From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 03:49:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B9D5403BB for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 03:49:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D93640382 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 03:47:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [67.255.13.17] ([67.255.13.17:49323] helo=Russlaptop) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 71/92-16944-1E99A425; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 09:46:09 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 05:46:07 -0400 Thread-index: AQHOvgN7XFfDco9ySC+6T6lYjd2IVZneja4AgADIJ7eAADs3QIAACGbA Content-language: en-us Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] TR8 - Endurance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Initial msg bounced............ -----Original Message----- From: Spitfire Racing [mailto:spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 5:26 AM To: 'peter.bulkowski@mercedes-benz.ca'; 'BillDentin@aol.com'; 'charly@mitchelplumbing.com'; 'lang@isis.mit.edu'; 'tr4racing@googlemail.com' Cc: 'fot@autox.team.net' Subject: RE: [Fot] TR8 - Endurance Peter and Chris, & co; Next June at Mosport Bob Tullius will be present along with the Group 44 TR-6 and it will be the inaugural awarding of the Group 44 Inc. award. Bob ran Mosport very successfully a number of times and has fond memories I am sure he will discuss with the group. If Chris has never been to Mosport this may be a golden opportunity. Those of us that have run there have it quickly become our favorite track and return every year. Mosport 2014 will also be the site of the Triumph - MG Challenge which will bring out a strong showing from both sides in addition to a multitude of street cars for the weekend. The very first race at Mosport was won by a Triumph TR-3 so there is definitely a history there for us. Russ Moore -----Original Message----- From: peter.bulkowski@mercedes-benz.ca [mailto:peter.bulkowski@mercedes-benz.ca] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 1:42 AM To: Spitfire_Racing@twcny.rr.com; BillDentin@aol.com; charly@mitchelplumbing.com; lang@isis.mit.edu; tr4racing@googlemail.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 - Endurance Group,Bill,Russ,Charley Let me say this Group 44 is legendary just like Kas Kastner, I remember the Drivers like Tullius,Brian Bill Adams and Lanky there were a Race Team with Me ga Sponsorship. In 2008 at the Glen we hat Dinner one Night with Lanky I won't forget I believe Bill you were there, Bill Warner,Tim Lanocha,Tim's Friend (forget the name) and Woody Cooper ( I don't remember there were about 12 in the Restaurant sorry if I left you name out. Four weeks ago Chris raced the TR 8 at RA as a Guest driver and did a outstanding drive, not much seat time due to Oil$ leak and LSD failure. He respected the car and drove it like he Did not owed it. With respect. I trusted chris from my first E-mail and Telephone conversation 6 weeks ago and I will let chris Drive the 8 any time. Thank you Chris. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Spitfire Racing [mailto:Spitfire_Racing@twcny.rr.com] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 09:45 PM W. Europe Standard Time To: BillDentin@aol.com ; charly@mitchelplumbing.com ; lang@isis.mit.edu ; tr4racing@googlemail.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 - Endurance Yes, it is/was the same car! Remember it well. Russ -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BillDentin@aol.com Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 1:36 PM To: charly@mitchelplumbing.com; lang@isis.mit.edu; tr4racing@googlemail.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 - Endurance In a message dated 09/30/2013 12:24:40 PM Central Daylight Time, charly@mitchelplumbing.com writes: > > But a 2:30 in '79 is at Road America was a pretty stout performance. > IMHO, > > of course. I think I remember watching that race on TV back in the day. > They used to show the races delayed a couple of weeks on syndicated TV > coverage. I remember following the progress of the TR8 all year and > cheering them on. > That car is/was pretty awesome. > Isn't that one of the cars Bill Warner has? He raced it in the 'Watkins Glen' Kastner Cup race. They were in the garage adjacent to ours and Lanky Foushee (RIP) was wrenching for him. That car was still fast. Shortly there after there was an extensive article about the car in one of the motorsports publications, dealing specifically with exactly how and why the car went so fast. It was not, as they say, your Dad's TR8. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bulkowskip@mercedes-benz.ca If you are not the addressee, please inform us immediately that you have received this e-mail by mistake, and delete it. We thank you for your support. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 05:53:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE23D403E0 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 05:53:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (isis.mit.edu [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5EB403BB for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 05:53:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r91Bq38H007953; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 07:52:03 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 07:52:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: FoodDude References: <0a7d01cebe38$1202c320$36084960$@fooddude.com> Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Frame assist Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi - The TR6 Repair manual has the full dimensions of the frame. You can get the original or the Robert Bently repriint, it's the same info. If you don't have a copy, shoot me a line and I'll try to scan it. But scans of that page are sketchy because there's a LOT of detail and very tiny text to explain it. Regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 30 Sep 2013, FoodDude wrote: > Amici, > > Can anyone recommend someone who can straighten a TR6 frame? Car located in > Cedar Park (Austin), TX. Alternately, seeking the frame dimensions and > frames specs on a TR6. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Dave > > BRG #24 FP '64 Spitfire > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/lang@isis.mit.edu _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 06:03:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DE24041D for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 06:03:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f51.google.com (mail-oa0-f51.google.com [209.85.219.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE8D403D3 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 06:02:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id h16so4680202oag.38 for ; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 05:01:44 -0700 (PDT) h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=h231wH09dvI5AKsJtV5t9T4ZD7kuIhHRwDmVDCOgmDU=; b=jUxaMAVFVl2JC779rKUGBgjeWn3xHaiEyADwRE4tHjXV/8DKRHyJeB+h4SX+POsdPa t/vUwC0KuHH3TMOby0wCRh1qoDDb59Ti1Uxxyjmn0G8TsD4RFk3YEw2fVSrsCK1fm3+N 9Vu1YBYPkACvmMOesJhzfXp3ROnbOMe5Z4WBJyEDQnJSmEBt7rR8gF8LXGmEQWo31pu+ 0sG+UAymidQ9Ay0NcHJuWj8zDdu0eXA101gJ9ABatDl6g50oihgQH58lXdXb7Dg1XJdG ehWetlGPljewV5rYW5zjFc+6EagT5pQ+QS1Icfb1Nsy80qY+6vREsfl6Jm9zLIJclvGz 02jg== g9mr25092447oer.8.1380628904199; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 05:01:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id s14sm10823814oeo.1.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 01 Oct 2013 05:01:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 20:56:00 -0500 References: <0a7d01cebe38$1202c320$36084960$@fooddude.com> To: FoodDude Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Frame assist Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Dave, Many moons ago I used Rising Sun frame shop on south Lamar (not far from Barton Springs Road) to straighten the unibody on a BMW 3.0Si. They did a nice job. Duncan On Sep 30, 2013, at 6:52 PM, FoodDude wrote: > Amici, > > Can anyone recommend someone who can straighten a TR6 frame? Car located in > Cedar Park (Austin), TX. Alternately, seeking the frame dimensions and > frames specs on a TR6. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Dave > > BRG #24 FP '64 Spitfire > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 06:24:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC4240418 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 06:24:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s28.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s28.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54037403E0 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 06:21:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU173-W15 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s28.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 1 Oct 2013 05:20:27 -0700 From: Henry Morrison To: "BillDentin@aol.com" , fot Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 06:20:26 -0600 References: <8a368.4d33475f.3f799bea@aol.com> FILETIME=[9C94DF10:01CEBEA0] Cc: "lotusgeorge@comcast.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Missing 'Subject Line'... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I most likely have those.......................Cheers, Henry Morrison 505-259-1537 > From: BillDentin@aol.com > Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 11:06:19 -0400 > To: fot@autox.team.net > CC: lotusgeorge@comcast.net > Subject: [Fot] Missing 'Subject Line'... > > Amici... > > My previous email was missing a subject line, which would have (and should > have) caused concern. > > Per the 'email copy' below, a racing friend of mine, "Lotus George" > Hovsepian, is looking for a pair of TR7 axle shafts (the ones with square > press fit > hubs). He uses them on his Lotus. I owe George. For one thing, he sent > some great designer cheese to the Beady Eye VINTAGE TRIUMPH Racing Team > wine > and cheese party at the Kastner Cup event at Road America earlier this > month. We served eight different kinds of cheese on Friday night at that > party, > and the stuff George brought was the hit of the party and gone in a flash. > > If you can help him, it will be appreciated. Please deal directly with > George. His email address appears in the 'copy to' information herewith, > and > his telephone number is in the 'email copy' below. > > Thanks, > > Bill Dentinger > > > <<< Hi Bill, > Would you please pass this on to the friends of Triumph group. I ned a > pair or 2 pair of axle shafts from a TR 7. There are 2 types available. I > > need the ones with the square press fit hubs. It is very difficult to get > the > hubs off without a special puller, which i have. If any one has a TR7 > languishing or about to go to the crusher, please have them call me at > 847/540-0516. Thanks, George >>> > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dos_gusanos@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 06:44:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64B94041E for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 06:44:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F0840357 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 06:44:18 -0600 (MDT) a=ft3aQrzeuTtyZjRjRVvyHw==:17 a=ufghDHTLyEAA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=n0WTl8BIWBgA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=DyMgSWZyTC8Hl-Qsdr8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=ESbL4lWZtkRNuhy0CXoA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=TGVOGKDle9_DLp-m:21 a=ft3aQrzeuTtyZjRjRVvyHw==:117 Received: from [65.29.157.118] ([65.29.157.118:37987] helo=[10.0.1.3]) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 77/B4-02323-753CA425; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 12:43:04 +0000 From: Allen Washatko To: Duncan Charlton Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 07:43:03 -0500 References: <0a7d01cebe38$1202c320$36084960$@fooddude.com> Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Frame assist Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Check Ratco Inc for new frame or frame componennts. On Sep 30, 2013, at 8:56 PM, Duncan Charlton wrote: > Dave, > Many moons ago I used Rising Sun frame shop on south Lamar (not far > from > Barton Springs Road) to straighten the unibody on a BMW 3.0Si. They > did a nice > job. > > Duncan > > > On Sep 30, 2013, at 6:52 PM, FoodDude wrote: > >> Amici, >> >> Can anyone recommend someone who can straighten a TR6 frame? Car >> located > in >> Cedar Park (Austin), TX. Alternately, seeking the frame dimensions >> and >> frames specs on a TR6. >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Dave >> >> BRG #24 FP '64 Spitfire >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/awashatko@wi.rr.com > > Allen & Jody Washatko 1971 TR6 - Number 6 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 08:13:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D35C4042C for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 08:13:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07BCB403BC for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 08:10:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from AR5J3QR6XV (cpe-70-113-116-224.austin.res.rr.com [70.113.116.224]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MHHEh-1VdwoK3d2p-00DgJ4; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 10:09:09 -0400 From: "FoodDude" To: References: <0a7d01cebe38$1202c320$36084960$@fooddude.com> <84BFED3E-7892-4B24-B3C4-E483D5CD52E7@wi.rr.com> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 09:09:08 -0500 Thread-Index: AQIjT+i8++e7xi/wJ/7sRGZwGrgDjwF3zIUnAnHtgRmZF3G50A== Content-Language: en-us Dsz05Di3RS+INdkrBWUDNMJBDWtLSod+0crAGDJzNJTiqo9PLP 3dDLmVDV+ai2K8B0gfsulwwnJGOt1qNlLQRiE8OfQKKjg62mQR GDOmNiJ4VdALRG0vZA55mbiNBaYePlqHBvaUAN6/U2f8sTBeIt zi+lXsNzAh0xkOdAlHjhxLYga+0FAld1KE3CydsKoO3EKRleSX myHWktrAoCi6TiRzbxH8bNIOQabX/iw4J/unm2eLf8TbzBShgh pWnryo1+b97jXOmF8rzEXwjCkQCSkcp/nPViiRqFrEU366ikZH j0uS/JFYsTrENHfmH4WLgJNMOShsX4yhzOUgMTOuS Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Frame assist Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks all. This info for a possible future FoT. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 10:48:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 191FC40424 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 10:48:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (isis.mit.edu [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15DD04041D for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 10:48:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r91Gl5P9008704; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 12:47:05 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 12:47:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Bob Kramer References: <20130926.222526.18416.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> <112BC9F4-E02A-46E1-B5D7-60A1345459C4@bnj.com> <74CA5BCE-16E7-4E79-BB55-A7A97130AE17@aol.com> <524627BD.3060908@bradakis.com> <229CEC58-7B8C-494C-8CCA-5216BA22935B@austin.rr.com> Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 diff disassembly Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On Sat, 28 Sep 2013, Bob Kramer wrote: > Does anyone else remember the early 6-Pack articles by Len Renkenberger? > He had a series on some of the tougher jobs like TR6 diffs making your > own special tools. He also covered rear hubs. Great stuff. The series was called "Six-Tech". I remember seeing a copy and all I could think of was - wow, he did a book on a Mac. You could tell by the fonts. But I tend to see the world that way. ;-) > Bob Kramer > Sent from my iPhone c ya, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 10:55:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8760340430 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 10:55:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm18-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm18-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC0B40356 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 10:55:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.49] by nm18.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2013 16:53:54 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.61] by tm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2013 16:53:48 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp212.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2013 16:53:48 -0000 s=s1024; t=1380646428; bh=I3pSRwZBjjAYShQGVIe8vAbNnTE/ld/m6arXEUj5rts=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Subject:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=yFVnEt1yc2eOU3tCPJKEqeUKMRMXQwoZ0S6mligJnY8QGKefS7AbUB1vZqUK5qaQGN/X4eYaAlrL+ACpkcewjZKl1kLdv0LbwFpknhMSTroE/cbCXnAn90/TihgIE4nvEDFleFwRuyZlkmng+KCqMv1rybkWB9kItK9lyIacwdk= s84D_1JiQQW7XOI_r8bgmPkuUVADoMEhTzHbBJWeCdFwHXWggmGXnEJj6ody DJ0Mam2DpgoO192lP_S9Y5f2.VvfsXWiA9ZK5dZz3ul8IHyfDQZjhs87vc.M w04p9Ucocmeo4B14XMXQgzS_Dpus7L9i7QIpI7K2x0YWcf5RcEuIRa9n.weS 8PUNOg9ktSWsrnSBzKTxv1VnFzq4QQpw3sQfJ5yef6MRjojgUt99drBzCi.6 MSRVL7yxsnyv_Fii6CjKGpJifzlujkrBwxS4NfZP6S_euzRLuULRPaBSHNLd BDufzAoWMQCo6u8ZQ2HrCM0.DjqAnQGWe2Ddv0M6vpdaqN_tnbb53zSzd55d fNvcoy5lDkHH3DpPYUhmk1NII2cR7Yhb.SPpbYQr2u3w5KZ05BrLGM.R2gSu LEjHSYCqWpuFJ8NnLjv4gjnk0raptaQOsbADsA0qTgz4qVXVeYSkidR0iH9D 0VpE4jL.dRz.MvTl4c1A7JXyOyW3nNAGSr5b1WoBiVckRow3lLukT227MTJh bqP4jD6g- ) by smtp212.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 01 Oct 2013 09:53:48 -0700 PDT From: Andy Packard Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 09:53:45 -0700 To: fot@autox.team.net, "<6pack@autox.team.net>" <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: [Fot] TR250 oil pressure update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi all. It's not for lack of effort that I can't solve my oil pressure problem. On Saturday, I dropped the pan and used plastigauge on all my bearings and they all checked out tighter than the .002 marking but not to the .0015 mark, within Bentley specs. The oil pump seemed fine and pulled oil when spun in my hand. Once in the car though, problems getting it circulated. I drove it to the shop helping with this after installing the HD spring in the regulator. I had more pressure at first, but when I arrived and slowed to an idle it was gone and the water started boiling. Stuck on this one and trying to stay patient. Andy Packard _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 12:49:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7484540442 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 12:49:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (isis.mit.edu [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81D240400 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 12:46:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r91Ij7Z0009025; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:45:07 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:45:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Bob Kramer References: <20130926.222526.18416.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> <112BC9F4-E02A-46E1-B5D7-60A1345459C4@bnj.com> <74CA5BCE-16E7-4E79-BB55-A7A97130AE17@aol.com> <524627BD.3060908@bradakis.com> <229CEC58-7B8C-494C-8CCA-5216BA22935B@austin.rr.com> Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 diff disassembly Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOTs - Here's a link to a web page that has the original Six Tech in "pdf" format: http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/6-tech-Manuals.htm You need Adobe reader or equivalent to read it. Regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 14:07:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FACB4044F for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:07:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.66]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63834044F for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:06:09 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=a3XF2LiFi8PK6mtcWi6+bocp5t32o8mkjkoKhSvbreE517zXjfRuuSoZ8Q/gaor2; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.40] (helo=elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1VR6Bh-0002yr-S0 for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 16:04:53 -0400 Received: from 108.64.186.7 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 16:04:53 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 13:04:53 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: steve To: FOT Subject: [Fot] TR3 Race video from Coronado Speed Festival Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Here's a video I put together from the Coronado Speed Festival. Enjoy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfeU2F2bgD8&feature=youtu.be ~STEVE _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 14:45:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A8540511 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:45:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from juliette.telenet-ops.be (juliette.telenet-ops.be [195.130.137.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2571F4041D for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:45:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([141.134.4.155]) by juliette.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id XwkB1m00r3LgakV06wkEh3; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 22:44:14 +0200 From: "Van Mulders Marcel" To: Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 22:44:09 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6+5vpy8oiVAWGuSRGGvWuGx6SWWQ== Subject: [Fot] new fot nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks to Chris Marx for nominating me and to the FOT members who believe I'm good enough to fit in this community of great people dedicated to the Triumph cars. I came across of most of the Fot names already when visiting websites about vintage racing, Triumph race cars and of course in the books of Kas Kastner. B.t.w. the books of Kas, and also mailing him, have helped me a lot to make my car fast. Of course, from know on I'll post problems and questions to the Fot also and, having some experience meanwhile, I 'm always willing to help people whenever I can. After posting emails for a while, I met Chris Marx for the first time in 2005 at a race track, where else. We were both new in the vintage racing and 'independent'. I startet racing in 2002 when my late wife gave me a road racing course for my 50th birthday and my freshly restored and somewhat tweaked yellow TR3 was the obvious victim to be molested.( Before the TR3, I had consecutively a SpitfireMkIV, a TR7 and a Dolomite1850 as everyday cars and restored a TR6 in 1990-1992, so I thought of no other car than a Triumph to go racing) In 2006 and 2007, I saw Chris at the podium regularly while I was finishing in the mid field, but for the 2008 season, I had a very strong engine and ended 2nd overall in the german TriumphCompetition championship, with the help of Chris who had a lot of mechanical failures. During the 2008-2009 winter, the floppy chassis was strenghtened and also the rest of the suspension was sorted out. In the 2009 season I finished every race 1st of class and had also 2 overall wins, but the TC championship was ordered already by someone else and my car was disqualified. I was very, very disappointed and only survived this blow by winning the championship overall in 2010 and again in 2011. Meanwhile, Chris Marx, racing his red TR4 in the same class as me, had made up his mind to beat one racer sooner or later : me! He succeeded for the 1st time in Assen, The Netherlands, in 2010. In 2012 he was faster on more racetracks than me and he was the overall winner of the TC Championship. In 2013 he is the shining star and has beaten me in every race that both of us did finish, but he is 15 points behind me in the class ranking because of more mechanical failures on his side. With 3 races to go (next week-end at the Nurburgring) I've done everything to my car to win at least one regular race against Chris in the 2013 season. Watch this place. Marcel Van Mulders _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 15:39:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD5240515 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:39:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail176c2.megamailservers.com (mail176c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C9134041D for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:35:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.235.199.255] (112.sub-174-237-35.myvzw.com [174.237.35.112]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail176c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r91LXeRd019753 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 1 Oct 2013 17:33:42 -0400 References: <11001182.1380657893856.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> From: John Hasty Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 17:33:38 -0400 To: steve a=HsVNz7rJWeIA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=5ZeHO/clCeWWLFOX3YA8ug==:17 a=5Up8faWwAAAA:8 a=HncRe_NaAAAA:20 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=uvJhKlvGVyep1EyfSPIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=v6MMM96S_sUA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=5ZeHO/clCeWWLFOX3YA8ug==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 Race video from Coronado Speed Festival Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Neat Steve. Your video skills are the best Wish I knew how to post to YouTube Ah my next project. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 1, 2013, at 4:04 PM, steve wrote: > Here's a video I put together from the Coronado Speed Festival. > > Enjoy! > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfeU2F2bgD8&feature=youtu.be > > > ~STEVE > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 15:40:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D5440452 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:40:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f50.google.com (mail-oa0-f50.google.com [209.85.219.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 827D74041D; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:40:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id j1so5477022oag.9 for ; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 14:39:34 -0700 (PDT) h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=cUb4+FQHK1rT9HrBQgy5/3LXOXZ5uEAwLebyuDVriWY=; b=yVzXLKWNrUdvn1S+3e5VjNKJOCdIdieZBijNqNWfem/Iz8UMQJR/s1JylLA6+FIsg4 +0qCXd7E6GCSyjx7PhgxM82q0PVqW1nwbSEWUTqTjwrQo4sXlqZ8NGvuX+Hlz66ncJHP QdpzkH/urJ6oyQiTB5FGzr5LzBBN8kJ/42qOcCpd0jyM9ubZP8jDT6/ihyLzo1ed9KHD NY2+ezisHs2PIdgRww5cMbDh16kIrzRvosrqfpO4mp4EvBSUqWkjhq9fgmeaghOB+sAv FCP1TlMdjW9hBG3WIqtCc67wr5m+OylJT8G5nO0ORWZH5HTTvO8u0TergGQfUK/y+QdE SLmw== o8mr28947792oed.7.1380663574052; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 14:39:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d3sm16280733oek.5.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 01 Oct 2013 14:39:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 16:39:27 -0500 References: <225DA99C-A279-409C-9F96-0FC1D5B6BD92@att.net> To: Andy Packard Cc: "<6pack@autox.team.net>" <6pack@autox.team.net>, fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR250 oil pressure update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Andy, When you say the water is boiling, what is your indication? Temperature on the gauge? Sound of boiling water? Radiator overflow puking water out on the ground? Any sign of water in your oil? Duncan On Oct 1, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Andy Packard wrote: > Hi all. It's not for lack of effort that I can't solve my oil pressure > problem. > On Saturday, I dropped the pan and used plastigauge on all my bearings and > they all checked out tighter than the .002 marking but not to the .0015 mark, > within Bentley specs. The oil pump seemed fine and pulled oil when spun in my > hand. Once in the car though, problems getting it circulated. I drove it to > the shop helping with this after installing the HD spring in the regulator. I > had more pressure at first, but when I arrived and slowed to an idle it was > gone and the water started boiling. Stuck on this one and trying to stay > patient. > > Andy Packard > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 17:15:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FDA140440 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 17:15:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-out.emea.daimler.com (mail-out.emea.daimler.com [141.113.102.111]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5FF403C5 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 23:43:07 -0600 (MDT) From: peter.bulkowski@mercedes-benz.ca To: Spitfire_Racing@twcny.rr.com, BillDentin@aol.com, charly@mitchelplumbing.com, lang@isis.mit.edu, tr4racing@googlemail.com Thread-topic: [Fot] TR8 - Endurance Thread-index: AQHOvgN7XFfDco9ySC+6T6lYjd2IVZneja4AgADIJ7c= Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 05:41:52 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-language: en-US vuAyi8XXDxwWF9+dZLFo+nKDzYHN4/7uleweu37PYPd4OmEyu8elY9eYPd6d28jisWIxdwBb FJdNSmpOZllqkb5dAlfGlym7WQt2SVUsen+bpYHxk2gXIyeHhICJxKM/M9ghbDGJC/fWs3Ux cnEICZxmlPjxaRUThLOLUWLmzzXMEM4rRomPSxdAOWcZJfbsOcIE0s8moCZxa3U72CwRgXqJ h3+XsnYxcnAwA81tnVQCEhYWUJI4fX4CC0SJssT3xmtQ5VYSV66+ZwWxWQRUJc5v2MIIYvMK hEqcmLofzOYUMJV4c+MFWC8j0Mjvp9aArWUWEJdobr3JAvGCgMSSPeeZIWxRiZeP/7FC2DIS 534/Y4eo15Ho/f6NGcLWlnjy7gIrxC5BiR+T77FMYBSfhWTsLCQts5C0zELSsoCRZRWjSmKx blJ6nm5qrqGugZGJXmpuaqJeUrpecn5RATB+ixL18lJLNjGCY1ikaAfjmiU2hxgFOBiVeHj/ hnkFCbEmlhVX5h5ilOBgVhLhZYoDCvGmJFZWpRblxxeV5qQWH2KU5mBREudla3INEhJITyxJ zU5NLUgtgskycXBKNTBu5MoSK4qY9/VQUevmry9cd+4/zta892GaeSpHlleLtr7Q47dn5Rf1 PJsme79x+h5u8/Ob6o5sM95T+tD2n8G23rYV1xIihUu/bfiy83vxofNOG5+8V2/8wP9p/3Rl E8mf909uMd3i9TNgXm6C+wYh7RPWojff71D4qRbQ82/Fz2clux78kRe+osRSnJFoqMVcVJwI ANMnG3vdAgAA Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 - Endurance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Group,Bill,Russ,Charley Let me say this Group 44 is legendary just like Kas Kastner, I remember the Drivers like Tullius,Brian Bill Adams and Lanky there were a Race Team with Me ga Sponsorship. In 2008 at the Glen we hat Dinner one Night with Lanky I won't forget I believe Bill you were there, Bill Warner,Tim Lanocha,Tim's Friend (forget the name) and Woody Cooper ( I don't remember there were about 12 in the Restaurant sorry if I left you name out. Four weeks ago Chris raced the TR 8 at RA as a Guest driver and did a outstanding drive, not much seat time due to Oil$ leak and LSD failure. He respected the car and drove it like he Did not owed it. With respect. I trusted chris from my first E-mail and Telephone conversation 6 weeks ago and I will let chris Drive the 8 any time. Thank you Chris. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Spitfire Racing [mailto:Spitfire_Racing@twcny.rr.com] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 09:45 PM W. Europe Standard Time To: BillDentin@aol.com ; charly@mitchelplumbing.com ; lang@isis.mit.edu ; tr4racing@googlemail.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 - Endurance Yes, it is/was the same car! Remember it well. Russ -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BillDentin@aol.com Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 1:36 PM To: charly@mitchelplumbing.com; lang@isis.mit.edu; tr4racing@googlemail.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 - Endurance In a message dated 09/30/2013 12:24:40 PM Central Daylight Time, charly@mitchelplumbing.com writes: > > But a 2:30 in '79 is at Road America was a pretty stout performance. > IMHO, > > of course. I think I remember watching that race on TV back in the day. > They used to show the races delayed a couple of weeks on syndicated TV > coverage. I > remember following the progress of the TR8 all year and cheering them on. > That car is/was pretty awesome. > Isn't that one of the cars Bill Warner has? He raced it in the 'Watkins Glen' Kastner Cup race. They were in the garage adjacent to ours and Lanky Foushee (RIP) was wrenching for him. That car was still fast. Shortly there after there was an extensive article about the car in one of the motorsports publications, dealing specifically with exactly how and why the car went so fast. It was not, as they say, your Dad's TR8. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bulkowskip@mercedes-benz.ca If you are not the addressee, please inform us immediately that you have received this e-mail by mistake, and delete it. We thank you for your support. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 17:16:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29CE640514 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 17:16:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51358403BB for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 03:26:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [67.255.13.17] ([67.255.13.17:49198] helo=Russlaptop) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 86/20-16944-7159A425; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 09:25:44 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: , , , , References: <000001cebe15$9f2a8e40$dd7faac0$@rr.com> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 05:25:41 -0400 Thread-index: AQHOvgN7XFfDco9ySC+6T6lYjd2IVZneja4AgADIJ7eAADs3QA== Content-language: en-us Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 - Endurance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Peter and Chris, & co; Next June at Mosport Bob Tullius will be present along with the Group 44 TR-6 and it will be the inaugural awarding of the Group 44 Inc. award. Bob ran Mosport very successfully a number of times and has fond memories I am sure he will discuss with the group. If Chris has never been to Mosport this may be a golden opportunity. Those of us that have run there have it quickly become our favorite track and return every year. Mosport 2014 will also be the site of the Triumph - MG Challenge which will bring out a strong showing from both sides in addition to a multitude of street cars for the weekend. The very first race at Mosport was won by a Triumph TR-3 so there is definitely a history there for us. Russ Moore -----Original Message----- From: peter.bulkowski@mercedes-benz.ca [mailto:peter.bulkowski@mercedes-benz.ca] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 1:42 AM To: Spitfire_Racing@twcny.rr.com; BillDentin@aol.com; charly@mitchelplumbing.com; lang@isis.mit.edu; tr4racing@googlemail.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 - Endurance Group,Bill,Russ,Charley Let me say this Group 44 is legendary just like Kas Kastner, I remember the Drivers like Tullius,Brian Bill Adams and Lanky there were a Race Team with Me ga Sponsorship. In 2008 at the Glen we hat Dinner one Night with Lanky I won't forget I believe Bill you were there, Bill Warner,Tim Lanocha,Tim's Friend (forget the name) and Woody Cooper ( I don't remember there were about 12 in the Restaurant sorry if I left you name out. Four weeks ago Chris raced the TR 8 at RA as a Guest driver and did a outstanding drive, not much seat time due to Oil$ leak and LSD failure. He respected the car and drove it like he Did not owed it. With respect. I trusted chris from my first E-mail and Telephone conversation 6 weeks ago and I will let chris Drive the 8 any time. Thank you Chris. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Spitfire Racing [mailto:Spitfire_Racing@twcny.rr.com] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 09:45 PM W. Europe Standard Time To: BillDentin@aol.com ; charly@mitchelplumbing.com ; lang@isis.mit.edu ; tr4racing@googlemail.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 - Endurance Yes, it is/was the same car! Remember it well. Russ -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BillDentin@aol.com Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 1:36 PM To: charly@mitchelplumbing.com; lang@isis.mit.edu; tr4racing@googlemail.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 - Endurance In a message dated 09/30/2013 12:24:40 PM Central Daylight Time, charly@mitchelplumbing.com writes: > > But a 2:30 in '79 is at Road America was a pretty stout performance. > IMHO, > > of course. I think I remember watching that race on TV back in the day. > They used to show the races delayed a couple of weeks on syndicated TV > coverage. I remember following the progress of the TR8 all year and > cheering them on. > That car is/was pretty awesome. > Isn't that one of the cars Bill Warner has? He raced it in the 'Watkins Glen' Kastner Cup race. They were in the garage adjacent to ours and Lanky Foushee (RIP) was wrenching for him. That car was still fast. Shortly there after there was an extensive article about the car in one of the motorsports publications, dealing specifically with exactly how and why the car went so fast. It was not, as they say, your Dad's TR8. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bulkowskip@mercedes-benz.ca If you are not the addressee, please inform us immediately that you have received this e-mail by mistake, and delete it. We thank you for your support. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 23:57:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D17240525 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 23:57:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f177.google.com (mail-pd0-f177.google.com [209.85.192.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7725A4044F; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 23:56:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f177.google.com with SMTP id y10so414091pdj.36 for ; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 22:55:24 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=JFYONZKc+FAokAo0MmngXn6W6jTF5HLPa0nsdx9tWlk=; b=LzMO2z6yvVAdvzJ1NOwqxD8DciMobtKJG9fzyL0IXyOtZYjOZAEvKdQvzEFxFMbJTX CV/srs+LvVgu/+ijI/kthw+Ry8nNysf0t8jeFfFf1MTxH3rRKn08QDE955ynZfvyjh1k p1U2TAL3FOm/hOgLjTQ/yCIm8D6Pa5FWhdvyn2ydyiwb6neQKOiHfi47x46Z2DJ8s1RE Jz11HpYF8yC3yXITdov7m7b1Un8I99xJQPLyBdbES9id1E8VBJ9gAGubRGQX+ER0i49p lrr+9P1ElDLK2bzoiWJC0yOCqpZvgDPAte+m5GZCNy3HwMhj4kGdqBWPT+dhxjYdy74R glxQ== ug1mr1348663pac.92.1380693324459; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 22:55:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.248.39 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 22:54:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 22:54:42 -0700 To: Friends , Triumph <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: [Fot] One wire alternator for TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mine is shot -- do not know what I bought originally [lost the reference]. What is the recommended alternator that will bolt up correctly and uses only one wire to the battery? Mine has the lead on the top. I will use the pully I have now as it is not stock size. thanks, Chuck _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 05:18:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845DD4051E for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 05:18:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.wave1.net (unknown [74.219.105.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0533E40440 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 05:18:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [74.219.99.119] by mail.wave1.net (ArGoSoft Mail Server .NET v.1.0.8.3) with ESMTP (EHLO mtmPC); Wed, 02 Oct 2013 07:18:45 -0400 From: "Mike Moore" To: "'Van Mulders Marcel'" , References: Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 07:17:22 -0400 thread-index: Ac6+5vpy8oiVAWGuSRGGvWuGx6SWWQAee/Bg Content-language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] new fot nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hope you both have videos of this race for us to watch Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Van Mulders Marcel Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 4:44 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] new fot nomination Thanks to Chris Marx for nominating me and to the FOT members who believe I'm good enough to fit in this community of great people dedicated to the Triumph cars. I came across of most of the Fot names already when visiting websites about vintage racing, Triumph race cars and of course in the books of Kas Kastner. B.t.w. the books of Kas, and also mailing him, have helped me a lot to make my car fast. Of course, from know on I'll post problems and questions to the Fot also and, having some experience meanwhile, I 'm always willing to help people whenever I can. After posting emails for a while, I met Chris Marx for the first time in 2005 at a race track, where else. We were both new in the vintage racing and 'independent'. I startet racing in 2002 when my late wife gave me a road racing course for my 50th birthday and my freshly restored and somewhat tweaked yellow TR3 was the obvious victim to be molested.( Before the TR3, I had consecutively a SpitfireMkIV, a TR7 and a Dolomite1850 as everyday cars and restored a TR6 in 1990-1992, so I thought of no other car than a Triumph to go racing) In 2006 and 2007, I saw Chris at the podium regularly while I was finishing in the mid field, but for the 2008 season, I had a very strong engine and ended 2nd overall in the german TriumphCompetition championship, with the help of Chris who had a lot of mechanical failures. During the 2008-2009 winter, the floppy chassis was strenghtened and also the rest of the suspension was sorted out. In the 2009 season I finished every race 1st of class and had also 2 overall wins, but the TC championship was ordered already by someone else and my car was disqualified. I was very, very disappointed and only survived this blow by winning the championship overall in 2010 and again in 2011. Meanwhile, Chris Marx, racing his red TR4 in the same class as me, had made up his mind to beat one racer sooner or later : me! He succeeded for the 1st time in Assen, The Netherlands, in 2010. In 2012 he was faster on more racetracks than me and he was the overall winner of the TC Championship. In 2013 he is the shining star and has beaten me in every race that both of us did finish, but he is 15 points behind me in the class ranking because of more mechanical failures on his side. With 3 races to go (next week-end at the Nurburgring) I've done everything to my car to win at least one regular race against Chris in the 2013 season. Watch this place. Marcel Van Mulders _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore@wave1.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 05:26:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F554051F for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 05:26:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877C340440; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 05:26:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.17.140]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MU100EU9H1HU310@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net>; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 06:24:54 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" , "Friends" , "Triumph" <6pack@autox.team.net> References: Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 07:24:50 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] One wire alternator for TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net My soultion was to get an inexpensive Delco alternator from my local parts store. Jump a wire from #2 terminal (I think) to the hot post and it self regulates. A minor problem: you have to file off 1/8 of an inch or so from the alternator mounting pivot casting for belt alignment. A minor item. Another thing is that the TR6 alternator uses a 5/16 mounting bolt while the Delco uses a 3/8. Solution is take off the mounting bracket and drill and tap it out to 3/8 and use a 3/8 bolt. Stronger anyhow. You may have to fab the top adjusting arm, but that's easy. Jeg's etc sells them. It's really very easy to do. I've had no problems with that setup in my car, except the one time the jumper wire came adrift, the battery started to get low, and I got black flagged because my transponder was failing. And if you're on the road or track and have a problem, any parts store will have a replacement in stock. Under $100 for everything. Good luck, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" To: "Friends" ; "Triumph" <6pack@autox.team.net> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 1:54 AM Subject: [Fot] One wire alternator for TR6 > Mine is shot -- do not know what I bought originally [lost the reference]. > What is the recommended alternator that will bolt up correctly and uses > only one wire to the battery? Mine has the lead on the top. I will use > the pully I have now as it is not stock size. > > thanks, > Chuck > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 06:20:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B984051B for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 06:20:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F874003E for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 06:19:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.153.3.14] (mobile-166-216-136-154.mycingular.net [166.216.136.154]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.08(7.0.4.27.7) 64bit (built Aug 22 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0MU1006PYJIEEQ80@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 12:18:21 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-10-02_04:2013-10-02,2013-10-02,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1308280000 definitions=main-1310020044 References: <3FD5D08E-0671-412A-9BA7-B990CD939C39@att.net> From: SCOTT JANZEN Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 08:18:13 -0400 To: Andy Packard Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR250 oil pressure update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm puzzled by the leak down test numbers. My gauges have an input of 100 psi and read leakage as a percentage, 0-5 being good. Is this equivalent? Certainly sounds like a head gasket or a crack that opens up with heat in the head. Sent from my mobile device On Oct 2, 2013, at 3:02 AM, Andy Packard wrote: > Leak down test at 90psi. All cylinders were at 82-84psi. Wish we could find > definite data pointing us to the problem, although several if you have said > head gasket based on the temp differences. > > Andy Packard > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:41 PM, Joseph wrote: > >> I had that problem - had wrong head gasket! Good luck! >> Joseph Alkana >> '72 TR 6 >> From: Andy Packard >> Sent: 10/1/2013 5:35 PM >> To: ; fot@autox.team.net; <6pack@autox.team.net> >> Subject: Re: [6pack] TR250 oil pressure update >> >> Thanks Dick. We've isolated it to be either water or head gasket as you > said. >> The head gets super hot at 202 deg witht he block at 150 or less. Water is >> flowing rapidly through the radiator but then boils over after a few > minutes >> of 1500-2000 rpm idling. >> I just pulled the water pump housing and I'm trying to figure the next > move. >> Water system bubbled but does not burp even with thermostat removed. >> >> Andy Packard >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Oct 1, 2013, at 11:40 AM, Sally or Dick Taylor >> wrote: >> >>> Andy --- I'm reasonably certain you have an air lock in the cooling > system. >> Try removing the thermostat and running the engine. Look for air bubbles >> returning to the top of the radiator. If bubbles are present, continue > running >> the engine till they're gone. Use a portable fan in front of the grill > opening >> to keep the engine cool, if needed, during this exercise. >>> >>> Another possibility, tho rare, would be if something about the head > gasket >> isn't allowing the coolant to circulate. >>> >>> You will no doubt slap your forehead when you find the reason! >>> >>> Dick >>> >>>> From: apackard68@att.net >>>> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 09:53:45 -0700 >>>> To: fot@autox.team.net; 6pack@autox.team.net >>>> Subject: [6pack] TR250 oil pressure update >>>> >>>> Hi all. It's not for lack of effort that I can't solve my oil pressure >>>> problem. >>>> On Saturday, I dropped the pan and used plastigauge on all my bearings >> and >>>> they all checked out tighter than the .002 marking but not to the .0015 >> mark, >>>> within Bentley specs. The oil pump seemed fine and pulled oil when spun > in >> my >>>> hand. Once in the car though, problems getting it circulated. I drove > it >> to >>>> the shop helping with this after installing the HD spring in the >> regulator. I >>>> had more pressure at first, but when I arrived and slowed to an idle it >> was >>>> gone and the water started boiling. Stuck on this one and trying to > stay >>>> patient. >>>> >>>> Andy Packard >>>> >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> >>>> 6pack@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tr6taylor@webtv.net >> >> ________________________________________ >> >> 6pack@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/josephspiano@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 06:53:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF1640527 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 06:53:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8041403EC for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 06:53:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [67.255.13.17] ([67.255.13.17:57950] helo=Shop) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id C7/30-16944-7E61C425; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 12:51:51 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: "'SCOTT JANZEN'" , "'Andy Packard'" References: <3FD5D08E-0671-412A-9BA7-B990CD939C39@att.net> <38D2C7A7-8EF8-4C4D-8BEE-5B4052CDDC39@me.com> Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 08:52:44 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6/aZfTHCXECfTmTZS48ngeUuK3zwAA5pfw Content-Language: en-us Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR250 oil pressure update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If the head has not been crack tested it certainly should be before any more time and funds are expended. You will then be able to inspect the head gasket to see what the condition is/was. Have you checked to see if the water jacket is being pressurized by one or more of the cylinders. There's something very basic here that has eluded you somehow. Cracks in heads are not all that uncommon especially if the engine was overheated at some point in it's past. I'm also concerned the head is running some ~60 degrees hotter than the block. I'm sure you have confirmed the engine is in fact filled with coolant. Russ Moore -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of SCOTT JANZEN Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 8:18 AM To: Andy Packard Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR250 oil pressure update I'm puzzled by the leak down test numbers. My gauges have an input of 100 psi and read leakage as a percentage, 0-5 being good. Is this equivalent? Certainly sounds like a head gasket or a crack that opens up with heat in the head. Sent from my mobile device On Oct 2, 2013, at 3:02 AM, Andy Packard wrote: > Leak down test at 90psi. All cylinders were at 82-84psi. Wish we could > find definite data pointing us to the problem, although several if you > have said head gasket based on the temp differences. > > Andy Packard > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:41 PM, Joseph wrote: > >> I had that problem - had wrong head gasket! Good luck! >> Joseph Alkana >> '72 TR 6 >> From: Andy Packard >> Sent: 10/1/2013 5:35 PM >> To: ; fot@autox.team.net; >> <6pack@autox.team.net> >> Subject: Re: [6pack] TR250 oil pressure update >> >> Thanks Dick. We've isolated it to be either water or head gasket as >> you > said. >> The head gets super hot at 202 deg witht he block at 150 or less. >> Water is flowing rapidly through the radiator but then boils over >> after a few > minutes >> of 1500-2000 rpm idling. >> I just pulled the water pump housing and I'm trying to figure the >> next > move. >> Water system bubbled but does not burp even with thermostat removed. >> >> Andy Packard >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Oct 1, 2013, at 11:40 AM, Sally or Dick Taylor >> >> wrote: >> >>> Andy --- I'm reasonably certain you have an air lock in the cooling > system. >> Try removing the thermostat and running the engine. Look for air >> bubbles returning to the top of the radiator. If bubbles are present, >> continue > running >> the engine till they're gone. Use a portable fan in front of the >> grill > opening >> to keep the engine cool, if needed, during this exercise. >>> >>> Another possibility, tho rare, would be if something about the head > gasket >> isn't allowing the coolant to circulate. >>> >>> You will no doubt slap your forehead when you find the reason! >>> >>> Dick >>> >>>> From: apackard68@att.net >>>> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 09:53:45 -0700 >>>> To: fot@autox.team.net; 6pack@autox.team.net >>>> Subject: [6pack] TR250 oil pressure update >>>> >>>> Hi all. It's not for lack of effort that I can't solve my oil >>>> pressure problem. >>>> On Saturday, I dropped the pan and used plastigauge on all my >>>> bearings >> and >>>> they all checked out tighter than the .002 marking but not to the >>>> .0015 >> mark, >>>> within Bentley specs. The oil pump seemed fine and pulled oil when >>>> spun > in >> my >>>> hand. Once in the car though, problems getting it circulated. I >>>> drove > it >> to >>>> the shop helping with this after installing the HD spring in the >> regulator. I >>>> had more pressure at first, but when I arrived and slowed to an >>>> idle it >> was >>>> gone and the water started boiling. Stuck on this one and trying to > stay >>>> patient. >>>> >>>> Andy Packard >>>> >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> >>>> 6pack@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tr6taylor@webtv.net >> >> ________________________________________ >> >> 6pack@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/josephspiano@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 07:41:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4214A4051C for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 07:41:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A194041D for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 07:41:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.143] by nm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2013 13:39:42 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.240] by tm14.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2013 13:39:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1049.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2013 13:39:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 74911 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Oct 2013 13:39:42 -0000 s=s1024; t=1380721181; bh=E19voBhI06C9J32YLoJzO+DmBBpG30UVGjxJCd0HERA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pO1OqOo4+eAwT2CIMT0TDHcWkp4N/xcH9b0fDsAFwFqQ9dgyvC6h/fHRtcnbM4FoQtxHV7na2gA1IcEOO4uOcyB0Bcpj+15mcj57FmTJbNBgS8o6Np6bXRek6YpOPHFbCxFsQ8UfE7waiRr2DxTMiNNJIYV1bRFTJOzYOINScLQ= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fIwwdztChvrmSg0YfLXuQPxV34A+rUY9YMw81zXUh1Nrg49dQ/QBdJxgCvN/Yv3C8NrnyBdegUZs/buAjmeg/xXj/4zrukVh8BnRWuJ4ex3d+7xyBeueSGFK/yVAmF16tep+4Pa1mdGLkk6IijiuJhlNG6mxd1rH2heYTTNTH3g=; oaTIbrWydh14v_67A45HiSABZ_t1CHlKf4DwUW0vZdBsnTTmG8TIBYnQr1lg lWznCxt1IL1HCoeNJunGq0BbQLEUpKQP.j6Pmk5daLnv01e92yLPXTAHj5nm 1qItAASbrnAAh95m7whtq4fsYytVhb9ve3EdvoR5Oii.c0JnW3MxOHLHaRNu lTHTAtW3i2RS5wcn_FMlVyTj8ZpQ5BxDCk286PGDjGBjqidrkQyCLEmOlfNn OHdtKS_45lJKy_GUivZbSTzj48ad8DQNDF07jwGghj7Fp4QrthC066FmwJG. cwqrLJIBPgKGoqU0W1Ge4EPZaVoqZnobohj0dVTrp0KxsLOwLjJcHvmI9bYX YU4RJ5oPHhX7xA5fYHc3k_iZKKY8q.fNUDe6Qylv6EJ1zbog_oeptlodovxZ aMTBRx.Q5KTEk_C64nEn40z5yAhQvLQ22jyPoL3uSA2NRp721dOzBO0ktnTa um6yWDPe6C5.3xgXG89hmmnBRmQbYqKLy5k2oSmwS2W4VcdQeE5AMmeOIHu2 lXXfXepXp43vB2FMm6Gg.2KrmSZbapmvi57fVQ3CAxcbYYMw_9JijkQ7oTsP 4Mm.aIXNIj9c3hqcfwwY7_Dow_vdPVGd3DGq3oozKSN2cgEQ2oCD0eNMclSt I Received: from [66.192.188.2] by web160905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 06:39:41 PDT YW5kIHdoZW4geW91ciAkMzggYWx0ZXJuYXRvciBicmVha3MsIGxpa2UgbWluZSBkaWQgSSBqdXN0IHRvb2sgaXQgYmFjayBhbmQgdGhleSBnYXZlIG1lIGEgbmV3IG9uZS4gaXQgaGFkIGEgbGlmZSB0aW1lIHdhcnJhbnR5IGZyb20gTydSZWlsbHkncwogCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogRnJvbTogQmlsbCBUb2JpbiA8d2lsbGlhbS50b2JpbjMxQHZlcml6b24ubmV0PgpUbzogQ2h1Y2sgQXJub2xkIGFuZC9vciBLYXRobGVlbiBLZWxsZXkgPHRyaW9zYW5AZ21haWwuY29tPjsgRnIBMAEBAQE- References: <091D69DDDAB349E88D374291F6F693B4@hpd530> Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 06:39:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Mehl To: Bill Tobin , Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley , Friends , Triumph <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] One wire alternator for TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net and when your $38 alternator breaks, like mine did I just took it back and they gave me a new one. it had a life time warranty from O'Reilly's ________________________________ From: Bill Tobin To: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley ; Friends ; Triumph <6pack@autox.team.net> Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 4:24 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] One wire alternator for TR6 My soultion was to get an inexpensive Delco alternator from my local parts store. Jump a wire from #2 terminal (I think) to the hot post and it self regulates. A minor problem: you have to file off 1/8 of an inch or so from the alternator mounting pivot casting for belt alignment. A minor item. Another thing is that the TR6 alternator uses a 5/16 mounting bolt while the Delco uses a 3/8. Solution is take off the mounting bracket and drill and tap it out to 3/8 and use a 3/8 bolt. Stronger anyhow. You may have to fab the top adjusting arm, but that's easy. Jeg's etc sells them. It's really very easy to do. I've had no problems with that setup in my car, except the one time the jumper wire came adrift, the battery started to get low, and I got black flagged because my transponder was failing. And if you're on the road or track and have a problem, any parts store will have a replacement in stock. Under $100 for everything. Good luck, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" To: "Friends" ; "Triumph" <6pack@autox.team.net> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 1:54 AM Subject: [Fot] One wire alternator for TR6 > Mine is shot -- do not know what I bought originally [lost the reference]. > What is the recommended alternator that will bolt up correctly and uses > only one wire to the battery? Mine has the lead on the top. I will use > the pully I have now as it is not stock size. > > thanks, > Chuck > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > Donate: > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mike.mehl@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 08:53:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70CC540510 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 08:53:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gccrmdowa1.gcc.grande.com (outlook.grande.com [12.199.190.98]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844D440440 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 08:50:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GCCRMDEXCH1.gcc.grande.com ([fe80::2ca7:6580:6c35:9bc6]) by gccrmdowa1.gcc.grande.com ([fe80::e5e7:b268:95fc:cdc7%10]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 09:49:13 -0500 From: "Fridirici, John" To: "fot@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: Nomination Thread-Index: Ac6/fG+MKLUu1kl+QASSc+sbNDba/QAAciow Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 14:49:13 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.3.0.61] Subject: [Fot] FW: Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Group, Dick introduced himself to Love Triumphs Racing (British Racing Purple) at Elkhart Lake Kastner Cup a few weeks ago! I hope the information is helpful as you consider a second to the nomination. John Fridirici Dick was on a Corvette racing team in the early 80's. A crew chief and mechanic for Duvory Racing 1981 to 1983. took 2nd in Midwest division. Went to the Run Off's in 1982 in Atlanta. Dick was crew chief and mechanic for Kuehn Racing of shifter carts for 3 years from 2002 to 2004 competing all over the Midwest. Dick restored 2 TR6's, and owned a few additional Triumphs: '59 TR3, '64 TR4, '69 GT6 and the current '74 TR6. He is a member of The Vintage Triumph Register, Vintage Triumphs Of Wisconsin, and 6 Pack. That is a partial list of activities which he can expand on I am sure. I met Dick at the Kastner Cup this Fall and he was all over the Triumph area visiting. . He would like to get more involved with a racing team again now that he is semi-retired, living in Oconomowoc, WI. Do I hear a key board forwarding a second? 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If you are not the intended recipient of the email or the attachments, please contact the sender and delete all copies. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 08:57:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065634052D for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 08:57:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC6B240321 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 08:57:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DonPC (modemcable014.55-58-74.mc.videotron.ca [74.58.55.14]) by VL-VM-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-22.01 64bit (built Apr 21 2011)) with ESMTPA id <0MU100MT3QSVS430@VL-VM-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 10:55:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Don TR <58tr3a@videotron.ca> To: 'steve' , 'FOT' References: <11001182.1380657893856.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 10:55:43 -0400 Thread-index: Ac6+4Zu7HL7Can4BRjyazsZS70X4VQAnNp0g Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 Race video from Coronado Speed Festival Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Steve - I loved your video. Front views and rear too ? A TR3 owner from Melbourne, Australia saw your video and asked the following question : _ Would Steve be a relative of US mid-west track racer, the late Mike Belfer, known as Doctor T ?. Mike used to campaign an ex Bob Tullius ex Brian Fuerstenau TR3. Your video has also been posted on the British TR Register Forum. http://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/43376-tr3b-coronado-spe ed-festival Cheers Don Elliott, Original Owner, 1958 TR3A, Montreal, Canada -------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of steve Sent: October-01-13 4:05 PM To: FOT Subject: [Fot] TR3 Race video from Coronado Speed Festival Here's a video I put together from the Coronado Speed Festival. Enjoy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfeU2F2bgD8&feature=youtu.be ~STEVE _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/58tr3a@videotron.ca _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 08:57:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C301140441 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 08:57:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m07.mx.aol.com (omr-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E54D40321 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 08:57:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.137]) by omr-m07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A8A5A70035441; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 10:56:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mta002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mta002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.133]) by mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 63771E000086; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 10:56:11 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 10:56:11 -0400 (EDT) To: John.Fridirici@grande.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d3389524c340b2606 Subject: Re: [Fot] FW: Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net "Dick" nomination by John Fridirici (Dick Hein?)... SECOND. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 09:08:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CDD14053F for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 09:08:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gccrmdowa1.gcc.grande.com (outlook.grande.com [12.199.190.98]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52DA40401 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 09:08:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GCCRMDEXCH1.gcc.grande.com ([fe80::2ca7:6580:6c35:9bc6]) by gccrmdowa1.gcc.grande.com ([fe80::e5e7:b268:95fc:cdc7%10]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 10:07:13 -0500 From: "Fridirici, John" To: "fot@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: Recent nomiation information for Dick Heinen Thread-Index: Ac6/gQhd70h2mQWcR+anBFyHwTmDKQ== Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 15:07:13 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.3.0.61] Subject: [Fot] Recent nomiation information for Dick Heinen Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Dick's last name is Heinen. John Notice: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of the email or the attachments, please contact the sender and delete all copies. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 10:10:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D758B40521 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 10:10:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from jacques.telenet-ops.be (jacques.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4284006C for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 10:09:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([141.134.4.155]) by jacques.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id YG7x1m01u3LgakV0JG81gj; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 18:08:01 +0200 From: "Van Mulders Marcel" To: "'Mike Moore'" References: <001b01cebf60$f7b8eba0$e72ac2e0$@net> Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 18:07:55 +0200 thread-index: Ac6+5vpy8oiVAWGuSRGGvWuGx6SWWQAee/BgAAoKjxA= Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] new fot nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I will make video's and will load them to the internet(Contour, not Youtube : I will make a hotlink to it on this forum) Marcel Van Mulders -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Mike Moore [mailto:mmoore@wave1.net] Verzonden: woensdag 2 oktober 2013 13:17 Aan: 'Van Mulders Marcel'; fot@autox.team.net Onderwerp: RE: [Fot] new fot nomination Hope you both have videos of this race for us to watch Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Van Mulders Marcel Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 4:44 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] new fot nomination Thanks to Chris Marx for nominating me and to the FOT members who believe I'm good enough to fit in this community of great people dedicated to the Triumph cars. I came across of most of the Fot names already when visiting websites about vintage racing, Triumph race cars and of course in the books of Kas Kastner. B.t.w. the books of Kas, and also mailing him, have helped me a lot to make my car fast. Of course, from know on I'll post problems and questions to the Fot also and, having some experience meanwhile, I 'm always willing to help people whenever I can. After posting emails for a while, I met Chris Marx for the first time in 2005 at a race track, where else. We were both new in the vintage racing and 'independent'. I startet racing in 2002 when my late wife gave me a road racing course for my 50th birthday and my freshly restored and somewhat tweaked yellow TR3 was the obvious victim to be molested.( Before the TR3, I had consecutively a SpitfireMkIV, a TR7 and a Dolomite1850 as everyday cars and restored a TR6 in 1990-1992, so I thought of no other car than a Triumph to go racing) In 2006 and 2007, I saw Chris at the podium regularly while I was finishing in the mid field, but for the 2008 season, I had a very strong engine and ended 2nd overall in the german TriumphCompetition championship, with the help of Chris who had a lot of mechanical failures. During the 2008-2009 winter, the floppy chassis was strenghtened and also the rest of the suspension was sorted out. In the 2009 season I finished every race 1st of class and had also 2 overall wins, but the TC championship was ordered already by someone else and my car was disqualified. I was very, very disappointed and only survived this blow by winning the championship overall in 2010 and again in 2011. Meanwhile, Chris Marx, racing his red TR4 in the same class as me, had made up his mind to beat one racer sooner or later : me! He succeeded for the 1st time in Assen, The Netherlands, in 2010. In 2012 he was faster on more racetracks than me and he was the overall winner of the TC Championship. In 2013 he is the shining star and has beaten me in every race that both of us did finish, but he is 15 points behind me in the class ranking because of more mechanical failures on his side. With 3 races to go (next week-end at the Nurburgring) I've done everything to my car to win at least one regular race against Chris in the 2013 season. Watch this place. Marcel Van Mulders _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore@wave1.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 10:39:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4A5740538 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 10:39:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail168c2.megamailservers.com (mail168c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD84640408; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 10:35:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail168c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r92FsEM2010100; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 11:54:20 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: "'Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley'" , "'Friends'" , "'Triumph'" <6pack@autox.team.net> References: Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 11:54:13 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6/NBty3eJeJeJuQX62UUeDfsWOKwAUzUcg a=R-sigYEwPEwA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=1s-cHhEkiKOU1iTUglYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=16k5rY2fuUMA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=OeVq1jOX2_x8Nxne:21 a=13Khox_Ghc-7Vl1s:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] One wire alternator for TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net DB Electrical 423 477 2242 Part # AND525 $84.84 small one wire 85amps. Perfect for a race car. They are on the web if you want to see a picture. Been using it for 2 yrs with no problems. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 1:55 AM To: Friends; Triumph Subject: [Fot] One wire alternator for TR6 Mine is shot -- do not know what I bought originally [lost the reference]. What is the recommended alternator that will bolt up correctly and uses only one wire to the battery? Mine has the lead on the top. I will use the pully I have now as it is not stock size. thanks, Chuck _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 11:27:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DACF40535 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 11:27:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm10-vm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm10-vm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.218.94]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05AC240517 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 11:27:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.183] by nm10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2013 17:25:52 -0000 Received: from [208.71.42.196] by tm19.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2013 17:25:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2013 17:25:40 -0000 s=s1024; t=1380734740; bh=rvVkgqaPr8OWNfh0maDNjeFkUynUWsHrKlaE1Tc/F7A=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=4rOD1JZhPpWO43hlHDCyotSd3ih+khYy9fm97xrWvwCgAElqwbJqXSPEVd9vDnCCX3OPqg53OdHdyTjQWAYifQXZ9GOWq33tmWUHBVQi41oiE02yhmME8vMI8HMA1SeqQCglexhEbtY4A125wfSm+8y2gnKUzbIxm+b+6w3sCAA= KtQpvq5QjcaXMAxImyACG8zoDW_Uf.gGW_SANsXJFo1LjXdAlS5g4BkCwgUN utHYZSqrWlV69ZxvsGSkplPgVXmjr2j9UnhfLfQbD_OF6zIb7EEdxWdPIrbU spoIqKr8Op2AF0KgqjOKskufsiNBWkVYIRmONjTN95RFIuxZQD55HBKR2RLD UvxjLRJ4JkhlT5BK7ImFz05QDqpXy1jcZFjeTFr4LlT2mWoz7eX39GeYBJ6W 7dADCH2fZUnz3bMvHMt_t8WRweewrJ4sEtsir5ILJw5kc9LWQ.zbbPV.j2kh 9BQYN5EqXnIfeJmYb76lNWzkGihR9wKx0Ri2oyZgI2uBWHg15hh0HK5myFrt RCRLrhGVTfKCD5T15MkvSOoZriFfi77hMLN.sqiTBC7PrWcWPkuYUXqWB9si yZz3RTw6MYRbHzPI5QAvHKu4r_cgKaE2IPCVdK0gNjDK02Vej3afMZcihnhb 5_V3jQ4KuTU4fYL7GZ4hUgUz.wVxp5WTXyxoZJJV.C4t1IDdu_yrVCw-- by smtp207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 02 Oct 2013 10:25:40 -0700 PDT References: <3FD5D08E-0671-412A-9BA7-B990CD939C39@att.net> From: Mike Munson Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 12:25:39 -0500 To: Andy Packard Cc: "<6pack@autox.team.net>" <6pack@autox.team.net>, Joseph , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR250 oil pressure update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I had the same temperature issues in the early years of my current TR6 race car. It turned out to be the head gasket leaking into the water jacket during the combustion explosion phase when cylinder pressures are greatest. The head gaskets were strong enough to hold for the lower pressures of a compression test but wouldn't hold when the engine was running. Once I changed over to Payen head gaskets the problem went away. Make sure you are using the early model head gasket without the extra thick compression rings. As far as the oil pressure issue, another thing to try is get a collection of bypass pistons from different vendors and test them with the same spring. It doesn't matter how heavy your spring is if the piston won't seal. I have found as much as a 30 # pressure difference by switching pistons. Mike Munson #28 EP TR6 > On Oct 2, 2013, at 2:02 AM, Andy Packard wrote: > > Leak down test at 90psi. All cylinders were at 82-84psi. Wish we could find > definite data pointing us to the problem, although several if you have said > head gasket based on the temp differences. > > Andy Packard _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 12:32:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B34F40541 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 12:32:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45E940521; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 12:32:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [162.191.37.173] ([172.56.6.239]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MfmKS-1VD5BE2MOy-00O1Pn; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 14:31:01 -0400 Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 13:30:50 -0500 From: The Fooddude To: john hasty , 'Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley' , 'Friends' , 'Triumph' <6pack@autox.team.net> 5ANv/PXsRBTyRtMwrb78vlEt2t0647U4B7eWLyVlzCz8dv5jda ihp91w9yQxdajwQYc7DwKlohewFJCWX4uRSHVg2z+QjC5TmSUo V5EMqk0OUUOz8CAn8LBM6MRIS9IlvENURqS1JvinuKoNkT1Bqi mXxvk1f95nnbUZm+BJEsn7gET8qtrzd3m7ZEjVsmYg56jW2A93 Uyf2Ad/8K8p4efwzC2wBvrXS++QjnZD2d/FqoV2e70bNSMCuou +0zvmdslwFN86L8zCBPO8lObInjrZCEb6KjHYAfCn1n0zrqB2d YeF08DnJw7b/QXhtQIrWcmF/y4DWyj+ObrLZwDIysRuFwW+v7k I74nFOrFd7JrZHlgpUSipWTX1kycBxcqw4= Subject: Re: [Fot] One wire alternator for TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I second that from db electric.B Sent via and typos courtesy wireless handheld device. -------- Original message -------- From: john hasty Date: 10/02/2013 10:54 AM (GMT-06:00) To: 'Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley' ,'Friends' ,'Triumph' <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] One wire alternator for TR6 DB Electrical 423 477 2242 Part # AND525 $84.84 small one wire 85amps. Perfect for a race car.B They are on the web if you want to see a picture. Been using it for 2 yrs with no problems.B John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:B This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited.B If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately.B Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE:B In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 1:55 AM To: Friends; Triumph Subject: [Fot] One wire alternator for TR6 Mine is shot -- do not know what I bought originally [lost the reference]. What is the recommended alternator that will bolt up correctly and uses only one wire to the battery?B Mine has the lead on the top.B I will use the pully I have now as it is not stock size. thanks, Chuck _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 13:03:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323544053D for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 13:03:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DACBD400AD for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 13:02:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vwm20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (vwm20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.10.50]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0MU200CT126DQEO0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 15:01:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [67.83.138.143] by webtop.webmail.optimum.net with HTTP; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 15:01:25 -0400 Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 15:01:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Redmond To: steve References: <11001182.1380657893856.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 Race video from Coronado Speed Festival Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Great video Steve! B I love the front to rear camera switch too. Todd On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 04:04 PM, steve wrote: > Here's a video I put together from the Coronado Speed Festival. > > Enjoy! > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfeU2F2bgD8&feature=youtu.be > > > ~STEVE > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 13:59:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF30840534 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 13:59:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.197]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D49F40526 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 13:56:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vwm20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (vwm20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.10.50]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0MU20031Q4NTQXO0@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for FOT@autox.team.net; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 15:55:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [67.83.138.143] by webtop.webmail.optimum.net with HTTP; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 15:55:05 -0400 Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 15:55:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Redmond To: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Subject: [Fot] Fuel Cell for TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Friends, I'm considering the ATL round 12 gal fuel cell listed below for the TR3. B It fits down in the spare tire well. Obviously, I would have to cut the trunk and fabricate a cover. B Anyone using this style? B Pros or cons? B Recommendations? http://www.ebay.com/itm/300918901930?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m 1438.l2649 Thanks Todd _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 15:47:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB43B40534 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 15:47:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail201c2.megamailservers.com (mail201c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CBA040441 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 15:44:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.238.249.119] (79.sub-174-254-112.myvzw.com [174.254.112.79]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail201c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r92Lgnrd028244 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 17:42:53 -0400 From: John Hasty Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 17:42:47 -0400 To: "fot@autox.team.net" a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Z5HxDPg5eollPjPaRjewPg==:17 a=rKr_NPZsg5i3lwK-b9gA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=7BIhOCY0Ia8A:10 a=3eVHO3ZdJzIA:10 a=Z5HxDPg5eollPjPaRjewPg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: [Fot] Cranks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net My other attempt may not have made it; so, again. Does anyone have experience with the billit cranks from the marine co in San Jose CA? Seems I need a new crank after VIR. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 17:24:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C47540537 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 17:24:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3662B403E6 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 17:24:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([10.127.143.54]) by cdptpa-qmta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20131002215158921.BVZS29869@cdptpa-qmta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 21:51:58 +0000 Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=hkMIV/OH/IG1oC8bCLObEw==:17 a=7j8KiKOKUKwA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=390KOuZj5ZkA:10 a=xRfjoxBpAAAA:8 a=pjdaNNIBAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=g7A1-IhXFC9oMgB7VucA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=bgAgzZxQv2QA:10 a=hkMIV/OH/IG1oC8bCLObEw==:117 Received: from [166.147.77.46] ([166.147.77.46:16850] helo=[10.84.83.225]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 9D/A5-04515-D359C425; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 21:50:54 +0000 References: <30261aef.39af4.1417abcf66c.Webtop.50@optonline.net> From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 15:50:49 -0600 To: Todd Redmond Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Cell for TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I use a similar model. I thought that it would be the easy route to simply fab a cover but my racing org wanted a full container. I'd say that to do it again, I'd buy a rectangular unit. It took a lot of work to fab the round tank. > On Oct 2, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Todd Redmond wrote: > > Friends, > > > I'm considering the ATL round 12 gal fuel cell listed below for the TR3. > B It fits down in the spare tire well. Obviously, I would have to cut the > trunk and fabricate a cover. B Anyone using this style? B Pros or cons? > B Recommendations? > > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/300918901930?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m > 1438.l2649 > > > Thanks > Todd > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 20:08:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D85A40406 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 20:08:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm38-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm38-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E6B40326 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 20:06:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.148] by nm38.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Oct 2013 02:05:05 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.235] by tm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Oct 2013 02:05:05 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1044.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Oct 2013 02:05:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 28508 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Oct 2013 02:05:05 -0000 s=s1024; t=1380765905; bh=BzfiZ18dK4CghAiE0pNTVN6PsykyDDIq4L5l/ge0m34=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fSd9BbsOfsiw++yY218+Mo0H6lxpSlWXoi5ttQtcWdynhbhXr0cp9GWZk4i86u0Q3cO7/qhunPx+WrF7sIeCOacbDpZHdosXiG9bj4GalDTgnoYRtmuNE3zch0cVLAfA79zWf9IZJ7mr3l2uvYLTgtG+vHJmG9qWQO6z8SwOQX4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PfUnlx2SeDvK2PZ3+2/8+J1Ibsbj7eQJ4Y3e1hMJJRytxvVJ5gMUAWANN/atYPnynYnu9Sv8hySKvRd8ppBGrE/pXWiqRbjTNC0GN8Y3mt470hs/5dMO4JgOAjI44NuxbwEvTW52oVHaaitMgVMPG/4GmCStCR4iNRTKyU7CYDA=; VTX0T4KaXj8cqYr_x1QPoqRp_2t0A5MoJ0qt97sg6B8vzJIRVSymfDGa89gS 2zKTF.Ok8bLZygjXAA.Q9cHW2M90hffhs9g6IXAY5vRSLb38iNoJC24zUvUO zlbyHjgR_6hn4I3YU2skJoAlI.l3wHroFrac8vgZubLqeyYs2e54yNSwf3sL O9cRfMdbN8K15.wPDSsh3zuSRtHV8DgdCvqfjplGKmJ2nnEPnQTrnpYB92zq T8QZW_.BqOGuRZMn6rH5J22hTny9dcdpTWmS9VyOLbF0rmt3UMUlbOgxMcMA dZ0z0hq5csvXeZNofhZp3xJYTcaPsQmT5.QuHZaVHKoLBWIqJcX.38YNfH9L 2Wqgrt.XtNJLl6FvFri.Xo.HsJiHyZujEl2tksh9mT3Xnk1uJT6b3gg2iy5H 8DoP0b0_v8FkJfGKLjSOHT3b98_NWTVztpXEYUfLm0k.V4Tff2yUTEGW9YWa 9E7uUW6bqFvHZDseoE0PUq5fJOS3rI9Pq0p9IbGjNdmDtqBMEMSPj3dMhc9i kzlcv9nvuN3kL Received: from [172.242.183.210] by web162502.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 19:05:05 PDT wqAgwqAgwqBJIHdvdWxkIGxpa2UgdG8gYWxzbyBzZWNvbmQgZGlja3Mgbm9taW5hdGlvbi4KCsKgIMKgIMKgSm9obiBXYWduZXIKwqAgwqAgwqBKdXN0IHRoZSB3cmVuY2guATABAQEB Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 19:05:05 -0700 (PDT) From: John Wagner To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I would like to also second dicks nomination. John Wagner Just the wrench. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 3 00:53:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829F3403E7 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 00:53:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f179.google.com (mail-ea0-f179.google.com [209.85.215.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF69403E6 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 00:53:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f179.google.com with SMTP id b10so856877eae.38 for ; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 23:52:15 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=BO5vqwlZaGO4H9nva9KYY6c/cWfYDZGZgBEZbGqK1Ic=; b=zI7QsWp7t+xjTsyHwSTurw+v5+90v0qxuFi25N3ALh6XjDOLf5R6Soy5EY4/jaTxJg PTuZkHAWGopzdKauEPj6gQctvBB6EofmA2y1CSr6NJkwdOg1J+XmpCw9AAos3koXj/IM dKiBk2A7hVxi2kDfUqshbImjdoUdad/ILgXRD/NTtCHKM/rTJnIgw2RY2+69WNK0qYnO NmRZY+KXg7T4fgKxKNnHu3GDio91GtyB90Z7BYC4ufvV5+93eVwLdD9GtylWLDd9D2Wa b/lUOSI+fP5Xkh0mHNktZ2fjJ5ZV53AyMJkEXn62kGjriSvvUFnNE/a1oAD5sQAsraKo 4HmA== k49mr10227696eey.36.1380783135329; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 23:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.174.151.193]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f49sm12070732eec.7.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 02 Oct 2013 23:52:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <1380765905.20110.YahooMailNeo@web162502.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 08:52:12 +0200 thread-index: Ac6/3UEH9zDzecx/RcChWRh77O2/1AAJ4gDw Content-language: de Subject: [Fot] Off to the Ring Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Guys, im gone to the NurburgRing, giving Marcel a hard time for the money. Cheers Chris Women and Hobbits are quite the same....sooner or later it is all about the Ring _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 3 07:17:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2CB34040C for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 07:17:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BFCE403B9 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 07:16:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [67.255.13.17] ([67.255.13.17:64018] helo=Shop) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id B9/AB-01315-EED6D425; Thu, 03 Oct 2013 13:15:26 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 09:16:21 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7AOsC5u4R7ogaBSMmJvjiDc+npJA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] Help needed... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Is there anyone living in the general vicinity of Eustis ,Florida? Maybe within 10-20 miles? Russ Moore _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 3 07:29:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D9740410 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 07:29:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from tr.ccfot.com (wsip-98-174-80-205.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92BCF4003A for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 07:29:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22EA2A4C092; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 09:28:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tr.ccfot.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tr.ccfot.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fC4invcr-kWs; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 09:28:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from HENRYPRECISION (wsip-98-174-80-202.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.202]) (Authenticated sender: yellow04@tr4racer.com) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 1F43BA4C08A; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 09:28:14 -0400 (EDT) From: To: "Todd Redmond" References: <30261aef.39af4.1417abcf66c.Webtop.50@optonline.net> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 09:28:14 -0400 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Cell for TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Love this line from the description. -Build your own metal container (drawing supplied) Heck, they supplied the drawing, what else do you need? ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Redmond" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 3:55 PM Subject: [Fot] Fuel Cell for TR3 > Friends, > > > I'm considering the ATL round 12 gal fuel cell listed below for the TR3. > B It fits down in the spare tire well. Obviously, I would have to cut the > trunk and fabricate a cover. B Anyone using this style? B Pros or cons? > B Recommendations? > > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/300918901930 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 3 09:50:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A40040443 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 09:50:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm24-vm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC02F403F3 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 09:50:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.165] by nm24.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Oct 2013 15:49:16 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.98] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Oct 2013 15:49:16 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp118.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Oct 2013 15:49:16 -0000 gYgWMHk8VY8Ppev47KIEr2YTvh0H5VY3GHnNCNNo0tGC1D8FFPO8E_rvB0Eh hjj5yESkMjIBmolA8lGzsxpHIV6AFjselLXBrrU7xZlA4KrTNbIm6RE1N.p. XjhGDlA6Nt71KaVHfTmp06R2M4wTK352knyzi51yCHhINftnk1DtFEPRmSfm TkkTGg_TIn_ODWPJ1_WzPYM_PdyyRiTF4aFqQe7C8GA860GMKBSnx1NdY7If Psqh3Q4ntAAV..NaYwUHvphHTvwPlwRy3PapPkZ63FD7DUarqQz2Iap0zonp cIG.aCNF0NpZOiDaPaeXEKgZp8k7BajEdglZZjXpmtQimW0Ka7WheXIhyzqn UGwdCsIMwuDLCvMkKm1RazvEuW1lHSoOIayU9tr526Ho31RNfJ613DQNkq8w zGiymmlx3IV0QvgMaFnmrGXilDVYYc9P.2bvAaTVkyWBWINK6xZMy5.aI46C yQJydy9GOLTbQb8F9xq1kFR8dnElFlV.TLhYfOsZ7Cg1O414In7_I.beZKf. CshnBTZQ- smtp118.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 03 Oct 2013 15:49:15 +0000 UTC Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2013 10:49:24 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: "FOT@autox.team.net" References: <225DA99C-A279-409C-9F96-0FC1D5B6BD92@att.net> <230CE743-9B7D-473D-AE8E-9FB7DF6C5DD4@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR250 oil pressure update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net How long does it have to sit before it starts to boil? As with most of these cars, my 250 will boil if it is left idling for maybe 15-30 minutes, depending on the ambient temperature. However, when I am moving at all, the gauge never moves from the point where the thermostat opens. You seem to be fixated on what it does when left idling. I would be more concerned about what it does at running speed. The oil pressure specs in the manual are something like 40-60 psi at 2,000 RPM. Mine runs at the low end of this range, but drops very low at idle. It has been that way for many years and I've had it since 1968. You have not mentioned what pressure yours shows at running speed. Larry Young _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 3 15:59:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7822D40450 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 15:59:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm1-vm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm1-vm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.72]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D4B4040E for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 15:59:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.158] by nm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Oct 2013 21:57:51 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.150] by tm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Oct 2013 21:57:51 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1026.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Oct 2013 21:57:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 85304 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Oct 2013 21:57:51 -0000 s=s1024; t=1380837471; bh=g4SBIzxRdahJhdldXpyveYPdA2U4XlR3I2hFQdKxm/I=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=E06PyJ7PQtMHqO3DcQ6Ch0P/btwpuDvk7sGTw3SOXQyY5XQTPPw3uo1xA1p7v5zoz+rPJY0SREYSSKkXGtIfVMUwZVffpV+ZEzmC97nwBg0HKXwgLKzdCqFbR6EVRNpZjq5oEaEHOOEpZ0Z52bMhUbN6x4PT+r1x+RNLFNplR4g= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nsiZPNDkWF78IkwBu7bfUcr3uDD///xbqYxaE21yvsjHZ86ai0kqhDAK7HL8KuNRgdg/j006WDDy8iQVtK+nSSLRTpr93ifOnbBj12oMaxOzjttSc4IKt7utCM6q+yhUcV5Vnop+tHL5XHY2hBGULvUt7zZj509Q3E4Pzq1A3vQ=; aoKSsHj7yPI8v50lZRwl3 Received: from [68.165.86.214] by web182204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 03 Oct 2013 14:57:51 PDT VGhhbmsgeW91IHZlcnkgbXVjaCBLYXMgZm9yIHRoZSBtb25leSBzaG90IG9mIG15IEdULTYrIGluIHRoZSBsYXRlc3QgZWRpdGlvbiBEVkQhIEFtYXppbmcgd2VhbHRoIG9mIGluZm9ybWF0aW9uLi4uIHN0aWxsIG9uIHRoZSBtZW5kIGZyb20gYSByZWJ1aWxkLi4KClRoYW5rcyBhZ2FpbiBLYXMgYW5kIEpvZSBmb3IgYWxsIHlvdSBndXlzIGRvIGZvciB0aGUgbW9zdCBvcHRpbWlzdGljIGdyb3VwIG9mIGZvbGtzIEkndmUgZXZlciBoYWQgdGhlIHBsZWFzdXJlIGFuZCBob25vciB0byBydW4gYW5kIGhhbmcgd2kBMAEBAQE- Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 14:57:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Bobby Whitehead To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] Kas Newest Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thank you very much Kas for the money shot of my GT-6+ in the latest edition DVD! Amazing wealth of information... still on the mend from a rebuild.. Thanks again Kas and Joe for all you guys do for the most optimistic group of folks I've ever had the pleasure and honor to run and hang with... Bobby Whitehead _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 3 16:07:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9954041A for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 16:07:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm22-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm22-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.152]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4606403E6 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 16:03:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.177] by nm22.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Oct 2013 22:02:28 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.129] by tm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Oct 2013 22:02:28 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp216.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Oct 2013 22:02:28 -0000 s=s1024; t=1380837748; bh=jScUZMXmivD9mYv3sgGu5M2zpf2jWfdNeDgov72HZgw=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Subject:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=tRnY/ILXxRnY0Zsu32cqAmQpPSocw1CvqGCivo/AICUGQbxhB3vbS7nBeWpzeDmmx9nDdFuZT3Ml94LJQSbb9evRidc2pCmrCP/tEKaFW/3qgsndogcWnHFya22Y9mKmeBl/++EkgSbiAkj4iagms7h2k9GiacHVHTlFEnQX61Q= B4NDD7ETOyadgSJheMqtKq5UD8B9SFiAVRwW_0kZhxXbbxrHI5BGAxxSv3iA WtWh9YoVEnItTbRUtJVMapEs9vuU..sbaNOAMCYWBjw_5qosjpX57AULommN 5lORhlzxq1sP.bLqKFGyLTCSn._bfDt8c8Y5yAi.Vg8Lc6oN2MsV8Uzt7oR5 uhEEAULRbggVLsgnoUs9DjWqbKLsoFZzer0D7Sn_Dgl2rHAaXkkzLnV0zol9 gcXDvr5wiZ2sXFHWv4lr_x13qw4SQ5Qk_M0tA_nl6L9E1XdABV2FWuLSedP9 dKTDVBXCgoGqLrDSZQTJsGqCKHg1Ovn.v_.fmTUn8B3DEyPrwFm8G5oJ_wCX mucV_1em.a7dQjWKGi1zUNgpenPV753VZmGigGxN5r_yIuS1hKP_NsOZaa5U WxrL8Pkr1AJnJAcLuRRSwlCLWrCLuicCT2hjASoK0VHbO9A1CeppjWtewjPA Elu79wD7AC3Ih4c.DmTdOm.oqGRldI4h6LsPi6mpRXFANx7VVUei.eUKQgsC ZA_Fs7Kf6_ChD by smtp216.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 03 Oct 2013 15:02:28 -0700 PDT From: deweerdm@rogers.com Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 18:02:23 -0400 To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] Floor pans Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici Has anyone had dealings with Classics2Current fabrications in Detroit? They have what seem to be full pans at 99.99 each just wondering if they are decent pans Thanks _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 3 16:11:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6F1F4052A for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 16:11:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d04.mx.aol.com (omr-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.201]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE35F4006C for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 16:11:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.197]) by omr-d04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id F326F70047C5C; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 18:10:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 28D06E0000F5; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 18:10:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 17:10:08 -0500 To: Bobby Whitehead x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1380838211; bh=xqP90jt0/S6vFIhcs9amyGqBExP0K3G6a0sI41/qis8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=syx9EsEmVFMb3ozSzsd8wQnLO5NM7zM148R/ljYjf3yE5efSxpvPJ905N+m5wdtjw ZQaLUK/R1sN4hepodoHFwCeU0P+XeY/SmPF2H1TEVf6ot+ZKdb/xsYnIY1hYXW8y+q fYa592qX0fYDB+g79bHldn/nBf7dIDNRxisPGnlE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c5524deb4125b1 Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Kas Newest Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Bobby..... When you get to be our age, you have to be optimistic. Joe Sent from my iPad > On Oct 3, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Bobby Whitehead wrote: > > Thank you very much Kas for the money shot of my GT-6+ in the latest edition DVD! Amazing wealth of information... still on the mend from a rebuild.. > > Thanks again Kas and Joe for all you guys do for the most optimistic group of folks I've ever had the pleasure and honor to run and hang with... > > Bobby Whitehead > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 3 17:28:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC39E4052D for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 17:28:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A2040433 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 17:28:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vwm15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (vwm15.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.10.45]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-9.20 (built Jul 15 2010)) with ESMTPA id <0MU40024D95A5C11@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for FOT@autox.team.net; Thu, 03 Oct 2013 19:27:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [67.83.138.143] by webtop.webmail.optimum.net with HTTP; Thu, 03 Oct 2013 19:27:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2013 19:27:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Redmond To: "alfetta95@optonline.net alfetta95@optonline.net" References: <30261aef.39af4.1417abcf66c.Webtop.50@optonline.net> User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Cell for TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thank you all for the information. Decisions, decisions Todd On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 03:55 PM, Todd Redmond wrote: > Friends, > > > I'm considering the ATL round 12 gal fuel cell listed below for the > TR3. > B It fits down in the spare tire well. Obviously, I would have to cut > the > trunk and fabricate a cover. B Anyone using this style? B Pros or > cons? > B Recommendations? > > > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/300918901930?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m > 1438.l2649 > > > Thanks > Todd > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 06:29:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6F640419 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 06:29:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (isis.mit.edu [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19BE7400AD for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 06:27:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r94CPZog017530; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 08:25:35 -0400 Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 08:25:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: deweerdm@rogers.com References: <63E1168C-F66F-4780-A5EB-F32D41117244@rogers.com> Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Floor pans Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The URL for this company is: c2cfabrication.com I have no direct experience with them (that I know of). Part of me wonders if they picked up the tooling from one of the body panel fabricators from "back in the day". The names escape me, but I used to have a couple of catalogs back in the 80's from at least a couple of companies that made panels and partial panels for pretty much everything. In any case, the web site looks promising. Regards, rml p.s. nice job getting your car BACK ON TRACK at ELVF! That was pretty kool IMHO. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 07:02:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5EE40519 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 07:02:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm43.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm43.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.87.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52F3D400AD for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 07:02:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.137.12.55] by nm43.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2013 13:00:44 -0000 Received: from [98.136.164.69] by tm15.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2013 13:00:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp231.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2013 13:00:44 -0000 s=s1024; t=1380891644; bh=SMpJbh0659YWnZ3RAk+/VGYpuv+VATkpMFnPWmIYeCs=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=CphAy7v5fmY3EKX6sKCCKC63l1yOZAIhkewk/w0Y4kwYF6/buUzXo1zVxszLKzfOin/ct9EV9REByzkaLCiSa5+mj+0am/jhlQWc37Bov95XPbCE5s+O3LXIG1zDXa12SY5wnGEMn9zIzegAXJ88IEmCygNsD4bNw3L6VLAHdDo= pVyR2FTgxhUFdud3MItAj8i3mY56XTcbtgzaCV9bhs8LA.NqYcGBwkqUBW8r nLLOn6L12X9YCNzKouHRzh_RErVCNthOUbX04alCSvbC.e3Z4se94tHk1Kh1 wd8BWDJ9f6TUWf51sIoMxVsb6czB0TesttLunm7kKzV0_khF5kodBQD2j3to sK3gVgYLgkZwlwt_G0Pzv6g5HVIjqIYeuXadXqr2a2bt3i97_3ADDT08GblT w3_VRS6OXzUbz3FBtk2gViMz9mXOn6LDW0G9R9IT27s8haZrmV8GmDr09ci2 RG8AgQyKGIBe7ViTWUjOmTcFpYemPQAS0FJMkiwP5LLE4NpIdU.5AmNOYZFx 2T37ByixJC.uasFks4N3hy9TLFaatUWpAfk6_GmGggWfdCfV.0HuBKoTcuD8 YPXNQT.mNfZHCMjUBEzQPOUTHXxsJ40aaWkgazEh0DqVN4B3Bc35EmC7V8qb bLBEOcvo5dlwu0Pg1K7kzqKRUtZZdL5TIv50fbibWKGuBHmfLY9WsvAEi7Zg nJtC1AuX8R9idH.nFPWvbWFSN9PfLE_yedYauxxdanZy0R39NJY_rG6.VRiN TV7eNOlkoS7zOpX7HB17YiFIYm.AApqc5QTEkhCw_fbILsNuyRdm.H4e4 smtp231.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 04 Oct 2013 13:00:44 +0000 UTC References: <63E1168C-F66F-4780-A5EB-F32D41117244@rogers.com> From: deweerdm@rogers.com Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 09:00:35 -0400 To: "Robert M. Lang" Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Floor pans Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sounds like the pans may be of poor quality so you get what you pay for again. Found the website when looking for a frame for my TR4 good to know first hand from FoT members Sent from my iPhone On 2013-10-04, at 8:25 AM, "Robert M. Lang" wrote: > > > The URL for this company is: > > c2cfabrication.com > > I have no direct experience with them (that I know of). > > Part of me wonders if they picked up the tooling from one of the body panel fabricators from "back in the day". The names escape me, but I used to have a couple of catalogs back in the 80's from at least a couple of companies that made panels and partial panels for pretty much everything. > > In any case, the web site looks promising. > > Regards, > rml > > p.s. nice job getting your car BACK ON TRACK at ELVF! That was pretty kool IMHO. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 07:15:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB4740513 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 07:15:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0472E400AD for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 07:14:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20131004131316.OVEG6169.mta11.charter.net@imp10> for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 09:13:16 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([66.227.248.126]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id Z1DF1m00H2kNDRN051DGvB; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 09:13:16 -0400 a=CJKe2SHHetjBh2+vfkuEoQ==:17 a=KiVbQdkf6L0A:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=meYbcNm743EA:10 a=J6iC5VBGAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=DXnfg3_I0Kw8T9yja4UA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=noQjv9YW-iYA:10 a=KTDso90Uc2QA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=ZVJWqbD0C98A:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=CJKe2SHHetjBh2+vfkuEoQ==:117 Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2013 09:13:15 -0400 From: Glenn Franco User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <63E1168C-F66F-4780-A5EB-F32D41117244@rogers.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Floor pans Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I contacted the owner of this company directly last year. They are a local company near Detroit, Mi The floor pans are soft tooled (Big 3 engineering term for temp tools). The floor pans are not comparable to the British Motor Heritage floor pans available from the British Parts Suppliers. If you have the body off, I would not recommend these as they do not have the ~3" downstanding flange that connects to the lower rocker. There are also no holes or weld nuts for the tunnel. I would consider this a patch panel to drop in rather than a factory repair part. FYI Glenn On 10/4/2013 8:25 AM, Robert M. Lang wrote: > The URL for this company is: > > c2cfabrication.com > > I have no direct experience with them (that I know of). > > Part of me wonders if they picked up the tooling from one of the body > panel fabricators from "back in the day". The names escape me, but I > used to have a couple of catalogs back in the 80's from at least a > couple of companies that made panels and partial panels for pretty > much everything. > > In any case, the web site looks promising. > > Regards, > rml > > p.s. nice job getting your car BACK ON TRACK at ELVF! That was pretty > kool IMHO. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gaf3@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 09:39:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 593E940413 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 09:39:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm1-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm1-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.161]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DECB403F3 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 09:39:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2013 15:37:54 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.37] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2013 15:37:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2013 15:37:54 -0000 s=s1024; t=1380901074; bh=CLLnGwJJ1XqiX87FkaKoMSCuv6zMt4Qazt+PB0BAyEk=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=qFWR2DHr3iCMaqU6i527kzEVXEgfOLBc8KWtNbM3uCvXisWfp4Zow/dA73PT39vPY+pMuplFhqm9dOaE77X7T/0EDBcaHoT+GfhVUBr99Q7Y8KWNAlubx6ih9n4i5xqfbniAihMmRUmE2Eo5PTWR9Axq5oSRjnsthVr8AlgJCRk= FP33iFvmaHmv2WYtUMuyeKl4FC.yZHA5vj4YVZtFMNkdaMNrFjLo.eRs2bKf MiwUUqDYpslbql0gXTo8vm_3WyiKmCNIVpKJRHR9FWqjv9U_y8mwLGvjEFsh Ak_PpzN7.S0YC9ajPi0esSZIsEEIBeF5Un7nf2WCJaf2J6BWQxWzUpcGHraT t1vZ34WkFINRrkamwXiFxdHNoVv3YSDIWy1yEr7K0tuvZEHZUEB3CC92SI9r 74Q4wh6gPXoJpvy_umlDHJphTZI4F4Z0ALtM3ZyQ1ZSXbYKfGDXGIiR_0G0B Xg9KUqLPwH74Th9HOQyZ05DRkIYIXzP0G.AswLW3Qi7rFq_UE8UP.wBjaCI7 dg1XclM2CWLaV.fEyelysXcYP6ULfdZrzkL2I1iaPR3KxGl31.KSBPgzw3cp 3cBcN_EX5.YDP7PGycCb4FABde0yypgtpgojfBf0rOxViw5_5oL.2izNOceZ SVDj7sHkASJuLnyVwLjERFZDOhWdZ_K2pKFK66x53hzuxp200E6mTA6H35qe iJRvjKgv4x8MlJ7bkjvizlLJgm2HMUpLDiHM2pDq_pCcUM4FqNrFE7iYC6nt SgMj2lyRjDhKFg1c..gFhpF9HiaHSF7kMACrP0N31CZKQUn8HNJ.3vwpOHeE PsU56LjVC0yA- smtp105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 04 Oct 2013 08:37:54 -0700 PDT References: <63E1168C-F66F-4780-A5EB-F32D41117244@rogers.com> <524EBEEB.2020406@charter.net> From: deweerdm@rogers.com Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 11:37:46 -0400 To: Glenn Franco Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Floor pans Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for the great info Glenn Robert I hope you are talking about getting back on track at RA by welding up the frame in the paddock and not my turn 14 excursion .....which was very cool too.....not sure who at RA I should bill for putting those 2 corn furrows in ...lol Sent from my iPhone On 2013-10-04, at 9:13 AM, Glenn Franco wrote: > I contacted the owner of this company directly last year. They are a local company near Detroit, Mi > The floor pans are soft tooled (Big 3 engineering term for temp tools). > The floor pans are not comparable to the British Motor Heritage floor pans available from the British Parts Suppliers. > If you have the body off, I would not recommend these as they do not have the ~3" downstanding flange that connects to the lower rocker. > There are also no holes or weld nuts for the tunnel. > I would consider this a patch panel to drop in rather than a factory repair part. > FYI > Glenn > > > On 10/4/2013 8:25 AM, Robert M. Lang wrote: >> The URL for this company is: >> >> c2cfabrication.com >> >> I have no direct experience with them (that I know of). >> >> Part of me wonders if they picked up the tooling from one of the body panel fabricators from "back in the day". The names escape me, but I used to have a couple of catalogs back in the 80's from at least a couple of companies that made panels and partial panels for pretty much everything. >> >> In any case, the web site looks promising. >> >> Regards, >> rml >> >> p.s. nice job getting your car BACK ON TRACK at ELVF! That was pretty kool IMHO. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent >> Former NER Solo Chair | >> Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gaf3@charter.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/deweerdm@rogers.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 13:04:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107FB40512 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 13:04:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B13403A0 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 13:03:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [76.84.97.85] ([76.84.97.85:2329] helo=guinanhp) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 89/F6-16944-BB01F425; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 19:02:19 +0000 From: "Joe Guinan" To: References: Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 14:05:58 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac7BK6NuLxcWongCRxW50FF4QHkRhQACAzrQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] Kastner A7 in 1147 Spitfire Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Friends, I've finally installed the used Kastner A7 cam in my 1147 race engine and am having trouble getting it timed correctly. When I set the #2 valve (intake on #1 Cylinder) to open at 42 degrees, I cannot get the closing number anywhere close. It's at 60 something on closing. Haven't even checked where the #1 valve starts to open, as this seems so wrong. Specs I received from FOT Aaron Johnson are below. - Inlet opens 42 Inlet Closes 76 - Exhaust opens 76 Exhaust close 42 - Duration 293 Lift at valve .410 - Checking clearance at the camshaft is .013 - Rocker arm clearance is .020 Information I received from Kas himself is close to the above; "That cam was done early on but it will work fine. The timing is Inlet 42-71 and the exhaust is 71-42. The cam has 293 degree duration and .410 lift at the valve. As I remember the checking clearance is .013" and the running clearance is .020"." Kas also added, "Just for your information I believe that cam is done on a factory billet meaning that the base circle is very close to the stock diameter. Check to see if it is. If so, you can get a dynamite cam profile put on that cam at Moon Equipment. You cannot E-mail them but phone and ask for Bill Jenks and then tell him you want the A-10-A. This will go onto that cam fine if it is the factory billet I used for lots of the camshafts. That was the latest grind (54 - 90 and the gross lift is .517" )and it was terrific but you do need high compression to deal with it." Note the difference in closing measurements in the two sets of specs? I know I have TDC on the crank set correctly. I'm seeing 42 degrees on the degree wheel when the dial indicator on the top of the pushrod shows the valve has opened .013 inch. The valve stays open like it should for most of a rotation but is only at 60 something on the degree wheel when it has closed to only being open .013 inch. What am I missing / not understanding? I already have the head installed, but I'm about ready to pull the cam out and get a new one, or follow Kas's suggestion to send it out for a regrind. I am running high compression with "pop-up" pistons. Something about this cam just doesn't seem right, and adds to my suspicions about running a used cam in this newly rebuilt engine. Hate to spend the money and time, but if I have to do it, I might as well do it now. Thoughts and opinions welcome... Thanks, "Jedi" Joe Guinan Fremont, NE _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 13:17:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B49840514 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 13:17:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37CBA403FE for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 13:16:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::6cde:eb6b:bc22:8b9b%11]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 14:15:26 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: 'Joe Guinan' , "fot@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Fot] Kastner A7 in 1147 Spitfire Questions Thread-Index: Ac7BK6NuLxcWongCRxW50FF4QHkRhQACAzrQAACLtnA= Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 19:15:25 +0000 References: <007601cec134$c2c9ac60$485d0520$@rr.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner A7 in 1147 Spitfire Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net << you can get a dynamite cam profile put on that cam at Moon Equipment. You cannot E-mail them but phone and ask for Bill Jenks >> Sadly, not any more. Moon told me recently that they are OUT of the cams business. Bill Jenks has retired. I damaged my A-10-A cam some time ago and was not able to have them grind a new one for me. Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Guinan Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 2:06 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Kastner A7 in 1147 Spitfire Questions Friends, I've finally installed the used Kastner A7 cam in my 1147 race engine and am having trouble getting it timed correctly. When I set the #2 valve (intake on #1 Cylinder) to open at 42 degrees, I cannot get the closing number anywhere close. It's at 60 something on closing. Haven't even checked where the #1 valve starts to open, as this seems so wrong. Specs I received from FOT Aaron Johnson are below. - Inlet opens 42 Inlet Closes 76 - Exhaust opens 76 Exhaust close 42 - Duration 293 Lift at valve .410 - Checking clearance at the camshaft is .013 - Rocker arm clearance is .020 Information I received from Kas himself is close to the above; "That cam was done early on but it will work fine. The timing is Inlet 42-71 and the exhaust is 71-42. The cam has 293 degree duration and .410 lift at the valve. As I remember the checking clearance is .013" and the running clearance is .020"." Kas also added, "Just for your information I believe that cam is done on a factory billet meaning that the base circle is very close to the stock diameter. Check to see if it is. If so, you can get a dynamite cam profile put on that cam at Moon Equipment. You cannot E-mail them but phone and ask for Bill Jenks and then tell him you want the A-10-A. This will go onto that cam fine if it is the factory billet I used for lots of the camshafts. That was the latest grind (54 - 90 and the gross lift is .517" )and it was terrific but you do need high compression to deal with it." Note the difference in closing measurements in the two sets of specs? I know I have TDC on the crank set correctly. I'm seeing 42 degrees on the degree wheel when the dial indicator on the top of the pushrod shows the valve has opened .013 inch. The valve stays open like it should for most of a rotation but is only at 60 something on the degree wheel when it has closed to only being open .013 inch. What am I missing / not understanding? I already have the head installed, but I'm about ready to pull the cam out and get a new one, or follow Kas's suggestion to send it out for a regrind. I am running high compression with "pop-up" pistons. Something about this cam just doesn't seem right, and adds to my suspicions about running a used cam in this newly rebuilt engine. Hate to spend the money and time, but if I have to do it, I might as well do it now. Thoughts and opinions welcome... Thanks, "Jedi" Joe Guinan Fremont, NE _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 13:54:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C0E40450 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 13:54:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f180.google.com (mail-pd0-f180.google.com [209.85.192.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD30403FE for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 13:53:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f180.google.com with SMTP id y10so4426247pdj.39 for ; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 12:52:17 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=oxHEOWtvD/t1vkd4X5EjN3KC6inU6MoBkuT1Rl9ufCs=; b=ehlxY+eN5cKYax3VfoxphDTbcxYDX+aENvIOxU6GwAznkMmmGf/Wk+J2olRlI5odmc XwLDf3KJ7h2+huTpqVIm/AYx16Cum0dfR8mUnN2jILD+q2aFZ0oUQo+DCdvR5TOgsCPp pjBIieCKwKxsQ9a/B39IPTFxpxO7WF0cAPGzwMniqwZPub+mpXHEU2/78Fb0pnu+5WSL Wr6aOZ8ld1hJRD+8GAhfi/bxZWtgKDvXuicEN1BL6C1RqH/xcE8SAMfTmUH69HNonZ4t Y7JyT+vwS37Qie1ElSrXUc3IqZSiI0rG3gtUolxPKIb25dxA37zxEBlL6DlBrY/SclO2 FA3g== af1mr16390196pbc.22.1380916337548; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 12:52:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.248.39 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 12:51:37 -0700 (PDT) References: <007601cec134$c2c9ac60$485d0520$@rr.com> From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 12:51:37 -0700 To: Joe Guinan Cc: Friends Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner A7 in 1147 Spitfire Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Is your maximum lift at 108 degrees atdc [assuming no built in retard?]. Figures you give indicae 300 degree of opening. half of that is 150. 15042 = 108 which is where max lift should be. On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Joe Guinan wrote: > Friends, > > I've finally installed the used Kastner A7 cam in my 1147 race engine and > am > having trouble getting it timed correctly. When I set the #2 valve (intake > on #1 Cylinder) to open at 42 degrees, I cannot get the closing number > anywhere close. It's at 60 something on closing. Haven't even checked where > the #1 valve starts to open, as this seems so wrong. > > Specs I received from FOT Aaron Johnson are below. > - Inlet opens 42 Inlet Closes 76 > - Exhaust opens 76 Exhaust close 42 > - Duration 293 Lift at valve .410 > - Checking clearance at the camshaft is .013 > - Rocker arm clearance is .020 > > Information I received from Kas himself is close to the above; > "That cam was done early on but it will work fine. The timing is Inlet > 42-71 > and the exhaust is 71-42. The cam has 293 degree duration and .410 lift at > the valve. As I remember the checking clearance is .013" and the running > clearance is .020"." > > Kas also added, "Just for your information I believe that cam is done on a > factory billet meaning that the base circle is very close to the stock > diameter. Check to see if it is. If so, you can get a dynamite cam > profile > put on that cam at Moon Equipment. You cannot E-mail them but phone and ask > for Bill Jenks and then tell him you want the A-10-A. This will go onto > that > cam fine if it is the factory billet I used for lots of the camshafts. That > was the latest grind (54 - 90 and the gross lift is .517" )and it was > terrific but you do need high compression to deal with it." > > Note the difference in closing measurements in the two sets of specs? > > I know I have TDC on the crank set correctly. I'm seeing 42 degrees on the > degree wheel when the dial indicator on the top of the pushrod shows the > valve has opened .013 inch. The valve stays open like it should for most of > a rotation but is only at 60 something on the degree wheel when it has > closed to only being open .013 inch. > > What am I missing / not understanding? > > I already have the head installed, but I'm about ready to pull the cam out > and get a new one, or follow Kas's suggestion to send it out for a regrind. > I am running high compression with "pop-up" pistons. Something about this > cam just doesn't seem right, and adds to my suspicions about running a used > cam in this newly rebuilt engine. Hate to spend the money and time, but if > I > have to do it, I might as well do it now. > > Thoughts and opinions welcome... > > > Thanks, > > "Jedi" > Joe Guinan > Fremont, NE > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 14:05:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81BBA40510 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 14:05:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm32-vm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm32-vm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.216.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756EB403FE for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 14:05:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.137.12.60] by nm32.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2013 20:03:44 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.192] by tm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2013 20:03:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1079.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2013 20:03:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 11636 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Oct 2013 20:03:43 -0000 s=s1024; t=1380917023; bh=DVzjcga1ko0mWbkagPLskCNGRqal13rpfoDNZiFntao=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wAetDfeLX9yDKaU124HOtyORFy49l+SylzhG3kYc8vDN7syV4PFcAM69IK0WsbSfXwBqc+zBWV0Mi42g+0s3ApopBX5Jl0TFMnqfzEV+tR96Xi98pujge2mvtGkvSiGLR49NhW8i2gXu7/QcBTX6LWOFW8MK/mT2VSjHDP4dkaw= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cY/mIp3P0wAcj2l2RWKh3mE/csRmvG8s069l+Bt1guzO0L+F+Ekm3BtS0iA41k8+OjdaqCtphtnoSE/+4wd+OZI9x38sWHuvjGsY7st0uFAJNBi+EvuBs20ZCssIsRGXi9yOGju0t+z39chOfw2fpLF63lnmCoHzomlu6umRQBA=; WmnJHKyl6Dpcni6EBXT2V7GLdJxBpS2e38to02822woDhi6AS5NCQ4vDN0iK 70b8y8J2BZRFYc.dz_bhhnMtv_w3_8Xe3gMhDt5gkRnaQyHu60Uiuxcnx4oS 4GXqaMTgzsFRpiiwUpGqZdCPdWupLGyk2rrYpfbNLlrmk38d0C8oVSeyTW9Y 6ssYHTBo3MUOy9aJbg0k3QY7_Cr5mV7sJrWEhRZDeUiWvQeJy7ffFE3qJu8G CQ.sH1tOfABnfaoGmaI7IhQPDbyCr6SzNf4WMivaavdbs3FI87ws7QYIHhLp c6UjDFhPNGvrOxqOdbMMOu_fVgIsXgN8wtWRep0O9loJUiyHjbq2Z9yJKxFY LNUkxTw21SKAuzun3ZB3Pt.XHn9wa44oIdRh5iCGL0ycwxCrEJukbLQk8303 b3XGAASdb99KE0SMDRjAbs.atPer0IU5APLn1qActMZVPVCpMXlTCj3okOM9 hSCBb8VbtE.k546rc5XC3SvKLRMYwldol5iKiG56XapzgQcJZ80qw3rp7DfH lzPaRkMmhbnkRGVk5TbJSmTAeqA-- Received: from [64.196.19.194] by web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 13:03:43 PDT QWZ0ZXIgdGhlIDEwMDAgbWlsZXMgb24gdGhlIFNwaXRmaXJlIHRvIGFuZCBmcm9tIFJvYWQgQW1lcmljYSBmb3IgdGhlIEthc3RuZXIgQ3VwLCBteSBkaWZmZXJlbnRpYWwgc3RhcnRlZCBtYWtpbmcgc29tZSBub2lzZXMgYW5kIGxlYWtpbmcgbW9yZSB0aGFuIEkgd291bGQgbGlrZS4gSXQgZGlkIGdldCBteSB3aWZlIGFuZCBJIGJhY2sgaG9tZSBzYWZlbHkgd2l0aCBubyBwcm9ibGVtcyBvdGhlciB0aGFuIHRoYXQuIFdlIGV2ZW4gZ290IGNoZWVzZSEgQSBzdWNjZXNzIGluIG15IGJvb2suIFRoaXMgcmVidWkBMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 13:03:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Shawn Frank To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Spitfire MKIV Diff Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net After the 1000 miles on the Spitfire to and from Road America for the Kastner Cup, my differential started making some noises and leaking more than I would like. It did get my wife and I back home safely with no problems other than that. We even got cheese! A success in my book. This rebuild will be the very last thing I need to rebuild to make this a completed restoration. Not completely done, just completed (for now). I have purchased all the bearings and seals to refurbish this 42 year old diff (Spitfire MKIV), but have never dug into a differential of any kind before. Do I need a special tool or two? Can I get to the inner and outer carrier bearings and output shafts without taking the gear assembly out? I am missing a Rally Cross and an Auto Cross event and it is killing me! I still haven't track tested my new suspension, aside from touring laps and parade lap on the 4 miles of black magic that is Road America (Joe Alexander). Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated. I plan to look in a Kastner Prep handbook tonight and a couple other repair manuals, but the workshop manual (Haynes or Chiltons, I can't recall) says that someone qualified should disassemble. Who listens to that?! I hope to get to it tomorrow... Shawn Frank Spitfire & GT6 Magazine Continued Legacy Friends of Triumph/NASS#746/BCCI 71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV 80 Triumph Spitfire 1500 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 14:11:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 897BA40513 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 14:11:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp450.redcondor.net (smtp450.redcondor.net [208.80.204.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D838B403FE for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 14:07:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cgp.netins.net ([167.142.228.73]) by smtp450.redcondor.net ({4ad064a1-3618-4418-b4ee-963987bff397}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20131004200544491; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 20:05:44 +0000 Received: from [208.126.78.151] (account riverside@southslope.net HELO rileyPC) by cgpf1.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.13) with ESMTPA id 608370566; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 15:05:37 -0500 From: To: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" , "Joe Guinan" References: <007601cec134$c2c9ac60$485d0520$@rr.com> Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 15:05:26 -0500 Cc: Friends Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner A7 in 1147 Spitfire Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Maximum lift does not necessarily occur at the lobe center. Maybe it does on this one, but a lot of cams I have dialed in have the point of maximum lift a few degrees off of lobe center. art de armond -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 2:51 PM To: Joe Guinan Cc: Friends Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner A7 in 1147 Spitfire Questions Is your maximum lift at 108 degrees atdc [assuming no built in retard?]. Figures you give indicae 300 degree of opening. half of that is 150. 15042 = 108 which is where max lift should be. On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Joe Guinan wrote: > Friends, > > I've finally installed the used Kastner A7 cam in my 1147 race engine and > am > having trouble getting it timed correctly. When I set the #2 valve (intake > on #1 Cylinder) to open at 42 degrees, I cannot get the closing number > anywhere close. It's at 60 something on closing. Haven't even checked > where > the #1 valve starts to open, as this seems so wrong. > > Specs I received from FOT Aaron Johnson are below. > - Inlet opens 42 Inlet Closes 76 > - Exhaust opens 76 Exhaust close 42 > - Duration 293 Lift at valve .410 > - Checking clearance at the camshaft is .013 > - Rocker arm clearance is .020 > > Information I received from Kas himself is close to the above; > "That cam was done early on but it will work fine. The timing is Inlet > 42-71 > and the exhaust is 71-42. The cam has 293 degree duration and .410 lift at > the valve. As I remember the checking clearance is .013" and the running > clearance is .020"." > > Kas also added, "Just for your information I believe that cam is done on a > factory billet meaning that the base circle is very close to the stock > diameter. Check to see if it is. If so, you can get a dynamite cam > profile > put on that cam at Moon Equipment. You cannot E-mail them but phone and > ask > for Bill Jenks and then tell him you want the A-10-A. This will go onto > that > cam fine if it is the factory billet I used for lots of the camshafts. > That > was the latest grind (54 - 90 and the gross lift is .517" )and it was > terrific but you do need high compression to deal with it." > > Note the difference in closing measurements in the two sets of specs? > > I know I have TDC on the crank set correctly. I'm seeing 42 degrees on the > degree wheel when the dial indicator on the top of the pushrod shows the > valve has opened .013 inch. The valve stays open like it should for most > of > a rotation but is only at 60 something on the degree wheel when it has > closed to only being open .013 inch. > > What am I missing / not understanding? > > I already have the head installed, but I'm about ready to pull the cam out > and get a new one, or follow Kas's suggestion to send it out for a > regrind. > I am running high compression with "pop-up" pistons. Something about this > cam just doesn't seem right, and adds to my suspicions about running a > used > cam in this newly rebuilt engine. Hate to spend the money and time, but if > I > have to do it, I might as well do it now. > > Thoughts and opinions welcome... > > > Thanks, > > "Jedi" > Joe Guinan > Fremont, NE > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside@southslope.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4142 / Virus Database: 3604/6721 - Release Date: 10/03/13 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 14:52:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A630940513 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 14:52:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81DC8403FE for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 14:51:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.99.61] (c-76-99-29-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [76.99.29.73]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.08(7.0.4.27.7) 64bit (built Aug 22 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0MU50078JWJEBJ80@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for FOT@autox.team.net; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 20:50:04 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-10-04_04:2013-10-04,2013-10-04,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1308280000 definitions=main-1310040114 From: Scott Janzen Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2013 16:50:03 -0400 References: <1380917023.9853.YahooMailNeo@web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: Shawn Frank Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire MKIV Diff Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, Shawn: Have done this on my GT6 and yours will be similar. If you are just replacing the output stub shaft bearings and seals, you don't need any special tools. On the GT6, you can disconnect the halfshafts and pull the stub s with the diff in the car, though its certainly easier on the bench. Noises - I like to do things once, so I would pull the whole unit out and figure out where the noise is coming from - it may be the pinion bearings, the stub shaft bearings or likely the ring and pinion gears. If your pinion seal is leaking, replacing it is a project. I think you need to pull the diff and totally disassemble it, though if someone has a shortcut I'm all ears. I've never been able to pry one out from the front with the pinion shaft in place, so the following instructions apply to total disassembly. You need a factory manual for instructions and tolerances, but it is easy to follow. You will need a dial indicator, a micrometer (to measure shim thicknesses accurately), a good torque wrench, and I suggest a differential housing spreader. The last item is because the differential carrier with bearings is several thousandths of an inch wider than the housing (3/1000 on a TR4) to put a pre-load on the bearings. I asked questions about removing the differential carrier recently for the TR4 - some said I could remove the carrier without a spreader - you might want to read those emails about two weeks ago - but I found it easy to make one out of two pieces of 2" angle iron and some 5/8" all-thread rod and the same thing will work for a Spit diff. If you do have to make adjustments to the shims/re-load, etc, the spreader makes things much easier. Have fun - it's pretty simple in there! Scott On Oct 4, 2013, at 4:03 PM, Shawn Frank wrote: After the 1000 miles on the Spitfire to and from Road America for the Kastner Cup, my differential started making some noises and leaking more than I would like. It did get my wife and I back home safely with no problems other than that. We even got cheese! A success in my book. This rebuild will be the very last thing I need to rebuild to make this a completed restoration. Not completely done, just completed (for now). I have purchased all the bearings and seals to refurbish this 42 year old diff (Spitfire MKIV), but have never dug into a differential of any kind before. Do I need a special tool or two? Can I get to the inner and outer carrier bearings and output shafts without taking the gear assembly out? I am missing a Rally Cross and an Auto Cross event and it is killing me! I still haven't track tested my new suspension, aside from touring laps and parade lap on the 4 miles of black magic that is Road America (Joe Alexander). Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated. I plan to look in a Kastner Prep handbook tonight and a couple other repair manuals, but the workshop manual (Haynes or Chiltons, I can't recall) says that someone qualified should disassemble. Who listens to that?! I hope to get to it tomorrow... Shawn Frank Spitfire & GT6 Magazine Continued Legacy Friends of Triumph/NASS#746/BCCI 71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV 80 Triumph Spitfire 1500 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 16:05:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C8B40510 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 16:05:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm27-vm7.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm27-vm7.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0F04006D for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 16:05:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.167] by nm27.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2013 22:03:42 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.162] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2013 22:03:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1028.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2013 22:03:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 47535 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Oct 2013 22:03:42 -0000 s=s1024; t=1380924222; bh=EFZzgUvRl2270TFJsBoIu0yEr5p+9JFyo8qUVBnG7EQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rrNlAR7ae81jRnee7AFqLYrsFXszfC7du/4oUTfudKZURE+Sj18WmrDBYobm0Nrv/CiE9Znk82hdBjopUfvd1WSzYe4OwWYP6P0EsEr+ycx6/RSkXU3n3fgJDCNpjv7NIHcCELmhXHpPbsV3n4tOseqekOLWUt8EcUDTJ3wNRdA= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=x5Kom8kbveLgrfC5K7h7DFzP0da5QUFNjcbGsdTxdN0LZZqYxoh9QSA3mDfk4CHtEOIxz6DQoazLcafTDX5zb5hzUyV1AU4c10YVtmyKZRtI4lR9rybMNhcSzcxfpkBotoaPoz6cBPr8/mncQxTz229rGEaUE8KVKUO9/McPsZk=; iv0lrClBJM1s8JcJuI2gx6ISN5BgI3svOZaNb7EJtvtHDqY41F5fRsyJBll_ LysnJxqIwBCqROBB6wldSVC0aUE6X63Ad9IY2EvoGS5EZDYNqlKOomQwxIQc c9FoZcv2.39pFHuyDZrLwy4Sb88xDJPQtt06OQvQ.xWBSVfMUL5OcAfDOW0l bPrBOh559Rc49pFysmOWkFoUOetoXzWucY3I6k_sizd49F15HY.l.ibiYS8a KSPfD8L11MjS7.2vl4gkuzvfud_GUeBN30EBcMMKaMWsYDKMie34j1ifwD2Q 5FuR9nlYnL.OP5rqIzKPTcvnzaT38uTglKibWhHgL2BZKGtqUrCfdHd2O4af 0zNn9aJ2dLlO94S1kHDvD3Ho78k1e2MIHkaJLVF6WremYDxCUtYqUkhoq2l4 1pmVIdV2LV2eghuLQY_nO8k34zH8fAzT8skHu3SbMFA1AFLfQB4mKgrynsJa KePwHnvcf9BE.8C8KwSi5t03nEMybhLaJ9mHOAwA.oaxgfkzPXi4XwW8kXFH GPlpF293f9rJ1V_bayvB3EJsq9f_9CvpITRKh57WGVh0cu0luRsu3rA5d6aD eLUn4dUVcVaStNOBgJhYPgna9wNtFz6MdwV_bix0PzdMd Received: from [99.162.149.142] by web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 15:03:41 PDT Sm9lLCAKwqAKVGhlIG51bWJlcnMgeW91IGhhdmUgZnJvbSBBYXJvbiAoYWxzbyBpbiBvbmUgb2YgdGhlIG9sZGVyIGNvbXAgbWFudWFscykgYXJlIHN1c3BlY3QsIGFzIHRoZXkgZG9uJ3QgYWRkIHVwLgo0MiArIDE4MCArIDc2ID0gMTk4IGR1cmF0aW9uLgrCoApUaGXCoGFjdHVhbCBtZWFzdXJlZCBkdXJhdGlvbiBvbiBteSBBN8Kgd2FzIDE5MS4KwqAKVGhpcyB3YXMgbXkgdmFsdmUgdGltaW5nIGJlZm9yZSByZWJ1aWxkaW5nIG15IGVuZ2luZS4gSSBjYW4ndCBmaW5kIG15ICdhZnRlciByZWJ1aWxkJyBub3QBMAEBAQE- References: <007601cec134$c2c9ac60$485d0520$@rr.com> Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 15:03:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Pettenati To: Joe Guinan , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner A7 in 1147 Spitfire Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe, The numbers you have from Aaron (also in one of the older comp manuals) are suspect, as they don't add up. 42 + 180 + 76 = 198 duration. The actual measured duration on my A7 was 191. This was my valve timing before rebuilding my engine. I can't find my 'after rebuild' notes. Checking clearance is .013 Inlet opens 44 Inlet Closes 67 Exhaust opens 74 Exhaust close 37 I had Elgin regrind my A7. Before you go for a new cam, have your old one checked by a cam guy. If your cam is one of the original factory billet, a tell-tale sign is that the fuel pump lobe was never ground, it's probably worth checking to see if it is useable as is or needs to be reground. Regards, Tim From: Joe Guinan To: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 12:05 PM Subject: [Fot] Kastner A7 in 1147 Spitfire Questions Friends, I've finally installed the used Kastner A7 cam in my 1147 race engine and am having trouble getting it timed correctly. When I set the #2 valve (intake on #1 Cylinder) to open at 42 degrees, I cannot get the closing number anywhere close. It's at 60 something on closing. Haven't even checked where the #1 valve starts to open, as this seems so wrong. Specs I received from FOT Aaron Johnson are below. - Inlet opens 42 Inlet Closes 76 - Exhaust opens 76 Exhaust close 42 - Duration 293 Lift at valve .410 - Checking clearance at the camshaft is .013 - Rocker arm clearance is .020 Information I received from Kas himself is close to the above; "That cam was done early on but it will work fine. The timing is Inlet 42-71 and the exhaust is 71-42. The cam has 293 degree duration and .410 lift at the valve. As I remember the checking clearance is .013" and the running clearance is .020"." Kas also added, "Just for your information I believe that cam is done on a factory billet meaning that the base circle is very close to the stock diameter. Check to see if it is. If so, you can get a dynamite cam profile put on that cam at Moon Equipment. You cannot E-mail them but phone and ask for Bill Jenks and then tell him you want the A-10-A. This will go onto that cam fine if it is the factory billet I used for lots of the camshafts. That was the latest grind (54 - 90 and the gross lift is .517" )and it was terrific but you do need high compression to deal with it." Note the difference in closing measurements in the two sets of specs? I know I have TDC on the crank set correctly. I'm seeing 42 degrees on the degree wheel when the dial indicator on the top of the pushrod shows the valve has opened .013 inch. The valve stays open like it should for most of a rotation but is only at 60 something on the degree wheel when it has closed to only being open .013 inch. What am I missing / not understanding? I already have the head installed, but I'm about ready to pull the cam out and get a new one, or follow Kas's suggestion to send it out for a regrind. I am running high compression with "pop-up" pistons. Something about this cam just doesn't seem right, and adds to my suspicions about running a used cam in this newly rebuilt engine. Hate to spend the money and time, but if I have to do it, I might as well do it now. Thoughts and opinions welcome... Thanks, "Jedi" Joe Guinan Fremont, NE _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/1964spitfire@pacbell.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 16:39:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC69040530 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 16:39:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655F140413 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 16:39:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [76.84.97.85] ([76.84.97.85:4144] helo=guinanhp) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 3A/63-15529-C434F425; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 22:38:04 +0000 From: "Joe Guinan" To: References: Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 17:41:21 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac7BRC0qNfyq9lo0SkGkVR4F2Nm/pQADmbCQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner A7 in 1147 Spitfire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Regards to my friends, I think I may have found the problem with timing my camshaft. Working nights this weekend, so will get back at it on Monday or Tuesday and will let you know how it's going. Thanks for all the help! Jedi Joe Fremont, NE _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 18:08:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A47340538 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 18:08:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d03.mx.aol.com (omr-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 529F74051E for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 18:08:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.68]) by omr-d03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1E90A70129B59; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 20:07:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [75.215.42.82] (82.sub-75-215-42.myvzw.com [75.215.42.82]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 3D7F7E00A6C2; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 20:07:05 -0400 (EDT) References: <007601cec134$c2c9ac60$485d0520$@rr.com> <82BFCF3631841845BADD37BD9FE7EA733DEC7C34@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> From: Chuck Gee Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 17:07:02 -0700 To: "Barr, Scott" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1380931626; bh=WXUpXk3u83UkHTwLSVhvNv7fuu4lkNvxj7G7jWfgNw8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=pTlYLnbvGWHlDVFiktRNcVTnGCxrRbKb7jV9jzL0akn26fFCcinF444nACpC45ws0 zVov0lu1CfheD6F5WRwLr2Zwf3EkjmbMPExq6j6fRV4kiyy+lWlxs7lZGmEUB7w62/ hYfJDahGG9GE1HKVu7h4VgzHYzQmy4dEn6nyUwyo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2944524f582952d9 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" , Joe Guinan Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner A7 in 1147 Spitfire Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Send the cams to me. I developed another source for the A-10-A. Chuck > On Oct 4, 2013, at 12:15 PM, "Barr, Scott" wrote: > > << you can get a dynamite cam profile put on that cam at Moon Equipment. You > cannot E-mail them but phone and ask for Bill Jenks >> > > Sadly, not any more. Moon told me recently that they are OUT of the cams > business. Bill Jenks has retired. I damaged my A-10-A cam some time ago and > was not able to have them grind a new one for me. > > Scott B. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of Joe Guinan > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 2:06 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Kastner A7 in 1147 Spitfire Questions > > Friends, > > I've finally installed the used Kastner A7 cam in my 1147 race engine and am > having trouble getting it timed correctly. When I set the #2 valve (intake on > #1 Cylinder) to open at 42 degrees, I cannot get the closing number anywhere > close. It's at 60 something on closing. Haven't even checked where the #1 > valve starts to open, as this seems so wrong. > > Specs I received from FOT Aaron Johnson are below. > - Inlet opens 42 Inlet Closes 76 > - Exhaust opens 76 Exhaust close 42 > - Duration 293 Lift at valve .410 > - Checking clearance at the camshaft is .013 > - Rocker arm clearance is .020 > > Information I received from Kas himself is close to the above; "That cam was > done early on but it will work fine. The timing is Inlet 42-71 and the exhaust > is 71-42. The cam has 293 degree duration and .410 lift at the valve. As I > remember the checking clearance is .013" and the running clearance is .020"." > > Kas also added, "Just for your information I believe that cam is done on a > factory billet meaning that the base circle is very close to the stock > diameter. Check to see if it is. If so, you can get a dynamite cam profile > put on that cam at Moon Equipment. You cannot E-mail them but phone and ask > for Bill Jenks and then tell him you want the A-10-A. This will go onto that > cam fine if it is the factory billet I used for lots of the camshafts. That > was the latest grind (54 - 90 and the gross lift is .517" )and it was terrific > but you do need high compression to deal with it." > > Note the difference in closing measurements in the two sets of specs? > > I know I have TDC on the crank set correctly. I'm seeing 42 degrees on the > degree wheel when the dial indicator on the top of the pushrod shows the valve > has opened .013 inch. The valve stays open like it should for most of a > rotation but is only at 60 something on the degree wheel when it has closed to > only being open .013 inch. > > What am I missing / not understanding? > > I already have the head installed, but I'm about ready to pull the cam out and > get a new one, or follow Kas's suggestion to send it out for a regrind. > I am running high compression with "pop-up" pistons. Something about this cam > just doesn't seem right, and adds to my suspicions about running a used cam in > this newly rebuilt engine. Hate to spend the money and time, but if I have to > do it, I might as well do it now. > > Thoughts and opinions welcome... > > > Thanks, > > "Jedi" > Joe Guinan > Fremont, NE > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 19:43:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B624052A for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 19:43:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f53.google.com (mail-oa0-f53.google.com [209.85.219.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A5F40413 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 19:42:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id i7so4731558oag.40 for ; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 18:41:24 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=X24mFA86VVAdbDtnZRpBqMagkr3zopVNf3vKmlxmL3s=; b=TqzcilLrPJL2TEJ5w07g0YgnOPdKNXzwCwbS17GCddZkgos4rfEJ0G2VJ7LVD8+YZC jBj//K0ZM8SFGryU/eU7GMKnrpLPhMK558naG0kkuYRCYVTKPDiSfsJPLl+9oPCSC1Ar fDyD4LVzSyinh1DWmgVtg5GWtx5Zp1zp2oayVz0NBYMm3J0Dtjm7FbgmDu5QyIS32GtM isZa3Y10UmPF9PZFk1sxsDfe6H7Hju4Zo8Od4t5i9A5ReM+QDMImfmzz/Rtxr5/5sx9V pSh6TDjEs9Q0dms8rYaxpL3i+bpotP1L7JEqBrx6ojIZDEP3ynmoxlX1pnY8F+xJIUlS w/Lg== x5mr26632043oer.24.1380937283910; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 18:41:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id u3sm38841994oeq.3.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 04 Oct 2013 18:41:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 20:41:19 -0500 References: <5F66245A-4050-4632-962C-0C9337DE6880@gdhs.com> To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Cranks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Check with Greg Blake in Texas -- he ought to pop up here soon. Duncan On Oct 2, 2013, at 4:42 PM, John Hasty wrote: > My other attempt may not have made it; so, again. Does anyone have experience > with the billit cranks from the marine co in San Jose CA? Seems I need a new > crank after VIR. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 5 13:33:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B96E42BCA for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2013 13:33:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm25-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm25-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.62.72]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89EF64032A for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2013 12:51:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.172] by nm25.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Oct 2013 17:00:18 -0000 Received: from [67.195.22.118] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Oct 2013 17:00:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp113.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Oct 2013 17:00:18 -0000 As.jPwu9eVF0wLEADHr8tngb9R5eBwBkDWTLBYlHbOwWDhjijZMykGcPgH60 H.FGzRnsqomDghG_FMPy1cf9vqkUgrT1WcNqzejf0PfMcM39wzojr3i8hPzZ KA0zn_ZsqjkR8X5WB88_rvC..o7E1oE43QX1c0.cffn962Mit_orZxSDWVTV uSI8iPStv3XLcBkpyoB2NdYLMTrBnA2WT9_GO706Nxu3MB1H0rjLcNiR4eQ_ O2y9P21nXTiMiKTe5cqFOi_2dX59j4ijW48mhwxWzrLRBRrgOl6jPiq4By7K vKgl9Y_pHmzGEFhPZAysv1a3nC8Rc_V9XEeksn14HIM7AxMadfxhZlmOQacz eGQpWUBXu71B69M6Ju8mDN6hfquGyke3TvWFub8MnxmDmra8O9BBU7A5P5i7 jF_Qn39NQaJ7_z_lMtTRxhRa0ZfCrP6scSap1SJCHI0Wk8po1_Z4KYxLRo2u rX571mTMM2qQop4WOKvKs0_hWt9CyskNVgrYnUGsZ2FkhWezoDXCR3cte8fc JDRGxCUV8RSo65.vuq79mY7KE90Rw07URVbsO.wmzfcl.UQwBer.kz39bX4B jV53y.6cZfrCH7ct0R4mg2B9LZgUPzXAzuuP1hF6csLlkOasai1ePFVV4 smtp113.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 05 Oct 2013 10:00:17 -0700 PDT Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2013 12:00:31 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <007601cec134$c2c9ac60$485d0520$@rr.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner A7 in 1147 Spitfire Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Isn't the 0.013 supposed to be cam lift, not valve lift? I find it is much more accurate to set the cam by lobe center. At 0.013 you can get a lot of error because the lift changes so slowly. If the lobe is symmetric the center is at 108 for the 42-76 numbers. I would suggest you thoroughly degree the cam, i.e. measure the entire profile for #1 inlet and outlet. You can then determine what you've got regarding duration, lobe separation, profile symmetry, etc. I explain how on my website and provide a sample spreadsheet (http://tildentechnologies.com/Cams/Tips_Takes.html). Let me know if you need some help. Larry Young On 10/4/2013 Isn't2:05 PM, Joe Guinan wrote: > > I know I have TDC on the crank set correctly. I'm seeing 42 degrees on the > degree wheel when the dial indicator on the top of the pushrod shows the > valve has opened .013 inch. Ex _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 5 13:33:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928C542BFC for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2013 13:33:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm21-vm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm21-vm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED2C4038B for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2013 12:53:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.173] by nm21.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Oct 2013 17:02:10 -0000 Received: from [67.195.23.148] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Oct 2013 17:02:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp120.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Oct 2013 17:02:10 -0000 cBuCFffo9eBQvGFvkHtnIyhwq4JqSQrj2rOaf5ZvClvmM_CkawcIKIrt7MG_ XNviDqlO1H_1zYeJjrWmXpXTpn0_EIA4NwEC0p2Hywo4v9Yv3MvvhA62_buR 1egQrHNtWF2QCjr9r0dK3B2Fwg1vXg7Hh2eYMcN4lWJGowvWydx3e.vHrere 4K5_fqlVuW4omaO1.enBYqdhErOZMEOEi60bXJFlwoqPLq_gSz2F0ACsRssT XFQ6eetUUQprs3ChIEaXRwmVDOyWpeEnlU3UZVPHQBe5infzFUAkPYiz0whc KZC0mb8SApCbdoLF8fcIifwdi4H1If_ScCq3Wr6Ni86aLiiOxzkxyopXJ0f0 Ho_.Czh3K_m0EIWVSFvqVU4ZLTJgnFMAnwIuqidS8riqVgiYbp41cz_RPd4W q_yriPaM3VDo_mReLAuWRRF8nvcyjE7eJE.pwqxa2I07Uyvkld8hVnXWQXKd bhAcYZEQ45I14vzbYlnu993hO4Xpr61lta5AvySJ0UtRtiWXI.xYsMjL8if7 PqbegZj9OuWJR4SZUr0vuDqwhhefPg4wQN1mI6l5V.a4kLXaJELU1DXI7Bl4 pwebi4RtsvCSq_Y_390wVzW0SOZ.zATxFOy6GomleS6aQ67bP4HFGH20FWz4 u4g-- smtp120.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 05 Oct 2013 17:02:10 +0000 UTC Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2013 12:02:24 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <007601cec134$c2c9ac60$485d0520$@rr.com> <525045AF.80901@pobox.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner A7 in 1147 Spitfire Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That should have been lobe center at 107 not 108. On 10/5/2013 12:00 PM, Larry Young wrote: > Isn't the 0.013 supposed to be cam lift, not valve lift? I find it is > much more accurate to set the cam by lobe center. At 0.013 you can get > a lot of error because the lift changes so slowly. If the lobe is > symmetric the center is at 108 for the 42-76 numbers. I would suggest > you thoroughly degree the cam, i.e. measure the entire profile for #1 > inlet and outlet. You can then determine what you've got regarding > duration, lobe separation, profile symmetry, etc. I explain how on my > website and provide a sample spreadsheet > (http://tildentechnologies.com/Cams/Tips_Takes.html). Let me know if > you need some help. > Larry Young > > On 10/4/2013 Isn't2:05 PM, Joe Guinan wrote: >> >> I know I have TDC on the crank set correctly. I'm seeing 42 degrees >> on the >> degree wheel when the dial indicator on the top of the pushrod shows the >> valve has opened .013 inch. > Ex _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 5 13:37:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B94B42C5F for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2013 13:37:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0DF400AD; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 13:01:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vwm20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (vwm20.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.10.50]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-9.20 (built Jul 15 2010)) with ESMTPA id <0MU200JA3247TOH0@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 15:00:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [67.83.138.143] by webtop.webmail.optimum.net with HTTP; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 15:00:07 -0400 Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 15:00:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Redmond To: The Fooddude References: User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: 'Triumph' <6pack@autox.team.net>, 'Friends' Subject: Re: [Fot] One wire alternator for TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FWIW I use a Nippo Denso very small single wire unit on the Alfa race car. I can get the info on it when I get home if any interest. Todd On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 02:30 PM, The Fooddude wrote: > I second that from db electric.B > > Sent via and typos courtesy wireless handheld device. > > -------- Original message -------- > From: john hasty Date: 10/02/2013 10:54 AM (GMT-06:00) To: 'Chuck > Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley' ,'Friends' ,'Triumph' > <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] One wire alternator for TR6 > DB Electrical 423 477 2242 Part # AND525 $84.84 small one wire 85amps. > Perfect for a race car.B They are on the web if you want to see a > picture. > Been using it for 2 yrs with no problems.B > > John H. Hasty > Attorney At Law > Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. > 719 East Boulevard > Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 > Tele: (704) 372-5600 > Fax: (704) 372-4601 > E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com > www.gdhs.com > > PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:B This message (and any > attachments) is > intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information > that > is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK > PRODUCT. > If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that > any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited.B If you > have > received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the > message > and its attachments and notify us immediately.B Thank you. > > IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE:B In order to comply with certain IRS > regulations > regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated > otherwise, > any tax advice contained in this communication (including any > attachments) > is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for > purposes of > (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) > promoting, > marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter > addressed herein. > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 1:55 AM > To: Friends; Triumph > Subject: [Fot] One wire alternator for TR6 > > Mine is shot -- do not know what I bought originally [lost the > reference]. > What is the recommended alternator that will bolt up correctly and > uses only > one wire to the battery?B Mine has the lead on the top.B I will use > the > pully I have now as it is not stock size. > > thanks, > Chuck > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dforeman@fooddude.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 5 13:38:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3327842C81 for ; 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Wed, 02 Oct 2013 19:59:35 PDT TWlrZToKV2l0aCBhbGwgZHVlIHJlc3BlY3QsIHRoZSBieXBhc3MgdmFsdmUgbm90IHNlYXRpbmcgY29ycmVjdGx5IHdvdWxkIG5vdCBhY2NvdW50IGZvciB0aGUgbm9ybWFsLCBoaWdoIHByZXNzdXJlIHdoZW4gY29sZCwgYW5kIHRoZSBsb3csIG5vIHByZXNzdXJlIHdoZW4gY29sZC4gSWYgaXQgZGlkbid0IHNlYXQgcHJvcGVybHkgaXQgd291bGQgYWx3YXlzIGJ5cGFzcyB0aGUgb2lsLgotRWQtCiAKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCiBGcm9tOiBNaWtlIE11bnNvbiA8ZmFzdHRyc0ABMAEBAQE- References: <3FD5D08E-0671-412A-9BA7-B990CD939C39@att.net> <34C73AAE-4E86-4153-BB16-4BAB9D7D7696@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 19:59:35 -0700 (PDT) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: Mike Munson , Andy Packard Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" , Joseph , "<6pack@autox.team.net>" <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR250 oil pressure update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mike: With all due respect, the bypass valve not seating correctly would not account for the normal, high pressure when cold, and the low, no pressure when cold. If it didn't seat properly it would always bypass the oil. -Ed- ________________________________ From: Mike Munson To: Andy Packard Cc: "<6pack@autox.team.net>" <6pack@autox.team.net>; Joseph ; "fot@autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR250 oil pressure update I had the same temperature issues in the early years of my current TR6 race car. It turned out to be the head gasket leaking into the water jacket during the combustion explosion phase when cylinder pressures are greatest. The head gaskets were strong enough to hold for the lower pressures of a compression test but wouldn't hold when the engine was running. Once I changed over to Payen head gaskets the problem went away. Make sure you are using the early model head gasket without the extra thick compression rings. As far as the oil pressure issue, another thing to try is get a collection of bypass pistons from different vendors and test them with the same spring. It doesn't matter how heavy your spring is if the piston won't seal. I have found as much as a 30 # pressure difference by switching pistons. Mike Munson #28 EP TR6 > On Oct 2, 2013, at 2:02 AM, Andy Packard wrote: > > Leak down test at 90psi. All cylinders were at 82-84psi. Wish we could find > definite data pointing us to the problem, although several if you have said > head gasket based on the temp differences. > > Andy Packard _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 5 17:53:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11BB140551 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2013 17:53:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm23-vm10.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm23-vm10.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272504053A for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2013 16:29:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.158] by nm23.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Oct 2013 03:13:02 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.152] by tm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Oct 2013 03:13:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1028.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Oct 2013 03:13:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 61668 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Oct 2013 03:13:01 -0000 s=s1024; t=1380942781; bh=neDE31K8OhD5CadiXmPrNfBR71R4UIaSEDOwVPi1T4M=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nZLiYLawjNba102D43j+lz1aWrlzOVOIzU60YQG9oB8pdd4vcFBXR1UWyVNqBTbKGW28WCFEUbqEt6gQdvetD2Vr3eIELDTDw2M2YzVoCCE/qA32SKyzcm8l7vulLvDpdUU42DNOiLy4zj0K9ss7lEU9Dsa8jIgvFkNhHoZ5RnQ= s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4BxCQM7EnAMLKjNSMzQfQ5WZ26dXeNboOchM/DpfnyM1FBBgIxrjHx+EEF6pbCxUjANZi2xgcL+vpqv0M6k69XB0acjE6rHVHeGiEkj6bvXM3TBXbWT2wM5UIPLoaG3PCrk/GgrTU7V1UzxWWh23o3SNMDK2Bf2Kpzf1VsTc3j4=; Z6b13bIYiSkO_srJNmBUA3gQ8Wl5IflEdKwzSmgRi8B6c_nPXeIB8AiO.cdJ FBrNDNmKeWwXicBvovMxizO1M.Ed7UmfqdynrAehDmEDNWT20Eu_va3Tg5pV 2ri37izMri.A0Jr.AXx0d15UvuUIEKbYxZHKkx1xyXH68U9w6h5cBVPqPTuK BZNCBOmElE0iShtCVWs0HRacQTQWLYMfOvWAlRSuGLTX3T1LWMmkGttF5HYs H0KwY9l0RCKgWJAptvvLQ67zNplcCfHzv_bEn8QvirtbeiJ1qWtanECI4wTa vSW7GP5hA0Uf4TrV1iK1IColh9EGkyHxFRWVNwiCR0FIqcnwwrSAhdMcm.V3 6Q_6SbgsKAKIsemrPk8L95qG189SOLtuN_gVd3UjK.J.dHdAgBMclr6j36ZK TffPxEgi5e5zXNTg4fvkmeLdHNiRTaVgV5P1Iyf2_1YJZfkef6aEcbr3vEaQ rDI34hi_4.4e5LWCjkVtTrB4sypKXOnOMkF8XP969A008OyjFmNGjfkJVT0h NKM736gt5rr6Lw3pR60O0vP0bF_USATLcl0aaIXOkaUBPg0kYkBPx4VNpx6x fNHD2MkYlnZw7fpv.9TaiTrpNvaA5pOLBwIjjj4Wx6xLkwjTPFXu14QPGELK BdSTXBj9hGsz4wSMTMbHfzQJyGLyOp.ZFZ5DTSXPVXjtUAaV3TFE.EA_jF52 R9C0U1tQ7WGY- Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web181401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 20:13:01 PDT R3JvdXA6IEVhcmxpZXIgdGhpcyB5ZWFyIEkgYm91Z2h0IGEgbmV3ICh0byBtZSkgY2FyIHRyYWlsZXIgYW5kIGhhZCB0byB0YWtlIHRoZSBUUjI1MCB0aGF0IHdhcyBvbiBpdC4gSSBoYXZlIGJlZW4gc2VsbGluZyBvZmYgdGhlIHBhcnRzIG9uIEViYXkuIEluIHRoZSBjb2xsZWN0aW9uIG9mICJzdHVmZiIgd2FzIGEgc2V0IG9mIHJvY2tlcnMgZnJvbSB0aGlzIGNvbXBhbnkuIFRoZXkgY2FuIGJlc3QgYmUgZGVzY3JpYmVkIGFzIHBvb3IgZXhhbXBsZXMuIFRoZSBtZXRhbCBpcyBzbyB0aGluIEkgdGhpbmsgbXkBMAEBAQE- References: <63E1168C-F66F-4780-A5EB-F32D41117244@rogers.com> <524EBEEB.2020406@charter.net> <9C3AA73F-87DE-4BFE-A288-CAD03E7F3459@rogers.com> Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 20:13:01 -0700 (PDT) From: EDWARD BARNARD To: "deweerdm@rogers.com" , Glenn Franco Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Floor pans Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Group: Earlier this year I bought a new (to me) car trailer and had to take the TR250 that was on it. I have been selling off the parts on Ebay. In the collection of "stuff" was a set of rockers from this company. They can best be described as poor examples. The metal is so thin I think my welder would have a hard time to not blow holes in it even on the lowest setting. They sell these for $99, and I felt happy to get $25 for the pair. I am currently putting in a set of BMH floorpans in a customers "6" and these make the others companies product look like scrap metal. JMHO -Ed- ________________________________ From: "deweerdm@rogers.com" To: Glenn Franco Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Floor pans Thanks for the great info Glenn Robert I hope you are talking about getting back on track at RA by welding up the frame in the paddock and not my turn 14 excursion .....which was very cool too.....not sure who at RA I should bill for putting those 2 corn furrows in ...lol Sent from my iPhone On 2013-10-04, at 9:13 AM, Glenn Franco wrote: > I contacted the owner of this company directly last year. They are a local company near Detroit, Mi > The floor pans are soft tooled (Big 3 engineering term for temp tools). > The floor pans are not comparable to the British Motor Heritage floor pans available from the British Parts Suppliers. > If you have the body off, I would not recommend these as they do not have the ~3" downstanding flange that connects to the lower rocker. > There are also no holes or weld nuts for the tunnel. > I would consider this a patch panel to drop in rather than a factory repair part. > FYI > Glenn > > > On 10/4/2013 8:25 AM, Robert M. Lang wrote: >> The URL for this company is: >> >> c2cfabrication.com >> >> I have no direct experience with them (that I know of). >> >> Part of me wonders if they picked up the tooling from one of the body panel fabricators from "back in the day". The names escape me, but I used to have a couple of catalogs back in the 80's from at least a couple of companies that made panels and partial panels for pretty much everything. >> >> In any case, the web site looks promising. >> >> Regards, >> rml >> >> p.s. nice job getting your car BACK ON TRACK at ELVF! That was pretty kool IMHO. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent >> Former NER Solo Chair | >> Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com/ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gaf3@charter.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/deweerdm@rogers.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 6 02:22:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C331F40539 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 02:22:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from georges.telenet-ops.be (georges.telenet-ops.be [195.130.137.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3E540526 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 02:22:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([141.134.4.155]) by georges.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id ZkLG1m02S3LgakV06kLLvj; Sun, 06 Oct 2013 10:20:21 +0200 From: "Van Mulders Marcel" To: "'Mike Moore'" References: <001b01cebf60$f7b8eba0$e72ac2e0$@net> Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 10:20:16 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6+5vpy8oiVAWGuSRGGvWuGx6SWWQAee/BgAMLKSqA= Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] new fot nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mike, Sorry no video from my side : my race week-end was over already after a couple of qualification laps : broken differential pinion and crown wheel. Very sad end of the season as in the ranking I was still 3rd overall and 1st in class. Over the winter I will do everything to be fastest again in the 2014 season. In this season, Christian Marx was too strong for me. Marcel -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Mike Moore [mailto:mmoore@wave1.net] Verzonden: woensdag 2 oktober 2013 13:17 Aan: 'Van Mulders Marcel'; fot@autox.team.net Onderwerp: RE: [Fot] new fot nomination Hope you both have videos of this race for us to watch Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Van Mulders Marcel Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 4:44 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] new fot nomination Thanks to Chris Marx for nominating me and to the FOT members who believe I'm good enough to fit in this community of great people dedicated to the Triumph cars. I came across of most of the Fot names already when visiting websites about vintage racing, Triumph race cars and of course in the books of Kas Kastner. B.t.w. the books of Kas, and also mailing him, have helped me a lot to make my car fast. Of course, from know on I'll post problems and questions to the Fot also and, having some experience meanwhile, I 'm always willing to help people whenever I can. After posting emails for a while, I met Chris Marx for the first time in 2005 at a race track, where else. We were both new in the vintage racing and 'independent'. I startet racing in 2002 when my late wife gave me a road racing course for my 50th birthday and my freshly restored and somewhat tweaked yellow TR3 was the obvious victim to be molested.( Before the TR3, I had consecutively a SpitfireMkIV, a TR7 and a Dolomite1850 as everyday cars and restored a TR6 in 1990-1992, so I thought of no other car than a Triumph to go racing) In 2006 and 2007, I saw Chris at the podium regularly while I was finishing in the mid field, but for the 2008 season, I had a very strong engine and ended 2nd overall in the german TriumphCompetition championship, with the help of Chris who had a lot of mechanical failures. During the 2008-2009 winter, the floppy chassis was strenghtened and also the rest of the suspension was sorted out. In the 2009 season I finished every race 1st of class and had also 2 overall wins, but the TC championship was ordered already by someone else and my car was disqualified. I was very, very disappointed and only survived this blow by winning the championship overall in 2010 and again in 2011. Meanwhile, Chris Marx, racing his red TR4 in the same class as me, had made up his mind to beat one racer sooner or later : me! He succeeded for the 1st time in Assen, The Netherlands, in 2010. In 2012 he was faster on more racetracks than me and he was the overall winner of the TC Championship. In 2013 he is the shining star and has beaten me in every race that both of us did finish, but he is 15 points behind me in the class ranking because of more mechanical failures on his side. With 3 races to go (next week-end at the Nurburgring) I've done everything to my car to win at least one regular race against Chris in the 2013 season. Watch this place. Marcel Van Mulders _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore@wave1.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 6 14:43:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4757240425 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 14:43:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0614040A for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 13:59:31 -0600 (MDT) a=ft3aQrzeuTtyZjRjRVvyHw==:17 a=ufghDHTLyEAA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=asKWeRa45DJSAz4QhggA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=N-nPTFdY_zMA:10 a=HYgEpMMxYfkA:10 a=qQatJANSkYx93XzUKxsA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=wKS0PAlDinUEgLHi:21 a=ft3aQrzeuTtyZjRjRVvyHw==:117 Received: from [65.29.157.118] ([65.29.157.118:36738] helo=[10.0.1.3]) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id FE/55-02323-FB0C1525; Sun, 06 Oct 2013 19:57:52 +0000 From: Allen Washatko To: Friends of Triumph Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 14:57:51 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Battery Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone have experience with XS Power batteries? Allen Allen & Jody Washatko 1971 TR6 - Number 6 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 6 14:44:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DFA4054E for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 14:44:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 210684040A for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 14:01:45 -0600 (MDT) a=ft3aQrzeuTtyZjRjRVvyHw==:17 a=ufghDHTLyEAA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=nsx1VgZT0_YP3ft4UXEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=XmKn7ISy_IQA:10 a=_oRy10dIqzEA:10 a=zz-rl1GW39kfeXsGiRMA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=4CWkT6-0EXqmKA_2:21 a=ft3aQrzeuTtyZjRjRVvyHw==:117 Received: from [65.29.157.118] ([65.29.157.118:46001] helo=[10.0.1.3]) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 01/2F-00106-541C1525; Sun, 06 Oct 2013 20:00:05 +0000 From: Allen Washatko To: Friends of Triumph Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 15:00:04 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Catch Tank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FoT, Looking for a small aluminum oil catch tank with a breather. Does anyone have a suggestion? Tried all the normal sources. Thanks, Allen Allen & Jody Washatko 1971 TR6 - Number 6 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 6 15:37:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31EC4042E for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 15:37:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A164040D for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 15:12:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [67.255.13.17] ([67.255.13.17:62585] helo=Shop) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id EA/9F-01315-2E1D1525; Sun, 06 Oct 2013 21:10:58 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 17:11:58 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7C2LEiGbSCPgz6TA6uJK8sE+w4vA== Content-Language: en-us Cc: VRG_NewsGroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Fot] Triumphs - Watkins Glen/VRG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Folks the weather forecast is outstanding for next weekend and so far there are 13 Triumphs I am aware of going to The Glen, with two more possibles. Not much chance of snow and the Fall foliage is almost maxed so it's pretty colorful. Ninety cars registered and more entries each day as the event gets closer. Forecast is for sun and temps in the upper 60's ALL THREE DAYS! Imagine that! An event at Watkins where you get lots of seat time, can leave the rain tires home and may need sunglasses! And an all -comers race to top off the weekend! Not too late if you're fearing boredom next weekend! See VRGonline for details and registration information. Russ Moore Spitfire #49 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 6 15:52:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1508B40534 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 15:52:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0F7403F0 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 15:49:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02175A1A34 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 15:47:47 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 15:47:47 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:23.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/23.0 SeaMonkey/2.20 To: Friends of Triumph References: <102782.6613bc3f.3f82d3c8@aol.com> Subject: [Fot] Fwd: VSCDA Newsletter is now up and on line... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Been having some Team.Net issues over the last few days, and this is before the switch to the faster network. What fun. I need to talk to the boss about overtime pay. Anyway, Bill Dentinger sent out a message that got caught in the crossfire: Amici... For those interested FOTers who are not regular VSCDA members, you might visit the website (www.vscda.org/ ). Check out the October Newsletter to see John Houlton's nice article on the Kastner Kup event at Road America. Bill Dentinger To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: VSCDA Newsletter is now up and on line... From: billdentin@aol.com Received: from 70.194.129.42 by webmail-m147.sysops.aol.com (149.174.9.30) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 05 Oct 2013 13:13:10 -0400 Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2013 13:13:10 -0400 (EDT) Amici... For those interested FOTers who are not regular VSCDA members, you might visit the website (www.vscda.org/). Check out the October Newsletter to see John Houlton's nice article on the Kastner Kup event at Road America. 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From: Allen Washatko To: Friends of Triumph Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 1:00 PM Subject: [Fot] Catch Tank FoT, Looking for a small aluminum oil catch tank with a breather. Does anyone have a suggestion? Tried all the normal sources. Thanks, Allen Allen & Jody Washatko 1971 TR6 - Number 6 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sherryjimmy6116@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 6 19:42:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F427429D8 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 19:42:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f173.google.com (mail-qc0-f173.google.com [209.85.216.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8E940430 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 19:18:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id c3so4342255qcv.4 for ; Sun, 06 Oct 2013 18:16:45 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=m+PDa3uA5QQyOYeNiyB45h6p3Y2U/mcpRQkY5r2Knf8=; b=HLqO8dME0qdWC5AVti5mQaHw+iJkvyH5BJtdXRPjb4me86Z96is4ME35B6LwLuDn6m y29C8Ejckshba+PnX1JMaIdwLvp9gdH8CPkGw0/VSgFy3XlN+ZJEkE/iID4Dqe3yMZLy qCZr1Aj0bFnzJUi0aJlTqUq4jHSCEA+MQdizgoNuj6NT+8Opl1mgORWirPJCuYiXWjK5 iP87vIbpQOkpGcrcw8/NyRdz+G/KLEYkirPcK+A2fpGd2g1l3OtrQRvfodt0F4FTb1at P5kGn9endCeXdv3vhYbJqJ8elXdc+vsDBqxGje5wfjYtiBlIGMey4j1YjvwyYIZQZ/5O PjOw== o9mr34248503qar.61.1381108605240; Sun, 06 Oct 2013 18:16:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.8.121] (cpe-67-246-45-67.nycap.res.rr.com. [67.246.45.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fx6sm48922761qeb.1.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 06 Oct 2013 18:16:44 -0700 (PDT) References: <1381103688.96571.YahooMailNeo@web184803.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> From: Bob Bownes -Seiri Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 21:16:42 -0400 To: sherry robyn Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Catch Tank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Spun aluminum water bottle with a small air filter (like an oil breather ) stuck on the top works pretty darn well and comes in a variety of designer colours. > On Oct 6, 2013, at 19:54, sherry robyn wrote: > > Richard Good sells one. > > > From: Allen Washatko > To: > Friends of Triumph > Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 1:00 PM > Subject: [Fot] Catch Tank > > > FoT, > > Looking for a small aluminum oil catch tank > with a breather. Does > anyone have a suggestion? Tried all the normal > sources. > > Thanks, > > Allen > > > > Allen & Jody Washatko > 1971 TR6 - Number 6 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sherryjimmy6116@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 6 22:04:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4582942AD7 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 22:04:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s5.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s5.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C4142A99 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 21:20:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT401-EAS349 ([65.55.90.71]) by snt0-omc2-s5.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 6 Oct 2013 20:18:35 -0700 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 20:18:32 -0700 From: horizonracing To: Bob Bownes -Seiri , sherry robyn FILETIME=[E89C5860:01CEC30B] Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Catch Tank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Www.horizonracing.com Custom to anything you want. Polished, seamless, sight tubes, skys the limit..... B :)B Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Bob Bownes -Seiri Date: 10/06/2013 6:40 PM (GMT-08:00) To: sherry robyn Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Catch Tank Spun aluminum water bottle with a small air filter (like an oil breather ) stuck on the top works pretty darn well and comes in a variety of designer colours. > On Oct 6, 2013, at 19:54, sherry robyn wrote: > > Richard Good sells one. > > > From: Allen Washatko > To: > Friends of Triumph > Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 1:00 PM > Subject: [Fot] Catch Tank > > > FoT, > > Looking for a small aluminum oil catch tank > with a breather. Does > anyone have a suggestion? Tried all the normal > sources. > > Thanks, > > Allen > > > > Allen & Jody Washatko > 1971 TR6B - Number 6 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sherryjimmy6116@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 7 08:45:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4407B42A24 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 08:45:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d04.mx.aol.com (omr-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.201]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C9340549 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 08:24:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.70]) by omr-d04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 3913870047C51 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 10:22:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id C11FEE0000B6 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 10:22:45 -0400 (EDT) References: <1381154827.65522.YahooMailNeo@web163906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 09:22:43 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1381155766; bh=KuPVTsMPYSuQHb4jcvE84V9eZYJdEUnPOByDMKnaXoY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=hwkmKc8fPZuVtpvU4+meX9f1BQKiZbgVgDrpBReBn91aD+iwZftWsTC14H8uwH01R Cbx+XrDzR0TJJ98eppZMr8DFMlfR6QTHB8YRlxfOpJHHBtseMHbN92QSOoOAwR+f0v Y9kvAjVMC4FL4Lp55Xkyybwmp3OSBBcazyOPUTQo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29465252c3b57bea Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Cylinder Head Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT, This comes Jack Wheeler. Please jump in and answer his questions. Joe A. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Jack Wheeler > Date: October 7, 2013 at 9:07:07 AM CDT > To: Joe Alexander > Subject: Cylinder Head Questions > Reply-To: Jack Wheeler > > Hi Joe. I'm getting ready to put together the cylinder head (late TR-4/4A) for my TR-3 engine rebuild. I've got new valves and guides, but I'm still looking for a source for competition valve springs and collars. When I was racing, I used Isky springs and collars, but Isky no longer supplies parts for the TR-4 engine. Do you know of a good source for these? I'm thinking Ken Gillanders may be a good source, but I've lost his contact info. Do you have an email address or phone number for Ken? > > Also, I'm looking for the specs for valve spring pressures when assembled, both at full lift and when the valve is closed. I'm planning to use a Kastner 'D' cam, or something close to that (know anyone who has one of these for sale?). Do you know the valve spring pressure specs? Ken may also be a good source for these. Perhaps you could forward my questions along to the FOT list? As usual, thanks for your help. > > Jack _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 7 10:39:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9386442A50 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 10:39:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-ss-988.bluehost.com (outbound-ss-988.bluehost.com [74.220.216.107]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C42640511 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 09:59:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 2005 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2013 15:57:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO just64.justhost.com) (173.254.28.64) by oproxy13.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 7 Oct 2013 15:57:19 -0000 Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=55738 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VTDBP-0003Qy-J6; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 09:57:19 -0600 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 10:57:17 -0500 To: Joe Alexander ,fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews References: <1381154827.65522.YahooMailNeo@web163906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Cylinder Head Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ken Gillanders: http://www.britishframeandengine.com/ bfeken@copper.net For some reason I can't find his phone number on his website. He has competition springs and retainers - I like the titanium retainers personally. I'd only have a guess at the closing seat pressure - somewhere in the 100 to 110 lbs is my guess. Ken would likely know. Tony D At 09:22 AM 10/7/2013, Joe Alexander wrote: >FOT, > >This comes Jack Wheeler. Please jump in and answer his questions. > >Joe A. > >Sent from my iPad > >Begin forwarded message: > > > From: Jack Wheeler > > Date: October 7, 2013 at 9:07:07 AM CDT > > To: Joe Alexander > > Subject: Cylinder Head Questions > > Reply-To: Jack Wheeler > > > > Hi Joe. I'm getting ready to put together the cylinder head (late TR-4/4A) >for my TR-3 engine rebuild. I've got new valves and guides, but I'm still >looking for a source for competition valve springs and collars. When I was >racing, I used Isky springs and collars, but Isky no longer supplies parts for >the TR-4 engine. Do you know of a good source for these? I'm thinking Ken >Gillanders may be a good source, but I've lost his contact info. Do you have >an email address or phone number for Ken? > > > > Also, I'm looking for the specs for valve spring pressures when assembled, >both at full lift and when the valve is closed. I'm planning to use a Kastner >'D' cam, or something close to that (know anyone who has one of these for >sale?). Do you know the valve spring pressure specs? Ken may also be a good >source for these. Perhaps you could forward my questions along to the FOT >list? As usual, thanks for your help. > > > > Jack >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 7 11:36:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F3442AB6 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 11:36:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.56]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E05429EE for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 10:53:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aFhX1m0060FhH24A6Gqx6U; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 16:50:57 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aGqx1m0022yr1eL8UGqxjG; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 16:50:57 +0000 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 16:50:57 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Fot@autox.team.net s=q20121106; t=1381164657; bh=HtEfz7GaWZ2X3XIOPxBut5Pka19lflw2PcJZv3MVxw8=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=nHMSSY/Jtx1EVajD2Cvyzlt6MpV6Jh+OpprfNSLVWkWzgbdC/QJUiwJOl/Qm8Z4mu lDUC75h4u6h/SVCpPSVPG7j8gR65xdRNrcbyZgmqi42leXxRa+/uRDP3Cr/VpVkO6A qc8YHAhouQD9mI5ucrqH25ksqdhclp8sq81wYDdtxqyc7rNUeglBSqlOAQjcGPc27e 45/1Acs2XJk57OFSMmpGr3YyM/uUk/qIY6tHgzijJGalLv7j/12gUtLMa+5TroQgP+ 1oXzq1uUJe71YlUsRFH6pEay/6aBxqKHYl6aN3g2e+5f4Nth5T5mU761n9rzPMVYry F5WyHGNAaVPvA== Subject: [Fot] First race complete Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, I want to share the news of completing my first race weekend in my TR3. The 10th Annual Charity Challenge at Sears Point. It was a perfect weekend for me and the car. Steadily improving throughout the weekend and surprising veteran drivers while doing so. I brought the car home clean and did nothing but drive, check tire pressures and add gas all weekend. I was very fortunate to share paddock space with Tony Garmey and his crewman Ray Quick. They generously provided a canopy spot and other amenities throughout the weekend and certainly added a degree of calm for me with tips and suggestions. Thanks, Tony and Ray. My brother Tom and nephew Tommy stood by with much appreciated assistance as well. I completed 3 practice sessions on Friday, 1 timed practice Saturday morning, 4 charity drives ($75/ passenger) totaling 13 laps during lunch at near race speeds and the qualifying race. On Sunday I ran morning warmup, 1 more charity drive during lunch, Triumph club parade laps and the race. I figured that I drove around 160 miles on track. I made numerous passes during the weekend and was in a close battle with a Healey 3000, MGA and Alfa Giulietta Sprint during the race. I was able to get by the Healey and attempted a couple passes of the Alfa and MG, but in the end settled in behind them. What a blast! Dave _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 7 12:29:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D35E42AA0 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 12:29:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f44.google.com (mail-ee0-f44.google.com [74.125.83.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F87A40324 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 11:41:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f44.google.com with SMTP id b47so3463198eek.3 for ; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 10:39:52 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=luIqxa5GEUd/pfDM4i/8MnGHNWr2PVbS6pNJ6c+Kb+k=; b=AZhZf7mJXyIbSOSMj0V8tFwc/AXtjETyf5qgBSTjuajSAX01Ag7LtD3bCEqtqM0kZW Pt73NU1JSlHUgyopqFRRgLY7FpUhNSBZbZ40VTDBXJa0HHBhWYhzFE/uE7rCyxhGG5H0 W0QRcycwWjrcZz9Ot5q/6F49SKBp1LFKx0KiM4W3sG12aph6n2XT6mMIn2+d7oZxU3PD Cf0DSf7rBc+G22rP0sM/ZT5wnep+TEm8oDzLN2G7+X5WKYJeBtknGaTqRQbfB2ouLFbv wQi3vsICmOCd67+v2fEbq5YS3ljrTy2NIdZ/rznT2ex7udzTcwycTO0i1yRsgSmBV17B i95A== e43mr4670543eem.59.1381167592660; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 10:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([31.213.96.119]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id n48sm65898525eeg.17.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 07 Oct 2013 10:39:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'davehogye'" , References: <167217007.3445040.1381164657011.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 19:39:59 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac7Dg5SBF6WLcD/tTmGv9Q72DxUB5gAAJC3w Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] First race complete Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Congratulations mate for you successful weekend and to have a still running car!!! Whoopie! Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von davehogye Gesendet: Montag, 7. Oktober 2013 18:51 An: Fot@autox.team.net Betreff: [Fot] First race complete Hello Friends, I want to share the news of completing my first race weekend in my TR3. The 10th Annual Charity Challenge at Sears Point. It was a perfect weekend for me and the car. Steadily improving throughout the weekend and surprising veteran drivers while doing so. I brought the car home clean and did nothing but drive, check tire pressures and add gas all weekend. I was very fortunate to share paddock space with Tony Garmey and his crewman Ray Quick. They generously provided a canopy spot and other amenities throughout the weekend and certainly added a degree of calm for me with tips and suggestions. Thanks, Tony and Ray. My brother Tom and nephew Tommy stood by with much appreciated assistance as well. I completed 3 practice sessions on Friday, 1 timed practice Saturday morning, 4 charity drives ($75/ passenger) totaling 13 laps during lunch at near race speeds and the qualifying race. On Sunday I ran morning warmup, 1 more charity drive during lunch, Triumph club parade laps and the race. I figured that I drove around 160 miles on track. I made numerous passes during the weekend and was in a close battle with a Healey 3000, MGA and Alfa Giulietta Sprint during the race. I was able to get by the Healey and attempted a couple passes of the Alfa and MG, but in the end settled in behind them. What a blast! Dave _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 7 12:40:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2458542ADF for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 12:40:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail176c2.megamailservers.com (mail176c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381E4429EE for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 12:18:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail176c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r97IGvqq016016; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:17:02 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: "'Tony Drews'" , "'Joe Alexander'" , References: <1381154827.65522.YahooMailNeo@web163906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20131007163910.88EB242A29@autox.team.net> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:16:54 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7De4y+cxEpv9T6QhaenFlXEzNyAQADdBTQ a=9_ESi54wFUoA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=nzB1TLr7AAAA:8 a=jLhXIAiSAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=M2lCKuRi00hOdDyMTk0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=m9CVWHGJaGcA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=HG-Shij19uMA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=dP9a7p_FNUQA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 a=Pk_6V4mkRxUYUcAc:21 a=XO4PRPs9fV4rgVMw:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Cylinder Head Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net 626 443 0939 John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tony Drews Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 11:57 AM To: Joe Alexander; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Cylinder Head Questions Ken Gillanders: http://www.britishframeandengine.com/ bfeken@copper.net For some reason I can't find his phone number on his website. He has competition springs and retainers - I like the titanium retainers personally. I'd only have a guess at the closing seat pressure - somewhere in the 100 to 110 lbs is my guess. Ken would likely know. Tony D At 09:22 AM 10/7/2013, Joe Alexander wrote: >FOT, > >This comes Jack Wheeler. Please jump in and answer his questions. > >Joe A. > >Sent from my iPad > >Begin forwarded message: > > > From: Jack Wheeler > > Date: October 7, 2013 at 9:07:07 AM CDT > > To: Joe Alexander > > Subject: Cylinder Head Questions > > Reply-To: Jack Wheeler > > > > Hi Joe. I'm getting ready to put together the cylinder head (late > > TR-4/4A) >for my TR-3 engine rebuild. I've got new valves and guides, but I'm >still looking for a source for competition valve springs and collars. >When I was racing, I used Isky springs and collars, but Isky no longer >supplies parts for the TR-4 engine. Do you know of a good source for >these? I'm thinking Ken Gillanders may be a good source, but I've lost >his contact info. Do you have an email address or phone number for Ken? > > > > Also, I'm looking for the specs for valve spring pressures when > > assembled, >both at full lift and when the valve is closed. I'm planning to use a >Kastner 'D' cam, or something close to that (know anyone who has one of >these for sale?). Do you know the valve spring pressure specs? Ken >may also be a good source for these. Perhaps you could forward my >questions along to the FOT list? As usual, thanks for your help. > > > > Jack >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 7 12:42:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DD242B05 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 12:42:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d04.mx.aol.com (omr-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.201]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A2142ABB for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 12:30:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.131]) by omr-d04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 282EF70047C60; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:29:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (adsl-71-159-229-172.dsl.sndg02.sbcglobal.net [71.159.229.172]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id B2DBBE0000D5; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:29:12 -0400 (EDT) References: <167217007.3445040.1381164657011.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> From: Chuck Gee Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 11:29:10 -0700 To: davehogye x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1381170553; bh=ojME0CsvvOy0my/qWCrY3YxOhubUSnA+WughFiOEwNk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=RT2FGZTijtdOlxp3vOAcHSaUg888Y/h+hJ05qMYAKtRTOh4IoCj9lDdxN/30jMRRn pxEfgHnkrZPu0mGx4md3XOseKWa+wsU5C9LwdrmX/Yw4+moxq8U2xoD1ng49c/J6fi w5fZ4pJ0W634Y9tTpDaM5ZBJ4HkhHgECh0MTB2GE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33835252fd78072e Cc: "Fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] First race complete Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Nicely done Dave. Looking forward to seeing you at tracks on the west coast! Chuck > On Oct 7, 2013, at 9:50 AM, davehogye wrote: > > Hello Friends, > I want to share the news of completing my first race weekend in my TR3. The 10th Annual Charity Challenge at Sears Point. It was a perfect weekend for me and the car. Steadily improving throughout the weekend and surprising veteran drivers while doing so. > I brought the car home clean and did nothing but drive, check tire pressures and add gas all weekend. > I was very fortunate to share paddock space with Tony Garmey and his crewman Ray Quick. They generously provided a canopy spot and other amenities throughout the weekend and certainly added a degree of calm for me with tips and suggestions. Thanks, Tony and Ray. My brother Tom and nephew Tommy stood by with much appreciated assistance as well. > I completed 3 practice sessions on Friday, 1 timed practice Saturday morning, 4 charity drives ($75/ passenger) totaling 13 laps during lunch at near race speeds and the qualifying race. On Sunday I ran morning warmup, 1 more charity drive during lunch, Triumph club parade laps and the race. I figured that I drove around 160 miles on track. > I made numerous passes during the weekend and was in a close battle with a Healey 3000, MGA and Alfa Giulietta Sprint during the race. I was able to get by the Healey and attempted a couple passes of the Alfa and MG, but in the end settled in behind them. > What a blast! > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 7 14:43:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35A842856 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:43:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm25-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm25-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.118]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC7940396 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:12:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.54] by nm25.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Oct 2013 20:11:08 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.115] by tm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Oct 2013 20:11:08 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp224.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Oct 2013 20:11:08 -0000 s=s1024; t=1381176668; bh=Qey7m/Sv19eUf6xJYltb6EdfNU3Nx6pTV1qjwuoPaNY=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=vJw1Po3Qkc3x5FlLMYcaGjSqAAqIoWDImEn2buwGFlHml9Iyw1ZtNpsQK0jXGXeW/Us05zgF3MV8GJkK+FYQnoh2WP4z9SnGSO5lyvJEbAFM7imZaZgcG/QMhIGvba9PMTeBTr27dvBL4sOabudKbIJRWG6VM/SQ8iYwhkvmius= A5jb2pB.cWTQB2kwXtQn8AL6HTe9pDzz3s4Ft_YNv0.rQVxjCXunBg66.Kmn NYkJlwuCWIDpbUzBkYaekPrKByv3ovfPAe8fLPWSa7IhAhFc34_J.a_mUAtJ AVxZV5R8CKiCAFXc6OiqMlF37Mj3dR2VHtQJ92XbvUiLayrAPnEtASVp1tIy zuXdZ3jkP3fLtEw897U9QV2368iTjiiLdtmO3De134Lxp9uN8yN6YQWByogP Mhsc8mWNtUkJ8sFqJpVvySXEVS85Sc4DE.qV.gnp8LX9IzQUZ6Rr_3OBf.VM 5u7.woV3fJS6_aIzl8zS2xPDKVmlSRgip9k76JeoW9jXnM45Ksztn.7j3TXV JQuyoZ9aLp8DA42urONGzHb1M35R_x2zg_F8FZlnQJgN3rvejQJ_QMJSo0Zn 1CCiFR07qYitTi3UeXoX.d5PirkhAbdDHAt2yMiiz8YcA3UM.6YFOM7VwSt5 hVLnyQ.W_cW45s2mUgfFGxbux5nP99N2w.8QnZ1ajrGUsA61rkIln3.LhKQ_ glrO08HueUPmp7skGVaiD_M_KHu96W82TdsaIiB6CukIWEboFET0hbm6k3Wx JXA1XxcPT ) by smtp224.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 07 Oct 2013 20:11:08 +0000 UTC References: <167217007.3445040.1381164657011.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <28593CF8-42A1-437D-8140-25D2040FEBFF@aol.com> From: Andy Packard Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 13:11:04 -0700 To: Chuck Gee Cc: "Fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] First race complete Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Great to hear, Dave! I hope those couple autocross laps helped on Thursday. The car looks great. Andy Packard Sent from my iPhone On Oct 7, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Chuck Gee wrote: > Nicely done Dave. Looking forward to seeing you at tracks on the west coast! > > Chuck > >> On Oct 7, 2013, at 9:50 AM, davehogye wrote: >> >> Hello Friends, >> I want to share the news of completing my first race weekend in my TR3. The > 10th Annual Charity Challenge at Sears Point. It was a perfect weekend for me > and the car. Steadily improving throughout the weekend and surprising veteran > drivers while doing so. >> I brought the car home clean and did nothing but drive, check tire pressures > and add gas all weekend. >> I was very fortunate to share paddock space with Tony Garmey and his crewman > Ray Quick. They generously provided a canopy spot and other amenities > throughout the weekend and certainly added a degree of calm for me with tips > and suggestions. Thanks, Tony and Ray. My brother Tom and nephew Tommy stood > by with much appreciated assistance as well. >> I completed 3 practice sessions on Friday, 1 timed practice Saturday > morning, 4 charity drives ($75/ passenger) totaling 13 laps during lunch at > near race speeds and the qualifying race. On Sunday I ran morning warmup, 1 > more charity drive during lunch, Triumph club parade laps and the race. I > figured that I drove around 160 miles on track. >> I made numerous passes during the weekend and was in a close battle with a > Healey 3000, MGA and Alfa Giulietta Sprint during the race. I was able to get > by the Healey and attempted a couple passes of the Alfa and MG, but in the end > settled in behind them. >> What a blast! >> >> Dave >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/apackard68@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 7 18:35:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88ED4044E for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 18:35:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta41.charter.net (mta41.charter.net [216.33.127.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE1142B21 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 17:57:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20131007235535.MHUV10143.mta41.charter.net@imp09>; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 19:55:35 -0400 Received: from wt03 ([209.225.8.43]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id aPvb1m00R0vicD505PvbYB; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 19:55:35 -0400 a=9okyDgZqp55Pkq91s0rumA==:17 a=GcBDC4MYXWAA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=9_ESi54wFUoA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=gDk7h7PhGjIA:10 a=nzB1TLr7AAAA:8 a=jLhXIAiSAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=zjQpAr8vR77ggZLE0s8A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m9CVWHGJaGcA:10 a=HG-Shij19uMA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=dP9a7p_FNUQA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=fnR5vkp7vP-4ZYk8:21 a=dEee70t-JbLNKgFb:21 a=9okyDgZqp55Pkq91s0rumA==:117 Received: from [71.10.64.126] by enhanced.charter.net with HTTP; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 19:55:35 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 19:55:35 -0400 (EDT) From: jkhagen@charter.net To: Tony Drews User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Cylinder Head Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ken G. phone: 626-443-0939 On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > Ken Gillanders: > http://www.britishframeandengine.com/ > bfeken@copper.net > > For some reason I can't find his phone number on his website. > > He has competition springs and retainers - I like the titanium > retainers personally. > > I'd only have a guess at the closing seat pressure - somewhere in the > 100 to 110 lbs is my guess. Ken would likely know. > > Tony D > > At 09:22 AM 10/7/2013, Joe Alexander wrote: >> FOT, >> >> This comes Jack Wheeler. Please jump in and answer his questions. >> >> Joe A. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Jack Wheeler >>> Date: October 7, 2013 at 9:07:07 AM CDT >>> To: Joe Alexander >>> Subject: Cylinder Head Questions >>> Reply-To: Jack Wheeler >>> >>> Hi Joe. I'm getting ready to put together the cylinder head (late >>> TR-4/4A) >> for my TR-3 engine rebuild. I've got new valves and guides, but I'm >> still >> looking for a source for competition valve springs and collars. When >> I was >> racing, I used Isky springs and collars, but Isky no longer supplies >> parts for >> the TR-4 engine. Do you know of a good source for these? I'm >> thinking Ken >> Gillanders may be a good source, but I've lost his contact info. Do >> you have >> an email address or phone number for Ken? >>> >>> Also, I'm looking for the specs for valve spring pressures when >>> assembled, >> both at full lift and when the valve is closed. I'm planning to use >> a Kastner >> 'D' cam, or something close to that (know anyone who has one of these >> for >> sale?). Do you know the valve spring pressure specs? Ken may also >> be a good >> source for these. Perhaps you could forward my questions along to >> the FOT >> list? As usual, thanks for your help. >>> >>> Jack >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 7 20:11:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF8540430 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 20:11:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s13.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s13.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.88]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3E5403FB for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 20:04:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W96 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s13.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 7 Oct 2013 19:02:43 -0700 From: marty sukey To: FOT Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 22:02:42 -0400 FILETIME=[79B9E880:01CEC3CA] Subject: [Fot] Kentucky race track Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Anybody ever hear of what happened with that new track they were building in Kentucky a few years ago? Bluegrass or something like that. Seem to recall it was almost finished about 4 years ago and that was the last I heard. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 8 02:57:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF9C4041E for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 02:57:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from juliette.telenet-ops.be (juliette.telenet-ops.be [195.130.137.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA63D403E8 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 02:29:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([141.134.4.155]) by juliette.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id aYTk1m0153LgakV06YToig; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 10:27:48 +0200 From: "Van Mulders Marcel" To: Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:27:44 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac7EAEK2LeeiMM2/Su+1IYtmJ1gNiA== Subject: [Fot] to dave hogye : first race completed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Great to see that another TR3 is being raced and that you did have such a nice experience on the racetrack. The TR3 is a nice little race car, the narrow track is more or less compensated by the lower minimum weight that is allowed bij most sanctioning bodies, so it is possible to take on the more plentiful TR4 race cars. Having 10 years race experience with my TR3, I'm always prepared to give advice if you have questions. On the suspension side, it is important that, when lifting the rear wheels off the ground(about 1") with a jack under the differential casing, exactly in the middle between the wheels, that the chassis pick-up points for the lower suspension A arms of the front wheels, have the same distance to the ground left and right, and at the same time that the distance between the rear wheels to the ground is also the same left and right. Marcel Van Mulders _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 8 06:13:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA5840441 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 06:13:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2601403F9 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 05:36:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.17.140]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MUC001HBLHI0C40@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for Fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 06:34:31 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "davehogye" , References: <167217007.3445040.1381164657011.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 07:34:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] First race complete Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Dave, congratulations!!!!!!!! Great feeling, isn't it. Glad you had fun; keep having fun, that's the most important thing. The other important thing is to do all the wrenching you can at home before the race, then just drive the car and mingle (BS) with the other guys at the race! More fun than working on the car all weekend. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "davehogye" To: Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 12:50 PM Subject: [Fot] First race complete > Hello Friends, > I want to share the news of completing my first race weekend in my TR3. > The 10th Annual Charity Challenge at Sears Point. It was a perfect > weekend for me and the car. Steadily improving throughout the weekend and > surprising veteran drivers while doing so. > I brought the car home clean and did nothing but drive, check tire > pressures and add gas all weekend. > I was very fortunate to share paddock space with Tony Garmey and his > crewman Ray Quick. They generously provided a canopy spot and other > amenities throughout the weekend and certainly added a degree of calm for > me with tips and suggestions. Thanks, Tony and Ray. My brother Tom and > nephew Tommy stood by with much appreciated assistance as well. > I completed 3 practice sessions on Friday, 1 timed practice Saturday > morning, 4 charity drives ($75/ passenger) totaling 13 laps during lunch > at near race speeds and the qualifying race. On Sunday I ran morning > warmup, 1 more charity drive during lunch, Triumph club parade laps and > the race. I figured that I drove around 160 miles on track. > I made numerous passes during the weekend and was in a close battle with a > Healey 3000, MGA and Alfa Giulietta Sprint during the race. I was able to > get by the Healey and attempted a couple passes of the Alfa and MG, but in > the end settled in behind them. > What a blast! > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 8 09:13:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EDB840435 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 09:13:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4A1403EE for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 08:51:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.71]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id adrm1m0041Y3wxoA2epQ9z; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 14:49:24 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aenQ1m00E2yr1eL8benQMe; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 14:47:24 +0000 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 14:47:23 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Bill Tobin s=q20121106; t=1381243764; bh=eGKYgz16Bm81tALh5WyUl3QB+CXVUgBDzXLnxbsFd98=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=tfFPowHzBEyqnNykvRPqdIkPiPGXs9fZ287J0V4lMUyEdvVmYZCzQI3WySTYrfkrw Vh5ZemiF75KG0mvjB1/WcsVz5N1R/cA/o1AjMTm0K3aQkdYdz/HpoYhDuhPYQSUGV3 bFVjelMfDRqPvl+s48+DhGZBPVI0AvPrjfVMUPK1JHw6ej07hMEezS4OvhiziKJ4lk sQC/45dFRO3nBsaCryq5v9QtmEilnAPpqc2SpCVtVvg+LJYINgiKuf4vMK31TH2RpJ b0aYLaJ7ZidBVA/PR3Adt2wRyai6XJVngS6KAamdRK8on+xAp1s/I47rAl1wFxSw3J ZSzt7hnWG5WVA== Cc: Fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] First race complete Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for all the nice congratulation guys. I am still grinning. My best timed practice was 2:16.8, 15th, qualifying time was 2:12.5 about 16th of 33. Race time was 2:10.7 15th overall of 32. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Tobin" To: "davehogye" , Fot@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 4:34:29 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] First race complete Dave, congratulations!!!!!!!! Great feeling, isn't it. Glad you had fun; keep having fun, that's the most important thing. The other important thing is to do all the wrenching you can at home before the race, then just drive the car and mingle (BS) with the other guys at the race! More fun than working on the car all weekend. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "davehogye" To: Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 12:50 PM Subject: [Fot] First race complete > Hello Friends, > I want to share the news of completing my first race weekend in my TR3. > The 10th Annual Charity Challenge at Sears Point. It was a perfect > weekend for me and the car. Steadily improving throughout the weekend and > surprising veteran drivers while doing so. > I brought the car home clean and did nothing but drive, check tire > pressures and add gas all weekend. > I was very fortunate to share paddock space with Tony Garmey and his > crewman Ray Quick. They generously provided a canopy spot and other > amenities throughout the weekend and certainly added a degree of calm for > me with tips and suggestions. Thanks, Tony and Ray. My brother Tom and > nephew Tommy stood by with much appreciated assistance as well. > I completed 3 practice sessions on Friday, 1 timed practice Saturday > morning, 4 charity drives ($75/ passenger) totaling 13 laps during lunch > at near race speeds and the qualifying race. On Sunday I ran morning > warmup, 1 more charity drive during lunch, Triumph club parade laps and > the race. I figured that I drove around 160 miles on track. > I made numerous passes during the weekend and was in a close battle with a > Healey 3000, MGA and Alfa Giulietta Sprint during the race. I was able to > get by the Healey and attempted a couple passes of the Alfa and MG, but in > the end settled in behind them. > What a blast! > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 8 10:01:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C444F40434 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:01:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61AB7403E7 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 09:32:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id abkc1m0031HzFnQ5EfWWLf; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:30:30 +0000 Received: from CraigHP ([76.100.209.245]) by omta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id afWW1m0045JDEd03afWWcC; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:30:30 +0000 From: "Craig Wensley" To: "'davehogye'" , "'Bill Tobin'" References: <742F1F88F9C44F33B8B1A64509A33246@hpd530> <518424826.3464900.1381243643117.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 11:30:32 -0400 Thread-Index: AQJkkcQYoePVSDbKY2PNe/B1OTxa6Zi/Uv0w Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1381246230; bh=UYDcNnbO2fYp3Z+yQAif/b1sI0j/aMQBHwJ6Myqy7G8=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=M+ZEJR5BOf6xPY+li7/25b5zzjsTTLMIDqE1hOSQE73Yqqs2o9U/atsKElAZ//vAo DrUbpAFv7Js3Ob/G9/7Lh+Jf295IXSqWpZe2iBxQXDYnczQuhq8L0vyIcZdvlBPn/X wnqulZQuFyitrOwp08bKDWng+zqTtyUP3/CZYZSrrW4rWNSrGvbCrRdgDu8dZLEwY+ dzqWnCVZDxNL0rvtVCBYsfdq/zLMnUphRtlfAhA/VbDA1QWWzrHDGFPl2H4pKdKqt4 m+ZAuO7j6EhrcfeXWha41QttRXeVD3VUb+sB3VdJ0xKewtAPI5drV6qZx4LPi/KBJc vMwfhMeAMV/Uw== Cc: Fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] First race complete Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net So.You're not sitting in pits watching someone ells having fun Don't worrier about the time that will come with time Craig -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of davehogye Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:47 AM To: Bill Tobin Cc: Fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] First race complete Thanks for all the nice congratulation guys. I am still grinning. My best timed practice was 2:16.8, 15th, qualifying time was 2:12.5 about 16th of 33. Race time was 2:10.7 15th overall of 32. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Tobin" To: "davehogye" , Fot@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 4:34:29 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] First race complete Dave, congratulations!!!!!!!! Great feeling, isn't it. Glad you had fun; keep having fun, that's the most important thing. The other important thing is to do all the wrenching you can at home before the race, then just drive the car and mingle (BS) with the other guys at the race! More fun than working on the car all weekend. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "davehogye" To: Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 12:50 PM Subject: [Fot] First race complete > Hello Friends, > I want to share the news of completing my first race weekend in my TR3. > The 10th Annual Charity Challenge at Sears Point. It was a perfect > weekend for me and the car. Steadily improving throughout the weekend > and surprising veteran drivers while doing so. > I brought the car home clean and did nothing but drive, check tire > pressures and add gas all weekend. > I was very fortunate to share paddock space with Tony Garmey and his > crewman Ray Quick. They generously provided a canopy spot and other > amenities throughout the weekend and certainly added a degree of calm > for me with tips and suggestions. Thanks, Tony and Ray. My brother Tom > and nephew Tommy stood by with much appreciated assistance as well. > I completed 3 practice sessions on Friday, 1 timed practice Saturday > morning, 4 charity drives ($75/ passenger) totaling 13 laps during > lunch at near race speeds and the qualifying race. On Sunday I ran > morning warmup, 1 more charity drive during lunch, Triumph club parade > laps and the race. I figured that I drove around 160 miles on track. > I made numerous passes during the weekend and was in a close battle > with a Healey 3000, MGA and Alfa Giulietta Sprint during the race. I > was able to get by the Healey and attempted a couple passes of the > Alfa and MG, but in the end settled in behind them. > What a blast! > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/wensley_tr@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 8 10:09:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E70340325 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:09:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0767B40522 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:09:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.17.140]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MUC005XVY4GDR60@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for Fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 11:07:30 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Craig Wensley" , "'davehogye'" References: <742F1F88F9C44F33B8B1A64509A33246@hpd530> <518424826.3464900.1381243643117.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <000a01cec43b$5414b1c0$fc3e1540$@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 12:07:30 -0400 Cc: Fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] First race complete Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I think L Paul Dickinson's book says, "Don't practice speed, speed comes with practice" Good advice. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Wensley" To: "'davehogye'" ; "'Bill Tobin'" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:30 AM Subject: RE: [Fot] First race complete > So.You're not sitting in pits watching someone ells having fun > Don't worrier about the time that will come with time > Craig > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of davehogye > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:47 AM > To: Bill Tobin > Cc: Fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] First race complete > > Thanks for all the nice congratulation guys. I am still grinning. > My best timed practice was 2:16.8, 15th, qualifying time was 2:12.5 about > 16th of 33. Race time was 2:10.7 15th overall of 32. > > > Dave > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Tobin" > To: "davehogye" , Fot@autox.team.net > Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 4:34:29 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] First race complete > > Dave, congratulations!!!!!!!! > Great feeling, isn't it. Glad you had fun; keep having fun, that's the > most > important thing. > The other important thing is to do all the wrenching you can at home > before > the race, then just drive the car and mingle (BS) with the other guys at > the > race! More fun than working on the car all weekend. > Cheers, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "davehogye" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 12:50 PM > Subject: [Fot] First race complete > > >> Hello Friends, >> I want to share the news of completing my first race weekend in my TR3. >> The 10th Annual Charity Challenge at Sears Point. It was a perfect >> weekend for me and the car. Steadily improving throughout the weekend >> and surprising veteran drivers while doing so. >> I brought the car home clean and did nothing but drive, check tire >> pressures and add gas all weekend. >> I was very fortunate to share paddock space with Tony Garmey and his >> crewman Ray Quick. They generously provided a canopy spot and other >> amenities throughout the weekend and certainly added a degree of calm >> for me with tips and suggestions. Thanks, Tony and Ray. My brother Tom >> and nephew Tommy stood by with much appreciated assistance as well. >> I completed 3 practice sessions on Friday, 1 timed practice Saturday >> morning, 4 charity drives ($75/ passenger) totaling 13 laps during >> lunch at near race speeds and the qualifying race. On Sunday I ran >> morning warmup, 1 more charity drive during lunch, Triumph club parade >> laps and the race. I figured that I drove around 160 miles on track. >> I made numerous passes during the weekend and was in a close battle >> with a Healey 3000, MGA and Alfa Giulietta Sprint during the race. I >> was able to get by the Healey and attempted a couple passes of the >> Alfa and MG, but in the end settled in behind them. >> What a blast! >> >> Dave >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/wensley_tr@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 8 10:30:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CAC840430 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:30:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d07.mx.aol.com (omr-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A312F403EE for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:24:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.8]) by omr-d07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 466B37013E318; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 12:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dne002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dne002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.160.69]) by mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 82E97E00008D; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 12:22:44 -0400 (EDT) References: <742F1F88F9C44F33B8B1A64509A33246@hpd530> <518424826.3464900.1381243643117.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <000a01cec43b$5414b1c0$fc3e1540$@comcast.net> <2E9ADBAFFFF24F258AA37AEF89B1186C@hpd530> To: william.tobin31@verizon.net, wensley_tr@comcast.net, dlhogye@comcast.net Received: from 24.120.231.10 by webmail-m211.sysops.aol.com (64.12.75.228) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 08 Oct 2013 12:22:44 -0400 From: gt6steve@aol.com Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 12:22:44 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1381249365; bh=ODfRywUsdqVdTGchnzCFTip/IeiWif0lJ5VALUpWrxI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IiHMnbM+X91HozKJ76IHnm0qpfiq7cZc0bvXmVULJEIi4E9m6QYsRI+MvkinED/bt yDuOR6ZAK+1aXmvtXMnJWrai9pJKuQ4qGAxO9az/GVqblVIQR07F4cfyi0OxW/XBWF mlqHryy55fKltv9L6Jz+CMEsRabmYeVxnTfXlv8c= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29085254315427dd Cc: Fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] First race complete Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A longtime friend of mine races a Datsun 1200?? and takes a lot of stick for how slow it is. His response, "faster than a set of bleachers....." -----Original Message----- From: Bill Tobin To: Craig Wensley ; 'davehogye' Cc: Fot Sent: Tue, Oct 8, 2013 9:08 am Subject: Re: [Fot] First race complete I think L Paul Dickinson's book says, "Don't practice speed, speed comes ith practice" ood advice. ill ---- Original Message ----- rom: "Craig Wensley" o: "'davehogye'" ; "'Bill Tobin'" william.tobin31@verizon.net> c: ent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:30 AM ubject: RE: [Fot] First race complete So.You're not sitting in pits watching someone ells having fun Don't worrier about the time that will come with time Craig -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of davehogye Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:47 AM To: Bill Tobin Cc: Fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] First race complete Thanks for all the nice congratulation guys. I am still grinning. My best timed practice was 2:16.8, 15th, qualifying time was 2:12.5 about 16th of 33. Race time was 2:10.7 15th overall of 32. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Tobin" To: "davehogye" , Fot@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 4:34:29 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] First race complete Dave, congratulations!!!!!!!! Great feeling, isn't it. Glad you had fun; keep having fun, that's the most important thing. The other important thing is to do all the wrenching you can at home before the race, then just drive the car and mingle (BS) with the other guys at the race! More fun than working on the car all weekend. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "davehogye" To: Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 12:50 PM Subject: [Fot] First race complete > Hello Friends, > I want to share the news of completing my first race weekend in my TR3. > The 10th Annual Charity Challenge at Sears Point. It was a perfect > weekend for me and the car. Steadily improving throughout the weekend > and surprising veteran drivers while doing so. > I brought the car home clean and did nothing but drive, check tire > pressures and add gas all weekend. > I was very fortunate to share paddock space with Tony Garmey and his > crewman Ray Quick. They generously provided a canopy spot and other > amenities throughout the weekend and certainly added a degree of calm > for me with tips and suggestions. Thanks, Tony and Ray. My brother Tom > and nephew Tommy stood by with much appreciated assistance as well. > I completed 3 practice sessions on Friday, 1 timed practice Saturday > morning, 4 charity drives ($75/ passenger) totaling 13 laps during > lunch at near race speeds and the qualifying race. On Sunday I ran > morning warmup, 1 more charity drive during lunch, Triumph club parade > laps and the race. I figured that I drove around 160 miles on track. > I made numerous passes during the weekend and was in a close battle > with a Healey 3000, MGA and Alfa Giulietta Sprint during the race. I > was able to get by the Healey and attempted a couple passes of the > Alfa and MG, but in the end settled in behind them. > What a blast! > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/wensley_tr@comcast.net ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 8 11:57:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB83240430 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 11:57:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm25-vm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm25-vm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.217.113]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F33403EE for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 11:14:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.137.12.61] by nm25.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2013 17:13:06 -0000 Received: from [98.136.164.78] by tm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2013 17:13:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp240.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2013 17:13:06 -0000 s=s1024; t=1381252386; bh=mNl7Ls0G+sWmNLOj36GsISKWNxGs1Fm8TO0yVmdCLyg=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=TV3d6xFyCmL7yJYlXZOukURR4S91zQ5SnCF4FBCoeij84FVi9YEmrvSjo+hXVejNMqfSvqi4/63NxA4z1aGoLHNAIyRqgcSJysNuMSXudVjWsCccZfu2C3soRFHtRUmtzpNq9/BscnlbaeN0BZia+VscQQyNthHSWC0u8C64hjE= xBK0aYbbSQKnPWb.Eifq3j0PCxUA4wIzOAzSTY0_kpcZszibQ4q1g6.rtUFN NiVk94lb.s7WmoO85nUiiwBbgwfjUznx9W8Wgd0oh4ZfoBzf11p0zJ22i_cK Lx4ZgE1PZ42Cv3uBvtxCyGaIhAC.LU9AB9Pw0gwDGN.pjQZrLBCq0P901rb8 _0YLmWB9c4qkW6wjPDXQycAUM1scn0x44fyzGShaXyNsZHkxggSMW7bChW1D 0lmx_ikA2iXZl3qprIQM68S6cB9QvsH_NKL97uzDKnLP1.YxU.p_504g8MOX jUtp2PepILw9EVbNgiMUKgMeyzlzBw.5xj.vHWhBfr9LgBfn_oQv40m.Zqh0 hKj8m8pGnxd.Bm5NfrFNXZeKg_NtbFXj1uj_6FeqlpexnJWJeHYCLM2Wkdnu 93mEmRmxCEJYQrpUM.uHA7bSZ7LpkmL_UGB.9TnpqLiNhgNhx2WynDwTx5NW X.4sR4iQGgvHst0uHkqAwcGPWhTRDIL5yheglkVijEGS7e3.SeJ_Itcufpqn w.9hviQnBT.GZsc8bqhfMDERe9oV.YBIHbj_9l3Tua8CbvNUk5m0yUJ9bNQW eyBnkfyl2YhScWAwJts2NrHZTDnuqI8YfmqJsqbyor1Y7YbwoCJMbQgto4b8 sti7Jo30My0Cvaq6QZ6W7Bw10KCUuxNjI.1MyxD65CUbCmH5d5uaTNQ3Cvqo qBdYIird.qhLg5QR6O0mN1KkDmkDcPA-- smtp240.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Oct 2013 17:13:06 +0000 UTC References: From: Mike Munson Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 12:13:05 -0500 To: marty sukey Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Kentucky race track Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Www.drivebluegrass.com They have the base coat of the racing surface down. Don't expect to be racing there anytime soon. Another track is being built right across the highway from the Corvette plant where I work. I have been watching the progress daily from work. They are saying the racing surface should be finished next spring. It's less than 15 minutes from my house! How cool is that?! www.motorsportpark.org Mike Munson #28 EP TR6 > On Oct 7, 2013, at 9:02 PM, marty sukey wrote: > > Anybody ever hear of what happened with that new track they were building in > Kentucky a few years ago? Bluegrass or something like that. Seem to recall it > was almost finished about 4 years ago and that was the last I heard. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 8 12:23:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D504041E for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 12:23:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f50.google.com (mail-bk0-f50.google.com [209.85.214.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4047A403EE for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 11:37:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-bk0-f50.google.com with SMTP id mz11so3393248bkb.37 for ; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 10:35:12 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=dg1gtaLB9OVKdEBaYYRifvKfeQc+7zkjrjiBxJ4M6ec=; b=fdvYxdhBITVqlKEZ2mdRzL6FTd4gpBNIG7MlRHcMfwqWBIJtIpt4uILvvP6v0F5lae uqzLv/6b/VGU5uS+ebRcP5W1wVHyJwxnbuhDbSvgyi/8x/FpQyuhwfvlgOkiC0EGOm7E n+d6dYn6BMlTvhrlL6ojugdBEoGxNVlB2V126ksuc1Da5sw/0jJnhGC4bM9XxnXRNOXN hmOISh3AP9CwKeAVGq8PBY9HSD6AWgMjhH/vopDbqRdpJS24zXsQEhyOkq8a09l/ef0i IFlENhnNXkdCl4c5mz/FaBQe/8qgInhsjaE4BBy9uiC3ATnChaPNy0aFtAoNzRFeaQVw VQsw== iv7mr2740740bkb.32.1381253711795; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 10:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([31.213.231.107]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b7sm21238896bkg.1.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 08 Oct 2013 10:35:11 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <742F1F88F9C44F33B8B1A64509A33246@hpd530> <518424826.3464900.1381243643117.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 19:35:18 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac7EOL96V7t+kTp0T2i4a5hEz4EW2QAE/KjQ Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] First race complete Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Very good result for the first time. -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von davehogye Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. Oktober 2013 16:47 An: Bill Tobin Cc: Fot@autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] First race complete Thanks for all the nice congratulation guys. I am still grinning. My best timed practice was 2:16.8, 15th, qualifying time was 2:12.5 about 16th of 33. Race time was 2:10.7 15th overall of 32. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Tobin" To: "davehogye" , Fot@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 4:34:29 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] First race complete Dave, congratulations!!!!!!!! Great feeling, isn't it. Glad you had fun; keep having fun, that's the most important thing. The other important thing is to do all the wrenching you can at home before the race, then just drive the car and mingle (BS) with the other guys at the race! More fun than working on the car all weekend. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "davehogye" To: Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 12:50 PM Subject: [Fot] First race complete > Hello Friends, > I want to share the news of completing my first race weekend in my TR3. > The 10th Annual Charity Challenge at Sears Point. It was a perfect > weekend for me and the car. Steadily improving throughout the weekend > and surprising veteran drivers while doing so. > I brought the car home clean and did nothing but drive, check tire > pressures and add gas all weekend. > I was very fortunate to share paddock space with Tony Garmey and his > crewman Ray Quick. They generously provided a canopy spot and other > amenities throughout the weekend and certainly added a degree of calm > for me with tips and suggestions. Thanks, Tony and Ray. My brother Tom > and nephew Tommy stood by with much appreciated assistance as well. > I completed 3 practice sessions on Friday, 1 timed practice Saturday > morning, 4 charity drives ($75/ passenger) totaling 13 laps during > lunch at near race speeds and the qualifying race. On Sunday I ran > morning warmup, 1 more charity drive during lunch, Triumph club parade > laps and the race. I figured that I drove around 160 miles on track. > I made numerous passes during the weekend and was in a close battle > with a Healey 3000, MGA and Alfa Giulietta Sprint during the race. I > was able to get by the Healey and attempted a couple passes of the > Alfa and MG, but in the end settled in behind them. > What a blast! > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 8 13:28:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CEB4042E for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:28:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com (mail-bk0-f41.google.com [209.85.214.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C9940326 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 12:33:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-bk0-f41.google.com with SMTP id na10so3516422bkb.0 for ; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 11:31:45 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:thread-index:content-language; bh=9kpvotuH0J3n7X9ouu7PaFlW4GlKskks012oEF9OG8c=; b=HgEDfbgkIGSLKIn0OEayBMj4Zla3oXo4c2veL6ppSKt7KVCWnLB0SMpMZQoX8eO1wi 7XV+zWc0DMv0jOJsLyBy4H4+WZZ/ocpH0RUNNjQyzmihjEDLI8Odx+ZljeIs5oDiecVO p9d40bdKAcwWrEB8chhOfBACLdrAjklihMQ7a2wWqgCYXWt9uN1n/ftPhnCOchtUD70z pnFcl6GxVWCvACekeePWFdFGgJYNkK2GDiOMC01UyNCVEHcY2sYNtrWiz8kOS7Isq+Qe AIwFr3TqWhicBQurRpLF7Xycik0XPdmcL94QwsXRmjLqHUYzNO3ODbgt6C9DAMyYnRBH 3Vkg== xn16mr2934253bkb.31.1381257105456; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 11:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([31.213.231.107]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id l5sm21370088bko.7.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 08 Oct 2013 11:31:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <002101cec44c$c2aab8d0$48002a70$@com> <1493268511.3470889.1381256734957.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 20:31:50 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac7EVA+yP1ZYpUwIT16ZfNx/9f7KHAAAIiAQ Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] First race complete Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Inspire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAnOylx4J3E Von: davehogye [mailto:dlhogye@comcast.net] Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. Oktober 2013 20:26 An: MadMarx Betreff: Re: [Fot] First race complete Thanks Chris, You inspire me to perform well. Dave _____ From: "MadMarx" To: Fot@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 10:35:18 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] First race complete Very good result for the first time. -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von davehogye Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. Oktober 2013 16:47 An: Bill Tobin Cc: Fot@autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] First race complete Thanks for all the nice congratulation guys. I am still grinning. My best timed practice was 2:16.8, 15th, qualifying time was 2:12.5 about 16th of 33. Race time was 2:10.7 15th overall of 32. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Tobin" To: "davehogye" , Fot@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 4:34:29 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] First race complete Dave, congratulations!!!!!!!! Great feeling, isn't it. Glad you had fun; keep having fun, that's the most important thing. The other important thing is to do all the wrenching you can at home before the race, then just drive the car and mingle (BS) with the other guys at the race! More fun than working on the car all weekend. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "davehogye" To: Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 12:50 PM Subject: [Fot] First race complete > Hello Friends, > I want to share the news of completing my first race weekend in my TR3. > The 10th Annual Charity Challenge at Sears Point. It was a perfect > weekend for me and the car. Steadily improving throughout the weekend > and surprising veteran drivers while doing so. > I brought the car home clean and did nothing but drive, check tire > pressures and add gas all weekend. > I was very fortunate to share paddock space with Tony Garmey and his > crewman Ray Quick. They generously provided a canopy spot and other > amenities throughout the weekend and certainly added a degree of calm > for me with tips and suggestions. Thanks, Tony and Ray. My brother Tom > and nephew Tommy stood by with much appreciated assistance as well. > I completed 3 practice sessions on Friday, 1 timed practice Saturday > morning, 4 charity drives ($75/ passenger) totaling 13 laps during > lunch at near race speeds and the qualifying race. On Sunday I ran > morning warmup, 1 more charity drive during lunch, Triumph club parade > laps and the race. I figured that I drove around 160 miles on track. > I made numerous passes during the weekend and was in a close battle > with a Healey 3000, MGA and Alfa Giulietta Sprint during the race. I > was able to get by the Healey and attempted a couple passes of the > Alfa and MG, but in the end settled in behind them. > What a blast! > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 8 13:53:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58BC40440 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:53:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A0940329 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 12:57:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.76]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ahQ21m0031eYJf8ABivbMi; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 18:55:35 +0000 Received: from Bud ([67.164.120.205]) by omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aiva1m0084RzRTX01iva8a; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 18:55:35 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "'MadMarx'" , References: <742F1F88F9C44F33B8B1A64509A33246@hpd530> <518424826.3464900.1381243643117.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <002101cec44c$c2aab8d0$48002a70$@com> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 11:55:30 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac7EOL96V7t+kTp0T2i4a5hEz4EW2QAE/KjQAALDznA= Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1381258535; bh=BA8/7UnqsSs6Js/WJoD7z0wNo5RwTDXji+dRZyuqMK0=; h=Received:Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UA9f60rY9TiHXHSuH9QTHu07ZBQyCR62/jtErv4ihEH9heTTSB7CHv2M1eiB6v6QL f8whD/qsZClAX/cbun03D+uJwXIu7ILKUKufIvmixjLPGfeml8K/Ml0wEKy/jWj26i Cvw/kMJWTQmpEI+XddHCpF68/z2eT/CGz7VdYtobsALQOlsOvUBKC3LemibQdJ1UiQ WTERP+GHGcHbat1vqomJsGXnvUqtGJIaBShTrLf0A0iH2cw4kMZFksa20aK2Bk/SK5 D0d99vWlnJqjj78gTU45OT1CashSwl732A4kpualFqIFHtizTDBklLl5/Xpk1kJMQo uRS/rOFl677yg== Subject: Re: [Fot] First race complete Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Very good times for a tough to learn track..Your Dad would be very proud RB -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of MadMarx Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:35 AM To: Fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] First race complete Very good result for the first time. -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von davehogye Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. Oktober 2013 16:47 An: Bill Tobin Cc: Fot@autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] First race complete Thanks for all the nice congratulation guys. I am still grinning. My best timed practice was 2:16.8, 15th, qualifying time was 2:12.5 about 16th of 33. Race time was 2:10.7 15th overall of 32. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Tobin" To: "davehogye" , Fot@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 4:34:29 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] First race complete Dave, congratulations!!!!!!!! Great feeling, isn't it. Glad you had fun; keep having fun, that's the most important thing. The other important thing is to do all the wrenching you can at home before the race, then just drive the car and mingle (BS) with the other guys at the race! More fun than working on the car all weekend. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "davehogye" To: Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 12:50 PM Subject: [Fot] First race complete > Hello Friends, > I want to share the news of completing my first race weekend in my TR3. > The 10th Annual Charity Challenge at Sears Point. It was a perfect > weekend for me and the car. Steadily improving throughout the weekend > and surprising veteran drivers while doing so. > I brought the car home clean and did nothing but drive, check tire > pressures and add gas all weekend. > I was very fortunate to share paddock space with Tony Garmey and his > crewman Ray Quick. They generously provided a canopy spot and other > amenities throughout the weekend and certainly added a degree of calm > for me with tips and suggestions. Thanks, Tony and Ray. My brother Tom > and nephew Tommy stood by with much appreciated assistance as well. > I completed 3 practice sessions on Friday, 1 timed practice Saturday > morning, 4 charity drives ($75/ passenger) totaling 13 laps during > lunch at near race speeds and the qualifying race. On Sunday I ran > morning warmup, 1 more charity drive during lunch, Triumph club parade > laps and the race. I figured that I drove around 160 miles on track. > I made numerous passes during the weekend and was in a close battle > with a Healey 3000, MGA and Alfa Giulietta Sprint during the race. I > was able to get by the Healey and attempted a couple passes of the > Alfa and MG, but in the end settled in behind them. > What a blast! > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 8 14:26:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3300440513 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 14:26:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f47.google.com (mail-bk0-f47.google.com [209.85.214.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9B3403DA for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:40:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-bk0-f47.google.com with SMTP id mx12so3393811bkb.6 for ; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 12:38:38 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=DL8kioCh4B3y3lCiEQCecocEHQqewT1TTo2gReNQrK8=; b=uFE0jGtBjouFjuBonbxvkQocS4S8dd0rjjZfBi+dUhu+WV6y9jI9b4TH7wqLPPerp9 BNeEmzOq5vxwJZRIMd/E9lJCXugfjvrxxtDDYaP6rcYfG8iQkjYadyBYSep5vZMg4xWX Dlx92aFbM3Fjj1QgAOxyPZs55w/E+SPZhB5bAS2i+k0BOHZI6Gwf7PxtJCNTwvuEYI6t ltfF3mQvF/jvnmaGvy/or+sXaJwXBr+EVSMyFgRjaEX2hD7ddCARwf34UY/Uk4AAHN39 eWpKANYQ/0FlOdH70O7WV4+wUIdCK3TSaLqzFFBCCJYdh0wJO5r6iVxnaQNkh+VoX8oN R7gg== xl14mr3207237bkb.1.1381261118234; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 12:38:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([31.213.231.107]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id pn6sm21521920bkb.14.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 08 Oct 2013 12:38:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <742F1F88F9C44F33B8B1A64509A33246@hpd530> <518424826.3464900.1381243643117.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <002101cec44c$c2aab8d0$48002a70$@com> <001201cec457$f61f7a60$e25e6f20$@net> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 21:38:45 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac7EOL96V7t+kTp0T2i4a5hEz4EW2QAE/KjQAALDznAAAYm2AA== Content-Language: de Subject: [Fot] RGB Seasons final at the RING Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I was busy last weekend: Race1: http://youtu.be/GnXfLWWiGzE Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 8 21:38:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8923A42713 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 21:38:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEEAE40454 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 21:14:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB44EA0242 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 21:14:12 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 21:14:10 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Team.Net changes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You may or may not get this in a timely fashion. The appropriate dials have been tweaked so that autox.team.net is now on the new network. But it takes some time for the new information to get spread around the world, probably less than a day in most cases. But you may see some glitches in sending and receiving email, don't worry, it will all settle down soon. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 9 03:03:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F5140536 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 03:03:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f171.google.com (mail-ea0-f171.google.com [209.85.215.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB7540406 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 02:51:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f171.google.com with SMTP id n15so228947ead.30 for ; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 01:50:42 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:thread-index:content-language; bh=WIBoCGMGT+qAvo5/TiaysgPkzJLqdoGwyae0M31GMoU=; 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Thu, 10 Oct 2013 16:06:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <742F1F88F9C44F33B8B1A64509A33246@hpd530> <518424826.3464900.1381243643117.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <002101cec44c$c2aab8d0$48002a70$@com> <001201cec457$f61f7a60$e25e6f20$@net> <004201cec45e$013ae550$03b0aff0$@com> <005501cec46c$7bc0ad60$73420820$@com> <002901cec4cc$a884c8d0$f98e5a70$@com> <005f01cec506$411a6e90$c34f4bb0$@com> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 01:05:59 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac7FCFu/1vDO5+A2SEKb9YUFUpGBEwBBNyUg Content-Language: de Subject: [Fot] RGB Seasons final at the RING Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net And the last race: http://youtu.be/B4cdLjifQFY _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 11 12:03:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899FB42F06 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 12:03:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail175c2.megamailservers.com (mail175c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F0040528 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 11:55:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail175c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r9BHtRS1018520 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 13:55:32 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 13:55:26 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7GqxDenjGP2/gnTrSdR+U3HklnlA== a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=FnBkQJ4B3a1gK2ORc1sA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=kA1rEfTLbOJz5i6F:21 a=MKiO26OutmBoGS8V:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: [Fot] Carbs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Has anyone had any experience with using HS8 carbs on a TR4? That would be the 2 inch SU's. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 11 13:00:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6FD42F19 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 13:00:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67FF840528 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 12:59:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.69]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 44367700000A7; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:58:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.0.10.6] (unknown [38.108.56.239]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id D9206E0000A4; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:58:32 -0400 (EDT) From: John Frymark Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 13:58:32 -0500 To: "jhhasty@gdhs.com" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1381517913; bh=PHJqhygGOAFyt87sq9w7nUk/tiz30ZUur37Xa+Q59Ko=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=WyOOnUqejOdCWQtL/4gtKoxgEZftnBb7I/qkcmnC56L5AC4iZG538K06Gd+xvUBfO 2MPdrcjdfj+qZNtKoMThsek9aHDLppZ8NXg9XM4dqGtNALRanOww5eaxTVPaqGfZAe +kL85Ybd355oHS8A+Hl+9iigD32hfDS1ZN6VEkWY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294552584a5867ac Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] 2" SU carbs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Years ago I bought a TR3 "race prep'd" engine with 2" SUs. I was told by several people that it was too much carb for the engine so I never tried the set up. Still have the intake and carbs in a box. Don't know what engine(s) had them fitted OEM. Jaguar? John Frymark _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 11 13:16:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E95742EEE for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 13:16:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d02.mx.aol.com (omr-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0B34044A for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 13:10:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.201]) by omr-d02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9C32D7013E60F; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 15:09:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dlc004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dlc004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.182.77]) by mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 26009E00008F; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 15:09:56 -0400 (EDT) References: <35BF5359-DBEA-4378-880C-D75D7E0C41F7@aol.com> To: jfrymark@aol.com, jhhasty@gdhs.com Received: from 64.134.186.42 by webmail-m206.sysops.aol.com (64.12.75.230) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 11 Oct 2013 15:09:55 -0400 From: Chuck Gee Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 15:09:56 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1381518596; bh=maQHYr/mYP5WTRd/Acg/MdPfNhGe4hzmnbse+Vjxt3o=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JtB0ew4Sq2NpCfYn3QW65BCIQG/5wXA9MfG8zULLVZiOTOaBe+JRrfV2q5rP+fkiM H5MAEEIZV7MnDDFPZorjpJJo9wT4CTw1ToMDMyW9d1dbJqlBtxbjc/xjZylkNfZShI 3kcBO66JBY3rmF/mKRGk1GP+6Voznpu1qC0Kx+DA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c952584d046b1f Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 2" SU carbs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, Jaguar for one. -----Original Message----- From: John Frymark To: jhhasty Cc: fot Sent: Fri, Oct 11, 2013 12:01 pm Subject: [Fot] 2" SU carbs Years ago I bought a TR3 "race prep'd" engine with 2" SUs. I was told by everal people that it was too much carb for the engine so I never tried the et up. Still have the intake and carbs in a box. Don't know what engine(s) ad them fitted OEM. Jaguar? John Frymark ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 11 14:18:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9AC542F1D for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:18:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail107.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail107.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B50429B9 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 13:50:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from geoffPC (c220-239-97-219.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.97.219]) (Authenticated sender: gkbyrne@optusnet.com.au) by mail107.syd.optusnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 9407AD42BF6 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 06:50:27 +1100 (EST) From: "Geoff Byrne" To: "Friends of Triumph" Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 06:50:31 +1100 Thread-Index: Ac7Guc7nSExJk5tqTR+ogxYm6yI8cw== Content-Language: en-au a=n/CIiUKuP8r6VOFQHWj+kw==:117 a=n/CIiUKuP8r6VOFQHWj+kw==:17 a=PO7r1zJSAAAA:8 a=lojdg71KAAAA:8 a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=Zr7miEi8wWIA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=q86yNStaYK6dE3oLBY0A:9 a=K8WeRTb-p2Y9O12d:21 a=ghXqV4yDnAUbes2B:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=PXxhVycSNd0Y8PBnGFcA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 Subject: [Fot] Ultrarev Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici Have any of you dealt with Ultrarev? I recently tried the purchase an item off them using my credit card only to be told I have to send photo ID and proof of shipping address. I have never had to do anything like this before and I make lots of offshore purchases. Even with a phone call to try to clear this up did not solve the problem. Surely by contacting the credit card company the legitimacy of the transaction could be confirmed!!! Result I had to cancel the order. Regards Geoff Byrne TR6 racer down under _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 11 17:02:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B48842F0C for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:02:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from col0-omc2-s4.col0.hotmail.com (col0-omc2-s4.col0.hotmail.com [65.55.34.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F73740417 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:02:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from COL130-DS26 ([65.55.34.73]) by col0-omc2-s4.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 11 Oct 2013 15:50:12 -0700 From: "Terry Stetler" To: , "John Frymark" References: <35BF5359-DBEA-4378-880C-D75D7E0C41F7@aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 18:50:11 -0400 Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 18:50:11 -0400 FILETIME=[3E5CF950:01CEC6D4] Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 2" SU carbs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, Jaguar for one, Aston Martin as well as the larger British rides, though Rolls Royce had specific SUs just for them. Are they HD 8s with the diaphram jet adjustment? Terry Stetler ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 2:58 PM Subject: [Fot] 2" SU carbs Years ago I bought a TR3 "race prep'd" engine with 2" SUs. I was told by several people that it was too much carb for the engine so I never tried the set up. Still have the intake and carbs in a box. Don't know what engine(s) had them fitted OEM. Jaguar? John Frymark _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tlizzard@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 11 18:00:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A511C42F1F for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 18:00:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s28.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s28.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB9C42F06 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 18:00:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W136 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s28.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:00:19 -0700 From: marty sukey To: John Frymark , "jhhasty@gdhs.com" Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 20:00:19 -0400 References: <35BF5359-DBEA-4378-880C-D75D7E0C41F7@aol.com> FILETIME=[0A5A4310:01CEC6DE] Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] 2" SU carbs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I replaced the ZS on my TR6 with HD8's a while back. I think they were from a big Healey. With no serious tuning done other than tweaked based on how the plugs looked my 1/4 mile times were pretty much the same. However it made a HUGE improvement on being able to take left hand corners at autocrosses due to the center float rod setup. Besides that they look really cool on there.:) Funny, I just went through the same learning curve on the spitfire. I haven't forgot about you Ernie.... Marty ---------------------------------------- > From: jfrymark@aol.com > Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 13:58:32 -0500 > To: jhhasty@gdhs.com > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] 2" SU carbs > > Years ago I bought a TR3 "race prep'd" engine with 2" SUs. I was told by > several people that it was too much carb for the engine so I never tried the > set up. Still have the intake and carbs in a box. Don't know what engine(s) > had them fitted OEM. Jaguar? > > John Frymark > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 11 19:32:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D50942F41 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:32:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m06.mx.aol.com (omr-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027CD42F0C for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:26:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.137]) by omr-m06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id AEE7A700308C7; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 21:26:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dle004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dle004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.166.141]) by mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 6AC55E000087; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 21:26:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Catpusher@aol.com Full-name: Catpusher Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 21:26:04 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1381541164; bh=xCwOFZXmcfqmreF3uAe/5ZwKduCvAFH1vaXMqfoiTVI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eg2yqAniXuEeK/azHqA4zWXMf2vkAGoC/+fCnBtwOU5ErVBSCiv/ZFDM+dPxC8TUN 5t//7qmFIzgfN1jBEzYYJvy3K8B+0DA1q8AFskcT/iOzjBMSs1+rIuGcpGXmeQsc5X iiYMJDKbthfEY7D89r/h3GsXlhOe+48RLI08AUHQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33895258a52c6659 Subject: [Fot] Subject: Carbs 2" TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I Have them on our TR3 race car, is that close enough? The cost, time, and effort was not justified by the slight lap time reduction, and slight HP increase. Expect considerable dyno and track development time, and a working "choke" assy. We could start races with less weight, because the fuel mileage was better. TR Regards, Hardy Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 13:55:26 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: Subject: [Fot] Carbs Has anyone had any experience with using HS8 carbs on a TR4? That would be the 2 inch SU's. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 12 15:10:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF6542F59 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 15:10:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f45.google.com (mail-qa0-f45.google.com [209.85.216.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4FDF40548 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 15:10:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id ii20so1384534qab.18 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 14:10:22 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=wEXUGYGWvMvmhyEeiCCX+tMkvRYfYboNbv4RX1N4vhI=; b=0xVCjKtEFGiyo3fS7DhLcuL2k6pK5ZxKEs0QJLBWzl1tvOXKT+UwkoZYDjjO1SvfrN TGuEmsEVNW/o9kA7U9nU/uFSbgcNCglIZowmtk2NmbZxXl8qs5ViYuih4OX5K6T65hoP iUYyO52vCdBiyMGy2bwXKjxj4Qxktxw1Jnr27Ezhe0us+FRej2sI+WsRjusk/rBtK5HC /K9Jo78V09N/wJ9twjr9+jTdV6ms0QZ1Z+pTI1PbpNYhu8F0AoxwkKz2KG4Dc8dPy8li zLJURIZBomWoaCaw4whDoo5bOq9XkhFGFEydeLwU/nBcOFh+cA6gX0cSrz8QhAQTHL+7 humQ== k9mr28220556qci.11.1381612222405; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 14:10:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.138.73 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 14:09:42 -0700 (PDT) References: <5774637972230862664@unknownmsgid> From: Kas Kastner Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 14:09:42 -0700 To: fot Subject: [Fot] Fwd: From the Waaaay Back Machine ... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fantastic footage and sounds. Long, but great stuff. *Never be beaten by equipment.* * * *Supercharged G/P cars from 1924-1939.* * * * Great pix of Brooklands & many other G/P courses.* * * *Sound effects added to the early years.* * * *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCP_GJ8JBOE*** * * *~ 39 minutes ~* _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 12 15:31:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C320242F78 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 15:31:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm13-vm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm13-vm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CD7A42A55 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 15:30:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.167] by nm13.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Oct 2013 21:29:45 -0000 Received: from [67.195.22.108] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Oct 2013 21:29:45 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp104.rog.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Oct 2013 21:29:45 -0000 s=s1024; t=1381613385; bh=NdbXfhKx6Y+rmbzRLnALgVnbSoeQZDBIlyxPEiAPKwU=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=3RKcZ0TZEDmB63gcxtxo5ZNn/VWzZSq+1+8nFdmddIzDg2kxCh98Csfl1hWwzwY7GJomn43VMSUSnXZ9xyLuhBL16Yi9MxmzESDyBZ6sysezYbnojknLtrPl/61ZrnMIz6YKFGnspH/VXul70Jm79/36ZIy6vb+QDBQhMOQJ9LI= maguZCsKvFOXnbEbaHAiysnAnRNOHwhMsutfeYwH.yWX5cSVjvnUsXEd0_xB ZPNY1pAPgKQJ6svL6lxrHvHoIHpCCXHeI4dTQAwJG5GlQi648ZKvy1IJ41Wh 4v3g9A4UNMwfk4lLR7CYDqw.YHoMR.6T.rjIeAeg5p8Jkkh3pfHn5tcFGFaa E4PS5Rrr69zDS7tXwt36y5jQCePrpaKpJRNiuM9RAucPyYVImhuzQm7nDhcs YiTeMQN6QYOdQ4gxL2YNMr0mzZmAaF6oi_m3LdfsjXmfq_8Yhjzz3dnNq_Yv F_g.WTMQ61AHQkuGqmr3bzJKxZwcpNaoI5.rorpmt_9jXzFYontvsakQR7e5 GW6hwrBNMoOeymYN6b6ApiT4BEvZ6egIhBbbFQq0q9cRe8yhOgBUX8ePh5ZM 8xmf5qTFR42MKJlNvmqNgZcGxEju9Baqp4v0KvtpPh6j3Q0WGkt37E1GdHhP .0mFxMRY6.UbEca0CoA.HMuIHtrfkSJqQ3kTWji8rpXyagddDdeEFuMX9ds1 yBl_YSHXEIGIpM63NK.TmdwCHGASchJx_8nDjmuDF2i2crcJwsAwgH8ed6RU 3FhJCpYNuNM16GZsp9Nlpw9srWDmQLQqtHepETi285T8QkRiJsyxCRHPuTA- - smtp104.rog.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Oct 2013 14:29:45 -0700 PDT From: "Paul MacDonald" To: "Tr8 List" , "Fot" Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 17:29:52 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7HkirUpdhk6f4gQRio89AdIkjDsQ== Content-Language: en-ca Subject: [Fot] Bullet Reloaded--a Review Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I thought I would write a bit of a review of John Clancy's latest, Bullet Reloaded. First off I thought that it would be similar to Bullet, the first DVD with the title. It is NOT, it is completely new with no overlaps or repeated content. What it is however is a very well-crafted collection of information, archival video and interviews with key TR7/8 people that designed, manufactured, marketed, raced and continue to enjoy the cars. John has really dug deep with some of the best information not presented before in video or in print (I have most of the books on the cars too). Not to spoil it but some of the new stuff includes: -Interviews, background and video footage of Ted Schumacher racing TR8s back in the day -A terrific discussion of the rear end geometry including the rally modifications needed and why the need for all the bushings -The definitive talk about those heavy front bumpers and another way the scuttle shake could have been remedied -Kas Kastner talking about the TR7 turbo car - Mike Cook about the introduction of the cars -An interesting discussion of the shortness of the wheelbase and factory support/or otherwise by noted rally drivers -Lots of time talking to Bob Tullius about his racing the Group 44 TR8 and in particular I enjoyed a discussion of the origins of the front spoiler and roof spoiler used on the Group 44 cars, and the creation of the rear spoiler. Then there is a DVD solely reserved for Ken Slagle with lots of race footage and interviews. Over 3 hours of content, very enjoyable and worth every cent. The amount of work and tracking people down combined with the high standard of the production from John Clancy on this set of 3 DVDs is spectacular, a real boost for the story of these cars. Thanks John www.triumphdvd.co.uk and the link to the trailer on YouTube is http://youtu.be/npaBfBrVh0U _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 12 16:02:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E14542F83 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 16:02:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d05.mx.aol.com (omr-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0EF142A55 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 15:59:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.5]) by omr-d05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 2DCCF700000A1; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 17:59:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id A0445E00020C; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 17:59:13 -0400 (EDT) References: <001201cec792$30cf55d0$926e0170$@rogers.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 16:59:11 -0500 To: Paul MacDonald x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1381615154; bh=FzgJts+pl1kp1ylkDY1P/J9EFhyqBV8JQuxbalvlycc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=nhXQ/iDDHkSlL/rn6iEcrUNsXQLXx9qTctQDhx3sTYmdKJM5XPIjzLozH9GBlMHKz z/ffmlRd+7zby2HDMgOHokjYENEugvTv4bF2HRHzVaKBi8xhahywqZOIKHhhSfKjBS UU/wFqh+MT1wni6acyaavPHXkAuXJQX/OeuOw2DY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29055259c6317fe3 Cc: Fot , Tr8 List Subject: Re: [Fot] Bullet Reloaded--a Review Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Paul, I am importing these, and other titles, from John Clancy in bulk and sending them out in North America. If there is interest, I can have then in a few days and will distribute. Contact me at N197TR4@CS.COM BTW, John is planning to be with us at the next Kastner Cup race in Texas and is bringing a special guest. He plans to do a comprehensive video of the Kastner Cup weekend, as well. Regards, Joe Alexander Sent from my iPad > On Oct 12, 2013, at 4:29 PM, "Paul MacDonald" wrote: > > includes: _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 12 17:28:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E0B42F7E for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 17:28:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail175c2.megamailservers.com (mail175c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D997A42B1A for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 17:27:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.224.119.232] (127.sub-174-228-0.myvzw.com [174.228.0.127]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail175c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r9CNRaDC018818 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 19:27:38 -0400 From: John Hasty Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 19:27:33 -0400 To: FOT a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=FYB016YmB7QHmYnO1dnE5Q==:17 a=xu3f_epH5iPN6C98Ri8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=OhWelB8L86wA:10 a=FRlpo2JdVj4A:10 a=FYB016YmB7QHmYnO1dnE5Q==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: [Fot] Dash Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Have New Tr3 dash with center gage panel. If you need it's yours for cost of shipping. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 14 02:55:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C26429A2 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 02:55:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s14.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s14.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.89]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160B640E1A for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 02:54:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU402-EAS81 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s14.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 13 Oct 2013 15:29:34 -0700 References: <5774637972230862664@unknownmsgid> From: Chuck WATSON Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 18:29:30 -0400 To: Kas Kastner FILETIME=[B15F1880:01CEC863] Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: From the Waaaay Back Machine ... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I knew little about these early cars but the video was really entertaining and full of interesting facts. It fit in with a bio of Enzo Ferrari I read recently by Peter Brock (which was somewhat less entertaining). Sent from my iPhone On Oct 12, 2013, at 5:11 PM, "Kas Kastner" wrote: > Fantastic footage and sounds. Long, but great stuff. > > *Never be beaten by equipment.* > > * * > > *Supercharged G/P cars from 1924-1939.* > > * * > > * Great pix of Brooklands & many other G/P courses.* > > * * > > *Sound effects added to the early years.* > > * * > > *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCP_GJ8JBOE*** > > * * > > *~ 39 minutes ~* > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/clw2000@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 14 07:07:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9935542F81 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 07:07:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-relay-3.cniteam.com (omr-relay-3.cniteam.com [209.143.0.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BAA7403E8 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 07:07:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rg7.cniteam.com (rg7.cniteam.com [209.143.0.247]) by omr-relay-3.cniteam.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r9ED7aBc020724 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 09:07:36 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([216.201.14.237]) by rg7.cniteam.com (MOS 4.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id CBO82663 (AUTH tedtsimx@bright.net) for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 09:07:34 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 09:07:38 -0400 From: Ted Schumacher User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <35BF5359-DBEA-4378-880C-D75D7E0C41F7@aol.com> refid=str=0001.0A020204.525BEC98.019E, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-09-13 19:33:14, dmn=2013-04-19 10:07:54, mode=single engine Subject: Re: [Fot] 2" SU carbs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Rover 2000TC had HS8's. Ted On 10/11/2013 6:50 PM, Terry Stetler wrote: > Yes, Jaguar for one, Aston Martin as well as the larger British rides, though > Rolls Royce had specific SUs just for them. > > Are they HD 8s with the diaphram jet adjustment? > > Terry Stetler > ----- Original Message ----- > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 2:58 PM > Subject: [Fot] 2" SU carbs > > > Years ago I bought a TR3 "race prep'd" engine with 2" SUs. I was told by > several people that it was too much carb for the engine so I never tried > the > set up. Still have the intake and carbs in a box. Don't know what engine(s) > had them fitted OEM. Jaguar? > > John Frymark > _______________________________________________ > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tlizzard@msn.com net/mailman/options/fot/tlizzard@msn.com> > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tedtsimx@bright.net > > > > -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx@bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 14 08:59:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 161EB40431 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 08:59:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp450.redcondor.net (smtp450.redcondor.net [208.80.204.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF80403E8 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 08:58:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cgp.netins.net ([167.142.228.73]) by smtp450.redcondor.net ({4ad064a1-3618-4418-b4ee-963987bff397}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20131014145843193; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 14:58:43 +0000 Received: from [208.126.78.151] (account riverside@southslope.net HELO rileyPC) by cgpf1.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.13) with ESMTPA id 613343450; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 09:58:37 -0500 From: To: "Chuck WATSON" , "Kas Kastner" References: <5774637972230862664@unknownmsgid> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 09:58:29 -0500 Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: From the Waaaay Back Machine ... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I must have missed the e-mail with the link to the video. Can someone forward it to me? art de armond -----Original Message----- From: Chuck WATSON Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 5:29 PM To: Kas Kastner Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: From the Waaaay Back Machine ... I knew little about these early cars but the video was really entertaining and full of interesting facts. It fit in with a bio of Enzo Ferrari I read recently by Peter Brock (which was somewhat less entertaining). Sent from my iPhone On Oct 12, 2013, at 5:11 PM, "Kas Kastner" wrote: > Fantastic footage and sounds. Long, but great stuff. > > *Never be beaten by equipment.* > > * * > > *Supercharged G/P cars from 1924-1939.* > > * * > > * Great pix of Brooklands & many other G/P courses.* > > * * > > *Sound effects added to the early years.* > > * * > > *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCP_GJ8JBOE*** > > * * > > *~ 39 minutes ~* > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/clw2000@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside@southslope.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3614/6744 - Release Date: 10/12/13 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 14 10:17:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E047442F8C for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 10:17:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F0DE42F24 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 10:16:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [67.255.13.17] ([67.255.13.17:49477] helo=Shop) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id C0/15-16944-0D81C525; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 16:16:17 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: , Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 12:17:27 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7I+N/xFb7Fau69SxqhKif0WPcdrA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] Handwriting was on the wall..... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This past weekend I invited my neighbor to bring his exotic up to Watkins Glen to join me for the pace car role at the VRG event. That and the beautiful weather is all it took to set the proverbial hook. He's already wanting to look at two possible cars this week to join us racing and is talking about a school and the process of getting out on the track. My suggestion to him was to start with something reasonably sorted out and a bit more tame than a front runner. Speed can always come later as the wallet allows. It's a reality that starting with a street car and adding all the safety; handling and go fast goodies is a very expensive venture that may eclipse the cost of a prepared car. If any of you are aware of a suitable car for sale that would run in group 1 or 2/VRG or $VRA group 1 or 3 let me know please. We're both located in the Fingerlakes region of New York. Travel to look at a possible is not a problem. He already has the trailer and an excellent tow vehicle. Thanks Russ Moore Spitfire #49 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 14 13:50:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB2342F7E for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 13:50:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-ss-1669.hostmonster.com (outbound-ss-1669.hostmonster.com [74.220.206.201]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2211B42B12 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 13:47:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 30504 invoked by uid 0); 14 Oct 2013 17:01:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box609.bluehost.com) (70.40.220.109) by oproxy6.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 14 Oct 2013 17:01:03 -0000 d=klaenv.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Subject:To:From; bh=KRz90nfP5cATE908cr9xtuunCzkf5qCEfLpyJx1Ybjk=; b=myhO8sbHKI45zwmP+ZCJccFTlD8w1x+R+sZt85xnezz3OVn1wGzj2H43yEnPfYOyCLtNEIoli2JG8Dj+eqvF9Cv4Zsqoc3W802Oh7nJsGN1So9/GHPzBiGpzaB7hs4T+; Received: from [74.4.132.121] (port=51517 helo=4ZQFXQ1KENPC) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VVlSP-0008GB-6U for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 10:57:25 -0600 From: "Kenneth Knight" To: "FOT" Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 09:57:24 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac7I/i1jAcGPmfisSQmxpgY3m9jtZg== Content-Language: en-us {sentby:smtp auth 74.4.132.121 authed with kknight@klaenv.com} Subject: [Fot] Hans Device Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Friends: If you still are on the fence regarding the purchase of a HANS, or similar device, read Sam Smith's column in Road and Track November, 2013 issue (pg. 32). Racing is a calculated risk, make sure the numbers are in your favor as much as possible. Enough said. Ken _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 14 14:29:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43DF242F9C for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 14:29:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.race-dogs.com (mail.race-dogs.com [24.180.24.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3DB442A31 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 14:29:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [29.156.31.74] [66.87.67.74] by mail.race-dogs.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-12.3.0.100) id e51c000065919b9c; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 13:29:10 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 13:29:03 -0700 From: John W To: kknight@klaenv.com, fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Hans Device Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net No doubt Ken! Safety first. Tested my new seat, belts and "neck device" (wearing 10 yrs now) at LV. Broke stub axle and glad I invested. Cars can be fixed much easier than the body. JW ViaMobile -------- Original message -------- From: Kenneth Knight Date: 10/14/2013 9:57 AM (GMT-08:00) To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Hans Device Friends: If you still are on the fence regarding the purchase of a HANS, or similar device, read Sam Smith's column in Road and Track November, 2013 issue (pg. 32).B Racing is a calculated risk, make sure the numbers are in your favor as much as possible.B Enough said. Ken _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 14 14:31:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DDEB42FA5 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 14:31:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m03.mx.aol.com (omr-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FCCD42A31 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 14:31:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.9]) by omr-m03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id AC45D700370A2; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 16:31:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtd002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtd002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.197]) by mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 80C0FE000085; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 16:31:18 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 16:31:18 -0400 (EDT) To: kknight@klaenv.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1381782678; bh=8EYwEt2y5g503IhpsWiIPKZryq5SXM2CDjspZ9aHeyk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fWPdCx5/WUijJk+hPC19wI+WwVFzdNj+DJvf+HtYt7AcbK+ycmLTA5xiO8MN6T4WE YCq+Tr+dDIAPz6E/4MjwX39Q+eSL65wRrt4cSlLMkxAn1kmsPdYEHv255dm3PrrEXc Us0A7RY6IXS2Bfl9rDjCINU5MNarhn/LUy+d4yQo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2909525c54963e00 Subject: Re: [Fot] Hans Device Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 10/14/2013 2:51:04 PM Central Daylight Time, kknight@klaenv.com writes: > If you still are on the fence regarding the purchase of a HANS, or > similar > device, read Sam Smith's column in Road and Track November, 2013 issue > (pg. > 32). Racing is a calculated risk, make sure the numbers are in your favor > as much as possible. Enough said. > Amici... I too read that article, and I sure agree it is hard to argue against the need to wear a HANS (or similar) when racing. Why not increase the odds against serious injury or death. Why not take every precaution you can? Why not indeed? It is foolish not to, and articles like the one Sam Smith wrote in the current issue of ROAD & TRACK will help racers come to that conclusion. But in fact, that HANS device is no cart blanch waiver for avoiding injury. From what I understand, it would not have prevented serious injury in what happened at Blackhawk last June. I was not there, but I understand that the driver's head was struck by the wheel of another race car. I am NOT speaking against the importance of wearing a head and neck restraint, I am just not sure it would have been a fix in that Formula Vee race at Blackhawk. But I understand why it caused Sam Smith to quickly question his own safety equipment habits. Racing is dangerous. Fangio said that he considered he was taking his life in his hand every time he took to the track. But that was NOT his greatest fear. He feared causing an incident where another would be injured or killed. I kind of share that feeling. Sure I don't want to be injured myself, but I think I would have an even bigger problem having been involved in an incident I caused, where someone else was injured. I stopped deer hunting not because I was afraid of getting shot, but because I worried about shooting someone else by accident (that happens every year here in Wisconsin). I think...especially in vintage/historic racing, just as important as the need for arm restraints, head & neck restraints, seat belts, roll cages, fire extinguisher, etc., etc., is the need for a good, proper 'Vintage attitude'. Because of the huge disparity in equipment and talent in our sport's race grids, there is no room for 10/10ths (or worse 11/10ths) racing. Wear a HANS (or similar), but also have a good vintage racing attitude. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 14 14:44:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F1542F6F for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 14:44:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail168c2.megamailservers.com (mail168c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5AF442A31 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 14:44:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.250.197.112] (79.sub-174-254-145.myvzw.com [174.254.145.79]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail168c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r9EKi8mw015780 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 14 Oct 2013 16:44:11 -0400 References: <5e63.756ea1e1.3f8dae96@aol.com> From: John Hasty Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 16:44:06 -0400 To: "BillDentin@aol.com" a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=OGz8A2kVQg/5C0oT9N1srw==:17 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=NG0IswC7AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=dt7bU4jTafPkWIIV6OgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=ySgIuqwg-mwA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=OGz8A2kVQg/5C0oT9N1srw==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Hans Device Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Well said Bill. In addition to Hans, I strongly suggest that you have a fire system. Having been on fire I can attest that a hand held unit just doesn't cut it. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2013, at 4:31 PM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/14/2013 2:51:04 PM Central Daylight Time, > kknight@klaenv.com writes: > > >> If you still are on the fence regarding the purchase of a HANS, or >> similar >> device, read Sam Smith's column in Road and Track November, 2013 issue >> (pg. >> 32). Racing is a calculated risk, make sure the numbers are in your favor >> as much as possible. Enough said. >> > > Amici... > > I too read that article, and I sure agree it is hard to argue against the > need to wear a HANS (or similar) when racing. Why not increase the odds > against serious injury or death. Why not take every precaution you can? Why > not indeed? It is foolish not to, and articles like the one Sam Smith wrote > in the current issue of ROAD & TRACK will help racers come to that > conclusion. > > But in fact, that HANS device is no cart blanch waiver for avoiding injury. > From what I understand, it would not have prevented serious injury in what > happened at Blackhawk last June. I was not there, but I understand that > the driver's head was struck by the wheel of another race car. I am NOT > speaking against the importance of wearing a head and neck restraint, I am just > not sure it would have been a fix in that Formula Vee race at Blackhawk. But > I understand why it caused Sam Smith to quickly question his own safety > equipment habits. > > Racing is dangerous. Fangio said that he considered he was taking his life > in his hand every time he took to the track. But that was NOT his greatest > fear. He feared causing an incident where another would be injured or > killed. I kind of share that feeling. Sure I don't want to be injured myself, > but I think I would have an even bigger problem having been involved in an > incident I caused, where someone else was injured. I stopped deer hunting > not because I was afraid of getting shot, but because I worried about shooting > someone else by accident (that happens every year here in Wisconsin). > > I think...especially in vintage/historic racing, just as important as the > need for arm restraints, head & neck restraints, seat belts, roll cages, fire > extinguisher, etc., etc., is the need for a good, proper 'Vintage > attitude'. Because of the huge disparity in equipment and talent in our sport's race > grids, there is no room for 10/10ths (or worse 11/10ths) racing. > > Wear a HANS (or similar), but also have a good vintage racing attitude. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 14 15:08:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C0842F4A for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 15:08:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d07.mx.aol.com (omr-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7928842F36 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 15:07:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.131]) by omr-d07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1C25770146970; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 17:07:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.116] (71-13-26-216.dhcp.dlth.mn.charter.com [71.13.26.216]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 78A93E0000C5; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 17:07:05 -0400 (EDT) References: <5e63.756ea1e1.3f8dae96@aol.com> From: Jhouathome Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 16:07:06 -0500 To: "BillDentin@aol.com" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1381784825; bh=dqyvtJyPimtL70/SVTETSK+Hb2rxzxXAQf3LZ/d8oTA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=Ra/VaV1hmIeoAyqIYyV842Xhr07/ya9xE8Rthq+uXGeHAsMhPsuFcHjmk5ryeefWB hSBb21nY49IsGYcVPRez3aPUtpX8SBpXz/KGlUJcOFAMpKOqZ666RBWyO3o/VKsrwm CE/46B2+oPjdXQ0B8xehcgsZkjooSXxsOWjvSflc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d3383525c5cf953b0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Hans Device Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Well put both Bill and Ken. Bill, you are correct that a HANS would not have saved Bob Hanneman in the incident at Blackhawk. His fatal injuries were not neck/spinal in nature. That however in no way suggests that a HANS is not a critical piece of safety equipment. I have had several discussions regarding the need for or advisability of a proper head restraint system. I am 100% convinced that it is. Just as all of our fire protection will not protect us from blunt force trauma injuries, a HANS will not protect us from injury to our bodies from forces outside of the HANS influence. All of our safety devices and components including belts, seats and seat mounting, roll structure, fire suppression, flame and heat protection, arm restraints, helmet, and head and neck system, not to mention the army of track safety personnel, are designed to work in concert to produce an all inclusive safety plan. To leave out any single part of that plan is to leave yourself needlessly exposed. It simply makes no sense. Bill, you observations about driving and the vintage spirit are most accurate and appreciated. The foundational source of most racing incidents is driver error, or at least failure to drive in such a way that the accident was avoided in the first place. I have investigated countless incidents and crashes over the years, and the overwhelming majority were the result of either driver error or one or more drivers failing to drive defensively. Having a 360 degree field of awareness, driving in a 100% predictable fashion, and practicing the vintage motto of "when in doubt, don't" will keep you out of most incidents. Yes, there are mechanical failures, and yes there are those circumstances when we cannot avoid someone else's problem or mistake, but most incidents are self-inflicted or at least the result of contributory negligence. Only relatively rarely are incidents "unavoidable". That having been said, we all make mistakes and have lapses in judgement, and things break either from poor prep, fatigue, or pushing beyond the limits of generally ancient chassis engineering. That's why we have safety systems. But there can be no argument that the safest incidents are those that never occur, and the best use for safety equipment is to never have to use it at all, but for those situations, regardless of cause, when I find myself in an incident I want every bit of current safety equipment available working for me. Every time I replace an out of date set of belts or helmet I say a prayer of thanks that I get to retire that item from old age, and I never had to rely on it! John Houlton Sent from my iPad On Oct 14, 2013, at 3:31 PM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/14/2013 2:51:04 PM Central Daylight Time, > kknight@klaenv.com writes: > > >> If you still are on the fence regarding the purchase of a HANS, or >> similar >> device, read Sam Smith's column in Road and Track November, 2013 issue >> (pg. >> 32). Racing is a calculated risk, make sure the numbers are in your favor >> as much as possible. Enough said. > > Amici... > > I too read that article, and I sure agree it is hard to argue against the > need to wear a HANS (or similar) when racing. Why not increase the odds > against serious injury or death. Why not take every precaution you can? Why > not indeed? It is foolish not to, and articles like the one Sam Smith wrote > in the current issue of ROAD & TRACK will help racers come to that > conclusion. > > But in fact, that HANS device is no cart blanch waiver for avoiding injury. > From what I understand, it would not have prevented serious injury in what > happened at Blackhawk last June. I was not there, but I understand that > the driver's head was struck by the wheel of another race car. I am NOT > speaking against the importance of wearing a head and neck restraint, I am just > not sure it would have been a fix in that Formula Vee race at Blackhawk. But > I understand why it caused Sam Smith to quickly question his own safety > equipment habits. > > Racing is dangerous. Fangio said that he considered he was taking his life > in his hand every time he took to the track. But that was NOT his greatest > fear. He feared causing an incident where another would be injured or > killed. I kind of share that feeling. Sure I don't want to be injured myself, > but I think I would have an even bigger problem having been involved in an > incident I caused, where someone else was injured. I stopped deer hunting > not because I was afraid of getting shot, but because I worried about shooting > someone else by accident (that happens every year here in Wisconsin). > > I think...especially in vintage/historic racing, just as important as the > need for arm restraints, head & neck restraints, seat belts, roll cages, fire > extinguisher, etc., etc., is the need for a good, proper 'Vintage > attitude'. Because of the huge disparity in equipment and talent in our sport's race > grids, there is no room for 10/10ths (or worse 11/10ths) racing. > > Wear a HANS (or similar), but also have a good vintage racing attitude. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhouathome@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 14 15:21:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 286B742F9C for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 15:21:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f47.google.com (mail-qa0-f47.google.com [209.85.216.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E4342F36 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 15:21:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id k15so2591834qaq.6 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 14:20:56 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=Y5pky2PliVyf4FN7y4gLjLAV0u/wB03SLXWDQlqgFV0=; b=JEMY806z1cLK/sBSkrlKO0JF9TJ7ov+7Aaxa34yBME6nvaYbV5nMLKyvcHeRK93OjW u4cywbYNO6iucVvRPp1isgrWX+As9GChD+feU4Mqk2/saeCj17Rfnu3XR5TIMlefZInI wYVRoyLcDqwcG74rSSXxbS1GsCacSO8L1qtuaaRZffhm5YDFkpB0whjef5fHL4TZi4JD YkrTZCRtMEx38sGA0gISbkIcEx2Jsiu+Jg3bsQNcAqbJfp4XzQ001vXYEkvm61htOcfq vY8H3i3AJQQAjGFN5gap7MQaRKLdyvyFlYLqOASGXlxJReDyWBtmg87DGtmH2aanbD3r dzXQ== 5mr25258909qar.73.1381785656309; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 14:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.138.73 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 14:20:16 -0700 (PDT) References: <5e63.756ea1e1.3f8dae96@aol.com> <6778C544-4F21-494D-94F0-43FBF51FDCDD@aol.com> From: Kas Kastner Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 14:20:16 -0700 To: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Hans Device Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Let us not forget that racing is not golf, THIS IS A DANGEROUS HOBBY. Face up to it. After that reflection though, there is nothing better than an inccident free racing day on track. *Never be beaten by equipment.* On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Jhouathome wrote: > Well put both Bill and Ken. Bill, you are correct that a HANS would not > have > saved Bob Hanneman in the incident at Blackhawk. His fatal injuries were > not > neck/spinal in nature. That however in no way suggests that a HANS is not > a > critical piece of safety equipment. I have had several discussions > regarding > the need for or advisability of a proper head restraint system. I am 100% > convinced that it is. Just as all of our fire protection will not protect > us > from blunt force trauma injuries, a HANS will not protect us from injury to > our bodies from forces outside of the HANS influence. All of our safety > devices and components including belts, seats and seat mounting, roll > structure, fire suppression, flame and heat protection, arm restraints, > helmet, and head and neck system, not to mention the army of track safety > personnel, are designed to work in concert to produce an all inclusive > safety > plan. To leave out any single part of that plan is to leave yourself > needlessly exposed. It simply makes no sense. > > Bill, you observations about driving and the vintage spirit are most > accurate > and appreciated. The foundational source of most racing incidents is > driver > error, or at least failure to drive in such a way that the accident was > avoided in the first place. I have investigated countless incidents and > crashes over the years, and the overwhelming majority were the result of > either driver error or one or more drivers failing to drive defensively. > Having a 360 degree field of awareness, driving in a 100% predictable > fashion, > and practicing the vintage motto of "when in doubt, don't" will keep you > out > of most incidents. Yes, there are mechanical failures, and yes there are > those circumstances when we cannot avoid someone else's problem or mistake, > but most incidents are self-inflicted or at least the result of > contributory > negligence. Only relatively rarely are incidents "unavoidable". > > That having been said, we all make mistakes and have lapses in judgement, > and > things break either from poor prep, fatigue, or pushing beyond the limits > of > generally ancient chassis engineering. That's why we have safety systems. > But there can be no argument that the safest incidents are those that never > occur, and the best use for safety equipment is to never have to use it at > all, but for those situations, regardless of cause, when I find myself in > an > incident I want every bit of current safety equipment available working for > me. Every time I replace an out of date set of belts or helmet I say a > prayer > of thanks that I get to retire that item from old age, and I never had to > rely > on it! > > John Houlton > > Sent from my iPad > > On Oct 14, 2013, at 3:31 PM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 10/14/2013 2:51:04 PM Central Daylight Time, > > kknight@klaenv.com writes: > > > > > >> If you still are on the fence regarding the purchase of a HANS, or > >> similar > >> device, read Sam Smith's column in Road and Track November, 2013 issue > >> (pg. > >> 32). Racing is a calculated risk, make sure the numbers are in your > favor > >> as much as possible. Enough said. > > > > Amici... > > > > I too read that article, and I sure agree it is hard to argue against the > > need to wear a HANS (or similar) when racing. Why not increase the odds > > against serious injury or death. Why not take every precaution you can? > Why > > not indeed? It is foolish not to, and articles like the one Sam Smith > wrote > > in the current issue of ROAD & TRACK will help racers come to that > > conclusion. > > > > But in fact, that HANS device is no cart blanch waiver for avoiding > injury. > > From what I understand, it would not have prevented serious injury in > what > > happened at Blackhawk last June. I was not there, but I understand that > > the driver's head was struck by the wheel of another race car. I am NOT > > speaking against the importance of wearing a head and neck restraint, I > am > just > > not sure it would have been a fix in that Formula Vee race at Blackhawk. > But > > I understand why it caused Sam Smith to quickly question his own safety > > equipment habits. > > > > Racing is dangerous. Fangio said that he considered he was taking his > life > > in his hand every time he took to the track. But that was NOT his > greatest > > fear. He feared causing an incident where another would be injured or > > killed. I kind of share that feeling. Sure I don't want to be injured > myself, > > but I think I would have an even bigger problem having been involved in > an > > incident I caused, where someone else was injured. I stopped deer > hunting > > not because I was afraid of getting shot, but because I worried about > shooting > > someone else by accident (that happens every year here in Wisconsin). > > > > I think...especially in vintage/historic racing, just as important as the > > need for arm restraints, head & neck restraints, seat belts, roll cages, > fire > > extinguisher, etc., etc., is the need for a good, proper 'Vintage > > attitude'. Because of the huge disparity in equipment and talent in our > sport's race > > grids, there is no room for 10/10ths (or worse 11/10ths) racing. > > > > Wear a HANS (or similar), but also have a good vintage racing attitude. > > > > Bill Dentinger > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhouathome@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 14 17:39:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035C242F97 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 17:39:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97884041E for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 17:39:43 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=J36cBnCTQePhTO5jjBc+zYLs1zsOyK0rS0SActTU6Qp+4KuaU4aaqkTZv2z5lJQP; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.27] (helo=mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1VVrjY-0002y8-9a for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 19:39:32 -0400 Received: from 108.64.186.7 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 19:39:31 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 16:39:31 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: steve To: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Hans Device Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Watch the 10 second video on this page: http://hansdevice.com/site/index.html -----Original Message----- >From: Kenneth Knight >Sent: Oct 14, 2013 9:57 AM >To: FOT >Subject: [Fot] Hans Device > >Friends: > > > >If you still are on the fence regarding the purchase of a HANS, or similar >device, read Sam Smith's column in Road and Track November, 2013 issue (pg. >32). Racing is a calculated risk, make sure the numbers are in your favor >as much as possible. Enough said. > > > >Ken >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 15 02:20:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FAEA40431 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 02:20:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm23-vm10.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm23-vm10.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC1A4041C for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 02:19:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.163] by nm23.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Oct 2013 17:07:47 -0000 Received: from [98.139.244.53] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Oct 2013 17:07:47 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp115.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Oct 2013 17:07:47 -0000 gjtenOtRshDVOqblMDoGSmS3YpJD40Jh5V2pEIA4U29WEEdokkALGR79wCdX q9bGs0i72VEBMs7cW1B40YaLo121I2Mb10luHnUD8jBKXOxrfGNtbuZpvBhg gpeY3VtbCWV_pWzkDuuyprH5RnGRiLRuHkKNRJ7PxIS_IOVMot8Ut04zzGfq cffytS_VesvHmEkIEJpel.rDnWUt_1RGsFc2uLqThZ0LSMcT3jJLD6sCFHaF 4QCDCkk4UZk3SVh3sbUqA9Ea.MjPlrd7aMJ72Lf3cqCwclBlwT4uezGhyFAv d_Fhzyx4L48SMXEI1WyUcjA3CUIjc8lt6Nuxo2qZPRdJw9RnoRxaiAMgEUac 1t55wMGnQJjPbb44suBunA9tpVaS0YEmwaJ9TLmC5yu2.N7y1Kzn5BptOgJa k.LRnrYiui5wrYxiM1XwxF48TWVxoulT7ycU6CJ7RP8Y8w9.0uMCSWGnTCSj 4m3lhpZxLQm0LU1I1CjAP2gICusgWbMSpLEHCc7mcOnYSy_OQ6QacpslT6Xc Q_qDtJmCTRPu4BDJSqhLh.uK61i2zfv4zoEiHwwARzAKN9LXOyii87jU7rPZ cCCMM82az.3ZS_3HCAqNKLcNyS5STPSJSX15GuT9.oSz8crOuiH1wM9tUNcX UBbvSZyMO8UdJqNFFEGaoupnPvkjIEp6mNPPDUGMriQtY1nh.wH8xAw9GYv_ k.RFwJ9q8A3RFQue9S5ZlJPmYsY0Iqh5WSQ-- smtp115.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Oct 2013 10:07:47 -0700 PDT Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 12:07:49 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0.1 To: Kas Kastner , "FOT@autox.team.net" References: <5774637972230862664@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: From the Waaaay Back Machine ... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Very cool. These cars lead to a hot rodding craze after WWI, similar to the one after WWII. There were more than 100 companies making bodies for Ford and Chevrolet, i.e. kit cars. The available speed equipment was astounding. I have one from 1923. In Bugatti Blue, of course, and I call it my poor man's Bugatti. I hope to have it at next years Kastner Cup. Larry see http://www.mtfctulsa.com/ABC_Bodies On 10/12/2013 4:09 PM, Kas Kastner wrote: > Fantastic footage and sounds. Long, but great stuff. > > *Never be beaten by equipment.* > > * * > > *Supercharged G/P cars from 1924-1939.* > > * * > > * Great pix of Brooklands & many other G/P courses.* > > * * > > *Sound effects added to the early years.* > > * * > > *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCP_GJ8JBOE*** > > * * > > *~ 39 minutes ~* > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel@pobox.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 15 02:56:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1B942F78 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 02:56:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gerard.telenet-ops.be (gerard.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B133040402 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 02:56:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([141.134.4.155]) by gerard.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id dLvy1m0153LgakV0HLw2Ps; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 10:56:02 +0200 From: "Van Mulders Marcel" To: "'John Hasty'" References: <5e63.756ea1e1.3f8dae96@aol.com> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 10:55:58 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac7JHi/kEYQnj9VTSsmPol6uHx2GPQAZY3qw Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Hans Device Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've always had a fire system fitted in my 10 years of racing : in all that time, it happened only once, at Donington this year, that someone of the marchals did check if the retaining pin was removed at the start of a race (it was). Most of the racers don't care about it! Marcel Van Mulders. -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens John Hasty Verzonden: maandag 14 oktober 2013 22:44 Aan: BillDentin@aol.com CC: fot@autox.team.net Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Hans Device Well said Bill. In addition to Hans, I strongly suggest that you have a fire system. Having been on fire I can attest that a hand held unit just doesn't cut it. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2013, at 4:31 PM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/14/2013 2:51:04 PM Central Daylight Time, > kknight@klaenv.com writes: > > >> If you still are on the fence regarding the purchase of a HANS, or >> similar device, read Sam Smith's column in Road and Track November, >> 2013 issue (pg. >> 32). Racing is a calculated risk, make sure the numbers are in your >> favor as much as possible. Enough said. >> > > Amici... > > I too read that article, and I sure agree it is hard to argue against > the need to wear a HANS (or similar) when racing. Why not increase > the odds against serious injury or death. Why not take every precaution you can? Why > not indeed? It is foolish not to, and articles like the one Sam Smith > wrote in the current issue of ROAD & TRACK will help racers come to > that conclusion. > > But in fact, that HANS device is no cart blanch waiver for avoiding injury. > From what I understand, it would not have prevented serious injury in > what happened at Blackhawk last June. I was not there, but I > understand that the driver's head was struck by the wheel of another > race car. I am NOT speaking against the importance of wearing a head > and neck restraint, I am just > not sure it would have been a fix in that Formula Vee race at Blackhawk. But > I understand why it caused Sam Smith to quickly question his own > safety equipment habits. > > Racing is dangerous. Fangio said that he considered he was taking his > life in his hand every time he took to the track. But that was NOT > his greatest fear. He feared causing an incident where another would > be injured or killed. I kind of share that feeling. Sure I don't > want to be injured myself, > but I think I would have an even bigger problem having been involved > in an incident I caused, where someone else was injured. I stopped > deer hunting not because I was afraid of getting shot, but because I > worried about shooting > someone else by accident (that happens every year here in Wisconsin). > > I think...especially in vintage/historic racing, just as important as > the need for arm restraints, head & neck restraints, seat belts, roll > cages, fire > extinguisher, etc., etc., is the need for a good, proper 'Vintage > attitude'. Because of the huge disparity in equipment and talent in > our sport's race > grids, there is no room for 10/10ths (or worse 11/10ths) racing. > > Wear a HANS (or similar), but also have a good vintage racing attitude. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 15 13:14:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C9A40526 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 13:14:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa08-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa08-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.107]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E8F40425 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 13:14:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rocky ([24.255.156.66]) by p3plsmtpa08-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id dXE21m0031SE0Kc01XE36S; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:14:04 -0700 From: "Rocky Entriken" To: "Van Mulders Marcel" , "'John Hasty'" References: <5e63.756ea1e1.3f8dae96@aol.com> <9DAC016FFCE247DEA15873A69A2DF2AC@GebruikerPC> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 14:18:03 -0500 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Hans Device Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net When I work grid, that's an item I often check. I find about half the drivers forget to pull the pin, and for some it is difficult for them to remove when belted in (too tight, bad angle, clumsy with gloves on, etc), nicely illustrating the importance of having it out beforehand. And yes, as a driver I've forgotten too, even with red flags on them. Most are appreciative. Of course, there's a couple who get mad at me. It's part of their "routine," they say, to pull it as they depart the grid (and when I watch, they don't). --Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Van Mulders Marcel" To: "'John Hasty'" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 3:55 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Hans Device > I've always had a fire system fitted in my 10 years of racing : in all > that > time, it happened only once, at Donington this year, that someone of the > marchals did check if the retaining pin was removed at the start of a race > (it was). Most of the racers don't care about it! > Marcel Van Mulders. > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens > John Hasty > Verzonden: maandag 14 oktober 2013 22:44 > Aan: BillDentin@aol.com > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Hans Device > > Well said Bill. In addition to Hans, I strongly suggest that you have a > fire system. Having been on fire I can attest that a hand held unit just > doesn't cut it. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 14, 2013, at 4:31 PM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > >> In a message dated 10/14/2013 2:51:04 PM Central Daylight Time, >> kknight@klaenv.com writes: >> >> >>> If you still are on the fence regarding the purchase of a HANS, or >>> similar device, read Sam Smith's column in Road and Track November, >>> 2013 issue (pg. >>> 32). Racing is a calculated risk, make sure the numbers are in your >>> favor as much as possible. Enough said. >>> >> >> Amici... >> >> I too read that article, and I sure agree it is hard to argue against >> the need to wear a HANS (or similar) when racing. Why not increase >> the odds against serious injury or death. Why not take every precaution > you can? > Why >> not indeed? It is foolish not to, and articles like the one Sam Smith >> wrote in the current issue of ROAD & TRACK will help racers come to >> that conclusion. >> >> But in fact, that HANS device is no cart blanch waiver for avoiding > injury. >> From what I understand, it would not have prevented serious injury in >> what happened at Blackhawk last June. I was not there, but I >> understand that the driver's head was struck by the wheel of another >> race car. I am NOT speaking against the importance of wearing a head >> and neck restraint, I am > just >> not sure it would have been a fix in that Formula Vee race at Blackhawk. > But >> I understand why it caused Sam Smith to quickly question his own >> safety equipment habits. >> >> Racing is dangerous. Fangio said that he considered he was taking his >> life in his hand every time he took to the track. But that was NOT >> his greatest fear. He feared causing an incident where another would >> be injured or killed. I kind of share that feeling. Sure I don't >> want to be injured > myself, >> but I think I would have an even bigger problem having been involved >> in an incident I caused, where someone else was injured. I stopped >> deer hunting not because I was afraid of getting shot, but because I >> worried about > shooting >> someone else by accident (that happens every year here in Wisconsin). >> >> I think...especially in vintage/historic racing, just as important as >> the need for arm restraints, head & neck restraints, seat belts, roll >> cages, > fire >> extinguisher, etc., etc., is the need for a good, proper 'Vintage >> attitude'. Because of the huge disparity in equipment and talent in >> our > sport's race >> grids, there is no room for 10/10ths (or worse 11/10ths) racing. >> >> Wear a HANS (or similar), but also have a good vintage racing attitude. >> >> Bill Dentinger >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rocky@spitfire4.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 16 13:50:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A833F42EEF for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 13:50:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm22-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm22-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.210]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6870B40451 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 13:34:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.55] by nm22.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Oct 2013 19:31:13 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.179] by tm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Oct 2013 19:31:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1090.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Oct 2013 19:31:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 31581 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Oct 2013 19:31:13 -0000 s=s1024; t=1381951873; bh=O02biin9CPgxXEGJrBp0o67kI7UB/FwQSdH7bNMfUAk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fRPaECQ0HP3AphgABXrY3gk9xe1VvY+qkThIDxyw5Ls74Htlg4JXgeBVBQTx0IkHTw9pMTb7fX8PeVsRLJ3xgwsA5MNZ6qtD2HqtZXi0ImLR76/B/VU/96pUJ8QTNgN3JnSCecWBXr2+R5AsIkouUtXD+pv0kfuk7eeOHCT7hss= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JduYFqSfsbfwQ1WEgUAMVxkgJSrQlLRF2a8H3JVwmC6kKkZlmRS7i5L1ZiECq823Id1tOrH39cOlQiYOPBcHCVdqPpWEZ5jXhcJ3AXjZmzjLsVFkLFtFyfxiSG6+ffbOMsdgkvK/c2Hb7LhUvgAImPEBlg5j7K4FgIrhf8b1iBc=; 5jCb86i_8fdT3R.UBJ6c0nANttEvuik.2P7tbqMfXZHN4NQBIv4DMneReQAe nyrnNGvN5ptYOt2m1p1A0uwSFydAImHzlzUeZRNXImJBUW9M5WR0vJvvzGYZ oT3cKtbBlNT8ijQFUA.XNG7E8z8RcDS1Z6Ys6d3_2yFlLdTKm_SbkTe7dPyj u0_r5OcUzXHxM2j0FV49s4kEQZCdNUmM4w_vggr4zqo.5nn83.gzCAXdhIww 8lYd8CFfMSXPLydpRTZqmOCo3ziQLSxndazTI4mXdUHoqmw9XE4JaA9hbgU3 zyBeEcENhjIfsA7atMNKZocAMPnzW0hvNfTNt0Fj45YyHjzRkBtCB6eq6wDP Do7XpQqYCwI_fIfq5j8vOHSCwIBJ6E0OdXC7Gl5p8KEqdBWLDYQIVsgQcnO6 Y3BI1g5h_6Ir65_6NayK9JzbzZV6B5a8UXeSnlXlUFL_efzawFsRXYwKnok8 weo0WTKgwn4J.P4faogp.7dj1scYEzxDhdml01S9d.EEmVnzqEEmG1Y7n2.7 .0yFR3RaDLTu.jJRpkzv2lpTK Received: from [64.196.19.194] by web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 12:31:13 PDT V2F0Y2ggZm9yIGEgS2FzdG5lciBDdXAgMjAxM8KgcmFjZSByZWNhcCBvbiBwZzcgb2YgVHJpdW1waCBXb3JsZCBNYWdhemluZS4gU29tZSBvZiB5b3VyIG5hbWVzIGFyZSBpbiB0aGUgYXJ0aWNsZS4uLgrCoApTaGF3biBGcmFuawpTcGl0ZmlyZSAmIEdUNiBNYWdhemluZS1FZGl0b3IKQ29udGludWVkIExlZ2FjeS1Pd25lcgpGcmllbmRzIG9mIFRyaXVtcGgvTkFTUy9CQ0NJCgEwAQEBAQ-- Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 12:31:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Shawn Frank To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] KCup Coverage in Triumph World Mag Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Watch for a Kastner Cup 2013 race recap on pg7 of Triumph World Magazine. Some of your names are in the article... Shawn Frank Spitfire & GT6 Magazine-Editor Continued Legacy-Owner Friends of Triumph/NASS/BCCI _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 16 14:38:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C82642F08 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 14:38:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m07.mx.aol.com (omr-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4EB840525 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 14:38:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by omr-m07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E856B700354A5; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 16:37:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dtb004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dtb004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.162.205]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 9515AE000087; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 16:37:55 -0400 (EDT) References: <1381951873.28320.YahooMailNeo@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: my71spit13@yahoo.com, FOT@autox.team.net From: Bruce Lapierre Received: from 71.29.168.129 by webmail-m150.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.156) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 16 Oct 2013 16:37:55 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 16:37:55 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1381955875; bh=q00SPA8g3qmbxtG7Ww+Jo6aJ6CCihc+QhGx0bTTAvDY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RYRvLjDl9mRJh5W+fthI/l2j7hYCB93IV5JhyzHZStYwQwP15XfManwqQ97d+HdWO N+Pmto3u4CGAIDs0dJ/hW1Yqip2SDYipAE8eHqb7BIZGeqqhamC+mJBL0+D6IxX9Ir 3c0aEsju3EooSG3Z6LdwaCG1QS6NJDwoErLdmcrI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d525ef923784a Subject: Re: [Fot] KCup Coverage in Triumph World Mag Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Nice article and K-Cup results in Aug/Sept VTR magazine also. -----Original Message----- From: Shawn Frank To: Friends of Triumph Sent: Wed, Oct 16, 2013 3:50 pm Subject: [Fot] KCup Coverage in Triumph World Mag Watch for a Kastner Cup 2013 race recap on pg7 of Triumph World Magazine. Some f your names are in the article... hawn Frank pitfire & GT6 agazine-Editor ontinued Legacy-Owner riends of Triumph/NASS/BCCI ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttr4@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 17 11:54:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D049D42F41 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 11:54:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d09.mx.aol.com (omr-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2616042F27 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 11:54:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by omr-d09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E1A8670158766 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 13:53:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtb004a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtb004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.205]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 6B16DE000086 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 13:53:55 -0400 (EDT) From: SpiwakD@aol.com Full-name: SpiwakD Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 13:53:55 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1382032435; bh=c4zkba2cZCHs5vxkpA/Bfysbp2fcIOwngNqKix9b5pk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=C4OkAGNpKY8Bg6sB2WHBZOppRzxbRghM05aa66uBk2UwhJiq5HdZnynUvUt4dGplx Fs1fKjGZjKvZ7YR/qGD+vnAjCuOwePMNtH0vJ5jJ0gj8i5Qz9svDhRRQ+EwogtzQ5F +3lATPknRHh4EHCiwvlUdo4F7Lp04b6BBH5jmTjk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c5260243320be Subject: [Fot] TR3 rear shock linkage arm bushing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Who can supply a new racing-quality bushing for the TR3 rear lever shock arm? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 17 12:05:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5002242FC7 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 12:05:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm29-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm29-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.189]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BCD342FC3 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 12:04:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.49] by nm29.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2013 18:04:26 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.168] by tm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2013 18:04:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1079.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2013 18:04:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 28598 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Oct 2013 18:04:26 -0000 s=s1024; t=1382033066; bh=6KFMBmGwqTGUJyDtUmu4MIBPAcHeVjYHGY7l2PJaqqg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=inhfw5i/RW1R5F9ERWJzLjlwjguBx/G9tLVIm+vRpaox2Iu2P2D3CqR1LtY4O08yxGOX+ILnUFAa1utjdPCIyscyef/34OtUs9yhVSBY9u3J1gl7ryilHw+Bdsp4hXGQ2oVcDGc4gNDSw9dcBLAKQxLZUIxWzIaudWWh1YwAW/0= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=v1fXsGo3JcVvfvoLoWXctwfxV3TYHYhWpvsTWysgXDgzp7fAavm5sNq2ekQxk/AozEV1wZsJ/0PXvEOPynOSReUfw4x12Vh6xvmjQ+MD5jO8ammuuhmGr7Y02zEBgWFgDeYV9PtGlM9nmTE5FNmyYPumxJL6UUIij6hNBM/nd6M=; uFj42hChp2F5tpu3YLXIfqzfhqZ0vQG8f5brVZ6I38QLil.xeuJ2Y1S1yyVy ZQOZYJCVn30GwT.f3BltLau6DCYueWgGdQttAOQbrTctDOq906vgmnycBxGX JFcHKYpUC_q3nyytcw.lBkzxSStWrTVac.rQI87gt8Xm2Q5iXMFoZY3nlco6 1BBr02DBpFWVHucMlvxvO7Wad3a51jts62sbHDWuENENCY8hL5TGGJsJob.j 7e1gYs8n1bsTxtrgqGFrBkUp1G1b5bfv7sBS667FdvBpMI3bGLLDnrigwVbf M9wvFl5CaJrCHutoUU2uV5_1XTvsLBHZ5Q4db57llY_GAobxgKYPj37K94f6 pZHqDim83tlJ5d2vC_dCeDdMyfLhhcXzqjopm6zqnI0Eacjft5dukBnpq0n_ eZQK304uql1wWJSRKrhqR709PSNfqModSN.ftQJIRHzFp1HttM5ujqDpq0tz Wds.B20k0MhdDtj6zZk74Xv4PUyQSfk5rJ3iFQbMX0kk1lRL4tOXbVKRK4VZ 1mOV1v1MR2ChHr1Uhp8fk4teI32dC.rw- Received: from [64.196.19.194] by web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 11:04:26 PDT SSBhbSBsb29raW5nIGZvciBhIHN0ZWVyaW5nIHJhY2sgZm9yIGEgMTk4MCBUUjguIERvZXMgYW55b25lIGhhdmUgZXhwZXJpZW5jZSB3aXRoIGEgZ29vZCByZXBsYWNlbWVudCByYWNrPwoKVGhhbmsgeW91IGluIGFkdmFuY2UuLi4KClNoYXduIEZyYW5rClNwaXRmaXJlICYgR1Q2IE1hZ2F6aW5lLUVkaXRvcgpDb250aW51ZWQgTGVnYWN5LU93bmVyCkZyaWVuZHMgb2YgVHJpdW1waC9OQVNTL0JDQ0kKCgEwAQEBAQ-- Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 11:04:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Shawn Frank To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] TR8 steering rack Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I am looking for a steering rack for a 1980 TR8. Does anyone have experience with a good replacement rack? Thank you in advance... Shawn Frank Spitfire & GT6 Magazine-Editor Continued Legacy-Owner Friends of Triumph/NASS/BCCI _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 17 12:28:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5D542F76 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 12:28:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02AC942F4B for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 12:27:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.35]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id eCbK1m0050lTkoCABJTSuY; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 18:27:26 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.5] ([67.170.200.248]) by omta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id eJTR1m00P5N3clv8QJTRoG; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 18:27:26 +0000 From: Dave Hogye Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 11:27:25 -0700 To: Friends of Triumph s=q20121106; t=1382034446; bh=Dev/uZMaJd3iuo3UAFWAzxzlmXNpqmiFrh67nRm9ous=; h=Received:Received:From:Content-Type:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To: Mime-Version; b=pPb1Ke7zhFt3Gobd43on+/POD4RHR0r6PLfuR1SMVyr8ts65QBafhpBv0KWdgT+tM 0L+Zmu60s9bWnGPkqIb0p832/VLUNlSCB6RyQ42Oyo/JqksBZF9xI0rFuAckD7pMEh /T1ejmDzqKqcSDZcJKQAudTuq1xtLAFL3D26IkSBc/Dk4nLoQVgfKdPXoABUVCEG2B ix33heGpVduG3Dnhu0uqSxqZIvxroWrV8TNnmg5YaGooBh7p2VI/n+LJ95OafRQupW 83hf7WhUdLkHt64JwQpviOYNakps9aL+NJZDBVuYVl4cZnX8vYFVKdsMjOMCuzMBm/ P71r4RdLZPejg== Subject: [Fot] first timed practice video at Sears Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, I've been learning how to edit and post video to youtube. So here it goes. The rattling sound is the zip tie tether for the camera which is corrected in the race vid. I'm editing the qualifying and race video and will share when I get them dialed in. Still grinning, Dave H. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE_xG8Cq6XM _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 17 12:31:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1729E42FC7 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 12:31:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail168c2.megamailservers.com (mail168c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9CA42F4E for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 12:31:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail168c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r9HIUxBV022627; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:31:04 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: , References: <47a47.707bd54.3f917e32@aol.com> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:30:59 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7LYetIJkT+HIu/QSuCDRO1FuBCNQABQlxg a=05MVMWeTsgcA:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=l1a_YKwZq8wDzaYFNzcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=ZHZmSuA2jz-9vjEy:21 a=z6rEqN6YAtYXOmvA:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 rear shock linkage arm bushing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The guy in Madison WI probably...gee can't remember his name....someone will I am sure. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of SpiwakD@aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 1:54 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] TR3 rear shock linkage arm bushing Who can supply a new racing-quality bushing for the TR3 rear lever shock arm? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 17 12:36:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5272842F76 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 12:36:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com (mx2.netinteraction.com [174.143.201.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6DB403BB for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 12:36:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTP id D9436F7D157; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 11:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ud+3GC7Mhaxy; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 11:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com (75-128-248-175.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com [75.128.248.175]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTPA id A2E15F7D156; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 11:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 13:35:32 -0500 To: "john hasty" ,, From: Peter Caldwell References: <47a47.707bd54.3f917e32@aol.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 rear shock linkage arm bushing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net No he wont.......if you mean for the link. Peter At 01:30 PM 10/17/2013, john hasty wrote: >The guy in Madison WI probably...gee can't remember his name....someone will >I am sure. > > >John H. Hasty >Attorney At Law > >Who can supply a new racing-quality bushing for the TR3 rear lever shock >arm? Peter Caldwell World Wide Auto Parts of Madison 2517 Seiferth Rd. Madison WI USA 53716-3302 US WATS (800) 362-1025 (608) 223-9400 (608) 223-9403 fax www.worldwideimportautoparts.com www.nosimport.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 17 12:47:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B814442FE5 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 12:47:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d04.mx.aol.com (omr-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.201]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C39042F4E for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 12:47:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.196]) by omr-d04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B0AC670047C8C; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:47:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id D9D7EE00013F; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:47:21 -0400 (EDT) References: <47a47.707bd54.3f917e32@aol.com> <20131017183536.D9436F7D157@mx2.netinteraction.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 13:47:07 -0500 To: Peter Caldwell x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1382035642; bh=Ymek61g0kt6KbOggVRttkYxhf+LfrxL/xHH/4AC95GM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=MoHwB66/MrPh8CF2FhMN6gd5H4GQpPk4ijUPkzoFQC5eGlyLA/BP0S0/O7n0BdKmI tMARwOqNlIAKkkhe7l3DdayIxYJ5VXmRU9r79OhAKl5TMWWuDINTzgvpf2W/RR6qpN cIHz6p87PWCkD+nMfRbpa4dra7ml4yDozdnpUZ/c= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c4526030b90ad0 Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 rear shock linkage arm bushing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I used heim joints on the TR4a solid axle Ambro. There is a tapered link that fits the arm available. Sent from my iPad > On Oct 17, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > > No he wont.......if you mean for the link. Peter > > At 01:30 PM 10/17/2013, john hasty wrote: >> The guy in Madison WI probably...gee can't remember his name....someone will >> I am sure. >> >> >> John H. Hasty >> Attorney At Law >> >> Who can supply a new racing-quality bushing for the TR3 rear lever shock >> arm? > > Peter Caldwell > World Wide Auto Parts of Madison > 2517 Seiferth Rd. > Madison WI USA 53716-3302 > US WATS (800) 362-1025 > (608) 223-9400 > (608) 223-9403 fax > > www.worldwideimportautoparts.com > www.nosimport.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 17 13:06:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF9F42FD9 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 13:06:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9559242F41 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 13:06:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.140.106.99] (mobile-166-137-086-190.mycingular.net [166.137.86.190]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.08(7.0.4.27.7) 64bit (built Aug 22 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0MUT00LM5UD6QG80@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 19:05:33 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-10-17_06:2013-10-17,2013-10-17,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1308280000 definitions=main-1310170081 References: <47a47.707bd54.3f917e32@aol.com> From: SCOTT JANZEN Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 15:05:29 -0400 To: john hasty Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 rear shock linkage arm bushing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Peter Caldwell world wide auto parts Sent from my mobile device On Oct 17, 2013, at 2:30 PM, john hasty wrote: > The guy in Madison WI probably...gee can't remember his name....someone will > I am sure. > > > John H. Hasty > Attorney At Law > Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. > 719 East Boulevard > Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 > Tele: (704) 372-5600 > Fax: (704) 372-4601 > E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com > www.gdhs.com > > PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is > intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that > is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. > If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message > and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. > > IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations > regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, > any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) > is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of > (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, > marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter > addressed herein. > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of SpiwakD@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 1:54 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] TR3 rear shock linkage arm bushing > > Who can supply a new racing-quality bushing for the TR3 rear lever shock > arm? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 17 15:32:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5926942FB8 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 15:32:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D698403DA for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 15:30:04 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=YYgAA6moURApzLTPCxlU0FikzojYPGSYz7j/wrYqGWD7vdeurE3oHhKpAgv5nvKh; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.27] (helo=mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1VWv8V-0004BS-5Y for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:29:39 -0400 Received: from 108.64.186.7 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:29:38 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:29:38 -0400 (EDT) From: steve To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Who has a Group 44 car? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Dear Friends, If you own one of the ex Group 44 Triumphs, would you please send me an email? ~Steve _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 17 15:47:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD55542FB7 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 15:47:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail202c2.megamailservers.com (mail202c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4E942F4E for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 15:45:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.228.203.245] (62.sub-174-237-3.myvzw.com [174.237.3.62]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail202c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r9HLjKrv030293 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:45:22 -0400 From: John Hasty Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:45:19 -0400 To: FOT a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ZusladzuJzD/WFio4tDgaw==:17 a=GWDuFvuxAUmtXRL5B60A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=920icpAtmzkA:10 a=l1WPEWQlvIYA:10 a=ZusladzuJzD/WFio4tDgaw==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: [Fot] Rollers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net What is the group's wisdom on roller rockers for a 4 motor.....assume it is not "stock" & has a billit crank, proper rods etc????? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 17 15:57:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 589B042F4E for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 15:57:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ECD842F4E for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 15:57:05 -0600 (MDT) a=Pt2jL6afp71Tegp3rVfu4A==:17 a=e4F3oT5d7OUA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=YGZRHDuByyIA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=_6Fb8II0VsMSjpHrBa4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=Pt2jL6afp71Tegp3rVfu4A==:117 Received: from [75.86.187.21] ([75.86.187.21:54390] helo=HPLaptop) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id FB/1D-05456-91D50625; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 21:56:41 +0000 From: "Steve Yott" To: "'John Hasty'" , "'FOT'" References: Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 16:56:38 -0500 thread-index: AQD5vViJlLsBRBJQMokdBVIK2D8nKJuji6SA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Rollers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net My opinion is that if you have the money and buy the best quality rockers available then it's a good thing. There are some advantages in their use as they do reduce a bit of friction and also take some of the side load off the valve guides if the geometry is less than perfect. The biggest negative to me is that they don't fit under the stock tractor motor valve cover.... I happen to like the stock cover! Steve -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Hasty Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 4:45 PM To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Rollers What is the group's wisdom on roller rockers for a 4 motor.....assume it is not "stock" & has a billit crank, proper rods etc????? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 17 16:52:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5EFD42FAD for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 16:52:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105E9403BB for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 16:52:08 -0600 (MDT) a=Za5Z2h6Gp24lUAOq2dOr4Q==:17 a=zB9c-D_oiokA:10 a=05MVMWeTsgcA:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=34TPtFKVKfQA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=XQBEjfhHAAAA:8 a=XAOvcSAwAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=BU_s0NdhU1cgK0Uf-YQA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=4dw9y76rTpkA:10 a=CPWEcuMfs8MA:10 a=0ORNm4hu7FcA:10 a=6KzOxUvKiFoA:10 a=um0HahrSqIQA:10 a=AW_918MxaUIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=-UQ4BaxT2dUA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=0vUscowIxtUA:10 a=Za5Z2h6Gp24lUAOq2dOr4Q==:117 Received: from [173.88.242.216] ([173.88.242.216:50313] helo=UserTHINK) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 26/4C-05783-FF960625; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 22:51:43 +0000 From: "Jerry Van Vlack" To: "Joe Alexander" , "Peter Caldwell" References: <47a47.707bd54.3f917e32@aol.com><20131017183536.D9436F7D157@mx2.netinteraction.com> <472B3CF0-2C3F-4FEA-9F76-48F53BDC8515@cs.com> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 18:51:50 -0400 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 rear shock linkage arm bushing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe, I was the one who sent you that information and as it turns out that part's taper is too large for the shock arms. It's better suited for tie rod ends, I have 2 paper weights sitting on my desk. JVV -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 2:47 PM To: Peter Caldwell Cc: Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 rear shock linkage arm bushing I used heim joints on the TR4a solid axle Ambro. There is a tapered link that fits the arm available. Sent from my iPad > On Oct 17, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > > No he wont.......if you mean for the link. Peter > > At 01:30 PM 10/17/2013, john hasty wrote: >> The guy in Madison WI probably...gee can't remember his name....someone will >> I am sure. >> >> >> John H. Hasty >> Attorney At Law >> >> Who can supply a new racing-quality bushing for the TR3 rear lever shock >> arm? > > Peter Caldwell > World Wide Auto Parts of Madison > 2517 Seiferth Rd. > Madison WI USA 53716-3302 > US WATS (800) 362-1025 > (608) 223-9400 > (608) 223-9403 fax > > www.worldwideimportautoparts.com > www.nosimport.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv@roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 17 17:31:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D046942F91 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:31:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.70]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F77042F1A for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:28:29 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=NSIP1ihkh44/BClML9YwONKY70lKOeZD2LNrWxhgh8F0mLqjt7Y9j6Qe20HLH5wf; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.32] (helo=elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1VWwz4-0003Fe-AA; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 19:28:02 -0400 Received: from 108.64.186.7 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 19:28:02 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 16:28:02 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: steve To: SpiwakD@aol.com, fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 rear shock linkage arm bushing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Those are a real pain to remove and re-fit, especially on my car where there are some other parts in the way. The tapered shaft really got stuck and wouldn't come out easily. Last time I rebuilt my rear lever shocks, I had a new set of "bushings" made up with heim joints, a shaft, and some small spacers. I believe the heim-joints are each a different size hole so it's a bit of a pain but fairly easy to make up. Also, it's effortless to install or remove. ~Steve -----Original Message----- >From: SpiwakD@aol.com >Sent: Oct 17, 2013 10:53 AM >To: fot@autox.team.net >Subject: [Fot] TR3 rear shock linkage arm bushing > >Who can supply a new racing-quality bushing for the TR3 rear lever shock >arm? >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 18 01:35:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DAB442F6D for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 01:35:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from jacques.telenet-ops.be (jacques.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF1142F13 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 01:35:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([141.134.4.155]) by jacques.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id eXak1m0163LgakV0JXan1i; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 09:34:48 +0200 From: "Van Mulders Marcel" To: "'Dave Hogye'" References: Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 09:34:44 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac7LZqvQ1Yv/ToQRSi6d9ST2fjWg8QAbMajQ Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] first timed practice video at Sears Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You are doing well, also your car seems to be already in good shape. Video quality has improved a lot,when comparing to video's of some years ago. To get a good sound of the engine, i've routed a plastic tube from near the exhaust to the camera : the connection to the camera microphone(in most cases a small hole in the camera casing) shoud be about air tight. PS : Nice blue sky, very contrasting with our typical weather : grey at it's best, frequently raining or damp. Marcel Van Mulders. -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens Dave Hogye Verzonden: donderdag 17 oktober 2013 20:27 Aan: Friends of Triumph Onderwerp: [Fot] first timed practice video at Sears Hello Friends, I've been learning how to edit and post video to youtube. So here it goes. The rattling sound is the zip tie tether for the camera which is corrected in the race vid. I'm editing the qualifying and race video and will share when I get them dialed in. Still grinning, Dave H. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE_xG8Cq6XM _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 18 02:10:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FEFC42FC7 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 02:10:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from jacques.telenet-ops.be (jacques.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F98042F04 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 02:09:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([141.134.4.155]) by jacques.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id eY8q1m01v3LgakV0JY8tiF; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 10:08:53 +0200 From: "Van Mulders Marcel" To: "'Keith Files'" References: <5e63.756ea1e1.3f8dae96@aol.com> <9DAC016FFCE247DEA15873A69A2DF2AC@GebruikerPC> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 10:08:50 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac7Jx0ADxpftRtF/RU2oH1xtr/r1IwCEW0pQ Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Hans Device Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Keith and Rocky, The only time that the marshalls checked the extinguisher pin was in the UK indeed. I'm racing on Europe main land, just only once in the UK. Marcel Van Mulders -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Keith Files [mailto:keithfiles@btinternet.com] Verzonden: dinsdag 15 oktober 2013 17:14 Aan: Van Mulders Marcel CC: John Hasty; fot@autox.team.net Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Hans Device In all my years of racing in the UK they have always checked the extinguisher pin... Sent from my iPad > On 15 Oct 2013, at 09:55, "Van Mulders Marcel" wrote: > > I've always had a fire system fitted in my 10 years of racing : in all > that time, it happened only once, at Donington this year, that someone > of the marchals did check if the retaining pin was removed at the > start of a race (it was). Most of the racers don't care about it! > Marcel Van Mulders. > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] > Namens John Hasty > Verzonden: maandag 14 oktober 2013 22:44 > Aan: BillDentin@aol.com > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Hans Device > > Well said Bill. In addition to Hans, I strongly suggest that you have > a fire system. Having been on fire I can attest that a hand held unit > just doesn't cut it. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 14, 2013, at 4:31 PM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: >> >> In a message dated 10/14/2013 2:51:04 PM Central Daylight Time, >> kknight@klaenv.com writes: >> >> >>> If you still are on the fence regarding the purchase of a HANS, or >>> similar device, read Sam Smith's column in Road and Track November, >>> 2013 issue (pg. >>> 32). Racing is a calculated risk, make sure the numbers are in your >>> favor as much as possible. Enough said. >> >> Amici... >> >> I too read that article, and I sure agree it is hard to argue against >> the need to wear a HANS (or similar) when racing. Why not increase >> the odds against serious injury or death. Why not take every >> precaution > you can? > Why >> not indeed? It is foolish not to, and articles like the one Sam >> Smith wrote in the current issue of ROAD & TRACK will help racers >> come to that conclusion. >> >> But in fact, that HANS device is no cart blanch waiver for avoiding > injury. >> From what I understand, it would not have prevented serious injury in >> what happened at Blackhawk last June. I was not there, but I >> understand that the driver's head was struck by the wheel of another >> race car. I am NOT speaking against the importance of wearing a head >> and neck restraint, I am > just >> not sure it would have been a fix in that Formula Vee race at Blackhawk. > But >> I understand why it caused Sam Smith to quickly question his own >> safety equipment habits. >> >> Racing is dangerous. Fangio said that he considered he was taking >> his life in his hand every time he took to the track. But that was >> NOT his greatest fear. He feared causing an incident where another >> would be injured or killed. I kind of share that feeling. Sure I >> don't want to be injured > myself, >> but I think I would have an even bigger problem having been involved >> in an incident I caused, where someone else was injured. I stopped >> deer hunting not because I was afraid of getting shot, but because I >> worried about > shooting >> someone else by accident (that happens every year here in Wisconsin). >> >> I think...especially in vintage/historic racing, just as important as >> the need for arm restraints, head & neck restraints, seat belts, roll >> cages, > fire >> extinguisher, etc., etc., is the need for a good, proper 'Vintage >> attitude'. Because of the huge disparity in equipment and talent in >> our > sport's race >> grids, there is no room for 10/10ths (or worse 11/10ths) racing. >> >> Wear a HANS (or similar), but also have a good vintage racing attitude. >> >> Bill Dentinger >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel@telenet.b > e _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/keithfiles@btinternet.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 19 15:45:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2FB4302C for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 15:45:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF6842A58 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 15:44:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [67.255.13.17] ([67.255.13.17:49421] helo=Russlaptop) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id CD/03-02506-E2DF2625; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 21:44:15 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 17:44:15 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7NFFsF5y0Y/kvITMSIWpfF3DocAg== Content-Language: en-us Cc: 'carl stenquist' , 'Kerry Wittig' <16ltoy@msn.com> Subject: [Fot] Nomination (s) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I would like to nominate Kerry Wittig and Carl Stenquist for membership into the league of the great unwashed. As of today Kerry is the owner of a former SCCA Spitfire project with the able assistance of Bill Rampe. He was hooked after driving a pace car at the VRG Watkins Glen event last weekend. The fates conspired and we found a very viable candidate a couple of miles away. The Spitfire Squadron has a new member. Kerry's intention is to have the car operational in time to run the driver school at Summit Point in May with VRG. This means he should also then be able to attend the TRIUMPH-MG CHALLENGE at Mosport in June. Carl has a TR-4 former SCCA car that has a local history and hopefully will be done building his house in time to also be able to attend the school at Summit Point. He is probably in the market for some steel fenders. This still has the SCCA fiberglass on it which is legal in Group 70+ in Canada but not really with VRG from my understanding. Carl has been a fixture at Watkins Glen for some time. One step at a time...... Can I get a second on these additions? Russ Moore Spitfire #49 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 19 16:03:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91BB542F36 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 16:03:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f170.google.com (mail-we0-f170.google.com [74.125.82.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E2F40406 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 16:03:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-we0-f170.google.com with SMTP id u57so5139852wes.15 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 15:02:31 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=NUy3vDzygZS80L7+/CiQX8waA291qzU4cBE21OgL+mQ=; b=DV4QnLDYT83NgMlVndA4K2lAzS0lkWZyBvIP4L2YBM79z6PzstKchkl4h/7g3Lqyyv 5abmaWyxvq3J+XXCCjenhS9K1wzc06AY/5BuJywjVWyrH8sZiUb06yQR/XSr8im/0DKd BFl0YoYekx0zdXvdWwNUe9JX1FY/Z+zhPZxO/QQybGBrVdCLHwpAGDprvRKOWLYxP8H1 oxS1iAX3q7u1U7gR4xCFxU8580+jG/CPMqPWuTE0e3BejitMnhb6fOxcAvEHpwDWnQXP KNhXjsNkz3tw/x6iO34TBQfwoeQURWpWaszqXX/9UpLeYPb+3sizPkG6lVhc97fwkZzf 3GyQ== Sat, 19 Oct 2013 15:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home (ip-109-85-27-127.web.vodafone.de. [109.85.27.127]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id dq11sm40239600wid.3.2013.10.19.15.02.30 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 19 Oct 2013 15:02:30 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <002f01cecd14$5b517c70$11f47550$@rr.com> Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 00:02:30 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac7NFFsF5y0Y/kvITMSIWpfF3DocAgAAhh1g Content-Language: de Subject: [Fot] Basic Tuning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, after my woodruf key sheared off a 2nd time in a short follow up I made 3 instead of one. And my modern starter motor failed again....always these wires break. So I took it apart and used the wires of a stock starter motor for making it more rugged. Have a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vaEtn3E-sM Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 19 18:14:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0B24281B for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 18:14:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A45403ED for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 18:09:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [67.255.13.17] ([67.255.13.17:50315] helo=Russlaptop) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id BC/A3-15942-11F13625; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 00:08:49 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 20:08:48 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7NJC258QMSsWsqRqee5x28zbKVvAAA3+TA Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] Nomination (s) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net From: robertten1@aol.com [mailto:robertten1@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 7:38 PM To: spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination (s) I'll second that and welcome Kerry and his Spit to the group. More Spits the better. Cheers, Bob T -----Original Message----- From: Spitfire Racing To: fot Cc: 'carl stenquist' ; 'Kerry Wittig' <16ltoy@msn.com> Sent: Sat, Oct 19, 2013 5:44 pm Subject: [Fot] Nomination (s) I would like to nominate Kerry Wittig and Carl Stenquist for membership into the league of the great unwashed. As of today Kerry is the owner of a former SCCA Spitfire project with the able assistance of Bill Rampe. He was hooked after driving a pace car at the VRG Watkins Glen event last weekend. The fates conspired and we found a very viable candidate a couple of miles away. The Spitfire Squadron has a new member. Kerry's intention is to have the car operational in time to run the driver school at Summit Point in May with VRG. This means he should also then be able to attend the TRIUMPH-MG CHALLENGE at Mosport in June. Carl has a TR-4 former SCCA car that has a local history and hopefully will be done building his house in time to also be able to attend the school at Summit Point. He is probably in the market for some steel fenders. This still has the SCCA fiberglass on it which is legal in Group 70+ in Canada but not really with VRG from my understanding. Carl has been a fixture at Watkins Glen for some time. One step at a time...... Can I get a second on these additions? Russ Moore Spitfire #49 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 19 19:31:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D112B42F71 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 19:31:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB4B4044D for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 19:30:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA5CA0232 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 19:30:18 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 19:30:18 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <002f01cecd14$5b517c70$11f47550$@rr.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination (s) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Spitfire Racing wrote: > I would like to nominate Kerry Wittig and Carl Stenquist for membership into > the league of the great unwashed. > > Done deal. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 20 14:53:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57D640434 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 14:53:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm15-vm6.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm15-vm6.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39C3403EF for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 14:53:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.163] by nm15.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Oct 2013 20:52:30 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.250] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Oct 2013 20:52:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp120.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Oct 2013 20:52:30 -0000 s=s1024; t=1382302350; bh=Ej0ksp1urbuqROR349rJiC93dHt0zaGvlooXUTCrGsc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=P9ORDiNBBjbzMtdOuVBLLeY78ESMAnjWe/oT3pGmHxt8Lk592QBMx2FgEbAGL+jTKo/pjOKOcE7tyO9B7o69/UTJ8IzORHCLDaCib6xUPIOVCnY3QQe05pWddx5LuBdqvtlO1N9lwpeQVoBsm5UlYLWHmfr08uXDtyN+7EyT12A= ZZL0nM_8Jl.OIXEjd0xa75lWjKnCFuykFZks2mBDsNAOZUvl55bOtZcX1P1D A5e_4uOc_f4uAAKfwo_CbXGM_u0erMEntRzkaQIbycc.6wLZmR7VGdRXy8kZ 4q21pDlFCCwG9HYynRWT3r4z.rK7R1UYBp8z3Do9VtnrvDVLaMvT8X6n9I0V 1GnE_drRF.zXTLgtLw66u_P2C_LR9lweHAX0lp6C2lBVisk14KRc2CmlIBL9 HQ8nADoFWJdhggDRr2c0AQvBA6hAOkmISceEAa8yltLkDsZp1_WSFLd0227B gF0KhucRWe_690bMWOUwWNJhWsoz.XMNCnRbFT3Jddmk_5mOeXfYKm1jqsD1 u_6G_tqolnwt4onYsgoaTC7xzpASPrK8aehjaI1b9DdghWLAnIgM6L6SPZF_ qMGEWPZE3htvizxT98pq4jzImPLGGoZdZVbOt_5ksNr8YSQXK0nDzMCITPLJ q0K.dopiw4K.ZXTQKYEZSNXvzQPA4EfT4WMpqW2swlKYLaHBNSI1GJ8qmkSr rXVkbI_st84lUg3HBhUtoUixOCdPZP563HU_DAjq8Y5E- smtp120.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Oct 2013 20:52:29 +0000 UTC From: "Jack Brooks" To: "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <1382033066.28244.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 16:52:26 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac7LY2ePPTfOJowmTFiPheZZwvgYeACi9fYQ Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 steering rack Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Frank, Check the wedge list. There is a standard GM box which, with the TR8's cover is a perfect swap candidate. Jack, away and unable to provide the full data -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Shawn Frank Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:04 AM To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] TR8 steering rack I am looking for a steering rack for a 1980 TR8. Does anyone have experience with a good replacement rack? Thank you in advance... Shawn Frank Spitfire & GT6 Magazine-Editor Continued Legacy-Owner Friends of Triumph/NASS/BCCI _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 20 15:05:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E334E4044B for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:05:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d05.mx.aol.com (omr-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF26403F0 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:00:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.13]) by omr-d05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A131A70000098 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 16:59:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dnd003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dnd003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.182.201]) by mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 6E9FFE000087 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 16:59:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Gt6steve@aol.com Full-name: Gt6steve Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 16:59:24 -0400 (EDT) To: FOT@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1382302764; bh=4NNkkxxYLA85ltYsTRySX29TSvhdMpsABTiddviysoA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wpTzpxLrpEbLMs+uxWNwWtdp0AXKt+uwgF3GYjYyYgr9IDpriRXPig+FGGQS3eREH 8aYP2fllIwCmI25n2CkcWZYDKKWIkel3Ef7S2geTTxM/eD1DA1Dn+QCNNVWm1xq1Bv 1bh5D7QS7maGgvnuR77/pAVB422ghDjNHhzNEUDc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290d5264442c1254 Subject: [Fot] TVR 2500M Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amigos, Does anyone have or have contact with a Griffith or TVR 2500M? I need some details about their front suspnsion and particularly the Lower A-arm relative to our standard bits. I'm looking at the Ferron modified vertical link but he's very secretive. I don't want to spend the fortune for uprated vertical links that I won't be able to adapt to the GT6. Steve _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 20 15:51:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5157340513 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:51:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f173.google.com (mail-ie0-f173.google.com [209.85.223.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E253440406 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:51:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id u16so10396581iet.32 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 14:50:28 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=fzYdJAfhjRmnhW4l2aWf6A/nJkx0Ym2jj2EPf1R93M4=; b=k2EFuYStE+CZ6SYq10iDcglYPDp4ahUklajCSDPSEKiIkVrBLT1jAAjT5mcrxQQCfK LAK3f+MSYqvvLKRDEX5s0g620Z47iVZUmLpXWN3s8Kq4hqUOx07EyyuZYOgIltUzb5Cc wZrICtJFWq6VTDTO7EPzgrDZVxFNepAgtYmVtFjK2meETAIlpmWehNUN8MYW75k08aEW wX2YimaglWpxGSuwF/cdu3CXgxZmBYFzAtnjh5n4ZgWlZrSO64CzRvAUJ5oA2T2EFynd sdP2879jJWnm3nql06KY8SA99IfbVtITV2DYysuqG4AdXT65A7e1dEkCXesbgxcUNtW5 aa3g== Sun, 20 Oct 2013 14:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.43.44.135 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 14:50:27 -0700 (PDT) References: <3403121.1382052482238.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 17:50:27 -0400 From: John Styduhar To: steve Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 rear shock linkage arm bushing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I like the idea of an adjustable rear shock link for the solid axle rear end. I'm finding that the shock lever arm will bottom out before the axle is perched on the frame. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:28 PM, steve wrote: > Those are a real pain to remove and re-fit, especially on my car where > there are some other parts in the way. The tapered shaft really got stuck > and wouldn't come out easily. Last time I rebuilt my rear lever shocks, I > had a new set of "bushings" made up with heim joints, a shaft, and some > small spacers. I believe the heim-joints are each a different size hole so > it's a bit of a pain but fairly easy to make up. Also, it's effortless to > install or remove. > > ~Steve > > -----Original Message----- > >From: SpiwakD@aol.com > >Sent: Oct 17, 2013 10:53 AM > >To: fot@autox.team.net > >Subject: [Fot] TR3 rear shock linkage arm bushing > > > >Who can supply a new racing-quality bushing for the TR3 rear lever shock > >arm? > >_______________________________________________ > >fot@autox.team.net > > > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1@earthlink.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 20 15:57:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7579B43047 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:57:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE93940437 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:56:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.142]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E2F027013C88F for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 17:56:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dnd003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dnd003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.182.201]) by mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id A1AD4E000081; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 17:56:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Gt6steve@aol.com Full-name: Gt6steve Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 17:56:08 -0400 (EDT) To: fubog1@aol.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1382306168; bh=NzAwUSXD9Oqc3VaCiR6qx9zJqcKer/J6oHV4YacMFv4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UYvfT1QcuKU4CTvYqo/7ULBiE+b/5lud3nLFviNv59/kV7RviSVLvAZpu0/djQARa D96CYRVYpjVbGWb5VGuYDYnU5lqN2v/hSpm8mlKbUH24m9r6yNawjlFBTCTq9B08WA yR13mjUU1AJGGc7+SZZmlyBx+30iioN1nsF85QXM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338e526451786a26 Cc: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TVR 2500M Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wow, fantastic response! Thanx guys. I missed my chance at a 2500M cuz money was tight and I regret it. Anyway, the big question is...Is the lower A arm the same dimension as the Triumphs? Frame attachment points and thwarts centerline? Steve Ferron is selling a modified Vertical link to support the 8" slicks they run in their sereis? I want to know how different they are before risking a grand.... In a message dated 10/20/2013 2:15:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, fubog1@aol.com writes: Steve I have a 72 2500 "hybrid" sitting in my garage at home if that helps any ie external measurements (it's all together). Glen -----Original Message----- From: Gt6steve To: FOT Sent: Sun, Oct 20, 2013 5:05 pm Subject: [Fot] TVR 2500M Amigos, Does anyone have or have contact with a Griffith or TVR 2500M? I need some details about their front suspnsion and particularly the Lower A-arm relative to our standard bits. I'm looking at the Ferron modified vertical link but he's very secretive. I don't want to spend the fortune for uprated vertical links that I won't be able to adapt to the GT6. Steve _______________________________________________ _fot@autox.team.net_ (mailto:fot@autox.team.net) _http://www.fot-racing.com_ (http://www.fot-racing.com/) Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 20 16:21:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B89042F71 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 16:21:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f172.google.com (mail-ie0-f172.google.com [209.85.223.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A04B40406 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 16:18:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f172.google.com with SMTP id tp5so10257551ieb.31 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:17:38 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=oDjjl5wfGocRvaI0VBm2NjIJAbXhfh9v0CXnpLXAKmI=; b=ooS3WSwP/6gUbzfPRrivovTUJV+pPaU0XGscrdxw80/m5FDr3TNj9+xmqHVhoeXLpM HmINBmiydyQCubKWmGWBc8XsKNO8BJJ8i32idwO0XXXq2p+V1hQ2/dLYunzDr//SDTWk VVkfryyqE56VoFkMGTyMe/IM6evXLIFstror9mH3WqbKT82GmnkLFSbYd7naS+LMOCAG Z4LtyTc1/ofdwXpXrql2c3wu56yz56X+x29/mL+1BMcZ7Ny26XyZJR25MDDSZmcjSGfA zTs+zFI7zJRtpbZAq8j9ncmX19UlehRao1ayjNDVfnWgV8UPKpU82YkFFZq2XxVTD9Gk V1lg== yt5mr8575916icb.0.1382307458214; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.43.44.135 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:17:38 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 18:17:38 -0400 From: John Styduhar To: John Hasty Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Rollers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have a set of Harland Sharp roller tip rockers with bronze bushings on the rocker pivot. They have worked well so far below 6K rpm with a high lift cam. Ratio is 1.5:1. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:45 PM, John Hasty wrote: > What is the group's wisdom on roller rockers for a 4 motor.....assume it is > not "stock" & has a billit crank, proper rods etc????? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 20 18:53:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096E740437 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 18:53:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0705E403F4 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 18:49:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from new-host-2.home (pool-108-2-197-133.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [108.2.197.133]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.08(7.0.4.27.7) 64bit (built Aug 22 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0MUZ00DA4U9G7S40@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 00:48:54 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-10-20_02:2013-10-18,2013-10-20,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1308280000 definitions=main-1310200155 From: Scott Janzen Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 20:48:50 -0400 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] TR4 manifold gaskets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Is there a supplier for a better-than-stock manifold gasket - just pulled things apart to get at a couple of exhaust gas sensors, and the stock gasket disintegrated into multiple pieces/layers. On the GT6 I use these incredibly durable, re-usable gaskets I get from PRI, but he only has Spit/GT6 stuff. Suggestions? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 20 20:25:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8EF40406 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 20:25:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1BE0403F0 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 20:24:50 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=3GS1J1x9VI0T0C7iKcct5w==:17 a=0TbXety4v90A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=YGZRHDuByyIA:10 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=A8Yl-m2itglElmHnCQIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=3GS1J1x9VI0T0C7iKcct5w==:117 Received: from [72.183.110.163] ([72.183.110.163:50511] helo=[192.168.2.4]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 45/C8-13545-A4094625; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 02:24:10 +0000 References: From: Bob Kramer Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 21:23:51 -0500 To: John Hasty Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Rollers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The word? Illegal! At least where I race. Bob Kramer Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 17, 2013, at 4:45 PM, John Hasty wrote: > > What is the group's wisdom on roller rockers for a 4 motor.....assume it is > not "stock" & has a billit crank, proper rods etc????? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 20 22:01:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 583F4403F4 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 22:01:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1D4403E8 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 22:01:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.17.140]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MV0007GM350EG70@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 23:00:38 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Bob Kramer" , "John Hasty" References: Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 00:00:36 -0400 Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Rollers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Legal in SVRA. Also VSCDA. Makes sense to use them. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Kramer" To: "John Hasty" Cc: "FOT" Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Rollers > The word? Illegal! At least where I race. > > Bob Kramer > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 17, 2013, at 4:45 PM, John Hasty wrote: >> >> What is the group's wisdom on roller rockers for a 4 motor.....assume it >> is >> not "stock" & has a billit crank, proper rods etc????? >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 21 00:00:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7719403BB for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 00:00:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dfn.com (mail.dfn.com [74.116.128.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B822403ED for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 23:50:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] [216.223.232.123] by dfn.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-12.3.0.100) id 702000071a838d40; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 23:49:31 -0600 Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 23:49:35 -0600 From: Michael Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: John Hasty References: Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Rollers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 10/17/2013 3:45 PM, John Hasty wrote: > What is the group's wisdom on roller rockers for a 4 motor.....assume it is > not "stock" & has a billit crank, proper rods etc????? > I suppose it depends primarily on two things--what the roller rocker weighs compared to stock, and the intended maximum rpm. There's probably a marginal increase in valve guide life--if they're set up properly--pushrod length/pedestal height is just as important as with stock rockers. The roller rockers I've seen, although from 6061-T6 aluminum billet, actually weigh _more_ than the stock rocker, so the advantages of reduced friction are offset by the need for somewhat stronger valve springs to maintain the same point of valve float, and that latter disadvantage increases with the square of the rpm. That said, virtually all makes are CNC machined today, so there's a uniformity to them that isn't present in the stock rockers. One can go through dozens of stock rockers to get a set that has a uniform ratio and weight. And, beam strength counts as the rpm goes up, and modern roller rockers are superior in that regard. If you're redlining the engine at or near 6000, I doubt you gain anything by using roller rockers over a well-prepared set of stock rockers, but, if you're aiming for stratospheric rpm, roller rockers are probably a necessity, since stiffer valve springs are usually required to reach those higher revs, anyway. Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 21 06:28:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76CB243146 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 06:28:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s31.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s31.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.106]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C37F843137 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 06:28:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU180-W37 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s31.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 21 Oct 2013 05:27:29 -0700 From: Chuck WATSON To: Scott Janzen , FOT List Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 08:27:28 -0400 References: <21F7BCF6-F237-49B0-A6C7-90A791E1266B@me.com> FILETIME=[E863C6A0:01CECE58] Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 manifold gaskets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Scott - Check out Remflex. Nice thick gasket. Thanks, Chuck Watson Mellow Mushroom Pizza Bakers Columbia, Greenville, Spartanburg & Lexington, SC > From: sjanzen@me.com > Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 20:48:50 -0400 > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] TR4 manifold gaskets > > Is there a supplier for a better-than-stock manifold gasket - just pulled > things apart to get at a couple of exhaust gas sensors, and the stock gasket > disintegrated into multiple pieces/layers. > On the GT6 I use these incredibly durable, re-usable gaskets I get from PRI, > but he only has Spit/GT6 stuff. > > Suggestions? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/clw2000@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 21 07:26:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834B94315D for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 07:26:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qproxy1-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (qproxy1-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [173.254.64.10]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1627F4313C for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 07:26:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 23592 invoked by uid 0); 21 Oct 2013 13:25:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO just64.justhost.com) (173.254.28.64) by qproxy1.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 21 Oct 2013 13:25:42 -0000 Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=62392 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VYFUL-0007MT-RA for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 07:25:41 -0600 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 08:25:39 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: [Fot] In-car video from Blackhawk Farms Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 21 07:35:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C8A43181 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 07:35:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-ss-1194.bluehost.com (outbound-ss-1194.bluehost.com [74.220.211.4]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4535F4313C for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 07:35:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 3452 invoked by uid 0); 21 Oct 2013 13:34:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO just64.justhost.com) (173.254.28.64) by oproxy1.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 21 Oct 2013 13:34:46 -0000 Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=62553 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VYFd8-0000IB-3h for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 07:34:46 -0600 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 08:34:43 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: [Fot] In-car video from Blackhawk Farms Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Dang it! I think I've turned off all formatting in my e-mail program this time. Video from Blackhawk Farms on Saturday - was fun until the tranny broke halfway through http://youtu.be/8eaAUnJhm5U Cheers, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 21 08:26:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 884E54318D for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 08:26:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f171.google.com (mail-ie0-f171.google.com [209.85.223.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B1143148 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 08:26:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f171.google.com with SMTP id tp5so11386254ieb.2 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 07:25:46 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=FtOx45wfAD57hlH85CSBE0BubPmtYA8CHV5rix44TLA=; b=max2DIbD7Y7HCkhqqJahEdzD/mWh0JG2Z1RDaZa2r70gXAzhKZkPa5/zuECU80yJMj BhsTR68xPRtakHk3R9Akre013wbbLDHZjKjeBqIf6KsWUwHWmQB+HC6pwuo77yHm0ClM lKUMB6i+6CjBo5WkjEi0ycHtWglIbuu3DRTbpxZRX/8vzC0mNnFK1t7zA0uzz98WJ+zi Um/SAk3dc79vgosHRfrgjjTv2fWJuRMI5IQWIB6qXaKh1UeePOsQ6A/vvSBQTIeKigZQ 7ti3DLFuf4nu3lczCgCMTCQ8h3dXI8y2HLMU/0U3a2oARtfDzvtNpK2aWXeQ6nsp8NA4 jlFQ== p9mr9462771igr.45.1382365543302; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 07:25:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.43.44.135 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 07:25:43 -0700 (PDT) References: <21F7BCF6-F237-49B0-A6C7-90A791E1266B@me.com> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:25:43 -0400 From: John Styduhar To: Chuck WATSON Cc: FOT List Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 manifold gaskets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Scott, what cylinder head are you running? On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Chuck WATSON wrote: > Scott - > > Check out Remflex. Nice thick gasket. > > Thanks, > > Chuck Watson > > > Mellow Mushroom Pizza Bakers > > Columbia, Greenville, Spartanburg & Lexington, SC > > > > > > > > > > From: sjanzen@me.com > > Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 20:48:50 -0400 > > To: fot@autox.team.net > > Subject: [Fot] TR4 manifold gaskets > > > > Is there a supplier for a better-than-stock manifold gasket - just > pulled > > things apart to get at a couple of exhaust gas sensors, and the stock > gasket > > disintegrated into multiple pieces/layers. > > On the GT6 I use these incredibly durable, re-usable gaskets I get from > PRI, > > but he only has Spit/GT6 stuff. > > > > Suggestions? > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/clw2000@msn.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 21 09:12:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92AB143131 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 09:12:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-ss-330.hostmonster.com (outbound-ss-330.hostmonster.com [74.220.205.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C178742820 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 09:06:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 27199 invoked by uid 0); 21 Oct 2013 01:39:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO just64.justhost.com) (173.254.28.64) by oproxy12.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 21 Oct 2013 01:39:03 -0000 Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=59699 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VY4SU-0007a0-Nu; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 19:39:03 -0600 Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 20:38:54 -0500 To: Scott Janzen , 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph From: Tony Drews References: <21F7BCF6-F237-49B0-A6C7-90A791E1266B@me.com> {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 manifold gaskets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net There's a compressible graphite gasket at www.remflex.com (their site seems to be down at the moment). They are not what I'd call "reusable" through. Tony Drews At 07:48 PM 10/20/2013, Scott Janzen wrote: >Is there a supplier for a better-than-stock manifold gasket - just pulled >things apart to get at a couple of exhaust gas sensors, and the stock gasket >disintegrated into multiple pieces/layers. >On the GT6 I use these incredibly durable, re-usable gaskets I get from PRI, >but he only has Spit/GT6 stuff. > >Suggestions? >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 21 10:40:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B70F6430C4 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:40:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mercury.fastbytes.com (mercury.fastbytes.com [216.183.230.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461734309A for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:40:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from TimDellVostro [192.200.136.236] by mercury.fastbytes.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.00) id A8AA219008C; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:39:06 -0500 From: "Tim Murphy" To: "'Scott Janzen'" , "''Friends of Triumph' Triumph'" References: <21F7BCF6-F237-49B0-A6C7-90A791E1266B@me.com> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:39:01 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac7N99qxrOWOWQ0TRUqI5aBbmCbXMwAg/Xlw Content-Language: en-us Organization: FastBytesWireless Inc. Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 manifold gaskets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We've been using RemFlex for about 6 years, no problem, they work well with headers that are not exactly flat. Tony Drews used to stock and sell them. Tim -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Scott Janzen Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:49 PM To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] TR4 manifold gaskets Is there a supplier for a better-than-stock manifold gasket - just pulled things apart to get at a couple of exhaust gas sensors, and the stock gasket disintegrated into multiple pieces/layers. On the GT6 I use these incredibly durable, re-usable gaskets I get from PRI, but he only has Spit/GT6 stuff. Suggestions? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph@fastbytes.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 21 10:47:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DB544309F for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:47:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa07-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa07-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B490B43053 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:46:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from munsonbPC ([24.114.40.136]) by p3plsmtpa07-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id fsm61m0062wFiDk01smARa; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 09:46:14 -0700 From: "Barry Munson" To: "'Scott Janzen'" , "''Friends of Triumph' Triumph'" References: <21F7BCF6-F237-49B0-A6C7-90A791E1266B@me.com> <20131021151225.D11B943131@autox.team.net> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:46:10 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac7OcAJE9/OJnqZfQPOgbOcPm/3fWAACcuSg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 manifold gaskets - Update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Scott - I use these gaskets on my Volvo P1800 race car, the TR3 and most recently on the 1980 460 Ford motor in my tow vehicle where they solved a whole bunch of "old" vehicle issues. So, as an initial use gasket, they are an excellent product. WRT to the reuse issue, I have not had to try that, yet. I did, however, speak to their technical people and asked that specific question and the answer was that they do not market their gaskets as reusable because they have a tendency to split in half when you remove the manifolds, especially the exhaust. If you can remove the manifolds and leave the gasket intact then they are reusable. Hmmmmmm - I guess that I agree with Tony and would consider them as a one time use only and if you are successful in removing the manifolds and leaving the gasket intact then it's a bonus. Since they are expensive I guess it's a case of deciding what your priority is - a gasket that seals exceptionally well or one that can be reused. Ideally you would like both but with these gaskets it's a case of - you pays your money and takes your chances. Barry. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tony Drews Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:39 PM To: Scott Janzen; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 manifold gaskets There's a compressible graphite gasket at www.remflex.com (their site seems to be down at the moment). They are not what I'd call "reusable" through. Tony Drews At 07:48 PM 10/20/2013, Scott Janzen wrote: >Is there a supplier for a better-than-stock manifold gasket - just >pulled things apart to get at a couple of exhaust gas sensors, and the >stock gasket disintegrated into multiple pieces/layers. >On the GT6 I use these incredibly durable, re-usable gaskets I get from >PRI, but he only has Spit/GT6 stuff. > >Suggestions? >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/barry@penybryn.ca _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 21 10:55:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BEC443096 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:55:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d04.mx.aol.com (omr-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.201]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4BC443053 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:53:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by omr-d04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 5DBE070047CAB; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 12:52:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dna005a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dna005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.210.209]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 2765EE00008E; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 12:52:20 -0400 (EDT) References: <21F7BCF6-F237-49B0-A6C7-90A791E1266B@me.com> <000e01cece7c$0d23a730$276af590$@com> To: timmurph@fastbytes.com, sjanzen@me.com, fot@autox.team.net From: gt6steve@aol.com Received: from 24.120.231.10 by webmail-vm016.sysops.aol.com (64.12.255.132) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 21 Oct 2013 12:52:20 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 12:52:20 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1382374340; bh=mcfJJz+5S093Yu2aogfJfSRUvWWOJ/nxE/lo2/r3k/g=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jgZkbzLUIej2ApzJb7J+GXsncjZ7J15IXghQivhbt8nys0ED1zVMUEdDqoBt2KL6S BC2a7Vz/O8QvLpaQA05dlFlLVqUsx8Z+B6JLhlCU07zcEOx5IYrPHnpWgVYLOpBsKo uY4qpQ/8cYlNI9J/bpG7sKD7aCoozByR/23oVP24= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c52655bc42ce2 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 manifold gaskets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I wrap my RemFlex in aluminum foil and upholstery adhesive when new and then reuse them many times. A fresh layer of foil can be exposed fairly eassily when required. -----Original Message----- From: Tim Murphy To: 'Scott Janzen' ; ''Friends of Triumph' Triumph' Sent: Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:39 am Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 manifold gaskets We've been using RemFlex for about 6 years, no problem, they work well with headers that are not exactly flat. Tony Drews used to stock and sell them. Tim -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Scott Janzen Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:49 PM To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] TR4 manifold gaskets Is there a supplier for a better-than-stock manifold gasket - just pulled things apart to get at a couple of exhaust gas sensors, and the stock gasket disintegrated into multiple pieces/layers. On the GT6 I use these incredibly durable, re-usable gaskets I get from PRI, but he only has Spit/GT6 stuff. Suggestions? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph@fastbytes.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 21 11:03:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3244A430C4 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:03:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.159]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4153A43055 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:02:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Charly (unknown [97.126.77.192]) (Authenticated sender: charly@mitchelplumbing.com) by smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 307165D8081; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 12:02:12 -0500 (CDT) From: "Charly Mitchel" To: "Barry Munson" , "'Scott Janzen'" , "''Friends of Triumph' Triumph'" References: <21F7BCF6-F237-49B0-A6C7-90A791E1266B@me.com><20131021151225.D11B943131@autox.team.net> <000001cece7d$102b4c70$3081e550$@ca> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:02:11 -0700 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 manifold gaskets - Update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I use the HP gasket from Moss on my TR6 and don't consider it reusable, but I have used one several times until you can't anymore, which can be once or 3 or 4 times. I've never had one separate, they usually tear at an exhaust port. I buy them six or so at a time and only reuse if in good condition. It's not worth trying to reuse an old gasket that's questionable and have a vacuum leak. Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Munson" To: "'Scott Janzen'" ; "''Friends of Triumph' Triumph'" Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 manifold gaskets - Update > Hi Scott - I use these gaskets on my Volvo P1800 race car, the TR3 and > most > recently on the 1980 460 Ford motor in my tow vehicle where they solved a > whole bunch of "old" vehicle issues. So, as an initial use gasket, they > are > an excellent product. WRT to the reuse issue, I have not had to try that, > yet. I did, however, speak to their technical people and asked that > specific > question and the answer was that they do not market their gaskets as > reusable because they have a tendency to split in half when you remove the > manifolds, especially the exhaust. If you can remove the manifolds and > leave > the gasket intact then they are reusable. Hmmmmmm - I guess that I agree > with Tony and would consider them as a one time use only and if you are > successful in removing the manifolds and leaving the gasket intact then > it's > a bonus. Since they are expensive I guess it's a case of deciding what > your > priority is - a gasket that seals exceptionally well or one that can be > reused. Ideally you would like both but with these gaskets it's a case > of - > you pays your money and takes your chances. > Barry. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Tony Drews > Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:39 PM > To: Scott Janzen; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 manifold gaskets > > There's a compressible graphite gasket at www.remflex.com (their site > seems > to be down at the moment). They are not what I'd call "reusable" through. > > Tony Drews > > At 07:48 PM 10/20/2013, Scott Janzen wrote: >>Is there a supplier for a better-than-stock manifold gasket - just >>pulled things apart to get at a couple of exhaust gas sensors, and the >>stock gasket disintegrated into multiple pieces/layers. >>On the GT6 I use these incredibly durable, re-usable gaskets I get from >>PRI, but he only has Spit/GT6 stuff. >> >>Suggestions? >>_______________________________________________ >>fot@autox.team.net >> >>http://www.fot-racing.com >> >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/barry@penybryn.ca > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 21 15:04:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996C240528 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 15:04:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DA14051D for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 14:57:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.170] by nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Oct 2013 20:56:51 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.248] by tm16.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Oct 2013 20:56:51 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1057.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Oct 2013 20:56:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 81729 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Oct 2013 20:56:50 -0000 s=s1024; t=1382389010; bh=3RKtEUdwVbyJAd7sWQUCc9u1LMd++hJlsU66Q4v7BrM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WS6dTs02bHSg5Ga2T+oFNU7xoJctci9uNnHT6SEA9XTxDbsLTkbBhsZTJDv/2Qd4NquyBI+4PkjwRkaO5R+x5AXumVIPMd33ZaaB3rQntDIu5zZ8tcakRQ0yDeP6tYa6RVDQjCbS3dq2wX7XSE4zgYVEFoDfUh5lsjtqH/6WSEY= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hE0f60Z04MFMJfRdncFPqxEuMXIHgwxu17kG/hdhQfUoOvr3YOCZqLQB5OIpuQb/XddxgBdmFhNwsG3AgnPeF+CRc1ojMFN9QfPE+fxadAJESsIKJO0gxQf/pMHV8wYVLIksCN6Qs94hdGseY6jz/I7IFKCLRQ6yPe1EgOkMfgM=; 8MyXtMCu.LRNMVG3zpN5VCg70PgEIMKvZkc2Bpnx7V38mVPRB13GeD4EMqn4 rfqMTYGm9zQYADv7s7gkm6gKOk2crmoKp4iT.b.Cb6VdewLT90zKGRruUllt XbXD8mEYW.We0eSKaO3chHVzNQPvZgtIJO9qjB5b2T13ICt4jfdASTtZWLlG UmVgaQKlp5jjizItn1AgbFyXtEgFXagezKGIu0p9i6q9R3bgEtqeUI_yxmwL 5bNbBPAsGVn64.uNWrRzRGPaVlWAnBeJvYezt4WObVj6R5BezWhg_Ot2XHVK VyN6c1CYNFod7dDXq2LaAakGReAZGS5.PSFnGumS2VNspAOiaX7flkf18l5e XhBmpXj97rkscmU2vpaF7azIaZNYLtiMHcb4_OV.SLCuWYlOXFEzPmlUgYjt 4MfehaDx7q2SZ2y7RCMwRRz2kDAfHq4oQ9vaYv6My.jdjS.S2BnOkz682OIa yCx7kq9K2RiRbs9f6o21dzdGAf_4izBHTKBulGCcSXR33x8jRgt9TJedNMir 7fscyo_889AtH42HyVbF4_nOqooVJMC5gTZiMG6.JUyMndqOoeg9SNTDtoDK Tg0nSjivcBaje8ATNO3Zjd2eUm4yKQNPtq4_hQkSMIfwnEEgcvywjhsk8LbY 9K5jLn3xU53wQjWuQ9PvEfg-- Received: from [172.242.183.210] by web162503.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 13:56:50 PDT SSBmb3VuZCBhIEZlbC1Qcm8gcHJvZHVjdCBjYWxsZWQgwqBQcm8tUmFtaWMgMTAxIGl0J3MgYSBoaWdoIHRlbXAuIGZhY2luZyB3aXRoIGEgcGVyZm9yYXRlZCBzdGVlbCBjb3JlIGFib3V0IDEvMTYgdGhpY2sgYW5kIGNvbWVzIGluIGEKMTInJ3gyOCAxLzInJyBzaGVldCAoYSBsaWZlIHRpbWUgc3VwcGx5KSAuIFdpdGggdGhlIHN0ZWVsIGNvcmUgaXQgaXMgYSBsaXR0bGUgZGlmZmljdWx0IHRvIGN1dCBvdXQsIGJ1dCB3aWxsIGxhc3QgYSBsb25nIHRpbWUgSSBzbWVhciBvbiBhbnRpIHNlaXppbmcKY29tcG8BMAEBAQE- References: <21F7BCF6-F237-49B0-A6C7-90A791E1266B@me.com><20131021151225.D11B943131@autox.team.net> <000001cece7d$102b4c70$3081e550$@ca> <5902ABEC840C47BB931CFF72B409CC35@Charly> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 13:56:50 -0700 (PDT) From: John Wagner To: Charly Mitchel , Barry Munson , 'Scott Janzen' , ''Friends of Triumph' Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 manifold gaskets - Update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I found a Fel-Pro product called Pro-Ramic 101 it's a high temp. facing with a perforated steel core about 1/16 thick and comes in a 12''x28 1/2'' sheet (a life time supply) . With the steel core it is a little difficult to cut out, but will last a long time I smear on anti seizing compound and never have a problem reusing them The best part is it cost $7.99 At your local NAPA store. John Wagner Just the wrench On Monday, October 21, 2013 12:02 PM, Charly Mitchel wrote: I use the HP gasket from Moss on my TR6 and don't consider it reusable, but I have used one several times until you can't anymore, which can be once or 3 or 4 times. I've never had one separate, they usually tear at an exhaust port. I buy them six or so at a time and only reuse if in good condition. It's not worth trying to reuse an old gasket that's questionable and have a vacuum leak. Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Munson" To: "'Scott Janzen'" ; "''Friends of Triumph' Triumph'" Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 manifold gaskets - Update > Hi Scott - I use these gaskets on my Volvo P1800 race car, the TR3 and > most > recently on the 1980 460 Ford motor in my tow vehicle where they solved a > whole bunch of "old" vehicle issues. So, as an initial use gasket, they > are > an excellent product. WRT to the reuse issue, I have not had to try that, > yet. I did, however, speak to their technical people and asked that > specific > question and the answer was that they do not market their gaskets as > reusable because they have a tendency to split in half when you remove the > manifolds, especially the exhaust. If you can remove the manifolds and > leave > the gasket intact then they are reusable. Hmmmmmm - I guess that I agree > with Tony and would consider them as a one time use only and if you are > successful in removing the manifolds and leaving the gasket intact then > it's > a bonus. Since they are expensive I guess it's a case of deciding what > your > priority is - a gasket that seals exceptionally well or one that can be > reused. Ideally you would like both but with these gaskets it's a case > of - > you pays your money and takes your chances. > Barry. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Tony Drews > Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:39 PM > To: Scott Janzen; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 manifold gaskets > > There's a compressible graphite gasket at www.remflex.com (their site > seems > to be down at the moment). They are not what I'd call "reusable" through. > > Tony Drews > > At 07:48 PM 10/20/2013, Scott Janzen wrote: >>Is there a supplier for a better-than-stock manifold gasket - just >>pulled things apart to get at a couple of exhaust gas sensors, and the >>stock gasket disintegrated into multiple pieces/layers. >>On the GT6 I use these incredibly durable, re-usable gaskets I get from >>PRI, but he only has Spit/GT6 stuff. >> >>Suggestions? >>_______________________________________________ >>fot@autox.team.net >> >>http://www.fot-racing.com >> >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/barry@penybryn.ca > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/j.wags63@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 21 19:27:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F87B4054A for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 19:27:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm23-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm23-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.153]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1066340531 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 19:27:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.178] by nm23.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Oct 2013 01:26:56 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.245] by tm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Oct 2013 01:26:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1059.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Oct 2013 01:26:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 50674 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Oct 2013 01:26:56 -0000 s=s1024; t=1382405216; bh=EpPCWpoMPLaDmx8HV05hb8ns6Hrj8cpDKusG9Td9sd4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pSaYrEnqVOFTZmldmMGba0SeeT2A8eU4FQ8EuoxR3vuIVYz9FrWQ/f8AE1ArNPoPhmHieW5+qpMnQ/AW/AHPd/6yPYvkt+oVv7KwFQMmazBDBzPqjrfH9MiRzs7Nj7GIMPPk4fGinKyRt7COV/Lq3lVAk33eTNrBGt1/9daA2n0= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4WXKRsOoAVzFwyiRX1kjdVX3BnbyqOE/tggBvoQ7YwKKP4DMg3dlWxnoNrvhaPrf7emiNmhSpZEkWjWKorcmphlj5aCCXF7EF6COmx/9sw77elx0IdllAFPcRtGgJEXbnHXb05tuJ/A5lcP3+dLWPB3FrfkUJCIDAwOeCQanj3Y=; uabZlCPc9zCICar8BClLb7bRbpNLPsMi2dhTqU56Ldf5_Y10tSsguqJD07_v i63_kdPr9LEmviJlSeo3rUX2teZynVfJB_lsGt8gaao7Wu3UcsKcSqy_F_xZ n6JPSpfCkLczUg6c3DVN0n78Rn9TeUmp47uMWw4zTgYiit0rtwqDqhIaKihp tT33_lJ.N8xgwOB1rOBCTJ3GaHrzFmiIqr.rn5323VnWVP9jgCPmXol6ptVZ ok8XJzDAHM9AaIZXUlYX1LSiKl70HMhl2tSIZ4mGPPg4xjr5noXQotrbMuLy ScePhYnr6upl79QccSSyl_MBP4vjKw339aBBk1.Qomt5Y1aG3LNd_.utfWSg bWuBBQgtKxRV9Sp.qeTS2GNWj6_bW1Xs3nHjLImHuwasd5F7YmpBLIuAmSqf QKinLu7pILLprVjgUQXTWHQrr16OmlrIw9Rf6XZ.B28W_DP_j7zi0y5hMoxo _XUTFCtqCPdSOiFTEPk17TAP82STlM7UkALrw79EuOda91UHyAKNFCuETHou JfJU81Ihx8e5uPG8D_MI0lvsRdYYnycHG9XJU Received: from [75.167.64.51] by web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:26:56 PDT SSBhbSB3YW50aW5nIHRvIHJlcGxhY2UgbXkgNzEgU3BpdGZpcmUgTUtJViBicmFrZSBtYXN0ZXIgY3lsaW5kZXIuIE1vc3Mgb2ZmZXJzIGEgcmVtYW4gZm9yICQxMDAgYW5kIGEgc3RvY2sgcmVwbGFjZW1lbnQgZm9yICQyMDAuIAoKTXkgcXVlc3Rpb25zLi4uIFdoYXQgaXMgdGhlIGRpZmZlcmVuY2UgYmV0d2VlbiB0aGUgdHdvPyBJcyBpdCB3b3J0aCB0aGUgJDEwMCBkaWZmZXJlbmNlPyBJcyB0aGVyZSBhIGJldHRlciBCTUMgb3V0IHRoZXJlIGZvciBhIGNvbXBhcmlibGUgcHJpY2U_IFdpbGwgYW55IG9mIHQBMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:26:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Shawn Frank To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Spitfire BMC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I am wanting to replace my 71 Spitfire MKIV brake master cylinder. Moss offers a reman for $100 and a stock replacement for $200. My questions... What is the difference between the two? Is it worth the $100 difference? Is there a better BMC out there for a comparible price? Will any of them be affected too much if I auto cross it? I have rebuilt my original BMC twice now and would rather replace...recommendations? Something between a race set up and stock for a daily driver... Shawn Frank Spitfire & GT6 Magazine-Editor Continued Legacy-Owner Friends of Triumph/NASS/BCCI _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 22 08:10:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FFE840525 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 08:10:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.159]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFCBC4044A for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 08:06:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Charly (unknown [97.126.77.192]) (Authenticated sender: charly@mitchelplumbing.com) by smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 763EF5D8069; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 09:05:38 -0500 (CDT) From: "Charly Mitchel" To: "Shawn Frank" , "Friends of Triumph" References: <1382405216.49896.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 07:05:36 -0700 Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire BMC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Have you looked at these? http://www.bpnorthwest.com/triumph/spitfire/brakes/brakes-control.html Charly Mitchel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shawn Frank" To: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 6:26 PM Subject: [Fot] Spitfire BMC >I am wanting to replace my 71 Spitfire MKIV brake master cylinder. Moss >offers a reman for $100 and a stock replacement for $200. > > My questions... What is the difference between the two? Is it worth the > $100 difference? Is there a better BMC out there for a comparible price? > Will any of them be affected too much if I auto cross it? > > I have rebuilt my original BMC twice now and would rather > replace...recommendations? Something between a race set up and stock for a > daily driver... > > Shawn Frank > Spitfire & GT6 Magazine-Editor > Continued Legacy-Owner > Friends of Triumph/NASS/BCCI > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 22 08:58:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B210142EF1 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 08:58:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E367F40451 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 08:49:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.99.61] (c-76-99-29-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [76.99.29.73]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.08(7.0.4.27.7) 64bit (built Aug 22 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0MV2009H7RSTAK90@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 14:48:31 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-10-22_03:2013-10-22,2013-10-22,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1308280000 definitions=main-1310220054 From: Scott Janzen Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 10:48:29 -0400 References: To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] PRI Spitfire and GT6 Manifold gaskets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've heard a couple of comments from some of you about PRI gaskets, and how the new ones aren't as good as the old ones. Thought you might be interested in the explanation below I got from Chris at PRI yesterday. Begin forwarded message: From: Chris Cancelli Subject: Re: GT6 Manifold gaskets Hi Scott, the material the past had asbestos in it so we had to change. The new gaskets have been just as good. No complaints, hundreds sold, they are still the best gaskets on the market. To make new gaskets altogether (tr4) etc the setup cost is $500. I haven't had too many requests. Chris "Scott Janzen" wrote: Hi, I've gotten these gaskets from you before and have been extraordinarily satisfied. I'd like to get several more, but have heard that they may be thinner and not as durable these days. Please advise, so that I can order. Also, I'm curious as to what the material is - would like to get some gaskets made for my TR4 race car. Thanks, Scott Recent race at Watkins Glen in the GT6, with a buddy of mine close behind. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 22 09:57:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C7042F29 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 09:57:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F335840525 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 09:35:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [67.255.13.17] ([67.255.13.17:50803] helo=Shop) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id C7/0B-15942-D5A96625; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 15:31:41 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: "'Scott Janzen'" , "''Friends of Triumph' Triumph'" References: <33263189-126D-4069-B1D5-67CC1B18ED21@me.com> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 11:31:41 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7PNyYeDCvBBxejSMyLmFNDscJQ4AAA3PWg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] PRI Spitfire and GT6 Manifold gaskets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Well, there have been complaints, quite a number of them in fact. I used his gaskets on racing Spitfire engines and bought them by the dozen years back. The old ones were excellent, the new ones I have found to be useless. At the time (~ a year ago) Chris said to just use two......... Worse than useless! Everyone is certainly entitled to opinions but I will never use these again unless he goes back to the old material which was suburb. Yeah, at the time I too was told there were no complaints and these were just as good. The two products had as much difference as fine oats, before and then after they go through the horse! I still have some of the "old" gaskets and would like to source a production run of them if I can find the material. Those were excellent. As a side note, there was no asbestos in any of the gaskets I got! Russ Moore Spitfire #49 -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Scott Janzen Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:48 AM To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] PRI Spitfire and GT6 Manifold gaskets I've heard a couple of comments from some of you about PRI gaskets, and how the new ones aren't as good as the old ones. Thought you might be interested in the explanation below I got from Chris at PRI yesterday. Begin forwarded message: From: Chris Cancelli Subject: Re: GT6 Manifold gaskets Hi Scott, the material the past had asbestos in it so we had to change. The new gaskets have been just as good. No complaints, hundreds sold, they are still the best gaskets on the market. To make new gaskets altogether (tr4) etc the setup cost is $500. I haven't had too many requests. Chris "Scott Janzen" wrote: Hi, I've gotten these gaskets from you before and have been extraordinarily satisfied. I'd like to get several more, but have heard that they may be thinner and not as durable these days. Please advise, so that I can order. Also, I'm curious as to what the material is - would like to get some gaskets made for my TR4 race car. Thanks, Scott Recent race at Watkins Glen in the GT6, with a buddy of mine close behind. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 22 10:15:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE25D4306B for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 10:15:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s10.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s10.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.85]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C4D42F09 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 10:07:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU180-W54 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s10.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 22 Oct 2013 09:07:01 -0700 From: Chuck WATSON To: FOT List Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:07:00 -0400 FILETIME=[BDE7BA60:01CECF40] Subject: [Fot] Looking for a Dolly Sprint Slave Bracket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Converting to a TR6 gearbox in my GT6. The Dolomite Sprint slave cylinder bracket is said to work well in this conversion. All the parts houses show them as NLA. Nothing on Ebay worldwide. Anybody have one gathering dust!?!?! Thanks, Chuck Watson _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 22 11:06:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB19A431C3 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 11:06:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 301AB4006C for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 10:48:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.74]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4C2B97016E0C4; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:40:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dtc001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dtc001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.163.1]) by mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0309AE000081; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:40:40 -0400 (EDT) References: To: clw2000@msn.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Bruce Lapierre Received: from 71.29.168.129 by Webmail-m107.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.161) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:40:39 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:40:39 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1382460040; bh=7EZqPiBkZnVEj65ruwTrYWOSB1apZR0RFMUCcTPNWdA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=def24lTuYa7bAqh2GVVVKvC78gJbrRIWXVQwb7g5UiSJkqpgjAHzaq00lQlIslHlb RecAY2s7Uy36wxp1OgmFoIbH9b67BP3g5GsecHyUBoDeBtEnXY3nqtrWMpS2c4gDyz u6d+9bOStlYprvjfe4s/bY+p2vHB+7WOJC9PhAqk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294a5266aa88282b Subject: Re: [Fot] Looking for a Dolly Sprint Slave Bracket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net try Richard Truett - 248.336.0472 - rover827@aol.com VTR Dolomite Concultant -----Original Message----- From: Chuck WATSON To: FOT List Sent: Tue, Oct 22, 2013 12:23 pm Subject: [Fot] Looking for a Dolly Sprint Slave Bracket Converting to a TR6 gearbox in my GT6. The Dolomite Sprint slave cylinder racket is said to work well in this conversion. All the parts houses show hem as NLA. Nothing on Ebay worldwide. Anybody have one gathering ust!?!?! Thanks, Chuck Watson ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttr4@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 22 11:35:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D945E43134 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 11:35:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d07.mx.aol.com (omr-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90E742AB9 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 11:11:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.204]) by omr-d07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id C6997701503CC; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 13:10:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dna005a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dna005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.210.209]) by mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 7B6F9E000091; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 13:10:17 -0400 (EDT) References: To: clw2000@msn.com, fot@autox.team.net From: gt6steve@aol.com Received: from 24.120.231.10 by webmail-m245.sysops.aol.com (64.12.138.233) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 22 Oct 2013 13:10:17 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 13:10:17 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1382461817; bh=Zu8EuuSmi+lJ2dgFcqhENYv7tTUeELqtCP2JNjbygnE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bOkg5FVZ745Hjd/spiDKdhcKbp0fwKAGDzDofvTEHY+EnjkM4SQ3jJ96f8QRuT6ds MkF0D2u3apdMaFbXgY6RECSO16l5D2RPAEDQUXKzIPaLBHcy7sROhrdXujckuq4lVK pjXi/PUceDjyzATaGiLkL3nCG8n6IE04wZmf7dI0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cc5266b1794604 Subject: Re: [Fot] Looking for a Dolly Sprint Slave Bracket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I had to fab my own when I did this same job a while ago. There's pics on my Pbucket page. This initial bracket ended up with an extension to the bolts at the back of the case to stiffen it up. [URL=http://s206.photobucket.com/user/GT6Steve/media/Whatchadone014.jpg.html] [IMG]http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb46/GT6Steve/Whatchadone014.jpg[/IMG ][/URL] -----Original Message----- From: Chuck WATSON To: FOT List Sent: Tue, Oct 22, 2013 9:23 am Subject: [Fot] Looking for a Dolly Sprint Slave Bracket Converting to a TR6 gearbox in my GT6. The Dolomite Sprint slave cylinder bracket is said to work well in this conversion. All the parts houses show them as NLA. Nothing on Ebay worldwide. Anybody have one gathering dust!?!?! Thanks, Chuck Watson _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 22 11:50:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0677543122 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 11:50:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3186E4287E for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 11:20:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.88]) by qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id gEhG1m0061u4NiLAAHL4iQ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 17:20:04 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.4] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id gHL31m00B4L5TyG8hHL3kA; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 17:20:04 +0000 From: Bud R To: Spitfire Racing Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 11:20:02 -0600 References: <33263189-126D-4069-B1D5-67CC1B18ED21@me.com> <002601cecf3b$cece4dd0$6c6ae970$@rr.com> s=q20121106; t=1382462404; bh=2i9xsfvNS0mbB+AMcjOGzMEdMUXQwqiYRfdGbcMyuIo=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=F/Xniid9bNIavP4NXIg8M0jERjMURn5S4CWdTr+EJu5DIviylQCOikIUYdsEu2X2k OiJ4pUtiJrDT27O6O97AQPHUnfMoCz2tBxBaykxY9zuTmxZEvUz04yZkM2s0h9EwWx 0NAuNOJTOz+tVrslLAn4QjGdnMV0LKAOyV2B1xSJCVxthSZJdHjy0mcjCLkJ6gE2Pc aIbdZ3R+BgpkYNQ82chy7FYWohwd62wSXcjVtlK4g+yRdZ9ENVfvovdpWgICVBXYkI cdNsr6knjs1+rJsEEIzwMOaRGB0C46dxSHL1zGUNYxsXloO/2CkQCFrhGZNOvfjI9k E4QhQoWFPlTIA== Cc: ''Friends of Triumph' Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] PRI Spitfire and GT6 Manifold gaskets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Me too. I complained like crazy at the deception on their website which apparently showed the old "good" gaskets verses the crappy ones they sent instead. And I got the same lame "use two" advice. No thanks. They are not the best gaskets just the most overpriced. Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:31 AM, Spitfire Racing wrote: > Well, there have been complaints, quite a number of them in fact. I > used his > gaskets on racing Spitfire engines and bought them by the dozen > years back. > The old ones were excellent, the new ones I have found to be > useless. At the > time (~ a year ago) Chris said to just use two......... Worse than > useless! > Everyone is certainly entitled to opinions but I will never use > these again > unless he goes back to the old material which was suburb. > > Yeah, at the time I too was told there were no complaints and these > were > just as good. The two products had as much difference as fine oats, > before > and then after they go through the horse! > I still have some of the "old" gaskets and would like to source a > production > run of them if I can find the material. Those were excellent. As a > side > note, there was no asbestos in any of the gaskets I got! > > > Russ Moore > Spitfire #49 > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Scott Janzen > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:48 AM > To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph > Subject: [Fot] PRI Spitfire and GT6 Manifold gaskets > > I've heard a couple of comments from some of you about PRI gaskets, > and how > the new ones aren't as good as the old ones. Thought you might be > interested in the explanation below I got from Chris at PRI yesterday. > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Chris Cancelli > Subject: Re: GT6 Manifold gaskets > Hi Scott, the material the past had asbestos in it so we had to > change. The > new gaskets have been just as good. No complaints, hundreds sold, > they are > still the best gaskets on the market. > To make new gaskets altogether (tr4) etc the setup cost is $500. I > haven't > had too many requests. > Chris > "Scott Janzen" wrote: > Hi, I've gotten these gaskets from you before and have been > extraordinarily > satisfied. I'd like to get several more, but have heard that they > may be > thinner and not as durable these days. Please advise, so that I can > order. > > Also, I'm curious as to what the material is - would like to get some > gaskets made for my TR4 race car. > > Thanks, Scott > > Recent race at Watkins Glen in the GT6, with a buddy of mine close > behind. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 22 11:51:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5752442F32 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 11:51:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm22.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm22.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952DF42F0C for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 11:30:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.163] by nm22.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Oct 2013 17:30:03 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.139] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Oct 2013 17:30:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Oct 2013 17:30:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 57517 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Oct 2013 17:30:02 -0000 s=s1024; t=1382463002; bh=YAKYfTYglX6XeEGh7Ei9TK52tC810lKlvRDZGqitAlg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XrrvsFvy2D/CQW8OFUONKmO4vOCc2JNNhfTQd6zWFrh8NSFRI1jQ5PappQ6f/o6WUrfBKZ/j7d0h9CXHRdDxacGqysVMIPtZi5xJ2a94a6UcYKp9u1p7XsT+ykAKUUhtSor8VDkLNel1qls1I6cDbtDbBSD+QbSZfY6M0b+JgcI= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=c6Yt5HvH4TWIG56Z7wymmOFGDe5QJmiktVjIgfqEtFdVVN5Hr4CnF/jhUbd7t1293QRGVv53XHTS2XN4MhbA95lsg3EUFuXypkNLjFl1ei6O1xIXl/+0YeNlSU5+6htddLCN3577WVsSQ6yNDHWHxawnacdLXTCD9hU+rKZoplY=; vm4il1Svwh1ftT5G.zbZKuTfewdau_RpXhKVdh7MAj_8q4FpbxdXR0C9KTFt BrFP2_GP09qr.4F.Tl6sNUx9uJflNXE.FxBgRlegra3UC0ZDSxEI_tZP0M9y 4KELMiFIbAyV.MhAyR5g.Mw1yZLZdaFqj0nvBvcRhRufj4rfFHbx8ARhrjS7 PM_8DGpxR0i77ihi629ylKHvWXcwv9LlU_NMHK9OUHkkxhqCevSDKP_oLqI7 B03tgL3RcLVmgspZWFmVmCFjo93WcU__KDISS.giqa7NL_24lMYoPRbgkkBj cN7hy8zx8pVh1BSTslGcpbJsmVbBEWVcTMo8.DWq9DBNuCvg7O6kvfQPtl0d 8F5IkjH7uhWgRvUO6PmYzbPSMiq28b4nWCufkCeRTcD_vgswqQyDXIEHDJq1 7Ua1f_h7W5fQhQt_I9dekcZ3nCR697IFvldZzK7lsVDhBOzJncVeJlWEB.yx hJ8X7cfmoXevD2HyST.Jp9K4MJfdCkFGfcTKcoMFm8LAkJqe1jORbXNOmwfc W2_FEjEcxc9672gyexlbnqUN9b_r0uajO1TtnkdEA6whSXTB3EftVjouWdtB VDcFjMZhT1ZkCtGLamqsfEmcGcfkpdExb Received: from [68.165.86.214] by web182203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 10:30:02 PDT SSd2ZSBnb3QgYSBUUjYgdHJhbnNtaXNzaW9uIHRoYXQgd2FzIGdvaW5nIHRvIHVzZWQgaW4gbXkgR1Q2IHJhY2UgY2FyLiBJdCBoYXMgY2xvc2UgcmF0aW8gZ2VhcnMgZnJvbSBFbmdsYW5kIGFuZCB3YXMgYnVpbHQgYnkgb3VyIGZyaWVuZHMgYXQgUXVhbnR1bSBtZWNoYW5pY3MgKG5ldmVyIHVzZWQpIC4uLiBJJ3ZlIHdhbnQgJDE1MDAgLi4ucGx1cyB0aGUgaW5mb3JtYXRpb24gZm9yIHRoZSBsaW5rcyB0byBjb252ZXJzaW9uIGlmIGFueSBib2R5IGhhcyBpbnRlcmVzdCwgcGxlYXNlIHNpZGViYXIgaWdvZmEBMAEBAQE- References: <8D09D5C9383CE29-954-35195@Webmail-m107.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 10:30:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Bobby Whitehead To: Bruce Lapierre , "clw2000@msn.com" , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Looking for a Dolly Sprint Slave Bracket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've got a TR6 transmission that was going to used in my GT6 race car. It has close ratio gears from England and was built by our friends at Quantum mechanics (never used) ... I've want $1500 ...plus the information for the links to conversion if any body has interest, please sidebar igofaster@att.net ... Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: Bruce Lapierre To: clw2000@msn.com; fot@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Looking for a Dolly Sprint Slave Bracket try Richard Truett - 248.336.0472 - rover827@aol.com VTR Dolomite Concultant -----Original Message----- From: Chuck WATSON To: FOT List Sent: Tue, Oct 22, 2013 12:23 pm Subject: [Fot] Looking for a Dolly Sprint Slave Bracket Converting to a TR6 gearbox in my GT6. The Dolomite Sprint slave cylinder racket is said to work well in this conversion. All the parts houses show hem as NLA. Nothing on Ebay worldwide. Anybody have one gathering ust!?!?! Thanks, Chuck Watson ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttr4@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 22 12:06:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C5842F35 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:06:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm12-vm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm12-vm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C69BE40525 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 11:39:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.165] by nm12.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Oct 2013 17:38:54 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.134] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Oct 2013 17:38:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1010.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Oct 2013 17:38:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 30505 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Oct 2013 17:38:54 -0000 s=s1024; t=1382463534; bh=fmk/wOv7LsSG2bVC5lsOgYbKTPJppfiZW4GH49dZJaU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HVDHmgmjpnIdPpcOztKP82I6AkjDIeYXnnK9RjYZ1Ps4pUoGGMSdTlTZSAuTcrjdyeT+rfNwPvW0wyiiUClzTTF9PbwqOVi8KNMfvYgrN+taSZGsb6Q7Oy98v5WsI4jV1lNvOdD5YZgIaNBlRauwt3BIKvEnKA77v0DMdLUKUNw= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=T+tOAXZ0HSm0NG5n8znaz7ZK/GeMKJM//HRC5rAaRHGPZ9AM+pF06nBhZVIqUK9B2LsE4xc7LxxB40kp2iku2Fqo1N8phb2w4qMYROpDynH2LpIHU+hKHfk5OzyD6J+bt+vYHLkEThA6usZ138z4NMdT/9z96a494rsr83T5Itg=; zDqMRihqsMaVEfs4wPImvHiEVJU73WkgZvn6hso1MEe2cOl612xid2CXubuT xo7iJ5hq9KjN4lNihoZWaY6ApJ9ayLCRtBCuzD0gsTghjR1mgeaiMY.Uvbbb jyJqXEl3Eqg5v2D2aiW6AXvmDo1yYSJjArJqxdWKHyfxN6dhNZUU957zShMY JLncurOZ9HxOZ_ZKAUyjyR0b3aINjVDtEc622DLJc1mWC1AQtQg6gvmx3t1Z P0hxQXMxEWFGdCqJGT.Ltw3HWlkeQ7zTu3bJxIXsEo9NNqguZBFDfGoTU9Au gJX9WFGCYrQBv.xPpyVcfb5tK2.cP8V0FwjDZOunZIedVnX6CJdRlDi08wFI N471mEEvFTr_8tjsHZDNT_t.CwEbOw_P81n6fCfzKyCVmn7mnUbwsFekdkme XPuOr7N_1DHfSRmp4SRjgKXU.tmyIG8_5137rsyPooejGFPIZOVILskvAu7c _3grXZVbeeartJ7Hu6WZJOIMEC0AjuBTatba_sCi1MSZ4mC2uoMS4RG3z3aF gropaPgJNxZA4r_5zyL.okQQKqYYRKgEHZYE9rqe_P0i2.R4OgZZ6bKXphKW 0BfwVSfGYET1N4ZpCc.oqTzFDtj6hRgDIfba9BrlCSIlCz3YOF9Go4iMTjit rtRO7OglcQvT_ZxHR8M8WRK2YHLM6bJEyXxywDteZzWmWPgyGx7EYkYj626p A0k0DMN1dT0pNew0zwng_GGFupxLEyZHUG69eqmlYuLzFCVd0BrQxy7WgWbY UDyQYtyo- Received: from [68.165.86.214] by web182206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 10:38:53 PDT UXVhbnR1bSBtZWNoYW5pY3MgMjAzLTQ1OS05NjEyCsKgwqDCoCAKCnBsdXMgU3RldmUgU21pdGggaGFzIGEgcGhvdG9idWNrZXQKCmh0dHA6Ly8yMDYucGhvdG9idWNrZXQuY29tL2FsYnVtcy9iYjQ2L0dUNlN0ZXZlLz9hY3Rpb249dmlldyZjdXJyZW50PVdoYXRjaGFkb25lMDE0LmpwZwoKYSBuZXcgZW5naW5lIGJhY2tpbmcgcGxhdGUsIG1vZGlmeSB0aGUgZnJhbWUsIGNyb3NzIG1lbWJlciBwbGF0ZSB0byBtb3VudCwgbG9uZ2VyIHBpbG90IGJ1c2hpbmcgYW5kIHBvc3NpYmx5IHNob3J0ZW5pbmcgdGhlIGkBMAEBAQE- References: Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 10:38:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Bobby Whitehead To: Chuck WATSON , FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Looking for a Dolly Sprint Slave Bracket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Quantum mechanics 203-459-9612 plus Steve Smith has a photobucket http://206.photobucket.com/albums/bb46/GT6Steve/?action=view¤t=Whatchad one014.jpg a new engine backing plate, modify the frame, cross member plate to mount, longer pilot bushing and possibly shortening the input shaft by about 3/4" Bobby Whitehead ________________________________ From: Chuck WATSON To: FOT List Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 11:07 AM Subject: [Fot] Looking for a Dolly Sprint Slave Bracket Converting to a TR6 gearbox in my GT6. The Dolomite Sprint slave cylinder bracket is said to work well in this conversion. All the parts houses show them as NLA. Nothing on Ebay worldwide. Anybody have one gathering dust!?!?! Thanks, Chuck Watson _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 22 12:21:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC0B42F5B for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:21:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f42.google.com (mail-ee0-f42.google.com [74.125.83.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02AFC40323 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 11:59:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f42.google.com with SMTP id b45so4666836eek.15 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 10:58:15 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=nA4GzObFJy4Rcnto8VMJWzZiCwj4VxWCKgRtMwFOCp8=; b=lZ3PpAyFBLG27rr5kETceY3l8N52KZejnUgzFp60DhYX62VeCw1jgcNuNgCR6agIGP ZvMUrsoEvgDubtKXPgYvWd+Zk2EmSZuD9X9xTGV+EwdIpfQ771woBNb0j395XiTzggQe uh1ReEzRRCHsbV2tOeFklRBSjCz6UU/OW7dqHD+PeEs5YUHJLPpK/UOT5vxtGWc+J7EW rD8w0KsBe9ycfSxryZ+ftMd9MCjC/aksy0q+gr4cKm9nbheh8bUCSKEkpGsQIAARw7Qn T4QC6VrCLlSb2q3aFzWYXEa70Xz541KX6slFrMJZN6tGuEWppwHmThlrxVl1R3gSLwX1 +soA== a9mr30346610eeo.28.1382464695335; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 10:58:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home (ip-109-84-82-66.web.vodafone.de. [109.84.82.66]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id h45sm59575631eeg.5.2013.10.22.10.58.14 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 22 Oct 2013 10:58:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "''Friends of Triumph' Triumph'" References: <33263189-126D-4069-B1D5-67CC1B18ED21@me.com> <002601cecf3b$cece4dd0$6c6ae970$@rr.com> <2A91944A-BADE-4383-ACB0-44F2DFEB1431@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 19:57:35 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac7PTx+bMreC2NjzQdaNMPmeFrpmHgAAKtpg Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] PRI Spitfire and GT6 Manifold gaskets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I don't understand these problems. I use very thin metal gaskets on this place.....after I did this: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Yu7jMp1QKHA/TyHIEEkiz0I/AAAAAAAABJo/Slgxz TfiYVY/w1037-h778-no/DSC02485.JPG I had put all intakes and exhaust headers on a mill and milled them perfect flat an inline. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Bud R Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. Oktober 2013 19:20 An: Spitfire Racing Cc: ''Friends of Triumph' Triumph' Betreff: Re: [Fot] PRI Spitfire and GT6 Manifold gaskets Me too. I complained like crazy at the deception on their website which apparently showed the old "good" gaskets verses the crappy ones they sent instead. And I got the same lame "use two" advice. No thanks. They are not the best gaskets just the most overpriced. Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:31 AM, Spitfire Racing wrote: > Well, there have been complaints, quite a number of them in fact. I > used his gaskets on racing Spitfire engines and bought them by the > dozen years back. > The old ones were excellent, the new ones I have found to be useless. > At the time (~ a year ago) Chris said to just use two......... Worse > than useless! > Everyone is certainly entitled to opinions but I will never use these > again unless he goes back to the old material which was suburb. > > Yeah, at the time I too was told there were no complaints and these > were just as good. The two products had as much difference as fine > oats, before and then after they go through the horse! > I still have some of the "old" gaskets and would like to source a > production run of them if I can find the material. Those were > excellent. As a side note, there was no asbestos in any of the gaskets > I got! > > > Russ Moore > Spitfire #49 > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Scott Janzen > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:48 AM > To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph > Subject: [Fot] PRI Spitfire and GT6 Manifold gaskets > > I've heard a couple of comments from some of you about PRI gaskets, > and how the new ones aren't as good as the old ones. Thought you > might be interested in the explanation below I got from Chris at PRI > yesterday. > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Chris Cancelli > Subject: Re: GT6 Manifold gaskets > Hi Scott, the material the past had asbestos in it so we had to > change. The new gaskets have been just as good. No complaints, > hundreds sold, they are still the best gaskets on the market. > To make new gaskets altogether (tr4) etc the setup cost is $500. I > haven't had too many requests. > Chris > "Scott Janzen" wrote: > Hi, I've gotten these gaskets from you before and have been > extraordinarily satisfied. I'd like to get several more, but have > heard that they may be thinner and not as durable these days. Please > advise, so that I can order. > > Also, I'm curious as to what the material is - would like to get some > gaskets made for my TR4 race car. > > Thanks, Scott > > Recent race at Watkins Glen in the GT6, with a buddy of mine close > behind. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 22 12:52:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DFB442FE3 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:52:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f179.google.com (mail-ea0-f179.google.com [209.85.215.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8574054D for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:12:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f179.google.com with SMTP id b10so4432396eae.10 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 11:11:44 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=avA1vgx7iacKUifSfP3oAGpUnusTAob49mSGbuuTk9k=; b=Ai80y3KPEiBTIXMhI5inYVtOTUu6UVRlobkUFQcRezSBFMu7YDUoFP3hDTp87JIOhf 0vzr7cxfKwMjR/b2R8sjZ4CAoHTaELHwbIEhFxt2GffZnJo/uNyuhciQdkML4iQWRyIY lZlyTGwm7jpQD01npZ38T2a4A5FrOrFO76JcUw/VF9yumzMSG/d75KsKgV+jmq0cPESj uLWTV0JeUcLSgijV2202MFhzi5bLz0Y+ncUS66YWc8QfXHUvpa1aVfuQT9a7QXr1fCg3 dk9r4BV+8wwss/MTW61q2D+/E7D/FOzXPWH5CNKxQ5AmUoc3RGAtpQcCeteFMhlFS9OY bqIw== Tue, 22 Oct 2013 11:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home (ip-109-84-82-66.web.vodafone.de. [109.84.82.66]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r48sm59641622eev.14.2013.10.22.11.11.43 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 22 Oct 2013 11:11:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "''Friends of Triumph' Triumph'" References: <21F7BCF6-F237-49B0-A6C7-90A791E1266B@me.com><20131021151225.D11B943131@autox.team.net> <000001cece7d$102b4c70$3081e550$@ca> <5902ABEC840C47BB931CFF72B409CC35@Charly> <1382389010.81683.YahooMailNeo@web162503.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 20:11:04 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac7OoQzKv/KSLwWySRKGCIv65jO6agAsB6ug Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 manifold gaskets - Update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The basic engineering rule for gaskets says: As thin as possible as thick as needed. If you have flat flanges you can use a thin gasket if you like. Anything works. I use very thin gaskets from Bastuck. They are very cheap maybe 5$ each. I suppose you have similar stuff in USA. Never failed after milled all the flanges of exhaust and intakes. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von John Wagner Gesendet: Montag, 21. Oktober 2013 22:57 An: Charly Mitchel; Barry Munson; 'Scott Janzen'; ''Friends of Triumph' Triumph' Betreff: Re: [Fot] TR4 manifold gaskets - Update I found a Fel-Pro product called Pro-Ramic 101 it's a high temp. facing with a perforated steel core about 1/16 thick and comes in a 12''x28 1/2'' sheet (a life time supply) . With the steel core it is a little difficult to cut out, but will last a long time I smear on anti seizing compound and never have a problem reusing them The best part is it cost $7.99 At your local NAPA store. John Wagner Just the wrench On Monday, October 21, 2013 12:02 PM, Charly Mitchel wrote: I use the HP gasket from Moss on my TR6 and don't consider it reusable, but I have used one several times until you can't anymore, which can be once or 3 or 4 times. I've never had one separate, they usually tear at an exhaust port. I buy them six or so at a time and only reuse if in good condition. It's not worth trying to reuse an old gasket that's questionable and have a vacuum leak. Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Munson" To: "'Scott Janzen'" ; "''Friends of Triumph' Triumph'" Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 manifold gaskets - Update > Hi Scott - I use these gaskets on my Volvo P1800 race car, the TR3 and > most > recently on the 1980 460 Ford motor in my tow vehicle where they solved a > whole bunch of "old" vehicle issues. So, as an initial use gasket, they > are > an excellent product. WRT to the reuse issue, I have not had to try that, > yet. I did, however, speak to their technical people and asked that > specific > question and the answer was that they do not market their gaskets as > reusable because they have a tendency to split in half when you remove the > manifolds, especially the exhaust. If you can remove the manifolds and > leave > the gasket intact then they are reusable. Hmmmmmm - I guess that I agree > with Tony and would consider them as a one time use only and if you are > successful in removing the manifolds and leaving the gasket intact then > it's > a bonus. Since they are expensive I guess it's a case of deciding what > your priority is - a gasket that seals exceptionally well or one that > can be > reused. Ideally you would like both but with these gaskets it's a case > of - > you pays your money and takes your chances. > Barry. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Tony Drews > Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:39 PM > To: Scott Janzen; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 manifold gaskets > > There's a compressible graphite gasket at www.remflex.com (their site > seems > to be down at the moment). They are not what I'd call "reusable" through. > > Tony Drews > > At 07:48 PM 10/20/2013, Scott Janzen wrote: >>Is there a supplier for a better-than-stock manifold gasket - just >>pulled things apart to get at a couple of exhaust gas sensors, and the >>stock gasket disintegrated into multiple pieces/layers. >>On the GT6 I use these incredibly durable, re-usable gaskets I get >>from PRI, but he only has Spit/GT6 stuff. >> >>Suggestions? >>_______________________________________________ >>fot@autox.team.net >> >>http://www.fot-racing.com >> >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/barry@penybryn.ca > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/j.wags63@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 22 13:06:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1154321F for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 13:06:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com (omr-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B9340400 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:36:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.204]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id AFD4B70146A80 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 14:35:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dbe002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dbe002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.49.70]) by mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 7CC5EE000091 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 14:35:51 -0400 (EDT) From: JandJalford@aol.com Full-name: JandJalford Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 14:35:51 -0400 (EDT) To: FOT@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1382466951; bh=VEtcP85JEFFjrn2HkCwL786RQBzO7fTThbXz/bdqpv4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ebjDP0P4gXl4jHChIrVsxwZFZLsEpGftm3N9QVqAz6F1uYlmA6dW5RK+hMtJYoqmS /a4I6nUsr8tfgcT3Eu4s6uC5z98k12D+FlRabtNik78u+VE1J1NuuOtcDtrcYr5IQ0 Y16nDV9562FkX+XOhKEEeH6wr+6ryQYJMbQWWzs0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cc5266c5870bd1 Subject: [Fot] E-Mails Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Please remove me from your e-mail list. Thank you Jerry Alford _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 22 13:07:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB1D434E8 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 13:07:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (fed1rmfepo201.cox.net [68.230.241.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB5A40442 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:41:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo209 ([68.230.241.160]) by fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20131022184026.XSVZ18907.fed1rmfepo201.cox.net@fed1rmimpo209> for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 14:40:26 -0400 Received: from Vista ([68.99.81.230]) by fed1rmimpo209 with cox id gJgS1m0014y9KJU01JgSGL; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 14:40:26 -0400 a=lK8ATXWXs+ysZELPK4T+bA==:17 a=gIXUp5F5H-0A:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=EYzI1EGJihgA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=tYbqhUTXAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=TipkFsFJSX8roKvVn-AA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=VqFtzeFplR4A:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=SusEogvV9IGDJXbN:21 a=c0iESphSfLdams5a:21 a=lK8ATXWXs+ysZELPK4T+bA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: "'Bud R'" , "'Spitfire Racing'" References: <33263189-126D-4069-B1D5-67CC1B18ED21@me.com><002601cecf3b$cece4dd0$6c6ae970$@rr.com> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 11:40:33 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac7PTyuHLbXWri8YTyer0WmXNcuoGwABsy3w Cc: ''Friends of Triumph' Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] PRI Spitfire and GT6 Manifold gaskets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The more I hear about this company, the more I realize that the owner has no interest in credibility and will sooner or later go out of business when everyone finally realizes how little customer concern he has. Joe -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bud R Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:20 AM To: Spitfire Racing Cc: ''Friends of Triumph' Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] PRI Spitfire and GT6 Manifold gaskets Me too. I complained like crazy at the deception on their website which apparently showed the old "good" gaskets verses the crappy ones they sent instead. And I got the same lame "use two" advice. No thanks. They are not the best gaskets just the most overpriced. Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:31 AM, Spitfire Racing wrote: > Well, there have been complaints, quite a number of them in fact. I > used his > gaskets on racing Spitfire engines and bought them by the dozen > years back. > The old ones were excellent, the new ones I have found to be > useless. At the > time (~ a year ago) Chris said to just use two......... Worse than > useless! > Everyone is certainly entitled to opinions but I will never use > these again > unless he goes back to the old material which was suburb. > > Yeah, at the time I too was told there were no complaints and these > were > just as good. The two products had as much difference as fine oats, > before > and then after they go through the horse! > I still have some of the "old" gaskets and would like to source a > production > run of them if I can find the material. Those were excellent. As a > side > note, there was no asbestos in any of the gaskets I got! > > > Russ Moore > Spitfire #49 > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Scott Janzen > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:48 AM > To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph > Subject: [Fot] PRI Spitfire and GT6 Manifold gaskets > > I've heard a couple of comments from some of you about PRI gaskets, > and how > the new ones aren't as good as the old ones. Thought you might be > interested in the explanation below I got from Chris at PRI yesterday. > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Chris Cancelli > Subject: Re: GT6 Manifold gaskets > Hi Scott, the material the past had asbestos in it so we had to > change. The > new gaskets have been just as good. No complaints, hundreds sold, > they are > still the best gaskets on the market. > To make new gaskets altogether (tr4) etc the setup cost is $500. I > haven't > had too many requests. > Chris > "Scott Janzen" wrote: > Hi, I've gotten these gaskets from you before and have been > extraordinarily > satisfied. I'd like to get several more, but have heard that they > may be > thinner and not as durable these days. Please advise, so that I can > order. > > Also, I'm curious as to what the material is - would like to get some > gaskets made for my TR4 race car. > > Thanks, Scott > > Recent race at Watkins Glen in the GT6, with a buddy of mine close > behind. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 22 14:53:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B494431F7 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 14:53:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm47.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm47.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.120.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F505431E7 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 14:33:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm47.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Oct 2013 20:32:57 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.131] by nm47.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Oct 2013 20:30:02 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.171] by tm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Oct 2013 20:30:02 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.196] by tm17.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Oct 2013 20:30:02 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Oct 2013 20:30:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 37898 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Oct 2013 20:30:02 -0000 s=s1024; t=1382473802; bh=SrzBt4sJxeGOU6aWN2DZMiKuUYtfpYntfEDeZK+pDwg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CO0DxkbIhviahp+G4Mg52kx7ZgzYuHEW9DYPKrXyXmZ5jhSqECdXbO/fHcvEYM5DfzPTc/gP0xxWBfA1+4fJny1bmyvSVrMfZWAzDXArfZrRtugsox9Y8HZ/b06n2+U+D2EODUqM+M45HD7bKsAHJ+oA27vj2AT6/6navoT31r8= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=iV+wFcXz1T5OEITJj1i6FxH9i+AjgRHE9DsI16OoIjA/K5Fk1QG7uoMN0tfejwVYdlc7ZyyZpV+/3sDtrBADrveXXIGbeng4xmvfz2Fkvc+nE5C6sXL28ja35KWF5mpq8smpnqm3zOpd1xt5TNWZ+2VjXh28zRDHmWUvoBIA3wQ=; reBuPawg9bpuTZX38oUZm16YcqDC74YKqu2c9w0uqpbnKZqn_mC7c.enmeHO 5xMURURaQxOb3dzTqVZGlxzpHPANeA7lQdt3tG8cxx4YIM2eQLAaEMJr_6vM WaFdrxGXVbv0sMo9THGxYmEdJrfwMFQBfhu7pn8E3oQ0.DMSaDwmw_BTOVN7 5WpFjxaM99p3xg3QtDOH0g9ctrHsHdDUniOfSeXfKJDuXU9GSJf_Wfcl6qxE V9xZV0DFI_z4Pz7piynLBUPs7XkEMs0MNi.FIyigPicjLyxIP.atHP3n97Ed pSfj6e9PD53tVCGi19LoDnEjUQVEjGMTlb1YPJwcsEuev8as8cgA8g_oKy7p PaO50Y_AycNlKxuc8zxUJXwRB7btC1ljIoJv09QOKDgy4_TTgxi3vtf4CEYV P9k1VuFeBDgM.zhEENXF4R8Ut3.WpT2mA.FWqs8ClJVeGGo15_m0BnShuusw JVbEwptCgaV3djQgrCVrlEAIoAWxi3wKNpvdWkGVKVbIyqZo9aWxD3MxNYN1 YE2bpc9uogqD991k2GExBhQ-- Received: from [162.226.158.46] by web140601.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 13:30:02 PDT Sm9objoKCgpQbGVhc2UgY29udGFjdCBtZSBvZmYgdGhlIGxpc3QuwqAgCgoKVGhhbmsgeW91CgpFcm5pZQoBMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 13:30:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Ernest Husmann To: FOT Subject: [Fot] John Fridirici Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net John: Please contact me off the list. Thank you Ernie _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 22 16:26:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37F2434DC for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 16:26:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f44.google.com (mail-wg0-f44.google.com [74.125.82.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E67BC40400 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 15:49:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id n12so8606849wgh.35 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 14:48:16 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=twVdM9isdhu2eVj8TQCybhRPbwXUt0pbu8Lq7AY247k=; b=PmrAlHg2NMIDwvlSmxzn01Ba/4e8lruEWcaDVy8K3BuokAQNiFLrsd4aDH1o5VnCYb JKhYub0WEAVldTe6mARvKYA35Rkb7wWno3cu4rf8T5nbgm1iQS5ezaxQSXIK8VeHlFY/ FB/st9GpP9dJTZU/dvZnmu7RFpLIVAD9/CzGOYFTHQ7XkG1wrwq4u4J4SQ6pIJ3eAvST aLB7STgX9TFas7UKhrcaLfYaYWg6YhGehy5sBtX2uERl19PUSNlWOoC/A414mBkXyT47 TymQ25bYpDYmvgPn8rFQRhKI0+QXmbZSoWC7VWpq+dTA3+8N05Igrkbf1vyAVNRN8qTf ArKA== pk1mr11765423wjc.36.1382478495903; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 14:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.170.65 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 14:47:55 -0700 (PDT) From: "Enquiries Road & Track" Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 07:47:55 +1000 To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] re; Looking for a Dolly Sprint Slave Bracket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net i use this on our GT6 racer. you also need the matching gearbox cross-shaft. i can email a pic if you need it. I might have a spare. email me if you cant find one in the USA Terry Australia [image: facebook] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image002.jpg] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 23 04:41:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86ACB434E6 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 04:41:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.wave1.net (unknown [74.219.105.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D925A42F91 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 04:41:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [74.219.99.119] by mail.wave1.net (ArGoSoft Mail Server .NET v.1.0.8.3) with ESMTP (EHLO mtmPC) for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 06:41:30 -0400 From: "Mike Moore" To: Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 06:40:12 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7P3ECDQAvMPZkfQ4+dQ5FTokyb0w== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] TR6 Clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have a TR6 clutch on my TR4 with a ARE lightened flywheel. Currently just a stock pressure plate an disc. Engine is out so I am going to replace. I have had no problems with this set up, but what do you recommend putting in? Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 23 05:42:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5967C4320A for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 05:42:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.wave1.net (unknown [74.219.105.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2432B43074 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 05:33:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [74.219.99.119] by mail.wave1.net (ArGoSoft Mail Server .NET v.1.0.8.3) with ESMTP (EHLO mtmPC) for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 07:34:11 -0400 From: "Mike Moore" To: Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 07:32:53 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7P45z2GhMVvdv6QuugSSJI42eM6w== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] TR6 clutch in my TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Probably didn't word that last inquiry too well. If I stay with stock pressure plate and disc, what brands should I consider, AP, Sachs, Roadster factory Magic clutch, etc? Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 23 10:01:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEBA542FB3 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 10:01:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s23.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s23.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.98]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1758C42FA3 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 09:55:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU180-W22 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s23.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 23 Oct 2013 08:54:21 -0700 From: Chuck WATSON To: Enquiries Road & Track , FOT List Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 11:54:20 -0400 References: FILETIME=[2355E2B0:01CED008] Subject: Re: [Fot] re; Looking for a Dolly Sprint Slave Bracket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Terry - Thanks for the info. Any pics are useful. No luck in finding one in the US (or Britain) yet. If you have any such spares it would be great news. Thanks, Chuck Watson > From: enquiries@roadandtrack.net.au > Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 07:47:55 +1000 > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] re; Looking for a Dolly Sprint Slave Bracket > > i use this on our GT6 racer. you also need the matching gearbox cross-shaft. > > i can email a pic if you need it. > > I might have a spare. email me if you cant find one in the USA > > Terry > Australia > > > [image: facebook] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image002.jpg] > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/clw2000@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 23 10:02:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA5042FE1 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 10:02:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E070642FA6 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 10:00:39 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=ij7IWTmWZwVjc9FCkVD8ChLHcSSH6ZwRmDKeTz1krQ3Ah4dMEqAcnGm2Oyd6BisN; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.24] (helo=mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1VZ0qY-0001E1-KW for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 11:59:46 -0400 Received: from 108.64.186.7 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 11:59:46 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 08:59:46 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: steve To: ''Friends of Triumph' Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 manifold gaskets - Update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net These work great. I can use them over and over again. http://www.cambridgemotorsport.com/Inlet--Exhaust-Manifold-Gasket---High-Port-Head ~Steve _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 23 10:32:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209A442FD2 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 10:32:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d06.mx.aol.com (omr-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED9E42FA3 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 10:25:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.131]) by omr-d06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id F0C397013644A for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:24:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.39.197.82] (mobile-198-228-194-205.mycingular.net [198.228.194.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id A7C86E0000CD for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:24:30 -0400 (EDT) References: <47D5839A-F9E7-42B2-8F60-34119940AFE5@comcast.net> From: christopher bock Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:23:38 -0400 To: FoTTriumph x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1382545471; bh=PuKYXeu4VKBPydaPTYigbxSydXPaMPORC9CKyqsPnJ4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=xpHOvK91RT1w3meaYB+etMDz55r/8e5gJT7dJLjv/lFxNq0tXkqWstQ3EhcL71OWd oCnEpYuvhfUTEks5VMk+xeoo/CRLBrrgoTdEcK6ccx+9xuWFxZ6yZxgQE6/bl2MNNt E233UUonVjUAimoF1ZCO2PjhEQLCN/BwCXf6aiW0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33835267f83d35ae Subject: [Fot] The Scourge of Lucas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I received this from another group and I thought to share it with you. Chris > The Scourge of Lucas > > (To the tune of bThe Sounds of Silenceb) > > > > Hello darkness my old friend > Ibve come to sit in you again > Because a wire softly loosening > Left its place while I was cruising > And my vision, that was guided by its light > Gave way to night > Thanks to the Scourge of Lucas > > > > So many nights Ibve worked btil dawn > Trying to find out what went wrong > bNeath the halo of a street lamp > Ibve jiggled wires btil my fingers cramp > And my arms are scarred from the bright sparks that split the air > And singed my hair > Thanks to the Scourge of Lucas > > > > And in the sparking light I saw > 10,000 MGs maybe more. > Engines cranking without starting > Switches clicking without switching > People starting drives that ended in a tow > And dreams laid low > Thanks to the Scourge of Lucas. > > > > Fools say I do not know > How to fix a dynamo > Under the dash I canbt quite reach you > Despite my cursing that Ibll teach you > But my words, like burned-out lightbulbs fell > Into the hell > Of Lucas > > > > And the experts bowed and prayed > To the manuals that theybd made > And the manuals gave dire warning > About the hazards of most everything > But the words of those prophets gave not one single clue > What I could do > To end the Scourge of Lucas _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 23 10:47:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1945542FD2 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 10:47:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d06.mx.aol.com (omr-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC3F42FA3 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 10:40:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.9]) by omr-d06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 2C7AF70000099 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:39:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dtd005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dtd005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.163.145]) by mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id EE2B4E000081; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:39:45 -0400 (EDT) References: <47D5839A-F9E7-42B2-8F60-34119940AFE5@comcast.net> <1DBC95D1-E481-413D-B683-8A413DB17EFE@aol.com> To: SeaCubeCo@aol.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Bruce Lapierre Received: from 71.29.168.129 by Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.160) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:39:45 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:39:45 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1382546386; bh=txQDGIamO/H1TLB4OLMHlLjIz5AQNP2cJmS+n0kg438=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Zf0aCSqjF+i4pAQoLzeAzyaR9VByjw/KdifEMjJrC/Ap5lMN9fhVwceanNzNkpbng gL1LnFOmQcSu7x5kK3qN7pEkUdaWrnM3+FTdggPhW7Bf5vkIpRM/nKlwN6p11IFMd6 UdF/WnqMUS614gBMHjfp3fyRwqzSPS58heUyNCiM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29095267fbd11157 Subject: Re: [Fot] The Scourge of Lucas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Excellent! May I reproduce it in our local news letter? -----Original Message----- From: christopher bock To: FoTTriumph Sent: Wed, Oct 23, 2013 12:31 pm Subject: [Fot] The Scourge of Lucas I received this from another group and I thought to share it with you. Chris The Scourge of Lucas (To the tune of bThe Sounds of Silenceb) Hello darkness my old friend Ibve come to sit in you again Because a wire softly loosening Left its place while I was cruising And my vision, that was guided by its light Gave way to night Thanks to the Scourge of Lucas So many nights Ibve worked btil dawn Trying to find out what went wrong bNeath the halo of a street lamp Ibve jiggled wires btil my fingers cramp And my arms are scarred from the bright sparks that split the air And singed my hair Thanks to the Scourge of Lucas And in the sparking light I saw 10,000 MGs maybe more. Engines cranking without starting Switches clicking without switching People starting drives that ended in a tow And dreams laid low Thanks to the Scourge of Lucas. Fools say I do not know How to fix a dynamo Under the dash I canbt quite reach you Despite my cursing that Ibll teach you But my words, like burned-out lightbulbs fell Into the hell Of Lucas And the experts bowed and prayed To the manuals that theybd made And the manuals gave dire warning About the hazards of most everything But the words of those prophets gave not one single clue What I could do To end the Scourge of Lucas ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttr4@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 23 11:49:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A07540442 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 11:49:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d04.mx.aol.com (omr-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.201]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D2942F29 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 11:44:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.130]) by omr-d04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B572A700000BE for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:44:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.39.197.82] (mobile-198-228-194-205.mycingular.net [198.228.194.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id EBF43E000153; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:44:03 -0400 (EDT) References: <47D5839A-F9E7-42B2-8F60-34119940AFE5@comcast.net> <1DBC95D1-E481-413D-B683-8A413DB17EFE@aol.com> <8D09E259D9DAAC5-8E4-505A@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> From: christopher bock Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:42:00 -0400 To: Bruce Lapierre x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1382550244; bh=lJ+FKn9Jb7/1NQxt2WAnbRF5VuWAXfhvNVihmjGBETI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=xqTFlK4zhy+B9V7flev1MLew9VC3euczJJUqw0i8pJfGu/8516T3exmd0IKUkBXU4 xTixxcJ0moqnw+tXOYOH48DzTCNM7RgUXLD/Rjegt0AEEcJMf5K15nQ0Tj/SCcarf9 +aL1F/TPGjlkptTY6t1qp5SyurY9UtTtkAh/byXs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338252680ae34406 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] The Scourge of Lucas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I don't see why not. On Oct 23, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Bruce Lapierre wrote: > Excellent! May I reproduce it in our local news letter? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: christopher bock > To: FoTTriumph > Sent: Wed, Oct 23, 2013 12:31 pm > Subject: [Fot] The Scourge of Lucas > > I received this from another group and I thought to share it with you. > > Chris > > The Scourge of Lucas > > > > (To the tune of bThe Sounds of Silenceb) > > > > > > > > Hello darkness my old friend > > Ibve come to sit in you again > > Because a wire softly loosening > > Left its place while I was cruising > > And my vision, that was guided by its light > > Gave way to night > > Thanks to the Scourge of Lucas > > > > > > > > So many nights Ibve worked btil dawn > > Trying to find out what went wrong > > bNeath the halo of a street lamp > > Ibve jiggled wires btil my fingers cramp > > And my arms are scarred from the bright sparks that split the air > > And singed my hair > > Thanks to the Scourge of Lucas > > > > > > > > And in the sparking light I saw > > 10,000 MGs maybe more. > > Engines cranking without starting > > Switches clicking without switching > > People starting drives that ended in a tow > > And dreams laid low > > Thanks to the Scourge of Lucas. > > > > > > > > Fools say I do not know > > How to fix a dynamo > > Under the dash I canbt quite reach you > > Despite my cursing that Ibll teach you > > But my words, like burned-out lightbulbs fell > > Into the hell > > Of Lucas > > > > > > > > And the experts bowed and prayed > > To the manuals that theybd made > > And the manuals gave dire warning > > About the hazards of most everything > > But the words of those prophets gave not one single clue > > What I could do > > To end the Scourge of Lucas > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttr4@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 23 12:04:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 274DA42FDE for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:04:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from brightmail-internal3.sri.com (brightmail-internal3.SRI.COM [128.18.89.23]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4250840442 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 11:56:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from exchange-hub01.SRI.COM (Unknown_Domain [128.18.87.18]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (AES128-SHA/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by brightmail-internal3.sri.com (SRI Internal SMTP Gateway) with SMTP id 66.4D.25511.0AD08625; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 10:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.18.13.142] (128.18.13.142) by smtp.sri.com (128.18.87.23) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.298.4; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 10:55:42 -0700 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 10:57:19 -0700 From: Cregg Cowan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0.1 To: christopher bock , "fot@autox.team.net Triumph" References: <47D5839A-F9E7-42B2-8F60-34119940AFE5@comcast.net> <1DBC95D1-E481-413D-B683-8A413DB17EFE@aol.com> <8D09E259D9DAAC5-8E4-505A@Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com> <59E2249D-6D08-45CD-8541-5EF14522260F@aol.com> edzfvZLdY9fvGewBTFFcNimpOZllqUX6dglcGRseT2AueM9Y8Xj6H7YGxkOMXYwcHBICJhL/ 32V3MXICmWISF+6tZ+ti5OIQEtjAJPF6YTcLhLOQUeLpn0MsIFW8AmoSk7fcYwaxWQRUJW4/ ncMOYrMJqEu8eLcQLC4qECVx+v8TJoh6QYmTM5+A9YoIxEpM2v0drEZYQFHi7+8tTBALLjNK HLx/FayBU8Ba4uqSg2A2s4CtxIU511kgbHmJ7W/ngDULCShIbPt+knECo8AsJDtmIWmZhaRl ASPzKkaZpKLM9IyS3MTMHF1YQBrrFRdl6iXn525iBAdppPgOxr5ltocYBTgYlXh4dT6kBwmx JpYVV+YeYpTgYFYS4X3yByjEm5JYWZValB9fVJqTWnyIUZqDRUmc9yfDq0AhgfTEktTs1NSC 1CKYLBMHp1QDo+f1K1v2MCzy4nVL07whtnFV7yRp/ZOXMljT3h1cVLh8RcD7Fq3cC6kW/onS iVOrtTy8OnXf5//T29wRZSL5+s8auwe6Ef1r/XMUp1ywyTf5Wrbr1hWp67nZQXcKpi7adVJU cqWJ5tNJ/aZe5cuitu8vi6+LlkjbrcVvOcW9UX/1+skF1zcWKLEUZyQaajEXFScCAPByE/JO AgAA Subject: Re: [Fot] The Scourge of Lucas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The MG forum credits folks at Moss Motors: http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?1,2488063,page=1 (found it on a google search just now). Moss probably won't mind, but I suggest you check with (and credit) them. Regards, Cregg _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 23 12:19:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A148D42FF7 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:19:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f179.google.com (mail-wi0-f179.google.com [209.85.212.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED4C42FB8 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:14:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f179.google.com with SMTP id hm4so1349718wib.0 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 11:13:27 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=z6w9soeID2gCS521QyqSqRiqh3ZEo839LSwq5WjcNh4=; b=oDSZVdmt6gS92a8NMf6q4VN5aK5sbh8XukUGDL5bPd8V6xp5y1CPHMehz+SazkZp+F FKOFXhUrYMi44DuRhR8K36bvRtWZmS7Ptr7ZPpbPt+Yl0AHRSFyTSWOpKFQck2hFZ44M wf12WG16tRyf5F2kexaEk5maUG9VDQ3uPz16ec5BTRfP24MXwmgRCOG7sFMmbVO12n9n kav/RT8eUKb8PoYV7d47aOYJaRYGp18s+bQU21fkdiM08Y6mbxOzFVlh/PEDW3rx8m6G HIJESuIpChz7H1tBGyYfvb24gsR/rL7OPjPfPEN8oiRESYoQXuzvRv0l+WglCTBjBf5U /Gxg== b14mr3273046wic.44.1382552007571; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 11:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.190.201 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 11:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.190.201 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 11:13:27 -0700 (PDT) References: <6045841.1382543986468.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 11:13:27 -0700 From: Christian Marx To: steve Cc: "fot@autox. team. net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 manifold gaskets - Update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mine looks the same Am 23.10.2013 18:01 schrieb "steve" : > These work great. I can use them over and over again. > > > http://www.cambridgemotorsport.com/Inlet--Exhaust-Manifold-Gasket---High-Port-Head > > ~Steve > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 23 13:07:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC12435C2 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:07:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d10.mx.aol.com (omr-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF11742A55 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:03:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by omr-d10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 5A1DE700498A2; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 15:02:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dga003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dga003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.229.9]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0AE12E000085; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 15:02:23 -0400 (EDT) References: To: tr4racing@googlemail.com, colordog.1@earthlink.net Received: from 98.77.53.196 by webmail-m204.sysops.aol.com (64.12.75.244) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 23 Oct 2013 15:02:22 -0400 From: fubog1 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 15:02:22 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1382554943; bh=BmtjnKNVyfjHZz6d9HgmUwpInbwFRCS9ecolzrUji7M=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pv/Mrx2KBV8ObYM7PIZY7J4QMpLXKtuj5NtZIPgil0R+lbHuvVhG/fyr2IBIRpmnl iErmax6mWbXlM9EKhxN/zL/L7QFP6gL6j8plitUfwkkGpps3AXz3/34n3LND2MBC4m rzJWB1SBzEJvVfXUnTEOwnmrGcseZX3gjpCeQFm0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c52681d3f7ef5 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 manifold gaskets - Update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Those are the best that I've used, if the flanges are true, as has been mentioned. Glen -----Original Message----- From: Christian Marx <tr4racing@googlemail.com> To: steve <colordog.1@earthlink.net> Cc: fot@autox. team. net <fot@autox.team.net> Sent: Wed, Oct 23, 2013 2:19 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 manifold gaskets - Update Mine looks the same Am 23.10.2013 18:01 schrieb "steve" <colordog.1@earthlink.net>: > These work great. I can use them over and over again. > > > http://www.cambridgemotorsport.com/Inlet--Exhaust-Manifold-Gasket---High-Port -Head > > ~Steve > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 24 04:58:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC1EC431D7 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 04:58:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.wave1.net (unknown [74.219.105.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE98643124 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 04:37:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [74.219.99.119] by mail.wave1.net (ArGoSoft Mail Server .NET v.1.0.8.3) with ESMTP (EHLO mtmPC) for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 06:37:24 -0400 From: "Mike Moore" To: Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 06:36:06 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7QLmkPKO9o2JKAR8m35syWvQygbAAdlv5Q Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] 112 Year Old Ford Race Car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > : 112 Year Old Ford > > Foundation of the Ford Motor Company > http://www.youtube.com/embed/Ru_hC9oGVbo?feature=player_detailpage > > > > > CONFIDENTIAL: This electronic mail (including any attachments) may > contain > information that is privileged, confidential, and/or otherwise > protected from > disclosure to anyone other than its intended recipient(s). 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Terms of Use . edesigned%20individual%20mail%20v1> Send us Feedback .. __,_._,___ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 24 06:34:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF8A743242 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 06:34:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (isis.mit.edu [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1EA3434C6 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 06:09:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r9OC7k5m005888; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 08:07:47 -0400 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 08:07:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Mike Moore References: <001b01ced0a4$d9048890$8b0d99b0$@net> Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 112 Year Old Ford Race Car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Kool video. I'm biting my tongue though. I'm not a big Henry Ford fan. But he understood the value of marketing, which that clip is heavy on. We can leave it at that. rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 24 07:00:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236D243653 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 07:00:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f169.google.com (mail-we0-f169.google.com [74.125.82.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439C840439 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 06:38:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-we0-f169.google.com with SMTP id q58so2276702wes.14 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 05:37:11 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=WkeIU5WX7/wgtCJyhdLqm9+dyIm0b/6WScxF3X+0VZg=; b=dzmFEzvQAJCAueCe1AtM7piQBMBBdnvTdBK4GagUVo8d4GEPdlrMn+Z628K8xyX9Ex vtTGgHZvDEhQnJxteK3l2x0kKCZI/OtlmIsE90xaL7lFXnUF3NPtfKnfD9Q1j5xAP4ku oY6HUtyPqdYEV+en0CJMg6tnU4kN8m8VzwuYlNOd1EkqGHZ3sPJBsqzGBhWxz66WFN0f s8hlQUe3KfMjfiSkbfesCUE0kKBfZ8Khi1iGxV/fC9y6qaISbCsdttZkumirFIWUcNF6 JRlB5IQBaP56NYBS1TFrly39RhVOqsNefzhFul3KAc43BgsGfpbwVxyn4pu2aZP16URE PNTQ== fa9mr2398769wjc.29.1382618231441; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 05:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.97.136 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 05:37:11 -0700 (PDT) References: <001b01ced0a4$d9048890$8b0d99b0$@net> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 08:37:11 -0400 From: Robert Deanes To: "Robert M. Lang" Cc: FoT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] 112 Year Old Ford Race Car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net very good, thanks for sharing On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Robert M. Lang wrote: > Kool video. > > I'm biting my tongue though. I'm not a big Henry Ford fan. But he > understood the value of marketing, which that clip is heavy on. > > We can leave it at that. > > rml > ------------------------------**------------------------------** > --------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > ------------------------------**------------------------------** > --------------- > > ______________________________**_________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 25 06:22:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A551043538 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 06:22:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (isis.mit.edu [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B4B04285B for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 06:15:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r9PCEu46009143 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 08:14:56 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 08:14:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Weathers Big TR Front Axles Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, Due to (blah blah blah blah) finally getting around to installing my Weathers axles. I have on hand both the 2004 set and a set of the newer ones that Uncle Jack had made up. I recall that there was an "issue" with the elastic stop nuts provided in the Weathers kit and used to secure the stub axle to the vertical link and that was that the nuts are too tall hence the elastic stop ring doesn't contact the threads on the stub axle. I assembled everything and observed it to be the case. The question is: for folks running the original stub axles - did you replace the elastic stop nut with a regular grade 8 nut and washer or did you just Loctite the provided nut? Conversely, the Uncle Jack kit uses a regular fine thread grade 8 nut and washer and it looks like the threaded portion is a "skosh" longer than the original Weathers axles. If you're running the later setup, did you switch to an elastic stop nut or did you install the grade 8 nut/washer and red Loctite as suggested in the installation instructions. I think I know the answers, but I wanted to toss this out there just for the heck of it. On a similar vein - the Weathers kit D washer for the outer bearing seems a little small compared to the stock D washer and the one in the Uncle Jack kit - has anyone had any "issues" with it? I (again) suspect "no", but I wanted to hear any discussion. And, yes, I'm a bit behind on my projects. :-) rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 25 09:27:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E044369E for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 09:27:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-ss-1194.bluehost.com (outbound-ss-1194.bluehost.com [74.220.211.4]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 220D34054A for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 09:06:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 24613 invoked by uid 0); 25 Oct 2013 14:58:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO just64.justhost.com) (173.254.28.64) by oproxy1.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 25 Oct 2013 14:58:52 -0000 Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=56878 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VZiqi-0004Io-3O; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 08:58:52 -0600 Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 09:58:51 -0500 To: "Robert M. Lang" ,fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews References: {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] Weathers Big TR Front Axles Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I know a little about this one... :) For the kits where the elastic stop ring doesn't have enough grip on the threads, you can just loktite the original nut, no need to replace it. For the kits where there ARE enough threads to engage the elastic, no loktite is needed if using a nut with the elastic stop ring, if using a non-stop ring nut, loktite it. The D washers from the original Weathers axles and the ones from the latest Uncle Jack axles aren't interchangeable, most likely. The Weathers kit D washer worked OK for most folks - the issues folks had with those were what I'd consider minor, and were related to high torque values and frequent "messing with", I believe. There were a few design changes through the various production runs. The threaded portion on the inner end of the axle was made longer to better engage the elastic stop ring. The D groove on the outer end of the axle was made deeper and larger, thicker D washers were included due to some reports of the D washer twisting enough to engage the threads somewhat and being hard to remove. Most recently the D washer material was changed to hardened steel to improve longevity. I certainly won't be offended if others chime in with their experience, good or bad. Cheers, Tony Drews At 07:14 AM 10/25/2013, Robert M. Lang wrote: >Hi, > >Due to (blah blah blah blah) finally getting around to installing my >Weathers axles. I have on hand both the 2004 set and a set of the >newer ones that Uncle Jack had made up. > >I recall that there was an "issue" with the elastic stop nuts >provided in the Weathers kit and used to secure the stub axle to the >vertical link and that was that the nuts are too tall hence the >elastic stop ring doesn't contact the threads on the stub axle. I >assembled everything and observed it to be the case. > >The question is: for folks running the original stub axles - did you >replace the elastic stop nut with a regular grade 8 nut and washer >or did you just Loctite the provided nut? Conversely, the Uncle Jack >kit uses a regular fine thread grade 8 nut and washer and it looks >like the threaded portion is a "skosh" longer than the original >Weathers axles. If you're running the later setup, did you switch to >an elastic stop nut or did you install the grade 8 nut/washer and >red Loctite as suggested in the installation instructions. > >I think I know the answers, but I wanted to toss this out there just >for the heck of it. > >On a similar vein - the Weathers kit D washer for the outer bearing >seems a little small compared to the stock D washer and the one in >the Uncle Jack kit - has anyone had any "issues" with it? I (again) >suspect "no", but I wanted to hear any discussion. > >And, yes, I'm a bit behind on my projects. > >:-) > >rml >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent >Former NER Solo Chair | >Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 26 16:38:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F365E4308F for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 16:38:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726FD42EF3 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 15:47:32 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=JhEuJ7dQJSmcYfoyUqr+e6vmecz2J1eq9Rc0Owpp4pNDTDKoGKQyfDgPGHEKIyMR; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.38] (helo=elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1VaBgd-0001aV-8K for fot@autox.team.net; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 17:46:23 -0400 Received: from 108.64.186.7 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 17:46:22 -0400 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 14:46:22 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: steve To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Dialing in more rear brakes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Friends, I've recently added dual-circuit brakes with a Tilton balance bar assembly to my TR3 and I can't seem to get enough rear brakes. I'm looking for some advice. Here's what I have done so far: Installed balance bar with front and rear Master Cyl's 2.5" apart. The pushrods are parallel to each other. Both Master Cyl's were .750 I'm not running any residual pressure valves. The pedal felt like a brick so I switched to two .625 MC's. The pedal feel was much better but still, even with the adjustment to full rear, the rears were barely starting to drag when the fronts were biting. I switched the rear Cyl to .700 and, same thing. The rears just start to hook up when the fronts can not be turned by hand. Next, I switched the rear cyl to .750 and it feels the same. All of my testing is up on jackstands in the garage. I'm racing next weekend. I've played with adjusting the pushrod lengths so that the balance bar is parallel during full braking as illustrated in the Tilton instruction sheet. Overall, the brakes work well but I can't figure this one out on my own. Any ideas? ~STEVE _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 26 17:23:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185E94351F for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 17:23:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s32.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s32.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.107]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB19E4043C for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 16:20:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-DS18 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s32.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 26 Oct 2013 15:16:26 -0700 From: Marty To: "FOT " Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 18:16:25 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7SmAeJG9F9yN07QBSkxMyY0tu2QQ== Content-Language: en-us FILETIME=[030BD760:01CED299] Subject: [Fot] Well that could have caused a problem. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I was changing the oil in the Spitfire before I tuck it away for the winter. As I was pouring the new green oil in I happen to notice a void at the rear of the rocker shaft where the screw is supposed to be. Crap! It had fallen out at some point at R.A. (or I got lucky and it was as I was pulling it off the trailer at home, riiiight.) Luckily it was laying on that little web just above the tappets, no damage done. I would prefer not to look down there and see this again. You guys doing anything special here? A little blue loctite possibly? Thanks, Marty _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 26 21:42:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DCC437A1 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 21:42:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE264430D5 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 21:16:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from OwnerPC ([unknown] [173.49.184.2]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MVB00FDJ50O1090@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 22:14:49 -0500 (CDT) From: "Richard Good" To: "steve" , "FOT" References: <9813068.1382823982844.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 23:14:50 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] Dialing in more rear brakes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Steve, You are going the wrong way. To bias more toward the rear you need the smaller MC for the rear to increase the hydraulic pressure and the larger MC for the front to reduce the front pressure. Richard Good -------------------------------------------------- From: "steve" Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 5:46 PM To: "FOT" Subject: [Fot] Dialing in more rear brakes > Friends, > > I've recently added dual-circuit brakes with a Tilton balance bar assembly > to my TR3 and I can't seem to get enough rear brakes. I'm looking for some > advice. > > Here's what I have done so far: > > Installed balance bar with front and rear Master Cyl's 2.5" apart. The > pushrods are parallel to each other. Both Master Cyl's were .750 I'm not > running any residual pressure valves. > > The pedal felt like a brick so I switched to two .625 MC's. The pedal > feel was much better but still, even with the adjustment to full rear, the > rears were barely starting to drag when the fronts were biting. > > I switched the rear Cyl to .700 and, same thing. The rears just start to > hook up when the fronts can not be turned by hand. > > Next, I switched the rear cyl to .750 and it feels the same. All of my > testing is up on jackstands in the garage. I'm racing next weekend. > > I've played with adjusting the pushrod lengths so that the balance bar is > parallel during full braking as illustrated in the Tilton instruction > sheet. > > Overall, the brakes work well but I can't figure this one out on my own. > > Any ideas? > > ~STEVE _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 26 22:39:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B02438A7 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 22:39:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f53.google.com (mail-pb0-f53.google.com [209.85.160.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B73442EFB for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 22:25:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pb0-f53.google.com with SMTP id up7so5017183pbc.26 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 21:23:33 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=w1BqFQZe9VRHLUmYM3ALxhRDpL8pc0O/U/baa8eQ0TI=; b=MBiMiG5vxxbnmpY/rv99gSN06J/sXv/b3uPoouI61rAQTCSf9VVP060m8BwWk+2OVf Y43VsJ93lK+ZzwdimO0qR5wZJM4lSV0f4D9fOFrbz5fciWd40Sw98a+tsPkz8pKA5mva T9yIj3NBZccxD4TVQ+glQFVguOhfV8Rv5KW5n3996ecsTAo8ss1PeSUFkj490LEtV+hl Ac4bgz4hjKqYb4ilc6fe4lfihVnYaplkU1fswSVDCn2QB5cYZdclwo4Sb0qrRh2Fe832 cwwdvz2Dy8W4xuw1rt98KCJJDMz/87e4Jrd/urcE5X6Osq0UzWJCvVt5wc5N8ddS/xbh VNqg== sr7mr34113pbc.159.1382847813156; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 21:23:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.8.37 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 21:23:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.8.37 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 21:23:33 -0700 (PDT) References: <9813068.1382823982844.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 21:23:33 -0700 From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" To: Good Cc: Friends Subject: Re: [Fot] Dialing in more rear brakes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net And at full depression the balance bar should be parallel with the firewall. This is done by changing the relative lengths of the cylinder rods. The balance rod should be shorter on the rear side so it gets pressure first. I use .625 rear and .7 front. On Oct 26, 2013 8:53 PM, "Richard Good" wrote: > Steve, > > You are going the wrong way. To bias more toward the rear you need the > smaller MC for the rear to increase the hydraulic pressure and the larger > MC for the front to reduce the front pressure. > > Richard Good > > ------------------------------**-------------------- > From: "steve" > Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 5:46 PM > To: "FOT" > Subject: [Fot] Dialing in more rear brakes > > Friends, >> >> I've recently added dual-circuit brakes with a Tilton balance bar >> assembly to my TR3 and I can't seem to get enough rear brakes. I'm looking >> for some advice. >> >> Here's what I have done so far: >> >> Installed balance bar with front and rear Master Cyl's 2.5" apart. The >> pushrods are parallel to each other. Both Master Cyl's were .750 I'm not >> running any residual pressure valves. >> >> The pedal felt like a brick so I switched to two .625 MC's. The pedal >> feel was much better but still, even with the adjustment to full rear, the >> rears were barely starting to drag when the fronts were biting. >> >> I switched the rear Cyl to .700 and, same thing. The rears just start to >> hook up when the fronts can not be turned by hand. >> >> Next, I switched the rear cyl to .750 and it feels the same. All of my >> testing is up on jackstands in the garage. I'm racing next weekend. >> >> I've played with adjusting the pushrod lengths so that the balance bar is >> parallel during full braking as illustrated in the Tilton instruction sheet. >> >> Overall, the brakes work well but I can't figure this one out on my own. >> >> Any ideas? >> >> ~STEVE >> > ______________________________**_________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/fot/triosan@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 27 09:36:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8438543066 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 09:36:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f180.google.com (mail-ie0-f180.google.com [209.85.223.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B3C43232 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 09:11:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f180.google.com with SMTP id e14so9284662iej.25 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 08:10:18 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=RT0bRFWJCFWDFie51cFqRLjhl2pv+JPWNaba66L4oL0=; b=fzSwvCGv0o7ub0cueylZR1tlOx5/wHNWXC42QfYiQ32IdWXw0f/zabCzHcakRPzExn 6c00wA2txd4ss3S53ihQEgYrWfDfVmdWQ44as67va3RftlcLUPi6yijaf8qSBU/8K3k1 LG/InOzFV7Q/dBonbFBUiwF04sBdeAtK4D4wG+LpdURBPvW8TkWwG9geq6S039NQif8h 8o34HImJEPtYTkmh6h6srlwiLYe2+sNVYWe81v/5I+45Jih+iS6/Odcy6Ligc+UiirUn h0oHOawpyK8d3i3Cdpgrv0Xg8+pmB9NlbjAiusKOU5DZ26iXtW5vcAUo/LjQjiKTbvLd HC2Q== ob14mr1088611igb.22.1382886618326; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 08:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.43.44.135 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 08:10:18 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 11:10:18 -0400 From: John Styduhar To: Marty Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Well that could have caused a problem. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It's convenient that the oil fill cap on the aftermarket valve cover for the four pot is located directly above this screw, so it should be SOP to check (and tighten if needed) whenever the cap is removed. Users of the stock cover don't have this advantage. Loctite blue is added insurance. Keep an extra one in your small parts bin on when you're on the road. That's what I do. On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Marty wrote: > I was changing the oil in the Spitfire before I tuck it away for the > winter. > As I was pouring the new green oil in I happen to notice a void at the rear > of the rocker shaft where the screw is supposed to be. Crap! It had fallen > out at some point at R.A. (or I got lucky and it was as I was pulling it > off > the trailer at home, riiiight.) Luckily it was laying on that little web > just above the tappets, no damage done. I would prefer not to look down > there and see this again. You guys doing anything special here? A little > blue loctite possibly? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Marty > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 27 10:27:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8870C43919 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:27:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from tr.ccfot.com (wsip-98-174-80-205.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1BF43141 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:07:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B13A4C091; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 12:05:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tr.ccfot.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tr.ccfot.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kelukkFmzYgy; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 12:05:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from HENRYPRECISION (wsip-98-174-80-202.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.202]) (Authenticated sender: yellow04@tr4racer.com) by tr.ccfot.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D1730A4C08B; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 12:05:54 -0400 (EDT) From: To: Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 12:05:55 -0400 Cc: S Francis Subject: [Fot] Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I would like to nominate and introduce to the group Steve Francis. Steve had been an SVRA member since 1989 and raced in Group 6 and Group 8. Two years ago he bought from a friend who was the original owner/racer from new a '66 TR4A IRS car that raced Lime Rock, Bridgehampton, Thompson and Marlboro during 1966-69. It then became a street car accumulating almost 100,000 miles on the original engine. Other than the suspension it's more a street car than race car. He preferred to not modify it for current vintage racing so he just bought my yellow TR4. So Steve owns a TR4 with real race history that is just too neat a piece to cut into to make an all out racer, and now he will be joining us on the vintage circuit with my old car. Do I hear a second? Steve Francis sfran@earthlink.net Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 27 10:57:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4FB0438E6 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:57:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f179.google.com (mail-ie0-f179.google.com [209.85.223.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E09438FC for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:33:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f179.google.com with SMTP id aq17so9625690iec.38 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 09:32:01 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :references:in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:cc:from :date:content-type:mime-version; bh=PeDY2EEIWWZDv61uC9GzyLoDc5bEAMLM14NZaT429ZM=; b=E6ElLNNDDt9aS/FScMi5N8mSdnUjx0QD30OcJhRsSNJbY1IHjYVt9CAbPMjf0wRok9 yBob7yl/K2UrlzIvrkUY/B8Ex/tTxPsjQBFe5b7oGv7YjA/DZwqIx6e7E7pOiljciI2+ BheEm669Xe8CGGxbXOzbPyBdA9YBFe60iN3ZlsDpieugSISD0C7Gi4B9ygojqesnWoeC kAflFgR3sjl7u58np87yYSzhVdDSIm9cBNNeLSqe1MTMLm2Jy0arvAcyO9Xxd3Q7wunX U+eA6q46/0qb1wi5zuae4+IUxg5tSva8y7GQaFco7lAwBsrnmFyNMRTMd0Q48RBryIjk iWvQ== zs6mr11115341icb.33.1382891521411; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 09:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.187 (bda-74-82-80-176.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i3sm14988263igh.0.2013.10.27.09.32.00 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 27 Oct 2013 09:32:00 -0700 (PDT) References: <8EAB07B1CB0043269BB09BCB1B579CAA@TRIUMPH.local> Sensitivity: Normal To: yellow04@tr4racer.com,fot-bounces@autox.team.net,fot@autox.team.net From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 16:32:00 +0000 Cc: S Francis Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net He picked a great car! good for both of you. Second! Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: To: Cc: S Francis Subject: [Fot] Nomination I would like to nominate and introduce to the group Steve Francis. Steve had been an SVRA member since 1989 and raced in Group 6 and Group 8. Two years ago he bought from a friend who was the original owner/racer from new a '66 TR4A IRS car that raced Lime Rock, Bridgehampton, Thompson and Marlboro during 1966-69. It then became a street car accumulating almost 100,000 miles on the original engine. Other than the suspension it's more a street car than race car. He preferred to not modify it for current vintage racing so he just bought my yellow TR4. So Steve owns a TR4 with real race history that is just too neat a piece to cut into to make an all out racer, and now he will be joining us on the vintage circuit with my old car. Do I hear a second? Steve Francis sfran@earthlink.net Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 27 11:17:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41DC4425B for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 11:17:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d10.mx.aol.com (omr-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC244423D for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:59:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by omr-d10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A22357003F621; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 12:57:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mta004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mta004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.141]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 7BE54E000081; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 12:57:50 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 12:57:50 -0400 (EDT) To: yellow04@tr4racer.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1382893070; bh=q6WbmP5OTv62eWRXkBqvMM7/fUcSS970tJfKHj4taHY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gWhr7mFp5FpmpW4T04EufnGV7yy46tLo0yqBMb28QRZP2WYjjN2rY269PQExEO7D7 lc3OXMc9oPaIUAV8lHikIhvKBut32WV6Ux13Finy1/3ZrqsjcnYZj8pF99JknTDB9a VrWUuct1x+Hdt9hqC46wB5W3iMjoAy86rajAHiGE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c526d460e1e8e Cc: sfran@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Second. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 27 11:18:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC90C442BE for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 11:18:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc3-s28.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc3-s28.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB86442AB for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 11:03:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-DS48 ([65.55.116.74]) by blu0-omc3-s28.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 27 Oct 2013 09:59:23 -0700 From: Marty To: , References: <8EAB07B1CB0043269BB09BCB1B579CAA@TRIUMPH.local> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 12:59:23 -0400 Thread-index: AQGMY7pDVjnmS5HueWl3NBI3kw2uhZqNpBWg Content-Language: en-us FILETIME=[E3120720:01CED335] Cc: 'S Francis' Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Second for sure. Welcome Steve. Marty -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of yellow04@tr4racer.com Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 12:06 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Cc: S Francis Subject: [Fot] Nomination I would like to nominate and introduce to the group Steve Francis. Steve had been an SVRA member since 1989 and raced in Group 6 and Group 8. Two years ago he bought from a friend who was the original owner/racer from new a '66 TR4A IRS car that raced Lime Rock, Bridgehampton, Thompson and Marlboro during 1966-69. It then became a street car accumulating almost 100,000 miles on the original engine. Other than the suspension it's more a street car than race car. He preferred to not modify it for current vintage racing so he just bought my yellow TR4. So Steve owns a TR4 with real race history that is just too neat a piece to cut into to make an all out racer, and now he will be joining us on the vintage circuit with my old car. Do I hear a second? Steve Francis sfran@earthlink.net Henry yellow04@tr4racer.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 27 15:32:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1638B431E1 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 15:32:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d08.mx.aol.com (omr-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.207]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0289643143 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 15:07:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.130]) by omr-d08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 989D0700028D8 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 17:06:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 1CAE9E000498 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 17:06:09 -0400 (EDT) References: From: Joe Alexander Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 16:06:09 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1382907969; bh=l1d+AeCOr8hFpyMYYxrNC+rGpIG6YBXtTkB56Nz5/pg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=i2jQNw36OqvXivclgGr5JIAWzcI/oCqbH73NQ8dl5oOHuSeT29gI1pADTDhLickLY Fpi/F5w/Gx2Me+DMsCstsWC3OF5MrKzJZGIcfKoAT0tBCtKDe2V8U5czBApfC7E8pm 0xcBXRquaoGq0KBrg1ExHQXlO8AA6y0Phwj/UBMs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d3382526d80405a6f Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_Josh_Files=2C_Massimilano_Pedal=C3=A0_and_?= =?utf-8?q?Nicolas_Milan_set_for_=28=2E=2E=2E=29_-_Renault_Sport_-_Renault?= =?utf-8?q?_Group_motorsport_website?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Files update...... One cup down in the UK. Winner Josh Files The Europe Cup at stake with Josh with a 11 point lead. His to lose. Next week will be exciting. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Keith Files > Date: October 27, 2013 at 3:54:51 PM CDT > > Subject: Josh Files, Massimilano PedalC and Nicolas Milan set for (...) - Renault Sport - Renault Group motorsport website > > > Please feel free to share this link. > > http://www.renaultsport.com/Josh-Files-Massimilano-Pedala-and.html > > Keith. > > Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 27 19:38:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57AF34351C for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 19:38:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F0643157 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 19:02:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iNHK1m0011HzFnQ55Qxd7u; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 00:57:37 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.139] ([69.250.17.197]) by omta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iQxd1m0094F6tot3aQxd4v; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 00:57:37 +0000 References: <8EAB07B1CB0043269BB09BCB1B579CAA@TRIUMPH.local> From: Steven Groh Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 20:57:36 -0400 To: "" s=q20121106; t=1382921857; bh=gMZVehLN2EfJMxqco8NPIXtoAfoinoEPMXlOAOcmaJU=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=aHxmsq7j81QfKOiAOyeTjwHlZAB1HiYUQZmqK96g9a2ezKaQEtLMVPPJUd34TVtYZ YRodwAZIUjfC8anXIiII9pEec39JbBxHQ5upmMn37/dOe8eZgVCYDMgrMX67C0OzmM 7fYylsxRMN4DZsOIfisrG26TOjQ6mfeiS95lgmpWPoHyVm9rpD6V2b1Aq4ZpE9wr7Y KwGzDxqx2FJUXHmEhV+M3MBlgRO1gmBIdIokkAyS0v2LLfK59yV1q4Xk0gzbLA3si5 cWmCjwWrYDIeSwt8zmRZB5u41vqopWlBvUVsvb9BQyjtnEbdudNyOivoxTGLDRhOeu olaUMSC+buPsw== Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, indeed!! Here's a second!! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 27, 2013, at 12:05 PM, wrote: > I would like to nominate and introduce to the group Steve Francis. Steve had > been an SVRA member since 1989 and raced in Group 6 and Group 8. Two years > ago he bought from a friend who was the original owner/racer from new a '66 > TR4A IRS car that raced Lime Rock, Bridgehampton, Thompson and Marlboro > during 1966-69. It then became a street car accumulating almost 100,000 > miles on the original engine. Other than the suspension it's more a street > car than race car. He preferred to not modify it for current vintage racing > so he just bought my yellow TR4. > > So Steve owns a TR4 with real race history that is just too neat a piece to > cut into to make an all out racer, and now he will be joining us on the > vintage circuit with my old car. > > Do I hear a second? > > Steve Francis > sfran@earthlink.net > > Henry > yellow04@tr4racer.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sgroh1@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 27 21:45:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B0744383 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 21:45:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD4AC42F97 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 21:19:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.51]) by qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iTFA1m00316LCl055THRSx; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 03:17:25 +0000 Received: from ComputerPC ([71.60.181.57]) by omta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iTHR1m0051EiJYf3STHRwe; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 03:17:25 +0000 From: "Stutzmans" To: , References: <8EAB07B1CB0043269BB09BCB1B579CAA@TRIUMPH.local> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 23:17:28 -0400 s=q20121106; t=1382930245; bh=1cgURqIPKD962hztNjkK2GW4ktfmnPjrK5io6+vzrtY=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=Ke5Nhd1rQDfeb63HefGs6Vyt7rNJmGvLvWkqItNRoYSgkIXWKSv/UGRuEW7kK81+5 /lg+oTuEQw39ocaxwwyVHwLabe2y7UyUXijWGabce2r0j7I9g8jqnNLdrVxlvH0TAg 71awoXk5uBrAAKl7+QLQtBT0p2xGzkZTs7hVLS2bFqLhZ70pZKukDKl/Yumn7/6owg dWHj+gw6UPrNXpXDy14c0t9w9/pjqgc07XWiUB4ABr+IuzXsgxVKdEhFqpVrqWD2wK l9FBdf9gTioJ8BjY2rTUHTbicVXIKSBopBR/KQXSAgOAjji6ln0tp0jqQVlpJymQ26 +3z8czVjxiXIA== Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Second for Steve Francis. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: "S Francis" Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 12:05 PM Subject: [Fot] Nomination >I would like to nominate and introduce to the group Steve Francis. Steve >had been an SVRA member since 1989 and raced in Group 6 and Group 8. Two >years ago he bought from a friend who was the original owner/racer from new >a '66 TR4A IRS car that raced Lime Rock, Bridgehampton, Thompson and >Marlboro during 1966-69. It then became a street car accumulating almost >100,000 miles on the original engine. Other than the suspension it's more a >street car than race car. He preferred to not modify it for current vintage >racing so he just bought my yellow TR4. > > So Steve owns a TR4 with real race history that is just too neat a piece > to cut into to make an all out racer, and now he will be joining us on the > vintage circuit with my old car. > > Do I hear a second? > > Steve Francis > sfran@earthlink.net > > Henry > yellow04@tr4racer.com _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/stutzmans@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 28 08:42:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C6243922 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 08:42:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail202c2.megamailservers.com (mail202c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AF1E42FB2 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 08:11:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail202c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r9SEAAPS016942; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 10:10:17 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: "'Richard Good'" , "'steve'" , "'FOT'" References: <9813068.1382823982844.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 10:10:09 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7SxnZGtgt7/qUERYuvTGp7t1ollQBIMESQ a=y63cl0AFbs4A:10 a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:17 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=5Up8faWwAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=7FdzW8_zzQ2_zmIcJ3wA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=v6MMM96S_sUA:10 a=gwe64adLyKt5zAJ6:21 a=D8lWcrzIPuBa0DMe:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] Dialing in more rear brakes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We use a Wellwood MC with dual chambers and a proportional valve....works great. John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Good Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:15 PM To: steve; FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Dialing in more rear brakes Steve, You are going the wrong way. To bias more toward the rear you need the smaller MC for the rear to increase the hydraulic pressure and the larger MC for the front to reduce the front pressure. Richard Good -------------------------------------------------- From: "steve" Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 5:46 PM To: "FOT" Subject: [Fot] Dialing in more rear brakes > Friends, > > I've recently added dual-circuit brakes with a Tilton balance bar > assembly to my TR3 and I can't seem to get enough rear brakes. I'm > looking for some advice. > > Here's what I have done so far: > > Installed balance bar with front and rear Master Cyl's 2.5" apart. > The pushrods are parallel to each other. Both Master Cyl's were .750 > I'm not running any residual pressure valves. > > The pedal felt like a brick so I switched to two .625 MC's. The pedal > feel was much better but still, even with the adjustment to full rear, > the rears were barely starting to drag when the fronts were biting. > > I switched the rear Cyl to .700 and, same thing. The rears just start > to hook up when the fronts can not be turned by hand. > > Next, I switched the rear cyl to .750 and it feels the same. All of > my testing is up on jackstands in the garage. I'm racing next weekend. > > I've played with adjusting the pushrod lengths so that the balance bar > is parallel during full braking as illustrated in the Tilton > instruction sheet. > > Overall, the brakes work well but I can't figure this one out on my own. > > Any ideas? > > ~STEVE _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 28 09:39:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E3B44372 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 09:39:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f48.google.com (mail-oa0-f48.google.com [209.85.219.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF90842F91 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 09:11:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id m17so3661704oag.21 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 08:10:19 -0700 (PDT) h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version; bh=PHYrjH3CmJ21k9jH9J0z9M/kIHTs6NF8A3PjU5oDvRk=; b=rOpR0J8kfb5kOAS37JvGgeaYH0sLK9xN7xKQLnnfaYIvJW84HB2I6iklPvwazSbnrZ EIp7+7RFEwe74LaMfZYp+jW4urNYYnV3ynYqLW+BI9Wk6TUylJhT85+NDfruVz93sRMe +lB31T4dfSZC0UlBijercJBmqbfzE98JkNsZN9eXysl80ItWMWAJLaqjrAMOS6FbPkk9 cdGb0LNSB9z2DI+1kxs8itj3+Wvk97rwAsVahDlYuKO8PlUzoStFxypoHFTEx+P3FJEb pH2Nsg/M0x1qu7R0Wa5+btOvciIf03JPR2ARP3IL/jJL90nIA8XG+fINUxV5f4T6Ci0B GE3w== Mon, 28 Oct 2013 08:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id xq4sm33611344oeb.3.2013.10.28.08.02.55 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 28 Oct 2013 08:02:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 10:02:54 -0500 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] CotA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It was great fun learning the F1 track at Circuit of the Americas. I ran the 1952 Morgan Plus 4with the pre-war cars with a field of under 20 cars during all track sessions, but the TRs were running in a group of 46 during the feature race, having had to practice with up to 53 cars (one of the enduro races had 59 cars on the track). I had a great view of two post-war Talbot Lagos, a 1925 Bugatti 35A Grand Prix, a 1939 V12 Lagonda LeMans replica, three MG N-types, Tony Parella's '34 Chevrolet, a Miller-Ford Indy car, a pair of Morgan 3-wheelers, a 1951 Morgan Plus 4, a 1962 Dolphin, and a 1911 National (complete with riding mechanic), which ran in the first Indy race 102 years ago. Best lap I managed was 3.00.804 but the 1939 Maserati 4CL was able to post a 2.57.183 and the 1.5 liter 1957 F2 Cooper T43 a 2.58.475. Thankfully the track was barely moist by 2pm race time after a couple of inches of rain fell the night before. Greg Blake managed a 2.59.687 in the crowded Gp 3 field during their feature race in his silver TR3. Duncan Elgin, TX _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 28 13:44:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D176244552 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 13:44:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d04.mx.aol.com (omr-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.201]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708364302E for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 12:50:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.201]) by omr-d04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id C79AC700000BB for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 14:47:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dbc004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dbc004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.48.199]) by mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id A0CCCE000082 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 14:47:50 -0400 (EDT) From: JandJalford@aol.com Full-name: JandJalford Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 14:47:50 -0400 (EDT) To: FOT@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1382986070; bh=Xsg8W08/4XzMdBJ1DcYuhyAir02eOZJsIyN3JRiLVl4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=a3ogMTZjBef5e2RIgHSlaeLnymQFHFKwdAh7jflD8hGCTaFBgsWrpiRfrWEnixc3v IJesHT7vHcFMb5enEmR05/MIeJuVyxKVISuCRMau5JAJ71a4kaBvfhnJ+hApt8deTp yZQOLYTvjYRMOcypmBExQBF7lI5osa9phFZROssg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c9526eb15604e4 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: E-Mails Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net ____________________________________ From: JandJalford@aol.com To: FOT@autox.team.net Sent: 10/22/2013 12:14:13 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time Subj: [Fot] E-Mails Please remove me from your e-mail list. Thank you Jerry Alford _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jandjalford@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 28 14:46:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B2E4452A for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 14:46:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc2-s11.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s11.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE0A445EB for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 14:25:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY403-EAS247 ([65.54.190.124]) by bay0-omc2-s11.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 28 Oct 2013 13:24:13 -0700 From: Rich Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 16:24:37 -0400 To: "fot@autox.team.net" FILETIME=[AAED7FA0:01CED41B] Subject: [Fot] Spitfire For Sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net http://eauclaire.craigslist.org/cto/4154990742.html Good for a chuckle. NFI Rich Rock _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 28 15:13:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F48042FC9 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 15:13:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d03.mx.aol.com (omr-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 369DC435B9 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 14:53:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.3]) by omr-d03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6446E70149B9D for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 16:44:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 190DAE0000E8; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 16:44:15 -0400 (EDT) References: <84e1.d24c81.3fa00b56@aol.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 15:44:13 -0500 To: "JandJalford@aol.com" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1382993055; bh=srjZtvn8CA70p+Wv/GmeyS4YGQjdFpcEYPGwNcsiZMk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=QU9DUYT7SDNGPQfMvRGWzlcPM7Z9ZOro7YI3jwQcGzaVeranMC46tXoYE4kC4gMzY IQGrs0qmajdMUNZIbLR396sEtXutzulWXXxrwB3RTwEHGGPyEdXzwE+P5WrVkbJOu2 UgB+b/gmYpIYCBUQKJWMRUz12kZQxaFa53f8hTLg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2903526ecc9f70ea Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: E-Mails Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Jerry, There is an "unsubscribe manager" at the bottom of this page. Regards, Joe Sent from my iPad > On Oct 28, 2013, at 1:47 PM, JandJalford@aol.com wrote: > > ____________________________________ > From: JandJalford@aol.com > To: FOT@autox.team.net > Sent: 10/22/2013 12:14:13 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time > Subj: [Fot] E-Mails > > > Please remove me from your e-mail list. > > Thank you > Jerry Alford > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jandjalford@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 28 18:02:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67405446B4 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 18:02:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m06.mx.aol.com (omr-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9FE44659 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 17:29:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by omr-m06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 3F6BA700000A7 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 19:28:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dec002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dec002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.53.197]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 15A52E000089 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 19:28:29 -0400 (EDT) References: To: fot@autox.team.net From: robertten1@aol.com Received: from 74.104.136.136 by webmail-m289.sysops.aol.com (64.12.152.34) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 28 Oct 2013 19:28:29 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 19:28:29 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1383002909; bh=Bb1hyiKoxJzINg0PRmSBKQE8jWAePtkIhub0NPLdsXw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oOfere9nh4bPzeuxM/VdyqbZ7t2b4JMDnRo/HcWZdWqaj+b4SJJEw9Up3I+PaZ8wc oC8ndHuFk/noRML67U9S2Bd7ng30CMTV2ljM03dB+YyuCvV20Grt6qc1MwAkwvf2iN I/0T7bhowIbWN+0b1pdGq1KthgoZ7BKYhk5Z8XHk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c526ef31d4cd7 Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire For Sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Love the BRUTAL honesty Bob T -----Original Message----- From: Rich To: fot Sent: Mon, Oct 28, 2013 4:45 pm Subject: [Fot] Spitfire For Sale http://eauclaire.craigslist.org/cto/4154990742.html Good for a chuckle. NFI Rich Rock _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 28 19:58:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19821435CD for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 19:58:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com (outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com [64.136.47.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 7416D435D0 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 18:59:47 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1383008252; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=r1FJud2I+Qz97JuEqH+JQl85Ik40kwM/rtbQmcwGeruOemZdNj6HhPcXFWeeDIazp vLiYbzxcEx6hmMQR3ldGLSEbr3vKPvkkP4Ib0NOQN50TzY3Z+TMrKjjX3qVdjXcHmJ FSp/3mwDK2HULryMgsbNIIIe3OL0fJ/FInSxvV4U= Received: from outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com (webmail10.dca.untd.com [10.171.12.150]) by smtpout03.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABKG8B9BA4UNZV2 for (sender ); Mon, 28 Oct 2013 17:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [76.23.185.62] by webmail10.dca.untd.com with HTTP: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 00:56:46 GMT From: "Joe Boruch" Full-Name: "Joe Boruch" Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 00:56:46 GMT To: colordog.1@earthlink.net Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Dialing in more rear brakes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Have you tried a residual pressure valve for the rear? When i had rear drums I used a Wilwood 10 psi residual pressure valve. A RPV won't change the bias, but will keep the wheel cylinders from retracting so far, so that the rear brakes come in sooner. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: steve To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Dialing in more rear brakes Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 14:46:22 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Friends, I've recently added dual-circuit brakes with a Tilton balance bar assembly to my TR3 and I can't seem to get enough rear brakes. I'm looking for some advice. Here's what I have done so far: Installed balance bar with front and rear Master Cyl's 2.5" apart. The pushrods are parallel to each other. Both Master Cyl's were .750 I'm not running any residual pressure valves. The pedal felt like a brick so I switched to two .625 MC's. The pedal feel was much better but still, even with the adjustment to full rear, the rears were barely starting to drag when the fronts were biting. I switched the rear Cyl to .700 and, same thing. The rears just start to hook up when the fronts can not be turned by hand. Next, I switched the rear cyl to .750 and it feels the same. All of my testing is up on jackstands in the garage. I'm racing next weekend. I've played with adjusting the pushrod lengths so that the balance bar is parallel during full braking as illustrated in the Tilton instruction sheet. Overall, the brakes work well but I can't figure this one out on my own. Any ideas? ~STEVE _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net ____________________________________________________________ 30-second trick for a flat belly This daily 30-second trick BOOSTS your body's #1 fat-burning hormone http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/526f07e1e14f67e1534fst03duc _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 28 22:05:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED5D435AC for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 22:05:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B8F430B3 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 21:41:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [65.29.157.118] ([65.29.157.118:42376] helo=[10.0.1.63]) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 53/98-15942-61E2F625; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 03:40:06 +0000 From: Allen Washatko To: Friends of Triumph Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 22:40:06 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Jag Brakes for a TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FoT, Any of you running Jag calipers on your TR6? I'm rebuilding calipers and need the torque values for the bolts. Thanks in advance. Allen Allen & Jody Washatko 1971 TR6 - Number 6 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 28 22:50:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 367DD435BB for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 22:50:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f52.google.com (mail-pb0-f52.google.com [209.85.160.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF1E743029 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 22:20:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pb0-f52.google.com with SMTP id rr4so5927792pbb.39 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 21:19:34 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=rOC9J04d6kVgjTu7IJeWBoFl3bc/RprAEY+19ZZhmHQ=; b=oWTKkVta9xjVZFSm6rv8AqbDZmTmiDJS68kiuaGb44B3UzGLyV5U9E/wkiGCYhjd/5 v0pjeL7E9WyjXNQfNa04EEKrkNMyUZML8XuQlSgNLGGgXcWpjov5kpPn12AKbisfudFU j7GyPUBlxwE9Vg+qHX/KmUGtxeKiLwvLLBD1TRxPkPUE0BVhuSP0omHQSfjtAkzWLLwC pYFzwRstaLOAyaEc6XBFy2Y1dJeXyxfnecQiNhwieiULt0UfopFeugj2L9lbF8hpPPiB 53T6h+NHLC10c63Fzgb1sCegrms7tHChCKt6nnH9NpNZY5l6CUDzcPoJZmnDU3WbOrFv kw2A== dl2mr24448361pbc.6.1383020374372; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 21:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.8.37 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 21:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.8.37 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 21:19:34 -0700 (PDT) References: <20131028.205646.32567.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 21:19:34 -0700 From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" To: Joe Boruch Cc: Friends Subject: Re: [Fot] Dialing in more rear brakes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I use one also On Oct 28, 2013 7:07 PM, "Joe Boruch" wrote: > Have you tried a residual pressure valve for the rear? When i had rear > drums > I used a Wilwood 10 psi residual pressure valve. A RPV won't change the > bias, > but will keep the wheel cylinders from retracting so far, so that the rear > brakes come in sooner. Joe(B) > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: steve > To: FOT > Subject: [Fot] Dialing in more rear brakes > Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 14:46:22 -0700 (GMT-07:00) > > Friends, > > I've recently added dual-circuit brakes with a Tilton balance bar assembly > to > my TR3 and I can't seem to get enough rear brakes. I'm looking for some > advice. > > Here's what I have done so far: > > Installed balance bar with front and rear Master Cyl's 2.5" apart. The > pushrods are parallel to each other. Both Master Cyl's were .750 I'm not > running any residual pressure valves. > > The pedal felt like a brick so I switched to two .625 MC's. The pedal feel > was much better but still, even with the adjustment to full rear, the rears > were barely starting to drag when the fronts were biting. > > I switched the rear Cyl to .700 and, same thing. The rears just start to > hook > up when the fronts can not be turned by hand. > > Next, I switched the rear cyl to .750 and it feels the same. All of my > testing is up on jackstands in the garage. I'm racing next weekend. > > I've played with adjusting the pushrod lengths so that the balance bar is > parallel during full braking as illustrated in the Tilton instruction > sheet. > > Overall, the brakes work well but I can't figure this one out on my own. > > Any ideas? > > ~STEVE > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch@netzero.net > > ____________________________________________________________ > 30-second trick for a flat belly > This daily 30-second trick BOOSTS your body's #1 fat-burning hormone > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/526f07e1e14f67e1534fst03duc > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 29 11:56:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C3DF430FD for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 11:56:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d03.mx.aol.com (omr-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA4F43096 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 16:11:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.195]) by omr-d03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9CD26700000A1 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 18:08:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 488EFE0000E5 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 18:08:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 17:08:30 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1382911710; bh=KD6X6zjFdp+1mtWqqQmxMGyMjseu3bZoBFqC3UA0Vtg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=c721OlLnfM+DqFzGZ3+LgYNwcbXXS8NR61n7YLetsren1QmFifv4r6dno1y07ZTP7 wslkCSFEXaBZ0RWQoaYrrJ+yqZV1z5mn5Nugtn+TXzxS0SDogLn2kulF1EUHIOs9R7 Tjn5DSXWkMeiMz4eSvT1dAFG22sFh4IoiR2Oi8/Y= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c3526d8ede2d11 Subject: [Fot] SEMA Show And Performance Racing Industries Show Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Who is going? Some of us are going to both trade shows. We may be participating with an exhibit at PRI, if we get some stuff done in time for mid-December. Jack Drews and I used to go to these. Great learning experiences, but also we had a great deal of fun. I really miss that. Hope to see some FOT folks. Joe Alexander _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 29 12:49:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD6394311F for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 12:49:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.196]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9961E4044C for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 12:43:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vwm23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (vwm23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.10.53]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0MVG0067L18A8LF0@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for FOT@autox.team.net; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 14:40:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [67.83.138.143] by webtop.webmail.optimum.net with HTTP; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 14:40:57 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 14:40:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Redmond To: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Subject: [Fot] Exhaust Header Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Friends Looking for a header for the TR3. What are you using and where did you get it? 4 into 1 is preferred Thanks Todd _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 29 13:21:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5632443228 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 13:21:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A24E4301C for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 13:21:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id j5N51m00416AWCUA97Khoj; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 19:19:41 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-208v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.176.218]) by omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id j7Kg1m00C4j68Km8S7KgBA; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 19:19:40 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 19:19:40 +0000 (UTC) From: toodamnfunky@comcast.net To: Duncan Charlton References: <59BCA8B6-D914-4242-93DC-099D7CB70098@gmail.com> (Win)/8.0.3_GA_5664) Thread-Topic: CotA Thread-Index: a4iM70i+G1/PqgA023IcrIAlEJpIMA== s=q20121106; t=1383074381; bh=ptr4bXr4vWmqV99rFu8x3H4ZlwUNVJDDYbo3f87s4aY=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=n5tOQQJZ/d7ybJjXJnQfsoZLCbdwvdAEQGdbTnesUKMrVc3Q6hy8+AAZkSW/exA2+ FpqBw8CizAI6SLSwpdZYZ5Wlhm9rsbSQPnKcJcuY4iA1Su7EHFBbUc8kmfDRO/VEEo A7t0SsqbfFeAkkiTTrarJgM4HV2jnL3NEyW8dPok3bf8KmuBtR9lHbT60EMzgxioXt JLthzkzsB/SXrbZkS1RYNaIJYxv/7sVfrayIL72HoG9LHeDl238HAZKFyrB/WxaPoX KOZ6riQ3foADQpj3aMYhsK2rFv/h6SGE+UYXbwRzHl0ukCZM2b1xHI+F3nU/PVTwDp uLnnwEK29aFeA== Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] CotA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Duncan, How many sessions did you get over the weekend & how long were they. I'm seriously considering that event for 2014 but I heard there was very little seat time. Thanks, jim g ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duncan Charlton" To: "'Friends of Triumph' Triumph" Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 9:02:54 AM Subject: [Fot] CotA It was great fun learning the F1 track at Circuit of the Americas. B I ran the 1952 Morgan Plus 4with the pre-war cars with a field of under 20 cars during all track sessions, but the TRs were running in a group of 46 during the feature race, having had to practice with up to 53 cars (one of the enduro races had 59 cars on the track). B I had a great view of two post-war Talbot Lagos, a 1925 Bugatti 35A Grand Prix, a 1939 V12 Lagonda LeMans replica, three MG N-types, Tony Parella's '34 Chevrolet, a Miller-Ford Indy car, a pair of Morgan 3-wheelers, a 1951 Morgan Plus 4, a 1962 Dolphin, and a 1911 National (complete with riding mechanic), which ran in the first Indy race 102 years ago. B Best lap I managed was 3.00.804 but the 1939 Maserati 4CL was able to post a 2.57.183 and the 1.5 liter 1957 F2 Cooper T43 a 2.58.475. B Thankfully the track was barely moist by 2pm race time after a couple of inches of rain fell the night before. B Greg Blake managed a 2.59.687 in the crowded Gp 3 field during their feature race in his silver TR3. Duncan Elgin, TX _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 29 13:36:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE4E4322C for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 13:36:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.196]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB38B4042C for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 13:36:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vwm23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (vwm23.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.10.53]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0MVG002X03PQITM0@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for FOT@autox.team.net; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 15:34:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [67.83.138.143] by webtop.webmail.optimum.net with HTTP; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 15:34:38 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 15:34:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Redmond To: john hasty References: <63718fb7.663c.1420584cb1d.Webtop.53@optonline.net> User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Exhaust Header Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Just checked the Stahl website. They have a header listed for a TR4 under the road race section at $555.00. Am i correct in assuming that the TR3 and TR4 header is the same?B This is for a race motor with a high port head. BTW The website says that they are closing the business at the end of 2013. Todd On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 02:56 PM, john hasty wrote: > Stahl...be sure and have them send the engine plate first so you can > match > to your head. Their pattern is off quite a bit. I also specified 16 > ga > tubes. They are really very nicely made and only a very slight > modification > of the frame was needed at the collector. It will cost you the > better part > of $800.00........... > > > John H. Hasty > Attorney At Law > Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. > 719 East Boulevard > Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 > Tele: (704) 372-5600 > Fax: (704) 372-4601 > E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com > www.gdhs.com > PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any > attachments) is > intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information > that > is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK > PRODUCT. > If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that > any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you > have > received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the > message > and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. > IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS > regulations > regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated > otherwise, > any tax advice contained in this communication (including any > attachments) > is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for > purposes of > (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) > promoting, > marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter > addressed herein. > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Todd Redmond > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 2:41 PM > To: FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Exhaust Header > > Friends > > > Looking for a header for the TR3. What are you using and where did you > get > it? > > > 4 into 1 is preferred > > > Thanks > Todd > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 29 13:55:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AECC343511 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 13:55:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail168c2.megamailservers.com (mail168c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3AAD43200 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 13:54:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from jhhasty ([64.128.77.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail168c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r9TIu4wB023737; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 14:56:10 -0400 From: "john hasty" To: "'Todd Redmond'" , References: <63718fb7.663c.1420584cb1d.Webtop.53@optonline.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 14:56:00 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7U12xHcK9waxU9Q2iJqiRbT/kjkQAAJDaw a=4XwCEAaBuO8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=mkkZP590AAAA:8 a=XmFt0dmJvDwA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=kO84ycaYm-wtF8Srey0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=qtyMPpPvNdoA:10 a=JFLLmj4W_BAA:10 a=JgL6sTUlBcsA:10 a=0vksvMZRuTEA:10 a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uWM2GsfHPyAA:10 a=LuNFSA0Xe1kA:10 a=fh7p6wh_LT3ogFVC:21 a=Cm_rfBWM9qF0JNRU:21 a=B8rx5kvwQHCoTlY5PM2Gsg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] Exhaust Header Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Stahl...be sure and have them send the engine plate first so you can match to your head. Their pattern is off quite a bit. I also specified 16 ga tubes. They are really very nicely made and only a very slight modification of the frame was needed at the collector. It will cost you the better part of $800.00........... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Todd Redmond Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 2:41 PM To: FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Exhaust Header Friends Looking for a header for the TR3. What are you using and where did you get it? 4 into 1 is preferred Thanks Todd _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 29 14:05:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14DF643105 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 14:05:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm26-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm26-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA7742F18 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 14:04:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.151] by nm26.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Oct 2013 20:03:18 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.239] by tm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Oct 2013 20:03:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1048.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Oct 2013 20:03:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 32847 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Oct 2013 20:03:18 -0000 s=s1024; t=1383076997; bh=PSicgIG6yXuuoVQTAL2TlDhu/9C5I2vvc76aylemOdM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=iuqBwwYtoHvzqsKF4kxnQCA28d0lzRaWSK+G3a0P+VmWy+f9F5QdAXBfVG179eY5kttHA+/A+mOlSNZi6aFoNuVqGg7j5Q2Or6sWQprQebL5cJlhoA11ULdHjgkcxmO9E6UHTLxmL67pdUeAdfHaIoIUEmNksXABA/cKSMFolWA= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vfaN7pWY09R87aXtCz0PCPojdxUoV5X5YUSJ1f0b81RmDOoRzqkGyVyIMueexaSQDbnVhc4TijX24WiVmHYdUSKDuZhLJMJJcC+yn+dSmMMqllvx+Q/6ENfaeTIDlLiy+sBiyfg55WbsOB7QR5pxjrPSgn7Mygagm59LtOuAh+8=; TQrOlBR_fbngTWKnZbH9hrPtsyDvqh_OJYGikhOfSc573dEfg_SSJGWm_.Ej B3FZJ1QO7oi_B7IwACIUg4ZHYG6SKYP6IZ0BljFy5On.Wkb7WzIgUOx_WPgH E4EosWvfT0YfH6OyG.dFkPIlduFUc5fRXmBcHvmXBi2P0o10guRx3hibiOZb 5slQE_4Rd6pd83vu9nojIiVFMERN8v9nS3dQBOg3A4EOUXDkFIywTNN96Aqi hMySb7Ltst_auzqJIIsA4i8441JVl3rT_DP1T3Fp.BXt3eWM3dCr.pv.CyH1 _g.HsFcSgtg9LNC9ey4meEgODpRpKzYJRlLf4XJhdHfmhFBPgKnhVuNa7MtA zZLFJN6Mdnefzg2sYeJr4hmjMZa.7vHEaUXxMS5aaUCqiAzRHhWs.TQxlX2u gYo.DJibhrsD9BgBXm2QI1kcETYBne1jqS6gpRokVkjicjLXOwfldGc5tfQg 6i0UPzi4T56pa8UWwW.xtnj0Xd5TC6u9XAYmJWXEgRhu8anhV4.Dy0CGOaiM OegJW9GITxIdLNm8u.Dt2EFp_kROyNHjag4ChEmF7u5gei9.C8n0ipdMnOiu X9pmg8UtTaTDN0srpvTy26vWlLyoc5oz8GcyvvxvuCt.3xWcLYwkRRVcV5lV ZzcqbvbmITQK0mrCkQ1mEVH0k Received: from [172.242.183.210] by web162505.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 13:03:17 PDT V2UgdXNlIGEgU3RhaGwgb24gdGhlIFRSMyB0aGF0IHdlIGhhdmUgaGFkIHNpbmNlIHRoZSBlYXJseSA5MCdzIC4gVGhpcyB5ZWFyIHdlIGhhZCBpdCByZWNvYXRlZCAoY2VyYW1pYykgV29ya3MsIGFuZCBsb29rcyBncmVhdC4KTXkgZmlyc3QgY2hvaWNlLiBNYXRjaGluZyB0aGUgcGxhdGUgaXMgYSBnb29kIGlkZWEuCgpKb2huIFdhZ25lcgpKdXN0IHRoZSB3cmVuY2gKCgoKT24gVHVlc2RheSwgT2N0b2JlciAyOSwgMjAxMyAyOjM0IFBNLCBUb2RkIFJlZG1vbmQgPGFsZmV0dGE5NUBvcHRvbmxpbmUubmV0PiABMAEBAQE- References: <63718fb7.663c.1420584cb1d.Webtop.53@optonline.net> <6f1da815.6797.14205b5ee7e.Webtop.53@optonline.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 13:03:17 -0700 (PDT) From: John Wagner To: Todd Redmond , john hasty Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Exhaust Header Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We use a Stahl on the TR3 that we have had since the early 90's . This year we had it recoated (ceramic) Works, and looks great. My first choice. Matching the plate is a good idea. John Wagner Just the wrench On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 2:34 PM, Todd Redmond wrote: Just checked the Stahl website. They have a header listed for a TR4 under the road race section at $555.00. Am i correct in assuming that the TR3 and TR4 header is the same?B This is for a race motor with a high port head. BTW The website says that they are closing the business at the end of 2013. Todd On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 02:56 PM, john hasty wrote: > Stahl...be sure and have them send the engine plate first so you can > match > to your head. Their pattern is off quite a bit. I also specified 16 > ga > tubes. They are really very nicely made and only a very slight > modification > of the frame was needed at the collector. It will cost you the > better part > of $800.00........... > > > John H. Hasty > Attorney At Law > Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. > 719 East Boulevard > Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 > Tele: (704) 372-5600 > Fax: (704) 372-4601 > E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com > www.gdhs.com > PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any > attachments) is > intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information > that > is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK > PRODUCT. > If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that > any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you > have > received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the > message > and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. > IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS > regulations > regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated > otherwise, > any tax advice contained in this communication (including any > attachments) > is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for > purposes of > (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) > promoting, > marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter > addressed herein. > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Todd Redmond > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 2:41 PM > To: FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Exhaust Header > > Friends > > > Looking for a header for the TR3. What are you using and where did you > get > it? > > > 4 into 1 is preferred > > > Thanks > Todd > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/j.wags63@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 29 14:05:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08EB943180 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 14:05:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (fed1rmfepo201.cox.net [68.230.241.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD9540431 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 14:05:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo305 ([68.230.241.173]) by fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20131029200403.NHYO18907.fed1rmfepo201.cox.net@fed1rmimpo305> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:04:03 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.13] ([68.226.56.207]) by fed1rmimpo305 with cox id j8421m0084UFRTY01842em; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:04:03 -0400 a=Pzl9SFdscvRhuKIrrMfpxQ==:17 a=bvhqHc7SdoYA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=MP1CDKvsS0IA:10 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=YYTZFQBMSDvpFjM99-MA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=Pzl9SFdscvRhuKIrrMfpxQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (PLAIN) smtp.auth=weredinger@cox.net References: From: Bill Redinger Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 15:04:03 -0500 To: Joe Alexander Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] SEMA Show And Performance Racing Industries Show Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Lots of great things to look at and people to learn from. Sorry the girl's have more clothing on now! Still a Great learning experience! Bill On Oct 27, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Who is going? > > Some of us are going to both trade shows. > > We may be participating with an exhibit at PRI, if we get some stuff done in > time for mid-December. > > Jack Drews and I used to go to these. Great learning experiences, but also we > had a great deal of fun. I really miss that. > > Hope to see some FOT folks. > > Joe Alexander > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/weredinger@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 29 14:18:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1DB540537 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 14:18:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d04.mx.aol.com (omr-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.201]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA765403FE for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 14:14:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.131]) by omr-d04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id CC1F47000438B; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:13:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.130] (unknown [207.177.106.83]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 36848E000149; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:13:01 -0400 (EDT) References: <63718fb7.663c.1420584cb1d.Webtop.53@optonline.net> <6f1da815.6797.14205b5ee7e.Webtop.53@optonline.net> <1383076997.31202.YahooMailNeo@web162505.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 15:12:59 -0500 To: John Wagner x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1383077581; bh=fiurG9Ml/QG+cZK9+IT3KKj4Qtwel88mguES7CeKMvE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=mzCTJd2eNMx60OrPUCNZW6psdAp+mVpkrUkpMlPFaQTshaq4TKHzFxvOIIh8/1uiu HUcXE61ICtdQdbSfXhmRnm7qFRLLqaeWtNTTCzk3kAmedjeNE8qKzniVD+CXpbks3T agm7EMzV/PLHWmaA9CkJkdVPmibu20/nXTU4mr/w= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d3383527016cd5754 Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Exhaust Header Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We have a Stahl header....in kit form. It looked like it had been sold and returned. It took some fiddling to make it fit, but it looks great. Sent from my iPad > On Oct 29, 2013, at 3:03 PM, John Wagner wrote: > > We use a Stahl on the TR3 that we have had since the early 90's . This year we > had it recoated (ceramic) Works, and looks great. > My first choice. Matching > the plate is a good idea. > > John Wagner > Just the wrench > > > > On Tuesday, October > 29, 2013 2:34 PM, Todd Redmond wrote: > > Just checked > the Stahl website. > > > They have a header listed for a TR4 under the road race > section at > $555.00. > Am i correct in assuming that the TR3 and TR4 header is > the same?B > > > This is for a race motor with a high port head. > > > BTW The > website says that they are closing the business at the end of > 2013. > > > Todd >> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 02:56 PM, john hasty wrote: >> >> Stahl...be sure and > have them send the engine plate first so you can >> match >> to your head. > Their pattern is off quite a bit. I also specified 16 >> ga >> tubes. They are > really very nicely made and only a very slight >> modification >> of the frame > was needed at the collector. It will cost you the >> better part >> of > $800.00........... >> >> >> John H. Hasty >> Attorney At Law >> Guthrie, Davis, > Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. >> 719 East Boulevard >> Charlotte, North Carolina > 28203-5113 >> Tele: (704) 372-5600 >> Fax: (704) 372-4601 >> E-mail: > jhhasty@gdhs.com >> www.gdhs.com >> PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This > message (and any >> attachments) is >> intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information >> that >> is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, > and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK >> PRODUCT. >> If you are not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that >> any >> dissemination of this > communication is strictly prohibited. If you >> have >> received this > communication in error, please erase all copies of the >> message >> and its > attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. >> IRS CIRCULAR 230 > NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS >> regulations >> regarding tax > advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated >> otherwise, >> any tax > advice contained in this communication (including any >> attachments) >> is not > intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for >> purposes of >> (i) > avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) >> promoting, > marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter > addressed herein. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: > fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] >> On >> Behalf > Of Todd Redmond >> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 2:41 PM >> To: > FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net >> Subject: [Fot] Exhaust Header > Friends >> >> >> Looking for a header for the TR3. What are you using and where > did you >> get >> it? >> >> >> 4 into 1 is preferred >> >> >> Thanks >> Todd > _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/j.wags63@yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 29 16:21:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E408343016 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:21:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta41.charter.net (mta41.charter.net [216.33.127.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6154043D for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:20:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20131029221932.OXZW10143.mta41.charter.net@imp10>; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 18:19:32 -0400 Received: from wt03 ([209.225.8.43]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id jAKY1m0010vicD505AKYyo; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 18:19:32 -0400 a=1pOwa8b6cSmEz8ILrAHUHA==:17 a=pMKzOs1iszUA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=UlxKpHklH7UA:10 a=b4KrJKo_AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=mQs74ym3d9xeFJ-4-8cA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=3s1brv6_91IA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=1pOwa8b6cSmEz8ILrAHUHA==:117 Received: from [68.112.207.159] by enhanced.charter.net with HTTP; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 18:19:32 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 18:19:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Senty To: Rich User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire For Sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Be sure to nominate this is one for the best of craigslist. Very funny. On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Rich wrote: > http://eauclaire.craigslist.org/cto/4154990742.html > > Good for a chuckle. NFI > > Rich Rock > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gp89@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 29 18:15:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FC1C4350B for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 18:15:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f48.google.com (mail-oa0-f48.google.com [209.85.219.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D76D42F9D for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 18:14:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id m17so735338oag.35 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 17:13:03 -0700 (PDT) h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version; bh=tpsY6wQa6vNcwzlOSDYNyLEzwE27qjoE+vE5XesPLqo=; b=JIEcYQHSmVhWpKodmMKRMiH1I4Y84Eod+2N++F9P3Jwr0039c0D2w9J05EIkaSakaM 2cidxWmqFnD/0u0IyKU+wRQFDk8cpp1l5pMBElUfuAQRkQY2nuGUoh0X0myFJE+qbiC5 kc59AxAT8Umj360KbDV4rlldfJ4pDD/f6TuEyS+5eGo5lWDs8kCmSxed5I80Wd6yWy3x 5y1Q/9+9M0YwMzA4SnYzBR4wCl4Qh0ENLq1PYUXyt7rEUpEvUHxtOfRyU5lkKAbC5gkU ldfvJBWkccl2jPqg9zFfZjN+WX3vdgHkd0pEKFYUT5itE2jlMjTgh5qZoqdHbAnsvUpQ 59Uw== gq4mr1924177obb.4.1383091983672; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 17:13:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d8sm48729456oeu.6.2013.10.29.17.13.03 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 29 Oct 2013 17:13:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 19:13:01 -0500 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] SVRA at CotA -- photos and article Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Pictures and a short article here: http://www.sportscardigest.com/svra-us-vintage-racing-national-championship-2 013-report-and-photos/ Greg Blake's silver TR3 is shown and my red Morgan is among the slide show after the pages transition to thumbnails. Duncan 1952 Morgan Plus 4 red #6 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 29 18:38:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A3843246 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 18:38:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE25442F9D for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 18:35:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id n12so630060wgh.5 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 17:34:08 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GJSDx4Mj8GYQW/vO/ePethB8aAPfxuNNeLh7YAfm4fo=; b=fq/wTy0ZlAnywxJMQ+NOK/wX/WpmAL2AAzLekb8DIUXrPGt2iMdconsxdLCNuveI8y geTn9l/Ty7vkUTRhPUsPX4nh7m8MtdxLbMEmANbzbHgrgDOcBmbK6CD5n+ZKot7VOnIa /lgy68qMF3yvs/hgqzWCGY2UlWj0bwlLacHD2Aitd6U/L0YmXGfI8vcSAv0oBIWs85Cb 9SyKb1hL7hjbuAFPSvAJXIljU2ZZIGscid3yD1xDdI7bvgw3y3wIl9FLO6b3cx3jOodj sN6qgzexjUmvflT6b7NH5XOM0fV/47NRW7JQKMlIIAmwsfF8gHFdoDEsCATU0xlI8k95 tORA== ud10mr295061wib.25.1383093248222; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 17:34:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.97.70 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 17:34:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 22:34:08 -0200 From: dick stockton To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] 2008 Kastner Cup, Watkins Glen in-car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi all, Here is my in-car video from the 2008 Kastner Cup at Watkins Glen.Not very long and not a happy ending. Crank up the sound as it is very clear in this one. I qualified 3rd oa and was the highest running 4cyl car when the valve dropped. Tom Kreger (2nd place) is on very wide Hoosier R6s. The other TR6s are on cantilever slicks. The TR250K and I were on Hoosier Speedsters. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNBcIr1KV7o Here is one earlier in the Kastner Cup weekend. Just cruising around after chasing Vic around for the first couple of laps. Lap traffic caused the 3rd place MGB to catch up on the last lap, but I just stuck my foot in it and opened up a gap. I finished 2nd of 49 cars. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1X4PyPaNDw Dick _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 29 18:52:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B1A436A7 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 18:52:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d10.mx.aol.com (omr-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A0D40446 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 18:51:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.194]) by omr-d10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9554C7003F61A; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 20:49:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 1B63EE0000F3; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 20:49:36 -0400 (EDT) References: From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 19:49:34 -0500 To: Don TR <58tr3a@videotron.ca>, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1383094176; bh=W7Tazg0Xw9gvy6Q3Wl5wc0rlN8Pj2vaFjWM8UhFV3UE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=vN4iyPN7Mhk7zArXEMBzim+/kGqeAjYuAxxc18fgs1uPTz3e0WCP4Xx4KuXn2HYH8 QDXPeJ/CXTf3BGQWSc64mV4cUsdfhEBIEQreuFIzmZ4oUA9fhojJt5bKoT7UCpeJNj NEMYou1oWYc9gkQmt8JEKF3JPc5STb8PycwZuKKY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c2527057a0389e Subject: Re: [Fot] Need TR3a front bumper bar and front apron for my 1958 TR3A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mark Bradakis, could you check into SNAFU on Don Elliott's list connection? FOT, can anyone help Don on a front valance and front bumper bar? Don, I feel your pain....been there, done that. Joe Alexander Sent from my iPad > On Oct 29, 2013, at 6:57 PM, Don TR <58tr3a@videotron.ca> wrote: > > Joe - I need you help (or your influence) because my message to FOT got bounced when I sent the e-mail below. The reply said I am not a member !! What goes ? I thought I was still a member. Although I don't write often, I read every message that comes from the FOT gang. > > Below is the bounce message. > > Thanks for you help. > > Don Elliott > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- > > > Your mail to 'Fot' with the subject > > Need TR3a front bumper bar and front apron for my 1958 TR3A > > Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. > > The reason it is being held: > > Post by non-member to a members-only list > > Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/confirm/fot/b371a9e49f581eaf614adab579b9b357d1b bc296 > > From: Don Elliott [mailto:1958tr3a@videotron.ca] > Sent: October-29-13 3:32 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Need TR3a front bumper bar and front apron for my 1958 TR3A > > Friends > > I smashed in the front of my concours 1958 TR3A last Sunday and I need these parts. If you have either, let me know. The insurance adjuster told me he wants to use new parts but the repro bumper bars flare out on the ends like ears and the supply of valances may take months to supply. If you have nice undented parts, I'd love to see a photo or two. > > Please reply to me directly by e-mail - just leave out the blanks in my address below and use the correct @ and . in place of "at" and "dot". > > e-mail ; - 58tr3a "at" videotron "dot" ca > > Don Elliott, Original Owner, 1958 TR3A, Montreal, Canada > > The adjuster agrees to paying all the packing, shipping, brokerage fees etc. He told me "We have to make it right - as it was before the accident". _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 29 19:13:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72AA043731 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 19:13:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60B143629 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 19:13:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vwm14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (vwm14.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.10.44]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0MVG00KICJC0I250@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 21:12:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [67.83.138.143] by webtop.webmail.optimum.net with HTTP; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 21:12:00 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 21:12:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Redmond To: Joe Alexander References: <84110A7C-B566-4470-8416-7D277F1F0929@cs.com> User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Need TR3a front bumper bar and front apron for my 1958 TR3A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe, I have a fiberglass one if Don's interested. B In fact, I have all four fenders too that I would like to sell. Todd On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 08:49 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Mark Bradakis, could you check into SNAFU on Don Elliott's list > connection? > > FOT, can anyone help Don on a front valance and front bumper bar? > > Don, I feel your pain....been there, done that. > > Joe Alexander > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Oct 29, 2013, at 6:57 PM, Don TR <58tr3a@videotron.ca> wrote: >> >> Joe - I need you help (or your influence) because my message to FOT >> got > bounced when I sent the e-mail below. The reply said I am not a > member !! > What goes ? I thought I was still a member. Although I don't write > often, I > read every message that comes from the FOT gang. >> >> Below is the bounce message. >> >> Thanks for you help. >> >> Don Elliott >> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------- >> >> >> Your mail to 'Fot' with the subject >> >> Need TR3a front bumper bar and front apron for my 1958 TR3A >> >> Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. >> >> The reason it is being held: >> >> Post by non-member to a members-only list >> >> Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive > notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel > this > posting, please visit the following URL: >> >> > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/confirm/fot/b371a9e49f581eaf614adab579b9b357d1b > bc296 >> >> From: Don Elliott [mailto:1958tr3a@videotron.ca] >> Sent: October-29-13 3:32 PM >> To: fot@autox.team.net >> Subject: Need TR3a front bumper bar and front apron for my 1958 TR3A >> >> Friends >> >> I smashed in the front of my concours 1958 TR3A last Sunday and I >> need these > parts. If you have either, let me know. The insurance adjuster told > me he > wants to use new parts but the repro bumper bars flare out on the ends > like > ears and the supply of valances may take months to supply. If you > have nice > undented parts, I'd love to see a photo or two. >> >> Please reply to me directly by e-mail - just leave out the blanks in >> my > address below and use the correct @ and . in place of "at" and "dot". >> >> e-mail ; - 58tr3a "at" videotron "dot" ca >> >> Don Elliott, Original Owner, 1958 TR3A, Montreal, Canada >> >> The adjuster agrees to paying all the packing, shipping, brokerage >> fees etc. > He told me "We have to make it right - as it was before the accident". > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 29 19:23:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D28343790 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 19:23:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22673431EF for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 19:20:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 3B55C7015038B; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 21:19:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dte004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dte004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.163.205]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E7343E000088; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 21:19:16 -0400 (EDT) References: <84110A7C-B566-4470-8416-7D277F1F0929@cs.com> To: n197tr4@cs.com, 58tr3a@videotron.ca, fot@autox.team.net From: Bruce Lapierre Received: from 173.188.50.64 by webmail-m164.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.161) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 29 Oct 2013 21:19:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 21:19:16 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1383095957; bh=LrIBPVcGHgnHGCunnTLr1l1jrzHH3DMXcyMkK+aJCd0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vHtN4OaThjDhxqFN4c8eNymDfOf2Ogj33i7rwyx1u+gaIxysLL+8PpVLoPFa7sQ6v Z5AAK8xgXsKTqZQy92YZh3pz62zrNpfll4FqFmcIKxnhDesu6LYUOZKiaytGWkiNh4 ON281H5owAPSqOtpjhDelOzmetwTQ6OO531zPdqc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c52705e944390 Subject: Re: [Fot] Need TR3a front bumper bar and front apron for my 1958 TR3A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Don: I don't have the valance or bumper but do have a front bonnet/not raised hinge but with the Zuss hold down holes in great shape. I'll check with on of the NCTA members for what you need. Bruce Lapierre -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander To: Don TR <58tr3a@videotron.ca>; fot Sent: Tue, Oct 29, 2013 8:51 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Need TR3a front bumper bar and front apron for my 1958 TR3A Mark Bradakis, could you check into SNAFU on Don Elliott's list connection? FOT, can anyone help Don on a front valance and front bumper bar? Don, I feel your pain....been there, done that. Joe Alexander Sent from my iPad > On Oct 29, 2013, at 6:57 PM, Don TR <58tr3a@videotron.ca> wrote: Joe - I need you help (or your influence) because my message to FOT got ounced when I sent the e-mail below. The reply said I am not a member !! hat goes ? I thought I was still a member. Although I don't write often, I ead every message that comes from the FOT gang. Below is the bounce message. Thanks for you help. Don Elliott ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------- Your mail to 'Fot' with the subject Need TR3a front bumper bar and front apron for my 1958 TR3A Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Post by non-member to a members-only list Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive otification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this osting, please visit the following URL: ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/confirm/fot/b371a9e49f581eaf614adab579b9b357d1b c296 From: Don Elliott [mailto:1958tr3a@videotron.ca] Sent: October-29-13 3:32 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Need TR3a front bumper bar and front apron for my 1958 TR3A Friends I smashed in the front of my concours 1958 TR3A last Sunday and I need these arts. If you have either, let me know. The insurance adjuster told me he ants to use new parts but the repro bumper bars flare out on the ends like ars and the supply of valances may take months to supply. If you have nice ndented parts, I'd love to see a photo or two. Please reply to me directly by e-mail - just leave out the blanks in my ddress below and use the correct @ and . in place of "at" and "dot". e-mail ; - 58tr3a "at" videotron "dot" ca Don Elliott, Original Owner, 1958 TR3A, Montreal, Canada The adjuster agrees to paying all the packing, shipping, brokerage fees etc. e told me "We have to make it right - as it was before the accident". ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: http://www.team.net/archive orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttr4@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 29 22:43:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 281A64303B for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 22:43:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f180.google.com (mail-ve0-f180.google.com [209.85.128.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA33E42FF0 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 22:41:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f180.google.com with SMTP id oy12so591675veb.25 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 21:39:59 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Udj2yTW68vHgYSqcB/82LvoEVrdh1IDcNAeXsAQtRcM=; b=EaZDf9h7lhbIbqvAh4l9sGqMveAHW69tw6KggfjOMqQAjZE4IrSKCG0NG6uxNAaQL2 YHRR5ZSph3paDNr+Kq2qb3fyZOu/n0uK7KX0e4FvHruQu9Dlfpp4NsguHVFjoZcL29VY XvGFJwQ7VxXPKuTE5SLDDHAD5+QaGiKdgqqt9YhZC9ugnWLLI2dvvlYbzft4WnbLanpl irUga2NKHlXeI2DGsQYE6OvkM8oCwi95hZmr9ClflytNeCFqd5efWX/5c9m5ND3LVjMr lkH5/Ybv/oZXUHuObSd25N5SuB+vt29kGrmro5lfN1qw4RJzvFiVHOmZ7u6QhrOFqM03 00Cw== Tue, 29 Oct 2013 21:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.181.202 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 21:39:58 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 23:39:58 -0500 From: Jason Ostrowski To: dick stockton Cc: triumph friends Subject: Re: [Fot] 2008 Kastner Cup, Watkins Glen in-car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FAST video! I like the bug splatter towards the end of the second video. emphasizes the theme of the footage... "Scary fast TR comin' through," be passed at your own risk. P.S. damn Porsches. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 7:34 PM, dick stockton wrote: > Hi all, > > Here is my in-car video from the 2008 Kastner Cup at Watkins Glen.Not very > long and not a happy ending. Crank up the sound as it is very clear in this > one. I qualified 3rd oa and was the highest running 4cyl car when the valve > dropped. Tom Kreger (2nd place) is on very wide Hoosier R6s. The other TR6s > are on cantilever slicks. The TR250K and I were on Hoosier Speedsters. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNBcIr1KV7o > > Here is one earlier in the Kastner Cup weekend. Just cruising around after > chasing Vic around for the first couple of laps. Lap traffic caused the 3rd > place MGB to catch up on the last lap, but I just stuck my foot in it and > opened up a gap. I finished 2nd of 49 cars. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1X4PyPaNDw > > > Dick > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 29 22:44:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D8943528 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 22:44:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ADF440325 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 13:33:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DonPC (modemcable014.55-58-74.mc.videotron.ca [74.58.55.14]) by VL-VM-MR006.ip.videotron.ca (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-22.01 64bit (built Apr 21 2011)) with ESMTPA id <0MVG00AO63LUR090@VL-VM-MR006.ip.videotron.ca> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 15:32:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Elliott <1958tr3a@videotron.ca> To: fot@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 15:32:17 -0400 Thread-index: Ac7U3ZQD2KpZumR8SjSyJW1meIWQtA== Subject: [Fot] Need TR3a front bumper bar and front apron for my 1958 TR3A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Friends I smashed in the front of my concours 1958 TR3A last Sunday and I need these parts. If you have either, let me know. The insurance adjuster told me he wants to use new parts but the repro bumper bars flare out on the ends like ears and the supply of valances may take months to supply. If you have nice undented parts, I'd love to see a photo or two. Please reply to me directly by e-mail - just leave out the blanks in my address below and use the correct @ and . in place of "at" and "dot". e-mail ; - 58tr3a "at" videotron "dot" ca Don Elliott, Original Owner, 1958 TR3A, Montreal, Canada The adjuster agrees to paying all the packing, shipping, brokerage fees etc. He told me "We have to make it right - as it was before the accident". _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 30 06:51:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 950EC43158 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 06:51:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from georges.telenet-ops.be (georges.telenet-ops.be [195.130.137.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F22BB42F79 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 06:48:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([141.134.4.155]) by georges.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id jQn41m0053LgakV06Qn7xB; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 13:47:07 +0100 From: "Van Mulders Marcel" To: "'Todd Redmond'" References: <63718fb7.663c.1420584cb1d.Webtop.53@optonline.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 13:47:03 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac7U124ROgTZkH1EQ4Cplg8AbIDDWgAlgvmg Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Exhaust Header Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm interested in an exhaust header for my TR3 race car because the tubes on my header are only 37.5mm or 1 1/2" outer diameter and most 4cylinder TR race cars seem to run with 42mm tubes. What do you think? Marcel Van Mulders -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens Todd Redmond Verzonden: dinsdag 29 oktober 2013 19:41 Aan: FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net Onderwerp: [Fot] Exhaust Header Friends Looking for a header for the TR3. What are you using and where did you get it? 4 into 1 is preferred Thanks Todd _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 30 09:28:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C77430AB for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 09:28:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from jacques.telenet-ops.be (jacques.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5FD42F7E for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 09:28:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([141.134.4.155]) by jacques.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id jTSY1m00m3LgakV0JTSb5V; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 16:26:35 +0100 From: "Van Mulders Marcel" To: "'john hasty'" References: <63718fb7.663c.1420584cb1d.Webtop.53@optonline.net> <5958BABFDC00458DBC0EE48ABE01E039@gdhs.local> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 16:26:31 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac7U124ROgTZkH1EQ4Cplg8AbIDDWgAlgvmgAAJy8bAAAx0NcA== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Exhaust Header Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks john. 1 5/8" is 41mm : that is the diameter most 4 cylinder TR racers have fitted I believe. I will try these over the winter and eventually replacing the 38mm(outer diameter) primaries on my car.I will look at the Stahl website. Do you know the length of the primary exhaust tubes on y our car? Very nice car b.t.w. and very neat underbonnet! Marcel -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: john hasty [mailto:jhhasty@gdhs.com] Verzonden: woensdag 30 oktober 2013 15:10 Aan: 'Van Mulders Marcel'; 'Todd Redmond' CC: fot@autox.team.net Onderwerp: RE: [Fot] Exhaust Header Marcel: The Stahl headers I had made are 1 & 5/8 inches ID (46mm?)16 gage tubes. Pictures attached. Very good workmanship. I also had themceramic coated along with the intake here locally which I am told reduces the heat radiated by 35%. Stahl should have the specifications they used under my name. Cost $747 USD. They are in York PA and may be going out of business at the end of the year.... John H. Hasty Attorney At Law Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. 719 East Boulevard Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 Tele: (704) 372-5600 Fax: (704) 372-4601 E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com www.gdhs.com PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any attachments) is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS regulations regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Van Mulders Marcel Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 8:47 AM To: 'Todd Redmond' Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Exhaust Header I'm interested in an exhaust header for my TR3 race car because the tubes on my header are only 37.5mm or 1 1/2" outer diameter and most 4cylinder TR race cars seem to run with 42mm tubes. What do you think? Marcel Van Mulders -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens Todd Redmond Verzonden: dinsdag 29 oktober 2013 19:41 Aan: FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net Onderwerp: [Fot] Exhaust Header Friends Looking for a header for the TR3. What are you using and where did you get it? 4 into 1 is preferred Thanks Todd _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 30 12:27:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976C04433D for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:27:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from georges.telenet-ops.be (georges.telenet-ops.be [195.130.137.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8FCC43733 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:24:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([141.134.4.155]) by georges.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id jWNj1m00v3LgakV06WNpGl; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 19:22:49 +0100 From: "Van Mulders Marcel" To: "'steve'" References: <16294136.1383147258859.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 19:22:42 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac7VhYpr4rVWGh3uQfC/ghuKO+WMAgAFuaMg Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Exhaust Header Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Steve, your headers are also a lot wider (diameter) than mine. Bigger is not always better and many tend to fit too wide exhaust pipes, but maybe 38mm (1 1/2") is definitely too small on a race car, I'll found out before next racing season. -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: steve [mailto:colordog.1@earthlink.net] Verzonden: woensdag 30 oktober 2013 16:34 Aan: Van Mulders Marcel Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Exhaust Header I also have Stahl headers on my TR3 race car. ~Steve -----Original Message----- >From: Van Mulders Marcel >Sent: Oct 30, 2013 5:47 AM >To: 'Todd Redmond' >Cc: fot@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Fot] Exhaust Header > > I'm interested in an exhaust header for my TR3 race car because the >tubes on my header are only 37.5mm or >1 1/2" outer diameter and most 4cylinder TR race cars seem to run with >42mm tubes. What do you think? >Marcel Van Mulders > >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] >Namens Todd Redmond >Verzonden: dinsdag 29 oktober 2013 19:41 >Aan: FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net >Onderwerp: [Fot] Exhaust Header > >Friends > > >Looking for a header for the TR3. What are you using and where did you >get it? > > >4 into 1 is preferred > > >Thanks >Todd >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 30 12:36:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B834451B for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:36:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED66442AB for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:36:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vwm12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (vwm12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.10.42]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-9.20 (built Jul 15 2010)) with ESMTPA id <0MVH004UXVLOFKI0@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for FOT@autox.team.net; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 14:34:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [67.83.138.143] by webtop.webmail.optimum.net with HTTP; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 14:34:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 14:34:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Redmond To: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Subject: [Fot] Rear main felt gasket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fot, What sealant should I use for the rear main felt on the TR3 motor? B I've tried 3 auto parts stores and none have the Gasket Shellac. I've already made my tool for ramming the felt into the rear main. B Just need the sealant. Thanks Todd _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 30 12:57:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C721445F4 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:57:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A99A444D3 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:55:59 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=m_Y9U0T1fFMA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=vfqcgnNN8UkA:10 a=yncDWgVDkXTIRmO8rqwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55002] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 07/79-00725-7E551725; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 18:54:32 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Todd Redmond'" , Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 11:54:49 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac7Vnsgo2BEz5N53SEu9D09csLcr9QAAhAng Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear main felt gasket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > What sealant should I use for the rear main felt on the TR3 > motor? B I've > tried 3 auto parts stores and none have the Gasket Shellac. Looks like the classic Permatex #3 "Aviation Form-A-Gasket" is still readily available. I found it listed even at Wally-mart, as well as Advance Auto & O'Reillys. That's what I've always used and it works great. The only criticism I have is that it can be hard to get the cap back out the next time. There is a diagram of a puller in the workshop manual. Mine has a bit of curve in it now Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 30 13:27:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D95443865 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 13:27:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED28A44480 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 13:25:21 -0600 (MDT) a=Pt2jL6afp71Tegp3rVfu4A==:17 a=e4F3oT5d7OUA:10 a=m_Y9U0T1fFMA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=vfqcgnNN8UkA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=sVWh3i1hjzq6UYLn6MEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=Pt2jL6afp71Tegp3rVfu4A==:117 Received: from [75.86.187.21] ([75.86.187.21:52431] helo=HPLaptop) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 69/91-17346-ACC51725; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 19:23:54 +0000 From: "Steve Yott" To: "'Todd Redmond'" , References: <4c44b0c8.8c04.1420aa555da.Webtop.42@optonline.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 14:23:53 -0500 Thread-Index: AQJOQ+aVLaBtD03/556ionVP5YiP6ZkOwuAg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear main felt gasket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I use the "Right Stuff" by coating 1" long pieces of the felt and packing them into the slots until you can't get any more in. Then shave off the top with a razor blade..... Steve Yott -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Todd Redmond Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 1:35 PM To: FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Rear main felt gasket Fot, What sealant should I use for the rear main felt on the TR3 motor? B I've tried 3 auto parts stores and none have the Gasket Shellac. I've already made my tool for ramming the felt into the rear main. B Just need the sealant. Thanks Todd _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 30 13:35:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D024B44639 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 13:35:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A08844615 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 13:33:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.202]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 13A83701620FC; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 15:31:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtc005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtc005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.17]) by mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id DBE03E00008E; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 15:31:40 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 15:31:40 -0400 (EDT) To: van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be, colordog.1@earthlink.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1383161501; bh=XByvh9vILvfsD4GRsD6eD5tSmnNDCSqPIHDC0Y2JVr8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=N7Zh7G5oYY508GZuBZX78YwT97PUhzRimXTjH7G3fkLIl69iB2C1qH7y4me1GXwDv QnoHQWTYWd6MZQvwWNIYe1L2sNQZJ0T5Cyu/4+M/98REIy6rKX0SKddiG/DZ08A1fU xccUk14qiIVlgqfn3XChljv2CQ7hQoUUPXeTMGO8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33ca52715e9c3dde Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Exhaust Header Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 10/30/2013 12:26:05 PM Central Standard Time, van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be writes: > Steve, your headers are also a lot wider (diameter) than mine. Bigger is > not > always better and many tend to fit too wide exhaust pipes, but maybe 38mm > (1 > 1/2") is definitely too small on a race car, I'll found out before next > racing season. > Amici... More than a few FOTers have worked on a 'tuned exhaust'. I know Uncle Jack did. And in particular, Greg at the Engine Room. He told me the exhaust pipe length can be a critical issue too, at least with the headers he's developed for his Morgan applications. Maybe he'll chime in. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 30 13:37:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81943436C7 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 13:37:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d03.mx.aol.com (omr-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347BC436C7 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 13:36:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.198]) by omr-d03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8FD417014DC5D; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 15:35:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 411CFE00011A; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 15:35:26 -0400 (EDT) References: <4c44b0c8.8c04.1420aa555da.Webtop.42@optonline.net> <002d01ced5a5$91daf890$b590e9b0$@wi.rr.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 14:35:25 -0500 To: Steve Yott x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1383161726; bh=orzE+JwjanwkZodjRerRSB/T9zfUihUD5nMcyhI6gPc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=ghX9MUGyUUXzELJfKrtRj8HKiv4/GLBqN5c0yx29saRvRTNsoVDgS7EuZ2OuXzyeR Ieqshsv5NF/TiNUwWBkm6Qxz3gFPq/tqoVOBu35grF4Ouvk0lWCUxPdluJcWwupfhf Gs+LxdXa3gzZGNDrLchd+YAZ4jQSIJnjADk1VMxE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c652715f7e16aa Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear main felt gasket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I pack in until the Permatex begins to ooze from the seams of the block. Sent from my iPad > On Oct 30, 2013, at 2:23 PM, "Steve Yott" wrote: > > I use the "Right Stuff" by coating 1" long pieces of the felt and packing > them into the slots until you can't get any more in. Then shave off the top > with a razor blade..... > > Steve Yott > > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Todd Redmond > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 1:35 PM > To: FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Rear main felt gasket > > Fot, > > > What sealant should I use for the rear main felt on the TR3 motor? B I've > tried 3 auto parts stores and none have the Gasket Shellac. I've already > made my tool for ramming the felt into the rear main. B Just need the > sealant. > > > Thanks > Todd > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 30 13:43:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E11744727 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 13:43:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from jacques.telenet-ops.be (jacques.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C6E4455E for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 13:39:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([141.134.4.155]) by jacques.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id jXeT1m00q3LgakV0JXeWvD; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 20:38:31 +0100 From: "Van Mulders Marcel" To: "'Kas Kastner'" References: <16294136.1383147258859.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <7628743117FB454D9ABCB196BED442FD@GebruikerPC> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 20:38:26 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac7Vo+d2NvaCmYySTUmFi6oIh5hZYwAASTNQ Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Exhaust Header Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Kas, Yes, big news, my Stuska engine dynamometer (of Powertest inc.) will be running in a month or so. The purpose built cell is about ready. The hardware : all the Stuska parts and most of the additional plumbing, cooling, electricity ... are in place. I've also the 4cyl and 6 cyl TR engines rear plate and cankshaft adaptors. But there are still a myriade of smaller things to do. I've surely underestimated the work that is involved. The dyno can run manually or automatically to instructed programs and the recorded data can be sent by email : be sure you will get results, inclusive a lot of questions! Marcel. _____ Van: Kas Kastner [mailto:kaskastner@gmail.com] Verzonden: woensdag 30 oktober 2013 20:11 Aan: Van Mulders Marcel Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Exhaust Header So you will have your dynamometer running soon? Never be beaten by equipment. On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Van Mulders Marcel wrote: Steve, your headers are also a lot wider (diameter) than mine. Bigger is not always better and many tend to fit too wide exhaust pipes, but maybe 38mm (1 1/2") is definitely too small on a race car, I'll found out before next racing season. -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: steve [mailto:colordog.1@earthlink.net] Verzonden: woensdag 30 oktober 2013 16:34 Aan: Van Mulders Marcel Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Exhaust Header I also have Stahl headers on my TR3 race car. ~Steve -----Original Message----- >From: Van Mulders Marcel >Sent: Oct 30, 2013 5:47 AM >To: 'Todd Redmond' >Cc: fot@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Fot] Exhaust Header > > I'm interested in an exhaust header for my TR3 race car because the >tubes on my header are only 37.5mm or >1 1/2" outer diameter and most 4cylinder TR race cars seem to run with >42mm tubes. What do you think? >Marcel Van Mulders > >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] >Namens Todd Redmond >Verzonden: dinsdag 29 oktober 2013 19:41 >Aan: FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net >Onderwerp: [Fot] Exhaust Header > >Friends > > >Looking for a header for the TR3. What are you using and where did you >get it? > > >4 into 1 is preferred > > >Thanks >Todd >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 30 13:49:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC85446C7 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 13:49:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D884437A for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 13:48:43 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=jdPJXhqo6g3/I0T4kmlDL8/kFF+GvYclGrhlvJvQViAJapEU4zGDuP4WNR7b8AmE; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Cc:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.24] (helo=mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1VbbeV-0002Ih-SJ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 15:42:03 -0400 Received: from 108.64.186.7 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 15:42:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:42:03 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: steve To: Todd Redmond Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear main felt gasket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Permatex #3. Soak the felt in the sealant overnight so it soaks all the way through. The gasket kit doesn't come with enough of the felt. I buy an extra felt piece from Moss. Cut into 3/4" strips and drive it in there. It's a sticky mess. I have an old screwdriver with the bit cut off that is the perfect size for the hole. I hammer it in both sides with that tool. ~Steve -----Original Message----- >From: Todd Redmond >Sent: Oct 30, 2013 11:34 AM >To: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" >Subject: [Fot] Rear main felt gasket > >Fot, > > >What sealant should I use for the rear main felt on the TR3 motor? B I've >tried 3 auto parts stores and none have the Gasket Shellac. I've already >made my tool for ramming the felt into the rear main. B Just need the >sealant. > > >Thanks >Todd >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 30 15:24:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954CC40437 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 15:24:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f173.google.com (mail-we0-f173.google.com [74.125.82.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C724359D for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 14:55:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-we0-f173.google.com with SMTP id u57so1858121wes.32 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 13:53:38 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=d1N0c7LDsNjaeVt33wMBZBUIwV3+1ut9tmjkUgtWtuY=; b=kvylCfJ3fkiLji81CCDjpFiaLYeMnjj5wuMMfksVys9uN1RAqTeJCvy9rIsjqCQwJb y3ts7CPp6i6q+rsHW9IMGk8WEdoUwtbwwXxYe878/Gu8bXWVxeVN5dTaheZkM+vVjjVJ FtC+uFvJrVNkl+jpQ92lRsy/tMGTFhqFBBPX96ivjaifMFKv4ywj2P389bkP/bHh1WM5 XwHxzWM2dFzQ0iHj9bYx40/Y0rJayjakoQ7uhx9Hv3rrqXc0yNiikggwdLcg9dYNzp2/ uc8JhW9gGp7r31GwMaY1KteTClV73cPeqfggxmVicfk/ZVJGG0aMzgMzb64VpWOBMVdC i6Rg== pk1mr6844355wjc.36.1383166418170; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 13:53:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.97.136 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 13:53:38 -0700 (PDT) References: <23004851.1383162123861.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 16:53:38 -0400 From: Robert Deanes To: steve Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear main felt gasket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I do the same as Steve, soak and pack til it can't take any more...works good. On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 3:42 PM, steve wrote: > Permatex #3. Soak the felt in the sealant overnight so it soaks all the > way through. The gasket kit doesn't come with enough of the felt. I buy > an extra felt piece from Moss. Cut into 3/4" strips and drive it in there. > It's a sticky mess. > I have an old screwdriver with the bit cut off that is the perfect size > for the hole. I hammer it in both sides with that tool. > > ~Steve > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Todd Redmond > >Sent: Oct 30, 2013 11:34 AM > >To: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" > >Subject: [Fot] Rear main felt gasket > > > >Fot, > > > > > >What sealant should I use for the rear main felt on the TR3 motor? B I've > >tried 3 auto parts stores and none have the Gasket Shellac. I've already > >made my tool for ramming the felt into the rear main. B Just need the > >sealant. > > > > > >Thanks > >Todd > >_______________________________________________ > >fot@autox.team.net > > > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1@earthlink.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 30 19:14:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8F643674 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 19:14:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8ACB4322F for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 19:13:38 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) a=Itinzlsgk2EkdlKSgBDs9Q==:17 a=rknYjitqFCwA:10 a=m_Y9U0T1fFMA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=vfqcgnNN8UkA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=5Up8faWwAAAA:8 a=xRfjoxBpAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=Ze96msxwglxYkKg2h7kA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=v6MMM96S_sUA:10 a=bgAgzZxQv2QA:10 a=Itinzlsgk2EkdlKSgBDs9Q==:117 Received: from [166.137.145.194] ([166.137.145.194:43478] helo=[10.215.251.21]) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 8E/13-01931-46EA1725; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 01:12:06 +0000 References: <23004851.1383162123861.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 20:12:03 -0500 To: Robert Deanes Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Rear main felt gasket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I do the same but have always tried to clean up the sealant that gets into the inside of the block but I am never very successful at cleaning it all up. What do y'all do about the sealant that gets down (actually it is up) there inside the block near the rear main bearing? > On Oct 30, 2013, at 3:53 PM, Robert Deanes wrote: > > I do the same as Steve, soak and pack til it can't take any more...works > good. > > >> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 3:42 PM, steve wrote: >> >> Permatex #3. Soak the felt in the sealant overnight so it soaks all the >> way through. The gasket kit doesn't come with enough of the felt. I buy >> an extra felt piece from Moss. Cut into 3/4" strips and drive it in there. >> It's a sticky mess. >> I have an old screwdriver with the bit cut off that is the perfect size >> for the hole. I hammer it in both sides with that tool. >> >> ~Steve >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Todd Redmond >>> Sent: Oct 30, 2013 11:34 AM >>> To: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" >>> Subject: [Fot] Rear main felt gasket >>> >>> Fot, >>> >>> >>> What sealant should I use for the rear main felt on the TR3 motor? B I've >>> tried 3 auto parts stores and none have the Gasket Shellac. I've already >>> made my tool for ramming the felt into the rear main. B Just need the >>> sealant. >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> Todd >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/colordog.1@earthlink.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- > rob deanes > TR Racer > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 30 19:26:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D150F43CA7 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 19:26:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d02.mx.aol.com (omr-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 801FD42F41 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 19:26:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.198]) by omr-d02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A4AA670159BE2 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 21:24:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 4F84EE00009F for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 21:24:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 20:19:41 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1383182684; bh=OwUfcVhVCIMnqmd+xbks1Rr74ChEv/YlwTdV0jhC66w=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=Uf1tHrN1EQvDpXYjQvNwA/Ovll5HUmABUuim9Z7U+/IoJ1bZoXtoHpfrwLAArr+Pi 2CZOT7NBm82xpXixK9ZIeEaXFrgWQkjB4tc2/B+NzgNZI/RIUnUqpsec+IAd1qnnBY Mmx6dqXKMLIv0C1vOQ0Hpn93rOCfqQzjtfYMwf3g= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c65271b15c2039 Subject: [Fot] Mad Marx brake caliper seals. TR3 TR4 TR6. Available in North America Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT List, Chris Marx had four piece sets of brake seals produced. We have them on our car. Sean was very impressed with them and he is not easily impressed. Chris left a few sets with me at the Kastner Cup, if anyone wanted them in North America. NFI on my part. You can send PayPal to Chris and I will send to you. There is a primary heavy duty seal and a second seal that prevents entry of debris. Chris has several years of running with them and can share his experience with other cars running them in Europe. Worth asking Chris about. I suspect he does not baby his brakes and he had an outstanding history with his seals. I am ready to ship, in his behalf.....my pleasure. Regards, Joe A. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 30 20:52:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6217243680 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 20:52:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4737F42F86 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 20:48:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id jeG51m0040cQ2SLABenNX7; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 02:47:22 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id jelM1m00f2xZMJ48WelMyS; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 02:45:22 +0000 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 02:45:21 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Todd Redmond s=q20121106; t=1383187642; bh=/LuuKY1Fm9VZ57AKe/fOZFOvTqaIs9KFUNr16kVHSZA=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=M11rHgQ+CHZTkMdvO88S9lj69TVi/acjcVt5+0UxGMmrL6l8G68IW4VNHOTnP+P1j SDW3L8OPew0X/I1LhDJym6ZUARgeVrKV+L9kmgsDqomweI8KcqR/vyNe4C6WZxRJHK wvyYLCNjXN3oaW43nAuoFla2AEX3l4aOPwy+RgbwaF0r7Xsjm5bSl60j/OWzXEdV9c K03ipIeD4ICh7mg3zfthz//L8kco2JDjPFCc/ePdG0/NQL7xWHjBnP3gp/YfDnggJ1 ykcfE6MF4FcMR1D5wyG1aSIwXoJXSj0WJsAiavv1qj3CCW+IlcuQx/nJHig0RM5eP9 MNeKEhwKMXGMg== Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Exhaust Header Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I wanted to buy a header from Stalh as it is the only header on the market for TR3/4s that has "tuned", equal length primaries. They will even make the primaries to your own specified length, or so they say. If you are interested in a Stalh header, educate yourself about their product and order process on their website. I made a header plate/port template exactly as their website describes and sent it to them. I was then sent "a" plate for test fitting before they would build the header. The plate they sent wasn't even close. No ports lined up. When I called to inquire, Mr. Stalh said it was probably one off the shelf. Duh. So exactly why did I send them a template? If they can make you a plate that fits your head/ports, it will be a great header for the money. Perhaps the kit form is the way to go if you can get one. Then you can custom fit it yourself. Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Redmond" To: "john hasty" Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 12:34:38 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Exhaust Header Just checked the Stahl website. They have a header listed for a TR4 under the road race section at $555.00. Am i correct in assuming that the TR3 and TR4 header is the same?B This is for a race motor with a high port head. BTW The website says that they are closing the business at the end of 2013. Todd On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 02:56 PM, john hasty wrote: > Stahl...be sure and have them send the engine plate first so you can > match > to your head. Their pattern is off quite a bit. I also specified 16 > ga > tubes. They are really very nicely made and only a very slight > modification > of the frame was needed at the collector. It will cost you the > better part > of $800.00........... > > > John H. Hasty > Attorney At Law > Guthrie, Davis, Henderson & Staton, P.L.L.C. > 719 East Boulevard > Charlotte, North Carolina 28203-5113 > Tele: (704) 372-5600 > Fax: (704) 372-4601 > E-mail: jhhasty@gdhs.com > www.gdhs.com > PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message (and any > attachments) is > intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information > that > is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL, and/or may contain ATTORNEY WORK > PRODUCT. > If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that > any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you > have > received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the > message > and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you. > IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE: In order to comply with certain IRS > regulations > regarding tax advice, we inform you that, unless expressly stated > otherwise, > any tax advice contained in this communication (including any > attachments) > is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for > purposes of > (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) > promoting, > marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter > addressed herein. > -----Original Message----- > From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Todd Redmond > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 2:41 PM > To: FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Exhaust Header > > Friends > > > Looking for a header for the TR3. What are you using and where did you > get > it? > > > 4 into 1 is preferred > > > Thanks > Todd > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 31 16:28:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E063A43D30 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 16:28:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gerard.telenet-ops.be (gerard.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4525E438B9 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 16:28:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([141.134.4.155]) by gerard.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id jySF1m00P3LgakV0HySKA9; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 23:26:19 +0100 From: "Van Mulders Marcel" To: "'John Hasty'" References: <1254EE2A-759F-4CF0-9B90-BB496853BBD5@gdhs.com> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 23:26:14 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac7WeAio+pIEDO99Sj6rXQCjUT7h4wAD7x/w Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Header Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks. I went to the Stahl website to buy a header. The webside is confirming that Stahl is going out of business at the end of this year. Hope I can still get a header. Marcel -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: John Hasty [mailto:jhhasty@gdhs.com] Verzonden: donderdag 31 oktober 2013 21:29 Aan: Van Mulders Marcel Onderwerp: Header Tube length = 32 1/2 inches Tube ID = 1 5/8 inches Collector ID = 3 1/2 inches Tubes are braised to plate & polished smooth inside. I am sure the tubes go into the collector a few inches, bud can't tell how far. Hope this helps. Cheers! _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 31 18:00:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B435D447DA for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 18:00:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from jacques.telenet-ops.be (jacques.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02F643148 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 17:59:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([141.134.4.155]) by jacques.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id jzxW1m00K3LgakV0JzxZZd; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 00:57:33 +0100 From: "Van Mulders Marcel" To: "'Barry Munson'" References: <1254EE2A-759F-4CF0-9B90-BB496853BBD5@gdhs.com> <9241DAF98EF94BAF8CEB7319AAD9053C@GebruikerPC> <000001ced691$0a162af0$1e4280d0$@ca> Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 00:57:29 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac7WeAio+pIEDO99Sj6rXQCjUT7h4wAD7x/wAAISgHAAAR1M0A== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Header Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Barry, I mailed to Stahl headers, to let them know that I want to buy 2, assembled or kit, and asked how I had to pay : with VISA or by Bank draft. No answer by now, but my mail is only a few hours ago. Maybe I'll have to call like you did. Marcel. -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Barry Munson [mailto:barry@penybryn.ca] Verzonden: vrijdag 1 november 2013 0:29 Aan: 'Van Mulders Marcel' Onderwerp: RE: [Fot] Header Hi Marcel - I called Stahl today and ordered a set. Talked to Judy and she took my order and said that it would take 2 weeks following receipt of payment. It seems that after the notice that they were closing they have been receiving a whole bunch of orders. You will need to send payment - bank draft, or similar, if you want an assembled set. However, for some reason that Judy could not clarify for me, if you order an unassembled kit you can pay with a credit card. Barry. -----Original Message----- From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Van Mulders Marcel Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:26 PM To: 'John Hasty' Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Header Thanks. I went to the Stahl website to buy a header. The webside is confirming that Stahl is going out of business at the end of this year. Hope I can still get a header. Marcel -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: John Hasty [mailto:jhhasty@gdhs.com] Verzonden: donderdag 31 oktober 2013 21:29 Aan: Van Mulders Marcel Onderwerp: Header Tube length = 32 1/2 inches Tube ID = 1 5/8 inches Collector ID = 3 1/2 inches Tubes are braised to plate & polished smooth inside. I am sure the tubes go into the collector a few inches, bud can't tell how far. Hope this helps. Cheers! _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/barry@penybryn.ca _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive