From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 1 07:08:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB9242A0C for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2013 07:08:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d08.mx.aol.com (omr-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.207]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E49D42933 for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2013 06:54:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.69]) by omr-d08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 78402700000B0; Sat, 1 Jun 2013 08:50:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 3864EE0000DE; Sat, 1 Jun 2013 08:50:13 -0400 (EDT) References: <40FA9EF2-3EFF-4062-BE83-F6C75BF663C8@gdhs.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 07:50:14 -0500 To: Stutzmans x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1370091013; bh=EeKDz/mnPBdJYv0jUFWkinG8gn9WQ4CPk1aAocQvP74=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=IpsdMU62ZAccG+lB+ki4d1XRv7RYAMBZPAmVgt7R1Iwu4hDx51Q3/DINf1s51Um6U IRiY3anq6MGrynFXe5097CVdiDax+TpIF5czsTPUa8cuBPybV8x1vqmEGziK1qdQkM fCXBUYQUxEdhS9SdCnV1paB/+Nx6Rrtv+UL7aP4w= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294551a9ee050ca7 Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Sway bar Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net There goes those pesky variables again. It seems that most of the TR3/TR4 vintage racers are set up in such a way that having a rear sway bar is not a good idea. Perhaps someone can come up with a new formula that includes a rear sway bar that makes us handle better and faster. Chris' set up includes lower spring rates in the front. We have run the MGB GT springs the front since 1993, but not afraid to change. Those are about 500 lbs. No wrong answers in this thread. Ultimately the answer lies in lots of testing and changing all of the variables. Not an option for many of us. We did hard mount the rear shackles with a bronze bushing kit and that is a clear improvement over rubber bushings for both race and street cars. Joe A Sent from my iPad On May 31, 2013, at 9:15 PM, "Stutzmans" wrote: > A bar on the rear of a TR3 usually causes the inside rear tire to lift on tight turns. > If you have a stock diff or a Quaife you may well spin. > Bruce > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hasty" > To: "Triumph 'Friends of Triumph" _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 1 08:07:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C594142A3A for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2013 08:07:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f45.google.com (mail-bk0-f45.google.com [209.85.214.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9528842A15 for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2013 08:07:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-bk0-f45.google.com with SMTP id je10so727588bkc.4 for ; Sat, 01 Jun 2013 07:03:00 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=9+v/u4RmYscE16fgPJ24aXb4hLzyQucPWvfZsY3lZ7c=; b=nBO8kd5Af75lI0n0s2B6Xi4nqUKA3dxso0MhWUgA4I3Z2xcUR7JABHsJ+n2F3vivBy TCy6OeQ8gGmc/q1UAZz4Q29q4CTZvVUnObhoKIqa+E03oobcnHZ7yO48VKcKmYoanR0p aQ6Oa54N8ySuLFvx9mEAXqA8d64rxMmbWQYi2lpbKrTPMNOG8MV2pUh7RqtXRJL71WLL Oj0WYOTC46mfmP4w57SL4vGg++sD2+ISQIcRx4XbWAPYePAkMgVD+3QikHp5Xs928cjY 9fiBus0kJQXHX3JgXWJocSvDE92OZwFoH52xGbEIOE6D1/zQDXu77YfJdLoya+cvKaeq mTGg== dr4mr4607640bkc.45.1370095376214; Sat, 01 Jun 2013 07:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home (ip-109-84-237-221.web.vodafone.de. [109.84.237.221]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hh3sm3992698bkc.5.2013.06.01.07.02.54 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 01 Jun 2013 07:02:55 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Joe Alexander'" , "'Stutzmans'" References: <40FA9EF2-3EFF-4062-BE83-F6C75BF663C8@gdhs.com> <241B94BE-EF6C-4F8F-8EB5-8F0B8F509BFC@cs.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 16:03:00 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac5eyI/W3D/xXq1MSYeiCpD8L9VQRAAB/w3A Content-Language: de Cc: 'Triumph 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Sway bar Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Since two years I'm running the MGB GT springs too and they work fine. Not too stiff. Not to forget I run 4.5 degree of camber. -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Joe Alexander Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Juni 2013 14:50 An: Stutzmans Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Betreff: Re: [Fot] Sway bar There goes those pesky variables again. It seems that most of the TR3/TR4 vintage racers are set up in such a way that having a rear sway bar is not a good idea. Perhaps someone can come up with a new formula that includes a rear sway bar that makes us handle better and faster. Chris' set up includes lower spring rates in the front. We have run the MGB GT springs the front since 1993, but not afraid to change. Those are about 500 lbs. No wrong answers in this thread. Ultimately the answer lies in lots of testing and changing all of the variables. Not an option for many of us. We did hard mount the rear shackles with a bronze bushing kit and that is a clear improvement over rubber bushings for both race and street cars. Joe A Sent from my iPad On May 31, 2013, at 9:15 PM, "Stutzmans" wrote: > A bar on the rear of a TR3 usually causes the inside rear tire to lift > on tight turns. > If you have a stock diff or a Quaife you may well spin. > Bruce > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hasty" > To: "Triumph 'Friends of Triumph" _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 1 15:36:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB8442911 for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2013 15:36:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6754287B for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2013 15:31:25 -0600 (MDT) a=F7LWL4Wnv9p2p4efJzjc/w==:17 a=9XOHBX1n8dsA:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=SWDdrR6iAFjIEF59SmgA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=aHe_ITUMsspOWRzDPqoA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=5ky9P8P5uKMHIjhu:21 a=F7LWL4Wnv9p2p4efJzjc/w==:117 Received: from [173.88.251.65] ([173.88.251.65:51750] helo=UserTHINK) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 96/6E-25428-C276AA15; Sat, 01 Jun 2013 21:27:08 +0000 From: "Jerry Van Vlack" To: "'Friends of Triumph'" Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 17:27:14 -0400 Subject: [Fot] TR4A-6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone have a reference to a Heim Joint style shock link and where to purchase it for the rear lever shocks on a 4A thru 6? Thanks, Jerry Van Vlack _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 1 18:43:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AAD342A0B for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:43:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm16.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm16.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16FF427B2 for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:37:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.105] by nm16.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2013 00:33:02 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.86] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2013 00:33:02 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1023.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2013 00:33:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 89050 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Jun 2013 00:33:01 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370133181; bh=gfGyDQk9tKVWfNsBIy6YZhqCxzx1hrfgPecZmyuAQwo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1rbpFJ3rz3Jg3eXvsCD31QHgWpjk5eHH+5SEkVMrUwY1CFBx1aQH1MXtyFqfkesbDcrnWloqPaqlREsRxSAQGaRrWwOJIgnl/Cfz1L/4GK85q9pV7kWzQe5IQncxufgUJcOFotmONHF9QgtYzaslxECvkz5M8VpbJUC3ZVr3yOo= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=a5FMWCghWHeUhY8nNzaTfS8JYWyw60exhCfbQTwDSLzXaSeMqx8KdWMrTTqdVmQwrLnHyfJ6VfKyjPSNbKX0Bv0Nd13xEd+7HPr/jiY/Hm0Ys0cBG5DJ9m/BBmC4lSLzqfcjsBH/VeavK90nzm20N1jpn9w8LgC5PO97GIXQMXk=; bkDHXB4f6IHXJiN3GGK0VOyY5QFUMyut2ftvvQTlCAavkySjxNYf5XrqPbaT wNXFzFHkFcJ_oAWbirsKYEJzH1YKtjmZxgjngxVsmMCYlLMyhaqrJNUHJ3Cz NWZRCZPv94MhcJd9iPhNVWv8Y37jNZ8lwY6KCniF9asIzqZAbNoA6yD01Qvw Yufv4Q2ckPRJJl4ODmET5u4Z7sNKOOyaiTU976D2oFVv7jRoACiZ6LJ9JA_2 _ubWctmpPxn9m9VrUa6ofaRyomED2ek9hp5fLm4wIj7b0V0MpmR_Arts8gyx 0cT4vfsuzStF22qV4zgfYBnverQ7UC3M6I.TxsXUIzvDE5t5i.UkmheKVvJ9 gB4ptzFopt6QwrMQ_1Y5MArmao6BhGHRGJvdrmhYhCVqUFPYkP8aCWZqPx8h Vz1wq17ca5LEfxoxHTTkarrI0ZIL5jz4Zokyb2OfaHVbYYRFpdYI- Received: from [99.60.75.95] by web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Jun 2013 17:33:01 PDT T0ssIGhlcmUncyBteSBxdWVzdGlvbjoKClRoZSBmYWN0b3J5IHJlY29tbWVuZGVkIHRpcmUgcHJlc3N1cmUgZm9yIGEgc3RvY2sgc3RyZWV0IFRSNiBpcyAyMiBmcm9udCBhbmQgMjYgCnJlYXIuwqDCoEl0IGFsd2F5cyBzZWVtZWQgYSBiaXQgc3RyYW5nZSB0byBtZSB0byBoYXZlIHRoZSBoZWF2aWVyIGZyb250IGVuZCB3aXRoIApjb25zaWRlcmFibHkgbGVzcyBwcmVzc3VyZSB0aGFuIHRoZSBsaWdodGVyIHJlYXIgZW5kLCBvciB3aHkgbm90IHRoZSBzYW1lIApwcmVzc3VyZSBhbGwgdGhlIHdheSBhcm91bmQBMAEBAQE- References: <6EA1EE7D454D403F9E701E9C938C66CF@gdhs.local> Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 17:33:01 -0700 (PDT) From: sherry robyn To: Fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] A different sort of tire pressure question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net OK, here's my question: The factory recommended tire pressure for a stock street TR6 is 22 front and 26 rear. It always seemed a bit strange to me to have the heavier front end with considerably less pressure than the lighter rear end, or why not the same pressure all the way around, etc, etc. Now I have a TR6 used just for autocrossing with a stock motor but with triple Webers added, Koni rear shocks with 0 degrees camber, 1 5/8 degree negative camber on the front, and 205/15 racing slicks. Should my tire pressures somewhat mirror the stock design with lower fronts than rears, etc? Right now I run 34-32 front and 30-28 rear but I'm not sure if I'm not working against myself. Should I have the front lower than the rear and should I be down in the 20s? I don't believe I have much understeer with what I am running but I also don't believe my times are as good as they should be with this set up. Thanks for any thoughts on this. Jim _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 1 18:59:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E54F42911 for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:59:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C36642808 for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:54:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.6]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 34E5F700000BB; Sat, 1 Jun 2013 20:49:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id DB4B6E0004F5; Sat, 1 Jun 2013 20:49:40 -0400 (EDT) References: From: Joe Alexander Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 19:49:39 -0500 To: Jerry Van Vlack x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1370134181; bh=Sdv2RjS2jhTqXqAIty9K9FKWr+49CNmzSfzH7YoFL1U=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=Bk/1e+O9Glzv8zXR8X53nPKZ37XszNrcDPe0Lg5ovgAxnuvGqm4NltaozpEx2e9iI 3mm7/VD5bydZzxJHpr/KbIepGkTZFAQ2L+LpInRWmPTvB7axOXRXcfKw1UUWVGjNFi GlMztNleuHTtxGcs7XXUyFhI4RT8EnVhXhJS1peU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290651aa96a433c7 Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4A-6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I made some up from off the shelf parts for my live axle TR4A chassis....Ambro. Sent from my iPad On Jun 1, 2013, at 4:27 PM, "Jerry Van Vlack" wrote: > Does anyone have a reference to a Heim Joint style shock link and where to > purchase it for the rear lever shocks on a 4A thru 6? > > Thanks, > > Jerry Van Vlack > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 1 19:23:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625AE42900 for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2013 19:23:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm4.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm4.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E40142793 for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2013 19:20:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.196] by nm4.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2013 01:16:29 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.102] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2013 01:16:29 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1007.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2013 01:16:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 12719 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Jun 2013 01:16:29 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370135789; bh=zfvJeJdsJ1O8LzrlBVPmOyIf2PpEArQhG0r+SqHtNls=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=H+q9TQliHyGbqH+Bz7SKkihDfe7z6sUe58vG1mFEZ2NhDIqs+R2lqB459355ohJ/dj4KRteLNfaYGjzBTkAOT5t5fLUvserYSpMELNIYRRaGtljtRB3wOa4+PhASfzXH57F0m70V3xrfAbBzB7LxTedoTIcHeZRY8pLrbswxUC4= s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GYWYFdPw5za4jc+oQj+ygFj4NQIdPQGaJ1p25Yi2rGT5rFJSwj5kXIgiw9TQ2g+73mlwnWWs31qdsXkL/PI9uJVU+Yxtqt8U8wZLxnZ/4jIcQFTd50O6fbXDXQbUP3n7xHmQ6uuerFWmqurcbZAv+o2KwOw9oQCsKM2OvM8/pLk=; LZmsuKHoGbdIvBl2inriZ4HI6aKiHpNyXIV5rvcLRpxdJpNiqCm_ttx4aBxg jCPZ4swyS2ZWt8JCe3JiUDwmpgOdC5T1vjtPQUrZCekI.ssd_TjRWc2jicfj T3S3x8H_Er_PPCsp0YHsrPqXZz4A7Snok0mx5a3NqicXDgy5DCxermPLIxJD rES3u8dB5F47Xc1bgDqNuP2ZNcnWjJyhMtQLEq1zXGWYI2o3WXlsBA_NWglG 1u_I7g65GW1vp5zxh7XXvD2uLDXWKdUaSJo1NfvdVNf1uUAfrSddAiFqjmdu OrUYuFihHM_KaUa8NQb5Y1gYqSQnqvi5lclZdVTjriS_0uqZ6mfvvKMETZfc BoAvyJlVWDPzDsQaGdjhi3Cz7P3oydN_QfaZvwSenxFeLXpODJNs67L0_njM r5fkK9ikVreAN1K0MMUSgZmKP.7Ub6B262S1ARQyQao5nojhX7lWCzHfTszb Zc4WL8y8gaHpwFIuLgwBbt6STyg3.ZLHctSKKOquCSavVbtOcWbzz7MjU.Jc HVc_lWzuK0J_wCiFgnWZIKDOjj0eEOFs_5F32d7YVWfieTzTpgvAG8CiC.Rn aMqNTj_g5NkHUjrGY6pdmwik56dDOzzI6GGHzCkeqFjNz7qBHYVk74MUd6r8 eKNTpWUH.fbPH5x1suD3Mb8GAtojwMfMhaLodyCWMu56UjuHSCSN9v0hbEJT 8HWuRC0emGpvAFNm2oEOvNdE_FKa_EobrSAjN__1. Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web181403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Jun 2013 18:16:29 PDT SmVycnk6DQpUaGUgaG9sZSBpbiB0aGUgYXJtIG9mIHRoZSBzaG9jayBoYXMgYSB0YXBlciB0byBtYXRjaCB0aGUgb3JpZ2luYWwgbGluay4gU3BlZWR3YXkgTW90b3JzIHNlbGxzIHRoZSB0YXBlcmVkIHBpbnMgd2l0aCB0aHJlYWRzIG9uIHRoZSBvdGhlciBlbmQgdG8gZ28gdGhyb3VnaCBhIEhlaW3CoCBqb2ludC4gVmVyeSBoYW5keSBmb3IgeW91ciByZXF1aXJlbWVudHMgb3IgZm9yIHN0ZWVyaW5nIHJvZHMsIGV0Yy4gd2hlcmUgdGFwZXJlZCBob2xlcyBhcmUgcHJlc2VudC4NCi1FZC0NCg0KLS0tIE9uIFMBMAEBAQE- Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 18:16:29 -0700 (PDT) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: 'Friends of Triumph' , Jerry Van Vlack Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4A-6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Jerry: The hole in the arm of the shock has a taper to match the original link. Speedway Motors sells the tapered pins with threads on the other end to go through a Heim joint. Very handy for your requirements or for steering rods, etc. where tapered holes are present. -Ed- --- On Sat, 6/1/13, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: From: Jerry Van Vlack Subject: [Fot] TR4A-6 To: "'Friends of Triumph'" Date: Saturday, June 1, 2013, 4:27 PM Does anyone have a reference to a Heim Joint style shock link and where to purchase it for the rear lever shocks on a 4A thru 6? Thanks, Jerry Van Vlack _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 1 20:35:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D31842808 for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2013 20:35:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5264276E for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2013 20:29:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.23.216]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MNQ00L6JUOWGY00@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for Fot@autox.team.net; Sat, 01 Jun 2013 21:24:33 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "sherry robyn" , References: <6EA1EE7D454D403F9E701E9C938C66CF@gdhs.local> <1370133181.85317.YahooMailRC@web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2013 22:24:41 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] A different sort of tire pressure question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Jim, I run shaved 205/15 TOYO RA1's, 28 psi front and rear. It seems happy. I've been experimenting with negative camber, 1 3/4 all around. We'll see how things work out, hopefully next weekend. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "sherry robyn" To: Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 8:33 PM Subject: [Fot] A different sort of tire pressure question > OK, here's my question: > > The factory recommended tire pressure for a stock > street TR6 is 22 front and 26 > rear. It always seemed a bit strange to me to > have the heavier front end with > considerably less pressure than the lighter > rear end, or why not the same > pressure all the way around, etc, etc. > > Now I > have a TR6 used just for autocrossing with a stock motor but with triple > Webers added, Koni rear shocks with 0 degrees camber, 1 5/8 degree > negative > camber on the front, and 205/15 racing slicks. Should my tire pressures > somewhat mirror the stock design with lower fronts than rears, etc? > > Right > now I run 34-32 front and 30-28 rear but I'm not sure if I'm not working > against myself. Should I have the front lower than the rear and should I > be > down in the 20s? I don't believe I have much understeer with what I am > running > but I also don't believe my times are as good as they should be with > this set > up. > > Thanks for any thoughts on this. Jim > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 1 20:36:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 499B2428E6 for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2013 20:36:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF4B4276E for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2013 20:34:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.23.216]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MNQ004XZUY6VV10@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Sat, 01 Jun 2013 21:30:07 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2013 22:30:15 -0400 Subject: [Fot] cam timing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ted Schumacher, I have a question about cam timing. Can you send an e-mail or give me a call? Thanks, Bill 814 398-2908 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 2 08:47:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE16403D4 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 08:47:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0BB14271B for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 08:47:26 -0600 (MDT) a=yr/eJ6S8SHGIc+/JdDlNag==:17 a=zkYuSOkxadoA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=5yZSDTBR3G0A:10 a=DJbgnjp4e1VmG4JJ81IA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=2JJEx-8j0VIO41tzSsEA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=yr/eJ6S8SHGIc+/JdDlNag==:117 Received: from [67.255.13.17] ([67.255.13.17:52140] helo=Shop) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 66/F9-18908-7F95BA15; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 14:43:04 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 10:43:00 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac5fn0vconS5gvQZT7qVehRevJZCEgAABgPA Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] question on attachments? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Can I send out an email with a PDF attachment as on this mail system? This is an announcement of the 2014 Triumph-MG Challenge. Russ Moore Spitfire #49 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 2 10:02:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A27542A20 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 10:02:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm16.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm16.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B77AE4271B for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 09:54:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.142] by nm16.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2013 15:50:18 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.212] by tm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2013 15:50:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1021.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2013 15:50:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 51759 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Jun 2013 15:50:18 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370188218; bh=C4dwv0Z8OqvoERCjH/DMezffcfcSRZm9P0vSPp/bhYg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eXPR5GeUs14fewkmJoI/5Olmr4KG6uQ8yUpBqI2a/lXetiJzjePvRFmftDltqUCKA034vzUlJIVX9/TQdJHS057SNkh6yG5Dw+TauC6wofmMYjPV58qBkq0CVW4hqRs87CV9yCjH5PIGH94mUCVd3NKIjDiLC+UlJ5Tmk0t5Yw4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JhQZOtuamsDfJNWbaGBkAHPB61BrybitmTZW5B1Id/HX/6efIfVQRqRbKqM5Z0xuItfWis8+5vRpO75itDLISj79pLtWovwIkH04yuEbJUiRTwRUC+XEv+9rPm4NBnFI4CyQLQtYhbqyjrr0Mo7x3ltsrUMCZLsZuBcdtJ+ZsJo=; 99sYpo9jbPi2yuR5oBnVuUMu28ccsZI1zeeOKHV1FUCLM7NvM6lBMr1qx1j4 IIqYejA7P8VfMWzCBMX2_v1fO9u7nexjUDP.U1OtnPNay9UzsSehrkr63amF hTSbVc3Om5qDBE2ifiiH26E92t0asspl3e2v_PecsJMzv3wTO8E8hW1_jXXq Oe742AB5kpJaks2UqMeutpRIJ1mbdCHL6wEvyeg5Nwa9xu7OcN71IhL9uv9q NcFNiNdPq8fg9.Spyax3s3y2bqXTMpWUKLCmhB3RpLzz.fIFa9tqV0p3eGlq mo6DoM1tH8e.5twPRPaixi.I2k7ivPLZgVz54adhJnem8v3YWdKVR1wIebWV kJ9czZSq5ZnZSCVNsFG.yY_eLVnRIzOVXKgd8tBHKv0SmOTzlqN.SVI0_gNo OQOVuuC2NojJI1B9OPdYRyII0VSf7m8vidMkef4aacsJyBVimTVxrUKP88nV 7aOQEuhphwZn2VuqLKSRxv1u_asfd3bf29CcPPL4zEALL Received: from [67.190.144.189] by web142401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 08:50:17 PDT PGJyLz5JIHVzZWQgY29wcGVyIGNvYXQgb24gbXkgUGF5ZW4gQUUgMzMwIGNvcHBlciBoZWFkIGdhc2tldC4gMTAgbWludXRlcyBpbnRvIHRoZSBuZXcgY2FtIHJ1biBpbiwgIHRoZSBoZWFkIHN0YXJ0ZWQgbGVha2luZyBvdXQgdGhlIERyaXZlciBzaWRlIGNvcm5lcnMuIEkgYWxzbyBoYWQgd2F0ZXIgYnViYmxpbmcgdXAgdW5kZXIgdGhlIGhlYWQgYm9sdCBudXRzIGFzIHdlbGwgb24gdG9wIG9mIHRoZSBoZWFkLiA8YnIvPjxici8.V2hlbiBJIHB1bGxlZCB0aGUgaGVhZCwgdGhlIGNvcHBlciBjb2F0IGp1c3QBMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 08:50:17 -0700 (PDT) From: tylerpthompson@yahoo.com To: Triumph Friends of Subject: [Fot] Copper Coat Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net
I used copper coat on my Payen AE 330 copper head gasket. 10 minutes into the new cam run in, the head started leaking out the Driver side corners. I also had water bubbling up under the head bolt nuts as well on top of the head.

When I pulled the head, the copper coat just wiped off. I expected it would have set up. Is this normal?

Just had the head milled so it is flat and the Payen gasket that was on there previously worked great with no coating of copper coat visible or anything else. The reason for the tear down was broken valve springs and a bad Paeco cam.

Is a head gasket sealer needed? I have pulled heads off of two other stick motors and neither had any, nor did this race motor. . Also, should water be coming up under the nuts in the head bolts?

Torque used was 105 ft lbs.

Thanks for your help.

Ty
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Mail for iPhone _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 2 11:37:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0706642A55 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 11:37:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4EF340323 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 11:37:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6321AA0795 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 11:35:38 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2013 11:35:37 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: Fot@autox.team.net References: <004b01ce5f9f$7b0b73f0$71225bd0$@rr.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] question on attachments? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Spitfire Racing wrote: > Can I send out an email with a PDF attachment as on this mail system? > > This is an announcement of the 2014 Triumph-MG Challenge. > > > No, most of the Team.Net email lists strip off attachments. You can either put it in the Triumph forum [ link below ] or send it directly to me and I can put it where folks can easily get to it. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 2 11:51:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A4A42A28 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 11:51:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (fed1rmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBB942A0B for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 11:44:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo209 ([68.230.241.160]) by fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130602174010.RAEA25893.fed1rmfepo202.cox.net@fed1rmimpo209> for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 13:40:10 -0400 Received: from Vista ([68.110.89.224]) by fed1rmimpo209 with cox id jVgA1l00V4qRjhw01VgA4F; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 13:40:10 -0400 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:17 a=OSKKzQQCXoYA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=IpiKjvNEFOkA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=8tFgJ-YdexKswV4de9YA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=Q94xJtFWm3wA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: "'Mark J Bradakis'" , References: <004b01ce5f9f$7b0b73f0$71225bd0$@rr.com> <51AB8269.4050100@bradakis.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 10:40:10 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac5ft1bJujN7F70XSNis7W7i4FMIGwAAMrMg Subject: Re: [Fot] question on attachments? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Or post it to a web site and link to it. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 10:36 AM To: Fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] question on attachments? Spitfire Racing wrote: > Can I send out an email with a PDF attachment as on this mail system? > > This is an announcement of the 2014 Triumph-MG Challenge. > > > No, most of the Team.Net email lists strip off attachments. You can either put it in the Triumph forum [ link below ] or send it directly to me and I can put it where folks can easily get to it. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 2 11:53:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359B542A59 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 11:53:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A96E42A0B for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 11:46:25 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=vVgdABl6p0W5ah9lmdMOJQ==:17 a=eL5FVsg7Q3UA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=WDoBxDV8V-MA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=P7nYNjjUbzCgvPLlOGEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=vVgdABl6p0W5ah9lmdMOJQ==:117 Received: from [166.137.150.179] ([166.137.150.179:50079] helo=[10.78.71.152]) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id BD/66-22496-CE38BA15; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 17:42:04 +0000 References: <1370188217.50995.YahooMailIosMobile@web142401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Bob Kramer Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 12:42:01 -0500 To: "tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" Cc: Triumph Friends of Subject: Re: [Fot] Copper Coat Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ty I use copper coat. I scrub the gasket with a green scotch brite pad to give it some bite. I do a few thin coats. This is all done after a pre assembly matching up the locating holes; the ones that need the studs screwed in to line up the gasket. Any crinkling by the studs will be an issue. Some guys use Gaskacinch around the lifter cavities but I haven't needed it. I make sure to set it up as perfect as I can and I check protrusion with the head lightly bolted down sans gasket. Look for pulled up threads in the block. Older blocks weren't chamfered and the threads pull up. That usually is time to move on to another block, but time-serts may restore the threads to satisfactory condition. Have you checked side to side liner protrusion? If the block has been decked it is a likely problem. The deck is not matched to the oil pan surface and machine shops will not match the deck to the figure 8 lands without some serious discussion. Another reason and cheaper to move on to another block. Get those figure 8 lands perfect. I use a red scotch brite wheel they sell at Walmart and a lot of screwdriver and razor blade time. There is also the threads down deep in the block to worry about. Any torque issue from pulling threads can cause this problem. FWIW I use stock studs with 104 torque and the Payen gaskets. Bob Kramer Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2013, at 10:50 AM, tylerpthompson@yahoo.com wrote: >
I used copper coat on my Payen AE 330 copper head gasket. 10 minutes into the new cam run in, the head started leaking out the Driver side corners. I also had water bubbling up under the head bolt nuts as well on top of the head.

When I pulled the head, the copper coat just wiped off. I expected it would have set up. Is this normal?

Just had the head milled so it is flat and the Payen gasket that was on there previously worked great with no coating of copper coat visible or anything else. The reason for the tear down was broken valve springs and a bad Paeco cam.

Is a head gasket sealer needed? I have pulled heads off of two other stick motors and neither had any, nor did this race motor. . Also, should water be coming up under the nuts in the head bolts?

Torque used was 105 ft lbs.

Thanks for your help.

Ty
Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 2 12:26:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D901042AB7 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 12:26:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09CA442A49 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 12:26:02 -0600 (MDT) a=yr/eJ6S8SHGIc+/JdDlNag==:17 a=zkYuSOkxadoA:10 a=hLGTTIrd7FAA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=6yjQQvWTjMQA:10 a=F0NCXzAMAAAA:8 a=_3YWFf-PCbBaYAeMBNsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=j_pk5OzufntGnl_IRMMA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=yr/eJ6S8SHGIc+/JdDlNag==:117 Received: from [67.255.13.17] ([67.255.13.17:53885] helo=Shop) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id FF/B1-18908-53D8BA15; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 18:21:42 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 14:21:38 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac5fvgXgTUaoAPjnSu2XPcZhFaGLSg== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] Announcing the Triumph/MG Challenge at Mosport Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a year away but I wanted folks to be able to plan ahead if they wanted to attend. Mosport is my favorite track of all I have ever been to and the border crossing into Canada is an easy one. The very first race held on this track was won by a TR-3 so there's some significance to us staging this event there. I anticipate a good turnout of competitors as well as club participation from both sides of the border with events and attractions for all. More information will be forthcoming as soon as the website is up and some details are finalized and approved. Russ Moore Spitfire #49 Please see flyer at: http://www.cwnicholls.net/fot/mosport _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 2 13:09:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07C842AD5 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 13:09:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35E942A6E for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 13:00:21 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=BvERuvG47M6IgwANVgHassSl1aDO/RU8Ic5cpnRi7rqC/v2zfSehHQGUbsEnCgf6; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Cc:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.35] (helo=elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1UjDRg-0007QL-Kr; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 14:56:00 -0400 Received: from 108.64.186.7 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 14:56:00 -0400 Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 11:56:00 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: steve To: tylerpthompson@yahoo.com Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Copper Coat Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've had success using Kopper Kote (I think that's their funny way to spell it.) I cleaned the gasket and top of the block first with lacquer thinner and let it dry. Then I hung the gasket by a coat hanger and gave it a thin coat on each side. I let it dry for about 15 minutes and did it again. I repeated this until I had 3 coats. (wear a mask while spraying) Finally, I placed the gasket on the head (without the studs, then hand threaded each stud (ARP) into the stud holes. ~Steve -----Original Message----- >From: tylerpthompson@yahoo.com >Sent: Jun 2, 2013 8:50 AM >To: Triumph Friends of >Subject: [Fot] Copper Coat > >
I used copper coat on my Payen AE 330 copper head gasket. 10 minutes into the new cam run in, the head started leaking out the Driver side corners. I also had water bubbling up under the head bolt nuts as well on top of the head.

When I pulled the head, the copper coat just wiped off. I expected it would have set up. Is this normal?

Just had the head milled so it is flat and the Payen gasket that was on there previously worked great with no coating of copper coat visible or anything else. The reason for the tear down was broken valve springs and a bad Paeco cam.

Is a head gasket sealer needed? I have pulled heads off of two other stick motors and neither had any, nor did this race motor. . Also, should water be coming up under the nuts in the head bolts?

Torque used was 105 ft lbs.

Thanks for your help.

Ty
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Mail for iPhone >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 2 16:18:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4A342B17 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 16:18:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm19-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18F440533 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 16:18:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.96] by nm19.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2013 22:14:23 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.66] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2013 22:14:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1003.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2013 22:14:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 32522 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Jun 2013 22:14:23 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370211263; bh=pLY5NHyENI4nvDUCPo/ZeF+emPvYCoWKR5aWx7AYZ2s=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1iAqSieSOPi7EzAv1RgNX/i4GP6UXFtkGjYhNqHaAXg24jiQD5UDxWz6mViQJ8q+Najpycz3ggGKmTsTfeX/YebNi89FvoTOUtH/ZKqzMSz1scytCAGOzwrge5RhhzVlxTOjyjXnLAHFSMSII2kRhmnrcRzmVmmEo6nbeukANrw= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SxRoDvZrrzuzPnACgGQy7heljt7iX8vuPuDecVvDvxCcyMi5lUvG5XaQAceMxABkmD2CpqDMoPQ4/A5EAnblsBa80IlOIgl1LkMokSRM3BjBHYfFHhzkqXF2O9oneIAuYQKbSVHdT9bLMLkN0cgBzuE44/jKicP+5Bl2QrSu9lI=; wNunNtDR0xOoI5CU5.A97zZZRRnruAX7MRnsYZa6Z0IMygZRyJi7N.z04WYO NkcdRDDiRfcaYe8PBkKVK1Xdchj3DjJv1SyiHADiH9qBYd6srY2e2VceajyQ C5mO4wmEZLNuQUclOUNZ5bbA1eT5LhPxyluc2l6ys4XHa2tnYFZof0AqRGaN n9_yW3bY0R2uW2ivpt4JVmVsucY1hI9AEHgOKyCHdGEn3OA5s8v39o40DjJL .ALtcruNTpG9TsL8yGW96sr76S8_iTrGOaLTjjGl6yvpB.QjqwdIplNSfXF5 Ic3G9u0Euuv7G9QMXWhgb30RcInmimQMeliPPMvJbr6z.InThSHpzXcU4kWT HQwNfMANtX6xdryLPMhZzyihIbow70gyE071W9lYFjU7g4KACfQV8B5h9iXu .FA7HSJU5RuGbUZ4dbX.1K599Ks_vrvQ88.bJ_saTJZHSxxAhDgVsR2Ud8Oy 0wCWmAqL8eBcIdwNSWAb7ZQHNgig- Received: from [99.60.75.95] by web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 15:14:23 PDT V2l0aCBteSBUUjYgb24gYSBzd2VlcGluZyB0dXJuLCBpZiBJJ20gZ29pbmcgZmFzdCBlbm91Z2ggdGhhdCB0aGUgY2FyIHNob3VsZCBiZSAKc2xpZGluZyAod2hlcmUgYW55IG1vcmUgd291bGQgY2F1c2UgaXQgdG8gY29tZSBhcm91bmQgYWthIHNwaW5vdXQpLCBpdCB3aWxsIAppbnZhcmlhYmx5IHN0YXJ0wqBhIHNvcnQgb2YgaG9wcGluZyBhbG9uZyBzaWRld2F5cy7CoCBUaGVzZSBhcmUgdmVyeSBzaG9ydCBob3BzIAphbG1vc3QgbGlrZSBhIHZlcnkgc2V2ZXJlIHZpYnJhdGlvbi7CoCBXaGVuIHRoaXMgc3QBMAEBAQE- References: <40FA9EF2-3EFF-4062-BE83-F6C75BF663C8@gdhs.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 15:14:23 -0700 (PDT) From: sherry robyn To: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] What causes the hopping? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net With my TR6 on a sweeping turn, if I'm going fast enough that the car should be sliding (where any more would cause it to come around aka spinout), it will invariably start a sort of hopping along sideways. These are very short hops almost like a very severe vibration. When this starts, it is not easy to break out of it so it is a big time waster. Does anyone have any idea exactly what this hopping is, what causes it, or what fixes it? Thanks for any thoughts on this. Jim _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 2 16:31:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B348A42AF9 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 16:31:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F306A42A72 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 16:24:06 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=vVgdABl6p0W5ah9lmdMOJQ==:17 a=eL5FVsg7Q3UA:10 a=iHly9jF9eXQA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=YjfksnfPB04A:10 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=ptsdIhZy-Q0kW7xk4tcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=vVgdABl6p0W5ah9lmdMOJQ==:117 Received: from [166.137.150.179] ([166.137.150.179:59332] helo=[10.78.71.152]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 7A/33-25428-DF4CBA15; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 22:19:44 +0000 References: <40FA9EF2-3EFF-4062-BE83-F6C75BF663C8@gdhs.com> <1370211263.96323.YahooMailRC@web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> From: Bob Kramer Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 17:19:38 -0500 To: sherry robyn Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] What causes the hopping? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I would suspect that if you are running stock axles they are in a bind, not sliding in as the suspension compresses. Bob Kramer Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2013, at 5:14 PM, sherry robyn wrote: > With my TR6 on a sweeping turn, if I'm going fast enough that the car should > be > sliding (where any more would cause it to come around aka spinout), it > will > invariably start a sort of hopping along sideways. These are very short > hops > almost like a very severe vibration. When this starts, it is not easy > to break > out of it so it is a big time waster. > > Does anyone have any idea > exactly what this hopping is, what causes it, or what > fixes it? > > Thanks for > any thoughts on this. Jim > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 2 16:47:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B618942B2B for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 16:47:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d07.mx.aol.com (omr-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72FA40568 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 16:44:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.70]) by omr-d07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id D2574700000BF; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 18:39:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.152.249.115] (unknown [166.137.85.32]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 0C35DE0000B7; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 18:39:49 -0400 (EDT) References: <40FA9EF2-3EFF-4062-BE83-F6C75BF663C8@gdhs.com> <1370211263.96323.YahooMailRC@web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <6EADB9C7-5641-4B03-A32E-14287ECBC1B1@austin.rr.com> From: Christopher Bock Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 18:39:47 -0400 To: Bob Kramer x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1370212789; bh=+N0NMIQDoCABj8jfUfj7j8fp0PBVw4kFoQQ4Rlm3IaU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=hnSEfVN3F9YqFe26RISH++/3htAHqZeU9HD0hLpP0WOBhhKmmaEv6itG2iUrP32Ow ZtdQzpzO8at3vZM15R08cm3nWYoiAu4ZTxLhncoFL70DaB9q+bxSi1mDy6AhtF2T+w Y00yOPzzEUgJbXlxv/N3gmnJIW/AtUpFrNPnBEBM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294651abc9b46159 Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] What causes the hopping? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Maybe put a camera on the suspension and see what is happening? It is just an idea because I have no idea what is happening Chris On Jun 2, 2013, at 6:19 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: > I would suspect that if you are running stock axles they are in a bind, not > sliding in as the suspension compresses. > > Bob Kramer > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 2, 2013, at 5:14 PM, sherry robyn wrote: > >> With my TR6 on a sweeping turn, if I'm going fast enough that the car > should >> be >> sliding (where any more would cause it to come around aka spinout), it >> will >> invariably start a sort of hopping along sideways. These are very short >> hops >> almost like a very severe vibration. When this starts, it is not easy >> to break >> out of it so it is a big time waster. >> >> Does anyone have any idea >> exactly what this hopping is, what causes it, or what >> fixes it? >> >> Thanks for >> any thoughts on this. Jim >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 2 20:28:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E4942BAC for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 20:28:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f170.google.com (mail-qc0-f170.google.com [209.85.216.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0121140E1A for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 20:27:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f170.google.com with SMTP id s11so1896678qcw.15 for ; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 19:23:27 -0700 (PDT) h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=caN8iFe2c9osDPBsbGnoavYQJrNYLZJNjqLUj1IGrPo=; b=lfzh2ug1j/X/JHpektZl46WLSzgVEWrIZkwiSh7ooeKQwK/5sOkNq+c/6qdHUc4pd0 VUbD/HZE6LGcyED+ykU1OAMuXUK6M8U8YHD9W4q829JUuuF8ra0JnKqsJOrDXh6nLXxe SpghCf5OXLvHdAiVeuFWr+RI4xPf9PTAMVPZE6i25IvjRglyD7OK7bfWTkh/z8krGn3X 43vdBDNdOM4ro/AsWVPTJdgKUlNa9xMpsGKKVUND5+XcBQrRD4CWpukwmS1sPfT0yXka sq1SKVQbVu9+h4TnIkkYJwHjwt0Gq8cWv4IKT5SnCrGGySXeWqpOPCfcfbKyWqRve4EE STtg== le6mr19787593qeb.59.1370226207259; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 19:23:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id y14sm56959727qac.0.2013.06.02.19.23.25 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 02 Jun 2013 19:23:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 21:23:22 -0500 References: <40FA9EF2-3EFF-4062-BE83-F6C75BF663C8@gdhs.com> <1370211263.96323.YahooMailRC@web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> To: sherry robyn Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] What causes the hopping? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sounds like it's the rear you're talking about. Bushings? Tire pressures need adjustment? Shocks worn out? Duncan (Morgan Plus 4 -- I'm a solid axle guy) On Jun 2, 2013, at 5:14 PM, sherry robyn wrote: > With my TR6 on a sweeping turn, if I'm going fast enough that the car should > be > sliding (where any more would cause it to come around aka spinout), it > will > invariably start a sort of hopping along sideways. These are very short > hops > almost like a very severe vibration. When this starts, it is not easy > to break > out of it so it is a big time waster. > > Does anyone have any idea > exactly what this hopping is, what causes it, or what > fixes it? > > Thanks for > any thoughts on this. Jim > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 2 20:41:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3388A42B9A for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 20:41:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E58F142B4F for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 20:40:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id jcbZ1l0070cQ2SLADecRnW; Mon, 03 Jun 2013 02:36:25 +0000 Received: from Bud ([67.164.120.205]) by omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id jecQ1l00J4RzRTX8WecQhY; Mon, 03 Jun 2013 02:36:25 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "'Duncan Charlton'" , "'sherry robyn'" References: <40FA9EF2-3EFF-4062-BE83-F6C75BF663C8@gdhs.com> <1370211263.96323.YahooMailRC@web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <9EA808A8-5336-47B1-97CC-2A95403F5174@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 19:36:23 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac5gAWoAk77iC+oMTH+YCkJreJWVoAAAZtxA Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1370226985; bh=H4CmePsvKxo+K82TlKAHLoIZ9WOkNTo6E5lXKfq/Yjk=; h=Received:Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nnqoiVP0+L93WKlHipqKdQRZfjnmJ7laZhIW8snDmM1loKkBr/DLxbz8OiyigA0ZA n0tSj8aIW7fpXhKbPUfALhS1BwdZ1ReoliRlIjEOsZh7/10tsNm9Gr3EM7bLPIwbft zEldx8Hp1sUYoz9jKnRnO/zfQ7etzxYZoacKCwjOTjV9c49FN7UoI4PbvbsBSGNp7o BDSQMjfRnu8J87kAYDprlgB2ST2jOTf712vgmrKbpu5Jla9w5/m/Pzwb1E0HTzDy1I 1JYUPI+SI/NHVPht1xJhcjIE4IpfxQwTqoUNkrBfsQyRC7lvhcSM0Dl4F4SgAPcwt0 4F7Vc0vlKDz4g== Cc: 'Triumph 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] What causes the hopping? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Perhaps your differential is slipping? RB -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Duncan Charlton Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 7:23 PM To: sherry robyn Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] What causes the hopping? Sounds like it's the rear you're talking about. Bushings? Tire pressures need adjustment? Shocks worn out? Duncan (Morgan Plus 4 -- I'm a solid axle guy) On Jun 2, 2013, at 5:14 PM, sherry robyn wrote: > With my TR6 on a sweeping turn, if I'm going fast enough that the car should > be > sliding (where any more would cause it to come around aka spinout), it > will invariably start a sort of hopping along sideways. These are > very short hops almost like a very severe vibration. When this > starts, it is not easy to break out of it so it is a big time waster. > > Does anyone have any idea > exactly what this hopping is, what causes it, or what fixes it? > > Thanks for > any thoughts on this. Jim > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 2 23:00:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538DE42BA6 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 23:00:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF00A40562 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 22:55:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E9B3A0795 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 22:54:01 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2013 22:54:01 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph References: <40FA9EF2-3EFF-4062-BE83-F6C75BF663C8@gdhs.com> <1370211263.96323.YahooMailRC@web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] What causes the hopping? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net sherry robyn wrote: > With my TR6 on a sweeping turn, if I'm going fast enough that the car should > be > sliding (where any more would cause it to come around aka spinout), it > will > invariably start a sort of hopping along sideways. These are very short > hops > almost like a very severe vibration. When this starts, it is not easy > to break > out of it so it is a big time waster. > I'll also go for the binding splines on the axles, often reported on both street and racing IRS Triumphs. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 3 06:14:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8520342C87 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 06:14:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f177.google.com (mail-ie0-f177.google.com [209.85.223.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963D44052D for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 06:07:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f177.google.com with SMTP id u16so7201404iet.8 for ; Mon, 03 Jun 2013 05:03:24 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=pbuenJDj0d+/aKm7WFR7B4a7CnjZ/73XcO1EoWoG+zM=; b=Zr4bqtfzN1HrNqDRq6RmaDZCmjyC0Of2YOEV8E+Mw4Csem8Vo4hm2WsI6QBHNse2UA I8JADqkfAZJ1cndET55pxtY3q/Noo5+UKKal5OeA/bAzRYKbbOq9IiReQVVzcRvNlHFI GP6mXM2x2yfG3Ld7kVIm0mAS1yksm6hG5JZXeZdhS1BvxqtSJgVirOrC+CzmuvPJqODJ EYcsQf6237OeT9McbO024WDcPES9AHiFX9s14YTwJWQxzu0w/g89tYvEaVG+NfJ5Gprc lGBXk/jddEFGxHUnG/Ar6/PcmiDNodianX8EWTEhOvlLpvTguZSCDniRRXbR3rM7f+Fh y9Cw== cy7mr7572413igc.97.1370261004216; Mon, 03 Jun 2013 05:03:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.26.132 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 05:02:44 -0700 (PDT) References: <40FA9EF2-3EFF-4062-BE83-F6C75BF663C8@gdhs.com> <1370211263.96323.YahooMailRC@web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <51AC2169.10001@bradakis.com> From: Don Marshall Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 08:02:44 -0400 To: "Triumph 'Friends of Triumph" Subject: Re: [Fot] What causes the hopping? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You didn't say what tires you're using. I experienced this some years ago when I put some high performance street radials on the TR4A while we were waiting on Hoosier to bring out the new Speedsters. A race tire expert at BFG told me it was the tread alternately gripping and then letting loose that caused the hopping sensation. It went away when I changed to the Speedsters. Don sherry robyn wrote: > >> With my TR6 on a sweeping turn, if I'm going fast enough that the car >> should >> be sliding (where any more would cause it to come around aka spinout), it >> will invariably start a sort of hopping along sideways. These are very >> short >> hops almost like a very severe vibration. When this starts, it is not >> easy >> to break out of it so it is a big time waster. >> >> _____ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 3 10:08:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C100942E7A for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 10:08:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA2F42DFF for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 10:06:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id jpul1l0050QuhwU58s2QJ9; Mon, 03 Jun 2013 16:02:24 +0000 Received: from [10.198.156.26] ([166.137.183.195]) by omta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id js1e1l0174DMn463Ns1nct; Mon, 03 Jun 2013 16:02:19 +0000 References: <40FA9EF2-3EFF-4062-BE83-F6C75BF663C8@gdhs.com> <1370211263.96323.YahooMailRC@web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <9EA808A8-5336-47B1-97CC-2A95403F5174@gmail.com> <002401ce6003$243451a0$6c9cf4e0$@net> From: James Gray Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 10:01:35 -0600 To: "budscars@comcast.net" s=q20121106; t=1370275344; bh=My/r5WHaSpu4Pmk/6R2VySwNgZCX7XgbXUlE7ShfiuM=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=bYfffECVDTit6U8H9yaB6X0hNknJt2JU5q6+UrfGpdGumLUA9Czj8h/Y0IiXSzLBp UxHx6Xx7ihqDohcpwocLaZa1OCvQWsfx9W4tYr8tm2sYqje9IJGT6LMjfwG5m3plC/ wuglJTEKZ8zIyqQUhJMuSWXZAQQYYXECwwEA8wan2Kav2p6kOvAIQUFBYV9VTWz9my Vm2LMwB4rsZKGSqB8Y/EvAqpfvVmqOp5+jkv2NERu1VAYZ/6m7WPSH8+JfoNyS0ZhD J9KieXY0GlVMeZk8IwvJH9YEWrh0RH3WvB7T+1PpxwWQ/MccZB4BK1YpWsxLmCil6A rJhmr6rsiijCw== Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] What causes the hopping? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net For my first two seasons I used the original half shafts I never experienced spline lock. They were always well lubed. I now have CV axles. The problem described could be a few different issues at play all at once. I wouldn't rule out spline lock as a contributor. The absence of a rear sway bar may be part of it. I use a 3/4" bar on the rear. A properly set up IRS car should not lift The inside rear wheel. Shock dampening is another. Check your splines for lubrication and give the back end a couple of bounces By hand and see how fast it rebounds. There is a document on line somewhere called Smithees bounce test that explains a lot about compression & rebound dampening. Jim g Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2013, at 8:36 PM, "RACER BUD" wrote: > Perhaps your differential is slipping? > RB > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Duncan Charlton > Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 7:23 PM > To: sherry robyn > Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph > Subject: Re: [Fot] What causes the hopping? > > Sounds like it's the rear you're talking about. Bushings? Tire pressures > need adjustment? Shocks worn out? > > Duncan > (Morgan Plus 4 -- I'm a solid axle guy) > > > On Jun 2, 2013, at 5:14 PM, sherry robyn wrote: > >> With my TR6 on a sweeping turn, if I'm going fast enough that the car > should >> be >> sliding (where any more would cause it to come around aka spinout), it >> will invariably start a sort of hopping along sideways. These are >> very short hops almost like a very severe vibration. When this >> starts, it is not easy to break out of it so it is a big time waster. >> >> Does anyone have any idea >> exactly what this hopping is, what causes it, or what fixes it? >> >> Thanks for >> any thoughts on this. Jim >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 3 11:14:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EFB442E8A for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 11:14:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.159]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0157942E87 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 11:13:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Charly (unknown [97.126.73.217]) (Authenticated sender: charly@mitchelplumbing.com) by smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id DF8B95D80D4; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 12:09:32 -0500 (CDT) From: "Charly Mitchel" To: "Jerry Van Vlack" , "'Friends of Triumph'" References: Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 10:09:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4A-6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net When I did mine, I drilled out the taper, got a standard size heim joint and some threaded rod with nuts on it to lock it to the heim joint and both sides of the trailing arm. This works really well as you can adjust it to fir you springs and suspension travel, I also have adjustable lever shocks . Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Van Vlack" To: "'Friends of Triumph'" Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 2:27 PM Subject: [Fot] TR4A-6 > Does anyone have a reference to a Heim Joint style shock link and where to > purchase it for the rear lever shocks on a 4A thru 6? > > Thanks, > > Jerry Van Vlack > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.3343 / Virus Database: 3184/6371 - Release Date: 05/31/13 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 3 13:36:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A98430E6 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 13:36:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77BD43053 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 13:35:54 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rdavis4@cfl.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=nJQpkCUG-YYA:10 a=QcuixtvvKNS9yI4JNxkA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=4wzNo4MLVjUCJ5CAnLKiXw==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.129] ([10.127.132.129:47525] helo=cdptpa-web38.mail.rr.com) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 3F/52-22496-01FECA15; Mon, 03 Jun 2013 19:31:28 +0000 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 19:31:28 +0000 From: To: fot@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal Subject: [Fot] Weber DCOE 9 carb question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In the course of rebuilding a set of Weber dcoe 9 carbs I noticed two holes in the bottom of the sump, in the corners, on either side of the accelerator inlet valve. Using compressed air, one hole lets air out the top of the carb and the other does nothing. This is the case for both carbs and the same hole in both carbs. Is this normal for one hole to be open and the other not open? Bob _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 3 21:35:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03D94442EB for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 21:35:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy9.bluehost.com (oproxy9.bluehost.com [69.89.24.6]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0956A442CC for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 21:26:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 4714 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jun 2013 03:21:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO just64.justhost.com) (173.254.28.64) by oproxy9.bluehost.com with SMTP; 4 Jun 2013 03:21:53 -0000 Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=54574 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ujhom-0006N2-U9 for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 03 Jun 2013 21:21:53 -0600 Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2013 22:21:49 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: [Fot] Bristol 403 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have a client who knows I'm into cars that is looking at a 1953 Bristol 403. Cool looking car. Anyone on the list know anything about Bristols or know of internet / e-mail resources for them? Thanks, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 4 02:48:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08510431F0 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 02:48:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m08.mx.aol.com (omr-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.222.129]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9671A4431D for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 02:44:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.129]) by omr-m08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id C28D17004C8EE; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 04:39:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 76B3FE0000D8; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 04:39:13 -0400 (EDT) References: <20130604033839.DDEE54324B@autox.team.net> From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 03:39:12 -0500 To: Tony Drews x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1370335153; bh=G8ka182bkP69H/7el27RJ4idPKlmjxrju7Xoh7a8pfM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=LYT0OQt0Y4LQzXf9ImsXihj4QkKkcpyW6rV3ZCkEQ7/FbdeSDc18i0SkmKHE4UGfZ qmPmbdGcqwRdU1b0k/B/8tFyJmS2NHlROgEWDl9hu62POV6T5agSxfN7vGsiX8Q0vH +Ugek5eG3wuRFmv7CcGoF/3z6ge3kAwi1dw9xVMw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338151ada7b15c66 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Bristol 403 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I took a cross country trip in a Bristol 403. There are two sedans in Iowa and an Arnolt-Brisolt, too. The 403s can be very expensive. They were an essentially hand built car and mostly to advance order. A lot of BMW content from the spoils of WWII. LH vs RH drive? I think there was one in WI for sale recently... Maybe 200 built....this is all from memory. Sent from my iPad On Jun 3, 2013, at 10:21 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > I have a client who knows I'm into cars that is looking at a 1953 Bristol 403. Cool looking car. Anyone on the list know anything about Bristols or know of internet / e-mail resources for them? > > Thanks, Tony Drews > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 4 05:29:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC204436D for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 05:29:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc2-s11.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s11.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2D6442F0 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 05:29:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY164-DS3 ([65.54.190.123]) by bay0-omc2-s11.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 4 Jun 2013 04:24:43 -0700 From: "Terry Stetler" To: , "Tony Drews" References: <20130604033533.E8FAA442DE@autox.team.net> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 07:24:41 -0400 Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 07:24:41 -0400 FILETIME=[1C7F90A0:01CE6116] Subject: Re: [Fot] Bristol 403 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The Bristol automobile was a split off of the old Bristol Aeroplane Company, after WW2. The early cars, like the 403 were very aerodynamic for their time, and were powered by the famous "Bristol" inline 6. The engine was essentially the pre WW2 BMW 6, the design and tooling for which were given to Bristol as war booty. This engine was also used in some AC Ace and Aceca cars. Because of their aero, this largish car was capable of a genuine 100+ mph. It was an advanced touring car really, what we might call now a "Gentleman's Express". They used theit own engine for a number of years, then switched to V8 power sourced from Chrysler in the US. Bristol sold vehicles from their single, factory owned showroom in London. It was their only dealer in the world. They were in business until very recently, and their fate is now somewhat murky, but they seem to still have some parts availability for all the older cars. There is a North American Bristol Club, google is your friend here. I have always been fascinated by them and would like one myself at some point. Terry Stetler ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 11:21 PM Subject: [Fot] Bristol 403 I have a client who knows I'm into cars that is looking at a 1953 Bristol 403. Cool looking car. Anyone on the list know anything about Bristols or know of internet / e-mail resources for them? Thanks, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tlizzard@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 4 14:21:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136B640534 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 14:21:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm30.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm30.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C4E40442 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 14:21:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.200] by nm30.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2013 20:16:34 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.103] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2013 20:16:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2013 20:16:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 61794 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jun 2013 20:16:33 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370376993; bh=eOpWYfhWZT3Az77ZeagvWqea8P0ewFfd8gvd2YozIwQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Y5+gYEwd6lCtoilnujTgZAYaYx2ZC00/NR9OjTIQyyfWTInxpYjlNE2V4boTQDPjT+uKJxlbTBX8FWfOO+mCQphBJeWQOmDiD4QhiGaJHQgwnTZ73SpfVVp2lbTdeZyRAmZGwih3qCk6+8hmuKch2pKx3yexwKaaRt9dm9gx6KU= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=g7wzZelO3HZLAMlVcKJ57pVjbYFPtnIqYeoDQliATG5fDzXH1xNI5ChcUgs+V5E5i5/KsdTzzI6qtHWnyoOSzS/kWiPSg8auYRSBw7aSeaeYgke/9kP/ptWV3wra4XdVHsZ4FR/gSMQsWoJHB3uZmiicfnJFT5/eVgCGRA+YzFU=; nW9ZYSifH11L6ZF8b33uNxpWz.7smdKl9fnkaDkLC_i7PDA07SeP8FFEQUdj b5wREGMbiVYddjgKXdMERjhwCJFsG4Cpvvgn8bOY9DybHskuzaERNq0Jdu1k AN7wlKNGrYVGcVHPArqAASko_GOyOUPCoGjHFvpai1_gGdeKSbZ8EU77e4XN TTaA4pD7LgwKwv4ZG0mRBpeiLCT77Dpy20r5SmfgeUib3mTcJ8THc9BriVkE QOBEW5tsnH_frAhZrf2CRzmjebeWJ3ECfj_4zevlJRELA3y8Ibof3.11fU0f ZxqG8h4VOJ_qXERwzvp.3O2Blvn4H2WP7nyd7GzomTguJ8UPdsK_N9m2Z.N_ oVyAtMPLk5fhRiPPIrxCHyZRW2xwMKdnAtgHrvJCXbkqLCjqijeiOoQjJfWc MN6wAVGXS26XFKW9rrKGGvcnO4UEotFVe.77_HQo.omNkjYwX_M.JcPbtqCR eaYihjFTQnlnsWKlF Received: from [68.165.86.214] by web182206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Jun 2013 13:16:33 PDT YmVlbiBhIGxhcHNlIGluIG15IHByZXNlbmNlIG9uIHRoZSBGb1QuLi4uICAgIHdlJ3ZlIGJlZW4gbW92aW5nLi4uICAgYXJnaC4uLi4gICAKSSBoYWQgYSBtaXNoYXAgaW4gbXkgR1RBIGNhciBhdCB0aGUgU0NDQSB3ZWVrZW5kIGluIENvbGxlZ2UgU3RhdGlvbiBUZXhhcyBhdCAKVFdTLi4uICAgQU5EIEkndmUgYmVlbiB3aXRob3V0IGludGVybmV0IGZvciBhIGNvdXBsZSBvZiB3ZWVrcy4uLi4gIHNvIGVpdGhlciBhIApibGVzc2luZyBiZWNhdXNlIEknbSBzdWNoIGEgY2hhdHRlciBib3ggYW5kIHRoZXJlIHcBMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 13:16:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] missing in action Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net been a lapse in my presence on the FoT.... we've been moving... argh.... I had a mishap in my GTA car at the SCCA weekend in College Station Texas at TWS... AND I've been without internet for a couple of weeks.... so either a blessing because I'm such a chatter box and there was a vacuum in the friends neighborhood.... Bobby Whitehead _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 4 15:49:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B86428F7 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 15:49:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bosmailout13.eigbox.net (bosmailout13.eigbox.net [66.96.189.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0D640453 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 15:46:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bosmailscan03.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.3]) by bosmailout13.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1UjyzQ-0001Hh-22 for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 04 Jun 2013 17:42:00 -0400 Received: from bosimpout04.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.4]) by bosmailscan03.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1UjyzP-0004i2-4V for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 04 Jun 2013 17:41:59 -0400 Received: from bosauthsmtp14.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.14]) by bosimpout04.eigbox.net with NO UCE id kMhz1l00B0JCtq201Mhz15; Tue, 04 Jun 2013 17:41:59 -0400 a=LgCbk3x532u4QUgQGTM1wg==:17 a=3-MZCWuAnnEA:10 a=N9Uhlu7vJGQA:10 a=aaVOvLNcbhg6uUIHHb0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=5MaToXGdupeujyPb0NUA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=3mIl2KInhI1D0K4Y:21 a=45DcDVhgQm5jvWMN:21 a=5epncqw9mY61gU1Z:21 a=AnsiuLKgxXFeB68GILQVjQ==:117 Received: from ppp-70-253-95-196.dsl.austtx.swbell.net ([70.253.95.196] helo=zap6) by bosauthsmtp14.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1UjyzP-0007wZ-Fq for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 04 Jun 2013 17:41:59 -0400 From: "Robert MacKenzie" To: Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 16:41:56 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac5hVh8F4wOfddfaQuGYYyuqyyzaEAAFiw3w Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] 13 inch DOT race tires? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Which do you prefer: Hoosier A70-13 Street TD or the Toyo R888 (185/60-13) This is for an 1147 Spitfire running a 5-6 inch wheel. .or none of the above? Robert MacKenzie _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 4 16:06:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6893B42A40 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 16:06:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.199]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8B24044D for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 16:06:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from wm17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (wm17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.10.24]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0MNW00JMH2J70YQ0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for FOT@autox.team.net; Tue, 04 Jun 2013 18:01:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [67.83.138.143] by webtop.webmail.optimum.net with HTTP; Tue, 04 Jun 2013 18:01:55 -0400 Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2013 18:01:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Redmond To: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Subject: [Fot] 9" Rear brakes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fot, Does anyone have a set of rebuildable 9" rear brake shoe cores that they would be willing to part with? I'm in need of all 4. Also need the two backing plates. Thanks in advance Todd Redmond 1958 TR3A TS 29341 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 4 16:21:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB4742A1B for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 16:21:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3E54044D for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 16:13:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b%11]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 17:09:22 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: 'Robert MacKenzie' , "fot@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Fot] 13 inch DOT race tires? Thread-Index: Ac5hVh8F4wOfddfaQuGYYyuqyyzaEAAFiw3wAADt6WA= Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 22:09:22 +0000 References: <004201ce616c$56ea7010$04bf5030$@aero> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Subject: Re: [Fot] 13 inch DOT race tires? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Given those two choices, I would take the Toyos. I like the RA1s better than the R888s, though. Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert MacKenzie Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 4:42 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] 13 inch DOT race tires? Which do you prefer: Hoosier A70-13 Street TD or the Toyo R888 (185/60-13) This is for an 1147 Spitfire running a 5-6 inch wheel. .or none of the above? Robert MacKenzie _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 4 16:51:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC8442A12 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 16:51:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from ex.dunnwalshholdings.com (ex.dunnwalshholdings.com [173.219.117.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95CD40556 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 16:50:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::6cea:93a1:26a:8c3c]) by TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::6cea:93a1:26a:8c3c%15]) with mapi; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 15:45:36 -0700 From: Edward Dunn To: Robert MacKenzie , "fot@autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 15:45:23 -0700 Thread-Topic: [Fot] 13 inch DOT race tires? Thread-Index: Ac5hVh8F4wOfddfaQuGYYyuqyyzaEAAFiw3wAAIpF2A= References: <004201ce616c$56ea7010$04bf5030$@aero> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: Re: [Fot] 13 inch DOT race tires? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I currently have Hoosier Street TD on my 1147 Spitfire, and Toyo RA1's on my GT6. Both are race only cars... Edward Dunn West Coast Vintage Racing 2240 Encinitas Blvd., Suite D101 Encinitas CA 92024 760-492-3814 www.vintageracing.us -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert MacKenzie Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 2:42 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] 13 inch DOT race tires? Which do you prefer: Hoosier A70-13 Street TD or the Toyo R888 (185/60-13) This is for an 1147 Spitfire running a 5-6 inch wheel. .or none of the above? Robert MacKenzie _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 5 10:40:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 795E740523 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 10:40:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.197]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2502C40413 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 10:20:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from wm7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (wm7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.10.13]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0MNX005T5H6LYEL0@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for FOT@autox.team.net; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 12:15:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [67.83.138.143] by webtop.webmail.optimum.net with HTTP; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 12:15:57 -0400 Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 12:15:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Redmond To: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Subject: [Fot] Rear Diff Replacement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fot, Thank you to Ed Barnard regarding the rear brake shoes! Here's another question. I have to replace the carrier in my Southwick axle. The axle came to me carrier-less. Does anyone have the case spreader that I may rent? Or know of someone in Northern New Jersey that can do the work? Any info is greatly appreciated Todd Redmond _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 5 13:03:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F9140526 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 13:03:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6A72403F7 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 12:53:01 -0600 (MDT) a=yr/eJ6S8SHGIc+/JdDlNag==:17 a=zkYuSOkxadoA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=1D09IJPl1ScA:10 a=LkBgUFo1XagnGxmDNXcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=YZn3hwo5qsPpEoGB9egA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=yr/eJ6S8SHGIc+/JdDlNag==:117 Received: from [67.255.13.17] ([67.255.13.17:54588] helo=Shop) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 07/F5-09460-9F78FA15; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 18:48:25 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 14:48:27 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac5iHUPwBRYjtTmtTaeZqTmg9ULZ9Q== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] used GT-6 clutch wanted Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I am looking for some used GT-6 clutches- needed for the center only. That is a 1" x 10 spline center piece. Let me know. Need for a prototype project mockup. Thanks Russ Moore Spitfire #49 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 5 13:03:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1451242735 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 13:03:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FBA84042F for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 12:53:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.35]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id kefP1l0030lTkoCA3ioS4d; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 18:48:26 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([24.22.75.60]) by omta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id kioR1l0051J37AG8QioRTs; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 18:48:26 +0000 Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 11:48:24 -0700 From: Jim Norlin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 To: FOT , Kyle Darby References: <51AF8517.6020700@gmail.com> s=q20121106; t=1370458106; bh=2z+Of/h53lcq7BJGwcl5vtrzxQnbU1ZbeD44k4eDt68=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=hsfC10StAFR3hOiMu3CwF9z7ZqX43IuEz2r+pOQsmAORDbPJnlUBsAnWyY1QH6Nwt zR9sfqq/QViLGPCmMwCGxeq9JTc8dQfqyRgKWyTxAjJQSMigcF4jYn+Ms4ouwsI0cE F/0owaHGhXjYU1UPg13Cq0P3csBJnY/MINw9mIgeis9XPlpSACSEFU6KSviap8qhWJ AyFPccqE/tVoTzua5MaAeFBFMBk4NI4TmKFAqFeY685pyyZXUirZb5gHoqEKY9qZw2 l4T40VY+Z9Jm1PNLpypHtn6RDXKxaqzL6fuHLxPHOIWNDjwT/d/XXACZqtf6/C4zlH ZFTlFRivrA1GQ== Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Fwd: GT6 Bonnet Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A friend from the local Portland Triumph club has located a bonnet for a GT6 in the San Fransisco area and is wondering if someone could take a look at it and give an opinion. If you can help out, please contact Kyle directly at the e-mail in the message below. Thanks - Jim -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Fwd: GT6 Bonnet Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 11:36:07 -0700 From: Jim Norlin To: Jim Norlin -------- Original Message -------- Subject: GT6 Bonnet Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 18:19:03 +0000 From: Kyle Darby To: jamesnorlin@gmail.com Hi Jim, I am curious if you happen to know anyone in the vintage race community in or around the San Fransisco area? I located what appears to be a decent bonnet and I am trying to find someone local to look at it and give me an honest opinion. I am also going to try the Triumph Travelers car club in that area as well. Any leads are appreciated. Kyle. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 5 15:23:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC17640446 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 15:23:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8D4403F7 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 15:14:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.23.216]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MNX001WJUS1AW40@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for Fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 16:09:39 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Spitfire Racing" , References: <003c01ce621d$442c2340$cc8469c0$@rr.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 17:09:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] used GT-6 clutch wanted Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Russ, are they the same as a TR6? If so I have a couple. You just need the disc? (I have one that I tore the center out of at the Glen a couple years ago; it's a souvenier). I'll send them next Mon if you need them; I'm headed to Watkins Glen tomorrow. Let me know. Thanks, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spitfire Racing" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 2:48 PM Subject: [Fot] used GT-6 clutch wanted >I am looking for some used GT-6 clutches- needed for the center only. That > is a 1" x 10 spline center piece. > > Let me know. Need for a prototype project mockup. > > > > Thanks > > Russ Moore > > Spitfire #49 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 5 17:03:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C23A40545 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 17:03:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d05.mx.aol.com (omr-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B43AA403FA for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 16:36:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.201]) by omr-d05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id CACE57004066A for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 18:32:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dea003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dea003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.53.73]) by mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 799CCE000087 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 18:32:09 -0400 (EDT) References: <003c01ce621d$442c2340$cc8469c0$@rr.com> To: fot@autox.team.net From: robertten1@aol.com Received: from 96.233.64.253 by webmail-d278.sysops.aol.com (205.188.16.105) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 05 Jun 2013 18:32:06 -0400 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 18:32:06 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1370471529; bh=FGCWWvaGNA054zguicIUt/p+/jRvm3PnOFLDbUL3uZI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xjgQCAYZXLf1psT8EcYJwaTq4OhBiOyVguD7HnpjQCTeceTRKoLmBw21jB7AxRHko H3lQ/udPipcbHjcRk027xmlWjn+I+1if/ub8x6BXAS5BdiTGXP4AAWRoizuZ6XPJJv 8sPHKMRCf5NI9PIqDTriTiL5udtgzAS6Z/v3dpk0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c951afbc6924df Subject: Re: [Fot] used GT-6 clutch wanted Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Russ, Keep us updated as to the progress of your project. Sorry I have no clutch discs to pass along, I had the two I have relined last season. Curious, Bob T '64 Spitfire GT autocrosser ( GT6 Gearbox ) -----Original Message----- From: Bill Tobin To: Spitfire Racing ; Fot Sent: Wed, Jun 5, 2013 5:19 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] used GT-6 clutch wanted Russ, are they the same as a TR6? If so I have a couple. ou just need the disc? I have one that I tore the center out of at the Glen a couple years ago; t's a souvenier). 'll send them next Mon if you need them; I'm headed to Watkins Glen omorrow. et me know. hanks, Bill ---- Original Message ----- rom: "Spitfire Racing" o: ent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 2:48 PM ubject: [Fot] used GT-6 clutch wanted I am looking for some used GT-6 clutches- needed for the center only. That is a 1" x 10 spline center piece. Let me know. Need for a prototype project mockup. Thanks Russ Moore Spitfire #49 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 5 18:27:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E86A640441 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 18:27:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f174.google.com (mail-ie0-f174.google.com [209.85.223.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA8CD4043E for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 09:00:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f174.google.com with SMTP id aq17so3847533iec.19 for ; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 07:55:46 -0700 (PDT) h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=qDD53/J6ScjEeV5lxM5ihWg4AVuTSX3n/k0BmpimCvM=; b=w7pdh3S0lOiJbtsrqbfU2d7rR7iX2nQjX0vTjyryDQ3XECzlMbfBXaKBPQ21TOOsVR jg6LzLuq0yVHHTVJ8i0GqNOD9qMYQIO7YZmke8gscGpUi4MOT8Lw03YGZeppvPyalwsS U/j1dmm/uTyD5a4M/CGbnaaDssV96V+P5lKVSHsewqpCS2DkWDN0lDGEYKsUrM0WHR1u BJq5O1FUOYq5WRJMcdLWtDlNzil6UCLw8TcElXAG3BmyxlOkG8Xo5+jpFeXehQWF+sCJ RIJns9y7I/4268gy3lFf6vJW8UtGTvvG5SKp8fEivPM/uvoQq9TmsNY7+qv4HRApcWmu g67g== a16mr3245752igv.90.1370444146871; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 07:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.65] ([162.157.236.15]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r20sm6347223ign.8.2013.06.05.07.55.45 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 05 Jun 2013 07:55:46 -0700 (PDT) References: <004201ce616c$56ea7010$04bf5030$@aero> From: Stephanie Barnes Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 08:55:42 -0600 To: Robert MacKenzie Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] 13 inch DOT race tires? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We have two sets of rims: stock steel wheels with all-season radials for driving around town, and a set of Panasports wearing Hoosier R6 slicks for racing. The size of the wheel openings, as well as clearance on the inner fenders greatly limited our choice in slicks. As careful as we were in our selection, I still managed to shave chunks off the front slicks on hard cornering until we did some gentle fender rolling. I've never used any other slick than Hoosier, since they were the only company that offered a slick that fit the rims and the wheel openings. That said, they seem to work very well. I'm on my 7th set. ~Stephanie Barnes On 2013-06-04, at 3:41 PM, "Robert MacKenzie" wrote: > Which do you prefer: Hoosier A70-13 Street TD or the Toyo R888 (185/60-13) > This is for an 1147 Spitfire running a 5-6 inch wheel. > > .or none of the above? > > Robert MacKenzie > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/barnesville@telus.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 5 18:59:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A69040446 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 18:59:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm33-vm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm33-vm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE08403F7 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 18:56:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.141] by nm33.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2013 00:51:42 -0000 Received: from [98.139.213.5] by tm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2013 00:51:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp105.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2013 00:51:42 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370479901; bh=zoNZRinsw2KVhx9vJG8beQ5Gxs/lJEtQgPdeyfPAQKs=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=pM0KkbeMRNFox8f0EZoce6IQy2w/kFOVkc53oOdyHmE+YZHIypuTyoBmZnLYlSe1XmJIrMDfKES5NkdWX8YglxW5bIpJjCsr1NoCUXfWQvwGbiIPu3KUZDvGzGwwD03s6jMJVC1Of+P5iEj5axtx7rbSeF3nJ9UeoyC3b+XJoGU= luKKLyusazJxWjzRzB9jJDOw6_yGOkyhAr05KtVOrRXSDeeQ6NJnPbQAjadf CB38jl5zmhJPggyHlwneiZnuLgT0Khk.J37JpFC1Nf2xM8bqnhaMmAYFGf_n RI3KnQfDn.PzxJCPZxjv72fyo5Dd2nho1699HCko0QDTkZvVBR4FofC.1XQX Kxd9bOXXTUK7JPSx7__nBb8e05q1etPJK4wOXkut8cURwz3MTC6hvqdMtMuW R5NyGBwFrY6WOGdqRx8e8mDtT8us97AtchtVj2t48aUggzUO9QQQDeKemZW0 RTPfuOX8CO3PN0XxjMmF.pL9KLjzkr_s6s3HbPKmhVC4.Caep8Bl90IywC.u b2eIJZBjZOFhqaZ0dozND1r05PXWMW5kT8Uev6fmtTEa6Wm4irD_iwVblQdx zvlXp.NERthsANtlaqjk88jm7ZSuNAcdg1rL5u3fOyZoc7ZVN8WZ4a8bimBJ uzpfRKeKbgfvsRBNKXl._zZS7MqteHV.u4iylI0w9F98vtAMjmArXawS.g88 g9zS2FRA2zZK65Q-- ) by smtp105.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 05 Jun 2013 17:51:41 -0700 PDT References: <51AF8517.6020700@gmail.com> <51AF87F8.1030101@comcast.net> From: Andy Packard Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 17:40:04 -0700 To: Jim Norlin Cc: FOT , Kyle Darby Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Fwd: GT6 Bonnet Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm president of Triumph Travelers. Where in the Bay Area is it located? I'm sure we have someone close by. Andy Packard Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2013, at 11:48 AM, Jim Norlin wrote: > A friend from the local Portland Triumph club has located a bonnet for a > GT6 in the San Fransisco area and is wondering if someone could take a > look at it and give an opinion. If you can help out, please contact > Kyle directly at the e-mail in the message below. Thanks - Jim > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Fwd: GT6 Bonnet > Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 11:36:07 -0700 > From: Jim Norlin > To: Jim Norlin > > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: GT6 Bonnet > Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 18:19:03 +0000 > From: Kyle Darby > To: jamesnorlin@gmail.com > > > > Hi Jim, > > I am curious if you happen to know anyone in the vintage race community > in or around the San Fransisco area? I located what appears to be a > decent bonnet and I am trying to find someone local to look at it and > give me an honest opinion. I am also going to try the Triumph Travelers > car club in that area as well. Any leads are appreciated. Kyle. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/apackard68@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 6 17:32:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51617403A7 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 17:32:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7427B40324 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 17:27:44 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=gG5DQpUNAaww/Kr6tJL+rA==:17 a=zgvILx03LV0A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=iJlQBoy7w93sWeh_cUAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=gG5DQpUNAaww/Kr6tJL+rA==:117 Received: from [70.112.94.250] ([70.112.94.250:56544] helo=[192.168.1.105]) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id F4/7E-22496-4D911B15; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 23:23:01 +0000 From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 18:23:00 -0500 To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] Test Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Test. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 6 21:35:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 729DA4040B for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 21:35:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD19C403D4 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 21:10:35 -0600 (MDT) a=gG5DQpUNAaww/Kr6tJL+rA==:17 a=zgvILx03LV0A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=sdZ7pm2sTUYQIlv8qFgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=p1vsH_qzELUBK4rV:21 a=oLRAZOI_IPc7sxzt:21 a=gG5DQpUNAaww/Kr6tJL+rA==:117 Received: from [70.112.94.250] ([70.112.94.250:50263] helo=BlakePC) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 44/95-10569-01E41B15; Fri, 07 Jun 2013 03:05:52 +0000 From: "Greg & Alison Blake" To: "'Greg And Alison Blake'" , "'FoT Triumph'" References: <69BF6A67-DB28-4D40-A12D-D8899C328CDC@austin.rr.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 22:06:01 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac5jDYnsmmNSdZQ8T7uj6I6WP+RhfwAHk2+A Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Test Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks guys. Just trying to post stuff from my phone. Seems to have worked. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg And Alison Blake Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:23 PM To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] Test Test. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 7 15:18:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 438BB40513 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 15:18:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC58E40408 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 14:04:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from AR5J3QR6XV (cpe-70-113-116-224.austin.res.rr.com [70.113.116.224]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MLewt-1UklZQ1TZT-000WqP; Fri, 07 Jun 2013 15:59:32 -0400 From: "FoodDude" To: Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 14:59:37 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac5juP7nwhxtUDRgSgOoW8DjYf5jRg== Content-Language: en-us tccdXyE/7ShdmfqQbDtWAOWkVgMqFE3OnP+l7on6fnV2i7JkmM o4XHvbjtdNgaEuCvca8PRGM5AEC2GEl62rDGZg6vcfETkjHwKT sYfiDj3wVZeaPnOzBWlzp0cNkAnXlNbBwbuWUOZiy79Kq0zEEk 4zz60k2/LiTT4NAAZJfOYtrGCGubW74UlWvSNV9e3PX5nwfp84 Znt4DjwOglAzhwQYBHV44+upafYBjR0LtkeB539vd6H1rN7ZWy Qfrt6urkImZQKDI3Ri5udYimK1hHsrpyKx8zA4Nb8VxteoktAQ WazjuQN6Ayg4quw8JHOhOyT01imL6kDcOLW4uJiwb Subject: [Fot] NEEDED: 3.7:1 ring & pinion 65 TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is for a British Motor Trade Assn member / friend: 1965 Triumph TR4 is in need of either a ring and pinion set in 3.7:1 ratio, or if someone local to Austin, TX has it, a complete rear end in that ratio. NOT IRS. Contact: Dave Foreman dforeman@fooddude.com #24 FP BRG 1964 Spitfire (FP in CVAR; HP in SCCA) #22 BRG (mostly) 1970 TR6 (CHUMP/Lemons) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 7 20:37:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625FF4051B for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 20:37:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d01.mx.aol.com (omr-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.252.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A2C4042C for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 20:06:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.137]) by omr-d01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 212A3700000A7 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 21:58:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dte005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dte005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.163.209]) by mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E6D5CE000082 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 21:58:15 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Bruce Lapierre Received: from 75.91.116.166 by webmail-d148.sysops.aol.com (149.174.18.38) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 07 Jun 2013 21:58:15 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 21:58:15 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1370656696; bh=W1jXP5F/f82efmOHVfIFMPjrxWqw41ilfspxOQVyAi0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=b9EWF3wW9BTlZIr86mty1cmKdxIpW1BYlQlnDJDj5tO+85+u/mw7bRDLWg+Ggvf/Z gE1lEAOBMUCkCV4PeSxhi6kyKqByZM9Khmh1eGetSvXw06j4dLUcSMmViPgKEBRjPz FZYmEngx2f30HlEovrZFulncXSCt37p3UzjoC5tI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338951b28fb74624 Subject: [Fot] Judson Super Charger Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Looking for a TR4 Judson - complete Bruce Lapierre X-46 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 8 05:43:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A899240523 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 05:43:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E2D4051B for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 05:42:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta22.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.73]) by qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id lnSE1l0041ap0As5AndHtt; Sat, 08 Jun 2013 11:37:17 +0000 Received: from sz0058.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta22.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id lndH1l00T2xV5no3indHQ7; Sat, 08 Jun 2013 11:37:17 +0000 Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 11:37:17 +0000 (UTC) From: fogbro1@comcast.net To: Friends of Triumph s=q20121106; t=1370691437; bh=QPMRf1NP13nLL2LiA4ZjgA52YjK0q5an6J/Zn4CC3oc=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=tQ3kR4QFx11GeHZtGNjXM7Bs8toxeqfA/C7y9g9/7681syfbEEjLSZpuFPs1bVbe4 RmDSr/9iq3TaNlr/aaTQ3uupZSKCk1nEYDXmFETuXZ3uWOIk9ZwP9REpuXTUlysCyx MZkN/5nctt9kmjlBSmUrz5TMDq6WcLaNjUhi6YiBYrzmfIjrSz+1wQqx6X+Hy7DTsd BVL5N+ftUANRvdCmYUxDPwTl73NQK4RXWr3FTUCTSjIEjMjD/s4gUa34/bi3Tr6EOw XN1Y6WXdcMlmmhCDdZNAHI7GBYLc+kNC7qQn02NsvTYLPon3ErYO3qNkxazbYr1CeL EXAYhNwnpSZIA== Subject: [Fot] Heater Motor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If the person needing the TR6 heater motor is still in need, please contact me off list. Ed Woods _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 8 05:59:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E597940543 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 05:59:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185274051B for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 05:52:11 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=83u+MrXdrp/+j6LSVwKZbA==:17 a=T43AT7KL4XgA:10 a=nEEMSfqE-DQA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=SsQprN_6-CoA:10 a=rpB1CqzKAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=oepTXF-tFF0TK1iZGsoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=CwsWk3-Hm2oA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=ztUPYMzusQ0A:10 a=83u+MrXdrp/+j6LSVwKZbA==:117 Received: from [166.137.121.125] ([166.137.121.125:52790] helo=[10.180.74.192]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 14/8A-25428-AC913B15; Sat, 08 Jun 2013 11:47:23 +0000 References: <057301ce63b9$8b291cb0$a17b5610$@fooddude.com> From: Bob Kramer Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 06:47:20 -0500 To: FoodDude Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] NEEDED: 3.7:1 ring & pinion 65 TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Put him in touch with me. I have an axle assembly, I think TR4. BTW , The ring and pinion gears from were the TR 2 through TR6 were the same regardless of IRS. Bob Kramer Sent from my iPhone On Jun 7, 2013, at 2:59 PM, "FoodDude" wrote: > This is for a British Motor Trade Assn member / friend: > > > > 1965 Triumph TR4 is in need of either a ring and pinion set in 3.7:1 ratio, > or if someone local to Austin, TX has it, a complete rear end in that ratio. > NOT IRS. > > > > > > Contact: > > Dave Foreman > > dforeman@fooddude.com > > #24 FP BRG 1964 Spitfire (FP in CVAR; HP in SCCA) > > #22 BRG (mostly) 1970 TR6 (CHUMP/Lemons) > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 10 07:43:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B339D40450 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 07:43:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from icp-osb-irony-out7.external.iinet.net.au (icp-osb-irony-out7.external.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.224]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9934041B for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 07:40:54 -0600 (MDT) d="scan'208,217";a="132883499" Received: from unknown (HELO PetersTowerPC) ([114.198.91.244]) by icp-osb-irony-out7.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 10 Jun 2013 21:35:49 +0800 From: "Peter Vucinic" To: "'FOT'" Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 23:36:02 +1000 Thread-Index: Ac5l33L8JrsN0Z6zQ/iESoYCbhhDWQ== Content-Language: en-au Subject: [Fot] Dog Box Straight Cut Gear Sets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Dear listers, Just wondering what type / grade of oil being used in non-overdrive TR4/6 gearboxes running straight cut gears/dog box? Such as the QUAIFE gear set? Also wondering whether anyone has had engagement / disengagement gear issues with straight cut gear sets? Thanks in advance Kind Regards Peter Vucinic TR-4 _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 10 08:21:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E220940E1B for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 08:21:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f180.google.com (mail-ea0-f180.google.com [209.85.215.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3122A4042A for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 08:21:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f180.google.com with SMTP id k10so5559192eaj.11 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 07:16:22 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=mOBJEYhBNd81FPmcDJHygHtJYdTLG+vZ2K+LqkEZepI=; b=gDsqbgJW2uSTWprXFdO5cIxdO4D3TK6EYbR9EYuiOWihd1/XanTYqNhRlRcEoEPk7T Po3k/esI++k+k419dzxkIDxEiQnDnSng8ri2bzozuGHNwr8DlinlNzxbv9CawSvra7OB cTWLwqAnXcTPLyZfN2IOdJfxAaIOOPtK+vwGYufWR8j0IZ8UCpnZ7ZYCyAl3rBEPgwxR e6Qo/ms6HQQ7KKYktDULffv54mxwzBhEteSvyMarKBfG2qICfkFhQrMwHUAvP755h7YX nQ1Y5nPzmqoqnh5gqxIEBdOjFx5uzQOgefgpqEFLQV7Owlwz725ewVZGvFkUjV9I8eMW +Tjw== 49mr11642944eel.57.1370873782593; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 07:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.171.77.235]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id a5sm23386256ees.6.2013.06.10.07.16.21 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 10 Jun 2013 07:16:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Peter Vucinic'" , "'FOT'" References: Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 16:16:26 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac5l33L8JrsN0Z6zQ/iESoYCbhhDWQABYOSA Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Dog Box Straight Cut Gear Sets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I run a dogbox. I use GL4 140 gearbox oil. It does shift great! Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Peter Vucinic Gesendet: Montag, 10. Juni 2013 15:36 An: 'FOT' Betreff: [Fot] Dog Box Straight Cut Gear Sets Dear listers, Just wondering what type / grade of oil being used in non-overdrive TR4/6 gearboxes running straight cut gears/dog box? Such as the QUAIFE gear set? Also wondering whether anyone has had engagement / disengagement gear issues with straight cut gear sets? Thanks in advance Kind Regards Peter Vucinic TR-4 _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 10 18:06:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B548340424 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:06:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm2-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm2-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.158]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4929F4041C for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 14:43:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.214.32] by nm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2013 20:38:53 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.220] by tm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2013 20:38:53 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1029.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2013 20:38:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 75471 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jun 2013 20:38:53 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370896733; bh=7i2iVDINCTO3uDGl33lOMj00UzIwjEo6gNTa28yoJG8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QfvpaXMouavvRAuP2NH/OJ4U0mJciPePgMHkr3x8s5T977PX9t15Hbo94u2+xysAQUnDrDaZkQu2dz1bUl7C1kKOEFGXkpQt1wXIFgaz7Mu8S1/wSSQHaF9B4SFl5676w0d9jBOx3I2eNRvS0cfqlA4ZEgQIrDYL4BdFlF+OvNo= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=s4pnkiaCh29Dsmt8YEPCfiQbWhmKsxB6o37pJATkQCP1XlnGfXn5OSYc3W4TO2MNTIjSWMrTcJv7ATynP5MW+KsU9m18Z5tMD7esA1JZjn26E2jlHgPopWqRWgJkuLXA0oT57X7rXvf1s4FoXtWX59xB4gxZzj2gNXm7EiRcBxQ=; bHYeiBdUWwYUtdeXUu_m9 Received: from [188.115.110.100] by web160604.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:38:53 PDT Y2hyaXMgY3Jpc2VuYmVyeWh0dHA6Ly93d3cucGljdHVyZXdhcmVob3VzZS5jb20uYXUvamVteGp5aS93eWltaXdkY3BndHgvICAgIAoKATABAQEB Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:38:53 -0700 (PDT) From: chris crisenbery To: hvhwh 3262074432 , northpeakrunner , peter riverside , rodhayward , fot , rob Subject: [Fot] good luck chris crisenbery Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net chris crisenberyhttp://www.picturewarehouse.com.au/jemxjyi/wyimiwdcpgtx/ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 10 18:28:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DDCE40C01 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:28:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d09.mx.aol.com (omr-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0891F4043E for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:27:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.131]) by omr-d09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1E6167006D04E for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 20:22:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id D15F6E000144 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 20:22:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:22:31 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1370910153; bh=uNqz0BmqA258haSMMa+4il9nY8f5s5vQcE5fBy7K6I4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=h4d2BZz/K6kFELlV74A/8Y1A5DJFy1YhVWAoMUNr3H5+0sNkTrve8Wz6gTjv/SU5i KArR0048SFc0DdQkazIzvj60ZN+GGuKfpOpXhKQ0Q0hYgMBOjspCGFaSlv4VqRQ6qZ jiuS9p4JN7+V1Of+M90NbvflAz63/cDRQJjY4KoA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338351b66dc8468a Subject: [Fot] SU carb assembly. Lube? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It's been 25 years since assembling a set of TR3A carbs. Any favorite assembly lube for cork seals, caveats, etc.? Thanks..... Joe A. Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 10 18:31:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F674056E for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:31:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s23.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s23.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.98]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5814340535 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:31:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W127 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s23.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 10 Jun 2013 17:26:01 -0700 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 20:26:00 -0400 FILETIME=[405F5950:01CE663A] Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Distributer Needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Anybody have a usable Spitfire distributer in their parts pile they want to sell? I need one to get me through the PVGP next month and then I can send it out to advanced for rebuild/recurve and have it fresh for Road America in the fall. Looks like he is running 3 weeks and that is cutting it too close. I'll call him in the morning to verify. The timing has always been kind of odd on my Spitfire. It came with a Mallory Dual Point. I pulled the distributer apart this evening and it looks like when the cross hole as drilled in the shaft it was missed the first time so a second pass was made leaving an elongated hole in the shaft so there is a boatload of play. Sheesh, its always something. Thanks, _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 10 18:44:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7198425C3 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:44:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm37-vm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm37-vm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.238.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7799B40535 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:41:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.148] by nm37.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2013 00:36:11 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.247] by tm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2013 00:36:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1056.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2013 00:36:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 18242 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jun 2013 00:36:11 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370910971; bh=46e1AhafCB8Z7uHOvkpptAHNA7NPC9BSfYVdNBOpkoc=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ywuMcbdThs4OPNH7srxrFuce3vyWuW+C90zzNzRs56kQZebRHSH5U8S80GjE7JMXJ0tpwQSvejmlgwpsPo8EZIWe3Uzkf6FzGfq6iFq3hMkoyGZubW9z0BEsIHnFRXQnswSBDiTed43NDqjawT7ghIBwrE85EyAFT6EK+H3iYmw= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pL8xsexrz2Ei++SEVwJEIIboIVUmRjEhu0AMsSnOZxOtTnQnDNTxtvNhhfd+0dLLf5KkYHPDfF8d0RuxOl59HSjaL79plzyKdMAUSalWxh7wfyMqVBl39RiEMEREEhBc9NfyHmeDKPcLwHy6S9svn92ywQPvhlWLMQ2S64RJjQc=; HtXzoYsD2unixDBaYEWYh84_pmUx6RHNH6W8ndgltCQgrdr05klbTFW.0qcC xPcWW_j2GiMJ5uKXsQNyM_2gExSKrhBLk92DX5DiPsfl9hEz82G0F6oPdhE2 2pwrkjUuy025JOrXw1hRg_BfAkqQSgnT5PTPpbbCIqXyJKL2K05Hmq7UrvP4 ph9owxqqzJ09zg2CyzEAHgYZjSn2U8jwTgdJLSA454v27qpp269dUQN4FbRk za7qloCz_Lu4uLpMGgy29IJGWqFbWJR8iMHEScIClFGiYpYj_VwJ8kRP3Mjt FJqnuTTK.sQ81Ia6KCM3c_0xqO2tyyb1UkorWfWxOXztQ0I4LkY3OBrOmcfh FUKW6vleqinLUicQ5T0_XrJN.fIxzs3GoM4oTBFYiR2ze_0lo5ISmcwZLm5R 7H1cIdkUk0dLxGht6jkbeadiCbeK06Pg8gLSHFpeR7AHVJiRu88oLWmswp8s cfKa8hIX_vpEoVVEvimjw4ZxeoxATXPgxjKWgT.iloRiJiJ79525xYrmhrGg jCUZrwzY- Received: from [71.234.118.70] by web160704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 17:36:10 PDT SGkgQWxsLAoKSSBhbSBsb29raW5nIHRvIGZpbmQgdGhlIGhlYWQgdGhpY2tuZXNzIG9mIGEgc3RvY2sgc3BpdGZpcmUgMzAzMDE0IGhlYWQuCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18BMAEBAQE- References: <000601ce65e5$1a069c00$4e13d400$@com> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 17:36:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay Creel To: 'FOT' Subject: [Fot] Measurement of Stock Spitfire 303014 head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi All, I am looking to find the head thickness of a stock spitfire 303014 head. ________________________________ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 10 19:02:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59B04056E for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:02:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s28.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s28.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E075540535 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:58:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W34 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s28.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 10 Jun 2013 17:52:59 -0700 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 20:52:59 -0400 References: FILETIME=[05152380:01CE663E] Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Distributer Needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I think I have it covered already. What a great group of people make up FOT!!! Marty ---------------------------------------- > From: trmarty@hotmail.com > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Spitfire Distributer Needed > Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 20:26:00 -0400 > > Anybody have a usable Spitfire distributer in their parts pile they want to sell? I need one to get me through the PVGP next month and then I can send it out to advanced for rebuild/recurve and have it fresh for Road America in the fall. Looks like he is running 3 weeks and that is cutting it too close. I'll call him in the morning to verify. The timing has always been kind of odd on my Spitfire. It came with a Mallory Dual Point. I pulled the distributer apart this evening and it looks like when the cross hole as drilled in the shaft it was missed the first time so a second pass was made leaving an elongated hole in the shaft so there is a boatload of play. Sheesh, its always something. > > Thanks, _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 10 19:36:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A92E40E1B for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:36:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0FC40535 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:36:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB8DA1915 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:34:06 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:34:05 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <399F8400-59B2-4AE0-B347-6750F0E01775@cs.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] SU carb assembly. Lube? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe Alexander wrote: > It's been 25 years since assembling a set of TR3A carbs. > > Any favorite assembly lube for cork seals, caveats, etc.? > I use a very light smear of Lubriplate white assembly grease on the cork seals and try not to screw up the order of the springs, seals and cup washers. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 10 19:38:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC0040EA9 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:38:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f47.google.com (mail-oa0-f47.google.com [209.85.219.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53FC54054C for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:38:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id m1so4888932oag.34 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:33:10 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=UKwZbVsU/7Jhg+2yHWOaljkbaDT31QVRJ+mqKCgGlSc=; b=yGqD0i4eLRID/Oy3PioxVtTGbyeLFCWLQzfSjaanBYMgQXwX7xNi5vkxr/SNCzt2I4 O9obb8VLT/IUBC03QllSxu6jqOE1HlqHHvLxYxQj1CrVb2gjTFyj6/qG8XWCzIa6vcpU xNECAQHk4Xl4vMHk2sf+moNIX9AcIzVDOX1GBN98b/14tUulpfq2e9Rbx0kfvvDpHA2/ skhxXdcjQeffnGhydd4SewNeR5sZK2RwggnDswtGImBy2Kq2xXq49Puk+rr7Zj5ZK37D /pYKSI7aoul00SZzx9DFCVoV/DeAnP+3KgBJCZQ6sRNr4zSsovQLbmrDDOGWyecjLtss qovw== qt10mr10510446oeb.118.1370914390750; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.5] (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id c20sm26278880oez.4.2013.06.10.18.33.08 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:33:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 20:33:04 -0500 References: <399F8400-59B2-4AE0-B347-6750F0E01775@cs.com> To: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] SU carb assembly. Lube? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe, I didn't do anything special when replacing all the seals on a set of H6's but if you want those jet tubes to slide smoothly through the cork seals, you might try Hylomar, which never hardens, and fuel is unlikely to flush it away. Duncan On Jun 10, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > It's been 25 years since assembling a set of TR3A carbs. > > Any favorite assembly lube for cork seals, caveats, etc.? > > Thanks..... > > Joe A. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 10 19:50:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F314056D for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:50:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m03.mx.aol.com (omr-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7175D4054C for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:44:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.197]) by omr-m03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E4B25700000BA; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 21:39:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 8F094E0000B4; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 21:39:56 -0400 (EDT) References: <399F8400-59B2-4AE0-B347-6750F0E01775@cs.com> <89646BA9-276F-4990-9E8D-E3486029B48F@gmail.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 20:39:54 -0500 To: Duncan Charlton x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1370914796; bh=gWFEyFQK/q4iTosQFCeGE/dy17oF5/R6bohM9vLS46Y=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=Qh4+gpaXXVU0ofIrGvahmgjcp+AMddsRZgLfP25yfR35jiEEEajrkIpyIKIKDsTFW Kg98i3L3Nt2G/jD4BTRNszjE6xRrypOE+B8W6t3B94wer4GfVzLM2L89G7lxsRnO6u PiuTbtgJOhswoLN+xycpfq1kxRCDY1f2rCw4hLiw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c551b67fec015d Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] SU carb assembly. Lube? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks...I AM polishing the jet tube to a fine finish. I read that somewhere, sometime. Sent from my iPad On Jun 10, 2013, at 8:33 PM, Duncan Charlton wrote: > Joe, > > I didn't do anything special when replacing all the seals on a set of H6's but > if you want those jet tubes to slide smoothly through the cork seals, you > might try Hylomar, which never hardens, and fuel is unlikely to flush it > away. > > Duncan > > > On Jun 10, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > >> It's been 25 years since assembling a set of TR3A carbs. >> >> Any favorite assembly lube for cork seals, caveats, etc.? >> >> Thanks..... >> >> Joe A. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 11 07:22:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF3E742736 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 07:22:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f44.google.com (mail-ee0-f44.google.com [74.125.83.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88677403EC for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 07:13:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f44.google.com with SMTP id c13so3661427eek.17 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 06:08:52 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=ceSjks3AiBPjSHl6EHwiTEW1jnBApVyYs8mpbZ833k4=; b=iWLEzwSCaxEqxoc7J2FBuc0T+iV60twLWvIAgQlDACXP/sw7EmCzuxCzwIV7lfjuiy vVZ9meOWoje/iQO99Hc+4mGWpwVn8yAm/zy40JEtwgXoLKBG5wmIv4e9kxFsDjoGHPsZ yD0ZZ4wnKsyVMhAZgNi4VsZxAS7GB2SneKU9g8cjN9jIva1/xfH1sf2dsjvVtkQAfH6a is70QZXfd1xuvinBE+99cl6cjBZdYKqMU77qy05VhsI2KF/lcAyFkOVwbdhx0k9wbUTF EUuoR2cXdUPbfw4UEukZqSI19TSImtHcl8Z++40G7nyhlT8Q3M5aBsFYiX82lq0Akxr0 Aiew== s46mr16504195eel.133.1370956132419; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 06:08:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([46.78.111.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id m1sm20875078eex.17.2013.06.11.06.08.50 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 11 Jun 2013 06:08:51 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Joe Alexander'" , References: <399F8400-59B2-4AE0-B347-6750F0E01775@cs.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:08:48 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac5mOgDtykJBH8cYTIudXO/EAhbm8AAarz5Q Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] SU carb assembly. Lube? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I replaced cork with rubber o-rings. -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Joe Alexander Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Juni 2013 02:23 An: fot@autox.team.net Betreff: [Fot] SU carb assembly. Lube? It's been 25 years since assembling a set of TR3A carbs. Any favorite assembly lube for cork seals, caveats, etc.? Thanks..... Joe A. Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 11 07:23:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B075242778 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 07:23:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m05.mx.aol.com (omr-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37CB42727 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 07:19:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.196]) by omr-m05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1BFE670000099; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 09:14:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 1E7A3E0006F6; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 09:14:26 -0400 (EDT) References: <399F8400-59B2-4AE0-B347-6750F0E01775@cs.com> <000901ce66a4$d0facc50$72f064f0$@com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 08:14:21 -0500 To: MadMarx x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1370956468; bh=ntiYFxvIA+B+6yYC6TwWVIXnUFvFoQUvHP8K0OIQzz0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=ScHwajs9FPHy9BLvzRdUhNZZfIEhLkG0YHvytRWNlEzug0WSsRfsOH223HSOL7vzi dkoXMnlduwcHZtAM+SHUMH0qyoV5RZFFaAvjI20heD7S0zwc402O+IJxk5Gvi9SfKF djJaYgTaj4o3Fm8f8mYG1b6r4amlLFarNsBuFE8I= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c451b722b257a1 Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] SU carb assembly. Lube? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That sounds like a great idea and a longer term solution. Thanks Chris. Sent from my iPad On Jun 11, 2013, at 8:08 AM, "MadMarx" wrote: > I replaced cork with rubber o-rings. > > -----UrsprC Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im > Auftrag von Joe Alexander > Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Juni 2013 02:23 > An: fot@autox.team.net > Betreff: [Fot] SU carb assembly. Lube? > > It's been 25 years since assembling a set of TR3A carbs. > > Any favorite assembly lube for cork seals, caveats, etc.? > > Thanks..... > > Joe A. > > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 11 07:24:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74EF4277F for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 07:24:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d05.mx.aol.com (omr-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46354003E for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 07:24:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.66]) by omr-d05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6889F70040745 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 09:19:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id F0570E0000B2 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 09:19:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 08:19:24 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1370956774; bh=DwWse0hERvI52/A9DIOlDXtf35DwQgvs6HeDG+0a0AI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=P0Cuv/iJsbWHTTv1rlvB1v5rn5OUbvegWd9qJBFZFKaVXy/ej+0+bp+d6n/M6OH1l 8tek2JKdafNNKaL0oTBZf+QEQr2XeieFxrNR5eQBBjXvQRNXFE7tHUxkQWicm4qSx5 9qTVQ46axzLD81Rb6TrSC9iu043oA30EMbpwCyYg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294251b723df2dbb Subject: [Fot] FOT Decals Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Do not send anymore money for decals...not sure I have enough to fill the orders. If you sent money and don't receive your decals, please let me know. I am sure I overlooked or lost track of orders. That was a fast & furious round of orders and a nice testimonial to the interest in the FOT. Thanks! Joe A _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 11 08:09:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8004041F for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 08:09:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229E540329 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 07:59:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id n0t41l0020SCNGk511uYLt; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 13:54:32 +0000 Received: from ComputerPC ([71.60.181.57]) by omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id n1uY1l0081EiJYf3V1uYhC; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 13:54:32 +0000 From: "Stutzmans" To: "Joe Alexander" , "MadMarx" References: <399F8400-59B2-4AE0-B347-6750F0E01775@cs.com><000901ce66a4$d0facc50$72f064f0$@com> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 09:54:34 -0400 s=q20121106; t=1370958872; bh=IgKyG+O0GUaGdqNdVZMpUotAmngj/KwCfty397VL2OU=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=Pv9D3g8McX2TmWBTaeCvLAblvcMUz/nKdgnkPe45hkR5+8LKpSrySA625L7WBOOzV mp34EGdicxYK6GFTgmnVuBgWYcBQmC2MdC8hEsg22BdrLABnD+4qBpzdmZMfpu+/HL oSTqau1F3oO/A9cwoh5inZL3/keKikjcYZ58hP2cspsT0LQoQyesR+zGeUrkTCKNh5 96Co10VqmuU+j+GMDedzOAO0hQ/Pmu8HgJNn8xLtK+EOsgvcM8iCFo0QqS6eRPC5EY n3Wth8I1IKnmZJLqCcupQ7S9RKM3S7drv7RKBSZP0KmSTb/fh0BehhQ/HZ2Td0lCok nV/9cM4igUKgQ== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] SU carb assembly. Lube? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I got a handfull of o-rings from Dave at TRF - they work well. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Alexander" To: "MadMarx" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] SU carb assembly. Lube? > That sounds like a great idea and a longer term solution. > > Thanks Chris. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 11, 2013, at 8:08 AM, "MadMarx" wrote: > >> I replaced cork with rubber o-rings. >> >> -----UrsprC> Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im >> Auftrag von Joe Alexander >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Juni 2013 02:23 >> An: fot@autox.team.net >> Betreff: [Fot] SU carb assembly. Lube? >> >> It's been 25 years since assembling a set of TR3A carbs. >> >> Any favorite assembly lube for cork seals, caveats, etc.? >> >> Thanks..... >> >> Joe A. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/stutzmans@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 11 08:14:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2053340524 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 08:14:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail201c2.megamailservers.com (mail201c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B260B40382 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 08:14:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail201c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r5BE90Xt017189 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:09:05 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:09:00 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac5mrTgWkFr9QRr9TPm4xWuYZZ5AEg== a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=uLGo277IjEtmYZcxxHYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=3yTRXaD3ZiOANeXN:21 a=84-vJxO-zVcBfSFC:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: [Fot] SVRA Watkins Glenn Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Can't remember who, but someone wanted to know if the SVRA had changed any. I would say yes. They were all very polite and easy to get along with. They still won't honor other organization's annual tech, but can't say that it is a bad idea to check all the cars. Met Bill Tobin, nice guy. My first time at WG and was a bit intimidated on Fri. when the first introduction was in the rain. High speed corners, blue armco 4' off the pavement and rain are not my cup of tea. Sat was dry and I really enjoyed the track, although the concrete patches were really rough. Sat. race I was in 5th. Overall having a great race with a 914 (who stayed behind me) & the radiator hose came off on last lap, the water was not too hot & my face shield needed cleaning anyway. Sun. got blocked at start, passed 4 cars into turn 2, but the fast MG's were out of sight by then, and Randy Willams TR3 quit on him. The rest of the race was with none in sight either in front or behind me. I'll go to other SVRA events at Mid Ohio and VIR, better treatment than before for sure..... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. 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The rule is, don't fixate on the guardrails. The weather was dreadful Friday, but cleared up for Sat and Sun. I had a couple great races, one with a Fiat (John's friend, who took a lot of video. Hope I can view it) and another with a 914. Also a nice old OHC Hemi Daimler SP250. Had fun and the Redhead ran well. There was a bad crash Sat in the enduro. A guy in a really nice Ginetta G16 crashed heavily in the Bus Stop and broke both legs and ankles. The front of the car was cut off by the rescue team for extrication. (It was heavily damaged anyhow). It was quite scarey but the driver is fine and had surguries to repair his injuries. At the driver's meeting Friday, SVRA stressed flags, especially red flags. It paid off Sat during the enduro, which was red flagged. Next up: Mid Ohio. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "john hasty" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:09 AM Subject: [Fot] SVRA Watkins Glenn > Can't remember who, but someone wanted to know if the SVRA had changed > any. > I would say yes. They were all very polite and easy to get along with. > They still won't honor other organization's annual tech, but can't say > that > it is a bad idea to check all the cars. Met Bill Tobin, nice guy. My > first > time at WG and was a bit intimidated on Fri. when the first introduction > was > in the rain. High speed corners, blue armco 4' off the pavement and rain > are > not my cup of tea. Sat was dry and I really enjoyed the track, although > the > concrete patches were really rough. Sat. race I was in 5th. Overall having > a > great race with a 914 (who stayed behind me) & the radiator hose came off > on > last lap, the water was not too hot & my face shield needed cleaning > anyway. > Sun. got blocked at start, passed 4 cars into turn 2, but the fast MG's > were > out of sight by then, and Randy Willams TR3 quit on him. The rest of the > race was with none in sight either in front or behind me. I'll go to > other > SVRA events at Mid Ohio and VIR, better treatment than before for > sure..... > > John H. Hasty > Attorney At Law > Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. > 719 East Boulevard > Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 > Tele: (704) 372-5600 > Fax: (704) 372-4601 > E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com > www.gdhs.com > > PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) > is > intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information > that > is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. > If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the > message > and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. > > IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations > regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated > otherwise, > any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) > is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of > (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, > marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter > addressed herein. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 11 09:58:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A1740357 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 09:58:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m03.mx.aol.com (omr-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A24140326 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 09:58:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.132]) by omr-m03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A267D700000AE; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:53:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id C59A8E000083; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:53:17 -0400 (EDT) References: From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:53:12 -0500 To: Bill Tobin x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1370965998; bh=M1T+xkh+Lbv2c6VnxnvnVYgyi1sCZaGpeiET6sT6ecE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=N0C/tlNqpUHu3i5Bsh1mwFyRKQ4OPtB1fj2Gk1FcZJhWa8ZcBKCWfBhyTY+iOTLMK VT8bJJExs6Lm25fVLTJdGHpBOAt2zRIv90TJcnLJolZ+K/VkRU9gVI3ATs3WtVYcBn 71wU2boA7mc+Pae2Wy4lV6kGc4ck7qfKZnkGjuxg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338451b747ed638c Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] SVRA Watkins Glenn Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Let us know how it goes at MO. It has been since 2002 since the FOT had an event there. It should be considered once again for the future. Bill, I have a package for you as you requested. Joe A Sent from my iPad On Jun 11, 2013, at 9:51 AM, "Bill Tobin" wrote: > Glad you had fun John. The rule is, don't fixate on the guardrails. The weather was dreadful Friday, but cleared up for Sat and Sun. > I had a couple great races, one with a Fiat (John's friend, who took a lot of video. Hope I can view it) and another with a 914. Also a nice old OHC Hemi Daimler SP250. Had fun and the Redhead ran well. > There was a bad crash Sat in the enduro. A guy in a really nice Ginetta G16 crashed heavily in the Bus Stop and broke both legs and ankles. The front of the car was cut off by the rescue team for extrication. (It was heavily damaged anyhow). It was quite scarey but the driver is fine and had surguries to repair his injuries. > At the driver's meeting Friday, SVRA stressed flags, especially red flags. It paid off Sat during the enduro, which was red flagged. > Next up: Mid Ohio. > Cheers, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- From: "john hasty" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:09 AM > Subject: [Fot] SVRA Watkins Glenn > > >> Can't remember who, but someone wanted to know if the SVRA had changed any. >> I would say yes. They were all very polite and easy to get along with. >> They still won't honor other organization's annual tech, but can't say that >> it is a bad idea to check all the cars. Met Bill Tobin, nice guy. My first >> time at WG and was a bit intimidated on Fri. when the first introduction was >> in the rain. High speed corners, blue armco 4' off the pavement and rain are >> not my cup of tea. Sat was dry and I really enjoyed the track, although the >> concrete patches were really rough. Sat. race I was in 5th. Overall having a >> great race with a 914 (who stayed behind me) & the radiator hose came off on >> last lap, the water was not too hot & my face shield needed cleaning anyway. >> Sun. got blocked at start, passed 4 cars into turn 2, but the fast MG's were >> out of sight by then, and Randy Willams TR3 quit on him. The rest of the >> race was with none in sight either in front or behind me. I'll go to other >> SVRA events at Mid Ohio and VIR, better treatment than before for sure..... >> >> John H. Hasty >> Attorney At Law >> Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. >> 719 East Boulevard >> Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 >> Tele: (704) 372-5600 >> Fax: (704) 372-4601 >> E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com >> www.gdhs.com >> >> PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is >> intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that >> is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. >> If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any >> dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have >> received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message >> and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. >> >> IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations >> regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, >> any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) >> is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of >> (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, >> marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter >> addressed herein. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 11 11:49:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA4C40382 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:49:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm11.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm11.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.138]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0EB840323 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:48:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.97] by nm11.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2013 17:43:51 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.84] by tm2.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2013 17:43:51 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1021.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2013 17:43:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 75278 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jun 2013 17:43:50 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370972630; bh=sWGkok1N3d6oXf13lWoLrUuVIK/EO7a2o9mTQzRqiSw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SKPMRTUBNAOUbZH2Y/L1oM9dFXwId4ABjS4n16ZKy9jfCyZSDPKS66sfytE9CMMi0Q6QGlq/HAs5AqLOhO4O5PtsRtqI80uQWRStbYYmJgRezK3ZZTlktJc75B1udxvdKqcx9F1Jue27or581Gh+Pq48iDT5BwLZBRSZWOGKpIo= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uqJF8eOy9BvJoIBLehh2E5ojOTNX/b5rpPH0nxyN1vGIxDyNA1HxJk6UoQ1AIAPB1AZDGYCDvQHhRvCKwS828J/+WDrJITMR50d0aRoqGFk6LNOj9mruvLN9fPj4W9tpiU1hDNkHu4tdHpj33qX8HJe/kTuOg1ZuCqwMoQu9f24=; mZ0GpqGNvU2wtVNKjKdmmZ2fsCaglt8FCAvrgSIHeSwq9uswQahBESJCFD8x X25SnILJ1F6csw9T.X5FsTbTQwKP3WLV7_cBiRcbziDUd.PFt.vuRA7lVW8j .VhPJjdLnmdcsYuZvAl0WOhlSrXwEcmUcyRIVPoIr504DpKQ9UyVgEerQco6 zhBWEKjxpgiToP1jtdD6oG265emgYFE0Ljm6LPtdOHZBVJIG2Ln08TSM7Gk2 .xW_Oltu2OFeQdMHDOBKBO74y1MJAAaf1776YIQtL12LiH7bik_r_bWKzEEk fRh9X1tH7RLVFHsrYOngoZduU_EbUkHYteqMvGLCNseFzSJwvOK1TWAEFkO1 hUmzspbSIFulNFMlkX9YQPMknM8q1XTlVEXW2N7SpVHReYwroL4pUU0AA1QK qkfznzL9HBukC7_wSeSApQ6QwJrl2TOt0kipLtz7j3jtAYLEh7jU2UCABw3V q0rI.D4NtHs0ebiJ5.wg- Received: from [192.148.105.4] by web181105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:43:50 PDT SGVsbG8gYWxsLgpIb3BlZnVsbHkgdGhlcmUgaXMgZ3Jvd2luZyBleGNpdGVtZW50IG92ZXIgcGF0Y2hlcyBiZWNhdXNlIEkganVzdCBvcmRlcmVkIDEwMCBvZiB0aGVtLsKgIFRoZXkgYXJlIHNsaWdodGx5IGxhcmdlciB0aGFuIHRoZSBwcmV2aW91cyBydW4gaW4gb3JkZXIgdG8gc2hvdyBtb3JlIGRldGFpbCBvZiBvdXIgY29sb3JmdWwgbG9nbyAoMi41IiB4IDMuNSIgb3ZhbCkuwqAgCsKgClByaWNpbmc6Ck9uZSBmb3IgJDYKJDUgZWFjaCBmb3IgZWFjaCBhZGRpdGlvbmFsIHBhdGNoLsKgIArCoApUaGVyZSABMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:43:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Packard To: "Fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] FOT patches have been ordered - Let the fun begin! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello all. Hopefully there is growing excitement over patches because I just ordered 100 of them. They are slightly larger than the previous run in order to show more detail of our colorful logo (2.5" x 3.5" oval). Pricing: One for $6 $5 each for each additional patch. There is a bit of margin built in as fundraising for our TR4 Lemons racecar project. Our car fund money is putting up the capital and we hope to raise a little $ (we might see $200 out of this) to help with our purchase of seat belts. Not only will you get a great patch for your jacket, driving suit (patch is not fireproof, wear at your own risk), or hat, you will be supporting the appearance of the first TR4 in 24 Hours of Lemons history (there have been TR7s, a TR6, and a couple Spitfires). And since we'll be buying seat belts with the proceeds, you might just save a life! (thanks in advance for that one!) Payment: Two options - 1) Paypal CASH ONLY to apackard68@att.net as money sent to family or friends. Please don't pay with a credit card and force me to pay a bunch of fees on all these transactions. 2) Check made payable to "SilverScreen Triumph" and mailed to: Andy Packard SilverScreen Triumph 56 Hagen Oaks Ct Alamo, CA 94507 Be sure to note how many you want with a clearly written or typed address. Including your email will also be helpful for me to clarify any information. Start ordering now and the patches will be sent out when received in about two weeks. First $ received will reserve a patch. After our 3 person race team is outfitted, I have 94 left, so don't delay! Andy Packard _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 11 12:34:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6D54032C for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 12:34:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm48.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm48.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.120.55]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361A540325 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 12:34:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.50] by nm48.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2013 18:29:34 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.127] by tm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2013 18:29:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2013 18:29:34 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370975374; bh=e6goI4Df7d4NBFR2lChD9uO7ZVbMLg4dyfR7G+bg9UU=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Subject:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=Pjt7QDK35aoTSsq10c4ZM81jcAc9C55CZy5jDl4a6qzY6bM9+SXNMvpGCHse1vlCphWD295foInI+VMsH/P2gvb35jph1x4RcoZ8F7HdfmnSsEVBft3d4+qb62LUNUxgiQRFpgRL1AbyG8bo5toIB//xzb/A1+SXhdQyKRUlixQ= HG96mgLNx22eN_bxnvAfIp2gnS3aXOAbvF3sJyWQk4ZYLSYuuGqunTjx7euL Whv7CNY_c29hvoXNw8NLNhXFlkVoA3TMRAvVERaGuriYcgbExp_wRt91GdMr vGgiwnWSo2tP74Kw6Ew6dN7x1zt1VqIr.6kmet.wjugZw7mLb6k686OJr08. 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Andy Packard _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 11 12:47:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214A140357 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 12:47:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm34-vm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm34-vm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.6]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE02340326 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 12:47:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.145] by nm34.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2013 18:42:18 -0000 Received: from [98.139.211.196] by tm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2013 18:42:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2013 18:42:18 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370976138; bh=B/n0tESIO/FaEBRRrJfMf6W499vRb8L6kv8LnNRbNrQ=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=WDP7CC1oqOYLLgiWpZUNyQg7loGnYEFNL+6DP3gL7b1q09WOAAfHsbf66GCKOuLI0cNLXfNmB7JbS3rWjVFgCO8ksohAzbL5XXg/9htAtVwpmAzinqCMEYeU95xjSEBrFPmbBp46ycq1vymZrGo40zvsd6SN9j6eJL19deQSdz0= CLPVWP7s6BCJzyI6cNRRvnqhmQrihs6faxR8xJqwdqPPsJXa3liQUDNC3XpR g66.5ZWTuAVHFlHt5FBKM4jjnoC3SgyQvKCr2xlO_POIa78RQdSSWoe.iOKe 4Kll0nVUGb_MCuVyGpvnAEfEjqRXG07.2aqGcOq0WVRl8xGC2Us4KxJ7Amtl iZ7T1jFDn29AxW4bc1sxQP0.5AtUqQ43W4gbqxE2RMUHZlqq7bz6ZhSazWxV cUbj.kvQ4qvMQA76RJYoB6KDF7YtzVs.anpVH6F5BdomjMPulh17mpyLbpVZ 7I4RpS3ofprshcZg0c29J_ODysTi83q9XVCsGTsdkKcKHdmR6cEP9Rna0_QY 2ZNBsUB4p4__I3iMuXkUEnJrvt97NP0EGV8DT6qpe5XNO_85MD099aGDs63K b_0GK20fYuvYcy9W4R53DjuXxo0yz3c8QGo79Hq6QthYnribMzpYqBHGqydv TD_AHDrpsYAf.9YK1OezJUf_Nphb_.3.ctIklxem0JhKuyOFCKem30OuBvdK ydybW with ) by smtp205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 2013 11:42:18 -0700 PDT References: From: Jaxon Racing Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 14:42:14 -0400 To: Andy Packard Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Patches detail update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net So a die cut shaping ? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 11, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Andy Packard wrote: > I just learned from the vendor that the patches will be trimmed to the outline > of the logo, not oval. Sounds better to me but I wanted everyone to know what > they are getting. > > Andy Packard > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaxonracing@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 11 20:15:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D7F4041E for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 20:15:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm8-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm8-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.118]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD77F40381 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 20:15:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.98] by nm8.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jun 2013 02:09:59 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.84] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jun 2013 02:09:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1021.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jun 2013 02:09:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 36045 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Jun 2013 02:09:58 -0000 s=s1024; t=1371002998; bh=1WsS4BTiouR4i7MzNyvN5yzL0LIB0sHGjWwliZtR4Ls=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=c0RcrNMJKNKZRxWTkHUZo8XAEB5hygqz02og0w7/ratiwYLVUf8DFm5TfePFg4yrDiqZTltrs4vV94qYs0aJGEvYnunCGd/OlsV/s/jDYqUdqhVmBvdLW4NRFrUJwSK/GL1ZYBVCCNi8hU7xipPqtmp2WfOo2lAa9izYuJ5gjxc= s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GElZZCm8k9TdugHSDPHD+fGw2mfd3O5YSCZpghDo3vyqEns2Re/iNT3ulUkZsas9vmsBN+87PiYzZq37/iFgR7Aon4tO4tdT3xvqdqHgewTJ719OPPmlf0PnGDNw0fNXszZREUkbaLFxvbJKMDe9qrhpvb2ylUv3orP188tBS5I=; Y4p9OdE.c6HukTslOyvoSi_NKjOGEaJySaeYSFGrQWdUq.kP6aHB_bf5BnWo FgCdf1ziOCe3bdGLyND7Ryy0yn7fLDWrNEPUSTSDkaRJhJNih.el94xBr110 9WmP4q8ngITx2LTvjegaAXGhfZNCoFQndTzcR7P2qpPinM6v8P1cYL.KbumT q0x1jU7eyoFrlDpBVP.D1UYklLoE6OAO3IrUw.Xj9eBegEtgH5gMaFzo9T_b GbeWizc1.W9mfDzCxm4Do3VktqCKG8D.GMBt4CofKBbrpqMgwEqFJ90g30Gs IiCmZG2uUqhlUYkUvAvG4ccZa01Rhl03n2_wjIGgvLcRz_sSOd8WKh9bilDG uwQ9lGPVBwIIvXmMKPuvH2EzjtAoHFYoVEpJbg38ns7QRICc4raAknHn3jpQ YFsL.A6uXmu324X_YqtEqfr8w1k7t1mn3ueyvGkKCNBx5Ni1hfXcvC0ZyQS. 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Moss actually has a p/n for them in the catalog. -Ed- --- On Tue, 6/11/13, Stutzmans wrote: From: Stutzmans Subject: Re: [Fot] SU carb assembly. Lube? To: "Joe Alexander" , "MadMarx" Cc: fot@autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 8:54 AM I got a handfull of o-rings from Dave at TRF - they work well. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Alexander" To: "MadMarx" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] SU carb assembly. Lube? > That sounds like a great idea and a longer term solution. > > Thanks Chris. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 11, 2013, at 8:08 AM, "MadMarx" wrote: > >> I replaced cork with rubber o-rings. >> >> -----UrsprC> Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im >> Auftrag von Joe Alexander >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Juni 2013 02:23 >> An: fot@autox.team.net >> Betreff: [Fot] SU carb assembly. Lube? >> >> It's been 25 years since assembling a set of TR3A carbs. >> >> Any favorite assembly lube for cork seals, caveats, etc.? >> >> Thanks..... >> >> Joe A. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/stutzmans@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 12 14:09:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F59640514 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:09:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f180.google.com (mail-vc0-f180.google.com [209.85.220.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21608403E6 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:09:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f180.google.com with SMTP id gf11so4562982vcb.11 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:03:55 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=fh9JO40MPXl7TWXPv9VFHI+bcP70xCkemGQojZUaxfM=; b=AQi35ua8Cv0Vxh+x9IppC4kib8jvcduTpHPpgc+PGbImmzQfm+DE787KoOOE1hwcY7 d7FoNMlPVzB2W/HupmqoSFWTa4wxsmbvyL6KCdNJ19CLSplvAyasrUWPWr0vhNz+PK7C DcQb3+APU/GSVGDe6Q/fCsoKUaRtVhEEgeyZgpxV6o6DUWz9Ytkr7me8Rppzdl3xpa+0 /1wB+k2mYFvVfUC0cN0HrWEQyW6eN09EenIMxvufCqbjFGEDgnOSfnu5A52FL2zmPmk4 IVi/jPutMGe92Rvvl6fM+IXZImjOJuRRiGh0rAfqPswEpKVUWbb3MZ2iTxzc0ZK53tTM B2ZA== Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:03:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.151.49 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:03:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:03:55 -0500 From: Jason Ostrowski To: triumph friends Subject: [Fot] the greatest GT6 of all time Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It should be known already that the greatest GT6 racer of all time is John Reed. John and I have a nice ongoing GT6 based friendship that has lasted some 35+ years. From the early days of Showroom Stock thru the "giant killer" dp days in Midwestern Council, and finally the many vintage races in the more modern era. Well, let's just say the satchel full of log books that goes along with this car holds over 300 documented race weekends... most of them driven by John up towards the sharp end of grid. In it's British racing green Zippy Racing livery, the car is truly one of a kind. All those old races are visible and vibrant in its aging patina. Many unique mods and upgrades are both one of a kind and remarkably simplistic and smart in design. As a Father's Day gift to myself, John, and the legions of Triumph fans at the Blackhawk Classic this weekend.... The Zippy Racing GT6+ is coming out of hibernation for the first time in 6 years. After a life-long and loving relationship with the car as it's track mechanic and crew chief; I am, by far, the stupid car's greatest fan. AND FINALLY, THIS WEEKEND I WILL BE RACING IT MYSELF FOR THE FIRST TIME. I have prepped the car to perfection. Come out and take a whiff of this car's oil soaked glory at the Blackhawk Classic. Cant Make it this weekend? No problem. ALL THREE of our very different GT6 race cars will be on hand in the Friendly Ghost Racing paddock area for The Kastner Cup at Road America. But let it be known, this weekend I will be racing the Greatest GT6 of all time (sinister laugh out loud) Should be a pretty nice little Father's Day weekend! Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 12 15:12:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7221340533 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:12:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m08.mx.aol.com (omr-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.222.129]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65A6403E9 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:11:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.142]) by omr-m08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4238370000098; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 17:06:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mbd002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mbd002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.31.79]) by mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id DECB3E000087; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 17:06:46 -0400 (EDT) References: To: jason@multivintage.com, fot@autox.team.net From: kkjjk@aol.com Received: from 71.255.181.172 by Webmail-d103.sysops.aol.com (205.188.92.236) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 12 Jun 2013 17:06:46 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 17:06:46 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1371071207; bh=s3QoVdOyOL0b96xvqwNtK4KgbrJwefacV271jqaR/g0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eC9Dc94+AabPqXMIxHvukjXfOvTwFPznmOcaw3XLe9HTjHwHaf609pgV1nXDrhQOR lP0in43/lC08expsHw4Mwh5XYKCrpWw083+ZvbrAWelBvJCn0Zqd0NQqFUIHJTYYoq cnhRRGfvljcMXvO9kvarpp8Coo15ZjkDKWyRPIsU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338e51b8e2e60818 Subject: Re: [Fot] the greatest GT6 of all time Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Jason- Do you have pics of the GT6? Also, around the Holidays in December I had asked if someone could help me to get my GT6 on the track. A few people responded and I appreciated that. I lost their names/emails, and I have had very little luck in trying to get it out at Summit Point or other nearby track ( I live in Maryland). It seems that I have to go to school in order to get it out there. I just want to get some track time, not race. Perhaps in the future I would venture into that area and go to school, etc. It is a fully prepared car, and I have done many auto crosses in other cars as well as a 3 day Skip Barber competition school at Lime Rock MANY years ago. Is there someone whom can give me some guidance here? Thanks very much- Jay De Pol -----Original Message----- From: Jason Ostrowski To: triumph friends Sent: Wed, Jun 12, 2013 4:04 pm Subject: [Fot] the greatest GT6 of all time It should be known already that the greatest GT6 racer of all time is John Reed. John and I have a nice ongoing GT6 based friendship that has lasted some 35+ years. From the early days of Showroom Stock thru the "giant killer" dp days in Midwestern Council, and finally the many vintage races in the more modern era. Well, let's just say the satchel full of log books that goes along with this car holds over 300 documented race weekends... most of them driven by John up towards the sharp end of grid. In it's British racing green Zippy Racing livery, the car is truly one of a kind. All those old races are visible and vibrant in its aging patina. Many unique mods and upgrades are both one of a kind and remarkably simplistic and smart in design. As a Father's Day gift to myself, John, and the legions of Triumph fans at the Blackhawk Classic this weekend.... The Zippy Racing GT6+ is coming out of hibernation for the first time in 6 years. After a life-long and loving relationship with the car as it's track mechanic and crew chief; I am, by far, the stupid car's greatest fan. AND FINALLY, THIS WEEKEND I WILL BE RACING IT MYSELF FOR THE FIRST TIME. I have prepped the car to perfection. Come out and take a whiff of this car's oil soaked glory at the Blackhawk Classic. Cant Make it this weekend? No problem. ALL THREE of our very different GT6 race cars will be on hand in the Friendly Ghost Racing paddock area for The Kastner Cup at Road America. But let it be known, this weekend I will be racing the Greatest GT6 of all time (sinister laugh out loud) Should be a pretty nice little Father's Day weekend! Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 12 15:29:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AACC40541 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:29:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d02.mx.aol.com (omr-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069FC403DA for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:29:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.69]) by omr-d02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 84EDB7006F626; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 17:24:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 15FA4E000119; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 17:24:04 -0400 (EDT) References: From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:47:53 -0500 To: Jason Ostrowski x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1371072244; bh=iRmOz+bRyOAZDG1QFMSm6ibJCc6jbLgtpcex2mIratc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=TFAFg/WdXxJyZ6uVFz6XDlq/Ks2O8LAtbethdj/TVNkVj7r8R0XE1v5zP9j8q1tah 6f8f++TenLRHG8FiRBqOjJSMbTwQUN++S9Sh9v+hBK84C/W+/UlTn7+Y00xFfiNJBQ s76p0GJIkGT3ye27u04bB0yMDoj55mxfgjXu8RxQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294551b8e6f43ebc Cc: triumph friends Subject: Re: [Fot] the greatest GT6 of all time Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Could we be looking at more than six GT6s at the Kastner Cup? Sounds like a photo op, too. John Reed was Sean's driver instructor....we will be cheering you and the GT6 on this weekend. Sent from my iPad On Jun 12, 2013, at 3:03 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > It should be known already that the greatest GT6 racer of all time is John > Reed. > John and I have a nice ongoing GT6 based friendship that has lasted some > 35+ years. From the early days of Showroom Stock thru the "giant killer" dp > days in Midwestern Council, and finally the many vintage races in the more > modern era. > Well, let's just say the satchel full of log books that goes along with > this car holds over 300 documented race weekends... most of them driven by > John up towards the sharp end of grid. > In it's British racing green Zippy Racing livery, the car is truly one of a > kind. All those old races are visible and vibrant in its aging patina. Many > unique mods and upgrades are both one of a kind and remarkably simplistic > and smart in design. > As a Father's Day gift to myself, John, and the legions of Triumph fans at > the Blackhawk Classic this weekend.... The Zippy Racing GT6+ is coming out > of hibernation for the first time in 6 years. After a life-long and loving > relationship with the car as it's track mechanic and crew chief; I am, by > far, the stupid car's greatest fan. AND FINALLY, THIS WEEKEND I WILL BE > RACING IT MYSELF FOR THE FIRST TIME. > I have prepped the car to perfection. > Come out and take a whiff of this car's oil soaked glory at the Blackhawk > Classic. > Cant Make it this weekend? > No problem. > ALL THREE of our very different GT6 race cars will be on hand in > the Friendly Ghost Racing paddock area for The Kastner Cup at Road America. > > But let it be known, this weekend I will be racing the Greatest GT6 of all > time (sinister laugh out loud) > Should be a pretty nice little Father's Day weekend! > > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 12 15:39:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 142E540534 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:39:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mailrtr02.ntelos.net (mailrtr02.ntelos.net [216.12.0.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFAB840406 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:39:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from webmail.ntelos.net (webmail.lumos.net [209.145.64.96]) by mailrtr02.ntelos.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id r5CLYNkF001295; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 21:34:24 GMT Received: from d-128-234-204.bootp.Virginia.EDU (d-128-234-204.bootp.Virginia.EDU [128.143.234.204]) by webmail.ntelos.net with HTTP (SquirrelMail authenticated user rjl6n@cstone.net); Wed, 12 Jun 2013 17:34:24 -0400 References: <8D035C7E1E189B8-808-71B2@Webmail-d103.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 17:34:24 -0400 From: "R. John Lye" To: kkjjk@aol.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] the greatest GT6 of all time Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Jay, Have you looked into the "Fridays At the Track" program? It has been a couple of years since I raced at Summit Point (I live in Virginia), but before the race weekends, they often held practice sessions. I can't recall if you were required to have a competition license for that or not. If not, you might look into the NASA HPDE program (High Performance Driver Education). You would have an instructor for at least the first few session, and then if they were comfortable with you, they will let you loose. There are several grades, with "no passing" at first going up to "limited passing", and then finally "full passing" groups. I hope that helps, John On Wed, June 12, 2013 5:06 pm, kkjjk@aol.com wrote: > Jason- Do you have pics of the GT6? Also, around the Holidays in December > I > had asked if someone could help me to get my GT6 on the track. A few > people > responded and I appreciated that. I lost their names/emails, and I have > had > very little luck in trying to get it out at Summit Point or other nearby > track > ( I live in Maryland). It seems that I have to go to school in order to > get > it out there. I just want to get some track time, not race. Perhaps in > the > future I would venture into that area and go to school, etc. It is a > fully > prepared car, and I have done many auto crosses in other cars as well as a > 3 > day Skip Barber competition school at Lime Rock MANY years ago. Is there > someone whom can give me some guidance here? Thanks very much- Jay De Pol > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Ostrowski > To: triumph friends > Sent: Wed, Jun 12, 2013 4:04 pm > Subject: [Fot] the greatest GT6 of all time > > > It should be known already that the greatest GT6 racer of all time is John > Reed. > John and I have a nice ongoing GT6 based friendship that has lasted some > 35+ years. From the early days of Showroom Stock thru the "giant killer" > dp > days in Midwestern Council, and finally the many vintage races in the more > modern era. > Well, let's just say the satchel full of log books that goes along with > this car holds over 300 documented race weekends... most of them driven by > John up towards the sharp end of grid. > In it's British racing green Zippy Racing livery, the car is truly one of > a > kind. All those old races are visible and vibrant in its aging patina. > Many > unique mods and upgrades are both one of a kind and remarkably simplistic > and smart in design. > As a Father's Day gift to myself, John, and the legions of Triumph fans at > the Blackhawk Classic this weekend.... The Zippy Racing GT6+ is coming out > of hibernation for the first time in 6 years. After a life-long and loving > relationship with the car as it's track mechanic and crew chief; I am, by > far, the stupid car's greatest fan. AND FINALLY, THIS WEEKEND I WILL BE > RACING IT MYSELF FOR THE FIRST TIME. > I have prepped the car to perfection. > Come out and take a whiff of this car's oil soaked glory at the Blackhawk > Classic. > Cant Make it this weekend? > No problem. > ALL THREE of our very different GT6 race cars will be on hand in > the Friendly Ghost Racing paddock area for The Kastner Cup at Road > America. > > But let it be known, this weekend I will be racing the Greatest GT6 of all > time (sinister laugh out loud) > Should be a pretty nice little Father's Day weekend! > > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 12 15:57:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A2F4044C for ; 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Wed, 12 Jun 2013 17:15:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d07.mx.aol.com (omr-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37CA40079 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 17:13:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by omr-d07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 194667003756A; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 19:08:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mbd002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mbd002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.31.79]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D4115E000082; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 19:08:01 -0400 (EDT) References: <8D035C7E1E189B8-808-71B2@Webmail-d103.sysops.aol.com> To: rjl6n@cstone.net Received: from 71.255.181.172 by Webmail-d103.sysops.aol.com (205.188.92.236) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 12 Jun 2013 19:08:01 -0400 From: kkjjk@aol.com Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 19:08:01 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1371078482; bh=KOwKjUy18L/gH9IeJYYKS5RZE25eA55qDQ2n2mZVtAQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LvmEEiHSc5zWVnn7NAya53HfLRhpbg9czvmO6QRKT5HhMYQr6Wy3fqn2Kp6mXmaJC 3pAA8tgRyAVnfvWjtwaMu+BzZC7gtEOzWd1NIBXrzsMKFHiOxuB9LL5mqUFDYUW+0I CM0CEHPgnxKT4aurQlUcDPz1MltNGOrjN/4/dDNQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c51b8ff51227f Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] the greatest GT6 of all time Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, John- Thanks for your response. I was at Summit Point a week ago Friday, my kids gave me some laps in an F430 (lots of fun). I inquired about Fridays at the Track at that time, and the woman there said I have to go through at least 4 sessions with two different instructors and be signed off before being let loose. I told her it was a race car and not a street car and she said that was ok (although I have to install another seat). That was all fine with me. I called the track a few days later to speak with the Fridays track manager, and although I did not speak directly to him, I was told by someone else that no race cars are allowed at Fridays at the Track!. Do you know if the NASA HPDE program is offered at Summit Point? Do they have a website? Thanks for the info.-- Jay -----Original Message----- From: R. John Lye To: kkjjk Cc: jason ; fot Sent: Wed, Jun 12, 2013 5:34 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] the greatest GT6 of all time Jay, Have you looked into the "Fridays At the Track" program? It has been a couple of years since I raced at Summit Point (I live in Virginia), but before the race weekends, they often held practice sessions. I can't recall if you were required to have a competition license for that or not. If not, you might look into the NASA HPDE program (High Performance Driver Education). You would have an instructor for at least the first few session, and then if they were comfortable with you, they will let you loose. There are several grades, with "no passing" at first going up to "limited passing", and then finally "full passing" groups. I hope that helps, John On Wed, June 12, 2013 5:06 pm, kkjjk@aol.com wrote: > Jason- Do you have pics of the GT6? Also, around the Holidays in December > I > had asked if someone could help me to get my GT6 on the track. A few > people > responded and I appreciated that. I lost their names/emails, and I have > had > very little luck in trying to get it out at Summit Point or other nearby > track > ( I live in Maryland). It seems that I have to go to school in order to > get > it out there. I just want to get some track time, not race. Perhaps in > the > future I would venture into that area and go to school, etc. It is a > fully > prepared car, and I have done many auto crosses in other cars as well as a > 3 > day Skip Barber competition school at Lime Rock MANY years ago. Is there > someone whom can give me some guidance here? Thanks very much- Jay De Pol > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Ostrowski > To: triumph friends > Sent: Wed, Jun 12, 2013 4:04 pm > Subject: [Fot] the greatest GT6 of all time > > > It should be known already that the greatest GT6 racer of all time is John > Reed. > John and I have a nice ongoing GT6 based friendship that has lasted some > 35+ years. From the early days of Showroom Stock thru the "giant killer" > dp > days in Midwestern Council, and finally the many vintage races in the more > modern era. > Well, let's just say the satchel full of log books that goes along with > this car holds over 300 documented race weekends... most of them driven by > John up towards the sharp end of grid. > In it's British racing green Zippy Racing livery, the car is truly one of > a > kind. All those old races are visible and vibrant in its aging patina. > Many > unique mods and upgrades are both one of a kind and remarkably simplistic > and smart in design. > As a Father's Day gift to myself, John, and the legions of Triumph fans at > the Blackhawk Classic this weekend.... The Zippy Racing GT6+ is coming out > of hibernation for the first time in 6 years. After a life-long and loving > relationship with the car as it's track mechanic and crew chief; I am, by > far, the stupid car's greatest fan. AND FINALLY, THIS WEEKEND I WILL BE > RACING IT MYSELF FOR THE FIRST TIME. > I have prepped the car to perfection. > Come out and take a whiff of this car's oil soaked glory at the Blackhawk > Classic. > Cant Make it this weekend? > No problem. > ALL THREE of our very different GT6 race cars will be on hand in > the Friendly Ghost Racing paddock area for The Kastner Cup at Road > America. > > But let it be known, this weekend I will be racing the Greatest GT6 of all > time (sinister laugh out loud) > Should be a pretty nice little Father's Day weekend! > > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 12 21:16:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4CE4044C for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 21:16:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc3-s10.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc3-s10.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.149]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7778C40524 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 21:16:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT402-EAS276 ([65.55.90.135]) by snt0-omc3-s10.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 12 Jun 2013 20:10:54 -0700 References: <14DC77EB-7B97-4B17-9CCE-F2C4CBBCF6F1@cs.com> From: Vince G Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 23:10:52 -0400 To: Joe Alexander FILETIME=[9E1163E0:01CE67E3] Cc: triumph friends Subject: Re: [Fot] the greatest GT6 of all time Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That's awesome. I look forward to the Kastner cup event. On 2013-06-12, at 5:24 PM, "Joe Alexander" wrote: > Could we be looking at more than six GT6s at the Kastner Cup? > > Sounds like a photo op, too. > > John Reed was Sean's driver instructor....we will be cheering you and the GT6 > on this weekend. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 12, 2013, at 3:03 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > >> It should be known already that the greatest GT6 racer of all time is John >> Reed. >> John and I have a nice ongoing GT6 based friendship that has lasted some >> 35+ years. From the early days of Showroom Stock thru the "giant killer" dp >> days in Midwestern Council, and finally the many vintage races in the more >> modern era. >> Well, let's just say the satchel full of log books that goes along with >> this car holds over 300 documented race weekends... most of them driven by >> John up towards the sharp end of grid. >> In it's British racing green Zippy Racing livery, the car is truly one of a >> kind. All those old races are visible and vibrant in its aging patina. Many >> unique mods and upgrades are both one of a kind and remarkably simplistic >> and smart in design. >> As a Father's Day gift to myself, John, and the legions of Triumph fans at >> the Blackhawk Classic this weekend.... The Zippy Racing GT6+ is coming out >> of hibernation for the first time in 6 years. After a life-long and loving >> relationship with the car as it's track mechanic and crew chief; I am, by >> far, the stupid car's greatest fan. AND FINALLY, THIS WEEKEND I WILL BE >> RACING IT MYSELF FOR THE FIRST TIME. >> I have prepped the car to perfection. >> Come out and take a whiff of this car's oil soaked glory at the Blackhawk >> Classic. >> Cant Make it this weekend? >> No problem. >> ALL THREE of our very different GT6 race cars will be on hand in >> the Friendly Ghost Racing paddock area for The Kastner Cup at Road America. >> >> But let it be known, this weekend I will be racing the Greatest GT6 of all >> time (sinister laugh out loud) >> Should be a pretty nice little Father's Day weekend! >> >> Jason Ostrowski >> Friendly Ghost Racing >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 13 05:17:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B230D40434 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 05:17:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1974240420 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 05:16:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.23.216]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MOB00IDHWFCH850@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 06:11:38 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "R. John Lye" , References: <8D035C7E1E189B8-808-71B2@Webmail-d103.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 07:11:33 -0400 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] the greatest GT6 of all time Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Jay, go to Nelson's Ledges website. They have Fun Days, with 3 run classes. They encourage SCCA guys to bring their cars for shakedown runs in class 3. It's a hike, near Youngstown, but lots of track time. BeaveRun (PITRACE) has a similar program. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "R. John Lye" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] the greatest GT6 of all time > Jay, > > Have you looked into the "Fridays At the Track" program? > It has been a couple of years since I raced at Summit > Point (I live in Virginia), but before the race weekends, > they often held practice sessions. I can't recall if you > were required to have a competition license for that or > not. If not, you might look into the NASA HPDE program > (High Performance Driver Education). You would have an > instructor for at least the first few session, and then > if they were comfortable with you, they will let you > loose. There are several grades, with "no passing" at > first going up to "limited passing", and then finally > "full passing" groups. > > I hope that helps, > John > > On Wed, June 12, 2013 5:06 pm, kkjjk@aol.com wrote: >> Jason- Do you have pics of the GT6? Also, around the Holidays in >> December >> I >> had asked if someone could help me to get my GT6 on the track. A few >> people >> responded and I appreciated that. I lost their names/emails, and I have >> had >> very little luck in trying to get it out at Summit Point or other nearby >> track >> ( I live in Maryland). It seems that I have to go to school in order to >> get >> it out there. I just want to get some track time, not race. Perhaps in >> the >> future I would venture into that area and go to school, etc. It is a >> fully >> prepared car, and I have done many auto crosses in other cars as well as >> a >> 3 >> day Skip Barber competition school at Lime Rock MANY years ago. Is there >> someone whom can give me some guidance here? Thanks very much- Jay De >> Pol >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jason Ostrowski >> To: triumph friends >> Sent: Wed, Jun 12, 2013 4:04 pm >> Subject: [Fot] the greatest GT6 of all time >> >> >> It should be known already that the greatest GT6 racer of all time is >> John >> Reed. >> John and I have a nice ongoing GT6 based friendship that has lasted some >> 35+ years. From the early days of Showroom Stock thru the "giant killer" >> dp >> days in Midwestern Council, and finally the many vintage races in the >> more >> modern era. >> Well, let's just say the satchel full of log books that goes along with >> this car holds over 300 documented race weekends... most of them driven >> by >> John up towards the sharp end of grid. >> In it's British racing green Zippy Racing livery, the car is truly one of >> a >> kind. All those old races are visible and vibrant in its aging patina. >> Many >> unique mods and upgrades are both one of a kind and remarkably simplistic >> and smart in design. >> As a Father's Day gift to myself, John, and the legions of Triumph fans >> at >> the Blackhawk Classic this weekend.... The Zippy Racing GT6+ is coming >> out >> of hibernation for the first time in 6 years. After a life-long and >> loving >> relationship with the car as it's track mechanic and crew chief; I am, by >> far, the stupid car's greatest fan. AND FINALLY, THIS WEEKEND I WILL BE >> RACING IT MYSELF FOR THE FIRST TIME. >> I have prepped the car to perfection. >> Come out and take a whiff of this car's oil soaked glory at the Blackhawk >> Classic. >> Cant Make it this weekend? >> No problem. >> ALL THREE of our very different GT6 race cars will be on hand in >> the Friendly Ghost Racing paddock area for The Kastner Cup at Road >> America. >> >> But let it be known, this weekend I will be racing the Greatest GT6 of >> all >> time (sinister laugh out loud) >> Should be a pretty nice little Father's Day weekend! >> >> Jason Ostrowski >> Friendly Ghost Racing >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk@aol.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 13 16:21:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E302142B1C for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:21:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C3240042 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 15:27:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vwm25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (vwm25.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.10.55]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0MOC004M2OGMHG00@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for FOT@autox.team.net; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 17:17:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [67.83.138.143] by webtop.webmail.optimum.net with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 17:17:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 17:17:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Redmond To: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Subject: [Fot] Rear axle rebuild Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FoT, Anyone in, or know of anyone in, Northern NJ who has experience in rebuilding the rear axle for the TR3? I'll deliver. If not, who might I ship this to for the rebuild. It is a southwick axle. The carrier has been removed from another axle. (Thanks Greg and Allison Blake for the rope trick) I have all the parts, including bearings, ring and pinon but no knowledge. I think this one is better left to experience. Thanks Todd _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 13 17:53:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD2042E85 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 17:53:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FCE142736 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:34:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.68]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 869137005DCF9; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 18:29:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 0122DE0001F2; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 18:29:31 -0400 (EDT) References: From: Joe Alexander Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 17:26:58 -0500 To: Todd Redmond x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1371162572; bh=hnR+3FY/vZP4fe6fQa7xdCqOg4H+y8z8+yHWXt11YQ8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=SdDJGSY4pVPjbmNroJWrM/np2cuRkvpZnfGLu1hp4qCjN3OlNg93l/6UStEHtnDW/ YN3zbti46bjjrylseOCAoKrWb3LDAc4O1cD4xddk/N1hzzOSFo942AVd8iP7loteXm QlvV74uKzVBeSnixGVkpkUrQPMyoLxtqVDGuDpaA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294451ba47cb642d Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear axle rebuild Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Matt Bakes. Triumph Rescue in Bally, PA Sent from my iPad On Jun 13, 2013, at 4:17 PM, Todd Redmond wrote: > FoT, > > Anyone in, or know of anyone in, Northern NJ who has experience in rebuilding the rear axle for the TR3? I'll deliver. > If not, who might I ship this to for the rebuild. It is a southwick axle. The carrier has been removed from another axle. (Thanks Greg and Allison Blake for the rope trick) > > I have all the parts, including bearings, ring and pinon but no knowledge. I think this one is better left to experience. > > Thanks > Todd > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 13 19:16:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6EF44332 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:16:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06104276B for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 18:22:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from new-host-4.home (pool-108-16-249-182.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [108.16.249.182]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MOC00C07WQYFN90@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 00:16:12 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-06-13_09:2013-06-12,2013-06-13,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=11 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1305010000 definitions=main-1306130208 From: Scott Janzen Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:16:10 -0400 References: <73DF3583-134F-4527-A58C-39C7421A34B9@cs.com> To: Todd Redmond Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear axle rebuild Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net agreed - not right around the corner from you - about an hour northwest of Phila, so you would head out to Allentown and a little southwest, but Matt's a great guy and has a really cool shop to visit. On Jun 13, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: Matt Bakes. Triumph Rescue in Bally, PA Sent from my iPad On Jun 13, 2013, at 4:17 PM, Todd Redmond wrote: > FoT, > > Anyone in, or know of anyone in, Northern NJ who has experience in rebuilding the rear axle for the TR3? I'll deliver. > If not, who might I ship this to for the rebuild. It is a southwick axle. The carrier has been removed from another axle. (Thanks Greg and Allison Blake for the rope trick) > > I have all the parts, including bearings, ring and pinon but no knowledge. I think this one is better left to experience. > > Thanks > Todd > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 13 20:05:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC5A42873 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:05:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D68A43193 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:16:06 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=gG5DQpUNAaww/Kr6tJL+rA==:17 a=zgvILx03LV0A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=dSnWJcL1BxIA:10 a=xRfjoxBpAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=MqnJXBN-uTkTn6NOh8cA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=bgAgzZxQv2QA:10 a=gG5DQpUNAaww/Kr6tJL+rA==:117 Received: from [70.112.94.250] ([70.112.94.250:63961] helo=[192.168.1.104]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 54/D9-20229-29D6AB15; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 01:10:42 +0000 References: From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:10:41 -0500 To: Todd Redmond Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear axle rebuild Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Glad it worked for ya. On Jun 13, 2013, at 4:17 PM, Todd Redmond wrote: > FoT, > > Anyone in, or know of anyone in, Northern NJ who has experience in rebuilding the rear axle for the TR3? I'll deliver. > If not, who might I ship this to for the rebuild. It is a southwick axle. The carrier has been removed from another axle. (Thanks Greg and Allison Blake for the rope trick) > > I have all the parts, including bearings, ring and pinon but no knowledge. I think this one is better left to experience. > > Thanks > Todd > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 13 20:52:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29034286F for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:52:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s50.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s50.snt0.hotmail.com [65.54.61.101]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2410A403B9 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:46:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT141-W46 ([65.55.90.71]) by snt0-omc2-s50.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 13 Jun 2013 18:41:02 -0700 From: Tony and Annie Garmey To: Joe Alexander , Todd Redmond Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 18:41:02 -0700 References: , <73DF3583-134F-4527-A58C-39C7421A34B9@cs.com> FILETIME=[3A8B8040:01CE68A0] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear axle rebuild Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net shameless Plug www.horizonracing.com Not just limited to fast Triumph's . > From: n197tr4@cs.com > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 17:26:58 -0500 > To: alfetta95@optonline.net > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear axle rebuild > > Matt Bakes. Triumph Rescue in Bally, PA > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 13, 2013, at 4:17 PM, Todd Redmond wrote: > > > FoT, > > > > Anyone in, or know of anyone in, Northern NJ who has experience in > rebuilding the rear axle for the TR3? I'll deliver. > > If not, who might I ship this to for the rebuild. It is a southwick axle. > The carrier has been removed from another axle. (Thanks Greg and Allison Blake > for the rope trick) > > > > I have all the parts, including bearings, ring and pinon but no knowledge. > I think this one is better left to experience. > > > > Thanks > > Todd > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 13 21:38:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4761842922 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 21:38:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 275DB40426 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:35:40 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=uiAO8778AwQ+Bc8qGSFdzw==:17 a=GOPlqqooATQA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=dSnWJcL1BxIA:10 a=xRfjoxBpAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=skxPwz0JFMeGd7c5l8oA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=bgAgzZxQv2QA:10 a=uiAO8778AwQ+Bc8qGSFdzw==:117 Received: from [166.137.122.136] ([166.137.122.136:54877] helo=[10.109.45.37]) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 3C/E1-07131-1308AB15; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 02:30:14 +0000 References: From: Bob Kramer Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 21:30:08 -0500 To: Greg And Alison Blake Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear axle rebuild Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That makes three rope tricks. Pulling a head, pulling a diff carrier and pulling your dead Triumph back into the paddock. Bob Kramer Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2013, at 8:10 PM, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: > Glad it worked for ya. > > > On Jun 13, 2013, at 4:17 PM, Todd Redmond wrote: > >> FoT, >> >> Anyone in, or know of anyone in, Northern NJ who has experience in > rebuilding the rear axle for the TR3? I'll deliver. >> If not, who might I ship this to for the rebuild. It is a southwick axle. > The carrier has been removed from another axle. (Thanks Greg and Allison Blake > for the rope trick) >> >> I have all the parts, including bearings, ring and pinon but no knowledge. > I think this one is better left to experience. >> >> Thanks >> Todd >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 13 22:48:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708F8427FD for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 22:48:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com (omr-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CCC940043 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 06:10:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.140]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 2B427700000A0; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 08:05:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mbd002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mbd002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.31.79]) by mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D1123E000086; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 08:04:59 -0400 (EDT) References: <8D035C7E1E189B8-808-71B2@Webmail-d103.sysops.aol.com> To: william.tobin31@verizon.net, rjl6n@cstone.net Received: from 72.84.137.250 by Webmail-d103.sysops.aol.com (205.188.92.236) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 13 Jun 2013 08:04:59 -0400 From: kkjjk@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 08:04:59 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1371125100; bh=crai6GKi+LRJcSPRHPLyAyxo/dQMoIN8oQR5sM4XABA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MQ+/mFvqYa/6WrG8avItQgE/63IQrpF2e6Z8fvcS08ptx2io+7iMb+35NYNZOe/wC r4lNM+D4p7WyOEeoEbER/KaSwp45XSKvAe125VQzct+fkUntEJaM6adFOGy9nwJAlJ 0srVl0+tMDifMQaEcZ34oOZSIZ/tYVgzCTKVrXRc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338c51b9b56b21db Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] the greatest GT6 of all time Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ok, Bill , thanks for the info. I will look into what everyone has told me! Thanks-- Jay -----Original Message----- From: Bill Tobin To: R. John Lye ; kkjjk Cc: fot Sent: Thu, Jun 13, 2013 7:11 am Subject: Re: [Fot] the greatest GT6 of all time Jay, go to Nelson's Ledges website. They have Fun Days, with 3 run classes. They encourage SCCA guys to bring their cars for shakedown runs in class 3. It's a hike, near Youngstown, but lots of track time. BeaveRun (PITRACE) has a similar program. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "R. John Lye" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] the greatest GT6 of all time > Jay, > > Have you looked into the "Fridays At the Track" program? > It has been a couple of years since I raced at Summit > Point (I live in Virginia), but before the race weekends, > they often held practice sessions. I can't recall if you > were required to have a competition license for that or > not. If not, you might look into the NASA HPDE program > (High Performance Driver Education). You would have an > instructor for at least the first few session, and then > if they were comfortable with you, they will let you > loose. There are several grades, with "no passing" at > first going up to "limited passing", and then finally > "full passing" groups. > > I hope that helps, > John > > On Wed, June 12, 2013 5:06 pm, kkjjk@aol.com wrote: >> Jason- Do you have pics of the GT6? Also, around the Holidays in >> December >> I >> had asked if someone could help me to get my GT6 on the track. A few >> people >> responded and I appreciated that. I lost their names/emails, and I have >> had >> very little luck in trying to get it out at Summit Point or other nearby >> track >> ( I live in Maryland). It seems that I have to go to school in order to >> get >> it out there. I just want to get some track time, not race. Perhaps in >> the >> future I would venture into that area and go to school, etc. It is a >> fully >> prepared car, and I have done many auto crosses in other cars as well as >> a >> 3 >> day Skip Barber competition school at Lime Rock MANY years ago. Is there >> someone whom can give me some guidance here? Thanks very much- Jay De >> Pol >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jason Ostrowski >> To: triumph friends >> Sent: Wed, Jun 12, 2013 4:04 pm >> Subject: [Fot] the greatest GT6 of all time >> >> >> It should be known already that the greatest GT6 racer of all time is >> John >> Reed. >> John and I have a nice ongoing GT6 based friendship that has lasted some >> 35+ years. From the early days of Showroom Stock thru the "giant killer" >> dp >> days in Midwestern Council, and finally the many vintage races in the >> more >> modern era. >> Well, let's just say the satchel full of log books that goes along with >> this car holds over 300 documented race weekends... most of them driven >> by >> John up towards the sharp end of grid. >> In it's British racing green Zippy Racing livery, the car is truly one of >> a >> kind. All those old races are visible and vibrant in its aging patina. >> Many >> unique mods and upgrades are both one of a kind and remarkably simplistic >> and smart in design. >> As a Father's Day gift to myself, John, and the legions of Triumph fans >> at >> the Blackhawk Classic this weekend.... The Zippy Racing GT6+ is coming >> out >> of hibernation for the first time in 6 years. After a life-long and >> loving >> relationship with the car as it's track mechanic and crew chief; I am, by >> far, the stupid car's greatest fan. AND FINALLY, THIS WEEKEND I WILL BE >> RACING IT MYSELF FOR THE FIRST TIME. >> I have prepped the car to perfection. >> Come out and take a whiff of this car's oil soaked glory at the Blackhawk >> Classic. >> Cant Make it this weekend? >> No problem. >> ALL THREE of our very different GT6 race cars will be on hand in >> the Friendly Ghost Racing paddock area for The Kastner Cup at Road >> America. >> >> But let it be known, this weekend I will be racing the Greatest GT6 of >> all >> time (sinister laugh out loud) >> Should be a pretty nice little Father's Day weekend! >> >> Jason Ostrowski >> Friendly Ghost Racing >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk@aol.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 14 19:02:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E1740046 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 19:02:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s13.blu0.hotmail.com (unknown [65.55.111.88]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96966403FA for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 18:20:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W47 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s13.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 14 Jun 2013 14:31:10 -0700 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 17:31:10 -0400 References: FILETIME=[7D2EA840:01CE6946] Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Shirts and Drivers, second to last call. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Second to last call. If you are planning on competing in the Kastner Cup event at Road America in September and have not given me your name and car info so I can include you on the back of the shirt you might want to do so. You can always notify me at "last call" in July and tell me to remove your info if you decide you wont be making it. We currently have a little over 60 drivers planning on attending. There is a current list of participants on the FOT web site now. Also, if you are going to order shirts and have not done so you should get that done. The cutoff date for orders will be July 7th. For the shirt order I will need your name and address, how many of what size shirts you want, whether you want the shirts mailed to you or if you will be picking them up at the track. Again, for payment, after I place the order in July you will need to contact Ted S. and make arrangements to pay him directly. OK, now read the shirt order info again as there is always questions on this. :) If you have done the above you would have received a confirmation email from me at that time so no need to resend. All shirts are pre-order. Thanks, _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 15 16:53:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 033E440453 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 16:53:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm43-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm43-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.120.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9F44006F for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 10:35:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm43.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jun 2013 16:34:11 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.165] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jun 2013 16:34:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1021.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jun 2013 16:34:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 70201 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Jun 2013 16:34:11 -0000 s=s1024; t=1371314051; bh=0yig/NlefMIhGsXxFrFZTc+p8gYRrpv8MWvrEm03pRQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=L5fffC8m67TrKr68b7m+HY2aIDNWdgdFMIFuFv75nt5mRNj89siPOGaNA0P/kS3iy98L2L/dJbvggiDPoe3G+9yhVz9Y0yNpUPS08cyM13DdqX+98FJXrnmKru9cqdCHlMu8iBhY2+TvqZbmxn9jnmGI0qQN+Gz7s3dcmP/aDKo= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3H1T69mz6byc5ZrTv3VQ5S0f3P+KpyFPZ5XOA4U1Rbrda/P7W/cb54JYsGsaSTNkoib7S/2F/eVPWSJu9oV7SxxHWm37scMPgDD1qJR6BPnWZrQBlQBG1Cj29tswpQMhtZPscYuSvmAiIZxAM+MnLZzSHliVXachH0N8sA/72Tg=; oeuohOY6NdEUoX_SE6NUpjkN.pCgRPqTEDf.34.Z8lDNJETwW54QEbdczCqw 7Sqca1w0fl9BaV0AwRHe0VUoodbyPXxvQlKTeG1ZUuw0tpsJ0on1_ax8OyF0 CeNyh9mq3o8wZdjZO25.1v4yZHOaJRvWERJB1Z039sit1MCkkn3CFu5JGqnt DDS7uAJc1IcDFGyar7_tcYxxXIhv0CcC7Jo5Tq_TWetlxOnI0TmPmsZ41593 OPsq97av5aQpApVNJtX5j.tLl9F_OuIfYT02rLaJHicFAYJjdave3KTroZRL 50HgL5J38fNQXKGuQ4saO2MTunLyIVGDbKhwijKTledBMMzUaSBMGUcYFV9Y 82odGl6aokClEQ75mxJgO4XsVBXSetmaiNxrgeDALpGY3upmpX7rKO1RgnHY _KzThEt58hrGgiSlHgznnO5q3SaSfMI4nGtZSgt.pVTt0DQY1Sf.o2yh55o3 qtRYFjbmR8WKBiTzTRmPG3ju6XvV_9Hu74.44NfWpX2uNsDO3GTTFKqDtvau WBxSbZU3fXYNzSNI31ub329ECNOAF85kimumGJe391JiqjpK_MKKFOxR77t4 ZEc9LJTL6uj_IUjLtkO_V2gHxQ0B3m_T5x87oo7KJA9DcsgApZh1B Received: from [178.42.203.47] by web122205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 09:34:11 PDT SGVsbG8hCiBodHRwOi8vd3d3LmdyYXppZWxsYXdhZXNjaGUuZGUvZHRvemZ2L3hpcWEvdHdsZHp4ZHlna2NtZ3lpL3F3cmxpcW53cGVoam9jai5odG0KCgogTWFyayBXaGVhdGxleQoKCgoKIGxzdGduATABAQEB Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 09:34:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Wheatley To: Kevin Foote , fot , fubog1 , Justin Gargiulo , gasket works Subject: Re: [Fot] Mark Wheatley Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello! http://www.graziellawaesche.de/dtozfv/xiqa/twldzxdygkcmgyi/qwrliqnwpehjocj.htm Mark Wheatley lstgn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 15 17:14:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5265E427FA for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 17:14:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B0C400A5 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 17:00:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F0EAA0792 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 17:02:15 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 17:02:15 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: fot References: <1371314051.66612.YahooMailNeo@web122205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Mark Wheatley Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry folks, I clicked the wrong button, that spam from Mark W's hijacked address was supposed to be thrown away, not sent out. Oh, and by the way the Team.Net network connection has been acting up, I'll try to get it figured out soon. Hopefully it won't end up dying all together for want of a part I can't get on a weekend. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 17 02:53:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44214038B for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 02:53:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f52.google.com (mail-bk0-f52.google.com [209.85.214.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31564032A for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 02:53:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-bk0-f52.google.com with SMTP id d7so1026874bkh.39 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 01:52:02 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=6G31g4K4IhRkusveyjGn7KeXE28XpZWzo3Fi5UVvA+A=; b=weMHeUBwBFOVfmdLtOAGtZlHbZEpkXlW6SYhTT+uYJaAvJTuhAIMzAu9H4X8I1hagJ qApI+x6ZhG5e3inSrcuatrDNZ5LsDvXAf1MToMoDFjIzuyqnWTs2ZimYdXOrLlHEiigV l2Wm8pvNvBiSHLQ9Bu6XDqJ35/ENtM1y7F21K04jbHAN4Cyb0r+cvueppFJpqrBULwJC LZMAvr5nycvzJG5VspXGALHitTPdMMvj+T5OeLkgq0cH8cnWqeJZGgB0hA61s4h+Jmo6 IKbrCGElqOKDqLNNJcrg8sXaThIF9qRHoCjKdZOXHnqpH3Hi2LqLkvWVkSLvT9dM0bFd YJRQ== rg6mr1779543bkb.101.1371459122337; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 01:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.173.155.245]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 2sm2241069bkn.16.2013.06.17.01.52.00 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 17 Jun 2013 01:52:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'triumph friends'" References: <14DC77EB-7B97-4B17-9CCE-F2C4CBBCF6F1@cs.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:52:08 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac5nsy9C9MV20Q5hSkavJQULNsiRUADhKqhg Content-Language: de Subject: [Fot] Spa Summer Classic race 1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Some little race footage from Spa: http://youtu.be/wWhX03q-u6o Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 17 08:08:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C90403EE for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 08:08:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f50.google.com (mail-ee0-f50.google.com [74.125.83.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF57B403CF for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 08:03:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f50.google.com with SMTP id d49so1806239eek.23 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 07:02:39 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=IUU9HrMpBCCDIVtRZJvcF+C/kKYwD7c2/5KM+K/Mq9Y=; b=XLRzGrTDHZO8P7HEYXv1grWLrIMquCgYtqIwJnQXX8J1TaZeWARUa+w4vGhvl2tLhm nGuBax1ajDw2XYwJ9+L5nxx4XhnP4W4I/lLJj28vxNAQrZF6Jkk4COqATnX2081TmVZF OuzgX2I5z/JOhkiHJnEYZPYgrg9HqKgPQ4hxy35CHJA6wr6lhzkx4s17hmu6S0unz0UE gFZGIK84kJDtz/h9UMjOmtmoFRgxC94JwRlcSYRRGca6O7AvCINxgAWTZNPsxDsqL9bP EPhoHU1Bs15L44wqygugK9muUZFTQQ6thtspdSa00tkRV8XM+yoWYX6Hu3qaO5A7RTx6 Qc6g== bn43mr10077358eeb.153.1371477758950; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 07:02:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home (ip-109-84-124-2.web.vodafone.de. [109.84.124.2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bj46sm15076101eeb.13.2013.06.17.07.02.37 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 17 Jun 2013 07:02:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'triumph friends'" References: <14DC77EB-7B97-4B17-9CCE-F2C4CBBCF6F1@cs.com> <002401ce6b37$f441f660$dcc5e320$@com> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 16:02:46 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac5rOMbr0qp+a8hJS4CT95jDIXEdaAAKmLlA Content-Language: de Subject: [Fot] Spa Summer Classic race 1+2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > Some little race footage from Spa: > Race 1: http://youtu.be/wWhX03q-u6o Race 2: http://youtu.be/SMyNiaaKJ_8 > > Cheers > Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 17 08:08:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF3640544 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 08:08:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m04.mx.aol.com (omr-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F380E403CF for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 08:05:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.68]) by omr-m04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id ECBF270000089 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:04:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 9FF4BE00009B for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:04:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 09:04:31 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1371477871; bh=lS11xxN/ATtUM2cswH8oUg8yb61fD1o43b3y89MC2vU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=ipunBdjaiIG3XsZ4+r9wQhLiwTMqePxriu3efUhjMBTbxuySAuU4pgNRcYQenvbqc MDpPlgRlUnN+2+F2FHdsabkLJDcQVdDk5Owu1NMd7s7lIhCc7A4DGS9X+Fk6GT1mRF Rk9fVGiNfQ87JrPoamlFN6dApd2ozmTAwPG5IEbk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294451bf176f2d8b Subject: [Fot] KCup Crew Assignments Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Meeting with VSDA Sunday........ If you do not have a Crew Assignment with your favorite driver, we have something special for you. Your crew assignment will be the famous TR-250K You will have the choice of two Triumph Packages. The first package gets you weekend entry to the ELVF, Welcome Dinner Friday night, and Triumph Paddock Parking in a prime location, if you have a Triumph. This is $40.00. The second package gives you the above features but add Old Course Reenactment on Saturday afternoon, and one of two days of RA Track Touring. This is $85.00. Both of these packages give you a pre-grid lap prior to the Kastner Cup, on Sunday, if you are driving a TR and wish to do so. Forms for registering will be available in a week to ten days. They will be posted on the FOT website. Your requirement will be to complete this registration and send it to VSCDA prior to the first of AUGUST. Upon arrival at the event, you will enter through Gate 6, with the drivers, and go directly to VSCDA Registration to pick up your wrist bands and schedules. The FOT will be assisting at registration. The initial offering will be to the FOT. The next offerings will be to the Triumph Community at large. Thanks to Bill Hart and Tony Garmey for making these Crew positions available, and to the VSCDA for making these Triumph Package Deals available to us. Joe Alexander _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 17 08:53:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D6640523 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 08:53:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FD2B40398 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 08:50:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.5]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 123557008EE98 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:49:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 81070E0000B7 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:49:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 09:49:23 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1371480564; bh=VcJUVFsKFErgnUjji0ezCpF+H5BB4ujSjYT/oNl9GJc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=TTc/1bwQxQlAtRoo4NQbbGw8LPqIMjmPonSPqgGRkgpEKPlh2lYYzMJQ05BC9NGtP Vxhpnt9XA+/SxSYtbNGEif2hwfFVLjgtUtcc84RxiPLpNIA8Oa5d+9xKZ59ivpRzj1 1b2+6uY4xocnxH8UyGzbfxwF6IytE78li62zsk30= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290551bf21f367a9 Subject: [Fot] KCUP Garages. Road America Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Paddock Master Jason Ostrowski and I met this weekend. A few notes: Of the 36 stalls, Jason is making 32 available. We will be using the middle four stalls for various activities. This includes Marty Sukey's shirt distribution. There will be some regalia available. VSCDA Tech inspection will occur on Thursday afternoon, in place, in the stalls. And we hope to run the rest of the TRs through the center of the garages. This will give us enormous efficiencies over driving to the Tech Barn. Ernie Hussman has agreed to oversee our interests in the Tech Process at the garages. Now for the money part. We borrowed money from the FOT Till to pay for the garages. If you have not sent your $50/stall, please do. Please remit to Jason as requested. I think we have a waiting list. Thanks..... Jason & Joe _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 17 19:35:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6318A403B2 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 19:35:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f174.google.com (mail-qc0-f174.google.com [209.85.216.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07AB140046 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 19:34:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f174.google.com with SMTP id m15so1968078qcq.5 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:33:23 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=H7GN/LplB49zwoX86yxR6AZN96PDbeUDU83jU6It1V0=; b=hualnNdnX7TSrEpCE03ignmEtLgXOsdT2lw3j8LJjjUTHOM1YGiGrKexwjUsaJdNy/ D+VTEUzpaC4LuwXPlSmnDCdIN7/Qd4FqirbWzphNNWHboAwFZPIy82ToQ7QQmm6JSwga CHNMsiMV2LVufIVQyosfdIEG25dK1LdfJ5DPWRz7CVRBYNwxsgtg/DNGUmV4fr2Jut2g DLhsGVhOjremhA+iTjxWweOUv+N/ujWb+d/WkF7indDQcbVtXstF4P0N3Rz0OUjfhkDv lYslX4hvQuPEc0PQwrM/00n61cb4WoQNTlid029bwyJ4/a8SwqZBh68sWSlrNvpJpggo t0Qg== p10mr7581945qcq.12.1371519203539; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:33:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.127.137 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:32:43 -0700 (PDT) References: <006a01ce6bb8$086a45e0$193ed1a0$@net> From: Kas Kastner Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:32:43 -0700 To: fot Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Quote of the day ... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net *Never be beaten by equipment.* *I like being a racing driver because it gives me the opportunity to display* *the highly intellectual quality of having an utter disregard for money.* * * *~ Bill Wade ~* _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 17 19:51:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E0264040F for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 19:51:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 949B0403BC for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 19:51:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130618014952.DEPS10448.mta21.charter.net@imp09> for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 21:49:52 -0400 Received: from wt07 ([209.225.8.57]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id pdpr1l00P1Dq0wp05dpriM; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 21:49:51 -0400 a=lEKdvlyZPNJjTjN3w3rNNQ==:17 a=CcgYOV9FCv4A:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=K3M1K-DEpoEA:10 a=nuSvfH13WABK4hya9uEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=DzYu2uakIvMA:10 a=ue1jDvDrAvG9Nw8ahWYA:9 a=QxGuvxTTLPUMlGuR:21 a=BcwT0Smst7MCtTIIGOhIgQ==:117 Received: from [24.183.45.196] by enhanced.charter.net with HTTP; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 21:49:51 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 21:49:51 -0400 (EDT) From: d.hesse@charter.net To: fot@autox.team.net User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Subject: [Fot] TR3 waterpump Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I found a brand new still in the box TR3 waterpump with the pulley already pressed on. There's a woodruff key and a torn gasket in the box as well. I have no use for this waterpump so thought I'd see if anyone on the FOT needed or could put it to good use. I'd like to get $100 for it. Thanks. David Hesse Portage, WI 53901 608-617-5667 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 17 20:11:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D7E403FC for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 20:11:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371E74006D for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 20:11:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id pd3f1l0051GXsucAAeA4Pf; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 02:10:04 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.12] ([67.188.175.115]) by omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id peA41l0012Vle0b8UeA4W8; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 02:10:04 +0000 References: <006a01ce6bb8$086a45e0$193ed1a0$@net> From: Vintage Racer Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 19:10:05 -0700 To: Kas Kastner s=q20121106; t=1371521405; bh=TeN6fJwKgWblhEMGhWS8amN9hiQ2g/viYzrNIcmwjxI=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=J2SR35BVou/H+NLy7CYi6G28ln22m0ogwwpDrBwsq0SP0cWaqpcOmPBO6gcWwho7D lO1hhns3ZXKm389347rvgD+CK843ua2rTl+Yw2ZFlMpLhuVP2JflrgPvw1CoQNeGOu P2ng/WoSUOAa0WOLBMxBY7qydYBXvQyulEyLwUPk4pWoYm76arSLy/mee3lRq8jZ5Q eNcV3gTo5QHdo0gxZzrK8s1Ou0OaNmY3rzEMdSDKk/unuAzMWnOyrZXjw39f+5Quq1 cfqmmUwMf2PZq9aJjVxL5B3DqMkT2gRSWpZh3oMzl/yjvujf5v9X3lwltkw12nLSzA Au1E/O/XKwKnQ== Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Quote of the day ... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net ...and how about: "I know there is a lot of money in racing, I put it there!" Attributed to Carl Haas. Gary Sent from my iPad On Jun 17, 2013, at 6:32 PM, Kas Kastner wrote: > *Never be beaten by equipment.* > > *I like being a racing driver because it gives me the opportunity to > display* > > *the highly intellectual quality of having an utter disregard for money.* > > * * > > *~ Bill Wade ~* > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vintage.racer@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 18 06:08:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61CAC4055B for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 06:08:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from tr.ccfot.com (wsip-98-174-80-205.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA29340437 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 06:08:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C62A4C091 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:06:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tr.ccfot.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tr.ccfot.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gk10R55NjPLU for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:06:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from HENRYPRECISION (wsip-98-174-80-202.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.202]) (Authenticated sender: yellow04@tr4racer.com) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 2F2D9A4C087 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:06:58 -0400 (EDT) From: To: Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:07:09 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Our weekend at the Track Formerly Known as Mosport Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We had quite a gaggle of Triumphs running this past weekend at the Canadian Tire Motorsports Park, and everybody ran well and had enjoyed the weekend. The new owners of the track have made many improvements, including paving the runoff areas of turns 1, 2 and 5 all the way back to the tire walls. Big safety improvement. This was my third weekend running my yellow car with the For Sale sign and an engine built with a stock bottom end. I checked my records, I ran less than 1.5 seconds off my best time with the full blown race engine, and I know there was more time there. On the Saturday race I was having some great fun with an MGB-GT and a Volvo but we got stuck behind a 911 that was dog-slow in the corners but really fast in a straight line. I was the first of the 3 of us to get by and make it stick, but with only 2 laps to go. Sunday morning everybody packed up because of the weather, but everybody had a great time. I am enjoying the heck out of running this way, and am still amazed how little time is bought spending huge dolllars with the likes of Moldex and Carillo! This is going to make a great starter car for somebody... Also noteworthy was Michael Moore, our newest TR4 driver, ran Mosport as his second event ever. Just like at Summit Point, he did extremely well. Good show, Mike! Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 18 13:01:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8219C4039F for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 13:01:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (isis.mit.edu [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD6140400 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 12:42:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r5IFmrnj008479; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:48:53 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:48:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: yellow04@tr4racer.com References: Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Our weekend at the Track Formerly Known as Mosport Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 yellow04@tr4racer.com wrote: [stuff deleted] > I am enjoying the heck out of running this way, and am still amazed how > little time is bought spending huge dolllars with the likes of Moldex and > Carillo! This is going to make a great starter car for somebody... It's not about how much time you get with Moldex / Carillo. It's about reliability. How you use that is entirely up to you. ;-) rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 18 14:08:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D02403E8 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:08:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E0740078 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:03:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.23.216]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MOL00CCTGD89Q50@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 10:00:45 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: , References: Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:00:52 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] Our weekend at the Track Formerly Known as Mosport Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Great attitude. I get the same prize money at 17th as the guy in first; zip, nada, nuthin'. And I've had some great dices with guys in my speed group. BTW, I got a second place medal at the Glen last weekend. 2nd in my group. (Only 2 in my group, CP, but don't tell anyone!). John Hasty was 1st in EP, a second or so in front of me, and I was a bit in front of his friend Shea Brown in a Fiat. Shea and I had a blast in a couple races! Great fun. KISS. No, not the band from the 70's, but a good mindset. When I go to a race, I want to drive, but also like to spectate and schmooze with others, not work on the car all the time. And I'm having fun. A wise man told me a few years ago that it's a lot cheaper and probably more fun to run towards the back of the pack than up front. Good advice. Thanks Joe! Next weekend Mid Ohio; anyone else going? Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:07 AM Subject: [Fot] Our weekend at the Track Formerly Known as Mosport > We had quite a gaggle of Triumphs running this past weekend at the > Canadian Tire Motorsports Park, and everybody ran well and had enjoyed the > weekend. The new owners of the track have made many improvements, > including paving the runoff areas of turns 1, 2 and 5 all the way back to > the tire walls. Big safety improvement. > > This was my third weekend running my yellow car with the For Sale sign and > an engine built with a stock bottom end. I checked my records, I ran less > than 1.5 seconds off my best time with the full blown race engine, and I > know there was more time there. On the Saturday race I was having some > great fun with an MGB-GT and a Volvo but we got stuck behind a 911 that > was dog-slow in the corners but really fast in a straight line. I was the > first of the 3 of us to get by and make it stick, but with only 2 laps to > go. Sunday morning everybody packed up because of the weather, but > everybody had a great time. > > I am enjoying the heck out of running this way, and am still amazed how > little time is bought spending huge dolllars with the likes of Moldex and > Carillo! This is going to make a great starter car for somebody... > > Also noteworthy was Michael Moore, our newest TR4 driver, ran Mosport as > his second event ever. Just like at Summit Point, he did extremely well. > Good show, Mike! > > Henry > yellow04@tr4racer.com _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 18 18:23:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744374003F for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:23:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 656324055B for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:07:15 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=F9mrjwca0tIGYg8j16YD2A==:17 a=8O-gciLllRcA:10 a=_uR8Ajq-8o8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=fwRotYJ5eRgA:10 a=879b_Iw0AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=LNEhZ3ZmPGaLvBQJhqAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=1QNhSFbQkrsA:10 a=F9mrjwca0tIGYg8j16YD2A==:117 Received: from [70.112.152.138] ([70.112.152.138:57421] helo=[192.168.2.4]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 2F/53-14128-DC5F0C15; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 00:05:34 +0000 References: From: Bob Kramer Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 19:05:32 -0500 To: "" Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Our weekend at the Track Formerly Known as Mosport Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tick-tick Bob Kramer Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2013, at 7:07 AM, wrote: > We had quite a gaggle of Triumphs running this past weekend at the Canadian > Tire Motorsports Park, and everybody ran well and had enjoyed the weekend. > The new owners of the track have made many improvements, including paving > the runoff areas of turns 1, 2 and 5 all the way back to the tire walls. Big > safety improvement. > > This was my third weekend running my yellow car with the For Sale sign and > an engine built with a stock bottom end. I checked my records, I ran less > than 1.5 seconds off my best time with the full blown race engine, and I > know there was more time there. On the Saturday race I was having some great > fun with an MGB-GT and a Volvo but we got stuck behind a 911 that was > dog-slow in the corners but really fast in a straight line. I was the first > of the 3 of us to get by and make it stick, but with only 2 laps to go. > Sunday morning everybody packed up because of the weather, but everybody had > a great time. > > I am enjoying the heck out of running this way, and am still amazed how > little time is bought spending huge dolllars with the likes of Moldex and > Carillo! This is going to make a great starter car for somebody... > > Also noteworthy was Michael Moore, our newest TR4 driver, ran Mosport as his > second event ever. Just like at Summit Point, he did extremely well. Good > show, Mike! > > Henry > yellow04@tr4racer.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 18 19:32:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D61DD403E8 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 19:32:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from tr.ccfot.com (wsip-98-174-80-205.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2671240548 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 19:27:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CFF6A4C091; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:25:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tr.ccfot.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tr.ccfot.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TL1FOMoa2J3t; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:25:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from HENRYPRECISION (wsip-98-174-80-202.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.202]) (Authenticated sender: yellow04@tr4racer.com) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 461BDA4C087; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:25:46 -0400 (EDT) From: To: "Bob Kramer" References: <6DFA44CE-4BA9-4810-9358-7EB93212AEC8@austin.rr.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:25:49 -0400 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Our weekend at the Track Formerly Known as Mosport Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We will see, but keeping the revs under 6200 is the plan. So far, so good. Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Kramer" To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Our weekend at the Track Formerly Known as Mosport Tick-tick Bob Kramer Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2013, at 7:07 AM, wrote: > We had quite a gaggle of Triumphs running this past weekend at the > Canadian > Tire Motorsports Park, and everybody ran well and had enjoyed the weekend. > The new owners of the track have made many improvements, including paving > the runoff areas of turns 1, 2 and 5 all the way back to the tire walls. > Big > safety improvement. > > This was my third weekend running my yellow car with the For Sale sign and > an engine built with a stock bottom end. I checked my records, I ran less > than 1.5 seconds off my best time with the full blown race engine, and I > know there was more time there. On the Saturday race I was having some > great > fun with an MGB-GT and a Volvo but we got stuck behind a 911 that was > dog-slow in the corners but really fast in a straight line. I was the > first > of the 3 of us to get by and make it stick, but with only 2 laps to go. > Sunday morning everybody packed up because of the weather, but everybody > had > a great time. > > I am enjoying the heck out of running this way, and am still amazed how > little time is bought spending huge dolllars with the likes of Moldex and > Carillo! This is going to make a great starter car for somebody... > > Also noteworthy was Michael Moore, our newest TR4 driver, ran Mosport as > his > second event ever. Just like at Summit Point, he did extremely well. Good > show, Mike! > > Henry > yellow04@tr4racer.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 19 07:48:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B9A425C3 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:48:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.wave1.net (unknown [74.219.105.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D2F40C01 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:43:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [74.219.99.119] by mail.wave1.net (ArGoSoft Mail Server .NET v.1.0.8.3) with ESMTP (EHLO mtmPC) for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:43:41 -0400 From: "Mike Moore" To: "'FOT'" Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:41:38 -0400 thread-index: Ac5s8rjrt1R1ezXlR+yu+hoETmyyAg== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] TR4 Upgraded Front Axles Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone know where I can buy the just the shims for the upgrade kit? I want to repack bearings and need some extras on hand. I thought they were from ARE but don't see anything on their website Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 19 08:02:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 983D44271F for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:02:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d10.mx.aol.com (omr-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E434055B for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:57:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.194]) by omr-d10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8191E700000B5; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:56:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 3DB70E000092; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:56:28 -0400 (EDT) References: <005b01ce6cf2$b937a440$2ba6ecc0$@net> From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:56:28 -0500 To: Mike Moore x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1371650188; bh=wvZrlY/NRkt8OvlXRgfIiBmm4/JM48g3aRuDjpx8260=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=TdUvfR8KRxs5ZtIIwveh3fyGCHNOuAQK1s8S7MFc4Cy5MG36XtMlTrwHybvqa6IHV Oc5b7xuGr1klx7+VHGoz1qiwTo9i6da42LzROcOvs/3OjL4+Yls/85s9UEQlIOgODF oHJwY0WygRFQ+kPSKqTGYgT1vf+w7J2U1uy/IloY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c251c1b88c76f8 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Upgraded Front Axles Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tony Drews. Sent from my iPad On Jun 19, 2013, at 8:41 AM, "Mike Moore" wrote: > Anyone know where I can buy the just the shims for the upgrade kit? I want > to repack bearings and need some extras on hand. I thought they were from > ARE but don't see anything on their website > > > > Thanks > > Mike > > > > Michael T. Moore, CPA > > 2007 West 32nd Street > > Erie, PA 16508 > > > > Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 > > Fax: 814-864-7383 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 19 08:19:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 124DB4276D for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:19:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d02.mx.aol.com (omr-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E3EE42747 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:15:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.140]) by omr-d02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id CA7B37000008E; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:13:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dnd002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dnd002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.182.197]) by mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 9117CE00008A; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:13:45 -0400 (EDT) References: <005b01ce6cf2$b937a440$2ba6ecc0$@net> To: mmoore@wave1.net Received: from 24.120.231.10 by webmail-m140.sysops.aol.com (149.174.9.11) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:13:45 -0400 From: gt6steve@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:13:45 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1371651225; bh=jEcoBSneXk3f4sqVnK0BsIV9XZYqEKD4LtLkZ2NNtKU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Pj/+5U3/Pw5EgKYqioyri7Hn2GvrkaE6R1i4PSsONoBZYCTfGvP2+/jck6GLzo+n5 Mt5Qk86/L5bCAQWJDX41l76FfzXnlckoDGDxhPP79oGBfABSXWHMjIb2xZzxgSvkmo b72/YwBHreA14vb1M6g0LvvjNuzL/GjnZcY0bFi8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338c51c1bc99207c Cc: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Upgraded Front Axles Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Go to McMaster-Carr at Mcmaster.com. You can get any variation you desire in packs of ten or so. -----Original Message----- From: Mike Moore To: 'FOT' Sent: Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:46 am Subject: [Fot] TR4 Upgraded Front Axles Anyone know where I can buy the just the shims for the upgrade kit? I want o repack bearings and need some extras on hand. I thought they were from RE but don't see anything on their website Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 19 08:51:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4A442752 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:51:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-w17.bluehost.com (outbound-w17.bluehost.com [69.89.16.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E727242749 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:51:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 22216 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jun 2013 14:50:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy2.unifiedlayer.com) (66.147.243.71) by mrclean.bluehost.com with SMTP; 19 Jun 2013 14:50:04 -0000 {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Received: from just64.justhost.com (just64.justhost.com [173.254.28.64]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.74); Wed, 19 Jun 2013 14:50:04 GMT Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=49243 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UpJXJ-0001sg-Fu; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:39:01 -0600 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:38:56 -0500 To: gt6steve@aol.com,mmoore@wave1.net From: Tony Drews References: <005b01ce6cf2$b937a440$2ba6ecc0$@net> <8D03B0E581C4644-1610-247E5@webmail-m140.sysops.aol.com> {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Cc: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Upgraded Front Axles Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That's where I buy them, but they don't come in the right OD. If you do that you'll have to cut them down from 1" to 0.900" OD. We do a machining operation after purchase. Tony At 09:13 AM 6/19/2013, gt6steve@aol.com wrote: >Go to McMaster-Carr at Mcmaster.com. You can get any variation you desire in >packs of ten or so. > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mike Moore >To: 'FOT' >Sent: Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:46 am >Subject: [Fot] TR4 Upgraded Front Axles > > >Anyone know where I can buy the just the shims for the upgrade kit? I want >o repack bearings and need some extras on hand. I thought they were from >RE but don't see anything on their website > >Thanks >Mike > >Michael T. Moore, CPA >2007 West 32nd Street >Erie, PA 16508 > >Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 >Fax: 814-864-7383 >______________________________________________ >ot@autox.team.net >http://www.fot-racing.com >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >rchive: http://www.team.net/archive >orums: http://www.team.net/forums >nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve@aol.com >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 19 08:52:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F944275D for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:52:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from roproxy2-pub.unifiedlayer.com (roproxy2-pub.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.18.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C4B442754 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:51:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 24334 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jun 2013 14:50:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy2.unifiedlayer.com) (66.147.243.71) by roproxy2.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 19 Jun 2013 14:50:07 -0000 {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Received: from just64.justhost.com (just64.justhost.com [173.254.28.64]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.74); Wed, 19 Jun 2013 14:50:07 GMT Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=49242 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UpJW1-00008z-Sp; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:37:42 -0600 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:37:36 -0500 To: "Mike Moore" ,"'FOT'" From: Tony Drews References: <005b01ce6cf2$b937a440$2ba6ecc0$@net> {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Upgraded Front Axles Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You can get them from me or from Moss. Moss's part number is 661-292 for the full shim kit or 661-291 for the "short" shim kit with just the thinner shims. Or send me a check for $25 ($20 for the shims, $5 for shipping) and a shipping address and I'll get a full set out to you. I'll be on vacation next week, so they won't go out then. :) Tony Drews aka uncle jack's racing 5208 11th Avenue A Moline, IL 61265 563-505-0499 At 08:41 AM 6/19/2013, Mike Moore wrote: >Anyone know where I can buy the just the shims for the upgrade kit? I want >to repack bearings and need some extras on hand. I thought they were from >ARE but don't see anything on their website > > > >Thanks > >Mike > > > >Michael T. Moore, CPA > >2007 West 32nd Street > >Erie, PA 16508 > > > >Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 > >Fax: 814-864-7383 >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 19 10:07:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A9C342756 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:07:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail176c2.megamailservers.com (mail176c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC9A4274C for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:04:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail176c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r5JG335Q009393; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:03:08 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: "'Bill Tobin'" , , References: Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:03:02 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac5sX2RBit9pjnUQQtybHl9YAS5qmQApw94g a=Tc66p-LtMX0A:10 a=_uR8Ajq-8o8A:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=879b_Iw0AAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=q-Rr2VjywUTa6_VIOAkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=1QNhSFbQkrsA:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=Qa3iCRYpLwL8UvGn:21 a=9IVUpIbuLwitJwcG:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] Our weekend at the Track Formerly Known as Mosport Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'll be at Mid Ohio John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Tobin Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 11:01 AM To: yellow04@tr4racer.com; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Our weekend at the Track Formerly Known as Mosport Great attitude. I get the same prize money at 17th as the guy in first; zip, nada, nuthin'. And I've had some great dices with guys in my speed group. BTW, I got a second place medal at the Glen last weekend. 2nd in my group. (Only 2 in my group, CP, but don't tell anyone!). John Hasty was 1st in EP, a second or so in front of me, and I was a bit in front of his friend Shea Brown in a Fiat. Shea and I had a blast in a couple races! Great fun. KISS. No, not the band from the 70's, but a good mindset. When I go to a race, I want to drive, but also like to spectate and schmooze with others, not work on the car all the time. And I'm having fun. A wise man told me a few years ago that it's a lot cheaper and probably more fun to run towards the back of the pack than up front. Good advice. Thanks Joe! Next weekend Mid Ohio; anyone else going? Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:07 AM Subject: [Fot] Our weekend at the Track Formerly Known as Mosport > We had quite a gaggle of Triumphs running this past weekend at the > Canadian Tire Motorsports Park, and everybody ran well and had enjoyed > the weekend. The new owners of the track have made many improvements, > including paving the runoff areas of turns 1, 2 and 5 all the way back > to the tire walls. Big safety improvement. > > This was my third weekend running my yellow car with the For Sale sign > and an engine built with a stock bottom end. I checked my records, I > ran less than 1.5 seconds off my best time with the full blown race > engine, and I know there was more time there. On the Saturday race I > was having some great fun with an MGB-GT and a Volvo but we got stuck > behind a 911 that was dog-slow in the corners but really fast in a > straight line. I was the first of the 3 of us to get by and make it > stick, but with only 2 laps to go. Sunday morning everybody packed up > because of the weather, but everybody had a great time. > > I am enjoying the heck out of running this way, and am still amazed > how little time is bought spending huge dolllars with the likes of > Moldex and Carillo! This is going to make a great starter car for somebody... > > Also noteworthy was Michael Moore, our newest TR4 driver, ran Mosport > as his second event ever. Just like at Summit Point, he did extremely well. > Good show, Mike! > > Henry > yellow04@tr4racer.com _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 19 10:08:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DCCE4278D for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:08:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D1B4274E for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:08:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from wm17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (wm17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.10.24]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-9.20 (built Jul 15 2010)) with ESMTPA id <0MON0073WE32MU10@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for FOT@autox.team.net; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:06:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [67.83.138.143] by webtop.webmail.optimum.net with HTTP; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:06:38 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:06:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Redmond To: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Subject: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fot, Looking at buying a used set of Datsun 240z Aluminum finned rear brake drums. Found a pair. Might be a silly questions but can these be relined? Thanks Todd _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 19 10:24:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA774276C for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:24:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f175.google.com (mail-ie0-f175.google.com [209.85.223.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E89340536 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:24:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f175.google.com with SMTP id a13so13990640iee.34 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:22:54 -0700 (PDT) h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=iDy9IRXNICZefXsGgFDoVxOljcVPdp4n/4kpYgu2XKk=; b=YORht/w9Ii+x6xP6Q73+Wl9nJPd+JYwkkxn2wm6ENf7PJhfZFedXBKPmz7oqEXmhrG yDfE99ki8TW45Qij90jsSuqPtKribo9ClFmbp2P4uhWIuUhFws/bVRR8CnVkW49Zsrew vDMKLrglQDGZ8WUPhcu6j3d+FKPnaqURg+E4b7xGePEcRiTk122hOCT8890NTlVbAnWG T1Db/qMyaWtTEhLXmn6WCAz4NfZnndeMMzEFZM5W3CSuKrMp7xg8H5qzqhxN/vAv4VEI KgsBZeg02wDJ6AceBA8xKJtalFIfwa1Ysj+Cxta8ehIMSaF0KQzOeEXXsZDOqxBmroWV nuXg== x18mr1776120igp.87.1371658974128; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SnookPC (rrcs-98-102-104-254.central.biz.rr.com. [98.102.104.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ji5sm6800225igb.0.2013.06.19.09.22.52 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:22:53 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jeff Snook" To: Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:22:50 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac5tCT5SWRPr3dDmTvWjNKCKkrSu8g== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] Mid Ohio Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'll be at MO also. Racing my Lotus Eleven. The TR3 is still getting rebuilt/restored after the PVGP crash. It WILL be ready for the FOT event at ELVF in October! Jeff Snook http://www.snooksdreamcars.com 419-344-0319 (Mobile) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 19 11:54:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D973042751 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 11:54:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.wave1.net (unknown [74.219.105.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D667C42718 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 11:54:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [74.219.99.119] by mail.wave1.net (ArGoSoft Mail Server .NET v.1.0.8.3) with ESMTP (EHLO mtmPC) for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:54:50 -0400 From: "Mike Moore" To: "'FOT'" Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:52:47 -0400 thread-index: Ac5tFaiPCQ1jsgjdSXyLgX0Uk4A19g== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] Mosport Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Finished my second successful race of my career. I wanted to thank all the FOT and Triumph guys and wives that were there. All of your advices, and on track guidance was really appreciated. More importantly, your hospitality and welcoming my family into the group made the entire weekend a fantastic one (turn 2 helped a lot also!!) Myself, Becky, Mel and Mike really appreciated everything. Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 19 12:03:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 220334276A for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:03:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from ex.dunnwalshholdings.com (ex.dunnwalshholdings.com [173.219.117.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0007242751 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:01:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::6cea:93a1:26a:8c3c]) by TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::6cea:93a1:26a:8c3c%15]) with mapi; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:59:39 -0700 From: Edward Dunn To: Mike Moore , 'FOT' Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:58:51 -0700 Thread-Topic: [Fot] Mosport Thread-Index: Ac5tFaiPCQ1jsgjdSXyLgX0Uk4A19gAAK7TA References: <00b101ce6d15$cf570310$6e050930$@net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: Re: [Fot] Mosport Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A great feeling, isn't it! I'm a fairly new racer as well, and my only regret is jumping in far later than I should have. The whole package is just terrific; the cars, actually racing, but mostly the cool people we meet. Ed Edward Dunn West Coast Vintage Racing 2240 Encinitas Blvd., Suite D101 Encinitas CA 92024 760-492-3814 www.vintageracing.us -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Moore Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:53 AM To: 'FOT' Subject: [Fot] Mosport Finished my second successful race of my career. I wanted to thank all the FOT and Triumph guys and wives that were there. All of your advices, and on track guidance was really appreciated. More importantly, your hospitality and welcoming my family into the group made the entire weekend a fantastic one (turn 2 helped a lot also!!) Myself, Becky, Mel and Mike really appreciated everything. Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 19 13:01:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E98E4271B for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:01:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D85A42719 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:01:01 -0600 (MDT) a=yr/eJ6S8SHGIc+/JdDlNag==:17 a=zkYuSOkxadoA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=ShPIiJxC9-MA:10 a=Pyq9K9CWowscuQLKlpiwfMBGOR0=:19 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=9aWiE7hZIZb4cldkq4gA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=5nmbGoeUrHwA:10 a=iOgyu-XeqMgA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=3BjnX8LzFnw18CiU:21 a=z4rRXjdXbB5UqYGU:21 wl=env:15 a=yr/eJ6S8SHGIc+/JdDlNag==:117 Received: from [67.255.13.17] ([67.255.13.17:59410] helo=Shop) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 8C/5C-16377-69FF1C15; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:59:34 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: "'Mike Moore'" , "'FOT'" References: <00b101ce6d15$cf570310$6e050930$@net> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 14:59:33 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac5tFaiPCQ1jsgjdSXyLgX0Uk4A19gABe1WA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Mosport Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mike, you're welcome. It's a pleasure having you in the group. I imagine that grin you had through the weekend is still going strong and, as I mentioned, you're probably hooked for years to come. I remember Mark and Henry's reaction when I first convinced them to come up there - pretty much the same as yours. That track is absolutely the best kept secret in North America. With the Triumph-MG Challenge next year there it will be better yet. The first time Donny Sopp and I went there, Triumphs were a novelty even though a TR-3 was the winner of the first race held there. I already have commitments from a number of folks for next year. Many remember running it back in 2002 when the K-Cup was there and were just waiting for an excuse to make the trek again. Hopefully we can get some of the southern TR-3s up again. I know there will be a number of other TR-4s headed up to it. With the easy border crossing it's no different than going to any other track in the US. NEXT YEAR: The Triumph-MG Challenge I've been working with Bob Deshayne of VARAC on the planning of next year's event and I am pleased to hear it will be covered by Classic Motorsport Magazine and also the Toronto Star, Canada's largest newspaper. The coverage by Classic Motorsport will be extensive and in the first person as Tim Suddard has indicated he will be participating with his own TR-3 in the event. This event will also have heavy VTR club involvement from both sides of the border. More news as we get it together. Russ Moore Spitfire #49 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Moore Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 1:53 PM To: 'FOT' Subject: [Fot] Mosport Finished my second successful race of my career. I wanted to thank all the FOT and Triumph guys and wives that were there. All of your advices, and on track guidance was really appreciated. More importantly, your hospitality and welcoming my family into the group made the entire weekend a fantastic one (turn 2 helped a lot also!!) Myself, Becky, Mel and Mike really appreciated everything. Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 19 13:01:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153A342719 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:01:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-relay-3.cniteam.com (omr-relay-3.cniteam.com [209.143.0.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8243342719 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:01:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rg7.cniteam.com (rg7.cniteam.com [209.143.0.247]) by omr-relay-3.cniteam.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r5JJ0CqK014265 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:00:23 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([216.201.14.237]) by rg7.cniteam.com (MOS 4.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id BZY43394 (AUTH tws@bright.net) for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:00:23 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:00:22 -0400 From: Ted Schumacher User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 To: fot@autox.team.net refid=str=0001.0A020205.51C1FFC7.008B, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-09-13 19:33:14, dmn=2013-04-19 10:07:54, mode=single engine Subject: [Fot] Mid-Ohio Vintage Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi list. Seeing the emails about the upcoming Mid-Ohio, we will have a booth there with parts and regalia. If anyone needs something brought to the event, please let me know. WE will be open on Thursday Through Sunday. Thanks for your time. Ted -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx@bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 19 13:20:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48A34275F for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:20:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s47.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s47.snt0.hotmail.com [65.54.61.98]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB1742717 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:19:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT403-EAS193 ([65.55.90.73]) by snt0-omc2-s47.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:18:28 -0700 References: <00b101ce6d15$cf570310$6e050930$@net> From: Vince G Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:18:25 -0400 To: Mike Moore FILETIME=[C73DFD80:01CE6D21] Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Mosport Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mike, It was a pleasure to make Paddock beside a fellow rookie with all the FOT crowd and really good to see you get around the course so well (passing me) :) Thanks for the good company and all the help you and your pit crew/family (and other FOT friends like Mike and Peter) gave up when I had some transmission issues to deal with. Looking forward to next time! Cheers Vince Garrett Sent from my iPhone On 2013-06-19, at 1:53 PM, "Mike Moore" wrote: > Finished my second successful race of my career. > > > > I wanted to thank all the FOT and Triumph guys and wives that were there. > All of your advices, and on track guidance was really appreciated. > > > > More importantly, your hospitality and welcoming my family into the group > made the entire weekend a fantastic one (turn 2 helped a lot also!!) > > > > Myself, Becky, Mel and Mike really appreciated everything. > > > > Thanks > > Mike > > > > Michael T. Moore, CPA > > 2007 West 32nd Street > > Erie, PA 16508 > > > > Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 > > Fax: 814-864-7383 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 19 13:34:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3658242765 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:34:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f42.google.com (mail-oa0-f42.google.com [209.85.219.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5724271B for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:34:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id n12so7076325oag.1 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:33:08 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date :to:x-gm-message-state; bh=U061oZ0EMZFQ2nu5hTRMseBW6ijmMjn4DsW1P83dCfY=; b=fzXVOYJiF2UGfefzaDToMg21vY9YciRaCzZ6meBUrFBsi6WdOoZZVZs06GDZ2uOqLi 1MCC5dVnsPl1mTXz3PGZUWa9hwv75o1gYniuEUu8Ig+XuDkUs1AGZQ5vtz7eO5P6kE76 PXr9Hh/WbPuPW+4R2YfvcIKGYNMBI+V4RU9BQEkCBRiI3kXPG0B9DHp1y29CeZE98ugm lJLcu92ni6MqCDlZLZ3yqcJAOFepWchaeLXPrS+fZN+EVzCzXH9kb/gPafbVj69xg5rk P2DwWV07Iv1OkgYY7retZ6RRg2Nh+bxF3b8jJ79SUBrzpoCofw0yBlTAuMIIvOl15cH3 t8Sw== me18mr2970108oeb.100.1371670388813; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:33:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.17] (206-248-172-35.dsl.teksavvy.com. [206.248.172.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i2sm25559312obz.11.2013.06.19.12.33.07 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:33:08 -0700 (PDT) References: <00b101ce6d15$cf570310$6e050930$@net> <001801ce6d1f$23a78d00$6af6a700$@rr.com> From: Andre Rousseau Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:33:04 -0400 To: Spitfire Racing Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Mosport Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Once you experience turn 2 flat out. Your never the same ;) Job well done Russ. See you in 2014. I'll start spreading the word at the Ottawa Triumph meeting next week. With a year on hand should be able drum up a lot of spectators! AndrC). Sent from my iPhone Andre Rousseau - andre@gt6.ca http://twitter.com/andrerousseau '68 Triumph GT6 MK1 -http://www.gt6.ca/ #515 FIAT 124 Spider -http://www.124racer.com/ Ottawa, ON, Canada On 2013-06-19, at 14:59, "Spitfire Racing" wrote: > Mike, you're welcome. It's a pleasure having you in the group. I imagine > that grin you had through the weekend is still going strong and, as I > mentioned, you're probably hooked for years to come. I remember Mark and > Henry's reaction when I first convinced them to come up there - pretty much > the same as yours. That track is absolutely the best kept secret in North > America. With the Triumph-MG Challenge next year there it will be better > yet. > The first time Donny Sopp and I went there, Triumphs were a novelty even > though a TR-3 was the winner of the first race held there. I already have > commitments from a number of folks for next year. Many remember running it > back in 2002 when the K-Cup was there and were just waiting for an excuse to > make the trek again. Hopefully we can get some of the southern TR-3s up > again. I know there will be a number of other TR-4s headed up to it. With > the easy border crossing it's no different than going to any other track in > the US. > > NEXT YEAR: The Triumph-MG Challenge > > I've been working with Bob Deshayne of VARAC on the planning of next year's > event and I am pleased to hear it will be covered by Classic Motorsport > Magazine and also the Toronto Star, Canada's largest newspaper. The coverage > by Classic Motorsport will be extensive and in the first person as Tim > Suddard has indicated he will be participating with his own TR-3 in the > event. This event will also have heavy VTR club involvement from both sides > of the border. > More news as we get it together. > > Russ Moore > Spitfire #49 > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Mike Moore > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 1:53 PM > To: 'FOT' > Subject: [Fot] Mosport > > Finished my second successful race of my career. > > > > I wanted to thank all the FOT and Triumph guys and wives that were there. > All of your advices, and on track guidance was really appreciated. > > > > More importantly, your hospitality and welcoming my family into the group > made the entire weekend a fantastic one (turn 2 helped a lot also!!) > > > > Myself, Becky, Mel and Mike really appreciated everything. > > > > Thanks > > Mike > > > > Michael T. Moore, CPA > > 2007 West 32nd Street > > Erie, PA 16508 > > > > Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 > > Fax: 814-864-7383 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 19 15:15:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F12E4275B for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:15:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm4-vm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm4-vm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.116]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A964271B for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:13:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.160] by nm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jun 2013 21:12:20 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.105] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jun 2013 21:12:20 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.93] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jun 2013 21:12:19 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1030.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jun 2013 21:12:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 39474 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Jun 2013 21:12:19 -0000 s=s1024; t=1371676339; bh=LLP6wxLlNpX/doU3TTAFngo2Mbi+xvRRD8xhI+G4Hxg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GJFfEqhc/jehdJRbm527xj9QwcO6eq2bYwGUBbWxL0JzOMynHK8ynxm5vpk9xzYznZXxVXIW+/PDwdibCLmlLRIEF4iO1NQGmZJQ/GThU47LgR8D2QdbqjtJlXUxyhrXtjgnFSmGfCTaAbcIbtdtkROnlHSFNHnVZfDIFWK2w/g= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Z5M5mwNQX5Pk/CaSu+vrPyfaCXCEk4ItQD+rsBfbdlW64QdaG4jzSqurtlLsRMjy+4x1yQhXaQcY1QKBIzJrPm255ja5XnKtgCkFHWMWEytfSIqg556gycEPxhP8szWhdQHjSTSeNcxKTEMrOoNJNSSYsFqX3sFuUwguboZtNII=; _l9wvNJrQ10rqWX8fbWMfCe..BeN.hbszlG1R86zmrOo6JZhzn.luu9ifYfR drHzOSaR9uATm06BVp5lMrIaXQohxI80azYyhKooAAHSvNV7IUlifcPaN6p. 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have regular height stiffer springs, rear sway bar, stock soft bushings in trailing arm and diff (with cups on diff mounts), frame strengthening in certain areas, and red Konis (soft bushings) with the conversion tied into the roll cage. I currently have the Konis set on the second to the stiffest setting. I backed off the stiffest setting for the Konis due to talk of the trailing arm cracking. I am just wondering if I can go to the stiffest setting on the Konis without much worry. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, Jim _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 19 16:17:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925164009A for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:17:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF7442716 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:12:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qKsc1l0020b6N64AENBSR5; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 22:11:26 +0000 Received: from sz0004.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qNBS1l00R2xZMJ48PNBSps; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 22:11:26 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 22:11:26 +0000 (UTC) From: toodamnfunky@comcast.net To: sherry robyn s=q20121106; t=1371679886; bh=6ja1uNCxzowE6YxPh7GuJfwmoJz84fNgsOrw/ahf74Q=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=ph5ZwtIIJUagxNORMcPxOcC82n5cVhdQYElVBJBSJFa5Tz1OHyAF3+35Y/w6O1dHa +BemoahC19NF5z6wDncjIGXoG6LRTayHfPaEHLqCAddV1JOjgLUwS39/KrkrBR+Ehe asgrMNVmBonMbkEKLT/00KN59r0cBdrEKJbjPA2oFUimpLvk/9q2G8B24kXFvVovi/ 4HFZuXSJrudBmRsEiD2rBSdtiyk5yolTbbWDzN8ibjo+4T8aq/xjYW46qwg3RsIOAW Cv4CU8WHquEi1Vc3XMLzvTnoAEJRq1E0vQqSfDAy5b9G8voQtyHaNhJkBpLLHyQ7/G p0kCWFuVdNAaw== Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] How likely is cracking a trailing arm on a TR6? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The trailing arms are pretty tough. The only place I could even imagine them cracking would be at the spring seat area but even there it would take some sort of casting defect. I wouldn't sweat it. jim g ----- Original Message ----- From: "sherry robyn" To: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:12:19 PM Subject: [Fot] How likely is cracking a trailing arm on a TR6? I have regular height stiffer springs, rear sway bar, stock soft bushings in trailing arm and diff (with cups on diff mounts), frame strengthening in certain areas, and red Konis (soft bushings) with the conversion tied into the roll cage. B I currently have the Konis set on the second to the stiffest setting. B I backed off the stiffest setting for the Konis due to talk of the trailing arm cracking. B I am just wondering if I can go to the stiffest setting on the Konis without much worry. B Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, Jim _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 19 16:50:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D8D42749 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:50:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm34-vm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm34-vm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.6]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887EB42741 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:50:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.144] by nm34.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jun 2013 22:49:01 -0000 Received: from [98.139.211.199] by tm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jun 2013 22:49:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp208.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jun 2013 22:49:01 -0000 s=s1024; t=1371682141; bh=HbozDmAaq/a2eD9ZN9SDesyRqrdEHiTCPsfpr6i/1aY=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=I7PHlVp1nw3xVxhRsUYPPb2Rb8fFg/0p4tWiCfGm5juFm0HY5bpAYa7uarCk40TZRQ/lcBtfwvGATaNidYge8hkiCUhV0i7NdrAdhiwFUM9GGZAM5c/AWqVYjsetMTP2vpPK7E7i957oRHCgl8hCIikTgcaHKHmfmlJ+1LeVm7A= pJOBHJzAxb46mjiS55DIPNLWSWPL83NLU2J4xUHloTDyoQwbdC4YMtbI9sOy KG1_dcSDZ9r.1G8NJyBowsbgO9juuDQrGgIHQG.DeE9zCnLY4YE4UaJUE89D OYwC.yogIU0E126cN4tQCIAlJQu5ThOkBawSrSfDq_Yi26MHwA4.829N_3X6 NP.Xpbw_1bwXA_hC_gkIk3xdxy0K65JmSSvq4UDfk0kPUDl81xEWjcfqe2VK 0ByRQvPLqruYqxikeANN0fPJL_S_6ObvFqKU_rZEbj3vQiVKAkvUNVa7GaAc YCeczfhZcyLQAAQtdXLM114k.xZ4euEQ9o_Op9XA1KprQoYEujxIwRArGMMX 5oBm5G0bOMN95Gu9as4wIsUKCdhC0zzfgo9ScBv1lIwLYOKYo4GLVJi7LHSx .sFCjj3fb1ofIZOE.XbJYodtVgv5o2yI36tHay1uuXNLAjfc5EPyqfKuWRnw IBsj7aBE5_gQKjgN5PLyDittlNYSLev2Ny4zqLPSTqp3W8jxjPOClFZ.59To - ) by smtp208.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jun 2013 15:49:01 -0700 PDT References: <1127944145.342760.1371679886469.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> From: Jamie Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:48:58 -0500 To: "toodamnfunky@comcast.net" Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] How likely is cracking a trailing arm on a TR6? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On ****street**** cars, with the less expensive conversions using very short shocks, the biggest thing is the way the lower part of the shock connects to the trailing arm. As the suspension goes through its range of motion, a lot of side deflection (angle change) goes on and the place on the trailing arm where the shock bolts on isn't designed for that and breaks off. Note that the same basic design is used on the 2000/2500/2.5 PI sedans and Stag BUT with a much longer shock to reduce the angle change. It works just fine. Jamie Palmer On Jun 19, 2013, at 5:11 PM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: > The trailing arms are pretty tough. The only place I could even imagine them > cracking would be at the spring > > seat area but even there it would take some sort of casting defect. I wouldn't > sweat it. > > jim g > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "sherry robyn" > To: fot@autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:12:19 PM > Subject: [Fot] How likely is cracking a trailing arm on a TR6? > > I have regular height stiffer springs, rear sway bar, stock soft bushings in > trailing arm and diff (with cups on diff mounts), frame strengthening in > certain areas, and red Konis (soft bushings) with the conversion tied into the > roll cage. B I currently have the Konis set on the second to the stiffest > setting. B I backed off the stiffest setting for the Konis due to talk of the > trailing arm cracking. B I am just wondering if I can go to the stiffest > setting on the Konis without much worry. B Any thoughts would be appreciated. > Thanks, Jim > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr6driver@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 19 18:49:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AEFC4275A for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:49:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm10-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm10-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A92604274C for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:45:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.101] by nm10.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jun 2013 00:44:23 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.64] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jun 2013 00:44:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1001.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jun 2013 00:44:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 9625 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jun 2013 00:44:23 -0000 s=s1024; t=1371689063; bh=gfczwZMBI935vZ6FDkkB7sgu4+cRHkKWFuVhIjX/YTg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VLUAKY9gZJWGjkNwoJ1HLhpGmF5NsBEwRPT51kku0WJ/mCOi0dhGKRRPNMoecCFGx4Md+Pzf1sd53FuMRoxvjgUCj4GMwULF65SVrDd4fbXW9srUfC4o5UsTRKejTf6WcRRtYiC1Sgi5+XD7gi3oh4Rk/KtXx3xZFmZHOWGNKuc= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=d1h9wRHP4mMc//irix0eMW+rVRYjvSDYcHgtHoeTrttbjuUYU4aReE0BP1QzjMMKzaV8lC/tt2dXi3EIefTVz86EoD2yC5OWlLA+dtNhMb9z9cpnk+7f5U91ljSl3JRe6DGxgcqhC5kjH6I71uxyrorGObgUjOMkLUWBlvJIZk0=; JKvfM4a00je3.XGTOs8_5edFOMQ.LixhMobMVzpsg8w0fXYuyiuNTtdiqcs9 gS9VJ8PTsjJi_VEccKFbh67B1wqJPFWNKro2QfwOZOuLpsMBUixra3cTZgQl 9vbb3sIMZJzRrE2xLb_YLN12Z_PhrhN1gtUyE0NkjOJlINx1LrqFF4WngVjv SosBKWlYmJOIeRQ1zOB0NAhKewsOXEc6IS3mMZClnh93abHOvFBDN2O46PtJ Gh.YEatOQB5kOxIEL.B.b1Yf59bwiSsg6LrIWZuMbFsadW7nOgt2UM2TD.9W VNM8L5H2Dv3toUwQZXu0qlxL3XWCOaYAi7GVWeNMe7eGO.smbBZSKSyAK3k9 .7i.m1mnuFFvxym1soseEtbg2G2eLb_qp_oyWPDSkwIjk4T1mNlJszpDK11K q0bcb2i5OlJmm7bqdjRGYXES4btYtIEeQCK9kb5scozBGgzpecFg- Received: from [99.60.75.95] by web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:44:23 PDT Q29uc2lkZXJpbmcgdGhhdCB0aGUgVFI2IGlzIHNldCB1cCB3aXRoIHN0aWZmZXIgc3ByaW5ncywgc3RpZmZlciB0dWJlIHNob2NrcyBhbmQgYSByZWFyIHN3YXkgYmFyLCB3b3VsZCB0aGUgY29uZGl0aW9uIG9mIGV4dHJhIHdlaWdodCB0byB0aGUgcmVhciBjYXVzZWQgYnkgdGhlIG5hdHVyZSBvZiBhIGhpbGxjbGltYiBpbmNyZWFzZSBvciBkZWNyZWFzZSB0aGUgdGVuZGVuY3kgZm9yIGEgVFI2IHRvIHNxdWF0IHVuZGVyIGFjY2VsZXJhdGlvbj_CoCBSaWdodCBub3cgbXkgcmVhciBjYW1iZXIgaXMgc2V0IHMBMAEBAQE- Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:44:23 -0700 (PDT) From: sherry robyn To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] Do hillclimb conditions increase or decrease TR6 squat? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Considering that the TR6 is set up with stiffer springs, stiffer tube shocks and a rear sway bar, would the condition of extra weight to the rear caused by the nature of a hillclimb increase or decrease the tendency for a TR6 to squat under acceleration? Right now my rear camber is set static for zero degrees to combat squat but I am wondering if the rear camber should be altered for the conditions of a hillclimb. Thanks for any thoughts. Jim _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 20 01:29:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3095E4274D for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 01:29:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.o2.co.uk (vader.london.02.net [82.132.130.150]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518914056E for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 01:27:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.241.21.201] (82.132.238.223) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.5.140.03) id 51B44E66021CDAA3; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:26:22 +0100 References: <1127944145.342760.1371679886469.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <04EE64D0-12DE-4EE3-B9E8-3C11EA5C87AD@yahoo.com> From: TR4 Tony Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:26:18 +0100 To: Jamie Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] How likely is cracking a trailing arm on a TR6? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've had one crack on a very quick road going IRS 4a I used to own, between the bolts that hold the hub in place across the top of the cast tunnel they run through. That was as a result of a wire wheel shredding rapidly and the shaft impacting the casting. This is typically the way these castings fail - they are hollow and very strong. I don't think you will have a problem because of the shock settings, more likely something else giving up and causing a problem so it's vital to make sure that everything is in good order across the whole IRS set up. Regards Tony Sent from my iPhone On 19 Jun 2013, at 23:48, Jamie wrote: > On ****street**** cars, with the less expensive conversions using very short > shocks, the biggest thing is the way the lower part of the shock connects to > the trailing arm. As the suspension goes through its range of motion, a lot > of side deflection (angle change) goes on and the place on the trailing arm > where the shock bolts on isn't designed for that and breaks off. Note that > the same basic design is used on the 2000/2500/2.5 PI sedans and Stag BUT with > a much longer shock to reduce the angle change. It works just fine. > > Jamie Palmer > > > On Jun 19, 2013, at 5:11 PM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: > >> The trailing arms are pretty tough. The only place I could even imagine > them >> cracking would be at the spring >> >> seat area but even there it would take some sort of casting defect. I > wouldn't >> sweat it. >> >> jim g >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> From: "sherry robyn" >> To: fot@autox.team.net >> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:12:19 PM >> Subject: [Fot] How likely is cracking a trailing arm on a TR6? >> >> I have regular height stiffer springs, rear sway bar, stock soft bushings > in >> trailing arm and diff (with cups on diff mounts), frame strengthening in >> certain areas, and red Konis (soft bushings) with the conversion tied into > the >> roll cage. B I currently have the Konis set on the second to the stiffest >> setting. B I backed off the stiffest setting for the Konis due to talk of > the >> trailing arm cracking. B I am just wondering if I can go to the stiffest >> setting on the Konis without much worry. B Any thoughts would be > appreciated. >> Thanks, Jim >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr6driver@yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 20 05:39:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B9C426C3 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 05:39:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53EF4403DB for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 05:39:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.28.17]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MOO00CIWWBEB940@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for FOT@autox.team.net; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 06:38:03 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Todd Redmond" , References: <2fcb967.1f87.13f5d3012b6.Webtop.0@optonline.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 07:38:01 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Todd, the quick answer is I don't think so. There are a couple differences between the Z drums and Triumph drums. I think one of Kas' books explained them. By what I hear, the finned aluminum drums are no longer available. BTW, I recently bought a set of Z drums on e-bay and am planning on fitting them to my TR6. I'll keep you posted. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Redmond" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:06 PM Subject: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums > Fot, > > Looking at buying a used set of Datsun 240z Aluminum finned rear brake > drums. Found a pair. > Might be a silly questions but can these be relined? > > Thanks > Todd > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 20 06:21:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7ED40C01 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 06:21:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC02E40042 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 06:20:16 -0600 (MDT) a=Za5Z2h6Gp24lUAOq2dOr4Q==:17 a=zB9c-D_oiokA:10 a=sW7TvOcSFHAA:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=yusoX0t7ZhcA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=xRfjoxBpAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=1HuOJFftY4PiKGhQyo8A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=bgAgzZxQv2QA:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=0vUscowIxtUA:10 a=Za5Z2h6Gp24lUAOq2dOr4Q==:117 Received: from [173.88.242.216] ([173.88.242.216:53903] helo=UserTHINK) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id D0/11-05415-523F2C15; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 12:18:45 +0000 From: "Jerry Van Vlack" To: "Bill Tobin" , "Todd Redmond" , References: <2fcb967.1f87.13f5d3012b6.Webtop.0@optonline.net> <19C423585F0643EE9FCFD212D6655A46@hpd530> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:18:50 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net There is a steel liner in these drums but I doubt there is much material that can be cut, sometimes there is a min dimension cast into a drum. You might look for that and if it's there be guided by that dimension. JVV -----Original Message----- From: Bill Tobin Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 7:38 AM To: Todd Redmond ; FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums Hi Todd, the quick answer is I don't think so. There are a couple differences between the Z drums and Triumph drums. I think one of Kas' books explained them. By what I hear, the finned aluminum drums are no longer available. BTW, I recently bought a set of Z drums on e-bay and am planning on fitting them to my TR6. I'll keep you posted. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Redmond" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:06 PM Subject: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums > Fot, > > Looking at buying a used set of Datsun 240z Aluminum finned rear brake > drums. Found a pair. > Might be a silly questions but can these be relined? > > Thanks > Todd > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv@roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 20 08:13:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998A94043B for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:13:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 346AD403D9 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:13:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.60]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qdXx1l0061HpZEsAFeBY3p; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:11:32 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qe9Y1l0032xZMJ48ae9Yfc; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:09:32 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:09:32 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Jerry Van Vlack s=q20121106; t=1371737492; bh=zT8n2QKAxqAKUQe//rZO80mC0Zui41kVQVI6OByPIz8=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=XGwX1gTks2yk88egeOJnF7qWqWy2CX9PCzyQ+OOkFYbsP4kM8BcRjdQvgk5ABProX GE8nOEaICS5uoVNrFXzvnRz4jnxRBaVZn/zJD4B+2oNAsFrickpQ78ljd9wPqIM+aB 7OxsoATKcnbhDGTXuULDQ2d+9iHjqHNyvy1BMYjeHPPKiU8Zqy+0Gn6NqFTDG/whHP KBLLbF1DEz/TNByS8CrLj+6nI8Tha3/jxrHNzcxuZxyw59rUEPXlYtcDU+brSajvIf KMirYZYtf7s7n09+ED0FMNE+AR49cU/VabA+pMnA2WFBbeLYkFt3KAaHUcXkw0tqXu d8rde+bE13ZWg== Cc: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, I recently purchased a set of Z aluminum drums for $47 each brand new, probably from China, by Centric. I had a friend with a really nice lathe take .475" off the finned edge to clear the brake backing plate and opened up the center hole to fit the Southwick/Moser axles. I also opened up the wheel stud holes because of the 1/2" studs. If you are still using 7/16" studs you can skip this step. I could get the part # if need be. Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Van Vlack" To: "Bill Tobin" , "Todd Redmond" , FOT@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:18:50 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums There is a steel liner in these drums but I doubt there is much material that can be cut, sometimes there is a min dimension cast into a drum. You might look for that and if it's there be guided by that dimension. JVV -----Original Message----- From: Bill Tobin Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 7:38 AM To: Todd Redmond ; FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums Hi Todd, the quick answer is I don't think so. There are a couple differences between the Z drums and Triumph drums. I think one of Kas' books explained them. By what I hear, the finned aluminum drums are no longer available. BTW, I recently bought a set of Z drums on e-bay and am planning on fitting them to my TR6. I'll keep you posted. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Redmond" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:06 PM Subject: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums > Fot, > > Looking at buying a used set of Datsun 240z Aluminum finned rear brake > drums. Found a pair. > Might be a silly questions but can these be relined? > > Thanks > Todd > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv@roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 20 09:48:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236F84056A for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 09:48:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.196]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E204403E2 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 09:48:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vwm5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (vwm5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.10.35]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0MOP00FBH7TT3IH0@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:46:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [67.83.138.143] by webtop.webmail.optimum.net with HTTP; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:46:41 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:46:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Redmond To: dlhogye@comcast.net User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fot Thank you for all the responses. Here's what I've learned so I'll share. The Datsun aluminum finned drums CAN be relined. The company that has done a set for a fellow FoT'er is J&G Relinging at 815-276-2578 . Approx. $175.00ea. But are as good as new, maybe better. There are several aftermarket drums out there, prices range. Don't know yet if the aftermarket ones are as good as the original or visa versa. The normal modifications apply to all. The saga continues . . . . . . Todd On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 10:09 AM, davehogye wrote: Hello Friends, I recently purchased a set of Z aluminum drums for $47 each brand new, probably from China, by Centric. I had a friend with a really nice lathe take .475" off the finned edge to clear the brake backing plate and opened up the center hole to fit the Southwick/Moser axles. I also opened up the wheel stud holes because of the 1/2" studs. If you are still using 7/16" studs you can skip this step. I could get the part # if need be. Dave H. ___________________________________ From: "Jerry Van Vlack" To: "Bill Tobin" , "Todd Redmond" , FOT@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:18:50 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums There is a steel liner in these drums but I doubt there is much material that can be cut, sometimes there is a min dimension cast into a drum. You might look for that and if it's there be guided by that dimension. JVV -----Original Message----- From: Bill Tobin Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 7:38 AM To: Todd Redmond ; FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums Hi Todd, the quick answer is I don't think so. There are a couple differences between the Z drums and Triumph drums. I think one of Kas' books explained them. By what I hear, the finned aluminum drums are no longer available. BTW, I recently bought a set of Z drums on e-bay and am planning on fitting them to my TR6. I'll keep you posted. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Redmond" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:06 PM Subject: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums > Fot, > Looking at buying a used set of Datsun 240z Aluminum finned rear brake > drums. Found a pair. Might be a silly questions but can these be > relined? > Thanks Todd _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv@roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 20 15:04:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 221004044E for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:04:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3E2403D8 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:04:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta22.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.73]) by qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qjDR1l0051ap0As51l3Cni; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:03:12 +0000 Received: from ComputerPC ([71.60.181.57]) by omta22.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ql3C1l00Z1EiJYf3il3Csm; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:03:12 +0000 From: "Stutzmans" To: "Todd Redmond" , References: <512a80f7.2b48.13f6244280e.Webtop.35@optonline.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 17:03:18 -0400 s=q20121106; t=1371762192; bh=pRseRFCKAgLQ2V4bKf1z6uPv7sM2v/zldjXliGpX4cs=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=s28B+hme0jmdgUWfBlS0lQqi5ItECmeVDOS3Mf5kRVN+z0Bz8QblnfGNgQ4LX2U2E Za5DVkY1VM1GQxfFp4b/FzPSpYCuG5YXY9OZqXurdkin3UGRJUdCnHM8J6FmJLKSVp ZEfabBDyr9BJ4KDUQp51pqenqg/pNsQQi/4z0WhMbT+lsXnyLHn+HaLcywcqZ3Nub/ 2SwEM4C/4gK88fO1Y+3DtX4jbqwAQcDMtgworXICxDjYHOK0rsIRDcn/Jw2fA75bMg CzIW8iu4lvsDaXhLpPet6v88TuyjLecLLMIbEyloF/dt/RqKcecVNJjLwNvtaQL/Jv giGs0/AxUFNXg== Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I think The Roadster Factory sells new ones. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Redmond" To: Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums > Fot > > Thank you for all the responses. Here's what I've learned so I'll > share. > > The Datsun aluminum finned drums CAN be relined. The company that has > done a set for a fellow FoT'er is J&G Relinging at 815-276-2578 . > Approx. $175.00ea. But are as good as new, maybe better. > There are several aftermarket drums out there, prices range. Don't know > yet if the aftermarket ones are as good as the original or visa versa. > The normal modifications apply to all. > > The saga continues . . . . . . > > Todd > > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 10:09 AM, davehogye wrote: > > Hello Friends, I recently purchased a set of Z aluminum drums for $47 > each brand new, probably from China, by Centric. I had a friend with a > really nice lathe take .475" off the finned edge to clear the brake > backing plate and opened up the center hole to fit the Southwick/Moser > axles. I also opened up the wheel stud holes because of the 1/2" studs. > If you are still using 7/16" studs you can skip this step. > I could get the part # if need be. > > Dave H. > > ___________________________________ > > From: "Jerry Van Vlack" > To: "Bill Tobin" , "Todd Redmond" > , FOT@autox.team.net > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:18:50 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums > > There is a steel liner in these drums but I doubt there is much material > that can be cut, sometimes there is a min dimension cast into a drum. > You > might look for that and if it's there be guided by that dimension. > JVV > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Tobin > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 7:38 AM > To: Todd Redmond ; FOT@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums > > Hi Todd, the quick answer is I don't think so. > There are a couple differences between the Z drums and Triumph drums. I > think one of Kas' books explained them. > By what I hear, the finned aluminum drums are no longer available. > BTW, I recently bought a set of Z drums on e-bay and am planning on > fitting > them to my TR6. I'll keep you posted. > Cheers, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Todd Redmond" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:06 PM > Subject: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums > >> Fot, >> Looking at buying a used set of Datsun 240z Aluminum finned rear brake >> drums. Found a pair. Might be a silly questions but can these be >> relined? >> Thanks Todd _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: >> http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv@roadrunner.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/stutzmans@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 21 01:38:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E38B40560 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 01:38:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.o2.co.uk (vader.london.02.net [82.132.130.150]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635EB4053A for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 01:38:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.36.94.58] (82.132.222.244) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.5.140.03) id 51B44E660252AF36; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 08:37:06 +0100 References: <2fcb967.1f87.13f5d3012b6.Webtop.0@optonline.net> <19C423585F0643EE9FCFD212D6655A46@hpd530> From: TR4 Tony Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 08:36:59 +0100 To: Bill Tobin Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Todd Bastuck remanufactured these 9.055 inch drums based on the old 240z pattern, but both the quality and machining is variable. The sell them specifically to fit the TR hub pattern. You need to do a lot of work to these to make them right, including the more obvious dimensional mods as the shoes don't sit nicely in them. Brembo used to similarly make a repro in 240z configuration. These were ok. Same issues as above though. The best solution is to get old 240z drums and machine these up, but some caution on relining needed - the issue is the lining detaching so if your guys get round this then fine, if not its a bad job. There are other alloy drums out there at the moment supplied by MOSS one in 9 inch and one for the 10 inch axle. These are mainly supplied through Racestorations and a sister company. I've tried all of these and the quality is very poor and a big accident waiting if you use the 10 inch ones particularly. The aftersales service when I had a problem was disgraceful so make your own judgement on that one. The only alloy drums I could recommend are the Typecast vintage replicas which are supplied in 10 inch - these are proper cast and spun items and a really good job. These guys are on the web as brakedum.com and in Leicester UK. Next up would be old Datsun finned type. Also note that alloy drums are fragile - one good hit and they shatter - except the typecast ones which are made of a higher quality 'softer' material. Not great for howling round on the loose. In terms of braking performance, the tests that I did a few years back on a good sample of all the various drums on my (heavy) rally car showed up the 10 inch steel drums as having the most stopping power metre by metre. The 9 inch alloy 240 z drums were close, but only because I'd toleranced them to a set of shoes that Ted S sent me years back - they were on a trigger and the whole shoe seated beautifully. Mintex M1144 shoes were also good and I used those as the 'control'. Having said all that you really have to be at the outer edge before you get any benefit over the standard steel drum when its properly vented, particularly on the 10 inch .... Even when too hot to touch. So for the cost I'd go on a diet of costly fish food to lose the weight if it got that critical. Regards to all Tony Sent from my iPhone On 20 Jun 2013, at 12:38, "Bill Tobin" wrote: > Hi Todd, the quick answer is I don't think so. > There are a couple differences between the Z drums and Triumph drums. I think one of Kas' books explained them. > By what I hear, the finned aluminum drums are no longer available. > BTW, I recently bought a set of Z drums on e-bay and am planning on fitting them to my TR6. I'll keep you posted. > Cheers, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Redmond" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:06 PM > Subject: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums > > >> Fot, >> >> Looking at buying a used set of Datsun 240z Aluminum finned rear brake drums. Found a pair. >> Might be a silly questions but can these be relined? >> >> Thanks >> Todd >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 21 05:48:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C457B40C01 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 05:48:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29E840405 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 05:48:48 -0600 (MDT) a=yr/eJ6S8SHGIc+/JdDlNag==:17 a=zkYuSOkxadoA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=--5uMDBpDW0A:10 a=ntV7sNvQ8L_U72CTCAwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=Q_TvFER3xZNGCJLrVTcA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=yr/eJ6S8SHGIc+/JdDlNag==:117 Received: from [67.255.13.17] ([67.255.13.17:51993] helo=Shop) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 92/D0-09005-14D34C15; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:47:13 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: "'FOT'" Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 07:47:15 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac5udRNyX9Z0e3KTQjezxfMNn5TL7w== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] calling Tim Slater Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone have contact info for Tim, email would be preferable. Thanks Russ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 21 06:24:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D1A40560 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 06:24:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from roproxy2-pub.unifiedlayer.com (roproxy2-pub.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.18.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D454D40405 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 06:24:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 13894 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jun 2013 12:22:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy3.unifiedlayer.com) (66.147.243.72) by roproxy2.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 21 Jun 2013 12:22:40 -0000 {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Received: from just64.justhost.com (just64.justhost.com [173.254.28.64]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.64); Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:22:40 GMT Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=65149 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uq0H8-0005ll-Cw for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 06:17:10 -0600 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 07:17:07 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews References: <2fcb967.1f87.13f5d3012b6.Webtop.0@optonline.net> <19C423585F0643EE9FCFD212D6655A46@hpd530> <6AB36B7B-99B0-4E01-A4CC-EAB4D246814A@virgin.net> {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wow. Just... wow. What GREAT information. I love this group! Tony D (the other Tony) At 02:36 AM 6/21/2013, TR4 Tony wrote: >Todd > >Bastuck remanufactured these 9.055 inch drums based on the old 240z pattern, >but both the quality and machining is variable. The sell them specifically to >fit the TR hub pattern. You need to do a lot of work to these to make them >right, including the more obvious dimensional mods as the shoes don't sit >nicely in them. > >Brembo used to similarly make a repro in 240z configuration. These were ok. >Same issues as above though. > >The best solution is to get old 240z drums and machine these up, but some >caution on relining needed - the issue is the lining detaching so if your guys >get round this then fine, if not its a bad job. > >There are other alloy drums out there at the moment supplied by MOSS one in 9 >inch and one for the 10 inch axle. These are mainly supplied through >Racestorations and a sister company. I've tried all of these and the quality >is very poor and a big accident waiting if you use the 10 inch ones >particularly. The aftersales service when I had a problem was disgraceful so >make your own judgement on that one. > >The only alloy drums I could recommend are the Typecast vintage replicas which >are supplied in 10 inch - these are proper cast and spun items and a really >good job. These guys are on the web as brakedum.com and in Leicester UK. Next >up would be old Datsun finned type. > >Also note that alloy drums are fragile - one good hit and they shatter - >except the typecast ones which are made of a higher quality 'softer' material. >Not great for howling round on the loose. > >In terms of braking performance, the tests that I did a few years back on a >good sample of all the various drums on my (heavy) rally car showed up the 10 >inch steel drums as having the most stopping power metre by metre. The 9 inch >alloy 240 z drums were close, but only because I'd toleranced them to a set of >shoes that Ted S sent me years back - they were on a trigger and the whole >shoe seated beautifully. Mintex M1144 shoes were also good and I used those as >the 'control'. > >Having said all that you really have to be at the outer edge before you get >any benefit over the standard steel drum when its properly vented, >particularly on the 10 inch .... Even when too hot to touch. So for the cost >I'd go on a diet of costly fish food to lose the weight if it got that >critical. > >Regards to all > >Tony > >Sent from my iPhone > >On 20 Jun 2013, at 12:38, "Bill Tobin" wrote: > > > Hi Todd, the quick answer is I don't think so. > > There are a couple differences between the Z drums and Triumph drums. I >think one of Kas' books explained them. > > By what I hear, the finned aluminum drums are no longer available. > > BTW, I recently bought a set of Z drums on e-bay and am planning on fitting >them to my TR6. I'll keep you posted. > > Cheers, Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Redmond" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:06 PM > > Subject: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums > > > > > >> Fot, > >> > >> Looking at buying a used set of Datsun 240z Aluminum finned rear brake >drums. Found a pair. > >> Might be a silly questions but can these be relined? > >> > >> Thanks > >> Todd _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 21 07:14:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6DD4056E for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 07:14:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C4E40405 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 07:14:24 -0600 (MDT) a=yr/eJ6S8SHGIc+/JdDlNag==:17 a=zkYuSOkxadoA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=20xTqugc0TAA:10 a=99h9unxiOUbz9AMcxzgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=NR_2z1XE4rK3VoW2xQYA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=Qg_sFrerL91amiHP:21 a=yr/eJ6S8SHGIc+/JdDlNag==:117 Received: from [67.255.13.17] ([67.255.13.17:52105] helo=Shop) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id D3/40-07405-15154C15; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 13:12:49 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: "'FOT'" Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:12:52 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac5udRNyX9Z0e3KTQjezxfMNn5TL7wAC+iFA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] calling Tim Slater Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Got it, thanks russ From: Spitfire Racing [mailto:Spitfire_Racing@twcny.rr.com] Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 7:47 AM To: 'FOT' Subject: calling Tim Slater Anyone have contact info for Tim, email would be preferable. Thanks Russ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 21 08:45:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F3D40560 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 08:45:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.159]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1248D403F6 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 08:45:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Charly (unknown [97.126.69.127]) (Authenticated sender: charly@mitchelplumbing.com) by smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E1A0A5D8095 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:43:34 -0500 (CDT) From: "Charly Mitchel" To: Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 07:43:34 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net >> Be careful of what you buy, I understand the replacements are non >> original and cast iron. >> Charly Mitchel >> ---- Original Message ----- >> From: "Stutzmans" >> To: "Todd Redmond" ; >> Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" >> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:03 PM >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums >> >> >>>I think The Roadster Factory sells new ones. >>> Bruce >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Todd Redmond" >>> To: >>> Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" >>> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 11:46 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums >>> >>> >>>> Fot >>>> >>>> Thank you for all the responses. Here's what I've learned so I'll >>>> share. >>>> >>>> The Datsun aluminum finned drums CAN be relined. The company that has >>>> done a set for a fellow FoT'er is J&G Relinging at 815-276-2578 . >>>> Approx. $175.00ea. But are as good as new, maybe better. >>>> There are several aftermarket drums out there, prices range. Don't know >>>> yet if the aftermarket ones are as good as the original or visa versa. >>>> The normal modifications apply to all. >>>> >>>> The saga continues . . . . . . >>>> >>>> Todd >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 10:09 AM, davehogye wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello Friends, I recently purchased a set of Z aluminum drums for $47 >>>> each brand new, probably from China, by Centric. I had a friend with a >>>> really nice lathe take .475" off the finned edge to clear the brake >>>> backing plate and opened up the center hole to fit the Southwick/Moser >>>> axles. I also opened up the wheel stud holes because of the 1/2" >>>> studs. >>>> If you are still using 7/16" studs you can skip this step. >>>> I could get the part # if need be. >>>> >>>> Dave H. >>>> >>>> ___________________________________ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 21 09:18:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A97C42715 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:18:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C000140E1B for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:17:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vwm3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (vwm3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.10.33]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0MOR00G34132RKJ0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:16:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [67.83.138.143] by webtop.webmail.optimum.net with HTTP; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:16:14 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:16:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Redmond To: tony@tonydrews.com User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net WOW is right! And it was sent from an iPhone! (small keyboard lots of typing) Geez us Thanks Tony! Todd On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > Wow. Just... wow. What GREAT information. I love this group! > > Tony D (the other Tony) > > At 02:36 AM 6/21/2013, TR4 Tony wrote: >> Todd >> >> Bastuck remanufactured these 9.055 inch drums based on the old 240z >> pattern, >> but both the quality and machining is variable. The sell them >> specifically to >> fit the TR hub pattern. You need to do a lot of work to these to make >> them >> right, including the more obvious dimensional mods as the shoes don't >> sit >> nicely in them. >> >> Brembo used to similarly make a repro in 240z configuration. These >> were ok. >> Same issues as above though. >> >> The best solution is to get old 240z drums and machine these up, but >> some >> caution on relining needed - the issue is the lining detaching so if >> your guys >> get round this then fine, if not its a bad job. >> >> There are other alloy drums out there at the moment supplied by MOSS >> one in 9 >> inch and one for the 10 inch axle. These are mainly supplied through >> Racestorations and a sister company. I've tried all of these and the >> quality >> is very poor and a big accident waiting if you use the 10 inch ones >> particularly. The aftersales service when I had a problem was >> disgraceful so >> make your own judgement on that one. >> >> The only alloy drums I could recommend are the Typecast vintage >> replicas which >> are supplied in 10 inch - these are proper cast and spun items and a >> really >> good job. These guys are on the web as brakedum.com and in Leicester >> UK. Next >> up would be old Datsun finned type. >> >> Also note that alloy drums are fragile - one good hit and they >> shatter - >> except the typecast ones which are made of a higher quality 'softer' >> material. >> Not great for howling round on the loose. >> >> In terms of braking performance, the tests that I did a few years >> back on a >> good sample of all the various drums on my (heavy) rally car showed >> up the 10 >> inch steel drums as having the most stopping power metre by metre. >> The 9 inch >> alloy 240 z drums were close, but only because I'd toleranced them to >> a set of >> shoes that Ted S sent me years back - they were on a trigger and the >> whole >> shoe seated beautifully. Mintex M1144 shoes were also good and I used >> those as >> the 'control'. >> >> Having said all that you really have to be at the outer edge before >> you get >> any benefit over the standard steel drum when its properly vented, >> particularly on the 10 inch .... Even when too hot to touch. So for >> the cost >> I'd go on a diet of costly fish food to lose the weight if it got >> that >> critical. >> >> Regards to all >> >> Tony >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 20 Jun 2013, at 12:38, "Bill Tobin" >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Todd, the quick answer is I don't think so. >>> There are a couple differences between the Z drums and Triumph >>> drums. I >> think one of Kas' books explained them. >>> By what I hear, the finned aluminum drums are no longer available. >>> BTW, I recently bought a set of Z drums on e-bay and am planning on >>> fitting >> them to my TR6. I'll keep you posted. >>> Cheers, Bill >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Redmond" >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:06 PM >>> Subject: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums >>> >>> >>>> Fot, >>>> >>>> Looking at buying a used set of Datsun 240z Aluminum finned rear >>>> brake >> drums. Found a pair. >>>> Might be a silly questions but can these be relined? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Todd > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 21 11:16:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0619042704 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:16:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.159]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD33D403F6 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 08:42:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Charly (unknown [97.126.69.127]) (Authenticated sender: charly@mitchelplumbing.com) by smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 2DAB15D8089 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:41:12 -0500 (CDT) From: "Charly Mitchel" To: Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 07:41:10 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Fw: Aluminum rear brake drums Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > Be careful of what you buy, I understand the replacements are non original > and cast iron. > Charly Mitchel > ---- Original Message ----- > From: "Stutzmans" > To: "Todd Redmond" ; > Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:03 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums > > >>I think The Roadster Factory sells new ones. >> Bruce >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Todd Redmond" >> To: >> Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" >> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 11:46 AM >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums >> >> >>> Fot >>> >>> Thank you for all the responses. Here's what I've learned so I'll >>> share. >>> >>> The Datsun aluminum finned drums CAN be relined. The company that has >>> done a set for a fellow FoT'er is J&G Relinging at 815-276-2578 . >>> Approx. $175.00ea. But are as good as new, maybe better. >>> There are several aftermarket drums out there, prices range. Don't know >>> yet if the aftermarket ones are as good as the original or visa versa. >>> The normal modifications apply to all. >>> >>> The saga continues . . . . . . >>> >>> Todd >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 10:09 AM, davehogye wrote: >>> >>> Hello Friends, I recently purchased a set of Z aluminum drums for $47 >>> each brand new, probably from China, by Centric. I had a friend with a >>> really nice lathe take .475" off the finned edge to clear the brake >>> backing plate and opened up the center hole to fit the Southwick/Moser >>> axles. I also opened up the wheel stud holes because of the 1/2" studs. >>> If you are still using 7/16" studs you can skip this step. >>> I could get the part # if need be. >>> >>> Dave H. >>> >>> ___________________________________ >>> >>> From: "Jerry Van Vlack" >>> To: "Bill Tobin" , "Todd Redmond" >>> , FOT@autox.team.net >>> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:18:50 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums >>> >>> There is a steel liner in these drums but I doubt there is much material >>> that can be cut, sometimes there is a min dimension cast into a drum. >>> You >>> might look for that and if it's there be guided by that dimension. >>> JVV >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Bill Tobin >>> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 7:38 AM >>> To: Todd Redmond ; FOT@autox.team.net >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums >>> >>> Hi Todd, the quick answer is I don't think so. >>> There are a couple differences between the Z drums and Triumph drums. I >>> think one of Kas' books explained them. >>> By what I hear, the finned aluminum drums are no longer available. >>> BTW, I recently bought a set of Z drums on e-bay and am planning on >>> fitting >>> them to my TR6. I'll keep you posted. >>> Cheers, Bill >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Todd Redmond" >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:06 PM >>> Subject: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums >>> >>>> Fot, >>>> Looking at buying a used set of Datsun 240z Aluminum finned rear brake >>>> drums. Found a pair. Might be a silly questions but can these be >>>> relined? >>>> Thanks Todd _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: >>>> http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv@roadrunner.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye@comcast.net >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/stutzmans@comcast.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2013.0.3345 / Virus Database: 3199/6427 - Release Date: 06/20/13 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 21 11:32:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A4BC40438 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:32:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.o2.co.uk (yoda.london.02.net [82.132.130.151]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E853403EC for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:32:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.241.98.206] (82.132.236.160) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.5.140.03) id 51C1D5C9006E0C75; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 18:30:49 +0100 References: <2572a8e3.358c.13f674ea30d.Webtop.33@optonline.net> From: TR4 Tony Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 18:30:26 +0100 To: Todd Redmond Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yeah well .... Public transport and all that ! Happy Friday everyone Sent from my iPhone On 21 Jun 2013, at 16:16, Todd Redmond wrote: > WOW is right! And it was sent from an iPhone! (small keyboard lots of typing) Geez us > > Thanks Tony! > Todd > > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > >> Wow. Just... wow. What GREAT information. I love this group! >> >> Tony D (the other Tony) >> >> At 02:36 AM 6/21/2013, TR4 Tony wrote: >>> Todd >>> >>> Bastuck remanufactured these 9.055 inch drums based on the old 240z pattern, >>> but both the quality and machining is variable. The sell them specifically to >>> fit the TR hub pattern. You need to do a lot of work to these to make them >>> right, including the more obvious dimensional mods as the shoes don't sit >>> nicely in them. >>> >>> Brembo used to similarly make a repro in 240z configuration. These were ok. >>> Same issues as above though. >>> >>> The best solution is to get old 240z drums and machine these up, but some >>> caution on relining needed - the issue is the lining detaching so if your guys >>> get round this then fine, if not its a bad job. >>> >>> There are other alloy drums out there at the moment supplied by MOSS one in 9 >>> inch and one for the 10 inch axle. These are mainly supplied through >>> Racestorations and a sister company. I've tried all of these and the quality >>> is very poor and a big accident waiting if you use the 10 inch ones >>> particularly. The aftersales service when I had a problem was disgraceful so >>> make your own judgement on that one. >>> >>> The only alloy drums I could recommend are the Typecast vintage replicas which >>> are supplied in 10 inch - these are proper cast and spun items and a really >>> good job. These guys are on the web as brakedum.com and in Leicester UK. Next >>> up would be old Datsun finned type. >>> >>> Also note that alloy drums are fragile - one good hit and they shatter - >>> except the typecast ones which are made of a higher quality 'softer' material. >>> Not great for howling round on the loose. >>> >>> In terms of braking performance, the tests that I did a few years back on a >>> good sample of all the various drums on my (heavy) rally car showed up the 10 >>> inch steel drums as having the most stopping power metre by metre. The 9 inch >>> alloy 240 z drums were close, but only because I'd toleranced them to a set of >>> shoes that Ted S sent me years back - they were on a trigger and the whole >>> shoe seated beautifully. Mintex M1144 shoes were also good and I used those as >>> the 'control'. >>> >>> Having said all that you really have to be at the outer edge before you get >>> any benefit over the standard steel drum when its properly vented, >>> particularly on the 10 inch .... Even when too hot to touch. So for the cost >>> I'd go on a diet of costly fish food to lose the weight if it got that >>> critical. >>> >>> Regards to all >>> >>> Tony >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 20 Jun 2013, at 12:38, "Bill Tobin" wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Todd, the quick answer is I don't think so. >>>> There are a couple differences between the Z drums and Triumph drums. I >>> think one of Kas' books explained them. >>>> By what I hear, the finned aluminum drums are no longer available. >>>> BTW, I recently bought a set of Z drums on e-bay and am planning on fitting >>> them to my TR6. I'll keep you posted. >>>> Cheers, Bill >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Redmond" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:06 PM >>>> Subject: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums >>>> >>>> >>>>> Fot, >>>>> >>>>> Looking at buying a used set of Datsun 240z Aluminum finned rear brake >>> drums. Found a pair. >>>>> Might be a silly questions but can these be relined? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Todd >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 21 11:42:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB7240C01 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:42:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E78403EC for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:42:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7BBA0E6B for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:43:43 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:43:43 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: Friends of Triumph References: <2fcb967.1f87.13f5d3012b6.Webtop.0@optonline.net> <19C423585F0643EE9FCFD212D6655A46@hpd530> <6AB36B7B-99B0-4E01-A4CC-EAB4D246814A@virgin.net> <20130621122430.A02EE40566@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum rear brake drums Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tony Drews wrote: > Wow. Just... wow. What GREAT information. I love this group! Yep, this is a great list, probably my favorite, well worth the bit of effort required. Like last weekend when the network starting flaking out, at random times. Frustrating to track down, but finally fixed by a trip to Best Buy and less than $100. I probably could have saved a few bucks shopping online, but I had no line to be on ;-) And others also support this whole group, there are a few who are consistently generous during the spring fund drive, or at random times over the course of the year. Hopefully I'll be able to offer some personal thank yous at this year's Kastner Kup event! mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 22 14:10:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 617524040B for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 14:10:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309C04038B for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 14:06:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id rXtk1l0011zF43QA3Y4L7m; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 20:04:20 +0000 Received: from locutus ([75.70.96.161]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id rY4F1l0103UuT0T8kY4Kk4; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 20:04:19 +0000 From: "Jim Gray" To: "'Triumph Friends of'" Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 14:01:32 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac5vg0pnVcX8u5/tSCK2OBLwrt8+/g== s=q20121106; t=1371931460; bh=S8zPtmilon5I4nOPxBntIixf7UNb1ZgylQDObHsIo84=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LxrJ+lKITXEQ7zDlXfyciltpb4KHi+WFGMPFaG0Oe2L0+98C+GLwVKSg5bZk84t/+ CQsLbvznbwKCGsfjuvH7IeEE2ZFDrtyukcAZuKREVvKecylM/xlr0V6xBaxggEr0RF /JsjeQcyXfNi2w/pYd51f/xUEKKojA3+O6BCzcRICF+GWgAqcmK8bhsTbJdKINlnB8 Mug+aa4jQSuDyGdioY2FhqzqMx8vyPPBxM23YcbaOFNefJY80kui0mbRbqvFSKkFlP pPDx5XJGioLkSF46tVqHnCdkRyxHHpSuSmreiwSmUJyJlaMoE/vaVU/xb50Xk2PnNC KC/lO74C+KnnQ== Subject: [Fot] Curious Air Fuel Ratio numbers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Greetings FoT I'm tuning a fresh motor and am getting some strange numbers on my AFR gauge ( autometer wide band ) with Mikuni HSR45 carbs. I have a very different engine than last year so I'm starting from scratch on my jetting this year. I just put in a fresh 02 sensor and am seeing AFR of 9.4 at 4k RPM cruise and WOT from 3K to 6K. However, when I lift from 6K to zero throttle the air fuel goes to 10:1, 11:1 and 12:1. The plugs have some color but nothing indicating a mixture that rich. I haven't done any proper full throttle shut downs on the plugs yet, just trying to get closer with AFR's & EGT's Exhaust gasses haven't gone over 1200F yet. Since the car is registered for the street I'm just trying to get a tune that's close before I get it the dyno for the " real tune " I haven't ruled out a faulty gauge/afr reading either. I've had new parts let me down before. Just wondering if anyone has seen a mixture go lean after throttle lift. Seems kinda bass ackwards. Thanks as always, jim g _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 22 23:13:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B18D4274C for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 23:13:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d09.mx.aol.com (omr-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0040403DF for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 23:13:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.133]) by omr-d09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8D9D870000093; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 01:11:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (158.sub-70-193-0.myvzw.com [70.193.0.158]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 27A2DE0000D9; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 01:11:46 -0400 (EDT) References: <20130622201149.DE4A640406@autox.team.net> From: Jack Mc Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 01:11:43 -0400 To: Jim Gray x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1371964306; bh=Ud3HFYpvx2tW7MQ2zzedzv8iO1bbbL33Mon+a/8+pl4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=OnPAogbb7rfdOHviQP/fAdMtAiAKBj+H8tN4gmtV2PE8PJjUsx9coDHDfuf+TtXrC jVp6kMzd6m1ixkONggj8lwOOK1PkrrQ2x8IHQycn4s/mUhAivLjhFAVo9bWegI4XKS 4rEzEqu4/FptCqWOujV87w7cEoaYFH5fo/WPf6lY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338551c6839272c4 Cc: Triumph Friends of Subject: Re: [Fot] Curious Air Fuel Ratio numbers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, I've seen the mixture "go lean" after throttle lift - it's counter-intuitive, but it happens when, even though the amount of unburned fuel goes up, the amount of oxygen not reduced by combustion goes up even more - so the mixture ratio indicates lean. I (along with a more experienced business partner) opened a Dyno shop almost a year ago - one of the first things I learned was not to be misled by this phenomenon. Cheers, Jack Mc Sent from my iPad On Jun 22, 2013, at 4:01 PM, "Jim Gray" wrote: > Greetings FoT > > I'm tuning a fresh motor and am getting some strange numbers on my AFR gauge > ( autometer wide band ) > > with Mikuni HSR45 carbs. > > I have a very different engine than last year so I'm starting from scratch > on my jetting this year. > > I just put in a fresh 02 sensor and am seeing AFR of 9.4 at 4k RPM cruise > and WOT from 3K to 6K. > > However, when I lift from 6K to zero throttle the air fuel goes to 10:1, > 11:1 and 12:1. > > The plugs have some color but nothing indicating a mixture that rich. I > haven't done any proper full throttle > > shut downs on the plugs yet, just trying to get closer with AFR's & EGT's > > Exhaust gasses haven't gone over 1200F yet. Since the car is registered for > the street I'm just trying to get > > a tune that's close before I get it the dyno for the " real tune " > > I haven't ruled out a faulty gauge/afr reading either. I've had new parts > let me down before. > > Just wondering if anyone has seen a mixture go lean after throttle lift. > Seems kinda bass ackwards. > > Thanks as always, > > jim g > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/limeyv8@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 23 10:18:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D144E403DE for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 10:18:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f41.google.com (mail-qa0-f41.google.com [209.85.216.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356A640338 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 10:17:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id f14so1719159qak.14 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 09:15:47 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=qwFtwlLtXlPkNxyjQmBgh5ZdvLYjye4KooRmZQnmUxI=; b=rjEz/gLtHqWecSzxrFCFYW6TvM1LoywSGdQY5Ycx8TOBFc1FNx+wCsBVYFONtFxq35 zfiGcoTAglOZ801LGdkWbAJOSZMJKQhwIys9jLDQNq8VjvEkIgr7964r0dju44m2fsW5 74zmhuFKfhGJ88Ehdz2zjfz7RIXojbb0WbtZiehcw14IJLuKcO3YuITt78G9Cfl+xKa+ meD6PLLzw6uhI+9EMGytGuB4UIiSgs6dHJqhUskDYZElvToWbxgyMjTYCtldKUPNiDzo DJDl3MiZLQzDTmZXv5yinDZlVehtMzio+Xe5m3xSD7ChBDf8AWUHIaWMEUcPH4jZS0f1 ltnQ== q14mr14589984qeu.90.1372004147732; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 09:15:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.11.69 with HTTP; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 09:15:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Kas Kastner Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 09:15:07 -0700 To: fot Subject: [Fot] New book finally Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Just to let folks know, my rewrite of the *Triumph Preparation Handbook new edition* is now available on my web site *kaskastner.com*. You can get this as an instant download or an autographed disc. Along with that we have also put up a YouTube panel that has the IMSA GTP NISSAN Prototype racing videos that were made back in the late 80's and early 90's. *Never be beaten by equipment.* _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 23 10:51:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733AD403DE for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 10:51:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51BF140338 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 10:51:36 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=V5oMgZqDcV8A:10 a=qSDf8LLeAAAA:8 a=Uo98L97swgH0VfycQasA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=3fNAB32DAEwA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55013] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 35/A1-14128-F2727C15; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 16:49:51 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'fot'" Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 09:49:56 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac5wLSNlTXi94X0OSy2qja899CNRSQABCCAQ Subject: Re: [Fot] New book finally Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > Just to let folks know, my rewrite of the *Triumph > Preparation Handbook new > edition* is now available on my web site *kaskastner.com*. Thanks, Kas. I'm sure others will have the same question : Is there significant new content, or is it essentially the same as the first one ? Also, is the "ebook" in PDF format, or something else? -- Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 23 11:40:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B16440338 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 11:40:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f182.google.com (mail-ea0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFE040338 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 11:39:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f182.google.com with SMTP id d10so5655085eaj.41 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 10:38:11 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=swWLsJ6+VN/4IbFJIblj6WqczMi5F8QqmdZppQvuhDA=; b=bzsBiHg7jK7TUnddEJ+psu4adI7U5BH76FaHOc4JuYnskaH0APXozI4qIjEVNVzAH8 SwJjftENkYx9i5KKpouvedXCkkXHtjiwIyBohVBD0RmMj0ujr73tNeqdmGaWHMq19N+W QT+TFrTG5OmifSGBMmNBZQr44VhNHiBR+3Zv4EkQ7wHax4pbhNo2AEOsMfKhHKs36aBU jlGGhUYX3l7v16w2qYrqlBvmfmeqC7kTuah9JSd55j6WX0F3wS99GMpegZOeGfBRh4jv eTGWahDH5zukCNIt4A7i9I70TqZoAO78zPqZrnbmEqZfXMMYudWC0LmYfh1Z6G+FJb+2 TGmg== x13mr21290763eej.77.1372009091300; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 10:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home (ip-109-84-61-114.web.vodafone.de. [109.84.61.114]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o5sm22589913eef.5.2013.06.23.10.38.09 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 23 Jun 2013 10:38:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Triumph Friends of'" References: <20130622201112.6654E403CF@autox.team.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 19:38:12 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac5vg0pnVcX8u5/tSCK2OBLwrt8+/gAtQ7HA Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Curious Air Fuel Ratio numbers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I don't know if this is a help but many of my videos show AF values. Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 23 13:08:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91EFA40417 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 13:08:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm12-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm12-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.105]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC6CB42714 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 16:30:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jun 2013 22:28:49 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.162] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jun 2013 22:28:49 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1073.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jun 2013 22:28:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 39709 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jun 2013 22:28:49 -0000 s=s1024; t=1371940129; bh=e+iYv+EEl9aiywSxHswE3XS9gw+J5gOSOhB7fXmMhlU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qB6l6nIFAM3VulLjEyhSgRniKk7Gc01oSu1r8p7ttmaNDoFypFAA/9GkruCvZx+ZD2V9ntbIzACbicphz9Byb80o3YbT3kBxgbkspAYXAZSFD5WhH3RnkvfdvFvGBY04dp395hsiJQgUQ71R7h1amlWWZP7wdlxHzov7846XzQQ= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=W5Y8xBPkfsrRuOHRW1dMbm99WA/l89sse6cIb33O7pZoviimdjb57JWTBOICg3Qymz2R792E9BatdkUEMVsPn87NO6ZHxpPr5VNIIqqsno9ZsyZHSimFrCVsqxc0lERd8VIwDybwuoW/Lhj7slBuso06idgNPANvFJpZ0lSd00k=; JkhdGPHoyWXbaHbgTkSE9YKTRJo8CFcIMWn3RUXU6V_yxtoPkVNhi25Dw7xt aegd7QkKknU4Y8e4bkA3AIJuppyqbAqsGMo1PmmU90sjOtcVXnmVF9i1pIZa wGRKo4d6BjnM3z.VnSxP2lvznBblSxuIHpjZxcCbxy740rhwjuF9B4wOTwWO sRXgzGwHBgORErxoGhVpX5g.wuACPdXUY0LcWZlFyz4TDLRlWDB7UK_d.BGn u0cjeAF5PlAaTd7ndqDGlExAUQ0ra2JucW9NguVbCEm0Of53SMN6hUvqYlWv O6cmcNXGs0uUevYm90.DgVHFw45AabZP927WQ_9mt0oIoJv0jc4djjEZIvzq ueTafY98KPNjzZyDK2CYZfSMoGrdiwJeB9C4fyL6DMlenZlGIJA9mQfxticK SiPXI1KuTypD2tBBaFExXzkgD_jfrDxsR4DWtkMz0DkEZfgpXGxhQTQn6qQy n2v345FOGfggfvGIKYIus2mgRLNfMV7xCawzzdDFoTd5nD2rAKAx3u7VCAxF tlo6dfWo6EGy4lzpz_Lhc3Sx2avHMmBBR8bPuHhqv6Z2CEVETVyTuK5kDykT XrlQunWAGxNz4tWg9vkHIYJ9UbdycpY9wnrrdjEyF9Vzp_Qba5UH5xLvStXB Fc1MrE9on8bQm5HWvboyjMtEe_nK6Fm2JBPhwquoyORb1XAbK_VzhY8qPH9. W5ILZVPCcFALPREr.hAVoaxLhG77_Ikl2n7KKZ97fqDWYn4FXU0Q1MrXQYn8 4ZxLZNv4_wanzuRXfwGCpcdTjXldyMxSHjgi4mMziuTjVfZpo6jUcgMbxNUP qoC1LAo25s4NvQPABsKsir76t5kfU_9RUCZscryAPFxGlC6t0SsauCaX8P7E mr5MZdhwGNkUh7rAtF5dUcWA6CO2fOBccHPULtt38DgfO.rBeCxwU9ldF8zb F9SpFJmscUoB9F3PAtsvEPG2kblJfaPXAiT_q2ifJghqGvI1aOZo5.7O1yra y Received: from [174.30.110.152] by web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 15:28:48 PDT CgpGb3IgSW1tZWRpYXRlIFJlbGVhc2U6IFBsZWFzZSBwdXQgaW50byBwdWJsaWNhdGlvbiBhbmQgc2hhcmUKClRoZSBGcmllbmRzIG9mIFRyaXVtcGggUHJlc2VudHM6CgpUaGUgS2FzdG5lciBDdXAgMjAxMwoKVGhlcmUgYXJlIHNvbWUgZXZlbnRzIHRoYXQgYXJlIGxpZmUgY2hhbmdpbmcuIE5vdCBvbmx5IG9uZSBldmVudCwgYnV0IG1hbnkgYXNwZWN0cyBhbmQgc2lkZXMgdG8gYSB3aG9sZSBleHBlcmllbmNlLiBKdXN0IHRoZSB0aG91Z2h0IG9mIGl0IGdpdmVzIG1lIGdvb3NlYnVtcHMuIFRoZSBwYXJ0aWMBMAEBAQE- References: <1371567112.55605.YahooMailNeo@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1371935991.86038.YahooMailNeo@web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 15:28:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Shawn Frank To: "adsales@hemmings.com" , "d.randyriggs@comcast.net" , "mikesilverman@cox.net" , "tony@svra.com" , "jon@svra.com" , "editor@vintageracecar.com" , "chris@vrgonline.org" , "info@legacymotorsport.com" , "victorylanedeveloper@gmail.com" , NASS , Friends of Triumph , "vscda@vscda.org" , "john@race-dogs.com" , "Editors@CARandDRIVER.com" Subject: [Fot] Fw: Kastner Cup 2013 press release Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net For Immediate Release: Please put into publication and share The Friends of Triumph Presents: The Kastner Cup 2013 There are some events that are life changing. Not only one event, but many aspects and sides to a whole experience. Just the thought of it gives me goosebumps. The particular event we are excited about is the Kastner Cup 2013. It is the 11th installment in an annual event filled with racing history. Starting in 2003 in Ontario, Canada at Mosport International Raceway and has been held at different historic villages with racetracks in the forefront all over North America. With locations like Watkins Glen, Road Atlanta, Laguna Seca, and other race tracks, this installment for 2013 should prove to be the largest and most historic of them all. The Village of Elkhart Lake, WI is alive with racing influence and sights that any motor sports fan can relish for life. From the old course still in place with landmarks like turn five, The Hard Left, to the start/finish line distinctly marked in the background of the famous Seibken's Resort and Tavern. Elegance, style, ambiance are all felt while standing in the center of it all. Did Paul Newman sit in this very chair? Did Kas Kastner stay in this room? The mind can't help but wander off into thoughts of high revs and tire smoke. The prominence and prestige of the rich and famous, the finer things right before your very eyes. Even visiting the small village's benefits like quaint antique shops, personable cafes, and local villagers' smiles and welcoming waves, all with the sweet song of horsepower in the distance. This weekend will be filled with "can't miss" events. Take in a stroll around the green terrain, eat at a five star restaurant, order a drink at Seibken's Bar, enjoy the Gather on the Green Vintage Car Show near the old start/finish line in the Osthoff Luxury Resort courtyard, or hang out at the track all day and soak up the sights and sounds that are only present at this event. If you have a car, you are in for a special treat. There will be Old Course reenactments, tour laps at Road America, and wind in your hair while following vintage cars wanting to be a part of it all just like you. This promises to be a touch of it all. A hint of the honor and glory of yester-years. Not only will there be racing, but it will be a display of how things used to be. Real men in rockets on the razor's edge in cars that are rebuilt to specs of their prime. 40, 50, 60 year old cars humming a tune of power around Canada corner and up the hill towards the tower. Spectators, aptly pegged "Fence Monkeys" peering around the corners trying to get a glimpse of days of glory past. The smell of burnt rubber and exhaust fumes ever present at every corner of this "4 Miles of Black Magic". This will be the place to be, the thing to do, and will coexist with the VSCDA's Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival starting September 6th and continuing through September 8th. The Kastner Cup will be the crown jewel of this entire weekend. Someone will be awarded the prestigious Kastner Cup. It won't necessarily be the fastest driver. It is possible to win twice, just not consecutively, but I guarantee they will be pushing as hard as everyone else. There is yet to be a repeat winner. The Kastner Cup is based on 50% track performance, 25% car presentation, and 25% attitude and interest in Vintage Racing. Come be a part of it all. Take in all the sights and sounds that this once in a lifetime experience has to offer. Whether you are a racer or spectator, we promise you will develop fond memories and meet people with the same passion and love for vintage cars and the lifestyle that comes with being a custodian of such works of art, displays of form and function, and historic drivers alike. See you there. September 6th-8th at Elkhart Lake, WI. VSCDA's Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival and Kastner Cup 2013 are waiting for you... For Tickets and camping info: http://www.roadamerica.com/ For Driver Entry, Race Schedules, Etc: http://www.vscda.org/ Host Hotel/Resort and Lodging info: http://www.osthoff.com/ Driver and Crew info: http://www.fot-racing.com/ Other Lodging info: http://www.siebkens.com/ View pictures: http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ContinuedLegacy/library/Kastner%20Cup%20201 3%20Press%20release?sort=3&page=1 There will be more info coming on package deals exclusively to Friends of Triumph, VTR, TRA, 6 PAK, VSCDA, ELVF, and NASS members. These packages will include welcome dinner (Friday night) with Kas Kastner, old course re-enactment, crew assignments for the famous Triumph TR 250K, prime paddock parking (Triumphs only), Gather on the Green car show on the Osthoff Resort lawn, Road America track touring, and much more for the whole weekend. Everyone with packages and a Triumph will be able to take a pre-grid lap of Road America on Sunday before the Kastner Cup. For package info and forms, please email me at my71spit13@yahoo.com. Please share this with others that may be interested in attending this epic, once-in-a-lifetime event. Shawn Frank _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 23 20:25:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EFF540423 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 20:25:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm8.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm8.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.209]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0954840078 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 20:25:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.200] by nm8.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jun 2013 02:23:31 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.99] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jun 2013 02:23:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1004.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jun 2013 02:23:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 92618 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Jun 2013 02:23:30 -0000 s=s1024; t=1372040610; bh=sUlLm5nO8VtUnY7ULeljfokVYZ+B+p10ioPdsOajYyU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1fbUpakgYTuQx9XgzG6wcD/yFVUCT6kUuVcwf5jCAk5cxVzE9dn6U1qBc4R8KHXlFDoc6kL7It+eGRD5MFurqZhhBd7+iMfd54Hi/awQrLLrPqsW2hYGhElIOJIhU3xb1jLePX8r5ox6z/yTVnedz+Q4SZumg6qObumsxP4sj88= s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AFGYNVbC+pDUwKCh9MT61GLqHp+TEMGua475ALuyxP+UQ4w024pWC0l46QAp8htmxVRQm+28wtfzL4S0gHi14E3npuQ90gYJSoxMcjDQkUpv1bktC9qgt+XwVw2ziQfSPPtWGeaeMhKPNEamo/jQo5vaCIcT9OKQO5v8CkC6aMY=; jky.eFikVzO7fsIPBFy29Q0lPr.MAtPqrfPbb.W9htYW37CYu14YcVTTKpMI zZcIwpDO7mBK7d5qTay_xppF1puttWUcT1.Mhb0dIRyhFpHtFQWqv.Bhp1ua vhr5AkOrAXWuLTGOGcSBCwpWpR_UYZ.KerZ6B8DjUc8In9sWOF0yMf6.D0er BbHxUoTWCl4s63guF5.wcsWSnJw03W_w2tlCiqJD08gfTohAUGMPhOa9iF3p A8FF2L_10nIt1NswKOGTDmBnDzkATKJRaKuf9GjS2uyJf5IFnpvxc.ztvN3a Ro4HQaSMLXmdUT1HO7rhbGQ3QtQm_BW.V.a6x_gSr3RHDJ9_m3uVH3Sgkxup Es2SMpmhyzek64wlRSCAkkGgONgYoXIqbCDQ07DppPxadPUDW0mv70XnyprD MauctYJh4AS8QF5COW2D_6.GWEznRfAuo3yTTCq7fDY5wamHRiB5gYyEWlLC cwl_TplD1d2lPOGpZtRTmpOx1er_XZFRMlEW776wxPRrNIAmBQgw6l1z47PE Q.MmnSo0bedoDi7A0.3u27ujQ5wOhZQ_LfagBYTKuWIM30wdSloYIDe5WskX GhdoaNUZsUSMo53QJwzemgcGq8IRyNmsPr2XCjBfSk3f4UUj4jzVKjaJlj6X XX_6sCDIKRVMGLAmo_ubiNQ9CsZWMS..fOM8ZD3nmkEOy6PQ1o_OZqmC.J0H oD0WqxGBzfJBFuCHb33Dk8Nn9BH4jt5HJ5_5LRn_0.L517Po3kcZu737derM ssCi2QPWCQ5nSKd2nqsQ9uM4Nu1Ia4NVjjJrYlohS90vIEa4DMT9CmCYItE2 u6EdANixKY4p7zIg6jSJSJvXH3LjU0.2QpR_mvMGcMGKzQ9BOrgeFTXaucqj Uz6uXORIQIGp.YxcC7fFZjEX7FJDCUCTMVu1tzfLPkRuGZtgM0HYSWW5JxOb ISkhWIm8P1oIBDgtOM84WG8VMIIV5yd4y3EK6o4EhZwsvS5J7cpAiVQEdMa5 lpAufTjZSorcLNF..KrLpQW0jK8JVghs7lP5DRLbBptkRU_gHjn7uw7QZ5Hd wM4II.o1lPIurPhDDl.HFCpmHHda4doi9YOtaTo7KCB8_9alBboKDHR3XqD0 9wWhafzOSgQV098rJj6BQk_ttY5pmM.XH5sQZSDcSrjoegX6EvwNaWC5WFkv .nzHbpwOrqSFbHMYWTtkfUtC57ZBhj.1P9zHmRCjppVekWj_bcpI2PJmSbp3 h6UQT1Kvp8fM8VVba_TP.QqcvqaPycWsqGWTgCrNE222t7eGmJ8N4RST30_0 AsNlP2nEEamN_QykXjjom4QfcjoN6Z097r9.RsVHXsGm4Mn7tImJhYMHgbH4 4gGkdNDZdfsuKYI48p14cl0WK3jA9Ilo6HYAV_ZWe2mrYYQAd1QAu.1xzWU3 n0QLcYIFTO..RR.wVRKMHiIkpMY6n24AbqZ8dhrWZf9A8Y2jHL_r7y9BaxMU Apa_1TK45dlHLY0o_.SvjEC7GA0Y5Xp05JZGU7IrWeNq4L0687XmkbpoB62_ GAjKSrCQbE4Zz3ya2CQLzCC.nvVpaV2G79hqD3kTr.PLRnCcLB79gfylnVo7 2fN.uK8IAZ1NzHbE0DnISoYMDkbho4nlcoufokdYioGQSyJQxa_viwRlOANw UYFAB8mrL0UzCZQpNSqPR9X9C28S3opcASbToX_dtofbmErycskONP3.Xi_t YXXjuU8zAHoBLWiDzkbeuubwtvC7RunGCSekpeiZ.CQo2u3jZ.doG7araJWf NankljdQnAzFenlLC11Ooa68LYPcutl6GVXJloPfLnqaWV77Dm8fbXaFZpX_ gZyS6WRr3NgS.psyZKhb7HH9HR3o0RMeqO3U9yhspQKUlN2FPk_Xli7jYHwa fnpcA32Lh2jOb68SuO_59KMtg3bRqHewaedVggpHnOLEY7oCDgXkl5O_OAtX aDsAwpuEzy9q1dtED8jGOcSvLFA-- Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web181403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 19:23:30 PDT R3JvdXA6IFRoaXMgd2FzIHBvc3RlZCBvbiBhbm90aGVyIHJhY2luZyBsaXN0IHRoYXQgSSBhbSBhIG1lbWJlciBvZi4gSXQgaXMgaW4gcmVzcG9uc2UgdG8gYW5vdGhlciByYWNpbmcgZmF0YWxpdHksIHRoaXMgb25lIGF0IExlTWFucyB5ZXN0ZXJkYXkuIFRoaXMgd2FzIHRoZSBmb3VydGggb3IgZmlmdGggdGhhdCBJIGtub3cgb2bCoGluIHByb2Zlc3Npb25hbCByYWNpbmcgdGhpcyB5ZWFyLgpJIGd1ZXNzIGFsbCBJIGNhbiBzYXkgaXMgd2UgcGF5IG91ciBtb25leTsgd2UgdGFrZSBvdXIgY2hhbmNlcwotRWQBMAEBAQE- References: <1371993231.16405.YahooMailNeo@web161806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <21274B8315A64151AC7234533846BA39@DavidPC> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 19:23:30 -0700 (PDT) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Another racing fatality Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Group: This was posted on another racing list that I am a member of. It is in response to another racing fatality, this one at LeMans yesterday. This was the fourth or fifth that I know ofB in professional racing this year. I guess all I can say is we pay our money; we take our chances -Ed- ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: David Schmidt To: RacingHistory@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [RH] Jason Leffler accident B I stumbled on this yesterday while reading some of the comments about Allan Simonsenbs fatal at LeMans yesterday. I think it is something everyone of us who has ever strapped in has said in some form or another. Lord, I pray as I race today, Keep me safe along the way. Not only me, but others too, As we compete, drive hard, drive true. I know that in every race, I will desire to set the pace. Let not my desire for more speed, Warp my judgment and turn in to greed. >From green to checkered, guide me through, Giving me strength to know what to do. Remind me often in the race of life, How to cope with all the strife. Help me accept the wins I may receive, And accept the defeats, most graciously. Ride with me, don't allow me to lag, Guide me all the way to the checkered flag. B B Rest well Allan, Jason, Danny, Eddie, Pat, Bill and all the others who left us all too soon for the big bullring....... B Smitty Houston __._,_.___ Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (10) Recent Activity: * New Members 3 Visit Your Group B B B B B B B B B B B B B Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest b" Unsubscribe b" Terms of Use b" Send us Feedback . __,_._,___ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 24 04:45:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5CE40415 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 04:45:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s15.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s15.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.90]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C826C4032C for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 04:45:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT401-EAS130 ([65.55.90.71]) by snt0-omc2-s15.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 24 Jun 2013 03:43:38 -0700 References: From: Vince G Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 06:43:35 -0400 To: Kas Kastner FILETIME=[AF68B200:01CE70C7] Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] New book finally Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Kas, Is there a particular book that will give me the most advice on the GT6? Thanks Sent from my iPhone On 2013-06-23, at 12:17 PM, "Kas Kastner" wrote: > Just to let folks know, my rewrite of the *Triumph Preparation Handbook new > edition* is now available on my web site *kaskastner.com*. You can get > this as an instant download or an autographed disc. > > Along with that we have also put up a YouTube panel that has the IMSA GTP > NISSAN Prototype racing videos that were made back in the late 80's and > early 90's. > > *Never be beaten by equipment.* > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 24 06:22:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B25D4044D for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 06:22:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm9.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm9.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.210]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF6340043 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 06:22:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.199] by nm9.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jun 2013 12:20:54 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.109] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jun 2013 12:20:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1014.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jun 2013 12:20:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 47857 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Jun 2013 12:20:53 -0000 s=s1024; t=1372076453; bh=bxiMUhjBNPh5T3JYPI+kN3mgnsbbLAYraLZaFWKV5No=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KUCqyIxaXKys+AO6L/NRVaDeYfNi33xqPctkngtnVCCacHoUjdt1mXtmgPNEiwmXTp3oYPY3Ql3qqVGE7da6UMmaIPFIym6UP9LtU1vcC5jmCiGIJWQPSFTwc1wqQr56DTemRP7YbMqqGysxx1zyOmStFCy1L+DVipq8yHPslEU= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OBOu6hW623K+7AZZAhQJNApEECKntZnB3BKjGikJIY6pY2k9FeZFD7ZDjK4FFeM32V5lwNlnIK8iN1zJ13S1kVh//8Vtm8E+sKrH64rqvIwcHPAuHJmS9WHaXmrj/4dgRb2KCGxU3PB61pymn7U1k9GUz0oFseINRtZxdRfT6NE=; .BmByL2G1cJH3hO8Id43C8V.o8S3m4ABB2MbsoCoqdH2qq9qrmJlTPfaxadA hRQep0FWl61307MgdlMDCEfO6WZTe.uSJqL4xJc3hNLv13o6WegtqUsXgDuB fKuVTTFn5c8Px5rTa2oXDa_oHGz52rg4jzEyFJ_9MfzlzCPFz2XunMKI0HHX k6Qe4axyUdCaplCpvfMusYxkk5VMo6bcGlgoJIYfGGeRhjsAPQyeYADbUWX8 R4wfEaj7MgZi5sHW2cimGvLGBFvynk4zV08y1ymlJIwdXEMqUB9dCSTx5VH4 0bqMV3wQKDAv6o_mUvXGtvXqtkVB9z5uQ6Phl4LF7AX3gYIuKYuMSBkpxMfL Nmlw6xwXugZi3Y5zBm9zfHjNE4SZdCxGmBufPQ5Zu2.PR.xjlnMgKuAUnKET 6fGDHlP.PjOzZgKPgcneb45S_SUbcDwxPM33GdU7yfYqMJVIK96_u7Pay6lK K.p0NtaElpYGNdUtqExx_Rz0- Received: from [162.198.152.23] by web182204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 05:20:53 PDT V2l0aCB0aGUgZGF3biBvZiB0aGUgbmV3IGFnZSBhbmQgdGhlIGFsaWdubWVudCBvZiB0aGUgbmV3IHdvcmxkIG9yZGVyIHRha2luZyAKc2hhcGUsIG9jY2FzaW9uYWxseSBvbiBtdXN0IHRha2UgYSBmZXcgc3RlcHMgYmFjayB0byBiZSByaWdodCB3aXRoIHRoZSB3b3JsZC4gClRoaXMgcGFzdCB3ZWVrZW5kIGlzIG9uZSBzdWNoIGV2ZW50IHdoZW4gdGhlIENodW1wIFNlcmllcyBjYW1lIHRvIHRoZSB3ZWxsIHVzZWQgClRleGFzIFdvcmxkIFNwZWVkd2F5IGluIENvbGxlZ2UgU3RhdGlvbiBUZXhhcy4gU2l4IGYBMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 05:20:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] Triumphs are still relevant, even today Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net With the dawn of the new age and the alignment of the new world order taking shape, occasionally on must take a few steps back to be right with the world. This past weekend is one such event when the Chump Series came to the well used Texas World Speedway in College Station Texas. Six fearless champions came to show to the world, once again, that the Triumph marque was still relevant and worthy. Team FOGHAT (five old guys have a Triumph) ... (yes we can't count either) proudly campaigned a true crap can car.. in theory there are supposed to be $500 cars that enter the event... now I don't know about you but I've looked far and wide for a $500 Miata (or Myyaatah according to our Canadian driver) and I've never found one,,, much less a BMW or a SHO.. but our car I happen to know was a former Lemons car owned by Bob Kramer that was a $200 car.. 1970 TR6 bone stock and not worthy of much..but it was complete. We campaigned all day Saturday from start to checker flag EIGHT hours in 95 degree heat. A big thanks to the CoolShirt company indeed. We had tires that were very predictable, they would not hold a corner at all. That night the tires were switched out for sticky tires and we started Sunday with much more grip. Yours truly was piloting the TR6 when all that traction separated the front wheel from the hub, thank God it was not turn 7 or the straight..with much vigor and stupidity several of the guys forged on to reattach studs and lugnuts.. we were sidelined for several hours but we did get the TR6 back on the track the last hour to catch the checked flag! Later in the afternoon the awards ceremony came around and all the usual trophies were passed out. It came to the final trophy for the event, one that personified the true spirit of crap can racing in the Chump Series and with large eruption of cheers from the team and the crowd, team Foghat was awarded the great honor of the receiving the award. I hollered and even shed a tear, it was one of the greatest moments in my Triumph career. Point is, it's okay to take a few steps back every once in a while, if it makes you happy and keeps the true things in life relevant, like racing Triumphs! Bobby Whitehead _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 24 06:35:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F4640440 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 06:35:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mx07-00153e01.pphosted.com (mx07-00153e01.pphosted.com [62.209.51.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3802D4032C for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 06:34:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0042445 [127.0.0.1]) by mx07-00153e01.pphosted.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r5OCWBBj012155; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 14:33:05 +0200 Received: from chis0225.am.amersports.int ([198.184.220.8]) by mx07-00153e01.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 1d4e6huh3b-1 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 24 Jun 2013 14:33:05 +0200 Received: from chis0225.am.amersports.int ([10.4.34.225]) by chis0225.am.amersports.int ([10.4.34.225]) with mapi; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 07:33:03 -0500 From: "Reed, John" To: Bobby Whitehead , "'Friends of Triumph'" Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 07:33:03 -0500 Thread-Topic: [Fot] Triumphs are still relevant, even today Thread-Index: Ac5w1U2uvc+0uFCXSpuKQrfJWzKC0QAAaqKe Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en acceptlanguage: en-US engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-06-24_02:2013-06-24,2013-06-24,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumphs are still relevant, even today Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wow that's awesome. Congrats On 6/24/13 7:20 AM, "Bobby Whitehead" wrote: With the dawn of the new age and the alignment of the new world order taking shape, occasionally on must take a few steps back to be right with the world. This past weekend is one such event when the Chump Series came to the well used Texas World Speedway in College Station Texas. Six fearless champions came to show to the world, once again, that the Triumph marque was still relevant and worthy. Team FOGHAT (five old guys have a Triumph) ... (yes we can't count either) proudly campaigned a true crap can car.. in theory there are supposed to be $500 cars that enter the event... now I don't know about you but I've looked far and wide for a $500 Miata (or Myyaatah according to our Canadian driver) and I've never found one,,, much less a BMW or a SHO.. but our car I happen to know was a former Lemons car owned by Bob Kramer that was a $200 car.. 1970 TR6 bone stock and not worthy of much..but it was complete. We campaigned all day Saturday from start to checker flag EIGHT hours in 95 degree heat. A big thanks to the CoolShirt company indeed. We had tires that were very predictable, they would not hold a corner at all. That night the tires were switched out for sticky tires and we started Sunday with much more grip. Yours truly was piloting the TR6 when all that traction separated the front wheel from the hub, thank God it was not turn 7 or the straight..with much vigor and stupidity several of the guys forged on to reattach studs and lugnuts.. we were sidelined for several hours but we did get the TR6 back on the track the last hour to catch the checked flag! Later in the afternoon the awards ceremony came around and all the usual trophies were passed out. It came to the final trophy for the event, one that personified the true spirit of crap can racing in the Chump Series and with large eruption of cheers from the team and the crowd, team Foghat was awarded the great honor of the receiving the award. I hollered and even shed a tear, it was one of the greatest moments in my Triumph career. Point is, it's okay to take a few steps back every once in a while, if it makes you happy and keeps the true things in life relevant, like racing Triumphs! Bobby Whitehead _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john.reed@wilson.com John Reed Global Staff Photographer Creative Services [cid:3454903983_95886804] Wilson Sporting Goods Co. 8750 W. Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago IL 60631: USA T: 1 773.714.6895 F: 1 773.714.4585 John.Reed@wilson.com http://www.wilson.com http://www.amersports.com This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image.png] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 24 06:43:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8964044A for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 06:43:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc4-s2.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s2.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A0F4032C for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 06:43:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT401-EAS371 ([65.55.90.200]) by snt0-omc4-s2.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 24 Jun 2013 05:41:55 -0700 References: From: Vince G Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 08:41:51 -0400 To: "Reed, John" FILETIME=[35942070:01CE70D8] Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumphs are still relevant, even today Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Very cool. Way to go! Sent from my iPhone On 2013-06-24, at 8:33 AM, "Reed, John" wrote: > Wow that's awesome. Congrats > > > On 6/24/13 7:20 AM, "Bobby Whitehead" wrote: > > With the dawn of the new age and the alignment of the new world order taking > shape, occasionally on must take a few steps back to be right with the world. > This past weekend is one such event when the Chump Series came to the well > used > Texas World Speedway in College Station Texas. Six fearless champions came to > show to the world, once again, that the Triumph marque was still relevant and > worthy. Team FOGHAT (five old guys have a Triumph) ... (yes we can't count > either) proudly campaigned a true crap can car.. in theory there are supposed > to > be $500 cars that enter the event... now I don't know about you but I've > looked > far and wide for a $500 Miata (or Myyaatah according to our Canadian driver) > and > I've never found one,,, much less a BMW or a SHO.. but our car I happen to > know > was a former Lemons car owned by Bob Kramer that was a $200 car.. 1970 TR6 > bone > stock and not worthy of much..but it was complete. > We campaigned all day Saturday from start to checker flag EIGHT hours in 95 > degree heat. A big thanks to the CoolShirt company indeed. We had tires that > were very predictable, they would not hold a corner at all. That night the > tires > were switched out for sticky tires and we started Sunday with much more grip. > Yours truly was piloting the TR6 when all that traction separated the front > wheel from the hub, thank God it was not turn 7 or the straight..with much > vigor > and stupidity several of the guys forged on to reattach studs and lugnuts.. > we > were sidelined for several hours but we did get the TR6 back on the track the > last hour to catch the checked flag! > Later in the afternoon the awards ceremony came around and all the usual > trophies were passed out. It came to the final trophy for the event, one that > personified the true spirit of crap can racing in the Chump Series and with > large eruption of cheers from the team and the crowd, team Foghat was awarded > the great honor of the receiving the award. I hollered and even shed a tear, > it > was one of the greatest moments in my Triumph career. > > Point is, it's okay to take a few steps back every once in a while, if it > makes > you happy and keeps the true things in life relevant, like racing Triumphs! > > Bobby Whitehead > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john.reed@wilson.com > > > > > John Reed > Global Staff Photographer > Creative Services > > [cid:3454903983_95886804] > > Wilson Sporting Goods Co. > 8750 W. Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago IL 60631: USA > T: 1 773.714.6895 F: 1 773.714.4585 > John.Reed@wilson.com http://www.wilson.com http://www.amersports.com > > > This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are > not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please > notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized > copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly > forbidden. > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image.png] > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 24 07:27:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D2840419 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 07:27:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from col0-omc2-s12.col0.hotmail.com (col0-omc2-s12.col0.hotmail.com [65.55.34.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED3B40042 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 07:26:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from COL125-W8 ([65.55.34.72]) by col0-omc2-s12.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 24 Jun 2013 06:24:37 -0700 From: Joe Henry To: Vince G , "Reed, John" Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 13:24:36 +0000 References: , FILETIME=[2C881710:01CE70DE] Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumphs are still relevant, even today Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net As a fellow TR6 racer on the ChumpCar circuit, I can also say it is not always about finishing at the sharp end of the pack but the victory in just finishing and having fun. Congratulations and well done! We need to figure out a race where both Chump TR6s can compete head to head! Joe Downer RiffRAF Racing TR6 Charlotte, N.C. > From: vangoughv@hotmail.com > Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 08:41:51 -0400 > To: John.Reed@wilson.com > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumphs are still relevant, even today > > Very cool. Way to go! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2013-06-24, at 8:33 AM, "Reed, John" wrote: > > > Wow that's awesome. Congrats > > > > > > On 6/24/13 7:20 AM, "Bobby Whitehead" wrote: > > > > With the dawn of the new age and the alignment of the new world order > taking > > shape, occasionally on must take a few steps back to be right with the > world. > > This past weekend is one such event when the Chump Series came to the well > > used > > Texas World Speedway in College Station Texas. Six fearless champions came > to > > show to the world, once again, that the Triumph marque was still relevant > and > > worthy. Team FOGHAT (five old guys have a Triumph) ... (yes we can't count > > either) proudly campaigned a true crap can car.. in theory there are > supposed > > to > > be $500 cars that enter the event... now I don't know about you but I've > > looked > > far and wide for a $500 Miata (or Myyaatah according to our Canadian > driver) > > and > > I've never found one,,, much less a BMW or a SHO.. but our car I happen to > > know > > was a former Lemons car owned by Bob Kramer that was a $200 car.. 1970 TR6 > > bone > > stock and not worthy of much..but it was complete. > > We campaigned all day Saturday from start to checker flag EIGHT hours in 95 > > degree heat. A big thanks to the CoolShirt company indeed. We had tires > that > > were very predictable, they would not hold a corner at all. That night the > > tires > > were switched out for sticky tires and we started Sunday with much more > grip. > > Yours truly was piloting the TR6 when all that traction separated the front > > wheel from the hub, thank God it was not turn 7 or the straight..with much > > vigor > > and stupidity several of the guys forged on to reattach studs and lugnuts.. > > we > > were sidelined for several hours but we did get the TR6 back on the track > the > > last hour to catch the checked flag! > > Later in the afternoon the awards ceremony came around and all the usual > > trophies were passed out. It came to the final trophy for the event, one > that > > personified the true spirit of crap can racing in the Chump Series and with > > large eruption of cheers from the team and the crowd, team Foghat was > awarded > > the great honor of the receiving the award. I hollered and even shed a > tear, > > it > > was one of the greatest moments in my Triumph career. > > > > Point is, it's okay to take a few steps back every once in a while, if it > > makes > > you happy and keeps the true things in life relevant, like racing Triumphs! > > > > Bobby Whitehead > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john.reed@wilson.com > > > > > > > > > > John Reed > > Global Staff Photographer > > Creative Services > > > > [cid:3454903983_95886804] > > > > Wilson Sporting Goods Co. > > 8750 W. Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago IL 60631: USA > > T: 1 773.714.6895 F: 1 773.714.4585 > > John.Reed@wilson.com http://www.wilson.com http://www.amersports.com > > > > > > This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you > are > > not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please > > notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. 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[69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w12sm30729630yhj.19.2013.06.24.07.25.44 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 24 Jun 2013 07:25:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 09:25:42 -0500 References: <1372076453.47000.YahooMailRC@web182204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> To: Bobby Whitehead Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumphs are still relevant, even today Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Great report, Bobby. I'd hoped to come cheer you on, but grandparenting duties came first... Sounds like a heroic effort! Duncan On Jun 24, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > With the dawn of the new age and the alignment of the new world order taking > shape, occasionally on must take a few steps back to be right with the world. > This past weekend is one such event when the Chump Series came to the well used > Texas World Speedway in College Station Texas. Six fearless champions came to > show to the world, once again, that the Triumph marque was still relevant and > worthy. Team FOGHAT (five old guys have a Triumph) ... Point is, it's okay to take a few steps back every once in a while, if it makes > you happy and keeps the true things in life relevant, like racing Triumphs! > > Bobby Whitehead _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 24 08:45:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753A74042F for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 08:45:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED3A240419 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 08:41:24 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=Fce0aDqHscsRXT8fyFpBUA==:17 a=Uwuz97L-53MA:10 a=YGL1MRz2xfsA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=y-kLkvHZywUA:10 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=gDkT8xhHI5r_jp2LfkgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=Fce0aDqHscsRXT8fyFpBUA==:117 Received: from [166.147.115.169] ([166.147.115.169:55515] helo=[10.215.98.48]) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 7A/6D-15971-42A58C15; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 14:39:33 +0000 References: <1372076453.47000.YahooMailRC@web182204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 10:39:30 -0400 To: Bobby Whitehead Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumphs are still relevant, even today Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Well done guys. The 6 seems to be getting a reputation. Previously it was awarded "the most from the least" award in Lemons. On Jun 24, 2013, at 8:20 AM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > With the dawn of the new age and the alignment of the new world order taking > shape, occasionally on must take a few steps back to be right with the world. > This past weekend is one such event when the Chump Series came to the well used > Texas World Speedway in College Station Texas. Six fearless champions came to > show to the world, once again, that the Triumph marque was still relevant and > worthy. Team FOGHAT (five old guys have a Triumph) ... (yes we can't count > either) proudly campaigned a true crap can car.. in theory there are supposed to > be $500 cars that enter the event... now I don't know about you but I've looked > far and wide for a $500 Miata (or Myyaatah according to our Canadian driver) and > I've never found one,,, much less a BMW or a SHO.. but our car I happen to know > was a former Lemons car owned by Bob Kramer that was a $200 car.. 1970 TR6 bone > stock and not worthy of much..but it was complete. > We campaigned all day Saturday from start to checker flag EIGHT hours in 95 > degree heat. A big thanks to the CoolShirt company indeed. We had tires that > were very predictable, they would not hold a corner at all. That night the tires > were switched out for sticky tires and we started Sunday with much more grip. > Yours truly was piloting the TR6 when all that traction separated the front > wheel from the hub, thank God it was not turn 7 or the straight..with much vigor > and stupidity several of the guys forged on to reattach studs and lugnuts.. we > were sidelined for several hours but we did get the TR6 back on the track the > last hour to catch the checked flag! > Later in the afternoon the awards ceremony came around and all the usual > trophies were passed out. It came to the final trophy for the event, one that > personified the true spirit of crap can racing in the Chump Series and with > large eruption of cheers from the team and the crowd, team Foghat was awarded > the great honor of the receiving the award. I hollered and even shed a tear, it > was one of the greatest moments in my Triumph career. > > Point is, it's okay to take a few steps back every once in a while, if it makes > you happy and keeps the true things in life relevant, like racing Triumphs! > > Bobby Whitehead > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 24 08:46:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C7B4042C for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 08:46:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f171.google.com (mail-ie0-f171.google.com [209.85.223.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C80840423 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 08:45:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f171.google.com with SMTP id qd12so24901739ieb.2 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 07:43:29 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :x-priority:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:cc:from:date :content-type:mime-version:x-gm-message-state; bh=lFehO8QkmFHFvZhukAgCkzT569sMSOA27nAL00tk8U4=; b=V/ZkFdivrqH2fxv9PvBGSuWfj0JfeeV3yWdohyVPwJ9RvsNuBaIimsWu/BS1ZTmQOf 4NrfOjnioK/9uA/XVPWi65+Z2ya/CQ41Cmy9HsJr76Yx8Hz0JLqGdfzKoGFG6LZWemh6 Mv1WOb0gayVXoSi+N0tJTVFTOjQhjFmSTb1NcNyFyTlYlZaDxU8E+22Ez9PEOjLUws/f HRy5Q1wVuZowBFF0eYpqI5mzrNBsgn2+I5OgccOmSXwnvMFAqLHq+WyxrHvn+muPpN31 t+w75FIPPkle84Kwa1e0mNwpmRJG3H5kRzUoZ4TiG9ciH0+dY2rY9s0vY8+rlsXh7KqS 9p8g== Mon, 24 Jun 2013 07:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.187 (bda-74-82-80-176.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id yt6sm361051igb.2.2013.06.24.07.43.27 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 24 Jun 2013 07:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Sensitivity: Normal To: "Vince G" ,fot-bounces@autox.team.net,"Kas Kastner" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 14:43:20 +0000 Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] New book finally Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Vince, Collect every bit of data you can and record even the most banal measurements and details.. I've been studying these things for decades. I still use the red binder workshop manual as a first go to guide almost always to get my start for any maintenance or assembly, Then I dissect my own project or concept and see how it is different and record all the parameters of data. Then I compare my set ups, to (other GT6 race cars) that I know are capable of performance. In my opinion the most critical modifications to a GT6 race car are contained in Kas' simple early yellow booklet. Which is, likely, updated in this new book. Bar none though, the best info you can have is your own tested parameters. That way you can always have a working point, of that particular set-up to go back to. Read all the books. Own all the books. And Look at ALL the GT6's that race. And remember, one of the most important things in racing which holds true to the main task. To finish first, you must first finish. Develop the car to be strong, speed can only be gotten from a solid foundation that can take the punishment. From what I have seen in your build documentary posts elsewhere, you are off to a fine start. Keep up the great work! Don't hesitate to ask any specific questions. I admire your ambitious work thus far, and hope you are still planning on making it to RA for The Kastner Cup; as it looks this will, by far, be your greatest chance to collect All THE Data you need! Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing GT6 race car nut head ------Original Message------ From: Vince G To: Kas Kastner Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] New book finally Sent: Jun 24, 2013 5:43 AM Kas, Is there a particular book that will give me the most advice on the GT6? Thanks Sent from my iPhone On 2013-06-23, at 12:17 PM, "Kas Kastner" wrote: > Just to let folks know, my rewrite of the *Triumph Preparation Handbook new > edition* is now available on my web site *kaskastner.com*. You can get > this as an instant download or an autographed disc. > > Along with that we have also put up a YouTube panel that has the IMSA GTP > NISSAN Prototype racing videos that were made back in the late 80's and > early 90's. > > *Never be beaten by equipment.* > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 24 09:03:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF4C40446 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 09:03:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f178.google.com (mail-ie0-f178.google.com [209.85.223.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DE840446 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 09:02:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f178.google.com with SMTP id u16so24043697iet.23 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 08:00:49 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :x-priority:references:in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to :from:date:content-type:mime-version:x-gm-message-state; bh=BEXUXsKcuJoqbLdFk5fNmTFQAz2BjcKJO0d66GkhNFE=; b=pRtFl651RpQA4LxjJm5q1h6V5oecRRZzyTsXmgYQA5K1ATPA9w1LvWkFmybA1cIfAO MQsJQCKZlutFLVPGXdf6ojmkrQG1VT1o4/3pIpmhwDxSwNgfofd9KUxL6yUDGb4LnCdv FSX+09SUTnibxcyDHOeHCycVNF1Q/3Zstq3uBYIs/0d7n1U25fgEpoHfHQIFsGLLIfIM i36XFsV7bBO76d2pZYsTPj0FDIsljUmbMFaDd9KjQOlgtU3O7Kxne2k6U7NaSfCMr2Jx e+cCYYcsFX9rVw1CucsVFXcxx9e+83tiEU6Vf2E2lIH8i8BD4K09qcYzNkkFRxD/IStC PHXA== ht1mr5715180igb.60.1372086049230; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 08:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.187 (bda-74-82-80-176.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b6sm429100igm.9.2013.06.24.08.00.47 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 24 Jun 2013 08:00:48 -0700 (PDT) References: <1372076453.47000.YahooMailRC@web182204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Sensitivity: Normal To: "Bobby Whitehead" ,fot-bounces@autox.team.net,"FoT Triumph" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 15:00:41 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumphs are still relevant, even today Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bravo! That's fantastic. 5 stars from FGR! Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] Triumphs are still relevant, even today With the dawn of the new age and the alignment of the new world order taking shape, occasionally on must take a few steps back to be right with the world. This past weekend is one such event when the Chump Series came to the well used Texas World Speedway in College Station Texas. Six fearless champions came to show to the world, once again, that the Triumph marque was still relevant and worthy. Team FOGHAT (five old guys have a Triumph) ... (yes we can't count either) proudly campaigned a true crap can car.. in theory there are supposed to be $500 cars that enter the event... now I don't know about you but I've looked far and wide for a $500 Miata (or Myyaatah according to our Canadian driver) and I've never found one,,, much less a BMW or a SHO.. but our car I happen to know was a former Lemons car owned by Bob Kramer that was a $200 car.. 1970 TR6 bone stock and not worthy of much..but it was complete. We campaigned all day Saturday from start to checker flag EIGHT hours in 95 degree heat. A big thanks to the CoolShirt company indeed. We had tires that were very predictable, they would not hold a corner at all. That night the tires were switched out for sticky tires and we started Sunday with much more grip. Yours truly was piloting the TR6 when all that traction separated the front wheel from the hub, thank God it was not turn 7 or the straight..with much vigor and stupidity several of the guys forged on to reattach studs and lugnuts.. we were sidelined for several hours but we did get the TR6 back on the track the last hour to catch the checked flag! Later in the afternoon the awards ceremony came around and all the usual trophies were passed out. It came to the final trophy for the event, one that personified the true spirit of crap can racing in the Chump Series and with large eruption of cheers from the team and the crowd, team Foghat was awarded the great honor of the receiving the award. I hollered and even shed a tear, it was one of the greatest moments in my Triumph career. Point is, it's okay to take a few steps back every once in a while, if it makes you happy and keeps the true things in life relevant, like racing Triumphs! Bobby Whitehead _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 24 11:29:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 870FF40446 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:29:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F169740427 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:29:24 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=/l3UEGI93sHtmAWy1GxDhg==:17 a=kYtJfs7zxC4A:10 a=YGL1MRz2xfsA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=y-kLkvHZywUA:10 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=s082QeJUlZ2YW_aAWS8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=/l3UEGI93sHtmAWy1GxDhg==:117 Received: from [166.137.121.141] ([166.137.121.141:37952] helo=[10.140.222.72]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id B0/BA-06197-58188C15; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 17:27:34 +0000 References: <1372076453.47000.YahooMailRC@web182204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <10AA7285-A0E3-4E95-ACE5-519A215C8AEE@austin.rr.com> From: Bob Kramer Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 12:27:31 -0500 To: Greg And Alison Blake Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumphs are still relevant, even today Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Well done Fog's, and looking good doing it! I suspect that upgraded front hubs and half inch studs are on the short list? We broke a stud at MSR same hub. Do the Falkens still have tread? Bob Kramer Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2013, at 9:39 AM, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: > Well done guys. > The 6 seems to be getting a reputation. Previously it was awarded "the most > from the least" award in Lemons. > > On Jun 24, 2013, at 8:20 AM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > >> With the dawn of the new age and the alignment of the new world order taking >> shape, occasionally on must take a few steps back to be right with the > world. >> This past weekend is one such event when the Chump Series came to the well > used >> Texas World Speedway in College Station Texas. Six fearless champions came > to >> show to the world, once again, that the Triumph marque was still relevant > and >> worthy. Team FOGHAT (five old guys have a Triumph) ... (yes we can't count >> either) proudly campaigned a true crap can car.. in theory there are > supposed to >> be $500 cars that enter the event... now I don't know about you but I've > looked >> far and wide for a $500 Miata (or Myyaatah according to our Canadian driver) > and >> I've never found one,,, much less a BMW or a SHO.. but our car I happen to > know >> was a former Lemons car owned by Bob Kramer that was a $200 car.. 1970 TR6 > bone >> stock and not worthy of much..but it was complete. >> We campaigned all day Saturday from start to checker flag EIGHT hours in 95 >> degree heat. A big thanks to the CoolShirt company indeed. We had tires that >> were very predictable, they would not hold a corner at all. That night the > tires >> were switched out for sticky tires and we started Sunday with much more > grip. >> Yours truly was piloting the TR6 when all that traction separated the front >> wheel from the hub, thank God it was not turn 7 or the straight..with much > vigor >> and stupidity several of the guys forged on to reattach studs and lugnuts.. > we >> were sidelined for several hours but we did get the TR6 back on the track > the >> last hour to catch the checked flag! >> Later in the afternoon the awards ceremony came around and all the usual >> trophies were passed out. It came to the final trophy for the event, one > that >> personified the true spirit of crap can racing in the Chump Series and with >> large eruption of cheers from the team and the crowd, team Foghat was > awarded >> the great honor of the receiving the award. I hollered and even shed a tear, > it >> was one of the greatest moments in my Triumph career. >> >> Point is, it's okay to take a few steps back every once in a while, if it > makes >> you happy and keeps the true things in life relevant, like racing Triumphs! >> >> Bobby Whitehead >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 24 11:37:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6804043C for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:37:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bosmailout20.eigbox.net (bosmailout20.eigbox.net [66.96.189.20]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C2A4032C for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:37:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bosmailscan08.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.8]) by bosmailout20.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1UrAg9-00015q-3e for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 13:35:49 -0400 Received: from bosimpout04.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.4]) by bosmailscan08.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1UrAg9-0000zh-CJ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 13:35:49 -0400 Received: from bosauthsmtp09.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.9]) by bosimpout04.eigbox.net with NO UCE id sHbp1l0030BkY8i01HbpKN; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 13:35:49 -0400 a=dq1abYo1l9notr5fmXZTxA==:17 a=3-MZCWuAnnEA:10 a=YGL1MRz2xfsA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=y-kLkvHZywUA:10 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=vWuBf5KWrl9GNOr27ZQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=4fjxjAC3nPmqMSTl:21 a=VM-pWq31jf9h6zDP:21 a=+tcVrJynzLVJ9yqDAOBWjQ==:117 Received: from ppp-70-253-85-135.dsl.austtx.swbell.net ([70.253.85.135] helo=zap6) by bosauthsmtp09.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1UrAg8-0008MT-Se; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 13:35:49 -0400 From: "Robert MacKenzie" To: "'Bobby Whitehead'" , "'FoT Triumph'" References: <1372076453.47000.YahooMailRC@web182204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 12:35:44 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac5w1U1yGo5RlKCTSjmuY8tdw/S1uwAKaaVQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumphs are still relevant, even today Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Winning "The Spirit of Chump" was a great achievement but we could not have accomplished it without the true team effort that got us there. Thanks have to go out to all the drivers but special mention to Betina & Dave Foreman for putting it all together. The car ran perfectly on Saturday. Never dropped any oil, overheated or as much as mis-fired. We never opened the hood. When we did it was only down a quart and a half on oil. The handing was very predictable; it just did not want to turn or stop. I spun twice as most of the others did. Sunday it was another car on the new Toyos. We could go much faster into and through the turns; and this was out downfall as it turns out. When I got into the car (driver #3) we realized the battery had gone dead and it would not crank. After a push-start I did a slow lap and the car seemed fine. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MLpz2GAkKWk] When I got out 45 min later I noticed that a front left wheel nut was missing. Closer inspection showed that the stud had sheared off flush at the hub. After a quick discussion we let Bobby go "to see what would happen". Two laps later the wheel fell off. That was my call and it was the wrong one. Again: Bobby I am sorry. After our epic failure we had an epic fix and made the last hour of the race to a standing ovation from the other teams. It was great. On that note: does anybody have a part number for 1/2 diameter, long style wheel studs for the TR6? Oh and Bobby...it is pronounced My-Atta..... Robert MacKenzie -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bobby Whitehead Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 7:21 AM To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] Triumphs are still relevant, even today With the dawn of the new age and the alignment of the new world order taking shape, occasionally on must take a few steps back to be right with the world. This past weekend is one such event when the Chump Series came to the well used Texas World Speedway in College Station Texas. Six fearless champions came to show to the world, once again, that the Triumph marque was still relevant and worthy. Team FOGHAT (five old guys have a Triumph) ... (yes we can't count either) proudly campaigned a true crap can car.. in theory there are supposed to be $500 cars that enter the event... now I don't know about you but I've looked far and wide for a $500 Miata (or Myyaatah according to our Canadian driver) and I've never found one,,, much less a BMW or a SHO.. but our car I happen to know was a former Lemons car owned by Bob Kramer that was a $200 car.. 1970 TR6 bone stock and not worthy of much..but it was complete. We campaigned all day Saturday from start to checker flag EIGHT hours in 95 degree heat. A big thanks to the CoolShirt company indeed. We had tires that were very predictable, they would not hold a corner at all. That night the tires were switched out for sticky tires and we started Sunday with much more grip. Yours truly was piloting the TR6 when all that traction separated the front wheel from the hub, thank God it was not turn 7 or the straight..with much vigor and stupidity several of the guys forged on to reattach studs and lugnuts.. we were sidelined for several hours but we did get the TR6 back on the track the last hour to catch the checked flag! Later in the afternoon the awards ceremony came around and all the usual trophies were passed out. It came to the final trophy for the event, one that personified the true spirit of crap can racing in the Chump Series and with large eruption of cheers from the team and the crowd, team Foghat was awarded the great honor of the receiving the award. I hollered and even shed a tear, it was one of the greatest moments in my Triumph career. Point is, it's okay to take a few steps back every once in a while, if it makes you happy and keeps the true things in life relevant, like racing Triumphs! Bobby Whitehead _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/list@mackenzie.aero _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 24 15:10:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B03440453 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 15:10:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.199]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41A640427 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 15:10:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from wm3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (wm3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.10.9]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0MOX00C7R1DUYSS0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for FOT@autox.team.net; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 17:08:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [67.83.138.143] by webtop.webmail.optimum.net with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 17:08:18 -0400 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 17:08:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Redmond To: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Subject: [Fot] One used Liner Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fot, Does anyone have one piston liner that they would part with? One of mine is chipped. It will need to be bored out. Thanks Todd _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 24 16:29:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED5A040446 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:29:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8004740434 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 12:00:45 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=thU5QNwBOGS35845I5Rc9w==:17 a=02x9Fjxtek4A:10 a=YGL1MRz2xfsA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=y-kLkvHZywUA:10 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=b4KrJKo_AAAA:8 a=LiR8iKcfAAAA:8 a=P4Y6nWPfktIPse7hb0EA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=v2A8r-EtVPoSqWBo:21 a=tDEzpfDtESGNSSjO:21 a=thU5QNwBOGS35845I5Rc9w==:117 Received: from [206.16.105.224] ([206.16.105.224:47265] helo=[192.38.12.78]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 91/17-06197-ED888C15; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 17:58:55 +0000 References: <1372076453.47000.YahooMailRC@web182204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <003501ce7101$42e912c0$c8bb3840$@aero> From: Bob Kramer Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 12:58:54 -0500 To: Robert MacKenzie Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumphs are still relevant, even today Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Since the holes will have to be drilled to take the bigger studs the PN won't matter. Drill to whatever knurl size is recommended. I know I said 1/2", but Moroso 7/16" are just fine. I think we put through bolts in the hubs from the backside to support the hub flange already, if not it needs to be done. Bob Kramer Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:35 PM, "Robert MacKenzie" wrote: > Winning "The Spirit of Chump" was a great achievement but we could not have > accomplished it without the true team effort that got us there. Thanks > have to go out to all the drivers but special mention to Betina & Dave > Foreman for putting it all together. > > The car ran perfectly on Saturday. Never dropped any oil, overheated or as > much as mis-fired. We never opened the hood. When we did it was only down > a quart and a half on oil. > > The handing was very predictable; it just did not want to turn or stop. I > spun twice as most of the others did. > > Sunday it was another car on the new Toyos. We could go much faster into > and through the turns; and this was out downfall as it turns out. > > When I got into the car (driver #3) we realized the battery had gone dead > and it would not crank. After a push-start I did a slow lap and the car > seemed fine. > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MLpz2GAkKWk] > When I got out 45 min later I noticed that a front left wheel nut was > missing. Closer inspection showed that the stud had sheared off flush at the > hub. After a quick discussion we let Bobby go "to see what would happen". > Two laps later the wheel fell off. > That was my call and it was the wrong one. Again: Bobby I am sorry. > > After our epic failure we had an epic fix and made the last hour of the race > to a standing ovation from the other teams. It was great. > > On that note: does anybody have a part number for 1/2 diameter, long style > wheel studs for the TR6? > > Oh and Bobby...it is pronounced My-Atta..... > > Robert MacKenzie > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Bobby Whitehead > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 7:21 AM > To: FoT Triumph > Subject: [Fot] Triumphs are still relevant, even today > > With the dawn of the new age and the alignment of the new world order taking > shape, occasionally on must take a few steps back to be right with the > world. > This past weekend is one such event when the Chump Series came to the well > used Texas World Speedway in College Station Texas. Six fearless champions > came to show to the world, once again, that the Triumph marque was still > relevant and worthy. Team FOGHAT (five old guys have a Triumph) ... (yes we > can't count > either) proudly campaigned a true crap can car.. in theory there are > supposed to be $500 cars that enter the event... now I don't know about you > but I've looked far and wide for a $500 Miata (or Myyaatah according to our > Canadian driver) and I've never found one,,, much less a BMW or a SHO.. but > our car I happen to know was a former Lemons car owned by Bob Kramer that > was a $200 car.. 1970 TR6 bone stock and not worthy of much..but it was > complete. > We campaigned all day Saturday from start to checker flag EIGHT hours in 95 > degree heat. A big thanks to the CoolShirt company indeed. We had tires that > were very predictable, they would not hold a corner at all. That night the > tires were switched out for sticky tires and we started Sunday with much > more grip. > Yours truly was piloting the TR6 when all that traction separated the front > wheel from the hub, thank God it was not turn 7 or the straight..with much > vigor and stupidity several of the guys forged on to reattach studs and > lugnuts.. we were sidelined for several hours but we did get the TR6 back on > the track the last hour to catch the checked flag! > Later in the afternoon the awards ceremony came around and all the usual > trophies were passed out. It came to the final trophy for the event, one > that personified the true spirit of crap can racing in the Chump Series and > with large eruption of cheers from the team and the crowd, team Foghat was > awarded the great honor of the receiving the award. I hollered and even shed > a tear, it was one of the greatest moments in my Triumph career. > > Point is, it's okay to take a few steps back every once in a while, if it > makes you happy and keeps the true things in life relevant, like racing > Triumphs! > > Bobby Whitehead > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/list@mackenzie.aero > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 24 16:30:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C5340523 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:30:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 106A740075 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 12:40:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id sF6J1l0060vp7WLA2JeT1e; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 18:38:27 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id sJeR1l00f4L5TyG8RJeSkx; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 18:38:27 +0000 From: Bud R To: Robert MacKenzie Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 12:38:25 -0600 References: <1372076453.47000.YahooMailRC@web182204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <003501ce7101$42e912c0$c8bb3840$@aero> s=q20121106; t=1372099107; bh=Lz1bTcNwxlIhEVis9jcu1P/3f5RVoQCA9IAyTSoWFm8=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=nJ+nvfikhD33S9nnBV7zBWZt52wbe6hGcnE3fBqdmGk0n9BUk0jz9ctC1OUL2TddD 4CfJWG0qbk5ToYmRKATjzRm6U6uFTGtG7Q2hRlQJtm3GHqH4S5OQFdewJjEh7Zt6eh Dbg3pQ+zKFcDqZVAPeaimmeNr21uwNEX3krnufSepkOhShyB+5mVxLBoUq1UM4F6yw H0Ol3nUxY/5+I2CnDxCzgxFJSor/r/wZKCBilK9GpFoVC1z1gZMr/NxacvZGYA5w9w tLdHxIhisFgrnORzchKauCQfqFms/2ycq5TQvUgf/Zi7751xRC9iIy3m/35Yw2+21N wb9cUelLdm9qQ== Cc: 'FoT Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumphs are still relevant, even today Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net My TR6 studs are 7/16" not 1/2". Moroso 461601 is the number on my receipt for 7/16" - 20 wheel studs. They are 2 7/8" long. I used them on my Spit hub and the hub had to be drilled just a bit to meet the required hole dimensions but you may not need to do that on a TR6 hub. And you'll probably need open ended lug nuts for these studs, which some tech inspectors like to see anyhow. See: http://www.moroso.com/catalog/categorydisplay.asp?catcode=25107 Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Jun 24, 2013, at 11:35 AM, Robert MacKenzie wrote: > Winning "The Spirit of Chump" was a great achievement but we could > not have > accomplished it without the true team effort that got us there. > Thanks > have to go out to all the drivers but special mention to Betina & > Dave > Foreman for putting it all together. > > The car ran perfectly on Saturday. Never dropped any oil, > overheated or as > much as mis-fired. We never opened the hood. When we did it was > only down > a quart and a half on oil. > > The handing was very predictable; it just did not want to turn or > stop. I > spun twice as most of the others did. > > Sunday it was another car on the new Toyos. We could go much > faster into > and through the turns; and this was out downfall as it turns out. > > When I got into the car (driver #3) we realized the battery had gone > dead > and it would not crank. After a push-start I did a slow lap and the > car > seemed fine. > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MLpz2GAkKWk] > When I got out 45 min later I noticed that a front left wheel nut was > missing. Closer inspection showed that the stud had sheared off > flush at the > hub. After a quick discussion we let Bobby go "to see what would > happen". > Two laps later the wheel fell off. > That was my call and it was the wrong one. Again: Bobby I am sorry. > > After our epic failure we had an epic fix and made the last hour of > the race > to a standing ovation from the other teams. It was great. > > On that note: does anybody have a part number for 1/2 diameter, long > style > wheel studs for the TR6? > > Oh and Bobby...it is pronounced My-Atta..... > > Robert MacKenzie > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Bobby Whitehead > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 7:21 AM > To: FoT Triumph > Subject: [Fot] Triumphs are still relevant, even today > > With the dawn of the new age and the alignment of the new world > order taking > shape, occasionally on must take a few steps back to be right with the > world. > This past weekend is one such event when the Chump Series came to > the well > used Texas World Speedway in College Station Texas. Six fearless > champions > came to show to the world, once again, that the Triumph marque was > still > relevant and worthy. Team FOGHAT (five old guys have a Triumph) ... > (yes we > can't count > either) proudly campaigned a true crap can car.. in theory there are > supposed to be $500 cars that enter the event... now I don't know > about you > but I've looked far and wide for a $500 Miata (or Myyaatah according > to our > Canadian driver) and I've never found one,,, much less a BMW or a > SHO.. but > our car I happen to know was a former Lemons car owned by Bob Kramer > that > was a $200 car.. 1970 TR6 bone stock and not worthy of much..but it > was > complete. > We campaigned all day Saturday from start to checker flag EIGHT > hours in 95 > degree heat. A big thanks to the CoolShirt company indeed. We had > tires that > were very predictable, they would not hold a corner at all. That > night the > tires were switched out for sticky tires and we started Sunday with > much > more grip. > Yours truly was piloting the TR6 when all that traction separated > the front > wheel from the hub, thank God it was not turn 7 or the > straight..with much > vigor and stupidity several of the guys forged on to reattach studs > and > lugnuts.. we were sidelined for several hours but we did get the TR6 > back on > the track the last hour to catch the checked flag! > Later in the afternoon the awards ceremony came around and all the > usual > trophies were passed out. It came to the final trophy for the event, > one > that personified the true spirit of crap can racing in the Chump > Series and > with large eruption of cheers from the team and the crowd, team > Foghat was > awarded the great honor of the receiving the award. I hollered and > even shed > a tear, it was one of the greatest moments in my Triumph career. > > Point is, it's okay to take a few steps back every once in a while, > if it > makes you happy and keeps the true things in life relevant, like > racing > Triumphs! > > Bobby Whitehead > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/list@mackenzie.aero > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 24 16:30:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 166914277A for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:30:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF1640427 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 15:05:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from AR5J3QR6XV (cpe-70-113-116-224.austin.res.rr.com [70.113.116.224]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LjHGB-1UHcaM3SXv-00dDxx; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 17:03:20 -0400 From: "FoodDude" To: "'Joe Henry'" , "'Vince G'" , "'Reed, John'" References: , Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:03:24 -0500 Thread-Index: AQHRfJucHBYlO48ZbEAUubroNC5rYAFID37IA0LG0UaZGux1sA== Content-Language: en-us medHxksBEHtBaq3WdN8CJxs9FG6mhxmDA/puzACRESC+HjTYjK aFPaUumsmVGJOXDIDXTUTxeZZ2wdkzOOZcZk/5fU1vUXCderDX S0myyc7wLzfNYIN+Oiudyd0QJMcLw9eNi8RIXKHYhDYlIURvbB 7zyEUxZOmShqtDqSsZvkeRLAalbyzM1s4TZbRAHz91DGB4BBoT kKj5XQZNQ6Sl2vZ30/HpBU2B8e5/MWliGZ0D2Kr+orA/hVAV+j h5nvoZWvZP94/az46MK4vw+vKJwaMOKkLR8gvH+h6MMHcI1BuN In8HPf+AoaIXqrs1I8UfpOeqQ2M6KXVfvLf8a7iiU Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumphs are still relevant, even today Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We are encouraging them to do one in NOLA, they'd love to see 2 6's too! -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Henry Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 8:25 AM To: Vince G; Reed, John Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumphs are still relevant, even today As a fellow TR6 racer on the ChumpCar circuit, I can also say it is not always about finishing at the sharp end of the pack but the victory in just finishing and having fun. Congratulations and well done! We need to figure out a race where both Chump TR6s can compete head to head! Joe Downer RiffRAF Racing TR6 Charlotte, N.C. > From: vangoughv@hotmail.com > Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 08:41:51 -0400 > To: John.Reed@wilson.com > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumphs are still relevant, even today > > Very cool. Way to go! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2013-06-24, at 8:33 AM, "Reed, John" wrote: > > > Wow that's awesome. Congrats > > > > > > On 6/24/13 7:20 AM, "Bobby Whitehead" wrote: > > > > With the dawn of the new age and the alignment of the new world > > order > taking > > shape, occasionally on must take a few steps back to be right with > > the > world. > > This past weekend is one such event when the Chump Series came to > > the well > > used > > Texas World Speedway in College Station Texas. Six fearless > > champions came > to > > show to the world, once again, that the Triumph marque was still > > relevant > and > > worthy. Team FOGHAT (five old guys have a Triumph) ... (yes we can't count > > either) proudly campaigned a true crap can car.. in theory there are > supposed > > to > > be $500 cars that enter the event... now I don't know about you but > > I've looked far and wide for a $500 Miata (or Myyaatah according to > > our Canadian > driver) > > and > > I've never found one,,, much less a BMW or a SHO.. but our car I > > happen to > > know > > was a former Lemons car owned by Bob Kramer that was a $200 car.. > > 1970 TR6 > > bone > > stock and not worthy of much..but it was complete. > > We campaigned all day Saturday from start to checker flag EIGHT > > hours in 95 > > degree heat. A big thanks to the CoolShirt company indeed. We had > > tires > that > > were very predictable, they would not hold a corner at all. That > > night the > > tires > > were switched out for sticky tires and we started Sunday with much > > more > grip. > > Yours truly was piloting the TR6 when all that traction separated > > the front > > wheel from the hub, thank God it was not turn 7 or the > > straight..with much > > vigor > > and stupidity several of the guys forged on to reattach studs and lugnuts.. > > we > > were sidelined for several hours but we did get the TR6 back on the > > track > the > > last hour to catch the checked flag! > > Later in the afternoon the awards ceremony came around and all the > > usual trophies were passed out. It came to the final trophy for the > > event, one > that > > personified the true spirit of crap can racing in the Chump Series > > and with > > large eruption of cheers from the team and the crowd, team Foghat > > was > awarded > > the great honor of the receiving the award. I hollered and even shed > > a > tear, > > it > > was one of the greatest moments in my Triumph career. > > > > Point is, it's okay to take a few steps back every once in a while, > > if it makes you happy and keeps the true things in life relevant, > > like racing Triumphs! > > > > Bobby Whitehead > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john.reed@wilson.com > > > > > > > > > > John Reed > > Global Staff Photographer > > Creative Services > > > > [cid:3454903983_95886804] > > > > Wilson Sporting Goods Co. > > 8750 W. Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago IL 60631: USA > > T: 1 773.714.6895 F: 1 773.714.4585 > > John.Reed@wilson.com http://www.wilson.com > > http://www.amersports.com > > > > > > This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. > > If you > are > > not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) > > please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3345 / Virus Database: 3199/6429 - Release Date: 06/21/13 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 24 17:25:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5812840510 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 17:25:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s33.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s33.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.108]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7348540427; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 17:23:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT403-EAS187 ([65.55.90.72]) by snt0-omc2-s33.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:21:26 -0700 References: <1394860839-1372084999-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1107079399-@b14.c3.bise6.blackberry> From: Vince G Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 19:21:22 -0400 To: "jason@multivintage.com" FILETIME=[8C99A9E0:01CE7131] Cc: "fot-bounces@autox.team.net" , fot Subject: Re: [Fot] New book finally Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Jason for your good advice and encouraging words. I still plan to make Kastner Cup along with a pack of other Canucks :). See you in September! Sent from my iPhone On 2013-06-24, at 10:43 AM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > Vince, > Collect every bit of data you can and record even the most banal measurements and details.. I've been studying these things for decades. I still use the red binder workshop manual as a first go to guide almost always to get my start for any maintenance or assembly, Then I dissect my own project or concept and see how it is different and record all the parameters of data. Then I compare my set ups, to (other GT6 race cars) that I know are capable of performance. In my opinion the most critical modifications to a GT6 race car are contained in Kas' simple early yellow booklet. Which is, likely, updated in this new book. > > Bar none though, the best info you can have is your own tested parameters. That way you can always have a working point, of that particular set-up to go back to. > > Read all the books. Own all the books. And Look at ALL the GT6's that race. And remember, one of the most important things in racing which holds true to the main task. To finish first, you must first finish. Develop the car to be strong, speed can only be gotten from a solid foundation that can take the punishment. From what I have seen in your build documentary posts elsewhere, you are off to a fine start. Keep up the great work! Don't hesitate to ask any specific questions. > I admire your ambitious work thus far, and hope you are still planning on making it to RA for The Kastner Cup; as it looks this will, by far, be your greatest chance to collect All THE Data you need! > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > GT6 race car nut head > > ------Original Message------ > From: Vince G > Sender: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > To: Kas Kastner > Cc: fot > Subject: Re: [Fot] New book finally > Sent: Jun 24, 2013 5:43 AM > > Kas, > > Is there a particular book that will give me the most advice on the GT6? > > Thanks > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2013-06-23, at 12:17 PM, "Kas Kastner" wrote: > >> Just to let folks know, my rewrite of the *Triumph Preparation Handbook new >> edition* is now available on my web site *kaskastner.com*. You can get >> this as an instant download or an autographed disc. >> >> Along with that we have also put up a YouTube panel that has the IMSA GTP >> NISSAN Prototype racing videos that were made back in the late 80's and >> early 90's. >> >> *Never be beaten by equipment.* >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com > > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 25 05:40:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4487840078 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 05:40:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.241]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 020AB40078 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 05:40:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.49] by nm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2013 11:38:10 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.194] by tm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2013 11:38:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1052.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2013 11:38:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 31800 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Jun 2013 11:38:10 -0000 s=s1024; t=1372160290; bh=xVIWjOqNNOmi0lZL67c4oQl92ccEJ7L6Sk2olOLT9ds=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OpMIlBA5Sl+fdgaQuTA8nleYpmlFLEghoY5ZaK7rMfR2HguGFo54m0qpoPQ6CgZADmDWHmR1IbmNd44zuak2HHHwrzumuyKh38X2R62tDnLo55uWuCa1xdrXq8sOPjcKOKH/T936ljlkbWHAORtmLU4ukinLimf8LBoBc2WZIbA= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RAnU3+XIn8ObXnsK7rpWNpSXrlvlH2o3nxJKyZFRQm0CxhVvFBT3PRk/SxZwaATJd4MjI9cEo++4RXwFE4HJRiQeEDT2CsI93IAunMumNIDixuQv4FGnZQgmUZ7qVNUD6T+T1zcUdL8MznyUzXt43t2ptbzhqq7PZzI20vQ/TBQ=; 65WXbCfAsRUj1p4rgJjfI Received: from [173.172.100.241] by web125003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 04:38:10 PDT V2VsbCBkb25lIEZPR0hBVFMKCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogRnJvbTogQm9iYnkgV2hpdGVoZWFkIDxpZ29mYXN0ZXJAYXR0Lm5ldD4KVG86IEZvVCBUcml1bXBoIDxmb3RAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQ.IApTZW50OiBNb25kYXksIEp1bmUgMjQsIDIwMTMgNzoyMCBBTQpTdWJqZWN0OiBbRm90XSBUcml1bXBocyBhcmUgc3RpbGwgcmVsZXZhbnQsIGV2ZW4gdG9kYXkKIAoKV2l0aCB0aGUgZGF3biBvZiB0aGUgbmV3IGFnZSBhbmQgdGhlIGFsaWdubWVudCBvZiB0aGUgbmV3IHdvcmwBMAEBAQE- References: <1372076453.47000.YahooMailRC@web182204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 04:38:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Blake To: Bobby Whitehead , FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumphs are still relevant, even today Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Well done FOGHATS ________________________________ From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 7:20 AM Subject: [Fot] Triumphs are still relevant, even today With the dawn of the new age and the alignment of the new world order taking shape, occasionally on must take a few steps back to be right with the world. This past weekend is one such event when the Chump Series came to the well used Texas World Speedway in College Station Texas. Six fearless champions came to show to the world, once again, that the Triumph marque was still relevant and worthy. Team FOGHAT (five old guys have a Triumph) ... (yes we can't count either) proudly campaigned a true crap can car.. in theory there are supposed to be $500 cars that enter the event... now I don't know about you but I've looked far and wide for a $500 Miata (or Myyaatah according to our Canadian driver) and I've never found one,,, much less a BMW or a SHO.. but our car I happen to know was a former Lemons car owned by Bob Kramer that was a $200 car.. 1970 TR6 bone stock and not worthy of much..but it was complete. We campaigned all day Saturday from start to checker flag EIGHT hours in 95 degree heat. A big thanks to the CoolShirt company indeed. We had tires that were very predictable, they would not hold a corner at all. That night the tires were switched out for sticky tires and we started Sunday with much more grip. Yours truly was piloting the TR6 when all that traction separated the front wheel from the hub, thank God it was not turn 7 or the straight..with much vigor and stupidity several of the guys forged on to reattach studs and lugnuts.. we were sidelined for several hours but we did get the TR6 back on the track the last hour to catch the checked flag! Later in the afternoon the awards ceremony came around and all the usual trophies were passed out. It came to the final trophy for the event, one that personified the true spirit of crap can racing in the Chump Series and with large eruption of cheers from the team and the crowd, team Foghat was awarded the great honor of the receiving the award. I hollered and even shed a tear, it was one of the greatest moments in my Triumph career. Point is, it's okay to take a few steps back every once in a while, if it makes you happy and keeps the true things in life relevant, like racing Triumphs! Bobby Whitehead _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 25 10:17:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247FE40538 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:17:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841D0403D7 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:17:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vwm15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (vwm15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.10.45]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0MOY0084LIIJP9G0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for FOT@autox.team.net; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 12:15:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [67.83.138.143] by webtop.webmail.optimum.net with HTTP; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 12:15:55 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 12:15:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Redmond To: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Subject: [Fot] Piston Liner Set Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FoT, I have a change of plans. I don't need the single liner. Seems the other liners aren't salvageable. I've decided to buy a piston liner set, 89mm. (Go big or go home!) Any recommendations on supplier, brand? Who's got the best price? Thank you Todd Redmond _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 25 11:23:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635CA4053D for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 11:23:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm16.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm16.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E09C40444 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 11:23:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.103] by nm16.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2013 17:21:32 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.82] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2013 17:21:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2013 17:21:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 70033 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Jun 2013 17:21:32 -0000 s=s1024; t=1372180891; bh=UDEh04VQ0bJeegH0/VV1ucmLFDJ+W08XXM+ZOVio/es=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rC+7eBydqfex3h9xQbuB3U4vRZSmn6VhEch5pfzJ0Qk0Mm4zn0QnUjeyLD0X7yMmfroJ+TxV7bkj8DhQL2kOxzpKmvlzZu03/qNhulpSD4ErDvTGrRqHOfALoYMdervt9HaGwnCqq3SBWWkw/+XWElaZ6wRf42QGkFZ3YazE3JQ= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JKa28yO7fwoFFAzKv71rP8HcEF7/Mon+mA+RQlSE09H93wawQfGGe6gx1WOMYFlS0rHsKeEHaa3km3JrW3zxhj2LQpy7oA6CX+kitXH64t2V+WQLt0oEfHQ7sH5yvn9q0IfvwwWALL5IQ8tLUvw4v/w+p+FTRB8ST3Eh+WV2e0w=; 9k8pkNaETrww2HyiG2sFAkicywOB9VCv1iUKbBUiKyPgp39hf5W2ZkYi_Bog GVvxtp5GKLdW2hz4pMdphRr2JQ7gO3ZCT3zy4_1.b3iFrRe4gkrSD_qbbCMU ejek6wjyCDRaNKLal4d93MOr2WoPDjH.flZcA2kYjZpPLOJOaZaRU2bzdFir wzJ6dIm0WhCABbLiX7mqOpAZePoEXLq371nEnn9uV2dSibJdMP7mIyQ9Y8NR XwTL27g4xpWGuGsxfIqh65kLi.MZj_oeS1ZaN7RX8JROMIdHqs8ipXFz9_q5 TNJsDkF78rIcJWZp_1z0BFXvXTggbnsqOa5IiGgTJR4uYEAAwQs5vm.1Un0y lOZAHmD4g583nlgTjfr9FCKzKwWBqfUKFn3avm.kloPCXJjc7bM4qC50grwJ PnyHQowvBI9uAo0PNJiKxSDLzRKXod38Psfb4hLHFoGLHLR_d9Qk- Received: from [99.60.75.95] by web184805.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:21:31 PDT SGkgQm9iLApJIGRvIGhhdmUgY2FtYmVyIGFkanVzdG1lbnQgb24gdGhlIHJlYXIgYW5kIHRoYXQgaXMgd2hhdCBJIHRob3VnaHQgSSBtaWdodCBhZGp1c3QgZm9yIGEgaGlsbGNsaW1iwqB3aGVyZSBtb3JlIHdlaWdodCBpcyBvbiB0aGUgcmVhci7CoCBJIGhhdmUgc3RpZmZlciBzcHJpbmdzIChub3JtYWwgaGVpZ2h0KSBhbGwgdGhlIHdheSBhcm91bmQsIHJlYXIgc3dheSBiYXIsIEtvbmkgc2hvY2tzIG9uIHJlYXIgKHRpZWQgaW50byB0aGUgcm9sbCBjYWdlKSwgYW5kIGN1cnJlbnRseSB6ZXJvIGRlZ3JlZXMBMAEBAQE- References: <1371689063.8714.YahooMailNeo@web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:21:31 -0700 (PDT) From: sherry robyn To: "Robert M. Lang" Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Do hillclimb conditions increase or decrease TR6 squat? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Bob, I do have camber adjustment on the rear and that is what I thought I might adjust for a hillclimb where more weight is on the rear. I have stiffer springs (normal height) all the way around, rear sway bar, Koni shocks on rear (tied into the roll cage), and currently zero degrees rear camber. I just wondered if I should set the rear camber for something like one degree positive for a hillclimb. Jim ________________________________ From: Robert M. Lang To: sherry robyn Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Do hillclimb conditions increase or decrease TR6 squat? Hi, I doubt that a hillclimb would add more squat on acceleration. The squat on the TR6 is more or less a feature. You cannot dial it out with just springs. Well, you can (by running stupidly stiff springs), but then the car won't handle. The best thing you can do is either completely replace the suspension with a better design, like a Miata rear or maybe a BMW 3-series (or even TVR 2500 / Jag) OR run a better shock setup that allows you to control the weight transfer... Or you can live with the squat. To that end, you SHOULD pay attention to whether you're hitting the bump stops or not. If so, you def. need either stiffer springs / bars or you need to learn to NOT "throw" the car around. regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 25 12:46:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3343C4051F for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 12:46:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm21-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm21-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.151]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FEA64009A for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:47:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.101.131] by nm21.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jun 2013 22:45:14 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.116] by tm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jun 2013 22:45:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp225.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jun 2013 22:45:14 -0000 s=s1024; t=1372113914; bh=yxMACIXKkWLY/3zTxKkd9nZzK8m/Zx6TGW3D+VMlcAQ=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Subject:References:From:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:Cc:To:X-Mailer; b=F4Lwhah+yW8tB8AwCdRltemSXqjOy2mUP1K0joPiisfixJz8yqzUfXV+awChjTpVGtB4m00r0nKupTSc1+JZiuekYt3eTZe8eAYMhdQzVBP6k2hYeiNr+iSRdweH0dNMcnAXENtJ1036zrki57LNmbzNFEfrSuZS3Ay+NLHpzKk= 2KvS24wZT0CQ5w_c9GQ3xe2fJfRXVhkrJMglH2tk665sAvdX8FoUm9ZFeZY3 ggptliO3SlzuCac9G9dLv3Ob5IkjNioQlwWnNp2U6GzKTSTt0Sw58C98_Q2X vQbLB0gJ9TPEhMO.NEKIh.p1_7lBeKnYiLl2X6ORUabwWCeShcl5pw27Q4M. 7.dfHxL5MG6KQ2gnJKP1Ze06Ufkc3fGcgDouzXo09bRnICiYi2UQ6d0gCtf_ Q_7yB8Jpi1FIfVoukDYoaL9YLahhQFHWIVjO5rECQy75PvEl1dv.idl6CD44 C0t.gcIOZLmZv35Yf0.G_diVAT._4zdUlmFwcoE2RSL2Da2Ons8Ms8S9LLCg VtAXLoDhA84nymDt1T8_K30nkXWiuZtvn31EdoWrUFEJTOVcESOc2cs0CkTW gJdNjg8Jd1D3gOueLONEK3NRqgYCddUdWTDnPt3xn83WmPvf08CjFTI7Gi7B .Q_80zL.lelEtG68IIZq.3HC0djlxmV1O_WnyyAKsvH7gLcRAzP77H7cbl2i qEnWxu.M3wdYrFg2qjP23cHHn7ipAgPyvpe6ifaRAc4KDjsALifX2P6TcDjG UbMwL0eeUsC68G1XaV9ZTQq3a5yPIoOD9B_0Ho6UX3TN0u.5y8BgxJ_WBHM4 gpKgiLwHqsgvENFUxCNAtkg-- by smtp225.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jun 2013 22:45:14 +0000 UTC References: <00f801ce711e$484d8300$d8e88900$@fooddude.com> From: Jamie Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 18:44:40 -0400 To: FoodDude Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumphs are still relevant, even today Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Can you guys come down/over to Sebring? Jamie Palmer On Jun 24, 2013, at 5:03 PM, "FoodDude" wrote: > We are encouraging them to do one in NOLA, they'd love to see 2 6's too! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Joe Henry > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 8:25 AM > To: Vince G; Reed, John > Cc: Friends of Triumph > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumphs are still relevant, even today > > As a fellow TR6 racer on the ChumpCar circuit, I can also say it is not > always about finishing at the sharp end of the pack but the victory in just > finishing and having fun. Congratulations and well done! We need to figure > out a race where both Chump TR6s can compete head to head! > > Joe Downer > RiffRAF Racing TR6 > Charlotte, N.C. > >> From: vangoughv@hotmail.com >> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 08:41:51 -0400 >> To: John.Reed@wilson.com >> CC: fot@autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumphs are still relevant, even today >> >> Very cool. Way to go! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 2013-06-24, at 8:33 AM, "Reed, John" wrote: >> >>> Wow that's awesome. Congrats >>> >>> >>> On 6/24/13 7:20 AM, "Bobby Whitehead" wrote: >>> >>> With the dawn of the new age and the alignment of the new world >>> order >> taking >>> shape, occasionally on must take a few steps back to be right with >>> the >> world. >>> This past weekend is one such event when the Chump Series came to >>> the > well >>> used >>> Texas World Speedway in College Station Texas. Six fearless >>> champions > came >> to >>> show to the world, once again, that the Triumph marque was still >>> relevant >> and >>> worthy. Team FOGHAT (five old guys have a Triumph) ... (yes we can't > count >>> either) proudly campaigned a true crap can car.. in theory there are >> supposed >>> to >>> be $500 cars that enter the event... now I don't know about you but >>> I've looked far and wide for a $500 Miata (or Myyaatah according to >>> our Canadian >> driver) >>> and >>> I've never found one,,, much less a BMW or a SHO.. but our car I >>> happen > to >>> know >>> was a former Lemons car owned by Bob Kramer that was a $200 car.. >>> 1970 > TR6 >>> bone >>> stock and not worthy of much..but it was complete. >>> We campaigned all day Saturday from start to checker flag EIGHT >>> hours in > 95 >>> degree heat. A big thanks to the CoolShirt company indeed. We had >>> tires >> that >>> were very predictable, they would not hold a corner at all. That >>> night > the >>> tires >>> were switched out for sticky tires and we started Sunday with much >>> more >> grip. >>> Yours truly was piloting the TR6 when all that traction separated >>> the > front >>> wheel from the hub, thank God it was not turn 7 or the >>> straight..with > much >>> vigor >>> and stupidity several of the guys forged on to reattach studs and > lugnuts.. >>> we >>> were sidelined for several hours but we did get the TR6 back on the >>> track >> the >>> last hour to catch the checked flag! >>> Later in the afternoon the awards ceremony came around and all the >>> usual trophies were passed out. It came to the final trophy for the >>> event, one >> that >>> personified the true spirit of crap can racing in the Chump Series >>> and > with >>> large eruption of cheers from the team and the crowd, team Foghat >>> was >> awarded >>> the great honor of the receiving the award. I hollered and even shed >>> a >> tear, >>> it >>> was one of the greatest moments in my Triumph career. >>> >>> Point is, it's okay to take a few steps back every once in a while, >>> if it makes you happy and keeps the true things in life relevant, >>> like racing > Triumphs! >>> >>> Bobby Whitehead >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/john.reed@wilson.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> John Reed >>> Global Staff Photographer >>> Creative Services >>> >>> [cid:3454903983_95886804] >>> >>> Wilson Sporting Goods Co. >>> 8750 W. Bryn Mawr Ave, Chicago IL 60631: USA >>> T: 1 773.714.6895 F: 1 773.714.4585 >>> John.Reed@wilson.com http://www.wilson.com >>> http://www.amersports.com >>> >>> >>> This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. >>> If > you >> are >>> not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) >>> please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any >>> unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in >>> this e-mail is >> strictly >>> forbidden. >>> >>> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a >>> name of >> image.png] >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhd11@hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dforeman@fooddude.com > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.3345 / Virus Database: 3199/6429 - Release Date: 06/21/13 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr6driver@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 25 14:24:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A894051F for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 14:24:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B5540544 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 14:24:35 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=VF8WH/ydmY1tKSC0cVyY7WKRK5duc31VuN07SyXtKoEqAPIRRem5wqDVnIVi0EqY; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.43] (helo=elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1UrZl4-000777-Qj for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 16:22:34 -0400 Received: from 108.64.186.7 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 16:22:34 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 13:22:34 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: steve To: FOT Subject: [Fot] SVRA West Auto Club Speedway Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Here's some video from my TR3. Warm Up http://youtu.be/Q4FpWELY4U8 Flag Race http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfUFpPbqbkU ~Steve _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 25 17:46:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3543940691 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:46:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm25.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm25.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.152]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A658403D3 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:46:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.99] by nm25.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2013 23:44:22 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.254] by tm4.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2013 23:44:22 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1025.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2013 23:44:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 17781 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Jun 2013 23:44:22 -0000 s=s1024; t=1372203862; bh=SDoTFeBoHdfdnuHRRN9qj4iN9Nyq8yBiChPciHDyASU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=N28NXmkfzL0sCUZPZiRwGQiHzFPjy0q1s4Iif/wFFe2Ok8LRADpjL/kIySZbtb0sWARXW9fSApF+gzbYZnc/hr0gOZwBx6TDpMffX6hvtu3Oin3JUYB2yvghUU4MLnROfTsXw3PJjhUrbrPYgpKNjHd8gIEU9f+3/jFkPzrpuDg= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Agd0rBsFXjHAnEHicf9ZHmMHsPFfrWGEAl1xaoOr6H9D9vP+kmLm4ckxp8QHP5RVuPE+40IgqLlzkUqf/JoqgAlrl6CyKN0BXHR5P7jEWvPrOy2vXeDwwGbxsHwM89I77VHQ8RBaSQaA5gd0RTyM+M6DdSAW+TG//b8MlZkMSqM=; wpcDiHjJ3.7Ej_UHsDjfe_x_yU29AbB_P4SnnWtoqcAJZQ91zodaPldbRzfc 5b9FETuqyw2qC4oukrXRv3lMhp2RiifVKNkh9yXBIDtnfojbnU8KVnuDqb.L HKTKKvLYL4h0CCHFzbT8Z.7t4TwtrIYR1tBtwUQNRu7nH__9KgUtEaxbKf1J 1ONMutwDA1wKljsImb.XG7RuZ4BfLC0A7Itf.87h6XabMukNDuWpszDVKlGQ Ho3utJOTWQoQaLl7iKdX8xk_8_FdEv3LR78cPuWKBYMgCgbDpKDht9WlxKNC N_phSmCn21qHWKAGdV1uSqoZ2l.esMro6Ar3CDtk_ebihO7JXMGhwJZVBMG_ 2DgIeuHRg.bfJjaVBgR7l0RyOHiInayyoMLK0TWEAbUw7VOOrGV84ia43nIT 5aO71oOeEubh8vpuL5xhsj871dSYMR3_gB5ikJQtjQXvS0llyqbsIbEFLF6U jcjPXpUYSR_7OXG1mwD.v50JtytuG8S2dTN250cZ5Xx0rnazfoh0vNyEWfTI - Received: from [99.60.75.95] by web184805.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 16:44:21 PDT VGhhbmtzIFNjb3R0LCB0aGF0J3MgYSBnb29kIHRob3VnaHQ7IEknbGwgZ2l2ZSBpdCBhIHRyeS7CoCBUaGUgd2F5IEkgcGljdHVyZSBpdCwgdGhlIFRSNiBzcXVhdCBpcyBhIGR5bmFtaWMgdGhpbmcgYW5kIG5vdCBhIHN0YXRpYyB0aGluZy7CoCBJIGJlbGlldmUgd2hhdCB5b3UgYXJlIHNheWluZyBpcyB0aGF0IGlmIHRoZSBzdGF0aWMgY2FtYmVyIGlzLCBzYXksIG9uZSBkZWdyZWUgbW9yZSBuZWdhdGl2ZSBhdCBhIHByZXNjcmliZWQgaW5jbGluZSwgdGhlbiB0aGF0IHdvdWxkIGJlIG9uZSBtb3JlIGRlZ3IBMAEBAQE- References: <1371689063.8714.YahooMailNeo@web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1372180891.62601.YahooMailNeo@web184805.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <82BFCF3631841845BADD37BD9FE7EA73203038C8@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 16:44:21 -0700 (PDT) From: sherry robyn To: "Barr, Scott" Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Do hillclimb conditions increase or decrease TR6 squat? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Scott, that's a good thought; I'll give it a try. The way I picture it, the TR6 squat is a dynamic thing and not a static thing. I believe what you are saying is that if the static camber is, say, one degree more negative at a prescribed incline, then that would be one more degree in the wrong direction. That being said, it still might end up with the same negative camber over the same period of time even with the weight bias more on the rear. That I wouldn't know by the static test. Jim ________________________________ From: "Barr, Scott" To: 'sherry robyn' Cc: 'Robert M. Lang' Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:35 AM Subject: RE: [Fot] Do hillclimb conditions increase or decrease TR6 squat? Have you tried jacking the front of the car up to simulate the actual slope of the hills you'll be racing on to see what it does to the static camber of your car? I assume your concern is the weight jacking caused by the slope? Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of sherry robyn Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 12:22 PM To: Robert M. Lang Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Do hillclimb conditions increase or decrease TR6 squat? Hi Bob, I do have camber adjustment on the rear and that is what I thought I might adjust for a hillclimb where more weight is on the rear. I have stiffer springs (normal height) all the way around, rear sway bar, Koni shocks on rear (tied into the roll cage), and currently zero degrees rear camber. I just wondered if I should set the rear camber for something like one degree positive for a hillclimb. Jim ________________________________ From: Robert M. Lang To: sherry robyn Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Do hillclimb conditions increase or decrease TR6 squat? Hi, I doubt that a hillclimb would add more squat on acceleration. The squat on the TR6 is more or less a feature. You cannot dial it out with just springs. Well, you can (by running stupidly stiff springs), but then the car won't handle. The best thing you can do is either completely replace the suspension with a better design, like a Miata rear or maybe a BMW 3-series (or even TVR 2500 / Jag) OR run a better shock setup that allows you to control the weight transfer... Or you can live with the squat. To that end, you SHOULD pay attention to whether you're hitting the bump stops or not. If so, you def. need either stiffer springs / bars or you need to learn to NOT "throw" the car around. regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 25 19:07:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C45140544 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 19:07:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (isis.mit.edu [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2048340334 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 19:07:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r5Q158OC005967; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 21:05:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 21:05:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: sherry robyn References: <1371689063.8714.YahooMailNeo@web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1372180891.62601.YahooMailNeo@web184805.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Do hillclimb conditions increase or decrease TR6 squat? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I wouldn't set the car for less camber just because you're at a hillclimb. For this event, I ran autocross settings (1/4" toe out front, about 1.5 degrees neg. camber front and rear and ZERO toe in the rear.) The road camber was more important than the alignment settings, IMHO. E.G., drive the right line and you're good to go. Get off the proper line and there was no road to help and trees/rocks/guardrails calling. regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 26 04:51:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80CFC40522 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 04:51:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d06.mx.aol.com (omr-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735BA40521 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 04:51:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.4]) by omr-d06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id D8D0D70075E27; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 06:49:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (189.sub-70-193-0.myvzw.com [70.193.0.189]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 94A20E00008A; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 06:49:35 -0400 (EDT) References: <1371689063.8714.YahooMailNeo@web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1372180891.62601.YahooMailNeo@web184805.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> From: Jack Mc Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 06:49:36 -0400 To: "Robert M. Lang" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1372243775; bh=i62POfrzxpAwvHd3440SLmtDhKNBtomnmW42Q6KKqIc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=Dfz4Q4OidYd23pRCjBd5m2sTDw2Qh6HaPQckmwBzFB9RAQms2pac+l5j+npphQQgx +5ukYW5bl1yRq7W7+ogDyvTbJnUG7w22a4fhbKnqspozOoQpmB5P5ANIj+7PcA2QT5 t6m68uS6q0MjCtfx2xjzRYnzVCvk77foyGURFYVc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290451cac73f6121 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Do hillclimb conditions increase or decrease TR6 squat? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net 1/4" toe out? HolyFlyingGaurdRail Batman! That sounds like a handful for that 4th gear stretch - was it twitchy? Seems like it would "hunt" for a straight path at high speeds - In a way you'd never feel in an Autocross. No? Maybe? On the other hand, I don't guess I would change it for one weekend. Nice video, nice drive Cheers, Jack Mc Sent from my iPad On Jun 25, 2013, at 9:05 PM, "Robert M. Lang" wrote: > Hi, > > I wouldn't set the car for less camber just because you're at a hillclimb. For this event, I ran autocross settings (1/4" toe out front, about 1.5 degrees neg. camber front and rear and ZERO toe in the rear.) > > The road camber was more important than the alignment settings, IMHO. E.G., drive the right line and you're good to go. Get off the proper line and there was no road to help and trees/rocks/guardrails calling. > > regards, > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/limeyv8@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 26 07:04:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D2C24279A for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 07:04:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (isis.mit.edu [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1367642795 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 07:01:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r5QCxXAN007744; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 08:59:33 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 08:59:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Jack Mc References: <1371689063.8714.YahooMailNeo@web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1372180891.62601.YahooMailNeo@web184805.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Do hillclimb conditions increase or decrease TR6 squat? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On Wed, 26 Jun 2013, Jack Mc wrote: > 1/4" toe out? Yep. It turns in GREAT! You just have to remember that you can't toss it hard or you're going to pay at the other end. > HolyFlyingGaurdRail Batman! That sounds like a handful for that 4th gear > stretch - was it twitchy? Seems like it would "hunt" for a straight > path at high speeds - In a way you'd never feel in an Autocross. No? > Maybe? We do see speeds in the 75 MPH range in our region and the car isn't darty at all at them. BUT - it's autocross == transistion city. For that long stretch, the car just went where I pointed it. I do see that I am making lots of really, really small corrections on the long section, but that's more road defects than anything. I also had a fairly strong grip on the wheel. ;-) > On the other hand, I don't guess I would change it for one weekend. Ya - I've been driving that setup for a while - like 10 years. I'm sort of used to it. > Nice video, nice drive TNX... it was lots of fun. > Cheers, > Jack Mc regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 26 14:47:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B14403F8 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 14:47:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm29-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm29-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.255]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6535403F6 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 14:47:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.200] by nm29.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jun 2013 20:45:27 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.151] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jun 2013 20:45:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1027.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jun 2013 20:45:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 44982 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Jun 2013 20:45:27 -0000 s=s1024; t=1372279527; bh=h53VZ+d+VdDUgpsiUK9RT4PtjCBTg1jGv50+O/lZVJg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=M6TKdJ9dym1UDLHwkxpjPFweCnPoGDxu0Bsn56zdYN/JvdnwpTQMFOOPDZwE5wIyKjbPdq7WVUUC0QQh4AfMMrD9S3jwtfzYOHLjdAKM598yfm57oxIrqHoaS2cDul7DAM/ZancP/Fft000QjqJV/7XYQJqVlPSV5e1goDWrceM= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sn/YEwyfNmS+JrjD1QbQOhu5EVoMq112FdkXtZzGYuiWgXCgFV1NOU49mVibUruZdp+J5/cInZLsUij7O3VWUi/SDaFQvrhd+R0j79ILTvdGUaXUICPFdZO33OZAiPT+5EeePMNEF2XcQYdAd/8hiJoo5yhLL0fivtAc4tiCYr8=; PxJrUl9AvMmnPkKikMLswzoswTkpXy3jScrLiDDNpdDT8RGeL3K3kM8CFR4V h6vkDS64jqwBga5.eLsTLjruOmjEfN7A8yHbq4IBBag9hZHpZI4pTjbDCPpA yLZGJhB4bxA9_PVkaQfimi7sYg1dccv7IppqVYQ9Ha46mDxGnr3.OnxFwoiB 6GJE.hrIid637_BZsSwYJClVsWhjbar.epXNvjWxe8x9axdYcHaS7NfFS9Rz 38H.L6VAjeML4Qa3Oksz89JgFW8_mdxnV4WPr34L2mMQZtTT4WhYfOlpdgej y6mNZ4JouOxc.BDxtx.VNedH4aHS_RIUlocYWbIUBwDCBfEgyEjzJqmQD7eq d4RQ_YT6bA_fJONaueAr1ZeEbn.TwV5dkE49r9c1DvoKxtHyWGkdRrEM.t1n zO7c13Dg4DwtoNpR8WxO25UUOHztUVsgFJ7gu9qSLqxGFVRL8M4P5sMu4khb .WcSFkEIt0oyVUQu5G7WgJKSrX561hOnbTcAC8l_CLcdbUGlvm6E78Y5JBf0 JbYKbCen6jxYqV3snNKtlE1MKdk_rv7WQChwqemjNyuqEk7j77VWUNKHw6BV 7z0hNHMd_L3HbvXNmc9cOy.iw.YdThwHeza19vFj0tMWdg.0D1Q-- Received: from [162.198.152.23] by web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 13:45:27 PDT CgoKLS0KU3ViamVjdDogUmU6IEZpbmFsIENIVU1QIHVwZGF0ZQogCgoKaHR0cDovL3d3dy55b3V0dWJlLmNvbS93YXRjaD92PUNIaGl1Q3h0cWNVJmZlYXR1cmU9eW91dHUuYmUKCkNoZWNrIG91dCB0aGUgdmlkZW8gZm9yIHRoZSBIYWJhbmVybyBIb29uIGF0IFRXUyBhbmQgVGVhbSBGb2doYXQKCm15IGZyaWVuZCBSaWNoYXJkIGRpZCBhIGdyZWF0IGpvYiBvbiB0aGUgQ2h1bXAgdmlkZW8geW91dHViZSHCoMKgIGVuam95IQoKQm9iYnkgV2hpdGVoZWFkATABAQEB References: <7E980743035A0B468AE5A2743E890D394909FE@ORD2MBX02B.mex05.mlsrvr.com> <1372258645.46695.YahooMailClassic@web181006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 13:45:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] Fw: Final CHUMP update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net -- Subject: Re: Final CHUMP update http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHhiuCxtqcU&feature=youtu.be Check out the video for the Habanero Hoon at TWS and Team Foghat my friend Richard did a great job on the Chump video youtube! enjoy! Bobby Whitehead _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 26 15:13:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 915F640518 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 15:13:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm8-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm8-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41DF0403F6 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 15:13:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.149] by nm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jun 2013 21:11:15 -0000 Received: from [98.139.213.9] by tm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jun 2013 21:11:15 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp109.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jun 2013 21:11:15 -0000 s=s1024; t=1372281075; bh=/j4C1x9Vod34Vzpgjj2D38MmJiUGcjSW7X6u/L23vNE=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=nMgVtANWtDzwFutTpMkd2tJszdGqKZjkNwvAeJMm+yQZVl/7Up4vpwypneFdhEwj3NMvaQqFTP+yE9JCpwuxOuVfp9VKRdhgRc9/fhpIsuKg7oOLx2MLfyERRLpx3TwBcng7JI+qgcb1hH7/NbWXz4QH9GdzfLc+Q4b48CGcUJQ= HGCElo8YU2DF8_tlyJEkqKW1shpARFeMv_7crLMKG8cc3DAENqhU68JmU5US _YyK5DRh7B3CnZjSe2si2FdTSWW74YSxkHc5Y8ChM0KL3bFdckz7GUiXJGGx kpmq2wBzsq3kn8uhluJKk_N0lq7YaYZPpiqMCglIMqaHEabt4hBkCzpo38iu V684Eeby9Mpa0N.giU.jS3O2FDaQfWHjO1uwP16hb2lgOgYZUfrc_NEYzoDQ dtEASgSQ8HaYXkCsdlnOZ.oCIZaI8Jq0IfIWGTdlzdoQiT_Mt0lP_oOJl77Z hBfJxb5vQdb0y_GVcWdj_KnV88zHVHX6abUUF1fGJrdjAw_RJ9KvDcNi4v0L YCMOHqiZDMVf3.5q2e5qr.WxP2pl9rT47qF1JmI9a2JmuGsoeJtbx86T_Rwa 499tG3pMY6MByA4fQPERukSIpmuvZNbb2Gnfm0ejM_6IkDllIg8cWvbdzVO4 xIYrEOvh8bSYiUucpbFs4.P1DPZ3E.xXBdbccaL2JlG121YABL9LD.nAu6jx lMMMW5lzBYOXRt2bCQ64yHwMRC6g2N51fNoDEQcZat46gxu0G0mprAe5uxRT 0i6_uANKfFaVkDd7KBI38avZOe.ZuKUtSijE21qYRoDh1cy7tNtY4qTJW0Ym ShA-- ) by smtp109.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Jun 2013 14:11:14 -0700 PDT References: <7E980743035A0B468AE5A2743E890D394909FE@ORD2MBX02B.mex05.mlsrvr.com> <1372258645.46695.YahooMailClassic@web181006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1372279527.39675.YahooMailNeo@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Andy Packard Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 14:11:12 -0700 To: Bobby Whitehead Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Final CHUMP update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Very cool video. We can only hope to have similar success with our TR4 lemons project. I'm thinking some new wheel studs may be in order. Andy Packard Sent from my iPhone On Jun 26, 2013, at 1:45 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > -- > Subject: Re: Final CHUMP update > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHhiuCxtqcU&feature=youtu.be > > Check out the > video for the Habanero Hoon at TWS and Team Foghat > > my friend Richard did a > great job on the Chump video youtube! enjoy! > > Bobby Whitehead > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/apackard68@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 26 15:58:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED1642737 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 15:58:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail201c2.megamailservers.com (mail201c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB6F40E67 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 15:57:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.239.69.176] (245.sub-174-228-1.myvzw.com [174.228.1.245]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail201c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r5QLtBt0006357 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 26 Jun 2013 17:55:13 -0400 References: <7E980743035A0B468AE5A2743E890D394909FE@ORD2MBX02B.mex05.mlsrvr.com> <1372258645.46695.YahooMailClassic@web181006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1372279527.39675.YahooMailNeo@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: John Hasty Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 17:55:11 -0400 To: Bobby Whitehead a=83_iQ7Ric2IA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ftEzh4EWAkbfcexKKSw5CA==:17 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=hkYweXNvAAAA:20 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=kFOyJzrghwYd-vm82E8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=ftEzh4EWAkbfcexKKSw5CA==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Final CHUMP update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net What a great video Bobby. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 26, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > -- > Subject: Re: Final CHUMP update > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHhiuCxtqcU&feature=youtu.be > > Check out the > video for the Habanero Hoon at TWS and Team Foghat > > my friend Richard did a > great job on the Chump video youtube! enjoy! > > Bobby Whitehead > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 26 16:09:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6854276E for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 16:09:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yh0-f41.google.com (mail-yh0-f41.google.com [209.85.213.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1808340536 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 16:09:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-yh0-f41.google.com with SMTP id z20so6600yhz.28 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 15:07:12 -0700 (PDT) h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=zVBjdJxL237Fh9EEtahrO9Gnq/3CjAiCo74FABcYuvM=; b=vy3eZkeWvRbTnqxJD29LUKcbui2/yR1hepW9dd4AKc2ysZKX96RwHPhJWCBORceGgC HbH5G1olVytl6siasJQPFqKTl0scsxn8XxxqrIlFCqE3EdXP8+29rKMoCCEWHuIqAuWz qOwJecx8wi4WEf0tck5IjA4pyMYm3Ilm3VGQkcFS1AWeKgoj2hB7ltOgzli7sA393qPO 20RDnBQPmL7IWpAraqDsJDeX8KVFc05DDv829QHSQR2ENUuMb3GsddkPSBM8euulf9Kf MXtMwlhbaiD+jUiqfp1N5Qjn5Nol0XpSXsSS9j7CgOdp0Dg1ewFqbf8oJw97xnlbVnxp 02aQ== d27mr3085746yhl.98.1372284432746; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 15:07:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b50sm48018930yhl.1.2013.06.26.15.07.11 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 26 Jun 2013 15:07:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 17:07:07 -0500 References: <7E980743035A0B468AE5A2743E890D394909FE@ORD2MBX02B.mex05.mlsrvr.com> <1372258645.46695.YahooMailClassic@web181006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1372279527.39675.YahooMailNeo@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> To: Bobby Whitehead Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Final CHUMP update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Looks like a great effort. Not a bad best lap time at TWS, all things considered. Duncan On Jun 26, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > -- > Subject: Re: Final CHUMP update > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHhiuCxtqcU&feature=youtu.be > > Check out the > video for the Habanero Hoon at TWS and Team Foghat > > my friend Richard did a > great job on the Chump video youtube! enjoy! > > Bobby Whitehead > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 27 06:01:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F322C4275B for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 06:01:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f44.google.com (mail-qa0-f44.google.com [209.85.216.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16DB4274D for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 06:00:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id o13so1959061qaj.3 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 04:58:52 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=1lZ8QBy8deIF3WXj6q3EKyzO+c3iH+EBJ6ypCjB2kFM=; b=F6nJBYLV3kQkpsQ0vDu3vNBz+agP6eJMSwYzqT7Ipl8bHNkey5/hvP4osyt1eEMDgr aRsRbMVoTmTk06H7nPASe1+OQzBzJBG7M5GCBP1F2PG8S6lPVy+z60XnPhOk2HzP+W7H q/wzL8nH7DAvx1QNXZe0bQAo2RrkkNlcY3WelWnVh8WMT1G9Ug63SL9N312h0yTGuRZn 5/JTZSeaHKgv/dOqLroZd3dQoj4l2F8OkNX1rGGxxjgiWcJRjHHZ340KNbSnEVWU37Tw B9gZYyfQtDt7Oq8MMIvKiMuNNxpcnrYao4WotOoegzoJY7p2It8b5JjuXfuNMj3RzMoU AINg== q19mr10355095qac.82.1372334332849; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 04:58:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.119.33 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 04:58:52 -0700 (PDT) References: <7E980743035A0B468AE5A2743E890D394909FE@ORD2MBX02B.mex05.mlsrvr.com> <1372258645.46695.YahooMailClassic@web181006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1372279527.39675.YahooMailNeo@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 07:58:52 -0400 From: Robert Deanes To: Duncan Charlton Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Final CHUMP update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Nice summary of the event and good video of the car "coming back to life"....you guys did a good job On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Duncan Charlton < duncan.charlton54@gmail.com> wrote: > Looks like a great effort. Not a bad best lap time at TWS, all things > considered. > Duncan > > > On Jun 26, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > > > -- > > Subject: Re: Final CHUMP update > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHhiuCxtqcU&feature=youtu.be > > > > Check out the > > video for the Habanero Hoon at TWS and Team Foghat > > > > my friend Richard did a > > great job on the Chump video youtube! enjoy! > > > > Bobby Whitehead > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 27 07:16:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498084276A for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 07:16:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from e39.co.us.ibm.com (e39.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.160]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A6742750 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 07:16:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from /spool/local by e39.co.us.ibm.com with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! 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Violators will be prosecuted; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 07:14:33 -0600 Received: from d01relay05.pok.ibm.com (d01relay05.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.237]) by d01dlp03.pok.ibm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650FEC90026 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 09:14:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d01av02.pok.ibm.com (d01av02.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.216]) by d01relay05.pok.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id r5RDEWdK266434 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 09:14:32 -0400 Received: from d01av02.pok.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d01av02.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id r5RDEVbb018107 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 10:14:31 -0300 Received: from d01ml099.pok.ibm.com (d01ml099.pok.ibm.com [9.63.8.34]) by d01av02.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVin) with ESMTP id r5RDEVZq018104 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 10:14:31 -0300 To: fot@autox.team.net From: George Harmuth Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 09:14:31 -0400 ZX853FP2HF5|February, 2013) at 06/27/2013 09:14:31 x-cbid: 13062713-3620-0000-0000-0000034F5A97 Subject: [Fot] SVRA at the Glen Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I was looking at some pictures from an online mag I subscribe to, Sports Car Digest, and came across a nice picture of John Hasty. (Added plus, he's ahead of an MG) http://www.sportscardigest.com/svra-watkins-glen-wine-classic-2013-report-and-photos/5/ well done G. Michael Harmuth 63 spit _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 27 09:34:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689AE42755 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 09:34:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from col0-omc2-s8.col0.hotmail.com (col0-omc2-s8.col0.hotmail.com [65.55.34.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0364F40690 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 08:38:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from COL125-W35 ([65.55.34.71]) by col0-omc2-s8.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 27 Jun 2013 07:36:31 -0700 From: Joe Henry To: FoT Triumph Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 14:36:31 +0000 References: <7E980743035A0B468AE5A2743E890D394909FE@ORD2MBX02B.mex05.mlsrvr.com>, <1372258645.46695.YahooMailClassic@web181006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>, <1372279527.39675.YahooMailNeo@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, , FILETIME=[B74FB3A0:01CE7343] Subject: Re: [Fot] Final CHUMP update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Great Video Guys! Congrats again on the successful weekend. Looked like fun. Joe Downer RiffRAF Racing TR6 Charlotte, N.C. > Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 07:58:52 -0400 > From: rfdeanes@gmail.com > To: duncan.charlton54@gmail.com > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Final CHUMP update > > Nice summary of the event and good video of the car "coming back to > life"....you guys did a good job > > > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Duncan Charlton < > duncan.charlton54@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Looks like a great effort. Not a bad best lap time at TWS, all things > > considered. > > Duncan > > > > > > On Jun 26, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > > > > > -- > > > Subject: Re: Final CHUMP update > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHhiuCxtqcU&feature=youtu.be > > > > > > Check out the > > > video for the Habanero Hoon at TWS and Team Foghat > > > > > > my friend Richard did a > > > great job on the Chump video youtube! enjoy! > > > > > > Bobby Whitehead > > > _______________________________________________ > > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > -- > rob deanes > TR Racer > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhd11@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 27 20:42:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72684403F3 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 20:42:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d07.mx.aol.com (omr-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938C940359 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 20:42:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.12]) by omr-d07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B1DB870000097; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 22:42:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dee001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dee001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.54.65]) by mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 8021BE000082; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 22:42:42 -0400 (EDT) References: To: levilevi@comcast.net, fot@autox.team.net From: robertten1@aol.com Received: from 96.233.64.253 by webmail-m135.sysops.aol.com (149.174.9.24) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 27 Jun 2013 22:42:42 -0400 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 22:42:42 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1372387362; bh=QrXBkj30yQBZBfxwjkJZdDyqYoKKu/E9avClpc1rogc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PIWnLfHJ1GktED4Lxw0x5Q/sKAZCVLg+wqRYOQj6EtrYrjNcmLF3A7A2qG0O8EOWn KL8oRjqvnp6ae2FRXSezWlQVZi5y/tOI3mpDqmjAPpqu7yWLxGs1z4z6kqAPXdXfYD XW2JYBymO+yTcgmn06G5suDuCktiqlZWnt4zWliU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290c51ccf82209a4 Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire 1296 Housing bores for rods and mains? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bud, Engine Bore ( std. ) : 2.900" Main Pin Diameter ( std. ) : 2.0005" - 2.0010" Rod Pin Diameter ( std. ) : 1.6250" - 1.6255" You could verify specs with a check to the Spitfire & GT6 Magazine website, lots of info and good links. Cheers, Bob T '63 Spitfire 4 '64 Spitfire GT autocrosser -----Original Message----- From: Bud R To: FoT Triumph ; triumphs Sent: Thu, Jun 27, 2013 7:44 pm Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1296 Housing bores for rods and mains? Anyone have housing bore rod and main specs for a small journal 1296 pitfire? Thanks ud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 1 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 1TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 3 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 7 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 28 00:01:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE82403FB for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 00:01:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF55140359 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 23:59:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C1BA107B for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 23:59:06 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 23:59:05 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Flight plans? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If one were to fly to Wisconsin for the event, what is the best destination airport? mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 28 06:28:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50FD40431 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 06:28:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d02.mx.aol.com (omr-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 798E240322 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 06:28:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.134]) by omr-d02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7C9B370087798; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 08:28:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.116] (71-13-26-216.dhcp.dlth.mn.charter.com [71.13.26.216]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id DA7C8E0000BF; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 08:28:16 -0400 (EDT) References: <51CD2629.1020605@bradakis.com> From: Jhouathome Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 07:28:18 -0500 To: Mark J Bradakis x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1372422497; bh=nGiBv2y4wBN+WnhfrczUam/zmhSnHNSzfyWT2dg8ovI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=lGlDO0ps1mHcxDIlt6bi1BZ+BLA/8i0aO+zGNlN/k+WDM+DdeFTTOEBhfhR2fAnm4 RSMTx978p8oSvtnexFny5Ba1TahhwB3DerbUn46Su2g1iLr3+w1zw+6ffebhE9P99m CuNWVDudERGpsws/50uBTMXSVDLYtc3TK2Pj75k8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338651cd81604b83 Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Flight plans? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Milwaukee. It's about 60 miles south of Road America. Sent from my iPad On Jun 28, 2013, at 12:59 AM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > If one were to fly to Wisconsin for the event, what is the best destination airport? > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhouathome@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 28 07:59:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC0A40447 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 07:59:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm9-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm9-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.247]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BCB40431 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 07:59:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.173] by nm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jun 2013 13:59:27 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.237] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jun 2013 13:59:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jun 2013 13:59:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 98256 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Jun 2013 13:59:27 -0000 s=s1024; t=1372427967; bh=R2uRMlHbEB0aydI45zmgEoOF7iFldZbBEsZ2F4gnLyY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HqRzIX00ML+Z+Bkmbhc5Tu6a6yI3cU4Swgz7JIAaguJ2xWADBTuozDeLdAbEn+wqPNi/BOChZSN0ediwwRExgLATfoQ2NLGheS5n53AWOQ1KS4ZbAdrH+WlloPhL9we78S68+PRef5bLC4t0g0+HrSltQBdb5AUSmgbe3VbJkhE= s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=iO9wp6YN6nEWLo7I3ObDnMijZaozFry79UXomN+7gQj0tfGtEAtZk/BQwrm+SRlF7dLAKrbaqNv/P0Pbz95JzANFzi/mcG9VypBNFXbKo2BaYAMbAOQ5gtxOWS19WAFSRr1eg5N9fBCWuc9deu1rc/xHUxNcDgANrIt/GMzUpXM=; Received: from [97.203.225.255] by web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 06:59:26 PDT Q2hpY2FnbyBPaGFyZSBpcyBhIGdvb2QgY2hvaWNlIGFsc28uwqAgQW4gZWFzeSBkcml2ZSB1cCB0byBSQS7CoCBNaWR3YXkgQ2hpY2FnbyB3b3JrcyB0b28uwqAgU29tZXRpbWVzIHRoZSBhaXJmYXJlIGNvc3RzIGFyZSBsb3dlciBmb3IgdGhlIENoaWNhZ28gYWlycG9ydHMgYW5kIGp1c3RpZnkgdGhlIHdlZSBiaXQgbG9uZ2VyIGRyaXZlLgoKU2VudCBmcm9tIFlhaG9vISBNYWlsIG9uIEFuZHJvaWQKCgEwAQEBAQ-- Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 06:59:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Steven Benford Jr To: "mark@bradakis.com" , "jhouathome@aol.com" Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Flight plans? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Chicago Ohare is a good choice also. An easy drive up to RA. Midway Chicago works too. Sometimes the airfare costs are lower for the Chicago airports and justify the wee bit longer drive. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 28 09:16:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA4C40422 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 09:16:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d06.mx.aol.com (omr-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3062F403F3 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 09:08:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.138]) by omr-d06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6800D70079C76; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 11:08:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtb004a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtb004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.205]) by mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 394C7E000085; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 11:08:13 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 11:08:13 -0400 (EDT) To: sbracing@sbcglobal.net, mark@bradakis.com, jhouathome@aol.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1372432093; bh=UbPlTMsGEClf+GAB5PgahjFKwmJH1Pt5nYjb6DS8Dy4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=srlST/6YBHqIKGuGeqVPkDfba/WrpR2Fs/yQsZzMM8iBa/UakhkPd4DUDHqsNw63Q BgM6bTMejihtQPCkwLBNgKV2TEoy9tCYkNmXXJUPSE7SxL+xL+NXtto+hJLeIwoQvo uFGGpjEMbiZaV8fqoes/+EHN6zEvMzzDN1Jx4Cas= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338a51cda6dd21d2 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Flight plans? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 06/28/2013 8:59:33 AM Central Daylight Time, sbracing@sbcglobal.net writes: > Chicago O'Hare is a good choice also. An easy drive up to RA. Midway > Chicago > works too. Sometimes the airfare costs are lower for the Chicago airports > and > justify the wee bit longer drive. > Mark... IMHO (whatever that's worth), consider that Scott Barr is braver than I am (his lap times at Blackhawk and Road America suggest this), but know I would assign considerable worth to avoiding the complications of flying into and out of O'Hare and/or Midway. There is no question that there may be airfare money to be saved by flying into O'Hare and, especially, Midway. But there is a reason for this...inconvenience. And on the week end...considerable inconvenience. In 'good traffic' add an hour to the trip up to Road America from O'Hare, and at least an hour and a half from Midway, and all of this in 'Chicago related' traffic. This might not be the end of the World if you are coming in on Thursday, but it will have consequences on Friday, and especially on Sunday. Seems like half the population of Chicago tries to get out of town EVERY weekend, and a significant part of them want to come up into Wisconsin. Who can blame them? I sure would. But this is no fun to deal with. You can find yourself dealing with bumper to bumper, stop and go traffic on Interstate 94. as you try to leave or approach Chicago during these periods. Now add the fact that you have a plane to catch. Know also, that between the Illinois boarder and Milwaukee, there is considerable road construction on Interstate 94 in Wisconsin. I can't argue against the fact that there are dollars to be saved by flying into O'Hare or Midway...but there are certainly other 'costs' to consider and especially the extra time you'll need to make departure times on Sunday. So beware. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 28 09:32:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4ADD4042B for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 09:32:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC8F403F3 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 09:32:35 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=SuZv+/VUBFpDO5cuzQvO6YTvFnsQUsJUz9NBnk5fhKGaOgxzegD5nWFTZGqyZkcc; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.45] (helo=elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Usaf4-0002k4-KD; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 11:32:34 -0400 Received: from 108.64.186.7 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 11:32:34 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 08:32:34 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: steve To: Mark J Bradakis , Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Flight plans? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net MKE non-stop if possible. A word of warning, don't speed in WI, there are tons of speed traps. ~Steve -----Original Message----- >From: Mark J Bradakis >Sent: Jun 27, 2013 10:59 PM >To: Friends of Triumph >Subject: [Fot] Flight plans? > >If one were to fly to Wisconsin for the event, what is the best >destination airport? > >mjb. >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 28 10:22:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E1540078 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:22:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mercury.fastbytes.com (mercury.fastbytes.com [216.183.230.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308B2403F3 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:21:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from TimDellVostro [192.200.136.236] by mercury.fastbytes.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.00) id A8164180074; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 11:21:42 -0500 From: "Tim Murphy" To: "'Mark J Bradakis'" , "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <51CD2629.1020605@bradakis.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 11:19:24 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac5zxQf7ngYFmMM+T/Sd/GLeQM9/6QAUbOLw Content-Language: en-us Organization: FastBytesWireless Inc. Subject: Re: [Fot] Flight plans? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You might also look into Appleton. It's a small regional airport but it does have a lot of direct flights. Also a relatively short drive to the track with less traffic than Milwaukee. I agree with Bill D., avoid Chicago! Tim -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 12:59 AM To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Flight plans? If one were to fly to Wisconsin for the event, what is the best destination airport? mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph@fastbytes.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 28 11:51:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F26040424 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 11:51:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA22B40358 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 11:44:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ttjg1l0011wfjNsAFtkXDF; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 17:44:31 +0000 Received: from Bud ([67.164.120.205]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ttkW1l00V4RzRTX8jtkWSc; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 17:44:31 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "'Tim Murphy'" , "'Mark J Bradakis'" , "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <51CD2629.1020605@bradakis.com> <000001ce741b$43348ee0$c99daca0$@com> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:44:29 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac5zxQf7ngYFmMM+T/Sd/GLeQM9/6QAUbOLwAAQILZA= Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1372441471; bh=fXqtxYNIUSGuEgtc/hkSPnf5kjwBd9/VYf+rwoA7GHw=; h=Received:Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SnuRpAmfMt090UAWinbTGpuxb8po0+zt8HaGXaT1fSXxWGdMLIo+KHKLUXHEXvGXT raiKFxBUM+UOddH5A+lGdoNeIW6i9bdCsJI59ZnXSEOCWY2geHYjDlI0SIPwnlpQy0 yXca2a2Qi/OE19EufsSTG5rg0xs+jHKTnEyw6CD87JWZF5jMbXf4l+NRRQvtYTJ5fJ qHVUmqGhVLj2QErYIWvkjZqbpFss0sR2xq6gKje3XXrgqqjO2NPeU9chjXpWSHjTRq WWNBM0gLr5uDBlvOsniFzb6QCq+dLocbN1xNj+svaROi+qYJEPOVF/ddtByTc++Dwl qecvj2QG1KIiA== Subject: Re: [Fot] Flight plans? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net All I have to say is...It's been a long time since I've been to Wisconsin...You are all in for a treat...It is sooo beautiful!...Sooo green RB -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Murphy Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 9:19 AM To: 'Mark J Bradakis'; 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Flight plans? You might also look into Appleton. It's a small regional airport but it does have a lot of direct flights. Also a relatively short drive to the track with less traffic than Milwaukee. I agree with Bill D., avoid Chicago! Tim -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 12:59 AM To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Flight plans? If one were to fly to Wisconsin for the event, what is the best destination airport? mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph@fastbytes.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 28 13:04:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C9CA403F3 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 13:04:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FBF540322 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 12:58:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D62DDA13FF for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 12:58:16 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 12:58:16 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: Friends of Triumph References: <51CD2629.1020605@bradakis.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Flight plans? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for the info, folks. I hope I actually make it. I'd probably enjoy a road trip in, say, a nice running, air conditioned TR7, but that ain't gonna happen! Turns out flights into Appleton are only a couple dollars more than into Milwaukee. I hope I can make this happen! mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 29 12:08:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 831B04040D for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 12:08:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com (omr-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A9B40322 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 14:43:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.133]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7EB4E70086C17 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 16:43:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (ACBE04E8.ipt.aol.com [172.190.4.232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id E6B1EE0000DD for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 16:43:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mark A. Eden" Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 14:43:25 -0600 To: "FOT@autox.team.net" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1372452208; bh=KAMlkTWEGnxNcRytBV9GrV+SzNyeriqrgmIchMlu53s=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=jWBKfWomxWzeNk1ASxVOckCgPZhczrdORB35Lik2jlCxPaAIMZUouDuNAhM5KXhIt ETvOHA+npAblPEmLp6QV84le9tbrGd75yvhd5ssO0cqJy+S/15V8jWVb82lSOmmfex SKukJBlEqF4LOMj2bO3dMBUkGAv212X70t4PomuY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338551cdf56f1da7 Subject: Re: [Fot] Flight Plan Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mark: OK, as an airline pilot formerly based in Milwaukee now based in Chicago, commuting to both from Denver, I believe I can speak definitively on this subject. MILWAUKEE!!! Stay as far away from Chicago as possible. Unless you are given the ticket, any possible cost savings realized by going in/out of Chicago is NOT worth the added aggravation, period. Milwaukee is easy in easy out, (and no @#%$& Illinois toll roads). Getting to and from MKE to Road America is simple. I have about a half dozen other reasons I would avoid Chicago but I don't want this to sound like any more of a rant than it does now! (LOL!) Cheers! Mark Eden TR4s #357/#123 Spitfire #42 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 29 14:06:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E0840425 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 14:06:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d08.mx.aol.com (omr-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.207]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB844040C for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 14:06:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by omr-d08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id AB10B7000008E for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:06:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dne002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dne002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.160.69]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 82545E000082 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:06:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Gt6steve@aol.com Full-name: Gt6steve Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:06:37 -0400 (EDT) To: FOT@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1372536397; bh=M/HnplCXvmxOlw7Uu1xZs0q+mrSZAJEu8h2QDAus43U=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QG/ozI42669utp1zaLqiXqRbe0F04HroYrRxK5vbg2fg5OQt8V5i4FJCRVsDftLbI 7SBvAU7CG23dAsNeqrPrEsmMmrJlwdI1cXy4uX5uaO9fxgAyXp6ucdgYADzYdUzKfx QxVqLbgbQel4VnAuGrh18wLhwfz6j4uQTDDniMaM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b51cf3e4d40e1 Subject: [Fot] Late arrival at the KCup? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net IF, I were to arrive at the KCup at the last minute would I be able to enter and find a space? No promises, just fermenting here.... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 29 14:08:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D510B4003E for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 14:08:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EDD34003E for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 14:08:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0000A13FF for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 14:08:12 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 14:08:12 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Nice work Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Browsing through Kas' latest "book" and seeing some familiar names, faces and cars. Very nice job, Kas! mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 29 14:19:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1074043D for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 14:19:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d01.mx.aol.com (omr-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.252.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDC74032C for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 14:12:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.70]) by omr-d01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 5107670000089 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:12:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.88.159] (cpe-24-25-173-49.maine.res.rr.com [24.25.173.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id E5C10E0000EB; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:12:18 -0400 (EDT) References: From: Joe Alexander Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:12:17 -0400 To: "Gt6steve@aol.com" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1372536739; bh=Tiph//+H/qwvHuURV+bqLyIWg0fsN9wyV6c68BNWamo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=Q4TjiDPSiChelo7ZwZi3A4yIdInmJTNZOhoYQxRrNkQOQMc/rO2mo/6nKraoxxHlO qnTN9O0DJiJFioNA3YX5UtJeLUAzXg2uGqRZYvRRZ/9fKmy+wh8q2i81YwULPcjvb6 6nV+U3XmIxp1aHNL1kiqusHtC4fbRvyc88RU7vZQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294651cf3fa27696 Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Late arrival at the KCup? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We would work something out....check in as you go. Joe Sent from my iPad On Jun 29, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Gt6steve@aol.com wrote: > IF, I were to arrive at the KCup at the last minute would I be able to > enter and find a space? No promises, just fermenting here.... > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 29 15:51:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B512240452 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 15:51:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f176.google.com (mail-ie0-f176.google.com [209.85.223.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3B44042D for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 15:46:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f176.google.com with SMTP id ar20so6547987iec.21 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 14:45:59 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:message-id:reply-to:x-priority:sensitivity :importance:subject:to:from:date:content-type:mime-version :x-gm-message-state; bh=KQMOOg7nNxWnSrhpvxG7AcQO9pgMyF3KbltREOcz9X8=; b=Wo8VSVt3dCQoOuyEzWTbUIyOjD434ZnvJKHmUJ3xLidJ95+RuveuqlFFHK3CZUDQkV KOzT4qSKlvWKzoEiL8PCM7fQDdT2PDG7l82jVFhrGDcU3H9dZrI2/iFPgpecFxevVtUC ZRYRQsmUeCEx89XzOChYN/BEHGbR0vXRXKPvRQHyQUlCajRXSoCBFCL5g+VHYTKHTYfc WzRdSke3VbGIM+1YZAWZ8Q/GMYlmNlTJ3i0sEqvzysFt6T/oLg4lr3vUbftOewTaUGWR dqF6KxZ/RJG4O/uOD6uZH9pShaCGy5T0OlVfQ0QDeyRBr8GaXffVOU+j5LmGdNWBDUaJ re9Q== Sat, 29 Jun 2013 14:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.187 (bda-74-82-80-176.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ir8sm5404772igb.6.2013.06.29.14.45.58 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 29 Jun 2013 14:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Sensitivity: Normal To: Gt6steve@aol.com,fot-bounces@autox.team.net,FOT@autox.team.net From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 21:45:54 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] Late arrival at the KCup? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We would not only have a spot for you, my crew well get your car off the trailer, fill er up, check the vitals and have you all buckled in faster than you can say; "4 miles of black magic!" ARE YOU KIDDING? Of course man. Make it happen, that would be awesome! Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing ------Original Message------ From: Gt6steve@aol.com To: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Late arrival at the KCup? Sent: Jun 29, 2013 3:06 PM IF, I were to arrive at the KCup at the last minute would I be able to enter and find a space? No promises, just fermenting here.... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 29 16:07:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC35D40451 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:07:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com (omr-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E424042C for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 15:59:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.6]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 308DA700000BF; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 17:59:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.88.159] (cpe-24-25-173-49.maine.res.rr.com [24.25.173.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id CDA38E0000B4; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 17:59:12 -0400 (EDT) References: <20130629215129.C97D74042D@autox.team.net> From: Joe Alexander Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 17:59:12 -0400 To: "jason@multivintage.com" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1372543153; bh=+tDAiCH8XioOorEduQpCdxUDTqBTgnF2aFw4LZ/bPNA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=kuWMZfo/XXmSRzmtHRlgnintUdQsFcnRXBKLC0IiwekOpRwp42bBONqKz3P6HY45C jCQHLo+ODBBaW5HQ/vGgD/pw3QeRQXrZSL3WZ4L/bcOm2W1LhHhTRsZbsb0+XU7zxE /H3Hz0WdrCCW+sbUeQsKhTza5jC/YUrvPYyPnT2w= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290651cf58b001cd Cc: "fot-bounces@autox.team.net" , "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Late arrival at the KCup? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sent from my iPad On Jun 29, 2013, at 5:45 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > We would not only have a spot for you, my crew well get your car off the trailer, fill er up, check the vitals and have you all buckled in faster than you can say; "4 miles of black magic!" ARE YOU KIDDING? Of course man. Make it happen, that would be awesome! > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > ------Original Message------ > From: Gt6steve@aol.com > Sender: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > To: FOT@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Late arrival at the KCup? > Sent: Jun 29, 2013 3:06 PM > > IF, I were to arrive at the KCup at the last minute would I be able to > enter and find a space? No promises, just fermenting here.... > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com > > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 30 05:37:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0175A40510 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 05:37:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d06.mx.aol.com (omr-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C703C4044B for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 05:37:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.70]) by omr-d06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 97A9D700000B4 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 07:37:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.116] (71-13-26-216.dhcp.dlth.mn.charter.com [71.13.26.216]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 37F00E0000E3; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 07:37:23 -0400 (EDT) References: From: Jhouathome Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 06:37:23 -0500 To: "Gt6steve@aol.com" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1372592243; bh=t6x7k6g5vDiyieKF2Shfkg7BXPLcKUOZA38nfKHNcs0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=sPeqLOKwXAKoa5bplsr2Pf/dgp6HCNIKE/b08qOkzryKURVoc/MsjoScKSW9FnXxu JKDxNqYmMZG0QsWI3bt3/+6IccVn+Oe0YFbF+8pWg3s1+t1/xLpycufMfWbc+DmXAm wM+df0AoJI7R622zY2h8AefGDOj+UIeStb4p0Zdg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294651d018733cb7 Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Late arrival at the KCup? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Of course we will get you in! We always have a few "walk in" late entries, that's no problem at all. We can always squeeze you into the paddock area somewhere. Hope to see you in September, John Sent from my iPad On Jun 29, 2013, at 3:06 PM, Gt6steve@aol.com wrote: > IF, I were to arrive at the KCup at the last minute would I be able to > enter and find a space? No promises, just fermenting here.... > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhouathome@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 30 06:42:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E08144051D for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 06:42:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc3-s41.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc3-s41.snt0.hotmail.com [65.54.51.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D540840426; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 06:41:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT402-EAS47 ([65.55.90.137]) by snt0-omc3-s41.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 30 Jun 2013 05:41:50 -0700 References: <20130629215114.7212040430@autox.team.net> From: Vince G Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 08:41:47 -0400 To: "jason@multivintage.com" FILETIME=[30F663F0:01CE758F] Cc: "fot-bounces@autox.team.net" , "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Late arrival at the KCup? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I really hope you make it Steve two of us are coming in from Ontario and counting on a flock of GT6's. should be awesome. Sent from my iPhone On 2013-06-29, at 5:51 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > We would not only have a spot for you, my crew well get your car off the trailer, fill er up, check the vitals and have you all buckled in faster than you can say; "4 miles of black magic!" ARE YOU KIDDING? Of course man. Make it happen, that would be awesome! > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > ------Original Message------ > From: Gt6steve@aol.com > Sender: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > To: FOT@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Late arrival at the KCup? > Sent: Jun 29, 2013 3:06 PM > > IF, I were to arrive at the KCup at the last minute would I be able to > enter and find a space? No promises, just fermenting here.... > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com > > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 30 07:39:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EF5D40526 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 07:39:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s10.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s10.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.85]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF5E40079 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 07:36:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W42 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s10.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 30 Jun 2013 06:36:38 -0700 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 09:36:37 -0400 References: , FILETIME=[D8A63B00:01CE7596] Subject: [Fot] LAST CALL Kastner Cup Shirts and Drivers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net ITS TIME! If you want a shirt, order it now. If you plan on racing at Road America in September and have not given me you name and car details for the back of the shirt, do it now. If you gave me your name for the back of the shirt and know for sure you are not coming let me know now so I can remove it. If there is a good chance on attending, leave your name on, I would rather have it there than not and you show up. I need a car number for Mordy Dunst if he is still planning on attending. Chris Marx, I need to know what car you want next to your name on the back of the shirt. July 7th is the cut off date for the shirts. Right now I have orders for 148 shirts and 69 people have expressed their intention of running the 2013 Kastner Cup. After July 7th you can still sign up for the race, your name just wont be showing up on the back of the shirt. Thanks, _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 30 07:46:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC0B4043E for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 07:46:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m09.mx.aol.com (omr-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 166D540431 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 07:46:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.9]) by omr-m09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id CDB82700000AE; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 09:46:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtb004a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtb004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.205]) by mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id A560BE000082; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 09:46:21 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 09:46:21 -0400 (EDT) To: vangoughv@hotmail.com, jason@multivintage.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1372599981; bh=ClsYiG42S9ENq/6Zfoxx52mqNPJB7jHV/E5pp8g7MYE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cyDJuEXb/W6MS1Jcg5wW12bBWwQZA7UItM6NOlNda+hUR62ZTtBx/Rll1ZfLLLNzs v1JmytoTaYyX/FWrzBHftN4zBTVF/fN0FtLthpcUHk/nWZp5Gr4iIOAJofZT3JCnGL nqMRh9lgwHMOOFNYEkKM6ttHoTKD5Gg3wWnqiBKo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290951d036ad398f Cc: fot-bounces@autox.team.net, FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Late arrival at the KCup? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 06/30/2013 7:42:04 AM Central Daylight Time, vangoughv@hotmail.com writes: > I really hope you make it Steve two of us are coming in from Ontario and > counting on a flock of GT6's. should be awesome. > > Speaking of GT6s, the current issue of TRIUMPH WORLD has an extensive 'buyer's guide' article on the TRIUMPH GT6. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive