:24:22 PST QWxsLAoKSSdtIGxvb2tpbmcgZm9yIHNvbWUgZ3VpZGFuY2XCoHNlbGVjdGluZyBuZXcgdmFsdmUgc3ByaW5ncyBhbmQgwqBzZXR0aW5nIHZhbHZlIApzcHJpbmcgcHJlc3N1cmVzIG9uIGEgNjQgU3BpdGZpcmUgdXNlZCBmb3IgdmludGFnZSByYWNpbmcuCgpFbmdpbmUgaW5mbzoKMTE0NyArIC4wNDAswqAgYmxvY2sgYW5kIGhlYWQgc2hhdmVkIHBlciBjb21wIG1hbnVhbCwgY29tcHJlc3Npb24gYWJvdXQgMTI6MQpDYW0gPSBLYXN0bmVyIEE3LCAuNDEyIGxpZnQswqAgZHVyYXRpb24gMjQyIEAgLjA1MC4gc3QBMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:24:22 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Pettenati To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Advise on Valve springs - Spitfire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net All, I'm looking for some guidance selecting new valve springs and setting valve spring pressures on a 64 Spitfire used for vintage racing. Engine info: 1147 + .040, block and head shaved per comp manual, compression about 12:1 Cam = Kastner A7, .412 lift, duration 242 @ .050. stock rockers, tappets 2x SU HS2 carbs, large intake valves Rev limiter set at 7200 RPM, shift at 6500-7000 RPM British Parts Northwest provided the following specs on their dual spring kits. VS703K @1.340 Seat 70lbs, lift .412 175lbs VS6624 @1.340 Seat 35lbs, lift .412 145lbs I'm thinking the VS703K looks like a good choice, and the VS6624 would be a bit too light on seat pressure. Thanks for any insight. Tim _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 20 02:56:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C1240E3D for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2013 02:56:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.193]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198C240412 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2013 02:52:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from geoffPC (c220-239-97-219.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.97.219]) (authenticated sender gkbyrne) by mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r1K9kIW9006584 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2013 20:46:19 +1100 From: "geoff byrne" To: "Friends of Triumph" Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 20:46:21 +1100 thread-index: Ac4PTsCkxiJKBZ+tTYeNmuxYyp3Kug== Content-Language: en-au a=r5rPV53SG5AC6IMDVYsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=XDzkYp2MQaOw_hCmDKYA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=n/CIiUKuP8r6VOFQHWj+kw==:117 Subject: [Fot] GT6 con rods Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici Has anyone come up with a replacement OEM longer conrod for the 2litre GT6 motor to allow the TR6 pistons to be used Geoff Byrne TR6 racer down under _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 20 14:00:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D22F640E37 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2013 14:00:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail202c2.megamailservers.com (mail202c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD20A403DB for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2013 14:00:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) by mail202c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r1KKrY8B016746 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2013 15:53:40 -0500 From: "john hasty" To: "'FoT Triumph'" Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 15:53:33 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4PrFh9MmQX/aH0TGyuqXgHmIz+UQ== a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=FnBkQJ4B3a1gK2ORc1sA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: [Fot] Exhaust Header Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net What is the group's advice on the best place to find a good TR4 exhaust header. We seem to have "exploded" ours at the Road Atlanta race last weekend..... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 20 18:34:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22FDB40E3D for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2013 18:34:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D164F40433 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2013 18:33:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([unknown] [96.240.176.86]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MIJ007MHQP3LZY8@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 20 Feb 2013 19:27:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 20:27:08 -0500 From: "J.C. Hassall" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100722 Eudora/3.0.4 To: john hasty References: Cc: 'FoT Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Exhaust Header Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 2/20/2013 3:53 PM, john hasty wrote: > What is the group's advice on the best place to find a good TR4 exhaust > header. We seem to have "exploded" ours at the Road Atlanta race last > weekend..... > > John, TSI sells a good one. Furthermore, I used the thick gasket Tony Drews has and am delighted with the results. jim -- Jim Hassall Blacksburg VA '63 TR4 in autox preparation 99% finished, 90% to go _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 22 06:59:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB34F40435 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 06:59:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B614240418 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 06:59:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r1MDqj08027993 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 08:52:45 -0500 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 08:52:45 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Overdrive Query Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I was going through some notes yesterday and I found a reference from a friend suggesting that a "P-type" overdrive may be a good upgrade to look into. This suggestion was based on several points, not the least of which was that you can get new, modern replacement parts and that they are built to handle rediculous power (like 600 HP). Don't quote me on the power number, but the point is that they are overbuilt compared to A-types and J-types. They're also designed to withstand stupid-big line pressure, like 780 PSI, so they're capable of instant shifts. So, that made me poke around a bit and see what I could find and in the small amount of searching that I did, I came across Gear Vendors - they do upgrades for all sorts of applications and it looks like they either use teh P-type or they build a knock-off of it. I plan to do some more research on the matter, but I wanted to throw this out to the FOT to see if anyone has any direct experience with Gear Vendors and / or with the P-type mounted to a Triumph gearbox. And, no, I haven't chatted with John Esposito. Yet. Regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 22 07:37:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D9B424AC for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:37:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dfn.com (mail.dfn.com [74.116.128.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E496B403DA for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:37:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] [199.83.117.102] by dfn.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-11.5) id 31ca004c32bbaf95; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:30:48 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:30:38 -0700 From: Michael Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: "Robert M. Lang" References: Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Overdrive Query Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 2/22/2013 6:52 AM, Robert M. Lang wrote: > Hi, > > I plan to do some more research on the matter, but I wanted to throw > this out to the FOT to see if anyone has any direct experience with > Gear Vendors and / or with the P-type mounted to a Triumph gearbox. > Here's a little something from the UK on a P-type conversion (GT6): http://club.triumph.org.uk/cgi-bin/forum10/Blah.pl?m-1326400553/ Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 22 16:24:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74A1403D9 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 16:24:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f45.google.com (mail-qa0-f45.google.com [209.85.216.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B9E403D9 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 16:21:51 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id g10so689404qah.11 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:15:07 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=U+uFjIW4H2Jg1HikEesGOplrPFparZ6eH8q32BHoCFk=; b=R2a6WQ1krRmKCLCzibNSm4PpoXEg6df0Sa3VOaKsb9hFqzTlIJXTmCKe7mmOlBammB 2xVyU0rXx7DwNyL/ig9Qz+HxJ/aHKbWyVjJXnsssnliNd0NYjx31CyxgZdWuKtPkuSpT 1GX2L9jWg2XcwGnAGv0EgiW2eh8NvLm9rMZ/smAQOgfnI2CQTugv+VMb+PbPb/M0VH9U Bp7qlufBuKCo+2WAkQ1OYhAYSW70FgQ/7PNJOfnd1x+L3h+oI2hZxu6d9KmNry7TBxgk nBvuvkAXgNYHk/Au2urzlVNSGArsmt9xjnM7LSYH4phCQkSDlsGBtbOxJ1Zy9orsorbI D2CA== d6mr2066516qak.30.1361574907480; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:15:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.106.229 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:14:47 -0800 (PST) From: "Enquiries Road & Track" Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 09:14:47 +1000 To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] re Overdrive Query Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net there are 2 versions of P type I have found one as per link was just a minor update of the J.... changes to valve design, stiffer centre case same as Triumph Dollomite Sprint. commonly used in volvos and as made up till recently and sold by "Gear Vendors" in USA the version I have found in 740 turbo has a much bigger roller cell clutch and bigger pins on the planet gears. these wont fit onto Triumph mainshafts . externally they look almost the same Terry O'Beirne Australia _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 24 08:42:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A274051B for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 08:42:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com (mail-vc0-f169.google.com [209.85.220.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1A24044E for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 08:39:52 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id n10so1294978vcn.14 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 07:33:00 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=0BwzQ6wQJDddPxKPIailfuOKSssZ9GaRQ0JV2/qKRJg=; b=ZIpZkdn2vyjSQ+WE6fwzSB/DUXk7EIdQJZBCmEGyb8Uc75IXkuPyCMymEnZQRseecT AGXwHAM8qkKpMu+ypEALW9ucA7s1v8sZ0IsIXU3wyq4OB6iwFUL7vVl546uJuDW47uqD CsQ7tR9+d9fykKCj92UNv6lybiU9q1AqyC2mk3Eh84quDgG0ePuXEt3bjSBRCFOaR/Vy k3e0qton9UO5BytEw/RLwJzFv8J3s6XuVO+vUhzA5qPThxRc+rxYzD87uc9lot8ohpju e5nwODR0RdWzlG4yvWV8j8a5yiSu4xf8zmDpOtID69whJOac02iDSisTqj466odX7XsY M/7Q== ss5mr9032377vec.14.1361719980805; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 07:33:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.132.177 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 07:33:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 07:33:00 -0800 From: Mark Vaden To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Finally raced! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Everyone, After 2 long years I finally got the tr4a back on the track. Here is the bring a trailer ad with some pictures from when I purchased the car. http://bringatrailer.com/2010/08/16/mothballed-racer-triumph-tr4/. Here is a video from last weekend: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPuv4aFcm7w Thanks to all the FOTers who answered various questions along the way. I had some carb issues which I worked out, and a bubble in the radiator. Ultimately the differential failed, embarassingly caused by a missing cotter pin. Somehow at least 4 of us missed it. But still great to run again after years off. -Mark _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 24 08:50:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5F24052A for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 08:50:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8E54044E for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 08:50:01 -0700 (MST) a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:17 a=a1-zNaUMPu0A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=jHjkonmN5M1eq7hQnakA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=VG70xfsRMOoA:10 a=T80B5jtXkwEA:10 a=7VoKgfd6DMB_hhLfp0YA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=LTuAqMkK0vT1Iy3u:21 a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:117 Received: from [75.86.207.181] ([75.86.207.181:56857] helo=HPLaptop) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 6F/87-02677-D053A215; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:43:09 +0000 From: "Steve Yott" To: "'fot'" Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 09:43:09 -0600 Organization: Silver Lake Triumphs Thread-Index: Ac4SpaULTtxyP194T9ek0bY1pgwi8A== Subject: [Fot] Oil Pumps Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net TR3 & 4 drivers! I have three modified oil pumps available from the most recent batch. If interested please contact me off list. Thanks much Steve Yott tr4@wi.rr.com 262-997-0701 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 24 09:16:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761AE40453 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 09:16:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BBDF40047 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 09:15:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.181.73.112] (197.sub-70-193-200.myvzw.com [70.193.200.197]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0MIQ00EB6FJ1X060@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 11:09:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 11:09:00 -0500 From: Todd Redmond To: Mark Vaden References: Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Finally raced! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Congrats Mark! Go get em! Sent from my iPhone On Feb 24, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Mark Vaden wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > After 2 long years I finally got the tr4a back on the track. Here is the > bring a trailer ad with some pictures from when I purchased the car. > http://bringatrailer.com/2010/08/16/mothballed-racer-triumph-tr4/. Here is > a video from last weekend: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPuv4aFcm7w > > Thanks to all the FOTers who answered various questions along the way. I > had some carb issues which I worked out, and a bubble in the radiator. > Ultimately the differential failed, embarassingly caused by a missing > cotter pin. Somehow at least 4 of us missed it. But still great to run > again after years off. > > -Mark > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 24 12:54:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB98640511 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 12:54:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from sitemail.siteprotect.com (sitemail.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.155]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4661D40355 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 12:54:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by app04.sm.onr.chicago.hostway (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15850400217; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 13:47:46 -0600 (CST) To: "'fot'" , "Steve Yott" Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 13:47:46 -0600 From: Charly Subject: Re: [Fot] Oil Pumps Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; } Does anyone know of the modification's for a TR6 oil pump? Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 On Sun 24/02/13 7:43 AM , "Steve Yott" tr4@wi.rr.com sent: TR3 & 4 drivers! I have three modified oil pumps available from the most recent batch. If interested please contact me off list. Thanks much Steve Yott 262-997-0701 _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com [3] Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html [4] Archive: http://www.team.net/archive [5] Forums: http://www.team.net/forums [6] Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ [7] Links: ------ [3] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fot-racing .com [4] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Fdonate.html [5] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Farchive [6] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Fforums [7] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net %2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Ffot%2Fcharly%40mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 24 17:02:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A87CD40562 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 17:02:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA7440687 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 16:59:19 -0700 (MST) a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:17 a=a1-zNaUMPu0A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=sU9WSOJIBPIA:10 a=p_3VnqCNAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=63ZeGP-LkHxAhm71ZmUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=VG70xfsRMOoA:10 a=T80B5jtXkwEA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=W4oarAnCkt8A:10 a=dZ5Bg8YmICfQ1Vtb0yIA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=GGs9iBOq5tJJEHjx:21 a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:117 Received: from [75.86.207.181] ([75.86.207.181:58816] helo=HPLaptop) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 7D/EB-13457-8B7AA215; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:52:25 +0000 From: "Steve Yott" To: , "'fot'" Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 17:52:24 -0600 Organization: Silver Lake Triumphs Thread-Index: Ac4Sx9KENsP14lGdSYO+3E/RgD90CAAITBWw Subject: Re: [Fot] Oil Pumps Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Charley, Other than doing a good "blue printing" to the specs in the books the TR6 pump seems to be a very reliable unit. There have been a number of Tractor motor pump failures of different types that revolve around the inner rotor. The new pump design that I produce solves these issues and makes for a very reliable part. That is all I know and welcome any other input. I would like to make the TR6 pump with a pressure oiling system like the modified Tractor pump but the TR6 pump end cap does not have enough depth remaining for a stub shaft. This would require a new end cap casting which would be overly costly at this time. Steve Yott _____ From: Charly [mailto:charly@mitchelplumbing.com] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:48 PM To: 'fot'; Steve Yott Subject: Re: [Fot] Oil Pumps Does anyone know of the modification's for a TR6 oil pump? Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 On Sun 24/02/13 7:43 AM , "Steve Yott" tr4@wi.rr.com sent: TR3 & 4 drivers! I have three modified oil pumps available from the most recent batch. If interested please contact me off list. Thanks much Steve Yott tr4@wi.rr.com 262-997-0701 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 25 09:44:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A752C4051F for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 09:44:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.159]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D932A403FD for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 09:41:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from Charly (unknown [97.126.71.73]) (Authenticated sender: charly@mitchelplumbing.com) by smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 738D25D80A5; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 10:34:58 -0600 (CST) From: "Charly Mitchel" To: References: <20412.1361735266@mitchelplumbing.com> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 08:34:53 -0800 Subject: Re: [Fot] Oil Pumps Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I found this. http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/OilPump.htm In addition I also clean up the casting flaws. Charly Mitchel ----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley To: charly@mitchelplumbing.com Cc: fot ; Steve Yott Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 8:23 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Oil Pumps Charly, There is this 150 pund pump from our English friend at TR Special Tuning: http://www.triumphspecialtuning.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=44 &product_id=189 Kinda a steep price. Chuck On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Charly wrote: BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; } Does anyone know of the modification's for a TR6 oil pump? Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 On Sun 24/02/13 7:43 AM , "Steve Yott" tr4@wi.rr.com sent: TR3 & 4 drivers! I have three modified oil pumps available from the most recent batch. If interested please contact me off list. Thanks much Steve Yott 262-997-0701 _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com [3] Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html [4] Archive: http://www.team.net/archive [5] Forums: http://www.team.net/forums [6] Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ [7] Links: ------ [3] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fot-ra cing .com [4] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.n et%2 Fdonate.html [5] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.n et%2 Farchive [6] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.n et%2 Fforums [7] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team .net %2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Ffot%2Fcharly%40mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2639/6105 - Release Date: 02/15/13 Internal Virus Database is out of date. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 25 13:13:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3580740522 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 13:13:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s5.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s5.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651E6403FD for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 13:12:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU168-W79 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s5.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 25 Feb 2013 12:05:59 -0800 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:05:59 -0500 References: <20412.1361735266@mitchelplumbing.com>, , <70355E83F9FA4D05BE2CD38E2FFA7D00@Charly> FILETIME=[87B9BCE0:01CE1393] Subject: [Fot] More Oil Pumps Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Speaking of oil pumps. Anybody have a 1500 Spitfire oil pump in their parts pile they want to sell? Mine attempted to process some non-fluid components after the big bang at the Mitty last year. Springs coming, better put something together I guess :) Thanks, Marty _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 25 13:56:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80574053F for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 13:56:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f52.google.com (mail-oa0-f52.google.com [209.85.219.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86AA14040F for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 09:30:40 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-oa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id k14so3075312oag.39 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 08:23:42 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=KJ0f9EGT1nKrczXE+5YK13HHNoICnRsJDiVQ4X141Ck=; b=j9rxzD0p9igkffv7A+X6bcMXJ54Lcc/LwQjhLKC67G84stfD75LxiBUtkNLpS9RHzy SsUlbsHTA9HflhUMFn1OVG2xqHau6igZHMweVi7e1Rb9usv/CQbMd315B3G+XeJ7qvQ2 H/C491dRh7Y4A/DO6fGoJyGx5SJVd0gLknHtIe35Q04QmW4MHxztuvuJMOMh89u1Yf5G HlSHSIF2wpdn7G7BzLCJMUUapB1kmrmcM2IZ/T6DULpkmLOlgfNbj7Lf5R2fxMM7vkpK mtZRHzyLYkff3ua3soLo+ST6GCKsArXX9a6wGl0eM+r52ZMfvlBhAhcf3IGpjRU7jxVa CzwQ== m7mr8070295obc.96.1361809422777; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 08:23:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.78.105 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 08:23:42 -0800 (PST) References: <20412.1361735266@mitchelplumbing.com> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 08:23:42 -0800 From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" To: charly@mitchelplumbing.com Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Oil Pumps Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Charly, There is this 150 pund pump from our English friend at TR Special Tuning: http://www.triumphspecialtuning.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=44&product_id=189 Kinda a steep price. Chuck On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Charly wrote: > BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; } > Does anyone know of the modification's for a TR6 oil pump? > > Charly Mitchel > > TR6 #44 > On Sun 24/02/13 7:43 AM , "Steve Yott" tr4@wi.rr.com sent: > TR3 & 4 drivers! > I have three modified oil pumps available from the most recent batch. > If > interested please contact me off list. > Thanks much > Steve Yott > 262-997-0701 > _______________________________________________ > http://www.fot-racing.com [3] > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html [4] > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive [5] > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums [6] > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ [7] > > > Links: > ------ > [3] > > http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fot-racing > .com > [4] > > http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 > Fdonate.html > [5] > > http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 > Farchive > [6] > > http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 > Fforums > [7] > > http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net > %2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Ffot%2Fcharly%40mitchelplumbing.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 25 13:57:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B2A40540 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 13:57:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from sitemail.siteprotect.com (sitemail.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.155]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 435094052F for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 17:32:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by app05.sm.onr.chicago.hostway (Postfix) with ESMTP id 589681020224; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 18:25:55 -0600 (CST) To: , "'fot'" , "Steve Yott" Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 18:25:55 -0600 From: Charly Subject: Re: [Fot] Oil Pumps Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for the reply, What I've done to mine is clean up the casting. There is some casting flaws left on all the pumps I've ever purchased, and I just go in and enlarge the passage a little to help make the oil flow a little more. I've been think about cutting down the end float on the pump rotor a little, but haven't tried it yet. Just wondering if someone else was working on these as well. Charly Mitchel TR6#44 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 25 14:05:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B20340517 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 14:05:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D40040067 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 14:00:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.202]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 3BCF31C000186 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:53:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mtb002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtb002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.197]) by mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id F0836E000085 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:53:43 -0500 (EST) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:53:43 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1361825624; bh=YA3tMHYqiZCv00uRmyyszYY6G8BH5BmTKyaz0fWH+Zw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=J/HwAMA9RJ8njA8C1ZWSAvoSHm3qmW/b+4vHI+9ePxlHbwcW4iRlX8D3KF0o75wpU /yohgio4JonLolmEabkKaCLQPcBY0lE+BAV/8+ffHxNK3xQXVJsFKhdHBZF0JSDbEL sYx4sHvBCO+gxqDQZzyQVXtDuntnYHQr4N2h7xkc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33ca512bcf5742c6 Subject: [Fot] Some more California Air... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici... My TRIUMPH WORLD magazine arrived in the mail over the week end and includes the second installment of the two part Kas Kastner interview, and in particular lots of stuff about the 250K car. It's great. Two other 'how to' articles involve how to rehang doors after a frame off restoration to get them to fit as good (or better) than TRIUMPH did (includes 25+ how to pictures), and also an article about adding power brakes to a Spitfire or GT6. But my favorite was an article about a guy who built a TRIUMPH Standard sedan into a race car. To me that's sort of like making a Checker taxi cab into a race car, but the author says it's seen 125 mph on the track. Perhaps more impressive was his TRIUMPH Standard car hauler. That was very slick, impressive, and brought back memories to me of the 18 years or so I towed to race events in eight states with a 'vintage' tow vehicle (1950 Chevrolet One Ton Panel truck). Doesn't hold a candle to Hardy towing a race car across the country with an XKE, but it was impressive (and often exciting) all the same. Great articles Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 25 14:37:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF1440531 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 14:37:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp450.redcondor.net (smtp450.redcondor.net [208.80.204.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71960403E6 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 14:37:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from cgp.netins.net ([167.142.228.73]) by smtp450.redcondor.net ({4ad064a1-3618-4418-b4ee-963987bff397}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20130225213036702; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 21:30:36 +0000 Received: from [208.126.78.151] (account riverside@southslope.net HELO rileyPC) by cgpf1.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.13) with ESMTPA id 490039507; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:30:25 -0600 From: To: , References: Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:30:10 -0600 Subject: Re: [Fot] Some more California Air... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The cool tow vehicle comments reminded me of my first regional at Road America (1972?). There were two other TR3's there and one had been flat towed behind a 289 Cobra. art de armond -----Original Message----- From: BillDentin@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 2:53 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Some more California Air... Amici... My TRIUMPH WORLD magazine arrived in the mail over the week end and includes the second installment of the two part Kas Kastner interview, and in particular lots of stuff about the 250K car. It's great. Two other 'how to' articles involve how to rehang doors after a frame off restoration to get them to fit as good (or better) than TRIUMPH did (includes 25+ how to pictures), and also an article about adding power brakes to a Spitfire or GT6. But my favorite was an article about a guy who built a TRIUMPH Standard sedan into a race car. To me that's sort of like making a Checker taxi cab into a race car, but the author says it's seen 125 mph on the track. Perhaps more impressive was his TRIUMPH Standard car hauler. That was very slick, impressive, and brought back memories to me of the 18 years or so I towed to race events in eight states with a 'vintage' tow vehicle (1950 Chevrolet One Ton Panel truck). Doesn't hold a candle to Hardy towing a race car across the country with an XKE, but it was impressive (and often exciting) all the same. Great articles Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside@southslope.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2639/6121 - Release Date: 02/21/13 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 25 14:48:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF9840517 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 14:48:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f175.google.com (mail-ie0-f175.google.com [209.85.223.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BDCE403E6 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 14:45:46 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f175.google.com with SMTP id c12so3712216ieb.34 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 13:38:48 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=6d/4EXpTJT8ZRUe+YF1WiIndXceaFvg7ZxQQfiL+AhE=; b=Zz+o3AU7QywOFDUY5uXuzARmZXlUIc88dEbQZm4iZ0p0/NxckfEUEBsn8cKli0btU7 y724caPjcqa7IbP2M1FcHiOA6odOJqIXC8OZrhvoGXfcrZwAbE06w0REX0mITEa9ZtG9 8hxq3oxum94tMrA9oJeQtGuJUb/fADh2lrq+8LwBZIz6un6cwhoKQewjSv2uCmKzKafz s3dYgQ1wEy6PMbt7PSdEEr6rUqVpI9+Ujll6QzV5+e/zx/zc3HrDoUO6kXvx/eSpcwoP doLBRSVB4pNEPgPKkEq837b63z09mTIII4cvC1Bg/uXUWhUNTNbXMfCLjc+gLJVUKg1i eNtg== ep9mr4272677igc.87.1361828328108; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 13:38:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.136.35 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 13:38:08 -0800 (PST) From: Don Marshall Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 16:38:08 -0500 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Triumph Ghetto at VIR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The Triumph Ghetto is pleased to announce that they will award the Annual Martha McDougal Trophy, as part of the 2013 VDCA Wild Hare Run, at Virginia International Raceway. The dates for this year's event are April 12th through the 14th. Mark your calendar now and join your fellow Triumph racers at this fantastic event. The Wild Hare features generous amounts of track time, including a free enduro, on one of the most challenging and historic tracks in the country. Topping off the weekend will be the presentation of the coveted "Martha" trophy to the Triumph racer that displays a high level of performance on track, active support of the Triumph marque, camaraderie in the paddock and general good-guy/gal-ness. In addition to the standard fun on and off the track, the Ghetto will once again provide their world-famous cookout on Friday evening for all Triumph folks and friends. Mark your calendars and watch for posting of the entry form, and on-line entry details, at the link below. We look forward to seeing you there. http://www.vintagedrive.com/Schedule.htm Dean Tetterton, Don Marshall and Leo Oddi _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 25 16:20:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A1FD40525 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 16:20:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A1140412 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 16:20:05 -0700 (MST) a=F7LWL4Wnv9p2p4efJzjc/w==:17 a=9XOHBX1n8dsA:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=sU9WSOJIBPIA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=MxGE3AYxAAAA:8 a=p_3VnqCNAAAA:8 a=6DenbU7HAAAA:8 a=X9DlZvRxbIRfadjZrlYA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=3OSZf96EaFMA:10 a=T3aF3NU0zZcA:10 a=W4oarAnCkt8A:10 a=F7LWL4Wnv9p2p4efJzjc/w==:117 Received: from [173.88.251.65] ([173.88.251.65:50156] helo=UserTHINK) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 18/18-11869-200FB215; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 23:13:06 +0000 From: "Jerry Van Vlack" To: "Charly Mitchel" , References: <20412.1361735266@mitchelplumbing.com> <70355E83F9FA4D05BE2CD38E2FFA7D00@Charly> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 18:13:07 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Oil Pumps Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've found a big improvement in OP on the Tractor engines doing the same thing as Bob Danielson says he did to the TR6 pump. A lot is wasted by those score marks. JVV -----Original Message----- From: Charly Mitchel Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 11:34 AM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Oil Pumps I found this. http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/OilPump.htm In addition I also clean up the casting flaws. Charly Mitchel ----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley To: charly@mitchelplumbing.com Cc: fot ; Steve Yott Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 8:23 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Oil Pumps Charly, There is this 150 pund pump from our English friend at TR Special Tuning: http://www.triumphspecialtuning.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=44 &product_id=189 Kinda a steep price. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 25 18:53:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5544051C for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 18:53:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D8240433 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 18:53:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r1Q1kTbo012200 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 20:46:29 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 20:46:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Racing Slicks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, This pertains to current SCCA Production racers... I know this is sort of sounding like I'm beating a dead horse, but I have it on good authority that most of the supply of "centilever" slicks is going away or gone or priced fairly high... Can anyone either comment on what sort of tire strategy they're taking and / or if they can cite any SCCA documentation regarding SCCA's stand on this situation? My earlier questions were based on this tire (un)availability. I have to get ready to buy my tires for 2013 and I have no idea what to do at this stage except break down and switch to 10 inch rims. I know this is currently illegal in Prod, but if there's no tires available - then what? regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 25 22:02:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76BE4043A for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 22:02:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A5E40323 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 22:02:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.73]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8877B1C00009F for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 23:54:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dre003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dre003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.227.73]) by mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 2CFFDE000082 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 23:54:47 -0500 (EST) References: <5D86E5937C12481F860C20909443E3FB@rileyPC> To: fot@autox.team.net From: malaboge@aol.com Received: from 76.102.23.82 by webmail-d084.sysops.aol.com (205.188.181.39) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 25 Feb 2013 23:54:46 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 23:54:47 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1361854487; bh=cnQUu0qYf30MPYCthi+YTLQGbi2SVWDUGTmTt/W8ui8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ujBG/YgQ6cpDQ3oWcr4XMFvVxLjPLznyD81mUKMiu3fYvayZ1d8CMroX+Yvn3XXqO Y4/4VZq/PpFlex5b2vNI6c8dyNDpoeEYmVHXKBHNlzxHtzuog+X5KaJhAmOFclZcGe q18Xy1bJ8hfogP4wn4oEy5UNz1ca8FsBQ4Z/uiVk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2949512c401717e1 Subject: Re: [Fot] Some more California Air... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Back in the day, my tow car was a '65 Shelby GT350...enuf power to tow and just another old car at the time...oh that 20/20 hindsight...where was it when I needed it. Nick in Nor Cal -----Original Message----- From: riverside To: BillDentin ; fot Sent: Mon, Feb 25, 2013 1:30 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Some more California Air... The cool tow vehicle comments reminded me of my first regional at Road America (1972?). There were two other TR3's there and one had been flat towed behind a 289 Cobra. art de armond -----Original Message----- From: BillDentin@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 2:53 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Some more California Air... Amici... My TRIUMPH WORLD magazine arrived in the mail over the week end and includes the second installment of the two part Kas Kastner interview, and in particular lots of stuff about the 250K car. It's great. Two other 'how to' articles involve how to rehang doors after a frame off restoration to get them to fit as good (or better) than TRIUMPH did (includes 25+ how to pictures), and also an article about adding power brakes to a Spitfire or GT6. But my favorite was an article about a guy who built a TRIUMPH Standard sedan into a race car. To me that's sort of like making a Checker taxi cab into a race car, but the author says it's seen 125 mph on the track. Perhaps more impressive was his TRIUMPH Standard car hauler. That was very slick, impressive, and brought back memories to me of the 18 years or so I towed to race events in eight states with a 'vintage' tow vehicle (1950 Chevrolet One Ton Panel truck). Doesn't hold a candle to Hardy towing a race car across the country with an XKE, but it was impressive (and often exciting) all the same. Great articles Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside@southslope.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2639/6121 - Release Date: 02/21/13 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/malaboge@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 25 22:10:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9707C4051E for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 22:10:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89721403A0 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 22:09:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1BD0E1C00010D for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 00:02:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dre003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dre003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.227.73]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C5D44E00008B; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 00:02:35 -0500 (EST) References: <5D86E5937C12481F860C20909443E3FB@rileyPC> <8CFE1F488C00FFF-BAC-7B909@webmail-d084.sysops.aol.com> To: malaboge@aol.com, fot@autox.team.net From: malaboge@aol.com Received: from 76.102.23.82 by webmail-d084.sysops.aol.com (205.188.181.39) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 26 Feb 2013 00:02:35 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 00:02:35 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1361854956; bh=nH7EyyUL9PL1VvizXkxPBdyiMr8BAe8bAQtrGvTvj1g=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Y7btUu6Av/+H1GLmB/FCyotAB8NsvJHhl6a+ftEppbMFyFExhmUwi6De7AvTW2bo0 +hGVjuJ2qcQ0VrQU/OzlKe7YC8jqtx1tUAIHjQdPLx18dnOi3pMb/ip0DnCJZB2nnd iUhFocNW6BXfHk/NmwIUfUTj45dpTyFfTwaCOvbM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b512c41eb7f48 Subject: Re: [Fot] Some more California Air... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net oh and it was a TR3 as well... -----Original Message----- From: malaboge To: fot Sent: Mon, Feb 25, 2013 8:56 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Some more California Air... Back in the day, my tow car was a '65 Shelby GT350...enuf power to tow and just another old car at the time...oh that 20/20 hindsight...where was it when I needed it. Nick in Nor Cal -----Original Message----- From: riverside To: BillDentin ; fot Sent: Mon, Feb 25, 2013 1:30 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Some more California Air... The cool tow vehicle comments reminded me of my first regional at Road America (1972?). There were two other TR3's there and one had been flat towed behind a 289 Cobra. art de armond -----Original Message----- From: BillDentin@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 2:53 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Some more California Air... Amici... My TRIUMPH WORLD magazine arrived in the mail over the week end and includes the second installment of the two part Kas Kastner interview, and in particular lots of stuff about the 250K car. It's great. Two other 'how to' articles involve how to rehang doors after a frame off restoration to get them to fit as good (or better) than TRIUMPH did (includes 25+ how to pictures), and also an article about adding power brakes to a Spitfire or GT6. But my favorite was an article about a guy who built a TRIUMPH Standard sedan into a race car. To me that's sort of like making a Checker taxi cab into a race car, but the author says it's seen 125 mph on the track. Perhaps more impressive was his TRIUMPH Standard car hauler. That was very slick, impressive, and brought back memories to me of the 18 years or so I towed to race events in eight states with a 'vintage' tow vehicle (1950 Chevrolet One Ton Panel truck). Doesn't hold a candle to Hardy towing a race car across the country with an XKE, but it was impressive (and often exciting) all the same. Great articles Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside@southslope.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2639/6121 - Release Date: 02/21/13 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/malaboge@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/malaboge@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 25 22:40:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8116C40538 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 22:40:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E635A403A0 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 22:40:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.138]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id ABD6C1C000049 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 00:33:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msc002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msc002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.197]) by mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 55867E000082; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 00:33:07 -0500 (EST) References: <5D86E5937C12481F860C20909443E3FB@rileyPC> <8CFE1F488C00FFF-BAC-7B909@webmail-d084.sysops.aol.com> <8CFE1F5A023FD5D-BAC-7B963@webmail-d084.sysops.aol.com> To: malaboge@aol.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 66.75.115.101 by webmail-m127.sysops.aol.com (149.174.9.16) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 26 Feb 2013 00:33:07 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 00:33:07 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1361856787; bh=w/7mLG/+6RLBRyTtyabVUKc1o2M3/Gkj15UEcRF3bmg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MWcD9YFvFSAEU7EcQ1nyIxuNJF2PUbIvbbJ8RYPGTJ+lc9P2ZXq5TQOLXVWRBgGN3 SCYTwDjgPoJL6jj3y+CXw3NBm/m07W1TjINtjsnJV5mpNXxVVWRyCvjxix590szVfY r0t/VI30T+FCLH2psgpDvTH6d9k65hS36ei5lKco= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338a512c49130c45 Subject: Re: [Fot] Some more California Air... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Richard Taylor tows a trailer with his TR4A #196. The trailer has a motorcyle and a set of racing tires. Unfortunately, he is unable to make the 'tow' this year to to the KCUP. We will miss him. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: malaboge To: malaboge ; fot Sent: Mon, Feb 25, 2013 11:03 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Some more California Air... oh and it was a TR3 as well... -----Original Message----- From: malaboge To: fot Sent: Mon, Feb 25, 2013 8:56 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Some more California Air... Back in the day, my tow car was a '65 Shelby GT350...enuf power to tow and just another old car at the time...oh that 20/20 hindsight...where was it when I needed it. Nick in Nor Cal -----Original Message----- From: riverside To: BillDentin ; fot Sent: Mon, Feb 25, 2013 1:30 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Some more California Air... The cool tow vehicle comments reminded me of my first regional at Road America (1972?). There were two other TR3's there and one had been flat towed behind a 289 Cobra. art de armond -----Original Message----- From: BillDentin@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 2:53 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Some more California Air... Amici... My TRIUMPH WORLD magazine arrived in the mail over the week end and includes the second installment of the two part Kas Kastner interview, and in particular lots of stuff about the 250K car. It's great. Two other 'how to' articles involve how to rehang doors after a frame off restoration to get them to fit as good (or better) than TRIUMPH did (includes 25+ how to pictures), and also an article about adding power brakes to a Spitfire or GT6. But my favorite was an article about a guy who built a TRIUMPH Standard sedan into a race car. To me that's sort of like making a Checker taxi cab into a race car, but the author says it's seen 125 mph on the track. Perhaps more impressive was his TRIUMPH Standard car hauler. That was very slick, impressive, and brought back memories to me of the 18 years or so I towed to race events in eight states with a 'vintage' tow vehicle (1950 Chevrolet One Ton Panel truck). Doesn't hold a candle to Hardy towing a race car across the country with an XKE, but it was impressive (and often exciting) all the same. Great articles Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside@southslope.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2639/6121 - Release Date: 02/21/13 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/malaboge@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/malaboge@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 26 12:24:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8334D4052E for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 12:24:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm8-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm8-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.191]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A52403F9 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:45:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.199] by nm8.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Feb 2013 22:38:20 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.56] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Feb 2013 22:38:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp109.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Feb 2013 22:38:20 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361831900; bh=j7s7FzoM6qKnZgKW+E2D5almILa7yY9jc8SxZ9tYVfs=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=CHewNQsha0L7+lrQHUDjS0qA+FYHpmn9nfm+fjVJLeyKQ4WVBBOF3t1cXRANa1T3sy3b0rGD8jYHrAZ6wMO7xYLuNen6DSYgEjzsNcpJWfJjHHgVzp+P9MRpNDgOO9rwXkWXmC9a8m6vnCXWob5/mPY98FNClnSdToJQWI2oPhs= Tx_Rb_OmQzt10oHtYULeM2oHHSzb4YrCm11m0TRFZLwRN6hFSb_pLJaUi9oG 2xb5WhPN4FSkwvDiUfkq.i2UdpCAAaL62ouHeINiBRvKv_cvUxzKLD5kOGx7 N0iKEztJYDDvfIVL9Hk2l7ouhhgwo4lvsIJvXvVdcEbHZbWWFFWfRioG9YVn sbw14c.QryluxSQqPBljR46X.pruzVM794OX83BWwVvRw5oOfFB4E8uoGokf veYsM_E9TpxDK6Qm_QUzTChKb9RLErwfS6Bzh2Ok7FEOMt9lm9GYHqkqajUh kFI872FpzDfIoJSilOREs3ni92wcts.hPxu5XkSjqoDpV9rqyejGjct4bqGC _s.JVJUODjFJVbdi23BkcmSnbs2vb9kL8kBTJUE6o9sji.m2bYcYH0otT.fK 23sSZvdwhUIAg21ZadJhrSX4t.23mEBWU9rT.3y1HWxuzhxwAvgVD8RrsV74 K6fP3Kgew_nt2TTVo57B9lWuOwixgoqAkKmY- Received: from WarrenAplinPC (wgaplin@74.173.124.244 with login) by smtp109.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Feb 2013 14:38:20 -0800 PST From: "Warren Aplin" To: , , References: <5D86E5937C12481F860C20909443E3FB@rileyPC> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 17:38:12 -0500 Thread-Index: AQHhXnAtz1Qk0L25o3VoWapYPDTqFQG3Vq2hmFbZJfA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Some more California Air... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net 1972, we are OLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I had a 1971 Triumph Spitfire, BRG over tan. I kept a race log in the glove box in the back of the owner's manual. That's what I thought those note spots were for, why didn't someone tell me!!!. They voided my warranty!!!!, Young and dumb!!! Still having fun!!!!!!!! Warren Aplin Jupiter, FL 561-748-8187 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of riverside@southslope.net Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:30 PM To: BillDentin@aol.com; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Some more California Air... The cool tow vehicle comments reminded me of my first regional at Road America (1972?). There were two other TR3's there and one had been flat towed behind a 289 Cobra. art de armond -----Original Message----- From: BillDentin@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 2:53 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Some more California Air... Amici... My TRIUMPH WORLD magazine arrived in the mail over the week end and includes the second installment of the two part Kas Kastner interview, and in particular lots of stuff about the 250K car. It's great. Two other 'how to' articles involve how to rehang doors after a frame off restoration to get them to fit as good (or better) than TRIUMPH did (includes 25+ how to pictures), and also an article about adding power brakes to a Spitfire or GT6. But my favorite was an article about a guy who built a TRIUMPH Standard sedan into a race car. To me that's sort of like making a Checker taxi cab into a race car, but the author says it's seen 125 mph on the track. Perhaps more impressive was his TRIUMPH Standard car hauler. That was very slick, impressive, and brought back memories to me of the 18 years or so I towed to race events in eight states with a 'vintage' tow vehicle (1950 Chevrolet One Ton Panel truck). Doesn't hold a candle to Hardy towing a race car across the country with an XKE, but it was impressive (and often exciting) all the same. Great articles Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside@southslope.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2639/6121 - Release Date: 02/21/13 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/wgaplin@bellsouth.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 26 14:06:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E2F4051F for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 14:06:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from e7.ny.us.ibm.com (e7.ny.us.ibm.com [32.97.182.137]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A96114043F for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 14:06:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from /spool/local by e7.ny.us.ibm.com with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! 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Violators will be prosecuted; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 15:59:36 -0500 Received: from d01relay01.pok.ibm.com (d01relay01.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.233]) by d01dlp02.pok.ibm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D21E6E805E for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 15:59:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from d01av03.pok.ibm.com (d01av03.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.217]) by d01relay01.pok.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id r1QKxZHZ255458 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 15:59:35 -0500 Received: from d01av03.pok.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d01av03.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id r1QKxYUl008620 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:59:34 -0300 Received: from d01ml099.pok.ibm.com (d01ml099.pok.ibm.com [9.63.8.34]) by d01av03.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVin) with ESMTP id r1QKxVwL008270 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:59:31 -0300 References: To: fot@autox.team.net From: George Harmuth Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 15:59:30 -0500 ZX853FP2HF5|February, 2013) at 02/26/2013 15:59:30 x-cbid: 13022620-5806-0000-0000-0000201ADBBE Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 75, Issue 30- slicks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net "This pertains to current SCCA Production racers... I know this is sort of sounding like I'm beating a dead horse, but I have it on good authority that most of the supply of "centilever" slicks is going away or gone or priced fairly high... Can anyone either comment on what sort of tire strategy they're taking and / or if they can cite any SCCA documentation regarding SCCA's stand on this situation? " Rob, I run Hoosier slicks and went to their website today. They still list bias ply 13" slicks but they have the "new (introduced Nov 2010" radial types on the discount rack, $100 each plus $15 an order for shipping. The original price was ~$225 each. I never ran the radials, always the bias ply so I don't know how well they work. Based on the short sale, I'd say not very well. I spoke to an engineer there when they came out and he gave me recommended set up changes / pressures if I did switch but I never pulled the trigger for the radials. I'm up in the air about what series to run this year, no Prod events last year only vintage but I might pick up a set and wrap them in plastic for future use. mike h G. Michael Harmuth _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 27 11:07:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1795440561 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:07:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (imr-mb01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.164]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E63540544 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:47:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9DD9A1C000110 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 12:40:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mtc003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtc003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.9]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 53F88E00008F for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 12:40:25 -0500 (EST) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 12:40:24 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1361986825; bh=XYpRZkvDHMmO6BHwQJ7oQrPsjudMlbHjztAKRoR9Wqw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rSzWt9huO8rgAbxkImAvMC8DOJzfEBfxPZbTzxeethPLEiu14r2KoFXI7djqE1OPv keA3oxf19aEOjw0XX1CmyaMvYhhLK30pU6M9fVH9UNrwBc5ky5sdfdBZLl8EkqJrMc YL2VKecctRyI5lE5j4r2vFNMNOEOlMLnip4hrTkQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b512e45090069 Subject: [Fot] Special strictly for the Tirumph History buffs... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici... I probably should have also mentioned the monthly one page Parting Shot article in my recent email about the April/May issue of Triumph World. It deals with the early history of the Triumph name our cars carry. While there is little historical documentation to suggest any formal engineering trail from bicycles to motorcycles to sports cars, there definitely was a formal path the Triumph name itself followed to get on our cars. But it is not crystal clear. It provides another item we can argue about. You know, like is your car really a TR3B. What we do know is that in about 1884 a German named Siegfried Bettmann came to England as a language translator. Based in Coventry, to make ends meet he began selling high end bicycles under the name Triumph. As a translator, the name had been chosen because it had numerous meanings in several languages. Early on he was not really building anything new, but rather buying bicycles manufactured by others, and using after market products to make them fancy. The Triumph Cycle Company, Ltd., was cashing in on the Victorian bicycle boom. Eventually with some funding from Dunlop, they did manufacture their own bikes, all of which were fancy, catering to the wealthy, and offering up grade options like 'soft tyres'. Then, at the turn of the twentieth century, motorized bicycles were developed and the Triumph company was quickly involved in building them, and also quite successful in competition events. Before and after WWII is were the history of the Triumph name gets foggy. There is more than one story told. We seem to know what happened, as well as why it happened, but not exactly how. There is evidence that Raleigh bought out the bicycle arm of the company before the war. At least a part of the motorcycle arm went to Jack Sangster in Ariel during that same period, but there is also evidence that Bettmann had a deal going with Coventry Cycles. The fact that all of these factories were then bombed out during WWII (along with most of their records) is where the confusion comes up. And thus it is not clear as to exactly what, why, and how the name Triumph evolved on British bicycles, motorcycles and then sports cars. But for sure, there are bicycles and motorcycles in our history, 40 and 16 years respectively, before there were any Triumph sports cars. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 27 12:27:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9264D40568 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 12:27:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com (imr-db02.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB961403E6 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 12:06:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.9]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id F02AF1C000132 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:59:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msc002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msc002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.197]) by mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 421E4E000081; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:59:28 -0500 (EST) References: <7a7f.68ea2d.3e5f9f07@aol.com> To: BillDentin@aol.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 98.155.162.141 by webmail-m088.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.203) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:59:28 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:59:28 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1361991568; bh=9spiapcHOSzInlCzs2jWI3l/oBhYwyDIOSSJsYTYZrQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xUyobTemDJj+6SFte3/91l5dJCPWZLY9Wwjq3LVHgxauvYqBojoj79mg29nRCKMr9 2pG50/bzWpceMc1Z0ALp45ZrqhA7uMxtLFT77g2Fh7gQKCO1wTtRn34dtGR6TP6m9r txk5D9QLDtiSDpWlPuyMqAD40FOXeGiUUQUi6ABM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2909512e579054cf Subject: Re: [Fot] Special strictly for the Tirumph History buffs...now the KCUP 2013 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I am not sure if I mentioned this before, but I have extended an invitation to Simon, the editor of TRIUMPH WORLD, to join us at the Kastner Cup. He is looking very closely at coming, in spite of a busy publishing schedule. I am beginning to see an incredible assemblage of very interesting people in attendance. (In addition to the FOT) There are some details in planning that necessarily will come from VSCDA, that is forthcoming. Most of that will be settled in March, and then there will be a deluge of new information. There are a lot of folks working on this and it is coming together. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: BillDentin To: fot Sent: Wed, Feb 27, 2013 12:01 pm Subject: [Fot] Special strictly for the Tirumph History buffs... Amici... I probably should have also mentioned the monthly one page Parting Shot article in my recent email about the April/May issue of Triumph World. It deals with the early history of the Triumph name our cars carry. While there is little historical documentation to suggest any formal engineering trail from bicycles to motorcycles to sports cars, there definitely was a formal path the Triumph name itself followed to get on our cars. But it is not crystal clear. It provides another item we can argue about. You know, like is your car really a TR3B. What we do know is that in about 1884 a German named Siegfried Bettmann came to England as a language translator. Based in Coventry, to make ends meet he began selling high end bicycles under the name Triumph. As a translator, the name had been chosen because it had numerous meanings in several languages. Early on he was not really building anything new, but rather buying bicycles manufactured by others, and using after market products to make them fancy. The Triumph Cycle Company, Ltd., was cashing in on the Victorian bicycle boom. Eventually with some funding from Dunlop, they did manufacture their own bikes, all of which were fancy, catering to the wealthy, and offering up grade options like 'soft tyres'. Then, at the turn of the twentieth century, motorized bicycles were developed and the Triumph company was quickly involved in building them, and also quite successful in competition events. Before and after WWII is were the history of the Triumph name gets foggy. There is more than one story told. We seem to know what happened, as well as why it happened, but not exactly how. There is evidence that Raleigh bought out the bicycle arm of the company before the war. At least a part of the motorcycle arm went to Jack Sangster in Ariel during that same period, but there is also evidence that Bettmann had a deal going with Coventry Cycles. The fact that all of these factories were then bombed out during WWII (along with most of their records) is where the confusion comes up. And thus it is not clear as to exactly what, why, and how the name Triumph evolved on British bicycles, motorcycles and then sports cars. But for sure, there are bicycles and motorcycles in our history, 40 and 16 years respectively, before there were any Triumph sports cars. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 27 12:59:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB05A40566 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 12:59:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (imr-mb02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A784051E for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:41:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 284BE38000237 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:32:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dlb005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dlb005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.180.209]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C83C5E000082; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:32:34 -0500 (EST) From: Catpusher@aol.com Full-name: Catpusher Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:32:34 -0500 (EST) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1361935955; bh=rYIGVGLhOvYNtP045AhRLaqvXyofvvamCtXIJIrnljY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NkkTNOhoaoEuzhecYofKmbAFtwa9zOdXhEoJSczlIHek81BHQCG4l6PAhpfX+oBwo SqofiVNaGvZTIg+pZVNo96zWnIN0+Q4fYhu838qYG1lkf1ElQdW+wZ+P68VPg4l8V0 9ac/1ShrfCD5bMiwbojAR/qBY8wldjP+p5AM48S4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b512d7e5253c4 Subject: [Fot] Subject: Some more California Air... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The E Type was the only other car that I owned, and the laden for travel, the TR3 was heavier; so it was very exciting at times also! I did help Nick in Nor Cal load his TR3 on his Trailer a time or two; the Shelby locker was not subtle in SF's hills! Hardy In a message dated 2/26/2013 10:56:52 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, fot-request@autox.team.net writes: Doesn't hold a candle to Hardy towing a race car across the country with an XKE, but it was impressive (and often exciting) all the same. Great articles Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 27 15:10:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C1E140563 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 15:10:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f49.google.com (mail-qa0-f49.google.com [209.85.216.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E70EA40554 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:48:24 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qa0-f49.google.com with SMTP id o13so855797qaj.8 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:41:16 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=n6spXqK8mzNYuCm8L4RYwxDc7S1dEyNRUOUuikX2tFY=; b=IK/qX0JD+CUmnByDa0hD0a0jRnz4XI6883NSmsyLNtd/92EUfoMrTzSXs+yJj/OSug 22VMzVY6uegE+IYeipbQ4Si9FxlOYTW0C7R/2Z9+rNFo08XDEwXlhqy+qp07rlMx+CHQ cyEVRTD+TJuP74tEfecO2KmIMVfwxUwA81MBJ531i0YI+EXt2YjqZ65sZfeibs+Jugca kdGWSUbtcuXuDYyyvuUb9/9ZbKIBZ4zB+jZ8u3sTcdFiIKf8vbL7UDi6KIcCDZaektY4 IglqtMxoVGAjpXCrE5XjPMbzduiQivzKiHh/7q8+L9ftQoYnkSnXvggXxref2I0zOGW3 iZnA== hg9mr10175834qab.44.1362001275865; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:41:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.106.229 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:40:55 -0800 (PST) From: "Enquiries Road & Track" Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 07:40:55 +1000 To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Oil Pumps Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net on the 6 cyl engines we have made some 1.5 length pumps. Any decent machinist can do this by cutting up a 2nd pump and adding it to the original. of course, you have to shorten/modify the pick-up, which is a good idea anyhow. They have no better pressure, but the extra volume sure helps with oil surge we seem to constantly get when racing. I can probably dig out some pics if anyone is keen Terry O'Beirne Australia _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 27 15:42:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF8E40655 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 15:42:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s6.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s6.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84604054C for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 15:18:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU151-DS18 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s6.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:11:42 -0800 From: "K LYNCH" To: "FOT" Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 15:11:40 -0700 Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 15:11:40 -0700 FILETIME=[6C05B120:01CE1537] Subject: [Fot] Clive Averill Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Our GT-6 mentor Clive was taken early this morning to his local hospital in a bad way, then air-lifted to another nearby. Would simply ask as a group, that you keep him & his family in your thoughts/prayers these coming days. He's in a rough way and could use some spiritual support.. Thank you ~ Kev Lynch #6 GT6 RMVR _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 28 11:24:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6CB40E40 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 11:24:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f173.google.com (mail-ie0-f173.google.com [209.85.223.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEDEC40414 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 15:34:21 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id 9so1275356iec.18 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:27:13 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority :x-mailer:x-mimeole:x-gm-message-state; bh=F4bhN0P4bY6qAejVUtYfIcYwaq67k59BhtgndIlEdFA=; b=R8vK60fgmIprQ5XMblx+suF9TxeSXtCx4q16lWQhJctrxu9lxzRjtNzfWxlWOuXN46 jkp1npMBqB0z06rXq05RUupk2ocgId6/wNUVfbey5ZtqV7bWypHdjM5Fp9/OgTHWm/vk mpNpxECzw/2DHFnHqOonlJAf/SeNq+26K2+/lFN4XCxQfPz0w8AzUrjrpXGFsDGau4AA 9fWITk5TbVhzsg99AfeJL+I4z3WsNrHfYmnNLS47IlSCY3B8iNU9ewLHLK/BELEATnRm dbgFnKc6LHx59gfJZ43h8cXrz9UVxmyJWf3/QaihBRSJ+1Sl30wggv5Ib6rZTEEMZnO0 7NBw== xm17mr1734927icb.35.1362004033159; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:27:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from sarako (67-0-11-137.albq.qwest.net. [67.0.11.137]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ua6sm5256419igb.0.2013.02.27.14.27.11 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:27:12 -0800 (PST) From: "michael kowalski" To: , References: <8d13d.b707233.3e5ed852@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 15:27:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [Fot] Subject: Some more California Air... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Many years ago, while towing back from an AutoX at Ft. Huachuca, AZ, somewhere near the NM/AZ border, along I-10, what I should I see but an E-type with six tiny cylinders, towing something in arears headed west. Could it have been the same rig as mentioned below? mike kowalski, FP spit, sorta ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:32 PM Subject: [Fot] Subject: Some more California Air... > The E Type was the only other car that I owned, and the laden for travel, > the TR3 was > heavier; so it was very exciting at times also! I did help Nick in Nor > Cal load his TR3 on his Trailer a time or two; the Shelby locker was not > subtle in SF's hills! > > Hardy > > > In a message dated 2/26/2013 10:56:52 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > fot-request@autox.team.net writes: > > Doesn't hold a candle to Hardy towing a race car across > the country with an XKE, but it was impressive (and often exciting) all > the > same. > > Great articles > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sm1ski@dslextreme.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 28 15:11:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C9740E40 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 15:11:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10678403F2 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 14:43:36 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=l4ltGeV0dbpo8sMGeVVc7g==:17 a=6ysi4HQJfT4A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=pcLIrrrKAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Pl_fIX4R7OYwGWSwLoIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=x8qb-3Rrk9YA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=ftFGBYpk1mUA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=wyX6V0r8hRUntWWafSEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=Vt2CHFrv_6m0pjtV:21 a=l4ltGeV0dbpo8sMGeVVc7g==:117 Received: from [166.137.123.24] ([166.137.123.24:56221] helo=[10.50.18.215]) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id F5/AA-04559-5DDCF215; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 21:36:23 +0000 References: <1362084341.24476.YahooMailNeo@web125003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: Bob Kramer Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 14:36:17 -0700 To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] Fwd: VR1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net VR1 on sale , whoopee! Bob Kramer Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Robert Blake > Date: February 28, 2013, 1:45:41 PM MST > To: Bob Kramar , 'William Collins' , Duncan Charlton , "jhovey1@sbcglobal.net" > Subject: VR1 > Reply-To: Robert Blake > > O'Reilly's has VR1 20-50 on sale for 3.99/qt starting today through Mar 31st. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 28 17:56:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B870C4055A for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:56:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6FC3403E8 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:38:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.197]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 06DD11C000091 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:31:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.75.28.131] (unknown [166.137.107.60]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 08EB5E000097 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:31:39 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Bock Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:31:29 -0500 To: FoTTriumph x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1362097905; bh=Q9pVzS5JFZ/PEfJPWk9I1G80P6TN++7Wk04QAxZWJkE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=pd5YxcL1GPWyaZImz/6BzLdeOOOLvUKKVATq0gC9BRxJjUKY5pgoHuYRIYSJXNa6j aQDJcQ9do90AhMbo4azfQ5FjzJZETxKnb7S/tpClUfke28qAw6RwOWGNifmRr6sv84 rAwyhgzaNrz0OsqmLpk/o5RofEO31YsqYYuqK1pI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c5512ff6ea3f2a Subject: [Fot] Spitfire project for sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici, I hate to say this and do this. I have to sell my project spitfire. Currently it is in pieces. Here is most of what I have. 72, 74 titles Body in good shape, no rust except one small hole in front of driver wheel arch Frame has some surface rust. 2 bonnets. Both have minor repairable rust. One has dents and other doesn't. 4 1500 engines. 3 from a triumph, 1 from a MG 3 transmissions. 1 single, 1 triple rail, 1 OD 2 Sets of doors in great shape, no rust, just one dent in one door. Have full window glass for three sets of doors. Gear reduction starter 4-2-1 exhaust, needs flange Multiple sets of stock carbs Lots of stock parts Hard top in great shape, all glass and trim. No windshield Stock suspension Have poly suspension rebuild kit 3 stock 3.89 diffs There are lots of other parts that I have forgotten about that are included. Currently the major amount of parts are in Delaware but the engines, transmissions, and some other stuff are in New Jersey. Any good reasonable offer will be accepted. Contact me off list if your interested _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive