From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 1 08:26:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8045B42805 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 08:26:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm25-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm25-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.191]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9EC7427BA for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 07:57:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.201] by nm25.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Mar 2013 14:50:09 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.111] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Mar 2013 14:50:09 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1016.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Mar 2013 14:50:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 30846 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Mar 2013 14:50:08 -0000 s=s1024; t=1362149408; bh=qEhNU5AIGw0ufNG6IBe0/D6GcKnLFS3p++D4JT9Lx2s=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0T6fC7BvHXlYGIY34cVpAnqoXwJyOWGIcGsgibBrrYbG/qVkx0od1USKiFV/zLMvrbsHyORj8m2T4+8T38RxiF7IAyFDS6x7p0HDalzAIi8CjmqSUxLE7V9NMO+is3HVOhtHLxoBpyRcz0laHZm31FijjXFTYTrU3HKFtC+fMko= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=izg4GzKVzINw0U8uwvrxa1R6Sn4pGo5Y0isIVUbdwWazf0AmRQW4yBjAgen9SwffwLCQdZg16NA2W4CNmKLXYb+4+pmQD4aQ5OAimSIdbGBkJdgM4WtcYe4HoRG7vnlKa1SdqLen0Tauubvvvd3bz3fBvPaXD9/nNuRiZtO3y3Y=; UG5LHF18WoLem_8J.ycZ.s2HcaGC2mur7hCiqqvH2aeD1ZtGr4eyATBwE1sB M1sKM7yaM71zhtAkp5m1JY0.DG36hcAqC1172uNYTw7K_Xi_wSJRHUC.Knfr 7WuVlK2H7Q9k9WIzS0abXUEbfptFREybAXJ9bQPpk5mnH3c6GDFvL9xkTnS5 MLzbLv.PwlVJJdRGSA85bKGfKFsi6lCtq66WMaztNbjrqUSC5m1oX1K_Y6XH xVqOn6BSRqtcoACtdK1MROEQyDb7eFDiZboeNnMlcRLsAn8_S7lKQtg5q48L 5MIRm7NYFF2dFSJWr9poB_72M8FOkeMV1YWfHalXRLEbhXRS8LtnbYHgJalG nkp7au_zkttLWrbc.JX1PMq8_D0sLRt_ChjnME..RGfh1BKmXMde8V.NFI1M qHNsuu2CHeasHMPR04meVvbavgmESCX9_Svx1aBdjbRpq3nfNtcMbSSrVxbV QrY1MIUsizkhCTHj5GnlaByVRBbE- Received: from [76.221.83.131] by web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 06:50:08 PST ZGlkIG5vdCBrbm93IGlmIHRoaXMgaGFkIGJlZW4gc2hhcmVkIG9uIHRoZSBjaGFubmVsLi4uLiBJIGNvcGllZCB0aGUgbWVzc2FnZSAKZnJvbSBvdXIgZ3JvdXAgd2l0aCBDVkFSCgoKV2UgIGhhdmUgZmluYWxseSBiZWVuIHJlbGVhc2VkIHRvIHN0YXJ0IG9yZ2FuaXppbmcgZm9yIHdoYXQgbG9va3MgbGlrZSB3aWxsICBiZSAKYSBodWdlIHZpbnRhZ2UgZXZlbnQuICBJZiB5b3UgYXJlIGFudGljaXBhdGluZyB0aGF0IHlvdSB3b3VsZCBsaWtlICB0byBiZSBhIHBhcnQgCm9mIHRoaXMgcmFjZSwgcGxlYXNlIGcBMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 06:50:08 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] SVRA and CVAR at Austin Texas COTA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net did not know if this had been shared on the channel.... I copied the message from our group with CVAR We have finally been released to start organizing for what looks like will be a huge vintage event. If you are anticipating that you would like to be a part of this race, please go to www.svra.com, click on Events, and under National Championship, click on "Pre-Registration", and follow the instructions. You will get to a page to fill out Pre-Registration information. This is not a formal registration or a commitment to register, but it is important for you to pre-register so that we can start figuring out the logistics for this race. The deadline for pre-registration is April 15, so, if you are interested, please get this done as soon as you can. Where there is a blank that says "SVRA License #", put in your CVAR license number. Also fill out the next two blanks where it asks for another license number and club affiliation. It is important that you indicate you are a CVAR member since SVRA and CVAR members will have top priority. Filling out your car information is also very important and will help with grouping of cars and the overall organization of the weekend. More information will be forthcoming when we have more details, but suffice it to say that this is a work in progress. About all that is firm right now is the date and the track, but at least we are moving ahead. Dan Ruehs President CVAR Inc. Bobby Whitehead _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 1 12:33:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D24EB42579 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 12:33:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm19-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE1C6427A4 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 09:39:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.198] by nm19.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Mar 2013 16:31:46 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.110] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Mar 2013 16:31:46 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Mar 2013 16:31:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 26647 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Mar 2013 16:31:46 -0000 s=s1024; t=1362155506; bh=6L7pjME0mJT9DsD0sQJsy6CQ8QBjMhyfqYpv5TCAeEU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nejQHMomxRltyLaZkf3wJYp4+TuykFs9z4Bvfs2PagCfko8QnFJj3uTNyUlbHxXE2N7ELkpizu0BFEiILyBGdj8SSLj2/BV9EqvvW2SrzPx6Jl/t4DqDdT4Jv0Mb/gFj9k4SUiobxPB4vqzGC3NfPltfoKTyQ0oMHLD/k8Ra/zg= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BNe3lGk1KqAedcxpdZYw13wv8o9jgwf/JK1jq0L1Ccm5L3WjKDcURlLK6hoh6YqZBP1uPwDbfbUsvLCBVlt1lM3IWiYE9l9vptR0HT5vbqGpMQlOkIOuyMO+9fURsjWgK0R8jQiO9DP/224P/GoftKcnQJy0Mbjgp0eCqTiz1Uk=; NJRjyyxV5I_9kMCucQ_G5g4hWS.q4NXc8Cs4CxrCwh6zV.iADFM2QduMhUZn W.XXQS9J0hVLCVAEW9fZV0WDoV6u046WfcxOum3KXWigXEK3gKBY0B95xU.T kzgXkAazqTzfe8HB8Tpf0zVkwHGY.lfQOxmU6PEbz8LyVN.FWv5Y_c_Dbgki 5G6SjNH33XDA93wjghbYRJ3rnqlK.jLlFyJpB0D0IcOC5sBi.LW9ASGmJIY7 rkUaOiDn.9CDK33oTkpug7zeTrUOaCL_kFribFwYbJq8OErjyN34bUUkiNu4 DSmrYYkk83dxmYdbfM2gAQy6J3AZQEqIc9sJBuIqJFDtQCMAunXAX2ExP07L S_.BYPaycwIsMREhkVoOIegKvJS.zMPInyEG5Rrsd6MhwipuWHl7XyVjYIjV Kon7qW0vOV2B6jggrFx5tz9CDXc.RJfR83xcaFir.wFsJ4RPs3SaG._FxV5M 5LQiCZN7vqghwDvn7B0VgVel8P2MYGNssfQA4JHAj4JzLM2CKKmC9pepdY1j dhc7eFHHBPFmGUT1Uz6cZgSiHH1.0BbtI19qQVWK3OU_O6DpmMnUaFPbXaWY Sc6MiugaaYXxFOsn_dkmrHoEs.3tMZr34A_8DlQyWCRVnCMB24RLMwrKmsov ml2smVr0odS4NYlBFtie0XORRJJoKu2o4QPX8smAPrIZrscnsCT5YSK3mw3D PSp3AFZvXXgLdJ9YL_vdXcA7u2QqkbYuA9vxwMflwt4KVhK8Zg8vrOU2mnPW mBoEMASJJxinuKOe0GvU1x1hoKYOJ8QK9Yl8TnGuGniHXsW.BLTq7gJp3W2k VRp.hA209rGgCjCem5z0.aCBVxOdlSKpycwFtPWzkb51S9vhqXVNRuESAD_r ceQ24upcdw3qMNoD8HVJ2EA-- Received: from [68.165.86.214] by web182206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 08:31:45 PST bG9va3MgbGlrZSBteSBmZWxsb3cgVGV4YXMgRnJpZW5kcyBvZiBUcml1bXBoIGdvdCBmcm9udCBwYWdlIGxpc3RpbmcgZm9yIDIwMTMgCk1pdHR5IQoKQm9iIEtyYW1lciBvbiB0aGUgbGVmdCBhbmQgR3JlZyBCbGFrZSBvbiB0aGUgcmlnaHQuLi5ub3QgdG9vIHNoYWJieSEKCkJvYmJ5IFdoaXRlaGVhZAoKCgotLS0tLSBGb3J3YXJkZWQgTWVzc2FnZSAtLS0tCkZyb206IEhpc3RvcmljIFNwb3J0c2NhciBSYWNpbmcgPEhpc3RvcmljX1Nwb3J0c2Nhcl9SYWNpbmdAbWFpbC52cmVzcC5jb20.ClRvOiBpZ29mYXMBMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 08:31:45 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: Bob Kramer , Bob Kramer , Greg & Alison Blake , Greg Blake , Greg Blake Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] Fw: HSR The Mitty. Registration open Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net looks like my fellow Texas Friends of Triumph got front page listing for 2013 Mitty! Bob Kramer on the left and Greg Blake on the right...not too shabby! Bobby Whitehead ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Historic Sportscar Racing To: igofaster@att.net Sent: Fri, March 1, 2013 9:47:43 AM Subject: HSR The Mitty. Registration open HSR The Mitty. Registration open THE MITTY APRIL 26-28. 2013 FEATURING CAN-AM AND MG REGISTER ON-LINE Do the Mitty like a rock star with one of our VIP tickets: * VIP Super Ticket for Friday, Saturday and Sunday * VIP parking pass * VIP parking area near the Classic Motorsports tent * Classic Motorsports lanyard and VIP ticket holder * Coupon redeemable at the Classic Motorsports booth for an official 2013 Mitty program * VIP viewing areas with shade and water available * Touring laps Friday and Sunday * Access to the Friday and Saturday night HSR driverbs dinner and party * Access to the Classic Motorsports appreciation party * VIP paddock tours led by the Classic Motorsports staff * An entire weekend of historic racing, racing celebrities, ride and drives, and fantastic cars! Tickets will be mailed by April 1, 2013. * Price: $119 each + $3.00 shipping & handling. * To purchase and view other ticket options, * follow the link at the top of the page or phone (678) 428-7651. * Road Atlanta has been home to the Classic Motorsports Mitty since its inception, and therebs no better place or time to enjoy a motorsports daydream. Join us April 26-28, 2013, for a long weekend of action both on and off the track. HSR handles the on-track action, while the Classic Motorsports staff organizes the infield festivities. David Hobbs, our grand marshal, has run nearly everything: Can-Am, Indy, Formula 1, Formula 5000, Trans-Am, NASCAR, IMSA GTP, IROC and so much more. In recent years, he has anchored America's Formula 1 TV coverage. The 2013 Mittybs featured marque will be MG. Bring your roadster: Webll have a contest to see if we can get more MGs or Miatas on track during Saturdaybs lunch break. Bring your earplugs, too: Webll have a reunion of the classic Can-Am race series. Youbll see all your favorite food groups at speed: Shelby, Porsche, Triumph, Jaguar, MG, Alfa Romeo, Corvette, BMW, Mini, Mazda, Nissan and so many more. Jack Higginbotham, president of PRS Guitars, will play a set with his band on Saturday night! PRS Guitars also will also present a custom guitar to the owner of the hardest-rocking car at the event. Thatbs not the only fanfare scheduled for the weekend. The Mittybs infield will feature car club corrals, free test drives, tech talks, magazine project cars, evening socials and so much more. Even if youbre not a competitor, you can get your car in on this world-famous racing circuit by participating in one of the weekendbs parade laps. ________________________________ Click to view this email in a browser If you no longer wish to receive these emails, please reply to this message with "Unsubscribe" in the subject line or simply click on the following link: Unsubscribe Click here to forward this email to a friend Historic Sportscar Racing. P.O. Box 8110 Clearwater, Florida 33758-8110 US Read the VerticalResponse marketing policy. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 1 13:02:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0FF42551 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 13:02:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mercury.fastbytes.com (mercury.fastbytes.com [216.183.230.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4194B424C5 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 12:44:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from TimDellVostro [216.183.226.236] by mercury.fastbytes.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.00) id A3631D650138; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 13:37:07 -0600 From: "Tim Murphy" To: "'Bob Kramer'" , References: <1362084341.24476.YahooMailNeo@web125003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <5F7E7DF4-D549-4E42-B854-8126AFACB294@austin.rr.com> Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 13:39:07 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac4V/4fU0afHH6meTHezonmxG2Hv9AAtKm+g Content-Language: en-us Organization: FastBytesWireless Inc. Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: VR1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for the tip! I just went down and picked up 2 cases of 12 from the local O'Reilly's. Saved $50. Tim -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Kramer Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 3:36 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Fwd: VR1 VR1 on sale , whoopee! Bob Kramer Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Robert Blake > Date: February 28, 2013, 1:45:41 PM MST > To: Bob Kramar , 'William Collins' , Duncan Charlton , "jhovey1@sbcglobal.net" > Subject: VR1 > Reply-To: Robert Blake > > O'Reilly's has VR1 20-50 on sale for 3.99/qt starting today through Mar 31st. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph@fastbytes.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 1 20:36:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A19B64283B for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 20:36:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com (outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com [64.136.47.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 83BE8426DF for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 20:19:55 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1362193956; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=qD/pcV064QZvFj1+AD7ZoG9bIEHhi1eVJnzBsylQJfQqxwEsh7FWJFWq1wdGx+YcR Z78VcTFlOYHAl1ObXerKZtFyM7o0YeGQ/ugvtC2kXrp9Z/PvQNsp8RgGv1bbBJivaf ljLmGMgJo9suOuMwzRCuGe1kiWKePrCGn938Karc= Received: from outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com (webmail04.dca.untd.com [10.171.12.144]) by smtpout01.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABJVC5TAAJ4Q9CJ for (sender ); Fri, 1 Mar 2013 19:12:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from [76.23.185.62] by webmail04.dca.untd.com with HTTP: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 03:11:05 GMT From: "Joe Boruch" Full-Name: "Joe Boruch" Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 03:11:05 GMT To: lang@isis.mit.edu Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Racing Slicks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have been using the Hoosier radial slick on my EP Honda. Others in EP have been using the radial slicks, but I have not tried them yet on my TR3. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Robert M. Lang" To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Racing Slicks Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 20:46:29 -0500 (EST) Hi, This pertains to current SCCA Production racers... I know this is sort of sounding like I'm beating a dead horse, but I have it on good authority that most of the supply of "centilever" slicks is going away or gone or priced fairly high... Can anyone either comment on what sort of tire strategy they're taking and / or if they can cite any SCCA documentation regarding SCCA's stand on this situation? My earlier questions were based on this tire (un)availability. I have to get ready to buy my tires for 2013 and I have no idea what to do at this stage except break down and switch to 10 inch rims. I know this is currently illegal in Prod, but if there's no tires available - then what? regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 2 08:16:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5791242885 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 08:16:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from tr.ccfot.com (wsip-98-174-80-205.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C3942848 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 07:55:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57CA7A4C092 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 09:48:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from tr.ccfot.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tr.ccfot.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5-P6GhCuNfrT for ; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 09:48:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from HENRYPRECISION (wsip-98-174-80-202.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.202]) (Authenticated sender: yellow04@tr4racer.com) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 96363A4C087 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 09:48:30 -0500 (EST) From: To: "FoT Triumph" References: <1362155505.20753.YahooMailRC@web182206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 09:48:31 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: HSR The Mitty. Registration open Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Nuttin' in my email box from those guys...I'm thinking I must be persona-non-grata with HSR. I leave a couple pounds of busted up cast iron and a couple of quarts of oil on their track, and I get snubbed. :-) Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobby Whitehead" Subject: [Fot] Fw: HSR The Mitty. Registration open > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > From: Historic Sportscar Racing > To: igofaster@att.net > Subject: HSR The Mitty. Registration open > HSR The Mitty. Registration open > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 2 12:36:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E256428E9 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 12:36:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm28.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm28.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.93]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF7B4040C for ; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 12:10:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.126] by nm28.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Mar 2013 19:02:59 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.109] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Mar 2013 19:02:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1014.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Mar 2013 19:02:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 75088 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Mar 2013 19:02:59 -0000 s=s1024; t=1362250979; bh=waImcAB6O3DXaTJi5K6qxTXAkTfZBx6KxZJDBQuOtZg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=P5GY3/wjzXcfMOBJAAXblK7bIvjTWgdToZAETHnuXch4mtsljVexxi7qz3B76GLBhQ2mcB+J2Aj7WRkmWAPTfZ6u1acN4H5Rf6Se+xX1InKZxFDR3aDzMnBHpDY7LbDStVIlr1gC1zoNdH6tlP+rV1l5CTAHKiS4eLaEtT8lqCg= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FRu8GRv/UyAKe/P/Ks1gNdqk3H/660rJ4P78LO6ub4fZh5N3nxT21RI4voexr+h6gA1p36B1JXi4quvB5zgN4dG1uMPuEfHu6J7XdY6/rV78Rkec8Qw1AZA3222ejMwHG/6wGWeWJAkzepm+rrOXqTz/JvlPPiM2h3cSqn3ALW4=; Ptwt3dDjePjrtLR24l3KKJsI5IjlgGgIynTVn.zzxjsgBr_GyljuC4Ws7Zck fRQ4XvKSGr4lpce7BKzx1OMsCahaCjpp6FdsUyDY4xRWVrMuu_Fk2DcZm141 HgrGGeICCIkQSpRmx7qvjRTWwU4SN6WDQoqfCnpHsLcBxGKTthmGkOgTca98 cI4AYsFjFqNSs5QNIk2sKS5GuzlFaMQbtdJzvUfMeMHn04_5XtKGQAcwVOhe zexjPPdlWjfbkU4wpsN8hEm1ZbT3f5477Q076wvYhVZwdGfvuxgcNS5.9LSj Y2fYDbwkQsW5DINz8bn6VZ0TXKd4DXz7eJX_4PfTPaZIBrpixIIIcyefhXCH EKZhfdk3sdcYCSJuj9LcEFo5OOqHGdolnHlcs19kjAcmrxCGWvXfSKn0F9z0 3D__Qh8mip0KRuTLOPet0.XH7Z6HX5kDwdgGepJUa Received: from [68.165.86.214] by web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 11:02:58 PST bG9va2luZyBmb3IgZm9yZ2VkIHBpc3RvbnMgZm9yIG15IEdULTYrIGJ1aWxkIDAyMCBvciAwMzAgb3Zlci4uLi4KCkJvYmJ5IFdoaXRlaGVhZAoBMAEBAQE- Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 11:02:58 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] forged pistons GT6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net looking for forged pistons for my GT-6+ build 020 or 030 over.... Bobby Whitehead _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 2 13:19:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2EC342921 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 13:19:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail176c2.megamailservers.com (mail176c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B613F426DF for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 21:14:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.240.220.144] (54.sub-174-228-71.myvzw.com [174.228.71.54]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail176c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r2247Kj4029312 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 1 Mar 2013 23:07:22 -0500 References: <20130301.221105.15919.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com> From: John Hasty Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 23:07:18 -0500 To: Joe Boruch a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=EZcxRO7EDu4orTb0iSIE0g==:17 a=fmDjJsrZAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=KrfZXDcStL4IgIEeKVIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=noQjv9YW-iYA:10 a=KTDso90Uc2QA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=YK30HMD7P3IA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=EZcxRO7EDu4orTb0iSIE0g==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Racing Slicks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I use the Speedsters on my TR3A the work fine Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2013, at 3:11 AM, "Joe Boruch" wrote: > I have been using the Hoosier radial slick on my EP Honda. Others in EP have > been using the radial slicks, but I have not tried them yet on my TR3. > Joe(B) > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: "Robert M. Lang" > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Racing Slicks > Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 20:46:29 -0500 (EST) > > Hi, > > This pertains to current SCCA Production racers... > > I know this is sort of sounding like I'm beating a dead horse, but I have > it on good authority that most of the supply of "centilever" slicks is > going away or gone or priced fairly high... Can anyone either comment on > what sort of tire strategy they're taking and / or if they can cite any > SCCA documentation regarding SCCA's stand on this situation? > > My earlier questions were based on this tire (un)availability. I have to > get ready to buy my tires for 2013 and I have no idea what to do at this > stage except break down and switch to 10 inch rims. I know this is > currently illegal in Prod, but if there's no tires available - then what? > > regards, > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net > > ____________________________________________________________ > Woman is 53 But Looks 25 > Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 2 18:56:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56938429BC for ; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 18:56:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.centene.com (mail.centene.com [204.145.114.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1832542939 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 18:36:28 -0700 (MST) d="scan'208";a="10896292" Received: from unknown (HELO OFLEXML03P.centene.com) ([10.4.85.52]) by OFLMAIL01P_LAN.centene.com with ESMTP; 02 Mar 2013 19:29:05 -0600 Received: from OFLEXMB04P.CENTENE.com ([fe80::d44f:50ee:124a:c0a0]) by OFLEXML03P.centene.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 19:29:05 -0600 From: John Wiley To: "yellow04@tr4racer.com" Thread-Topic: [Fot] Fw: HSR The Mitty. Registration open Thread-Index: AQHOFrK7GZqLM5BjhU+X36rb3MK3R5iSgmVCgACtMeo= Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 01:29:04 +0000 References: <1362155505.20753.YahooMailRC@web182206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: HSR The Mitty. Registration open Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Some people are so sensitive! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2013, at 10:09 AM, "yellow04@tr4racer.com" wrote: > Nuttin' in my email box from those guys...I'm thinking I must be > persona-non-grata with HSR. > > I leave a couple pounds of busted up cast iron and a couple of quarts of oil > on their track, and I get snubbed. :-) > > Henry > yellow04@tr4racer.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bobby Whitehead" > Subject: [Fot] Fw: HSR The Mitty. Registration open > > > >> ----- Forwarded Message ---- >> From: Historic Sportscar Racing >> To: igofaster@att.net >> Subject: HSR The Mitty. Registration open >> HSR The Mitty. Registration open > > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwiley@centene.com > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication contains information intended for the use of the individuals to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from other disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any disclosure, printing, copying, distribution or use of the contents is prohibited. If you have received this in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone or by returning it by return mail and then permanently delete the communication from your system. Thank you. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 3 09:18:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C140340453 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 09:18:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm26.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm26.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.91]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306034044E for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 08:59:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.201] by nm26.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Mar 2013 15:52:28 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.125] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Mar 2013 15:52:28 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1030.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Mar 2013 15:52:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 37844 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Mar 2013 15:52:28 -0000 s=s1024; t=1362325947; bh=37a84onf4f+ZxfidYD89hjYPUoKkiB8EqdCGY4c6v90=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=keRdPk8HtfRTX9HbeqFRfFX+qBIp6UtYhqSigIM2kTJECbX8gIW1YurhtDpoBOsU+sc8HTHXpFwvULdmfLuk0m050/uQdnTNj1zFXGVUIuO1kwrL3+S3qmYUYltm5BuptzsDIiSwP7ibf3BntqUeCjg3xIkIUuQ7ajFyRur4BaQ= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=e/xoOzkXiWuezcTa8CmIL+rxqOl9nozzDEarYPjF4UdliltnuBdXVxstGRP4X1XKBz0T87Nqe0iOMYEBiRtpaq8J8IdibJOKtcAKq2Ma1KnATxExVldndTA2nMc+Jq1HcsjL7Q2bRgkqpCQTDiTOIz0bDyeJgvxTuvf1V0+G2c8=; 8_j8INPTZY9XVD_i32VqBGVuXQb1WTPiiTyF_qxUu0Qq3cp43teQL8XQFvTF yGPU0qLlPR7b0ZUIgU.b7ndNuBssYbDOQ.FW.gyyqZF18mEX2gGbkfdEk4qA 5SphFdYhRuRSP8xD_5a4xok4awK2uUA5jM3n9BpzA4bhq2TYc768ZpZpoAQL GQuFOxCiDtuvCSzFyLg7t_FwWzftLFgCsbAP_GeJ6kTk4wtLkwsMPESLAM0n 50P3VucHLp2oxa9GxC0_HMLNPzVW8qSP38lQ83yUP2ewGTBg1H2jQMeIMeG_ Co.uwWB_obhu6xP_rB9_fML62AzXaFpOSQOpT84_6fNhDqZqlOfOuvZ9aZqe LbsYgzyPz7gjoqP8f3l8fK8siOH8n3IR_p2og5q4hgN01THQvZeHa2rRxmIR 99cT0UcVlcutTGSjAsVkzE..zsuJ0adX9sZ2. Received: from [76.221.83.131] by web182206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 03 Mar 2013 07:52:27 PST dGhpcyBpcyBhIHJlc3BvbnNlIHRvIEhlbnJ5IGJ1dCBJIGZlZWwgY29tcGVsbGVkIHRvIHNoYXJlIHRoZSByZXNwb25zZSBhbmQgcmVwbHkgCnRvIHRoZSBncm91cC4uLi4KCkhlbnJ5Li4uLmFmdGVyIHlvdXIgZ3JvdXAgJ3RocmVhdGVuZWQnIG1lIGluIEF0bGFudGEsLCx0aGF0IEkgd2FzICdvbmUgb2YgdXMnIEkgCmtuZXcgaW4gbXkgaGVhcnQgLCBhbHRob3VnaCBjcnVzaGVkIEkgd2FzIG5vdCBvbiB0cmFjaywgdGhhdCBJIHdvdWxkIHJlLWJ1aWxkLi4gCkkgbmV2ZXIgcmVhbGx5IGV4cGxvcmVkIHJlYWwBMAEBAQE- References: <1362250978.66611.YahooMailRC@web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4061BD87C37E44EA9CF70108EB3DDF81@TRIUMPH.local> Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 07:52:27 -0800 (PST) From: Bobby Whitehead To: yellow04@tr4racer.com Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] FoT for life Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net this is a response to Henry but I feel compelled to share the response and reply to the group.... Henry....after your group 'threatened' me in Atlanta,,,that I was 'one of us' I knew in my heart , although crushed I was not on track, that I would re-build.. I never really explored really far into what happened other than #2 piston just totally came apart into 1000 pieces..it was a stock piston and I had just run my best weekend ever at TWS in February so maybe it was dialed in to the brink of internal explosion... I have found a really good builder in Oklahoma that builds for Larry Young.. a forged crank is out of the question unless I do a one off but I am using forged pistons (2-4 weeks to produce) ((thanks STEVE and TED)) and I have procured forged rods... I really don't care if I'm mid-pack or last place as long as I can be with me extended family... I'll share a picture with you after this message but my fellow Texas FoT'ers bought the poster of Triumphs on the Track at the Mitty 2012... the signed it framed it and presented it to me last weekend at TWS.. Greg Blakes wife Allison clipped a picture of my GT6 off my facebook page and tagged it to the framed picture...like I was on track... it was kind of cute..the presentation shows all the cars going to the right... my pic was me going to the left... Greg and Bob Kramer presented the gift with the statement... "when you bought the GTA car we thought you "left" us (my car is going left in the Pic) ...cute huh? I cried a bit as it was very emotional... I was at the track this last weekend with the GTA car but the Group8 CVAR proposed is a real cluster bomb.. I ran friday only , one session, and had a small electrical fire, but my whole purpose was to spend the weekend with my Texas FoT family and crew and wrench.. which I did... we did pull a head and replace a head gasket saturday night on Bob Blakes TR4.. he got his first checked flag Sunday he's had in 18 months...so there was that. We had another TR4 come in with the nephew of the driver who drove the car at Daytona in 1966... Bob Kramer has his red TR4 and a blue TR4 his son drives that were both at Daytona the same year this new driver's Uncle's car was there.. I don't believe all three were on the track at the same time but all three were there at the event... pretty cool... Our tech inspector had brought a clapped out trailer with three TR6 engines that had been setting in remiss (outdoors) for 20 odd years... one had a gearbox.. $100 for everything... Kramer and I both kind of passed but noted the gearbox was probably worth salvaging... The new TR4 driver (nephew) at the driving school lost some bearings in the OD gearbox they were trying to run. His dad was wrenching the crap out of it when we mentioned the clapped out $100 Triumph bin that showed up near tech.. sure enough, they pulled the Tranny of the rusted iron, opened up the top box and dang... it looked pretty good... so.. dad did install the $100 find and his son did finish the weekend at speed...so there was THAT... you know,,, typical Triumph racing weekend.... the best of times... All the best Henry... I ain't going nowhere.... Bobby _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 3 10:17:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCBF940EE2 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 10:17:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2520C40433 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 09:59:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.195]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id D6B921C0000BC for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 11:52:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.142.18.82] (mobile-198-228-226-005.mycingular.net [198.228.226.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 56DB2E000093 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 11:52:19 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Bock Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 11:52:15 -0500 To: FoTTriumph x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1362329539; bh=wPx2c4R7k/JGg952m+af5so+pw84Z8h3IqEKGEstRwc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=S6N+QZEB6Mhton89nTn8NndnBebZTdtsHUiJoNxKlO3yjDNMz/oBH3alnR5wggjOt zKd8SwVN/1pltBfbkKoZA6ljIO+RaOBftGQXhIYsLTZcc8QLVbbcUVet3MD0iwDajv nCGHE4Kqy7PWNtRYqyaOB9SgsezpwOUDm67JzpM8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c351337fc3372b Subject: [Fot] Header flange Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici I have a header (4-2-1) that needs a flange. Is there someone out there that has one I can weld to the header? Or do I have to break out my mad metal skills and make one? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 3 10:49:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1611F4249F for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 10:49:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm27-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm27-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66BA540433 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 10:30:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.126] by nm27.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Mar 2013 17:23:01 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.47] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Mar 2013 17:23:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp104.vzn.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Mar 2013 17:23:01 -0000 MMAFDMaroIaezOpi0U2KZBzyNvCqLAKjgBRxanY_kpZEoHaGNxAz7lUzFtiE rFwAn.8hESs5VuRJG43WqY9ZJWq.lnGbjQ7hktOyPIYCLLVtB_J421CV9Mgi wZm6XzmiMMOV4wIiUy9zGiRmCnm7KPny7lXQQ2cewVk7PK996GnPQRB5VXp6 hkthgWHNHc5MoJlZk6Jpn84T1FZgcFutZ5SYtQDM7XAaIL8eFqBBi7.nhOUT EGzj1dBb9dORwTKsE8ccLuNeYGMmJupm1UqGA93DX9Fgh8WtSUJs4CWph_RN 3b7VLdc3I.PgYLEhXKIea.7H91WLWjCeC3hKUWqNV2QAYI3dg6vPkqyf4kxn jbPh_0THMgo4oShxh_Bnf6Xl5NQ8HgYESqpZPYcZFpwV3JfWAkhHNjBs8Ugq Zg3fuoL7BmUgl4Dow4xT4djSXfrA- Received: from [127.0.0.1] (tr6nut@71.163.243.209 with plain) by smtp104.vzn.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 03 Mar 2013 09:23:00 -0800 PST Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2013 12:23:00 -0500 From: Hugh Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 To: Christopher Bock References: Cc: FoTTriumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Header flange Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Christopher, If you are referring to a flange to attach the header to the exhaust system, Summit Racing has them. If you are referring to the flange that bolts to the engine, I don't have a clue where you would find one. Hugh Barber On 3/3/2013 11:52 AM, Christopher Bock wrote: > Amici > > I have a header (4-2-1) that needs a flange. Is there someone out there that > has one I can weld to the header? > > Or do I have to break out my mad metal skills and make one? > _ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 3 13:19:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD704044B for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 13:19:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm29-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm29-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.159]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FD84296B for ; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 16:42:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.53] by nm29.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Mar 2013 23:34:54 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.37] by tm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Mar 2013 23:34:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Mar 2013 23:34:54 -0000 s=s1024; t=1362267294; bh=B3+DYHvFx9m27Iz1bTqi+ULqF6u3CfnntIUJ9FyeRec=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Message-ID:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:MIME-Version:To:Cc:From:Subject:Date:Content-Type; b=qAp/GzOnpnF8GBIXNGLiOZ0U+X9Bfj8rj/oixgelAhpyEXISWkJzTMCKssvGT4SuowbOklWdaxvwcg9u7vmeC0LB1unBA2DF/MfnJlr1BO0/jE/nMTdIORso59K32izvl8WUx4vaubL8qCiUoBCN6M/g+4FBNKdjg2YX/xVcEJk= 1J2r6iaGhFxJ.H_EaQsB9bj5YetjS_eRSUgyhozqCAML2S5yDnS2B4zYXwXW L6h0vulJfVarq.W00LuA4yqB41nt3SCjEK547Nv_x902_vSxh3Dx9PJmfmJL wByLnwT21wpmFg_JM..FSipxvaD_iI58g6e2AriYx3PH6hWKpy9qW4DcoPRQ 3trKZDT_0MoNWOYbx1lQTrNoIXv0bYkGvxxewUEYIRzZtbXjRX_VDYHbXpTB pmqcV11rlCBnrODDLm_09WKXpEhHeIqz1ZyrOs9LLwfFfT4ObCqh7QgTw.3I KYqBtng7L4.SrVw.XfaSytOnfJYIxGnQFCx9YknRS9zr1DO99BYFWpv.EFdB Of0BFUiDRzbaYO9IYnPfS9_CNgnH6O9MWQ9Slr.TT2oKwtkkgnXQHcF5hotr K2I13Ikuz.h7ezn9JiMd1zSBxi0ITkXzby75Vv9nSqve_rfaUMPD5.QLkRiy 66.h.Pb5mGZoeAKCkw1VHCmKHxx9Jexqw4gjc0gCAA5EVU9Fn Received: from [192.168.1.69] (yellow-green@99.43.68.42 with login) by smtp105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 02 Mar 2013 15:34:54 -0800 PST To: Bobby Whitehead , Bob Kramer , Bob Kramer , Greg & Alison Blake , Greg Blake , Greg Blake From: Dennis DeLap Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 17:34:34 -0600 Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: HSR The Mitty. Registration open Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Could someone send me a copy of the 'front page' I must have sent mine to the trash. Thanks Dennis -----Original Message----- From: "Bobby Whitehead" Sent: b3/b1/b2013 1:26 PM To: "Bob Kramer" ; "Bob Kramer" ; "Greg & Alison Blake" ; "Greg Blake" ; "Greg Blake" Cc: "FoT Triumph" Subject: [Fot] Fw: HSR The Mitty. Registration open looks like my fellow Texas Friends of Triumph got front page listing for 2013 Mitty! Bob Kramer on the left and Greg Blake on the right...not too shabby! Bobby Whitehead ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Historic Sportscar Racing To: igofaster@att.net Sent: Fri, March 1, 2013 9:47:43 AM Subject: HSR The Mitty. Registration open HSR The Mitty. Registration open THE MITTY APRIL 26-28. 2013 FEATURING CAN-AM AND MG REGISTER ON-LINE Do the Mitty like a rock star with one of our VIP tickets: * VIP Super Ticket for Friday, Saturday and Sunday * VIP parking pass * VIP parking area near the Classic Motorsports tent * Classic Motorsports lanyard and VIP ticket holder * Coupon redeemable at the Classic Motorsports booth for an official 2013 Mitty program * VIP viewing areas with shade and water available * Touring laps Friday and Sunday * Access to the Friday and Saturday night HSR driverbs dinner and party * Access to the Classic Motorsports appreciation party * VIP paddock tours led by the Classic Motorsports staff * An entire weekend of historic racing, racing celebrities, ride and drives, and fantastic cars! Tickets will be mailed by April 1, 2013. * Price: $119 each + $3.00 shipping & handling. * To purchase and view other ticket options, * follow the link at the top of the page or phone (678) 428-7651. * Road Atlanta has been home to the Classic Motorsports Mitty since its inception, and therebs no better place or time to enjoy a motorsports daydream. Join us April 26-28, 2013, for a long weekend of action both on and off the track. HSR handles the on-track action, while the Classic Motorsports staff organizes the infield festivities. David Hobbs, our grand marshal, has run nearly everything: Can-Am, Indy, Formula 1, Formula 5000, Trans-Am, NASCAR, IMSA GTP, IROC and so much more. In recent years, he has anchored America's Formula 1 TV coverage. The 2013 Mittybs featured marque will be MG. Bring your roadster: Webll have a contest to see if we can get more MGs or Miatas on track during Saturdaybs lunch break. Bring your earplugs, too: Webll have a reunion of the classic Can-Am race series. Youbll see all your favorite food groups at speed: Shelby, Porsche, Triumph, Jaguar, MG, Alfa Romeo, Corvette, BMW, Mini, Mazda, Nissan and so many more. Jack Higginbotham, president of PRS Guitars, will play a set with his band on Saturday night! PRS Guitars also will also present a custom guitar to the owner of the hardest-rocking car at the event. Thatbs not the only fanfare scheduled for the weekend. The Mittybs infield will feature car club corrals, free test drives, tech talks, magazine project cars, evening socials and so much more. Even if youbre not a competitor, you can get your car in on this world-famous racing circuit by participating in one of the weekendbs parade laps. ________________________________ Click to view this email in a browser If you no longer wish to receive these emails, please reply to this message with "Unsubscribe" in the subject line or simply click on the following link: Unsubscribe Click here to forward this email to a friend Historic Sportscar Racing. P.O. Box 8110 Clearwater, Florida 33758-8110 US Read the VerticalResponse marketing policy. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 3 13:21:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46BD74283F for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 13:21:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f41.google.com (mail-qa0-f41.google.com [209.85.216.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96BF40430 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 09:04:00 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id bs12so685608qab.0 for ; Sun, 03 Mar 2013 07:56:33 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=FN5BG5lWXJJevU/te2xSUH2ETXcJmwMGmeAdd27fk/k=; b=KX6qeIWlyKq4hbt/DkekCroDZ3Wbm7A3K2c+XhVCUu3doLP/Tv3DV2mQYolADCMJcD +xtdeKgi8k5mrAhIYv9T7y7idVPlrwcAR7LkVjjibT+re1ax/VshYduRkdhp5QOj1TWG O70wck3yeLFGh7mtoV4B7mF17W/lav2yM0iq3MuCJRaf6Is6b0jKszZ+B4Jh7uMPkmwB XWSO426Bqd+7rLhVPrZpBBkW+nfFDVXzJbLVirD/bRIpYubrZAUdX1ufSiZe0Jqo1mUS gLJxbX3ajkIQ3+nq/3venkhezniJxtnIBMJxjywGQwPgte9N/p/iiio3oVWB9+keOReS M4uQ== be6mr6150118qcb.65.1362326193718; Sun, 03 Mar 2013 07:56:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.59.108 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 07:56:33 -0800 (PST) References: <1362155505.20753.YahooMailRC@web182206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <6949E57D-4A1E-4D8D-9443-8F680280B07F@CENTENE.COM> Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 10:56:33 -0500 From: Robert Deanes To: John Wiley Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: HSR The Mitty. Registration open Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Darn Henry you are so accomadating to their event, leaving them oil and such, HSR.. is that hot soaked race track....have to admit it was alot of fun...I also haven't seen much on the event..guess I will have to look it up and see what these Texas guys are doing, the group I saw at VIR sure had it together , they darn near had their rigs in a circle like a western and the biggest tent that I have ever seen at the track yet ! a bunch of really nice racers. On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 8:29 PM, John Wiley wrote: > Some people are so sensitive! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 2, 2013, at 10:09 AM, "yellow04@tr4racer.com" < > yellow04@tr4racer.com> > wrote: > > > Nuttin' in my email box from those guys...I'm thinking I must be > > persona-non-grata with HSR. > > > > I leave a couple pounds of busted up cast iron and a couple of quarts of > oil > > on their track, and I get snubbed. :-) > > > > Henry > > yellow04@tr4racer.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bobby Whitehead" > > Subject: [Fot] Fw: HSR The Mitty. Registration open > > > > > > > >> ----- Forwarded Message ---- > >> From: Historic Sportscar Racing > >> To: igofaster@att.net > >> Subject: HSR The Mitty. Registration open > >> HSR The Mitty. Registration open > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwiley@centene.com > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication contains information > intended for the use of the individuals to whom it is addressed > and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or > exempt from other disclosure under applicable law. If you are > not the intended recipient, you are notified that any disclosure, > printing, copying, distribution or use of the contents is prohibited. > If you have received this in error, please notify the sender > immediately by telephone or by returning it by return mail and then > permanently delete the communication from your system. Thank you. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 3 15:05:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D924006F for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 15:05:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s38.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s38.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.113]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2FA40419 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 14:41:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU168-W34 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s38.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 3 Mar 2013 13:34:13 -0800 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 16:34:12 -0500 FILETIME=[D983A320:01CE1856] Subject: [Fot] TR3/4 crank plugs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Anybody know off the top of their head what the size is of the 4 plugs on a TR3/4 crank? Thanks, _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 3 18:51:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1D940520 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 18:51:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc4-s8.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc4-s8.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.210]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDE44042E for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 18:32:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from BAY150-W57 ([65.54.190.201]) by bay0-omc4-s8.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 3 Mar 2013 17:25:26 -0800 From: Randy and Valerie DeRuiter To: , Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 19:25:25 -0600 References: FILETIME=[267FFD20:01CE1877] Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3/4 crank plugs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Marty- 1/4 NPT - I bought flush mount plugs from McMaster, pn 4534K42 and they worked well for me. Randy > From: trmarty@hotmail.com > Anybody know off the top of their head what the size is of the 4 plugs on a > TR3/4 crank? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 3 23:25:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F75B40EE2 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 23:25:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from icp-osb-irony-out7.external.iinet.net.au (icp-osb-irony-out7.external.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.224]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B0940516 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 22:57:32 -0700 (MST) d="scan'208,217";a="101864822" Received: from unknown (HELO PetersTowerPC) ([114.198.72.102]) by icp-osb-irony-out7.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 04 Mar 2013 13:50:00 +0800 From: "Peter Vucinic" To: Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 16:50:16 +1100 Thread-Index: Ac4YnCVFNYV/3xDwS2a+3tVjPgQhgQ== Content-Language: en-au Subject: [Fot] 5.5 Race Clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Dear Listers! Wondering if any of you are CURRENTLY or HAVE run 2.5l TR6/GT6 with a 5.5" Clutch pack. E.g. Quartermaster or Tilton etc.? Looking at fitting one of these to my TR6 project race car, so seeking some combined wisdom of the group! Good or Bad experiences! All accepted gracefully! Many thanks Kind Regards Peter Vucinic TR-4 _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 4 11:02:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E394285C for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:02:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s30.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s30.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.105]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A2D42858 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:01:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU168-W86 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s30.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 4 Mar 2013 09:54:22 -0800 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:54:21 -0500 References: <82DCFD44-7CB7-43A6-A91D-D64525E8FB7D@charter.net> , FILETIME=[4D807910:01CE1901] Subject: [Fot] Vintage Racing Cars in Kodachrome Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Get prepared to be glued to your computer for the next hour. Awesome old shots. Even some Kastner cars. Marty http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=21791.0 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 4 11:46:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF974286A for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:46:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc4-s29.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s29.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.168]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C1E4043E for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:46:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU173-W10 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s29.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 4 Mar 2013 10:38:40 -0800 From: Henry Morrison To: , fot Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:38:39 -0700 References: <82DCFD44-7CB7-43A6-A91D-D64525E8FB7D@charter.net>, , , , FILETIME=[7D6DDAE0:01CE1907] Subject: Re: [Fot] Vintage Racing Cars in Kodachrome Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net How 'bout Mark Donahue and His Elva Courier in there.....................Cheers Henry Morrison > From: trmarty@hotmail.com > To: fot@autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:54:21 -0500 > Subject: [Fot] Vintage Racing Cars in Kodachrome > > Get prepared to be glued to your computer for the next hour. Awesome old > shots. Even some Kastner cars. > > Marty > > > > > > > > http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=21791.0 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dos_gusanos@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 4 12:22:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B430042857 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:22:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dfn.com (mail.dfn.com [74.116.128.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD79B40E5B for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:22:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] [199.83.117.102] by dfn.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-11.5) id 1486006d4b7e2285; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:15:06 -0700 Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 12:15:16 -0700 From: Michael Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 To: Henry Morrison References: <82DCFD44-7CB7-43A6-A91D-D64525E8FB7D@charter.net>, , , , Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Vintage Racing Cars in Kodachrome Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 3/4/2013 11:38 AM, Henry Morrison wrote: > How 'bout Mark Donahue and His Elva Courier in > there.....................Cheers Henry Morrison > Not to mention a shot of James Dean with the 550 Spyder in which he was killed. Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 4 12:38:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F8F1425C1 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:38:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8AB40E5B for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:38:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7Rdp1l0010FhH24ACXWxfw; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 19:30:57 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.81] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7XWv1l00b4L5TyG8UXWw5p; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 19:30:57 +0000 From: Bud R To: marty sukey Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:30:55 -0700 References: <82DCFD44-7CB7-43A6-A91D-D64525E8FB7D@charter.net> , s=q20121106; t=1362425457; bh=Kg4kIrIw3JPm9B+yHhxvw0KrBWH5wmaG4w9iJx9RDE4=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=qdxQ6fwsVkjr/1zQFIYAU5C4nACGalVow9QHRz0Mj3rt21u7pn+qhelOakN6zbLP7 HC7qRi5RRGRb3+co/P7tlY8BmuRyj+XU1vRzLmI8+3gBjNe9Cs1pki258OHTix8woO 1ryGsXDGZRwepFJWjJQpoOmf4zT43pSBNQ3pEZWdVJYD8ffmQGxFEzVaA7Lqh/0S1c BTMiYDihkVYPraOyJW7fXK1KPyXoImkNyq7ZLwv3WmAJC/6obK/GdH0JHp5IqZc8vy VW7jA+qeK8Y1jQPZH5eArxPRcn2YteuI09RV+TWxyqq1jWSG+uuSoK1BjEMOMtg4ya XrxgZgxReIZFQ== Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Vintage Racing Cars in Kodachrome Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Great pics Marty thanks for sharing. I love the ice racer and the Tasty Tasty t-shirts. Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Mar 4, 2013, at 10:54 AM, marty sukey wrote: > Get prepared to be glued to your computer for the next hour. > Awesome old > shots. Even some Kastner cars. > > Marty > > > > > > > > http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=21791.0 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 4 13:22:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1264286A for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 13:22:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5C940430 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 19:19:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.36.253]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MJ400K0064G9Z90@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 03 Mar 2013 20:12:18 -0600 (CST) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Randy and Valerie DeRuiter" , , References: Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2013 21:12:12 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3/4 crank plugs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Marty, if you need a tap, let me know, I probably have several. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy and Valerie DeRuiter" To: ; Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3/4 crank plugs > Marty- > > 1/4 NPT - I bought flush mount plugs from McMaster, pn 4534K42 and they > worked well for me. > > Randy > >> From: trmarty@hotmail.com >> Anybody know off the top of their head what the size is of the 4 plugs on >> a >> TR3/4 crank? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 5 13:10:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC9FC42A56 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 13:10:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qe0-f45.google.com (mail-qe0-f45.google.com [209.85.128.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 892A54054D for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 14:36:19 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qe0-f45.google.com with SMTP id b4so4194057qen.4 for ; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 13:28:46 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=MhNANYm1NVMtr+j8XRS6xehk24hwQc5I3QRWT13xbzg=; b=w6FG3/ZSA/cuxprqdLYPcgF5Xa/K+E0KTJn1wCV7rLo5eEEfcv2HY7/Zzk+vz/ylEy HgIylsPFzw3BkHi6zfZgYPZknfay+3Xbkv5c7x2xTLr5HIKy8S2ftCJEPO8bClO9V3Ix Vq8tIHv+NyNutVR7S9OWvt2CfBzsBFUl4feZMG2vXY4E4aiS0ma6U2JMLoKyXSPB7sYc wFoVjUIXu5iZf8t1+h171gO1qTOP710pqLuI26CgN6jYx11CNq0FjCAPA1Gl8KA9hEOW CAVoaX9p3w3pdbJmEwt78CUG/01q48L5JMAI5N2W9NjYCNmjhzlJI9EkxGp3p6+Dk1QE otlA== h13mr36015212qac.23.1362432526478; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 13:28:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.59.108 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 13:28:46 -0800 (PST) References: <82DCFD44-7CB7-43A6-A91D-D64525E8FB7D@charter.net> <8FC88F0D-8A02-42AE-8E9C-380DF2A09208@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 16:28:46 -0500 From: Robert Deanes To: Bud R Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Vintage Racing Cars in Kodachrome Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net there are some good pictures here...good history On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Bud R wrote: > Great pics Marty thanks for sharing. > > I love the ice racer and the Tasty Tasty t-shirts. > > > Bud Rolofson > > Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) > 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle > 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 4, 2013, at 10:54 AM, marty sukey wrote: > > > Get prepared to be glued to your computer for the next hour. > > Awesome old > > shots. Even some Kastner cars. > > > > Marty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=21791.0 > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 5 13:10:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A3442A84 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 13:10:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm25.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm25.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.184]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8025640423 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 19:00:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.152] by nm25.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Mar 2013 01:53:25 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.200] by tm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Mar 2013 01:53:25 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1009.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Mar 2013 01:53:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 55806 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Mar 2013 01:46:44 -0000 s=s1024; t=1362448004; bh=AHQJsyytrUo5Wd0hiO0sxwV88DPRhV3wlCOKC3xD/aA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vMWNbw6YwyWa00zkFJj3+HIfkqYWsy/pbB9fjoqxs+2490jJ5rMIk407xqy6luEpV/51oueH/mIj/sC3MggN05oCSU7+dx9nOhuplsnuJWyQrhi0NB7aVnqaLzar+6U3Abgk6uMkfe9PgohcRFcCT116ID0E2SDoOrmFr5DTcjo= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3tqyBwsJcH57QGN/ffnzc3OiqAk3VETsXY6Nlos5POOjKmSfKlM1xDZpMdf57vZbAOu5Fdqc80sL6EgppQJq4vvHgwuIRnsHLbChQszebY4yRZnMIAiw7iO48tt9643l7lH+bBY9ri1c3JGB6NeD+Kxy8zNvxT3/hx5BSzT1aCo=; xmoXkjaJ2E2CYEVEf7_KkilYxZ5WbvhJBuDDdm9qE6J2w2j4q0tNcbfjIYzr C7GkhLBUpbkvDprS4QiiZ2Q7bCaxYGKaA6ZYQzDQeUUYLABNGU.nXsqZ66LC 03avVnzeVBhrdoX1CSValemqrxpQejsB0_YGPtV_1L8O4vgck1yMmVxO8xiX Y_Tjek20ealZtSbPYeTwFPCsT4ZxDaTQldgtSnsPPoq.q5xJRZZQDSCb8pAx 5z3XXaPKw6GXDUYCztzHc4pHKnWKFYILxq4iFWeUC5eIGa8XfZV1b4ByIwBH tjtnYTsz9ZQHb9JSAWBH.hSrSj7_RR_wB4O9yVs1IVCmJcObO8FIxtbYXRo6 1EthMJyzv743cWLN0eZFrI42ugueFQi5Ckwf.X2FdPVoZKt2eerJXFe_2DZ6 hZvf55ij0MBNbotIgKSRnq.sDeK5hdgkrqCTsKsO7Ps3J1KrV15oVDaolHEY 7OgABOC6d9Mnz3r6ndQh2m2dRO_oEBQCGJ44xY8BDjNKw2.VufJfvcBVJoid fvBV0UVdzeqtvIab3wPoemwc97q0- Received: from [66.192.188.2] by web160906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 17:46:44 PST Y29tbW9uIHRyYWRlIG5hbWUgSG9sbG93IEhleCBwbHVnLsKgIFBhcmtlciBudW1iZXIgMS80IEhIUC1TCgogCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogRnJvbTogQmlsbCBUb2JpbiA8d2lsbGlhbS50b2JpbjMxQHZlcml6b24ubmV0PgpUbzogUmFuZHkgYW5kIFZhbGVyaWUgRGVSdWl0ZXIgPGRlcnVpdGVydmlsbGVAaG90bWFpbC5jb20.OyB0cm1hcnR5QGhvdG1haWwuY29tOyBmb3RAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQgClNlbnQ6IFN1bmRheSwgTWFyY2ggMywgMjAxMyA2OjEyIFBNClN1YmplY3QBMAEBAQE- References: Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 17:46:44 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Mehl To: Bill Tobin , Randy and Valerie DeRuiter , "trmarty@hotmail.com" , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3/4 crank plugs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net common trade name Hollow Hex plug. Parker number 1/4 HHP-S ________________________________ From: Bill Tobin To: Randy and Valerie DeRuiter ; trmarty@hotmail.com; fot@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2013 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3/4 crank plugs Marty, if you need a tap, let me know, I probably have several. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy and Valerie DeRuiter" To: ; Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3/4 crank plugs > Marty- > > 1/4 NPT - I bought flush mount plugs from McMaster, pn 4534K42 and they > worked well for me. > > Randy > >> From: trmarty@hotmail.com >> Anybody know off the top of their head what the size is of the 4 plugs on a >> TR3/4 crank? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mike.mehl@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 5 15:09:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C1C42AB1 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 15:09:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E378242A58 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 15:06:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.1]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 107841C000204 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 16:59:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.7.103.193] (mobile-198-228-225-254.mycingular.net [198.228.225.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 40A2EE0000B6 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 16:59:17 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Bock Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 16:59:11 -0500 To: FoTTriumph x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1362520757; bh=DIkc5Z4NWfGS7qsu+QseeCTK3PjWJ9BolgbAVqoE1m8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=RmOpTitfnM3L6XjPeJn4haqtWpWR/1D5pVI8eV40oFyqAYdih57vamPQwTA/EuSFd j2FDm8stdcWEO08QJ900AKoTKwe8VDlT9zXwHHI6gDeE037WEfts6wwVAabGGaebZZ 8KlL8MK1+BuO08ebm2FMWIDdBo1dgfcMhr4zuwvI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290151366ab303a9 Subject: [Fot] 3.89 spit diff Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici, I have a 3.89 spitfire diff up for sale. $50 plus shipping. Came out of a 74 spit 1500 was quiet and smooth when removed. Diff is in Bridgeville, DE 19933. However it can be in New Jersey 08360 or along the way with enough time. Contact me off list if interested. I have pictures. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 5 16:25:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEFD642AAF for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 16:25:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f173.google.com (mail-ea0-f173.google.com [209.85.215.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC97A42A62 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 16:18:34 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ea0-f173.google.com with SMTP id i1so1356946eaa.32 for ; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:10:55 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=DCN4vO2IeDmSPixePEpAPSBbbzo8g7G7nRNMt4VJ8yg=; b=UMnmas2IH8lm7GJxfc6Tuvkg+fj0LPglsh3kYcMqY6To45SEb655csFHoW7+F/Hi4S bi/TAN+SDEaYlrOp0DPs4I7UUVJnf+bBA5nhkfRNu3qoxoAXcXwEKSYmjRslTN/BveaC i20zf4OuoLYkHGHBmLgtl5qtp5xaYRMkWRWyyYOlttHMtXtwcPUO0K+BX4ztvLjgKV1k am2z+U1rizdp/4WMmOyIilvjhU0vKSVTitE0yBg2/Ruq1ZtUoicLiebPF8ExD/hCQdmX teYP+x6yYFGo7vEvdleTahKchF7pLAH142zwAyEJqlf+CH4B4KiWipPyQhpK4CsF8z50 h88A== t8mr75368793eeo.35.1362525055460; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:10:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home ([2.171.65.6]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q42sm39605409eem.14.2013.03.05.15.10.53 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:10:54 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <1362448004.46180.YahooMailNeo@web160906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 00:10:55 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac4Z3IerG2YDRHEXRrant1ZuLJHzCAAGhASQ Content-Language: de Subject: [Fot] Triumph Competition Promotion Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Have fun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RStast23_DE Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 6 12:20:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1464140536 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 12:20:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s10.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s10.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.85]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08279403F4 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 12:19:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU151-DS10 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s10.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 6 Mar 2013 08:46:16 -0800 From: "K LYNCH" To: "FOT" Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 09:46:15 -0700 Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 09:46:15 -0700 FILETIME=[1EAFF4A0:01CE1A8A] Subject: [Fot] Sad news Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Some of you already know, but we lost Clive Averill last night @ around 9:30 MST. I'm sure the 'Chief Steward' upstairs felt he & his poor family had suffered quite enough. Clive was one of the original members of RMVR & campaigned his Silver #33 GT6 for many years, being driven presently by Ashley his daughter. He was a Navy Vet, devoted Husband, Father, & Grandfather who had a penchant for Civil War history & took part in re-enactments from time to time. We will miss his quiet demeanor & knowledge of the marque here in the Colorado/Rocky Mountain West. God speed my friend ~ Kev Lynch #6 GT6 RMVR _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 6 12:30:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D1D40EAE for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 12:30:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1950C403C8 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 12:26:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([10.128.143.54]) by hrndva-qmta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20130305233517354.UHCQ1654@hrndva-qmta04.mail.rr.com> for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 23:35:17 +0000 a=cII0OxXpZpTrMvjuLP8Tjg==:17 a=wLYNZHckZ8oA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=WugnzxroBPYA:10 a=sohdISEiXiJm6X2qVIcA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=1shWdcxtVZ9X3fb2xN8A:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=9KYYywHdLNnHUVSL:21 a=cII0OxXpZpTrMvjuLP8Tjg==:117 Received: from [98.30.168.127] ([98.30.168.127:3010] helo=Bucktailus) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id E7/CA-20480-DB086315; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 23:33:17 +0000 From: "Robert Johns" To: "marty sukey" Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 18:33:19 -0500 Cc: FOT team Subject: [Fot] Fw: Vintage racing photos Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Subject: Vintage racing photos Very interesting bunch of old photos. I am sure you all recognize Carroll Shelby in the various photos, including Le Mans. I wonder how many recognize Colin Chapman in the photo of the Lotus-Ford at Indianapolis. A couple good shots of the old Ring. That shot of the GP car with its rear wheels so high off the surface is at the Nurburg Ring. Bob Johns _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 6 13:08:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09A540EC2 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 13:08:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qe0-f49.google.com (mail-qe0-f49.google.com [209.85.128.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B13440E42 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 13:07:55 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qe0-f49.google.com with SMTP id 1so5567117qec.22 for ; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 12:07:21 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=YbFo+4wtahAu5NyA1YNCNjNTZXtg/59z5hRleyCRkIs=; b=HVviSGlicHBcR9rbgk8RE9g15IjoP9IzEJAET/eb3D9rzekcBMhJNGtv6JU9Q0nOt5 Wm2RVwlnEmLKedKd26DCTUmT4zgh4ykcITreT3XUC2OsYFzB+X2k+V2HuajvjJVoLooX eafrbBRIrx2CC2tGvVteunT8CCDmthzdMOUDb5GqC02Xj+FsENQQPyJzbkZBhbCgv/F8 tarujpIFK0fCkyTWxGW3KHkTOn5zrdSf3TOfhjXcay5KQf4t145L2zPMCOQBT8BKvUdc hRQ7uP7JRce5hkdv9WuisFf6xxqaip5OFxAm8po9Q5s+qs/vN9nWzzepi+eGizGo5hCN nNPQ== d16mr44763752qey.26.1362575315921; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 05:08:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.59.108 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 05:08:35 -0800 (PST) References: <1362448004.46180.YahooMailNeo@web160906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <003201ce19f6$b247c420$16d74c60$@com> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 08:08:35 -0500 From: Robert Deanes To: MadMarx Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph Competition Promotion Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Nice footage..the track looks fun too On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:10 PM, MadMarx wrote: > Have fun: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RStast23_DE > > > Cheers > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 6 13:09:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899EE42263 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 13:09:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C8640E63 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 13:08:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8357A0FFB for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 13:09:45 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 13:09:45 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15.2 To: "F.O.T." Subject: [Fot] Network outage Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Had a network outage last night. I took advantage of the downtime to do a bit of work on the server, got the forums [ link below ] working once again. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 6 13:16:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130C14248A for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 13:16:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mailrtr02.ntelos.net (mailrtr02.ntelos.net [216.12.0.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B341840E67 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 13:16:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from webmail.ntelos.net (webmail.lumos.net [209.145.64.96]) by mailrtr02.ntelos.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id r26KGCdj028634; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 20:16:12 GMT Received: from d-128-234-204.bootp.Virginia.EDU (d-128-234-204.bootp.Virginia.EDU [128.143.234.204]) by webmail.ntelos.net with HTTP (SquirrelMail authenticated user rjl6n@cstone.net); Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:16:13 -0500 References: Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:16:13 -0500 From: "R. John Lye" To: "K LYNCH" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Sad news Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net RIP Clive - although I haven't been back to Colorado to visit with Clive in many years, I still treasure the times that I did get to spend with him. John On Wed, March 6, 2013 11:46 am, K LYNCH wrote: > Some of you already know, but we lost Clive Averill last night @ around > 9:30 > MST. I'm sure the 'Chief Steward' upstairs felt he & his poor family had > suffered quite enough. > Clive was one of the original members of RMVR & campaigned his Silver #33 > GT6 > for many years, being driven presently by Ashley his daughter. > He was a Navy Vet, devoted Husband, Father, & Grandfather who had a > penchant > for Civil War history & took part in re-enactments from time to time. > We will miss his quiet demeanor & knowledge of the marque here in the > Colorado/Rocky Mountain West. God speed my friend ~ > > Kev Lynch > #6 GT6 > RMVR > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 6 13:27:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13BD64248F for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 13:27:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5858540E42 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 13:25:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.139]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B73871C00005A; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:24:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msb003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msb003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.137]) by mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 68C54E000093; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:24:47 -0500 (EST) References: To: klynch_6@msn.com Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d187.sysops.aol.com (205.188.103.66) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:24:46 -0500 From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:24:47 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1362601487; bh=KEIvypU6ZIDtsVMFJM89eHFC5qFa8KV4FRTbZzC1Pdo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=szopQIX15kqOyCWPeCzYceJ9XSj3LaLG031X5j/nbqQn1R9bivQSpyC5sYeFawJC1 mmLbnEd6xY1H4bw3MsBofQZvWkNIdwc+N1MCqFuT+tGw4m/tE2PXc+FF+pYplOo3ef Gn1Dn8QOrkx6WRXAII+YkSdfS6MJq1aGeODFOqBs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338b5137a60f6ecb Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Sad news Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Kevin, We never met, but talked on the phone in recent months, and he spoke proudly of Ashley and her taking over driving the GT6. We hope this legacy may continue. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com John On Wed, March 6, 2013 11:46 am, K LYNCH wrote: > Some of you already know, but we lost Clive Averill last night @ around > 9:30 > MST. I'm sure the 'Chief Steward' upstairs felt he & his poor family had > suffered quite enough. > Clive was one of the original members of RMVR & campaigned his Silver #33 > GT6 > for many years, being driven presently by Ashley his daughter. > He was a Navy Vet, devoted Husband, Father, & Grandfather who had a > penchant > for Civil War history & took part in re-enactments from time to time. > We will miss his quiet demeanor & knowledge of the marque here in the > Colorado/Rocky Mountain West. God speed my friend ~ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 6 13:36:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FCE24248B for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 13:36:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (fed1rmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D8940F5F for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 13:36:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from fed1rmimpo210 ([68.230.241.161]) by fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20130306203557.CICF30259.fed1rmfepo103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo210> for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:35:57 -0500 Received: from Vista ([68.110.89.224]) by fed1rmimpo210 with cox id 8Lbw1l00j4qRjhw01LbxcU; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:35:57 -0500 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=1ZbIKGUhtgsA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=AAvYLDLOAAAA:8 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=t-8tv4kt9M7dbT0xSmQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=MG4Rcr4xqJIA:10 a=MnK-OHSXTlEA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=s2loLT2QvaoA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=BX5teMqiA3LvBtkF:21 a=SiIqC6XtLF9UifzY:21 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: References: <8CFE8BFC784FB36-1B94-6101@webmail-d187.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 13:36:10 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac4aqPPzK0KVz5S1Qi63A+DHJi/ylAAAC5mw Subject: Re: [Fot] Sad news Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I bought one of Clive's CV-Joint conversions and between the two of us, strengthened it so that it would handle the 240 HP of my Honda engine. He was a pleasure to work with and a real gentleman. RIP Clive! Joe C. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Alexander Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 1:25 PM To: klynch_6@msn.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Sad news Thanks Kevin, We never met, but talked on the phone in recent months, and he spoke proudly of Ashley and her taking over driving the GT6. We hope this legacy may continue. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com John On Wed, March 6, 2013 11:46 am, K LYNCH wrote: > Some of you already know, but we lost Clive Averill last night @ around > 9:30 > MST. I'm sure the 'Chief Steward' upstairs felt he & his poor family had > suffered quite enough. > Clive was one of the original members of RMVR & campaigned his Silver #33 > GT6 > for many years, being driven presently by Ashley his daughter. > He was a Navy Vet, devoted Husband, Father, & Grandfather who had a > penchant > for Civil War history & took part in re-enactments from time to time. > We will miss his quiet demeanor & knowledge of the marque here in the > Colorado/Rocky Mountain West. God speed my friend ~ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 6 15:11:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B0B424E5 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:11:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com (outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com [64.136.47.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C18834249E for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:11:22 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1362607848; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=Wl3fexJsDK+Vwu6n2gYxy63Z9Ua09yYHTd29qcApq1VVNndfgApfm2szUZJHv4gHg v4iZCszTIgJEXpwiJIG8/POnQYJPGpQTsN0UnEUXYHBcagGsUDsoJSMq0UEIITm7Rn Rjo1oMUp6DO17ceoQeH/TtcYk4aL/kPTcSNqH/LM= Received: from outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com (webmail10.dca.untd.com [10.171.12.150]) by smtpout03.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABJVPDEFACR7EEA for (sender ); Tue, 5 Mar 2013 16:23:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from [76.23.185.62] by webmail10.dca.untd.com with HTTP: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 00:22:39 GMT From: "Joe Boruch" Full-Name: "Joe Boruch" Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 00:22:39 GMT To: pvucinic@netspace.net.au e1f518ddf5dca9d1dd9861ddf84821293535587cc8b92c4935c17599ad4d7c99b9bc28cd5c09a918385cd8d86168e1491118c8594c954d4d591c0815c8f84d2de8c18c Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 5.5 Race Clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I use a double disc 7.25 Quartermaster in my TR3 with great results. Tried using a single disc unit. It lasted a season but found cracks in the disc upon removal. Went back to using double disc. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Peter Vucinic" To: Subject: [Fot] 5.5 Race Clutch Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 16:50:16 +1100 Dear Listers! Wondering if any of you are CURRENTLY or HAVE run 2.5l TR6/GT6 with a 5.5" Clutch pack. E.g. Quartermaster or Tilton etc.? Looking at fitting one of these to my TR6 project race car, so seeking some combined wisdom of the group! Good or Bad experiences! All accepted gracefully! Many thanks Kind Regards Peter Vucinic TR-4 _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net ____________________________________________________________ 30-second trick for a flat belly This daily 30-second trick BOOSTS your body's #1 fat-burning hormone http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/51368c85353f5c850b74st03duc _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 7 13:12:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0BFB4055A for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 13:12:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail175c2.megamailservers.com (mail175c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBBF74259F for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 18:34:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.234.159.21] (207.sub-174-228-22.myvzw.com [174.228.22.207]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail175c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r271XZrS009224 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 6 Mar 2013 20:33:39 -0500 References: <20130305.192239.25239.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com> From: John Hasty Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 20:33:35 -0500 To: Joe Boruch a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=FqVklJ37qCt4hQnFHrPLgA==:17 a=fmDjJsrZAAAA:8 a=tgRDpXx1AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=vu_MJHSjrzdJhyinnNEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=YK30HMD7P3IA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=FqVklJ37qCt4hQnFHrPLgA==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] 5.5 Race Clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net SPEC stage 3 paddle works great in my TR3A Sent from my iPhone On Mar 6, 2013, at 12:22 AM, "Joe Boruch" wrote: > I use a double disc 7.25 Quartermaster in my TR3 with great results. Tried > using a single disc unit. It lasted a season but found cracks in the disc > upon removal. Went back to using double disc. Joe(B) > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: "Peter Vucinic" > To: > Subject: [Fot] 5.5 Race Clutch > Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 16:50:16 +1100 > > Dear Listers! > > > > Wondering if any of you are CURRENTLY or HAVE run 2.5l TR6/GT6 with a 5.5" > Clutch pack. E.g. Quartermaster or Tilton etc.? > > > > Looking at fitting one of these to my TR6 project race car, so seeking some > combined wisdom of the group! Good or Bad experiences! All accepted > gracefully! > > > > Many thanks > > > > > > Kind Regards > > Peter Vucinic > > TR-4 > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net > > ____________________________________________________________ > 30-second trick for a flat belly > This daily 30-second trick BOOSTS your body's #1 fat-burning hormone > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/51368c85353f5c850b74st03duc > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 7 22:51:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC9640398 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 22:51:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0DD40358 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 22:51:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.36.253]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MJB00FTQUX35500@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 23:51:04 -0600 (CST) From: "Bill Tobin" To: Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 00:51:00 -0500 Subject: [Fot] tattle tale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi All, are any of the guys using a Tattle Tale in your oiling system? A setup where the oil comes from the pump to a screen and then to the cooler, filter, etc. The Tattle Tale can be taken apart and the screen checked for debris from the engine, indicating a possible impending problem. I talked to Les Gonda, who runs an MGB GT V8, very quickly, I might add, and he swears by it. Thanks, Bill _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 8 05:24:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E70428B8 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 05:24:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc2-s3.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s3.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE0B428B2 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 05:23:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from BAY164-DS17 ([65.54.190.123]) by bay0-omc2-s3.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 8 Mar 2013 04:22:33 -0800 From: "Terry Stetler" To: References: <0CD898FFC7EF4B459A2BF219F6E929F7@hpd530> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 07:22:33 -0500 Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 07:22:33 -0500 FILETIME=[9C9733B0:01CE1BF7] Subject: Re: [Fot] tattle tale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We run one on Jeff's TR3. It's part of our daily track service routine to check it. It's an invaluable diagnostic tool and if checked on a schedule can be the difference between a minor refresh and a major failure. Terry Stetler _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 8 11:22:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7680440EA0 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 11:22:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384D840515 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 11:22:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 91Xk1l00417UAYkA16MhmQ; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 18:21:41 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([24.22.75.60]) by omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 96Mg1l00F1J37AG8Z6Mgt5; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 18:21:41 +0000 Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 10:21:40 -0800 From: Jim Norlin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <0CD898FFC7EF4B459A2BF219F6E929F7@hpd530> s=q20121106; t=1362766901; bh=a8GEdJH6e7nEBl4KJJXV/NQ9Dd4g571437lU8ARubE8=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=GDhF2tXf74NiWxsYe4Apjwo16IkDgA3wqGZcLfGdo9o9SFAhehh0+RmqfJq/sR3t7 h/wzdPmrNcmMapFDCLRyAmiA9vagqL22QkMF4Q80p8034MlPVJ5Jq7igRD0PnE7+lP QwqFI65pkfzFtr0tovBrkWjlRxphihpTPec6s3qe3qoGN3kGNNFqXzKMvIVIbD5bdw oveuEZexUaF/sffE/WVsmLsLStArhz4oIl1j7UipYZRVOAcd4X/sXHktLjZRvKxHC1 vVNbR1XjhE1YQmxlIiM+xJjzD2/CmzOeosbAjlYNj07CWnTSgGKggVoZEnpE86LBRn fS375QfP2mL7g== Subject: Re: [Fot] tattle tale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I use a System One inline filter on the Spitfire in addition to the normal filter. A few years back, I spun a bearing shortly after a rebuild. I was concerned that there may have been some residual debris in one of the oil lines even though they were flushed thoroughly. I installed a new oil cooler, but also wanted to make certain that there wasn't some debris left over from it's manufacturing. I installed the System One just before the oil goes back into the engine. I did catch some miniscule particles the first time or two I ran the engine. It's been totally clean since then, but it is reassuring. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 8 11:32:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268DD428E2 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 11:32:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm23.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm23.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999ED40696 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:15:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm23.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Mar 2013 22:15:05 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.248] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Mar 2013 22:15:05 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp111-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Mar 2013 22:15:05 -0000 s=s1024; t=1362694505; bh=xRFPTdt+a8OqkoVrZgyOiwrIbWHBc3eUCFNSDoTpc5M=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=3+Aao4Az4NmToMERLq9CPO3KxfIr1aDnel7HUSW9xSmf0MhYaQ7bquz/6FNbDKCB+jXcpGdodkLcJxcNVFy7dib1sRpvbQwcyQEhuf912uZn7KxtQ+bE2m6+M4iAtxNZucRZtQHKzHO5bTzXMsrEHFN9HHlcgvW4sew7G8xB09M= o0VhqQgQOxf1bAKI2rBB00rCjsccGMOgznP3k.AHVYWT4l2MDeEeWuv4Ch.Y 3L3OTxpEwdg74HOH99r39WXw7DsBpI7PXjCbpmOhEoK4eQ1J2vDPD5tglNci _d8e7dGi_.8lBeEY9XiSGP_ob3jwha7tBdEpbcAX8C.EKLUdwLSlAgojgMQS SLM700o.HLFCl3n308XfSMmueY.AIIruMJfWQ9KEsdpuThzcPraaHGpybmzb DIe0bhHIpUShMfcs33Zl6J_.jDhvEFZt4ZoMBt.e.dr8kI9RDWPj1YaHTPh2 Cm5bA8lRCaL20SJDCXPDszonrydupffPt3ozUaJHDxCYDAJvq_xOcxgLdBkR 5eKja1H5xI7x6USzWKKLwpTYAbr7XhNqBSN_Ag21GXjQnzYPbbQhk0z6_9Tw Zng_BoJaWdGQk9IJ3JAo1D_.e2l.d7lwqGQmp7GcGlKdSxQubJQnEr7U4tAH 1emipw1PWVwf4XFFm Received: from [26.14.4.251] (fasttrs@198.208.251.70 with xymcookie) by smtp111-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 07 Mar 2013 14:15:05 -0800 PST References: <20130305.192239.25239.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com> <406F0CAC-5F34-4428-A6C7-33A88EDA90F1@gdhs.com> From: Mike Munson Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 16:15:03 -0600 To: John Hasty Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] 5.5 Race Clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I run a dual disc 7.25" Tilton because a single disc wouldn't hold on my TR6. You may want to consider the 5.5 if you can get the proper torque values with them. Follow directions CLOSELY when setting the pedal travel stop and alignment of the transmission. Mike Munson #28 EP TR6 On Mar 6, 2013, at 7:33 PM, John Hasty wrote: > SPEC stage 3 paddle works great in my TR3A > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 6, 2013, at 12:22 AM, "Joe Boruch" wrote: > >> I use a double disc 7.25 Quartermaster in my TR3 with great results. Tried >> using a single disc unit. It lasted a season but found cracks in the disc >> upon removal. Went back to using double disc. Joe(B) >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------- >> From: "Peter Vucinic" >> To: >> Subject: [Fot] 5.5 Race Clutch >> Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 16:50:16 +1100 >> >> Dear Listers! >> >> >> >> Wondering if any of you are CURRENTLY or HAVE run 2.5l TR6/GT6 with a 5.5" >> Clutch pack. E.g. Quartermaster or Tilton etc.? >> >> >> >> Looking at fitting one of these to my TR6 project race car, so seeking some >> combined wisdom of the group! Good or Bad experiences! All accepted >> gracefully! >> >> >> >> Many thanks >> >> >> >> >> >> Kind Regards >> >> Peter Vucinic >> >> TR-4 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> 30-second trick for a flat belly >> This daily 30-second trick BOOSTS your body's #1 fat-burning hormone >> http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/51368c85353f5c850b74st03duc >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 8 11:32:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C226428E6 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 11:32:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8143D40334 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 19:11:08 -0700 (MST) a=xuSzmQoJ1jvkAIfTlZRNrg==:17 a=bADDkjKAeCQA:10 a=21a8pDwOGtEA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=3dBcEee90csA:10 a=jJrOw3FHAAAA:8 a=uVysgX2gDVJgsL8d5FAA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=FU4QsWcZpzsA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=HVxECUlrP7AaF0eNIwoA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=xuSzmQoJ1jvkAIfTlZRNrg==:117 Received: from [70.114.170.59] ([70.114.170.59:51436] helo=BlakePC) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 77/CE-20480-59849315; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 02:10:30 +0000 From: "Greg & Alison Blake" To: "'Triumph Friends of'" Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:10:32 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac4bohz+0fUbzRMRT4CepxXuT1fW9A== Content-Language: en-us Cc: 'Dave Foreman' , 'Piers Gormly' , 'William Collins' Subject: [Fot] CVAR Spring race report "delayed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We had a very exciting weekend at Texas World Speedway for CVARs Spring drivers school weekend Feb 22-24. CVAR politics aside, it was a great weekend. We had a record number (I believe) Triumphs participating. The list included: Bob Fire Ball Kramer - TR4a Andrew Smokey Kramer - TR4 Bob sticky piston Blake - TR4 Greg Blake - TR3  cant nick name myself I am sure someone will offer one Bill dip stick Collins - Spit Joe fiddle bits Hovey - Spit Jim Lee and son Philip - TR4 Philip was taking drivers school so no nick name yet Dave Foreman  Spit also taking drivers school Duncan Charlton - Morgan Piers Gormly  Morgan that looked somewhat similar to a green 911 this weekend for some reason And of course Bobby lefty Whitehead in his super powered monster car. We strongly encouraged Bobby to get that GT6 back into shape. Bobby already posted a pretty good recap of the weekend, to summarize, it was great. From my perspective there were several significant things that made this weekend so special. First, CVAR decided to break up group 7 which typically has CP, DP, and BS. DP and BS went to group 2 which is the home to EP and FP along with a few others. This meant that we had all of the Triumphs (except those in school) on track at the same time. The second thing was that sticky piston Blake finally got a checkered flag in the Sunday PM race. For most of us that have had the good fortune of the TR gods looking over our engines and keeping them together this does not seem like some great accomplishment. Well, for dad, it was. This was the first checkered flag in 18 months. In the past 18 months the engine has been out for full rebuild twice, head off countless times, and liners/pistons replaced multiple times. He seemed to have solved the sticky piston issue he was having and finally made it through a weekend. We were all very excited to see him take the checkered on Sunday afternoon. I am looking forward to watching dad get more seat time and less wrench time, it is well over due. Some of you will remmebr he got only 7 or 8 laps at Road Atlanta back in April. The group 2 races were fun. Saturday morning I was having trouble getting any temperature into my engine and only did one full lap during P&Q. This led to a fun back of the pack start for the race. Video link I had to cut the video in editing so it ends right after making the pass of the B Sedan. Not much in the race happened after this. I eventually caught but could not safely pass a BDA powered Escort. Fireball bought some new tires on Saturday evening and was ready for battle on Sunday morning. About > through the race my mirror was filled with Bobs grill, I knew he was coming. Turn 14 and I found myself watching the mirror and my normal breaking point was a distant memory when I finally clamped the binders. I went a little deep. I recovered only for a horrible entry to 15 and I went 4 off to the outside after being unable to coax the overwhelmed front tires to turn in. Since this was the penultimate lap, and I was right at the entry to the hot pits, I went in. I later told Bob that he was the reason for my first 4 off in the TR3. Needless to say he was all too happy to have assisted in that effort. Video link . I was ready for a rematch in the afternoon when it seemed fate took another turn with Dads car. There were electrical issues brewing and a quick look around we found a half melted battery in the trunk. Apparently the positive post did not like to be in contact with the metal hold down strap. Dad had a minor off of his own earlier and we figured the battery moved around a bit. We quickly loaded my car on the trailer and put my battery in dads car so he could get more seat time. That turned out to be a great choice since he finally got his checkered in that last Sunday race. A great weekend in all. We welcomed 2 new TR racers to the TxFOT, removed two transmissions, fixed two rear mounts, changed a head gasket, removed a broken ring gear, re-plumbed two cooling systems, swapped a battery, swapped a clutch slave cylinder, and fixed a smoky TR4. Oh and we watched Piers simply climb in that 911 and turn the key _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 8 11:33:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957D54291B for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 11:33:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 453C740334 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 21:21:07 -0700 (MST) a=eiJRm6rqGn8EJvXxHSdv4Q==:17 a=IYbAqjljJL4A:10 a=TU-1BkO61HoA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=hwLb5Xhxvo0A:10 a=jJrOw3FHAAAA:8 a=uVysgX2gDVJgsL8d5FAA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=FU4QsWcZpzsA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=vRcBYAOQhUIeTKx5uNwA:9 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=Q7qOy3rd9KQav3hi:21 a=eiJRm6rqGn8EJvXxHSdv4Q==:117 Received: from [70.112.152.241] ([70.112.152.241:1030] helo=kramerde634093) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id CB/9F-01418-80769315; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 04:20:28 +0000 From: "Bob Kramer" To: "'Greg & Alison Blake'" , "'Triumph Friends of'" Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 22:20:24 -0600 Cc: 'Dave Foreman' , 'Piers Gormly' , 'William Collins' Subject: Re: [Fot] CVAR Spring race report "delayed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I was a little pesky looking in the mirrors. I wasnt happy you went off, just happy to get by. In the video it looks like you had a chance to save it. I promise I wouldnt have hit you! Gad you moved the camera for video 2 -----Original Message----- From: Greg & Alison Blake [mailto:ablake2@austin.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 8:11 PM To: 'Triumph Friends of' Cc: 'Robert Blake'; 'Bob Kramer'; 'Bobby Whitehead'; 'Piers Gormly'; 'Joe Hovey'; 'William Collins'; 'Duncan Charlton'; 'Dave Foreman' Subject: CVAR Spring race report "delayed" We had a very exciting weekend at Texas World Speedway for CVARs Spring drivers school weekend Feb 22-24. CVAR politics aside, it was a great weekend. We had a record number (I believe) Triumphs participating. The list included: Bob Fire Ball Kramer - TR4a Andrew Smokey Kramer - TR4 Bob sticky piston Blake - TR4 Greg Blake - TR3  cant nick name myself I am sure someone will offer one Bill dip stick Collins - Spit Joe fiddle bits Hovey - Spit Jim Lee and son Philip - TR4 Philip was taking drivers school so no nick name yet Dave Foreman  Spit also taking drivers school Duncan Charlton - Morgan Piers Gormly  Morgan that looked somewhat similar to a green 911 this weekend for some reason And of course Bobby lefty Whitehead in his super powered monster car. We strongly encouraged Bobby to get that GT6 back into shape. Bobby already posted a pretty good recap of the weekend, to summarize, it was great. From my perspective there were several significant things that made this weekend so special. First, CVAR decided to break up group 7 which typically has CP, DP, and BS. DP and BS went to group 2 which is the home to EP and FP along with a few others. This meant that we had all of the Triumphs (except those in school) on track at the same time. The second thing was that sticky piston Blake finally got a checkered flag in the Sunday PM race. For most of us that have had the good fortune of the TR gods looking over our engines and keeping them together this does not seem like some great accomplishment. Well, for dad, it was. This was the first checkered flag in 18 months. In the past 18 months the engine has been out for full rebuild twice, head off countless times, and liners/pistons replaced multiple times. He seemed to have solved the sticky piston issue he was having and finally made it through a weekend. We were all very excited to see him take the checkered on Sunday afternoon. I am looking forward to watching dad get more seat time and less wrench time, it is well over due. Some of you will remmebr he got only 7 or 8 laps at Road Atlanta back in April. The group 2 races were fun. Saturday morning I was having trouble getting any temperature into my engine and only did one full lap during P&Q. This led to a fun back of the pack start for the race. Video link I had to cut the video in editing so it ends right after making the pass of the B Sedan. Not much in the race happened after this. I eventually caught but could not safely pass a BDA powered Escort. Fireball bought some new tires on Saturday evening and was ready for battle on Sunday morning. About > through the race my mirror was filled with Bobs grill, I knew he was coming. Turn 14 and I found myself watching the mirror and my normal breaking point was a distant memory when I finally clamped the binders. I went a little deep. I recovered only for a horrible entry to 15 and I went 4 off to the outside after being unable to coax the overwhelmed front tires to turn in. Since this was the penultimate lap, and I was right at the entry to the hot pits, I went in. I later told Bob that he was the reason for my first 4 off in the TR3. Needless to say he was all too happy to have assisted in that effort. Video link. I was ready for a rematch in the afternoon when it seemed fate took another turn with Dads car. There were electrical issues brewing and a quick look around we found a half melted battery in the trunk. Apparently the positive post did not like to be in contact with the metal hold down strap. Dad had a minor off of his own earlier and we figured the battery moved around a bit. We quickly loaded my car on the trailer and put my battery in dads car so he could get more seat time. That turned out to be a great choice since he finally got his checkered in that last Sunday race. A great weekend in all. We welcomed 2 new TR racers to the TxFOT, removed two transmissions, fixed two rear mounts, changed a head gasket, removed a broken ring gear, re-plumbed two cooling systems, swapped a battery, swapped a clutch slave cylinder, and fixed a smoky TR4. Oh and we watched Piers simply climb in that 911 and turn the key _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 8 11:33:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DDA240E29 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 11:33:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm28.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm28.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.187]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D72E04009B for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 05:27:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.215.142] by nm28.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Mar 2013 12:26:59 -0000 Received: from [76.13.13.226] by tm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Mar 2013 12:26:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp105-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Mar 2013 12:26:59 -0000 s=s1024; t=1362745619; bh=dGSie2XknLXiBsDIYlLsoZDdbgVOWj5MWKuTPncLF+4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=p6rrFXuVCx8/+miBNgs3BB1qlaf71+xHtmKhEfEXv3/CS5alW7f9vQCgvKW7ee9uBAMR7XyN9d0hegAF28kY8KEj5dXW4BNqVujWL3RGqSeZW5mnb9yrpGRTY9C+qhak/QJoP+tSSmcDIUvp5FJtTTB2gsRNx2IMvU50EmSppdc= d3.h8raWZpsogzoZPGb1802bw9k9gfHCfiJxcTdPo6c58mbu4iGdgijgindA OdDjikw5BByaVWN3F.1oujjRtObPPu2jkqjgRvv3HT8s07hApN1f3R.wTt2D GFoKyVG0WsGDU9Y6PR420Hw3kZYECSPxmjyPCTjfXv_aov_f03WS0fpCL4y0 a2ScDKCgLQtG4wzD0V1CCMVCW9Qk9PaPHyRLk8bFeYdhc3a2cZAUtkJDl0.u RH8CvpdBbvoSmjBDQhPaD92XZSaTMVACVhg4HLYiyWp.rc97Ha56ntIyQG_3 iowy1frft4xkNMWmzyimXKLe_JQcyk1qOj52HzQzPjyPm9cTEGoD22KmxhFH EJENQ6s9SqkYj1dh4oT0mg.MCBKF1JV_BRjyYq2o4LKowruyTEF721Y9tkNM x9vF4Rps2tQ-- Received: from [26.14.4.165] (fasttrs@198.208.251.70 with xymcookie) by smtp105-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Mar 2013 04:26:59 -0800 PST References: <20130305.192239.25239.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com> <406F0CAC-5F34-4428-A6C7-33A88EDA90F1@gdhs.com> From: Mike Munson Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 06:26:58 -0600 To: John Hasty Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] 5.5 Race Clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mike Munson #28 EP TR6 On Mar 7, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Mike Munson wrote: > I run a dual disc 7.25" Tilton because a single disc wouldn't hold on my TR6. You may want to consider the 5.5 if you can get the proper torque values with them. Follow directions CLOSELY when setting the pedal travel stop and alignment of the transmission. > > Mike Munson > #28 EP TR6 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 8 11:34:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3697428DB for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 11:34:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f178.google.com (mail-ob0-f178.google.com [209.85.214.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FEE640530 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 10:10:26 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ob0-f178.google.com with SMTP id wd20so1471682obb.9 for ; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 09:09:44 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date :cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=xcITyCMAq9ioM+LVU3334JI+8RkIlHK+cUU/Hu0/Bec=; b=pa9iHM3cSt+awBPloG2/K+2p7mikQR8g3vVx0IFc8FMnUXi0LYpXCuMvTodDSnNL25 7PcU+51WCyncgtSR4kOGToPFNiZH36UY9bu7aZTOSYLG2LPbs6W17IpaXPfRJK7hHjFv NOPEq/3TF7PYge6sNmHUlSaSioZO8JkN3a/ga4LA/LOjc39P5+U4c3Zqqw0x9Z81Sjz1 hKFjarHFhk77S8UWialzl72rcxu8kYxzVSJd3GL9UtsmEVTnV5NvR9NvliTR0pLLelLs w/E7NNvpJrFFFSGZcn9S6mHv1er8iAyBsPX3lGitxoKeXDhawDaEfS3u+DAaiSmrcRXy 1nTw== ad18mr2215868oec.105.1362762580160; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 09:09:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (client-69.170.103.221.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.221]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ka6sm6251743obb.3.2013.03.08.09.09.37 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 08 Mar 2013 09:09:39 -0800 (PST) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 11:09:35 -0600 References: <001f01ce1ba2$1d7e9550$587bbff0$@rr.com> To: Greg & Alison Blake Cc: 'Dave Foreman' , 'Piers Gormly' , 'William Collins' , 'Triumph Friends of' Subject: Re: [Fot] CVAR Spring race report "delayed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Nice overtake of Andrew's smoker on the outside at turn 7. Duncan _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 8 11:42:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE97F428DA for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 11:42:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1DA40515 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 11:42:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6116D1C00015F for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 13:41:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msb003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msb003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.137]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id A871DE000085 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 13:41:54 -0500 (EST) References: <8CFEA3A0F31373F-19A0-13076@webmail-d225.sysops.aol.com> To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d225.sysops.aol.com (149.174.160.231) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 08 Mar 2013 13:41:54 -0500 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 13:41:54 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1362768115; bh=QN/KAJ/spujJZKA4N2XFbWvaRntyZ23wGJkNejl3sFA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=v3YZAYp4pt/IfRLw0jX02YBa6oCWVbrB1euEihKsH9TatR/t6jrwmm3zmMuQaWGG9 XEQ4PnUg5P5yDlfOfU4fC71b7tViFb06RPXwJGd+uM8sawdXa/iyvzNGFS/9pljSyn O1g6nAAivCwUZuEHiJt6yHdFzZgP1KBwYqwBZohI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c513a30f226aa Subject: [Fot] Fwd: NEW FOT Lister JON GANNAWAY TR4/TR6 San Francisco Area Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander To: fot ; jgannaway Sent: Fri, Mar 8, 2013 11:32 am Subject: NEW FOT Lister JON GANNAWAY TR4/TR6 San Francisco Area Please welcome Jon Gannaway from California (jgannaway@calstar.org) I believe that Jon raced a Spitfire at one time. I believe that Jon currently owns a TR4 that once was owned by his father. Jon also has a TR6 that he is preparing for vintage racing with his son. He plans to prepare it modestly and to CSRG specs....kind of like Bill Tobin, methinks. This is our kind of guy..... Thank you....I am sure that Jon will add to or correct my introduction when he is ready. Regards, Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 8 18:06:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B5D428D7 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 18:06:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E58F4428DE for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 18:05:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FDFA109C for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 18:06:30 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 18:06:30 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16 To: FOT Subject: [Fot] TR3 seat pans? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=142 mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 8 18:44:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49768428EF for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 18:44:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm9-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm9-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C058A428B0 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 18:44:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.98] by nm9.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Mar 2013 01:43:54 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.65] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Mar 2013 01:43:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1002.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Mar 2013 01:43:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 31510 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Mar 2013 01:43:53 -0000 s=s1024; t=1362793433; bh=0L09BjFZNkIA6n5Y5AXjt3Xg1NolNjJd5CoQnS/Eq2g=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rUQcYepeA02PTPYCS+GPA5mHaauoaQtXG55mrc87kc0MGzdOL3TxCUuASsT4GvOm5eNCplHHQAwOLw4w7k+eNOKaRpIorIn0wp2YdJF57FNR0tumSgYq8mv3l82i0vvd6R3GFaHh2xaNljoK80eYej93GmggdUkav/HKMf+afIA= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=s5h0iSng+TrsbxV/rmbFYg5xLDbF86InDxAXU1FE1Gx2D1aOZzK1KmlZyWvY5qM+O9iUc7JbdBzL+QsoAsNNWHHEqIideYii477wYyxqzweFEyT1WySBTGi6LlMlqVVDyMHK0AYeOsRRq+xIWV8/sQFSAL6LW0tOhwyDTrMJU2I=; 6ggz4xUAozghLpzQTKeXgQRFce_pMlItY_kCHZZ_WQfhkHDYM01pfROdz5aX DSkd6PJhy0a8nEt70j4Drc9PUGrmMe6.LH6.Y2rMj_Hd_EAJDZHykcnN7khq eZwxyTcoubKBgNyYKdc9smc7gLDxPNjgUaAtEnt4ShgcxlndaGYIY6YxlcdR jsQMq5NgaGE4RBVTbZCSnZ8kwBWyrflyYpj8XgyoIvcEKTZ1n_2UF.8ai_mg ZkDv6yAKo_G7S3X7HK2qqelNjeiayV8G4NjJ1KWc7hWz95HqKzWBa0Ivmg68 F2aeyLWCqZxYxxdjVjwkZLk54F_OZMji2PQJvVHkycQdYpK3hGKyQFFiQMYs DXAhpbXIcmGJWJREF39H1BjMfqCdNy_ujw899uaoQONFYZSpByotN6MQ9du5 Mwe9t.bLudA-- Received: from [99.60.75.95] by web184805.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 17:43:53 PST SSBjYW4ndCBmaW5kIHRoZSBlbWFpbCBub3cgYnV0IGFuwqBGT1RlciB0b2xkIGJlIG1lIGEgc2ltcGxlIHdheSB0byBnZXQgbmVnYXRpdmUgCmNhbWJlci7CoCBJIGJlbGlldmUgaXQgaXMgdG8gcmV2ZXJzZSB0aGUgdXBwZXIgd2lzaGJvbmUgYW5kIEkgYmVsaWV2ZSBpdCBnaXZlcyAKYXBwcm94LiAyIDEvMiBkZWdyZWVzIG9mIG5lZ2F0aXZlIGNhbWJlci7CoCBSaWdodCBub3cgSSBoYXZlIDMvNCBkZWdyZWUgb2YgCm5lZ2F0aXZlIGNhbWJlciB1c2luZyBzaGltcyBhbmQgSSBhbSBnZXR0aW5nIGNvbnNpZGUBMAEBAQE- References: <0CD898FFC7EF4B459A2BF219F6E929F7@hpd530> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 17:43:53 -0800 (PST) From: sherry robyn To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Adjusting front camber on a TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I can't find the email now but an FOTer told be me a simple way to get negative camber. I believe it is to reverse the upper wishbone and I believe it gives approx. 2 1/2 degrees of negative camber. Right now I have 3/4 degree of negative camber using shims and I am getting considerable wear on the outside shoulder of my tires. My TR6 is used exclusively for autocrossing and an occasional hillclimb with no street use. What is the maximum camber I should have without causing issues? Also, what are the issues that start happening with extreme camber (2 1/2 to 3 degrees)? Thanks for any help on this. Jim _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 8 21:01:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48124428E6 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 21:01:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77544043A for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 21:01:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from AdminPC ([unknown] [173.49.179.103]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MJD00573KHAKFH0@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 22:00:48 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard Good" To: "sherry robyn" References: <0CD898FFC7EF4B459A2BF219F6E929F7@hpd530> <1362793433.12371.YahooMailRC@web184805.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 23:00:39 -0500 Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Adjusting front camber on a TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Jim, Reversing the upper fulcrum from factory orientation pulls the control arms in 1/4" and adds about 1.3 degrees negative camber if I remember my calculations correctly. You can do it without removing the control arms from the fulcrum. Just remove the four bolts holding the fulcrum to the tower and the two bolts through the ball joint and remove the whole assembly. Then hold the fulcrum and spin the control arms 180 degrees then bolt the whole assembly on the other side of the car. This keeps the front control arm in the front but reverses the fulcrum. Preferred camber will depend on the tires. The Hoosier A6's that I run for autocross and hillclimb want 3 degrees. They are 225/45-15 on 7" rims. To get that much camber and to keep the tires clear of my unmodified fenders I reversed the fulcrums and then slotted the bolt holes to slide them in even further. I just took the worn out tires off and the fronts wore fairly even. The rears were also set at 3 degrees but wore more on the inside from squatting under power. I backed it off to 2 degrees to see how that works out. Also changed to a slightly stiffer spring. Richard Good -------------------------------------------------- From: "sherry robyn" Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 8:43 PM To: Subject: [Fot] Adjusting front camber on a TR6 > I can't find the email now but an FOTer told be me a simple way to get > negative > camber. I believe it is to reverse the upper wishbone and I believe > it gives > approx. 2 1/2 degrees of negative camber. Right now I have 3/4 > degree of > negative camber using shims and I am getting considerable wear on > the outside > shoulder of my tires. My TR6 is used exclusively for > autocrossing and an > occasional hillclimb with no street use. What is the > maximum camber I should > have without causing issues? Also, what are the > issues that start happening > with extreme camber (2 1/2 to 3 degrees)? Thanks > for any help on this. Jim > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 8 22:23:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF8F9428D6 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 22:23:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from spam.calstar.org.calstar.org (unknown [66.60.136.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A6C1C4043A for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 22:23:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from securemail.calstar.org ([10.2.25.58]) by spam.calstar.org.calstar.org with SMTP id RylKxBBSBjuJyBWa for ; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 21:22:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.calstar.org (csmc-excaht01.calstar.corp [10.2.25.43]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by securemail.calstar.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 210C817A41B for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 21:22:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from CSMC-EXMB02.calstar.corp ([fe80::414e:15f3:9afa:600a]) by CSMC-EXCAHT01.calstar.corp ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 21:22:33 -0800 From: Jon Gannaway To: "'fot@autox.team.net'" Thread-Topic: Neg. camber on 1964 tr4 Thread-Index: Ac4chhnypuPWHpAUTkeiH5lvIzWSZA== Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 05:22:33 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.77.117.60] TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=1000.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, THREAD_INDEX, THREAD_TOPIC Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.01 THREAD_INDEX thread-index: AcO7Y8iR61tzADqsRmmc5wNiFHEOig== 0.01 THREAD_TOPIC Thread-Topic: ...(Japanese Subject)... 0.00 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message Subject: [Fot] Neg. camber on 1964 tr4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I am preparing a 1964 tr4 to vintage race in California. I am looking for simple and easy ways to get negative camber in the car. Any suggestions would be helpful. Jon Gannaway 831-402-4080 Disclaimer: The information in this e-mail transmission, or the documents accompanying this e-mail transmission, may contain confidential health information that is legally protected by state and federal law, including, but not limited to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 and related regulations. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail transmission is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this information, or if you are not properly authorized to receive this information, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken in reliance on the contents of this e-mail or the attached documents is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately by sending a reply e-mail indicating that you have arranged for the deletion of this e-mail and a destruction of this e-mail and any attached documents. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 9 09:36:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886D642919 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 09:36:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C214051E for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 09:36:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.9]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8A5E01C0000F2; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 11:35:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msb002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msb002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.133]) by mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 5036EE000081; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 11:35:38 -0500 (EST) From: N197TR4@cs.com Full-name: N197TR4 Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 11:35:38 -0500 (EST) To: JGannaway@calstar.org, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1362846938; bh=qAbTMZRR+Q0CuxXLWxeYgrGlEv3puZjgjN5TbPU/Bms=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hoylLRy8PfcSMGECGOZ5K8L6WEPHg+VdDjX4If1wT9H1YzY3pVCjBtOQ8GyuUcN5b wrhQ1+NEtni1Xv/O9ViH3R0jioqg2rC9CjUkctEoVmLD4cktIEj42VnWuOJBibCWEv NgDkgHLAx4YHSreeLXBPhrIqpUl286TuNag0hCoU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2909513b64da186b Subject: Re: [Fot] Neg. camber on 1964 tr4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Jon, We (and several others) have sectioned the wishbones to shorten and adjust to about 2.5 degrees, as I remember it. On the other end of the spectrum, Gary Horskorta (in your neighborhood) developed fixturing to produce a fully adjustable upper A-arm. If you scroll to the bottom, you will see "Archive: some information from there. I dont know what Dave Hogye did, but whatever it was, it would be first cabin. He might jump in on this The list seems a bit quiet right now with folks getting ready for the season. Welcome aboard to the FOT.. Hop on a plane with your son and join us at Road America in September. We will be all paddocked together in what seems to be the best Kastner Cup we have ever had. A lot of activities, track touring, notables from all over North America, and about 10-15 Triumph guys from Europe and the U.K. Memorable. Joe (A) > I am preparing a 1964 tr4 to vintage race in California. I am looking for > simple and easy ways to get negative camber in the car. Any suggestions > would be helpful. > > Jon Gannaway > 831-402-4080 > > > _____ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > > > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 9 12:18:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D28DB40540 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 12:18:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.55.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 84D2D4051C for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 12:15:03 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 21066 invoked by uid 0); 9 Mar 2013 19:14:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO just64.justhost.com) (173.254.28.64) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Mar 2013 19:14:14 -0000 Received: from [173.22.113.197] (port=59206 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UEPDh-0005VN-W3; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 12:14:14 -0700 Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 13:14:09 -0600 To: Jon Gannaway , "'fot@autox.team.net'" From: Tony Drews ar.corp> References: <4A37CD413E64BE45A53C530F73023B8B2F7FBCDD@CSMC-EXMB02.calstar.corp> {sentby:smtp auth 173.22.113.197 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] Neg. camber on 1964 tr4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net What Richard Good just described for the TR-6 applies to the TR-4 as well. Tony Richard's message if you missed it: "Reversing the upper fulcrum from factory orientation pulls the control arms in 1/4" and adds about 1.3 degrees negative camber if I remember my calculations correctly. You can do it without removing the control arms from the fulcrum. Just remove the four bolts holding the fulcrum to the tower and the two bolts through the ball joint and remove the whole assembly. Then hold the fulcrum and spin the control arms 180 degrees then bolt the whole assembly on the other side of the car. This keeps the front control arm in the front but reverses the fulcrum. Preferred camber will depend on the tires. The Hoosier A6's that I run for autocross and hillclimb want 3 degrees. They are 225/45-15 on 7" rims. To get that much camber and to keep the tires clear of my unmodified fenders I reversed the fulcrums and then slotted the bolt holes to slide them in even further. I just took the worn out tires off and the fronts wore fairly even. The rears were also set at 3 degrees but wore more on the inside from squatting under power. I backed it off to 2 degrees to see how that works out. Also changed to a slightly stiffer spring." At 11:22 PM 3/8/2013, Jon Gannaway wrote: >I am preparing a 1964 tr4 to vintage race in California. I am looking for >simple and easy ways to get negative camber in the car. Any suggestions >would be helpful. > >Jon Gannaway >831-402-4080 > > >Disclaimer: The information in this e-mail transmission, or the documents >accompanying this e-mail transmission, may contain confidential health >information that is legally protected by state and federal law, including, but >not limited to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 >and related regulations. This information is intended only for the use of the >individual or entity to whom this e-mail transmission is addressed. If you are >not the intended recipient of this information, or if you are not properly >authorized to receive this information, you are hereby notified that any >disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken in reliance on the contents >of this e-mail or the attached documents is strictly prohibited. If you have >received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately by >sending a reply e-mail indicating that you have arranged for the deletion of >this e-mail and a destruction of this e-mail and any attached documents. >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 9 13:14:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046A340531 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 13:14:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBFFD4051C for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 12:42:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9Szs1l00C1wfjNsA1XhYbL; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 19:41:32 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9XfX1l00a2xZMJ48jXfXBy; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 19:39:31 +0000 Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 19:39:31 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: N197TR4@cs.com s=q20121106; t=1362858092; bh=jdVna9ZHkyXbZ1JM+CoOl710BYPxqpUkkFgMn6rANkk=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=HvE4gapTY+ila/g1/EZOn/apX3kBfDtjSedjs+vs4LpJ4sJTDh7AspoYzAY46Eo/z /ExyWphaeex0Qvz7IH/aSQmffnlgFqrsE+WPEXkgQRL3bNHz0z1KP9FQyNTVBDWHaA pvylyT/jmQeGQx3helpvBTxL3CUl/3chRA1Shz+jNcD9WGDicTYbFpTaIzPzMH4diK Bm7Z++htIZ1SH9ZXcPCneJxRRLJnJ047jmn/FDB4iLKin6pRfAftorVYQnejFIafSM lvo8QlHlIvd6zUTzqBkB7GKEj73DFfdK6Wlyfp7iDSKvfSk0qZeLJgwkeCIVjDLYZ0 nNupDP/U1eDRg== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Neg. camber on 1964 tr4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Jon, Welcome to the FoT. Thanks Joe, for linking me in to this topic. I too would scan the archives for suspension information. First and foremost, all TR3/4 suspension modifications involve switching to TR4A/TR6 upper A-arms and 3 degree caster trunnion. I believe the early TR4s had the 0 degree trunnion as did the TR2/3. Jon, if that's what is on your car, it has to be changed. Tony Drews documented this extensively on his website, tonydrews.com. Tony changes everything to TR4A/TR6, including the upright. The through bolt trunnion is one of the best aspects of this change. This trunnion makes further adjustments and servicing much easier. I used the RevingtonTR adjustable fulcrum pivot on my TR3. I thought it was a good compromise to the cut and shut a-arm method and adjustable rod end type. However, I do think that the adjustable rod end is the best way to go and that is what Gary has fine tuned. I know that a few others have used the rod end modification, including uncle jack. The Revington TR fulcrum pin spaces the a-arms outward and I had a clearance issue on the inner wheel well body work on my TR3. I trimmed the pin as much as I could beyond the Nyloc nut fastener and tweaked the body work slightly. With the outward spacing on the a-arms they use spacers on each side of the ball joint. This can cause clearance problems between the a-arm and the wheel. I experienced this on one side and made further adjustments. I know a TR2 and a TR3 racer that use the Revington design, they race with HMSA. Come to think of it, these guys should be in the FoT. Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- From: N197TR4@cs.com To: JGannaway@calstar.org, fot@autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2013 8:35:38 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Neg. camber on 1964 tr4 Jon, We (and several others) have sectioned the wishbones to shorten and adjust to about 2.5 degrees, as I remember it. On the other end of the spectrum, Gary Horskorta (in your neighborhood) developed fixturing to produce a fully adjustable upper A-arm. If you scroll to the bottom, you will see "Archive: some information from there. I dont know what Dave Hogye did, but whatever it was, it would be first cabin. He might jump in on this The list seems a bit quiet right now with folks getting ready for the season. Welcome aboard to the FOT.. Hop on a plane with your son and join us at Road America in September. We will be all paddocked together in what seems to be the best Kastner Cup we have ever had. A lot of activities, track touring, notables from all over North America, and about 10-15 Triumph guys from Europe and the U.K. Memorable. Joe (A) > I am preparing a 1964 tr4 to vintage race in California. I am looking for > simple and easy ways to get negative camber in the car. Any suggestions > would be helpful. > > Jon Gannaway > 831-402-4080 > > > _____ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > > > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 9 18:59:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0289342855 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 18:59:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from icp-osb-irony-out2.external.iinet.net.au (icp-osb-irony-out2.external.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.218]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4013403FB for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 18:59:18 -0700 (MST) d="scan'208";a="93969553" Received: from unknown (HELO PetersTowerPC) ([114.198.72.102]) by icp-osb-irony-out2.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 10 Mar 2013 09:58:26 +0800 From: "Peter Vucinic" To: "'Jon Gannaway'" , References: <4A37CD413E64BE45A53C530F73023B8B2F7FBCDD@CSMC-EXMB02.calstar.corp> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:58:38 +1100 Thread-Index: Ac4chhnypuPWHpAUTkeiH5lvIzWSZAArGScA Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [Fot] Neg. camber on 1964 tr4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Have a look at the MOSS 1.5 DEG Negative Camber Vertical links. TT3003 Easy and cost effective! Kind Regards Peter Vucinic TR-4 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jon Gannaway Sent: Saturday, 9 March 2013 4:23 PM To: 'fot@autox.team.net' Subject: [Fot] Neg. camber on 1964 tr4 I am preparing a 1964 tr4 to vintage race in California. I am looking for simple and easy ways to get negative camber in the car. Any suggestions would be helpful. Jon Gannaway 831-402-4080 Disclaimer: The information in this e-mail transmission, or the documents accompanying this e-mail transmission, may contain confidential health information that is legally protected by state and federal law, including, but not limited to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 and related regulations. 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If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately by sending a reply e-mail indicating that you have arranged for the deletion of this e-mail and a destruction of this e-mail and any attached documents. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/pvucinic@netspace.net.au _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 10 09:43:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341C640333 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:43:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm13.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm13.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.214]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E0304006E for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:43:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.200] by nm13.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2013 15:42:28 -0000 Received: from [68.142.198.207] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2013 15:42:28 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp111.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2013 15:42:27 -0000 fXKjBT_m1Aq6jDhLeWStYwoUlZBexm2.W3xD7z6a4PGryM_ATx0oW2L43mqQ HvR6qtfG2WQDPtz9s.c2kXCNo4jHG69Q1k4SmnjSGIkxDhDauDmPs3_xtyOb yu9fdjBdd1UoE8GS9iLDiVyd1ufe0qV.ldq3.lbj_kp0eiyFOlZ4gx.DUTiS GBt2.lK7M0abQGKJBy5hHrksrCZ9tTJi4rlKR9c8HYRHe0CSkbAEFXb81tFv QqhbDmXWa5dN6rNIwcjS0c26_duK2wJEQkFmfK.4hs2YNu1j5O82y7lA.ygF 0ubtvjK1qaO_Sfhj83NOR6vQWy0LJ.Mwv95Gf5vo2CheE15.BrGhTTXREUcN 8RMJ_z9k1_YdrKXWBCwcuNTAki5n1jru85l4BOUNYFtne5Br03LOd2uGLpbA V.ACuwDhmU1_9.zmh6ofydB7C76peTGul2TlNrqQjZKmxJlMaVVW37PjOTaY vRpjqWTZXPAq6SLmsKExgZixeOg7EXil99lVJwnmufVcDd8Ubtvdx37rhIGf rooOfsf30_NlYWUDv0k3Sxz3SGSnTWic2FGGZIHE2uDmVOuIxenKjinSg5rd dI9wlLDW_76.jr0dEOgQ- Received: from [192.168.1.77] (cartravel@99.98.58.190 with plain) by smtp111.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Mar 2013 08:42:27 -0700 PDT Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:42:45 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <4A37CD413E64BE45A53C530F73023B8B2F7FBCDD@CSMC-EXMB02.calstar.corp> <20130309191902.12BD640528@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] Neg. camber on 1964 tr4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It seems like it would be difficult to get enough change in camber for a TR3/4 by reversing the fulcrum. The factory spec is +2 degrees, so it takes quite a lot to get to -2. Lowering helps a little, less than 1/2 degree. If you shorten the upper A arms as many of us have done, you have to remove at least 1/2 inch. I wrote a short report when I studied the suspension on my TR3 (see http://tildentechnologies.com/downloads/TRsuspension.PDF). There is a neat way to shorten the upper A arms that I discovered from Bob Kramer that does not involve cutting them in two. I can put up a photo if anyone is interested in it. The modification is not obvious for organizations that do not permit Heim joints, etc. Larry On 3/9/2013 1:14 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > What Richard Good just described for the TR-6 applies to the TR-4 as > well. > > Tony > > Richard's message if you missed it: > "Reversing the upper fulcrum from factory orientation pulls the > control arms in 1/4" and adds about 1.3 degrees negative camber if I > remember my calculations correctly. You can do it without removing > the control arms from the fulcrum. Just remove the four bolts > holding the fulcrum to the tower and the two bolts through the ball > joint and remove the whole assembly. Then hold the fulcrum and spin > the control arms 180 degrees then bolt the whole assembly on the other > side of the car. This keeps the front control arm in the front but > reverses the fulcrum. > > Preferred camber will depend on the tires. The Hoosier A6's that I > run for autocross and hillclimb want 3 degrees. They are 225/45-15 on > 7" rims. To get that much camber and to keep the tires clear of my > unmodified fenders I reversed the fulcrums and then slotted the bolt > holes to slide them in even further. I just took the worn out tires > off and the fronts wore fairly even. The rears were also set at 3 > degrees but wore more on the inside from squatting under power. I > backed it off to 2 degrees to see how that works out. Also changed to > a slightly stiffer spring." > > At 11:22 PM 3/8/2013, Jon Gannaway wrote: >> I am preparing a 1964 tr4 to vintage race in California. I am >> looking for >> simple and easy ways to get negative camber in the car. Any >> suggestions >> would be helpful. >> >> Jon Gannaway >> 831-402-4080 >> >> >> Disclaimer: The information in this e-mail transmission, or the >> documents >> accompanying this e-mail transmission, may contain confidential health >> information that is legally protected by state and federal law, >> including, but >> not limited to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability >> Act of 1996 >> and related regulations. This information is intended only for the >> use of the >> individual or entity to whom this e-mail transmission is addressed. >> If you are >> not the intended recipient of this information, or if you are not >> properly >> authorized to receive this information, you are hereby notified that any >> disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken in reliance on the >> contents >> of this e-mail or the attached documents is strictly prohibited. If >> you have >> received this information in error, please notify the sender >> immediately by >> sending a reply e-mail indicating that you have arranged for the >> deletion of >> this e-mail and a destruction of this e-mail and any attached documents. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel@pobox.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 10 12:24:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C95EE40540 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:24:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm27-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm27-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 418B74042B for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:24:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.126] by nm27.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2013 18:23:44 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.50] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2013 18:23:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp103.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2013 18:23:44 -0000 Tc1Py5_hJW.s1PYm2sbZISxUNEdRaUYtM6gmfOPuAl9jgA0ruosfc69jmFFc K2taM0z9HfxUeieO3DfuxgP6EB2ybU1YsITnrTDqPs.f1gdjfrmWRI_xP.ta .HMq0wPMM8y3AVnO2h44DgtgOC3IYxqDf5oooggUDyJU5iCSOjc9s2fr_pSr svZlWwNGAzyMz9DOJ7a1l6lWtmTBFWu_uosNTkmqEtALjy4WlajknbUWjTsq yzbUSscUoLDrCpj3vOkrgGdZqOGyisocgdQnwAFLQuws0GsjOtfwds4_7V.l scZ5lvm3nYf1U03x4kzp9qB.0TDJDvrz_tQhsagqPGS6U3yVMX5DYurTKeOy y4nDUn.cWDyo00XBWVmQcTBK9v8pb8nN25hN6fwlm4jMNIrx7ItM_Yek1sAU b0bw9Ip6qzjzh6RfFK6bIncLXoWXFznEjdMEvFGMenvTNncpYjshqDmTN6.n E.ZnoUegGA8VObH1K8.FzZKbsqsD.o128wfcjomBbtt_BVw-- Received: from [192.168.1.77] (cartravel@99.98.58.190 with plain) by smtp103.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Mar 2013 11:23:44 -0700 PDT Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 13:24:01 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 To: Cregg Cowan , FOT@autox.team.net References: <4A37CD413E64BE45A53C530F73023B8B2F7FBCDD@CSMC-EXMB02.calstar.corp> <20130309191902.12BD640528@autox.team.net> <513CA9F5.8090209@pobox.com> <513CB149.30507@sri.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Neg. camber on 1964 tr4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Here is a photo of some upper A arms I did to give 2 degrees negative camber on my TR3 (now John Hasty's) - http://www.flickr.com/photos/53707928@N02 Cut off the end, drill new holes at the correct location. The short piece of pipe supports the hole that is not on the flat part. This looks much nicer than cutting a piece out of the middle and welding them back together. From geometric calculations it takes about 0.174 inches to change the camber 1 degree. I believe this agrees with the numbers that Richard Good had in his post. Larry On 3/10/2013 11:14 AM, Cregg Cowan wrote: > Yes, please do send or post photos. > Thank you! > > Cregg _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 10 12:45:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8DE424C7 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:45:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm23.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm23.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.88]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B104042B for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:30:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.198] by nm23.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2013 18:29:17 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.212] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2013 18:29:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp101.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2013 18:29:17 -0000 C8YOUFGlfShoc46tna6ui.Hgaq7m4ypWpTUdbbdnQl.66Hrx5W8wO_bPpJrb y_ZpJAjOMQBKuE252Et1AcHsNNd_73zU2aA7967SQrE20JNbny8T84SBLkr_ wbGmzKgwdLK5tk7CNEcK8hAu3D_BneN9yAon00AFk11Ovq8LvBN7cJcbkNyf Q729qILCHIZvq4kJDOgvmd46kYTXCDJyFUaQSn4VVOCxnvZJDwv4hbGBdw.v gGLMrhnqp9J9E.XF9JN1slsv06ipOqRCKUPwcbhvG.aa85Kfdb.imPCrAL87 c1osBhfIbEBGuhkIP1Y5DqZCb.jSGOleVjOfOB0pfU_D8Llm.MsY2aY2RItj 0QjePHQmNbbPq8CfYWiPnmcc4qkmPYrH2dQO4SQVrLNPXxFyqTmkguALkzdn ZobQMJIdKK2rsTiHyWnA7YD32UBicNg56oqOpzYTCWpumdZEDUVNgE.gxGsc hIQb73R1mPMgCZyyBnJ6YtrhV1.NAfKHsgt44YUQnzA3MSWN7imRCLapRbda 8TUw9r6yJCHPQxfwMtSMg8jqWvCF_Oolqocxxkof14SnwogPFjha0nK4MwKZ Csi9sbNCqmOW.VFB7 Received: from [192.168.1.77] (cartravel@99.98.58.190 with plain) by smtp101.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Mar 2013 11:29:17 -0700 PDT Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 13:29:34 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 To: FOT@autox.team.net References: Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Re: Neg. camber on 1964 tr4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I believe this was intended for the list. I accidentally send to the sender all the time -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Fot] Neg. camber on 1964 tr4 Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:58:16 -0700 From: Kas Kastner To: Larry Young I was probably the first to turn the upper "A" arm fulcrum around back in 1958 trying to get some negative camber. This move does not give enough change in the camber. You just about have the wheel straight up only, eleminating the factory setting of positive camber. In the end I had to bend the verticle link to get the desired two degrees negative. I describe several other methods of achieving a negative camber in my first book, the Triumph Preparation Handbook, try pages 202-205 for some more information.. *Never be beaten by equipment.* On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Larry Young Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A445C42912 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 16:36:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2CBF4284C for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 16:36:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.59]) by qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9wQr1l0041GhbT855yb9H2; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 22:35:09 +0000 Received: from ComputerPC ([71.60.181.57]) by omta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9yb81l00n1EiJYf3Tyb8mU; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 22:35:08 +0000 From: "Stutzmans" To: "Larry Young" , References: <4A37CD413E64BE45A53C530F73023B8B2F7FBCDD@CSMC-EXMB02.calstar.corp><20130309191902.12BD640528@autox.team.net> <513CA9F5.8090209@pobox.com> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 18:35:08 -0400 s=q20121106; t=1362954909; bh=92A5GZ+aHfse2TjDOoJw5cPfhkSVuKr+XJEXTNae92Y=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=XH4g5VaDjAYQpd14E51LYYPDJ6QGQD0j0Qyg7nIIH5j2CAexyuvlOzr7wEfGgvDcD NLv0+aC7djoRTcwNMvQyCS3C5uGsWW44CzsTxpasVm+OCWaISeDyab3LmYiKwZSOwQ h1IoFnUWc751jrewU3E+l3I3kwPOnzBfSFcu7UONGm/o2YjiUcyZvaYb+1+5MA3H2o IMvlNqAWe614ALvN7FFgd+pMfsnE8bfUX8TGBqdYCRWe6Jj2XWA2iDXIBbNR3s8Qla BsrzIZH7I5sE5F2qP/tZkmGgv7Ai7yIkIh/kOnhbIDIAAK/6pqgp+efW7E4SvXEw3/ 5vXV4+ZXr5wTA== Subject: Re: [Fot] Neg. camber on 1964 tr4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Although the manual doesn't say so; I think that when they went to what would be the TR6 upper A arms and ball joint and 3 deg. trunnions (CT6345), the camber changed to 0 deg. from the TR3 and early TR4 2 deg. positive. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Young" To: Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Neg. camber on 1964 tr4 > It seems like it would be difficult to get enough change in camber for a > TR3/4 by reversing the fulcrum. The factory spec is +2 degrees, so it > takes quite a lot to get to -2. Lowering helps a little, less than 1/2 > degree. If you shorten the upper A arms as many of us have done, you have > to remove at least 1/2 inch. I wrote a short report when I studied the > suspension on my TR3 (see > http://tildentechnologies.com/downloads/TRsuspension.PDF). There is a neat > way to shorten the upper A arms that I discovered from Bob Kramer that > does not involve cutting them in two. I can put up a photo if anyone is > interested in it. The modification is not obvious for organizations that > do not permit Heim joints, etc. > Larry > > On 3/9/2013 1:14 PM, Tony Drews wrote: >> What Richard Good just described for the TR-6 applies to the TR-4 as >> well. >> >> Tony >> >> Richard's message if you missed it: >> "Reversing the upper fulcrum from factory orientation pulls the control >> arms in 1/4" and adds about 1.3 degrees negative camber if I remember my >> calculations correctly. You can do it without removing the control arms >> from the fulcrum. Just remove the four bolts holding the fulcrum to the >> tower and the two bolts through the ball joint and remove the whole >> assembly. Then hold the fulcrum and spin the control arms 180 degrees >> then bolt the whole assembly on the other side of the car. This keeps >> the front control arm in the front but reverses the fulcrum. >> >> Preferred camber will depend on the tires. The Hoosier A6's that I run >> for autocross and hillclimb want 3 degrees. They are 225/45-15 on 7" >> rims. To get that much camber and to keep the tires clear of my >> unmodified fenders I reversed the fulcrums and then slotted the bolt >> holes to slide them in even further. I just took the worn out tires off >> and the fronts wore fairly even. The rears were also set at 3 degrees >> but wore more on the inside from squatting under power. I backed it off >> to 2 degrees to see how that works out. Also changed to a slightly >> stiffer spring." >> >> At 11:22 PM 3/8/2013, Jon Gannaway wrote: >>> I am preparing a 1964 tr4 to vintage race in California. I am looking >>> for >>> simple and easy ways to get negative camber in the car. Any >>> suggestions >>> would be helpful. >>> >>> Jon Gannaway >>> 831-402-4080 >>> >>> >>> Disclaimer: The information in this e-mail transmission, or the >>> documents >>> accompanying this e-mail transmission, may contain confidential health >>> information that is legally protected by state and federal law, >>> including, but >>> not limited to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act >>> of 1996 >>> and related regulations. This information is intended only for the use >>> of the >>> individual or entity to whom this e-mail transmission is addressed. If >>> you are >>> not the intended recipient of this information, or if you are not >>> properly >>> authorized to receive this information, you are hereby notified that any >>> disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken in reliance on the >>> contents >>> of this e-mail or the attached documents is strictly prohibited. If you >>> have >>> received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately >>> by >>> sending a reply e-mail indicating that you have arranged for the >>> deletion of >>> this e-mail and a destruction of this e-mail and any attached documents. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel@pobox.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/stutzmans@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 10 17:37:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304EA4291A for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 17:37:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm12.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm12.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.213]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A34E54035A for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 17:37:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.194] by nm12.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2013 23:36:42 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.175] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2013 23:36:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp109.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2013 23:36:42 -0000 VDQiuWFOi2AV9fRuAXzaI993ZDumlQP.RNMab.j1mCIt0R.wRbXssgH6VcHU Kyzp9hDtEaZP2Eh7JuPtl2N6Eg8k8BEPqB3ZNM3V3Yh_4Yw6m41W4.ivMmPg ECw7b.rscr05VEI_xokf9PyO7QQ_9Ij0T5wvnNmyw7D2Cv2uSPc6TFuHhprX Iro5udojsZzPraavlQXALoVQHl0YjQwQMt7fHBZtv1Nc013BEtxzd6kFlHg7 gOC8UMBbCW7GPuQKfn5P6f4tcrmW5VmLQfWmonNvalfuAqpqy4Exp0HxSMsl cOgvxkXYUP_zuTpxsT_OhtxX9o8ryCGuc6k16VbBMdZOsKClQ7NTCP_IpLDH QXS5u5SAAWPfXjKkLVVct4JfHsbAr0wgRwpi1RgMEmIPYgcWsVWlr8AxiDg7 6YVOeKDTXzbyfGkzlGkG0xA-- Received: from [192.168.1.77] (cartravel@99.98.58.190 with plain) by smtp109.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Mar 2013 16:36:41 -0700 PDT Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 18:36:59 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 To: Stutzmans References: <4A37CD413E64BE45A53C530F73023B8B2F7FBCDD@CSMC-EXMB02.calstar.corp><20130309191902.12BD640528@autox.team.net> <513CA9F5.8090209@pobox.com> <60FA7EC52AB144DB92066A6EDF0718CD@ComputerPC> Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Neg. camber on 1964 tr4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net My TR3 had the original suspension A arm system before with 0 caster. If you Iook at my report, I measured something a bit less than 2 degrees camber and not the same from side to side. I chaulked that up to wear and tear. I did not see an appreciable change in the camber when I switched to the the TR4 A arms with 3 degrees of caster. Also, the amount I had to shorten the A arms agreed with the value I calculated from measurements, i.e. 0.174 inches/deg. I thought the change in the stock camber started with the adjustable camber system installled in the TR4A. I haven't researched this, so perhaps someone else has some verification. Larry On 3/10/2013 5:35 PM, Stutzmans wrote: > Although the manual doesn't say so; I think that when they went to > what would be the TR6 upper A arms and ball joint and 3 deg. trunnions > (CT6345), the camber changed to 0 deg. from the TR3 and early TR4 2 > deg. positive. > Bruce _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 11 18:40:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A704053E for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 18:40:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0038D4052C for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 18:39:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7EEA1429 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 18:41:00 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 18:40:59 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Clive Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I liked the posts about Clive on facebook, nicely done. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 11 19:24:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4100340549 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:24:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm16.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm16.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.217]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6CE42855 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 18:41:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.192] by nm16.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Mar 2013 00:40:19 -0000 Received: from [68.142.198.106] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Mar 2013 00:40:19 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp108.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Mar 2013 00:40:19 -0000 x6cLQHAUmt25eHw3bLrQSgTPT5J0whjrdhH.nDYy8xR_OskmuMQKCx0N3awa 1V54faIWrZQZJNKfR7gJ3Jyj_TFoeBnb7qbCAt4CwXd5MmS0_t2u30YIpbJ6 ESbxDrXDZcUA6vS9vAYZ12GiHcE6ialoKHuI_HaUXjnqVe3t8yu_N.lLq8H4 0bIE5QhHgC0xBNUhoxIDFhpImbLARdpneq4UwAkYuoksSi1s_W8jCSI9F08V SkiI7rQPEvCh3of7YAR146gepGluWZRcqPF3nSYr9KWtbxZpEz0PC9FVaf_4 m0qV2i7J2umV3cLZXjHd9QcYR5MRhUGs2YoyOB.RI9kVWupR8ng9pBQhko9A IlqQsqhjhJi8w0WA4nSGuUGVlUILcR7oB6ZCnzfrLk8hkYjnkeBEXzf7fon5 eqOFKYN4ohKMH5joDPKBBug-- Received: from [192.168.1.77] (cartravel@99.98.58.190 with plain) by smtp108.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Mar 2013 17:40:19 -0700 PDT Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 19:40:37 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 To: Bill Babcock References: <4A37CD413E64BE45A53C530F73023B8B2F7FBCDD@CSMC-EXMB02.calstar.corp><20130309191902.12BD640528@autox.team.net> <513CA9F5.8090209@pobox.com> <60FA7EC52AB144DB92066A6EDF0718CD@ComputerPC> <0B3196E9-37D4-4F37-B4F7-49F5C04031C6@bnj.com> Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Neg. camber on 1964 tr4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I think that is the same software I used. I did not find an appreciable difference between the two methods (shortening the A arms or moving the pivots inwards). You don't really need suspension software to look at this simple stuff. I found a spreadsheet agreed with it and was not as cumbersome. On 3/10/2013 7:06 PM, Bill Babcock wrote:I > According to the analysis I did with my suspension software (SuspPro) the most useful way to change camber on a TR3 is to move the upper arms inward and kee.p them the same length. I use the TR6 bits to get caster and cut the upper arms to add heim joints to make an adjustable arm, but the length is close to stock, just has the pivot moved inwards. > > If you shorten the upper A arms you wind up with a lot of camber at full bump. It's also pretty hard to get the bump steer out with shorter arms, the outer pivot point moves well inside the lower pivot. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 11 19:24:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D2542499 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:24:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f47.google.com (mail-la0-f47.google.com [209.85.215.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1027C40419 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 13:08:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f47.google.com with SMTP id fj20so3219338lab.34 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:07:23 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=3y10HVwd8yyfmAJ7xFHJmXQjfUlxeUgJDIewekTLS/4=; b=FgTC6FHddl9r0gI1OEfrNEoSn1EpXaoOCCOhz56hSdbIskJOix5EyVhdlfFhQtoqMm VgDx54Z46hiA9rHt4a/JDA/0SDbb+fb1a3Qq9V70yAUbvy/LpKIfScjQ/Gzc5bV+y3NN Mo/xOw82Hol/qU4cXGRM7omQ/43wKvn24qo7OSSYtnYzru61C/TdD9YxmPtCd2D9G0EI gyqdGID/slWuGQXye+Q/YtSwjBWELdQRsfvTcgqtSSXG+aSn0i5ABjnui4PddRlVHxmY 0p+BzzYDP89+ClVuARqGv5pxD3lN5LVKlugqgbAFHbSnJALFZoTboeeNJBq48T6r+Hhv Xmbg== o9mr3652544lbd.42.1362942442828; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:07:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.33.48 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:06:42 -0700 (PDT) References: <513CD10E.5030209@pobox.com> From: Kas Kastner Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:06:42 -0700 To: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Re: Neg. camber on 1964 tr4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net *Never be beaten by equipment.* > I was probably the first to turn the upper "A" arm fulcrum around back > in 1958 trying to get some negative camber. This move does not give > enough change in the camber. You just about have the wheel straight up > only, eleminating the factory setting of positive camber. > In the end I had to bend the verticle link to get the desired two > degrees negative. I describe several other methods of achieving a > negative camber in my first book, the Triumph Preparation Handbook, > try pages 202-205 for some more information.. > > *Never be beaten by equipment.* > > > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Larry Young > It seems like it would be difficult to get enough change in camber > for a TR3/4 by reversing the fulcrum. The factory spec is +2 > degrees, so it takes quite a lot to get to -2. Lowering helps a > little, less than 1/2 degree. If you shorten the upper A arms as > many of us have done, you have to remove at least 1/2 inch. I wrote > a short report when I studied the suspension on my TR3 (see > http://tildentechnologies.com/downloads/TRsuspension.PDF). There is > a neat way to shorten the upper A arms that I discovered from Bob > Kramer that does not involve cutting them in two. I can put up a > photo if anyone is interested in it. The modification is not > obvious for organizations that do not permit Heim joints, etc. > Larry > > On 3/9/2013 1:14 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > > What Richard Good just described for the TR-6 applies to the > TR-4 as well. > > Tony > > Richard's message if you missed it: > "Reversing the upper fulcrum from factory orientation pulls the > control arms in 1/4" and adds about 1.3 degrees negative camber > if I remember my calculations correctly. You can do it without > removing the control arms from the fulcrum. Just remove the four > bolts holding the fulcrum to the tower and the two bolts through > the ball joint and remove the whole assembly. Then hold the > fulcrum and spin the control arms 180 degrees then bolt the > whole assembly on the other side of the car. This keeps the > front control arm in the front but reverses the fulcrum. > > Preferred camber will depend on the tires. The Hoosier A6's > that I run for autocross and hillclimb want 3 degrees. They are > 225/45-15 on 7" rims. To get that much camber and to keep the > tires clear of my unmodified fenders I reversed the fulcrums and > then slotted the bolt holes to slide them in even further. I > just took the worn out tires off and the fronts wore fairly > even. The rears were also set at 3 degrees but wore more on the > inside from squatting under power. I backed it off to 2 degrees > to see how that works out. Also changed to a slightly stiffer > spring." > > At 11:22 PM 3/8/2013, Jon Gannaway wrote: > > I am preparing a 1964 tr4 to vintage race in California. I > am looking for > simple and easy ways to get negative camber in the car. > Any suggestions > would be helpful. > > Jon Gannaway > 831-402-4080 > > > Disclaimer: The information in this e-mail transmission, or > the documents > accompanying this e-mail transmission, may contain > confidential health > information that is legally protected by state and federal > law, including, but > not limited to the Health Insurance Portability and > Accountability Act of 1996 > and related regulations. This information is intended only > for the use of the > individual or entity to whom this e-mail transmission is > addressed. If you are > not the intended recipient of this information, or if you > are not properly > authorized to receive this information, you are hereby > notified that any > disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken in > reliance on the contents > of this e-mail or the attached documents is strictly > prohibited. If you have > received this information in error, please notify the sender > immediately by > sending a reply e-mail indicating that you have arranged for > the deletion of > this e-mail and a destruction of this e-mail and any > attached documents. > _______________________________________________ > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > > _______________________________________________ > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel@pobox.com > > _______________________________________________ > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 11 19:25:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E3BD42964 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:25:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 089714284C for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:04:00 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=eiJRm6rqGn8EJvXxHSdv4Q==:17 a=IYbAqjljJL4A:10 a=MragadPi9uwA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=n8i27M1mAAAA:8 a=ZNGn6RsNsgcA:10 a=ybZZDoGAAAAA:8 a=JAralIE_AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=zQSj9v82HRnsAo8oQKkA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=qIVjreYYsbEA:10 a=lSrWOBb19ohLDg9OBHgA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=-m-hxVJb3tTR3SM8:21 a=eiJRm6rqGn8EJvXxHSdv4Q==:117 Received: from [70.112.152.241] ([70.112.152.241:51389] helo=localhost) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 6C/64-06772-CF6EC315; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 20:03:08 +0000 Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 15:01:41 -0400 From: Bob Kramer To: cartravel@pobox.com, cregg.cowan@sri.com, fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Neg. camber on 1964 tr4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I had this mod done on my first TR4. The idea was from Graham Davies, a british car mechanic who used to have a shop here in Austin. He mocked it up on the car to get the desired camber, drilled holes and cut the tubes to fit and bolted it all together to a loose ball joint to spot weld. Once you round off the corners with a grinder it looks OEM. I'm about to embark in this mod on my son's car when I convert the suspension to TR6. Bob Kramer Sent from my Samsung Galaxy TabLarry Young wrote:Here is a photo of some upper A arms I did to give 2 degrees negative camber on my TR3 (now John Hasty's) - http://www.flickr.com/photos/53707928@N02 Cut off the end, drill new holes at the correct location.B The short piece of pipe supports the hole that is not on the flat part. This looks much nicer than cutting a piece out of the middle and welding them back together. From geometric calculations it takes about 0.174 inches to change the camber 1 degree.B I believe this agrees with the numbers that Richard Good had in his post. Larry On 3/10/2013 11:14 AM, Cregg Cowan wrote: > Yes, please do send or post photos. > Thank you! > > Cregg _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 11 19:25:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9563E42926 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:25:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f47.google.com (mail-pb0-f47.google.com [209.85.160.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2694284F for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 18:07:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pb0-f47.google.com with SMTP id rp2so3088593pbb.34 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 17:06:12 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=G/jgQdpKaRRHknRSnl3yFN2OSlp7HQ3rxUqG3zTAy1o=; b=rVY2vuTvV7IZqHdh0eiWRxycpikLNfBhd4/O78imlvrG7/AnZuWQx0hF62/nSEjmhm itLiAAZAVBSA1NJiO1zeywAntJm8YwGm/OKzas8DaN+eczhcGeJWFAPmFnCYjmXlh6kL m4OV80Uwfr0CnaM7OfZ/EZIMtIJnnr6kUcMPLgWfmajQUzn4Aoy1+plHEd50QJ+iED8R PBeD4O6yq7aHORRwdZGOsthQFp2vcbV05wxePZbyHFB84akbBKuChPJoPGCH6PcT9nvE uZ2nqhXL8HAhvHFyGg399nlLwnuDtHt94zKV8LiZKUKt2zxqeIHDttXkm3pZ/61estx6 jVmg== ku10mr23329236pbc.41.1362960372097; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 17:06:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.41] (udp235334uds.hawaiiantel.net. [72.234.40.38]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id rr14sm17543677pbb.34.2013.03.10.17.06.09 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 10 Mar 2013 17:06:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Babcock Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:06:07 -1000 References: <4A37CD413E64BE45A53C530F73023B8B2F7FBCDD@CSMC-EXMB02.calstar.corp><20130309191902.12BD640528@autox.team.net> <513CA9F5.8090209@pobox.com> <60FA7EC52AB144DB92066A6EDF0718CD@ComputerPC> To: "Stutzmans" Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Neg. camber on 1964 tr4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net According to the analysis I did with my suspension software (SuspPro) the most useful way to change camber on a TR3 is to move the upper arms inward and keep them the same length. I use the TR6 bits to get caster and cut the upper arms to add heim joints to make an adjustable arm, but the length is close to stock, just has the pivot moved inwards. If you shorten the upper A arms you wind up with a lot of camber at full bump. It's also pretty hard to get the bump steer out with shorter arms, the outer pivot point moves well inside the lower pivot. On Mar 10, 2013, at 12:35 PM, "Stutzmans" wrote: > Although the manual doesn't say so; I think that when they went to what would be the TR6 upper A arms and ball joint and 3 deg. trunnions (CT6345), the camber changed to 0 deg. from the TR3 and early TR4 2 deg. positive. > Bruce > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Young" > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:42 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Neg. camber on 1964 tr4 > > >> It seems like it would be difficult to get enough change in camber for a TR3/4 by reversing the fulcrum. The factory spec is +2 degrees, so it takes quite a lot to get to -2. Lowering helps a little, less than 1/2 degree. If you shorten the upper A arms as many of us have done, you have to remove at least 1/2 inch. I wrote a short report when I studied the suspension on my TR3 (see http://tildentechnologies.com/downloads/TRsuspension.PDF). There is a neat way to shorten the upper A arms that I discovered from Bob Kramer that does not involve cutting them in two. I can put up a photo if anyone is interested in it. The modification is not obvious for organizations that do not permit Heim joints, etc. >> Larry >> >> On 3/9/2013 1:14 PM, Tony Drews wrote: >>> What Richard Good just described for the TR-6 applies to the TR-4 as well. >>> >>> Tony >>> >>> Richard's message if you missed it: >>> "Reversing the upper fulcrum from factory orientation pulls the control arms in 1/4" and adds about 1.3 degrees negative camber if I remember my calculations correctly. You can do it without removing the control arms from the fulcrum. Just remove the four bolts holding the fulcrum to the tower and the two bolts through the ball joint and remove the whole assembly. Then hold the fulcrum and spin the control arms 180 degrees then bolt the whole assembly on the other side of the car. This keeps the front control arm in the front but reverses the fulcrum. >>> >>> Preferred camber will depend on the tires. The Hoosier A6's that I run for autocross and hillclimb want 3 degrees. They are 225/45-15 on 7" rims. To get that much camber and to keep the tires clear of my unmodified fenders I reversed the fulcrums and then slotted the bolt holes to slide them in even further. I just took the worn out tires off and the fronts wore fairly even. The rears were also set at 3 degrees but wore more on the inside from squatting under power. I backed it off to 2 degrees to see how that works out. Also changed to a slightly stiffer spring." >>> >>> At 11:22 PM 3/8/2013, Jon Gannaway wrote: >>>> I am preparing a 1964 tr4 to vintage race in California. I am looking for >>>> simple and easy ways to get negative camber in the car. Any suggestions >>>> would be helpful. >>>> >>>> Jon Gannaway >>>> 831-402-4080 >>>> >>>> >>>> Disclaimer: The information in this e-mail transmission, or the documents >>>> accompanying this e-mail transmission, may contain confidential health >>>> information that is legally protected by state and federal law, including, but >>>> not limited to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 >>>> and related regulations. This information is intended only for the use of the >>>> individual or entity to whom this e-mail transmission is addressed. If you are >>>> not the intended recipient of this information, or if you are not properly >>>> authorized to receive this information, you are hereby notified that any >>>> disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken in reliance on the contents >>>> of this e-mail or the attached documents is strictly prohibited. If you have >>>> received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately by >>>> sending a reply e-mail indicating that you have arranged for the deletion of >>>> this e-mail and a destruction of this e-mail and any attached documents. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel@pobox.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/stutzmans@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billb@bnj.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 11 19:43:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F8640E3B for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:43:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820C34052C for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:43:33 -0600 (MDT) a=cII0OxXpZpTrMvjuLP8Tjg==:17 a=wLYNZHckZ8oA:10 a=EQjhlmfX6V8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=2hKgoF7PXjEA:10 a=IpIx-DLnvFjbeNKYuM0A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=cprDEZlwulzibP-DbIoA:9 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=iWdl7sKGdpGY4wwc:21 a=cII0OxXpZpTrMvjuLP8Tjg==:117 Received: from [98.30.168.127] ([98.30.168.127:1836] helo=Bucktailus) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id CC/D4-01418-B088E315; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 01:42:35 +0000 From: "Robert Johns" To: "FOT team" Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 21:42:29 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Fw: Simplified Triumph History from Jeff Kelly Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net When the question came up recently of the connection between Triumph Motorcycles and Cars, I asked the judgment of a friend of ours, that strongly supports FOT. He is a member of VTR and TRA, and an expert and concurs judge on originally items on TR2s and TR3s. I think we should invite him to join us on the list. He will be a strong contributing member. Bob Johns ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Kelley To: Robert Johns Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 8:17 PM Subject: Simplified Triumph History A little late and very simple. There is some disagreement on the exact dates. 1984 Siegfried Bettmann arrives in London 1985 Bettmann becomes a salesman for the White Sewing Machine Co. 1986 Williams Andrews Co in Birmingham builds "Triumph" bicycles for Bettmann 1987 Bettmann with Mauritz Schulte starts building Triumph bicycles in Coventry 1895 Dunlop invests in Triumph 1903 Start production of motorcycles 1911 Bettmann helps Reginald Maudslay regain control of Standard Motor Co as chairman. 1913 Bettmann becomes Lord Mayor Coventry 1923 Start production of cars in Coventry 1931 Bicycle business is sold off mid-1930's Donald Healy provides technical know-how. 1936 Car production and Motorcycles split Bettmann comes out of retirement to manage the motorcycles. 1939 Triumph is bankrupt 1940 Triumph is bought by Thomas Ward Ltd. Nov 24, 1944 Standard Motor Co buys Triumph 1951 Bettmann dies _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 11 19:52:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A95403FA for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:52:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0BC403FA for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:52:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.74]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 99B363800005D; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 21:51:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-msc005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msc005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.209]) by mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 5407DE000081; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 21:51:51 -0400 (EDT) References: <84F65CEEECC34AD19E6E3B608E366583@Bucktailus> To: rjohns@woh.rr.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m130.sysops.aol.com (149.174.9.21) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 11 Mar 2013 21:51:50 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 21:51:51 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1363053111; bh=VUmb0kT7wq1yIqLkLQKkQMDiMX2xzUOq1Mfox9lDznA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qib+ZltyEQesrYU03v64atbob5ZKPUuLYgB2sNx2bXuRp4hc1KCwyE4NBoc+bkTFK W58OFfPGfsLGWZEg6wwHhJiilB6B4dzNk8xgvq6ZeZf6boW+n/VFyLh7v6/Fmls6zm gbbI+vgv4vpooQNLKw2cK1rI2PN10qgiXkZZhWYY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294a513e8a370a0c Subject: Re: [Fot] Simplified Triumph History from Jeff Kelly Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bring Jeff Kelly On! I see an asset here. Bob, you need to supply Jeff's email address to Mark Bradakis. We will be looking forward to seeing you both at the KASTNER CUP. We need to get the word out to TRA, as well..... Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Robert Johns To: FOT team Cc: Joe Alexander Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2013 8:42 pm Subject: Fw: Simplified Triumph History from Jeff Kelly When the question came up recently of the connection between Triumph Motorcycles and Cars, I asked the judgment of a friend of ours, that strongly supports FOT. He is a member of VTR and TRA, and an expert and concurs judge on originally items on TR2s and TR3s. I think we should invite him to join us on the list. He will be a strong contributing member. Bob Johns ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Kelley To: Robert Johns Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 8:17 PM Subject: Simplified Triumph History A little late and very simple. There is some disagreement on the exact dates. 1984 Siegfried Bettmann arrives in London 1985 Bettmann becomes a salesman for the White Sewing Machine Co. 1986 Williams Andrews Co in Birmingham builds "Triumph" bicycles for Bettmann 1987 Bettmann with Mauritz Schulte starts building Triumph bicycles in Coventry 1895 Dunlop invests in Triumph 1903 Start production of motorcycles 1911 Bettmann helps Reginald Maudslay regain control of Standard Motor Co as chairman. 1913 Bettmann becomes Lord Mayor Coventry 1923 Start production of cars in Coventry 1931 Bicycle business is sold off mid-1930's Donald Healy provides technical know-how. 1936 Car production and Motorcycles split Bettmann comes out of retirement to manage the motorcycles. 1939 Triumph is bankrupt 1940 Triumph is bought by Thomas Ward Ltd. Nov 24, 1944 Standard Motor Co buys Triumph 1951 Bettmann dies _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 11 20:53:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B15640554 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:53:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9244E40549 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:50:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851A0A142D for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:52:01 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:52:00 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <84F65CEEECC34AD19E6E3B608E366583@Bucktailus> <8CFECDB4C8FB20E-EE8-4BD29@webmail-m130.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Simplified Triumph History from Jeff Kelly Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe Alexander wrote: > Bring Jeff Kelly On! I see an asset here. > > Bob, you need to supply Jeff's email address to Mark Bradakis. > > Yes, please do. And I fixed some of the typos in the archived copy of the message. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 12 08:43:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5995C4040F for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 08:43:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.wcnet.org (mailhub.wcnet.org [64.31.64.4]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75880403F2 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 08:43:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from authmail.wcnet.org (authmail.wcnet.org [64.31.64.16]) by mail.wcnet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD891874FE2 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:42:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SnookPC (rrcs-98-102-104-227.central.biz.rr.com [98.102.104.227]) by authmail.wcnet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC39342059E for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:41:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jeff Snook" To: Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:41:47 -0400 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: Ac4fL7lnrGlIOscDT12vcCEdJaXNXA== Subject: [Fot] TR3 Sold at Gooding Auction for $55K! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net WOW, it looks really nice, but jeez! Auction madness? http://www.goodingco.com/car/1957-triumph-tr3-0 Gooding & Company Auction at Amelia Island this past weekend. Jeff Snook http://www.snooksdreamcars.com 419-344-0319 (Mobile) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 12 23:14:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C4B40449 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 23:14:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66DE54041B for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 23:14:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B15A145D for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 23:15:02 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 23:15:01 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Forums Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have fixed the problem with new registrations for the forums [ link below ] so those who are not already registered can sign up. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 13 10:07:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3734340449 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:07:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.wave1.net (unknown [74.219.105.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C1A44006E for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:07:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [74.219.99.56] by mail.wave1.net (ArGoSoft Mail Server .NET v.1.0.8.3) with ESMTP (EHLO mtmPC) for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:17:38 -0500 From: "Mike Moore" To: Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:06:24 -0400 Content-Language: en-us thread-index: Ac4gBLW8RxABgexFQeCmk5U/xrzcqQ== Subject: [Fot] TR4 Engine Spare Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Getting ready to start my 1st race season with my TR4 I bought from Gary Horstkorta in CA. He has a nice strong engine in it (10.5:1, Wiseco pistons, carillo rods, hardened crank, TS "F" cam) Looking for some advice on keeping a spare engine. Is it must to finish a season? Should I have one done for me? Should I have the head done and build block myself? How long would it take? I have a complete spare (hasn't run in a long time) Not looking for anything extreme, just a good strong unit. I have a lot to learn about racing and don't plan on pushing car real hard. I want to learn and get lots of track time this season. MONEY IS AN ISSUE!!! Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 13 11:57:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C0B40445 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:57:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail176c2.megamailservers.com (mail176c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E199640443 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:57:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) by mail176c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r2DHu7cC017517; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 13:56:13 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: "'Mike Moore'" , References: <008101ce2004$b61090a0$2231b1e0$@net> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 13:56:03 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4gBLW8RxABgexFQeCmk5U/xrzcqQADuRAw a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=9MVp1E--8wgvRlr6hLQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=5nmbGoeUrHwA:10 a=iOgyu-XeqMgA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=gjurqR4UQngzyZqZ:21 a=owvasKSa7CltDHB0:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Engine Spare Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mike: My experience says you ought to have a spare if you plan any long trips to race. I went all the way to Mosport from Charlotte only to have the motor pitch a rod in the 2nd practice session. I now have a fully prepared spare engine, but lucky for me havn't had to use it yet in over 1 1/2 yrs. However, if cost is a problem, forget it. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Moore Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 12:06 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] TR4 Engine Spare Getting ready to start my 1st race season with my TR4 I bought from Gary Horstkorta in CA. He has a nice strong engine in it (10.5:1, Wiseco pistons, carillo rods, hardened crank, TS "F" cam) Looking for some advice on keeping a spare engine. Is it must to finish a season? Should I have one done for me? Should I have the head done and build block myself? How long would it take? I have a complete spare (hasn't run in a long time) Not looking for anything extreme, just a good strong unit. I have a lot to learn about racing and don't plan on pushing car real hard. I want to learn and get lots of track time this season. MONEY IS AN ISSUE!!! Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 13 12:36:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4224069A for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:36:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f44.google.com (mail-oa0-f44.google.com [209.85.219.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC78B4256E for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:36:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id h1so1458965oag.3 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:35:02 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=hEGvb5Mqg6/CZGtCabqUPVg02wmQvAMJ9g0elWqJ+50=; b=KJETJWc7zi6HsyaiOdHCbcx6VP+kt+g9T3DJqHH07eosjjeo+9YzfmmMa2tMUzJJmj SDxKo3f3aUZ9sOLamAWnkfY5I00Pc/rFzOxYj6Yb7gUK2ThOVcVOllO6DfaZVZ1S/lfF FuWJHoSajFEKnAmCtzZtcC0ppR2zUwoxr6NJW3yT86LqK2RuOXHmhUMNw7x2gK5HEBsu O8t5l1lrpxNfsW5nNWp4EmqGDXvTHg1V+QKU7mM0hWvFT9CWsKBQXTC45XeAeLNR1I7/ CntjNBQZ99H0eTIwzORNpSYJ7xuDlbNOHJjULi83HpJpAsF+9ekuKKD9Ur4iCPelvRBN xRJg== ht3mr16534477obc.39.1363199702172; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.5] (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v3sm27469145oev.5.2013.03.13.11.34.58 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:34:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 13:34:56 -0500 References: <008101ce2004$b61090a0$2231b1e0$@net> To: Mike Moore , Triumph Friends of Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Engine Spare Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mike, Your engine's spec sounds identical to mine except that I have a Babe Erson 300 cam (I didn't look at the Tilden Cams chart yet how that compares to yours). I keep the rpm below 6200 most of the time and there are probably ten race weekends on the engine, with the only "failure" being that compression is not what it once was. That said, it's time for me to start getting my spare engine ready... Duncan Texas 1952 Morgan Plus 4 (TR4 engine) #6 red On Mar 13, 2013, at 11:06 AM, Mike Moore wrote: > Getting ready to start my 1st race season with my TR4 I bought from Gary > Horstkorta in CA. He has a nice strong engine in it (10.5:1, Wiseco pistons, > carillo rods, hardened crank, TS "F" cam) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 13 12:37:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22F542836 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:37:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D7F4044B for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:37:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 78DA61C000145; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:36:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-drc001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-drc001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.226.65]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 47EE1E000098; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:36:05 -0400 (EDT) References: <008101ce2004$b61090a0$2231b1e0$@net> To: mmoore@wave1.net, fot@autox.team.net From: malaboge@aol.com Received: from 76.102.23.82 by webmail-d295.sysops.aol.com (205.188.93.231) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:36:04 -0400 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:36:05 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1363199765; bh=7sqC1NVAtii+FTeWErM5HiLg2cp8T9rIkwqQPywnIqY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gv0SDP4S16IgO9+rEV2oppKQMuJzCzZ8aZv8N+OLm1twApXIngx0wFjNJ6YQfo5Yd 89t29TlWuPGhk18X9hvslF8BnpZ3OOPwF740mBAWg7XylofkIVt0d5epWgbcziwwpW S9Jt4jRDzoGhhkTaApn6x9u0AgKWpxrKXVzuf3Zk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c5140c7153d91 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Engine Spare Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mike, There is an interesting corollary that Ibve come to believein whole-heartedlyb&whatever spare you have with you will not be needed. Back in the day, other racers often commentedon the odd spares I brought with me to the track. ALL of those spares represented a problemthat had occurred during my racing career. Amazingly, I canbt recall everhaving to utilize 99% of those spares a second time although I helped many a TRracer with those uncommon spares. The look on their faces when I pulled thepiece they needed from the truck was worth the trouble! You will have manyissues yourself, and you can start your own pile-o-spares. With that in mind, no matter what level of experience youuse to build a spare motor, you will always have bthe good motorb and the bbackupbb&theybrenever the same, even with the same parts installed. So, I would have someone do a head for youand build the best bottom end you can. The time will come that you will have a tired/broken motor and anupcoming race that you really want to attendb&time for that bother motorbb&youbllbe glad you did. Of course you should do the engine build yourself, thatbsthe best feeling, going around the track on your own sweat and equity! Sweatin in Nor Cal Nick Good luck with Gary's old car, it will be missed here in Nor Cal...one less TR in the area. -----Original Message----- From: Mike Moore To: fot Sent: Wed, Mar 13, 2013 9:06 am Subject: [Fot] TR4 Engine Spare Getting ready to start my 1st race season with my TR4 I bought from Gary Horstkorta in CA. He has a nice strong engine in it (10.5:1, Wiseco pistons, carillo rods, hardened crank, TS "F" cam) Looking for some advice on keeping a spare engine. Is it must to finish a season? Should I have one done for me? Should I have the head done and build block myself? How long would it take? I have a complete spare (hasn't run in a long time) Not looking for anything extreme, just a good strong unit. I have a lot to learn about racing and don't plan on pushing car real hard. I want to learn and get lots of track time this season. MONEY IS AN ISSUE!!! Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 13 14:18:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7822B4044A for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:18:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mercury.fastbytes.com (mercury.fastbytes.com [216.183.230.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF99B403DE for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:09:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from TimDellVostro [216.183.226.236] by mercury.fastbytes.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.00) id AD7BB36011E; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 22:07:39 -0500 From: "Tim Murphy" To: "'Bill Babcock'" , "'Stutzmans'" References: <4A37CD413E64BE45A53C530F73023B8B2F7FBCDD@CSMC-EXMB02.calstar.corp><20130309191902.12BD640528@autox.team.net> <513CA9F5.8090209@pobox.com> <60FA7EC52AB144DB92066A6EDF0718CD@ComputerPC> <0B3196E9-37D4-4F37-B4F7-49F5C04031C6@bnj.com> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 22:07:31 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4ewHs1sJsr9r2AS+qtuxF5ub8p8AA1os7w Content-Language: en-us Organization: FastBytesWireless Inc. Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Neg. camber on 1964 tr4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bill, I'm not sure I follow the modification you did. You said you made adjustable upper A-arms with Heim joints, which I'm familiar with. But then you said the length is close to stock and the pivot moved inward. Do you mean the inner pivot rod on the frame or the outer ball joint pivot? And when others have done the modification of shortening the upper A-arms by cutting a section out and then re-welding the remaining pieces back together, they have reported having to shorten the A-arm by about 1/2 inch to get the - 3 degrees camber. Did you not have to shorten your Heim joint A-arms by about 1/2 inch also? Thanks. Tim -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Babcock Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 7:06 PM To: Stutzmans Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Neg. camber on 1964 tr4 According to the analysis I did with my suspension software (SuspPro) the most useful way to change camber on a TR3 is to move the upper arms inward and keep them the same length. I use the TR6 bits to get caster and cut the upper arms to add heim joints to make an adjustable arm, but the length is close to stock, just has the pivot moved inwards. If you shorten the upper A arms you wind up with a lot of camber at full bump. It's also pretty hard to get the bump steer out with shorter arms, the outer pivot point moves well inside the lower pivot. On Mar 10, 2013, at 12:35 PM, "Stutzmans" wrote: > Although the manual doesn't say so; I think that when they went to what would be the TR6 upper A arms and ball joint and 3 deg. trunnions (CT6345), the camber changed to 0 deg. from the TR3 and early TR4 2 deg. positive. > Bruce > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Young" > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:42 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Neg. camber on 1964 tr4 > > >> It seems like it would be difficult to get enough change in camber for a TR3/4 by reversing the fulcrum. The factory spec is +2 degrees, so it takes quite a lot to get to -2. Lowering helps a little, less than 1/2 degree. If you shorten the upper A arms as many of us have done, you have to remove at least 1/2 inch. I wrote a short report when I studied the suspension on my TR3 (see http://tildentechnologies.com/downloads/TRsuspension.PDF). There is a neat way to shorten the upper A arms that I discovered from Bob Kramer that does not involve cutting them in two. I can put up a photo if anyone is interested in it. The modification is not obvious for organizations that do not permit Heim joints, etc. >> Larry >> >> On 3/9/2013 1:14 PM, Tony Drews wrote: >>> What Richard Good just described for the TR-6 applies to the TR-4 as well. >>> >>> Tony >>> >>> Richard's message if you missed it: >>> "Reversing the upper fulcrum from factory orientation pulls the control arms in 1/4" and adds about 1.3 degrees negative camber if I remember my calculations correctly. You can do it without removing the control arms from the fulcrum. Just remove the four bolts holding the fulcrum to the tower and the two bolts through the ball joint and remove the whole assembly. Then hold the fulcrum and spin the control arms 180 degrees then bolt the whole assembly on the other side of the car. This keeps the front control arm in the front but reverses the fulcrum. >>> >>> Preferred camber will depend on the tires. The Hoosier A6's that I run for autocross and hillclimb want 3 degrees. They are 225/45-15 on 7" rims. To get that much camber and to keep the tires clear of my unmodified fenders I reversed the fulcrums and then slotted the bolt holes to slide them in even further. I just took the worn out tires off and the fronts wore fairly even. The rears were also set at 3 degrees but wore more on the inside from squatting under power. I backed it off to 2 degrees to see how that works out. Also changed to a slightly stiffer spring." >>> >>> At 11:22 PM 3/8/2013, Jon Gannaway wrote: >>>> I am preparing a 1964 tr4 to vintage race in California. I am looking for >>>> simple and easy ways to get negative camber in the car. Any suggestions >>>> would be helpful. >>>> >>>> Jon Gannaway >>>> 831-402-4080 >>>> >>>> >>>> Disclaimer: The information in this e-mail transmission, or the documents >>>> accompanying this e-mail transmission, may contain confidential health >>>> information that is legally protected by state and federal law, including, but >>>> not limited to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 >>>> and related regulations. This information is intended only for the use of the >>>> individual or entity to whom this e-mail transmission is addressed. If you are >>>> not the intended recipient of this information, or if you are not properly >>>> authorized to receive this information, you are hereby notified that any >>>> disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken in reliance on the contents >>>> of this e-mail or the attached documents is strictly prohibited. If you have >>>> received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately by >>>> sending a reply e-mail indicating that you have arranged for the deletion of >>>> this e-mail and a destruction of this e-mail and any attached documents. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel@pobox.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/stutzmans@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billb@bnj.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph@fastbytes.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 13 15:32:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73D140EC2 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 15:32:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm2-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm2-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.66]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0BE40427 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 15:32:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.195] by nm2.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Mar 2013 21:31:21 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.71] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Mar 2013 21:31:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp108.rog.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Mar 2013 21:31:21 -0000 s=s1024; t=1363210281; bh=G9bh364qvmHphTe2Eh+4uCqjHQ59bAvVSHcLEtm5A4A=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=0Og1kYIIxSo8vj3kAQHY2o0YVpK5Pbi7RpnDFVjfWXexBsyqmIDmYTcFpws0tTJB/jhB5pfIqswKJzUivDlxy59MLFOlMw3s9rHPUocriNOyGk0hud+OCtfCqUvSAZ0XBiDyg+BKgXauBJcADr2Yz8uSjqQwtUXbc1fbvXXyHCY= R7z9l_l9qmZciNmkMe.zvWcWLhTqeO8NbCuZx7vE115ijxdfVEoRD1jFfHOd VT22aD3E8thiFPmYgRS6mgAq2HD8LnHdBP5Bz_PBDPTukVMKkSdR_pQ6RtwA q11FRh2XCghZ_R4Ikq_e47JbEqcHC2ESrIX5f4u65MujsifLvw2Ofy5GBte1 VMh0rBYuZX_7jcfrSuToGGxwGGpIlN5PoidvvOnm7WRbjXbDMH47hoanx49K MPTEyBbaRUzN5_g10kCqlo_0pDiGMg4ZcCOIbnYax20Ydc3c_8dmWedU7mGd c4r_Ntmh.uya_z2MYQYbj8wgWuwzBMZzXlzgV45_WOpchEYIH_geJm8gNk4B wyoyEFKcb74uSbZfX6Sp1YpP1oXuxpNtATStRV4PL4HQS45l4.lPeCHoDs5s v_LQX6mnkUNMr.FkMAMRUqb0lV0520_fIiznV9EAQAGhL5tEnTAdj8rEgpZc BgRiEWiFw4gdx.LNLlwAd8LLNP6CvgXGe8Nzw95elKBlRb3WCUE_krBpXhwc - Received: from Laptop (macdonaldp@70.127.183.22 with login) by smtp108.rog.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Mar 2013 14:31:21 -0700 PDT From: To: "Fot" Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:31:17 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4gMdZ0bFuvyjA3TxW9Cwg7UGrpNw== Content-Language: en-ca Subject: [Fot] Triumph Movie Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2qrOg8COx8 &feature=player_detailpage I had never seen this one before, it is really good. I particularly liked the TR7 vs TR6 from the 15 minute mark to the end. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 13 17:58:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73939428A6 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:58:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E2044289E for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:58:34 -0600 (MDT) a=xuSzmQoJ1jvkAIfTlZRNrg==:17 a=bADDkjKAeCQA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=8z_VrJ8ezRoA:10 a=FHbRcELmHH9qlc8iG4AA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=pqar4LzaQytB6mCH9XUA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=xuSzmQoJ1jvkAIfTlZRNrg==:117 Received: from [70.114.170.59] ([70.114.170.59:49548] helo=BlakePC) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id D5/AE-01418-66211415; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 23:57:26 +0000 From: "Greg & Alison Blake" To: "'Triumph Friends of'" Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 18:57:27 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4gRoPh/+eomxSpSM2njRthxyDnLg== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] Air Fuel meter Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone using this AFM gauge? Any issues with leaded fuel as instructions say it will shorten sensor life? AEM Electronics Digital Wideband Air/Fuel UEGO Gauge Kits 30-4100 Thanks, Greg _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 14 02:27:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA79E4289F for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 02:27:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f44.google.com (mail-ee0-f44.google.com [74.125.83.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5E042883 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 02:26:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f44.google.com with SMTP id l10so866638eei.17 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 01:24:58 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=R8dfuHsZ9RnTqzDD41hqPWRnvJ1+9E2fXOiEGcyDOI8=; b=1GEwsDAWD6XjeH8vzt0ugEcOIpI0X0MRtxm3QetTDn5kCKp+UgSwrAIaJF4M49YMh4 J5eguEL/QTGw5zRcVvxxhKqbLiHDT2hSEzqS+lVS1u9pRPv/1M4Kl0DMErKVolGEJMHd tveXdb9LCyso47rnYhvc9EBX8rgZPNQTxigrTNZGDtAC+o8dkiwjdALryLF1SYpHrvti mFSLy2PWaccn1Wc6YPBVNM0qmRSrndFP5rP9Vg+3FoovwZ8BTVHunLuU+di4H/a0aotv 7FBoVkaLijDaGwvY9czULd9duhKi+C00GeG4da+1sHE7/rlHWpLwHNSbHdabF4yBl9O2 GgRA== h43mr4453861eeo.14.1363249498584; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 01:24:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([46.78.30.125]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t4sm2151179eel.0.2013.03.14.01.24.56 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 14 Mar 2013 01:24:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Triumph Friends of'" References: <000d01ce2046$84310e10$8c932a30$@rr.com> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:25:02 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac4gRoPh/+eomxSpSM2njRthxyDnLgARlmvw Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Air Fuel meter Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm using a Innovate System at my dasboard and have it also linked to my datalogger system so that I can see it in my videos. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-vdMBHNHdTaM/T3OKEvvi9sI/AAAAAAAABRw/4-vAe 94k8Sg/s983/DSC02630.JPG Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Greg & Alison Blake Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. Mdrz 2013 00:57 An: 'Triumph Friends of' Betreff: [Fot] Air Fuel meter Anyone using this AFM gauge? Any issues with leaded fuel as instructions say it will shorten sensor life? AEM Electronics Digital Wideband Air/Fuel UEGO Gauge Kits 30-4100 Thanks, Greg _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 14 09:37:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113F640444 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:37:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail201c2.megamailservers.com (mail201c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52FB3403A6 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:37:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) by mail201c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r2EFa45a026753; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:36:10 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: , "'Fot'" References: <004001ce2032$1ae32330$50a96990$@rogers.com> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:36:04 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4gMdZ0bFuvyjA3TxW9Cwg7UGrpNwAl7Nog a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=onhi19IbAAAA:8 a=V2j9MvmEAAAA:20 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=gSyNWzmk7zDd3LtQfk4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=Ma507JNFj8MA:10 a=Vv8HMP5pePhiGPpa:21 a=p50PFmi1fkFbb4GQ:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph Movie Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hope everyone recognized Road Atlanta and Laguna in their original configurations. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of macdonaldp@rogers.com Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 5:31 PM To: Fot Subject: [Fot] Triumph Movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2qrOg8COx8 &feature=player_detailpage I had never seen this one before, it is really good. I particularly liked the TR7 vs TR6 from the 15 minute mark to the end. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 14 09:46:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3E640547 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:46:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail168c2.megamailservers.com (mail168c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8CC14032C for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:46:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) by mail168c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r2EFjXHO021317 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:45:37 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: "'Fot'" Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:45:33 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4gKX8xaCiISasqRcqmjyvM5gUEMwAoWSAg a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=_VnqN573AAAA:8 a=wkMuEDboAAAA:8 a=6CnPYoQTRJjaA-BzZmQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=O2C99fW4opcA:10 a=7YYgER1cWLGHoYKZr08A:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=N15MJqJOWUFjDuUy:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: [Fot] FW: Watch and laugh Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I know this isn't about our passion, but it is funny as heck...... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. _____ From: Ron Meade [mailto:ronmeade@zoominternet.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 4:30 PM To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Subject: Fw: Watch and laugh Subject: Watch and laugh _____ http://www.pepsimax.com/TestDrive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 14 10:15:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D8804044C for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:15:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mailrtr02.ntelos.net (mailrtr02.ntelos.net [216.12.0.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F2E8403A0 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:15:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from webmail.ntelos.net (webmail.lumos.net [209.145.64.96]) by mailrtr02.ntelos.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id r2EGEJhi018116; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:14:20 GMT Received: from d-128-234-204.bootp.Virginia.EDU (d-128-234-204.bootp.Virginia.EDU [128.143.234.204]) by webmail.ntelos.net with HTTP (SquirrelMail authenticated user rjl6n@cstone.net); Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:14:20 -0400 References: <506D58250B62401DBF2CB167DA3EF9B9@gdhs.local> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:14:20 -0400 From: "R. John Lye" To: "john hasty" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 Cc: 'Fot' Subject: Re: [Fot] FW: Watch and laugh Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Candid Camera returns! Very funny, thanks. John On Thu, March 14, 2013 11:45 am, john hasty wrote: > I know this isn't about our passion, but it is funny as heck...... > > > John H. Hasty > Attorney At Law > Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. > 719 East Boulevard > Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 > Tele: (704) 372-5600 > Fax: (704) 372-4601 > E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com > www.gdhs.com > > PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) > is > intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information > that > is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. > If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the > message > and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. > > IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations > regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated > otherwise, > any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) > is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of > (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, > marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter > addressed herein. > > > > _____ > > From: Ron Meade [mailto:ronmeade@zoominternet.net] > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 4:30 PM > To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; > Subject: Fw: Watch and laugh > > > > Subject: Watch and laugh > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > http://www.pepsimax.com/TestDrive > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 14 10:21:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2E840EC2 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:21:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qe0-f50.google.com (mail-qe0-f50.google.com [209.85.128.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139E1403A6 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:21:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qe0-f50.google.com with SMTP id k5so1381889qej.9 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:19:58 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=5ZGWTYu32wiXp6BUV80Daj/8UeiZXZ4nGABj3/jW6b0=; b=r0uhMb+RC/VzrPsjf8oN83Me7c9180oywOfooQKmuXxq8jBWu9XruqLQ+Mza8Sebet dgbi+XA/zLPULPcCZ86hZqWtQK1FeOF4BI7UyRWFrQCuuVyDb6mKU1PH/WWb3uxYKOwO O3O4CxU9FXjQglWdUKiEIYWel3EV3R3Ka7UQYSiav9X1Gu7MZ8ZHvjyvOuhJZVa3PzKb 4/K2UrQsLrBJebXhJ7W8alpsPNK8fBYYEw8Cs/ZbTv7dYEmvuv04j6YwRXf4eVcSuQl3 LpkRFCWShvCrdBlTN+MBISs8ii6utN+O0RAlNlNQnu6qLUN84DBKyJdUyHebYdGGu3d8 vImg== m9mr3531287qam.25.1363277997941; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:19:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.59.108 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:19:57 -0700 (PDT) References: <004001ce2032$1ae32330$50a96990$@rogers.com> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:19:57 -0400 From: Robert Deanes To: macdonaldp@rogers.com Cc: Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph Movie Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I appreciate you sharing that...that was really good stuff ! On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 5:31 PM, wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2qrOg8COx8 > > &feature=player_detailpage > > > > I had never seen this one before, it is really good. I particularly liked > the TR7 vs TR6 from the 15 minute mark to the end. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 14 11:24:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D4F4051B for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:24:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B484240334 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:50:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id BQiy1l0040vp7WLA1TpeyT; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 15:49:38 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id BTpc1l00l2vctGa8RTpd4e; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 15:49:37 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "'john hasty'" , , "'Fot'" References: <004001ce2032$1ae32330$50a96990$@rogers.com> <2CB9189CA69A4B17B8F72F71EC32E89D@gdhs.local> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 08:49:36 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac4gMdZ0bFuvyjA3TxW9Cwg7UGrpNwAl7NogAABWxFA= Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1363276178; bh=rYt/XJU5x25K8reg4mZ2IoYXf+2JcABRHkdwrvlu0fc=; h=Received:Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Cgus41vNkyF4gy8kmRgv6fjxulhTO7zc2I7xq3BFYbBJASBP5wgA+xTd6ht0YjuSu YB314vLXRd1WSYbYx4Ry9wcwA3ufGyBKfBtrH9O8BtuIHT8cqh18bXdcWAeTj0jqCa mVWWqIC4YDBBhhrEX9tPW9DTNIDDp3sKH7nqS62F7YmOqRK4Hd0aRtQkyRkcZmrPo9 fcZrgqL8O5TYM0ZtD99odEfrXqkDSFqM8ZBfF1il3aBiy/WbOeUcTXE+s7dDnR0tvV P9/1I/4KUmUemN8npKXckQcfHTEkcfxwO5hPPS/aYvCSVr/MHzG3MYtTxf0AaDV5zh Khw9UxzTBQuGQ== Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph Movie Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks John...I(and quite a few FOT folks) raced the original Laguna Seca many times...THAT was fast!...With a huge 'pucker factor' in turns 2 and 3..It was changed to make it long enough for Grand Prix Motocycles. RB -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of john hasty Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 8:36 AM To: macdonaldp@rogers.com; 'Fot' Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph Movie Hope everyone recognized Road Atlanta and Laguna in their original configurations. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of macdonaldp@rogers.com Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 5:31 PM To: Fot Subject: [Fot] Triumph Movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2qrOg8COx8 &feature=player_detailpage I had never seen this one before, it is really good. I particularly liked the TR7 vs TR6 from the 15 minute mark to the end. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 14 11:25:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F393440426 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:25:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail168c2.megamailservers.com (mail168c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43BAB403A0 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:13:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) by mail168c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r2EGBvIn009401; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:12:03 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: , , "'Fot'" References: <004001ce2032$1ae32330$50a96990$@rogers.com> <2CB9189CA69A4B17B8F72F71EC32E89D@gdhs.local> <000601ce20cb$88458370$98d08a50$@net> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:11:57 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4gMdZ0bFuvyjA3TxW9Cwg7UGrpNwAl7NogAABWxFAAAOVDIA== a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=onhi19IbAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=V2j9MvmEAAAA:20 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=ahHXa4I7iEI14G9KGrYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=Ma507JNFj8MA:10 a=OLpUdpwutKn2eLCi:21 a=JX33snSj-rVskCMT:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph Movie Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Coming down the back straight at Road Atlanta without turns 10 & 10a with a fast swoop up under the bridge had the same effect. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. 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RB -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of john hasty Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 8:36 AM To: macdonaldp@rogers.com; 'Fot' Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph Movie Hope everyone recognized Road Atlanta and Laguna in their original configurations. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of macdonaldp@rogers.com Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 5:31 PM To: Fot Subject: [Fot] Triumph Movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2qrOg8COx8 &feature=player_detailpage I had never seen this one before, it is really good. I particularly liked the TR7 vs TR6 from the 15 minute mark to the end. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 14 13:21:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4AE40EC2 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:21:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.218.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E66B403C6 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:21:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.137.12.190] by nm10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Mar 2013 19:20:15 -0000 Received: from [98.137.0.70] by tm11.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Mar 2013 19:20:15 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp122-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Mar 2013 19:20:15 -0000 s=s1024; t=1363288815; bh=g5g+5yemC+3rZf0FrjfbqFvVJAMghQGF8A9nicugUMI=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=vv6bd+SCs46h3eGzD0csRUFqxKVfXRxlf2eM6NqKJfUX245zzO4QZd4WV2UzZdHK5e52QWO3fqXnlhgft7HuisHdcOhl1vslm/Vup2HGk0riXK8EB/YGTx0akSc/bjzS7/sAHfCyY1uulvHoWTVV2brjzZf25Qb2GTcTVDV61w8= mkd6FU6QmjqqBc4ZIC1pUF2SN.yGBUbhwPEkCduiKn3nHSVK0IqVis3tQ02E ElhnBDdxtgte3T4J7SZp4JvAaDJQ4ygPL.mZvvu8.MfbEO3h_aRfE0JlNhyP OQsHduMXAbBpjkd_xD8jwY_pFazSnGBHaoK46kcUkKdPayRPMpWRZ8rG4WkY MPHjoqZL7a7NSZRUsSb7OTde8Sq5kav1NIt8W6.G.aULkj4.LfNJaEGUTKvV DQwmxRGLttZI8D1fpoemtpM8ClTar5Na8EemGEqeHrnkIkNJl7Rm8vtTKM5W x05_EC1Qh9z2O89ZGJj3SnijUuGiSBOvhgEruyyn5SHeq6hppnFL0gb95KWg Qu23JBSw1xOnm7ffUtCVdHbXkfKK1Zcw56J6jdNVio53zfULptCt4C8dAiL0 U6jR29RZZ0HBftaffgVC4BYRYyLZGyVE84xcKAIDVYte0kcKHSjSNKynNJaW K3lcK0mPqnbyOU_wtho1QYW8- Received: from [10.110.180.64] (fasttrs@166.205.64.183 with xymcookie) by smtp122-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Mar 2013 19:20:15 +0000 UTC References: <000d01ce2046$84310e10$8c932a30$@rr.com> From: Mike Munson Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:20:10 -0500 To: Greg & Alison Blake Cc: Triumph Friends of Subject: Re: [Fot] Air Fuel meter/ Auto Meter Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Greg, I use an Auto Meter wide band gauge that has an output for D. A. I have not had any issues yet but have been told when the sensor gets dirty you can heat the tips up to glowing red with a torch to clean them. BTW, Fellow FOT member Mark Craig has saved a lot of us quite a bit of money on Auto Meter brand gauges. Mike Munson #28 EP TR6 On Mar 13, 2013, at 6:57 PM, "Greg & Alison Blake" wrote: > Anyone using this AFM gauge? Any issues with leaded fuel as instructions > say it will shorten sensor life? > > AEM Electronics Digital Wideband Air/Fuel UEGO Gauge Kits 30-4100 > > > > Thanks, > > > > Greg > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 15 12:35:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D60A4406AD for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:35:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f176.google.com (mail-ie0-f176.google.com [209.85.223.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F22E403E4 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:18:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f176.google.com with SMTP id k13so3418633iea.7 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:16:56 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:reply-to:x-priority:references :in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date :content-type:mime-version:x-gm-message-state; bh=B0unoToT/tdBafICAlcTrFgYY4BU+syvNTZF9xi2OII=; b=RkOROiFv2VxiFIiCqLZemu4vaZ3qDmHlAXjJ/du1K1XpgMSDoctRbMjCrdlcRn8g+T WS9Xoq2BU/n/IHdQtK7fwe8YaZazdnESu3hKE4ylWL42uRqhAidqlvPZMmgBtxiOq5wv OjvEf5SKWJQOzqwCU/G68Ybx+h9QEjNYycXephMSUpLdXYgA1qhOWpSydFPMjmWQF1X/ en1Oj0BppzQKLgd0kw/VVfvKEqtTAbEAiA11+LMpJFu1QwdeZOnn/RiVHuwVvZks1nZS QQmajviYY3QchvJAC9WqTVP8we6z227OQqtXU6EpY4hf/By4G4MVvUG6rzaUiBcbeaOq Etmg== o3mr21063727igd.63.1363288616492; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.188 (bda-74-82-80-128.bis6.us.blackberry.com. 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I can only image how awesome that downhill plunge was "back in the day" Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "john hasty" To: ; ; 'Fot' Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph Movie Coming down the back straight at Road Atlanta without turns 10 & 10a with a fast swoop up under the bridge had the same effect. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. 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RB -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of john hasty Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 8:36 AM To: macdonaldp@rogers.com; 'Fot' Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph Movie Hope everyone recognized Road Atlanta and Laguna in their original configurations. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of macdonaldp@rogers.com Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 5:31 PM To: Fot Subject: [Fot] Triumph Movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2qrOg8COx8 &feature=player_detailpage I had never seen this one before, it is really good. I particularly liked the TR7 vs TR6 from the 15 minute mark to the end. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 15 12:36:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B5140432 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:36:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173F0403B1 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:40:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vznit170060pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.3]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTP id <0MJO00GQU194KJF4@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:39:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 130.76.64.118 ([130.76.64.118]) by vznit170060 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:39:04 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:39:04 -0500 (CDT) From: koblinger@verizon.net To: rjl6n@cstone.net, jhhasty@gdhs.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] FW: Watch and laugh Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 15 20:30:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C08442B74 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 20:30:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f48.google.com (mail-qa0-f48.google.com [209.85.216.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04F542AF3 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 20:30:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id j8so668100qah.14 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 19:28:43 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date :message-id:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=Vzu9tukp36515IdTkxYK58atTnymDeUlRraTgVeBru4=; b=pPyEzpqHCw0KpAPcGYVpJCOuUY+M5vGhKnh5lrXnbhAQBArN37rOfghWDiu2rn+SQW 9IQUoKpwgbrCI+ImyElAOH6L+RWZgTQEJLR5sDNUqxMUfLWvw+jT7xJfPDpte1PPEwxg NdJcXvFVmQG0u99P41GUVLVZMh4DyuvEJ2g/9UA2af7KZ5V0e0bzNlpTsRM7+NV5ZWLN 3cTukqVaWxeY5ssoJYS35HljBMA9MsTkQ3qFung76HgVo4/5n1WPE9oco6QQaaIOsApG iQy9GMPBkNXsisS/b3C3s9t734GHAHoak1E1hdBT/sHmjyS542wxM+ZefUZCQa46qN23 Z44w== Fri, 15 Mar 2013 19:28:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.5] (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id az3sm7714155qeb.7.2013.03.15.19.28.42 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 15 Mar 2013 19:28:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 21:28:39 -0500 To: Triumph Friends of Subject: [Fot] NecksGen Safety Alert (head and neck restraint device) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A safety warning for anyone using a NecksGen head and neck restraint device! Check your hardware to be sure all twelve bolts, washers, and nuts are there and if it didn't come with thread locker on all of the bolts, remove all twelve bolts and use some blue Loc-Tite on the threads before reassembling. At my last race I sat on the grid warming up when I realized there was something seriously wrong with my NecksGen head and neck restraint. The tab that goes into the helmet was lying on the passenger seat so I raced without it. I later found that several pieces of hardware had simply come apart, including in the angle adjustment area, which I had tightened myself. However, there also appeared to be two missing bolts that attach the helmet straps to the main body of the device, but I could not find these pieces anywhere. I found a few bits of missing hardware on the floor in the Morgan. I asked a few others using the device to look at theirs and the one reply I got indicated that his looked just like mine -- but it turned out he simply hadn't pulled hard enough on the straps yet to have them pull out as mine did -- he was missing the same two critical bolts that connect the two halves of the unit together and clamp the helmet strap anchor in place. NecksGen has told at least one other customer that they will send out replacement hardware for free, and Farin Brady told me they would refund my purchase of a hardware replacement set (I had bought a full set of replacement hardware since I really didn't yet know what I was missing nor that there was essentially a defect in the product, ie: it was not my fault). The diagram that came with the device wasn't of any help in determining where the various pieces of hardware go, nor was a similar diagram on their website. I spoke to Jeff to get the layout correct. The replacement bolts have a dab of thread locking compound already on them. Jeff explained that their testing did not uncover this problem and they were unaware of it until the first hundred or so devices were out the door and they started getting feedback from customers. They didn't anticipate the degree of vibration encountered by users of the device. No mention of why I hadn't been contacted as soon as they knew of the problem, but since I purchased this through a group buy, they may not have had my name and contact information on file. The design requires spring washers to be put under the heads of the bolts rather than under the nuts, which are countersunk stepped round barrel nuts, and that the main large pieces of the device which the bolts pass through are made of a composite material, which may have some "give" to it, allowing the stainless hardware to loosen under vibration. If the bolts that pass through both pieces of the device and the helmet anchor strap fitting are missing as mine were, replacement ones should be pushed in from the outboard side with a spring washer under the head, through a "side bushing" that fits inside the large hole in the anchor tab of the helmet strap, with the stepped barrel nut on the inboard side. The side bushing is also stepped and the narrower part points outboard (OK, wait, I'm not absolutely sure about that any more -- but it may only go one way). Duncan Charlton Texas 1953 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 16 10:53:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99BAC4006C for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2013 10:53:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa08-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa08-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45EF243152 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2013 10:53:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from new-host-2.home ([108.16.249.182]) by p3plsmtpa08-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id CGsG1l0033wrvZ001GsGr8; Sat, 16 Mar 2013 09:52:16 -0700 From: Scott Janzen Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 12:52:17 -0400 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Valve Spring locator - GT6 or Spit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm re-assembling my cylinder head, and one of the valve spring locators (at the use of the spring, around the guide) is broken. It's the typical "T" in section, black oxide, but I can't find any through Crane, Isky, Comp or Edelbrock that are small enough. 0.51 ID, 0.61 spring ID, about 1.02" OD, 0.05" thick. Any ideas on sources - I have no idea where these came from - probably on the car when I got them, but they are perfect for the Isky springs. Thanks! _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 16 13:28:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B148A4315C for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:28:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail1.bemta7.messagelabs.com (mail1.bemta7.messagelabs.com [216.82.254.104]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64CEC4041C; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:20:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.82.254.19:7656] by server-8.bemta-7.messagelabs.com id 97/0A-09144-22473415; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 19:18:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 11663 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2013 19:18:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chis0225.am.amersports.int) (198.184.220.8) by server-7.tower-96.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 15 Mar 2013 19:18:57 -0000 Received: from chis0225.am.amersports.int ([10.4.34.225]) by chis0225.am.amersports.int ([10.4.34.225]) with mapi; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:18:57 -0500 From: "Reed, John" To: jason ostrowski , john hasty , "fot-bounces@autox.team.net" , "budscars@comcast.net" , "macdonaldp@rogers.com" , 'Friends of Triumph' Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:18:55 -0500 Thread-Topic: [Fot] Triumph Movie Thread-Index: Ac4hq7Zfo+EwqxNuSNW+Ig9qO+hxKQABjkJb Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph Movie Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I was at that race when PLN won the championship. The race fans loved it. As did I. Those were special days with factory cars and pro drivers. And all these years later we are still racing these cars. It was a huge influence on me. On 3/14/13 2:16 PM, "jason ostrowski" wrote: "The Gravity Cavity"... lots of national championships won and lost there. Too bad it is no more. I can only image how awesome that downhill plunge was "back in the day" Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "john hasty" To: ; ; 'Fot' Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph Movie Coming down the back straight at Road Atlanta without turns 10 & 10a with a fast swoop up under the bridge had the same effect. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. 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RB -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of john hasty Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 8:36 AM To: macdonaldp@rogers.com; 'Fot' Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph Movie Hope everyone recognized Road Atlanta and Laguna in their original configurations. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. 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[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image.png] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 16 13:29:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096464315E for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:29:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail175c2.megamailservers.com (mail175c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F3140397; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:18:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.228.36.182] (142.sub-174-228-65.myvzw.com [174.228.65.142]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail175c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r2FLGjYL020077 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:16:48 -0400 References: <1087727756.482911.1363374494143.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> From: John Hasty Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:16:43 -0400 To: "toodamnfunky@comcast.net" a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=HQl7EaMA2Gc8/G9njrY/NQ==:17 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=b4TgfONAAAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=onhi19IbAAAA:8 a=V2j9MvmEAAAA:20 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=LvWaAmm4e0UPfxEdb-QA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=kp3uRgNowesA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=Ma507JNFj8MA:10 a=t8UccRjhhSUcRAgn:21 a=E_NWe86hxhiV8jAU:21 a=z95mz2hiKJRfel-h6ysA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=8Zrwi-AdhV5b14pR:21 a=HQl7EaMA2Gc8/G9njrY/NQ==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot-bounces@autox.team.net" , Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph Movie Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I ran the old Road Atlanta on a 350cc Yamaha. 12500 as you crested the hill at the end of back straight, fall into GC at about 13000. And hope you could lean over far enough to not hit the rumble strips between the track and pit in as you came under the bridge. Ah to be young and fearless again! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 15, 2013, at 3:08 PM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: > Gravity Cavity...the pucker factor number goes up exponentially with the increase in negative G's as does > > the volume of sceaming in my helmet. > > jim g > > > From: jason@multivintage.com > To: "john hasty" , fot-bounces@autox.team.net, budscars@comcast.net, macdonaldp@rogers.com, "Fot" > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 1:16:53 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph Movie > > "The Gravity Cavity"... lots of national championships won and lost there. Too bad it is no more. I can only image how awesome that downhill plunge was "back in the day" > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: "john hasty" > Sender: fot-bounces@autox.team.netDate: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:11:57 > To: ; ; 'Fot' > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph Movie > > Coming down the back straight at Road Atlanta without turns 10 & 10a with a > fast swoop up under the bridge had the same effect. > > > John H. Hasty > Attorney At Law > Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. > 719 East Boulevard > Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 > Tele: (704) 372-5600 > Fax: (704) 372-4601 > E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com > www.gdhs.com > > PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is > intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that > is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. > If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message > and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. > > IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations > regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, > any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) > is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of > (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, > marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter > addressed herein. > -----Original Message----- > From: RACER BUD [mailto:budscars@comcast.net] > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:50 AM > To: 'john hasty'; macdonaldp@rogers.com; 'Fot' > Subject: RE: [Fot] Triumph Movie > > Thanks John...I(and quite a few FOT folks) raced the original Laguna Seca > many times...THAT was fast!...With a huge 'pucker factor' in turns 2 and > 3..It was changed to make it long enough for Grand Prix Motocycles. > RB > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of john hasty > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 8:36 AM > To: macdonaldp@rogers.com; 'Fot' > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph Movie > > Hope everyone recognized Road Atlanta and Laguna in their original > configurations. > > > John H. Hasty > Attorney At Law > Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. > 719 East Boulevard > Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 > Tele: (704) 372-5600 > Fax: (704) 372-4601 > E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com > www.gdhs.com > > PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is > intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that > is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. > If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message > and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. > > IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations > regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, > any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) > is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of > (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, > marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter > addressed herein. > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of macdonaldp@rogers.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 5:31 PM > To: Fot > Subject: [Fot] Triumph Movie > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2qrOg8COx8 > > &feature=player_detailpage > > > > I had never seen this one before, it is really good. I particularly liked > the TR7 vs TR6 from the 15 minute mark to the end. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 16 18:24:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B084431E6 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2013 18:24:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com (outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com [64.136.47.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6DAA042E90 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2013 18:24:08 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1363479765; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=iZjXLgkw1uYGKFoGhLjo9cwGrFvvc6oLfu81qC7wQ+29mHvAzMngGNzeGozpi0kyF KLVGlDhtzB+GWF70KW0rXf11cVRLVT2n3RQN35Kh4GIMwLanScGLUIsOFy87i/HWyd 2Zjgau2khBRT+AqGjDsRHp+J6rZmGQc12hRWIsno= Received: from outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com (webmail04.dca.untd.com [10.171.12.144]) by smtpout03.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABJWLDGNAS3A692 for (sender ); Sat, 16 Mar 2013 17:22:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [76.23.185.62] by webmail04.dca.untd.com with HTTP: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:21:10 GMT From: "Joe Boruch" Full-Name: "Joe Boruch" Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 00:21:10 GMT To: Janzen@REcatalyst.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Valve Spring locator - GT6 or Spit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net When I needed some for my TR3 I bought some that had the correct inner diameters and then I machined the outer diameter to fit the head. You may want to try your local machine shop to see of they have something that will fit. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Scott Janzen To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Valve Spring locator - GT6 or Spit Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 12:52:17 -0400 I'm re-assembling my cylinder head, and one of the valve spring locators (at the use of the spring, around the guide) is broken. It's the typical "T" in section, black oxide, but I can't find any through Crane, Isky, Comp or Edelbrock that are small enough. 0.51 ID, 0.61 spring ID, about 1.02" OD, 0.05" thick. Any ideas on sources - I have no idea where these came from - probably on the car when I got them, but they are perfect for the Isky springs. Thanks! _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net ____________________________________________________________ 5 Diet Pills that Work 2012's Top 5 Weight Loss Pills. Updated Consumer Ratings. Free Report. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/51450cccd697eccc563est03duc _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 17 05:14:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDEC42E8F for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 05:14:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.184]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B86942E80 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 05:14:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from geoffPC (c220-239-97-219.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.97.219]) (authenticated sender gkbyrne) by mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r2HBCoG9006981 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:12:51 +1100 From: "geoff byrne" To: "Friends of Triumph" Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:12:49 +1100 Thread-Index: Ac4i/7l/Qd4LSBbeQEWTid82Vp7jsg== Content-Language: en-au a=p370pnl1hucA:10 a=b_8eTLc7FFeVwKXrSqoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=4bSI-bD6k48jn_6rGwwA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=n/CIiUKuP8r6VOFQHWj+kw==:117 Subject: [Fot] TR3 Cam Failure Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici I have been helping a friend with his TR3 race motor and we keep braking cam shafts . recently the cam broke between 1 and 2 cylinders while holding 5000 rpm through a sweeper. Comments seem to indicate that the 4 cylinder motor is prone to breaking cams and a steel billet is required . I would appreciate any comments on a similar experience and solution Geoff Byrne TR6 Racer Down Under _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 17 13:05:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A120A42B87 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 13:05:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f53.google.com (mail-la0-f53.google.com [209.85.215.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD1B4293E for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 13:05:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f53.google.com with SMTP id fr10so5273758lab.40 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 12:03:39 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=4UdSEQNQV5FPUHHiJTVaJUoZjC7E+a/Oy5Z2niDwWZI=; b=lwMDy3JyB+rDxRVxJH7Keggu8OTkDLANPVataOB53EcIcpIFRcEuG6pEpBrkwhM+8X peD6qCwgLV7Z1HDQ4Lq+8a47GjjGwPgLLXNNyGUEGCmZFGJBXb7EaiTPnOCyVsp+yhRp VFyxivGzGN9cJpmuOuMS+PppK55gcs/wVh7efbCCrwbxa8BmbBhT3FCb8c3KrGPtTTKw X430+/UFPDsYKSHvd1h5E4RHynI1GHzAwJV+/xTPdmwEp/3CZ/Fz1nbYH5cBoYqOCLTg ieX9z8jJd5MpwjOii2xcw4rPaIJXgCNwGar7tZ/z9SdZ4bIUsGxvFcIHSyvy0ftxlTB7 QIWQ== w9mr5249875lbn.2.1363547019517; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 12:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.33.48 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 12:02:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Kas Kastner Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 12:02:59 -0700 To: fot Subject: [Fot] F-1 adverts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Just as a point of interest in the Mercedes commercials in the F-1 race the cars and a bit of track are inserted into the background of our track in Califonia, Willow Springs. 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This car is beautiful, and comes with some really cool documentation. Runs and drives beautifully. It won't last long on Ebay... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=111034010164 Shawn Frank Continued Legacy-owner Drive Away Cancer Iowa 515-339-4228 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 17 16:57:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 754B242832 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 16:57:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm31-vm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm31-vm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B650F4257F for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 16:57:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.54] by nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Mar 2013 22:55:54 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.197] by tm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Mar 2013 22:55:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1055.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Mar 2013 22:55:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 97374 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Mar 2013 22:55:54 -0000 s=s1024; t=1363560954; bh=L+nw+LFYCKuP6Dvdv9/0n3ckwp4mo4WLzpeN1mAMlmQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HT0F7TAB/qmXMt4FKrSDIIt0HIpUwyzfYxDLbRgYhZNn9dGpdxvOZ0ip4mz9ze1QaTi5Pm7TBFJUTYsFL6k/s+VQmMuSYk+HXHPSSu03JoiJ96331LJeIxz7r/V+WXRXEcmoAnsxVkBCIQ9bBDaOTeb/fQqnhARv5omnJECi29U= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mXfCqMBel60fqClJR6n3X5F4nNrDGa7KQkrVkHodaFpFZ1uYSlekhB1Z3Y3s0eNbdLcgDqq80woI4pcbTdz1D9kfOHs8BUmFklcHlPO6Qc8jypwoRtAPwc06akuZ5n8H/px2Y3URXuw6rTdR06+137mKJbehXnHB3waqCvmqDeQ=; mTAKWvVqg7c5dvejX42mBEkyL.orIQBhrxv_n.xnIJ4hmdVQvA_9o71534l7 v2AXLdO8McfPQhuP1HlnjNVcszjdH0IJhiTHvK0l10AtlmiKx.OX1jGvzfTU gsfqcFKQ0dZajFw1LbOig7Jne0m_aqe2KOOQnmoqAIYpex0afMN5nmuD72HZ Z1PgWHeWDowh.FCPzZab1KgaYfgnI3ciVp9IAuNEnEsa9K4LA9mXAbqQQWfp kpKaB69xPccdg4bOM9hDvxfMcJ4R6RQEtk6rb_cE5_pveVsC2VediybIIBiz EE1OWYxqY_zoabxWLTCJdKTSXkl.EzEhU1g6F684sM7B_OTjHtiyVoFXoxy5 ZMVy6okSM4PgK1d0orl2Gj5hSQBWVqeSBq18jymiViz3zcDHuepAf2cqq1s6 _8A3Fk.OJCXaZDya0Qmr5xvdPSys81tsr5sOyCyLQHSwp2FsZmgxF3b20BWd An6zLgoOwxhURmo5gNpJ24VrvLD3aWEBnN6lfTRzuaXIdtmaMeACEBxWH9aO nZxKkXPMvTsPp8uVf8IWiNIuGsTyP7Eb3kMyq2NCqUoUp6eXhSATS3ZTTlMV kr5F3nxFP.QOGB4ZAj.YN6aNIFLVdAuZnfhil8f4UBMrChEKub7leyQ-- Received: from [97.125.188.44] by web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 15:55:54 PDT SSB3YW50ZWQgdG8gc2hhcmUgYSBsaW5rIHdpdGggeW91IGFsbCBvZiBteSBGYWNlYm9vayBwaG90byBhbGJ1bSBvZiB0aGUgYnVpbGQgb24gdGhlIERyaXZlIEF3YXkgQ2FuY2VyIElvd2EgY2FyLiBXZSBoYWQgYSBncmVhdCBTYXR1cmRheSBwdXR0aW5nIHNvbWUgbmV3IHBhcnRzIG9uIHRoaXMgb2ZmaWNpYWwgRHJpdmUgQXdheSBDYW5jZXIgSW93YSAxOTY1IFRyaXVtcGggVFI0QSBuYW1lZCAiSm9obiIuIFdlIHdpbGwgaGF2ZSB0aGlzIGNhciBhdCB0aGUgdXBjb21pbmcgS2FzdG5lciBDdXAuIEtlZXAgZW0BMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 15:55:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Shawn Frank To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Drive Away Cancer Iowa TR4A build progress Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I wanted to share a link with you all of my Facebook photo album of the build on the Drive Away Cancer Iowa car. We had a great Saturday putting some new parts on this official Drive Away Cancer Iowa 1965 Triumph TR4A named "John". We will have this car at the upcoming Kastner Cup. Keep em on the road...and track... https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.560821733950668.1073741825.431473933552116&type=1 Shawn Frank Continued Legacy-owner Drive Away Cancer Iowa #515-339-4228 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 17 22:48:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7837142832 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:48:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8BE1403DE for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:48:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B741F1C0000A2; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:46:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dlc002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dlc002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.182.69]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 908CEE000086; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:46:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Catpusher@aol.com Full-name: Catpusher Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:46:35 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1363581995; bh=cXtYKTFz4JFBxBXM1a45Ql9pJGtnsI5K9G0JMBTFQWI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NwLM1fOhF1ie0ytq5obwnOBltJxYzD+ji/kBUZPob2vMLNk1V8kNWHy2wJzbKzrIq gMqlA/361xDCJlgLConZDre4Q1iBAYzUsUZ3mN+sK9uhc0dmtFIvny0bKxXeaV44b2 1RMB/8zlUqrN/tuZy3kVp9SS0gznDvqxODJm969s= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d51469c2b4513 Subject: Re: [Fot] Subject: TR3 Cam Failure Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If the camshaft shaft diameter is reduced during re grinding, that(between #1 and #2) is where it is most likely to fail. If you are unlucky, it will also fail in front of the #2 cam journal, and the cam piece will fall down and trash the motor. The USA factory race cams were ground from cams that arrived in the USA with un ground lobes, and KAS had them ground. I have had the lobes of a standard cam (TR4A is best) welded before regrinding, and that worked. In the development of the TR2 they arrived at the two shank diameters in each camshaft to reduce failures. I also strongly recommend checking all possible related issues: from coil bind to the dist/oil pump gear and the cam bearings. TR Regards, Hardy In a message dated 3/17/2013 11:02:59 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, fot-request@autox.team.net writes: Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:12:49 +1100 From: "geoff byrne" To: "Friends of Triumph" Subject: [Fot] TR3 Cam Failure Amici I have been helping a friend with his TR3 race motor and we keep braking cam shafts . recently the cam broke between 1 and 2 cylinders while holding 5000 rpm through a sweeper. Comments seem to indicate that the 4 cylinder motor is prone to breaking cams and a steel billet is required . I would appreciate any comments on a similar experience and solution Geoff Byrne TR6 Racer Down Under _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 18 09:13:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D3342499 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:13:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1FB140527 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:12:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id CzBG1l0060SCNGk513BVbX; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:11:29 +0000 Received: from ComputerPC ([71.60.181.57]) by omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id D3BV1l0181EiJYf3V3BVvN; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:11:29 +0000 From: "Stutzmans" To: "geoff byrne" , "Friends of Triumph" References: <001801ce2300$5e5230e0$1af692a0$@optushome.com.au> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 11:11:32 -0400 s=q20121106; t=1363619489; bh=1cCer6M8d4N6v7kSRY8r1pw0ehpvzo3KzI1MPD7SnvA=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=E1HBUeMzllVW/97DJa8JdCMgyZC6Zvi/UpFx+UWyjkHTNpQcZ38bIy+5aZZwfNYOC /jrBvWjTsGvIf64b0nRHr8aB2DKS1NJ5w4wSUKZFZerFtq64OUUorhW5ZWLXcShIy/ sOrtUBpR2jTkohQG2InBL+uk0HY1cLNhhVOTKlBEhxm1fKAyFS0Xw6OhUcRJX+JsOI w6X+LQXGbIJWPMi4zX62BbXpTVg8jqdT9n8Pa/6QnFxY6ioSNsbdMYcktolhLnb+dM luAqjxw0hDqOhbdxHvtdTaijj5UDin4wZ63gjethcU6WIpEKLWRM6ByUT2GM9Uy8VT luk8oup2FcASA== Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 Cam Failure Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net As time goes by we tend to forget some of the old lessons. Except Hardy who is right on. TR3/4 cams were designed by the factory with the diameter of the front half larger than the back half. This stopped the problem of cam deflection. When cam grinders regrind these cams they have to remove some of this increased thickness or the new lobe heels would be below the shaft. Could deflection return on these cams? New blanks - I recently bought and installed a 270 from BPNW ground on a new blank by David Newman in England. This new blank, presumably from India, did not have the factory increased diameter front half. Could deflaction be a problem? Because of stories that the dizzy gear on new Indian made blanks was not cut properly causing dizzy shafts to break, I test installed mine with die makers blue and it was ok. Could deflection have been the problem? Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "geoff byrne" To: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 7:12 AM Subject: [Fot] TR3 Cam Failure > Amici > > I have been helping a friend with his TR3 race motor and we keep braking > cam > shafts . recently the cam broke between 1 and 2 cylinders while holding > 5000 > rpm through a sweeper. Comments seem to indicate that the 4 cylinder motor > is prone to breaking cams and a steel billet is required . I would > appreciate any comments on a similar experience and solution > > Geoff Byrne > > TR6 Racer Down Under > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/stutzmans@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 18 10:48:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A06D542458 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:48:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm9.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm9.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.210]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB4840E44 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:48:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.192] by nm9.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2013 16:46:33 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.51] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2013 16:46:33 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp104.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2013 16:46:33 -0000 3i1Xrm3Gxnuzt9u9GjhNthAPF.1mui7andnCxvC6H2moF_xPNUB6Wb3Vx.eg _6j2wVtSA_9EBp6zCLSQpv67pFFLmWqy5IQ5n6wMRs4xK6JerRiwOaszMJtq N0OfVBp_RZE5Dq1M8n58P2vvwamzEdARV0bB55LwT3JmEBjXC3NWNZ647SnU NJIp.mElsthbWJz1UGxcIC6fkzady9R0wRMB1UXuFnN.S8u_RclAaXho_ozK EzBifBnN6Fo7tDMl22olY_3o4OqwA9UqFUxc9gbdnZjPQ2SHO8qEBWfjTWVV 6TdeOh_mZT1xfuUQq3ejBsjtke7DZY0mXnWNp2Q76GD0_ucaIcCc17axqN3H 2CHjidKb73i7hssI_7MBqk3SBLZaUQpKR4lv7EzzDDnJ2VVgwCJpvXnbUZgO RDRSKSuWxm8mQ1YsXvFHV.hH0JB2Pd9JTiNYR.Mi71Fwd44nqMGY2RFuNbOW OuX_Xh1ZRLUv5.l6ENANamddNZoGD0w-- Received: from [192.168.1.77] (cartravel@99.98.58.190 with plain) by smtp104.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Mar 2013 09:46:32 -0700 PDT Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 11:46:35 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 To: FOT@autox.team.net References: <001801ce2300$5e5230e0$1af692a0$@optushome.com.au> <9EA57CC6D2EA4E96BB0705550AD14E4E@ComputerPC> <514740E1.0@pobox.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 Cam Failure Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net With the new blanks there is no need to grind off the large front diameter unless the lift is really huge (>0.38). The rough lobes extend about 1/8 inch beyond the bearing radius. Since the front four lobes don't have to slide through the bearings, why grind off this extra material? Everyone seems to do this, but they don't need to. I had my cams ground only until the front lobes cleaned up. The only one that ever broke was by a Neanderthal Fedex man. > > On 3/18/2013 10:11 AM, Stutzmans wrote: >> As time goes by we tend to forget some of the old lessons. Except >> Hardy who is right on. >> TR3/4 cams were designed by the factory with the diameter of the >> front half larger than the back half. This stopped the problem of >> cam deflection. >> When cam grinders regrind these cams they have to remove some of this >> increased thickness or the new lobe heels would be below the shaft. >> Could deflection return on these cams? >> New blanks - I recently bought and installed a 270 from BPNW ground >> on a new blank by David Newman in England. This new blank, >> presumably from India, did not have the factory increased diameter >> front half. Could deflaction be a problem? >> Because of stories that the dizzy gear on new Indian made blanks was >> not cut properly causing dizzy shafts to break, I test installed mine >> with die makers blue and it was ok. Could deflection have been the >> problem? >> Bruce >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "geoff byrne" >> >> To: "Friends of Triumph" >> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 7:12 AM >> Subject: [Fot] TR3 Cam Failure >> >> >>> Amici >>> >>> I have been helping a friend with his TR3 race motor and we keep >>> braking cam >>> shafts . recently the cam broke between 1 and 2 cylinders while >>> holding 5000 >>> rpm through a sweeper. Comments seem to indicate that the 4 cylinder >>> motor >>> is prone to breaking cams and a steel billet is required . I would >>> appreciate any comments on a similar experience and solution >>> >>> Geoff Byrne >>> >>> TR6 Racer Down Under >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/stutzmans@comcast.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel@pobox.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 18 11:17:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCDC5424C2 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 11:17:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm21.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm21.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C0CC42278 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 11:04:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.105] by nm21.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2013 17:03:06 -0000 Received: from [67.195.15.61] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2013 17:03:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp102.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2013 17:03:06 -0000 qKQa4W5azDzAW7goEcs05xdr0KIHtovVSaeP9w0AO63RM8I6kUmjfaIkiq2C 6O4OXxScJQDaLj0jQ3zgYCQFJcJwmDWbp6ErI418rYWzuIOyRKtgzSx3hvII h8IaOZug.4jDF6kgLe7QzoF9R_qyZvYMYLeFndCMT5HB8MVvSpJyqgIKj3jH Jv8F6S6OwWnsbDRmb68Wpnk0InoWQURcLGpsLUEhxxMaIhbFe0bgADo7anUB s2IP7wYG0NlvW0kglI7n52KdshTFWUHof2na2pj3icW53MATqgTGOuz4IP3k 5NKsPCt..cG.KMavguzMVSCmVZ1Cp5obXYzIUIs1dypgPHhIdTcIeuAHbx7y agPirrV1IMyGYHgR34.Bsr353r7cqIspnZ8I9MbLjeYZZu7ORtG0DhUDHN8J ivUza1IMNbdZIgK0nGwinCyrri79I.HA.qYLtPalzIfC.NNviCk6D9nw3kqa WjTfmaE_TCEIYDrRcTLKuRr19tIRxEuZZj8NBAo8GB7gYLMzJ5aE9mBUuw.K XZVWQ.qK2dGw95S4REGRwRkBh Received: from [192.168.1.77] (cartravel@99.98.58.190 with plain) by smtp102.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Mar 2013 10:03:06 -0700 PDT Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:03:08 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <96b.588233a5.3e77f62b@aol.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Subject: TR3 Cam Failure Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The article that mentions the reason for enlarging the front part of the cam sites deflection as the primary issue they were trying to solve. Deflection leads to tossing valves, valves bouncing off the seat, etc. Making it larger up front helps both problems, strengths and flexibility. On 3/17/2013 11:46 PM, Catpusher@aol.com wrote: > If the camshaft shaft diameter is reduced during re grinding, > that(between #1 and #2) is where it is most likely to fail. If you are unlucky, it > will also fail in front of the #2 cam journal, and the cam piece will fall > down and trash the motor. > The USA factory race cams were ground from cams that arrived in the USA > with un ground lobes, and KAS had them ground. I have had the lobes of a > standard cam (TR4A is best) welded before regrinding, and that worked. In the > development of the TR2 they arrived at the two shank diameters in each > camshaft to reduce failures. > I also strongly recommend checking all possible related issues: from coil > bind to the dist/oil pump gear and the cam bearings. > > TR Regards, > > Hardy > > > > In a message dated 3/17/2013 11:02:59 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > fot-request@autox.team.net writes: > > Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:12:49 +1100 > From: "geoff byrne" > To: "Friends of Triumph" > Subject: [Fot] TR3 Cam Failure > Message-ID: <001801ce2300$5e5230e0$1af692a0$@optushome.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Amici > > I have been helping a friend with his TR3 race motor and we keep braking > cam > shafts . recently the cam broke between 1 and 2 cylinders while holding > 5000 > rpm through a sweeper. Comments seem to indicate that the 4 cylinder motor > is prone to breaking cams and a steel billet is required . I would > appreciate any comments on a similar experience and solution > > Geoff Byrne > > TR6 Racer Down Under > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel@pobox.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 18 13:28:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F58B40EBE for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:28:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8BA9B40E22 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:28:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.153] by nm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2013 19:26:41 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.237] by tm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2013 19:26:41 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1046.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2013 19:26:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 37739 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Mar 2013 19:26:40 -0000 s=s1024; t=1363634800; bh=MMXv3eERWx7YHUztCXXMCcLTJSsDoAKreppn4tFJap8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1YRztVuVqz3h28+QG2LMROhqlvcASYvace8te7OnFfmYw+dE/AFQK7NNDMA6bbRwgpaH9QhjRMotS43g0LkoqD7DdwaP7xCe9tlcTvygNzbrepjBBr50rA5TwXZk1GoTnQJNSSgFAt1ZT03bhjhExnQayI8XkKvLfjUZ50DiGHE= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RYEsT/hAFqosc9m0nMMcpVx+wTfztTUNG1jZZSNrDJ0ICESeFZwlzI2jE3ehMAr/eLywQDNVH+7zDjo4jeWDsN/PT7vh4upwGlyENnkSIXUKgstvuMJARY7Uy9ZJWteHv8+s8hrMR/W/HFmLPdwYbZ42vORtTnLqh/B7qmNLUfk=; e6hqQHfx1D57tahaGD33gANH4JCxDIODlpitR5nFlL7iFnXt5Y5VeScvH24g JjyX67MOb2vFLIoNKPQS1D2kchkifs0P58k8IFw7FFftrcEPEfVR15l5pbsx kGG4Gqb6gPGcc_Hl6cHtFcAfe9XoIDxi11xIgIaKh1YIOTyJOdjznsniG7EV CSrgPPsssM0bSWeGg7VPrtMeZsCssCBn8Ivakzl9ldutqNXULRFVRFrfw7Eu Gag_DZXeVdhJgENqx9LKE5_9uD5OgqGIgRUBXP_4uz_.qFP6R3pWWTg_QQ1g FVdbduFCK63cJI_uEyt.xYLOhSk7HsXp28vjhl0fDk_tXPrsxsNa2mdv_r7E Ktw7JgRVsxSEI2_oIbUz1.upFiDDlMk92XusqxCxZ7Rk0QP2PWa6_DHm0SHx KyKq10sQpWdFCl8rk.UoMbUrEzg-- Received: from [75.105.247.167] by web162502.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:26:40 PDT wqAgwqAgwqBBbWljaQoKwqAgwqAgwqBJIGFtIHRoaW5raW5nIG9mIHJ1bm5pbmcgYSB0dWJlIGZyb20gdGhlIGhlYXRlciBvdXRsZXQgdG8gdGhlIGZyb250IG9mIHRoZSBlbmdpbmUuCkluIHBhc3QgdGhyZWFkcyBpdCBzYWlkIHRvIGNvbm5lY3QgaXTCoHRvIHRoZSB3YXRlciBwdW1wIGlubGV0IChoZWF0ZXIgcmV0dXJuKSB0aGF0IGlzIGp1c3TCoAp0YWtpbmcgaG90IHdhdGVyIMKgYW5kIHJldHVybmluZyBpdCB0byB0aGUgZW5naW5lLCB3b3VsZG4ndCBpdCBiZSBiZXR0ZXIgdG8gcGx1bWIgaXQgdG_CoAoBMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:26:40 -0700 (PDT) From: John Wagner To: "Fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] cooling Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici I am thinking of running a tube from the heater outlet to the front of the engine. In past threads it said to connect it to the water pump inlet (heater return) that is just taking hot water and returning it to the engine, wouldn't it be better to plumb it to the thermostat housing and on to the radiator? Thank you Just the wrench John Wagner _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 18 15:45:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C2A4288A for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:45:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com (outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com [64.136.47.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9045340E5F for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:45:51 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1363643059; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=NT71zEsIVGKcGFfZONkkKScryDu8XXo/8Y4nDv/AcjaQQg341o5pLF8qXaoTpRZjm fO+J8CmtRPGdeEuBo1dKoiuloeUu9TBNK/aFDHT3uBa3GROG7uhttYH03yOzNQkxAn 0gSe+DPtfvfEVvGUGkghNmO/0LI2/50P52dOito4= Received: from outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com (webmail08.dca.untd.com [10.171.12.148]) by smtpout01.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABJWRCW3A4E2BAJ for (sender ); Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [76.23.185.62] by webmail08.dca.untd.com with HTTP: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:42:03 GMT From: "Joe Boruch" Full-Name: "Joe Boruch" Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:42:03 GMT To: j.wags63@yahoo.com Cc: Fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] cooling Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have a -4 braided hose from the heater valve location in the head to the thermostat housing by-pass location. The fitting at the back of the head has the ID reduced to about 3/16 inch. This is essentially a steam vent. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: John Wagner To: "Fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] cooling Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:26:40 -0700 (PDT) Amici I am thinking of running a tube from the heater outlet to the front of the engine. In past threads it said to connect it to the water pump inlet (heater return) that is just taking hot water and returning it to the engine, wouldn't it be better to plumb it to the thermostat housing and on to the radiator? Thank you Just the wrench John Wagner _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net ____________________________________________________________ OVERSTOCK ipads: $30.93 Get 32GB Apple iPad for as low as $30.93. Limit 1.Day. Grab yours Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/51478a9a9ec6a99547dst01duc _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 18 16:32:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C44A424E4 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:32:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A556F424DE for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:31:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130318222936.DWNW6169.mta11.charter.net@imp11> for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:29:36 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([66.227.235.90]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id DAVb1l00U1xi4cJ05AVcmj; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:29:36 -0400 a=SjuUym14L3tHVHHCmfaQRQ==:17 a=f5b0H3g8muEA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=jcxQY4YLLUgwTTbj72UA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=SjuUym14L3tHVHHCmfaQRQ==:117 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:29:39 -0400 From: Glenn Franco User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 To: Friends of triumph Subject: [Fot] TR4 Hubs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Group One of our club members has some bad TR4 solid axle hubs. Do any of you have any spares? Anyone have the Churchhill hub tool they would like to part with? Please let me know . Thanks Glenn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 18 18:58:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C661428E2 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:58:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D48E42841 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:58:37 -0600 (MDT) a=xuSzmQoJ1jvkAIfTlZRNrg==:17 a=bADDkjKAeCQA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=xNy0UcandiwA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=qAzHnIndZckJE2xnVM0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=LZzpjV-E7YZ12Wp4:21 a=tz_tEgTfW3T_rd-2:21 a=xuSzmQoJ1jvkAIfTlZRNrg==:117 Received: from [70.114.170.59] ([70.114.170.59:50741] helo=BlakePC) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id C3/9B-02677-1E7B7415; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:57:05 +0000 From: "Greg & Alison Blake" To: "'John Wagner'" References: <1363634800.28133.YahooMailNeo@web162502.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:57:05 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4kDp/UteTN0IHFSCCs0YHQNwJ5ZwAFksWw Content-Language: en-us Cc: 'Triumph Friends of' Subject: Re: [Fot] cooling Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net John, One of the short comings of the TR3 and TR4 cooling system design is the inability of steam to escape the system. Once formed, it creates hot spots and air has replaced water in the area steam has formed if you don't give it a path to escape. The fact that the thermostat housing is typically the high point of the system doesn't help. Another problem is lack of flow to the back of the head and to piston #4. I started down a similar path as you suggest. I assumed that if I routed hot return water back to the suction side of the water pump (return heater port) I'd be recirculating hot water and this would be bad. So for my system, I installed a expansion tank with a 22-25 psi cap on the firewall routed the heater supply (port on back top PS of head) to the top side port of the tank and routed the return line from the bottom of the tank to a fitting I installed between the thermostat housing and the intake of the radiator (I run a Chevy style cross flow radiator read more later). This allowed the hot water from the back of the block and head to return directly to the radiator and be cooled prior to go back through the engine. This seemed like a great idea. I now had a place for steam to collect (the expansion tank) and I had increased the flow to the back of the head and block. Only problem was it worked too good. Even with a 180 degree thermostat, I could not get any heat into the engine it was running less than 120 degrees. The system simply bypassed the thermostat as all water was flowing from the back of the head through the tank and back to the radiator. I had bypassed my thermostat. I thought about playing with various restrictions in my return line but figured that the correct restriction would likely change based upon conditions. So I scrapped my idea and plumbed my return line directly to the heater return port. Works like a champ now. I mentioned that I use a Chevy style cross flow radiator. This design has several advantages to the top to bottom flow of our standard radiators. The problem with a top to bottom design is that the radiator is seeing block pressure on the top of the radiator which means your radiator cap is seeing full block pressure, or very close to it. I have not put a pressure gauge on my block but I have read that block pressure can reach 30 psi. For this reason, some TR racers are always pumping at least a little water past their caps on a top down style radiator. With cross flow, the radiator cap is kept on the suction (low pressure) side which allows a low rated cap, I use a 7 or 12 psi cap in the radiator, can't remember exactly. More on expansion tanks. Do a little research and you will find that most if not all modern cars run stem vent tubes from the cylinder heads or other high points to an expansion tank. A good example is the Gen III & IV small blocks. I also use a 1/4 npt drain valve on the top of the thermostat housing to vent all air out of my system when filling, this is very important. I use the expansion tank as the fill point and fill until the water leaks out through the open 1/4" valve. I prime the system a little by squeezing the house on the intake side of the water pump as I fill the system. Once all the air is out, I close the valve and fill the expansion tank to within 1/4" of the top. So far, one race weekend, I have had zero water pump past either of my caps with this installation. My dad is using this same setup but with a Wizard top to bottom radiator. He was getting a little water past the cap on the radiator cap and the expansion tank cap. He was using a 12 psi on the radiator and 18 on the expansion tank. He has replaced the caps for higher rated ones so we will see how it goes at ECR in May. Bob Kramer has been using this setup with a top down radiator for a few years. I think in a 15-20 min race he fills his expansion tank overflow bottle but he is using a lower rated cap I think it was 12psi. I have tried to convince him to switch to a higher pressure rating on the expansion tank, we shall see. Let me know if you want more information or pictures. Greg 04 TR3 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Wagner Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:27 PM To: Fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] cooling Amici I am thinking of running a tube from the heater outlet to the front of the engine. In past threads it said to connect it to the water pump inlet (heater return) that is just taking hot water and returning it to the engine, wouldn't it be better to plumb it to the thermostat housing and on to the radiator? Thank you Just the wrench John Wagner _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 18 21:08:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE4340513 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:08:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (imr-mb02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9254032A for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:07:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.77]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1AD313800009C; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:06:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dlc002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dlc002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.182.69]) by mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id EB19BE00008F; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:06:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Catpusher@aol.com Full-name: Catpusher Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:06:19 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1363662380; bh=fAo6rMNdMQcf5BBqguUciVdeahxrx83NdzmcTXIjR6s=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=W75XNtghCeazIDbOCVtzVtWmfSsUbZRCBNOhpBFUjEMkiUrtJxBIASUwjGsarWLcT 7j8XokKkcets0vBXI7Do0hVvJKLF7V0JKBWADdB3OOdLBdTP92fjS4XhpHdCu/N7tc QRKoV87DEGMDSr0TESQG5qWLwMUxke5R34BXpjJQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294d5147d62b4f15 Subject: [Fot] Subject: Re: Triumph Movie Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Great movie! Unencumbered by the fear process? T2 at the real Laguna: flat out before stiffening the EP TR3 chassis with a cage. The Dip at the real Atlanta. During our first ARRC our posted radar speed was 142 MPH. I thought that most EP cars must be like mine in the dip until Lee Mueller came over after qualifying and told me that we had to talk, as he watched the dip from track side and I was trying to kill myself. He eventually mentioned bump steer, which I later measured as 1.7" on full droop. Every year the dip had my full attention and then some, even with the bump steer spot on. Ellie and I intently watched the great TR6 / 7 race. Oh, and in 83 when I was going up (in a state of shock) to receive the Donohue award, PLN was the first person to get up and shake my hand, and when I managed to say "Ah, retired TR6 racer" his smile became even larger. TR Regards, Hardy In a message dated 3/17/2013 11:02:59 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, fot-request@autox.team.net writes From: John Hasty Ah to be young and fearless again! _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 19 06:23:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A944290F for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 06:23:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s15.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s15.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.90]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A70942873 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 06:23:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU154-W46 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s15.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 19 Mar 2013 05:21:40 -0700 From: Charles WATSON To: FOT List Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:21:40 -0400 FILETIME=[4F691D30:01CE249C] Subject: [Fot] Shocks and Springs - GT6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Enjoying the process of rebuilding my suspension. I need to make the call on springs and shocks shortly. Tough to do some of the measurements with the body off and no weight on the car, so a few questions I could use some help on: Front Springs: - obviously want to lower, and plan to use adjustable spring perches, but where to start in length. I'm assuming 7.0-8.0" - spring rate: conventional wisdom seems to be north of 500 lbs. If so, how far north? Front Shocks: - what max length are you using to control droop, min length before bump? - what mfg and models are you recommending? - better to go with spherical bearings at lower mounts? Rear Shocks: - I have replaced the Rotoflex system with one that would allow me to use the Mk1/Mk3 mounts instead of the wheel arch mounts. Any reason not to do so? Given that, what can you recommend? Yes, I'm ignoring the rear spring in this post. It's a whole-nother can of worms. But for the record, I'm looking at a 400lb rate de-arched by about 2.5" as my starting point. Thanks, Chuck Watson _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 19 09:26:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4ED42B9D for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:26:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21B240EB0 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:25:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.13]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id BDD411C000096 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:24:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mud002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mud002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.195.69]) by mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 8F05FE000082 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:24:20 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m156.sysops.aol.com (64.12.159.1) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:24:20 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:24:20 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1363706660; bh=Tm0n3kdbzKXVLIPvA7PYu46bYuGgNP2OVzsRahB+580=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=J17b5WP/eIcw+tIJyLleTQUfHw+Gp9g8gtJFoh2h6UCiopi4ilpHX7zdfsUT54beV mm8XcFxJdtGJZvT4DWasndlkLR9KpNKEl+7vfL2RQRTZWpCb9b4lNSuJ70q2Eh3SDH rOBXitUZCSka10p0uxpsz7JlkuSQp4rj8m0oCNO0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290d51488324736c Subject: [Fot] Another GT6 MICHIGAN BASED and more. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT: Does anyone know Clark Lincoln? Long time DSR Racer in SCCA. At 70 something he has built a GT6, using Kas Kastner's latest book on the Chuck Gee build as a guideline. I have invited him to the Kastner Cup (with treaded tires) and he is giving it strong consideration. For whatever reason, this seems to be the Year of The GT6 & SPITFIRE at the KCUP....if they all manage to make it. Something to be encouraged.....did I mention that the Barker's are planning to come with both the SCCA Champion Spitfire AND the winning KCUP HERALD. This time the right gas will be going into those engines. (A mix up in race fuel caused the premature failure of two engines at the last KCUP at ROAD ATLANTA) Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 19 09:57:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577744054A for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:57:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AFC540407 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:56:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DRWb1l0020EPchoA2TvK4F; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:55:19 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.225] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DTvE1l00r4L5TyG8MTvFau; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:55:18 +0000 From: Bud R To: Glenn Franco Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:55:14 -0600 References: <51479553.7040804@charter.net> s=q20121106; t=1363708519; bh=t3yjpjnghWs9NYllhgZeMqdbQfPKjhHKDBK9jIIbyME=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=P4ZufOPSVxnqq8QxOD04IzYnFM0rwGIKLsJphCzbnqEgZPRGQntxE2YJvCFRdNYxh 2CHRNx7TX3XRsj/eeP3QP2ENGqZ85dc5t3oHd3ljnt3IyOR4PMD3uWG9yI3XeSdbk8 Sz0UDZLWMLZirYK+ILYvjsta/6/KFPyrAvdvN6w/EpJMFnUBTHyrjAEdB1t71d7ffQ FBn2T/IitlbYThBcf2FZgjUXJIEVqlLMLgS/yMVITGIeHGHqCYTDQt1ugnQNun6GuQ ZTp/bhKTZ8g4Hn3yliHWV9F4igIK4Pi5696BW9fISUfUZfc8123MyqxCPvjJx+4vJ0 X8gUI5kKidbCw== Cc: Friends of triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Hubs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've got a Churchill tool that I'd part with since none of my remaining TRs have stock rear hubs. I've been meaning to put it on ebay anyhow. Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 19 10:33:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62EAA42DE1 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:33:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A686F4006E for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:32:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id CCE2F380001C3 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:31:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dne005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dne005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.160.81]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 01D87E000082; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:31:18 -0400 (EDT) References: <8CFF2CCF654C5C3-E2C-2ACAB@webmail-m156.sysops.aol.com> To: n197tr4@cs.com, fot@autox.team.net From: gt6steve@aol.com Received: from 24.120.231.10 by webmail-m151.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.140) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:31:17 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:31:17 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1363710678; bh=gKI9Bi6QScnzxClbI5avq9yGVLZ/YYY/XSTvpJ5tOqk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bpOHLsoTVmP6CGP0byXyErMuz6uoBehmGrI8IW/I3RPBjAihp73nWBZDk8yIraIeh OeyR/oPEh+LbZCLo9fz94YskFSpMZQbWk/6g8jrm5RRFicnCO7Xp3wYRJXEjkUcooq nl2j73q2SIHlzQCxEnTjb9TUjZ/7uo5p3ANP9HSs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b514892d61270 Subject: Re: [Fot] Another GT6 MICHIGAN BASED and more. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Been talking a lot with Clark the last year or so. He's building a fantastic car from all I see.... -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander To: fot Sent: Tue, Mar 19, 2013 8:24 am Subject: [Fot] Another GT6 MICHIGAN BASED and more. FOT: Does anyone know Clark Lincoln? Long time DSR Racer in SCCA. At 70 something e has built a GT6, using Kas Kastner's latest book on the Chuck Gee build as guideline. I have invited him to the Kastner Cup (with treaded tires) and he is giving it trong consideration. For whatever reason, this seems to be the Year of The GT6 & SPITFIRE at the CUP....if they all manage to make it. Something to be encouraged.....did I mention that the Barker's are planning to ome with both the SCCA Champion Spitfire AND the winning KCUP HERALD. This ime the right gas will be going into those engines. (A mix up in race fuel aused the premature failure of two engines at the last KCUP at ROAD TLANTA) Joe Alexander . R. E. 45 1st Street esup, Iowa 50648 19.464.4711 (cell) 197tr4@cs.com ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 19 10:39:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC40742B19 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:39:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0291D40382 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:39:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DR4r1l00K0x6nqcA1Ue86o; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:38:08 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.12] ([67.188.175.115]) by omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DUe71l00a2Vle0b8YUe8Ux; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:38:08 +0000 From: Vintage Racer Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:38:09 -0700 To: FOT s=q20121106; t=1363711088; bh=wjMpTPRoV2CgFKFC7SsCWrZ5HHru+uqAOahfKVQX+yY=; h=Received:Received:Subject:From:Content-Type:Message-Id:Date:To: Mime-Version; b=d6NbYnQfLSSwJmCWMcxf23FsSjrg9ELWxBvhp2Go7xo3SVF5ilJ5qbPdKi0Pyn3hT ZDzD6eowS92gpuBNi/nR+RUiMK/l38LXDL5o1g6BldRms5t8dwO0pO9/U4enV9OGJG HHVSzVVL4Ton/7GEQPvV3ZNWIBGA9C6SUc9BayKrPf9U6s9zctpfB3XTAhY1NsRYkA ZrD6eNkfO1Y7gRGV7U2yir9hnQVES/0yCKtPehMoqBaLH2qo7NEoq6wQge/MkmyYX+ rpzgCPc0jZ8bGIlgyKcKgB/kyq/muLsU5wjo5LowJEJC1V6AS2ORUzCiMQq4/vVu6W dmHjgg9r7VvmQ== Subject: [Fot] Lifting Plates Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello: I have a set of lifting plates which I used to lift the body off my TR4 a few years ago which were kindly made for me by an FOT member. These plates make the job much easier and should work with most TRs. I have sold my car and no longer need them so if anyone is interested I would be happy to ship them for the mailing cost. Gary _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 19 10:55:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9744D4296E for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:55:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A6F34256E for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:55:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 81E1E1C0001F6 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:53:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mud002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mud002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.195.69]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4B5E6E000085; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:53:53 -0400 (EDT) References: <8CFF2CCF654C5C3-E2C-2ACAB@webmail-m156.sysops.aol.com> <8CFF2D650EF457C-750-291CE@webmail-m151.sysops.aol.com> To: gt6steve@aol.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m156.sysops.aol.com (64.12.159.1) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:53:53 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:53:53 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1363712033; bh=tRWIfLTpc9IeAdMTGu7RaK8xQ15soQO0M2Sdya267vc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=iXjl3u193hc9zJJNrpTNkSYQd53NwCXUYtFgJBMYl+vLVWOplEGelxm7lzkAkGf9s FAHMlFc6GDjxnvbF7/fXJU+8qKsk35/SCH9/wMqu353Bhl4auG7tJEvTTIuVfDjd/j vU89O9nC67Z2s4beKINNhPoGBChZ99bXOYl+CyvQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c514898215e93 Subject: Re: [Fot] Another GT6 MICHIGAN BASED and more. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The pictures of his car are really outstanding. He mentioned that he designed and built a couple of his DSRs. Old guys rock!! Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: gt6steve To: n197tr4 ; fot Sent: Tue, Mar 19, 2013 11:31 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Another GT6 MICHIGAN BASED and more. Been talking a lot with Clark the last year or so. He's building a fantastic car from all I see.... -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander To: fot Sent: Tue, Mar 19, 2013 8:24 am Subject: [Fot] Another GT6 MICHIGAN BASED and more. FOT: Does anyone know Clark Lincoln? Long time DSR Racer in SCCA. At 70 something he has built a GT6, using Kas Kastner's latest book on the Chuck Gee build as a guideline. I have invited him to the Kastner Cup (with treaded tires) and he is giving it strong consideration. For whatever reason, this seems to be the Year of The GT6 & SPITFIRE at the KCUP....if they all manage to make it. Something to be encouraged.....did I mention that the Barker's are planning to come with both the SCCA Champion Spitfire AND the winning KCUP HERALD. This time the right gas will be going into those engines. (A mix up in race fuel caused the premature failure of two engines at the last KCUP at ROAD ATLANTA) Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 19 11:51:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28CE442891 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:51:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A539A40687 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:51:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.72]) by qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DUBT1l0051ZMdJ4A5Vq9Vr; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 17:50:09 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.12] ([67.188.175.115]) by omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DVq81l00e2Vle0b8cVq9Qd; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 17:50:09 +0000 From: Vintage Racer Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:50:10 -0700 To: FOT s=q20121106; t=1363715409; bh=uQOmBjR7fWUg5EmAqWdP3UoPd9VKWdmy6qlnp3WnwlQ=; h=Received:Received:Subject:From:Content-Type:Message-Id:Date:To: Mime-Version; b=imDJbBJvUF0yOrhjS8gsVhxgiRGNCdPmIQlCRIQO0FzSazJrUY0Mtf0LfxBEvscU+ vic2Ik0+ZIp/whuNDzGlE4DUWXTlsPPYtDkDjYDJpmf8A+hOt1VVR1trh3Aer0boXI 5w0byK8/3itB0hFj/kU+7QyyYIib5Y5RNU1U8sNscOp1fDIs2LPrbRYNjjBywZCe93 doM1p7/snTBH51SKElK9Ir2GdTlDo9FpU9KXhXlrz6hjq0aj/UhneQqnEi4ouFcuVa cqrX6Li43QneoarwC9OxycaxkWejZoxFkUUQoB0KDnp6kzYOAvlqg7rVqeTySLY0rn lr8j4y2B/mj/g== Subject: [Fot] Lifting Plates Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Greg "Lunker" Hilyer was the first to respond so they will be on the way to him. Perhaps these plates can become an FOT Asset and circulated around to those who might need them? Ga _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 19 12:12:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7B24288A for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:12:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s26.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s26.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.101]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2926440338 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:12:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W41 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s26.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:10:51 -0700 From: marty sukey To: , FOT Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:10:50 -0400 References: FILETIME=[1726D6C0:01CE24CD] Subject: [Fot] FOT loaner tools Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hey, great idea. I'm trying to think of what oddball things I might have. Well there is the torque plate I had made up for TR6/GT6. blocks It's heavy but shippable. I could add it to the available to loan out for the cost of shipping list if anybody wants to borrow it. Marty > From: vintage.racer@comcast.net > Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:50:10 -0700 > To: FOT@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Lifting Plates > > Greg "Lunker" Hilyer was the first to respond so they will be on the way to > him. Perhaps these plates can become an FOT Asset and circulated around to > those who might need them? > > Ga > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 19 12:35:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE5142B26 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:35:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA5C42884 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:35:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DWTr1l0050EPchoA2WZtYz; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 18:33:53 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.12] ([67.188.175.115]) by omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DWZs1l00P2Vle0b8MWZspN; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 18:33:53 +0000 References: From: Vintage Racer Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:33:54 -0700 To: marty sukey s=q20121106; t=1363718033; bh=DSBYt8zISGN0qSsFPco0vcLmCnOSZa7jQ/tBgb4CX5w=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=cqmoivtSMUpW3QBscIKUBfVr/TueNwMBN0ZJTvFqa2GQfCcgm/CRVTMgmQU1dtJjn eHE858NP4Q9b5x7ee1Ph/+2mn9E0TzfTOhOpqOdEzaV7gxMOJFOyt40i1c1L3YHzU7 d5zeZtcRnWsAtDOALUfqSiM77iN6bnjNVNvm/P9cERnY3gULZpNyCbBk4ucO5WhhjB gEcNSJJ1f1F4lNwtNx9oMMTUoib4LcWNDsfm8mg2WgNjOrGB/DTiPTfEra0036NMFh MsYUox3ZVORC9FUnj7NNjsYRa216k8/gCV9A+akY2IIndLBzDUXh9irqRxLJkYoWoQ 2/nqzU4Bc5Yxw== Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] FOT loaner tools Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Marty: Nice contribution. If there are other items FOT'ers want to add, perhaps someone could keep a list and handle the loan/return of these specialized items. Gary Sent from my iPad On Mar 19, 2013, at 11:10 AM, marty sukey wrote: > Hey, great idea. I'm trying to think of what oddball things I might have. Well there is the torque plate I had made up for TR6/GT6. blocks It's heavy but shippable. I could add it to the available to loan out for the cost of shipping list if anybody wants to borrow it. > > Marty > > > From: vintage.racer@comcast.net > > Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:50:10 -0700 > > To: FOT@autox.team.net > > Subject: [Fot] Lifting Plates > > > > Greg "Lunker" Hilyer was the first to respond so they will be on the way to > > him. Perhaps these plates can become an FOT Asset and circulated around to > > those who might need them? > > > > Ga > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 19 12:59:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FFC342E92 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:59:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-da0-f54.google.com (mail-da0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 055484288B for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 22:10:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-da0-f54.google.com with SMTP id p1so41121dad.13 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:09:15 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=FON6VvwgRQyI+Kkl7mO68EMLPrxdPvC8/AMVHfS0oGk=; b=WY3wm1SAOUM7MXdAeq4mSzPpw4V2FCYyGZPpQ3uMMRHzG9Gt0YUA3QT05Yl7nAB3A4 Py8TsKGl0z5FkPuuHQsx01RlfoYZ8D7SXUd96+EoM7dTdJeU7P+f71QFRguEmHkUKbE6 W5JgA56Yy8GJ9Opl+zewWJoOanpLXkm2KZB6X9UaQn7Z0N+rzy0AfVCb/JCZUpimv+9b D1bcYwVL7y/IwDAr/lZ1Fra3nUjtbCBt9ewXJDzZ1wisNcIohzlrj47DpY3ZDWXyFdT/ ri4j2oUeiJbS5ZKS2O7LdNyo4WDxyYQQFmieCRmkGmUCx/bck5ZjtgOMy4m/nUZnvfv6 g2Zg== is6mr854877pbc.79.1363666155472; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:09:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.41] (udp235334uds.hawaiiantel.net. [72.234.40.38]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ij15sm10797548pac.4.2013.03.18.21.09.12 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:09:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Babcock Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:09:10 -1000 References: <1363634800.28133.YahooMailNeo@web162502.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <000901ce243c$acf8d770$06ea8650$@rr.com> To: "Greg & Alison Blake" Cc: 'Triumph Friends of' Subject: Re: [Fot] cooling Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Not to get too fussy, but steam doesn't need a path to escape. It turns back liquid water as soon as the temperature drops a bit or pressure is increased, If you have a steam bubble forming on the wall of a wet sleeve as soon as it gets away from the wall it almost certainly collapses. If you're seeing steam in the tanks it's only because you've opened the cap and dropped the pressure low enough to cause boiling. Steam is water in it's gasous state. Trapped air is a different story. On Mar 18, 2013, at 2:57 PM, "Greg & Alison Blake" wrote: > John, > > One of the short comings of the TR3 and TR4 cooling system design is the > inability of steam to escape the system. Once formed, it creates hot spots > and air has replaced water in the area steam has formed if you don't give it > a path to escape. The fact that the thermostat housing is typically the > high point of the system doesn't help. Another problem is lack of flow to > the back of the head and to piston #4. > > I started down a similar path as you suggest. I assumed that if I routed > hot return water back to the suction side of the water pump (return heater > port) I'd be recirculating hot water and this would be bad. So for my > system, I installed a expansion tank with a 22-25 psi cap on the firewall > routed the heater supply (port on back top PS of head) to the top side port > of the tank and routed the return line from the bottom of the tank to a > fitting I installed between the thermostat housing and the intake of the > radiator (I run a Chevy style cross flow radiator read more later). This > allowed the hot water from the back of the block and head to return directly > to the radiator and be cooled prior to go back through the engine. > > This seemed like a great idea. I now had a place for steam to collect (the > expansion tank) and I had increased the flow to the back of the head and > block. Only problem was it worked too good. Even with a 180 degree > thermostat, I could not get any heat into the engine it was running less > than 120 degrees. > > The system simply bypassed the thermostat as all water was flowing from the > back of the head through the tank and back to the radiator. I had bypassed > my thermostat. I thought about playing with various restrictions in my > return line but figured that the correct restriction would likely change > based upon conditions. > > So I scrapped my idea and plumbed my return line directly to the heater > return port. Works like a champ now. > > I mentioned that I use a Chevy style cross flow radiator. This design has > several advantages to the top to bottom flow of our standard radiators. The > problem with a top to bottom design is that the radiator is seeing block > pressure on the top of the radiator which means your radiator cap is seeing > full block pressure, or very close to it. I have not put a pressure gauge > on my block but I have read that block pressure can reach 30 psi. For this > reason, some TR racers are always pumping at least a little water past their > caps on a top down style radiator. With cross flow, the radiator cap is > kept on the suction (low pressure) side which allows a low rated cap, I use > a 7 or 12 psi cap in the radiator, can't remember exactly. > > More on expansion tanks. Do a little research and you will find that most > if not all modern cars run stem vent tubes from the cylinder heads or other > high points to an expansion tank. A good example is the Gen III & IV small > blocks. > > I also use a 1/4 npt drain valve on the top of the thermostat housing to > vent all air out of my system when filling, this is very important. I use > the expansion tank as the fill point and fill until the water leaks out > through the open 1/4" valve. I prime the system a little by squeezing the > house on the intake side of the water pump as I fill the system. Once all > the air is out, I close the valve and fill the expansion tank to within 1/4" > of the top. So far, one race weekend, I have had zero water pump past > either of my caps with this installation. > > My dad is using this same setup but with a Wizard top to bottom radiator. > He was getting a little water past the cap on the radiator cap and the > expansion tank cap. He was using a 12 psi on the radiator and 18 on the > expansion tank. He has replaced the caps for higher rated ones so we will > see how it goes at ECR in May. > > Bob Kramer has been using this setup with a top down radiator for a few > years. I think in a 15-20 min race he fills his expansion tank overflow > bottle but he is using a lower rated cap I think it was 12psi. I have tried > to convince him to switch to a higher pressure rating on the expansion tank, > we shall see. > > Let me know if you want more information or pictures. > > Greg > 04 TR3 > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of John Wagner > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:27 PM > To: Fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] cooling > > Amici > > I am thinking of running a tube from the heater outlet to the front of > the engine. > In past threads it said to connect it to the water pump inlet (heater > return) that is just taking hot water and returning it to the engine, > wouldn't it be better to plumb it to the thermostat housing and on to the > radiator? > > > Thank you > Just the wrench > John Wagner > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billb@bnj.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 19 16:17:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D400D42E90 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:17:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7512140E35 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:17:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.140]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id AEFF91C0001D7 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 18:15:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mud002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mud002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.195.69]) by mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 7E597E000088 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 18:15:47 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d284.sysops.aol.com (205.188.93.233) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 19 Mar 2013 18:15:47 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 18:15:47 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1363731347; bh=SO1abty5T1orSozs4hkm72iRGeYFkPu/98B3ecHi7/I=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UFAHNgPLWXfb0xw6saO4COWklJytsrtxjuBuFMFTcp/EmkkJFJQb5/hH0ZGXpINoU JJrtfPjXeUV1+o3uG0jCDrn9Z01Kwku6fywVxlUgnWOx18faBgX6O0i/26e08qsdPu hoHn3AA5tnxAki73v/8/ySafPhMcri71zcUuRP14= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338c5148e3933bad Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Wheel Spacers...aluminum spacers now available Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT: With some help and encouragement from the FOT, we produced a few Spitfire wheels spacers....same as the TR3-6 spacers in thickness. .250 stackable. We did preproduction run of 20....then we will do a larger run. If you want/need any please inquire/respond to this e-mail. Thanks Shawn F, Joe S, for the help in doing this. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 19 16:27:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC7B4051D for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:27:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f51.google.com (mail-la0-f51.google.com [209.85.215.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D54D40414 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:26:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f51.google.com with SMTP id fo13so1968808lab.10 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:25:20 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=st4pLpZeWsFpb8lHsQUWKrXlW3Xbsx+irWEUvSI/Ft4=; b=bYot8m01OSaHmEcf/213e3sYnZ7KBhVjrhOCAejoHXgknC38rR0sIhFNFiOv+yEMVJ +Rh9w7eETcntej/doFy990/CQrQFVRzeeJ1XGjt1n4ZM6F1DjnnLbdA443BJ6DRDqhVH J4z52U2L8MsHdpOngEyozEMT8YDHLGeWvtY986/8kFIeUbfenOczQ6aEnDYA1hp/KQZS J6DZadVnqq+yTvtPn7+yOByzjnbswvZpKu4VPxHpaZqlbQCXjtCIz8oXsJVeF4EdaAbQ SrImZgIOq3nEKCCJsGaiCRXLKVlR9emoAZSlTB0XDRMqqhVSWsSfF8sQqF8DHtWTKTxW m1YA== op9mr3560489lab.3.1363731920333; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.33.48 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:24:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Kas Kastner Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:24:40 -0700 To: fot Subject: [Fot] Question about books Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have been working for almost a year on an updated version of the original *Triumph Preparation Manual*, which was written in 2002 and reprinted several times. The stock is about depleted and will not be reprinted. As it has been very popular with lots of information for builders of Triumph racers, my updated version has more and newer material, details, photos etc, but will still keep the pertinent information from the original book. The result is a book of about 280 full size pages. This new book will not be a printed book. It will be a download book or a purchased disc. Here is my problem, what do you the readers want? How do you folks want to see this new book? The download version will be less than $20 and the disc version will be less than $30. the disc version will include the complete new book, plus special video selections of my time with the GTP program at Nissan. Lots of views of the cars in action, interviews and the racing in 1988-1989-1990. For various technical reasons the download book will NOT have this added entertainment. We also have the possibility of both version becoming available. With all the new mediums in communication I would appreciate your opinions on what would be your choice. It would probably be best to give me your opinion direct to my new Email address, kaskastner@gmail.com. Thanking all in advance. *Never be beaten by equipment.* _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 19 17:18:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E873740EB0 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 17:18:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A470740EB0 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 17:18:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B5BA21C00005A for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:16:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mud002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mud002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.195.69]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 8D294E000083 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:16:38 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d284.sysops.aol.com (205.188.93.233) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:16:38 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:16:38 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1363734998; bh=IUqFzPYu/1VFA7208VNSIO3SY9e4emOy/6XuzSePb58=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uSloWH6wpWwHaa6Js+Phh1RCCOXPU/MJUMUDIV8CQCl1WtUffq1kOz0cUz+ZkOkRV D8S9dvXM8XXChCdHyr5e/j0J+gZv+S92011xzgxkJmtDp5hXF1urwYFKlkWOkLFb20 LKGIZLBuccv7dbFt5hCCAneC3uIdq32WnDcRM5IY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d5148f1d65c79 Subject: [Fot] TR3 TSD RALLY CAR What CAM would you use? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Engine builder is asking about customer's engine......he has rebuilt several TR engines but never a modified one. Mainly he deals in ITALIAN stuff. 89 mm pistons Premium Gas requirement 10.2 compression is likely. What cam would anyone recommend for running at 4,000-5,000 RPM on 800-1000 mile rallyes. The customer runs about 4-5 every year. Money no serious consideration. Thanks in advance, Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 19 17:49:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2F442936 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 17:49:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118C240E35 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 17:49:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 06A0C38000051 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:47:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mud002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mud002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.195.69]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 83269E000081 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:47:29 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d284.sysops.aol.com (205.188.93.233) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:47:29 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:47:29 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1363736849; bh=WcN6pet6qG6ZrMzUhsDnmAm1tP7d4AUE3x7RYw6gRPg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UpMq6Z7MgaMVQfY/AAuYRgPs/jsqQ57tyL5aDGXPQcGjDG/TfrTkRZNiJbEqk3agU BP8sOqRnSxUnW3JySsEHdfojzyyw31ZaMnmQRJanS13vicI+stqMwaPbhJhcFMDXg/ 6vfYh4qlxPNMGvegHu2q6p3Ohzl4IyOM1tdNPvvg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b5148f9111e4b Subject: [Fot] anyone have an ORIGINAL KASTNER "D" CAM on the shelf? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net thanks Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 19 23:22:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E205340359 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 23:22:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 383594288E for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:31:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.145] by nm17.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Mar 2013 19:30:04 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.207] by tm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Mar 2013 19:30:04 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1016.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Mar 2013 19:30:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 28278 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Mar 2013 19:30:04 -0000 s=s1024; t=1363721404; bh=Z2n/1feWxB0Jap13pjTO0PeX+U/aahESAxczDN+v97c=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oNBlVjJIGORC2R8o5sdjSe6QvLoi7VAu6aj2pTgssqy7LLPUyaKq+2aaO7OzcoCT+zBVmwaXQhGLn0V1/gqgOMshMXe8jEEigK7yJn+XOuncYp48cq7sdKCJEnEJYcrTRkg4JrFOUHujJdxpx/6lHOyMX7An/KcF2T07RVirIs4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=F2nvHsZWxlQi6Yyfm77oQxxh85q9nVgavy8Q959SG8GRUs0TH5GRXdnj47WKFLKrQOBR/6sJSBrF5wA6dbgm5zCa9ox98TUmMohfjyi6DhR0u1MDgWqaudUtrw1usIvz7fc6WAOTxLdObQBjo59lClllxp+qBpALpjO4iEkkGhc=; yEdn8agN2qJn.AY_6bPIm1GnqJ_j3EvXQyaTlq3styBim1n.8pDM1WQYH5rO hz7BsBpC6CWRLaaIBPS6.OXaEZ6Gfja_2.OjG5E5d_AC9iWJtLO2yWS_XYEn 98oP8vtoE4M7ENx0SMXweZAaohz9TmrPo1IIlaixPMpCESwLSHgQinCdbzFQ QYZ9lQKKK0AWkIUtv_gi4LxxQh.wtdNieeLjHzr6eCFlPqLE5mKbShfbxT3i mtk3mjOXK4UxBdefSEBufEljZyEC75CY3FMVupWt74WPKNrc9e_wdS8feAj. e6EPCuVp6PkTGnQFXGVE8Nf0sMdE.fERCzA27t9fhXmPHNWBRO2QgaLyw7dm Hu_Rvh1phMInJYgdU85GT51jzg1fID4j2MZZp6lxNMkLtIqdUJKrGFJklIgt OJQZuqMpkXg58Uk7wLMQfFfcBCbn_BlYQSZDWx0Cvpe4ZXvYXo26ZFKcOqsl YHW9LTS0zpzWBaYYnW6i8fQP.UkguzWxU0PchIjiq_ro.OYKl5wjtJg_FUAQ JgpyOj5qnow-- Received: from [70.208.10.122] by web160903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:30:04 PDT SSBydW4gYSB2ZXJ5IHNpbWlsYXIgc2V0IHVwLiAKClNlbnQgZnJvbSBZYWhvbyEgTWFpbCBvbiBBbmRyb2lkCgoBMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:30:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Mehl To: "j.wags63@yahoo.com" , "ablake2@austin.rr.com" Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] cooling Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I run a very similar set up. 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Mail on Android _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 20 08:25:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F5F64044D for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 08:25:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635D240419 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 08:25:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.204]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 52F1D1C0000E0; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:23:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-muc003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-muc003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.193.201]) by mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E5215E000086; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:23:21 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m148.sysops.aol.com (149.174.9.7) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:23:21 -0400 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:23:21 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1363789402; bh=IF2U15iQVSecjyLpj1YtyAYSJmIshP4lMlAqgB6cLLw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lNYwo7BXAn7gNrKe1GmTSl7+JC3YvLRxjVCcLZKUopjoT0lLJ/CojfWTBmifPB1UW yfKixRcBlh+5ap/nykKIwm896B7vXnJL+51a1poWIcvXbh8bmtXPU5f5U1yfesHP1I W7PgE3dH2Rbn/B9fifz2ayeSYQcqdj+75oM3CV0o= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cc5149c6591b5d Subject: [Fot] Thanks! CAM SELECTION RESPONSES Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT: Thanks to everyone who responded on the quest for a cam for rally purposes. I had forgotten about the very comprehensive study of TRIUMPH CAMS that FOT LARRY YOUNG did and posted on his TILDEN TECHNOLOGIES website. What a great spreadsheet on all of the cams available for all levels of performance. Worth a trip into the TRIUMPH CAM DESIGN link even if you are not currently looking. A ton of information and easy to read. WHADDA GROUP! Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 20 08:28:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87BB14042E for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 08:28:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm18-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm18-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.138]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8236A40419 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 08:28:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.142] by nm18.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Mar 2013 14:26:43 -0000 Received: from [76.13.13.230] by tm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Mar 2013 14:26:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp109-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Mar 2013 14:26:43 -0000 s=s1024; t=1363789603; bh=tIRY96dzYiqbHL4edHRet/WHyU6Qb6IC0CrYWIvYzKE=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Subject:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=qMxRNBv4QY5MctYQtFExj3eT4/3Fu8hvVD90Ta1B1ndCIgImjvNgnaAwqb2311UETNX25O/LHIHmysaWyNPJaZueXMQCDH/GxFcQ83YdCrWZja1pNvXcYbwr17SrZ5APbX8FpsAo6GObQR3JRhBRMVV/NzOO4dQzan2bNYJnSDs= bP.BklAh1JexU4PzhqeLSsRHScQMDx3uzVYEDdx4AAnHryU.JvWRKNWutFEk UZusCooXUOLsTZlRP0qpPs511i7vrTW0HYEsTupSQeR9GPY40GlnIOM6Aiuc Mq5IkkapZoQALuwbVQFtIT87cvbeCBXlLyoKx9FCpePIwvjjRhjq2sHK1Qjm skRwwjFTuiMvhYPJ1EhcJr9ZfAvkNEA.UzlXK0CRfHtynHclX5mw5wI2j_8Q l.nz3op5_jZTcMk8m18misZIMz2vmgdB9IP5So9ptlUvgkDnsojAubXFJQPL n.yiQ5.2KoIS7.UxLCmht2sFjyG6Lovt06EKjiq4Nl7WIT8oKwfBoup922il fnTBkzhTynphmvWskrXhs7VzwYDMtPl6cFIZ4592zxeDLNQoH1x7oI_68hVu nKDzb9VgDkXPfvK8A5bUH8BCaXfKBMv7_azY- xymcookie) by smtp109-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Mar 2013 07:26:43 -0700 PDT From: Dennis Delap Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:27:13 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A M I C I I'd like to nominate Steve Myers to our humble group. He is a good guy and will be racing a TR4 this season here in the midwest. I do believe that Steve will benefit from and add value to the FOT. Second? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 20 08:38:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E55B4052F for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 08:38:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com (imr-db01.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F6ED40042 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 08:35:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 83C7538000173; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:33:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtd003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtd003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.201]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 55AA2E00008C; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:33:41 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:33:40 -0400 (EDT) To: yellow-green@sbcglobal.net, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1363790021; bh=pWg8JIr/IrFxoJWldrhCbxJLJDGS+WFeZm5Vbz8PWaE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mRvd6w37gpRcnoUr1uKkWhMSck/pnGeL7Ps3y0nmEchYzuFqu2VFmYzpCoezTR/2M OF4kkwZ8T/TrXfxVoc+Vc5c/1OOSWRtnjEuwgehXgkL75EHvH2K+vP7ZFwl9m0rSuG uA4bNNw6KI1kH3r2pdAFvfhYYTvNx9uvNxsmF+Zo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb5149c8c53eba Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 03/20/2013 8:26:49 AM Central Standard Time, yellow-green@sbcglobal.net writes: > I'd like to nominate Steve Myers > to our humble group. He is a good guy and will be racing a TR4 this > season > here in the midwest. I do believe that Steve will benefit from and add > value > to the FOT. > Second? > Second! Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 20 10:26:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 179C94043E for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:26:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f53.google.com (mail-bk0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34981403F6 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:23:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-bk0-f53.google.com with SMTP id j10so971691bkw.26 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:21:51 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=pQ+OHK9q9XtcZQn8kdIzzU88Gv4apMMoeeJjvp6JER0=; b=PKvHg5VtDG/g9NOdbyZO+IqJhTTjRJxBs1kJ0su4IEO+2kWGIklxgRqFnM0PBXKAPO 2QG6TsC4sQdKQwVLE0e7OQ1rCT+OGQXOtarY0+j4MA0V2Wj8/zQ0/IhBc0s/HfftAaLn jNlmbSTYT7iZDaIEdS85g0XVmBBinhrtfJhenoG8SrIvVT8/fqOTuGeIIa/bF4Xx+1dy Z8Q+vWuSk132kF9QxESZVB38SHziunbttJTLgaEL2uYfjzvu1pKLMZlu8Lgz18YV/ATy WPgtd5wt9PHJzwfYyJQRGAvPqTDMWqiQ53vv/muAMrVbBGWDFcQ1s6rranZdHapR6vDx QOVA== yi6mr11468493bkb.8.1363796510975; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([109.46.84.129]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fw3sm680874bkc.9.2013.03.20.09.21.42 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:21:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <5a30c.46bcaaa4.3e7b22c4@aol.com> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:21:49 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac4leG3fvlAYT46KQdmuB0sXQgQLlAADkiGA Content-Language: de Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup - 2013 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Guys, I will attend at the next Kastner Cup event. I checked many ways to bring my car but nothing which fits my budget to get a single car to USA an back in short gap of time. Question: Maybe there is a race car available for me? Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 20 12:38:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE932403DD for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:38:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail201c2.megamailservers.com (mail201c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0A740338 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:37:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) by mail201c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r2KIa77G030006; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:36:11 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: "'MadMarx'" , References: <5a30c.46bcaaa4.3e7b22c4@aol.com> <000801ce2587$0c6f3370$254d9a50$@com> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:36:06 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4leG3fvlAYT46KQdmuB0sXQgQLlAADkiGAAASzOIA= a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=XjD-wIfVuiJ4Z3hjvu0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=037CH57EtUb1EPtj:21 a=CJhAZQOzjcQ15gBU:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup - 2013 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Chris: I might be able to round up a FIAT 124 spider that won the 2000 F-Production SCCA National Championship. Let me know if you want me to ask John if it is available and what the cost might be..... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of MadMarx Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:22 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup - 2013 Hi Guys, I will attend at the next Kastner Cup event. I checked many ways to bring my car but nothing which fits my budget to get a single car to USA an back in short gap of time. Question: Maybe there is a race car available for me? Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 20 14:33:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A804042E for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:33:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E0E403FA for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:31:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DoXF1l00G1wfjNsA1wW5N7; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:30:05 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.244] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DwW41l00R4L5TyG8jwW4H0; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:30:05 +0000 From: Bud R To: Friends of triumph Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:30:04 -0600 s=q20121106; t=1363811405; bh=Q6ZpKlGXrgYCavlDHgisiGUJUbsZQmEFD+A1qNd3zcE=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=HE12NZYAkPrUSFPXiwbXnPZghf2kZ9dtXyueigDzfZg6Y66KeqwgbF0u6prLIilqY fesRcnxZ3wi1EUlosTcYZe2wiKdc75dZ12vEsPaO+PJiiZtWu6oQz5lnVfuWma07/i y2bFZ8JtBUaXY1oNHRcS8ltBpSffukiGLE+NJXgLLTFtbQ9uhd1iiIFa208jsMCHgc tV3kRPQR+DbEbfnYOsFLmJJC7Gr+oMUd+mQlJv4H/vXEqCW3GgpTf8kvEsz6KEm/6K gNLknL/h4n8byoAbBk8emF0+HQUmvOlBzygbb3UDZqR0sDqzxs0SqkuFU7SD/jhFi/ WdgMLEynZhz/A== Subject: [Fot] Alloy Race Wheels Spitfire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net List, I'm looking for a set of 13 x 6 inch alloy race wheels for my Spitfire (4" x 3.75" (95.25mm). I need two with zero offset and two with - 0.75 inch offset. So far the only 13 x 6 inch wheels I've found are made by Revolution in the UK which means lots of shipping costs, etc.. Does anyone know of a US source? I called about some VTO wheels at the Acme Speed Shop in South Carolina and haven't heard back from them but they only list 5.5 inch and not any 6 inch in 13 inch diameter wheels on their website so I'm not sure about availability. Thanks Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 20 15:06:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 883E54044D for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:06:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm4-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm4-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.110]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8CF940043 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:02:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.107] by nm4.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Mar 2013 21:01:09 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.82] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Mar 2013 21:01:09 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Mar 2013 21:01:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 26547 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Mar 2013 21:01:09 -0000 s=s1024; t=1363813269; bh=9WG8Cf2GPzdLyqtDpKUXRflUIEytgjpktQgJ1BtJ6+o=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pJYGwDruhw3S2RfEKqx8QvERXexqROxPGQlKsYAH7MRlc/RSpyCdxhBuDnv9deB3HVgjOoxKkoxcGLNqQu4/RrIf80es83vbi8WOX8zbSvnc3YqTm2A1bXN1D53njptPpO9tUynK8El+L2EOipFS7dvnywYA4kCtF9IOML+U8+0= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=49WVaY/AjJnpnJiZmCl+8b5Lv8T6Rz75E3nIB6ahV3gHkEQGgCvem4RZk6mnkEealPi57GBdjrGIPCSj3bNwGXCiXp3Z/0nc2Ik0n2U20RONk5P4B9J9mcGcqXwy0EtyaX6VGsoXw+mugiPYnP8pHiOL+LZ33tjEuTLzUsky6l0=; mZZfqAAiIGdPqClCD_BAcUcc16objXjiZHWOPRrJRpqWAi7zoQ0FFEz5SNeL tE3k_m84MVS1c0efxmbfJnrGQY3cDc88k0xUD2pgNm5AbejxB4.WaO1dhZD5 tylw7fGOtriZd2F_6AdDLKLwRQJv0bIlLqvC_qhdHKIRdfSsperJvTiQovoh cd4RyykCWetm9eOYBB8F.CD4kylblxYHNx3gfhUJrPpdNsXH44EmNnIhJ4XF W6yW8dtj9n9N_YnUb_rbl.dea48S1ELlQcRwKMFemSHrL7Bx8XHZ8GVi6g5e c1K4ymvJwRvmJQdbwgF2PyoQjA10XcPcQBAwuSK50oAKqiydRQVmt0L4qb8r BqH2c6nG.tmk3eynu0aYJJHhsVSn9OlNw3qKa58VeQoEkYaKzAv.2NueMptE uqsoSeTfaWHwj9NGactvmLGHIRsrlE1egEXPt1Z0AtgVxwEWZfRuq4xXDKIU qr0ufitBRvpIG2WBgYPW0zGYvltvwqdU_A4njJbxO3vwU6w-- Received: from [72.52.96.33] by web181101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:01:08 PDT U3BpdCBiaXRzIG5vdyBjYXJyaWVzIHRoZSA0IHNwb2tlIEFSIHdoZWVscy7CoCBUaGV5IG1heSBiZSBhYmxlIHRvIGhlbHAuwqAgUm9nZXIgCktyYXVzcyBSYWNpbmcgaW4gQ2FzdHJvIFZhbGxleSwgQ0EgYWxzbyBoYXMgY29ubmVjdGlvbnMgd2l0aCBtYW55IHN1cHBsaWVycyBhbmQgCmNvdWxkIGJlIHdvcnRoIHRhbGtpbmcgdG8sIGVzcGVjaWFsbHkgZm9yIHJhY2luZyBhcHBsaWNhdGlvbnMuCkFuZHkKCgoKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCkZyb206IEJ1ZCBSIDxsZXZpbGV2aUABMAEBAQE- References: <36E9C90C-7EB4-48CC-A2E3-7F6A75BFCE66@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:01:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Packard To: Bud R , Friends of triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Alloy Race Wheels Spitfire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Spit bits now carries the 4 spoke AR wheels. They may be able to help. Roger Krauss Racing in Castro Valley, CA also has connections with many suppliers and could be worth talking to, especially for racing applications. Andy To: Friends of triumph Sent: Wed, March 20, 2013 1:32:46 PM Subject: [Fot] Alloy Race Wheels Spitfire List, I'm looking for a set of 13 x 6 inch alloy race wheels for my Spitfire (4" x 3.75" (95.25mm). I need two with zero offset and two with - 0.75 inch offset. So far the only 13 x 6 inch wheels I've found are made by Revolution in the UK which means lots of shipping costs, etc.. Does anyone know of a US source? I called about some VTO wheels at the Acme Speed Shop in South Carolina and haven't heard back from them but they only list 5.5 inch and not any 6 inch in 13 inch diameter wheels on their website so I'm not sure about availability. Thanks Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/apackard68@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 20 15:19:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 977BC4042A for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:19:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s7.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s7.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC6A1403FA for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:16:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU154-W13 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s7.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:14:32 -0700 From: Charles WATSON To: Bud R , FOT List Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:14:31 -0400 References: <36E9C90C-7EB4-48CC-A2E3-7F6A75BFCE66@comcast.net> FILETIME=[EA4E2F20:01CE25AF] Subject: Re: [Fot] Alloy Race Wheels Spitfire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bud - I know the owner of Acme Speed Shop. His name is Hap Waldrup and is a MG racer. He can get 13x6 for a Spit 3.75" PCD in a couple of different backspace options and a couple of styles and colors. His shop is kind of "part time" so don't give up on contacting him. Thanks, Chuck Watson > From: levilevi@comcast.net > To: fot@autox.team.net > Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:30:04 -0600 > Subject: [Fot] Alloy Race Wheels Spitfire > > List, > > I'm looking for a set of 13 x 6 inch alloy race wheels for my Spitfire > (4" x 3.75" (95.25mm). I need two with zero offset and two with - > 0.75 inch offset. > > So far the only 13 x 6 inch wheels I've found are made by Revolution > in the UK which means lots of shipping costs, etc.. > > Does anyone know of a US source? I called about some VTO wheels at the > Acme Speed Shop in South Carolina and haven't heard back from them but > they only list 5.5 inch and not any 6 inch in 13 inch diameter wheels > on their website so I'm not sure about availability. > > Thanks > Bud Rolofson > > Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) > 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle > 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/clw2000@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 20 17:40:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70AC8427B3 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:40:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB90A403D5 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:40:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([unknown] [71.171.30.157]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MJZ00EJBGBG7661@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:38:09 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:38:03 -0400 From: "J.C. Hassall" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100722 Eudora/3.0.4 To: fot Subject: [Fot] TR4-6 wheel stud knurl OD? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone happen to know the OD of the press-in wheel studs for TR4-6? Most of the p/n I've found are just a tad over the 0.494 ID I've measured in the hub, so the knurl OD could be a sticky issue. I need longer studs in 7/16x20 thread, so need to order larger and drill the hubs. Anyone have a favorite p/n? tnx jim -- Jim Hassall Blacksburg VA '63 TR4 in autox preparation 99% finished, 90% to go _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 20 17:56:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C57B4281C for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:56:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm13-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm13-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A784C40512 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:52:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.55] by nm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Mar 2013 23:51:07 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.127] by tm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Mar 2013 23:51:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Mar 2013 23:51:07 -0000 s=s1024; t=1363823467; bh=ayO7BsjKE70RpwyXczpg26c9m5qRp+vzRkdgpMp+bJs=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Message-ID:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:MIME-Version:To:From:Subject:Date:Content-Type; b=29duh8AEOmyxBM2nSM5UmwlTVnbh2arluENGzJoa4MIOkE0ystZyf8OeJayHu8g8oh0QvLqpPwu5U0IsCDGgtvkae2dwX0Ish48XoeTkInkOAmHXcDGZmNcw+Zf7RcOXOLhzHXEhWqj8YF01sJorrNAnBNLzjC85P57kP2GRt+U= ROYg8icZOdsW.z4J9ojk5BeIYNJWZnjA68ugYTJrtw4fzUO8Q6Xikwp8Dkdv TM_heIKAiCloJkGA7CxxYNWL4eUsZJtyr2XqgzvZJrO35cWV2SmmQOBRPexh dhhv3kDLbtJTZDOA9VndcEzZCv3sYYzx_I9xpu1U9hIfgp5JyeOiDp2JOPAB xfW09_8l4eRSF_Efvds7_0_GOF.mC4bR.kqhigJ9IsPFD.W3979SPu2_tIha 1MFJgof0TTaC5Nf9vqmxLJbQtQA0dVbH_jyNWvyLcd.h96W87LfKf6xJVdwh wnIYK0ok_NJDFsCrGj.FCaGaGCk4U.LD2mQLmg_d2.BgJQF8kIC6c3V7dn7x tbOj9EU7UDHCyaauUB_jrIf5_hWldaHCaRNLdeUIw7Iaxf4tyq6aESCx_ROZ Uw.KRKXhNiMSeqa1TYQI4oSAEul4O30pcCT69pQMYD9OGfGosbvdE0yjLQ5Q 2At2skGXKqBjQfaz4R_2dr0jrLbBYO0pkgAroig-- login) by smtp206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Mar 2013 16:51:07 -0700 PDT To: "J.C. Hassall" , fot From: Dennis DeLap Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:50:34 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4-6 wheel stud knurl OD? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Moroso 46160 -----Original Message----- From: "J.C. Hassall" Sent: b3/b20/b2013 6:38 PM To: "fot" Subject: [Fot] TR4-6 wheel stud knurl OD? Anyone happen to know the OD of the press-in wheel studs for TR4-6? Most of the p/n I've found are just a tad over the 0.494 ID I've measured in the hub, so the knurl OD could be a sticky issue. I need longer studs in 7/16x20 thread, so need to order larger and drill the hubs. Anyone have a favorite p/n? tnx jim -- Jim Hassall Blacksburg VA '63 TR4 in autox preparation 99% finished, 90% to go _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 20 17:56:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1FA428E5 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:56:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm20.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm20.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.221]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D3E54053E for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:54:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.197] by nm20.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Mar 2013 23:52:18 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.44] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Mar 2013 23:52:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp101.vzn.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Mar 2013 23:52:18 -0000 avTvt66mmtkH7ZBoFqZo6gkGsfKd_TID6nPk1ybagDyPj3p7PIQzNks3Oi04 dSKVTBE7j67F98uyQvx8KQvjZ8pCHX80zC8pmJ12KLGfhCdJFSjdCj9QJ13i GY2fANh3TqnvbcG5D9fY9cSMdbUGjxFHUSxTs.Pw501XeWCB07uh7Jfry.tq 6Fm34KuElMaEV3E7_zlYEhNsbQYB1fPoTyaiyR0j2W0ZUDf2flLVsRyQQOla bbdX0bs3jgAlUJYLr0gK..Z9bhUhIcBRXk_kDVv4Iqlxq1TmvnXbhal5giY3 aH5abpYbBJLio86ux7sijgOIvsHbQETpX_yMkRtd1rQki8jeyEkYJ0wj2hgL 6L2lM2doL6k_w4NlCgQgE.RSn_Dh4r48T1YThFv_oTPUPEFqbi5KnFFSH3py 1hxq.KLinr386rFvcQkjDiYXQdc_h by smtp101.vzn.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Mar 2013 16:52:18 -0700 PDT Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:52:20 -0400 From: Hugh Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 To: "J.C. Hassall" References: <514A485B.2050006@blacksburg.net> Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4-6 wheel stud knurl OD? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Jim, I'm using ARP P/N 100-7708 "12mm x 1.50 Late Model GM/Corvette". These will press into TR6 hubs without re-drilling the holes and are 3" long. They are metric so you have to use the appropriate metric lugnuts. Hugh Barber Stafford, VA On 3/20/2013 7:38 PM, J.C. Hassall wrote: > Anyone happen to know the OD of the press-in wheel studs for TR4-6? > Most of the p/n I've found are just a tad over the 0.494 ID I've > measured in the hub, so the knurl OD could be a sticky issue. I need > longer studs in 7/16x20 thread, so need to order larger and drill the > hubs. Anyone have a favorite p/n? > > tnx > > jim _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 20 18:11:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A3124053E for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:11:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail168c2.megamailservers.com (mail168c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B16940439 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:11:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.235.118.162] (105.sub-174-254-144.myvzw.com [174.254.144.105]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail168c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r2L09MBN003915 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:09:26 -0400 References: <514A485B.2050006@blacksburg.net> From: John Hasty Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:09:20 -0400 To: "J.C. Hassall" a=dQeHT2toPvoA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=3+PKuXL7iE63aKm+pIIZZQ==:17 a=qH0YNQDRAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=3_3KCWrjo-_-uIaBefkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=erhHHfXf-WMA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=3+PKuXL7iE63aKm+pIIZZQ==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4-6 wheel stud knurl OD? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We found the knurl to be different on the Southwick axles than the stock front TR3. Summit had long studs with the correct knurls for each in 7/16 size. They were Morso studs. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 20, 2013, at 7:38 PM, "J.C. Hassall" wrote: > Anyone happen to know the OD of the press-in wheel studs for TR4-6? Most of the p/n I've found are just a tad over the 0.494 ID I've measured in the hub, so the knurl OD could be a sticky issue. I need longer studs in 7/16x20 thread, so need to order larger and drill the hubs. Anyone have a favorite p/n? > > tnx > > jim > > -- > Jim Hassall > Blacksburg VA > '63 TR4 in autox preparation > 99% finished, 90% to go > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 20 21:21:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C0740542 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 21:21:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm30.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm30.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CBA4403F6 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 21:21:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.104] by nm30.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Mar 2013 03:19:21 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.173] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Mar 2013 03:19:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp107.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Mar 2013 03:19:21 -0000 FlQ..fW.nNjgIdoLI.UXBLT4Pq_VHd6CLEw5UVAP5mQNhM11IUC9sIOzC63q IkIJYwV__4zgEOb1AQySv8kaU_6ZJemt4eLD76jfGbcO7gCLTP7WJFklQmSs q1yrRUrv8MUykzHZlY_ylkEfGahEn432N9fxgltcWRpcAsv6KdQEZXmi4io6 zbYY5CCtSRdfSCqZHQ7rYGpUyz79hpQrXSFWimahliHPJdSPMiMmyb6f67Cb vd8ihZ9pjakFA02LNruraWA1J74h.1LuqVcED0dfmKPJQnZFMoHdvgWjeBd3 MxJGzABZrbfbyh5.Hugpc.veFDqh5KAQmNxCDGdpezRd4gvNRaPpS0dA1mNN SyAmJ2h.7OFKL2ocWc5WI6hvBXRdy0GmiFLrkb28OWPxieUaU78Qh5pEXvmO jsfHYrb6K.tz9GM7kMbjFEWVJ6xtqNJuGwvtoGhX82yM_TJqpMwN8HkjuGM7 T2ubzsT.uXb.5DnjFOAtVwT.XNaBOkh6pNdk27SikDil91.Gdzu1kiQOm7Pw 5aVJ50xiYsf9NaBjwsbX1eUCUGJC35Y6xeOVsNaVB4tubKffVQsfizpI- smtp107.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Mar 2013 20:19:21 -0700 PDT From: "Rocky Entriken" To: "Bud R" , "Friends of triumph" References: <36E9C90C-7EB4-48CC-A2E3-7F6A75BFCE66@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 22:20:11 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Alloy Race Wheels Spitfire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net About two years ago when I needed wheels for my HP Spitfire I got some Panasports through Spruell Motorsports (www.spruellmotorsport.com -- 800-552-2532). Don't worry that their website at the moment doesn't show any 13" wheels under Triumph. Call 'em up, tell 'em what you need. They'll order direct from Panasport. I was in a big hurry, so they put me in contact with the Panasport guy and I ordered them direct from him, but he only sells through dealers so I did the sale through Spruell. In my case -- because I was in a rush -- the Panasport guy had wheels on the shelf with 4" backspace, so I bought them and he drilled them for the Spitfire bolt circle and my stud size. Then I had a local machine shop make me spacers. And they use regular lugnuts. If you have the time, you can get them with the right backspacing and setup. Spruell and Panasport both worked to take care of me with the speed I needed at the time. It was much appreciated. --Rocky Entriken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud R" To: "Friends of triumph" Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 3:30 PM Subject: [Fot] Alloy Race Wheels Spitfire > List, > > I'm looking for a set of 13 x 6 inch alloy race wheels for my Spitfire > (4" x 3.75" (95.25mm). I need two with zero offset and two with - > 0.75 inch offset. > > So far the only 13 x 6 inch wheels I've found are made by Revolution > in the UK which means lots of shipping costs, etc.. > > Does anyone know of a US source? I called about some VTO wheels at the > Acme Speed Shop in South Carolina and haven't heard back from them but > they only list 5.5 inch and not any 6 inch in 13 inch diameter wheels > on their website so I'm not sure about availability. > > Thanks > Bud Rolofson > > Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) > 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle > 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rocky@spitfire4.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 21 09:52:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8CC8403E7 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 09:52:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f177.google.com (mail-ia0-f177.google.com [209.85.210.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4EBE40382 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 09:51:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ia0-f177.google.com with SMTP id y25so2606815iay.22 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 08:50:07 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=RJGSjURbglaikAxhRx+xu2OLKH8qy48K7wL4Zg/vVTc=; b=ikFvqNEFR6uZeVb4ItbEx161FYnVQqpatsoY7cE8wqjWyPJcAKXLd4aRcswvuW0Wgk 14lIlLJL91mYavX4WCnF1v9QMnO0TpITmjyD+BE/WiIXr93waHfeDUZUiuAI/USBlD+B LyN++hgYi45IKahFcC/cGr9h74lRLbo5LgW0a/EkXZuCpNJ3VD/pcOBwQTTHWH7Jb5AB y7Tm3gHEGjV8kpjJRUdIS6QQ6Nf0weSmwY9R+2TNmaMRRPFQSZQnK70HHSVQuT4iNWJR YI1PvOXBpoE8/iNh2wA5ImyriYLkcJpBrEO+1krxNgo1MKgFeOscY4licp2QPJDF8k6p nvGw== b18mr2560077igp.82.1363881007136; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 08:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.134.202 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 08:49:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Marshall Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:49:27 -0400 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] VIR reminder Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net There's still plenty of time to get make your plans for the upcoming weekend at VIR (April 12-14) . Already there are 13 Triumphs registered and include many of the biggest names in Triumph vintage racing, such as Tony, Henry, Bob, Mark, Charles, Jesse, David, Tim, Rob, Leo and others. If you're coming, please make sure to join us at the Triumph Ghetto on Friday evening for our cookout. All Triumph drivers, crews and hangers-on are most welcome. For event information and to register go to the VDCA website at www.vintagedrive.com. This is always a tremendous event with huge amounts of track time at one of the world's best racing venues. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 21 13:28:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0911403F4 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:28:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm34-vm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (unknown [98.136.216.141]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CAB040325 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:52:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.137.12.56] by nm34.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Mar 2013 18:50:46 -0000 Received: from [98.136.185.207] by tm1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Mar 2013 18:50:45 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp116-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Mar 2013 18:50:45 -0000 s=s1024; t=1363805445; bh=4MX2dLz+Ke72+mIdYQBl7LKGp+i75G7/+3uIO+w9Ryc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=PIoBcjhJAGmTuzk1ClW8VIvNsUU4Nmg7coIWVUnBH3HK3UoeHP42ZGtWIpbd3qPxitHh6yDb+6WaA5AzM7mkQJaC6bEv1KZJzDB10p3Fnb+lqMO+vFamIk7g3J+sAoHmZnYRCOtnLASoUcWAPSR/uFP7gTtZ+DtsF484/mmkw5k= YPuvHeiQu_72sAa6Jw.4eao3XzVnFH_170e9uRAgqgo6nOYWP6T5BRaleS5y UOtTrxbgf1H04rptlLt5zIsLV2zWR3gZeB7xy5VDaKcEk5jnbqU3nJnBg6Hg eU4nnXpnEQAKJPrqqQglKc5r9sm0UFXwBcvRbVshCPV4tQ9YvsfUrWKkgTDT U5Yx8lWR.KGy.Pm_5gGpbqUPNbk.XS6lcN7zWFw3AZaRbFqrUeV37hUHA9eB b1ClSk00z4hMZXEZXzpF.z9Zb_qIpH90awIKjb18P3b205VnJPf4KouiYfKl d2UsFoQV2d_JnNTu30cGTmq3iJbQz8trppxZNJHVRFR8oaxY1OnEQIBqPuux 61oIEoZGGMiMV9EIBY9ocICOO8oXxNbuPE8VPzQoKKQwucgVs5.t15r805Be JFRaQOZ.k7C7_qmb1UXJZvy.k6g.NwoUfmeb6eS8- with xymcookie) by smtp116-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Mar 2013 11:50:45 -0700 PDT References: <1363721404.22306.androidMobile@web160903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:50:44 -0600 To: Mike Mehl Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] cooling Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I am going to run this setup and add an elevated fill tank (see black tank in the pic) off of a TVR. Ty [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image.jpeg] Sent from my iPad (Please excuse any errors or typos) On Mar 19, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Mike Mehl wrote: > I run a very similar set up. > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tylerpthompson@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 21 13:29:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A75840537 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:29:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mailrtr02.ntelos.net (mailrtr02.ntelos.net [216.12.0.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82104403D3 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 05:56:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from webmail.ntelos.net (webmail.lumos.net [209.145.64.96]) by mailrtr02.ntelos.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id r2LBtAxt015062; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:55:10 GMT Received: from d-128-234-204.bootp.Virginia.EDU (d-128-234-204.bootp.Virginia.EDU [128.143.234.204]) by webmail.ntelos.net with HTTP (SquirrelMail authenticated user rjl6n@cstone.net); Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:55:10 -0400 References: <36E9C90C-7EB4-48CC-A2E3-7F6A75BFCE66@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:55:10 -0400 From: "R. John Lye" To: "Rocky Entriken" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 Cc: Friends of triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Alloy Race Wheels Spitfire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Many years ago, when I bought Panasports for my GT-6, I bought them from Spruell Motorsports and I can attest to their good customer service. John On Wed, March 20, 2013 11:20 pm, Rocky Entriken wrote: > About two years ago when I needed wheels for my HP Spitfire I got some > Panasports through Spruell Motorsports (www.spruellmotorsport.com -- > 800-552-2532). > > Don't worry that their website at the moment doesn't show any 13" wheels > under Triumph. Call 'em up, tell 'em what you need. They'll order direct > from Panasport. I was in a big hurry, so they put me in contact with the > Panasport guy and I ordered them direct from him, but he only sells > through > dealers so I did the sale through Spruell. > > In my case -- because I was in a rush -- the Panasport guy had wheels on > the > shelf with 4" backspace, so I bought them and he drilled them for the > Spitfire bolt circle and my stud size. Then I had a local machine shop > make > me spacers. And they use regular lugnuts. > > If you have the time, you can get them with the right backspacing and > setup. > Spruell and Panasport both worked to take care of me with the speed I > needed > at the time. It was much appreciated. > > --Rocky Entriken > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bud R" > To: "Friends of triumph" > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 3:30 PM > Subject: [Fot] Alloy Race Wheels Spitfire > > >> List, >> >> I'm looking for a set of 13 x 6 inch alloy race wheels for my Spitfire >> (4" x 3.75" (95.25mm). I need two with zero offset and two with - >> 0.75 inch offset. >> >> So far the only 13 x 6 inch wheels I've found are made by Revolution >> in the UK which means lots of shipping costs, etc.. >> >> Does anyone know of a US source? I called about some VTO wheels at the >> Acme Speed Shop in South Carolina and haven't heard back from them but >> they only list 5.5 inch and not any 6 inch in 13 inch diameter wheels >> on their website so I'm not sure about availability. >> >> Thanks >> Bud Rolofson >> >> Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) >> 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 >> 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) >> 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle >> 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rocky@spitfire4.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 21 14:22:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E8C4044D for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 14:22:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5504003E for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 14:17:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.20]) by qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id EJ4f1l0030S2fkCADLFGzj; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:15:16 +0000 Received: from sz0063.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ELDG1l0032yr1eL8VLDGCr; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:13:16 +0000 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:13:15 +0000 (UTC) From: vintage.racer@comcast.net To: Friends of Triumph s=q20121106; t=1363896916; bh=xlWjUPl1G/XKZwTByeU+ul2dMRxpw+XAgw56haTX7hQ=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=Swtv2g/DhwjSr6Hs43ji+5WGgbqk23FdozRh8SrnEYw3EQW7gVmEBcO6xBfuikh9M p3UVxHUESoq64RlGX8K3OYNuXvHVxBdcamkPd5kTlNaaB4wUQRWXJpCMoPpB9zCLSg SfkTyGUAI7Nl7RYVRzFv9k/ZjUl1o/iXwV725tppa7ywmjhMy4urdT2UVqkg6NBkKm 2a1nvCFd3OTKQYXG0/vQkbdFJRr6gVlg0Tnk5RT8YhYm8utkrDOhu7u1po7N5BT3Rq Xpejz2ToB3ourddG+Qe1Da8okdHsuAS4c8R7oNSSHfhP/eheJxjt0aH1UglLolJEUU 2WBFVC+SdNeGg== Subject: [Fot] Great Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It's not a Triumph but it is a British Car in this great video from 1956. Mike Hawthorn in a D-type takes a lap of LeMans while providing real-time narration. Check out the pedestrian traffic! Excellent video quality so go full screen with sound. http://vimeo.com/59410466#at=0 Gary _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 21 16:27:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979ED4053F for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:27:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from tr.ccfot.com (wsip-98-174-80-205.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096054003F for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:21:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F617A4C091 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 18:19:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tr.ccfot.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tr.ccfot.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xD7z2oODOI4L for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 18:19:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from HENRYPRECISION (wsip-98-174-80-202.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.202]) (Authenticated sender: yellow04@tr4racer.com) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C4B45A4C087 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 18:19:42 -0400 (EDT) From: To: "Friends of triumph" References: <36E9C90C-7EB4-48CC-A2E3-7F6A75BFCE66@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 18:19:43 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] Alloy Race Wheels Spitfire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I am surprised nobody commented on Bud's mention of VTO wheels. I was under the impression these were not really suitable for race use. Has opinion on these wheels changed? Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud R" Subject: [Fot] Alloy Race Wheels Spitfire > Does anyone know of a US source? I called about some VTO wheels at the > Acme Speed Shop in South Carolina _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 21 19:45:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A694043F for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 19:45:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF65C4041A for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 19:43:42 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=eiJRm6rqGn8EJvXxHSdv4Q==:17 a=IYbAqjljJL4A:10 a=wSenKe7rVaYA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=0k4OMAnfUzgA:10 a=879b_Iw0AAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=0du04sjd7UqFbgrMlssA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=1QNhSFbQkrsA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=eiJRm6rqGn8EJvXxHSdv4Q==:117 Received: from [70.112.152.241] ([70.112.152.241:55094] helo=[192.168.2.6]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 47/1E-25887-3E6BB415; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 01:41:55 +0000 References: <36E9C90C-7EB4-48CC-A2E3-7F6A75BFCE66@comcast.net> <21DA700BECB84AEF843F47981E178C5B@TRIUMPH.local> From: Bob Kramer Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:41:54 -0500 To: "" Cc: Friends of triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Alloy Race Wheels Spitfire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've been racing on VTO provided Superlite 8 spokes for 8 years , no problems. Bob Kramer Sent from my iPhone On Mar 21, 2013, at 5:19 PM, wrote: > I am surprised nobody commented on Bud's mention of VTO wheels. I was under > the impression these were not really suitable for race use. Has opinion on > these wheels changed? > > Henry > yellow04@tr4racer.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bud R" > Subject: [Fot] Alloy Race Wheels Spitfire > > >> Does anyone know of a US source? I called about some VTO wheels at the >> Acme Speed Shop in South Carolina > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 21 20:19:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA1E40572 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:19:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail201c2.megamailservers.com (mail201c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDB04042A for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:19:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.243.224.15] (27.sub-174-228-4.myvzw.com [174.228.4.27]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail201c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r2M2GiKf025288 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 22:16:47 -0400 References: <514B9C5D.5060206@verizon.net> From: John Hasty Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 22:16:41 -0400 To: "Triumph 'Friends of Triumph" a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=smxZDOy5wLRyH3SfmMoRSg==:17 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=wjr6u0xZAAAA:8 a=GQQCzlO-fkUDz3dGqycA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=pRJGcCm6sOkA:10 a=0l8ERs1SUZVDfKEgztMA:9 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=YknJDSReIaSurCMc:21 a=_6CHgzH9GszewqZEFAAA:9 a=KQqxNPgzF0kA:10 a=6TRKT4wER0qN3M3e:18 a=t7gyO0LpT2aOLe0P8oAA:9 a=9Xv9DQMlQgOEZ1sG:18 a=T8x5aCWDgx-iZ2ovOioA:9 a=5TU714eJtGkYOJXp:21 a=AG1j9QMnXWz7Jgj9:21 a=eoJLSzeMSCGFwlFT:18 a=tnkzR73hN94OzFMMJRcA:9 a=jfGeccIKQkLOkH_L:18 a=smxZDOy5wLRyH3SfmMoRSg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Handmade Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Not TR, but interesting Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Bob Perkins > Date: March 21, 2013, 7:48:45 PM EDT > To: Ed Youngblood , John Hasty > Subject: Fwd: Handmade > > I think you have seen this one before, but here again....enjoy.... > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Handmade > Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:39:35 -0500 > From: stanley baldwin > To: undisclosed-recipients:; > > Slowly scroll your way through the images, what do you think they're building? > 1 > > 2 > > 3 > > 4 > > 5 > > 6 > > 7 > > 8 > > 9 > > 10 > > 11 > > 12 > > 13 > > 14 > > 15 > > 16 > > 17 > > 18 > > 19 > > 20 > > 21 > > 22 > > 23 > > There are craftsmen...and there are Craftsmen !! > > The Morgan Motor Company located in Britain doesn't change in a changing world.C Not only is it still independent, but it also makes each car by hand. A base model is > about $44,000, with some cars costing up to $300,000. > > People wait for over a year to get their exclusive hand-built cars with the shell made out of metal and much of the vehicle made out of wood. Working on the wood interior, > workers use metal shears to individually shape a hood because each car has to be different. > > Every year Morgan produces about 600 cars. The company celebrated its 100th anniversary in 2011. It has a long and interesting history, and is still run by the same > family: the MorganC"s. Founded by Henry Frederick Stanley Morgan known as "HFS", it was then run by his son Peter, and is now run by Charles, the son of Peter Morgan. > > > C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 21 21:18:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC46C40E20 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 21:18:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820484041A for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 21:12:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C8C7A04DC for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 21:12:27 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 21:12:27 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16 To: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph References: <514B9C5D.5060206@verizon.net> <8B97F9A4-DE7A-4CD7-8706-F393D48D53D8@gdhs.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Handmade Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The email lists are old school, no pictures and such. The forums [ link below ] do allow attachments. There isn't an FOT specific forum. Sometimes I do think that it may be useful to drop the mailing list and set up a forum on fot-racing.com. You could post pics on the Triumph forum, email the list a link to it. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 22 04:59:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B434406AD for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 04:59:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from tr.ccfot.com (wsip-98-174-80-205.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3DA240528 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 04:55:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1862FA4C092; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 06:53:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tr.ccfot.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tr.ccfot.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q9X2AjTEyAz1; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 06:53:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from HENRYPRECISION (wsip-98-174-80-202.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.202]) (Authenticated sender: yellow04@tr4racer.com) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A0D61A4C087; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 06:53:58 -0400 (EDT) From: To: "Bob Kramer" References: <36E9C90C-7EB4-48CC-A2E3-7F6A75BFCE66@comcast.net> <21DA700BECB84AEF843F47981E178C5B@TRIUMPH.local> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 06:53:59 -0400 Cc: Friends of triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Alloy Race Wheels Spitfire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bob, I was under the impression that VTO imported the Superlite line, they have been around for years and I know a couple of racers on them. As I understand it, they were priced about the same as the usual suspects, and are a good wheel. I didn't think that wheel was stiill available. Do your wheels have "VTO" cast into the rim? The Superlites I am thinking of do not. I seem to remember VTO launched it's current line of wheels a couple years back, and they were at that time offered at a price point significantly better than the usual suspects. These wheels are easily identified by the letters "VTO" cast into the rim. I saw a couple cars at car shows on these new wheels, and to me, the wheel did not look all that substantial. I thought I remembered a conversation about these wheels here on the FOT list, but an archive search turned up nothing. I just did a Google search, and it appears the MG racers are using them in hoards, with no apparent calamities. Not sure it any of the fast MG guys are running them, though. Anyway, it appears I stand corrected... YMMV Henry - a believer that you get what you pay for ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Kramer" Subject: Re: [Fot] Alloy Race Wheels Spitfire I've been racing on VTO provided Superlite 8 spokes for 8 years , no problems. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 22 07:10:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D4B42577 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:10:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f177.google.com (mail-pd0-f177.google.com [209.85.192.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C7B14053D for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:10:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f177.google.com with SMTP id y14so1570377pdi.8 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 06:08:43 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zAmlZLt9kto+59JhbVLt6mT6MQ1NkEhAGoApseDM5OQ=; b=tjzwd3J4xioV/UA97UQY8kMcvUf2Xjr5zJBk47dzEiCZqvxC1iJwByJBAPOHtAWoV7 T8s+AlnYXxPaBieENjZX5Kb1lva+4SFcjgbPe4Mt79bGf2SL0plhYpHPLXlhfKRe6jRk IDrXpDlVaUKXDZRNWLDgl9bQIadSXQa/QjhFJ88dvAdpKa2+aD9u3RA5jqOxeYme63Je kVfSjum1pguL7aEHzaiG0bKoogsZox1hvsTZ79mxZrvKeMMfU7bDS2K0fpkekKe5326B Cuhh6mQHDm2KTKQrYnqkybguGNneqdrYTw2iw3azyAwSyKqRwFhpjKaGYV8rUjwqhD5u Bk2g== gf10mr2503158pbc.149.1363957723355; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 06:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-47-34.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.47.34]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id tm1sm2373991pbc.11.2013.03.22.06.08.40 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 22 Mar 2013 06:08:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 06:08:36 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <514B9C5D.5060206@verizon.net> <8B97F9A4-DE7A-4CD7-8706-F393D48D53D8@gdhs.com> <514BCC1B.20308@bradakis.com> Subject: [Fot] mail lists Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 3/21/13 8:12 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > The email lists are old school, no pictures and such. I belong to 2 different email lists on google groups and they both allow attachments such as pictures. so we share jpegs whenever appropriate. Maybe it is time to retire the server and move over to google groups? It would give you more time to work on the Spit. Personally I prefer to have emails arrive at my computer than to go to a forum and try to find different current threads. TeriAnn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 22 08:22:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3DB54043F for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 08:22:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm22.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm22.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E79940323 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 08:16:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.153] by nm22.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2013 14:14:21 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.239] by tm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2013 14:14:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1048.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2013 14:14:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 54001 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Mar 2013 14:14:21 -0000 s=s1024; t=1363961661; bh=suC7nBWcp102OTccONNrafFpAWXz//QyCYx9jyWrhZc=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2yMEdt8ukjSfuTMi7jcy6eKrHIy90Msr34CfM4PmimqIc9IwBp3OVnyssrs6KR6T1rCO5sxdo3msN4eJmJn8NvHZU7u/p06+j1cypdwX1L/MPsr7wRspRsssoXV7e36uELEpYvcIbhHcTF80/QyEWl55f7yXUicVFQYqcMGNL0Y= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qDjhBFfhEBq2IoTfTZ81R56HYMt1KAFoOiJGZNbgpYDlD4aSpNjBuzks/n6LBzx94WwyFDSypAJwjq7bpMZ04T+voFTL4lwQR90PkuymEWKEXfP8rY/bTFR7dsYfUbzkAdVG7zoiywv14JxwXZRJkDeXcEXjya6n8rW9mPBkaOE=; Re3XEL1b8gKy2RDhjHMWIEDfBuzuK5_xv3dABLwjPHy360zI31XlFJ1Oq5Cj BOXUhr8oSiXAsvAlWlAl6XCRFDWJqllleeN._9ISuqRlMlKT4MnQt4Gsd9Aa 5fEVM6BAtsZbI5swpk1d1sxpOvgfycabsQE3ZXK8PgbYs5fV5fErzxP9wT2l t0AdusbQo2H0X_mrhAQIn.wfOpyDOm.H77NNED_f_CzOhNQfS5THb6hDzL5s nxgIlUWhfVpzfwvLn9FGvJ1kEufxzOEDEY1JQtVJ59ntRlu5ep2LFEv45.Ok oJjnJlrnKeNlavaOfKalP52IVTttSWf0I0lLSSRB8b.cmguGr.WYr3JKcoeF 4XWWcBkUx8y3zoRcWamoHd16NyoGPlVuomQgsDqMIAuPBmyLXXi0_6kiTrYM 3Y6MeVlFlJMLarSGbhvmrRgur Received: from [75.105.247.167] by web162506.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:14:21 PDT wqAgwqAgSSBoYXZlIGJlZW4gYXdheSBmb3IgYXdoaWxlIGJ1dCB3b3VsZCBsaWtlIHRoYW5rIGV2ZXJ5b25lIGZvciB0aGUgZmVlZGJhY2sKb24gY29vbGluZyBwbHVtYmluZy4KCsKgIMKgIEp1c3QgdGhlIHdyZW5jaArCoCDCoCBKb2huIFdhZ25lciDCoAEwAQEBAQ-- Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:14:21 -0700 (PDT) From: John Wagner To: "Fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] cooling Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have been away for awhile but would like thank everyone for the feedback on cooling plumbing. Just the wrench John Wagner _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 22 11:32:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB52B406AD for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 11:32:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail168c2.megamailservers.com (mail168c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CEA5403C5 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 15:07:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.243.224.15] (27.sub-174-228-4.myvzw.com [174.228.4.27]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail168c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r2LL5d1Y024576 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 21 Mar 2013 17:05:41 -0400 References: <36E9C90C-7EB4-48CC-A2E3-7F6A75BFCE66@comcast.net> <808948ed84f2df903119bafd4dabc905.squirrel@webmail.ntelos.net> From: John Hasty Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 17:05:37 -0400 To: "R. John Lye" a=wSenKe7rVaYA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=smxZDOy5wLRyH3SfmMoRSg==:17 a=QEps4B0vAAAA:8 a=yP_zQwBdAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=xFKyJiilAAAA:8 a=nq_iPTBNAAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=R-0KiLXjUeiGjtLfdu8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=dCFLttmpgyQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=J1--mjHvEgEA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=o6OwA3o9ZFcA:10 a=TQdRxR6nyrkA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=drGJ2U8OC4eJfu8c:21 a=JZYud-Y4F6x4GFxF:21 a=smxZDOy5wLRyH3SfmMoRSg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: Friends of triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Alloy Race Wheels Spitfire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Same experience for me as well Sent from my iPhone On Mar 21, 2013, at 7:55 AM, "R. John Lye" wrote: > Many years ago, when I bought Panasports for my GT-6, I > bought them from Spruell Motorsports and I can attest to > their good customer service. > > John > > On Wed, March 20, 2013 11:20 pm, Rocky Entriken wrote: >> About two years ago when I needed wheels for my HP Spitfire I got some >> Panasports through Spruell Motorsports (www.spruellmotorsport.com -- >> 800-552-2532). >> >> Don't worry that their website at the moment doesn't show any 13" wheels >> under Triumph. Call 'em up, tell 'em what you need. They'll order direct >> from Panasport. I was in a big hurry, so they put me in contact with the >> Panasport guy and I ordered them direct from him, but he only sells >> through >> dealers so I did the sale through Spruell. >> >> In my case -- because I was in a rush -- the Panasport guy had wheels on >> the >> shelf with 4" backspace, so I bought them and he drilled them for the >> Spitfire bolt circle and my stud size. Then I had a local machine shop >> make >> me spacers. And they use regular lugnuts. >> >> If you have the time, you can get them with the right backspacing and >> setup. >> Spruell and Panasport both worked to take care of me with the speed I >> needed >> at the time. It was much appreciated. >> >> --Rocky Entriken >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bud R" >> To: "Friends of triumph" >> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 3:30 PM >> Subject: [Fot] Alloy Race Wheels Spitfire >> >> >>> List, >>> >>> I'm looking for a set of 13 x 6 inch alloy race wheels for my Spitfire >>> (4" x 3.75" (95.25mm). I need two with zero offset and two with - >>> 0.75 inch offset. >>> >>> So far the only 13 x 6 inch wheels I've found are made by Revolution >>> in the UK which means lots of shipping costs, etc.. >>> >>> Does anyone know of a US source? I called about some VTO wheels at the >>> Acme Speed Shop in South Carolina and haven't heard back from them but >>> they only list 5.5 inch and not any 6 inch in 13 inch diameter wheels >>> on their website so I'm not sure about availability. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Bud Rolofson >>> >>> Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) >>> 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 >>> 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) >>> 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle >>> 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rocky@spitfire4.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 22 11:33:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29CB14284F for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 11:33:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm38-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm38-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.22]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD15440420 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:11:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.149] by nm38.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2013 02:09:13 -0000 Received: from [98.139.213.6] by tm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2013 02:09:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp106.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2013 02:09:13 -0000 s=s1024; t=1363918153; bh=lS4JfIt7huRd9ed1W9qSR4CapmDsY2dSmPaugPhybLg=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Message-ID:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:MIME-Version:To:Cc:From:Subject:Date:Content-Type; b=zNJZXBR+31Gcibrq1uJqsMDbo7NzlPyhfodNuOTtJq8Q0ar8NbcZ7jmRMcUDUZulX8OJW9ToRpVbgKzVuQsiPU+dDHvx9HBInyx1odR7C80qhyt1zxLquYnEOQigLld1GH6KsvOAek9wOmlk+tALottEp5UVnGfheuwhLHrAi9E= 1BT5a.WwsXzOfI0pJh4oR4cVvXxBuDX_Mh5mCPHFPxhJzNVUJHLarluWXA1I o_5Iar9K8Lg654A8m_olO9MnC8lq_nQlNbpGYMsxD4jU21d1TrV83focQZ0I 0XYgIU3fXDkguQZupbvz4hoTjVxBlJCj0Lkb.mqAzB7fO1ucGs6AgUUhk.bt f423apcoEhmJfDqAcd7QqzFU6qxSQ5tV1UBhpbZoOV10jhPTWkxpLfgcXBzz CT9vCmZT.rMHOJJPy32w1a8HWTKki7BdsQvAcSSrqa07QgLrJavFm7HUhOeO IqhU6ql1RVJocjNOziyWLuKrsTiWYGiNk8qPB6hvQTh.kV4uMpbge0GsYQT0 WFWiswcVCDDAIikaMTsCfHrcOV2nGa1YKGMdbRzMgrSj6i3SCpKY.P.Y7.n3 eGFzaqYQeVj2achovVBsmthEOKgJvayujkpmWGClfYTYdAiCMYWvCWahBTHT z.dYNbWOk801npnYD0seQRc08gcAzm23gho9x1g-- login) by smtp106.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Mar 2013 19:09:13 -0700 PDT To: Bob Kramer , "" From: Dennis DeLap Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 21:08:38 -0500 Cc: Friends of triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Alloy Race Wheels Spitfire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ditto! -----Original Message----- From: "Bob Kramer" Sent: b3/b21/b2013 8:43 PM To: "" Cc: "Friends of triumph" Subject: Re: [Fot] Alloy Race Wheels Spitfire I've been racing on VTO provided Superlite 8 spokes for 8 years , no problems. Bob Kramer Sent from my iPhone On Mar 21, 2013, at 5:19 PM, wrote: > I am surprised nobody commented on Bud's mention of VTO wheels. I was under > the impression these were not really suitable for race use. Has opinion on > these wheels changed? > > Henry > yellow04@tr4racer.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bud R" > Subject: [Fot] Alloy Race Wheels Spitfire > > >> Does anyone know of a US source? I called about some VTO wheels at the >> Acme Speed Shop in South Carolina > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 22 12:00:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E81EB40E45 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:00:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.63]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101B84042B for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 11:59:59 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=ctXUxqfCdDiHVhhZNeMVyhFzAXP6yfx7Nf9/YnJdaleBICmFHYLonDE7lljnB7Od; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.52] (helo=mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1UJ6ED-000730-NN for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:58:09 -0500 Received: from 108.64.186.7 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 13:58:09 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:58:09 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: steve To: FOT Subject: [Fot] SVRA West Willow Springs Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Here are some highlights from my in-car TR3 video last weekend battling Porsche 914's http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSp5winf3fY&feature=share ~Steve _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 22 12:25:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE5CE424B2 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:25:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49BB54032B for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:25:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.98.85] (c-69-249-204-30.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [69.249.204.30]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MK2000L4R2UZP00@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 18:23:25 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-03-22_04:2013-03-22,2013-03-22,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1302030000 definitions=main-1303220139 From: Scott Janzen Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 14:23:17 -0400 References: <8A418BB1-4E46-4F5E-B137-94F84BEF1207@me.com> To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] SVRA West Willow Springs Video and 1989 run-offs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net so, watched Steve's video and another one caught my eye - 1989 runoffs with Jack Wheeler in a TR4 battling it out for 3rd place (ended up in fourth). Some really nice footage and great racing! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Naa17-HtsQ&feature=endscreen _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 22 14:31:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B9242586 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 14:31:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from ex.dunnwalshholdings.com (ex.dunnwalshholdings.com [173.219.117.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA3B40E5F for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 14:31:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::6cea:93a1:26a:8c3c]) by TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::6cea:93a1:26a:8c3c%15]) with mapi; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 13:29:30 -0700 From: Edward Dunn To: "fot@autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 13:29:28 -0700 Thread-Topic: [Fot] mail lists Thread-Index: Ac4m/mbBFf2/Z4S/RWOztjGCphEaFwAPVZqg References: <514B9C5D.5060206@verizon.net> <8B97F9A4-DE7A-4CD7-8706-F393D48D53D8@gdhs.com> <514BCC1B.20308@bradakis.com> <514C57D4.2070302@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: Re: [Fot] mail lists Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Forum style for me. Edward Dunn 1971 GT6 #757 1964 Soitfire #22 West coast Vintage Racing 2240 Encinitas Blvd., Suite D-101 Encinitas, CA 92024 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 6:09 AM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] mail lists On 3/21/13 8:12 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > The email lists are old school, no pictures and such. I belong to 2 different email lists on google groups and they both allow attachments such as pictures. so we share jpegs whenever appropriate. Maybe it is time to retire the server and move over to google groups? It would give you more time to work on the Spit. Personally I prefer to have emails arrive at my computer than to go to a forum and try to find different current threads. TeriAnn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 22 15:15:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5FD42565 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 15:15:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail168c2.megamailservers.com (mail168c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05FCA40EE2 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 15:09:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.236.38.181] (53.sub-174-228-64.myvzw.com [174.228.64.53]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail168c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r2ML7lVk031707 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 22 Mar 2013 17:07:51 -0400 References: <514B9C5D.5060206@verizon.net> <8B97F9A4-DE7A-4CD7-8706-F393D48D53D8@gdhs.com> <514BCC1B.20308@bradakis.com> <514C57D4.2070302@gmail.com> <36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB01F417AF3306@TITAN.dwholdings.local> From: John Hasty Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 17:07:46 -0400 To: Edward Dunn a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=BPLY07xIkJpteFHuTfpB9g==:17 a=BvJzy2JUAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=ACOXw4ZNUBfRDtHIQv0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=Hr8wNfR8-B0A:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=URWnOduuJBjtmYEZ:21 a=kM7-w63C0iCNpNra:21 a=BPLY07xIkJpteFHuTfpB9g==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] mail lists Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net For those of us who are IT challenged, the site is just fine. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Edward Dunn wrote: > Forum style for me. > > Edward Dunn > 1971 GT6 #757 > 1964 Soitfire #22 > > West coast Vintage Racing > 2240 Encinitas Blvd., Suite D-101 > Encinitas, CA 92024 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 6:09 AM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] mail lists > > On 3/21/13 8:12 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: >> The email lists are old school, no pictures and such. > I belong to 2 different email lists on google groups and they both allow > attachments such as pictures. so we share jpegs whenever appropriate. > Maybe it is time to retire the server and move over to google groups? > It would give you more time to work on the Spit. > > Personally I prefer to have emails arrive at my computer than to go to a forum > and try to find different current threads. > > TeriAnn > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 22 16:31:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5FCB42836 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 16:31:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 063694226E for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 16:30:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([unknown] [71.171.30.157]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MK300AX42FJJW01@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 17:28:36 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 18:28:31 -0400 From: "J.C. Hassall" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100722 Eudora/3.0.4 To: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] mail lists Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 3/22/2013 9:08 AM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > Personally I prefer to have emails arrive at my computer than to go to a > forum and try to find different current threads. > > TeriAnn > _______________________________________________ > I agree, I'd much rather have our current setup. That's why I click the Donate link from time to time. jim -- Jim Hassall Blacksburg VA '63 TR4 in autox preparation 99% finished, 90% to go _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 22 17:02:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1FB0424D7 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 17:02:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9478B40544 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 16:59:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.74]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id EgxD1l0041bwxycABmxG1S; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 22:57:16 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id EmxF1l00K2vctGa8emxFiN; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 22:57:16 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "'J.C. Hassall'" , "'fot'" References: <514CDB0F.9080704@blacksburg.net> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 15:57:15 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac4nTMss9oR5w9AsTHmQZwBjjsjt2gAA7xjg Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1363993036; bh=3CtkRn32RWFXz0DzhPPrinieFb3eW4K9dnxZvdgfo5o=; h=Received:Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NJHYw85E0YCL7ltr6d61yFhFp6A0rDJvBb8yq/gbNRHYs1mxSDycrhBiPW2n/ND7g /2ZLzrZACjjboz/o436w1MGzXeoKB6St7B4N8+0U9n8VuYhr3KthjKTnVbEzyOJV1b i+LL+lb03PHoPWWuDqG/JG+LtYHpTdoTxLDY07psQyFcygNCPQtQcR7HAzxhTk5G9c iZk/HW28wZ44qKNbGDdvx73qDurLeCEp34uf005xc2C+pFm858HDU1ZLCSgdJlivX/ 6jJxkZP2jPzKdUGm/9Qea9LSDT7ON5BzJGzSDjL1Robx9uEzlesczEyFzp/PZkWUdt 6IApdVcAR0C5g== Subject: Re: [Fot] mail lists Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I like the current setup too Racer Bud -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of J.C. Hassall Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 3:29 PM To: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] mail lists On 3/22/2013 9:08 AM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > Personally I prefer to have emails arrive at my computer than to go to > a forum and try to find different current threads. > > TeriAnn > _______________________________________________ > I agree, I'd much rather have our current setup. That's why I click the Donate link from time to time. jim -- Jim Hassall Blacksburg VA '63 TR4 in autox preparation 99% finished, 90% to go _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 22 18:20:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8DF428A8 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 18:20:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700DB42460 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 18:20:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.200]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B9F8D380000A6; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 20:18:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-muc005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-muc005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.193.209]) by mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 82AB7E000088; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 20:18:49 -0400 (EDT) References: <8A418BB1-4E46-4F5E-B137-94F84BEF1207@me.com> To: sjanzen@me.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d289.sysops.aol.com (205.188.93.227) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 22 Mar 2013 20:18:49 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 20:18:49 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1363997929; bh=rZ0t5ZM/vg34W/IdmJBoxBXz7WCKkY6lyJSxlBx8mvM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=S84lr9MjTVN8co6mNX5BlHDo9/izU+pnalKiKkgtT+g/dUGrMcfizB+y6EDDAUeV/ 6Xk26d/KFcD3Ki28LDbjLR+ocias8jSWtPTtoV+wdZ++HcSgCAlicAKDtRCeMZt4gA 7qj2IMjmdePGrvqumG6vE3PZ0wU4wuea2H95RBjY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c8514cf4e90985 Subject: Re: [Fot] SVRA West Willow Springs Video and 1989 run-offs...now KASTNER CUP 2013 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Scott, I think I see Hardy in there, too. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack Wheeler is planning to drive in and join us at ROAD AMERICA for the KASTNER CUP, once again. Hardy Prentice has been invited. We would really like to see him. Jerry Barker will be with us, of course, as well as Sam Halkias. Running FIVE TRIUMPHS between the two of them. A plethora of TRIUMPH NATIONAL CHAMPS. Am I missing anyone? Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Scott Janzen To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Sent: Fri, Mar 22, 2013 1:23 pm Subject: [Fot] SVRA West Willow Springs Video and 1989 run-offs so, watched Steve's video and another one caught my eye - 1989 runoffs with Jack Wheeler in a TR4 battling it out for 3rd place (ended up in fourth). Some really nice footage and great racing! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Naa17-HtsQ&feature=endscreen _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 23 02:00:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20EAB42912 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 02:00:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm7-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm7-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.151]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id AEF664226E for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 17:37:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.149] by nm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2013 23:35:45 -0000 Received: from [98.139.211.202] by tm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2013 23:35:45 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp211.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2013 23:35:45 -0000 s=s1024; t=1363995345; bh=w0JXakZLgKQ56HzVbE1ohN0938RS8kp/jD52HFEfbIo=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Message-ID:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:MIME-Version:To:From:Subject:Date:Content-Type; b=gLjQ50pYGGIx6jcXnuOGFWT7cxWDlKN8pYm1a+qvXmlfAe+1my70io8otWyQ3Y86RAPgJpldEeCTo8kgj5EsEGwgPQd9AtXFaCWUj96hjZpCkLf/TuuGRtsAik01giuwTDl8JyhQqL30/NoP7DLAdpMi86x/MokA4CsNZ4p7DoQ= lAc26wc8zFmDjgdVRDuIwSqK7TjLAwV0ULvZDtAbRJgpG6LapINJI7WUiYTJ UxSCS3YYOs5WLpzA4xjHPv1OjLKj1uQHbwBQFe1dLJVVNI6.AKZe8RIZKUUM 1soc5SswLQVCt4.yU7Ijge_PjuIanoiZ4GBgOs9g7vFgoYPKULmpe1QSiUKb 630_CU418dZRd52fWu1Guaae59vATlPdpA.Kh6gFOaKAZ5vtuMQq.tZOglTV jSgqv_ecxAsRDjg1ODWE7NiMfSBTmmxACkCqx1RKi9RNapOAxQlOT9uqliGp c2706jpTODZgxd2b4DCXXcAZ.l.YZdJiMxsKeYsOlfzI3zjlVo2EgkYARogN b10V0BERUuy.Frx6lUd7LmfOC2VvFAExZ1KlF1Uxnc3gen_nXdTurEZlAlzd UDQets0Z6AGIYPcbqSiFgQzevUiCd2MZbp2RLPUd3r0MV_hFhSbqGjx_f36v V.PqMqca8EMzJpXY0uuEMvJjyaGk.um2HPwdQcg-- login) by smtp211.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Mar 2013 16:35:45 -0700 PDT To: "budscars@comcast.net" , "'J.C. Hassall'" , 'fot' From: Dennis DeLap Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 18:35:11 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] mail lists Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes! - let's hear it for old school. -----Original Message----- From: "RACER BUD" Sent: b3/b22/b2013 6:00 PM To: "'J.C. Hassall'" ; "'fot'" Subject: Re: [Fot] mail lists I like the current setup too Racer Bud -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of J.C. Hassall Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 3:29 PM To: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] mail lists On 3/22/2013 9:08 AM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > Personally I prefer to have emails arrive at my computer than to go to > a forum and try to find different current threads. > > TeriAnn > _______________________________________________ > I agree, I'd much rather have our current setup. That's why I click the Donate link from time to time. jim -- Jim Hassall Blacksburg VA '63 TR4 in autox preparation 99% finished, 90% to go _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 23 05:55:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E623E40EDA for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 05:55:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from tr.ccfot.com (wsip-98-174-80-205.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1E3A403FC for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 05:55:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66301A4C091 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 07:53:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tr.ccfot.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tr.ccfot.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B0yXru-Hxye6 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 07:53:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from HENRYPRECISION (wsip-98-174-80-202.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.202]) (Authenticated sender: yellow04@tr4racer.com) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C33DFA4C08B for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 07:53:36 -0400 (EDT) From: To: References: <514B9C5D.5060206@verizon.net><8B97F9A4-DE7A-4CD7-8706-F393D48D53D8@gdhs.com><514BCC1B.20308@bradakis.com> <514C57D4.2070302@gmail.com><36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB01F417AF3306@TITAN.dwholdings.local> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 07:53:37 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] mail lists Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Even for those of us who are not IT challenged, the mail list format is preferred! I would probably adapt to checking in on a forum occasionally, but pushing the content into my email means I will look at it when checking my email. Remember Mark Bradakis puts countless hours of his own time into making this all work for us. We all owe this guy, please click the donate button from time to time... Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hasty" Subject: Re: [Fot] mail lists > For those of us who are IT challenged, the site is just fine. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 23 08:10:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B9342563 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 08:10:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm22.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm22.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F764403FC for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 08:04:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.153] by nm22.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Mar 2013 14:02:30 -0000 Received: from [98.139.173.165] by tm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Mar 2013 14:02:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp108-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Mar 2013 14:02:30 -0000 s=s1024; t=1364047350; bh=hyZjGrfypmQDbdj0O6aJEJWMr/UUQkqBl6d65BiyC4A=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=fSRvEkzR61G6tSabdPKDKdwSl+79PwT+PcWFPbwSJqgPLC5LHSMfq0JTKyobo9yaec3GUaQL6m2wGwTe+W+H+Etnh+cMERRk9C9h8HkfX2w3Lf+E6t8u5fEH0Hj7Q+k2qP3Uqh98imeGbclo11dDe9kMM59JExBVwSiYRxoiWA0= oKQr9AhAfNswbsk5XldDrr7vJfg_pHMM2NkFoimLJvLttN4mX373oQfgiA0N UXnhTlYPNInDaEFsFnUyZMphYSRD9HEpod3gv1n_nUmnaak20Ph.E9lYg1pM OSXXwte5zxv_49t0QpbCyHAW5t1WAQ9akkvjxi96oVv7av4BwdxF8c__wVVV wHHXy8WlJBCjLaMK_HgWhcx2EIIpi7aQkwPzc0H32GzpFgySRS1XoLBsa6AV N_yJuq6n_TGPWuvHS_A48OqADHlM_fREv2_QfwcyoFYpIZunk91hnMQcLMtg ZgOHQGUrWKixotPTeM.1.xVWXcTgCmkOFkSRmIFaAHRKvoaqqc8nROcJ24E2 Ux0KIsTo27wnDQDyasDNPL9zyxNRP74vFr8H65kQgy38IXYWgkEWtcsAQsgg _rcOaWR7Uh.Jj3WmcLKEETPStiHOWf4rbKXup55EuYpLRLmPyA0j4ivJw2HO 5kg_h24TNggk.OTU9WURj74O2yukOD6OG8OMLM9XvZ.7iwDhJZVZZfggARwA j7w2abPQyeZWXErYyOx7OFcnC63OhH2ZGOfADjvJ9FtFcaHnagGdDcAY- xymcookie) by smtp108-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Mar 2013 07:02:30 -0700 PDT References: <8A418BB1-4E46-4F5E-B137-94F84BEF1207@me.com> From: Jaxon Racing Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 10:02:28 -0400 To: Scott Janzen Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] SVRA West Willow Springs Video and 1989 run-offs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Those were the good days Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2013, at 2:23 PM, Scott Janzen wrote: > so, watched Steve's video and another one caught my eye - 1989 runoffs with > Jack Wheeler in a TR4 battling it out for 3rd place (ended up in fourth). > Some really nice footage and great racing! > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Naa17-HtsQ&feature=endscreen > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaxonracing@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 23 08:26:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F6942907 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 08:26:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1CB2403FD for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 08:26:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id at1so1956925iec.41 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 07:24:11 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Eorxw5GyFDaw1jNCudsLkQh5pe/amVszOb/g+m16Ldc=; b=znzDz/+9Znf4zP96Qc5QshvBWj1zni/0PSZkDM+mw5+eGUjeWf8Oyi0JCNPhliIIjB MfSNcHS0D8ZaSCHGNpleh6ugU2sANnVn7L7S2Ftx7Xg9Ce1+Y5vhSVHmpheX8yHYbZtF 9/V5ZXAuEfJHYoYQySVhq8rjdJO4sODjAcnGmFv52Y13YSg/4zmx4fbLDwRDsg7sGYnv 8nY6Yym3J06WDek6JIP1QY5lo89/v6OAYtzcMuiR3x7cw0yTN0XdVHLxgKCbfeDvbd0l TuiWmgo37s6wD65MPMxkMmmdccfVrgFF87VbJaK37naMGBhgu7XSPxzoj+tUt5MIwHAs LmMA== Sat, 23 Mar 2013 07:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.1.104] (186.sub-70-194-133.myvzw.com. [70.194.133.186]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y5sm7200134igg.7.2013.03.23.07.24.10 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 23 Mar 2013 07:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 10:24:07 -0400 From: Susan Kahler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] '66 TR4 in eBay Stories Today Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net http://ebay-stories.com/a-66-classic-car-your-ultimate-triumph Pretty cool! Keep Triumphing, Susan :) -- ** Oh, I would just KILL for a Nobel Peace Prize! ** _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 23 08:41:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C1640533 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 08:41:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-da0-f52.google.com (mail-da0-f52.google.com [209.85.210.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C500D403FD for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 08:39:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-da0-f52.google.com with SMTP id f10so2640320dak.11 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 07:37:27 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GU6qyzXMlvYnw0xW89cA4GDM/LeR1vDFnhBgH53SZA8=; b=K4b2q4SI7a+NkZ+FfIywpb2RiMbBguaq38HnTxw2oAD7zySbonZTqxUk/+rXylXc+y E0xh/ao2GytKUIgm0cx/UhLJHSM0ETOsFjWpgUWvmWP56K/CScn6ndkCg5ptRuOTyfuQ HbBYNaeaqkZyB1APbAoYsvgyEZVzYOed3fH37soP7HtetSlPmlQQSiDQBdwq7hU3/JbI 1nzk0Dz33IhQWyI6oDfPVCqC14db9rBIsNPV3sJY71FGb0O36BWmdses/piFCYp1UWRU nw8FTf2DArNP3Xv+8Vc4bhrVTRnkZxkMWj5lr+Mb28VGhrmbxqHaCSHshBi20Oijt/xM SE4w== tl1mr8663965pab.61.1364049446892; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 07:37:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-47-34.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.47.34]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fh1sm7275266pac.1.2013.03.23.07.37.23 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 23 Mar 2013 07:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 07:37:19 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <514B9C5D.5060206@verizon.net><8B97F9A4-DE7A-4CD7-8706-F393D48D53D8@gdhs.com><514BCC1B.20308@bradakis.com> <514C57D4.2070302@gmail.com><36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB01F417AF3306@TITAN.dwholdings.local> Subject: Re: [Fot] mail lists Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 3/23/13 4:53 AM, yellow04@tr4racer.com wrote: > Remember Mark Bradakis puts countless hours of his own time into making this > all work for us. We all owe this guy, That's why I was thinking the mail lists that Mark manages should switch over to being google groups email lists. Having a mail list that Mark didn't need to devote a lot of time and money to just to keep the server and lists going would free him up to do other things. And it would give us the advantage of being able to add pictures to our list emails. TeriAnn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 23 08:42:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CECCA42910 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 08:42:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5944403FD for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 08:39:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 2474F1C000052; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 10:37:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-muc005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-muc005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.193.209]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id DDFABE000081; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 10:37:49 -0400 (EDT) References: <514DBB07.7050409@gmail.com> To: spitfiresuz@gmail.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by Webmail-m109.sysops.aol.com (64.12.232.214) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 23 Mar 2013 10:37:50 -0400 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 10:37:49 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364049470; bh=uj1t8W7JiKDG6gHkBycwlBPUinrMNy7h5eK/QPwfD5E=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TstOKkr+5wZZoYDDjJt3VCtfT5DdgQnNwHrKwVqz3zQcX3WMsVlT5sJ7Nq3ohlWUB tt+B9d3bM2hgjLHPblt45sHh5XMD5i5NaUKqBQ5vLb1rVfgTrwr9kdGcaHbzm4ePhj 67gOgisDzUXsuJAFFK3a+VAdoHR0wWjqu6kIkKOk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb514dbe3d2677 Subject: Re: [Fot] '66 TR4 in eBay Stories Today Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Of course this TR4A is in AMES, IOWA and is owned by our newly minted FOT member. Son Mark called and said there are those in the AIR FORCE community that remember this car very well. This TR4A is identical to the first TR4A this family owned. We'd like to have it, but enuff is enuf. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Susan Kahler To: Friends of Triumph Sent: Sat, Mar 23, 2013 9:25 am Subject: [Fot] '66 TR4 in eBay Stories Today http://ebay-stories.com/a-66-classic-car-your-ultimate-triumph Pretty cool! Keep Triumphing, Susan :) -- ** Oh, I would just KILL for a Nobel Peace Prize! ** _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 23 10:30:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F5E4292F for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 10:30:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C1DD42802 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 10:24:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.195]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 03E4B1C000098 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 12:22:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.194.180.102] (mobile-198-228-226-049.mycingular.net [198.228.226.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 8CDD8E000402 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 12:22:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Bock Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 12:22:27 -0400 To: FoTTriumph x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364055752; bh=ht4At1rXUq4aLR1B3zFWDbXOpaPNucuckE4SB8dOvow=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=ATA6yqfxwUWwxk0ufTEWXgKdSngNBWwpn82a6/6SO6WduzbVOKJHfDK7BX4kfkRej R2V2NhwOlHHclCNClkF93f4qpSDqzGrV8WLSdKKnLyd7X6NU1Rm+qXSOMEoMOd44dC xzsuDV5U63O/0parLoDeO3cEBcB8iPcLhd1jKUx8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c3514dd6c861e6 Subject: [Fot] Non triumph non car but... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have a vintage late 70's soda machine that needs a good home. Needs a few light bulbs. Needs help cooling but I am working on it. Dispenses cans. Holds 50 plus cans. Google vendo v348 soda machine. I have it listed on feebay and a few other places. I have pictures. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 23 15:26:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0545942544 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:26:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81FF740325 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:25:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4732A04DC for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:26:14 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:26:14 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <514B9C5D.5060206@verizon.net><8B97F9A4-DE7A-4CD7-8706-F393D48D53D8@gdhs.com><514BCC1B.20308@bradakis.com> <514C57D4.2070302@gmail.com><36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB01F417AF3306@TITAN.dwholdings.local> Subject: Re: [Fot] mail lists Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net yellow04@tr4racer.com wrote: > Even for those of us who are not IT challenged, the mail list format is > preferred! I would probably adapt to checking in on a forum occasionally, > but pushing the content into my email means I will look at it when checking > my email. > > Remember Mark Bradakis puts countless hours of his own time into making this > all work for us. We all owe this guy, please click the donate button from > time to time... > Thanks for the plug, Henry. I'm several months behind in getting out thank yous to some folks. If folks want to be able to send pictures through this list I can set that up. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 23 16:39:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A27684249F for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 16:39:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357F54032B for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 16:39:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40801A04DC for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 16:40:01 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 16:40:00 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Another note Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Something I changed a while back some of you may have noticed. There was a period when a bunch of yahoo and aol email accounts were getting hijacked and send out spam messages to the list. Usually these types of messages would go out to all the addresses in the victim's address book. What I did was to set the maximum number of recipients to a low number, 3. So if you reply to a list message and there are more than three people listed in the to and cc lines, the message gets held for review. That is one reason you may get an error response from the server, and then have to wait a day or so for me to go through and approve legitimate messages. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 23 16:57:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA5242984 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 16:57:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81054006E for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 16:57:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.3]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B9A911C000045; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 18:55:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.194.180.102] (mobile-198-228-226-049.mycingular.net [198.228.226.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id B2B60E0000B8; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 18:55:37 -0400 (EDT) References: <514E2F40.1020306@bradakis.com> From: Christopher Bock Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 18:55:36 -0400 To: Mark J Bradakis x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364079338; bh=2+md+FQoqen6fHdvwPGC8FX13aguPNqW4ax581ywaU8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=BgDz9paiIKI4+u5rwJN+vu90rCElC7nGxYMDwZBZUOz6BF1RNhrHiOmAldzO+c60d ukA4sfIPmbWBWxOOgAWFEeSbEVVe/Tu6E18b8dBZTtTkSjZ1YpYJpRaut4mmcr/zaS o6f7kj0EPStZWmYFf6rpj8nc4imM7L8BtfcmXZWI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2903514e32e93d92 Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Another note Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thank you for that information. I like the email list. I don't need anymore forums or groups to go to. Chris On Mar 23, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > Something I changed a while back some of you may have noticed. > There was a period when a bunch of yahoo and aol email accounts > were getting hijacked and send out spam messages to the list. > Usually these types of messages would go out to all the addresses > in the victim's address book. What I did was to set the maximum > number of recipients to a low number, 3. So if you reply to a list > message and there are more than three people listed in the to and > cc lines, the message gets held for review. That is one reason you > may get an error response from the server, and then have to wait a day > or so for me to go through and approve legitimate messages. > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 23 17:07:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5657C42984 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 17:07:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D19D403D9 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 17:05:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130323230358.VMUC24708.mta31.charter.net@imp11> for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 19:03:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([66.227.235.90]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id FB3x1l00H1xi4cJ05B3yh5; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 19:03:58 -0400 a=SjuUym14L3tHVHHCmfaQRQ==:17 a=f5b0H3g8muEA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=aI_7co4iWVYA:10 a=k9IzgLeNAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=DyMgSWZyTC8Hl-Qsdr8A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=T1jTriLPLxoA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=OsudKPnM4TnMQz5k:21 a=3Bw36VaXwvBiEXFg:21 a=SjuUym14L3tHVHHCmfaQRQ==:117 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 19:04:02 -0400 From: Glenn Franco User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <514E2F40.1020306@bradakis.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Another note Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I prefer the email list and I get frustrated by some of these forums. Keep it simple Mark Glenn On 3/23/2013 6:55 PM, Christopher Bock wrote: > Thank you for that information. > > I like the email list. I don't need anymore forums or groups to go to. > > Chris > > On Mar 23, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > >> Something I changed a while back some of you may have noticed. >> There was a period when a bunch of yahoo and aol email accounts >> were getting hijacked and send out spam messages to the list. >> Usually these types of messages would go out to all the addresses >> in the victim's address book. What I did was to set the maximum >> number of recipients to a low number, 3. So if you reply to a list >> message and there are more than three people listed in the to and >> cc lines, the message gets held for review. That is one reason you >> may get an error response from the server, and then have to wait a day >> or so for me to go through and approve legitimate messages. >> >> mjb. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gaf3@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 23 17:38:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2EB84296D for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 17:38:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f46.google.com (mail-pa0-f46.google.com [209.85.220.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4320E42920 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 17:34:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id wp1so461861pac.5 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 16:32:14 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=U7h8ZcrAKCT4FXqomvazMGLW+Ps2M6ksURTm6zCJvW0=; b=LzR54INz0nI3wGS+cXEaLfby4O0iN3PG5J1ImiJ1oOAn3x5kH8V2DJifQpNk6k2wG1 31YDTHG+PBwPjESqpprtfwXz74MYr722Cw6P9ee84kiZq9GMUz8YP4WbJbSBHhqG16t+ 0v4a0Xv0aHjmM2CCp1+Wn8fJVW1FHeD3NtltwA4y2idQMOUXmDHql+HzDoE9MfDHMbwl W2FYKcB6mkoV8V6d19mGLIrykq7s54pCOgYXRWgpZj5h+2d/5EQl8q1XN3uR4SExvd2y DG0UmuHuyVlpzdYLBzO0Su8zmXV4wE5+6Qmy8iiac0Scnnrv9BkyFss0zbvhLhy2vytp n7MQ== qk10mr9836829pbb.189.1364081534606; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 16:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.44] (udp235334uds.hawaiiantel.net. [72.234.40.38]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ti8sm7574987pbc.12.2013.03.23.16.32.12 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 23 Mar 2013 16:32:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Babcock Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 13:32:09 -1000 References: <514E2F40.1020306@bradakis.com> To: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Another note Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I belong to a number of forums, and they take a lot more of my time and attention than the FOT mail. There's a zillion ways to send photos or movies--the list accepts links. It's easy to upload a wad of photos to any of the photo or video services and provide a link. Like so: http://www.ponostyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Canyonbot.jpg _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 23 18:24:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 805CA4284B for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 18:24:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com (outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com [64.136.47.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 92D7940E02 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 18:20:05 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1364084288; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=roHZfMyXI9o4NLZFuIo1Kzc6t6uTUVqsPiUyoL+VZsUFeRU52HakVQt4omaXLoDDW WTLeOlr1SYOz3/f1bN+vvY2DoqJYvvD9Ql3++aZFWCFNZe1diTkO+jjCwQYOjcXx5f w6VjFD81xBu5kNq56quwgjcL0UkTGv3oZyFB9/xg= Received: from outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com (webmail09.dca.untd.com [10.171.12.149]) by smtpout01.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABJW6TTXAUUX3EA for (sender ); Sat, 23 Mar 2013 17:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [76.23.185.62] by webmail09.dca.untd.com with HTTP: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 00:16:19 GMT From: "Joe Boruch" Full-Name: "Joe Boruch" Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 00:16:19 GMT To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Head Gasket Coating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have been debating the merits of coating a steel shim head gasket with a Fluoroelastomer (Viton) coating. Cometic gaskets are Viton coated. There are Fluoroelastomer coatings available in aerosol cans. Have any of you tried anything like this? Joe(B) ____________________________________________________________ OVERSTOCK ipads: $30.93 Get 32GB Apple iPad for as low as $30.93. Limit 1.Day. Grab yours Now! _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 05:47:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C964842853 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 05:47:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.wave1.net (unknown [74.219.105.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165D142458 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 05:47:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [74.219.99.56] by mail.wave1.net (ArGoSoft Mail Server .NET v.1.0.8.3) with ESMTP (EHLO mtmPC); Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:56:45 -0500 From: "Mike Moore" To: "'Mark J Bradakis'" , References: <514B9C5D.5060206@verizon.net><8B97F9A4-DE7A-4CD7-8706-F393D48D53D8@gdhs.com><514BCC1B.20308@bradakis.com> <514C57D4.2070302@gmail.com><36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB01F417AF3306@TITAN.dwholdings.local> <514E1DF6.3050406@bradakis.com> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 07:45:27 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4oDmr9ujvvlFfWSs6VkTTSyum+rgAdlZ2w Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] mail lists Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net As a new member I did not realize what donate link was at bottom, would be good idea to remind members every now and then to donate, god knows I wouldn't have the time to do what Mark does and I really appreciate it. Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 5:26 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] mail lists yellow04@tr4racer.com wrote: > Even for those of us who are not IT challenged, the mail list format > is preferred! I would probably adapt to checking in on a forum > occasionally, but pushing the content into my email means I will look > at it when checking my email. > > Remember Mark Bradakis puts countless hours of his own time into > making this all work for us. We all owe this guy, please click the > donate button from time to time... > Thanks for the plug, Henry. I'm several months behind in getting out thank yous to some folks. If folks want to be able to send pictures through this list I can set that up. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore@wave1.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 06:30:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D62E542996 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:30:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s34.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s34.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.109]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBB942849 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:24:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W90 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s34.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 24 Mar 2013 05:22:33 -0700 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 08:22:32 -0400 FILETIME=[4345F860:01CE288A] Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 Event Shirts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ok boys and girls the 2013 version of the Kastner Cup shirts is now ready to order. If you go to the FOT website http://fot-racing.com/feature/2013roadam/shirt.htm you can gaze upon Steve Belfers artistry. The shirts will have the artwork as seen on the web site on the front and we will once again have the competitors names and car info on the backs of the shirts. Ted Schumacher will be taking on the duties of getting the shirts printed. The procedure will be the same as last years orders. You will need to send me an email to trmarty@hotmail.com with the number of shirts you want and sizes. Be sure to include your ship to address and contact phone number even if you intend to pick them up at the event. You can either have Ted mail you the shirts or pick them up at the Road America event. I will start taking orders now and stop taking them on July 15th. After I compile the order a few days after the July 15 cutoff date I will send emails out to the email addresses you sent me when you ordered the shirt advising you that it is time to contact Ted and make your arrangements to pay Ted directly. The prices for the shirts will be as follows, S-XL $15.00, for XXL add $2.80, for XXL, add $3.00. These prices will be plus mailing cost if you have Ted mail them. That my preferred method :). _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 06:46:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 253DA429A8 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:46:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s17.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s17.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.92]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 305FD42849 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:46:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W135 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s17.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 24 Mar 2013 05:44:31 -0700 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 08:44:31 -0400 FILETIME=[54692600:01CE288D] Subject: [Fot] Need Names for the Kastner Cup Shirts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net As you have read in my previous email we are once again including the the Kastner Cup competitors names and car info on the back of the shirts. If you are planning on competing in this years Kastner Cup at Road America please send me an email to trmarty@hotmail.com with KC Shirt Names in the subject line with your first and last name, your car model and your car number. If you know of any Triumph folks that are planning on competing but do not do the list stuff please forward this info to them so their info can be included on the shirts as well. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 07:15:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B544429B6 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 07:15:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s10.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s10.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.85]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28118425C1 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 07:13:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W5 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s10.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:11:38 -0700 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 09:11:37 -0400 FILETIME=[1E108090:01CE2891] Subject: [Fot] Shirt order update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net When you send me the shirt order please include if you will be picking them up at the track or getting them mailed to you. Also, the $3.00 up charge was for XXXL shirts. I left off an X. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 08:46:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B76429A3 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 08:46:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f49.google.com (mail-bk0-f49.google.com [209.85.214.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3363240EC6 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 08:42:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-bk0-f49.google.com with SMTP id w11so2464985bku.22 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 07:40:21 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=L85+FYygIJATH8q7kA3+8/TPkC9SYrlWBmdFG8EdfMg=; b=lff2+i6IPJFRUHwCPJCvjsZKaxGNjMT9qbRq6GFEGh2MJD7tLqIAGuW6qVn+GUWuki sEub10NG8RT5s1YeDl8HsPYtL5A3VAkJTHqhtxqoYiYm5RLvM25+SUb/YQ9rknJtvPv8 8F99TwLiEIPQ93HF4w1xfaatpEmKkGuZYuQhunOICbBQqmW777M98g9mvJUnb/0z/g7F cYcHnwRy03LjkLGAwwFzEd0G7C4bLwTnkdkv1HUDm+3f/44FxqfOwIBrcISUEpyCVrq3 nsEOlyMqpql9S7QtY9wcicxAvcsd4x5uOhmhjLsMWS0BClpM+7P6Z6Fz+7pqAnBVciw1 kSFw== fg10mr3986303bkb.47.1364136020905; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 07:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home (ip-109-41-16-86.web.vodafone.de. [109.41.16.86]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b21sm2171930bkw.12.2013.03.24.07.40.19 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 24 Mar 2013 07:40:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'FOT'" References: Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 15:40:02 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac4okVpCqC2DvtLiSiGZJk7VG0kq8wAC9vAQ Content-Language: de Subject: [Fot] US cars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I was looking for an US tow car and bought a H3. I was not sure about the offroad capabilities but now - after a mud bath - I'm deeply impressed. Great US car - chapeau! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p4zAcY53pQ Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 12:12:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11114257D for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 12:12:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from sitemail.siteprotect.com (sitemail.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.155]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03A840562 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 12:08:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by app06.sm.onr.chicago.hostway (Postfix) with ESMTP id E227EF8015A; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 13:06:51 -0500 (CDT) To: "'FOT'" , "MadMarx" Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 13:06:51 -0500 From: Charly Subject: Re: [Fot] US cars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; } Sorry you got one of those. You could of had the real deal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzEDY7P8Vps [1] Charly On Sun 24/03/13 7:40 AM , "MadMarx" tr4racing@googlemail.com sent: I was looking for an US tow car and bought a H3. I was not sure about the offroad capabilities but now - after a mud bath - I'm deeply impressed. Great US car - chapeau! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p4zAcY53pQ [2] Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com [4] Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html [5] Archive: http://www.team.net/archive [6] Forums: http://www.team.net/forums [7] Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ [8] Links: ------ [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzEDY7P8Vps [2] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.co m%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D3p4zAcY53pQ [4] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fot-racing .com [5] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Fdonate.html [6] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Farchive [7] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Fforums [8] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net %2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Ffot%2Fcharly%40mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 12:24:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF841425B6 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 12:24:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f50.google.com (mail-bk0-f50.google.com [209.85.214.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1CC403DE for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 12:18:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-bk0-f50.google.com with SMTP id jg9so2479605bkc.9 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:16:11 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=HS9oHZbuZeWb6WaMCW8nZoxl8lHo7pFdk/9MJV/u+EI=; b=Prc27hGUC2jggjiIUI6USXYFGPApNq5bg7ksTr23AkH4zTLAPdgIh8RDFTdhyONNOJ lxnyHwB0xxSnobj9KLOvfqUpLrjIKYYWXx229IrW73RqGNeFgYBGAo7t1jrQLddcs8Ts LfwdBTn6mWDSDfZozvbB0v0ltT1bgYwHUAcP3p8+LVVsOfxChFcsCWkF5Il2zWtK6VUw G8/yXrla/rZtbjsjAlIiKlsRyLBa2e9T+jMXWnzMsT5fVJ9yM2HCWj6/QA6TmbvGYWYB jiTBQ13gxC68Th3I9/Yif9qds5NSVk3pjVaXY5nxR7+jhofZz3iWwIL8fXc3RjyMNdom ltFQ== tp8mr4178395bkb.31.1364148970873; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home (ip-109-85-97-46.web.vodafone.de. [109.85.97.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id js7sm1572646bkb.9.2013.03.24.11.16.09 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:16:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: , "'FOT'" References: <18171.1364148411@mitchelplumbing.com> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 19:16:10 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac4oul2eCj+DNPcfRaiz4MKaIWZ2LwAATr1Q Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] US cars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ahb&.hmmmmb&..too many women sitting in those. Chris Von: Charly [mailto:charly@mitchelplumbing.com] Gesendet: Sonntag, 24. MC$rz 2013 19:07 An: 'FOT'; MadMarx Betreff: Re: [Fot] US cars Sorry you got one of those. You could of had the real deal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzEDY7P8Vps Charly tr4racing@googlemail.com sent: I was looking for an US tow car and bought a H3. I was not sure about the offroad capabilities but now - after a mud bath - I'm deeply impressed. Great US car - chapeau! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p4zAcY53pQ Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 12:56:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19EBB42538 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 12:56:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB5D4069A for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 12:36:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.12]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6DA901C00006A; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 14:34:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dne005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dne005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.160.81]) by mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id BB8AFE000081; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 14:34:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Gt6steve@aol.com Full-name: Gt6steve Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 14:34:11 -0400 (EDT) To: tr4racing@googlemail.com, charly@mitchelplumbing.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364150052; bh=wkP6koS16Q0o9TfKUnLIiE+Nb0bt5IZixes3KwiHj4E=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DWG298KVZym14t0aWidXUZpL2qPyQD+d+SyZEuRhh8le1fcG1rNoZd+YLsLexEVQP WX0iGWEesFh+AC37MOIFHLbF5V5NWr6d90o0c/jYztQqCxBDT5GygDShbCy1iGxvGG Zs9e6oX1XtCj/7t6Eap7jbP03IHSE0xW4JJVzgho= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290c514f47236525 Subject: Re: [Fot] US cars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yeah, that's always been my complaint. Too many women jumping into my Range Rover..... In a message dated 3/24/2013 11:22:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tr4racing@googlemail.com writes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzEDY7P8Vps _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 12:56:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A069425B6 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 12:56:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f43.google.com (mail-bk0-f43.google.com [209.85.214.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2805D4006C for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 12:37:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-bk0-f43.google.com with SMTP id jm19so2498764bkc.2 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:35:48 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=uLv9FYYxsC4AR3848XSps92u3zYxvMMrd9BKHoPVWcU=; b=VQl2BE5jS6N6JRClsXtdTcDYQbX+GTnkjRgVYupKlB88QbV72eVBwHR23D5F0b3Kh3 7IOWpuPODkJJH0328NBqWescHUFRpgHszvA3mhcO0oc4E47Y0aS4RjElPUrPzdT3HUfk Mhxyze3lDY1HJv6QOuA/bfKvzhuuGscO9wlEmsan1UJzwk8KyNs9qK8Ns2l4tGsUci7P ZlNtefm8qRx2icKo6QM/vbOnAp50dHKU3yxS5jK/k0hZDdGzPM8YLeTo1PbTW1wtkiFj deTZ+RJaFhwCUbbyXgsg5V1Q1spXd8Y7vrHiSjF6Lukq65jtCoN6p0Ew+xZ9H/ZKhrK5 L7Bg== iu2mr4120827bkc.102.1364150147862; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:35:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home (ip-109-85-97-46.web.vodafone.de. [109.85.97.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k4sm2330370bkv.18.2013.03.24.11.35.46 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:35:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: , , References: <5b829.1bd185e.3e80a123@aol.com> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 19:35:47 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac4ovi6Jtoj2XViwTXKhsa3DgK+/6QAABE/A Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] US cars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Well  The bad thing with a Range Rover is, that the young ladies jumping on the drivers seat. The good thing with Hummer is that the young ladies taking place on all other seats J Von: Gt6steve@aol.com [mailto:Gt6steve@aol.com] Gesendet: Sonntag, 24. Mdrz 2013 19:34 An: tr4racing@googlemail.com; charly@mitchelplumbing.com; fot@autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] US cars Yeah, that's always been my complaint. Too many women jumping into my Range Rover..... In a message dated 3/24/2013 11:22:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tr4racing@googlemail.com writes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzEDY7P8Vps _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 15:25:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E7340E9B for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 15:25:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com (imr-db02.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 948D040553 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 15:24:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8DBBC1C000151 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:22:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtc004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtc004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.13]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 63594E000085 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:22:56 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:22:56 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364160176; bh=Q38G+pQ7YzIkOiVfz/qLUhFTJyDBQjYJovTIA55CUyI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=L6P279nYRhCXFZrD/oyAXFlS36VgD5k9azqSmN9vr8jDYEQV1+vDJ5K+a7Id9ln12 jwMc2tTz/X3M3adAoZn/pj31Ufuu34mJhD4h3yzsN9dKoS98asRckF2DWEARhXZuJv M2L7gykOsofy1GWQABFJH43t8NSUHj1EjF98nAkw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c514f6eb00d76 Subject: [Fot] The Art of Racing in the Rain... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici... Anyone else reading, or read, a book by Garth Stein called, "The Art of Racing in the Rain"? I stumbled onto it as the result of a recent reference to it in the book section of the USA Today. Granted the racing, which keeps coming up over and over again (and clearly this author knows something about racing), but it mostly just provides a background for a sad story to be told about life and human nature. And here's the gimmick...the story is told the eyes of a dog...named Enzo. And Enzo is one hip dog. He is self-educated via TV. If he could talk, and had an opposable thumb, he could probably save the world. He knows all about humans, their lives, and racing...for that matter. I am only up to Chapter 9, but it is quite fascinating. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 15:55:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F267C427D3 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 15:55:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.199]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5434055D for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 15:48:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (ool-43533a40.dyn.optonline.net [67.83.58.64]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0MK6008A0PU8SWA0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:46:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:46:56 -0400 From: Todd Redmond To: "BillDentin@aol.com" References: <56c40.4ac0bc5f.3e80c8b0@aol.com> Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] The Art of Racing in the Rain... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That is a terrific book! The author has a actually raced cars. He was spot on with so many facts. Highly recommend! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 24, 2013, at 5:22 PM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > Amici... > > Anyone else reading, or read, a book by Garth Stein called, "The Art of > Racing in the Rain"? I stumbled onto it as the result of a recent reference to > it in the book section of the USA Today. Granted the racing, which keeps > coming up over and over again (and clearly this author knows something about > racing), but it mostly just provides a background for a sad story to be told > about life and human nature. And here's the gimmick...the story is told > the eyes of a dog...named Enzo. And Enzo is one hip dog. He is self-educated > via TV. If he could talk, and had an opposable thumb, he could probably > save the world. He knows all about humans, their lives, and racing...for that > matter. I am only up to Chapter 9, but it is quite fascinating. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 16:25:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CC8B40687 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:25:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc2-s19.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s19.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.94]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E6F40560 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:18:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY164-DS15 ([65.54.190.123]) by bay0-omc2-s19.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 24 Mar 2013 15:16:30 -0700 From: "Terry Stetler" To: , References: <56c40.4ac0bc5f.3e80c8b0@aol.com> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:16:29 -0400 Seal-Send-Time: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:16:29 -0400 FILETIME=[3C54D8C0:01CE28DD] Subject: Re: [Fot] The Art of Racing in the Rain... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bill, I have it sitting on my desk, but yet to start it. I'm a bit leery of the ending. I do love dogs. Terry Stetler _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 16:40:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91BA5425B5 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:40:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f49.google.com (mail-la0-f49.google.com [209.85.215.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E2B40553 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:34:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f49.google.com with SMTP id fs13so10273780lab.36 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 15:32:48 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=mgThN9bFKjWCv1aLPLNmV7n01kgL1DW6Xk+v6/nEbUk=; b=0uyVEN8BjVcZ4mQn3rE6eYf1FLNTO4+jExyrO2272xWAC8tzqV3zpAaZgJaG7bS0oq zgHpOWvDzNBxOKXW/tvsLMiHcJfSCPW3Y0/fg0moLaYbuEyhprhNRDAOlB2PjPEbRTgs 0ir4p9fWDuZ8P9rJW9zJf6UVrrIgraWmzuHucUaHXxmPepD8QNxteU5lSA/bkC1mamrc d1wKED7uLVXMYGFocxr2aGgcOgTWnL9FOBdEnB6YkFBK5c0bqoCALqS9rS4zcaHXn/ji KwlI8PjP5pOWoCafuVclNbSomfnTqLjvYp+gx/YTpe73CC5gMjzuZ0Bib+L4y4R/VyPw C6KQ== w9mr4763492lbn.2.1364164368615; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 15:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.33.48 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 15:32:07 -0700 (PDT) References: <56c40.4ac0bc5f.3e80c8b0@aol.com> From: Kas Kastner Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 15:32:07 -0700 To: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] The Art of Racing in the Rain... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Just a fun great book. Read a few months ago, you will enjoy it. I inderstand the author is a racer in Northern California as he describes the track at Thunder Hill. fun and funny. *Never be beaten by equipment.* On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Todd Redmond wrote: > That is a terrific book! The author has a actually raced cars. He was > spot on with so many facts. Highly recommend! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 24, 2013, at 5:22 PM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > > > Amici... > > > > Anyone else reading, or read, a book by Garth Stein called, "The Art of > > Racing in the Rain"? I stumbled onto it as the result of a recent > reference to > > it in the book section of the USA Today. Granted the racing, which keeps > > coming up over and over again (and clearly this author knows something > about > > racing), but it mostly just provides a background for a sad story to be > told > > about life and human nature. And here's the gimmick...the story is told > > the eyes of a dog...named Enzo. And Enzo is one hip dog. He is > self-educated > > via TV. If he could talk, and had an opposable thumb, he could probably > > save the world. He knows all about humans, their lives, and > racing...for that > > matter. I am only up to Chapter 9, but it is quite fascinating. > > > > Bill Dentinger > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 17:56:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1456740E9C for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:56:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f46.google.com (mail-pb0-f46.google.com [209.85.160.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE50D40513 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:55:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pb0-f46.google.com with SMTP id uo1so11124pbc.5 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:53:07 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=F4qetJPWy+QpIBXhVu78rJmCjRW6XdtkdvHf85dtXZ8=; b=OEo2CtOq9RHP7Ecq2EHS/i0o174bTG3PZeqhblvkq6JSRyQzJXqg0MpZ1iYVYUztKZ TeyWWOAssL6s3TsJ1DSezxTT9eycmxQTANP6E5RkwhxRO4Dnjs5KXtBd8zvysWryqFzO XLVBkU+DAuDJtNUh3iy8GNNzpXibLlUiYoTMcJXs9QADjYY1tIok6402NmHue9xGkgyB wvaz9SEIYKmtqIAYMvGF6Zr+IOP3486tf6VAMME4XLHAC9QEj1wAOH58/yPoF5Stq00I L2XhgdK7PshDdrZP+7lNyvmQ7BQYclIPbHre9rdgRdXiYFNP7odnDQnmCzzmDYzcW8u5 1R4w== z3mr12585954pau.125.1364169187306; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:53:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.44] (udp235334uds.hawaiiantel.net. [72.234.40.38]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z1sm11050447pbw.19.2013.03.24.16.53.05 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:53:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Babcock Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 13:53:03 -1000 References: <56c40.4ac0bc5f.3e80c8b0@aol.com> To: BillDentin@aol.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] The Art of Racing in the Rain... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Good book, a Seattle guy, as if that wasn't obvious. On Mar 24, 2013, at 11:22 AM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > Amici... > > Anyone else reading, or read, a book by Garth Stein called, "The Art of > Racing in the Rain"? I stumbled onto it as the result of a recent reference to > it in the book section of the USA Today. Granted the racing, which keeps > coming up over and over again (and clearly this author knows something about > racing), but it mostly just provides a background for a sad story to be told > about life and human nature. And here's the gimmick...the story is told > the eyes of a dog...named Enzo. And Enzo is one hip dog. He is self-educated > via TV. If he could talk, and had an opposable thumb, he could probably > save the world. He knows all about humans, their lives, and racing...for that > matter. I am only up to Chapter 9, but it is quite fascinating. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billb@bnj.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 18:30:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA97E40E9B for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:30:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm29.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm29.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.94]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF5D40534 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:30:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.194] by nm29.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2013 00:28:27 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.46] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2013 00:28:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp103.vzn.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2013 00:28:27 -0000 NMyB8BGfK4itm64fq5Vu4flsmcXLNBMlM245VGc3rii0hSWppPa8cGVS72kB yCNbf2bo0LuC3EqgHd7_FAgQOrkI4ONIkS4DO2MfwZ34gZjSNN99ratO3J66 s1VlsINMnomIfKXz8BAXe7Jrco0bbv1aezr3bzlO20Xq0LpD34gSUH4afjVM CLkT0Z8TqMzXIXEADYSnqu6SeNuI0aycsLTZ7AE1Evkx9ilf97xNA77x0xDB Dc7k9Onupg5kwwCjsuxyDWmgE1tQ1.U7LRCMzJzR7kveac8kxU2Dt982eQ7o p63xvNu.o1Sbu4_NZ98RkyauYqy2nQEDccVv2URFrQfSbpGm6CTQOmhVl0Ye UJ5uU1Gt6qJCW26NsF0jwBScWY3rYEW2OohQjJVKdbWFmDky_xZe_RXSv9Bu tpfERqcDxSeqaYVwTVicdXaUzo7tYIO8_CoXWrOcwDZ4L2Z_xzzLnkt.73st hadNjvDKdSQU0MtyIaqfnR0CFXeGS5uQ- by smtp103.vzn.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Mar 2013 17:28:27 -0700 PDT Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 20:28:29 -0400 From: Hugh Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <56c40.4ac0bc5f.3e80c8b0@aol.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] The Art of Racing in the Rain... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I read it last year. A very good read. Hugh Barber On 3/24/2013 5:22 PM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > Amici... > > Anyone else reading, or read, a book by Garth Stein called, "The Art of > Racing in the Rain"? I stumbled onto it as the result of a recent reference to > it in the book section of the USA Today. Granted the racing, which keeps > coming up over and over again (and clearly this author knows something about > racing), but it mostly just provides a background for a sad story to be told > about life and human nature. And here's the gimmick...the story is told > the eyes of a dog...named Enzo. And Enzo is one hip dog. He is self-educated > via TV. If he could talk, and had an opposable thumb, he could probably > save the world. He knows all about humans, their lives, and racing...for that > matter. I am only up to Chapter 9, but it is quite fascinating. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr6nut@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 19:46:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E5540687 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 19:46:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s3.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s3.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89A340549 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 19:46:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W103 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s3.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:44:05 -0700 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 21:44:04 -0400 FILETIME=[3BF8F6F0:01CE28FA] Subject: [Fot] K Cup shirt questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Please re-read below from the original post so I wont have to answer this individually as I am getting allot of questions and it's only Sunday night. :) Thanks, Marty Be sure to include your ship to address and contact phone number even if you intend to pick them up at the event. You can either have Ted mail you the shirts or pick them up at the Road America event. I will start taking orders now and stop taking them on July 15th. After I compile the order a few days after the July 15 cutoff date I will send emails out to the email addresses you sent me when you ordered the shirt advising you that it is time to contact Ted and make your arrangements to pay _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 20:15:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6600E425B6 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 20:15:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc2-s11.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s11.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0309D40549 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 20:14:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY147-W63 ([65.54.190.124]) by bay0-omc2-s11.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 24 Mar 2013 19:12:13 -0700 From: michael cook To: , "fot@autox.team.net" Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 22:12:12 -0400 References: <56c40.4ac0bc5f.3e80c8b0@aol.com> FILETIME=[29EE7260:01CE28FE] Subject: Re: [Fot] The Art of Racing in the Rain... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have read it through twice and will probably do it again in future. It's a rare book about car people that can be appreciated by non-car folks as well. Mike Cook > From: BillDentin@aol.com > Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:22:56 -0400 > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] The Art of Racing in the Rain... > > Amici... > > Anyone else reading, or read, a book by Garth Stein called, "The Art of > Racing in the Rain"? I stumbled onto it as the result of a recent reference to > it in the book section of the USA Today. Granted the racing, which keeps > coming up over and over again (and clearly this author knows something about > racing), but it mostly just provides a background for a sad story to be told > about life and human nature. And here's the gimmick...the story is told > the eyes of a dog...named Enzo. And Enzo is one hip dog. He is self-educated > via TV. If he could talk, and had an opposable thumb, he could probably > save the world. He knows all about humans, their lives, and racing...for that > matter. I am only up to Chapter 9, but it is quite fascinating. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mlcooknj@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 23:35:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE23A42564 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 23:35:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.70]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E63340440 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 23:34:30 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=XwQSt42SkjVyxef+rS20urS348ZvM3dG2m3PmMUZfOMJfHhLKK85FwWWcNR0FVdT; h=Received:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [68.118.35.134] (helo=[10.0.0.30]) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1UK01E-0002nj-0z; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 01:32:28 -0400 References: <56c40.4ac0bc5f.3e80c8b0@aol.com> From: "Greg \"Lunker\" Hilyer" Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 23:32:28 -0600 To: BillDentin@aol.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] The Art of Racing in the Rain... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Truly wonderful book. Setting is not only Seattle but also my childhood stomping grounds on Mercer Island. Pretty sure I know the house the "evil grandparents" lived in. Supposed to be coming out in a movie. Barley would have been a shoe-in. We actually almost got him a audition. Of course, Barley had enough "racer balance" that he didn't need to be belted in with a sheet but we tried that once too and he didn't seem to mind. Great book but keep the tissues close by. Greg "Lunker" Hilyer TR4 #314 Albuquerque New Mexico... and gunnin' for Road America On Mar 24, 2013, at 3:22 PM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > Amici... > > Anyone else reading, or read, a book by Garth Stein called, "The > Art of > Racing in the Rain"? I stumbled onto it as the result of a recent > reference to > it in the book section of the USA Today. Granted the racing, which > keeps > coming up over and over again (and clearly this author knows > something about > racing), but it mostly just provides a background for a sad story > to be told > about life and human nature. And here's the gimmick...the story is > told > the eyes of a dog...named Enzo. And Enzo is one hip dog. He is > self-educated > via TV. If he could talk, and had an opposable thumb, he could > probably > save the world. He knows all about humans, their lives, and > racing...for that > matter. I am only up to Chapter 9, but it is quite fascinating. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ > lunkercars@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 25 06:19:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DDAB4051B for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 06:19:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm30-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm30-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.126]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ADB440409 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 06:19:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.141] by nm30.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2013 12:17:19 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.200] by tm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2013 12:17:19 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1009.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2013 12:17:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 67846 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Mar 2013 12:17:19 -0000 s=s1024; t=1364213839; bh=XDoe151FkCvOmPsX605Ju8PWsjGoJuU8en9Lzb1AkX8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BPSjVhaIZ/ZbDUGYrrx/UBugDEZWIMdqRkF2VlwOOsMhHylqJl7noI9XAkPnSyqCFH6MecgkQySrBloq1vOHYYXUFdHcCduB/3lXikKoDoEny4ZKUysmbUUhsbi0Kxj/CD9Rc7DFau7mW6ZWEmafYJX2LI3dEw5xv1r3GtDsrzA= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aiTlTKvpa78Fj/ZmiX6HiLEEAW89iulTe4JmS8VpZLUzuzfs79grlosaFb/MRmR9sv2h0nC4kzCdgPTh+KLICh09EB6mtVcV1fp3X1ZqfAwCwDAkLa921awahcWu5GZAPM0YjFEaMSUkP+zOKX/ft/nJ/gTYr4eStRVhSZUfZNA=; 2yV.UWr7aLkgf1fsbsOhST0SBacGe3a2UoN.G3Sv5lpmfRS8h6zwmk2GR20L zNNcXa2L5VQeyoG2x7Rc6z4_cOq.CYlrV7Urc5bgbCto7BSQ05upKfrCIFq6 v0kmSdgCBlEmloWxJ2S2MMqEknjc5ceJMaLy.46n_CmWkJ7goB8QIlaydYZH N_F5QLVIxFJM1_rra0ET8OO22jHscfYpDz66LutLPSLQuWvi5d3owQotAiOW FMWTLBG5DKTlTsQZbfhroRlFci4IjeTP5TovjeFH_ZSrCsQR3g51bTRFX14N v9YrpNJD.7SmCAChrEGoJGPuJKTC9tI58QTiQeGdQ9z.3RwWKZAKOru2ALcZ U_EIPUe3RELyas.ALHW_o3QLBOsPqtuFVNPZAmkUQaLQ5WFtTnfugI5qbEYn wY8uhhRqzgWUAUd5dUawlC.aym5rO9JK0nOiuQAj4F26kp08kRjdlYfbeQC8 ztSGdPucSwK4wPXYJMbHwfRhUIqiOuWdyai58PJYz5D8am2slXVWwxhEaSFq sZuI_ahpdNVLFtflle7md568E Received: from [64.132.65.78] by web140606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 05:17:18 PDT VmVyeSBnb29kIGJvb2suIEkgaGF2ZSBsb2FuZWQgbXkgY29weSB0byBtYW55IG90aGVycyB3aG8gaGF2ZSBlbmpveWVkIHRoZSBib29rIGFzIHdlbGwuCgoKCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogRnJvbTogIkJpbGxEZW50aW5AYW9sLmNvbSIgPEJpbGxEZW50aW5AYW9sLmNvbT4KVG86IGZvdEBhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldCAKU2VudDogU3VuZGF5LCBNYXJjaCAyNCwgMjAxMyA0OjIyIFBNClN1YmplY3Q6IFtGb3RdIFRoZSBBcnQgb2YgUmFjaW5nIGluIHRoZSBSYWluLi4uCiAKQW1pY2kBMAEBAQE- References: <56c40.4ac0bc5f.3e80c8b0@aol.com> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 05:17:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Ernest Husmann To: "BillDentin@aol.com" , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] The Art of Racing in the Rain... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Very good book. I have loaned my copy to many others who have enjoyed the book as well. ________________________________ From: "BillDentin@aol.com" To: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 4:22 PM Subject: [Fot] The Art of Racing in the Rain... Amici... Anyone else reading, or read, a book by Garth Stein called, "The Art of Racing in the Rain"? I stumbled onto it as the result of a recent reference to it in the book section of the USA Today. Granted the racing, which keeps coming up over and over again (and clearly this author knows something about racing), but it mostly just provides a background for a sad story to be told about life and human nature. And here's the gimmick...the story is told the eyes of a dog...named Enzo. And Enzo is one hip dog. He is self-educated via TV. If he could talk, and had an opposable thumb, he could probably save the world. He knows all about humans, their lives, and racing...for that matter. I am only up to Chapter 9, but it is quite fascinating. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ehusmann53@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 25 11:51:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75E2740518 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 11:51:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm5-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm5-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.150]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 270864055D for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 15:37:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.152] by nm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Mar 2013 21:35:37 -0000 Received: from [98.139.213.15] by tm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Mar 2013 21:35:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp115.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Mar 2013 21:35:37 -0000 s=s1024; t=1364160937; bh=Ph1zfg5oOi7jLKwSG3kC7Tgs9sYtweF7t2Cab0Y+zNA=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Date:Subject:Message-ID:From:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=VrD96TyIhfV1EAwbVt4q4algM2NADFIKTkqrnRR9D70iD88l+crwJ/02qCDhCN+9RFavGs000WAWD9Zuqk3yjexM73ysWgaTSiZ0eLzMW2MKuDSdHfssNF0I8ThyIjF2jypSr9zrbqTGqcpdVgUdK4NgSOlWhBt9dpitT7jlvCU= 8YoQ_JanShYYS.NxowGSpOrb2Oq5S.3Q0N4PG4VNVT96GcGMGC4y_rseWEnK jumlimEuBTJDh4e_OCaGPlrFXWedSKPmU3wei.Q_0OIAL4ISvIVbP8U_B7hj jX3tqp8RY47zfJoW8vdQM0Vyg2WiCMi8zn76mjHfVA5nT0jZ8su1254xh0cQ jVRTfdDHHSOme65HBPdtNdG4GlJNS2.1O4wPQm2XuBdjtmgOloFCYLROlnbx uLWVN2znOlCTAlcP3.fO3RNRfUXgT_u8ivC3rRLpbp.gP87SB3VKGWP4w3kf nxI.aQRN2fp0i5hYiejB9tVgkfYMSjt6GWg6cwiCme5iDPFG.votS9fH6Sl. eVub9uJ3atDg4TBfVvOo3YOR5ACqpiYHjc3JxLzRek_9Cup0.aqXPubqCPaK EdIzvawcgX4DvmyzjNM0JIB3EDrAN4kFUOQ6jbcV1V4GxiATNhj1h5iOuiZ3 qtYN2VVLOhlfRk.v5cERusO9IoFZP9iKt1QZw plain) by smtp115.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Mar 2013 14:35:37 -0700 PDT Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:35:35 -0500 From: "Steve Benford Jr." To: BillDentin@aol.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] The Art of Racing in the Rain... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Great read. I know the story sounds corny but it really is a wonderful story. NOT a Burt book, but written by a real racer. It will touch your soul but you will have to read it to understand why. BillDentin@aol.com wrote: >Amici... > >Anyone else reading, or read, a book by Garth Stein called, "The Art of >Racing in the Rain"? I stumbled onto it as the result of a recent reference to >it in the book section of the USA Today. Granted the racing, which keeps >coming up over and over again (and clearly this author knows something about >racing), but it mostly just provides a background for a sad story to be told >about life and human nature. And here's the gimmick...the story is told >the eyes of a dog...named Enzo. And Enzo is one hip dog. He is self-educated >via TV. If he could talk, and had an opposable thumb, he could probably >save the world. He knows all about humans, their lives, and racing...for that >matter. I am only up to Chapter 9, but it is quite fascinating. > >Bill Dentinger >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbracing@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 25 11:52:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12674054F for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 11:52:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp650.redcondor.net (smtp650.redcondor.net [208.80.206.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD5D40406 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 11:03:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cgp.netins.net ([167.142.229.73]) by smtp650.redcondor.net ({9ef01f99-b982-4add-83fd-b7c41c74273c}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20130325170150373; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 17:01:50 +0000 Received: from [208.126.78.151] (account riverside@southslope.net HELO rileyPC) by cgpf2.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.13) with ESMTPA id 494674077; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:01:37 -0500 From: To: "Ernest Husmann" , , References: <56c40.4ac0bc5f.3e80c8b0@aol.com> <1364213838.67207.YahooMailNeo@web140606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:01:35 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] The Art of Racing in the Rain... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net My wife bought it for me a couple years ago thinking it was just a car book. What a great surprise to find a dog book between the covers! The perfect book: a knowledgeable picture of racing and great yarn told by a smart dog. I have loaned it out several times. To those not yet to the end: You're gonna love it! art de armond -----Original Message----- From: Ernest Husmann Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 7:17 AM To: BillDentin@aol.com ; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] The Art of Racing in the Rain... Very good book. I have loaned my copy to many others who have enjoyed the book as well. ________________________________ From: "BillDentin@aol.com" To: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 4:22 PM Subject: [Fot] The Art of Racing in the Rain... Amici... Anyone else reading, or read, a book by Garth Stein called, "The Art of Racing in the Rain"? I stumbled onto it as the result of a recent reference to it in the book section of the USA Today. Granted the racing, which keeps coming up over and over again (and clearly this author knows something about racing), but it mostly just provides a background for a sad story to be told about life and human nature. And here's the gimmick...the story is told the eyes of a dog...named Enzo. And Enzo is one hip dog. He is self-educated via TV. If he could talk, and had an opposable thumb, he could probably save the world. He knows all about humans, their lives, and racing...for that matter. I am only up to Chapter 9, but it is quite fascinating. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ehusmann53@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside@southslope.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6201 - Release Date: 03/24/13 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 25 12:37:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252B44039F for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:37:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f178.google.com (mail-ob0-f178.google.com [209.85.214.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4180A40356 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:33:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f178.google.com with SMTP id wd20so6203300obb.23 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 11:31:01 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=lZO+v3qmv3ACT8HqNIGtDSIQGsMroAj/nEgWA+iLrHQ=; b=nQeNN4vRK6DP2QfEBW7vdUAiVxP9yRg4/+fnWWYXTVp2yDOypi2ZunCkk8I/EA3DcK KEx3R0zPE9Un7AAap1DNDeHgvH6oMRMdPV6HxbDc3w8d0Y9kgqavHkhnnD+Phob9lNq/ +SjHVaVmNIlSCIyH/I8BymT/9UoT4TGSOzQX4+8gxiX87uhd8JJJHqX58bcb+imGSaRs KvBkogI7QAYHW0fSYakBx8Yi7dGIhbbhA4XQ6XDkVyPnn157VGW9icLYZVtYQPGbHX2H v4v2UiyNTgvQv92jIKSpjoh/GsH1OItt0KrxbgHxCJtSxN36E91kyQDAywFSiiATeTlL QiPg== Mon, 25 Mar 2013 11:31:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.78.105 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 11:31:00 -0700 (PDT) References: <56c40.4ac0bc5f.3e80c8b0@aol.com> <1364213838.67207.YahooMailNeo@web140606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 11:31:00 -0700 From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" To: riverside@southslope.net Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] The Art of Racing in the Rain... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I had the good fortune to hear Garth speak at our small, local Alfa club meeting last month and to speak with him afterwards. He did indeed race Spec Miata in our Pacific NW Internation Conference of Sports Car Clubs. I saw the hood at a local shop wwith his signature. It was somewhat crumpled! Don Kitch, who is mentioned in the book is a real person and he does run ProformanceRace Drving School at Pacific Raceways. Garth told lots of stories about events that the book has triggered in his life. Two great ones were about the relationship that developed with Ferrari following the bookd sucess: Getting a 450 and a photographer for a day in LA and, in Modena getting a one on one factory tour that very unexpectedly included a tour of the design shop [visitors are never allowed there!] directed by Luca Cordero di Montezemolo [chairman of Ferrari] himself. He is a very friendly and approachable guy. For all you budding authors, note that his agent at the time could not get the book published as "Who would read a book written from a dog's perspective?". Big mistake, book is now in 30 languages and over 10 million copies sold. Chuck _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 25 13:09:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07A740454 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 13:09:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f46.google.com (mail-oa0-f46.google.com [209.85.219.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18E6403FF for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 13:09:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id k1so6786271oag.19 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:07:31 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IrlenBv4wP/eVSuyIdw7sQEjRL9/eygZmkbk701OxyM=; b=E3Y2IsrapRRPzffjQyNEDH3NS4H3L+6k5kKeMTofQ6uAUCM3N/EQt+wHmuHr9Ijsfq chEbOr9YiHzucXKBGCh0dWwLHhNNV7or3VnljQoDuPv3AUPgA5wvLmtJDSAilPYTCF8K EyPYV6qH31F+AXzK2yaBb27UH9glNyZR8aC4Dx3cy9KBVkJ/J3AOljfGAf0pid9Ve6TR /VvLz34m1ixuC708kpyFHv8w/vaRNo1PAElL4dTMwlvjrlJtQvw3gYekT1ifF2+tEMLF DwjXEr2KKnjSR0GA4OVbvZOnNqx2Nah69GZrOCQIf4JUoc93hVok4G5hRMfnboyoPw44 2Utw== b5mr12042361oeh.57.1364238451607; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:07:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.78.105 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:07:31 -0700 (PDT) References: <56c40.4ac0bc5f.3e80c8b0@aol.com> <1364213838.67207.YahooMailNeo@web140606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:07:31 -0700 From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" To: "Robert M. Lang" , Friends Subject: Re: [Fot] The Art of Racing in the Rain... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Oh, and also. the name for the book came from a two page write up Don Kitch gives to all his SCCA class students -- very necessary info for the NW. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Robert M. Lang wrote: > On Mon, 25 Mar 2013, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley wrote: > > He is a very friendly and approachable guy. For all you budding authors, >> note that his agent at the time could not get the book published as "Who >> would read a book written from a dog's perspective?". Big mistake, book >> is >> now in 30 languages and over 10 million copies sold. >> > > LIKE!!!! > > I'm not a budding author, but I always root for the little guy! > > Chuck >> > > Hope all is well in the PAC NW > > l8r, > rml > ------------------------------**------------------------------** > --------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > ------------------------------**------------------------------** > --------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 25 13:46:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D12040426 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 13:46:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com (mx2.netinteraction.com [174.143.201.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95F9403F0 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 13:46:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTP id C6A66F441C9 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:44:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P+pz++Uwtrel for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com (75-128-248-175.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com [75.128.248.175]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTPA id 1E16E9A49EC for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 14:44:17 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net From: Peter Caldwell Subject: Re: [Fot] The Art of Racing in the Rain... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net >. NOT a Burt book, but written by a real racer. now THAT'S funny....... It IS a great book, btw. Peter C _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 25 13:55:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E01540426 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 13:55:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm27-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm27-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.188]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D01D403F0 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 13:51:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.99] by nm27.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2013 19:49:36 -0000 Received: from [67.195.23.146] by tm4.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2013 19:49:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp118.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2013 19:49:36 -0000 MSB1vKPCmCTMEUSkLhAROnT6uadVY60r44TVpRbGsiDG5214ZA4P5bQhiteR 9lEQN7Z91FF.P1Ib4sfaKGcHDSdmi8CEx2BNlkTW_sQgDctilk6l30ldh8f0 4AVz6Ml.3Be995uS9N20mjSDltOEek3BFGJD0zPduKkzmRGWqknghg9NpsG_ phbkCTcPh4LCqEMzXb09UFFihDhJZkfbL6hRA48nNi1sF4zfEzD18kdCmjxo jkjwAC2anxee_2r.cLwBksjdE1l0eF77_Gwxt4WlLweEzjzCxCj6u716uh3a uqfxzGRkgxOPIIbYLmYM7VU0r8l_LUaI6lWUJymY2OJfNTM86KZDjFQpD_E9 oSvWMWVZKvaFqiYXBRVhvMCFkdSGDccwqTXj7j2wYU4OULop1nXRy2kRUoui 0h3jBMWkbHMaHc2mDuR2A plain) by smtp118.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2013 19:49:36 +0000 UTC Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 14:49:37 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <56c40.4ac0bc5f.3e80c8b0@aol.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] The Art of Racing in the Rain... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net For those of you who are lazy (like me) it is also available in audible form. Would be a good book to listen to while on a long tow to a race. I immediately thought of Barley and Lunker when I heard it, since he has the dog and the Seattle background. Larry _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 25 13:58:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74FFD40431 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 13:58:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm23.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm23.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC362403F1 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 13:58:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.143] by nm23.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2013 19:56:24 -0000 Received: from [98.139.173.173] by tm14.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2013 19:56:24 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp102-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2013 19:56:24 -0000 s=s1024; t=1364241384; bh=ooKmwOVc4cq3UlkNuiZJ9aEIcsPB01lY5ibcG2q/pdo=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=Jo31viExOXnv/1varG4ffPqaDVRFR8BHpTM+2/sKTyJ2D2MU6IdUUnuwy6twi5a9iTBbVPrudqaZreyUFXg4ojlFgZxFZ7N6UEkng1N766ON3xa9dJ4okxdvUMLZwspKTmSrhwbHUgOGSz9UEoaYQwrGF1vE1RsNXUUjzncrLT4= 4zUL0DYNJDTDodZvyNBcW6JtzNBcNZ4TMWH68NLKls97K6Fpn4GhUyFPoPeK g6SaknI3uPEgonSwjMKqnLaBANIGvWpf5B.SxonBTXLkT_ZLgk3FZLOg4lEi s7NzkdgTvNT4UoNuWgUjd_dq6VtwfYxG6d24HNQYxeWWl4dKxmZI2zEo.BIb dAUGWafQcjHBVOn9dYL7SCjwQUxeuyPx3RRb5M4NTCrsHbFPt8_m4Sl_pRmg .k377kwxKsIhqAr8OM0l8qFoQOYuVhCHzs0zNIabsbRX9yGTNfDPhLM878Oi LxDt.I2ubq1YoQNln8eH9SB_kUnnor0WULs02DuHciWe3CBpDM51ifAXrWIY qllECPYoXI2bI9iQ05HfwhjOXKM6VRNsdT3ugy8hLPwhBynV8PQcbnfP2PG6 Esp_TRS7iuX1r6ew75qigvGbpiPLmNKDgu0FI.GL10lx_svMaGs6.xkphF7a gcEgAAH7wzTIiqPKK9Fvt9lAYVA6Kvi4- xymcookie) by smtp102-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2013 12:56:24 -0700 PDT References: <20130325194409.C6A66F441C9@mx2.netinteraction.com> From: Andy Packard Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:56:14 -0700 To: Peter Caldwell Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] The Art of Racing in the Rain... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Just bought it on iBooks for 2.99. Good read for the train. Andy Packard Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: >> . NOT a Burt book, but written by a real racer. > > > now THAT'S funny....... > > > > It IS a great book, btw. > > > Peter C > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/apackard68@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 26 11:47:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B225425B8 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:47:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s30.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s30.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.105]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA052403D7 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:46:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W75 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s30.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 26 Mar 2013 10:44:50 -0700 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 13:44:49 -0400 FILETIME=[9D714B30:01CE2A49] Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Just a reminder. I know it is early and the season has not even started for the majority out there, if your hoping to compete in the Kastner Cup event in September send me your name and car info so I can add it to the shirt list, even if your plans are not fully etched in stone yet. In addition to the shirts, having an idea of attendees will make some of the up front planning work out better. Not too worry if you end up not being able to make it. Before the shirt orders are sent in I will issue a last call for additions or subtractions. Thanks, Marty Sukey _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 26 12:28:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4730340515 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 12:28:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s29.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s29.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.104]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 933C0403DB for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 12:25:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT402-EAS255 ([65.55.90.71]) by snt0-omc2-s29.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:23:17 -0700 References: From: Vince G Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 14:22:52 -0400 To: marty sukey FILETIME=[FCE53AE0:01CE2A4E] Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Vince Garrett 1970 Triumph GT6+. Red/Wht/Blk #144 Club VARAC (Ontario Canada) Registered with CASC Pretty much stock power train and drive line. I expect to have fun following all you experts around the course :) Holidays booked its just a question of finances and I'm working on it.... My first "Out of Canada" event and will be an honor if I can pull it off. Looking forward! Sent from my iPhone On 2013-03-26, at 1:45 PM, "marty sukey" wrote: > Just a reminder. I know it is early and the season has not even started for > the majority out there, if your hoping to compete in the Kastner Cup event in > September send me your name and car info so I can add it to the shirt list, > even if your plans are not fully etched in stone yet. In addition to the > shirts, having an idea of attendees will make some of the up front planning > work out better. Not too worry if you end up not being able to make it. Before > the shirt orders are sent in I will issue a last call for additions or > subtractions. > > Thanks, > > Marty Sukey > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 26 12:33:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEEE74257E for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 12:33:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from ex.dunnwalshholdings.com (ex.dunnwalshholdings.com [173.219.117.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF971403DB for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 12:33:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::6cea:93a1:26a:8c3c]) by TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::6cea:93a1:26a:8c3c%15]) with mapi; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:30:56 -0700 From: Edward Dunn To: marty sukey , FOT Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:30:48 -0700 Thread-Topic: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers Thread-Index: Ac4qSaRd2gKtVhKITA+0OuOJLJyqfQABfqKQ References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ed Dunn 1964 Spitfire #22 or maybe; 1971 GT6 #757 Edward Dunn West Coast Vintage Racing 2240 Encinitas Blvd., Suite D101 Encinitas CA 92024 760-492-3814 www.vintageracing.us -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of marty sukey Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:45 AM To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers Just a reminder. I know it is early and the season has not even started for the majority out there, if your hoping to compete in the Kastner Cup event in September send me your name and car info so I can add it to the shirt list, even if your plans are not fully etched in stone yet. In addition to the shirts, having an idea of attendees will make some of the up front planning work out better. Not too worry if you end up not being able to make it. Before the shirt orders are sent in I will issue a last call for additions or subtractions. Thanks, Marty Sukey _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 26 12:58:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BFF04257E for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 12:58:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc4-s32.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s32.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.235]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCAD0403DB for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 12:54:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT401-EAS420 ([65.55.90.201]) by snt0-omc4-s32.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:52:00 -0700 References: <8CFF86793C0FF9F-26AC-10036@webmail-m269.sysops.aol.com> From: Vince G Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 14:51:56 -0400 To: Joe Alexander FILETIME=[FFB2B5F0:01CE2A52] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net LOL. maybe I'll miss Canada corner on the last lap so I might get home quicker AND with a big smile on my face :) Sent from my iPhone On 2013-03-26, at 2:33 PM, "Joe Alexander" wrote: > Vince, > > We are going to have a big six cylinder showing. > > Equipment and Drivers are all over the map in preparation and speed. > You will have someone to race with and plenty of support in the paddock. > > We are pleased we are going to have great representation from Canada. > > Remember, if you miss CANADA CORNER, you may end up back in Canada. > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Vince G > To: marty sukey > Cc: FOT > Sent: Tue, Mar 26, 2013 1:26 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers > > Vince Garrett > 1970 Triumph GT6+. Red/Wht/Blk > #144 > Club VARAC (Ontario Canada) > Registered with CASC > > Pretty much stock power train and drive line. I expect to have fun following > all you experts around the course :) > > Holidays booked its just a question of finances and I'm working on it.... > > My first "Out of Canada" event and will be an honor if I can pull it off. > > Looking forward! > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2013-03-26, at 1:45 PM, "marty sukey" wrote: > > > Just a reminder. I know it is early and the season has not even started > for > > the majority out there, if your hoping to compete in the Kastner Cup event > in > > September send me your name and car info so I can add it to the shirt list, > > even if your plans are not fully etched in stone yet. In addition to the > > shirts, having an idea of attendees will make some of the up front planning > > work out better. Not too worry if you end up not being able to make it. > Before > > the shirt orders are sent in I will issue a last call for additions or > > subtractions. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Marty Sukey > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 26 13:02:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844BD4284E for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 13:02:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32EBA403DD for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 13:02:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.192] by nm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Mar 2013 19:00:12 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.108] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Mar 2013 19:00:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1013.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Mar 2013 19:00:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 88116 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Mar 2013 19:00:12 -0000 s=s1024; t=1364324412; bh=okPnhqklYvIpZd7NGMtKY+YZmMdLZTfypDZHtzkRDTQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tSZp8Zm2ypssMouomCJ71u2lhmWIw8vQ6D+7zYPpmMfTW78vsZ1cFQhib4SVizeofpec9Cj4XxBPedqToBppdxfHMs/wAVnCWqTzfa1V7ISyRZW9Oz1t7GAiBV7iQsAH2wxXUzsQJ1W4V7oCer7jS2iZT+92Pu5nnZLWCJGmRwQ= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vPQnzPKZPqHngLAjSv92iLpNQofr7EtBxZBI/RuAedz8ZFxX3a6FQyUxWyp8KO91d/j6+S9Nu9nWSnIRJ70bD1WHSu5I52dgtUNIXPDW2p05D2yjR9JMgc3/szkeu2iA5zYZAl8SOJErmn6ItKzoYT6kXk8lPdPrNBGO76ZdbdU=; ddS7WJ38v4i.sKz9CjMGBxEEtWdqwqglt2dc0H_ttdpVBcrH4TShP7Xp__zM .5Zb_O2OsZUfzPkav2pP2BQ9ZzCkaqrhBcUArLGe3FS7USm472nnhSFo.qTW R2o10HkooaDVhP3OkE2fa_UGvW1vRX4AEgHVoSmrQaIFUzcDVShFlhdm8X9G BSoaCEgAp1cLaTZ6rGKdjTgRU1qiLF6H6vAatrY2ER0OEmadnHuduYy8oWEa lzv7IVIzNLgkl_IqL7UxiRuOlDXdJoWC4iV6A.7q0B_gtc97sc8sUgF5E1gI k2sPTDkyEdCHqcQV1edJj5n0t_36dsr74MREc.h8_ai3mrmBXejjjrIdT_Pw YhIesQF30G00fTQRnGpYj3VneIqakWHnbkvaQyxDZ6_3SbCeFD.BaIDVKAg3 5eXiHsmnKSVSZ.MMezktX9m7kjPCNgnKZxZ.qOep3YUwhyqcNHLkmhzJVqtT hH4Hblgr1tqYNS4cDvh6Hvq.tmLqtke.E6xSM0JN5BK7D Received: from [68.165.86.214] by web182205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 12:00:12 PDT MTk3MCBUcml1bXBoIEdULTYrCiMzOSBEUCByYWNlIHByZXBhcmVkLi4uLiBTT01FVElNRVMgaXQgcnVucywgSSBob3BlIGJ5IHN1bW1lciBJJ20gaW4gdGhlIGRyaXZlcnMgCnNlYXQuLi4KCkJvYmJ5IFdoaXRlaGVhZAoKCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KRnJvbTogVmluY2UgRyA8dmFuZ291Z2h2QGhvdG1haWwuY29tPgpUbzogbWFydHkgc3VrZXkgPHRybWFydHlAaG90bWFpbC5jb20.CkNjOiBGT1QgPGZvdEBhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldD4KU2VudDogVHVlLCBNYXJjaCAyNiwgMjABMAEBAQE- References: Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 12:00:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net 1970 Triumph GT-6+ #39 DP race prepared.... SOMETIMES it runs, I hope by summer I'm in the drivers seat... Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: Vince G To: marty sukey Cc: FOT Sent: Tue, March 26, 2013 1:26:17 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers Vince Garrett 1970 Triumph GT6+. Red/Wht/Blk #144 Club VARAC (Ontario Canada) Registered with CASC Pretty much stock power train and drive line. I expect to have fun following all you experts around the course :) Holidays booked its just a question of finances and I'm working on it.... My first "Out of Canada" event and will be an honor if I can pull it off. Looking forward! Sent from my iPhone On 2013-03-26, at 1:45 PM, "marty sukey" wrote: > Just a reminder. I know it is early and the season has not even started for > the majority out there, if your hoping to compete in the Kastner Cup event in > September send me your name and car info so I can add it to the shirt list, > even if your plans are not fully etched in stone yet. In addition to the > shirts, having an idea of attendees will make some of the up front planning > work out better. Not too worry if you end up not being able to make it. Before > the shirt orders are sent in I will issue a last call for additions or > subtractions. > > Thanks, > > Marty Sukey > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 26 14:31:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 563D04293F for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 14:31:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16113403DD for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 14:29:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.98.85] (c-69-249-204-30.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [69.249.204.30]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MKA000P4BHH7F40@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:27:21 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-03-26_04:2013-03-26,2013-03-26,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1302030000 definitions=main-1303260214 From: Scott Janzen Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 16:27:17 -0400 References: <1364324412.87390.YahooMailRC@web182205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> To: Bobby Whitehead Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Scott Janzen 1968 GT6+. With Jason, that makes at least five of the little buggers, if we are all still running by September. That would be a hoot. I've never been on the same track with another GT6. On Mar 26, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: 1970 Triumph GT-6+ #39 DP race prepared.... SOMETIMES it runs, I hope by summer I'm in the drivers seat... Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: Vince G To: marty sukey Cc: FOT Sent: Tue, March 26, 2013 1:26:17 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers Vince Garrett 1970 Triumph GT6+. Red/Wht/Blk #144 Club VARAC (Ontario Canada) Registered with CASC Pretty much stock power train and drive line. I expect to have fun following all you experts around the course :) Holidays booked its just a question of finances and I'm working on it.... My first "Out of Canada" event and will be an honor if I can pull it off. Looking forward! Sent from my iPhone On 2013-03-26, at 1:45 PM, "marty sukey" wrote: > Just a reminder. I know it is early and the season has not even started for > the majority out there, if your hoping to compete in the Kastner Cup event in > September send me your name and car info so I can add it to the shirt list, > even if your plans are not fully etched in stone yet. In addition to the > shirts, having an idea of attendees will make some of the up front planning > work out better. Not too worry if you end up not being able to make it. Before > the shirt orders are sent in I will issue a last call for additions or > subtractions. > > Thanks, > > Marty Sukey > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 26 17:27:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293A44257E for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 17:27:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7800C40079 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 17:26:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-108-16-249-182.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [108.16.249.182]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MKA00KT6JP72A10@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 23:24:46 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-03-26_04:2013-03-26,2013-03-26,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1302030000 definitions=main-1303260259 References: <1364324412.87390.YahooMailRC@web182205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <67037F76-019A-4F98-8AE4-484AEEB27ED3@gdhs.com> From: Scott Janzen Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:24:44 -0400 To: John Hasty Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I always thought that was the MGs Sent from my mobile device On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:06 PM, John Hasty wrote: > Scot, the only thing I can tell you is to get some night vision goggles to help see through the thick cloud of blue smoke they lay down to prevent you from a clear view of the track. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 26, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Scott Janzen wrote: > >> Scott Janzen 1968 GT6+. With Jason, that makes at least five of the little >> buggers, if we are all still running by September. >> That would be a hoot. I've never been on the same track with another GT6. >> >> On Mar 26, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: >> >> 1970 Triumph GT-6+ >> #39 DP race prepared.... SOMETIMES it runs, I hope by summer I'm in the >> drivers >> seat... >> >> Bobby Whitehead >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Vince G >> To: marty sukey >> Cc: FOT >> Sent: Tue, March 26, 2013 1:26:17 PM >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers >> >> Vince Garrett >> 1970 Triumph GT6+. Red/Wht/Blk >> #144 >> Club VARAC (Ontario Canada) >> Registered with CASC >> >> Pretty much stock power train and drive line. I expect to have fun >> following >> all you experts around the course :) >> >> Holidays booked its just a question of finances and I'm working on it.... >> >> My first "Out of Canada" event and will be an honor if I can pull it off. >> >> Looking forward! >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 2013-03-26, at 1:45 PM, "marty sukey" wrote: >> >>> Just a reminder. I know it is early and the season has not even started >> for >>> the majority out there, if your hoping to compete in the Kastner Cup event >> in >>> September send me your name and car info so I can add it to the shirt list, >>> even if your plans are not fully etched in stone yet. In addition to the >>> shirts, having an idea of attendees will make some of the up front planning >>> work out better. Not too worry if you end up not being able to make it. >> Before >>> the shirt orders are sent in I will issue a last call for additions or >>> subtractions. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Marty Sukey >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 26 19:48:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1F714056A for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:48:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s39.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s39.snt0.hotmail.com [65.54.61.90]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3095D403DD for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:48:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT403-EAS521 ([65.55.90.73]) by snt0-omc2-s39.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 26 Mar 2013 18:46:32 -0700 References: <1364324412.87390.YahooMailRC@web182205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Vince G Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:46:31 -0400 To: Bobby Whitehead FILETIME=[E8B531E0:01CE2A8C] Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I here yu. Mines in pieces and in deep freeze... Sent from my iPhone On 2013-03-26, at 3:00 PM, "Bobby Whitehead" wrote: > 1970 Triumph GT-6+ > #39 DP race prepared.... SOMETIMES it runs, I hope by summer I'm in the drivers > seat... > > Bobby Whitehead > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Vince G > To: marty sukey > Cc: FOT > Sent: Tue, March 26, 2013 1:26:17 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers > > Vince Garrett > 1970 Triumph GT6+. Red/Wht/Blk > #144 > Club VARAC (Ontario Canada) > Registered with CASC > > Pretty much stock power train and drive line. I expect to have fun following > all you experts around the course :) > > Holidays booked its just a question of finances and I'm working on it.... > > My first "Out of Canada" event and will be an honor if I can pull it off. > > Looking forward! > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2013-03-26, at 1:45 PM, "marty sukey" wrote: > >> Just a reminder. I know it is early and the season has not even started > for >> the majority out there, if your hoping to compete in the Kastner Cup event > in >> September send me your name and car info so I can add it to the shirt list, >> even if your plans are not fully etched in stone yet. In addition to the >> shirts, having an idea of attendees will make some of the up front planning >> work out better. Not too worry if you end up not being able to make it. > Before >> the shirt orders are sent in I will issue a last call for additions or >> subtractions. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Marty Sukey >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 27 08:46:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D2B040430 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 08:46:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com (imr-db02.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3712340405 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 08:46:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id D875E1C00013F for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 10:43:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mud003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mud003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.195.73]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 95585E000089 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 10:43:54 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m269.sysops.aol.com (64.12.145.230) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 27 Mar 2013 10:43:54 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 10:43:54 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364395434; bh=SQdVk0vdJI4FuyCWrjObysQPg6LG01CgfYo4tPm/Fak=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=t63afhobrAeNcfDrahXDeCXIDIckAoeM1OPnmahhkaRsjHYMzJ/sgOwPvfHFl8985 ZJzJ9F8KrQtp1jg4cidZQZoK8zxGQNl4s3bse7DBQGsFq0QKa4BKGU4+twZJpk8kAV JSQT7pfdF7KH7y0YJQCTSQmdlbRChGpyK6SdKN5I= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b515305aa2297 Subject: [Fot] VSCDA.ORG News you can use....KASTNER CUP 2013 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net VSCDA.ORG is beginning to flesh out information on ELVF and the KASTNER CUP. Please monitor this site as it may answer your questions. There is also a link to ROADAMERICA.COM. Everyone should review these sites, that plan to go. There is something for everyone, whether you are driving or not. TOURING ON THE TRACK SATURDAY AND SUNDAY OLD COURSE RE-ENACTMENT SATURDAY AFTERNOON (RACE & STREET) WELCOME DINNER FRIDAY NIGHT FOR CREW AND OVERCREW PLUS TRIUMPH CAR SHOW (RACE & STREET) GATHER ON THE GREEN. A CAR SHOW AND LIVE MUSIC AT THE OSTHOFF. (SUBMIT YOUR CAR FOR ACCEPTANCE. SATURDAY NIGHT BANQUET FEATURING KAS KASTNER AS SPEAKER. KASTNER CUP IS ON SUNDAY AND AWARDS WILL BE PRESENTED AT THE PODIUM.....WE PLAN ON AN AWARD FOR EACH MODEL TRIUMPH....IN ADDITION TO THE KASTNER CUP....THIS IS A FIRST. Notes: We will want to get as many folks on CREW & OVERCREW as we can. There is some work going on to streamline this process. This will get us all together at the WELCOME DINNER as it should be. This is on Friday night. Thursday night: We are planning to do GROUP TECH in our FOT PADDOCK area...likely between 4-6 PM. I have inquired with a local restaurant that will deliver broasted chicken and pizza to the gate on THURSDAY evening so we can remain on site. Details to be worked out. Early indications: ENTRIES may be a record breaker....certainly this may be the most significant Kastner Cup we have ever had. Please feel to edit and publish this information if you are involved with CLUBS and PUBLICATIONS. Thanks! Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 27 10:07:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8ABD4054B for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 10:07:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1EAF403DD for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 15:32:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.131]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 47C161C000044; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 17:29:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (adsl-71-154-212-19.dsl.sndg02.sbcglobal.net [71.154.212.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 830B0E000090; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 17:29:52 -0400 (EDT) References: <1364324412.87390.YahooMailRC@web182205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Chuck Gee Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 14:29:50 -0700 To: Scott Janzen x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364333393; bh=KjGz5ExwRETgMV/x/9yRTArwh/PSqJiNAqCa4Gc87DM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=SNOSfpzc5JdTHJX8wMCljPjPMTFh7v4fq78cLi/69eaabOSCaxoyc8bLn0NOPmB+M CHxwZCEU6nID8DjCiUuYAkG2qQ8VcDh/Lz+2HtgvTf5EkoS6YlkgeWkf4bRLrrxWCO 7yoMDPkzgRJ1ZgPe+JYOD5yw+wkSnP3mDWtX2o/E= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338351521350108e Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Six.... ;) Chuck On Mar 26, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Scott Janzen wrote: > Scott Janzen 1968 GT6+. With Jason, that makes at least five of the little > buggers, if we are all still running by September. > That would be a hoot. I've never been on the same track with another GT6. > > On Mar 26, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > > 1970 Triumph GT-6+ > #39 DP race prepared.... SOMETIMES it runs, I hope by summer I'm in the > drivers > seat... > > Bobby Whitehead > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Vince G > To: marty sukey > Cc: FOT > Sent: Tue, March 26, 2013 1:26:17 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers > > Vince Garrett > 1970 Triumph GT6+. Red/Wht/Blk > #144 > Club VARAC (Ontario Canada) > Registered with CASC > > Pretty much stock power train and drive line. I expect to have fun > following > all you experts around the course :) > > Holidays booked its just a question of finances and I'm working on it.... > > My first "Out of Canada" event and will be an honor if I can pull it off. > > Looking forward! > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2013-03-26, at 1:45 PM, "marty sukey" wrote: > >> Just a reminder. I know it is early and the season has not even started > for >> the majority out there, if your hoping to compete in the Kastner Cup event > in >> September send me your name and car info so I can add it to the shirt list, >> even if your plans are not fully etched in stone yet. In addition to the >> shirts, having an idea of attendees will make some of the up front planning >> work out better. Not too worry if you end up not being able to make it. > Before >> the shirt orders are sent in I will issue a last call for additions or >> subtractions. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Marty Sukey >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 27 10:08:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0715840E20 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 10:08:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F049403DD for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 15:43:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.87]) by qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id GB701l0081swQuc51Mh8tw; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:41:08 +0000 Received: from [10.186.74.42] ([166.137.182.253]) by omta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id GMgW1l00y5USUTJ3bMgdlo; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:41:03 +0000 References: <1364324412.87390.YahooMailRC@web182205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: James Gray Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 15:40:27 -0600 To: Scott Janzen s=q20121106; t=1364334068; bh=9Bhpu7iaN7ktSgkMI2l6eZqGIiVSnrn3H/WF4id54T4=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=s/DsJLHPU9lL9VMyPZ12kVc1STaDMj3UEnnX56OIJhgjNntROlZTQYDAi0e2L9knq sO0jdvTP1MQbNfI4xOuru+NbmdDuoYyxtvwqvURUT4JA3zzWUy3kvwV0b9yRbzu9Ha f4SbrOVN7OctQHYiQZnm88RcIiXS9V7NFYnPPC80Gblx4/xjiX7a6VhCg1G2ofAzsU U9/oQ0H8LVu7+agoOZVSUol/q3ncIIY/EvdmJ1B5ObeBHTUVw25J2aFv5dXVKOFBl2 vEZ2sSudl3pGPNhY6i5sQYOCuEOrJKsor99pHa/RxZr2WdQI3UHZ8tXUFkDD3WqTYw 2x6sfYGkKQvqw== Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I hear they are pack hunters. Jimg Sent from my iPhone On Mar 26, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Scott Janzen wrote: > Scott Janzen 1968 GT6+. With Jason, that makes at least five of the little > buggers, if we are all still running by September. > That would be a hoot. I've never been on the same track with another GT6. > > On Mar 26, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > > 1970 Triumph GT-6+ > #39 DP race prepared.... SOMETIMES it runs, I hope by summer I'm in the > drivers > seat... > > Bobby Whitehead > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Vince G > To: marty sukey > Cc: FOT > Sent: Tue, March 26, 2013 1:26:17 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers > > Vince Garrett > 1970 Triumph GT6+. Red/Wht/Blk > #144 > Club VARAC (Ontario Canada) > Registered with CASC > > Pretty much stock power train and drive line. I expect to have fun > following > all you experts around the course :) > > Holidays booked its just a question of finances and I'm working on it.... > > My first "Out of Canada" event and will be an honor if I can pull it off. > > Looking forward! > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2013-03-26, at 1:45 PM, "marty sukey" wrote: > >> Just a reminder. I know it is early and the season has not even started > for >> the majority out there, if your hoping to compete in the Kastner Cup event > in >> September send me your name and car info so I can add it to the shirt list, >> even if your plans are not fully etched in stone yet. In addition to the >> shirts, having an idea of attendees will make some of the up front planning >> work out better. Not too worry if you end up not being able to make it. > Before >> the shirt orders are sent in I will issue a last call for additions or >> subtractions. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Marty Sukey >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 27 10:08:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14164294B for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 10:08:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail201c2.megamailservers.com (mail201c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D059B403C7 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 16:08:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.238.89.40] (2.sub-174-252-156.myvzw.com [174.252.156.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail201c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r2QM6PlY015923 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 26 Mar 2013 18:06:27 -0400 References: <1364324412.87390.YahooMailRC@web182205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: John Hasty Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 18:06:22 -0400 To: Scott Janzen a=Zg_tMQ2H9bAA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=wwKFzB6nVsqEbXgiCPT4LQ==:17 a=HHGDD-5mAAAA:8 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=kT0jMGPDrLVwk80LFjYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=i1zE5R4R5dEA:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=wwKFzB6nVsqEbXgiCPT4LQ==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Scot, the only thing I can tell you is to get some night vision goggles to help see through the thick cloud of blue smoke they lay down to prevent you from a clear view of the track. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 26, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Scott Janzen wrote: > Scott Janzen 1968 GT6+. With Jason, that makes at least five of the little > buggers, if we are all still running by September. > That would be a hoot. I've never been on the same track with another GT6. > > On Mar 26, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > > 1970 Triumph GT-6+ > #39 DP race prepared.... SOMETIMES it runs, I hope by summer I'm in the > drivers > seat... > > Bobby Whitehead > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Vince G > To: marty sukey > Cc: FOT > Sent: Tue, March 26, 2013 1:26:17 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers > > Vince Garrett > 1970 Triumph GT6+. Red/Wht/Blk > #144 > Club VARAC (Ontario Canada) > Registered with CASC > > Pretty much stock power train and drive line. I expect to have fun > following > all you experts around the course :) > > Holidays booked its just a question of finances and I'm working on it.... > > My first "Out of Canada" event and will be an honor if I can pull it off. > > Looking forward! > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2013-03-26, at 1:45 PM, "marty sukey" wrote: > >> Just a reminder. I know it is early and the season has not even started > for >> the majority out there, if your hoping to compete in the Kastner Cup event > in >> September send me your name and car info so I can add it to the shirt list, >> even if your plans are not fully etched in stone yet. In addition to the >> shirts, having an idea of attendees will make some of the up front planning >> work out better. Not too worry if you end up not being able to make it. > Before >> the shirt orders are sent in I will issue a last call for additions or >> subtractions. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Marty Sukey >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 27 10:08:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C13642965 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 10:08:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f182.google.com (mail-ia0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EEB8403DD for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 18:31:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ia0-f182.google.com with SMTP id u8so6930898iag.13 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 17:29:34 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:reply-to:x-priority:references :in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:cc:from:date :content-type:mime-version:x-gm-message-state; bh=2yuAirYAY9GWg7R0Ee5IvcOGzRzMI5gH43UCZJuF9lY=; b=RWGxxphvLFasAfm+Zr1okobLa89iDn4kvby5+8wOKxYYKo1eb4/dIhectPDV0sJlT0 7H9s/42d9fMbttTXKmv0PqDEuIUVdu4htv0G1RVcEVp6rOGzHaNhlhGrb6G8NUi6jy3+ TF5dk4Om2a/KTbTfc/oziIW3XO2ifYaR86/BDJYbdMJcN3jQ+c7zllpUMH3VQ9SQOSKb XNeh0SVtaPaYDBLPK2h1Zx4z6zn6KujLtRmvKyl2iFZ4f3aSEXVbjxm24lI18Jb1ARbG MQ/AjvpbUrMEhX2PNgVvuo23aaBffBaIPuMU/TrI+db6U1mqrUIrv+DkXRI64i9c/qPn pLMQ== ng3mr2953036igc.43.1364344174126; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 17:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.188 (bda-74-82-80-128.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id px9sm5290289igc.0.2013.03.26.17.29.32 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 26 Mar 2013 17:29:33 -0700 (PDT) References: <1364324412.87390.YahooMailRC@web182205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <67037F76-019A-4F98-8AE4-484AEEB27ED3@gdhs.com> <0B26EFF2-087F-49B8-B36A-3F3F0288B61D@me.com> Sensitivity: Normal To: "Scott Janzen" ,fot-bounces@autox.team.net,"John Hasty" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 00:29:25 +0000 Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net John, I've moved on to dropping tacks. The smoke screen just seemed too temporary for a race as big as the Kastner Cup. Since Road America is so long, the heads on the tacks wear down over the coarse of a lap and have seemed to go undetected thus far, resulting in a race ending slow leak. Try to get ahead this time, There's no telling what might happen to you back there. These Kastner Cup races are getting pretty competitive. Since I've tried to keep the car legal to the 1972 regulations, you'll perhaps be surprised that the GCR says nothing about prohibiting the dropping of tacks. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Scott Janzen To: John Hasty Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers I always thought that was the MGs Sent from my mobile device On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:06 PM, John Hasty wrote: > Scot, the only thing I can tell you is to get some night vision goggles to help see through the thick cloud of blue smoke they lay down to prevent you from a clear view of the track. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 26, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Scott Janzen wrote: > >> Scott Janzen 1968 GT6+. With Jason, that makes at least five of the little >> buggers, if we are all still running by September. >> That would be a hoot. I've never been on the same track with another GT6. >> >> On Mar 26, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: >> >> 1970 Triumph GT-6+ >> #39 DP race prepared.... SOMETIMES it runs, I hope by summer I'm in the >> drivers >> seat... >> >> Bobby Whitehead >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Vince G >> To: marty sukey >> Cc: FOT >> Sent: Tue, March 26, 2013 1:26:17 PM >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers >> >> Vince Garrett >> 1970 Triumph GT6+. Red/Wht/Blk >> #144 >> Club VARAC (Ontario Canada) >> Registered with CASC >> >> Pretty much stock power train and drive line. I expect to have fun >> following >> all you experts around the course :) >> >> Holidays booked its just a question of finances and I'm working on it.... >> >> My first "Out of Canada" event and will be an honor if I can pull it off. >> >> Looking forward! >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 2013-03-26, at 1:45 PM, "marty sukey" wrote: >> >>> Just a reminder. I know it is early and the season has not even started >> for >>> the majority out there, if your hoping to compete in the Kastner Cup event >> in >>> September send me your name and car info so I can add it to the shirt list, >>> even if your plans are not fully etched in stone yet. In addition to the >>> shirts, having an idea of attendees will make some of the up front planning >>> work out better. Not too worry if you end up not being able to make it. >> Before >>> the shirt orders are sent in I will issue a last call for additions or >>> subtractions. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Marty Sukey >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 27 10:09:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C3FA429CA for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 10:09:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc4-s36.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s36.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.239]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CD98403DD for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:47:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT403-EAS150 ([65.55.90.201]) by snt0-omc4-s36.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 26 Mar 2013 18:45:21 -0700 References: <1364324412.87390.YahooMailRC@web182205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Vince G Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:45:17 -0400 To: Scott Janzen FILETIME=[BDF54940:01CE2A8C] Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Awesome Sent from my iPhone On 2013-03-26, at 4:29 PM, "Scott Janzen" wrote: > Scott Janzen 1968 GT6+. With Jason, that makes at least five of the little > buggers, if we are all still running by September. > That would be a hoot. I've never been on the same track with another GT6. > > On Mar 26, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > > 1970 Triumph GT-6+ > #39 DP race prepared.... SOMETIMES it runs, I hope by summer I'm in the > drivers > seat... > > Bobby Whitehead > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Vince G > To: marty sukey > Cc: FOT > Sent: Tue, March 26, 2013 1:26:17 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers > > Vince Garrett > 1970 Triumph GT6+. Red/Wht/Blk > #144 > Club VARAC (Ontario Canada) > Registered with CASC > > Pretty much stock power train and drive line. I expect to have fun > following > all you experts around the course :) > > Holidays booked its just a question of finances and I'm working on it.... > > My first "Out of Canada" event and will be an honor if I can pull it off. > > Looking forward! > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2013-03-26, at 1:45 PM, "marty sukey" wrote: > >> Just a reminder. I know it is early and the season has not even started > for >> the majority out there, if your hoping to compete in the Kastner Cup event > in >> September send me your name and car info so I can add it to the shirt list, >> even if your plans are not fully etched in stone yet. In addition to the >> shirts, having an idea of attendees will make some of the up front planning >> work out better. Not too worry if you end up not being able to make it. > Before >> the shirt orders are sent in I will issue a last call for additions or >> subtractions. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Marty Sukey >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 27 10:09:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC2D6429B7 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 10:09:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mercury.fastbytes.com (mercury.fastbytes.com [216.183.230.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD784038C for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:18:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from TimDellVostro [192.200.136.236] by mercury.fastbytes.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.00) id A6346640474; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:15:16 -0500 From: "Tim Murphy" To: "'marty sukey'" , "'FOT'" References: Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:14:58 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4qSawuxJnjsRdUQ9CszbZOn2csMgARov0w Content-Language: en-us Organization: FastBytesWireless Inc. Cc: ryan.murphy@fdlco.wi.gov Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tim and Ryan Murphy 1961 TR4 VSCDA ERA Correct Two large T-shirts, please Tim -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of marty sukey Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 12:45 PM To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers Just a reminder. I know it is early and the season has not even started for the majority out there, if your hoping to compete in the Kastner Cup event in September send me your name and car info so I can add it to the shirt list, even if your plans are not fully etched in stone yet. In addition to the shirts, having an idea of attendees will make some of the up front planning work out better. Not too worry if you end up not being able to make it. Before the shirt orders are sent in I will issue a last call for additions or subtractions. Thanks, Marty Sukey _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph@fastbytes.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 27 10:09:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C16A40528 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 10:09:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B427E40321 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 06:49:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id GcdD1l0010xGWP857cnKfD; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:47:19 +0000 Received: from CraigHP ([76.100.209.245]) by omta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id GcnK1l0085JDEd03YcnK0U; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:47:19 +0000 From: "Craig Wensley" To: "'Scott Janzen'" , "'John Hasty'" References: <1364324412.87390.YahooMailRC@web182205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <67037F76-019A-4F98-8AE4-484AEEB27ED3@gdhs.com> <0B26EFF2-087F-49B8-B36A-3F3F0288B61D@me.com> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 08:47:22 -0400 Thread-Index: AQI0ppcjC/P4bBbOpV1mOMu+g0+KxAHHXwCgA2lF3hIBI/HirQF2ZGPRAq88RgGXmLNAUA== Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1364388439; bh=A5Xmkie+d9tTW+F3IKsUA+y9/QxWfVSAKQZ7iuNjYfM=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=McSZMKEu+nGUQdM7s+abqX9zcgRS/OUdvxVr0ja4A7IWyhGPLNuEBB+s0TNoaPR86 KeMwqfoNgTOS1MHbDndnGPGqp5m+j6z1X6yCZknDRkDZUG01keDqW3fi1/7NA4UYR+ Eb5WUMDsXdG0SEQvdHP1M2qt02rmtVX5N+rbMc609e9s2RIqf3z+8lPIWl8vJa9B5x 4bzsVRudNfydgjP7AbPq+gVexNWmv9oMchUwgcSn4FXwkCBFvetZv0z/9mNKD3vC8e r2aXTNSRzVagVy+n/MKX6Kromlwp/9orQKXwh6lynGlaqsn10y+Pc5TIsAKSji0Ven FVYOqKREb2lFQ== Cc: 'FoT Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net OK Scot when did you buy the MG?? -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Scott Janzen Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:25 PM To: John Hasty Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers I always thought that was the MGs Sent from my mobile device On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:06 PM, John Hasty wrote: > Scot, the only thing I can tell you is to get some night vision > goggles to help see through the thick cloud of blue smoke they lay down to prevent you from a clear view of the track. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 26, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Scott Janzen wrote: > >> Scott Janzen 1968 GT6+. With Jason, that makes at least five of the little >> buggers, if we are all still running by September. >> That would be a hoot. I've never been on the same track with another GT6. >> >> On Mar 26, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: >> >> 1970 Triumph GT-6+ >> #39 DP race prepared.... SOMETIMES it runs, I hope by summer I'm in >> the drivers seat... >> >> Bobby Whitehead >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Vince G >> To: marty sukey >> Cc: FOT >> Sent: Tue, March 26, 2013 1:26:17 PM >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers >> >> Vince Garrett >> 1970 Triumph GT6+. Red/Wht/Blk >> #144 >> Club VARAC (Ontario Canada) >> Registered with CASC >> >> Pretty much stock power train and drive line. I expect to have fun >> following >> all you experts around the course :) >> >> Holidays booked its just a question of finances and I'm working on it.... >> >> My first "Out of Canada" event and will be an honor if I can pull it off. >> >> Looking forward! >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 2013-03-26, at 1:45 PM, "marty sukey" wrote: >> >>> Just a reminder. I know it is early and the season has not even >>> started >> for >>> the majority out there, if your hoping to compete in the Kastner Cup event >> in >>> September send me your name and car info so I can add it to the >>> shirt list, >>> even if your plans are not fully etched in stone yet. In addition to >>> the shirts, having an idea of attendees will make some of the up >>> front planning >>> work out better. Not too worry if you end up not being able to make it. >> Before >>> the shirt orders are sent in I will issue a last call for additions >>> or subtractions. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Marty Sukey >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/wensley_tr@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 27 12:03:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9484403EE for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:03:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371FE40517 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 11:58:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-bk0-f54.google.com with SMTP id q16so1576016bkw.27 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 10:56:19 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=LGaebzbPV8Ucf4YdDGyACPYceOEW7Wcqm7jb0gDV4CY=; b=wVca7hwQlePqCJmJr+9Zm6pQq/irtEEVFsn3ugf/OUwgBOkLUSsvHPiGiP4F7VoKqe Wj5FapidKLqvjOmHzuJwZxSn+sLQNp4kyDewdwa2cz9NaOJIxTqazym76vc5G+R1ri23 UQidI5gUQLEVtvq5Gl1LmQxn2WIBiddnLPiuB9E21PiQAg8CzoXzHhaamREYVHIxO5BM 8+CXxaPA6aKkBrjjW78ELgfm43M8knYjA656DXeNV5YqA0I501DZaC8b/4/r5phBgqy2 stq1uKMgZC9JJd7/BmAuajuMoQPGCIyTHJ3f/iprDxVMdOa2Zt62dpRZt63jRL1XMKTZ Gzlg== tg3mr6198770bkb.66.1364406978693; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 10:56:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home (ip-109-85-165-2.web.vodafone.de. [109.85.165.2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gm14sm5493435bkc.7.2013.03.27.10.56.16 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 27 Mar 2013 10:56:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'marty sukey'" , "'FOT'" References: Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 18:56:19 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac4qSaFzYTaNqG86SIOWOnE9ta8KXQAynf6g Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've booked a flight to come and about 3 people would lend their cars to me to have a go with you guys. I also share a room with one of you so all lights are on go for the event :-) Cheers Chris Marx from Germany -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von marty sukey Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. Mdrz 2013 18:45 An: FOT Betreff: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers Just a reminder. I know it is early and the season has not even started for the majority out there, if your hoping to compete in the Kastner Cup event in September send me your name and car info so I can add it to the shirt list, even if your plans are not fully etched in stone yet. In addition to the shirts, having an idea of attendees will make some of the up front planning work out better. Not too worry if you end up not being able to make it. Before the shirt orders are sent in I will issue a last call for additions or subtractions. Thanks, Marty Sukey _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 27 16:58:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EEF3427CE for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 16:58:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E45840EE2 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 16:58:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from AR5J3QR6XV (cpe-70-113-116-224.austin.res.rr.com [70.113.116.224]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MMksB-1UJ2ex39Gp-008Y0Z; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 18:56:06 -0400 From: "FoodDude" To: Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 17:56:17 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4rPWLGhhbu4H9QSbiUc5CzSD6Vhw== Content-Language: en-us 6OH3mXuTbLEUDX7vHh/0o3oXR93+fHM2vVzR88TQmQTkme1KU3 AS2UdTRG1zDoMQpMWrEsFBLguNdoF++JBrv5s1TryvsddbLgsR B5SnE3Xs/XrNtfaidQYMgLyI6YHFJGx8JZWift4rMPF36lITBh ncMeq+M11KdRxWJwMzPA9SweqdIgU+7PC78d59DoK8Vz/DrS5P cnOaFVZT1hWLATZ1PGV/iClD7yA51Z5j2cwN2NydEen5Qpmn3k aaTSrdvsU0FHVs2wGb5kRTjEzz/UlmZG3hVLRfPT2pG+u/C0fI soNcxPSxt+EnKxFZKL0ysA+y4kLMZOt3WAiiaZZ0S Subject: [Fot] CVAR/Hallet arrival Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If you want to be admitted Thursday evening, you MUST be registered for the Friday T&T, according to the track. See ya'll there! Dave Foreman #24 1964 Triumph Spitfire #22 1970 Triumph TR6 (Chump) 1964 Triumph TR4 (X2) 1975 Triumph TR6 (a pattern has developed...) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 27 18:14:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321C14284A for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 18:14:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm28-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm28-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1575E4035A for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 18:11:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.198] by nm28.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2013 00:09:35 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.52] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2013 00:09:35 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp105.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2013 00:09:35 -0000 s=s1024; t=1364429375; bh=zczv4ev5nurrdYHMqms30KFy4kjjmGigEacJedJPgEw=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=K4sIonJQQmee+ZWeUC126C9oF9FYWnEz0dzlRzhOMVbctuGyCr3e1bafBzkTzwASKQMqnN8hOHHmZihUXsPG1jImo5OMrLIrUXcyOyOnSdOnQQTzxsLLa4P7pZZHR/tHpXmW2HSElcXg6mgzE9TTfKV9h1OixvntfuAxXbdmMx0= Htdcf5ZFUEKE5_MjzkkebXBK.pSesYop3oYE1zDzHwJTugo.9Z1nY28SMm9r 7t0oqHzG_QUPD9Ruq1CIYUxXG3N_JwAUXNVacvAHSAjl7hwkYmTWxmsgR7TU X6n2ip0pOR7w71KKIyZjpNJVPyGlmTax0diwjeKHQFX0JKtT8axG_.sigYbf a3VmUhzSRRCfloCIj_VjEs7c.EMKUW_9Hk6wRVwbMByaE1fg9fFzTlH_K3Ue SJa5FC11dm1lz92ir7vQaJ5lXtKXVVmtI9WP8C4asjFPEbZp343jmtLE.xI6 pIJppbpaFEVcIo_6P6jV6xb52bfnHNjZT3agViaMCCULG4D3bX6GJQhseQR3 3PawRMO76Qi8RiIhNphTOYV20fDmVBzTsUr6c7g4H4QAJm0YBm1mz_IJoJFS PCAuGc7XKTyrxG1Hd4xBL8naJxGV4b0ZYW_OqSphEDY1C8.Ba smtp105.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Mar 2013 17:09:35 -0700 PDT From: "Jack Brooks" To: References: <56c40.4ac0bc5f.3e80c8b0@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 17:09:35 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac4o1eqi1YuKoBBdQEug4lfVgDF9rACchADw Subject: Re: [Fot] The Art of Racing in the Rain... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Great book. I was not impressed with his other books though. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BillDentin@aol.com Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 2:23 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] The Art of Racing in the Rain... Amici... Anyone else reading, or read, a book by Garth Stein called, "The Art of Racing in the Rain"? I stumbled onto it as the result of a recent reference to it in the book section of the USA Today. Granted the racing, which keeps coming up over and over again (and clearly this author knows something about racing), but it mostly just provides a background for a sad story to be told about life and human nature. And here's the gimmick...the story is told the eyes of a dog...named Enzo. And Enzo is one hip dog. He is self-educated via TV. If he could talk, and had an opposable thumb, he could probably save the world. He knows all about humans, their lives, and racing...for that matter. I am only up to Chapter 9, but it is quite fascinating. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 27 20:18:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE03D4283B for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 20:18:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm21.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm21.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.222]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1404740525 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 20:17:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.194] by nm21.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2013 02:15:38 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.96] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2013 02:15:38 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1001.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2013 02:15:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 84195 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Mar 2013 02:15:37 -0000 s=s1024; t=1364436937; bh=184OWL4I1Rr6syL7khQ3DzpTv56aH1EumSBAS+Lo634=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bHAHFAGQCHJ55/uxk2P/hsJCVSkYZWJRF3hVpwrW+rQz9gkM+yO7Hoj8io45PLwhZJqjY2dNW/FzLjH7u66NlCJRKd9DoRoKC+PZdqasiuFslzWKBMFg1P4/VqAZ5DkIsaWEJ8WFSFTZg8kZeeyxXlq9sEvlWgxdF22LtwCDYps= s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xd5ZTL/kmLxzXHEpEdc1IYZNWD8ENL2jyACNfV68z8gMEUuNMzGwv/gajg4BOsq68J/QdATgck65eS3FP1V/YQ/yQ+/SZsYiTn/jbFpVVSveXE05UgGyNJ8P9D1naPqCT8th36XFE57hvc1RuHkjA5u6jRV/1cB5J29wpcMcfYI=; cdQ7N.KX0gj1j_HBjEyFK.TU6YCVcAwT2yOl08bNS1exIWz76dI3ruMSxMWP niQgklAtEtW1AeEDtGKDvN15wPQ7uG.u8lOtmh.yjP6lZoHy40nidDemgql5 YSNyJxMQDvb5UGQsZ7T._bS8g4Yvt_iNUe9PGvSdBKhD9.t.tO4XWX0AJEuQ EprdMk9plDUc3nA60kWZVIxBQ4UGJb9DZySYuMhNlMaFFRmoFDV.75dXX.QH BV4bG1w14cIMc5FkDMzU5m4Zgf6PAwMGKre4bKdYCL_U.3fDkNwOnc_zfBra oNd4R9kseooFPzFoy_nuQMG.wTfSvs2IfUWYzpg9_79WjcsVGFyTYz4n2Qhr CSWTMKnq6fboxKsHkbgjiv1lvSuF83CfvXNL.trzkI4aRmRYOL7TueZbWeSL tBTbQs.C3RXbcO76xdAjnuKW48DhYH9kpeQVUzmCi1pbbqm6DLCbxxkJUJKG HPJ39FEAGKiFw8fn9xsuoT2qdnNtCDbgAjPFYYNyCJvWLzH2fBadRtz9QLXo IAPWM4otDbqIzvb.fwdaG0P0jVlIvprNdM.3yTNpA3yPlZntLUCMVSOV6HHM kUULDTaGjI.Kach1yLTaIcOpGWXGRk.W9DEmPF1Y5GQ-- Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 19:15:37 PDT R3JvdXA6IFRoaXMgd2FzIGZvcndhcmRlZCB0byBtZSBieSBhIGZseWluZyBidWRkeS4gTm90IGF0IGFsbCBUcml1bXBoIHJlbGF0ZWQsIGJ1dCB3ZWxsIHdvcnRoIHRoZSB3YXRjaC4gVGhpcyB3YXMgYW4gZXBpc29kZSBvZiBUZXhhcyBDb3VudHJ5IFJlcG9ydGVyLCBhbmQgaXQgc2hvd3MgdGhhdCBub3QgZXZlcnl0aGluZyBoYXMgYmVjb21lIG1vZGVybml6ZWQuDQpFbmpveQ0KLUVkLQ0KDQotLS0gT24gV2VkLCAzLzI3LzEzLCBKYWNrIEwuIFR5bGVyIDx0ZG1zYWxlc0BmbGFzaC5uZXQ.IHdyb3RlOg0KDQoBMAEBAQE- Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 19:15:37 -0700 (PDT) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Fw: VINTAGE MACHINE SHOP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Group: This was forwarded to me by a flying buddy. Not at all Triumph related, but well worth the watch. This was an episode of Texas Country Reporter, and it shows that not everything has become modernized. Enjoy -Ed- --- On Wed, 3/27/13, Jack L. Tyler wrote: From: Jack L. Tyler Subject: VINTAGE MACHINE SHOP To: "Jack L. Tyler" Date: Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 8:30 AM Hi Yball, Just thought you might enjoy this. Jack Tyler B Who needs CAD? A stick and some dirt work just fine. Take a few moments and watch this. American Heartland. B B Real work, keep it B simple, get the job done with pride and quality. B Remember, take the time in your life to stop and "have a Dr. Pepper (soda pop) and B some peanuts". B B http://www.youtube.com/embed/BckZ4i1BzF0?feature=player_embedded B B B B _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 27 20:46:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D97B42832 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 20:46:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05EED42451 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 20:45:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F14A073A for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 20:45:21 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 20:45:20 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16 To: FOT References: <1364436937.35872.YahooMailClassic@web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: VINTAGE MACHINE SHOP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Very nice. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 27 20:46:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC49042811 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 20:46:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mercury.fastbytes.com (mercury.fastbytes.com [216.183.230.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABD942451 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 20:46:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from TimDellVostro [192.200.136.236] by mercury.fastbytes.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.00) id AE548000484; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 21:43:32 -0500 From: "Tim Murphy" To: "'EDWARD BARNARD'" , "'FOT'" References: <1364436937.35872.YahooMailClassic@web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 21:43:12 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4rWi6l4SxczYtXRfK9YrXtnsBrvgAA03MA Content-Language: en-us Organization: FastBytesWireless Inc. Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: VINTAGE MACHINE SHOP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That's probably one of the last machine shops in the country that's run with line shafts! There was one in Fond du Lac (WI), a long narrow shop with a single line shaft, around about 1963 or 1964. I think it was gone by 1970. Too bad, a neat place. At the time it was the only place in town you could get some decent hardware. Tim -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of EDWARD BARNARD Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:16 PM To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Fw: VINTAGE MACHINE SHOP Group: This was forwarded to me by a flying buddy. Not at all Triumph related, but well worth the watch. This was an episode of Texas Country Reporter, and it shows that not everything has become modernized. Enjoy -Ed- --- On Wed, 3/27/13, Jack L. Tyler wrote: From: Jack L. Tyler Subject: VINTAGE MACHINE SHOP To: "Jack L. Tyler" Date: Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 8:30 AM Hi Yball, Just thought you might enjoy this. Jack Tyler B Who needs CAD? A stick and some dirt work just fine. Take a few moments and watch this. American Heartland. B B Real work, keep it B simple, get the job done with pride and quality. B Remember, take the time in your life to stop and "have a Dr. Pepper (soda pop) and B some peanuts". B B http://www.youtube.com/embed/BckZ4i1BzF0?feature=player_embedded B B B B _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph@fastbytes.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 27 21:05:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C4C42801 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 21:05:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp05.bis6.us.blackberry.com (smtp05.bis6.us.blackberry.com [74.82.85.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F69742269 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 21:05:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from b4.c8.bise6.blackberry ([192.168.0.104]) by srs.bis6.us.blackberry.com (8.13.7 TEAMON/8.13.7) with ESMTP id r2S2kX2F030228 for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 03:02:52 GMT Sensitivity: Normal To: "FOT" From: gasket.works@gte.net Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 03:02:36 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I went to my local auto zone today. Behind the counter a clerk perhaps 28y/o asked me what he could get for me. I asked "Where do you have your timing lights?". He looked at me then calmly went to the computer and asked "What year and model?". I should have known better. I was there a couple of months ago. At that time I asked for rod bearings for a small block chevy. it was a different clerk similarly aged. He asked "What year and model?". I said "1972 chevelle 350". He responds "front bearings?" "No- all of them" I say. "Both sides?" He queries. Then I get this "a ha" moment when I seriously believed we are doing an Abbott and Costello "who's on first". So I tell him " I don't think you understand" - "Engine rod bearings standard size". So he looks at me and says. "What's that?". I look at my son and then back at the clerk and say "I made a mistake I thought this was an auto store". We walked out. I am going to write to their corporate office. M Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 27 21:31:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE95F42837 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 21:31:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s41.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s41.snt0.hotmail.com [65.54.61.92]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD384068D for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 21:27:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT402-EAS501 ([65.55.90.71]) by snt0-omc2-s41.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 27 Mar 2013 20:25:24 -0700 References: <2057774768-1364439772-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-459266624-@b4.c8.bise6.blackberry> From: Vince G Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 23:25:21 -0400 To: "gasket.works@gte.net" FILETIME=[E2A00E60:01CE2B63] Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net OMG Sent from my iPhone On 2013-03-27, at 11:03 PM, gasket.works@gte.net wrote: > I went to my local auto zone today. Behind the counter a clerk perhaps 28y/o asked me what he could get for me. I asked "Where do you have your timing lights?". He looked at me then calmly went to the computer and asked "What year and model?". > > I should have known better. I was there a couple of months ago. At that time I asked for rod bearings for a small block chevy. it was a different clerk similarly aged. He asked "What year and model?". I said "1972 chevelle 350". He responds "front bearings?" > "No- all of them" I say. "Both sides?" He queries. Then I get this "a ha" moment when I seriously believed we are doing an Abbott and Costello "who's on first". So I tell him " I don't think you understand" - "Engine rod bearings standard size". So he looks at me and says. "What's that?". I look at my son and then back at the clerk and say "I made a mistake I thought this was an auto store". We walked out. > > I am going to write to their corporate office. > > M > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 02:39:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 522FE42586 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 02:39:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41D540527 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 02:37:59 -0600 (MDT) a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:17 a=7KaaxAUCt-sA:10 a=mIYdpXCMWTQA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=0S87MeqRbgAA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=sskR1B85AAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=UTVbDb2TTvu13m1nXaEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=p5ZAGxalUHUA:10 a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:117 Received: from [67.255.16.235] ([67.255.16.235:49392] helo=Russlaptop) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 7A/2B-01418-DD004515; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 08:35:42 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: , "'FOT'" References: <2057774768-1364439772-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-459266624-@b4.c8.bise6.blackberry> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 04:35:39 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4rYNPDXBqdTZPYQDeT0M8wZkXM+QALEd5g Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I can remember when there were some 9 auto parts stores in this area and everyone of them had people that knew their stuff and many were motorheads who contributed expertise and experiences over the counter. On top of this, they had everything imaginable even if it was on a back shelf under a layer of dust. Oh, and might I add that everything was Made in USA back then and it always fit. Now there are three "chain" stores that have 35 different smelling dash ornaments, wax and googahs and any part is from some third world country and two days away. There's a 50/50 chance it will fit and function. Welcome to the ugly new world. It's not confined to auto parts stores......... Me, I long for the way it was back 40-50 years ago. On many levels! Russ Moore -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of gasket.works@gte.net Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:03 PM To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- I went to my local auto zone today. Behind the counter a clerk perhaps 28y/o asked me what he could get for me. I asked "Where do you have your timing lights?". He looked at me then calmly went to the computer and asked "What year and model?". I should have known better. I was there a couple of months ago. At that time I asked for rod bearings for a small block chevy. it was a different clerk similarly aged. He asked "What year and model?". I said "1972 chevelle 350". He responds "front bearings?" "No- all of them" I say. "Both sides?" He queries. Then I get this "a ha" moment when I seriously believed we are doing an Abbott and Costello "who's on first". So I tell him " I don't think you understand" - "Engine rod bearings standard size". So he looks at me and says. "What's that?". I look at my son and then back at the clerk and say "I made a mistake I thought this was an auto store". We walked out. I am going to write to their corporate office. M Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 06:30:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D044283F for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 06:30:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s33.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s33.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.108]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 291F54043F for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 06:25:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W129 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s33.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 28 Mar 2013 05:23:15 -0700 From: marty sukey To: , FOT Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 08:23:14 -0400 References: <2057774768-1364439772-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-459266624-@b4.c8.bise6.blackberry> FILETIME=[057332F0:01CE2BAF] Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I would venture to guess that corporate wouldn't know a main bearing from a babushka either. My local NAPA appears to be the only ones left that speak the language. Marty > I am going to write to their corporate office. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 08:04:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 888EF428AA for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 08:04:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f52.google.com (mail-qa0-f52.google.com [209.85.216.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB97424B2 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 08:03:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id bs12so1549500qab.4 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 07:01:32 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=t9TXOmNJv11n05NU/FeuRKYSwWB0BeHUUFr0RCFsPds=; b=xulWEO0KHy7YaX4QB5F7QargImashz1m/BXo10G7v5c8URDLKBHa+WuUwjjY7CPseL Cf4Z1eIFH9FHvM0c30YnImUMYWTlg1Y47ADgjrcUuuscMFPam3pxTgAYK7DnqUCfk/na oYiwM/PHSN6wMOetX28Y6esykUwqeFTZH24g9F6qq7Upq/OsN48h7Np+N6lmv3ztpDFZ PssdiHu2RBecgtXXBkkemX5l+LvOGQK0bXbjbWcZb7oJTI7+l/g35R8hIbAyG5IrKxec yQ7JTwJox0nIypt6X8nvVkxtqthWv7rCJoTfS6mvDgT8z3kUvJi5n329Dc1VXbW5CVPB akJw== b31mr1318733qck.83.1364479292371; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 07:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t3sm25402550qen.5.2013.03.28.07.01.30 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 28 Mar 2013 07:01:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 09:01:28 -0500 References: <2057774768-1364439772-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-459266624-@b4.c8.bise6.blackberry> To: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Napas in our area have disappeared. The last independent auto parts store in Austin sold out about 15 years ago. Curiously, the best service I've had in recent years is from a 20-something young lady at O'Reilly's in Bastrop, TX. I would try to get her to serve me since she would take the time to research, making phone calls to the central catalog library if necessary, until she had exhausted the possibilities. She said her dad made sure she knew how to find what auto parts customers were looking for. Too bad she's moved on, so now all I get is the blank stare and a flat reply of "we don't have that" with no attempt to dig deeper. But -- occasionally I will insist that they keep looking, ignoring what the computer says about their inventory, and calling in to the catalog library if necessary to see what crosses over or what can be ordered. But one of the real gems for non-engine related stuff in Austin is Breed & Co. (Ace) hardware. I can go in there and say, "I'm trying to fabricate something that will perform this function; it has to be made of X and be about so big." These guys (about half of them over retirement age, so probably just working there to stay busy) love a challenge and will often find me something I can adapt to work. Duncan (Texas) 1952 Morgan Plus 4 #6 red On Mar 28, 2013, at 7:23 AM, marty sukey wrote: > I would venture to guess that corporate wouldn't know a main bearing from a > babushka either. My local NAPA appears to be the only ones left that speak > the language. > > Marty _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 08:17:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0448428E5 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 08:17:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bosmailout13.eigbox.net (bosmailout13.eigbox.net [66.96.189.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525084282F for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 08:13:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bosmailscan15.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.15]) by bosmailout13.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1ULDYD-0000lo-1o for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:11:33 -0400 Received: from bosimpout03.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.3]) by bosmailscan15.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1ULDR9-0001gk-GN for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:04:15 -0400 Received: from bosauthsmtp03.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.3]) by bosimpout03.eigbox.net with NO UCE id H1ym1l00F03yW76011ymgJ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 09:58:46 -0400 a=7qRFNYxl3jRAc8MtgveisA==:17 a=3-MZCWuAnnEA:10 a=mIYdpXCMWTQA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=0S87MeqRbgAA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=sskR1B85AAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=JqB1UK1UAAAA:8 a=0DxvHOVPAAAA:8 a=WmAvWdJVAAAA:8 a=kgVoXvIAe2dnnI3HZMsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=p5ZAGxalUHUA:10 a=_N1_2OQGrOcn97vX:21 a=ckvLFCDUPDuaf_ia:21 a=6uKCkKhFq2wXOH2GoQX8aA==:117 Received: from ppp-70-253-88-33.dsl.austtx.swbell.net ([70.253.88.33] helo=zap6) by bosauthsmtp03.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1ULDR9-00037Y-5o for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:04:15 -0400 From: "Robert MacKenzie" To: "'FOT'" References: <2057774768-1364439772-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-459266624-@b4.c8.bise6.blackberry> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 09:04:11 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4rYMkJTYxN+QTVQdWGb33TtQ2BjQAW/RRg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net My recent AutoZone experience: @ parts counter Me: Do you have Champion RN9YC spark plugs in stock? AutoZone Guy: How many do you need? Me: I need four but I'll buy eight if you have them. AZG: What car are they for? Me: I know you don't have the car in your database. AZG: That's the only way I can look them up? Me: You can't search by part number? AZG: No. Me: Really? .well ok, it's a 1962 Triumph Spitfire AZG: Well there's your problem, we don't carry motorcycle parts. Me: It's a car. >Click click click. AZG: No, we don't have that car listed in out parts database but let me check the stock shelves. >At this point AutoZone Guy spends about 5 minutes going through every bin containing Champion spark-plugs looking for RN9YCs. AZG: We don't seem to have them on the shelf; what car was that again? Me: 1962 Triumph Spitfire AZG: we have a '63 Herald with an 1100 engine. Me: That's it. Same engine. What plug does it list? AZG: Champion RN9YC Me: Do you have it in stock? AZG: No. Robert MacKenzie -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of gasket.works@gte.net Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:03 PM To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- I went to my local auto zone today. Behind the counter a clerk perhaps 28y/o asked me what he could get for me. I asked "Where do you have your timing lights?". He looked at me then calmly went to the computer and asked "What year and model?". I should have known better. I was there a couple of months ago. At that time I asked for rod bearings for a small block chevy. it was a different clerk similarly aged. He asked "What year and model?". I said "1972 chevelle 350". He responds "front bearings?" "No- all of them" I say. "Both sides?" He queries. Then I get this "a ha" moment when I seriously believed we are doing an Abbott and Costello "who's on first". So I tell him " I don't think you understand" - "Engine rod bearings standard size". So he looks at me and says. "What's that?". I look at my son and then back at the clerk and say "I made a mistake I thought this was an auto store". We walked out. I am going to write to their corporate office. M Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/list@mackenzie.aero _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 08:48:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF7B44283C for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 08:48:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C83C40442 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 08:45:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.73]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E6C2A1C000082; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:42:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mud003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mud003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.195.73]) by mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 717EAE000087; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:42:58 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m269.sysops.aol.com (64.12.145.230) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:42:58 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:42:58 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364481778; bh=TxK9l+/Zc7zZ3TCtagvKG+5EUNHtzK/++X9hUHFhDUw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YtMq1hZFlOBObU0Q0abefy07H1xLiSVDBNy3l2CosM2yOMr8QlqSSz44S1opuR2Ye Jk1sWU+82pSTRWZGMNN1CgVZmY3fDjtmVF/RKSBHiyOmiv0CYHLJUgXgKmt/P3JTlV UqKwmBFs3p43aPD7c0zQJtkajKL/Fn0KCclOpMG0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2949515456f25ea6 Subject: [Fot] KASTNER CUP 2013 OSTHOFF RESERVATIONS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT: Our FRIENDS OF TRIUMPH group likely has a record number of advance reservations in place for 1-2-3 Bedroom Suites at the OSTHOFF, for the ELVF. (The suites are very cost effective when shared with other friends and family and loaded with amenities.) We exceeded our contract agreement a long time ago and they wanted to rewrite the contract. I ignored this request, but they have continued to accept reservations........I will be checking on the status of reservations, shortly. If you are having a problem, we will try to work it out. Regard this a last call on this subject. OSTHOFF.COM is their website. When calling in use "FRIENDS OF TRIUMPH" for the discount code. If attempting to reserve online, use "FRIENDS". If you want more days than what is specified in the contract, I am sure they will work with you. The OSTHOFF is the center of several activities on Saturday afternoon. "GATHER ON THE GREEN", LIVE MUSIC, OLD COURSE RE-ENACTMENT, and the VSCDA BANQUET with KAS as SPEAKER. The OSTHOFF is very close to ROAD AMERICA and once at the OSTHOFF everything in the village is within walking distance. This can be a very pleasurable weekend with low stress, if you are aware of all of the planning. Monitor "VSCDA.ORG" for information as it is loaded in. It will have PDFs on entering GATHER ON THE GREEN, the OLD COURSE RE-ENACTMENT, as well as DRIVER ENTRIES and TRACK TOURING. VSCDA is a class act and this is likely the best vintage race event in North America Joe Alexander KASTNER CUP 2013 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 09:04:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C70428ED for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 09:04:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5772427E5 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 09:02:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id H0hw1l00F1GXsucA12zova; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 14:59:48 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id H2zn1l00t2yr1eL8U2zoW9; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 14:59:48 +0000 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 14:59:47 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: gasket works s=q20121106; t=1364482788; bh=6lKKM+Q9RfPPEruPwBp7BLHeob3/crpfdxNOjETRP8U=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=AF3Ser/vDAFt2YgBWhmOqmVgYZz4vi+/vqoFJmXhF7GNzfyi8F7l7xM1S0EaQqZE9 l3RA0NGctSN6JPsODnUJ+xV453emgUgXURz7HB8qTkcGkHjKHP/N5dJq7lNo3KQH/P fZ4vCqEf/BlYwhPOE9dNsXuKf+c9cImCQnVJbCORfShT9Fc9SCowHVa4SYuVs/E3XL QZ/WoFGcEC6LxY/yn/pfLMxZIXc0OEFKilQHqt5t1Dky59vjuj/75R5Gmy4iHR+O3Y go/DTqFsDdpNCuwCtPo+DZjBuxuW/HuqFmKKKUboT/eJudYFaYFHqoIvOdVhsT02jK 8K0/XU1jcqauw== Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I recently went into an AutoZone to grab a couple head lights for my TR3 and the fellow asked to look up the car. When he looked it up he said they didn't have them in stock. I said, dude just point me to the head light isle and gee wiz, there they were. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "gasket works" To: "FOT" Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 8:02:36 PM Subject: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- I went to my local auto zone today. Behind the counter a clerk perhaps 28y/o asked me what he could get for me. I asked "Where do you have your timing lights?". He looked at me then calmly went to the computer and asked "What year and model?". I should have known better. I was there a couple of months ago. At that time I asked for rod bearings for a small block chevy. it was a different clerk similarly aged. He asked "What year and model?". I said "1972 chevelle 350". He responds "front bearings?" "No- all of them" I say. "Both sides?" He queries. Then I get this "a ha" moment when I seriously believed we are doing an Abbott and Costello "who's on first". So I tell him " I don't think you understand" - "Engine rod bearings standard size". So he looks at me and says. "What's that?". I look at my son and then back at the clerk and say "I made a mistake I thought this was an auto store". We walked out. I am going to write to their corporate office. M Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 09:26:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A055427E5 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 09:26:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc4-s15.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s15.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.154]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A6904257A for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 09:26:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU176-W23 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s15.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 28 Mar 2013 08:23:43 -0700 From: Greg Petrolati To: Robert MacKenzie , "fot@autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 15:23:43 +0000 References: <2057774768-1364439772-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-459266624-@b4.c8.bise6.blackberry>, <023001ce2bbd$21767df0$646379d0$@aero> FILETIME=[3BC67B00:01CE2BC8] Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is nothing new for AutoZone... I ran into the same problem back in the early "oughts" with my TR4. I wanted Bosch platinum spark plugs for the Greenman. I had crossed referenced them previously with a Saab plug, which I previously happened across by accident in the auto department of Walmart. The kid at the computer told me "there was no such spark plug as there wasn't anything like a 1962 Triumph TR4 in his computer"... so it didn't exist... I asked to see his manager then took the both of them out to the parking lot to show them the "nonexistent" car. When the manager started getting pissy I walked away. I went to NAPA where there were car guys and not shoe salesmen on staff. Greg Petrolati Lafayette, Oregon That's not a leak... My car's just marking its territory... > From: list@mackenzie.aero > To: fot@autox.team.net > Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 09:04:11 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- > > My recent AutoZone experience: > @ parts counter > Me: Do you have Champion RN9YC spark plugs in stock? > AutoZone Guy: How many do you need? > Me: I need four but I'll buy eight if you have them. > AZG: What car are they for? > Me: I know you don't have the car in your database. > AZG: That's the only way I can look them up? > Me: You can't search by part number? > AZG: No. > Me: Really? .well ok, it's a 1962 Triumph Spitfire > AZG: Well there's your problem, we don't carry motorcycle parts. > Me: It's a car. > >Click click click. > AZG: No, we don't have that car listed in out parts database but let me > check the stock shelves. > >At this point AutoZone Guy spends about 5 minutes going through every bin > containing Champion spark-plugs looking for RN9YCs. > AZG: We don't seem to have them on the shelf; what car was that again? > Me: 1962 Triumph Spitfire > AZG: we have a '63 Herald with an 1100 engine. > Me: That's it. Same engine. What plug does it list? > AZG: Champion RN9YC > Me: Do you have it in stock? > AZG: No. > > Robert MacKenzie > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of gasket.works@gte.net > Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:03 PM > To: FOT > Subject: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- > > I went to my local auto zone today. Behind the counter a clerk perhaps > 28y/o asked me what he could get for me. I asked "Where do you have your > timing lights?". He looked at me then calmly went to the computer and asked > "What year and model?". > > I should have known better. I was there a couple of months ago. At that > time I asked for rod bearings for a small block chevy. it was a different > clerk similarly aged. He asked "What year and model?". I said "1972 > chevelle 350". He responds "front bearings?" > "No- all of them" I say. "Both sides?" He queries. Then I get this "a ha" > moment when I seriously believed we are doing an Abbott and Costello "who's > on first". So I tell him " I don't think you understand" - "Engine rod > bearings standard size". So he looks at me and says. "What's that?". I > look at my son and then back at the clerk and say "I made a mistake I > thought this was an auto store". We walked out. > > I am going to write to their corporate office. > > M > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/list@mackenzie.aero > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/greenman62@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 09:34:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D13F94283F for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 09:34:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from e8.ny.us.ibm.com (e8.ny.us.ibm.com [32.97.182.138]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002EC4257A for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 09:32:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from /spool/local by e8.ny.us.ibm.com with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! 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Violators will be prosecuted; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:30:13 -0400 Received: from d01relay06.pok.ibm.com (d01relay06.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.116]) by d01dlp03.pok.ibm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B2B0C9001A for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:30:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d01av04.pok.ibm.com (d01av04.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.64]) by d01relay06.pok.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id r2SFUCmo29687932 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:30:12 -0400 Received: from d01av04.pok.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d01av04.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id r2SFUBqP006019 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:30:12 -0400 Received: from d01ml099.pok.ibm.com (d01ml099.pok.ibm.com [9.63.8.34]) by d01av04.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVin) with ESMTP id r2SFU8MU005628 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:30:10 -0400 References: To: fot@autox.team.net From: George Harmuth Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:30:02 -0400 ZX853FP2HF5|February, 2013) at 03/28/2013 11:30:10 x-cbid: 13032815-9360-0000-0000-000011838820 Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 76, Issue 39 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Another sign of the times. From another Triumph forum I follow, QH parts are drying up, limited to stock on hand. Are my street spits going to go hungry? With Chinese parts like Chinese food, an hour later you need more. Quinton Hazell Cheadle sold, other sites closing http://www.tyrepress.com/News/quinton_hazell_cheadle_sold_other_sites_closing.html mike h G. Michael Harmuth Software Engineer Automated Material Handling Equipment Engineering Services 845-894-8088 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 09:34:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851524285D for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 09:34:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7881F4257A for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 09:33:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id H2MZ1l00D0x6nqcA13WhC1; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 15:30:41 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id H3Wh1l00F2yr1eL8Y3Wh9F; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 15:30:41 +0000 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 15:30:41 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: marty sukey s=q20121106; t=1364484641; bh=La8GDRSsp4W59mEdvUy3pkO1t4NweSe9OoHO9U6pgyQ=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=TCta5w73R0AObwTPeBupAHmm3SEFR/8ma8+aGBbkCR8o8xEGtjJXeOooJwZE97CKp oWiJ8gRqWhFMZr0IE4EVHIOBWe86lrSMNXwiyJWss96kXplWxZEvKyStOYevMg6Ga1 JpaJ9Bc3R1S2PBUpTtHB1qQX6ujdGxHChvKetM7wrohhL1u7vHhwUZ2/uW1Y/wla4v 6uVuSbfICPASx3ppeP/uTUyYc7wFu/y+uKxxO8L4QQXfnahQcOx7/kT+GeMNxXh150 /ttn9XORgjp/XVEOTptPKBIgXIgBlO2U4qY9jJfLcNTTzfmNVCahhQglfD8G/v+x+j 4OKGtCungTs+Q== Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Marty et al, I will be attending the Kastner Cup. I haven't missed one since '08 at The Glen but I still haven't driven in one. I would of course love to be able to drive my TR3 in this years event. I'm working on getting my car accepted in CSRG now and I plan on racing soon. I had the car teched at an HMSA event at Laguna this past weekend and besides the Hoosier Speedsters, it's very close to ready. I need to install a fire extinguisher, knew that, raise the fuel cell vent line, didn't know that and place an on/off sticker next to the safety switch, knew that too. The car weighs 1988 lbs., without driver. Cool. Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "marty sukey" To: "FOT" Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:44:49 AM Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers Just a reminder. I know it is early and the season has not even started for the majority out there, if your hoping to compete in the Kastner Cup event in September send me your name and car info so I can add it to the shirt list, even if your plans are not fully etched in stone yet. In addition to the shirts, having an idea of attendees will make some of the up front planning work out better. Not too worry if you end up not being able to make it. Before the shirt orders are sent in I will issue a last call for additions or subtractions. Thanks, Marty Sukey _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 09:49:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5B742822 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 09:49:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [66.147.249.253]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 41AD54257A for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 09:46:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 2527 invoked by uid 0); 28 Mar 2013 15:44:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO just64.justhost.com) (173.254.28.64) by oproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 28 Mar 2013 15:44:20 -0000 Received: from [173.22.113.197] (port=50172 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ULEzz-0005HN-SL for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 09:44:20 -0600 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:44:20 -0500 To: "fot@autox.team.net" From: Tony Drews References: <2057774768-1364439772-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-459266624-@b4.c8.bise6.blackberry> <023001ce2bbd$21767df0$646379d0$@aero> {sentby:smtp auth 173.22.113.197 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I was in my local O'Reilly's and had just the opposite experience. Set an alternator on the counter and the dude says - Oh, I see you've converted it to one-wire. Would you like a one-wire version? Didn't have to jump through the "what car did it come from" dance at all. And, I ordered the spark plugs by number (NGK BP7HS). So not EVERYONE has lost the ability to properly service us. Tony At 10:23 AM 3/28/2013, Greg Petrolati wrote: >This is nothing new for AutoZone... I ran into the same problem back in >the >early "oughts" with my TR4. I wanted Bosch platinum spark plugs for >the >Greenman. I had crossed referenced them previously with a Saab plug, which I >previously happened across by accident in the auto department of Walmart. The >kid at the > computer told me "there was no such spark plug as there wasn't >anything > like a 1962 Triumph TR4 in his computer"... so it didn't exist... I >asked to see his manager then took the both of them out to the parking >lot to >show them the "nonexistent" car. When the manager started getting >pissy I >walked away. I went to NAPA where there were car guys and not shoe salesmen on >staff. > >Greg Petrolati Lafayette, Oregon > >That's not a leak... My car's just marking its territory... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 10:05:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF55C406AE for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:05:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6DD040ED7 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:01:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.204]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A7EC01C00014B; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:59:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mud003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mud003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.195.73]) by mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4DE01E000081; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:59:27 -0400 (EDT) From: N197TR4@cs.com Full-name: N197TR4 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:59:27 -0400 (EDT) To: tony@tonydrews.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364486367; bh=9AttSKr3wyxDGQPi2xcEzg092T/SxwPSxzxhLyQUdGQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jrmNn7yaIPGpRVPyKztCw4+jG1fvyDL/suKb4cvwDzaTyFnl4ADVqY9vWGScK6+3z Mv5XhjmaJ/yW84RFllqGQ5xDHX4FDhI2JZFof6j5Rqvv9Mcid2wyum1B76cwvCApu9 OiypAb5xXdnQw2tPqq2F7BxWYDdNQHNLy/wOpusg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cc515468df61fe Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Our favorite NGKBP7HS spark plug is commonly used in GOLF CARS, so they are readily available at most parts stores! > I was in my local O'Reilly's and had just the opposite > experience. Set an alternator on the counter and the dude says - Oh, > I see you've converted it to one-wire. Would you like a one-wire > version? Didn't have to jump through the "what car did it come from" > dance at all. And, I ordered the spark plugs by number (NGK > BP7HS). So not EVERYONE has lost the ability to properly service us. > > Tony > > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 10:11:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43ECA428A7 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:11:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914DD4042D for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 13:00:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id GiEw1l0021wfjNsA2iyWei; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 18:58:30 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.4] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id GiyU1l00p4L5TyG8jiyVro; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 18:58:30 +0000 From: Bud R To: Friends of triumph Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:58:28 -0600 s=q20121106; t=1364410710; bh=UohjhZfofOOcH9XPMq9UtlElmC0igvg+6oTiv31UZkk=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=IYRYmFsIn44uP7QxaMu6dj1GUoAFJ4tfbEhB+5dRrq8x5Eie4xT5yJarNYGjKN1nl sXuDIrkGcFFqGd+wBozWlT+I48bxfQ311bYn7Q/ipq4VCtH9c8rOk73kTAl3wMhkVW TNpNwccpe/k91vrgntnjEEI+2/3uDN20jbWsAn1pCrLYltGVyPJSjPzdO45GWFDuIh rn71QbEzhTK9mPFS8z1h0zzzCjXLcBxIcE6WLwaOIlTzXn70IQqYhtu4jejhZK+Rd5 nRGubGIEb8XMZPyjuyVzkXhwxH/saPSdGez5B3D5Uukm47DF1/edYCqGXRyALh6+6r 5y955Wk3PyM/A== Cc: Jeff Speer Subject: [Fot] Praise for Hoosier Racing Tire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've always been willing to complain when venders disappoint or don't provide products as advertised so I'm glad to be able to heap some praise for an outstanding vender. I want to commend the Corporate Office at Hoosier Racing Tire, and Jeff Speer in particular, for handling an issue that had come up with the Hoosier tires on my Spitfire. Thanks also to Jim Gray for recommending that I call Hoosier about the air pressure loss I kept having. He said that Hoosier was a company that stands behind their tires and he could not have been more right. It is obvious why Hoosier tires are so respected and used. They focus on customer service and satisfaction. Jeff Speer was a pleasure to work with and he worked hard with his people at Hoosier Racing Tire to make things right. Here's his contact info. if you have tire needs. Jeffrey A. Speer Product Manager 65465 US Hwy 31 Lakeville, IN 46536 www.hoosiertire.com Phone: 574-784-3152 Fax: 574-784-2385 Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 10:11:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B333F42839 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:11:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4136F40572 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 21:58:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id GrYa1l0011GXsucA5rwTBQ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 03:56:27 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.4] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id GrwR1l00F4L5TyG8UrwSrx; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 03:56:26 +0000 From: Bud R To: Tim Murphy Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 21:56:25 -0600 References: <1364436937.35872.YahooMailClassic@web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <000001ce2b5d$fed2bde0$fc7839a0$@com> s=q20121106; t=1364442987; bh=Xgev/1SByrqv+zC3Zp2wtoPCkEnH15AHjTLk6vB+B1w=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=cy+cvUUd2WmMpHmSPFof4qHDaLD8wxUdpv2aEGWfNZz3UHvoYpvMnQv4y6YdCdNt4 j1EdcM+c4eSqruxxPUPYw83fjg51bGMR0Ljt+ppFMolFDkwkNw9+/OxCpyvV2kykfU MXOhHQdKdozjuytKS52DxZE5Qah3eocRKdE3pNDSq9g0oAwYCoDha/OT0sLA9MU7Nq 9SrNswVoT7P88/Zv8u+RFy3th564jx0LtCv+UwZfCk0ezYW74UHOkSsouU+eXgdnj4 RgSM+uLRm0a3nXO02rZ+IT0YliXUQc7UyDV9GrXSqJwCs6/yLmZh0Wo9mOcN4IyE7q Jv+C6wrOqlmaA== Cc: 'FOT' Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: VINTAGE MACHINE SHOP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I came across a similar place called the Quasdorf Wagon, Machine, and Blacksmith Shop in a little town off I-35 called Wright, Iowa. I was coming back from the Kahler wedding (better know as VTR2002 in Redwing, Minnesota) and found this fascinating little shop. The upstairs was a museum with things like an ancient movie projector run with some Rube Goldberg carbon arc to provide light. Great place to check out. It was not as operational as the Texas shop day to day but the machines (belt driven from the basement) still all worked. Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Mar 27, 2013, at 8:43 PM, Tim Murphy wrote: > That's probably one of the last machine shops in the country that's > run with > line shafts! There was one in Fond du Lac (WI), a long narrow shop > with a > single line shaft, around about 1963 or 1964. I think it was gone > by 1970. > Too bad, a neat place. At the time it was the only place in town > you could > get some decent hardware. > > Tim > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of EDWARD BARNARD > Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:16 PM > To: FOT > Subject: [Fot] Fw: VINTAGE MACHINE SHOP > > Group: This was forwarded to me by a flying buddy. Not at all Triumph > related, > but well worth the watch. This was an episode of Texas Country > Reporter, and > it shows that not everything has become modernized. > Enjoy > -Ed- > > --- On Wed, 3/27/13, Jack L. Tyler wrote: > > > From: Jack L. Tyler > Subject: VINTAGE MACHINE SHOP > To: "Jack L. Tyler" > Date: Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 8:30 AM > > > > > > > > Hi Yball, > Just thought you might enjoy this. > Jack Tyler > B > > Who needs CAD? A stick and some dirt work just fine. Take a few > moments and > watch this. American Heartland. > > B B > Real work, keep it B simple, get the job done with pride and quality. > B Remember, take the time in your life to stop and "have a Dr. > Pepper (soda > pop) and B some peanuts". > > B B > http://www.youtube.com/embed/BckZ4i1BzF0?feature=player_embedded > B > B B > B > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph@fastbytes.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 10:11:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3072A4294B for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:11:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD70F427E5 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 07:14:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.144] by nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2013 13:11:59 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.197] by tm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2013 13:11:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2013 13:11:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 87674 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Mar 2013 13:11:59 -0000 s=s1024; t=1364476319; bh=8PydsVaTU0XYIyOrdivOSVEYzGTaSrl3F8YfLpIjggM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uUZmDaH9gX9Xs2Leq/1oRmomCUr0YIDWprLkGTIx4Pfxpyq7/42MP81nHsqEWswKMzA6WZbJ4wkkMtJYXcnbYIvMGmTL2RfXpn/1X3ivrK9f9j4FtDaqIQJU5im5R1QuJ7G6NckdocdJJFBQQwbcxWcMJqcNNcofY6oFxwMmKLE= s=s1024; d=ymail.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YLZe3PnSgmolsFVFlvhFSsFoqylvqOWMgyr9QwBbRUuHOE0rKphOnhqmk6wuypVdTNq1xg7CPoRIsh2vTbdh5BpM4KTS0BrzvrQDmU4iS1qEcSt3KKK8wClpmPoUBYNUmeQHE4Wre55svnEaby2ao0FquKDUZsqVmQhc6XOHpi8=; kadBr2q8rtKAx9w4ZrxovDrO.yLMTy9vtbMEDkZDV7PG9crEOrpwWvn1DyUH Cigh_Ao7og4QQ3uxItRE3bueoiCSppUl0AizsuUC9owwusDDE.PgaGyaHFa8 Vvknk6E1rbRAKkH.gkyo28CepTLUVDyrh9O.ffd09mGQMk2J92gN.PQJxyhV z6QsjUaO1FsTLJTHr2WByeRRc_MiGOcdd1KWyOa0.FKKv0tEZchaAjwfuJLC nqzS9vcn.k7UiD_7Xfp6thDi5u1iDqR532AYB1CPiLNrrJ7ts28.88T4sO2A VNsg4aUyaT.UolWNFs0ItSQqGcNcdH9CpmzC9.CNMpWbOt.j1EOaFLbmITfL RLh6FtaTk3npQWVp9xRKi.HkU.xWTCVUXZufntOUokvet26FW6yd4fXEuE4m rTJno8bH40WH5hMkKBrgK5Rc7HQhH6Qq3UodhpTxMKfS24uFtRx19plhNZY4 lnEJBt44pDWzbc.cBhltzhqf8m8c2FtCz9My06B2wZaRX Received: from [173.17.127.43] by web161806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 06:11:59 PDT SSBjYW4gYXNzdXJlIHlvdSwgY29ycG9yYXRlIHVwcGVyIG1hbmFnZW1lbnQgcGVvcGxlIGF0IHRoZSBhdXRvbW90aXZlIGNoYWlucyBhcmUgY29uY2VybmVkIHdpdGggb25lIHRoaW5nLCBjb3Jwb3JhdGUgcHJvZml0LiBUaGF0JiN4Mjc7cyBhcyBpdCBzaG91bGQgYmUsIGl0IGlzIGFmdGVyIGFsbCBhIGJ1c2luZXNzLCBob3dldmVyLCB0aGVzZSBidXNpbmVzc2VzIGhhdmUgY29tcGxldGVseSBsb3N0IHRyYWNrIG9mIHdoYXQgYSBwYXJ0cyBzdG9yZSBpcy4gVGhlIHRha2UgYXdheSBpcywgaWYgeW91IG5lZWQBMAEBAQE- Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 06:11:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Russell Westfall To: marty sukey , gasket.works@gte.net, fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I can assure you, corporate upper management people at the automotive chains are concerned with one thing, corporate profit. That's as it should be, it is after all a business, however, these businesses have completely lost track of what a parts store is. The take away is, if you need air freshener, tune up in a can, or a cutesy key chain, go to Pep Boys, Auto Zone, or Advanced. If you need parts, and parts knowledge find an independently owned parts store that serves the independent repair shops in your area. They are getting rare, but they are still out there. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 10:12:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDCEA428E0 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:12:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f53.google.com (mail-qa0-f53.google.com [209.85.216.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BEE24054C for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 07:44:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id k4so1542393qaq.12 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 06:42:29 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=3Mzq2Q10K6jZOizVueKqNc9/Aq3ELG0qHA1GcMYBbn4=; b=ozr+l+mTWYYrPun976ItDg1sxTAiZSb8i3BOaJyvcT8F9fVsXWcLUMc/XgBShu9Kg7 469OqgyyGpsZPw7dpLP1RJnWi7paYNDN30c18sRDqABCTld6rhSiuqEdmx/HF0X/PT0B wGKZfBripAp0O9v1rPcbT8RNA3y51dVYO4eDRRx493PDABkKWQ10N/OXKFaTZO7d4iYD 44dbgklHXewzLXCT8xjktivfqkU9McNyWda0TtTY9LvNNMl9YGCzedt0W3G74QYJorl2 OvxQxHanVxQ1NSWyDICWlx+dCPXvx4ak8iHDixNqvTbmbR/TqSaO2vVyxoAq67MhsQrV cNKA== bx5mr18817397qab.95.1364478149371; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 06:42:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.59.108 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 06:42:29 -0700 (PDT) References: <2057774768-1364439772-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-459266624-@b4.c8.bise6.blackberry> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 09:42:29 -0400 From: Robert Deanes To: marty sukey Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I fill the same way I guess guys..when I stop at my local store now they quit asking me what the part is for or drive......now they ask what the part is suppose to go on....and they are still puzzled...so I bring my own parts numbers now....that gets rid of the "bewildered look"....sometimes On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 8:23 AM, marty sukey wrote: > I would venture to guess that corporate wouldn't know a main bearing from a > babushka either. My local NAPA appears to be the only ones left that speak > the language. > > Marty > > > > I am going to write to their corporate office. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 10:12:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE8C40ED9 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:12:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail176c2.megamailservers.com (mail176c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74ED54054C for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 07:44:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) by mail176c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r2SDgM8i017201; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 09:42:30 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: "'Spitfire Racing'" , , "'FOT'" References: <2057774768-1364439772-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-459266624-@b4.c8.bise6.blackberry> <002101ce2b8f$3a4dd4a0$aee97de0$@rr.com> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 09:42:23 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4rYNPDXBqdTZPYQDeT0M8wZkXM+QALEd5gAAs1XdA= a=mIYdpXCMWTQA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=sskR1B85AAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=udVNs_SaOE2hGSHoJa8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=p5ZAGxalUHUA:10 a=Iiuo6D_TWlEhGTab:21 a=Rv15_hkH5d4Kwbpk:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The thing I most long for most 40 or 50 years ago is to be 37 again! John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Spitfire Racing Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 4:36 AM To: gasket.works@gte.net; 'FOT' Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- I can remember when there were some 9 auto parts stores in this area and everyone of them had people that knew their stuff and many were motorheads who contributed expertise and experiences over the counter. On top of this, they had everything imaginable even if it was on a back shelf under a layer of dust. Oh, and might I add that everything was Made in USA back then and it always fit. Now there are three "chain" stores that have 35 different smelling dash ornaments, wax and googahs and any part is from some third world country and two days away. There's a 50/50 chance it will fit and function. Welcome to the ugly new world. It's not confined to auto parts stores......... Me, I long for the way it was back 40-50 years ago. On many levels! Russ Moore -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of gasket.works@gte.net Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:03 PM To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- I went to my local auto zone today. Behind the counter a clerk perhaps 28y/o asked me what he could get for me. I asked "Where do you have your timing lights?". He looked at me then calmly went to the computer and asked "What year and model?". I should have known better. I was there a couple of months ago. At that time I asked for rod bearings for a small block chevy. it was a different clerk similarly aged. He asked "What year and model?". I said "1972 chevelle 350". He responds "front bearings?" "No- all of them" I say. "Both sides?" He queries. Then I get this "a ha" moment when I seriously believed we are doing an Abbott and Costello "who's on first". So I tell him " I don't think you understand" - "Engine rod bearings standard size". So he looks at me and says. "What's that?". I look at my son and then back at the clerk and say "I made a mistake I thought this was an auto store". We walked out. I am going to write to their corporate office. M Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 10:12:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A691F42969 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:12:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB2D34282F for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 08:09:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id GzrG1l00116AWCUAC27gEq; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 14:07:40 +0000 Received: from [10.186.74.42] ([166.137.182.253]) by omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id H2721l00S5USUTJ8S279ho; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 14:07:34 +0000 References: <2057774768-1364439772-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-459266624-@b4.c8.bise6.blackberry> From: James Gray Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 08:07:00 -0600 To: marty sukey s=q20121106; t=1364479660; bh=P/k2sV71ObMOBoclgWVHiZeX/leBtijQmrX8f9aUKxI=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=Fc0wKxZGzxKVjDxJy6k7yNPdPf46ME1bZ3cjUnOh4xWDAIIRMi/0qLlx7+ji64ybo Xeg5MGuuxI3yEhOiJSk8VfhTUhjpD7eOxiWtifyQEez6W5A4bv1MEnJCXS1HrbhatW W78L5UgmH9+SmuGiGVgHvrZi2aMRnoDc+FVs17TzH7bMYWj6xn9/f1ACRRHmRRzM96 sdQrqPaR4M1nv6gmsjo13Oojv2fxIv5+V707ki+idIDHOpH8EwVPgwvCRMYgZb/7ML HH0YCwoNUc3EMkPxbjRlg/6qafTbN1Co4YcKG9ZEPTJwBApA8GkZMI7oWOdXDuOHPr miS38M2iA3SKA== Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I agree, NAPA are the only real parts stores left. I went to an auto zone and asked for a set of plugs by name & type. The person at the counter needed the make & model of the car. I told him it was a '98 corvette. He asked if it was a v6 or v8. Had I been on my game that day I would have insisted it was a flat12 And sat back to watch his head implode. Jim g. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2013, at 6:23 AM, marty sukey wrote: > I would venture to guess that corporate wouldn't know a main bearing from a > babushka either. My local NAPA appears to be the only ones left that speak > the language. > > Marty > > >> I am going to write to their corporate office. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 10:13:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22B7428E6 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:13:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com (imr-db02.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2C3403A0 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 08:19:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.139]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7ABD71C00014A; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:17:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtc003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtc003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.9]) by mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id A2004E000090; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:17:07 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:17:07 -0400 (EDT) To: trmarty@hotmail.com, gasket.works@gte.net, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364480228; bh=xV+N23HKgk+7TegYyXcfU2kPck9fgQ7XLlWluuasbpc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Bp0NrRXxYpKFZbkjtw/Gx5AwGo9HK/XEhCNrcm7jn6Nq6BX840x+CYa0WTlOMEK91 HfXC538OvkZWGWxJURTWhy5rw8nk1xw7XecsIBlA9LQd+lcX6vCyPTVuckIGzLd8jL v67zwLCU1hrzRx0VH1XLBGg8iuD9wl+1gvkaSLQY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338b515450e31782 Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 03/28/2013 6:28:24 AM Central Standard Time, trmarty@hotmail.com writes: > I would venture to guess that corporate wouldn't know a main bearing from > a > babushka either. My local NAPA appears to be the only ones left that > speak > the language. > I know babushkas, the ladies wear them on the South side of Milwaukee, in the winter...with their galoshes. We've still got two great NAPA stores nearby. Both know what they're doing. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 10:13:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D06428EA for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:13:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f177.google.com (mail-ob0-f177.google.com [209.85.214.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B0D403B9 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 07:53:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f177.google.com with SMTP id eh20so9345931obb.36 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 06:51:13 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:user-agent:date:subject:from:to:message-id:thread-topic :thread-index:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=a03x0yli+/4TQlys6RSUCsBSon2vxp+dIpn8xByDE+c=; b=WpDZ4nS6egH0WHAb02Wt3aYJSQFx3oQ65LXauw7PTNRQz7KIsr+wVzACghtJROEi+I HS/4ag7XMyINn57LBD68RUcB3EnGssLGnxJ6NiMJafMNzVe6Ie7ts07vjOlTn1v8p6ws CK6sgfzudAybEljCOmfco7JPEC99GEPHyHxjSu9TNCVikssyTqpgg5Jp5nCyjJczoGhI imqmPFRM45DEW/vpJDJBhls8G/iYc+bcEUIrSsreLgSPOrLksaI2DEvyBV7ua/ONOq/R 2oF6tYOivEcbXlurISF6ue3gPwzyN1lpKA/InOk1f0vtHPgjla7dc4zKh6r6hpOVtb+v 41Fw== pi6mr5544851obb.57.1364478673565; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 06:51:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.38] (adsl-70-130-128-248.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net. [70.130.128.248]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm23314117obj.7.2013.03.28.06.51.11 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 28 Mar 2013 06:51:12 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.10.0.080409 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 08:59:03 -0500 From: Craig Leinicke To: Spitfire Racing , , 'FOT' Thread-Topic: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Thread-Index: Ac4rYNPDXBqdTZPYQDeT0M8wZkXM+QALEd5gAAvTDrc= Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net To add to this thread, a couple of years ago I asked the same 20+ year old counter clerk at a local auto parts store about rear shock absorbers for a Triumph TR7... He looked me square in the eye and said "Who makes Triumph?" When I replied... "Triumph makes Triumph" he looked at me like I had just stepped off a space ship and had a third eye in the middle of my forehead. Needless to say, I didn't buy any parts that day. I understand that this fellow probably wasn't born in 1981 when Triumph production came to an end but you would think anyone with enough interest to work in the automotive field would recognize major British auto manufacturers. The reality is that all of us have more knowledge about the workings of automobiles than 90% of the people working the auto parts counters today. Craig Leinicke Flashback Racing On 3/28/13 3:35 AM, "Spitfire Racing" wrote: > I can remember when there were some 9 auto parts stores in this area and > everyone of them had people that knew their stuff and many were motorheads > who contributed expertise and experiences over the counter. On top of this, > they had everything imaginable even if it was on a back shelf under a layer > of dust. Oh, and might I add that everything was Made in USA back then and > it always fit. Now there are three "chain" stores that have 35 different > smelling dash ornaments, wax and googahs and any part is from some third > world country and two days away. There's a 50/50 chance it will fit and > function. > Welcome to the ugly new world. It's not confined to auto parts > stores......... > Me, I long for the way it was back 40-50 years ago. On many levels! > > Russ Moore > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of gasket.works@gte.net > Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:03 PM > To: FOT > Subject: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- > > I went to my local auto zone today. Behind the counter a clerk perhaps > 28y/o asked me what he could get for me. I asked "Where do you have your > timing lights?". He looked at me then calmly went to the computer and asked > "What year and model?". > > I should have known better. I was there a couple of months ago. At that > time I asked for rod bearings for a small block chevy. it was a different > clerk similarly aged. He asked "What year and model?". I said "1972 > chevelle 350". He responds "front bearings?" > "No- all of them" I say. "Both sides?" He queries. Then I get this "a ha" > moment when I seriously believed we are doing an Abbott and Costello "who's > on first". So I tell him " I don't think you understand" - "Engine rod > bearings standard size". So he looks at me and says. "What's that?". I > look at my son and then back at the clerk and say "I made a mistake I > thought this was an auto store". We walked out. > > I am going to write to their corporate office. > > M > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/craigl@leinickegroup.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 10:14:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 078AF42902 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:14:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4CFC4054C for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 08:33:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.74]) by qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id H1l71l0101c6gX8512XXkC; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 14:31:31 +0000 Received: from CraigHP ([76.100.209.245]) by omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id H2XX1l00G5JDEd03j2XXi0; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 14:31:31 +0000 From: "Craig Wensley" To: "'marty sukey'" , , "'FOT'" References: <2057774768-1364439772-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-459266624-@b4.c8.bise6.blackberry> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:31:34 -0400 Thread-Index: AQHRiMnJC6+/cSaT7OVRQfXXdKL+AAGXlV7WmKezCbA= Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1364481091; bh=LJLFyTTm+y/QkcGw6IaHxKHw4t9zmxiXJzhVcYR8Oa0=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=j1/WLM5+EmwclKCvp/Aac1W383am7NxTwvj7wvY+njWKzbw6bw1K+i2AavihmANMP KnM0XhZ4d8+TNdbMAxwr99tSXrwYFCcjhC4ipKNmgF8X3ZvCPyRRRcWhYoy1X9WErt 7IxROl2YLG0mXIwrOE3i5J76C2iXB5H1+7kOKgeiqu4y6dfh+V7b9e9NMdDMYo6/lM rf9oU+uYudBzPqgGG150hS+LV0sk6mjAbiwvkmXRt171UuskAcg4bhktq5lmidEOCV 77mnQ7wkkGFqJSyj6ivIsGCaI3oZT2uQCgD49WoS40rNFYl9eJ7MdhSrg1TTMBGoH4 PFoYV+GKHs0mA== Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Damm...What do you guys want they only make 18.00 an hour and not allowed to over 35 hours a week. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of marty sukey Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 8:23 AM To: gasket.works@gte.net; FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- I would venture to guess that corporate wouldn't know a main bearing from a babushka either. My local NAPA appears to be the only ones left that speak the language. Marty > I am going to write to their corporate office. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/wensley_tr@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 10:14:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FFA140ED9 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:14:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com (imr-db02.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4131540ED7 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:00:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.13]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 0F0321C0000C8 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:58:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-deb004a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-deb004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.53.141]) by mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id CC8BFE000085 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:58:24 -0400 (EDT) References: <2057774768-1364439772-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-459266624-@b4.c8.bise6.blackberry> <002101ce2b8f$3a4dd4a0$aee97de0$@rr.com> To: fot@autox.team.net From: robertten1@aol.com Received: from 96.233.64.253 by webmail-m166.sysops.aol.com (64.12.78.185) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:58:24 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:58:24 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364486305; bh=KSz62E5VIBDLJwP8/iOpMgQCxHKe2Bfr2ko8umR7Iqs=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=q4BXmjKsGFV84oYxVHHI7gEtYjEuE+pQqsqhOU6xxZgYDvwNHrqSqmKthFgGItMOn YJTFoN1psWcPJMMLswLzGBi+4m2LYasYdE1SWhE7L8qejxnazeUWPdEkO9m66ge5oI YZK1dLtcnkeE9wvxF+1givbuY7Gva4HriwjQAJOw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290d515468a021c7 Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sadly its not about servicing, supplying and knowledge sharing from the current crop of " Auto Parts Stores ". It's about the most PROFIT one can gain from the product on the shelf (?). Parts made in distant lands by people promised a better way of life who could care less about what they are making. Corporate heads making decisions of who is their supplier and really caring less about any concerns the parts they are offering will fit, work or even look like the part it is to replace. Just as long as the profit margin is large enough to secure their next bonus checks. Quality is but a distant memory. As for the clerk behind the counter ... you get what you pay for, these people are usually only making minimum wage. This satisfy's the corporate heads as labor rates are low thus keeping overhead costs down ... more profits. Besides their belief is everything is on the computer and that info is all that is needed for knowledge for their employees. Thus you don't need to know the difference between a rod bearing from a wheel bearing, or where they are on a vehicle. They are pressured to sell the cheap no name part to the customer meaning the most profit for the corporation. A few years ago I took an automotive technician course at one of those schools. When subjects like brakes and ignitions came up most of the younglings in the class were unfamiliar with drum brakes or distributors. And totally baffled by points and condensers. These topics were briefly reviewed during the course. So needless to say when I brought one of my Spitfires in for study work in the lab several of my classmates were curious about the distributor and its workings. Good for some extra credits from my instructor. I have found that most of these parts places have web sites where I can look up their part numbers for the part I am looking for. I write this info down and then go shopping. If the clerk behind the counter wont use the numbers I will then ask for the manager. This gets me my parts and usually the clerk gets a little education from his superior. Finally, I always shop for the brand name part for critical items as its worth the extra money for a quality part that fits so I only have to make the repair once. Unfortunately for our Triumphs the quality parts are becoming harder to find as the parts made in China it seems are the only way our parts are being reproduced. I find it harder, these past several years, to locate any last bits of NOS parts left. Though blogs and some web sites prove invaluable for info on what and where to locate these better quality parts for our Triumphs. Keep searching, Bob T '63 Spitfire street '64 Spitfire GT autocrosser PS these stores could eliminate about 40 % of the crap on their shelves and still serve their customers as they do now. Air Freshener dodads ? Why ? -----Original Message----- From: Spitfire Racing To: gasket.works ; 'FOT' Sent: Thu, Mar 28, 2013 4:37 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- I can remember when there were some 9 auto parts stores in this area and veryone of them had people that knew their stuff and many were motorheads ho contributed expertise and experiences over the counter. On top of this, hey had everything imaginable even if it was on a back shelf under a layer f dust. Oh, and might I add that everything was Made in USA back then and t always fit. Now there are three "chain" stores that have 35 different melling dash ornaments, wax and googahs and any part is from some third orld country and two days away. There's a 50/50 chance it will fit and unction. elcome to the ugly new world. It's not confined to auto parts tores......... e, I long for the way it was back 40-50 years ago. On many levels! Russ Moore -----Original Message----- rom: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On ehalf Of gasket.works@gte.net ent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:03 PM o: FOT ubject: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- I went to my local auto zone today. Behind the counter a clerk perhaps 8y/o asked me what he could get for me. I asked "Where do you have your iming lights?". He looked at me then calmly went to the computer and asked What year and model?". I should have known better. I was there a couple of months ago. At that ime I asked for rod bearings for a small block chevy. it was a different lerk similarly aged. He asked "What year and model?". I said "1972 hevelle 350". He responds "front bearings?" No- all of them" I say. "Both sides?" He queries. Then I get this "a ha" oment when I seriously believed we are doing an Abbott and Costello "who's n first". So I tell him " I don't think you understand" - "Engine rod earings standard size". So he looks at me and says. "What's that?". I ook at my son and then back at the clerk and say "I made a mistake I hought this was an auto store". We walked out. I am going to write to their corporate office. M ent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 10:14:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC891403B9 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:14:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49DE340ED5 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:05:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Gzx51l00E16AWCUA143djE; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 16:03:37 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id H43c1l0092vctGa8S43cZG; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 16:03:36 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "'davehogye'" , "'marty sukey'" References: <696282214.234251.1364484641215.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 09:03:35 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac4ryYIDd7DZvI+nTreuMiH+L7DeFwAAyVgA Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1364486617; bh=picLuJ8HtnFOVAk2uXC4+7e980Ir1s2n1htgMIRUQCg=; h=Received:Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OD8VHpjXQnmEaUOt54OtXcjkub8gEkxbrNOdcNIWaWBaJqpYFyoY2Sl67lOHaNYXP Cc1fxJBZbzUuFDfmC0gv1fLF+iDmh0+ymC7rZnhVRTg+v04D9X0ubO6xy2dDjUS99h DTywEAKjjdq56IiovunX4BaNoRoT+YPu0MlAaZjO8iMyXcwtcxLi6O28x4acy7dlDI L+03VLh5ArlFbWvb8z0EjHEdMcBYM5XBInv4OR2jmsWs39EkRtjnVO1D2bVo0gKtK9 r4SLiB5fcknsZK4jL6ji/v+FFgJordUrcMZJpXWX/jT1Gbzo/DKD1MNKEzOVN266jf mJzypMqFhiO7g== Cc: 'FOT' Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Dave...I expect to be teching at the CSRG April 5-7..If Ken Kirk is there it would be a great chance for Ken/CSRG to take a look at your car ...you probably have his # but here it is..415 307 9017 csrgcarclass@aol.com I'm greatly excited for you! Racer Bud -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of davehogye Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 8:31 AM To: marty sukey Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers Marty et al, I will be attending the Kastner Cup. I haven't missed one since '08 at The Glen but I still haven't driven in one. I would of course love to be able to drive my TR3 in this years event. I'm working on getting my car accepted in CSRG now and I plan on racing soon. I had the car teched at an HMSA event at Laguna this past weekend and besides the Hoosier Speedsters, it's very close to ready. I need to install a fire extinguisher, knew that, raise the fuel cell vent line, didn't know that and place an on/off sticker next to the safety switch, knew that too. The car weighs 1988 lbs., without driver. Cool. Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "marty sukey" To: "FOT" Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:44:49 AM Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013 drivers Just a reminder. I know it is early and the season has not even started for the majority out there, if your hoping to compete in the Kastner Cup event in September send me your name and car info so I can add it to the shirt list, even if your plans are not fully etched in stone yet. In addition to the shirts, having an idea of attendees will make some of the up front planning work out better. Not too worry if you end up not being able to make it. Before the shirt orders are sent in I will issue a last call for additions or subtractions. Thanks, Marty Sukey _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 10:15:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D1642969 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:15:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA1142580 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:11:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id H1Xd1l00C17UAYkA1494gh; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 16:09:04 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.4] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id H4931l00P4L5TyG8Z493PM; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 16:09:04 +0000 From: Bud R To: FOT triumph Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:09:03 -0600 s=q20121106; t=1364486944; bh=vmBRB1oiAkQQTX+fE1Nf7NxXYpPl1bKP+WteX841R5M=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=RqvKiFrq87d48gv55NuOC0YkNhaaEGOruadvNSCKQe/bgcC4+CptganM9JqbKk1u8 a99vQKO4aBT05/sdMzPGvIdODd+Yr42gJn3i3ZYsEtyiJTjbRUro4t1Bvq8L0+xJv2 vfQc2CX6FUvB2amCvKfUOJijsOfGmrws3RwUBRn8QORtl9uynKcyfsvL3M3T7zGifq 43YY1lmFe09osNeIgSV5TyxD5yhNjx3rxBGnkgk/iwF3TVspXRvjkhJHgb17JQmdVc SKaLGKJgoLfV6FIDAelziXhC5bIrvn37+/0OQmQeg1vQyq8GP61UPMIANZxZyFUTZX RO1wEUKPptGMA== Subject: [Fot] Praise for Hoosier Racing Tire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've always been willing to complain when venders disappoint or don't provide products as advertised so I'm glad to be able to heap some praise for an outstanding vender. I want to commend the Corporate Office at Hoosier Racing Tire, and Jeff Speer in particular, for handling an issue that had come up with the Hoosier tires on my Spitfire. Thanks also to Jim Gray for recommending that I call Hoosier about the air pressure loss I kept having. He said that Hoosier was a company that stands behind their tires and he could not have been more right. It is obvious why Hoosier tires are so respected and used. They focus on customer service and satisfaction. Jeff Speer was a pleasure to work with and he worked hard with his people at Hoosier Racing Tire to make things right. Here's his contact info. if you have tire needs. Jeffrey A. Speer Product Manager 65465 US Hwy 31 Lakeville, IN 46536 www.hoosiertire.com Phone: 574-784-3152 Fax: 574-784-2385 Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 10:15:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BF9428F7 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:15:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CABDD40404 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:15:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130328161255.CGJS24708.mta31.charter.net@imp11>; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 12:12:55 -0400 Received: from [10.0.1.6] ([24.196.153.8]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id H4Cu1l00T0B81vc054Cuxr; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 12:12:55 -0400 a=QhwFlP9zo++XkZcNwIRI4g==:17 a=rXlMMA8Q4goA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=URR9qq2WirkA:10 a=bV0iEj13AAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=GtW0vb7Y0IZ8flvMP-4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=8NYWoh9r7MQA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=QhwFlP9zo++XkZcNwIRI4g==:117 From: Jerry Barr Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:12:54 -0500 References: <1364436937.35872.YahooMailClassic@web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: EDWARD BARNARD Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: VINTAGE MACHINE SHOP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net After high school I served a 4 year machinist apprenticeship at Allis Chalmers in West Allis Wisconsin. I served in the heavy industry shops machining and building large steam turbines, generators, rod and ball mills. I got to run amazingly large machines such as 16' boring mills. I didn't get to run the 40' boring mill but got to help running it. The bigger boring mills had basements under them for access to the drive system, we had a 7" boring bar with a huge table 100 feet square come to mind. One job that was a lot of fun was boring the main bearing bores and blade ring grooves on the high, intermediate, and low pressure turbine housings. I would operate the machine while the machinist was inside the housing setting the tool and could not get out until the cut was done and the bar was disconnected. I got to run an engine lathe that had a 12' faceplate and 100 foot long bed. We used it to rough out the turbine main shaft before they were sent out for heat treating. When it came back we would finish machine the shaft and cut in the blade ring grooves. I got to operate other machines such as a 12' planer mill, 8' planer, huge radial arm drill presses. What a wonderful experience! All this was done before automation. On Mar 27, 2013, at 9:15 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Group: This was forwarded to me by a flying buddy. Not at all Triumph related, > but well worth the watch. This was an episode of Texas Country Reporter, and > it shows that not everything has become modernized. > Enjoy > -Ed- > > --- On Wed, 3/27/13, Jack L. Tyler wrote: > > > From: Jack L. Tyler > Subject: VINTAGE MACHINE SHOP > To: "Jack L. Tyler" > Date: Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 8:30 AM > > > > > > > > Hi Yball, > Just thought you might enjoy this. > Jack Tyler > B > > Who needs CAD? A stick and some dirt work just fine. Take a few moments and > watch this. American Heartland. > > B B > Real work, keep it B simple, get the job done with pride and quality. > B Remember, take the time in your life to stop and "have a Dr. Pepper (soda > pop) and B some peanuts". > > B B > http://www.youtube.com/embed/BckZ4i1BzF0?feature=player_embedded > B > B B > B > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerrybarr@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 10:45:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E44428FE for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:45:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89EC840EDB for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:45:18 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=thU5QNwBOGS35845I5Rc9w==:17 a=02x9Fjxtek4A:10 a=he5PkoDcTKwA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=hl59Nsad7yIA:10 a=VnNF1IyMAAAA:8 a=rT4r6IVsAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=6STyVhNdA3RjwSaX8-UA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=6CitWK-ZYRsA:10 a=K30rRFjv1KIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=thU5QNwBOGS35845I5Rc9w==:117 Received: from [206.16.105.224] ([206.16.105.224:44027] helo=[192.38.12.38]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 66/09-25887-11374515; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 16:42:58 +0000 References: From: Bob Kramer Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:42:55 -0500 To: George Harmuth Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 76, Issue 39 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Quinton Hazell used to be the JC Whitney brand....how far we have (not) come!! Bob Kramer Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2013, at 10:30 AM, George Harmuth wrote: > Another sign of the times. From another Triumph forum I follow, QH parts > are drying up, limited to stock on hand. > Are my street spits going to go hungry? With Chinese parts like Chinese > food, an hour later you need more. > > > Quinton Hazell Cheadle sold, other sites closing > > http://www.tyrepress.com/News/quinton_hazell_cheadle_sold_other_sites_closing .html > > mike h > > > G. Michael Harmuth > Software Engineer > Automated Material Handling Equipment Engineering Services > 845-894-8088 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 10:52:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783E04290B for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:52:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920A440EDB for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:50:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834C3A073A for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:50:09 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:50:09 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Parts stores Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Back when I was using a TR6 as my daily driver I usually had no problem getting parts. There was a parts store within walking distance and the manager owned a TR6 himself. That was nice. There is one old school parts place way down in Sandy. I used to enjoy delivering there when I was a driver. Back then they had a project - rebuilding the engine for a 1904 Cadillac. You won't see THAT at Autozone! mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 11:10:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D48340ED0 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:10:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8113040043 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:10:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id H2bx1l00516AWCUA2588my; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:08:08 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id H5871l0062vctGa8S587Us; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:08:08 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "'Mark J Bradakis'" , "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <515474C1.3080500@bradakis.com> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:08:06 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac4r1EYh1Fz3zg4nS5S0/6WKlkgfFgAAiz6g Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1364490488; bh=kofgBRWATV5O0i/DT0+VgipTr5F3Q947UWSkSt2KrqU=; h=Received:Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OknjdcJXA5Kp/F71Ijl0MD/rGq/S+tcrEtSxFvg7TSbGHK4wx3FRG5E66tqSm0Gip eJRL+jSYlkfM8bvAdXKRm7inwHU4cGSbCEGPOG5ElvWZaJ9YHK7hB79wqrCyF9Q47X ZzcjGXOie+PE4ToVrFJih481TksyCQWwoYhMU29sQZh0by2fdUZNbng+Q7sq3cwd4r T0TXRdSWLuPq5gSJwpYyS+q5t5W1cfeq/YQ/9HgL+WVXlRCwHEIdk8zWCW8ylNJDqM HAggAA3PzvFmM/0+QYVGDz6up/mpq8e9mszqUtWaWkvSkNPqHrXlCH4AvmGft6m8DT zNTDyDNd+Yegw== Subject: Re: [Fot] Parts stores Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The NAPA store here in Sonoma is very versatile...very personal..I brought in a burned out weird bulb from an old Flarestat emergency flasher..bingo..they had one.. RB -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 9:50 AM To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Parts stores Back when I was using a TR6 as my daily driver I usually had no problem getting parts. There was a parts store within walking distance and the manager owned a TR6 himself. That was nice. There is one old school parts place way down in Sandy. I used to enjoy delivering there when I was a driver. Back then they had a project - rebuilding the engine for a 1904 Cadillac. You won't see THAT at Autozone! mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 14:11:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2743E40EDA for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 14:11:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A8A40442 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 14:10:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.2]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7CC3D1C0000EC; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 16:07:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.254.10] (rrcs-70-62-89-167.midsouth.biz.rr.com [70.62.89.167]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id E3426E00016F; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 16:07:40 -0400 (EDT) References: From: Jack Mc Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 16:07:40 -0400 To: Bud R x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364501261; bh=bqBUxp9YkS5945VLa15V8dMuye58xDu1f0Dv3f75PbA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=B5TElv2zwRkn9TgxA2ogV3Z3JetzEdlxOaQ8eIImeKfhO89qycbXFQtEnyiwVSXus QMGt7gXvhYPfaQpXMeXL4gcy1GvzfLkVQHj6qyxnnmwplu1PFToWifBTal+54867eT ygngyWZsUchGzzJ2o043Iiy/A22NyMFAp3+yHdE8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29025154a30c0d07 Cc: FOT triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Praise for Hoosier Racing Tire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Another reason to call Hoosier tires "purple crack" Sent from my iPad On Mar 28, 2013, at 12:09 PM, Bud R wrote: > I've always been willing to complain when venders disappoint or don't > provide products as advertised so I'm glad to be able to heap some > praise for an outstanding vender. > > I want to commend the Corporate Office at Hoosier Racing Tire, and > Jeff Speer in particular, for handling an issue that had come up with > the Hoosier tires on my Spitfire. > > Thanks also to Jim Gray for recommending that I call Hoosier about the > air pressure loss I kept having. He said that Hoosier was a company > that stands behind their tires and he could not have been more right. > It is obvious why Hoosier tires are so respected and used. They focus > on customer service and satisfaction. > > Jeff Speer was a pleasure to work with and he worked hard with his > people at Hoosier Racing Tire to make things right. Here's his contact > info. if you have tire needs. > > > Jeffrey A. Speer > Product Manager > > > 65465 US Hwy 31 > Lakeville, IN 46536 > www.hoosiertire.com > Phone: 574-784-3152 > Fax: 574-784-2385 > > > Bud Rolofson > > Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) > 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle > 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/limeyv8@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 16:52:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025E842454 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 16:52:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm13-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm13-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.160]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA3940EA7 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 16:52:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.105] by nm13.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2013 22:50:00 -0000 Received: from [67.195.15.60] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2013 22:50:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp101.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2013 22:50:00 -0000 dhp1n.qN47Vdypc4HyKutI6wozL6TOyO3CsnfPPixvwXjj.oO_pIzpjtTrsP iEJXVWwq3EfXpoFGcu9UIJ0gWJaH.dEHoSzOBGvm9L2b7StJDp8mFUPVzEW. rr0mhzPbaOVmIhi1Mk3TFCqU3aptjU3UpLh2v8OAHQwprqemqBErCr7BS3P9 ZgKTGH22aNqOxoVNWE3P0sMz7TEYQK3CYrbk6B19ytl8SsQaUfeyODwrl31i YOGrC_63OtvRegVIcLh5dSNv8A.dVu6A6giaeESF6.axSZGFhxHM0A.26OeK fSlYf2.uySew2mKzPyab22A6jvuL1IQVWmtLIWpSJ7Q0CcWYPR5Zww2cGTpz cHcXCyAyB.uYUcMx2UQObA53i3xjGHeqK99.3IOufo8Y9nopZmN8DGQxXzfw 52xgzvaaBZYWltHEP5_ZCdg-- plain) by smtp101.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Mar 2013 15:50:00 -0700 PDT Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:50:09 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 To: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] 6 cyl cam bearings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I know this has been discussed, but I must have been asleep, so I apologize. As I understand it, if you want to put cam bearings in a 6 cylinder TR, you use Spitfire 1296 bearings (1 or 2 sets?). The block must be bored from 1.9680 - 1.9695. The bearing journals on the cam must be ground to fit the bearings. Doesn't this restrict the cam lift? What is the cam bearing ID compared to the stock setup with no bearing? Thanks, Larry _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 17:04:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F62B42822 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:04:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dfn.com (mail.dfn.com [74.116.128.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AACA6403FC for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:04:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] [199.83.117.102] by dfn.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-11.5) id 71b2000305405923; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:20:19 -0600 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:20:20 -0600 From: Michael Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 To: 'FOT' References: <2057774768-1364439772-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-459266624-@b4.c8.bise6.blackberry> <002101ce2b8f$3a4dd4a0$aee97de0$@rr.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 3/28/2013 2:35 AM, Spitfire Racing wrote: > I can remember when there were some 9 auto parts stores in this area and > everyone of them had people that knew their stuff and many were motorheads > who contributed expertise and experiences over the counter. On top of this, > they had everything imaginable even if it was on a back shelf under a layer > of dust. My favorite story along these lines was when I lived in MI in the `70s. There was an old, old auto parts store downtown that had been around since the days when the Model T was new. A guy I knew did repairs at home, and one day, someone dropped off a `30s-era Chris Craft mahogany runabout and asked him to get the engine going. He looked it over and decided that the engine was toast--just a big pile of rust, inside and out. But, he kept it in mind, thinking he might get lucky and find the parts for it he needed. One day, he was at the aforementioned parts store, and happened to mention that he was looking for engine parts for a Chris Craft. The son of the original owner, a fellow then in his 70s, overheard him and said, "follow me." He went up a ladder to the second floor, and another ladder to the third floor, and in the back of building was a crated Hercules engine still in cosmoline. They pulled back the tarp, wiped off the cosmo, and discovered that the crated engine's last serial number digit was four off from the one in the boat. Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 17:46:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D687042857 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:46:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm15.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm15.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.216]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9F240533 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:42:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.201] by nm15.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2013 23:39:42 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.54] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2013 23:39:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp107.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2013 23:39:42 -0000 em.SQQI82dSFR24piYhYyglhDKiQw2nLiDGkhnjAlPRWhDJe4Uc_7Vdy5gU6 g4BGGCBruTETt0vutR9_czaK18i0VeZaTfgCbgF6ya4Ue9.Wma2W9.RXdD_T zy3TCqzKf2b8KQWriXMe_fLKm2q5FNmSGJmJ._y6FQJOMWh4ww9vMWAOy.I8 2TOl9vWIxQuGugC2kzeJNaZweoZs0BDvEHp20QNL5ssQWvnMz8B3DVKo8DrE haKEJrzakp5FCnJWrIS2eVR0MolHHIFX1N76XgOzqHLkb9IYa18.OdvsVhT8 dTwYfXybbLYkEaZ01wE0v.JzyJvYwIYidRQRA7OGb8lvOynMniRVJmal8VDg QJ_vbuTYrorOHyxs6Wy1loHX98LLS_Cix6.3Kw5H9BkKCP9ckE9onE8PhQ49 V7oFWU5A_FELS7Gr4ApUjdZg- plain) by smtp107.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Mar 2013 16:39:42 -0700 PDT Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 18:39:51 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <2057774768-1364439772-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-459266624-@b4.c8.bise6.blackberry> Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Not even Napa. I went in and asked for an generic exhaust hanger. After asking the make, model and year it was for, she said I don't think we carry those. There are other Napa stores in the area that are better staffed. I usually try and avoid the "make, model and year" question, but some times I just have to say customized 1914 Ford or whatever weird thing I'm working on at the time. I have to admit though that sometimes you get someone that will take the time to match up what you want with what they have. Larry On 3/28/2013 9:07 AM, James Gray wrote: > I agree, NAPA are the only real parts stores left. I went to an auto zone and > asked for a set of plugs by name & type. The person at the counter needed the > make & model of the car. I told him it was a '98 corvette. He asked if it was > a v6 or v8. Had I been on my game that day I would have insisted it was a > flat12 > And sat back to watch his head implode. > Jim g. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 18:18:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D2142847 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 18:18:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f175.google.com (mail-ie0-f175.google.com [209.85.223.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A0540357 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 18:18:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f175.google.com with SMTP id c12so99702ieb.34 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:15:53 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date :to:x-gm-message-state; bh=iywVlyiu+7JaJNxSd3KqAU+yu6mRpEObq6lrqG4fYz8=; b=N/asnw71vZvSNlY7jwtqSxUH7vDfNr9TrWcuNJ5uq7pyF+rT1PxCeGM2+9jAH8/EyI oKREG2GaAZTE0cJPzBA8Ea7jnHWIPnJiK6yGgT+qYoxTFTadYnv1klAJvunoo4dZDqxY R+AcQLmBRrZI9gN/Vslf9p5CMb0NYam7CT3/eEN9s8sj14uOSKL2hWs/FKi9nI3+Fl/a 4orMFX2iug2j2z5H9OjaqfqEdU7sICsNTqTNRPrf7X4HNs7JQk8PnsmBKUz/Y3hB7Zvc yiTNT+E8TyTYNZEZOxTwSZ0nuSjLy4VNT9IGNVBLylqanZYCFCHJ6kVScFGrl26TP9wy lfdA== s7mr8659424igj.56.1364516153029; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.8.105] (cpe-67-246-45-67.nycap.res.rr.com. [67.246.45.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s8sm1081038igs.0.2013.03.28.17.15.51 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:15:52 -0700 (PDT) References: <2057774768-1364439772-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-459266624-@b4.c8.bise6.blackberry> <5154D4C7.6070503@pobox.com> From: Bob Bownes - Seiri Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 20:15:51 -0400 To: Larry Young Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net My favorite answer for the make model year question is 1958 Wartburg. :) On Mar 28, 2013, at 19:39, Larry Young wrote: > Not even Napa. I went in and asked for an generic exhaust hanger. After asking the make, model and year it was for, she said I don't think we carry those. There are other Napa stores in the area that are better staffed. > > I usually try and avoid the "make, model and year" question, but some times I just have to say customized 1914 Ford or whatever weird thing I'm working on at the time. I have to admit though that sometimes you get someone that will take the time to match up what you want with what they have. > Larry > > > On 3/28/2013 9:07 AM, James Gray wrote: >> I agree, NAPA are the only real parts stores left. I went to an auto zone and >> asked for a set of plugs by name & type. The person at the counter needed the >> make & model of the car. I told him it was a '98 corvette. He asked if it was >> a v6 or v8. Had I been on my game that day I would have insisted it was a >> flat12 >> And sat back to watch his head implode. >> Jim g. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 18:24:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3034440EDA for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 18:24:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc2-s25.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s25.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.100]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3364D403DA for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 18:24:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY164-DS13 ([65.54.190.124]) by bay0-omc2-s25.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:22:16 -0700 From: "Terry Stetler" To: "fot" References: <2057774768-1364439772-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-459266624-@b4.c8.bise6.blackberry><5154D4C7.6070503@pobox.com> <4AA3AB3F-4D0A-469A-808F-C2E91B45C893@seiri.com> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 20:22:16 -0400 <4AA3AB3F-4D0A-469A-808F-C2E91B45C893@seiri.com> Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 20:22:16 -0400 FILETIME=[77730330:01CE2C13] Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I fooled my local Auto Value, who actually are pretty good they have been around a long time, the other day by asking for an oil filter for a 1997 Pontiac Firebird. The counter guy said, "Wait, did you say 1997?" Hehe. I always am asking for some part for pre 1960 cars, or some obscure foreign thing, you know, like Triumph parts, so I ambushed them with a modern part. Pretty funny. Terry Stetler _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 18:32:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B792403FC for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 18:32:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF3F403F8 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 18:30:05 -0600 (MDT) a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:17 a=a1-zNaUMPu0A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=ZNOsuApK0JIA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=I_aNZoQw0dada9A7obsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=lbPAF5ioMtcMxbxN:21 a=iDNFHKX86iwTztRI:21 a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:117 Received: from [75.86.207.181] ([75.86.207.181:49340] helo=HPLaptop) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id CE/5D-27807-000E4515; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 00:27:44 +0000 From: "Steve Yott" To: "'Larry Young'" , Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 19:27:42 -0500 Organization: Silver Lake Triumphs Thread-Index: Ac4sBqKdJQ8DBdMBTUaeFl4rC5eZxgADCO2A Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cyl cam bearings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Larry, Many of the parts providers sell cam bearing sets for the TR6 blocks so that you don't have to buy two sets of Spitfire bearings. The block needs then to be line bored to the specs you stated. The number of machine shops that have the necessary machines and knowledge are becoming few and far between so make sure you have an experienced person in your area. I just had this procedure performed on a block for a customer by a reputable company and the cost was in the area of $375.00 with boring, fitting and cleaning of the block. You do not need to alter the camshaft in any way and any standard diameter TR6 camshaft will fit but the bearings may need some "fitting" which is in the cost I provided. Now for my opinion!!! If you are racing this engine at full bore with a very high lift camshaft then I would not hesitate fitting the bearings but be prepared to replace these every time you freshen the engine. The stock TR6 has a high chrome content and wears very little and what I have seen over the years is more worn cams than blocks! I have seen a good number of street and lower power race engines with little to no wear after 80k miles! Just my opinion! Steve Yott -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Young Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 5:50 PM To: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] 6 cyl cam bearings I know this has been discussed, but I must have been asleep, so I apologize. As I understand it, if you want to put cam bearings in a 6 cylinder TR, you use Spitfire 1296 bearings (1 or 2 sets?). The block must be bored from 1.9680 - 1.9695. The bearing journals on the cam must be ground to fit the bearings. Doesn't this restrict the cam lift? What is the cam bearing ID compared to the stock setup with no bearing? Thanks, Larry _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 18:46:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 167C54282F for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 18:46:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844B9403CF for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 18:45:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 368F71C0000B9 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 20:42:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mud003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mud003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.195.73]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E2778E00008D for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 20:42:52 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m180.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.137) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 28 Mar 2013 20:42:52 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 20:42:52 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364517773; bh=kPaNRrwU72uO//hzWpsHVvTfmAn0kYz5/sH27N63mDo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dsDe2BrZxbTrSP/UT3iIM86JNFBoJul0cac9eIBVzDH3t1gB8goeIbluS4BJMzgqK 9p6oYux8BZ6N9j5Mu4VIh4z8AqcZPDKUZu+41dYGHjuKSgxZQ41UYBB8NRoCjIgJXg HMurqni3v1znRsjQ8O2XGT0TnShVVqqm+jtvb7AY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d5154e38c3594 Subject: [Fot] GREENWOOD, INC 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF FIRST RACE IN jUNE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Got a call from Shawn Frank today. Today it was decided to hold a reunion at the old GREENWOOD course near Indianola, IA. Shawn and Steve Meyer are both FOT and both involved. The embryonic website is GREENWOODREVIVAL.COM I think the date is going to be June 8th for the festivities. I should be there. I was there 50 years ago with my MG-TD and working T-1. I suspect that more than a few of us are familiar with this 1960s effort to bring ROAD RACING to IOWA. SCCA REGIONAL CLUBS were actually quite active in IOWA during the 50s and 60s. Check it out. The track is in very sad shape, but it is still there. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 19:09:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82AD642454 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 19:09:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm35-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm35-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.238.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45BBA40442 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 19:09:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.150] by nm35.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2013 01:06:38 -0000 Received: from [98.139.173.172] by tm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2013 01:06:38 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp101-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2013 01:06:38 -0000 s=s1024; t=1364519198; bh=3H2hZAbPsoTOuVkQHUeRJBlXcqqoWDmWx2SlQaXMa0Q=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Subject:References:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=MyFwemQdQwoidwvHXqXiHh0Ie80d5UzAI4CtcMWJE1doQWH1NpoFwuRhCcv59dc3dMsFhfCqpE362m6bJI0vEBB+vIH5SWksZcMGnjq5NeKDA5eMM+f7blD82SeJ9Xk/hNY7Fhm5d8HMVYunGtv6MZwiArO4HSjJFr0iK12PqqE= MJEjbSVJ2bfxzqNHRGHaKnHNFGFT.zTlA6fNmHEhPjvuaRNgqKiL5JLgMoSR Iubypw4nkn7Oj6vmHZ2YtaxQJaoC8MgAqzUM4yZS.y19xR0I4wWGvWG0r3j. 1lilyaKtw8smt2iJkTZjzraJw8KT_Xtii.rAPUgjKZ7U79IvHcf0VSIYJPJj LAVDPBiBhJt0FzX8jJRGGRDp1AryFnI2Rr5_YGA0hCaHns7g99pw9Q0IJEG4 WOYHhzAYXGY.h9r41Ti3iQ0eOJJgg44IltOME_Cy1OyE7Z3ui8fpufEozy.v vBnclvXQsdYhF_qycovbaTvj6ABflL2JwsOqgxR_WTCplvgarEY.LLjpyJnm 9Sp8ZHHfYqEAYW3q3k4to755go01NiDipNuFFgb6wesNrIy.tcMqfgfDDURn MMpIvEyUOolu_TCmJxZf3EOynFaovwoJZUe99IQykJpf6NcL58TcH6Gk38fB XGbOM1RJRusnSP50BvbORdmmZV9B.b.oB7nNP9zdJstnL70pwJ6zaSVYYngC uCC55 with xymcookie) by smtp101-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Mar 2013 18:06:38 -0700 PDT References: <47E14593-26EE-413A-B8E3-5D8EFDC9263B@yahoo.com> From: "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 19:06:37 -0600 To: Triumph Friends of Subject: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This brings back memories of the smell of grease, when you pulled in to the station! >> >> >> http://hipspics.freewebspace.com/gas/gas.html _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 19:18:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BCB140EDD for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 19:18:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8938140404 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 19:13:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HD961l0020x6nqcAFDB1fl; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 01:11:01 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HDB01l0082vctGa8YDB0fh; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 01:11:00 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: , "'Triumph Friends of'" References: <47E14593-26EE-413A-B8E3-5D8EFDC9263B@yahoo.com> <62C30BFC-A9D4-4BC4-A019-F2F6DAD44E10@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 18:10:58 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac4sGbkB5GbPjLsJRDK633Zi7kpHxgAAG2Uw Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1364519461; bh=awaMwK/wCm0LKmktVy9beul+Slw9hWdwtQ/y93sA7xY=; h=Received:Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NL8VADTWOKmOv+3zZoFr2QXzBhGUmbSogHXrdpw+zNluHxsQNcOCIZEdhb8bUyKpB PT8iD8W2huRZKFXlx0QnWjV1PKt/UpIKobHgH22pqEM5P2oZP4LncN9DMZ03OT78fw rVHEP67Dp5ZiBI7USHedfzT2StXrq9VsgXy76AqHeOLcHEszYaYrlO0IgY/o0O34mj QiePgTYpWwUJXcDb4X6pB0024MojZdJLkdZhLqZce07t6Rchv+Z7mi2yauUt1qvbDr kCJf2S6w/jfxKO//BASFLmfGqu6+Uhc3PXDFLx7SbnxTia+QDaLeO/ISsszMz+WZOV EoBYe0a3kvi+w== Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Very cool!...I remember gas wars in Reno when it got down to 5 cents..about 1965 RB -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 6:07 PM To: Triumph Friends of Subject: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear This brings back memories of the smell of grease, when you pulled in to the station! >> >> >> http://hipspics.freewebspace.com/gas/gas.html _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 19:28:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765E840EDA for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 19:28:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s23.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s23.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.98]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D9240434 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 19:28:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU402-EAS403 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s23.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 28 Mar 2013 18:25:48 -0700 References: <47E14593-26EE-413A-B8E3-5D8EFDC9263B@yahoo.com> <62C30BFC-A9D4-4BC4-A019-F2F6DAD44E10@yahoo.com> From: Charles WATSON Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 21:25:47 -0400 To: "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" FILETIME=[57F87450:01CE2C1C] Cc: Triumph Friends of Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net My clearest memory of my only childhood trip to Disneyworld in the early 70's was the awesome Gulf station with about 16 fill-up lanes. Who needs Mickey. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2013, at 9:06 PM, "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" wrote: > This brings back memories of the smell of grease, when you pulled in to the > station! > >>> >>> >>> http://hipspics.freewebspace.com/gas/gas.html > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/clw2000@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 19:33:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E1740ED9 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 19:33:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp05.bis6.us.blackberry.com (smtp05.bis6.us.blackberry.com [74.82.85.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D4540ED9 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 19:28:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from b4.c8.bise6.blackberry ([192.168.0.104]) by srs.bis6.us.blackberry.com (8.13.7 TEAMON/8.13.7) with ESMTP id r2T1Ds4K000314 for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 01:25:51 GMT Sensitivity: Normal To: "FOT" From: gasket.works@gte.net Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 01:25:53 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Another... I went to local pep boys for a 6 volt battery. (It was for a 1914 cadillac I have.) The fellow asks what car and year. I tell him. He can't find it in computer, Duh. Then I say its for a 1932 Model A ford. Not in computer either. Ok I say... Do you have any 6 volt batteries? I don't know he says. Can you look? What do they look like? M Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 20:18:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B942D4249E for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 20:18:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f181.google.com (mail-ve0-f181.google.com [209.85.128.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2051140EA7 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 20:15:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f181.google.com with SMTP id pa12so175466veb.12 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 19:13:35 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:x-originating-ip:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=lxJbnCt1P0wp+Te9qrVM+VoeOMdU4Z0EQHM3rnpOHE0=; b=Aku/nlY200nHBhmIRToQfmjlIanE3Lvihto7+bUq4lxXHzwZsSEcIDzN76tvuCYe4e kGlodUoszPyl7E1m/H9ol81TgFG7mxiQ8wACTuxjnn5DtnQgaISEEtroOj+CDvdJ4/gY ZMThQIM0EwEGdN6nVx6NonoytGdQHG0vM2j330RJPRW9RHussFSIhe4XF7yjvmas6jXX frIPKDp7GFd+aK2xwnqFv+06cAP6EnF2uMC9spKh7sTR1OZlcvTSC4uhCxNp6XHt6WDE 4pX2mrkzEfSS56fTz7WV1AzvWsjvVt6ji2hUpRUPBH6DVhPQvQrypv/8hbLA3zXQnI5g Cn2g== bl20mr589308vdb.85.1364523215385; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 19:13:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.98.3 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 19:13:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 21:13:35 -0500 From: Jason Ostrowski To: triumph friends Subject: [Fot] Paddock Info for Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Good News for ALL Kastner Cup Attendees!!! >From the outset, one of the key aspects for planning this year's "Kastner Cup" was to somehow have all the Triumph folks in one localized paddock area. Over the past couple days some major strides have been made with VSCDA and Road America Regarding an EXCLUSIVE TRIUMPH PADDOCK for our entire weekend. The FOT has strength in numbers. VSCDA and ROAD AMERICA have seemed to realize how big this event is and they are working with us nicely. Joe has been putting in tons of effort on FOT's behalf. This will be a special event. Thanks to Joe's aggressive 5 star service. So, Long Story Short.... FOT will have 1) Our own EXCLUSIVE TRIUMPH ONLY paddock area. 2) Our own dedicated garage type hospitality structure (holds 36 cars and will serve as our HUB of Triumph activity) 3) Electric. Power will be available to anyone who rents a garage space. (driver cost for garage slot and power = $50.00) OFFICIAL NOTICE TO ALL Kastner Cup Driver's and teams: At this point Here's your 3 options for use of the Exclusive Triumph Paddock (All entrants must pick one of the following options and contact jason@multivintage.com with the details.) A) You are planning on being at the race with your race car and tow vehicle and you don't want a garage space or power. WHAT YOU NEED to Do...Contact Jason with your... a) general car info b) tow rig type and total size, c) additional space next to your tow rig that will be used for camping, canopy, or car space. Cost is Zero, your spot is secured. Example: John Reed, 1969 Triumph GT6+ #69, Honda minivan and 12' open trailer, 12x12 ez-up and large tent. B) You are planning on being at the race with your race car and tow vehicle and you want a garage spot and power. WHAT YOU NEED to DO...Contact Jason with your... a) general car info b) tow rig type and total size c) additional space needed next to your tow rig that will be used for camping, canopy, or car space Cost is $50.00 per car using the garage spot, your spot is secured. (you must snail mail a check payable to "Wonderland" to Wonderland Multivintage 3731 Grand Blvd, Brookfield IL 60513.) Example: Tony Garmey, Triumph 250k, Bill Hart, Triumph Devin, killer Ferrari transport vehicle, 110' rig with 60'x40' cannopy. staying at hotel. Bill's Devin only in the garage = $50.00 sent to Wonderland Tony and Bill will both use the garage = $100.00 sent to Wonderland. C) You are planning on being at the race with your race car and tow vehicle and you are "Grandfathered in" to a spot far better than we are offering at this time because you have earned a high status among the RA elite and are a "shareholder with benefits." WHAT YOU NEED to DO...Contact Jason with your... a) general car info b) Jock strap size c) When is the Wine and Cheese Party? d) which cheese will we be able to smell from the "EXCLUSIVE TRIUMPH PADDOCK"? e) Submit an essay about "what it was like to race before electricity was invented". Cost is Zero, your spot is secured (but not by me) Unfortunately, you may need to walk or drive down a substantial hill to be with other Triumph people. If, by some chance, your concept of enjoying "the kastner cup" are not recognized by any of the above options, No Problem! Contact jason@multivintage.com with details and a custom plan will be made to accomodate your needs. Overview: this will be the best Kastner Cup yet! Sorry but I am unable to provide a photo of the garage structure in this email. If this is a critical point and you would like to see a photo of the garage building in question I could send you a photo attachment. Regardless, The Lester Garages and surrounding area will house the FOT for the entire weekend. This will be the HUB for Triumph activity. This will be the central area for poster signing/distribution of Triumph related materials. The Lester garages will serve as a resting place and center for invited guests of our group such as Kas and Peggy Kastner and All other FOT people. This garage and surrounding area will be a centralized location for all we are doing. It will be "THE TRIUMPH AREA" ...NICE!!! Triumph Group Tech will also happen in this area!!! Thursday eve. no matter what... if you are racing at this event, you must decide your paddock requirements and contact me with one of the choices listed above. Thank you very much! Adress all paddock questions and inquirys to me at jason@multivintage.com(no exceptions) and every attempt will be made to accomodate your needs. Jason Ostrowski Paddock Master 2013 Kastner Cup at RA. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 21:40:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66579428A9 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 21:40:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f177.google.com (mail-vc0-f177.google.com [209.85.220.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 289EE403FC for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 21:39:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f177.google.com with SMTP id ia10so195542vcb.8 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 20:37:34 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:x-originating-ip:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=H7I9tPT+3mk/KKmAn9F1NJDY640FYjG4yXtOTo/Qigg=; b=EWPCdXGyPzqPNAu0fDJyR3L8nySlq+TN0a3mhIkc0ztqxcMygCzdCJA6ojAHXhR2Tz 0dIk4gFmijYbwce9IsB2Vo8+0uv7Cnjg0t5crImg7fZhAe9UQZcy8eCehegU6br5nPo7 oYviZ4HzFI6KyA6gGTd4W4WW2gz5wkW/PInJfqDS3IHPmuFFVycTXysk7coHPAqEbC3Y uDlUpBQKbnC/rBFE6Yth9G88v2sTjUrJxBRBtCIgL4za3ltwMSmLiZUDUx7t89ggI1ES xRzgHK4x7EusI9rHOOW54RyHoMEDi14z4TTDodO1W7aAT4r+5MnhxTapGBOQVDsAuw7v AC2Q== o13mr695792vdf.78.1364528254351; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 20:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.98.3 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 20:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 22:37:33 -0500 From: Jason Ostrowski To: triumph friends Subject: [Fot] PADDOCK general questions and detals Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The "Lester" garages that FOT will have for the weekend are not fully enclosed. It is a solid, nicely covered, perfectly smooth, blacktopped, "open plan" garage. It houses a total of 36 cars and various equipment. Each spot is 10x15. It is next to the track after turn 14 on the inside of the track. Great access to turn 5 viewing and some other great spots. It is ours for the weekend. But we paid for it. "someone" did. And the cost of these spots are up for use as a show platform for what we do. We (FOT) would like to "sell" these 30 spots. (Basically to recoup our costs to get some of what we need and want...hospitality tent, local area, power) First come, first served. "What do people do with garage space versus space next to trailer during a race day -- between sessions?" That is up to you, the whole idea is to try to get trailers close as possible. But the 30+ spot garage is the 'exrta bounus' and will perhaps be something yet unseen Kastner Cup Awesomeness. and also pretty *** cool. It will have cars on show... and perhaps cars being worked on. I suppose what you do in your garage spot is dependant on how well you are prepared for "The Kastner Cup". What space does one have in the garage? about 10X15. But understand this is not like your own private garage. good or bad, Kastner, FoT and all the hoards of Triumph fans will be able to see lots of cars being scurried about and fussed over. And in the center will be spot for FOT hospitality and our special guests. Thank You FGR _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 22:28:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C16D424D8 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 22:28:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04513403FC for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 22:28:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.198]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 5DDEA1C0000B0 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 00:26:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.169.129.114] (mobile-198-228-224-113.mycingular.net [198.228.224.113]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 76848E0000B9 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 00:26:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Bock Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 00:25:59 -0400 To: FoTTriumph x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364531166; bh=ex8ay0NR1YENHamOXI/HdSVScS8bsnyUuI/fH70RXc0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=F8gfLKTCcF1bAikqPV7tDRjVbX+vrVtLr5UTNavzjC3h2o4pDiSfBVI0por+/+1pZ 7E3O6QC2yWL+QOY3n0G90OvBa+1LGFbV1Y7u1/xCEzh1OuPw5Zo4YyjQYEJU0XtZ4V 2Mdmn8JUREBJ5ikXm1xL9hMaqJNQ5wQ2uBQ6+KRE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c6515517dd7e90 Subject: [Fot] Crossing the marque line Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici My friend who races a MGA is building an engine after throwing a rod in his last one. We were talking and he is going from a MGB 5 main to a 3 main. One of the problems he stated was that the rear main uses a scroll seal and the info out there to convert this is a fluky setup. So I mention that there is a conversion for a tr3 or tr4 (?) that is good. Maybe it can be engineered or converted to the MGB 3 main. Soooooo. Is it possible? I don't have any measurements or picture or any other measurements. Just putting it out there _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 23:21:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF89D428DF for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 23:21:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm7-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm7-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.189]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89BC34009B for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 23:18:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.195] by nm7.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2013 05:15:49 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.56] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2013 05:15:49 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp109.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2013 05:15:49 -0000 5epwNAe1q_L_DCQsP3tp_JUXDaASS8L5n6.LVBrN1C7BnPpocMTiRH3emnHF KBGV5MObsmHbFaLv3HX2Apw_7dOJI.gCAHvSM2Fomc75hLFzivCsHGGLeYwi hHZhSKvUf8dHgGi1zPu6kGS8BymuV6FPMCpsgUCsV1.9xfgdANHTw8obtC.5 lcGZQdBzy8nEGlrrjwc3w0b7bpruBq8VQfFj9P9.UibriaSePOMdAF7arrGv fkELhm0L2QwPOWzMTnprj47AR1cD_8adIpYc6EQyXWwlRNp8pzEqqtIuHaGN PhOjwkkoFHkTmZnQ1dVIIDWR23U7.IrkmtwlzzJekVoMbrSstOqsGuYfIx0G tEdJSf9hLpr2wwWh1A0.RLvVLTPvRGrmmG05XTMCgdzcadhahDPttaiHJc35 iAbqhRACPdH5RKv8BsKsKX.yQxSkIBrjbwQ39ZEtL4Fjh4cnwSZSscq9j8XG gFE8eZL.gUS5LitDK42Z8JSovNU85CU6sQrue smtp109.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Mar 2013 22:15:49 -0700 PDT From: "Rocky Entriken" To: "Robert MacKenzie" , "'FOT'" References: <2057774768-1364439772-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-459266624-@b4.c8.bise6.blackberry> <023001ce2bbd$21767df0$646379d0$@aero> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 00:16:22 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net What gets me is I ask for a part for my 1964 Spitfire, and according to their "book" the earliest model of a Spitfire was 1972. Nowadays I just answer "It's a race car" and they quit looking for an easy catalogue match and now they have to find something that fits my purpose. Most humorous was when I installed the Volkswagen radiator in the Spit, and the hose connections both were on the opposite side from the stock Spit rad. The top one was easy, just turned the thermostat housing to the other side. For the bottom I went in with measurements ("I need a hose X inches long with a 90 degree bend at the bottom end") and they just let me prowl through their hose inventory until I found one (a Ford unit) that would work after I cut unneeded sections off. Fortunately, I guess, since local parts stores have nothing that goes on my car more specific than a nut and bolt, I do most of my parts shopping by mail-order. I have a drawer by my desk full of nothing but catalogues. --Rocky Entriken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert MacKenzie" To: "'FOT'" Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 9:04 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- > My recent AutoZone experience: > @ parts counter > Me: Do you have Champion RN9YC spark plugs in stock? > AutoZone Guy: How many do you need? > Me: I need four but I'll buy eight if you have them. > AZG: What car are they for? > Me: I know you don't have the car in your database. > AZG: That's the only way I can look them up? > Me: You can't search by part number? > AZG: No. > Me: Really? .well ok, it's a 1962 Triumph Spitfire > AZG: Well there's your problem, we don't carry motorcycle parts. > Me: It's a car. >>Click click click. > AZG: No, we don't have that car listed in out parts database but let me > check the stock shelves. >>At this point AutoZone Guy spends about 5 minutes going through every bin > containing Champion spark-plugs looking for RN9YCs. > AZG: We don't seem to have them on the shelf; what car was that again? > Me: 1962 Triumph Spitfire > AZG: we have a '63 Herald with an 1100 engine. > Me: That's it. Same engine. What plug does it list? > AZG: Champion RN9YC > Me: Do you have it in stock? > AZG: No. > > Robert MacKenzie > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of gasket.works@gte.net > Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:03 PM > To: FOT > Subject: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- > > I went to my local auto zone today. Behind the counter a clerk perhaps > 28y/o asked me what he could get for me. I asked "Where do you have your > timing lights?". He looked at me then calmly went to the computer and > asked > "What year and model?". > > I should have known better. I was there a couple of months ago. At that > time I asked for rod bearings for a small block chevy. it was a different > clerk similarly aged. He asked "What year and model?". I said "1972 > chevelle 350". He responds "front bearings?" > "No- all of them" I say. "Both sides?" He queries. Then I get this "a ha" > moment when I seriously believed we are doing an Abbott and Costello > "who's > on first". So I tell him " I don't think you understand" - "Engine rod > bearings standard size". So he looks at me and says. "What's that?". I > look at my son and then back at the clerk and say "I made a mistake I > thought this was an auto store". We walked out. > > I am going to write to their corporate office. > > M > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/list@mackenzie.aero > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rocky@spitfire4.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 28 23:40:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E2B74283C for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 23:40:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (fed1rmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC2140EA7 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 23:39:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo210 ([68.230.241.161]) by fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130329053732.LKMA21802.fed1rmfepo102.cox.net@fed1rmimpo210> for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 01:37:32 -0400 Received: from Vista ([68.110.89.224]) by fed1rmimpo210 with cox id HHdY1l0034qRjhw01HdYpm; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 01:37:32 -0400 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=P8IzDotRQgkA:10 a=Pyq9K9CWowscuQLKlpiwfMBGOR0=:19 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=6XBsmooNTa_PM52YZwIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: "'Triumph Friends of'" References: <47E14593-26EE-413A-B8E3-5D8EFDC9263B@yahoo.com><62C30BFC-A9D4-4BC4-A019-F2F6DAD44E10@yahoo.com> <006501ce2c1a$460445a0$d20cd0e0$@net> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 22:37:51 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac4sGbkB5GbPjLsJRDK633Zi7kpHxgAAG2UwAASwPTA= Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I remember those as well in my West Texas Home town. Two stations that sat next to each other were always getting into those gas wars. I long for those years when you could drive around for a week on a buck's worth of gas. Joe C. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of RACER BUD Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 6:11 PM To: Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com; 'Triumph Friends of' Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Very cool!...I remember gas wars in Reno when it got down to 5 cents..about 1965 RB _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 05:07:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2D042822 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 05:07:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from tr.ccfot.com (wsip-98-174-80-205.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE40A40ED3 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 05:06:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9ACAA4C091 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 07:04:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tr.ccfot.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tr.ccfot.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 44Nq8nV8NtVq for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 07:04:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from HENRYPRECISION (wsip-98-174-80-202.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.202]) (Authenticated sender: yellow04@tr4racer.com) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 249EDA4C087 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 07:04:28 -0400 (EDT) From: To: "triumph friends" References: Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 07:04:28 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] Paddock Info for Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mr. Paddock Master, With regards to choice C from you recent communication to your "triumph friends", there is some essential information that requires dissemination to the general public. However, there is information that I am afraid will be shared, but I really don't want to know. I like to be surprised by the cheese selections... PS. Is Don Brick and his cheese coming? > C) You are planning on being at the race with your race car and tow > vehicle > and you are "Grandfathered in" to a spot far better than we are offering > at > this time because you have earned a high status among the RA elite and are > a "shareholder with benefits." > WHAT YOU NEED to DO...Contact Jason with your... > a) general car info > b) Jock strap size > c) When is the Wine and Cheese Party? > d) which cheese will we be able to smell from the "EXCLUSIVE TRIUMPH > PADDOCK"? > e) Submit an essay about "what it was like to race before electricity was > invented". > Adress all paddock questions and inquirys to me at > jason@multivintage.com(no exceptions) and every attempt will be made > to accomodate your needs. > Jason Ostrowski > Paddock Master > 2013 Kastner Cup at RA. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 05:28:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D6642847 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 05:28:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from tr.ccfot.com (wsip-98-174-80-205.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3261A40ED9 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 05:26:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E5CA4C091 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 07:23:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tr.ccfot.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tr.ccfot.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kZYV0fnXAbbY for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 07:23:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from HENRYPRECISION (wsip-98-174-80-202.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.202]) (Authenticated sender: yellow04@tr4racer.com) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 0CD9FA4C08B for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 07:23:50 -0400 (EDT) From: To: References: <902F45A5-8067-4F92-9B18-3A573B2512E5@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 07:23:50 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] Praise for Hoosier Racing Tire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I had a Speedster that lost air faster than they usually do, it turned out to be leaking through the sidewall. I was at the Wild Hare Run, VDCA's wonderful April event at VIR a couple years back, and one of the pro teams that runs with us at that event has Hoosier come out to support them. I took my bad tire down to them, the boys looked at it and gave me one of Jeff Speer's business cards. I was told to call him the following week, tell him I was at the VIR event and talked to ??? (can't remember the dude's name) and tell him I have a tire he needs to see. I called Jeff, he said no problem, get me the tire. I am a half hour from Hoosier's east coast distributor, so I dropped the tire off there with my business cards. They shipped it back to Indiana at no cost to me, and two weeks later I get a statement in the mail from Hoosier Tire saying I have a credit for 1 new tire. They held that credit on their books for months until I bought another set of tires, and that set I only paid for 3! The bad tire had lots of heat cycles in it and didn't have many more good sessions in it, but Hoosier still replaced it. Great customer service. These days, that really is a breath of fresh air. Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud R" Subject: [Fot] Praise for Hoosier Racing Tire > > Jeff Speer was a pleasure to work with and he worked hard with his > people at Hoosier Racing Tire to make things right. Here's his contact > info. if you have tire needs. > > > Jeffrey A. Speer > Product Manager > > > 65465 US Hwy 31 > Lakeville, IN 46536 > www.hoosiertire.com > Phone: 574-784-3152 > Fax: 574-784-2385 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 05:44:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD9442456 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 05:44:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3304F40ED9 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 05:41:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.36.253]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MKF00AFZ71GXS00@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 06:39:18 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Joe Curry" , "'Triumph Friends of'" References: <47E14593-26EE-413A-B8E3-5D8EFDC9263B@yahoo.com><62C30BFC-A9D4-4BC4-A019-F2F6DAD44E10@yahoo.com> <006501ce2c1a$460445a0$d20cd0e0$@net> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 07:39:27 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a way I long for those days too. Then I remember that the prevailing wage for teens was $1.00 an hour! When I was a teen in the mid 60's gas was 27.9 for years. Times change, don't they? Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Curry" To: "'Triumph Friends of'" Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear >I remember those as well in my West Texas Home town. Two stations that sat > next to each other were always getting into those gas wars. I long for > those years when you could drive around for a week on a buck's worth of > gas. > > Joe C. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of RACER BUD > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 6:11 PM > To: Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com; 'Triumph Friends of' > Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear > > Very cool!...I remember gas wars in Reno when it got down to 5 > cents..about > 1965 > RB > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 05:52:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D03424B8 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 05:52:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DEA240ED9 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 05:52:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.36.253]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MKF006S27IK9T00@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 06:49:34 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: , "FOT" References: <2057774768-1364439772-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-459266624-@b4.c8.bise6.blackberry> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 07:49:43 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm fortunate in that there are three very good parts stores in the nearby towns, all of which morphed from the original in Meadville in the late 60's. They usually find me some obscure part for an old car or tractor. They let me prowl through the stock room and pick out what I need, sometimes blowing the dust off. Very knowledgable and helpful, and support the local communities. The "Big Box" stores use Wally World's model; stock the fast movers and max your profit. Here's to Spring. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "FOT" Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:02 PM Subject: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- >I went to my local auto zone today. Behind the counter a clerk perhaps >28y/o asked me what he could get for me. I asked "Where do you have your >timing lights?". He looked at me then calmly went to the computer and >asked "What year and model?". > > I should have known better. I was there a couple of months ago. At that > time I asked for rod bearings for a small block chevy. it was a different > clerk similarly aged. He asked "What year and model?". I said "1972 > chevelle 350". He responds "front bearings?" > "No- all of them" I say. "Both sides?" He queries. Then I get this "a ha" > moment when I seriously believed we are doing an Abbott and Costello > "who's on first". So I tell him " I don't think you understand" - "Engine > rod bearings standard size". So he looks at me and says. "What's that?". > I look at my son and then back at the clerk and say "I made a mistake I > thought this was an auto store". We walked out. > > I am going to write to their corporate office. > > M > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 06:39:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D894142278 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 06:39:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com (imr-db02.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3780040EDA for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 06:38:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B599A1C0000CE; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:36:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mud003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mud003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.195.73]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4B48AE000088; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:36:33 -0400 (EDT) References: <8CFFA90AB4B7F88-1600-268F3@webmail-m180.sysops.aol.com> To: fot@autox.team.net, triosan@gmail.com From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m180.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.137) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:36:33 -0400 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:36:33 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364560593; bh=Wx01Y32Aq4j+1RZ6VTsBS3awwszVsMGcKnftYUtaOUI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kMWDH69iyF07QM25PTGBB/U8ITnG2FjUnvewiPATRoNkYc+o09zYRpLo5n4oDPno5 FEWylQ/HOgrqwq/rH89bPVrjmOJl5KUxzy1lMefH16aD3jdmZyh9eonFUISETgHOGh Iw0ipuYyCAoEbFhEvGAtj5u+5/RBC7N6tu5lPymc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c751558ad10433 Subject: [Fot] Road AMERICA'S TEST AND TUNE PROGRAM (RATT) not part of Kastner Cup Weekend Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Subject: Road AMERICA'S TEST AND TUNE PROGRAM (RATT) not part of Kastner Cup Weekend Chuck, THE RATT Days is a program that ROAD AMERICA has marketed to racers throughout the season. I am not sure that Road America has scheduled anything on the Thursday of our event....yet. If they get a big contract from a commercial entity, they will choose that ... $$$ So, the issue is still open.......look at how the $900 Program is marketed. not your typical pre-race T & T Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 07:30:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14163403A6 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 07:30:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95BC0403A6 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 07:28:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.138]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 2AA831C00007F for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 09:25:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mud003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mud003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.195.73]) by mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id EBC9DE000085 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 09:25:40 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m180.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.137) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 29 Mar 2013 09:25:40 -0400 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 09:25:40 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364563541; bh=wsuEntkmRNlO3YWHVC9DKhCdFA+CNpogdGWujHBBBoY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IOfsoreITXvfUNV+7AfsJIc7/fqpXecjbdTlxuiTaMHsxc+b0DimQrRqZeElwDJLA p4xCp/WYjBVCVaH/lBtpfLzGDqBt2yn5W/BD8zRei89Ns3wvBPEdBd089RuQ5Is06h 6YBxur9gamP+aMtDS0Du6axUHyHcxrIzKB/sQfxE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338a5155965468b2 Subject: [Fot] ROAD AMERICA OPEN TEST DAYS - TENTATIVE SCHEDULE - ELVF Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Further review says that RA has published a 'TENTATIVE' test day for ELVF. No cost information is provided......it wont be $900, I am sure. If no big moneyed FISH swims by, RA will firm up the date and publish the details....stand by. THANKS! Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 08:08:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA3042849 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:08:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6AE40EDA for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:08:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.8]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id CFAA31C0000B5 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:06:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mud003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mud003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.195.73]) by mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 8542AE000081 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:06:01 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m180.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.137) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:06:01 -0400 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:06:01 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364565961; bh=rQrln9ABfeQDTFdStcaJjSi7EySeAg8J+ycbh/nAbks=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wZ3/YXQIuZkFRQgxZpgStSsdlVxn+/0gGV+ugsagEf0sFMqpvBSV2aZgjnzNjtR12 +jbbg6lZEVZM6cUnhdEV5V6uPw8UTXj9ONzM4LaDCVzD0hYZ3owg9G/5SG9+Q1/FZV L066D0D+MlREb8MtE0MsJowcU9T0+qdVZSJ4lySA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290851559fc912c9 Subject: [Fot] FEATURES AND BENEFITS OF THE LESTER GARAGES KASTNER CUP 2013 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net LOW COST $50 FOR THE WEEKEND ELECTRICITY 110V POWER OUTLET LIGHTING OVERHEAD LOCATED ON THE FRONT STRAIGHT with view of TURN 14 COMBINATION OF ASPHALT AND GRASS PARKING EASY ACCESS TO THE POPULAR TURN FIVE VIEWING AREA GROUP TECH HAS BEEN ARRANGED IN THE GARAGES with VSCDA's Dave Young. The obvious is that there is no need to set up canopies, take them down, or retrieve them after blowing away. The social benefits are clear....we travel great distances to be together and spend most of our hours in the paddock. The Lester garages were negotiated with Road America, including the installation of power. It is unlikely that any group will ever see this deal again in the future. If you know ROAD AMERICA, you will understand. We got kinda lucky. Check in with Jason, PADDOCK MASTER, ASAP Thanks! Joe Alexander KASTNER CUP 2013 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 08:32:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67DB542857 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:32:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B15A40EDD for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:31:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.200]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 11E9B1C0000E6; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:28:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtc003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtc003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.9]) by mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C46E8E000087; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:28:46 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:28:46 -0400 (EDT) To: yellow04@tr4racer.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364567327; bh=AXlZV7GtP72tgff4CIcCJq7ACZARanswwfJ16OYhO3o=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pCegr0ItQNBuA3rA9gbtbSEXlSNEfelZhJtiR1mltB15D/5A6B0u1cgLI2iGLyKm4 u+3hOg6OoqZty1NguooNd8+lJooy6hnkQd6WSYuEvZ8ba1zN24sYjJVLVCZLJvT7D0 9oLYjLdy7PsixaLVLBTfGPLVegvV//zz08KhOegQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c85155a51e6fac Subject: Re: [Fot] Praise for Hoosier Racing Tire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 03/29/2013 5:26:24 AM Central Standard Time, yellow04@tr4racer.com writes: > I had a Speedster that lost air faster than they usually do, it turned > out > to be leaking through the sidewall. It's been my experience that losing air through the sidewall of racing tires is sure not uncommon. For years while I was still running original ARW Silverstone mags on my TR3, I would carefully wash and inspect each wheel and tire looking for cracks in the spokes between events. I was always amazed to see all of the soap air bubbles that would surface from the sidewalls of each tire during the washing process. It made me aware that I was constantly losing some air through the sidewalls. Dunlop has been our tire of choice down through the years (they look so damn'd British), but we've run Goodyear and Hoosier sets as well. We have yet to experience what I would call unacceptable air loss through the sidewalls...but we are aware of the issue and sure check tire pressures carefully between sessions. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 12:12:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756F642847 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:12:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc3-s9.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc3-s9.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C264055F for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 12:31:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT401-EAS223 ([65.55.90.135]) by snt0-omc3-s9.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:29:20 -0700 References: From: Vince G Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 14:29:06 -0400 To: Craig Leinicke FILETIME=[29DCE9F0:01CE2BE2] Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Not everyone is up on antiques, especially the younger folk LOL Us old farts luv'm Sent from my iPhone On 2013-03-28, at 12:11 PM, "Craig Leinicke" wrote: > To add to this thread, a couple of years ago I asked the same 20+ year old > counter clerk at a local auto parts store about rear shock absorbers for a > Triumph TR7... He looked me square in the eye and said "Who makes Triumph?" > > When I replied... "Triumph makes Triumph" he looked at me like I had just > stepped off a space ship and had a third eye in the middle of my forehead. > > Needless to say, I didn't buy any parts that day. I understand that this > fellow probably wasn't born in 1981 when Triumph production came to an end > but you would think anyone with enough interest to work in the automotive > field would recognize major British auto manufacturers. > > The reality is that all of us have more knowledge about the workings of > automobiles than 90% of the people working the auto parts counters today. > > Craig Leinicke > Flashback Racing > > > On 3/28/13 3:35 AM, "Spitfire Racing" wrote: > >> I can remember when there were some 9 auto parts stores in this area and >> everyone of them had people that knew their stuff and many were motorheads >> who contributed expertise and experiences over the counter. On top of this, >> they had everything imaginable even if it was on a back shelf under a layer >> of dust. Oh, and might I add that everything was Made in USA back then and >> it always fit. Now there are three "chain" stores that have 35 different >> smelling dash ornaments, wax and googahs and any part is from some third >> world country and two days away. There's a 50/50 chance it will fit and >> function. >> Welcome to the ugly new world. It's not confined to auto parts >> stores......... >> Me, I long for the way it was back 40-50 years ago. On many levels! >> >> Russ Moore >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On >> Behalf Of gasket.works@gte.net >> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:03 PM >> To: FOT >> Subject: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- >> >> I went to my local auto zone today. Behind the counter a clerk perhaps >> 28y/o asked me what he could get for me. I asked "Where do you have your >> timing lights?". He looked at me then calmly went to the computer and asked >> "What year and model?". >> >> I should have known better. I was there a couple of months ago. At that >> time I asked for rod bearings for a small block chevy. it was a different >> clerk similarly aged. He asked "What year and model?". I said "1972 >> chevelle 350". He responds "front bearings?" >> "No- all of them" I say. "Both sides?" He queries. Then I get this "a ha" >> moment when I seriously believed we are doing an Abbott and Costello "who's >> on first". So I tell him " I don't think you understand" - "Engine rod >> bearings standard size". So he looks at me and says. "What's that?". I >> look at my son and then back at the clerk and say "I made a mistake I >> thought this was an auto store". We walked out. >> >> I am going to write to their corporate office. >> >> M >> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/craigl@leinickegroup.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 12:13:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC91403FC for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:13:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-out.emea.daimler.com (mail-out.emea.daimler.com [141.113.102.113]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7272040E4D; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 13:08:11 -0600 (MDT) To: levilevi@comcast.net From: peter.bulkowski@mercedes-benz.ca Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 14:05:57 -0500 References: sstrdg63.wk.dcx.com/Server/Prod/DCX(Release 8.5.2FP4|November 17, 2011) at 28/03/2013 20:05:49,CD-MIME complete at 28/03/2013 20:05:49,Itemize by Router on sstrdg63.wk.dcx.com/Server/Prod/DCX(Release 8.5.2FP4|November 17, 2011) at 28/03/2013 20:05:49 YvKhOUwOzB67fs9g95j8eA5jAFMUl01Kak5mWWqRvl0CV8aNmSkFK6Qr5sxdwt7AOI2/i5GD Q0LARGLHXakuRk4gU0ziwr31bF2MXBxCAkcZJbofr2GHcHYySsyZ/5sNpEpI4BGjxNObwiA2 r4CgxI/J91hAbE4Be4lbX1aA2cIChhIXui6C2SICEhIfGjazg9jMAkYS224/ZoPoDZWYM/M5 mM0moCZxa3U7WA2LgKrE+iPz2CDqtSQ2b2tihbC1JZ68u8AKcYOdxIuJTUwQV7tL9H3Zyw5h C0lMebYLKs4nMXfpJkaQByQEljBJHJx+kG0Co8gsJHfPQrJjFpIdCxiZVzHKJxbrFifqGhgZ 66XmpibqJaXrJecXFQAjoihRLy+1ZBMjOCpECncw3p0me4hRgINRiYf3RktIoBBrYllxZe4h RgkOZiUR3qY4oBBvSmJlVWpRfnxRaU5q8SFGaQ4WJXHe6Q5PAoQE0hNLUrNTUwtSi2CyTByc Ug2M+7z8/5768lRU/HjPrhvvFzL1L2Cy3aKu9VMmwXzhvt3lO9+5/jc4nX01y+l9e94tCx2F u4tS15/3LJpixGPf53VHOkAmcmHMI7Yt0v73CmpuzgnlEDzLGHaw/o/brdg9/MFbTk4pMK68 fkRzUvLkJdyH/XZ5Xr9V3rB/Z9S9PZ0155eKz5lhrMRSnJFoqMVcVJwIALhxHJCGAgAA Cc: fot-bounces@autox.team.net, fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Praise for Hoosier Racing Tire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I also hat some issue with Hoosier Tire (not there fault) and Jeff was also were help full in solving my Tire wear. Were dedicated people. #42 TR 8 Peter Bulkowski Technical Manager ,Special Projects 98 Vanderhoof Ave. Toronto,Ontario, M4G 4C9 CANADA Direct line +416 847 7514 Mobil line +416 520 6108 Fax line +416 425 6370 NEW E-Mail peter.bulkowski@mercedes-benz.ca levilevi@comcast. net Sent by: To fot-bounces@autox fot@autox.team.net .team.net cc Subject 03/28/2013 12:13 [Fot] Praise for Hoosier Racing PM Tire I've always been willing to complain when venders disappoint or don't provide products as advertised so I'm glad to be able to heap some praise for an outstanding vender. I want to commend the Corporate Office at Hoosier Racing Tire, and Jeff Speer in particular, for handling an issue that had come up with the Hoosier tires on my Spitfire. Thanks also to Jim Gray for recommending that I call Hoosier about the air pressure loss I kept having. He said that Hoosier was a company that stands behind their tires and he could not have been more right. It is obvious why Hoosier tires are so respected and used. They focus on customer service and satisfaction. Jeff Speer was a pleasure to work with and he worked hard with his people at Hoosier Racing Tire to make things right. Here's his contact info. if you have tire needs. Jeffrey A. Speer Product Manager 65465 US Hwy 31 Lakeville, IN 46536 www.hoosiertire.com Phone: 574-784-3152 Fax: 574-784-2385 Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bulkowskip@mercedes-benz.ca _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 12:13:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058BA403FC for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:13:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4238F403DA for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 18:23:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.74]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id H5vn1l00X1bwxycA1CM5ZL; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 00:21:05 +0000 Received: from Bud ([50.131.168.135]) by omta18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HCM41l00e2vctGa8eCM4al; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 00:21:05 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "'Bob Bownes - Seiri'" , "'Larry Young'" References: <2057774768-1364439772-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-459266624-@b4.c8.bise6.blackberry> <5154D4C7.6070503@pobox.com> <4AA3AB3F-4D0A-469A-808F-C2E91B45C893@seiri.com> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:21:03 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac4sEqbPXmvmPKvlSO+XFPVTOVWefAAAEJug Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1364516465; bh=zTLKv9iS6OBmH+zHxjUs/ZPpOukxKbjj++/TjFaOhsY=; h=Received:Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NfpXH2zyv3ycHE5FVFo2zF2tz/9g/uzYbHQbRhsKPhqfy8eh2IHr8P2DgyBWXzUbX 62jUJaTFoolphoc8R2+FlX4r5D1+p9pSppkNWaAEHUKptJwUQUVpWuf4wMPm6nV0Mz h32wjfKH/s3oK86/EBOKzDvuGvs8ZKFyullsvEUh1fzDUMsC9JVEYNwUKdaIMixHNJ G8/dlvcLSh8KlO7Zon2zI/MsP1H7MV19wX+UXq3cRBxhUgN5n9u47f5vhJDUERps2E b8sTHkPEsr2VQDAecb+khFB2wyzGnVW3Sw+4P6+6tC/LHdTJeWrqPMNWay6/zcAeXa wFxJxFEYkDJMQ== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I think it depends on who we deal with...My NAPA store makes a point of 'finding the part that will work, fit, etc'..they even mic stuff for me and match it up that way. RB -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Bownes - Seiri Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 5:16 PM To: Larry Young Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- My favorite answer for the make model year question is 1958 Wartburg. :) On Mar 28, 2013, at 19:39, Larry Young wrote: > Not even Napa. I went in and asked for an generic exhaust hanger. > After asking the make, model and year it was for, she said I don't think we carry those. There are other Napa stores in the area that are better staffed. > > I usually try and avoid the "make, model and year" question, but some > times I just have to say customized 1914 Ford or whatever weird thing I'm working on at the time. I have to admit though that sometimes you get someone that will take the time to match up what you want with what they have. > Larry > > > On 3/28/2013 9:07 AM, James Gray wrote: >> I agree, NAPA are the only real parts stores left. I went to an auto >> zone and >> asked for a set of plugs by name & type. The person at the counter >> needed the >> make & model of the car. I told him it was a '98 corvette. He asked >> if it was >> a v6 or v8. Had I been on my game that day I would have insisted it >> was a >> flat12 >> And sat back to watch his head implode. >> Jim g. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 12:14:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA14428A9 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:14:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com (outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com [64.136.47.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3920E40356 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 18:38:58 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1364517397; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=AGbr0BP6b+LFAabBsrYryO1UT6onKOx71kDCAma4AUAVxKGXos/AMcdKz0j+PJSZQ ehf+aIIV903/ukkiX9IZ4fc5ncbJYK9yIIVslMDC8kJuRllAyldv9s/RUTwDR9p2AB yXnbn2c4eOKXBkLpIvPOR4icl40Hs+YqcnZcITuI= Received: from outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com (webmail03.dca.untd.com [10.171.12.143]) by smtpout04.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABJXK2RCAASB6L2 for (sender ); Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:35:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [76.23.185.62] by webmail03.dca.untd.com with HTTP: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 00:34:32 GMT From: "Joe Boruch" Full-Name: "Joe Boruch" Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 00:34:32 GMT To: sbarr@McCarty-Law.com, fot@autox.team.net Cc: tomstrange5@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Head Gasket Coating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have never sprayed this particular type of product, so I don't know if it sprays out like spray paint or undercoating. If like spray paint, then should be able to get an even coat. Joe ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Barr, Scott" To: 'Joe Boruch' Cc: 'tom strange' Subject: RE: [Fot] Head Gasket Coating Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 13:26:26 +0000 Would you be able to apply this evenly enough to seal? I wonder whether this might be a nice adjunct to a copper gasket where used to lower the compression ratio or clear piston pop-up, but where the copper gasket isn't sealing well. Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Boruch Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 7:16 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Head Gasket Coating I have been debating the merits of coating a steel shim head gasket with a Fluoroelastomer (Viton) coating. Cometic gaskets are Viton coated. There are Fluoroelastomer coatings available in aerosol cans. Have any of you tried anything like this? Joe(B) ____________________________________________________________ OVERSTOCK ipads: $30.93 Get 32GB Apple iPad for as low as $30.93. Limit 1.Day. Grab yours Now! _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com ____________________________________________________________ How to Sleep Like a Rock Obey this one natural trick to fall asleep and stay asleep all night. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 12:14:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9454440046 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:14:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (imr-mb02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A5340EDA for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 06:35:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.9]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 73C173800006E; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:32:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mud003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mud003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.195.73]) by mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 24732E000081; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:32:54 -0400 (EDT) To: triosan@gmail.com Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m180.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.137) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:32:53 -0400 From: Joe Alexander Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:32:54 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364560374; bh=y/b4yb0TCDgtidNofiKv51f4JxKWS+e2CZr3UQTZpiI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=h0aH7OZpSYD/MnsWX0uOvKe2X7sQEw6xKjTTDjgFhtB1IXbsL/C6XOwArREGL3G0G wViXjwG1Lv6w4iLZ1tba6A2/loRjXqyH9MCrFnTedjFfb7YEciVLHfSKrJlHH42zb3 Xv8IRYKhaFMlZGP3DpiRsIdAQsT2DQSMCjx1nnlk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2909515589f61b21 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Road AMERICA'S TEST AND TUNE PROGRAM (RATT) not part of Kastner Cup Weekend Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Chuck, THE RATT Days is a program that ROAD AMERICA has marketed to racers throughout the season. I am not sure that Road America has scheduled anything on the Thursday of our event....yet. If they get a big contract from a commercial entity, they will choose that ... $$$ So, the issue is still open.......look at how the $900 Program is marketed. not your typical pre-race T & T Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley To: Jason Ostrowski ; Joe Alexander Sent: Thu, Mar 28, 2013 9:47 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Paddock Info for Kastner Cup Cost for racing at Kas Cup. Any iea what the race fees are? I just looked at there test an tune schedule an see thee is one Thusday before our event -- but it cost $900!!!! [I am used to fees between $200-350 for a test and tune day before a race at Seattle, Portland, The Ridge, etc. Getting worried about what the Cup entry fee for the weekend will be??? On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: Good News for ALL Kastner Cup Attendees!!! >From the outset, one of the key aspects for planning this year's "Kastner Cup" was to somehow have all the Triumph folks in one localized paddock area. Over the past couple days some major strides have been made with VSCDA and Road America Regarding an EXCLUSIVE TRIUMPH PADDOCK for our entire weekend. The FOT has strength in numbers. VSCDA and ROAD AMERICA have seemed to realize how big this event is and they are working with us nicely. Joe has been putting in tons of effort on FOT's behalf. This will be a special event. Thanks to Joe's aggressive 5 star service. So, Long Story Short.... FOT will have 1) Our own EXCLUSIVE TRIUMPH ONLY paddock area. 2) Our own dedicated garage type hospitality structure (holds 36 cars and will serve as our HUB of Triumph activity) 3) Electric. Power will be available to anyone who rents a garage space. (driver cost for garage slot and power = $50.00) OFFICIAL NOTICE TO ALL Kastner Cup Driver's and teams: At this point Here's your 3 options for use of the Exclusive Triumph Paddock (All entrants must pick one of the following options and contact jason@multivintage.com with the details.) A) You are planning on being at the race with your race car and tow vehicle and you don't want a garage space or power. WHAT YOU NEED to Do...Contact Jason with your... a) general car info b) tow rig type and total size, c) additional space next to your tow rig that will be used for camping, canopy, or car space. Cost is Zero, your spot is secured. Example: John Reed, 1969 Triumph GT6+ #69, Honda minivan and 12' open trailer, 12x12 ez-up and large tent. B) You are planning on being at the race with your race car and tow vehicle and you want a garage spot and power. WHAT YOU NEED to DO...Contact Jason with your... a) general car info b) tow rig type and total size c) additional space needed next to your tow rig that will be used for camping, canopy, or car space Cost is $50.00 per car using the garage spot, your spot is secured. (you must snail mail a check payable to "Wonderland" to Wonderland Multivintage 3731 Grand Blvd, Brookfield IL 60513.) Example: Tony Garmey, Triumph 250k, Bill Hart, Triumph Devin, killer Ferrari transport vehicle, 110' rig with 60'x40' cannopy. staying at hotel. Bill's Devin only in the garage = $50.00 sent to Wonderland Tony and Bill will both use the garage = $100.00 sent to Wonderland. C) You are planning on being at the race with your race car and tow vehicle and you are "Grandfathered in" to a spot far better than we are offering at this time because you have earned a high status among the RA elite and are a "shareholder with benefits." WHAT YOU NEED to DO...Contact Jason with your... a) general car info b) Jock strap size c) When is the Wine and Cheese Party? d) which cheese will we be able to smell from the "EXCLUSIVE TRIUMPH PADDOCK"? e) Submit an essay about "what it was like to race before electricity was invented". Cost is Zero, your spot is secured (but not by me) Unfortunately, you may need to walk or drive down a substantial hill to be with other Triumph people. If, by some chance, your concept of enjoying "the kastner cup" are not recognized by any of the above options, No Problem! Contact jason@multivintage.com with details and a custom plan will be made to accomodate your needs. Overview: this will be the best Kastner Cup yet! Sorry but I am unable to provide a photo of the garage structure in this email. If this is a critical point and you would like to see a photo of the garage building in question I could send you a photo attachment. Regardless, The Lester Garages and surrounding area will house the FOT for the entire weekend. This will be the HUB for Triumph activity. This will be the central area for poster signing/distribution of Triumph related materials. The Lester garages will serve as a resting place and center for invited guests of our group such as Kas and Peggy Kastner and All other FOT people. This garage and surrounding area will be a centralized location for all we are doing. It will be "THE TRIUMPH AREA" ...NICE!!! Triumph Group Tech will also happen in this area!!! Thursday eve. no matter what... if you are racing at this event, you must decide your paddock requirements and contact me with one of the choices listed above. Thank you very much! Adress all paddock questions and inquirys to me at jason@multivintage.com(no exceptions) and every attempt will be made to accomodate your needs. Jason Ostrowski Paddock Master 2013 Kastner Cup at RA. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 12:15:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B494294D for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:15:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta41.charter.net (mta41.charter.net [216.33.127.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4001403DA for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 07:33:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130329133056.EZSC10143.mta41.charter.net@imp10>; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 09:30:56 -0400 Received: from [10.0.1.4] ([24.196.153.8]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id HRWv1l00D0B81vc05RWwyM; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 09:30:56 -0400 a=QhwFlP9zo++XkZcNwIRI4g==:17 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=P8IzDotRQgkA:10 a=Pyq9K9CWowscuQLKlpiwfMBGOR0=:19 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=XLk-TET7lwOyWnCJVjwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=QhwFlP9zo++XkZcNwIRI4g==:117 References: <47E14593-26EE-413A-B8E3-5D8EFDC9263B@yahoo.com> <62C30BFC-A9D4-4BC4-A019-F2F6DAD44E10@yahoo.com> <006501ce2c1a$460445a0$d20cd0e0$@net> From: Jerry Barr Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:30:56 -0500 To: Bill Tobin Cc: Triumph Friends of Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I was one of those buck an hour kids working in a gas station. But I could put more than 5 gallons of gas in my 53 Ford for a buck. During the gas wars the price would drop under 19cents a gallon. My how times change. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 29, 2013, at 6:39 AM, "Bill Tobin" wrote: > In a way I long for those days too. Then I remember that the prevailing wage for teens was $1.00 an hour! > When I was a teen in the mid 60's gas was 27.9 for years. > Times change, don't they? > Cheers, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Curry" > To: "'Triumph Friends of'" > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 1:37 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear > > >> I remember those as well in my West Texas Home town. Two stations that sat >> next to each other were always getting into those gas wars. I long for >> those years when you could drive around for a week on a buck's worth of gas. >> >> Joe C. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On >> Behalf Of RACER BUD >> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 6:11 PM >> To: Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com; 'Triumph Friends of' >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear >> >> Very cool!...I remember gas wars in Reno when it got down to 5 cents..about >> 1965 >> RB >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerrybarr@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 12:15:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0523242910 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:15:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dsmdc-mail-smtp.mcomdc.com (mail-smtp03.mcomdc.com [97.64.187.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58FF3403F8 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:50:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DONANDDAWN ([50.83.139.21]) by dsmdc-mail-omta-02 with bizsmtp id HSnt1l00B0TtPRe01Snt0v; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 09:47:54 -0500 a=l6CeufsxrLHn3AeQikNNew==:17 a=NgyhHqeRdlcA:10 a=BlNAP0SAIawA:10 a=Hd4JvI9PAAAA:8 a=M9fY7_h6MXIA:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=879b_Iw0AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=kKcH1uCHsJP757DI858A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=1QNhSFbQkrsA:10 a=fgaDyQ9hHf4A:10 a=KQaimtW6OmaO6h99:21 a=b8RynGr2QlQ7vxH_:21 a=Z_DqIC6d3giDHE6V8y4A:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=PwPLiWe4GSCRYXzG:21 a=l6CeufsxrLHn3AeQikNNew==:117 From: "donlbrick" To: , , References: Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 09:52:04 -0500 Cc: rdwismer@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Paddock Info for Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I will definitely try to make the Fall Festival, we should have a good selection of cheese!!!! Don Brick ----- Original Message ----- From: BillDentin@aol.com To: yellow04@tr4racer.com ; fot@autox.team.net Cc: donlbrick@mchsi.com ; rdwismer@mchsi.com Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Paddock Info for Kastner Cup In a message dated 03/29/2013 5:04:37 AM Central Standard Time, yellow04@tr4racer.com writes: I like to be surprised by the cheese selections... PS. Is Don Brick and his cheese coming? Come September, all will be welcomed to Road America and Wisconsin. Hence, lots of tasty cheese selections will surface. Don Brick, ex-Swiss Valley guru and arguably the best driver the Beady Eye tent ever produced, is still up, out and about. We'll sure try to encourage him to come. Regardless...the famous Swiss and awesome Mindoro Bleu will be there for sure. And of course, Wisconsin is also home to John Fridirici (a Grande Cheese honcho) and those tasty Italian cheeses. Not to worry, not to worry! Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 12:15:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7154E428A9 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:15:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C2E40E4D for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 13:09:19 -0600 (MDT) a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:17 a=7KaaxAUCt-sA:10 a=he5PkoDcTKwA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=hl59Nsad7yIA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=VnNF1IyMAAAA:8 a=rT4r6IVsAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=xx4B4SxC2iSfXlLZ6IAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=6CitWK-ZYRsA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:117 Received: from [67.255.16.235] ([67.255.16.235:62539] helo=Shop) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 90/48-02677-3D494515; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 19:07:00 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: "'Bob Kramer'" , "'George Harmuth'" References: <4E7FEA81-F217-4190-82ED-538D106E0D67@austin.rr.com> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 15:08:12 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4r02rJGk7OGcGCRXOWCsJu8z0CaAAE+gsw Content-Language: en-us Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 76, Issue 39 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Well, speaking of JC Whitney......I recall when they had sets of AE Hepolite piston and liner sets for TR3 & 4s for the price of $120. Russ -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Kramer Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 12:43 PM To: George Harmuth Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 76, Issue 39 Quinton Hazell used to be the JC Whitney brand....how far we have (not) come!! Bob Kramer Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2013, at 10:30 AM, George Harmuth wrote: > Another sign of the times. From another Triumph forum I follow, QH > parts are drying up, limited to stock on hand. > Are my street spits going to go hungry? With Chinese parts like > Chinese food, an hour later you need more. > > > Quinton Hazell Cheadle sold, other sites closing > > http://www.tyrepress.com/News/quinton_hazell_cheadle_sold_other_sites_closin g .html > > mike h > > > G. Michael Harmuth > Software Engineer > Automated Material Handling Equipment Engineering Services > 845-894-8088 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 12:16:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B8D4284B for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:16:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from ewout03.consolidated.net (ewout03.consolidated.net [206.123.242.150]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9498740434 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 19:40:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.105] ([72.251.169.90]) by ewout03.consolidated.net ({7f4c37df-33fe-4041-bc97-39fcf9138839}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTPSA id 20130329013721035 (AUTH triumphs@consolidated.net); Fri, 29 Mar 2013 01:37:21 +0000 References: <2057774768-1364439772-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-459266624-@b4.c8.bise6.blackberry> <5154D4C7.6070503@pobox.com> <4AA3AB3F-4D0A-469A-808F-C2E91B45C893@seiri.com> From: Home Consolidated Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 20:37:10 -0500 To: Bob Bownes - Seiri Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Sadly a Sign of the times- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I say "1959 Triumph TR3a" and then start listing the modifications. About 10 minutes into the monologue and the clerk usually rolls his eyes and calls for a manager :-) Gano Sent from my iPad On Mar 28, 2013, at 7:15 PM, Bob Bownes - Seiri wrote: > My favorite answer for the make model year question is 1958 Wartburg. :) > > > On Mar 28, 2013, at 19:39, Larry Young wrote: > >> Not even Napa. I went in and asked for an generic exhaust hanger. After > asking the make, model and year it was for, she said I don't think we carry > those. There are other Napa stores in the area that are better staffed. >> >> I usually try and avoid the "make, model and year" question, but some times > I just have to say customized 1914 Ford or whatever weird thing I'm working on > at the time. I have to admit though that sometimes you get someone that will > take the time to match up what you want with what they have. >> Larry >> >> >> On 3/28/2013 9:07 AM, James Gray wrote: >>> I agree, NAPA are the only real parts stores left. I went to an auto zone > and >>> asked for a set of plugs by name & type. The person at the counter needed > the >>> make & model of the car. I told him it was a '98 corvette. He asked if it > was >>> a v6 or v8. Had I been on my game that day I would have insisted it was a >>> flat12 >>> And sat back to watch his head implode. >>> Jim g. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphs@consolidated.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 12:16:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B269F40046 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:16:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo101.cox.net (fed1rmfepo101.cox.net [68.230.241.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D05640404 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 21:27:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo305 ([68.230.241.173]) by fed1rmfepo101.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130329032529.JHKS882.fed1rmfepo101.cox.net@fed1rmimpo305> for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 23:25:29 -0400 Received: from Vista ([68.110.89.224]) by fed1rmimpo305 with cox id HFRU1l00P4qRjhw01FRU2u; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 23:25:28 -0400 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=P8IzDotRQgkA:10 a=Pyq9K9CWowscuQLKlpiwfMBGOR0=:19 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=bQLy1OOyAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=1Wx_7YToTtXIqs-SzrMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=NykwidgwL7YA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=j_g7AiuRXQlGE1Hi:21 a=xPQekK0q45LJ4E06:21 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: , , "'Triumph Friends of'" References: <47E14593-26EE-413A-B8E3-5D8EFDC9263B@yahoo.com><62C30BFC-A9D4-4BC4-A019-F2F6DAD44E10@yahoo.com> <006501ce2c1a$460445a0$d20cd0e0$@net> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 20:25:47 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac4sGbkB5GbPjLsJRDK633Zi7kpHxgAAG2UwAASwPTA= Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I remember those as well in my West Texas Home town. Two stations that sat next to each other were always getting into those gas wars. I long for those years when you could drive around for a week on a buck's worth of gas. Joe C. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of RACER BUD Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 6:11 PM To: Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com; 'Triumph Friends of' Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Very cool!...I remember gas wars in Reno when it got down to 5 cents..about 1965 RB -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 6:07 PM To: Triumph Friends of Subject: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear This brings back memories of the smell of grease, when you pulled in to the station! >> >> >> http://hipspics.freewebspace.com/gas/gas.html _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 12:16:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4030E428A8 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:16:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 022BD40EDA for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:16:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.13]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 26FCA380000A6; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:14:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtc003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtc003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.9]) by mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 47BB9E000082; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:14:30 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:14:30 -0400 (EDT) To: yellow04@tr4racer.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364566471; bh=+4Y1D44oLhcNYo4LvZrl46Eq2SPPXl6iNM0hI3UBy8c=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Z26blNLhb6DbSA3gu40N8laE61YlUDMIs8T2eDk6CR7aGuFuMUWSvy25zT+5gILDH 4PWn8XyDFylxxqjoiIgu8CEdnDMyJYa2EZjPQwZbsBiE/Z3QlkK0i9KWsNGT1E2sMd nhRGtgocFi+JpShmqDY1eKFVdZdqDBvul8BLEkTM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290d5155a1c63b4f Cc: donlbrick@mchsi.com, rdwismer@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Paddock Info for Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 03/29/2013 5:04:37 AM Central Standard Time, yellow04@tr4racer.com writes: > I like to be surprised by the cheese selections... > > PS. Is Don Brick and his cheese coming? > Come September, all will be welcomed to Road America and Wisconsin. Hence, lots of tasty cheese selections will surface. Don Brick, ex-Swiss Valley guru and arguably the best driver the Beady Eye tent ever produced, is still up, out and about. We'll sure try to encourage him to come. Regardless...the famous Swiss and awesome Mindoro Bleu will be there for sure. And of course, Wisconsin is also home to John Fridirici (a Grande Cheese honcho) and those tasty Italian cheeses. Not to worry, not to worry! Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 12:17:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F221A42537 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:17:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7508403B2 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:34:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.73]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id C5D291C000069; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:32:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtc003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtc003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.9]) by mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 85180E00008C; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:32:30 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:32:30 -0400 (EDT) To: william.tobin31@verizon.net, spitlist@cox.net, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364567550; bh=DBU5wQVtw4PQ54bXvBm3lFBo35UOTK2LtGobMtF3nSU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wEAogwaebP82FxQtMFCAka4BrN9iT/DL25tkGipfKt22KAJh30SHsS/Cr9BhOoZ12 5Ul5SHcdIZW1I+SG7mcaBVC83Ac/fhk+fwqQPoe4e9SYSTpac5uAx4I8Be8EqU5tIP gh+vNmrEP0L9Tio1gzQ0qheXBjFYKMxgPqlR3vtQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29495155a5fe5699 Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 03/29/2013 5:41:59 AM Central Standard Time, william.tobin31@verizon.net writes: > In a way I long for those days too. Then I remember that the prevailing > wage > for teens was $1.00 an hour! > When I was a teen in the mid 60's gas was 27.9 for years. > Bill... You're just a kid. I've got you by at least ten years. I remember taking my Shirley out on a date, and stopping for a bucks worth of regular for my 1951 Ford. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 12:17:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 394DA428F6 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:17:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta41.charter.net (mta41.charter.net [216.33.127.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9074140046 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 09:09:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130329150650.GZXG10143.mta41.charter.net@imp09>; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:06:50 -0400 Received: from wt03 ([209.225.8.43]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id HT6q1l00Q0vicD505T6qt0; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:06:50 -0400 a=9okyDgZqp55Pkq91s0rumA==:17 a=GcBDC4MYXWAA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=TiNhTh2SklMA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=CqzeHTm8FfkA:10 a=KwXVfUvKAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=YQVhlsHo6tDeSabhKtEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=3vvlvS2op8MA:10 a=sLsWDsoJ2xYA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=Vr_IUXYFM6TdiOMl:21 a=xHXdXG5LeOBNZ3TO:21 a=9okyDgZqp55Pkq91s0rumA==:117 Received: from [71.10.64.126] by enhanced.charter.net with HTTP; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:06:50 -0400 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:06:50 -0400 (EDT) From: jkhagen@charter.net To: Bud R User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: Friends of triumph , Jeff Speer Subject: Re: [Fot] Praise for Hoosier Racing Tire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hoosier-Good and Bad--Was losing "small"!! amounts of air --could not find--later--found right out of the "sidewall" through the letters.--Hoosier replaced. John Hagen On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Bud R wrote: > I've always been willing to complain when venders disappoint or don't > provide products as advertised so I'm glad to be able to heap some > praise for an outstanding vender. > > I want to commend the Corporate Office at Hoosier Racing Tire, and > Jeff Speer in particular, for handling an issue that had come up with > the Hoosier tires on my Spitfire. > > Thanks also to Jim Gray for recommending that I call Hoosier about the > air pressure loss I kept having. He said that Hoosier was a company > that stands behind their tires and he could not have been more right. > It is obvious why Hoosier tires are so respected and used. They focus > on customer service and satisfaction. > > Jeff Speer was a pleasure to work with and he worked hard with his > people at Hoosier Racing Tire to make things right. Here's his contact > info. if you have tire needs. > > > Jeffrey A. Speer > Product Manager > > > 65465 US Hwy 31 > Lakeville, IN 46536 > www.hoosiertire.com > Phone: 574-784-3152 > Fax: 574-784-2385 > > > Bud Rolofson > > Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) > 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle > 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 12:18:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE00042847 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:18:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta41.charter.net (mta41.charter.net [216.33.127.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FB4403A0 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 09:15:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130329151327.HDXH10143.mta41.charter.net@imp09>; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:13:27 -0400 Received: from wt03 ([209.225.8.43]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id HTDT1l00P0vicD505TDTh3; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:13:27 -0400 a=9okyDgZqp55Pkq91s0rumA==:17 a=GcBDC4MYXWAA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=he5PkoDcTKwA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=hl59Nsad7yIA:10 a=VnNF1IyMAAAA:8 a=rT4r6IVsAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=DyMgSWZyTC8Hl-Qsdr8A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=6CitWK-ZYRsA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=9okyDgZqp55Pkq91s0rumA==:117 Received: from [71.10.64.126] by enhanced.charter.net with HTTP; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:13:27 -0400 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:13:27 -0400 (EDT) From: jkhagen@charter.net To: Bob Kramer User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: fot@autox.team.net, George Harmuth Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 76, Issue 39 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net QH-Europe-was owned by Dana Corp a 15 Billion dollar company--went broke-I should know. John Hagen On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Bob Kramer wrote: > Quinton Hazell used to be the JC Whitney brand....how far we have > (not) > come!! > > Bob Kramer > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 28, 2013, at 10:30 AM, George Harmuth > wrote: > >> Another sign of the times. From another Triumph forum I follow, QH >> parts >> are drying up, limited to stock on hand. >> Are my street spits going to go hungry? With Chinese parts like >> Chinese >> food, an hour later you need more. >> >> >> Quinton Hazell Cheadle sold, other sites closing >> >> > > http://www.tyrepress.com/News/quinton_hazell_cheadle_sold_other_sites_closing > .html >> >> mike h >> >> >> G. Michael Harmuth >> Software Engineer >> Automated Material Handling Equipment Engineering Services >> 845-894-8088 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 13:40:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2377B4255C for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 13:40:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085CD4009A for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 13:38:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.73]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 15C811C00010F; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:35:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtc003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtc003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.9]) by mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D1427E000081; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:35:39 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:35:39 -0400 (EDT) To: kaskastner@gmail.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364585740; bh=HYw26ORxoXgrJ5bUP8CEwQ/JYjmRGM8pRNu+fclYOLU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JMnTjfF2nSasVzB8z65Rg+DM02oFX2dFwSVG4bTjv6T4SqPXgVyL3w0EUf92P8/z/ HK1p91oebGXzIVy6y+i64M6ALytBDMtWVIgmAWJpJDPOdxPi89XAIrT4zKoe5kMYG/ qLMdyQRqxeJxAwHqOCWfZcM+1PdQRmkh8UD2DvUg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29495155ed0b5d53 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 03/29/2013 12:28:21 PM Central Standard Time, kaskastner@gmail.com writes: > Remember also that the US was paying the arabs $5 buck for a barrel of > oil, not $91. (although I guess the amount are the same with the inflation) > Kas... Interesting observation, and if my high school 'ratio' math still works, if it was .299 a gallon for gas when oil was $5.00 a barrel, shouldn't we expect to pay $5.442 now? I just filled my tank for $3.799 a gallon. All things being relative...maybe we should not be complaining. Bill (Damdinger) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 15:11:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5154042580 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:11:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dfn.com (mail.dfn.com [74.116.128.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F8F403CF for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:10:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] [199.83.117.102] by dfn.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-11.5) id 58180006b95342c1; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:07:38 -0600 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:07:41 -0600 From: Michael Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 To: BillDentin@aol.com References: <163bf.14006f3c.3e87470b@aol.com> Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 3/29/2013 1:35 PM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 03/29/2013 12:28:21 PM Central Standard Time, > kaskastner@gmail.com writes: > > >> Remember also that the US was paying the arabs $5 buck for a barrel of >> oil, not $91. (although I guess the amount are the same with the inflation) >> > Kas... > > Interesting observation, and if my high school 'ratio' math still works, if > it was .299 a gallon for gas when oil was $5.00 a barrel, shouldn't we > expect to pay $5.442 now? I just filled my tank for $3.799 a gallon. All > things being relative...maybe we should not be complaining. > > The problem is, as usual, more complicated than that. First, if one is looking for a standard of measurement based on inflation and the cost of a barrel of oil, then one has to exclude changes in federal, state and local taxes. Then one has to get the actual numbers more or less in line with the reality of the time frame, and then do some data smoothing to eliminate the peaks created by temporary shortages (the 1973 and 1978 embargoes and withheld shipments, for example) and oil prices affected by predatory speculation (such as the $147/bbl spike recently). You get something like this: http://inflationdata.com/Inflation/Inflation_Rate/Gasoline_Inflation.asp If we're talking about prices being affected in large part by Saudi Arabia, it's important to get the numbers in the timeline correct, because the establishment of OPEC price controls after 1973 changed the pricing schedules considerably. Saudi oil was routinely purchased by the refiners for a wellhead price before shipping of $1.50/bbl, until the 1973 embargo. Within six weeks of the beginning of the partial embargo by SA, that price was $6/bbl, and within four months, was $10/bbl. That alone is a 660% increase in the crude price in less than half a year. At the beginning of the embargo, gas prices jumped from a nominal $.30/gal to $.60/gal, and stabilized in the low .50s/gal until the 1978 oil shock, where the price increased to ~ $2.25, adjusted for inflation. Finally, one needs to look at crack differentials (price of all refined products combined per bbl of feedstock vs. crude oil feedstock price per bbl), which have been rising and, as well, understand that the NYMEX and London spot prices are more an indication of crude price trends in the market, rather than an actual current price paid by the majors, all of which tend to lock in production rates and prices for extended periods at prices lower than the spot market. Going by crack differentials, the gross profits of the majors and inflation-adjusted pricing, gas prices are currently quite a bit higher than the historical average. Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 15:58:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CFE240042 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:58:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s2.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s2.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E91040042 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:57:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W64 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s2.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:55:24 -0700 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:55:23 -0400 FILETIME=[1DE71D50:01CE2CC8] Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Shirt/Driver Update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I finally got caught up with entering all the orders this week. As of today there are 58 shirts on order and 46 drivers planning on competing at Road America. I'm sure that number will increase as there are some regulars that I don't see on the list yet. If you sent me a shirt order or let me know you are planning on driving at the event you should have received back an acknowledgement email from me. Some of you who emailed me still owe me info. Please take care of that so I don't loose track. Still PLENTY of time to order event shirts and have your name added to the back of them. See you in September. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 17:06:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F6EF42544 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:06:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (fed1rmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A6F640402 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:06:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo210 ([68.230.241.161]) by fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130329230347.NMZW7388.fed1rmfepo103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo210> for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 19:03:47 -0400 Received: from Vista ([68.110.89.224]) by fed1rmimpo210 with cox id Hb3m1l00D4qRjhw01b3mXd; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 19:03:46 -0400 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=P8IzDotRQgkA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=obeQraXA1RjvT_aMhAEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: References: <001201ce2cb1$485d7140$d91853c0$@rr.com> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:04:09 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac4sqVW/nRjalyklRbefZyDciPwhpgAB3LPgAAfB4aA= Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net And they also would fix flats for a buck. Joe c. -----Original Message----- From: Spitfire Racing [mailto:Spitfire_Racing@twcny.rr.com] Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 12:12 PM To: BillDentin@aol.com; william.tobin31@verizon.net; spitlist@cox.net; fot@autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Yep, and for that dollar they used to come out, put it in the tank, check the oil and clean the windshield......... oh, and smile while they did it. Long gone as is twenty some cent a gallon gas. I remember Sunoco 260 at .32 @ gallon. It was the real item, lead, octane and no methanol and the sporty cars thrived on it.......yep, long gone! Russ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 17:29:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992C242540 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:29:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B26340402 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:26:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239AFA073A for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:26:15 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:26:15 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16 To: Friends of Triumph References: Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Shirt/Driver Update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I will certainly be ordering a shirt. Maybe before I die I'll actually get it together and have my name on the shirt. Lovely spring weather here in Salt Lake, I want to drive about in a Triumph! mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 18:46:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C56424C5 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 18:46:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D09AE40411 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 18:44:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC379A073A for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 18:44:41 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 18:44:41 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Hitchin' a ride Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net So the message about the T shirts for this year's event got me thinking. I was planning to fly back to Wisconsin for the event, but are there any west coast folks who plan to travel through Salt Lake on I 80 that might have room for a lazy, good for nothing freeloader to tag along? I recall setting up something like this for the Portland, Oregon event and then getting a bad case of shingles right before it. Fun. Anyway, it is still a few months out, just something to consider. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 30 12:23:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 483714041E for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:23:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f45.google.com (mail-la0-f45.google.com [209.85.215.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFED740397 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:30:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f45.google.com with SMTP id er20so724017lab.4 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:28:20 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=RxV+JZ2VSX1QivVCyhO5JRlRJb1Z+OpH+oy9+ntDFmA=; b=bgZiEHOfdts3xUW9aiIhZKTHWnTg5uTuxFXHpWFyqmb4J60OJQWFpnoMsRGqHDrey1 118pz//iku+W2UxC4OImwd3iM6ujyp1d3qzZ7Ne+cYCHpWm5i/mINBRPL3R1apipNN4N ebRsO7bWKSfA846WvsnPb3JjX44LAnriemPRS0zpQgqKMpvMAhT3syNV0GrLf4RIdJZB GdtT4EXDC8OxZtBW1jsQSQEXiDTzVhFwHWVnR4lbX74x4KRr7gkIvGUFlgKyzY0+KtTS QRp4Ze5UOrxGy2yBe3/nZ0gkZ6M0VSs9pWm5HgY9mnKBoeG4wxoCPLzvEQAMu0PNmNn4 AcYw== Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.33.48 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:27:40 -0700 (PDT) References: From: Kas Kastner Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:27:40 -0700 To: BillDentin Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Remember also that the US was paying the arabs $5 buck for a barrel of oil, not $91. (although I guess the amount are the same with the inflation) *Never be beaten by equipment.* On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 7:32 AM, wrote: > In a message dated 03/29/2013 5:41:59 AM Central Standard Time, > william.tobin31@verizon.net writes: > > > > In a way I long for those days too. Then I remember that the prevailing > > wage > > for teens was $1.00 an hour! > > When I was a teen in the mid 60's gas was 27.9 for years. > > > > Bill... > > You're just a kid. I've got you by at least ten years. I remember taking > my Shirley out on a date, and stopping for a bucks worth of regular for my > 1951 Ford. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 30 12:23:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B906740E01 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:23:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B1AA40334 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 13:13:07 -0600 (MDT) a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:17 a=7KaaxAUCt-sA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=P8IzDotRQgkA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=J_qsM5Jpx06SfoDmG-EA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=GnMEISLh6JRH6pSStlFk9A==:117 Received: from [67.255.16.235] ([67.255.16.235:50269] helo=Shop) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 88/EF-01418-237E5515; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 19:10:42 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: , , , References: Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:11:57 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4sqVW/nRjalyklRbefZyDciPwhpgAB3LPg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yep, and for that dollar they used to come out, put it in the tank, check the oil and clean the windshield......... oh, and smile while they did it. Long gone as is twenty some cent a gallon gas. I remember Sunoco 260 at .32 @ gallon. It was the real item, lead, octane and no methanol and the sporty cars thrived on it.......yep, long gone! Russ -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BillDentin@aol.com Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 10:33 AM To: william.tobin31@verizon.net; spitlist@cox.net; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear In a message dated 03/29/2013 5:41:59 AM Central Standard Time, william.tobin31@verizon.net writes: > In a way I long for those days too. Then I remember that the prevailing > wage > for teens was $1.00 an hour! > When I was a teen in the mid 60's gas was 27.9 for years. > Bill... You're just a kid. I've got you by at least ten years. I remember taking my Shirley out on a date, and stopping for a bucks worth of regular for my 1951 Ford. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 30 12:23:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242844040E for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:23:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm32-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm32-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.136]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E22D403A6 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:23:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.140] by nm32.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2013 20:20:48 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.241] by tm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2013 20:20:48 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1050.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Mar 2013 20:20:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 81630 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Mar 2013 20:20:48 -0000 s=s1024; t=1364588448; bh=kGaJG/kEYJHOkCiWHmrlivs7UBNuGTnIGUK9VVMlNHE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TbRAXvmh3X8HDFUwaijl+oH1BGONLJ3Lm09F3ixoATYRAqE2xOcCSaY+2Gf4fMWmvQnkR5WmciPKamH9jv0F65SSj8PuZGYvx4PJ/JrMyj9HmOoL3uzugKutoFMiCH/PPMGSPmd1ZqJ8deZeKDikTMyodVROkfSO83lLq6pcKF8= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yD4M/40oHVmOpJ/ml2ynTv4dF6ROVkZN2cEE7Gg2PpK1YrOwrIVMgMO48icCwd8rOhRF1adKAOVEL+h+n7yZK5fAkplVrqa1rL4yg9DrdnXPMRNLYTAMyoEMKFgH/HLDzymSIJl5rfyfGatnZ5Fx5TrZEgHDpBSsv1hk7y6gDqQ=; RCo5p0GB6qRCiv.DSGAxz Received: from [75.105.247.167] by web162505.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 13:20:48 PDT wqAgwqAgwqBXaGVuIEkgd2FzIDE2IEkgd29ya2VkIGluIHRoZSBsb2NhbCBjYW5uaW5nIGZhY3RvcnkgY2FubmluZyBwZWFzLiBJIHdvcmtlZCAxMDAKwqBob3VycyBhIHdlZWsgYW5kIGNsZWFyZWQgJDEwMC4gV293IEkgd2FzIHJpY2guCgoKwqAgwqAgwqBKb2huCsKgCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KIEZyb206ICJCaWxsRGVudGluQGFvbC5jb20iIDxCaWxsRGVudGluQGFvbC5jb20.ClRvOiB3aWxsaWFtLnRvYmluMzFAdmVyaXpvbi5uZXQ7IHNwaXRsaXN0QGNveC5uZXQ7IGYBMAEBAQE- References: Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 13:20:48 -0700 (PDT) From: John Wagner To: "BillDentin@aol.com" , "william.tobin31@verizon.net" , "spitlist@cox.net" , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net When I was 16 I worked in the local canning factory canning peas. I worked 100 hours a week and cleared $100. Wow I was rich. John ________________________________ From: "BillDentin@aol.com" To: william.tobin31@verizon.net; spitlist@cox.net; fot@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear In a message dated 03/29/2013 5:41:59 AM Central Standard Time, william.tobin31@verizon.net writes: > In a way I long for those days too. Then I remember that the prevailing > wage > for teens was $1.00 an hour! > When I was a teen in the mid 60's gas was 27.9 for years. > Bill... You're just a kid. I've got you by at least ten years. I remember taking my Shirley out on a date, and stopping for a bucks worth of regular for my 1951 Ford. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/j.wags63@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 30 12:24:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FC8740415 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:24:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail202c2.megamailservers.com (mail202c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B70B640356 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:07:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.247.137.230] (86.sub-174-228-70.myvzw.com [174.228.70.86]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail202c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r2TM4eV1023685 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 29 Mar 2013 18:04:43 -0400 References: <163bf.14006f3c.3e87470b@aol.com> <5156029D.5000601@dfn.com> From: John Hasty Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 18:04:40 -0400 To: Michael Porter a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=QDdmSgAldzbfh/AZz7Qx4A==:17 a=NTgSIB6fAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=EEUed45fAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=UN0R0hu_KJX01QIqju8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=I79HZNmoWdQA:10 a=lqA02NAGceIA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=QDdmSgAldzbfh/AZz7Qx4A==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Don't forget what Obama and his fellow travelers are doing to our country, we'll be lucky if any of us can afford gas at all if they continue down the road to bankruptcy. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 29, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Michael Porter wrote: > On 3/29/2013 1:35 PM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: >> In a message dated 03/29/2013 12:28:21 PM Central Standard Time, >> kaskastner@gmail.com writes: >> >> >>> Remember also that the US was paying the arabs $5 buck for a barrel of >>> oil, not $91. (although I guess the amount are the same with the inflation) >>> >> Kas... >> >> Interesting observation, and if my high school 'ratio' math still works, if >> it was .299 a gallon for gas when oil was $5.00 a barrel, shouldn't we >> expect to pay $5.442 now? I just filled my tank for $3.799 a gallon. All >> things being relative...maybe we should not be complaining. >> >> > > The problem is, as usual, more complicated than that. First, if one is looking for a standard of measurement based on inflation and the cost of a barrel of oil, then one has to exclude changes in federal, state and local taxes. Then one has to get the actual numbers more or less in line with the reality of the time frame, and then do some data smoothing to eliminate the peaks created by temporary shortages (the 1973 and 1978 embargoes and withheld shipments, for example) and oil prices affected by predatory speculation (such as the $147/bbl spike recently). You get something like this: > > http://inflationdata.com/Inflation/Inflation_Rate/Gasoline_Inflation.asp > > If we're talking about prices being affected in large part by Saudi Arabia, it's important to get the numbers in the timeline correct, because the establishment of OPEC price controls after 1973 changed the pricing schedules considerably. Saudi oil was routinely purchased by the refiners for a wellhead price before shipping of $1.50/bbl, until the 1973 embargo. Within six weeks of the beginning of the partial embargo by SA, that price was $6/bbl, and within four months, was $10/bbl. That alone is a 660% increase in the crude price in less than half a year. At the beginning of the embargo, gas prices jumped from a nominal $.30/gal to $.60/gal, and stabilized in the low .50s/gal until the 1978 oil shock, where the price increased to ~ $2.25, adjusted for inflation. > > Finally, one needs to look at crack differentials (price of all refined products combined per bbl of feedstock vs. crude oil feedstock price per bbl), which have been rising and, as well, understand that the NYMEX and London spot prices are more an indication of crude price trends in the market, rather than an actual current price paid by the majors, all of which tend to lock in production rates and prices for extended periods at prices lower than the spot market. Going by crack differentials, the gross profits of the majors and inflation-adjusted pricing, gas prices are currently quite a bit higher than the historical average. > > > Cheers. > > -- > > > Michael Porter > Roswell, NM > > > Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 30 12:24:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91E3428EA for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:24:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02983403FE for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 20:34:25 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=eiJRm6rqGn8EJvXxHSdv4Q==:17 a=IYbAqjljJL4A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=mLhyhlmH2BsA:10 a=fmDjJsrZAAAA:8 a=MJIo3LPEAAAA:8 a=1GHFKC6CAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=vbsw-oo3CtKnuw8M6N8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=YK30HMD7P3IA:10 a=IeVFYImMg6QA:10 a=e6VHXRHJN54A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=eiJRm6rqGn8EJvXxHSdv4Q==:117 Received: from [70.112.152.241] ([70.112.152.241:56463] helo=[192.168.2.7]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 49/2C-25887-E9E46515; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 02:31:59 +0000 References: <20130328.203432.14315.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com> From: Bob Kramer Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 21:31:56 -0500 To: Joe Boruch Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" , "tomstrange5@gmail.com" Subject: Re: [Fot] Head Gasket Coating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net There used to be a Hylomar spray that went on kind of fluffy. I liked it but the cans clogged up the nozzles and/or the cans didn't work at all so they took it off the market. If it is anything like that I'd try it. Bob Kramer Sent from my iPhone On Mar 29, 2013, at 12:34 AM, "Joe Boruch" wrote: > I have never sprayed this particular type of product, so I don't know if it > sprays out like spray paint or undercoating. If like spray paint, then should > be able to get an even coat. Joe > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: "Barr, Scott" > To: 'Joe Boruch' > Cc: 'tom strange' > Subject: RE: [Fot] Head Gasket Coating > Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 13:26:26 +0000 > > Would you be able to apply this evenly enough to seal? > > I wonder whether this might be a nice adjunct to a copper gasket where used to > lower the compression ratio or clear piston pop-up, but where the copper > gasket isn't sealing well. > > Scott B. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of Joe Boruch > Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 7:16 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Head Gasket Coating > > I have been debating the merits of coating a steel shim head gasket with a > Fluoroelastomer (Viton) coating. Cometic gaskets are Viton coated. There are > Fluoroelastomer coatings available in aerosol cans. Have any of you tried > anything like this? Joe(B) > ____________________________________________________________ > OVERSTOCK ipads: $30.93 > Get 32GB Apple iPad for as low as $30.93. Limit 1.Day. Grab yours Now! > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com > ____________________________________________________________ > How to Sleep Like a Rock > Obey this one natural trick to fall asleep and stay asleep all night. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 30 12:33:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7930542278 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:33:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-gh0-f170.google.com (mail-gh0-f170.google.com [209.85.160.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D055403F8 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:30:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-gh0-f170.google.com with SMTP id z2so176877ghb.15 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:28:17 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=NnKTAD1bh7q/xWog0pUzEcbX9LSFXjEADgB85XNipNY=; b=I+NyAPsjr6kDXhVqLiBdWY8OMO84SbMGXkiB2w5BxEPtgG4+UGYkfMABN5hSimRsGX JqTvLWy9ccJkHTcVyPsbjyvwr7rd8IWfzPwYMQRM0R1WYgYFtD9dyiNlO2kc4Npf0ATh Kb51Rzm+sNaynAKnnKIj315hBxTeV0i5/itKsxn6O/qpzb+y8k+3n+45yae1A6ZleH3V d9pResuNt9tRDYUiyt/h/3Yg2haWlX+JTO0uGzMAHouRwK/AL/q5JdCMRPJQJvu+ozi3 Qf9p3rQsC9grkBXbEbJaVDS24aG6LRmWsl7nxvtBT9d+EL213RnCkt8S5Bvl3NMaJETJ VG7g== x48mr4125409yhh.180.1364668097294; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:28:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o64sm11497451yhd.16.2013.03.30.11.28.15 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:28:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 13:28:12 -0500 References: <163bf.14006f3c.3e87470b@aol.com> <5156029D.5000601@dfn.com> <607A04D6-C8FC-454C-8191-046120018014@gdhs.com> To: FOT of Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Can we switch to religion now? Alonzo Quijada On Mar 29, 2013, at 5:04 PM, John Hasty wrote: > Don't forget what Obama and his fellow travelers are doing to our country, > we'll be lucky if any of us can afford gas at all if they continue down the > road to bankruptcy. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 30 13:49:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FE3403F9 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 13:49:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (fed1rmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E252C403F6 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 13:46:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo209 ([68.230.241.160]) by fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130330194333.RWZD7388.fed1rmfepo103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo209> for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 15:43:33 -0400 Received: from Vista ([68.110.89.224]) by fed1rmimpo209 with cox id HvjY1l00J4qRjhw01vjY3c; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 15:43:32 -0400 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=P8IzDotRQgkA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=Mw2Y0fOIzc0SdPKRCskA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: "'FOT of'" References: <163bf.14006f3c.3e87470b@aol.com> <5156029D.5000601@dfn.com><607A04D6-C8FC-454C-8191-046120018014@gdhs.com> <0CCD4E13-F7E6-4796-ADA2-821153F27CE1@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:43:59 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac4tdM2mtksFvj8SQcmFEmY7ntqQ6AACfrQQ Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Absolutely! I am sick and tired of hearing from a bunch of racist Obama haters. How quickly we forget what your beloved W did to our country! -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Duncan Charlton Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 11:28 AM To: FOT of Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Can we switch to religion now? Alonzo Quijada On Mar 29, 2013, at 5:04 PM, John Hasty wrote: > Don't forget what Obama and his fellow travelers are doing to our country, > we'll be lucky if any of us can afford gas at all if they continue down the > road to bankruptcy. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 30 14:21:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA4694041D for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 14:21:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11388403F6 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 14:21:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id EF7751C00004C; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 16:18:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-muc002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-muc002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.193.197]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 3CBAEE000086; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 16:18:44 -0400 (EDT) References: <163bf.14006f3c.3e87470b@aol.com> <5156029D.5000601@dfn.com> <607A04D6-C8FC-454C-8191-046120018014@gdhs.com> <0CCD4E13-F7E6-4796-ADA2-821153F27CE1@gmail.com> To: duncan.charlton54@gmail.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m290.sysops.aol.com (64.12.152.48) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 30 Mar 2013 16:18:43 -0400 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 16:18:43 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364674724; bh=C2nq93GJhC90ja9tR8nJPI36FXdeOEPFOrjnCO0KEAE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=P1OxMJqUXiU5X7/e/YbNlXXaP2Km1vwzg3udYpT6z0rZt7Z7oSH1OJpMXDOv8Fs9s 4GtOCLL2xDWifMX1/miV89/XcBgQ7kdXO366PmxrtS5rONFR6FQxDDtCwaMkV/X63H A4laGcMqsgk30GrRgJd39wZLlf8Ix2IzftmNM2Zg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c7515748a448bb Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ya! How about that new Pope?! Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton To: FOT of Sent: Sat, Mar 30, 2013 1:31 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Can we switch to religion now? Alonzo Quijada On Mar 29, 2013, at 5:04 PM, John Hasty wrote: > Don't forget what Obama and his fellow travelers are doing to our country, > we'll be lucky if any of us can afford gas at all if they continue down the > road to bankruptcy. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 30 14:27:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4FA442544 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 14:27:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com (imr-db01.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC43C403F6 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 14:27:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id DEFAD380000AA for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 16:24:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-muc002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-muc002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.193.197]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 2A4A6E000089 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 16:24:47 -0400 (EDT) References: To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-m290.sysops.aol.com (64.12.152.48) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 30 Mar 2013 16:24:46 -0400 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 16:24:47 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364675087; bh=bxdh0flfd2UFdEOuEkBEtsCsWt+G9QaZxtKTEQrZja4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OZj4eQtnE6a7LaT6UJ8BjVegbBIpOQd72LyNgk0d+kYsfhgqfG8bWTBn+jC/3ACiX zzr4gnzvTI294slkIqrLAmhnsEU+jgvRQCctj9sDJBkEsPOvhnX8TnzwpeJmyNMb2A J+9BhjxJjqHTC2sXNHRUejJf/n1YzNn9UnkucRaU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294851574a0f3de0 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Files in contention at Brands Hatch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Keith File's son is entering his third year in the Clio Series and is a frequent pole sitter. Keith, AND COMPANY have their tickets and Osthoff reservations for the KCUP. How about that for a subject change......? Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Josh Files Press Office To: n197tr4@cs.com Sent: Sat, Mar 30, 2013 2:44 pm Subject: Files in contention at Brands Hatch Is this email not displaying correctly? View it in your browser. Files in contention at Brands Hatch Team Pyrobs Josh Files made a positive start to his 2013 Renault UK Clio Cup campaign in qualifying today (Saturday, 30th March), ahead of Rounds 1 & 2 of the championship at Brands Hatch. The Vocalink backed driver, a renowned front-runner in Britainbs premier one-make saloon car championship, secured sixth position for Round 1 with a fastest lap time of 52.681 seconds, followed by a third fastest lap time of 52.701 seconds, for his second encounter at the 1.22 mile circuit situated in Kent. Speaking of his qualifying achievement, Files remains confident that he can make a strong start in the series that has propelled the likes of Tom Onslow-Cole, Dave Newsham and Aron Smith to the BTCC. bIbm feeling good about how the session went,b said Files. bI think that I drove well overall, but itbs just so close when we come and race here due to the lap being so short.b bMy aim for tomorrow is to put myself in contention for a podium finish in the first race, and really push for the win in the second. The car feels great and Ibm sure thatbs achievable.b The opening round of the 2013 Renault UK Clio Cup will get underway tomorrow (Sunday, 31st March), at 10.20, with Round 2 at 15.35. The second of the two races will be screened live on ITV4, ITV4 HD and can be streamed live at www.itv.com/btcc Follow Josh Files on: www.joshfiles.co.uk @JoshFiles Facebook.com/joshfilesracing For more information, please contact William Fewkes at BAM Motorsport Promotions: Tel: +44 (0)1442 891 500 Email: wfewkes@bam-promo.com Web: www.bam-promo.com follow on Twitter | friend on Facebook | forward to a friend Copyright B) 2013 BAM Motorsports Group, All rights reserved. From Josh Files PR Database Our mailing address is: BAM Motorsports Group 8 Akeman Street Tring, Eng HP23 6AA United Kingdom Add us to your address book unsubscribe from this list | update subscription preferences _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 30 14:34:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED4D40E9C for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 14:34:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFFF9403F6 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 14:30:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id CCD321C0000B2; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 16:27:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dnd005a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dnd005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.182.209]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 98379E00008C; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 16:27:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Gt6steve@aol.com Full-name: Gt6steve Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 16:27:49 -0400 (EDT) To: spitlist@cox.net, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364675269; bh=XiIkVAGb78lk40Zfil+4h2a811IGs1lzS3SPLwXGp4o=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ACh+FEVJ4bn2ACXcZZjpRBjNvKk3IB896RQlRS50obgyLNR2nO6RPCrvT/d/oywxt 5Rd0rnGtn3Bf3IiNoHZqXZWVRBIRrp+OwA2CxqJE3gUGCREk0kPZMNyeko4h10wWHz 121j1FuUb2OjPlHwaPSTJu9nqUpgPM/N0N86zxzE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb51574ac553c9 Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net How sick am I of hearing the epithet "racist" thrown at anybody that doesn't support Obummer. I remember when castigating Bush was "the highest form of patriotism". In a message dated 3/30/2013 12:46:50 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, spitlist@cox.net writes: Absolutely! I am sick and tired of hearing from a bunch of racist Obama haters. How quickly we forget what your beloved W did to our country! -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Duncan Charlton Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 11:28 AM To: FOT of Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Can we switch to religion now? Alonzo Quijada On Mar 29, 2013, at 5:04 PM, John Hasty wrote: > Don't forget what Obama and his fellow travelers are doing to our country, > we'll be lucky if any of us can afford gas at all if they continue down the > road to bankruptcy. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A50E5403F8 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 14:39:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A76C403F2 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 14:39:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0384A073A for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 14:39:00 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 14:39:00 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Now kids... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Behave yourselves, before I do something drastic like double your free subscription prices! mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 30 14:43:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4A6403F9 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 14:43:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f52.google.com (mail-pb0-f52.google.com [209.85.160.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA807403F1 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 14:43:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pb0-f52.google.com with SMTP id ma3so664129pbc.25 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 13:40:40 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=/eOWCEdOxxm7XgjPFrEkydTnwc7xXtVuY/oTUAVlPQU=; b=sEIlzUobN5eGptuN63vss0ETvV1ETNOXJfMN8rV6We4Y6cdohUrRNB5eH6q4RITMLW +6euHoXWcZiQdM8is3GVB3xgYZmnB/BUSKuYVZ4x3Q6nZzI9BK3pEU9MwuXtEOJkkdS0 SrhSqxVF/X2D6sqlEO52ssLJ0AyZakYJZVXR22ePcuqIHjL3J5vmTLlwJgUts9ErsSEZ 9bCoKZGx5+2Mr5bSlI/lb/NF219EWWRZ/VyYmjWkVWDeViJDf/ky6V7ykT473xidrYeg gKMmQHwkbVBppcanSYq7DDSElHeeRwVVK/Cg8hbb+TVyH5n/tQEwg5hzXf4ZXiFMq1r/ YF/A== vk4mr11171967pab.21.1364676039863; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 13:40:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.44] (udp235334uds.hawaiiantel.net. [72.234.40.38]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z1sm7622399pbw.19.2013.03.30.13.40.37 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 30 Mar 2013 13:40:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Babcock Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 10:40:35 -1000 References: <8CFFB9BC14D2E01-1D90-39818@webmail-m290.sysops.aol.com> To: Joe Alexander Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Files in contention at Brands Hatch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Looks like I'm coming to the KCUP with Peyote. I guess I better make a reserevation at the Osthoff. I committed to the FOT race some time ago with Tony Garmey though there was a chance I wouldn't be able to come. But it's looking good. On Mar 30, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Keith File's son is entering his third year in the Clio Series and is a > frequent pole sitter. > > Keith, AND COMPANY have their tickets and Osthoff reservations for the KCUP. > > How about that for a subject change......? > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Josh Files Press Office > To: n197tr4@cs.com > Sent: Sat, Mar 30, 2013 2:44 pm > Subject: Files in contention at Brands Hatch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is this email not displaying > correctly? > View it in your browser. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Files in contention at Brands Hatch > Team Pyrobs Josh Files made a positive start to his 2013 Renault UK Clio > Cup campaign in qualifying today (Saturday, 30th March), ahead of Rounds 1 & 2 > of the championship at Brands Hatch. > > The Vocalink backed driver, a renowned front-runner in Britainbs premier > one-make saloon car championship, secured sixth position for Round 1 with a > fastest lap time of 52.681 seconds, followed by a third fastest lap time of > 52.701 seconds, for his second encounter at the 1.22 mile circuit situated in > Kent. > > Speaking of his qualifying achievement, Files remains confident that he can > make a strong start in the series that has propelled the likes of Tom > Onslow-Cole, Dave Newsham and Aron Smith to the BTCC. > > bIbm feeling good about how the session went,b said Files. bI think > that I drove well overall, but itbs just so close when we come and race here > due to the lap being so short.b > > bMy aim for tomorrow is to put myself in contention for a podium finish in > the first race, and really push for the win in the second. The car feels great > and Ibm sure thatbs achievable.b > > The opening round of the 2013 Renault UK Clio Cup will get underway tomorrow > (Sunday, 31st March), at 10.20, with Round 2 at 15.35. > > The second of the two races will be screened live on ITV4, ITV4 HD and can be > streamed live at www.itv.com/btcc > > Follow Josh Files on: > www.joshfiles.co.uk > @JoshFiles > Facebook.com/joshfilesracing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For more information, please contact William Fewkes at > BAM Motorsport Promotions: > Tel: +44 (0)1442 891 500 > Email: wfewkes@bam-promo.com > Web: www.bam-promo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > follow on Twitter | friend on Facebook | forward to a friend > > > > > > Copyright B) 2013 BAM Motorsports Group, All rights reserved. > From Josh Files PR Database > Our mailing address is: > > BAM Motorsports Group > 8 Akeman Street > Tring, Eng HP23 6AA > United Kingdom > > Add us to your address book > > > > > > > > > > > unsubscribe > from this list | update subscription preferences > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billb@bnj.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 30 14:44:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E8640568 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 14:44:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC151403F1 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 14:44:21 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=CwryTvcN3Yl5uKqoTRxUZtvCGuAH1Ny9Eo+sQ1jm8YnEE2WJyGHs5SeYSVTzsmSL; h=Received:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [67.0.67.51] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1UM2b1-0003uA-QQ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 16:41:51 -0400 References: <51574D64.2090309@bradakis.com> From: "Greg \"Lunker\" Hilyer" Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 14:41:51 -0600 To: Mark J Bradakis Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Now kids... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'll second THAT! Greg "Lunker" Hilyer TR4 #314 Albuquerque NM On Mar 30, 2013, at 2:39 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > Behave yourselves, before I do something drastic like double your > free subscription > prices! > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ > lunkercars@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 30 15:39:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2449F40406 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 15:39:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s1.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s1.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC56403EF for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 15:39:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT401-EAS413 ([65.55.90.72]) by snt0-omc2-s1.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 30 Mar 2013 14:37:16 -0700 References: <163bf.14006f3c.3e87470b@aol.com> <5156029D.5000601@dfn.com> <607A04D6-C8FC-454C-8191-046120018014@gdhs.com> <0CCD4E13-F7E6-4796-ADA2-821153F27CE1@gmail.com> From: Vince G Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 17:36:24 -0400 To: Duncan Charlton FILETIME=[BFCDBAE0:01CE2D8E] Cc: FOT of Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ya change the subject. Maybe Calendar Girls :) Sent from my iPhone On 2013-03-30, at 2:31 PM, "Duncan Charlton" wrote: > Can we switch to religion now? > Alonzo Quijada > > On Mar 29, 2013, at 5:04 PM, John Hasty wrote: > >> Don't forget what Obama and his fellow travelers are doing to our country, >> we'll be lucky if any of us can afford gas at all if they continue down the >> road to bankruptcy. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 30 20:38:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F32640424 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 20:38:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f177.google.com (mail-qc0-f177.google.com [209.85.216.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5414403C6 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 20:38:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f177.google.com with SMTP id u28so658114qcs.22 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 19:35:53 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=8ffvUrG4o9x8guFJpyvgkZzvt7grSRAm4uHA1YjCHYg=; b=bgUhxlMc2OHPm7sYkfnqQt7PvM9Z9TdhTbFHK5OTpoNS1rmxV73akLfZYqEd16LJGj dvjXKhy34Kw88pNFPM1p1NYwisjcZFIxRO7vvQaMMt4JN416dBZRixzAuBRT1iPbyHiT Uhz7vRv2Qi+kwAtRsmqANm50hX0yxDBHB6rPW80RTlxjKH7LFohpavrCLrX+oa0qrLtS to66+55WBy74mVK1+Wns7tfTko16mnetlOqVzJ42r+zz8hywU/8T2lZ1UV3erA2PQR8g 9BJgomkx07d1huIebd6q3y0cInfRpjdZLfvdfvZ42ckELsAbOddktyuMG1bBNcP+WHFN jRBg== bm20mr8949253qab.30.1364697352962; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 19:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.59.133 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 19:35:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Enquiries Road & Track" Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 12:35:32 +1000 To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] TR brake caliper bracket options Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net does anyone know of any alternative brackets to make it easier to mount non- standard front brake calipers like Willwood or brembos??. I have the facilities to make whatever i want, but sometimes when you are in a hurry, its just easier to buy thanks, Terry _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 30 23:16:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7859C4041E for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 23:16:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (imr-mb02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 080F1403EF for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 23:16:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7F9D038000094 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 01:14:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-deb004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-deb004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.53.141]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 443BFE000083 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 01:14:02 -0400 (EDT) References: <1364588448.78126.YahooMailNeo@web162505.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> To: fot@autox.team.net From: robertten1@aol.com Received: from 96.233.64.253 by webmail-d191.sysops.aol.com (205.188.103.95) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 31 Mar 2013 01:14:01 -0400 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 01:14:01 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364706842; bh=YsMXiZ3P3Mj1jyz/VQZSydeNY0mBv7hPW3jXBM4F4QM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bRj1M18eAorJ/QB25hHb51DsIb072C70j+pNNah2i0BaEQYWV5l3M0eUyFLEAIDgc mmoerGDzNsnSoKVFO0dSzXVFXgGayZO+CA2atDG3V1CcQ/4G06CRJ9gUypRKbipVbC FGL+NosqJOr8JwTwThzdxK9ykjT3rTWBQrfyroNY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d5157c61a0407 Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We still pay less for gas than most our neighbors around the pond. So don't cry yet. Bob T -----Original Message----- From: John Wagner To: BillDentin ; william.tobin31 ; spitlist ; fot Sent: Sat, Mar 30, 2013 2:21 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear When I was 16 I worked in the local canning factory canning peas. I worked 100 hours a week and cleared $100. Wow I was rich. John ________________________________ From: "BillDentin@aol.com" To: william.tobin31@verizon.net; spitlist@cox.net; fot@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear In a message dated 03/29/2013 5:41:59 AM Central Standard Time, william.tobin31@verizon.net writes: > In a way I long for those days too. Then I remember that the prevailing > wage > for teens was $1.00 an hour! > When I was a teen in the mid 60's gas was 27.9 for years. > Bill... You're just a kid. I've got you by at least ten years. I remember taking my Shirley out on a date, and stopping for a bucks worth of regular for my 1951 Ford. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/j.wags63@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 31 06:06:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0822440431 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 06:06:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm12-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm12-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.88]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9042403FA for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 06:06:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.177] by nm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2013 12:04:00 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.10] by tm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2013 12:04:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1010.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2013 12:04:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 73278 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Mar 2013 12:04:00 -0000 s=s1024; t=1364731440; bh=RklL4KHOdk9NLyCwynNllECXf8eZM1nWmIbNuhsdf7M=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=v7soP1sSR2ia3fKCgfZci++lMSGArylV5MErOOsivyX4JRx5oEHhBUgFyZjTus9UDzCVQWqxfy5Vd/jiI2LFfOh4ZmoY9HpBuIuMAsuTlbemVXxPYAylfT3dYZGBR4FHGlwY4uoBn186c7CfTTdI2jYdZXpXNOlxnzTCU6BB5SY= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NTZuXgJNJ5mOY4Yw6bjP/ys7hQeRs4USDZ0dUDaLu0MwOdqjhqqGOz/yZYpIJef9o1ZvhZaqKm3Qczj7kwweWh32rTb+vTaZIYLMHaGdjv3WwIzxi+pAOvcBXZZPizh1riaWUWCMYJlai17shsOvx68mCW4o9rz493TbxmDlNGE=; thrbfXqtoWnBboa1dHWWElRDH8PS6ENNksevRezmKFxKd2b19BGlLe_XkxR1 mzquymvy5GKC5M_xG1syW4aTI7M.kPGlWrAPdKuSKwBdMmtnDY2AIPlSl3dO 8pKmLA07OSPJaUX62SLFhMcXR4XfWqSPgHg69pSPmL3Nl5UZCTzMfq7NU210 xj.V_OlOcwaTMxyCm0N7lImPaYNAxFeepBA1ClScF6YPEaA2Cm6GHOzugrPX u_gnmspcf.zlcD_YybBYsQmPfghCxg3IhtuVUgIarSEIwjk_vwZ_E3BfAdGt P_vhUYtRNtyVDZvk0lJw8cZTZR9kKlEFQEK7Q7kfWuktx2S4cyu1h7Mt1qsQ cnvQFGWIQ.sKcp6ExRFDJv9H8TAoTQDE8blB5TFlBfpev32cRPHKCG790D6B 06Xj9CP.iq.WeqrNeYc8mVTgVVG1Rd97xgFCNsILqqZVm9dagO0ONm6C_k7J xTw7WnV8tlENj4mlVhsx3rdE4DE9f2QhSIflrU_ebSL6h.O.AzWK9ymwvDbU E2W9WfUYWJC2BCMziXzL2EL3Rd8g- Received: from [99.157.50.20] by web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 05:04:00 PDT CgogCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwoKwqDCoEkgd29ya2VkwqBhdCBhIGdhcyBzdGF0aW9uIGluIHRoZSA3MCdzIHdoZW4gSSB3YXMgaW4gaGlnaCBzY2hvb2zCoGJ1dMKgSSBkb24ndCByZW1lbWJlciB0aGUgcHJpY2Ugb2Ygb2lsIG9yIGdhcy4KV2hhdCBJIERPIHJlbWVtYmVyIGlzIGNsZWFuaW5nIHRoZSB3aW5kc2hpZWxkcyBvZiBnaXJscyBpbiBtaW5pLXNraXJ0cy4KSXQgdG9vayBsb25nZXIgdGhhbiB0aGUgbm9ybWFsIHdpbmRzaGllbGQgYnV0IHRoZXkgd2VyZSBzcG90bGUBMAEBAQE- References: <163bf.14006f3c.3e87470b@aol.com> <5156029D.5000601@dfn.com> <607A04D6-C8FC-454C-8191-046120018014@gdhs.com> <0CCD4E13-F7E6-4796-ADA2-821153F27CE1@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 05:04:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Munson To: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net ________________________________ I worked at a gas station in the 70's when I was in high school but I don't remember the price of oil or gas. What I DO remember is cleaning the windshields of girls in mini-skirts. It took longer than the normal windshield but they were spotless when they drove off. Mike Ya change the subject. Maybe Calendar Girls :) Sent from my iPhone On 2013-03-30, at 2:31 PM, "Duncan Charlton" _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 31 07:59:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D18D40411 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 07:59:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s37.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s37.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.112]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19DCE403F3 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 07:58:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W132 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s37.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 31 Mar 2013 06:56:26 -0700 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 09:56:26 -0400 FILETIME=[895DE280:01CE2E17] Subject: [Fot] K. Cup 2013 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net As of this morning we surpassed last years Mitty entrants. There are currently 53 folks who have expressed their intentions of competing at the 2013 Kastner Cup at Road America and there is still 4 months to go. If you are planning on attending and have not done so yet, get me your name car number and model so I can include it on the shirt back. no commitment required, we can add or remove names just before I place the order. It just makes planning a bit easier. Thanks, _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 31 08:05:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9E540433 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 08:05:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-da0-f48.google.com (mail-da0-f48.google.com [209.85.210.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B08403F3 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 08:05:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-da0-f48.google.com with SMTP id p8so746865dan.21 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 07:02:56 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xd+gjoxerr1NTK5YVewbrXExNuFyGMdlCSAdSvaJsdc=; b=znM3a7s/ZXprh/b6cCNYDdav7EBgsCGlOrlgtGqdNghqYsD4giHydhLzKPRlHi13/T LpCj2nS3Zi5h2t1Ds9Li4ijJgoa6164P9EXj5OdDT4zZLUjNbbdnmek8lQc+Zb1ZAym2 edWrHBP6N/62A34sYdK+S/hxb3N/6uU5WV4GaZbvAD76YSSq3lGOThLGlu9Psil7FEB6 IgeKa5hIauZ4UBfaIt/ZFeGRUd44HgO+x3NrmMmLE1r5X1kcF/5LI38Pg4lvelsboA+s 0B279IqeJLx2/+fo6cVSwgMyZQNilLKaTX7l7jbgk0nRQb+0Wa6Vf2Hdyn8FLmp80eyd K59w== al2mr13710577pbc.87.1364738576827; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 07:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-47-34.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.47.34]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id sl9sm4510498pbc.17.2013.03.31.07.02.53 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 31 Mar 2013 07:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 07:02:50 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <163bf.14006f3c.3e87470b@aol.com> <5156029D.5000601@dfn.com> <607A04D6-C8FC-454C-8191-046120018014@gdhs.com> <0CCD4E13-F7E6-4796-ADA2-821153F27CE1@gmail.com> <1364731440.58313.YahooMailNeo@web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 3/31/13 5:04 AM, Mike Munson wrote: > ________________________________ > > I worked at a gas station in the 70's > when I was in high school but I don't remember the price of oil or gas. > What I > DO remember is cleaning the windshields of girls in mini-skirts. > It took > longer than the normal windshield but they were spotless when they drove off. And I remember hitchhiking back in the early '70's wearing a very mini skirt. The guy who stopped to give me a lift was driving a Europa. I think he just wanted to see how a young woman with a 34 inch inseam and about the shortest miniskirt you could sit in and not get arrested was going to climb down into a Europa. He got lots a leg but I did know how to get into and out of Little British sports cars without showing more. Mostly I remember my first ride in a Europa. Back in the days of service stations I discovered that if I paid attention to the attendant and smiled I always knew all the car's fluids were full, the tyre pressures were correct and every window was clean when I drove off. These days with cars you just drive for 10-15 years until they break then just throw them away even the service bays are things of the long ago past. TeriAnn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 31 08:36:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1627640423 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 08:36:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gateway03.websitewelcome.com (gateway03.websitewelcome.com [69.93.37.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0F540400 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 08:36:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by gateway03.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 5007) id 303C2661F23AA; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 09:34:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gator1167.hostgator.com (gator1167.hostgator.com [174.121.10.98]) by gateway03.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259D9661F2388 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 09:34:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dhcp-239-168.dsl.enter.net ([216.193.168.239]:50535 helo=walterPC) by gator1167.hostgator.com with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UMJKr-0006h3-M7; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 09:34:18 -0500 From: "Walter Hollowell" To: , References: <1364588448.78126.YahooMailNeo@web162505.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <8CFFBE5B0B45854-AFC-31CAD@webmail-d191.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 08:34:16 -0600 Thread-Index: AQI0kcfwh4ORRy7XgushG+2wsew1eQKY945sApf+kZaXyY2rMA== Content-Language: en-us with any abuse report Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Actually the price of gas is virtually the same anywhere around the globe. It is just the socialist taxes that added on top of the price of gas varies the pump price. Just ask California. Walt Hollowell Albuquerque, New Mexico -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of robertten1@aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 11:14 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear We still pay less for gas than most our neighbors around the pond. So don't cry yet. Bob T -----Original Message----- From: John Wagner To: BillDentin ; william.tobin31 ; spitlist ; fot Sent: Sat, Mar 30, 2013 2:21 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear When I was 16 I worked in the local canning factory canning peas. I worked 100 hours a week and cleared $100. Wow I was rich. John ________________________________ From: "BillDentin@aol.com" To: william.tobin31@verizon.net; spitlist@cox.net; fot@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear In a message dated 03/29/2013 5:41:59 AM Central Standard Time, william.tobin31@verizon.net writes: > In a way I long for those days too. Then I remember that the prevailing > wage > for teens was $1.00 an hour! > When I was a teen in the mid 60's gas was 27.9 for years. > Bill... You're just a kid. I've got you by at least ten years. I remember taking my Shirley out on a date, and stopping for a bucks worth of regular for my 1951 Ford. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/j.wags63@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/walt@hot-tr6.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 31 09:31:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3834044C for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 09:31:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm6.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm6.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.207]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85CE0403EA for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 09:31:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.198] by nm6.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2013 15:29:06 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.100] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2013 15:29:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1005.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2013 15:29:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 50256 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Mar 2013 15:29:06 -0000 s=s1024; t=1364743746; bh=IMia5N97crENSdWt1mjKM7tlM/3eJ1ym+xFxsGf5GXc=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SBth5j6r0LPD2f84S6ROgGNxa5H3uXqh7ur945ouB6OgxNZCaNuH6zcxr9WEbkZdREayHDjsGMTdGwOiA07wzpPe664KgNpgoXm9Terklgu2ux6J8+Ovc7CSoXhnJ3nxyAcFmGFpGemxTDDtsxw2GYt+RMtkQcRr1N2hh2z0OPQ= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jsbYlOkzOwh9EydOMLxCM1E7AA+dfGJj2Ew7lqqKV6sE3R2jMXvF7GKPJidVtyKKlHYTUvyCe8heMNFQoN95/UFPuvquP7yDifcoYb4XGPD/cfspm1xX99++BqnN+si5eejMgIspopVzSNUBcrvgOW2lJ+56CvLtR31acbfVQLk=; hVdHIUQCaDavKXCTuxYdtGcN2ow_OB8x_Qz1ClHERClzveGDisnPxLCfBjlZ R4MNfDEfXNYxgCGzmpkHJp_FHEcaSF03LG1xRhnceQAuWXr2W.cYyju.u69B tRaZFPXveS3VBUVMFXQ3uLc8E75R1rZUEThg_HiNqsghBsMbvdWPi7AJDX6H ZnvyWLHc7fODbtnHTOYsrD1aeAiRVn7OxOmtCKwYelKfyZEGGkr9NuMYw0X1 Do4rMTwszxHGneBdUaszvxy1JR._UaAthiVR7PC84HrP7oMtuKj8lWM9XMlH LajdRc70f_0QCqNG6bMB2fDO0T6yL3Q6r_Kw9IK8Q3SbB8tlsJ7qDzLQje7u RalCaWzcD4ohh6._7ThfrxoWvL_JYjm4OUbhWOYHy4aCuhO8pJHFxsnmWz0s 7tGNEprvbPsPYMwNjL.FshJHRWn2TSApS6xGt08xLkf1UhQE1f4.sRPgzQch xwkY6QnlvOw95oZKVZldB2k7f45_gFzRwb5wFmrbiELKz Received: from [76.221.83.131] by web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 08:29:06 PDT SGFwcHkgRWFzdGVyIHRvIG15IEZvVCBmYW1pbHkuLi4gICBCb2JieQoKCgoKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCkZyb206IEpvZSBBbGV4YW5kZXIgPG4xOTd0cjRAY3MuY29tPgpUbzogZHVuY2FuLmNoYXJsdG9uNTRAZ21haWwuY29tOyBmb3RAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQKU2VudDogU2F0LCBNYXJjaCAzMCwgMjAxMyAzOjE4OjU5IFBNClN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBbRm90XSBTdGF0aW9ucyBvZiB5ZXN0ZXJ5ZWFyCgpZYSEgIEhvdyBhYm91dCB0aGF0IG5ldyBQb3BlPyEKCkpvZSBBbGV4YW4BMAEBAQE- References: <163bf.14006f3c.3e87470b@aol.com> <5156029D.5000601@dfn.com> <607A04D6-C8FC-454C-8191-046120018014@gdhs.com> <0CCD4E13-F7E6-4796-ADA2-821153F27CE1@gmail.com> <8CFFB9AE8DCED34-1D90-3979A@webmail-m290.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 08:29:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Bobby Whitehead To: Joe Alexander Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Happy Easter to my FoT family... Bobby ________________________________ From: Joe Alexander To: duncan.charlton54@gmail.com; fot@autox.team.net Sent: Sat, March 30, 2013 3:18:59 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Ya! How about that new Pope?! Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton To: FOT of Sent: Sat, Mar 30, 2013 1:31 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Can we switch to religion now? Alonzo Quijada On Mar 29, 2013, at 5:04 PM, John Hasty wrote: > Don't forget what Obama and his fellow travelers are doing to our country, > we'll be lucky if any of us can afford gas at all if they continue down the > road to bankruptcy. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 31 11:53:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5093403FA for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 11:53:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30B9403BA for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 16:39:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.36.253]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MKH004KAW5OYO10@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 17:37:02 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "John Hasty" , "Michael Porter" References: <163bf.14006f3c.3e87470b@aol.com> <5156029D.5000601@dfn.com> <607A04D6-C8FC-454C-8191-046120018014@gdhs.com> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 18:37:12 -0400 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry, can't resist. My investments, which took a major fatty TWICE under Dubya, have come back and then some under President Obama. And your grandchildren will still be paying for his clusterf**k in Iraq. When I hear him (Obama) referred to as "That N....r" my blood boils. And I heard it recently. Just as Dubya (he called himself that) was my president, Obama is indeed your president. Live with it. End of rant. Original Message ----- From: "John Hasty" To: "Michael Porter" Cc: Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear > Don't forget what Obama and his fellow travelers are doing to our country, > we'll be lucky if any of us can afford gas at all if they continue down > the > road to bankruptcy. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 29, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Michael Porter wrote: > >> On 3/29/2013 1:35 PM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: >>> In a message dated 03/29/2013 12:28:21 PM Central Standard Time, >>> kaskastner@gmail.com writes: >>> >>> >>>> Remember also that the US was paying the arabs $5 buck for a barrel of >>>> oil, not $91. (although I guess the amount are the same with the > inflation) >>>> >>> Kas... >>> >>> Interesting observation, and if my high school 'ratio' math still works, > if >>> it was .299 a gallon for gas when oil was $5.00 a barrel, shouldn't we >>> expect to pay $5.442 now? I just filled my tank for $3.799 a gallon. >>> All >>> things being relative...maybe we should not be complaining. >>> >>> >> >> The problem is, as usual, more complicated than that. First, if one is > looking for a standard of measurement based on inflation and the cost of a > barrel of oil, then one has to exclude changes in federal, state and local > taxes. Then one has to get the actual numbers more or less in line with > the > reality of the time frame, and then do some data smoothing to eliminate > the > peaks created by temporary shortages (the 1973 and 1978 embargoes and > withheld > shipments, for example) and oil prices affected by predatory speculation > (such > as the $147/bbl spike recently). You get something like this: >> >> http://inflationdata.com/Inflation/Inflation_Rate/Gasoline_Inflation.asp >> >> If we're talking about prices being affected in large part by Saudi >> Arabia, > it's important to get the numbers in the timeline correct, because the > establishment of OPEC price controls after 1973 changed the pricing > schedules > considerably. Saudi oil was routinely purchased by the refiners for a > wellhead price before shipping of $1.50/bbl, until the 1973 embargo. > Within > six weeks of the beginning of the partial embargo by SA, that price was > $6/bbl, and within four months, was $10/bbl. That alone is a 660% increase > in > the crude price in less than half a year. At the beginning of the > embargo, > gas prices jumped from a nominal $.30/gal to $.60/gal, and stabilized in > the > low .50s/gal until the 1978 oil shock, where the price increased to ~ > $2.25, > adjusted for inflation. >> >> Finally, one needs to look at crack differentials (price of all refined > products combined per bbl of feedstock vs. crude oil feedstock price per > bbl), > which have been rising and, as well, understand that the NYMEX and London > spot > prices are more an indication of crude price trends in the market, rather > than > an actual current price paid by the majors, all of which tend to lock in > production rates and prices for extended periods at prices lower than the > spot > market. Going by crack differentials, the gross profits of the majors and > inflation-adjusted pricing, gas prices are currently quite a bit higher > than > the historical average. >> >> >> Cheers. >> >> -- >> >> >> Michael Porter >> Roswell, NM >> >> >> Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking > distance.... >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 31 11:54:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113644041D for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 11:54:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail201c2.megamailservers.com (mail201c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D83403C6 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 19:46:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.237.67.85] (17.sub-174-228-65.myvzw.com [174.228.65.17]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail201c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r2V1hTTa013340 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 30 Mar 2013 21:43:32 -0400 References: <163bf.14006f3c.3e87470b@aol.com> <5156029D.5000601@dfn.com> <607A04D6-C8FC-454C-8191-046120018014@gdhs.com> <72C72B039EC44EB6B398E59AFC51ECB8@hpd530> From: John Hasty Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 21:43:28 -0400 To: Bill Tobin a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=CKFgqXMiFZceaCOrPlyA3Q==:17 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=NTgSIB6fAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=EEUed45fAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=VKhgQ2jvlYZUyjSIwg8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=I79HZNmoWdQA:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=lqA02NAGceIA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=CKFgqXMiFZceaCOrPlyA3Q==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Good Lord...... I made no personal remark about the Pres. Where did you come up with that idea? He could be purple and it wouldn't make any difference to me. It's his & the fellow liberals' policies that are driving us to bankruptcy, you must realize his spending cannot continue. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 30, 2013, at 6:37 PM, "Bill Tobin" wrote: > Sorry, can't resist. > My investments, which took a major fatty TWICE under Dubya, have come back and then some under President Obama. > And your grandchildren will still be paying for his clusterf**k in Iraq. When I hear him (Obama) referred to as "That N....r" my blood boils. And I heard it recently. > Just as Dubya (he called himself that) was my president, Obama is indeed your president. Live with it. > End of rant. Original Message ----- From: "John Hasty" > To: "Michael Porter" > Cc: > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 6:04 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear > > >> Don't forget what Obama and his fellow travelers are doing to our country, >> we'll be lucky if any of us can afford gas at all if they continue down the >> road to bankruptcy. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 29, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Michael Porter wrote: >> >>> On 3/29/2013 1:35 PM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: >>>> In a message dated 03/29/2013 12:28:21 PM Central Standard Time, >>>> kaskastner@gmail.com writes: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Remember also that the US was paying the arabs $5 buck for a barrel of >>>>> oil, not $91. (although I guess the amount are the same with the >> inflation) >>>> Kas... >>>> >>>> Interesting observation, and if my high school 'ratio' math still works, >> if >>>> it was .299 a gallon for gas when oil was $5.00 a barrel, shouldn't we >>>> expect to pay $5.442 now? I just filled my tank for $3.799 a gallon. All >>>> things being relative...maybe we should not be complaining. >>> >>> The problem is, as usual, more complicated than that. First, if one is >> looking for a standard of measurement based on inflation and the cost of a >> barrel of oil, then one has to exclude changes in federal, state and local >> taxes. Then one has to get the actual numbers more or less in line with the >> reality of the time frame, and then do some data smoothing to eliminate the >> peaks created by temporary shortages (the 1973 and 1978 embargoes and withheld >> shipments, for example) and oil prices affected by predatory speculation (such >> as the $147/bbl spike recently). You get something like this: >>> >>> http://inflationdata.com/Inflation/Inflation_Rate/Gasoline_Inflation.asp >>> >>> If we're talking about prices being affected in large part by Saudi Arabia, >> it's important to get the numbers in the timeline correct, because the >> establishment of OPEC price controls after 1973 changed the pricing schedules >> considerably. Saudi oil was routinely purchased by the refiners for a >> wellhead price before shipping of $1.50/bbl, until the 1973 embargo. Within >> six weeks of the beginning of the partial embargo by SA, that price was >> $6/bbl, and within four months, was $10/bbl. That alone is a 660% increase in >> the crude price in less than half a year. At the beginning of the embargo, >> gas prices jumped from a nominal $.30/gal to $.60/gal, and stabilized in the >> low .50s/gal until the 1978 oil shock, where the price increased to ~ $2.25, >> adjusted for inflation. >>> >>> Finally, one needs to look at crack differentials (price of all refined >> products combined per bbl of feedstock vs. crude oil feedstock price per bbl), >> which have been rising and, as well, understand that the NYMEX and London spot >> prices are more an indication of crude price trends in the market, rather than >> an actual current price paid by the majors, all of which tend to lock in >> production rates and prices for extended periods at prices lower than the spot >> market. Going by crack differentials, the gross profits of the majors and >> inflation-adjusted pricing, gas prices are currently quite a bit higher than >> the historical average. >>> >>> >>> Cheers. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> Michael Porter >>> Roswell, NM >>> >>> >>> Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking >> distance.... >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 31 11:54:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E19044288A for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 11:54:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f170.google.com (mail-ve0-f170.google.com [209.85.128.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B1A403FA for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 09:11:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f170.google.com with SMTP id 15so1861885vea.29 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 08:08:55 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date :to:x-gm-message-state; bh=Aj0gUI7qpRJLqx2b/aqsM/4ZbAv38eJnNX34MMaV/7s=; b=Dv4FUfQu+xkL9e0q1sC9Q4bLatIpcIfAmlag4e3Vobj/GFAEB/oGz0xIUZALbD30Ed WJlopvYXTtykRL+tEmT5XUfTKm7NGGJ1hBzyFtohwa4Mau8PFdEIj5BbcUDNNJDVJR/P SvlJn22TE9yCSHxiRRA9ZtgZjInvWC5hhzTGKWMrTovMR3MlI7lfCpKLhQ2WqC6jC78z E4cb5ZOTgYAvtNrs/xNegG8P9a7qcKKcY+03hn89G2UA+qxiU0jxzGNP5QU3lgpxG6xz 75HIf+yvk3ZknBC22j4e7yKZtOX2V2RjRevu+GaMJQVWGZ0DrOV/4bolv9fuXLtJCrBl wSAg== l11mr5908570vdt.29.1364742534899; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 08:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.131.91.58] (mobile-198-228-207-083.mycingular.net. [198.228.207.83]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bi15sm10343534vdc.6.2013.03.31.08.08.53 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 31 Mar 2013 08:08:54 -0700 (PDT) References: <1364588448.78126.YahooMailNeo@web162505.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <8CFFBE5B0B45854-AFC-31CAD@webmail-d191.sysops.aol.com> <000e01ce2e1c$d32c7070$79855150$@hot-tr6.com> From: Bob Bownes -Seiri Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 11:08:52 -0400 To: Walter Hollowell Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Arn't any of you guys going racing or somethin? I need to get a bit of paint on the car, mount up a fresh set of Hoosiers, drop a battery in her and go play! On Mar 31, 2013, at 10:34, "Walter Hollowell" wrote: > Actually the price of gas is virtually the same anywhere around the globe. > It is just the socialist taxes that added on top of the price of gas varies > the pump price. Just ask California. > Walt Hollowell > Albuquerque, New Mexico > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of robertten1@aol.com > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 11:14 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear > > We still pay less for gas than most our neighbors around the pond. So > don't cry yet. > > Bob T > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Wagner > To: BillDentin ; william.tobin31 > ; spitlist ; fot > > Sent: Sat, Mar 30, 2013 2:21 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear > > > When I was 16 I worked in the local canning factory canning peas. I > worked 100 hours a week and cleared $100. Wow I was rich. > > > John > > ________________________________ > From: "BillDentin@aol.com" > > To: william.tobin31@verizon.net; spitlist@cox.net; fot@autox.team.net > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 9:32 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] > Stations of yesteryear > > In a message dated 03/29/2013 5:41:59 AM Central Standard Time, > william.tobin31@verizon.net writes: > > >> In a way I long for > those days too. Then I remember that the prevailing >> wage >> for teens was > $1.00 an hour! >> When I was a teen in the mid 60's gas was 27.9 for years. > Bill... > > You're just a kid. I've got you by at least ten years. I remember taking > my Shirley out on a date, and stopping for a bucks worth of regular for my > 1951 Ford. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/j.wags63@yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/walt@hot-tr6.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 31 11:54:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927594044C for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 11:54:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm24-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.154]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0F5403F3 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 09:34:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm24.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2013 15:32:13 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.253] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2013 15:32:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp116-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2013 15:32:13 -0000 s=s1024; t=1364743933; bh=+vamAXinUtfxvN4VH87OgJjX5Vc8kZzt8dfwj7l3o54=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Subject:References:From:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:Cc:To:X-Mailer; b=ERgDDYrlh1WnIhSuFVtX28IWTLyuev0j0Q9ZmJmDWockPuJ4AZvG/N3rlWDAh1K4NI6Yk9N+R1uoz/9GXF6GYNtnzpTXCni8q0ISbZRwDOv0LL/BPymKhoK+Im4c5TI78qHrbAGvuxqK8nwGh5jKs5/PgLtOuBKFUCE/15nnMTg= jI8G36FXxNEJut5d6RIhzVIFtVWI.VAxlNSBtJwtV7l5M9kvXPbbypUpDnDN HSUTtUuFi.d1bO2DwWgvkqDNjBh5di79aRPCe8QU77V3e7ffcW9C81vi8CSf UgpKlRy_WuOpGlvWzS1l.E3xltiCNwBY2ZciC9GwUBLOcrloNUWroCuSihWc 5mWUVzR0ndZB1QskKNxTZMVkJ7iSHeQVqjHMZTGR.oJ7HtI6j7e9m2fZujlk Uq4SMqUss1qnsaztyDVz0u1vD6QG8__PaVPPFO6KYElae96mbhbesU.W4N2r jbU6BsvEdpv9eRGhNh_qrSajSh09tK.rJbBxQcWcRJW5Ef7Sat.JIRzAvbXd hTn.HY2MIh0Guz_DBcq51ywz4Z8azQgaxSezUWAeEuODrt_nvzEKomQ4VfGX Ywqv_AC5opgPHc_Be7LuNzVWwX18FjEFBYtMfoyG2AgUmTcL1mtKauHyjZcP N7msSMIUUif3pTFPLy_whK9m2p_w- with xymcookie) by smtp116-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Mar 2013 08:32:13 -0700 PDT References: From: "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 09:29:04 -0600 To: Kas Kastner Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If I remember right, the strength of our dollar determines how much we pay for oil. A weaker dollar means a higher price for oil and at the pump. When our economy is doing well, gas prices are less. Ty Sent from my iPad (Please excuse any errors or typos) On Mar 29, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Kas Kastner wrote: > Remember also that the US was paying the arabs $5 buck for a barrel of oil, > not $91. (although I guess the amount are the same with the inflation) > > *Never be beaten by equipment.* > > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 7:32 AM, wrote: > >> In a message dated 03/29/2013 5:41:59 AM Central Standard Time, >> william.tobin31@verizon.net writes: >> >> >>> In a way I long for those days too. Then I remember that the prevailing >>> wage >>> for teens was $1.00 an hour! >>> When I was a teen in the mid 60's gas was 27.9 for years. >> >> Bill... >> >> You're just a kid. I've got you by at least ten years. I remember taking >> my Shirley out on a date, and stopping for a bucks worth of regular for my >> 1951 Ford. >> >> Bill Dentinger >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tylerpthompson@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 31 11:55:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DD240ECE for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 11:55:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail202c2.megamailservers.com (mail202c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60C1403F3 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 10:01:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.237.67.85] (17.sub-174-228-65.myvzw.com [174.228.65.17]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail202c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r2VFwVbc001702 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 31 Mar 2013 11:58:34 -0400 References: <163bf.14006f3c.3e87470b@aol.com> <5156029D.5000601@dfn.com> <607A04D6-C8FC-454C-8191-046120018014@gdhs.com> <0CCD4E13-F7E6-4796-ADA2-821153F27CE1@gmail.com> <8CFFB9AE8DCED34-1D90-3979A@webmail-m290.sysops.aol.com> <1364743746.39685.YahooMailRC@web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: John Hasty Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 11:58:30 -0400 To: Bobby Whitehead a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=CKFgqXMiFZceaCOrPlyA3Q==:17 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=tqQxHmckLeUHJ0BUqG4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=MG4Rcr4xqJIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=CKFgqXMiFZceaCOrPlyA3Q==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Now here's a great change of subject! Back to you Bobby & to all. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 31, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > Happy Easter to my FoT family... Bobby > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Joe Alexander > To: duncan.charlton54@gmail.com; fot@autox.team.net > Sent: Sat, March 30, 2013 3:18:59 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear > > Ya! How about that new Pope?! > > Joe Alexander > A. R. E. > 645 1st Street > Jesup, Iowa 50648 > 319.464.4711 (cell) > n197tr4@cs.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Duncan Charlton > To: FOT of > Sent: Sat, Mar 30, 2013 1:31 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear > > > Can we switch to religion now? > Alonzo Quijada > > On Mar 29, 2013, at 5:04 PM, John Hasty wrote: > >> Don't forget what Obama and his fellow travelers are doing to our country, >> we'll be lucky if any of us can afford gas at all if they continue down the >> road to bankruptcy. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 31 13:42:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8292040410 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:42:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm19-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270B9403EB for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:41:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.126] by nm19.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2013 19:39:21 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.123] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2013 19:39:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1028.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2013 19:39:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 31902 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Mar 2013 19:39:21 -0000 s=s1024; t=1364758761; bh=jRcZzM5Ree/YvvJwasXoi5usrnVnBIvLM9DCYVJU+MA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oqqORGRqac9YMjjn0iYUEklnx4jlsbIEwgMqQ9T8w2WBTxUd9tAci9F1mg19vYrpAIw98uS305ITNfvXo2hinFGtJVDbOgyHNYvOhPrjhvmJE8Vw1y8FM23+ARiTdDbccrpjBD4An/x1NyEvEtAJscMEl0MxmyjUadh7UIg2us4= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5wTFOsaKS0rKGZaE0/WajrAjHw1DCvmT77UGSWtsHzBj6AZSmxQ50nG9JZ82NCnQopUveu+sZS/3UR5gsrv3d3wWE2NZq6FNI8nUwM0VHxxsMrDD+ZPotSpZoShdku6TfX86yf4wBAItOzpz/V3Szuuv1BWi18hiB7t7YQ7pAig=; qoO6w7ZDgXG4XO2e3n8z2wTl5BuFlV0T7eyAC2Ak9McP.XKCwYle8BGYTOiQ fD3.W6hHuaK8ycvNxqLVr9z9pVRlNRwCo4ZBulkggK_CJn0QupnxBDdptavG SGLjYNABQzqwvZ_GzR6EEnAZzGKodJOJ_eLAye_NigNE9fiov7SbtJkj03_M MoxB939nSdneP8hKG3ubwnhXnAG_bEZIIWjUHkSZ0tetzduQUhxdAhZWpU92 SABioKqOwichxlAqnxlXpnlMVxGcjwVuC_YHsILLKAlgxdY1n4sMrqJ.BAhQ omXOVYasvtnztTVYNqOyZ8gS_S2RTIYtuIY_F4JXngYeCz_DZxij0QbP_zBG S.Q9F45tC0_oJpB8MggH4qPVZ10tBOGMGsVCQ1LeGNiO39l3LV3QY99jc6iW Sm0Z22XxVsNHaFo5Rv89pQZpAZ9iQwFKMfaH0 Received: from [76.221.83.131] by web182206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 12:39:21 PDT T2JhbWEgaXMgb3VyIFByZXNpZGVudCBjYXNlIGNsb3NlZC4uLiBCVVQgQUxMIG91ciBncmFuZGNoaWxkcmVuIHdpbGwgYmUgcGF5aW5nIApmb3IgdGhlIGRlYnRzIGluY3VycmVkIGJ5IGhpbSBhbmQgaGlzIHByZWRlY2Vzc29ycy4uLiBpdCBJUyBFYXN0ZXIgU3VuZGF5LCBhIGRheSAKdG8gcmVmbGVjdCBhbmQgaG9ub3IgQ2hyaXN0IGlmIHlvdSBhcmUgYSBDaHJpc3RpYW4uLi4gdGhpcyBpcyB0aGUgbGFzdCBkYXkgSSAKdGhpbmsgd2Ugc2hvdWxkIGJlIGluIGEgcGlzc2luZyBtYXRjaCBvdmVyIHBvbGl0aWMBMAEBAQE- References: <163bf.14006f3c.3e87470b@aol.com> <5156029D.5000601@dfn.com> <607A04D6-C8FC-454C-8191-046120018014@gdhs.com> <72C72B039EC44EB6B398E59AFC51ECB8@hpd530> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 12:39:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] Easter Sunday Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Obama is our President case closed... BUT ALL our grandchildren will be paying for the debts incurred by him and his predecessors... it IS Easter Sunday, a day to reflect and honor Christ if you are a Christian... this is the last day I think we should be in a pissing match over politicians... we've got MSNBC and FOX if you want to find sides and rant and rave... Happy Easter... now....back to my smoking lamb chops, baking a ham, drinking a beer, and celebrating being free... Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: Bill Tobin To: John Hasty ; Michael Porter Cc: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Sun, March 31, 2013 12:51:13 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Sorry, can't resist. My investments, which took a major fatty TWICE under Dubya, have come back and then some under President Obama. And your grandchildren will still be paying for his clusterf**k in Iraq. When I hear him (Obama) referred to as "That N....r" my blood boils. And I heard it recently. Just as Dubya (he called himself that) was my president, Obama is indeed your president. Live with it. End of rant. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 31 13:46:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4033C4044C for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:46:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm6-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm6-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BDF18403EB for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:46:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.144] by nm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2013 19:44:06 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.215] by tm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2013 19:44:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1024.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2013 19:44:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 30236 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Mar 2013 19:44:06 -0000 s=s1024; t=1364759046; bh=IRsjJTn53hBqJY68PTQDp2uj1vCvOjTH6rlXcutHUdg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=2rnaAk2+LnTAZ7A+3Esaz+gJ9+5PKn9/cyDJZYUT73uM9piQ4Jx/5ymYsXHGohmIsmr3LhLvDjUy7WYfRscBaP+fvNfzx7btyp8u6BV2Xg9H2VZGgFEiitphLYSa8PgwDOctHTPM2+p3JbRqmWBzxF5F7XM4NmZcb/uuMqv40lY= s=s1024; d=ymail.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=lMeI+p/1+kmf+a0vjWbGXlAauC5L6rUKKyWxrl/D2kL13htyLTITCXsFbCyB5B796hRux9CI7kOqKoy0N8f2Xk2rWSM5t32wHrxhuZfYpiLQTx7y/R2zPBtj+0Xy9Yz9T8weP7JCH1KEeo3hxdrGHlhhxcJzlZQvPwXgrZ2367U=; H_6HMIX0vvJWBKuZaIJBUb3ZVnTUs4r_8daO.7cj67iJj1cDgZ_ol4foUoRc jfiwHQYBAgLXJFKofTIcR2ig5cErjJN3274g3.NWEMHK4_p0NfoZWrWjR6kI x2X5bejSFhgrTqi8d9YUmZF0CdNir.I4uaDsnfZ1q9GG.M714gAWIZq7dtzQ PdvW6y2RbbWs8UcmzbubY_xKwxMsebhIhgaiBOOxub8zz.qcKW85K.nh0NiC jd8vg_qkPj9hvnvMvPJ6fpw68BJEjkpt01iz5674o7i0ZmddV.z66dEs73UD 3tCCHvaovLFvob4ewuqUMCqwM9VgkeRx.KsBN4Bxnds43IwgKsJ0ZrabG9Kn lM53CfeN3jgNst0.rJFuE8aIXNpcIDTZ_pUy8KENSXvbqHcc8x_VDz3PEKL3 fj_aMEZf9_dI6LHUZud0nq3FMzsJTfLUxOyzte.Nl72kTGzT93hLlZzTgOBa hctmhrvAPsxmPPDLbGLv2f81Zb0_J4ZkEWdojLJ.nY8ZuOIpWMncw_1Fi9sF g12RbUg-- Received: from [173.17.127.43] by web161801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 12:44:06 PDT SGVyZSBoZXJlISBJIGxvdmUgdG8gcmFudCBhbmQgdGFsayBwb2xpdGljcyBidXQgaGVyZSBpcyBub3QgdGhlIHBsYWNlLiBXZSBhbGwgbG92ZSBUcml1bXBocyBhbmQgcmFjaW5nLCBsZXRzIGVuam95IHRoZSBvbmUgcGxhY2Ugd2UgZG9uJ3QgaGF2ZSB0byBsaXN0ZW4gdG8gdGhlICJzcGluIg0KSGFwcHkgRWFzdGVyIHRvIGFsbCENCg0KLS0tIE9uIFN1biwgMy8zMS8xMywgQm9iYnkgV2hpdGVoZWFkIDxpZ29mYXN0ZXJAYXR0Lm5ldD4gd3JvdGU6DQoNCj4gRnJvbTogQm9iYnkgV2hpdGVoZWFkIDxpZ29mYXMBMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 12:44:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Russell Westfall To: FoT Triumph , Bobby Whitehead Subject: Re: [Fot] Easter Sunday Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Here here! I love to rant and talk politics but here is not the place. We all love Triumphs and racing, lets enjoy the one place we don't have to listen to the "spin" Happy Easter to all! --- On Sun, 3/31/13, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > From: Bobby Whitehead > Subject: [Fot] Easter Sunday > To: "FoT Triumph" > Date: Sunday, March 31, 2013, 7:39 PM > Obama is our President case closed... > BUT ALL our grandchildren will be paying > for the debts incurred by him and his predecessors... it IS > Easter Sunday, a day > to reflect and honor Christ if you are a Christian... this > is the last day I > think we should be in a pissing match over politicians... > we've got MSNBC and > FOX if you want to find sides and rant and rave... > > Happy Easter... now....back to my smoking lamb chops, baking > a ham, drinking a > beer, and celebrating being free... > > Bobby Whitehead > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Bill Tobin > To: John Hasty ; > Michael Porter > Cc: fot@autox.team.net > Sent: Sun, March 31, 2013 12:51:13 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear > > Sorry, can't resist. > My investments, which took a major fatty TWICE under Dubya, > have come back and > then some under President Obama. > And your grandchildren will still be paying for his > clusterf**k in Iraq. When I > hear him (Obama) referred to as "That N....r" my blood > boils. And I heard it > recently. > Just as Dubya (he called himself that) was my president, > Obama is indeed your > president. Live with it. > End of rant. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rwestfall@ymail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 31 13:49:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4F040409 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:49:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (fed1rmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 673E7403EB for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:49:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo110 ([68.230.241.159]) by fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130331194642.FCBZ7388.fed1rmfepo103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo110> for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:46:42 -0400 Received: from Vista ([68.110.89.224]) by fed1rmimpo110 with cox id JKmi1l0054qRjhw01KmiGh; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:46:42 -0400 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=-B5OFQNdqT0A:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=NTgSIB6fAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=ch5zjMLsnxUFytoiW2IA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=lqA02NAGceIA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=WsBVaQwGidDagCE3:21 a=xSb1t6wt4S6SwZA_:21 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: "'Bobby Whitehead'" , "'FoT Triumph'" References: <163bf.14006f3c.3e87470b@aol.com> <5156029D.5000601@dfn.com><607A04D6-C8FC-454C-8191-046120018014@gdhs.com><72C72B039EC44EB6B398E59AFC51ECB8@hpd530> <1364758761.30540.YahooMailRC@web182206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 12:46:41 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac4uR33koTnThq62S8mX+myzv/ihtwAADNGw Subject: Re: [Fot] Easter Sunday Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bobby, Check your facts. The current new spending is the lowest it has been in years. Obama's responsibility is to pay for what your beloved W. put on the national credit card. We can't get away from that. So blaming Obama for what is passed on to our grandchildren is false economics at best and outright lies at worst. Of course if you are a Teabagger, you won't look at the facts, only what suits your own agenda and disregard the rest. The Republican agenda is to continue rewarding the richest in our society with continued tax breaks and dismantle Medicare and Social Security all the while protecting the Military-Industrial Complex from any cuts that would affect their bloated budget. Joe C. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bobby Whitehead Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 12:39 PM To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] Easter Sunday Obama is our President case closed... BUT ALL our grandchildren will be paying for the debts incurred by him and his predecessors... it IS Easter Sunday, a day to reflect and honor Christ if you are a Christian... this is the last day I think we should be in a pissing match over politicians... we've got MSNBC and FOX if you want to find sides and rant and rave... Happy Easter... now....back to my smoking lamb chops, baking a ham, drinking a beer, and celebrating being free... Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: Bill Tobin To: John Hasty ; Michael Porter Cc: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Sun, March 31, 2013 12:51:13 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Sorry, can't resist. My investments, which took a major fatty TWICE under Dubya, have come back and then some under President Obama. And your grandchildren will still be paying for his clusterf**k in Iraq. When I hear him (Obama) referred to as "That N....r" my blood boils. And I heard it recently. Just as Dubya (he called himself that) was my president, Obama is indeed your president. Live with it. End of rant. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 31 16:51:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352534040C for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:51:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm9-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm9-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.249]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D31A403E7 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:51:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.192] by nm9.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2013 22:48:46 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.107] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2013 22:48:46 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1012.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2013 22:48:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 76958 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Mar 2013 22:48:46 -0000 s=s1024; t=1364770126; bh=XRU1k25VOkPViCaK5rsHdH3SiSFtllh3oGjxsB0t+3Y=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6GK8jz/HAmxzJ/Zx788VtdP28Dojbvm5XLIBMgqorvyKRmNKrfmJIrm/LrazWkKxwg7OYxJ4cXlEqT/3jcvngSyINntOLNDGsWlDbi+VOprsngZFDPMLXkotq2cEC1wvGfpjPlPfQSAyIwDwrYH+WgL52cxNY2AgIwf1sE+/XPY= s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=r5rO7okQm/MYIafWUl+pkJjaOGbXK3cNUHX1EQjSXWQrizBcDl55/nQOpLUcWza/wknPsoIshRlPzPR4TguWgHsZvDd9zzjHOv4Mo9H8c59fWaWCwOAyZkiX3QJdVWnn60UweoX7rfqAlWY4F3Xocc9pWf5mZ2gkSh/Gf7zy+Rc=; .9r1y4A81leRnfe1kz2YlVmMpUNIbdN8VxYiTB9yjs.0cU3_HYabTyvlJx.i BuTGDFgx4WtIoKiVpBxAAC.KUdLk20ZjI8XWfDLwVEwT2iFdLW6wBhSGACHT nDqwfQHrLVhlaPz9xI4eOu14Q8AtYfWtb4myKcXSkqHfrJ6mLY34jJS0OlLW tJtH.dQE5Y1c2nerxrN5I6AfkIY2_XvP.JuuykhwnNT4F05ma.z.YCwjwhD1 qJxFzBdk3YlRmgJLsu4G7ZGgQXxf0H3Ffg5TBDSGOtjTFQVHAfqGyPJkRE6o exj2Ac_SoMvyZtLImjelrPsDaU3I0Qpp57FXGQCiEUoEI1eQQ3moGOwnucZM HkbAFzmCqOm5OHvANXsylB_YtfcPuBWWDq1bzPpcekxKLA7Iq_fbk.YUP_JD UgMhP8b09vxNd2xl3I6GUS8eC_G6sxaYPNF1vqTBB70a50lT_xNO2nsx3Xz6 gIWcj6XtTAqXxwLvBVThS0BGZZP5L3Sj92khCiX1t.Ry9sKs.4h0Iii7HxPi NRLb_F91JIFcHhoIvGUO8EQwn6ZGPsSwWYpyeZ8XuYWlj0jWN3c_BOfUkzxu R6OQq8zYwVBnSeUInrKO6M_Zl2NyhTqo2R1b.y9mvEWp5acoH7GkdyZD.xMd jDiSal0EZUr3QutomhupUqx1m_3fzcznjK0kPMQEU71bJTg-- Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web181405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:48:46 PDT DQoNCi0tLSBPbiBTdW4sIDMvMzEvMTMsIEVEV0FSRCBCQVJOQVJEIDxlZHdhcmRiYXJuYXJkQHByb2RpZ3kubmV0PiB3cm90ZToNCg0KDQpGcm9tOiBFRFdBUkQgQkFSTkFSRCA8ZWR3YXJkYmFybmFyZEBwcm9kaWd5Lm5ldD4NClN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBbRm90XSBFYXN0ZXIgU3VuZGF5DQpUbzogIidCb2JieSBXaGl0ZWhlYWQnIiA8aWdvZmFzdGVyQGF0dC5uZXQ.LCAiJ0ZvVCBUcml1bXBoJyIgPGZvdEBhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldD4sICJKb2UgQ3VycnkiIDxzcGl0bGlzdEBjb3gubmV0Pg0KRGF0ZTogU3VuZGEBMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:48:46 -0700 (PDT) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Fw: Re: Easter Sunday Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --- On Sun, 3/31/13, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: From: EDWARD BARNARD Subject: Re: [Fot] Easter Sunday To: "'Bobby Whitehead'" , "'FoT Triumph'" , "Joe Curry" Date: Sunday, March 31, 2013, 5:47 PM I second the idea to stop this rant on our list. I don't care which Boob in D.C you care for or don't care for. We have little to say in where the boat is floating and who is manning the rudder. The people in D.C. do not answer to us, so there is no need for this rant here. Happy Resurrection Day! --- On Sun, 3/31/13, Joe Curry wrote: From: Joe Curry Subject: Re: [Fot] Easter Sunday To: "'Bobby Whitehead'" , "'FoT Triumph'" Date: Sunday, March 31, 2013, 2:46 PM Bobby, Check your facts. The current new spending is the lowest it has been in years. Obama's responsibility is to pay for what your beloved W. put on the national credit card. We can't get away from that. So blaming Obama for what is passed on to our grandchildren is false economics at best and outright lies at worst. Of course if you are a Teabagger, you won't look at the facts, only what suits your own agenda and disregard the rest. The Republican agenda is to continue rewarding the richest in our society with continued tax breaks and dismantle Medicare and Social Security all the while protecting the Military-Industrial Complex from any cuts that would affect their bloated budget. Joe C. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bobby Whitehead Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 12:39 PM To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] Easter Sunday Obama is our President case closed... BUT ALL our grandchildren will be paying for the debts incurred by him and his predecessors... it IS Easter Sunday, a day to reflect and honor Christ if you are a Christian... this is the last day I think we should be in a pissing match over politicians... we've got MSNBC and FOX if you want to find sides and rant and rave... Happy Easter... now....back to my smoking lamb chops, baking a ham, drinking a beer, and celebrating being free... Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: Bill Tobin To: John Hasty ; Michael Porter Cc: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Sun, March 31, 2013 12:51:13 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Sorry, can't resist. My investments, which took a major fatty TWICE under Dubya, have come back and then some under President Obama. And your grandchildren will still be paying for his clusterf**k in Iraq. When I hear him (Obama) referred to as "That N....r" my blood boils. And I heard it recently. Just as Dubya (he called himself that) was my president, Obama is indeed your president. Live with it. End of rant. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 31 17:38:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 314A740435 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:38:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0F3403D9 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:38:51 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=mLhyhlmH2BsA:10 a=NSbkRm6pAAAA:20 a=OrkHFC_fAAAA:20 a=4iEaYOv0AAAA:20 a=GhUFbbv2nwlRyIBe0cIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=m4Bfydr5ODQA:10 a=NOR5CLR6s-UA:10 a=ddZT45GQ4RAA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55010] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 1D/3D-25887-F68C8515; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 23:36:16 +0000 From: "Randall" Cc: Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:36:27 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac4tc42Sc8Gwnm1cRCSZhxscB5yZKgA9I0Wg Subject: Re: [Fot] Head Gasket Coating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FWIW, Hylomar spray is apparently still available, just not from Permatex or Valco: http://goo.gl/jE4dw http://goo.gl/mvKDc -- Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 31 19:04:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CDF7403F4 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:04:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5DB403C7 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:04:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from new-host-3.home ([108.16.249.182]) by p3plsmtpa06-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id JR2C1l0023wrvZ001R2CT0; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:02:13 -0700 From: Scott Janzen Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:02:17 -0400 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Even if we disagree on politics - Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I think we have religion in common. I myself pray regularly to Our Lady of Eternal Combustion. I'm thinking about having a bumper sticker made up: "I give generously to Our Lady of Eternal Combustion" or is that internal? Probably not eternal with a LBC! _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 31 19:14:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633FD40425 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:14:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm39-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm39-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.151]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52AC4403C7 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:12:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.148] by nm39.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Apr 2013 01:09:52 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.242] by tm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Apr 2013 01:09:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1051.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Apr 2013 01:09:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 57796 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Apr 2013 01:09:52 -0000 s=s1024; t=1364778592; bh=dKsj+7NrK7kpP6odLJjYRg1VY3HvIttkywEDjUl8tS8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=m3UXqpiy9f3wJ5b3W8HtKYMeHYl5V0UfNSLX99JH+hVvMwUBTxmwDzVSIDpykUlfKfbqQvIuULr26AHuPtTOQvOqQEY/Coptt/bFqfSiwIS3uWsjXBD/6ZTEm5K/BBja/g7+kHfxQjzVx903+LBAEvN3ewha8LvDoUh8pU32XPg= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=F9YVouHqiETQ4xo31HiNvymUq6G3LFgvxaYoHBPF0zdlpeQc0aYktgZago/mVNiIv7gmiZ2Gbqok88CqmyO0DrxnenDQoQPtW6X5HYupSKwKgb0rG3eJ8ZzmGDMciNQ4w3H3L9Jew00FIN4zchOyuISQrli2nXOrJK/8Hn9DIC0=; 1HVypc4s8TvAnZYdint7yY23F7OgDNl8R3hHOl1cD53iANFwAx00kKGFyuKj t.tgrnsXRr9oZ4cTS4sGBr7e_hjO2tcrX2fp1ER01q7Lsa.E4Dyado1l26Am B4YAKR5IrxGb9D_jFRHyeS6zO4_OLSuaals1uSabij45Y0zIHDK8CgE2EmKR VAlSaIO.o_a2dF0L9d6yoq6Fn4IKZYDeUyWGLY8uJrGE6EsiSzFexOlBLk0T oLFfcjLappq1TAZp9Vix5Hq1mUej7vjZClTG5gUF.TRPuc0qYXgEEaTUUifZ TUqanM8VoEQ86GOw0IFhyIY_FZNB7yNOgHoCHqycbOX7yPWZQiQDXLEmQPSM IMBMw7UHFRv0wr4hZAw090hDmhH7.Zz8RDhp4TWgq6geg3lmEQ1_qBMPygSL ftDVyu.0t3SCh5v.fhUFCxHVSCZPaw_uluECwd8kL1JPCkBxnIDYQcWS.TgT VOKwTRgPMOBXhot7TB477ihTkS8Vu7yvcINbJtf4XzAzFyMpzd89x4X3Cm3R TMJvLf_baQfQM4XKNioyae.Fg2FC28YUbtNSoSi6knShIBhrPiiuhM7GxYOa h.cCEdVTfm9wUVyW06jGo Received: from [75.105.247.167] by web162504.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:09:52 PDT wqAgwqAgwqBJZiB5b3UgYXJlIHVzaW5nIGEgc2hpbSBnYXNrZXQsIG1heSBJIHJlY29tbWVuZCDCoEdNIEdvb2R3cmVuY2ggZ2Fza2V0IHNlYWxpbmcgY29tcG91bmQuCldlIHN1cGVyIGdsdWUgLjAyMCBvciBsZXNzIHNvZnQgY29wcGVyIHdpcmUgaW4gdGhlIG91dGVyIHJpbmdzIGFuZCB3aXRoIGEgc21hbGwgc3BvbmdlIHBhaW50CnJvbGxlciBhcHBseSB0aGUgZ3NjLiBJdCBsb29rcyBsaWtlLCBhbiBoYXMgdGhlIGNvbnNpc3RlbmN5IG9mIENhcm1lbCB0b3BwaW5nLiBJdHMgQmVlbiBob2xkaW5nCkhpZ2gBMAEBAQE- References: <1D.3D.25887.F68C8515@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:09:52 -0700 (PDT) From: John Wagner To: Randall Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Head Gasket Coating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If you are using a shim gasket, may I recommend GM Goodwrench gasket sealing compound. We super glue .020 or less soft copper wire in the outer rings and with a small sponge paint roller apply the gsc. It looks like, an has the consistency of Carmel topping. Its Been holding High comp. chevys together since the 60's. Good Stuff and not that expensive. John Wagner Just the wrench From: Randall To: Cc: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Head Gasket Coating FWIW, Hylomar spray is apparently still available, just not from Permatex or Valco: http://goo.gl/jE4dw http://goo.gl/mvKDc -- Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/j.wags63@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 31 19:26:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7504040452 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:26:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642014040A for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:26:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.74]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 519111C00009D; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:23:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mbd003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mbd003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.31.80]) by mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0B3F7E000086; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:23:38 -0400 (EDT) References: <1364770126.73321.YahooMailClassic@web181405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: edwardbarnard@prodigy.net, fot@autox.team.net From: kkjjk@aol.com Received: from 71.255.179.85 by webmail-m292.sysops.aol.com (64.12.152.35) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:23:37 -0400 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:23:37 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364779418; bh=J60kYzKAJ7aFLBrBm2/D3HWPFlJ4c9/8yYlfM4Pr3Jw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VRBGOLCqZagmjOlXxkeGRVHTkDO+dmPk+AFSJhn93Lo7A5CHIqnK5h07/cSWvBF6/ pIqEacN1zToI/fqI7FXjwN/hCrQgrYflX/fKKvZnWLcWL7MEPeFTn1PpjAez80Qy8i Nxp0EQf9EH+yEpobh8xxiHDbaZ0oyMSHvb9806pA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294a5158e19a76ac Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Re: Easter Sunday Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Agreed. Christ is Risen. Let us rejoice and be glad in it...............Save the politics for another venue............ -----Original Message----- From: EDWARD BARNARD To: FOT Sent: Sun, Mar 31, 2013 6:48 pm Subject: [Fot] Fw: Re: Easter Sunday --- On Sun, 3/31/13, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: From: EDWARD BARNARD Subject: Re: [Fot] Easter Sunday To: "'Bobby Whitehead'" , "'FoT Triumph'" , "Joe Curry" Date: Sunday, March 31, 2013, 5:47 PM I second the idea to stop this rant on our list. I don't care which Boob in D.C you care for or don't care for. We have little to say in where the boat is floating and who is manning the rudder. The people in D.C. do not answer to us, so there is no need for this rant here. Happy Resurrection Day! --- On Sun, 3/31/13, Joe Curry wrote: From: Joe Curry Subject: Re: [Fot] Easter Sunday To: "'Bobby Whitehead'" , "'FoT Triumph'" Date: Sunday, March 31, 2013, 2:46 PM Bobby, Check your facts. The current new spending is the lowest it has been in years. Obama's responsibility is to pay for what your beloved W. put on the national credit card. We can't get away from that. So blaming Obama for what is passed on to our grandchildren is false economics at best and outright lies at worst. Of course if you are a Teabagger, you won't look at the facts, only what suits your own agenda and disregard the rest. The Republican agenda is to continue rewarding the richest in our society with continued tax breaks and dismantle Medicare and Social Security all the while protecting the Military-Industrial Complex from any cuts that would affect their bloated budget. Joe C. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bobby Whitehead Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 12:39 PM To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] Easter Sunday Obama is our President case closed... BUT ALL our grandchildren will be paying for the debts incurred by him and his predecessors... it IS Easter Sunday, a day to reflect and honor Christ if you are a Christian... this is the last day I think we should be in a pissing match over politicians... we've got MSNBC and FOX if you want to find sides and rant and rave... Happy Easter... now....back to my smoking lamb chops, baking a ham, drinking a beer, and celebrating being free... Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: Bill Tobin To: John Hasty ; Michael Porter Cc: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Sun, March 31, 2013 12:51:13 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Stations of yesteryear Sorry, can't resist. My investments, which took a major fatty TWICE under Dubya, have come back and then some under President Obama. And your grandchildren will still be paying for his clusterf**k in Iraq. When I hear him (Obama) referred to as "That N....r" my blood boils. And I heard it recently. Just as Dubya (he called himself that) was my president, Obama is indeed your president. Live with it. End of rant. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 31 19:40:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D504041D for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:40:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f177.google.com (mail-lb0-f177.google.com [209.85.217.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C00403C7 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:39:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f177.google.com with SMTP id r10so1528462lbi.22 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:37:20 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=Lo5TiZlNUFn+io/JJZ2IYNR41XHzsxtFYfhrMR0Vwyc=; b=SHpR97TdizdcT8QFA0N/CSNouuf+osKyb5hbGAjS7wlQzVGePzI5PUPjxdtKiq5Jso 1RfKfmRcj2I1wEC7RrxxhiEVq5IdfGWtQ1C+1O+O7AvbdRjqB+tkUGvELQraJecxZSct TtzGcLYIkocUYGAwQRFtaZBfcXvoW4hsPJEgyJIFxljgVEXTQpEA09iD+2XEAfm0V4fH MP1k6+P+THm6DuViXMfmMSjCOWNRj0o5yODBbu9NKDQBLsTOEL+3uQBD70ygDf3jk20p iMcmoO08+wFvj6HDmL0arRDFE8J8WXlSZRfGR1rWP980aaVNzZO5YHkX/kPk35+o695K W5Hw== Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:37:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.33.48 with HTTP; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:36:40 -0700 (PDT) References: <1D.3D.25887.F68C8515@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> <1364778592.44307.YahooMailNeo@web162504.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Kas Kastner Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:36:40 -0700 To: John Wagner , fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Head Gasket Coating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Pay attention here. The sticky part matters not much, but the copper wire literely seals the deal. Ho Ho Ho. *Never be beaten by equipment.* On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 6:09 PM, John Wagner wrote: > If you are using a shim gasket, may I recommend GM Goodwrench gasket > sealing compound. > We super glue .020 or less soft copper wire in the outer > rings and with a small sponge paint > roller apply the gsc. It looks like, an > has the consistency of Carmel topping. Its Been holding > High comp. chevys > together since the 60's. Good Stuff and not that expensive. > > > John > Wagner > Just the wrench > From: Randall > To: > Cc: > fot@autox.team.net > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 6:36 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] > Head Gasket Coating > > FWIW, Hylomar spray is apparently still available, just > not from Permatex or > Valco: > http://goo.gl/jE4dw > http://goo.gl/mvKDc > > -- > Randall > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/j.wags63@yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive