From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 1 04:16:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B67DD4040C for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 04:16:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from icp-osb-irony-out7.external.iinet.net.au (icp-osb-irony-out7.external.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.224]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2EA1403D8 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 04:14:52 -0600 (MDT) d="scan'208,217";a="137709523" Received: from unknown (HELO PetersTowerPC) ([114.198.66.49]) by icp-osb-irony-out7.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 01 Jul 2013 18:14:48 +0800 From: "Peter Vucinic" To: "'FOT'" Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 20:14:45 +1000 Thread-Index: Ac52Q886D2watXeQTsSjWQnrt4Pozw== Content-Language: en-au Subject: [Fot] TR Gearbox Main Bearings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Lister, Anyone have a supplier who can actually supply TR gearbox main bearings in the RHP or NSK brand? These are extremely difficult to source here in Australia. Not to mention the exorbitant price when you do find them. RHP - MJ1-1/4NR Bearing Many thanks Kind Regards Peter Vucinic TR-4 _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 1 07:25:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E01429BA for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 07:25:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f51.google.com (mail-ee0-f51.google.com [74.125.83.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A50542963 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 07:16:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f51.google.com with SMTP id e52so2078019eek.10 for ; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 06:16:14 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=DVYvvC4zmfjXUnrbA+OAqatS+IB4KBV8T/ck9vFqegE=; b=Km9yr2uQgquzQCFVrsmWJl+2IBG95l7vKwAFGvfVS3S7yQafCL++EhAln3nKRYx5Ax XE3gvk79l2nwP5Hp8e/uROnRy3U8JYxAedY0GnfZBL0ts8g/YoRH5I3NPtF3a6XtOuEK M+tcVL0BwMMDnWIJ8gDW2gbVWLSGucpSx+3jw5K2pDbChWY3FMxFNkF+6U0gAR/x7kjJ eMEc8rZ/MbMdgXnNh5o2eeaYCLpvKkkQFgqxyNtukUrh8Kd+QWrCrBapXFjm1wFfX1cz +WKTt1+jqvYKBGHpD1KL1B4O3+Ah2yMXq2Hg2/rmQNlWEdSi1I793r6DRIdjEvNeD9Uv 4TRQ== b13mr21492351eev.0.1372684574513; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 06:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.174.159.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i2sm29764599eeu.4.2013.07.01.06.16.12 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 01 Jul 2013 06:16:13 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <6d817.757eefb9.3f0190ad@aol.com> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 15:16:19 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac51mErB7GFCaOrZQjy48ekcG8PJ0QAxM1mA Content-Language: de Subject: [Fot] 50 Years Zolder GP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is race 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZNgU90Xw1Q Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 1 07:27:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7446429C6 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 07:27:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f51.google.com (mail-ee0-f51.google.com [74.125.83.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E04429B7 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 07:25:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f51.google.com with SMTP id e52so2027000eek.38 for ; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 06:25:50 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=CcPtS9OZoGlvrhjyFr/XfQjzaQhXga+E8jV9iQBkVMk=; b=HQB8pwhYHIiz4LmfM1JWwsUpnFnT9LYBZbJIXwthrNku7vS6AWc3m6IivIFyEYRJkm 8qhwMDboDtX+mgH3nGgZE1PLI7FoXqS25ZLiG7LNJ0OWSumka/bmA4fh+PpBViRw0xh7 h+GIAyh6KWfojYVCKR4zUzy9gsJyepxFgSRRoUJpJkrKYGeiBZtwFq7Sg/fTSgHbt1oj FSDipuNdayufyM21oyWJ74lhSN4152jblaR52mLF4FLCWLf+J4eJTmtM4w1jt+Bfr+ze 1l5k2ehcSVX4iVNXajVteqWF9W/M1ak0vpuKW3xkPyehOEWZnKF4GnNQaUSsBushRn+G iBNw== w2mr20444951eej.126.1372685150169; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 06:25:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.174.159.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bj46sm29803659eeb.13.2013.07.01.06.25.48 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 01 Jul 2013 06:25:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'marty sukey'" References: , Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 15:25:54 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac51l0PmObTmHtQLR+Oe/qmdc+Le9gAxgpCQ Content-Language: de Cc: 'FOT' Subject: Re: [Fot] LAST CALL Kastner Cup Shirts and Drivers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Marty, Greg said he is willing to lend me his car. So a TR4 can be shown on the shirt? I still hope on another ride if anybody would like to share their cars. Are there any entry cars to enter the paddock zone? As I never have been to USA everything will be completely new to me (the money, how to drive on American roads, the food) Are there any numbers I could call if I get lost somehow or arrested? Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von marty sukey Gesendet: Sonntag, 30. Juni 2013 15:37 An: FOT Betreff: [Fot] LAST CALL Kastner Cup Shirts and Drivers ITS TIME! If you want a shirt, order it now. If you plan on racing at Road America in September and have not given me you name and car details for the back of the shirt, do it now. If you gave me your name for the back of the shirt and know for sure you are not coming let me know now so I can remove it. If there is a good chance on attending, leave your name on, I would rather have it there than not and you show up. I need a car number for Mordy Dunst if he is still planning on attending. Chris Marx, I need to know what car you want next to your name on the back of the shirt. July 7th is the cut off date for the shirts. Right now I have orders for 148 shirts and 69 people have expressed their intention of running the 2013 Kastner Cup. After July 7th you can still sign up for the race, your name just wont be showing up on the back of the shirt. Thanks, _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 1 07:58:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE6A429F4 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 07:58:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m03.mx.aol.com (omr-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B80E42980 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 07:53:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.9]) by omr-m03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E2F907003738C; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 09:53:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtb004a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtb004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.205]) by mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 3AF16E00008B; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 09:53:35 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 09:53:34 -0400 (EDT) To: tr4racing@googlemail.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1372686815; bh=P45UxjA3fi3Gm4Vj1V4wZDvptEkrJZV+f1tgeIVR32Y=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xic9MaAodPJNjdTWYo+tOTxDKb9ZGZLBzU516qPBfFaK7IIupvveaCu4zM4QPVq9+ N2jXy5GXQGaWQfuKhvbUKntpo1W+evXrmLHZJHSIcD/TE9s0nkdZiYcj22kMdVdqy0 smqdys7JSqHV7z69w0CnTF1wW2RHUF8zXJQ1ldMk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290951d189df286e Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] LAST CALL Kastner Cup Shirts and Drivers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 07/01/2013 8:26:23 AM Central Daylight Time, tr4racing@googlemail.com writes: > <<< Are there any entry cars to enter the paddock zone? The competition paddock is open to all. >>> Because parking is eventually > limited, depending upon the entry size, sometimes they limit the number > of street cars that can get into the competition paddock. In this case they > issue 'Paddock Passes' for the street cars. If you are listed on a race > team, they're usually available. > <<< As I never have been to USA everything will be completely new to me (the > > money, how to drive on American roads, the food). >>> I think you will find people here in the Midwest to be very fair, honest, > hospitable and glad to see you. Your English is very good, and while it > may miss some local colloquialisms, you'll do fine and have fun doing it. > We drive British sports cars, but on the right side of the road. Watch > your speed. Sheboygan county has German roots. > <<< Are there any numbers I could call if I get lost somehow or arrested? >> > > > For sure, try not to get arrested. The FOT is not organized enough to handle International Incidents. Many, if not most, rental cars these days have built in GPS systems. I don't see you getting into any circumstances that you can't handle on your own. Just be aware of the various local addresses you want to be able to get to, so you can enter them into the GPS system. Almost everyone has a cell phone these days. Check to see if your cell phone has 'service' here in Wisconsin. Then get a couple of numbers from other FOTers to hang onto just in case. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 1 07:59:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905E4429F3 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 07:59:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm3-vm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm3-vm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.121]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC6DC42980 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 07:54:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.167] by nm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jul 2013 13:54:04 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.162] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jul 2013 13:54:04 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1028.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jul 2013 13:54:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 20602 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Jul 2013 13:54:04 -0000 s=s1024; t=1372686844; bh=kFL5vlom8yMycE1V5+9Tr9J0cLIDxoo9sWzI8MZmd6E=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kczpxlEswCB9GcG2nx7mM4YYfDTB+wC8VzOd0H6/WWN7YZSi/ddvhIQ9fiFgXfDKFqrZ4wLVYrvPJjalAx94shleHSY5GpRm1M06njrx5w+IcT8TUyO8dysLFwrhiUl0je+KdEA/XBxG+Q0yzYBSbVoXPGkHGeu3CVZW9oQdyw0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ajY35H9R1xS/fEipJmIW0ZodiV3liBTTQnkPM4QK1Z0LP1bYDdWbbVyyTnLEs0WQzcm4h8+781WwOSIE4obq722gdDeRr6cstgt0zNTTt1ci1J8r/TfqMh1MBS+un4v325yDYsDfLE4ZqwwzntFbCk5PnYqEhlpXOVT+HZN/aoQ= ; Received: from [140.254.19.190] by web184903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 06:54:03 PDT TWFydHksIEkgcGxhbiBvbiBnb2luZy4gU3BpdGZpcmUsIHBhbGUgeWVsbG93LCBudW1iZXIgOC4gRGFsZSBPZXN0ZXJsZQoKIAoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KIEZyb206IE1hZE1hcnggPHRyNHJhY2luZ0Bnb29nbGVtYWlsLmNvbT4KVG86ICdtYXJ0eSBzdWtleScgPHRybWFydHlAaG90bWFpbC5jb20.IApDYzogJ0ZPVCcgPGZvdEBhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldD4gClNlbnQ6IE1vbmRheSwgSnVseSAxLCAyMDEzIDk6MjUgQU0KU3ViamVjdDogUmU6IFtGb3RdIExBU1QgQ0FMTCBLYXMBMAEBAQE- References: , <000701ce765e$865e8d70$931ba850$@com> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 06:54:03 -0700 (PDT) From: dale oesterle To: MadMarx , 'marty sukey' Cc: 'FOT' Subject: Re: [Fot] LAST CALL Kastner Cup Shirts and Drivers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Marty, I plan on going. Spitfire, pale yellow, number 8. Dale Oesterle ________________________________ From: MadMarx To: 'marty sukey' Cc: 'FOT' Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] LAST CALL Kastner Cup Shirts and Drivers Hi Marty, Greg said he is willing to lend me his car. So a TR4 can be shown on the shirt? I still hope on another ride if anybody would like to share their cars. Are there any entry cars to enter the paddock zone? As I never have been to USA everything will be completely new to me (the money, how to drive on American roads, the food) Are there any numbers I could call if I get lost somehow or arrested? Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von marty sukey Gesendet: Sonntag, 30. Juni 2013 15:37 An: FOT Betreff: [Fot] LAST CALL Kastner Cup Shirts and Drivers ITS TIME! If you want a shirt, order it now. If you plan on racing at Road America in September and have not given me you name and car details for the back of the shirt, do it now. If you gave me your name for the back of the shirt and know for sure you are not coming let me know now so I can remove it. If there is a good chance on attending, leave your name on, I would rather have it there than not and you show up. I need a car number for Mordy Dunst if he is still planning on attending. Chris Marx, I need to know what car you want next to your name on the back of the shirt. July 7th is the cut off date for the shirts. Right now I have orders for 148 shirts and 69 people have expressed their intention of running the 2013 Kastner Cup. After July 7th you can still sign up for the race, your name just wont be showing up on the back of the shirt. Thanks, _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 1 08:15:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 403CC429E3 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 08:15:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.centene.com (mail.centene.com [204.145.114.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D43427EA for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 08:11:55 -0600 (MDT) d="scan'208";a="18750384" Received: from unknown (HELO OFLEXML03P.centene.com) ([10.4.85.52]) by OFLMAIL01P_LAN.centene.com with ESMTP; 01 Jul 2013 09:11:55 -0500 Received: from OFLEXML05P.CENTENE.com (10.4.84.54) by OFLEXML03P.centene.com (10.4.85.77) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.309.2; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 09:11:55 -0500 Received: from OFLEXMB04P.CENTENE.com ([fe80::d44f:50ee:124a:c0a0]) by OFLEXML05P.centene.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 09:11:55 -0500 From: John Wiley To: 'marty sukey' Thread-Topic: [Fot] LAST CALL Kastner Cup Shirts and Drivers Thread-Index: AQHOdZdD72vB8X64X06wND3dzaPSyplQJakAgAAH3YD//7C9wA== Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 14:11:54 +0000 References: , <000701ce765e$865e8d70$931ba850$@com> <1372686843.18079.YahooMailNeo@web184903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.4.85.6] Cc: 'FOT' Subject: Re: [Fot] LAST CALL Kastner Cup Shirts and Drivers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I am planning on coming. 1965 TR4 red number 65 John C. Wiley Mobile: 614-307-7436 email: jwiley@centene.com This email, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this email is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete the email immediately. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dale oesterle Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 9:54 AM To: MadMarx; 'marty sukey' Cc: 'FOT' Subject: Re: [Fot] LAST CALL Kastner Cup Shirts and Drivers Marty, I plan on going. Spitfire, pale yellow, number 8. Dale Oesterle ________________________________ From: MadMarx To: 'marty sukey' Cc: 'FOT' Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] LAST CALL Kastner Cup Shirts and Drivers Hi Marty, Greg said he is willing to lend me his car. So a TR4 can be shown on the shirt? I still hope on another ride if anybody would like to share their cars. Are there any entry cars to enter the paddock zone? As I never have been to USA everything will be completely new to me (the money, how to drive on American roads, the food) Are there any numbers I could call if I get lost somehow or arrested? Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von marty sukey Gesendet: Sonntag, 30. Juni 2013 15:37 An: FOT Betreff: [Fot] LAST CALL Kastner Cup Shirts and Drivers ITS TIME! If you want a shirt, order it now. If you plan on racing at Road America in September and have not given me you name and car details for the back of the shirt, do it now. If you gave me your name for the back of the shirt and know for sure you are not coming let me know now so I can remove it. If there is a good chance on attending, leave your name on, I would rather have it there than not and you show up. I need a car number for Mordy Dunst if he is still planning on attending. Chris Marx, I need to know what car you want next to your name on the back of the shirt. July 7th is the cut off date for the shirts. Right now I have orders for 148 shirts and 69 people have expressed their intention of running the 2013 Kastner Cup. After July 7th you can still sign up for the race, your name just wont be showing up on the back of the shirt. Thanks, _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dale.oesterle@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwiley@centene.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication contains information intended for the use of the individuals to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from other disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any disclosure, printing, copying, distribution or use of the contents is prohibited. 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Thank you. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 1 09:33:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D1C4299A for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 09:33:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail176c2.megamailservers.com (mail176c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB841427C9 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 09:27:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail176c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r61FR3d6002896 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 11:27:09 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 11:27:03 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac52b3A3mFQCKzusTCWhWpXYRxmwww== a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=fS6QTw3T8uGY-6RLSY0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: [Fot] Mid Ohio Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mid Ohio was wet, damp, sunny back and forth every few hours each day. I think this is the most difficult course I have yet encountered, blind corners, off camber turns, slick pavement and a lot of drivers with local knowledge of the track all added up to a tense weekend for me. There were over 50 cars in our run group. Sat's race was dry and with the chicane being used I turned 1:57, speed on back straight 112mph. Eric Wood in an 1800cc Alfa Duetto was first in Eprod @ 1.48.9 and beat 10 Cprod cars! I believe SVRA has that car in the wrong class. Bill Tobin was the only other TR in the event. Jeff Snook was there with his Lotus XI, TR3 still being "fixed". It rained Sat. nite and the track was damp for our race and all times were down about 3 sec. Passed a MG in madness and he hit me in the left rear going under the bridge and got back past me, never could get back up to him for the rest of the race. There were a lot of TR's in the spectators, hope they enjoyed seeing one of them competing & thanks to the FOT'ers who stopped by to say hello. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 1 09:46:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5320F42A07 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 09:46:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B22C427D2 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 09:37:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f54.google.com with SMTP id t10so2153539eei.13 for ; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 08:37:35 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=kvWxr6V2/lcKdQa2TQ0SRJP+MJ5v1rF9qGGo/zUhE5g=; b=LWoeKY19+UQ4QhArSTr/dxloknq3SNYt9AyJz9F0Hv1aubutpP1Z4gHzcnS05Vf0H3 hWZ6ZYVo6ut63djOjOztGZN+VKmFjlXrwG6f1g6z+vcIM/a3fMBtvrRZGyJPCQqFkWJG KnYo3hDGCSDS9XHFM+BK8k5iyWTSkhoC6ZBAKzmNxYFI/ssF6guKE0e0hGieWgs2RlDy ShrQ+rbO147FZgslDpGEOs7LbM7vQRtfY3RIdiwBckcQMtl9ZVmfzOydlND18gI0tCai Ms6UVRqUTE9PEhxBYhsA8qEYlgh/ZGPWNKdc3HhrMDuXt/OG0zQW9m9/KsUGXx5+ROp2 bEmA== Mon, 01 Jul 2013 08:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.174.159.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id n5sm30525614eed.9.2013.07.01.08.37.33 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 01 Jul 2013 08:37:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <6d817.757eefb9.3f0190ad@aol.com> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 17:37:41 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac51mErB7GFCaOrZQjy48ekcG8PJ0QAxM1mAAATgL7A= Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] 50 Years Zolder GP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is race 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZNgU90Xw1Q Race 2, after repaired the oil pump: http://youtu.be/Ys3tojcTZTc Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 1 09:47:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9CB542A0F for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 09:47:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s36.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s36.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.111]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81DE428A7 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 09:42:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W31 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s36.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 1 Jul 2013 08:42:34 -0700 From: marty sukey To: john hasty , FOT Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 11:42:34 -0400 References: <5C989CFA7A484E8E8678B0FF9B750556@gdhs.local> FILETIME=[9B44C340:01CE7671] Subject: Re: [Fot] Mid Ohio Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi John. Didn't get to see you at the event, see you in September. Mark Craig was there (Mid-Ohio) in his Spitfire also. A lot of water sure came down in that area over the weekend. We ran into flooded roads on the way home saturday night. Marty > From: jhhasty@gdhs.com > To: fot@autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 11:27:03 -0400 > Subject: [Fot] Mid Ohio > > Mid Ohio was wet, damp, sunny back and forth every few hours each day. I > think this is the most difficult course I have yet encountered, blind > corners, off camber turns, slick pavement and a lot of drivers with local > knowledge of the track all added up to a tense weekend for me. There were > over 50 cars in our run group. Sat's race was dry and with the chicane > being used I turned 1:57, speed on back straight 112mph. Eric Wood in an > 1800cc Alfa Duetto was first in Eprod @ 1.48.9 and beat 10 Cprod cars! I > believe SVRA has that car in the wrong class. Bill Tobin was the only other > TR in the event. Jeff Snook was there with his Lotus XI, TR3 still being > "fixed". It rained Sat. nite and the track was damp for our race and all > times were down about 3 sec. Passed a MG in madness and he hit me in the > left rear going under the bridge and got back past me, never could get back > up to him for the rest of the race. There were a lot of TR's in the > spectators, hope they enjoyed seeing one of them competing & thanks to the > FOT'ers who stopped by to say hello. > > John H. Hasty > Attorney At Law > Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. > 719 East Boulevard > Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 > Tele: (704) 372-5600 > Fax: (704) 372-4601 > E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com > www.gdhs.com > > PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is > intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that > is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. > If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message > and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. > > IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations > regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, > any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) > is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of > (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, > marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter > addressed herein. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 1 09:47:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA5BF429F1 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 09:47:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp450.redcondor.net (smtp450.redcondor.net [208.80.204.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208AA4042C for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 09:45:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cgp.netins.net ([167.142.228.73]) by smtp450.redcondor.net ({4ad064a1-3618-4418-b4ee-963987bff397}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20130701154545827; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 15:45:45 +0000 Received: from [208.126.78.151] (account riverside@southslope.net HELO rileyPC) by cgpf1.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.13) with ESMTPA id 557032474; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 10:45:36 -0500 From: To: "john hasty" , References: <5C989CFA7A484E8E8678B0FF9B750556@gdhs.local> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 10:45:35 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Mid Ohio Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Eric Wood is a very fast Alfa driver. art de armond -----Original Message----- From: john hasty Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 10:27 AM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Mid Ohio Mid Ohio was wet, damp, sunny back and forth every few hours each day. I think this is the most difficult course I have yet encountered, blind corners, off camber turns, slick pavement and a lot of drivers with local knowledge of the track all added up to a tense weekend for me. There were over 50 cars in our run group. Sat's race was dry and with the chicane being used I turned 1:57, speed on back straight 112mph. Eric Wood in an 1800cc Alfa Duetto was first in Eprod @ 1.48.9 and beat 10 Cprod cars! I believe SVRA has that car in the wrong class. Bill Tobin was the only other TR in the event. Jeff Snook was there with his Lotus XI, TR3 still being "fixed". It rained Sat. nite and the track was damp for our race and all times were down about 3 sec. Passed a MG in madness and he hit me in the left rear going under the bridge and got back past me, never could get back up to him for the rest of the race. There were a lot of TR's in the spectators, hope they enjoyed seeing one of them competing & thanks to the FOT'ers who stopped by to say hello. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3345 / Virus Database: 3204/6453 - Release Date: 07/01/13 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 1 10:01:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637EE428F2 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 10:01:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.centene.com (mail.centene.com [204.145.114.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9908403E8 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 09:50:59 -0600 (MDT) d="scan'208";a="15319144" Received: from unknown (HELO OFLEXML02P.centene.com) ([10.4.84.53]) by oflmail02p_lan.centene.com with ESMTP; 01 Jul 2013 10:50:40 -0500 Received: from OFLEXMB04P.CENTENE.com ([fe80::d44f:50ee:124a:c0a0]) by OFLEXML02P.centene.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 10:50:40 -0500 From: John Wiley To: john hasty , "fot@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Fot] Mid Ohio Thread-Index: Ac52b3A3mFQCKzusTCWhWpXYRxmwwwAAvlzg Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 15:50:39 +0000 References: <5C989CFA7A484E8E8678B0FF9B750556@gdhs.local> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.4.85.6] Subject: Re: [Fot] Mid Ohio Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It also takes a lot of laps to get fast with the nuances you mentioned and is a lot of fun in the rain if you have those laps of experience! Stock engine Miatas with only suspension mods and tires are running 1:45's John C. Wiley Mobile: 614-307-7436 email: jwiley@centene.com This email, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this email is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete the email immediately. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of john hasty Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 11:27 AM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Mid Ohio Mid Ohio was wet, damp, sunny back and forth every few hours each day. I think this is the most difficult course I have yet encountered, blind corners, off camber turns, slick pavement and a lot of drivers with local knowledge of the track all added up to a tense weekend for me. There were over 50 cars in our run group. Sat's race was dry and with the chicane being used I turned 1:57, speed on back straight 112mph. Eric Wood in an 1800cc Alfa Duetto was first in Eprod @ 1.48.9 and beat 10 Cprod cars! I believe SVRA has that car in the wrong class. Bill Tobin was the only other TR in the event. Jeff Snook was there with his Lotus XI, TR3 still being "fixed". It rained Sat. nite and the track was damp for our race and all times were down about 3 sec. Passed a MG in madness and he hit me in the left rear going under the bridge and got back past me, never could get back up to him for the rest of the race. There were a lot of TR's in the spectators, hope they enjoyed seeing one of them competing & thanks to the FOT'ers who stopped by to say hello. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. 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Thank you. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 1 11:02:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256BA42966 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 11:02:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail176c2.megamailservers.com (mail176c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CC440531 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 10:57:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail176c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r61Gv0eD001187 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 12:57:04 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 12:57:02 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac52fAHRaaSsRuV6RdOiUEj+u5F/nQ== a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=_g2ctA5OBBQhJV2krxcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: [Fot] Rear End Ratios Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The overall ratio we have in the TR3A is 3.7 achieved with a 4.1 rear end and overdrive. At VIR, Road Atlanta, Savanna and Mid Ohio, all with long straights, we are turning 6200 at the end of each of them. Elkhart Lake has longer straights and we are concerned that we might need a taller rear end gear. If we put 3.7 rear end gears in we would have an overall ratio of 3.66 which I believe would produce 800rpm less or the same as turning 7000rpm with the 4.1. I can't turn 7000 with a stock crank so; Does anyone with experience at Elkhart have a suggestion? What do you run there? Thanks guys/gals...... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. 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IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 1 14:06:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F3942904 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 14:06:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm25-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm25-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.62.72]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21DE942797 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 14:00:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.169] by nm25.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jul 2013 20:00:32 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.197] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jul 2013 20:00:32 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.50] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jul 2013 20:00:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp103.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jul 2013 20:00:32 -0000 UlJKA3kc8HPc98_4.OqKi_P7Mr.g6zQk6YIcT13vkZ2SPkDT2Aw04oeK3FLb iymMND8VzpVeRDFTOsSVJm6s74KEv7wkfwYP1GoVT6bdqFDDPrr2X3S_Smvh GjORDX3zlCCRVxID4Zd2wv8mOIPa0RrHHLMWKKJe.OMEngLu19tUIqPmnKCE U9HIUiLSiG7rI57Vkt2UYTfVYipYkHRU6fjC0hQr3ep10WThVOGav76xOlIE rDwSq61.XNIEhsKbSDLzBK5VLKyul9IRlsAsCpr.XHCKPFplkWUo_vKWjJhF 7nsZIH8FAfgu64I8sa1edPbetpYq_loLB6F8wNq_8K3sg9XjK4r039FO8ta3 rveyDgSR8LXHrSGIo2lZOJXkx1cCoOr2G08EpnBjARIfr5l2bFWWjDCxnj2y paUwkiKAcHZfGDPEmuhCc4lPWlJmcSHeijOBsvZbJ.lq3m_l2owQ4p9rWZ2z XN1NJ5E2cOk.D1H8xicpDnq.vdEZtqQIuixThZ_xhRo2w_8djZw-- plain) by smtp103.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 01 Jul 2013 13:00:32 -0700 PDT Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2013 15:00:46 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: fot@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear End Ratios Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net John, A 4:1 rear with overdrive (0..82) is 3.28. Unless you've changed it since I had it, it has a 4.55 rear, which gives 3.73 in overdrive. This is close to the standard top gear of 3.7 which most racers run. You must be making good power to reach 6200 at the end of a long straight. I think there is something like a 4.3 R&P ratio available, but I think I would stick with the current setup and live with 6200. Some guys spin there motors a lot higher than that Larry Young On 7/1/2013 11:57 AM, john hasty wrote: > The overall ratio we have in the TR3A is 3.7 achieved with a 4.1 rear end > and overdrive. At VIR, Road Atlanta, Savanna and Mid Ohio, all with long > straights, we are turning 6200 at the end of each of them. Elkhart Lake has > longer straights and we are concerned that we might need a taller rear end > gear. If we put 3.7 rear end gears in we would have an overall ratio of > 3.66 which I believe would produce 800rpm less or the same as turning > 7000rpm with the 4.1. I can't turn 7000 with a stock crank so; Does anyone > with experience at Elkhart have a suggestion? What do you run there? > Thanks guys/gals...... > > John H. Hasty _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 1 18:28:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC4E42797 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 18:28:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm20-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm20-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.29]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB4240539 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 18:24:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.194] by nm20.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jul 2013 00:24:03 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.50] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jul 2013 00:24:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp103.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jul 2013 00:24:03 -0000 H3QEDbuPg_7Wes.jM2JwlDECgvBMP45_nk6tAZpYX3RQV6yGgtxkIFdlMqoD fhvx8YrH_gipN.3l8LROyc6_9w8ifgDM.TSjyF5ZLoAKJ53Ih2_HCKDoYBhm DKqXBlQ3Vvs0UKoKu6S5Kp_NwZc1.PqAAzAo8cNuszyBzlGEMUQal25YRb9G u4rvm3FFa3I3Ljkxdv_d1RzXtAT8pZ_GOpJJGt0JPCTrfMiRFknlrzH2nUWa gZUMWNnqFDF32pu_dUIOuHTrA8rAbeiNqkeLX6yiH5nUXCcZxT9iYwjmg55R 98orW9zsmbVPiqaHnvJE7E4X8XZ.Qa3cEFSmINZ2owlN9vYSyWN2fmys9Yxn 7Q_og4IypVI1WMaQAHeelDoxlp4YXAr8HYbKwW8AjbLnL9IN1sFLCJVFxlQ7 QN.Z3cDkV0IedsXEXCJ0WMac2bvBekLve0jrXxER8zNJzNIl21WTQKxRsfjK V3XWpmifUIcgDmhOAeAPDbRWepzBC44V_ICi62k66jMg48Zrcj5Zmxu2JqZB a_1_qx1u0pbP9z4_X4kt5WJoKG4QZrDwbAkdwl2mxLoalbcifHwvHy2GIig- - plain) by smtp103.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 01 Jul 2013 17:24:03 -0700 PDT Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2013 19:24:02 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: Kas Kastner , FOT@autox.team.net, John Hasty References: <51D1DFEE.1070909@pobox.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear End Ratios Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I would also consider using the OD in in other than top gear. Quick shifting overdrive is sometimes more convenient in a tight and busy situation. It can also give you better gearing by splitting gears. At Hallett there is one very tight turn and with a close ratio gearbox, first is too low and 2nd is too high but 1st overdrive is just right. I didn't have an overdrive the one time I ran at VIR, but I was so busy during the lead up to the the straight, I had wished I had an overdrive, which only required the flick of a switch. That was one data point that lead to me to reinstalling the overdrive. Again at Hallett, the overdrive was really only needed on the straight (maybe), but I noticed my son, Tom, would use it all over the track. It is just more convenient. Larry On 7/1/2013 3:25 PM, Kas Kastner wrote: > That 4.55 will make you fly up the hill to the start line and off a > lot of the slow corners. Live with it. > > *Never be beaten by equipment.* > > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Larry Young > John, > A 4:1 rear with overdrive (0..82) is 3.28. Unless you've changed > it since I had it, it has a 4.55 rear, which gives 3.73 in > overdrive. This is close to the standard top gear of 3.7 which > most racers run. You must be making good power to reach 6200 at > the end of a long straight. I think there is something like a 4.3 > R&P ratio available, but I think I would stick with the current > setup and live with 6200. Some guys spin there motors a lot > higher than that > Larry Young > > On 7/1/2013 11:57 AM, john hasty wrote: > > The overall ratio we have in the TR3A is 3.7 achieved with a > 4.1 rear end > and overdrive. At VIR, Road Atlanta, Savanna and Mid Ohio, > all with long > straights, we are turning 6200 at the end of each of them. > Elkhart Lake has > longer straights and we are concerned that we might need a > taller rear end > gear. If we put 3.7 rear end gears in we would have an > overall ratio of > 3.66 which I believe would produce 800rpm less or the same as > turning > 7000rpm with the 4.1. I can't turn 7000 with a stock crank so; > Does anyone > with experience at Elkhart have a suggestion? What do you > run there? > Thanks guys/gals...... > > John H. Hasty > > _______________________________________________ > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 1 19:45:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725784279C for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 19:45:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail176c2.megamailservers.com (mail176c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFDC840C02 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 19:41:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.227.195.48] (223.sub-174-237-46.myvzw.com [174.237.46.223]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail176c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r621flCN020911 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 1 Jul 2013 21:41:50 -0400 References: <51D1DFEE.1070909@pobox.com> <51D21DA2.5040105@pobox.com> From: John Hasty Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 21:41:45 -0400 To: Larry Young a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=LN3i4F1/k/EajsIx1o7IVw==:17 a=ybZZDoGAAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=1eBET2Nvz8tB4YWO-X4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=qIVjreYYsbEA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=sHOWtd-e_atbVIrNX18A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=f9IvlqbC3UWEGVln:21 a=LN3i4F1/k/EajsIx1o7IVw==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear End Ratios Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net OK you guys. Thanks. What you are telling me is to get off my ass & drive the car! But it is really hard @ 77 to learn too many new tricks. I've only been at this 4 wheel stuff for 2 seasons but can bet I am gonna try. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 1, 2013, at 8:24 PM, Larry Young wrote: > I would also consider using the OD in in other than top gear. Quick shifting overdrive is sometimes more convenient in a tight and busy situation. It can also give you better gearing by splitting gears. At Hallett there is one very tight turn and with a close ratio gearbox, first is too low and 2nd is too high but 1st overdrive is just right. I didn't have an overdrive the one time I ran at VIR, but I was so busy during the lead up to the the straight, I had wished I had an overdrive, which only required the flick of a switch. That was one data point that lead to me to reinstalling the overdrive. Again at Hallett, the overdrive was really only needed on the straight (maybe), but I noticed my son, Tom, would use it all over the track. It is just more convenient. > Larry > > On 7/1/2013 3:25 PM, Kas Kastner wrote: >> That 4.55 will make you fly up the hill to the start line and off a lot of the slow corners. Live with it. >> Never be beaten by equipment. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Larry Young wrote: >>> John, >>> A 4:1 rear with overdrive (0..82) is 3.28. Unless you've changed it since I had it, it has a 4.55 rear, which gives 3.73 in overdrive. This is close to the standard top gear of 3.7 which most racers run. You must be making good power to reach 6200 at the end of a long straight. I think there is something like a 4.3 R&P ratio available, but I think I would stick with the current setup and live with 6200. Some guys spin there motors a lot higher than that >>> Larry Young >>> >>> On 7/1/2013 11:57 AM, john hasty wrote: >>>> The overall ratio we have in the TR3A is 3.7 achieved with a 4.1 rear end >>>> and overdrive. At VIR, Road Atlanta, Savanna and Mid Ohio, all with long >>>> straights, we are turning 6200 at the end of each of them. Elkhart Lake has >>>> longer straights and we are concerned that we might need a taller rear end >>>> gear. If we put 3.7 rear end gears in we would have an overall ratio of >>>> 3.66 which I believe would produce 800rpm less or the same as turning >>>> 7000rpm with the 4.1. I can't turn 7000 with a stock crank so; Does anyone >>>> with experience at Elkhart have a suggestion? What do you run there? >>>> Thanks guys/gals...... >>>> >>>> John H. Hasty >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 1 19:59:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E795427BD for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 19:59:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9044272A for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 19:57:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id vDkD1l0090EPchoAFDxZ7G; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 01:57:33 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id vDxY1l00C4L5TyG8MDxY4Q; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 01:57:33 +0000 From: Bud R To: FoT Triumph , triumphs@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 19:57:31 -0600 s=q20121106; t=1372730253; bh=PFHicmh5QkaP5/IxF279yS0x+Cet/vvioBg6lKjwAig=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=FIKTgYpEKaHZ34kleBSQa3GsCwwDeN9qiWfY0nNadU1Kxq/aXRPZN+EGXebwa7qaX DMDwPZPvD8UHYC/UOvjgdgGaBnUOIfjFGjXydYkLArSNfQCY0JE/B0ZoQLyOPnCmBU 9DF93qYS4pqHeJl0P9ihsA8aJQ57JiRwZdO89MyiAQrbk9Pxld+5y6k2sUhFtiFSmC GfVk86HsDeXrQIUuT5+X70zijWN3bV34DaeyhdMPvS3WKRVIiYbMAQtTQ+htT/NjfP qo+hXamTelCaAeE1Nup8MC8Y9d821cOLggkQu9rVbA45nWKa/LZELFc60jAr4Iqdxq hQr0DkOaYT3cw== Cc: 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Stanpart Numbers? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Can anyone tell me what car used a Stanpart # 213747 connecting rod? It came out of a 70 Spitfire engine but that number doesn't match the Stanpart numbers I've seen in Kas' books and search engines didn't yield much help. I suspect it's a substitute but would like to know what. Is there a site with Stanpart numbers or are they in the old parts catalogs? There's an unbelievably long number/letter combination cast into the rod on the opposite side of the 213747 Stanpart number that seriously goes from one end to the other. I'm not going to bother even typing the crazy thing since a search for the other number was fruitless. Thanks Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 1 20:51:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52FE842729 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 20:51:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy3-pub.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy3-pub.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.30.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0304540653 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 20:51:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 6721 invoked by uid 0); 2 Jul 2013 02:51:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy2.unifiedlayer.com) (66.147.243.71) by gproxy3.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 2 Jul 2013 02:51:18 -0000 {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Received: from just64.justhost.com (just64.justhost.com [173.254.28.64]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.74); Tue, 02 Jul 2013 02:51:18 GMT Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=62298 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UtqgX-0005zN-UD; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 20:51:18 -0600 Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2013 21:51:15 -0500 To: "john hasty" , From: Tony Drews References: {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear End Ratios Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I only run a couple hundred RPM higher at the end of the straights at RA than at VIR or Atlanta. With a 4.1 and OD and 60 series tires, I'm at 5300 to 5500 coming into turn 5 and if I take the kink right I am about there going into Canada Corner. I think I was in the 5200 to 5300 range when I was battling you on the back straight at VIR. You should be fine. Tony Drews At 11:57 AM 7/1/2013, john hasty wrote: >The overall ratio we have in the TR3A is 3.7 achieved with a 4.1 rear end >and overdrive. At VIR, Road Atlanta, Savanna and Mid Ohio, all with long >straights, we are turning 6200 at the end of each of them. Elkhart Lake has >longer straights and we are concerned that we might need a taller rear end >gear. If we put 3.7 rear end gears in we would have an overall ratio of >3.66 which I believe would produce 800rpm less or the same as turning >7000rpm with the 4.1. I can't turn 7000 with a stock crank so; Does anyone >with experience at Elkhart have a suggestion? What do you run there? >Thanks guys/gals...... > >John H. Hasty >Attorney At Law >Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. >719 East Boulevard >Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 >Tele: (704) 372-5600 >Fax: (704) 372-4601 >E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com >www.gdhs.com > >PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is >intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that >is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. >If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any >dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have >received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message >and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. > >IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations >regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, >any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) >is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of >(i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, >marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter >addressed herein. >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 1 21:35:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F4942797 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 21:35:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F0540533 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 21:35:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.73]) by qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id vFG81l0021afHeLA7Fb7N6; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 03:35:07 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id vFb61l00D4L5TyG8dFb6Vm; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 03:35:07 +0000 From: Bud R To: FoT Triumph , triumphs@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 21:35:06 -0600 s=q20121106; t=1372736107; bh=A5X6MyzmNYO3/n1kIWvKwr3AkcOyQmtKLZ7eqEPnlaQ=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=QUi63phhA8AYckSciu60kYYYfQMCMwgoAHfZhAFjv86T8GkzpHCu0IDo55hC2w74S D1nBFtSRfqN5sm3c4yRJO8nBPaBAjzLa+LP87rlrOvoLiZjis/lUcixOUezXMc2Z54 Qsj+4afcFUpuv7J2zvFwX2HV0A/CkRpUUupGoicFJSPxINju3S8kFnXHhmJ8bVl274 A0v52S1Lg/qFBoqE7MkfDQNhBl/HEG52cgJ3xrzKuJmnzN5HAF+D/nVK1JWPF0xc0V 1AHvRw34Xb/oLSh8jIZXDg87RLaWfwcuKiJCvj1z2Ctt63XIfMbLr+VdGYuELQzjPC VlI5n9Jv59WGA== Subject: [Fot] Stanpart Numbers? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Can anyone tell me what car used a Stanpart # 213747 connecting rod? It came out of a 70 Spitfire engine but that number doesn't match the Stanpart numbers I've seen in Kas' books and search engines didn't yield much help. I suspect it's a substitute but would like to know what. Is there a site with Stanpart numbers or are they in the old parts catalogs? There's an unbelievably long number/letter combination cast into the rod on the opposite side of the 213747 Stanpart number that seriously goes from one end to the other. I'm not going to bother even typing the crazy thing since a search for the other number was fruitless. Thanks Bud Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 2 01:56:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1F440654 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 01:56:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.o2.co.uk (vader.london.02.net [82.132.130.150]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B838840550 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 01:56:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.29.206.118] (82.132.238.221) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.5.140.03) id 51D1BE430016C887; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 08:55:59 +0100 References: <20130702025137.E5C8042758@autox.team.net> From: TR4 Tony Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 08:55:19 +0100 To: Tony Drews Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear End Ratios Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Another option may be to run a different overdrive ratio, depending on the type of unit you have. I'm running an A type with a 28percent reduction and I believe that Chris Marx is running a j type which gives 25, a few other ways to drop the final drive and max revs. Regards Tony Sent from my iPhone On 2 Jul 2013, at 03:51, Tony Drews wrote: > I only run a couple hundred RPM higher at the end of the straights at RA than at VIR or Atlanta. With a 4.1 and OD and 60 series tires, I'm at 5300 to 5500 coming into turn 5 and if I take the kink right I am about there going into Canada Corner. I think I was in the 5200 to 5300 range when I was battling you on the back straight at VIR. > > You should be fine. > > Tony Drews > > At 11:57 AM 7/1/2013, john hasty wrote: >> The overall ratio we have in the TR3A is 3.7 achieved with a 4.1 rear end >> and overdrive. At VIR, Road Atlanta, Savanna and Mid Ohio, all with long >> straights, we are turning 6200 at the end of each of them. Elkhart Lake has >> longer straights and we are concerned that we might need a taller rear end >> gear. If we put 3.7 rear end gears in we would have an overall ratio of >> 3.66 which I believe would produce 800rpm less or the same as turning >> 7000rpm with the 4.1. I can't turn 7000 with a stock crank so; Does anyone >> with experience at Elkhart have a suggestion? What do you run there? >> Thanks guys/gals...... >> >> John H. Hasty >> Attorney At Law >> Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. >> 719 East Boulevard >> Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 >> Tele: (704) 372-5600 >> Fax: (704) 372-4601 >> E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com >> www.gdhs.com >> >> PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is >> intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that >> is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. >> If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any >> dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. 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Needless to say, I've never run out of rpms on a straight....anywhere. Richard Taylor #196 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of TR4 Tony Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 3:55 AM To: Tony Drews Cc: Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear End Ratios Another option may be to run a different overdrive ratio, depending on the type of unit you have. I'm running an A type with a 28percent reduction and I believe that Chris Marx is running a j type which gives 25, a few other ways to drop the final drive and max revs. Regards Tony Sent from my iPhone On 2 Jul 2013, at 03:51, Tony Drews wrote: > I only run a couple hundred RPM higher at the end of the straights at > RA than at VIR or Atlanta. With a 4.1 and OD and 60 series tires, I'm at 5300 to 5500 coming into turn 5 and if I take the kink right I am about there going into Canada Corner. I think I was in the 5200 to 5300 range when I was battling you on the back straight at VIR. > > You should be fine. > > Tony Drews > > At 11:57 AM 7/1/2013, john hasty wrote: >> The overall ratio we have in the TR3A is 3.7 achieved with a 4.1 rear >> end and overdrive. At VIR, Road Atlanta, Savanna and Mid Ohio, all >> with long straights, we are turning 6200 at the end of each of them. >> Elkhart Lake has >> longer straights and we are concerned that we might need a taller >> rear end gear. If we put 3.7 rear end gears in we would have an >> overall ratio of >> 3.66 which I believe would produce 800rpm less or the same as turning >> 7000rpm with the 4.1. I can't turn 7000 with a stock crank so; Does anyone >> with experience at Elkhart have a suggestion? What do you run there? >> Thanks guys/gals...... >> >> John H. Hasty >> Attorney At Law >> Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. >> 719 East Boulevard >> Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 >> Tele: (704) 372-5600 >> Fax: (704) 372-4601 >> E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com >> www.gdhs.com >> >> PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any >> attachments) is >> intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain >> information that >> is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. >> If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that >> any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If >> you have received this communication in error, please erase all >> copies of the message >> and its attachments and notify us immediately. 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I believe it is from an A/H 100-4 or 100-6. I bought it from John Esposito. Found it quite strange because the O/D ratio was actually higher then the next gear ie. 2nd O/D was taller then 3rd straight; 3rd O/D was taller then 4th straight. Your shifting became 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 2nd O/D, 4th, 3rd O/D, 4th O/D. Quite illogical as Spock would say. I removed it and swapped for a TR overdrive. The 28% is still doing duty in a street car where the owner was worried for nothing more than rpm reduction. -Ed- ________________________________ From: TR4 Tony To: Tony Drews Cc: "" Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 2:55 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear End Ratios Another option may be to run a different overdrive ratio, depending on the type of unit you have. I'm running an A type with a 28percent reduction and I believe that Chris Marx is running a j type which gives 25, a few other ways to drop the final drive and max revs. Regards Tony Sent from my iPhone On 2 Jul 2013, at 03:51, Tony Drews wrote: > I only run a couple hundred RPM higher at the end of the straights at RA than at VIR or Atlanta. With a 4.1 and OD and 60 series tires, I'm at 5300 to 5500 coming into turn 5 and if I take the kink right I am about there going into Canada Corner. I think I was in the 5200 to 5300 range when I was battling you on the back straight at VIR. > > You should be fine. > > Tony Drews > > At 11:57 AM 7/1/2013, john hasty wrote: >> The overall ratio we have in the TR3A is 3.7 achieved with a 4.1 rear end >> and overdrive. At VIR, Road Atlanta, Savanna and Mid Ohio, all with long >> straights, we are turning 6200 at the end of each of them. Elkhart Lake has >> longer straights and we are concerned that we might need a taller rear end >> gear. If we put 3.7 rear end gears in we would have an overall ratio of >> 3.66 which I believe would produce 800rpm less or the same as turning >> 7000rpm with the 4.1. I can't turn 7000 with a stock crank so; Does anyone >> with experience at Elkhart have a suggestion? What do you run there? >> Thanks guys/gals...... >> >> John H. Hasty >> Attorney At Law >> Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. >> 719 East Boulevard >> Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 >> Tele: (704) 372-5600 >> Fax: (704) 372-4601 >> E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com >> www.gdhs.com >> >> PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is >> intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that >> is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. >> If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any >> dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. 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Get your order in now! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello FOT: I just got word today that the patches are being shipped to me today. I should be mailing them out to those who have ordered them after the holiday week. Thanks to those who added a bit to help out with our project! I have copied my original email outlining pricing and ordering instructions. About half have been sold so act quick to get yours! The final proof is pictured below. Hello all. Hopefully there is growing excitement over patches because I just ordered 100 of them. They are slightly larger than the previous run in order to show more detail of our colorful logo (2.5" x 3.5" cut to shape). Pricing: One for $6 $5 each for each additional patch. Price includes shipping. There is a bit of margin built in as fundraising for our TR4 Lemons racecar project. Our car fund money is putting up the capital and we hope to raise a little $ (we might see $200 out of this) to help with our purchase of seat belts. Not only will you get a great patch for your jacket, driving suit (patch is not fireproof, wear at your own risk), or hat, you will be supporting the appearance of the first TR4 in 24 Hours of Lemons history (there have been TR7s, a TR6, and a couple Spitfires). And since we'll be buying seat belts with the proceeds, you might just save a life! (thanks in advance for that one!) Payment: Two options - 1) Paypal CASH ONLY to apackard68@att.net as money sent to family or friends. Please don't pay with a credit card and force me to pay a bunch of fees on all these transactions. 2) Check made payable to "SilverScreen Triumph" and mailed to: Andy Packard SilverScreen Triumph 56 Hagen Oaks Ct Alamo, CA 94507 Be sure to note how many you want with a clearly written or typed address. Including your email will also be helpful for me to clarify any information. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 2 10:23:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D016942791 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 10:23:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm10.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm10.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3AD040540 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 10:14:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.192] by nm10.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jul 2013 16:14:45 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.49] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jul 2013 16:14:45 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp102.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jul 2013 16:14:45 -0000 s=s1024; t=1372781685; bh=HNv5QECTRzun4ukRlPI63GlYJeBlIQWWqQ9nYlEPRxE=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:Content-Type:Subject:Date:References:To:Message-Id:Mime-Version:X-Mailer; b=vKBpLa9Tat2v6LUnCfs6Isj/R9bARwmYa6czZEIe1N3lcxyXGKF2VYyk/cMrke/lT7Cqz+u6Q8HoXuftMuhl477Skk1Ru0XO5ohweokKxm6+IFwLcAvaBPluinUMmy2yKOGdK0XNV8Zgqs2yZZrespmeiDS86q5hcRgOAQHA170= PKrn.ZtFtFAr8E0_so994oq4Ut0C6B6c63PkzViZ9fp3voMrDYNETYzKojBe E00m97.mHuFJZv9Z3s9_BPIIBa3uSOL_JeXAu1utu401W1AZ6oymdnKncGG5 sdSAzD1UlTmTW6W1b6OIM8k8Ls90SkryOV.6_rmWCQxIKnxf2C.LrRpnQJLA 6uedmfVYTuQ1MIkIKjBzSK_ZqIUHMnvXsfal9a50UVnbF9749nRsTGMqvOCZ RgwxTbI5Km9FJmP98XcPYxurW.y2SlpZsR9290Jho5CiIKJMiCkotlFP6Ywm z9UmeI.atnSp0ypZ46hTWyjTAod9LJ.L.SZOaATpHZ3uWVXW780AYqb1WBmm wNU1FEojbMlDw2lCEIYlwV6P5xU9KFrnD99gfA4O_r1Dm66SCPDZ2KskaljR erihWJruETHcJyqfc.mK1RezOkcs_89qKw7KxecsuQIOabPbenQmlmg.y5S3 1JJ8SUXMHqqnE.ki4jEIRvkkJYcTBG.4c1Pvdfrug7rRNRiD_ plain) by smtp102.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 02 Jul 2013 09:14:45 -0700 PDT From: Andrew Packard Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 09:14:39 -0700 References: <9F091F4D-A4AE-4390-A999-BC3E74F1CEDA@att.net> To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Patches are being shipped to me! Get your order in now! - with photo (hopefully) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > Hello FOT: > > I just got word today that the patches are being shipped to me today. I should be mailing them out to those who have ordered them after the holiday week. Thanks to those who added a bit to help out with our project! > I have copied my original email outlining pricing and ordering instructions. About half have been sold so act quick to get yours! The final proof is pictured below. > > > > Hello all. > Hopefully there is growing excitement over patches because I just > ordered 100 of them. They are slightly larger than the previous run in order > to show more detail of our colorful logo (2.5" x 3.5" cut to shape). > > Pricing: > One for $6 > $5 each for each additional patch. > Price includes shipping. > > There is a bit of margin built in as fundraising for our TR4 Lemons racecar project. Our car fund money is > putting up the capital and we hope to raise a little $ (we might see $200 out > of this) to help with our purchase of seat belts. > > Not only will you get a great patch for your jacket, driving suit (patch is not fireproof, wear at > your own risk), or hat, you will be supporting the appearance of the first TR4 > in 24 Hours of Lemons history (there have been TR7s, a TR6, and a couple > Spitfires). And since we'll be buying seat belts with the proceeds, you might > just save a life! (thanks in advance for that one!) > > Payment: > Two options - > 1) Paypal CASH ONLY to apackard68@att.net as money sent to family or friends. > Please don't pay with a credit card and force me to pay a bunch of fees on all > these transactions. > 2) Check made payable to "SilverScreen Triumph" and mailed to: > Andy Packard > SilverScreen Triumph > 56 Hagen Oaks Ct > Alamo, CA 94507 > > Be sure to note how many you want with a clearly written or typed address. > Including your email will also be helpful for me to clarify any information. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 2 10:24:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3560542791 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 10:24:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm13-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm13-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944E242729 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 10:24:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.201] by nm13.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jul 2013 16:24:31 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.51] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jul 2013 16:24:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp104.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jul 2013 16:24:31 -0000 s=s1024; t=1372782271; bh=vsjszkY/hZVEUrFtZXazOkFpa47vqDerrxDlJoIudBk=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To:Mime-Version:X-Mailer; b=H7bP85dmVqYOKKV7hg3cbJxGv+ZH9TwH61EvfoR2kMw20A9kcLZTOCypDXnIdNbW5UKnt9a3UXCeo5Bz6KdhxWNzn4iZQXXgMgcFAhNglxvgPn3spMSq4npAyBiyD5dd/eYJu38w2vjbUcXJ2hM/BHdLxkywgL3h26tCY3rGjXU= WCBGOY5grMEgVPJmrComXPIdGaZ2NYgWSMXGVHPN2oiuuwnHEXeXHjyvz8ST FzAesdQ.sbzbI.DkOxx7PFeeubJAjS8X3JVUFSS5_.6eBNwRX4d4IRcwQRjq w0zzq0kDYzAFXGakCQSHbgwIqVxYBkfdrG2I2B11Oj0UyCjihOgf0FJiNnjN g05Eut9nVC4jrCapeuVVts0SXwXwI_NQLROjG3LNTE8gqjkxiWnLLaW7Oojn 5HL1Ivs7u_0f0uy16_5xE0IfT9Oo5Rf8n.9c.IpmOV8300Ns9IHUg8fDwxnR YwB.aEDHTUMUrZ.PFv259aTK3UZD9LMHWlLrk7fPOtm9v0UNhsbxrgBtgDSp dreJf4p92pEIs3_eigGjE1V2duwAIdFJOvDrEQBqn8xSx2ttg63kCloN_Byn xO5RGn6ilX._4jUiIKwiPKOIksSo2SJpcbaRGVj15KqFipyyDvOvRcV3_I.M th5dEyHcIp5fefZCHewiMmxm0i6sq.laghZZPCw2Lavzpq_c- plain) by smtp104.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 02 Jul 2013 09:24:31 -0700 PDT From: Andrew Packard Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 09:24:26 -0700 To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Picture of patch is on FOT Facebook page Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I just remembered that we can't attach pictures to the autox emails. Go to the FOT facebook page to see the proof of the logo patch. Thanks, _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 2 13:15:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C2A427E0 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 13:15:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.q.com (smtp.quartz.synacor.com [205.169.121.111]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CD564056E for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 13:07:42 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=MVt/OeM/O+V7psr6YXG+1g==:117 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=Nfe9w3SYhjkA:10 a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=5uzyEDg2IGAA:10 a=BM2Wo2QsAAAA:8 a=8I1nCXMETVoA:10 a=G2jNLQNBcHhS6YvXDKoA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=1vjCUxJ0p_EA:10 a=z6yNctOIV6MA:10 a=P4ZhEEMpjI1-Y-qwqN4A:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=i4PDXFCCRecA:10 a=5Pg0b9m7yCIA:10 Authentication-Results: smtp03.quartz.synacor.com smtp.mail=cofrog@q.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp03.quartz.synacor.com header.from=cofrog@q.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp03.quartz.synacor.com: transitional domain q.com does not designate 10.30.7.251 as permitted sender) Received: from [10.30.7.251] ([10.30.7.251:60750] helo=md04.quartz.synacor.com) by smtp.q.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id 72/19-23579-DF423D15; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 15:07:41 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 15:07:41 -0400 (EDT) From: cofrog@q.com To: triumph fot (Win)/6.0.8_GA_2685) Subject: [Fot] Manifold Gaskets TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Uncle Jack used to sell thick manifold gaskets for the TRactor motors. Is Tony or anybody else selling them now? Thanks, Dan Forgey _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 2 13:28:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB22E4288E for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 13:28:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy4-pub.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy4-pub.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.23.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 38E9740E16 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 13:24:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 8127 invoked by uid 0); 2 Jul 2013 19:24:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy2.unifiedlayer.com) (66.147.243.71) by gproxy4.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 2 Jul 2013 19:24:24 -0000 {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Received: from just64.justhost.com (just64.justhost.com [173.254.28.64]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.74); Tue, 02 Jul 2013 19:24:24 GMT Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=50552 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uu6Bc-0007Yu-2c; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 13:24:24 -0600 Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 14:24:21 -0500 To: cofrog@q.com,triumph fot From: Tony Drews synacor.com> References: <894011006.1738035.1372791954767.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> <805976494.1738063.1372792061190.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] Manifold Gaskets TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You can buy them directly from the manufacturer: http://catalog.remflex.com/category_s/123.htm Tony Drews At 02:07 PM 7/2/2013, cofrog@q.com wrote: >Uncle Jack used to sell thick manifold gaskets for the TRactor >motors. Is Tony or anybody else selling them now? > > >Thanks, > > >Dan Forgey >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 2 13:45:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0B2428F2 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 13:45:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm13-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm13-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F1A40540 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 13:45:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.127] by nm13.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jul 2013 19:45:28 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.98] by tm2.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jul 2013 19:45:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp118.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jul 2013 19:45:27 -0000 yicz8_SlqsMBkbphAzQb8o1cSeJ9IbxEXG5ZrbinORAgaH58LXhTLz7RaqvC OfTe.QXeeTFCIwrgMDN1egpSEUIjt8W._ZCMMLKhte_nkJi0RDObm0ApPJ7m eIuX4gUkO0wS74jtcJgJzhP1ZUBhsw1DZzRwcC7IsWE9YIs8oQMGEDkpYrIA KXpyiA4zC6.15fXXeoLCz4AT_Fhydqmi72In_v4xPMkFYyN2p6xafWZnYrOY aX.uI9woKdTfqUW5tDbkZx.0DP75ssrTgqbX6p8gNExSJwKZtguKck7oJvim ZEPJCm50c9Q_YitInwderDW2bAd7RHN7fogJt.frqEFIESmE214STkB7Qm2M VgBUigouCMcfdB8VFg2Emq0Tl1kIwUlnpC2NSI3hhrwCqr7pTF6dF61KgbDX aT.v2HwWPSAss9m5Soza._5OfSNY.wblEPEpHjGZtDMKuvZiHNhUcNBgM1g5 _460otKaZAzFSnnKzoGXRhobVDpMcdzpjF7s0tSdfNkuBD.IIbExbF_cHX30 atwwUdqgovVQQpxhArfNHg2IUpFFZGQQOczT_IRkmSEQDl_DjTLXEOwjWdFG dBA_Z41C2uvwe10rTLSD07I9COl5LLIl050wW plain) by smtp118.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 02 Jul 2013 19:45:27 +0000 UTC Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 14:45:28 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: FOT@autox.team.net References: <20130702025137.E5C8042758@autox.team.net> <6CCBD98A-041C-443E-B541-03CDCE402F17@virgin.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear End Ratios Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a very easy change, once you get the overdrive out of the car. Just change the sun and planet gears. I believe the big Healeys used the higher ratio. I personally think the closer stock Triumph 22 percent is the best for racing even though it makes some of the gear combinations the same overall ratio when you combine it with a close ratio gear set. However, I would dearly love to have a 28 percent overdrive in my street TR250. Sam Clark and I once ran into a 28 percent gear set that had been running in a Triumph. I wish I had swapped those gears. There are a lot of 75 mph (read 80) speed limits in this part of the country. Larry Young On 7/2/2013 2:55 AM, TR4 Tony wrote: > Another option may be to run a different overdrive ratio, depending on the > type of unit you have. > > I'm running an A type with a 28percent reduction and I believe that Chris > Marx is running a j type which gives 25, a few other ways to drop the final > drive and max revs. > > Regards > > > Tony > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2 Jul 2013, at 03:51, Tony Drews wrote: > >> I only run a couple hundred RPM higher at the end of the straights at RA > than at VIR or Atlanta. With a 4.1 and OD and 60 series tires, I'm at 5300 to > 5500 coming into turn 5 and if I take the kink right I am about there going > into Canada Corner. I think I was in the 5200 to 5300 range when I was > battling you on the back straight at VIR. >> You should be fine. >> >> Tony Drews >> >> At 11:57 AM 7/1/2013, john hasty wrote: >>> The overall ratio we have in the TR3A is 3.7 achieved with a 4.1 rear end >>> and overdrive. 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Yeah, I did my first autocross in years in Waco last month with the street TR250. It's like Goldilocks and the Three Bears. 1st was too low, 2nd was too high, but 1st overdrive would have been just right. Maybe I will rewire the TR250 the same as the John's TR3. There is a very simple way to wire them using only one switch on reverse. On 7/2/2013 8:29 AM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 07/01/2013 7:28:09 PM Central Daylight Time, > cartravel@pobox.com writes: > > >> At >> Hallett there is one very tight turn and with a close ratio gearbox, >> first is too low and 2nd is too high but 1st overdrive is just right. > > > "Overdrive in 1st!" What a concept. Mike Belfer would be rolling > over in his grave to hear that. He used to lecture me about not using > it in 2nd. But it sure worked slick in traffic coming out of Turn 5 > at Road America. > > My overdrive unit has been on the shelf for years now. No longer > searching for faster laps. Just trying to enjoy still being out there. > > Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 2 15:02:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25DCB42A13 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 15:02:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A555E4051F for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 14:55:27 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=BTnPqyKnbZXIPm/oZNGf5w==:17 a=E6CSvCWOokgA:10 a=-tpIQRoxGGwA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=0QMZtG_r2mEA:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=UJ8bwzwUAAAA:8 a=BM2Wo2QsAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=DyMgSWZyTC8Hl-Qsdr8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=c9lbj3N9xu8A:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 a=d8-XDScYJTYA:10 a=BTnPqyKnbZXIPm/oZNGf5w==:117 Received: from [166.137.151.231] ([166.137.151.231:60053] helo=[10.227.229.54]) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id A3/15-15971-A3E33D15; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 20:55:26 +0000 References: <894011006.1738035.1372791954767.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> <805976494.1738063.1372792061190.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> <20130702192843.E8AB042731@autox.team.net> From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 15:15:44 -0500 To: Tony Drews Cc: triumph fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Manifold Gaskets TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've got another source as well. So far just have a couple sets of untested prototypes. I planned to do a write up to plug the company once I have a few races on the gaskets. I have not needed them yet. One set will be going on Pops red No 14 and will be tested at TWS in September. Contact me off list for details. Greg On Jul 2, 2013, at 2:24 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > You can buy them directly from the manufacturer: > http://catalog.remflex.com/category_s/123.htm > > Tony Drews > > At 02:07 PM 7/2/2013, cofrog@q.com wrote: >> Uncle Jack used to sell thick manifold gaskets for the TRactor motors. Is Tony or anybody else selling them now? >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Dan Forgey >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 2 19:29:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9CD42A18 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 19:29:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm9-vm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm9-vm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.192]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D293F42980 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 19:29:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.166] by nm9.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jul 2013 01:29:16 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.149] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jul 2013 01:29:16 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1025.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jul 2013 01:29:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 81295 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Jul 2013 01:29:15 -0000 s=s1024; t=1372814955; bh=9XEZdhuEujWLmOFCrmGeKBf/YJI/ugcsjs3avvGx/Rk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AILy1ZiEpPfM833olzgNuU+Qvy7ReV4zUg9ANkmKkhU3J0gtA2fuKVWxb4VYchw7orfE4cR6+nFQkuRcEad0lO2YXb2wfTVzGJWWP2rkfVGze5dgZOuSeO/LWYv0GzqwfoFnrP88I7D+37z2ZaShCt7MiFW7R3YjSQBOUbAYgY4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IJgVQ+CdNk5uSMtqJHm9OV+EDhtmUQOPtI7hZ5ir/4Efbel4uO+ncAC3qZCgItbDPuwF7qmSA+hj69+CNFonvDbST6RXtKSG8o1IyhPQC64R1QaIpT5iopeNV8A5FscuSTogWozvAygTvQxSmAiIA63vQYogBChk+0cJwvs5Zn8= ; bJulUeROi9TvlfsDFYlFPlfP1zHcrEpEx6z3UZ4X65bTbHYUluO4y4l98bM3 kUmkpFZNACZEASflIoAt0sLGFP_jzQEIUzb4nJJm_onALXK7cWiymVl_3qBc yY.p7oO3AOH6eGeOZxs3In0o2LUpAm1mUsqkHFHOK3_29vTxrEJ7YL1Ukfg6 6itVl5VBZsshsbH0JgbcfCgLf2W6qKz5LN4e5Ul5wlR7CbmeDMNphRkwLVp9 SZwcU7pzrJB0teXUoqeNHH0.CZ3w5ca97qbT2gbRFMhf3dWI15tGPCJ6sqJA 5tc1KRPNGDVPRjCkNUvzoqEIjQOUArMG028f.kbjkPKjln8idWxwgpl1W91W lPfCuKY_xN5tTmQtz2rp32Lg.1pbrI9FDn0cslkkUQMBSloYpv8y0jfqhkD. 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UVXah1eA1u36Pi3pHdyK_ Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web181401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 18:29:15 PDT TGFycnk6CkkgZGlkIHRoZSB3aXJpbmcgdGhyb3VnaCB0aGUgcmV2ZXJzZSBzd2l0Y2ggb24gUmF5IEpvc2V5J3MgU3BpdFNpeC4gSSBkaWRuJ3QgaGF2ZSB0aGUgc3BlY2lhbCBicmFja2V0IHVzZWQgb24gR1Q2IHRyYW5uaWVzIGZvciB0aGUgTy9EIHN3aXRjaGVzIHNvIEkgdXNlZCB0aGUgcmV2ZXJzZSBhcyBhIGRpc2FibGVyIGluc3RlYWQgb2YgdGhlIG5vcm1hbCBzd2l0Y2hlcyBhcyBlbmFibGVycy4gSXQgZG9lcyBhbGxvdyBPL0QgaW4gZXZlcnkgZm9yd2FyZCBnZWFyLiAKR2V0IHRoaXMuLi5JIGJ1aWwBMAEBAQE- References: <51D33184.5020009@pobox.com> Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 18:29:15 -0700 (PDT) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: Larry Young , "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear End Ratios Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Larry: I did the wiring through the reverse switch on Ray Josey's SpitSix. I didn't have the special bracket used on GT6 trannies for the O/D switches so I used the reverse as a disabler instead of the normal switches as enablers. It does allow O/D in every forward gear. Get this...I built him a GT6 O/D tranny I had sitting around the shop, then installed a 3.27/1 third member. He cruises down the highway at 2000 - 2200 rpm. in 4th O/D -Ed- ________________________________ From: Larry Young To: FOT@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear End Ratios That was with a close ratio gear set that has a high 1st gear and Hallett had one turn that is called "Stop and turn left". Yeah, I did my first autocross in years in Waco last month with the street TR250. It's like Goldilocks and the Three Bears. 1st was too low, 2nd was too high, but 1st overdrive would have been just right. Maybe I will rewire the TR250 the same as the John's TR3. There is a very simple way to wire them using only one switch on reverse. On 7/2/2013 8:29 AM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 07/01/2013 7:28:09 PM Central Daylight Time, > cartravel@pobox.com writes: > > >> At >> Hallett there is one very tight turn and with a close ratio gearbox, >> first is too low and 2nd is too high but 1st overdrive is just right. > > > "Overdrive in 1st!" What a concept. Mike Belfer would be rolling > over in his grave to hear that. He used to lecture me about not using > it in 2nd. But it sure worked slick in traffic coming out of Turn 5 > at Road America. > > My overdrive unit has been on the shelf for years now. No longer > searching for faster laps. Just trying to enjoy still being out there. > > Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 2 21:33:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E335C42A56 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 21:33:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D29EA42A41 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 21:33:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130703033329.WVT10448.mta21.charter.net@imp10>; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 23:33:29 -0400 Received: from Davelaptop ([24.183.5.60]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id vfZU1l00Q1Hi4JY05fZVds; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 23:33:29 -0400 a=jtv4gu8sId/vfiD9Sa13Cg==:17 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=GLtAxNHB49QA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=xJtAYPJwc5-nFb2WO-UA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=jtv4gu8sId/vfiD9Sa13Cg==:117 From: "David Kettler" To: "Mark A. Eden" , References: Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 22:33:28 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Flight Plan Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You may also want to check the Green Bay Airport. About the same travel time as Milwaukee or slightly less. More limited flights though. Dave Kettler Sheboygan Falls, WI -----Original Message----- From: Mark A. Eden Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 3:43 PM To: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Flight Plan Mark: OK, as an airline pilot formerly based in Milwaukee now based in Chicago, commuting to both from Denver, I believe I can speak definitively on this subject. MILWAUKEE!!! Stay as far away from Chicago as possible. Unless you are given the ticket, any possible cost savings realized by going in/out of Chicago is NOT worth the added aggravation, period. Milwaukee is easy in easy out, (and no @#%$& Illinois toll roads). Getting to and from MKE to Road America is simple. I have about a half dozen other reasons I would avoid Chicago but I don't want this to sound like any more of a rant than it does now! (LOL!) Cheers! Mark Eden TR4s #357/#123 Spitfire #42 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dkettler1@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 3 03:11:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F306D42AEA for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 03:11:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.o2.co.uk (vader.london.02.net [82.132.130.150]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB664038C for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 03:10:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.19.57.116] (82.132.219.125) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.5.140.03) id 51D1BE430047E128; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 10:10:58 +0100 References: <51D33184.5020009@pobox.com> From: TR4 Tony Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 10:10:50 +0100 To: Larry Young Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear End Ratios Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi again fellas You need to be aware that using overdrive in 1st gear with an a type unit will give it a very short life. Apart from the fact that you will cane the hell out of the bearings as you load up on exit, the less obvious issue is the rear bearing set in the a type unit, which is rated to about 9000 rpm. This bearing set runs at 3 times engine speed. So do the maths, but in a 6000 rpm max engine, it's double the designed load rate on those bearings. With a steel crank and 8500 rpm plus it's nearly 3 times. I regularly run upwards of 6000 rpm. If you run at full revs in any gear for any pronged time this bearing seizes and the overdrive cooks, and using it on first gets it to that failure point very quickly. its worth remembering that the inside of the overdrive does not recover coolness very easily as its snuck up inside the car, so the heat issue is cumulative - ie once it gets hot it stays hot and the heat builds. I've had my gearbox so hot after a half hour rest on a rally that it was a gloves on job to check the oil level and the forward UJ on the prop. The answers are firstly a higher rated bearing set to deal with those extra revs (and by that I mean larger individual bearings with bigger gaps between them for the oil to flow through and get that cooling done), secondly and / or a gearbox oil cooler. I was getting about 200 miles running out of an a type because of this revs issue, firstly manifesting itself in the speedo drive melting like wax on a stick (so both my speed and tripmeter failed - which is what alerted me to the problem) and secondly by the cage round the bearing melting and causing the unit to seize (oh and the smell and racket wasn't great either) - the first time the gearbox and overdrive unit were scrap, the second I was a little more clued up and got it back to base intact, albeit utterly knackered. So, if you do plan to use OD on first in an a type certainly, do make sure the unit is suitably uprated otherwise you'll be taking it out again shortly afterwards. Regards Tony Sent from my iPhone On 2 Jul 2013, at 21:01, Larry Young wrote: > That was with a close ratio gear set that has a high 1st gear and > Hallett had one turn that is called "Stop and turn left". Yeah, I did > my first autocross in years in Waco last month with the street TR250. > It's like Goldilocks and the Three Bears. 1st was too low, 2nd was too > high, but 1st overdrive would have been just right. Maybe I will rewire > the TR250 the same as the John's TR3. There is a very simple way to > wire them using only one switch on reverse. > > On 7/2/2013 8:29 AM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: >> In a message dated 07/01/2013 7:28:09 PM Central Daylight Time, >> cartravel@pobox.com writes: >> >> >>> At >>> Hallett there is one very tight turn and with a close ratio gearbox, >>> first is too low and 2nd is too high but 1st overdrive is just right. >> >> >> "Overdrive in 1st!" What a concept. Mike Belfer would be rolling >> over in his grave to hear that. He used to lecture me about not using >> it in 2nd. But it sure worked slick in traffic coming out of Turn 5 >> at Road America. >> >> My overdrive unit has been on the shelf for years now. No longer >> searching for faster laps. Just trying to enjoy still being out there. >> >> Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 3 07:43:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA8442BA9 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 07:43:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d09.mx.aol.com (omr-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C58042B36 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 07:42:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.3]) by omr-d09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 21F9B7008E39A for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 09:36:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 6E61BE0000AB for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 09:36:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 08:36:16 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1372858591; bh=WcyF95kxyMb371XFnmzrf5ZFe2gwjzZCmN9ptenspbs=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=dc4fI4QoOgFF/II2CS3blA3wQvOf5L8fjx9iu277QslZal/HMxWG0KU96ct1SYuhg z3fpazCwnc2vb89aXi6gRNKboiQl+PAw5NQQznIz1Frb97OjGm1Jx4L4sUYinc24Vm tFhDSDR7YsWFc0PTeOA8eoPCfs/HcJbr1rN1Y8IQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290351d428dd4b9e Subject: [Fot] Randy Williams. 2012 KCUP recipient Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fot: Does anyone have contact information for Randy? Of course we will want to know if he will be with us at Road America. Thanks, Joe A. Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 3 09:31:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6EA442C21 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 09:31:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from roproxy2-pub.unifiedlayer.com (roproxy2-pub.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.18.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D8CA542BC1 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 09:25:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 17998 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jul 2013 15:19:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy2.unifiedlayer.com) (66.147.243.71) by roproxy2.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 3 Jul 2013 15:19:55 -0000 {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Received: from just64.justhost.com (just64.justhost.com [173.254.28.64]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.79); Wed, 03 Jul 2013 15:19:55 GMT Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=56692 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UuOqZ-0001IG-IL; Wed, 03 Jul 2013 09:19:55 -0600 Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 10:19:52 -0500 To: Joe Alexander ,fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews References: <043BF39C-2C37-4630-B598-EA3F59B66799@cs.com> {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] Randy Williams. 2012 KCUP recipient Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net "Randy Williams" Tony Drews At 08:36 AM 7/3/2013, Joe Alexander wrote: >Fot: > >Does anyone have contact information for Randy? > >Of course we will want to know if he will be with us at Road America. > >Thanks, > >Joe A. > >Sent from my iPad >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 3 10:34:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B902F42DD6 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 10:34:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.199]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E98D34272F for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 10:31:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from wm17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (wm17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.10.24]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0MPD005CPCJRMI00@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for FOT@autox.team.net; Wed, 03 Jul 2013 12:31:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [67.83.138.143] by webtop.webmail.optimum.net with HTTP; Wed, 03 Jul 2013 12:31:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 12:31:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Redmond To: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Subject: [Fot] ARE Rear Trans mount Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fot, Just received ARE new rear trans mount for the TR3. B It looks great and seems to be well made! Thanks Joe and Sean. B Will advise on use once I get the car back together. B Should be about 2-3 years! Thanks again Todd _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 3 10:40:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F2F42C75 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 10:40:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5209742B6B for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 10:40:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.67]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 44A8A700AB03A; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 12:40:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id DFE76E000363; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 12:40:45 -0400 (EDT) References: <5e13cae8.4a7f.13fa55f778a.Webtop.0@optonline.net> From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 11:40:42 -0500 To: Todd Redmond x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1372869646; bh=uPhfLr38GOV7aIdipfLSiEfNfCYs2ib0jLy8nR12Nt4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=JvDNOj7t14iJQnESukFqSuFLxWry65HNX3WnJL/AS7/rEgiCQAxsGqg/kbwBN7gF4 AueAwOPbwxsMruPoCNE+dZbeSAvqa1WA57FrJVEQux4DfYGY8khMqPqXLzqiWVaegO YAwWD9o+Fl4bd1waiE3yF1JLJY+mYAH3p+iffkfM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294351d4540d2266 Cc: Sean Alexander , "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] ARE Rear Trans mount Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Todd, Interest is strong and Sean is taking orders. This is his project. There is a lot of development in these. They are going on some amazing TRs. Sent from my iPad On Jul 3, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Todd Redmond wrote: > Fot, > > > Just received ARE new rear trans mount for the TR3. B It looks great and > seems to be well made! > Thanks Joe and Sean. B Will advise on use once I get the car back > together. B Should be about 2-3 years! > > > Thanks again > Todd > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 3 16:47:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9B24314F for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 16:47:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm12-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm12-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.246]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7EC142E29 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 16:47:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.155] by nm12.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jul 2013 22:47:04 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.54] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jul 2013 22:47:04 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp107.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jul 2013 22:47:04 -0000 RNnGl8KNtVgmkDqvIUHnhRKPI1shLpZQoeTScV_qLtx3kj8z87StESsY3Aw0 O78OApt6Mit3OfKUQXKQDsMRoPndhFT5vaAS2aZCXloDxUjyu9y5OwypDrGK hEaP8KU5jCv.b4BIeL39bSP2BA3Et6HvoOlm5m3HvNhLAiTpf15LMcyY0Jx_ _u7FgtK7jzHmur_4nMcpsR8rBqnKXYphgnZx8ra2Hv5qbLXRyji0J4s7.6dW jrntCbwMOK0x85pQidDYRVK4DoYLCkfatvFzy5BP8OdToU7bQJDY.k4hAhav bcYY345_1uX2_rLK_im1URf4A1gIc9eTYqNhZaFWxFRxClak_FvofN8oesTJ pPhFdHZMDfOOEV4UVM3X14aBwrUbORHzpknMbY4_dfVY4OHuoZJW9MrBpgBo mDELUMao0WJRpj9.5OioZ_4OtmhoJbevN33NNHheRh5TVHcuxg4KX1liRpo4 RsLfp63u9GpLV0HaKKiVIKfQPyTgrKnsoqjPKTw9W5nZdpa5z6FiXOP53D39 5iP2uVACOj5kNIPKEW2adyG2.Jt8J62LDLlgBPUchKE0GslrRxfwJ3_eWdA- - plain) by smtp107.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 03 Jul 2013 15:47:04 -0700 PDT Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 17:47:07 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: TR4 Tony References: <51D33184.5020009@pobox.com> <0F3E9407-C8D0-4F1A-BDE2-866DCFCBBD2D@virgin.net> Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear End Ratios Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I did not follow your logic concerning the overdrive bearings. Are you referring the the two rear bearings that support the annulus and turn at drive shaft speed? They will be turning slower when overdrive is engaged. We used our A type for most of the 6 years we raced the car. Ours also had the large accumulator shimmed to about 525 psi. We found it to be very stout and relatively trouble free despite the abuse. Our only problem with it was a broken circlip costing about $1. On the rare occasions we used 1st overdrive, it was with a close ratio gear set where 1st is nearly as high as 2nd in a normal gear set. I have no explanation for why our experiences differ. Perhaps others will comment. Tony Drews? On 7/3/2013 4:10 AM, TR4 Tony wrote: > Hi again fellas > > You need to be aware that using overdrive in 1st gear with an a type unit will give it a very short life. > > Apart from the fact that you will cane the hell out of the bearings as you load up on exit, the less obvious issue is the rear bearing set in the a type unit, which is rated to about 9000 rpm. > > This bearing set runs at 3 times engine speed. So do the maths, but in a 6000 rpm max engine, it's double the designed load rate on those bearings. With a steel crank and 8500 rpm plus it's nearly 3 times. I regularly run upwards of 6000 rpm. > > If you run at full revs in any gear for any pronged time this bearing seizes and the overdrive cooks, and using it on first gets it to that failure point very quickly. its worth remembering that the inside of the overdrive does not recover coolness very easily as its snuck up inside the car, so the heat issue is cumulative - ie once it gets hot it stays hot and the heat builds. I've had my gearbox so hot after a half hour rest on a rally that it was a gloves on job to check the oil level and the forward UJ on the prop. > > The answers are firstly a higher rated bearing set to deal with those extra revs (and by that I mean larger individual bearings with bigger gaps between them for the oil to flow through and get that cooling done), secondly and / or a gearbox oil cooler. > W > I was getting about 200 miles running out of an a type because of this revs issue, firstly manifesting itself in the speedo drive melting like wax on a stick (so both my speed and tripmeter failed - which is what alerted me to the problem) and secondly by the cage round the bearing melting and causing the unit to seize (oh and the smell and racket wasn't great either) - the first time the gearbox and overdrive unit were scrap, the second I was a little more clued up and got it back to base intact, albeit utterly knackered. > > So, if you do plan to use OD on first in an a type certainly, do make sure the unit is suitably uprated otherwise you'll be taking it out again shortly afterwards. > > Regards > > Tony > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2 Jul 2013, at 21:01, Larry Young wrote: > >> That was with a close ratio gear set that has a high 1st gear and >> Hallett had one turn that is called "Stop and turn left". Yeah, I did >> my first autocross in years in Waco last month with the street TR250. >> It's like Goldilocks and the Three Bears. 1st was too low, 2nd was too >> high, but 1st overdrive would have been just right. Maybe I will rewire >> the TR250 the same as the John's TR3. There is a very simple way to >> wire them using only one switch on reverse. >> >> On 7/2/2013 8:29 AM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: >>> In a message dated 07/01/2013 7:28:09 PM Central Daylight Time, >>> cartravel@pobox.com writes: >>> >>> >>>> At >>>> Hallett there is one very tight turn and with a close ratio gearbox, >>>> first is too low and 2nd is too high but 1st overdrive is just right. >>> >>> "Overdrive in 1st!" What a concept. Mike Belfer would be rolling >>> over in his grave to hear that. He used to lecture me about not using >>> it in 2nd. But it sure worked slick in traffic coming out of Turn 5 >>> at Road America. >>> >>> My overdrive unit has been on the shelf for years now. No longer >>> searching for faster laps. Just trying to enjoy still being out there. >>> >>> Bill Dentinger >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 3 17:06:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7224316B for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 17:06:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm25-vm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm25-vm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.192]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF0D42FC3 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 17:05:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.155] by nm25.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jul 2013 23:05:54 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.49] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jul 2013 23:05:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp102.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jul 2013 23:05:54 -0000 iNpsoKiS0waA80kZOIRHgKe6sTcNY0wR9Jg7zu71ypMZGCv7gX_5YMRj8ViU s4O8LHTTzlrn5zcv3taOIgtlQM9m73fDVPi9NSzDUAYMz6v2UIQr7IyqpWRo IHtB0ws4xzWEIh9BnydK8to2FNf44I73ZFmX.jEggFD.6i4_RXEbaxlUYrr9 BKrWS2ivwHoKzkejqC3FthTF_BlWqqCA7ZSt4XjiVOV0FjUIr5uJZ1xNU0LT BofCMfVUoPck8LCB_Z24RPOpjKL95t79hv4px0UyRCCnY6xz9WzwxiFS0MwG Qi135QFunm8ZazC24EalcexKaHLuljd4uzam4w9cbJ_An5UhsWRExxBjmrnX GmS8oYWIb96n0I12NATksYGZa0AZk9CqBd53NN4yGjCHB80pui2VMPDnxtDK dEFlBjYT.Dj6l2JXooXTkoiitGFcFr1C._WskL9Dsh5hQnw1GnX2iZJXqRm. yHdZxHvoGUH8HKoodWZDaCFSuR46qiespiLCJMJNAXnQr0sNQdg-- plain) by smtp102.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 03 Jul 2013 16:05:54 -0700 PDT Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 18:05:57 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: EDWARD BARNARD References: <51D33184.5020009@pobox.com> <1372814955.74014.YahooMailNeo@web181401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear End Ratios Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ed, Your wiring sounds similar to what I used. I used a commodity SPDT Bosch relay with the overdrive solenoid connected to the normally closed contact. The switches were wired in parallel so that the overdrive works when all switches are off. And you get this.... I just recently installed a J-type overdrive in my Model T boat tail speedster - very slick. It goes about 55mph at 2000 and I don't care to go much faster. Larry On 7/2/2013 8:29 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Larry: > I did the wiring through the reverse switch on Ray Josey's SpitSix. I > didn't have the special bracket used on GT6 trannies for the O/D > switches so I used the reverse as a disabler instead of the normal > switches as enablers. It does allow O/D in every forward gear. > Get this...I built him a GT6 O/D tranny I had sitting around the shop, > then installed a 3.27/1 third member. He cruises down the highway at > 2000 - 2200 rpm. in 4th O/D > -Ed- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 3 21:37:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E3F4042D for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 21:37:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm7-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm7-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.166]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7571D4040F for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 21:34:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.157] by nm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jul 2013 03:34:53 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.135] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jul 2013 03:34:53 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1011.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jul 2013 03:34:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 97120 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jul 2013 03:34:52 -0000 s=s1024; t=1372908892; bh=2A6xU5Gu5NCjsUXK0dnxUtXp8ZYv8Too1R7EgLV5Alk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Tt/BuZ57bWc2k0hnIivsQbwsK9tQ2SMwGkkMemMgzJkcVX8HxlVo3xdMlwV8cmJjAHON4+sfJranyALDMen4cjksMxnyTDbd6uXJsvVXHe6C735omAJfR6LkVFK5gXCZvaZ8p2wsNE593iCBr08X0EGUdDio3/ip0BTkLmsLeEo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WR14prkW/nEdnVWyURi8OFwhBg8usqqjZUQm2yxabAx3tJqHMJop/h4nia99MZbcUtzbrZi91EJflLy22AxJXFwxhigTpsRdBVILm+4a2x6qlNv6XTR9L4G6kCTRa+flbOCTeH+vUPvSSLBGq4g8riUvn8yB6AEz8UTA/SIZW3A= ; uffBUz4ZY1nVsnA_N4257fJP7.Q7WnkSMwYMAdC5Tcf9hK_DavLL5Q1RHx3o V.Eg3Zkulyn_lUiXNBeSE6GKSwy3yM_j3fLGw63p8fxX5.ZlycQo3T0tmMnc K5K8Pz.tJ2.38rK0RnhNZZH6x3hfSKTmvQrw2b55HQedeVPgAxfF4AfxxmnZ Uu1eeg_M9J.vsuq0jdtGHJzuDTT7815UEFf6kiuAaGbzdFltncYdBFTq8O76 zRHV3a0gVhTFUXetFKM9bm1J8c4QeRWaI_a5D4mO.27y9KgHyQ_pCZqRceC. YMBvyFPFDEjQbJhSse_Hbd9HxxlCdKPP8xHJUuzKEReJXA1alcFXi5FEUKSb TzYpT3jab5jb7YewShSzfssIPNsSxnJ3IDzgWRpGRbVJqEdGn1UHnGeZs0j1 wHI98AkqG9NAfBGCmCYqTAmDbaKsvEFaJwDdZ9GLbEg7iPegDuVzyo1Utg33 gchbO0B72gB71r0edvhKLg8IWbgWPjQTsNcxFq_JlqJp4FUZt3sp.FugtdUl tY_ijrvlZg04El4AP3m2ObEVaD9rtbN_W1ftuXatdmsT54Rde13Eq4Qyh0U1 s7L1tXC4f.E8- Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Jul 2013 20:34:52 PDT WWVzLCB0aGF0IGlzIGV4YWN0bHkgaG93IEkgZGlkIFJheSdzIE8vRC4gSSBsaWtlIHRvIHVzZSB0aGUgdGVybSBlbmFibGVyIG9yIGRpc2FibGVyIGJlY2F1c2UgaXQgbWFrZXMgaXQgZWFzaWVyIGZvciBwZW9wbGUgdG8gdW5kZXJzdGFuZCBob3cgdGhlIHN3aXRjaGVzIGFyZSBhY3R1YWxseSB3b3JraW5nLiBUaGUgZml2ZSB0ZXJtaW5hbCBnZW5lcmljIHJlbGF5IGRvZXMgdGhlIHRyaWNrIGdyZWF0LCBidXQgSSBhbSBsaWtlwqB5b3UgYW5kIHByZWZlciB0byB1c2UgYSBCb3NjaCBvbmUgZm9yIGJldHRlciABMAEBAQE- References: <51D33184.5020009@pobox.com> <1372814955.74014.YahooMailNeo@web181401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <51D4AE55.2090200@pobox.com> Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 20:34:52 -0700 (PDT) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: Larry Young Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear End Ratios Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, that is exactly how I did Ray's O/D. I like to use the term enabler or disabler because it makes it easier for people to understand how the switches are actually working. The five terminal generic relay does the trick great, but I am like you and prefer to use a Bosch one for better reliability over the $4.95 Chinese ones I can't wait to see the Speedster. -Ed- ________________________________ From: Larry Young To: EDWARD BARNARD Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear End Ratios Ed, Your wiring sounds similar to what I used. I used a commodity SPDT Bosch relay with the overdrive solenoid connected to the normally closed contact. The switches were wired in parallel so that the overdrive works when all switches are off. And you get this.... I just recently installed a J-type overdrive in my Model T boat tail speedster - very slick. It goes about 55mph at 2000 and I don't care to go much faster. Larry On 7/2/2013 8:29 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: Larry: >I did the wiring through the reverse switch on Ray Josey's SpitSix. I didn't have the special bracket used on GT6 trannies for the O/D switches so I used the reverse as a disabler instead of the normal switches as enablers. It does allow O/D in every forward gear. >Get this...I built him a GT6 O/D tranny I had sitting around the shop, then installed a 3.27/1 third member. He cruises down the highway at 2000 - 2200 rpm. in 4th O/D >-Ed- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 3 22:43:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560CA40446 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 22:43:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from roproxy2-pub.unifiedlayer.com (roproxy2-pub.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.18.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 01E2140411 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 22:43:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 14126 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jul 2013 04:43:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy3.unifiedlayer.com) (66.147.243.72) by roproxy2.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 4 Jul 2013 04:43:13 -0000 {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Received: from just64.justhost.com (just64.justhost.com [173.254.28.64]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.64); Thu, 04 Jul 2013 04:43:13 GMT Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=60024 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UubIK-0001SY-FF; Wed, 03 Jul 2013 22:37:24 -0600 Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 23:37:20 -0500 To: Larry Young ,TR4 Tony From: Tony Drews References: <51D33184.5020009@pobox.com> <0F3E9407-C8D0-4F1A-BDE2-866DCFCBBD2D@virgin.net> <51D4A9EB.2080202@pobox.com> {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear End Ratios Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm interested in which bearing(s) this refers to. I've been beating the heck out of an A-type for 10 years now. I did manage to frag the one way clutch arrangement by loading the driveline with rear lockup and a detroit locker (which is quite a jarring thing to experience - I thought someone hit me). Didn't know I had a problem with the OD until I changed the oil and significantly sized chunks came out with the oil. I do use 2nd OD semi-frequently although lately I've been more prone to lug it in 3rd and be able to skip the time-wasting shift from 2nd OD to 3rd. It's normally on just one corner per lap that 2nd OD is the "perfect" gear (turn 5 at Road America, 3A at Blackhawk, the hard right entry to the esses at VIR). But, I don't run for more than 30 minutes at a stretch and normally only about 20 minutes of that is under full race conditions so I may be allowing enough heat to dissipate before bad things start to occur. I know the driveshaft tunnel is uncomfortably hot after a 30 min session on a hot day, so I would imagine that the Tranny and OD are pretty toasty by then. I also generally shift at 6000 even though I have the good crank / rods / etc. so that may help. Is there some sort of beefed up bearing arrangement that can be implemented? I'll need to look at the exploded diagram again to better understand this one. Maybe it's the bearings in the planetary gears? Those seem small and would be spinning pretty quickly... Tony Drews At 05:47 PM 7/3/2013, Larry Young wrote: >I did not follow your logic concerning the overdrive bearings. Are >you referring the the two rear bearings that support the annulus and >turn at drive shaft speed? They will be turning slower when >overdrive is engaged. > >We used our A type for most of the 6 years we raced the car. Ours >also had the large accumulator shimmed to about 525 psi. We found >it to be very stout and relatively trouble free despite the abuse. >Our only problem with it was a broken circlip costing about $1. On >the rare occasions we used 1st overdrive, it was with a close ratio >gear set where 1st is nearly as high as 2nd in a normal gear set. I >have no explanation for why our experiences differ. Perhaps others >will comment. Tony Drews? > > >On 7/3/2013 4:10 AM, TR4 Tony wrote: >>Hi again fellas >> >>You need to be aware that using overdrive in 1st gear with an a >>type unit will give it a very short life. >> >>Apart from the fact that you will cane the hell out of the bearings >>as you load up on exit, the less obvious issue is the rear bearing >>set in the a type unit, which is rated to about 9000 rpm. >> >>This bearing set runs at 3 times engine speed. So do the maths, but >>in a 6000 rpm max engine, it's double the designed load rate on >>those bearings. With a steel crank and 8500 rpm plus it's nearly 3 >>times. I regularly run upwards of 6000 rpm. >> >>If you run at full revs in any gear for any pronged time this >>bearing seizes and the overdrive cooks, and using it on first gets >>it to that failure point very quickly. its worth remembering that >>the inside of the overdrive does not recover coolness very easily >>as its snuck up inside the car, so the heat issue is cumulative - >>ie once it gets hot it stays hot and the heat builds. I've had my >>gearbox so hot after a half hour rest on a rally that it was a >>gloves on job to check the oil level and the forward UJ on the prop. >> >>The answers are firstly a higher rated bearing set to deal with >>those extra revs (and by that I mean larger individual bearings >>with bigger gaps between them for the oil to flow through and get >>that cooling done), secondly and / or a gearbox oil cooler. >>W >>I was getting about 200 miles running out of an a type because of >>this revs issue, firstly manifesting itself in the speedo drive >>melting like wax on a stick (so both my speed and tripmeter failed >>- which is what alerted me to the problem) and secondly by the >>cage round the bearing melting and causing the unit to seize (oh >>and the smell and racket wasn't great either) - the first time the >>gearbox and overdrive unit were scrap, the second I was a little >>more clued up and got it back to base intact, albeit utterly knackered. >> >>So, if you do plan to use OD on first in an a type certainly, do >>make sure the unit is suitably uprated otherwise you'll be taking >>it out again shortly afterwards. >> >>Regards >> >>Tony >> >>Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 4 12:41:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E40342ACA for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 12:41:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.o2.co.uk (jabba.london.02.net [82.132.130.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B23D42735 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 03:21:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.225.55.100] (82.132.231.226) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.5.140.03) id 51D3D0E3003C24F3; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 10:20:47 +0100 References: <51D33184.5020009@pobox.com> <0F3E9407-C8D0-4F1A-BDE2-866DCFCBBD2D@virgin.net> <51D4A9EB.2080202@pobox.com> <51d4fd62.674e3c0a.1b1a.ffffca41SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> From: TR4 Tony Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 10:19:12 +0100 To: Tony Drews Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear End Ratios Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi both This issue relates to the bearing in the epicyclic gear (around which the three planet gears spin) - which therefore runs at three times engine speed. The mainshaft bearings are not such a problem, although using a high first and hefty revs shortens their life too as the shaft bends in the casing, which is weak. You'll see a series of failures recently with those using dog gear sets rather than the gentler engaging bevel sets as the shafts push apart bending and cracking the main segment of the casing - this is even happening with the late TR 6 cases which are the strongest. In the case of the overdrive bearings It may not be happening because you're not running for long periods of time - remember that I'm running for 4 to 6 hours at a stretch with out a break. Peter Eggington at Overdrive Repair Services can supply these S78 bearings at modest cost, so it's not a big money fix. If you talk to him on the phone he remembers this failure particularly as I have him the mess to post mortem as I didn't know where to start. Regards Tony Sent from my iPhone On 4 Jul 2013, at 05:37, Tony Drews wrote: > I'm interested in which bearing(s) this refers to. I've been beating the heck out of an A-type for 10 years now. I did manage to frag the one way clutch arrangement by loading the driveline with rear lockup and a detroit locker (which is quite a jarring thing to experience - I thought someone hit me). Didn't know I had a problem with the OD until I changed the oil and significantly sized chunks came out with the oil. I do use 2nd OD semi-frequently although lately I've been more prone to lug it in 3rd and be able to skip the time-wasting shift from 2nd OD to 3rd. It's normally on just one corner per lap that 2nd OD is the "perfect" gear (turn 5 at Road America, 3A at Blackhawk, the hard right entry to the esses at VIR). But, I don't run for more than 30 minutes at a stretch and normally only about 20 minutes of that is under full race conditions so I may be allowing enough heat to dissipate before bad things start to occur. I know the driveshaft tunnel is uncomfortably hot after a 30 min session on a hot day, so I would imagine that the Tranny and OD are pretty toasty by then. I also generally shift at 6000 even though I have the good crank / rods / etc. so that may help. > > Is there some sort of beefed up bearing arrangement that can be implemented? > > I'll need to look at the exploded diagram again to better understand this one. Maybe it's the bearings in the planetary gears? Those seem small and would be spinning pretty quickly... > > Tony Drews > > At 05:47 PM 7/3/2013, Larry Young wrote: >> I did not follow your logic concerning the overdrive bearings. Are you referring the the two rear bearings that support the annulus and turn at drive shaft speed? They will be turning slower when overdrive is engaged. >> >> We used our A type for most of the 6 years we raced the car. Ours also had the large accumulator shimmed to about 525 psi. We found it to be very stout and relatively trouble free despite the abuse. Our only problem with it was a broken circlip costing about $1. On the rare occasions we used 1st overdrive, it was with a close ratio gear set where 1st is nearly as high as 2nd in a normal gear set. I have no explanation for why our experiences differ. Perhaps others will comment. Tony Drews? >> >> >> On 7/3/2013 4:10 AM, TR4 Tony wrote: >>> Hi again fellas >>> >>> You need to be aware that using overdrive in 1st gear with an a type unit will give it a very short life. >>> >>> Apart from the fact that you will cane the hell out of the bearings as you load up on exit, the less obvious issue is the rear bearing set in the a type unit, which is rated to about 9000 rpm. >>> >>> This bearing set runs at 3 times engine speed. So do the maths, but in a 6000 rpm max engine, it's double the designed load rate on those bearings. With a steel crank and 8500 rpm plus it's nearly 3 times. I regularly run upwards of 6000 rpm. >>> >>> If you run at full revs in any gear for any pronged time this bearing seizes and the overdrive cooks, and using it on first gets it to that failure point very quickly. its worth remembering that the inside of the overdrive does not recover coolness very easily as its snuck up inside the car, so the heat issue is cumulative - ie once it gets hot it stays hot and the heat builds. I've had my gearbox so hot after a half hour rest on a rally that it was a gloves on job to check the oil level and the forward UJ on the prop. >>> >>> The answers are firstly a higher rated bearing set to deal with those extra revs (and by that I mean larger individual bearings with bigger gaps between them for the oil to flow through and get that cooling done), secondly and / or a gearbox oil cooler. >>> W >>> I was getting about 200 miles running out of an a type because of this revs issue, firstly manifesting itself in the speedo drive melting like wax on a stick (so both my speed and tripmeter failed - which is what alerted me to the problem) and secondly by the cage round the bearing melting and causing the unit to seize (oh and the smell and racket wasn't great either) - the first time the gearbox and overdrive unit were scrap, the second I was a little more clued up and got it back to base intact, albeit utterly knackered. >>> >>> So, if you do plan to use OD on first in an a type certainly, do make sure the unit is suitably uprated otherwise you'll be taking it out again shortly afterwards. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Tony >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 4 18:00:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19F842B1E for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 18:00:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557FB40415 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 18:00:43 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=lh9VjfyL9ogA:10 a=MBhXI9UO50dOESR3T8MA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55003] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id EF/78-14128-AAC06D15; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 00:00:43 +0000 From: "Randall" Cc: Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 17:00:54 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac545hFlAQ818LkfS3aCKAY1djuMRAAKox7w Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear End Ratios Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > This issue relates to the bearing in the epicyclic gear > (around which the three planet gears spin) - which therefore > runs at three times engine speed. Nope. Since the entire overdrive is driven from the output shaft of the main gearbox, it's speed is relative to that. Meaning it all turns some 3 times slower in 1st gear than in 4th (for a given engine rpm). And the gear that the three planet gears turn around (which most of us call the 'sun' gear) is either stopped relative to the shaft it runs on (direct drive), or is stopped relative to the housing (with the shaft turning at input rpm). Nothing runs at 3 times shaft rpm. -- Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 5 06:56:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63DAD40410 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 06:56:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-relay-3.cniteam.com (omr-relay-3.cniteam.com [209.143.0.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF9A40405 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 06:53:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rg7.cniteam.com (rg7.cniteam.com [209.143.0.247]) by omr-relay-3.cniteam.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r65CrOiH020476 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 08:53:25 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([216.201.14.237]) by rg7.cniteam.com (MOS 4.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id CAD26928 (AUTH tws@bright.net) for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 08:53:24 -0400 Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 08:53:36 -0400 From: Ted Schumacher User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <51D1DFEE.1070909@pobox.com> <51D21DA2.5040105@pobox.com> refid=str=0001.0A020209.51D6C1C4.00AE, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-09-13 19:33:14, dmn=2013-04-19 10:07:54, mode=single engine Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear End Ratios Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A "rule of thumb" for gearing is you should be at peak revs in top gear 2/3 of the way down the longest straight. Thsi allows you to carry top speed for a longer period of time. Ted On 7/1/2013 9:41 PM, John Hasty wrote: > OK you guys. Thanks. What you are telling me is to get off my ass & drive the > car! But it is really hard @ 77 to learn too many new tricks. I've only been > at this 4 wheel stuff for 2 seasons but can bet I am gonna try. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 1, 2013, at 8:24 PM, Larry Young wrote: > >> I would also consider using the OD in in other than top gear. Quick shifting > overdrive is sometimes more convenient in a tight and busy situation. It can > also give you better gearing by splitting gears. At Hallett there is one very > tight turn and with a close ratio gearbox, first is too low and 2nd is too > high but 1st overdrive is just right. I didn't have an overdrive the one time > I ran at VIR, but I was so busy during the lead up to the the straight, I had > wished I had an overdrive, which only required the flick of a switch. That > was one data point that lead to me to reinstalling the overdrive. Again at > Hallett, the overdrive was really only needed on the straight (maybe), but I > noticed my son, Tom, would use it all over the track. It is just more > convenient. >> Larry >> >> On 7/1/2013 3:25 PM, Kas Kastner wrote: >>> That 4.55 will make you fly up the hill to the start line and off a lot of > the slow corners. Live with it. >>> Never be beaten by equipment. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Larry Young wrote: >>>> John, >>>> A 4:1 rear with overdrive (0..82) is 3.28. Unless you've changed it since > I had it, it has a 4.55 rear, which gives 3.73 in overdrive. This is close to > the standard top gear of 3.7 which most racers run. You must be > making good power to reach 6200 at the end of a long straight. I think there > is something like a 4.3 R&P ratio available, but I think I would stick with > the current setup and live with 6200. Some guys spin there motors a lot > higher than that >>>> Larry Young >>>> >>>> On 7/1/2013 11:57 AM, john hasty wrote: >>>>> The overall ratio we have in the TR3A is 3.7 achieved with a 4.1 rear > end >>>>> and overdrive. At VIR, Road Atlanta, Savanna and Mid Ohio, > all with long >>>>> straights, we are turning 6200 at the end of each of them. Elkhart Lake > has >>>>> longer straights and we are concerned that we might need a > taller rear end >>>>> gear. If we put 3.7 rear end gears in we would have an overall ratio of >>>>> 3.66 which I believe would produce 800rpm less or the same as turning >>>>> 7000rpm with the 4.1. I can't turn 7000 with a stock crank so; Does > anyone >>>>> with experience at Elkhart have a suggestion? What do you run there? >>>>> Thanks guys/gals...... >>>>> >>>>> John H. Hasty >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tedtsimx@bright.net > > > > -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx@bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 5 08:28:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7607940431 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 08:28:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A581140405 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 08:27:54 -0600 (MDT) a=KDt3i/Ut4mfcAvoikkGt5w==:17 a=Y2ANZA1omUYA:10 a=FGx7159uJ7gA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=-vtNfzRNSIMg4IyH4HAA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=gErg2_hl45QA:10 a=8IPfIkvBaWQA:10 a=QlqXSmOZecNk8o0Gd68A:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=AfkkXffo6PgA:10 a=ZwvnQMdMGjAA:10 a=KDt3i/Ut4mfcAvoikkGt5w==:117 Received: from [184.90.213.235] ([184.90.213.235:54845] helo=Davis.local) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 1E/C9-15971-9E7D6D15; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 14:27:53 +0000 Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 10:24:09 -0400 From: Bob Davis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] TR3 - TR4 parts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I am in need of an engine block breather tube and a good dipstick. Any out there that can be bought? thxx, Bob _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 5 09:01:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09BC140433 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 09:01:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E09240408 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 09:00:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.89]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id wed01l0021vN32c01f0wGL; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 15:00:56 +0000 Received: from WalterPC ([68.35.39.236]) by omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id wf0v1l00355iYBo8if0vL5; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 15:00:55 +0000 From: "Walter Hollowell" To: Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 09:00:55 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac55kD5xf77hkLB0SZOAp3CX2XFCVg== Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1373036456; bh=nmBjJ8BvJ8GdhldoM7+l8gfBTzsVkHG9f5/G26lK49k=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=P/roX64jv6fJUrbos7Gstp9o67fEKbRkP0Xe8ek7H8kfgakmjTRPgeortr1OBh/Fy Nbpr52RerAWGrhDGVuBQcVVk0ct+vBqdyOGMaYLQT3XU4akFjmeftXKaqaFooVbzJr XiTVNHLiJLGo/OvdDaVGgiXWeN4aOnWdNcsS5EAjQykCtT9ScfizXqfK50Fui65LmW ProUb9Wb4Anks7ULwS7rbVB45Xd3nnzAKh0d4XSp5TlCBtIUyHyIWGSo4A64Al4NL6 7CkFvLdt6lqYtwKj0Tm2oRRfntaRAhAPgEwkrf7uKRKLQozXJBuXA0cyEJP29p4v4f HV0xW3QLNGuhg== Subject: [Fot] Palmdale, Calif. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Do we have any FOT members that live in Palmdale, California? I might need a little help in picking up a part and getting it shipped to Albuquerque, NM. Thanks, Walt Hollowell Albuquerque, NM _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 5 09:01:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D29340433 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 09:01:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d05.mx.aol.com (omr-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D662040408 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 09:01:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by omr-d05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 5518E7004FAD0; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 10:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtd005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtd005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.209]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 24CB7E000082; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 10:53:47 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 10:53:46 -0400 (EDT) To: rdavis4@cfl.rr.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1373036027; bh=Zmq/Bhyew5O1ewz2gSAFYMZlnkypJGKFIIZUEdAtFQM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CL0wiy8WO8T+f9PsG7jeIll+mjJLTY8JDvcdQrE2v18VHTcfylertwZIQRdyt+ELp oO2aSVbmIQubI2Yklx1fBOin8i3e5+/lEq1eaNIJbdTSaTj4JH1ysqqpFc+os4ZN6v hwPb18Mv9yynSawLS3xXJ4B5/9e+W867GTay3xok= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c751d6ddfb38c6 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 - TR4 parts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 07/05/2013 9:28:50 AM Central Daylight Time, rdavis4@cfl.rr.com writes: > I am in need of an engine block breather tube and a good dipstick. Any > out there that can be bought? > Sorry. I don't have a spare block breather pipe. I've got a dipstick. It's not a spare, but it ain't much good any more any way. They say it's probably just Old Age, but I've been telling people it's been overused. Bill (Damdinger) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 5 09:32:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818574054A for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 09:32:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from roproxy2-pub.unifiedlayer.com (roproxy2-pub.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.18.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D25B40449 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 09:31:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 12952 invoked by uid 0); 5 Jul 2013 15:25:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy2.unifiedlayer.com) (66.147.243.71) by roproxy2.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 5 Jul 2013 15:25:05 -0000 {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Received: from just64.justhost.com (just64.justhost.com [173.254.28.64]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.79); Fri, 05 Jul 2013 15:25:05 GMT Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=52330 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uv7TT-0006JZ-SB for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 08:59:04 -0600 Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 09:58:59 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: [Fot] Videos from Blackhawk Farms June races Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 5 09:51:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD50C40446 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 09:51:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from roproxy2-pub.unifiedlayer.com (roproxy2-pub.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.18.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8FAF040441 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 09:51:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 15422 invoked by uid 0); 5 Jul 2013 15:43:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy2.unifiedlayer.com) (66.147.243.71) by roproxy2.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 5 Jul 2013 15:43:43 -0000 {sentby:smtp auth 66.192.207.150 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Received: from just64.justhost.com (just64.justhost.com [173.254.28.64]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.79); Fri, 05 Jul 2013 15:43:43 GMT Received: from [66.192.207.150] (port=18699 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uv80x-0000Pe-Lx for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 09:33:39 -0600 Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 10:33:35 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews References: <20130705153200.13C9140533@autox.team.net> {sentby:smtp auth 66.192.207.150 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] Videos from Blackhawk Farms June races Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 5 10:03:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140CB40572 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 10:03:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from roproxy2-pub.unifiedlayer.com (roproxy2-pub.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.18.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C93EA40519 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 10:02:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 25409 invoked by uid 0); 5 Jul 2013 15:54:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy2.unifiedlayer.com) (66.147.243.71) by roproxy2.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 5 Jul 2013 15:54:12 -0000 {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Received: from just64.justhost.com (just64.justhost.com [173.254.28.64]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.79); Fri, 05 Jul 2013 15:54:12 GMT Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=53265 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uv8Kp-0004j9-SJ for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 09:54:12 -0600 Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 10:54:07 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews References: <20130705153200.13C9140533@autox.team.net> <20130705155152.B385540536@autox.team.net> {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] Videos from Blackhawk Farms June races Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have no idea why the links aren't going through. Last time I copied / pasted from notepad and it still didn't go through. I'm going to try one more time (next message) and then give up. Tony At 10:33 AM 7/5/2013, Tony Drews wrote: >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 5 10:33:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83D840544 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 10:33:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from roproxy2-pub.unifiedlayer.com (roproxy2-pub.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.18.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id DF09640441 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 10:32:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 30786 invoked by uid 0); 5 Jul 2013 16:27:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy2.unifiedlayer.com) (66.147.243.71) by roproxy2.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 5 Jul 2013 16:27:30 -0000 {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Received: from just64.justhost.com (just64.justhost.com [173.254.28.64]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.79); Fri, 05 Jul 2013 16:27:30 GMT Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=53296 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uv8Pk-000302-M9 for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 09:59:16 -0600 Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 10:59:12 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: [Fot] Blackhawk Videos, June Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Feature Race: http://youtu.be/03DN9tHUTqw Saturday Race: http://youtu.be/zBTeaG684_o Handicap Race: http://youtu.be/uYdo9O5FN_w Cheers, Tony _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 5 12:11:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9147E40572 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 12:11:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm22-vm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm22-vm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.110]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F10940445 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 12:11:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.172] by nm22.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jul 2013 18:11:15 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.248] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jul 2013 18:11:15 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jul 2013 18:11:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 42484 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Jul 2013 18:11:15 -0000 s=s1024; t=1373047875; bh=NO0HZasMDrDyNbC9XQMGf9QyayHE5dRzKh+wjTiKQhY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aR/NCQ+zAoIOJih0QyrIBuHn2u+aT9GajjhiatXjb/Bd64g9S+ApD8ZidAkqgHOFtSeDmJ6QINc+7QP5b9JwLk4Yav72iiywFSkdAzeXXCPnet3B8hrollsdrSS62ebIDKTBgJFf1GJXDEujLvf19IoQY5Imf1ugveWceItETys= 8_H4K0wqHKwLc4k6OubPYhxgIDx_ZdYvFIm51ILNOWw7VH_L9Lblgs1sbnRU 6ktIpdYoNk2lAuQBEnrMVE5qrJ7lCGpYBZG8f98K0DfLKFNvjy353tawvBP. uMPqX8XYNsDP6PqiPt9JUiwTbGC0pWnT1lFsQ.qM0xOyjUPypC9lhpP298j8 X46Ewv4Pw2fDCxbDxKdvB3_bURlGLHetLlj2cqFS6IyjFqRZobAsxdGTBgol zq_Sr..B_o7OToZa2EHL06IEKs9lLSMzv6JYXkE0brvjunk0soIfHGhRGQFI ksXkB8c0_bPApstk6rghEf29lN25mQ4O6NBEGds5b3Gb5ecNb5akH6q9LKD5 6430ErlYK6V153nwGQvwFdLZHwbWHi6Kuh402JwbUECOAXeez1riXHATzgQ8 vSa_UE.UvWf_KkJl4YekIp.EnzLYb8DqAWK9cNvJwSIV0EmSLoZEwnC.2UAw GG5IE7yyZHz7xcZHRl3ILASnyH3FQ3Cjt0s2cKtBEw_BYMvyrqMSwmlURdrf tDJKlcTypFQQ- Received: from [99.60.75.95] by web184803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 11:11:14 PDT SSBoYXZlIGEgVFI2IHRoYXQgaXMgc2V0IGZvciAxLzE2IGluY2ggdG9lIG91dCBhbmQgSSdtIHdvbmRlcmluZyBpZiBzb21ldGhpbmcgbGlrZSAxLzggaW5jaCBpcyBiZXR0ZXIgZm9yIHRoZSB0cmFjay7CoCBJIGRvbid0IHdhbnQgdG8gaW5kdWNlIHdhbmRlcmluZyBidXQgdGhlIHRyYWNrIGlzIDIuMiBtaWxlcyB3aXRoIDE2IHR1cm5zwqBhbmQgdGhlIHN0cmFpZ2h0cyBhcmUgbm90wqB2ZXJ5IGxvbmcgYW5kIG5vdCBldmVuwqB2ZXJ5IHN0cmFpZ2h0LgEwAQEBAQ-- Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 11:11:14 -0700 (PDT) From: sherry robyn To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] What front toe settings are being run on the track? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have a TR6 that is set for 1/16 inch toe out and I'm wondering if something like 1/8 inch is better for the track. I don't want to induce wandering but the track is 2.2 miles with 16 turns and the straights are not very long and not even very straight. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 5 13:31:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C0040426 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 13:31:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp450.redcondor.net (smtp450.redcondor.net [208.80.204.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D1B40403 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 13:31:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cgp.netins.net ([167.142.229.73]) by smtp450.redcondor.net ({4ad064a1-3618-4418-b4ee-963987bff397}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20130705193129607; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 19:31:29 +0000 Received: from [208.126.78.151] (account riverside@southslope.net HELO rileyPC) by cgpf2.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.13) with ESMTPA id 549189900; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 14:31:17 -0500 From: To: , "Tony Drews" References: <20130705163340.48EF04051C@autox.team.net> Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 14:31:14 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Blackhawk Videos, June Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Very good! As always, you were safe, fast, and consistent. art de armond -----Original Message----- From: Tony Drews Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 10:59 AM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Blackhawk Videos, June Feature Race: http://youtu.be/03DN9tHUTqw Saturday Race: http://youtu.be/zBTeaG684_o Handicap Race: http://youtu.be/uYdo9O5FN_w Cheers, Tony _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside@southslope.net ----- No virus found in this message. 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It seems OK now but I didn't know if it might get better with a little more toe. Jim ________________________________ From: "riverside@southslope.net" To: sherry robyn Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] What front toe settings are being run on the track? how does the car turn in? any instability at the front under braking? art de armond -----Original Message----- From: sherry robyn Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 1:11 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] What front toe settings are being run on the track? I have a TR6 that is set for 1/16 inch toe out and I'm wondering if something like 1/8 inch is better for the track. I don't want to induce wandering but the track is 2.2 miles with 16 turns and the straights are not very long and not even very straight. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside@southslope.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com/ Version: 2013.0.3345 / Virus Database: 3204/6466 - Release Date: 07/05/13 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 5 16:54:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D8540450 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 16:54:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f43.google.com (mail-ee0-f43.google.com [74.125.83.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52821403EE for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 16:54:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f43.google.com with SMTP id l10so1625255eei.16 for ; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 15:54:18 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=tUQYid+tVbhTOpyEo8oTpFH19p/mrejRY03ecuC97Rs=; b=FVOfEYr/nORYZWuNpXdhEw9nnHJYDANe2jF9dwDhK7V0VMc5tM8gkQsz1doqgm8YAr 933/U3EFmNzHM5imNP1nNsl17oozu6sRsKobqdRWbp1e8G1hfnLU4+exYMQGoww30PMt 6IBuE6VYHVzePZg4szm/VSVGyNBr5yXfIUjmOd5K5APfJKS3mhPdFD9SJvAH2KeQaHVC A4eCNYK+K60OgjkPAG97y1IKqVLiQDR0ngXm0TPmxP+BTLZfcPFoX2u0+2gr8jmg/gdX zDajagPYScH5GCu0f/OHpIUHQ02i3C7Y+YeeFX3kO4w9roQBIL+CwuR6jjPVS+1qiqbT Y8Ag== h9mr14519030eeo.13.1373064858337; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 15:54:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.174.140.227]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b7sm17956715eef.16.2013.07.05.15.54.08 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 05 Jul 2013 15:54:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'sherry robyn'" , References: <1373047874.38895.YahooMailNeo@web184803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <98E2E4DD40CA4C01AC6BC3E907CA7349@rileyPC> <1373062187.34985.YahooMailNeo@web184802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 00:54:12 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac55zTtFGbQomqD8ReGTIeLYIJzmpAABUW3g Content-Language: de Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] What front toe settings are being run on the track? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I run toe in. Factory settings. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von sherry robyn Gesendet: Samstag, 6. Juli 2013 00:10 An: riverside@southslope.net Cc: fot@autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] What front toe settings are being run on the track? It seems OK now but I didn't know if it might get better with a little more toe. Jim ________________________________ From: "riverside@southslope.net" To: sherry robyn Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] What front toe settings are being run on the track? how does the car turn in? any instability at the front under braking? art de armond -----Original Message----- From: sherry robyn Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 1:11 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] What front toe settings are being run on the track? I have a TR6 that is set for 1/16 inch toe out and I'm wondering if something like 1/8 inch is better for the track. I don't want to induce wandering but the track is 2.2 miles with 16 turns and the straights are not very long and not even very straight. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside@southslope.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com/ Version: 2013.0.3345 / Virus Database: 3204/6466 - Release Date: 07/05/13 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 5 17:18:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB46B40451 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 17:18:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from roproxy2-pub.unifiedlayer.com (roproxy2-pub.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.18.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 955CF403DF for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 17:13:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 20465 invoked by uid 0); 5 Jul 2013 23:13:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy2.unifiedlayer.com) (66.147.243.71) by roproxy2.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 5 Jul 2013 23:13:06 -0000 {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Received: from just64.justhost.com (just64.justhost.com [173.254.28.64]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.79); Fri, 05 Jul 2013 23:13:06 GMT Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=56787 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UvF73-0002fl-E6 for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 17:08:25 -0600 Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 18:08:21 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews References: <1373047874.38895.YahooMailNeo@web184803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <98E2E4DD40CA4C01AC6BC3E907CA7349@rileyPC> <1373062187.34985.YahooMailNeo@web184802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <001d01ce79d2$95e2e0d0$c1a8a270$@com> {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] What front toe settings are being run on the track? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Me too - like 1/16" toe in. Based on what's been reported on the list, I'm not sure you can tell the difference between 1/8" toe in vs 1/8" toe out. Tony Drews At 05:54 PM 7/5/2013, MadMarx wrote: >I run toe in. >Factory settings. > >Cheers >Chris > >-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- >Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im >Auftrag von sherry robyn >Gesendet: Samstag, 6. Juli 2013 00:10 >An: riverside@southslope.net >Cc: fot@autox.team.net >Betreff: Re: [Fot] What front toe settings are being run on the track? > >It seems OK now but I didn't know if it might get better with a little more >toe. Jim > > >________________________________ > From: >"riverside@southslope.net" >To: sherry robyn > >Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 12:30 PM >Subject: Re: >[Fot] What front toe settings are being run on the track? > > >how does the car >turn in? >any instability at the front under braking? > >art de armond >-----Original Message----- From: sherry robyn >Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 1:11 >PM >To: fot@autox.team.net >Subject: [Fot] What front toe settings are being run >on the track? > >I have a TR6 that is set for 1/16 inch toe out and I'm >wondering if something >like 1/8 inch is better for the track. I don't want to >induce wandering but >the track is 2.2 miles with 16 turns and the straights >are not very long and >not even very straight. >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: >http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside@southslope.net > > > > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com/ >Version: >2013.0.3345 / Virus Database: 3204/6466 - Release Date: 07/05/13 >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 5 19:21:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB2240451 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 19:21:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA273403D0 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 19:17:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.28.17]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MPH00KZQQ8LXS10@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 20:17:10 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Tony Drews" , References: <20130705153200.13C9140533@autox.team.net> <20130705155152.B385540536@autox.team.net> <20130705160313.2D2D64044A@autox.team.net> Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 21:17:09 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] Videos from Blackhawk Farms June races Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. No use being a damned fool about it. W. C. Fields In response to the toe in question, I run 1/16 toe in. Seems to work. It looks like we will have several Triumphs at the PVGP event at BeaveRun/PIRC next weekend. We'll hope for dry weather. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Drews" To: Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Videos from Blackhawk Farms June races >I have no idea why the links aren't going through. Last time I copied / >pasted from notepad and it still didn't go through. I'm going to try one >more time (next message) and then give up. > > Tony > > At 10:33 AM 7/5/2013, Tony Drews wrote: > >>_______________________________________________ >>fot@autox.team.net >> >>http://www.fot-racing.com >> >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 6 04:45:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B3A4298E for ; Sat, 6 Jul 2013 04:45:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm7-vm3.bt.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm7-vm3.bt.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.99.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97BC74298E for ; Sat, 6 Jul 2013 04:45:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [212.82.98.43] by nm7.bt.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jul 2013 10:45:40 -0000 Received: from [217.146.189.127] by tm4.bt.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jul 2013 10:45:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp830.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jul 2013 10:45:40 -0000 s=s1024; t=1373107540; bh=Ii9G3HqFtKuzGVnOLHpUuvwDqO+y2y1O4NDtol2ZJZ8=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=TBgOp9GXUaGzgrLDNakUCGeG3E7lH9jUGCCqif1NxQqUKPN/AWMXK5UU3eiNtnpC7SFtaJJeVvnaFtAbWXCE7iQChJQVcKyx+kOFLKrPjDjVG+LQmXBFXXDcALWCNGEjyyp8Sql6AbLc6ENakia7IdRdYsGQXA4e3MCpcVyPoIU= soIP_AlSgBlqApGojy6OAKSs88S5TLm2RTG_P7NdlYloh0NHVQL3ZnkcGrn3 ADb7aywCaWPUzop.sGjcXnIxpCDG..fEMqeuUXov6ExyQ6Md4Tjgd6NBGZQm pXLS8QlMwLzWSEpHgiXNWtzNFsqdRAO7Wf5a1RXMKkYCL7PBMd_qcmTTRto4 uqXhv62ebIz6.m87PR5auzJweZ3CBPS78GbuJeZQ9zJfkmipBFnCuug4APeE 3Ssb3h6cBWjSr9k2qWF.g_uaAGLpMDd6pdbDCLl36nU_sGSmksR8ruvNWYTR sPM0dIOCSsJmEVNgBOFaCnKv.av_.eR4K1f53Wzwu5FTHbUJXBaZxSTYA8x3 iWOhisS89kTe4VnabnBV2iJZjtG4sykpCyKeVVCPyIZCtq35kZv6hqGUCyGt 8_.Tv95_D5AwsSdP28B1ygpZ6bieScvdU8qvkg5UIJW1qNlOrhEdz6vsn3pS dmo4tqvjj1LNtPJmynnHmsbEGbaJ4D4T9MH.cjF7unqI1FoBxDSM2E5zH7UB zcTcHd8G18V9dosITm7tkcvlwqAMs5ZdhIYVSCV97dnCweilEXu5M3bnsxIq Q0jT7pm2tIuaoFHvjF2SjBEgj8FAoifapxg-- plain) by smtp830.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 06 Jul 2013 03:45:39 -0700 PDT References: <20130705163347.CE6B140445@autox.team.net> From: Keith Files Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 11:45:43 +0100 To: Tony Drews Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Blackhawk Videos, June Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Great videos Tony, brought back some great memories of when I was there with you guys a few years back. Sent from my iPad On 5 Jul 2013, at 16:59, Tony Drews wrote: > Feature Race: > http://youtu.be/03DN9tHUTqw > > Saturday Race: > http://youtu.be/zBTeaG684_o > > Handicap Race: > http://youtu.be/uYdo9O5FN_w > > Cheers, Tony > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/keithfiles@btinternet.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 6 06:55:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43D3403C5 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 2013 06:55:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.wave1.net (unknown [74.219.105.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700B64038B for ; Sat, 6 Jul 2013 06:55:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [12.228.244.202] by mail.wave1.net (ArGoSoft Mail Server .NET v.1.0.8.3) with ESMTP (EHLO mtmPC); Sat, 06 Jul 2013 08:47:29 -0400 From: "Mike Moore" To: "'Bill Tobin'" , "'Tony Drews'" , References: <20130705153200.13C9140533@autox.team.net> <20130705155152.B385540536@autox.team.net> <20130705160313.2D2D64044A@autox.team.net> <0314D41F308C481DAD491C59974F4FD4@hpd530> Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 08:45:32 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac5554edf4Z4CL9eT8SMjDJc5/+QqwAXxJMw Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] PIRC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Do you guys normally try to paddock together somewhere at PIRC? Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Tobin Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 9:17 PM To: Tony Drews; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Videos from Blackhawk Farms June races If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. No use being a damned fool about it. W. C. Fields In response to the toe in question, I run 1/16 toe in. Seems to work. It looks like we will have several Triumphs at the PVGP event at BeaveRun/PIRC next weekend. We'll hope for dry weather. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Drews" To: Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Videos from Blackhawk Farms June races >I have no idea why the links aren't going through. Last time I copied / >pasted from notepad and it still didn't go through. I'm going to try one >more time (next message) and then give up. > > Tony > > At 10:33 AM 7/5/2013, Tony Drews wrote: > >>_______________________________________________ >>fot@autox.team.net >> >>http://www.fot-racing.com >> >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore@wave1.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 7 11:10:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C474042E for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 11:10:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.197]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BD44003E for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 11:10:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.58] (ool-43533a40.dyn.optonline.net [67.83.58.64]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0MPK006XNT18DSM0@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 07 Jul 2013 13:10:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 13:10:21 -0400 From: Todd Redmond To: fot@autox.team.net References: <8D04742D91FA451-FF4-579D4@webmail-m177.sysops.aol.com> Subject: [Fot] Fwd: 2013 EMRA Registration for NJMP Lightning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FoT I was asked to pass this along. This is a vintage event being held at NJ Motorsports Park Lighting Course. It is on Saturday and Sunday July 27-28. Entrance fee is only $125.00 per day!! Plus a temp EMRA license fee of $25.00. I'm planning on going and bringing my, (hope I don't get ousted from FoT) Alfa Romeo. If you decide to go, call Peter McCarthy at 973.383.8859. Tell him you're with FoT. He'll help you register. If you haven't run with EMRA, it's a grassroots, run what you've brung atmosphere. Very relaxed with the focus on safety and fun. NFI just passing it along. Todd Sent from my iPad > > > "Hurray " Thanks to Ms Caroline we now have mail in form , still not sure you can reg on line(work in process) but if you do please let me or Caroline know. Hope to see you all there ,don't forget drag your racing buddies with you ,more folks to pass :') As soon as we get reg we will post who and what's coming Thanks Again Pete > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Caroline Doty > To: midnightautopete@embarqmail.com > Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 1:27 PM > Subject: 2013 EMRA Registration for NJMP Lightning _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 7 13:23:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B09403D4 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 13:23:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m07.mx.aol.com (omr-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0808403C8 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 13:23:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.3]) by omr-m07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A086D70035483 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 15:23:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.104] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 1CE19E00009F for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 15:23:41 -0400 (EDT) References: From: Joe Alexander Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 14:23:40 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1373225022; bh=6h0ZqPr4YGYsjZv3JfJhCPGdTXzMxdfZeZGHSOuL10w=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=pFbphenVynAxA6ihBSmqaKKxMP7R9a54niEsSh/l5JbQohYWhe4/P6cxyMz6MU6T9 w5QxzUsWEbmwGpOREyQeUSTgQp9r4BWEipjkYLmpViiu5hoZ/H3rIx1UWmHts2Xmuw 0aBZdC8APoZsjPIHwPlQq29t6D5uykDn8kbxylEo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290351d9c03c6e56 Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2013. Road America. 6-8 September 2013 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > From: Joe Alexander > Date: July 7, 2013, 1:00:15 PM CDT > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Cc: Shawn Frank > Subject: Kastner Cup 2013. Road America. 6-8 September 2013 > > > FOT: If you are not attached to a specific driver for the Kastner Cup: You have choices. I sent the info below to Triumph Owners at Large, but it applies to FOT. If you do not have a position as Driver, over crew, or crew and you want to participate more fully with your Street Triumph, please go to our website. FOT-racing.com/ and enter the link for Driver & Crew and print out the form for the special package deal. It will take you to the VSCDA Registration and give you great opportunities for the weekend at special prices. It puts you on the TR250K as "crew member". OK, what this does is simplify registration at Road America when you go to VSCDA Registration. It's easier to find one file than many. We are expecting so many people that we will have our own registation window and a FOT Volunteer to help. (Tammy Frank is one volunteer and we may need more.) > > So here is a summary I sent to the rest of the world........ > > $40.00 will get you: > > Crew Status with The Kastner/Brock TR250K for the entire weekend. > Hanging out with Kas & Peg at the FOT Garages at Turn 14 > An event poster you can have Kas sign. > Your own Paddock area for Triumphs Only inside of Turn 5 > Friday Nite Triumph Car Show and Welcome Dinner at the Track. > > $85.00 will get you the above and: > > Track Touring one session on Saturday or Sunday > The 'Old Course Reenactment' in conjunction with the Gathering On The Green (Sat) > Pre-Kastner Cup Pace Lap prior to the race. > > Go to FOT-racing.com/ website and click on Driver & Crew Information for printable form, fill it out and send it to VSCDA as directed. > > This is a special deal and a peak experience in the Kastner Cup Series of 11 years. > > Please forward this offer to you clubs, forms, and other friends. > > August deadline......... > > Thanks. > > Joe Alexander > Friends of Triumph > > Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 7 18:31:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6514403BB for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 18:31:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8A14006F for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 18:31:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.28.17]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MPL005IQDFMKR70@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 07 Jul 2013 19:30:59 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Mike Moore" , "'Tony Drews'" , References: <20130705153200.13C9140533@autox.team.net> <20130705155152.B385540536@autox.team.net> <20130705160313.2D2D64044A@autox.team.net> <0314D41F308C481DAD491C59974F4FD4@hpd530> <003601ce7a46$b46bb4e0$1d431ea0$@net> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 20:30:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] PIRC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Mike, I'll be there Thurs evening. I told Marty Sukey that I'd save him a spot. If I can save 3 or 4 we can have our own Getto! Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Moore" To: "'Bill Tobin'" ; "'Tony Drews'" ; Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 8:45 AM Subject: PIRC > Do you guys normally try to paddock together somewhere at PIRC? > > Thanks > Mike > > Michael T. Moore, CPA > 2007 West 32nd Street > Erie, PA 16508 > > Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 > Fax: 814-864-7383 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Bill Tobin > Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 9:17 PM > To: Tony Drews; fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Videos from Blackhawk Farms June races > > If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. No use being a > damned fool about it. > W. C. Fields > > In response to the toe in question, I run 1/16 toe in. Seems to work. > > It looks like we will have several Triumphs at the PVGP event at > BeaveRun/PIRC next weekend. We'll hope for dry weather. > > Cheers, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Drews" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 11:54 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Videos from Blackhawk Farms June races > > >>I have no idea why the links aren't going through. Last time I copied / >>pasted from notepad and it still didn't go through. I'm going to try one >>more time (next message) and then give up. >> >> Tony >> >> At 10:33 AM 7/5/2013, Tony Drews wrote: >> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>fot@autox.team.net >>> >>>http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore@wave1.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 8 07:32:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A83F40409 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 07:32:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.wave1.net (unknown [74.219.105.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9EA140356 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 07:29:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [74.219.99.119] by mail.wave1.net (ArGoSoft Mail Server .NET v.1.0.8.3) with ESMTP (EHLO mtmPC); Mon, 08 Jul 2013 09:31:44 -0400 From: "Mike Moore" To: , Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 09:29:50 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac573zjow2/86pIWR7iskL0B3zUMsg== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] Pittsburgh VGP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone else having trouble with schedules? I found 2 different ones for PIRC, one shows every 15 minutes with Groups 1-5, the other shows races every 20 minutes with groups A-E. In entry list I am listed under Group 4 Sports Cars Under 2.0 (I have TR4 with 2.1) but website says VRG Class C1 should be in group 5. Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 8 09:36:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9556840413 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 09:36:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s13.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s13.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.88]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68E6403E0 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 09:35:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W40 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s13.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 8 Jul 2013 08:35:22 -0700 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 11:35:22 -0400 FILETIME=[C2AEB4C0:01CE7BF0] Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Shirts, Time to pay! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ok Folks, the 2013 Kastner Cup shirts have now been ordered and it is time to pay. It is up to each of you to contact Ted directly at TS Imported Automotive 800.543.6648 and make arrangements to pay. Those of you that requested shipped shirts will have, well, shipped shirts. All others will be picking up their shirts at Road America in September. We have orders for 170 shirts and 69 competitors names and car info going on the back of the shirts. Last year we had a record 53 competitors at the Mitty, this was blown out of the water for this years event. Should be fun. Marty _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 8 11:09:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 660844044A for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 11:09:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f45.google.com (mail-ee0-f45.google.com [74.125.83.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E2A4032A for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 11:09:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f45.google.com with SMTP id c1so2998632eek.18 for ; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 10:09:01 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=Y0Xg8MQbHEYqzHBkpT6W+YNNqwRm0GrCZqbupyFzpKs=; b=xrLAZRgaFTmn6gjQNAjKc+tMRV+Q00WFF2JbEhxrEPihmhFZU6QxnqeBg/47TCEIrn 5rGw21SV+SOiUWtMph1c95ds25VhFZmDQyRdTqqqKvNU9K/Pp6nP8fgS9miLMCrEKJeh vdpBheJAM7lNfz/P/T7L8++PyhModLOYLdBZ0IWZZlNjomtiSjWWb9PuOfIdwYDe6LzA ppuFzIFD2Cwzx3uPaszUDU99t7KQowz3rb3lnVQdnytnvsqpsJb7dzf07hyW4dTaKp7i UzNZPOZLifkXhZfK6sm4LD+2zGK4M2D0wT48IfHQo7Jpj4yN5mJEgAN1C1xxsywlhpMc YGfQ== z43mr26474320eeu.24.1373303341130; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 10:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home (ip-109-85-129-52.web.vodafone.de. [109.85.129.52]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id n42sm43570811eeh.15.2013.07.08.10.08.59 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 08 Jul 2013 10:09:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'marty sukey'" , "'FOT'" References: Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 19:09:05 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac578OJWLyH5DjhwSw+nIdZ3HJun4QADOBPA Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Shirts, Time to pay! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Marty, I'm not sure what to do now? Any paypal way of payment? Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von marty sukey Gesendet: Montag, 8. Juli 2013 17:35 An: FOT Betreff: [Fot] Kastner Cup Shirts, Time to pay! Ok Folks, the 2013 Kastner Cup shirts have now been ordered and it is time to pay. It is up to each of you to contact Ted directly at TS Imported Automotive 800.543.6648 and make arrangements to pay. Those of you that requested shipped shirts will have, well, shipped shirts. All others will be picking up their shirts at Road America in September. We have orders for 170 shirts and 69 competitors names and car info going on the back of the shirts. Last year we had a record 53 competitors at the Mitty, this was blown out of the water for this years event. Should be fun. Marty _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 8 11:15:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D084044D for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 11:15:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s37.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s37.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7FF04009A for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 11:15:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W138 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s37.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 8 Jul 2013 10:15:06 -0700 From: marty sukey To: MadMarx , FOT Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 13:15:06 -0400 References: , <000901ce7bfd$dd0d1ed0$97275c70$@com> FILETIME=[B17641B0:01CE7BFE] Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Shirts, Time to pay! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Chris, you will need to contact Ted. All payment methods are between you guys. Marty > From: tr4racing@googlemail.com > To: trmarty@hotmail.com; fot@autox.team.net > Subject: AW: [Fot] Kastner Cup Shirts, Time to pay! > Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 19:09:05 +0200 > > Marty, > > I'm not sure what to do now? > Any paypal way of payment? > > Chris > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im > Auftrag von marty sukey > Gesendet: Montag, 8. Juli 2013 17:35 > An: FOT > Betreff: [Fot] Kastner Cup Shirts, Time to pay! > > Ok Folks, the 2013 Kastner Cup shirts have now been ordered and it is time > to pay. It is up to each of you to contact Ted directly at TS Imported > Automotive > 800.543.6648 and make arrangements to pay. Those of you that requested > shipped shirts will have, well, shipped shirts. All others will be picking > up their shirts at Road America in September. We have orders for 170 shirts > and > 69 competitors names and car info going on the back of the shirts. Last > year we had a record 53 competitors at the Mitty, this was blown out of the > water for this years event. Should be fun. > > > > Marty > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 8 12:35:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3729840511 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 12:35:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-relay-3.cniteam.com (omr-relay-3.cniteam.com [209.143.0.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB0A4032A for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 12:35:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rg7.cniteam.com (rg7.cniteam.com [209.143.0.247]) by omr-relay-3.cniteam.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r68IYsIL022760 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 14:35:34 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([216.201.14.237]) by rg7.cniteam.com (MOS 4.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id CAE00351 (AUTH tws@bright.net) for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 14:35:34 -0400 Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 14:35:36 -0400 From: Ted Schumacher User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <000901ce7bfd$dd0d1ed0$97275c70$@com> refid=str=0001.0A020202.51DB0676.00D1, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-09-13 19:33:14, dmn=2013-04-19 10:07:54, mode=single engine Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Shirts, Time to pay! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net KCup shirt payment. Please call, fax or email with your credit card - Visa/MasterCard or Discover. We prefer that you don't use PayPal. PayPal is an eBay cash cow that charges merchants twice teh rate of the other cards. Thanks for the great response. We are running an extra few shirts for those that have a "wish I would have bought one" moment. Will print these in most popular sizes - L and XL. Thanks, Ted On 7/8/2013 1:09 PM, MadMarx wrote: > Marty, > > I'm not sure what to do now? > Any paypal way of payment? > > Chris > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im > Auftrag von marty sukey > Gesendet: Montag, 8. Juli 2013 17:35 > An: FOT > Betreff: [Fot] Kastner Cup Shirts, Time to pay! > > Ok Folks, the 2013 Kastner Cup shirts have now been ordered and it is time > to pay. It is up to each of you to contact Ted directly at TS Imported > Automotive > 800.543.6648 and make arrangements to pay. Those of you that requested > shipped shirts will have, well, shipped shirts. All others will be picking > up their shirts at Road America in September. We have orders for 170 shirts > and > 69 competitors names and car info going on the back of the shirts. Last > year we had a record 53 competitors at the Mitty, this was blown out of the > water for this years event. Should be fun. > > > > Marty > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tedtsimx@bright.net > > > > -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx@bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 8 15:06:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F9E40512 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 15:06:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m05.mx.aol.com (omr-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A502D40046 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 15:06:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.5]) by omr-m05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 5B3197007F0C7 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 17:06:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.104] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 07813E000088 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 17:06:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 16:06:12 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1373317581; bh=ixyPKFNyEa0y7mW72t8IGRbK0Ilu3JwRJogqxZ/cJMQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=e3tLGhhaRit4+jaoH64L4rX+f5wwEZbtzMcy7XEdKiaW7DOCnWK9bznScCqWH414y 5+2MuIHMSERWWnxLDWDuqh6HUegpoOuoASwi+WCzWauOKWIxLDeGPllrg1Q0FMU1XW PjuP87mGO/puGbcCTQnMWZpEpS5dzyK051/U0HiE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290551db29cb6f6a Subject: [Fot] Road America Open Test Day. 5 September 2013 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I checked the RA website and they are currently showing an open test day for competitors. This is separate from VSCDA rental of the track and you must go through RA Sales to schedule yourself for this test day. This is a desirable feature for those folks who wish some test and tune time, track familiarization, or to get an intended co-driver some seat time before running the Enduro on Friday. The track will allow entry to the paddock area prior to VSCDA registration per their instructions. July is a very good month to sort these details out as it will be very difficult to deal with questions, answers, and resolutions in August. Regards, Joe Alexander _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 8 15:34:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB2240514 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 15:34:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm9-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm9-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C837A403F8 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 15:34:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.162] by nm9.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jul 2013 21:34:16 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.132] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jul 2013 21:34:16 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jul 2013 21:34:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 71081 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jul 2013 21:34:16 -0000 s=s1024; t=1373319256; bh=7HN4rGatqqtAgTuNyLstRLvDYqo1eevvgkjXfBpsRMA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wbYMmp/I7TPw3fLNbb81FAA8yUV+NMOdNj6JrLQHtZRjnzOQdOrWwXy/Lf28xb9c99IpRNEVvHShcTcIwv4tSINcdIbxAbkKg95IP8eBBGANDVX9iTfLHxY6paqzsQrdDfsCP1BW8hWqaJdYyBziqqoWFla8ab2l3tzyUCYfZ64= gYsN5HC5mSpni50XQWWxWw7oNstmX.zUoryHdsJ5VbbyEOZRioMxZRsLKt.B Ht1GrgP4_cZ9xtIzGL2kPWj51aZbPsSAGIoGKhUDRb.5BrTANz_lgXlprpF8 b1hC7x7mgJrDaC3kqsL2IgF2ScUqUCfC87D7GGpGxwsMQNSgZIhiASSeVLrE .T2tDcLn6GyjbwmHkFg.MbXeRaky5WbiKAMEEfp2_Byd7tX36xCYdamUkYfR A1ovJsFNB3iWmrbcCcLHPvCzE.IHKP41NEW8zHYchy4gSR2G.TvD6sOsv4YW VUrfa0o6IZB7jADBJfWFJb4M9Tj54RXiSOSPI56aH8VAJMI8ubfBSats30Bu uReduQ39TGIKpLF1Cd6mUKvGVj.bVUhJnuSQtAdOKhSka07J06LuLMz9WGuC JKS8.9G3ePRuxmxQe1kCfxzAop0sdEtsTPYNvjlRST1nzvWebl0BajUAyEIL zieOH8wd0PC3_X4.hzfv9xtpKLeweZ1kNUhjbcTRQsYb5SgygfXGIubguTRq cCM.pr1c- Received: from [162.198.152.23] by web182203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 14:34:15 PDT b2theSAuLiBJIGFkbWl0IGl0Li4gSSB3YXMgbGF0ZSBuaWdodCBzaG9wcGluZyBvbiBlQmF5IHdpdGggYSBiZWVyIGFuZCBib3VnaHQgYSBuZXcgb2xkIHN0b2NrIGNsdXRjaCBkaXNjIGZvciBteSBHVDYuLiBpdCBhcnJpdmVkIHRvZGF5IGluIHRoZSBvcmlnaW5hbCBzaGVsZiB3b3JuIGJveCBhbmQgaXQgbG9va2VkIG1vcmUgbGlrZSBpdCBzaG91bGQgZ28gaW4gYSBtdXNldW0gdmVyc3VzIGEgY2FyIEknbSB0cnlpbmcgdG8gbWFrZSBkbyB3aGF0IGl0IG5ldmVyIGRpZCBkby4uLi7CoCBydW4gYW5kIG5vdCABMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 14:34:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] clutch disc Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net okay .. I admit it.. I was late night shopping on eBay with a beer and bought a new old stock clutch disc for my GT6.. it arrived today in the original shelf worn box and it looked more like it should go in a museum versus a car I'm trying to make do what it never did do.... run and not blow up... shouldn't I just call Ted or Moss and order a new one, even the whole kit? Bobby Whitehead _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 8 15:49:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88C940512 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 15:49:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m05.mx.aol.com (omr-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED084003E for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 15:49:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by omr-m05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4B3107007F0EC; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 17:49:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dnc001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dnc001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.176.1]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id A6C93E000083; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 17:49:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Gt6steve@aol.com Full-name: Gt6steve Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 17:49:34 -0400 (EDT) To: igofaster@att.net, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1373320174; bh=g3NCIFmSZQHGIKjwlAZmlmRg815jCn2R7PSXY/iL6r0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Vv+QB5zQjU0JgoIXMH597v9QMQKSQ7qpzhz4+5quoxxgZrnc0mdXgbN95wWTkt33P ckn8TEmn7bloIBoLffh5w1G2JxyBtnTbAPh14pidgirVWbuhNUAq+at9Oc2Cnkdlqf u8Ga2h4I1w8wfRHGXJIAV/Ocvywd9WBAx18nDOX4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d51db33ee3ea3 Subject: Re: [Fot] clutch disc Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I don't know if it's still an issue but several years ago the cores were in short supply as they were out of production. I'll wager whatever we get now is inferior. The stock core can be relined with any manner of grippy stuff so you have something of value even if you don't trust the current lining.... In a message dated 7/8/2013 2:34:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, igofaster@att.net writes: okay .. I admit it.. I was late night shopping on eBay with a beer and bought a new old stock clutch disc for my GT6.. it arrived today in the original shelf worn box and it looked more like it should go in a museum versus a car I'm trying to make do what it never did do.... run and not blow up... shouldn't I just call Ted or Moss and order a new one, even the whole kit? Bobby Whitehead _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 8 17:03:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5551403FA for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 17:03:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm41-vm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm41-vm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.87.93]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7C5403FA for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 17:03:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.137.12.61] by nm41.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jul 2013 23:03:09 -0000 Received: from [208.71.42.203] by tm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jul 2013 23:03:08 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jul 2013 23:03:08 -0000 s=s1024; t=1373324588; bh=x/trlS8/UMDLakhnIaXmjedaaLdrn4zNJKiaR0u6S7E=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=hAcEaL+S2gqRr+T9LXrShgZTuKz+KXUvsIvXbiMuSPiRVFj7tMMAXfisGTOEd2J0n3kNrICzozzPV4alB2jk32l3aS5GFZDkJnTERcjqqhQzl/eUsqXxPNuFbd6l8b6li21SUTqQGPA9MMwS3xdYTV0+WKJi5f0W4OAHq/m1Fz4= KAU.DfQiVOC2AbzGXLIIe0fk7Do98wqyJXd.XpbBilole.b6SqXqlr1rkQzB 4myyJgYE7p9Ee4wtF3hkRM_sRmmhOA7e2piELNz2ctLrenRDsKRdVnbtfiHW CRjJ7ZYFBg4JxvHzjrJBsgkbAJ1PqPLKd4m6Yl1l12GA3GoVP8ltVAwcMV0b PVA2oDXvg9pU_Z3kpcC9ZAw4gsUMfau3a1uVWUfv2aMei2Xod0RuITM4C2R. Z5MIV7g_2ylZUyHkYcp35U9_lPfJzgaDPzeImYVIozXH6jVp7VWTw2Q4Dj4h _euB5EUI6TEsc9z10oB58Nxn8SwBlRvduM_EAk1r4bk3_2Iq_iTTzPlzydIq .RGGBPdcXvjtydq86JK1rio.tz2JOMCn1vZUJIHCES9X0Ik79bW3Q4snPOQo E6kfYfi8OM6JUSFBggrHO.prfXbysP0w3C63fvcYSe6DNRtr6JA2iW1itsrK Hh7u0g75EuZkscw8w..QmjxI3pz.GkU1BjOV3qxY_d6tY0E2jvfcoFCfkloo .o6M40LlVdkHHC7WrxtLOwTghpQluqMjH3wtSJUuF.e96pGFcIOIOqZfBhwp M_J0Tnj1hVTPZhwFa5x7gkoIK7pld5oyl5vNHeUHM with ) by smtp214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Jul 2013 23:03:08 +0000 UTC References: <20130705153200.13C9140533@autox.team.net> <20130705155152.B385540536@autox.team.net> <20130705160313.2D2D64044A@autox.team.net> <0314D41F308C481DAD491C59974F4FD4@hpd530> <003601ce7a46$b46bb4e0$1d431ea0$@net> <77EDF2C4978442B1BDBD68E786DED858@hpd530> From: Dale Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 19:03:07 -0400 To: Bill Tobin Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] PIRC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I will try to join you. Odd that 1296 spits are in group 5 and sprigets with 1275s are in 2. - Dale On Jul 7, 2013, at 8:30 PM, "Bill Tobin" wrote: > Hi Mike, I'll be there Thurs evening. I told Marty Sukey that I'd save him a spot. If I can save 3 or 4 we can have our own Getto! > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Moore" > To: "'Bill Tobin'" ; "'Tony Drews'" ; > Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 8:45 AM > Subject: PIRC > > >> Do you guys normally try to paddock together somewhere at PIRC? >> >> Thanks >> Mike >> >> Michael T. Moore, CPA >> 2007 West 32nd Street >> Erie, PA 16508 >> >> Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 >> Fax: 814-864-7383 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On >> Behalf Of Bill Tobin >> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 9:17 PM >> To: Tony Drews; fot@autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Videos from Blackhawk Farms June races >> >> If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. No use being a >> damned fool about it. >> W. C. Fields >> >> In response to the toe in question, I run 1/16 toe in. Seems to work. >> >> It looks like we will have several Triumphs at the PVGP event at >> BeaveRun/PIRC next weekend. We'll hope for dry weather. >> >> Cheers, Bill >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tony Drews" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 11:54 AM >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Videos from Blackhawk Farms June races >> >> >>> I have no idea why the links aren't going through. Last time I copied / >>> pasted from notepad and it still didn't go through. I'm going to try one >>> more time (next message) and then give up. >>> >>> Tony >>> >>> At 10:33 AM 7/5/2013, Tony Drews wrote: >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore@wave1.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dale.oesterle@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 8 17:16:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D1F44051B for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 17:16:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc3-s33.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc3-s33.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.108]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4002F403FA for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 17:14:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W140 ([65.55.116.72]) by blu0-omc3-s33.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 8 Jul 2013 16:14:19 -0700 From: marty sukey To: Dale , Bill Tobin Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 19:14:18 -0400 References: <20130705153200.13C9140533@autox.team.net>, <20130705155152.B385540536@autox.team.net>, <20130705160313.2D2D64044A@autox.team.net>, <0314D41F308C481DAD491C59974F4FD4@hpd530>, <003601ce7a46$b46bb4e0$1d431ea0$@net>, <77EDF2C4978442B1BDBD68E786DED858@hpd530>, <30A195E6-4DD2-410E-BC43-2F3DE44A28F3@sbcglobal.net> FILETIME=[DFE47990:01CE7C30] Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] PIRC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net They did that last time I was there (2 years ago). They have so many of the sprigets running they bumped all the spitfires up to group 5 to keep them together. I guess they figure we are all as fast as you. Boy do I have a surprise for them. :) Marty ---------------------------------------- > From: dale.oesterle@sbcglobal.net > Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 19:03:07 -0400 > To: william.tobin31@verizon.net > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] PIRC > > I will try to join you. Odd that 1296 spits are in group 5 and sprigets with > 1275s are in 2. > > - Dale > > On Jul 7, 2013, at 8:30 PM, "Bill Tobin" wrote: > >> Hi Mike, I'll be there Thurs evening. I told Marty Sukey that I'd save him a > spot. If I can save 3 or 4 we can have our own Getto! >> Bill >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Moore" >> To: "'Bill Tobin'" ; "'Tony Drews'" > ; >> Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 8:45 AM >> Subject: PIRC >> >> >>> Do you guys normally try to paddock together somewhere at PIRC? >>> >>> Thanks >>> Mike >>> >>> Michael T. Moore, CPA >>> 2007 West 32nd Street >>> Erie, PA 16508 >>> >>> Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 >>> Fax: 814-864-7383 >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On >>> Behalf Of Bill Tobin >>> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 9:17 PM >>> To: Tony Drews; fot@autox.team.net >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] Videos from Blackhawk Farms June races >>> >>> If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. No use being a >>> damned fool about it. >>> W. C. Fields >>> >>> In response to the toe in question, I run 1/16 toe in. Seems to work. >>> >>> It looks like we will have several Triumphs at the PVGP event at >>> BeaveRun/PIRC next weekend. We'll hope for dry weather. >>> >>> Cheers, Bill >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Tony Drews" >>> To: >>> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 11:54 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] Videos from Blackhawk Farms June races >>> >>> >>>> I have no idea why the links aren't going through. Last time I copied / >>>> pasted from notepad and it still didn't go through. I'm going to try one >>>> more time (next message) and then give up. >>>> >>>> Tony >>>> >>>> At 10:33 AM 7/5/2013, Tony Drews wrote: >>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>>> >>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>> >>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore@wave1.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dale.oesterle@sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 8 19:18:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0FF4044F for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 19:18:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955A240075 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 19:15:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.28.17]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MPN004WEA5Q3P40@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 20:15:27 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Bobby Whitehead" , "FoT Triumph" References: <1373319255.48923.YahooMailNeo@web182203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 21:15:22 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] clutch disc Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I had Ted S. have a disc made for me a couple years ago and it worked great. I've also used the Magic Clutch from TRF with good results. My 2 cents worth. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobby Whitehead" To: "FoT Triumph" Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 5:34 PM Subject: [Fot] clutch disc > okay .. I admit it.. I was late night shopping on eBay with a beer and > bought > a new old stock clutch disc for my GT6.. it arrived today in the original > shelf worn box and it looked more like it should go in a museum versus a > car > I'm trying to make do what it never did do.... run and not blow up... > shouldn't I just call Ted or Moss and order a new one, even the whole kit? > Bobby Whitehead > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 8 19:35:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11FAF40440 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 19:35:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.67]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93354403FA for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 19:34:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.163] by nm17.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jul 2013 01:34:51 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.138] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jul 2013 01:34:51 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1014.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jul 2013 01:34:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 42730 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Jul 2013 01:34:51 -0000 s=s1024; t=1373333691; bh=uT009SyGQqe7yzlwYJ0VCJzUvG3DeyNpmgDfV2xvqcE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ikq6wnUapHz6hdR+t31A0IUfsDEdt8wZRfIdeaWKhBUsk91z4tjqbgWxMuJec1UI5ai5U+z6QocT7B85sKDJoqjLOs1Yu34Yhi1FjHJVDaodnal1X31ffiOS4+WYiDMH6o3vurtuz8TX/iD5E8B505kM7u0eil4xmlnUAjE6IG0= cLhp1cEiuBcLuof11sSVr.RaMttWdoNOmd5gM.14ajkCv2dDQi6nKODe1IYe OOk0nKVgSISG3alf7YPMhrIebH4EBjJKAg0dO2scNHaq71sl_fCXu71LOgsT uv_O3u9o9UlD7NMR_wnQq.RAzxLhfvP7l50KTGsFHKf9_ntyKJH2r4F6MaO6 OIyeO.l7zxjQIk3ud3Aw4gUJjOb25esDHB_6xe11iNBF6ypV4OeLnzOD_FaS XctyvwFqYUu7r_yWOYExn7KZuJb_uN5OrTmv19Xlu8hO3__n_vQy97YHwNLJ FraWFRAPsNs_sUVYi3_HSnLYgPrhC8C2LyVMIq2EGzWvO8gHcakB7XVWQQcy r1QfY5cqSXpZj68Ck9OnGOK38n5hYj44K4rlP4b5SycbvBlOM4OeZmf5TZwi 3bgV7kY7pXxXaQDYldfL8QhLD6YMD1dDpu3eNc4HjXzwLlvfa29Y6MvvJD_d zRkWLz5PyBEBt6g8KbxqbHepfDCvXqudtqPq4EwhOWrj.gEwxDFAinWJZyG2 vP6h4gOpjS8U- Received: from [162.198.152.23] by web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 18:34:51 PDT YW55IHJlYXNvbiB0byB0aGluayB0aGUgVU5JUEFSVCBMYXljb2NrIGNsdXRjaCBkaXNjIHdvdWxkIG5vdCB3b3JrPyBWZXJ5IGxpZ2h0IHRhbiBtYXRlcmlhbCBzdXJmYWNlLi4uwqAgQm9iYnkKATABAQEB Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 18:34:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] gt6 clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net any reason to think the UNIPART Laycock clutch disc would not work? Very light tan material surface... Bobby _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 9 07:13:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973B940539 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 07:13:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s37.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s37.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.112]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217F24042C for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 07:13:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W93 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s37.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 9 Jul 2013 06:13:14 -0700 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:13:14 -0400 FILETIME=[11E26C70:01CE7CA6] Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Shirts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net There apears to be some confusion regarding if people have ordered shirts or not. To try and clear this up, I am sending an email to the email address you used to order the shirts telling you to pay. I will do this now. If you recieve this email you will know you ordered shirts. Please contact Ted and pay up. If you dont recieve the email, you did not order shirts. If you changed your email address since then, I dont know. Thanks, Marty _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 9 07:42:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 369F940539 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 07:42:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d02.mx.aol.com (omr-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F76940511 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 07:42:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.6]) by omr-d02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 48D41700A901B for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:42:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.104] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id C7568E00008B for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:42:16 -0400 (EDT) References: <7F6BBE4203B1E546B8909235DB19C6E03FD1047316@VMBX114.ihostexchange.net> From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:42:16 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1373377337; bh=/3GWA3GLjoYouzdon2SSxOtrvGhr56buhbRG1zMG+G4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=EKMbD7Ula8k4SPXRDI2h2n4kVr4hWAlIjcIbxwmxk8qKh1FITdxVCfMv0kkz6jJc4 U8B1nv91SdwtrWMy7OFk7r2lYRBGIQb6o127cdtZM8H8QuMDbzmajHBVrHAxRFfRmC IBTHn9Iv9Uoc6VUupWs5B7n5kRbkUcqQFxviQlxE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290651dc1337758b Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Lester Garages - Friends Of Triumph Rental. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is the answer from Road America on the Garages and the Road America Open Test Day on Thursday. See below. We were promised power in the garages and it hasn't been installed yet...but it will be. The test day is going to be an important feature for some of us. They just haven't posted the form and details yet. Do not confuse the Open Test Day with their spendy RATT program. Keep looking at the RA website....... Joe A. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Lori Bramstedt > Date: July 9, 2013, 8:31:39 AM CDT > To: Joe Alexander > Subject: RE: Lester Garages - Friends Of Triumph Rental. > > There will be power as promised. > > The test day should be available on our website in the near future. You can check back under "competitors", "test days" and then click on that date. If the form is there, you can sign up! > > Lori Bramstedt > Road America > Rentals & Hospitality Coordinator > > > Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 9 08:11:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992EA40539 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:11:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f179.google.com (mail-ve0-f179.google.com [209.85.128.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57E7403BC for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:11:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f179.google.com with SMTP id d10so4647973vea.38 for ; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 07:11:12 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=29SaYiD5RoPbosYzkq0tecFU7VFrfCPbYwfxdWUH/Xc=; b=UoS/UGq3rBrBm+ISJu63FPLlGSpUIqsUWvaZcZMQRPp2a69sQoGBDhg6yNmvavEAIN jW9cfOJd1KLs+F7kNPZYf0qEL7se9dyy66jWlomZqJ1CmYUcK74qj50H2HzDCtkHip4H XMgM43bUgi5yRVhWJnKTlLAelyMxeaKBBa0BCAlwMEuNVucx0IulpVMXqGIedrLlCAlM QIg4YD1rc8OkJx8m3T1rCKTLdfjcFG3X1+uzdYuBroIYcLaKX6PoBFHt1FQASSATNgh+ ubGV7LVvgVqp8IQ1QzaeLLzntxfjbOAiPzg+TQ0eRKLJaoCvAlvKQfGLjGL7hrgUcoIH nATw== st1mr16564011veb.71.1373379072403; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 07:11:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.77.41 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 07:11:12 -0700 (PDT) References: <1373333691.42635.YahooMailNeo@web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:11:12 -0500 From: Jason Ostrowski To: Bobby Whitehead Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] gt6 clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Probably a mix of asbestos and horse hair... It will be fine. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > any reason to think the UNIPART Laycock clutch disc would not work? Very > light > tan material surface... Bobby > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 9 08:23:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 399344053A for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:23:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d01.mx.aol.com (omr-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.252.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF41C4042C for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:23:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.2]) by omr-d01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7AF8A700544FE; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 10:23:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.104] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id EBDCCE000105; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 10:22:59 -0400 (EDT) References: <1373333691.42635.YahooMailNeo@web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:22:59 -0500 To: Jason Ostrowski x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1373379780; bh=M/UYV1Ni/TmI3AAOIyNlyRCeARR7U+rVul6DjgkvLdw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=w5nAKbwxEny/shM/rWDlmFFe0BIBPQZTEMAlZW3oRHna1T0HFQcD82MwcBmDsWOO9 SxcET3m3SiuCzZNs8JMJAl4YXETdDlrtKizfSkZh9kEj302YLDdZS/naztl0sHxD4Y Oe/jLtLjOy17LF95eYPHn0vAWE9S1M3Gf78c0zqM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290251dc1cc26c24 Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] gt6 clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Once again, there is a shop in Minnesota that is doing competition grade clutches that one of the Minnesota guys put us on to. Superior materials and oil resistance. I think Sean has been very happy with it and he has the address. Joe A Sent from my iPad On Jul 9, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > Probably a mix of asbestos and horse hair... > It will be fine. > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > >> any reason to think the UNIPART Laycock clutch disc would not work? Very >> light >> tan material surface... Bobby >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 9 09:25:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1EC640511 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:25:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCA4D4039F for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:25:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.99.14] (c-76-99-29-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [76.99.29.73]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MPO00DGUDHUPF00@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 15:25:14 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-07-09_06:2013-07-09,2013-07-09,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1305010000 definitions=main-1307090103 From: Scott Janzen Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 11:25:05 -0400 References: <1373333691.42635.YahooMailNeo@web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> To: Jason Ostrowski Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] gt6 clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've never had an issue with the stock GT6 clutch plates (or the TR7 one now running with the TR6 trans and GT6 flywheel set-up). BTW, I do have an NOS Borg and Beck pressure plate and disc in the box - disc splines compatible with the GT6, but not the Tr6 trans I now use. Any interest let me know. On Jul 9, 2013, at 10:11 AM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: Probably a mix of asbestos and horse hair... It will be fine. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > any reason to think the UNIPART Laycock clutch disc would not work? Very > light > tan material surface... Bobby > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 9 10:53:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293B240528 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 10:53:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5B0403BC for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 10:52:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130709165211.HDVO10448.mta21.charter.net@imp09>; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:52:11 -0400 Received: from wt09 ([209.225.8.59]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id yGsA1l00g1GRMdM05GsAQJ; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 12:52:10 -0400 a=9okyDgZqp55Pkq91s0rumA==:17 a=GcBDC4MYXWAA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=xs-b2I7pv1wA:10 a=b4TgfONAAAAA:8 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=llNscQH7UFBtiXjQXQgA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=waLcg52ezjEA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=kp3uRgNowesA:10 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=zdRuEmwNkDemIoCQL0WYIA==:117 Received: from [71.10.64.126] by enhanced.charter.net with HTTP; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:52:10 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:52:10 -0400 (EDT) From: jkhagen@charter.net To: Joe Alexander User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] gt6 clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Friends of Triumph, "The Clutch Doctor" is Trevor--651-674-4175--can build anything--but I like the ceramic button disc with 400HP spring centers--new- 3 years in oily TVR/MG--one year TR-4--John Hagen On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Once again, there is a shop in Minnesota that is doing competition > grade > clutches that one of the Minnesota guys put us on to. > > Superior materials and oil resistance. > > I think Sean has been very happy with it and he has the address. > > Joe A > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jul 9, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Jason Ostrowski > wrote: > >> Probably a mix of asbestos and horse hair... >> It will be fine. >> Jason Ostrowski >> Friendly Ghost Racing >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Bobby Whitehead >> wrote: >> >>> any reason to think the UNIPART Laycock clutch disc would not work? >>> Very >>> light >>> tan material surface... Bobby >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 9 10:53:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F6540406 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 10:53:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s21.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s21.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DC7403BC for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 10:52:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W27 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s21.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:52:25 -0700 From: marty sukey To: "cofrog@q.com" , FOT Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:52:24 -0400 References: , <1661845675.1815881.1373382305219.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> FILETIME=[B0208AC0:01CE7CC4] Subject: [Fot] Missed last call on shirts. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Dan and anybody else that missed last call on shirts. Sorry the orders have been submitted and the Marty store is now closed. However you could contact Ted directly and you might be able to sweet talk him into adding your name to the list. You might have a day or so to do that. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 9 11:25:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6BB40532 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 11:25:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50CA140406 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 11:25:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.193]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1D760700BAF6F; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 13:25:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.104] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 20AFFE0002FE; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 13:25:26 -0400 (EDT) References: <7f19a0dd.39c665.13fc458f266.Webtop.49@charter.net> From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:25:25 -0500 To: "jkhagen@charter.net" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1373390727; bh=U5Sk0OPvgNMmiNrFt9iv9Xxm3oDyr2xswB4zFXX3Q4U=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=w0I2NeMWO/G9FD11n2cHAAqkgqsxShFtMBcISA5ndD4SghG9o6JcCx4JjY1wtj+wa wAboU1+mh6vT+nxksNbMo67TJKP0FmRIqxy1gQEy+Glbf4C+FYv7vqSZXER0kpeoUp N7C9iLYnr9zURZFZmrQ9aUzqJu9QZqj3j2m6PCJ8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c151dc4784354d Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] gt6 clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That's it. Thanks John Hagen. The next clutch I get will be from Trevor, for another ceramic button disc. The price is right, too. And the service is good.....it's a Minnesota thing. Sent from my iPad On Jul 9, 2013, at 11:52 AM, jkhagen@charter.net wrote: > Friends of Triumph, "The Clutch Doctor" is Trevor--651-674-4175--can build anything--but I like the ceramic button disc with 400HP spring centers--new- 3 years in oily TVR/MG--one year TR-4--John Hagen > > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > >> Once again, there is a shop in Minnesota that is doing competition grade >> clutches that one of the Minnesota guys put us on to. >> >> Superior materials and oil resistance. >> >> I think Sean has been very happy with it and he has the address. >> >> Joe A >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Jul 9, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: >> >>> Probably a mix of asbestos and horse hair... >>> It will be fine. >>> Jason Ostrowski >>> Friendly Ghost Racing >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: >>> >>>> any reason to think the UNIPART Laycock clutch disc would not work? Very >>>> light >>>> tan material surface... Bobby >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 9 11:26:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472F24053C for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 11:26:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD24540536 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 11:25:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-bk0-f54.google.com with SMTP id it16so2479175bkc.27 for ; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 10:25:38 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=gG29pAl0SFqwHfiTKD3Hhf2PvpSYACiM2SjG6y87pHI=; b=zgkCe+RlzCW7QgZTGePz1d+iYbNznmBZr8PLWrRuo4a/+LRWga9Yyz/mj01Dx5hhqt +QYR1+dmT2A40oUdZYwPnpizn8ZnpLzVPJWgTJPMdzqToFeI7mhj7xhGwrifIzCZa0BF h/HHIW3EdWUwem/VtNQ6JyBPfQ6w4XohpcP2/iLG09UrdWT6d5JXhfqNsMAGrt3azvHN RkcLZT8rs81nA5FYcLoz9Tnq5p2AddpeyNwj5KAM+UXkJg/1jd7b0VMlMS/M3n6u0COy GmzgRbcfPB1DLgshnoAqve7VNYZ5Z+AQijEA1UnLpiud19C2HabH/HEp/4ZWEgoFwV3s ThqA== hf11mr4278708bkc.160.1373390737754; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 10:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home (ip-109-85-10-98.web.vodafone.de. [109.85.10.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hn4sm6079693bkc.2.2013.07.09.10.25.36 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Jul 2013 10:25:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Bobby Whitehead'" , "'FoT Triumph'" References: <1373319255.48923.YahooMailNeo@web182203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 19:25:35 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac58IvO4pROAK7wTQb29wZrkLpmqJwAphP2w Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] clutch disc Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I moved on to a proper racing unit from Tilton. Lightweight, small, rugged, noisy, and extreme reliable. I would never go back on a stock unit. The whole clutch with plate weighs in at 5 pounds. The stock unit on 23 pounds. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Bobby Whitehead Gesendet: Montag, 8. Juli 2013 23:34 An: FoT Triumph Betreff: [Fot] clutch disc okay .. I admit it.. I was late night shopping on eBay with a beer and bought a new old stock clutch disc for my GT6.. it arrived today in the original shelf worn box and it looked more like it should go in a museum versus a car I'm trying to make do what it never did do.... run and not blow up... shouldn't I just call Ted or Moss and order a new one, even the whole kit? Bobby Whitehead _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 9 11:30:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637134052D for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 11:30:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d10.mx.aol.com (omr-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D4940406 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 11:29:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.195]) by omr-d10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 24A1A700496D7; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 13:29:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.104] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 8A3A8E000350; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 13:29:55 -0400 (EDT) References: <1661845675.1815881.1373382305219.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:29:52 -0500 To: marty sukey x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1373390996; bh=glp2/eMEGkBPnch3Naruld1L2MVrsyMatkd1vseWH30=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=am3Qu9WqO3cBmSsJL1eZzrP6yq+lEorYDKrSF1LUCRYw+LfHwK8ywEBJ6vnc0HjlZ lsEW+4TVQKkOqIbxKUvAxEhg3z+gzaI0W2V+BjuYetOIl5AdTfjjpPcuqADOjsHBe/ +M+FP1fptJKLn/tcGYGd3JiCv34tC9EBqDR6JzYM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c351dc48914f0b Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Missed last call on shirts. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ted indicated he was going to over produce to take care of stragglers, etc. We likely could get rid of those for Ted in the FOT Garages, if he wishes. Sent from my iPad On Jul 9, 2013, at 11:52 AM, marty sukey wrote: > Dan and anybody else that missed last call on shirts. Sorry the orders have > been submitted and the Marty store is now closed. However you could contact > Ted directly and you might be able to sweet talk him into adding your name to > the list. You might have a day or so to do that. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 9 12:03:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E6D840536 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:03:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail202c2.megamailservers.com (mail202c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21FAC4052A for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:03:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail202c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r69I2jIs022988; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 14:02:50 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: "'MadMarx'" , "'Bobby Whitehead'" , "'FoT Triumph'" References: <1373319255.48923.YahooMailNeo@web182203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <002901ce7cc9$53525b20$f9f71160$@com> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 14:02:44 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac58IvO4pROAK7wTQb29wZrkLpmqJwAphP2wAAFYDJA= a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=GapqndIUqCfP6RftwxQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=wft9HtnDdP5t60-9:21 a=RnvAlzuMfalgqElk:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] clutch disc Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Our SPEC Stage 3 unit has been in service for 2 yrs. Around 16 races and is still fine. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of MadMarx Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 1:26 PM To: 'Bobby Whitehead'; 'FoT Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] clutch disc I moved on to a proper racing unit from Tilton. Lightweight, small, rugged, noisy, and extreme reliable. I would never go back on a stock unit. The whole clutch with plate weighs in at 5 pounds. The stock unit on 23 pounds. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Bobby Whitehead Gesendet: Montag, 8. Juli 2013 23:34 An: FoT Triumph Betreff: [Fot] clutch disc okay .. I admit it.. I was late night shopping on eBay with a beer and bought a new old stock clutch disc for my GT6.. it arrived today in the original shelf worn box and it looked more like it should go in a museum versus a car I'm trying to make do what it never did do.... run and not blow up... shouldn't I just call Ted or Moss and order a new one, even the whole kit? Bobby Whitehead _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 9 12:12:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6290640530 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:12:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d10.mx.aol.com (omr-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8119403BC for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:12:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.4]) by omr-d10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 077B070049AA1 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 14:12:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.104] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 90DF2E001F04 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 14:12:09 -0400 (EDT) References: <2212d65a.967c56.13fc4967291.Webtop.47@charter.net> From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 13:12:08 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1373393530; bh=6/sY4R0peRVb3Sce/S76u0JzIWUsup/JnVQREi/JvUk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=tQdZXlN4MENKlDksj0cPHMmsJdd0pitymoK+ACqkiw0zZbr6QrKlIibO25E1Qjbmt aKWu7/aqkoacSCsRmdmeX2ARTHXQOKBOXGWkVibGrr6uHPpNpvX1WbQ9zRDYLVffL/ oOwbo9v0IxuhdEMxLodGndm6eqoFTj0ytYcn9xFo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290451dc52783bf5 Subject: [Fot] Entry Forms are now on VSCDA website! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net See below from Deb K. Follow her instructions below. Review as soon as possible. July is a better month to sort things out. There is so much going on in August, that key people may not be available. Thanks......Joe A Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > > Hi Joe, > > The entry form is up on the website. The easy way to register is by hitting the red button on the main page but it isn't there yet. So go to the ELVF page, go to forms and click and then choose the entry form. > > Thanks, > Deb _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 9 12:25:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DEB84052D for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:25:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-relay-3.cniteam.com (omr-relay-3.cniteam.com [209.143.0.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539DB403F6 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:23:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rg7.cniteam.com (rg7.cniteam.com [209.143.0.247]) by omr-relay-3.cniteam.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r69IN0Hh023030 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 14:23:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([216.201.14.237]) by rg7.cniteam.com (MOS 4.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id CAE41925 (AUTH tws@bright.net) for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 14:22:59 -0400 Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 14:23:04 -0400 From: Ted Schumacher User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 To: FOT refid=str=0001.0A020203.51DC5504.0127, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-09-13 19:33:14, dmn=2013-04-19 10:07:54, mode=single engine Subject: [Fot] clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi List. With all the discussion of clutch disc's, here is one of several styles we supply. The problem with the OE style disc is the "fingers" that radiate out from the hub to hold the friction material are really thin metal. The fingers tear and you're left with the hub spinning around the input shaft but no forward movement. Not good! This disc uses larger take-up springs to dampen initial shock load when engaging. If you look at the construction, disc has much thicker and more metal supporting the friction material than a stock clutch disc. Not quite as good as a solid center paddle style disc but certainly gentler on the drive line. Disc is available with a large variety of hubs for your application - 1 1/8" 10 spline, 1" x 10, 1" x 23, etc. Lead time to build is about a week. We also have solid center, paddle style clutches available. Thanks, Ted -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx@bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_0094.jpg] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 9 12:40:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D61D4052D for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:40:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-relay-3.cniteam.com (omr-relay-3.cniteam.com [209.143.0.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C5640338 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:36:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rg7.cniteam.com (rg7.cniteam.com [209.143.0.247]) by omr-relay-3.cniteam.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r69IaMpH024377 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 14:36:51 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([216.201.14.237]) by rg7.cniteam.com (MOS 4.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id CAE42648 (AUTH tws@bright.net) for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 14:36:50 -0400 Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 14:36:55 -0400 From: Ted Schumacher User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 To: FOT refid=str=0001.0A020201.51DC5842.00EE, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-09-13 19:33:14, dmn=2013-04-19 10:07:54, mode=single engine Subject: [Fot] clutch disc pictuerr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net List, sorry. I forgot that things are stripped form emails. Bobby Whitehead is graciously sending out the picture of the disc.Sorry for my error. Ted -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx@bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 9 12:42:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534F5403F6 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:42:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE0B403F3 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:41:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF2DA1908 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:41:55 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 12:41:55 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: FOT References: <51DC5847.30006@bright.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] clutch disc pictuerr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ted Schumacher wrote: > List, sorry. I forgot that things are stripped form emails. Bobby > Whitehead is graciously sending out the picture of the disc.Sorry for > my error. Ted > Send the picture to me and I can put it where everyone can see it. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 9 12:44:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE3940530 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:44:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm23-vm9.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm23-vm9.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.168]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3FD2403F3 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:44:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.165] by nm23.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jul 2013 18:44:44 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.125] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jul 2013 18:44:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1001.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jul 2013 18:44:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 71601 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Jul 2013 18:44:44 -0000 s=s1024; t=1373395484; bh=+4IovMBgOF8GHOwQHyy6tMFYZ6Dp68rjFcuZQVu/g24=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=stEOF4RP4Uua0xttGRa1k2WgINXBZjjk6LFCitGSg1pLMnubocxOg6PSmhReGtiaoBbSYpJNNx1wtDxHmNlrh0xGwbnU9KO7GzpnmOJgzODjVyyMzQluyk/+aDULYcAlOf+w4ZJa5Ft+CoHZ7QxaVapjWg7bWeBI1yDvxhiquls= Ij0jogj.3aXpvPSiCLDZB_6CAD.Vz6XB_FlaiBFJ7OeLR2DEMmVjS9SvjFBZ YvnBBcQJ9PdIGkv6bJwro1igoAGlL0aQojE9vXO3tGKUVnnznXZ451hs9Eh3 2eZXTiLW.89MGIS2q8y84O_4pdxGI2LlH8L93dENeHjBbsqvJNOSxlY8bRR. sofC31xYtODfNTj1f4uPMjMeqykbCxvRr2KYmQ8wIjs8pdspEWDN6UE5aX5W nsw4fCNSul1jrKH9qzr4AmlO3tu_Wbp8hV.1lkarGdhCyvOOMRJCx.gDwRGu .HbLH7L0YXNL2ObM.yi.aMGf0lrkOu0uv5m_ggrqB_n2Y5sVIb2TT4AZ0Quo NCY5tYloBmp6Guj_2j6TqjLA.Si2CH4aNDL8v6XCSgQMxVl_smBayl_U__sy wVwhBTuFM0QDaf1rQG2T9kVQ14TPC9RO69RhCxERXl4RzvXMp9.ut57qqH0. II0R0wxhXFhb_xURs4udnJ8YhNVQj9VwjArCnr2ZWY5ijwrf6NJ1d9ypgpsK OI2QH3E_t9HT6 Received: from [162.198.152.23] by web182203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 11:44:44 PDT SSdsbCBwb3N0IGEgcGljdHVyZSBvZiBUZWQncyBjbHV0Y2ggb24gbXkgZmFjZWJvb2sgcGFnZSBpZiBpbnRlcmVzdGVkLi4uwqAgQm9iYnkgV2hpdGVoZWFkwqAgV2VhdGhlcmZvcmQgVGV4YXMKATABAQEB Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 11:44:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph , Ted Schumacher Subject: [Fot] TSI Clutch PIX Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'll post a picture of Ted's clutch on my facebook page if interested... Bobby Whitehead Weatherford Texas _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 9 14:59:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675A740530 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 14:59:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A6D5403F6 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 14:55:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBCD5A1908 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 14:55:28 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 14:55:28 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] TSI clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Here's a pic: http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=159 mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 9 21:59:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F5E4053F for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 21:59:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm25-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm25-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8174540521 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 21:58:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.162] by nm25.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jul 2013 03:58:57 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.126] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jul 2013 03:58:57 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1002.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jul 2013 03:58:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 15124 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jul 2013 03:58:56 -0000 s=s1024; t=1373428736; bh=aYHS1jSWprwtWdAxxM3bmFD1kauI4arXVr81DrueuEw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=59oXCpOFFq6drHjYlHfW5KrKYtmt8zMLvN2R9ixVpdI8Ljjq+juRUKHuUWMt53/1lO/iXvqb8/jj/UWut7qH/Be4iXKwOS1+80RBdatSHNna5vfUe3uIbtEj33EOV5XjWXvWeBN/MpytRY/PCalgBAV3s7q5qTNGJC9sBKx/U5U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=e0zLDec6P67O2zvdXyA/UlLZlb9yBlVEiQnJBlg5eWwfjTXecdhJLM8Y0Z/VY0xKfvLf8wrpiNWwcG3TTc+/gtE2y/NVU/W7qkLWIomE3SsrOngGQpUmogrCSFzjlEIhkL/+8GFCoGctoANGyOOrpx4fMfebLQdU0NmNL3zHHXs= ; NAACZPMzL6tNnTL0zShVKn_msyc5tDA5kLRv6ciqwiyhALQy_O8voDfrlX6c TkKnA_lr7rXL6vxoM90mhUdrkC9eP2EhUWa_OTorexrtbE8HlJMgOcXIbtLr V4bwYbVmSP8lB70Ftf31wzVk_rJq1rvo6eQdU0PBqLJ.Xgpi81hhI2N2hjGO vdcStaOnrkNOGYMctkrpHXOw4cFtLNNLUSlcBTY232VCH8nHd_2I.3C5i.L0 mGTyo6jxruWJjA9ZOuRSegQn_GDwzRqiBuEVhWn2dY2p6vMVfK1aTca_jqla 2w3t8gza33ChZFKa7CJqb9oDw5u6zm6gYEitfOb1sl5ZXN7ZJHz5uSXGS02Z nzEz.b1tdJkXsXhbzLFqrMVdlHODZvWRElnFBi2vPmD0PrWHtNXisnEGHx4y 1.IgxqfJblePhOq2169Bax3RZZPjkoAWlTVgYwHMzHVWdcjtoiWrU.uetmRR WNbHNH40W.ywDBGGsD6Jl3GA4v.prJRRJV4vXZsYlnZhKdWmZDCGpj5BMGvs GgTNV9pNxWAe98b99hGB3xcSiD2pNIw.A0deX4pFWgPcU0_IBmQ-- Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web181403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 20:58:56 PDT TGlzdGVyczogCkRvZXMgYW55b25lIGhhdmUgYW4gaW50YWtlIG1hbmlmb2xkIGZvciBhIFRSMiB3aXRoIGEgbG93IHBvcnQgaGVhZD8gSSBhbSByZXN0b3JpbmcgYW4gZWFybHkgVFIyIGFuZCBpdCBoYWQgYSAiMyIgZW5naW5lLiBJJ3ZlIGxvY2F0ZWQgdGhlIHByb3BlciBoZWFkLCBhbmQgdGhlIGNhcmJzIHNob3VsZCBiZSBhbiBlYXN5IGZpbmQuLi5pdCdzIHRoZSBtYW5pZm9sZCB0aGF0IEkgZG9uJ3QgaGF2ZS4KVGh4Ci1FZC0BMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 20:58:56 -0700 (PDT) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Manifold needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Listers: Does anyone have an intake manifold for a TR2 with a low port head? I am restoring an early TR2 and it had a "3" engine. I've located the proper head, and the carbs should be an easy find...it's the manifold that I don't have. Thx -Ed- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 9 22:46:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA414052D for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 22:46:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm10-vm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm10-vm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA614041C for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 22:45:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.157] by nm10.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jul 2013 04:45:50 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.57] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jul 2013 04:45:50 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp110.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jul 2013 04:45:50 -0000 s=s1024; t=1373431550; bh=UgVpkk3iRWq0Mu+ZemH3vh382x8i+5wL4C2r9r7K9Uc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=jJ/gOxL2bNT7Im9XZmnqx60qso9f0Dg4yKIJjYjh7zMValldEWjCPqRk5hg1fC/nUfjstMpqDjAzdshDpOXr7TJQs9ZckYryrTABltQg/DVwLT/VeI0DkwQIr70dlSDSSAw/U80ZUCg1aOSwWHutd+P77WK1MY0fwLsvdcP95NE= FSLs4KrFdWITc7jwYIAam0KgeWPvNqpFOZpbJ6qmKoQ8_ovPRzNrE4EXWrRX 62IQFkU9umfY7iTWt4OM9XODqjONXAtayI4iRfPi589ky7vrIhAlYUl0bsqU HzheRqNeLPLFDxlTzikTYEyWOwwnd_6.Je_wWY3UQW7c77DuXUTGDfS0YoaN Fo_BoDvp6I.m6VTTvUtkPOXUEUI1c4kQIcT.DOn4vympnLFDFvJQC3nlGdkT 5OzWjK..eEYrnT7NoK4tfSEr5ieR.f9sUGFJIh_DLXauob7P_hz8t4uvqcIO ZV2bFzoRdDKcTDTc4yHms88kVVJ9XRADH2ZN18ovHylyBcqDRuWMxY8NGxKW a2j1LaOrcO4UUPE9JbG5UxFsD6vZvWECcPbj2lpFV7ZV4SG5kVTfPgBMWgoi pHAMs_kFsaWRklGXLIABbUieesy92g2iUXQBc5PyZQGgnYCNXgMunECKvs6z XyX3yfOw- smtp110.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 09 Jul 2013 21:45:49 -0700 PDT From: "Jack Brooks" To: Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 21:45:50 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac59J8iyHDCNGyF4SAKd8X3ll3zsrw== Subject: [Fot] Pictures from Pacific Raceway 6-7 July Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Gents, I have a number of photos of the Triumphs from Saturday and Sunday from this past weekend's Sovren Historics. Please respond directly to me with an email and I'll get them to you. I have photos of Chuck A., Bill B., Steve H., John J., Mike M., Charly M., Jeff Q. Also, while I have an email address for Bill H. (Thanks Tony G.) I don't know who was driving the #6 Devin. I have some pictures of him too. If you know who and have an email address please let me know. It was great seeing (almost) all of you this weekend; I never did find you Steve - sorry! I look forward to sharing these pictures with you guys. Jack _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 10 05:59:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F1640532 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 05:59:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D8F40338 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 05:55:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f172.google.com with SMTP id wo10so8412335obc.3 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 04:55:06 -0700 (PDT) h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=YOtpVXi80YXR13eAMdOalgrY2/2pSLjdgW0AnxKrGK8=; b=l4qb7rfdqMo2EPtaNsMfCD0pwOvccQ505xk0BgF9hi8bWc9PCJ0Sid20bgCXJ6EXQP ymVJSsq3L61Zvll1HIQitcqtdEu0U4IY700UNdrE2B1zFRuZFCAsxiDQD/hLvwROmLkI uLgwXIvlwvm3q9W+46J48ylt5l1h96+szlsTXXwslgDm2YfUrETsbkSoX8iAaf9/qmUG b3+ZhrkWt7Ve3mwJjvewCER78hteqYTf1HBOGtpO2KJy8Ueuo8fa6gcAX6dY3zmzyNCQ 6I32LLbtIcvjyDLYpCmg/DikWzWZoCypR9w11kvdrb6MSqj0Fp3SOc3wmf9LM12IFOol xmcA== le4mr27680856obb.57.1373457306268; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 04:55:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.5] (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id rs4sm43201557obc.10.2013.07.10.04.55.05 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 10 Jul 2013 04:55:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 06:55:01 -0500 References: <51D6D709.4040509@cfl.rr.com> To: Bob Davis Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 - TR4 parts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bob, did you find someone with a breather tube? Duncan (Texas) On Jul 5, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Bob Davis wrote: > I am in need of an engine block breather tube and a good dipstick. Any > out there that can be bought? > > thxx, > Bob > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 10 07:38:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C08740531 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 07:38:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail202c2.megamailservers.com (mail202c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0CF1403F5 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 07:35:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail202c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r6ADZmo1022480; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 09:35:54 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: "'EDWARD BARNARD'" , "'FOT'" References: <1373428736.10741.YahooMailNeo@web181403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 09:35:47 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac59Id8OwLTIX6ueSJK3mR5RLU5i2gAUE1fg a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=42ry0a8KF11pgBKCqB8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=2x0J3UTqZwYA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=5asET3OyU4VtJZTU:21 a=TBb76PGyyuBN9kwa:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] Manifold needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Try Don Trammell 864 787 0622 he will have carbs for sure. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of EDWARD BARNARD Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 11:59 PM To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Manifold needed Listers: Does anyone have an intake manifold for a TR2 with a low port head? I am restoring an early TR2 and it had a "3" engine. I've located the proper head, and the carbs should be an easy find...it's the manifold that I don't have. Thx -Ed- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 10 07:40:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F07440544 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 07:40:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A4940417 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 07:40:50 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=qjzfVL5oJ2smacjBRN8wQg==:17 a=zXbv6eY0kPgA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=vjcL0eIivzsA:10 a=lcFKycKxAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=cZm_XMDBW2xKb7Dnzh4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=d2ijSB9aOkYA:10 a=qjzfVL5oJ2smacjBRN8wQg==:117 Received: from [166.147.66.11] ([166.147.66.11:50333] helo=[10.194.128.168]) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 7C/12-15971-0646DD15; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:40:49 +0000 References: <1373428736.10741.YahooMailNeo@web181403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: Bob Kramer Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 08:40:45 -0500 To: EDWARD BARNARD Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Manifold needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ed I might have what you are looking for, got a bunch. Do you have a casting number or a picture reference? Bob Kramer Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2013, at 10:58 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Listers: > Does anyone have an intake manifold for a TR2 with a low port head? I am restoring an early TR2 and it had a "3" engine. I've located the proper head, and the carbs should be an easy find...it's the manifold that I don't have. > Thx > -Ed- > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 10 10:27:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495F64052D for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 10:27:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mercury.fastbytes.com (mercury.fastbytes.com [216.183.230.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19510403BC for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 10:27:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from TimDellVostro [192.200.136.236] by mercury.fastbytes.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.00) id AB721AA600F8; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:27:30 -0500 From: "Tim Murphy" To: "'EDWARD BARNARD'" , "'FOT'" References: <1373428736.10741.YahooMailNeo@web181403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:29:23 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac59IvJugssf6MJ3RLiE7p+VU+9NkQAZ4FKA Content-Language: en-us Organization: FastBytesWireless Inc. Subject: Re: [Fot] Manifold needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I think we have one but I'm also not sure what to look for. Please send info on manifold to me also and I'll take a look. Tim -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of EDWARD BARNARD Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 10:59 PM To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Manifold needed Listers: Does anyone have an intake manifold for a TR2 with a low port head? I am restoring an early TR2 and it had a "3" engine. I've located the proper head, and the carbs should be an easy find...it's the manifold that I don't have. Thx -Ed- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph@fastbytes.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 10 11:51:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7936840531 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:51:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E779E40338 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:50:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.87]) by qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ye6q1l0041smiN4A7hqNl8; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 17:50:22 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([24.22.75.60]) by omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yhqM1l00Y1J37AG8ghqNcB; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 17:50:22 +0000 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 10:50:21 -0700 From: Jim Norlin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: fot@autox.team.net References: s=q20121106; t=1373478622; bh=luUluL4zA9sBSbfPnf+hVq3+i/OP7Upoe+DaEnB42Rs=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=in+6f68IuKlNSfbb0deVWOTvBts861v5tsmez68bO0tizuhiBN+onU7fOiIVJ58FC Cb959giLyiC/LVf3y/m1L1VPc6MFOWXAcEKhHxM1vV1v3Vp7oXzNGWuPFuCsXC94bW 7ttYvkt1gXHozczJ35iI2OsuBudYRxI4VQbTpJzmtw1iAnDSkqIW/sY6MsmRU1YwMY ePHR5s9Dm1oxu2jlFkCtAwoe6jmbKN11IU0WbjkZ+qPjMWO2VVMnp07n83J85qjUI5 Wm4N9yVL3OHrsUnFa1OCwv9SyvGXrCTG48YShAcvBoG2UUvynCp4SoV070YR36x9P+ G0JB714ZO4aUA== Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear End Ratios Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Finally catching up on old e-mails. This may not be totally relevant to the TR3, but I'll toss it out for the group. We normally run a 4.11 in our Spitfire and it works great at Portland without the chicane and at Seattle, both long straights. When we went to the runoffs in 2010, I put together a 3.89 thinking I may over rev on the long straights at RA. Bottom line is we couldn't pull that high of a ratio and went back to the 4.11, which worked great. Jim On 7/1/2013 9:57 AM, john hasty wrote: > The overall ratio we have in the TR3A is 3.7 achieved with a 4.1 rear end > and overdrive. At VIR, Road Atlanta, Savanna and Mid Ohio, all with long > straights, we are turning 6200 at the end of each of them. Elkhart Lake has > longer straights and we are concerned that we might need a taller rear end > gear. If we put 3.7 rear end gears in we would have an overall ratio of > 3.66 which I believe would produce 800rpm less or the same as turning > 7000rpm with the 4.1. I can't turn 7000 with a stock crank so; Does anyone > with experience at Elkhart have a suggestion? What do you run there? > Thanks guys/gals...... > > John H. Hasty > Attorney At Law > Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. > 719 East Boulevard > Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 > Tele: (704) 372-5600 > Fax: (704) 372-4601 > E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com > www.gdhs.com > > PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is > intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that > is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. > If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message > and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. > > IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations > regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, > any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) > is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of > (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, > marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter > addressed herein. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/norlinengineering@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 10 12:10:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D8B240549 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 12:10:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail202c2.megamailservers.com (mail202c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C8F40046 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 12:03:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail202c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r6AI3EXM003219; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 14:03:20 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: "'Jim Norlin'" , References: <51DD9EDD.9000400@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 14:03:12 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac59lh1F6Cj8kBu2RC2hsYqf1nlTpQAAXQ2Q a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=BJ4MlnecI61texYc6nUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=akkXTQFTL0FOoDWx:21 a=KQ_wzEXQzAgfqiRl:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear End Ratios Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The group wisdom was to leave the 4.55 in place; but I find that there is a 4.31 available from England and am pondering that.... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Norlin Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:50 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear End Ratios Finally catching up on old e-mails. This may not be totally relevant to the TR3, but I'll toss it out for the group. We normally run a 4.11 in our Spitfire and it works great at Portland without the chicane and at Seattle, both long straights. When we went to the runoffs in 2010, I put together a 3.89 thinking I may over rev on the long straights at RA. Bottom line is we couldn't pull that high of a ratio and went back to the 4.11, which worked great. Jim On 7/1/2013 9:57 AM, john hasty wrote: > The overall ratio we have in the TR3A is 3.7 achieved with a 4.1 rear > end and overdrive. At VIR, Road Atlanta, Savanna and Mid Ohio, all > with long straights, we are turning 6200 at the end of each of them. > Elkhart Lake has longer straights and we are concerned that we might > need a taller rear end gear. If we put 3.7 rear end gears in we would > have an overall ratio of > 3.66 which I believe would produce 800rpm less or the same as turning > 7000rpm with the 4.1. I can't turn 7000 with a stock crank so; Does anyone > with experience at Elkhart have a suggestion? What do you run there? > Thanks guys/gals...... > > John H. Hasty > Attorney At Law > Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. > 719 East Boulevard > Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 > Tele: (704) 372-5600 > Fax: (704) 372-4601 > E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com > www.gdhs.com > > PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any > attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may > contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. > If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that > any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If > you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies > of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. > > IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS > regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly > stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication > (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and > cannot be used, for purposes of > (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) > promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction > or matter addressed herein. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/norlinengineering@comcast.ne > t _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 10 13:14:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4B540543 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:14:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta41.charter.net (mta41.charter.net [216.33.127.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC5540417 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:14:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130710191408.SBFR10143.mta41.charter.net@imp10>; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 15:14:08 -0400 Received: from wt06 ([209.225.8.46]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id yjE81l0090zbdDt05jE8HF; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 15:14:08 -0400 a=6OfnzAXicMuM/nPloKd9sg==:17 a=GFdYMyUThMAA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=vjcL0eIivzsA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=hvol-pegAAAA:8 a=6VFSQ3NjRH4i7kLlCwgA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=trB5EUPcYpQA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=6OfnzAXicMuM/nPloKd9sg==:117 Received: from [24.176.24.67] by enhanced.charter.net with HTTP; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 15:14:07 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 15:14:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Kelley To: Tim Murphy User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: 'FOT' Subject: Re: [Fot] Manifold needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If you need a picture I have an early TR2 with a low port head. The biggest difference is that the H4 SU's use a two (2) bolt flange to mount not four (4). Jeff Kelley On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Tim Murphy wrote: > I think we have one but I'm also not sure what to look for. Please > send > info on manifold to me also and I'll take a look. > > Tim > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of EDWARD BARNARD > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 10:59 PM > To: FOT > Subject: [Fot] Manifold needed > > Listers: Does anyone have an intake manifold for a TR2 with a low port > head? I am > restoring an early TR2 and it had a "3" engine. I've located the > proper > head, and the carbs should be an easy find...it's the manifold that I > don't > have. > Thx > -Ed- > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph@fastbytes.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffreykelley@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 10 13:25:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263B040545 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:25:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d08.mx.aol.com (omr-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.207]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA6440423 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:25:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by omr-d08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id C2E45700028F6; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 15:25:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtc003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtc003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.9]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 7D2F2E000087; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 15:25:46 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 15:25:46 -0400 (EDT) To: jeffreykelley@charter.net, timmurph@fastbytes.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1373484346; bh=RDAzQYN+TGluhc2ll6YsSv/6nQKgjbL6OEkwWeeZyn8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IhaQgpu8oKK+FPZLocJzE7g6hVhU1FeMh59Wwvl2b3qVSRWu6qYkwcKgrulNJ4+RX Y/vN8LfADpYezgAgj+j4zgbKq+dEmdlhR4LQF6FXzZkguAPMMUnp4PCjcrcg1W9l0U nMjfYOFKm5SzlotmiFNGp1qVcAsNOlgWICCimgNo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb51ddb53a687f Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Manifold needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 07/10/2013 2:14:15 PM Central Daylight Time, jeffreykelley@charter.net writes: > If you need a picture I have an early TR2 with a low port head. The > biggest difference is that the H4 SU's use a two (2) bolt flange to > mount not four (4). > > There's a pretty clear picture of all three in the MOSS catalogue. I am looking at the Manifolds Page (page 15)_ in the Spring/Summer 2010 TRIUMPH TR2-4 book, but its the same picture that always appears in their TR2-4 catalogues. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 10 14:23:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7989E40439 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 14:23:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 414BB40439 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 14:22:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8D74A1909 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 14:22:50 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 14:22:50 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup car sharing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Some funky formatting in translating the original format to HTML, but you should be able to understand this: http://www.team.net/share.html mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 10 15:02:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 003E640545 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 15:02:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d10.mx.aol.com (omr-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B477403F5 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 15:02:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by omr-d10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B58B9700498B7; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 17:02:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtc003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtc003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.9]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 79FA1E000086; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 17:02:03 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 17:02:03 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1373490123; bh=LfzuXJmRlj7P6r8UXHlEzcUL1iBAID6PwFAd+SHXV8Q=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eY9yu9LvB/Cysg08o4Wlyko3dWjfgycg6W6sYLBXIKPqs3xPHAUNG/ZOkwNYoruo4 Nis6P4aYQzSHgqaMN872qmZvx/YROhqJ7+o4YfxT2gNGdBMZaHdySmPFyystxVJLug QA6nM3E8IRDo5dd6YEizZFULUxlfoH3uLU1nKZBo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b51ddcbcb3ad9 Cc: rdwismer@mchsi.com Subject: [Fot] VSCDA's 'approved and registered' Driver policy... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici... Joe Alexander and I have been working with the VSCDA Event Chair who runs the Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival (ELVF) for the Vintage Sports Car Drivers Association to ensure we understand their current policy on 'racecar sharing' in general and at Road America in particular. Quick and dirty, except for an 'approved and registered' CO-driver in the Enduro Race, there is no 'racecar sharing' at ELVF. So Joe and I drafted a Microsoft WORD document that describes the VSCDA rule and its whys and wherefores. Webmaster, Mark Bradakis, has posted it for us at: http://www.team.net/share.html You can cut and paste it into your browser to look it over. Mark tells me that during the conversion from WORD to HTML there were some issues. I looked it over and it seems to occur wherever an apostrophe was used. We mostly used an apostrophe before and after the words 'approved and registered', and in possessives. It seems to replace an apostrophe with the letter 'a' and some other gobbly-gook. But the content remains pretty clear. Anyone who has difficulty with it, and still has a concern, contact me Off List and I'll send you an original copy of the Microsoft WORD document. Sorry for any confusion concerning this matter, but everyone's best interests will be served if these and as many other similar matters are addressed out front and before we get to ROAD AMERICA. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 10 17:11:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5486C4054B for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 17:11:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm13-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm13-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.251]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31D464043F for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 17:09:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.171] by nm13.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jul 2013 23:09:53 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.250] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jul 2013 23:09:53 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1021.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jul 2013 23:09:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 49329 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jul 2013 23:09:52 -0000 s=s1024; t=1373497792; bh=08IfikCdg3K6Hc0yvhg+6McK8PtmIOfWsfKECSduay4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=57q2q1IN9tRt65TDvOYiQCUBanVg6AGwydMnaES/sYIwpJYjh7v00EoNeU1OCRVygBSYsD9RTR/aIQPYJTqUEPpXDxHU3hIlsUnmXy57eKTkrk4wth41T18zFdwfG3SmZec9AhMCAM2SRh6+ygLsZNlGNPUCacDO5iprjDZSOME= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Tzvm4k/BSraHEZCZpUhFR5pZzu+kQnXnWsycJMSCkk80HkpPumZqn2ugk1HjS/ns7J1gHxRJcimFq+nnDb4y1YIG16Ej+Ky7N6wOeZW5ByO9cf+xFDVO960GVSosVQatTzSGuaWhFfbBJSCbyjhRMsmIPAu+3lWN2BdFXn8Dac8= ; DPeG8XbSx0bu3MYg4Civh5FUX9IrgJqFr2YGL9o.DhHNBqOEqoFFaFJp25_. gSyY347zDBgfMskQ4HQxVmIakeZTspTtaSWsBY0dcj5HfnrnXSKKSuI8Frqt TKbZLtofNXqi1v9h0gBr3T1yptkTaUCB8MzmtadTGQ65NUgBOvHhDlHwCqof P1S0xpw.XkbLiFNF87Zy6zpV0f35iclxk3tBb4p2ffgGQqq7XFJixHznlyGH JaQKPR7QFksyw70ulnbuYuzwCP25lS3qQd0Nbx2SXPFX_AFrSmtrV8KaZUNq a2MNxg5IUZgvykn_uCHecLFWaRCD.3b5FOS7eNQOU79Ik.Gef9bp9.mwRb5x Z19y7CkbyHI7bMIXlPWtmRZ9DL_qh6YKPkEpuFgTJf1Iwwl0u0y06kQMhgh7 cl3_pRjpQYXlCSOC7nijLT7jmEI.WRbzLzVMqo_AvErRiF4jPUzszleMHz4n mTfHiVAcgt5dyKvpL5uGl_.7GhviqydRx7l_sJLakpbjiF5eqtFbwbGMt3A5 NHWVeo8lEqWBSW7SARnIPDQB_eHa4qe2rUgHb73xlxDLHGfZJ83I9ADeVJdB wDmWCixaPt7WcFgxanIcDLVNDT2O8292O3Lck5c8.QB0e.o..5F9qAdzc8j1 Xm18t.DUgsbJq06RejoQ- Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 16:09:52 PDT QmlsbMKgIGFuZCBldmVyeW9uZSB0aGF0IGhhcyBvZmZlcmVkIHRvIGhlbHA6ClRoZcKgIG1hbmlmb2xkIEkgYW0gcmVmZXJyaW5nIHRvIGFzIGEgbG93IHBvcnQgbWFuaWZvbGQgdXNlcywgYXPCoEplZmYgS2VsbHnCoHBvaW50ZWQgb3V0LMKgIHRoZSBINCBTVSB3aXRoIHRoZSB0d28gbW91bnRpbmcgYm9sdHMuIEJpbGwsIHlvdSBjYWxsZWQgaXQgdGhlIGJhcmJhcmljIGxvb2tpbmcsIGNydWRlIG9uZS4gVGhlIEg0IG1vZGVsIHdhcyB1c2VkIHVwIHRvIFRTODk5NkwgVGhlcmUgd2FzIHN1cHBvc2UgdG8gYmUBMAEBAQE- References: Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 16:09:52 -0700 (PDT) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: "BillDentin@aol.com" , "jeffreykelley@charter.net" , "timmurph@fastbytes.com" Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Manifold needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bill and everyone that has offered to help: The manifold I am referring to as a low port manifold uses, as Jeff Kelly pointed out, the H4 SU with the two mounting bolts. Bill, you called it the barbaric looking, crude one. The H4 model was used up to TS8996L There was suppose to be a low port model that used H6's, but it was only used from TS8997 to TS9349 and therefore is a much rarer model. Another identifying point would be that the intake and exhaust ports are in a nearly straight line, where as the high port heads have the intakes in a visibly higher, and the carbs are angled upward where I believe the low port manifold has them horizontal. I must admit, I have only seen a couple of low port head/manifolds. With all the responses I'm hoping one will be scared up. This is one great group and proof the so much can be done in numbers. Long live the FOT! Thanks in advance - Ed ________________________________ From: "BillDentin@aol.com" To: jeffreykelley@charter.net; timmurph@fastbytes.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Manifold needed In a message dated 07/10/2013 2:14:15 PM Central Daylight Time, jeffreykelley@charter.net writes: > If you need a picture I have an early TR2 with a low port head. The > biggest difference is that the H4 SU's use a two (2) bolt flange to > mount not four (4). > > There's a pretty clear picture of all three in the MOSS catalogue. I am looking at the Manifolds Page (page 15)_ in the Spring/Summer 2010 TRIUMPH TR2-4 book, but its the same picture that always appears in their TR2-4 catalogues. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 10 18:00:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF17A40548 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 18:00:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F89E403EF for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 18:00:46 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=vjcL0eIivzsA:10 a=lcFKycKxAAAA:8 a=Y52d2GQW1gexCvfby4EA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=d2ijSB9aOkYA:10 a=FKTI3zRlMpYA:10 a=sXdcfL7UhJEA:10 a=Bc9c7qoAuKlRg6BgnzgyhA==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.92] ([10.127.132.92:49751] helo=cdptpa-web01-z01) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 42/27-05415-DA5FDD15; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 00:00:45 +0000 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 0:00:45 +0000 From: Randall Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [Fot] Manifold needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net ---- EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > There was suppose to be a low port model that > used H6's, but it was only used from TS8997 to TS9349 and therefore is a much > rarer model. The intake manifold listed for 9350E through 13051E also fits the low port head and takes H6 carbs. The change at 9350E was to the "Le Mans" head, but it shared port locations (and gasket) with the earlier heads. The high port heads started at 13052E. Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 10 21:47:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A22C40543 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 21:47:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF20403BC for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 21:47:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yppP1l0031GXsucA3rndBX; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 03:47:37 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yrnc1l00j2xZMJ48UrnczY; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 03:47:37 +0000 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 03:47:36 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Randall s=q20121106; t=1373514457; bh=gXQ7MczQEkhEQTEsCf0A3OelPxC3YQN60rmdqLwqVHQ=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=XeMSCopjrFwyuP3WFUKs+82qlj9aPxdpt7vfUMcFXSUTi4JGRNYduA2gJhrVOrnbf qj7BsXjM3rDsEEZbS7TMYC19gFUu8ggiKrXvECN373DRvbYKK+8sfoVhuJXrvJKcft tGQD7k8aC59Cxvf2bAM3DimQNB/Jck4M0jYY5jkpAk8/taYg8YqjF1u0HDYbRQ9nBB tzCDVf1yEfBj5OcHwOaCJqbz3D6gCPo3QwrrCCFJ5DCkjvomjrcCW4vPNpExRjAA53 FGxrYAh2GdcD1UEctYrYhulZFG3QE3IOzzUL2oXORlCVxVTPAagc8sGIiwmFsG7zrs 7t/3dpuD9Q4kA== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Manifold needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, This low port manifold inquiry has me thinking that I need to take a good look at my TR stock pile. I joke about it by saying that I'm going to build a retaining wall with the blocks I have lying around, and to think it has only taken me 5 years to collect this amount of Triumph poundage. I can't recall the engine number, but I acquired a TR2 engine a while back and I think the engine # is 1400 something. With it I got a low port manifold with the H6 mounts and hadn't thought about it much until this current FoT topic. I'll have to go refresh my memory and log the numbers. My next Triumph acquisition just might be TS2172L TR2 long door. I didn't think long doors went much beyond 1500. 2172 needs a total redux, but everything is there, numbers matching. I feel another race car build coming on. Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randall" Cc: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:00:45 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Manifold needed ---- EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > There was suppose to be a low port model that > used H6's, but it was only used from TS8997 to TS9349 and therefore is a much > rarer model. The intake manifold listed for 9350E through 13051E also fits the low port head and takes H6 carbs. The change at 9350E was to the "Le Mans" head, but it shared port locations (and gasket) with the earlier heads. The high port heads started at 13052E. Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 11 06:56:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B7940546 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 06:56:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9733D40527 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 06:56:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130711125618.EZUJ24708.mta31.charter.net@imp11>; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 08:56:18 -0400 Received: from wt09 ([209.225.8.59]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id z0wJ1l0011GRMdM050wJWa; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 08:56:18 -0400 a=6OfnzAXicMuM/nPloKd9sg==:17 a=GFdYMyUThMAA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=vjcL0eIivzsA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=lcFKycKxAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=MvveSiWXOA17e5KEmvYA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=d2ijSB9aOkYA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=zdRuEmwNkDemIoCQL0WYIA==:117 Received: from [24.176.24.67] by enhanced.charter.net with HTTP; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 08:56:18 -0400 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 08:56:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Kelley To: davehogye User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: Randall , fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Manifold needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Long door TR2's were produced through TS4001. TR2 production ended with TS8636. Few of the changes made by the factory during the long run of side screened cars had much an effect on performance. The high port head was stronger. Increasing engine displacement and replacing the SU H4 carburetors with H6 gave no real improvement. Lemans heads are very rare and not well documented. Most SU H6 setups on TR2's were made by owners when they went to the junk yard and found a later donor car. Many of the earliest TR2's, ones with engine numbers under 850 blew up. Often at the end of the assembly line. The crankshaft had only one oil hole per rod. Somehow my car TS778L survived with it's original engine/crank until I rebuilt it during the restoration of the car. Jeff Kelley On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:47 PM, davehogye wrote: > Hello Friends, This low port manifold inquiry has me thinking that I > need to take a good look at my TR stock pile. I joke about it by > saying that I'm going to build a retaining wall with the blocks I have > lying around, and to think it has only taken me 5 years to collect > this amount of Triumph poundage. I can't recall the engine number, but > I acquired a TR2 engine a while back and I think the engine # is 1400 > something. With it I got a low port manifold with the H6 mounts and > hadn't thought about it much until this current FoT topic. I'll have > to go refresh my memory and log the numbers. My next Triumph > acquisition just might be TS2172L TR2 long door. I didn't think long > doors went much beyond 1500. 2172 needs a total redux, but everything > is there, numbers matching. I feel another race car build coming on. > > Dave H. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Randall" Cc: fot@autox.team.net Sent: > Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:00:45 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Manifold needed > ---- EDWARD BARNARD wrote: >> There was suppose to be a low port model that used H6's, but it was >> only used from TS8997 to TS9349 and therefore is a much rarer model. > > The intake manifold listed for 9350E through 13051E also fits the low > port head and takes H6 carbs. The change at 9350E was to the "Le Mans" > head, but it shared port locations (and gasket) with the earlier > heads. The high port heads started at 13052E. > Randall _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffreykelley@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 11 07:11:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 668D540533 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:11:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82FE24038C for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:07:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130711130738.NLLE10448.mta21.charter.net@imp10>; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 09:07:38 -0400 Received: from wt09 ([209.225.8.59]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id z17e1l00C1GRMdM0517eum; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 09:07:38 -0400 a=6OfnzAXicMuM/nPloKd9sg==:17 a=GFdYMyUThMAA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=vjcL0eIivzsA:10 a=HTms6nFJAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=hvol-pegAAAA:8 a=WKfLcFz3t-M3NaTP9RsA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=trB5EUPcYpQA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=zdRuEmwNkDemIoCQL0WYIA==:117 Received: from [24.176.24.67] by enhanced.charter.net with HTTP; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 09:07:38 -0400 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 09:07:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Kelley To: Jeff Kelley User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: 'FOT' Subject: Re: [Fot] Manifold needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The link below takes you a picture of the low port intake manifold on the VTR website. Not the best angle but an OK picture. http://www.vtr.org/TR2/NewPhotos/062intakemanifold.jpg Jeff Kelley On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Jeff Kelley wrote: > If you need a picture I have an early TR2 with a low port head. The > biggest difference is that the H4 SU's use a two (2) bolt flange to > mount not four (4). > > Jeff Kelley > > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Tim Murphy wrote: > >> I think we have one but I'm also not sure what to look for. Please >> send >> info on manifold to me also and I'll take a look. >> >> Tim >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] >> On >> Behalf Of EDWARD BARNARD >> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 10:59 PM >> To: FOT >> Subject: [Fot] Manifold needed >> >> Listers: Does anyone have an intake manifold for a TR2 with a low >> port head? I am >> restoring an early TR2 and it had a "3" engine. I've located the >> proper >> head, and the carbs should be an easy find...it's the manifold that I >> don't >> have. >> Thx >> -Ed- >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph@fastbytes.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffreykelley@charter.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffreykelley@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 11 08:43:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479A94054B for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 08:43:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f45.google.com (mail-pb0-f45.google.com [209.85.160.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775BB40395 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 08:39:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pb0-f45.google.com with SMTP id mc8so7927502pbc.4 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:39:27 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=G/zX3G9OROb1gAhBA5GrsEUtGUbBIU5UYVPieVHfJ54=; b=ROn4rbMDqAo6Qopo524pFVQqC4Wk2D7ig4e/H03TIbtUxVKGtaw97TmpyQbp2VFq9P NJjJkw3p2y1QiOxHJ3Fh2hIfO0L408YqneKXsGuOFJQlQnx4Ge+wQN1O2qHNHtbUbNfK AJsmlWnJtlU5M3vNoxngH6VvLwRyXKl62Vw1IW4siPmGPk7ZcOVPTYd2eDDDM262yIhm ylzGuoeI+MwrRoSFcVydh0trCsFaFBxjqGjZIOvhReSmyskFfzbe6ja4KZ9MJ8mx73Ve Sax0AOTsx1oG6TMjgJGfdFxabYhmJ27AQ9yRpCE+jG/5xaWEYBbi+J3wUFGsIBb7AP1V yacQ== pn7mr38654428pac.123.1373553567526; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:39:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.24] (ppp183-2.broadband.gorge.net. [209.216.183.2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ep4sm12522209pbd.35.2013.07.11.07.39.25 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:39:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Babcock Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:39:24 -0700 References: To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] A little Peyote Never Hurt Anyone Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Some MeTube videos. I think #2 is most interesting. https://vimeo.com/69551313 Portland Historics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOKB2pseUhU Northwest Historics, race 4--Sunday _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 11 11:45:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 343964054C for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 11:45:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F2F40382 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 11:45:46 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=vjcL0eIivzsA:10 a=PYpIiMqRQpxrm-L95UYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=mk-3FeDGzEQA:10 a=Q-8YkFLRaTcA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55005] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 65/17-05415-84FEED15; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 17:45:45 +0000 From: "Randall" Cc: Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 10:45:48 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac5+Ngnqj1e1310yTnCSfye5e7+3CgAJ6azg Subject: Re: [Fot] Manifold needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > Lemans heads are very rare and not well documented. FWIW, I have a "Le Mans" head & intake manifold. Feel free to ask if you want to know anything about them. I've forgotten the exact engine number, but it was somewhere in the TS11xxxE range (and is also out in the shed). -- Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 11 19:17:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C8340537 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 19:17:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta41.charter.net (mta41.charter.net [216.33.127.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1A840381 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 19:16:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130712011646.WCAC10143.mta41.charter.net@imp10>; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 21:16:46 -0400 Received: from wt06 ([209.225.8.46]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id zDGm1l0020zbdDt05DGmqJ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 21:16:46 -0400 a=+T2vJg4erkLi1i3WKfDycA==:17 a=Jfx0yie3HiUA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=vjcL0eIivzsA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=e7XrJR43Ji5TaZpU5T0A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=b-pW2HVzcFOJuQRn:21 a=0UBwb829uiVwLSpz:21 a=+T2vJg4erkLi1i3WKfDycA==:117 Received: from [71.90.141.109] by enhanced.charter.net with HTTP; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 21:16:46 -0400 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 21:16:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Kelley To: Randall User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Manifold needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That sounds right. The "Le Mans" head was used from around engine number 9350E to 13050E (TR3). They were a low port head with larger diameter (1 1/2" vs 1 13/32'") inlets for H6 SU's and reportedly had better flow, possible giving 100 Hp. The first manifold used for H6 carburetors had the 1 13/32" the same as the TR2's used for H4 SU's. These heads also have raised bosses around the cylinder head bolts. I've never seen one, but I would love to. The parts manuals shows 5 different intake manifolds for side screened cars. Jeff Kelley On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Randall wrote: >> Lemans heads are very rare and not well documented. > > FWIW, I have a "Le Mans" head & intake manifold. Feel free to ask if > you > want to know anything about them. I've forgotten the exact engine > number, > but it was somewhere in the TS11xxxE range (and is also out in the > shed). > > -- Randall _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffreykelley@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 11 22:20:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A9E40358 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 22:20:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f173.google.com (mail-ob0-f173.google.com [209.85.214.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84CB40358 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 22:20:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f173.google.com with SMTP id wc20so10705932obb.4 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 21:20:32 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=X8f15wI2h4fBXDY5Vjfcf4YT6JHcuCFrI9yJbn/m/aU=; b=BJ+ngBxKg6dhai3eToBllb0xQMPzHwA9FqCRGuTknhjxwhUFwFco6Q22FHmtbxPRH/ QfN7Fc5uVOWQz4XUZS/ckMjIUQxcf0YR84+ZO8AMO+o03aApzoJVUW6SlaAOGbKg6F7U Y8WBB/dr/viOltmIsbqbQeqVLzkqLhVYYnjfeppxVn8utTw2Vie1Yq5h8WVLtigMjSR+ VLikwfPQPFSUMe1Vn4D3lKtWX7zKxrzGodD6/tZfE0qbZ/ygDpX2jn7mu7WvLIEndnxb jKfMdkMem8iDqOp0OZJ6y+lVuU5WurzIWlMXnJX1cYcuwxN/o7Fksffme/RDw2XrEIz/ CRqg== sn3mr29089274obb.1.1373602832412; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 21:20:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (24-121-172-242.npg.sta.suddenlink.net. [24.121.172.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g1sm54043048oeq.6.2013.07.11.21.20.30 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 11 Jul 2013 21:20:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 21:20:29 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <31557289.99d9a1.13fd073a050.Webtop.46@charter.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] Manifold needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 7/11/13 6:16 PM, Jeff Kelley wrote: > > The parts manuals shows 5 different intake manifolds for side screened > cars. That sounds about right. I have identified 5 cylinder heads used on the TR2-3A, 2 heads used on TR3B through TR4A, The heads Kas had made up ( I think 13 in total number), and the 2 new aftermarket cylinder heads. TeriAnn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 12 17:16:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E087403D8 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 17:16:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E9C40329 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 17:16:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D74E8A18FB for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 17:16:33 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 17:16:33 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Posting Notes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A member of another list sent out a test message. I informed the fellow he failed the test, and in order to send another test message he had to use the donate link to send me his life savings. Oh well, a guy can dream. But seriously, I did take the time to update some info, here's the message: Well shucks. Just checked Paypal, no one sent me their life savings yet, and it has already been nearly two days - slackers! Guess I won't be packing for that early retirement in Belize just yet. Seriously, the test message did prompt me to update the notes about postings to the list. I am the worst slacker of all when it comes to Team.Net updates. So take a moment if you are having issues with your messages getting sent out to look at http://www.team.net/posting.html If your problem isn't addressed there, let me know and I'll look into it and update the file. Thanks, mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 13 20:20:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B05403E7 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 20:20:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s45.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s45.snt0.hotmail.com [65.54.61.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1502F403D0 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 20:20:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT141-W63 ([65.55.90.73]) by snt0-omc2-s45.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 13 Jul 2013 19:20:37 -0700 From: Tony and Annie Garmey To: "fot@autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 19:20:36 -0700 FILETIME=[BA2EB470:01CE8038] Subject: [Fot] K cup/Transport Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi All, I have space in my Semi for one more car heading to RA in Sept. We will be leaving Portland Int'l. raceway (sovren race) and heading straight to Road America. This is not an event to miss. Elkhart Lake is one , if not THE best track in North America. Added bonus is the down town festival ! Please contact me directly for details. Tony Garmey www.horizonracing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 07:37:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA7C406B1 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 07:37:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d04.mx.aol.com (omr-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.201]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C894640525 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 07:37:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.132]) by omr-d04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 89601700000AC; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 09:37:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 36D39E0000DA; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 09:37:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 08:37:33 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1373809053; bh=Aaw+iNwyfvoG+V4da3/pwu6CmjUOfFU9AS9Y0PSSzfc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=yodiuNpznb26eztjL+nOuaqTDfJUKuGDIbQh6bqLiFZERIt2FkXp5TqdH1P6nhiz/ dNGPTl5VEbEqiqzC5zKlf7Jb+EGfldyIk3CB7mihczQRvs+MDChcAPAQjAy9ud7UZQ DBMosEedmLpqvtDy0U9lQP/5M+JDJgPCyxss8DCg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338451e2a99d190a Cc: Jeff Snook Subject: [Fot] High resolution file on Fot logo needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net My desktop is down and Jeff Snook needs the file for the Snook Dream Cars Trophies for the Kastner Cup. ESP would be good. Greg, Steve, Joe C, Marty, etc, ? Oh, yes! Thanks to Jeff stepping up. We have listed all of the possible models of Triumphs and Jeff will be presenting those trophies to those drivers and cars based on performance in the Kastner Cup. We haven't done this before, although it has been discussed. It's time has come. Great looking trophies, too. Thanks, Joe A. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 07:57:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F97240C01 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 07:57:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-ss-1337.hostmonster.com (outbound-ss-1337.hostmonster.com [67.20.84.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A2D6140525 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 07:55:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 21055 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jul 2013 13:55:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy2.unifiedlayer.com) (66.147.243.71) by soproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 14 Jul 2013 13:55:15 -0000 {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Received: from just64.justhost.com (just64.justhost.com [173.254.28.64]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.83); Sun, 14 Jul 2013 13:55:15 GMT Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=52525 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UyMlf-00086f-Fw; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 07:55:15 -0600 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 08:55:14 -0500 To: Joe Alexander ,fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews References: <2C7E5B2A-D61C-4602-933A-E5F43F429D97@cs.com> {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Cc: Jeff Snook Subject: Re: [Fot] High resolution file on Fot logo needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is this one on fot-racing, but I'm not sure I'd consider it "high resolution": http://www.fot-racing.com/historic/images/AMICI%20TRIUMPH.jpg Tony D At 08:37 AM 7/14/2013, Joe Alexander wrote: >My desktop is down and Jeff Snook needs the file for the Snook Dream Cars >Trophies for the Kastner Cup. > >ESP would be good. > >Greg, Steve, Joe C, Marty, etc, ? > >Oh, yes! Thanks to Jeff stepping up. We have listed all of the possible >models of Triumphs and Jeff will be presenting those trophies to those drivers >and cars based on performance in the Kastner Cup. We haven't done this >before, although it has been discussed. > >It's time has come. Great looking trophies, too. > >Thanks, > >Joe A. >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 08:48:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E43D40687 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 08:48:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d07.mx.aol.com (omr-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF5540323 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 08:48:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.67]) by omr-d07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B40FB700B20E4 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:48:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 666A2E001E8B for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:48:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 09:48:23 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1373813304; bh=AI4pcTWHS9UTs+LZWZ1jJrIfJIGhXuMbZ9ERTXy6Po8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=ifRx97en2QsmHIAwKudUZ0Hiwm1Z1sYFUmpUb3HP8U6i5cYAboSkYDoXgUEzU0DVD Xu147PJBrMjdeEuLawqPzxW3f4Ffo8hBBjqznsZYklkR5IZF7xnMLkbzBFiUaF0Lpv nee2MMXno64DhJI59I8OKbqYD2CoL/OUc3Kv4/vg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294351e2ba3816ba Subject: [Fot] The Hawk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Who is going to be at the Hawk next weekend? I plan to be there for one day only...Friday...my mission will be check on a variety of things for the Kastner Cup and meet with some folks. But it would be good to see some Friendly FOT Faces. PS. Sometime in August, we will be publishing a schedule on the Thursday afternoon and evening activities. We have a lot planned for Thursday and it will set the stage for the weekend. In addition to 60 plus drivers, we have folks driving and flying on a global basis. Joe _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 09:05:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C670040E01 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 09:05:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d09.mx.aol.com (omr-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8346403F0 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 09:05:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.69]) by omr-d09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 337D770000089 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 11:05:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.116] (71-13-26-216.dhcp.dlth.mn.charter.com [71.13.26.216]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id BE75DE0000D8; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 11:05:32 -0400 (EDT) References: From: Jhouathome Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:05:30 -0500 To: Joe Alexander x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1373814333; bh=81cvhtxXAXpYx3Z4vrqvVwitczFN7Zr4r2mO3mvKmCQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=nX1lxQ3VAM7H3e0uVu/1ZUGl8+ObsHos9X3l+9yKHLSvTy9Ai51htyf4/E3eX6PIx xYyP/HZu11LWtPOjbuz6B4h8L1o75lZEYJyMNcCThKXiim0OZS4wus+rLU+MQyjY3A cfD+C6U2EYcXLengaw4u2vD6vd/r6EqlUuKYEDY4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294551e2be3c4293 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] The Hawk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm there Joe. We should agree a time and place to meet and sort our details. John Sent from my iPad On Jul 14, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Who is going to be at the Hawk next weekend? > > I plan to be there for one day only...Friday...my mission will be check on a > variety of things for the Kastner Cup and meet with some folks. > > But it would be good to see some Friendly FOT Faces. > > PS. Sometime in August, we will be publishing a schedule on the Thursday > afternoon and evening activities. > > We have a lot planned for Thursday and it will set the stage for the weekend. > > In addition to 60 plus drivers, we have folks driving and flying on a global > basis. > > Joe > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhouathome@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 09:14:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E5F40E02 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 09:14:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta41.charter.net (mta41.charter.net [216.33.127.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9474052F for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 09:14:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130714151404.LFGJ10143.mta41.charter.net@imp10>; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 11:14:04 -0400 Received: from wt05 ([209.225.8.45]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id 0FE41m00F0yHwtd05FE49r; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 11:14:04 -0400 a=9okyDgZqp55Pkq91s0rumA==:17 a=GcBDC4MYXWAA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=fmFcP7Tc7nMA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mcwglOnBAVd13YB6eoUA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=9okyDgZqp55Pkq91s0rumA==:117 Received: from [71.10.64.126] by enhanced.charter.net with HTTP; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 11:14:04 -0400 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 11:14:04 -0400 (EDT) From: jkhagen@charter.net To: Joe Alexander User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] The Hawk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm racing the TVR--Saving the TR-4 for the Cup. Russ Westfal is coming over -probably only spectating--the paint is not dry on the TR-4 project ---yet---John Hagen On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Who is going to be at the Hawk next weekend? > > I plan to be there for one day only...Friday...my mission will be > check on a > variety of things for the Kastner Cup and meet with some folks. > > But it would be good to see some Friendly FOT Faces. > > PS. Sometime in August, we will be publishing a schedule on the > Thursday > afternoon and evening activities. > > We have a lot planned for Thursday and it will set the stage for the > weekend. > > In addition to 60 plus drivers, we have folks driving and flying on a > global > basis. > > Joe > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 09:18:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A88A406AE for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 09:18:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d03.mx.aol.com (omr-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C25403F0 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 09:18:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.202]) by omr-d03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6BBD370085A08 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 11:18:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mte003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mte003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.236.73]) by mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 42001E000082; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 11:18:48 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 11:18:46 -0400 (EDT) To: n197tr4@cs.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1373815128; bh=UpOc7AGhnOUkEF9oyd3Pgedhs1E5g8RxqBHq9ASaE90=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AEsQTZs/oeXRY3b6D/NAEYNfXlYzbVv0d+vtRyyW7r+Pt9jlA6QAOw2BQxE5roDYn zzJXTfpXuAr36K2FaUKOk+rDHoYoyG14+nrA34lYwjVjRF7W3f0PEryBLQatrsH7u0 BCmoRdCx0H5utCEu4GZUVkeldhgT7g5C2U91yxZA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33ca51e2c1586392 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] The Hawk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 07/14/2013 9:48:31 AM Central Daylight Time, n197tr4@cs.com writes: > Who is going to be at the Hawk next weekend? > BOB WISMER and I are both entered. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 09:44:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E047140E02 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 09:44:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f170.google.com (mail-ie0-f170.google.com [209.85.223.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8496740520 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 09:41:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f170.google.com with SMTP id e11so24680209iej.29 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 08:41:36 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :x-priority:references:in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to :from:date:content-type:mime-version:x-gm-message-state; bh=7QtLjQnj0ZJXvNKPuIv4fYKkB/QRZhSAS411IJFcnH8=; b=bDJ1OJ2YVD+Ita9NjkNdmHEKUVvUnmqgyuHOKiB/5OLeXKqcuKTOBzb0UVxUfEwspY aD3fFXCm4srEyxUwmY5TJz/CNVDYkNSdvvNMp8nHqnTcWzzQfReoGBUMlbfUElwYaN1A ufpqdifIvTWZ1J7m7IsXzIpHWULr2rUqxAm1IzB2J4g7IbawhXyo1zhy9mn1J9x3RmVv xDeXvKTC6Hi8jH7naon5mEkHkqxN/Db2l7413g060bE6lODte8ADIl5JCqYmsoVaus0v suTrF6JiUo297xRgihgBULoO7YiBRRmresGCGJdpDDB3z4rgVqvdbCN0Gl5V7BXZTnCz TU3w== ju14mr15973587icb.108.1373816496447; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 08:41:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.187 (bda-74-82-80-176.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hj6sm12125042igb.1.2013.07.14.08.41.34 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 14 Jul 2013 08:41:35 -0700 (PDT) References: Sensitivity: Normal To: "Joe Alexander" ,fot-bounces@autox.team.net,fot@autox.team.net From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:41:34 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] The Hawk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Suddenly, I'm moving. Every effort is going into that. I have to miss. Damned priorities. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander To: Subject: [Fot] The Hawk Who is going to be at the Hawk next weekend? I plan to be there for one day only...Friday...my mission will be check on a variety of things for the Kastner Cup and meet with some folks. But it would be good to see some Friendly FOT Faces. PS. Sometime in August, we will be publishing a schedule on the Thursday afternoon and evening activities. We have a lot planned for Thursday and it will set the stage for the weekend. In addition to 60 plus drivers, we have folks driving and flying on a global basis. Joe _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 10:04:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63AFE40C02 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:04:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d06.mx.aol.com (omr-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C7940078 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:04:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.194]) by omr-d06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1B42C70000091 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 12:04:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id AFFDDE00008D; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 12:04:04 -0400 (EDT) References: From: Joe Alexander Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 11:04:03 -0500 To: "BillDentin@aol.com" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1373817845; bh=zt9ASUXmhx1j6ZjWhaYZfgnUsMR0hqNeQ19KayvKi6o=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=SHisDg5u+Ms+sBoeCqWgtUJbdj5EG0qrs81wY6WCEYRhUoz01jGvVXHDhte/OLyYX 2b7XLXF6vpvLgd+IBAomCEvKIvORjaPIFIUsGDksWZOh3Y0Evxu/SIGxh3Kqy18BwA Om0JDEQrr1DpYmEut2KkO5UoiW7SZ0aOjjncEJ1Q= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c251e2cbf40d5d Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] The Hawk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Excellent! Can we use your location as KCup Planning Central? The foundation has been dug, the platform is in place, and the key folks will make the KCup dance. Honored Guests. Kas & Peg Chairperson. John H. Paddock Master. Jason O Regalia God. Marty S Media Mogul. Shawn F. We will have volunteers at registration, tech, car shows, and the Kastner Cup itself, but not everything is in place yet. Anyway, it will happen. And I am not forgetting the generous contributions that came in to allow all of this to happen. With careful husbanding of the funds and a little negotiating, we should have some carry over to 2014 for that year's chairman. Joe A Sent from my iPad On Jul 14, 2013, at 10:18 AM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 07/14/2013 9:48:31 AM Central Daylight Time, n197tr4@cs.com writes: > > >> Who is going to be at the Hawk next weekend? > > BOB WISMER and I are both entered. > > Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 10:36:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502FA40E1A for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:36:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d08.mx.aol.com (unknown [205.188.109.207]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED2840687 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:08:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.129]) by omr-d08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 832CD70000096; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 12:08:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id DA49FE0000B4; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 12:08:24 -0400 (EDT) References: <5f7e3792.9aa894.13fddbeeb7d.Webtop.45@charter.net> From: Joe Alexander Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 11:08:22 -0500 To: "jkhagen@charter.net" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1373818105; bh=3N5uea49ivLfXJglN6FV4T3fcvnWAIhaXB2hXrGh2sc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=BABMRHRlqYS0Nvfsf29raxy7gfw49J/YKBCTkVDKVe1aMYiwCyKot08cHZeMJcjfj v2kr/3ZHjGeg2vifmHz51Qav6+L6nCIIMyAWtbua+vLFkHYDv3hP8duQu5r7igFi5A GtBmKYHyjm1gNgh1B7VQPrPNnNLAN/7YRGf9+sLs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338151e2ccf85d5f Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] The Hawk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We only have the TR4 half painted. I told body guy and good friend, that we could not be loading TR4 while the paint was drying. Sent from my iPad On Jul 14, 2013, at 10:14 AM, jkhagen@charter.net wrote: > I'm racing the TVR--Saving the TR-4 for the Cup. Russ Westfal is coming over -probably only spectating--the paint is not dry on the TR-4 project ---yet---John Hagen > > > On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > >> Who is going to be at the Hawk next weekend? >> >> I plan to be there for one day only...Friday...my mission will be check on a >> variety of things for the Kastner Cup and meet with some folks. >> >> But it would be good to see some Friendly FOT Faces. >> >> PS. Sometime in August, we will be publishing a schedule on the Thursday >> afternoon and evening activities. >> >> We have a lot planned for Thursday and it will set the stage for the weekend. >> >> In addition to 60 plus drivers, we have folks driving and flying on a global >> basis. >> >> Joe >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 10:39:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8766F40541 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:39:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1BEF403F0 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:35:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.6]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 76464700D01BE for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 12:34:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 18518E0000A3 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 12:34:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 11:34:42 -0500 Cc: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1373819698; bh=G8Cr25MW6kIqIvByVB9Xp4OAdMn6iAzHIrzVhaTTzFQ=; h=From:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=UWTCN5r9KXRNqSKDV9Gb1wmOo2YebjATdTCHw5S9fL0Y8bX5rEOhznTG1xwVRSKyl yhRHal1lCglBNLFShXws4mfCBlnRpriU69tV5xjfBxcrUJjU3LVjzFsaHh/mJLInkl zkjvxNPB/TavCgXXk1ChVNutEgujTeTJkoJS56VA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290651e2d33233bd Subject: [Fot] Randy Williams Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net List, Using information received from this list, I have sent Randy an email and left a message on his phone. No luck. I am sure it will happen. But in the meantime, does anyone know if Randy is coming? Or if you see him, send me way. We need the Kastner Cup. Joe A. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 11:56:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 102074052F for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 11:56:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail168c2.megamailservers.com (mail168c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF1E540436 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 11:55:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.234.183.22] (138.sub-174-237-0.myvzw.com [174.237.0.138]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail168c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r6EHtfIb001116 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 14 Jul 2013 13:55:44 -0400 References: From: John Hasty Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 13:55:40 -0400 To: Tony and Annie Garmey a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=F848JmY65rpIZl8XKCad6Q==:17 a=AAvYLDLOAAAA:8 a=mK-Ud0K-AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=tv44-BnLGnWsO9EAW6QA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=s2loLT2QvaoA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=F848JmY65rpIZl8XKCad6Q==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] K cup/Transport Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net While I have not cleared with John, we have one spot left in his Toterhome I believe. Leaving from Charlotte Sent from my iPhone On Jul 13, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Tony and Annie Garmey wrote: > Hi All, > I have space in my Semi for one more car heading to RA in Sept. We will be > leaving Portland Int'l. raceway (sovren race) and heading straight to Road > America. > > This is not an event to miss. Elkhart Lake is one , if not THE best track in > North America. Added bonus is the down town festival ! > > Please contact me directly for details. > > Tony Garmey > www.horizonracing.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 12:32:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3842340E02 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 12:32:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d08.mx.aol.com (omr-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.207]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58851403F0 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 12:29:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by omr-d08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 3054E70040A8A for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:29:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mte003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mte003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.236.73]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0577BE000083; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:29:57 -0400 (EDT) References: <88F496A5-F9A8-4FE9-B9F7-D5B447CB0BD9@cs.com> To: n197tr4@cs.com Received: from 70.194.133.39 by webmail-d281.sysops.aol.com (205.188.93.230) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:29:56 -0400 From: billdentin@aol.com Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:29:56 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1373826597; bh=nz6KB3o+znUUSxZWO9FFvh4uX6AGfOjxskqnyRSrdyM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kVeqx4GE4C4lYtOlxQeLVaGR/xhiYwkPw53H0LEULwcOI5grzOswwgvhwfC0jIH8x qUSA+1De7YAhxi8m3YWNQgOw+YQh3eSFQ3zlLZZNH/PWAtU5RK/b+7CVzEE20YNj16 EJwq2W+FLh1lVLpP62ise3Dx0/nNjR8KCb/BKPvs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d51e2ee25030b Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] The Hawk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Excellent! Can we use your location as KCup Planning Central? Our doors are always open. Bill _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 19:30:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A2F40442 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 19:30:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.111]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EFCB400A4 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 19:30:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from new-host-3.home ([108.16.249.182]) by p3plsmtpa06-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id 0RW91m0023wrvZ001RW9vU; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 18:30:10 -0700 From: Scott Janzen Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 21:30:08 -0400 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Pittsburgh Schenley Grand Prix next Weekend Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Any other Triumphs going to be there? There's a Triumph-MG only race on Saturday. Hoping I'm not the only one . . . _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 19:47:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379CB40443 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 19:47:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7784E40334 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 19:47:26 -0600 (MDT) a=TbhLgxSI5lLAU4LXukuagA==:17 a=gB3p3wLlozwA:10 a=HgYbxFlo0ykA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=o24Jlv7wODgA:10 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=RMthrvjO_zcY5V3skVMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=TbhLgxSI5lLAU4LXukuagA==:117 Received: from [76.84.111.161] ([76.84.111.161:1628] helo=guinanhp) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 26/11-16377-DA453E15; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 01:47:25 +0000 From: "Joe Guinan" To: , References: Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 20:48:27 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac6AsGbxf1LWkSthSkW0RVaqdSFzQQATFyDQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] The Hawk (Joe Alexander) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'll be driving up with about 15 members of our local Brit Car club. It's an annual pilgrimage for them, and my first time there. No car to enter... yet. I'll be doing some "scouting" for the North American Spitfire Squadron, and will be happy to be of any assistance I can offer. Joe Guinan Fremont, NE ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 09:48:23 -0500 From: Joe Alexander To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] The Hawk Who is going to be at the Hawk next weekend? I plan to be there for one day only...Friday...my mission will be check on a variety of things for the Kastner Cup and meet with some folks. But it would be good to see some Friendly FOT Faces. PS. Sometime in August, we will be publishing a schedule on the Thursday afternoon and evening activities. We have a lot planned for Thursday and it will set the stage for the weekend. In addition to 60 plus drivers, we have folks driving and flying on a global basis. Joe ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 15 05:42:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E860F40413 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 05:42:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.wave1.net (unknown [74.219.105.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F293403BA for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 05:42:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [74.219.99.119] by mail.wave1.net (ArGoSoft Mail Server .NET v.1.0.8.3) with ESMTP (EHLO mtmPC); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 07:33:47 -0400 From: "Mike Moore" To: "'Scott Janzen'" , "''Friends of Triumph' Triumph'" References: <0501A02E-1811-47B1-96B3-4118AE3EDC1A@REcatalyst.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 07:31:55 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6A+z0RCQOMpIyqSwuAQMraj5T3hgAU2vAw Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Pittsburgh Schenley Grand Prix next Weekend Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I am scheduled to run my TR4, lost my ring & pinion gears at PIRC Saturday but hoped to have fixed in time. John Styduhar is running his TR3 also. Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Scott Janzen Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 9:30 PM To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Pittsburgh Schenley Grand Prix next Weekend Any other Triumphs going to be there? There's a Triumph-MG only race on Saturday. Hoping I'm not the only one . . . _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore@wave1.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 15 08:27:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B2B840511 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 08:27:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail176c2.megamailservers.com (mail176c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5AC040413 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 08:27:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.234.183.22] (138.sub-174-237-0.myvzw.com [174.237.0.138]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail176c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r6FERdU3017776 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:27:43 -0400 References: <0501A02E-1811-47B1-96B3-4118AE3EDC1A@REcatalyst.com> <000f01ce814e$e8f3ff60$badbfe20$@net> From: John Hasty Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:27:37 -0400 To: Mike Moore a=43IazBPnSwMA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=F848JmY65rpIZl8XKCad6Q==:17 a=7N_aJbbPAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=FFOJ77FLNLWaXLCCndQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=5nmbGoeUrHwA:10 a=iOgyu-XeqMgA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=INQB15XkED0A:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=5Hptu6cdnQqR0CF5:21 a=1z0Xl8_m6ABNrNdb:21 a=F848JmY65rpIZl8XKCad6Q==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph , Scott Janzen Subject: Re: [Fot] Pittsburgh Schenley Grand Prix next Weekend Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Had to change my plans & won't be able to make it. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 15, 2013, at 7:31 AM, "Mike Moore" wrote: > I am scheduled to run my TR4, lost my ring & pinion gears at PIRC Saturday > but hoped to have fixed in time. > > John Styduhar is running his TR3 also. > > Thanks > Mike > > Michael T. Moore, CPA > 2007 West 32nd Street > Erie, PA 16508 > > Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 > Fax: 814-864-7383 > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Scott Janzen > Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 9:30 PM > To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph > Subject: [Fot] Pittsburgh Schenley Grand Prix next Weekend > > Any other Triumphs going to be there? There's a Triumph-MG only race on > Saturday. > Hoping I'm not the only one . . . > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore@wave1.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 15 17:28:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9059940554 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:28:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dub0-omc2-s20.dub0.hotmail.com (dub0-omc2-s20.dub0.hotmail.com [157.55.1.159]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A0A40405 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:28:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DUB403-EAS170 ([157.55.1.137]) by dub0-omc2-s20.dub0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:28:08 -0700 From: Rich Rock Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:28:02 -0400 To: "fot@autox.team.net" FILETIME=[F6964C90:01CE81B2] Subject: [Fot] TR-6 Racecar For Sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Posting this for a friend who has finally decided to sell the car. This car was a regular on the PHA hillclimb circuit but hasn't been raced in several years. Gary tells me he has started the engine at least once a year during this dormant period, though. It will need tires and a thorough going over, but not a bad starting point at all. Details and photos at Www.sullivan4sale.shutterfly.com/tr6 Not mentioned in the listing is the long list of spares that go with the car. Please contact the seller with any questions. (He's a good guy). The car is in Berwick, PA. Rich Rock _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 16 07:14:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC6C40E97 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 07:14:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-relay-3.cniteam.com (omr-relay-3.cniteam.com [209.143.0.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E24140E96 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 07:14:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rg7.cniteam.com (rg7.cniteam.com [209.143.0.247]) by omr-relay-3.cniteam.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r6GDESJ9013347 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:14:29 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([216.201.14.237]) by rg7.cniteam.com (MOS 4.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id CAH83822 (AUTH tedtsimx@bright.net) for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:14:28 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:14:38 -0400 From: Ted Schumacher User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: FOT refid=str=0001.0A020207.51E54734.0126, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-09-13 19:33:14, dmn=2013-04-19 10:07:54, mode=single engine Subject: [Fot] Last call for Kasner Cup T.shirts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi group. It's show time. We had a few stragglers ordering late so held the close date until this week-end. Monday, July 22 is when we order the T.shirt "blanks" so we can start printing the graphics. If you want shirt or are entering a car and have not given us name,number & model, please do so. Orders will be set-in-stone as of Monday morning. A couple people have already had "I didn't order remorse" set in and ordered shirts. Contact me directly. marty Sukey's task has been done - VERY WELL -and know it's our turn to finish the project. Thanks for all your support. Ted -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx@bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 16 07:37:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C87B842275 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 07:37:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s18.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s18.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.93]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3764068D for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 07:37:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W110 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s18.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 16 Jul 2013 06:37:08 -0700 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:37:07 -0400 FILETIME=[913E43D0:01CE8229] Subject: [Fot] PVGP @ PIR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Had a great weekend at the PVGP at PIR this past weekend. Actually completed my first race weekend since attempting this racing stuff . Took two and a half engines and three attempts but after 8 sessions I still drove the car back on the trailer at the end of the day sunday and I'm good with that. Found some bugs, fixed some bugs and have plans to address some more prior to the Kastner Cup. Got to meet Mike More, John Styduhar, Ron Scott, Brian S. ?. Talked to Dale Oesterle, George Wright (in his ultra fast rice burner) and paddocked next to Bill Tobin and that traveling hardware store of his. Thanks for the parts Bill! I was 7 seconds faster than my attempt at this track back in 2011 and nobody told me I was number one while they were passing me on track. I'll take that. The new ownership has made a bunch of improvements at the track. Two new shower buildings, lots of fresh blacktop paddock space and they are in the early stages of building the new track extension. Future Kastner Cup potential? I think this is going to be quite the place when they are done. Now if somebody would just build a new hotel down the street it would be perfect. Speaking of hotels, at the Holiday Inn we stayed at they were having a Marine Corp. Harley reunion all weekend. There was roughly 200 Harleys in the parking lot with the owners in their leathers and tattoos. We were a bit concerned at first but they were a fantastic group. See you in September Marty _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 16 11:52:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B164272D for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:52:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5828740E96 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:52:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.28.17]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MQ10071HIYMW410@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:52:00 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "marty sukey" , "FOT" References: Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:51:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] PVGP @ PIR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Marty, you're welcome. Glad you had fun. Always a pleasure seeing you and your family. If Jason can send me the picture on Facebook I'd appreciate it; the one with me working on the car. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "marty sukey" To: "FOT" Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:37 AM Subject: [Fot] PVGP @ PIR > Had a great weekend at the PVGP at PIR this past weekend. Actually > completed > my first race weekend since attempting this racing stuff . Took two and a > half > engines and three attempts but after 8 sessions I still drove the car back > on > the trailer at the end of the day sunday and I'm good with that. Found > some > bugs, fixed some bugs and have plans to address some more prior to the > Kastner > Cup. Got to meet Mike More, John Styduhar, Ron Scott, Brian S. ?. Talked > to > Dale Oesterle, George Wright (in his ultra fast rice burner) and paddocked > next to Bill Tobin and that traveling hardware store of his. Thanks for > the > parts Bill! I was 7 seconds faster than my attempt at this track back in > 2011 > and nobody told me I was number one while they were passing me on track. > I'll > take that. The new ownership has made a bunch of improvements at the > track. > Two new shower buildings, lots of fresh blacktop paddock space and they > are in > the early stages of building the new track extension. Future Kastner Cup > potential? I think this is going to be quite the place when they are done. > Now if somebody would just build a new hotel down the street it would be > perfect. Speaking of hotels, at the Holiday Inn we stayed at they were > having > a Marine Corp. Harley reunion all weekend. There was roughly 200 Harleys > in > the parking lot with the owners in their leathers and tattoos. We were a > bit > concerned at first but they were a fantastic group. > > > > See you in September > > Marty > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 16 13:22:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE754041C for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:22:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dub0-omc4-s12.dub0.hotmail.com (dub0-omc4-s12.dub0.hotmail.com [157.55.2.87]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F417403E8 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:22:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DUB406-EAS180 ([157.55.2.71]) by dub0-omc4-s12.dub0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:22:37 -0700 From: Rich Rock Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 15:22:38 -0400 To: Rich Rock , "fot@autox.team.net" FILETIME=[D4D51E40:01CE8259] Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-6 Racecar For Sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I just learned that the website for this is lacking price and contact info. Gary is asking $11,000 for car, trailer and spares. If you're interested, drop me a note and I'll help you get in touch with him. Rich Rock ________________________________ From: Rich Rock Sent: 7/15/2013 7:28 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] TR-6 Racecar For Sale Posting this for a friend who has finally decided to sell the car. This car was a regular on the PHA hillclimb circuit but hasn't been raced in several years. Gary tells me he has started the engine at least once a year during this dormant period, though. It will need tires and a thorough going over, but not a bad starting point at all. Details and photos at Www.sullivan4sale.shutterfly.com/tr6 Not mentioned in the listing is the long list of spares that go with the car. Please contact the seller with any questions. (He's a good guy). The car is in Berwick, PA. Rich Rock _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rikrock@live.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 17 07:14:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76A54273E for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 07:14:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-relay-3.cniteam.com (omr-relay-3.cniteam.com [209.143.0.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC184032B for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 07:14:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rg7.cniteam.com (rg7.cniteam.com [209.143.0.247]) by omr-relay-3.cniteam.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r6HDEANo009974 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:14:13 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([216.201.14.237]) by rg7.cniteam.com (MOS 4.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id CAI29176 (AUTH tws@bright.net) for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:14:09 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:14:10 -0400 From: Ted Schumacher User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: FOT refid=str=0001.0A020201.51E698A2.010A, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-09-13 19:33:14, dmn=2013-04-19 10:07:54, mode=single engine Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup shirts payment. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello list. One of the FOT just emailed asking how to pay. Marty had included this in one of his emails but here are all the gory details. Ted Shirt price - size Small through XLarge - $15. Size XXL & XXXL - $18 Pick up at track - no shipping charge. Ship from here to you - $6 - 10 depending on quantity of shirts. We will ship out of country but need to figure shipping charges. Payment methods - call with Visa/MasterCard/Discover or send check. Please call first if sending check and having shirt(s) shipped so we can give you shipping cost -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx@bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 17 14:39:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8105E40550 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:39:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f48.google.com (mail-ee0-f48.google.com [74.125.83.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A41140074 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:39:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f48.google.com with SMTP id b47so1281423eek.7 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 13:39:26 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=JuyoNyzJVRuTttXW5uEudn/mdQAo5EKQZdFtpezNHIo=; b=YF1lZpOk0Q1P+mdT3+pGRBD4XDhBb+dQGDdQpAH1uOObe79yqbZcyNJbyTpy4FAoH+ rdVSkwGW5IcNyh/RyuQvL0neAtl8GaRo7b9earH/QRitEETDx5hj4nKAiKSAvNG1ucyo ob7jo3l4SalFJuvkf3faLKX0r89gMVN3p+ZigAkA9ejvPSaqi/nhBRRaCSPy7S/yDXdu FLJ2FDy4hDe/A+cgfTDd47M4qhxIylOfDDVFMiSo04xq64HKxfW/As7VPBWwbAoJmZDi uhO/gfNL6jLJLmJ52DCVAZ+o9aIWZ9yMGOe5Ile5+n21yuNWlTtADefUeqeDyqm7NJJ1 6Qyg== Wed, 17 Jul 2013 13:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([109.46.181.231]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id n45sm13738536eew.1.2013.07.17.13.39.24 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 17 Jul 2013 13:39:25 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'FOT'" References: <51E698A2.109@bright.net> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 22:39:24 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6C75w3vlEIAbUkTt6uxfVy2LdMtAAPgvbQ Content-Language: de Subject: [Fot] Assen Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A little race with a snapped rocker shaft: http://youtu.be/jYazIvhVKmo Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 17 15:28:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C494051D for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:28:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d07.mx.aol.com (omr-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03AB64051D for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:28:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.197]) by omr-d07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7CD47700B3850; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 17:28:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id E85BCE000093; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 17:28:17 -0400 (EDT) References: <51E698A2.109@bright.net> <001001ce832d$baab5280$3001f780$@com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:28:11 -0500 To: MadMarx x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1374096498; bh=I2JJ1kqea6NzSBSPmsYWfEeNG2GwXHBgAjOmNZgiG8g=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=BQ0k0bcq+NzPcMqwYoslKhtt2cqHCAdDtCG8JHF8Ty1gkNqLnIJ2cmD4ICwuj9a1Q VeCcagITubH+tZMHmeXhwdWOm+uvYu+toPU181jrsNwiwl3a4cchnLooWIoaoPcLgK xRYnB5FHQKI9fXovvDdy+jhrfc/bDwwkMMxRSsO0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c551e70c71254d Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Assen Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Whew! Adrenaline producing. Excellent. I was sitting on the edge of my iPad, for the first and last halves. Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2013, at 3:39 PM, "MadMarx" wrote: > A little race with a snapped rocker shaft: > > > http://youtu.be/jYazIvhVKmo > > Cheers > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 17 16:14:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C4C540560 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:14:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f46.google.com (mail-ee0-f46.google.com [74.125.83.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D6E4006D for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:14:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f46.google.com with SMTP id d41so1327883eek.33 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:14:06 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=Q5935QB1flTzDg+2mcyU5NeP5xVpyZHspmR13XfKj0A=; b=sDnt9Z9x5X5EoNiTRU4Kxt+A8K4PMx5i4/ZHxI1WN0JNhjBjBQAg5zVh4ETHtT70Lg 3a68rDGtu6ZtDQ4B6UPBkP72NleJ1zPMLcWEQJW20gsvjjg22udG08dngQTSqKjYY8Yp RdrxveVfJwVARNhimYmXXGBLXv8NeTIQVPKNIRjkEZKPUw/jhFNBU+OAdyx9cdCd+f30 6JFsTHrVaO3JM026+4c7sqnjgUcfhMzIFDGlB8c9cSiOdgO3TWnva4MgUq/GTU+VnKJ5 ghyRRQ3Z1ChE7DNXTThiXguvUQ7qQunkJqwSHgBWEx6dT7ND4Ng+pL1A4b2idGOGi1RC 0yDQ== h45mr8094203eey.146.1374099246020; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:14:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([109.46.181.231]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b3sm14185676eev.10.2013.07.17.15.14.04 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:14:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Joe Alexander'" References: <51E698A2.109@bright.net> <001001ce832d$baab5280$3001f780$@com> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 00:14:02 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6DNI5YmjqB9vVLTw+6Wde6NY2DewABjYzw Content-Language: de Cc: 'FOT' Subject: Re: [Fot] Assen Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Maybe I should mention that the Morgan is a 250HP V8 car and the other car is a TR 250. So my TR4 has a lot of work to keep up with them. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Joe Alexander [mailto:n197tr4@cs.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Juli 2013 23:28 An: MadMarx Cc: FOT Betreff: Re: [Fot] Assen Whew! Adrenaline producing. Excellent. I was sitting on the edge of my iPad, for the first and last halves. Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2013, at 3:39 PM, "MadMarx" wrote: > A little race with a snapped rocker shaft: > > > http://youtu.be/jYazIvhVKmo > > Cheers > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 17 16:18:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0179542747 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:18:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d09.mx.aol.com (omr-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CADEC4006D for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:18:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.5]) by omr-d09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 3F6C570000083; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 18:18:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id ACDD0E000097; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 18:18:39 -0400 (EDT) References: <51E698A2.109@bright.net> <001001ce832d$baab5280$3001f780$@com> <002301ce833a$f42636d0$dc72a470$@com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 17:18:35 -0500 To: MadMarx x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1374099520; bh=a3regbZpYdj1qPIay1Frzj8n6A39hqY/4MR3HyTL+9M=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=InggSwCIZwIE7XnOVpuLM7Neo646sHNr+9wEYPehmrga7WfOefMAiwYpwFAftuIsc M35bYJ5XebZXcb/81cRY3LUFpCy5nDwhtSx0vghbgQme/OjXJtbogCvluuquT1iQgn +yDQnxmXpsQViopZCOYCFy9ejqVHTs8y1Bky9i0g= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290551e7183f6391 Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Assen Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Impressive! Close racing and some well protected lines. I think those other two might have scared each other for awhile. Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2013, at 5:14 PM, "MadMarx" wrote: > Maybe I should mention that the Morgan is a 250HP V8 car and the other car > is a TR 250. > So my TR4 has a lot of work to keep up with them. > > Cheers > Chris > > -----UrsprC Von: Joe Alexander [mailto:n197tr4@cs.com] > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Juli 2013 23:28 > An: MadMarx > Cc: FOT > Betreff: Re: [Fot] Assen > > Whew! Adrenaline producing. > > Excellent. I was sitting on the edge of my iPad, for the first and last > halves. > > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jul 17, 2013, at 3:39 PM, "MadMarx" wrote: > >> A little race with a snapped rocker shaft: >> >> >> http://youtu.be/jYazIvhVKmo >> >> Cheers >> Chris >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 17 16:20:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B36542742 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:20:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f52.google.com (mail-ee0-f52.google.com [74.125.83.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560044032A for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:20:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f52.google.com with SMTP id c50so1341198eek.25 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:20:14 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=h12Ph4G4pVybEV4uopOyj3+CAEl2FrcxYecYzpqkIbA=; b=S4TZCvYIUCd5aRUApua6V6oF9Lr3uP7iHe2mR0bCaGLWHXK3vSyW+iBdiyG9g5I7E3 Gy3CT723SnKIfydWopnD4HLUd5RWf9n8a3rregddjbsbDrcEhyuDWxTr6hwSQVJDIPaB JCH/IWW1cugwH1o660WByxVCPS5jFJgCnail8fMYLky8RTZS1vuZyda1OblVFhHQX9QZ yMBIiflzVseGX4KOZlh3s2/YF/B0n/SB3yEYFmwC1J851NFxWn4ksNDDHOvcTq6R7wyQ IhQeQZd2Wbg2p+Bsv9aPoxbXtQ4zg/G3Ym3czWt4NVtAWlBdCo8cebbs5x1Yfm9S974w PyaA== p43mr8462545eeu.5.1374099614684; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:20:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([109.46.181.231]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id m1sm14140922eex.17.2013.07.17.15.20.13 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:20:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Joe Alexander'" References: <51E698A2.109@bright.net> <001001ce832d$baab5280$3001f780$@com> <002301ce833a$f42636d0$dc72a470$@com> <99E1E849-2FA2-4564-A0F8-B32BE4979CC5@cs.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 00:20:11 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6DO5eYuS0Z+ynwSC6Vpv4xe7+UAQAAC2XA Content-Language: de Cc: 'FOT' Subject: Re: [Fot] Assen Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Inertia is the secret. -----UrsprC wrote: > Maybe I should mention that the Morgan is a 250HP V8 car and the other > car is a TR 250. > So my TR4 has a lot of work to keep up with them. > > Cheers > Chris > > -----UrsprC Von: Joe Alexander [mailto:n197tr4@cs.com] > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Juli 2013 23:28 > An: MadMarx > Cc: FOT > Betreff: Re: [Fot] Assen > > Whew! Adrenaline producing. > > Excellent. I was sitting on the edge of my iPad, for the first and > last halves. > > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jul 17, 2013, at 3:39 PM, "MadMarx" wrote: > >> A little race with a snapped rocker shaft: >> >> >> http://youtu.be/jYazIvhVKmo >> >> Cheers >> Chris >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 17 16:28:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22584055B for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:28:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from ex.dunnwalshholdings.com (ex.dunnwalshholdings.com [173.219.117.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B08640560 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:28:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::6cea:93a1:26a:8c3c]) by TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::6cea:93a1:26a:8c3c%15]) with mapi; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:26:20 -0700 From: Edward Dunn To: MadMarx , 'FOT' Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:27:47 -0700 Thread-Topic: [Fot] Assen Thread-Index: Ac6C75w3vlEIAbUkTt6uxfVy2LdMtAAPgvbQAAO7gIA= References: <51E698A2.109@bright.net> <001001ce832d$baab5280$3001f780$@com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: Re: [Fot] Assen Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Very good video. Sorry about the rocker shaft... Does this TR have a dog box trans? Edward Dunn West Coast Vintage Racing 2240 Encinitas Blvd., Suite D101 Encinitas CA 92024 760-492-3814 www.vintageracing.us [cid:image001.jpg@01CE8302.2ECA34A0] -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of MadMarx Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:39 PM To: 'FOT' Subject: [Fot] Assen A little race with a snapped rocker shaft: http://youtu.be/jYazIvhVKmo Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 17 16:35:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBBFF42747 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:35:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f49.google.com (mail-ee0-f49.google.com [74.125.83.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1518840046 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:34:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f49.google.com with SMTP id b57so1333804eek.22 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:34:56 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=Lqu8MrXLcA/1xNFBrEKFPwKbhA77r4Wcyc8ppNLoabA=; b=o2edQzibgyX1ZI2+DooCWFAgMgFBHEQpEG7BPQ1wCb/muGEFkFVTr1+QTuULtzr5CN DGNQLBdXnPQdvWfcr0dbrEHGaZDxGlpWJC1uMROPT/4FhxP8jkPtNNc/tvLoP+I/Aod5 WZ7Bi0ty2XdXZKwAUq3mX7QsF3KGDU/TGqCBgjGFIuYRUYjpyrUGw/U7t9v84ePSlNu8 FHLuDylSj+TiULLvgnAQTUoYm8p8vxoygHB54EovP33f0XRmInjsVrNQ/3rZAPQ5aE2J l7m5iZLMSGwRd+95tCfoJJD9Fut6UqO5S7c34HC42wjEzBTCofeb/BxnpLbcwBd6+XLN NX9Q== f49mr8253085eep.119.1374100496146; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:34:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([109.46.181.231]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b3sm14296955eev.10.2013.07.17.15.34.49 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:34:55 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Edward Dunn'" References: <51E698A2.109@bright.net> <001001ce832d$baab5280$3001f780$@com> <36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB02068CC1D544@TITAN.dwholdings.local> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 00:34:42 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6C75w3vlEIAbUkTt6uxfVy2LdMtAAPgvbQAAO7gIAAAEuBgA== Content-Language: de Cc: 'FOT' Subject: Re: [Fot] Assen Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes it has a dog box. Bastuck type. Von: Edward Dunn [mailto:edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Juli 2013 00:28 An: MadMarx; 'FOT' Betreff: RE: [Fot] Assen Very good video. Sorry about the rocker shaft Does this TR have a dog box trans? Edward Dunn West Coast Vintage Racing 2240 Encinitas Blvd., Suite D101 Encinitas CA 92024 760-492-3814 www.vintageracing.us westcoastvintageracing -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of MadMarx Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:39 PM To: 'FOT' Subject: [Fot] Assen A little race with a snapped rocker shaft: http://youtu.be/jYazIvhVKmo Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 17 16:47:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8AF42765 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:47:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f44.google.com (mail-ee0-f44.google.com [74.125.83.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7288E4273E for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:46:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f44.google.com with SMTP id c13so1355924eek.31 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:46:05 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=A8ghpSachQnNhEqvU+pdfZgUTXgjplDh/N44jDKh+GM=; b=0cRmhJwL0V/Iwjy/y+l8EgF9lX8IFmK0msfEewtKdDc1mRDvWXwi37ePeSdKMB6n9j fizMLtbktd43eZZ4jd+B0zFWUK0/BSPL9QwLcIS25861eSfWtEph7JgCzJFktB7otITU T3veWVHOTEtt5ljSeKDcxH+q06ZUPtMa/oSbuyhmd/ZKZKrSliNPmNciTxvv8nmiYHjQ QCu9c1lo25rhSFp7EqVmAqytscu3VGkPOVGje3/pyrLk8rDU5LbqQvCncfGpLub+LolA FbFSZShmrlDXqx4EN9khaOLxjPNbTY26scn17n94P5ZSciI/dePiVgoKnWRzdxUc1twd QZrw== s49mr8444953eeb.71.1374101165234; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([109.46.181.231]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bj46sm14316934eeb.13.2013.07.17.15.46.04 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:46:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'FOT'" References: <51E698A2.109@bright.net> <001001ce832d$baab5280$3001f780$@com> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 00:46:02 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6DNI5YmjqB9vVLTw+6Wde6NY2DewACqefQ Content-Language: de Subject: [Fot] Assen Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net All races in a row: Race 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbkP3aRsopg Race 2 with the snapped rocker shaft: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYazIvhVKmo Race 3 with roller rockers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRkiUd9uXNE Sorry that the OD failed in the end. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 17 16:47:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675B042764 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:47:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f47.google.com (mail-oa0-f47.google.com [209.85.219.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A01E42755 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:46:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id m1so3384011oag.34 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:46:18 -0700 (PDT) h=from:content-type:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=z/b9luHAwLdvkcLxuN49s/lWjBlh5Qd4ob+U/2h6pJQ=; b=Pm1W5WqKc+7yZZMgnoFWt7oJgt7yNC9Ke7q2D4HkqPokpOuKWD/XjcV3uka/E6e76K L3sjBCnNwvG/+9Zud4q7xuTrJ/zs0IwTb2kuBGrsQh6XRAQEv97dg+u9jT11eOFViAYr 62BRdNH5CN1+CPimzK//mEUG8NYtZCbSAHUIeZ5LkVJwhK4GsmNuuRyUv6+vM0XT4cTj lO5NR3gKIDl5WiCeujZ5nPSuGSeIFtItu0zUSrasCicRDjhJDMtTtC3KqfVTG2Wm2FR2 P7X3MlI2IgByekNvBjskRPHss0E2RWf0LO3A7KwqW+hdGHNvw7mv2tgyisgp97T1FNgC mN5Q== Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r4sm10812109oem.3.2013.07.17.15.46.16 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:46:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 17:46:13 -0500 To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] SVRA event in Austin -- tickets just went on sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Here is the website link: http://tinyurl.com/meesyq7 Duncan Charlton 1952 Morgan Plus 4 red #6 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 18 12:12:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5654B406A6 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 12:12:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B98440324 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 12:12:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.6]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 17416700000B1; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:12:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 9E012E000125; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:12:29 -0400 (EDT) References: <000001ce83bd$47859f00$d690dd00$@klaenv.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:12:14 -0500 To: Kenneth Knight x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1374171150; bh=mHsclgKS+WR4/VCg3BIZhzZQF9IcyFJAoZAqNU5ypFQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=PGGyjALt8QfjlBRJbJ1i8+DZX/xqgAtuNLbrNkrJ6Yd/qH/DrSOCoDC9Ix/PbDnmX 1lf69o54y7WMlnXI5vhyObYA0ioe4euPtq9eRU3UcLlTGSgGR325cDh+eK5toslt3o WyVv97K/uw4gp0EFLlf7g0MBIdof/lEWsfcyTbFE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290651e8300d64ef Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] ELVF Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If you need to identify what group you are in for registration, proceed to the VSCDA website at VSCDA.org and click on "Groups". Mostly the TRs will be found in: Group 2. TR3, TR4, etc Group 3. Sports Racers Group 8. TR6, GT6, etc. There will be sub categories that you can examine. If you don't find yourself in a particular slot, try to ask VSCDA. If that fails, contact me and I will try to help. Now is a good time to sort it out with registration. Thanks Ken. Joe A Sent from my iPad On Jul 18, 2013, at 8:47 AM, "Kenneth Knight" wrote: > Joe: > > I have been trying to register for Elkhart Lake, do you know what class a 64 TR4 runs in? I have sent emails to event guy, he said he didnbt know and asked tech guy, who has never responded. There classification is not one we use. Any thoughts? > > Thanks, Ken _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 19 12:07:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB698406A7 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:07:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d04.mx.aol.com (omr-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.201]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF08403A8 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:07:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.77]) by omr-d04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4B4F270047BC1 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:07:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dtb004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dtb004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.162.205]) by mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0C41CE000085 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:07:10 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Bruce Lapierre Received: from 173.188.63.122 by webmail-vm018.sysops.aol.com (64.12.254.116) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:07:10 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:07:09 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1374257230; bh=U7ZRJif8DH+it7cExY4/om4BbpIu2ow5CME3nj2Mj8E=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JZnhjI/IKblrsnjzhzgOsde2DUimpfGdZlkDCIIDBpwtHHY56j2o5HK/CxbgSyHX0 oV5rDRB4FDXGsPfMsGDUJ7K19YpIEmx45XqZWItfI27aQ0OYahlneA00OjuUk1OqO4 99HQeFCz1g899QICDmFudnjWOtyHja8T728HthiM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294d51e9804e5981 Subject: [Fot] Patches Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Andy - Got the Amici Triumph patches. They are great. Thanks for making it happen Bruce Lapierre - X#46 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 19 12:17:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63CF24276A for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:17:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m04.mx.aol.com (omr-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D30C40E16 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:16:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.196]) by omr-m04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 213E270000087 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:16:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id D4191E0000BD; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:16:56 -0400 (EDT) References: <8D052C1EBF5B0ED-D4C-109815@webmail-vm018.sysops.aol.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:16:53 -0500 To: Bruce Lapierre x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1374257817; bh=3+jJSGlGefLGTi7UPmNFookbbmSzc+ZJn9vagwkupC0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=B8lYzNjIpMHE+tXFv0mzTyGScSlqsbnseh5p4JvKAaiy8Ve+jtctpMaNvIg6ARFfn RachsYzDcV2VOYlAASTEdFomQxjA2lC5ARD1xPUggHMmk3Ysx77e306YMziDIxA0nv Vj8HNozVlA9yHe7DfTOVuFHKCQd26jse9HthsnzM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c451e982984e55 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Patches Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I need to order some. Thanks for the reminder. See you at RA, Bruce. Sent from my iPad On Jul 19, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Bruce Lapierre wrote: > Andy - Got the Amici Triumph patches. They are great. Thanks for making it > happen > > Bruce Lapierre - X#46 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 19 12:23:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66BF942749 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:23:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from oms-dc03.r1000.mx.aol.com (oms-dc03.r1000.mx.aol.com [205.188.167.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C94403D0 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:23:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.69]) by oms-dc03.r1000.mx.aol.com (AOL Outbound OMS Interface) with ESMTP id 115FD38000042 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:23:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.73.127.46] (unknown [166.137.84.165]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 9519DE0000E0 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:23:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Bock Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:23:08 -0400 To: FoTTriumph x-aol-global-disposition: S s=20121107; t=1374258190; bh=ZR4T5iYJZTGpYFRhJQ3DQtOANWhtGD3v6YzGZQKQ2aw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=kf3jK5gD5FLSOClS3YWhOZ13WYmVuEQFJffy0QlLzk993vhJXwQMUIN/aLzzRWsWY oK5TDx59gpmvtULB9DMUVr13pdv/p1/dI7szRZfTsdD6+aiZSUh1a4xuuK4zf3bEkV yuOduqWWEwLR70e+XWdy46r1NWhCrGUnAePZt4HU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294551e9840e45ba Subject: [Fot] Looking for tire and rim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici I am looking for a used tire and bad rim for a spitfire. I want to use it to check clearance and not use it for the street/track. I am not sure exactly what tire/rim I need so what. I am not going to run in SCCA but might do VSCCA and definitely VRG. Can anyone help? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 19 20:28:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8624F4044C for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 20:28:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm20-vm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm20-vm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.108]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD1940406 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 20:28:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.171] by nm20.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jul 2013 02:28:38 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.242] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jul 2013 02:28:38 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1013.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jul 2013 02:28:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 41709 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jul 2013 02:28:37 -0000 s=s1024; t=1374287317; bh=jWwuG4ZhceH57HrGcaqCesgcrrcEGcBlbJkRFdGQVHQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=f+hUaReq5lPllgERjh79S7Ru9yNX6b+RdZdqxFzeBteWfpNZ81Z841HOqr9nM/R0m1JeaF1VOm3ZqieKpYtrnOqTf1YMz/Na65+wT0YWNXEI0hfp/FuwxL9cWOMgo8no1ldvni3+seJNjEvDY40MTO9KRY0IF5FoNzzEBDeCYxA= s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=d8o4S0/RQFdrPeVGnr1MAnS0cUz9izkIFdvb5iPaZ4kBDJoGLn5DhW+ybiFgN7hbBxGIgYpxiqlz8OfLZ2x8dQwnvuGY1Pj5QG/BTceoAObuHNZQjsz3L5kRgCoYUCiBNP9IDY86I79/P01JVgiiTRajBTzAnXvsmiB9z5iHWfQ=; Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web181403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:28:36 PDT Q2hyaXM6CkkgY2FuIGhlbHAgd2l0aCB0aGUgcmltLiBJIGhvbmVzdGx5IGRvbid0IHRoaW5rIGl0IGlzIG1vbmV0YXJpbHkgcHJ1ZGVudCB0byBzaGlwIHRoZSB0aXJlLiBUcnkgbG9jYWxseSBmb3IgdGhlIHNpemUgKDE4NS82MHgxMz8pIHRoYXQgeW91J2xsIGJlIHVzaW5nLiAKR2l2ZSBtZSBhbiBhZGRyZXNzIGFuZCBJJ2xsIGdldCBhIHdoZWVsIHRvIHlvdS4KLUVkLQogCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogRnJvbTogQ2hyaXN0b3BoZXIgQm9jayA8U2VhQ3ViZUNvQGFvbC5jb20BMAEBAQE- References: <4E4DC6E7-C884-4102-AB6E-0737B6AEAB09@aol.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:28:36 -0700 (PDT) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: Christopher Bock , FoTTriumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Looking for tire and rim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Chris: I can help with the rim. I honestly don't think it is monetarily prudent to ship the tire. Try locally for the size (185/60x13?) that you'll be using. Give me an address and I'll get a wheel to you. -Ed- ________________________________ From: Christopher Bock To: FoTTriumph Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 1:23 PM Subject: [Fot] Looking for tire and rim Amici I am looking for a used tire and bad rim for a spitfire. I want to use it to check clearance and not use it for the street/track. I am not sure exactly what tire/rim I need so what. I am not going to run in SCCA but might do VSCCA and definitely VRG. Can anyone help? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 20 08:14:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DDF740528 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 08:14:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d06.mx.aol.com (omr-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D4984040C for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 08:14:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.5]) by omr-d06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 61F8B700B3702; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 10:14:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id F16C9E000088; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 10:14:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 09:14:22 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1374329670; bh=0Kx4zotXpBnwWvLR5+B2IL5IUbkgIbmTEW5XLGMKu+Q=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=uxxNrY0Ek4zEIjD3sfLdtSvDf7UQjx+Qf5ErVPgBbDwpv9AqmkDHDMcagaoxYoCAn 0J2DFmK5uMxaJ8xDgXOfoG6Q4ZP9g1ZIK5BijT2wSjjuC6QZ9KlmhqLggp1l6JN9HG KwMtA6JQR5EoxAAdskyjGx60ro30XaSt8gcNB3XQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290551ea9b4509a4 Cc: deb korneli Subject: [Fot] Forms for "extra curricular" activities at The Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Read & Fill Out Completely....those forms from VSCDA. A lot of stuff going on at the Kastner Cup. The Kastner Cup is for Triumphs and their drivers, but it's more than that. It's for family and friends and a celebration of our marque. There are a lot of features going on for everyone. The FORMS got necessarily complex to cover all bases. When you review the forms, please fill out completely and return all forms with your payment. If you are a bit confused by something, please ask and I will try to answer. We will muddle through any confusion as best we can. There's a cost effective win/win in here for the FOT and the VSCDA. Hats off to event chair(s) Mike & Deb Korneli. Pinnacle Experience at Road America. Thanks! _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 20 09:00:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B3940536 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 09:00:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail201c2.megamailservers.com (mail201c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3007A403E4 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 08:59:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.244.45.246] (153.sub-174-237-41.myvzw.com [174.237.41.153]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail201c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r6KExmU2004007 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 20 Jul 2013 10:59:53 -0400 References: From: John Hasty Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 10:59:44 -0400 To: Joe Alexander a=4nc-Zjz_GuoA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=g+bX+1KK/XgOT/HQL/guhg==:17 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=3B1S15_wQysa41m7rNYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=g+bX+1KK/XgOT/HQL/guhg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" , deb korneli Subject: Re: [Fot] Forms for "extra curricular" activities at The Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Are you talking about the web site entry forms? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2013, at 10:14 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Read & Fill Out Completely....those forms from VSCDA. > > A lot of stuff going on at the Kastner Cup. > > The Kastner Cup is for Triumphs and their drivers, but it's more than that. > It's for family and friends and a celebration of our marque. > > There are a lot of features going on for everyone. The FORMS got necessarily > complex to cover all bases. > > When you review the forms, please fill out completely and return all forms > with your payment. > > If you are a bit confused by something, please ask and I will try to answer. > > We will muddle through any confusion as best we can. > > There's a cost effective win/win in here for the FOT and the VSCDA. Hats off > to event chair(s) Mike & Deb Korneli. Pinnacle Experience at Road > America. > > Thanks! > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 20 13:05:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D232040452 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 13:05:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy3-pub.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy3-pub.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.30.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E4F44042C for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 13:02:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 23309 invoked by uid 0); 20 Jul 2013 19:02:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy2.unifiedlayer.com) (66.147.243.71) by gproxy3.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 20 Jul 2013 19:02:53 -0000 {sentby:smtp auth 173.0.7.43 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Received: from just64.justhost.com (just64.justhost.com [173.254.28.64]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.84); Sat, 20 Jul 2013 19:02:53 GMT Received: from [173.0.7.43] (port=53462 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V0cQe-0006gk-Qn; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 13:02:53 -0600 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 14:02:55 -0500 To: Joe Alexander ,fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews References: {sentby:smtp auth 173.0.7.43 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Cc: deb korneli Subject: Re: [Fot] Forms for "extra curricular" activities at The Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net One of the choices you have in the race registration is free entry in either the Kimberly Cup or the Sheldon Cup. The cutoff between those is running under or over 3:00 per lap at Road America. That may be challenging to decide if you've never run the track. For reference, I run in the 2:54 to 2:57 range normally. If you normally keep up with me, you want the under 3:00 one - if not, you want the over 3:00 one. I think I've run with a bunch of you so that may be helpful (or maybe not so much). TR-3 / 4 / 250 / 6 / GT-6 / bionic spitfire that run near the front of the Triumph groups would probably be in the under 3:00 category (Henry, Leo, Mordy, Bill Hart, etc.). More mid-pack folks would be in the over 3:00 category. And, if you run unexpectedly fast (or unexpectedly slow), VSCDA is good about letting you change from one of those to the other. Road America is one of my favorite tracks. The sanctioning body is friendly, the area embraces the track, it's got good amenities. Cheers, Tony Drews At 09:14 AM 7/20/2013, Joe Alexander wrote: >Read & Fill Out Completely....those forms from VSCDA. > >A lot of stuff going on at the Kastner Cup. > >The Kastner Cup is for Triumphs and their drivers, but it's more than that. >It's for family and friends and a celebration of our marque. > >There are a lot of features going on for everyone. The FORMS got necessarily >complex to cover all bases. > >When you review the forms, please fill out completely and return all forms >with your payment. > >If you are a bit confused by something, please ask and I will try to answer. > >We will muddle through any confusion as best we can. > >There's a cost effective win/win in here for the FOT and the VSCDA. Hats off >to event chair(s) Mike & Deb Korneli. Pinnacle Experience at Road >America. > >Thanks! _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 20 13:15:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0CF40534 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 13:15:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d01.mx.aol.com (omr-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.252.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F694038C for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 13:15:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.132]) by omr-d01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id AEED9700544E0; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 15:15:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 4DF0BE000082; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 15:15:27 -0400 (EDT) References: From: Joe Alexander Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 14:15:25 -0500 To: Tony Drews x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1374347727; bh=3o6WrO53TmTlI6Umx469adLnlayYS2ZH+u6Fl0n/m80=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=jHg0drKoF3yJwtspgOQ743IO6jTJkPqg/wyP47EHupcmEyIE/GWz+vxvouI04Plbs AFj7wcBtsgU+JlrG4hhXdLmVs8toIjzEPamxsxAvJWKcCtCQg+z6237p4DdTCeVyJY /fJa5qWGmIJ76A83T3GaKhOS6eQYVycjB0XnIFQQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338451eae1cf1f8a Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" , deb korneli Subject: Re: [Fot] Forms for "extra curricular" activities at The Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It's great, the way that FOT jumps in, and helps out on all fronts. BTW, the schedule is still being worked until it satisfies the needs in the best possible way. Bear with us on this stuff. The end results will be the best that can be had. Sent from my iPad On Jul 20, 2013, at 2:02 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > One of the choices you have in the race registration is free entry in either the Kimberly Cup or the Sheldon Cup. The cutoff between those is running under or over 3:00 per lap at Road America. That may be challenging to decide if you've never run the track. > > For reference, I run in the 2:54 to 2:57 range normally. If you normally keep up with me, you want the under 3:00 one - if not, you want the over 3:00 one. I think I've run with a bunch of you so that may be helpful (or maybe not so much). TR-3 / 4 / 250 / 6 / GT-6 / bionic spitfire that run near the front of the Triumph groups would probably be in the under 3:00 category (Henry, Leo, Mordy, Bill Hart, etc.). More mid-pack folks would be in the over 3:00 category. And, if you run unexpectedly fast (or unexpectedly slow), VSCDA is good about letting you change from one of those to the other. > > Road America is one of my favorite tracks. The sanctioning body is friendly, the area embraces the track, it's got good amenities. > > Cheers, Tony Drews > > At 09:14 AM 7/20/2013, Joe Alexander wrote: >> Read & Fill Out Completely....those forms from VSCDA. >> >> A lot of stuff going on at the Kastner Cup. >> >> The Kastner Cup is for Triumphs and their drivers, but it's more than that. >> It's for family and friends and a celebration of our marque. >> >> There are a lot of features going on for everyone. The FORMS got necessarily >> complex to cover all bases. >> >> When you review the forms, please fill out completely and return all forms >> with your payment. >> >> If you are a bit confused by something, please ask and I will try to answer. >> >> We will muddle through any confusion as best we can. >> >> There's a cost effective win/win in here for the FOT and the VSCDA. Hats off >> to event chair(s) Mike & Deb Korneli. Pinnacle Experience at Road >> America. >> >> Thanks! _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 20 20:41:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FBE14276C for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 20:41:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m03.mx.aol.com (omr-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2C4C42712 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 20:40:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.1]) by omr-m03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 81FD9700000A7 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 22:40:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.252.233.113] (unknown [166.137.80.144]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id EA057E00009C for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 22:40:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Bock Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 22:40:45 -0400 To: FoTTriumph x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1374374449; bh=9YKPuJQN6YEebdKwOK9uIP+YRDhqgn7kZIr6adffBX0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=Lua0WE/RzCCt6HDEIk/ndyorpuk8C4K6ajktbsUpN1rwZUinThspFdhqGnt/GiQxk y6DWKIRZQv425VDMScqjzWXVe4gBjkqZENNNSlk3cYBSMuUU4FMWxGYqsN1z2cXA48 n4J0q1aVXRviS7YxPbUM5/BFo8XZg3dGs0hPW1oc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290151eb4a30586f Subject: [Fot] Thrust bearings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici I have been thinking, which is dangerous!! I have a 1500 spit engine that will eventually be rebuilt to a little hotter than normal. One of the main things to watch out for is he thrust bearings. Which lead me to this.... My thoughts were to explore ball bearings in the engine. I have done some Internet exploration and found some info. So I am asking the engine builders here for their opinions. Thrust bearings. Can ball thrust bearings be used? Has anyone ever tried to use them? I haven't found anything online about this. Good/bad idea? Cam bearings. Has anyone tried to use roller bearings in the block? I have found some info about this but nothing really saying good or bad. I think the 1500 block doesn't use bearings, but they can be used with a different (1247?) cam. Crank bearings. Split Roller bearings? I found one article about a guy who was going to use a split roller bearing on the crank. There wasn't anything if it happened or not. Connecting rod bearings. Same as above, same article, same results. Roller rocker bearings. Here is a question. Are the bearings on the rocker shaft or the rocker to valve area or both? I heard roller bearings are not worth the cost to use. I know the oil pressure will be less because you aren't looking for high volume just splash oiling or mist oiling. Wouldn't a lower oil pressure be better? Less force in trying to pump lots of oil around. I have three engines and I am willing to guinea pig on one engine. I haven't really looked into what sizes or costs would be needed. I am just throwing it out there for opinions _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 21 06:58:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947C542787 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2013 06:58:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD6340557 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2013 06:56:29 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=p2WYa6JjtsjxwT4WY6fa8w==:17 a=pJD3guXGjx0A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=hCzEfY2kDE8A:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=zGF0BNuByeKVu4zTtlQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=p2WYa6JjtsjxwT4WY6fa8w==:117 Received: from [166.147.65.113] ([166.147.65.113:57911] helo=[10.172.134.92]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id EE/C8-14128-C7ADBE15; Sun, 21 Jul 2013 12:56:29 +0000 References: <668D4E2A-B4AD-4FEA-B2FB-48C96DAA12D0@aol.com> From: Bob Kramer Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 07:56:24 -0500 To: Christopher Bock Cc: FoTTriumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Thrust bearings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net How do you control oil pressure to all those bearings? I suspect you would need to orifice all the oil passageways or set up some remote hose bank to get oil at the right pressure to the rockers for example. Are there roller bearings you could use that don't just dump oil out everywhere? Bob Kramer Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2013, at 9:40 PM, Christopher Bock wrote: > Amici > > I have been thinking, which is dangerous!! > > I have a 1500 spit engine that will eventually be rebuilt to a little hotter > than normal. One of the main things to watch out for is he thrust bearings. > Which lead me to this.... > > My thoughts were to explore ball bearings in the engine. I have done some > Internet exploration and found some info. So I am asking the engine builders > here for their opinions. > > Thrust bearings. Can ball thrust bearings be used? Has anyone ever tried to > use them? I haven't found anything online about this. Good/bad idea? > > Cam bearings. Has anyone tried to use roller bearings in the block? I have > found some info about this but nothing really saying good or bad. I think the > 1500 block doesn't use bearings, but they can be used with a different (1247?) > cam. > > Crank bearings. Split Roller bearings? I found one article about a guy who > was going to use a split roller bearing on the crank. There wasn't anything > if it happened or not. > > Connecting rod bearings. Same as above, same article, same results. > > Roller rocker bearings. Here is a question. Are the bearings on the rocker > shaft or the rocker to valve area or both? I heard roller bearings are not > worth the cost to use. > > I know the oil pressure will be less because you aren't looking for high > volume just splash oiling or mist oiling. Wouldn't a lower oil pressure be > better? Less force in trying to pump lots of oil around. > > I have three engines and I am willing to guinea pig on one engine. I haven't > really looked into what sizes or costs would be needed. I am just throwing it > out there for opinions > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 21 08:29:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B1642780 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2013 08:29:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail202c2.megamailservers.com (mail202c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AACE40C01 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2013 08:29:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.254.36.66] (240.sub-174-237-9.myvzw.com [174.237.9.240]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail202c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r6LESx85006458 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 21 Jul 2013 10:29:03 -0400 References: <668D4E2A-B4AD-4FEA-B2FB-48C96DAA12D0@aol.com> <62C91D76-28E7-456F-99EA-BFE44A05F84D@austin.rr.com> From: John Hasty Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 10:28:54 -0400 To: Bob Kramer a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=7bxZQXzQhnseiHR9DqR8wQ==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=DMTMaJlBlAn6uA5dECwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=7bxZQXzQhnseiHR9DqR8wQ==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: FoTTriumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Thrust bearings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net All of our 2stroke race motors used roller rod & wrist pin bearings with ball bearings on the crank. They were only lubed by the gas/oil mix which was fed directly into the case through the carbs. So, in theory the low end should be doable. What do the F1 cars use. But they don't use cams etc? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 21, 2013, at 8:56 AM, Bob Kramer wrote: > How do you control oil pressure to all those bearings? I suspect you would > need to orifice all the oil passageways or set up some remote hose bank to get > oil at the right pressure to the rockers for example. Are there roller > bearings you could use that don't just dump oil out everywhere? > > Bob Kramer > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 20, 2013, at 9:40 PM, Christopher Bock wrote: > >> Amici >> >> I have been thinking, which is dangerous!! >> >> I have a 1500 spit engine that will eventually be rebuilt to a little > hotter >> than normal. One of the main things to watch out for is he thrust bearings. >> Which lead me to this.... >> >> My thoughts were to explore ball bearings in the engine. I have done some >> Internet exploration and found some info. So I am asking the engine > builders >> here for their opinions. >> >> Thrust bearings. Can ball thrust bearings be used? Has anyone ever tried > to >> use them? I haven't found anything online about this. Good/bad idea? >> >> Cam bearings. Has anyone tried to use roller bearings in the block? I have >> found some info about this but nothing really saying good or bad. I think > the >> 1500 block doesn't use bearings, but they can be used with a different > (1247?) >> cam. >> >> Crank bearings. Split Roller bearings? I found one article about a guy who >> was going to use a split roller bearing on the crank. There wasn't > anything >> if it happened or not. >> >> Connecting rod bearings. Same as above, same article, same results. >> >> Roller rocker bearings. Here is a question. Are the bearings on the rocker >> shaft or the rocker to valve area or both? I heard roller bearings are not >> worth the cost to use. >> >> I know the oil pressure will be less because you aren't looking for high >> volume just splash oiling or mist oiling. Wouldn't a lower oil pressure be >> better? Less force in trying to pump lots of oil around. >> >> I have three engines and I am willing to guinea pig on one engine. I > haven't >> really looked into what sizes or costs would be needed. I am just throwing > it >> out there for opinions >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 21 11:23:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB0040EA9 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2013 11:23:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10BA54068D for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2013 11:22:54 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=X+j4I3R4dkDqNGgL/cqXYQ==:17 a=QdHy93mVrBUA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=n8i27M1mAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=-WTlWVLST2UA:10 a=jr91jGDBfTO_0AKRa28A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=4HlL6AGCYuQA:10 a=22V3M6yFS2kA:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=S8mtlWdDwUw5m1Sw:21 a=MdwiqT8Zd7ZqdoWACrQA:9 a=IKIoO-ieCDEA:10 a=X+j4I3R4dkDqNGgL/cqXYQ==:117 Received: from [99.10.98.97] ([99.10.98.97:34428] helo=localhost) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id B7/1C-15971-DE81CE15; Sun, 21 Jul 2013 17:22:53 +0000 Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 12:22:12 -0400 From: Bob Kramer To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] 2014 Kastner Cup Announcement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The Kastner Cup will turn 12 years old in 2014 and we are pleased to announce that the 12th Annual Kastner Cup race will be held at Eagles Canyon Raceway. ECR is about an hour north of the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex, tucked away in the rolling hills west of Denton Texas. Mark your 2014 calendars for the weekend of May 16th through 18th for the 2014 Kastner Cup. After a string of big time vintage racing events hosting the K-Cup it is time again for the Friends of Triumph to come together at a smaller venue to strut our stuff. Eagles Canyon is a perfect location for us to do just that and the Annual CVAR Marvelous May race weekend provides some great reasons for you to tow your Triumph to north central Texas for the Cup. ECR is aB newer track, 2.5 miles long, 11 turns with three straigths under 2,000 feet long,B lots of elevation changes and challenging racing lines. You will want to take advantage of the impressive amount of track time available on the Friday Test and Tune to learn your lines for the three per day track sessions in the CVAR schedule. Passing is fun at ECR but your competition may be better than you at the next turn and pass you back. In addition to the three sessions per day the CVAR event includes a well attended British Small Bore Race on Saturday for which most of us will qualify. We will hold the K Cup on Sunday right after lunch. With all the track time accumulated many will choose to skip that final afternoon group race to get a jump on the tow. Kas and Peggy will be in attendance and will announce the winner of the K-Cup in the Winner's Circle after the race. CVAR runs three race groups that can accomodate most of our cars. We can get all vintage cars up to the TR6 with no concerns. Modern spec cars on a case by case basis. One of the most enjoyable part if any K-Cup events is that you get to be on the track with lots and lots of Triumphs. We are proud to start the party with a TX FOT field that includes 3 Spitfires, a GT6, a TR3, 3 TR4's, a TR4A, 2 Triumph powered Morgans and we will have another two Spitfire's that will be on track for 2014. CVAR has agreed to grid the K-Cup race by your best laptime up to that point on Sunday giving you more time to learn the track and improve the racing. Being just an hour from DFW, Eagles Canyon is accessable from all directions. We hope that you can join us. More information to follow. Contact: Bob Kramer rkramer3@austin.rr.comB 512-815-9925B Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/vnd] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 21 12:58:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C0342708 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2013 12:58:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s31.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s31.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.106]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B31A40545 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2013 12:58:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU180-W41 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s31.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 21 Jul 2013 11:58:14 -0700 From: Chuck WATSON To: FOT List Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 14:58:13 -0400 References: FILETIME=[40AA3E00:01CE8644] Subject: Re: [Fot] 2014 Kastner Cup Announcement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Awesome. Dallas is my home town and my GT6 will be ready by then for sure. Thanks, Chuck Watson Mellow Mushroom Pizza Bakers Columbia, Greenville, Spartanburg & Lexington, SC > Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 12:22:12 -0400 > From: rkramer3@austin.rr.com > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] 2014 Kastner Cup Announcement > > The Kastner Cup will turn 12 years old in 2014 and we are pleased to announce that the 12th Annual Kastner Cup race will be held at Eagles Canyon Raceway. ECR is about an hour north of the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex, tucked away in the rolling hills west of Denton Texas. Mark your 2014 calendars for the weekend of May 16th through 18th for the 2014 Kastner Cup. > > After a string of big time vintage racing events hosting the K-Cup it is time again for the Friends of Triumph to come together at a smaller venue to strut our stuff. Eagles Canyon is a perfect location for us to do just that and the Annual CVAR Marvelous May race weekend provides some great reasons for you to tow your Triumph to north central Texas for the Cup. > > ECR is aB newer track, 2.5 miles long, 11 turns with three straigths under 2,000 feet long,B lots of elevation changes and challenging racing lines. You will want to take advantage of the impressive amount of track time available on the Friday Test and Tune to learn your lines for the three per day track sessions in the CVAR schedule. Passing is fun at ECR but your competition may be better than you at the next turn and pass you back. > > In addition to the three sessions per day the CVAR event includes a well attended British Small Bore Race on Saturday for which most of us will qualify. > > We will hold the K Cup on Sunday right after lunch. With all the track time accumulated many will choose to skip that final afternoon group race to get a jump on the tow. Kas and Peggy will be in attendance and will announce the winner of the K-Cup in the Winner's Circle after the race. > > CVAR runs three race groups that can accomodate most of our cars. We can get all vintage cars up to the TR6 with no concerns. Modern spec cars on a case by case basis. > > One of the most enjoyable part if any K-Cup events is that you get to be on the track with lots and lots of Triumphs. We are proud to start the party with a TX FOT field that includes 3 Spitfires, a GT6, a TR3, 3 TR4's, a TR4A, 2 Triumph powered Morgans and we will have another two Spitfire's that will be on track for 2014. > > CVAR has agreed to grid the K-Cup race by your best laptime up to that point on Sunday giving you more time to learn the track and improve the racing. > > Being just an hour from DFW, Eagles Canyon is accessable from all directions. We hope that you can join us. More information to follow. > > Contact: Bob Kramer rkramer3@austin.rr.comB 512-815-9925B > > > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/vnd] > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/clw2000@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 22 08:13:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86EC240547 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 08:13:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s38.blu0.hotmail.com (unknown [65.55.111.113]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9754340514 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 07:36:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W110 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s38.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 22 Jul 2013 06:36:17 -0700 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 09:36:16 -0400 FILETIME=[715698E0:01CE86E0] Subject: [Fot] TR4 Rad question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I am buttoning up the TR4 project that I am helping a buddy with. He sent me an aluminum radiator to install. The problem that I ran into last night was the line coming off the thermostat housing sits about 1 inch higher than the line entering the top of the radiator. The short hose between them will have an "S" shape bend to make it work and that just does not look like a good long term solution. I thought about machining up some spacer to raise the radiator but then the clearance for the lower radiator hose would be an issue. I don't see a way to lower the engine. I know there are a bunch of TR4 folks out there. Anybody else have this issue and resolved it? Thanks, Marty _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 22 11:06:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB604043D for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 11:06:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m07.mx.aol.com (omr-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40005403A0 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 11:06:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.67]) by omr-m07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7E0F47003545E for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 13:05:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 0256DE000126 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 13:05:59 -0400 (EDT) References: <3FDE68CBD8BD544689990CF4C6DF972A23613D36@exchgsvr2.osthoff.local> From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 12:06:00 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1374512759; bh=hRR1Ddi6D9HNaVvBKaNQkJ8pcXukWmnKRAHp81406yY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=EB6lhqFMatTlvFrwvGcZ7wa5IIruithW+oCjadWpdd6euiqBH3hTN4E8DL4auX0Gk FK5FqKzfykFRvsfCgIsGvoVCGnDficA9BOsZ+cpCkbUoKPJzsrBZs4CPyDkTTlvlr0 Z+sA/DkNHW6XVrVnt0GO3EmWxeFfuKLQvr/7E2qk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294351ed6676000c Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Greetings from the Osthoff Resort Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT, I am being asked asked to sign an addendum on the contract for Osthoff. They have about a seven page contract with all kinds of language. Up until now, I have resisted doing this, but there is a suggestion that the generous discount could be an issue. I will likely do this, but I am sending this message for two reasons: One is that this is another indicator of the enormous success we are seeing with this Kastner Cup. Another, is that I hope every one stays on top of their reservations so no one has any liability due to cancellations. Thanks for all of the interest and cooperation.....study your entries and forms and get them in early. Regards, Joe Alexander Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Angela Koran > Date: July 22, 2013, 11:46:41 AM CDT > To: 'Joe Alexander' > Subject: Greetings from the Osthoff Resort > > Good Morning Joe, > > I hope you are having an enjoyable summer! Joe, I just wanted to update you on the Friends of Triumph room block. The contracted block has already been exceeded by approximately 40 room nights. Would you be willing to sign an addendum based on the current room pick up? This will ensure everyone in the group receives the discount group rate and it helps for group tracking purposes (which greatly helps me). I could easily prepare this and get it to you via email. I would greatly appreciate your help Joe. > > Thank you for your time and consideration. Have a wonderful day! > > Angela Koran > Sales Manager > 101 Osthoff Avenue > Elkhart Lake, WI 53020 > 920.876.5815 direct > 920.876.2249 fax > akoran@osthoff.com > www.osthoffmeetings.com > Voted b2012 Best Wisconsin Lakeshore Resortb by Wisconsin Meetings Magazine. > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 22 12:54:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999B9403FB for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 12:54:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail202c2.megamailservers.com (mail202c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB585403EF for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 12:54:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail202c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r6MIsOFt010239 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 14:54:29 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 14:54:23 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6HDOFQ55DGVOa6SteapGk8Vcc1RQ== a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=qudHXld6sh6PgLi5wwcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: [Fot] Elkhart Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe: I note the re-enactment starts at 1:30 on Sat. and goes to 5:00. Does this mean there will be no on track practice or racing Sat Afternoon???? It would help if a schedule of events was available. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 22 12:56:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7EF84054B for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 12:56:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67734006C for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 12:56:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.36]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3SzD1m0020mlR8U01WwoEn; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 18:56:48 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.8] ([67.170.200.248]) by omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3Wwn1m00q5N3clv8XWwoas; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 18:56:48 +0000 From: Dave Hogye Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 11:56:47 -0700 To: Friends of Triumph s=q20121106; t=1374519408; bh=nAIa12Gr6Oi+W6omEpRmqs2dTd4+gxCLkOVsGEFrMd4=; h=Received:Received:From:Content-Type:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To: Mime-Version; b=ZrwJvSKXoD3x+o2EdKuFoUmT9efFadf9jGZeCcvJQ2f/vABa86iGR1NpUEYLuHf7/ Gq1QYtz1+TQSqo+kleswXJClaVLr2/tlv4tixTUEYXUHmTPme+QZPcwU5bkOrU54ws nK0xUBexb2u1S9CQbvrHCaK4f9xIV/UOD2+twSVEmUXIjgeKEezCQEQzghmYmQVbsg lVdARO9MANii7TS2S47NgBVaQkw+jM9GcfIgY5ZNSGlA4cSR83DZOyXkuyqSmCzJK3 SjeZZnkqA4h3EsF8rZVTTjocKl3Hpjm7SfG9KkserQv7yPAcSfF8kcWWU7GkBfC9HJ ve11KSTmAldrw== Subject: [Fot] First drive #63 TR3 at Thunderhill Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, I'm still grinning after a very successful, shall I say perfect, first track outing in my newly built TR3. I completed five, 25 minute sessions, three at temps over 100 degrees at Thunderhill Raceway Park yesterday. What a blast! Great track! I adjusted tire pressures after the first session and put the car in the air to give it a thorough check, let the tires rest after a first heat cycle and had to adjust the rear brakes. That's it. Drove the heck out of it the rest of the day. David Ray of Hooked on Driving did some lead follow with me in his Corvette for the first few laps of the first session to help me get familiar with the track. He later said he was surprised when I kept up with him the hole time. I had him evaluate my driving in order to drive my first race with CSRG. As always, thanks to all of you folks for the fantastic support and encouragement. I love my Triumph! I'll be registering for my first race at Sears in October soon. Still grinning, Dave http://gotbluemilk.com/web130721/63/index.html _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 22 13:06:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128C040527 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 13:06:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E3440326 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 13:06:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3QVS1m0040cQ2SL01X6Byj; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 19:06:11 +0000 Received: from Bud ([67.164.120.205]) by omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3X6A1m0094RzRTX8WX6AdM; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 19:06:10 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "'Dave Hogye'" , "'Friends of Triumph'" References: Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 12:06:08 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6HDUTdMOinhdXnTi2gWFdZzObttQAATMIQ Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1374519971; bh=+FpeT2/MpDjio6+V6MakjX+ygXF4O8TyptLz4ieuEQs=; h=Received:Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FoNIYwlp7YhhZW/ON2Nq+ycP6uvJa7S2H92tuLobgZga2V7shXoXmYemXuM1iiFjs qe3z6zC/hVwLPJc2wDVtP0ppjUeU1B+XALcYkzqWeHPunfysCs3sdcMwPSi/2PY02y oEqStVFnKpwKbD7u+6KSz11eYEH4QT8tlPom0J5qsOfJxQ8yJCKYAN/33bKG4zme8Z vTo/1ZqtLZM8N1nlSuQ3ba61sjY6/JlPQQi46aojTYDilSqKSjuznLn8xjgAMYCq+y eKi6MVpX4w5yLYmJqpY6tsO2kEcHQdrOc3Y7HAX2Bkd3ccFw4NJkSmLeH3sLtS1cK4 ZweU8Ah8grPhw== Subject: Re: [Fot] First drive #63 TR3 at Thunderhill Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Good job Dave..and Congratulations!.. RB -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Hogye Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 11:57 AM To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] First drive #63 TR3 at Thunderhill Hello Friends, I'm still grinning after a very successful, shall I say perfect, first track outing in my newly built TR3. I completed five, 25 minute sessions, three at temps over 100 degrees at Thunderhill Raceway Park yesterday. What a blast! Great track! I adjusted tire pressures after the first session and put the car in the air to give it a thorough check, let the tires rest after a first heat cycle and had to adjust the rear brakes. That's it. Drove the heck out of it the rest of the day. David Ray of Hooked on Driving did some lead follow with me in his Corvette for the first few laps of the first session to help me get familiar with the track. He later said he was surprised when I kept up with him the hole time. I had him evaluate my driving in order to drive my first race with CSRG. As always, thanks to all of you folks for the fantastic support and encouragement. I love my Triumph! I'll be registering for my first race at Sears in October soon. Still grinning, Dave http://gotbluemilk.com/web130721/63/index.html _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 22 13:10:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746B440527 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 13:10:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64AC84009A for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 13:10:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3UP61m00816AWCUA9X9s83; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 19:09:52 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3X9r1m00a2yr1eL8SX9rAN; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 19:09:51 +0000 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 19:09:51 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: budscars@comcast.net s=q20121106; t=1374520192; bh=QOKNxvpVEJaG0BCMgzzWaYXOhGZ3csuQ3DLqa385dTU=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=MjvoKac2Fcr/sV7X8liJdRWkK8wy2D2jXJVVesjvb5SHlutf9Hndi1xO3hf0pn2hm D6sVVfLyqFuqcaBt+uIvSZWrbh4leBiZbBWhUXNdW5fxoRc2OY9GRlOv4r0MceI6x4 AfnZPyFQUaC1kkZIwletJIfPKxl9dsCxQMYsI7QdPL5oop9qM0GRL0qs+RiKWGJeZl eVWlxo+pqJZ5/feq7bqDQHA6aL2K/NX2gbfQR9xkzLi8ucXJ50EcVqALgwH8Y7pShb h+Au7NVcvpDCPkKr8NaF5qlcYuTxj+hR1ecuwZNHf/3+dE2CZgzrE8qNwjBGRnWYBx InKbTg1urRJ1w== Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] First drive #63 TR3 at Thunderhill Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Bud, Oh, I forgot to mention. I attached a link to some photos taken by a pro photographer. They say it all. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "RACER BUD" To: "Dave Hogye" , "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:06:08 PM Subject: RE: [Fot] First drive #63 TR3 at Thunderhill Good job Dave..and Congratulations!.. RB -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Hogye Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 11:57 AM To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] First drive #63 TR3 at Thunderhill Hello Friends, I'm still grinning after a very successful, shall I say perfect, first track outing in my newly built TR3. I completed five, 25 minute sessions, three at temps over 100 degrees at Thunderhill Raceway Park yesterday. What a blast! Great track! I adjusted tire pressures after the first session and put the car in the air to give it a thorough check, let the tires rest after a first heat cycle and had to adjust the rear brakes. That's it. Drove the heck out of it the rest of the day. David Ray of Hooked on Driving did some lead follow with me in his Corvette for the first few laps of the first session to help me get familiar with the track. He later said he was surprised when I kept up with him the hole time. I had him evaluate my driving in order to drive my first race with CSRG. As always, thanks to all of you folks for the fantastic support and encouragement. I love my Triumph! I'll be registering for my first race at Sears in October soon. Still grinning, Dave http://gotbluemilk.com/web130721/63/index.html _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 22 15:19:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1304940413 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 15:19:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FAE4403E8 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 15:17:38 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=73XmyzxmiQpN9vpzvkUk+w==:17 a=2EmNETPkK4kA:10 a=NgFHKRlKq78A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=gk9_Z4UP_jUA:10 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=v1JZojYrAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=2tYGe22xwKrG4wqzZuAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=73XmyzxmiQpN9vpzvkUk+w==:117 Received: from [166.137.150.160] ([166.137.150.160:41003] helo=[10.39.173.85]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id A3/79-07055-171ADE15; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 21:17:37 +0000 References: From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 16:17:34 -0500 To: Dave Hogye Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] First drive #63 TR3 at Thunderhill Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Awesome job Dave. Don't know how many of us can claim such an uneventfully first outing. Look forward to seeing you on track. Greg. On Jul 22, 2013, at 1:56 PM, Dave Hogye wrote: > Hello Friends, > I'm still grinning after a very successful, shall I say perfect, first track > outing in my newly built TR3. I completed five, 25 minute sessions, three at > temps over 100 degrees at Thunderhill Raceway Park yesterday. What a blast! > Great track! > I adjusted tire pressures after the first session and put the car in the air > to give it a thorough check, let the tires rest after a first heat cycle and > had to adjust the rear brakes. That's it. Drove the heck out of it the rest > of the day. > David Ray of Hooked on Driving did some lead follow with me in his Corvette > for the first few laps of the first session to help me get familiar with the > track. He later said he was surprised when I kept up with him the hole time. > I had him evaluate my driving in order to drive my first race with CSRG. > As always, thanks to all of you folks for the fantastic support and > encouragement. I love my Triumph! > I'll be registering for my first race at Sears in October soon. > Still grinning, > Dave > > > http://gotbluemilk.com/web130721/63/index.html > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 22 20:13:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1BC40547 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 20:13:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A08A4035A for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 20:13:30 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=73XmyzxmiQpN9vpzvkUk+w==:17 a=2EmNETPkK4kA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=7_RbCrXI9qubf0OpJp8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Aa7fScqMYhMA:10 a=kvIqgSKwGL4A:10 a=73XmyzxmiQpN9vpzvkUk+w==:117 Received: from [166.137.150.160] ([166.137.150.160:50863] helo=[10.39.173.85]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 5E/DC-07055-9C6EDE15; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 02:13:30 +0000 From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 21:13:29 -0500 To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] Brake pads Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I just got a set of pads for my calipers and they have holes for the smaller pins and I have the calipers with the larger retaining pins. What to do? Can I drill the pad pin holes safely or do I need to pay for shipping again? Thanks, _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 22 20:19:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B2F40542 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 20:19:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B7DA403E8 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 20:19:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6837CA1419 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 20:19:23 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 20:19:22 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: FoT Triumph References: <0CFCDDD1-E05B-4C7C-936A-FB00F9DEB636@austin.rr.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Brake pads Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Greg And Alison Blake wrote: > I just got a set of pads for my calipers and they have holes for the smaller > pins and I have the calipers with the larger retaining pins. What to do? Can > I drill the pad pin holes safely or do I need to pay for shipping again? > Drill. I used to do it when I'd buy Datsun 240Z pads for the TRs and GT6s, and I'm not dead. Yet. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 22 20:57:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1557540413 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 20:57:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39493403F4 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 20:57:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.89]) by qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3eFb1m0021vN32cA8ex8d6; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 02:57:08 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3ev81m00M2yr1eL8iev8yC; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 02:55:08 +0000 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 02:55:08 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Greg And Alison Blake s=q20121106; t=1374548228; bh=oVJ4sVEDlXcpZi6g/iuGPglOUJ20Ak1ZhEyOPHuvg/Q=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=nkFgbQ/auVuD/7wWktRtQVkzM/StMPwSfHrNh2IKKXwuzKCzc/DAg0Truoi8YxvxL nAP/Jpqz4AaUCJc/hi+BImHVJ11U0How8G9vbNvCFkiP9Qcas2aDPXt1ekr4Fl8dnt upbAOz9U0ilcy8x+cNY6EjRzDsE38iXrlwDmWURGz5a9t3djs7YeZXkpxT8xZfqg26 Ms0VHMgnYVbJib5hiPJJJQpZbIKKQeqQU562v6Tx6cYpDnV/DO2v8ENZMVxHkwZ+x1 CfE2Qob+z19R6cHwDT+NSvBY7Vm1Xnt6OSWuusZXL878BLQm6i1LZ2hjmW4f4i2Yi1 YT7bkeS3WeNDQ== Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] First drive #63 TR3 at Thunderhill Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Greg, Thanks. I do have to thank one person in particular who made my successful day possible in many ways...Greg Solow. I had reserved a spot with Hooked on Driving on Tuesday before the event. I'm in the middle of building my own trailer and needed to borrow a trailer. Greg offered to let me used his newly refurbished aluminum trailer. Very cool. This made the tow with my Toyota Tacoma 4x4 almost effortless. The day before heading up to Thunderhill, I was performing a thorough check on the car and knowing it was going to be hot in Willows, I connected the oil lines to the previously installed oil cooler. Then, I decided to check the valve clearances and just happened to noticed a broken pushrod. The cup had fractured and about two thirds of it was missing. I called Greg and he had a competition set in stock and they were the perfect length needed. That was Friday afternoon. There was otherwise no way possible to get the right parts in time. I also believe that Greg's guidance throughout the motor build process was key to it performance and reliability. Thanks so much to Greg Solow. Dave H. p.s. drill the pads. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg And Alison Blake" To: "Dave Hogye" Cc: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:17:34 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] First drive #63 TR3 at Thunderhill Awesome job Dave. Don't know how many of us can claim such an uneventfully first outing. Look forward to seeing you on track. Greg. On Jul 22, 2013, at 1:56 PM, Dave Hogye wrote: > Hello Friends, > I'm still grinning after a very successful, shall I say perfect, first track > outing in my newly built TR3. I completed five, 25 minute sessions, three at > temps over 100 degrees at Thunderhill Raceway Park yesterday. What a blast! > Great track! > I adjusted tire pressures after the first session and put the car in the air > to give it a thorough check, let the tires rest after a first heat cycle and > had to adjust the rear brakes. That's it. Drove the heck out of it the rest > of the day. > David Ray of Hooked on Driving did some lead follow with me in his Corvette > for the first few laps of the first session to help me get familiar with the > track. He later said he was surprised when I kept up with him the hole time. > I had him evaluate my driving in order to drive my first race with CSRG. > As always, thanks to all of you folks for the fantastic support and > encouragement. I love my Triumph! > I'll be registering for my first race at Sears in October soon. > Still grinning, > Dave > > > http://gotbluemilk.com/web130721/63/index.html > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 22 21:50:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6854054E for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 21:50:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364E740043 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 21:50:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.28.17]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MQD003R1EN87690@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 22:49:57 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Greg And Alison Blake" , "FoT Triumph" References: <0CFCDDD1-E05B-4C7C-936A-FB00F9DEB636@austin.rr.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 23:49:57 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] Brake pads Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've drilled them out before with good results. I also drilled my spare calipers so everything is the same size; less spares to carry. Good luck, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg And Alison Blake" To: "FoT Triumph" Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 10:13 PM Subject: [Fot] Brake pads >I just got a set of pads for my calipers and they have holes for the >smaller > pins and I have the calipers with the larger retaining pins. What to do? > Can > I drill the pad pin holes safely or do I need to pay for shipping again? > > Thanks, > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 23 06:51:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3645240534 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 06:51:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.wave1.net (unknown [74.219.105.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5478403F7 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 06:50:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [74.219.99.119] by mail.wave1.net (ArGoSoft Mail Server .NET v.1.0.8.3) with ESMTP (EHLO mtmPC) for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 08:52:44 -0400 From: "Mike Moore" To: Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 08:50:53 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6Ho0Rq3j/aCj1pQ/Guap9KySCJZQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] PVGP at Schenley Park Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net After 25 years of watching the races at Schenley Park I finally got to run it, and the car and I survived! What an experience, crowned roads (no traditional racing line here), light posts and telephone poles for apexes, hale bales over fire hydrants, jersey walls for run offs and lots of stone walls. And an estimated 100,000 people watching Here is a link to the TR vs. MG race. 19 cars in race 5 of them TRs. We took 4,5 6, 11 and 13 places Mike 's TR4 at 2013 PVGP - YouTube Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 23 09:13:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB24940404 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 09:13:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.o2.co.uk (yoda.london.02.net [82.132.130.151]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 380DC40043 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 09:13:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.17.194.225] (82.132.215.87) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.5.140.03) id 51DA924702DF6752; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 16:13:26 +0100 References: From: TR4 Tony Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 16:07:22 +0100 To: marty sukey Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Rad question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Marty This is pretty common with aftermarket rads and the easiest way to fix it is to shim the rad up to match the top hose. The bottom hose connects to a steel pipe and elbow which goes to the bottom of the water pump housing, so you can shorten the pipe easily enough. The top hose is the one that splits under the pressure and movement from the engine, so critical to get this right. Regards Tony Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jul 2013, at 14:36, marty sukey wrote: > I am buttoning up the TR4 project that I am helping a buddy with. He sent me > an aluminum radiator to install. The problem that I ran into last night was > the line coming off the thermostat housing sits about 1 inch higher than the > line entering the top of the radiator. The short hose between them will have > an "S" shape bend to make it work and that just does not look like a good long > term solution. I thought about machining up some spacer to raise the radiator > but then the clearance for the lower radiator hose would be an issue. I don't > see a way to lower the engine. I know there are a bunch of TR4 folks out > there. Anybody else have this issue and resolved it? > > > > Thanks, > > Marty > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 23 09:43:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A66940544 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 09:43:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F168F40382 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 09:43:49 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=73XmyzxmiQpN9vpzvkUk+w==:17 a=2EmNETPkK4kA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=5jj_PlCaPzMA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=b4KrJKo_AAAA:8 a=uN7kqlaXvXuQNf8YMQkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=73XmyzxmiQpN9vpzvkUk+w==:117 Received: from [166.137.150.160] ([166.137.150.160:50983] helo=[10.39.173.85]) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 00/F3-05415-4B4AEE15; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 15:43:49 +0000 References: <0CFCDDD1-E05B-4C7C-936A-FB00F9DEB636@austin.rr.com> From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 10:43:46 -0500 To: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Brake pads Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net No less than 6 response in less than 12 hours about a brake pad in a 55 year old car. I love this group. Thanks guys. Greg On Jul 22, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: > I just got a set of pads for my calipers and they have holes for the smaller > pins and I have the calipers with the larger retaining pins. What to do? Can > I drill the pad pin holes safely or do I need to pay for shipping again? > > Thanks, > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 23 09:53:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AABD740534 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 09:53:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.wave1.net (unknown [74.219.105.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C13C40400 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 09:50:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [74.219.99.119] by mail.wave1.net (ArGoSoft Mail Server .NET v.1.0.8.3) with ESMTP (EHLO mtmPC); Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:42:40 -0400 From: "Mike Moore" To: "'TR4 Tony'" , "'marty sukey'" References: Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:40:50 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6Ht4klpsnDoy+MRwSf3ivm74YiLwAA20Tw Content-Language: en-us Cc: 'FOT' Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Rad question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net May not have clearance between top of radiator and closed hood. Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of TR4 Tony Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:07 AM To: marty sukey Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Rad question Marty This is pretty common with aftermarket rads and the easiest way to fix it is to shim the rad up to match the top hose. The bottom hose connects to a steel pipe and elbow which goes to the bottom of the water pump housing, so you can shorten the pipe easily enough. The top hose is the one that splits under the pressure and movement from the engine, so critical to get this right. Regards Tony Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jul 2013, at 14:36, marty sukey wrote: > I am buttoning up the TR4 project that I am helping a buddy with. He > sent me > an aluminum radiator to install. The problem that I ran into last > night was > the line coming off the thermostat housing sits about 1 inch higher > than the > line entering the top of the radiator. The short hose between them > will have > an "S" shape bend to make it work and that just does not look like a > good long > term solution. I thought about machining up some spacer to raise the radiator > but then the clearance for the lower radiator hose would be an issue. > I don't > see a way to lower the engine. I know there are a bunch of TR4 folks > out there. Anybody else have this issue and resolved it? > > > > Thanks, > > Marty > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore@wave1.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 23 11:00:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD14403A6 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:00:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF534003F for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:00:08 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=oB97bg436VgNdMIDpnuqJg==:17 a=Fw7EOjvc7j4A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=vmPSsYk2Xw0A:10 a=Pyq9K9CWowscuQLKlpiwfMBGOR0=:19 a=7N_aJbbPAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=8RloEfZUAAAA:8 a=hg1TNt9ARqSUS83NqVkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=5nmbGoeUrHwA:10 a=iOgyu-XeqMgA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=INQB15XkED0A:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=9wJyxy7P3Vq5Ud9S:21 a=65cvkAvpMJOK4eaX:21 a=oB97bg436VgNdMIDpnuqJg==:117 Received: from [166.137.148.39] ([166.137.148.39:54351] helo=[10.171.137.16]) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 7B/84-05415-696BEE15; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 17:00:07 +0000 References: <003d01ce87bb$025a4eb0$070eec10$@net> From: Bob Kramer Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 12:00:03 -0500 To: Mike Moore Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Rad question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mine is up and the overflow fitting brushes up against the hood brace in vibrate mode! Bob Kramer Sent from my iPhone On Jul 23, 2013, at 10:40 AM, "Mike Moore" wrote: > May not have clearance between top of radiator and closed hood. > > Thanks > Mike > > Michael T. Moore, CPA > 2007 West 32nd Street > Erie, PA 16508 > > Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 > Fax: 814-864-7383 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of TR4 Tony > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:07 AM > To: marty sukey > Cc: FOT > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Rad question > > Marty > > This is pretty common with aftermarket rads and the easiest way to fix it is > to shim the rad up to match the top hose. The bottom hose connects to a > steel pipe and elbow which goes to the bottom of the water pump housing, so > you can shorten the pipe easily enough. > > The top hose is the one that splits under the pressure and movement from the > engine, so critical to get this right. > > Regards > > Tony > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 22 Jul 2013, at 14:36, marty sukey wrote: > >> I am buttoning up the TR4 project that I am helping a buddy with. He >> sent > me >> an aluminum radiator to install. The problem that I ran into last >> night > was >> the line coming off the thermostat housing sits about 1 inch higher >> than > the >> line entering the top of the radiator. The short hose between them >> will > have >> an "S" shape bend to make it work and that just does not look like a >> good > long >> term solution. I thought about machining up some spacer to raise the > radiator >> but then the clearance for the lower radiator hose would be an issue. >> I > don't >> see a way to lower the engine. I know there are a bunch of TR4 folks >> out there. Anybody else have this issue and resolved it? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Marty >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore@wave1.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 23 11:44:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E35040447 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:44:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s14.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s14.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.89]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A032403F7 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 10:13:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU0-SMTP177 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s14.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 23 Jul 2013 09:13:51 -0700 Received: from [192.168.0.5] ([82.24.244.153]) by BLU0-SMTP177.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 23 Jul 2013 09:13:48 -0700 References: <003d01ce87bb$025a4eb0$070eec10$@net> From: Tony Sheach Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 16:53:51 +0100 To: Mike Moore FILETIME=[9D3D0BD0:01CE87BF] Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Rad question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fair point - in that case you need to either cut the mounts and reweld then, or sent it back to the supplier and get one that's made right !!! Sent from my iPhone On 23 Jul 2013, at 16:40, "Mike Moore" wrote: > May not have clearance between top of radiator and closed hood. > > Thanks > Mike > > Michael T. Moore, CPA > 2007 West 32nd Street > Erie, PA 16508 > > Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 > Fax: 814-864-7383 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of TR4 Tony > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:07 AM > To: marty sukey > Cc: FOT > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Rad question > > Marty > > This is pretty common with aftermarket rads and the easiest way to fix it is > to shim the rad up to match the top hose. The bottom hose connects to a > steel pipe and elbow which goes to the bottom of the water pump housing, so > you can shorten the pipe easily enough. > > The top hose is the one that splits under the pressure and movement from the > engine, so critical to get this right. > > Regards > > Tony > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 22 Jul 2013, at 14:36, marty sukey wrote: > >> I am buttoning up the TR4 project that I am helping a buddy with. He >> sent > me >> an aluminum radiator to install. The problem that I ran into last >> night > was >> the line coming off the thermostat housing sits about 1 inch higher >> than > the >> line entering the top of the radiator. The short hose between them >> will > have >> an "S" shape bend to make it work and that just does not look like a >> good > long >> term solution. I thought about machining up some spacer to raise the > radiator >> but then the clearance for the lower radiator hose would be an issue. >> I > don't >> see a way to lower the engine. I know there are a bunch of TR4 folks >> out there. Anybody else have this issue and resolved it? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Marty >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore@wave1.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 23 12:06:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36D34053A for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 12:06:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com (mail-vc0-f169.google.com [209.85.220.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF924051D for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 12:02:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id ib11so4278299vcb.0 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:02:32 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=TNE3VyYQnX5u/d/39fmMV9SziczcQkbFJ1qvWqnJ7DA=; b=RRCJgx3uxthgIclxr0CFsEMED+dCce1ZlcLsXgFIWIGdBLiU01lXHuQf+jtSOcUI5Z 6jgg2H8iYwbjVN80cqVzlNAnWY8m3SaDY0wohkZM4J/gwzgSUgtK/FnkP15Gjb9jD/pX H1j2Gyf9AY2ckDZ3T206CGhxoXNVJTA9L3/ssTsejwHcoUbDi0S3OAUJz+APAhoIF1Zd hCEcIGu8Q+CncPlhOBUwyi9q3kHoGH2Wf16cd4BlbQ/ylLG0E4M6xX3/4YxoW8RzuwTu PazQE5gWe0rEMja/T63dLo01GrsGRnTgqOknREw0gKlKgAHh2FLt7RdSZfnivY8tztuO TnSw== t14mr12039906vca.15.1374602552384; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:02:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.19.166 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:02:32 -0700 (PDT) References: <000001ce87a3$44cce220$ce66a660$@net> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 13:02:32 -0500 From: Jason Ostrowski To: Mike Moore Cc: triumph friends Subject: Re: [Fot] PVGP at Schenley Park Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Neat video Somehow I've never watched in-car footage from that race. Pretty cool. old school! way to pick 'em off one by one. Looking forward to racing with you guys next month. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Mike Moore wrote: > After 25 years of watching the races at Schenley Park I finally got to run > it, and the car and I survived! > > > > What an experience, crowned roads (no traditional racing line here), light > posts and telephone poles for apexes, hale bales over fire hydrants, jersey > walls for run offs and lots of stone walls. And an estimated 100,000 people > watching > > > > Here is a link to the TR vs. MG race. 19 cars in race 5 of them TRs. We > took > 4,5 6, 11 and 13 places > > > > Mike 's > TR4 at 2013 PVGP - YouTube > > > > Thanks > > Mike > > > > Michael T. Moore, CPA > > 2007 West 32nd Street > > Erie, PA 16508 > > > > Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 > > Fax: 814-864-7383 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 24 07:37:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F204F40402 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 07:37:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m05.mx.aol.com (omr-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33EB34003F for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 07:37:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.202]) by omr-m05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id CDEBD7009D056; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 09:37:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtd004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtd004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.205]) by mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 796A8E000081; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 09:37:25 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 09:37:25 -0400 (EDT) To: jeffreykelley@charter.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1374673045; bh=Q8Y4PO+PAviMsb+T4GS5ejy+8/X/gS04gNyHI0Jn3Ns=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QhVbHuA7e4y4dIgmU7nP0n7T7F6s0YCZ3kPZYSPRAv1UbOs+dnPWvmTqEysD09uVs v2QGUX6lqzdvh13wgS1oTnywJXLtrvRKtFChfpS9Gx3D1YFuKV/vS1yo1N2Fj/7jmd fiLf7udxx0+iXuwb6r9gud+tN9+SDq+X6YFx2tEw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33ca51efd8953047 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Manifold needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 07/24/2013 8:04:55 AM Central Daylight Time, jeffreykelley@charter.net writes: > Bill, > > If your still looking here's a manifold for sale on EBay. > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Triumph-TR-2-Intake-Manifold-/221258394686?pt=Vinta > ge_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3384072c3e&vxp=mtr > Jeff... Thanks, but in fact I was looking through my stuff on behalf of someone else on the FOT list. I'll copy this email to the list, hopefully he will see it. Bill _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 24 11:52:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1549040400 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:52:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45062403DB for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:51:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 45A16700E2CF2 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:51:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtd004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtd004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.205]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1DBB7E000081 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:51:58 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net From: billdentin@aol.com Received: from 70.194.134.143 by webmail-vd020.sysops.aol.com (205.188.21.130) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:51:57 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:51:57 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1374688318; bh=cuCOVZDgRoB+Sh8Oyj3gYA2ePsoIdskT/9e9t0WgSpw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=or07emJru6/rXkAdOLDNbZGXIvPrdBdPNLgUL7o6e7E4Z5jbdJ6mZNrmF90D+WqKL sH8y/ux0bAdyeGhTn+Wa4MJ5ErsDadQrr6fuK72KE9nQqorbnd+nx1516WavCpp/PE 2YWM7MF4hkSDs55AZ3Fl66NhdNVwJIb7fehSXoLQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c51f0143e78fe Subject: [Fot] The Hawk at Road American with Brian Redman... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici... Last weekend saw The Hawk at Road America with Brian Redman. This major vintage/historic racing event started many decades ago as the Chicago Historic Races. It has experienced many sponsor related name changes down through the years. Brian Redman, God Bless him, remains the only constant. But the event continues to lay claim as the biggest and finest vintage racing event in North America. It gets my vote. This year it was beastly hot on Thursday and Friday. On Thursday our thermometer read 100 degrees, but it was the humidity that got your attention. You'd drink gallons of water, but never have to go to the rest room. Even standing still, you'd sweat it out before it made it to your bladder. Saturday and Sunday the weather was fabulous. Not many Triumphs show up at this event any more. They race more than thirty classes in ten race groups, and that means not much track time. There are three (SVRA, Midwestern Council, and VSCDA) other sanctioning bodies running vintage at Road America (May, August, and September), and all offer much more track time. There may have been more, but I counted three: my early TR3, Andy Willms' TR3A, and bob Wismer's TR4. The shinning star was Andy Willms, who keeps getting better and better. He is flirting with breaking the three minute lap, making the 80 mph average. If my notes are correct, he had 3:01 and change in the second qualifying session and the Feature race. Way to go, Andy. You look smooth and 'in control' out there. Bob Wismer had a 3:14 and change in the Feature. His car is tired and waiting for a fresh engine to be installed. My TR3 did have a fresh engine, but it also had gremlins. I only had it out for two sessions, and it kept spitting at me through the bonnet louvers. The first session I ran was Saturday morning. The car ran great, but half way through there was a major pressure POOOOFF and an oily spray covered my face shield and windscreens. The car continued to run will but kept spitting at me (editorial comment?). We searched for problems, and except for adding 3/34 quart of water...didn't really find anything. The only other session I went out for was the Feature race, but by turn five on the pace lap I was already getting spit at, and I had not even put the coals to it yet. So I exited at five and parked it. We'll have to see what that is all about. I skipped four of my Race Groups' six sessions, so I had an opportunity to watch my group race. Truth be told the racing in Race Group TWO was far superior to the racing in the Feature CanAm race. In the front of Group Two you had two ex-National Champions (Denny Wilson and Vic Skirmants) going at it tooth and nail. Wilson won his championship in a Triumph TR6, but was racing a Lotus Super 7 at the Hawk. Skirmants was in his infamous Porsche 356. And the two of them got all they could handle from Mike Besic in his yellow Alfa Duetto, and a gaggle of Porsche bathtubs. But there was GREAT racing in this race group up and down the entire field. Very, very exciting to watch. Road America is fantastic, and the 2013 Kastner Cup at the Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival is going to be GREAT! Bill Dentinger. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 24 13:21:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C8F403F2 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:21:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m08.mx.aol.com (omr-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.222.129]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971DA403DB for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:20:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.134]) by omr-m08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 14E2E7000009E for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:20:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 734B0E000200 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:20:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 14:20:02 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1374693604; bh=kXJrbGB2NLtC3fbEvhfhfNAza0YXc/n2YBWTUFmBA1w=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=j8BBJ3dwkfWo9XIiZQQ4IftxrOv7ySCrPUJaSBDfb8bP9+o9CHwJW82ZfgXXCM8nL 5mzLTokCJGnEU/5K3Y5krKIbtwp7QdLaoZRD+Ayp4fg7FYRs8EIYbEs45M8cKfdTJl 2E+21MCUUskHOcxo+rw0gQmtQPA+we93SoH2rouA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338651f028e426bc Subject: [Fot] Photo Shop person needed. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Greg Petrolati's FOT logo creation is in need of photoshop. The VSCDA has had a long standing tradition of providing a driver premium that is a "Rally Board" decal. It's a collectible. We can have our logo on this rather nice piece. But they need it in black and white. The printer wants to charge $55 for doing our logo in black and white. I have a high resolution copy. Is there anyone out there that can save us the $55.00? Details, details, details...... Thanks. Joe A _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 24 13:26:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8D140410 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:26:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF2040079 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:26:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2B7A0E3C for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:26:12 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:26:12 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <0EABEF64-43C1-4550-BC3F-8F31AF88027F@cs.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Photo Shop person needed. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe Alexander wrote: > Greg Petrolati's FOT logo creation is in need of photoshop. > > The VSCDA has had a long standing tradition of providing a driver premium that > is a "Rally Board" decal. It's a collectible. We can have our logo on this > rather nice piece. But they need it in black and white. > > The printer wants to charge $55 for doing our logo in black and white. > Wow. It should take about a minute to convert, hardly $55 worth of time. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 24 13:37:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA72540437 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:37:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com (omr-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0241C403E8 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:36:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.5]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id D713F700000B0; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:36:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 82E3DE0000E9; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:36:43 -0400 (EDT) References: <0EABEF64-43C1-4550-BC3F-8F31AF88027F@cs.com> <51F02A54.4030401@bradakis.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 14:36:40 -0500 To: Mark J Bradakis x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1374694603; bh=lJFIHYqfYrbuSK/ECMzrQpH/PQzxAd3p0kTfskyaoX0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=nHxk9RSmIHvrUh++zArCAf3AJs0OqtmG0euNtUM02g/8/MUfkeSzVfZ2CEfHcoz5I BGkkjhe2XtlwxByaefwadeFwfo8lPSIImcCiNv9wvXfFlxVPfDyRc4hDtMJtcRYg2V sZysYtUzkvEmqQZaGaMfIlWtJeA4g1ptFw10jMxc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290551f02ccb4efe Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Photo Shop person needed. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes! And I don't want to spend FOT money this way. But the VSCDA "rally board" decal is a real keeper, and will be available for sale as well as a driver premium. HELP! Sent from my iPad On Jul 24, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > Joe Alexander wrote: >> Greg Petrolati's FOT logo creation is in need of photoshop. >> >> The VSCDA has had a long standing tradition of providing a driver premium that >> is a "Rally Board" decal. It's a collectible. We can have our logo on this >> rather nice piece. But they need it in black and white. >> >> The printer wants to charge $55 for doing our logo in black and white. > > Wow. It should take about a minute to convert, hardly $55 worth of time. > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 24 14:33:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B4CC40418 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 14:33:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d03.mx.aol.com (omr-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0E5403E7 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 14:33:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.139]) by omr-d03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id C97E9700000BE for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:33:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mkb001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mkb001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.98.1]) by mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 5FBFDE000086 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:33:36 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net From: George Wright Received: from 70.89.238.9 by webmail-d299.sysops.aol.com (205.188.93.235) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:33:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:33:36 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1374698016; bh=4X3Rxg7Oa2Cgp+0ogsqSE4jwopb+ADSLxe4muvnEuEA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=el+JlqXwwaapfwDNBclfLZFAjTqCeSfooa3BHOmhYEJLj7VrIJ0qo+UaPrKcYqwJt DaIWcYvkegv3nPFG7yNyMp682Jm1rDvWxIZ+1o7YjebXumptLOQKDH7Yme/9B06pKp 6/VDg8MkxAt7UgQVHXi93+X6AFOKUywqQv3n3Ezc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338b51f03a203c0f Subject: [Fot] TR4 race car For Sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fellow FOT'rs, I have made a decision to sell my TR-4 race car and am posting it with FOT first before I go to commercial sites to sell it thru a broker. The link below is a few photos and description but it comes with a lot of spares and history. The asking price is $28.500 Please contact me off line or on my cell phone 804-370-0531 for more details and specifics if interested. This car has been a consistent front runner and is in very good race condition. The engine has dyno time only and the car is very well prepared with many special features and fresh paint. Thanks http://www.flickr.com/photos/99366981@N04/ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 24 15:04:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101FC40414 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:04:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CFC7403B1 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:03:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from AR5J3QR6XV (cpe-70-113-116-224.austin.res.rr.com [70.113.116.224]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M2t94-1UD1pp3SEA-00rxCp; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 17:03:48 -0400 From: "FoodDude" To: Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:03:50 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac6IsBlv/wSrnmXDT0i8oU5QiEU7iQ== Content-Language: en-us sIl2Ft5XR5BagmvK2H2nQInaxF1DtD2EXAmQrbrtqxGZCpOCww FW6BsaRndVDAuhJ2GvRLyUfBOdv2NnS0iBS1Fcq0WpFlcg8x+M qLf+MAKGqVtVkswj3pSWGS507k+3/UGQOJ1TMOsL+k/2G13NQa 4+xfgleTMOS6TlHxBvcICvsRDHgfu/cDBrsdWJM/+FSePxmO4K KeZfnzjqvjz1ZqP1EGPh8/rCuQ60bWWEhllW8TCdskervWq7YG 63SEZo47h0oZDMUUxzosb4F0+UM959BdlyuVmJuxrmp57hfOLg 4+H3RpK9STbIIyl1ExABAUNa3cMMZdQhtnub16zy5 Subject: [Fot] Fast Action Needed: COTA Garages Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fot, I have 2 garages held at Circuit of The America's for the October Vintage races (SVRA). They are hold two adjoining. Each is roughly 22' wide x 48' deep, with overhead doors on each end. We can fit 6 of our cars in each with room to maneuver and work. It is open space with bathroom and electricity/lights. One bay is spoken for between the Austin members, and if there are 6 of you who have an interest in the other I need to know NOW as they require full payment and its 1st to pay gets them. SVRA is charging $500/day per bay per day, 5 day minimum, so $2500/6 cars = $416.66 each ($83.33/day each). Yes, very spendy, but how many can say they garaged in Lewis Hamilton's F1 garage??? (not sure whose we'll actually get.!) Please let me know via email or phone 512-576-1933 ASAP. Thanks, Dave Foreman #24 BRG 64 Spitfire, CVAR, SVRA, SCCA #22 Green 70 TR6, Chump _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 24 15:39:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988B6403F6 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:39:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d05.mx.aol.com (omr-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912E0403B1 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:39:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.2]) by omr-d05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4E21370000097 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 17:39:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 0E6E4E0000A7 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 17:39:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:36:56 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1374701975; bh=NjjdZTS+WAAD5/fAQ24ocFflpE7NLfDG6Pe1X2YTeLA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=MAKhbBuCNMSF0/5DEYPGpmPJpQcaOlvZe8Oem6SQU2JGVlWM6et0Eg6HJKscJo/Sa BKKn70lDmOyd8UkV1w8VFCUEo6fA3VLxZ35RMIx0hmcGJdHjPg5nxdZho6pWmzWX7X 3MJ8c8IkM7Kv9UwFC7kwktcvrbfeMdB03mxSXnTI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290251f049967cc2 Subject: [Fot] Kcup Decal help....thanks! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for all of the responses for help. I think I have a solution in the works. Stand by. Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 24 16:46:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F4E40404 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:46:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm50-vm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm50-vm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.87.248]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C21403C6 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:46:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.181] by nm50.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jul 2013 22:46:27 -0000 Received: from [208.71.42.204] by tm17.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jul 2013 22:46:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jul 2013 22:46:27 -0000 s=s1024; t=1374705987; bh=GZWzy+/QNE/xJJFSC215qdMoFbfSmywEqmq0DfWyNew=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=uqBSWRvKEB4zvRtoYBa7o/Qao9XZzyhZlXktAskI6NWb7Mi6hqUTQeZZwIM9jbj9MjPyATLX+4RMdgJybM/MexZ/Yg6b8Pd14XQc9Y3quMawRKsAEmG3CUAq55AlVtYqUKZ6t54Z+gjN3q+e11Uou6JXB7WT1RClFH0HbBlsHIc= aQV1VlaTttNMhe86aJa3Mjuj_.bWsCSK5ARvJKR6MfHuEJPwUO_.Z1lyY490 IPeFCNa0a7I4ngGEZXwEREiAvRDly3NkEsmnhrrzzfPGSu_Di8eQ.t0zCXnh 2lT5X2CVaVGC6bl.xTLdn2I1Tngmv0TBZJYA1QkT5k7.3BBjD3U9y_Mufy.0 yThUfGM0eLa75H.vxVhkLFCbGDhn1Syt.IvrfclUJojhz1WrVpCrFpxy7gPT 3tyLHxlDL8u7bYQcHt.gObP96jXNjpFqHpdm5e96bJlESOMGJekz2_VsWIix Gt9pAI3pVGqOVOnQRoUvONgnNbde5f_WXbPkP3tL_JCv9RVEvhJdiwstIFSR Su_konKF.c0q1reV3vcrt_7rHKcw5iQjoXl89_nUIAasojHLiw1oPDR1aUqh MLn18pbgKxAbfe_DnYqcayAlFCv7SOAv8dlNtvrzlriBaf4s_xgkVB0vygRA ae5IiJiy_fRcGnah5QxGz3.FSG8It5Y1mlPIWmkAQYUZBDxJiG.hYY7gYOtN WDYjoOjeSzxnvX4t4HBL3eDvfJdHBDLnbsw8l1oAFm2ECGdCf_.dTpDzX with ) by smtp215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 2013 15:46:27 -0700 PDT References: <0EABEF64-43C1-4550-BC3F-8F31AF88027F@cs.com> <51F02A54.4030401@bradakis.com> From: "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:46:26 -0600 To: Joe Alexander Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Photo Shop person needed. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hey Joe. Send me the file. We have lots of photoshop programs and can likely get this done. Ty Sent from my iPad (Please excuse any errors or typos) On Jul 24, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Yes! And I don't want to spend FOT money this way. > > But the VSCDA "rally board" decal is a real keeper, and will be available for > sale as well as a driver premium. > > HELP! > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jul 24, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > >> Joe Alexander wrote: >>> Greg Petrolati's FOT logo creation is in need of photoshop. >>> >>> The VSCDA has had a long standing tradition of providing a driver premium > that >>> is a "Rally Board" decal. It's a collectible. We can have our logo on this >>> rather nice piece. But they need it in black and white. >>> >>> The printer wants to charge $55 for doing our logo in black and white. >> >> Wow. It should take about a minute to convert, hardly $55 worth of time. >> >> mjb. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tylerpthompson@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 24 17:34:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3795240414 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 17:34:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s32.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s32.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.107]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64BF9403E8 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 17:34:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU0-SMTP103 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s32.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:34:12 -0700 Received: from [10.9.1.94] ([166.147.80.213]) by BLU0-SMTP103.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:34:11 -0700 References: <0EABEF64-43C1-4550-BC3F-8F31AF88027F@cs.com> From: Greg Petrolati Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:34:07 -0700 To: Joe Alexander FILETIME=[4D0AF930:01CE88C6] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Photo Shop person needed. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I still have the FOT logo in b&w... I sent it to you a couple of years ago... All you need to do is ask for it Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2013, at 12:20 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Greg Petrolati's FOT logo creation is in need of photoshop. > > The VSCDA has had a long standing tradition of providing a driver premium that > is a "Rally Board" decal. It's a collectible. We can have our logo on this > rather nice piece. But they need it in black and white. > > The printer wants to charge $55 for doing our logo in black and white. > > I have a high resolution copy. Is there anyone out there that can save us the > $55.00? > > Details, details, details...... > > Thanks. > > Joe A > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/greenman62@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 25 08:31:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7733403FA for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 08:31:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8AFA403B2 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 08:30:59 -0600 (MDT) a=ft3aQrzeuTtyZjRjRVvyHw==:17 a=ufghDHTLyEAA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=FNKWJjY8BVEA:10 a=29XldvE3IwJhmY5ggTYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=R5WSQ4VN9U8A:10 a=CshCpI1X_sUA:10 a=Oiubmp94h-9c5NjoGmcA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=-Hkhyno4WtDFUG_9:21 a=ft3aQrzeuTtyZjRjRVvyHw==:117 Received: from [65.29.157.118] ([65.29.157.118:42487] helo=[10.0.1.4]) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 1D/29-18468-2A631F15; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 14:30:58 +0000 From: Allen Washatko To: Friends of Triumph Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 09:30:57 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Group 44 Paint Colors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT, Does anyone know the exact paint color codes for the two greens on the stripes of the Group 44 cars? Allen Allen & Jody Washatko 1971 TR6 - Number 6 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 25 09:06:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F0B40408 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 09:06:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm9-vm10.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm9-vm10.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.201]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A49403B2 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 09:06:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.163] by nm9.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jul 2013 15:06:06 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.140] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jul 2013 15:06:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1016.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jul 2013 15:06:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 79638 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Jul 2013 15:06:06 -0000 s=s1024; t=1374764766; bh=RZ6pk2rmQlb5RbHpKX4sqwkKNSYs0f9ZCinygTq63cU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xjNBZrwxxm7atlpaBceaLC3zpptKfnWD57uKFjaMnFera/K+j4rPfMUyq9gdIEr3+j7MFDFJNIqNn6+vzCMRosUmHgWLgRgB7iSEZU49Pfp8qgC6fw6fzBI8f3z7O4tGngPwZStByKYtYBJqZZb/BgDn6ZaJKv/EUaghVBuFkXI= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uNgXGY83wOkdDNYHs59Z/7xtBl7y9sic56ig18uHANnm2hQ0vVRmwfTFw17XzVUgkwxhUcwq5XDyeq0SOZkcpLt17e+w6hBXTlV78krF8cjxKTTliP4hfNszYt/mHejXXmVXR7cn9XfGSJXQ34nBN1mBnghaRI3k1mLRcRFjar4=; kskEAwwfVeS39XOSRMWlPJMFlupV9yoXgY4Nyf0VKBuSQRss.sSIvx_PzKPO zTflYIOd8Lk_.kR_lrsHpcDfdW8YlOYRsn5CQ0J99AIqDX7.YrkFpeCA5HW8 czJdn0wyjol0V9YJb04BGwmA7SCGXqmaVrUaHmRm64XPthxwUr5WVRhy7U4h bFm7NiQP6CWaGpZDs.bVbs1neUT5riiEWW1avSEGZOBEQl0brd1JE_DIsiPK FRNbus5uKE9543Uk8FgAOGAhOgWfMYwvVZIMzFy3ED8nqgLrJP.vrfwTbIAH yw5JjOqUs4j4l96OajIRJ2qAskUtF86ykGKd4ZsuefbtqgYD46HIdcREnxKT uSE6c.zVxHIRgMwr.lY6yCMj2_MZv5YwTfDmPMjE0Kz7J0YH8IvO2tTi.lni ahJzO8aT1XlFgWib7Jqwz7rgzIVC_wymfJPmOTdTfH6fPiI0COW0pkKDCYMj .zZTQb1alACwmPnZy9k1qSDwPG00LKJS6 Received: from [68.165.86.214] by web182206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 08:06:06 PDT SSd2ZSBiZWVuIG91dCBvZiB0aGUgY291bnRyeSBmb3IgMTAgZGF5cyBhbmQgaGFkIG5vIGFjY2VzcyB0byBhbnl0aGluZyAoYnkgY2hvaWNlKSBzbyBpZiBJIG1pc3NlZCBzb21ldGhpbmcgaW1wb3J0YW50IEknbGwgdHJ5IHRvIHBsYXkgY2F0Y2ggdXAgaW4gYSBkYXkgb3IgdHdvLi4uCgpCb2JieSBXaGl0ZWhlYWQBMAEBAQE- Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 08:06:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] unusually silent? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've been out of the country for 10 days and had no access to anything (by choice) so if I missed something important I'll try to play catch up in a day or two... Bobby Whitehead _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 25 09:12:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E794040E for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 09:12:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d08.mx.aol.com (omr-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.207]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6532C403B2 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 09:12:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.193]) by omr-d08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1A51570040A8A; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:12:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id B5676E00008C; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:12:31 -0400 (EDT) References: <1374764766.72462.YahooMailNeo@web182206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 10:12:32 -0500 To: Bobby Whitehead x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1374765152; bh=LDlWJhUMBT27nQADfvikPwlBogdIUWon2HbZWY09NYE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=JvTYmy5+xOCujfrddfKPTE6wfj4ynj70sSqIoHIxmxv4zdFVR3J0Sb95GvHU8b5o/ uSsA/LLfSJLWZVNkUwIv4Y08EaN5nOuv3syhUxjL18vDzkFTlMr7q05xFLpMOZufJK hmkhHFgm9w6dbNEs8Nl8aOXorKIWrEx/+N+PKZVA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c151f1405f35dd Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] unusually silent? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Your wife must have paid the ransom. Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > I've been out of the country for 10 days and had no access to anything (by choice) so if I missed something important I'll try to play catch up in a day or two... > > Bobby Whitehead > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 25 11:01:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4FEA40401 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:01:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy3-pub.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy3-pub.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.30.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A2B54403B2 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:01:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 22466 invoked by uid 0); 25 Jul 2013 17:01:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy3.unifiedlayer.com) (66.147.243.72) by gproxy3.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 25 Jul 2013 17:01:17 -0000 {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Received: from just64.justhost.com (just64.justhost.com [173.254.28.64]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.64); Thu, 25 Jul 2013 17:01:17 GMT Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=59685 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V2Ouj-0008K1-0G for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:01:17 -0600 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 12:01:14 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: [Fot] Press Pass for Kas Cup? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net One of my crew for the Kas Cup race is a photographer for a publishing company. He's interested in obtaining a press pass so he can take better pictures. Does anyone know how one would go about obtaining a press pass? Thanks, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 25 11:13:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4B94040A for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:13:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m08.mx.aol.com (omr-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.222.129]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40FB4403BA for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:09:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.131]) by omr-m08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 54916700A92FC; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 13:09:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.116] (208-38-70-241.static.izoom.net [208.38.70.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 156AFE00009A; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 13:09:57 -0400 (EDT) References: <20130725170138.EB9F440400@autox.team.net> From: Jhouathome Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 12:09:54 -0500 To: Tony Drews x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1374772197; bh=HNvB2F44vO6BmwprL5qEl6Kc6RK1ysRgAhAWrGRtoXk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=s67Cg46GwedWwdBd1Xo4Rf6ELmcMzyZnLOv3Bmz7Jwf/o1/0Ld43rLK6zlleGyPL7 FkaIU+gHF18eatDtMdUA0v2WsoIakngIIGM8rVrSHiYzP7DNBa4tXSLjTRlQ0yQHfS 5cP7TZ9Ri84olVs3NNdk3HEuKS/wqgeeklCOkzXM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338351f15be54a76 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Press Pass for Kas Cup? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Tony. I just discussed this last week with RA. Media credentials are handled by RA. If he is working for a magazine etc., they will issue him a media pass. If he is a photographer who will be selling pictures to the likes of us competitors, he will have to register as a vendor and pay RA's normal fee. He should contact RA through their website, www.roadamerica.com for instructions. See you in September! John Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > One of my crew for the Kas Cup race is a photographer for a publishing company. He's interested in obtaining a press pass so he can take better pictures. Does anyone know how one would go about obtaining a press pass? > > Thanks, Tony Drews > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhouathome@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 25 11:14:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCE324040B for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:14:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com (omr-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EEE240408 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:14:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.129]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9E0BD70000091; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 13:13:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 2F403E0000F4; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 13:13:57 -0400 (EDT) References: <20130725170150.4660F40408@autox.team.net> From: Joe Alexander Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 12:13:56 -0500 To: Tony Drews x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1374772438; bh=XKY7k3NOeW+pyOxtObCpOsiHxNF9CNVaA35xay4b3VA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=IZ+uHTNxUR76xVcHsHzZ0axbQiaWjcjJFsBwufN6Zh/A1xfIXmGyzUB3j4P/XlCtB RPC4bDALOzfkdlWzI/RjidHQ/4l3+aeoGWszQuO9Fs31km8bNSVg9RfKbOj3vxJSKq OZlOByb1cGK/nKKw+JEWrg688zKNTu6/+nVbuEfQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338151f15cd4663b Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Press Pass for Kas Cup? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Road America website has a whole section on securing press passes. They are quite exacting about the requirements.....as you might expect of Road America. Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > One of my crew for the Kas Cup race is a photographer for a publishing company. He's interested in obtaining a press pass so he can take better pictures. Does anyone know how one would go about obtaining a press pass? > > Thanks, Tony Drews > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 25 11:45:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA814040A for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:45:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f52.google.com (mail-pa0-f52.google.com [209.85.220.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC1F40397 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:42:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id kq13so2248359pab.39 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 10:42:21 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=3DQVWmBGhlHtwL0BkAJfSn1cn0jPG12Niqb1hmJ70c0=; b=bAlRQOINNxzdk++tl+CWusqz8dIGmJrZrydfP7+cK8j0wroHiIsSXsAFoawzb5WNNP cJ5nYR3pkt/o1LRPiMJWtBNlkb3KefQti21l+8FgfqrFcoANMXco7xSAAjISGihBYoRF Xps2ut5sFyXUu7L7XIIymSXXZuFOl7KTWHYpmazhUARyavtN6KKEfp1oWTWtIFQEMdkr 3HUGVBOCMvkN6oYWrbejhj58RP9hC9CrFAIdxmqi+nGiiKKWD6gJXhXVP4Paj7wn9cWU ZpgRPjcVqMikp1lllB1zQ7nMiF2hwNYqf+d2KwPSYwTUHcVJFUXjReNkrrkCW0OKuYeH 7czg== fg12mr17526932pac.178.1374774141577; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 10:42:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.189.131 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 10:42:21 -0700 (PDT) References: <20130725170138.EB9F440400@autox.team.net> <98B972D8-8CDF-47D7-9F0F-7808BDBC8E2C@aol.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 10:42:21 -0700 From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" To: Jhouathome Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Press Pass for Kas Cup? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Last year at the Road Atlanta Kas cup Bob Lang was able to get himself and me press credentials as the "official" documenters of the Kas Cup for the Friends of Triumph (non) organization. No fee as it was not for resale purposes. Hope that can work here also. Bob might weigh in on what he did. On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Jhouathome wrote: > Hi Tony. I just discussed this last week with RA. Media credentials are > handled by RA. If he is working for a magazine etc., they will issue him a > media pass. If he is a photographer who will be selling pictures to the > likes > of us competitors, he will have to register as a vendor and pay RA's normal > fee. He should contact RA through their website, www.roadamerica.com for > instructions. > See you in September! > John > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jul 25, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > > > One of my crew for the Kas Cup race is a photographer for a publishing > company. He's interested in obtaining a press pass so he can take better > pictures. Does anyone know how one would go about obtaining a press pass? > > > > Thanks, Tony Drews > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhouathome@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 25 13:00:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B532440409 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 13:00:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (isis.mit.edu [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C77F400A4 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 12:55:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6PItBWN000498; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 14:55:11 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 14:55:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley References: <20130725170138.EB9F440400@autox.team.net> <98B972D8-8CDF-47D7-9F0F-7808BDBC8E2C@aol.com> Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Press Pass for Kas Cup? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ummm - regarding Road Atlanta in 2012, I think Joe A. handled that. Either that or Henry Frye. I just showed up and took pictures. Going to the Road America web site is def. the right approach. rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 25 Jul 2013, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley wrote: > Last year at the Road Atlanta Kas cup Bob Lang was able to get himself and > me press credentials as the "official" documenters of the Kas Cup for the > Friends of Triumph (non) organization. No fee as it was not for resale > purposes. Hope that can work here also. Bob might weigh in on what he did. > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Jhouathome wrote: > >> Hi Tony. I just discussed this last week with RA. Media credentials are >> handled by RA. If he is working for a magazine etc., they will issue him a >> media pass. If he is a photographer who will be selling pictures to the >> likes >> of us competitors, he will have to register as a vendor and pay RA's normal >> fee. He should contact RA through their website, www.roadamerica.com for >> instructions. >> See you in September! >> John >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Jul 25, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Tony Drews wrote: >> >>> One of my crew for the Kas Cup race is a photographer for a publishing >> company. He's interested in obtaining a press pass so he can take better >> pictures. Does anyone know how one would go about obtaining a press pass? >>> >>> Thanks, Tony Drews >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhouathome@aol.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/lang@isis.mit.edu _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 25 13:06:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E5E40406 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 13:06:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d05.mx.aol.com (omr-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6420400A4 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 13:05:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.132]) by omr-d05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 48FD570002C6A; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 15:04:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id AFD7FE000085; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 15:04:53 -0400 (EDT) References: <20130725170138.EB9F440400@autox.team.net> <98B972D8-8CDF-47D7-9F0F-7808BDBC8E2C@aol.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 14:04:53 -0500 To: "Robert M. Lang" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1374779094; bh=VupOh40gmkarfVF+yE/YLMmCUm8zX53fLPe7kPYtlvc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=EjCCOMOkzgb22vI04N+LtAE+L5m5tLB8cjo5dmphNN2K4hA3LxvY1skcUO0Fk5C42 4yrybmtceLaVtygzPBzveLwE5ZS1i3WswrioGgdDlQXsHWxe46Vcjfw4vNV9dVY3cz JIwzqMAHqFnxt/z/s5P33inhAtxReSz8MrcTKdvE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338451f176d55341 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Press Pass for Kas Cup? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We may have just sent an email to Road Atlanta. I have worked in Road America Media Center. Road America has a completely different set of rules than Road Atlanta. Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2013, at 1:55 PM, "Robert M. Lang" wrote: > Ummm - regarding Road Atlanta in 2012, I think Joe A. handled that. Either that or Henry Frye. > > I just showed up and took pictures. > > Going to the Road America web site is def. the right approach. > > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > On Thu, 25 Jul 2013, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley wrote: > >> Last year at the Road Atlanta Kas cup Bob Lang was able to get himself and >> me press credentials as the "official" documenters of the Kas Cup for the >> Friends of Triumph (non) organization. No fee as it was not for resale >> purposes. Hope that can work here also. Bob might weigh in on what he did. >> >> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Jhouathome wrote: >> >>> Hi Tony. I just discussed this last week with RA. Media credentials are >>> handled by RA. If he is working for a magazine etc., they will issue him a >>> media pass. If he is a photographer who will be selling pictures to the >>> likes >>> of us competitors, he will have to register as a vendor and pay RA's normal >>> fee. He should contact RA through their website, www.roadamerica.com for >>> instructions. >>> See you in September! >>> John >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On Jul 25, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Tony Drews wrote: >>> >>>> One of my crew for the Kas Cup race is a photographer for a publishing >>> company. He's interested in obtaining a press pass so he can take better >>> pictures. Does anyone know how one would go about obtaining a press pass? >>>> >>>> Thanks, Tony Drews >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhouathome@aol.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/lang@isis.mit.edu > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 25 16:09:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C3F40414 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 16:09:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm24-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.161]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A029840322 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 16:02:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.172] by nm24.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jul 2013 22:02:58 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.244] by tm18.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jul 2013 22:02:58 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1053.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jul 2013 22:02:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 97996 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Jul 2013 22:02:58 -0000 s=s1024; t=1374789778; bh=wjvCx48HOecfwGgdJZ7OvnJyTK2yf8A5zG/Naz52I4U=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=S/yKTY5K8PanYEa6Z7R3pSwNrmBxNnrk/zd1PtvPydgdIERA1JUh6KMhC5e+1kmrilY2CYdtFF/C3xaBlexUjwCiyFEdiB2lPY3cvAl8gxZH+LS2ZBD/wjD74V5iIRyziBiyu6ATPByuGtaDuXGIuKeqgRpEwu1xmcyea9Ku4Y8= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yBbiBupCao59/eXTYOEGG631JHGcnbaAxH1hy13T4fn6SBnR8JgwsxAlxSNLTVl4nnUvDyjcorEb0B5+2Mu/vcwLp/zThoDLHL+c6Oxk6BnX/5pJ87p78UO/7L1Iq7LRixopKSfnMUKbVzEDDnO2VruOIlxBdIhAhCdwM7WntH0=; .k7vT1qIpNbrgv026C.D1hFFBqRkYVozEOrHKU9aKC1UaXGB3zat9mYrrnpy Dqkep3nbzNuEf6uuoIsZ4fBBvZ6UnCsXuZ27YJglqJUGWk2CwwZzd4uQ4ee9 mSSIp5G_3B6WQ3yijj.kwDmn4nB603Ub0yvvN3yyP1b.kfnRqNPd2C90vM6z UM08R3hvvMaUhlryuwUUl2dSPgsVNUY6uFUrbSDEaTadivpoTzCjvcCPoZ8D lav7aKoDnzHPOBHDUMuCFob6bo2yIlnJiobRE_28rdyizRon76D7uYPE34Oo J2VXeWawy.vzlUdulCD.8fv7JSGNIQ0BcwaRVZndLkiRcf.1EEKD1hdvBQKH 59CF21EK6Tg6UqNUSBZCN.2edQ2gwq9g7QLlBMrAbMA486hWfE3eV2PJYJFw Swqg8_ltUByDX5tWzjOWOiqTWBilp_XQDRae7Nzevx9Druq0o_BBuZF572fb 8At1KRFd9sMT5PFr5YHHKS9DXjWguKSHd79ccXlqCz9QGVcnV97zCmuItSaJ g0RCbQ1ocqpqCz6HX16xsFUDnQH2DFFSxHhh5y7O9SgFvaO7q2o71t7TGsM_ layO2q1_05Q0mdq1WXi5K14NXICMBWQAdmy2Qbbu6VHHZwDU3fg.GZvQ9tzs pFBmA8H4hyo506w-- Received: from [72.131.84.242] by web140604.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 15:02:58 PDT Rm9yIFJvYWQgQW1lcmljYSB5b3Ugd2lsbCBuZWVkIGEgY2FyIGNlbnRlcmVkIHBlcmlvZGljYWwgdG8gZmF4IG9yIGVtYWlsIFJvYWQgQW1lcmljYSBpbnRyb2R1Y2luZyB5b3UgYXMgYSBtZWRpYSBwZXJzb24gZm9yIHRoZSBwdWJsaWNhdGlvbi4gWW91IHdpbGwgbmVlZCB0byBnbyB0byB0aGUgUm9hZCBBbWVyaWNhIGFkbWluaXN0cmF0aXZlIG9mZmljZSB1cG9uIGFycml2YWwgdG8gb2J0YWluIGNyZWRlbnRpYWxzLCBhIG1lZGlhIHZlc3QgYW5kIGd1aWRlbGluZXMuCgpJZiB5b3UgY2FsbCB0aGUgZ2VuZXIBMAEBAQE- References: <20130725170138.EB9F440400@autox.team.net> <98B972D8-8CDF-47D7-9F0F-7808BDBC8E2C@aol.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 15:02:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Ernest Husmann To: Joe Alexander , "Robert M. Lang" Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Press Pass for Kas Cup? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net For Road America you will need a car centered periodical to fax or email Road America introducing you as a media person for the publication. You will need to go to the Road America administrative office upon arrival to obtain credentials, a media vest and guidelines. If you call the general phone number for Road America they can provide additional details. ________________________________ From: Joe Alexander To: Robert M. Lang Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Press Pass for Kas Cup? We may have just sent an email to Road Atlanta. I have worked in Road America Media Center. Road America has a completely different set of rules than Road Atlanta. Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2013, at 1:55 PM, "Robert M. Lang" wrote: > Ummm - regarding Road Atlanta in 2012, I think Joe A. handled that. Either that or Henry Frye. > > I just showed up and took pictures. > > Going to the Road America web site is def. the right approach. > > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > On Thu, 25 Jul 2013, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley wrote: > >> Last year at the Road Atlanta Kas cup Bob Lang was able to get himself and >> me press credentials as the "official" documenters of the Kas Cup for the >> Friends of Triumph (non) organization. No fee as it was not for resale >> purposes. Hope that can work here also. Bob might weigh in on what he did. >> >> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Jhouathome wrote: >> >>> Hi Tony. I just discussed this last week with RA. Media credentials are >>> handled by RA. If he is working for a magazine etc., they will issue him a >>> media pass. If he is a photographer who will be selling pictures to the >>> likes >>> of us competitors, he will have to register as a vendor and pay RA's normal >>> fee. He should contact RA through their website, www.roadamerica.com for >>> instructions. >>> See you in September! >>> John >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On Jul 25, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Tony Drews wrote: >>> >>>> One of my crew for the Kas Cup race is a photographer for a publishing >>> company. He's interested in obtaining a press pass so he can take better >>> pictures. Does anyone know how one would go about obtaining a press pass? >>>> >>>> Thanks, Tony Drews >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhouathome@aol.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/lang@isis.mit.edu > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ehusmann53@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 25 17:26:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E25A40418 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 17:26:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm24-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A83E403F8 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 17:26:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.155] by nm24.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jul 2013 23:26:34 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.49] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jul 2013 23:26:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp102.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jul 2013 23:26:34 -0000 s=s1024; t=1374794794; bh=CYJUStQO95efEVLDFscUnXfXp/LnnvJ9wCszirBEaj0=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=R1ZUQXHfO5YEGv3AIQZKqn5kd8sQzPRooQcdAPF7RLJBrHGUafZcBKI1eO8TyeImSioq10BUxxYUBwN316m1LQBXHHdVlZ9/mOkA0qZMIgEIMVDUSq5USlkZZIfyuVQppNM5+CO6KZ8QN+Lsd3GvyROGjz8w1OXJhZq5sVC9bJY= kbCDe3FXFGWfjs0Xp4zxaotPPvIU6XkHSbbbO1tuGj.91B8U0NWlVHXZ9cOJ cmkfU..VDdE2g4IfN3MD_.kxZtycwLd5a43GIXPTK58OTukOWnW0.K7MAdc9 3UvIOHbpA4JezqZm.3ua.I1gAPbqE8wAHK_QB7E0NyVHL2R4ODk1o5jEJlwr qpSIyLfN1wPk8Q60.Gx2PYI7SP4Dyjezz_dCRT0Vi6Omxcz9UNZiLA3M47Uu WWYSgipvey0HyC3Oj3FGgfraN9dantvLgwTvWRprKjGcB8sVN4ytAFeNMdJ6 k9qr2lsyuCTlzWgVihiZ5kzj9HfaZMFlroE_GSPA20AUeffaIAdeS2gUyh2I 4SIUO7BjfTqipa2dhtBQLegMqRC36X9m9selzVpi3BprjdoWJJG02Ej1_33u 49WhRzJBk0N9ysIkh_BviR3KXL8ONPPKxdEQ98tPn1rS8ZxMGvjiXbnxits_ sgM1Mf_3RCV1auxT53OG4X4CLd5szOsxJGdiOb98MnvXaXMBr smtp102.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Jul 2013 16:26:34 -0700 PDT From: "Jack Brooks" To: "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <63DE1723-5F28-4E8B-8C2E-F7C7FE340F48@wi.rr.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 16:26:36 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6JQ62uV3Xkk6HaQWubTPNPXRNHOQASlMWQ Subject: Re: [Fot] Group 44 Paint Colors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I don't know what they are, but my son matched them really well on his pinewood derby and it was wicked fast. . . . . -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Allen Washatko Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 7:31 AM To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Group 44 Paint Colors FOT, Does anyone know the exact paint color codes for the two greens on the stripes of the Group 44 cars? Allen Allen & Jody Washatko 1971 TR6 - Number 6 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 25 20:17:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E8D40441 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:17:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B08403FA for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:16:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8223A0779 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:16:50 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:16:50 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Silicone valve cover gaskets? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net As I understand it Justin Wagner is no longer doing gaskets himself. I thought for sure this has been recently discussed, but didn't find anything in the archives. Anyone know where these, the TR6 in particular, are available? Thanks, mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 25 20:24:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A1AE4043F for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:24:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d02.mx.aol.com (omr-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692CD40401 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:22:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.6]) by omr-d02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 09198700AB83F; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 22:22:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id A7D99E0000CD; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 22:22:24 -0400 (EDT) References: <51F1DC12.3080702@bradakis.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 21:22:25 -0500 To: Mark J Bradakis x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1374805344; bh=g32v34h/rzjK45ITvpli82oAgy9Tvvd3NH2nrXL2TqI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=C4VQdylqri9lQbaNzv4GTCUUPaTJ+uapivIgCsLoHttoTnQZfd1r6qA+51T0aPLe3 iWvv/PjtnUDV0cYh/FWuv150PJOVtN6MXNodzE9yMe+kER6gjgTHJ7HlI9vpJ2KuG2 cL/ht+42Y/qsnuzM7aiTWSk+qUSWHoerNNFNwEB8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290651f1dd60144c Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Silicone valve cover gaskets? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net He has put his molds away in storage while he is working on other projects. We are hoping he will return to making them again some day. Brilliant gaskets...he may pop up on the list and verify this. Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2013, at 9:16 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > As I understand it Justin Wagner is no longer doing gaskets himself. I thought > for sure this has been recently discussed, but didn't find anything in the archives. > Anyone know where these, the TR6 in particular, are available? > > Thanks, > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 25 20:25:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960F44042E for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:25:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m03.mx.aol.com (omr-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB8140434 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:24:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.4]) by omr-m03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id AAC87700370AD; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 22:24:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 5F3A0E0000AB; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 22:24:51 -0400 (EDT) References: <51F1DC12.3080702@bradakis.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 21:24:48 -0500 To: Mark J Bradakis x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1374805491; bh=kDusXMdsWjXndJvhfShPlJDWe77ePjtTxEUWFiWW5R4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=yw0KYf9Rl9Dvvyk3GgqqqHdO0FZAGiD3roTkaazJo8mmHuDDKux6pgzYw4A6b9XdL tFeMELORBJKpq+9MYTsfyEKfxik8z6Wjuq13nFKy5hfvzzIA2xSZkMvi4bnEjREYDa zjxsrq/XPtShRbO6Y/hvzdTVOiSZlejK5I5d8LIQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290451f1ddf34b33 Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Silicone valve cover gaskets? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net There is a guy in Iowa making some plain silicon gaskets. Gasket Innovations. I think. Another one is doing some die cut silicon, but not sure where he is at. Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2013, at 9:16 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > As I understand it Justin Wagner is no longer doing gaskets himself. I thought > for sure this has been recently discussed, but didn't find anything in the archives. > Anyone know where these, the TR6 in particular, are available? > > Thanks, > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 25 20:39:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A1240437 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:39:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm22-vm1.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm22-vm1.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.20]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC363403FA for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:39:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.168] by nm22.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jul 2013 02:39:09 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.254] by tm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jul 2013 02:39:09 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1025.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jul 2013 02:39:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 6464 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Jul 2013 02:39:09 -0000 s=s1024; t=1374806349; bh=X8iZoQb4rQR53V8negcGIn20Ti9P4tJMKvqdaQ8dirc=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0xOFdY28fJTJ4FA3iYzAXwpwJ9UZm1cpW+5pxbdcXGuZdX4hv0sbv8HmOMubJlKjFqy0odlYM3DIWpZLjNy1MRErlCky7lsYHXARK6+cyesFFAkzGBpwOPAmqE4+bqHdw8xcq/6bQaVLJFLRtFfe/MR/5DAs5M5Zrik6i653IV8= s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wwExMbeq5DSLZ2NbNsts6HGHnkhnkYcmq/s7Xv00U0gN5aey4Ex/9zn1SBKktSsPBJbwKHjj0Z7Bpg+dUDTVfpUqh9HNK544nlMJYqk3dI5LY94P0D7RpiXBQ1Ke5DB5FqJoo9Kz3TsW5+VKBfXDQPTpWLxzz9tO+f6AyM8R780=; MNRxQXhX2iOIISbmfSuhdWE7V9EMostG9kU5JTWwHPhWNQEpWRQoCP0StNPj FdEBZHIIjPa32DhDXeaOp3jWC4GDAvqnFekAGLZTGsrT4rYml7TVDweqVn8g PceJZs943pnO6us9PmK_urIRVj_L1IhZ4x6A4prBaFG6FzDFl17Kd_eiQi1l nCf6UeJ3MytqN0gsMn4RL63Vln8hCbMVtH7B4SmII9kkE4u9g5QNuqCxWLF7 qJtbXbfXhtgRiZlNtFBnyL21Q8I0K4Qxr3_FlVz6hTAo8p2D4jzAdSr0dPNt 5tFu.v7n0pHzOgSFsvvkooSvHQkSNEEWM_C0kyv06nYET1MIlr9FBrccmOPt fk2ukOpt_URLimpEi7mya4pVgkZIKK_qGLQLE0xAjTyebIPz6DItzUOrTxCs X08xJJwv2vp5WXRoYf1Mu2ak.2qp_TdxlY9Sgy40.hXcHSxe1ddEyk9UO3Fg z16yRooiCr5dEKGNXRRXO42.APaQs_8U5G3f8Wc2H7BHx2bZ03tC8EvJQPBa 7mAWv5B2ht.Vwb5uqL2p0arylzSmDqOGgr76c00p.r1ZZHuVyO4rOV.Zkj3K sz6hR0R0kkqXPs9KAz9aPFd_KIvuEN9PMOESGlnI61sY- Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 19:39:09 PDT Sm9lL01hcmsvbGlzdDoKR2Fza2V0IElubm92YXRpb25zIGlzIHJ1biBieSBTdGV2ZSBEb3duaW5nLiBHcmVhdCBndXkuIEkndmUgYmVlbiBidXlpbmcgYWxsIG15IHNpbGljb25lIGdhc2tldHMgZnJvbSBoaW0gc2luY2UgSnVzdGluIHN0b3BwZWQgYSB3aGlsZSBiYWNrLiBIZSBtYWtlcyBtYW55IG90aGVyIHByb2R1Y3RzIHRvby4gSGUgaXMgb24gRWJheSB3aXRoIHZlcnkgcmVhc29uYWJsZSBwcmljZXMuCi1FZC0KIAoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KIEZyb206IEpvZSBBbGV4YW4BMAEBAQE- References: <51F1DC12.3080702@bradakis.com> <462F8B0F-5BED-4059-A130-D9DEB16F683D@cs.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 19:39:09 -0700 (PDT) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: Joe Alexander , Mark J Bradakis Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Silicone valve cover gaskets? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe/Mark/list: Gasket Innovations is run by Steve Downing. Great guy. I've been buying all my silicone gaskets from him since Justin stopped a while back. He makes many other products too. He is on Ebay with very reasonable prices. -Ed- ________________________________ From: Joe Alexander To: Mark J Bradakis Cc: Friends of Triumph Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Silicone valve cover gaskets? There is a guy in Iowa making some plain silicon gaskets. Gasket Innovations. I think. Another one is doing some die cut silicon, but not sure where he is at. Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2013, at 9:16 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > As I understand it Justin Wagner is no longer doing gaskets himself. I thought > for sure this has been recently discussed, but didn't find anything in the archives. > Anyone know where these, the TR6 in particular, are available? > > Thanks, > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > Donate: > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 25 21:17:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73DC240434 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 21:17:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f181.google.com (mail-ob0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31D0540408 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 21:17:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f181.google.com with SMTP id dn14so2951780obc.26 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:17:07 -0700 (PDT) h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=eb7WMFfvVJeUMr2P4yAEYuBClzu9lRShh8PBYHGP/Dg=; b=vY6ofzbO7KVkY/cnKDYsidFDRNS26lkgu5ro1TK4ftAQj77/aDeI/X083t6rHaiMvJ NVaoOV3ZvwEstATJ5c9ozCXMDcuRfkOo/hTTevWqcwukWac336rf/CjTuTvINnjRe7VU efYR3vvlR6k15YQodR+dIfaRQjISEUzOATzhGOFQCINprY2LODDozRtxrCqa1864m3M3 F883zVXzxd0tfggJlQfkbSTB/vJQleIiXbVb9NATALTqMaxh7sTt4+i+AxWd3pOMVqSZ Wj4NNCj2OZ9LTO90+39DV/su+pvnbf/lHLdthmkbfZp+tIebPIEvGly8quKII3IN2T/y Xtqw== r6mr39139798obu.64.1374808627127; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:17:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.5] (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id h9sm4350807obi.10.2013.07.25.20.17.05 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:17:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 22:17:04 -0500 References: <51F1DC12.3080702@bradakis.com> <462F8B0F-5BED-4059-A130-D9DEB16F683D@cs.com> <1374806349.91864.YahooMailNeo@web181402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: EDWARD BARNARD Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Silicone valve cover gaskets? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The TR engine in my car had the orangish-brown silicone gasket on it when I received it. This was impossible to get back into position on the valve cover after the first valve adjustment. I'm not sure who made it, but it swelled badly so I made my own from a sheet of rubberized cork. Hopefully Gasket Innovation's gasket is not like this one was. I glued the rubberized cork gasket to the stock valve cover using contact cement and used no sealant between the gasket and the head, and have no problems to report with it this way. Duncan Texas 1952 Morgan Plus 4 Red #6 On Jul 25, 2013, at 9:39 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Joe/Mark/list: > Gasket Innovations is run by Steve Downing. Great guy. I've > been buying all my silicone gaskets from him since Justin stopped a while > back. He makes many other products too. He is on Ebay with very reasonable > prices. > -Ed- > > > ________________________________ > From: Joe Alexander > > To: Mark J Bradakis > Cc: Friends of > Triumph > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 9:24 PM > Subject: > Re: [Fot] Silicone valve cover gaskets? > > > There is a guy in Iowa making some > plain silicon gaskets. > > Gasket Innovations. I think. > > Another one is doing > some die cut silicon, but not sure where he is at. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jul > 25, 2013, at 9:16 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > >> As I > understand it Justin Wagner is no longer doing gaskets himself. I > thought >> > for sure this has been recently discussed, but didn't find anything in the > archives. >> Anyone know where these, the TR6 in particular, are available? >> >> > Thanks, >> mjb. >> _______________________________________________ >> > fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com/ >> >> Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 25 22:28:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DECC40437 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 22:28:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A27BF403FA for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 22:21:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1562A0779 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 22:21:55 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 22:21:54 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: Friends of Triumph References: <51F1DC12.3080702@bradakis.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Silicone valve cover gaskets? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for the info. I knew the info was out there, I just couldn't find it quickly. As usual, Team.Net provides the answer. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 25 23:05:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE474044A for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 23:05:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp1.pacifier.net (smtp1.pacifier.net [64.255.237.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3E5400A4 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 23:05:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.2.101] (static-72-67-118-198.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [72.67.118.198]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp1.pacifier.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22BDC2CA2C; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 22:04:59 -0700 (PDT) References: <51F1DC12.3080702@bradakis.com> <06DC43CE-39E9-4176-AECF-7A2E4EC9CC61@cs.com> From: "J. Wagner" Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 22:04:58 -0700 To: Joe Alexander Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Silicone valve cover gaskets? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net yes, sorry folks, continuing with the gaskets would have been the straw that broke this camel's back. I do think I'll make a comeback, if even for a small run, but not in 2013. AMICI and Joe would be the first to know. --Justin Wagner On Jul 25, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > He has put his molds away in storage while he is working on other projects. > > We are hoping he will return to making them again some day. > > Brilliant gaskets...he may pop up on the list and verify this. > > Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 26 04:10:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8914040C for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 04:10:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s21.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s21.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ACFF403D3 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 04:10:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU404-EAS245 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s21.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 26 Jul 2013 03:10:09 -0700 References: <63DE1723-5F28-4E8B-8C2E-F7C7FE340F48@wi.rr.com> <27FAF35A1FCF4BDCAB95329FBDF51527@EntCentPC> From: Sam Halkias Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 21:26:52 -0400 To: Jack Brooks FILETIME=[4F3A1E70:01CE89E8] Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Group 44 Paint Colors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The light green is "John Deere Green" on Polar MGB white. Not sure what the darker green is but I just went with a darker green that looked good. On Jul 25, 2013, at 7:26 PM, "Jack Brooks" wrote: > I don't know what they are, but my son matched them really well on his > pinewood derby and it was wicked fast. . . . . > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Allen Washatko > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 7:31 AM > To: Friends of Triumph > Subject: [Fot] Group 44 Paint Colors > > FOT, > > Does anyone know the exact paint color codes for the two greens on the > stripes of the Group 44 cars? > > Allen > > > Allen & Jody Washatko > 1971 TR6 - Number 6 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jibjib@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/atr6racer@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 26 08:56:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB84403FA for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 08:56:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5373A40431 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 08:56:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 51v81m00416AWCUA12w22Z; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 14:56:02 +0000 Received: from WalterPC ([68.35.39.236]) by omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 52w11m00G55iYBo8S2w1zk; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 14:56:02 +0000 From: "Walter Hollowell" To: Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 08:56:03 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac6KEAbK0+gQqTltRj2eEDom/OM0fw== Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1374850562; bh=e0+40AmYGNuUu4pBLPABUNKJi99kfW7j5R2kNOLWnYQ=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=bBCY4xcCeDXmfEkDJYSFELEyfDOTiA9M71+D7eW7pg0I7HOSlWoQ0sKjE9sYVOQyX ZO/JksQ8isVeeqf2/ASDiO/gglKyegRY887CbnI9pAeljlRr0lLO6OHzWiNnw+q8zJ z8VkHjWvSlEAf/MSsAWiYRlTT3n4uPtMx+YnnGcfGQvAe7vXzgoh3lsIHwsbYOtvDK 30RfjqXKIopZxnu8XMAZKokHed4lxsysRlCWFANQl7luYbpPHAHfXq0m2h4ZTkKxuf rwytgjri01SJsb9MsnPOK9x7cRAxLvDhtUMWiYzfko4chLE9ZglQ37VW2LnbrlEAeB +GLhUR2F3/U5A== Subject: [Fot] TR6 part needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Does any FOT member have a plinth bar assembly in decent shape I can purchase to complete a TR6 restoration I am working on? Please contact me directly. Thanks, Walt Hollowell Albuquerque, NM _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 26 20:35:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DEAD40410 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 20:35:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7039240409 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 20:35:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from new-host.home (pool-108-16-249-182.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [108.16.249.182]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MQK00KCFPUFJS70@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 02:35:06 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-07-27_01:2013-07-26,2013-07-27,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1305010000 definitions=main-1307260248 From: Scott Janzen Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 22:35:02 -0400 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Clutch Failure in GT6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I ran the Schenley Park GP in Pittsburgh this past weekend - a fantastic event, racing on city streets- I'll be back. It is, however, hard on the car, and once again I've found the weak link. The clutch disc center basically ripped out - the metal around only one of three rivets was still intact. So, it's a stock disc and pressure plate, never given trouble before, probably on its 3rd-4th season. Should I just replace it, or is there an easily adaptable upgrade that's stronger? It's an 8-1/2" disc, 23 spline - the car has a TR4-6 gearbox in it (the GT6 box was the old weak link) and a good aluminum flywheel I got from Ted that I'd hate to give up on. What is being used out there - given that I have a TR4-6 box with the cross-shaft/fork arrangement, I'm guessing whatever you TR4 racers have done might work too. Scott _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 26 23:32:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D6F40411 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 23:32:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm15-vm7.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm15-vm7.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.193]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E8C440409 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 23:32:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.172] by nm15.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jul 2013 05:32:26 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.244] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jul 2013 05:32:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp115.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jul 2013 05:32:26 -0000 sAHLljDk02jh42y150IwOj.Whg_syqH2FWXUwUkPU.mAaTkIL5NxSQlAtb9w 64DKT85Cj2F4dAlUUcwpGs_pc34yt1Mh2k2XfOKOID3tjquCjBYsWajL6kb7 WbhmYZ6Iq939qu2eQnXcfMQpud26vb3gBMqIiiMDVqhz.cL3mJxADa1u7_rl 5f.Igv0WZURBEeJF_MEgliSkO2e6FO84ZgW1dBSSEdCtSgpBizym5qLEr_aT FM_KE_5uF8CrCakHPzLRls37VOYaswNDmsDcHB0jZVgJSD36mEAwBUL2zLFO xsUwNJl4RF5Qitc_47fLsDTE_y4_WcSajv1vCt5DdGjZSzLhzS9XQyIZc.49 GfEKY58uEBtu.4GCozkDjCthYmxlkScpGuHCJ1ZywysLne1eqVxS6vLjcvO4 yJxhV2oB0wyQ1KTigDccFKU1V4w5AwU8oYKrarNaB5Ka2FKfhFSOoglwSxWv 2skAP4Old5a_hiRY2ZG0YuozcJBHFuxXL1Pkm9JHtEJVI9lAoj2KxWfSD78j 6aQ2ZoFhQKFC5vCvNKbdeo6KBH8hFdgZVNvDn smtp115.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Jul 2013 22:32:26 -0700 PDT From: "Rocky Entriken" To: "Scott Janzen" , "'Friends of Triumph' Triumph" References: <170321A8-7937-4B0E-8C10-B9F4B8EC3697@me.com> Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 00:33:08 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch Failure in GT6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I ripped out the centers of 3 or 4 stock clutch discs in my Spitfire before someone pointed me to the "competition" disk with a solid center. I'd imagine there's one for the GT6 too. Got mine from West Michigan Imports (Duane Bailey, a Spitfire racer) -- 616-878-5774 or dbailey_wmi@yahoo.com (Since then I've gone to a Quartermaster clutch setup.) --Rocky Entriken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Janzen" To: "'Friends of Triumph' Triumph" Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 9:35 PM Subject: [Fot] Clutch Failure in GT6 >I ran the Schenley Park GP in Pittsburgh this past weekend - a fantastic > event, racing on city streets- I'll be back. > It is, however, hard on the car, and once again I've found the weak link. > The clutch disc center basically ripped out - the metal around only one of > three rivets was still intact. > So, it's a stock disc and pressure plate, never given trouble before, > probably > on its 3rd-4th season. Should I just replace it, or is there an easily > adaptable upgrade that's stronger? > > It's an 8-1/2" disc, 23 spline - the car has a TR4-6 gearbox in it (the > GT6 > box was the old weak link) and a good aluminum flywheel I got from Ted > that > I'd hate to give up on. > > What is being used out there - given that I have a TR4-6 box with the > cross-shaft/fork arrangement, I'm guessing whatever you TR4 racers have > done > might work too. > > Scott > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rocky@spitfire4.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 27 04:51:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C4224040D for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 04:51:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 342C1403F5 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 04:50:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.28.17]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MQL00BCWCR9N640@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 05:49:58 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Scott Janzen" , "'Friends of Triumph' Triumph" References: <170321A8-7937-4B0E-8C10-B9F4B8EC3697@me.com> Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 06:49:55 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch Failure in GT6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Scott, I had Ted have a HD disc made for me a couple years ago by his supplier: it worked well. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Janzen" To: "'Friends of Triumph' Triumph" Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 10:35 PM Subject: [Fot] Clutch Failure in GT6 >I ran the Schenley Park GP in Pittsburgh this past weekend - a fantastic > event, racing on city streets- I'll be back. > It is, however, hard on the car, and once again I've found the weak link. > The clutch disc center basically ripped out - the metal around only one of > three rivets was still intact. > So, it's a stock disc and pressure plate, never given trouble before, > probably > on its 3rd-4th season. Should I just replace it, or is there an easily > adaptable upgrade that's stronger? > > It's an 8-1/2" disc, 23 spline - the car has a TR4-6 gearbox in it (the > GT6 > box was the old weak link) and a good aluminum flywheel I got from Ted > that > I'd hate to give up on. > > What is being used out there - given that I have a TR4-6 box with the > cross-shaft/fork arrangement, I'm guessing whatever you TR4 racers have > done > might work too. > > Scott > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 27 06:42:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E7F4041C for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 06:42:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm12-vm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm12-vm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.218.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863AD403ED for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 06:42:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.137.12.56] by nm12.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jul 2013 12:42:40 -0000 Received: from [98.136.164.73] by tm1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jul 2013 12:42:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp235.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jul 2013 12:42:40 -0000 s=s1024; t=1374928960; bh=nfQR2VrIdrvwZpsAbAMDHKCJvkGtGZV6radxVCmr5W4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=6JE8TadJghP4h4PNJTq7UuEXBMoLYLnTmO4RbUDPW8VQfBU70923RQC+RIjW/wiSgaRW9ldpjmNS55yZV/YtR0o/yIDNRxDz4jkXdr6jOeraMESv5x7cQsJVOGXTgOPwwQGRFmRfcpJRhYw0zGde7TiA54je9s8fvTky/qyEs8c= s8At4a0qMC5V3a6MNHdJdxJSJt6QAM_8vTZXnpdtcYp7LJtASh5HtgxF2.Bw tHycvLnOxAgtuXSPkZZk0Znn8LmkTcVKjt6FcpFb1x7KLyxqxunXN_mqpmdQ 981pD0Cb10.0XZ6PIVsH7YXJ7FaR5p0RkUN.dqHSCf.khszQvatmUd90_DgD e0GqutHx2tImYzYB4TXy3LO5jOmuLxoX4lrEF6PiwwrtdvsdhhEkILohxm3L nFFiBsU0giZb_fQs.2X1CKhZy3R_VHvL2uEsAdBQJ1Hbv7YwFzpqZPpwjkSt nuJwdJ5f8nmUfgnUldFgDrL8XgFNSCKvymkzcLC1hzsryfAqDI6RgM0m9Gri _D_K5kDh8uMLRkgldzPs8f3oJ0mKUDaDiJPBq3WYQUPObGza.Fj6icK1iFhw F7_weN2ILEpNANuWW67K3yy.IHNcXg0wGbi1LK7NHLgMfylrAkGA_0LztEIO JAHycVuqDWucaJxQfhm72lqw- smtp235.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 2013 12:42:40 +0000 UTC References: <170321A8-7937-4B0E-8C10-B9F4B8EC3697@me.com> From: Mike Munson Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 07:42:38 -0500 To: Scott Janzen Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch Failure in GT6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net After many years of tearing up stock type clutches I changed over to a Tilton dual disc setup. It was expensive up front but WAY cheaper in the long run. I think Sam Halkias may have a better setup on all is his TR6s. Mike #28 EP TR6 Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 27 14:10:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472E740425 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 14:10:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (fed1rmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC394040D for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 14:10:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo305 ([68.230.241.173]) by fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130727201007.ITXH3896.fed1rmfepo102.cox.net@fed1rmimpo305> for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 16:10:07 -0400 Received: from Vista ([68.99.82.107]) by fed1rmimpo305 with cox id 5YA71m0062Jvvxw01YA7Q4; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 16:10:07 -0400 a=BrgYjPiL4d2cFgrlBXpIzQ==:17 a=n6-qPvSeV2EA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=xxHfSI3QJhsA:10 a=b4KrJKo_AAAA:8 a=QYuoKJNs5d5gbkt4AwEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=79KeSRof70cA:10 a=OY-JzdhgUPoA:10 a=Mt_7rvTkYfoA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=ENMv29sHP7a5AwulB2sA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=6lqq4wtt9cQxESRc:21 a=BrgYjPiL4d2cFgrlBXpIzQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 13:10:30 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6LBVfMbwDeuyrVQoe8Tupb9AIonA== Subject: [Fot] Los Angeles Craig's List Spitfire engine Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/pts/3963356925.html There is a guy in LA building an electric Spit and wants help removing the FE series engine (late Mk3 small bearing 1296). He will literally give you the engine for help removing it according to the ad. Joe _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 27 14:55:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B30540441 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 14:55:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f180.google.com (mail-ea0-f180.google.com [209.85.215.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A32CA40411 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 14:55:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f180.google.com with SMTP id r16so2228808ead.11 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 13:55:33 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=Iu6Dr+xzXPo/faOPEcaNbY7hSlZ5WaapjdWhslgWGJg=; b=IMEY9BtO4Dp1MD1mOpnebTLkNXvF7y8CX7c5laejxL+sndBupCgw5ZAwYG2R4idAmy A7R1kmXwljLrJ/A3WPXkpoYko06E7CWWM+PDZWo5JxYNFJ6CkP9PaDVi7OcTdWkjS7UE RDXKk/YtVesqg1eWvfmWPM/Q4g7sPPQyYSRQwQr2SxC8gt3klXdQrgGm+Q+0xOoEPRx7 IseBGHwxcxSlUyrcBbIl9iiX6ZmJ15FY74zgFOAyyiZQsyzWMvVFdR6jASHv9lltOX2K idt7m3B12ESXp9Xyo0wzA7oPhhA8rwNVkVLgYw6UBjuYZgTlLSnLJhGtkf5h80iXtvrH 8iXA== m5mr53069643een.109.1374958533777; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 13:55:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.171.112.237]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id l42sm90299973eeo.14.2013.07.27.13.55.31 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 27 Jul 2013 13:55:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Mike Munson'" , "'Scott Janzen'" References: <170321A8-7937-4B0E-8C10-B9F4B8EC3697@me.com> Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 22:55:29 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6KxsyI73rwHL6yRZ2A9sN+MHMSeAARL5RA Content-Language: de Cc: ''Friends of Triumph' Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch Failure in GT6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I might have already said it but I run a Tilton single disc setup. Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Mike Munson Gesendet: Samstag, 27. Juli 2013 14:43 An: Scott Janzen Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Betreff: Re: [Fot] Clutch Failure in GT6 After many years of tearing up stock type clutches I changed over to a Tilton dual disc setup. It was expensive up front but WAY cheaper in the long run. I think Sam Halkias may have a better setup on all is his TR6s. Mike #28 EP TR6 Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 27 15:07:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB714044A for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 15:07:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qe0-f50.google.com (mail-qe0-f50.google.com [209.85.128.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A1E40411 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 15:02:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qe0-f50.google.com with SMTP id q19so760936qeb.9 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 14:01:58 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=Juzq5wD2FdOWl8Wi9yuMVesAeENOJvMcSDigZj8qewY=; b=ODki+twuuzNY6PvtDD2HBXgKQq+qW0KnWUJwlSKYDpLek3wfrsneSbL5FSUboFG4Is khEXMkJsL/pgNFGxXad/kv6ISQU1IU9xbaRcQYOiiXWZSzn0ORB8O6YzF8j6Lq9AjD6q 1OBP87kzX+oPvhGgqz3PCje4Yornfyc6Saq/L2vcR0MTtEf41++qIoNmAJCO8dqfFxkS Jxt3tuaHFTRU+iAnaPrGqoVk7RVVpDFXzSLYaHQ9ajK6/9pO9W/uLcv/m4SqgObi9bbA iKXbmmyMP5XyUkYuaA0LW42it9q5qoJF/lwQXoo0QctsYgI0qkReItG+3+/Z4R5YIGuF r8+Q== w7mr11170528qal.106.1374958918041; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 14:01:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.128.65 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 14:01:17 -0700 (PDT) References: From: Kas Kastner Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 14:01:17 -0700 To: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Los Angeles Craig's List Spitfire engine Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Watch out you are not hurt in the stampede. *Never be beaten by equipment.* On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Joe Curry wrote: > http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/pts/3963356925.html > > > > There is a guy in LA building an electric Spit and wants help removing the > FE series engine (late Mk3 small bearing 1296). He will literally give you > the engine for help removing it according to the ad. > > > > Joe > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 27 19:09:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5450840454 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:09:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm8-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm8-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C117F40421 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:04:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.144] by nm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jul 2013 01:04:54 -0000 Received: from [68.142.230.65] by tm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jul 2013 01:04:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp222.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jul 2013 01:04:54 -0000 s=s1024; t=1374973494; bh=QCphk+S84qVVBtl7YMYzOTfzE6alvzrRii1wgayGn0Y=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Date:Subject:Message-ID:From:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=4/0XobXyIyvZ8KhiB+2h6woHqAlnSI8kdKFJevnGzcWNrl6VOaoB86KQmHUlp8eE9UPraNfe33vvrlxPtiLkZg5K4hdC1PitNx0P0MZCp05dC8j43Xr0L6R3+PdC8TZJHt1Lf/yNtpzauBf0RN/lLqL08O05jOBvJWjCFcf1h1Q= yMh79I1t2xQaYcvivgZzc4GVutoyGyBx0pN3BnYRmJEe9CMX9M1zYhSpcRMj ifx9lrCHd6KKXLWZ0gx7SuCZFE5QAS1zU1CPpWpvwAl6k1Y0leThmFBuzb1p DTfz9i7BAzmFkKdeAnI9JlLTCR19SgZT_yZjD2sudskVU3O8t48Lz4s.K9bK nm6T2R29EsOX7Qd2ECm.WaDWXeBvO.N1N56S059Kt8ckl7vqlxZ04p.wYYQh B4_3tdwnLcb2GpJ7PMJGPuZfgrIrW4IY28fCSL7fKkjbl4tq8Oez7A0bxEff cnpOTkDbvWmcNJevSqgglMxwIMp8R9TK_0YLXEckr9c9HMehIQyV3eMSy5qe dd6YEJxFjsA4cr5TIqxaNTg042seXDEzDrHzrYu5bpMEvUhAlEznYmPCEwd6 1jOfX4tjDYEbPaWEFaalWQN_tMxoetKCe_.2NURwNvhdipJKU4UwViNs4YVd L2_f3K5aK1QCFAeFR09G7R96T86VSTRKjEyIrQrZDPfc- smtp222.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 2013 01:04:54 +0000 UTC Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:04:55 -0400 From: Doug Mitchell To: Fot Cc: robertdalziel@comcast.net Subject: [Fot] Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici, I'd like to nominate Scottie Dalziel. He runs a GTL Spitfire in SCCA, as well as a street TR3 and several other pieces of finest British iron. His email is robertdalziel@comcast.net. Regards, Doug -- Doug Mitchell dmitchel@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 27 19:58:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5717640519 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:58:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6097440421 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:57:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.71] (ool-43538a8f.dyn.optonline.net [67.83.138.143]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0MQM001F5ISKO500@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:57:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:57:54 -0400 From: Todd Redmond To: Doug Mitchell References: Cc: Fot , "robertdalziel@comcast.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Second. Welcome Scottie! Sent from my iPhone On Jul 27, 2013, at 9:04 PM, Doug Mitchell wrote: > Amici, > > I'd like to nominate Scottie Dalziel. He runs a GTL Spitfire in SCCA, as well as a street TR3 and several other pieces of finest British iron. > > His email is robertdalziel@comcast.net. > > Regards, > > Doug > -- > Doug Mitchell > dmitchel@sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 28 08:49:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F8EA4043C for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:49:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta41.charter.net (mta41.charter.net [216.33.127.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38ABC403D7 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:49:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130728144912.VSQQ10143.mta41.charter.net@imp10>; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 10:49:12 -0400 Received: from wt05 ([209.225.8.45]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id 5qpC1m0030yHwtd05qpCGD; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 10:49:12 -0400 a=9okyDgZqp55Pkq91s0rumA==:17 a=GcBDC4MYXWAA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=CZRG58j9FUsA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=jwrcH3fZtToA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=NTw_7IS5uTgRbnDbxtAA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=791LmTZUnaEA:10 a=waLcg52ezjEA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=9okyDgZqp55Pkq91s0rumA==:117 Received: from [71.10.64.126] by enhanced.charter.net with HTTP; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 10:49:12 -0400 Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 10:49:12 -0400 (EDT) From: jkhagen@charter.net To: Scott Janzen User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch Failure in GT6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We have found a one person shop in North Branch Mn--"The Clutch Doctor"--he can build most anything. We us a"One Piece" disc--no rivets-no 'Marcel" with ceramic buttons. Don't need "Marcel" in the fins for smooth takoffs--ie street. Ceramic buttons run cooler and can take more oil. Must use steel insert if using aluminum flywheel. Sprung center section is advised for road racing--ie not solid disc. I used to build my our clutches when I worked for a clutch manufacturer. We built 100M units per year. I used to give clinics on clutches---sooo Questions 763-684-1617. John Hagen TR-4 - TVR Grantura Clutch Doctors' name is Trevor @ 651-674-4175 On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Scott Janzen wrote: > I ran the Schenley Park GP in Pittsburgh this past weekend - a > fantastic > event, racing on city streets- I'll be back. > It is, however, hard on the car, and once again I've found the weak > link. > The clutch disc center basically ripped out - the metal around only > one of > three rivets was still intact. > So, it's a stock disc and pressure plate, never given trouble before, > probably > on its 3rd-4th season. Should I just replace it, or is there an > easily > adaptable upgrade that's stronger? > > It's an 8-1/2" disc, 23 spline - the car has a TR4-6 gearbox in it > (the GT6 > box was the old weak link) and a good aluminum flywheel I got from Ted > that > I'd hate to give up on. > > What is being used out there - given that I have a TR4-6 box with the > cross-shaft/fork arrangement, I'm guessing whatever you TR4 racers > have done > might work too. > > Scott > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 28 09:05:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B128240512 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 09:05:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d06.mx.aol.com (omr-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C211A40359 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 09:05:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.3]) by omr-d06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9322B7000008F; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 11:05:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 11E95E000202; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 11:05:45 -0400 (EDT) References: <60619cb7.a246fb.14025c12f2e.Webtop.45@charter.net> From: Joe Alexander Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 10:05:44 -0500 To: "jkhagen@charter.net" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375023946; bh=5TBubu1oC1hCkMRnUCX/abKOsbAc5riYMO84mNiqu2U=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=c5+PRsCrWIu8ol2ufsZn3LsBLMB9/zNrTGUn2HpsIZMegu2ptZqbdIW6bsLHyNaVs CrmfKHw8Oyi8ivVU+9Bi7XVcwhTIhR9BJbwQLDxKfO75FnZAkHEe4LPKnNVAP+wWXx 0R+suRa9QqtLeaq6IoX+5i5pDu5uhd9itFgcpgZo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290351f533497f3c Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch Failure in GT6. Now The Clutch Doctor. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Clutch Doctor is where we went. ! Extremely impressed with the design, construction, features, and performance of the Clutch Doctor clutch. Price is right as well. Thanks to John and Russ....... I didn't realize what an expert John Hagen is on clutches. I guess that would be a further endorsement. I think there is a picture of the unit is around somewhere....perhaps Sean has it. Sent from my iPad On Jul 28, 2013, at 9:49 AM, jkhagen@charter.net wrote: > We have found a one person shop in North Branch Mn--"The Clutch Doctor"--he can build most anything. We us a"One Piece" disc--no rivets-no 'Marcel" with ceramic buttons. Don't need "Marcel" in the fins for smooth takoffs--ie street. Ceramic buttons run cooler and can take more oil. Must use steel insert if using aluminum flywheel. Sprung center section is advised for road racing--ie not solid disc. > I used to build my our clutches when I worked for a clutch manufacturer. We built 100M units per year. I used to give clinics on clutches---sooo Questions 763-684-1617. John Hagen TR-4 - TVR Grantura > Clutch Doctors' name is Trevor @ 651-674-4175 > > On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Scott Janzen wrote: > >> I ran the Schenley Park GP in Pittsburgh this past weekend - a fantastic >> event, racing on city streets- I'll be back. >> It is, however, hard on the car, and once again I've found the weak link. >> The clutch disc center basically ripped out - the metal around only one of >> three rivets was still intact. >> So, it's a stock disc and pressure plate, never given trouble before, probably >> on its 3rd-4th season. Should I just replace it, or is there an easily >> adaptable upgrade that's stronger? >> >> It's an 8-1/2" disc, 23 spline - the car has a TR4-6 gearbox in it (the GT6 >> box was the old weak link) and a good aluminum flywheel I got from Ted that >> I'd hate to give up on. >> >> What is being used out there - given that I have a TR4-6 box with the >> cross-shaft/fork arrangement, I'm guessing whatever you TR4 racers have done >> might work too. >> >> Scott >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen@charter.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 28 09:18:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C6D4044E for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 09:18:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d06.mx.aol.com (omr-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19397403D7 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 09:17:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.130]) by omr-d06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 2A5D870000090 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 11:17:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id DCC51E0000B1 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 11:17:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 10:17:40 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375024663; bh=80NSGe92TUchPv/MOYKvedSJrvwynAv250R2e9e8m6w=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=logdHE61o/9QQLduFnJtQN4a5lc7SBl9S4xN2pSd2U/8EMkv2QlgRzbjX35IYhQpT 7BDefGbP2DEJeCCds7henrqNYimDaXCKg6DR83IIq6xUoJ6Ur6ZP1T2lBEOEraFuak uB+m2OuFUbiDo1ew1vyTytcpJ3mx/iJXxjhI3t2E= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338251f5361664a7 Subject: [Fot] Lifetime Rear Mount for Triumph TR3, TR4, early TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We have more of these Heavy Duty rear mounts available if there is any interest. They are very impressive and going into some very interesting cars. Profit? Naw! It will likely take a couple years to recover development and tooling costs. It's what we do. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 28 10:31:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768ED40514 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 10:31:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (unknown [76.96.62.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C2940512 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 10:30:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta17.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.89]) by qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 5s6D1m0041vXlb857sW5UX; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 16:30:05 +0000 Received: from sz0005.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.138]) by omta17.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 5sW51m00H2ymm843dsW5y4; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 16:30:05 +0000 Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 16:30:05 +0000 (UTC) From: 19to1tr6@comcast.net To: "team, FOT" s=q20121106; t=1375029005; bh=2a8v2wzJemlugxSwpX2cKjg9YFb6ygYd+ROQA9lsOS0=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=X1PqPanMeYqIjzbfn6AwUSl6utscGuN7hvbg90Z9RnOvauO2HXGRNxqppGl3ErINS +igd6RX/d7OB3ic0epBhF4GixqdxHkVs/2pzDktjAnF+q/Hq4OCAKzCx8eo9aklyee iL2byZHBXpim1jfZKqESui4GB1/2QE2mH3Wd8Tj9UnxoTkTpM3/LFbfXFGjSjfC4Jw o7DY+TI71DEwAU165hguqYe0cbI/a19SD+KP1ULSJ9VMJxAepcynUyNk6Hl1on3QT9 hNELVyomJEk5wONsxN+z7DZtvpVjqUX0/5YaFpj6Tbgd9QSycZRv13DRSrl++iJn1l sIQyK4knyHIBg== Subject: [Fot] A type O.D. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello can anyone tell me the function of the non return valve on the A type And if the strength of the spring is changed what would be the resultB B thanksB rob _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 28 10:50:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF314051C for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 10:50:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail176c2.megamailservers.com (mail176c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27BF8403D7 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 10:50:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.236.8.68] (245.sub-174-237-35.myvzw.com [174.237.35.245]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail176c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r6SGo9A0014180 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 28 Jul 2013 12:50:12 -0400 References: <60619cb7.a246fb.14025c12f2e.Webtop.45@charter.net> From: John Hasty Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 12:50:07 -0400 To: "jkhagen@charter.net" a=CZRG58j9FUsA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=/OVrlmhq//2RpgypEVCpDA==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=ojoVgRTdCapdxNXOxL0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=791LmTZUnaEA:10 a=waLcg52ezjEA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=/OVrlmhq//2RpgypEVCpDA==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch Failure in GT6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Same advice the engineer @ SPEC gave me. Sprung center for RR. We have used their stage 3 unit for almost three yrs. no problems. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 28, 2013, at 10:49 AM, jkhagen@charter.net wrote: > We have found a one person shop in North Branch Mn--"The Clutch Doctor"--he can build most anything. We us a"One Piece" disc--no rivets-no 'Marcel" with ceramic buttons. Don't need "Marcel" in the fins for smooth takoffs--ie street. Ceramic buttons run cooler and can take more oil. Must use steel insert if using aluminum flywheel. Sprung center section is advised for road racing--ie not solid disc. > I used to build my our clutches when I worked for a clutch manufacturer. We built 100M units per year. I used to give clinics on clutches---sooo Questions 763-684-1617. John Hagen TR-4 - TVR Grantura > Clutch Doctors' name is Trevor @ 651-674-4175 > > On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Scott Janzen wrote: > >> I ran the Schenley Park GP in Pittsburgh this past weekend - a fantastic >> event, racing on city streets- I'll be back. >> It is, however, hard on the car, and once again I've found the weak link. >> The clutch disc center basically ripped out - the metal around only one of >> three rivets was still intact. >> So, it's a stock disc and pressure plate, never given trouble before, probably >> on its 3rd-4th season. Should I just replace it, or is there an easily >> adaptable upgrade that's stronger? >> >> It's an 8-1/2" disc, 23 spline - the car has a TR4-6 gearbox in it (the GT6 >> box was the old weak link) and a good aluminum flywheel I got from Ted that >> I'd hate to give up on. >> >> What is being used out there - given that I have a TR4-6 box with the >> cross-shaft/fork arrangement, I'm guessing whatever you TR4 racers have done >> might work too. >> >> Scott >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen@charter.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 28 11:09:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A5040535 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 11:09:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE20400FF for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 11:09:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.140.68.12] (mobile-166-137-080-027.mycingular.net [166.137.80.27]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MQN008ICOZT6G50@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 17:09:32 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-07-28_06:2013-07-26,2013-07-28,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1305010000 definitions=main-1307280091 References: <60619cb7.a246fb.14025c12f2e.Webtop.45@charter.net> From: SCOTT JANZEN Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 13:09:28 -0400 To: "jkhagen@charter.net" Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Clutch Failure in GT6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Great advice - I was hoping there was an alternative to a solid center clutch. The close ratio gear set yields a really tall first gear, and a little give (i.e., sprung disc) would seem to be easier on the drivetrain overall. Sent from my mobile device On Jul 28, 2013, at 10:49 AM, jkhagen@charter.net wrote: > We have found a one person shop in North Branch Mn--"The Clutch Doctor"--he can build most anything. We us a"One Piece" disc--no rivets-no 'Marcel" with ceramic buttons. Don't need "Marcel" in the fins for smooth takoffs--ie street. Ceramic buttons run cooler and can take more oil. Must use steel insert if using aluminum flywheel. Sprung center section is advised for road racing--ie not solid disc. > I used to build my our clutches when I worked for a clutch manufacturer. We built 100M units per year. I used to give clinics on clutches---sooo Questions 763-684-1617. John Hagen TR-4 - TVR Grantura > Clutch Doctors' name is Trevor @ 651-674-4175 > > On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Scott Janzen wrote: > >> I ran the Schenley Park GP in Pittsburgh this past weekend - a fantastic >> event, racing on city streets- I'll be back. >> It is, however, hard on the car, and once again I've found the weak link. >> The clutch disc center basically ripped out - the metal around only one of >> three rivets was still intact. >> So, it's a stock disc and pressure plate, never given trouble before, probably >> on its 3rd-4th season. Should I just replace it, or is there an easily >> adaptable upgrade that's stronger? >> >> It's an 8-1/2" disc, 23 spline - the car has a TR4-6 gearbox in it (the GT6 >> box was the old weak link) and a good aluminum flywheel I got from Ted that >> I'd hate to give up on. >> >> What is being used out there - given that I have a TR4-6 box with the >> cross-shaft/fork arrangement, I'm guessing whatever you TR4 racers have done >> might work too. >> >> Scott >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 28 13:34:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB24740527 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 13:34:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (unknown [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F8B40422 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 13:34:09 -0600 (MDT) a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:17 a=a1-zNaUMPu0A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=qZqGDTaqHSsA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=pp8HEeKmnoqqLLGumoQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:117 Received: from [75.86.207.181] ([75.86.207.181:58715] helo=HPLaptop) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id F4/C6-07055-C1275F15; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:33:48 +0000 From: "Steve Yott" To: <19to1tr6@comcast.net>, "'team, FOT'" References: <1654766324.1349413.1375028985556.JavaMail.root@sz0005a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1843281187.1349421.1375029005503.JavaMail.root@sz0005a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 14:33:44 -0500 Thread-Index: AQHfG3Z+W9ujW4vjCXnm+EXCWk6At5lZWYbg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] A type O.D. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The A-Type non return valve operates as a check valve for the oil pump. If the valve is leaking or not closing etc. you will not be able to develop full operating pressure which should be in 450 to 550 lbs. area. It really would not provide any advantage to make the spring stiffer as it only holds the ball valve in position as the pump pressure pushes it open. If you are looking for an increase in operating pressure the only means is to use stiffer accumulator springs or shim the current spring. Be very careful with the second option as I have seen many broken overdrives created by someone thinking that more spacer means more pressure and that is good!!! Wrong, it can be very bad if there is too much spacer installed and the accumulator springs goes into coil bind during operation without exposing the relief ports. This can create extreme pressures to the point where parts break! Steve Yott -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of 19to1tr6@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 11:30 AM To: team, FOT Subject: [Fot] A type O.D. Hello can anyone tell me the function of the non return valve on the A type And if the strength of the spring is changed what would be the resultB B thanksB rob _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 28 15:21:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA87740558 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 15:21:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from roproxy2-pub.unifiedlayer.com (roproxy2-pub.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.18.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B3DD2403F1 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 15:17:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 1084 invoked by uid 0); 28 Jul 2013 21:17:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy2.unifiedlayer.com) (66.147.243.71) by roproxy2.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 2013 21:17:11 -0000 {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Received: from just64.justhost.com (just64.justhost.com [173.254.28.64]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.84); Sun, 28 Jul 2013 21:17:11 GMT Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=62809 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V3YL1-00018u-7V for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 15:17:11 -0600 Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 16:17:08 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: [Fot] Road America Helmet Cam Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Not exactly from a Triumph, but is a great point of view in-car video. He probably turns laps 40 to 60 seconds faster than us, so you get more laps per minute here... :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPqwdZLON1w&feature=youtu.be His sports racer looks like a lot of fun to drive (would like to try THAT myself) but he didn't have the kind of close racing we enjoy. Cheers, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 28 15:34:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B014068D for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 15:34:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm23-vm8.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm23-vm8.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.167]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED9294053A for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 15:31:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.158] by nm23.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jul 2013 21:31:10 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.173] by tm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jul 2013 21:31:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp107.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jul 2013 21:31:10 -0000 PRZV1_dtP8nZVbBBE3xanv8KZP6Q_CzKuuGOgEzpTHCRsTopA_mOF3o4Z677 dpKieh_1kIh_uB4ufum1BqKEIG9T0dkP5HUQspLmy21O20IMzrzN59YpFGZ. d6Dw.4JSFyMVl8HjQvLltHjHzp8I8sNT0UA6krKoKENjLCqMHYtE.hfvsfQk _jVXqhWfZ2e4mwjlbU8vdAZBuKmdXEd2HmR8P2GIxw90yX.wmdsOBCh2NWCM nvalHUwW8L3zXeZ3oJuepfzutTrCOT20ODgzkgjIdMu0ROdtaqPlv70KlQp5 gmghRTZevvbLnk66xF4TXwlnguHj4EqHDhB2JCL5JIzXpTQFMIT3r2kM2_L2 7u8lht3Ef9RxUSvMeQ4sBgaGyQRqjdd7Ey7FhjbUVwQs4dfhIpv4G0KSN98w bn3aO3nFzf_wzx3fKxJPQReDDkjgeuNfbfUU_PA66b.vDqU7s4KUErF7Gcim U0GUxrwqzy9n5rIZwFdhx9ipsb_xfUcYXEZu_1Vy516LSsGekFjtOto7CgaF NXrdyhnMl1oda787WgC69h7QxC92W6GNJ8BKKI3eaKjxrM0XIecuJoLoSeLb w plain) by smtp107.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 2013 14:31:10 -0700 PDT Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 16:31:09 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <1654766324.1349413.1375028985556.JavaMail.root@sz0005a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1843281187.1349421.1375029005503.JavaMail.root@sz0005a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <000001ce8bc9$5fd33e50$1f79baf0$@wi.rr.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] A type O.D. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Actually, the spec pressure is 350 for a large accumulator type (pre TR4A) and 450 for the later ones with a small accumulator. Racers prefer the large accumulator and often go to higher pressure for a quicker and more positive shift. Anyone that works on these should have a pressure gauge. Our article in the maintenance section at vtr.org gives guidelines for the effect of shim thickness on pressure and information on where to buy a pressure gauge. Larry Young On 7/28/2013 2:33 PM, Steve Yott wrote: > The A-Type non return valve operates as a check valve for the oil pump. If > the valve is leaking or not closing etc. you will not be able to develop > full operating pressure which should be in 450 to 550 lbs. area. It really > would not provide any advantage to make the spring stiffer as it only holds > the ball valve in position as the pump pressure pushes it open. If you are > looking for an increase in operating pressure the only means is to use > stiffer accumulator springs or shim the current spring. Be very careful > with the second option as I have seen many broken overdrives created by > someone thinking that more spacer means more pressure and that is good!!! > Wrong, it can be very bad if there is too much spacer installed and the > accumulator springs goes into coil bind during operation without exposing > the relief ports. This can create extreme pressures to the point where > parts break! > > Steve Yott > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of 19to1tr6@comcast.net > Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 11:30 AM > To: team, FOT > Subject: [Fot] A type O.D. > > Hello can anyone tell me the function of the non return valve on the A type > And if the strength of the spring is changed what would be the resultB B > thanksB rob _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel@pobox.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 28 18:01:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789D54068D for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 18:01:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail175c2.megamailservers.com (mail175c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03834053E for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 18:01:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.236.8.68] (245.sub-174-237-35.myvzw.com [174.237.35.245]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail175c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r6T01LKI027976 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:01:24 -0400 References: <20130728212130.426224053A@autox.team.net> From: John Hasty Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:01:19 -0400 To: Tony Drews a=fS-QjuT-j6sA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=/OVrlmhq//2RpgypEVCpDA==:17 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=VpkBWGSJAAAA:20 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=0ydghX17YUyORNahQ5YA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=/OVrlmhq//2RpgypEVCpDA==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Road America Helmet Cam Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Gee, where did all those paved paddock roads come from? Last time I was there it was grass & gravel. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 28, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > Not exactly from a Triumph, but is a great point of view in-car video. He probably turns laps 40 to 60 seconds faster than us, so you get more laps per minute here... :) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPqwdZLON1w&feature=youtu.be > > His sports racer looks like a lot of fun to drive (would like to try THAT myself) but he didn't have the kind of close racing we enjoy. > > Cheers, Tony Drews > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 28 18:25:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96B6D4056E for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 18:25:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9C74052A for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 18:22:52 -0600 (MDT) a=ft3aQrzeuTtyZjRjRVvyHw==:17 a=ufghDHTLyEAA:10 a=KDq28Hdd8qkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=2-zCdioxDfcA:10 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=DyMgSWZyTC8Hl-Qsdr8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=MMg2j1qU1dQA:10 a=-s2QjG5GbQcA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=XhYbTWMFEP9o0dIH:21 a=EoCa0EzVV4fRg6EM:21 a=fcDz4j8xvfiRXr78l88A:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=YyzWT_aSPvpgLMa6:21 a=ft3aQrzeuTtyZjRjRVvyHw==:117 Received: from [65.29.157.118] ([65.29.157.118:34426] helo=[10.0.1.4]) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id AB/28-18705-AD5B5F15; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 00:22:51 +0000 From: Allen Washatko To: Sam Halkias Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:22:50 -0500 References: <63DE1723-5F28-4E8B-8C2E-F7C7FE340F48@wi.rr.com> <27FAF35A1FCF4BDCAB95329FBDF51527@EntCentPC> Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Group 44 Paint Colors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Sam. On Jul 25, 2013, at 8:26 PM, Sam Halkias wrote: > The light green is "John Deere Green" on Polar MGB white. Not sure > what the > darker green is but I just went with a darker green that looked good. > > On Jul 25, 2013, at 7:26 PM, "Jack Brooks" wrote: > >> I don't know what they are, but my son matched them really well on >> his >> pinewood derby and it was wicked fast. . . . . >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot- >> bounces@autox.team.net] On >> Behalf Of Allen Washatko >> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 7:31 AM >> To: Friends of Triumph >> Subject: [Fot] Group 44 Paint Colors >> >> FOT, >> >> Does anyone know the exact paint color codes for the two greens on >> the >> stripes of the Group 44 cars? >> >> Allen >> >> >> Allen & Jody Washatko >> 1971 TR6 - Number 6 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jibjib@att.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/atr6racer@hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/awashatko@wi.rr.com > > Jody & Allen Washatko W51 N664 Highland Drive Cedarburg, WI. 53012 USA tel. (262) 617-6801 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 28 18:54:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35FEF4055B for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 18:54:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.55]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546F64053A for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 18:53:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.174] by nm17.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jul 2013 00:53:02 -0000 Received: from [98.139.213.12] by tm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jul 2013 00:53:02 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp112.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jul 2013 00:53:02 -0000 s=s1024; t=1375059182; bh=3RpJbPcLEXLJtPpvdtpWta+lkZvwsa5ZjMs+Nh6gNVw=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Date:Subject:Message-ID:From:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=x/QUSDV7hbwZUIT47glb3BUxvGa2FC4WiDR6mPGT/qMM0kNfq8iOft3Ho9rtGSbVMQ0NvLh+tjq2/NAFz7SnxXfGR2wSa4keIgtLkUnUbFyH773IlA4WMn0Z/4ai01cH/DMHKFEPupc61oygrZmn4zGalDHxVIiE1g596JWRRuY= rb73yddtcGVaxfEOgFJvfqpzhcs0ny3Ko6ven4lfaAW0Vf9aeG9BJ30Sstl4 8U76HmYryoc5JSz2TZKRK0DI2GdpHIOQRju7fTskEbH5YTY1i1p0DQZORcNM Fomk9QJZzu9JefrUqtkIefpRbhwGxrVcC2wattBYv5GusVUwsxfWQZ_T8m_u ufarGz5MnTL6SJTSy_BPTe69f1ZW0oWCTECv4s8TNzH8cT9t4KgwsMzNLhPc qzKMGy5cZxMhVDvietNLzn5xHbKWYFzlwtTdGJZunGUqawUcVR_Lbp5EfB1x x.lAId6gMRwsxfSgiiFQcbCEMinOuaYJzmXnU9hmNA9uN38U7B9J3Qwfb4yg WbZL.YSInEcYU1g1PWY5epbmY3V_beumRWyb4y0rRvbGdhBncnHVU6f3jI3S 1bzgij9pJmhfzf_3yN80K65YppXQzVuqlh2sGneoLZUDWy25CSeBy5Hv0uHv G24OLzFgYYNnDK8usB2iXnwFIA2sE9NMsi9RvHaXkKt5Pt7bEysOr9ZOSlyD VBzVUDH.1gDTHmsV5zhowHapgP13Xrqc8g_m5qIrhMJ9.M90- by smtp112.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 2013 17:53:02 -0700 PDT Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:52:59 -0400 From: "Steve Benford Jr." To: Allen Washatko Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Group 44 Paint Colors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have the colour numbers somewhere that where straight from Lanky. I just got back from a week of Appalachia Service Project work in West Virginia with my daughter so give me a day to find then. Thumbs Up. Allen Washatko wrote: >Thanks Sam. >On Jul 25, 2013, at 8:26 PM, Sam Halkias wrote: > >> The light green is "John Deere Green" on Polar MGB white. Not sure >> what the >> darker green is but I just went with a darker green that looked good. >> >> On Jul 25, 2013, at 7:26 PM, "Jack Brooks" wrote: >> >>> I don't know what they are, but my son matched them really well on >>> his >>> pinewood derby and it was wicked fast. . . . . >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot- >>> bounces@autox.team.net] On >>> Behalf Of Allen Washatko >>> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 7:31 AM >>> To: Friends of Triumph >>> Subject: [Fot] Group 44 Paint Colors >>> >>> FOT, >>> >>> Does anyone know the exact paint color codes for the two greens on >>> the >>> stripes of the Group 44 cars? >>> >>> Allen >>> >>> >>> Allen & Jody Washatko >>> 1971 TR6 - Number 6 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jibjib@att.net >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/atr6racer@hotmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/awashatko@wi.rr.com >> >> > >Jody & Allen Washatko >W51 N664 Highland Drive >Cedarburg, WI. 53012 >USA > >tel. (262) 617-6801 >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbracing@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 29 00:07:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E9F42713 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 00:07:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B0940EB9 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 00:07:10 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=qZqGDTaqHSsA:10 a=kc4XHjK8AAAA:20 a=PByjQFJXAAAA:20 a=ZIC8D4LEj9M8a_RpNM8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=KXuLW65_DLEA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55027] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id CB/28-07055-C8606F15; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:07:09 +0000 From: "Randall" To: <19to1tr6@comcast.net>, "'team, FOT'" Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 23:07:11 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6Lr/B0TcVAdPW2SvCLznuRAzyi1gAcI90A Subject: Re: [Fot] A type O.D. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > Hello can anyone tell me the function of the non return valve > on the A type And if the strength of the spring is changed > what would be the result It essentially functions as the exhaust valve for the hydraulic pump. On the pressure stroke, the ball lifts and allows oil into the accumulator; then when the pump piston returns, the ball seats and keeps oil from flowing back into the pump. If the existing spring is too weak, then a stronger one will help build pressure faster (or at all). There's an old "Mr Finespanner" article on the web somewhere, talking about the "fix" being to shim up that spring. http://tinyurl.com/mt25ynm But mine was apparently strong enough, as I couldn't tell any difference at all with a shim (so I left it out). Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 29 00:34:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9442042711 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 00:34:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22A2B40C01 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 00:31:25 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=qZqGDTaqHSsA:10 a=HTms6nFJAAAA:8 a=eweqt2OTkxDcmG13_dYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=EHo1H-ENYtMA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55009] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 4A/73-07055-B3C06F15; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:31:24 +0000 From: "Randall" To: Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 23:31:26 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6L2kjApq1YJDVEQIePyIKEq5scywASOmwA Subject: Re: [Fot] A type O.D. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > Our article in > the maintenance section at vtr.org gives guidelines for the > effect of shim thickness on pressure and information on where > to buy a pressure gauge. It's a very good article; and yet I wish it had included a copy of Steve's warning. I found out the hard way. The pressure on the bench and in the car looked fine at lower rpm. But the spring was reaching coil bind at higher rpm and the resulting pressure literally bent the bars that the pistons ride against, before eventually forcing the clutch assembly out of the carrier. That big circlip looked like a pretzel; and the clutch assembly was pretty much ruined. The excess pressure may also have something to do with the thrust washer exploding, and the case being about .080" longer afterwards. FWIW, I turned my own adapter for the pressure gauge; a fun but practical lathe project. You can use the plug as a pattern for the OD end, then just drill & tap a hole for the pressure gauge (mine was 1/4 NPT). Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 29 02:42:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 631AF40C01 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 02:42:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.o2.co.uk (vader.london.02.net [82.132.130.150]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8651440539 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 02:42:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.224.111.135] (82.132.231.236) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.5.140.03) id 51DA8AB503F386C9; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 09:42:15 +0100 References: <924F4052-C74C-448E-91B4-67CDB42FBB47@cs.com> From: TR4 Tony Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 09:20:53 +0100 To: Joe Alexander Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Lifetime Rear Mount for Triumph TR3, TR4, early TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe Got mine today - looks good so going in something special. Regards Tony Sent from my iPhone On 28 Jul 2013, at 16:17, Joe Alexander wrote: > We have more of these Heavy Duty rear mounts available if there is any > interest. > > They are very impressive and going into some very interesting cars. > > Profit? Naw! > > It will likely take a couple years to recover development and tooling costs. > > It's what we do. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 29 07:27:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9562A40C01 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:27:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m07.mx.aol.com (omr-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01EA6403FB for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:22:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.200]) by omr-m07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6D7927003549A; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 09:22:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtb004a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtb004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.205]) by mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 2196FE000087; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 09:22:24 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 09:22:24 -0400 (EDT) To: jhhasty@gdhs.com, tony@tonydrews.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375104144; bh=8jTODwrh4YuDzJdsukfAzEaQtkpcm9Wp14IE4tkn31A=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KdHeyYHe831fl2kvaBkjdX+eeEVI/e26qZG2mSTYBwyp0tMLSmXsb4MEhx9ah3UPO pkmpOhvWrOI9ZURmUrsAmSQUvKdb/lmGoH14gBrh0lu4Of46FcWOSYast1z5Xil2/w M+qqTQ1sprVTa2G3a3cmAkqtnju+QJD0Y6o0FWqk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c851f66c902c78 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Road America Helmet Cam Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 07/28/2013 7:01:31 PM Central Daylight Time, jhhasty@gdhs.com writes: > Gee, where did all those paved paddock roads come from? Last time I was > there > it was grass & gravel. > There is still plenty of green grass (not much gravel) paddock area. The recently completed HAWK had an announced entry of 460 cars, and there still was ample open (and desirable) paddock areas available. ROAD AMERICA is huge. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 29 08:16:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C1A40452 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 08:16:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m04.mx.aol.com (omr-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FDC3403FB for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 08:08:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.73]) by omr-m04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7D1457000009A for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:08:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtb004a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtb004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.205]) by mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 564CDE000086 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:08:41 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:08:41 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375106921; bh=PzlhSjZCTTDEI1aaT34/pwSDijS29jzLBEVWNHcD/NI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=r8IooERdwQFLQg40GIkbDIkZnE0W84sGf4rsy6oV+BgaIgfeC9fp1WOg6R8EGS/YN 9gIcSDISrTW3qu3izIyOWT3PVdQMjfgXVXegSmbMda/zOuuSUkSDTu8NdlPGzZOmhB yz4wa4kf3HkEJxuJ6LLddm4pdDqlYz0LxYoCDM4c= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294951f677697126 Subject: [Fot] 1964 Triumph TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici... FYI...fellow FOTer, Jeff Snook (Snook's Dream Cars) is currently selling my 1964 Triumph TR4 street car in an eBay auction. Three days into a ten day auction, it is item number 261253573264. I hate to part with it as it has strong, important, family ties, but our house needs new windows and there are other issues. If it is not the best TR4 in the country...it ain't my fault. God (and the bank) knows I tried. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 29 10:00:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4325340E97 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:00:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d02.mx.aol.com (omr-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE009403A6 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:00:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.129]) by omr-d02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 00839700AB806; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:00:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id F2071E0000E3; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:00:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:54:32 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375113638; bh=iHuY3nM8OrVzjfmb8wwXuVozx42keWXSkbuO8kAnEVA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=Keaux8EYgBMl8LQVxJ1GxfRwFPeqCXc61b3E2NAVHMT10K+bZvDHnGmFtu/kUBrEM GHALXVdDHgqS908bmkuxGbvdkShSHPiLvbpneUDdWju5eineqmrN/n4ApADdVpmrjQ /4HhI6PNVsysz92eoP3Q8CQsdoa6akHR/uKghhUg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338151f691a20f9b Cc: Seth Mcgee Subject: [Fot] Plug recommendation for Bonneville Run? TR3A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT, Relatively stock engine with Kas' Velocity Stacks to run Bonneville 5-8 September. Any recommendations on plugs? He getting ready for dyno runs....any support would be appreciated. He doing this because it seems like the right thing to do as a hobbyist. Like most of us........ Thanks _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 29 10:22:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF72140EB9 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:22:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9434032B for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:22:09 -0600 (MDT) a=ft3aQrzeuTtyZjRjRVvyHw==:17 a=ufghDHTLyEAA:10 a=KDq28Hdd8qkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=2-zCdioxDfcA:10 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=pcLIrrrKAAAA:8 a=Ze96msxwglxYkKg2h7kA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=MMg2j1qU1dQA:10 a=-s2QjG5GbQcA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=ftFGBYpk1mUA:10 a=jrDEyUjaNAd7PEPT:21 a=98sCI0Uk2H6a1BBp:21 a=vvRbbzDQGpTAZruoBQwA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=Cyb26a5GEOZHU11l:21 a=ft3aQrzeuTtyZjRjRVvyHw==:117 Received: from [65.29.157.118] ([65.29.157.118:40160] helo=[10.0.1.4]) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id B9/73-25552-0B696F15; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 16:22:09 +0000 From: Allen Washatko To: "Steve Benford Jr." Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 11:22:08 -0500 References: Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Group 44 Paint Colors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Steve. I would appreciate it. I commend you on your service project! Allen On Jul 28, 2013, at 7:52 PM, Steve Benford Jr. wrote: > I have the colour numbers somewhere that where straight from Lanky. > I just got back from a week of Appalachia Service Project work in > West Virginia with my daughter so give me a day to find then. > Thumbs Up. > > Allen Washatko wrote: > >> Thanks Sam. >> On Jul 25, 2013, at 8:26 PM, Sam Halkias wrote: >> >>> The light green is "John Deere Green" on Polar MGB white. Not sure >>> what the >>> darker green is but I just went with a darker green that looked >>> good. >>> >>> On Jul 25, 2013, at 7:26 PM, "Jack Brooks" wrote: >>> >>>> I don't know what they are, but my son matched them really well on >>>> his >>>> pinewood derby and it was wicked fast. . . . . >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot- >>>> bounces@autox.team.net] On >>>> Behalf Of Allen Washatko >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 7:31 AM >>>> To: Friends of Triumph >>>> Subject: [Fot] Group 44 Paint Colors >>>> >>>> FOT, >>>> >>>> Does anyone know the exact paint color codes for the two greens on >>>> the >>>> stripes of the Group 44 cars? >>>> >>>> Allen >>>> >>>> >>>> Allen & Jody Washatko >>>> 1971 TR6 - Number 6 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jibjib@att.net >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/atr6racer@hotmail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/awashatko@wi.rr.com >>> >>> >> >> Jody & Allen Washatko >> W51 N664 Highland Drive >> Cedarburg, WI. 53012 >> USA >> >> tel. (262) 617-6801 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbracing@sbcglobal.net >> >> Allen & Jody Washatko 1971 TR6 - Number 6 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 29 12:26:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2387142708 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:26:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (unknown [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE820425AD for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:24:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.129]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id D89C8700AA793 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:24:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 4B6EAE000155 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:24:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:24:23 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375122270; bh=LP/ES4FQi34inxeDH3G/QnBvLBYgV9p3f6JeTZysyAE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=yx2M5cMDoKu41l3p8m6unfZMVV/GN1t6cArN0PM524xg9xPRUyyqdsr8uXptYccVx 3iSHotcJJwi9qSpuD+vB5ufcSa7q3OerxLcmqggoKhEjHp8MGpoekmF+tqjXtdIoPT vZ/73Tbt/miieRr3X3x+mEBT1hdg/Ech79HoDhww= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338151f6b35a293c Subject: [Fot] Gather on the Green. Looking for FOT Triumphs to display Saturday afternoon. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If you have a presentable street TR, you might want to submit to GOG. They would like to have at least one of each model of the Featured Marque. Gather on the Green is a very nice part of the weekend at the Osthoff. Forms are on the websites We have so far: Stag. Uncle Jack Spitfire. Shawn TR3A TR4. Jay Holecamp TR6 Various models are still open.....Heralds, Vitesse, TR7, TR8, Peerless, Doretti, etc. We want the FOT represented. There is a deadline on submittals.!,,,,! There is a nice plaque with your name and car model that goes with acceptance. It's a chance to be a bigger part of the KCup weekend. Check in with VSCDA and ask them the questions.... Thanks! Joe A _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 29 13:06:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C06B3426C3 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:06:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm8-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm8-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.246]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C47442705 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:04:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.172] by nm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jul 2013 19:04:48 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.97] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jul 2013 19:04:48 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp117.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jul 2013 19:04:48 -0000 YvmDGIWolp.X2zhWCgdrwwBUShlMCoku0iBHfucP89S9.t5VhcnjeF7XV6aY GeMkL5zQwtmrgpYzeJQ6KRe1fTumheirzzUp5bbifr850wKKloF8AAgnz.P1 .s4dGLNxxrTMwsbH1sjGxjam_06Yh9NrmzzmS70ZU4GdP8iYSTVR2UJAZseR Ckdr99EV3vonnkwBvBsItuhTmR_bOmfjV85g21evNv21Ryw2Rp2aqQJ_fvDf hb_.XDZrxd0dUUmzDORj41Khj7hRUqDr3Q_cTNuN0l3kC70kqYo2D9WBqgeN hsykcitLp7OY.27pjV_bhLdzIEA.kxdt7_R6vnQOolbJHuIexU7R_fwvig2B W1AxQAGA.wDZGA3kfRVV0hdcZOwVkscWQgbiw7NsgXT5GyG9.aYVRRcDZYy9 OTnPaiaKop4Gt.YpxG7Um9w6MlDV73r1AzHn7QPvCcWqS4Utjlh7e6qAjYJ4 g6ZEbin1B3h13d7vQk4r1Og-- plain) by smtp117.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jul 2013 19:04:48 +0000 UTC Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:04:50 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <4A.73.07055.B3C06F15@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] A type O.D. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Steve and Randall, We didn't include that warning, because I had never heard of coil bind occurring in these units. I tested the springs with a valve spring gauge with a range that didn't allow me to reach coil bind. The accumulator springs or so stiff (over 500 lb/in) a couple of hardware store washers will increase the pressure about 50 psi. I shimmed a large accumulator OD to about 525 psi with no problems. When the coil bind happened, what was the shim thickness and what pressure were you at? Was it a large or small accumulator? I will add a warning when we update the article, but would like the details. I suppose this would suggest that you need to bench test it at a speed which is high enough to activate the relief valve. Otherwise, you have no idea what pressure you will have at speed. Larry On 7/29/2013 1:31 AM, Randall wrote: > It's a very good article; and yet I wish it had included a copy of Steve's > warning. I found out the hard way. > > The pressure on the bench and in the car looked fine at lower rpm. But the > spring was reaching coil bind at higher rpm and the resulting pressure > literally bent the bars that the pistons ride against, before eventually > forcing the clutch assembly out of the carrier. That big circlip looked > like a pretzel; and the clutch assembly was pretty much ruined. The excess > pressure may also have something to do with the thrust washer exploding, and > the case being about .080" longer afterSwards. > > FWIW, I turned my own adapter for the pressure gauge; a fun but practical > lathe project. You can use the plug as a pattern for the OD end, then just > drill & tap a hole for the pressure gauge (mine was 1/4 NPT). > > Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 29 13:20:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D4040EA8 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:20:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d02.mx.aol.com (omr-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C9A40359 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:20:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.197]) by omr-d02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B093A700000BA for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:20:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 0F13EE0000BC for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:20:46 -0400 (EDT) References: From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:20:45 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375125646; bh=Ar5zkVqP2o7lQw4A+KUjNgF/qBjrjaDcv99TyRyLVzw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=T6AzaajagB5jJogMAmqEWmFlk/xz4bk65Dj5wT9ET1KHxOzjosiL6Y2YkmEO1m73t gDbCBYuT4Ns4D5MOuG0r9rtOg9Mqr0hggyuYlMMjwpQGoDUjkJ1UbxWQn2chYo3U0f o8qiPfJzRgg2z97l9kxMCGsff9WJp9OH79fao1nw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c551f6c08d031a Subject: [Fot] Gather on the Green. Looking for FOT RACECARS to display Saturday afternoon. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > This is a No Charge feature for registered drivers and cars. You ARE invited to make a small donation to a worthy cause. > We want every Triumph RACECAR we can get downtown. > > For both the Old Course Reenactment and the GOG. > > The flaw to this.....if you stay for GOG, there is no police escort for return, as they will take the race cars from the OC Reenactment back to the track, only. > > Our GOG racecars will have to be trailered back to the track, unless they are licensed for the street. > > But we will want as many there as possible. Please try. It's a major deal at the Osthoff. > > Fill out the form for your RACECAR and if you can't follow through, that's ok. > > I have checked with VSCDA on this. > >> > Joe A _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 30 10:36:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E0942706 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:36:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79FD40690 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:36:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from AR5J3QR6XV (cpe-70-113-116-224.austin.res.rr.com [70.113.116.224]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Mg52j-1Ugmm738cP-00NQfw; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:36:20 -0400 From: "FoodDude" To: Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:36:17 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac6NQquPyIzwpdnrT1+P6PZU6UF+nA== Content-Language: en-us PQAchkeOskodmNSjPr/1Ny82Ys41CBICgXGBvDECnW9+8OEfuj lDCArQo/WCvqeA44mMsED5WealjVWxeA1ePNTLGxojklppttMA s6tvP84hcI83QFtu3rcRc1Vi26xOMGyl5tyRWL/825qRHux8WF rc3Y+Nf8slXqaCecs+YuA1ypqFI0Gu7OZrSH0OP6GYqVlQBPKa FWstZvhww9At21lYqEVQ8/zcsSU7BY+CD1u6ORanZr1ER5L+JX VjF+jzYJr6t7KAz1eXseTRhzE/43NcOTA7GLJ8XDhwUAVds/QM Mte7nfJEcc7gXvVxrVlCGsEPbRlXfFiu/FrwsOuoM Subject: [Fot] HANS/Similar required at Nationals at COTA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fot: For those of you traveling to the US Vintage Nationals at COTA in Austin held by SVRA this October: SVRA Competition Bulletin #CB2013-009 June 18, 2013 by SRVA Subject: SAFETY-Head and Neck Support Systems From: Raymond Snowdon, Competition Director SVRA Competition Bulletin #CB2013-009 (PDF) The safety of all competitors is of primary concern to all of us at the Sportscar Vintage Racing Association. Following a number of incidents in various Vintage events during 2012 and the current 2013 season, SVRA has interviewed drivers and emergency personnel involved. One common statement has been made regarding each incident: $B!H(Bthe HANS system saved the driver.$B!I(B As a result of this information and feedback, SVRA feels immediate action is appropriate to continue being a leader in safety compliance for drivers. Effective July 1, 2013, HEAD and NECK SUPPORT SYSTEMS that meet SFI 38.1 Standards, are MANDATORY for all competitors in S.V.R.A. events. Information on these Systems can be found at: www.sfifoundation.com. Click: MANUFACTURERS, then click $B!H(B38.1$B!m(B. Pre War drivers will be currently exempt from this requirement, but drivers are urged to investigate, select, and use alternate head and neck support as currently benefiting enduro, karting and motorcycle road racers. And from SFI Foundation: Specification 38.1 - Head and Neck Restraint Systems HANS Performance Products - HANS Device (All Series) Leatt Brace - MRX Device NecksGen Device Simpson R3 Device Simpson R3 Rage Device Simpson Hybrid Pro Device Simpson Hybrid Pro Rage Device Simpson Hybrid/Hybrid Rage Device Simpson Hybrid X Device Please note that there are products from other manufacturers such as DefNder, Leatt Brace, and Safety Solutions that were previously certified and labeled as meeting SFI 38.1. They are not currently listed on the SFI website because they are no longer in new production. However, any devices still in the field or at retail outlets that have SFI 38.1 stickers on them were properly tested and certified at the time. The certifications for those devices remain valid. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 30 10:51:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6322042711 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:51:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f41.google.com (mail-ee0-f41.google.com [74.125.83.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 948B340424 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:51:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f41.google.com with SMTP id d17so3231525eek.0 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:51:09 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=MMvK62Yn79k31ltfJwj4l2v4oPb+S53f7HyxOiRoM2s=; b=d09Kb5Rhly2YZaRG8VzsuCpkAnPVXoak6pyYYuVZ/XnrY1CxlBl196hFZqP8JqcmU9 aWHjFh22zlwx8ZUBuF6qzxrDTfQ19IM7xgEcKL5LzLFhCsdqFCuOf71UbyGkEmQTIBg3 FN3H2dWLjEvJ9obpWifZg5LuuY6pp6Qb/ROn4lVetGti0x1PRC4yQ9T/ucFNNUmi82sZ KLs5xE/YNDyVBaAFdZgHYFVh8Vs0zvQAPMJiEXl9ToV62pEIw50zAczeOy1WL1elThQD iLjy1WjiMpSO5SO9uMDLl1kxLtzz+bYFZ5XxfQKu0xir8Dz+DVOVz33MF0qCx3tXSJjF WJdg== a44mr39473745eeo.46.1375203069834; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([46.79.27.14]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bj46sm111877806eeb.13.2013.07.30.09.51.08 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:51:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <039b01ce8d42$eb72a480$c257ed80$@fooddude.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:51:09 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6NQquPyIzwpdnrT1+P6PZU6UF+nAAAkRSw Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS/Similar required at Nationals at COTA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Is this also mandatory at RA? -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von FoodDude Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. Juli 2013 18:36 An: fot@autox.team.net Betreff: [Fot] HANS/Similar required at Nationals at COTA Fot: For those of you traveling to the US Vintage Nationals at COTA in Austin held by SVRA this October: SVRA Competition Bulletin #CB2013-009 June 18, 2013 by SRVA Subject: SAFETY-Head and Neck Support Systems From: Raymond Snowdon, Competition Director SVRA Competition Bulletin #CB2013-009 (PDF) The safety of all competitors is of primary concern to all of us at the Sportscar Vintage Racing Association. Following a number of incidents in various Vintage events during 2012 and the current 2013 season, SVRA has interviewed drivers and emergency personnel involved. One common statement has been made regarding each incident: $B!H(Bthe HANS system saved the driver.$B!I(B As a result of this information and feedback, SVRA feels immediate action is appropriate to continue being a leader in safety compliance for drivers. Effective July 1, 2013, HEAD and NECK SUPPORT SYSTEMS that meet SFI 38.1 Standards, are MANDATORY for all competitors in S.V.R.A. events. Information on these Systems can be found at: www.sfifoundation.com. Click: MANUFACTURERS, then click $B!H(B38.1$B!m(B. Pre War drivers will be currently exempt from this requirement, but drivers are urged to investigate, select, and use alternate head and neck support as currently benefiting enduro, karting and motorcycle road racers. And from SFI Foundation: Specification 38.1 - Head and Neck Restraint Systems HANS Performance Products - HANS Device (All Series) Leatt Brace - MRX Device NecksGen Device Simpson R3 Device Simpson R3 Rage Device Simpson Hybrid Pro Device Simpson Hybrid Pro Rage Device Simpson Hybrid/Hybrid Rage Device Simpson Hybrid X Device Please note that there are products from other manufacturers such as DefNder, Leatt Brace, and Safety Solutions that were previously certified and labeled as meeting SFI 38.1. They are not currently listed on the SFI website because they are no longer in new production. However, any devices still in the field or at retail outlets that have SFI 38.1 stickers on them were properly tested and certified at the time. The certifications for those devices remain valid. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 30 11:04:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5FF42719 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:04:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy3-pub.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy3-pub.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.30.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 10FFB40359 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:00:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 1915 invoked by uid 0); 30 Jul 2013 17:00:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy2.unifiedlayer.com) (66.147.243.71) by gproxy3.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 30 Jul 2013 17:00:29 -0000 {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Received: from just64.justhost.com (just64.justhost.com [173.254.28.64]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.84); Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:00:29 GMT Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=61449 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V4DHg-00008J-Op; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:00:28 -0600 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:00:24 -0500 To: "MadMarx" , From: Tony Drews References: <039b01ce8d42$eb72a480$c257ed80$@fooddude.com> <000301ce8d44$febd1460$fc373d20$@com> {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS/Similar required at Nationals at COTA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net VSCDA website says the they recommend but do not require a HANS device (or approved equivalent). Tony D At 11:51 AM 7/30/2013, MadMarx wrote: >Is this also mandatory at RA? > > >-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- >Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im >Auftrag von FoodDude >Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. Juli 2013 18:36 >An: fot@autox.team.net >Betreff: [Fot] HANS/Similar required at Nationals at COTA > >Fot: > >For those of you traveling to the US Vintage Nationals at COTA in Austin >held by SVRA this October: > > >SVRA Competition Bulletin #CB2013-009 > > >June 18, 2013 by SRVA > >Subject: SAFETY-Head and Neck Support Systems >From: Raymond Snowdon, Competition Director > >SVRA Competition Bulletin #CB2013-009 >009.pdf> (PDF) > >The safety of all competitors is of primary concern to all of us at the >Sportscar Vintage Racing Association. > >Following a number of incidents in various Vintage events during 2012 and >the current 2013 season, SVRA has interviewed drivers and emergency >personnel involved. One common statement has been made regarding each >incident: $B!H(Bthe HANS system saved the driver.$B!I(B > >As a result of this information and feedback, SVRA feels immediate action is >appropriate to continue being a leader in safety compliance for drivers. > >Effective July 1, 2013, HEAD and NECK SUPPORT SYSTEMS that meet SFI 38.1 >Standards, are MANDATORY for all competitors in S.V.R.A. events. > >Information on these Systems can be found at: www.sfifoundation.com. Click: >MANUFACTURERS, then click $B!H(B38.1$B!m(B. > >Pre War drivers will be currently exempt from this requirement, but drivers >are urged to investigate, select, and use alternate head and neck support as >currently benefiting enduro, karting and motorcycle road racers. > >And from SFI Foundation: > >Specification 38.1 - Head and Neck Restraint Systems HANS Performance >Products - HANS Device (All Series) com> >Leatt Brace - MRX Device NecksGen Device > Simpson R3 Device > >Simpson R3 Rage Device >Simpson Hybrid Pro Device >Simpson Hybrid Pro Rage Device >Simpson Hybrid/Hybrid Rage Device > >Simpson Hybrid X Device > >Please note that there are products from other manufacturers such as >DefNder, Leatt Brace, and Safety Solutions that were previously certified >and labeled as meeting SFI 38.1. They are not currently listed on the SFI >website because they are no longer in new production. However, any devices >still in the field or at retail outlets that have SFI 38.1 stickers on them >were properly tested and certified at the time. The certifications for those >devices remain valid. >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 30 11:11:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39664270E for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:11:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC64D4032A for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:11:42 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=+o7Vte6hO9mtxlgkHU8mrQ==:17 a=ucAf1ciV_MMA:10 a=IR_XmdXcJG8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=Lm1D473rSvwA:10 a=rpB1CqzKAAAA:8 a=FvTowB9aAAAA:8 a=qYthAC8ZAAAA:8 a=zLP5QQjbAAAA:8 a=1v-anckAAAAA:8 a=gmYAMOt7AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=0teH8tJBjLImaoBAECIA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=ztUPYMzusQ0A:10 a=Yx0V01CFt0cA:10 a=+o7Vte6hO9mtxlgkHU8mrQ==:117 Received: from [166.137.122.117] ([166.137.122.117:62446] helo=[10.80.51.122]) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 93/2E-15971-DC3F7F15; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:11:41 +0000 References: <039b01ce8d42$eb72a480$c257ed80$@fooddude.com> From: Bob Kramer Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:11:37 -0500 To: FoodDude Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS/Similar required at Nationals at COTA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Are any FOT planning on coming to Austin for the first ever vintage race weekend at the F1 track? (SVRA Oct 24-28) Bob Kramer Sent from my iPhone On Jul 30, 2013, at 11:36 AM, "FoodDude" wrote: > Fot: > > For those of you traveling to the US Vintage Nationals at COTA in Austin > held by SVRA this October: > > > SVRA Competition Bulletin #CB2013-009 > > > June 18, 2013 by SRVA > > Subject: SAFETY-Head and Neck Support Systems > From: Raymond Snowdon, Competition Director > > SVRA Competition Bulletin #CB2013-009 > 009.pdf> (PDF) > > The safety of all competitors is of primary concern to all of us at the > Sportscar Vintage Racing Association. > > Following a number of incidents in various Vintage events during 2012 and > the current 2013 season, SVRA has interviewed drivers and emergency > personnel involved. One common statement has been made regarding each > incident: bthe HANS system saved the driver.b > > As a result of this information and feedback, SVRA feels immediate action is > appropriate to continue being a leader in safety compliance for drivers. > > Effective July 1, 2013, HEAD and NECK SUPPORT SYSTEMS that meet SFI 38.1 > Standards, are MANDATORY for all competitors in S.V.R.A. events. > > Information on these Systems can be found at: www.sfifoundation.com. Click: > MANUFACTURERS, then click b38.1b3. > > Pre War drivers will be currently exempt from this requirement, but drivers > are urged to investigate, select, and use alternate head and neck support as > currently benefiting enduro, karting and motorcycle road racers. > > And from SFI Foundation: > > Specification 38.1 - Head and Neck Restraint Systems > HANS Performance Products - HANS Device (All Series) com> > Leatt Brace - MRX Device > NecksGen Device > Simpson R3 Device > Simpson R3 Rage Device > Simpson Hybrid Pro Device > Simpson Hybrid Pro Rage Device > Simpson Hybrid/Hybrid Rage Device > > Simpson Hybrid X Device > > Please note that there are products from other manufacturers such as > DefNder, Leatt Brace, and Safety Solutions that were previously certified > and labeled as meeting SFI 38.1. They are not currently listed on the SFI > website because they are no longer in new production. However, any devices > still in the field or at retail outlets that have SFI 38.1 stickers on them > were properly tested and certified at the time. The certifications for those > devices remain valid. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 30 11:13:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 771A94270E for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:13:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f47.google.com (mail-ee0-f47.google.com [74.125.83.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235D24032A for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:13:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f47.google.com with SMTP id d49so1320519eek.6 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:13:02 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=qh1crtgSSbhV3YxuCSLfzex9VEcYeaapsU81gcUFhTQ=; b=EvmtQT2Kh+l8YfFtuUB/ZP6c+eb2eI7QYVfbvuM2rCyjaUXICpFzjD3PqDlebaTsMI ZnXEDVHYS9eHXNG9I6bDMkeTLKs/IeupKz23CUI0OxVML6yukeOxmV4lPDoYZX5WgJ6C Plg1A6hVATv4r+Q4bnfrIsqQog5sBsJ/PXZafUGlZlWFVEe91pGNFODj4BNp8+YI0iNJ 46+6kvJgGdY9tyWaCrIPVa0u13i2aI/scoyP0XsjSnb6EOMGEAWz6EQ7pWV+vgmPsYcT m37x//S/wQvgEfy5Q7F/NOWITwik+iuCo2IkVU82VxVSuQasogR1TYwUS5C2nFLw+ICp nGvg== x9mr65326606eeu.103.1375204382578; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([46.79.27.14]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id c3sm112030705eev.3.2013.07.30.10.13.01 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:13:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Tony Drews'" , References: <039b01ce8d42$eb72a480$c257ed80$@fooddude.com> <000301ce8d44$febd1460$fc373d20$@com> <51f7f12e.84e9440a.0c08.54c3SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:13:01 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6NRkxwFpZxmes3ReORMkHcFXB85AAAbG7A Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS/Similar required at Nationals at COTA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net To make sure I've just bought an HANS helmet and gear. -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Tony Drews [mailto:tony@tonydrews.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. Juli 2013 19:00 An: MadMarx; fot@autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] HANS/Similar required at Nationals at COTA VSCDA website says the they recommend but do not require a HANS device (or approved equivalent). Tony D At 11:51 AM 7/30/2013, MadMarx wrote: >Is this also mandatory at RA? > > >-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- >Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im >Auftrag von FoodDude >Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. Juli 2013 18:36 >An: fot@autox.team.net >Betreff: [Fot] HANS/Similar required at Nationals at COTA > >Fot: > >For those of you traveling to the US Vintage Nationals at COTA in >Austin held by SVRA this October: > > >SVRA Competition Bulletin #CB2013-009 > > >June 18, 2013 by SRVA > >Subject: SAFETY-Head and Neck Support Systems >From: Raymond Snowdon, Competition Director > >SVRA Competition Bulletin #CB2013-009 >2013- >009.pdf> (PDF) > >The safety of all competitors is of primary concern to all of us at the >Sportscar Vintage Racing Association. > >Following a number of incidents in various Vintage events during 2012 >and the current 2013 season, SVRA has interviewed drivers and emergency >personnel involved. One common statement has been made regarding each >incident: $B!H(Bthe HANS system saved the driver.$B!I(B > >As a result of this information and feedback, SVRA feels immediate >action is appropriate to continue being a leader in safety compliance for drivers. > >Effective July 1, 2013, HEAD and NECK SUPPORT SYSTEMS that meet SFI >38.1 Standards, are MANDATORY for all competitors in S.V.R.A. events. > >Information on these Systems can be found at: www.sfifoundation.com. Click: >MANUFACTURERS, then click $B!H(B38.1$B!m(B. > >Pre War drivers will be currently exempt from this requirement, but >drivers are urged to investigate, select, and use alternate head and >neck support as currently benefiting enduro, karting and motorcycle road racers. > >And from SFI Foundation: > >Specification 38.1 - Head and Neck Restraint Systems HANS Performance >Products - HANS Device (All Series) com> >Leatt Brace - MRX Device NecksGen Device > Simpson R3 Device > >Simpson R3 Rage Device >Simpson Hybrid Pro Device >Simpson Hybrid Pro Rage Device > >Simpson Hybrid/Hybrid Rage Device > > >Simpson Hybrid X Device > >Please note that there are products from other manufacturers such as >DefNder, Leatt Brace, and Safety Solutions that were previously >certified and labeled as meeting SFI 38.1. They are not currently >listed on the SFI website because they are no longer in new production. >However, any devices still in the field or at retail outlets that have >SFI 38.1 stickers on them were properly tested and certified at the >time. The certifications for those devices remain valid. >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 30 11:21:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D831342711 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:21:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy3-pub.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy3-pub.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.30.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 60644403A5 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:21:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 16397 invoked by uid 0); 30 Jul 2013 17:21:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy2.unifiedlayer.com) (66.147.243.71) by gproxy3.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 30 Jul 2013 17:21:11 -0000 {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Received: from just64.justhost.com (just64.justhost.com [173.254.28.64]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.84); Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:21:11 GMT Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=61650 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V4Dbj-0003pu-IE; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:21:11 -0600 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:21:07 -0500 To: "MadMarx" , From: Tony Drews References: <039b01ce8d42$eb72a480$c257ed80$@fooddude.com> <000301ce8d44$febd1460$fc373d20$@com> <51f7f12e.84e9440a.0c08.54c3SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> <000a01ce8d48$0d25dcf0$277196d0$@com> {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS/Similar required at Nationals at COTA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I highly recommend that safety equipment! Tony At 12:13 PM 7/30/2013, MadMarx wrote: >To make sure I've just bought an HANS helmet and gear. > > >-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- >Von: Tony Drews [mailto:tony@tonydrews.com] >Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. Juli 2013 19:00 >An: MadMarx; fot@autox.team.net >Betreff: Re: [Fot] HANS/Similar required at Nationals at COTA > >VSCDA website says the they recommend but do not require a HANS device (or >approved equivalent). > >Tony D > >At 11:51 AM 7/30/2013, MadMarx wrote: > >Is this also mandatory at RA? > > > > > >-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > >Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im > >Auftrag von FoodDude > >Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. Juli 2013 18:36 > >An: fot@autox.team.net > >Betreff: [Fot] HANS/Similar required at Nationals at COTA > > > >Fot: > > > >For those of you traveling to the US Vintage Nationals at COTA in > >Austin held by SVRA this October: > > > > > >SVRA Competition Bulletin #CB2013-009 > > > > > >June 18, 2013 by SRVA > > > >Subject: SAFETY-Head and Neck Support Systems > >From: Raymond Snowdon, Competition Director > > > >SVRA Competition Bulletin #CB2013-009 > > /Competition_Bulletin_CB>2013- > >009.pdf> (PDF) > > > >The safety of all competitors is of primary concern to all of us at the > >Sportscar Vintage Racing Association. > > > >Following a number of incidents in various Vintage events during 2012 > >and the current 2013 season, SVRA has interviewed drivers and emergency > >personnel involved. One common statement has been made regarding each > >incident: $B!H(Bthe HANS system saved the driver.$B!I(B > > > >As a result of this information and feedback, SVRA feels immediate > >action is appropriate to continue being a leader in safety compliance for >drivers. > > > >Effective July 1, 2013, HEAD and NECK SUPPORT SYSTEMS that meet SFI > >38.1 Standards, are MANDATORY for all competitors in S.V.R.A. events. > > > >Information on these Systems can be found at: www.sfifoundation.com. Click: > >MANUFACTURERS, then click $B!H(B38.1$B!m(B. > > > >Pre War drivers will be currently exempt from this requirement, but > >drivers are urged to investigate, select, and use alternate head and > >neck support as currently benefiting enduro, karting and motorcycle road >racers. > > > >And from SFI Foundation: > > > >Specification 38.1 - Head and Neck Restraint Systems HANS Performance > >Products - HANS Device (All Series) com> > >Leatt Brace - MRX Device NecksGen Device > > Simpson R3 Device > > > >Simpson R3 Rage Device > >Simpson Hybrid Pro Device > >Simpson Hybrid Pro Rage Device > > > >Simpson Hybrid/Hybrid Rage Device > > > > > >Simpson Hybrid X Device > > > >Please note that there are products from other manufacturers such as > >DefNder, Leatt Brace, and Safety Solutions that were previously > >certified and labeled as meeting SFI 38.1. They are not currently > >listed on the SFI website because they are no longer in new production. > >However, any devices still in the field or at retail outlets that have > >SFI 38.1 stickers on them were properly tested and certified at the > >time. The certifications for those devices remain valid. > >_______________________________________________ > >fot@autox.team.net > > > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >Unsubscribe/Manage: > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com > >_______________________________________________ > >fot@autox.team.net > > > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >Unsubscribe/Manage: > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 30 11:25:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37EBB42716 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:25:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d06.mx.aol.com (omr-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92FD9403E8 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:25:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.138]) by omr-d06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 0FDD6700BC442; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:25:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mta005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mta005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.145]) by mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 8FCF5E000088; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:25:06 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:25:06 -0400 (EDT) To: tr4racing@googlemail.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375205106; bh=o8rtguUMXh5dHykRsSYh4BWS5kRLghArw8LLl4CS0gs=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bjm8zea5M2uSzrJUGNU5xBlzfVt/EEJ7veoFZ9k/ZWW0zsvHlWC2OUjxOX6Esi6ia b71XS/egUjvme40WS/H7uLdDPfTjEjQ7hcHh74JCRXS4gw9jrkI11Xvpkb5f0w9XPI URytKZeJEM0QhrZKddgK6qLueFv/p9/TqKAq3qqU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338a51f7f6f2011e Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS/Similar required at Nationals at COTA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 07/30/2013 11:51:19 AM Central Daylight Time, tr4racing@googlemail.com writes: > Is this also mandatory at RA? > VSCDA is the sanctioning body of ELVF (the Kastner Cup event), and their current position is that they encourage the use of the HANS device or similar, but they do not make wearing it mandatory. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 30 11:50:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E552542722 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:50:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m08.mx.aol.com (omr-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.222.129]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D26B406AD for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:45:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.3]) by omr-m08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6B125700B0815; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:45:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.116] (208-38-70-241.static.izoom.net [208.38.70.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id D006EE0000A1; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:45:13 -0400 (EDT) References: <039b01ce8d42$eb72a480$c257ed80$@fooddude.com> <0D6E79B9-FB45-4624-AD0E-0BDF187DC062@austin.rr.com> From: Jhouathome Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:45:13 -0500 To: Bob Kramer x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375206314; bh=GqVB9VedWzKYPtQN9irsaUBglazIlfpELjaAq6RqNv4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=vIAgVXmnne0JmK9XKt/I5pjMs0Em6WY4gxxqPr5eH9Ud4Y9Lm80R1sxbTbMPsEoKV vkSthKwKYmQ2O9ozcW7xT4FIAbEGzOYU1zoOzQ95zDhZbfPEbFL3/LAcaySKgcuVFI PDCYeKIqv4YnxrR9bBjJXN3w/x55WR6CvTeyI1eo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290351f7fba97d95 Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS/Similar required at Nationals at COTA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bob, At our VSCDA board meeting a couple weeks ago we revisited this issue. Currently our position is to "strongly recommend" the use of an approved system for all competitors. This has been our position and will remain our position at least for the immediate future. We will continue to evaluate this position over the coming months. While it will not be required to have a head and neck system at the K-cup, I recommend, in the strongest possible way, the use of one. If any of you has never tried one I can lend you one to try out at the KCup. I always have a spare in the trailer. No, I don't sell for HANS! I just train a lot of drivers, and have a reasonable amount of background in race related safety issues, and am a true believer in good safety equipment. John Houlton Sent from my iPad On Jul 30, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: > Are any FOT planning on coming to Austin for the first ever vintage race > weekend at the F1 track? (SVRA Oct 24-28) > > Bob Kramer > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 30, 2013, at 11:36 AM, "FoodDude" wrote: > >> Fot: >> >> For those of you traveling to the US Vintage Nationals at COTA in Austin >> held by SVRA this October: >> >> >> SVRA Competition Bulletin #CB2013-009 >> >> >> June 18, 2013 by SRVA >> >> Subject: SAFETY-Head and Neck Support Systems >> From: Raymond Snowdon, Competition Director >> >> SVRA Competition Bulletin #CB2013-009 > > 009.pdf> (PDF) >> >> The safety of all competitors is of primary concern to all of us at the >> Sportscar Vintage Racing Association. >> >> Following a number of incidents in various Vintage events during 2012 and >> the current 2013 season, SVRA has interviewed drivers and emergency >> personnel involved. One common statement has been made regarding each >> incident: bthe HANS system saved the driver.b >> >> As a result of this information and feedback, SVRA feels immediate action > is >> appropriate to continue being a leader in safety compliance for drivers. >> >> Effective July 1, 2013, HEAD and NECK SUPPORT SYSTEMS that meet SFI 38.1 >> Standards, are MANDATORY for all competitors in S.V.R.A. events. >> >> Information on these Systems can be found at: www.sfifoundation.com. Click: >> MANUFACTURERS, then click b38.1b3. >> >> Pre War drivers will be currently exempt from this requirement, but drivers >> are urged to investigate, select, and use alternate head and neck support > as >> currently benefiting enduro, karting and motorcycle road racers. >> >> And from SFI Foundation: >> >> Specification 38.1 - Head and Neck Restraint Systems >> HANS Performance Products - HANS Device (All Series) > > com> >> Leatt Brace - MRX Device >> NecksGen Device >> Simpson R3 Device >> Simpson R3 Rage Device >> Simpson Hybrid Pro Device >> Simpson Hybrid Pro Rage Device >> Simpson Hybrid/Hybrid Rage Device > >> >> Simpson Hybrid X Device >> >> Please note that there are products from other manufacturers such as >> DefNder, Leatt Brace, and Safety Solutions that were previously certified >> and labeled as meeting SFI 38.1. They are not currently listed on the SFI >> website because they are no longer in new production. However, any devices >> still in the field or at retail outlets that have SFI 38.1 stickers on them >> were properly tested and certified at the time. The certifications for > those >> devices remain valid. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhouathome@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 30 11:52:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC5642725 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:52:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BAFF42264 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:52:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta16.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.88]) by qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 6c2z1m0041uE5Es55hsH87; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:52:17 +0000 Received: from [10.80.131.84] ([166.147.82.239]) by omta16.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 6hrh1m00X59ojza3chrop9; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:52:12 +0000 References: <039b01ce8d42$eb72a480$c257ed80$@fooddude.com> <000301ce8d44$febd1460$fc373d20$@com> <51f7f12e.84e9440a.0c08.54c3SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> <000a01ce8d48$0d25dcf0$277196d0$@com> <20130730172156.DB3AE426B9@autox.team.net> From: Jim Gray Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:51:38 -0600 To: Tony Drews s=q20121106; t=1375206737; bh=jazBiCNQyCEOTasIDbg2YHN9J9gm2vE9sAvdA3AdkRs=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=M3TV4KwRBkH30higQrZncZwdJreBWr9VIE/gma4swHADB96sAw1qSvzv8NQXSEloF T+WglzD+31oAStJAnVyGPuAQBtm3nXgreGbC9/2i/cCiJdKcNDCALKGvH9I7hdnxO/ kHZv9R1pk30j5q5NEtELNjmQBC+76XQtIS9HbQ1Lkt8yPfj3KRPVD1EOwKAsorVykS HoaYVN3GCXz+/yf/S6ekiBUYZmIuxRWyW9Ne7cwno9HWyCSXCmti47wj4vHCkSl1Pc 1Ll/arKkiG0mpyluSK3SJUnNZbE5dt/aAN10g93KgdeXN+2sUgB2CDxJEYv6dq2W0P YD0SzP4QJPydg== Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS/Similar required at Nationals at COTA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Me too, Once your belted in you won't know you have it on unless you try to look over your shoulder. Jim g Sent from my iPhone On Jul 30, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > I highly recommend that safety equipment! > > Tony > > At 12:13 PM 7/30/2013, MadMarx wrote: >> To make sure I've just bought an HANS helmet and gear. >> >> >> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: Tony Drews [mailto:tony@tonydrews.com] >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. Juli 2013 19:00 >> An: MadMarx; fot@autox.team.net >> Betreff: Re: [Fot] HANS/Similar required at Nationals at COTA >> >> VSCDA website says the they recommend but do not require a HANS device (or >> approved equivalent). >> >> Tony D >> >> At 11:51 AM 7/30/2013, MadMarx wrote: >> >Is this also mandatory at RA? >> > >> > >> >-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- >> >Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im >> >Auftrag von FoodDude >> >Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. Juli 2013 18:36 >> >An: fot@autox.team.net >> >Betreff: [Fot] HANS/Similar required at Nationals at COTA >> > >> >Fot: >> > >> >For those of you traveling to the US Vintage Nationals at COTA in >> >Austin held by SVRA this October: >> > >> > >> >SVRA Competition Bulletin #CB2013-009 >> > >> > >> >June 18, 2013 by SRVA >> > >> >Subject: SAFETY-Head and Neck Support Systems >> >From: Raymond Snowdon, Competition Director >> > >> >SVRA Competition Bulletin #CB2013-009 >> >> /Competition_Bulletin_CB>2013- >> >009.pdf> (PDF) >> > >> >The safety of all competitors is of primary concern to all of us at the >> >Sportscar Vintage Racing Association. >> > >> >Following a number of incidents in various Vintage events during 2012 >> >and the current 2013 season, SVRA has interviewed drivers and emergency >> >personnel involved. One common statement has been made regarding each >> >incident: $B!H(Bthe HANS system saved the driver.$B!I(B >> > >> >As a result of this information and feedback, SVRA feels immediate >> >action is appropriate to continue being a leader in safety compliance for >> drivers. >> > >> >Effective July 1, 2013, HEAD and NECK SUPPORT SYSTEMS that meet SFI >> >38.1 Standards, are MANDATORY for all competitors in S.V.R.A. events. >> > >> >Information on these Systems can be found at: www.sfifoundation.com. > Click: >> >MANUFACTURERS, then click $B!H(B38.1$B!m(B. >> > >> >Pre War drivers will be currently exempt from this requirement, but >> >drivers are urged to investigate, select, and use alternate head and >> >neck support as currently benefiting enduro, karting and motorcycle road >> racers. >> > >> >And from SFI Foundation: >> > >> >Specification 38.1 - Head and Neck Restraint Systems HANS Performance >> >Products - HANS Device (All Series) com> >> >Leatt Brace - MRX Device NecksGen Device >> > Simpson R3 Device >> > >> >Simpson R3 Rage Device >> >Simpson Hybrid Pro Device >> >Simpson Hybrid Pro Rage Device >> > >> >Simpson Hybrid/Hybrid Rage Device >> > >> > >> >Simpson Hybrid X Device >> > >> >Please note that there are products from other manufacturers such as >> >DefNder, Leatt Brace, and Safety Solutions that were previously >> >certified and labeled as meeting SFI 38.1. They are not currently >> >listed on the SFI website because they are no longer in new production. >> >However, any devices still in the field or at retail outlets that have >> >SFI 38.1 stickers on them were properly tested and certified at the >> >time. The certifications for those devices remain valid. >> >_______________________________________________ >> >fot@autox.team.net >> > >> >http://www.fot-racing.com >> > >> >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com >> >_______________________________________________ >> >fot@autox.team.net >> > >> >http://www.fot-racing.com >> > >> >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 30 15:32:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E04E42729 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:32:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm26-vm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm26-vm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30A242264 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:32:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.165] by nm26.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jul 2013 21:31:59 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.48] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jul 2013 21:31:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp101.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jul 2013 21:31:59 -0000 XdX6H4DJa46gzGLpt9BxIv849ugOKO2Gtfm5SOo_dUPRL71EETbCZcOitt8K gUK7emsnU8L8tD.7UgWqiB6CeWt2fyJwGKKJpbI995Y3vIr9uFgoZATCNEsH mDncnaag5bHq_eCW7L90Ft02jIDdwil7IaDjGyBBR478VoJzQxFfQBoezSC1 kQLtzkxrtpFBUNC5JwoM5H5OuDZQrobjTK1VzFxbckLxg3NFxDBJDJEGxmqy JEIhy5epW5Y4824pw26q.QFer47qfFV7ajuVR0kTdUajq1sZ9TLbztw_H5de 6cC7Y2PXXWOesZuaKIY4xxDOp2JoFAl09i5P0qJ5ZECBJnV0aBs_Vrd31LOK vYVwpU40se1.lzwu2ljF8yk_.cWGLY44LnZ3_45z_B43opadcOtTCXRTgrSu OqadKFcSfw1HZjpqv0nbcT5XPd7_hMdLBXFvBqcc23X4vCYOVkGXAAfclezu MnqLc9XQCYpb4IQvkP2ciBmPcYn4DBpBr smtp101.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jul 2013 14:31:59 -0700 PDT From: "Rocky Entriken" To: "Jim Gray" , "Tony Drews" Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:32:34 -0500 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS/Similar required at Nationals at COTA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Entriken" To: "Jim Gray" ; "Tony Drews" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS/Similar required at Nationals at COTA To use a HANS, and similar devices, you need anchors in your helmet. Last time I bought a helmet I ordered it with the anchors installed. I didn't actually buy my HANS until two years later. And Jim's right ... in the heat of battle I never notice it (also my HANS has the slip-strap feature which lets you turn your head more) --Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Gray" To: "Tony Drews" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS/Similar required at Nationals at COTA Me too, Once your belted in you won't know you have it on unless you try to look over your shoulder. Jim g Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 30 16:07:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC45E42274 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:07:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com (mx2.netinteraction.com [174.143.201.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D838406AD for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:07:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTP id 72F18F441DF for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:07:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uTs4OiHBk8ye for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:07:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com (75-128-248-175.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com [75.128.248.175]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTPA id 2963CF447A6 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:07:33 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net From: Peter Caldwell References: Subject: Re: [Fot] Gather on the Green. Looking for FOT RACECARS to display Saturday afternoon. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net At 02:20 PM 7/29/2013, Joe Alexander wrote: > > This is a No Charge feature for registered drivers and cars. > >You ARE invited to make a small donation to a worthy cause. > > > We want every Triumph RACECAR we can get downtown. +++++++++++++++++ Donations are for a future Super Fund site........ ;-) Peter C _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 30 16:14:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5761D42727 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:14:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A245C406AE for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:08:52 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=QkQr9JiF3fNmj8T65CEbVg==:17 a=PhvkTJGFuIYA:10 a=IR_XmdXcJG8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=Lm1D473rSvwA:10 a=rpB1CqzKAAAA:8 a=FvTowB9aAAAA:8 a=qYthAC8ZAAAA:8 a=zLP5QQjbAAAA:8 a=1v-anckAAAAA:8 a=gmYAMOt7AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=x3B_kdJve5vXSjiGEeMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=E6k37eg1NvgA:10 a=ztUPYMzusQ0A:10 a=Yx0V01CFt0cA:10 a=QkQr9JiF3fNmj8T65CEbVg==:117 Received: from [166.137.149.162] ([166.137.149.162:50070] helo=[10.242.89.205]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 27/FC-14128-27938F15; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 22:08:51 +0000 References: <039b01ce8d42$eb72a480$c257ed80$@fooddude.com> <0D6E79B9-FB45-4624-AD0E-0BDF187DC062@austin.rr.com> From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:08:48 -0500 To: Bob Kramer Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS/Similar required at Nationals at COTA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bob, To answer your question, yes. Pops and I will be there, but you knew that. I would like to know who all from the group plans to be there. Alison and I are not that far from the track and can possibly host some folks if needed. Greg On Jul 30, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: > Are any FOT planning on coming to Austin for the first ever vintage race > weekend at the F1 track? (SVRA Oct 24-28) > > Bob Kramer > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 30, 2013, at 11:36 AM, "FoodDude" wrote: > >> Fot: >> >> For those of you traveling to the US Vintage Nationals at COTA in Austin >> held by SVRA this October: >> >> >> SVRA Competition Bulletin #CB2013-009 >> >> >> June 18, 2013 by SRVA >> >> Subject: SAFETY-Head and Neck Support Systems >> From: Raymond Snowdon, Competition Director >> >> SVRA Competition Bulletin #CB2013-009 > > 009.pdf> (PDF) >> >> The safety of all competitors is of primary concern to all of us at the >> Sportscar Vintage Racing Association. >> >> Following a number of incidents in various Vintage events during 2012 and >> the current 2013 season, SVRA has interviewed drivers and emergency >> personnel involved. One common statement has been made regarding each >> incident: bthe HANS system saved the driver.b >> >> As a result of this information and feedback, SVRA feels immediate action > is >> appropriate to continue being a leader in safety compliance for drivers. >> >> Effective July 1, 2013, HEAD and NECK SUPPORT SYSTEMS that meet SFI 38.1 >> Standards, are MANDATORY for all competitors in S.V.R.A. events. >> >> Information on these Systems can be found at: www.sfifoundation.com. Click: >> MANUFACTURERS, then click b38.1b3. >> >> Pre War drivers will be currently exempt from this requirement, but drivers >> are urged to investigate, select, and use alternate head and neck support > as >> currently benefiting enduro, karting and motorcycle road racers. >> >> And from SFI Foundation: >> >> Specification 38.1 - Head and Neck Restraint Systems >> HANS Performance Products - HANS Device (All Series) > > com> >> Leatt Brace - MRX Device >> NecksGen Device >> Simpson R3 Device >> Simpson R3 Rage Device >> Simpson Hybrid Pro Device >> Simpson Hybrid Pro Rage Device >> Simpson Hybrid/Hybrid Rage Device > >> >> Simpson Hybrid X Device >> >> Please note that there are products from other manufacturers such as >> DefNder, Leatt Brace, and Safety Solutions that were previously certified >> and labeled as meeting SFI 38.1. They are not currently listed on the SFI >> website because they are no longer in new production. However, any devices >> still in the field or at retail outlets that have SFI 38.1 stickers on them >> were properly tested and certified at the time. The certifications for > those >> devices remain valid. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 30 19:20:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C5742264 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:20:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A8FA40325 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:20:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.87]) by qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 6oMx1m0041swQuc59pLKLE; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 01:20:19 +0000 Received: from sz0005.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 6pLJ1m01n2xV5no3bpLJhX; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 01:20:19 +0000 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 01:20:18 +0000 (UTC) From: 19to1tr6@comcast.net To: Larry Young s=q20121106; t=1375233619; bh=hFFu4xLIjqGFvvEHxW9o97VS9UtMf9DHaPhYnTkfJcc=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=VBgeS80zosnAfcPojMGDIV2byqIJEJ7KPceGXjPaTRy4qYWXWCU4L07ukJovRabJj ePROZr4l1e3QuCX56JEoNWTz5VWbZCtx/A7ItkQevfOrOiELs7CHUiLpSwNz2XyoyV du2ySvlnn5+NO7G7uA+9hVxr5wbydGFRYg2adWf86YaJAI63sdxYyEhmHT3ykY9LVc sTww8DZIDDB43OxR/TtmSOIxsabbFMuPacCGo7N7KgiULMLo/4k7CAS4uuibHe82Js 1O1CRdybtCFDplsTzJKln6xekBcpupH5wTxFWcqj2NuVPMWcQcDQD3XqINtlPQwYyA wiPiG2OFtK9Cg== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] A type O.D. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks to everyone in response to the OD issues.I finally have a grip on how it works Currently the Atype is working fine with the car on jack stands. The articalesB atB vtr.org are a grate helpB B robB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Young" To: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 3:04:50 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] A type O.D. Steve and Randall, We didn't include that warning, because I had never heard of coil bind occurring in these units. B I tested the springs with a valve spring gauge with a range that didn't allow me to reach coil bind. The accumulator springs or so stiff (over 500 lb/in) a couple of hardware store washers will increase the pressure about 50 psi. B I shimmed a large accumulator OD to about 525 psi with no problems. When the coil bind happened, what was the shim thickness and what pressure were you at? B Was it a large or small accumulator? B I will add a warning when we update the article, but would like the details. B I suppose this would suggest that you need to bench test it at a speed which is high enough to activate the relief valve. Otherwise, you have no idea what pressure you will have at speed. Larry On 7/29/2013 1:31 AM, Randall wrote: > It's a very good article; and yet I wish it had included a copy of Steve's > warning. B I found out the hard way. > > The pressure on the bench and in the car looked fine at lower rpm. B But the > spring was reaching coil bind at higher rpm and the resulting pressure > literally bent the bars that the pistons ride against, before eventually > forcing the clutch assembly out of the carrier. B That big circlip looked > like a pretzel; and the clutch assembly was pretty much ruined. B The excess > pressure may also have something to do with the thrust washer exploding, and > the case being about .080" longer afterSwards. > > FWIW, I turned my own adapter for the pressure gauge; a fun but practical > lathe project. B You can use the plug as a pattern for the OD end, then just > drill & tap a hole for the pressure gauge (mine was 1/4 NPT). > > Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/19to1tr6@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 31 06:04:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D823403E4 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:04:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446F8403C6 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:04:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.28.17]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MQS00K6BUUTTX80@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:04:06 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 08:04:05 -0400 Subject: [Fot] HANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net My 2 cents worth: If you aren't wearing a HANS, or similar device, you should be. They aren't restrictive, and are easy to get in and out of. And give a measure of confidence and safety. At around $700, they aren't cheap, but that would about pay for one day in ICU. After the guy crashed and was injured at Watkins Glen in June, I talked to someone involved in the extrication and was told his injuries would probably have been worse than leg injuries had he not been wearing the HANS. Ya pays your money and takes your chances, but I try and keep as safe as possible. Cheers, Bill _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 31 07:38:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77BF242720 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:38:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m07.mx.aol.com (omr-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF75403C7 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:37:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.6]) by omr-m07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 12260700362D1; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:37:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id C0415E000109; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:37:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 08:37:53 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375277875; bh=gTZDv2DUyivKzVDl4d4cap8knbyxY7qtf3SnRwdbYU4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=U8gDqoP0P7xem5urlfxCZTzlLxMixcUGk61X5ec/vPk3u//m0NNZ9EgBbXQ3Jb7pf 1LxQ4hDOA8wbWToUPJBu3rdJe61tNTe+qGBf3X/S6axI0gGMH4nNJhTCVDD2dBePh+ KgMBAF7yEAEoy0EhjumezNY/gwupI0Z5XVWsJjBA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290651f91332199a Cc: deb korneli Subject: [Fot] TR250K commits to the Gather on the Green Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Triumph Race Cars wanted at the GOG The GOG on Saturday afternoon is a very special event and we are featured. It would be good if the FOT could attend both the Old Course Reenactment and the GOG Car Show afterwards. If you would, please send in your submission to GOG. Even if, for any reason, you are unable to to stay for the GOG, it's OK. Our FOT centerpiece will be the TR250K, courtesy of BIll Hart and Tony Garmey. Anyway, your submittals will be appreciated by VSCDA and well received. I am sure the FOT will make a good showing. Joe A _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 31 07:52:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F784271F for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:52:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qe0-f46.google.com (mail-qe0-f46.google.com [209.85.128.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54CE640067 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:52:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qe0-f46.google.com with SMTP id i11so378240qej.5 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:52:13 -0700 (PDT) h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:content-language:thread-index; bh=Ng9BKqMpskPFnpMZB0eviua9F2MrkxWBQSWI32FJeoE=; b=ADQ7/xpXj8iyueidqUlvENBjsgQpqi2j6ybf7OsE6T599iMh0OIiOofeZZLEu+yIrn 2CMVuCAiII4eh2l94yXkUE44a0waIhUW5rqV/FBd1BXZRjqLtMrUtIDUui/mD2YNxvsx 3d6Z+ChyMIWEUX7Lv0hRwpvhBsubriJoPojm5osO5fFOEMfceLWlh2+UzQmV4zdz9aWv 6O0XEoqn1tm7cx+6QTOficpfJdU23sTKXCsT/1lr/aNf/rDRlddr1bhYCDuyY8b71aNx hdunerGF1IF6lWgOxNpwxNWuKp3qyA/n68xfg1DO/tQeK4vct+zsq9P+WtQ3PsycRULz ZV8A== Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Quad3400 (cpe-67-240-51-24.nycap.res.rr.com. [67.240.51.24]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id j11sm5094636qaa.7.2013.07.31.06.52.11 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:52:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "Clark W. Nicholls" To: "Fot" Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:52:08 -0400 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: Ac6N9SW+w+yp0txLQOii+ljZfocDcg== Subject: [Fot] Pittsburgh VGP photo sequence Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mark Sherman lost the LR wheel on his MGTD. Make sure your nuts are tight! http://www.globalrailways.net/#!607-crash-turn-20/cvt0 Clark Clark W. Nicholls 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) www.botchagaloop.net for old racing photos "Reality, it's not what you think." _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 31 08:22:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3925403D3 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 08:22:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f173.google.com (mail-ob0-f173.google.com [209.85.214.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30AD403BA for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 08:21:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f173.google.com with SMTP id ta17so1458068obb.18 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:21:58 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kU6CKtPe0CAU02yJ0Jmp4OTUi10Jluz5gyvZtOCqpU8=; b=SdJEErRtPjze+8NZkVYDISUt/9Yyx9C3z1Kd2y7L1gQNfY99Um0c+aJoolfwy6ahg0 /pH2b3ophCR1xYsBEIUgwChJS9yLzWnMpjU7eqcMmFbPmEnA+uuRTpq4u+tgPbVJnZsG SoGsypjQRLyV5xJoV7GrnpL5ooMKypW7EQEjII0hU5tvniofrHgRu2YJuYE39PgiGzId xJMocHKWbkThyimN9Tbim5+7HRdvbhgYJwSHRTN2Za/47ffp17ArS/M85XBTe2TKcPLT /+XjLHCPg/1EicUFraDnrzmZF/vdED2bWHlQlvz6WB38DRIIq2ZEDk+2V71b0R5mEpUv FYYw== h16mr11668321oem.2.1375280518002; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:21:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (24-121-172-242.npg.sta.suddenlink.net. [24.121.172.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ps5sm1370435oeb.8.2013.07.31.07.21.56 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:21:54 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <008801ce8df5$26a6c290$73f447b0$@com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Pittsburgh VGP photo sequence Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 7/31/13 6:52 AM, Clark W. Nicholls wrote: > Mark Sherman lost the LR wheel on his MGTD. > Make sure your nuts are tight! > > http://www.globalrailways.net/#!607-crash-turn-20/cvt0 > Thankfully the damage appears minimal and no one got hurt. I got concerned when I saw the picture of the MG at rest broadside to the track on the back side of the turn. Hooray for flagmen. Looks like the fixings that held the rear hub to the axle came undone. A fold over tab washer or cotter pin failure? I have no idea how a rear MG drive hub goes on. Is there supposed to be a stub axle there? (picture # 26) Just wondering what the failure actually was. TeriAnn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 31 08:28:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B83403E4 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 08:28:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D58403DD for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 08:27:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.71]) by qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 72RT1m0031Y3wxoAA2Tq5z; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:27:50 +0000 Received: from Bud ([67.164.120.205]) by omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 72Tp1m00o4RzRTX8b2TqV5; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:27:50 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "'TeriAnn J. Wakeman'" , References: <008801ce8df5$26a6c290$73f447b0$@com> <51F91D82.4000603@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:27:49 -0700 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: Ac6N+dPLCPcbkphjQCOZ/fK5wZnRigAACiKA s=q20121106; t=1375280870; bh=VrO6GiwrdUuklC9152dSe/VfiYSFzYHsvmStPcKYNcc=; h=Received:Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YaAaD3og1XAfAU2QHu0inR7YjN6ybjM4Y+M1nmjA6zgNGGgYZwvtHOw+niCYRXqhl GVFtMIIPUUq4VnA3I7Fh+hbl+zDodt10uZaC4RGCXtrftTIw3iICsqhaZ9oiGxa6fU mwGNvYjcu8QXMkvJSEkaHQZ1OtLnOAM6mvkCd1+TxtHX/JVS0KzNbmUww7ghgrWaKb HtrXf3uo76oQUQexMsXtKA0oT5sxOSb4s7dYMbZ7a1egCMXvxPk3SkJBbF1v2cK8Hx Wc3mk5Bn+ObAGy76jHHCTPA5oeCHlpXz4RBcN9gVDwxUbnQ/rhg+VN6Js+F81eyqbB cdD71kkkxB7sw== Subject: Re: [Fot] Pittsburgh VGP photo sequence Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That happened to me twice on my street MGTD many years ago RB -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:22 AM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Pittsburgh VGP photo sequence On 7/31/13 6:52 AM, Clark W. Nicholls wrote: > Mark Sherman lost the LR wheel on his MGTD. > Make sure your nuts are tight! > > http://www.globalrailways.net/#!607-crash-turn-20/cvt0 > Thankfully the damage appears minimal and no one got hurt. I got concerned when I saw the picture of the MG at rest broadside to the track on the back side of the turn. Hooray for flagmen. Looks like the fixings that held the rear hub to the axle came undone. A fold over tab washer or cotter pin failure? I have no idea how a rear MG drive hub goes on. Is there supposed to be a stub axle there? (picture # 26) Just wondering what the failure actually was. TeriAnn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 31 08:55:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A0142720 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 08:55:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E90D403D3 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 08:55:15 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=qZqGDTaqHSsA:10 a=8QAkH7ySJstIRw-PNdUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=dn2eFxy2kao7xtaF:21 a=Epxhj9-bPV0cB0Ln:21 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55007] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 24/E6-09254-25529F15; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:55:15 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Larry Young'" Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:55:22 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6NjDOKCfJxFSb3RmSYTHSMqWpkhgAan7bg Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] A type O.D. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > We didn't include that warning, because I had never heard of coil bind > occurring in these units. B I tested the springs with a valve spring > gauge with a range that didn't allow me to reach coil bind. The > accumulator springs or so stiff (over 500 lb/in) a couple of hardware > store washers will increase the pressure about 50 psi. B I shimmed a > large accumulator OD to about 525 psi with no problems. When the coil > bind happened, what was the shim thickness and what pressure were you > at? B Was it a large or small accumulator? B I will add a > warning when we > update the article, but would like the details. I'm sorry, Larry, I don't recall the thickness of washers. Maybe around 3/16". It was a large accumulator, and I had shimmed it from around 300 (no shims) to around 450 psi (original TR4 workshop manual says that 490-510 "is required" even though the Bentley gives 380-400)). At 300, the OD wouldn't always grab in 2nd gear, so I knew that was too low. After the damage was discovered, I loaded the main spring (which I believe was original to the unit, but with a whole lotta miles on it) into a hydraulic press and measured the length with it compressed solid. Combined with all the other measurements, I believe that the spring was reaching coil bind with the ports uncovered only about 1/4 of the way. The relief ports were definitely opening enough to flow some oil during bench testing, but as I'm sure you are aware, the pump output volume is a direct function of shaft rpm and they were apparently not able to open far enough to handle the entire pump output at higher rpm. I was also using cheap motor oil during bench testing (saving the MT-90 for the road) so it's possible the oil change had some impact as well. Nelson also wrote about finding coil bind, but he found it on the bench with around 1/4" of shims. It just hadn't occurred to me that it was possible for the vent holes to be only partially uncovered when the spring bound. I'm pretty sure that "root cause" is that my spring was old and sagged from it's original dimensions. Unfortunately, I didn't have a new one on hand to compare against (or I would have just installed the new one). At the time, they were backordered at all US vendors (and the one I ordered from the UK didn't come in for over a month). (Moss actually changed the part number and doubled the price, so I'm guessing that a new manufacturer had to be found.) -- Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 31 09:53:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E644271C for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:53:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d09.mx.aol.com (omr-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8BE403E4 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:51:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.201]) by omr-d09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 3212C700000A8; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:51:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dtb002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dtb002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.162.197]) by mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id DEA1DE000088; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:51:24 -0400 (EDT) References: <008801ce8df5$26a6c290$73f447b0$@com> To: cwnfot@gmail.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Bruce Lapierre Received: from 71.28.54.255 by webmail-m236.sysops.aol.com (64.12.107.166) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:51:24 -0400 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:51:24 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375285885; bh=hugvl89pR0A7X2y6hD/NnyMz3susYL6TbofmTz2IIH8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kacH+dLQv5o7zNcifZit8cSBzcu0V917lzgWp1eK6xAbFgmQInxIOzPLEFvh+vj/w BkEF9/jv2s2vp6+ByHKw7pV5UHWMZ99n8mIygB5DIsOps/Nu/QYPcfKLpsQphSimmu cW7xosdduoN+ZMEbPju6+zTzXHl6sbG/OMtTvBlM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c951f9327c2234 Subject: Re: [Fot] Pittsburgh VGP photo sequence Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bet his were tight when the tire passed him. -----Original Message----- From: Clark W. Nicholls To: Fot Sent: Wed, Jul 31, 2013 9:52 am Subject: [Fot] Pittsburgh VGP photo sequence Mark Sherman lost the LR wheel on his MGTD. ake sure your nuts are tight! http://www.globalrailways.net/#!607-crash-turn-20/cvt0 Clark lark W. Nicholls 974 Spitfire (FM14571U) ww.botchagaloop.net for old racing photos Reality, it's not what you think." ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttr4@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 31 10:25:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9EF54041A for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:25:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s27.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s27.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37EF9403E4 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:21:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU173-W26 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s27.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:21:30 -0700 From: Henry Morrison To: fot Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:21:30 -0600 References: <008801ce8df5$26a6c290$73f447b0$@com>, <51F91D82.4000603@gmail.com> FILETIME=[040AB1F0:01CE8E0A] Subject: Re: [Fot] Pittsburgh VGP photo sequence Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net He must also have a dual master cylinder as his fronts are locking up and the loss of the drum would probably kiss off the brakes on a single system. At least I would think so? Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque > > > > http://www.globalrailways.net/#!607-crash-turn-20/cvt0 > > > Thankfully the damage appears minimal and no one got hurt. I got > concerned when I saw the picture of the MG at rest broadside to the > track on the back side of the turn. Hooray for flagmen. > > Looks like the fixings that held the rear hub to the axle came undone. > A fold over tab washer or cotter pin failure? > > I have no idea how a rear MG drive hub goes on. Is there supposed to be > a stub axle there? (picture # 26) > > Just wondering what the failure actually was. > > TeriAnn > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dos_gusanos@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 31 11:25:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68EDB42715 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:25:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f51.google.com (mail-oa0-f51.google.com [209.85.219.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BDD0403A8 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:21:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id h2so2130965oag.10 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:21:09 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=dMZdfmXFanUGu6eNkiqSCVHYl+cutK4UbBBv696S56w=; b=yNh2Kzk0ERqD9rEkwBo63Mu22lxqa/b+nJACGkmUMJhoQoF5opIdqdKAFtiKAff0pv YDstcgCvOvmNDn7jadjTly5OCn/ChfS4NPzclhIN/hm4o7t45bkdfnm50WQuWQ+yLwhY nWPBEjkMzJSckEXyHCGGC1BBdMgx6CLq1+lJSbTr3Xgbql7ykjQ++2Td5Kxq6pxYMMFQ IK91N940/3oqZail19Qv2pw3Iu04uxejmystVmas/UZDwZ3fPI1N07iDpJerxi3PUF8b euy5acY0DMrCvWK1T7fLnFXRfrxFJj+5WPygqYCL2ZciJIhW6AP+xtLVQ10qEIsjNRr8 dpug== Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.8.169 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:20:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Marshall Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:20:29 -0400 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Steering wheel lock Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have a Stag/Buick that I want to sell to help fund the racing budget, but the steering wheel lock is engaged and won't release, even when I turn the key on and off multiple times. Short of knocking out the lock mechanism, does anyone know any tricks to get it free. I have the key and it turns freely, but nothing releases. I don't have a battery in the car but I can't imagine electricity is required for the lock mechanism. I'm guessing the lock is the same on all the TRs so hopefully someone has experienced this and fixed it. Any ideas? Thanks, Don _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 31 11:44:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B5BA42730 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:44:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mercury.fastbytes.com (mercury.fastbytes.com [216.183.230.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62FE340408 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:44:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from TimDellVostro [192.200.136.236] by mercury.fastbytes.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.00) id ACF1D20102; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:44:17 -0500 From: "Tim Murphy" To: "'Don Marshall'" , "'Friends of Triumph'" References: Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:43:56 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac6OEzeu3kPBYF+/R6287Lu0w6dd5AAAgAaA Content-Language: en-us Organization: FastBytesWireless Inc. Subject: Re: [Fot] Steering wheel lock Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Not sure if this will help. The ignition key/lock on my '98 BMW does the same thing on occasion and I think it's just when the steering wheel has "pressure" against it. Turning the steering wheel so it isn't up against the lock mechanism then allows the key to work. Tim -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don Marshall Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:20 PM To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Steering wheel lock I have a Stag/Buick that I want to sell to help fund the racing budget, but the steering wheel lock is engaged and won't release, even when I turn the key on and off multiple times. Short of knocking out the lock mechanism, does anyone know any tricks to get it free. I have the key and it turns freely, but nothing releases. I don't have a battery in the car but I can't imagine electricity is required for the lock mechanism. I'm guessing the lock is the same on all the TRs so hopefully someone has experienced this and fixed it. Any ideas? Thanks, Don _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph@fastbytes.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 31 11:50:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FDCE42731 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:50:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E569040408 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:48:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.28.17]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MQT00GS3AT1OI50@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:48:39 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Bruce Lapierre" , , References: <008801ce8df5$26a6c290$73f447b0$@com> <8D05C1CF19223A3-704-12195@webmail-m236.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:48:36 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] Pittsburgh VGP photo sequence Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net How about the guy behind him with an airborne wheel/tire in the area! I think the race was red flagged. I was watching by the hay bale chicane when this happened. Lots of action there too. Glad car and driver are OK. Esp. the driver. Also no spectators involved; lots of folks watch at this area. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Lapierre" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Pittsburgh VGP photo sequence > Bet his were tight when the tire passed him. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Clark W. Nicholls > To: Fot > Sent: Wed, Jul 31, 2013 9:52 am > Subject: [Fot] Pittsburgh VGP photo sequence > > > Mark Sherman lost the LR wheel on his MGTD. > ake sure your nuts are tight! > http://www.globalrailways.net/#!607-crash-turn-20/cvt0 > Clark > lark W. Nicholls > 974 Spitfire (FM14571U) > ww.botchagaloop.net for old racing photos > Reality, it's not what you think." > ______________________________________________ > ot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > rchive: http://www.team.net/archive > orums: http://www.team.net/forums > nsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttr4@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 31 12:14:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0849542732 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:14:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m05.mx.aol.com (omr-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BCC140400 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:14:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.195]) by omr-m05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 3AF5C700A6B81 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:14:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id EC60DE0000B4; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:14:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:14:12 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375294456; bh=1rqjPc0TMWe1dzrbIkTVMkGuvaM6djLnjxzDgYr0JrY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=uuvPh5VaSYQAadOrbroa4xWeciltJ5Fz7rL4HEcHHxhTbsglwShiOg1cQhZxgz0fB wRwUwlcG+Bq5J3xi/X43Zdu34NPS/3Eioy8Nns9TgzCfnmQaQ4SFC9aVvp3uzAcnLa g1Nn1QpzDJAAzgvvqFZkD8ra/v9obsKf0teSGBzw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c351f953f735eb Cc: jackwoehrle@aol.com Subject: [Fot] VSCDA Group Assignments. Jack Woehrle Technical Director. Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I am pleased to announce a contact for any questions regarding your Group Assignment. I have known Jack for 20 years and have worked closely with him during that time. We have a few "non-vintage" cars coming. There will be a regular run group for all of them. (I expect no one to end up in Exhibition) Jack will be reviewing your specifications and placing you in an appropriate group for the ELVF. As a courtesy to the Featured Marque, there is some latitude. If you have any questions regarding your car, please contact Jack. If you have an SCCA car, he would expect you to run it in your usual configuration. Please check with him, as he will be the final authority. The expectation beyond that is that you will comply with VSCDA technical inspection requirements. This is the domain of VSCDA and Dave Young. Please contact VSCDA if you have any concerns about your ability to pass tech. As already discussed, HANS devices are strongly recommended, but not required. Get your entries in now so we can deal with details that might arise. Thanks! Joe A _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 31 13:01:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC5142730 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:01:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CFAC403DD for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:00:59 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=uN3a57_-eVEA:10 a=wkxU99YvAAAA:8 a=qfRHGCtTt2mKcrhfcZ4A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=LkqSDAR4Yp4A:10 a=6A/OvQor+YwyjOO4FWhaEA==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.161] ([10.127.132.161:48691] helo=cdptpa-web10-z02) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id DD/D4-14128-AEE59F15; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:00:58 +0000 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:00:58 +0000 From: Randall To: Friends of Triumph , Don Marshall Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [Fot] Steering wheel lock Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Don Marshall wrote: > I have a Stag/Buick that I want to sell to help fund the racing budget, but > the steering wheel lock is engaged and won't release, even when I turn the > key on and off multiple times. Short of knocking out the lock mechanism, > does anyone know any tricks to get it free. I have the key and it turns > freely, but nothing releases. I don't have a battery in the car but I > can't imagine electricity is required for the lock mechanism. I'm guessing > the lock is the same on all the TRs so hopefully someone has experienced > this and fixed it. Any ideas? Definitely try turning the wheel first. My guess though is that you will have to remove the lock mechanism. Take off the plastic shroud around it (3 screws up from the bottom IIRC). If you are lucky, someone has already replaced the "security" bolts through the lock mechanism, but if not, use a Dremel and a cutoff blade to slot the heads. Or just grind the heads off. The bolts are a standard thread (1/4-20?), so just replace them with hex head bolts and maybe a flat & lock washer. They aren't visible once the shroud is installed. Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 31 13:28:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D013042730 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:28:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d07.mx.aol.com (omr-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A641240408 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:26:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.2]) by omr-d07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A9213700CC131; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:26:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id A6D75E0006AD; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:25:59 -0400 (EDT) References: <001601ce8df4$bb8c16e0$32a444a0$@klaenv.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:25:57 -0500 To: Kenneth Knight , fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375298760; bh=+ll8wckqMisSpOMLQjX6AIL5ZETWMd2srbqwYYNaT0w=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=LLcJdIL5rwwMQ5HR+mOQ9ipssfoFtNaQ0rbmYFqQWpH+FkOUo1zTiEYXIglvFFTzp 1M0ZMffgcGvSm+SjNYjLcXlzrioAZI9hUrqabU01dkpCKpsoOuUFG3KIa3G8D+wPsi li2U/jNFjE7dkA30zILfx3PS6Ih1+tzl11HgbPx4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290251f964c758f7 Subject: Re: [Fot] GOG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ken, There is a police escort to and from the track for the Old Course Reenactment. This is a great feature that you will want to take advantage of. They do this at Watkins Glen and it is enormous fun. But it is a lot easier to do at Road America and the village. Unfortunately, you are correct, if you stay for the GOG you have to make arrangements to trailer your race car back to the track. Some of us have single axle trailers and some cars are licensed and insured. Thanks for asking and thinking of this. We already appreciate the fact that we have so many folks crossing the Continental Divide. Joe A Sent from my iPad On Jul 31, 2013, at 8:49 AM, "Kenneth Knight" wrote: > Joe: > > Do I recall correctly that if you go to the GOG with you race car you have to trailer it back? I would love to take the car but getting out my rig and loading that car is a ton of work. My car is not registered or legal for the street, nor does it have a muffler. > > Ken _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 31 13:43:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE33042737 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:43:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C999540400 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:37:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 76re1m00416AWCUA47dKkK; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:37:19 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.35] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 77dJ1m0064L5TyG8S7dJez; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:37:19 +0000 From: Bud R To: FoT Triumph Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:37:17 -0600 s=q20121106; t=1375299439; bh=cusJimckSogvFrr2meIsn+ABm0QThgQ0Z4nRuFIXRcI=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=bykrGK/naQvoJ/ILqFqHI2iL97D6ZroveX7lBlj+cwJp/3xuG4w9X5i/V2OeQRvS2 V6M3lObiNeU/NoDJhKHx5bzlSvi/5kEUnSTFhPC9yDF/D/hRlqNoaSjOWNR+Olt6/I O8rjKJsAXsheIWrIkkKoNEsk+n9MU2VJWLCyaRacHKvqCsYLDYlHnlCkeV/kmpfYw1 i6YfUYVfAWxQUwzDI6M+muNZ5WJKmtK4o27wA4WORbp10F3blMddrsnl/ZvMk6VLIA owC3yE9/3QebzlpvKj6C+yrQiJWoKbAOr8JA4jOIDaRwJDVVyWJ7PiLgD74UffOPiQ uhwh9kPNQaXtg== Subject: [Fot] Loss of power over 4000 RPMs? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mark Eden was good enough to let me drive his #42 Spitfire at High Plains Raceway this last weekend but we just couldn't get it to run correctly once the RPM got over 4000 when under load on the track. It was fine in the paddock and on the grid reving easily to over 4000 RPM but once I got on the track and under load it lost power and the dual EGT gage on the #1 cylinder exhaust would drop to zero while the EGT gage was reading 1100-1200 degrees on the #4 cylinder exhaust. Basically the #1, and maybe the #2 also, cylinder was not firing at all. It certainly felt like only 2 out of 4 were firing but since only two exhaust pipes are monitored with the EGT system I couldn't verify that. We checked fuel pressure, fuel lines, spark plugs, changed rotor, wires, distributor cap, relashed valves, checked timing, and few other things I probably forgot but no joy. It dropped power going straight, on curves, uphill and downhill, but once I got to the hot pits and paddock under 4000 RPM it would come to life and the EGT gage read the same on both sides. So what else could it be? Advance mechanism in the distributor bad? Valve float (we visually inspected them to see if any were broke)? And why under load would something like this suddenly manifest itself when there's no sign of a problem when not under load? And only on 1 or 2 cylinders? Thanks for any suggestions. Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 31 14:12:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F16242734 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:12:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f45.google.com (mail-oa0-f45.google.com [209.85.219.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF55E40403 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:07:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id m1so2487478oag.18 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:07:43 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=5Hvll+iizFRD521stnx188/ftXFkTJDgYLkhNwY8nJk=; b=DRImFQXrQZ+f/5Jblhtd/GN3XTKTfH3FaI6ve2kfqhN7nKKJD9gGB3bcakMB5zaQmN qSn6lTqdLaBagYJyMeNQKBiu8+OU6drSJJmi6A2meNFm0cgMCornPyDvtU1WIbetx6fp UVfWsb7s8X5mIBxPm3CNE+zgs+loaDbzRBlLvX/sCzBa0iQ2U4bO+gVzW653TYixMwkA pbHVbKGjzqK/AHiGk1rSxhveY6YgRd8S5+Xcc4p18I/mKHtIbTiEvXmdXHkyIxX9N0tc KaQxNRhP7ciOs9ijuGLRsFT4R0oZJBplq7+jdswmECTOlz8S2noGHEai326tmlWtErch QDlA== tu3mr2571295obb.32.1375301263633; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:07:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r4sm3022302oem.3.2013.07.31.13.07.41 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:07:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:07:39 -0500 References: <3D7856B4-8294-4071-A512-A35BAB361A69@comcast.net> To: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Loss of power over 4000 RPMs? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bud, I think the important clue is probably the increase in fuel demand at speed which suggests fuel restriction instead of loss of spark. Is the #1 EGT reading still zero when revving over 4000 when the engine is NOT under load? As a quick check you might try putting an induction timing light on each of the front two plug wires and observe the strobe to see whether the signal stops when the engine is revving over 4000. That would suggest that something is mechanically affecting the ignition but this seems unlikely given that this happens on a straight where there are no constant G-loads felt by the engine. If the timing light method doesn't tell you anything you might try removing a spark plug, laying it on the engine to ground it and then running the engine up over 4000, observing the spark, or lack thereof. You didn't say whether the engine is using two carburetors, but if that is the case, I would remove the float needle valve in the front carb and flush everything in the vicinity thoroughly. There might be a tiny piece of crud stuck in the carb inlet which lies in wait until vibration and increased flow moves it downstream enough to restrict flow. Do you happen to know whether the orifices leading to the front carb's float chamber are any different from the ones leading to the rear carb's? Duncan On Jul 31, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Bud R wrote: > Mark Eden was good enough to let me drive his #42 Spitfire at High > Plains Raceway this last weekend but we just couldn't get it to run > correctly once the RPM got over 4000 when under load on the track. It > was fine in the paddock and on the grid reving easily to over 4000 RPM > but once I got on the track and under load it lost power and the dual > EGT gage on the #1 cylinder exhaust would drop to zero while the EGT > gage was reading 1100-1200 degrees on the #4 cylinder exhaust. > Basically the #1, and maybe the #2 also, cylinder was not firing at > all. It certainly felt like only 2 out of 4 were firing but since only > two exhaust pipes are monitored with the EGT system I couldn't verify > that. > > We checked fuel pressure, fuel lines, spark plugs, changed rotor, > wires, distributor cap, relashed valves, checked timing, and few other > things I probably forgot but no joy. It dropped power going straight, > on curves, uphill and downhill, but once I got to the hot pits and > paddock under 4000 RPM it would come to life and the EGT gage read the > same on both sides. > > So what else could it be? Advance mechanism in the distributor bad? > Valve float (we visually inspected them to see if any were broke)? And > why under load would something like this suddenly manifest itself when > there's no sign of a problem when not under load? And only on 1 or 2 > cylinders? > > Thanks for any suggestions. > Bud Rolofson _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 31 15:47:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0ABB42736 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:47:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f170.google.com (mail-pd0-f170.google.com [209.85.192.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C7340401 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:47:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f170.google.com with SMTP id x10so1247811pdj.15 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:47:44 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=GGIdJfrBl0ZfK4Psrj3KlMhisjEEj8u7Ip3LYqchyn0=; b=Wgzq8uHQfkZc7/WjskdNBqTk/YfD4YBByKkUk38A9972uV4KW63E4enrr+TXeT6xtP RumcrYGPBBmdBy4XA75C1g7MiBGa7g4asitDzsA/kW0MRkWRWm696Q3rS5C33iNqFQUo snyKPPrLmkx/2XylN9vFIJjTyVEn2ktrjIojghrbd+cKzwe2HIw/Er+xa1bRxicTD39a zmu0Ay6hgWx2ZFJxqbWltm+gkrYX9y8tBC8mkWbSLz72gZS+86Hd/nkXC6VTg+KzKdVS ++EFFG/l9XhNZ1jBes/h9DFiULPrAS5HkEPZKqhuOeUh8H+fTWfaYOPXOn6fdW95jXZs xuUA== pl6mr401546pac.59.1375307264165; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.189.131 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:47:44 -0700 (PDT) References: <001601ce8df4$bb8c16e0$32a444a0$@klaenv.com> <2CDD8477-79D3-4109-8D45-38422B845B7B@cs.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:47:44 -0700 From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" To: Joe Alexander Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] GOG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe, Based on past ELVFs, what gets missed in track time if one does both events? I figure there are no racing events during the re-enactment? On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Ken, > > There is a police escort to and from the track for the Old Course > Reenactment. > This is a great feature that you will want to take advantage of. > > They do this at Watkins Glen and it is enormous fun. But it is a lot > easier to > do at Road America and the village. > > Unfortunately, you are correct, if you stay for the GOG you have to make > arrangements to trailer your race car back to the track. > > Some of us have single axle trailers and some cars are licensed and > insured. > Thanks for asking and thinking of this. > > We already appreciate the fact that we have so many folks crossing the > Continental Divide. > > Joe A > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jul 31, 2013, at 8:49 AM, "Kenneth Knight" wrote: > > > Joe: > > > > Do I recall correctly that if you go to the GOG with you race car you > have > to trailer it back? I would love to take the car but getting out my rig > and > loading that car is a ton of work. My car is not registered or legal for > the > street, nor does it have a muffler. > > > > Ken > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 31 16:16:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB124273C for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:16:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE604042E for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:10:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.4]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 25A4B700EE2F6; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 18:10:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 4DCD5E0000FF; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 18:10:44 -0400 (EDT) References: <001601ce8df4$bb8c16e0$32a444a0$@klaenv.com> <2CDD8477-79D3-4109-8D45-38422B845B7B@cs.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:10:28 -0500 To: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375308654; bh=LwpvLY9YI8e6t3k4s0T+kQpkyXvVmCXaSVaWZ/hZm1U=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=RUprf9YuwPvM6Cajxrh92fMrVqWzwaWqsdqDJiHj9v4uPaGXZyUt1PYoSud3SKDb+ A51xiLyehhc/Zs/pblpcwkQ6Qo8K+j6B47vzilACqn3ZthYd8cJhJXR8871e+DJJ8A yXPSVr0ufh/C7h/Qm/6nWBzKkjUIzWDIq7FPklTw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290451f98b645124 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] GOG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It's a good question..... The schedule on Saturday afternoon is set up so that the majority of our FOT will run right after lunch, leaving time for folks to gather behind the police escort car before it leaves for the Village. That is not to say that it doesn't get tight on time. However, our paddock area is also convenient to the departure point. The VSCDA does its best to make this happen. The fact that we are going to be tightly cloistered together in the paddock, should help facilitate this, too. Thanks for asking......it helps raise the level of awareness. Joe A Sent from my iPad On Jul 31, 2013, at 4:47 PM, "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" wrote: > Joe, > Based on past ELVFs, what gets missed in track time if one does both events? I figure there are no racing events during the re-enactment? > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: >> Ken, >> >> There is a police escort to and from the track for the Old Course Reenactment. >> This is a great feature that you will want to take advantage of. >> >> They do this at Watkins Glen and it is enormous fun. But it is a lot easier to >> do at Road America and the village. >> >> Unfortunately, you are correct, if you stay for the GOG you have to make >> arrangements to trailer your race car back to the track. >> >> Some of us have single axle trailers and some cars are licensed and insured. >> Thanks for asking and thinking of this. >> >> We already appreciate the fact that we have so many folks crossing the >> Continental Divide. >> >> Joe A >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Jul 31, 2013, at 8:49 AM, "Kenneth Knight" wrote: >> >> > Joe: >> > >> > Do I recall correctly that if you go to the GOG with you race car you have >> to trailer it back? I would love to take the car but getting out my rig and >> loading that car is a ton of work. My car is not registered or legal for the >> street, nor does it have a muffler. >> > >> > Ken >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 31 17:48:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698F342741 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:48:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail201c2.megamailservers.com (mail201c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41041403BA for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:47:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.227.179.11] (6.sub-174-237-4.myvzw.com [174.237.4.6]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail201c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r6VNlp5p010111 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:47:53 -0400 References: <001601ce8df4$bb8c16e0$32a444a0$@klaenv.com> <2CDD8477-79D3-4109-8D45-38422B845B7B@cs.com> <0DF0C0B0-BCDA-4DCD-A1D4-975015E4EA2D@cs.com> From: John Hasty Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:47:48 -0400 To: Joe Alexander a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ab2xprvU7Cdm0Erlv/F2/w==:17 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=NG0IswC7AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=a-c68E5q6RPmvB-cUfwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=ySgIuqwg-mwA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=ab2xprvU7Cdm0Erlv/F2/w==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] GOG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I asked the same question several weeks ago. The old course deal leaves at 1:30 according to the entry form and returns at 5:00. but as yet no schedule tells us what the sat group practice times are. Joe " right after lunch" usually means 1:00. What does "majority of our FOT" mean? Do you have a schedule? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 31, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > It's a good question..... > > The schedule on Saturday afternoon is set up so that the majority of our FOT > will run right after lunch, leaving time for folks to gather behind the police > escort car before it leaves for the Village. > > That is not to say that it doesn't get tight on time. However, our paddock > area is also convenient to the departure point. > > The VSCDA does its best to make this happen. > > The fact that we are going to be tightly cloistered together in the paddock, > should help facilitate this, too. > > Thanks for asking......it helps raise the level of awareness. > > Joe A > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jul 31, 2013, at 4:47 PM, "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" > wrote: > >> Joe, >> Based on past ELVFs, what gets missed in track time if one does both events? > I figure there are no racing events during the re-enactment? >> >> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: >>> Ken, >>> >>> There is a police escort to and from the track for the Old Course > Reenactment. >>> This is a great feature that you will want to take advantage of. >>> >>> They do this at Watkins Glen and it is enormous fun. But it is a lot easier > to >>> do at Road America and the village. >>> >>> Unfortunately, you are correct, if you stay for the GOG you have to make >>> arrangements to trailer your race car back to the track. >>> >>> Some of us have single axle trailers and some cars are licensed and > insured. >>> Thanks for asking and thinking of this. >>> >>> We already appreciate the fact that we have so many folks crossing the >>> Continental Divide. >>> >>> Joe A >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On Jul 31, 2013, at 8:49 AM, "Kenneth Knight" wrote: >>> >>>> Joe: >>>> >>>> Do I recall correctly that if you go to the GOG with you race car you > have >>> to trailer it back? I would love to take the car but getting out my rig > and >>> loading that car is a ton of work. My car is not registered or legal for > the >>> street, nor does it have a muffler. >>>> >>>> Ken >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 31 18:20:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 330F742741 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 18:20:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm7.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm24-vm7.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F0B4006D for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 18:20:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.167] by nm24.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2013 00:20:10 -0000 Received: from [67.195.14.111] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2013 00:20:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp108.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2013 00:20:10 -0000 Bb6pefz8l6W.556t1f8FdPL7pYkTEC8.csxMCO3udxQaLFafhmfLe9crmMjE JvDr74AP6_OqRq8nYZWIyWbLDg52EDRt.Kj1ZplMhOwvU7_a5v0dPEuE.CMz g9Ik6wzLgI1xJsbbzuNM__a9GMINglzW6ZMnCo5BJL0ajitOy3XNXGXUs0OI 54Hsk3AMwo_em83N.Mrstfb9kHDocbKicv8H0sg_rS3TYgB3RViTNCI2QRnn j.AefErN4_RRG3f.Hjm9PF7E6VH6jB7AyZr.cewk5Kqr6B.joUc9nSBMi3Z1 w9RCPdYsT9ZJcr7lQZ9kCaEg8K3iJj2_Nis40g2DW6g1bzanGMFlIDXSa6tz rxthoVoMESkckIZw_ZYTYY.cxIcIcPzq8dn9tQYgVXdnfTNJJIiWX2zWtOm7 lrOlum4Lt5EYJHGvcmK6oP04rkDU7O_xzdC7W1yAi.GdH91.5iS.ubC866pn X0inj4ySPWsMQy1aa6ejODqM_uXZkTpdFeY.u22fHeqYqNELs47cYyZzy3CJ 0fKzAeXK66ELp5HMXjwcw4kT0SVDPKuDQSzD7GiAVRUCdE4Wr90O4TOoIHmW UfhNkgp_P2dZ6UEfnnL_VUFzo8UBwpg-- smtp108.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Jul 2013 17:20:10 -0700 PDT From: "Rocky Entriken" To: "Bill Tobin" , References: <59464FD4C3784C2D9E191AF12E1D7C05@hpd530> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:20:11 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net $645 (and free shipping) at Saferacer for HANS Sport Series II -- http://www.saferacer.com/hans-device-sport-series-ii-hans-device --Rocky (No, I don't work for SafeRacer, but I'm a customer.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Tobin" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:04 AM Subject: [Fot] HANS > My 2 cents worth: If you aren't wearing a HANS, or similar device, you > should > be. They aren't restrictive, and are easy to get in and out of. And give a > measure of confidence and safety. > At around $700, they aren't cheap, but that would about pay for one day in > ICU. > After the guy crashed and was injured at Watkins Glen in June, I talked to > someone involved in the extrication and was told his injuries would > probably > have been worse than leg injuries had he not been wearing the HANS. > Ya pays your money and takes your chances, but I try and keep as safe as > possible. > Cheers, Bill _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 31 18:25:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F3442741 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 18:25:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m04.mx.aol.com (omr-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482C5403D3 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 18:24:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.67]) by omr-m04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 0C99170001D5E; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 20:24:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 5B523E0000DA; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 20:24:57 -0400 (EDT) References: <001601ce8df4$bb8c16e0$32a444a0$@klaenv.com> <2CDD8477-79D3-4109-8D45-38422B845B7B@cs.com> <0DF0C0B0-BCDA-4DCD-A1D4-975015E4EA2D@cs.com> <5298F177-271B-4EEE-AC88-F36E539A7026@gdhs.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:24:57 -0500 To: John Hasty x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375316697; bh=9BNXi5RNT0+NG84wafvxsyn7Eh8FTNX1XYJd3jmbCGA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=bLYaw7tjO5uv6cl5UnEayKaB4lgJqc3hu0aY0tsMOxvIGZ/Dp0Ww6/f0+hxAEw/rC nWiMox1LDzsDYyOslRTlNK3qGUqtl7gOATjMgDdrVjoMW5kj13lyK/8x8a+L3sz6IE 1RkUng36GkpGZgHF/I9iDcY80iox6oV1YyRC9Jg4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294351f9aad93414 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] Sample Schedule. Unpublished Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Saturday Schedule - Tentative Reenactment & GOG participants departs the track 2:45pm Groups 2 & 8, the majority of the FOT, will be done with Sprint Races by 2:00pm. Keep the faith baby....this is not their first rodeo. Sent from my iPad On Jul 31, 2013, at 6:47 PM, John Hasty wrote: > I asked the same question several weeks ago. The old course deal leaves at 1:30 according to the entry form and returns at 5:00. but as yet no schedule tells us what the sat group practice times are. Joe " right after lunch" usually means 1:00. What does "majority of our FOT" mean? Do you have a schedule? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 31, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > >> It's a good question..... >> >> The schedule on Saturday afternoon is set up so that the majority of our FOT >> will run right after lunch, leaving time for folks to gather behind the police >> escort car before it leaves for the Village. >> >> That is not to say that it doesn't get tight on time. However, our paddock >> area is also convenient to the departure point. >> >> The VSCDA does its best to make this happen. >> >> The fact that we are going to be tightly cloistered together in the paddock, >> should help facilitate this, too. >> >> Thanks for asking......it helps raise the level of awareness. >> >> Joe A >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Jul 31, 2013, at 4:47 PM, "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" >> wrote: >> >>> Joe, >>> Based on past ELVFs, what gets missed in track time if one does both events? >> I figure there are no racing events during the re-enactment? >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: >>>> Ken, >>>> >>>> There is a police escort to and from the track for the Old Course >> Reenactment. >>>> This is a great feature that you will want to take advantage of. >>>> >>>> They do this at Watkins Glen and it is enormous fun. But it is a lot easier >> to >>>> do at Road America and the village. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, you are correct, if you stay for the GOG you have to make >>>> arrangements to trailer your race car back to the track. >>>> >>>> Some of us have single axle trailers and some cars are licensed and >> insured. >>>> Thanks for asking and thinking of this. >>>> >>>> We already appreciate the fact that we have so many folks crossing the >>>> Continental Divide. >>>> >>>> Joe A >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> On Jul 31, 2013, at 8:49 AM, "Kenneth Knight" wrote: >>>> >>>>> Joe: >>>>> >>>>> Do I recall correctly that if you go to the GOG with you race car you >> have >>>> to trailer it back? I would love to take the car but getting out my rig >> and >>>> loading that car is a ton of work. My car is not registered or legal for >> the >>>> street, nor does it have a muffler. >>>>> >>>>> Ken >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 31 19:28:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8D04271F for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:28:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F9584271F for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:28:28 -0600 (MDT) a=ft3aQrzeuTtyZjRjRVvyHw==:17 a=ufghDHTLyEAA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=OvyRBq_22FoA:10 a=rvM2sxYvM6BUM3V4hHcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=JpKRJUQ-Je0A:10 a=A2Oj0nj-1jQA:10 a=ikBd3jFHuSvQi3tb:21 a=FqttojMwO2Vom3Ni:21 a=VxeYKQSKC6REpPJYtLIA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=Hr9vksRuGcgI7snI:21 a=ft3aQrzeuTtyZjRjRVvyHw==:117 Received: from [65.29.157.118] ([65.29.157.118:47310] helo=[10.0.1.4]) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 4A/BE-18705-BB9B9F15; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 01:28:27 +0000 From: Allen Washatko To: Friends of Triumph Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 20:28:26 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Kas Cup Sept Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FoT, Because my TR6 won't be ready until next season, I would be more than happy to drive anyone's extra Triumph race car that might be on the trailer! Just let me know. In anticipation, Allen Allen & Jody Washatko 1971 TR6 - Number 6 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive