From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 1 00:58:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D06A4274E for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 00:58:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f173.google.com (mail-ea0-f173.google.com [209.85.215.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01504273F for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 00:51:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f173.google.com with SMTP id g10so786757eak.18 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 23:51:22 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=XgtLW9up6PSm/GYsAT+ACSwfVgrczspziFuSItFumuA=; b=Ed0v0QBNIwElz2W4q17l9ZGvfDEoflvntwbVJHVJqdfG5KvFnU2moFmwHk4QY5w1Mb taQ44+CK3BRZbIeQ+A/zBXnBCXp4wU8+Vl4eueC6h+Xbgjs4qZHAozoHFgpfvxhU85Pt o8YR8Uaf9LVEO3idK1gXIgjFFnU7N/7u2/7QnmVbnBTFPXnenAyJHi2UD7wbojlwe94O z9tEwUl/AqJIDv1Zzv/rmd25LD4UGbK5Ohka6dMqT7Hpkp+ERZs4ktW4ACk1XAvxXIrN m076rWiFcAEHSDcsVIu2SV1Sq+5epFFB7yPf3iwUHA6+MadWo3APaXCMYxMNXpophPFz 62ig== Wed, 31 Jul 2013 23:51:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.171.34.171]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i2sm1966973eeu.4.2013.07.31.23.51.20 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 23:51:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <001601ce8df4$bb8c16e0$32a444a0$@klaenv.com> <2CDD8477-79D3-4109-8D45-38422B845B7B@cs.com> <0DF0C0B0-BCDA-4DCD-A1D4-975015E4EA2D@cs.com> <5298F177-271B-4EEE-AC88-F36E539A7026@gdhs.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 08:51:23 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6OSG+D6+0mxl0bRQWCTcoCPRqLKgAOsGZg Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] GOG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net An English racing series put up a collective purchase for Hans and they got a good price for ordering 200 of them. About 350$. They asked several racing series to be part of to get 200 together. That's why I have a Hans harness but not a helmet. Maybe an option for you guys to purchase together? Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von John Hasty Gesendet: Donnerstag, 1. August 2013 01:48 An: Joe Alexander Cc: fot@autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] GOG I asked the same question several weeks ago. The old course deal leaves at 1:30 according to the entry form and returns at 5:00. but as yet no schedule tells us what the sat group practice times are. Joe " right after lunch" usually means 1:00. What does "majority of our FOT" mean? Do you have a schedule? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 31, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > It's a good question..... > > The schedule on Saturday afternoon is set up so that the majority of > our FOT > will run right after lunch, leaving time for folks to gather behind > the police > escort car before it leaves for the Village. > > That is not to say that it doesn't get tight on time. However, our > paddock area is also convenient to the departure point. > > The VSCDA does its best to make this happen. > > The fact that we are going to be tightly cloistered together in the paddock, > should help facilitate this, too. > > Thanks for asking......it helps raise the level of awareness. > > Joe A > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jul 31, 2013, at 4:47 PM, "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" > wrote: > >> Joe, >> Based on past ELVFs, what gets missed in track time if one does both events? > I figure there are no racing events during the re-enactment? >> >> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: >>> Ken, >>> >>> There is a police escort to and from the track for the Old Course > Reenactment. >>> This is a great feature that you will want to take advantage of. >>> >>> They do this at Watkins Glen and it is enormous fun. But it is a lot easier > to >>> do at Road America and the village. >>> >>> Unfortunately, you are correct, if you stay for the GOG you have to >>> make arrangements to trailer your race car back to the track. >>> >>> Some of us have single axle trailers and some cars are licensed and > insured. >>> Thanks for asking and thinking of this. >>> >>> We already appreciate the fact that we have so many folks crossing >>> the Continental Divide. >>> >>> Joe A >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On Jul 31, 2013, at 8:49 AM, "Kenneth Knight" wrote: >>> >>>> Joe: >>>> >>>> Do I recall correctly that if you go to the GOG with you race car >>>> you > have >>> to trailer it back? I would love to take the car but getting out my >>> rig > and >>> loading that car is a ton of work. My car is not registered or >>> legal for > the >>> street, nor does it have a muffler. >>>> >>>> Ken >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 1 07:28:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6AC429ED for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 07:28:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f43.google.com (mail-oa0-f43.google.com [209.85.219.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C10429B6 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 07:16:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id i10so4311928oag.30 for ; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 06:16:35 -0700 (PDT) h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=wPqGJjd+pITFxP7efIHPA9VCknht88opkpmqXCAsx8Y=; b=vhNcpVyxcx9U+kr/kmRf0nGC/TyR05/AAQqESfE3BVJau9MRZjNTiBa2zRTc4J/WjW BPluqGfuFAz1oAVAoElZVFi5q0ykdnaXH7nf0/GAfS8x/TpXASu9OYbUSf7GOGsrgj1g dwnFH3jtRWs2Hvr2vDHEmkzGraNtIBBK6khl3pX/+JHJq9ucyiWhrvDOCxm8MHPci6T5 5bPnO3XI4tk0WdvTwK0y/J/RZF7dx0rRMcAnAPrg8xJ7R4n9km+dqUEEBWcGiS7lduEf WvgEkgDNM+BEHbWOuuK4AnWrHbNkvyLISfON+Nbo5C/CLAFKuv+N+ztTjR/5UEtGDn4W cqww== oi5mr1115038obc.83.1375362995298; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 06:16:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id mq1sm2694359obb.14.2013.08.01.06.16.32 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 01 Aug 2013 06:16:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 08:16:28 -0500 References: <59464FD4C3784C2D9E191AF12E1D7C05@hpd530> To: Rocky Entriken Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net $599 for the NecksGen that I have been using for about a year. Free shipping from this company: http://tinyurl.com/l7zpewj Duncan (Texas) On Jul 31, 2013, at 7:20 PM, Rocky Entriken wrote: > $645 (and free shipping) at Saferacer for HANS Sport Series II -- http://www.saferacer.com/hans-device-sport-series-ii-hans-device > > --Rocky _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 1 08:45:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E68C429ED for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 08:45:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f181.google.com (mail-ob0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D00F429B5 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 08:37:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f181.google.com with SMTP id dn14so3953669obc.40 for ; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 07:37:22 -0700 (PDT) h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=3g/kGixvd4GRBcXGyVe9YR/jFcR7TnbctG8MNzj4AGU=; b=mgqTG1gMQUGAVVAhlnDch7bro/9XczAMyK1QYeAwqok/ufm+302oiA7SRYYrYQfQ9D 64SxDqdDnUiJ2yXTnWntm26T4urV86FUbjh43/5Wh+Hhxw8/h1asoZngo6V6yNxBsXE+ YgRpCcjvbzCX+wHsnB+OyJR0au7X2h131fB/fEUTcU0nNRMRznFV/uxhllYSN742bk4U aDa2cNxLAA3S0fZpWnAw31DVRqK7V9tgoOJHlRsULjVIbS0lI/fGz+79LsFYbAvJIWAg RSS8TRUsFyIvHVYnAs/VTMK1hjbjkm+omEZOWsJOrKJdHd9fx2XAn7hbNqcPlIGLiwFE PnKg== sc4mr1485756oeb.24.1375367841905; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 07:37:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fh1sm3088631oeb.7.2013.08.01.07.37.20 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 01 Aug 2013 07:37:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 09:37:16 -0500 To: FoT Triumph References: <59464FD4C3784C2D9E191AF12E1D7C05@hpd530> <43944133-24CD-46E5-9EB0-AA290A210D1F@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Perhaps mine is a later version; it has slip-straps, although it still does restrict my ability to turn my head slightly. I neglected to mention we did a group buy of 6 here in central Texas -- Bob Kramer did the deed for us. Duncan On Aug 1, 2013, at 9:15 AM, michael kowalski wrote: > However, the NecksGen that I have does not have "slip-straps" like the HANS was described having. I was trapped between stations once with no ability to see traffic for re-entry because I could not swivel my head. Very worrisome. > > mike kowalski > 1500 FP Spit > > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 7:16 AM, Duncan Charlton wrote: > $599 for the NecksGen that I have been using for about a year. Free shipping > from this company: http://tinyurl.com/l7zpewj > > Duncan > (Texas) > > On Jul 31, 2013, at 7:20 PM, Rocky Entriken wrote: > > > $645 (and free shipping) at Saferacer for HANS Sport Series II -- > http://www.saferacer.com/hans-device-sport-series-ii-hans-device > > > > --Rocky > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sm1ski@dslextreme.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 1 14:10:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30B342A85 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:10:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FDC542A22 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:08:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from AR5J3QR6XV (cpe-70-113-116-224.austin.res.rr.com [70.113.116.224]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LiD4F-1UIEPs0oSZ-00nOsX; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 16:08:00 -0400 From: "FoodDude" To: References: <59464FD4C3784C2D9E191AF12E1D7C05@hpd530> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 15:08:02 -0500 Thread-Index: AQFabYx1mGfRJ8pOEcaVyYKoaye8BwEF5Gd6mmDaw9A= Content-Language: en-us 6VsaSM7XSBtsrzNtXJfGFkdVrhdCeqUxasP2EwyReZxaGPv8z3 eIyu0V8jYwMaFf7S/7vBFMfOEExAxd1lHOdHerOsWW/lIoxma7 C9ZLoBbalKmVH5YyG7lhP4KyE1Etl/9ZvV6Ep8cUMMkjajWbp5 DN5BDQiWg4mLD/Up/Dmj2n+VaDCMDPNiBsZ+gdKM4I1iIbIrUu GRHbcFz8Lvrbj/yZNEVpMlMBEJBERWoQGQMzwvzOb0XAPHipCa 99CQIiSSlkPAu3hZeze0f5n2gDQreJrtp1uZLgxLJnIOCw6cdJ N2mo288e04qgIA9FLFlrNcoFty0phzKqnxYYrsDPo Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The model 20 Sport is $545 and free shipping from Pegasus https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=9592-020 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rocky Entriken Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:20 PM To: Bill Tobin; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS $645 (and free shipping) at Saferacer for HANS Sport Series II -- http://www.saferacer.com/hans-device-sport-series-ii-hans-device --Rocky (No, I don't work for SafeRacer, but I'm a customer.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Tobin" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:04 AM Subject: [Fot] HANS > My 2 cents worth: If you aren't wearing a HANS, or similar device, you > should > be. They aren't restrictive, and are easy to get in and out of. And give a > measure of confidence and safety. > At around $700, they aren't cheap, but that would about pay for one day in > ICU. > After the guy crashed and was injured at Watkins Glen in June, I talked to > someone involved in the extrication and was told his injuries would > probably > have been worse than leg injuries had he not been wearing the HANS. > Ya pays your money and takes your chances, but I try and keep as safe as > possible. > Cheers, Bill _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dforeman@fooddude.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3209/6540 - Release Date: 07/31/13 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 1 14:25:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B554642A86 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:25:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 880CE42808 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:17:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.99.12] (c-76-99-29-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [76.99.29.73]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MQV001XOCD3WD00@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 20:17:29 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-08-01_08:2013-08-01,2013-08-01,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1305010000 definitions=main-1308010192 From: Scott Janzen Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 16:17:26 -0400 References: <59464FD4C3784C2D9E191AF12E1D7C05@hpd530> <04b701ce8ef2$d49a87d0$7dcf9770$@fooddude.com> To: FoodDude Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I got the Sport II last year. For you drivers in open cars, it won't matter, but in my GT6, I had borrowed a regular Sport to try, and found the squared off corners on the "collar" tended to catch me on the door opening when I exit. The Sport II worked better (of course, it costs more). On Aug 1, 2013, at 4:08 PM, FoodDude wrote: The model 20 Sport is $545 and free shipping from Pegasus https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=9592-020 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rocky Entriken Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:20 PM To: Bill Tobin; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS $645 (and free shipping) at Saferacer for HANS Sport Series II -- http://www.saferacer.com/hans-device-sport-series-ii-hans-device --Rocky (No, I don't work for SafeRacer, but I'm a customer.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Tobin" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:04 AM Subject: [Fot] HANS > My 2 cents worth: If you aren't wearing a HANS, or similar device, you > should > be. They aren't restrictive, and are easy to get in and out of. And give a > measure of confidence and safety. > At around $700, they aren't cheap, but that would about pay for one day in > ICU. > After the guy crashed and was injured at Watkins Glen in June, I talked to > someone involved in the extrication and was told his injuries would > probably > have been worse than leg injuries had he not been wearing the HANS. > Ya pays your money and takes your chances, but I try and keep as safe as > possible. > Cheers, Bill _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dforeman@fooddude.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3209/6540 - Release Date: 07/31/13 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 1 15:59:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D946242A7B for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 15:59:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E397429BB for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 15:56:34 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=ECgaRk8IOse3wPI4cXD7GQ==:17 a=BKOO9UZLBG8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=of5KSOZPAAAA:20 a=1bwxdhXdAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=Wj_XccxBHjn0w7QE6AIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=KXuLW65_DLEA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=ECgaRk8IOse3wPI4cXD7GQ==:117 Received: from [166.137.148.237] ([166.137.148.237:60972] helo=[10.101.43.174]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 0A/29-09254-199DAF15; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 21:56:34 +0000 References: <59464FD4C3784C2D9E191AF12E1D7C05@hpd530> <43944133-24CD-46E5-9EB0-AA290A210D1F@gmail.com> From: Bob Kramer Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 16:56:30 -0500 To: Duncan Charlton Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'd read about the need to turn your head at least in those situations and even on grid. It seemed critical for us road racers to have some side to side freedom thus we selected the NecksGen. I've been happy with mine. Bob Kramer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 1, 2013, at 8:16 AM, Duncan Charlton wrote: > $599 for the NecksGen that I have been using for about a year. Free shipping > from this company: http://tinyurl.com/l7zpewj > > Duncan > (Texas) > > On Jul 31, 2013, at 7:20 PM, Rocky Entriken wrote: > >> $645 (and free shipping) at Saferacer for HANS Sport Series II -- > http://www.saferacer.com/hans-device-sport-series-ii-hans-device >> >> --Rocky > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 1 19:05:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FF3342A42 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 19:05:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE78A427C8 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 18:59:53 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=D/etfTJrm3HAjBY78I02rw==:17 a=8HSVgOjxi74A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=of5KSOZPAAAA:20 a=1bwxdhXdAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=DyMgSWZyTC8Hl-Qsdr8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=KXuLW65_DLEA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=D/etfTJrm3HAjBY78I02rw==:117 Received: from [166.147.69.23] ([166.147.69.23:42616] helo=[10.221.99.130]) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id EA/DE-05415-8840BF15; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 00:59:52 +0000 References: <59464FD4C3784C2D9E191AF12E1D7C05@hpd530> <43944133-24CD-46E5-9EB0-AA290A210D1F@gmail.com> <84C7F648-FFD1-4D48-8B2D-7AB94B8DD24B@austin.rr.com> From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 18:59:50 -0600 To: Bob Kramer Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ditto. After one event, I didn't notice a difference. Very happy with purchase. Of course, it delayed the purchase of a gear set. On Aug 1, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: > I'd read about the need to turn your head at least in those situations and > even on grid. It seemed critical for us road racers to have some side to side > freedom thus we selected the NecksGen. I've been happy with mine. > > Bob Kramer > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 1, 2013, at 8:16 AM, Duncan Charlton > wrote: > >> $599 for the NecksGen that I have been using for about a year. Free > shipping >> from this company: http://tinyurl.com/l7zpewj >> >> Duncan >> (Texas) >> >> On Jul 31, 2013, at 7:20 PM, Rocky Entriken wrote: >> >>> $645 (and free shipping) at Saferacer for HANS Sport Series II -- >> http://www.saferacer.com/hans-device-sport-series-ii-hans-device >>> >>> --Rocky >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 2 10:37:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC73142A42 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 10:37:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f52.google.com (mail-ee0-f52.google.com [74.125.83.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 477284069E for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 10:24:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f52.google.com with SMTP id c41so437462eek.11 for ; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 09:24:38 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=XmWagBVzGt3iTTaLD8OiqQ902GUqk+aXJ/s3Nctjqa8=; b=tGuIpPYb76OdabTiVRFhm7Ib/kRR+KmYOXcmm7Pylj5PteEPcjArMbIRkansBXGYUc Azv1DHhy8MhjdBzAKDagnJgeP9Ma73AdbithfvVprlKBIRXsbK1c+LU5QHK5S9Dia2Jn G668+EHoPsOyE+miSA3qbwzkx7uzkz5yDzHVuoTl0nt4Jop9apwaYHbzJtA7reTGzVvL Xhvea5I+4igWJ0bGHTpL1wLmrKmbv7G5mKS6cgO/xdAFcsp4SWRvIunuMctDVuHNHRcT nfwDWbQY/RuXLBnU6LpUcnNnnOWv5VCG13c099cohWaV5AMTnntmX0/WrsRW8wGGJV2y G0oQ== k43mr6553575eeg.2.1375460678868; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 09:24:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([31.213.112.187]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id p5sm12987177eeg.5.2013.08.02.09.24.37 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 02 Aug 2013 09:24:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Greg And Alison Blake'" , "'Bob Kramer'" References: <59464FD4C3784C2D9E191AF12E1D7C05@hpd530> <43944133-24CD-46E5-9EB0-AA290A210D1F@gmail.com> <84C7F648-FFD1-4D48-8B2D-7AB94B8DD24B@austin.rr.com> <6A2022BA-CEFC-459D-9F50-CA6C96BB08A9@austin.rr.com> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 18:24:35 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6PHHl2x8p4x9q5RVeKRAZTG93zeQAgALkA Content-Language: de Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I tried once a HANS without the sliding straps. After turning the head I was blind because the helmet didn't turn and the visor was now on my left ear. That's whay I purchased a sliding HANS. :-) Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Greg And Alison Blake Gesendet: Freitag, 2. August 2013 03:00 An: Bob Kramer Cc: fot@autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] HANS Ditto. After one event, I didn't notice a difference. Very happy with purchase. Of course, it delayed the purchase of a gear set. On Aug 1, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: > I'd read about the need to turn your head at least in those situations > and even on grid. It seemed critical for us road racers to have some > side to side > freedom thus we selected the NecksGen. I've been happy with mine. > > Bob Kramer > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 1, 2013, at 8:16 AM, Duncan Charlton > > wrote: > >> $599 for the NecksGen that I have been using for about a year. Free > shipping >> from this company: http://tinyurl.com/l7zpewj >> >> Duncan >> (Texas) >> >> On Jul 31, 2013, at 7:20 PM, Rocky Entriken wrote: >> >>> $645 (and free shipping) at Saferacer for HANS Sport Series II -- >> http://www.saferacer.com/hans-device-sport-series-ii-hans-device >>> >>> --Rocky >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 2 11:47:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44C142AA8 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 11:47:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mailrtr01.ntelos.net (mailrtr01.ntelos.net [216.12.0.101]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D9842862 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 11:28:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from webmail.ntelos.net (webmail.lumos.net [209.145.64.96]) by mailrtr01.ntelos.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id r72HS6d7019856; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 17:28:07 GMT Received: from d-128-234-204.bootp.Virginia.EDU (d-128-234-204.bootp.Virginia.EDU [128.143.234.204]) by webmail.ntelos.net with HTTP (SquirrelMail authenticated user rjl6n@cstone.net); Fri, 2 Aug 2013 13:28:07 -0400 References: <59464FD4C3784C2D9E191AF12E1D7C05@hpd530> <43944133-24CD-46E5-9EB0-AA290A210D1F@gmail.com> <84C7F648-FFD1-4D48-8B2D-7AB94B8DD24B@austin.rr.com> <6A2022BA-CEFC-459D-9F50-CA6C96BB08A9@austin.rr.com> <000001ce8f9c$c86b7a00$59426e00$@com> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 13:28:07 -0400 From: "R. John Lye" To: "MadMarx" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Then the helmet was way, way too big. There's no way that a properly fitted helmet should allow your head to rotate that much. John On Fri, August 2, 2013 12:24 pm, MadMarx wrote: > I tried once a HANS without the sliding straps. > After turning the head I was blind because the helmet didn't turn and the > visor was now on my left ear. > > That's whay I purchased a sliding HANS. :-) > > Chris > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im > Auftrag von Greg And Alison Blake > Gesendet: Freitag, 2. August 2013 03:00 > An: Bob Kramer > Cc: fot@autox.team.net > Betreff: Re: [Fot] HANS > > Ditto. After one event, I didn't notice a difference. Very happy with > purchase. Of course, it delayed the purchase of a gear set. > > On Aug 1, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: > >> I'd read about the need to turn your head at least in those situations >> and even on grid. It seemed critical for us road racers to have some >> side to > side >> freedom thus we selected the NecksGen. I've been happy with mine. >> >> Bob Kramer >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 1, 2013, at 8:16 AM, Duncan Charlton >> >> wrote: >> >>> $599 for the NecksGen that I have been using for about a year. Free >> shipping >>> from this company: http://tinyurl.com/l7zpewj >>> >>> Duncan >>> (Texas) >>> >>> On Jul 31, 2013, at 7:20 PM, Rocky Entriken wrote: >>> >>>> $645 (and free shipping) at Saferacer for HANS Sport Series II -- >>> http://www.saferacer.com/hans-device-sport-series-ii-hans-device >>>> >>>> --Rocky >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 2 12:05:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED6F42A77 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 12:05:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE3B4272A for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 11:40:47 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=IFadWf/ACikKaIGnRmPl2Q==:17 a=3aWgdg-mILUA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=8A7brI4kjU8C6ETGAX3PRdgeao0=:19 a=QEps4B0vAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=of5KSOZPAAAA:20 a=1bwxdhXdAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=nq_iPTBNAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=QP5IY3kgAAAA:8 a=iecE_AW-AuNgJ21LEYEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=KXuLW65_DLEA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=J1--mjHvEgEA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=TQdRxR6nyrkA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=zEoJXyrrGmEA:10 a=IFadWf/ACikKaIGnRmPl2Q==:117 Received: from [166.137.120.118] ([166.137.120.118:58034] helo=[10.2.141.255]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 4F/06-14128-71FEBF15; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 17:40:46 +0000 References: <59464FD4C3784C2D9E191AF12E1D7C05@hpd530> <43944133-24CD-46E5-9EB0-AA290A210D1F@gmail.com> <84C7F648-FFD1-4D48-8B2D-7AB94B8DD24B@austin.rr.com> <6A2022BA-CEFC-459D-9F50-CA6C96BB08A9@austin.rr.com> <000001ce8f9c$c86b7a00$59426e00$@com> From: Bob Kramer Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 12:40:35 -0500 To: "R. John Lye" Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Good point! Bob Kramer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 2, 2013, at 12:28 PM, "R. John Lye" wrote: > Then the helmet was way, way too big. There's no way > that a properly fitted helmet should allow your head > to rotate that much. > > John > > On Fri, August 2, 2013 12:24 pm, MadMarx wrote: >> I tried once a HANS without the sliding straps. >> After turning the head I was blind because the helmet didn't turn and the >> visor was now on my left ear. >> >> That's whay I purchased a sliding HANS. :-) >> >> Chris >> >> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im >> Auftrag von Greg And Alison Blake >> Gesendet: Freitag, 2. August 2013 03:00 >> An: Bob Kramer >> Cc: fot@autox.team.net >> Betreff: Re: [Fot] HANS >> >> Ditto. After one event, I didn't notice a difference. Very happy with >> purchase. Of course, it delayed the purchase of a gear set. >> >> On Aug 1, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: >> >>> I'd read about the need to turn your head at least in those situations >>> and even on grid. It seemed critical for us road racers to have some >>> side to >> side >>> freedom thus we selected the NecksGen. I've been happy with mine. >>> >>> Bob Kramer >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 1, 2013, at 8:16 AM, Duncan Charlton >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> $599 for the NecksGen that I have been using for about a year. Free >>> shipping >>>> from this company: http://tinyurl.com/l7zpewj >>>> >>>> Duncan >>>> (Texas) >>>> >>>> On Jul 31, 2013, at 7:20 PM, Rocky Entriken wrote: >>>> >>>>> $645 (and free shipping) at Saferacer for HANS Sport Series II -- >>>> http://www.saferacer.com/hans-device-sport-series-ii-hans-device >>>>> >>>>> --Rocky >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 2 13:11:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C1142AE5 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 13:11:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm43-vm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm43-vm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A62D40408 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:32:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.173] by nm43.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jul 2013 21:32:26 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.210] by tm19.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jul 2013 21:32:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jul 2013 21:32:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 27467 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Jul 2013 21:32:26 -0000 s=s1024; t=1375306346; bh=tgPFF6eWdLLn85ky3kr090G2X48XQLo2vJpj+i7PKyg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tLOktE0sJ3Hu4RBiJSTRXRenIHaQLrekoBBVdxMPI7L87zJa1S7hi6RedQu/RWLmXC5y7vCfqHDyzB01HvMoo0uOy/XvJJOtkXAqPCEsCaAMaS2sd+GVeReQmAJxshqh/5Vmm7MtijzB2QD3l0Pxg+pAj4g7uPMrqRuZp8Ag7pk= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=A+8qL9kALdEWSCTs218mL7ThhTTB8lCUumddCwfqONArcQYl6suz3KGJsBrmOS5/T21EO2mVUTmXUw+ylZu6NnX1zAxJExBlu6l7A2ZlXSaOeM4U1tehPnaYmkOS9S5vBYthpdNtoXNQAmFLdEWpYCr3Z0PVspRoJ/Pw/hOSOrk=; XW.CGWxlkY99_2nhC4EsKMIuhkrpJczCQZOdr6P3U4ezCKkk8w8uihrpnxRW DQDDf1HkUgSAIcTobCdzdKkxBX89gkzt16v3q2eShQkkU0g4MHCl.jirlH3K IhJ9EgvzIREyegPW6E.uhrpmbh1uL.CMMe2oDVwXteVC6dR3IRiB6sxEMykj FqoKvLQ3jha2bxj7V7GkEZe6_0jx9D5qjZ26g6KqiR5ph3uKEfUHjx52LFmd rItgi0qY1mLj4gUrH.sHTV6e0swEW3g9waTHbcMUOMFu0JlXRYVySx5f3Dqo u4RUZquJRb_Ga5bm.ifZhLEduv3ZPb48iZOf6K9ISdTBc4Z1OT.1HAedPiGH P9sVV3uU5hCNnyWdwSSMBQh7PNOVNWVmQtw9tOjkgkifwMjTusPIW3_8QCs. JbUINgnwu17EZRWNWxV6mLv4CQ52fu9RUZpDqz.qKz_s72Y8K83_S3bGyiWO LzHFDZqU7hwZeftQ_q8PLVCYGs8uqpH3N57Z5bHHTbPrf4DlZZpQ- Received: from [173.10.34.150] by web160606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:32:26 PDT SGV5IGV2ZXJ5b25lLArCoApUaG91Z2h0IEkgbWlnaHQgc2hhcmUgbGFzdCB3ZWVrZW5kcyBhZHZlbnR1cmUgd2l0aCB5b3UgYWxsIGFuZCBhbHNvIHByb3ZpZGUgYSBQU0EgKFB1YmxpYyBTZXJ2aWNlIEFubm91bmNlbWVudCkgYXQgdGhlIHNhbWUgdGltZS4KwqAKSXQncyBiZWVuIGEgcmVhbCBpbnRlcmVzdGluZyBzdGFydCBmb3IgMjAxMywgSSdsbCB0cmFuc2dyZXNzIGEgbGl0dGxlIGJpdCBhcyBpdCBtYXkgYmUgaW50ZXJlc3RpbmcgdG8gc29tZS7CoCAKwqAKSSd2ZSBiZWVuIHJhY2luZyBteSBUcml1bXABMAEBAQE- Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:32:26 -0700 (PDT) From: chris crisenbery To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] SCCA Road America & HProd Spitfire Excitement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hey everyone, Thought I might share last weekends adventure with you all and also provide a PSA (Public Service Announcement) at the same time. It's been a real interesting start for 2013, I'll transgress a little bit as it may be interesting to some. I've been racing my Triumph Spitfire in G and H since 1989 and have had some limited success over the years. In 2008 I took some time off from racing as the economy was in the tank and I knew that even though I had had the track record at Road America my Spit wouldn't be competitive with the new tin tops at the Runoffs. So fast forward to early this year, I had been working out for roughly 4 months 5 times a week doing Kettlebell (a strength based aerobic workout) to get in better shape and to try and return to racing for the 50th Anniversary of the Run-Offs at RA and the last year at RA. Unfortunately I ended up injuring myself during a workout suffering what they call a Distal Bicep Rupture which means I tore my bicep from it's mounting point on my forearm. This is the opposite end of the bicep when you tear your rotator cuff. You look up this injury and it says it's fairly rare 3% compared to the rotator injury 96% and it's most common in middle aged men.......OUCH! Kick a guy when he's down! This injury has a long long heal time 5-6 months and this happened in March so I figured my comback was kaput! However about 2 months into recovery the doctor said that even though he didn't think it was a good idea to go racing he would leave it up to my judgment...sounded like a YES to me! So I went racing after a 5 year hiatus! The Spit was carefully prepared....OK I lie, I put new belts in it (I was required to), I treated the 6 year old slicks with Formula V, and put some new fuel in the cell. I also cleaned the rust off of the rotors. Should have changed the brake fluid, ran the valves, resealed the 4 piece wheels, put new slicks on it and nut and bolted the car.....but hey it ran when I parked it! My first weekend out was the Major's at Gingerman and due to some attrition and a lot of luck I was able to score a 1st and a 2nd, so scoring enough points to make it to the RO was taken care of now I just needed 2 more finishes! Last weekend I headed to Road America with my top notch crew chief my 14 year old daughter Sara! BTW I did do some prep on the Spit between the races I changed front springs and deglazed the brake pads! So hopefully it would stop and turn in, something it didn't want to do at Gingerman. Qualifying was pretty uneventful other than I was dog slow, but I also realized that the goal of the weekend was 2 finishes so that I could make it to the RO. Our race was early afternoon and I cruised around in last place watching the new Spec B cars dice, they look pretty fun but they aren't real fast. Our race was 12 laps long and once I hit the 6 laps to go I upped my RPM's a little as I new I had the first needed finish in the books. For those of you that know RA I was working lap 6 headed down into 5 which is at the end of a pretty fast section of down hill track. The car turned in well and I accelerated up the hill and under the bridge into 6 a left hand turn that's medium fast. For those that were waiting for the PSA here it comes, when I turned in the steering felt a little funny as the car pushed (or seemed to push a little)I chalked it up to the 6 year old Goodyear slicks. The next corner is a fast right hander and the car turned in well and I rocketed down the hill into 8.....this is where it gets interesting! The down hill is very fast as I'm at around 7,500 rpms in 3rd and you need to brake pretty hard to turn left at 8. I downshifted started to turn in and got back onto the throttle about mid corner when the car made a violent right hand turn........I was pretty surprised as this was definitely not a push, I think my first clue was the fact that when I turned the steering wheel I found it wasn't attached to the steering rack anymore! My initial thought was the wheel had come off the quick release and as I was rapidly sliding across the track I took a quick look to see if I could reattach the wheel, unfortunately it was still attached to the shaft. I then focused my attention towards my final resting point (poor choice of words!) It looked like the car might pass by the nearest tire wall and have another 20 feet or so to the next closest one, but NO the wheels were really turned right so it kept the car pointed towards the nearer wall......thank goodness there was a pea stone trap between me and the wall. The Spit finally stopped roughly 5 foot from the tire wall with no damage but a lot of stones EVERYWHERE! I won't bore you with the tow back or having to push the car to impound as I still finished 3rd, but I will share with you what actually failed. The notch that is in the tubular portion of the steering shaft that allows the collapsible solid shaft to move up in the event of an accident had developed little cracks and when I turned left into 6 it opened up giving me the impression that the car didn't turn in but "Pushed" but in fact the shaft just didn't turn the wheels as much as the loose nut behind the wheel had asked and then when I turned into 7 the right it closed back up giving me the impression all was well! until I asked for another left where it failed completely. I was able to get the shaft repaired by welding a collar over the notch and was able to finish Sundays race with very little excitement other than the B Spec that spun in front of me in turn 1 on the very first lap. I am now qualified for the RO and will start to prep the Spit from nose to tail with all of the items I should have done prior. I have no idea if any of you find these stories interesting or would like any updates, but if you do I would be willing to share a story every once in a while from my 20 plus years of racing and/or the prep I do for my return to the RunOffs. Cheers Chris Crisenbery Rascal Racing HP Triumph Spitfire _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 2 13:14:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2688642AED for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 13:14:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f45.google.com (unknown [209.85.214.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F94C429A6 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 08:16:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-bk0-f45.google.com with SMTP id je2so689016bkc.32 for ; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 07:15:50 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=fqbwp8kJ1PqEFujhHj4MG//yjT6CVaJZCrSsz5T/f+0=; b=fKV+TJ6Bfu5pwZsaT2yeC8bpodmdaiMfKBfdoSD9LS2L7LVZke8sqxLKfXQ8zA1JFh kf1D3K1eLAuMjkR6VW6B9anZfltmO82HhkDApf+K5r2ohCHvF+RLpD8rp+CeaRLRQdct zFanNY5vIj0Orxj8ZK31Cpk68vJS3kkNCve6x0xnYCRsz23xx97lOdwxN9nkWWfDN2D+ bLgwdVt0T9iUxx99sLmc1mz49bimYTd6zx4/ctrxxwNRSq+grSB1UewprcdVoRRikjjS 2+XsJfQPTsXEqXvx2VXyJCcxcvDlULN2GnWYOfmbk3jlkztZgaLDIj9Hy70fDw/uJW5p LJzw== qq9mr431955bkb.145.1375366550713; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 07:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.234.136 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 07:15:50 -0700 (PDT) References: <59464FD4C3784C2D9E191AF12E1D7C05@hpd530> <43944133-24CD-46E5-9EB0-AA290A210D1F@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 08:15:50 -0600 From: michael kowalski To: Duncan Charlton Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net However, the NecksGen that I have does not have "slip-straps" like the HANS was described having. I was trapped between stations once with no ability to see traffic for re-entry because I could not swivel my head. Very worrisome. mike kowalski 1500 FP Spit On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 7:16 AM, Duncan Charlton wrote: > $599 for the NecksGen that I have been using for about a year. Free > shipping > from this company: http://tinyurl.com/l7zpewj > > Duncan > (Texas) > > On Jul 31, 2013, at 7:20 PM, Rocky Entriken wrote: > > > $645 (and free shipping) at Saferacer for HANS Sport Series II -- > http://www.saferacer.com/hans-device-sport-series-ii-hans-device > > > > --Rocky > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sm1ski@dslextreme.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 2 14:12:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4CBD4054B for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 14:12:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.196]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1EAD4044F for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 14:08:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vwm19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (vwm19.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.10.49]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0MQX00NXZ6MC3E70@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 16:08:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [67.83.138.143] by webtop.webmail.optimum.net with HTTP; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 16:08:36 -0400 Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2013 16:08:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Redmond To: Bob Kramer References: <59464FD4C3784C2D9E191AF12E1D7C05@hpd530> <43944133-24CD-46E5-9EB0-AA290A210D1F@gmail.com> <84C7F648-FFD1-4D48-8B2D-7AB94B8DD24B@austin.rr.com> <6A2022BA-CEFC-459D-9F50-CA6C96BB08A9@austin.rr.com> <000001ce8f9c$c86b7a00$59426e00$@com> <9403E3AD-94DD-4F12-845E-077582BBBA26@austin.rr.com> User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" , "R. John Lye" Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FoT I use the Isaac Head and Neck system. B It is SFI 38.1 safe as required. B Side to side movement is a little restricted but probably a 30deg movement on either side. B No complaints with anything, comfort or otherwise.B Quick exit too! http://www.isaacdirect.com/html/product.html My 2 cents Todd On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 01:40 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: > Good point! > > Bob Kramer > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 2, 2013, at 12:28 PM, "R. John Lye" wrote: > >> Then the helmet was way, way too big. There's no way >> that a properly fitted helmet should allow your head >> to rotate that much. >> >> John >> >> On Fri, August 2, 2013 12:24 pm, MadMarx wrote: >>> I tried once a HANS without the sliding straps. >>> After turning the head I was blind because the helmet didn't turn >>> and the >>> visor was now on my left ear. >>> >>> That's whay I purchased a sliding HANS. :-) >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- >>> Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] >>> Im >>> Auftrag von Greg And Alison Blake >>> Gesendet: Freitag, 2. August 2013 03:00 >>> An: Bob Kramer >>> Cc: fot@autox.team.net >>> Betreff: Re: [Fot] HANS >>> >>> Ditto. After one event, I didn't notice a difference. Very happy >>> with >>> purchase. Of course, it delayed the purchase of a gear set. >>> >>> On Aug 1, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: >>> >>>> I'd read about the need to turn your head at least in those >>>> situations >>>> and even on grid. It seemed critical for us road racers to have >>>> some >>>> side to >>> side >>>> freedom thus we selected the NecksGen. I've been happy with mine. >>>> >>>> Bob Kramer >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Aug 1, 2013, at 8:16 AM, Duncan Charlton >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> $599 for the NecksGen that I have been using for about a year. >>>>> Free >>>> shipping >>>>> from this company: http://tinyurl.com/l7zpewj >>>>> >>>>> Duncan >>>>> (Texas) >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 31, 2013, at 7:20 PM, Rocky Entriken wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> $645 (and free shipping) at Saferacer for HANS Sport Series II -- >>>>> http://www.saferacer.com/hans-device-sport-series-ii-hans-device >>>>>> >>>>>> --Rocky >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>>> >>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>> >>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 2 14:43:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D37CD40552 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 14:43:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm25-vm9.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm25-vm9.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF76840526 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 14:42:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.162] by nm25.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2013 20:42:07 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.57] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2013 20:42:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp110.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2013 20:42:07 -0000 StFIRdfOGBzV_YEwaEM.yjyGXDALbCViKlnu_kF7SayjIQbFFx35GkOVfwVJ _saMmKBSbu6CJRG512DTEEWXm4WbrPCWWKHQrHAjI5OZfhiDsZGHd0Rd345w .OA8yxWjtO5oX4WIUpYNdAlY.uU5A1hEMjAyLB9cy2YTfMTxsUq8r3yKKA5q 0bRCJE0EZEXXj1c6MWE9Ods7C9qmzbkaPj9JkWJ4Ws_G3v5j92AZtpcY78vk oRdB3GE4_z6U1AYwLfEBbnj_9Wp3.77tjNSAZbu1vKL3HAe6DWNoYDXc0h5O WiHbqnFGTxbpZaaoqFfX0dYiuc5_y_k9Wx_PCoJocQ3zYbP4fM0l.3d39eLP 2GxpJd7svAcDfFMoF44L0AU9wWEzlL8NsMJQdL3diiDNtzDYMW3FpMmcZ9k. HTsyWqzSSM8tPgQiu4YeGUBpSdfm_AAIeKKseoVCcNMFxFOk.dxygM2NOVg9 yXayOQhXbdWyhtQ7o7nu.h_AAVAivHEErpDWBN4Tc2NOhNXqxIw-- plain) by smtp110.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 02 Aug 2013 13:42:07 -0700 PDT Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2013 15:42:17 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: Randall References: <24.E6.09254.25529F15@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] A type O.D. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I normally shim them with plan hardware store washers that are about 1/16". These old springs always seem to be a little week, but I have never had to use more than two to get an OD back to spec. I checked several manuals (but not the TR4 workshop manual) when we wrote the articles. There were often discrepancies between different sources. I think the accepted spec for a large accumulator is about 360 psi and 450 for a small accumulator. The change to the small accumulator was made to give a more gentle engagement for the IRS cars. I can't remember exactly what I did to get my large accumulator to 525. Since the inner spring doesn't do much, I may have used a small accumulator spring as the inner spring or used a plug to shim the inner spring more than the outer spring. Sam and I should revise the article, if it only takes 1/4 inch to reach coil bind one must be very careful. Larry On 7/31/2013 9:55 AM, Randall wrote: > I'm sorry, Larry, I don't recall the thickness of washers. Maybe > around 3/16". It was a large accumulator, and I had shimmed it from > around 300 (no shims) to around 450 psi (original TR4 workshop manual > says that 490-510 "is required" even though the Bentley gives > 380-400)). At 300, the OD wouldn't always grab in 2nd gear, so I knew > that was too low. After the damage was discovered, I loaded the main > spring (which I believe was original to the unit, but with a whole > lotta miles on it) into a hydraulic press and measured the length with > it compressed solid. Combined with all the other measurements, I > believe that the spring was reaching coil bind with the ports > uncovered only about 1/4 of the way. The relief ports were definitely > opening enough to flow some oil during bench testing, but as I'm sure > you are aware, the pump output volume is a direct function of shaft > rpm and they were apparently not able to open far enough to handle the > entire pump output at higher rpm. I was also using cheap motor oil > during bench testing (saving the MT-90 for the road) so it's possible > the oil change had some impact as well. Nelson also wrote about > finding coil bind, but he found it on the bench with around 1/4" of > shims. It just hadn't occurred to me that it was possible for the vent > holes to be only partially uncovered when the spring bound. I'm pretty > sure that "root cause" is that my spring was old and sagged from it's > original dimensions. Unfortunately, I didn't have a new one on hand to > compare against (or I would have just installed the new one). At the > time, they were backordered at all US vendors (and the one I ordered > from the UK didn't come in for over a month). (Moss actually changed > the part number and doubled the price, so I'm guessing that a new > manufacturer had to be found.) -- Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 2 16:28:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A02A42AFD for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 16:28:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f44.google.com (mail-ee0-f44.google.com [74.125.83.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DBF40079 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 16:19:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f44.google.com with SMTP id b47so563872eek.17 for ; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 15:19:13 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=cE/c5C9p/QbJ5jnut7rsT+tz6ZjPdSyJ8ZVsShfV2G0=; b=wyMwFQMQM9sbSD1sDP2SJDQlZOjmzahVZn726YLkQSZgJjuUqIVZReAtP4pn9ZRxZo 6PH4YTXOPw600jphnlgANA+iuBN9cwZ4fu58I2gWU/NQnNjmqWZfanhkWKEKFkadBCqJ 6Rga/Y3xGKSXXDcaEBIXzQxcOB/JUhkjjtRYNFGhROu5t6P/I+XlR/hd/x2651cYxkkp lnKbmxbF6zSfTgYUV1sxM/CO4uCyb88BUvKlrTSVxxR3c83uG/Ub1KxqDBTvVd8Zf+Ga OsK02RxHQ0+I+ZSzjZfoYgqFfpwX/5+1qjrcHJkAPfdJXFpdaNPajoGGfd5b1TvZ9Ao4 P88g== p7mr7416502eef.16.1375481953363; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 15:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.171.11.245]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id a4sm15281587eez.0.2013.08.02.15.19.11 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 02 Aug 2013 15:19:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'R. John Lye'" References: <59464FD4C3784C2D9E191AF12E1D7C05@hpd530> <43944133-24CD-46E5-9EB0-AA290A210D1F@gmail.com> <84C7F648-FFD1-4D48-8B2D-7AB94B8DD24B@austin.rr.com> <6A2022BA-CEFC-459D-9F50-CA6C96BB08A9@austin.rr.com> <000001ce8f9c$c86b7a00$59426e00$@com> Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 00:19:09 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6PpapOCEUrBjHmTLy4xJDpbKkVtAAKH5Nw Content-Language: de Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It was a test helmet on a trade fair. :-) I just sat down on the racing seat and tried it out when my sight went gone. -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: R. John Lye [mailto:rjl6n@cstone.net] Gesendet: Freitag, 2. August 2013 19:28 An: MadMarx Cc: 'Greg And Alison Blake'; 'Bob Kramer'; fot@autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] HANS Then the helmet was way, way too big. There's no way that a properly fitted helmet should allow your head to rotate that much. John On Fri, August 2, 2013 12:24 pm, MadMarx wrote: > I tried once a HANS without the sliding straps. > After turning the head I was blind because the helmet didn't turn and > the visor was now on my left ear. > > That's whay I purchased a sliding HANS. :-) > > Chris > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im > Auftrag von Greg And Alison Blake > Gesendet: Freitag, 2. August 2013 03:00 > An: Bob Kramer > Cc: fot@autox.team.net > Betreff: Re: [Fot] HANS > > Ditto. After one event, I didn't notice a difference. Very happy with > purchase. Of course, it delayed the purchase of a gear set. > > On Aug 1, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: > >> I'd read about the need to turn your head at least in those >> situations and even on grid. It seemed critical for us road racers to >> have some side to > side >> freedom thus we selected the NecksGen. I've been happy with mine. >> >> Bob Kramer >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 1, 2013, at 8:16 AM, Duncan Charlton >> >> wrote: >> >>> $599 for the NecksGen that I have been using for about a year. Free >> shipping >>> from this company: http://tinyurl.com/l7zpewj >>> >>> Duncan >>> (Texas) >>> >>> On Jul 31, 2013, at 7:20 PM, Rocky Entriken wrote: >>> >>>> $645 (and free shipping) at Saferacer for HANS Sport Series II -- >>> http://www.saferacer.com/hans-device-sport-series-ii-hans-device >>>> >>>> --Rocky >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 2 17:00:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C81942B15 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 17:00:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03A342AC2 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 16:57:14 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=qZqGDTaqHSsA:10 a=ybZZDoGAAAAA:8 a=2vEpGfL8Sv0GygV_e40A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=qIVjreYYsbEA:10 a=6A/OvQor+YwyjOO4FWhaEA==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.161] ([10.127.132.161:57527] helo=cdptpa-web10-z02) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 9C/20-15971-9493CF15; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 22:57:13 +0000 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 22:57:13 +0000 From: Randall Cc: fot@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [Fot] A type O.D. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Larry Young wrote: > I checked > several manuals (but not the TR4 workshop manual) when we wrote the > articles. There were often discrepancies between different sources. I agree. But I believe that part of those discrepancies are that the OD operating pressure was customized for every car/engine (and of course for IRS). Some people seem to feel that it should be the same for all cars, but the factory didn't see it that way. For example, the original A-type service manual (from Triumph, PN 502274) specifically gives different values for the TR2 and the Vanguard/Renown. Service bulletin T-64-3 quotes a range of from 360 psi to 520 psi for the A-type (presumably large accumulator since I don't think any Triumphs had IRS in 1963). And the TR6 workshop calls for 410-430; while the Stag workshop calls for 480-500 (both small accumulator A-type). > Since the inner > spring doesn't do much, I may have used a small accumulator spring as > the inner spring That's an interesting thought. I didn't think it would fit, but I may not have checked it. > or used a plug to shim the inner spring more than the > outer spring. That's what I did (after taking out one of the shims on the main spring), but it still didn't do much. ISTR a 3/4" plug only raised the pressure about 30 psi. I assume the main function of the inner spring is to reduce resonance effects. Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 2 19:20:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B1542B43 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 19:20:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail201c2.megamailservers.com (mail201c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6282640079 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 19:20:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.234.186.181] (140.sub-174-228-65.myvzw.com [174.228.65.140]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail201c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r731JvjD016645 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 2 Aug 2013 21:20:00 -0400 References: <20130802225713.HM576.32445.root@cdptpa-web10-z02> From: John Hasty Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 21:19:55 -0400 To: Randall a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=w/VtJA2cT3gk+rejXP7XVw==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=ybZZDoGAAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=LfHrcpaZFh7EB-W97AQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=qIVjreYYsbEA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=w/VtJA2cT3gk+rejXP7XVw==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] A type O.D. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Randall, while all this tech talk is way over my head, I can attest to the fact that after 3 years and 18 races what ever size washer Larry used, it works just fine. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 2, 2013, at 6:57 PM, Randall wrote: > ---- Larry Young wrote: >> I checked >> several manuals (but not the TR4 workshop manual) when we wrote the >> articles. There were often discrepancies between different sources. > > I agree. But I believe that part of those discrepancies are that the OD operating pressure was customized for every car/engine (and of course for IRS). Some people seem to feel that it should be the same for all cars, but the factory didn't see it that way. For example, the original A-type service manual (from Triumph, PN 502274) specifically gives different values for the TR2 and the Vanguard/Renown. Service bulletin T-64-3 quotes a range of from 360 psi to 520 psi for the A-type (presumably large accumulator since I don't think any Triumphs had IRS in 1963). And the TR6 workshop calls for 410-430; while the Stag workshop calls for 480-500 (both small accumulator A-type). > >> Since the inner >> spring doesn't do much, I may have used a small accumulator spring as >> the inner spring > > That's an interesting thought. I didn't think it would fit, but I may not have checked it. > >> or used a plug to shim the inner spring more than the >> outer spring. > > That's what I did (after taking out one of the shims on the main spring), but it still didn't do much. ISTR a 3/4" plug only raised the pressure about 30 psi. I assume the main function of the inner spring is to reduce resonance effects. > > Randall > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 2 19:36:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E526942B4E for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 19:36:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy3-pub.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy3-pub.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.30.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 74565429C3 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 19:35:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 22264 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2013 01:35:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy3.unifiedlayer.com) (66.147.243.72) by gproxy3.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 2013 01:35:55 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com (just64.justhost.com [173.254.28.64]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.84); Sat, 03 Aug 2013 01:35:55 GMT Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=62272 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V5Ql8-0003Qy-Qn for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 19:35:54 -0600 Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2013 20:35:49 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews References: <59464FD4C3784C2D9E191AF12E1D7C05@hpd530> <43944133-24CD-46E5-9EB0-AA290A210D1F@gmail.com> <84C7F648-FFD1-4D48-8B2D-7AB94B8DD24B@austin.rr.com> <6A2022BA-CEFC-459D-9F50-CA6C96BB08A9@austin.rr.com> <000001ce8f9c$c86b7a00$59426e00$@com> <9403E3AD-94DD-4F12-845E-077582BBBA26@austin.rr.com> <7ee3dca.31fe.14040a567de.Webtop.49@optonline.net> {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I run a HANS that was a gift from some concerned folks. It has the sliding strap system. Barely notice it while running, can turn my head as much as I care to. I suspect that if Uncle Jack had been wearing a HANS that I'd still be racing with him... 'nuff said. Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 2 20:03:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2073942B61 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 20:03:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB0242AEE for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 19:58:58 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=qZqGDTaqHSsA:10 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=-PEsVU9abr4GCo5kTqcA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=6A/OvQor+YwyjOO4FWhaEA==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.161] ([10.127.132.161:59672] helo=cdptpa-web10-z02) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 9D/B2-05415-2E36CF15; Sat, 03 Aug 2013 01:58:58 +0000 Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 1:58:58 +0000 From: Randall To: John Hasty Sensitivity: Normal Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] A type O.D. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net ---- John Hasty wrote: > Randall, while all this tech talk is way over my head, I can attest to the > fact that after 3 years and 18 races what ever size washer Larry used, it > works just fine. I'm not arguing with that in the slightest, John. In fact, I'm not trying to suggest that Larry has done anything "wrong" at all. He knows what he's doing, and he's good at it. Just trying to transfer a little more information that I felt was lacking in the otherwise excellent article that he and Sam Clark wrote for the VTR web site. Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 2 21:53:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC3E042B6A for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 21:53:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm44-vm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm44-vm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.29]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA30540572 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 21:51:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.149] by nm44.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Aug 2013 03:51:20 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.246] by tm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Aug 2013 03:51:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1055.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Aug 2013 03:51:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 15332 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Aug 2013 03:51:20 -0000 s=s1024; t=1375501880; bh=ixkSxik2AQvhDnozULayqoeZpPeLQwAGHx7huCjMeB4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=i7ei+FxAauSLWz9+GX8vTDhQVPeXL6mT3300tXmKvl0jVSV8gPwdmWz+5WyRN/E/y4zm1F2eMRDLo6tl5F/0533OJhH3FcL+C3Kn0lh3uKQgMXTitgh0fCfBVTrRGOjGRCofe43j10sg8lpLNLfPuQ5gNKhVKg4GlWSE7PKjBWc= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=impnqBXMcyM1Px79KBLT4JFObSRagf40gQPVq1517uwTaoFjb6MflPzpzdwqtDw4qmPaQj9wm+azx4HpTaFoZ6N6bP1BAJc+3WX+Bf7yQyM+JWytrkTk9d9Qy3KCCcq1ZfZ1IWJKJqehcsd6U+O+2Ue4kuTykwSgtdUmoYEQuN0=; ShewvK7fBwSMR.qhvZmB.0MxqecvtE8gvWEReT5iWUNo2BI_2cSJwSA9kexv AB_hDrer_XVzDV1i4j8bNMAeKBAF_MKiVVpG2IPrp7WT3eEKillSXecuAwMP XbojI5ipagkpSfAeQwY9QKMvjMZ1vRlQ50vaoNEk3QVGJI_.qtEUJmnB0CKg _909iw1tfG5p7b0nLrMuIR.Wc3DT1VRwZnQ32y9wDU_HGr7DnV5fuDyMAHvw Pum_p4I3PAark_rptKY2LyJyqCDcdjLRIXbwS622JotmuopxB_n.hZLxzOAc 3h6N2AZYj89iWeGn9fvSFSGxZPVqajk4mzIddWoxR7MR_xK72OpKAhSyhsZZ kui6ea2RSAcPFs8NkFSbwpXSf5wfv.d8.l4ygh3IDL3Mo5L9q7cGxZD9HJ9e BfjQg0NChrIz9.NhiQyHEbrETLUv0zNOPnxyYj0re1n3v1SMDAECBYWjVvNC K3VcreN6NJYw9qaFNQ56e7TrFy5dC9MfG98x07VlFfjaPT19dhAB1C9x.NBJ UaV0_1vPdFG_MbrvNzTcqnNzZrDoHyEGs.vKMWe2ExIj.TLpXGyz2t4JBIIV 4lELC_29GMVrEo9WWFrBewTxnRW3LWuFGuATiz4_wi72xlA-- Received: from [66.192.188.2] by web160906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 20:51:20 PDT SSBkaXR0byBUb255J3MgaW5zaWdodC7CoCBJIGhhdmUgcnVuIHRoZSBIQU5TIGJvdGggd2hpbGUgZHJpdmluZyB0aGUgUmFiYml0ICh3aXRoIGEgcm9vZikgYW5kIHRoZSBUUjQuwqAgSSBvbmx5IG5vdGljZSBpdCBhdCBwcmUtZ3JpZC7CoCBOZXZlciBub3RpY2UgaXQgaXMgZXZlbiBvbiB3aGlsZSBvbiB0aGUgdHJhY2suwqAgCiAKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCiBGcm9tOiBUb255IERyZXdzIDx0b255QHRvbnlkcmV3cy5jb20.ClRvOiBmb3RAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQgClNlbnQBMAEBAQE- References: <59464FD4C3784C2D9E191AF12E1D7C05@hpd530> <43944133-24CD-46E5-9EB0-AA290A210D1F@gmail.com> <84C7F648-FFD1-4D48-8B2D-7AB94B8DD24B@austin.rr.com> <6A2022BA-CEFC-459D-9F50-CA6C96BB08A9@austin.rr.com> <000001ce8f9c$c86b7a00$59426e00$@com> <9403E3AD-94DD-4F12-845E-077582BBBA26@austin.rr.com> <7ee3dca.31fe.14040a567de.Webtop.49@optonline.net> <20130803013600.043E042B40@autox.team.net> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 20:51:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Mehl To: Tony Drews , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I ditto Tony's insight. I have run the HANS both while driving the Rabbit (with a roof) and the TR4. I only notice it at pre-grid. Never notice it is even on while on the track. ________________________________ From: Tony Drews To: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS I run a HANS that was a gift from some concerned folks. It has the sliding strap system. Barely notice it while running, can turn my head as much as I care to. I suspect that if Uncle Jack had been wearing a HANS that I'd still be racing with him... 'nuff said. Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mike.mehl@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 3 07:39:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76B642B58 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 07:39:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m05.mx.aol.com (omr-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C6C40532 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 07:36:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by omr-m05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4BF1D700ABD22; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 09:36:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtd005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtd005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.209]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0A46EE000085; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 09:36:46 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 09:36:45 -0400 (EDT) To: mike.mehl@yahoo.com, tony@tonydrews.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375537006; bh=Zj0QUw+pMc8UKTK0QTkMOfqrEKjmldhs6ul602dfYuo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=t0MjjzpWZtZcaiFFmcNgjFd1cSB1gMMoQu2MBiM9+hwqyK59LHKKxcTxtnBx+jdLb cdmZsB50x5+j/PX6Eyr7BB1sn04gC5lfHxh9ABDi1G3mPzzMoeONkJiRiKdF7lhpXz 9ByvqN+BCb3nCUt+4dtqokzye59EelHwk15KhzMo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d51fd076e4c69 Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 08/02/2013 10:52:58 PM Central Daylight Time, mike.mehl@yahoo.com writes: > I ditto Tony's insight. I have run the HANS both while driving the > Rabbit > (with a roof) and the TR4. I only notice it at pre-grid. Never notice it > is > even on while on the track. > It's not unlike arm restraints, which were originally 'encouraged, but not mandatory in vintage racing her in the Midwest. When VSCDA decided to make them mandatory, I was one of the balkers. But then I watched a video Motorsports photographer, Gordon Jolley, had made showing a Sprite doing a half dozen barrel rolls at the bottom of the hill at Road Atlanta (arm flailing in the breeze). I decided maybe arm restraints was a good idea. And, of course, while they felt somewhat restrictive when I first put them on, they were of no consequence whatsoever, once the green flag dropped. It is the same with the HANS and similar. And as difficult as it is to bring up and revisit it, Uncle Jack's fatal incident at GRATTAN is a classic example. As Tony said, had he been wearing a HANS device, in all likelihood, he'd still be with us. It's evolution, and you've got to pay attention. Recently, my sister sent me a greeting card that had a picture of a 1930ish European Grand Prix starting grid. All full of great, old formula racers. The drivers had helmets (sort of), and goggles, but no seat belts, roll bars, or other safety equipment. Not only that, most had short sleeve shirts. One was smoking. We've evolved since then, and are still learning. Bill Dentinger PS One of the drivers, my money says he was British, clearly had a shirt and tie on underneath his short sleeved coveralls. I love that. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 3 07:56:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF43742B8F for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 07:56:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m05.mx.aol.com (omr-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C7540450 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 07:54:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.194]) by omr-m05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E9D7A700000A5 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 09:54:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.53.75.189] (mobile-198-228-224-124.mycingular.net [198.228.224.124]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id A1ED3E00092F for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 09:54:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Bock Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 09:54:44 -0400 To: FoTTriumph x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375538086; bh=4eMDX6tXqiyzsFp50B836+WWnZuLW6xjUlh1Qz7YtJU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=uSy2ma13Mf4w1HkbDLq/7eNdnuT4V9Wm90A/azRDdgKOCKnRSi+enUXZexGSTNlMB yT5Vg0AM9Pk6CCEpbasV/FuAb+gUnVU1c7cJXJF++f+dcrrfT7j22hQ7kS3V81f3N9 XsN1tQXBC3iCC5OftDBN4AUb8xgYJD4BHteNAr9w= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c251fd0ba63508 Subject: [Fot] Coil over shocks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici For all of you that race, here is a shock question for you. If you have a standard shock on your car can it be replace with an adjustable coil over shock? Is it against the rules? I haven't talked to any governing body about this. I just wanted to ask you guys first. Thanks _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 3 11:19:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1BC040512 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 11:19:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from sitemail.siteprotect.com (sitemail.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.155]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339644042C for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 11:19:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by app04.sm.onr.chicago.hostway (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F13740064F; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 12:19:39 -0500 (CDT) To: "FoTTriumph" , "Christopher Bock" Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 12:19:39 -0500 From: Charly Subject: Re: [Fot] Coil over shocks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }In our group in the PNW, SOVREN, we aren't allowed to change the style of shock, front or rear. I believe the location is restricted to original mounting also. SOVREN is a vintage racing group which adheres to the rules of the year pretty closely. So in our group it would be against the rules, as would Webber carbys, fiberglass panels, aluminum heads, non original brakes, 5 speed transmissions and a whole bunch of other upgrades which aren't for safety. Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 On Sat 03/08/13 6:54 AM , Christopher Bock SeaCubeCo@aol.com sent: Amici For all of you that race, here is a shock question for you. If you have a standard shock on your car can it be replace with an adjustable coil over shock? Is it against the rules? I haven't talked to any governing body about this. I just wanted to ask you guys first. Thanks _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com [2] Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html [3] Archive: http://www.team.net/archive [4] Forums: http://www.team.net/forums [5] Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ [6] Links: ------ [2] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fot-racing .com [3] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Fdonate.html [4] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Farchive [5] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Fforums [6] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net %2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Ffot%2Fcharly%40mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 3 12:20:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F41C40542 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 12:20:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f52.google.com (mail-bk0-f52.google.com [209.85.214.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7670440422 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 12:12:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-bk0-f52.google.com with SMTP id e11so548472bkh.25 for ; Sat, 03 Aug 2013 11:12:56 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=cifnpJtPYVsZ70ogLji8/Q4jbZQCinbTlBIcjksemOE=; b=dzbll5HF1WGKhh/YioRSsTIKEym24PszllIihJn1Rg8X9QNN3LeRulw151WCo3m7K1 KqY/wqI4PuwztfGoh75hTJIY3eZtggLK4gxOCbR5QYncdFWxkZktic9PVwrKY2RuMS7X gmmwrnwDDSybBBvWKcOkgq4iyHlrkToZrgqKg8zCDpub9kSYipG0i8EK8Bb0UpFYkhWu 0sYTvBwigXPU2C1a9OxTKugMQccK15Mcl8NeE5LFV1yMUiLhK8tkroR5k3ZnO9K04bbd Qog3SHV+iYEurJjcTg85UYMd6aHLGT1e2fEdhXpeHbKVVHGER5DQ1swS2Q/M9w98X6qm J5Pw== ix17mr1896844bkb.11.1375553576357; Sat, 03 Aug 2013 11:12:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([46.78.139.199]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ct12sm3116194bkb.12.2013.08.03.11.12.54 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 03 Aug 2013 11:12:55 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Christopher Bock'" , "'FoTTriumph'" References: Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 20:12:55 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6QUUvfJTF1x6+jQQS4qTQN+vdbZQAI5TbA Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Coil over shocks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Our racing group allows telescopic shock conversions. Seems that they don't have much profit and rise the weight of the car. I still on stock lever shocks and my car is doing quite well with it. Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Christopher Bock Gesendet: Samstag, 3. August 2013 15:55 An: FoTTriumph Betreff: [Fot] Coil over shocks Amici For all of you that race, here is a shock question for you. If you have a standard shock on your car can it be replace with an adjustable coil over shock? Is it against the rules? I haven't talked to any governing body about this. I just wanted to ask you guys first. Thanks _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 3 13:21:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9CE74052A for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 13:21:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm2-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm2-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.94]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D32A42AC2 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 16:56:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.161] by nm2.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2013 22:56:24 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.214] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2013 22:56:24 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp103.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2013 22:56:24 -0000 CnCRTNvsFM1SghxHqg872Lrmg8oq1ZyC77.sGLArt8kB92_AVS1Q0ppXcFmC ANfaPKRuuewplgjXDLddxXWaqtWRtZdP1bQVuLV9ZYqph.twcfwKFjbdQ2L0 yejqt5weG7cldOzYkN4iH9SqkHAAbA8BibbcHAR.ZEHRUpIB8J8Ah3DU0S24 W4nnCTCUQOo2LlnoNa4HyAVZ3noIh5lC6NykCh.KMkiuK99NLHyYZMFSwfol ECg7baFech5s.1ad4Jdzm3P.fI8QnwGtEUHn3VWWwXkLKvcM116OgkmrzLQm e9qhtnAOk7db25GQbR4QN2lz4_je2ivqtBl3Mois03ma1DlEetCZudUj_J1r gLFVgk7niB9areqCyKVPj8z4LYvJh18CxqzLndDOWeP3.FDcGjyaVwY_SgyX dtThPhk4RtV3ZtN0gfgXJp.9TFviBBC3wMRZM2kiPHvYhzail5K7jg.FwxI9 VUDwvUchXhy8Sh4XA.KSqRAZBrU4G0lOobPYYWjGs6RgJTYP_wG2fGExASTe ltlGJqrH3sPAy3tijve2ZjNDBrcC4529tm.hUy1d7EQ_uB89wh8Snf1V0yDv J1.1HkcQ- smtp103.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 02 Aug 2013 22:56:24 +0000 UTC From: "Rocky Entriken" To: "chris crisenbery" , "FoT Triumph" References: <1375306346.27270.YahooMailNeo@web160606.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 17:56:41 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] SCCA Road America & HProd Spitfire Excitement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wow! As a dedicated regional-race Spitfire backmarker, I'll sympathize. I've never had the shaft fail like that -- been driving mine (street, then race & autox) since 1966, race-prepped in '71 -- but I've had that knuckle that connects the shaft to the rack & pinion fail a couple of times, and it was loose again when I was prepping for my one foray into National racing and the 2011 Runoffs. So there's a nice shiny new (2 years old now) one in there now. Most interesting failure was on an airport circuit at Hutchinson, Ks., where it failed early on the 2nd lap of the race and I found by steering really gently I might nurse it back to the pits. I'd started 3rd and had quickly dropped to 7th. Well on that nurse-it-back lap I found if I didn't jerk the wheel I could make it turn -- what is it they tell novices about smooth hand movements? -- so I tried another lap. Then another. And began picking up positions. The only corner I really had to give up was the second half of a quick left-right chicane. Last lap I was up to 4th coming into the final turn and the car in 3rd had gone off and was doing his airport loop to come back on. "Car, you WILL make this turn!" I said, and it did, and I got my 3rd place back. In the paddock the car would turn no more. Had to put a jack under it to line it up with my trailer so I could push it on. I classify it now as one of those incredibly stupid things we do when we squeeze our brain with a helmet. But still fun. My one visit to RA was fun too, start DFL, finish 11th in the wet, and an experience that let me relate more to (and enjoy) your description. I know you'll do better than that in September and raise the Triumph flag high. Good luck. --Rocky Entriken ----- Original Message ----- From: "chris crisenbery" To: "FoT Triumph" Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:32 PM Subject: [Fot] SCCA Road America & HProd Spitfire Excitement > Hey everyone, > > Thought I might share last weekends adventure with you all and > also provide a PSA (Public Service Announcement) at the same time. > > It's been > a real interesting start for 2013, I'll transgress a little bit as it may > be > interesting to some. > > I've been racing my Triumph Spitfire in G and H since > 1989 and have had some limited success over the years. In 2008 I took some > time off from racing as the economy was in the tank and I knew that even > though I had had the track record at Road America my Spit wouldn't be > competitive with the new tin tops at the Runoffs. > > So fast forward to early > this year, I had been working out for roughly 4 months 5 times a week > doing > Kettlebell (a strength based aerobic workout) to get in better shape and > to > try and return to racing for the 50th Anniversary of the Run-Offs at RA > and > the last year at RA. Unfortunately I ended up injuring myself during a > workout suffering what they call a Distal Bicep Rupture which means I tore > my > bicep from it's mounting point on my forearm. This is the opposite end of > the > bicep when you tear your rotator cuff. You look up this injury and it > says > it's fairly rare 3% compared to the rotator injury 96% and it's most > common in > middle aged men.......OUCH! Kick a guy when he's down! > > This injury has a > long long heal time 5-6 months and this happened in March so I figured my > comback was kaput! However about 2 months into recovery the doctor said > that > even though he didn't think it was a good idea to go racing he would leave > it > up to my judgment...sounded like a YES to me! So I went racing after a 5 > year > hiatus! > > The Spit was carefully prepared....OK I lie, I put new belts in it > (I was required to), I treated the 6 year old slicks with Formula V, and > put > some new fuel in the cell. I also cleaned the rust off of the rotors. > Should > have changed the brake fluid, ran the valves, resealed the 4 piece wheels, > put > new slicks on it and nut and bolted the car.....but hey it ran when I > parked > it! > > My first weekend out was the Major's at Gingerman and due to some > attrition and a lot of luck I was able to score a 1st and a 2nd, so > scoring > enough points to make it to the RO was taken care of now I just needed 2 > more > finishes! > > Last weekend I headed to Road America with my top notch crew chief > my 14 year old daughter Sara! BTW I did do some prep on the Spit between > the > races I changed front springs and deglazed the brake pads! So hopefully it > would stop and turn in, something it didn't want to do at Gingerman. > > Qualifying was pretty uneventful other than I was dog slow, but I also > realized that the goal of the weekend was 2 finishes so that I could make > it > to the RO. Our race was early afternoon and I cruised around in last > place > watching the new Spec B cars dice, they look pretty fun but they aren't > real > fast. Our race was 12 laps long and once I hit the 6 laps to go I upped > my > RPM's a little as I new I had the first needed finish in the books. For > those > of you that know RA I was working lap 6 headed down into 5 which is at the > end > of a pretty fast section of down hill track. The car turned in well and I > accelerated up the hill and under the bridge into 6 a left hand turn > that's > medium fast. For those that were waiting for the PSA here it comes, when > I > turned in the steering felt a little funny as the car pushed (or seemed to > push a little)I chalked it up to the 6 year old Goodyear slicks. The next > corner is a fast right hander and the car turned in > well and I rocketed down the hill into 8.....this is where it gets > interesting! The down hill is very fast as I'm at around 7,500 rpms in > 3rd > and you need to brake pretty hard to turn left at 8. I downshifted > started to > turn in and got back onto the throttle about mid corner when the car made > a > violent right hand turn........I was pretty surprised as this was > definitely > not a push, I think my first clue was the fact that when I turned the > steering > wheel I found it wasn't attached to the steering rack anymore! My initial > thought was the wheel had come off the quick release and as I was rapidly > sliding across the track I took a quick look to see if I could reattach > the > wheel, unfortunately it was still attached to the shaft. I then focused > my > attention towards my final resting point (poor choice of words!) It looked > like the car might pass by the nearest tire wall and have another 20 feet > or > so to the next closest one, but NO the wheels were really > turned right so it kept the car pointed towards the nearer wall......thank > goodness there was a pea stone trap between me and the wall. The Spit > finally > stopped roughly 5 foot from the tire wall with no damage but a lot of > stones > EVERYWHERE! > > I won't bore you with the tow back or having to push the car to > impound as I still finished 3rd, but I will share with you what actually > failed. The notch that is in the tubular portion of the steering shaft > that > allows the collapsible solid shaft to move up in the event of an accident > had > developed little cracks and when I turned left into 6 it opened up giving > me > the impression that the car didn't turn in but "Pushed" but in fact the > shaft > just didn't turn the wheels as much as the loose nut behind the wheel had > asked and then when I turned into 7 the right it closed back up giving me > the > impression all was well! until I asked for another left where it failed > completely. > > I was able to get the shaft repaired by welding a collar over > the notch and was able to finish Sundays race with very little excitement > other than the B Spec that spun in front of me in turn 1 on the very first > lap. I am now qualified for the RO and will start to prep the Spit from > nose > to tail with all of the items I should have done prior. > > I have no idea if > any of you find these stories interesting or would like any updates, but > if > you do I would be willing to share a story every once in a while from my > 20 > plus years of racing and/or the prep I do for my return to the RunOffs. > > Cheers > > Chris Crisenbery > Rascal Racing > HP Triumph Spitfire > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rocky@spitfire4.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 3 13:23:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEAD740552 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 13:23:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CFF540450 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 07:54:26 -0600 (MDT) a=yr/eJ6S8SHGIc+/JdDlNag==:17 a=zkYuSOkxadoA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=n-2lNXRaITnGskz2w0UA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 a=ECtrulBQLzVb1MH5:21 a=y4bQXPmZ2pw5Kue4:21 a=yr/eJ6S8SHGIc+/JdDlNag==:117 Received: from [67.255.13.17] ([67.255.13.17:51455] helo=Shop) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 32/A3-25552-09B0DF15; Sat, 03 Aug 2013 13:54:25 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: , , , References: <331f6.606dcb69.3f2e616d@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 09:55:09 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6QTv76TxPogDdlSvOWzjbMm+/w6wAAT/0Q Content-Language: en-us Cc: 'Chris Meyers' , 'Mack McCormack' Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net My HANS saved my life a few years ago at Mosport. What most folks don't realize is that in a rollover your body can experience well over 6Gs. Without support serious injury is almost guaranteed. I am a firm believer. One fellow once told me he would just hang onto the steering wheel...... this is impossible with the forces you may experience. One of the best investments I ever made. Do your loved ones a favor folks. Russ Moore Spitfire #49 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BillDentin@aol.com Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 9:37 AM To: mike.mehl@yahoo.com; tony@tonydrews.com; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS In a message dated 08/02/2013 10:52:58 PM Central Daylight Time, mike.mehl@yahoo.com writes: > I ditto Tony's insight. I have run the HANS both while driving the > Rabbit > (with a roof) and the TR4. I only notice it at pre-grid. Never notice it > is > even on while on the track. > It's not unlike arm restraints, which were originally 'encouraged, but not mandatory in vintage racing her in the Midwest. When VSCDA decided to make them mandatory, I was one of the balkers. But then I watched a video Motorsports photographer, Gordon Jolley, had made showing a Sprite doing a half dozen barrel rolls at the bottom of the hill at Road Atlanta (arm flailing in the breeze). I decided maybe arm restraints was a good idea. And, of course, while they felt somewhat restrictive when I first put them on, they were of no consequence whatsoever, once the green flag dropped. It is the same with the HANS and similar. And as difficult as it is to bring up and revisit it, Uncle Jack's fatal incident at GRATTAN is a classic example. As Tony said, had he been wearing a HANS device, in all likelihood, he'd still be with us. It's evolution, and you've got to pay attention. Recently, my sister sent me a greeting card that had a picture of a 1930ish European Grand Prix starting grid. All full of great, old formula racers. The drivers had helmets (sort of), and goggles, but no seat belts, roll bars, or other safety equipment. Not only that, most had short sleeve shirts. One was smoking. We've evolved since then, and are still learning. Bill Dentinger PS One of the drivers, my money says he was British, clearly had a shirt and tie on underneath his short sleeved coveralls. I love that. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 3 14:23:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A424054A for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 14:23:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail175c2.megamailservers.com (mail175c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A4F64044E for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 14:13:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.234.186.181] (140.sub-174-228-65.myvzw.com [174.228.65.140]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail175c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r73KDUR7007858 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 3 Aug 2013 16:13:33 -0400 References: <000c01ce9075$14cac710$3e605530$@com> From: John Hasty Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 16:13:29 -0400 To: MadMarx a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=w/VtJA2cT3gk+rejXP7XVw==:17 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=8cASciprH4v9XA37d9cA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=w/VtJA2cT3gk+rejXP7XVw==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: FoTTriumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Coil over shocks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Adjustable Armstrongs are available @ the work just fine Sent from my iPhone On Aug 3, 2013, at 2:12 PM, "MadMarx" wrote: > Our racing group allows telescopic shock conversions. > Seems that they don't have much profit and rise the weight of the car. > I still on stock lever shocks and my car is doing quite well with it. > > Chris > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im > Auftrag von Christopher Bock > Gesendet: Samstag, 3. August 2013 15:55 > An: FoTTriumph > Betreff: [Fot] Coil over shocks > > Amici > For all of you that race, here is a shock question for you. > > If you have a standard shock on your car can it be replace with an > adjustable coil over shock? Is it against the rules? > > I haven't talked to any governing body about this. I just wanted to ask you > guys first. > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 3 14:24:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4A640552 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 14:24:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f46.google.com (mail-bk0-f46.google.com [209.85.214.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D354044E for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 14:17:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-bk0-f46.google.com with SMTP id 6so555276bkj.5 for ; Sat, 03 Aug 2013 13:17:36 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=6Famt+/K0XVlyu+hVBMojILhr/vMvrRNzSRfU0D9R9k=; b=Q0IAbtJdGuzBtXQ2le59KIDbh12i3uxXIcsww4dZ9TnMafb591yVbe+8I/2lRFbDQT 8LB22yHLGBwX4hIB3YAtCW0eb7kropjwQ4h6fBXhySMzxse/EqSDEqVwFkfW91WvVQss zA7l5PDxGEUZlg29QBTefCZjEOeg5cGqZqZK8+vRjQ+OTmMkgnl/VRokCunRVg7LZuJS seXe/7C/PJi1xGJe4PJWjr+Y7/YKfGfBAWcH1U+26gJM5/CapOWEl2/BvgoSuvKNceSN S/e1mkTEsj8lPv6aIDnWLWBRxGRUOrXIHoAgpJu3+v0xOCzHYYRM7aZ0YueN2q/Dcvd4 Fq1A== Sat, 03 Aug 2013 13:17:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([46.78.139.199]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qw6sm3199662bkb.4.2013.08.03.13.17.35 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 03 Aug 2013 13:17:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'John Hasty'" References: <000c01ce9075$14cac710$3e605530$@com> Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 22:17:35 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6QhfEUqGIHER54QdyXmLMhLEMSygAAGDIg Content-Language: de Cc: 'FoTTriumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Coil over shocks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I don't have those. Tony (GB) offered me a pair but mine work fine and I feel no need for an upgrade. The ultimate shocks test is the Nordschleife and they do well there. -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: John Hasty [mailto:jhhasty@gdhs.com] Gesendet: Samstag, 3. August 2013 22:13 An: MadMarx Cc: Christopher Bock; FoTTriumph Betreff: Re: [Fot] Coil over shocks Adjustable Armstrongs are available @ the work just fine Sent from my iPhone On Aug 3, 2013, at 2:12 PM, "MadMarx" wrote: > Our racing group allows telescopic shock conversions. > Seems that they don't have much profit and rise the weight of the car. > I still on stock lever shocks and my car is doing quite well with it. > > Chris > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im > Auftrag von Christopher Bock > Gesendet: Samstag, 3. August 2013 15:55 > An: FoTTriumph > Betreff: [Fot] Coil over shocks > > Amici > For all of you that race, here is a shock question for you. > > If you have a standard shock on your car can it be replace with an > adjustable coil over shock? Is it against the rules? > > I haven't talked to any governing body about this. I just wanted to > ask you guys first. > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 3 14:40:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF00740552 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 14:40:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B494044E for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 14:29:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vwm17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (vwm17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.10.47]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-9.20 (built Jul 15 2010)) with ESMTPA id <0MQZ00J2F28F95M0@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Sat, 03 Aug 2013 16:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [67.83.138.143] by webtop.webmail.optimum.net with HTTP; Sat, 03 Aug 2013 16:29:03 -0400 Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 16:29:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Redmond To: John Hasty References: <000c01ce9075$14cac710$3e605530$@com> User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: FoTTriumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Coil over shocks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net John, Who sells the adjustable lever shocks? Todd On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 04:13 PM, John Hasty wrote: > Adjustable Armstrongs are available @ the work just fine > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 3, 2013, at 2:12 PM, "MadMarx" wrote: > >> Our racing group allows telescopic shock conversions. >> Seems that they don't have much profit and rise the weight of the >> car. >> I still on stock lever shocks and my car is doing quite well with it. >> >> Chris >> >> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] >> Im >> Auftrag von Christopher Bock >> Gesendet: Samstag, 3. August 2013 15:55 >> An: FoTTriumph >> Betreff: [Fot] Coil over shocks >> >> Amici >> For all of you that race, here is a shock question for you. >> >> If you have a standard shock on your car can it be replace with an >> adjustable coil over shock? Is it against the rules? >> >> I haven't talked to any governing body about this. I just wanted to >> ask > you >> guys first. >> >> Thanks >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 3 14:54:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1696640556 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 14:54:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail176c2.megamailservers.com (mail176c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7084044F for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 14:43:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.234.186.181] (140.sub-174-228-65.myvzw.com [174.228.65.140]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail176c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r73KhjHO004814 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 3 Aug 2013 16:43:48 -0400 References: <000c01ce9075$14cac710$3e605530$@com> <43e9d3d2.3ca9.14045de7e72.Webtop.47@optonline.net> From: John Hasty Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 16:43:44 -0400 To: Todd Redmond a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=w/VtJA2cT3gk+rejXP7XVw==:17 a=xRfjoxBpAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=Ze96msxwglxYkKg2h7kA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=bgAgzZxQv2QA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=w/VtJA2cT3gk+rejXP7XVw==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: FoTTriumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Coil over shocks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A guy in MI or some where up there. I'll look in when I get to office Mon & post it Sent from my iPhone On Aug 3, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Todd Redmond wrote: > John, > > > Who sells the adjustable lever shocks? > > > Todd > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 04:13 PM, John Hasty wrote: > >> Adjustable Armstrongs are available @ the work just fine >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 3, 2013, at 2:12 PM, "MadMarx" wrote: >> >>> Our racing group allows telescopic shock conversions. >>> Seems that they don't have much profit and rise the weight of the car. >>> I still on stock lever shocks and my car is doing quite well with it. >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- >>> Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im >>> Auftrag von Christopher Bock >>> Gesendet: Samstag, 3. August 2013 15:55 >>> An: FoTTriumph >>> Betreff: [Fot] Coil over shocks >>> >>> Amici >>> For all of you that race, here is a shock question for you. >>> >>> If you have a standard shock on your car can it be replace with an >>> adjustable coil over shock? Is it against the rules? >>> >>> I haven't talked to any governing body about this. I just wanted to ask >> you >>> guys first. >>> >>> Thanks >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 3 15:25:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC5E40449 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 15:25:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d08.mx.aol.com (omr-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.207]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB68C403E2 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 15:14:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.197]) by omr-d08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 052D6700028C1 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 17:14:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id A1396E0000A1 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 17:14:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 16:14:43 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375564482; bh=uC3tYaPrS32gdENxAKsDmuQq9fOQ3elNzeF+6IDWsrY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=BbdmVXdRYJa7fF1NnKf9XYur1hAE2fmOvkvm4wBDA+hoXlc4wSuAl+oTwa4YTitGF ktezf8d9oIIeAXvkxi1zrOBD8NEitWGdyN8VMeF2dfwKbhFxoU5AyxN51dSBfn8bx2 XkPA2F20lXYFcu5Iw+OHma4dPllkP1/rdV3nWXYo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c551fd72c24bb4 Subject: [Fot] Adjustable lever shocks. Source Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Worldwideimportautoparts.com Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 3 15:25:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA7240569 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 15:25:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy3-pub.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy3-pub.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.30.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 639BB4044C for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 15:15:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 28341 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2013 21:15:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy2.unifiedlayer.com) (66.147.243.71) by gproxy3.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 2013 21:15:25 -0000 {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Received: from just64.justhost.com (just64.justhost.com [173.254.28.64]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.84); Sat, 03 Aug 2013 21:15:25 GMT Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=52218 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V5jAb-000599-Mi; Sat, 03 Aug 2013 15:15:25 -0600 Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 16:15:20 -0500 To: John Hasty ,Todd Redmond From: Tony Drews References: <000c01ce9075$14cac710$3e605530$@com> <43e9d3d2.3ca9.14045de7e72.Webtop.47@optonline.net> {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Cc: FoTTriumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Coil over shocks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Possibly Apple Hydraulics. Tony D At 03:43 PM 8/3/2013, John Hasty wrote: >A guy in MI or some where up there. I'll look in when I get to office Mon & >post it > >Sent from my iPhone > >On Aug 3, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Todd Redmond wrote: > > > John, > > > > > > Who sells the adjustable lever shocks? > > > > > > Todd > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 04:13 PM, John Hasty wrote: > > > >> Adjustable Armstrongs are available @ the work just fine > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On Aug 3, 2013, at 2:12 PM, "MadMarx" wrote: > >> > >>> Our racing group allows telescopic shock conversions. > >>> Seems that they don't have much profit and rise the weight of the car. > >>> I still on stock lever shocks and my car is doing quite well with it. > >>> > >>> Chris > >>> > >>> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > >>> Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im > >>> Auftrag von Christopher Bock > >>> Gesendet: Samstag, 3. August 2013 15:55 > >>> An: FoTTriumph > >>> Betreff: [Fot] Coil over shocks > >>> > >>> Amici > >>> For all of you that race, here is a shock question for you. > >>> > >>> If you have a standard shock on your car can it be replace with an > >>> adjustable coil over shock? Is it against the rules? > >>> > >>> I haven't talked to any governing body about this. I just wanted to ask > >> you > >>> guys first. > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> fot@autox.team.net > >>> > >>> http://www.fot-racing.com > >>> > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> fot@autox.team.net > >>> > >>> http://www.fot-racing.com > >>> > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 3 16:28:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6326A40555 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 16:28:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail202c2.megamailservers.com (mail202c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00F1403E2 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 16:16:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.235.186.204] (38.sub-174-252-146.myvzw.com [174.252.146.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail202c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r73MGN41024255 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 3 Aug 2013 18:16:26 -0400 References: <000c01ce9075$14cac710$3e605530$@com> <43e9d3d2.3ca9.14045de7e72.Webtop.47@optonline.net> <201308032115.r73LFRRY016595@mail166c2.megamailservers.com> From: John Hasty Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 18:16:21 -0400 To: Tony Drews a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=XWU+sKb0ocrtKYt0j5sPTQ==:17 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=xRfjoxBpAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=-uoAGgpugrF8EYpSY00A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 a=bgAgzZxQv2QA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=XWU+sKb0ocrtKYt0j5sPTQ==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: FoTTriumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Coil over shocks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Do n't think so tony. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 3, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > Possibly Apple Hydraulics. > > Tony D > > At 03:43 PM 8/3/2013, John Hasty wrote: >> A guy in MI or some where up there. I'll look in when I get to office Mon & >> post it >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 3, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Todd Redmond wrote: >> >> > John, >> > >> > >> > Who sells the adjustable lever shocks? >> > >> > >> > Todd >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 04:13 PM, John Hasty wrote: >> > >> >> Adjustable Armstrongs are available @ the work just fine >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> On Aug 3, 2013, at 2:12 PM, "MadMarx" wrote: >> >> >> >>> Our racing group allows telescopic shock conversions. >> >>> Seems that they don't have much profit and rise the weight of the car. >> >>> I still on stock lever shocks and my car is doing quite well with it. >> >>> >> >>> Chris >> >>> >> >>> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- >> >>> Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im >> >>> Auftrag von Christopher Bock >> >>> Gesendet: Samstag, 3. August 2013 15:55 >> >>> An: FoTTriumph >> >>> Betreff: [Fot] Coil over shocks >> >>> >> >>> Amici >> >>> For all of you that race, here is a shock question for you. >> >>> >> >>> If you have a standard shock on your car can it be replace with an >> >>> adjustable coil over shock? Is it against the rules? >> >>> >> >>> I haven't talked to any governing body about this. I just wanted to ask >> >> you >> >>> guys first. >> >>> >> >>> Thanks >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> fot@autox.team.net >> >>> >> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >>> >> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> fot@autox.team.net >> >>> >> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >>> >> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 3 16:29:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E95044069A for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 16:29:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail175c2.megamailservers.com (mail175c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B27D403E2 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 16:21:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.235.186.204] (38.sub-174-252-146.myvzw.com [174.252.146.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail175c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r73MLJWi005851 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 3 Aug 2013 18:21:22 -0400 References: From: John Hasty Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 18:21:17 -0400 To: Joe Alexander a=heqtJhygAcUA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=XWU+sKb0ocrtKYt0j5sPTQ==:17 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=XAOvcSAwAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=hmGlvf5J-SurVD-XEFoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=dsJAQD9D4Z4A:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=iomy7jNkvUoA:10 a=lavue_QkFkYA:10 a=XWU+sKb0ocrtKYt0j5sPTQ==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Adjustable lever shocks. Source Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That looks right Sent from my iPhone On Aug 3, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Worldwideimportautoparts.com > > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 3 17:31:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1402240562 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 17:31:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B0D403CF for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 17:20:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.109] (cpe-70-113-116-224.austin.res.rr.com [70.113.116.224]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MDiSs-1UpqIU2A0c-00HLQW; Sat, 03 Aug 2013 19:20:46 -0400 Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 18:19:07 -0500 From: The Fooddude To: fot@autox.team.net 9dIXgtBehaDTvXi3SEy3kmSc0jfZ9u87p1PlBxTu6xIPyaNmMy 4EYkYxrezk1NJhZrxrhVIYQnHNxL5kGvJofckDfBucQ7dIs+zm S213HLtlMuS0wurWwnaRYCVhh6E2orw6DZgcA/LAGo5osdzh0X 2YEMNG8BXMqRasRGk6o5QkXkG1WExL+gx3+6YzAIpoeRYhSYKa BqS0XAOZOKrNZMBwcePPG4S/3IEA+sdR8H0WhFQvtCtarsc3/O cOfuVz3tYdwwEKLogPpNZe0Bh1wpte+mAqKDpOUZV6CKdWj+QW A0UAkRLzAlXSoPirAtzcVmozHhkD7po+0gbO+t9VmSGlrRnCon A/PWtVt5Creye0XUYtVWqBw9NLZz7peims= Subject: [Fot] Tow rig regulations Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici,B Any insight as to various state regs re tow rigs and cdl's welcomed. B Fed rules appear under 10k empty and 26k loaded does not require cdl. B We have an f350 looking at a 48' vintage. B Thanks in advance. Sent via and typos courtesy wireless handheld device. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 3 17:32:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A34B240449 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 17:32:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1956C40445 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 17:27:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E80CA020C for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 17:27:36 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 17:27:35 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: fot@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Fot] Adjustable lever shocks. Source Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe Alexander wrote: > Worldwideimportautoparts.com > > Yes, Peter Caldwell, aka Peter the Parts Pimp, who I believe is a lurker on this list. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 3 18:02:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BACB74069A for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 18:02:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail176c2.megamailservers.com (mail176c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886A74042C for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 17:57:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.235.186.204] (38.sub-174-252-146.myvzw.com [174.252.146.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail176c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r73Nvi3e005512 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 3 Aug 2013 19:57:47 -0400 References: From: John Hasty Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 19:57:42 -0400 To: The Fooddude a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=XWU+sKb0ocrtKYt0j5sPTQ==:17 a=rpB1CqzKAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=Q1wbzmeitAfKRRWrmYsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=ztUPYMzusQ0A:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=XWU+sKb0ocrtKYt0j5sPTQ==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Tow rig regulations Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net John drives a 65' Toterhome with no problems Sent from my iPhone On Aug 3, 2013, at 7:19 PM, The Fooddude wrote: > Amici,B > Any insight as to various state regs re tow rigs and cdl's welcomed. B Fed rules appear under 10k empty and 26k loaded does not require cdl. B We have an f350 looking at a 48' vintage. B Thanks in advance. > > Sent via and typos courtesy wireless handheld device. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 4 04:32:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 588BE4043F for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 04:32:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f171.google.com (mail-we0-f171.google.com [74.125.82.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C1340409 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 04:30:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-we0-f171.google.com with SMTP id q55so1664668wes.2 for ; Sun, 04 Aug 2013 03:30:22 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=NlsoqXsuC81BxPfLTWJKhmmcAqlTIXirlRi+i98P7KY=; b=iAzGKB0KJQapDtbj6s2Or18TQyvWGOUn2+YOGWIP3Jkc66Y3ADCP039h29GQZ7x+NL qXSKHqrwg7ria4g9WCgsn01Ue4E0oThK5zdeKYMnIGBJftCiCtIhEMHw4j8FUvWS9yhT ++bGP3V7FxKFMzG17qR0iY5fBGfvcfP6bfKOzqovs6cwpaGIASE+GYYV9pQgF6wqhVcl 2pOijCNvwbuAr3h8rxBNowpWET6wB/Pd5Uq2jGopACMnCHsOyQ3zKZlepH1xxsxHiMqi iMp8tooqxwypF9zoc6OvoUmWaJPPuftJe8m2kk5Ud2VgWLpJRziFm+gaeETvYIzCleSr RTNQ== k1mr3610399wix.36.1375612222482; Sun, 04 Aug 2013 03:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.217.106.135 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 03:30:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "Enquiries Road & Track" Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 20:30:02 +1000 To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] GT6 limited slip availability Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net one of our local Triumph club members has an oriignal detroit locker in his race GT6 and he's looking to move back to something less savage, possibly a torsen/helical type or even a clutch plate type. is there any other diff centre that can be modifed to fit these housings or does anyone want a swap?? thanks Terry _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 4 06:05:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A210B40454 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 06:05:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64C8400A5 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 05:55:06 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=IFadWf/ACikKaIGnRmPl2Q==:17 a=3aWgdg-mILUA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=qZqGDTaqHSsA:10 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=oB51Z_9doOYDVRj-sCYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=IFadWf/ACikKaIGnRmPl2Q==:117 Received: from [166.137.120.118] ([166.137.120.118:41337] helo=[10.2.141.255]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 11/F7-09254-9114EF15; Sun, 04 Aug 2013 11:55:05 +0000 References: <20130803015858.Q305Y.32927.root@cdptpa-web10-z02> From: Bob Kramer Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 06:55:01 -0500 To: Randall Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] A type O.D. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net And that is what FoT is all about! The original articles are tremendous, and have helped a bunch of us; the feedback on the real world use of the methods presented and the additional info added in discussion only serve to help us even more. In my Texas circle, my cars are pretty dependable, reasonably fast and I sometimes look like I know what I'm doing. I've been on the list since 1996, and without the guys that were helping me then I couldn't have continued racing; couldn't have afforded the mistakes, couldn't have lived with the frustrations and certainly couldn't have gained a reputation for being a resource to others. I was a sponge and now the list helps me keep it soaked with more knowledge. This is what the list is all about! Keep it up. Sidebar, I also learned that guys like me who don't do any development work or aren't terribly creative with rule bending can build dependable race cars that keep you racing when others are breaking (I did learn a few things about ghat along the way). This also came with buying crankshafts , hubs etc designed and built by guys on the list. FoT keeps me racing. Bob Kramer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 2, 2013, at 8:58 PM, Randall wrote: > ---- John Hasty wrote: >> Randall, while all this tech talk is way over my head, I can attest to the >> fact that after 3 years and 18 races what ever size washer Larry used, it >> works just fine. > > I'm not arguing with that in the slightest, John. In fact, I'm not trying to suggest that Larry has done anything "wrong" at all. He knows what he's doing, and he's good at it. > > Just trying to transfer a little more information that I felt was lacking in the otherwise excellent article that he and Sam Clark wrote for the VTR web site. > > Randall > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 4 08:54:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530644053F for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 08:54:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail168c2.megamailservers.com (mail168c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1EAD4043F for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 08:46:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.235.186.204] (38.sub-174-252-146.myvzw.com [174.252.146.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail168c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r74EkX2T028576 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 4 Aug 2013 10:46:37 -0400 References: <20130803015858.Q305Y.32927.root@cdptpa-web10-z02> From: John Hasty Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 10:46:31 -0400 To: Bob Kramer a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=XWU+sKb0ocrtKYt0j5sPTQ==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=YeoCz39e6aOmazrUugAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=XWU+sKb0ocrtKYt0j5sPTQ==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: Randall , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] A type O.D. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ditto for me! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 4, 2013, at 7:55 AM, Bob Kramer wrote: > And that is what FoT is all about! The original articles are tremendous, and have helped a bunch of us; the feedback on the real world use of the methods presented and the additional info added in discussion only serve to help us even more. > > In my Texas circle, my cars are pretty dependable, reasonably fast and I sometimes look like I know what I'm doing. I've been on the list since 1996, and without the guys that were helping me then I couldn't have continued racing; couldn't have afforded the mistakes, couldn't have lived with the frustrations and certainly couldn't have gained a reputation for being a resource to others. I was a sponge and now the list helps me keep it soaked with more knowledge. > > This is what the list is all about! Keep it up. > > Sidebar, I also learned that guys like me who don't do any development work or aren't terribly creative with rule bending can build dependable race cars that keep you racing when others are breaking (I did learn a few things about ghat along the way). This also came with buying crankshafts , hubs etc designed and built by guys on the list. FoT keeps me racing. > > Bob Kramer > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 2, 2013, at 8:58 PM, Randall wrote: > >> ---- John Hasty wrote: >>> Randall, while all this tech talk is way over my head, I can attest to the >>> fact that after 3 years and 18 races what ever size washer Larry used, it >>> works just fine. >> >> I'm not arguing with that in the slightest, John. In fact, I'm not trying to suggest that Larry has done anything "wrong" at all. He knows what he's doing, and he's good at it. >> >> Just trying to transfer a little more information that I felt was lacking in the otherwise excellent article that he and Sam Clark wrote for the VTR web site. >> >> Randall >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 4 19:42:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A1442744 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 19:42:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com (outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com [64.136.47.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B5A0403B9 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 19:36:33 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1375666592; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=jwtG1IUTSME3uEVbLbFNy2stolgSJ7RNBKYtZ922jwR3ut6KAN/YERbOIfF1JoV/F 7CQmOqJcnN96kZ/BSERqqrODdEkB8QH0R67CCvzw+ph7qtKxm5AlmUzI3b+RmIuxK2 AjukUbJPmSozB0TKx1vt1Imzs5P+xjoioI5aJ0Ag= Received: from outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com (webmail11.dca.untd.com [10.171.12.151]) by smtpout02.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABJ98AMHAJTWRBA for (sender ); Sun, 4 Aug 2013 18:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [76.23.185.62] by webmail11.dca.untd.com with HTTP: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 01:34:02 GMT From: "Joe Boruch" Full-Name: "Joe Boruch" Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 01:34:02 GMT To: dforeman@fooddude.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Tow rig regulations Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Non commercial use of such vehicles with trailers are exempt from the federal motor carrier regulations. State laws, may however vary. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: The Fooddude To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Tow rig regulations Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 18:19:07 -0500 Amici,B Any insight as to various state regs re tow rigs and cdl's welcomed. B Fed rules appear under 10k empty and 26k loaded does not require cdl. B We have an f350 looking at a 48' vintage. B Thanks in advance. Sent via and typos courtesy wireless handheld device. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net ____________________________________________________________ Raise the Minimum Wage Tell the GOP: it's time to raise the minum wage http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/51ff01676d95616757f8st02duc _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 5 00:02:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6936942AA8 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 00:02:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8930A4044F for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2013 14:52:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.87]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8Lqg1m0021smiN4ABLsfNB; Sat, 03 Aug 2013 20:52:39 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.35] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8Lsd1m00l4L5TyG8gLsecq; Sat, 03 Aug 2013 20:52:39 +0000 From: Bud R To: Spitfire Racing Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 14:52:37 -0600 References: <331f6.606dcb69.3f2e616d@aol.com> <000f01ce9051$115ef6b0$341ce410$@rr.com> s=q20121106; t=1375563159; bh=G0vMZWKtG0wLfJkJ02Qb7NbHQAY/3UO6yTXgwDUTNYQ=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=mw09sx1gdvUv8lFKuI+nW9a4YfaqQLbOz8Pv14FV3CBvHWYgfCOIpUDbEyEVFIrym 4I9pKNG/NrP6h5VDM2Xu8I6fI3nbFNDkCxphaATlbotaLxG1n27Pd+KnZK1Qdfau2P eueoNcsR7y2XgBye96pF2EjHoCs/o/sT0JldqL2tHFBg9CuGiu9Lvqmnf2cHw+h6nz jOjeP5JeLFb3Dowew6vYsvy4iBEGNaUZmDXG7Zq4CTqFaEUgBwU9IY9EbPRAbB1SUY ZfGD6G042GMYr+ri3r3MQYd9px1ZzoG3VNIqBlFZoUZXENaARIRLe6kK3yk9eMoCKk IfkCJyeiIC6Hg== Cc: 'Mack McCormack' , 'Chris Meyers' , fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] HANS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I agree. My wife didn't complain a bit about buying that piece of, or any, safety equipment. Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Aug 3, 2013, at 7:55 AM, Spitfire Racing wrote: > Do your loved ones a favor folks. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 5 04:25:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CAF42AA8 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 04:25:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8206442A92 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 04:19:30 -0600 (MDT) a=yr/eJ6S8SHGIc+/JdDlNag==:17 a=zkYuSOkxadoA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=_VbfI_MemRoA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=rpB1CqzKAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=fmDjJsrZAAAA:8 a=U12MZQlaFVErz3qdwDMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=ztUPYMzusQ0A:10 a=YK30HMD7P3IA:10 a=cli2DKIDv5VvtIAl:21 a=EmfOcwTFcboUPvfs:21 a=yr/eJ6S8SHGIc+/JdDlNag==:117 Received: from [67.255.13.17] ([67.255.13.17:49200] helo=Russlaptop) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 19/29-18705-13C7FF15; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 10:19:29 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: "'Joe Boruch'" , References: <20130804.213402.1236.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 06:19:24 -0400 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: Ac6RfRky7Rl+0IFUTWuZwc2ZwKI/JQARwumw Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Tow rig regulations Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net While it is not required (yet) I do maintain a CDL to be sure I am never going to have a problem in any state. I run a 34' motorhome and pull a trailer with a length of 28'(24' + 4'tongue). I live in the peoples republic of New York where laws change at midnight and without notice. Also be careful on width. Many motorhomes with awning assemblies exceed the width regulation in a number of states. Russ -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Boruch Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 9:34 PM To: dforeman@fooddude.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Tow rig regulations Non commercial use of such vehicles with trailers are exempt from the federal motor carrier regulations. State laws, may however vary. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: The Fooddude To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Tow rig regulations Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 18:19:07 -0500 Amici,B Any insight as to various state regs re tow rigs and cdl's welcomed. B Fed rules appear under 10k empty and 26k loaded does not require cdl. B We have an f350 looking at a 48' vintage. B Thanks in advance. Sent via and typos courtesy wireless handheld device. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net ____________________________________________________________ Raise the Minimum Wage Tell the GOP: it's time to raise the minum wage http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/51ff01676d95616757f8st02duc _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 5 08:04:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED4B4271E for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:04:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (unknown [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4D6403FB for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 06:25:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b%11]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 07:19:30 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: 'Enquiries Road & Track' , "fot@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Fot] GT6 limited slip availability Thread-Index: AQHOkP378z9b65BFeE2mLs89vczID5mGic1A Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 12:19:30 +0000 References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 limited slip availability Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net "SAVAGE??", asked the guy about to put a Detroit Locker into his Spitfire. Whadaya mean "savage"?? Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Enquiries Road & Track Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 5:30 AM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] GT6 limited slip availability one of our local Triumph club members has an oriignal detroit locker in his race GT6 and he's looking to move back to something less savage, possibly a torsen/helical type or even a clutch plate type. is there any other diff centre that can be modifed to fit these housings or does anyone want a swap?? thanks Terry _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 5 08:54:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128064051E for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:54:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com (mx2.netinteraction.com [174.143.201.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F5240338 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 07:49:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTP id 10F7FF44028 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 06:34:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z-TTpfKMWpov for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 06:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com (75-128-248-175.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com [75.128.248.175]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTPA id 1FA1CF44058 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 06:33:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:33:58 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net From: Peter Caldwell References: <51FD91E7.3000701@bradakis.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Adjustable lever shocks. Source Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net How can I help? peter@nosimport.com No info on our webpage. PPP At 06:27 PM 8/3/2013, Mark J Bradakis wrote: >Joe Alexander wrote: >>Worldwideimportautoparts.com >> > >Yes, Peter Caldwell, aka Peter the Parts Pimp, who I believe is a >lurker on this list. > >mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 5 09:23:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B3F42B20 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 09:23:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (unknown [64.26.60.159]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6420D4069E for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 09:00:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Charly (unknown [97.126.70.172]) (Authenticated sender: charly@mitchelplumbing.com) by smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D3CE15D809B; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 10:00:15 -0500 (CDT) From: "Charly Mitchel" To: , "Peter Caldwell" References: <51FD91E7.3000701@bradakis.com> <20130805133402.10F7FF44028@mx2.netinteraction.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:00:15 -0700 Subject: Re: [Fot] Adjustable lever shocks. Source Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Just for the record I installed the adjustable shocks on my TR6 last year and the handling has improved immensely. I have the shock valves turned in quite a bit, I think more then Peter recommends. Great item and I would suggest for anyone trying to maintain the proper specs for their car. Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Caldwell" To: Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 6:33 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Adjustable lever shocks. Source > How can I help? peter@nosimport.com No info on our webpage. > PPP > At 06:27 PM 8/3/2013, Mark J Bradakis wrote: >>Joe Alexander wrote: >>>Worldwideimportautoparts.com >>> >> >>Yes, Peter Caldwell, aka Peter the Parts Pimp, who I believe is a lurker >>on this list. >> >>mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 5 09:36:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00D542B15 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 09:36:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82EEC403BC for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 09:06:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.0.0.24] (pool-64-222-241-36.port.east.myfairpoint.net [64.222.241.36]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.07(7.0.4.27.6) 64bit (built Jun 21 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0MR200KT8CMZ0YB0@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 15:06:39 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-08-05_04:2013-08-05,2013-08-05,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1305010000 definitions=main-1308050126 From: Scott Janzen Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 11:06:42 -0400 References: <82BFCF3631841845BADD37BD9FE7EA73203DB358@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> To: "Barr, Scott" Cc: 'Enquiries Road & Track' , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 limited slip availability Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Here's how I'd describe it: My GT6 has a welded rear - its behavior is consistent throughout the turn (like it or not!). Get on the gas early and it's predictable, but not great for low speed turns. the TR4 I bought last year has a detroit locker - every time it engaged during the turn i certainly noticed the trajectory changed. I would describe it as an on-off switch. I only have one weekend in that car - not enough to judge yet. Certainly easier to push around the paddock than a welded rear! On Aug 5, 2013, at 8:19 AM, Barr, Scott wrote: "SAVAGE??", asked the guy about to put a Detroit Locker into his Spitfire. Whadaya mean "savage"?? Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Enquiries Road & Track Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 5:30 AM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] GT6 limited slip availability one of our local Triumph club members has an oriignal detroit locker in his race GT6 and he's looking to move back to something less savage, possibly a torsen/helical type or even a clutch plate type. is there any other diff centre that can be modifed to fit these housings or does anyone want a swap?? thanks Terry _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 5 09:48:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F079742B24 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 09:48:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C47ED403B9 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 09:26:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b%11]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 10:26:45 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: 'Scott Janzen' Thread-Topic: [Fot] GT6 limited slip availability Thread-Index: AQHOkP378z9b65BFeE2mLs89vczID5mGic1AgACC0QD//7Cw8A== Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 15:26:44 +0000 References: <82BFCF3631841845BADD37BD9FE7EA73203DB358@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <7DC74901-EC80-4E92-88F7-F0E7C82AFB07@me.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Cc: 'Enquiries Road & Track' , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 limited slip availability Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net << every time it engaged during the turn i certainly noticed the trajectory changed >> Hmm, well that doesn't sound TOO bad. Others have told me in the past that it can bang and make some unusual noises and that it does affect steer characteristic. That I can live with - savage, not so much. I'm hopeful it will be better than my Quaife. The Quaife really does limit how much power you can get down in right-hand corners. It teaches you to be as smooth as possible, but there still comes a point when you're lifting that inside rear wheel and then you've got an open diff. Scott B. From: Scott Janzen [mailto:sjanzen@me.com] Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 10:07 AM To: Barr, Scott Cc: 'Enquiries Road & Track'; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 limited slip availability Here's how I'd describe it: My GT6 has a welded rear - its behavior is consistent throughout the turn (like it or not!). Get on the gas early and it's predictable, but not great for low speed turns. the TR4 I bought last year has a detroit locker - every time it engaged during the turn i certainly noticed the trajectory changed. I would describe it as an on-off switch. I only have one weekend in that car - not enough to judge yet. Certainly easier to push around the paddock than a welded rear! On Aug 5, 2013, at 8:19 AM, Barr, Scott wrote: "SAVAGE??", asked the guy about to put a Detroit Locker into his Spitfire. Whadaya mean "savage"?? Scott B. -----Original Message----- [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Enquiries Road & Track Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 5:30 AM Subject: [Fot] GT6 limited slip availability one of our local Triumph club members has an oriignal detroit locker in his race GT6 and he's looking to move back to something less savage, possibly a torsen/helical type or even a clutch plate type. is there any other diff centre that can be modifed to fit these housings or does anyone want a swap?? thanks Terry _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 5 09:52:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3C542B38 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 09:52:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d01.mx.aol.com (omr-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.252.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9019E403A6 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 09:47:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.69]) by omr-d01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 599DC700544CC; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 11:47:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 12B5BE0000B0; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 11:47:44 -0400 (EDT) References: <51FD91E7.3000701@bradakis.com> <20130805133402.10F7FF44028@mx2.netinteraction.com> <38FFE4AAC55046C4B21E7C51B9B963A5@Charly> From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 10:42:13 -0500 To: Charly Mitchel x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375717664; bh=SE5yQBX02ZvN79/iPsjvKxObrxxBfUnt7J6QuGvzu8o=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=LPl9M1RaX+lhpbD3rtl7CI4C5GDr95BHTrZjb/sjgjRiJ0yQmAgiLGCIuSBKl3y0B LodXQlzDWZplNV/E/5JqR0cRSnrsLURmq+dFsQUDrQbx0mJchDxjdsw/9sB4XbioU2 bGLUfkWKeTnXepv+h9rjQ58mxu8B41ILN7EWmAg4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294551ffc9204681 Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Adjustable lever shocks. Source Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Uncle jack had them on his car and I remember that he was pleased with them. joe a Sent from my iPad On Aug 5, 2013, at 10:00 AM, "Charly Mitchel" wrote: > Just for the record I installed the adjustable shocks on my TR6 last year and the handling has improved immensely. I have the shock valves turned in quite a bit, I think more then Peter recommends. Great item and I would suggest for anyone trying to maintain the proper specs for their car. > Charly Mitchel > TR6 #44 > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Caldwell" > To: > Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 6:33 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Adjustable lever shocks. Source > > >> How can I help? peter@nosimport.com No info on our webpage. >> PPP >> At 06:27 PM 8/3/2013, Mark J Bradakis wrote: >>> Joe Alexander wrote: >>>> Worldwideimportautoparts.com >>>> >>> >>> Yes, Peter Caldwell, aka Peter the Parts Pimp, who I believe is a lurker on this list. >>> >>> mjb. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 5 10:02:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A60142B39 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 10:02:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm23-vm1.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm23-vm1.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C29C4032B for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 09:54:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.176] by nm23.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2013 15:54:21 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.254] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2013 15:54:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1025.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2013 15:54:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 71672 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Aug 2013 15:54:21 -0000 s=s1024; t=1375718060; bh=/iz83opNt2gZqT9P0CGiUjONcctnjoa4JdAvPCIyUQU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-RocketYMMF:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AxF6TfkqJoWqviXsbTplp1B3YnNjeIwDgXZol2wXKV3mbN+LvxODeFmL1YqCh7FdzH27jGcHs0ZjpmX5slhkq9io2VTCVfl/2rH9Y//QoMDLIajmQwUZgDBZMdR2NfByIkZmE3Ik3JNcZTNv0XlQCLLmc6bABDRqdqk2vgm0yjI= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-RocketYMMF:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sEHl0rubZ5rHuYYa7cViyZme7nXkjU44/5MUBm0BTVsmUQ96zRQNRuCM8FvK3ETLln0eJ0hBARsVT98GXRUaXIgtt6gefAQAHzMyJSjF6RKC+blLKzGd1pIk1ILFBe5witJ+AFDTI2ySL8L5cdjYhi4ySt2bo3Ov4FGVYbFwkzI=; qSOCcL96JjVu2cmJjq7upsVrTlOr3oBsFFb9qzhvD3jAGbB_lfbUbB.8dJPo KlNEI50yFS3fBJOasn_bE6A8wnHXEZpxtl9ujkJ7qWg.8SOKlb1qB1hD3YJ3 7JurixHsF0WLAMMv8Hcbl4_KGNWze_uXQlJXGVOqkpNlATWoK3i6dZNGSF7B tLqG1Uc0_1wrvfSHbYATgOh6cjnO7ew5ckbydN6BJWFvKrOZXt0H731TAOMk HvFCayhQFbp3ofWDt.98T3c0DKroVMH4aNNg0rIVhfU08gMm4Uw_bibsmApl tXp5zAl._kOjjlmgG3SvgE9UkyFfVlLPJme7Hx_GJh7I_Aet.Hg02hR837gK WAd.DQUrWJ_pALLVrVyMgC8NqEbNiD_AFVevL14O8jpDnFRUr.GqEBokdYgA J39cCPJDUxKuxnE1xY5DFSsV0ddwvnaLZdtvFcCBXoxLb0rixvoutsSvI5.l GGaUQHHWkg0adqIwx8V2QjWd7WP1no.8PNU7tF2Lo7ezW.ekQ9xhPekceooH zaj9RxhFw0ajKASKlyJlD7VZ2HlYgXljyIJ1GPG4kTpdRs4Ev4AGDXeamAFZ jV1XGGbIpt9_RtSY3CT9KZJ88OQ-- Received: from [99.162.149.142] by web184802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:54:20 PDT SSB0aGluayBpdCBoYXMgYSBsb3QgdG8gZG8gd2l0aCBob3JzZXBvd2VyLCB3ZWlnaHQsIGJhbGFuY2UsIGFuZCB3aWRlIHN0aWNreSB0aXJlcy4KwqAKSW4gYW4gMTE0NyBTcGl0ZmlyZSB3aXRoIGhhcmQgY29tcG91bmQgdmludGFnZSB0aXJlcywgYSBEZXRyb2l0IGxvY2tlciBpc8Kgbm90IGFicnVwdCBvciBzYXZhZ2UuCsKgClRpbSAKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCiBGcm9tOiBTY290dCBKYW56ZW4gPHNqYW56ZW5AbWUuY29tPgpUbzogIkJhcnIsIFNjb3R0IiA8c2JhcnJATWMBMAEBAQE- References: <82BFCF3631841845BADD37BD9FE7EA73203DB358@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <7DC74901-EC80-4E92-88F7-F0E7C82AFB07@me.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:54:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Pettenati <1964spitfire@pacbell.net> To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 limited slip availability Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I think it has a lot to do with horsepower, weight, balance, and wide sticky tires. In an 1147 Spitfire with hard compound vintage tires, a Detroit locker is not abrupt or savage. Tim ________________________________ From: Scott Janzen To: "Barr, Scott" Cc: 'Enquiries Road & Track' ; "fot@autox.team.net" Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 limited slip availability Here's how I'd describe it: My GT6 has a welded rear - its behavior is consistent throughout the turn (like it or not!). Get on the gas early and it's predictable, but not great for low speed turns. the TR4 I bought last year has a detroit locker - every time it engaged during the turn i certainly noticed the trajectory changed. I would describe it as an on-off switch. I only have one weekend in that car - not enough to judge yet. Certainly easier to push around the paddock than a welded rear! On Aug 5, 2013, at 8:19 AM, Barr, Scott wrote: "SAVAGE??", asked the guy about to put a Detroit Locker into his Spitfire. Whadaya mean "savage"?? Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Enquiries Road & Track Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 5:30 AM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] GT6 limited slip availability one of our local Triumph club members has an oriignal detroit locker in his race GT6 and he's looking to move back to something less savage, possibly a torsen/helical type or even a clutch plate type. is there any other diff centre that can be modifed to fit these housings or does anyone want a swap?? thanks Terry _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Archive: _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/1964spitfire@pacbell.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 5 10:04:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DB542B49 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 10:04:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail201c2.megamailservers.com (mail201c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13CCA40551 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 10:04:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail201c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r75G44wX030960; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 12:04:08 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: "'Joe Alexander'" , "'Charly Mitchel'" References: <51FD91E7.3000701@bradakis.com><20130805133402.10F7FF44028@mx2.netinteraction.com><38FFE4AAC55046C4B21E7C51B9B963A5@Charly> <6B14F3FC-3761-47E7-9AFC-36D9B0B446BA@cs.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 12:04:03 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6R88NMMPcebLO+R7apIAXva0JAYQAAYiuw a=heqtJhygAcUA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=p_3VnqCNAAAA:8 a=XQBEjfhHAAAA:8 a=XAOvcSAwAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=FG1Y4WJDGfHq6JosvGUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=dsJAQD9D4Z4A:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=W4oarAnCkt8A:10 a=-UQ4BaxT2dUA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=RmmYIL5oThpjjX9a:21 a=OHlpSYqhNWBOxavq:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Adjustable lever shocks. Source Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net My experience is the same mine are turned in at least 75% they did improve the handle of the car.... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Alexander Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 11:42 AM To: Charly Mitchel Cc: Subject: Re: [Fot] Adjustable lever shocks. Source Uncle jack had them on his car and I remember that he was pleased with them. joe a Sent from my iPad On Aug 5, 2013, at 10:00 AM, "Charly Mitchel" wrote: > Just for the record I installed the adjustable shocks on my TR6 last > year and the handling has improved immensely. I have the shock valves turned in quite a bit, I think more then Peter recommends. Great item and I would suggest for anyone trying to maintain the proper specs for their car. > Charly Mitchel > TR6 #44 > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Caldwell" > > To: > Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 6:33 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Adjustable lever shocks. Source > > >> How can I help? peter@nosimport.com No info on our webpage. >> PPP >> At 06:27 PM 8/3/2013, Mark J Bradakis wrote: >>> Joe Alexander wrote: >>>> Worldwideimportautoparts.com >>>> >>> >>> Yes, Peter Caldwell, aka Peter the Parts Pimp, who I believe is a >>> lurker on this list. >>> >>> mjb. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 5 10:19:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A8D342B63 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 10:19:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D3C42B2F for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 10:17:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b%11]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 11:17:45 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: 'Tim Pettenati' <1964spitfire@pacbell.net>, "fot@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Fot] GT6 limited slip availability Thread-Index: AQHOkP378z9b65BFeE2mLs89vczID5mGic1AgACC0QCAAA1PAP//rwNQ Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 16:17:45 +0000 References: <82BFCF3631841845BADD37BD9FE7EA73203DB358@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <7DC74901-EC80-4E92-88F7-F0E7C82AFB07@me.com> <1375718060.69772.YahooMailNeo@web184802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 limited slip availability Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Well, I'll pop it in there, and report back. This will be after the Kas Cup, since it's a 4.11 rear end which is not really appropriate for Road America - at least not in my car. Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Pettenati Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 10:54 AM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 limited slip availability I think it has a lot to do with horsepower, weight, balance, and wide sticky tires. In an 1147 Spitfire with hard compound vintage tires, a Detroit locker is not abrupt or savage. Tim ________________________________ From: Scott Janzen To: "Barr, Scott" Cc: 'Enquiries Road & Track' ; "fot@autox.team.net" Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 limited slip availability Here's how I'd describe it: My GT6 has a welded rear - its behavior is consistent throughout the turn (like it or not!). Get on the gas early and it's predictable, but not great for low speed turns. the TR4 I bought last year has a detroit locker - every time it engaged during the turn i certainly noticed the trajectory changed. I would describe it as an on-off switch. I only have one weekend in that car - not enough to judge yet. Certainly easier to push around the paddock than a welded rear! On Aug 5, 2013, at 8:19 AM, Barr, Scott wrote: "SAVAGE??", asked the guy about to put a Detroit Locker into his Spitfire. Whadaya mean "savage"?? Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Enquiries Road & Track Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 5:30 AM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] GT6 limited slip availability one of our local Triumph club members has an oriignal detroit locker in his race GT6 and he's looking to move back to something less savage, possibly a torsen/helical type or even a clutch plate type. is there any other diff centre that can be modifed to fit these housings or does anyone want a swap?? thanks Terry _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Archive: _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/1964spitfire@pacbell.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 5 11:06:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90E142B71 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 11:06:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF19403FA for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 11:06:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from AR5J3QR6XV (cpe-70-113-116-224.austin.res.rr.com [70.113.116.224]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M5Lyp-1U6pzZ16Nz-00yor8; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 13:06:35 -0400 From: "FoodDude" To: Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 12:06:35 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac6R/fLufQDeDX6HQ362R9sG98hQdA== Content-Language: en-us hSPvZLhP7QVf560gXuG+VM65Wra0vgJpdWRdX0PjV1D7QoJM79 eKB0IjqbT/OjSG3x44gCV8zZ1ZA68sM9Mmul+MNo8kxlAriNyY mzDI67zi7zmZtmPyRDJJQ5qk19XjbcjSB+tTPoT3khaiifLoLx k83tSdY2X4GWvL3QSmMeSOAXq6e+nNXrv4K93Sk7k0Q/zipMrM Op1p9DaIHEIPvEENCxN9jhscEAPe/KKdo+L0Q0v2Tu8H5U63+T O1kJoA3mTFtjTp6Yj66igf3GwjV411SNuCuCs7P59gHuCHM127 V5w4r3guJZbJjyT2bdudWmEU0laDY9hVrFWmZruET Subject: [Fot] GT6 rotoflex hub: Knurl size and stud part # Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FoT: (For Robert MacKenzie-whose computer is buried in one of those boxes they just moved): Need information: what is KNURL size for a stock GT6 RotoFlex hub AND, does anyone have a part number for a 7/16-20 LONG wheel stud to fit that GT6 hub? Thanks, Dave Foreman _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 5 11:34:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732CA42B99 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 11:34:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com (omr-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFBD742A92 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 11:33:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9E316700000A6; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 13:33:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dnc002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dnc002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.176.5]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 44B38E000086; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 13:33:25 -0400 (EDT) References: <05ec01ce91fe$254f2e70$6fed8b50$@fooddude.com> To: dforeman@fooddude.com, fot@autox.team.net Received: from 24.120.231.10 by webmail-vd015.sysops.aol.com (205.188.21.127) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 05 Aug 2013 13:33:25 -0400 From: gt6steve@aol.com Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 13:33:25 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375724005; bh=qAdz3nei+dCSnGhozZQVbnamjQwyqEb8PXfRdGkeyDM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qABnDwwLjo8Isyx8g1XJbHHtN5S7fjJSKAjrkNjvQpjjp1LL0kbQkkDX2xXlusfcU 1DqNoovvMfENGtKR39XtZg5D28Pq2c8J3SMQbV66RhtY+/y2X3jzCxRE8OlO+M+uDw OQAWvkp2prJSXHpCredc/qYv4fc3zZFVVHO+ECZE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb51ffe1e54166 Cc: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 rotoflex hub: Knurl size and stud part # Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Off the top of my head I recall .512. That may be the dimension for the ARP long studs I use. I can get you that part number tonight. That likely is the ARP dimension because I bought a special metric drill bit to install them. -----Original Message----- From: FoodDude To: fot Sent: Mon, Aug 5, 2013 10:06 am Subject: [Fot] GT6 rotoflex hub: Knurl size and stud part # FoT: (For Robert MacKenzie-whose computer is buried in one of those boxes they ust moved): Need information: what is KNURL size for a stock GT6 RotoFlex hub AND, does anyone have a part number for a 7/16-20 LONG wheel stud to fit hat GT6 hub? Thanks, Dave Foreman ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 5 13:08:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F271842C19 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 13:08:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f175.google.com (mail-we0-f175.google.com [74.125.82.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADCF642BD3 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 13:05:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-we0-f175.google.com with SMTP id q58so2751746wes.6 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 12:05:44 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=fN3EvcU7YSeotDM9XEKtW/LcjFcCLsZf5I7PsxF2kMM=; b=PZcQvxx7Wbpf03AOT7V+IVwlHbBS/dZ0CnnYlRWX/1xj90W388x9vkuHySJZKLlqku Kbini9KDB2VRyOdT59QKp6r1jSgn57AneomLdsJZaK5Kl4WQnDmiVVaqnsh663DxZ8Vl Rl/zzxlpWQa2qL+9d1pHE9oyBS/HvzpYB+F0DyihJMOzLVc3/g8MT/Tocy4cyF/7Oc61 kyhiYZ2WWTeZ53Ji8w6saU8SJmKvRaVvZDBLR0fZfxttzjXOiAfvvUA1VgoXif7W+Jpw X/5iRUCmG5x6UdT4R8wro8uu3GmSemaGF2HWe16XVtn/+oHxSrj9bZGEtE6belcT1KME wJtg== ej8mr7758201wic.37.1375729544769; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 12:05:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.27.200 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 12:05:44 -0700 (PDT) References: <05ec01ce91fe$254f2e70$6fed8b50$@fooddude.com> <8D06019058AE8BB-BB4-2B402@webmail-vd015.sysops.aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 15:05:44 -0400 From: Robert Deanes To: gt6steve@aol.com Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 rotoflex hub: Knurl size and stud part # Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I believe the stud is ARP-100-7702 for the long stud.......Summit Racing Equip. On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 1:33 PM, wrote: > Off the top of my head I recall .512. That may be the dimension for the > ARP > long studs I use. I can get you that part number tonight. That likely is > the > ARP dimension because I bought a special metric drill bit to install them. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: FoodDude > To: fot > Sent: Mon, Aug 5, 2013 10:06 am > Subject: [Fot] GT6 rotoflex hub: Knurl size and stud part # > > > FoT: > (For Robert MacKenzie-whose computer is buried in one of those boxes they > ust moved): > > Need information: what is KNURL size for a stock GT6 RotoFlex hub > AND, does anyone have a part number for a 7/16-20 LONG wheel stud to fit > hat GT6 hub? > > Thanks, > > Dave Foreman > ______________________________________________ > ot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > rchive: http://www.team.net/archive > orums: http://www.team.net/forums > nsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 5 17:30:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C733442E06 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 17:30:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm42-vm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm42-vm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.191]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8284C42BD3 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 17:21:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.145] by nm42.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2013 23:21:37 -0000 Received: from [98.139.211.202] by tm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2013 23:21:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp211.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2013 23:21:37 -0000 s=s1024; t=1375744897; bh=ukZNcpNE9NVXa4Ix2gp27PEli1Zic5E2mOVLwDAJLZ0=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Message-ID:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:MIME-Version:To:From:Subject:Date:Content-Type; b=mha0ipvWV63pnL62ETrTdZmxWaHFYqxXxJy5l53SP/LtJpRRLctDfpM9csflLCQvUkVP0E/Di/aKfT3jrcQC4ym7tF9E+2CYEjE3pRDGYRj68xrh+crC7Wtq92+aWdnQakDV9IDS+Q18GSzamuSZBEVKZDjnGP0VSE1x18bemts= kZ8le4kbtydsRBPkj8NLvmDxIMM7U0O1.ubMdz5bNDZsv85FWbeSuTl_v80N vExuv26ckeIUj4cpfX7NfVwSfOffFiwJvvfFNtvFxA5WzWVSDHNMoaekwgPi O2hR95aHqQMAibD0x_rzTsnSRAfHMLQGs6anfMThEauVR9mBumBtVNzIx61X tUCj7XqIBc4nmtlKjayjZqAq5iMvARtNg.YEP7Ki1e6L1.yrV5Ccx3H7B40Y SqlhFhYhg167FFwXvXBAe0wNtgMRXtBzuCPtc_I625lblXDBbjIyTA8Lwls0 5IRbX7Ww0TUu6qQdQuVE4z5R3URgby47YwqrlgJoRA5285oZDbeM4rd00Ndl aZ.1M9xxTIG3gjbccxnLh4VM4FqoVKwETUnLLHB3W8zUvsLSf0zNhhTsNWQ4 b9iRiYDtSxhX7wnt74JNOWfXLg_ruJ25sy5FMFl5OJlNs2bPmRCxI_ck9SGQ byR96FAUoK4dG21yV3jKlxjzWWbHsMs8tRsbX_v3CFJwyG4rXxLbE8rCM3Dk C3eZmoZ.eDQRwB5tAD_cC by smtp211.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 05 Aug 2013 16:21:37 -0700 PDT To: fot From: Dennis DeLap Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:20:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Don't Pass Me in the Kink Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A M I C I I am thinking about having this bumper sticker made for the Kastner Cup. Anyone want one? Dennis _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 5 17:31:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A49442E1C for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 17:31:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f171.google.com (mail-we0-f171.google.com [74.125.82.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A92D42BE2 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 17:25:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-we0-f171.google.com with SMTP id q55so3049187wes.30 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 16:25:29 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=rQ0rIlBjV9kyld8/0T4ZvDR6V6L7X1w2MeRRWaEdy08=; b=XmNlxH8lkhYWnwrpYw7EX86LORlj1N4fLfRARIlv9bIpUgISmzHcqRoZpciCNZG804 RcJUf20NhlRJNgK612yZfHvXUxK5sSW3iRGwZQboU01NZO4c4T9oMWwiryamUhJHOMe4 LFIirDDeZK0gl7efrUzX3WvK1lGN9VRg9TXXuz0wly7+hkfpfKPzHvQU7/ZUqL/Lyla7 kk/GnZ+8Nz9cnydMqc/K0+sBkrrmbEOoBMreCap86QYG5yLgz4q2i9Ti6xzW6yE+EPAm ysteucgf8lwJmD/B+lVaXp8GXX4qXq1nLmsYcEADcF8/4ggLEqkp/huMCoDqAhRsURAN dKNw== Mon, 05 Aug 2013 16:25:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.217.106.135 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 16:25:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "Enquiries Road & Track" Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 09:25:09 +1000 To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 limited slip availability Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net thanks for the comments guys, but so far no-one has really answered my query about where we can find an alternative diff. there seems to be plenty of GT6/Spitfires racing in the states . surely someone among this illustrious group must know what fits??????? the on-off switch comments from scott seem to most closely match the comments from my racer mate who hates the detroit locker in his GT6 and says it has to go i've got one in my Triumph 2.5 saloon race car and its no trouble at all. in fact, i took a salisbury plate type out to fit the locker. the lighter GT6 is clearly unable to cope with the on/off nature of the detroit locker the previous owner of my race GT6 got so pissed off with breaking diffs he fitted a subaru one which has a salisbury in it Terry _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 5 18:32:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A753A42C85 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:32:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail175c2.megamailservers.com (mail175c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9B142BD3 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:26:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.226.107.219] (158.sub-174-237-2.myvzw.com [174.237.2.158]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail175c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r760QMs5017886 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 5 Aug 2013 20:26:24 -0400 References: <229678.12505.bm@smtp211.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: John Hasty Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 20:26:20 -0400 To: Dennis DeLap a=RcKn1N57vOUA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=VaCG+zPuymYBgDCe7kErxg==:17 a=pcLIrrrKAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=y-RrnpdXmyliIL3XqksA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=ftFGBYpk1mUA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=VaCG+zPuymYBgDCe7kErxg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Don't Pass Me in the Kink Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net How 'bout "Don't Pass Me Anywhere" Sent from my iPhone On Aug 5, 2013, at 7:20 PM, Dennis DeLap wrote: > A M I C I > I am thinking about having this bumper sticker made for the Kastner Cup. > Anyone want one? > Dennis > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 5 20:04:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7133642E61 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 20:04:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f45.google.com (mail-pa0-f45.google.com [209.85.220.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A294009B for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 19:55:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id bg4so94587pad.18 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 18:55:07 -0700 (PDT) h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=ARiIjm8Jtkwt1IOaN7m9fL8E7Yb8ON4yOVc7FFXr1vs=; b=e+KIQ4JWXgvOy/oLGp+abku6WrI2JVKYwvqNBXbkeMkQnx3zgL85bPriTecuHX/2yH WcCmTRHNP0a2+AhbhuOKd5udk73qBzViFDqwJSMEKk0JKPG8DwMoJFMSdIRWF2Y/sbbh dPgg1SeqseEdRZFSXf5S3MBIO8pq+0BUmZG9rqEe1YcKfatASykAxhbOOGTZPwq7rmix U7JrLODbAVvvgAxPMqEinGQcsWEjBSSJBortghWPhAo+w6E/DPOLPRJ7DbT6/MUnn2MA W0whQ9hTt3hq9f4cfShpDvaqqGZA0HZR9AAHr5pBh1RdpwuoSpP5kk8kl7dTqr6mj3RT rTeg== it8mr25474886pbc.17.1375754107200; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 18:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.42] (ppp183-19.broadband.gorge.net. [209.216.183.19]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id sp4sm1888183pbc.45.2013.08.05.18.55.05 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 05 Aug 2013 18:55:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Babcock Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:55:04 -0700 References: <82BFCF3631841845BADD37BD9FE7EA73203DB358@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> To: "Barr, Scott" Cc: 'Enquiries Road & Track' , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 limited slip availability Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I take it you've never used one. savage is a good term. On Aug 5, 2013, at 5:19 AM, "Barr, Scott" wrote: > "SAVAGE??", asked the guy about to put a Detroit Locker into his Spitfire. > Whadaya mean "savage"?? > > Scott B. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of Enquiries Road & Track > Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 5:30 AM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] GT6 limited slip availability > > one of our local Triumph club members has an oriignal detroit locker in his > race GT6 and he's looking to move back to something less savage, possibly a > torsen/helical type or even a clutch plate type. is there any other diff > centre that can be modifed to fit these housings or does anyone want a > swap?? > > thanks > Terry > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billb@bnj.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 6 02:14:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472ED42B91 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 02:14:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f172.google.com (mail-ea0-f172.google.com [209.85.215.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1454742731 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 02:04:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f172.google.com with SMTP id r16so42447ead.17 for ; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 01:04:02 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=dZhipmbLierfWRlsIrnIkHXkcutOoIH/5Z0lZQcmYT0=; b=Dn84CYLezViB1qoyqURZM24+oUFsnYy7Y64VEoLbQFJ1rC4Xqq7C7F/EA79gH5fSWT HboU5gY4asQJnqak7HgGg09RsHn8gNCbVRsjdmB/Pv1sK0S2IUIMhFrzB66MVoRXcKLH PwAvoWSUnDmFX36QU1enNyFuR0zKFn5Y/euKmWLx4y/EyKVkjwApOYpTGvRPDaZvhGRC 9O4t2AbRsGzXysUpQremZMKRTTTFn/y0oUxhOk9RGPugPMTbMQ0mmxBh2hNiQrESoG6Q xY+ynCmfvDjmM11q4e5gYdZCbHKEBACYkaGhEdcAoOwLac7uWds02KZYLupANitcifTq bupw== c48mr134552eeg.52.1375776242316; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 01:04:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([46.78.139.17]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id k3sm341629een.16.2013.08.06.01.04.01 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 06 Aug 2013 01:04:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Dennis DeLap'" , "'fot'" References: <229678.12505.bm@smtp211.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 10:04:03 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6SM+VmNB3htsojQSmqWE4QMKi9lgAR2gPg Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Don't Pass Me in the Kink Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net What about "multipass"? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jWGbvemTag -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Dennis DeLap Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. August 2013 01:21 An: fot Betreff: [Fot] Don't Pass Me in the Kink A M I C I I am thinking about having this bumper sticker made for the Kastner Cup. Anyone want one? Dennis _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 6 05:48:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F6EE4273C for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 05:48:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm22-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm22-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF03C403ED for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 05:40:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm22.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Aug 2013 11:40:25 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.160] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Aug 2013 11:40:25 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1071.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Aug 2013 11:40:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 29602 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Aug 2013 11:40:25 -0000 s=s1024; t=1375789225; bh=/XOa3Zh6ueZnDrBkcPWrIGyJFNO37wg8Ts0sNc/XaNU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=M+pHnQD/elI6T+dutHcSmSCXGPG0dRS+XLp7Qnmd1u3XOq9k4K64+86pIucrq/a/qM6YT9yuMONco0LexeeVE7U192wuRG0YU4mNvMiYMk0w2EugF+XhOAqoy4aLhzQZs4lnJF2eZJKtJhldXRaJOCUaUctjOGfYWqc2Q/7Y4l8= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=I6G52TnzwUMGfMDRCYD0Ty1jifLjZhTqi/x8zF8YbCpiF7ssKPJZKLBNqaRhl57N0WOl+QmhrNozDi7uq3S5DWnwco6S/xiF29WPWdVGsMsxbmG5qyXva//D4YoJRTCRRQL3x204+R4zpEmLlSAjVyp/TDzaeH1ONH6DGbvh5R0=; Edo9e0hibWaH_ha0jBuvKtqcj73DrfrrqbKK_DkZC5.D62RR5efL2RAPxJh7 HH3LLxcozMXkTzWCYoVg9vifIyxPawgtt8olsC6vPYPasLfBGswEhZyrJF4r Hh7o9FY8_5W.aqLYMQwR5m6C84bXKJYf28nPYYutjGgCt1eR8yCfIHaLyBGV ZJw6M_8RFLAZ3YyPw1tQLkCeHYnUknvEzDIlRh4FTuOJwXQ66yXFnbgcOh0k oaCeqi_RnoH9b2Ak8GbSSUiuT8TMbaycGwY.7XNVraSkqpL4EMpL5DbEUhig 4NM279WrRah_nRggKtrbhFY4Dn3ia1uZHNE8O6wkPHvo5aMLsu5lTQV7IflD 9JPZlWi5XCYZQnxJXxU.qbNraX6iRPWAGsW8nGM2qeqn_ZrekQCs1bVdV8cf P252oXesKf9P0kf4efL6A262CJ3kqCI_eIelXdS833V85ay32w2jW5vLo9l2 9_tFFvsiE.mwRrsBeCKlPrF1xELF.bZ79E7_ZvjsuehSbmZF_poP3IXxMvv2 Q7SNz8b0J_lXC5gJkU9GlBmoJQ5WK7ARkMy79Av8p3w9WEtTrrUnFp3OXGvc bLhORTeVoSQR1OcLUaa1IeGFBg7M.pMAoIlLHD41P7fAoiKacpQ-- Received: from [66.242.210.8] by web126105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 04:40:25 PDT RGVubmlzLArCoCBJIHdvdWxkIGxpa2UgdHdvLCBwbGVhc2UuCsKgIFRoZSByZXNwb25zZSB0byB5b3VyIGlkZWEgaGFzIGJlZW4gbG93LiBQZXJoYXBzIGl0IGlzIGJlY2F1c2Ugb3VyIGZlbGxvdyByYWNlcnMgYXJlIG5vdCBmYW1pbGlhciB3aXRoIFJvYWQgQW1lcmljYSdzICJLaW5rIi4gQSBmYXN0IGJlbmQgaW4gdGhlIHRyYWNrIHdoZXJlIGEgZmV3IHBlb3BsZSBoYXZlIGRpZWQgYmVjYXVzZSB0aGV5IG1pc2p1ZGdlZCB0aGUgdHVybiwgb3IgaGFkIGNvbGQgdGlyZXMgaW4gb25lIGluc3RhbmNlIEkga24BMAEBAQE- References: <229678.12505.bm@smtp211.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 04:40:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Suhre To: Dennis DeLap , fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Don't Pass Me in the Kink Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Dennis, I would like two, please. The response to your idea has been low. Perhaps it is because our fellow racers are not familiar with Road America's "Kink". A fast bend in the track where a few people have died because they misjudged the turn, or had cold tires in one instance I know of. Ken Suhre ________________________________ From: Dennis DeLap To: fot Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 6:20 PM Subject: [Fot] Don't Pass Me in the Kink A M I C I I am thinking about having this bumper sticker made for the Kastner Cup. Anyone want one? Dennis _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kenandtweety@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 6 08:33:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A5E4275B for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 08:33:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d02.mx.aol.com (omr-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22CF54054C for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 08:30:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by omr-d02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id AC1CE700DB440; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 10:30:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtc005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtc005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.17]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 67B06E000085; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 10:30:46 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 10:30:45 -0400 (EDT) To: kenandtweety@yahoo.com, yellow-green@sbcglobal.net, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375799446; bh=gW4zgl94D65hnqZ+oXiYDt7qka16V05Mh3k1fNVIHX0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mPzDJ1zuT46ZAXOVFQ70kbcef62ph+J3/XmXbs8kKPBmOUXeOUxVkoP0X2vReH18r icZx0QGRjMu1QMJ8W+WPv7qdmQh2H5LszpEs/5fFcBqeemS1fU5ZADbEsfhFGF0+TY 09Nt1h0dAjGGhA/VdJvswTmIZxduJe9cBarVIK0A= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d520108963e10 Subject: Re: [Fot] Don't Pass Me in the Kink Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 08/06/2013 6:48:49 AM Central Daylight Time, kenandtweety@yahoo.com writes: > Dennis, > I would like two, please. > The response to your idea has been low. > Perhaps it is because our fellow racers are not familiar with Road > America's > "Kink". A fast bend in the track where a few people have died because they > misjudged the turn, or had cold tires in one instance I know of. > Ken Suhre > Amici... I have been racing at Road America for thirty years. Usually three events per year. A couple of years I even ran four events there. All of my experience has been 'vintage', and I have always felt that 'The Kink' should be a continuous standing yellow. The wide spread in experience, horsepower, and talent in vintage racing ought to bring sanctioning bodies to that conclusion. But so far it has not. At the Driver's Meetings, they all warn you of the potential for great danger in The Kink, but they still will allow passing. There are some experienced racers who are quite good at it. Sadly there are others who just 'think they are good at it'. The big issue is when the passing car on the inside leaves no room for the car being passed at the exit. The track is very, very narrow there, with concrete walls on both sides. When accidents do occur there, the racecars become like so many billiard balls on a snooker table. In all likelihood, Dennis Delap's proposed bumper sticker is being offered with 'tongue in cheek', but it is highly appropriate. Another idea would be for us to post a picture of Kent Howard's pretty red TR3A racecar flat towed back to the paddock after an ill advised pass by a Porsche 356 Coupe, whose driver 'ran out of talent in the kink. It was rolled into a ball, and a $20,000 racecar (today's market) became nearly worthless, except for a few parts. I've got one of those pictures, if someone wants to post it. In fact, there was a video of that crash. I do not know if that is still around. Were I the Grand Poo Bah of vintage racing, there would be no passing in The Kink at vintage racing events at Road America. But, of course, not much chance of my being elected to that position any time soon. Bill (Damdinger) PS All of the above notwithstanding... driving THE KINK at Road America is a near 'sexual experience'. That quote is from Bobby Rahal, describing Road America as one of the finest road racing circuit in the world. Rahal says an IndyCar will take that turn 'flat out'...but EVERY time he would approach it, there was a subconscious urge to lift. "Surely and IndyCar cannot take that turn Flat Out!" But done correctly...they can and do. Likewise, our cars can take the turn Flat Out, but believe me...it's a 'pucker point'. If you have not raced Road America before...you will LOVE IT, but be careful. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 6 08:53:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B99574278D for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 08:53:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0254040066 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 08:53:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.198]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id AB4FB700F663B; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 10:53:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 0804AE0001E0; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 10:53:30 -0400 (EDT) References: <6ece.6ca36667.3f326295@aol.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 09:53:28 -0500 To: "BillDentin@aol.com" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375800810; bh=z12OLV1+Y7kl8lQ+bob/38oW9wu/ZqGPqNgbZYWCJF8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=REYVPLaAhgO53KBLMYIZKYQ+n2hCG78JXyoxosKdx6qAzqZBfCHutXs+mh3Ug9eJQ ZTFFaq6xeb0SteKyRMPDvt6ysNctoR4IMddia4IIzlHglH0gZnNR5HUa3Sw8UYAD+u 5qtZUd4YzKiKItYEWU83nl/5KMuFtsjRriigq2qg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c652010de94c35 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Don't Pass Me in the Kink Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I still have the very comprehensive DVD study of Kent's accident at the Kink. Maybe we can review it at the KCup. Kent handled the accident very well...in fact we left for California the very next day in his TR4A. He was stiff and had a very black eye emerging, but in very good humor. The motorcycle guys have a "bus stop" turn in front of the Kink as a safety feature for them. And those guys are fearless. Joe A Sent from my iPad On Aug 6, 2013, at 9:30 AM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 08/06/2013 6:48:49 AM Central Daylight Time, > kenandtweety@yahoo.com writes: > > >> Dennis, >> I would like two, please. >> The response to your idea has been low. >> Perhaps it is because our fellow racers are not familiar with Road >> America's >> "Kink". A fast bend in the track where a few people have died because they >> misjudged the turn, or had cold tires in one instance I know of. >> Ken Suhre > > Amici... > > I have been racing at Road America for thirty years. Usually three events > per year. A couple of years I even ran four events there. All of my > experience has been 'vintage', and I have always felt that 'The Kink' should be a > continuous standing yellow. The wide spread in experience, horsepower, and > talent in vintage racing ought to bring sanctioning bodies to that > conclusion. But so far it has not. At the Driver's Meetings, they all warn you of > the potential for great danger in The Kink, but they still will allow > passing. There are some experienced racers who are quite good at it. Sadly there > are others who just 'think they are good at it'. The big issue is when the > passing car on the inside leaves no room for the car being passed at the > exit. The track is very, very narrow there, with concrete walls on both sides. > When accidents do occur there, the racecars become like so many billiard > balls on a snooker table. > > In all likelihood, Dennis Delap's proposed bumper sticker is being offered > with 'tongue in cheek', but it is highly appropriate. Another idea would be > for us to post a picture of Kent Howard's pretty red TR3A racecar flat > towed back to the paddock after an ill advised pass by a Porsche 356 Coupe, > whose driver 'ran out of talent in the kink. It was rolled into a ball, and a > $20,000 racecar (today's market) became nearly worthless, except for a few > parts. I've got one of those pictures, if someone wants to post it. In fact, > there was a video of that crash. I do not know if that is still around. > > Were I the Grand Poo Bah of vintage racing, there would be no passing in > The Kink at vintage racing events at Road America. But, of course, not much > chance of my being elected to that position any time soon. > > Bill (Damdinger) > > PS All of the above notwithstanding... driving THE KINK at Road America is > a near 'sexual experience'. That quote is from Bobby Rahal, describing Road > America as one of the finest road racing circuit in the world. Rahal says > an IndyCar will take that turn 'flat out'...but EVERY time he would approach > it, there was a subconscious urge to lift. "Surely and IndyCar cannot take > that turn Flat Out!" But done correctly...they can and do. Likewise, our > cars can take the turn Flat Out, but believe me...it's a 'pucker point'. If > you have not raced Road America before...you will LOVE IT, but be careful. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 6 10:59:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AEB4427CE for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 10:59:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s19.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s19.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.94]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D820C40043 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 10:59:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU173-W40 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s19.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 6 Aug 2013 09:59:42 -0700 From: Henry Morrison To: fot Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 10:59:42 -0600 FILETIME=[58B79810:01CE92C6] Subject: [Fot] TR4's abandon battlefield at HPR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net What happened to all you guys? There were five TR4's signed up for the event, but by the Sunday afternoon they were all gone. Kas needs to fly out and spank you guys! LOL Cheers, Henry Morrison _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 6 11:09:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E87F4282F for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 11:09:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s37.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s37.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.112]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD72942812 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 11:09:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU173-W37 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s37.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 6 Aug 2013 10:09:10 -0700 From: Henry Morrison To: fot Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 11:09:10 -0600 References: <6ece.6ca36667.3f326295@aol.com>, <548C1CDF-F40D-480D-8548-B978FAE24552@cs.com>, FILETIME=[AB35A590:01CE92C7] Subject: [Fot] FW: Don't Pass Me in the Kink Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net From: dos_gusanos@msn.com To: n197tr4@cs.com Subject: RE: [Fot] Don't Pass Me in the Kink Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 10:54:55 -0600 I could give a partial list of the race driver careers that I know have ended at the Kink, but I'll spare you. A couple of locals from Albuquerque restored a Formula Ford a few years back and took it on its first outing to Road America, and returned with it in a shoe box from a shunt at the Kink. It's one of those corners that in my slow car doesn't seem like much, but I'm probably lifting. Have fun, behave in the Kink, fight down at Siebkens. Cheers, Henry Morrison Albuquerque, NM > From: n197tr4@cs.com > Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 09:53:28 -0500 > To: BillDentin@aol.com > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Don't Pass Me in the Kink > > I still have the very comprehensive DVD study of Kent's accident at the Kink. > Maybe we can review it at the KCup. > > Kent handled the accident very well...in fact we left for California the very > next day in his TR4A. > > He was stiff and had a very black eye emerging, but in very good humor. > > The motorcycle guys have a "bus stop" turn in front of the Kink as a safety > feature for them. And those guys are fearless. > > Joe A > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 6, 2013, at 9:30 AM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 08/06/2013 6:48:49 AM Central Daylight Time, > > kenandtweety@yahoo.com writes: > > > > > >> Dennis, > >> I would like two, please. > >> The response to your idea has been low. > >> Perhaps it is because our fellow racers are not familiar with Road > >> America's > >> "Kink". A fast bend in the track where a few people have died because they > >> misjudged the turn, or had cold tires in one instance I know of. > >> Ken Suhre > > > > Amici... > > > > I have been racing at Road America for thirty years. Usually three events > > per year. A couple of years I even ran four events there. All of my > > experience has been 'vintage', and I have always felt that 'The Kink' should > be a > > continuous standing yellow. The wide spread in experience, horsepower, and > > talent in vintage racing ought to bring sanctioning bodies to that > > conclusion. But so far it has not. At the Driver's Meetings, they all warn > you of > > the potential for great danger in The Kink, but they still will allow > > passing. There are some experienced racers who are quite good at it. Sadly > there > > are others who just 'think they are good at it'. The big issue is when the > > passing car on the inside leaves no room for the car being passed at the > > exit. The track is very, very narrow there, with concrete walls on both > sides. > > When accidents do occur there, the racecars become like so many billiard > > balls on a snooker table. > > > > In all likelihood, Dennis Delap's proposed bumper sticker is being offered > > with 'tongue in cheek', but it is highly appropriate. Another idea would be > > for us to post a picture of Kent Howard's pretty red TR3A racecar flat > > towed back to the paddock after an ill advised pass by a Porsche 356 Coupe, > > whose driver 'ran out of talent in the kink. It was rolled into a ball, and > a > > $20,000 racecar (today's market) became nearly worthless, except for a few > > parts. I've got one of those pictures, if someone wants to post it. In > fact, > > there was a video of that crash. I do not know if that is still around. > > > > Were I the Grand Poo Bah of vintage racing, there would be no passing in > > The Kink at vintage racing events at Road America. But, of course, not much > > chance of my being elected to that position any time soon. > > > > Bill (Damdinger) > > > > PS All of the above notwithstanding... driving THE KINK at Road America is > > a near 'sexual experience'. That quote is from Bobby Rahal, describing Road > > America as one of the finest road racing circuit in the world. Rahal says > > an IndyCar will take that turn 'flat out'...but EVERY time he would approach > > it, there was a subconscious urge to lift. "Surely and IndyCar cannot take > > that turn Flat Out!" But done correctly...they can and do. Likewise, our > > cars can take the turn Flat Out, but believe me...it's a 'pucker point'. If > > you have not raced Road America before...you will LOVE IT, but be careful. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dos_gusanos@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 6 12:12:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6A74286F for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 12:12:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531574003A for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 12:09:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.35]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9UPd1m0050lTkoCABW9TgX; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 18:09:27 +0000 Received: from sz0004.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9W9T1m00K2xZMJ48QW9TcT; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 18:09:27 +0000 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 18:09:27 +0000 (UTC) From: toodamnfunky@comcast.net To: Henry Morrison s=q20121106; t=1375812567; bh=pcCwYa/V2O9fOWX96bgEiPFnwrfiHUyz/DkWYQO/644=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=DB5Bbusgmn+jcb5g85n+ywNrl834zym4AxezIV5wWTcLNfOQ+LiXuEx3aS0FOK9Hf Fo8RyZmfVuEeD0F0AhNRnVlC9nLhkYW+lb1F/FZu1QpeO0uorwvytrQksGd5jznHLE 2DZ4rD075/H97PfQNSDb/f1ryd9x6mIDarlB89iRIsM62y9wX/C8AgTSZQ0ZIQw2hJ ZjqYJnVBYRK81yNZejxOPaSbYMZw5x2nX/BypPhNzsgu2iexkxOxnrAz00/r794xJ3 RmAgVrevxuZPwPIDSWclWG1VWvpJwFF1dsdrL3Tl2eaSicetKmoHxdAkOug0M/zKGm 5uojxOOCm9t3Q== Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4's abandon battlefield at HPR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Well I set my all time best lap on Saturday but things went downhill from there. My Moroso crankcase extractor malfunctioned and was pushing oil out of the block, I broke my gas pedal off, ruined my front brakes and broke the starter and chorded a tire. Other than that Saturday went great for me. Christian Eden, Dan Forgey and Jim Roeloffs ran fine. Ty Thompson had a major thrash the week before putting in a motor only to have the distributor take out the cap & rotor. Fred blew a head gasket. Rather than stay up until midnight on Saturday working on the car I decided to just drink and have some B fun. B y about 10:00 AM Sunday they sent out the small bore track driers. I think everybody trailered up just be cau se the weather was so unpredictable. I'm going back out next Monday for T & T to make sure my venting problem is solved & ready for the K- Cup next month. jim g ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry Morrison" To: "fot" Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 10:59:42 AM Subject: [Fot] TR4's abandon battlefield at HPR What happened to all you guys? B There were five TR4's signed up for the event, but by the Sunday afternoon they were all gone. B Kas needs to fly out and spank you guys! B LOL Cheers, Henry Morrison _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 6 12:40:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E515B40511 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 12:40:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E63427F6 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 12:40:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.196]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 961A87000008A; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 14:40:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 248D2E00009A; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 14:40:38 -0400 (EDT) References: <876469585.1608936.1375812567414.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 13:40:37 -0500 To: "toodamnfunky@comcast.net" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375814438; bh=DUa2gHevNQBOeLEvKfCzvc7aB5nft+Yyx71TlaeZjfI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=D2hzQ8WLghl0w1YABGkTCw317dIvGW0LKJItxV0w10IQSLvGtQsIuGzjnTsoyjZPj ZvLQhKsz5s2B8UbTBlj/+xIEGy+tuApdWWW4OQ5khMtBSmCdHAqfyhq5nzXV0mow28 YZQ40UaYp3a2ha+AM5xjVp3sZsCVSc9gNU2uk6Ms= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c4520143263969 Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4's abandon battlefield at HPR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Extractor..... Sean and I have both gone to the parts store in search of something more OEM and durable, for the TR4 and the Ambro. Chris Marx experienced the same issue and fabricated his own. There's always something......... Joe A Sent from my iPad On Aug 6, 2013, at 1:09 PM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: > Well I set my all time best lap on Saturday but things went downhill from > there. My Moroso crankcase extractor malfunctioned > > and was pushing oil out of the block, I broke my gas pedal off, ruined my > front brakes and broke the starter > > and chorded a tire. > > > > Other than that Saturday went great for me. Christian Eden, Dan Forgey and Jim > Roeloffs ran fine. > > Ty Thompson had a major thrash the week before putting in a motor only to have > the distributor take out the > > cap & rotor. Fred blew a head gasket. > > Rather than stay up until midnight on Saturday working on the car I decided to > just drink and have some B fun. > > B y about 10:00 AM Sunday they sent out the small bore track driers. > > I think everybody trailered up just be cau se the weather was so > unpredictable. > > I'm going back out next Monday for T & T to make sure my venting problem is > solved & ready for the K- Cup > > next month. > > jim g > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Henry Morrison" > To: "fot" > Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 10:59:42 AM > Subject: [Fot] TR4's abandon battlefield at HPR > > What happened to all you guys? B There were five TR4's signed up for the > event, > but by the Sunday afternoon they were all gone. B Kas needs to fly out and > spank you guys! B LOL > > Cheers, Henry Morrison > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 6 18:47:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF33742A1C for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 18:47:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFBF9429CD for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 18:47:04 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=hvgIIyUVNqOnJ2q0mauDig==:17 a=XVpbgMd-d-8A:10 a=2kkpTaCU8TkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=YefIRmQhdt0A:10 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=AAvYLDLOAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=0v36diKFWHZyOXVmlTsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=s2loLT2QvaoA:10 a=hvgIIyUVNqOnJ2q0mauDig==:117 Received: from [166.137.148.129] ([166.137.148.129:61634] helo=[10.76.33.186]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id F0/7E-14128-60991025; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 00:47:03 +0000 References: <876469585.1608936.1375812567414.JavaMail.root@sz0004a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <0EB7E5D8-7742-4AA6-9A88-7E5317E298F1@cs.com> From: Bob Kramer Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 19:46:58 -0500 To: Joe Alexander Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4's abandon battlefield at HPR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We had a failure in my sons car too, blocked it off. Bob Kramer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Extractor..... > > Sean and I have both gone to the parts store in search of something more OEM > and durable, for the TR4 and the Ambro. > > Chris Marx experienced the same issue and fabricated his own. > > There's always something......... > > Joe A > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 6, 2013, at 1:09 PM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: > >> Well I set my all time best lap on Saturday but things went downhill from >> there. My Moroso crankcase extractor malfunctioned >> >> and was pushing oil out of the block, I broke my gas pedal off, ruined my >> front brakes and broke the starter >> >> and chorded a tire. >> >> >> >> Other than that Saturday went great for me. Christian Eden, Dan Forgey and > Jim >> Roeloffs ran fine. >> >> Ty Thompson had a major thrash the week before putting in a motor only to > have >> the distributor take out the >> >> cap & rotor. Fred blew a head gasket. >> >> Rather than stay up until midnight on Saturday working on the car I decided > to >> just drink and have some B fun. >> >> B y about 10:00 AM Sunday they sent out the small bore track driers. >> >> I think everybody trailered up just be cau se the weather was so >> unpredictable. >> >> I'm going back out next Monday for T & T to make sure my venting problem is >> solved & ready for the K- Cup >> >> next month. >> >> jim g >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> From: "Henry Morrison" >> To: "fot" >> Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 10:59:42 AM >> Subject: [Fot] TR4's abandon battlefield at HPR >> >> What happened to all you guys? B There were five TR4's signed up for the >> event, >> but by the Sunday afternoon they were all gone. B Kas needs to fly out and >> spank you guys! B LOL >> >> Cheers, Henry Morrison >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 7 13:13:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87D74294E for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 13:13:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35FA4287A for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 13:13:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.194]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id CBDAA700F755F for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 15:13:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.218.126.253] (unknown [166.137.84.188]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 21E68E0000A6 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 15:13:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Bock Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 15:13:15 -0400 To: FoTTriumph x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375902801; bh=Rp60eOBzX5eT0gzqilBxnKbateUImrPCIIz5m+Kw5JE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=TsdcSUxejdTkvUlPRqhAf9nu9ESzFh7DiAxuEvRsJFQz3fVds1DOimRN41az6frNQ e8SNl14Ax5if015iL8VjElv5XyVa0pg4wjICuJzzXtx6KovJRnK5Kon2sVIedFMd3C gHCV5R0x24CklqA5hdlz7qM9gUYNmkeduh4r3vYs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c252029c510554 Subject: [Fot] Electric connections Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici What is the best practice for electric connections, crimp or solder? Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 7 13:19:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3476429C0 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 13:19:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from ex.dunnwalshholdings.com (ex.dunnwalshholdings.com [173.219.117.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38FB94287A for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 13:19:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::6cea:93a1:26a:8c3c]) by TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::6cea:93a1:26a:8c3c%15]) with mapi; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 12:19:35 -0700 From: Edward Dunn To: Christopher Bock , FoTTriumph Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 12:19:18 -0700 Thread-Topic: [Fot] Electric connections Thread-Index: Ac6TojThb7Cdesd6RPmixR921gtB6gAAJzbQ References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: Re: [Fot] Electric connections Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I typically use waterproof (marine) heat shrink, crimp connectors. Edward Dunn West Coast Vintage Racing 2240 Encinitas Blvd., Suite D101 Encinitas CA 92024 760-492-3814 www.vintageracing.us -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Christopher Bock Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 12:13 PM To: FoTTriumph Subject: [Fot] Electric connections Amici What is the best practice for electric connections, crimp or solder? Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 7 13:28:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA10429DE for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 13:28:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy2-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy2-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.18.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A7FE74287A for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 13:24:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 7903 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2013 19:24:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy3.unifiedlayer.com) (66.147.243.72) by roproxy2.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2013 19:24:05 -0000 {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Received: from just64.justhost.com (just64.justhost.com [173.254.28.64]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.84); Wed, 07 Aug 2013 19:24:05 GMT Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=57280 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V79L3-0003N8-E3; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 13:24:05 -0600 Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 14:24:01 -0500 To: Christopher Bock ,FoTTriumph From: Tony Drews References: {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] Electric connections Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I solder anything I can. I usually run some heat shrink tubing over the joint between the connector and the wire after soldering. I make an effort to minimize the number of connections / connectors too. Every connection is a possible point of failure. Tony Drews At 02:13 PM 8/7/2013, Christopher Bock wrote: >Amici > >What is the best practice for electric connections, crimp or solder? > >Chris >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 7 13:44:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D1A42A2C for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 13:44:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f44.google.com (mail-wg0-f44.google.com [74.125.82.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 221DF427C8 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 13:43:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id l18so1854226wgh.11 for ; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:43:41 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=HKwKXSwBU7eVJZd/FlckQWMbjtCxS0MMXYsk4nosslQ=; b=AkhPWuHTHAkv9x4H7tUQgWCpZqQFGluYLidzxZFKhMbs7cDb4rb4yvNEJGP00mZdbo VlW6YWHTSyp6kzxz6iGbiJH451aEqyqs+1RL/TmvlwnD4kqs2/qgxy+22IyIzYJW3mUS mZ4g5XjL8Ph1Sc6ezuNhsXh+N1tG6AS88kaunOHfJ4uh9W7rD4RnpkA7fBbJGzkwgXKi UsqvEGiKPxYnJ9flI9nq5+l246kYY9KyU1gkY/c+bPXE8in+nPEKnGXV1FbDDvocBC7G IajjZNBJnQ06RPWcgqxGgTuVzmt+FWpDtn4brXxUCgZgapOZ4GqJvgTvL4ekcCZwYH6k WySw== es20mr3166802wic.37.1375904621056; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:43:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.27.200 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 12:43:40 -0700 (PDT) References: <20130807192833.4681B429E5@autox.team.net> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 15:43:40 -0400 From: Robert Deanes To: Tony Drews Cc: FoTTriumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Electric connections Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I use Edward's idea but use the crimpers that don't break the plastic seal...these have worked great for many years in our tough marine enviroment ....salt water and a rough seas...TR never sees this ...I hope ! Both ways are good. On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > I solder anything I can. I usually run some heat shrink tubing over the > joint between the connector and the wire after soldering. I make an effort > to minimize the number of connections / connectors too. Every connection > is a possible point of failure. > > Tony Drews > > > At 02:13 PM 8/7/2013, Christopher Bock wrote: > >> Amici >> >> What is the best practice for electric connections, crimp or solder? >> >> Chris >> ______________________________**_________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >> options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com >> > ______________________________**_________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 7 13:52:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0BBF429E9 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 13:52:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-gh0-f174.google.com (mail-gh0-f174.google.com [209.85.160.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5DB40E4E for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 13:51:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-gh0-f174.google.com with SMTP id r17so663527ghr.5 for ; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:51:56 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-gm-message-state:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=t+24kwo/Y6JBRLalZxQS3c5YcwBpWtK1RhVBO0O0jy8=; b=ZOCULEvsb5bmt/LA709TXQihAvOHu+pfTfeIhoAiUmQSoy4CVTT9k3Amo3Bzah82DP rafxUNup+Iq22Amw2G2Ro0U7ReBSNe9kN8mVYxq6lECpteemoj/FzttfycCPRvNq2sXz XErTUpnEcWw+ABiAcTpEDXu7f+pSfNtdU8w7rVI5Ik5Hcov7vrZE8PguWsLev69ka1eq vtNQe7CdScqPtbRzNc8wBQAetYAQ4EflQDP2xhcgsW7RM8aJ3rFPZ9GEcac+Amm7NhHv dndR6Z3yy+Yy2nAJVe9ESsjcQ9rPhon7YbCXma2yr7J23T92M3bMWsNMHOFhw1845Xyd bbYQ== t61mr2771132yhp.117.1375905116532; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2600:1005:b012:dbb:8c35:98ee:7c11:8eb? ([2600:1005:b012:dbb:8c35:98ee:7c11:8eb]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o1sm11613147yho.2.2013.08.07.12.51.54 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:51:55 -0700 (PDT) References: <20130807192830.93B64429E5@autox.team.net> From: Bob Bownes -Seiri Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 15:51:53 -0400 To: Tony Drews Cc: FoTTriumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Electric connections Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I follow the NASA guidelines and crimp everything with the proper size connectors and crimp tool, then put heat shrink on, then fasten down the wire with adell clamps or other suitable devices every 6-8". Not a single electrical related failure ever except when I skipped one or more of the steps. But that was a rain light. :) On Aug 7, 2013, at 15:24, Tony Drews wrote: > I solder anything I can. I usually run some heat shrink tubing over the joint between the connector and the wire after soldering. I make an effort to minimize the number of connections / connectors too. Every connection is a possible point of failure. > > Tony Drews > > At 02:13 PM 8/7/2013, Christopher Bock wrote: >> Amici >> >> What is the best practice for electric connections, crimp or solder? >> >> Chris >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 7 14:04:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5183142A02 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:04:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mercury.fastbytes.com (mercury.fastbytes.com [216.183.230.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D7F4287A for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:04:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from TimDellVostro [192.200.136.236] by mercury.fastbytes.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.00) id A8353E0332; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 15:04:05 -0500 From: "Tim Murphy" To: "'Christopher Bock'" , "'FoTTriumph'" References: Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 15:05:58 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac6TopXyBO8Z5UbjRiqtK6pRw6nxHwABozGA Content-Language: en-us Organization: FastBytesWireless Inc. Subject: Re: [Fot] Electric connections Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If there is flexing of the wire near the connection I think a crimp is better due to the solder connection making the wire very stiff at the connection and the flexing will tend to break the wire at that point. The key to a good crimp connection is to use a good "industrial" crimper, not the one typically found on a wire strippers. FWIW Tim -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Christopher Bock Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 2:13 PM To: FoTTriumph Subject: [Fot] Electric connections Amici What is the best practice for electric connections, crimp or solder? Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph@fastbytes.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 7 14:14:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEDF542721 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:14:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20624287A for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:08:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.28.17]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MR600AMOFYQ2X40@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 15:08:51 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Christopher Bock" , "FoTTriumph" References: Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 16:08:48 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] Electric connections Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've had good results with crimping. HOWEVER, don't source your connectors from China Freight. Buy quality connectors from an electronics store. And use a good crimper. Mine's made by Channellock, 15 miles down the road in Meadville. I actually broke a pair of cheapo's a few years back while crimping a connector. And pinched my finger doing it! Also use heat shrink tubing. It's a tube, cut to your needed lenght, you install over the connector (leave an inch or so beyond the connector, on the wire) and heat it with a heat gun. It shrinks over the connector and wire and protects the connector and wire. Acts as a strain relief. Heat shrink comes in different sizes and colors so you can color code if you want. It's available at most part stores. Or McMaster-Carr. Some guys swear by soldering, but I've not had a failure with crimped connections. Also, like welding, there's a technique to soldering that not everybody masters. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Bock" To: "FoTTriumph" Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 3:13 PM Subject: [Fot] Electric connections > Amici > > What is the best practice for electric connections, crimp or solder? > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 7 14:19:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CCD429EB for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:19:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF15940E1C for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:19:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 739E2A1907 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:19:29 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 14:19:28 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/22.0 SeaMonkey/2.19 To: FoTTriumph References: <20130807192823.F41F44299F@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] Electric connections Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tony Drews wrote: > I solder anything I can. I usually run some heat shrink tubing over > the joint between the connector and the wire after soldering. For connections that won't allow heat shrink tubing, I usually use the liquid electrical tape, as they call it. Well, I did forget once when hooking up a single wire alternator on Killer right before a race. That was the one where the wire came loose and did an electric discharge machining job on my front brake line. Festive! mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 7 14:30:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE7442A38 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:30:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71A7429E1 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:27:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9wAX1m00616AWCUA3wTioU; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 20:27:42 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9wTi1m0082xZMJ48SwTiTM; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 20:27:42 +0000 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 20:27:42 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Tim Murphy s=q20121106; t=1375907262; bh=1iRSMkGK4D4QDgzvCZfAHu+dWwD3IUArGLi3TqbtdJI=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=ZzDaYYIXLd708EEpgphUucRgGya/8c2+MxkNWtBbNh+gkrVDRAqJKdReKOV7ur0EE kuvn0xccNecqzMbNzFz8nqA/dwAiMxQqPovtoPl6gYkyV4FC5vQ4HMKlm4genInXu+ /lcsZii8xGm+6kESM+hpVOAJF5lRwObJl8KIeVMM3rl4Q1DW88AKnMT6hr4eorYB8Y MG/QL52iqMgYHfBW8jbqx+7S3UTCI9l6/GXG1gLiyLlwnjALbOj5EU7fSF3h4mEZkX Hz3WzKgFUJ3VwcIaBGLApIWE/t+zi66vRKKlFndipCUaPGgf2DwA+7+FYavdOyoHi3 eX7rsIYbdEEdQ== Cc: FoTTriumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Electric connections Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Crimp or solder, I always solder, heat shrink will stabilize and help seal the connection. Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Murphy" To: "Christopher Bock" , "FoTTriumph" Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 1:05:58 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Electric connections If there is flexing of the wire near the connection I think a crimp is better due to the solder connection making the wire very stiff at the connection and the flexing will tend to break the wire at that point. The key to a good crimp connection is to use a good "industrial" crimper, not the one typically found on a wire strippers. FWIW Tim -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Christopher Bock Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 2:13 PM To: FoTTriumph Subject: [Fot] Electric connections Amici What is the best practice for electric connections, crimp or solder? Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph@fastbytes.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 7 14:52:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA0942A54 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:52:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail202c2.megamailservers.com (mail202c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58759429C7 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:52:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.228.53.145] (173.sub-174-254-144.myvzw.com [174.254.144.173]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail202c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r77Kpx3d019283 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 7 Aug 2013 16:52:02 -0400 References: From: John Hasty Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 16:51:58 -0400 To: Christopher Bock a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=iJSRF0RICesk4dJS+bSGMQ==:17 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=65jiCuXJ3nciMqNrMQQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=iJSRF0RICesk4dJS+bSGMQ==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: FoTTriumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Electric connections Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Solder Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2013, at 3:13 PM, Christopher Bock wrote: > Amici > > What is the best practice for electric connections, crimp or solder? > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 7 16:17:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C984284B for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 16:17:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F5C24271C for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 16:17:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id tp5so545866ieb.13 for ; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 15:17:11 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-gm-message-state:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=APCQXOola1TQHRP7IAXnBkBVBSpxOlJ6W0xwS9trLgk=; b=hgRghy+0bHFWNVVnZUAZ0nFx8NYADiPwOcYZuqeR6dzY8NLmm0Dl3Gm5p/7vWP6HTJ dAbo/AAHalcvCksr8pzqLVyX2LKRgwGo8yu3roZWX6aMuf3N5ZrPwKOFU+eGxOrOVQ5I 4nx3qpdB/hx3r5BmiD5YM0qhtULt3vq+pxx7n0pZngUSD5qpalBeLUateHlHadowa56F h7B07rAYIbWmt5KrgOUjsGODFET5fSRTbYZUK3dekWjDZWEBl/u0aMEcDSpqTMtF7DJy 17NW+i2L1CC6yfH6CCKGVYZ2yc1JENQ7EjSRcYJQHxhuZUmyln1mwNMvszYavwlXvr9i 3eew== vf13mr680526igb.58.1375913831635; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 15:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.132.29.103] ([166.205.67.8]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g5sm2310146igc.9.2013.08.07.15.17.09 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 07 Aug 2013 15:17:10 -0700 (PDT) References: <301E083D-0398-4686-B9DF-F21F1D4CFF68@gdhs.com> From: Bob Bownes -Seiri Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 18:17:07 -0400 To: John Hasty Cc: FoTTriumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Electric connections Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The key to avoiding failure is keeping the wires from vibrating at the terminal wire junction. On Aug 7, 2013, at 16:51, John Hasty wrote: > Solder > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 7, 2013, at 3:13 PM, Christopher Bock wrote: > >> Amici >> >> What is the best practice for electric connections, crimp or solder? >> >> Chris >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 7 17:04:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE3542A0C for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 17:04:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f46.google.com (mail-oa0-f46.google.com [209.85.219.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20BA642852 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 17:04:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id l10so4407699oag.19 for ; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 16:04:32 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=TPNXkYHY7VVQin2ZBEmzGt77vc7naClQ1x6dCNf3lUY=; b=suk3PZWkztSyR342x6DeJXpKDcqeERdFLMvnv5F+3hZCDv4G4ew050xICsRZsr5hzL UO+3HYu15TBooX1D27Fr9GDxpW6f8jawwGoEyolziq4EjVeJwKEPolWAoPFS/D4H5VGD lyNM469xFGIV0BGBiywQNer0Uxs/FO99RcKc09C90ldktAzcFnpGtUaAZOhea2Zpz2ja odsxy9FXfduy/0x76ofFDOYKcDnDiO4TSD2dw6WihqTD+jZpmu6NRz8iJ0yoc3uXE0r/ MHxZAL9neVVDmtf6/TlB0fwT3oVvFji5VKmykN4x4ndHlbbJM3S2Icqc8GI6uQxaZCgE ibkQ== k5mr4416963obx.31.1375916672273; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 16:04:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id cp7sm10518521obb.0.2013.08.07.16.04.31 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 07 Aug 2013 16:04:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:50:21 -0500 References: To: FoTTriumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Electric connections Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Chris, People who have built homebuilt aircraft can get pretty particular about making failure-resistant electrical connections. One local homebuilder was a regular writer for the EAA magazine. He suggested 1) use military-spec wire or similar (more strands in each conductor and the insulation was Tefzel or Teflon, ie: fire resistant), 2) strip the wire back using a stripper that cuts the insulation at a bevel, 3) "tin" the wire using solder before assembly, making sure the solder wicks up under the insulation (not easy to do with PVC insulation), 4) insert and crimp (with proper crimp tool), 5) touch with the soldering iron to close up the gaps between the terminal and the conductor, and 6) add heat-shrink tubing for strain relief. Several of these steps allow the strain to be spread more evenly rather than allowing all the flex to occur where the conductor enters the crimp. Duncan (Texas) On Aug 7, 2013, at 2:13 PM, Christopher Bock wrote: > Amici > > What is the best practice for electric connections, crimp or solder? > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 7 17:18:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1671A42A2B for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 17:18:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA046429A7 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 17:17:36 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=gJeEvGvsv9AA:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=GwaRjh2nSTR9fDDGSxwA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=6A/OvQor+YwyjOO4FWhaEA==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.161] ([10.127.132.161:47740] helo=cdptpa-web10-z02) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 7B/E1-14128-F85D2025; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 23:17:35 +0000 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 23:17:35 +0000 From: Randall To: FoTTriumph Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [Fot] Electric connections Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Christopher Bock wrote: > Amici > > What is the best practice for electric connections, crimp or solder? Just in case you haven't already gotten every possible response, my preference is to do both. Strip off the cheap plastic insulator (or buy uninsulated terminals to start with), insert the wire so a little bit protrudes from the crimp area, crimp firmly, then solder the protruding end. Add some heat shrink to cover the area and provide strain relief, the result will outlast you. Years ago I worked for a company that installed minicomputer systems on board seismic survey ships. During a survey, those ships would set off the equivalent of a keg (or more) of dynamite under the stern of the ship, every 5-8 seconds, for days on end. Our factory used carefully calibrated ratcheting crimpers and expensive connectors (gold plated in many cases). And yet, almost every trip I went out on, I found bad connections. I learned to repair them with the crimp plus solder method (using an ordinary hand crimper), never found one of those that had failed (without extenuating circumstances, like the cable ripped out of the housing). Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 7 17:33:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFDB442A11 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 17:33:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m07.mx.aol.com (omr-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B6FC42A11 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 17:33:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.3]) by omr-m07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7D540700000A7; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 19:33:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 6BF31E000125; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 19:32:46 -0400 (EDT) References: <20130807172064.SM2006516@IMAIL12> From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 18:32:44 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375918386; bh=zsSuxkbL86MeXoeksnuEXQ/GoyH86AxYAYgleJIWfLA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=X9rUkpHE6zf1KyE8udTn6fnJUDmtZ0/x4L7/5tyJM5vHLq1HSZn+emUMWJy5wBxtN F0ybB0F/Ag4RFg3Q0QbmnwODodzuX/AoctDKx/1rFi+krq1jMfMDBo/QqiWA+dRixv q4u1XsQ9+uwlLdKFJF7uagM22+jEzn9ungji+qDY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29035202d91e7478 Cc: Seth Mcgee Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Dyno Results Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net List, Mike is getting his TR3A ready for Bonneville. Engine is prepared to street specs per Kastner's book. But it is fitted like the TR2 for the Jabbeke Trials.... Spats, Belly Pan, Hard Tonneau, Brooklands Screen, etc. Does anyone have any words of wisdom for Mike? This is a private grassroots effort. Our kind of guy, really. Seems like it might be fun to get behind this and have visibility to the results. Thanks everyone. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: "Seth Mcgee" > Date: August 7, 2013, 5:20:33 PM CDT > To: n197tr4@cs.com > Subject: Dyno Results > > Joe, > > I had the car dyno tuned today. Results are in the attached chart. The car seemed to perform OK except it has a drop off of power at 4500 rpm. The chart does not show it but power recovers but at a lower value after 4500 rpm. The dyno people thought it was the spark plug wires which are new from Moss Motors; however, if you touch the wires at the plug/wire interface you get a big shock which should not happen. > > Based on your TR experience, could bad wires cause the abrupt drop off of power at 4500 rpm and what is a good brand of wires to buy? > > I used the NGK BP8HS plugs for the test. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 7 19:52:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D4842B46 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 19:52:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d07.mx.aol.com (omr-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0D7E42B02 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 19:50:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by omr-d07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id DB37A700D5923 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 21:50:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dec003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dec003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.53.201]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 6DCB6E000085 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 21:50:06 -0400 (EDT) References: <20130807172064.SM2006516@IMAIL12> <00827F77-62F4-4919-8F86-05139240D740@cs.com> To: fot@autox.team.net From: robertten1@aol.com Received: from 96.233.64.253 by webmail-m152.sysops.aol.com (64.12.159.2) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 07 Aug 2013 21:50:06 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 21:50:06 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375926606; bh=00OnREOwqaC/2S3nQMvAws8E4HXZzUUDUkWmYDeKAaQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=a0sIRs6ZrQDvZloaJZv8szJXY7TiWLSczcrj6NnIl4pEAnMPhcsCWZOXuwy7YSm1C G/Zb6B76yp33q5EbioW4D15bbovYAwtDM0yOuBbedolDRLZQCC59BRu45Jhz6areYu faPLrglhH6Bb3s4FcSys+WCK7DOX2ePws94C//WM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b5202f94e390c Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Dyno Results Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mike, May all your runs be TRiumphant ones !! A prayer for the Salt, Bob T -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander To: fot Cc: Seth Mcgee Sent: Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:33 pm Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Dyno Results List, Mike is getting his TR3A ready for Bonneville. Engine is prepared to street specs per Kastner's book. But it is fitted like the TR2 for the Jabbeke Trials.... Spats, Belly Pan, Hard Tonneau, Brooklands Screen, etc. Does anyone have any words of wisdom for Mike? This is a private grassroots effort. Our kind of guy, really. Seems like it might be fun to get behind this and have visibility to the esults. Thanks everyone. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: "Seth Mcgee" Date: August 7, 2013, 5:20:33 PM CDT To: n197tr4@cs.com Subject: Dyno Results Joe, I had the car dyno tuned today. Results are in the attached chart. The car eemed to perform OK except it has a drop off of power at 4500 rpm. The chart oes not show it but power recovers but at a lower value after 4500 rpm. The yno people thought it was the spark plug wires which are new from Moss otors; however, if you touch the wires at the plug/wire interface you get a ig shock which should not happen. Based on your TR experience, could bad wires cause the abrupt drop off of ower at 4500 rpm and what is a good brand of wires to buy? I used the NGK BP8HS plugs for the test. ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 7 20:21:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8DF42A8F for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 20:21:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from ewout03.consolidated.net (ewout03.consolidated.net [206.123.242.150]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E977427D0 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 20:18:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.106] ([72.251.169.90]) by ewout03.consolidated.net ({7f4c37df-33fe-4041-bc97-39fcf9138839}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTPSA id 20130808021837769 (AUTH triumphs@consolidated.net); Thu, 08 Aug 2013 02:18:37 +0000 References: <08D0D356-FA06-4362-906D-3660E9D24D50@gmail.com> From: Home Consolidated Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 21:18:32 -0500 To: Duncan Charlton Cc: FoTTriumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Electric connections Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I watched / helped Dan Masters install the prototype of what became Advanced Wire's TR3 harness. This is exactly the procedure he suggested. (I do not recall the part about beveling the insulation, but it makes sense). In 11 years and about 80k miles, I have yet to have a failure ( which, of course insures a failure soon :-) ) Ken Gano Sent from my iPad On Aug 7, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Duncan Charlton wrote: > Chris, > > People who have built homebuilt aircraft can get pretty particular about > making failure-resistant electrical connections. One local homebuilder was a > regular writer for the EAA magazine. He suggested 1) use military-spec wire > or similar (more strands in each conductor and the insulation was Tefzel or > Teflon, ie: fire resistant), 2) strip the wire back using a stripper that cuts > the insulation at a bevel, 3) "tin" the wire using solder before assembly, > making sure the solder wicks up under the insulation (not easy to do with PVC > insulation), 4) insert and crimp (with proper crimp tool), 5) touch with the > soldering iron to close up the gaps between the terminal and the conductor, > and 6) add heat-shrink tubing for strain relief. Several of these steps allow > the strain to be spread more evenly rather than allowing all the flex to occur > where the conductor enters the crimp. > > Duncan > (Texas) > > On Aug 7, 2013, at 2:13 PM, Christopher Bock wrote: > >> Amici >> >> What is the best practice for electric connections, crimp or solder? >> >> Chris >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphs@consolidated.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 7 20:54:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E925F42B70 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 20:54:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9681442AA0 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 20:48:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF233A1907 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 20:48:44 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 20:48:44 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/22.0 SeaMonkey/2.19 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <20130807172064.SM2006516@IMAIL12> <00827F77-62F4-4919-8F86-05139240D740@cs.com> <8D061F0BDC3DC50-1B58-AD76@webmail-m152.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Dyno Results Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net robertten1@aol.com wrote: > Mike, > > May all your runs be TRiumphant ones !! > > A prayer for the Salt, > Too bad the Salt Flats are SO far away from my house. Almost a whole 2 hour drive. But maybe I can make it out there... mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 8 05:36:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E427642DBB for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 05:36:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED17442A4E for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 05:36:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.196]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 76EE1700000B6 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 07:36:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.218.126.253] (unknown [166.137.84.188]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id BF4FBE0000B6 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 07:36:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Bock Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 07:35:54 -0400 To: FoTTriumph x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375961766; bh=CmtjnUaeRI6ZRUgH6zJDE/wRDFLaa7U0UnGRHdpHM8I=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=nX8ImsdCIHNDnXtiJ+gbd/PEvQgeq/gViFm0HOyomrovtc89FO2wIrxDCB/VUaLEk +HlxYbRS7q0zmrsms72LKHGYXgTNWRjsDnLn8qwrL2Zfht8I4ehMsFMg9cdk9zdim0 bwL8LL0pDIRIMOBEuJvc8//EAFJFYk8hhXVQbtqU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c4520382a07770 Subject: [Fot] Electric connections~ thank you all Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici Thank you for all of the responses! It seems that crimping is ok Crimping with heat shrink tubing is better. Soldering with heat shrink tubing is better. Crimping and soldering with heat shrink tubing is even better. But making sure the wires are supported and don't flop around is the key goal. Thank you again I love this group! Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 8 06:57:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEFA42E02 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 06:57:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail175c2.megamailservers.com (mail175c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F4042C61 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 06:57:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.229.236.161] (115.sub-174-237-3.myvzw.com [174.237.3.115]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail175c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r78CvSZp024277 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 8 Aug 2013 08:57:31 -0400 References: <20130807172064.SM2006516@IMAIL12> <00827F77-62F4-4919-8F86-05139240D740@cs.com> <8D061F0BDC3DC50-1B58-AD76@webmail-m152.sysops.aol.com> From: John Hasty Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 08:57:26 -0400 To: "robertten1@aol.com" a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=oSsJaQg07LwAKVZIJQqVCg==:17 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=OWKKUO1RAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=p8UBZm3Ru1BlnhQoS1sA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=7kCX84TN_rQA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=oSsJaQg07LwAKVZIJQqVCg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Dyno Results Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mike. I know Jim Stecht (sp) who built and drove the record holding Alfa on the flats. Bet he will probably be there. He is the one you should talk to. I'll get his # tomorrow and send it along. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2013, at 9:50 PM, robertten1@aol.com wrote: > Mike, > > May all your runs be TRiumphant ones !! > > A prayer for the Salt, > Bob T > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Alexander > To: fot > Cc: Seth Mcgee > Sent: Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:33 pm > Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Dyno Results > > > List, > Mike is getting his TR3A ready for Bonneville. > Engine is prepared to street specs per Kastner's book. > But it is fitted like the TR2 for the Jabbeke Trials.... > Spats, Belly Pan, Hard Tonneau, Brooklands Screen, etc. > Does anyone have any words of wisdom for Mike? > This is a private grassroots effort. Our kind of guy, really. > Seems like it might be fun to get behind this and have visibility to the > esults. > Thanks everyone. > Sent from my iPad > Begin forwarded message: >> From: "Seth Mcgee" > Date: August 7, 2013, 5:20:33 PM CDT > To: n197tr4@cs.com > Subject: Dyno Results > > Joe, > > I had the car dyno tuned today. Results are in the attached chart. The car > eemed to perform OK except it has a drop off of power at 4500 rpm. The chart > oes not show it but power recovers but at a lower value after 4500 rpm. The > yno people thought it was the spark plug wires which are new from Moss > otors; however, if you touch the wires at the plug/wire interface you get a > ig shock which should not happen. > > Based on your TR experience, could bad wires cause the abrupt drop off of > ower at 4500 rpm and what is a good brand of wires to buy? > > I used the NGK BP8HS plugs for the test. > ______________________________________________ > ot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > rchive: http://www.team.net/archive > orums: http://www.team.net/forums > nsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 8 07:13:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB9D942E2A for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 07:13:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d04.mx.aol.com (omr-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.201]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76C542D06 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 07:13:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.195]) by omr-d04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8D1FD7000439F; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 09:13:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 1A333E0000AF; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 09:13:23 -0400 (EDT) References: <20130807172064.SM2006516@IMAIL12> <00827F77-62F4-4919-8F86-05139240D740@cs.com> <8D061F0BDC3DC50-1B58-AD76@webmail-m152.sysops.aol.com> <2EDE5F75-123A-4EA2-8E37-69060DAC24FC@gdhs.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 08:13:22 -0500 To: John Hasty x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375967603; bh=QX0DMEWMSyzrIeuXk+MjF99aWaWAwH60FyrIpRSWOi8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=dGEri7RPz9224fXqaAG3/2h/jH7CCmRZFay+k+HBPBe9B6lzLJgN2/1g2g7XR9ESi /lSL1hm5uU8+I0f6gJas2ycQ9issV+3hTq4Ji29CPqcd/oEjq6Gqnbbdi88IkXRL6j ozjJaqZ4TumFQs1q0QHZCzSIB/DcNq2lFT88D78Y= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c3520399733cba Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Dyno Results Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Once again, what a great list. I have invited Mike to join the FOT list. If it suits him, he may accept. I believe his effort is more to commemorate and honor the Triumph on the 60th Anniversary of the Jabbeke Run. At 4500 feet it might be difficult to match the speed, but does it really matter? Thanks..... Sent from my iPad On Aug 8, 2013, at 7:57 AM, John Hasty wrote: > Mike. I know Jim Stecht (sp) who built and drove the record holding Alfa on > the flats. Bet he will probably be there. He is the one you should talk to. > I'll get his # tomorrow and send it along. > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 7, 2013, at 9:50 PM, robertten1@aol.com wrote: > >> Mike, >> >> May all your runs be TRiumphant ones !! >> >> A prayer for the Salt, >> Bob T >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Joe Alexander >> To: fot >> Cc: Seth Mcgee >> Sent: Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:33 pm >> Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Dyno Results >> >> >> List, >> Mike is getting his TR3A ready for Bonneville. >> Engine is prepared to street specs per Kastner's book. >> But it is fitted like the TR2 for the Jabbeke Trials.... >> Spats, Belly Pan, Hard Tonneau, Brooklands Screen, etc. >> Does anyone have any words of wisdom for Mike? >> This is a private grassroots effort. Our kind of guy, really. >> Seems like it might be fun to get behind this and have visibility to the >> esults. >> Thanks everyone. >> Sent from my iPad >> Begin forwarded message: >>> From: "Seth Mcgee" >> Date: August 7, 2013, 5:20:33 PM CDT >> To: n197tr4@cs.com >> Subject: Dyno Results >> >> Joe, >> >> I had the car dyno tuned today. Results are in the attached chart. The car >> eemed to perform OK except it has a drop off of power at 4500 rpm. The > chart >> oes not show it but power recovers but at a lower value after 4500 rpm. The >> yno people thought it was the spark plug wires which are new from Moss >> otors; however, if you touch the wires at the plug/wire interface you get a >> ig shock which should not happen. >> >> Based on your TR experience, could bad wires cause the abrupt drop off of >> ower at 4500 rpm and what is a good brand of wires to buy? >> >> I used the NGK BP8HS plugs for the test. >> ______________________________________________ >> ot@autox.team.net >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> rchive: http://www.team.net/archive >> orums: http://www.team.net/forums >> nsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1@aol.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 8 07:23:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F5642E3A for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 07:23:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s2.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s2.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25F542D4C for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 07:23:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W48 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s2.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 8 Aug 2013 06:23:33 -0700 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 09:23:32 -0400 FILETIME=[7AD9EF40:01CE943A] Subject: [Fot] Belated thank you for radiator advice Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A week or so ago I posted a call for advice on a radiator height issue on a TR4. I usually try and send individual responses but time got away from me with all that was going on trying to finish the car up so he could take it to the TRF Summer Party last weekend. Oh, by the way it was great to visit with a couple of the FOT faithful at the Summer Party. Anyhow, thanks much for all the replies offering great advice to my dilema of the radiator top outlet matching up with the thermostat housing. As it turned out Wizard had done a design revision about a year ago to correct (or at least improve) this issue. My buddy was lucky enough to be shipped one of the pre-changed radiators. He contacted Wizard and they offered to modify his radiator to the new design at no charge if he would send it to them. What I did to get him going was machine up a couple of 3/8 delrin spacers to raise the radiator up slightly. It really didn't look too bad with the spacers in place and it cleared the bonnet. I am not sure if he is going to bother with getting the radiator changed when he gets back home with the car. Now that that car is out of the shop I can start prepping the Spitfire for the Kastner Cup. See you all next month. Marty _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 8 10:34:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1241342FED for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 10:34:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE49942F44 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 10:33:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.197]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 65AD87000009B for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 12:33:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id D11CEE0000B2 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 12:33:50 -0400 (EDT) References: <000501ce9451$f20a0d90$d61e28b0$@klaenv.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 11:33:50 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375979631; bh=m5jhZ8xMJpjiFOQ7Xf6ujgqJ3KhwwR5Ft3esBgB+ycY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=n6voedZenBXoQltvqGwhj/789X2bOdv4KvtlgDeeqAXCI+f4MFGmKi2NpsjAdXhyv QzOG9+WsWBzkjBaJv8A58ky/L5rU5p+tJE7DiLOdgVV1OflITigiGGDdTFujMocp3J EfQ9KURzcxxZGu+dBfFpnw1tIDsG8ywhaTM4u618= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c55203c86e728f Subject: [Fot] ELVF. FAQ? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > Joe: > > I have my entry in for the ELVF and it has been accepted, even got my car #! So that is great. Early entries are a good idea. > > I have a couple of questions. Do you know if they have full time tire service at RA? What is the situation with the gas, will they have 110? > This is a big enough event that I think there will be full service on tires and you can have them delivered to the track. There is 110 at the track. There is also 110 at a convenience store in The Village that is cheaper. We do that. > I am looking into the Thursday Test/Tune and the date is listed on the RA website but nothing about cost and how to enter is posted yet. I emailed the track and will let all know what they say. I tried to get the cost, myself. They like to wait until the last minute. > > If we come in on Thursday will we be able to take advantage of the covered area for us Triumph folk? I take it there is power at this location and that they will try and get our rigs close to that area so we can get to our tires, tools and spares. > If you have reserved a spot in the garages, you will be able to use it. Power has been strung in the garages during the month of July. It was negotiated in our rental. We really want to leave a good margin on the two open sides of the garages as it will be necessary for access. There may be some inconvenience with the benefits of having a garage space. Jason will be the final authority on locating rigs, and we will be there on Thursday.....actually Wednesday afternoon. I hope to run the T & T Day myself. > Donbt mean to be a pest with all these questions, just a long haul to a very unfamiliar track, very much appreciate all your help. > I'd like to think we far more organized in the paddock than at the Mitty. And we are close to everything important, except the showers. Marty has name tags in his bag of tricks and we expect folks to get acquainted quickly, and be able to jump in and help each other. Joe Alexander > Thanks, Ken _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 8 10:43:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D8A42F2C for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 10:43:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CAC442D1E for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 10:43:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.5]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 88E48700000B6 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 12:43:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id C0F65E0000D0 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 12:43:40 -0400 (EDT) References: <000001ce9453$2f2a97c0$8d7fc740$@klaenv.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 11:43:40 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375980221; bh=7s2Diz5iVt5AIaiA8zKqKhrpq6XhfKKqYI13cr3HFcA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=G0p287cHjEO7H6rPQL4s/0eXnutnWE3uuMIVuy0rPim9era7NC9lf1oQWvy53IUK1 mMUkF81btzV/2a25UzC+uKNnMn9OKbL7FJv0KwnSGewat60SyloQXq67rzdUXlOJkR DX7mXGwVBxJmVKcpktCXri76qtbRz+VWKC5+cBY8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29055203cabc6ee4 Subject: Re: [Fot] Enduro Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The One Hour Enduros always have a mandatory pit stop and there are mandatory procedures that will be explained at the mandatory drivers meeting. I have felt that this is a nice feature, especially when fathers and sons share a car. We usually do not take speed or precise timing of the pit stop very seriously. Not much to be gained in flogging the car and tires during the enduro. Drivers Packets will contain a lot of information for you to digest. There is a lot of stuff wrapped up in this weekend. It's good to be organized in advance, like you are trying to do. Thanks! Joe A Sent from my iPad On Aug 8, 2013, at 11:20 AM, "Kenneth Knight" wrote: > Joe: > > Damn, forgot to ask about the Enduro. > > Is this a two driver deal? I only have an 8 gal cell, I donbt think I could run and hour without refueling at those speeds. Is there some kind of manditory pit stop? > > What is your thought, I am coming a very long way and donbt want to use my car or tires up before the big show on Sunday? My beast has been very reliable but hey it is a TR and things happen, to the car and on-track. > > Ken _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 8 11:36:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE954302F for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 11:36:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79DAC43021 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 11:35:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b%11]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 12:35:50 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: "fot@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: Spitfire single-rail trans - reverse shift?? Thread-Index: Ac6UXblbH/CoSBztTuGbx/0hSvxTWw== Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 17:35:49 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Subject: [Fot] Spitfire single-rail trans - reverse shift?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I am looking for some info on how to shift the Spitfire overdrive style single rail trans mission into reverse. Reverse is indicated on the shift know as being to the left of neutral and up toward first gear. However, I can't get the shift lever to move left out of the neutral position. If I push it as far left as it will go, moving it up gets me 1st gear. Do you have to push down on the shift lever, or pull up on it or twist it or say a prayer or what? My 4-speed, three-rail trans requires a push down on the lever to get over to reverse. Scott B. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 8 12:14:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B750B42B7B for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 12:14:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (fed1rmfepo201.cox.net [68.230.241.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFBED42799 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 12:12:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo109 ([68.230.241.158]) by fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130808181211.FEZN3849.fed1rmfepo201.cox.net@fed1rmimpo109> for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 14:12:11 -0400 Received: from fed1rmwml107 ([172.18.140.217]) by fed1rmimpo109 with cox id AJCB1m0084hdPEs01JCBJM; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 14:12:11 -0400 a=FeGHaL6DQC/GUx1TXTTH+Q==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=O9UFIoZC55wA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=-ofSt98-VJ0A:10 a=TpaKhWmfn2gi1N2id1IA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=FeGHaL6DQC/GUx1TXTTH+Q==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from 68.98.71.115 by webmail.west.cox.net; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 14:12:11 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 14:12:11 -0400 From: To: "fot@autox.team.net" Sensitivity: Normal Subject: [Fot] fiberglass gt-6 hood Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I don't know if anyone is interested, but I have a new fiberglass hood for early gt-6 that I would like to sell. I had started a project that have since abandoned, and no longer need the hood. I purchased a spitfire hood from Joe in L.A. and had my glass guy make a mold of the hood bubble on a gt-6 and he grafted it on the spit hood, it came out really nice. I am not interested in shipping it, but will be making a trip to left coast in Sept and could possibly arrange to meet for delivery. I have about 700 invested, will sell the hood and mold to duplicate bubble for 500. thanks _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 8 13:03:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D1E430B5 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 13:03:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m04.mx.aol.com (omr-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3459842F38 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 12:59:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.129]) by omr-m04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A91F870093E92 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 14:59:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.0.1.8] (ip70-189-93-232.ok.ok.cox.net [70.189.93.232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 1DDC5E0000CA for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 14:59:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Sam Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 13:58:58 -0500 References: To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375988340; bh=Ytn+66tzXggHsLpcNQi0mfm3dMFCyGIh7YHKzWALjXQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=MPL4NRMGqIdO5MOeUp2hPcvYA/gCM0D9cxrN/mixGIvkPQeWyZFWw8cwgyTMfbHOj MqOpmJQ5s07Ykj2KtDu1ZbvaEIRP2zV0dgcToWkLjKLh7M56ygnpRA6/GLgo2H5srB FU1ViztmaXe9N08e1yb0uiaVfZRqx6zi09JWQ1Ec= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33815203ea735845 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire single-rail trans-reverse shift?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I had something similar happen to me on my GT6 with a single rail. I took the car in to an upholstery shop for some work. Driving it home I soon realized that I only had reverse, first and second. I called the trim shop and turned around and went back. I told him that he was going to have to pull the tunnel to get to it. Evidently one or the guys that moved the car around ham-fisted it into reverse. Reverse is the shortest throw and all I can figure is that he tried to force it in. The rail where it meets the shifter got bent at the yoke. They pulled it out and straightened it and it works like a champ. YMMV Sam On Aug 8, 2013, at 1:00 PM, fot-request@autox.team.net wrote: > Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 17:35:49 +0000 > From: "Barr, Scott" > > > I am looking for some info on how to shift the Spitfire overdrive style single > rail trans mission into reverse. Reverse is indicated on the shift know as > being to the left of neutral and up toward first gear. However, I can't get > the shift lever to move left out of the neutral position. If I push it as far > left as it will go, moving it up gets me 1st gear. > > Do you have to push down on the shift lever, or pull up on it or twist it or > say a prayer or what? > > My 4-speed, three-rail trans requires a push down on the lever to get over to > reverse. > > Scott B. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 8 13:04:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF251430DD for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 13:04:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail168c2.megamailservers.com (mail168c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E0B42F44 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 13:01:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.237.6.80] (35.sub-174-254-150.myvzw.com [174.254.150.35]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail168c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r78J1JUM009357 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 8 Aug 2013 15:01:22 -0400 References: <20130807172064.SM2006516@IMAIL12> <00827F77-62F4-4919-8F86-05139240D740@cs.com> <8D061F0BDC3DC50-1B58-AD76@webmail-m152.sysops.aol.com> <2EDE5F75-123A-4EA2-8E37-69060DAC24FC@gdhs.com> <7F54BD8A-AA51-487E-BF56-61BEC16F6C58@cs.com> From: John Hasty Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 15:01:17 -0400 To: Joe Alexander a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=VgVueo5zwkEfBl5RHz1EUg==:17 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=OWKKUO1RAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=eMs-hk1NLp_C6HZ69TQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=B5qyVqv55jEA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=ub8yugX0F2kA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=7kCX84TN_rQA:10 a=VgVueo5zwkEfBl5RHz1EUg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Dyno Results Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe. Please pass on to Mike Jim Steck 937 477 5673 Jim@autocomponent. Com Sent from my iPhone On Aug 8, 2013, at 9:13 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Once again, what a great list. > > I have invited Mike to join the FOT list. If it suits him, he may accept. > > I believe his effort is more to commemorate and honor the Triumph on the 60th Anniversary of the Jabbeke Run. > > At 4500 feet it might be difficult to match the speed, but does it really matter? > > Thanks..... > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 8, 2013, at 7:57 AM, John Hasty wrote: > >> Mike. I know Jim Stecht (sp) who built and drove the record holding Alfa on >> the flats. Bet he will probably be there. He is the one you should talk to. >> I'll get his # tomorrow and send it along. >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 7, 2013, at 9:50 PM, robertten1@aol.com wrote: >> >>> Mike, >>> >>> May all your runs be TRiumphant ones !! >>> >>> A prayer for the Salt, >>> Bob T >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Joe Alexander >>> To: fot >>> Cc: Seth Mcgee >>> Sent: Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:33 pm >>> Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Dyno Results >>> >>> >>> List, >>> Mike is getting his TR3A ready for Bonneville. >>> Engine is prepared to street specs per Kastner's book. >>> But it is fitted like the TR2 for the Jabbeke Trials.... >>> Spats, Belly Pan, Hard Tonneau, Brooklands Screen, etc. >>> Does anyone have any words of wisdom for Mike? >>> This is a private grassroots effort. Our kind of guy, really. >>> Seems like it might be fun to get behind this and have visibility to the >>> esults. >>> Thanks everyone. >>> Sent from my iPad >>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> From: "Seth Mcgee" >>> Date: August 7, 2013, 5:20:33 PM CDT >>> To: n197tr4@cs.com >>> Subject: Dyno Results >>> >>> Joe, >>> >>> I had the car dyno tuned today. Results are in the attached chart. The car >>> eemed to perform OK except it has a drop off of power at 4500 rpm. The >> chart >>> oes not show it but power recovers but at a lower value after 4500 rpm. The >>> yno people thought it was the spark plug wires which are new from Moss >>> otors; however, if you touch the wires at the plug/wire interface you get a >>> ig shock which should not happen. >>> >>> Based on your TR experience, could bad wires cause the abrupt drop off of >>> ower at 4500 rpm and what is a good brand of wires to buy? >>> >>> I used the NGK BP8HS plugs for the test. >>> ______________________________________________ >>> ot@autox.team.net >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> rchive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> orums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> nsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1@aol.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 8 13:04:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E25430E9 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 13:04:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail168c2.megamailservers.com (mail168c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B1542F44 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 13:02:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.237.6.80] (35.sub-174-254-150.myvzw.com [174.254.150.35]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail168c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r78J2Ctg011607 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 8 Aug 2013 15:02:14 -0400 References: <20130807172064.SM2006516@IMAIL12> <00827F77-62F4-4919-8F86-05139240D740@cs.com> <8D061F0BDC3DC50-1B58-AD76@webmail-m152.sysops.aol.com> <2EDE5F75-123A-4EA2-8E37-69060DAC24FC@gdhs.com> <7F54BD8A-AA51-487E-BF56-61BEC16F6C58@cs.com> From: John Hasty Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 15:02:11 -0400 To: Joe Alexander a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=VgVueo5zwkEfBl5RHz1EUg==:17 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=OWKKUO1RAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=eMs-hk1NLp_C6HZ69TQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=7kCX84TN_rQA:10 a=VgVueo5zwkEfBl5RHz1EUg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Dyno Results Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net PS tell him he is free to tell Jim I told him to call Sent from my iPhone On Aug 8, 2013, at 9:13 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Once again, what a great list. > > I have invited Mike to join the FOT list. If it suits him, he may accept. > > I believe his effort is more to commemorate and honor the Triumph on the 60th Anniversary of the Jabbeke Run. > > At 4500 feet it might be difficult to match the speed, but does it really matter? > > Thanks..... > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 8, 2013, at 7:57 AM, John Hasty wrote: > >> Mike. I know Jim Stecht (sp) who built and drove the record holding Alfa on >> the flats. Bet he will probably be there. He is the one you should talk to. >> I'll get his # tomorrow and send it along. >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 7, 2013, at 9:50 PM, robertten1@aol.com wrote: >> >>> Mike, >>> >>> May all your runs be TRiumphant ones !! >>> >>> A prayer for the Salt, >>> Bob T >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Joe Alexander >>> To: fot >>> Cc: Seth Mcgee >>> Sent: Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:33 pm >>> Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Dyno Results >>> >>> >>> List, >>> Mike is getting his TR3A ready for Bonneville. >>> Engine is prepared to street specs per Kastner's book. >>> But it is fitted like the TR2 for the Jabbeke Trials.... >>> Spats, Belly Pan, Hard Tonneau, Brooklands Screen, etc. >>> Does anyone have any words of wisdom for Mike? >>> This is a private grassroots effort. Our kind of guy, really. >>> Seems like it might be fun to get behind this and have visibility to the >>> esults. >>> Thanks everyone. >>> Sent from my iPad >>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> From: "Seth Mcgee" >>> Date: August 7, 2013, 5:20:33 PM CDT >>> To: n197tr4@cs.com >>> Subject: Dyno Results >>> >>> Joe, >>> >>> I had the car dyno tuned today. Results are in the attached chart. The car >>> eemed to perform OK except it has a drop off of power at 4500 rpm. The >> chart >>> oes not show it but power recovers but at a lower value after 4500 rpm. The >>> yno people thought it was the spark plug wires which are new from Moss >>> otors; however, if you touch the wires at the plug/wire interface you get a >>> ig shock which should not happen. >>> >>> Based on your TR experience, could bad wires cause the abrupt drop off of >>> ower at 4500 rpm and what is a good brand of wires to buy? >>> >>> I used the NGK BP8HS plugs for the test. >>> ______________________________________________ >>> ot@autox.team.net >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> rchive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> orums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> nsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1@aol.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 8 13:07:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 884CE430F4 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 13:07:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com (omr-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E09140E1C for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 13:06:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.138]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6D2FC700CC9D1 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 15:06:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mta005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mta005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.145]) by mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 437C4E000081; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 15:06:57 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 15:06:57 -0400 (EDT) To: n197tr4@cs.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375988817; bh=a4eQu+25z8NXuJ7AFxWRN+vo4wBJReMSNTAD0T51b3I=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ub02pR8Pf2wwV4xCrUBQAC5DPF0QqGi4NMNM3DrUIzVbGWGpyB+hCGOj3QJBtiNuV KxxCAZOBg5AlcjxaN7e6JQF9S3SvNBEG/MnJaFYA2rByXvDmbFlfqUJz/CSMpw1dJO 68VPLgC6a4YoKZiL4zPxvpnWGN3rSrtLAw7aDLuo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338a5203ec514637 Subject: Re: [Fot] ELVF. FAQ? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 08/08/2013 11:34:00 AM Central Daylight Time, n197tr4@cs.com writes: > I'd like to think we far more organized in the paddock than at the Mitty. > And > we are close to everything important, except the showers. Boy, I have to think that's a potential issue. We are, after all, racing the sportscars of the Great Unwashed. That suggests to me that showers might be of critical importance at some point during the week end. Bill (Damdinger) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 8 14:51:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB034430BB for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 14:51:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.o2.co.uk (yoda.london.02.net [82.132.130.151]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D120042FDF for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 14:49:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.26.139.90] (82.132.232.222) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.5.140.03) id 51DA924705FD0355; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 21:49:02 +0100 References: <10b9e8.2dcc1fc5.3f354651@aol.com> From: TR4 Tony Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 21:48:22 +0100 To: "BillDentin@aol.com" Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] ELVF. FAQ? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Who are you calling Great ?! Anyway, the rally fraternity love the dirt .... So lets not go washing too hastily either .... Sent from my iPhone On 8 Aug 2013, at 20:06, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 08/08/2013 11:34:00 AM Central Daylight Time, > n197tr4@cs.com writes: > > >> I'd like to think we far more organized in the paddock than at the Mitty. >> And >> we are close to everything important, except the showers. > > Boy, I have to think that's a potential issue. We are, after all, racing > the sportscars of the Great Unwashed. That suggests to me that showers might > be of critical importance at some point during the week end. > > Bill (Damdinger) > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 8 15:25:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B317042F93 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 15:25:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A973430DD for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 15:22:59 -0600 (MDT) a=GY3qpzaqjAnTJxGPJo7Cpg==:17 a=t2QnnntYVAkA:10 a=urCLZjPpUMEA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=_ovHKqprh9IA:10 a=5UOi6305AAAA:8 a=MJIo3LPEAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=PR39M0KvM4UGH8uNP2YA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=JxUwT-Vfht4A:10 a=IeVFYImMg6QA:10 a=BEgTsAFckkn0PKIR:21 a=dUrDI_J-ah8ZpXsv:21 a=VQtjWtbMHwkc4vDnIZUA:9 a=KQqxNPgzF0kA:10 a=ucH7BwLj_I8A:10 a=WWTkbekcSmdIVWCV:18 a=GY3qpzaqjAnTJxGPJo7Cpg==:117 Received: from [76.84.97.85] ([76.84.97.85:3691] helo=guinanhp) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id C2/09-18468-13C04025; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 21:22:57 +0000 From: "Joe Guinan" To: , References: Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 16:27:12 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac6UYYtKCFa6e94lTlSToa36prEQhgAGpI6g Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire single-rail trans - reverse shift Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Scott, The late single rail trans shift pattern is odd - push out to the right and pull UP on the shift knob to get reverse. Of course, this is the same whether the OD is fitted or not. Maybe you have the wrong shift knob? SpitBits has a photo of the correct knob at http://spitbits.com/1500/1500gearboxexterior75-80.htm - item # 13, click on the number to pull up the photo. The small photo attached won't go through the list but should be viewable to Scott. Looking forward to seeing everyone at RA! Joe Guinan Fremont, NE ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 17:35:49 +0000 From: "Barr, Scott" To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] Spitfire single-rail trans - reverse shift?? Message-ID: <82BFCF3631841845BADD37BD9FE7EA73203DFC50@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> I am looking for some info on how to shift the Spitfire overdrive style single rail trans mission into reverse. Reverse is indicated on the shift know as being to the left of neutral and up toward first gear. However, I can't get the shift lever to move left out of the neutral position. If I push it as far left as it will go, moving it up gets me 1st gear. Do you have to push down on the shift lever, or pull up on it or twist it or say a prayer or what? My 4-speed, three-rail trans requires a push down on the lever to get over to reverse. Scott B. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Fot mailing list Fot@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot End of Fot Digest, Vol 81, Issue 15 *********************************** [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of OD Shift Knob.jpg] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 8 17:29:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7978843214 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 17:29:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail168c2.megamailservers.com (mail168c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D988430AE for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 17:29:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.237.6.80] (35.sub-174-254-150.myvzw.com [174.254.150.35]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail168c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r78NSxYM010293 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 8 Aug 2013 19:29:01 -0400 References: <004401ce947e$0c3b8320$24b28960$@rr.com> From: John Hasty Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 19:28:58 -0400 To: Joe Guinan a=ruykFIVH6wcA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=VgVueo5zwkEfBl5RHz1EUg==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=5UOi6305AAAA:8 a=MJIo3LPEAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=uSlRVosYiwfgMVqzd5MA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=JxUwT-Vfht4A:10 a=IeVFYImMg6QA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=yj0157wZnW3eydKV:21 a=hacno3zgdhgSvH2T:21 a=VgVueo5zwkEfBl5RHz1EUg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire single-rail trans - reverse shift Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Same as T R 3. For about a year I didn't know you were supposed to pull up; so brute force was applied. Fortunately I did not round off the gate. Not too often you put a race car in reverse. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 8, 2013, at 5:27 PM, "Joe Guinan" wrote: > Scott, > > The late single rail trans shift pattern is odd - push out to the right and > pull UP on the shift knob to get reverse. Of course, this is the same > whether the OD is fitted or not. Maybe you have the wrong shift knob? > SpitBits has a photo of the correct knob at > http://spitbits.com/1500/1500gearboxexterior75-80.htm - item # 13, click on > the number to pull up the photo. The small photo attached won't go through > the list but should be viewable to Scott. > > > Looking forward to seeing everyone at RA! > > Joe Guinan > Fremont, NE > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 17:35:49 +0000 > From: "Barr, Scott" > To: "fot@autox.team.net" > Subject: [Fot] Spitfire single-rail trans - reverse shift?? > Message-ID: > > <82BFCF3631841845BADD37BD9FE7EA73203DFC50@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I am looking for some info on how to shift the Spitfire overdrive style > single > rail trans mission into reverse. Reverse is indicated on the shift know as > being to the left of neutral and up toward first gear. However, I can't get > the shift lever to move left out of the neutral position. If I push it as > far left as it will go, moving it up gets me 1st gear. > > Do you have to push down on the shift lever, or pull up on it or twist it or > say a prayer or what? > > My 4-speed, three-rail trans requires a push down on the lever to get over > to reverse. > > Scott B. > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fot mailing list > Fot@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot > > > End of Fot Digest, Vol 81, Issue 15 > *********************************** > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of OD Shift Knob.jpg] > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 8 19:46:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4568E42B80 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 19:46:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f178.google.com (mail-ob0-f178.google.com [209.85.214.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 815EA40E30 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 19:46:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f178.google.com with SMTP id ef5so5876089obb.37 for ; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 18:46:33 -0700 (PDT) h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=DsTLevNtgtCIKyY0kiKBxQI59pl/QDxsfWHWtp8fPAQ=; b=lR5aYZaXhWmiQcHKiKDYE6otku4GohM3TwkWWV0MqAILynuljFC/RtuHgzFd93xnUU 0TJb4txPSQBNk2/jgrOW0HOLIWTHbodri5ByFFVdAmUIS5ZmuV7W2QlcbCV1kZP0HfI4 cmc7p+PPlD+uVmkgSfFuWmILk8PbC9+di1h7Ha6h4OdVGSBsd0QkldGQj1FwEOHaMy1a DpPZtVxeSrkdzt5BSzyITiCEQkZ1im9Nb+1YwgFmLfnrVU4LDk3LY0B8c4Re8K8xw2gW Q25DEnwPydMLj/Q5lC3P7y1y4NRRUBH0cOdTqxYEQCJm8hyTTHjTrW3CttwD9S+peqwU aZEw== dt2mr1418858obc.30.1376012792950; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 18:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.7] (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id n2sm16710469obo.6.2013.08.08.18.46.29 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 08 Aug 2013 18:46:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 20:46:27 -0500 References: <20130807172064.SM2006516@IMAIL12> <00827F77-62F4-4919-8F86-05139240D740@cs.com> <8D061F0BDC3DC50-1B58-AD76@webmail-m152.sysops.aol.com> <2EDE5F75-123A-4EA2-8E37-69060DAC24FC@gdhs.com> <7F54BD8A-AA51-487E-BF56-61BEC16F6C58@cs.com> <86B00F5A-BDBA-4C38-9879-A6091C189B31@gdhs.com> To: John Hasty Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Dyno Results Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net There's the traction issue with the salt, too. The guys there said to expect 11-12% loss due to slippage. Duncan (Texas) >> > >> At 4500 feet it might be difficult to match the speed, but does it really > matter? >> >> Thanks..... >> >> >>> Mike. I know Jim Stecht (sp) who built and drove the record holding Alfa > on >>> the flats. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 8 21:48:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C5043500 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 21:48:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f49.google.com (mail-qa0-f49.google.com [209.85.216.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E83743172 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 21:48:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f49.google.com with SMTP id cr7so703675qab.8 for ; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 20:48:40 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=5QGbW5ktL1rs6VxEFaGVA9JOR51WRTKHGIVmEdJkqf4=; b=J5PXB2bJ92LFlWoKEj/4qaO2i4A2KjCcEaqYRCb9LE1hKB8/TBfQTpVKKrrvGldcPh UD6z0abUS8P7eKxaj44F7ERiAfDm5C0YwuszWkPdb3i2PxgZ2o/aMTf0+0G7cerRaP+v 21JZLM+pD+N6lMwynufXtqNxb9To7T+Uo9wi0EnoRVfj5P/QKWWYNiAvOjes3JV/Fhfr Ee6Xtq0J357AjQ+Ftc1gwdCHJES4dkXrMEZtRVkuWcMIB3GzDv7XFAUSVn02pZaCmjvu JkJCDZgTqnmVW0Fw0ZCyimVx4Ojh3GLYd89D9S6CZuvTj+ocUOvKPQpmFEdHthq/eBwM j3dg== c4mr9015678qai.101.1376020120242; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 20:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.128.65 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 20:47:59 -0700 (PDT) References: <20130807172064.SM2006516@IMAIL12> <00827F77-62F4-4919-8F86-05139240D740@cs.com> <8D061F0BDC3DC50-1B58-AD76@webmail-m152.sysops.aol.com> <2EDE5F75-123A-4EA2-8E37-69060DAC24FC@gdhs.com> <7F54BD8A-AA51-487E-BF56-61BEC16F6C58@cs.com> <86B00F5A-BDBA-4C38-9879-A6091C189B31@gdhs.com> From: Kas Kastner Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 20:47:59 -0700 To: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Dyno Results Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We did 128+ back in 1966 with a TR-4 and it was tough going. the one thing I did was shave the sides off the tires so there was very little in contact with the salt and traction was never a problem as there is a long way to wind that devil up before you hit the lights for time. *Never be beaten by equipment.* On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Duncan Charlton wrote: > There's the traction issue with the salt, too. The guys there said to > expect > 11-12% loss due to slippage. > > Duncan > (Texas) > > > >> > > >> At 4500 feet it might be difficult to match the speed, but does it > really > > matter? > >> > >> Thanks..... > >> > >> > >>> Mike. I know Jim Stecht (sp) who built and drove the record holding > Alfa > > on > >>> the flats. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 9 07:58:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0409A43581 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 07:58:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta41.charter.net (mta41.charter.net [216.33.127.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0A94354B for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 07:57:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130809135713.YETR10143.mta41.charter.net@imp10>; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 09:57:13 -0400 Received: from wt03 ([209.225.8.43]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id AdxD1m00U0vicD505dxDgJ; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 09:57:13 -0400 a=9okyDgZqp55Pkq91s0rumA==:17 a=GcBDC4MYXWAA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=N3TdVP57p6IA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=DyMgSWZyTC8Hl-Qsdr8A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=9okyDgZqp55Pkq91s0rumA==:117 Received: from [71.10.64.126] by enhanced.charter.net with HTTP; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 09:57:13 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 09:57:13 -0400 (EDT) From: jkhagen@charter.net To: Kas Kastner User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Dyno Results Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A good source of information could come from Dean Johnson [Spitfire national champ]--I think still holds Bonneville record in Spitfire at 153 MPH. John Hagen On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Kas Kastner wrote: > We did 128+ back in 1966 with a TR-4 and it was tough going. the one > thing > I did was shave the sides off the tires so there was very little in > contact > with the salt and traction was never a problem as there is a long way > to > wind that devil up before you hit the lights for time. > > *Never be beaten by equipment.* > > > On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Duncan Charlton > > wrote: > >> There's the traction issue with the salt, too. The guys there said >> to >> expect >> 11-12% loss due to slippage. >> >> Duncan >> (Texas) >> >> >>>>> >>>> At 4500 feet it might be difficult to match the speed, but does it >> really >>> matter? >>>> >>>> Thanks..... >>>> >>>> >>>>> Mike. I know Jim Stecht (sp) who built and drove the record >>>>> holding >> Alfa >>> on >>>>> the flats. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 9 07:58:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83B7435A0 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 07:58:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail175c2.megamailservers.com (mail175c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6EE643529 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 07:57:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail175c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r79Dv5cc008498 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 09:57:11 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 09:57:04 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6UZmfWwFcUW14WSRCqJpMFryMPfgAocGog a=3VLIEWzbzd0A:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=PngXOgYrAAAA:8 a=xFq2p_ihlNVUeBAJ8AEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Mjd91Zj2-kYA:10 a=P0NHtkkq71UA:10 a=pWteIG7Ggk0A:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=EczhKQBgJ5QA:10 a=UISgLi3Kz2a8t6DQF4sA:9 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=U9oz8HxGMeQ0X71G:21 a=kLvH-wUBCMrgIKOBWlkA:9 a=n3BslyFRqc0A:10 a=0z0WNPzlPiAA:10 a=Sf_gFPzhefAA:10 a=iZ1WRYjHMGTwRHOd:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: [Fot] FW: Trans Am Series Official Communication: VIR, Changes to Oak Tree Turn Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net For all that drive VIR....attached is a notice regarding changes at the Oak Tree turn from TransAm that John sent me. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. _____ From: John Baucom [mailto:baucommotorsports@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 2:38 PM To: Ceasar Cone; John Hasty Subject: Fwd: Trans Am Series Official Communication: VIR, Changes to Oak Tree Turn John Baucom Baucom Motorsports baucommotorsports@gmail.com 704-574-1104 Begin forwarded message: From: John Clagett To: "jclagett@gotransam.com" Subject: Trans Am Series Official Communication: VIR, Changes to Oak Tree Turn To: Trans Am Series Participants From: Trans Am Series Management Re: Trans Am Series Official Communication: VIR, Changes to Oak Tree Turn Date: Thursday, Aug. 8, 2013 Due to the unfortunate event of VIR's Mighty Oak falling down, VIR has made some changes to the Oak Tree Turn, revealed in the attached PDF. John Clagett President The Trans Am Race Company, LLC P.O. Box 560561 Miami, FL 33256-0561 office: 305.259.2959 mobile: 305-519.8093 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of VIR Changes brought by Oak Tree.pdf] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 9 10:17:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D52E435BD for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 10:17:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f42.google.com (mail-oa0-f42.google.com [209.85.219.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 703D1435A4 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 10:16:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id i18so7170342oag.1 for ; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 09:16:08 -0700 (PDT) h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=lyBnIyYP02YRkfmFvVuTuATza76WF64i2oNMV3UGnag=; b=DQH/CV1aK78biMvZfWWHfqZZQ8LXaewcP7z/uM4fHB2jTg+3kzERq2Tyyp/3u1qVhu 9wkwmNs068TinlsPif/Cxb0hnqkCqNO5mL7kx+d42DV/E9NmZskShm0bw+1F1/URsJ7h sK/f7WQDf0LrJVQsDQ2tt02BpjYKxcAB8vdAmxf289OJayWm14+xLZhFORM5c0acEH9Z qxiVk7Fd2xJTXuKKXNSjfcJ0dV3eAxL3FwCM1S7el7HBOLkwDAZV12yN1tJ312f/3gOE zF5FOxD7zRSXJ6jorbFyNkruIF7rPPtUY6VYbOSGpL6AMZn/WoNQInSkrjRnnLR2o7Av n03Q== wm11mr1047665obc.26.1376064968153; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 09:16:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.7] (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id j7sm19807863oew.5.2013.08.09.09.16.06 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 09 Aug 2013 09:16:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 10:39:06 -0500 References: <20130807172064.SM2006516@IMAIL12> <00827F77-62F4-4919-8F86-05139240D740@cs.com> <8D061F0BDC3DC50-1B58-AD76@webmail-m152.sysops.aol.com> <2EDE5F75-123A-4EA2-8E37-69060DAC24FC@gdhs.com> <7F54BD8A-AA51-487E-BF56-61BEC16F6C58@cs.com> <86B00F5A-BDBA-4C38-9879-A6091C189B31@gdhs.com> To: Kas Kastner Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Dyno Results Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sounds like you created the equivalent to the solution that most successful salt flat runners use, which is a narrow tire with a rounded profile. I found an interesting short article regarding traction on the salt flats on one of the USFRA web pages: saltflats (dot) com (forward slash) traction.html . I certainly didn't see any drag starts at the starting line and many drivers started in second gear, even in the air-cooled VWs, allowing them to use more throttle for longer. Duncan On Aug 8, 2013, at 10:47 PM, Kas Kastner wrote: > We did 128+ back in 1966 with a TR-4 and it was tough going. the one thing > I did was shave the sides off the tires so there was very little in contact > with the salt and traction was never a problem as there is a long way to > wind that devil up before you hit the lights for time. > > *Never be beaten by equipment.* > > > On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Duncan Charlton > wrote: > >> There's the traction issue with the salt, too. The guys there said to >> expect >> 11-12% loss due to slippage. >> >> Duncan >> (Texas) >> >> >>>>> >>>> At 4500 feet it might be difficult to match the speed, but does it >> really >>> matter? >>>> >>>> Thanks..... >>>> >>>> >>>>> Mike. I know Jim Stecht (sp) who built and drove the record holding >> Alfa >>> on >>>>> the flats. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 9 14:41:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1D04377E for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 14:40:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DCF94370C for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 14:36:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.0.0.4] ([64.223.228.171]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.07(7.0.4.27.6) 64bit (built Jun 21 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0MRA00NZ36KY0280@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 20:36:37 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-08-09_08:2013-08-09,2013-08-09,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1308090184 From: Scott Janzen Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 16:36:33 -0400 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Manifold studs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm trying to find studs to replace the bolts currently in use on my GT6 for the intake and exhaust manifolds. I would guess TR6 and Spit stuff is the same - they are 3/8-24 and 5/16-24 in the block, need to be about 1-1/2" (-) long. Ideally, I would like fine threads on both ends - have not found any set up that way. Anyone found a good source or figured out if ARP sells the appropriate size? The flanges on my aftermarket header/Triumphtune intake are about 3/8" thick. Optimally, these would have an unthreaded shoulder about that long and equal threaded lengths on both ends. Lost cause? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 9 19:51:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4CC4384A for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 19:51:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from sitemail.siteprotect.com (sitemail.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.155]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF1943671 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 19:45:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by app05.sm.onr.chicago.hostway (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4001020493; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 20:45:10 -0500 (CDT) To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph , "Scott Janzen" Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 20:45:10 -0500 From: Charly Subject: Re: [Fot] Manifold studs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }Have you seen these? http://www.bpnorthwest.com/manifold-stud-and-bolt-set-6-cylinder.html [1] or Part # Description Qty Price Item SubtotalBackorder OK? 310-260 NUT, brass $0.95 $9.50 Yes Add to Wishlist Remove 328-650 STUD, manifold clamps $1.95 $11.70 Yes Add to Wishlist Remove 328-656 STUD, intake manifold $2.95 $8.85 Yes Add to Wishlist Remove 328-654 STUD, intake manifold $1.95 $5.85 Yes Add to Wishlist Remove 328-660 STUD, exhaust manifold, upper $1.25 $5.00 Yes Add to Wishlist Remove 310-360 NUT, exhaust flange, brass $1.15 $1.15 Yes Add to Wishlist Remove 328-715 STUD, exhaust flange $1.95 $1.95 Yes Add to Wishlist Remove Subtotal: $44.00 No To All Add All Remove All I have used these for my TR6 Header and PI throttle bodies Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 On Fri 09/08/13 1:36 PM , Scott Janzen sjanzen@me.com sent: I'm trying to find studs to replace the bolts currently in use on my GT6 for the intake and exhaust manifolds. I would guess TR6 and Spit stuff is the same - they are 3/8-24 and 5/16-24 in the block, need to be about 1-1/2" (-) long. Ideally, I would like fine threads on both ends - have not found any set up that way. Anyone found a good source or figured out if ARP sells the appropriate size? The flanges on my aftermarket header/Triumphtune intake are about 3/8" thick. Optimally, these would have an unthreaded shoulder about that long and equal threaded lengths on both ends. Lost cause? _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com [3] Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html [4] Archive: http://www.team.net/archive [5] Forums: http://www.team.net/forums [6] Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ [7] Links: ------ [1] http://www.bpnorthwest.com/manifold-stud-and-bolt-set-6-cylinder.html [3] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fot-racing .com [4] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Fdonate.html [5] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Farchive [6] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Fforums [7] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net %2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Ffot%2Fcharly%40mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 10 08:58:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A46543795 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 08:58:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d07.mx.aol.com (omr-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCFFD43572 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 08:56:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by omr-d07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E97FA70000083 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:56:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtb003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtb003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.201]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id B3275E000088 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:56:57 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net From: billdentin@aol.com Received: from 70.194.75.191 by webmail-m235.sysops.aol.com (64.12.107.173) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:56:57 -0400 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:56:57 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1376146617; bh=N/PDn24ug1Wc1//n7IyxwFTGrTXJ9Jk42sSiX3hzCEM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=izVoHgUsWn182vNxZcO1928r7Tqhvz53IAwhcimMoBhQS6J75zVFfLMtB9t9TJfXB QIoa2PO3xqH1vCav50k3ZCsg6lyZlZgpBEGmZCcekUd+YeSBshiuiqLpBsGro/eb7g xqgrZ3NZ8xHyjnLYlF+Z5UlGb3LkcST7klIvKUvo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2948520654b91092 Subject: [Fot] 27th Vintage Grand Prix au Grattan... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici... Next week end Tony Drews (TR4), Tim & Ryan Murphy (TR4), and I (TR3) will all be representing TEAM TRACTOR at the 27th annual Vintage Grand Prix au Grattan, Grattan Raceway, Grattan, Michigan. I have run all twenty-seven of these events, and made several other trips to Grattan Raceway as well. While I pretty much like them all...Grattan is my favorite race track. It is the right size for our cars. It has a long front straight where your car should be able to get going about as fast as it can go, followed by a tricky, twisty, roller coaster backside that requires 100% of your attention. We'll be paddocked in the upper competition paddock ( garages #8, #9, and #10 all weekend. Fancy, huh? One more thing: one of the highlights of this August event at Grattan is that this tract is in the heart of the Western Michigan fruit country. When most folks think of peaches, they thinki of California or Georgia, but Michigan has fantastic peaches, and they are ripe and for sale at fruit stands now (also apples, blue berries, etc.). There is a night and day difference between these tree ripened peaches and what you can get at your local produce market. We always bring home a bushel to share with friends and neighbors. Twenty eight years ago, when we first started racing Grattan Raceway, we made up our mind that when we stopped racing, we'll still keep coming for the peaches. For those with any curious interests, my close racing friend and fellow FOTer, Jeff Snook has been brokered to sell my nice TR4 street car. Its first eBay auction was unsuccessful, and a second auction started yesterday afternoon. It is item number 261261907989, and a link to it is: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261261907989&s sPageName=ADME:L:LCA:MOTORS:1123#ht_36241wt_958 It actually may have come close to selling the first time around, as one of the bidders contacted Jeff after the auction claiming a last second bid close to our reserve price was not recognized. We'll probably get to see if he was serious later on in this auction. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 10 09:45:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7997843C9F for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:45:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail202c2.megamailservers.com (mail202c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C9E8403F9 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:35:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.248.227.75] (25.sub-174-237-35.myvzw.com [174.237.35.25]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail202c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r7AFYuGr011153 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 10 Aug 2013 11:34:59 -0400 References: <8D063F0FE96F418-47C-128D7@webmail-m235.sysops.aol.com> From: John Hasty Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 11:34:54 -0400 To: "billdentin@aol.com" a=YbcI6qkc4LEA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=3m+CuQTOl9QjUIVI6JPCnQ==:17 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=pjdaNNIBAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=MqVRP04wKa_xq23dT3wA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=3m+CuQTOl9QjUIVI6JPCnQ==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] 27th Vintage Grand Prix au Grattan... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Just a note on peaches & G Sent from my iPhone On Aug 10, 2013, at 10:56 AM, billdentin@aol.com wrote: > Amici... > > Next week end Tony Drews (TR4), Tim & Ryan Murphy (TR4), and I (TR3) will all > be representing TEAM TRACTOR at the 27th annual Vintage Grand Prix au Grattan, > Grattan Raceway, Grattan, Michigan. I have run all twenty-seven of these > events, and made several other trips to Grattan Raceway as well. While I > pretty much like them all...Grattan is my favorite race track. It is the > right size for our cars. It has a long front straight where your car should > be able to get going about as fast as it can go, followed by a tricky, twisty, > roller coaster backside that requires 100% of your attention. We'll be > paddocked in the upper competition paddock ( garages #8, #9, and #10 all > weekend. Fancy, huh? > > One more thing: one of the highlights of this August event at Grattan is that > this tract is in the heart of the Western Michigan fruit country. When most > folks think of peaches, they thinki of California or Georgia, but Michigan has > fantastic peaches, and they are ripe and for sale at fruit stands now (also > apples, blue berries, etc.). There is a night and day difference between > these tree ripened peaches and what you can get at your local produce market. > We always bring home a bushel to share with friends and neighbors. Twenty > eight years ago, when we first started racing Grattan Raceway, we made up our > mind that when we stopped racing, we'll still keep coming for the peaches. > > > For those with any curious interests, my close racing friend and fellow FOTer, > Jeff Snook has been brokered to sell my nice TR4 street car. Its first eBay > auction was unsuccessful, and a second auction started yesterday afternoon. > It is item number 261261907989, and a link to it is: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261261907989&s > sPageName=ADME:L:LCA:MOTORS:1123#ht_36241wt_958 > > > It actually may have come close to selling the first time around, as one of > the bidders contacted Jeff after the auction claiming a last second bid close > to our reserve price was not recognized. We'll probably get to see if he was > serious later on in this auction. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 10 09:46:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D77A43D11 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:46:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail202c2.megamailservers.com (mail202c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB0343C9D for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:36:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.248.227.75] (25.sub-174-237-35.myvzw.com [174.237.35.25]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail202c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r7AFZsqs012920 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 10 Aug 2013 11:35:57 -0400 References: <8D063F0FE96F418-47C-128D7@webmail-m235.sysops.aol.com> From: John Hasty Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 11:35:51 -0400 To: "billdentin@aol.com" a=YbcI6qkc4LEA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=3m+CuQTOl9QjUIVI6JPCnQ==:17 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=pjdaNNIBAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=MqVRP04wKa_xq23dT3wA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=3m+CuQTOl9QjUIVI6JPCnQ==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] 27th Vintage Grand Prix au Grattan... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Oops. One county in S. C. Grows more peach Sent from my iPhone On Aug 10, 2013, at 10:56 AM, billdentin@aol.com wrote: > Amici... > > Next week end Tony Drews (TR4), Tim & Ryan Murphy (TR4), and I (TR3) will all > be representing TEAM TRACTOR at the 27th annual Vintage Grand Prix au Grattan, > Grattan Raceway, Grattan, Michigan. I have run all twenty-seven of these > events, and made several other trips to Grattan Raceway as well. While I > pretty much like them all...Grattan is my favorite race track. It is the > right size for our cars. It has a long front straight where your car should > be able to get going about as fast as it can go, followed by a tricky, twisty, > roller coaster backside that requires 100% of your attention. We'll be > paddocked in the upper competition paddock ( garages #8, #9, and #10 all > weekend. Fancy, huh? > > One more thing: one of the highlights of this August event at Grattan is that > this tract is in the heart of the Western Michigan fruit country. When most > folks think of peaches, they thinki of California or Georgia, but Michigan has > fantastic peaches, and they are ripe and for sale at fruit stands now (also > apples, blue berries, etc.). There is a night and day difference between > these tree ripened peaches and what you can get at your local produce market. > We always bring home a bushel to share with friends and neighbors. Twenty > eight years ago, when we first started racing Grattan Raceway, we made up our > mind that when we stopped racing, we'll still keep coming for the peaches. > > > For those with any curious interests, my close racing friend and fellow FOTer, > Jeff Snook has been brokered to sell my nice TR4 street car. Its first eBay > auction was unsuccessful, and a second auction started yesterday afternoon. > It is item number 261261907989, and a link to it is: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261261907989&s > sPageName=ADME:L:LCA:MOTORS:1123#ht_36241wt_958 > > > It actually may have come close to selling the first time around, as one of > the bidders contacted Jeff after the auction claiming a last second bid close > to our reserve price was not recognized. We'll probably get to see if he was > serious later on in this auction. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 10 15:09:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6430843D4E for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 15:09:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91EBC40075 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 14:54:28 -0600 (MDT) a=GY3qpzaqjAnTJxGPJo7Cpg==:17 a=t2QnnntYVAkA:10 a=orYUvidUUBEA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=DFgi3yt4-zMA:10 a=5fl75BJvM9x_0RoGM9EA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MCx6O_YGnmQA:10 a=9Q_dqgFLiCgA:10 a=GY3qpzaqjAnTJxGPJo7Cpg==:117 Received: from [76.84.97.85] ([76.84.97.85:1222] helo=guinanhp) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id E7/DB-02415-388A6025; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 20:54:27 +0000 From: "Joe Guinan" To: References: Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 15:58:10 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac6V9JEk/LWfRFLTQDCFzZPRUgIy7AAFux5Q Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] FOT with RMVR at MPH in NE in AUG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In English, are any of the Friends of Triumph attending the Rocky Mountain Vintage Racing event at Motorsport Park Hastings in Nebraska on August 30, 31 and September 1? Thinking about going out to see the event and support my local Bugeye racer buddy. I need to torture myself at least one more weekend before heading out to the Kastner Cup, and would love to visit with other FOTers. Joe Guinan Fremont, NE _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 10 22:36:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E9644462 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 22:36:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.q.com (smtp.quartz.synacor.com [205.169.121.111]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11AEB44373 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 22:33:09 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=MVt/OeM/O+V7psr6YXG+1g==:117 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=6xkc5M4UcgEA:10 a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=JF_obtIvH8sA:10 a=5uzyEDg2IGAA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=BM2Wo2QsAAAA:8 a=D5upv6kP6YwA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=kxmWMUuXthpeY_lSkWgA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=d8-XDScYJTYA:10 Authentication-Results: smtp01.quartz.synacor.com smtp.mail=cofrog@q.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp01.quartz.synacor.com header.from=cofrog@q.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp01.quartz.synacor.com: transitional domain q.com does not designate 10.30.7.251 as permitted sender) Received: from [10.30.7.251] ([10.30.7.251:42294] helo=md04.quartz.synacor.com) by smtp.q.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id D1/74-01534-40417025; Sun, 11 Aug 2013 00:33:08 -0400 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 00:33:08 -0400 (EDT) From: cofrog@q.com To: Joe Guinan (Win)/6.0.8_GA_2685) Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] FOT with RMVR at MPH in NE in AUG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm planning to go to Hastings with the Black Pearl TR4. Will then be going to Road America to spectate and drink other folks beer. Budget precludes running the Kastner Cup. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Guinan" To: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 2:58:10 PM Subject: [Fot] FOT with RMVR at MPH in NE in AUG In English, are any of the Friends of Triumph attending the Rocky Mountain Vintage Racing event at Motorsport Park Hastings in Nebraska on August 30, 31 and September 1? Thinking about going out to see the event and support my local Bugeye racer buddy. I need to torture myself at least one more weekend before heading out to the Kastner Cup, and would love to visit with other FOTers. Joe Guinan Fremont, NE _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 10 23:13:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC2344463 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 23:13:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A854436C for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 23:01:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.74]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id BGv01m0021bwxyc01H1pah; Sun, 11 Aug 2013 05:01:49 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.35] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id BH1o1m00L4L5TyG8eH1pcT; Sun, 11 Aug 2013 05:01:49 +0000 From: Bud R To: Joe Guinan Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 23:01:48 -0600 References: <004c01ce960c$52d6b5e0$f88421a0$@rr.com> s=q20121106; t=1376197309; bh=lHjgmJzC0/EM31BJg1YodJo71Jzj35v1KmXYOwin7R4=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=gXBHKLjoWZknNLZE+nwrNjmlX8Y1MJYObhiJR8/IdC/xMXWMSLMtonhFbuHXqrfjZ Xd6XNEhyy3OQWyBQtvoKXG+E1soIM7HDpQtZn4VT+DK0lU5/wzX/VQlwGzt5kJNNqb KuMaIgubMurl9IyUj0+cDgeARw9zSghkU6h0ofTadjb3tn3L8wCaSTOo+g6rm5p9mQ qO3s3H6+x5tr6sFk4SmfHIm7UjT5KScJn25yrB+elfdt1aZ//uQ76oeQgHv0xy18As xb8yC4FOXt4M2SGreZ8TANtYMd52Qz3413H0taWCuK1tqMyyl+ilnFk0bY0K8+npaL 6Y1IiNAEyZPoA== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] FOT with RMVR at MPH in NE in AUG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'll know more after Monday if Hastings is a go or not. I just finished an engine rebuild tonight and will do a test and tune at High Plains Raceway on Monday with JIm Gray testing his TR4 also. I hope to make the Hastings race and then on to the Kastner Cup later that week. Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Aug 10, 2013, at 2:58 PM, Joe Guinan wrote: > In English, are any of the Friends of Triumph attending the Rocky > Mountain > Vintage Racing event at Motorsport Park Hastings in Nebraska on > August 30, > 31 and September 1? Thinking about going out to see the event and > support > my local Bugeye racer buddy. I need to torture myself at least one > more > weekend before heading out to the Kastner Cup, and would love to > visit with > other FOTers. > > Joe Guinan > Fremont, NE > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 11 13:03:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE70446DA for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2013 13:03:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d05.mx.aol.com (omr-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ACA4446B2 for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2013 13:03:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.130]) by omr-d05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6D42D70002C77 for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2013 15:03:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 35E81E0000BC for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2013 15:03:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 14:03:26 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1376247811; bh=2lncBSCzl47eKuw1sVS/V/9f+jj/Z7tRzJcoB1n9YWw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=Rlu6L/eonXwIqn352/LVSeCx9XBV3iLJGiQ2aIZ7oF+dJmmp/BSnMPJJDQN8ERgIq fp17XAPJhWt4adrAFAbXmDTL3R61ZEt0qgcIW3J2Zx5GZT7fiPPJ3QWOxzpcMnpShQ N6LN8M9zcsCX2pvKjRDnO6AAPHUFRFlZRIdyrw5Y= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33825207e00356ff Subject: [Fot] Road America Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I am sure everyone is watching ALMS on ABC. It's your turn next....... Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 11 14:02:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90AB34479D for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2013 14:02:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f170.google.com (mail-ob0-f170.google.com [209.85.214.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E1044743 for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2013 14:01:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f170.google.com with SMTP id eh20so3243457obb.1 for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2013 13:01:32 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=GdISSW4bOc6VSRZ94uk74Zp44Suofu4u8BO+XBq63bk=; b=FeOF0WnwtYR1x9qvpJndV98lWW4nXs25/TswKsU0UXLSlrg6BJwnpAny3MiuGIuy8r pqWl/cnoqQdwTpUFH/Z1kE51GqVzOX5nEhWZWuVUykkSbdcm4O0P9EpdccWOMsQv6EAa VuRhrFGMJtDXZ4D91wUBq/oYS48mVWN4goFQxieG6Lw6s5dzr7YD+f094Y2kf3MWJTao 8F6DRyMe5U+tDCAmnqf+Bl7dxXdo6HPvNfaEAqcPalVkvBBmeLkYx5gwUH40YCCOAO0w Ew1RhESkZhVy0PbtDhm/Gz07buGjfqjhMgo8Q//f0wQPwZZ4ksnztAFckXHkt9iKuTPF oW4g== lc4mr8218018obb.22.1376251292085; Sun, 11 Aug 2013 13:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.7] (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id n2sm29863675obo.6.2013.08.11.13.01.29 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 11 Aug 2013 13:01:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 15:01:28 -0500 References: To: fot Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Road America Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Go DeltaWing! Duncan On Aug 11, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > I am sure everyone is watching ALMS on ABC. > > It's your turn next....... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 11 14:37:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8ECB44719 for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2013 14:37:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50332403DB for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2013 14:35:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [21.211.139.139] (md85336d0.tmodns.net [208.54.83.216]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Likh3-1ViVT21sJZ-00dC29; Sun, 11 Aug 2013 16:35:08 -0400 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 15:34:37 -0500 From: The Fooddude To: Duncan Charlton , fot Triumph DJ05ad2tiPa3j9EPW8DldqyLhHARVxCK3oiBJATsdaZDQhispJ bTZrvkAsQ8QSxWRwljnrPCgXtLGbdMkK8mS4TsRFFlZKZFEkA0 /bTEJcgequoWlBOiCcp0O4x1iXzEECIP5zLN6a50TbLDMnhQBY 1hBbR6TefLtDoTo7m9Skkb9hsXZwuCccz105ddpo5Hy7jLS+FA Plrz0WRPeBJnGgK5qExnla5iPkrW8zwIHBF77FbdrZxEm6pLzH glVoA0vgPsGv+oHpyJn5BbcBwpYFlTPiq+/ZHI1JiwgXD1aEcz r9rRGyP2R4uGlZg/W6vq5NnqWbcl1Y3DbRRWI9LdVG7vx4LXDm biu2JUJaoY/Ik8by5uYi2mTCL+3xuuZrlk= Subject: Re: [Fot] Road America Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Pompelly 2nd in gtc. B Go spenser (he and jim norman took 2nd yesterday at r a in the rolex). Sent via and typos courtesy wireless handheld device. -------- Original message -------- From: Duncan Charlton Date: 08/11/2013 3:01 PM (GMT-06:00) To: fot Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Road America Go DeltaWing! Duncan On Aug 11, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > I am sure everyone is watching ALMS on ABC. > > It's your turn next....... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 11 15:53:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05044487F for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2013 15:53:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com (unknown [64.12.143.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD42B4467A for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2013 15:52:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E2A1670000091 for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2013 17:52:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dec003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dec003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.53.201]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id BE2D1E000087 for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2013 17:52:10 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net From: robertten1@aol.com Received: from 96.233.64.253 by webmail-m281.sysops.aol.com (64.12.152.44) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 11 Aug 2013 17:52:10 -0400 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 17:52:10 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1376257930; bh=e2g86T9bR+hEIBvLr377yWzzzE63FGoRuGf1R/77QSc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ShXbWmGggI/lgVrif9y1fOW/jsDuTIS9PLbOavXevgdWaw+0onBIckC8Z5OFFIMOL f9iHwiMNtBoKenQRHDKqmZWkPGFynlX1AlkWHr1qFh4/SUuaTkzxpe0pfHDu1N9ryh 7w7zykKwnxMrCEfywN+NgP3lXE8ygDoK7Qsl7Yww= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d5208078a0ce2 Subject: Re: [Fot] SCCA Road America & HProd Spitfire Excitement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Well, Seems steering knuckles are failing on our Spits all of a sudden. At my last autocross a week ago I noticed a bit of play in my steering wheel ?? So yesterday while checking over my Spit I remembered my steering wheel play. Turns out my steering knuckle is about to fail thought it looks if I remove the broken safety wires I will be able to tighten the 4 screws holding the assembly together all will be good. But, I think I should dig out one of the three I have in my spares and compare as to which is best. Is this a coincidence problem for our Spits at this time ? Cheers, Bob T -----Original Message----- From: Rocky Entriken To: chris crisenbery ; FoT Triumph Sent: Sat, Aug 3, 2013 3:21 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] SCCA Road America & HProd Spitfire Excitement Wow! As a dedicated regional-race Spitfire backmarker, I'll sympathize. I've never had the shaft fail like that -- been driving mine (street, then ace & autox) since 1966, race-prepped in '71 -- but I've had that knuckle hat connects the shaft to the rack & pinion fail a couple of times, and it as loose again when I was prepping for my one foray into National racing nd the 2011 Runoffs. So there's a nice shiny new (2 years old now) one in here now. Most interesting failure was on an airport circuit at Hutchinson, Ks., where t failed early on the 2nd lap of the race and I found by steering really ently I might nurse it back to the pits. I'd started 3rd and had quickly ropped to 7th. Well on that nurse-it-back lap I found if I didn't jerk the heel I could make it turn -- what is it they tell novices about smooth hand ovements? -- so I tried another lap. Then another. And began picking up ositions. The only corner I really had to give up was the second half of a uick left-right chicane. Last lap I was up to 4th coming into the final urn and the car in 3rd had gone off and was doing his airport loop to come ack on. "Car, you WILL make this turn!" I said, and it did, and I got my rd place back. In the paddock the car would turn no more. Had to put a jack nder it to line it up with my trailer so I could push it on. I classify it now as one of those incredibly stupid things we do when we queeze our brain with a helmet. But still fun. My one visit to RA was fun too, start DFL, finish 11th in the wet, and an xperience that let me relate more to (and enjoy) your description. I know ou'll do better than that in September and raise the Triumph flag high. ood luck. --Rocky Entriken ----- Original Message ----- rom: "chris crisenbery" o: "FoT Triumph" ent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:32 PM ubject: [Fot] SCCA Road America & HProd Spitfire Excitement Hey everyone, _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 12 06:22:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6663542706 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 06:20:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F3BC43104 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 06:20:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b%11]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 07:20:19 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: "'robertten1@aol.com'" , "fot@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Fot] SCCA Road America & HProd Spitfire Excitement Thread-Index: AQHOlt1ToG6+CpczI0e7MJj8bYpSYZmRfKiQ Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 12:20:18 +0000 References: <8D064F42A4AEEB9-10E4-1A496@webmail-m281.sysops.aol.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Subject: Re: [Fot] SCCA Road America & HProd Spitfire Excitement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net << Seems steering knuckles are failing on our Spits all of a sudden ... I will be able to tighten the 4 screws holding the assembly together all will be good >> Don't count on it. Mine has been getting progressively crummier, but took a step toward spooky last weekend at Blackhawk. So we pulled it apart this weekend as long as the engine was out and tried to tighten it - in vain. It appears that the 4 cap screws that hold it together are staked in place. No safety wire. The rubber grommets have largely perished, leaving just the steel disk and the fasteners. It's not going anywhere and is just a little vague on-center, so we tucked it back in there for now and will source a new one ASAP. Yes - strange coincidence? Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of robertten1@aol.com Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 4:52 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] SCCA Road America & HProd Spitfire Excitement Well, Seems steering knuckles are failing on our Spits all of a sudden. At my last autocross a week ago I noticed a bit of play in my steering wheel ?? So yesterday while checking over my Spit I remembered my steering wheel play. Turns out my steering knuckle is about to fail thought it looks if I remove the broken safety wires I will be able to tighten the 4 screws holding the assembly together all will be good. But, I think I should dig out one of the three I have in my spares and compare as to which is best. Is this a coincidence problem for our Spits at this time ? Cheers, Bob T -----Original Message----- From: Rocky Entriken To: chris crisenbery ; FoT Triumph Sent: Sat, Aug 3, 2013 3:21 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] SCCA Road America & HProd Spitfire Excitement Wow! As a dedicated regional-race Spitfire backmarker, I'll sympathize. I've never had the shaft fail like that -- been driving mine (street, then ace & autox) since 1966, race-prepped in '71 -- but I've had that knuckle hat connects the shaft to the rack & pinion fail a couple of times, and it as loose again when I was prepping for my one foray into National racing nd the 2011 Runoffs. So there's a nice shiny new (2 years old now) one in here now. Most interesting failure was on an airport circuit at Hutchinson, Ks., where t failed early on the 2nd lap of the race and I found by steering really ently I might nurse it back to the pits. I'd started 3rd and had quickly ropped to 7th. Well on that nurse-it-back lap I found if I didn't jerk the heel I could make it turn -- what is it they tell novices about smooth hand ovements? -- so I tried another lap. Then another. And began picking up ositions. The only corner I really had to give up was the second half of a uick left-right chicane. Last lap I was up to 4th coming into the final urn and the car in 3rd had gone off and was doing his airport loop to come ack on. "Car, you WILL make this turn!" I said, and it did, and I got my rd place back. In the paddock the car would turn no more. Had to put a jack nder it to line it up with my trailer so I could push it on. I classify it now as one of those incredibly stupid things we do when we queeze our brain with a helmet. But still fun. My one visit to RA was fun too, start DFL, finish 11th in the wet, and an xperience that let me relate more to (and enjoy) your description. I know ou'll do better than that in September and raise the Triumph flag high. ood luck. --Rocky Entriken ----- Original Message ----- rom: "chris crisenbery" o: "FoT Triumph" ent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:32 PM ubject: [Fot] SCCA Road America & HProd Spitfire Excitement Hey everyone, _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 12 09:48:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1661A4278B for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 09:48:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0AE540329 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 09:44:03 -0600 (MDT) a=GY3qpzaqjAnTJxGPJo7Cpg==:17 a=t2QnnntYVAkA:10 a=NGVrYoUD0HIA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=at0wgwlavUYA:10 a=BM2Wo2QsAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=ZX_0UsKXbWMEeKXgSgQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=urJg_C5OatEA:10 a=oan_EGxS6IkA:10 a=d8-XDScYJTYA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=GY3qpzaqjAnTJxGPJo7Cpg==:117 Received: from [76.84.97.85] ([76.84.97.85:4474] helo=guinanhp) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id CE/A8-18468-2C209025; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 15:44:02 +0000 From: "Joe Guinan" To: References: Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 10:47:30 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac6WvSe8XsHwGH7iQyWwc+tQedE6tgAtOtZg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] FOT with RMVR at MPH in NE in AUG ? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The "Black Pearl" gave my Bugeye buddy all he could handle out at High Plains Raceway, so I remember it well... Beautiful car, well driven. Hoping Bud can make it with his Spitfire. Also hoping some of the other TR4's, etc. are going to make the trip to the flatlands of Nebraska. Plus, I have another reason to go to the Hastings event. Seems the FOT will definitely have another Spitfire racing next year, as I've reached an agreement to purchase one from an RMVR member who's retiring from racing. NICE car. Details later - but I don't think I'll be towing it to the Kastner Cup at Road America. Joe Guinan Fremont, NE ------------------------------------Original Reply #1---------------------- From: cofrog@q.com I'm planning to go to Hastings with the Black Pearl TR4. Will then be going to Road America to spectate and drink other folks beer. Budget precludes running the Kastner Cup. -------------------------------------Original Reply #2-------------------- From: Bud R I'll know more after Monday if Hastings is a go or not. I just finished an engine rebuild tonight and will do a test and tune at High Plains Raceway on Monday with JIm Gray testing his TR4 also. I hope to make the Hastings race and then on to the Kastner Cup later that week. Bud Rolofson _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 12 09:52:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8F2427BC for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 09:52:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m05.mx.aol.com (unknown [64.12.143.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA8740690 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 09:51:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.193]) by omr-m05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 06F82700B9532; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 11:50:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 9C4A7E000100; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 11:50:52 -0400 (EDT) References: <006d01ce9773$40f563e0$c2e02ba0$@rr.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 10:50:52 -0500 To: Joe Guinan x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1376322652; bh=nnekM5tv2qN/9z9cp83bx0cXMs0BbP9RYJmsH+AMdtw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=v5vj+aQKJi1XZ0yNSKzfTuJIVJbMon+yfnhz8XDb9Pt52D2Zcpx87tcnPSVMu4/jh FcQkx/nhdiMkxJVcJwb2davVChHPIol47em9xOxl4ed/zqYDcum5ng9mY0n1km6hcC FjHYYknrbRujzJptq/zlglgRorCMD7cz1cXz9K7I= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c15209045c6418 Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] FOT with RMVR at MPH in NE in AUG ? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Next year we will be at Eagles Canyon....... Sent from my iPad On Aug 12, 2013, at 10:47 AM, "Joe Guinan" wrote: > The "Black Pearl" gave my Bugeye buddy all he could handle out at High > Plains Raceway, so I remember it well... Beautiful car, well driven. > > Hoping Bud can make it with his Spitfire. Also hoping some of the other > TR4's, etc. are going to make the trip to the flatlands of Nebraska. > > Plus, I have another reason to go to the Hastings event. Seems the FOT will > definitely have another Spitfire racing next year, as I've reached an > agreement to purchase one from an RMVR member who's retiring from racing. > NICE car. Details later - but I don't think I'll be towing it to the Kastner > Cup at Road America. > > Joe Guinan > Fremont, NE > > ------------------------------------Original Reply #1---------------------- > From: cofrog@q.com > I'm planning to go to Hastings with the Black Pearl TR4. Will then be going > to Road America to spectate and drink other folks beer. Budget precludes > running the Kastner Cup. > -------------------------------------Original Reply #2-------------------- > From: Bud R > I'll know more after Monday if Hastings is a go or not. > I just finished an engine rebuild tonight and will do a test and tune at > High Plains Raceway on Monday with JIm Gray testing his TR4 also. I hope to > make the Hastings race and then on to the Kastner Cup later that week. > Bud Rolofson > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 12 16:30:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC1454283D for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 16:30:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm20.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm20.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20FA4283D for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 16:26:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.157] by nm20.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 2013 22:26:17 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.53] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 2013 22:26:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp106.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 2013 22:26:17 -0000 Uo_5YMLF8bo9GNbMMF8wFAaf_ei8Z.7tdVP7A1Bnl5C0A2TH.I5AEsDL81BR kEpAob8AwJesro8GixEFXjj6479VTRgFHYsV0C.tBfJQTQyT_m2P1PVKrVts zpMQnoFNsV3NxKwkxc4NTZQG57LXeevoTE_st6AiSP4u4uTrEIVusl4jKcb4 P0nHe4uabb07KlEUWqAPohq5yagvjqkQy2._iT5qO6Y3Nc3nEkAgLjfFA5dA BMv138Y3RfYC6dPyYBJ6pg7vGEArJG8ktfo_RKM2NKiY_i_FyUqeRjFX1Gai QgIat.oyper_Ypiss1kKLIkaPZqRLQoStUAZhxPw2zeGxWjcaNM1aFhwtFiK w1bMJqns0e0CIB8jHkPLx1BhY3P2regxeC0HXDOgjqtNjYbAM12VP1FCw52W a5RaGlDh_5rv1YtW.CJ4a72pZF9KhJxV9uwZuTVNucXs0.0XT0xEBFQwLhQq jjMjyT4WF9cZtuew4.krQMKd.gS2AMR96WSXDkBkyu_ejCAgTeIYkUHuUjES lGSxe_FcNRDng7lgGEklSgRhuMV68CPqR82ZslyUMAk7k1YI5xENzg0naSzE Rn_aq.CcIiK_izCUXWMs4WJXaw4BnTuupB2XzFNM- smtp106.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 2013 15:26:17 -0700 PDT From: "Rocky Entriken" To: "Barr, Scott" , , References: <8D064F42A4AEEB9-10E4-1A496@webmail-m281.sysops.aol.com> <82BFCF3631841845BADD37BD9FE7EA73203E3198@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 17:27:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] SCCA Road America & HProd Spitfire Excitement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Source: The Roadster Factory. Part No. FAM1718 -- "Flexible Steering joint" - $41.99. http://trf.zeni.net/spitfireGB/index.php?zoom=1&page=60 --Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barr, Scott" To: ; Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 7:20 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] SCCA Road America & HProd Spitfire Excitement > << Seems steering knuckles are failing on our Spits all of a sudden ... I > will > be able to tighten the 4 screws holding the assembly together all will be > good >>> > > Don't count on it. Mine has been getting progressively crummier, but took > a > step toward spooky last weekend at Blackhawk. So we pulled it apart this > weekend as long as the engine was out and tried to tighten it - in vain. > It > appears that the 4 cap screws that hold it together are staked in place. > No > safety wire. The rubber grommets have largely perished, leaving just the > steel disk and the fasteners. It's not going anywhere and is just a > little > vague on-center, so we tucked it back in there for now and will source a > new > one ASAP. > > Yes - strange coincidence? > > Scott B. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf > Of robertten1@aol.com > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 4:52 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] SCCA Road America & HProd Spitfire Excitement > > Well, > > Seems steering knuckles are failing on our Spits all of a sudden. At my > last > autocross a week ago I noticed a bit of play in my steering wheel ?? So > yesterday while checking over my Spit I remembered my steering wheel play. > Turns out my steering knuckle is about to fail thought it looks if I > remove > the broken safety wires I will be able to tighten the 4 screws holding the > assembly together all will be good. But, I think I should dig out one of > the > three I have in my spares and compare as to which is best. > > Is this a coincidence problem for our Spits at this time ? > > Cheers, > Bob T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 12 17:31:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918C74287B for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 17:31:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d02.mx.aol.com (omr-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7F640C01 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 17:27:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.204]) by omr-d02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6740A700000B7 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:27:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-deb003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-deb003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.53.137]) by mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1A69EE000086 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:27:14 -0400 (EDT) References: <8D064F42A4AEEB9-10E4-1A496@webmail-m281.sysops.aol.com> <82BFCF3631841845BADD37BD9FE7EA73203E3198@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <715EC0BF2995449BAA76899544154899@rocky> To: fot@autox.team.net From: robertten1@aol.com Received: from 96.233.64.253 by webmail-vd015.sysops.aol.com (205.188.21.127) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:27:14 -0400 Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:27:14 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1376350034; bh=4idlo+CMYNXleZKPm8UNJrPaPBqybIeGAaBnRhr/RxM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CwDwiLYKt70+5y309XGBJ3sdYh/d7c7wDz3eFFwNMUYQdg4DQpU73C5Ln5DPwP0pp EDprHfr5GW08gj4r/Y/BqdV1i8ZngVOi9jH26JSHMsHx/hv3ra3LdoFA/1Yyp7UFzu 3pIGHu8r7U8ELuimRBqAoMe8ybDn/LlYJTtYTt+I= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cc52096f523719 Subject: Re: [Fot] SCCA Road America & HProd Spitfire Excitement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hmmm ? TRF lists the same part number for all models ... I might be mistaken but the early models are smaller diameter splined shafts Can anyone back me up. Just so going thru my spares I found two for the later cars and one that I believe is for the early cars (smaller I.D.) both end of the knuckle. More curious, Bob T -----Original Message----- From: Rocky Entriken To: Barr, Scott ; robertten1 ; fot Sent: Mon, Aug 12, 2013 6:26 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] SCCA Road America & HProd Spitfire Excitement Source: The Roadster Factory. Part No. FAM1718 -- "Flexible Steering oint" - $41.99. http://trf.zeni.net/spitfireGB/index.php?zoom=1&page=60 --Rocky ----- Original Message ----- rom: "Barr, Scott" o: ; ent: Monday, August 12, 2013 7:20 AM ubject: Re: [Fot] SCCA Road America & HProd Spitfire Excitement << Seems steering knuckles are failing on our Spits all of a sudden ... I will be able to tighten the 4 screws holding the assembly together all will be good >> Don't count on it. Mine has been getting progressively crummier, but took a step toward spooky last weekend at Blackhawk. So we pulled it apart this weekend as long as the engine was out and tried to tighten it - in vain. It appears that the 4 cap screws that hold it together are staked in place. No safety wire. The rubber grommets have largely perished, leaving just the steel disk and the fasteners. It's not going anywhere and is just a little vague on-center, so we tucked it back in there for now and will source a new one ASAP. Yes - strange coincidence? Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of robertten1@aol.com Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 4:52 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] SCCA Road America & HProd Spitfire Excitement Well, Seems steering knuckles are failing on our Spits all of a sudden. At my last autocross a week ago I noticed a bit of play in my steering wheel ?? So yesterday while checking over my Spit I remembered my steering wheel play. Turns out my steering knuckle is about to fail thought it looks if I remove the broken safety wires I will be able to tighten the 4 screws holding the assembly together all will be good. But, I think I should dig out one of the three I have in my spares and compare as to which is best. Is this a coincidence problem for our Spits at this time ? Cheers, Bob T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 12 18:04:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF8AF403FC for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 18:04:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E04DC4293E for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 17:59:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.221.234.29] (mobile-166-137-086-192.mycingular.net [166.137.86.192]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.07(7.0.4.27.6) 64bit (built Jun 21 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0MRF00JMPZYYJ7B0@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 23:59:25 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-08-12_07:2013-08-12,2013-08-12,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1308120226 References: <8D064F42A4AEEB9-10E4-1A496@webmail-m281.sysops.aol.com> <82BFCF3631841845BADD37BD9FE7EA73203E3198@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <715EC0BF2995449BAA76899544154899@rocky> <8D065CA9C74153A-1C0C-1F223@webmail-vd015.sysops.aol.com> From: SCOTT JANZEN Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:59:23 -0400 To: "robertten1@aol.com" Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] SCCA Road America & HProd Spitfire Excitement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Pegasus has a variety of (probably higher strength) steering joints. Would any of these fit? Sent from my mobile device On Aug 12, 2013, at 7:27 PM, robertten1@aol.com wrote: > Hmmm ? > > TRF lists the same part number for all models ... I might be mistaken but the > early models are smaller diameter splined shafts Can anyone back me up. Just > so going thru my spares I found two for the later cars and one that I believe > is for the early cars (smaller I.D.) both end of the knuckle. > > More curious, > Bob T > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rocky Entriken > To: Barr, Scott ; robertten1 ; fot > > Sent: Mon, Aug 12, 2013 6:26 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] SCCA Road America & HProd Spitfire Excitement > > > Source: The Roadster Factory. Part No. FAM1718 -- "Flexible Steering > oint" - $41.99. > http://trf.zeni.net/spitfireGB/index.php?zoom=1&page=60 > --Rocky > ----- Original Message ----- > rom: "Barr, Scott" > o: ; > ent: Monday, August 12, 2013 7:20 AM > ubject: Re: [Fot] SCCA Road America & HProd Spitfire Excitement > > << Seems steering knuckles are failing on our Spits all of a sudden ... I > will > be able to tighten the 4 screws holding the assembly together all will be > good > > Don't count on it. Mine has been getting progressively crummier, but took > a > step toward spooky last weekend at Blackhawk. So we pulled it apart this > weekend as long as the engine was out and tried to tighten it - in vain. > It > appears that the 4 cap screws that hold it together are staked in place. > No > safety wire. The rubber grommets have largely perished, leaving just the > steel disk and the fasteners. It's not going anywhere and is just a > little > vague on-center, so we tucked it back in there for now and will source a > new > one ASAP. > > Yes - strange coincidence? > > Scott B. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf > Of robertten1@aol.com > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 4:52 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] SCCA Road America & HProd Spitfire Excitement > > Well, > > Seems steering knuckles are failing on our Spits all of a sudden. At my > last > autocross a week ago I noticed a bit of play in my steering wheel ?? So > yesterday while checking over my Spit I remembered my steering wheel play. > Turns out my steering knuckle is about to fail thought it looks if I > remove > the broken safety wires I will be able to tighten the 4 screws holding the > assembly together all will be good. But, I think I should dig out one of > the > three I have in my spares and compare as to which is best. > > Is this a coincidence problem for our Spits at this time ? > > Cheers, > Bob T > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 12 18:11:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D514273D for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 18:11:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA4440E02 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 18:11:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.20]) by qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Bsi91m0070S2fkCA90BPjR; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 00:11:23 +0000 Received: from Bud ([67.164.120.205]) by omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id C0BN1m0034RzRTX8V0BN3t; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 00:11:22 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "'Duncan Charlton'" , "'fot Triumph'" References: Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 17:11:20 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6XuFvJbpYOzZQ0T/uRIsAyYs44PgAASAkw Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1376352683; bh=KtPjxyB1/hM+Ff0Xrp6jPXDYoSzyXISKcaYDSvS3Qak=; h=Received:Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PZ6NSqs5iUuNMruNlDFYmG95anYfcPsl7pQVZTcGSGGwoqa2B1DAD+cLU4vWEsfnz SjhHw2M6NxlTWITBvmJa88ocZBdM8WJzrhFjGz+Y1x7PoagyVHvjeU/hIWC619AM9r 68LtAuYxbrNfee7rmFl4dKD2wND1mFsNkmgYQgxqoqt4KRp6mliO4TBbeO3dPmRQeN SPFxUJUNDm9Nz2q6w5rBbvFkhd0CMhB7JT+E3dTedU9pJGX47HQytKir388Mq7M7pr +UcfLywCEyALVKzlROp0Cm/gqbcpe5Wmzr2LM6mt5AN/nih0o5FraEKwP4eBux2pLc 9UoC66Zjda1nQ== Subject: Re: [Fot] Road America Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Between the Delta Wing and the Americas Cup boats, I'd better get in tune with the 'modern world' RB -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Duncan Charlton Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:01 PM To: fot Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Road America Go DeltaWing! Duncan On Aug 11, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > I am sure everyone is watching ALMS on ABC. > > It's your turn next....... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 12 19:41:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF65642790 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:41:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260ED4003F for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:40:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.28.17]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MRG00KDA4MUNF20@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 20:40:08 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: , References: <8D064F42A4AEEB9-10E4-1A496@webmail-m281.sysops.aol.com> <82BFCF3631841845BADD37BD9FE7EA73203E3198@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <715EC0BF2995449BAA76899544154899@rocky> <8D065CA9C74153A-1C0C-1F223@webmail-vd015.sysops.aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:40:08 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] SCCA Road America & HProd Spitfire Excitement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Pegasus sells a Borgeson HD u-joint with 9/16x36 splines which is what my TR6 is. Around $80. It's a replacement for various British cars. NFI. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] SCCA Road America & HProd Spitfire Excitement > Hmmm ? > > TRF lists the same part number for all models ... I might be mistaken but > the > early models are smaller diameter splined shafts Can anyone back me up. > Just > so going thru my spares I found two for the later cars and one that I > believe > is for the early cars (smaller I.D.) both end of the knuckle. > > More curious, > Bob T > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rocky Entriken > To: Barr, Scott ; robertten1 ; > fot > > Sent: Mon, Aug 12, 2013 6:26 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] SCCA Road America & HProd Spitfire Excitement > > > Source: The Roadster Factory. Part No. FAM1718 -- "Flexible Steering > oint" - $41.99. > http://trf.zeni.net/spitfireGB/index.php?zoom=1&page=60 > --Rocky > ----- Original Message ----- > rom: "Barr, Scott" > o: ; > ent: Monday, August 12, 2013 7:20 AM > ubject: Re: [Fot] SCCA Road America & HProd Spitfire Excitement > > << Seems steering knuckles are failing on our Spits all of a sudden ... I > will > be able to tighten the 4 screws holding the assembly together all will be > good >>> > > Don't count on it. Mine has been getting progressively crummier, but took > a > step toward spooky last weekend at Blackhawk. So we pulled it apart this > weekend as long as the engine was out and tried to tighten it - in vain. > It > appears that the 4 cap screws that hold it together are staked in place. > No > safety wire. The rubber grommets have largely perished, leaving just the > steel disk and the fasteners. It's not going anywhere and is just a > little > vague on-center, so we tucked it back in there for now and will source a > new > one ASAP. > > Yes - strange coincidence? > > Scott B. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf > Of robertten1@aol.com > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 4:52 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] SCCA Road America & HProd Spitfire Excitement > > Well, > > Seems steering knuckles are failing on our Spits all of a sudden. At my > last > autocross a week ago I noticed a bit of play in my steering wheel ?? So > yesterday while checking over my Spit I remembered my steering wheel play. > Turns out my steering knuckle is about to fail thought it looks if I > remove > the broken safety wires I will be able to tighten the 4 screws holding the > assembly together all will be good. But, I think I should dig out one of > the > three I have in my spares and compare as to which is best. > > Is this a coincidence problem for our Spits at this time ? > > Cheers, > Bob T > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 12 20:14:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39BC4403A5 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 20:14:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f48.google.com (mail-oa0-f48.google.com [209.85.219.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4D340396 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 20:13:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id o17so10470063oag.7 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:13:31 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=y8OJu1Vlly/HRoxa1mYHZoW5y/+oc8YTGvaLkRvbrKw=; b=lzwrAkmZBmmpxTpC6Ams+iMj2zYWHWKMyTWSOk4qyuy1IZFO0LzhGKBfFkcD6wkZXU 7yujlQzNHyJl/JP2u0IpBYMDvgSI9gnsyBrio0Zn0ZBxAl5i/83UXPyShLQnlDLqy2Zi DB7K/C8Vufzs1jyzVnx7kaNY/1DYzCCfmz4TgqknobW47oetPHs6iAcv6mnLfqclO8M8 vr8YPKBR8HbYO8v7gqGY5ah0vsFlk/ZECw45YelaobEomhnwCL/bt6omPhYheyUJcPDv UjdL7Np98Rn4wM8TpZvSVQGmD2t4jOm39xMqafDy/TTBWFzUuePNP0a74GAL1fJvRaT2 W93w== gb4mr7178824obb.43.1376360011313; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.7] (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hm1sm36852545obb.9.2013.08.12.19.13.29 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:13:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:13:29 -0500 References: <008601ce97b9$a3b8e330$eb2aa990$@net> To: fot Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Road America Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amazingly quick for a 1.9 liter car with skinny tires in front! Duncan On Aug 12, 2013, at 7:11 PM, RACER BUD wrote: > Between the Delta Wing and the Americas Cup boats, I'd better get in tune > with the 'modern world' > RB > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Duncan Charlton > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:01 PM > To: fot Triumph > Subject: Re: [Fot] Road America > > Go DeltaWing! > Duncan > > On Aug 11, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > >> I am sure everyone is watching ALMS on ABC. >> >> It's your turn next....... > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 12 22:13:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4089B42A0E for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 22:13:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail176c2.megamailservers.com (mail176c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91AB4032B for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 09:24:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail176c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r7CFOPTZ024947 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 11:24:37 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 11:24:27 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6VMrK9OaZMk+cHTV6Z4nY1CrblsACPTsog a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=TBgVLvMDAAAA:8 a=RCQYDNg8AAAA:8 a=JmhL_RV-AAAA:8 a=--qaBYxuAAAA:8 a=gIVQHC19AAAA:8 a=qZ7SqM8kAAAA:8 a=v6f5TmY_AAAA:8 a=Wf0IBfMgYJ8xjIW2MJ4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Sutehle-eKAA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=qmz6BShfhr0A:10 a=SX4OyXR9fccA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=GxVwq1BGv-gA:10 a=sNjcG60zo04A:10 a=IUjVWOEaf-NprrLT:21 a=LcpCI9dTCVOPAZh7:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=lJjz8N4HAAAA:8 a=9awPNjcHI4djKMalC14A:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=Sf_gFPzhefAA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=tBN_iyRwK42SZo7h:21 a=vC_EV62CKGMB0Xnk:21 a=RCt2mLiEu68p93s6:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: [Fot] FW: What's Next at VIR! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Here is the full VIR press release...hope the pictures download, but if not you should be able to go to their site and pick it up. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. _____ From: VIRginia International Raceway [mailto:cwalker=virnow.com@mail76.wdc01.mcdlv.net] On Behalf Of VIRginia International Raceway Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 3:00 PM To: jhhasty@gdhs.com Subject: What's Next at VIR! Win a $100 K &N Gift Certificate, read about Changes to the Oak Tree Turn, Chump Car World Series , NASCAR K &N Pro Series and more! View this email in your browser VIRginia International Raceway Changes to the Oak Tree Turn First, all of us at Virginia International Raceway would like to thank our fans and community for their extraordinary support after the unfortunate event of VIR's Mighty Oak falling down. You have all made this event much easier to bear. Due to the fall of the Mighty Oak, we have had to make some changes to the entire Oak Tree Turn. It was our intention to wait until winter to make these changes and to release this announcement for 2014, but a few recent incidents have shown we need to take action now: * Station formerly known as 11A has been moved across the track to Driver's Left and is now Station 11. * Station formerly known as the Oak Tree station has been moved off the turn and placed on Driver's Left at the Photo / F&C access gate inside the chain-link fence and will now be called Station 12. * Station formerly known as 12 will now be called Station 13. Read the Full Press Release Take this survey and win a $100 K&N gift certificate! Which events have you attended at VIRginia International Raceway? What would you like to see at VIR in the future? Answer just a few some simple questions and be entered to win a $100 K&N gift certificate! The survey ends on August 16 at noon so take the survey now! Take the Survey Get Your Tickets in the TMI Racing Products Store ChumpCar Event tickets can now be purchased in the TMI Racing Products, LLC store in the North Paddock. Stop by and get your tickets for upcoming events today! TMI Racing Products recently announced the startup of this new retail business at VIRginia International Raceway! >> Read the press release here . Optima Batteries ChumpCar World Series ChumpCar On August 10-11, ChumpCar returns with your favorite wacky "junkers n' clunkers" 24-hr endurance race. This series is for grassroots race teams and chumps like you that have always wanted to go road racing without all the hassle. Buy Tickets NASCAR K&N Pro Series East Buy Tickets August Fan of the Month Congrats to our August fan of the month, Joe H. of Charlottesville, VA! Joe will receive $20 in VIR Bucks, which can be used at the track or toward a ticket purchase. Thanks John, and congrats! Joe's most memorable visit to VIR was "Motorcycle track days in 2005, 2006 on the North course and the Grand Course. Awesome experience!" and his favorite spot to view the races is from the "Turn 3,4,5 area." Interested in being the VIR Fan of the Month (and winning VIR Bucks)? Winners are chosen on the 5th of each month! Enter the Contest on Facebook Like VIR on Facebook and follow @VIRNow on Twitter for updates and contests! Dixie Cup Double Header Support Races (Aug 23-24) Dixie Cup Double Header The VIR "We're Glad to be in the Heart of Dixie" Cup Double Header Race is being hosted during the K&N Pro Series East Spectator Event August 23-24, 2013 and will feature a wide collection of historic and current late model stock cars. Racing purely for bragging rights and the awesome "cup" trophy, these races return the drivers to an era when racing was more about having fun than about who could outspend the other teams. Read More & Buy Tickets VIR on the Road August 10 - River City Diner - Richmond, VA August 17 - Star City Cruisers VA Car Show - Salem, VA August 17 - South Boston Speedway - South Boston, VA Will we be near you this month? Stop by our tent and register for prize drawings! VIR Driving Experience VIR Driving Experience If you have the need for speed, then piloting a race-prepped Ariel Atom around VIR is just what you need! Give your loved one a gift that they will remember for years to come! Feel your heart race as you make your way through the challenging twists and turns of Virginia International Raceway during either a Half-Day or Full-Day VIR Driving Experience! Don't have a Full-Faced Helmet, Driving Suit or Driving Gloves? Don't worry! We provide you with everything you need to get you out on the track safely! So what are you waiting for? Let's get you strapped in for an experience that you will be talking about for years to come! An Ariel Atom is waiting for YOU! Book your spot TODAY! Upcoming 2013 events: Half-Day on the Patriot Course - Level 1 VIR Driving Experience: $525/person * Friday, August 30th, 2013 * Saturday, August 31st, 2013 * Friday, September 6th, 2013 * Saturday, September 7th, 2013 *Morning and Afternoon Sessions are Available for Half-Day Level 1 VIR Driving Experience Events* Full-Day on the South Course - Level 2 VIR Driving Experience: $1,695/person * Friday, August 16th, 2013 * Thursday, August 29th, 2013 * Thursday, September 19th, 2013 View more VIR Driving Experience Dates VIR Driving Experience Gift Certificates are Available! x 304 to reserve your spot! Need Space for Your Automotive or Race Business? VIRginia Motorsport Technology Park and Speed Suites can meet your needs! VIRginia Motorsport Technology Park at VIRginia International Raceway has several options and specials. Please click the links below for additional information. Speed Suites are now available for rent at $1,000/month for a minimum 1-year term. 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Our mailing address is: VIRginia International Raceway 1245 Pine Tree Road Alton, VA 24520 Add us to your address book unsubscribe from this list update subscription preferences _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 13 10:37:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA3F940338 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 10:37:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m09.mx.aol.com (omr-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4F7400FF for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 10:30:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.197]) by omr-m09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8314A700D2484; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 12:30:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id C373FE000276; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 12:30:18 -0400 (EDT) References: <14DCDDC8-43A2-483E-A965-854E89F3E630@cs.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 11:30:19 -0500 To: Jeff Clark x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1376411419; bh=PRWtkTs5FG/26lVZCOAW61547TwtFsp4RXtRX5rZyuA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=bo4vNo37d6SFaOnJAyhnqZq1PD5mgJJTn4gdskx2LMeJUsTu9TvIUDmMG6YzXMP4y U2WaBjbx4rQ1WEWQ/F26repBTFRWO/FIrFskpyYkup1duZl1lJtINozoaHGLR+YmpA u8EVdeQF05hNaWmAKeguuoI3PqY4t8GEDFh2GAnc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c5520a5f1a0003 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] VSCDA Group Assignments. Jack Woehrle Technical Director. Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Jeff, If you are a member of VARAC you will be accepted in the configuration you run with them. Of course, you must pass the safety requirements of tech. You must have a transponder. HANS device is strongly recommended, but not required. If your medical is up to date with VARAC it will be accepted. You would be in Group 8 and class can be determined by Jack Woehrle. There is a charge, unfortunately, for a temporary membership that is on the entry form. Or you could opt for full membership and save $10.00 on the banquet. If I missed something or mis spoke, I am sure someone will speak up. We are all in this together. Looking forward to your attendance. We continue to see a large number of GT6s planning to run this event. Best Regards, Joe Alexander Sent from my iPad On Aug 13, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Jeff Clark wrote: > Hi Joe > I am registering for the ELVF and have some questions you may be able to help with. I am a member of VARAC in Canada what do I do about car tech inspection, a medical for me, my group and class and do I have to join VSCDA. Thanks. > Jeff Clark > 71 GT6 > > > > From: n197tr4@cs.com > > Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:14:12 -0500 > > To: fot@autox.team.net > > CC: jackwoehrle@aol.com > > Subject: [Fot] VSCDA Group Assignments. Jack Woehrle Technical Director. Kastner Cup > > > > I am pleased to announce a contact for any questions regarding your Group > > Assignment. > > > > I have known Jack for 20 years and have worked closely with him during that > > time. > > > > We have a few "non-vintage" cars coming. > > > > There will be a regular run group for all of them. (I expect no one to end up > > in Exhibition) Jack will be reviewing your specifications and placing you in > > an appropriate group for the ELVF. As a courtesy to the Featured Marque, there > > is some latitude. > > > > If you have any questions regarding your car, please contact Jack. If you have > > an SCCA car, he would expect you to run it in your usual configuration. Please > > check with him, as he will be the final authority. > > > > The expectation beyond that is that you will comply with VSCDA technical > > inspection requirements. This is the domain of VSCDA and Dave Young. Please > > contact VSCDA if you have any concerns about your ability to pass tech. > > > > As already discussed, HANS devices are strongly recommended, but not > > required. > > > > Get your entries in now so we can deal with details that might arise. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Joe A > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jsclark@live.ca _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 13 10:40:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD51400FF for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 10:40:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d10.mx.aol.com (omr-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372DA400FF for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 10:39:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.195]) by omr-d10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 399147003F614; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 12:39:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 6E0E8E000099; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 12:39:55 -0400 (EDT) References: <21dd0fa3.aad929.14075a2c5ea.Webtop.45@charter.net> <4B72FAEB-6FA2-4A37-9B35-5E44D2208FE6@cs.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 11:39:54 -0500 To: marty sukey x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1376411996; bh=HYg5momaZYn13zSUY2B2ojUnRtxgNW63cLq8cP65z+s=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=aucNnQFNA6Moveifc896R5QD7yRkAchFxW5tBwfXxVdVY9AiAgaEw8xF8SbpWeOeF jbbA96I11qVK1H77qQRATJxuMk7hITmEdVlOyXFIqRa9BMD0qBSVeo5YoLpIJQnoqB Yi1njbWNgrZMYpKZ+CEunq6x0EIgenQDzSPWuw0k= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c3520a615b0379 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] [Kcup] Kastner Cup. Shuttle Service? Nope. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Marty, et. al. The track is about 2 miles, maybe a bit more. We are paddocked close to Gate 6 and this makes it additionally convenient for getting in and out of the track. There is no shuttle service. There will be plenty of ladies and cars around, so get they can get acquainted and car pool. Thursday night and your name tags will help facilitate that process. Thanks for asking. Regards, Joe A. Sent from my iPad On Aug 13, 2013, at 10:47 AM, marty sukey wrote: > > Hi Joe. Question for you. Well two I guess. Just how far from the track in the host hotel? Do you know if they will offer any kind of shuttle service to/from the track? Thinking of the ladies, if there was some shuttles they would not have to head out so early when the participants have to get there for drivers meetings, setting thing up and stuff. > > Marty _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 13 11:58:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41B9403B2 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 11:58:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m05.mx.aol.com (omr-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE5540074 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 11:33:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by omr-m05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E2AED70000091; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 13:33:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtd003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtd003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.201]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 9D23EE00008A; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 13:33:45 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 13:33:45 -0400 (EDT) To: n197tr4@cs.com, trmarty@hotmail.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1376415225; bh=mN5wKw/61byWBUIuu8iaBb57y/hiUEHvYcINRB4SgVI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sfK+B1LxSgQY2AUUem44LmO4ozLzf6gTAs1dLGn/0jTTD+ehMhpVvBw4Z00TJ1Le6 W4zTf5K45EBDoUakhJ85c8fD5lNpAd9W2fEXBo6yVgHluuxk0CpMSB2yRT3tAP3q67 jfhbdmOAk9WWY4ha9zfU2uGiCipxrr+hVrXXzqto= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c520a6df96c48 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] [Kcup] Kastner Cup. Shuttle Service? Nope. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 08/13/2013 11:40:41 AM Central Daylight Time, n197tr4@cs.com writes: > There will be plenty of ladies and cars around, so get they can get > acquainted > and car pool. > Oh sure. We'll be racing, changing clutches, etc., and you've got Marty getting acquainted with our ladies? What if they find out we're not so good after all? Bill (Damdinger) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 13 12:26:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE7A403BB for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 12:26:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f174.google.com (mail-wi0-f174.google.com [209.85.212.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CBE84003F for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 12:01:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f174.google.com with SMTP id j17so977423wiw.1 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 11:01:00 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=cjBmvG1Z/ZUI1xBrObDCdstouxmXAaHNqJeYnbqBNcg=; b=ybZ6I72NwpiKkxrH9+aAjCRtt5PykqCun+lqYaOwGyJlK4qMqhg2hl8384OL0BHcPq kagCBgY1ON8e/TOl4s+1ebqPThoOyndGpqiF+CmnlzVoauS9FCdExioPRxaLsLfh7on1 yvayxSQQeQ3PQyaZM8wBNfSS9e+dvxYeo61s5IH1hZKDqgan73MNqg7hP+IR7an3Sjak lKmdQnJPoVOZYbJNcAuxyy4w7AjvIoxe0Y9daBd26h5i47C78EwQCYBmWVA232SdHill GTDc8LtWv+38ASX0XBAxosxn2ZOsNS8O5R6TzAF3rC4IG0dRXLIWlCqI79mFlxQtLX7X Pilg== t16mr3431981wij.62.1376416860126; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 11:01:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.231.134 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 11:01:00 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 13:01:00 -0500 From: Irv Korey To: BillDentin@aol.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] [Kcup] Kastner Cup. Shuttle Service? Nope. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 12:33 PM, wrote: > > Oh sure. We'll be racing, changing clutches, etc., and you've got Marty > getting acquainted with our ladies? What if they find out we're not so > good > after all? > > Bill (Damdinger) > Bill, Our ladies already know. At least, mine does. Irv _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 13 13:08:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5492B403BB for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 13:08:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f181.google.com (mail-ie0-f181.google.com [209.85.223.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04AB9400AD for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 13:02:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f181.google.com with SMTP id x14so11261145ief.12 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 12:02:58 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-gm-message-state:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=wg5XMSeLYyL7maGkAj6sOB7PtXp/zTWH7kttopFQoNQ=; b=OCvUKrJuKcYslCzr6Vbo4GMv8Dn4gekPG/N9qBCSqlCgUvdTNMHEo2rZqmT3o4c5wU Czi4V6FWZot/vCVI4cazodYovkxHI0UOjDH0LSs+CZ4VkFKHCTxr4c63TFeJBZ2kSOn3 E1h7UM+x8me++OlnkKBsmBbgFBzHant+ieMEQVhqSjUojuYAYgkMnZmnaTcUW+SQUrmv 4clUJz8jUEjvoep52WVxl7pEnhr4CaxhCFzFXETT3To3AtHyl2FhjGnL3tab8I+ha25a XoqYmeQbMG/AhisglGQc0M3CBbegikiPBaZP6sCwOq1DNDHOpbrJ1hN3JVqc5VbfRRN0 W0rw== gk19mr1035042icb.54.1376420578310; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 12:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.108.136.109] (mobile-198-228-192-132.mycingular.net. [198.228.192.132]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id pk8sm5820770igb.6.2013.08.13.12.02.56 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 13 Aug 2013 12:02:56 -0700 (PDT) References: From: Bob Bownes -Seiri Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 15:02:55 -0400 To: Irv Korey Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] [Kcup] Kastner Cup. Shuttle Service? Nope. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Some of them even encourage it! On Aug 13, 2013, at 14:01, Irv Korey wrote: > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 12:33 PM, wrote: > > >> >> Oh sure. We'll be racing, changing clutches, etc., and you've got Marty >> getting acquainted with our ladies? What if they find out we're not so >> good >> after all? >> >> Bill (Damdinger) > > Bill, > > Our ladies already know. At least, mine does. > > Irv > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 13 16:41:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B27F40396 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 16:41:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7C04032A for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 16:37:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.28.17]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MRH00M5BQURH920@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 17:37:40 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Irv Korey" , References: Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 18:37:40 -0400 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] [Kcup] Kastner Cup. Shuttle Service? Nope. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Brings up the old joke: Who's that lady I saw you with last night. That's no lady, that's my wife! Couldn't help it. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irv Korey" To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] [Kcup] Kastner Cup. Shuttle Service? Nope. > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 12:33 PM, wrote: > > >> >> Oh sure. We'll be racing, changing clutches, etc., and you've got Marty >> getting acquainted with our ladies? What if they find out we're not so >> good >> after all? >> >> Bill (Damdinger) >> > > Bill, > > Our ladies already know. At least, mine does. > > Irv > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 13 19:53:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D6840356 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 19:53:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail175c2.megamailservers.com (mail175c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6EB740356 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 19:53:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.225.50.195] (178.sub-174-237-6.myvzw.com [174.237.6.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail175c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r7E1rVGi017454 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 13 Aug 2013 21:53:33 -0400 References: <96F33D7DA76F4D28899BE6FFFC91F938@hpd530> From: John Hasty Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 21:53:29 -0400 To: Bill Tobin a=fJcPo0xNeZYA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=9sVCtuM/iN7Fv7dzzy/rsA==:17 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=DyMgSWZyTC8Hl-Qsdr8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=CPy-8cpYmbEh0arU:21 a=D0gAT8AlfBTXtm9k:21 a=9sVCtuM/iN7Fv7dzzy/rsA==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: Irv Korey , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] [Kcup] Kastner Cup. Shuttle Service? Nope. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Boooooooo Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2013, at 6:37 PM, "Bill Tobin" wrote: > Brings up the old joke: Who's that lady I saw you with last night. > > That's no lady, that's my wife! > > Couldn't help it. > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irv Korey" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:01 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] [Kcup] Kastner Cup. Shuttle Service? Nope. > > >> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 12:33 PM, wrote: >> >> >>> >>> Oh sure. We'll be racing, changing clutches, etc., and you've got Marty >>> getting acquainted with our ladies? What if they find out we're not so >>> good >>> after all? >>> >>> Bill (Damdinger) >> >> Bill, >> >> Our ladies already know. At least, mine does. >> >> Irv >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 13 20:46:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60BD403DF for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 20:46:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3DF940395 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 20:45:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id CScx1m0040QuhwU57SlWh2; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 02:45:30 +0000 Received: from ComputerPC ([71.60.181.57]) by omta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id CSlW1m00X1EiJYf3NSlWqF; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 02:45:30 +0000 From: "Stutzmans" To: "Joe Alexander" , "marty sukey" References: <21dd0fa3.aad929.14075a2c5ea.Webtop.45@charter.net><4B72FAEB-6FA2-4A37-9B35-5E44D2208FE6@cs.com> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 22:45:43 -0400 s=q20121106; t=1376448330; bh=VG1kmtH3axuwJGgfDDx19ipHEG4aitnOCaTgp2SaIFM=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=Z3a/h2wQHbFhxnw5HrB46qNjyCJQRB5IYViFns7CrqfpLGiiLbcMc2cz2yEjzznuO Hh0qCdHrXPxOLDY/3ZnqgwRubpc1kRiJ+ibr+XyeNDMw7ryXc7EfYZaOPeVdxCtUj/ WX4GIqK7xTAfumYTbHJ9WKa3O0S6BhDOrv/GXw83BSNI5xhBJyYXxQ76602gnR2Zzl QZ//5RNZ4FNJalK8kHdxnTm0liRNAVvhP04PSEika7exmW+1U+KCqTKY5AtWAfD+/N d4Lbt7tAvw1fSF1sazHVtizaS3nd/p5VtiK5EbaejVdLYuOiiiHgi0APx92mYv45GC LZnar2dDUxzsA== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] [Kcup] Kastner Cup. Shuttle Service? Nope. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Marty, There will be 9 of us from WPTA at the hotel, each with a TR. We're not going to get to the track in time for the 8:00 am drivers meeting. Each TR has a passenger seat. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Alexander" To: "marty sukey" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] [Kcup] Kastner Cup. Shuttle Service? Nope. > Marty, et. al. > > The track is about 2 miles, maybe a bit more. > > We are paddocked close to Gate 6 and this makes it additionally convenient > for > getting in and out of the track. > > There is no shuttle service. > > There will be plenty of ladies and cars around, so get they can get > acquainted > and car pool. > > Thursday night and your name tags will help facilitate that process. > > Thanks for asking. > > Regards, > > Joe A. > > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 13, 2013, at 10:47 AM, marty sukey wrote: > >> >> Hi Joe. Question for you. Well two I guess. Just how far from the track >> in > the host hotel? Do you know if they will offer any kind of shuttle > service > to/from the track? Thinking of the ladies, if there was some shuttles > they > would not have to head out so early when the participants have to get > there > for drivers meetings, setting thing up and stuff. >> >> Marty > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/stutzmans@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 13 20:54:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B67ED403C7 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 20:54:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D8040396 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 20:54:47 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=qQzwiqtRyqXlG37sndYw+g==:17 a=f_zTwbJnMVIA:10 a=UgPH62ED04wA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=lR8grKsKFPkA:10 a=j6Td7E-tlZuEjqAuP8sA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=IzU3fnrfPLQA:10 a=mfZO4Y3D6s8A:10 a=qQzwiqtRyqXlG37sndYw+g==:117 Received: from [166.137.123.144] ([166.137.123.144:36286] helo=[10.75.68.135]) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 2A/43-05415-771FA025; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 02:54:47 +0000 References: <21dd0fa3.aad929.14075a2c5ea.Webtop.45@charter.net> <4B72FAEB-6FA2-4A37-9B35-5E44D2208FE6@cs.com> <8A66494ED12A4F66B2D9F6E59941B72C@ComputerPC> From: Bob Kramer Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 21:54:44 -0500 To: Stutzmans Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] Hotel room available hot Kastner Cup. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have a two bedroom suite with kitchen reserved at the Osthoff for Thursday thru Sunday that I will not be using. Before I cancel and pay the cancellation fee does anyone want it? Bob Kramer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 14 06:01:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34EAD403EB for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 06:01:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C78D403D0 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 06:01:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-108-16-249-182.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [108.16.249.182]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.07(7.0.4.27.6) 64bit (built Jun 21 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0MRI0033ZS0UMB40@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 12:01:32 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-08-14_04:2013-08-14,2013-08-14,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=15 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1308140057 References: <21dd0fa3.aad929.14075a2c5ea.Webtop.45@charter.net> <4B72FAEB-6FA2-4A37-9B35-5E44D2208FE6@cs.com> <8A66494ED12A4F66B2D9F6E59941B72C@ComputerPC> <385FF51C-730F-48CC-A31A-04FEF526DBC5@austin.rr.com> From: SCOTT JANZEN Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 08:01:30 -0400 To: Bob Kramer Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Hotel room available hot Kastner Cup. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net What's the cost? Anyone want to split with me? Scott janzen. Gt6 Sent from my mobile device On Aug 13, 2013, at 10:54 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: > I have a two bedroom suite with kitchen reserved at the Osthoff for Thursday > thru Sunday that I will not be using. Before I cancel and pay the cancellation > fee does anyone want it? > > Bob Kramer > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 14 06:29:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25636403EE for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 06:29:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F85403D0 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 06:25:14 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=qQzwiqtRyqXlG37sndYw+g==:17 a=f_zTwbJnMVIA:10 a=DGU9xc5OVd0A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=AEI98zyvCPYA:10 a=HHGDD-5mAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=DyMgSWZyTC8Hl-Qsdr8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=i1zE5R4R5dEA:10 a=qQzwiqtRyqXlG37sndYw+g==:117 Received: from [166.137.123.144] ([166.137.123.144:48523] helo=[10.75.68.135]) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 70/A5-15971-7277B025; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 12:25:13 +0000 References: <21dd0fa3.aad929.14075a2c5ea.Webtop.45@charter.net> <4B72FAEB-6FA2-4A37-9B35-5E44D2208FE6@cs.com> <8A66494ED12A4F66B2D9F6E59941B72C@ComputerPC> <385FF51C-730F-48CC-A31A-04FEF526DBC5@austin.rr.com> From: Bob Kramer Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 07:25:09 -0500 To: SCOTT JANZEN Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Hotel room available hot Kastner Cup. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Scott It was $198 a night plus tax. I think they also have convertible couches in the living room. There is one respondent ahead of you deciding at this point, but he would have a single room to give up if that would help you maybe that would work. Bob Kramer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2013, at 7:01 AM, SCOTT JANZEN wrote: > What's the cost? Anyone want to split with me? > Scott janzen. Gt6 > > Sent from my mobile device > > On Aug 13, 2013, at 10:54 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: > >> I have a two bedroom suite with kitchen reserved at the Osthoff for Thursday >> thru Sunday that I will not be using. Before I cancel and pay the cancellation >> fee does anyone want it? >> >> Bob Kramer >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 14 08:38:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02AC3403EB for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 08:38:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d03.mx.aol.com (omr-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E2840323 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 08:38:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.196]) by omr-d03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6478E700D0E58 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 10:38:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id DA7FAE000122 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 10:38:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 09:38:01 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1376491086; bh=PrZsCTmQLbOC2+TxQ/OBeXGr274b4yoGccgqJsrBLYY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=wUj9kv6Mq6P8qr4hbF13TfS0H592OlMi81ON7isyvmgWcyQ4I8uL+VdeEvbxHAiFn DgdO5uv0Zjz8fcyjY/Q88y+mtSSOxkkAI+Kej8QdomkOyGUUU8JxAkikOGK8jZA27E O1qLThyk9DV+SESiQsTwxFL/b+4jwJgNP4gv8Zz0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c4520b964d27da Subject: [Fot] Jack Wheeler is looking for later TR4 head for his TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Jack is going to refresh his street TR3A this winter and has asked me if I know where one is. At one time this SCCA National Champ was going to join us at KCup. I need to confirm that. Thanks. Joe A _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 14 10:36:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1C7403E4 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 10:36:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m03.mx.aol.com (omr-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFCCE403D7 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 10:36:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.196]) by omr-m03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 44A3C70036212 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 12:36:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id E9AFDE0000B5 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 12:36:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 11:36:40 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1376498206; bh=DjEvKSauJpNreoa5nqs3MXTGQfoEiygyT273DsaGlE4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=yP9vu0NjFMSKNOchLfHufzshhMomdbqGmeiT2oIe7oZiQcw2jPqAQa6q+uu3lAdNn 7eZ1yTixc+cAcfyRGkD4ksAhjBqr1ir0hlyT5NXmPB17CKboIb8h1wKsrJOYGh6ZgO agrOm6+8mfwxlL1MV+vbN88qfuIeBsmdxjXNL1RY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c4520bb21d10e8 Subject: [Fot] Empty Trailer. Texas to Iowa Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT, Rumor has it that there is an empty trailer coming from somewhere in Texas to Elkader, Iowa. Then it will come to the KCup with a Spitfire on it, before returning to Texas. If anyone has a need to transport something under this scenario, I can find out more details. FOT Tom Chandler sold his vintage Spitfire........ Joe Alexander _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 14 10:51:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D15B403F9 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 10:51:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d01.mx.aol.com (omr-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.252.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 022FC403DA for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 10:45:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.8]) by omr-d01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1B6DA700544F6 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 12:45:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dlc002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dlc002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.182.69]) by mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 9B7DFE000087 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 12:45:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Catpusher@aol.com Full-name: Catpusher Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 12:45:21 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1376498722; bh=s7msumhuAT0+isl1TEiLouASD9LIAQw0XEFnj3gw6WE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VtPwftxYvzewrMV5mg0o65ERAhm/HgVMCzXGDxBgvUW7bkK/6C3/CD84VYS3ctiq3 SmbG1zvODZD7jBCo8/8zDllIb0Duq2BY0PODWPRuq+QUkGI9A5q4uyuijsN2TLNWaN umkY8DE1LFSkzuDh2zohsYmQJ/7ChVRdCe/TiCdM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2908520bb421229a Subject: [Fot] Laguna? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ellie and I have just returned from a trip, but we hope to go to Laguna Friday; any FOT plan to be there? TR Regards, Hardy _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 14 11:06:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E87403FE for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 11:06:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m05.mx.aol.com (omr-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB67403DA for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 11:05:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.130]) by omr-m05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 5AFA8700BD019 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 13:05:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 303C9E000136; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 13:05:52 -0400 (EDT) References: <9c7ae.60e87d26.3f3d0e21@aol.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 12:05:50 -0500 To: "Catpusher@aol.com" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1376499953; bh=lchjVy4uKoZsqjeYuLPB97uhxnB2Uc+lfqfuZvk8100=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=j1LSG7pyh0M3TdJBVz6HdIkE71fNk5P6UDnCJ+pz9cUrrjvWXCt10xL1LMZ9KedQL ZyV44R/iKq21TJ4WyubkLtvFX0XE6S3XSwz3oWQ56NBG4KIqM9WLjjPDT3DMYRZAv8 c9L/gnrYuY0qsbL7ZhpAL2THbPw1YTaTVO56DcR8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d3382520bb8ef1cd0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Laguna? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wish you could make it to Road America. Will you attend Triumphest? Sent from my iPad On Aug 14, 2013, at 11:45 AM, Catpusher@aol.com wrote: > Ellie and I have just returned from a trip, but we hope to go to Laguna > Friday; any FOT plan to be there? > > TR Regards, > > Hardy > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 14 11:14:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1756A403FC for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 11:14:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f175.google.com (mail-ob0-f175.google.com [209.85.214.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3B9403DA for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 11:13:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f175.google.com with SMTP id xn12so12073722obc.6 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 10:13:57 -0700 (PDT) h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=DqZ7kBvBA3uwcHTn/sdKTYwyV3zlH50r6eG3RfTwrv8=; b=Fwi/fpOFKhrwzEX87BmQ/Ded8EXd7B05EjiKkrsI4hX8iTlLfOzRMey6iL0xye2EjD 23zMhes+HTCG8saviHKy49fStViWFs7R7h2qzt6zHS1L52qmkvLPZf0Ehk3tUFuyNFDf 7YQgs2h0A7vwzOdUzDZg3ZE8CNhxolttnjJ6m03y/2wTEi9m5Z0AVOH8f0hiPLIbEoFK 7FYoFkM+/nLA9/nEMs8/SYdYjdLqSbGfzVVuBNkyLRKEYjl29voWmPX3opXDpLNxVyps G5tZtUSJJ2P2Zr5qxIqy9ng1F760M8t1dw0jodWjcyLw9XUMmbWAFoeKmqEyswyTzz6V PTCQ== cg3mr6687951obc.65.1376500437318; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 10:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.7] (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ps5sm47690407oeb.8.2013.08.14.10.13.52 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 14 Aug 2013 10:13:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 12:13:51 -0500 References: <9c7ae.60e87d26.3f3d0e21@aol.com> To: Catpusher@aol.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Laguna? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If you don't see any TR FoT guys, check the Morgan crowd. I think Greg Solow will be there. My friend Piers from Houston is also there with the dark green ex-Arch MacNeil 1961 Morgan Plus 4. Duncan (Texas) On Aug 14, 2013, at 11:45 AM, Catpusher@aol.com wrote: > Ellie and I have just returned from a trip, but we hope to go to Laguna > Friday; any FOT plan to be there? > > TR Regards, > > Hardy > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 14 11:39:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2EE4044E for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 11:39:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B9840441 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 11:39:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.60]) by qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id CebH1m0041HpZEsAAhfCNE; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:39:12 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ChfB1m00h2xZMJ48ahfBwM; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:39:12 +0000 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:39:11 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Catpusher@aol.com s=q20121106; t=1376501952; bh=0pseWUeww87c/GFxJyHJ3IVqUOpn3MymBOJjcSbWGDE=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=spSZ55jlvG18c491r5J9k7WMBm9UjNNT2eexYMdSbSNY8MCOcKwVBwVx8W4nhJKNw xUfKIAif8pKV8KCj8RX6vK5VMZYmcYcunDgyzbkBEC8LBYzg6+qwQGZYRrSsKCEa4u J4Qv4LeDXhqjkGCJnSKmp61qG2gqj2wkuspP4K3rRXCur+77sSDeVwW0PyMBs4m5cT h6D5zpVrsKYcNuBaLjZO59Fecdpwx1WPv/L7OM3REro4ZSknp5cbCkK52Vl8rfPgh6 P/eG43W8XpWmRNolacb1wf4bwi7XuJRyOUE6qZN/MxqgbUKnESMDgZW0uE0DGw04VH 3H/okgaxyZgCA== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Laguna? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Hardy, I'll be there and I'll look for you and Ellie. I'd bring the TR3 down if I could get it in the paddock. Perhaps Friday would be the day to try. Numbers and all might get me right in. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Catpusher@aol.com To: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 9:45:21 AM Subject: [Fot] Laguna? Ellie and I have just returned from a trip, but we hope to go to Laguna Friday; any FOT plan to be there? TR Regards, Hardy _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 14 17:30:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F5140451 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:30:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm29-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm29-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24EA540445 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:29:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.101.128] by nm29.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Aug 2013 23:29:44 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.251] by tm16.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Aug 2013 23:29:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1043.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Aug 2013 23:29:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 86766 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Aug 2013 23:29:44 -0000 s=s1024; t=1376522984; bh=4ag9kdCpdWW+QtJDE3+5iZaoJsWOzhZydG8RsUNZLyA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PBNuxCAb7vJ7pT7Xp2tFX/n9GRO9XPVIeGRCcY8nBz2xCSkMGtoFmT12UUbr3RQSss61ffgQ/SPNKZqDumcWS+MNXJqqmildrWpGP8gubvbUoCLLj88br2tLUvvYKGjuvdmx1aF46SurYewVQ6sEiSR9zt72dXuxkk74GeEagWU= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CpUoJcwyF6gIlCTTrcVAfphMD8pfdflN+AnDec+vp1HnlASN3FmO8fxiBftAkQwJQqvluAheZax/SU8DvD4bRLsJGTa+0jqMGO8yQETDQwAjHubqCq+82NxFGRphuSsR02WcfoQ6TqKKoTfL0P17Ix/TV4WgQMSNPmRBkTB7UTc=; .G.zKbobjn9L4VDhoLDdeINakDfnfESD6M531X8Rlv0LFiZ4XctOJ59EKpBK C2w_Vi_96R6U5t6BleMJhG5Ixg77ex5CHv3jEjesrnLIfnASSDs5aKg6U0Fg x7USQaZF1FD1EqWOf5lH9uP.UAOTLPviFP_YY7axSePVD7Lg9UXQk9vmdp2E Vx8iBTHEngLHeHQNxZ0iKQfv2KeCacaDZxxsldCuvn7tiBmAO_91wTAgsTR5 NbI5AvL4HNtgrdmfF9k5DjLuJJ6MMbmRULAMPf2If5PeNyk6I0exad5znBqQ KnQI7UyOyrOrV8HeL0q8k.QB7wpNShRnGwL5aVoO961KDz3wEM6mTTQ3kT.D XDCGgDovnKwkPgUO.aoIs0Py0qAeuRtQgFUCrmfmS1E4fp56eNngYPUh4XUr cbkgnlJnBiL2Nye_nBRhKQM5LsN7dfqEusTPeP1ye1p3MV5W14U3VdCmqz0s VrfE_XMYMgPXBsZCeqYFus9PS5YNi9iKWowFQPDyWRvJZPV0478IDGaVe44T NQb.NAd3Xs7zKmm3YON1lz9baCAO4AmsoI8mS Received: from [70.198.8.106] by web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 16:29:43 PDT SSBhbSBsb29raW5nIGZvciBhIHNldCBvZiB0aXJlcyBmb3IgbXkgU3BpdGZpcmUuIEkgdXNlIGl0IG1vc3RseSBhcyBhIGRhaWx5IGRyaXZlciwgYnV0IGF1dG8gY3Jvc3Mgd2l0aCBpdCBhcyB3ZWxsLiBUaGUgdGlyZXMgdGhhdCBhcmUgb24gaXQgbm93IG1lYXN1cmUgMTU1LzgwUi8xMyBhbmQgd2VyZSBvbmx5IHN1cHBvc2VkIHRvIGJlIHNob3Agcm9sbGVycy4gMiB5ZWFycyBsYXRlciwgSSBhbSBsb29raW5nIGFnYWluLiBUaGUgc2hvcHMgYXJvdW5kIGhlcmUgaGF2ZSBqdW5rLCBzbyB3aGF0IGtpbmQgZG8BMAEBAQE- Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 16:29:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Shawn Frank To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Tires for a Spitfire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I am looking for a set of tires for my Spitfire. I use it mostly as a daily driver, but auto cross with it as well. The tires that are on it now measure 155/80R/13 and were only supposed to be shop rollers. 2 years later, I am looking again. The shops around here have junk, so what kind do you all recommend? Thanks in advance! Shawn Frank Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 14 20:04:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D2440518 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 20:04:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8138C40440 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 20:03:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b%11]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 21:03:45 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: "fot@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: J-type overdrive reluctant to disengage Thread-Index: Ac6ZW6v4L+j1r63xQz2Ulgml9/p2zg== Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 02:03:44 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US Content-ID: <1229561E8E2CA3488ABACBF3669E583A@mccarty-law.com> Subject: [Fot] J-type overdrive reluctant to disengage Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net So I have my new J-type overdrive trans in the Spit and took it out down the back road near my house tonight. The overdrive engages and sometimes disengages. But a lot of the time it remains in overdrive despite flipping the switch off. The trouble shooting section of the manual lists several possible causes (none of which I like because they sound like removal of the trans). Sticking solenoid, sticking cone clutch, clogged control orifice, faulty wiring. I wouldn't think wiring is the issue if it works right some of the time. Any chance this relates to running it at lower revs than I would on track? Freshly rebuilt box from Quantum Mechanics, John Esposito. Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 14 20:39:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371F24044A for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 20:39:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279CD4042E for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 20:38:29 -0600 (MDT) a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:17 a=a1-zNaUMPu0A:10 a=99guUQEQX9IA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=bN73fpoFDqwA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=MJIo3LPEAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=-2NxopsTcy50KCNV3DkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=LPw0h76ZFAwA:10 a=ba-_3Pl-r2EA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=IeVFYImMg6QA:10 a=dBOzsIjnUuddtTBVujiyHA==:117 Received: from [75.86.207.181] ([75.86.207.181:62933] helo=HPLaptop) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id F7/AE-15971-32F3C025; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 02:38:28 +0000 From: "Steve Yott" To: "'Barr, Scott'" , References: Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 21:38:18 -0500 Thread-Index: AQHZpDh2SofU8kBIkTF2uOy8xmr+QJl/ddSw Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] J-type overdrive reluctant to disengage Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Scott< I would agree that it is not an electrical issue. In order of ease in troubleshooting: 1- The solenoid is fairly reliable in a J-Type but I have seen a couple of them stick in the "on" position after power is removed. This is a not good situation because you could have the overdrive engage in reverse and destroy the overdrive. The best way to isolate this issue is with a pressure gauge and ensure that the pressure drops to under 40 lbs with the power removed from the solenoid. 2- Clogged release orifice is very possible but yes the overdrive would need to come out. For a race car this should have been opened up to 1-mm in diameter for faster release of the overdrive. This can be seen with a pressure gauge. 3- Sticking cone clutch.... this is a very definite possibility and is very common if the proper finish is created on the brake ring upon overhaul. If needed you can remove the unit and bring it down a bit south to Silver Lake, WI and I would be glad to tear it down and fix it. I also have a powered test stand for working on these units. Steve Yott -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Barr, Scott Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 9:04 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] J-type overdrive reluctant to disengage So I have my new J-type overdrive trans in the Spit and took it out down the back road near my house tonight. The overdrive engages and sometimes disengages. But a lot of the time it remains in overdrive despite flipping the switch off. The trouble shooting section of the manual lists several possible causes (none of which I like because they sound like removal of the trans). Sticking solenoid, sticking cone clutch, clogged control orifice, faulty wiring. I wouldn't think wiring is the issue if it works right some of the time. Any chance this relates to running it at lower revs than I would on track? Freshly rebuilt box from Quantum Mechanics, John Esposito. Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 14 21:12:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4687B40518 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 21:12:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B93C4042E for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 21:11:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.90]) by qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id CqqY1m0021wpRvQ5ArBuKv; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 03:11:54 +0000 Received: from sz0058.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id CrBu1m0042xV5no3erBu9x; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 03:11:54 +0000 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 03:11:54 +0000 (UTC) From: fogbro1@comcast.net To: Scott Barr s=q20121106; t=1376536314; bh=fJNTcWcCe3Tb16wVSxV5CL5FkCRtcUAmc64SYsH5I8I=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=VCmye337BiCLgDrcJMmrZKohgsJv1mcWWipIfF4MF1UNV+ZjGnnOE1x8sHRPfH/uh Ad4xLIUf7ezwUXbxs8Jp8dehTqa1U57xd8xnKz/Vz4STAdyMsXMA9k5CSIt715l/Mz MEBAN9LuuYGI9I6NvrMdJyfh1CGA6fUX7NJwlEWjyQQ8wlaw6sP5BZten5ksLcRisN V2GIku6CYR/3qrfy1hXhLhRq+DOzAxBGU0xBgrkDRe2AYXO2saYeuI+SO4e+s+shJj yLTiEKLsKFf7lEKGesBSC0SzuZmiMhkFQ1Fg63WipO1lLpOGvevc0VRFM6hMzQy1Cm 1235e6DS3vqgw== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] J-type overdrive reluctant to disengage Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Scott, I've had two 'A' types with a similar problem. Both were fixed by changing to Red Line MT90 lube. Ed Woods _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 14 21:57:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76AED4051B for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 21:57:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm21-vm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm21-vm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04AF940421 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 21:56:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.165] by nm21.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2013 03:56:56 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.242] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2013 03:56:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1013.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2013 03:56:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 24374 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Aug 2013 03:56:55 -0000 s=s1024; t=1376539015; bh=rhM4D5X75Bg5tP/ySSdPYnVJPi4uPKjBhuqUuBEiAhE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oK4KE7rufXtVZc9qBReX9dPVSrz2gPJOOHNfszG9O/zE651W8wKM49rsRjzi6ot5EUATshVm3epO1nbkiQHCa1G802EZ5AT93huxgW28JeiSmOLzqMncZR1tPq+amNk6YTQ09tgcYdk6duCaZ5VgGLD+memCxO4xLPX+OQxemUE= s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WF5v+oph57UYYp1rBqccaR+4GFB9YSRVpLkVIxFWAKa0fqmAbzc8kWyvk+lq/LQu9KMDL2BWiZR9rXaItGcMVzlepFDT71tMfA1HnDY+UKFmoswtXtIfnz92idPdBBqI/gwoRoyXpbMES7VhUef2ZFlA2nS3mU8jSBsRdPC+EyA=; RuUq2u2__w6acekUU.UKSz8cSnXneBDaIvom41ddGZ04sNXs683tTJDlk.bR ci19ci4VqY.AMpPEVXg5AjoaZ.5mnACwKSgU0mqDqDZsFVHROj03j9zlROCS sBN_XQjNztIcHHGLbhaMWdVTD_DjoipknZEoaOSXbfKqN1EpVe7Rgl0iVAlg owaaET5kEdF3KguVC9BwVDz9EjlFthkmHFKeWilJ2QVXpVHt3B4MMyhlvMLd ShkNsD7WV_G6FGQERceY42gelXHToI7mGoHCbvYgMoJxDFgl4HA3Z.jYbf6R 5jNHQQNjhmIj1datvm7a0V9r7Tof2NTshWy2jIxH1p8q.9kHEpff8P16NjQU VIHojssiX4HyL_7wvlcyykVHoVXaWP0CD7NL7AZ__f4GALbNZJU3nij5Iy4o 9bUF043ZP6WczlmTWbr.Ng9UXiNX0WO1cVviaM1AJU31dnS1uOrcJb7fioUY Rj6sLYUnj4nHtMoTowIzf2zh8Yq2J3ZJ1GPhXkOc0aHSvGxW4uNF5soJYREc zvw_FF35qTSvV4slK22VqlS9phdDF0vD6UfrZnTGhDqD4lHFLj5N2vq5cD8i 1ThvrqMEamlKS9VwANe714zWpjQbBiK_U_mpdk9h9E0zDtcbltJ.dK_h4ToB zC.PdVA-- Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web181405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 20:56:54 PDT U2NvdHQ6CkVzcG9zaXRvIGJ1aWxkcyB0aGVtIHZlcnkgdGlnaHQuIFlvdSBuZWVkIHRvIGRyYWluIHRoZSB0cmFubnkgYW5kIE8vRCBhbmQgcmVmaWxsIHdpdGggUmVkbGluZSBNVEwuIFVzZSBNVEwsIG5vdCBhbnkgb2YgdGhlIHdlaWdodCBzcGVjaWZpYyBNVCBSZWRsaW5lcy4gVGhleSBoYXZlIG90aGVyIHVuZGVzaXJhYmxlIGFkZGl0aXZlcy4gSW4gZmFjdCwgdGhlIGJvdHRsZSBsYWJlbCBzdGF0ZXMgdGhhdC4gVGhpcyBoYXMgZml4ZWQgZXZlcnkgb25lIG9mIHRoZSB0aWdodCBPL0QncyBJL3dlIGhhdmUBMAEBAQE- References: Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 20:56:54 -0700 (PDT) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: "Barr, Scott" , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] J-type overdrive reluctant to disengage Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Scott: Esposito builds them very tight. You need to drain the tranny and O/D and refill with Redline MTL. Use MTL, not any of the weight specific MT Redlines. They have other undesirable additives. In fact, the bottle label states that. This has fixed every one of the tight O/D's I/we have found...right Larry Y? -Ed- ________________________________ From: "Barr, Scott" To: "fot@autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 9:03 PM Subject: [Fot] J-type overdrive reluctant to disengage So I have my new J-type overdrive trans in the Spit and took it out down the back road near my house tonight. The overdrive engages and sometimes disengages. But a lot of the time it remains in overdrive despite flipping the switch off. The trouble shooting section of the manual lists several possible causes (none of which I like because they sound like removal of the trans). Sticking solenoid, sticking cone clutch, clogged control orifice, faulty wiring. I wouldn't think wiring is the issue if it works right some of the time. Any chance this relates to running it at lower revs than I would on track? Freshly rebuilt box from Quantum Mechanics, John Esposito. Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 15 08:02:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1404042C for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 08:02:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56DD4006F for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 07:58:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from AR5J3QR6XV (cpe-70-113-116-224.austin.res.rr.com [70.113.116.224]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Lreg1-1W6M5i2Rll-013hM7; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 09:58:34 -0400 From: "FoodDude" To: "'Shawn Frank'" , "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <1376522983.86491.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 08:58:34 -0500 Thread-Index: AQJ+WxWdawmd+gNj1YQgRk+VIC5+qJg2yMDQ Content-Language: en-us TSMT/iUSNNf0cK2Y+wAv9nxxpMT60JyyRdTuXw2mPM1vwqjx3p a6Yyf3FNjcukqhSlodpmLgVTLo+oW4Q162Q5hPsZv9q/m2jVL0 a0nMBKjEZw6uM3TXTZ4Qsp33pmUdcx+nZjYYnSXczlFBhm1pi8 9I/fa4pCmpa10ZZbU6fLZdQQE6kPDMR+qJ5JMbS7NjOJdMhZYh Djj3pv+MN1VmOVrACoIWFUDxziApknnPo33V1drAgJsnJIloYB dLxSpUZ/fbiiEJQzFnVSXyEErta/QcV5DCJsLbHnFlyLGIxsXh reERefBT3C2gL0JeqKKig7u2yMqSl1dX6Qni/UeeP Subject: Re: [Fot] Tires for a Spitfire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I had good success with Toyo RE1's, but they are no longer made in 13". There are a few new sets floating around, but check MFG date. I now run Toyo R888, 1st test in a couple of weeks. Another FoT is running Hoosier Street TD's on his Spit. If you buy Toyos, do not pay extra for heat cycling, as Toyo already does this at the factory. Good luck! Dave Foreman #24 BRG 1964 Spitfire (FP in vintage, HP in SCCA) #22 Green 1970 TR6 Chump Mimosa 1975 TR6 street car -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Shawn Frank Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 6:30 PM To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Tires for a Spitfire I am looking for a set of tires for my Spitfire. I use it mostly as a daily driver, but auto cross with it as well. The tires that are on it now measure 155/80R/13 and were only supposed to be shop rollers. 2 years later, I am looking again. The shops around here have junk, so what kind do you all recommend? Thanks in advance! Shawn Frank Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dforeman@fooddude.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6577 - Release Date: 08/14/13 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 15 08:53:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E27204040A for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 08:53:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED94403E0 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 08:53:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b%11]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 09:53:30 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: "fot@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: J-type overdrive reluctant to disengage Thread-Index: Ac6ZW6v4L+j1r63xQz2Ulgml9/p2zgAa22qg Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 14:53:28 +0000 References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Subject: Re: [Fot] J-type overdrive reluctant to disengage Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wow, thanks everybody! Lots of good info and suggestions. I have a few things to try out and will report back. I am at Road America this weekend with Midwestern Council and will see what happens. If I can't get it to work I'll have to R&R it before the KasCup. Scott -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Barr, Scott Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 9:04 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] J-type overdrive reluctant to disengage So I have my new J-type overdrive trans in the Spit and took it out down the back road near my house tonight. The overdrive engages and sometimes disengages. But a lot of the time it remains in overdrive despite flipping the switch off. The trouble shooting section of the manual lists several possible causes (none of which I like because they sound like removal of the trans). Sticking solenoid, sticking cone clutch, clogged control orifice, faulty wiring. I wouldn't think wiring is the issue if it works right some of the time. Any chance this relates to running it at lower revs than I would on track? Freshly rebuilt box from Quantum Mechanics, John Esposito. Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 15 09:19:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0805B4040B for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 09:19:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB767403E9 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 09:19:43 -0600 (MDT) a=yr/eJ6S8SHGIc+/JdDlNag==:17 a=zkYuSOkxadoA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=MWHyz-glFTwA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=rpB1CqzKAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=tb0cFMZZNqKaSmqHoLwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=ztUPYMzusQ0A:10 a=vIprWz3EQol4GDVt:21 a=oNu-YxOopQ8LY_Av:21 a=yr/eJ6S8SHGIc+/JdDlNag==:117 Received: from [67.255.13.17] ([67.255.13.17:52682] helo=Shop) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 15/85-25552-E81FC025; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:19:42 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: "'FoodDude'" , "'Shawn Frank'" , "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <1376522983.86491.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <095b01ce99bf$8ac3e3e0$a04baba0$@fooddude.com> Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 11:19:45 -0400 Thread-Index: AQJ+WxWdawmd+gNj1YQgRk+VIC5+qJg2yMDQgAAWpMA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Tires for a Spitfire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hoosier Street TD's are not road legal as I recall. It's what I run on the track. Russ -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of FoodDude Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 9:59 AM To: 'Shawn Frank'; 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Tires for a Spitfire I had good success with Toyo RE1's, but they are no longer made in 13". There are a few new sets floating around, but check MFG date. I now run Toyo R888, 1st test in a couple of weeks. Another FoT is running Hoosier Street TD's on his Spit. If you buy Toyos, do not pay extra for heat cycling, as Toyo already does this at the factory. Good luck! Dave Foreman #24 BRG 1964 Spitfire (FP in vintage, HP in SCCA) #22 Green 1970 TR6 Chump Mimosa 1975 TR6 street car -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Shawn Frank Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 6:30 PM To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Tires for a Spitfire I am looking for a set of tires for my Spitfire. I use it mostly as a daily driver, but auto cross with it as well. The tires that are on it now measure 155/80R/13 and were only supposed to be shop rollers. 2 years later, I am looking again. The shops around here have junk, so what kind do you all recommend? Thanks in advance! Shawn Frank Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dforeman@fooddude.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6577 - Release Date: 08/14/13 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 15 09:50:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C6440410 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 09:50:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from e8.ny.us.ibm.com (e8.ny.us.ibm.com [32.97.182.138]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071AA403EA for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 09:48:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from /spool/local by e8.ny.us.ibm.com with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! 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In NY, Sam's Club has them in stock, or did this spring when I bought my last set. Street TDs are DOT approved but not designed for street use. mike h G. Michael Harmuth Software Engineer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 15 10:21:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25ED840414 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 10:21:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D249A403EA for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 10:21:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [162.187.70.139] (mc75636d0.tmodns.net [208.54.86.199]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MLeTz-1VApF100rj-000vas; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 12:21:07 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 11:20:42 -0500 From: The Fooddude To: Spitfire Racing , 'Shawn Frank' , 'Friends of Triumph' PHL6yX8l2TrtFFf02T61B0r2BpE6/F8tiFvoac3Tu1I2j12fgy dv0H3cojkIOdPp92/hW0EBJUX8St7PVYNeoacbF3/g9U0kAOho r+Wm+6VQOkfwAp+297V1fFvZuUSGuAVTE50BXxUKHVyDjJ4Qmg HR+YYnIQO9LQxLId4BvUEtksrq7hMh/SStu+obHPdob/qy83si kABfhXVEgO7GtRw5bKzT8rXlLIRo8nK6QLVSNweyAblx9s4TqV KcQCtYHQlgc+O2LrYtIrv9URRfkO/209+oE04hPJIKHYeLB+ZF HuXbY69A3iCxVOQzl4VzWchNA2Ejrl0DeK0qikscIBQdwnsTLv lcuUG9Sjt02i+yxM4c458GhCVBLg/1dtPU= Subject: Re: [Fot] Tires for a Spitfire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Correction on toyos, should read RA1 not RE1. Sent via and typos courtesy wireless handheld device. -------- Original message -------- From: Spitfire Racing Date: 08/15/2013 10:19 AM (GMT-06:00) To: 'FoodDude' ,'Shawn Frank' ,'Friends of Triumph' Subject: RE: [Fot] Tires for a Spitfire Hoosier Street TD's are not road legal as I recall. It's what I run on the track. Russ -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of FoodDude Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 9:59 AM To: 'Shawn Frank'; 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Tires for a Spitfire I had good success with Toyo RE1's, but they are no longer made in 13". There are a few new sets floating around, but check MFG date.B I now run Toyo R888, 1st test in a couple of weeks. Another FoT is running Hoosier Street TD's on his Spit. If you buy Toyos, do not pay extra for heat cycling, as Toyo already does this at the factory. Good luck! Dave Foreman #24 BRG 1964 Spitfire (FP in vintage, HP in SCCA) #22 Green 1970 TR6 Chump Mimosa 1975 TR6 street car -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Shawn Frank Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 6:30 PM To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Tires for a Spitfire I am looking for a set of tires for my Spitfire. I use it mostly as a daily driver, but auto cross with it as well. The tires that are on it now measure 155/80R/13 and were only supposed to be shop rollers. 2 years later, I am looking again. The shops around here have junk, so what kind do you all recommend? Thanks in advance! Shawn Frank Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dforeman@fooddude.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6577 - Release Date: 08/14/13 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 15 10:36:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F14240419 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 10:36:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from ex.dunnwalshholdings.com (ex.dunnwalshholdings.com [173.219.117.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A204C403EA for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 10:32:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::6cea:93a1:26a:8c3c]) by TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::6cea:93a1:26a:8c3c%15]) with mapi; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 09:32:01 -0700 From: Edward Dunn To: 'Shawn Frank' , 'Friends of Triumph' Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 09:31:47 -0700 Thread-Topic: [Fot] Tires for a Spitfire Thread-Index: AQJ+WxWdawmd+gNj1YQgRk+VIC5+qJg2yMDQgAAqFoA= References: <1376522983.86491.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <095b01ce99bf$8ac3e3e0$a04baba0$@fooddude.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: Re: [Fot] Tires for a Spitfire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've got Toyo R888 on both my Spitfire & GT6 now. Both are race cars, but I think it would be an excellent street tire. The Spitfire has 185's on it, and the GT6 has 205's. Edward Dunn West Coast Vintage Racing 2240 Encinitas Blvd., Suite D101 Encinitas CA 92024 760-492-3814 www.vintageracing.us [cid:image001.jpg@01CE999A.43293370] -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of FoodDude Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 6:59 AM To: 'Shawn Frank'; 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Tires for a Spitfire I had good success with Toyo RE1's, but they are no longer made in 13". There are a few new sets floating around, but check MFG date. I now run Toyo R888, 1st test in a couple of weeks. Another FoT is running Hoosier Street TD's on his Spit. If you buy Toyos, do not pay extra for heat cycling, as Toyo already does this at the factory. Good luck! Dave Foreman #24 BRG 1964 Spitfire (FP in vintage, HP in SCCA) #22 Green 1970 TR6 Chump Mimosa 1975 TR6 street car -----Original Message----- [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Shawn Frank Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 6:30 PM To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Tires for a Spitfire I am looking for a set of tires for my Spitfire. I use it mostly as a daily driver, but auto cross with it as well. The tires that are on it now measure 155/80R/13 and were only supposed to be shop rollers. 2 years later, I am looking again. The shops around here have junk, so what kind do you all recommend? Thanks in advance! Shawn Frank Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dforeman@fooddude.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6577 - Release Date: 08/14/13 _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 15 12:03:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD784041D for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 12:03:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s30.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s30.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.105]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ABFA40413 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 12:02:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W43 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s30.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 15 Aug 2013 11:02:45 -0700 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 14:02:44 -0400 FILETIME=[A4C07250:01CE99E1] Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Shirt Payment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We are trying to wrap things up on the K.Cup shirt orders and there are some stragglers that have not paid Ted yet. PLEASE get this taken care of ASAP. We are trying to make this as easy as possible between printing, direct distribution, distribution from Ted to me and then distribution at the track. I really really don't want to be getting involved with payment collection at the track so please contact Ted if you have not paid yet. Thanks, Marty _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 16 11:42:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719184053D for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 11:42:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm18-vm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm18-vm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EACC4052A for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 11:41:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.156] by nm18.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Aug 2013 17:41:01 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.140] by tm2.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Aug 2013 17:41:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1016.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Aug 2013 17:41:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 97121 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Aug 2013 17:41:01 -0000 s=s1024; t=1376674861; bh=nFn3nZSQ3AfLZMQ4TxxZYj4wVZSkxM4L40Gi0jsUEbs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6MF/2+bTdCmy4Ta8oRT4nRlcPXdUzuez1k7VEHKRkHLJdheYKqr/a7IgexBUq5eT+AJ80kNjUr6uNfyzGqcDw93W54Jb0O5gK7oT/5VkYRYX1wICFdAryhxgyyErFbs6xP3jr4bgvd+S2rQ6pCE4EQxAtDCKzPPUxdLOCNXU/xs= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=C9CqVEIxJj1y441ZdJQQBPL6TgiTiCIAF9TWBnas9eG6a1jeQC7IHWyov2VJszDb9Cfq/MRwjISwlL2zhmiklmBEC0TEW2/3pQSuVhBT3mrq2iX9VwoIwM5Yn67cHxAO243MN+L7vWxNLEAgm3A5/IW2wQpjC3U9xz8vfpA589I=; AffmRjaCFC0hmu424OWQFOXL2f4xI9aRqqfBye8jittVVJ2iC1KRIKHU7KxQ e8traC_1JTT0GVkKmnmtwNFrnEBuMl9WX9mpVIzy9tewB.UqhNlH3C9z.oni d6JP2n_2BAN1cOJo2at.8xs471fma4B6gGbdqdknHAeQmn9Qkc1f9FE_gsPN yznLXrTPTcVTGWNMU0SHDvRud5sk3lwGXWuz71io2nePiUFzOYDEjFEhea5U IcWoVFJPx_78gV9UuIy9dffK2l94QC6c7jKzlRc2mTBOz5PNWgeD_dI15WL8 S8MmSIm6zh5FbafnsZttQDMr2iY3FL3_cQkx3CLqz0MU48KuqzyDoOmhnTCe PcRDBSoABtEmVUE6O9ff1br0k_Et4JiTRDTb0rTKUWwsTUgW4oP7zGJzsB1E cjduvqYBnXl1HvIMJnxlGh55ypluoLyuI.VZDl7gUqyOyP_XSlUOVZ5sFo.5 ha6ULOQ4TtmaO1ne31PD0cpNv3TX1Dq9GC0vrjFCD7UbFF7rQVqiPhsw- Received: from [68.165.86.214] by web182206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 10:41:01 PDT aGFzIHRoZSBsb2NhdGlvbiBmb3IgMjAxNCBLYXN0bmVyIEt1cCBiZWVuIGFubm91bmNlZD8KCkJvYmJ5IFdoaXRlaGVhZAEwAQEBAQ-- Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 10:41:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] 2014 Kastener Kup? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net has the location for 2014 Kastner Kup been announced? Bobby Whitehead _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 16 11:47:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 584964054C for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 11:47:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.159]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA384052E for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 11:47:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Charly (unknown [97.126.74.225]) (Authenticated sender: charly@mitchelplumbing.com) by smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D1BDE5D80BF; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:47:08 -0500 (CDT) From: "Charly Mitchel" To: "Bobby Whitehead" , "FoT Triumph" References: <1376674861.51798.YahooMailNeo@web182206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 10:47:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [Fot] 2014 Kastener Kup? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I heard it was in the east again, maybe Texas. Not the west though like we thought it might be. Northwest? Charly Mitchel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobby Whitehead" To: "FoT Triumph" Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 10:41 AM Subject: [Fot] 2014 Kastener Kup? > has the location for 2014 Kastner Kup been announced? > > Bobby Whitehead > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 16 12:06:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256D040560 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:06:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d03.mx.aol.com (omr-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663C040534 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:00:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by omr-d03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 16CC7700D39B5 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 14:00:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dsa005a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dsa005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.252.81]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id DCA93E000081 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 14:00:32 -0400 (EDT) From: KENMUN@aol.com Full-name: KENMUN Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 14:00:32 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1376676033; bh=e975IjCk9lRQ05VrUeJ1Ok4TiBGMuZSVYqaQN1RkZgI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GZp/burwrOTefYQNeRXi1iLNGxbpPuJMzXO+4S57g+YVhhQYNjMyPsDCDVGKs91oE JtkVOmcK7I8ntFzps4xD3vVX/Fl1va26iFr3YPiGSJwObhlbRcpT2wM2GGWGDKrA/j yqSPReyT3WYiLG49uV25bSO9/Chq0EPxGWTnYVnQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2948520e68c02273 Subject: [Fot] good year blue streak, sport car specials, on a tr3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net anyone have experience running these tires on a tr 3. front end settings? pressures? etc? thanks, ken m. vintage tr3 racer, _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 16 12:16:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1636740554 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:16:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com (omr-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258B34054B for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:16:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.197]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1923770000094; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 14:16:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 52F5CE0000B7; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 14:16:33 -0400 (EDT) References: <1376674861.51798.YahooMailNeo@web182206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <6B336D96FECD4994A256E49FAC592CB2@Charly> From: Joe Alexander Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:16:21 -0500 To: Charly Mitchel x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1376676996; bh=36jDKu8DB4E3GNcbZxETJNbbSiQ2pH/RJleG4gb1qQs=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=V5EfJl7bncab3Uc7Tlv3FyZ/h6Bnv/7fX6kpFo3g7JKVGWHayQ3J/tC15fTAa66Y9 UWIjKexn6W3yiNey0NhGiF7uH5c7x0mZh5F0LDWsek+fChrcpsSX/smj3mbzOvSic5 WM2BcFFMZNBiR6Re4niCksuqcjlhAHk+0zYXhmb0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c5520e6c816915 Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] 2014 Kastener Kup? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT/Charly/Bobby, An appeal was sent out several months ago to submit locations for the 2014 Kastner Cup. We had four responses. California, Colorado, Arizona, and Texas. The proposal that was selected was CVAR and the TXFOT. All proposals are appreciated and thoughtfully considered. As a non-organization we do extremely well. Please support CVAR and the TXFOT next May at Eagles Canyon. Part of the selection criteria was to give FOT folks an opportunity to run a KCup that do not always find it easy, due to distance and cost. We also see Dallas\Fort Worth area as a destination location. We can also be sure that it will be well done under the leadership of Bob Kramer. Regards, Joe A. Sent from my iPad On Aug 16, 2013, at 12:47 PM, "Charly Mitchel" wrote: > I heard it was in the east again, maybe Texas. Not the west though like we thought it might be. > Northwest? > > Charly Mitchel > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobby Whitehead" > To: "FoT Triumph" > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 10:41 AM > Subject: [Fot] 2014 Kastener Kup? > > >> has the location for 2014 Kastner Kup been announced? >> >> Bobby Whitehead >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 16 12:29:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8B340552 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:29:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm8.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm24-vm8.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.183]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83CEA40525 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:23:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.159] by nm24.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Aug 2013 18:23:17 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.212] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Aug 2013 18:23:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp101.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Aug 2013 18:23:16 -0000 fqtlTVw7rxdT5F7iWST_U8uAQx..UmkWX4HOWWtNRoBZC4ifSaWnLmHotX4V 2OppfJtxZzuEch8Lwj5UmdzoulFyEwCIbiDWTz71Jm7PJwrcAz_47lclIgro nf3iBLVTp6vZ25LzkXFFC9CXP53kaXAc_Ie1RJ8MNyZWTnM6AKNfpE07C4Zz SvrIey2IEselO1XY59kmfTDf1OGB4BAq7L0gSnHRfbmMBLB0zg3o1HuiJO5C fd4Fs2zRACTcrFxKpXRqV_4IygPBGD0n31VarKo0fIM7nwysS1Y0ZZ7SM6tD xrUTZyZfRrJaWPwFgVtU._ZenZRrV8aEa0m0vG5bZaT_Bmz.q3kGuEWrkpss P44JO8Ube.gP7dRXO.Wb_OQZIkGq4pJRvliwPFEytzSyW56o2EBgE1IeUxAQ Y7X7BdPMmiDT_u4ZUzudg311ch5V3IXlYKgUZSyopOLoSMD7R69pxfxSfU0j jCojvstFoREeRYPhlvuVM73Xd6ZUl4zD.qD65AmQ53SsaFKcVfKJmqledy0e vziRxQQAK5HxpJ8wS44osJBIRFVPO2VRY3R898ZsAgA5BYTS4hphPktGLmQ- - plain) by smtp101.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 2013 11:23:16 -0700 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:23:24 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: EDWARD BARNARD References: <1376539014.18980.YahooMailNeo@web181405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Cc: Sam & Carol Clark , "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] J-type overdrive reluctant to disengage Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, we had a club member who had this problem with an A type rebuilt by Quantum. On Ed's suggest, he went to Redline MTL and I haven't heard anything more about it, so it must have worked. Sam, do you know? Larry On 8/14/2013 10:56 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Scott: > Esposito builds them very tight. You need to drain the tranny and O/D > and refill with Redline MTL. Use MTL, not any of the weight specific MT > Redlines. They have other undesirable additives. In fact, the bottle label > states that. This has fixed every one of the tight O/D's I/we have > found...right Larry Y? > -Ed- > > > ________________________________ > From: > "Barr, Scott" > To: "fot@autox.team.net" > > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 9:03 PM > Subject: [Fot] > J-type overdrive reluctant to disengage > > > So I have my new J-type overdrive > trans in the Spit and took it out down the back road near my house tonight. > The overdrive engages and sometimes disengages. But a lot of the time it > remains in overdrive despite flipping the switch off. > > The trouble shooting > section of the manual lists several possible causes (none of which I like > because they sound like removal of the trans). Sticking solenoid, sticking > cone clutch, clogged control orifice, faulty wiring. > > I wouldn't think wiring > is the issue if it works right some of the time. Any chance this relates to > running it at lower revs than I would on track? > > Freshly rebuilt box from > Quantum Mechanics, John Esposito. > > Scott Barr > McCarty Law LLP > (920) 257-2233 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel@pobox.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 16 12:30:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7357C4052E for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:30:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm16-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm16-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 639A74052A for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:27:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.159] by nm16.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Aug 2013 18:27:00 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.129] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Aug 2013 18:26:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1005.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Aug 2013 18:26:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 81833 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Aug 2013 18:26:59 -0000 s=s1024; t=1376677619; bh=EHzP+EdtFEP+YC22NO2sQ5S9dRkjcnYEb9h5JZvLO+o=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ls9VD9FUdpmLFOT9Y7QZYlMSCt83SsqXM3gwc9VVl14+uZa+kHLo5JOuY9c2Utqd51blF2reVPuk0PnjaUF4LYWnRnMzEBfi98/sqHnXfxq8RbjeA30V6Ju6sa2lnl3c3LNOSbHCzbMYcrfu3ljt0vqvcaa6HH+ssHEDxDYaPBM= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Oxm8SNAkbgQrecgoL/AOTYD2WjpcQmXrvXkLp6DEg1QBiGCMXUAhbNWvRJF0sfhvC5KSSTMvJo3Ju3nE7h0KGYb8IGXrrED5PvUpNxa4cIsFY3EDGPUPLUQB1fpi6R/EXec3p+vQQ68gQaHh5Zna0P1LBmC2l7JktBKUZnrdCv8=; CFpsLIMDrHP6ehe6IrsRf694rN0VRuANndECI5AopUwDjg.ykgAzj.K.GwNf EdMHg2EN30y5HitVzMaa89yvhDWYcjioBRE1fBuD_LjgUaDm4ErfCMYjSlKt mq1Scb2w0NYhBaCnC29ERNIahyPH_Rlsd2e0oguOa7QY1u7hYmaP3m_Qim1N bGwCzsjo.kCDsT9mBguHcGd8Z0r9.zPyZaiC0PEcGNNjMTPDSDC5DwSmlj9k vMDh9n0Se8_tuVvgyq4LihINIy_PUD77qYG7zGgQxQFXn5SZqnjBA9cBKfoG rfKQ4phpcx2LPevV_qKfhtf2uSPnAxTwcipRWbMGvY_VAp8lgLzg5y8Jjr_x zcPBpc_mj3EqUXu63ExYEZ_DCLoYAlPHvAuUQ6oBA.Hb73npd0rgOs3Fkeyz 2py0dsMI8y444tfiAXlQ1X1ov0YrBPq_Ax8qd96t3FXd87glcc6e3hgcGd6Z DVvduRK7CGl0oF8TrJRAJWt2etxAm6zwBVrfVoF_2411VhdBhg9c- Received: from [68.165.86.214] by web182206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 11:26:59 PDT SSB3YXNuJ3Qgc3VyZSB0aGUgbmV3cyBoYWQgYmVlbiBwb3N0ZWQgb3Igc2hhcmVkIGFib3V0IHRoZSAyMDE0IEthc3RuZXIgS3VwLi4uwqAgV2l0aCB0aGF0LCBJIGhhdmUgc29tZSBnb29kIG5ld3MgYW5kIHNvbWUgYmFkIG5ld3MuLi7CoCBGaXJzdCBJIGhhdmUgYmVlbiBhc2tlZCBieSBDVkFSIChDb3JpbnRoaWFuIFZpbnRhZ2UgQXV0byBSYWNpbmcpIHByZXNpZGVudCBHZW9yZ2UgQ3VybCBpZiBJIHdvdWxkIGJlIHRoZSBSYWNlIENoYWlybWFuIGZvciB0aGUgZXZlbnQuIEhhdmluZyBuZXZlciBkb25lIHMBMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 11:26:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] Kastner Kup May 2014 Eagles Canyon Raceway Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I wasn't sure the news had been posted or shared about the 2014 Kastner Kup... With that, I have some good news and some bad news... First I have been asked by CVAR (Corinthian Vintage Auto Racing) president George Curl if I would be the Race Chairman for the event. Having never done so, I was a bit apprehensive but I'm close friends with George and I also have a close friend in CVAR, Steve Coleman, that has chaired the Small Bore Fest 2 years in a row at ECR (Eagles Canyon Raceway) in Decatur Texas. I also have a very good relationship with Maggie Williams who is the management coordinator with ECR. I'm also close to Gregg Rodgers with Pinnacle Autosports where my GT2 is stabled at the track side facility. So, confident I can make it happen I gladly accepted the opportunity to be the CVAR race chairman for the FoT event at ECR in May 2014. Also.. racing budget is exactly that, racing budget, and I'm close to being done on my GT-6+ but not quite there yet. We had the opportunity to register for the COTA (Circuit of the Americas) in Austin Texas in October and that seems to be for feasible and reasonable for me and my family to participate and budget. So, reluctantly , I'm bowing out of the Kastner Kup at Road America this year but promise to give the best experience I can help deliver as the Race Chairman for the 2014 event. Bobby Whitehead CVAR Race Chairman for the F.o.T. 2014 ECR Decatur Texas Event _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 16 12:32:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A606340551 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:32:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm12-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm12-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.246]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78F04006C for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:31:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.159] by nm12.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Aug 2013 18:31:57 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.134] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Aug 2013 18:31:57 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1010.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Aug 2013 18:31:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 19601 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Aug 2013 18:31:57 -0000 s=s1024; t=1376677917; bh=B+8/7R52Wti7EsGlia6d6Vr/cvcqc0LNbmeECRt96Fo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pLEXOxQZV98gBSWx6HGK1XmqeNodbGnOoDV/Wu5ZuQvaSINO5z0Dr8b8kApSM2MMazTh89phMAtSP98LKuqL0j+LD+WF+ayn/GScKHlDpV2bxH39NazHcdQ9AgIEMJfGipxAisiMTRxFbK4DG3eEjR5gfsFAAQqD/E4z4YlBl2E= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=q6vdAnG3hCP9yLqAmkEQhARvmm1lQ/DH6F9U792xOlPUF3nREQMYA+n4ABvazMqSxjFbWgQdqWjNBVKJhAjWtx1envJZKu3QWWC1Gqic2sn9PDl0Byb2YJsDItJY2V083jFnvn+3wOM6NTe7zwNx4R0/AugOTUw49EPavDBT7Fk=; xPKvpiH55IQqWwZdu4RjJ1fFbhoN3BWQJF2vzkoCzyylwLcW9YXUr.HuerRY emDmC2xzyPuNG1fFzHTpqraR._elPkElhjoaiV84zubPlfRg4TEq0YmsSPMP 0d1si.CfT8X5z4V0EvX1zqq1MCjpadVQY460agFbeu0Sm5Tczq7mr4VhOJzq 1xY2P_WKNLbWcENPlCitan4zUywVlZcUXknRNir.dGUe5GfQGFitG1Q1PGvF zaesLW3jBJkO2awf07HUYZonyiB1DINqbZfgIFqtmVQiLSYpSjEpZN5a91m_ 8dxhyunof8rPO86WfqGUkJ7yG8OoNrt9Urk9xCFGSqSI8scLe_E48Irv3SQJ KvVgm8i0Y7Nqbtd.amp2vjLew_1mVb.wfxqVniVSZrh9LzDWljDYVSfPjK3k Y.yG85me4jXBQmoJxBvTlsa26jKAu4_uoN8wSu6weJHHPfyR05y9uq6_2V2Z oCVJPKTZsvTuAfrpgBQWx4gv6NfKBHv6TZdFZpAf9dsbsMUlSf.k- Received: from [68.165.86.214] by web182201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 11:31:57 PDT QlRXLi4uIGJlZm9yZSBJIG1hZGUgdXAgbXkgbWluZCB0byBjaGFpciB0aGUgZXZlbnQgSSBjYWxsZWQgQm9iIEtyYW1lciBhbmQgZ290IGhpcyBibGVzc2luZ3MuLi4uIHRoZSBLcmFtZXJzIGFyZSBpbiBBdXN0aW4gYWJvdXQgMjUwIG1pbGVzIHNvdXRoIG9mIERlY2F0dXIgVGV4YXMuLiBJJ20gaW4gV2VhdGhlcmZvcmQgVGV4YXMgLCB3ZXN0IG9mIEZvcnQgV29ydGggLyBEYWxsYXMgYWJvdXQgMzAgbWlsZXMuLi4gSSdtIGFuIGhvdXIgc291dGggb2YgdGhlIHRyYWNrLi4uIHNvIG1heWJlIEkgY2FuIGhlbHABMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 11:31:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph , Joe Alexander Subject: [Fot] 2014 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net BTW... before I made up my mind to chair the event I called Bob Kramer and got his blessings.... the Kramers are in Austin about 250 miles south of Decatur Texas.. I'm in Weatherford Texas , west of Fort Worth / Dallas about 30 miles... I'm an hour south of the track... so maybe I can help with some logistics... Bobby Whitehead _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 16 12:37:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF84340552 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:37:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f42.google.com (mail-pa0-f42.google.com [209.85.220.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B34F74006C for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:31:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id lj1so2191908pab.1 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 11:31:20 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=subject:from:content-type:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=PnnbReJCK9jPZ0LJpDCUcY08O48W/Ed9zXOSQSqhmEg=; b=dhO2q4MOQDv5Zq+BdZ9GVNcmShOvO8maqgJrikM/eBkxLDz3SjBvWXAkaOkZc3FKsX 6i1Ycv1sNNLdh0fAwy3ganG4+EcGIL17e8rNw2fdPnu4tg9pdQEx04q1eDk52Y/WrnE+ PmL5VLyTHOfIrga9vZnZdUIKl7XMNcze5xORXb3AQ7RlLszPKpxUC5l7ufUxoZx2nJWf nkSuSTansWDCvWulqsAzq58fzYttClW11XhIhSd7kaYhf8IIFmSbrXfXjeWhQMxBviOK /3ktFwg9hybN3xBygsvPvgypqLbdgBaYI/UuHOk9vaM8BBp1qx6DY09YbjhIj7/H+XaT gOtA== ph1mr2960242pbc.152.1376677880662; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 11:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.8.121] (cpe-67-246-45-67.nycap.res.rr.com. [67.246.45.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hx1sm3499750pbb.35.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 16 Aug 2013 11:31:19 -0700 (PDT) From: bownes Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 14:31:17 -0400 To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] Anyone heading east from Watkins Glen? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Is anyone heading east from WGI next month that could bring an engine a bit closer to Albany? Thanks! _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 16 12:44:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3669E4054D for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:44:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail168c2.megamailservers.com (mail168c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68F240078 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:40:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail168c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r7GIdoDg018192; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 14:39:54 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: "'Larry Young'" , "'EDWARD BARNARD'" References: <1376539014.18980.YahooMailNeo@web181405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <520E6E1C.4010408@pobox.com> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 14:39:49 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6arozyBnTGmcZwTEekGqUw1GVkZwAAVcHg a=99guUQEQX9IA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=MJIo3LPEAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=lcFKycKxAAAA:8 a=ybZZDoGAAAAA:8 a=I7AvcmN9wj3mD7FnX6QA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=LPw0h76ZFAwA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=ba-_3Pl-r2EA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=IeVFYImMg6QA:10 a=d2ijSB9aOkYA:10 a=qIVjreYYsbEA:10 a=GhR288BaLbLKwwFg:21 a=C1_izNZT5deDzlhl:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: 'Sam & Carol Clark' , FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] J-type overdrive reluctant to disengage Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Larry, we are using the Redline product in the A type you built.... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Young Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 2:23 PM To: EDWARD BARNARD Cc: Sam & Carol Clark; FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] J-type overdrive reluctant to disengage Yes, we had a club member who had this problem with an A type rebuilt by Quantum. On Ed's suggest, he went to Redline MTL and I haven't heard anything more about it, so it must have worked. Sam, do you know? Larry On 8/14/2013 10:56 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Scott: > Esposito builds them very tight. You need to drain the tranny and O/D > and refill with Redline MTL. Use MTL, not any of the weight specific > MT Redlines. They have other undesirable additives. In fact, the > bottle label states that. This has fixed every one of the tight O/D's > I/we have found...right Larry Y? > -Ed- > > > ________________________________ > From: > "Barr, Scott" > To: "fot@autox.team.net" > > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 9:03 PM > Subject: [Fot] > J-type overdrive reluctant to disengage > > > So I have my new J-type overdrive > trans in the Spit and took it out down the back road near my house tonight. > The overdrive engages and sometimes disengages. But a lot of the time > it remains in overdrive despite flipping the switch off. > > The trouble shooting > section of the manual lists several possible causes (none of which I > like because they sound like removal of the trans). Sticking > solenoid, sticking cone clutch, clogged control orifice, faulty wiring. > > I wouldn't think wiring > is the issue if it works right some of the time. Any chance this > relates to running it at lower revs than I would on track? > > Freshly rebuilt box from > Quantum Mechanics, John Esposito. > > Scott Barr > McCarty Law LLP > (920) 257-2233 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel@pobox.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 16 12:45:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD8F4055B for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:45:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3207B4041E for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:43:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b%11]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:43:43 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: 'Larry Young' , EDWARD BARNARD Thread-Topic: [Fot] J-type overdrive reluctant to disengage Thread-Index: AQHOmq6qTnTVwl26w06cO/igF6t5epmYKASw Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 18:43:42 +0000 References: <1376539014.18980.YahooMailNeo@web181405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <520E6E1C.4010408@pobox.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Cc: Sam & Carol Clark , "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] J-type overdrive reluctant to disengage Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In my case, I switched over to Redline MT-90 (interestingly, the recommendations were more numerous on the MT-90 side than on the MTL side). The trans does shift out of overdrive slightly more often than it did previously, but not reliably enough to use it on the race track this weekend. AND it's leaking like a sieve (the trans front seal was leaky to start with, and is even more so with the synthetic in it). So I'll be pulling the trans out of there tomorrow and dragging it down to Steve Yott to go through it before the KasCup. Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Young Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 1:23 PM To: EDWARD BARNARD Cc: Sam & Carol Clark; FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] J-type overdrive reluctant to disengage Yes, we had a club member who had this problem with an A type rebuilt by Quantum. On Ed's suggest, he went to Redline MTL and I haven't heard anything more about it, so it must have worked. Sam, do you know? Larry On 8/14/2013 10:56 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Scott: > Esposito builds them very tight. You need to drain the tranny and O/D > and refill with Redline MTL. Use MTL, not any of the weight specific > MT Redlines. They have other undesirable additives. In fact, the > bottle label states that. This has fixed every one of the tight O/D's > I/we have found...right Larry Y? > -Ed- > > > ________________________________ > From: > "Barr, Scott" > To: "fot@autox.team.net" > > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 9:03 PM > Subject: [Fot] > J-type overdrive reluctant to disengage > > > So I have my new J-type overdrive > trans in the Spit and took it out down the back road near my house tonight. > The overdrive engages and sometimes disengages. But a lot of the time > it remains in overdrive despite flipping the switch off. > > The trouble shooting > section of the manual lists several possible causes (none of which I > like because they sound like removal of the trans). Sticking > solenoid, sticking cone clutch, clogged control orifice, faulty wiring. > > I wouldn't think wiring > is the issue if it works right some of the time. Any chance this > relates to running it at lower revs than I would on track? > > Freshly rebuilt box from > Quantum Mechanics, John Esposito. > > Scott Barr > McCarty Law LLP > (920) 257-2233 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel@pobox.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 16 13:03:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7FC24055B for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:03:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm16-vm3.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm16-vm3.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ABBE40523 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:03:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.160] by nm16.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Aug 2013 19:03:37 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.49] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Aug 2013 19:03:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp102.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Aug 2013 19:03:37 -0000 beKydfi6fCgQvEmgsfQsEMYqGXRMYHkmvhcZGPB_ftIhAQPAYz_8k3a5AeOo U32wffhAXyFdzESxfYGb1Cgmqe5UG8.GdNW1mUSX5VsbZAIXvuOT8blV5OiG Dw54Mh4lGSM3IpYQIbelRO7hW3qw6lXKTXz0jjmk5d_FwXa.QFTsz8Yw7m8_ akuJjlX57U4QMD14IsxufF.8UbQRDvXhMePc_pcGo_9R5wD.IK_bge6xGl5B dThxhBdsH9rhkCWMv3MrnJ61l6XSHLv1feM7MfKB_AJZMnE1ihxPMrfTpJy8 Z191tYSCrPMjaWkkOlUoXgBNM7mmOurEFRG1yrAmtEBVoMOKOcbjXvB7ebs9 FkeBjM8cs2AbqLr56ags7sXh5SsdKngkGIHpPBIZ1lXOgasseKKgTi56h0cw 88fZXCt9VpH1RDl6vZy09mCayAR.RqjfRvHRjG8jJcZjYeQFOt0_QhHEKkTW cEs_2_u5AVfo3mraRzRte25FiG001NGYx3a8wQy9Vz5wv5spO2a.QWTKqn59 o2Rqsu7a21q1j3aRoBjmKGGU1gQwIcX1R2khT8zNs4axUWQalUlgZUjiG.Pw Ib0Fo52Jyy.1CJrFWdI0xGk9x9wWd9MiVpTweCOYI031S0gAlRPgpOG_9TRb 3AnSY9wGgNZHbbefd.6Lp plain) by smtp102.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 2013 12:03:36 -0700 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 14:03:44 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <65E03B3A-B465-412A-A450-E228C2D3389C@cs.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Empty Trailer. Texas to Iowa Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This might be an easy way for someone to acquire some of my not so easily shipped Triumph parts **http://tildentechnologies.com/TR3Parts Larry Tulsa, OK On 8/14/2013 11:36 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > FOT, > > Rumor has it that there is an empty trailer coming from somewhere in Texas to > Elkader, Iowa. > > Then it will come to the KCup with a Spitfire on it, before returning to > Texas. > > If anyone has a need to transport something under this scenario, I can find > out more details. > > FOT Tom Chandler sold his vintage Spitfire........ > > Joe Alexander > _______________________________________________. > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel@pobox.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 16 13:15:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E994055D for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:15:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d01.mx.aol.com (omr-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.252.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F3224052E for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:11:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.132]) by omr-d01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 47C2C7000009E; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 15:11:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 9FA03E0000B4; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 15:11:14 -0400 (EDT) References: <65E03B3A-B465-412A-A450-E228C2D3389C@cs.com> <520E7790.8010205@pobox.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 14:11:14 -0500 To: Larry Young x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1376680275; bh=qwI7kCkrzU7iDqx/klp6NTNvqNXaSJ+NbxL/8RblTDM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=IByWxnnMDqBamXKM0q2FqRU1jr5d6hCZkqUFvLM5FlVhlc2njWvDaTk5Q8JlB8Ceo 3w03WAgVvoBD7D+Phct58Lts4IzbMYp12lCyGl8ur2vVXO5daA9ySzEKGYtLIA07sS GSvDShXSvcztvRfxqWAQZcgh9Ch4CtoDqRCf0Xmo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d3384520e79526626 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Empty Trailer. Texas to Iowa Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I don't know what the current status is, but your note is a good one. There might be a partial pickup in Dallas and Tulsa isn't exactly out of the way. You might list what you have. There could be interest in the Midwest. Thanks! Joe Sent from my iPad On Aug 16, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Larry Young wrote: > This might be an easy way for someone to acquire some of my not so > easily shipped Triumph parts > **http://tildentechnologies.com/TR3Parts > Larry > Tulsa, OK > > On 8/14/2013 11:36 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: >> FOT, >> >> Rumor has it that there is an empty trailer coming from somewhere in Texas to >> Elkader, Iowa. >> >> Then it will come to the KCup with a Spitfire on it, before returning to >> Texas. >> >> If anyone has a need to transport something under this scenario, I can find >> out more details. >> >> FOT Tom Chandler sold his vintage Spitfire........ >> >> Joe Alexander >> _______________________________________________. > >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel@pobox.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 16 14:02:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DB014056E for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 14:02:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm9-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm9-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6454D4003A for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:59:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.155] by nm9.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Aug 2013 19:59:51 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.53] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Aug 2013 19:59:51 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp106.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Aug 2013 19:59:51 -0000 h29pbnPhhQ.2hF6dlqbwT62xqP4AmvAiWXE00pBaEFETjlTCFm2dp9GY1ync heKfZfnrnk1F8hInRZxrI3K_N065Lwj9P0qKP2gVNDWQFPWaD2P_sCpK8zMQ HNzwR2vO.u9h1rdqB09qNb9at4j6bQO6xZMS_dDWEGcFe.ciR5F0XtJvLnMY OkfP5PHXdl9nYV3IhaL9jggeQvJGI4NSU0D5p6WpC4.cOHtv_eHs5Esb50Os w_53An_XVEGU9__C9jjocTiPtWnI9jXUApTV_Cf8pMdp.59aZCy4SVkRTPaO pbEiOhy.q4POeVgm20F5LxSYOHL_1nHEAcgdNuNQrjfBQJp7Ecp.o66oexL9 zJv.CGemXEOFvmFAkdnGf5qDRL8BKJwj.Azz24c4cZ_iXsotJRsdgDfTiXFm srAHTCaC_qxfzRghGVtVSHcTV4nikStG2Yqglqj2VRmHuYJRlYcHsJqp5jKZ jBestNWg0T4bKwRqS94MZ.BfjVvfKXxSNG_cY.IMSPaUuj4bKSroJjNhIDIl FNU9X4sOCopu6vkQ75OMttIY8Ipq.MZz6td13uvPT9g-- plain) by smtp106.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 2013 12:59:51 -0700 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 14:59:58 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 CC: FOT@autox.team.net References: <1376539014.18980.YahooMailNeo@web181405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <520E6E1C.4010408@pobox.com> <254E88FC355A4456B509A580ACE2073B@gdhs.local> Subject: Re: [Fot] J-type overdrive reluctant to disengage Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I haven't personally had an overdrive that wouldn't shift out. I have always used standard Staylube GL-4 dinosaur oil, due to the claimed problem of GL-5 and yellow metal. I buy it by the gallon at the local Napa. Larry On 8/16/2013 1:39 PM, john hasty wrote: > Larry, we are using the Redline product in the A type you built.... > > > John H. Hasty > Attorney At Law > Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. > 719 East Boulevard > Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 > Tele: (704) 372-5600 > Fax: (704) 372-4601 > E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com > www.gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 16 14:38:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 857D14056D for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 14:38:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED7194052E for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 14:38:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [162.186.84.162] (mee5636d0.tmodns.net [208.54.86.238]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MVNo6-1VbUNV1bva-00Yg4m; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 16:38:39 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 15:18:02 -0500 From: The Fooddude To: Bobby Whitehead , FoT Triumph 42pj3XWlweGcrP1q89F2z52I3874hwv5D48+yGJ5beLHkYDgsg VAM0xlW508DNcld8d7YyD/gDvf0kHz5lJ6jKZmxW3k7Yj7v9tL +4EqN1KsyrBvRuSSSEtnnq8BLPA0Yk06sP8+4ADJQ1wrFvzhLD sna19qq9mMya2Ga60GP0ksLLz+tNyZ+3izLm0ImxBqWZVo1TPN x6tgJTYm+61iIIKZYAZT4RKT7hTOQpON8ZoICCV9eqQpVmsXI6 5I7my66GqjlWW0ElKG9p/8OcInTuoHwWCdxvtAex4mXSFQDmri GEl9pMvJKitwpFb7v8wHPTOp3/4w3MlyV7W3uUibZxX1xk0xqr 3lAi6BesyH0U05m5bFuQ+aY7tyH7uTWQ9Q= Subject: Re: [Fot] 2014 Kastener Kup? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Eagles canyon, cvar hosting Sent via and typos courtesy wireless handheld device. -------- Original message -------- From: Bobby Whitehead Date: 08/16/2013 12:41 PM (GMT-06:00) To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] 2014 Kastener Kup? has the location for 2014 Kastner Kup been announced? Bobby Whitehead _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 16 14:47:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2084068D for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 14:47:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d08.mx.aol.com (omr-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.207]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE5404052E for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 14:44:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.195]) by omr-d08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 40877700000B2; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 16:44:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 05DFCE00008F; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 16:44:40 -0400 (EDT) References: <65E03B3A-B465-412A-A450-E228C2D3389C@cs.com> <520E7790.8010205@pobox.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 15:44:40 -0500 To: Larry Young x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1376685880; bh=dp1rG1lKTZo5p9WpfocgCxd1Kc8v99JHACkX6GS/9RU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=p5np3rJomLc/Wh9ztEadjag5kQhtwxOxHb9Lx0FFe2hrPFZrmDiQQjOv68Hjq1gHM CuXpaMQtU78lu8CnxvU33CZUmWZGvBl1rRiIgsQ6zAO6ZxoFq/EG/lT+C5A+R8J2Uf 79AkRJzXxBF+LwWI/GbV5VfHLAQKVTjwO54cIK3Q= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c3520e8f374811 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Empty Trailer. Texas to Iowa Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net OK! I see the link.....this is good to know. If parts available are not posted, how is anyone to know? We should try to have an informal auto jumble, at the KCup, but it's hard to focus on that when you are supposed to be racing. Sent from my iPad On Aug 16, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Larry Young wrote: > This might be an easy way for someone to acquire some of my not so > easily shipped Triumph parts > **http://tildentechnologies.com/TR3Parts > Larry > Tulsa, OK > > On 8/14/2013 11:36 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: >> FOT, >> >> Rumor has it that there is an empty trailer coming from somewhere in Texas to >> Elkader, Iowa. >> >> Then it will come to the KCup with a Spitfire on it, before returning to >> Texas. >> >> If anyone has a need to transport something under this scenario, I can find >> out more details. >> >> FOT Tom Chandler sold his vintage Spitfire........ >> >> Joe Alexander >> _______________________________________________. > >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel@pobox.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 16 15:38:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B0C40543 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 15:38:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m07.mx.aol.com (omr-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C69B40539 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 15:36:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.2]) by omr-m07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id F3EE970035457; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 17:36:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.3.2.7] (eagle290.startdedicated.com [69.64.36.144]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 31D81E0010B3; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 17:36:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Sam Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 16:36:37 -0500 References: To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1376688999; bh=+z1A1oKJIHuHljrmJzae3g47iZ0s2TaXkOHbyT5PCoo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=SxYjKFQ805w6jCbz3LiB+pEJ1HfLRTsxphTus6vvZle/uQ57IJvxRnpIzt0dyT2B7 4OXo/fpMKpkCRd+LdaJ2mzeoAe2LF8HAD6ilPy5vFi9ISiQYINS3Z1fl/6dUwnVB/v yGBcrqF9zFDxtJ3gAKmKAzAhswTSxDSy0sxaQi7g= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2902520e9b6755e8 Cc: John Phillips , Rob and Donna Thompson Subject: Re: [Fot] J-type overdrive reluctant to disengage Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Last I heard he was having no problems. The MTL seems to have worked. Sam On Aug 16, 2013, at 1:43 PM, fot-request@autox.team.net wrote: > From: Larry Young > To: EDWARD BARNARD > Cc: Sam & Carol Clark , "FOT@autox.team.net" > > Subject: Re: [Fot] J-type overdrive reluctant to disengage > Message-ID: <520E6E1C.4010408@pobox.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Yes, we had a club member who had this problem with an A type rebuilt by > Quantum. On Ed's suggest, he went to Redline MTL and I haven't heard > anything more about it, so it must have worked. Sam, do you know? > Larry _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 16 20:32:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9861E40562 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 20:32:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67F240419 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 20:32:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [22.49.77.4] (md12636d0.tmodns.net [208.54.38.209]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M1Duq-1Vyv2F327c-00tW0H; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 22:32:14 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 21:31:30 -0500 From: The Fooddude To: Bobby Whitehead , FoT Triumph TjgtsvjoKNMwa/Dwkf/15tEvo74HwK/AgvNLDHkDXjtwQ6JqGQ 34IO0IJnZR9H1agrCuBVwE7hUgjVFTPxkZLJKX+dzK3fodGY3p WAnTPJO0lczlOj13GoJgdUZcxUXsTOCxzZ+0BMPOBFm78uM/aK RXc9HLQPHJtbrbi8diXuISoKzezwEcqpKrCwMx1NkrWyOp/obD +Sfh8JLRfF0WBEaHYNs1kjxbOf7Tu8Bb4EWd3yqW2VXh2oFG/8 qZQcxFI7zelofukEkE/eab72MUoZOEEq8hq3B7aH/e487mLnr6 0Dvnt1Ce8feLIlU9tvO5V9LgMxXiLXcZxoD+7ZGMeoL4k+7dpw WxrbM+K3ITGyA== Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Kup May 2014 Eagles Canyon Raceway Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Kstner cup at cota 2014? Sent via and typos courtesy wireless handheld device. -------- Original message -------- From: Bobby Whitehead Date: 08/16/2013 1:26 PM (GMT-06:00) To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] Kastner Kup May 2014 Eagles Canyon Raceway I wasn't sure the news had been posted or shared about the 2014 Kastner Kup...B With that, I have some good news and some bad news...B First I have been asked by CVAR (Corinthian Vintage Auto Racing) president George Curl if I would be the Race Chairman for the event. Having never done so, I was a bit apprehensive but I'm close friends with George and I also have a close friend in CVAR, Steve Coleman, that has chaired the Small Bore Fest 2 years in a row at ECR (Eagles Canyon Raceway) in Decatur Texas. I also have a very good relationship with Maggie Williams who is the management coordinator with ECR. I'm also close to Gregg Rodgers with Pinnacle Autosports where my GT2 is stabled at the track side facility. So, confident I can make it happen I gladly accepted the opportunity to be the CVAR race chairman for the FoT event at ECR in May 2014. Also.. racing budget is exactly that, racing budget, and I'm close to being done on my GT-6+ but not quite there yet. We had the opportunity to register for the COTA (Circuit of the Americas) in Austin Texas in October and that seems to be for feasible and reasonable for me and my family to participate and budget. So, reluctantly , I'm bowing out of the Kastner Kup at Road America this year but promise to give the best experience I can help deliver as the Race Chairman for the 2014 event. Bobby Whitehead CVAR Race Chairman for the F.o.T. 2014 ECR Decatur Texas Event _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 16 20:46:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EECA040572 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 20:46:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm21-vm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm21-vm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.131]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE09140419 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 20:46:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.159] by nm21.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2013 02:46:11 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.139] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2013 02:46:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2013 02:46:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 99924 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Aug 2013 02:46:11 -0000 s=s1024; t=1376707571; bh=cqwAB13ZWY3PvofPC6YsTDsLnw8cFIyDHFUr3ZZl2Yk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bs+5bQL5Ssl10dZvR82AYHtLkDEEoeUzbocIz4cx9glt0tFm8kJOWcbXGpb7JR+Yq8E2/MeK3pC8NwwRNojhFXuCt8e1jIWHjlyV+A3EOKU9OoQ8/amifMoxxL1NgKQqz2mOLK+lLmt2ZSOzLGvm9NugnruTqwpLN0yBYuyt7UU= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5g0zCXU9N9IfJKdKiDtyLj7BTA5gfczgbNaUqRnL6ZHA+PVWqXczwbrF+alFSC1TuG1pX1b+I88dsqCFLBD2r9SmMVs17pyV/5qBrkDCmKpw7yHt7aZsDXKtJFDuzPCqWEERVCVlPY5jujRNh1aYFRybdUXDq6mBIw1pjuGhdxc=; k3ayKssGqoQ9.Z4Hrc4BW1mwg0WKh6kaNZR.c3WKavtRZKvtshCy0ReFVMxb AEdfLp_IsUBrCZOdBrDWJMTCX8K1A3Lgnt4G9LZL_78YVasDth12MGMr0thO vIh22tIW.pNQUDEKZmfoCdcXjbDb.1e_uSKPj.QSXBXH7xIznAPAze66ejDd OPj5gEAwGtSSdVwZwVZxzqYszHT69Ey4HYhPZBmhQ46.I7afSJ6x7ohu2TRi YkzMlRY1NLJQ1lbvXXH2_2GLRe_eugS0ecMyeZAcunP1YwzPz3OZfIR3MWdS k.umSXikCudOcvR.1D_XYDPo9FbxYcnfe76V.cH2n_EKBbIMrOcV406XPnLb R2tDw5I5a1MZqLnVknKGqW2DGOMEA9dkIqIPSkyjXqL6IQsPy6FH.g9m7RXF Dsqch_QOKDmk7NxACiLqxyDZxINpG21W5jI6CqQVkRicekNQ2Y.oXH19OEN3 4rOVt2UtfaR7kngGtLqHGip1tdCNyVql43M1z5b_PS16BEa16rpLdy_DAS5o ri6ipctdbSvBQrOGnT6leWPj2OaoChN9fzq86Oa3Ohjx_U7z.Or7rulyWjuD AmlZJFWVOvc6c3FvavT3H1Dr7NU.Z Received: from [162.198.152.23] by web182205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 19:46:11 PDT JDUwLDAwMC4wMCBhIGRheSBmb3IgdHJhY2sgcmVudGFsIGlzIG15IHVuZGVyc3RhbmRpbmcgZm9yIENPVEHCoCAuLi7CoMKgwqAgCgpTVlJBIGlzIGF0IENPVEEgdGhpcyB5ZWFyIGluIE9jdG9iZXIgMjAxM8KgIGJ0dwoKQm9iYnkKCgoKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCiBGcm9tOiBUaGUgRm9vZGR1ZGUgPGRmb3JlbWFuQGZvb2RkdWRlLmNvbT4KVG86IEJvYmJ5IFdoaXRlaGVhZCA8aWdvZmFzdGVyQGF0dC5uZXQ.OyBGb1QgVHJpdW1waCA8Zm90QGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0PiAKU2UBMAEBAQE- References: Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 19:46:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Bobby Whitehead To: The Fooddude , FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Kup May 2014 Eagles Canyon Raceway Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net $50,000.00 a day for track rental is my understanding for COTA ... SVRA is at COTA this year in October 2013 btw Bobby ________________________________ From: The Fooddude To: Bobby Whitehead ; FoT Triumph Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 9:31 PM Subject: RE: [Fot] Kastner Kup May 2014 Eagles Canyon Raceway Kstner cup at cota 2014? Sent via and typos courtesy wireless handheld device. -------- Original message -------- From: Bobby Whitehead Date: 08/16/2013 1:26 PM (GMT-06:00) To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] Kastner Kup May 2014 Eagles Canyon Raceway I wasn't sure the news had been posted or shared about the 2014 Kastner Kup... With that, I have some good news and some bad news... First I have been asked by CVAR (Corinthian Vintage Auto Racing) president George Curl if I would be the Race Chairman for the event. Having never done so, I was a bit apprehensive but I'm close friends with George and I also have a close friend in CVAR, Steve Coleman, that has chaired the Small Bore Fest 2 years in a row at ECR (Eagles Canyon Raceway) in Decatur Texas. I also have a very good relationship with Maggie Williams who is the management coordinator with ECR. I'm also close to Gregg Rodgers with Pinnacle Autosports where my GT2 is stabled at the track side facility. So, confident I can make it happen I gladly accepted the opportunity to be the CVAR race chairman for the FoT event at ECR in May 2014. Also.. racing budget is exactly that, racing budget, and I'm close to being done on my GT-6+ but not quite there yet. We had the opportunity to register for the COTA (Circuit of the Americas) in Austin Texas in October and that seems to be for feasible and reasonable for me and my family to participate and budget. So, reluctantly , I'm bowing out of the Kastner Kup at Road America this year but promise to give the best experience I can help deliver as the Race Chairman for the 2014 event. Bobby Whitehead CVAR Race Chairman for the F.o.T. 2014 ECR Decatur Texas Event _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dforeman@fooddude.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 17 11:13:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF10442706 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 2013 11:13:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C604C40523 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 2013 08:03:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b%11]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Sat, 17 Aug 2013 09:03:44 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: 'Irv Korey' , Steve Yott , "'Jerry Barr'" , 'tom strange' Thread-Topic: Quantum Mechanics transmission Thread-Index: Ac2AEgyh0+0XpYnLTeCkzKqbd+67tgAAr0DARs7W52A= Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 14:03:42 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] Quantum Mechanics transmission Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Here's what I've found on the transmission leak front. According to my note below (almost exactly one year ago), the input shaft measured approximately 0.930", when it should have been closer to 1.00". Mr. Esposito determined that his machinist had turned the input shaft down to too small a diameter, so it was leaking past the seal. Damn, pull it apart and send it back. Upon getting the transmission back, and reassembling, it still leaks. So I measured the input shaft again - and guess what? IT'S STILL 0.930!!! It appears that what happened is that I sent this transmission back last August to have a properly sized input shaft installed and it sat in his shop until I began to get impatient about not having it back this spring and then HE SHIPPED IT BACK TO ME IN EXACTLY THE SAME F()@%!#& CONDITION AS WHEN I SENT IT TO HIM LAST SUMMER!!! I can't prove that's what happened, but that's sure what it looks like. Scott From: Barr, Scott [mailto:sbarr@McCarty-Law.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:55 PM Subject: RE: output shaft flange Arg, sorry. One more thing, I guess. The trans leaks heavily from the front seal when it is tilted tail up (say at 30 degrees). The input shaft measures 0.930" or so and I believe (after discussion with Brit Parts NW) that the ID of the seal is closer to 0.998. Any idea what's up here? Scott Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 www.mccarty-law.com -----Original message----- To: "'Barr, Scott'" Sent: Tue, Aug 21, 2012 21:26:11 GMT+00:00 Subject: RE: output shaft flange 90 to 100 ft pounds!!!! John -----Original Message----- From: Barr, Scott [mailto:sbarr@McCarty-Law.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 3:34 PM To: quantum Subject: RE: output shaft flange Oh, and what's the proper torque for the nut behind the flange? My manual doesn't list that. (Gotta go get a good factory manual). From: quantum [mailto:john@quantumechanics.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 2:30 PM To: Barr, Scott Subject: RE: output shaft flange Scott - Yes the shaft and spline count are the same for spitfire and TR6. It is too late to get it out today. I will get it out tomorrow by priority mail. You should see it Friday or latest Saturday. John -----Original Message----- From: Barr, Scott [mailto:sbarr@McCarty-Law.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 3:17 PM To: quantum Subject: RE: output shaft flange Hi John, I assume the Spitfire output shaft is the same 25x1.1" shaft? Can you let me know when you'll send the Spitfire flange? No problem - stuff happens. Shipping address is: 2401 East Enterprise Avenue, Appleton WI 54913 Scott From: quantum [mailto:john@quantumechanics.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 2:13 PM To: Barr, Scott Subject: RE: output shaft flange Importance: High Scott - Hi again! Somehow I gave you a TR6 flange!!! I will send out a spitfire one to replace it ASAP. Please return the TR6 one to me. I will pay return postage if you let me know what it is. Sorry for the error. Please resend your shipping address or the shop address if you want me to send it directly to them John -----Original Message----- From: Barr, Scott [mailto:sbarr@McCarty-Law.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 2:09 PM To: quantum Subject: output shaft flange Hi John, Confirming the voicemail I just left you. The outer diameter of that flange is 3.920 and the center-to-center bolt hole distance is about 3.125. Thanks! Scott Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 (direct) http://www.mccartylaw.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This Email message may be confidential or privileged. Only the intended recipient may read, use, copy, disclose or distribute this message. The law requires this firm to inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication cannot be used for purposes of avoiding any penalties that may be imposed by the Internal Revenue Service. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 17 11:34:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268954271C for ; Sat, 17 Aug 2013 11:34:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E5A40E97 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 2013 11:34:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from new-host.home (pool-108-16-249-182.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [108.16.249.182]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.07(7.0.4.27.6) 64bit (built Jun 21 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0MRO0095TRH0LL40@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Sat, 17 Aug 2013 17:34:14 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-08-17_06:2013-08-16,2013-08-17,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1308170152 From: Scott Janzen Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 13:34:13 -0400 To: Scott Barr , 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Quantum Mechanics Transmission Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I used to send stuff to Quantum, but I've had great success in the past few years with Matt Bakes at Triumph Rescue in Bally, Pa. He does not strictly do transmissions, but he has built/re-built TR4/6 boxes for me with close ratio gears from Ken Gillanders. Matt and his wife have general mechanical and restoration shop for British cars. Good work, no issues/leaks, understands the racing stresses and looks pro-actively for issues, timely, reasonable price, and great communication. Just picked up the refreshed box this morning at his shop (following the recent clutch disc failure at Schenley) and a "built" spare to take with me to the track, hopefully ensuring I will not have a failure! For me, it's easy cuz he's local, but if you are shipping to Quantum you can ship anywhere. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 17 12:31:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9093442720 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 2013 12:31:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm8-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm8-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.138]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93BCC40E97 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 2013 12:26:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2013 18:26:23 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.10] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2013 18:26:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1010.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2013 18:26:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 64158 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Aug 2013 18:26:23 -0000 s=s1024; t=1376763983; bh=vzEtv+8O4ZxS7XBk8Wu7r54I3e6OtklwRrRnRUGJJHU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=x3WmMzCgS2qpm0rJnqZaql/GlS6/iNWuIvPO5hGNpV+KCDi2FSaF15lPFySy0xTrEkye7p/TcI+2JPnEaWirc6/DkZxGuozE/DssdQelwlmqDTIe2LC281XnHZAGf6AoSYTG6SZ15qfjTy3khMI8Ys0CSA8qZpwZld9TUvi87GY= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TeEfLVoM2OwHVicPaGmfM1ROKJ1he6BbnExzWuyvDuqBr8SJ4TpXMrUU3pljMng5FAwjs1I9r3ea04ektkSoYfdX1hezAlRmepoW/tLek5epoYBp/lrp6gQGXA4cQzG02NOQekcvNB1JJjc72UWOr8syayeZi7Z/P+CTaFbs3/s=; ilY9JoiOyK9h3wjSwZiFQdvAapCPMfa6pSag5vjT.MAd6GG8pKP9lM3drwla TXmmGUdIo_esdx0bD8Sn4EIB.xNRZ3YJ1BtHtQR0HJRy4m78SVRcKS2OGsjO 5xsLx8PWSMkKnIqDbo9BesujM2pd6weN5ypeHzu5H7uV78eaygCnaNd9MVRr SFSa65u5Cc9A7SEFMjWKduLsfdMw6jDNds6opatIXvhasdu7PDozlhKQC9cZ 6Ds5mUr6pNPVouLifWShK7nd8waGAcee4SqMUjJHqbP2qwpY7ztiqyGzvx_C AfdmGGpJtrfu63ynTzl7w_AVzq3ZMNxMoQ5cTpLi27QNMjlMNZh6oLhsgM1q li0mMYPoeTmp4iBZlSXVWMz91E_24sqjE0RHCPmIiNX10tM4zyIKbGI_MsLW tcJ4GzZYKCOSQNCZlhVlZ8cxtDUG2SVAUeRGGz1jaY2cQtzyhQuLzuy3eKE3 X6mkhHPzQhyxpSCx.QJetog7tLlQEKVyWc2l.JTStXo8YkNg4B5ZPH_jWRtq rSUpzcWn3aiRGzv4JfUAkspUaj1LWo8g- Received: from [70.195.5.177] by web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 17 Aug 2013 11:26:23 PDT SSBoYXZlIGZvdW5kIGl0IGhhcmRlciB0aGFuIEkgdGhvdWdodCB0byBmaW5kIGEgZ29vZCBzZXQgb2Ygc3RyZWV0L2F1dG8gY3Jvc3MgdGlyZXMgZm9yIGEgU3BpdGZpcmUuIFRoZSBzaXplIHRoYXQgaXMgcmVjb21tZW5kZWQgaXMgMTU1LzgwLzEzIGJ1dCBJIGhhdmUgaGVhcmQgdGhhdCAxNzUvNzAvMTMncyBmaXQuIFRoZSBvbmx5IHRpcmVzIEkgY2FuIGZpbmQgbG9jYWxseSBhcmUgY3JhcC4gSSB3b3VsZCBsaWtlIHRvIGZpbmQgYSBuaWNlIHNldCBvZiBLdW1obywgSGFua29vaywgRmlyZXN0b25lLCBCcmkBMAEBAQE- Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 11:26:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Shawn Frank To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Spitfire tire search continues Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have found it harder than I thought to find a good set of street/auto cross tires for a Spitfire. The size that is recommended is 155/80/13 but I have heard that 175/70/13's fit. The only tires I can find locally are crap. I would like to find a nice set of Kumho, Hankook, Firestone, Bridgestone, etc. Something name brand. Does anyone have a recommendation of brands, availability, or even have a nice new or used set? I wanted to get tires before our drive to the Kastner Cup, but will have to deal with the shop rollers I have on her now. They still have decent life left on them. If you know of any, please let me know. Thank you and see you at the KCup!!! Shawn Frank Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 17 12:34:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679B94271F for ; Sat, 17 Aug 2013 12:34:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from ex.dunnwalshholdings.com (ex.dunnwalshholdings.com [173.219.117.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FB5426B9 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 2013 12:34:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::6cea:93a1:26a:8c3c]) by TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::6cea:93a1:26a:8c3c%15]) with mapi; Sat, 17 Aug 2013 11:34:01 -0700 From: Edward Dunn To: Shawn Frank , Friends of Triumph Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 11:33:37 -0700 Thread-Topic: [Fot] Spitfire tire search continues Thread-Index: Ac6bd+vfgL1vADTeRV6dEe8wg85tbQAAAJkg References: <1376763983.63052.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire tire search continues Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Toyo Proxes R888 in 185/60/13. Fits well, drives well, not expensive. Edward Dunn West Coast Vintage Racing 2240 Encinitas Blvd., Suite D101 Encinitas CA 92024 760-492-3814 www.vintageracing.us [cid:image001.jpg@01CE9B3D.99793190] -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Shawn Frank Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 11:26 AM To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Spitfire tire search continues I have found it harder than I thought to find a good set of street/auto cross tires for a Spitfire. The size that is recommended is 155/80/13 but I have heard that 175/70/13's fit. The only tires I can find locally are crap. I would like to find a nice set of Kumho, Hankook, Firestone, Bridgestone, etc. Something name brand. Does anyone have a recommendation of brands, availability, or even have a nice new or used set? I wanted to get tires before our drive to the Kastner Cup, but will have to deal with the shop rollers I have on her now. They still have decent life left on them. If you know of any, please let me know. Thank you and see you at the KCup!!! Shawn Frank Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 17 12:36:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F047C42724 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 2013 12:36:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f174.google.com (mail-ea0-f174.google.com [209.85.215.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1708D40046 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 2013 12:36:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f174.google.com with SMTP id z15so1561605ead.33 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 2013 11:36:36 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=tCbvsmbSgEpT6IL//zHE5vTZ9AE3bm5ABaSHQigOCpg=; b=Z0Ddei9446AiBiNMZoyCb3NmR/OGxoolUbq1E2zzzyHd2spTuK2t2Qm2lGqPDtaZwU ISwjLuBWqb9AQftjqGjg7NlobmBadbOoPBt9YpUlmvnhUC8qBBe+lK076dyR+1Db0F9s ZMOtw0LKCoBTQe47V2DAqFq6sJYvEkCejXKCMVck+9gBq51CxutpMuThwzWXrRXelO1y Qi4oe/bZ0DQM2hyxf40qtiARNe+IdafWbnQfapprUBN+d6TqMKtx0DObCuaMGTBzQoxU ToRuqHn0LeyhBl0bK4a0I1wgZVuRIfaq3KPp9Xz3+NnQSG8JtOlHMxaP2CyZoq0MHivB M5Ww== c8mr7532577eep.6.1376764596329; Sat, 17 Aug 2013 11:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home (ip-109-41-214-191.web.vodafone.de. [109.41.214.191]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bp43sm5151443eeb.4.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 17 Aug 2013 11:36:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Shawn Frank'" , "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <1376763983.63052.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 20:36:32 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6bd+jUSIwUh48vSKeX8z3cTsdPnQAAKqWQ Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire tire search continues Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Good results the Michelin TB5 has on a Spitfire here. Too much stick....like a slick tire. -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Shawn Frank Gesendet: Samstag, 17. August 2013 20:26 An: Friends of Triumph Betreff: [Fot] Spitfire tire search continues I have found it harder than I thought to find a good set of street/auto cross tires for a Spitfire. The size that is recommended is 155/80/13 but I have heard that 175/70/13's fit. The only tires I can find locally are crap. I would like to find a nice set of Kumho, Hankook, Firestone, Bridgestone, etc. Something name brand. Does anyone have a recommendation of brands, availability, or even have a nice new or used set? I wanted to get tires before our drive to the Kastner Cup, but will have to deal with the shop rollers I have on her now. They still have decent life left on them. If you know of any, please let me know. Thank you and see you at the KCup!!! Shawn Frank Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 17 14:16:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355114273C for ; Sat, 17 Aug 2013 14:16:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.72]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFCEA42722 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 2013 14:14:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.48] by nm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2013 20:14:31 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.168] by tm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2013 20:14:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1069.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2013 20:14:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 86120 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Aug 2013 20:14:31 -0000 s=s1024; t=1376770471; bh=MLNK8l3lqDhry8A8c2b6Datn5YwO0I2jyfYFnCPaxuk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0RMi8JGazj4E01Ys1jTeOfDxWTY93R14NFsaP1tmXkBzXzHG45sKulDJdafleQilzWrc8fySXdF+v/R8uqbA51kq2vCReoACcHjyix6w+6YaeeYfh1Qy5CQuF8Yv2FTGdkdqKIZnifJYnaAFAv04tuXOepOxjklTOdux2cevgGs= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Gin8jEG2mwwbsGLJNFLCHgxfdySqDqjyFZXoSB7GfsgoHB7RflKs5s2+dclGiMnvnYyLS+hGNpmkJUEEbKgOqSH2E6J/G6q9F9SSSnbsuB3yQxtzMG+jHR1QbHLMOkfzDVeoh5dwp5nfcgjusdxB4tOAALQEtxGiOkh2pet8494=; 4LW7rLJoyFWAwFX7Hgxt4wTBt2mHSfbhDJnAaSZPOEMDv1PTOVuFQYZYr1Rr 2iYMegqXuZ7ZPQ23jnOBhdl_m.CWYZZIWQbCnSNG_DUwAxjdSiTvGGJuokNS sMw2D1j8T9.F.18bUl9GCuBb5cTd6whtYV2KJlNCGUe3ybrFYG7T9Kmtg4vg yd6Xfpu2n_SFBtaN00dLvo88w2R9DZi1iWuijrrpkJYq9byOgy3IKLPzWWZo PahJHGv6I47YuDEyO7LR7pG0OiIptzBZ1nV6Ggekvx0TiN29OH2lu79MiMOB LdCX4LYqweQ12.e0OL4iiqa801y.D9WXUqgRH.b_oHWpu9Gb8NtvcQNxv_Rn Eq67QC6BsTtwuDQFVAqLtK.6_xPmRrrfFcUzMyC6rkw7nNKyskiRDgtgFDmS iqwgnyV5.JUCrwnf_17dqt9ZZVPDutK0Ro0F6RvtJKwJBv2SBfrVHxjAzsz7 lwKsYNxUDbk_rgFkJ_65nHp68FSf4W1U9pu.hpl8P56wqIw7llXXrgjMN0AP 6PWu7NrW0odKwG3khMDTBt8pPAhuBNPystoaM5NnO7I6LPujQo1eJLqc3lQK 31vtKK9QEDzwfVl4OFf0N9phbNmxT0Rnpu2emxT3KT4bo7.gKnruK7AH_TxX WViUfBbae9lFXY9VNrqD6_OMu_Nqrkstr2VSAc3wX8VUyUAI- Received: from [98.238.60.211] by web121105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 17 Aug 2013 13:14:30 PDT WW91IGNhbiBmaW5kIGEgZ29vZCBzZWxlY3Rpb24gb3ZlciBpbiBFdXJvcGUsIGNoZWFwZXIgZXZlbiB3aXRoIHNoaXBwaW5nLiBJIGZvdW5kIHRoZSBiZXN0IHdheSBpcyB0byBidXkgYSBzZXQgb2Ygd2hlZWwgYWRhcHRlcnMuIFRoYXQgd2F5IHlvdSBjb3VsZCBidXnCoCBjaGVhcCAob3Igbm90LCApwqBNaWF0YSB3aGVlbHMgNFgxMDAuIEkgdXNlIDE1IsKgYW5kIGEgMTkwLzUwIHRpcmUuIFRoZSB0aXJlIGhlaWdodCBpcyBsZXNzIHRoYW4gYSAxMy8yMDUvNjAgdGlyZS4gwqAKwqAKR2FyeSBNYXVlIAoKX18BMAEBAQE- References: <1376763983.63052.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB0206ACA45380@TITAN.dwholdings.local> Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 13:14:30 -0700 (PDT) From: maueman To: Edward Dunn , Shawn Frank , Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire tire search continues Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You can find a good selection over in Europe, cheaper even with shipping. I found the best way is to buy a set of wheel adapters. That way you could buy cheap (or not, ) Miata wheels 4X100. I use 15" and a 190/50 tire. The tire height is less than a 13/205/60 tire. Gary Maue ________________________________ From: Edward Dunn To: Shawn Frank ; Friends of Triumph Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire tire search continues Toyo Proxes R888 in 185/60/13. Fits well, drives well, not expensive. Edward Dunn West Coast Vintage Racing 2240 Encinitas Blvd., Suite D101 Encinitas CA 92024 760-492-3814 http://www.vintageracing.us/ [cid:image001.jpg@01CE9B3D.99793190] -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Shawn Frank Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 11:26 AM To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Spitfire tire search continues I have found it harder than I thought to find a good set of street/auto cross tires for a Spitfire. The size that is recommended is 155/80/13 but I have heard that 175/70/13's fit. The only tires I can find locally are crap. I would like to find a nice set of Kumho, Hankook, Firestone, Bridgestone, etc. Something name brand. Does anyone have a recommendation of brands, availability, or even have a nice new or used set? I wanted to get tires before our drive to the Kastner Cup, but will have to deal with the shop rollers I have on her now. They still have decent life left on them. If you know of any, please let me know. Thank you and see you at the KCup!!! Shawn Frank Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/maueman@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 17 14:31:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0EE54273D for ; Sat, 17 Aug 2013 14:31:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8832942722 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 2013 14:29:51 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rdavis4@cfl.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=_REmax0PLPYA:10 a=Wq9qR6p4nDaBXUcd608A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Yd1r9ypzuwEA:10 a=sYxQV8JEzKsA:10 a=KOrh491K8B87fFeLgJkoRw==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.185] ([10.127.132.185:55000] helo=cdptpa-web34-z02) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 1A/B8-14128-E3DDF025; Sat, 17 Aug 2013 20:29:50 +0000 Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 16:29:50 -0400 From: To: FOT@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal Subject: [Fot] Stag convertible top frame Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Apologize for a little off usual topic, but I am searching for a good Stag convertible top frame or a lead for one. thxx, Bob _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 17 19:30:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E185342724 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 2013 19:30:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s37.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s37.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.112]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5628E426B9 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 2013 19:29:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W62 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s37.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 17 Aug 2013 18:29:46 -0700 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 21:29:45 -0400 References: , FILETIME=[6C276C50:01CE9BB2] Subject: [Fot] PVGP In-car Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A couple of minutes of in-car video from the 2013 Pittsburgh Vintage Grand prix at Pit Race I raced at last month AND FINISHED! Don't have this GoPro stuff figured out yet but this gives a short view and give me something to watch as I get ready for R.A. Enjoy. http://youtu.be/pc7PaNkW0Cw _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 18 08:42:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7FE42706 for ; Sun, 18 Aug 2013 08:42:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AEB94038C for ; Sun, 18 Aug 2013 08:36:10 -0600 (MDT) a=jEgmq+twTEaVYcCj9o/6sA==:17 a=7dwiEFn1B9gA:10 a=fzSbSsJvZRkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=CIMGbKpGtfgA:10 a=Gm7VprUPTBzAj1CwFMIA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=GmJrpyynNbyKPAMmhjcA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=NyFbhIMmlXwoWfTT:21 a=jEgmq+twTEaVYcCj9o/6sA==:117 Received: from [72.238.210.33] ([72.238.210.33:50772] helo=Davis.local) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 57/99-05415-4DBD0125; Sun, 18 Aug 2013 14:36:04 +0000 Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 10:31:54 -0400 From: Bob Davis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] TR3 race car for sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have come to the realization that my motivation to complete this TR3 race car project has left me. The project has been ongoing for 3 1/2 years and is currently at the 80% or so completion stage. It is to be a recreation (with a few liberty's) of the #33 RHD factory car raced at Sebring in 1957. Winchester blue with red interior. As with any project like this there is a stupid amount of time energy and money invested. I have used all the best parts and pieces and have a list that I can forward to any interested parties. Originally built and raced in the late 70's through early 90's by two brothers and a father in California. I am in Florida. *_Here is a snapshot:_* factory steel hardtop, quaife diff, venolia pistons, carillo rods, BFE cam and GT40 lifters, adjustable cam sprocket, mallory unilite distributor (and a new stock distributor), ported/polished head, ported polished SU intake manifold, set of rebuilt 45dcoe9 with manifold webers, rear main seal conversion, crank/block cryo treated, tri metal bearings, revington tr upper fulcrum mounting kit, southwick axles, finned aluminum drums, tr6 front suspension, all bearings are new, rack & pinion steering, scirocco aluminum radiator, toyota w56 gearbox conversion, new 4:11 diff gears, all fender/shood/doors trunk lid/spare tire lid/hardtop cut in with winchester blue, tub interior cut in with winchester blue, (everything was stripped to bare metal), stainless steel header, super trapp muffler, all hydraulics are new (dual brake master cylinders), spare toyota gearbox and an A type OD, instrumentation, spare fenders/doors/trunk lid/ hood, stripped and refinished spare frame, spare engine blocks/cranks/heads, electric accusump, low back race seat, engine/gearbox/running gear/suspension/tub/fuel cell all installed (it is a roller), frame stripped and repainted and on and on and on............... A bunch of new little bits and pieces and rubber seals (such as those needed to assemble the hardtop) are included, and since I am kinda getting out of doing refurbishments I have plastic bins of hydraulics, bearings and on and on, included. I may even throw in an aluminum TR4 surrey top center section (needs work but is not corroded and very restorable). Asking $16K, obo. I have pictures if interested. thxx, Bob _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 18 11:00:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4FCA42736 for ; Sun, 18 Aug 2013 11:00:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B9942705 for ; Sun, 18 Aug 2013 10:55:00 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=inCEfQ0bRJBki3+gXvXFmP6NzMFyJTA6OyuDygHxslUGi0o8nw0eLYzIlSrvDHHW; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.50] (helo=mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1VB6Fn-0004yG-UA; Sun, 18 Aug 2013 12:54:59 -0400 Received: from 209.179.52.86 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Sun, 18 Aug 2013 12:54:59 -0400 Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 12:54:59 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Mike Jackson To: Bob Davis , fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 race car for sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net As sorry as I am to hear Bob is going to abandon his project, let me say that every project he has completed prior to this has been just spectacular! I hope it finds a good home. Wish I had the room and dough for it. Mike Jackson -----Original Message----- >From: Bob Davis >Sent: Aug 18, 2013 10:31 AM >To: fot@autox.team.net >Subject: [Fot] TR3 race car for sale > >I have come to the realization that my motivation to complete this TR3 >race car project has left me. The project has been ongoing for 3 1/2 >years and is currently at the 80% or so completion stage. It is to be a >recreation (with a few liberty's) of the #33 RHD factory car raced at >Sebring in 1957. Winchester blue with red interior. As with any project >like this there is a stupid amount of time energy and money invested. I >have used all the best parts and pieces and have a list that I can >forward to any interested parties. Originally built and raced in the >late 70's through early 90's by two brothers and a father in California. >I am in Florida. > >*_Here is a snapshot:_* factory steel hardtop, quaife diff, venolia >pistons, carillo rods, BFE cam and GT40 lifters, adjustable cam >sprocket, mallory unilite distributor (and a new stock distributor), >ported/polished head, ported polished SU intake manifold, set of rebuilt >45dcoe9 with manifold webers, rear main seal conversion, crank/block >cryo treated, tri metal bearings, revington tr upper fulcrum mounting >kit, southwick axles, finned aluminum drums, tr6 front suspension, all >bearings are new, rack & pinion steering, scirocco aluminum radiator, >toyota w56 gearbox conversion, new 4:11 diff gears, all >fender/shood/doors trunk lid/spare tire lid/hardtop cut in with >winchester blue, tub interior cut in with winchester blue, (everything >was stripped to bare metal), stainless steel header, super trapp >muffler, all hydraulics are new (dual brake master cylinders), spare >toyota gearbox and an A type OD, instrumentation, spare >fenders/doors/trunk lid/ hood, stripped and refinished spare frame, >spare engine blocks/cranks/heads, electric accusump, low back race seat, >engine/gearbox/running gear/suspension/tub/fuel cell all installed (it >is a roller), frame stripped and repainted and on and on and >on............... > > > >A bunch of new little bits and pieces and rubber seals (such as those >needed to assemble the hardtop) are included, and since I am kinda >getting out of doing refurbishments I have plastic bins of hydraulics, >bearings and on and on, included. I may even throw in an aluminum TR4 >surrey top center section (needs work but is not corroded and very >restorable). > >Asking $16K, obo. > >I have pictures if interested. > >thxx, >Bob >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/grandwazoo@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 18 19:32:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD1940520 for ; Sun, 18 Aug 2013 19:32:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm30-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm30-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.252]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3EE403A0 for ; Sun, 18 Aug 2013 19:32:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.101.132] by nm30.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2013 01:31:50 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.197] by tm20.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2013 01:31:49 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1055.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2013 01:31:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 48523 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Aug 2013 01:31:49 -0000 s=s1024; t=1376875909; bh=g2HVMvdJf6cZIEUW5ACOt6qY3hd3eM+S507QoSDwUMA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6Fycs7vVuuiKSNSYDstrX6kUgvmDrs32MYX2JHQ3aB+v52Nq7w7vpHYyMXyu70C2fliQhcfqaLooMY1BFfm+pAJfIdOo5MpjDdPC12Ucj2Um4UQs/lZ85OnVUsWW2NNmglCX3Vt0dtJEX6UWnp1LrbAeNmaIs8wlhH2gH4FQWXc= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fXDQzs3kR02Ih6Z705I4toMJ9Yqh1qKy/1KyFdStU8uUg4V3HjajkezoPqen/IjsZxTC2wbAJI+/toKQIQu+JztCKNcKmofeOtN+Zoq3Nd1NX3YoodeHM8GcFSCFaVqkY+9DKWlzDEP51FMrqSTfpavIwU1mFfxZ75JkUoR5f9k=; 31jD9C024uewekCYKaNFkmVd3qO3RkDdHz83sChTELzgvg6HX5371HVSo3ym 41N4N5BseLB0m62Oq2aTM59bapJIapgKaqH8rYenBR3ooYHxo8lNAmfnd1j1 ixub_L5e4WmnYXa8Ef2qYDDktH77lqF7dUGpBq1jiiahuNpEpSyhmvz7bVe8 Nhqkt6yTl9NbpaP5yyDCk1qFRroezMvB92tTb9XRom4.oLWVG11h4RGPIDom jT3Evsj5Q.hXVAErfK88I5QY1RhmR2WUe1iM9oTZqevHzEmqwIH3Df_dvdLY Bz6DovNsFPy_9ZTq3vaINI8v2rOLp7V1nQwJ80kd1l40qtHP_B7F61i8Kibs hsbijxj1li1Qd.nUBLHVE4zA9DmQ9lJ0t9r2vmfSaQhz9V18JhjoktapqxjE SMirY4Rxp3.E7nMVwc1QTkeHA6P_KKDlvhtpGtIS.4TfYRuCMjRP_.JLmkYi VQd0T.Y3vrewbA_LZN84RHmFd5ezcAwFw._JRRU5c120iyhRpgrUp0.fgIed klw0UpAwPnULmLOM2ns0- Received: from [98.209.77.149] by web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 18 Aug 2013 18:31:49 PDT SGkgR3V5cy4uLgpBZnRlciA0MCsgeWVhcnMgb2YgcmFjaW5nLCBJIGhhdmUgZGVjaWRlZCB0byBoYW5nIHVwIG15IGhlbG1ldC7CoCBOb3QgYW4gZWFzeSBkZWNpc2lvbi7CoCBJdCBoYXMgYmVlbiAKZnVuLsKgIEkgd291bGQgcmF0aGVyIHNlbGwgdGhlIGNhciBhbmQgaGF2ZSBzb21lb25lIGVuam95IGl0IHRoYW4gbGV0IGl0IHNpdCBpbiB0aGUgZ2FyYWdlLsKgIApIZXJlIGFyZSBzb21lIG9mIHRoZSBkZXRhaWxzOgrCoAo2NyBTcGl0ZmlyZSBNS0lJCjExNDdjYyB3YXMgRy9QIG5vdyBIL1Agb3IgR1RMCkkBMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 18:31:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Duane Bailey To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Race Car For Sale.... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Guys... After 40+ years of racing, I have decided to hang up my helmet.B Not an easy decision.B It has been fun.B I would rather sell the car and have someone enjoy it than let it sit in the garage.B Here are some of the details: B 67 Spitfire MKII 1147cc was G/P now H/P or GTL I built the car and first raced it in 1974. Current legal SCCA, needs new belts. Original tub with glass bonnet, trunk lid and rear fenders. Full roll cage with low front bar. Suspension: TraxSpax coilovers all around. GT6 b front uprights, brakes and aluminum hubs. Trick adjustable B B front swaybar. Adjustable upper control arms. Rear has legal cv joint axles with relocated control arms, giving B B Minimal camber change.B Diff is raised in the frame to lower the car. Wilwood rear disc brakes.B 4.1 & 4.55 diffs, both welded. Quaiffe ultra close dog gearbox with 1.83:1 first gear. Quarter Master 5 B=b clutch & flywheel. Very strong b 110+ hp engine.B Carello rods, Cline B cam & crank damper, Stahl headers, aluminum water pump B B housing, Griffin radiator, 19 row oil cooler. Includes: Motorola car/crew radios 2-SP50 and 1-P1255 with headset, B chargers and case.B Car is wired with antenna. 3 sets of Revolution wheels. B Call for details and pricing.B Delivery negotiable.B B 616-878-5774 (Days) b 616-878-9830 (Evenings) b 616-485-7265 (Cell) B Duane Bailey - Silver #97 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 19 07:59:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F066D40407 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 07:59:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m08.mx.aol.com (omr-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.222.129]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E73403C7 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 07:58:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.67]) by omr-m08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A56F0700000A0; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 09:58:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 5B73BE000084; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 09:58:41 -0400 (EDT) References: <000001ce9ce2$115b2150$341163f0$@klaenv.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 08:58:41 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1376920721; bh=yVVLgkgCwWXTLPQ/+yJ0VJO7FHgI3MNsSwh5n9JuACs=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=zMA3WAU3oPBXtx/DXS51OL8MLaAkzCC7YOruuyT/akdIECcDqq7x8FgLZdRT5/iZx sKGjEZgVlyladQieNSN8wE0nxvReWwYBjiXBRpu4scAxPTAx2jxTjR1nJ+1W9gwtEY xY9IdVMp6aI/JdhO/2P7QcC1Mb5HefWBEwckr2/k= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2943521224915a61 Cc: deb korneli Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Testing Thur for Kas Kup. News you can use. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT KCup entrants: Courtesy of a more proactive Ken Knight, see info on Thursday Test Day, below. Cost is lower than I anticipated. The FOT garages will be available. Joe Alexander The last I looked, 29 of 65 entrants were Triumph. Good job. There should be well over 200 entries by the 5th of September. See you at 5 pm on Wednesday > To: "Joe Alexander" > > Joe: > > Would you pass the word that you can register for the test day September 5th at Road America by calling Deborah Szezepanski at 800-365-7223. The cost is $250.00. There will be four sessions of 30 mins each starting at 8:00 am and you can get on the track the night before at 5:00 pm. This test day is still not up on the website. > > Ken _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 19 08:39:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0063040453 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 08:39:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy3-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy3-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.30.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C14140396 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 08:39:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 27135 invoked by uid 0); 19 Aug 2013 14:39:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy4.unifiedlayer.com) (66.147.243.73) by gproxy3.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 2013 14:39:13 -0000 {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Received: from just64.justhost.com (just64.justhost.com [173.254.28.64]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.87); Mon, 19 Aug 2013 14:39:13 GMT Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=60526 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VBQbx-0006Qy-0k for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 08:39:13 -0600 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 09:39:12 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: [Fot] Grattan In-Car video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 19 08:46:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 790D440453 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 08:46:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f51.google.com (mail-bk0-f51.google.com [209.85.214.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE74400FF for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 08:41:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-bk0-f51.google.com with SMTP id mx10so1497863bkb.10 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 07:41:45 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=N5y7G5pYlR8hzABf6ICJAryc0zpEizw1ydQG5HJrxZU=; b=0k2OvikjS4UUso4vFaa0pKEi9gMZZZxVjy7LgtQ74CX+BwAGMEH2zt4HSMWnjhIiJn 0H0Wh7ZZ6ushRUocY49gcT5pkdV7Ljv04D71lvnm4LbzQhqHkIc+oCUQbpAEXkBcQJYD oCvdEa53gDTmZ3NzRTpLJdF0aFj5IQ8xwFJpCyo0rqcCH97a5avu+XQhBTNRquTQ84G1 8rH5QFcfyhXBh4Sm6qDrQN99qCiwRNT32iRI8+EHnRrvg3yffYwq8bDPaie9JzqkXwR1 PavraCDn6jy4WRlOil1zGN0GsUHt3OLbYbHDeEPt6hWxkmaAZrCv2p1dzXJLbrm3SKVk PeSQ== qw10mr1951637bkb.29.1376923305672; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 07:41:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([109.46.160.190]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id h7sm1698328bki.9.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 19 Aug 2013 07:41:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Tony Drews'" , References: <20130819143916.ACEC9403DF@autox.team.net> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 16:41:43 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6c6eJm4RtI9ghgTa+9N3/fuqcEbQAAEvzA Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Grattan In-Car video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Where is the video? -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Tony Drews Gesendet: Montag, 19. August 2013 16:39 An: fot@autox.team.net Betreff: [Fot] Grattan In-Car video _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 19 08:54:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64FB140544 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 08:54:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy2-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy2-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.18.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id EF97840411 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 08:54:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 24796 invoked by uid 0); 19 Aug 2013 14:54:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy4.unifiedlayer.com) (66.147.243.73) by roproxy2.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 2013 14:54:08 -0000 {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Received: from just64.justhost.com (just64.justhost.com [173.254.28.64]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.87); Mon, 19 Aug 2013 14:54:08 GMT Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=60809 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VBQqO-0001UL-Gu for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 08:54:08 -0600 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 09:54:07 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: [Fot] Grattan video take 2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In car video from Sunday afternoon race at Grattan yesterday. First attempt at the picture-in-picture rear view. I probably should edit out a couple laps in the middle. Good charge from Scott Fohrman in his MGB on the last lap. http://youtu.be/MIrX8bXWlsM Cheers, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 19 13:38:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 403FC403F8 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 13:38:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-relay-3.cniteam.com (omr-relay-3.cniteam.com [209.143.0.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F6D40333; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 13:34:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rg7.cniteam.com (rg7.cniteam.com [209.143.0.247]) by omr-relay-3.cniteam.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r7JJYEkc017897; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 15:34:14 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([216.201.14.237]) by rg7.cniteam.com (MOS 4.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id CAV12759 (AUTH tws@bright.net); Mon, 19 Aug 2013 15:34:13 -0400 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 15:34:15 -0400 From: Ted Schumacher User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: TR list , spitfires@autox.team.net, TR8 CCCA Listing refid=str=0001.0A020208.52127335.01F4, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-09-13 19:33:14, dmn=2013-04-19 10:07:54, mode=single engine Cc: FOT Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Vintage event Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello list. The week-end after Labor Day is again the big Watkins Glen Vintage Grand Prix. For those of you not going to he Kastner Cup race at Road America, this is an excellent event. We will be there with parts, accessories and apparel. If you need anything large, this is a chance for freee shipping - at least as far as getting the items to Watkins Glen. Many of our Canadian customers use this event as a chance to save shipping costs. If you need something, please let me know. We will do our best to make sure we have it at the event. Thanks for your time and "buy early, buy often". Ted -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx@bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 19 15:42:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E771C40423 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 15:42:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d05.mx.aol.com (omr-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B752C40338 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 15:39:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by omr-d05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id D273E70040674 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 17:39:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dee001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dee001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.54.65]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id A338FE000083 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 17:39:09 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net From: robertten1@aol.com Received: from 96.233.64.253 by webmail-m237.sysops.aol.com (64.12.107.163) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 19 Aug 2013 17:39:09 -0400 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 17:39:09 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1376948349; bh=5F6VBS1Iqvhk6sefqdGl1xSiw+vFRejjXSmCKNAi2rk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=X4CLc5IOyKdjisYXn2LXGRKy8uJ+dtXTZiH3KISvPIURVRzf2z0q+y9Y4VNFVnjLF mlShzUzqNbf7iN9+pDcqPLUXBLFCDPqkLMmh3mUpeUuKs5j/gmYcaOe8jUBufSzkSA YeSCB1Qdd9ykxoGLM+KrlbsbfjKpo6PbV92ZbeNk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d5212907d1858 Subject: [Fot] Shocks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici, This weekend after an autocross event a fellow participant came to me with some concerning information about my car. He told me that while working a corner on course he noticed that as a went by my right front wheel would shake just as the wheel became unloaded in the turn. He advised to check it out but asked if I had noticed any vibration or wobble in the steering. I replied I hadn't noticed. I did a quick check as the car was up on the trailer and nothing seemed out of the ordinary. On Sunday upon closer inspection as the car was jacked up I found a problem, the shock absorber was broken. There is no piston rod showing out of the body of the shock and the plastic dust cover was all crumpled. So I have a question ... has anyone ever had a shock break like this and/or is this just prone to one brand? These are Spax with the adjustable spring perch. Also these are not that old as I believe I bought them from Ted. Maybe my mistake is this is an item that needs to be changed more frequently on race cars ? Cheers, Bob T '64 Spit GT PS no I have not crashed the car or bump anything to be a cause for the failure. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 19 18:16:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667774040F for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 18:16:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7745403C8 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 18:15:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23541A0E6F for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 18:15:45 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 18:15:45 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/22.0 SeaMonkey/2.19 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Proper attire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net When taking trips, Karen and I pack with quite different styles. She'll fuss and fret for days, getting out her suitcase and putting things in, taking them out, back in, whatever. Me? Open sock drawer - friday, saturday, sunday. Open underwear drawer - friday, saturday, sunday. You get the picture. We are both planning trips in early September, but different destinations. She's going off with her family on a short vacation in California, I'm heading back to the Great Flat Spot. ( aka east of the Rockies ) But I have a bit of a dilemma. This is a major event, I should probably take some care with my appearance. But seeing as how my ride from the airport in Milwaukee to Elkhart Lake will be in a TR3, I need to pack light. So I have these nice golf shirts, I should probably take one to augment the usual array of Kastner Cup t shirts. Both nice, bright pink. One has the Ferrari logo on it. Not a British car - I'd stand out in the crowd of Triumph folks for sure, assuming I don't get beaten within an inch of my life with broken fan belts and cracked radiator hoses! So maybe the Jaguar shirt would be a better choice. Decisions, decisions. Wonder if I have Porsche swag ;-) Yes, at this point I am planning on attending, showing up thursday night. I may or may not need a ride to the Milwaukee airport sunday, we shall see. Looking forward to this event and seeing so many of you. Hope my beer money lasts all weekend, I owe a few to various folks. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 19 18:52:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5152B4044B for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 18:52:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc3-s12.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc3-s12.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.87]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D567C40323 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 18:52:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W18 ([65.55.116.74]) by blu0-omc3-s12.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 19 Aug 2013 17:52:37 -0700 From: marty sukey To: Mark J Bradakis , FOT Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 20:52:37 -0400 References: <5212B531.5090503@bradakis.com> FILETIME=[90B1B970:01CE9D3F] Subject: Re: [Fot] Proper attire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Forget about the beer money. I have a feeling we'll have you covered. You are worrying me with the pink Ferrari shirts though. :) Looking forward to finally meeting you! Marty ---------------------------------------- > Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 18:15:45 -0600 > From: mark@bradakis.com > To: FOT@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Proper attire > > When taking trips, Karen and I pack with quite different styles. She'll > fuss and fret for > days, getting out her suitcase and putting things in, taking them out, > back in, whatever. > Me? Open sock drawer - friday, saturday, sunday. Open underwear drawer > - friday, saturday, > sunday. You get the picture. > > We are both planning trips in early September, but different > destinations. She's going off > with her family on a short vacation in California, I'm heading back to > the Great Flat Spot. > ( aka east of the Rockies ) But I have a bit of a dilemma. This is a > major event, I should > probably take some care with my appearance. But seeing as how my ride > from the airport > in Milwaukee to Elkhart Lake will be in a TR3, I need to pack light. > > So I have these nice golf shirts, I should probably take one to augment > the usual array of > Kastner Cup t shirts. Both nice, bright pink. One has the Ferrari logo > on it. Not a British > car - I'd stand out in the crowd of Triumph folks for sure, assuming I > don't get beaten > within an inch of my life with broken fan belts and cracked radiator > hoses! So maybe the > Jaguar shirt would be a better choice. Decisions, decisions. Wonder if > I have Porsche swag ;-) > > Yes, at this point I am planning on attending, showing up thursday > night. I may or may not > need a ride to the Milwaukee airport sunday, we shall see. > > Looking forward to this event and seeing so many of you. Hope my beer > money lasts all > weekend, I owe a few to various folks. > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 19 19:02:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86DD440453 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 19:02:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ye0-f177.google.com (mail-ye0-f177.google.com [209.85.213.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9587A40323 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 18:56:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ye0-f177.google.com with SMTP id r13so236620yen.8 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 17:56:00 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-gm-message-state:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=Vvzux6PZKNVVCQE1Mo4JIP549iErT1qwDT9ECb1dzb0=; b=QCw26ovi1Uu9ndyhRlPBE6Mya9M8j1xLSqFCvpw4PQd8bvj1+6tccxESIAxV9QetYs P+Lkqe+VJCWeWW2egHOANsrqTGL8EMwa2T7TC11ww0hJfjaiAmoeggIsedw0mMKUHoq4 zWCENVd31X5N+YGO1xf0XsyeUIptA6Kfpbfq0At3q8koM+ZeQg2u7lmFWeCDNQSEvPi/ CVbr4LIv6z9RuMnMSS/1WbrjyRYI8eZ2m61VCHfsUDq22KN+7avLiMBDfz7nb6i3jRe6 jQTYzOJNANoAiWEUymjhr8JRarZpP0kNH72yOEkMIoEbMWOtOCD4yxxkZWct8ieQAN+o 2Z9A== l42mr16122171yhm.26.1376960160287; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 17:56:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.89] ([198.105.83.219]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 48sm17243701yhq.11.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 19 Aug 2013 17:55:59 -0700 (PDT) References: <5212B531.5090503@bradakis.com> From: Bob Bownes - Seiri Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 20:55:58 -0400 To: marty sukey Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Proper attire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net He's just showing he's secure in his masculinity by wearing a Ferrari shirt. I can't explain the pink part tho. On Aug 19, 2013, at 20:52, marty sukey wrote: > Forget about the beer money. I have a feeling we'll have you covered. You are > worrying me with the pink Ferrari shirts though. :) > > Looking forward to finally meeting you! > > Marty > > ---------------------------------------- >> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 18:15:45 -0600 >> From: mark@bradakis.com >> To: FOT@autox.team.net >> Subject: [Fot] Proper attire >> >> When taking trips, Karen and I pack with quite different styles. She'll >> fuss and fret for >> days, getting out her suitcase and putting things in, taking them out, >> back in, whatever. >> Me? Open sock drawer - friday, saturday, sunday. Open underwear drawer >> - friday, saturday, >> sunday. You get the picture. >> >> We are both planning trips in early September, but different >> destinations. She's going off >> with her family on a short vacation in California, I'm heading back to >> the Great Flat Spot. >> ( aka east of the Rockies ) But I have a bit of a dilemma. This is a >> major event, I should >> probably take some care with my appearance. But seeing as how my ride >> from the airport >> in Milwaukee to Elkhart Lake will be in a TR3, I need to pack light. >> >> So I have these nice golf shirts, I should probably take one to augment >> the usual array of >> Kastner Cup t shirts. Both nice, bright pink. One has the Ferrari logo >> on it. Not a British >> car - I'd stand out in the crowd of Triumph folks for sure, assuming I >> don't get beaten >> within an inch of my life with broken fan belts and cracked radiator >> hoses! So maybe the >> Jaguar shirt would be a better choice. Decisions, decisions. Wonder if >> I have Porsche swag ;-) >> >> Yes, at this point I am planning on attending, showing up thursday >> night. I may or may not >> need a ride to the Milwaukee airport sunday, we shall see. >> >> Looking forward to this event and seeing so many of you. Hope my beer >> money lasts all >> weekend, I owe a few to various folks. >> >> mjb. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 19 19:22:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D87740453 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 19:22:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp2.pacifier.net (smtp2.pacifier.net [64.255.237.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE11E403D8 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 19:21:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.2.101] (static-72-67-118-198.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [72.67.118.198]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp2.pacifier.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81EC32CA25; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 18:21:40 -0700 (PDT) References: <5212B531.5090503@bradakis.com> From: "J. Wagner" Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 18:21:39 -0700 To: Mark J Bradakis Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Proper attire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In the mid 90's, one of my best friends from college invited me to a USC vs. Stanford game in Northern Cal. We would drive up in his TR8 and some old frat buddies of his offered us floor space in their "motel". So I'm thinking Motel 6, dinner at Sizzler, bleachers at Stanford, hopping college bars, back to Motel 6, and a morning cruise back to Los Angeles in the TR. Space in a TR8 is limited as well as the space in a shared motel, so I packed extremely light and didn't think to bring anything particularly "nice". When we arrived in San Francisco, I discovered the address was for the Embarcadero, a four star hotel. We arrived just in time to join his friends for dinner. His friends were in coats and ties. Transportation was a limosene. Embarrassed by my clothing, I slipped away after dinner and sought my own bar to lose myself in a bottle while they bar hopped. How badly was I dressed? Well, when I finally got back to the hotel, well after 2 am, the doorman didn't want to let me in as he assumed I was homeless! And the alcohol on breath, lack of a key, and a foggy grasp of my hosts' names did not help! (It took some smooth talking to get to the elevator!) Early the next morning, I slipped out while my friend and our hosts were getting dressed for breakfast. I hit a men's clothing store across the street, that I had eyed the night before, that was just opening their doors. I bought a whole wardrobe: shoes, socks, pants, belt, shirt, sweater, and a high end wool jacket. I asked to wear the outfit out of the store. When I returned to the room, there was a great commotion, as they all wondered how this magical transformation had occurred! I said, "I like to travel light. That's what the American Express card is for!" Turns out, the night before, everyone had assumed that I was just some guy that worked for their fellow frat buddy. They didn't realize I actually went to USC and graduated the same year as them! There were many apologies as everyone assumed they had probably snubbed me to some extent. (Though, in reality, they had treated me reasonably well despite my Charles Dicken's attire.) There is a moral to this story... I now never fail to bring a wide ranging wardrobe to cover the unknowns. I am still able to pack quickly, but I don't skimp any more than absolutely necessary to stay within reason. I've been the target of verbal jabs on the front end of business trips by fellow employees or employers who chose carry-ons over suitcases, but then when we discovered that we were actually going to nice places with VIPs at night, and I actually could dress properly for each occasion, or foul weather came into play, and I was the only one with gloves and long johns, etc. Suddenly my medium sized single bag, over their carry-on bags, etc., didn't seem so bad! Last year, I worked in New York for a week. Needless to say, I was dressed right at work and at play, every day, but I only had one checked bag and a carry-on. --Justin On Aug 19, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > When taking trips, Karen and I pack with quite different styles. She'll fuss and fret for > days, getting out her suitcase and putting things in, taking them out, back in, whatever. > Me? Open sock drawer - friday, saturday, sunday. Open underwear drawer - friday, saturday, > sunday. You get the picture. > > We are both planning trips in early September, but different destinations. She's going off > with her family on a short vacation in California, I'm heading back to the Great Flat Spot. > ( aka east of the Rockies ) But I have a bit of a dilemma. This is a major event, I should > probably take some care with my appearance. But seeing as how my ride from the airport > in Milwaukee to Elkhart Lake will be in a TR3, I need to pack light. > > So I have these nice golf shirts, I should probably take one to augment the usual array of > Kastner Cup t shirts. Both nice, bright pink. One has the Ferrari logo on it. Not a British > car - I'd stand out in the crowd of Triumph folks for sure, assuming I don't get beaten > within an inch of my life with broken fan belts and cracked radiator hoses! So maybe the > Jaguar shirt would be a better choice. Decisions, decisions. Wonder if I have Porsche swag ;-) > > Yes, at this point I am planning on attending, showing up thursday night. I may or may not > need a ride to the Milwaukee airport sunday, we shall see. > > Looking forward to this event and seeing so many of you. Hope my beer money lasts all > weekend, I owe a few to various folks. > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jmwagner@greenheart.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 19 19:48:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8426740443 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 19:48:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail202c2.megamailservers.com (mail202c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE03403D8 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 19:44:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.244.32.9] (229.sub-174-237-50.myvzw.com [174.237.50.229]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail202c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r7K1i1c6002013 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 19 Aug 2013 21:44:04 -0400 References: <5212B531.5090503@bradakis.com> From: John Hasty Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 21:43:58 -0400 To: Mark J Bradakis a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=/7EOc9gOjEeqv42BD35Ucw==:17 a=k9IzgLeNAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=k_yXo-sS-E3_hFHcaTwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=T1jTriLPLxoA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=/7EOc9gOjEeqv42BD35Ucw==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Proper attire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If you must wear an Italian shirt please make it Alfa Romero ( my street car). Ride to air port available Monday morning from Sheboygan. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 19, 2013, at 8:15 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > When taking trips, Karen and I pack with quite different styles. She'll fuss and fret for > days, getting out her suitcase and putting things in, taking them out, back in, whatever. > Me? Open sock drawer - friday, saturday, sunday. Open underwear drawer - friday, saturday, > sunday. You get the picture. > > We are both planning trips in early September, but different destinations. She's going off > with her family on a short vacation in California, I'm heading back to the Great Flat Spot. > ( aka east of the Rockies ) But I have a bit of a dilemma. This is a major event, I should > probably take some care with my appearance. But seeing as how my ride from the airport > in Milwaukee to Elkhart Lake will be in a TR3, I need to pack light. > > So I have these nice golf shirts, I should probably take one to augment the usual array of > Kastner Cup t shirts. Both nice, bright pink. One has the Ferrari logo on it. Not a British > car - I'd stand out in the crowd of Triumph folks for sure, assuming I don't get beaten > within an inch of my life with broken fan belts and cracked radiator hoses! So maybe the > Jaguar shirt would be a better choice. Decisions, decisions. Wonder if I have Porsche swag ;-) > > Yes, at this point I am planning on attending, showing up thursday night. I may or may not > need a ride to the Milwaukee airport sunday, we shall see. > > Looking forward to this event and seeing so many of you. Hope my beer money lasts all > weekend, I owe a few to various folks. > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 19 20:51:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37FC140329 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 20:51:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B7B403DF for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 20:51:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA630A0E6F for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 20:51:07 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 20:51:07 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/22.0 SeaMonkey/2.19 To: FOT References: <5212B531.5090503@bradakis.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Proper attire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net marty sukey wrote: > You are worrying me with the pink Ferrari shirts though. :) > > They came from my brother in law who passed away a couple of years ago. He was involved with Cave Creek European in Cave Creek, Arizona for quite some time. They dealt with high end cars, mostly German, but some Jaguar. A fair number of his clothes fit me, and they were too good to just throw out. The best part is my sister sends me some of his tools from time to time. I wish I could drive my truck down there and haul his big red wagon home, fully loaded. Oh well. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 07:09:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B643403E3 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 07:09:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F681400A4 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 07:09:41 -0600 (MDT) a=GY3qpzaqjAnTJxGPJo7Cpg==:17 a=t2QnnntYVAkA:10 a=U6acLxpIUvYA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=ml9yaOiQjjsA:10 a=zJGr7tGUAAAA:8 a=g5y1US__LcWCU2uMDH4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=GY3qpzaqjAnTJxGPJo7Cpg==:117 Received: from [76.84.97.85] ([76.84.97.85:4960] helo=guinanhp) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 3D/C3-18468-49A63125; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:09:41 +0000 From: "Joe Guinan" To: , References: Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 08:10:54 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac6dUERZVClAe7XnRw6sLHkQMNU3jQAVaLoA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Fot Digest, Vol 81, Issue 33 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Your beer money is no good in Wisconsin, I think we all owe you more than a few beers. I'll have a case or two of Spotted Cow on ice - local Wisconsin brew from New Glarus Brewery - http://www.newglarusbrewing.com/index.cfm/beers/OurBeers/Beer/spotted-cow Also, I can get you to Milwaukee if necessary - I do have a passenger in my small truck, but I can go down and back to drop you off or we can work something out if a better ride does not appear. Joe Guinan Fremont, NE ---------------------------------Original Message--------------------------- Looking forward to this event and seeing so many of you. Hope my beer money lasts all weekend, I owe a few to various folks. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 08:12:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77DE40443 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 08:12:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.159]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC4F4003E for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 08:07:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Charly (unknown [97.126.74.225]) (Authenticated sender: charly@mitchelplumbing.com) by smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C8F435D8078; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 09:07:47 -0500 (CDT) From: "Charly Mitchel" To: "John Hasty" , "Mark J Bradakis" References: <5212B531.5090503@bradakis.com> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 07:07:45 -0700 Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Proper attire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net "please make it Alfa Romero ( my street car)." Is this any relation to the Joker, Caesar Romero? I always thought it was Romeo Charly Mitchel ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hasty" To: "Mark J Bradakis" Cc: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Proper attire > If you must wear an Italian shirt please make it Alfa Romero ( my street car). > Ride to air port available Monday morning from Sheboygan. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 19, 2013, at 8:15 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > >> When taking trips, Karen and I pack with quite different styles. She'll fuss > and fret for >> days, getting out her suitcase and putting things in, taking them out, back > in, whatever. >> Me? Open sock drawer - friday, saturday, sunday. Open underwear drawer - > friday, saturday, >> sunday. You get the picture. >> >> We are both planning trips in early September, but different destinations. > She's going off >> with her family on a short vacation in California, I'm heading back to the > Great Flat Spot. >> ( aka east of the Rockies ) But I have a bit of a dilemma. This is a major > event, I should >> probably take some care with my appearance. But seeing as how my ride from > the airport >> in Milwaukee to Elkhart Lake will be in a TR3, I need to pack light. >> >> So I have these nice golf shirts, I should probably take one to augment the > usual array of >> Kastner Cup t shirts. Both nice, bright pink. One has the Ferrari logo on > it. Not a British >> car - I'd stand out in the crowd of Triumph folks for sure, assuming I don't > get beaten >> within an inch of my life with broken fan belts and cracked radiator hoses! > So maybe the >> Jaguar shirt would be a better choice. Decisions, decisions. Wonder if I > have Porsche swag ;-) >> >> Yes, at this point I am planning on attending, showing up thursday night. I > may or may not >> need a ride to the Milwaukee airport sunday, we shall see. >> >> Looking forward to this event and seeing so many of you. Hope my beer money > lasts all >> weekend, I owe a few to various folks. >> >> mjb. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 09:16:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632B340453 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 09:16:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail168c2.megamailservers.com (mail168c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7644A40421 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 09:13:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail168c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r7KFDh0d019735; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 11:13:48 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: "'Charly Mitchel'" , "'Mark J Bradakis'" References: <5212B531.5090503@bradakis.com> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 11:13:42 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6drqiropOCpAEkRfycdttNO2siXQACRwNg a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=p_3VnqCNAAAA:8 a=k9IzgLeNAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=R-lDRW4HqtiVhHn3r6MA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=W4oarAnCkt8A:10 a=T1jTriLPLxoA:10 a=AXI0zePVsOyVJ5A_:21 a=lwTN5rFn8yQISeWq:21 a=2tt9z4lq1wxhizh2pOsA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=GuCWV9_GXR6Fo5fI:21 a=jeQR_H4yb6OKSpBF:21 a=3l8vdhoDUWMfE34V:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Proper attire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net my Iphone made me do it! big thumbs and small phone = bad spellllling John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. _____ From: Charly Mitchel [mailto:charly@mitchelplumbing.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:08 AM To: John Hasty; Mark J Bradakis Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Proper attire "please make it Alfa Romero ( my street car)." Is this any relation to the Joker, Caesar Romero? I always thought it was Romeo Charly Mitchel ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Proper attire > If you must wear an Italian shirt please make it Alfa Romero ( my street car). > Ride to air port available Monday morning from Sheboygan. > > Sent from my iPhone > mark@bradakis.com> wrote: > >> When taking trips, Karen and I pack with quite different styles. She'll fuss > and fret for >> days, getting out her suitcase and putting things in, taking them out, back > in, whatever. >> Me? Open sock drawer - friday, saturday, sunday. Open underwear drawer - > friday, saturday, >> sunday. You get the picture. >> >> We are both planning trips in early September, but different destinations. > She's going off >> with her family on a short vacation in California, I'm heading back to the > Great Flat Spot. >> ( aka east of the Rockies ) But I have a bit of a dilemma. This is a major > event, I should >> probably take some care with my appearance. But seeing as how my ride from > the airport >> in Milwaukee to Elkhart Lake will be in a TR3, I need to pack light. >> >> So I have these nice golf shirts, I should probably take one to augment the > usual array of >> Kastner Cup t shirts. Both nice, bright pink. One has the Ferrari logo on > it. Not a British >> car - I'd stand out in the crowd of Triumph folks for sure, assuming I don't > get beaten >> within an inch of my life with broken fan belts and cracked radiator hoses! > So maybe the >> Jaguar shirt would be a better choice. Decisions, decisions. Wonder if I > have Porsche swag ;-) >> >> Yes, at this point I am planning on attending, showing up thursday night. I > may or may not >> need a ride to the Milwaukee airport sunday, we shall see. >> >> Looking forward to this event and seeing so many of you. Hope my beer money > lasts all >> weekend, I owe a few to various folks. >> >> mjb. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 09:26:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A3374044F for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 09:26:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from e9.ny.us.ibm.com (e9.ny.us.ibm.com [32.97.182.139]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C5C400A4 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 09:19:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from /spool/local by e9.ny.us.ibm.com with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! Violators will be prosecuted for from ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 11:19:52 -0400 Received: from d01dlp03.pok.ibm.com (9.56.250.168) by e9.ny.us.ibm.com (192.168.1.109) with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! Violators will be prosecuted; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 11:19:50 -0400 Received: from b01cxnp22033.gho.pok.ibm.com (b01cxnp22033.gho.pok.ibm.com [9.57.198.23]) by d01dlp03.pok.ibm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0208EC90046 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 11:19:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d01av03.pok.ibm.com (d01av03.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.217]) by b01cxnp22033.gho.pok.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id r7KFJJoi25624684 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:19:19 GMT Received: from d01av03.pok.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d01av03.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id r7KFJJlp008525 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:19:19 -0300 Received: from d01ml099.pok.ibm.com (d01ml099.pok.ibm.com [9.63.8.34]) by d01av03.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVin) with ESMTP id r7KFJJwQ008520 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:19:19 -0300 References: To: fot@autox.team.net From: George Harmuth Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 11:19:12 -0400 ZX853FP2HF5|February, 2013) at 08/20/2013 11:19:19 x-cbid: 13082015-7182-0000-0000-000008267F94 Subject: Re: [Fot] Shocks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I had a SPAX shock break like that and didn't notice it during the entire weekend at the K-Cup at the Glen a few years ago. I had let my crew drive the car during a track day the week before at Pocono and there was some off road action that I'm sure was the cause. It wasn't visible until I jacked the car way up, a week after the Glen, to bleed the brakes. The plastic boot was keeping the shock centered in the tower so I had compression but no rebound dampening, the gas in the shock must have kept the shock extended. The car actually ran well, I got the hard charger award from Optimum batterys for passing the most cars during the race. mike G. Michael Harmuth Software Engineer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 10:15:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD4740442 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 10:15:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.23.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0026540334 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 10:15:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 10472 invoked by uid 0); 20 Aug 2013 16:15:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy5.unifiedlayer.com) (66.147.243.74) by gproxy4.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 20 Aug 2013 16:15:43 -0000 {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Received: from just64.justhost.com (just64.justhost.com [173.254.28.64]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.87); Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:15:43 GMT Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=55392 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VBoat-0001Ui-4e; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 10:15:43 -0600 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 11:15:41 -0500 To: George Harmuth ,fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews us.ibm.com> References: {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] Shocks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I will say that shocks normally last longer than that. In my case, I've still got the stops that prevent the wheel from drooping too much in place, so the shock is not what performs that action - that may help, but in Jack's car he didn't have those (unnecessary weight, you know...) and his front shocks were never replaced. Tony Drews At 10:19 AM 8/20/2013, George Harmuth wrote: >I had a SPAX shock break like that and didn't notice it during the entire >weekend at the K-Cup at the Glen a few years ago. I had let my crew drive >the car during a track day the week before at Pocono and there was some off >road action that I'm sure was the cause. It wasn't visible until I jacked >the car way up, a week after the Glen, to bleed the brakes. The plastic >boot was keeping the shock centered in the tower so I had compression but >no rebound dampening, the gas in the shock must have kept the shock >extended. The car actually ran well, I got the hard charger award from >Optimum batterys for passing the most cars during the race. > >mike > >G. Michael Harmuth >Software Engineer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 11:30:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 852574043F for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 11:30:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m07.mx.aol.com (omr-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34EBB40324 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 11:24:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.196]) by omr-m07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id D66CF70035465 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:23:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 1FF1FE0000EA for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:23:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:23:52 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377019437; bh=gTgw3xzZK9js1PosKO/Y7Ykj/ktJZJgEpWy4gfXMVIw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=rccgVu8De7IE+L7sLWn3Y4KG/jzQ6ZPML+fFWPKhuBUw45Wcge2+TJvuoSYaBsCCL w4gZGkHcWyO4vmO4tdeVxozhBMZNsHt93eumlbO5MtpRaFAOhlnU8YN1AxepZwIMx+ RtxFJBHytOmdemdkOd8hWXt4SAk+TLfz+K5/ubkc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c45213a6294d86 Subject: [Fot] Entries & Test & Overcrew Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Drivers: We are at 38 entries and climbing. VSCDA is curious about how many folks are doing the RA Test Day. Friends: The Triumph Package Deal was a killer offering but the deadline is past. Now your choices are Getting a Crew Pass, getting an Over Crew Pass, or Paying at the Gate. The count down to the Kastner Cup is now.... Thanks for all of the support and cooperation. JHA _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 11:47:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A8A40511 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 11:47:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.q.com (smtp.quartz.synacor.com [205.169.121.111]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16FA740416 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 11:47:05 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=MVt/OeM/O+V7psr6YXG+1g==:117 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=6xkc5M4UcgEA:10 a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=5uzyEDg2IGAA:10 a=BM2Wo2QsAAAA:8 a=eXecitkis0AA:10 a=PknxSbMzM16meLdAMH8A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=1aFBwXBsZPPTXrWU:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Authentication-Results: smtp02.quartz.synacor.com smtp.mail=cofrog@q.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.quartz.synacor.com header.from=cofrog@q.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp02.quartz.synacor.com: transitional domain q.com does not designate 10.30.7.251 as permitted sender) Received: from [10.30.7.251] ([10.30.7.251:41876] helo=md04.quartz.synacor.com) by smtp.q.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id 28/EE-00536-89BA3125; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:47:04 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:47:04 -0400 (EDT) From: cofrog@q.com To: triumph fot (Win)/6.0.8_GA_2685) Subject: [Fot] Crew Passes K Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Listers, I'm running the #144 TR4 "The Black Pearl" at the RMVR event in Hasting the weekend before the K Cup. My budget precludes towing it to Road America and competing. However my "pit crew" of one and I are driving there to spectate and steal beer. I was depending on some of the RMVR Triumph drivers who were planning to run the K Cup to score two crew passes. For various and a sundry reasons only Jim Gray is coming from RMVR and his are spoken for so I'm in need of two crew passes for us. In trade you will be provided questionable advice, the need to guard your beer and good karma. Thanks, Dan Forgey _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 12:01:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C19740451 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:01:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d04.mx.aol.com (omr-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.201]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96D5C403EA for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 11:58:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.131]) by omr-d04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A784D7000009E; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:58:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 358BEE0000AB; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:58:17 -0400 (EDT) References: <7E2F8B91-3A79-4F28-BDFB-D9A4E4C848DA@cs.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:58:15 -0500 To: Scott Janzen x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377021501; bh=wp8pHc9qZ9W652ln/vx5KhxmhVlU3WvzAlrlfIFjpx0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=Wd3uhMA6YJeEudJ9Bn1EMkuBW6NIkmgfk1BBnM6jbi/X8akCj2RZvGrkpFrTpcmEL TTgT2NpwPCMjIrxEVbSDNG1Zju+bBZWWIvATYwMmgzZfELF2+tYICCCikW1NSMpFZb Gppn1wbgFUzXzBgnMZLu/BiOY5Jad/RDVjEZeoPQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33835213ae385b95 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries & Test & Overcrew Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Scott, et.al. There are 29 cars shown at the moment on the website........ Go into VSCDA website Go to event ELVF Click on e-registration Click on "entries" at the menu at the top. Entries are shown in alphabetic order so far. Back to work....we are behind the power curve on two cars, but hopeful. Joe Sent from my iPad On Aug 20, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Scott Janzen wrote: > Joe, is the entry list available to look at? Can't find it on the VSCDA website. > Still need to sign up myself. Hopefully will fire up the car tonight, run it through the gears tonight, and know I'm ready to commit. > > Scott > GT6 > > On Aug 20, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > Drivers: > > We are at 38 entries and climbing. > > VSCDA is curious about how many folks are doing the RA Test Day. > > Friends: > > The Triumph Package Deal was a killer offering but the deadline is past. > > Now your choices are Getting a Crew Pass, getting an Over Crew Pass, or Paying > at the Gate. > > The count down to the Kastner Cup is now.... > > Thanks for all of the support and cooperation. > > JHA > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 12:32:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA5B40452 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:32:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d06.mx.aol.com (omr-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D2A7403EA for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:26:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.132]) by omr-d06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B0CF9700D9121 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:26:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 14C99E000205 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:26:45 -0400 (EDT) References: <000001ce9ce2$115b2150$341163f0$@klaenv.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:26:45 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377023208; bh=9jjBW4Nwner9zqRnI3TOegnHycLDnICtSWLAu0aaMf4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=gsLrfZ5fHlft1GAwgwJdMH96EQbu1ufsO+NnBbJ/BcIJ5lCiRl87++bhyXK5WU470 /TFVU6K+3dqGdTDH3S3X4IYt5/tlrInQf5GmZ5rwt4qnPhuaYufcj6vR3A4LcEAgCv CixTFMjDBCfKxoDsCt7WL1IGF6J+iCyaumig4P5c= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33845213b4e45750 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Testing Thur for Kas Kup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I posted this to the list a few days ago, but getting questions. So I will post again. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: "Kenneth Knight" > Date: August 19, 2013, 8:43:20 AM CDT > To: "Joe Alexander" > Subject: Testing Thur for Kas Kup > > Joe: > > Would you pass the word that you can register for the test day September 5th at Road America by calling Deborah Szezepanski at 800-365-7223. The cost is $250.00. There will be four sessions of 30 mins each starting at 8:00 am and you can get on the track the night before at 5:00 pm. This test day is still not up on the website. > > Ken _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 12:33:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDEC440557 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:33:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81186403EA for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:29:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.99.61] (c-76-99-29-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [76.99.29.73]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.07(7.0.4.27.6) 64bit (built Jun 21 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0MRU00IYKE1C0130@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:29:38 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-08-20_08:2013-08-20,2013-08-20,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1308200111 From: Scott Janzen Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:29:35 -0400 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph References: <7E2F8B91-3A79-4F28-BDFB-D9A4E4C848DA@cs.com> <3040A6CD-51E2-4B73-96DC-1088B36B29AF@cs.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are the GT6s? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net what happened to the GT6 racers? I see Chuck on the list but no one else. One of the reasons for me to make a 14 hour tow is to be on the track with some other GT6s (he says, whining). Are you guys just procrastinating like I am? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 12:36:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D67C40450 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:36:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d02.mx.aol.com (omr-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D270C403EA for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:36:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.198]) by omr-d02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 107AB700E9C0D; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:36:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 0AE8AE000135; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:36:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:36:26 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377023790; bh=fSNMIuykHoYIWsJ5F5PH3YGXQELUE/s3bKxUiLzp9Z0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=C0NTBs6ePHobQbeNXEaCcYRGLl+LXI0IfParoDcXvOJLF1ECr21NZ4vX3WQBvyDRE EZLGQsrZRxa/2jMKAcBUNfG3uzfJdADRK4TCRh4V83K/AgNFSZp+ryj/xHAtpSnRu5 7HmjD6pYkpbwxItXscOSPcVfc4Z1h/5WDACa2dY8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c65213b72a1fd9 Cc: deb korneli Subject: [Fot] Registration for Triumphs at Gate 6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net VSCDA requested some support at registration at our own TRIUMPH window. This is a very nice feature if you understand how registration works. I have a few potential volunteers: Jeff Snook Joan DeLap Tammy Frank May be a couple more folks from Iowa. Deb Korneli would like to make contact with these people to develop a schedule. There may be other folks who like to participate and become involved. Please contact Dkorneli54@charter.net I sense the duty will be more fun than work, so jump in. Thanks! If you have any questions, please ask me. Joe Alexander _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 13:21:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 805FF400A4 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:21:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d07.mx.aol.com (omr-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70DFF40323 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:18:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.4]) by omr-d07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 18553700E9789; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:18:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id CD7D8E00009B; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:18:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:18:47 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377026328; bh=TKZpDtE2Ty531GVHvSgoGuir0KfwXbTTQHoA22CUdaw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=OVz1NjdqGxSxt9B9NN8j8ZWrCg39vwNG1QRXG9BrewVic5XLJZXs5ngzZ7J0tdw6D ne88soOKSmIK00qjDPEeGVEF07yt9ikLm6cKpvehJWpQ36ZSD42zrbpy44M2zfLMMV 4rJDq4qMB0l/44YeDsOcUqejz0cnHw9RSd9EgzWE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29045213c1177026 Cc: deb korneli Subject: [Fot] Triumph Royalty at the KCup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT: I got a call from ex-factory Triumph Driver, Bob Johns, a couple of weeks ago. He has been in contact with Dan Fowler, the first American Winner at the Nurburgring in the new TR2. As far as I know, Dan Fowler, will be joining us in the Triumph Garages. Of course, Bob drove at Nurburgring and again at Sebring, co driving with Mike Rothschild, Mordy Dunst's father-in-law. Be sure to pay attention to Marty Sukey's custom name tags the first couple days. You may be standing next to Triumph Royalty, with great personal history. Getting names on the event poster is one of our features. This year they may go on the back of the poster as we will likely run out of room. Joe A _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 13:36:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8EC40415 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:36:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f173.google.com (mail-ob0-f173.google.com [209.85.214.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F091F403CF for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:36:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f173.google.com with SMTP id ta17so1386240obb.4 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:36:19 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date:content-type :mime-version; bh=dbfb1UN+M3fg84cs00FkdyFwe0xEOen5mXawOWrSdqc=; b=WnFaPG2/SXE9Ptp3EVrTYy0w/qgbgV6sa8ithC2et0Ks7x/9FiDQcs4CT5cjvr8kt9 oWuU/YpJug9m0jdksXfd4J72Cs5RQ2Dm/Kok611OrlgrUrz9Rk61B/Z+fEap2gg0wHcd bq6xZOf4MtKEWvgI7fCKWVrRWmDWR8k3xIQ4rZ0078LneZDfgTzJjwkDFKo/PYDrrJUA 8E6dBRBtP/smoIstGGeIbpnzviYGIjMK/9rWIqMZiZcX9jzyTHsZO0hLNfZFTa6AWkbH Y13KxjkwY2QWRiXbIDU0ehdsMQeqixF6mTZpRRG8vA3hEOwtxnBoAKcGrL62r+6XIwjL sLJw== wm11mr3687378obc.26.1377027379663; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.187 (bda-74-82-80-176.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ps5sm4192089oeb.8.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Sensitivity: Normal To: "Scott Janzen" ,fot-bounces@autox.team.net,"'Friends of Triumph' Triumph" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:36:07 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are the GT6s? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I registered a few days ago. But note guys, GT6's are in group 8B2 not group two. Chuck registered for group 2 and that is for older TR's. We will all obviously run together in the cup. And in some of the other mixed class races. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing I will be racing the BRG#69 Zippy car and bringing along the Yellow #27 as well as my Dads original race car (freshly restored). Yep, it'll be a 3 car historical tribute to GT6 under the FGR tent. ------Original Message------ From: Scott Janzen To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are the GT6s? Sent: Aug 20, 2013 1:29 PM what happened to the GT6 racers? I see Chuck on the list but no one else. One of the reasons for me to make a 14 hour tow is to be on the track with some other GT6s (he says, whining). Are you guys just procrastinating like I am? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 13:47:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E194041D for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:47:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f53.google.com (mail-pa0-f53.google.com [209.85.220.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51EBD403EE; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:42:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id lb1so1115361pab.12 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:42:01 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=VDLjVJZ6I9gH8ih8ztQTMTXcitoNU4O/ifJYWOukFZ0=; b=Sq3nwlPAXZravXHg2yU/POEBiIZIEpbwGqvORPRjvT1miq/bnGUdQxxsijsqU46mJW 7yDW4uwRViSNJHxSmidxwrKfVnlS3qnHo1IpgUk8MJ/A5VSgu8jc4b2qSUoyweSbuSF3 OFddQYLFokKSscDIU4Nojno1madVz94D0oK5/zZ8wjmcmcBde+OeinuLqvX8MJVhp/rn a5NfkZAbUdc5Vuxu2FNRl3ENztfNaMziPftV5IZc+BmXYNXPAaNMqO2rRFDt7Jm75EE6 ntNQcu721h4JmBSO6iJFx8mOoqAAkJuazK2xp4LHNj1NWyJG/omWfBj+VswJ74AGDde+ yXYw== hb7mr3740738pbc.82.1377027721425; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.248.39 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:41:41 -0700 (PDT) References: <20130820193714.69C334044C@autox.team.net> From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:41:41 -0700 To: Jason Ostrowski Cc: fot-bounces@autox.team.net, 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are the GT6s? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net And the TR6s are in Group 8, class C so we will be one happy 6 cylinder family! On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:36 PM, wrote: > I registered a few days ago. But note guys, GT6's are in group 8B2 not > group two. Chuck registered for group 2 and that is for older TR's. We will > all obviously run together in the cup. And in some of the other mixed class > races. > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > I will be racing the BRG#69 Zippy car and bringing along the Yellow #27 as > well as my Dads original race car (freshly restored). > Yep, it'll be a 3 car historical tribute to GT6 under the FGR tent. > ------Original Message------ > From: Scott Janzen > Sender: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph > Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are the GT6s? > Sent: Aug 20, 2013 1:29 PM > > what happened to the GT6 racers? I see Chuck on the list but no one else. > One of the reasons for me to make a 14 hour tow is to be on the track with > some other GT6s (he says, whining). > > Are you guys just procrastinating like I am? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com > > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 13:55:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD3640424 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:55:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d09.mx.aol.com (omr-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EFD9403F2 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:55:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by omr-d09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 44E28700F4A7D; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:55:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtd003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtd003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.201]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 11F57E000089; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:55:37 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:55:36 -0400 (EDT) To: n197tr4@cs.com, sjanzen@me.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377028537; bh=O93RWkumckSOloT0LgFJRG21rs9S044vLhLFJ0Ch9rY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ES/l2oyX7VQT5XNnejlLGAhYl3z38TTDsfM73566IENMF96oTAzGSjGW+lKAQLLBH ajeJvV2hKP9D2j0rK91D8K0QzxZFNHqGj7d04ZfD1iwjJcoIAFj9AuDiGifpjY3ioD Kb4mJ1eY/ZZFLxn4js2gpVkLNDVgPeBLXZ5jifGs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29485213c9b95fb4 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries & Test & Overcrew Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 08/20/2013 1:01:22 PM Central Daylight Time, n197tr4@cs.com writes: > Scott, et.al. > > There are 29 cars shown at the moment on the website........ > > Go into VSCDA website > Go to event ELVF > Click on e-registration > Click on "entries" at the menu at the top. > > Entries are shown in alphabetic order so far. > > Back to work....we are behind the power curve on two cars, but hopeful. > Joe... I entered/registered on August 8th, but was not listed as of yesterday. I understand that the on line system they use takes a while to update because they are making changes to their software. But I plan to be there. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 14:19:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17FB140431 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:19:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB83E403F2 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:19:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.195]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 54ABF700C9B8A; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:19:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 59E12E0000C6; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:19:19 -0400 (EDT) References: <6a12e.2235169c.3f4523b8@aol.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:19:16 -0500 To: "BillDentin@aol.com" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377029959; bh=7sVKdeI8TmGr7JEgc++eND8TTHcYi7/VRfzZ87wWiaQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=wJ2yVw/VRhfFMmM8/olOHHW1NzrOmuNIf9bNQ2mb71waTQQCDLpDZmLpH/Crteqi6 YJfvMQcE9mZ9hFDhRSATLFmU5E5ofFERXiK9w7WWNloM465FSgZ8LusehGDuokpM19 oiZYubkEjjxDSLOZDxLREbKmL9ZQToCcyrxiXdr0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c35213cf47432f Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries & Test & Overcrew Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, there is a serious lag in updating, but also a lot of procrastinating. We still have two dismantled cars.....back to work. It will all work out in the end. Joe A Sent from my iPad On Aug 20, 2013, at 2:55 PM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 08/20/2013 1:01:22 PM Central Daylight Time, n197tr4@cs.com writes: > > >> Scott, et.al. >> >> There are 29 cars shown at the moment on the website........ >> >> Go into VSCDA website >> Go to event ELVF >> Click on e-registration >> Click on "entries" at the menu at the top. >> >> Entries are shown in alphabetic order so far. >> >> Back to work....we are behind the power curve on two cars, but hopeful. > > > Joe... > > I entered/registered on August 8th, but was not listed as of yesterday. I understand that the on line system they use takes a while to update because they are making changes to their software. > > But I plan to be there. > > Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 14:25:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13EC240448 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:25:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d01.mx.aol.com (omr-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.252.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA4A400A4 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:25:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.198]) by omr-d01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 0F82B70057AB2 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:25:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id B2F19E00013C for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:25:13 -0400 (EDT) References: <53b211a2.ad4547.1409d555e8c.Webtop.47@charter.net> From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:25:13 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377030316; bh=Nrsq3z00zjjNMM37xQaYbr4w5NKcfSZxWvt7MN1utqk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=rQVqo+gtAhsHVaicCmbv1GXMhDQ1IolOFdTfBaJd2/5VvHD7Zeo2oXs6/1wLkieYT 4lnVhm2kXUmN9687eGG+C2MXpn6KzFZw2Qqv9YTOMWn+BLz3wAP/JFUNi7UrI0ZyjC fzL841irQ0w/gOyAqUWX4WDRUfOP2LATqC3+hLLU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c65213d0a96a01 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Triumph Royalty at the KCup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Well, we have confirmation from FOT Jeff Kelly through Bob Johns. Please seek out Dan and Jay and welcome them. Jeff is also displaying his award winning TR2. Jeff is one of our many Triumph Gurus, to be treasured. Joe A Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Jeff Kelley > Date: August 20, 2013, 3:05:52 PM CDT > To: Joe Alexander > Subject: RE: [Fot] Triumph Royalty at the KCup > > Joe, > > Bob forwarded me an email from Dan's son. Both Dan and his son Jay will be attending. He also said that his father was very excited about the event. At the time of the Nurburgring win Dan was featured in the Standard Triumph Review Magazine. I have also heard that posters of his win were used in the UK Dealerships to help promote sales of the TR2. > > Jeff > > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > >> FOT: >> >> I got a call from ex-factory Triumph Driver, Bob Johns, a couple of weeks ago. >> He has been in contact with Dan Fowler, the first American Winner at the >> Nurburgring in the new TR2. >> >> As far as I know, Dan Fowler, will be joining us in the Triumph Garages. >> >> Of course, Bob drove at Nurburgring and again at Sebring, co driving with Mike >> Rothschild, Mordy Dunst's father-in-law. >> >> Be sure to pay attention to Marty Sukey's custom name tags the first couple >> days. You may be standing next to Triumph Royalty, with great personal >> history. >> >> Getting names on the event poster is one of our features. This year they may >> go on the back of the poster as we will likely run out of room. >> >> Joe A >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffreykelley@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 14:35:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA1DA40433 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:35:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m09.mx.aol.com (omr-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E09403F5 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:32:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.204]) by omr-m09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7AABB70000084; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:32:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtd003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtd003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.201]) by mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 54456E000087; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:32:16 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:32:16 -0400 (EDT) To: n197tr4@cs.com, gasket.works@gte.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377030736; bh=4LVhABa3vyDtGeKLjs6jDEbEomm1xyHpca+LCjXa+iA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Q5bT9IARV4blFsmDVvm9zHym81/uKntABDJrWhliE7vFmBFx6FWO0dL6xKv63ILJg UaE4lbZpCKfJkQtxQtwBOOn+FKo8enTlLJixnwognQbPOr9mzDVgb192JYi1J7wISr wLzg7a23d7J+ubAX2XfuIZSIT3dEhjOnBz3XPwH4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cc5213d2504b48 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Wine Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 08/20/2013 3:14:09 PM Central Daylight Time, n197tr4@cs.com writes: > Bill Dentinger and Bob Wismer also consistently dispense wine when the > track goes cold. > We plan to paddock in our 'grandfathered' Beady Eye VINTAGE TRIUMPH Rest Area spot, directly across from the entrance to the False Grid. Many years ago there was a classic Road America Out House facility adjacent to this choice real estate and no one wanted to paddock there because of its caustic smells. We, lowly Triumph racers...put up with it, and Road America put up with us. Until quite recently their official printed Paddock Maps actually listed the spot as the Beady Eye VINTAGE TRIUMPH Rest Area. It still smells there late in the day, but that's adrenaline. Bob Wismer's really competitive. He even has his own Championship Monument at Road America. Ken Suhre, usually in his yellow MINI, is going to join us for this event, and will be bringing his ex-Don Brick TR4. So at least 'car wise' all of the original Beady Eye TRIUMPHs will be together again in the same tent. And we'll all be there...right at the top of the hill. I think you can see it from the TRIUMPH ROW garages. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 14:43:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109BA40433 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:43:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f49.google.com (mail-bk0-f49.google.com [209.85.214.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A00403EE for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:43:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-bk0-f49.google.com with SMTP id r7so337701bkg.36 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:43:29 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=ZLj9wLMjsoE0qv4Zg3jhC/3c7SQjAiEwX+rErdb1o9s=; b=TLh81dX8YpYddXCyW0pFGBBJgLBbUs/rtVugu/T6BH1J6GMnmlYKS8/5i5DC9RTMjl bzqYVT15rX+anefpmJPld1+tc6IaqfRKTErsxPHC5fLNiy3O9SG1+e4X55LBjpzmc8JI Jk8pSEo4q3FUEXLrJIRYQGiBHQPvQR8gQt2AJ80IVOPZA9FCB5qLv9szj3aEHNKNNH33 RLuyDH1ZGYLpogWLqqpnTiAQMggOIHfOt3zZgc1mn+hh1RjHFtmQ9gMfwvY9iMaV5zX3 fPoJwb2KxLzZuTelMoOwV7bgGQeJPU8ebYyeow/RsuO0AJIcvNYrtZhgrg/GSQ4RXejb OYzg== dc4mr2427541bkb.2.1377031409264; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home (ip-109-46-9-144.web.vodafone.de. [109.46.9.144]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d8sm1086516bkj.6.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:43:27 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <53b211a2.ad4547.1409d555e8c.Webtop.47@charter.net> <54A3BEAD-DA27-45EA-AE20-1909D01D0E47@cs.com> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 22:43:26 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6d424PuezTc2wuSy2XCGoAmJEYtAAAm+Rw Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Triumph Royalty at the KCup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm getting more and more exited. -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Joe Alexander Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. August 2013 22:25 An: fot@autox.team.net Betreff: [Fot] Fwd: Triumph Royalty at the KCup Well, we have confirmation from FOT Jeff Kelly through Bob Johns. Please seek out Dan and Jay and welcome them. Jeff is also displaying his award winning TR2. Jeff is one of our many Triumph Gurus, to be treasured. Joe A Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Jeff Kelley > Date: August 20, 2013, 3:05:52 PM CDT > To: Joe Alexander > Subject: RE: [Fot] Triumph Royalty at the KCup > > Joe, > > Bob forwarded me an email from Dan's son. Both Dan and his son Jay > will be attending. He also said that his father was very excited about the event. At the time of the Nurburgring win Dan was featured in the Standard Triumph Review Magazine. I have also heard that posters of his win were used in the UK Dealerships to help promote sales of the TR2. > > Jeff > > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > >> FOT: >> >> I got a call from ex-factory Triumph Driver, Bob Johns, a couple of >> weeks ago. >> He has been in contact with Dan Fowler, the first American Winner at >> the Nurburgring in the new TR2. >> >> As far as I know, Dan Fowler, will be joining us in the Triumph Garages. >> >> Of course, Bob drove at Nurburgring and again at Sebring, co driving >> with Mike >> Rothschild, Mordy Dunst's father-in-law. >> >> Be sure to pay attention to Marty Sukey's custom name tags the first couple >> days. You may be standing next to Triumph Royalty, with great >> personal history. >> >> Getting names on the event poster is one of our features. This year >> they may >> go on the back of the poster as we will likely run out of room. >> >> Joe A >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffreykelley@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 16:14:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F2B4040B for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:14:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (unknown [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D2A403D7 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:21:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.36]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id F6Yo1m0010mlR8UA29KxBz; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:19:57 +0000 Received: from [10.218.208.58] ([166.147.82.157]) by omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id F9KJ1m0033PfcHi8X9KQqg; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:19:52 +0000 References: <20130820193638.7BB1340410@autox.team.net> From: Jim Gray Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:19:16 -0600 To: "jason@multivintage.com" s=q20121106; t=1377033597; bh=DBGLh7IZr8t7MOgUleuBw8UbbUGaQ2y+LuIg+cDap4o=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=UKFPt2npUTpPNqel/sife/KOOtaqLcpFjisNp6Ke6Xwhyn8khulSCyjOig0Kqym9p TR0TwuR/G4FdeAWWfeAKjblMXWTL8JNq4D/04qFxo1BPk/wpHNV8CC9giE8nGXHkU1 0ebBqheolSSc2T2tz+4CFUckY9bYDPOoTRCSEy13hEgIndNFMVRROJ4MPiIZeJfSqM whZFhaSZKpO+tWjCPFCxvpHUGS3br279lCNP7VdCssUsuT0o2MXwANPM1pdKP5eztJ Kqhm3D/Dj+sjihxouePfzLCkl+GCrVJZWsWKL0WHnoP5OBhKdQLUF3GMnxTbUb2MaU WGfVIM8F4rH+Q== Cc: "fot-bounces@autox.team.net" , 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are the GT6s? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I registered last week and waiting for Confirmation Jim g Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2013, at 1:36 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > I registered a few days ago. But note guys, GT6's are in group 8B2 not group two. Chuck registered for group 2 and that is for older TR's. We will all obviously run together in the cup. And in some of the other mixed class races. > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > I will be racing the BRG#69 Zippy car and bringing along the Yellow #27 as well as my Dads original race car (freshly restored). > Yep, it'll be a 3 car historical tribute to GT6 under the FGR tent. > ------Original Message------ > From: Scott Janzen > Sender: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph > Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are the GT6s? > Sent: Aug 20, 2013 1:29 PM > > what happened to the GT6 racers? I see Chuck on the list but no one else. > One of the reasons for me to make a 14 hour tow is to be on the track with > some other GT6s (he says, whining). > > Are you guys just procrastinating like I am? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com > > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 16:33:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8F04044D for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:33:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f45.google.com (mail-bk0-f45.google.com [209.85.214.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E563403FA for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:17:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-bk0-f45.google.com with SMTP id mx11so369711bkb.4 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:17:40 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=4EA5TKjJjNYys/mnFEi+ksBzVKXlk4yyrot/Tc8kB2g=; b=E++wxmYbCreqRJ4lYIPGFmN1xfjM8317tDRtl0NwNclUcnnmjk2h3RqsmjFiDJGPiU 5HuOQUKtqQhEt1X5uGTYCLUsxlIUNqV4U2UmOMLtohcFgaqu+5HjNjxiOr4yP21TovuR AfVo5UuwDQwnmsrYInBeogfjybViN3DpZqeLrPk3U841AEy9/a7BnukJWRp8759L4nEX +LzvJOLFeZXwYKB5JZsG4ioSxHXJ2Kw/WZwII9mWcYkeJbnbS0WzDWRLvyRh/U1tYdYt 2pz+x1OvEYdh46sDCbmu4w32jTqoWKvGNOhpMoz/EuwiQbbYAZDu6tdGHKBZqlOxD+F+ roXA== q4mr2758536bkz.9.1377037060623; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:17:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home (ip-109-46-9-144.web.vodafone.de. [109.46.9.144]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id kk2sm1141286bkb.10.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:17:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <53b211a2.ad4547.1409d555e8c.Webtop.47@charter.net> <54A3BEAD-DA27-45EA-AE20-1909D01D0E47@cs.com> <001f01ce9de5$edccd9e0$c9668da0$@com> <66716F58-B9CA-4FB7-9C72-14575FBEFA52@gdhs.com> Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 00:17:39 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6d7Qb36D7qStTBSIOhVm1asLONLwABfXDQ Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Triumph Royalty at the KCup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Does anybody know in which hotel I am? I lost the name. Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 17:25:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9364040D for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 17:25:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1C7403F9 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 17:19:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id ro12so981617pbb.13 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:19:56 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=YbrcsdHhLkaNqBSu0tgXhyjU8uwJn5tk6isvTDbznN0=; b=Hjos7sK64jl5ySls4qrImaQ3wJ+SQNogwnTABBwMS901cx85zwCpNlaZGJS7ctOnxr /PtGn/pr9vE7MvFVW2Iqcf6mNQcLxpl6J1h2sJRIBtzyvLdiWbeFv/Azgj5TCcS6Wfq9 zfaAZhEnWY+syShEsn5EYC++OsYnBf3tuDlhbY0f7W1s/O+0HBsdAIU45OK1xCsdIEX1 1HbATAmnoNggOkXqqzYVkZdmXz29h8Qk0dpP1EfQGBEvwQeGmyuOA2a89sA5sjErnNEu Idgh7uLIA0ifFtoYf45eVslEBgy7m3tmKSNaY3Tkzt48kZmyT32vrly0ggZ9ugNo6uGm 8QEg== wf2mr6280076pac.111.1377040796425; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:19:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.248.39 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:19:36 -0700 (PDT) References: <6a12e.2235169c.3f4523b8@aol.com> <78C8BF37-F2AF-42ED-8D88-E25913F7805C@cs.com> From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:19:36 -0700 To: Joe Alexander , Friends Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries & Test & Overcrew Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Timed the cam on my new block yesterday. Back to work now [thought I had retired but you know, these cars and racing are damn expensive],so not till Friday will I get to the rest of it. Expect to have a running car with new engine and head by Sunday. Will do a test day at Pacific Raceways Thursday the 29th, then Saturday it is off to the big event. Am doing test and tune at Ra on the 6th, and expect to be at the track just slightly before 5 on Wednesday. I have garage space. Had to rebuild the spare engine as the "good one" I have run for a year and a half decided to spin a rod bearing -- on the outside. Little damage, but lots of oil heat. The new head is only because I will run 13:1 compression. The head I have been using is great also -- it was done by Richard Junkermeier [of whom I have heard nothing for the last couple of years]. Also, do you know if Keith Files or any other Brits are coming? Chuck _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 17:39:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9771140441 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 17:39:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m09.mx.aol.com (omr-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34DC3403E9 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 17:34:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.66]) by omr-m09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8C01A70000096; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:34:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 38BA5E0000A3; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:34:41 -0400 (EDT) References: <6a12e.2235169c.3f4523b8@aol.com> <78C8BF37-F2AF-42ED-8D88-E25913F7805C@cs.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:34:42 -0500 To: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377041681; bh=LuUCnwIsJX2bINC5alP+e4qsbNnlecoCgCoD3s5of98=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=nWBMeDVAsQMIWPGp6//l+f6ZEOkFWKwFzWPkudRl7qJsflWoOyMspDBaJPohZKe9k Usion44mouNfyjJZBIo7/b6Wo8RpMORgOix03wVG3uBDaO4wgLI/NqeLIDS+DyuHCj 0HlDpvRpDcEkZfEiqx2OH4rYLB8Y9cVbbVbrp4Ho= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29425213fd1148e4 Cc: Friends Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries & Test & Overcrew Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Keith and Denise are coming, along with Simon Watson. Not sure if John Clancy is coming yet. Of course, Chris Marx is coming. We had a couple cars from OZ coming for awhile, but business is holding them home. A lot of folks have put out an enormous amount of effort to be at this one. We will have three old time TR drivers that flogged their Side Curtain TRs around Europe in the 50s. And raced them, too. And on and on......what a deal. Sent from my iPad On Aug 20, 2013, at 6:19 PM, "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" wrote: > Timed the cam on my new block yesterday. Back to work now [thought I had retired but you know, these cars and racing are damn expensive],so not till Friday will I get to the rest of it. Expect to have a running car with new engine and head by Sunday. Will do a test day at Pacific Raceways Thursday the 29th, then Saturday it is off to the big event. Am doing test and tune at Ra on the 6th, and expect to be at the track just slightly before 5 on Wednesday. I have garage space. > > Had to rebuild the spare engine as the "good one" I have run for a year and a half decided to spin a rod bearing -- on the outside. Little damage, but lots of oil heat. The new head is only because I will run 13:1 compression. The head I have been using is great also -- it was done by Richard Junkermeier [of whom I have heard nothing for the last couple of years]. > > Also, do you know if Keith Files or any other Brits are coming? > > Chuck _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 18:00:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32AF940513 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:00:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC83403FB for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:00:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.196]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 3871170109CF0; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:00:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.212] (189-38-239-49.static-corp.ajato.com.br [189.38.239.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id BF02AE0000D0; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:00:27 -0400 (EDT) References: <20130820193714.4C96740417@autox.team.net> From: Chuck Gee Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:00:26 -0300 To: "jason@multivintage.com" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377043228; bh=ktXnavPrQqrL6wTsVoseSH1brozEyZ+eZgGWdPPHtXQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=uEnpMXQIn/vQhl4m2SvklAlSduUqyO2o7PSax8lerDDERSN0SUyQzmHZqIdQWXVtW 8WLvRQS6CxNWDBaVpMFF5KYrYt2niOQVoDNgP5CrBS/CRQdYMuNFH68ETwXl9VGBwX EwHO5ErpOUp+y23W6usPGPeuLJyQz2NF2OMzNSYI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c45214031b7697 Cc: "fot-bounces@autox.team.net" , 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are the GT6s? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Actually, I registered for group 8 and they moved me to group 2. Chuck On Aug 20, 2013, at 4:36 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > I registered a few days ago. But note guys, GT6's are in group 8B2 not group two. Chuck registered for group 2 and that is for older TR's. We will all obviously run together in the cup. And in some of the other mixed class races. > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > I will be racing the BRG#69 Zippy car and bringing along the Yellow #27 as well as my Dads original race car (freshly restored). > Yep, it'll be a 3 car historical tribute to GT6 under the FGR tent. > ------Original Message------ > From: Scott Janzen > Sender: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph > Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are the GT6s? > Sent: Aug 20, 2013 1:29 PM > > what happened to the GT6 racers? I see Chuck on the list but no one else. > One of the reasons for me to make a 14 hour tow is to be on the track with > some other GT6s (he says, whining). > > Are you guys just procrastinating like I am? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com > > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 18:01:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF5F42749 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:01:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm5-vm6.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm5-vm6.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856D040434 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:00:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.165] by nm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2013 00:00:42 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.133] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2013 00:00:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1009.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2013 00:00:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 37580 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Aug 2013 00:00:42 -0000 s=s1024; t=1377043242; bh=egWfFcspHg0qTdshOSrM9VeQy43U+pkRIuKMO+pItFI=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lpPtOrVb8c6P9nmGPjOj88gBqATYjr0CYCbvmaYQbako8Xoey6ZWemA7uPVxjiUYH3bwzsdDDrycBUJeVZYDE61NuYlu+NvUuKW9zyKX4DZqTzdopQjeRdQpAsJyllbKfPf2EJ0c0mp4U5WvMbksBtom1vC0086W4Q4iqkTwv+c= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jo5wGAd450lJQxaTqwK7lHxt6mNoe1LzN49LBOur49ADmYgRDHqdYpPU0tXGag5OIs81VD+4obe1++08E5645ul41PaTkR5d7jmVURwhUwcxm3RYmZRsaZ+qAR33hWEqcqEimi9p+sFV2YpOHdlsQvdNYachMnza6vZ/Bxq50bI=; Tpigl.lGVF8gzVm1JBWT0U2qYxtFPtFYIWTr6n6hMr5qWDPFn6vY_kpeH5e3 WwOYNfyDyziGO5ivZ7PaXOTWCju27hcUwisImLQmozg0GvbQKUfkQiTzAWVL gfrtzpFz.EiBm6B8eoG7xWRo1uzlfVuppMdXEPfNNzbWbdXKdbCZVcXsyEN7 JbbuxZY59xCVK0WTywgb0uw4IkW0TyzHZhr4TadwncHAmWE65DfLNiE_XvUT khbKfnaKL7o8VJmuhMQt2g8hU2g_1wgmEdMrpjzqRDxm2kY34QAuZsLJV.NX J7WPWzYmDZQG9V9DnLXJgQyo8qouqKXZpLEfcPKUF7rada0Ejkky9aN2hkeT wna_2j2jc57GqRI8IB6XDBsr2MNPVaVtSC909FhNBCk9skSbibXObOehDRwW 94gcJAft5XgQ_ZVeIA8oZgidEgEX6odevVCRJwFJ6mCKtB_QFrTZ9K91KeRr WS1wC9DKmH8EZljCZGj.y6Aeu_uh9qp_5CG_QmUsNPXQtDJJuSEBq_EiVPZe kA.16LVmMZNna.rXukK4MZJqPU4_zDhRYxrxTW.fQBIxnrZcPAxwUkmnAbHh xpUYwDw54RJbw5Z3.X3afo3.pqdhyjw-- Received: from [162.198.152.23] by web182206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 17:00:42 PDT U2NvdHQuLiBhcG9sb2dpZXMgdG8geW91IGFuZCB0aGUgbGlzdC4gSSBjYW5ub3QgY29tZSBlaXRoZXIuIE15IGNhciBpcyBub3QgcXVpdGUgcmVhZHkgYnV0IGNsb3NlLiBCcmFuZCBuZXcgZW5naW5lIHRoYXQncyBuZXZlciBmaXJlZCBwbHVzIEknbSByZWdpc3RlcmVkIGZvciBDT1RBIGluIE9jdG9iZXIuIE1vbmV5IGlzIHdoYXQgaXQgaXMsIHBsdXMgdGhlIDIwMDAgbWlsZSB0dWcuIEkgY2FuJ3QgdGVzdCBhbmQgdHVuZSBhdCBSQS4uwqAgSSBqdXN0IGNhbnQgZG8gaXQgZm9yIHNldmVyYWwgcmVhc29ucy4BMAEBAQE- References: <7E2F8B91-3A79-4F28-BDFB-D9A4E4C848DA@cs.com> <3040A6CD-51E2-4B73-96DC-1088B36B29AF@cs.com> <5F781A5A-CFE9-4CBE-9741-4D9CA12AE942@me.com> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 17:00:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Bobby Whitehead To: Scott Janzen , FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are the GT6s? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Scott.. apologies to you and the list. I cannot come either. My car is not quite ready but close. Brand new engine that's never fired plus I'm registered for COTA in October. Money is what it is, plus the 2000 mile tug. I can't test and tune at RA.. I just cant do it for several reasons. It's been emotional and economical choices. I promise to make it up to the list at 2014 K Kup.... Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: Scott Janzen To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are the GT6s? what happened to the GT6 racers? I see Chuck on the list but no one else. One of the reasons for me to make a 14 hour tow is to be on the track with some other GT6s (he says, whining). Are you guys just procrastinating like I am? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 18:13:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF8B40513 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:13:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm3-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm3-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BAD0403FA for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:11:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.52] by nm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2013 00:10:58 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.172] by tm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2013 00:10:58 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1083.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2013 00:10:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 6096 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Aug 2013 00:10:58 -0000 s=s1024; t=1377043858; bh=U4kUo0W40KIw8PnBGncPRMkAf04V3pVPSgm/2BgqVMY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AoXbsti+TrnPs3BRRVWyN30400fWjhrdr9nElHeFKr4Chx6RM/n7U2ixEB8DoajK2baCyE1TetYyXtJ2+3gm5cdjCOjqqyWZRLkb7z1ErLw6bV+IxPDC1oIBSYbzEuLCnxfdPJhZlFlqwYCE/23uwALeLkiYt4gVsRuiCzaBfPQ= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zvork87Y6UeWMS5HZiDWNw4CFQnfUkPDVE7MWl0yH8OX6RDIeflUD3/c9VmEXGzqUq//thjRJ9y42aPg25monOTupLMUq3OLVxPPrtIEgtWa01F89tzzeXjbilsONGSv/bqvqdfFc65iGDJEEZxkbToq+4TxkrqExGMfp6zt+O0=; TRJcS611oHRspVxq.JO28OlQlFuThKR3sqLENrPGjfrlaTqW_BRrUY_k1tgU qKviUnS1aIRrm52AoQ8IFnapLHI2K_Fe05h53z220bG3SA9s3SowgqqBOaiu _7IGRNYBC86oP1JOAbploT3Umdhgnwodi1xCqRlMX5MYoyDy2DHTu5FkkWyD UCMnK392e5hto7HAPklA4nrA4ueVRRr315R3GXe.8WFw49VpudalhFeNBWfZ FAmHDackH6nWa0nk9n6NkE2nuU8TOqN__rZ0ZQdomNwPsY9swfn0ufPzlrXV gUycDjPxT3_xrS_XqDgnVQVk3A.6nsvUZPwWMUNwPFsjfprrQ.se6aJ7KIAr yg3PEiyyfDZ.RHIIZFS_PWn0_pYti78mkG3HNPmDHNSnEefTbWewLUafkev8 dThWTSkAODdDxRj06DwHgUa_PSl0WARvJwzCbEtoEdol0aIen.OvVqKsHdM. 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TR 4 #79. Being a farm boy from Illinois, I do not know where OZ is located? Could you please enlighten me? Ken ________________________________ From: Joe Alexander To: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley Cc: Friends Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries & Test & Overcrew Keith and Denise are coming, along with Simon Watson. Not sure if John Clancy is coming yet. Of course, Chris Marx is coming. We had a couple cars from OZ coming for awhile, but business is holding them home. A lot of folks have put out an enormous amount of effort to be at this one. We will have three old time TR drivers that flogged their Side Curtain TRs around Europe in the 50s. And raced them, too. And on and on......what a deal. Sent from my iPad On Aug 20, 2013, at 6:19 PM, "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" wrote: > Timed the cam on my new block yesterday. Back to work now [thought I had retired but you know, these cars and racing are damn expensive],so not till Friday will I get to the rest of it. Expect to have a running car with new engine and head by Sunday. Will do a test day at Pacific Raceways Thursday the 29th, then Saturday it is off to the big event. Am doing test and tune at Ra on the 6th, and expect to be at the track just slightly before 5 on Wednesday. I have garage space. > > Had to rebuild the spare engine as the "good one" I have run for a year and a half decided to spin a rod bearing -- on the outside. Little damage, but lots of oil heat. The new head is only because I will run 13:1 compression. The head I have been using is great also -- it was done by Richard Junkermeier [of whom I have heard nothing for the last couple of years]. > > Also, do you know if Keith Files or any other Brits are coming? > > Chuck _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kenandtweety@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 18:17:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E2C4275F for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:17:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78DDC40430 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:15:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B56A0E6F for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:15:00 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:15:00 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/22.0 SeaMonkey/2.19 To: Friends References: <6a12e.2235169c.3f4523b8@aol.com> <78C8BF37-F2AF-42ED-8D88-E25913F7805C@cs.com> <400B1954-6F8F-47EB-8D75-6820B4D85DAD@cs.com> <1377043857.5842.YahooMailNeo@web126105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries & Test & Overcrew Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ken Suhre wrote: > Joe, > I received my entry confirmation today. TR 4 #79. > Being a farm boy > from Illinois, I do not know where OZ is located? Could you please enlighten > me? > Just follow the yellow brick road. I hear it starts in Kansas. Oz = Australia. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 18:41:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FAD40449 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:41:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com (omr-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F388A403FA for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:39:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.129]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A9EB67000009E; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:39:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 40861E000127; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:39:05 -0400 (EDT) References: <6a12e.2235169c.3f4523b8@aol.com> <78C8BF37-F2AF-42ED-8D88-E25913F7805C@cs.com> <400B1954-6F8F-47EB-8D75-6820B4D85DAD@cs.com> <1377043857.5842.YahooMailNeo@web126105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:39:06 -0500 To: Ken Suhre x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377045545; bh=Y8pJcivoZm2EXw4hZzMhDGXYbwhO/sjnlxZ1Bg8bnpk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=jg/Qc1Ipj2lCkDCeJntK/LbojxmMA0zwx8G9ffWNpCBHb611rP+QPse6DJPBV/UkW BrKLKpqbq1/7hREnuV9aJpcfSB3Pkc0rH/h/O9nP4oNKCSDRq8eRl/l955BYsVWUZv dVPbNdIqX9b3N81rNk08201kRD0cwFx7Qs4hQT+Q= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338152140c294ef5 Cc: Friends Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries & Test & Overcrew Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ken, I am not sure your saying that with a straight face..... Iowa Boy Sent from my iPad On Aug 20, 2013, at 7:10 PM, Ken Suhre wrote: > Joe, > I received my entry confirmation today. TR 4 #79. > Being a farm boy from Illinois, I do not know where OZ is located? Could you please enlighten me? > Ken > > From: Joe Alexander > To: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley > Cc: Friends > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 6:34 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries & Test & Overcrew > > Keith and Denise are coming, along with Simon Watson. > > Not sure if John Clancy is coming yet. > > Of course, Chris Marx is coming. > > We had a couple cars from OZ coming for awhile, but business is holding them > home. > > A lot of folks have put out an enormous amount of effort to be at this one. > > We will have three old time TR drivers that flogged their Side Curtain TRs > around Europe in the 50s. And raced them, too. > > And on and on......what a deal. > > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 20, 2013, at 6:19 PM, "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" > wrote: > > > Timed the cam on my new block yesterday. Back to work now [thought I had > retired but you know, these cars and racing are damn expensive],so not till > Friday will I get to the rest of it. Expect to have a running car with new > engine and head by Sunday. Will do a test day at Pacific Raceways Thursday > the 29th, then Saturday it is off to the big event. Am doing test and tune at > Ra on the 6th, and expect to be at the track just slightly before 5 on > Wednesday. I have garage space. > > > > Had to rebuild the spare engine as the "good one" I have run for a year and > a half decided to spin a rod bearing -- on the outside. Little damage, but > lots of oil heat. The new head is only because I will run 13:1 compression. > The head I have been using is great also -- it was done by Richard Junkermeier > [of whom I have heard nothing for the last couple of years]. > > > > Also, do you know if Keith Files or any other Brits are coming? > > > > Chuck > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kenandtweety@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 18:43:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61EE742709 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:43:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f181.google.com (mail-ob0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25ED3403FB for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:39:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f181.google.com with SMTP id dn14so1973805obc.12 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 17:39:46 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :references:in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:cc:from :date:content-type:mime-version; bh=NOiiGyHc9pQccjn33b9imesJR9xazHZS0ed31exgs2o=; b=SQPbz9t6dHiMnd32k1aja8XSE4tyr6x+Evrp1NEw6V7fPKWB6w45/yW+Tx90fF5jIk hPOwwKcbeGjU1PdRoTdZDpO0EG1RYN/eP6b9Ayg+TkfHvZvw1sMJAoFM87F9nsz0jJTK Ayb2M6nlmi/m2xx83+svAAxe+TjX2M1XDb5/EEhqXsJJYNIh78wHEdweD43nTQwk1bBS 61DnVXRz3JlO11lkRNvZB/cbbW5WhWSuhPfv9v47FnuUlR71zSZXTuyJzuFX283ruzxo j2ibDIwGHMLX1budeCcPuxUV/WHvsBmmcfSxK6XFO21NDOKcanJpHVyaXhpKTaAQKtJI y2Lg== Tue, 20 Aug 2013 17:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.187 (bda-74-82-80-176.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id tz10sm5987899obc.10.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 20 Aug 2013 17:39:45 -0700 (PDT) References: <20130820193714.4C96740417@autox.team.net> <53293D7C-3B45-44D5-97B9-A9564F8AFD59@aol.com> Sensitivity: Normal To: "Chuck Gee" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 00:39:40 +0000 Cc: "fot-bounces@autox.team.net" , 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are the GT6s? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The plot thickens. Interesting. Perhaps we will all get put in one group. VSCDA has been known to put all the featured marque cars in one group. That would be to my liking. Can't wait. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Gee Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:00:26 To: jason@multivintage.com Cc: Scott Janzen; fot-bounces@autox.team.net; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are the GT6s? Actually, I registered for group 8 and they moved me to group 2. Chuck On Aug 20, 2013, at 4:36 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > I registered a few days ago. But note guys, GT6's are in group 8B2 not group two. Chuck registered for group 2 and that is for older TR's. We will all obviously run together in the cup. And in some of the other mixed class races. > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > I will be racing the BRG#69 Zippy car and bringing along the Yellow #27 as well as my Dads original race car (freshly restored). > Yep, it'll be a 3 car historical tribute to GT6 under the FGR tent. > ------Original Message------ > From: Scott Janzen > Sender: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph > Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are the GT6s? > Sent: Aug 20, 2013 1:29 PM > > what happened to the GT6 racers? I see Chuck on the list but no one else. > One of the reasons for me to make a 14 hour tow is to be on the track with > some other GT6s (he says, whining). > > Are you guys just procrastinating like I am? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com > > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 19:46:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7BD4051D for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:46:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail201c2.megamailservers.com (mail201c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F858403E9 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:40:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.246.21.127] (7.sub-174-237-32.myvzw.com [174.237.32.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail201c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r7L1e8Jo022738 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:40:11 -0400 References: <6a12e.2235169c.3f4523b8@aol.com> <78C8BF37-F2AF-42ED-8D88-E25913F7805C@cs.com> From: John Hasty Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:40:07 -0400 To: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley a=68BiYx-KLwEA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=pHIi8O/tc8dzgdqt9o72ow==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=1XWaLZrsAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=fn1uw-OL6ct6Dr4shkQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=pHIi8O/tc8dzgdqt9o72ow==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: Friends Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries & Test & Overcrew Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Gee whiz my engine has not been touched ( very much) since last cup @ rd Atl all these new things really worry me Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2013, at 7:19 PM, "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" wrote: > Timed the cam on my new block yesterday. Back to work now [thought I had > retired but you know, these cars and racing are damn expensive],so not till > Friday will I get to the rest of it. Expect to have a running car with new > engine and head by Sunday. Will do a test day at Pacific Raceways Thursday > the 29th, then Saturday it is off to the big event. Am doing test and tune > at Ra on the 6th, and expect to be at the track just slightly before 5 on > Wednesday. I have garage space. > > Had to rebuild the spare engine as the "good one" I have run for a year and > a half decided to spin a rod bearing -- on the outside. Little damage, but > lots of oil heat. The new head is only because I will run 13:1 > compression. The head I have been using is great also -- it was done by > Richard Junkermeier [of whom I have heard nothing for the last couple of > years]. > > Also, do you know if Keith Files or any other Brits are coming? > > > Chuck > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 19:47:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2FA42734 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:47:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail176c2.megamailservers.com (mail176c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96686403E9 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:42:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.246.21.127] (7.sub-174-237-32.myvzw.com [174.237.32.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail176c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r7L1ft6A027979 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:41:57 -0400 References: <6a12e.2235169c.3f4523b8@aol.com> <78C8BF37-F2AF-42ED-8D88-E25913F7805C@cs.com> <400B1954-6F8F-47EB-8D75-6820B4D85DAD@cs.com> <1377043857.5842.YahooMailNeo@web126105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <52140684.50805@bradakis.com> From: John Hasty Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:41:53 -0400 To: Mark J Bradakis a=68BiYx-KLwEA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=pHIi8O/tc8dzgdqt9o72ow==:17 a=k9IzgLeNAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=TcPE7qo-CxUIjH-lunwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=T1jTriLPLxoA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=pHIi8O/tc8dzgdqt9o72ow==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: Friends Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries & Test & Overcrew Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Way to go Mark!!!!!! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2013, at 8:15 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > Ken Suhre wrote: >> Joe, >> I received my entry confirmation today. TR 4 #79. >> Being a farm boy >> from Illinois, I do not know where OZ is located? Could you please enlighten >> me? >> > > Just follow the yellow brick road. I hear it starts in Kansas. > > Oz = Australia. > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 19:48:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9461442764 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:48:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f169.google.com (mail-pd0-f169.google.com [209.85.192.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FBE403E9 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:43:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f169.google.com with SMTP id r10so1174758pdi.0 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:43:45 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=94iN98Rhrfbeoqu+SdOSvSFE+M0G/zJs+C+iEhtxass=; b=ZdKdf725YHvaMlKhGWTA+HiZ/skzZOaEW2Y/07wsO7ASIsU9mAJ1/M0O+EEa5OSX1S BK9FjGq44PIH2+gy3QD2ZTzZWNBE/ZYO8E3iSFONR/y/WqgHC5iKgPmyAHTda/oqqb4O zI9jRcnF6ci3SdaF1WG8x8N4xiyuYLLsZIHgccPknzoBOseBFRwBV64bLqEftL5gjoSi nTppKI3gqk8BZFOBqfsYpj2CYtom9nZJ+9949fHLGpBxtV6a3kg3SeWY/lHO+TxCbnNA /vPGJUhYNzlp+Eg2ZACqBlJAyP6vRUa9K1LPHjtBkRF1vBcREBvt6K39IGqjk2j0TqvB 7xPw== rs5mr6879277pab.168.1377049424899; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:43:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.248.39 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:43:24 -0700 (PDT) References: <6a12e.2235169c.3f4523b8@aol.com> <78C8BF37-F2AF-42ED-8D88-E25913F7805C@cs.com> <400B1954-6F8F-47EB-8D75-6820B4D85DAD@cs.com> <1377043857.5842.YahooMailNeo@web126105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:43:24 -0700 To: Ken Suhre Cc: Friends Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries & Test & Overcrew Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Oh come on Ken, everybody knows it is east of Eden! I worked for Oracle, it was east of Oz! On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Ken Suhre wrote: > Joe, > I received my entry confirmation today. TR 4 #79. > Being a farm boy > from Illinois, I do not know where OZ is located? Could you please > enlighten > me? > Ken > > > ________________________________ > From: Joe Alexander > > To: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley > Cc: Friends > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 6:34 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries & Test & Overcrew > > > Keith and Denise are coming, > along with Simon Watson. > > Not sure if John Clancy is coming yet. > > Of course, > Chris Marx is coming. > > We had a couple cars from OZ coming for awhile, but > business is holding them > home. > > A lot of folks have put out an enormous amount > of effort to be at this one. > > We will have three old time TR drivers that > flogged their Side Curtain TRs > around Europe in the 50s. And raced them, > too. > > And on and on......what a deal. > > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 20, 2013, > at 6:19 PM, "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" > wrote: > > Timed the cam on my new block yesterday. Back to work now [thought I had > retired but you know, these cars and racing are damn expensive],so not till > Friday will I get to the rest of it. Expect to have a running car with new > engine and head by Sunday. Will do a test day at Pacific Raceways Thursday > the 29th, then Saturday it is off to the big event. Am doing test and tune > at > Ra on the 6th, and expect to be at the track just slightly before 5 on > Wednesday. I have garage space. > > > > Had to rebuild the spare engine as the > "good one" I have run for a year and > a half decided to spin a rod bearing -- > on the outside. Little damage, but > lots of oil heat. The new head is only > because I will run 13:1 compression. > The head I have been using is great also > -- it was done by Richard Junkermeier > [of whom I have heard nothing for the > last couple of years]. > > > > Also, do you know if Keith Files or any other Brits > are coming? > > > > Chuck > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: > http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kenandtweety@yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 19:51:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A2242753 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:51:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc3-s9.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc3-s9.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789F94040D; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:50:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT402-EAS447 ([65.55.90.137]) by snt0-omc3-s9.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:50:00 -0700 References: <20130820193714.4C96740417@autox.team.net> <53293D7C-3B45-44D5-97B9-A9564F8AFD59@aol.com> <20130821004339.B53C942763@autox.team.net> From: Vince G Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:49:56 -0400 To: "jason@multivintage.com" FILETIME=[BEF2C690:01CE9E10] Cc: "fot-bounces@autox.team.net" , 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are the GT6s? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If I can get a transmission together this weekend and test my GT6 successfully next week I'll make the 2 day haul and join you. I'm pretty sure that another GT6 / buddy's of mine will be there but may not have registered yet. Sent from my iPhone On 2013-08-20, at 8:43 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > The plot thickens. Interesting. Perhaps we will all get put in one group. VSCDA has been known to put all the featured marque cars in one group. That would be to my liking. Can't wait. > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chuck Gee > Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:00:26 > To: jason@multivintage.com > Cc: Scott Janzen; fot-bounces@autox.team.net; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph > Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are the GT6s? > > Actually, I registered for group 8 and they moved me to group 2. > > Chuck > > On Aug 20, 2013, at 4:36 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > >> I registered a few days ago. But note guys, GT6's are in group 8B2 not group two. Chuck registered for group 2 and that is for older TR's. We will all obviously run together in the cup. And in some of the other mixed class races. >> Jason Ostrowski >> Friendly Ghost Racing >> I will be racing the BRG#69 Zippy car and bringing along the Yellow #27 as well as my Dads original race car (freshly restored). >> Yep, it'll be a 3 car historical tribute to GT6 under the FGR tent. >> ------Original Message------ >> From: Scott Janzen >> Sender: fot-bounces@autox.team.net >> To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are the GT6s? >> Sent: Aug 20, 2013 1:29 PM >> >> what happened to the GT6 racers? I see Chuck on the list but no one else. >> One of the reasons for me to make a 14 hour tow is to be on the track with >> some other GT6s (he says, whining). >> >> Are you guys just procrastinating like I am? >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com >> >> >> >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 20:02:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA464044C for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:02:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s35.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s35.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.110]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0207942823 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:51:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT402-EAS471 ([65.55.90.71]) by snt0-omc2-s35.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:51:34 -0700 References: <7E2F8B91-3A79-4F28-BDFB-D9A4E4C848DA@cs.com> <3040A6CD-51E2-4B73-96DC-1088B36B29AF@cs.com> <5F781A5A-CFE9-4CBE-9741-4D9CA12AE942@me.com> <1377043242.34547.YahooMailNeo@web182206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Vince G Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:51:30 -0400 To: Bobby Whitehead FILETIME=[F70E54E0:01CE9E10] Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are the GT6s? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Where will 2014 K-cup be ? Sent from my iPhone On 2013-08-20, at 8:01 PM, "Bobby Whitehead" wrote: > Scott.. apologies to you and the list. I cannot come either. My car is not > quite ready but close. Brand new engine that's never fired plus I'm registered > for COTA in October. Money is what it is, plus the 2000 mile tug. I can't test > and tune at RA.. I just cant do it for several reasons. It's been emotional > and economical choices. I promise to make it up to the list at 2014 K > Kup.... Bobby Whitehead > > > > ________________________________ > From: Scott > Janzen > To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 1:29 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are > the GT6s? > > > what happened to the GT6 racers? I see Chuck on the list but no > one else. > One of the reasons for me to make a 14 hour tow is to be on the > track with > some other GT6s (he says, whining). > > Are you guys just > procrastinating like I am? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: > http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 20:05:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99FCF40547 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:05:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f46.google.com (mail-oa0-f46.google.com [209.85.219.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCE91403CF for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:04:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id j10so879327oah.19 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:04:37 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :references:in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:cc:from :date:content-type:mime-version; bh=tW8YVGEpR5CR/TjpbHMeQ1rT7xMB8SxRFuMx22X9uR8=; b=dcf7NQhOMqVXRfl4wCYOSp6UCBkmaRXQ4eY735VYhEXhGhZ1cuKrRMbs77TaZ+bU8K HAWkS8VKU1E6yMDhtQy2o9yJbVfXy6uq7qS0atTQwtFVEum1+GrHgb9FN9cTWzgypRwu b68glvfzVipguwMaGM0oTko5YkkQRbiw19gHmdG6UaYj5O0NsJgOd8xZgKSE19sZdyV5 dQ0wZ6m8RIr+Zo5vE9gFJClMubhI4bMIPzjRB+aamZExuzE8/QqNLbpMe+IVIPOdJnlF p4VVXtToB6isqJQ+epodxCepvR1ToSyctn2hn5G62NYurUOTcAjLBcwb3VhnPXZIAm+p HH2A== Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.187 (bda-74-82-80-176.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d3sm6571197oek.5.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:04:36 -0700 (PDT) References: <20130820193714.4C96740417@autox.team.net> <53293D7C-3B45-44D5-97B9-A9564F8AFD59@aol.com> <20130821004339.B53C942763@autox.team.net> Sensitivity: Normal To: "Vince G" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 02:04:32 +0000 Cc: "fot-bounces@autox.team.net" , 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are the GT6s? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Do it Vince. Your work will be rewarded. If there is one event that will enhance your vision of racing a GT6... It is the Kastner Cup. There is no other event that captures the spirit of racing a Triumph like this one. Not to mention that your contact list for keeping that brute going will grow ten fold. Make it happen Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Vince G Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:49:56 To: jason@multivintage.com Cc: Chuck Gee; fot-bounces@autox.team.net; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are the GT6s? If I can get a transmission together this weekend and test my GT6 successfully next week I'll make the 2 day haul and join you. I'm pretty sure that another GT6 / buddy's of mine will be there but may not have registered yet. Sent from my iPhone On 2013-08-20, at 8:43 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > The plot thickens. Interesting. Perhaps we will all get put in one group. VSCDA has been known to put all the featured marque cars in one group. That would be to my liking. Can't wait. > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chuck Gee > Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:00:26 > To: jason@multivintage.com > Cc: Scott Janzen; fot-bounces@autox.team.net; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph > Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are the GT6s? > > Actually, I registered for group 8 and they moved me to group 2. > > Chuck > > On Aug 20, 2013, at 4:36 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > >> I registered a few days ago. But note guys, GT6's are in group 8B2 not group two. Chuck registered for group 2 and that is for older TR's. We will all obviously run together in the cup. And in some of the other mixed class races. >> Jason Ostrowski >> Friendly Ghost Racing >> I will be racing the BRG#69 Zippy car and bringing along the Yellow #27 as well as my Dads original race car (freshly restored). >> Yep, it'll be a 3 car historical tribute to GT6 under the FGR tent. >> ------Original Message------ >> From: Scott Janzen >> Sender: fot-bounces@autox.team.net >> To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are the GT6s? >> Sent: Aug 20, 2013 1:29 PM >> >> what happened to the GT6 racers? I see Chuck on the list but no one else. >> One of the reasons for me to make a 14 hour tow is to be on the track with >> some other GT6s (he says, whining). >> >> Are you guys just procrastinating like I am? >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com >> >> >> >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 20:17:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361874044E for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:17:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f54.google.com (mail-oa0-f54.google.com [209.85.219.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 966C9403D8 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:08:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id o6so2475250oag.27 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:08:00 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :references:in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:cc:from :date:content-type:mime-version; bh=j5YApPDbyhUXAlQesQ6092xpG2ZsIZAXMHu3BryKk8U=; b=gRFpFz2pJNehycpIqZDvdPCir/SxL5SXetED+6YcTdm/HITlYGlOJ81fOJbp5u2asW dgtCPTEG/3b+HraONnUOmNFWf7+McuYa1RU80fPzNEX6BstrBftdyaM5gNQXTzUqzPNt gXbmVS0lZysl3tejua1dUqYBsfQ1r3RsctgmTuW0No3LhR1nkWgQUbf5l7h6Gs6A0/Zv LjQKqM7jZ+TC5paVzO73uKrRWxyTRyC5yEUDR4CZvIdg+zvbDcM8StiRQdjBbI8DziZ+ 1djmXkAd0qlO/oKC6tYKhJiiUitIq8GN1DOjSfa6viMa3irmkxWcn0dzRew8XoIIcm7W NfcA== w3mr5198235oel.10.1377050880760; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:08:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.187 (bda-74-82-80-176.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id jz7sm6570126obb.4.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:08:00 -0700 (PDT) References: <7E2F8B91-3A79-4F28-BDFB-D9A4E4C848DA@cs.com> <3040A6CD-51E2-4B73-96DC-1088B36B29AF@cs.com> <5F781A5A-CFE9-4CBE-9741-4D9CA12AE942@me.com> <1377043242.34547.YahooMailNeo@web182206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Sensitivity: Normal To: "Vince G" ,fot-bounces@autox.team.net,"Bobby Whitehead" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 02:07:56 +0000 Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are the GT6s? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Texas, to far for you... Looks like you better get going on that trans... Get er done and see you in 2 weeks. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Vince G To: Bobby Whitehead Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are the GT6s? Where will 2014 K-cup be ? Sent from my iPhone On 2013-08-20, at 8:01 PM, "Bobby Whitehead" wrote: > Scott.. apologies to you and the list. I cannot come either. My car is not > quite ready but close. Brand new engine that's never fired plus I'm registered > for COTA in October. Money is what it is, plus the 2000 mile tug. I can't test > and tune at RA.. I just cant do it for several reasons. It's been emotional > and economical choices. I promise to make it up to the list at 2014 K > Kup.... Bobby Whitehead > > > > ________________________________ > From: Scott > Janzen > To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 1:29 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are > the GT6s? > > > what happened to the GT6 racers? I see Chuck on the list but no > one else. > One of the reasons for me to make a 14 hour tow is to be on the > track with > some other GT6s (he says, whining). > > Are you guys just > procrastinating like I am? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: > http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 20:21:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46FFE42739 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:21:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc3-s15.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc3-s15.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.154]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F37A403CF; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:15:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT401-EAS265 ([65.55.90.136]) by snt0-omc3-s15.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:15:33 -0700 References: <20130820193714.4C96740417@autox.team.net> <53293D7C-3B45-44D5-97B9-A9564F8AFD59@aol.com> <20130821004339.B53C942763@autox.team.net> <188170304-1377050674-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1061732512-@b14.c3.bise6.blackberry> From: Vince G Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 22:15:30 -0400 To: "jason@multivintage.com" FILETIME=[5108D170:01CE9E14] Cc: "fot-bounces@autox.team.net" , 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are the GT6s? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm definitely going to try. Unfortunately I have to shingle my roof this weekend as well. More time and money.... And not planned for. Damn Sent from my iPhone On 2013-08-20, at 10:04 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > Do it Vince. Your work will be rewarded. If there is one event that will enhance your vision of racing a GT6... It is the Kastner Cup. There is no other event that captures the spirit of racing a Triumph like this one. Not to mention that your contact list for keeping that brute going will grow ten fold. > Make it happen > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vince G > Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:49:56 > To: jason@multivintage.com > Cc: Chuck Gee; fot-bounces@autox.team.net; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph > Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are the GT6s? > > If I can get a transmission together this weekend and test my GT6 successfully next week I'll make the 2 day haul and join you. I'm pretty sure that another GT6 / buddy's of mine will be there but may not have registered yet. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2013-08-20, at 8:43 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > >> The plot thickens. Interesting. Perhaps we will all get put in one group. VSCDA has been known to put all the featured marque cars in one group. That would be to my liking. Can't wait. >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Chuck Gee >> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:00:26 >> To: jason@multivintage.com >> Cc: Scott Janzen; fot-bounces@autox.team.net; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are the GT6s? >> >> Actually, I registered for group 8 and they moved me to group 2. >> >> Chuck >> >> On Aug 20, 2013, at 4:36 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: >> >>> I registered a few days ago. But note guys, GT6's are in group 8B2 not group two. Chuck registered for group 2 and that is for older TR's. We will all obviously run together in the cup. And in some of the other mixed class races. >>> Jason Ostrowski >>> Friendly Ghost Racing >>> I will be racing the BRG#69 Zippy car and bringing along the Yellow #27 as well as my Dads original race car (freshly restored). >>> Yep, it'll be a 3 car historical tribute to GT6 under the FGR tent. >>> ------Original Message------ >>> From: Scott Janzen >>> Sender: fot-bounces@autox.team.net >>> To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] Entries - where are the GT6s? >>> Sent: Aug 20, 2013 1:29 PM >>> >>> what happened to the GT6 racers? I see Chuck on the list but no one else. >>> One of the reasons for me to make a 14 hour tow is to be on the track with >>> some other GT6s (he says, whining). >>> >>> Are you guys just procrastinating like I am? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee@aol.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 20:55:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E0940450 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:55:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E96340402 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:46:31 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=gG5DQpUNAaww/Kr6tJL+rA==:17 a=zgvILx03LV0A:10 a=CpbGzARDir4A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=YyE20tNxmKQA:10 a=KwXVfUvKAAAA:8 a=zxuNHrySAAAA:8 a=-glWuAkMtiFlpSv21rwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=3vvlvS2op8MA:10 a=sLsWDsoJ2xYA:10 a=6tf3RyzccUQA:10 a=Dmm3UuXqt58A:10 a=iM1XtmBo_YTkrbpR:21 a=5y2soZ0DF3Vqa4CP:21 a=BrwGUXVemnqxzU_3L5QA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=l8Qb2TFh0aJX6MV_:21 a=gG5DQpUNAaww/Kr6tJL+rA==:117 Received: from [70.112.94.250] ([70.112.94.250:56894] helo=[192.168.1.105]) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 38/03-11231-50A24125; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 02:46:30 +0000 References: <804D7C1E-FF3A-416A-AB63-E92564E15EDF@atkinsglobal.com> From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:46:29 -0500 To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Hoosier Speedsters on my 1958 TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have a crack showing on the sidewalks of my Hoosier speedsters which was concerning me. See email chain below for reply from Hoosier, good news and a little informative. The crack is located pretty consistently right through the r in Hoosier. Made me think it might be something related to construction of the tire. If you want a pic, let me know. Greg Begin forwarded message: > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jeff Speer [mailto:jaspeer@hoosiertire.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:27 AM >> To: Blake, Gregory S >> Subject: RE: Hoosier Speedsters on my 1958 TR3 >> >> Greg, >> Thanks for writing me with your concern about this cracking line on your Speedsters. This is not a concern, as this crack is the edge of the tread rubber which is applied to the tire and then folded down onto the sidewall. >> >> Over time(new tires in Feb. 2012) this line will become more apparent to the user. >> >> I would continue using them if the performance of the tires are still good. There is no safety concern with this cosmetic issue. >> >> Also, I do not think storage conditions had any part of this tire sidewall cracking, just age or time. >> >> Any other questions, please write me. >> >> >> Jeffrey A. Speer >> Product Manager >> >> Hoosier Racing Tire >> 65465 US Hwy 31 >> Lakeville, IN 46536 >> www.hoosiertire.com >> Phone: 574-784-3152 >> Fax: 574-784-2385 >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Blake, Gregory S [mailto:greg.blake@atkinsglobal.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:28 AM >> To: Ken Boyle >> Subject: Hoosier Speedsters on my 1958 TR3 >> >> To whom it may concern, >> >> I have attached a photo of one of my tires on my TR3. The crack shown is on all tires on both sidewalls in the same location relative to the distance from the rim. I did not see this kind of cracking on my first set of Hoosiers purchased in 2009, but can't say that I was looking for it either. This set was purchased in Feb '12 in Texas. They have plenty of grip left and still show depth in the tread pattern so I was planning to use them at TWS with CVAR in September and possibly with SVRA at COTA in Oct, then buy a new set for next year. >> >> I need to know if I should be concerned with this type of cracking? Is there something that I have done to cause this? Typical storage is car on jacks, tires remained mounted with minimal pressure stored in corner of my garage sitting on the side walls stack 4 high. I don't cover the tires while in the garage. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Greg Blake >> #4(now #41) Silver TR3. Pic attached of car too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> The IS team in Atkins has scanned this email and any attachments for viruses and other threats; however no technology can be guaranteed to detect all threats. Always exercise caution before acting on the content of an email and before opening attachments or following links contained within the email. >> >> This electronic mail communication may contain privileged, confidential, and/or proprietary information which is the property of The Atkins North America Corporation, WS Atkins plc or one of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient or an authorized agent of the intended recipient please delete this communication and notify the sender that you have received it in error. A list of wholly owned Atkins Group companies can be found at http://www.atkinsglobal.com/site-services/group-company-registration-details >> >> Consider the environment. Please don't print this email unless you really need to. >> >> >> ________________________________ >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the exclusive and confidential use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you may not make any use of, or rely in any way on this information and you should destroy this message and notify the sender by reply email. >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> The IS team in Atkins has scanned this email and any attachments for viruses and other threats; however no technology can be guaranteed to detect all threats. Always exercise caution before acting on the content of an email and before opening attachments or following links contained within the email. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 22:36:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF6040449 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 22:36:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy3-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy3-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.30.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E24C403FA for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 22:36:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 2138 invoked by uid 0); 21 Aug 2013 04:36:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy4.unifiedlayer.com) (66.147.243.73) by gproxy3.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 21 Aug 2013 04:36:02 -0000 {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Received: from just64.justhost.com (just64.justhost.com [173.254.28.64]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.87); Wed, 21 Aug 2013 04:36:02 GMT Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=59307 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VC09K-0006dF-ED; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 22:36:02 -0600 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 23:36:00 -0500 To: "MadMarx" , From: Tony Drews References: <53b211a2.ad4547.1409d555e8c.Webtop.47@charter.net> <54A3BEAD-DA27-45EA-AE20-1909D01D0E47@cs.com> <001f01ce9de5$edccd9e0$c9668da0$@com> <66716F58-B9CA-4FB7-9C72-14575FBEFA52@gdhs.com> <002f01ce9df3$1706abd0$45140370$@com> {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Triumph Royalty at the KCup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If you are in the hotel that most of the Triumph guys are in, that's the Ostoff Hotel in Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin. Tony At 05:17 PM 8/20/2013, MadMarx wrote: >Does anybody know in which hotel I am? > >I lost the name. > >Chris >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 23:37:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC4D40401 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 23:37:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F234403D8 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 23:37:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.87]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id FHd81m0051smiN4A1HdkBd; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 05:37:44 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id FHdi1m00W4L5TyG8gHdjW3; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 05:37:44 +0000 From: Bud R To: Dan Forgey Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 23:37:42 -0600 References: <2073950455.2382020.1377020824191.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> s=q20121106; t=1377063464; bh=hSOmyWU9A78kHW7czprdWGfexvpwoGS3ndGpsR4gKj8=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=pgaI24XzDIdcwzqju3R/bx9pril3axvpWkcDXFjYyLthL/lflROXwZztu8AeKLyog 8KqEzEY/s1YcXdiGNmugRBIglfTUHvQsSIbdpXhyWvtTXN+VMk1F/6RURIbDD0BO/z fCoMR8oW/caTM4/h+CX+VWC1CnLUzQKtq6Nsbo06CIg0p7Z54+KpwqjKyKpkWc/4qg JH/yhvtUBe6Y2Y/eOXHzfBLPYttn1EqsdYv6eApysOfGCSnfLrMaRQ8MbFgnN8dWIc 7H4nqaEH3Z3i+3oNJqK578m4COKfE/LBVQbI01OhK7bIcjWv/uxI7qhAVjo+PFuIb5 tRQXyaJpHEBOg== Cc: triumph fot Subject: [Fot] I haven't given up yet. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Oh yea of little faith. Some have apparently given up on me, but I haven't. I'm pretty sure I haven't told anyone yet that I wasn't going. I've still got some windows open to have a race car at the K-Cup so while the odds are indeed getting longer I have not given up yet. Until those windows close I'm wrenching on. Bud Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Aug 20, 2013, at 11:47 AM, cofrog@q.com wrote: > For various and a sundry reasons only Jim Gray is coming from RMVR _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 21 00:07:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5915F40439 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 00:07:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C05A403DA for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 00:00:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.74]) by qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id FHWf1m0061bwxycA5J0N5B; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 06:00:22 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id FJ0M1m00B4L5TyG8eJ0M26; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 06:00:22 +0000 From: Bud R To: triumph fot Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 00:00:21 -0600 References: <2073950455.2382020.1377020824191.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> s=q20121106; t=1377064822; bh=VGa2HNqySbvXiRuqWIHTXbsDjvk4XPIAEdSuenuj6fk=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=qApF+DraOBf07n8aLPe45R9xcpjtRpCF6Zh8JF3Df4/WBZG+Vtg8EQ+dHNmJoGQpQ oiMUwJ4sIo09DUjHejEmnqgDiKyWqRbBwKOj9+NR/y/gM9qsoWAiFnn8VXQn0pEOiq ZeYz39ohXuM0WIN168NoZe8hBq+I4oPGqGfxDnFkaXqGuFj7pI6q1o72X2rTiYDMby nuPcGAVV6xjLPdz0PH+uTeq0cWUWnNAz5SWh3Ik8HsXijXSm7lkk94JHMGF3SC5iE/ zMDqZqOVtgfhujW0TCf14Z1T+lDlyv2+JdJSRitsi1N0l9O3BsJLD326ZSk/d/eFmd Nq6YOaDPTQ0vA== Subject: [Fot] I haven't given up yet. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Oh yea of little faith. Some have apparently given up on me, but I haven't. I'm pretty sure I haven't told anyone yet that I wasn't going. I've still got some windows open to have a race car at the K-Cup so while the odds are indeed getting longer I have not given up yet. Until those windows close I'm wrenching on. Bud Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) 2013, at 11:47 AM, cofrog@q.com wrote: > For various and a sundry reasons only Jim Gray is coming from RMVR _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 21 07:10:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E843240435 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 07:10:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com (omr-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18A2403BB for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 07:10:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.12]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 46AB3700DABEF; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 09:10:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtd003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtd003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.201]) by mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 05790E00008C; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 09:10:02 -0400 (EDT) References: <804D7C1E-FF3A-416A-AB63-E92564E15EDF@atkinsglobal.com> <3A29763A-C41E-4746-9740-AD8A14172C28@austin.rr.com> To: ablake2@austin.rr.com, fot@autox.team.net From: billdentin@aol.com Received: from 70.194.130.61 by webmail-va008.sysops.aol.com (149.174.114.117) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 21 Aug 2013 09:10:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 09:10:01 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377090602; bh=xiNtaoJZxbH8myncetjUNDr6vzzHmfyuxUmxRwKRqDA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AehrJnq5K2poducni6kRvbflAyD63cE9FkV+KlZ/TnsHYft5fD1nFHDqt/fkTl2KY m/udDldT8jEHghgRfjJJ298QmZuqoxX2ZYQUYcubUrz+u6SxGWmP4zVCy9WnCFITGV UDh9HrWWx/qffAHn43CeCuRu6NRVZnSBB1oo5jCc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290c5214bc2a71ce Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Hoosier Speedsters on my 1958 TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net WOW! That's a pretty straight forward response from Hoosier. No PYA beating around the bush. I'm impressed. Bill Dentinger >> -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Speer [mailto:jaspeer@hoosiertire.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:27 AM > To: Blake, Gregory S > Subject: RE: Hoosier Speedsters on my 1958 TR3 > > Greg, > Thanks for writing me with your concern about this cracking line on your peedsters. This is not a concern, as this crack is the edge of the tread ubber which is applied to the tire and then folded down onto the sidewall. > > Over time(new tires in Feb. 2012) this line will become more apparent to he user. > > I would continue using them if the performance of the tires are still good. here is no safety concern with this cosmetic issue. > > Also, I do not think storage conditions had any part of this tire sidewall racking, just age or time. > > Any other questions, please write me. > > > Jeffrey A. Speer > Product Manager > > Hoosier Racing Tire > 65465 US Hwy 31 > Lakeville, IN 46536 > www.hoosiertire.com > Phone: 574-784-3152 > Fax: 574-784-2385 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Blake, Gregory S [mailto:greg.blake@atkinsglobal.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:28 AM > To: Ken Boyle > Subject: Hoosier Speedsters on my 1958 TR3 > > To whom it may concern, > > I have attached a photo of one of my tires on my TR3. The crack shown is n all tires on both sidewalls in the same location relative to the distance rom the rim. I did not see this kind of cracking on my first set of Hoosiers urchased in 2009, but can't say that I was looking for it either. This set as purchased in Feb '12 in Texas. They have plenty of grip left and still how depth in the tread pattern so I was planning to use them at TWS with CVAR n September and possibly with SVRA at COTA in Oct, then buy a new set for ext year. > > I need to know if I should be concerned with this type of cracking? Is here something that I have done to cause this? Typical storage is car on acks, tires remained mounted with minimal pressure stored in corner of my arage sitting on the side walls stack 4 high. I don't cover the tires while n the garage. > > Thanks, > > Greg Blake > #4(now #41) Silver TR3. Pic attached of car too. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > The IS team in Atkins has scanned this email and any attachments for iruses and other threats; however no technology can be guaranteed to detect ll threats. Always exercise caution before acting on the content of an email nd before opening attachments or following links contained within the email. > > This electronic mail communication may contain privileged, confidential, nd/or proprietary information which is the property of The Atkins North merica Corporation, WS Atkins plc or one of its affiliates. If you are not he intended recipient or an authorized agent of the intended recipient please elete this communication and notify the sender that you have received it in rror. A list of wholly owned Atkins Group companies can be found at ttp://www.atkinsglobal.com/site-services/group-company-registration-details > > Consider the environment. Please don't print this email unless you really eed to. > > > ________________________________ > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the xclusive and confidential use of the intended recipient. If you are not the ntended recipient of this message, you may not make any use of, or rely in ny way on this information and you should destroy this message and notify the ender by reply email. > > __________________________________________________________________________ > The IS team in Atkins has scanned this email and any attachments for iruses and other threats; however no technology can be guaranteed to detect ll threats. Always exercise caution before acting on the content of an email nd before opening attachments or following links contained within the email. ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 21 09:42:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FEBA40422 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 09:42:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d10.mx.aol.com (omr-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345F540321 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 09:34:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.196]) by omr-d10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 3E0097004A184; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:31:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.231.68.181] (unknown [199.250.75.44]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id D19D4E000085; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:31:56 -0400 (EDT) References: <000001ce9e82$5c294a30$147bde90$@klaenv.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:31:52 -0500 To: Kenneth Knight x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377099117; bh=+91s4m46bZ/21SM5oCcaOx7vlJvPAezRt1zctaBu11A=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=iRnthIEQ5wl6NBWDVomYUSZYJpRQXvC7quZPyjGJxacLT2gTzQPMIQOnc/IaYVZ7h N/J6L9iNxxn6p4VgPKu9BkOgHfOGR7bIh0eNTp9HtthRQOtWx/4D6QHh9Ri2DwJHEM MizFRTW8f67fNl0Mu5dgjmUrBY5oGadjOP8/CE/0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c45214dd6c35d2 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Kit To Load Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ken, Since you are in the garages....., Power has been run in the garages, so GenSet should not be needed. Myself, I am leaving my EZ UP at home. It's heavy. Have a good trip. FOT: BTW, there may be some garage spaces becoming available. Check with Jason, The Paddock Master. Sent from my iPad On Aug 21, 2013, at 10:23 AM, "Kenneth Knight" wrote: > Joe: > > I am getting down to sorting what to pack for the trip to the Kup. With all the tires and spares I have a very full load. What is your thought about needing my Pop Up and generator? They take a fair amount of space that could be used for something. With the covered area do you think they are needed? > > Thanks, Ken _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 21 10:01:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66AD94041B for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:01:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f49.google.com (mail-vb0-f49.google.com [209.85.212.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA4940324 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 09:55:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f49.google.com with SMTP id w16so425538vbb.36 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 08:55:07 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=nJp1cwq/NZtUnIUfw+De8nQzG8AN29KeM1dDk541OmA=; b=dSSyKDx/YfGN+2FoZNiEBw0exheF+Dd6asNEndD7cGaCDV3ULSeXenGFFHS6JDHSqH mVnzACXGQa4sfzjzTwePrRXaEUGsjIQ/YmHzrgUj6WoC/layhBvXPniYo9Rq5uhg761Y uH8vEySYjmUrgxLgBfUlnBWkPR5nVSe9X4R6gJOPM+cNnBdPeD1q7gCFVjdftDHoaYaB IkK6vv39B7sLo2AlpOdtYEFytTFUEgLpITtxrPmmbQR91M4Vlm1OOPeleKC1edaShyxX ITSmAX/gHcVRDt0GnXpAVscvxHacBdfwytJno0bab3QCg4E+g4AlEXpMEecuvVEYsglr f8VA== sy3mr1129348vdc.35.1377100507444; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 08:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.19.166 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 08:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:55:07 -0500 From: Jason Ostrowski To: triumph friends Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Remaining garage spaces Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Greetings! There are a couple spaces that have opened up in the garages for the Kastner Cup weekend at Road America. This will be your last chance to reserve space in the center of all the action. Spaces are $50.00 each and includes POWER. The last spaces can be ordered now by responding to this email. Thanks. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Paddock Master Kastner Cup at Road America. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 21 13:40:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8986D40430 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 13:40:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF56403FC for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:53:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.130]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 976967010A417; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:53:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.72.238.56] (72-255-25-46.client.stsn.net [72.255.25.46]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 59F89E00012E; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:53:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mark A. Eden" Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:53:50 -0400 To: "joeg@neb.rr.com" , FOT@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377039228; bh=3QScPGA2LPqgwrejFF/zC8znbrbtp+xzAF0JUxXFT9Q=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=dLlFCytA4nW33Oyb6bfP8CVWmnX8Hhj1LmcNh0nU//3VzrraWTCzihM/j2M22Jap5 Y8blvAu/YY7VJFxOhOti76k5sL1RSw4tZHK508D3d1ERYRgE2ZdmO5Pd7yz9ZIat4/ hl/3yqNZ90ZF3mlcrs0hwK+8hFzdg94P0H98KwFo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33825213f37c1e15 Subject: [Fot] Spotted Cow Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe: You are spot on about "Spotted Cow." My other favorite, also from New Glarus, was "Fat Squirrel." I am told however that it is now longer available. Cheers! Mark A. Eden (Formerly based in MKE, now in purgatory (Chicago)) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 21 14:14:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE49340558 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:14:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm22-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm22-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.152]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17AB0403BB for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:09:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.50] by nm22.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2013 20:08:59 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.234] by tm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2013 20:08:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1034.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2013 20:08:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 54242 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Aug 2013 20:08:59 -0000 s=s1024; t=1377115739; bh=JIcG6Omk8HDWiyXchdrlRVNIfPV7H8wbSB2WregsfJU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=riaXYOiihBGA2e2qqRGb1cxW23CP3qN+vQ4k7U6ZxI2uXSoR8sIydHb6a7ieGnr8P+B4Vudw9acGy0RnaLhFrsusbxoNJWKoDvu+eL92fCWCzFAb4kse3MvN2ZTPjasaOx2MwuzZsM+q41s2p0pVECxGgBGO3zW1untBWNIX61A= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kC4XtBnI8td8k2lA0SGBuetZkRaR0ZGMgrdXbOG4Gya8xheV1qXs7cBANNMapHBvRwe0/agZu166Q7A8AuWbJlks9pq32hIUVEpQGBUR1ek34ZwDPhMBlznPmtdb1xW+V2YCwaKeWRdg0wPe34r1fVnk3BqRCmCta9MPfvxLABA=; o3QoCklcho2Evf7Ea0C9Zhxl5h8TVEtL_htm_LlohGEzeJl.A5KuhTAJJVn8 ZbTog7inFdV6Gi7TfddX4RPNyjW7A8E5T15vyu16GuAEW7QQz3hb4NLt0glo 44D3kG9Z7HptMEgZG.CQJopkajribCJjJEMtPnwrnwbtzh3LY4GcRGd16d9t 8qVBTVz.xpsovbAmFOHmz_3aAn.XFT03zuLgseUuQ8dGxSIh8ozP0TLr3obj I6oSSkj7V5KSgGHfeuhCq2dVy.DewubKjFKv6Lalpmq_4MrSRsmkx8Ryvi4T IfM8sAmIILNbA379s1Op67dv.TtHrxwGe57EEgvCxa7TwAltTBXjOqBqSYev MKPU5HVzEoK1.Wgw3Qt5cTiP9K86zO97bqgsWPMLmbSB2dYEmzK8WH9LQkj0 GWNHHKJBaiwBL9Z4kXpipGqLIMZlCClzuqvqq7dYiQpMxIimEWxexLLlsQ6N h_De4S.l9qq38Ez7XOy5HGYeWk.b9w0C9DWnvhlPWMmWZVFTg1xtGosYn0NW 5ZBErwi9isBxJD3NIBcc6xItesPcTlHb7sWOVkDFmPZmeHkS8yZqB8uYt7TP 1mI6zQf3DSE8jxa9OxEw- Received: from [198.208.251.21] by web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 13:08:58 PDT V2hpbGUgd2UgYXJlIHNoYXJpbmcgdmlkZW9zLCBoZXJlcyBvbmUgZnJvbSBteSByYWNlIGF0IENoYXJsb3R0ZSB0aGlzIHBhc3Qgd2Vla2VuZC4KWW91IGNhbiBhbHNvIHNlZSBmZWxsb3cgRk9UZXIgSm9lIERvd25lciAoQ2h1bXBjYXIgVHI2KSBpbiBhIGJsYWNrIE1pZGdldC4KwqAKwqAKwqAKwqAKwqAKwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgIGh0dHA6Ly95b3V0dS5iZS92SnZ0VWFYay11MAEwAQEBAQ-- Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 13:08:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Munson To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] Video from Charlotte Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net While we are sharing videos, heres one from my race at Charlotte this past weekend. You can also see fellow FOTer Joe Downer (Chumpcar Tr6) in a black Midget. http://youtu.be/vJvtUaXk-u0 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 21 14:42:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383B042745 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:42:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.159]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC91403FB for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:35:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Charly (unknown [97.126.74.225]) (Authenticated sender: charly@mitchelplumbing.com) by smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 2E5465D80B7; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 15:35:24 -0500 (CDT) From: "Charly Mitchel" To: "Mike Munson" , References: <1377115738.54134.YahooMailNeo@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 13:35:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [Fot] Video from Charlotte Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Looks like a good track for a TR6. Must be a hoot to pass cars on the corners at 125mph! Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Munson" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:08 PM Subject: [Fot] Video from Charlotte > While we are sharing videos, heres one from my race at Charlotte this past > weekend. > You can also see fellow FOTer Joe Downer (Chumpcar Tr6) in a black > Midget. > > > > > > http://youtu.be/vJvtUaXk-u0 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 21 18:02:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E017D403F8 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 18:02:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm28.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm28.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.187]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9484009B for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:59:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.147] by nm28.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2013 23:59:32 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.214] by tm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2013 23:59:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1023.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2013 23:59:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 48832 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Aug 2013 23:59:32 -0000 s=s1024; t=1377129572; bh=2wk+JT0v8UT/mDTtv/VyeRpcwcSpE11malwNjTeIen4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0QEl3sepkWN3sd0il752wjdLcNHGPdFyCobASf38CTYF94NXKwRzbUVFU0saw3wNyyimV7b5PoqYZfQf8Tn5Qy9MH9RYSoRoPdm8vgybH2NNjACQwCGGdqvThR2DDS5LKZ2Pz7dqDqxBsLMPQci0FR0DBTea5CEUsfOTPnUuzNY= s=s1024; d=ymail.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kG4cwwV6SA7Ovgv4qhJW3qlNDVxnCfUEnla8eboMmTeofEJEiP9KWVNrmkewlBxzonrvOSE6At4CKFjU1Uh04JYNt1Aiwp9Ld1otQ50Db9s+5TcGjdRJaCuUzOserr42t97aJgt4WNULlGNzuWkYrasmhzXnVKWyHur5fcnrgC4=; 90w8zOmkIATeufMbq9aHu72DhnHW2kPDzz1XmHmeNTQi7azbYz.keSh0JyFw njVMs04f5598f8Qtekvx4nRW9D3XQqpVQzt5SnCWYWfAv.NUrwef48NdSei_ 9Dn5O0erhw2ogIrIrRWhnOnzlGPxv.FMwEw74pYdcsZGz4BNNq3ortu21G.0 gLWKLyKb0IySfjQeqLMWiHm.vJ5vwhO0yK86WYDkOvaDvr8EsNM2aiT1m5bW uwu8n9AnWR5MJmiuxum6mC648dXe4sltrgIKFWtGnJtGwcJT1JAt_wvljDPL 3HDeCxEvsgfasizixjD1esBzrXXOe..b1GUBCctB420dH0Rw__ik7uedp2NT N4aRLZ.SwNnSTfHoO8DVV2kskvXvjof9tKqByMSSESPtvvAsByG5PpAG6aIG .81vzQ8Fap2Ofyasa1LJuenifdLIFbKBH2oq1LAdIWGz76n_5WTfbcXpYCWD PJ7e.ATnbv9sxGHFpxQ8INkhXDXyIhG_SYkOBrUqsi4YHAgCzfp7c9zicpY9 Lfyydd_Z2RiLGH6QuXZmBKWvpPTgEeZTjSQ78efDofVNEeFG1RivVGBk1Lry QAvKA8p0XrThL8B3Lz.jiAVRjO80qTdvDyAl44MNZOQkdIB8ir5VancqrANR bVDCSTNfBI9TOcaNwj5t3FCmUnPGo9oI- Received: from [173.19.243.239] by web161802.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 16:59:32 PDT QW1pY2kKSSBoYXZlIGEgdGhyZWUgYmVkcm9vbSBzdWl0ZSBhdCBPc3Rob2ZmcyBzdGFydGluZyBUaHVyc2RheSBuaWdodCBmb3IgdGhlIEt1cCB3ZWVrZW5kLiBVbmZvcnR1bmF0ZWx5LCBJIGhhdmUgaGFkIHNvbWUgYXR0cml0aW9uIGluIG15IGdyb3VwLiBJIGhhdmUgdHdvIHJvb21zIGF2YWlsYWJsZSBpZiBhbnlvbmUgaXMgaW50ZXJlc3RlZC4gCkNvbnRhY3QgbWUgYXQgcndlc3RmYWxsQHltYWlsLmNvbSBvciA2MTIgOTkxIDM0MTggaWYgaW50ZXJlc3RlZC4KUnVzcyBXZXN0ZmFsbAoBMAEBAQE- Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 16:59:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Russell Westfall To: Charly Mitchel , fasttrs@yahoo.com, fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Video from Charlotte Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici I have a three bedroom suite at Osthoffs starting Thursday night for the Kup weekend. Unfortunately, I have had some attrition in my group. I have two rooms available if anyone is interested. Contact me at rwestfall@ymail.com or 612 991 3418 if interested. Russ Westfall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 21 19:19:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 939A640411 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 19:19:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm13-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm13-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.251]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C49403BA for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 19:16:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.175] by nm13.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2013 01:16:14 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.252] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2013 01:16:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1023.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2013 01:16:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 45935 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Aug 2013 01:16:14 -0000 s=s1024; t=1377134174; bh=XQGYRYdsaLMoRRFpe1HOWo6eXLqK4ijkVOy1eCNA/0c=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DSkvUQzwLFJnfF0kLYuBRndUa3e6q9O/jOh131SYrn5jnEgtH0BhaKAXSEE3uvxO7maNdjE5oviLmvbxeTRk8z8UB7WzDuq4M7q0g5/okS3NGH7gc/+Npfz7Yy6VYiGz3lFh/56SbtbNtpjBGVzfAL9oZPkj5sG6Lb0iTciQoww= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=k4rKJdLvxxvMoErPCdrBE8JDCmtRTxCm0D8mp8WF5GeIGVw7iBTYqq/+awRxC62MSLfF6w22mjLii0GO0Tl7K79HA7vGh3SyXel/rxk8yVdj9AP3ffbtqRj8Fo6tCVlnmXwv8tCJnx9N2O4a7xnUvzSQ120cQF1ceTbWyaNlLCo=; V7OP6loVf9xYDurAe1YdLALchpvgxkyHpIg58kLyl1vg9XT0QZm3FzOwq7LS BjIYBh.U3TkvS9u_4NMdb04pFvD7fNQQLOKic7g6ICD6nopYhun_dIuUUhjL ezxhx8wM6vx81vqDl.M0XbE8AoOjTCGGlvSLNnU35juUzQ7upAMN0Wxffwdd FTk4LBl1vBtrWdWaMX.1O6mmw30aVxi4wEayfzzQ3uh0aj0lWemDqoD42._p 8kd9TUqTZZCu31OLsvWAFx4cMebkau9c.9f.A2i549aGFs70L_7F09hWWdN2 DBWfeiTiVDuhItqftSknVW7yZRBC54qtD7Y0CHTOjhEQrq7DA4M9Dm2LuD2. z0kBpccFRl7oBlfUSNBRFqPAony2vtkyCv_Vxi_vUSwLyBwXb2ic6wEocCPw uk0MA5ZYe9g5fttomTznux9.a_Ym2W7gK2.gc9L7fDwGbuvLoaacEXaoh394 _dg3BK700Jb25JggCXHu5K4M16e48DbSdsm20DnR9xg3fLuCrAYr36r2pB5K cyDzYLW3vHPAfQcGVPPL.4H1stVrX3HyrXYuCqPIVB9T1Dvrb38qQsfJUqUo DkcBKhVSZVPimdwO2tcE9zEP8hZLY.7tgkht6mfOeGtXxmrxbWcVKLWFIkGh NTwiUEZn5YhEcyPkOJS4- Received: from [99.60.75.95] by web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 18:16:14 PDT TmljZSB2aWRlbyBidXQgSSBoYXRlIHRoZSBjdXJyZW50IHRyZW5kIG9mIHNwb3J0cyBjYXIgcmFjaW5nIGluIHRoZSBVU0EuwqAgSXQncyBsaWtlIHRoZSBidWxrIG9mIEFtZXJpY2FuIG1vdG9yIHNwb3J0IHNwZWN0YXRvcnPCoGFyZSBzbyBzaGFsbG93IHRoYXQgdGhleSBjYW4gb25seSBrZWVwIHVwIHdpdGggY2FycyB0aGF0IGxvb2sgbGlrZSBzb21ldGhpbmcgaW4gdGhlaXIgZHJpdmV3YXkgdGhhdCBhcmXCoGdvaW5nIGFyb3VuZCBpbiBjaXJjbGVzLsKgIFllcywgSSByZWFsaXplIHRoYXQgdGhlcmUgaXMBMAEBAQE- References: <1377115738.54134.YahooMailNeo@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 18:16:14 -0700 (PDT) From: sherry robyn To: Mike Munson , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Video from Charlotte Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Nice video but I hate the current trend of sports car racing in the USA. It's like the bulk of American motor sport spectators are so shallow that they can only keep up with cars that look like something in their driveway that are going around in circles. Yes, I realize that there is plenty of action in the infield and that turn one off the bank is tough but I don't like appeasing these spectators that believe all auto racing is some form or another of NASCAR. Jim ________________________________ From: Mike Munson To: "fot@autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:08 PM Subject: [Fot] Video from Charlotte While we are sharing videos, heres one from my race at Charlotte this past weekend. You can also see fellow FOTer Joe Downer (Chumpcar Tr6) in a black Midget. http://youtu.be/vJvtUaXk-u0 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sherryjimmy6116@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 21 19:54:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C287F40435 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 19:54:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f52.google.com (mail-oa0-f52.google.com [209.85.219.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A66EF403DD for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 19:54:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id f4so1428567oah.11 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 18:54:29 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date:content-type :mime-version; bh=fu04ZWfP2LJo5X4HV3xiI4LqGAaqPxSma7mo82P3sLw=; b=T/7DSkhiUdrKZ59med0J0udsOHWWAoeSOShBRVoprPgUvqj+M46Gr2HLt0/A5Ty8nb XkQuh0EWEIRn4f8tJAbh5FbqB1yn1tSTQkh4Aam3rADCi2Za5hbBWHY11W+AtibOMtvG gLm5L2IW5w5Oc8G74M8uNIhJAm+wdNafQyCHqzA9Et8KRaTyqE16G+w4ZJPI6FodfVd7 vYyi5zMDVe98MCyRSQdz7cP3XUz5/bK5tVJtTPi3jBxkRwhJBpjPVsty5868qEm42gDI KWZ5tbZGp3OVkoEhdr7z7RXQtcu4EFKZ8nLeeaglZyGZAq4csMMnIRgue1rpecbxRshJ glPw== Wed, 21 Aug 2013 18:54:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.187 (bda-74-82-80-176.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id uz16sm14828932obc.5.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 21 Aug 2013 18:54:28 -0700 (PDT) Sensitivity: Normal To: "triumph friends" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 01:54:27 +0000 Subject: [Fot] The Glorious Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Well its official. I have depleted all my funds. Maxed out my credit cards, and just have only the final prep to do on the FGR cars for the Kastner Cup. For a lowly self employed Triumph guru (well maybe not yet) like myself... I'd say everything is golden... Or bronze at the very least. With just a few more parts to buy, its time to scrap some precious metal... That's where the $ will come from tomorrow for my new oil cooler. I took the last few weeks off work to move my family into a new home. (and my mounds of GT6 what-nots into a pretty nice little garage set-up) Juggling the 3 balls of family, work and racing... in my budget, (true, I only have 2 balls) is A loosing proposition. I keep telling myself that suffering builds character (that's what my Mom always used to say.) I laugh at the folks that say they don't have the time to help out with race planning/ organisational duties within my club. Because neither do I. But I just keep my eye on the prize... One of Snook's dream car trophies.... The Glorious Kastner Cup. Ahh, those simple minded victories seem so sweet. The Kastner Cup, now coated in over a decade of prestige, is within thy grasp. Come one, come all. Reach for it. We are all challenged in different ways... one way or another. We all have the never ending Triumph challenge in front of us... It's only a matter of time before the 2013 winner will be cupped. The glory, the spirit, the car to win.... The ultimate prize...THE KASTNER CUP! Who? The roads lead to Road America, where the score will be settled and a Triumph champion will drink from his cup. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 21 19:55:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF23040527 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 19:55:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f169.google.com (mail-ob0-f169.google.com [209.85.214.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E21403E9 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 19:54:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f169.google.com with SMTP id wc20so2464765obb.0 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 18:54:39 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date:content-type :mime-version; bh=fu04ZWfP2LJo5X4HV3xiI4LqGAaqPxSma7mo82P3sLw=; b=fQ+GilUUJRkQIFN95YATIK3WDDgZWVJN+HjUQp5sDX3gS8O/30K2uUFSuCMzMHqDye b19llg5hCvgiVOq20JNItvJw237pCEySh68/nGk7oz6laedCOnzR0IEw7ggV0FXCDEl8 zh6EyWnT20zgFwETspn2y7p0x6aye+alQ+kB3b0Hy9qyZdaOxFiA1htPTJDdveMh4pRu X99EYdz2bQdgmGdmdj2d/zWtGbzrWfTnPa0bO1nfjvqtdkcdS11tjgsSPQZMJKoypim/ E7BbAChoMCeg4iLnGQ6KDiRHQyTncRNtX39fuAtSMW9q2TvgPfEM+rudke5siUmEgVxi u+Dg== xt2mr11317297oeb.65.1377136479269; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 18:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.187 (bda-74-82-80-176.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id a18sm14825285obf.7.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 21 Aug 2013 18:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Sensitivity: Normal To: "triumph friends" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 01:54:27 +0000 Subject: [Fot] The Glorious Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Well its official. I have depleted all my funds. Maxed out my credit cards, and just have only the final prep to do on the FGR cars for the Kastner Cup. For a lowly self employed Triumph guru (well maybe not yet) like myself... I'd say everything is golden... Or bronze at the very least. With just a few more parts to buy, its time to scrap some precious metal... That's where the $ will come from tomorrow for my new oil cooler. I took the last few weeks off work to move my family into a new home. (and my mounds of GT6 what-nots into a pretty nice little garage set-up) Juggling the 3 balls of family, work and racing... in my budget, (true, I only have 2 balls) is A loosing proposition. I keep telling myself that suffering builds character (that's what my Mom always used to say.) I laugh at the folks that say they don't have the time to help out with race planning/ organisational duties within my club. Because neither do I. But I just keep my eye on the prize... One of Snook's dream car trophies.... The Glorious Kastner Cup. Ahh, those simple minded victories seem so sweet. The Kastner Cup, now coated in over a decade of prestige, is within thy grasp. Come one, come all. Reach for it. We are all challenged in different ways... one way or another. We all have the never ending Triumph challenge in front of us... It's only a matter of time before the 2013 winner will be cupped. The glory, the spirit, the car to win.... The ultimate prize...THE KASTNER CUP! Who? The roads lead to Road America, where the score will be settled and a Triumph champion will drink from his cup. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 21 20:19:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92CD340511 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 20:19:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d08.mx.aol.com (omr-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.207]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF72403E0 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 20:19:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.65]) by omr-d08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id DB9557000009D; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 22:19:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (233.sub-70-193-8.myvzw.com [70.193.8.233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 9DD7AE00008F; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 22:19:09 -0400 (EDT) References: <1377115738.54134.YahooMailNeo@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1377134174.81027.YahooMailNeo@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> From: Jack Mc Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 22:19:10 -0400 To: sherry robyn x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377137949; bh=amchZunQMAnKHZaAzHXXUGfYjxcM5GGl7kkylac7nvQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=PxgaoC8NZd4kv7CY7V2nj1j0P/T/GldkDFuKLFcXJz7rDww9feAFSqIHOKsDzuxBN sOpza8J0U2aPS0B9hiy/6rvBT+xkyIeSgzy9QK6y71BDa50yfnbzQcct0nMyYS/XGb cJYrq06fEqfoZUmlcy0ayMJf18ftOjaAXSq6Co1Q= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29415215751d044e Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Video from Charlotte Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ah...you realize this was an SCCA event, right? There were NO paying spectators. SCCA events are all about what the racers want to race - it has nothing whatever to do with spectators - and you would have been hard pressed to find a single real NASCAR fan all weekend Still, I lament the field composition as much as you do. There were only 2 E Prod cars in the field - 40 years ago, most of the cars might have been British - Far less these days. Cheers, Jack Mc Sent from my iPad On Aug 21, 2013, at 9:16 PM, sherry robyn wrote: > Nice video but I hate the current trend of sports car racing in the USA. It's > like the bulk of American motor sport spectators are so shallow that they can > only keep up with cars that look like something in their driveway that > are going around in circles. Yes, I realize that there is plenty of action in > the infield and that turn one off the bank is tough but I don't like appeasing > these spectators that believe all auto racing is some form or another of > NASCAR. Jim > > > ________________________________ > From: Mike Munson > > To: "fot@autox.team.net" > Sent: > Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:08 PM > Subject: [Fot] Video from Charlotte > While we are sharing videos, heres one from my race at Charlotte this past > weekend. > You can also see fellow FOTer Joe Downer (Chumpcar Tr6) in a black > Midget. > > > > > > http://youtu.be/vJvtUaXk-u0 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sherryjimmy6116@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/limeyv8@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 21 22:42:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56FA40449 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 22:42:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm49-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm49-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C30A4003A for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 22:36:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.172] by nm49.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2013 04:36:14 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.226] by tm18.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2013 04:36:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1035.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2013 04:36:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 24019 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Aug 2013 04:36:14 -0000 s=s1024; t=1377146174; bh=3W3/MYX76/WL4wo7i/QKJ4aUe378Io+rU4hWAfbb9Wk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IAbMYDcK2zSolTI5YLYkM6BzzQTmyo10/tpQ1NNfueIiuIS1piR4XvdJQ9hbEpXxztNgfBK/TVsKLLQR0fBV8b/bGNwu2g9Q+aFYJ8BqqiG6383w//mkDo3z5i0t2mYBk63OiC6xdjtogkowsJPoHY6zHO2j9erIBRNehsa9qx0= s=s1024; d=ymail.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=H37l43Q+kMIiB2rt2nam9Hz1IlGb0vsIABlkyoPOIw9Gg8MyPnTpdEgXICBNQSOGvm6w5O2iR52pZvH3o4G0dqwtI43y5pqYNF9YQ8iEWnzt0U+1lfzLByRYHrVmINF9ET68iN+/aKml6n9ar1Mww09delVGbRkZIFdXbHWCaxw=; .d3zYZdX4OLEReekuEhmsqbu_ydYXy0BirXn1p9JrGkSK26eoCuGuwLO6592 Lj4L9qwPq5gEgDXu3EagnWAe6L9j0z.5w1sUuv29wwPtHSIVxiyi5aRekKkf nOByygROu6HkLH0pBRVsev9MRkz4GcTZuYd3U6v6i4kg_sMpqv7B5tKiJVHc gWXkcZ9RufRipDivtxnc0ZAzsEYPS60Xz6fG13Xsy5SOTeIP4Kt.kLX55IrD dGex0IG0RwQDKk6rqJm_dft6DoJDbHAeQmm4ratEs_vASX0RVSb4erbnvhGM pgKXbSOrK44FORVP46RCDc695_uwgA3R1ZSt3IMDzOlrha9uNqQfy91VnFVt Gn2Mrra3j_cuJluEeJDVHOwKZQBKe6ZsJ8XV4gjM7movn00JgyYRWl891Z9F kQDWdbX2aYRzOIvNuMz7wZ0uwQfGGGmBldbTuu0LrcXb8fghWfwk6dfTaM_C xO9Z5zWYS72YMBf0g0xKzeMSb5DzPf1r87BPdixnVm_54JZ6kDGu6aNGmnJb SmQYUqAgRAXgahVWa.6dQ4JvRFblAkDuXG7P1Rg-- Received: from [173.19.243.239] by web161803.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 21:36:14 PDT SSBoYXZlIGZpbGxlZCB0aGUgcm9vbXMgYXQgT3N0aG9mZnMgdGhhdCBJIHBvc3RlZCBlYXJsaWVyLiBMb29raW5nIGZvcndhcmQgdG8gdGhlIHdlZWtlbmQhClJ1c3MgV2VzdGZhbGwBMAEBAQE- Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 21:36:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Russell Westfall To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Rooms at Osthoffs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have filled the rooms at Osthoffs that I posted earlier. Looking forward to the weekend! Russ Westfall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 21 22:59:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8FB44041B for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 22:59:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C72D240078 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 22:51:10 -0600 (MDT) a=GY3qpzaqjAnTJxGPJo7Cpg==:17 a=t2QnnntYVAkA:10 a=PCyuN_hFMcQA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=Anw3BA9yTFQA:10 a=JAralIE_AAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=PjNXczxJs41xOxbdE2MA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Gx2Z1c8jvZgA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=GY3qpzaqjAnTJxGPJo7Cpg==:117 Received: from [76.84.97.85] ([76.84.97.85:4061] helo=guinanhp) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 16/90-02415-9B895125; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 04:51:05 +0000 From: "Joe Guinan" To: References: Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 23:52:29 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac6e3jzIwOfoeGrBTdWBoj3IM+LvTgAE8LCQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] Nice Spitfire vIntage race car package available Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've had to pull the plug on my purchase of this car, trailer, and spares package. Thought I should help the owner spread the word of its availability. It's a beauty, well and sensibly built, nicely finished, very presentable and reliable. If I could have made the finances work, I'd be the owner in about two weeks. Fate intervened, and I'll have to redouble work on the ex-SCCA car to have it ready for spring Driver's Training. The car is in the Boulder, CO. area. Photos of the entire package can be seen on FLICKR at; http://www.flickr.com/photos/99588681@N02/sets I can answer some questions, but am certainly not an authority on this car. The owners are Steve and Renee Von Roenn and can be reached via email at wolf776gang@comcast.net See you at Road America... Joe Guinan Fremont, NE _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 22 00:49:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3516E40401 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 00:49:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.135]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332DE4006F for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 00:38:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.173] by nm17.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2013 06:38:39 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.250] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2013 06:38:39 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1021.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2013 06:38:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 68181 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Aug 2013 06:38:39 -0000 s=s1024; t=1377153519; bh=rPwFRfkjRC7VtaEiGTF6icGNDQK7/z8GvRmHs/l0rg0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bzlrYstO3yWn+Y2m7GLkTsQjV8d+zduCqd9inLBJvw07XknjS8CY81dTc//pNJvZhf5b3z87FD2nntL7d7T7HOpKK2PppCFWoHNOGGxQHE55zNE8oZXXsMB7jJ5O8HSCpJCCjqvz6EbofKwtQqmVRExP0EjTWa4sFjurPDzigqw= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XmixDe3RUq9oyTu8GvuXhn03KR1g3emQnRwVzFFzrV1BGuXLDOeo1CTbh00pdlpeALao1bnkxBHgWrOGAoldnbplie+vVAigi0PB6MrNNa/3Z4R2z6mE0dI3IUr7V/u9U1vgn0shmP60ox8bOp5qGqpsbzTEpXbhIkEDMw/je/o=; c9DW1aFyZt0tKAUJ3tnu3pdnjPeIh7ZtisvpFPFWVlg3udlXTgGpFMhYrgN_ p5gsoUWFd3OaAt9EnJtUoKSUzAf3bKCiBjV2FMAIDUSzTMrw_NAzfK.jBFTK EODnncPSBpH9b36LHLpB.pEPLOGMmJqiQCDfzuSwHoNv2CdahUFJJOWhiYC7 G2eEr6UMeqBkcpQUJQ5dKYCVDUjLeAlXNnYDzzupVTAOI5DltD6Aiq5liUoA mX2PGnpvz12oYgL2Hm9vbpbKqZ4eNI0Bfxy4coizhkmKFlq3R6toLeHsHyZr tz0ApMSS16fv9qOShBz5qq2uzh9BcjvSr21O0SQ1v47SYbh1e6N0uakK3.VU UinpBSbginUF412M7LjGioNaH2dsx1xWazG3tz_W5pQUISFgg7bUaUlVxnFw _Ayotw6Vhg9MdnFp7HSvzknItMWtRVna.uI4S8BpHMTxIGfJexu.JC0ZwymF fg6eLQu7Db2ZK4V4D5XeqslPFCJfr9RC2ZspfeGL.gSfkVHt1uJ2_dDStze6 Zr5N1pri3RHvO2yhZPVJ_.pir8Z90hBTDNZ8ehxpkf1tETt1M3tpshLFWLG8 .Ogw33mqWRlqQpy5.AY7KDLJgKqcAt1Stn2Rw0f49KqYlYx13pFLPSfiG0sr Ua04- Received: from [99.60.75.95] by web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 23:38:39 PDT SSByZWFsbHkgd2Fzbid0IGtub2NraW5nIHRoaXMgcGFydGljdWxhciBldmVudCBpbiBDaGFybG90dGUuIMKgSSBoYXZlIGp1c3Qgc2VlbiB0aGlzIHRyZW5kIGNvbWluZyBmb3IgYSB3aGlsZSBub3cgYW5kIGp1c3QgZ290IHRocm91Z2ggd2F0Y2hpbmcgdGhlIGxhc3QgR3JhbmQgQW0gZXZlbnQgb24gVFYgdGhhdCB3YXMgaGVsZCBpbiBLYW5zYXMgYXQgYW4gb3ZhbCB0cmFjayB1c2luZyB0aGUgaW5maWVsZC7CoCBJIGJlbGlldmXCoHRoYXQgdGhlwqBmb2xrcyB0aGF0IHJ1biB0aGUgcmFjZSBzZXJpZXMgYXIBMAEBAQE- References: <1377115738.54134.YahooMailNeo@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1377134174.81027.YahooMailNeo@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 23:38:39 -0700 (PDT) From: sherry robyn To: Jack Mc Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Video from Charlotte Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I really wasn't knocking this particular event in Charlotte. I have just seen this trend coming for a while now and just got through watching the last Grand Am event on TV that was held in Kansas at an oval track using the infield. I believe that the folks that run the race series are saying that they need to go where the fans are and where the money is. On top of that, Formula One spends its whole time trying to convince American motorsports fans that Formula One is not boring. If the fan base is that fickle, then let them go watch NASCAR. Jim ________________________________ From: Jack Mc To: sherry robyn Cc: Mike Munson ; "fot@autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Video from Charlotte Ah...you realize this was an SCCA event, right? There were NO paying spectators. SCCA events are all about what the racers want to race - it has nothing whatever to do with spectators - and you would have been hard pressed to find a single real NASCAR fan all weekend Still, I lament the field composition as much as you do. There were only 2 E Prod cars in the field - 40 years ago, most of the cars might have been British - Far less these days. Cheers, Jack Mc Sent from my iPad On Aug 21, 2013, at 9:16 PM, sherry robyn wrote: > Nice video but I hate the current trend of sports car racing in the USA. It's > like the bulk of American motor sport spectators are so shallow that they can > only keep up with cars that look like something in their driveway that > are going around in circles. Yes, I realize that there is plenty of action in > the infield and that turn one off the bank is tough but I don't like appeasing > these spectators that believe all auto racing is some form or another of > NASCAR. Jim > > > ________________________________ > From: Mike Munson > > To: "fot@autox.team.net" > Sent: > Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:08 PM > Subject: [Fot] Video from Charlotte > While we are sharing videos, heres one from my race at Charlotte this past > weekend. > You can also see fellow FOTer Joe Downer (Chumpcar Tr6) in a black > Midget. > > > > > > http://youtu.be/vJvtUaXk-u0 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sherryjimmy6116@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 22 06:44:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C66D14041D for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 06:44:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail175c2.megamailservers.com (mail175c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74046403DD for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 06:43:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.254.50.174] (6.sub-174-254-114.myvzw.com [174.254.114.6]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail175c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r7MChpid023838 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 22 Aug 2013 08:43:53 -0400 References: <1377115738.54134.YahooMailNeo@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1377134174.81027.YahooMailNeo@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1377153519.53230.YahooMailNeo@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> From: John Hasty Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 08:43:49 -0400 To: sherry robyn a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=OlkyCwsGD7oQ0eJjmUdGdQ==:17 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=jJrOw3FHAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=nwPU-oKS-mNBKKIlbQYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=FU4QsWcZpzsA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=OlkyCwsGD7oQ0eJjmUdGdQ==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Video from Charlotte Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Jim. Did you consider the NASCAR race @ Mid Ohio boring? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 22, 2013, at 2:38 AM, sherry robyn wrote: > I really wasn't knocking this particular event in Charlotte. I have just seen > this trend coming for a while now and just got through watching the last Grand > Am event on TV that was held in Kansas at an oval track using the infield. I > believe that the folks that run the race series are saying that they need to > go where the fans are and where the money is. On top of that, Formula One > spends its whole time trying to convince American motorsports fans that > Formula One is not boring. If the fan base is that fickle, then let them go > watch NASCAR. Jim > > > ________________________________ > From: Jack Mc > > To: sherry robyn > Cc: Mike Munson > ; "fot@autox.team.net" > Sent: > Wednesday, August 21, 2013 7:19 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Video from Charlotte > Ah...you realize this was an SCCA event, right? There were NO paying > spectators. SCCA events are all about what the racers want to race - it has > nothing whatever to do with spectators - and you would have been hard pressed > to find a single real NASCAR fan all weekend > > Still, I lament the field > composition as much as you do. There were only 2 E Prod cars in the field - 40 > years ago, most of the cars might have been British - Far less these days. > Cheers, > Jack Mc > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 21, 2013, at 9:16 PM, sherry robyn > wrote: > >> Nice video but I hate the current trend of > sports car racing in the USA. It's >> like the bulk of American motor sport > spectators are so shallow that they can >> only keep up with cars that look > like something in their driveway that >> are going around in circles. Yes, I > realize that there is plenty of action in >> the infield and that turn one off > the bank is tough but I don't like appeasing >> these spectators that believe > all auto racing is some form or another of >> NASCAR. Jim >> >> >> > ________________________________ >> From: Mike Munson >> >> > To: "fot@autox.team.net" >> Sent: >> Wednesday, August 21, > 2013 1:08 PM >> Subject: [Fot] Video from Charlotte >> While we are sharing > videos, heres one from my race at Charlotte this past >> weekend. >> You can > also see fellow FOTer Joe Downer (Chumpcar Tr6) in a black >> Midget. >> >> >> >> >> >> http://youtu.be/vJvtUaXk-u0 >> > _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> > http://www.fot-racing.com/ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Archive: >> http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sherryjimmy6116@att.net >> > _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> > http://www.fot-racing.com/ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/limeyv8@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 22 07:28:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2E140437 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 07:28:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com (omr-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5497E403BA for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 07:27:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.66]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8615C700E198B; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 09:27:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (233.sub-70-193-8.myvzw.com [70.193.8.233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 25C65E000097; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 09:27:02 -0400 (EDT) References: <1377115738.54134.YahooMailNeo@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1377134174.81027.YahooMailNeo@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1377153519.53230.YahooMailNeo@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> From: Jack Mc Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 09:27:01 -0400 To: sherry robyn x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377178022; bh=kdZlgec8HGY58O5Lay5VKP3rSLG3cwYklSPsU5qwDAc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=dN+RLWk2OdgrbQMzVJ7Z12eCDaYyVOAhx2KCN8e4NXUTsnLDbSlIGgcOv7kD3jU2F RXZimzMQ9rWGLDTxY+d4urNa9mi79GliVc/nuf8CxjRA5wJfmGwLvPuyp5xefVS/l9 1noDwzd2RdWXCP8MGrX0cwl1suGfm2SawsVIpyTg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2942521611a600fc Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Video from Charlotte Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wow - what have I missed? I haven't noticed F1 spending ANY time trying to convince American fans of ANYTHING Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2013, at 2:38 AM, sherry robyn wrote: > I really wasn't knocking this particular event in Charlotte. I have just seen this trend coming for a while now and just got through watching the last Grand Am event on TV that was held in Kansas at an oval track using the infield. I believe that the folks that run the race series are saying that they need to go where the fans are and where the money is. On top of that, Formula One spends its whole time trying to convince American motorsports fans that Formula One is not boring. If the fan base is that fickle, then let them go watch NASCAR. Jim > > From: Jack Mc > To: sherry robyn > Cc: Mike Munson ; "fot@autox.team.net" > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 7:19 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Video from Charlotte > > Ah...you realize this was an SCCA event, right? There were NO paying spectators. SCCA events are all about what the racers want to race - it has nothing whatever to do with spectators - and you would have been hard pressed to find a single real NASCAR fan all weekend > > Still, I lament the field composition as much as you do. There were only 2 E Prod cars in the field - 40 years ago, most of the cars might have been British - Far less these days. > > Cheers, > Jack Mc > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 21, 2013, at 9:16 PM, sherry robyn wrote: > > > Nice video but I hate the current trend of sports car racing in the USA. It's > > like the bulk of American motor sport spectators are so shallow that they can > > only keep up with cars that look like something in their driveway that > > are going around in circles. Yes, I realize that there is plenty of action in > > the infield and that turn one off the bank is tough but I don't like appeasing > > these spectators that believe all auto racing is some form or another of > > NASCAR. Jim > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Mike Munson > > > > To: "fot@autox.team.net" > > Sent: > > Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:08 PM > > Subject: [Fot] Video from Charlotte > > While we are sharing videos, heres one from my race at Charlotte this past > > weekend. > > You can also see fellow FOTer Joe Downer (Chumpcar Tr6) in a black > > Midget. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://youtu.be/vJvtUaXk-u0 > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: > > http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sherryjimmy6116@att.net > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/limeyv8@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 22 10:10:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3569C4051F for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 10:10:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm18-vm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm18-vm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22A0440410 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 10:09:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.168] by nm18.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2013 16:09:39 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.163] by tm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2013 16:09:39 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1029.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2013 16:09:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 38874 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Aug 2013 16:09:39 -0000 s=s1024; t=1377187779; bh=WRNIg+YRAX+3tGEDKH6kn9TFfBHwNR7/rXlG22Olarw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YtJfuQiYAZvrsJLHZ3KLNDpyJD5/2kW5XgqBxqZipVGJfN+A86PjqZqloQqTlbgt5kBzSXlsVUcXIZHSsqFolqRFtyR6WKSGZlG9p+vgYO1uGOvXESs8JSqSpygUi8H4PBGEtHmuSqVkVEkJpxNZ8wfuerKJ5Ic0egTfr74juAY= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FV0na5V5fChtxn0N/c2Usilisi9ZkGfadfFav4rQL/2E8BIpmcs9mi3bsGMGzzwbT49t3SPesXllA1S44w3C8g2CeYdw4FULDfJdNZAH9nym7o91Qxu53e3JDXEBRwES6QA5PFnCsM8dp1x14MMQE0MGxEt4cnwUDi/FH9+1d0Y=; 86ELT82m35XGZ6TbCcshi7uMiAyqNXWVkVwzIs0zFRP372WGFTOWgrawRyjL Pfvc_7AGts76IwQQTFmF8lRhBpbvnyPAu3JstNL9ibPvxWk_t4_O7KgOE24e .mxAEVVudtTLU7L_u.9eSPGWBupDc.g5Uz_93JBR3QroMBPK94D0rgxVYZ8B ZK_9V60_LxDyDMLGM4htoujgqOTVmjT6JB04XY3XTPGk91pIfhTIJ5FLTczh hb56e.lKfIdh.yKI3bAGmBTjJEQYYGwwowD2pnIPfhg7XaaxA8n_INOEyA6F 0cqnROf0Q37mTg.y2gpP5m4SWFa1S5HYo1ZKr9SbCa5BI9eeL4PcgtiYR75v IVqsYisX.9Z05zjTlDVRMMHknBTQCPtEnrW3Ocb8Vjq9qcb.kYCA0v4D32j1 hk6zP50e.S8O8Z9z35N4m6CRC.2Rsov4nC7PqeUzoNJcNAROyvrF38_ZaEqX 3.UJWlsqGKLJ49WsUIYO7kWw5epoAlxXQUl78kUFvwqZPCHXf7gabb.6hme9 HBD_hn2FEAwR9K2b3msdsgkXFiEe5TMfDKT9nFO5TZ7tR4y1M8r8CMXoZmrg hp2CN92yoaBs.QVunapBeKxSapNCfwR9OLR9vI1i4wvUy Received: from [99.60.75.95] by web184802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 09:09:39 PDT VGhhdCdzIHdoYXQgRFJTLCBFUlMsIGFuZCB0aXJlIGRlZ3JhZGF0aW9uIGlzIHN1cHBvc2VkIHRvIGJlIGFsbCBhYm91dCwgIm1ha2luZyB0aGUgc3BvcnQgbGVzcyBib3JpbmcuIsKgIEl0J3MgYmVlbiBvbiB0aGUgY29tbWVudGFyeSBmb3IgdGhlIHBhc3QgdHdvIHllYXJzLsKgIEppbcKgCiAKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCiBGcm9tOiBKYWNrIE1jIDxMaW1leVY4QGFvbC5jb20.ClRvOiBzaGVycnkgcm9ieW4gPHNoZXJyeWppbW15NjExNkBhdHQubmV0PiAKQ2M6IE1pa2UgTXUBMAEBAQE- References: <1377115738.54134.YahooMailNeo@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1377134174.81027.YahooMailNeo@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1377153519.53230.YahooMailNeo@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <435978CE-7871-4C94-93A2-03B030B50300@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 09:09:39 -0700 (PDT) From: sherry robyn To: Jack Mc Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Video from Charlotte Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That's what DRS, ERS, and tire degradation is supposed to be all about, "making the sport less boring." It's been on the commentary for the past two years. Jim ________________________________ From: Jack Mc To: sherry robyn Cc: Mike Munson ; "fot@autox.team.net" Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 6:27 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Video from Charlotte Wow - what have I missed? I haven't noticed F1 spending ANY time trying to convince American fans of ANYTHING Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2013, at 2:38 AM, sherry robyn wrote: I really wasn't knocking this particular event in Charlotte. I have just seen this trend coming for a while now and just got through watching the last Grand Am event on TV that was held in Kansas at an oval track using the infield. I believe that the folks that run the race series are saying that they need to go where the fans are and where the money is. On top of that, Formula One spends its whole time trying to convince American motorsports fans that Formula One is not boring. If the fan base is that fickle, then let them go watch NASCAR. Jim > > > >________________________________ > From: Jack Mc >To: sherry robyn >Cc: Mike Munson ; "fot@autox.team.net" >Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 7:19 PM >Subject: Re: [Fot] Video from Charlotte > > >Ah...you realize this was an SCCA event, right? There were NO paying spectators. SCCA events are all about what the racers want to race - it has nothing whatever to do with spectators - and you would have been hard pressed to find a single real NASCAR fan all weekend > >Still, I lament the field composition as much as you do. There were only 2 E Prod cars in the field - 40 years ago, most of the cars might have been British - Far less these days. > >Cheers, >Jack Mc > >Sent from my iPad > >On Aug 21, 2013, at 9:16 PM, sherry robyn wrote: > >> Nice video but I hate the current trend of sports car racing in the USA. It's >> like the bulk of American motor sport spectators are so shallow that they can >> only keep up with cars that look like something in their driveway that >> are going around in circles. Yes, I realize that there is plenty of action in >> the infield and that turn one off the bank is tough but I don't like appeasing >> these spectators that believe all auto racing is some form or another of >> NASCAR. Jim >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Mike Munson >> >> To: "fot@autox.team.net" >> Sent: >> Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:08 PM >> Subject: [Fot] Video from Charlotte >> While we are sharing videos, heres one from my race at Charlotte this past >> weekend. >> You can also see fellow FOTer Joe Downer (Chumpcar Tr6) in a black >> Midget. >> >> >> >> >> >> http://youtu.be/vJvtUaXk-u0 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> http://www.fot-racing.com/ >> >> Donate: >> Archive: >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sherryjimmy6116@att.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com/ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 22 10:20:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F3E40437 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 10:20:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84684003A for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 10:14:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b%11]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:14:57 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: "fot@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: 4.55 rear end gear? Thread-Index: Ac6fUr3XLavzsr92QFGR4J99SmAAyg== Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 16:14:56 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Subject: [Fot] 4.55 rear end gear? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone have a 4.55 ring and pinion that they'd be willing to sell? For Spitfire/GT6/Herald/Vitesse. Scott B. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 22 11:08:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B744052D for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:08:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.56]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0743740415 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:08:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id FsWq1m0010x6nqcA6t8LaK; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 17:08:20 +0000 Received: from [10.218.208.58] ([166.147.82.157]) by omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Ft5m1m00q3PfcHi8Yt5tqX; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 17:06:15 +0000 References: <1377115738.54134.YahooMailNeo@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1377134174.81027.YahooMailNeo@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1377153519.53230.YahooMailNeo@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <435978CE-7871-4C94-93A2-03B030B50300@aol.com> <1377187779.31029.YahooMailNeo@web184802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> From: Jim Gray Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:05:44 -0600 To: sherry robyn s=q20121106; t=1377191300; bh=R9tZ8I8MYE0RQGj4n9i9EImHQmejMJGsFsGhYOmOg8c=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=cgIjDBcL/uWgyVVnC99Z6dJXdjufLBTeUNU2FULvJFiYXistS3PjXfrXLonRa65CF FeywM+5kNzqvPSCt3qFDPUJxNORwYvOBSId0lHO7kXEkE5d6J43wO0C5M8P3B2Djlv a25GTauxEY2ZsAHxvYquV7zZLW3TZ3T0DCUzpMygsdxgakPfBtOOzpMD/eOw4pwFna IR/hhgzuV6Lo0C9lOw5eZGIZc7YXyY7+xpRnscDZS4co5kJgqS/3b1OJq2za72Btnb qPmzHhdFKsiyqGUFw2fllWuEz21ugaeW6hWwH6y0uWJGWR5vlVl70XJqHgjdJTCxDf jLHNb1imnFZtw== Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Video from Charlotte Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm a diehard F1 fan and the racing in the last two years has been great. Last year I think we had seven different winners in in the first seven races? I agree that with Drs, KERS, and engineered tire degradation the rules seem somewhat contrived but it works. The problem with a lot of American race fans is they are lazy and want to watch the entire race from a cushioned seat and 20 feet from a bathroom and a beer stand..... This is part of the reason road racing has lost so many fans. You might actually have to get out of your seat and walk a bit to see the whole race. Just my opinion. Jim g Sent from my iPhone On Aug 22, 2013, at 10:09 AM, sherry robyn wrote: > That's what DRS, ERS, and tire degradation is supposed to be all about, > "making the sport less boring." It's been on the commentary for the past two > years. Jim > > > ________________________________ > From: Jack Mc > > To: sherry robyn > Cc: Mike Munson > ; "fot@autox.team.net" > Sent: > Thursday, August 22, 2013 6:27 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Video from Charlotte > Wow - what have I missed? I haven't noticed F1 spending ANY time trying to > convince American fans of ANYTHING > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 22, 2013, at > 2:38 AM, sherry robyn wrote: > > > I really wasn't > knocking this particular event in Charlotte. I have just seen this trend > coming for a while now and just got through watching the last Grand Am event > on TV that was held in Kansas at an oval track using the infield. I > believe that the folks that run the race series are saying that they need to > go where the fans are and where the money is. On top of that, Formula One > spends its whole time trying to convince American motorsports fans that > Formula One is not boring. If the fan base is that fickle, then let them go > watch NASCAR. Jim >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Jack Mc > >> To: sherry robyn >> Cc: Mike > Munson ; "fot@autox.team.net" >> Sent: > Wednesday, August 21, 2013 7:19 PM >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Video from Charlotte >> >> >> Ah...you realize this was an SCCA event, right? There were NO paying > spectators. SCCA events are all about what the racers want to race - it has > nothing whatever to do with spectators - and you would have been hard pressed > to > find a single real NASCAR fan all weekend >> >> Still, I lament the field > composition as much as you do. There were only 2 E Prod cars in the field - 40 > years ago, most of the cars might have been British - Far less these days. >> >> Cheers, >> Jack Mc >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Aug 21, 2013, at 9:16 PM, sherry > robyn wrote: >> >>> Nice video but I hate the current > trend of sports car racing in the USA. It's >>> like the bulk of American > motor sport spectators are so shallow that they can >>> only keep up with cars > that look like something in their driveway that >>> are going around in > circles. Yes, I realize that there is plenty of action in >>> the infield and > that turn one off the bank is tough but I don't like appeasing >>> these > spectators that believe all auto racing is some form or > another of > NASCAR. Jim >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Mike Munson >>> >>> To: "fot@autox.team.net" > Sent: >>> Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:08 PM >>> Subject: [Fot] Video from > Charlotte >>> While we are sharing videos, heres one from my race at Charlotte > this past >>> weekend. >>> You can also see fellow FOTer Joe Downer (Chumpcar > Tr6) in a black >>> Midget. > http://youtu.be/vJvtUaXk-u0 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> http://www.fot-racing.com/ >>> >>> Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: >>> http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sherryjimmy6116@att.net > _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com/ >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/limeyv8@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 22 11:56:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2234052F for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:56:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm44-vm9.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm44-vm9.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.87.214]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F0A4041B for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:56:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.137.12.175] by nm44.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2013 17:56:35 -0000 Received: from [208.71.42.194] by tm14.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2013 17:56:35 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2013 17:56:35 -0000 s=s1024; t=1377194195; bh=iIHIXGq6fAaiQhkH+rc+yrvVswJh2/DdLHAeBn5Z+c4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=NHw3ZardJ5mTu8YM1Q6tCUHPKWios4RAx43Bon5Grjjqg5k2QPwdnpwWG9+yyII8Qa1rYM92pz8wAo9+jbd54FAMOPKWcTEaN8yQgVpTjvjOo0bJKwF+V0V78n9Xop6gsmRjCqXFjxW43f/Nu2pzda6SOPMNHCXlZ3Hfhdkr6S0= q.r05j0Bj0jJo3H63bHJQGb8_itNcu6OOBTfyByuC305PjZ_ORYVrn2iL7nR DxDQl89PU88BhJ1emiXxD98N2ZZ.re6ynXn6qlL34f0UGc3Fx_uXukiBhNDl z_bCxKnUyxUsXfUuPO2l_3pdCXoWoLCUfmlS6r95_0H4AvL3UZvVt9Whz0bo oerkh.JoHKQZdNrh3mrDo76qTUb0lOuXEHdY31fH0osBRNONa23FfrADi.0g 0WWEYcI.dpEIv37cESY2haYKJqju_iaTbcKPoduYneMjdVSiisI5s6vMXfza xsVoH_F0bZQmEuklsxP1R71jk0pqQpst1T263tW1q03_EbD3CBpJcFyXGSSK QMAIZDuLGUyvorKiS_OZwhYy.8yqM8frke13PSQGOWtuGwjlYshsBk449Nky MGQPJhF6VW6w2KViPFMGbG1lVfYu32pg4.XYZlXFVr22npGkBtvQssEpO449 fnaOIyfLjv_LxnLYfM8DiaX0Kx5RNQwf7PcLBrqUG3Pas8aswjr77ArUdWzr YhQgrHb3kfHixif8qwgWL4kS7Satms_kcxpIM2cf8AE_uWR63CjAvddIXsnx lldyqjeAqiyexOaKtNWGQpr.NZXhFHleZzCZuDBEWrI5lLlR3i8Prnw_bSZq vL1R35n17E_BW0EtGojaRYvI- with ) by smtp205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2013 10:56:35 -0700 PDT References: <004001ce9ef3$682cefa0$3886cee0$@rr.com> From: "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:56:34 -0600 To: Joe Guinan Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Nice Spitfire vIntage race car package available Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It is a beautiful car and well sorted. Renee races the car and her husband is her pit crew. Great folks and a great car.. Ty Sent from my iPad (Please excuse any errors or typos) On Aug 21, 2013, at 10:52 PM, "Joe Guinan" wrote: > I've had to pull the plug on my purchase of this car, trailer, and spares > package. Thought I should help the owner spread the word of its > availability. It's a beauty, well and sensibly built, nicely finished, very > presentable and reliable. If I could have made the finances work, I'd be > the owner in about two weeks. Fate intervened, and I'll have to redouble > work on the ex-SCCA car to have it ready for spring Driver's Training. > > The car is in the Boulder, CO. area. Photos of the entire package can be > seen on FLICKR at; > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/99588681@N02/sets > > I can answer some questions, but am certainly not an authority on this car. > The owners are Steve and Renee Von Roenn and can be reached via email at > wolf776gang@comcast.net > > See you at Road America... > > Joe Guinan > Fremont, NE > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tylerpthompson@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 22 19:42:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AF1E4051B for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 19:42:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B144041C for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 19:41:11 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=aw0SPasWSR4d9bpw2bdCdg==:17 a=2Ezvq-bICIYA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=_CYNOlYdBBIA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=jJrOw3FHAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=PyJl1DFcfQRKpCbzJdgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=FU4QsWcZpzsA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=aw0SPasWSR4d9bpw2bdCdg==:117 Received: from [166.147.64.71] ([166.147.64.71:39488] helo=[10.83.114.192]) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id F9/77-02184-6BDB6125; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 01:41:11 +0000 References: <1377115738.54134.YahooMailNeo@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:41:10 -0500 To: Mike Munson Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Video from Charlotte Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Nice drive. On Aug 21, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Mike Munson wrote: > While we are sharing videos, heres one from my race at Charlotte this past > weekend. > You can also see fellow FOTer Joe Downer (Chumpcar Tr6) in a black > Midget. > > > > > > http://youtu.be/vJvtUaXk-u0 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 23 07:31:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4AF427B2 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 07:31:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (isis.mit.edu [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C4D40403 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 07:30:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r7NDUphk025447; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 09:30:51 -0400 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 09:30:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: George Harmuth References: Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Shocks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I was going to say that if a shock breaks, it's either that it bottomed (compression or rebound) or there's a material defect. Simple as that. If you replace the part with the same item, take the time to run the suspension through the full range of motion with the spring removed. THERE SHOULD BE NO BINDING ANYWHERE. Regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 23 09:45:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD1C40E01 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 09:45:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm6-vm3.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm6-vm3.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6012540515 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 09:44:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.163] by nm6.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Aug 2013 15:44:51 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.138] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Aug 2013 15:44:51 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1014.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Aug 2013 15:44:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 11030 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Aug 2013 15:44:51 -0000 s=s1024; t=1377272691; bh=ZgusHrYZUJOO7eDAk7RT/Mv+Lzp4ER1jahBL+OHmZ3c=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=00EpV1nhnQhSSxSmKTV+IbjnGWdIqzlplXEEHk/QrICg+dMaebpK0iRXuyFJ7Qt+uB6oRnQQV0n1q2dbBxnBNBkd5e2i0GXVrbGj+kO+Mv4OEv7ZbX3VBkz4B3m5swdFoECJqvtl3n+BVCbGW6In//sIEwszIruzN5baX4t6VqQ= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FHZoqSU/+BYVkKDPpEqHuuUGzbtnm/2FOEo7UKOaLa+x1t5LV/bAkm2Zej9ol5xvnewDKpv4FUr1/VEFH9D/uYr7UpG6gszbwmCsezQGXUkygG6spANuqjsJIugbSHkrbEKHsxwVUF+ChBN5wWf4mQWJIx2Xtuj1lvOAhJdrcQQ=; LtCX49SzQdBIQ4aoIGobRoEPxboaCF1NZ5ZFcJFEDp.BP28iFuWhhjkAFBY4 EPxCMSMGXlGbvfLqQc0a9y33705_ZX6E9WjvMl0oi0mdGy1vRmsR2qzjxYNQ DYzXEIitMCTWEP4U5Ht8Yq9Olv350UbY_DuDtfByOR8HWDBifvYvnzHje5AA qK3pM4RtP.q.sYmtwuMZ3rUK7twwMqPcJRc06wyOtGp7UxQ59Q5PEhM2JUpT 48CUuI04555RmZpRRthxn_Bm8kM6hZQGuyrVCRWtYr2n1RSyo7eG3nnAvLJm 01M6rRMcNkEVRjRo6LWJ_V6Vz8uPm9qeZ9Z24_D8WFqi11H8QIGygTEPQ9Ow BgiN0alMfhMoagq.0lIF226JiZuX_ez6GFyYf.Jlil_tui9zD4vUoYkQwxmL UuodKYCJyqMzj2YCW4N77.2PWCf5v9NoOZZnmadusv9SJHUVbDyGwz6XDwAc 6H2LE5nBBA1JYbz.6CqZCP1nxEpEDB6LZVYhxzpUEzWmetfMPBI7SZ_M4zXs Zq1kgxPkc2oiGQzquFGdpgVYDMOkVEDTkfbv57_tocVTeoelttRyPo7iDfUG IwNfIyJBQ_.q5MV88pfQ.V2R9CSOy0HYOhoqEPrOgwcdrU3F.s.yekNHhe9Q w8_v1D.xFcJZxQsHQXbY- Received: from [162.198.152.23] by web182203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 08:44:50 PDT SSdtIHN1cGVyIHN0b2tlZCBvbiB0aGUgdmlkZW8gTWlrZSBhbmQgbGlrZWQgaXQgb24geW91ciB5b3V0dWJlIHBvc3QuLi5hd2Vzb21lIHRvIHNlZSBhIFRSNiBjb21lIGFyb3VuZCBzb21lIG90aGVyICdiZXR0ZXIga25vd24nIHJhY2UgY2FycyEgZXhjZWxsZW50IGRyaXZpbmcgYW5kIGV4Y2VsbGVudCBzaGFyZSwgdGhhbmsgeW91Li4uLsKgIEJvYmJ5CgoKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCgoKT24gQXVnIDIxLCAyMDEzLCBhdCAzOjA4IFBNLCBNaWtlIE11bnNvbiA8ZmFzdHRyc0ABMAEBAQE- References: <1377115738.54134.YahooMailNeo@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <7E844BC8-5889-49FF-AB5E-08ADAFA55309@austin.rr.com> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 08:44:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Bobby Whitehead To: Mike Munson , FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Video from Charlotte Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm super stoked on the video Mike and liked it on your youtube post...awesome to see a TR6 come around some other 'better known' race cars! excellent driving and excellent share, thank you.... Bobby ________________________________ On Aug 21, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Mike Munson wrote: > While we are sharing videos, heres one from my race at Charlotte this past > weekend. > You can also see fellow FOTer Joe Downer (Chumpcar Tr6) in a black > Midget. > > > > > > http://youtu.be/vJvtUaXk-u0 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 23 10:38:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD1742739 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 10:38:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail175c2.megamailservers.com (mail175c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF5E40559 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 10:38:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail175c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r7NGcRGQ017833 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:38:33 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:38:26 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6gHzCLn0wXSCDJSaioe4cFHzDNMQ== a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=QNrFtCjix1rIsT5XDWEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=7XqYBDlyXe34llfo:21 a=18l42K8MTVNBEIFd:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: [Fot] Steering Rack Conversion Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone know whether the Moss "Mini Quick Steering Rack", (2.2 turns) part #114-902 will fit/replace the steering rack that is furnished in the original TR3 "Steering Rack Conversion Kit" (2.7 turns) part #667-248? I have researched and found that the original Steering Rack Conversion Kit, which I have, was made by a vendor in the UK using a Mk 1 Mini Cooper S rack which was mfg. in Argintena. When this vendor went out of business, Moss bought the rights to it; but I have not yet been able to get in touch with anyone at Moss who knows if they continued using the same Mk 1 rack in their conversion kit or if their Mini Quick Rack is interchangeable with the one supplied in the original conversion kit. Does anyone have the answer????? John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 23 11:09:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182CC42840 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 11:09:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.196]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21851427E4 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 11:08:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vwm17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (vwm17.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.10.47]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0MRZ00H5IUAHFVL0@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for FOT@autox.team.net; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:08:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [67.83.138.143] by webtop.webmail.optimum.net with HTTP; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:08:41 -0400 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:08:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Redmond To: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Subject: [Fot] Rod bolts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Friends, What recommendations do we have for connecting rod bolts for a TR3 race engine? B Part numbers if possible. Todd _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 23 12:09:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C8742959 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:09:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail201c2.megamailservers.com (mail201c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 693C842925 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:07:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail201c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r7NI7XVf025995; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 14:07:43 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: "'Todd Redmond'" , References: <65e3a3df.14491.140ac263ab1.Webtop.47@optonline.net> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 14:07:31 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6gI3zk4uGi41YgSB+ZNSnXHtJx/wACAmUQ a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=lP_dTmOnQH95tCm8sekA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=3o1Wr2-2z1OkLqNZ:21 a=JW17fhgOKzkYlJaZ:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] Rod bolts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net My experience is that they were ARP bolts and came with the rods when you ordered them. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Todd Redmond Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 1:09 PM To: FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Rod bolts Friends, What recommendations do we have for connecting rod bolts for a TR3 race engine? B Part numbers if possible. Todd _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 23 15:57:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 477D140530 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 15:57:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57EC4403ED for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 15:55:18 -0600 (MDT) a=DtW/6CGGNwt0cadlEXZ2bg==:17 a=Ukxl3E1xh7YA:10 a=vBsC2ZDmLDkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=GzIcURd328oA:10 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=PlmlPS0koBLSxcsWEssA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=1Jj2rFFaG_-MuoGF:21 a=GRtQeSFl_UfsWXBr:21 a=DtW/6CGGNwt0cadlEXZ2bg==:117 Received: from [174.102.151.100] ([174.102.151.100:64368] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 35/61-18468-54AD7125; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 21:55:18 +0000 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 16:55:15 -0500 From: Richard Gehweiler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: john hasty , Triumph Friends of References: <0B871E5AE8C34864B1D5906E3F18C52E@gdhs.local> Subject: Re: [Fot] Steering Rack Conversion Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The MkI Mini steering rack has not been made for many years now. Suppliers now sell the later style rake that require the late style steering arms. As far as interchangeability with the TR conversion kit, it should bolt in, but I don't know it there would be any difference with the steering arms. I think because of the TR's bigger wheels, it probably wouldn't matter. Hope this helps some. Richard Gehweiler On 8/23/2013 11:38 AM, john hasty wrote: > Does anyone know whether the Moss "Mini Quick Steering Rack", (2.2 turns) > part #114-902 will fit/replace the steering rack that is furnished in the > original TR3 "Steering Rack Conversion Kit" (2.7 turns) part #667-248? I > have researched and found that the original Steering Rack Conversion Kit, > which I have, was made by a vendor in the UK using a Mk 1 Mini Cooper S rack > which was mfg. in Argintena. When this vendor went out of business, Moss > bought the rights to it; but I have not yet been able to get in touch with > anyone at Moss who knows if they continued using the same Mk 1 rack in their > conversion kit or if their Mini Quick Rack is interchangeable with the one > supplied in the original conversion kit. Does anyone have the answer????? > > John H. Hasty > Attorney At Law > Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. > 719 East Boulevard > Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 > Tele: (704) 372-5600 > Fax: (704) 372-4601 > E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com > www.gdhs.com > > PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is > intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that > is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. > If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message > and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. > > IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations > regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, > any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) > is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of > (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, > marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter > addressed herein. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mini@wi.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 24 14:22:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A37E403EF for ; Sat, 24 Aug 2013 14:22:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340804032B for ; Sat, 24 Aug 2013 14:22:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b%11]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Sat, 24 Aug 2013 15:22:01 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: "fot@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: Spitfire single rail trans, J-type Thread-Index: Ac6hB5avhNFw8i4MQPu7/RzyH+Ytqg== Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 20:22:00 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US Content-ID: Subject: [Fot] Spitfire single rail trans, J-type Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Anybody have one they'd like to sell? Any condition other than trashed..... Scott B. Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 25 15:09:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E975403E2 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 15:09:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f46.google.com (mail-qa0-f46.google.com [209.85.216.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF066403A5 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 15:09:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id i13so140459qae.12 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 14:09:12 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=U969hIY/1na+X8TLzStPvMz7pE/hIqyn9PdaDLheqBQ=; b=jo0R+gKNGFNEt22G6l33qRV4b8UxlrOYVWWVCSQmMGnkGsKpFbOytkjZlNqgpcmOjr bZcKuyUDGrE52Ux041QqfdUmRxP5bQTIjBYbaVSmYAYosSUXENA3g1g+QjrBuEaQGgiq 2bvhSBqFHPFv63ypsUwMicttd4CqNEoNUCOKRKJox0rLJlvklzywrZ0TsaG3qGjseL/j mtYpvzSNuMveQs2gF0eYW8V69Sj4BQspf/I1uUKvTntDUUePmCoK1WJ803tfw7Yom08C ZKZoKlaNLYOgKQhojcgDrSlhkpqKNfJonwni+/M5zW1gb0i7JHTlqA6T5EQtx7P4fkT+ iwvQ== j8mr12628148qai.0.1377464952586; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 14:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.128.65 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 14:08:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Kas Kastner Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 14:08:32 -0700 To: fot Subject: [Fot] Spa & F-1 today Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In the event today the overhead shots from the helicopter showed how much tighter the corners really are. That view gives even more credit to Christian Marx and his video of his race and passing at same track where the turns did not look that sharp due to the car angle view. *Never be beaten by equipment.* _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 26 08:09:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FBF540417 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 08:09:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C1D8403D5 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 08:09:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.10]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E0A4D70121DF3; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 10:09:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mta005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mta005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.145]) by mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id EACECE00008B; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 10:09:28 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 10:09:28 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377526169; bh=Jw/8cb+CvC/WwPfOrhpr/FNCLNim/L65/o7fPIYQFj8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=glXCg1mtJnw80mskflQ2DiGCBPT5Pngyvt6Cyy/jh0mklhHG3dGzY5b4XYX8cXu4+ H3uo7ryVMr7P6uAFCDZucy+XUMLqoiTslHTp/iMR8sjcVSmNdX2VmDC1Rsz088KscQ /rxF1y1T01oXazMM/DJr1MNhDIG7bHGwVvh0YFKY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290a521b61983e92 Subject: [Fot] There will be a missing TRIUMPH warrior at ELVF... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici... Bob Wismer was not feeling too well when he came home from the big Road America event (The Hawk) in July. When rest and home treatment did not provide any relief, he sought professional treatment. His condition was described as 'walking pneumonia'. A major symptom was fatigue. Early on they were treating him with 'horse pills', and while that did help some, it did not cure him. So they kept running tests. After many tests and days of waiting, the diagnosis is Adenocarcinoma of the right lung. Chemo therapy starts on September 4th (after two more tests determine the best type of Chemo to use). Bob is being treated at University Hospitals (Iowa City). Two of Bob's daughters are nurses and helping Bob and his wife Eileen deal with all that is happening. He has been having good days and bad days, mostly due to the fact that he has not been sick in forty years. It is a new experience for him, and one that does not come easy to him. He says he will hate to miss the Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival this year. After all, after all it's a big Triumph event, and he's been at all of the other ELVF events down through the years. Oh yeah...he knows he is in a fight, but he promises to be 'back' next year. I'll miss him at the event. We all will. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 26 10:56:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F474040F for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 10:56:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm12-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm12-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.140]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8B8403EA for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 10:56:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.214.32] by nm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 2013 16:56:04 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.219] by tm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 2013 16:56:04 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1028.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 2013 16:56:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 90431 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Aug 2013 16:56:04 -0000 s=s1024; t=1377536164; bh=KuV31nIigi5r8/J7OZ5TKnQG6QGif3fgbHFwkKJ2MwQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KwP89HBWXgVWQDR6nviYNpubQoAHA9eyg7jTUuSpb3dG9cx6pNyXCWr9fa4J4Jk4ufHOnQsZtE0yfksuPMCzvrjP7iXuPs6C/RKPYt7YlWE4cgqDVu3JnreGSw2NiBiC5rIH5UGVlYB32AAzPiwAK4qY0/uvzHNyyNBLj5lElDw= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=G7ImIEpNbmwgh6TH1w0Vm04ZB62yFWIjFKQvOu3vovOc0PpGg/xL2GcJE4ZKgQvrdxKqkiL7l0XZ78di182lG4ZbVu6kpouqngSYclkAEmr0zGMVu8uLIidENuQmXJZDpcaFX08fXWxNhlmVqSw3bDSfEmIgjf78pGW+MPdKpQw=; XrOqCyRMssz1wJAo1f.HYfflNqDWXfPClAZAngF9RZVyueaAOlegLuvIY4Bk 31axHCamPYP43LPe_qe1zAwMuGFcJJOKXH5HbE1lqtCTzIDq34AzBsGYZsFR bySGsBvLmAgnuWeEOYIzL.bdWsP9816gv2HObXZy9FoVzesW7wRZo7RG8_pY 4k4l6zigqu4TohB6C2kx8b7e8Wf6YINbMcInOji9jdfHKgXUb..IDFp5RLkB LRcueC1EfH7vP0Xmh4bEcVxOz7E12wC8EF4xuDb1UwAm6DZ8VqbojIlp6UUR e9vY0gnL2QLn2taAm69IStrCoibSvPbZPM.rkY9xKWHBcGrh6G8wl.JzS9T5 8zRIEgw1cPZ7yqd6vaYAi8lGVKY3jasHZibuIAI_00fVTgcvmfKdOTiS52ST kPCMPKu1vLnoE8VkyqwbsDR2anQI0eOq3ccMHXzIiwR0jM55WhXVO68Zqiy6 wdcyZh0fR2k68prQqe7GkdS7gfytyz_KbLqK07tg4cW.FOjb1GrBv1DfeKCR ujZB7xZQcnv0du5ixZ6dsqr5tPVUxg9ILlvLkhl828hCKCAnfhb1PC7LcrM. VzBY.nxjGLnu2BECOWLpTkCD_fg5TMs1Uq_v7.Zlj.iPtYLssoLfQ4wt_nDh 8 Received: from [99.71.100.143] by web162204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 09:56:03 PDT U28gc29ycnkgdG8gaGVhciBhYm91dCBCb2IuIEdpdmUgaGltIG15IGJlc3QgYW5kIG91ciBwcmF5ZXJzIGdvIHRvIGhpbS4gCgoKR3V5IE1vcnRlcgpWaW50YWdlIEF1dG8gU2VydmljZQoyNjIgNTczIDQ1MTEKCkZsYXRoZWFkcyBGb3JldmVyIQoKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCkZyb206ICJCaWxsRGVudGluQGFvbC5jb20iIDxCaWxsRGVudGluQGFvbC5jb20.ClRvOiBmb3RAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQgClNlbnQ6IE1vbmRheSwgQXVndXN0IDI2LCAyMDEzIDk6MDkgQU0KU3ViamUBMAEBAQE- References: Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 09:56:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Guy Morter To: "BillDentin@aol.com" , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] There will be a missing TRIUMPH warrior at ELVF... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net So sorry to hear about Bob. Give him my best and our prayers go to him. Guy Morter Vintage Auto Service 262 573 4511 Flatheads Forever! ________________________________ From: "BillDentin@aol.com" To: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 9:09 AM Subject: [Fot] There will be a missing TRIUMPH warrior at ELVF... Amici... Bob Wismer was not feeling too well when he came home from the big Road America event (The Hawk) in July. When rest and home treatment did not provide any relief, he sought professional treatment. His condition was described as 'walking pneumonia'. A major symptom was fatigue. Early on they were treating him with 'horse pills', and while that did help some, it did not cure him. So they kept running tests. After many tests and days of waiting, the diagnosis is Adenocarcinoma of the right lung. Chemo therapy starts on September 4th (after two more tests determine the best type of Chemo to use). Bob is being treated at University Hospitals (Iowa City). Two of Bob's daughters are nurses and helping Bob and his wife Eileen deal with all that is happening. He has been having good days and bad days, mostly due to the fact that he has not been sick in forty years. It is a new experience for him, and one that does not come easy to him. He says he will hate to miss the Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival this year. After all, after all it's a big Triumph event, and he's been at all of the other ELVF events down through the years. Oh yeah...he knows he is in a fight, but he promises to be 'back' next year. I'll miss him at the event. We all will. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vintageautoservice@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 26 15:09:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90AAF403FE for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 15:09:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F1C403EA for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 15:08:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564DDA1014 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 15:08:30 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 15:08:29 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/22.0 SeaMonkey/2.19 To: fot@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Fot] There will be a missing TRIUMPH warrior at ELVF... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > Oh yeah...he knows he is in a fight, but he promises to be 'back' next > year. I'll miss him at the event. We all will. > > Not good news, indeed. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 26 20:02:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A8BD4041A for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 20:02:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s24.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s24.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.99]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5616540079 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 20:00:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W63 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s24.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 26 Aug 2013 19:00:13 -0700 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 22:00:12 -0400 FILETIME=[2AFC3120:01CEA2C9] Subject: [Fot] Lil needle help please Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net 1296 spitfire. O.S. intake valves. 11.1 CR. Isky cam, don't know the spec off the top my head. Last year I purchased a set the European Spec 1-1/2 S.U.'s to replace the 1-1/4's. I have been struggling getting them to run properly. I took the car to a dyno tonight to try and dial them in. No matter how much I dropped the jets I could not get them to richen up enough with the rear much leaner than the front. Best I could get was around 14.5 front and 17 rear. Obviously I need a different profile. I have ADN needles in there now that came with the carbs. I know there were both the same as I had looked at them previously so it made no sense why the rear was so much leaner than the front. When I got home I pulled them back out and happened to lay them side by side. Ding ding ding looks like somebody had re-profiled the front needle. it was about .030 smaller than the rear. that explains the difference in A/F readings. Obviously I need to get new needles prior to leaving for R.A. on Tuesday. I'll call Joe C. first thing in the morning and see if he can overnight some out to me. I need some suggestions to try. What are you folks running in your HS4's on the Spitfires. Any recommendations would be appreciated. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 26 20:10:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED9C40418 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 20:10:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s35.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s35.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.110]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DB1F40075 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 20:10:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W140 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s35.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 26 Aug 2013 19:10:26 -0700 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 22:10:25 -0400 References: FILETIME=[988BDF00:01CEA2CA] Subject: [Fot] FW: Lil needle help please Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net let me clarify, they were WAY rich at low RPM after I was adjusting, enough so that it would barley run below 3k, they leaned out at the upper end. Marty ---------------------------------------- > From: trmarty@hotmail.com > To: fot@autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 22:00:12 -0400 > Subject: [Fot] Lil needle help please > > 1296 spitfire. O.S. intake valves. 11.1 CR. Isky cam, don't know the spec off > the top my head. Last year I purchased a set the European Spec 1-1/2 S.U.'s to > replace the 1-1/4's. I have been struggling getting them to run properly. I > took the car to a dyno tonight to try and dial them in. No matter how much I > dropped the jets I could not get them to richen up enough with the rear much > leaner than the front. Best I could get was around 14.5 front and 17 rear. > Obviously I need a different profile. I have ADN needles in there now that > came with the carbs. I know there were both the same as I had looked at them > previously so it made no sense why the rear was so much leaner than the front. > When I got home I pulled them back out and happened to lay them side by side. > Ding ding ding looks like somebody had re-profiled the front needle. it was > about .030 smaller than the rear. that explains the difference in A/F > readings. Obviously I need to get new needles prior to leaving for R.A. on > Tuesday. I'll call Joe C. first thing in the morning and see if he can > overnight some out to me. I need some suggestions to try. What are you folks > running in your HS4's on the Spitfires. Any recommendations would be > appreciated. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 26 23:53:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C193E40515 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 23:53:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67DB140444 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 23:53:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E58B2A1014 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 23:53:38 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 23:53:38 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/22.0 SeaMonkey/2.19 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Oh oh - Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Looks like I screwed up. I *thought* I had locked in an affordable flight plan - apparently not. Any west coasters planning on driving through SLC on I-80 en route to Elkhart Lake that might have room for another freeloader? mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 27 06:06:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 579A74069D for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 06:06:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70D140334 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 06:06:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b%11]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 07:06:43 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: 'marty sukey' , FOT Thread-Topic: [Fot] Lil needle help please Thread-Index: AQHOosmCsNqU5ftfOUOJfX2YkCm2LJmo9EhQ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 12:06:42 +0000 References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Subject: Re: [Fot] Lil needle help please Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have run a bunch of different needles at different times. But the four sets I recall are BE, BG, CC and 4. This is 1296 or 1500 Spitfire, HS4s, Isky Z-307 cam, approx. 12:1 compression. Seems to me the BE and BG needles were too rich. I don't even recall at the moment which needles I'm running, but I think it's either the CC or the 4 needles. My A/F meter says I'm a little lean at 14.5 or so. Have been slowly running the jets down to try to richen it, but I'm also fouling plugs at cold startup. Maybe I should be thinking harder about this issue :-) (I would if I could get my stupid transmission stuff figured out...) Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of marty sukey Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 9:00 PM To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Lil needle help please 1296 spitfire. O.S. intake valves. 11.1 CR. Isky cam, don't know the spec off the top my head. Last year I purchased a set the European Spec 1-1/2 S.U.'s to replace the 1-1/4's. I have been struggling getting them to run properly. I took the car to a dyno tonight to try and dial them in. No matter how much I dropped the jets I could not get them to richen up enough with the rear much leaner than the front. Best I could get was around 14.5 front and 17 rear. Obviously I need a different profile. I have ADN needles in there now that came with the carbs. I know there were both the same as I had looked at them previously so it made no sense why the rear was so much leaner than the front. When I got home I pulled them back out and happened to lay them side by side. Ding ding ding looks like somebody had re-profiled the front needle. it was about .030 smaller than the rear. that explains the difference in A/F readings. Obviously I need to get new needles prior to leaving for R.A. on Tuesday. I'll call Joe C. first thing in the morning and see if he can overnight some out to me. I need some suggestions to try. What are you folks running in your HS4's on the Spitfires. Any recommendations would be appreciated. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 27 09:38:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90DA40687 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 09:38:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dub0-omc1-s22.dub0.hotmail.com (dub0-omc1-s22.dub0.hotmail.com [157.55.0.221]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E6040401 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 09:38:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DUB404-EAS7 ([157.55.0.237]) by dub0-omc1-s22.dub0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:38:42 -0700 Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:38:34 -0700 From: horizonracing To: "Barr, Scott" , 'marty sukey' , FOT FILETIME=[82332170:01CEA33B] Subject: Re: [Fot] Lil needle help please Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You can file flats on the needles to fine tune your mixture. TO richen the top end without affecting the idle, carefully file the bottom 3rd of the needle. Not a perfect solution, but has worked for me many times. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "Barr, Scott" Date: 08/27/2013 5:07 AM (GMT-08:00) To: 'marty sukey' ,FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Lil needle help please I have run a bunch of different needles at different times.B But the four sets I recall are BE, BG, CC and 4.B This is 1296 or 1500 Spitfire, HS4s, Isky Z-307 cam, approx. 12:1 compression. Seems to me the BE and BG needles were too rich.B I don't even recall at the moment which needles I'm running, but I think it's either the CC or the 4 needles.B My A/F meter says I'm a little lean at 14.5 or so.B Have been slowly running the jets down to try to richen it, but I'm also fouling plugs at cold startup. Maybe I should be thinking harder about this issueB :-) (I would if I could get my stupid transmission stuff figured out...) Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of marty sukey Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 9:00 PM To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Lil needle help please 1296 spitfire. O.S. intake valves. 11.1 CR. Isky cam, don't know the spec off the top my head. Last year I purchased a set the European Spec 1-1/2 S.U.'s to replace the 1-1/4's. I have been struggling getting them to run properly. I took the car to a dyno tonight to try and dial them in. No matter how much I dropped the jets I could not get them to richen up enough with the rear much leaner than the front. Best I could get was around 14.5 front and 17 rear. Obviously I need a different profile. I have ADN needles in there now that came with the carbs. I know there were both the same as I had looked at them previously so it made no sense why the rear was so much leaner than the front. When I got home I pulled them back out and happened to lay them side by side. Ding ding ding looks like somebody had re-profiled the front needle. it was about .030 smaller than the rear. that explains the difference in A/F readings. Obviously I need to get new needles prior to leaving for R.A. on Tuesday. I'll call Joe C. first thing in the morning and see if he can overnight some out to me. I need some suggestions to try. What are you folks running in your HS4's on the Spitfires. Any recommendations would be appreciated. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 27 14:11:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE65D40E01 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:11:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm18-vm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm18-vm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B764052E for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:11:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.169] by nm18.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Aug 2013 20:11:09 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.238] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Aug 2013 20:11:09 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1009.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Aug 2013 20:11:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 59281 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Aug 2013 20:11:09 -0000 s=s1024; t=1377634269; bh=Ks95X+BILVHJ0bWIzNtLy0B0F064LjqBlrUw3B/VhMU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2HAovXzuU/4q03RwKRLmdImgtWsEKhGK8KzD8cPqWsAZOPkvynlKdZiYFRSBrGeOw/q91qje4q/OVR52wa1AGh4jaFEaGGRnSvCXW7RuYWuY8VpkfvNXrXRuj+eu+GsMB73EU1M7ZL6CPTUxxltcy30UNuIr/Ipiu9zXfptjibo= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PVxRBLPpAr1hapALUhS4CGekXVPKTpwOxugTr349CMUO/cnR1jQIoS8RKLrM4k0YvuccDtEfzQ+GpzwIeXDXZ9bC3p0XcMY+00bTNO5Leqfovlc77VIEBwGHltph6QuaLB7qCJQtUrWhhasrUKca4Hxqbs033UMDs17Z/5axEmo=; uplJlGpFCqaEaekLOI7IPzqDYJAZ8gKD3o5hH.HlsszDn9T8MT2czFBkjyST S1zLqAlvHz78rFyOI23IwuinOR1gHUcAMWLq6NgtkGhvQGiJ59edBRDM1Yk_ IAJnH0YO3t13Jsri9LFzD7msERi6NCan.LAIt1Z.awb9X80V.ed9S2opJJl2 v52PvzbPUIsCBqr2IbgPbsxC0XNs9JCvE0HUYB6e3w3tNsNz_hIUCagSdS8M GqYb6rTVUX2FAEfA6Xs9u2XR0QEr_pE0T6q3SQ_ka7LRDqw4srGJpoUE0pNE P_qY56BLPDDneV7_z6_R6PzornYfxnQ1SHMSC6DXjrw5fI2mq2FAWtw6Lzik ead1ms92nVZegX5zAWX1pjE0wabMXcfQVfpg7K_El_GAXagVbYeuAyhuewbo MwNMvrybkKX5DHZlPHpdGDRivtLpLSG_sNYA2wFn5nbmjLJkWPbrt8XLxpA_ hqCKUHBMpubG66cmOt6jLmMIi5Ip995xLp0nhLFcaprRVOEXhbeSwvX9WT.M g0O8OPEVEXEI_uR6TIBA4uDIYMSzvl.PwR7KmDj9mL71V5Pyp6R0CSgN5xOk YPFwktzSIq1gOkMAvztgWVNqTAhc- Received: from [99.162.149.142] by web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:11:09 PDT SnVzdCBoZWFyZCB0aGF0IFRodW5kZXJoaWxsIFJhY2V3YXkgd2lsbCBhZGQgMiBtaWxlcyBvZiB0cmFjawp0byB0aGUgV2VzdCBvZiB0aGUgZXhpc3RpbmcgdHJhY2suwqBGcm9tIHRoZSBwaWN0dXJlcywgaXQgY2FuIGJlCm9wZXJhdGVkIGFzIGEgc2VwYXJhdGUgdHJhY2sgb3IgY29tYmluZWQgd2l0aCB0aGUgY3VycmVudC4KwqAKaHR0cDovL3RodW5kZXJoaWxsLmNvbS8KClNob3VsZCBiZSBpbnRlcmVzdGluZywgY29tYmluZWQgdHJhY2sgd2lsbCBiZSBhcm91bmQgNSBtaWxlcy4KCkFuZCBJIHdhcyBqdXMBMAEBAQE- References: <1377531590.20776.YahooMailNeo@web184802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:11:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Pettenati To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] Thunderhill West Expansion approved Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Just heard that Thunderhill Raceway will add 2 miles of track to the West of the existing track. From the pictures, it can be operated as a separate track or combined with the current. http://thunderhill.com/ Should be interesting, combined track will be around 5 miles. And I was just getting the hang of the current 15 turn 3 mile track. Cheers, Tim _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 27 14:26:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 817A340E16 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:26:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8AF4052E for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:26:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.87]) by qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HuoK1m0011smiN4ADwSo6M; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 20:26:48 +0000 Received: from Bud ([67.164.120.205]) by omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HwSn1m00M4RzRTX8gwSnTn; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 20:26:48 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "'Tim Pettenati'" , References: <1377531590.20776.YahooMailNeo@web184802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1377634269.18235.YahooMailNeo@web184806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:26:47 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6jYag8WYEMjm+BRFCOk7PF9XhdYwAASOZg Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1377635208; bh=xobSrIK4U2OtEu7LaiBzaKI3V1giOype1P83Uy7JFsQ=; h=Received:Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SGCUPKjGunoH0qBUhL+QHMGXzeki7mUqWrHLfyVaItMY+ifHI9cT/sMmOG4gybugK rSkQ/4yZvNX5CjrFmI/00QzsqmkdxjUEKy+hfYW+OtZ4hK2+n2zvuhFht7IkqNc1Ab loQvllAerkvde2Sqiej4GpbJeRW0ykgNRhRzaabEDkKVLvAqMl7pf0ToZ4ZeW9mnk/ 2+4lNbR0fHCgrnFtmxJmRa0dwtNhAWnHN9uHx3JDkxeqE0/nsvVbarH4aZfr4/rvAR 6eBluHriSlw4aFhfgCkUWkqFlvQKRx1CodZjcAr+X0xOYeqM8ntz1xgqxbZom1adMi BIVmBIqKrMFSg== Subject: Re: [Fot] Thunderhill West Expansion approved Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Tim..for sharing...It was a smart move to build in friendly Glen County...When the idea of building Thunderhill was first touted I was one person who said it didn't have a chance. I had seen so many 'Almost' race venues fail....Well I sure have to eat my words..Thunderhill is not only friendly to Racers and Race cars(no walls.except for the pit lane,just good old fashioned run-off, but extremely successful. RB -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Pettenati Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 1:11 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Thunderhill West Expansion approved Just heard that Thunderhill Raceway will add 2 miles of track to the West of the existing track. From the pictures, it can be operated as a separate track or combined with the current. http://thunderhill.com/ Should be interesting, combined track will be around 5 miles. And I was just getting the hang of the current 15 turn 3 mile track. Cheers, Tim _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 27 18:21:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E2E40C01 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 18:21:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d05.mx.aol.com (omr-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD34140447 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 18:20:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.198]) by omr-d05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6F1D17000009A; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 20:20:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 3568FE0000CF; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 20:20:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 19:20:54 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377649257; bh=JWpOHSwKVnlw4VQ+Ud16mgBysjQnPlWw4LHS7NKeoqw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=Vmt8p4Vcj1tz//i47vkrd2hxv9P/5QZCy9CYifNIrMngWvJksWPz1t0OQvNAHC88Y GFgs3vuKoqgF2c69Udu3qUZTnIdnDWmHt60Ta+ERV3Z08uer7WHfTtICCIroW2pkX5 8yDb1NCBvKrTVcLMwWj5asUXD9XVYpHSfHjODDPE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c6521d426908f0 Cc: Jay Fowler Subject: [Fot] Dan Fowler. 1954. Dan Fowler was the 1st American to win at Nurburgring Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net And he did it in a TR2........ Dan and his son Jay will be stopping by to say hello and spend some time with us. Please welcome Dan and Jay into our paddock. Just some more special moments in the weekend of the 11th Running of the Kastner Cup. Joe A _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 27 18:33:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9BA40E1A for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 18:33:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F230640447 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 18:33:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.76]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id J0HB1m0051eYJf8AB0ZSnD; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 00:33:26 +0000 Received: from Bud ([67.164.120.205]) by omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id J0ZR1m00y4RzRTX010ZRmW; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 00:33:26 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "'Joe Alexander'" , References: Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 17:33:25 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6jhJMki9K/d5mZS62psARvg+p4PQAAYzjQ Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1377650006; bh=E3DcHKHOLOqHba7inHAEk6ksZ8bkMPbuvRzcOU9FtkQ=; h=Received:Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jcP0MDm4VAHbtDtQcG8CTb06h8AbB31a7CQV+ocQz3IySpmUWOoP+GfKU7RuHJ2Bm yZJbABxiCgrEb6V1orqSbChcsd4GdUJVk+qiLTgg+0WWNJTzT/3m26VvBlHCNE/36r v6FNrs4zZSpmHl5Yh1/SWuX/XS+E5AwiX2UHVS3xWNjZrPj+gWefSDN0e/2xF6r4d/ 8gHILX38bNVYk6zUX3CrR6u/CiPAzEnNxMgFQfdQaABlNwpQesCSCAJOhX2jQ9HF2f eQ2ztk1Zb1ClB9avooaPCiQpR+fvzEj0HvEcNOjFBDVqxFrqKT90OkMvrH/nVsJwlA X4/gWEcZ/nQPA== Cc: 'Jay Fowler' Subject: Re: [Fot] Dan Fowler. 1954. Dan Fowler was the 1st American to win at Nurburgring Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A terrifically important Guy! RB -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Alexander Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 5:21 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Cc: Jay Fowler Subject: [Fot] Dan Fowler. 1954. Dan Fowler was the 1st American to win at Nurburgring And he did it in a TR2........ Dan and his son Jay will be stopping by to say hello and spend some time with us. Please welcome Dan and Jay into our paddock. Just some more special moments in the weekend of the 11th Running of the Kastner Cup. Joe A _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 27 18:44:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243D640572 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 18:44:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d10.mx.aol.com (omr-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97B840447 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 18:44:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.197]) by omr-d10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 64BFB700000B7; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 20:44:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 1C75DE0000E8; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 20:44:45 -0400 (EDT) References: <006601cea386$35e02430$a1a06c90$@net> From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 19:44:44 -0500 To: "" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377650685; bh=OQoqM9wMmCbgjKQdHJFYvh/YQnNtKoVYrhuDn67zd0E=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=k+wOItPDZpbKHyfYeE0QvKrOudxgvBh2n6viogU8Bk/f2XTita2lCJwwjWOAbTfMt TCHR/D+fxYnFVJrO5dDoT97bG2BcnilYSg0JX7SoaEz+3L8Brbun+vB3p88HTWcpul TrIbb8UVGa1QG70XaQ/So6AvNwF1SiZFDTwq2b6I= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c5521d47fd0872 Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Dan Fowler. 1954. Dan Fowler was the 1st American to win at Nurburgring Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes....I forgot to mention that Dan Fowler was also The 1965 National Champion in a Formula Vee. Sent from my iPad On Aug 27, 2013, at 7:33 PM, "RACER BUD" wrote: > A terrifically important Guy! > RB > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Joe Alexander > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 5:21 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Cc: Jay Fowler > Subject: [Fot] Dan Fowler. 1954. Dan Fowler was the 1st American to win at > Nurburgring > > And he did it in a TR2........ > > Dan and his son Jay will be stopping by to say hello and spend some time > with us. > > Please welcome Dan and Jay into our paddock. > > Just some more special moments in the weekend of the 11th Running of the > Kastner Cup. > > Joe A > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 28 11:49:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4274041B for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 11:49:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f173.google.com (mail-ea0-f173.google.com [209.85.215.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47232403FB for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 11:49:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f173.google.com with SMTP id g10so3115847eak.32 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 10:49:39 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=6l8vFcoZkz2ts3bDhSzZ8BYFfhVRiLBNhjqAHYsTJ9o=; b=bgPC6eDXBictPJTR58rINBDwmZ5AAfPM8N19m8NAv//qEFheH4Ne+E01JoLuITrjnS c4bnapgKnRWhWyMCJ23cBLgsH+kwXn6xQfMZnLcT793SJcyMOtPGU3cPvPz+c7nsCKRG qKEG69mEyPN79y4dQiINKjQPMFa6dU1lAjVX7jqGk6qvLih9/DAzyG2cPDC8iWGrj+uq zZbuD1bXL63A7kCY9XXFP9NQgfMMPTC/nyiQAZKXNa7AFbrTYo6kGwSDGTZltb4ZScWv Ak7z5f2Qb1ku+dc4Y0JdjLbHyR1pErJNbPfykQ9qYy9LsyXzhNQwKsJ8iAYbt7pG7QGT Gbmw== y7mr4129228eee.69.1377712179368; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 10:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.174.140.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id p5sm39293777eeg.5.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 28 Aug 2013 10:49:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <521C3EE2.5040307@bradakis.com> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 19:49:36 +0200 Thread-index: Ac6i6dZ+jOOUGAPoSpW4Y6+0x05iNwBLKjBw Content-language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Oh oh - Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Oups....the event is getting closer more fast than I thought. I hope I have done all needed and be in a good shape for next week. See you all soon. Hope for a beer or two. Chris BTW...had today my first couple of Dollars in my hand. Interesting money. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 28 12:14:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D1DD4044F for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 12:14:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail202c2.megamailservers.com (mail202c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E5340074 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 12:13:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail202c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r7SIDcQb016287; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 14:13:43 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: "'MadMarx'" , "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <521C3EE2.5040307@bradakis.com> <001801cea416$f7691d60$e63b5820$@com> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 14:13:36 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6i6dZ+jOOUGAPoSpW4Y6+0x05iNwBLKjBwAADuYEA= a=T5U-i8ldPcwA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=apiNDUCiwLqQ2wdlCQsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=H4a_Qqab7kjc67q2:21 a=fB-489hRAkd9HRXE:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] Oh oh - Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The most interesting thing about Dollars is how damn fast they leave your hand! John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of MadMarx Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:50 PM To: 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Oh oh - Kastner Cup Oups....the event is getting closer more fast than I thought. I hope I have done all needed and be in a good shape for next week. See you all soon. Hope for a beer or two. Chris BTW...had today my first couple of Dollars in my hand. Interesting money. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 28 13:38:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD86E40510 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 13:38:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f177.google.com (mail-ie0-f177.google.com [209.85.223.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5EF400AD for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 13:38:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f177.google.com with SMTP id e14so8979936iej.8 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 12:38:46 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:reply-to:sensitivity:importance :subject:to:from:date:content-type:mime-version; bh=ZVaSfloQZWpTes+vME/Gni4TdrhO9gN65LFeQ85c5us=; b=Z99qglHeBJZ3o7Q2kuhTRcGNfQ/WRLaETYhh4arU8XOq04ILYf+eAWtxZRjzBSuxcl nct1gHGTqV6rkybjBdMOMItKYlCsFyPqsNOrKOt2j10TseMVz0gUHuD1KObJaorUAAOe XB06eueX8JVpDU3Iw3FM/vzl+Jdw6fcbA/DiZqJZFJGwZLsXizmSGsv66KnacygfTvFY 1DxPFX4u5ysDcw/ZQY4j/9cCE2MupYW0hntek65zn28/F3v523PqyymojX+Y3dk7E4ZU JK0AFtR50DjfLgsGuN4BKwg5E+94V1Fq3Hg2OCF80UezTSOSbPt5ZU5PENKc0FllPPhR BX1A== kr10mr13960668igb.20.1377718726202; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 12:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.187 (bda-74-82-80-176.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b16sm5983005igd.7.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 28 Aug 2013 12:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Sensitivity: Normal To: "triumph friends" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 19:38:42 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Drill Bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Late last night in I put a drill bit completely through my finger and out the other side. Lots of pain and blood lost on the quest for the Kastner Cup. Hours of prep turn into days. Why would the oil cooler I need be the only size that is out of stock...everywhere. I found one that will work but likely will need a different mounting set-up. Sounds easy.. 5 - 10 minutes tops. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 28 15:01:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC87C40452 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 15:01:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC5040418 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 14:58:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.90]) by qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JDr41m0021wpRvQ59Ly9MN; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 20:58:09 +0000 Received: from [10.121.109.210] ([166.147.81.231]) by omta18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JLxg1m00E4zT35A3eLxnLu; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 20:58:04 +0000 References: <20130828193916.CA12040436@autox.team.net> From: Jim Gray Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 14:57:38 -0600 To: "jason@multivintage.com" s=q20121106; t=1377723489; bh=8e9ErUbZ9IGLbv25vI27RiP5pdzvWROWb77VrB03gAc=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=aDHax8amHVg26zcK72v1wWTFPqZcK7cqgIT1KJi3xGIgIj8E0t70wRD6j3JdT/Gsy 2YrtFOOVdN7pLktgQXjT+4oBnMXdbXrkkoKgvi/kI4w5VCjuA0GdUeJgsLcj6SdF/C +w1o4zMqrnN3PrKlsya9bjFo4JywdLdk1JqwV7g36GluqUpWccGcN+xn/Kb2TXTh0Q zARlazSnTej9/6D3VBXIZ+GnKBK9kcBnljQC2wI7yX4/MVDbPTkV45skg6qOATkaCT gq+IcBPCZi15dnI3VZUQjwm7x4P0+DZAxN4EkWfYmkL5mLLH5V1o5UbbF7L5SpsM69 6q8sAx+HFVf1Q== Cc: triumph friends Subject: Re: [Fot] Drill Bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Well, you have fingers for nine more attempts. Jg Sent from my iPhone On Aug 28, 2013, at 1:38 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > Late last night in I put a drill bit completely through my finger and out the other side. Lots of pain and blood lost on the quest for the Kastner Cup. Hours of prep turn into days. Why would the oil cooler I need be the only size that is out of stock...everywhere. I found one that will work but likely will need a different mounting set-up. Sounds easy.. 5 - 10 minutes tops. > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 28 15:05:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260074043E for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 15:05:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f52.google.com (mail-qa0-f52.google.com [209.85.216.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386F940418 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 15:04:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id ii20so748462qab.11 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 14:04:51 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=acq03kw9jyuEUMg4eElp9QBnUOxQZogVzvvV/adnl6A=; b=A2F7SfIc2sDn9VT5v3oBJUDXHSWj9Dms5QoaeZeAvo/evRDX9VaVpOob/VqTD33hy6 nn9TJ3IbHoPE9F+RVjT7Pka5vzqRuh6I4beHLrPs6o/25V2lSeNR/0qwpffTUAZTTots vIvai+8q8Iat/a7VNIqgMQ9e/ao3qHgEYABbmCAz3MSpbU1RhpAK3lM+miHP/DdZf0S/ PQunTBgKwEglIkDd13tGpfpshftcRgqZ+KqkZqlS1pLT9hX+3s9ME46yC6pAFTjGOlF7 XwJf2Gto5BN9ENBsMSYerefUIqrJcQbcHGY6FuTpf3mjdZ39bON56mqSUazqOpm1qHWb pbTg== z10mr33294031qeg.4.1377723891157; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 14:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.73.134 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 14:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.73.134 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 14:04:51 -0700 (PDT) References: <20130828193916.CA12040436@autox.team.net> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 14:04:51 -0700 From: Michael Haberthur To: Jim Gray Cc: triumph friends Subject: Re: [Fot] Drill Bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Try not to drill your thumb. It can make it very difficult to use your pants fly. Not many friends are willing to help you with it either. .... On Aug 28, 2013 2:01 PM, "Jim Gray" wrote: Well, you have fingers for nine more attempts. Jg Sent from my iPhone On Aug 28, 2013, at 1:38 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > Late last night in I put a drill bit ... http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donat... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 28 15:17:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2871C40510 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 15:17:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.196]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4050E4040B for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 15:17:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vwm27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (vwm27.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.10.57]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0MS9007E9F5GA960@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 17:17:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [67.83.138.143] by webtop.webmail.optimum.net with HTTP; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 17:17:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 17:17:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Redmond To: Michael Haberthur References: <20130828193916.CA12040436@autox.team.net> User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: triumph friends Subject: Re: [Fot] Drill Bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That's funny On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 05:04 PM, Michael Haberthur wrote: > Try not to drill your thumb. It can make it very difficult to use your > pants fly. Not many friends are willing to help you with it either. > .... > > On Aug 28, 2013 2:01 PM, "Jim Gray" wrote: > > Well, you have fingers for nine more attempts. > Jg > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 28, 2013, at 1:38 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > >> Late last night in I put a drill bit ... > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donat... > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 28 15:24:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 748394044C for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 15:24:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bosmailout12.eigbox.net (bosmailout12.eigbox.net [66.96.189.12]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242EC4040B for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 15:24:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bosmailscan15.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.15]) by bosmailout12.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1VEnDq-0000Ap-8L for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 17:24:14 -0400 Received: from bosimpout04.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.4]) by bosmailscan15.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1VEnDp-0007T8-C7 for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 17:24:13 -0400 Received: from bosauthsmtp04.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.4]) by bosimpout04.eigbox.net with NO UCE id JMQD1m00F05GATN01MQDmm; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 17:24:13 -0400 a=Z/iyfutoV/OUUWbxX14Mlw==:17 a=3-MZCWuAnnEA:10 a=oZfs261O0nkA:10 a=DrRCb7plzq8A:10 a=GIUMEBREz7DXNpcGKxAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Qxw_EE3TZYEA:10 a=r5VbHcKM9ZoA:10 a=b8Y8ZH6U5GRI0dq3EsAA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=jcMFiYeD4Gz02xRQ37rMPA==:117 Received: from [173.219.77.9] (helo=zap6) by bosauthsmtp04.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1VEnDp-0002Dn-79 for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 17:24:13 -0400 From: "Robert MacKenzie" To: "'FoT Triumph'" Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 16:24:02 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac6kMnQ/inp3v4DDTrim4RnWQy2G5wAAmzEQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] CVAR @ TWS - Grage space neede for two cars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Who has garage space booked fot CVAR @TWS? Do you have space for two additional cars? Robert MacKenzie _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 28 19:24:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F9F34040B for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 19:24:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d08.mx.aol.com (omr-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.207]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B744006D for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 19:24:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.130]) by omr-d08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 2EFD7700028EF; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 21:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.0.10.26] (unknown [38.108.56.239]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 9B788E0000D6; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 21:24:39 -0400 (EDT) From: John Frymark Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 20:24:34 -0500 To: tr4racing@googlemail.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377739480; bh=Uu71TXKnvGUYLQLNyZpz8j6JMN4crYCFdQd8hh+q3Hc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=pCpfVXAFhpTrZpPK+P5viGcoXw83HAOYfnCg2OwfdpscGKF5yRZHhN5QmrQQLm2Wf Mi9vBVBpznR3QZ+XLf55Zp/fT2puVJNKYDyyMTkvCF/r4qSlTWtwb/zWijwsJX3LOQ nJU2Cn5DWUlqUCteEPDGDC1yPxE5DLSk3aZSfehc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d3382521ea2d76f2f Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Oh oh - Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > Chris wrote: "BTW...had today my first couple of Dollars in my hand. Interesting money." Only us old guys rely on the actual paper money. Youngsters rely on a bank debit card for all purchases. So beware that most Americans under the age of 25 can't make correct change at the cash register. Same with driving a manual transmission! _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 28 19:36:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E82040454 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 19:36:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8435540074 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 19:33:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JQuj1m0040QkzPwAARZ4Le; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 01:33:04 +0000 Received: from Bud ([67.164.120.205]) by omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JRZ31m00M4RzRTX8NRZ390; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 01:33:04 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "'John Frymark'" , References: Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 18:24:58 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6kVp5IDWTs5f2kQZiIpWnWDCf6HQAAMOWw Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1377739984; bh=ljRSXsnp2B3VylAUO6Jl9qLDxvlWJ9vbL8FfxCsJGww=; h=Received:Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=a05C6VGxJwJ6DBuMp3YYyZJoaMwUowK8cc6Jxou8hWPWPAGiRMKpm+Gm7n9rar3z8 UW2uM/f3KajszHtwCbDUon2cmPuOUxV4NNvCpYfNiKiAt9mNyIytQXAEP/3kQ0vR1o LXXICKrSl9gQEEarwTKcUeb72KlF5dZZJh8P45F4uULDZffV/NTc714gGrAQ0SIo2q yRzzcQiDkiru8wMHjeTfKhfk3D29kjQm3h9yRp4++wpGyDvIwku++BlEcJE3vYfr3Y lpcHCrLrWzB9Qk0zuu8SNjsooe/Sv21tQI0vXJrwPhteBABF4/IjDY0+nd7CJv9SkB G2ZsIZjuXxPaQ== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Oh oh - Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I recently bought a Chevy Sonic Turbo 6 speed stick...when I was at the dealer I wasn't sure what I wanted...He said.."that car is a really good deal..the problem is it's a stick! (:-) RB -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Frymark Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 6:25 PM To: tr4racing@googlemail.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Oh oh - Kastner Cup > Chris wrote: "BTW...had today my first couple of Dollars in my hand. Interesting money." Only us old guys rely on the actual paper money. Youngsters rely on a bank debit card for all purchases. So beware that most Americans under the age of 25 can't make correct change at the cash register. Same with driving a manual transmission! _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 29 08:09:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8F44051F for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:09:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d09.mx.aol.com (omr-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA0C403BC for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:09:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.193]) by omr-d09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id C014B700000BF; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 10:09:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 84516E0000B6; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 10:09:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 09:09:25 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377785365; bh=KxoD+bPpK/ma/RaGNsnGEu5op7R554lekIDIGiXezYc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=wA+pj5OflulJp+qaYeVAR66BnanjomjWQkBmc0Ig9IN+CqVsV0gWaru68G+sX216U dCxnLdqj/vZ5nxBCo00AQ55/gEPdCc+5TKEnamZ6XiOOU7GT8inHxgsrl5scaiTU+A cLadk7E0wroYri4li5DszD8WRPab85M+xEj3lx/U= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c1521f561564b6 Cc: deb korneli Subject: [Fot] FOT Flags. Bring them to the KCup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT Faithful, Bring your FOT flags to the Kastner Cup. No guarantee at this point, but I may try to make up PVC flag poles. Or you can take the initiative to ensure that it happens, and supply your own. I see taking them to the Grid as we wait for the start of the KCup. There is usually a crew or family member attending to each racer. It would be a nice feature to show off our "colors' at the same time. Makes a very good photo op as well. Not exactly the same as "Grid Girls", but doing that requires another level of non-organization. Unfortunately, our virtuoso bagpiper has to leave on Saturday before the KCup race, so we will not have that feature on the Grid. He will, however, make other spontaneous appearances, when you least expect it. Dave Massey of St. Louis has performed internationally. Thanks.... Joe A. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 29 12:36:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B171F4043E for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 12:36:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f170.google.com (mail-ea0-f170.google.com [209.85.215.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D8CD40450 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 12:35:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f170.google.com with SMTP id h14so432004eak.15 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 11:35:12 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=Mkovzct8LX0Uaxf2ZSNW9ESIzIhIzSNusWDnGrvnyGI=; b=h5++WwSKBHMr2cepbJUGqbIlnaoQLEMLRT20yCibxmDl5S3sw9ywsIFrf4oZF2OhFV lxsspRG+pzfvy3oFda14imhhzQ8CtKma0xM4iDhVi54tDvn2MhR8pMtCEG5ySfWEvEJ8 HWWMJ56IV4neKHv6fI3mPuXMGfTLd2cKNDYmBOG6yTPngZWcL1EF7TAjDQpHFHzN2FZv L04FWjZyqD6wXrFA81m2KuAZgKXhcy8/qtBYSdNXixvjJr5v2OKMTrRBKi4TtYPwOj+V JU3/LUj//U8iVe4ey7s5EMOwHl4Bf7o9MqqYYOvFEWusvNHwjGHb8KRmNgwaO8FO+jOW 3C2g== Thu, 29 Aug 2013 11:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([46.78.81.97]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d8sm48302464eeh.8.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 29 Aug 2013 11:35:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <521C3EE2.5040307@bradakis.com> <001801cea416$f7691d60$e63b5820$@com> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 20:35:11 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6k5PDQtDRkjTKHSPq/52jrMbaRfQAAWlnQ Content-Language: de Subject: [Fot] Donington Park Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I currently prepare the videos from the last weekend. This is a short view on a Qualy session. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCqhHlPzdvs Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 29 12:43:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD25040539 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 12:43:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail202c2.megamailservers.com (mail202c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E1640398 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 12:43:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail202c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r7TIgwgG002488; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:43:03 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: "'MadMarx'" , "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <521C3EE2.5040307@bradakis.com><001801cea416$f7691d60$e63b5820$@com> <001201cea4e6$7fa9f080$7efdd180$@com> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:42:56 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6k5PDQtDRkjTKHSPq/52jrMbaRfQAAWlnQAABC7bA= a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=eVKCJ0HsAAAA:20 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=-EULLabt5DG8Emd1CnoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=ipctFX1kxKAk4e4b:21 a=sjuyq1m5hgKbDo48:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] Donington Park Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net AH.....fond memories. We were there twice with the bikes, once before the loop after the Dunlop bridge was built and once after...... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of MadMarx Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:35 PM To: 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: [Fot] Donington Park I currently prepare the videos from the last weekend. This is a short view on a Qualy session. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCqhHlPzdvs Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 29 13:11:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA7840520 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 13:11:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f174.google.com (mail-ie0-f174.google.com [209.85.223.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98084043D for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 13:01:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f174.google.com with SMTP id k14so1472705iea.19 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 12:01:30 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :references:in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date :content-type:mime-version; bh=3hygl4/Nkp2LvyIZrQswaXtFHGRyWPQ1MPmcG7GXTNs=; b=Eb3amW6dtz6VGxWY+2Zn2oObnSyj+O0LaFYahITa9bZksbRomFRlKjBIfmIB8QnX3q Ui7MlCl1oXP6sLjVRB9uR1k69N08fAkKW9sq/wfliWxgpIwOX44NvNvGhGFMPVgMtzFV Lioa+KK/1Rtr7VQa/T7/rQuwkNfj+AYzbPsZWvz+wmi1wJO5BXsbWQvRa7WqPOQxN0IE 6ielN7TvhH2SHveXgYQNAvL4tRrJmq+vkClTreJZlZ5nGFipEN95TGpSnCDPZ5dhXW5H S3M2UGu6mtDXIEUUjZhXgeOH6cXdSVGRv+/JtHaZCDbFosQ8zbKhn0zEWAf00jTizoN/ p1eA== xc15mr1193316icb.67.1377802890124; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 12:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.187 (bda-74-82-80-176.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ka5sm12661770igb.2.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 29 Aug 2013 12:01:29 -0700 (PDT) References: <521C3EE2.5040307@bradakis.com> <001801cea416$f7691d60$e63b5820$@com> <001201cea4e6$7fa9f080$7efdd180$@com> Sensitivity: Normal To: "john hasty" ,fot-bounces@autox.team.net,"'MadMarx'" , "'Friends of Triumph'" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 19:01:22 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] Donington Park Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Likely, about the same time I was building hot wheels tracks. I distinctly remember having to remove the "loops" from my friends tracks before I would race my cars on their tracks. I had to explain that such "loops" were FAKE and would never be seen on a real race track. It made me angry that some goofy Mattel toy creator kept trying to push this nonsense of tracks with sections where the cars could drive upside down. The guy had probably never even seen a road race. What an idiot. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "john hasty" To: 'MadMarx'; 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Donington Park AH.....fond memories. We were there twice with the bikes, once before the loop after the Dunlop bridge was built and once after...... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of MadMarx Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:35 PM To: 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: [Fot] Donington Park I currently prepare the videos from the last weekend. This is a short view on a Qualy session. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCqhHlPzdvs Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 29 13:50:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 652054052F for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 13:50:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d01.mx.aol.com (omr-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.252.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A939440397 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 13:47:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.70]) by omr-d01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id EC22D70057A54 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:47:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 76072E0000AE for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:47:13 -0400 (EDT) References: <1377805062.78019.YahooMailNeo@web160506.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:47:05 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377805633; bh=sj4xSLLuF/rcGgITGyYyeENp3WoVB+qBPItDXlaIjV0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=hOicvkYt0kkSYT5hIJbuO64KNV2q81V9SfDHQ66krojXo4yHgg1m2RJqUiD8gjP2E YfJZn6bVANNUx1xZKN7/SiF4qc9JXYvp4csY5zGsmdMh3JgUflg1qY87m+wdbkydUZ VlZyg8K75nJlZhRNa+X+QfJUM9tU3FvXiY5ZZJCk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2946521fa5417fdb Subject: [Fot] Fwd: 89MM head gaskets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mark Macy of Macy's Garage is looking for a gasket for 89 mm conversion. The Protrusion he mentions, I assume to be 3-4 thousandths. What do you 89 mm racers use? Thanks! Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Mark Macy > Date: August 29, 2013, 2:37:42 PM CDT > To: "n197tr4@cs.com" > Subject: 89MM head gaskets > Reply-To: Mark Macy > > Hi Joe: > > Mark Macy here. I have a question which you might have an answer for. > > We're putting together our first 89mm engine, and I'm having difficulty getting the head gasket to seal. Have not fired the engine yet, but it keeps leaking water into the oil from the head gasket. Liners stand proud of the block 3-4mm, and the head was resurfaced. Have tried two of the Moss 89mm head gaskets and my guess is that the steel rings around the cylinders are not crushing enough to allow the thin "paper" gasket to seal the rest of the block and head. Is there a better gasket available, or am I missing something different entirely? > > Cheers, > Mark _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 29 14:05:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 639F340533 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:05:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f172.google.com (mail-ea0-f172.google.com [209.85.215.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BDE403A7 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:04:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f172.google.com with SMTP id r16so487266ead.31 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 13:04:40 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=t8T4HLieKT45fmJ86dOoMlINTtZx1hfc1RlLcUApGMQ=; 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Thu, 29 Aug 2013 13:36:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <521C3EE2.5040307@bradakis.com> <001801cea416$f7691d60$e63b5820$@com> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 22:36:31 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6k5PDQtDRkjTKHSPq/52jrMbaRfQAEmnyQ Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Oh oh - Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Just saw on the entry list that one of my favorite cars is there....a Cheetah :-) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 29 14:37:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F219E40452 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:37:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d06.mx.aol.com (omr-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 055DA403B2 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:36:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.70]) by omr-d06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id C0B31700EEAA8 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 16:36:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id C9E16E0001D0 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 16:36:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:36:51 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377808613; bh=3S7chuo9Uq8J9+mXUZul9RWSriMtqMtXfsDN8VOXZVI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=r/ax8+T2t+sadwzQs7UE8rLu7cUal9+lkb2w00JK++BiRaLfQ0su6flOqDFXtVdxj gq3BbGJGLaRJlK19NMBXjqaH30OGY6qhamV+F+1xwF6uua/CY3e7NESUoZxQddyXZA fDNM8Py0z1GEUc0pt7ZCNKW5IVM6PQlZQEuZJmdU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2946521fb0e54a8d Subject: [Fot] Mad Marx Caliper Brake Seal Kits Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I asked him to bring some kits along with him. Sean just installed some on the TR4 and was very impressed. But he has not run them yet. Chris has great reports on his own personal use. There is a second seal that helps keep the debris out of the piston area. The OEM style dust covers burn away.....these won't. They are expensive but you get what you pay for. He will bring in his luggage for you if you speak up. Just let me know.....No profit margins here. Just trying to facilitate distributing an improved product. You can look at them and refuse, of course. Joe A _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 29 14:43:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2369540539 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:43:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f47.google.com (mail-ee0-f47.google.com [74.125.83.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE8D403D9 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:43:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f47.google.com with SMTP id d49so489759eek.6 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 13:43:30 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=TrsFscEWJ6XuNVqGwQdpq2od+6ATTvqnzzFYXZcYvsY=; b=cJFBaHCA6EXhPN6IRVx37rqXJepUNHtVJ/eXEc7bQHuYEG5OJEgndnJmmLQqQlNw8S eOp9wjP4lBw6HTXbsWuTYqwRzUZaM5pZTQf4BZprCV7aiDw8qBRUCQRQMzYVTsVeNUld rtpu1D46JO2teCKb/s2/DJn9R119r/LU/U6HH3LvmfC88iXzr/79K6A62jdX3/+nqU+c 7sIfv17VflqWc6VTvu6vdTo6XW0vqdUOmHcdby/W1p1FtJUq61vuXP4h91VrbDtdasGY +yotQgsO3OgNGqS+T+I6KSzlipvGRlcjN/t1fhPiM7F6YWjMJQ0kUC2/VNMvVrVhF07E ocTg== w13mr6761614eev.37.1377809010033; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 13:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([46.78.81.97]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id a43sm49145871eep.9.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 29 Aug 2013 13:43:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Joe Alexander'" , References: <1377805062.78019.YahooMailNeo@web160506.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <0A1D0522-11F4-448A-A210-BB92862978A7@cs.com> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 22:43:28 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6k8QxBwrUNkMDJQwCf2TM5mVIpdQABxD8Q Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: 89MM head gaskets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I would say....3-4mm is way too much as this is 0.118"-0.157" If this is just a point failure and the number is 0.04mm then you should be okay. I always use sealant with the head gasket Locktite 518 + a copper wire around the sleeves. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Joe Alexander Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. August 2013 21:47 An: fot@autox.team.net Betreff: [Fot] Fwd: 89MM head gaskets Mark Macy of Macy's Garage is looking for a gasket for 89 mm conversion. The Protrusion he mentions, I assume to be 3-4 thousandths. What do you 89 mm racers use? Thanks! Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Mark Macy > Date: August 29, 2013, 2:37:42 PM CDT > To: "n197tr4@cs.com" > Subject: 89MM head gaskets > Reply-To: Mark Macy > > Hi Joe: > > Mark Macy here. I have a question which you might have an answer for. > > We're putting together our first 89mm engine, and I'm having > difficulty getting the head gasket to seal. Have not fired the engine yet, but it keeps leaking water into the oil from the head gasket. Liners stand proud of the block 3-4mm, and the head was resurfaced. Have tried two of the Moss 89mm head gaskets and my guess is that the steel rings around the cylinders are not crushing enough to allow the thin "paper" gasket to seal the rest of the block and head. Is there a better gasket available, or am I missing something different entirely? > > Cheers, > Mark _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 29 14:52:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D403640547 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:52:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f44.google.com (mail-ee0-f44.google.com [74.125.83.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBAA2403A7 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:47:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f44.google.com with SMTP id b47so504142eek.3 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 13:47:31 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=bpKAqmQsAH+IZfWouRFag8/dnK+dYTMkNYGhaURk1UI=; b=ibv4Ug9Csd28lpODmj8Wpgq6U55hdXOEOdVazRcbDHsBCOXj1LFlheAhtmsgQme+AM oOQXN3ISfvjLXzyW99b+anEp1tqbjTo/orLoWRWROwdZB/6PM7FGrFU/ZC6aZ7Tt8CGB IfoySGsZvO1CkZOhoRuGm37Z3sKa2rSno3B1ab59i0nxpCI969FsjAIpHd8uRivxC9p6 HsFQNgWjrZPTImNOckv+P4AMkcNjnuDZjM3Mq5wev59WJWm0X5OsSMMpaK13egj2GE9o rVpmMoh6IBFfskrcg8xYgFdVbvQlNYtRyQ+q3EChda4fLCrDWayPKUZCxPWjLHOTUPHB dT1g== a49mr6856596eei.48.1377809250951; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 13:47:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([46.78.81.97]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id h52sm49168720eez.3.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 29 Aug 2013 13:47:30 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <521C3EE2.5040307@bradakis.com> <001801cea416$f7691d60$e63b5820$@com> <002201cea4f7$734bade0$59e309a0$@com> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 22:47:29 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6k98ieBLafLlgAT0Wd3F/O5EKXkwAAQzww Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Oh oh - Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I had one as Matchbox toy car in my box. I didn't know for many years that this car was a real car.....about 10 years ago I learned that they were real. -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Joe Alexander [mailto:n197tr4@cs.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. August 2013 22:39 An: MadMarx Betreff: Re: [Fot] Oh oh - Kastner Cup Yes, and I saw them run when new.......these are "continuation of build" cars. Sent from my iPad On Aug 29, 2013, at 3:36 PM, "MadMarx" wrote: > Just saw on the entry list that one of my favorite cars is there....a > Cheetah :-) _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 29 15:06:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C89940539 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:06:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gateway15.websitewelcome.com (gateway15.websitewelcome.com [67.18.82.10]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8CD403B2 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:01:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: by gateway15.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 5007) id 703A24E413B75; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 16:01:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gator3210.hostgator.com (gator3210.hostgator.com [198.57.247.174]) by gateway15.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A8D4E413B41 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 16:01:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 148.sub-70-192-130.myvzw.com ([70.192.130.148]:3130 helo=walterPC) by gator3210.hostgator.com with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VF9Lp-0004c7-ES; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 16:01:57 -0500 From: "Walter Hollowell" To: "'MadMarx'" , References: <521C3EE2.5040307@bradakis.com> <001801cea416$f7691d60$e63b5820$@com> <002201cea4f7$734bade0$59e309a0$@com> <002701cea4f8$fb1adf10$f1509d30$@com> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:01:55 -0600 Thread-Index: AQHYl2X8pO4mDug6NCTSfM2b4tq2YwIM9lY5Al5iyVcB/bbpcwG65BzTAcFwD6qZSZoNcA== Content-Language: en-us with any abuse report Subject: Re: [Fot] Oh oh - Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I think they actually made 6 originals in Phoenix with Chevy powertrains meant to be Cobra beaters but then the factory burnt down. They were extremely fast but hard to keep in a straight line and incredibly hot inside. The drivers racing seat sat just in front of the rear axle/differential. We had a silver Cheetah replica race at our road course in Albuquerque a couple of years ago (different class of course). It was nicely finished and a real treat to watch. Walter Hollowell Albuquerque, NM -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of MadMarx Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:47 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Oh oh - Kastner Cup I had one as Matchbox toy car in my box. I didn't know for many years that this car was a real car.....about 10 years ago I learned that they were real. -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Joe Alexander [mailto:n197tr4@cs.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. August 2013 22:39 An: MadMarx Betreff: Re: [Fot] Oh oh - Kastner Cup Yes, and I saw them run when new.......these are "continuation of build" cars. Sent from my iPad On Aug 29, 2013, at 3:36 PM, "MadMarx" wrote: > Just saw on the entry list that one of my favorite cars is there....a > Cheetah :-) _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/walt@hot-tr6.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 29 15:06:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A30B74053E for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:06:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2AEB403B2 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:04:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.28.17]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MSB00F4E97PH730@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for FOT@autox.team.net; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 16:04:38 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "MadMarx" , "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <521C3EE2.5040307@bradakis.com> <001801cea416$f7691d60$e63b5820$@com> <002201cea4f7$734bade0$59e309a0$@com> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 17:04:35 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] Oh oh - Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Will his tires be cheetah slicks? Sorry, it's my warped sense of humor. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "MadMarx" To: "'Friends of Triumph'" Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Oh oh - Kastner Cup > Just saw on the entry list that one of my favorite cars is there....a > Cheetah :-) > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 29 15:28:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABD740536 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:28:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f170.google.com (mail-ie0-f170.google.com [209.85.223.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A17403D9 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:28:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f170.google.com with SMTP id 16so1567272iea.15 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:28:18 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date:content-type :mime-version; bh=ofHvoiJ/LU6KLpwWGbK1NBhRoPZ6FE+y63GMnBT83YM=; b=B65wo9p1iDIIVhf3yQIpvDPB6uTmEMcoLf6aJd/08FgX2IaVyTS2yZhuFagZpS2SCZ gw05FaoVIxVIHpCJmxY3t8zh7swYkHWyO2gzgSZzfslmOQLDZNxjRmQOGA1/FxeYHDg7 uLrhC2ptmpcBRz09E908TSaVH78OuXq7N+a7oW+2UPx/M5f1z5Iey5QQ4fMgtvFASTIw H1VhNRhVGEqfiwse2vNuPEe18iWQhx68jKshXGiNYDenXZijv7Uv77CPfP8t8qaFFDXF HOrf0wx8HxNnrYHNDR93gwiIZB7lx6Jxa7XMAnLKzr9GFapefxNZeyj5v2vCIbQ1LF7u 8pJw== Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:28:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.187 (bda-74-82-80-176.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id x6sm497716igb.3.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:28:17 -0700 (PDT) Sensitivity: Normal To: "MadMarx" ,fot-bounces@autox.team.net,"'Friends of Triumph'" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 21:28:15 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] Oh oh - Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes indeed. I am often the crew chief for that car as the driver is a good friend of mine. You will see both a coupe and a roadster out there. The car is a fearsome beast. The intense torque monster regularly snaps custom made trick corvette axles and other race components... Among other things. I can give you a good tour of the cars with some interesting details. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing ------Original Message------ From: MadMarx To: 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Oh oh - Kastner Cup Sent: Aug 29, 2013 3:36 PM Just saw on the entry list that one of my favorite cars is there....a Cheetah :-) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 29 15:31:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C104240536 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:31:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f173.google.com (mail-ea0-f173.google.com [209.85.215.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2491E403B2; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:31:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f173.google.com with SMTP id g10so519747eak.4 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:31:21 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=fdtlCJgecOGbJa9U+YkbOokyNO+6V0QB9zWanqaHFG8=; b=c4IW4+FOF3cPVeSRltw1xQTWkY38g4wwR7Ez1KM4RKKVs6OFB3aN/likOITX9NMWeF FWGLnRrub4DXR5WSaDSIEri1ILdYPdeiptrbB5l5HEkGP7DusO70azaY1p9AGhA5tiDb fctwglZDDEVaz0LgD8u7rboVyOqo/9gLp2leuXpnGOozOGURX61k4CkYWlbmVc/8tYj0 xj9m2o99uY/RDLkPJJ3FCsWnEgo+ay2QHPsHsmmqMbiCU2hjISvveY42w7CQfYjcSiDc JlEB0YpvoZKiFCAxquJMqA+6N2YPLGw3TEqVnmQI9wXa5H5rc6iHfQ3Y8otE94cplZ2N 2psQ== Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([46.78.81.97]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id t6sm49432698eel.12.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:31:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: , , "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <708197503-1377811696-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-267085273-@b14.c3.bise6.blackberry> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 23:31:19 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6k/q6zzsJBcGn8SzK3Zdomkuy/vwAAFc9w Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Oh oh - Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wow...how cool is that! Would be nice to get some more details about these cars. -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: jason@multivintage.com [mailto:jason@multivintage.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. August 2013 23:28 An: MadMarx; fot-bounces@autox.team.net; 'Friends of Triumph' Betreff: Re: [Fot] Oh oh - Kastner Cup Yes indeed. I am often the crew chief for that car as the driver is a good friend of mine. You will see both a coupe and a roadster out there. The car is a fearsome beast. The intense torque monster regularly snaps custom made trick corvette axles and other race components... Among other things. I can give you a good tour of the cars with some interesting details. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing ------Original Message------ From: MadMarx To: 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Oh oh - Kastner Cup Sent: Aug 29, 2013 3:36 PM Just saw on the entry list that one of my favorite cars is there....a Cheetah :-) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 29 21:44:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 451E34052F for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 21:44:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm26-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm26-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.248]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D1BB403B9 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 21:44:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.178] by nm26.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 2013 03:44:18 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.59] by tm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 2013 03:44:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp210.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 2013 03:44:18 -0000 s=s1024; t=1377834258; bh=BtCUQx8ODUHpN3wrZ6ghwwpwes7gruCvQ83sH8A0ZPQ=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=ffiTb/7QqlQ5x+YfR61qdkEZ4jCvy78Lntc1K8idBT2YrgfoxcIuXHZuBHZ3ogMxVTnvp+cBy0pgPWE94VzyqE1iFC7qIO4x0/j0BNV87u8LW8a04NrxUSnSNcVJPXusUPv167E1PokryiuHdrrsaqH0JAPAN6bLMzB7U/SldzM= pBdQ.LzeCix_puKNxLzCh_hW2CquJORSGfOIvBBoq88GiT9Rl4zX8U5wjIAs 7G4ADJK_vXXEit2LBr.K4BroD9VUa1.qR6c8w2uN6tADxQH_H1cU..KAcKDB oK2qLMmPmiDiEtSJJGoosGWKYRsXJ8byUkeNQnGAala9UIBnwamX_eaLXjN2 L9zd9XqbntzPhcpoZMc7vD1IjKXJ1NEcb4XWb.7_pvNxU2IEPDgEV7vfllI9 5zdW2nCrEypNiDZSs3uKxeTG1yOHb6e0lyovBRchZCG73.nqaAkwUjNouZns ic_JRW4FPIIbZRr.AWoeQMjrUxAjLTK7zN9u3maDTks8T1G4lTtiX26NKDB0 _GMSPQdaQUtD5h8.CNiYUwuLSzhNMsmVlKr1ZIcL71d2LzV_W8Jlj6RsL1Xe B_7epGWw70dRzrO2R1dy9.NgFpo8YpLtI4KOevDJLdqk3XcbznnrFvlR.F5k 3oSOzv.17UlP6eHghZ7QJMUvuxIbDyWw33Vy6O7ipO_aBEbCzoiOjx48LKw3 5yYffQXpITBsnl51E0MG4Av_.qAor3fTE4vHc3A-- with ) by smtp210.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 2013 20:44:18 -0700 PDT References: <1377805062.78019.YahooMailNeo@web160506.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <0A1D0522-11F4-448A-A210-BB92862978A7@cs.com> From: "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 21:44:17 -0600 To: Joe Alexander Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: 89MM head gaskets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Standard Payen AE330 seems to have worked fine for me. Don't cut it...just use as is. Ty Tyler Thompson l National Account Executive - Public Safety Sector esri | One International Court | Broomfield, CO 80021 Phone: 303.449-7779 ext. 1-8260, cell: 719.510-1649 | E-mail: tyler_thompson@esri.com Sent from my iPad (Please excuse any errors or typos) On Aug 29, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Mark Macy of Macy's Garage is looking for a gasket for 89 mm conversion. > > The Protrusion he mentions, I assume to be 3-4 thousandths. > > What do you 89 mm racers use? > > Thanks! > > Sent from my iPad > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Mark Macy >> Date: August 29, 2013, 2:37:42 PM CDT >> To: "n197tr4@cs.com" >> Subject: 89MM head gaskets >> Reply-To: Mark Macy >> >> Hi Joe: >> >> Mark Macy here. I have a question which you might have an answer for. >> >> We're putting together our first 89mm engine, and I'm having difficulty > getting the head gasket to seal. Have not fired the engine yet, but it keeps > leaking water into the oil from the head gasket. Liners stand proud of the > block 3-4mm, and the head was resurfaced. Have tried two of the Moss 89mm > head gaskets and my guess is that the steel rings around the cylinders are not > crushing enough to allow the thin "paper" gasket to seal the rest of the block > and head. Is there a better gasket available, or am I missing something > different entirely? >> >> Cheers, >> Mark > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tylerpthompson@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 29 21:48:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6884D40538 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 21:48:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm26-vm1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm26-vm1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.216.128]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71B14003A for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 21:48:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.137.12.63] by nm26.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 2013 03:48:40 -0000 Received: from [208.71.42.202] by tm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 2013 03:48:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp213.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 2013 03:48:40 -0000 s=s1024; t=1377834520; bh=KR5qtE677Ved1MR2xsfdZXZdk+5MsqwFtJESuaLLUu4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=436cOcvkg0FVfW+Tc11F8edMGaOj2vrqTzSWwaF12/kEKBuatKu72DKQLxR6YFJFuU2axojR5N5pJsq+XPY6yr8EPSeV58dYdm3L1X5EkOjMqvkrDB8mG1oUx0QvMCh6US0QixWxIZSrK+8rh7/WD+mMi/FvHtPF91KvTp1gViQ= OiVR7Isou.IqcyHtuxFAtndd_OW45XlYD2SWavwo9NrKNiLat1pqNUpA2pBM lmrMWTNM2mAI3.fuXcbZUj70c8oTP3OXvKJziYd5Jq3WTWwBHU1qZPhfbYv0 sATOf9fAdhtDxp_lTg2CLSrskF2YVcnVrmVpYikN8s0m50y5SM0tWKIK5ppI lcfmwwxryWMVpVlHcH98EoRa5TadboGeU4W1kNRhimDHLQryYFM9.O7CfwXj eUfz9wieeGcqzOn_MOnYlZ8RRDjPuD27QS8MyrEnDtOFzAjbwaC30jfhKfe. 1aAIDSkeu88i_seZn8yqvmrKMt3Mh5BrdKN2hHje2eekdJIKz03SM7DHid8q UKMuIQ2YJqK3uZJTSchj86gM1OslFTmuvm9jPR5h11cfSeLPArI.N1JWDyRc OSe1EuzO7Vs_lt1jUEqRzr2TXMBwvnnNDuiAbQzdZVjjNOSf0gC_svkZ55bt KdwvU8WEhhCWg7q1kxEe6Kwz0D1tDwdQzAvTRQUs5xur3Ps78CYU2PYS4jRe th7zFsmMAQMvD_GR5vAqSzwdL64zdZpoqaaMRQ0sFhoQZag-- with ) by smtp213.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 2013 03:48:40 +0000 UTC References: <1377805062.78019.YahooMailNeo@web160506.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <0A1D0522-11F4-448A-A210-BB92862978A7@cs.com> <002301cea4f8$6b802d10$42808730$@com> From: "Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com" Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 21:48:38 -0600 To: MadMarx Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: 89MM head gaskets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I recall 3-5 thousands protrusion...Sounds too high... Ty Tyler Thompson l National Account Executive - Public Safety Sector esri | One International Court | Broomfield, CO 80021 Phone: 303.449-7779 ext. 1-8260, cell: 719.510-1649 | E-mail: tyler_thompson@esri.com Sent from my iPad (Please excuse any errors or typos) On Aug 29, 2013, at 2:43 PM, "MadMarx" wrote: > I would say....3-4mm is way too much as this is 0.118"-0.157" > If this is just a point failure and the number is 0.04mm then you should be > okay. > > I always use sealant with the head gasket Locktite 518 + a copper wire > around the sleeves. > > Cheers > Chris > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im > Auftrag von Joe Alexander > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. August 2013 21:47 > An: fot@autox.team.net > Betreff: [Fot] Fwd: 89MM head gaskets > > Mark Macy of Macy's Garage is looking for a gasket for 89 mm conversion. > > The Protrusion he mentions, I assume to be 3-4 thousandths. > > What do you 89 mm racers use? > > Thanks! > > Sent from my iPad > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Mark Macy >> Date: August 29, 2013, 2:37:42 PM CDT >> To: "n197tr4@cs.com" >> Subject: 89MM head gaskets >> Reply-To: Mark Macy >> >> Hi Joe: >> >> Mark Macy here. I have a question which you might have an answer for. >> >> We're putting together our first 89mm engine, and I'm having >> difficulty > getting the head gasket to seal. Have not fired the engine yet, but it > keeps leaking water into the oil from the head gasket. Liners stand proud > of the block 3-4mm, and the head was resurfaced. Have tried two of the Moss > 89mm head gaskets and my guess is that the steel rings around the cylinders > are not crushing enough to allow the thin "paper" gasket to seal the rest of > the block and head. Is there a better gasket available, or am I missing > something different entirely? >> >> Cheers, >> Mark > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tylerpthompson@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 30 05:05:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4302440536 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 05:05:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.wave1.net (unknown [74.219.105.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BCBE40356 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 05:05:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [74.219.99.119] by mail.wave1.net (ArGoSoft Mail Server .NET v.1.0.8.3) with ESMTP (EHLO mtmPC); Fri, 30 Aug 2013 06:57:00 -0400 From: "Mike Moore" To: "'Joe Alexander'" , References: <04AE1FE6-4293-4AE3-BC3B-B448FC7C33E2@cs.com> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 06:55:27 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6k99PxvhgZ/zglRfCLE2k2IoIx9QAd5Jcg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Mad Marx Caliper Brake Seal Kits Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net What is expensive?? Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Alexander Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 4:37 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Mad Marx Caliper Brake Seal Kits I asked him to bring some kits along with him. Sean just installed some on the TR4 and was very impressed. But he has not run them yet. Chris has great reports on his own personal use. There is a second seal that helps keep the debris out of the piston area. The OEM style dust covers burn away.....these won't. They are expensive but you get what you pay for. He will bring in his luggage for you if you speak up. Just let me know.....No profit margins here. Just trying to facilitate distributing an improved product. You can look at them and refuse, of course. Joe A _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore@wave1.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 30 07:30:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D77340539 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 07:30:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm24-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.246]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA44C40333 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 07:30:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.101.131] by nm24.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 2013 13:30:15 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.57] by tm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 2013 13:30:15 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp208.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Aug 2013 13:30:15 -0000 s=s1024; t=1377869415; bh=UH95H1hr71qZxNa6sUArgkUITBo68q7DywSu0DUKsBA=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Message-ID:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:MIME-Version:To:From:Subject:Date:Content-Type; b=OkcUp8PvMvWuFopTOrMy+pW+m7qZyuOhBxoABWjX9u0+jjjkBEHMyasJIJRtUwtqN2p5ER0gOxoDLNDRQhSSUiM4YmYUcmw1AEqRecAs9klPNRyXvxqJJr29LV7AmuImNLLq8OCPfFy09xlLZRceE5uePnWHkHTxRVcNtT+U71A= 9RFyYnphBFTbH56yx2fhGB4rlX0EH2bGHTqMW_3wnmdZpb.yQ849UGPqmKIH UdfCDbiN5U8WdzDx6gRi6FQKRqXovMQF.N1CuQlpgZxwe5BlNS0G9cu0qyd4 9Cbh8pNQkBH.kpI3s61_zrrRH2yXN7brZMp3My89VGtakvflKcSCNcuH7WeO lblS2NExf2cS99_zZetdVPVuTf8_YCAgGferbk733iq3sqeEziWfQrvTRKEC HnQy4Axra6u2AVzQ90STESED_GPWRlPNJ.5gma9Gr9XOyYBTIGdi8kjo3hU_ 82FevJsfPWPL_vYz0kzqdWnyjyo5HeoI80j7mpEtJD4MbAMVMJrABsUDwfZj 2JaBQKhWEBm6RuwguYS4GnrYlWcoWnkcG7YJYn6I_4hGTjhQOHOsybW.Ftbq i8ij5mp2aXkyhS.HAFjvGXxT02KI7IIPqScbj25qWvhwAl.p43lh6pvmJsW_ bI.bsdV5JO2KHowZS1BVOULRdMildIT7v_yxQpQ-- by smtp208.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 2013 06:30:15 -0700 PDT To: fot From: Dennis DeLap Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 08:29:53 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Who's Birthday Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Today.p _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 30 07:38:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1DA040554 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 07:38:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail168c2.megamailservers.com (mail168c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7478B40382; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 07:38:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail168c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r7UDcJ9a018817; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 09:38:24 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: , , "'MadMarx'" , "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <521C3EE2.5040307@bradakis.com> <001801cea416$f7691d60$e63b5820$@com> <001201cea4e6$7fa9f080$7efdd180$@com> <1104365152-1377802882-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1261092490-@b14.c3.bise6.blackberry> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 09:38:19 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6k6iy5B+MUWS00TAmOJYzmnyQBYQAm6bHg a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=b4TgfONAAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=eVKCJ0HsAAAA:20 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=-ZsTibNsI89EXpYx2_cA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=kp3uRgNowesA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=G2VO1zPXzpWk2Yq4:21 a=ZXwWZd_6fOOYSrGP:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] Donington Park Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Good Grief! Here we have an example of what can happen to an otherwise healthy mind when exposed to GT6's and Chicago! See ya in a few days Jason...... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: jason@multivintage.com [mailto:jason@multivintage.com] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 3:01 PM To: john hasty; fot-bounces@autox.team.net; 'MadMarx'; 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Donington Park Likely, about the same time I was building hot wheels tracks. I distinctly remember having to remove the "loops" from my friends tracks before I would race my cars on their tracks. I had to explain that such "loops" were FAKE and would never be seen on a real race track. It made me angry that some goofy Mattel toy creator kept trying to push this nonsense of tracks with sections where the cars could drive upside down. The guy had probably never even seen a road race. What an idiot. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "john hasty" To: 'MadMarx'; 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Donington Park AH.....fond memories. We were there twice with the bikes, once before the loop after the Dunlop bridge was built and once after...... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of MadMarx Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:35 PM To: 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: [Fot] Donington Park I currently prepare the videos from the last weekend. This is a short view on a Qualy session. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCqhHlPzdvs Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 30 07:39:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37E94054D for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 07:39:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f175.google.com (mail-ie0-f175.google.com [209.85.223.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D383640544 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 07:38:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f175.google.com with SMTP id u16so3302209iet.34 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 06:38:44 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:reply-to:references:in-reply-to :sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date:content-type :mime-version; bh=IwKRtU5QCBuTGgbCPdVtYLBl50loveRbIWOPIT/ikT8=; b=TQ1DKkM8yq728eoF0WPuREW8C7h3gKJKACc3IBd/b1n0CmSFffnrAdC8BlM6IHf+ln WEwQ5Zu/wGmEMDhXIgGEnYHGOGVJTXvlYLAHnlfwxoMVqL9agYl4V01bknVtuwPetKkx 5J9kLvHaJibmI9mpg4hfespNx8EMlFck+R75xZGmoeQCfSPCQRWtTVjlX1ekIWpa2VZk czTwKN1YYbIh/3eRWjBGI7KyN8gfoDAx/qPn+tWpCC96EX149K91vBeN9zC+xzg4BvOs G78Fczmte4aSrlbruXWd9DFTSVA3cDoVsyrYuo3GyqbKPiCBaMs0A7LeRDO+U/YGWUCS q7Tw== qc8mr2370075igb.52.1377869924712; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 06:38:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.187 (bda-74-82-80-176.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id oq3sm3990113igb.1.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 30 Aug 2013 06:38:44 -0700 (PDT) References: <606916.52808.bm@smtp208.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Sensitivity: Normal To: "Dennis DeLap" ,fot-bounces@autox.team.net,"fot" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 13:38:42 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] Who's Birthday Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net OUR HERO! Happy birthday KAS! Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Dennis DeLap To: fot Subject: [Fot] Who's Birthday Today.p _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 30 08:26:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D1C4053F for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 08:26:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail168c2.megamailservers.com (mail168c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA7B403B1 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 08:26:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail168c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r7UEQJfC023561; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 10:26:25 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: "'MadMarx'" , "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <521C3EE2.5040307@bradakis.com><001801cea416$f7691d60$e63b5820$@com><001201cea4e6$7fa9f080$7efdd180$@com> <001c01cea4f2$ff3705c0$fda51140$@com> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 10:26:21 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6k5PDQtDRkjTKHSPq/52jrMbaRfQAAWlnQAABC7bAAAuNMQAAmcM1Q a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=mKVN2qmsAAAA:20 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=htRFm-vYhne46I6Q2YAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=nuZSHnfQ6yiy-nlf:21 a=efSEAxApH3nVWcg4:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] Donington Park Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Gee,,,,after looking at video the Dunlap bridge is gone and you were not using the "new" loop that goes behind the garages John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of MadMarx Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 4:05 PM To: 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Donington Park And Race 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0hxFn0up-Q&feature=youtu.be _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 30 08:27:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1AD84054D for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 08:27:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E212F40517 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 08:27:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.36]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id K1Qc1m0020mlR8UAB2Tps2; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 14:27:49 +0000 Received: from Bud ([67.164.120.205]) by omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id K2Tn1m00w4RzRTX8X2Tou2; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 14:27:48 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: , "'Dennis DeLap'" , , "'fot'" References: <606916.52808.bm@smtp208.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20130830133941.4153E40557@autox.team.net> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 07:19:42 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6lhocIHcAOZ9M3SfmZRXKhd7zgEAABVx8w Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1377872869; bh=beQ18ZXkow1r3VN/G8FhxExzfDvtSupePxfpDpgzRM4=; h=Received:Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=g8qkRIFqpHfW+zzO1yCaz1rsgvRtUeM8GuIQFgNmj3dcdjcfHszruTp+dF8N/4Z7L SnDKDqD65mYrFWjyme/VWGrw2s0obhIvn63FoxnZmODkJNEn7GzrakY0wk9+j/4+SF H2X8aS+ClfiLGGRrUfobPCfA0cAYaPDw65amotODXE2E5TSKAg1DHLOk0XTAIioMGn 9trxIJwXPSzT+s7DCizLMACftrD9i+Ia0hcGbHwU2ucMalouTbFVMTUKBsb+vKFvVa l3gqlYJYI9rH2C8cf7raoKcn0CRRGWgzNVZOiRFcWmCDWkyfsyOP/0TfH3nuHcb9rj JEdCnYTr2ErcQ== Subject: Re: [Fot] Who's Birthday Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net HAPPY BIRTHDAY KAS! RB -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of jason@multivintage.com Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 6:39 AM To: Dennis DeLap; fot-bounces@autox.team.net; fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Who's Birthday OUR HERO! Happy birthday KAS! Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Dennis DeLap To: fot Subject: [Fot] Who's Birthday Today.p _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 30 08:38:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25EC64054D for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 08:38:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f171.google.com (mail-ob0-f171.google.com [209.85.214.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02D1A4052A for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 08:38:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f171.google.com with SMTP id tb18so1948529obb.2 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 07:38:22 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rdFh+0k+I6G94a5Qp57GAKyCzOa1fIbsWjX226vLn88=; b=ZALA2eExf7czupF7aGvUHrehjGwcM98dn3h14BoyMnEs4iguayfw5gUH1LSiBvl2EZ Xy1bE1z7MvCWA0m/ltdveIQZ20HtjWLDFcmEELTcuhpdEl13BSXCxbc6PXian9xZP7BI f/7Pj0GbhkiJJm+xB+RpAyiAXd6Z3yN5hasDuJh5xLYZTB5Wc+jqzBzj3sSWxip104V0 uRoA0Ev51i5JKyjaW0aKAWLPQfbRcvrjlfWwz01ej/0QIzOZtAIATF31ykdgkvD9xc/H /K8Gji3+SwxJT58PUUzZ7OWt8O/NnsTyh7HC4k0397e3MGMRF0oa0rpnMXa9WhJlOM9b rUag== vi8mr7209703obb.27.1377873502886; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 07:38:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (24-121-172-242.npg.sta.suddenlink.net. [24.121.172.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id uz16sm37289437obc.5.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 30 Aug 2013 07:38:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 07:38:19 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <20130828193916.CA12040436@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] Drill Bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 8/28/13 2:04 PM, Michael Haberthur wrote: > Try not to drill your thumb. It can make it very difficult to use your > pants fly. Not many friends are willing to help you with it either. .... A lot depends upon how cute he is and if he is eligible. Had a friend in school who was finishing off his phd. We were taking in his garage while he was working on a small wood project. He was sitting and placed a board on his thighs then proceeded to drill through the board into this thigh. I guess it is the kind of thing that otherwise brilliant people do. I presume you belong to a religion that requires a blood sacrifice prior to a race. Now that that is done why not tell everyone on the list what size cooler you are looking for. Someone may have one on a shelf. And please, enough blood spilled. TeriAnn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 30 12:24:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBD440552 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 12:24:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d03.mx.aol.com (omr-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E81B403B1 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 12:24:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.198]) by omr-d03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 2BE14700000AA for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 14:24:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id B5422E000114 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 14:24:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 13:24:30 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377887083; bh=0pwJDc1N5eFiIjmM9pxgxaNfjdyxGH1IBQVbhgQBa6Y=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=UVG0hhIdIVtC52AbEAthzXb+s+MVIPpJ47J7itDcDCzT3aM4LBmPf2MWsdEHrjXuu /3IP0Ec4239CziZTPPaNlF44spG1C7S5EvURHaN5UvDfQ8LImtSBBbBlhfDeGGOXbQ iGrVuPYzyTcfeVC/BLAsVxX4cxTylgdJ6UqP+98Y= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c65220e36a3508 Subject: [Fot] 10 day weather forecast for Kastner Cup-Friday/Saturday/Sunday Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Perfection at 10 Day Forecast 74 degrees daytime 54 degrees nighttime Clear to Partly Cloudy Wind 10 MPH 0-20% Chance of Rain thru this period. Perfection is a good place to start......... Joe A Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 30 12:34:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B3314054E for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 12:34:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com (omr-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575D34032A for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 12:34:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.133]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A391C700F2189 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 14:34:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (adsl-75-3-202-112.dsl.sndg02.sbcglobal.net [75.3.202.112]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 0E41FE00011E; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 14:34:47 -0400 (EDT) References: <34F0AA03-9FBD-4A9E-8525-9EF3100EE4CC@cs.com> From: Chuck Gee Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 11:34:45 -0700 To: Joe Alexander x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377887687; bh=K5ckwnIq6JQjKUZRux1nxhp7JqSgEbjOWQoRFm6owY4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=LomiAx1EMjaaVMzHqXAz7Hp5TqaZamcMo0IPYhHR7H2TlahJ40JBIyGzp4RCWBrkC S9ba4C+OmAlg7y8aBARQlhsIDE+TKJQk6H6JBjH70wsaXDCamNN+rWcDD8Cqimr6WH 5nNDMmJQ0BJP+WiRtqLSFdP+BBOx5LFa4aXJoWsY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33855220e5c62f00 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] 10 day weather forecast for Kastner Cup-Friday/Saturday/Sunday Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Perfection would be a zero chance of rain, but I'll take it! Chuck On Aug 30, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Perfection at 10 Day Forecast > > 74 degrees daytime > 54 degrees nighttime > > Clear to Partly Cloudy > > Wind 10 MPH > > 0-20% Chance of Rain thru this period. > > Perfection is a good place to start......... > > Joe A > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 30 12:42:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14044053D for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 12:42:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com (mx2.netinteraction.com [174.143.201.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF52F40396 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 12:42:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTP id E28A3F4403A for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 11:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ooo7DGmEpxw2 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 11:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com (75-128-248-175.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com [75.128.248.175]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTPA id C1291F44084 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 11:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 13:42:11 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net From: Peter Caldwell References: <34F0AA03-9FBD-4A9E-8525-9EF3100EE4CC@cs.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] 10 day weather forecast for Kastner Cup-Friday/Saturday/Sunday Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I hope we get some rain beforehand. Gettin' crispy around here. Peter C in Madison.... 2 hours West ==== At 01:24 PM 8/30/2013, Joe Alexander wrote: >Perfection at 10 Day Forecast > >74 degrees daytime >54 degrees nighttime > >Clear to Partly Cloudy > >Wind 10 MPH > >0-20% Chance of Rain thru this period. > >Perfection is a good place to start......... > >Joe A >Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 30 12:46:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E17A940560 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 12:46:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A0B400AD for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 12:46:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f54.google.com with SMTP id e53so1103808eek.13 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 11:46:25 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=wAMvoGrjP691eYqTkQ5kZwsUKf3ZHmgO3lFLpJSqsVs=; b=cVqQztPlCLk500xiLBqbA6N+jbvje+4TINBhi/9H82+dNb7I7G6OpW53bMj2OrgJ/B xXDR1a4AHA9rjWIDMn0P3curK3qJij1fNydUnYlD2U4gdsQy6GjlWFYWYQ0WZdeV16DK h6bhhZ/onrq8WB34tq22WM0Osvl/VE9Q00YQwQYztBZL9Aoab+FB3lrGFIy8vi9qf6Bv O+VHNj1GVtKrKFTxK2S435Z2eWnFMBv1MHR6B4Sl3m1mLlJceM/gcuezW7IMSo8CG7Bu 6iMZc/fwhUJsqvs5bbMdH6Ho2dVwkhK3weVkZpRHa/WOtpHih+80Jp9m23/O1Da1yUmD nCow== c4mr14941550eev.2.1377888385042; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 11:46:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([46.78.75.210]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id k7sm56916675eeg.13.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 30 Aug 2013 11:46:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <34F0AA03-9FBD-4A9E-8525-9EF3100EE4CC@cs.com> <20130830184212.E28A3F4403A@mx2.netinteraction.com> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 20:46:24 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6lsLKgBVq359LSQtSqThOBNML9MQAAHDVQ Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] 10 day weather forecast for Kastner Cup-Friday/Saturday/Sunday Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I would feel comfort with rain too. But as a tourist I prefer dry. -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Peter Caldwell Gesendet: Freitag, 30. August 2013 20:42 An: fot@autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] 10 day weather forecast for Kastner Cup-Friday/Saturday/Sunday I hope we get some rain beforehand. Gettin' crispy around here. Peter C in Madison.... 2 hours West ==== At 01:24 PM 8/30/2013, Joe Alexander wrote: >Perfection at 10 Day Forecast > >74 degrees daytime >54 degrees nighttime > >Clear to Partly Cloudy > >Wind 10 MPH > >0-20% Chance of Rain thru this period. > >Perfection is a good place to start......... > >Joe A >Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 30 15:36:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487B4403C7 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 15:36:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp08.bis6.us.blackberry.com (smtp08.bis6.us.blackberry.com [74.82.85.8]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E0C40356 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 15:35:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from b25.c8.bise6.blackberry ([192.168.0.125]) by srs.bis6.us.blackberry.com (8.13.7 TEAMON/8.13.7) with ESMTP id r7ULUerY011007 for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 21:35:50 GMT Sensitivity: Normal To: "FOT" From: gasket.works@gte.net Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 21:35:48 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Kastner's birthday Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Happy birthday Mr. Kas.. Enjoy your special dinner with Mrs Peggy.! Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 30 17:15:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060754053D for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 17:15:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bosmailout01.eigbox.net (bosmailout01.eigbox.net [66.96.186.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 299C940324 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 15:06:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bosmailscan08.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.8]) by bosmailout01.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1VEmwk-0001CY-5E for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 17:06:34 -0400 Received: from bosimpout03.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.3]) by bosmailscan08.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1VEmwj-0001ce-Qx for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 17:06:33 -0400 Received: from bosauthsmtp06.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.6]) by bosimpout03.eigbox.net with NO UCE id JLqQ1m00B07rX7u01LqQnz; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 16:50:24 -0400 a=Z/iyfutoV/OUUWbxX14Mlw==:17 a=BQnC9ElagkEA:10 a=oZfs261O0nkA:10 a=DrRCb7plzq8A:10 a=GIUMEBREz7DXNpcGKxAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Qxw_EE3TZYEA:10 a=r5VbHcKM9ZoA:10 a=b8Y8ZH6U5GRI0dq3EsAA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=yViSiJrRScTIQRTU:21 a=fIc3/5IyPUehxkj7BpkQ7Q==:117 Received: from [173.219.77.9] (helo=zap6) by bosauthsmtp06.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1VEmwj-0005jc-Om for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 17:06:33 -0400 From: "Robert MacKenzie" To: "'FoT Triumph'" Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 16:06:24 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac6kMnQ/inp3v4DDTrim4RnWQy2G5w== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] CVAR @ TWS - Grage space neede for two cars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Who has garage space booked fot CVAR @TWS? Do you have space for two additional cars? Robert MacKenzie _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 30 17:16:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43CF40550 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 17:16:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFDF40403 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 21:18:05 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=gG5DQpUNAaww/Kr6tJL+rA==:17 a=zgvILx03LV0A:10 a=yTAvzboUAF8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=NZrl0-K7yLgA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=-UohoW_lrg5983_63P8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=gG5DQpUNAaww/Kr6tJL+rA==:117 Received: from [70.112.94.250] ([70.112.94.250:60956] helo=[192.168.1.105]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id CB/09-21526-C6DBE125; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 03:18:04 +0000 References: <003501cea434$ed0e6000$c72b2000$@aero> From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 22:18:04 -0500 To: Robert MacKenzie Cc: Bob Kramer , Piers Gormly , William Collins , FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] CVAR @ TWS - Grage space neede for two cars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I am in 34 I think. Most of The Triumphs are in the spots from the middle of the north side of garage 2 to the west end. I am positive we can squeeze you in. Who is the second? On Aug 28, 2013, at 4:24 PM, "Robert MacKenzie" wrote: > Who has garage space booked fot CVAR @TWS? Do you have space for two > additional cars? > > Robert MacKenzie > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 30 18:34:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C859403E4 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 18:34:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm20-vm2.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm20-vm2.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.113]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29957403B1 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 18:34:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.161] by nm20.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2013 00:34:29 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.97] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2013 00:34:29 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp117.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2013 00:34:29 -0000 s=s1024; t=1377909269; bh=GhVnawJcVC9S7F8PVUdDjYFyvJpXDLz7Mzya8FGVe0k=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:Content-Type:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To:Mime-Version:X-Mailer; b=Jtd2H/Qv9+s1BQPCDBJVL1y9YPEZ7NV59QwKaZbvHAmOfm8kRHAOL2IuV94rELNrWM4G7CsDGDatA5P/MASCZWaLYcMoN65/6Tk6yNiZm5Ngp+sWRmy0FEHCG/QtJe2G17SWdPYWOZHpjTL9dt+ZIfb9mKe4+Do2hBkLoKasV2w= s768kastoVeXLZOxrJ0QTigpohw0sFfdeTpCw313Tg8KZDr4nc9NaBG2vcHU M_lEZpZ4vZbTscIL9o9TiYzXiWz9dtWpUUHx88h4rX2gQHKtLScVq4rRPR3Y 60MOpJF61wBwe9pbTDLqTSz_2V5CMY6c1LDdjNC.35.oJTmc4Qh3qXmfIh8o k9.k18di689Uq.PU6XRQqePmL2XENtI4.PYkQJ75m4QRuXJ4nFCjj4bcWHPI HC4twDL8a5gF02Rittil4F90d1c4WlcBV2Iu05h6Br4.4lfULi_Zi7PYj_zg nBEA6biycVTqDDJTmQtI7ls_2iHkuNN1gAKY5CQ6xt7k6N0HvUeyYvpJp0Fe L3CcDYQOx3rOJHamTNvIyeTb1cf3_PeQVFTGcVOTZfOV9GNkigCU.w8twZ8l hSmjA4n7_C2vwHnarfDSZ4eB.Qibir32Z.KL9A2WHNv0CCAfsl_hz.6nCxyv XFIgfOJ6ByrpgkM_m7mUM plain) by smtp117.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Aug 2013 00:34:29 +0000 UTC From: Andrew Packard Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 17:34:23 -0700 To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] FOT Badges -- STILL AVAILABLE!!! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Amici! By now, if you didn't buy an FOT badge you need to be prepared for your envy at the sight of your fellow FOT'ers sporting their spotless new badges. But, you're in luck because I still have 37 to sell! We've covered our costs plus a little but still need to continue the sales in order to earn enough for the seat belts in our TR4 Lemons race car project. If you are interested, simply send paypal $ to apackard68@att.net. Price is $6 for the first badge and $5 for each badge after that. If you would like to pay by check, make it payable to SilverScreen Triumph and mail to: 56 Hagen Oaks Ct, Alamo, CA 94507. Get them before they're gone! Andy Packard _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 30 19:50:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF1F940551 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 19:50:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s21.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s21.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BEB3403C8 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 19:50:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W37 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s21.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 30 Aug 2013 18:50:32 -0700 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 21:50:31 -0400 FILETIME=[7A28C440:01CEA5EC] Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup shirts and other ramblings. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Looks like I will have around 120 shirts to go from my hands to yours at the track. I plan on arriving early afternoon on Thursday and setting up a delivery station in the garages. I would like to make as many of these go away as possible on Thursday so I can be done with them and focus on fun stuff. I'll be there with the white #8 Spitfire so look me up. Joe had mentioned he had some awesome CD's to play during our evening social hours if somebody had a boom box. I don't have a boom box but I have a pretty decent set of wireless speakers that I use in the shop. I will pack those and bring them along. We will just need something to play the CD's on. If somebody has something bring it. The wireless speaker transmitter just needs to plug into a headphone jack. I also plan on packing the Keurig coffee maker I use in the shop and a stack of cups so we can have coffee in the garages if wanted. So if anybody wants to bring along some of the little coffee containers used in the Keurig machines to share that would be great. Last but not least, car stuff. I spent Monday evening and this evening playing on a dyno. Monday to figure out just how out of whack things were and tonight to tune the carbs using the needles that arrive today. I ended up with 79.6 hp and 73.3 ft/lbs of torque at 7000 rpm. I'm sure that's way under the rest of you but I managed to gain 14.2 HP by just playing with the A/F mixture and I'm thrilled with that. I have to do some tweaking to the needles to get it to run under 4000 rpm this weekend yet but I'm going to try. I went from way too lean needles to a little too rich needles but at least I have a baseline now. I'm excited to get on track with it next Friday!. See you next week, _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 30 20:54:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987434053D for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 20:54:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d06.mx.aol.com (omr-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7690403B1 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 20:54:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by omr-d06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 988CF70000098 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 22:54:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dec003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dec003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.53.201]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 71D6DE00008A for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 22:54:36 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net From: robertten1@aol.com Received: from 96.233.64.253 by webmail-d300.sysops.aol.com (205.188.93.228) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 30 Aug 2013 22:54:36 -0400 Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 22:54:36 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377917676; bh=/9g9roAh3lV7OpTAsAl1W7BX1YeNlhKSgxcIQcpihDY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GmmhucB/jEcx5r5fq8AHlpt+6IcPD6g/ITpeHb8//XdNtkQwQDtrutnzrUA2t42jN hMH/6diQ7d6woDiePCT0/Fa9eNWCvOzEn/nq6IP747rAvO0dinOAyquS5Sz8NfuC9q n+jy+5orB5Xh6/464JFKvjbT9XaRyuxHQFkpLqNM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c52215aec6956 Subject: [Fot] Kas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Happy Happy Kas, hope you day is a Triumphant one ! Cheers, Bob T '64 Spit GT autocrosser _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 30 21:30:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C06044054A for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 21:30:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm21-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm21-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.114]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43007403B1 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 21:30:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.53] by nm21.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2013 03:30:42 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.175] by tm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2013 03:30:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1086.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2013 03:30:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 95991 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Aug 2013 03:30:42 -0000 s=s1024; t=1377919842; bh=MzuY3wX1hrahuGQ7ZwwvRx4wSsLPxgVteXU3bBtgUiA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GhYvTafO1jlI2dsO9x/P3tSFadZdwqgVBbFWfg3WuBs/Vd1MxhffdEH+wyEBMjAsv/DwGyA+A5vyVWWCNfW6xEXV7cSYsJhCMeTkECvAE9c+WM0ZaSfIco1RD2j03DY1RBnjPjUGWnIoGnw3/X7j+7NBtTx04piqIyKTbULRepw= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3N/RybXGHVz7wEnUcjN7jdOWRPaVJudQyWUNt2NK4YixW/gAvD9dDj51ttvGmyB369Sv8blwrouhbOwcdRSDfFsdRQHTLWR2PnSOgTclcBhoJTUCpvM8CWCoRHPwDmyJroAoF0pA10r7e88D/yODX8dFC1PefyMwNABho/82Nro=; m2ROS5IWTos2lkJVeMJaF5Lt7JSn2cogLY.zkqo7hgz3HUw256rIoIte9rlW vBuWEw1NehaKipi6j1diLMXzO9Lr5JMNwqZq.l9PMDX7W4eJsojSkdQxyHH2 pWljbGWhgGuCYqq4nD4QX0kQjLA.cm4Q3GTFqtjJ6sCMlX9.yUrRsY5WMnrC GpzaFYdAfQn5chMUfQJ.c6_t7mVRLCrJChDTgArRx7d3qTpYzvvYdm65SlGY sgwgPzj.GP6tKOZXK_9p81bQ1iKpi.DKIzdel.QigNhjV.biPTrcLShnjCMa 111U37P2HHmZyUncoARPrc.LhiLN7PnJUsXfEja3XRxxxNgJeO.C7pMTHprj H24VJwzid.mTQz3ZUkY4.UWfUCdD5kriRNEI7y3QIQyz1F.NQzDJyD7Fl13J 8YITT.F24tuG_oNbSQcPoRa3v61FgCCFUYl3GxeW95MI72B2F1HY5l7vA213 ac.SYMa.T6uq0D5RuuMXgt77GQFC8kzp2ArHW2Co6BxV6oUgqaAfKIy70_nY V28e2caFEn_Zg_GUqulvyc.UDnV.OWhyCwrvmQksozmRzFRNwekP6IHEI9vq ttt_1eSfx83LAF688RuhowsVW5DqadF2tcWrvWqzzjTN.c4stfwc9EyUuyrN 77NrwK4Ux6xNw57w1vUMZh6xC0vTS.oGAXRPa.EAfCdsJYNkebeTaM0IProp _qGlxe90ewRa..4brZLC_jSgvS7EDyA-- Received: from [67.3.79.239] by web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 20:30:42 PDT aHR0cDovL3d3dy5zaGVib3lnYW5wcmVzcy5jb20vYXJ0aWNsZS8yMDEzMDgyOS9TSEUwNC8zMDgyOTAxOTAvQS1ibGFzdC1mcm9tLXBhc3QtTmVhcmx5LTMwMC1jYXJzLXNjaGVkdWxlZC10YWtlLXBhcnQtRWxraGFydC1MYWtlLVZpbnRhZ2UtRmVzdGl2YWwKCgpKdXN0IHdhbnRlZCB0byBzaGFyZS4uLgoKU2hhd24gRnJhbmsKATABAQEB Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 20:30:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Shawn Frank To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] KCup article in Sheboygan Press Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net http://www.sheboyganpress.com/article/20130829/SHE04/308290190/A-blast-from-past-Nearly-300-cars-scheduled-take-part-Elkhart-Lake-Vintage-Festival Just wanted to share... Shawn Frank _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 31 08:56:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA6240E01 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 08:56:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEEFD403F9 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 08:56:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.134]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7E1CD7000008E; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 10:56:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 3FFEDE000105; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 10:56:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 09:56:15 -0500 To: "fot@autox.team.net" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377960977; bh=5vR4G9tHErAhJwW3JHsLf1Gm2XLRtVq/oEEDFSpUpGg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=yOHZx5YFWDW/zyvKG4wA0El03ytrPe7k9yVVvejjVXhe5DQyd1EL5HTNQWNEY7S0M XdT/GiiAOadAZElF4WpEIS5+ajhGmUyuX3bptviOSqwqspRNW3KqvGDIaISk6BzlQE Tmjjsa+8TgZbUyUnT/1AoY7a9KzYJFeHUlsZu+6E= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d3386522204111b75 Cc: deb korneli Subject: [Fot] Germany And The USA. 60 years of Competition Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In the early 50s we had three Americans thrashing around Germany with their Triumphs. These three will be at Road America next week. Dan Fowler First American to win a championship at Nurburgring in a TR2. Robert Johns Triumph Factory Driver....which included co-drive with Mike Rothschild at 12 Hours of Sebring Mr. Maguire. AKA as "Mr. Triumph" in Des Moines. He drove his TR in Germany, raced it in SCCA in the US, and then restored it. It will be at GOG and Road America. Wait! There's more..... Christian Marx is coming to America from Germany and will be racing in two different Triumphs, to show us how a German drives a Triumph. And he will do very well. I am not sure what this all means, but I find it very cool. I AM sure these 70 something TR Pilots will hanging on the fence at Turn 5 watching Chris drive. No pressure here, eh, Chris? There will be stories like this all weekend. See you there....... Joe A _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 31 09:09:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB2740E19 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 09:09:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E2FE40550 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 09:09:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id KT7E1m0070b6N64A2T9LZ5; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 15:09:20 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id KT9K1m00L2yr1eL8PT9KYg; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 15:09:19 +0000 Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 15:09:19 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Friends of Triumph s=q20121106; t=1377961760; bh=D74vbZ6xaDfTaZsRY3Mdza6VGHUlIEfVJCo3u19aNJU=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=QtY3NrcA+AdoG0X7vryfD9x8GxVY5a7tJwZXZc4HKgsJ8t/nmnzlS2SILIRFkQuQt FGI3VMcNWhnOi2BoyQ3HYlosvoPLeo0cn8iiuvfaznWlZfYw6zNQcnth/aPypbbbQ9 S+8bTLytYhIwUeW5EEOxcYvQSyPMV+/N6q135+JDcW0e2AQZBRZ/0wcfwjaFNIKRvc dWfZKP8udUbOB78ef9oLkWcLU4aM0Ww2O84ydg0nk9hfylF0RwOwL75b2GCn6dEes/ GpUoMPvDDyQqE9zwFTQX4jC7eXueeAIA4vqnHsn3m4ihctYyXft+4wds119szQ8QXl vBfS4wKgFkKIA== Subject: [Fot] Milwaukee airport to Osthoff ride? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, I have a shuttle ride reserved from Milwaukee airport to the Osthoff Inn on Wednesday afternoon and I just thought I'd check with the group to see if anyone is driving through the area that I could hitch a ride with. I'd be happy to provide fuel funds for the trip and it would be more fun traveling with friends. My flight arrives at 2:15 in the afternoon. Thanks, Dave _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 31 09:23:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9C640E30 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 09:23:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail176c2.megamailservers.com (mail176c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF01F4055F for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 09:23:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.245.15.175] (93.sub-174-237-6.myvzw.com [174.237.6.93]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail176c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r7VFNYbO024810 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 31 Aug 2013 11:23:40 -0400 References: <2012737613.2510480.1377961759683.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> From: John Hasty Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 11:23:31 -0400 To: davehogye a=HRTxZHaCkiUA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dYvKuL+JU7S0rKBqCYSJlw==:17 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=nepKQAuoQLFG1W0fkqAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=dYvKuL+JU7S0rKBqCYSJlw==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Milwaukee airport to Osthoff ride? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I get there around 11:00am Thu anyone needing a ride around noon let me know. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 31, 2013, at 11:09 AM, davehogye wrote: > Hello Friends, > I have a shuttle ride reserved from Milwaukee airport to the Osthoff Inn on Wednesday afternoon and I just thought I'd check with the group to see if anyone is driving through the area that I could hitch a ride with. I'd be happy to provide fuel funds for the trip and it would be more fun traveling with friends. My flight arrives at 2:15 in the afternoon. > > > Thanks, > Dave > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 31 12:25:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456ED40419 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 12:25:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f173.google.com (mail-ea0-f173.google.com [209.85.215.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610C1403D4 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 12:20:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f173.google.com with SMTP id g10so1521448eak.4 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 11:20:48 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=+MzxKC7xJ1YALPKpr8A1HSLME6RRFcawO8ySmim4bwk=; b=mtkORZ1g6f4rVWTa622vQO+VY6BCpdJQ484TARO9JrKGhNNPyZZnH2r2R/x+xeAlOg EffoR7I4FEYhndKEtRbJIC8b5ELMN2PmQ2pdGLs310BXPiMmtf3iMVTSnFtdbpbMuSDW d/PdUGZXdVY37zgnMD9WSemGe71GC0sqM1vep70CxVKZQEiMHEbmpxtpXIRMMg1IUmdY JsHxsRByTM3sKpSuaIHRk145aEkcDK53/DyWLuKuZjSXcQvNY9pfh5pnSfUIR1JMsLni zV1bx+4nkozH11FcNPz4rXMd0szr39ucAwgwIyCdvKtorfdml9yIh2Kd1+FxZH+8k2jv BhwA== d47mr21975287eem.14.1377973248382; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 11:20:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([46.78.75.210]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r48sm6985300eev.14.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 31 Aug 2013 11:20:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Joe Alexander'" , References: <94979258-D526-419E-938F-2FE7757993E7@cs.com> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 20:20:50 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6mWk0I3NfZwaECT0m3e9dttIxSigAHGYEQ Content-Language: de Cc: 'deb korneli' Subject: Re: [Fot] Germany And The USA. 60 years of Competition Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Well, now I'm under pressure. And I thought it would be a relaxed weekend ;-) Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Joe Alexander Gesendet: Samstag, 31. August 2013 16:56 An: fot@autox.team.net Cc: deb korneli Betreff: [Fot] Germany And The USA. 60 years of Competition In the early 50s we had three Americans thrashing around Germany with their Triumphs. These three will be at Road America next week. Dan Fowler First American to win a championship at Nurburgring in a TR2. Robert Johns Triumph Factory Driver....which included co-drive with Mike Rothschild at 12 Hours of Sebring Mr. Maguire. AKA as "Mr. Triumph" in Des Moines. He drove his TR in Germany, raced it in SCCA in the US, and then restored it. It will be at GOG and Road America. Wait! There's more..... Christian Marx is coming to America from Germany and will be racing in two different Triumphs, to show us how a German drives a Triumph. And he will do very well. I am not sure what this all means, but I find it very cool. I AM sure these 70 something TR Pilots will hanging on the fence at Turn 5 watching Chris drive. No pressure here, eh, Chris? There will be stories like this all weekend. See you there....... Joe A _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 31 12:40:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC70740439 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 12:40:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0717A40338 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 12:40:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.193]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id DA17C7012C06C; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:40:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 983DFE000088; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:40:19 -0400 (EDT) References: <94979258-D526-419E-938F-2FE7757993E7@cs.com> <002801cea676$d3a746b0$7af5d410$@com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:40:20 -0500 To: MadMarx x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377974419; bh=NEges4JqkGK5/6UVGl+3Y0AT8W4y46WKCpBziCG80S4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=QrigL2LstivaeDI/KXhMq7dWKs3lECm3AhrONX+4cr7GGaVDOob/qkQ/MZ0R2rH/V fj1kjiwglivoHRZhFeMdFUFG8WVSEBld+nMc+OA6ioykEWEOMy9exKoZo0c6Jwdh8Z 5JSw4iw7sZvXxLGC7U35L6uTh6L+dCy4OrDlObs0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c1522238930c33 Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Germany And The USA. 60 years of Competition Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We are looking forward to seeing you drive..... Sent from my iPad On Aug 31, 2013, at 1:20 PM, "MadMarx" wrote: > Well, now I'm under pressure. > And I thought it would be a relaxed weekend ;-) > > Chris > > -----UrsprC Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im > Auftrag von Joe Alexander > Gesendet: Samstag, 31. August 2013 16:56 > An: fot@autox.team.net > Cc: deb korneli > Betreff: [Fot] Germany And The USA. 60 years of Competition > > In the early 50s we had three Americans thrashing around Germany with their > Triumphs. These three will be at Road America next week. > > Dan Fowler First American to win a championship at Nurburgring in a TR2. > > Robert Johns Triumph Factory Driver....which included co-drive with Mike > Rothschild at 12 Hours of Sebring > > Mr. Maguire. AKA as "Mr. Triumph" in Des Moines. He drove his TR in > Germany, raced it in SCCA in the US, and then restored it. It will be at GOG > and Road America. > > Wait! There's more..... > > Christian Marx is coming to America from Germany and will be racing in two > different Triumphs, to show us how a German drives a Triumph. And he will do > very well. > > I am not sure what this all means, but I find it very cool. > > I AM sure these 70 something TR Pilots will hanging on the fence at Turn 5 > watching Chris drive. > > No pressure here, eh, Chris? > > There will be stories like this all weekend. See you there....... > > Joe A > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 31 13:43:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C688640409 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:43:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0951C403D4 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:38:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A900A0E6F for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:38:13 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:38:12 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/22.0 SeaMonkey/2.19 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <94979258-D526-419E-938F-2FE7757993E7@cs.com> <002801cea676$d3a746b0$7af5d410$@com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Germany And The USA. 60 years of Competition Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net MadMarx wrote: > Well, now I'm under pressure. > And I thought it would be a relaxed weekend ;-) > Not having a car there I will probably get pretty bored, nothing much to do or see, I imagine. Probably stay in the room watching TV all day. Yikes, I forgot to ask earlier - any chance of getting a crew pass so I can get into the event? Late notice, I know. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 31 13:58:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC45640439 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:58:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d03.mx.aol.com (omr-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A166D403D4 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:58:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.196]) by omr-d03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 422D170085A2C; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 15:58:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id E541DE0000A5; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 15:58:20 -0400 (EDT) References: <94979258-D526-419E-938F-2FE7757993E7@cs.com> <002801cea676$d3a746b0$7af5d410$@com> <52224624.2090107@bradakis.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:58:21 -0500 To: Mark J Bradakis x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1377979101; bh=sDtuZSCA5ERaRemPbkEObXcXlH5B4BmuOZiae7WDEo4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=eEVjSNte5shvPK2weW4aYWgEbkNp/DyNuAi7adv5Ioa/PsJfepMPdKLUbV9qI4OfR a5nUKS/LRfhChH13kt3xdnksgqFQfD6+9TuV1x2lXnKX1wr8Tp+5VjeJ/gwv1Nn7kU E4prcLtlpj1re6A64Gmx3HgC5kfnfmJy6nJ/hnDo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c452224adc3690 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Germany And The USA. 60 years of Competition Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If you find more than one, I could use one. Joe A. Sent from my iPad On Aug 31, 2013, at 2:38 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > MadMarx wrote: >> Well, now I'm under pressure. >> And I thought it would be a relaxed weekend ;-) > Not having a car there I will probably get pretty bored, nothing much to do or see, > I imagine. Probably stay in the room watching TV all day. > > Yikes, I forgot to ask earlier - any chance of getting a crew pass so I can get into the > event? Late notice, I know. > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 31 14:44:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 983F6403F1 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:44:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail201c2.megamailservers.com (mail201c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E02403D4 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:41:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.255.68.192] (227.sub-174-237-33.myvzw.com [174.237.33.227]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail201c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r7VKexiZ022350 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 31 Aug 2013 16:41:05 -0400 References: <94979258-D526-419E-938F-2FE7757993E7@cs.com> <002801cea676$d3a746b0$7af5d410$@com> <52224624.2090107@bradakis.com> From: John Hasty Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 16:40:56 -0400 To: Mark J Bradakis a=LZtzSYrSpWYA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=HfK+tYAZ3jlk5O74Uvw4pw==:17 a=k9IzgLeNAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=371NXQECYXD-K6ZWtLIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=T1jTriLPLxoA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=HfK+tYAZ3jlk5O74Uvw4pw==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Germany And The USA. 60 years of Competition Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mark. I may have one crew pass, but won't know until next Wed. When do you arrive? Send your c Sent from my iPhone On Aug 31, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > MadMarx wrote: >> Well, now I'm under pressure. >> And I thought it would be a relaxed weekend ;-) >> > Not having a car there I will probably get pretty bored, nothing much to do or see, > I imagine. Probably stay in the room watching TV all day. > > Yikes, I forgot to ask earlier - any chance of getting a crew pass so I can get into the > event? Late notice, I know. > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 31 14:45:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508C740409 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:45:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail175c2.megamailservers.com (mail175c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A504E403D4 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:44:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.255.68.192] (227.sub-174-237-33.myvzw.com [174.237.33.227]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail175c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r7VKhwJ0030576 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 31 Aug 2013 16:44:03 -0400 References: <94979258-D526-419E-938F-2FE7757993E7@cs.com> <002801cea676$d3a746b0$7af5d410$@com> <52224624.2090107@bradakis.com> From: John Hasty Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 16:43:55 -0400 To: Mark J Bradakis a=LZtzSYrSpWYA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=HfK+tYAZ3jlk5O74Uvw4pw==:17 a=k9IzgLeNAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=ccSqpFGNFBpvNjtshZEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=T1jTriLPLxoA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=HfK+tYAZ3jlk5O74Uvw4pw==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Germany And The USA. 60 years of Competition Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Cell # and I can call and let you know if I was able to put your name on my crew list at registration Sent from my iPhone On Aug 31, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > MadMarx wrote: >> Well, now I'm under pressure. >> And I thought it would be a relaxed weekend ;-) > Not having a car there I will probably get pretty bored, nothing much to do or see, > I imagine. Probably stay in the room watching TV all day. > > Yikes, I forgot to ask earlier - any chance of getting a crew pass so I can get into the > event? Late notice, I know. > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 31 19:06:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0225C403D5 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 19:06:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s43.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s43.snt0.hotmail.com [65.54.61.94]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55CC5403D4 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 19:06:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT402-EAS62 ([65.55.90.71]) by snt0-omc2-s43.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 31 Aug 2013 18:06:05 -0700 From: Rich Rock Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 21:06:12 -0400 To: "fot@autox.team.net" FILETIME=[6F094850:01CEA6AF] Subject: [Fot] Help needed at summit point Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Dave Miller and I are at summit point and we need a Tr6 clutch disc asap. Any help available? Thanks, Rich Rock 610-804-9047 cell _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 31 19:37:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C014403EF for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 19:37:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm20-vm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm20-vm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.116]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D30403D4 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 19:37:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.157] by nm20.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Sep 2013 01:37:07 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.49] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Sep 2013 01:37:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp102.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Sep 2013 01:37:07 -0000 s=s1024; t=1377999427; bh=5t8RooS96gytMVR++xUTyPFNH4cduj4pTolFq4ufy1U=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:Content-Type:Subject:Date:References:To:Message-Id:Mime-Version:X-Mailer; b=p/RDnrvVJKv9DxrHwauq3++Bg4s0/jokBqBXzQrFQYXoFvoMBmWz4+MLiG3tBQc9nAxgdVmjn60QwX/kL2945HNkLWOKg3+xUs+UjpALr1gSvj/3ob/PMn9ZEnHKb4rwRTW2uWr2PjewmP8+TRrG48IdM91rMN2/MW5eenJDkQU= 3zsQEmMal44Nsu0QkdcbuiLyaLIsohN3.cuG.rIh4K0t56Xf9EnV3MZUVZdT N8LbRGUftJHpytEGO4ipzccL8hsrXY0YwZEMx11Uo4OvzrMn5.yklY8hwV5O _BvIMkdkNZmMwHnXcC7T0Ulu7_nc9CQllbhe16KoDsELtILlOG4F4NEVOGma _bHNVqF_5WFMrObJ1J3DYXGNsvc61ZhTa.crkBCiaBUTLBD1LVghPIlzPD.k k7NpUEWO3FhPFb23bwISWGlPylUAdqiwAMnyZNx2q_RHWFh2BY06coGpqX7c EBk2uRhNmzhSYD2GkT_z0BdclLKPg2q3DQ1xx6w8XcKIMotDq2AFhX0Ct2Nd Ncv8wGxJiu.UMSUyr7..BscowNXsv5b9xrvojorgboeAEAXgrvFahn6Gicmb fg8KuOsv8WIEjLxVHnyoUsCnRNNhluV2bmBeKfzYfRUTGpUzoTb82u.QhSS_ T855tXl4zq2zA6mrByIWirA3HEOIdTzRUUJ7sfvue6wWb3uA- plain) by smtp102.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Aug 2013 18:37:07 -0700 PDT From: Andrew Packard Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 18:37:03 -0700 References: To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] FOT PATCHES, not BADGES (sorry for the confusion) -- STILL AVAILABLE!!! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > From: Andrew Packard > Subject: FOT Badges -- STILL AVAILABLE!!! > Date: August 30, 2013 5:34:23 PM PDT > To: fot@autox.team.net > > Hello Amici! > By now, if you didn't buy an FOT badge you need to be prepared for your envy at the sight of your fellow FOT'ers sporting their spotless new badges. But, you're in luck because I still have 37 to sell! We've covered our costs plus a little but still need to continue the sales in order to earn enough for the seat belts in our TR4 Lemons race car project. > If you are interested, simply send paypal $ to apackard68@att.net. Price is $6 for the first badge and $5 for each badge after that. If you would like to pay by check, make it payable to SilverScreen Triumph and mail to: 56 Hagen Oaks Ct, Alamo, CA 94507. > Get them before they're gone! > Andy Packard _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive