From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 19 21:13:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E372580978 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 21:13:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 156DA25848CF for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 21:10:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B49F2C0086 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 21:10:53 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 21:10:51 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Team.Net Archives Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Finally some progress this weekend! Got the links in the postfix imap procmail mharc namazu cron chain all straightened out. Don't worry if you don't understand that part, just know that the messages to the Team.Net lists are now getting added to the archives on an hourly basis once again. Next on the list is getting all the missing months added. But for now, time for a cold one. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 20 11:39:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56C425848F7 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 11:39:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C45258077E for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 11:38:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.72]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id UgiB1o0081ZMdJ4A2henge; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 17:38:47 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-208v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.176.218]) by omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Uhen1o0084j68Km8chenFe; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 17:38:47 +0000 Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 17:38:46 +0000 (UTC) From: toodamnfunky@comcast.net To: fot (Win)/8.0.3_GA_5664) Thread-Topic: Not so funny TR4 tranny noise Thread-Index: TMM3s/NfTx35iOIIWlgvlsh81byuvw== s=q20140121; t=1405877927; bh=9Wy7fbogOejs4ZKcULeKr02sXBICgYM1PxpJ7z5KJl4=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=qtxzpml6UCBdsNqgYk5L3clIiR7rVsgUhmifuswajma3wpMOVlxrvfO8+LBHtQXwE ZIYvFO679Xh4D/VBaZvXfp4rxDuXxRWLoPLs5Z8Y36776VKoNfhNXuJJuipXSYWkYP bskgcFR5iWi9jXOmLy4vEzJZTjTQiZNZ5jn7Bnext3iEDOCxson+oZTt+H5Wb6AQu/ wZNlZYIv529s9VXsoL7a6fxwvVxN0PI55PzI/gPy1ekiaU7tgjPhnJnqHNVZvAKOxw WL7PIKJwxYxsjHlWIRWypSCIK0Xn6zOpWdUzLSYM+7X0I/zcc0qFNXwnLViif9ochM NqdgrEgnXWjoA== Subject: [Fot] Not so funny TR4 tranny noise Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FoT, My transmission had developed a high pitched whine but only in regular drive. I could only hear it coasting in nuetral possibly in part to the exhaust noise but when I engage the OD it goes away. The the volume and pitch are definetly related to axle speed. I use anB J type OD. It seems on the surface to be an overdrive issue but I'm not assuming anything. Any thoughts ? Thanks as always for the input, jim g. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 20 14:26:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9C725808C0 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 14:26:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F3925800CF for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 14:26:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 552E12C00AD for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 14:26:21 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 14:26:20 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: fot References: <1852959583.224935.1405877926948.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] Not so funny TR4 tranny noise Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: > FoT, > My transmission had developed a high pitched whine but only in regular drive. My first thought is a bearing in the overdrive, most likely the large diameter but rather thin one. I'll see if I can come up with a link to a picture of it. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 20 14:30:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8CD25808C5 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 14:30:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F4A725800CF for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 14:29:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2CF2C00AD for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 14:30:17 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 14:30:16 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: fot References: <1852959583.224935.1405877926948.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] Not so funny TR4 tranny noise Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Number 67: http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=32778 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 20 16:37:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90AE52580975 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 16:37:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm36-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm36-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.238.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E232580470 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 16:36:54 -0600 (MDT) s=s2048; t=1405895834; bh=Ynz3293cNPd+Z8yKWOhvSmmmSiyCd0yAU3bE4PNiOTg=; b=NFIPsHethQVM+iFRa8M8M89DdK4hC8Y/TFo54C4n5+TKOAcb1yd94G02kfp9+11IlY8b/uOPk68JEWGTh6nOL9MprHdz5Zd2F+PDWHwosateAcUe6Flfm2KD+0EMHy8PigXF+AXGUvUgiJXX2xpa61vtJ7moe2osKrN6gldU0pptXawo61tW91A+clVuBleh5AwTWnUM6FEtnRnICgBtjoxCD5Claa8LtptZPfZS3BK75M2msJl3xOUCrapdo6RuB43WHbevszzqM4YlpHZdnsgCRMC22doer7CnenBsICnYVQiqhzl8xWbqnPU2bCDmQbSPdBBVDNs0mePPZhHJWg== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=VPmN2/WX+Go4UITKunA8eNb7BGgrLI8zWxSuwGS8jgt4Vy2ChM2ds5QIHY9EtU/rOHldfrfMQ+nRLhVnpZBXzockR2XmsWgQT41lGqgJufjXLWpnXR6K17p8+nPRv8Mxsh4pYooYujx5eh3BIxEd4K0nO5/aDeO2ZFc2CP2+c5YUCqA4zPC3bvKzhzulEYX7ilHEJRNvy59WXl/rYqEKdkn7FCp7uNDQrrR9UmTlARy8mY77wrX+MubeSXuaszaW0iZm3pRLm2V9hiVa0zeb4hCJC+iO7GwozZhBbRltrC+cD8bzDPeH7EA2kRDMJFewBBGzyUyGOn0Pl+7XjtO9Mg==; Received: from [98.139.212.150] by nm36.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jul 2014 22:37:14 -0000 Received: from [68.142.230.74] by tm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jul 2014 22:37:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp231.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jul 2014 22:37:14 -0000 s=s1024; t=1405895834; bh=Ynz3293cNPd+Z8yKWOhvSmmmSiyCd0yAU3bE4PNiOTg=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Subject:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=gGgWxzBAydfWctyjo1zHMJ5QZC8dR3AgrU4MzTin0qBSjG4G+VYW3EpblEbo//O2k+zypw8X4B9lD1lSybnjzNmcS52k7PRdv4kNaa2pa2/MuaiSPVKDUWinuv0HWQxza/jV7DbGPuK1TKrEaTWxVia6uez3R3W5pTKg1MEdPaY= hzBGLaf1FeeVWLn5k4j2zj6xpKcfVQEaFKYWewoHZXiL.zMS58kUOf_cKl_u y7GX_QvDUw_rH8TWIk.wnaOklV16lu7PALv04ERjkTB5FqNnc0OEPB3.mEBm xwgIyiaaHRL_k64S91YNxnzCFnzN1TJhv2zFwFV.oAoBKmPTS_qseH8yCYoJ fGHZRAXhdPAISQuw0stvIYQYS9955rYbG_p9TwCMHlZ4EMOyhsVfAecuaSR0 wVIT39e2RPdEYDpmmIEARKGvtu6VKWXTtZs5rf6Bg4IP4qcsQ9Ftc29SumF1 D7r_0w4jeDLu4u.hSQw93ywU0HO6xbfY7dLgN9obmgyWAwd6qD5DXsPbmcYL 6n9Br7JVElVC2dvlIappG1i4hKluYqwbQkSghSH4PtmfLluTSan5c8ybGNIV 6kxqYms2QgJU1Yf6JL8fOyxZz9o_JBqQZRQ9OEJZfs6CXG0aytJV.9rE4rLC 1DMsVGAna8_FrY6FhLkoZ_bZK6TRN.oCw3STl From: Jaxon Racing Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 18:37:01 -0400 To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] Braille battery Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Looking at a Braille battery for the HP spitfire 1147... MSD ignition . What is the recommended battery ? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 20 17:08:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A2B72580A00 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 17:08:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D062580955 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 17:08:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [65.29.151.190] ([65.29.151.190:32995] helo=[192.168.100.99]) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id B9/81-27317-BFB4CC35; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 23:08:43 +0000 From: Allen Washatko To: Jaxon Racing Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 18:08:42 -0500 References: <4C618D54-E914-482B-90A4-78DE313A84E7@yahoo.com> Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Braille battery Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Just installed one. 17 lbs and 720 cold cranking amps. Nicely fabricated. You can buy their aluminum battery hold down bracket also well made. Just came back from Road America and it performed flawlessly. I run an alternator so no problem with charging. Would highly recommend the Braille based on my recent experience. The only advice is to figure out how you will run your battery leads and then buy the battery configuration that fits your layout (location of POS and NEG terminals). Also, the battery hold down is universal which they don't mention in the literature. I got mine from Summit and they had a discount coupon. Shipping was free. Good luck. Allen On Jul 20, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Jaxon Racing wrote: > Looking at a Braille battery for the HP spitfire 1147... MSD > ignition . What > is the recommended battery ? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/awashatko@wi.rr.com > > Allen & Jody Washatko 1971 TR6 - Number 6 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 20 17:27:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38FAA25809D6 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 17:27:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E4025808F9 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 17:26:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [65.29.151.190] ([65.29.151.190:33831] helo=[192.168.100.99]) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 05/EF-07747-3505CC35; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 23:27:15 +0000 From: Allen Washatko To: Friends of Triumph Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 18:27:15 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Road America - The Hawk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FoT, The TR6 made its first appearance after a 6 year hiatus this weekend at RA. One of only three Triumphs in the entire event. The car went through a 1-1/2 year frame-off rebuild. The car is now Ferrari red with white stripes. After working out a few bugs, we went on to place 3rd in class on Sunday. We had 51 cars in the group with 30 Porsches and 5 Datsuns. I think we surprised a number of the entrants. Thanks to Daniel and Richard Gehweiler. Hope to see some other Triumphs at the September event. Allen Allen & Jody Washatko 1971 TR6 - Number 6 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 20 17:42:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 563052580A2A for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 17:42:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d06.mx.aol.com (omr-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0853025808F9 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 17:41:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-aan02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-aan02.mx.aol.com [172.27.19.78]) by omr-d06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 23B2D70004107; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 19:42:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-aan02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 7C30F38000083; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 19:42:01 -0400 (EDT) References: <7504BE0A-0F49-48B8-9511-2F342FE4F3BF@wi.rr.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 18:42:00 -0500 To: Allen Washatko x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1405899722; bh=/yKdIwX+pAdwUoKTp41DNxvPqX9qs7xJ8uML2gGlgSI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=FPsdzyKefEavNJxr0LmI3dihm6ZokFAtVBXOIeXltCZ4y7Xxv51v1dHtdCuNX1Ra8 m2T3IKeHkSZX8mcKOFnpyV3pb0a2AuANzKkZAVlyuz+L4CFdJx2pQDze2KQZ9Kwxwp avrgnTUa9u686QSWDF7A8HqEmFIptADijMAd4MwA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b134e53cc53c914d6 Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Road America - The Hawk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net :-) see you in September. Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Jul 20, 2014, at 6:27 PM, Allen Washatko wrote: > > FoT, > > The TR6 made its first appearance after a 6 year hiatus this weekend > at RA. One of only three Triumphs in the entire event. The car went > through a 1-1/2 year frame-off rebuild. The car is now Ferrari red > with white stripes. After working out a few bugs, we went on to place > 3rd in class on Sunday. We had 51 cars in the group with 30 Porsches > and 5 Datsuns. I think we surprised a number of the entrants. Thanks > to Daniel and Richard Gehweiler. > > Hope to see some other Triumphs at the September event. > > Allen > > > Allen & Jody Washatko > 1971 TR6 - Number 6 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 20 17:42:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486972580B23 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 17:42:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD7725808F9 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 17:41:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6593A2C00F3 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 17:42:13 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 17:42:12 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: fot References: <1852959583.224935.1405877926948.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <53CC26D8.6000307@bradakis.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Not so funny TR4 tranny noise Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mark J Bradakis wrote: > Number 67: > > http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=32778 I take that back. I've been going back and looking at the diagram. The bearing I pointed out would not be turning in direct drive, as another list member confirmed. But the clutch bearings are often bad in overdrives I have worked on. I've not been inside a J type for quite some time. The last one was on a TR6. Shortly after I got it working the car's owner committed suicide. Hopefully not related to my work on his car. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 20 18:01:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18CB82580B6B for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 18:01:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm12-vm9.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm12-vm9.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.248]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A3312580B23 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 18:00:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.158] by nm12.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jul 2014 00:01:02 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.139] by tm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jul 2014 00:01:02 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jul 2014 00:01:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 51652 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jul 2014 00:01:01 -0000 s=s1024; t=1405900861; bh=udmKjgOjfx8cmDgOPuZl23vYKy4DYFcIRUem9I85ccY=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EjtJ1aLZT/fu9hHFTEJWARvTx8EXx3dYyeT8Cr3outGQEH+fRdyDVM5oPbsoeATyZYkLBlHyh/gf7SmcDqk2v5orMyDjmO6RXl4BgSJ+J+6Y39pqYpqk0Q41C8/Pk/yYUhltqcd6p+uECQRgryfC1ETqgt5aUpKKc+zOaj7XaVQ= epbLOiXu7vx4DTi0gZOMgqKAEzOqKu2uyGmPE4dt379gHAaT0HK4ZCSHvz80 IxL67eCczsRJta6ffG7t9B596jd1GKmPfteiAsXq6x09omTv_6.KOV._Ceal 62newHjmZ18XPtP5IBZ5EAHjmsZtJjFxBsI4t7bNNsjIeYfiSNavbPRiYlU_ 4e6KDWnMSovixkUi.2gXS5Z02LE590c_Cel9kiyNVb0CY9WJi8KHD6o0VUef WNTYwCmGRebL2wYgDJg3sfPTHHSbuUI2kKZ_Yya1.6AXn.Wd2TBRbI4r7v2H 19pNJrpd_ORSvPGwJKtOB383MiEd3SWgvz3bPC3oMzw10eokvf1nyYPJzYJF .0HjGaE1QBlj5EIvbP1Tt0ffJ5b8T4sQtx_VFg9ac6rcSkvnqFga_NJvo.rL nR3JSAUd3xFIJ38Kkgfg5T_M38_VxeGP4ERu0J9aaA7L1rrPzkxOaDynlAk0 V4YYqH1ajzk3iDY3X.J5z6kJrwivJ.abRPOlOWzEfvzQpxJljmCi8Qp0rSEb qnve8B_.fuGgdLlf6X4lOtj3k5rhNI0j11EsD2BNCAbvnPiTk85ddQSDtADf Aw8j4my65 Received: from [107.128.25.97] by web181206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 17:01:01 PDT YW1hemluZyHCoCB0aGFua3MgdG8gRk9UwqAgLi4uwqAgQm9iYnkKCgoKT24gU2F0dXJkYXksIEp1bHkgMTksIDIwMTQgMTA6MDggQU0sIEthcyBLYXN0bmVyIDxrYXNrYXN0bmVyQGdtYWlsLmNvbT4gd3JvdGU6CiAKCgpBc2hsZXkgaXMgYSBnZWF0IGd1eSwgd29uZGVmdWwgbWVjaGFuaWMgYW5kIGEgcmVhbCByYWNlci7CoCBIYXBweSB0byBnaXZlCmhpbSBoZSBzZWNvbmQuIEhlIGFsc28ga25vd3MgbW9yZSBhYm91dCBydW5uaW5nIEdUUCBjYXJzIHRoYXQgbW9zdCB5b3UKd2lsbMKgIGV2ZXIgbWVldC4KCioBMAEBAQE- References: <08ee01cfa35e$402e6770$c08b3650$@fooddude.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 17:01:01 -0700 From: Bobby Whitehead To: Kas Kastner , FoodDude Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination: Ashley Page Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net amazing! thanks to FOT ... Bobby On Saturday, July 19, 2014 10:08 AM, Kas Kastner wrote: Ashley is a geat guy, wondeful mechanic and a real racer. Happy to give him he second. He also knows more about running GTP cars that most you will ever meet. *Never be beaten by equipment.* On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 7:32 AM, FoodDude wrote: > Turns out my 64 Spit Racer has quite some history. One of the first to > race > her was Ashley Page out of NC. We connected recently and went through all > the old log books and confirmed he was one of the original people to race > in > the (now) #24. > > > > He is building a new Spit racer with his grandson, and we hope to see him > on > track soon. > > > > He and the car are featured, along with some pics, in Kas's book > "Historical > & Technical Guide for Triumph Cars". > > > > Please second and let's welcome him in. > > > > Thanks, > > Dave > > #24 BRG 1964 1296 Spitfire EP/FP > > #22 Green 1970 TR6 Chump/LeMons/WRL > > #30 Yellow/Orange 1971 Porsche 914-4 EP/DP "The Pursuit Porsche" > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/igofaster@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 20 18:27:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D232580BAB for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 18:27:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE5125804F1 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 18:27:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Unnk1o0020cQ2SLA4oTdc5; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 00:27:37 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.11] ([24.4.249.195]) by omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id UoTc1o00d4Dhf3s8WoTdlz; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 00:27:37 +0000 References: <7504BE0A-0F49-48B8-9511-2F342FE4F3BF@wi.rr.com> From: Dave Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 17:27:38 -0700 To: Allen Washatko s=q20140121; t=1405902457; bh=ZU8aT9o0EcjUhmNtL6qLrNv+CBZgB5VmIarEJIDGv7s=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=V3bZf2W3kk+1Q3ta6umDtfa9vkEYnvT44PzAwADuS/5ZneXTOqpXs8kwqTGZ65GCN UFSRdWG0abVAjpj6FMdCEOIj7hEuIj0CCbn2AVWVr2g2tTB8gslP5J106hhQDGKMB3 84X5sd3iIr/sOnFHdJTKxq77oUXnxmS1RXT84MaYv50YPX7UiwqUkmRC3wNQRaIxo8 VcrsaguDBl+ItlVjGDooL41DCdJWMihXrX1YBy73U3ELEJVAXWWf09CaqTu+x10ycO 67Cgzh8NUvaWvKXso1NHiMiIl7QsG5eTBdvTn/Ab7W02mTijkNkmCwKj15eswvTiDC zGnCIS/X/cPcw== Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Road America - The Hawk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Allen, Congratulations for the successful race weekend. Great job waving the Triumph flag so high. I also have the Braille 17 in my TR3. Purchased through Summit, must have been almost 4 years ago. Great results so far, better knock on wood and order another soon. Keep up the good work and sharing your experiences with your Triumph Friends. Dave H. Sent from my iPad > On Jul 20, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Allen Washatko wrote: > > FoT, > > The TR6 made its first appearance after a 6 year hiatus this weekend > at RA. One of only three Triumphs in the entire event. The car went > through a 1-1/2 year frame-off rebuild. The car is now Ferrari red > with white stripes. After working out a few bugs, we went on to place > 3rd in class on Sunday. We had 51 cars in the group with 30 Porsches > and 5 Datsuns. I think we surprised a number of the entrants. Thanks > to Daniel and Richard Gehweiler. > > Hope to see some other Triumphs at the September event. > > Allen > > > Allen & Jody Washatko > 1971 TR6 - Number 6 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 20 18:58:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D1B258494F for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 18:58:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 991F72580A63 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 18:58:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.148.60.115] ([98.148.60.115:55004] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 72/88-27317-AC56CC35; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 00:58:51 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Mark J Bradakis'" , "'fot'" Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 17:58:52 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac+kdFn9bDykWrlLRkGBQYnkrCDTzwACZjNA Subject: Re: [Fot] Not so funny TR4 tranny noise Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > I take that back. I've been going back and looking at the > diagram. The bearing > I pointed out would not be turning in direct drive, as > another list member confirmed. I don't believe that is correct. In direct drive, the springs force the clutch to the rear, where it engages with the annulus, forcing both of them to turn at driveshaft rpm. So the center of the bearing (which is fastened to the clutch plate) turns, while the outside does not. In OD, though, the hydraulics pull the clutch forward against the brake ring, so it and the sun gear stop turning, meaning that bearing does not turn either. Then the planetary gears turn around the sun gear, forcing the annulus (output) to turn faster than the planetary carrier (which is driven by the input shaft). Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 20 21:59:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1F402584B57 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 21:59:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail301c9.megamailservers.com (mail468c9.megamailservers.com [69.156.243.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B702580AFC for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 21:58:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.83.190.188] (166-205-067-219.mobile.mymmode.com [166.205.67.219] (may be forged)) by mail301c9.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id s6L3x4du001409 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 23:59:09 -0400 From: A Page Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 23:58:51 -0400 To: "fot@autox.team.net" reip=0.000, cl=2, cld=1, fgs=64 Subject: [Fot] MK III / MKIV vs 1500 for vintage racing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Today it began - grandpa and Van (grandson) launched a full assault on a $200 1500. It's in very good condition actually. We will have to put new floor pans in it but that doesn't appear to be very difficult. The plan is to put a 1300 in it for vintage racing. I would rather have had a MK III (and If I can find a long day to drive there and back there are two waiting to be had) but this one jumped out only 2 miles from my shop and was just too easy to grab. If we end up with a MKIII then we have extra suspension pieces, brake calipers and other parts as spares from this one. Otherwise this one may work unless I learn in the process that we would be better off with a MK III, which is the purpose of this post - to ask questions and learn the difference. I have done some web searching on this and know the MK IV is about 150#'s heavier than the MK III in stock trim and the 1500 is about 180#'s heavier. The 1500 has some chassis extensions to support the body and bumper in the rear but those could be cut away. I think I see some extra weight in the front end at the bumper mounts. I'm sure there is more. I'm thinking a lot or all of the weight difference is in DOT smog and safety requirements, nicer (ie heavier) trim and maybe a little in sound insulation. Hopefully someone (or many) will know the answer to these questions: First, are the MK IV and 1500 the same - car body and chassis wise - with different badging and trim - Yes / No Stripped out to racing trim is the body / chassis of the 1500 or MK IV heavier than a MK III? I believe HSR lets you run a combined driver / car weight number by adding a given amount for the driver to the base min of 1432. Is it difficult to hit that weight and the minimum weights without driver on the MK IV? SVRA weight is 1432 - is that harder to hit with a MKIV than a MK III? Is there any other reason or reasons that make a MK III more desirable? Thanks for any help with this! Ashley Page _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 21 01:41:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27FF62580B65 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 01:41:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from albert.telenet-ops.be (albert.telenet-ops.be [195.130.137.90]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC640258054F for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 01:40:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([141.134.4.155]) by albert.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id UvhC1o00F3LgakV06vhF18; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 09:41:15 +0200 From: "Marcel Van Mulders" To: "'Kas Kastner'" References: <08ee01cfa35e$402e6770$c08b3650$@fooddude.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 09:41:08 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac+jY1rzpaofvcchRsKt0GbqlJrxVQBUj7Ww Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination: Ashley Page Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've read the feature in the "Historical and Technical Guide" more than once, because it's explaining so clearly what can be done on the brakes and the possible gain in laptimes. Fifty years on, the picture of Ashley Page in the book will not be suitable for a new driving licence I suppose. Marcel -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens Kas Kastner Verzonden: zaterdag 19 juli 2014 17:07 Aan: FoodDude CC: A Page; FOT Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Nomination: Ashley Page Ashley is a geat guy, wondeful mechanic and a real racer. Happy to give him he second. He also knows more about running GTP cars that most you will ever meet. *Never be beaten by equipment.* On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 7:32 AM, FoodDude wrote: > Turns out my 64 Spit Racer has quite some history. One of the first > to race her was Ashley Page out of NC. We connected recently and went > through all the old log books and confirmed he was one of the original > people to race in the (now) #24. > > > > He is building a new Spit racer with his grandson, and we hope to see > him on track soon. > > > > He and the car are featured, along with some pics, in Kas's book > "Historical & Technical Guide for Triumph Cars". > > > > Please second and let's welcome him in. > > > > Thanks, > > Dave > > #24 BRG 1964 1296 Spitfire EP/FP > > #22 Green 1970 TR6 Chump/LeMons/WRL > > #30 Yellow/Orange 1971 Porsche 914-4 EP/DP "The Pursuit Porsche" > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 21 08:37:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB50F2580BC5 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 08:37:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BEE225800A6 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 08:37:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id bs8so4204142wib.14 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 07:37:54 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4ipfETQj8KyN7WyeWZYaWuwsxAOf2DqqkQhlBl4H9uQ=; b=vwd4776mN2sel3xXTFQbOHs4NJ4K5wbtIEBITOSFfNGY8BhBXPOLpyRmwFvQ1sU+4L 75pnzvMOLhArG9iN+fyrBT2uTRRUVhZ6KXA5Ehrvg42yTo8GdwGel3KmgNRoLgFpSufs /67bpQi1qyt3g5/2bXD+43I6SA/OAutSkooOXeipuUsZ9INwLBA1hnSDzjMsjcQZ1RtJ F2xtIXcCnSk9Mz4Kmt4c2Kh1t84Of1BSSNXkhCti+DBGCxwWlUwn6e2U6RGc8Ibo8LZj G8qzd9qJq0Rf97AFULx1Dd7MqsGZ0W5y5a0E0hTle6RfPn8dJYgsqLCA05u6Zfmgjtoz aoFg== e3mr24184250wjr.12.1405953473467; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 07:37:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.149.238 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 07:37:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 09:37:53 -0500 From: McKearn McKearn To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Thanks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi. I wanted to say thanks to Scott Barr and Joe Alexander for hooking me up with this group. I've been out of racing for quite awhile but the sounds and smells are still really in my blood. Especially the racing fuel...(Hate to think what chemicals are in there). I'm looking forward to getting back to associating with some other Triumph nuts and using a bit of your knowledge. Thanks. Pat _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 21 09:07:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A62F72580318 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 09:07:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d05.mx.aol.com (omr-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C6D2580318 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 09:07:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mbe01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mbe01.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.173]) by omr-d05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id CF4EB70007CE3 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:07:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mbe01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 35E0C3800009A for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:07:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 10:07:37 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1405955258; bh=YMVteKVWdw7BQamEKQxHrJl/xrP9eGcosr1p7IKoVro=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=h54DOR1hNmSYIiqYNALOtD2eG8xpixWrrbCiMTOUSs3vGmAgtpLK63KEistHZRcog nbF2a/xtT2QF6ERn1kwE8pDkgj0b9yuo/VbH7PWi5HPSGtW1DdBbpfR2V45/C+tOiB wQfup7mU8SQFYynLIuV4Z6y/w04KE1ilP07B7VVA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afead53cd2cba48f6 Subject: [Fot] Grattan. VSCDA August Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT, Who in the FOT is going to Grattan? It might be a chance for an informal get together. Regards, Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 21 09:44:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A592584C30 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 09:44:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy8-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy8-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.33.93]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3107F2584BEA for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 09:44:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 25270 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jul 2014 15:44:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by gproxy8.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 2014 15:44:31 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw2 with id V3kN1o00g1NzpT9013kRe1; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 09:44:30 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=pAB71RZMotAA:10 a=yKqyAkVeGwwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=jg_yglyPAAAA:8 a=B6ARQbUIAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=rflJXz6qXxDjlY2ha6AA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=MG4Rcr4xqJIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=psXREZS0v_AA:10 a=hsREURIjXY8A:10 a=r4oE5KcL85AA:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=51121 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1X9FlH-0002Ey-D2; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 09:44:23 -0600 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 10:44:19 -0500 To: Joe Alexander ,fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews References: <0F87A4E2-7C50-4220-A0A1-147F0E47907B@cs.com> {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] Grattan. VSCDA August Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'll be there, and Bill Dentinger is coming too. Tony At 10:07 AM 7/21/2014, Joe Alexander wrote: >FOT, > >Who in the FOT is going to Grattan? > >It might be a chance for an informal get together. > >Regards, > >Joe Alexander >645 1st Street >Jesup, IA 50648 >The-vintage-racer.com >Gasketinnovations.com >Cell: 319.464.4711 >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 21 09:50:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D438C2584C67 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 09:50:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1EF02584C33 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 09:50:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id V35P1o0061GXsucAD3qaF1; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 15:50:34 +0000 Received: from [10.163.194.34] ([70.194.111.97]) by omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id V3qJ1o00H2687GN8U3qNum; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 15:50:32 +0000 References: <0F87A4E2-7C50-4220-A0A1-147F0E47907B@cs.com> <20140721154416.81EE62584C33@autox.team.net> From: Brian Garcia Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 10:50:16 -0500 To: Tony Drews s=q20140121; t=1405957834; bh=+k/GHMuzyraDv0q9ZxHrtvRCQhgrtW9QQieC1mzTlzo=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=LAyYkN4XnZW28vXbkUpSIExuTl/nyANYykBky/FNGEpl95x5hXiyUH4nS/8p0LZAq LrWeadlFKLYrenlCCZyOB2MOgycwt2OyKPiRQxn9C+cOXdR6TnF9GW3C3PAci2PHQy g1fcmtpmw+khS6bgeMLcU+MbGMaFf/MSQQfC1ZxHZNtF8jpzn/ZQPOriL3312u5cuD SmAaErDNUGkXxB3O2o4SjRfa2bXhndDMC/F07ngW69ui9V6CbIp+ErEIyTWok4OlH6 1KAA7GmsAVLY5bkbvzXzh1eq8BUuJ4uPIb4ST0Lyt6sg91hevs/7geMAuyOXxufSGv CFZ3uHO8QgJuA== Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Grattan. VSCDA August Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We'll have at least one if not both of the GT6s there. Brian Garcia Friendly Ghost Racing > On Jul 21, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > > I'll be there, and Bill Dentinger is coming too. > > Tony > > At 10:07 AM 7/21/2014, Joe Alexander wrote: >> FOT, >> >> Who in the FOT is going to Grattan? >> >> It might be a chance for an informal get together. >> >> Regards, >> >> Joe Alexander >> 645 1st Street >> Jesup, IA 50648 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cudapilot@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 21 09:59:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EFCA2584C58 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 09:59:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1lp0141.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.141]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF3425800B6 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 09:59:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.255.189.16) by BLUPR04MB856.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.255.189.19) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.985.8; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 15:59:51 +0000 Received: from BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.189.16]) by BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.189.16]) with mapi id 15.00.0985.008; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 15:59:51 +0000 From: Michael Moore To: Brian Garcia , Tony Drews Thread-Topic: [Fot] Grattan. VSCDA August Thread-Index: AQHPpPWM/PHFqwWkMUW0/1lS0b7IaZuqrSU1gAAB1pA= Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 15:59:51 +0000 References: <0F87A4E2-7C50-4220-A0A1-147F0E47907B@cs.com> <20140721154416.81EE62584C33@autox.team.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [24.165.139.19] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID: x-forefront-prvs: 0279B3DD0D x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(6009001)(24454002)(199002)(53824002)(479174003)(377454003)(13464003)(51704005)(189002)(76576001)(2656002)(33646002)(99286002)(86362001)(106356001)(54356999)(77982001)(99396002)(16601075003)(50986999)(31966008)(106116001)(92566001)(19580405001)(15975445006)(19580395003)(66066001)(74502001)(20776003)(21056001)(74316001)(83322001)(46102001)(80022001)(64706001)(87936001)(76176999)(95666004)(105586002)(74662001)(81342001)(107046002)(15202345003)(101416001)(85852003)(79102001)(85306003)(83072002)(4396001)(81542001)(76482001)(108616002)(24736002); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:BLUPR04MB856; H:BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; LANG:en; Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Grattan. VSCDA August Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'll be coming, 1st time there for me. Just got done racing two weekends at Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix with the Kastner GT6. That's one fast car. Thanks Mike 62 TR4, Race car 63 TR4, Street car Mike & Becky Moore 6050 Ruhl Road Fairview, PA 16415 -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brian Garcia Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 11:50 AM To: Tony Drews Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Grattan. VSCDA August We'll have at least one if not both of the GT6s there. Brian Garcia Friendly Ghost Racing > On Jul 21, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > > I'll be there, and Bill Dentinger is coming too. > > Tony > > At 10:07 AM 7/21/2014, Joe Alexander wrote: >> FOT, >> >> Who in the FOT is going to Grattan? >> >> It might be a chance for an informal get together. >> >> Regards, >> >> Joe Alexander >> 645 1st Street >> Jesup, IA 50648 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cudapilot@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore@mtmcpafirm.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 21 10:33:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8337D2584C95 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 10:33:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d08.mx.aol.com (omr-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.207]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07E625800B6 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 10:32:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mbe01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mbe01.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.173]) by omr-d08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A4355700441CE; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 12:33:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mbe01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id BB6A238000083; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 12:33:03 -0400 (EDT) References: <0F87A4E2-7C50-4220-A0A1-147F0E47907B@cs.com> <20140721154416.81EE62584C33@autox.team.net> From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:33:02 -0500 To: Brian Garcia x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1405960384; bh=oxY+bccvxQhzQXLeGjw5j1MH9ZFBRyXPWG0RIn+EVlE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=MikNXoGhcGgILKnJCfbfWIHVvS3fAArgR8Gq90DxIk1m0dsrgzyfV+fDd0kwymuhg 1PuKcgOQ4ykRPyTsdRyzrgH14SpAmM7at72P70ObxW3yAi30CknNM/OaaGP+cmug69 pKfoU+A2LLUSTkszT03zdpm5vMPsIPO7EAzGlwQ8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afead53cd40bf3c79 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Grattan. VSCDA August Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Excellent! Maybe Clark would be interested, too. Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Jul 21, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Brian Garcia wrote: > > We'll have at least one if not both of the GT6s there. > > Brian Garcia > Friendly Ghost Racing > >> On Jul 21, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Tony Drews wrote: >> >> I'll be there, and Bill Dentinger is coming too. >> >> Tony >> >> At 10:07 AM 7/21/2014, Joe Alexander wrote: >>> FOT, >>> >>> Who in the FOT is going to Grattan? >>> >>> It might be a chance for an informal get together. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Joe Alexander >>> 645 1st Street >>> Jesup, IA 50648 >>> The-vintage-racer.com >>> Gasketinnovations.com >>> Cell: 319.464.4711 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cudapilot@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 21 10:33:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 605942584D11 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 10:33:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d02.mx.aol.com (omr-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26BB22584CA9 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 10:33:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mce02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mce02.mx.aol.com [172.29.27.206]) by omr-d02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 2D1DB702BA775; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 12:33:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mce02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id D4018380000AA; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 12:33:53 -0400 (EDT) References: <0F87A4E2-7C50-4220-A0A1-147F0E47907B@cs.com> <20140721154416.81EE62584C33@autox.team.net> <2cc816919a2042518165f535e1020925@BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:33:54 -0500 To: Michael Moore x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1405960436; bh=KLO1wD3AsOnXD34/CURsntr3MqaeqPQX7K6fJTJI60E=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=Qz9aLngI27wT22QyyHKngItpABn5QDVUM4GG6WmRFMfaX+ufELujNbzktRKRZ7QIa kQofBbMYHIexw1zBINP3aT4gmLoTmUwu5ETzVk4tQCtKe51SvwnPRuHh3YIxt+qkb4 xxLfAcGldzStr1LLup9F606lBjbnwRpk0FP+Ty1M= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d1bce53cd40f15902 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Grattan. VSCDA August Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Most everyone likes this event a lot. Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Jul 21, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Michael Moore wrote: > > I'll be coming, 1st time there for me. > > Just got done racing two weekends at Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix with the > Kastner GT6. That's one fast car. > > Thanks > Mike > > 62 TR4, Race car > 63 TR4, Street car > > Mike & Becky Moore > 6050 Ruhl Road > Fairview, PA 16415 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brian Garcia > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 11:50 AM > To: Tony Drews > Cc: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Grattan. VSCDA August > > We'll have at least one if not both of the GT6s there. > > Brian Garcia > Friendly Ghost Racing > >> On Jul 21, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Tony Drews wrote: >> >> I'll be there, and Bill Dentinger is coming too. >> >> Tony >> >> At 10:07 AM 7/21/2014, Joe Alexander wrote: >>> FOT, >>> >>> Who in the FOT is going to Grattan? >>> >>> It might be a chance for an informal get together. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Joe Alexander >>> 645 1st Street >>> Jesup, IA 50648 >>> The-vintage-racer.com >>> Gasketinnovations.com >>> Cell: 319.464.4711 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cudapilot@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore@mtmcpafirm.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 21 11:34:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3194F2584456 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:34:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471CB2580412 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:34:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.23.238]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0N92000EEOTD2B70@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 12:34:26 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Michael Moore" , "Brian Garcia" , "Tony Drews" References: <0F87A4E2-7C50-4220-A0A1-147F0E47907B@cs.com> <20140721154416.81EE62584C33@autox.team.net> <2cc816919a2042518165f535e1020925@BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:34:18 -0400 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Grattan. VSCDA August Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net What Mike's not telling you is that his car is no slouch either. He did very well at both races. Nice guy, takes his wife, kids, dogs, and parents to the races. His dad drove his Big Healey to Pitt Race. John Styduhar did well also both weekends. The Redhead ran well at Pitt Race (Richard's CV joint rear axles are beautiful and the 4.1 diff really helped) but I spectated at Schenley Park. Can't do everything. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Moore" To: "Brian Garcia" ; "Tony Drews" Cc: Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Grattan. VSCDA August > I'll be coming, 1st time there for me. > > Just got done racing two weekends at Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix with > the > Kastner GT6. That's one fast car. > > Thanks > Mike > > 62 TR4, Race car > 63 TR4, Street car > > Mike & Becky Moore > 6050 Ruhl Road > Fairview, PA 16415 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brian Garcia > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 11:50 AM > To: Tony Drews > Cc: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Grattan. VSCDA August > > We'll have at least one if not both of the GT6s there. > > Brian Garcia > Friendly Ghost Racing > >> On Jul 21, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Tony Drews wrote: >> >> I'll be there, and Bill Dentinger is coming too. >> >> Tony >> >> At 10:07 AM 7/21/2014, Joe Alexander wrote: >>> FOT, >>> >>> Who in the FOT is going to Grattan? >>> >>> It might be a chance for an informal get together. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Joe Alexander >>> 645 1st Street >>> Jesup, IA 50648 >>> The-vintage-racer.com >>> Gasketinnovations.com >>> Cell: 319.464.4711 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cudapilot@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore@mtmcpafirm.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 04:50:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A012584496 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 04:50:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD85B2580912 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 04:49:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [173.88.242.216] ([173.88.242.216:50988] helo=UserTHINK) by dnvrco-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 69/34-28001-0E14EC35; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 10:50:08 +0000 From: "Jerry Van Vlack" To: "'Friends of Triumph'" Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 06:50:09 -0400 a=Za5Z2h6Gp24lUAOq2dOr4Q==:117 a=Za5Z2h6Gp24lUAOq2dOr4Q==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=Y1SWpWQg309ZwO6z7gkA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=X-qSaYivLcUA:10 a=moJTzNI3kjUA:10 a=GkuJfDSoUBwA:10 a=HIhwSMTisKEX_gFfIoMA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Subject: [Fot] Solid U-Joint Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ibd like to replace my TR4A steering column rubber (rag) U-joint with a metal U-joint much the TR6 uses. Is there a racing supplier who sells these and can someone point me in the right direction with a P/N too. The big three think these are made of gold so Ibm looking for a better deal if one is to be had. Thanks JVV _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 05:50:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C572584498 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 05:50:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3CCC2584482 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 05:49:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.165.251.100] (mobile-166-170-020-063.mycingular.net [166.170.20.63]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0N9400J1Z3IL2260@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 11:49:36 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-07-22_04:2014-07-22,2014-07-22,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1407220141 References: From: SCOTT JANZEN Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 07:49:33 -0400 To: Jerry Van Vlack Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Solid U-Joint Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I use the all metal racing u joints Pegasus sells. Don't have a part number but all you need is the shaft diameter and the number of splines. Might have to grind a flat in the shaft for the lock screw depending I which style you use Sent from my mobile device > On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: > > Ibd like to replace my TR4A steering column rubber (rag) U-joint with a > metal U-joint much the TR6 uses. Is there a racing supplier who sells these > and can someone point me in the right direction with a P/N too. The big three > think these are made of gold so Ibm looking for a better deal if one is to > be had. > > Thanks > JVV > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 05:58:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC58925844A0 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 05:58:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012B825809EC for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 05:58:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.23.238]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0N9400HS83Y9JX50@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 06:58:58 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Jerry Van Vlack" , "'Friends of Triumph'" References: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 07:58:49 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] Solid U-Joint Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Good morning. Pegasus has Borgeson needle bearing u-joints. The size is 9/16 x 36 spline, PN 1492-32, for British cars, as per their catalog. Around $80. Great quality and very rugged. I'm sure Won Hong Lo Enterprises in China is selling cheap knockoffs, but what's your car (or life) worth? I know of one Bozo who used Craftsman 1/2 drive universal jonts in his steering setup on a street rod! They also sell splined steering shafts and shaft supports. NFI. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Van Vlack" To: "'Friends of Triumph'" Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 6:50 AM Subject: [Fot] Solid U-Joint > Ibd like to replace my TR4A steering column rubber (rag) U-joint with a > metal U-joint much the TR6 uses. Is there a racing supplier who sells > these > and can someone point me in the right direction with a P/N too. The big > three > think these are made of gold so Ibm looking for a better deal if one is > to > be had. > > Thanks > JVV > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 09:11:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D3132584DC0 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 09:11:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy2-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy2-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.18.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id F39A925844EE for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 09:11:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 26639 invoked by uid 0); 22 Jul 2014 15:12:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by gproxy2.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 22 Jul 2014 15:12:05 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw2 with id VTBz1o00K1NzpT901TC20R; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 09:12:04 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=yKqyAkVeGwwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=BRcHGUZpco7QogppzL4A:9 a=k9Amov1bAAXeI1qk:21 a=ZGnRMIQmzq-5BxH_:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=0vUscowIxtUA:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=50124 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1X9bjT-0000QF-VP; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 09:12:00 -0600 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 10:11:55 -0500 To: "Bill Tobin" , "Jerry Van Vlack" , "'Friends of Triumph'" From: Tony Drews References: <071E879952104092B997B95DD26844F7@hpd530> {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] Solid U-Joint Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The Borgeson u-joints are the way to go. One thing to be very cognizant of with these - unlike the stock U-Joints, the don't do a through pinch bolt with an interference fit - they use a big set screw instead. You need to make sure the set screw hits an indented area and RED LOKTITE that sucker in place. You do NOT want it falling out. Tony Drews At 06:58 AM 7/22/2014, Bill Tobin wrote: >Good morning. >Pegasus has Borgeson needle bearing u-joints. The size is 9/16 x 36 >spline, PN 1492-32, for British cars, as per their catalog. Around >$80. Great quality and very rugged. I'm sure Won Hong Lo Enterprises >in China is selling cheap knockoffs, but what's your car (or life) >worth? I know of one Bozo who used Craftsman 1/2 drive universal >jonts in his steering setup on a street rod! >They also sell splined steering shafts and shaft supports. >NFI. >Cheers, Bill >----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Van Vlack" >To: "'Friends of Triumph'" >Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 6:50 AM >Subject: [Fot] Solid U-Joint > > >>Ibd like to replace my TR4A steering column rubber (rag) U-joint with a >>metal U-joint much the TR6 uses. Is there a racing supplier who sells these >>and can someone point me in the right direction with a P/N too. The big three >>think these are made of gold so Ibm looking for a better deal if one is to >>be had. >> >>Thanks >>JVV >>_______________________________________________ >>fot@autox.team.net >> >>http://www.fot-racing.com >> >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 09:43:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9182584E2F for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 09:43:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9F32584509 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 09:42:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.23.238]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0N9400J78EBPDI10@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 10:43:03 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Tony Drews" , "Jerry Van Vlack" , "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <071E879952104092B997B95DD26844F7@hpd530> <0N9400L96CW5H7G0@vms172075.mailsrvcs.net> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 11:42:54 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] Solid U-Joint Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tony, it's not a bad idea to drill and tap a hole on the other side of the U-joint from the set screw and put another set screw in. Loctite never hurts too. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Drews" To: "Bill Tobin" ; "Jerry Van Vlack" ; "'Friends of Triumph'" Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Solid U-Joint > The Borgeson u-joints are the way to go. One thing to be very cognizant > of with these - unlike the stock U-Joints, the don't do a through pinch > bolt with an interference fit - they use a big set screw instead. You > need to make sure the set screw hits an indented area and RED LOKTITE that > sucker in place. You do NOT want it falling out. > > Tony Drews > > At 06:58 AM 7/22/2014, Bill Tobin wrote: >>Good morning. >>Pegasus has Borgeson needle bearing u-joints. The size is 9/16 x 36 >>spline, PN 1492-32, for British cars, as per their catalog. Around $80. >>Great quality and very rugged. I'm sure Won Hong Lo Enterprises in China >>is selling cheap knockoffs, but what's your car (or life) worth? I know of >>one Bozo who used Craftsman 1/2 drive universal jonts in his steering >>setup on a street rod! >>They also sell splined steering shafts and shaft supports. >>NFI. >>Cheers, Bill >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Van Vlack" >> >>To: "'Friends of Triumph'" >>Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 6:50 AM >>Subject: [Fot] Solid U-Joint >> >> >>>Ibd like to replace my TR4A steering column rubber (rag) U-joint with a >>>metal U-joint much the TR6 uses. Is there a racing supplier who sells >>>these >>>and can someone point me in the right direction with a P/N too. The big >>>three >>>think these are made of gold so Ibm looking for a better deal if one is >>>to >>>be had. >>> >>>Thanks >>>JVV >>>_______________________________________________ >>>fot@autox.team.net >>> >>>http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net >>_______________________________________________ >>fot@autox.team.net >> >>http://www.fot-racing.com >> >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 09:53:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2266E2584DCE for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 09:53:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3182584502 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 09:53:03 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge02 smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [107.107.188.218] ([107.107.188.218:44925] helo=[10.197.233.25]) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id C9/B4-07747-0F88EC35; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 15:53:24 +0000 References: <071E879952104092B997B95DD26844F7@hpd530> <20140722151219.533262584DEE@autox.team.net> From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 10:53:18 -0500 To: Tony Drews Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Solid U-Joint Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net To add to Tony's recommendations add that bolt to your prerace checklist. That is a very important setscrew. > On Jul 22, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > > The Borgeson u-joints are the way to go. One thing to be very cognizant of with these - unlike the stock U-Joints, the don't do a through pinch bolt with an interference fit - they use a big set screw instead. You need to make sure the set screw hits an indented area and RED LOKTITE that sucker in place. You do NOT want it falling out. > > Tony Drews > > At 06:58 AM 7/22/2014, Bill Tobin wrote: >> Good morning. >> Pegasus has Borgeson needle bearing u-joints. The size is 9/16 x 36 spline, PN 1492-32, for British cars, as per their catalog. Around $80. Great quality and very rugged. I'm sure Won Hong Lo Enterprises in China is selling cheap knockoffs, but what's your car (or life) worth? I know of one Bozo who used Craftsman 1/2 drive universal jonts in his steering setup on a street rod! >> They also sell splined steering shafts and shaft supports. >> NFI. >> Cheers, Bill >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Van Vlack" >> To: "'Friends of Triumph'" >> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 6:50 AM >> Subject: [Fot] Solid U-Joint >> >> >>> Ibd like to replace my TR4A steering column rubber (rag) U-joint with a >>> metal U-joint much the TR6 uses. Is there a racing supplier who sells these >>> and can someone point me in the right direction with a P/N too. The big three >>> think these are made of gold so Ibm looking for a better deal if one is to >>> be had. >>> >>> Thanks >>> JVV >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 10:03:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF972584DD9 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 10:03:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d05.mx.aol.com (omr-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914432580342 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 10:03:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mab02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mab02.mx.aol.com [172.26.249.84]) by omr-d05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E2C2470002C64; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 12:03:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dna003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dna003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.210.201]) by mtaomg-mab02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 06A1238000087; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 12:03:59 -0400 (EDT) References: <071E879952104092B997B95DD26844F7@hpd530> <20140722151219.533262584DEE@autox.team.net> <0C70D74D-1353-487E-9F29-8FF1DA1874B4@austin.rr.com> To: ablake2@austin.rr.com, tony@tonydrews.com Received: from 24.120.231.10 by webmail-va001.sysops.aol.com (149.174.115.81) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 22 Jul 2014 12:03:58 -0400 From: gt6steve@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 12:03:58 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1406045039; bh=do9+QuYdhVPOCkx43xc4+PstkkWnIWUeRgt2oC838QY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Fs8C2EdDsbA/E5GLDTex7VK8dmVwwkxr4j6zKe2X6zG7PKd2MIGOEiDc4xDTGd1kZ ZddbnrOC1JtOMFjYx7XuYqfnzr69yS9IS2p+8UnMR0yKpX/aiHYUnCSh8udAYh8MUE 4GMOgEJW2CI7iWxP7GAZo6Pfds+opzLz3M+/MP5o= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1af95453ce8b6f47ea Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Solid U-Joint Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I just did this on the Jag so I have over two feet of the solid double D shaft and about 15" of the DD tube available for folks doing the conversion. -----Original Message----- From: Greg And Alison Blake To: Tony Drews Cc: Friends of Triumph Sent: Tue, Jul 22, 2014 8:53 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Solid U-Joint To add to Tony's recommendations add that bolt to your prerace checklist. That is a very important setscrew. > On Jul 22, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > > The Borgeson u-joints are the way to go. One thing to be very cognizant of with these - unlike the stock U-Joints, the don't do a through pinch bolt with an interference fit - they use a big set screw instead. You need to make sure the set screw hits an indented area and RED LOKTITE that sucker in place. You do NOT want it falling out. > > Tony Drews > > At 06:58 AM 7/22/2014, Bill Tobin wrote: >> Good morning. >> Pegasus has Borgeson needle bearing u-joints. The size is 9/16 x 36 spline, PN 1492-32, for British cars, as per their catalog. Around $80. Great quality and very rugged. I'm sure Won Hong Lo Enterprises in China is selling cheap knockoffs, but what's your car (or life) worth? I know of one Bozo who used Craftsman 1/2 drive universal jonts in his steering setup on a street rod! >> They also sell splined steering shafts and shaft supports. >> NFI. >> Cheers, Bill >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Van Vlack" >> To: "'Friends of Triumph'" >> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 6:50 AM >> Subject: [Fot] Solid U-Joint >> >> >>> Ibd like to replace my TR4A steering column rubber (rag) U-joint with a >>> metal U-joint much the TR6 uses. Is there a racing supplier who sells these >>> and can someone point me in the right direction with a P/N too. The big three >>> think these are made of gold so Ibm looking for a better deal if one is to >>> be had. >>> >>> Thanks >>> JVV >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 10:09:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648722584F54 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 10:09:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail72c28.carrierzone.com (mail72c28.carrierzone.com [66.175.52.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3CB82584DE1 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 10:09:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail72c28.carrierzone.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail72c28.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id s6MG9aPE023157 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:09:36 +0000 Received: (from webmail@localhost) by mail72c28.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.12.2/Submit) id s6MG9Zog023153; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:09:35 +0000 Received: from d-128-235-182.bootp.Virginia.EDU (d-128-235-182.bootp.Virginia.EDU [128.143.235.182]) by webmail.lumos.net (Webmail 5.0 V.V.I.) with HTTP for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 12:09:35 -0400 From: "=?utf-8?b?Ui4gSm9obiBMeWU=?=" To: Tony Drews , Jerry Van Vlack , Friends of Triumph , "Bill Tobin" Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 12:09:35 -0400 References: <071E879952104092B997B95DD26844F7@hpd530> <0N9400L96CW5H7G0@vms172075.mailsrvcs.net> <9B623A848BE240C785015D0CF7EC2C93@hpd530> User-Agent: Webmail 6.0 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] Solid U-Joint Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm not an engineer, but I was taught that you never want set screws across from each other - then you are just riding on the small tips of the set screws.B If you want to add another set screw, it should be at 90 degrees to the first set screw.B At least, that's what I was taught. Anyone else agree or disagree? Thanks, John On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 11:42:54 -0400, Bill Tobin wrote: Tony, it's not a bad idea to drill and tap a hole on the other side of the > U-joint from the set screw and put another set screw in. > Loctite never hurts too. > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Drews" > To: "Bill Tobin" ; "Jerry Van Vlack" > ; "'Friends of Triumph'" > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:11 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Solid U-Joint > > > > The Borgeson u-joints are the way to go. One thing to be very > cognizant > of with these - unlike the stock U-Joints, the don't do a > through pinch > bolt with an interference fit - they use a big set > screw instead. You > need to make sure the set screw hits an > indented area and RED LOKTITE that > sucker in place. You do NOT > want it falling out. > > > > Tony Drews > > > > At 06:58 AM 7/22/2014, Bill Tobin wrote: > >>Good morning. > >>Pegasus has Borgeson needle bearing u-joints. The size is 9/16 x 36 > >>spline, PN 1492-32, for British cars, as per their catalog. Around > $80. >>Great quality and very rugged. I'm sure Won Hong Lo > Enterprises in China >>is selling cheap knockoffs, but what's your > car (or life) worth? I know of >>one Bozo who used Craftsman 1/2 > drive universal jonts in his steering >>setup on a street rod! > >>They also sell splined steering shafts and shaft supports. > >>NFI. > >>Cheers, Bill > >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Van Vlack" > >> > >>To: "'Friends of Triumph'" > >>Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 6:50 AM > >>Subject: [Fot] Solid U-Joint > >> > >> > >>>Ibd like to replace my TR4A steering column rubber (rag) U-joint with a > >>>metal U-joint much the TR6 uses. Is there a racing supplier who > sells >>>these > >>>and can someone point me in the right direction with a P/N too. > The big >>>three > >>>think these are made of gold so Ibm looking for a better deal if > one is >>>to > >>>be had. > >>> > >>>Thanks > >>>JVV > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>fot@autox.team.net > >>> > >>>http://www.fot-racing.com > >>> > >>>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>>Unsubscribe/Manage: > >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net > >>_______________________________________________ > >>fot@autox.team.net > >> > >>http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>Unsubscribe/Manage: > >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com > > > -- Thanks, John rjl@gt-classics.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 11:00:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C953F2584F7D for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 11:00:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SNT004-OMC2S15.hotmail.com (snt004-omc2s15.hotmail.com [65.55.90.90]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7797E2584494 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 11:00:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT407-EAS231 ([65.55.90.73]) by SNT004-OMC2S15.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Tue, 22 Jul 2014 10:00:30 -0700 References: <071E879952104092B997B95DD26844F7@hpd530> <20140722151219.533262584DEE@autox.team.net> <0C70D74D-1353-487E-9F29-8FF1DA1874B4@austin.rr.com> From: Tony and Annie Garmey Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 11:00:28 -0600 To: Greg And Alison Blake FILETIME=[71E2AAC0:01CFA5CE] Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Solid U-Joint Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Replace the set screws with bolts drilled for loc wire. Also , I place a split collar on the steering shaft in front of the hanger bearing or firewall. Should the bolt ever go awal, shaft can not come off the splines . Tony Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 22, 2014, at 9:53 AM, "Greg And Alison Blake" wrote: > > To add to Tony's recommendations add that bolt to your prerace checklist. That > is a very important setscrew. > >> On Jul 22, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Tony Drews wrote: >> >> The Borgeson u-joints are the way to go. One thing to be very cognizant of > with these - unlike the stock U-Joints, the don't do a through pinch bolt with > an interference fit - they use a big set screw instead. You need to make sure > the set screw hits an indented area and RED LOKTITE that sucker in place. You > do NOT want it falling out. >> >> Tony Drews >> >> At 06:58 AM 7/22/2014, Bill Tobin wrote: >>> Good morning. >>> Pegasus has Borgeson needle bearing u-joints. The size is 9/16 x 36 spline, > PN 1492-32, for British cars, as per their catalog. Around $80. Great quality > and very rugged. I'm sure Won Hong Lo Enterprises in China is selling cheap > knockoffs, but what's your car (or life) worth? I know of one Bozo who used > Craftsman 1/2 drive universal jonts in his steering setup on a street rod! >>> They also sell splined steering shafts and shaft supports. >>> NFI. >>> Cheers, Bill >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Van Vlack" > >>> To: "'Friends of Triumph'" >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 6:50 AM >>> Subject: [Fot] Solid U-Joint >>> >>> >>>> Ibd like to replace my TR4A steering column rubber (rag) U-joint with a >>>> metal U-joint much the TR6 uses. Is there a racing supplier who sells > these >>>> and can someone point me in the right direction with a P/N too. The big > three >>>> think these are made of gold so Ibm looking for a better deal if one is > to >>>> be had. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> JVV >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 11:14:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922952584F89 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 11:14:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f48.google.com (mail-pa0-f48.google.com [209.85.220.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EACF62584494 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 11:14:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id et14so12249368pad.21 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 10:14:22 -0700 (PDT) h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:importance:content-type :mime-version; bh=PbCkkQGDAn4AqaWpNZiNBngh/QFLgek9UE2BT0Lj5ow=; b=oQvtz3ekk/62qlOIx28ONJyTfJVNcSq9pko0aicnqxDMw7WjcpjQp0RAXovVfgn7yq 0lM31f1/jjaakYxZ0hwzJ2FYSHlYkgPEfhExL+kObo/ywrNL07CHc5IL4VEwP8LepJHn Jql3pL+R0iElkZx14X9vsfdOPabk5dFJSucEySpVaSOOBDjK9sASfkScmOyTgmKUt/tg 4yRFJvptg6NK8TdpPZhi/D+hEuuZXSg5uqC2x+dhghcNPJGG/xnvaG+6ux5CDb/6Z1rq Qiw7T6QBAq+5KPJDeZML/jjfnxypdEs0fTAn7E+Nv0u6rTcxBNerqU3NZi7phOyWKEO7 XmFQ== ki5mr3615116pdb.104.1406049262412; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 10:14:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.16] (174-21-2-180.tukw.qwest.net. [174.21.2.180]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id rm9sm3407308pab.4.2014.07.22.10.14.21 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 22 Jul 2014 10:14:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 10:14:21 -0700 (PDT) From: =?utf-8?B?dHJpb3NhbkBnbWFpbC5jb20=?= To: horizonracing@msn.com, ablake2@austin.rr.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Solid U-Joint Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amen to Tony G comment. Mine separated coming out of a high speed sweeper in Spokane. Lucky for me i drifted up an embankment and was able to stop with no damage except to pride. Sent on the new Sprint Network. ------ Original message------ From: Tony and Annie Garmey Date: Tue, Jul 22, 2014 10:01 AM To: Greg And Alison Blake; Cc: Friends of Triumph; Subject:Re: [Fot] Solid U-Joint Replace the set screws with bolts drilled for loc wire. Also , I place a split collar on the steering shaft in front of the hanger bearing or firewall. Should the bolt ever go awal, shaft can not come off the splines . Tony Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 22, 2014, at 9:53 AM, "Greg And Alison Blake" wrote: > > To add to Tony's recommendations add that bolt to your prerace checklist. That > is a very important setscrew. > >> On Jul 22, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Tony Drews wrote: >> >> The Borgeson u-joints are the way to go. One thing to be very cognizant of > with these - unlike the stock U-Joints, the don't do a through pinch bolt with > an interference fit - they use a big set screw instead. You need to make sure > the set screw hits an indented area and RED LOKTITE that sucker in place. You > do NOT want it falling out. >> >> Tony Drews >> >> At 06:58 AM 7/22/2014, Bill Tobin wrote: >>> Good morning. >>> Pegasus has Borgeson needle bearing u-joints. The size is 9/16 x 36 spline, > PN 1492-32, for British cars, as per their catalog. Around $80. Great quality > and very rugged. I'm sure Won Hong Lo Enterprises in China is selling cheap > knockoffs, but what's your car (or life) worth? I know of one Bozo who used > Craftsman 1/2 drive universal jonts in his steering setup on a street rod! >>> They also sell splined steering shafts and shaft supports. >>> NFI. >>> Cheers, Bill >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Van Vlack" > >>> To: "'Friends of Triumph'" >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 6:50 AM >>> Subject: [Fot] Solid U-Joint >>> >>> >>>> Ibd like to replace my TR4A steering column rubber (rag) U-joint with a >>>> metal U-joint much the TR6 uses. Is there a racing supplier who sells > these >>>> and can someone point me in the right direction with a P/N too. The big > three >>>> think these are made of gold so Ibm looking for a better deal if one is > to >>>> be had. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> JVV >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 11:45:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4642584F84 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 11:45:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47742584CEF for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 11:45:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mcc02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mcc02.mx.aol.com [172.26.253.80]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 491FD702C73AB; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 13:45:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dtd004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dtd004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.163.141]) by mtaomg-mcc02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D39A138000082; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 13:45:47 -0400 (EDT) References: <071E879952104092B997B95DD26844F7@hpd530> <20140722151219.533262584DEE@autox.team.net> <0C70D74D-1353-487E-9F29-8FF1DA1874B4@austin.rr.com> To: horizonracing@msn.com, ablake2@austin.rr.com Received: from 72.16.1.205 by webmail-m167.sysops.aol.com (64.12.78.178) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 22 Jul 2014 13:45:47 -0400 From: Bruce Lapierre Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 13:45:47 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1406051148; bh=t7+iqT2TSy9InVJ3tdSUhXyEt7Q6AXJ6cCGyJfU6Ai4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OL/L874RiBgQL4bgGaNqLFny4axpCZL6jEtVMq2RWmJHBXwQoFgeTFWZX3CHtbMxU AcbRo/4ppaF3SP4IcZyPVgbtclz98eaD3XaQ34v8Ywy7caqUIvzOL+iqGdOLQxwwpK tDQ82BJDZrGE431Zq6NfnybZB/bGF76RHQr3NX1k= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afd5053cea34b6d85 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Solid U-Joint Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Now that's definitely the way to go -----Original Message----- From: Tony and Annie Garmey To: Greg And Alison Blake Cc: Friends of Triumph Sent: Tue, Jul 22, 2014 1:36 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Solid U-Joint Replace the set screws with bolts drilled for loc wire. Also , I place a split collar on the steering shaft in front of the hanger bearing or firewall. Should the bolt ever go awal, shaft can not come off the splines . Tony Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 22, 2014, at 9:53 AM, "Greg And Alison Blake" wrote: > > To add to Tony's recommendations add that bolt to your prerace checklist. That > is a very important setscrew. > >> On Jul 22, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Tony Drews wrote: >> >> The Borgeson u-joints are the way to go. One thing to be very cognizant of > with these - unlike the stock U-Joints, the don't do a through pinch bolt with > an interference fit - they use a big set screw instead. You need to make sure > the set screw hits an indented area and RED LOKTITE that sucker in place. You > do NOT want it falling out. >> >> Tony Drews >> >> At 06:58 AM 7/22/2014, Bill Tobin wrote: >>> Good morning. >>> Pegasus has Borgeson needle bearing u-joints. The size is 9/16 x 36 spline, > PN 1492-32, for British cars, as per their catalog. Around $80. Great quality > and very rugged. I'm sure Won Hong Lo Enterprises in China is selling cheap > knockoffs, but what's your car (or life) worth? I know of one Bozo who used > Craftsman 1/2 drive universal jonts in his steering setup on a street rod! >>> They also sell splined steering shafts and shaft supports. >>> NFI. >>> Cheers, Bill >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Van Vlack" > >>> To: "'Friends of Triumph'" >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 6:50 AM >>> Subject: [Fot] Solid U-Joint >>> >>> >>>> Ibd like to replace my TR4A steering column rubber (rag) U-joint with a >>>> metal U-joint much the TR6 uses. Is there a racing supplier who sells > these >>>> and can someone point me in the right direction with a P/N too. The big > three >>>> think these are made of gold so Ibm looking for a better deal if one is > to >>>> be had. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> JVV >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 12:43:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4D02585025 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 12:43:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090702584515 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 12:43:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.23.238]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0N94008S7MP9WY00@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 13:43:58 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: , "Tony Drews" , "Jerry Van Vlack" , "Friends of Triumph" References: <071E879952104092B997B95DD26844F7@hpd530> <0N9400L96CW5H7G0@vms172075.mailsrvcs.net> <9B623A848BE240C785015D0CF7EC2C93@hpd530> <20140722120935.sh2qccx2osg408og@webmail.lumos.net> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 14:43:49 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] Solid U-Joint Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Good point. I'm working on a flail mower and the set screws are 90 degrees apart on the large drive sprocket. I stand corrected. Thanks, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "R. John Lye" To: "Tony Drews" ; "Jerry Van Vlack" ; "Friends of Triumph" ; "Bill Tobin" Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Solid U-Joint I'm not an engineer, but I was taught that you never want set screws across from each other - then you are just riding on the small tips of the set screws. If you want to add another set screw, it should be at 90 degrees to the first set screw. At least, that's what I was taught. Anyone else agree or disagree? Thanks, John On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 11:42:54 -0400, Bill Tobin wrote: Tony, it's not a bad idea to drill and tap a hole on the other side of the > U-joint from the set screw and put another set screw in. Loctite never > hurts too. Bill > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Drews" > To: "Bill Tobin" ; "Jerry Van Vlack" > ; "'Friends of Triumph'" > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:11 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Solid U-Joint > > > > The Borgeson u-joints are the way to go. One thing to be very > cognizant > of with these - unlike the stock U-Joints, the don't do a > through pinch > bolt with an interference fit - they use a big set screw > instead. You > need to make sure the set screw hits an indented area and > RED LOKTITE that > sucker in place. You do NOT want it falling out. > > > > Tony Drews > > > > At 06:58 AM 7/22/2014, Bill Tobin wrote: > >>Good morning. Pegasus has Borgeson needle bearing u-joints. The size is > >>9/16 x 36 spline, PN 1492-32, for British cars, as per their catalog. > >>Around > $80. >>Great quality and very rugged. I'm sure Won Hong Lo Enterprises in > China >>is selling cheap knockoffs, but what's your car (or life) worth? I > know of >>one Bozo who used Craftsman 1/2 drive universal jonts in his > steering >>setup on a street rod! > >>They also sell splined steering shafts and shaft supports. NFI. Cheers, > >>Bill > >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Van Vlack" > >> > >>To: "'Friends of Triumph'" > >>Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 6:50 AM > >>Subject: [Fot] Solid U-Joint > >> > >> > >>>Ibd like to replace my TR4A steering column rubber (rag) U-joint with a > >>>metal U-joint much the TR6 uses. Is there a racing supplier who > sells >>>these > >>>and can someone point me in the right direction with a P/N too. > The big >>>three > >>>think these are made of gold so Ibm looking for a better deal if > one is >>>to > >>>be had. > >>>Thanks > >>>JVV > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>fot@autox.team.net > >>> > >>>http://www.fot-racing.com > >>> > >>>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>>Unsubscribe/Manage: > >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net > >>_______________________________________________ > >>fot@autox.team.net > >> > >>http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>Unsubscribe/Manage: > >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com > > > -- Thanks, John rjl@gt-classics.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 17:50:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 776D12580BB6 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 17:50:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8128A258076C for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 17:50:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [173.88.242.216] ([173.88.242.216:50318] helo=UserTHINK) by dnvrco-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 9E/F2-28001-1D8FEC35; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 23:50:41 +0000 From: "Jerry Van Vlack" To: "'Friends of Triumph'" References: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 19:50:43 -0400 a=Za5Z2h6Gp24lUAOq2dOr4Q==:117 a=Za5Z2h6Gp24lUAOq2dOr4Q==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=M5BARuoqukE2l__RDLgA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=0vUscowIxtUA:10 Subject: Re: [Fot] Solid U-Joint Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wow, great discussion and lots of good information, thanks all. JVV -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Van Vlack Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 6:50 AM To: 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: [Fot] Solid U-Joint Ibd like to replace my TR4A steering column rubber (rag) U-joint with a metal U-joint much the TR6 uses. Is there a racing supplier who sells these and can someone point me in the right direction with a P/N too. The big three think these are made of gold so Ibm looking for a better deal if one is to be had. Thanks JVV _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv@roadrunner.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 17:51:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79BD52580912 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 17:51:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 459732580811 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 17:51:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.148.60.115] ([98.148.60.115:55013] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 6A/91-05460-BF8FEC35; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 23:51:24 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Friends of Triumph'" Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:51:24 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac+lx13uZVEYXdWdSjqX2+ONj45RFgAQBlGQ Subject: Re: [Fot] Solid U-Joint Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > If you want > to add another set screw, it should be at 90 degrees > to the first set screw.B At least, that's what I was taught. > Anyone else agree or disagree? I agree, for what little that is worth. But I might be tempted to find a way to pin it in place rather than relying on a set screw and Loctite. It's no damn fun to lose your steering even at low speeds, I can't quite imagine having it happen on a track! Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 17:55:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DBBF25844AC for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 17:55:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097042584456 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 17:55:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [68.203.13.233] ([68.203.13.233:53152] helo=[192.168.2.10]) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 04/5C-27317-4F9FEC35; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 23:55:32 +0000 References: <6A.91.05460.BF8FEC35@cdptpa-oedge01> From: Bob Kramer Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 18:55:30 -0500 To: Randall Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Solid U-Joint Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I use a spare lower TR6 joint for the top one. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:51 PM, "Randall" wrote: >> If you want >> to add another set screw, it should be at 90 degrees >> to the first set screw.B At least, that's what I was taught. >> Anyone else agree or disagree? > > I agree, for what little that is worth. But I might be tempted to find a way to pin it in place rather than relying on a set screw > and Loctite. It's no damn fun to lose your steering even at low speeds, I can't quite imagine having it happen on a track! > > Randall > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 18:55:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7EA25808DB for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 18:55:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44108258089F for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 18:53:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.23.238]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0N95006G73T84H70@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 19:53:33 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Bob Kramer" , "Randall" References: <6A.91.05460.BF8FEC35@cdptpa-oedge01> <084C8523-C20B-4622-8679-6F603AF72AFC@austin.rr.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 20:53:24 -0400 Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Solid U-Joint Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bob, did you install a Heim joint or similar to support the shaft? I'm thinking about getting rid of the rag joint myself. Thanks, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Kramer" To: "Randall" Cc: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Solid U-Joint >I use a spare lower TR6 joint for the top one. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:51 PM, "Randall" wrote: > >>> If you want >>> to add another set screw, it should be at 90 degrees >>> to the first set screw.B At least, that's what I was taught. >>> Anyone else agree or disagree? >> >> I agree, for what little that is worth. But I might be tempted to find a > way to pin it in place rather than relying on a set screw >> and Loctite. It's no damn fun to lose your steering even at low speeds, >> I > can't quite imagine having it happen on a track! >> >> Randall >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 22:11:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C81C2585065 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 22:11:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm20-vm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm20-vm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.116]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 956952585043 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 22:11:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.160] by nm20.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2014 04:11:39 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.149] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2014 04:11:39 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1025.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2014 04:11:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 76438 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jul 2014 04:11:38 -0000 s=s1024; t=1406088698; bh=/l+UlXtKsCtleW+lkkcG5zrBleJHlCI44g5Vpdd6XbM=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dH/JrW492J5q7z5Vlmp9ltL6oykhuGt03sOsACCCgoweNi/pnDyG6RoN7IDmIW1To6V3UmwG5yRx9hkLhj6JNFKZNhBRm0ili7TJol4VFB75GSd+kAGC3EinekUPgcjzf+LoYCp+odkeQ+LjoBK+enCVf6Pi+zBLD1fCg9AkdAM= jo5y5TgYnClSYF1Lgw0W8X4Am5NnSise_SqCn.JEbi4CVQ7gVAKuXT0UhoVO AM4ioOSl0w2VyB99V0ASW_3uo5jZR5dxUgyKFmVh_RxJ_0JNwN5sxk9o4pDA EDWdQkY4XvGTb0bFIHlPVN.DxF1CNXtjbepF3GlEIAF2p_1VIwamp9TuzfGf ZMDOZJ5VcG4oMCYRa64g2qxdS1VJYGLE4YZELEo1m95NUYqk1W1mX5.UZhQQ EeweLjyYcBlOelWfa2UIVLwYcecrpvQ5X.OUaxmNTRdn3qG3DLGO5Xbrjkto sS.KQt.pkjpPJFbgiDmiLT9tEIKLBgU.PXFKvmMcz5uW8nXqlW3W2yiCHBUq ckIVItYrcJgusPyeNU6YNRbWjx5JbEFlQ5RKQjWOrPsrVvQkxQhNo1EsG5Tt 8GVdGfttfeg5Lfb2denhhSa6AoFWoA6YiLeJMmb_x9l1EYD9.Z7tznqlgs8h Q2eqQRexzeqohpLa6rOXVbkatOPihzB7e4sEl.8BKUZiVz4bbdVxdwhxWrVc 3jabRI5gd1cSN3mZRUQ-- Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web184702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 21:11:38 PDT R3JvdXA6CkkgYW0gY2xlYXJpbmcgbXkgaW52ZW50b3J5IG9mIGJlYXJpbmdzIEkgaGF2ZW4ndCBzZWVtZWQgdG8gdXNlLiBBYm91dCB0ZW4geWVhcnMgYWdvIEkgYm91Z2h0IG91dCBhbm90aGVyIHNob3BzIGludmVudG9yeSBvZiBiZWFyaW5ncyB3aGljaCBjb250YWluZWQgYnVuY2hlcyBvZiBvcmlnaW5hbCBBRS9HbGFjaWVyIGFuZCBWYW5kZXJ2ZWxsIHJvZCBhbmQgbWFpbiBzZXRzIGluIGRpZmZlcmVudCBzaXplcy4gSSB0aG91Z2h0IEkgd291bGQgb2ZmZXIgdGhlIHJlbWFpbmluZyBzZXRzwqB0byB0aGUBMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 21:11:38 -0700 From: EDWARD BARNARD To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Clearing inventory of overstock bearings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Group: I am clearing my inventory of bearings I haven't seemed to use. About ten years ago I bought out another shops inventory of bearings which contained bunches of original AE/Glacier and Vandervell rod and main sets in different sizes. I thought I would offer the remaining sets to the group before putting them on Ebay. I will list them and the first email for a size gets it. All sets are still in their oiled paper wrapping which I have opened to check the size. One set is still in it's paper but I placed them in another brand box because the original box was torn. Any set is $25 except the one in the wrong box which is $20. Spitfire Small journal (1147/1300) bearings: AE/Glacier M3353SA +.010" Main Bearings AE/Glacier M3353SA +.010" Main Bearings (as above but not in original box) AE/Glacier B4374SA +.030" Rod Bearings Vandervell VP899 Std Main Bearings (plastic wrap) Vandervell VP898 +.010" Rod Bearings (plastic wrap) Vandervell VP898 +.020" Rod Bearings (plastic wrap) TR250/TR6 AE/Glacier B6433SA +.030" rod bearings Email if interested in any or all of these. Thanks - Ed _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 05:51:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE722584F77 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 05:51:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F7B258450C for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 05:50:57 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: dnvrco-oedge02 smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.70.248] ([107.14.70.248:18331] helo=dnvrco-web08) by dnvrco-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id C5/4C-29174-6B1AFC35; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 11:51:18 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 11:51:18 +0000 From: To: Randall , Bill Tobin Sensitivity: Normal Jul 2014 11:51:18 +0000 a=wAyFwspFC75BjEd6OtOw1g==:117 a=wAyFwspFC75BjEd6OtOw1g==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=JgyJf2wxOeqRLM7Mil0A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Solid U-Joint Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The steering column is supported under the dash. I used a solid clamp mount with rubber inserts to replace the flimsy stock clamp that used felt. The shaft is self supported under the hood by the strength of the metal u-joints with no issues. I used modified GoodParts steering rack mounts. It is all very solid but a heim joint support would give additional strength. Bob Kramer rkramer3@austin.rr.com ---- Bill Tobin wrote: > Bob, did you install a Heim joint or similar to support the shaft? > I'm thinking about getting rid of the rag joint myself. > Thanks, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Kramer" > To: "Randall" > Cc: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 7:55 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Solid U-Joint > > > >I use a spare lower TR6 joint for the top one. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:51 PM, "Randall" wrote: > > > >>> If you want > >>> to add another set screw, it should be at 90 degrees > >>> to the first set screw.B At least, that's what I was taught. > >>> Anyone else agree or disagree? > >> > >> I agree, for what little that is worth. But I might be tempted to find a > > way to pin it in place rather than relying on a set screw > >> and Loctite. It's no damn fun to lose your steering even at low speeds, > >> I > > can't quite imagine having it happen on a track! > >> > >> Randall > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 06:41:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F8B258453B for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 06:41:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm10-vm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm10-vm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.158]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E269258450E for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 06:41:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.165] by nm10.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2014 12:42:00 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.233] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2014 12:42:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1004.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2014 12:42:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 99407 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jul 2014 12:42:00 -0000 s=s1024; t=1406119320; bh=hFJ0eCjpVXW1fkQh9SLUr1iqmMFh0pUK/ftvjilAtUw=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=un1MUGAcQkG6ziDxT4eltQb11hYPjKWUPWaHphNnxtEiPjDpFTetGe88lYQIqXbt8UPyNzlBm7EKVJdkYgePgLDd655iUMO7Iib9kY1f+Z6NNUiMkdW8ZeRke6sewBGBfQr0bMvBSRoBds3myn5+uCv43XJUm7pFGqe9pHvNK3Q= xiYFrunUUZev2ZPKpQHbj0Kx8ByYFKMU3YTCFVqCUXfHh0Ne8..3jX7FnT95 20KZnELUEY2DNb7WyqElLNpnhI9_eL.GYLiMr_DTnT4PIhgnrBXgOqpgME1k _WgBITO.Hv..HnClKrQw3wjbXB_w6qQ6cck4nzrf5NRbIag32BaKx5KjnVMk DXeDyXD8ykbKtG3FjN6q8_tGdNsM04VBl.b9agPoFJaL_JtQeVHhB57x0TzG Derfj3BiG79Y1fyC0RYUXnMmf3oCoX8GUrI.7WRV56LtKS1SvK_iL6TUWaWr jmIu5u5JIDXqdN3Tq_HFHwa6J36EIS7TiUN2SCE_FFzCbkagrp4MvvA_qS8L B29HV6xC_lqLARtr7kb.ckiqstQTsTdhXB_vc5lQI0Yqm13GTgQHqE9yvrAe sM71aT3tNMc9K_5u6Eu3Sx74l0Pobbr5TCi7Q9dLq78qHIMjfHdSGXYGFtf7 OhQlefjPFHRHvZfwifUL6gmo_gRI9rwhtWHGYBEq9wLyePi94EuDlugiZqpZ mtz1GGZBNlN5.alcYTQ-- Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web184705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 05:42:00 PDT R3JvdXA6CkFsbCBvZiB0aGUgU3BpdGZpcmUgYmVhcmluZ3MgYXJlIGdvbmUuIFRoZSBvbmx5IGJlYXJpbmcgc2V0IGxlZnQgaXMgdGhlIEFFL0dsYWNpZXIgVFI2ICsuMDMwIHJvZCBiZWFyaW5nIHNldC4KQ2FuJ3QgZXZlbiBzYXkgdGhlIGVhc3QgY29hc3RlcnMgZ290IHRoZW0gZmlyc3QuLi5tb3N0IHdlbnQgdG8gYW4gZWFybHkgcmlzZXIgaW4gQ0EuClRoYW5rcyAtIEVkATABAQEB Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 05:42:00 -0700 From: EDWARD BARNARD To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Bearings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Group: All of the Spitfire bearings are gone. The only bearing set left is the AE/Glacier TR6 +.030 rod bearing set. Can't even say the east coasters got them first...most went to an early riser in CA. Thanks - Ed _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 13:50:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F267625846BC for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 13:50:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm23-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm23-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.57]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A765625846A6 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 13:50:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.100.116] by nm23.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2014 19:50:39 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.199] by tm107.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2014 19:50:39 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1057.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2014 19:50:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 19079 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jul 2014 19:50:39 -0000 s=s1024; t=1406145039; bh=hV5R5hbTJbS9UEoXqY3yiZ3ryd/Dlq5M+WCi2e9XfGg=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UMzhVO/zHT3yEDOWX1uN2w5hTzFmTnNk/spDribGFHIrbAFMORwoDRG6D2xC3sSCzhUs+B+gyyq01Pgeas4J+nJOnGFQ5seWP5t3Yz91xbPW1ETqmo+VqAax2Xfs8iLAodiTQGYQyOOx4NBx/qa+Z/x1iReGBz6/fclrPm1Izag= sEv_SeeOpjVkZ1JNqnqLvU6IKIm_fRkkn.DkNq1.gBQu3XdXIO4k2GoZGgze 0z7XIv2fFgTlX3T6K5Rj8MRNEPJhedG4Qfs66X6KoFu2cKCMB_jZopgUalIp ACzcIiK3ZziP28sOwuhUEwl57miwWPsRNdfytua2Aci8n6sx6YOOEQ80izjz FEvxWHlbm1_lTMxvSn5rrjoKsQzvikNMwViuPp6GfVhF3KEIMRCt6iLnOu_A kyuyZInSg60_NlFDi7fxvA5g358T6zVqhEs.uYlO67ygzp9OW4lZoMKbCj5P j7M4F81ObxfHovNZgo11JYKLuZJlkepyDGzwcl89YzvIVxcSGO.f3aNIvogB Sd70QZtiM2SsgeJ1DnYaGVScAtIVYhp8oMAIn7jtr5YdnbT2sxYoVBILipR3 PR83sRfLmm81eTXasKz3.gSakAXKiDLz6pXkp5He2HCYbLEHuv.4J6nVdhTS ktj5VHlGAWcVFJA4iyZe1SfEdXB6CGMI12qywyZ3Axet7NFtJKVt_06B5ILF lUWN3PVbjb4dFXmQntbUNd8hwGNLlLt53UWpWp33W7Nxan7g4dStpgHLmWXb eO9arcCan1SAT.oPN0XtuzhKxYh.Z3GyIUACUrw-- Received: from [205.215.202.122] by web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:50:39 PDT wqBUaGVyZSBpcyBhIFRSNEEgd2l0aCBhIEZpYmVyRmFiIEphbWFpY2FuIGJvZHkgZm9yIHNhbGUgb24gdGhlIFN0TG91aXMgVHJpdW1waCBPd25lcidzIEFzc29jaWF0aW9uIChTTFRPQSkgd2Vic2l0ZSBuZXdzbGV0dGVyLiBJdCBpcyB0aGUgZmlyc3QgbGlzdGluZyBpbiB0aGVpciBjbGFzc2lmaWVkIHNlY3Rpb24gb2YgdGhlIEp1bHkgMjAxNCBuZXdzbGV0dGVyLiBBIGdlbnRsZW1hbiBjb250YWN0ZWQgbWUgYWJvdXQgaXQgeWVzdGVyZGF5IHNheWluZyBoZSBpbWFnaW5lZCB0aGUgcHJpY2Ugd2FzIG5lZ28BMAEBAQE- Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:50:39 -0700 From: Shawn Frank To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] TR4A with FiberFab Jamaican body Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net There is a TR4A with a FiberFab Jamaican body for sale on the StLouis Triumph Owner's Association (SLTOA) website newsletter. It is the first listing in their classified section of the July 2014 newsletter. A gentleman contacted me about it yesterday saying he imagined the price was negotiable. May make for a nice KCup runner... Here is the link to the newsletter. http://www.sltoa.org/exhaust/2014/07/SLTOA1407.pdf Shawn Frank Spitfire & GT6 Magazine, Editor Continued Legacy, Owner North American Triumphs, Admin Friends of Triumph, NASS#746, VTR#93353, Iowa BCC Drive Away Cancer Iowa, driver 515-339-4228 '71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude" '80 Triumph Spitfire 1500 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 21:07:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A81D2584750 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 21:07:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 066E22584733 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 21:06:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622132C00F3 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 21:06:42 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 21:06:41 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Useless trivia Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I spend way too much time at the computer, not enough time in the garage. Of course, some of that time at the keyboard is what keeps Team.Net on the air. Sadly, though, some of it is spent playing Words With Friends on Facebook, a version of the Scrabble word game. Not very productive use of my time. But if you ever decide to play it yourself, you may be happy to know that it accepts "KAS" as a valid play. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 04:23:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AECE25805EB for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 04:23:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net (vms173017pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25D4725805BB for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 04:22:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from new-host.home ([unknown] [98.117.90.163]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0N9700AA1OUNB050@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 05:23:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Dean Tetterton Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 06:23:11 -0400 References: To: FOT Triumph Subject: [Fot] Fwd: TR6 parts for scrap metal prices Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > UK Motorsports.... www.theukmotorsports.com .....is cleaning out > parts. If not needed will be sold for scrap metal. > > TR6 engines, short blocks and complete engines Misc internal engine parts, flywheels, engine plates Lever shocks, alternators, starters > Lots of early heads > Front suspension pieces, A arms, hubs, steering arms > Dozens of 4 speed gearboxes > Lots of 3.7 differential > Half shafts > Swing arms Jaguar calipers/rotors > > Pick the stuff up in Richmond, VA and save even more. > If you need something, drop us an E-mail > > Chip@theukmotorsports.com Dean T. On the way to Road Atlanta with the TR4 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 18:47:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8196125848B0 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 18:47:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 485E92584882 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 18:46:51 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge02 smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [98.197.168.205] ([98.197.168.205:57883] helo=[192.168.1.45]) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 54/E1-07747-119A1D35; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 00:47:14 +0000 References: <53D07841.30600@bradakis.com> From: Bob Kramer Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:47:12 -0500 To: Mark J Bradakis Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Useless trivia Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Duly noted . Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 23, 2014, at 10:06 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > > I spend way too much time at the computer, not enough time in the garage. Of course, > some of that time at the keyboard is what keeps Team.Net on the air. Sadly, though, > some of it is spent playing Words With Friends on Facebook, a version of the Scrabble > word game. Not very productive use of my time. > > But if you ever decide to play it yourself, you may be happy to know that it accepts "KAS" > as a valid play. > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 27 09:07:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A1C25805CA for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 09:07:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78AB2580093 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 09:07:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.88]) by qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id XSvV1o0021u4NiLAET7e1b; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 15:07:38 +0000 Received: from Bud ([67.164.124.195]) by omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id XT7c1o00N4D3utv8hT7dq7; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 15:07:38 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "'FOT'" Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 08:07:35 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac+prH5pA7xsIj2hTc+qtxRuvB72/w== Content-Language: en-us s=q20140121; t=1406473658; bh=27tSHV1iPDQj7A7ZljH0uW5AFUWCJ8k7RTK1/E4l8Us=; h=Received:Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nFMSi29yPgpALZ0bxT0FbBTGHhjQH94YurSZAZJ4hmUW6CDn2W/izsTHin0rlW/JS ygSmenDQZeqQ2TWijACg70LSmq+3sG7/bCH/a9tkXiH3Qv8fGao9K1zT3X4ZXyVIFT sX3qRKkNiv/Mz9TvhGnbqg35A9y/F4YMv3KV7/E0hlPLeOg0rl94eckj3FHRGHgY72 R8N5ttXGY98AG/XRsNycaLZgZO1ltpigH3g5BMGAAgZyFkf0mBPnLJiG4arITX8OMD oXRrnFLzEY/KwEvcBNGqMNWfPfRgPAi3bHDdM8LU8e4cznf9mWzE2quEwyW+EMVm0B INGLHTBeXReig== Subject: [Fot] test Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net No FOT coming through RB _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 27 10:02:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA382584C42 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 10:02:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com (omr-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C9E25844D4 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 10:01:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mbe02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mbe02.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.174]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 2D193700000BD; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:02:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mbe02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 90283380000AD; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:01:58 -0400 (EDT) References: <000c01cfa9ac$801b5e20$80521a60$@net> From: Joe Alexander Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 11:01:58 -0500 To: "budscars@comcast.net" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1406476921; bh=KXXpwsqk9eN1IQu2SlLF8xMDZsY+iqwFZkbo7HPCNmU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=cYfmev2gZGzoFvihOYE8eO5EIWFJVPsoIZeJg03CHoBZZ03OuwEmpojy2Cv4/9swA Y+xRKKdkSGuOlzxneixA7uT/JsVniEF+Z5maRHqHvw2tp/FRS00UuKYGvdRPq1t0zm G3bmE8XP8evQo+M6EkNKfBcExGg6qOWgC2SGkzV0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afeae53d52276226e Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] test Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Did this? Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Jul 27, 2014, at 10:07 AM, "RACER BUD" wrote: > > No FOT coming through > > RB > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 27 11:35:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF6B2584C74 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 11:35:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B3152584481 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 11:35:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id XUsv1o0081zF43QA7Vbwsz; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 17:35:56 +0000 Received: from Bud ([67.164.124.195]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id XVbv1o00N4D3utv8kVbwSl; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 17:35:56 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "'Joe Alexander'" References: <000c01cfa9ac$801b5e20$80521a60$@net> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 10:35:54 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac+ptBpzIXXjB9suRfSuSxrtPDQ4cQADQROQ Content-Language: en-us s=q20140121; t=1406482556; bh=ChDoGLneoOCUiPVhO57XPuXal8EG7qOQVMQ2+wYCLF8=; h=Received:Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=O7P6/ENHyA0eaHC9nx4LHCFpIZZNfkDdiBflSN6XBjIQ9/AqEs54a0CnYgYSVfS6X zMftWU4rSX45zy6utw2DL2Auh1uEKHCjZYpeehRgph3T8YlfsMeFssNOf8cKIzVQmi imFVf6wnGM+wfeZgk1jqrM2ELLtjyhk1YhoFVxjPmzNhGDDXfBfI6uy2orgaaebZ6L emMROo8oCswolE/1XX0yUnjiYRrt2XjFOVcNVWdlobEkg7dSFdAYp/Li6DhzjCtNGs KbUWlS6TyRKEu4M7A5mEfe4YQwH+jkS+6lQ9luEbFcggzsOIUmwNpJeTbE98aZTISC 7yLabjAI+LYkA== Cc: 'FOT' Subject: Re: [Fot] test Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks gang..all is well..I guess things have been kind of slow -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander [mailto:n197tr4@cs.com] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 9:02 AM To: budscars@comcast.net Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] test Did this? Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Jul 27, 2014, at 10:07 AM, "RACER BUD" wrote: > > No FOT coming through > > RB > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 29 14:50:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9040C2584F7B for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 14:50:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (isis.mit.edu [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648FE2580499 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 14:50:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s6TKpDlY006799 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 16:51:13 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 16:51:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Tyres Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I'm about to pull the trigger on some Speedsters for my TR6. I've been teetering on getting the 225/50-15's for my TR6. I haven't figured out (yet) if this is okay for SVRA Gp 8 or VRG H2. Can anyone running a TR6 chime in, please? I know I'll def. not be running R6's. TIA for the feedback. rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 29 14:58:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725052584FF8 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 14:58:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8A42580499 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 14:56:28 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: dnvrco-oedge01 smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.70.248] ([107.14.70.248:3604] helo=dnvrco-web04) by dnvrco-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 53/FD-32028-69A08D35; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 20:56:54 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 20:56:54 +0000 From: To: fot@autox.team.net, "Robert M. Lang" Sensitivity: Normal Jul 2014 20:56:54 +0000 a=wAyFwspFC75BjEd6OtOw1g==:117 a=wAyFwspFC75BjEd6OtOw1g==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=CWOp4QXbfkK7KBsndwsA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=noQjv9YW-iYA:10 a=KTDso90Uc2QA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 Subject: Re: [Fot] Tyres Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net So you are moving the TR6 over to the racetrack? I'd use the 225-50-15's unless the rules don't allow it. Most vintage clubs allow 1.5" over stock rim width giving the TR6 a 7" rim, nicely fitting the 225's. In CVAR TR6's are in a group that allows 50 series so that is the tire. They are also cheaper than the speedsters and can be bought used from the Berget guy. Bob Kramer rkramer3@austin.rr.com ---- "Robert M. Lang" wrote: > Hi, > > I'm about to pull the trigger on some Speedsters for my TR6. I've been > teetering on getting the 225/50-15's for my TR6. I haven't figured out > (yet) if this is okay for SVRA Gp 8 or VRG H2. > > Can anyone running a TR6 chime in, please? > > I know I'll def. not be running R6's. > > TIA for the feedback. > > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 29 15:15:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39C12580264 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 15:15:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (isis.mit.edu [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4152580264 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 15:15:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s6TLFrFw006854 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 17:15:53 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 17:15:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheel Assembly Torque Spec Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I'm pulling some three-piece Revolution wheels out of storage. The bolts are in need of replacement. I got all the hardware, but somehow I lost the torque specs for the dinky bolts used to hold everything together. It looks like the bolts are 6mm. I found references to 15 lb/ft, but the info I found is for Fiske wheels, so I don't know if the specs carry over. I als recall the shop that got me the bolts saying "inch-pounds" not "foot-pounds". Relavent references are more than welcome. Regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 29 15:37:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2332C2584F82 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 15:37:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4013F2580499 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 15:36:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.224.70.70] (mobile-166-170-020-011.mycingular.net [166.170.20.11]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0N9H00IJWTDI4250@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 21:37:01 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-07-29_05:2014-07-29,2014-07-29,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1407290259 References: From: SCOTT JANZEN Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 17:36:54 -0400 To: "Robert M. Lang" Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Tyres Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Vrg goes by SVRA tire rules, which are explicit as to sizes. Sent from my mobile device > On Jul 29, 2014, at 4:51 PM, "Robert M. Lang" wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm about to pull the trigger on some Speedsters for my TR6. I've been teetering on getting the 225/50-15's for my TR6. I haven't figured out (yet) if this is okay for SVRA Gp 8 or VRG H2. > > Can anyone running a TR6 chime in, please? > > I know I'll def. not be running R6's. > > TIA for the feedback. > > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 29 15:46:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339C82584F60 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 15:46:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8826B2580499 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 15:46:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.224.70.70] (mobile-166-170-020-011.mycingular.net [166.170.20.11]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0N9H00HDITU0BJ80@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 21:46:52 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-07-29_05:2014-07-29,2014-07-29,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1407290262 From: SCOTT JANZEN Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 17:45:40 -0400 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Gt6 crank main diameter? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net My manual clearly has it wrong (2.01"). I'm measuring 2.3". Does anyone have the factory specs for the diameter of the crank mains? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 29 15:54:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B582584F5F for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 15:54:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gateway07.websitewelcome.com (gateway07.websitewelcome.com [67.18.36.29]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7466D2580499 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 15:54:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by gateway07.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 5007) id C8AB3229992C3; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 16:54:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gator3082.hostgator.com (gator3082.hostgator.com [50.87.144.117]) by gateway07.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8D9322998964 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 16:54:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [174.237.8.171] (port=2573 helo=[10.240.112.74]) by gator3082.hostgator.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XCFMC-0003oc-TK; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 16:54:53 -0500 References: From: John Hasty Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 17:54:47 -0400 To: "Robert M. Lang" with any abuse report Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Tyres Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I think they require 205-60-15 on 5 1/2 rims at least that's the rule for TR3's Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 29, 2014, at 4:51 PM, "Robert M. Lang" wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm about to pull the trigger on some Speedsters for my TR6. I've been teetering on getting the 225/50-15's for my TR6. I haven't figured out (yet) if this is okay for SVRA Gp 8 or VRG H2. > > Can anyone running a TR6 chime in, please? > > I know I'll def. not be running R6's. > > TIA for the feedback. > > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 29 16:39:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507802584F82 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 16:39:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dfn.com (mail.dfn.com [74.116.128.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73BC2580682 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 16:38:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.3] [216.223.227.106] by dfn.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-12.3.0.100) id ea9e0000669847d1; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 16:39:18 -0600 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 16:39:15 -0600 From: Michael Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: SCOTT JANZEN , 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph References: <8C540F49-EA0F-471B-AC40-C20FBC4B8399@me.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Gt6 crank main diameter? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 7/29/2014 3:45 PM, SCOTT JANZEN wrote: > My manual clearly has it wrong (2.01"). I'm measuring 2.3". Does anyone have > the factory specs for the diameter of the crank mains? > This is, I think, an error in the factory manual that's been carried over to most other manuals. I'm betting that this was correct for the Mk 1s with the 1600 cc engine, and that figure was just carried through. The correct specs are the same as for the TR6 mains: 2.3110"-2.3115" for std. dia., with acceptable clearance of 0.0010"-0.0027", with the optimum clearance around 0.0018"-0.0020". Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 29 17:04:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F66B2584F75 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 17:04:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCCDF2580569 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 17:04:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.224.70.70] (mobile-166-170-020-011.mycingular.net [166.170.20.11]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0N9H001NRXDLZV20@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 23:04:27 +0000 (GMT) References: <8C540F49-EA0F-471B-AC40-C20FBC4B8399@me.com> <53D82293.3030605@dfn.com> From: SCOTT JANZEN Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 19:04:18 -0400 To: Michael Porter engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-07-29_05:2014-07-29,2014-07-29,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1407290278 Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Gt6 crank main diameter? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks! Sent from my mobile device > On Jul 29, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Michael Porter wrote: > >> On 7/29/2014 3:45 PM, SCOTT JANZEN wrote: >> My manual clearly has it wrong (2.01"). I'm measuring 2.3". Does anyone have >> the factory specs for the diameter of the crank mains? > > This is, I think, an error in the factory manual that's been carried over to most other manuals. I'm betting that this was correct for the Mk 1s with the 1600 cc engine, and that figure was just carried through. > > The correct specs are the same as for the TR6 mains: 2.3110"-2.3115" for std. dia., with acceptable clearance of 0.0010"-0.0027", with the optimum clearance around 0.0018"-0.0020". > > > Cheers. > > -- > > > Michael Porter > Roswell, NM > > > Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 29 17:22:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4E925806DC for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 17:22:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8A22580569 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 17:22:17 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge01 smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [107.107.186.128] ([107.107.186.128:26963] helo=[10.4.17.223]) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 4C/CB-18701-3CC28D35; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 23:22:44 +0000 From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:22:39 -0500 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Early TR6 crank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I am helping fellow FOT Dave Foreman put together a refreshed TR6 motor for the Sherlock Homboyz/FOGHAT/Sweaty Boyz crap can TR6. The machine shop called today and the crank needs to be turned again now down to 20 under. I am a little hesitant to put a 20 under crank into an engine that will be seeing lots endurance race service. This is not an all out race motor but it will be used up to 6000 rpm. So the request. If you have a TR6 crank coffee table or desk lamp or otherwise underutilized early TR6 crank in a std/std size please drop me a note or call me. I'll even ship you the 10 under crank so you can still have that conversation piece on the reading table. Thanks, _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 29 17:46:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 717A22580569 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 17:46:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E6B2580569 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 17:46:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [72.177.104.32] ([72.177.104.32:60852] helo=[192.168.1.106]) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id BD/30-28694-D6238D35; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 23:46:54 +0000 References: From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:46:54 -0500 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Early TR6 crank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Another TR6 question. What is the compressed thickness of a standard head gasket? Thanks Greg > On Jul 29, 2014, at 6:22 PM, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: > > I am helping fellow FOT Dave Foreman put together a refreshed TR6 motor for > the Sherlock Homboyz/FOGHAT/Sweaty Boyz crap can TR6. > > The machine shop called today and the crank needs to be turned again now down > to 20 under. I am a little hesitant to put a 20 under crank into an engine > that will be seeing lots endurance race service. This is not an all out race > motor but it will be used up to 6000 rpm. > > So the request. If you have a TR6 crank coffee table or desk lamp or > otherwise underutilized early TR6 crank in a std/std size please drop me a > note or call me. I'll even ship you the 10 under crank so you can still have > that conversation piece on the reading table. > > Thanks, > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 29 17:47:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB5825806DB for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 17:47:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96DEF25806EE for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 17:46:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [75.86.187.21] ([75.86.187.21:65177] helo=Steve) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 56/8E-23320-97238D35; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 23:47:05 +0000 From: "Steve Yott" To: "'Greg And Alison Blake'" , "'Friends of Triumph'" References: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:47:04 -0500 Thread-Index: AQHphoF1UpBPvthl/s9au7h7+J1tHJuEATVg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Early TR6 crank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Greg, In reality .020" under is not a lot with all things considered. There are numerous race quality engines running out there which are even less. I would not hesitate to use a .020" under crank for your needs and if you are a little nervous have it nitride for a little extra. Steve Yott -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg And Alison Blake Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 6:23 PM To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Early TR6 crank I am helping fellow FOT Dave Foreman put together a refreshed TR6 motor for the Sherlock Homboyz/FOGHAT/Sweaty Boyz crap can TR6. The machine shop called today and the crank needs to be turned again now down to 20 under. I am a little hesitant to put a 20 under crank into an engine that will be seeing lots endurance race service. This is not an all out race motor but it will be used up to 6000 rpm. So the request. If you have a TR6 crank coffee table or desk lamp or otherwise underutilized early TR6 crank in a std/std size please drop me a note or call me. I'll even ship you the 10 under crank so you can still have that conversation piece on the reading table. Thanks, _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 29 20:22:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F58725806DC for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 20:22:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qg0-f48.google.com (mail-qg0-f48.google.com [209.85.192.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 823EC2580694 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 20:21:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qg0-f48.google.com with SMTP id i50so705974qgf.7 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 19:22:03 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=BZ8CRc19UaFqIch2WgFq0dwLbZUTPMYf5zOmqPnUoPk=; b=YZevsYJmfVf2LhQdZqJLBYUOSWXVxMnUSRzIQmJoI1y5xgJT3lg2HN+baGjBQJfYAB HzmyDwORDBW9wIPCGvGs/4KbGu9TSr9jlpcvEODEcQR/c1GdWQdg7ixT6A9Ov+NKL7qH xlHtsV24XJVP4CIjOSfDlD1aM4+PoZMSFF2uQkfdz3MW1kta7cUHTk0OrDmQoSPj8N+H vWJJKRhhCTkaNmy+tzy9pbc03D0kWwWqXD1W6Nh5G1MFJeumejjyGgP9EsPT6HebHgcG PZbJ4gAMxSP17oibccKQVWKbimK4bf1yAZaytTUJGL8bEkJglKIsHbFkTxf17uv4gVjg G4bA== l36mr1307742qgl.61.1406686923442; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 19:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.88.135 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 19:21:23 -0700 (PDT) References: <000201cfab87$666910d0$333b3270$@wi.rr.com> From: Kas Kastner Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 19:21:23 -0700 To: Steve Yott , FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Early TR6 crank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Grind the crank and have it nitrided for SURE. That alone will do more for that crank than any other one thing. *Never be beaten by equipment.* On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Steve Yott wrote: > Greg, > In reality .020" under is not a lot with all things considered. There are > numerous race quality engines running out there which are even less. I > would not hesitate to use a .020" under crank for your needs and if you are > a little nervous have it nitride for a little extra. > > Steve Yott > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg And Alison > Blake > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 6:23 PM > To: Friends of Triumph > Subject: [Fot] Early TR6 crank > > I am helping fellow FOT Dave Foreman put together a refreshed TR6 motor for > the Sherlock Homboyz/FOGHAT/Sweaty Boyz crap can TR6. > > The machine shop called today and the crank needs to be turned again now > down to 20 under. I am a little hesitant to put a 20 under crank into an > engine that will be seeing lots endurance race service. This is not an all > out race motor but it will be used up to 6000 rpm. > > So the request. If you have a TR6 crank coffee table or desk lamp or > otherwise underutilized early TR6 crank in a std/std size please drop me a > note or call me. I'll even ship you the 10 under crank so you can still > have > that conversation piece on the reading table. > > Thanks, > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 29 20:47:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47850258069E for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 20:47:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F88F2580697 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 20:47:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [68.203.13.233] ([68.203.13.233:52589] helo=[192.168.2.7]) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 05/01-28694-1CC58D35; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 02:47:30 +0000 References: From: Bob Kramer Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 21:47:29 -0500 To: John Hasty Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Tyres Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net TR3's came with 4" rims , thus the 5.5" rule. TR4's came with 4.5" rims, thus the 6" rule. TR6 came with 5.5" rims and rules allow 7" rims. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 29, 2014, at 4:54 PM, John Hasty wrote: > > I think they require 205-60-15 on 5 1/2 rims at least that's the rule for > TR3's > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 29, 2014, at 4:51 PM, "Robert M. Lang" wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I'm about to pull the trigger on some Speedsters for my TR6. I've been > teetering on getting the 225/50-15's for my TR6. I haven't figured out (yet) > if this is okay for SVRA Gp 8 or VRG H2. >> >> Can anyone running a TR6 chime in, please? >> >> I know I'll def. not be running R6's. >> >> TIA for the feedback. >> >> rml >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent >> Former NER Solo Chair | >> Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 30 07:27:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03262584979 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 07:27:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f171.google.com (mail-ie0-f171.google.com [209.85.223.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 757472580811 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 07:27:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f171.google.com with SMTP id at1so1537296iec.30 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 06:27:39 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Y1slXYNjFrz/Vwrdt84XSojq2+9JV4L8KGAawSIhzq0=; b=JjK31w83w+fLPbm1yDzuIaXwBjeykBF1NPlfECDGyNClIrzd17jeM3P4dPDdQcgwhY noXPRtgkuFxWm6SW2PCMcoLYUaaHbUjim9kfZtRJYNdwazqXVK5QKqhn9Wwc0gZgrcqp Et6JJ5Ezrjj9Ou1weo0m5Cp2vmIJNoy1xja5vDyUqTIenlI5QM6liA8u1ZB8WzelYT+s I2JTorbDYQyUfRY9MG8nUnvHglhFOLf0P0rH5Woqv2KVr4F4x0lFyFr6acs0nCYxfqJq cG1/Zdz9rbrSAbdPCoHvQEb1K6PS7Kl65MVMA8V4MMtZocuL2ruzh8Osck607alTNSB3 OMmg== gb2mr54629087igd.16.1406726859739; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 06:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.159.9 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 06:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:27:39 -0400 From: John Styduhar To: "Triumph 'Friends of Triumph" Subject: [Fot] TR4 crankshaft steel type Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net What type of steel is the TR4 crankshaft made from? I need to provide this information to the nitriding facility. Thanks _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 30 07:37:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2492584990 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 07:37:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240E12580B38 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 07:35:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [75.86.187.21] ([75.86.187.21:54090] helo=Steve) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id AF/0C-28694-9A4F8D35; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 13:35:37 +0000 From: "Steve Yott" To: "'John Styduhar'" , "'Triumph 'Friends of Triumph'" References: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 08:35:36 -0500 Thread-Index: AQE0+YfuQrttS21oVjF3dF4cxDiuf5zuAoUw Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 crankshaft steel type Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Great question and I bet we get a bunch of funny replies!!! As far as I know it is a steel forging but the type would be unknown to me. I have had a number of cranks nitride over the years and not one facility has asked this question... Steve Yott PS. I believe the web at the rear main is made of tin.......!! -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Styduhar Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 8:28 AM To: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] TR4 crankshaft steel type What type of steel is the TR4 crankshaft made from? I need to provide this information to the nitriding facility. Thanks _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 30 07:52:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB2325848CF for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 07:52:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f47.google.com (mail-oi0-f47.google.com [209.85.218.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B3C2580437 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 07:50:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f47.google.com with SMTP id x69so838777oia.20 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 06:51:00 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pg+K/ZBceGYMVzjeq9HsuKUtwKw+rHmPUtVpP1nkcC8=; b=KpBk5WDx/N3N+nINPJEHc+kqpCJWGX+B8y3M0bQlmxbuWBiyfz0venIn1FLATVlOXt TxdWa4vn6FwEKUSOKN68/uWSOOuPamzUTdDJqLaxHlCtpjTL2STo7SBM6JhvjN1XH1Xt Dq3lcYwlaBc+EuV9ilRqt5KxHWl9bpVsgv+CQ3LQxPF5+p7YmDD1EozUCe3Yy6W98HLZ YKMNzzvI7Rip4RgCD9g+2nrz+ZjbYOPnLr9JIbCSSloZbgvvwC2ALbEfYfoBCNeK9QTO 6MUEeS+ubrAABjaT1gKxjBVDA/oO0NLwDwpKytypmP3nSS6tO5GDBpsfo+G3iMz0nz4G ZtpQ== q10mr6371681oem.25.1406728259090; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 06:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Duncans-MacBook-Pro.local (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id oj7sm4966128obc.19.2014.07.30.06.50.58 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 30 Jul 2014 06:50:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 08:50:57 -0500 From: Duncan Charlton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: fot@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 crankshaft steel type Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Greg Solow's reply from November 2010: >The TR-2 through TR-4 crank is made of a Manganese Steel alloy. The English alloy code is forged right on the crank. It is EN-16. The alloy can be looked up in the "Machinists Handbook"...The EN-16 alloy has enough good ingredients so that it benefits dramatically from being Nitride treated in an ammonia atmosphere.< Duncan (Texas) On 7/30/14, 8:27 AM, John Styduhar wrote: > What type of steel is the TR4 crankshaft made from? I need to provide this > information to the nitriding facility. Thanks > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 30 08:08:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C264125848AE for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 08:07:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gateway06.websitewelcome.com (gateway06.websitewelcome.com [69.56.148.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D1A2580437 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 08:05:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by gateway06.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 5007) id 0DAA4244AA437; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:05:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gator3082.hostgator.com (gator3082.hostgator.com [50.87.144.117]) by gateway06.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B06244AA116 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:05:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [64.128.77.10] (port=38188 helo=dtjhh) by gator3082.hostgator.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XCUVt-0005rN-CS; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:05:53 -0500 From: "John Hasty" To: "'SCOTT JANZEN'" , "'Robert M. Lang'" References: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 10:05:48 -0400 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQIShDXbCxHEkryy1jaDczFsFEEKxQGuQ6domyWEEIA= with any abuse report Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Tyres Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Speedsters are the only SVRA approved tire that will fit your TR6 -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of SCOTT JANZEN Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 5:37 PM To: Robert M. Lang Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Tyres Vrg goes by SVRA tire rules, which are explicit as to sizes. Sent from my mobile device > On Jul 29, 2014, at 4:51 PM, "Robert M. Lang" wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm about to pull the trigger on some Speedsters for my TR6. I've been teetering on getting the 225/50-15's for my TR6. I haven't figured out (yet) if this is okay for SVRA Gp 8 or VRG H2. > > Can anyone running a TR6 chime in, please? > > I know I'll def. not be running R6's. > > TIA for the feedback. > > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 30 08:26:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D10792580811 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 08:26:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f180.google.com (mail-ie0-f180.google.com [209.85.223.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81717258043F for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 08:26:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f180.google.com with SMTP id at20so1572225iec.25 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 07:26:51 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=AzNEFCwCdBqP8nqgFwGrkOzx+ycaas0Bvuh9eEGMYs0=; b=InyKR+68yH50At7RyXj70kYFxuCpRSp+B8MesnAg2RAn0zYZ4IydLpx0s0sMd/n0al 3kqgDj7FdfovV3HESkYC8xmdNX7DIDVFnFQ5hKZbQD/Rf2YKtBNkOvWAOpSZIEaTHphT +xDnT1HVJ0jVySeGiB4wPQmzKIMSd2jWB5/gI4XjbGEpOQEat8+mNKTgRaG0Ns2DD8VX 4YqNB1DNM9dKo0PG6MiGtsZ4gj5XAXOkpXGVho0e6pfm6zs0b7qr9i72F4H9xHeCUHhK NdjFKh8d/jC7EabPonjJQFGH1aKDnaVV4s6wsWJELpPts+UBjyP3oATgoIvxqHDpsbhh 4E2Q== x4mr5859218icf.85.1406730410818; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 07:26:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.159.9 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 07:26:50 -0700 (PDT) References: <53D8F841.7020202@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 10:26:50 -0400 From: John Styduhar To: Duncan Charlton Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 crankshaft steel type Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Duncan and Greg. Unfortunately, the English alloy code EN-16 was not helpful in describing the type of steel in the TR4 crankshaft to the metallurgy folks at P&L Heat Treating and Grinding in Youngstown, OH. They explained that the type of steel determines the duration and depth of the hardening process. Lacking this information, they cannot determine the depth of hardness without destructive testing. On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Duncan Charlton < duncan.charlton54@gmail.com> wrote: > Greg Solow's reply from November 2010: > > >The TR-2 through TR-4 crank is made of a Manganese Steel alloy. The > English alloy code is forged right on the crank. It is EN-16. The alloy can > be looked up in the "Machinists Handbook"...The EN-16 alloy has enough good > ingredients so that it benefits dramatically from being Nitride treated in > an ammonia atmosphere.< > > Duncan > (Texas) > > > On 7/30/14, 8:27 AM, John Styduhar wrote: > >> What type of steel is the TR4 crankshaft made from? I need to provide this >> information to the nitriding facility. Thanks >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ >> options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ > options/fot/johnstydo@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 30 08:31:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06940258043F for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 08:31:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gateway07.websitewelcome.com (gateway07.websitewelcome.com [67.18.65.22]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7373E258043F for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 08:31:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by gateway07.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 5007) id D923724AE6EF6; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:31:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gator3082.hostgator.com (gator3082.hostgator.com [50.87.144.117]) by gateway07.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE3124AE6EA0 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:31:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [64.128.77.10] (port=7055 helo=dtjhh) by gator3082.hostgator.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XCUus-0005Ku-TQ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:31:43 -0500 From: "John Hasty" To: "'Steve Yott'" , "'John Styduhar'" , "'Triumph 'Friends of Triumph'" References: <000201cfabfb$25164070$6f42c150$@wi.rr.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 10:31:38 -0400 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQE0+YfuQrttS21oVjF3dF4cxDiufwLnaWognNbXYKA= with any abuse report Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 crankshaft steel type Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The front is undoubtedly made from Mex. pottery -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Yott Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 9:36 AM To: 'John Styduhar'; 'Triumph 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 crankshaft steel type Great question and I bet we get a bunch of funny replies!!! As far as I know it is a steel forging but the type would be unknown to me. I have had a number of cranks nitride over the years and not one facility has asked this question... Steve Yott PS. I believe the web at the rear main is made of tin.......!! -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Styduhar Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 8:28 AM To: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] TR4 crankshaft steel type What type of steel is the TR4 crankshaft made from? I need to provide this information to the nitriding facility. Thanks _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 30 09:09:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7C02584983 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:09:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3AAE25805BE for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:09:15 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge01 smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [107.107.186.176] ([107.107.186.176:4527] helo=[10.4.17.223]) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id F8/5B-18701-4BA09D35; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:09:42 +0000 References: <53D8F841.7020202@gmail.com> From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 10:09:38 -0500 To: John Styduhar Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 crankshaft steel type Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net John, I can send you three partially destructed examples for destructive testing. Might be the reason there is not an EN16 crank in my race engine. Let me know, Greg > On Jul 30, 2014, at 9:26 AM, John Styduhar wrote: > > Thanks Duncan and Greg. Unfortunately, the English alloy code EN-16 was not > helpful in describing the type of steel in the TR4 crankshaft to the > metallurgy folks at P&L Heat Treating and Grinding in Youngstown, OH. They > explained that the type of steel determines the duration and depth of the > hardening process. Lacking this information, they cannot determine the > depth of hardness without destructive testing. > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Duncan Charlton < > duncan.charlton54@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Greg Solow's reply from November 2010: >> >>> The TR-2 through TR-4 crank is made of a Manganese Steel alloy. The >> English alloy code is forged right on the crank. It is EN-16. The alloy can >> be looked up in the "Machinists Handbook"...The EN-16 alloy has enough good >> ingredients so that it benefits dramatically from being Nitride treated in >> an ammonia atmosphere.< >> >> Duncan >> (Texas) >> >> >>> On 7/30/14, 8:27 AM, John Styduhar wrote: >>> >>> What type of steel is the TR4 crankshaft made from? I need to provide this >>> information to the nitriding facility. Thanks >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ >>> options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ >> options/fot/johnstydo@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 30 09:33:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57DD52584964 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:33:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC2S33.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s33.hotmail.com [65.55.111.108]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C86B2580796 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:33:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W109 ([65.55.111.71]) by BLU004-OMC2S33.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Wed, 30 Jul 2014 08:34:01 -0700 From: marty To: FOT Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 11:34:00 -0400 References: , <53D8F841.7020202@gmail.com>, , <108782BA-2ABF-4155-AAC3-38AAFBEC1B59@austin.rr.com> FILETIME=[B016DDA0:01CFAC0B] Subject: [Fot] crankshaft steel Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net OK, along these lines. I need a Section of a broken spitfire crank for a "special" :) project. Does not matter what engine. If you have one in your junk pile and are going to VTR in September or the 2015 Kastner Cup toss it in your trailer. Marty > From: ablake2@austin.rr.com > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 10:09:38 -0500 > To: johnstydo@gmail.com > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 crankshaft steel type > > John, > > I can send you three partially destructed examples for destructive testing. > > Might be the reason there is not an EN16 crank in my race engine. > > Let me know, > > Greg > > > On Jul 30, 2014, at 9:26 AM, John Styduhar wrote: > > > > Thanks Duncan and Greg. Unfortunately, the English alloy code EN-16 was not > > helpful in describing the type of steel in the TR4 crankshaft to the > > metallurgy folks at P&L Heat Treating and Grinding in Youngstown, OH. They > > explained that the type of steel determines the duration and depth of the > > hardening process. Lacking this information, they cannot determine the > > depth of hardness without destructive testing. > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Duncan Charlton < > > duncan.charlton54@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Greg Solow's reply from November 2010: > >> > >>> The TR-2 through TR-4 crank is made of a Manganese Steel alloy. The > >> English alloy code is forged right on the crank. It is EN-16. The alloy > can > >> be looked up in the "Machinists Handbook"...The EN-16 alloy has enough > good > >> ingredients so that it benefits dramatically from being Nitride treated in > >> an ammonia atmosphere.< > >> > >> Duncan > >> (Texas) > >> > >> > >>> On 7/30/14, 8:27 AM, John Styduhar wrote: > >>> > >>> What type of steel is the TR4 crankshaft made from? I need to provide > this > >>> information to the nitriding facility. Thanks > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> fot@autox.team.net > >>> > >>> http://www.fot-racing.com > >>> > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ > >>> options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ > >> options/fot/johnstydo@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 30 09:38:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245A02584A39 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:38:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm10-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm10-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8BF125807BF for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:38:10 -0600 (MDT) s=s2048; t=1406734717; bh=yIonH7RrlglpiMLeZUbrgzK9zOieRPbwbmPSuQ4Hl1I=; b=IgG5m4LtDYimHD+U7ac8wOG3p/hq+HiLaB80XnnIXtsqaI5RN5xCPLkq3isesq5pt03kRKqOXmmBe+6BJHpg5qRP4Rm67uNTCG3Zq/Smw/+a/9Rf6Va807U4wHv+qjM9rSAfr74H+a65/RzqvY+5XR9EVv56uk0pWVPkPBdSJ9mVTr4LGpD/wik4mJN8XqDMeps7Fg6dreJ5IFmPySNQiolkNhAwiCXfissx+imF76kmf1/2bdThjCKdbRb4RNNA1SkaSp9k7bCGid/C2erNi8Eoj3ffS/HIKIkJqv/BehIcjZVt6luJkMOwONG6l582nXGbuvOwbMgVAGtXXuliNQ== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=NzRMvR/JuCh9AZGW1CrL9acvLDc0LBOESHc01mntfTpgSVGhVHG0n8cFh9EpBlV4HwMWhLozP3+4lKjVlSZDSUayFmY9Hzw4mfEsS1V+pcf7qK+iPAC+cl2aCNY8hPf2g3eD0bOqQa7DKipbQXlDAi/Ea7GR+57HU9310yf/5mA6voknWtU+kL1FnSOav65rk5Q+nKloW15vGW26YSiHBFDfziUeVGUfLFfVqyjPc4BlJ1+s+y+Mh0hyeX2ex0Ck10ZsIe7DMjDoH/+YKpQtNAYfkfl0eFUegl8/EdB8hd3WD9GLOK6KfHKLh4Tyk+sAM4iWEVvwMxQuY/kGR7oXDg==; Received: from [98.138.100.113] by nm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jul 2014 15:38:37 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.128] by tm104.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jul 2014 15:38:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp215.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jul 2014 15:38:37 -0000 s=s1024; t=1406734717; bh=yIonH7RrlglpiMLeZUbrgzK9zOieRPbwbmPSuQ4Hl1I=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=vQzo1tYyJCJJGWnM/P0Jnnux8JA0nl+4Ohs2n6J32qsbgyK8aVICSwnQWGX1fYOmZae/CKuPbRr8DBWXMcUAf4VyZ1OMesxlwJv4FKyPrsh6YkosWFqTh8C2mIiTAq/YayVkRtAaznlwP2jUvHlNGY+SuuWfdvk54DGX2zdjuzc= ww5hcDHaNsOvU0gUJ_R72Z6nPtMAUKmUlEeC7ZjZgvRodR8uC4pBk9fnhdgM 6VTvFQe_TqdbQ0us5BncoOzuKn0_3c9p8B4AE.49Y2VjS4PkXUC_8pEB39aS dO2WlXt1C5I3GOXFtf6DisshPnOvqlR2M899NCBHXxT2k1.XG5TxJpBNahWN IwTbFBwpieYAEn4z3I6y_mpnvS.7S2Fw9v3cyR5xokJInMS6aQnVb6L6AVZF 4yBpYkaL1bqb1mXXv548KA.E9.4.gfyQHCv7ktZpb5pI5WLSYolGC8wPrZ_n JL6s9mE2V5k.9XVk.eCMn4oQyakHbPMSqws58G9f9pWPxWYqjZed3jTixwxl pQr8MxMtk8EUSZYBzgssvrL89fFap8rrAby7jalKNSjRnSqP6woasYOUba74 umwCuj8tmGwUx8Ow3kqyCf5aRKvgJopMRChx1yxmBZsjTw1IyrjfVRd9b4ym wkiUGy3MIOAJx8F3Fd8OZok_HUXnt9VrLj8G6R8.c9c4dzeS9anGMma.kuPO pp_tnZXzhi2TP6sIztoLvoOD57nl6GH5Djw8xRQ-- References: <53D8F841.7020202@gmail.com> <108782BA-2ABF-4155-AAC3-38AAFBEC1B59@austin.rr.com> From: Jamie Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 11:38:35 -0400 To: marty Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] crankshaft steel Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Marty I was literally getting ready to take a Spitfire crank metal recycling. Obviously I'll be at VTR. Consider it taken. Jamie Palmer > On Jul 30, 2014, at 11:34 AM, marty wrote: > > OK, along these lines. I need a Section of a broken spitfire crank for a > "special" :) project. Does not matter what engine. If you have one in your > junk pile and are going to VTR in September or the 2015 Kastner Cup toss it in > your trailer. > > > > Marty > > >> From: ablake2@austin.rr.com >> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 10:09:38 -0500 >> To: johnstydo@gmail.com >> CC: fot@autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 crankshaft steel type >> >> John, >> >> I can send you three partially destructed examples for destructive testing. >> >> Might be the reason there is not an EN16 crank in my race engine. >> >> Let me know, >> >> Greg >> >>> On Jul 30, 2014, at 9:26 AM, John Styduhar wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Duncan and Greg. Unfortunately, the English alloy code EN-16 was > not >>> helpful in describing the type of steel in the TR4 crankshaft to the >>> metallurgy folks at P&L Heat Treating and Grinding in Youngstown, OH. > They >>> explained that the type of steel determines the duration and depth of the >>> hardening process. Lacking this information, they cannot determine the >>> depth of hardness without destructive testing. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Duncan Charlton < >>> duncan.charlton54@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Greg Solow's reply from November 2010: >>>> >>>>> The TR-2 through TR-4 crank is made of a Manganese Steel alloy. The >>>> English alloy code is forged right on the crank. It is EN-16. The alloy >> can >>>> be looked up in the "Machinists Handbook"...The EN-16 alloy has enough >> good >>>> ingredients so that it benefits dramatically from being Nitride treated > in >>>> an ammonia atmosphere.< >>>> >>>> Duncan >>>> (Texas) >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 7/30/14, 8:27 AM, John Styduhar wrote: >>>>> >>>>> What type of steel is the TR4 crankshaft made from? I need to provide >> this >>>>> information to the nitriding facility. Thanks >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>>> >>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>> >>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ >>>>> options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ >>>> options/fot/johnstydo@gmail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr6driver@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 30 10:57:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B182C2584A68 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 10:57:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5169E2580259 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 10:56:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aac02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aac02.mx.aol.com [172.27.2.36]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id CE46F702D26B0 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 12:57:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mic004a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mic004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.104.4]) by mtaomg-aac02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 9DE4F38000081 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 12:57:17 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net From: Joseph Lesnowski Received: from 71.176.0.15 by webmail-d220.sysops.aol.com (149.174.188.104) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 30 Jul 2014 12:57:17 -0400 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1406739437; bh=RvLgG+G7rjsp9C+9dwWthrzE/KDxF1mt+IwOR1dQCZE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0IphCdnxwiQn9V42XSmkLI9frN5190aaojaBjMhf2GrEcXNLq5z0KiRLadwvAae2/ sEEEJkD4An1JwyNS69uuAjC/N9f8QT1u3QZA07DhWumHhdVYn5qOv+AaouZkabn891 WIXGH3n4Dy3DsbK+S/ssdiRxsDZ8JnnMUlMg+VD8= Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 12:57:17 -0400 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b022453d923ed101f Subject: [Fot] Russ Moore Email Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Group, Recently tried to send Russ an email and had it returned. Anyone have a current address for Russ? Joe L. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 30 11:24:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5452584AD1 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 11:24:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1947A2584986 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 11:23:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.88]) by qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Ye9u1o0061u4NiLA7hPazr; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 17:23:34 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-208v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.176.218]) by omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YhMZ1o00D4j68Km8hhMZ4n; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 17:21:33 +0000 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 17:21:32 +0000 (UTC) From: toodamnfunky@comcast.net To: jhhasty@gdhs.com References: <002901cfabff$5e0834c0$1a189e40$@gdhs.com> (Win)/8.0.3_GA_5664) Thread-Topic: Tyres Thread-Index: AQIShDXbCxHEkryy1jaDczFsFEEKxQGuQ6domyWEEICDyvpkXw== s=q20140121; t=1406741014; bh=/ch94Yxi+LmOtvrM6xFHKvJmSlIm3eFehtrN46E7+7s=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=IvbpBIbHi+wd5TnTMcm/6kPPKRDTqJDYk37IzNqArSkif57+toZK9++90wDL7YjtF 2cG4d/d0iJGQH/GeY6nffKyco68zfhGJYsj2594Wu451MQLEwfSeEZxWQXU2fmpf1M vf+de4QYhhF93vp08Fg7ILbUe+JF8OvT+NWrdBde0imTsgdCx2h7irUevITG6TDBvb 9vqauWwAfWoAqW5k13DvPTt5edHMA4OAp9/eDTzUDtYYqFEo1u1lXbIoYZUbyHrupv KOXVBxyx16y/u7OuBCYiTkGjkv2txNuXJjvWUd2cBqRa+CIf5eZXUIxaw/m7xYkshl ssUvXanW1EvrA== Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Tyres Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The Toyo RA-1 is approved with SVRA and they are great tires, really sticky as treaded tires go. jim g ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hasty" To: "SCOTT JANZEN" , "Robert M. Lang" Cc: "fot" Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 8:05:48 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Tyres Speedsters are the only SVRA approved tire that will fit your TR6 -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of SCOTT JANZEN Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 5:37 PM To: Robert M. Lang Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Tyres Vrg goes by SVRA tire rules, which are explicit as to sizes. Sent from my mobile device > On Jul 29, 2014, at 4:51 PM, "Robert M. Lang" wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm about to pull the trigger on some Speedsters for my TR6. I've been teetering on getting the 225/50-15's for my TR6. I haven't figured out (yet) if this is okay for SVRA Gp 8 or VRG H2. > > Can anyone running a TR6 chime in, please? > > I know I'll def. not be running R6's. > > TIA for the feedback. > > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang B B B B B B B Triumph TR6!! B B B B B B | B This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair B B B B B B B B B B B B B | > Voice:617-253-7438 B B B B B B B B B B B B B B | B Cell: 339-927-4489 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 30 11:27:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43AFC2584AEF for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 11:27:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy2-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy2-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.18.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 63CDA2584986 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 11:27:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 31515 invoked by uid 0); 30 Jul 2014 17:27:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO CMOut01) (10.0.90.82) by gproxy2.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 30 Jul 2014 17:27:47 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by CMOut01 with id YhTj1o00R1NzpT901hTmwx; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 11:27:47 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=WSmo2v0ZofkA:10 a=yKqyAkVeGwwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=h-sCm8tLGLGBkWk35v8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=psXREZS0v_AA:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=65138 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XCXfD-0007ea-7z; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 11:27:43 -0600 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 12:27:35 -0500 To: Joseph Lesnowski ,fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews References: <8D17A2E742ED791-1FC8-DCCA@webmail-d220.sysops.aol.com> {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] Russ Moore Email Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Russ Moore: "Spitfire Racing" Tony At 11:57 AM 7/30/2014, Joseph Lesnowski wrote: >Hi Group, > Recently tried to send Russ an email and had it returned. >Anyone have a current address for Russ? > >Joe L. >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 30 14:57:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5A62584AEF for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 14:57:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC48D2580723 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 14:54:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [67.255.13.17] ([67.255.13.17:64507] helo=Shop) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id F0/09-23320-CAB59D35; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 20:55:09 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: "'Tony Drews'" , "'Joseph Lesnowski'" , References: <8D17A2E742ED791-1FC8-DCCA@webmail-d220.sysops.aol.com> <20140730172747.B5ADD2584A8B@autox.team.net> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 16:55:26 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac+sG6UJ4duz9k5BROabOpyAEnXnBQAHNRCQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Russ Moore Email Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net There's an underscore between Spitfire and Racing which doesn't show well in a hyperlink. Russ -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tony Drews Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 1:28 PM To: Joseph Lesnowski; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Russ Moore Email Russ Moore: "Spitfire Racing" Tony At 11:57 AM 7/30/2014, Joseph Lesnowski wrote: >Hi Group, > Recently tried to send Russ an email and had it returned. >Anyone have a current address for Russ? > >Joe L. >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 30 21:34:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F22E2584F6F for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 21:34:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from spamkiller.fastbytes.com (spamkiller.fastbytes.com [192.200.141.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F360E258056F for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 21:34:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mercury.fastbytes.com [192.200.141.198] by spamkiller.fastbytes.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.00) id A9516D10078; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:34:41 -0500 Received: from TimDellVostro [192.200.136.236] by mercury.fastbytes.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-8.22) id A9710C2C; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:35:13 -0500 From: "Tim Murphy" To: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:34:08 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac+sbrQzgXpOTt9iSDG5WW1RI3EeSw== Content-Language: en-us Organization: FastBytesWireless Inc. Subject: [Fot] TR3 vs TR4 crank, differences? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm thinking of prepping a crankshaft for our TR4 vintage racer. I have at least one TR3 crankshaft, a TR4 crankshaft and one or two other unknown spares. Are there any differences or are they the same and can be used in a TR4? I first plan to have it crack checked and checked for straightness and size. The next step would be balancing and lightening possibly? Is there any significant advantage to polishing the crank, other than that it looks real pretty? Then I was going to have it bead blasted and nitrided and finally ground with the proper radiuses and fillets. I have to review Kas's books to check for other tips. I've got CRS disease (Can't Remember Stuff) and it's been awhile since I read some of those books! Thanks for the info and any other tips on crank prep. Once I've got the "new" crank I'll install it on the following rebuild with the thought that with the forged pistons, Carrillo rods and the "new" crank, we should be able to use 6500 RPM reliably. Tim & Ryan 1961 BRG TR4 #317 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 30 21:49:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4D12584ADD for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 21:49:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gateway07.websitewelcome.com (gateway07.websitewelcome.com [70.85.67.23]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7D72580565 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 21:49:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: by gateway07.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 5007) id 9159626690B70; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:50:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gator3082.hostgator.com (gator3082.hostgator.com [50.87.144.117]) by gateway07.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77FC226690B4B for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:50:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [174.237.0.140] (port=8411 helo=[10.249.143.75]) by gator3082.hostgator.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XChNc-0003vI-M7; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:50:13 -0500 References: <000001cfac70$4a7e0080$df7a0180$@com> From: John Hasty Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 23:50:06 -0400 To: Tim Murphy with any abuse report Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 vs TR4 crank, differences? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Dream on..... Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 30, 2014, at 11:34 PM, "Tim Murphy" wrote: > > I'm thinking of prepping a crankshaft for our TR4 vintage racer. I have at > least one TR3 crankshaft, a TR4 crankshaft and one or two other unknown > spares. Are there any differences or are they the same and can be used in > a TR4? > > > > I first plan to have it crack checked and checked for straightness and size. > The next step would be balancing and lightening possibly? Is there any > significant advantage to polishing the crank, other than that it looks real > pretty? Then I was going to have it bead blasted and nitrided and finally > ground with the proper radiuses and fillets. I have to review Kas's books > to check for other tips. I've got CRS disease (Can't Remember Stuff) and > it's been awhile since I read some of those books! > > > > Thanks for the info and any other tips on crank prep. Once I've got the > "new" crank I'll install it on the following rebuild with the thought that > with the forged pistons, Carrillo rods and the "new" crank, we should be > able to use 6500 RPM reliably. > > > > Tim & Ryan 1961 BRG TR4 #317 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 31 05:26:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20182584F9A for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 05:26:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from xavier.telenet-ops.be (xavier.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457C225804C0 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 05:25:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([141.134.4.155]) by xavier.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id YzS91o00W3LgakV01zSKQl; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 13:26:19 +0200 From: "Marcel Van Mulders" To: "'John Hasty'" References: <000001cfac70$4a7e0080$df7a0180$@com> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 13:26:08 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac+scpJuyyvDRPq2QWGIq7MjalqBsQAP12fA Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 vs TR4 crank, differences? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I think, for once, there are not any differences between these crankshaft. As far as I know, they are the same in every detail. Marcel -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens John Hasty Verzonden: donderdag 31 juli 2014 5:50 Aan: Tim Murphy CC: Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] TR3 vs TR4 crank, differences? Dream on..... Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 30, 2014, at 11:34 PM, "Tim Murphy" wrote: > > I'm thinking of prepping a crankshaft for our TR4 vintage racer. I > have at least one TR3 crankshaft, a TR4 crankshaft and one or two > other unknown spares. Are there any differences or are they the same > and can be used in a TR4? > > > > I first plan to have it crack checked and checked for straightness and size. > The next step would be balancing and lightening possibly? Is there > any significant advantage to polishing the crank, other than that it > looks real pretty? Then I was going to have it bead blasted and > nitrided and finally ground with the proper radiuses and fillets. I > have to review Kas's books to check for other tips. I've got CRS > disease (Can't Remember Stuff) and it's been awhile since I read some of those books! > > > > Thanks for the info and any other tips on crank prep. Once I've got > the "new" crank I'll install it on the following rebuild with the > thought that with the forged pistons, Carrillo rods and the "new" > crank, we should be able to use 6500 RPM reliably. > > > > Tim & Ryan 1961 BRG TR4 #317 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 503992584A4E for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 06:03:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f181.google.com (mail-we0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9D92584A4E for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 06:02:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-we0-f181.google.com with SMTP id q59so9669565wes.40 for ; Tue, 01 Jul 2014 05:03:05 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:thread-index:content-language; bh=yzL2+6KS3anjNxC0cbCZJqOe0rE/tOVbpK8/ywir82c=; b=Yh/oXNd8Yi8E2C+mYiRMBLQzDC0HZHaFKX3Ux1mZuKUXuWuxWMqhqocR0nyf+VV4RA 0Zy9V2xIFQtv5Ji1jQ9HryT5qRCk/bDnrHEP3NhAE749A+RylFqI5ag5ncTA8vJ2tbr9 +35eC5/2S1uriCJuOalItxuILs/nVBSnc+Wja9GLFYjs3tJvHQjXaNWEeAfKt+YnISuA pN+ODr0uG9Sq3t030cHiMVU8vEB+1V4gxt9Rp2JHSCKEj8DaQu7SVUpwjsk4Qae2Kh5e C/IEyYRP80axAEU8jlfj0i7PKa26Tln67F2rHKeBljv9eN/7nEZZt0qiZE3VXoEN9CYn iOAQ== fa8mr30894053wib.23.1404216184936; Tue, 01 Jul 2014 05:03:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.166.164.6]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hb8sm42622345wib.12.2014.07.01.05.03.03 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 01 Jul 2014 05:03:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <272B289DB5EB4FD9A6808C0FC7063A21@GebruikerPC> <4528FBBB-ED13-407D-81C5-C058F4B02A0E@comcast.net> <20140628205114.9102725807AF@autox.team.net> <002701cf9431$d6a96dd0$83fc4970$@com> <47B55FBE-0C7C-446A-B17D-FBF9BF4C36F1@virgin.net> <53B120FC.8070607@dfn.com> <1404191020.58036.YahooMailNeo@web184705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 14:03:01 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac+U6lI8+0wCej18SbWSfJQSFYlztgAOaVdw Content-Language: de Subject: [Fot] First roll out in Europe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Hi Guys, Peters IMSA TR8 had its first go at Spa last weekend. The car did well and showed that there is more to come. I have no inboard. Didnt work, but Ive got two external videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b712OCN8us Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2F42584AC7 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 06:18:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm48.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm48.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.120.55]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4557C2584849 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 06:18:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm48.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jul 2014 12:18:16 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.131] by nm48.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jul 2014 12:15:17 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.170] by tm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jul 2014 12:15:00 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.234] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jul 2014 12:14:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1005.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jul 2014 12:14:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 13114 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Jul 2014 12:14:59 -0000 s=s1024; t=1404216899; bh=3MSeWkY9dw2vPLhGES71ficJeXliu+clx1FluflG6SY=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cOwWcy/Zo0q5Xo95mAmC9GdwHEu3+PeBfIQtdJ6YRm9vgWvvjHYVxl2PW40yDwZudykSTieXPp/bW6523xK6zXBCrUjVLhKqhlBpKMqiYsiE2M9S46WApH6nP0+6ZSFRPzvI+syDKLfQ8IfiRGlA8tlSvovbLQUzTOVE6zXl2Vc= TUuw68MTcGsCHkPUiE17Qbb59MUa0r4sYzePM4Kl0fM25IkzrEmuP.DT8pxl 4aHuNXW3cwiPHjZ_7XTOQkzH8ox.Tta0FJQim8TLBozaMwZKug6glLtPS5Dn .QeJMx51ABwTFBArLAmguLWkKmAT0nrlNgsA11pItQZgAJpbZSk9wsVfcxcT HaMOqrrKBGWh1brz9QifzqFTYq7QO_4opgZRXKmVKscH7bZ7At69Q4hwhaTa 0lG5aN9YgQCwwymSkgBgIDTVTEpDmu6AB3RgtEucUD9Qml6GlTCSKDEGLbmv 0etNzDP7nbkn1EX_aVSIxmmoe1jp.btZxn62AhcCLejXyZvF_qpVzt9ioQfq UlvS3NcK9yzlQ44ZLA0vVs7scXE6CH1E85fdcvmMN_1oDzKwQYcZneRDkO0I RoA.ndjb5KlvkrV9r8k4gcxGU6sF5FG56c3xDdSLUYpIvhyLf4clrjIChCg0 2YWkv_gFquPDP81P9.OFalXi8GeOrf.7ONkI81O1z0nWGaP..3IvRIYctR5G o.arD.PkCqYxMvg0BTtQLz91U6g-- Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web184705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Jul 2014 05:14:59 PDT R3JvdXA6IEkgb3JpZ2luYWxseSBwb3N0ZWQgdGhpcyBpbiBsYXRlIE1heSBidXQgdGhlIGxhc3QgbmV2ZXIgYWNjZXB0ZWQgaXQuCkR1cmluZyBteSBjbGVhbmluZyBvZiBob3VzZSB0aGlzIHBhc3Qgd2Vla2VuZCBJIGNhbWUgdXBvbiBhIHNtYWxsIGpvdXJuYWwgU3BpdCAxMzAwIGNyYW5rIG9uIHRoZSBzaGVsZi4gSXQgaGFzIGJlZW4gdHVybmVkIHRvIC4wMTAvLjAxMCBhbmQgaXMgcmVhZHkgZm9yIHVzZS4gU29tZW9uZSBhIHdoaWxlIGFnbyBhc2tlZCBmb3Igb3IgYWJvdXQgb25lIGFuZCBJIGNhbid0IHIBMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 05:14:59 -0700 From: EDWARD BARNARD To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Small journal Spit crank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Group: I originally posted this in late May but the last never accepted it. During my cleaning of house this past weekend I came upon a small journal Spit 1300 crank on the shelf. It has been turned to .010/.010 and is ready for use. Someone a while ago asked for or about one and I can't remember who it was. If anyone desires this please email me; in the meantime I'll give a look see to find out what I paid for the machining. I also have a couple of 1147cc cranks too if anyone is using them in their 1300's. Thanks - Ed- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC4DD2584A62 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 06:58:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qg0-f54.google.com (mail-qg0-f54.google.com [209.85.192.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E688B25848D0 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 06:58:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qg0-f54.google.com with SMTP id q107so3261306qgd.27 for ; Tue, 01 Jul 2014 05:58:24 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=JM3Fo5U0j689jqJDmtFbD5bWzQS42h59WCQ/mSAceiE=; b=jdqwXZQsbVv14nheoXFKJGolX8zK7yJw3JVieGebJTp9QuJu1yQpT0YPEIBjeZ3GEf 2S65XXBd+OXGyleOrjVJgRtpTiuV5dK8kCdCpEUn72Y+d5nf74Brt9Xbs22ffzjuSvvX fBTw85BCx3Eqik6iLcFGpV6MkfOy21f7NBuo8wQ+T8WVMYvBi6NWB5k8mttNKtfgByaq rUuHnnZVB0o/uCqVBEFVYZMfNFOsK2/LA/hh5r8b8J6fbVw+I/ZBPoo8PPlnJB9lfwqI M2po9rx5lZvZn5n5VFo3wNaPupAHYZX2DfHWCMc0aE7w2m6o7brDetPDdqfuOuY6lkoo iNUg== t8mr7971214qas.49.1404219504091; Tue, 01 Jul 2014 05:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.232.7 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 05:58:23 -0700 (PDT) References: <46906E99-0495-447D-8598-EBA8B5B714A4@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 08:58:23 -0400 From: Jason Sukey To: Jeff Durant Cc: FOT list Subject: Re: [Fot] How far can a GT6 head be milled? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Jeff, I'm pretty sure my head started as one of the earlier Mk3 heads (8.5:1 or so). It's at the machine shop right now, but I'll look at the p/n when I pick it up. Jason On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Jeff Durant wrote: > Jason, > My reason for asking is I'm prepping 2x GT6+ heads for use on my TR6 > racer. Both heads are 517528 p/n. The stock CR as fitted to a GT+ (mk2) is > 9.2:1 I believe. I thought an early mk3 was 8.5:1 and less on the later > mk3.? As the combustion space is smaller than any TR6 head, the amount of > material to skim by comparison, would be far less to hit my 13.5:1 target. > Both heads measure 3.255" currently and there appears to be plenty of meat > around the previously mentioned thin spot inboard of #1 exhaust port, but I > agree there are casting variations even with heads having the same p/n. I > need to cc the current space and calculate the final amount to remove after > stripping, cleaning and crack checking. When milling I'll be inspecting > carefully after each pass! > BTW what is the p/n of the 2 liter head you working up? > Regards, > Jeff Durant > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 30, 2014, at 8:00 AM, Jason Sukey wrote: > > Not to worry, this is the later head (off a Mk III) > Jason > > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 10:58 AM, SCOTT JANZEN wrote: > >> If it's a mk I head, toss it and find a mk II >> >> Sent from my mobile device >> >> > On Jun 30, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Jeff Durant >> wrote: >> > >> > Jason, >> > >> > GT6 mk1 or plus (mk2) head? >> > Regards, >> > >> > Jeff Durant >> > #12 TR6 >> > >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> >> On Jun 29, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Jason Sukey wrote: >> >> >> >> I'm getting ready to mill the head on my GT6 for a bump in >> compression. I >> >> currently measure 3.255" thickness, my math shows that I want to end >> up at >> >> 3.215" when I'm done. I can't find much info on how far people are >> safely >> >> milling the GT6 version of this head, only TR6 info. Does anyone have >> >> experience on this? Is there enough meat in the casting to remove this >> >> much material without hitting water? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Jason Sukey >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeff_durant@comcast.net >> > _______________________________________________ >> > fot@autox.team.net >> > >> > http://www.fot-racing.com >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457022584A6F for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 07:25:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A4AB2580843; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 07:25:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20140701132529.BSIX6169.mta11.charter.net@imp11>; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 09:25:29 -0400 Received: from mtaout002.msg.strl.va.charter.net ([68.114.190.27]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id M1RV1o0030buw5Q051RVgP; Tue, 01 Jul 2014 09:25:29 -0400 Received: from impout001 ([68.114.189.16]) by mtaout002.msg.strl.va.charter.net (InterMail vM.9.00.010.00 201-2473-137) with ESMTP id <20140701132529.UUOM26789.mtaout002.msg.strl.va.charter.net@impout001>; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 08:25:29 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([96.35.95.77]) by impout001 with charter.net id M1RU1o00E1g9dwo011RVj8; Tue, 01 Jul 2014 08:25:29 -0500 a=/0KDP2OFS7EDqW90o5sl1w==:117 a=/0KDP2OFS7EDqW90o5sl1w==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=tcnv99F1KMcA:10 a=MFawe8b5YfYA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=COknILuCEuFxwsaoQGcA:9 a=rELpIkD78MLhkFJc:21 a=vrtWL5GX1D9TK8d6:21 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=e115A8IYFWQA:10 a=i-234wmcU2wA:10 a=Sra-XWawGRAA:10 Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2014 09:25:28 -0400 From: Glenn Franco User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: Friends of triumph , "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: [Fot] TR4 vs 4A-TR6 Throwout bearing carrier Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Group We are installing an A type O/D with a TR6 trans built from a box of parts into a 64 TR4. Is there a difference in length between the TR4 vs TR6 throwout bearing carriers? Having trouble with the length of the slave cylinder pushrod fork. Obviously too long now. Thanks in advance Glenn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308AC2584A79 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 08:18:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.159]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99922584849 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 08:17:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Charly (unknown [97.126.73.210]) (Authenticated sender: charly@mitchelplumbing.com) by smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 0279D5D8076; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 09:18:02 -0500 (CDT) From: "Charly Mitchel" To: "Randall" , "'FOT'" References: <98.E9.02848.DE432B35@cdptpa-oedge03> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 07:17:59 -0700 Subject: Re: [Fot] Turbocharger Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO You guys are way overthinking this! As Kas stated, Mercedes has a motor hooked up to the turbo that produces energy when not boosting the engine and then pulls the energy from the battery to spool up the turbo when accelerating, then eliminating the lag. Charly Mitchel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randall" To: "'FOT'" Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Turbocharger >> Why can't someone design a system whereby the turbo unit is >> used to charge a >> reservoir that would in turn send pressurized air to the fuel >> system on >> demand? > > In addition to the objections already raised, you'd need a huge reservoir, > and you'd have to have an oversized turbo to fill it, > which would cut into engine power. > >> That way, there is no turbo lag. The waste gate on >> the turbo would >> still be used to keep the thing from over-charging the reservoir. > > The "hot setup" would be a variable nozzle turbo, with a microprocessor to > adjust the nozzle size according to conditions. For good > off-the-line performance, a small nozzle will accelerate the turbo spool > much faster; while a larger nozzle reduces backpressure for > better performance at high rpm. Such things do exist, but tend to be > expensive and trouble-prone. ISTR that Porsche 911 used them > for a few years, as well as others. > > Here's some advertising material on the concept: > http://www.blaylock-turbo.com/switchbladeturbo.asp > > Randall > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9E02584A73 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 10:51:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.23.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 916E02584A66 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 10:51:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 15627 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jul 2014 16:51:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw4) (10.0.90.85) by gproxy4.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 1 Jul 2014 16:51:07 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw4 with id M4r21o01x1NzpT9014r5S2; Tue, 01 Jul 2014 10:51:07 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=ROSYhLzGBnAA:10 a=yKqyAkVeGwwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=8A7brI4kjU8C6ETGAX3PRdgeao0=:19 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=jk7U8kq6AAAA:20 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=tYhxvyPelIdvLI7UzicA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=voZrjb6_8qcA:10 a=psXREZS0v_AA:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=61397 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1X21Go-0001Co-NI; Tue, 01 Jul 2014 10:51:02 -0600 Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2014 11:50:57 -0500 To: "MadMarx" , From: Tony Drews References: <272B289DB5EB4FD9A6808C0FC7063A21@GebruikerPC> <4528FBBB-ED13-407D-81C5-C058F4B02A0E@comcast.net> <20140628205114.9102725807AF@autox.team.net> <002701cf9431$d6a96dd0$83fc4970$@com> <47B55FBE-0C7C-446A-B17D-FBF9BF4C36F1@virgin.net> <53B120FC.8070607@dfn.com> <1404191020.58036.YahooMailNeo@web184705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <003801cf9524$6940a800$3bc1f800$@com> {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] First roll out in Europe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Fantastic! Great to hear it run through au rouge! Tony Drews At 07:03 AM 7/1/2014, MadMarx wrote: >Hi Guys, > > > >Peters IMSA TR8 had its first go at Spa last weekend. > >The car did well and showed that there is more to come. > >I have no inboard. Didnt work, but Ive got two external videos. > > > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b712OCN8us > > > > > >Chris >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48B22584A92 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 12:48:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail316c9.megamailservers.com (mail471c9.megamailservers.com [69.156.243.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4EE25808EF for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 12:48:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dtjhh ([64.128.77.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail316c9.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id s61ImJ8i009179 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 14:48:24 -0400 From: "John Hasty" To: Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 14:48:19 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac+VXO1BLKGiUE2jQ1Oy0OIxvYkX2A== Content-Language: en-us reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: [Fot] OD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Steve Yott please contact me off line about an A Overdrive...thanks... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 866B32584AC7 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 13:27:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail290c9.megamailservers.com (mail464c9.megamailservers.com [69.156.243.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347BF2580754 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 13:27:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dtjhh ([64.128.77.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail290c9.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id s61JRIPR022289 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 15:27:23 -0400 From: "John Hasty" To: Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 15:27:18 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac+VYJ198XQlhBsPSi67QnBaavuO7A== Content-Language: en-us reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: [Fot] Mid Ohio Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Mid Ohio was clear and hot and the racing was great. Not as many there this year as last and several of usual suspects were not in attendance. I 'spose Indy and its cost may have kept some away. I only counted about 4 Triumphs, Mark Craig and Marty Sukey in their spits and me in the 3 and Dave Spiwak in his 4. Bill Tobin was in attendance but not his car. Dave and I had wheel to wheel battles in both the Sat. and Sun. races. There were a flock of Minis there from all over the country. Joe Huffaker brought his Mini and the Jensen Healey from the west coast. I think he won the Mini race but the ex Mueler Jensen broke. Group 3 had 33 cars and the Eprod class was won by Dan O'Connor in a very, very fast Elva. His times were the same as the Cprod cars! I managed 3rd. in E on Sat and 2nd on Sun. My friend Ceasar Cone in Cprod had a faster time by a couple of tenths than Vic Skirmants' and John Schrecker's 356's in his Alfa Duetto but wasn't able to keep past them..big accomplishment I think. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6512584A81 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 19:46:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF2C25849D0 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 19:46:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.88]) by qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id MDVT1o0031u4NiLA7DmocS; Wed, 02 Jul 2014 01:46:48 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.11] ([24.4.249.195]) by omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id MDmn1o0084Dhf3s8hDmotv; Wed, 02 Jul 2014 01:46:48 +0000 References: <006101cf9562$79f5f6d0$6de1e470$@gdhs.com> From: Dave Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 18:46:49 -0700 To: "jhhasty@gdhs.com" s=q20140121; t=1404265608; bh=0y8hl53KVQeFxHzoXvJqvRB5cCcm7Kc0TV8tw6e6THE=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=UiHzOdMKvUVshhtMZmYYf2UDX+8xF7bQUkMBnPlwISJxzPjUmezHlHYeVdsWqgRm1 oYYg/d3jxKHBcVYwHkLaZ73jpCEOoklmP4kMV3B4QKRe7KVjyAdt4rNlXzmdgElCeN HVnNd3eEZfMWwEkzrAr16To4J4V0mHmLRNypkEMJlq/6hP9kME0Y0UAC+8XOleSt3X +Rjg1mw9ByqiPiJc9wiU5j12Qo8WGNYJLYRniyi03VOJNSSYCOecS0eSWjLwya2ANH RVPSKqsSJSqGEQEQoEzLdfBJjNJPLLIQZGj/3yDwbKs3G/EhuTmCKrTWGcLTgz5oG1 rrwAI8gMPpfRg== Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Mid Ohio Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Nice update to your weekend at MidOhio. I know Huffaker was at Indy. Must have kept the race rig close. Thanks for sharing. Sent from my iPad > On Jul 1, 2014, at 12:27 PM, "John Hasty" wrote: > > Mid Ohio was clear and hot and the racing was great. Not as many there this > year as last and several of usual suspects were not in attendance. I 'spose > Indy and its cost may have kept some away. I only counted about 4 Triumphs, > Mark Craig and Marty Sukey in their spits and me in the 3 and Dave Spiwak in > his 4. Bill Tobin was in attendance but not his car. Dave and I had wheel > to wheel battles in both the Sat. and Sun. races. There were a flock of > Minis there from all over the country. Joe Huffaker brought his Mini and > the Jensen Healey from the west coast. I think he won the Mini race but the > ex Mueler Jensen broke. Group 3 had 33 cars and the Eprod class was won by > Dan O'Connor in a very, very fast Elva. His times were the same as the Cprod > cars! I managed 3rd. in E on Sat and 2nd on Sun. My friend Ceasar Cone in > Cprod had a faster time by a couple of tenths than Vic Skirmants' and John > Schrecker's 356's in his Alfa Duetto but wasn't able to keep past them..big > accomplishment I think. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EEB12584D30 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 16:21:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B5E2584C04; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 16:21:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20140702222145.HWOC6769.mta31.charter.net@imp11>; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 18:21:45 -0400 Received: from mtaout005.msg.strl.va.charter.net ([68.114.190.30]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id MaMl1o0040fnx6C05aMl7K; Wed, 02 Jul 2014 18:21:45 -0400 Received: from impout005 ([68.114.189.20]) by mtaout005.msg.strl.va.charter.net (InterMail vM.9.00.010.00 201-2473-137) with ESMTP id <20140702222145.PKFI23052.mtaout005.msg.strl.va.charter.net@impout005>; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 17:21:45 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([71.13.57.46]) by impout005 with charter.net id MaMk1o0040zqE8701aMlsm; Wed, 02 Jul 2014 17:21:45 -0500 a=T8ZvV9MwTeTB9gBQdg/YAw==:117 a=T8ZvV9MwTeTB9gBQdg/YAw==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=tcnv99F1KMcA:10 a=tyMuzblRpscA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=Ex25Ogw24G6Pw17CDHAA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 18:21:44 -0400 From: Glenn Franco User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: fot@autox.team.net, "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> References: <53A34FF6.9020707@charter.net> <53A75373.3040205@charter.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] A-Type O/D Testing & TR4 vs 4A-TR6 Release Bearing Sleeve Thickness Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Thanks all for the input on A-Type (Box O Parts) Overdrive testing and Release bearing sleeve. Trans and O/D work fine (leaks a little-bad Moss part) Swapped out the release bearing sleeve for the bronze one from the TR4. Everything works OK at this point. I can confirm that the TR4 has a shorter bronze sleeve than the TR6 and the TR4 uses a Borg & Beck coil spring 3 finger Clutch Cover or pressure plate. Glenn >> Group >> I'm trying to bench test an A type that I overhauled this past winter >> from a box of parts. >> I also have an A type that I took out of a 71 TR6 that I would like >> to test before using them in any cars. >> >> 1st dumb question >> What do you think the minimum input shaft speed needs to be to allow >> the O/D to engage. >> >> I fabricated an adapter from a clutch hub and various pieces of steel >> on a lathe to drive the trans from the input shaft. >> >> I'm spinning the adapter with a large 1/2 inch drill but the max >> drill speed is only a little over 500 RPM which is probably not enough. >> >> I get oil flow up the operating valve when the plug is removed but no >> engagement. This is the result of spinning both transmissions. >> >> Any suggestions/more RPM's >> Thanks Glenn > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gaf3@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57CAA2584C3F for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 17:14:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f179.google.com (mail-pd0-f179.google.com [209.85.192.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C41FC2584C00 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 17:14:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f179.google.com with SMTP id w10so12742233pde.38 for ; Wed, 02 Jul 2014 16:14:25 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=eU7VzTKiPxYl01mvGuMYHef3mDhnhFx+wDp4uYGF0E8=; b=EbyUUWlUbusuJqasi06B4nOj3SBAT5OtwxNzrAcC1tLXVwwIa0vLKeHIx1xjZ+RKMu PhQXqBHmHoFbQlSGC6PejYzaFf5FxDo+SIZoKH3zwT5d7q3KgI+Mg3ORTlsQgNCHQixt SncVXRHPeahgqmDjP+5oPlRhC/x+UFiXC3gJhu8bbQoOqGOQFuBFr3gf6ndR5JUV4wCs ZIaaRVC9AGL5OmipiCaMGypamgYNNzrbDRGXzkMlErnQasFhIwTblWni8SfqsmJIm2x1 8V1WsJLzV5z79IAk2fTXrJpVt49QMK8pV6QV15Df9BSGdhtpw73hq+IrJaZSTVUayKxL RTYQ== Wed, 02 Jul 2014 16:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.91.164 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 16:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 18:14:25 -0500 From: Jerry Poole To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Spitfire oversized alternator pulley/water pump pulley Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Could anyone on the forum please direct me to a source for oversized pulleys for a Denso alternator and a stock 1500 water pump? Does anyone remove any of the vanes from the stock 1500cc water pump to prevent cavitation or slow down the water flow? This will be used on a vintage race car. Appreciate any insight and information and thanks. Jerry _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80EE32584C2D for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 17:35:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail175c2.megamailservers.com (mail175c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C245F2584AF9 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 17:35:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.250.162.217] (11.sub-174-252-146.myvzw.com [174.252.146.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail175c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id s62NZBLZ024687 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 2 Jul 2014 19:35:18 -0400 References: From: John Hasty Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 19:35:09 -0400 To: Jerry Poole reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire oversized alternator pulley/water pump pulley Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Seems like I recall that Don Marshall worked all this out on his Spit. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Jerry Poole wrote: > > Could anyone on the forum please direct me to a source for oversized > pulleys for a Denso alternator and a stock 1500 water pump? Does > anyone remove any of the vanes from the stock 1500cc water pump to > prevent cavitation or slow down the water flow? This will be used on > a vintage race car. Appreciate any insight and information and > thanks. Jerry > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6962584A52 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 20:36:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f46.google.com (mail-qa0-f46.google.com [209.85.216.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9D625808BB for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 20:35:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id i13so9543749qae.19 for ; Wed, 02 Jul 2014 19:36:01 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Vao8e+4NJoCsK1Abbv2QDgUShor+7FJZ5aXvSs7pTtw=; b=lyirO2IGLUNOBJi0dRjaeGQATPDhqaq3TnvgEZacMWU+sJmsWy+RMawXS8Q1WzJZfG GzkGfJhixHqldV+r6qfUanhsRxjhy6c1Ki9Pb9Gik/d5Uc+sjVpl0QQDDJctWlVbBWdx NAzhPik+qTWptt/wLwDD5k5fEOCeJLO3sYfzZghIpaMfYsNV0AeQC1LxlzLyZNznk3N5 1WMoZ5gQKeuaJ5qdPjp92zCFFI2LneMmk1Vxy+h1XTEYw0+J/fqnsOlPCN/+EWm8iUc0 ASSZ1uktY1pWjGEB5cjp4Py2UOPSnjYlsYWMOHbePgOkx51ICpFZumLuSdSBVnYbbOlw y/Uw== b46mr2699941qgd.102.1404354961208; Wed, 02 Jul 2014 19:36:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.232.7 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 19:36:01 -0700 (PDT) References: <46906E99-0495-447D-8598-EBA8B5B714A4@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 22:36:01 -0400 From: Jason Sukey To: Jeff Durant Cc: FOT list Subject: Re: [Fot] How far can a GT6 head be milled? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Jeff, Just checked my head, it is also the 517528 p/n. It was milled at least once before, has been ported and the chambers worked over. At 3.255" I measured the chamber at 31.1cc. I ended up only having it milled to 3.235", looks like there is still a lot of material left. Jason On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Jeff Durant wrote: > Jason, > My reason for asking is I'm prepping 2x GT6+ heads for use on my TR6 > racer. Both heads are 517528 p/n. The stock CR as fitted to a GT+ (mk2) is > 9.2:1 I believe. I thought an early mk3 was 8.5:1 and less on the later > mk3.? As the combustion space is smaller than any TR6 head, the amount of > material to skim by comparison, would be far less to hit my 13.5:1 target. > Both heads measure 3.255" currently and there appears to be plenty of meat > around the previously mentioned thin spot inboard of #1 exhaust port, but I > agree there are casting variations even with heads having the same p/n. I > need to cc the current space and calculate the final amount to remove after > stripping, cleaning and crack checking. When milling I'll be inspecting > carefully after each pass! > BTW what is the p/n of the 2 liter head you working up? > Regards, > Jeff Durant > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 30, 2014, at 8:00 AM, Jason Sukey wrote: > > Not to worry, this is the later head (off a Mk III) > Jason > > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 10:58 AM, SCOTT JANZEN wrote: > >> If it's a mk I head, toss it and find a mk II >> >> Sent from my mobile device >> >> > On Jun 30, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Jeff Durant >> wrote: >> > >> > Jason, >> > >> > GT6 mk1 or plus (mk2) head? >> > Regards, >> > >> > Jeff Durant >> > #12 TR6 >> > >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> >> On Jun 29, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Jason Sukey wrote: >> >> >> >> I'm getting ready to mill the head on my GT6 for a bump in >> compression. I >> >> currently measure 3.255" thickness, my math shows that I want to end >> up at >> >> 3.215" when I'm done. I can't find much info on how far people are >> safely >> >> milling the GT6 version of this head, only TR6 info. Does anyone have >> >> experience on this? Is there enough meat in the casting to remove this >> >> much material without hitting water? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Jason Sukey >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeff_durant@comcast.net >> > _______________________________________________ >> > fot@autox.team.net >> > >> > http://www.fot-racing.com >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B2342584949 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 00:28:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy8-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy8-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.33.93]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6BE5C25802BC for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 00:28:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 16287 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jul 2014 06:28:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO CMOut01) (10.0.90.82) by gproxy8.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 3 Jul 2014 06:28:29 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by CMOut01 with id MiUQ1o00B1NzpT901iUTll; Thu, 03 Jul 2014 00:28:29 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=QXDoI0PPdREA:10 a=yKqyAkVeGwwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=0biZErHmA546RGhApUMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=51569 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1X2aVM-0006YO-26; Thu, 03 Jul 2014 00:28:24 -0600 Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 01:28:18 -0500 To: Glenn Franco ,fot@autox.team.net, "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> From: Tony Drews References: <53A34FF6.9020707@charter.net> <53A75373.3040205@charter.net> <53B485F8.5090103@charter.net> {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] A-Type O/D Testing & TR4 vs 4A-TR6 Release Bearing Sleeve Thickness Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO I think that most of us who race the bit TR-s have gone to the diaphragm clutch like on a TR4a. The ones with fingers have been known to come apart at high RPM and are a good test of the tensile strength of the scatter shield or of your feet. That's not a part I care to test. Tony Drews At 05:21 PM 7/2/2014, Glenn Franco wrote: >Thanks all for the input on A-Type (Box O Parts) Overdrive testing >and Release bearing sleeve. >Trans and O/D work fine (leaks a little-bad Moss part) Swapped out >the release bearing sleeve for the bronze one from the TR4. >Everything works OK at this point. >I can confirm that the TR4 has a shorter bronze sleeve than the TR6 >and the TR4 uses a Borg & Beck coil spring 3 finger Clutch Cover or >pressure plate. >Glenn > >>>Group >>>I'm trying to bench test an A type that I overhauled this past >>>winter from a box of parts. >>>I also have an A type that I took out of a 71 TR6 that I would >>>like to test before using them in any cars. >>> >>>1st dumb question >>>What do you think the minimum input shaft speed needs to be to >>>allow the O/D to engage. >>> >>>I fabricated an adapter from a clutch hub and various pieces of >>>steel on a lathe to drive the trans from the input shaft. >>> >>>I'm spinning the adapter with a large 1/2 inch drill but the max >>>drill speed is only a little over 500 RPM which is probably not enough. >>> >>>I get oil flow up the operating valve when the plug is removed but >>>no engagement. This is the result of spinning both transmissions. >>> >>>Any suggestions/more RPM's >>>Thanks Glenn >>_______________________________________________ >>fot@autox.team.net >> >>http://www.fot-racing.com >> >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gaf3@charter.net >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2198A25808DC for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 04:59:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f49.google.com (mail-wg0-f49.google.com [74.125.82.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF8942580821 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 04:59:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f49.google.com with SMTP id y10so33216wgg.32 for ; Thu, 03 Jul 2014 03:59:49 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=5xxjhvKznGHiH5AUW94Luusdb1SfiEIbHFKAX0tiRqY=; b=UUpEkf81MwokKc/+obgp16olu4Sr75BT3qVG3dPwSUaFKGNeRi8YTdWDX1x/CkDdXA erALNA5J7tkx9l7C5WoqE8G8nCFwqWmUvGAWnnKao65h+aYxWtht3Djt6KE28vpIjF0w UbmpjqlGoc+3ebW9U0ofa5YfEq35qMRsDDvNhjymJRym/yya4l6NWv1h7+K7E51UZoSL YRBt3V+/iW1I6pEVybI8Yb0BbQxAx+Q8wEpXEQieHplx244Eu4nnK3AsblpewXCB+wuX qVOdI+ZYv37qIG00AaGWXbWepYsk4TnruiixjNk1q0cdoaiVdGjSud0J/VnrEmg10Y2O 8Ofw== qe5mr10357859wic.79.1404385189743; Thu, 03 Jul 2014 03:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.166.118.179]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id cx5sm61313060wjb.8.2014.07.03.03.59.48 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 03 Jul 2014 03:59:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <53A34FF6.9020707@charter.net> <53A75373.3040205@charter.net> <53B485F8.5090103@charter.net> <20140703062825.0C4C825802BC@autox.team.net> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 12:59:48 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac+WiAT2PpqzLDkeT0msQuMjKYGBvgAJb3LA Content-Language: de Subject: [Fot] Video of Triumphs on the Nordschleife Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO For your attention: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci-hDRBRpO0 Another John Clancy master piece. Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4D82584E6B for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 05:10:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE88525802EC for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 05:10:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.36]) by qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Mn831o0060mv7h057nAUEx; Thu, 03 Jul 2014 11:10:28 +0000 Received: from CraigHP ([68.33.54.73]) by omta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id MnAT1o00G1amW3o3XnATKj; Thu, 03 Jul 2014 11:10:28 +0000 From: "Craig Wensley" To: "'Tony Drews'" , , <6pack@autox.team.net> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 07:10:27 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac+Wrz8ruZx7p6rkQMO2TrAry1oaqA== Content-Language: en-us s=q20140121; t=1404385828; bh=1nAoUHcbNTy5B4jlmcD6kJ4GTaPnleIgXt0zKjuRitQ=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=p9fiNWRbCzVmOvNsS36Tc1KktQxeJpCv4aKSL5tv7Vz7+hixvxahl7QAAt2t4/Vuj hEFjgeEPWrldBzcgQHaXVOKhz5r3Ouo1ktbOnhU+QV3ta3iRBi348h+n+AA2SCMM9e q57r6cNkKJeyO6lYMxvnOHd1sWi0+BX634KFoFZNylB1wRo+5kvFZGVwFUh5sL5eHN Pn2TZYAfcH7caclpoBZm+gX671r1M2PWAZxbVFSS/zXyfjXAelwqAEUr01jBlSDvfg O0rPwz2TS+HM7V+pIxm52VQnqs5pcErH5ZS8JPuZTpnf7EDcqDHrYI55Ovj8rihoQp EoeOc9tUhNZMQ== Subject: [Fot] Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Question: Is there a supplier for the 6 bladed or more water pumps and light weight housing for the 6s, for street use? Any opinions and thought will be most appreciated. Craig _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC452584ECC for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 05:46:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m09.mx.aol.com (omr-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6092580314 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 05:45:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aai01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aai01.mx.aol.com [172.27.2.99]) by omr-m09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 13CB7700000A4; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 07:45:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dtb004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dtb004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.162.205]) by mtaomg-aai01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D6AD638000081; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 07:45:39 -0400 (EDT) References: <53A34FF6.9020707@charter.net> <53A75373.3040205@charter.net> <53B485F8.5090103@charter.net> <20140703062825.0C4C825802BC@autox.team.net> <002801cf96ad$e8f7db60$bae79220$@com> To: tr4racing@googlemail.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Bruce Lapierre Received: from 173.188.56.72 by webmail-d247.sysops.aol.com (205.188.17.51) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 03 Jul 2014 07:45:39 -0400 Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 07:45:39 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1404387940; bh=mq4puZE+Cvk20WbQDHlS9gGv16N9cbmO2LOYzrDmwjg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EbDoX/hmxaNbV+zoh/utmTBElutsyv09qXMSMFjdd/502t5n/w26sf9u9I3z5jIbp J9I9cTmIMtuSpqTxjk7CmD0+kFv4Y4BHEI8FtknEAmduhI/NEjSDZaIs6Jz3Tcq871 Eq5oFvZdPSh2eYrdz4OWlDBaHaweZMG2cTIqYu4M= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b026353b542630140 Subject: Re: [Fot] Video of Triumphs on the Nordschleife Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Great video. Thanks for sharing -----Original Message----- From: MadMarx To: fot Sent: Thu, Jul 3, 2014 7:36 am Subject: [Fot] Video of Triumphs on the Nordschleife For your attention: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci-hDRBRpO0 Another John Clancy master piece. Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 459062584F00 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 05:54:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f171.google.com (mail-wi0-f171.google.com [209.85.212.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 169402584E76 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 05:54:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id n15so11266748wiw.10 for ; Thu, 03 Jul 2014 04:54:47 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:thread-index:content-language; bh=PLmmHYCRXwOc4YpfHHlAk3Hxm5XB/T6PO7e2UFt0uVY=; b=ewmR4LFm93d0VkrYbRuWG9KQ0lX14Gewt8AwUArGAtqbpbuMmruOL5X/IWpmGXYZR2 ZZ3+OSbzBvntmCumouJEfvQFPvNc5euQNrmu4IAUoaUhW7tJlnU0K73VcfYIza/AxSgE J8yqfPNr2wFwlGhnx2zBKqCMH8IWOA2TXcPNLXecuvNzqKAZObch1cEZlO/VavWq6Mzl t7ja0DA5b367TyaPFfr6wltdp8/oKb/Ys2uNphApzfLHHZLgixCxcLQrm7HEnUZQfBRT BBE5Y3/fSOLSi6MtuFbnTm/mttxw/uDtr9Uf2IBWsR4ky07sx46c0zfY3b46UP76nB8y H4Zw== ib1mr1930853wjb.129.1404388486896; Thu, 03 Jul 2014 04:54:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.166.118.179]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f6sm61585219wja.25.2014.07.03.04.54.45 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 03 Jul 2014 04:54:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <53A34FF6.9020707@charter.net> <53A75373.3040205@charter.net> <53B485F8.5090103@charter.net> <20140703062825.0C4C825802BC@autox.team.net> <002801cf96ad$e8f7db60$bae79220$@com> <8D164CB723EEFD7-C4C-19001@webmail-d247.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 13:54:44 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac+WtFC+hJ00yrtURZazNibnOBo/owAANBvQ Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Video of Triumphs on the Nordschleife Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO John created also a page for purchasing the video: http://www.bfcc.biz/triumphdvd/tcdvd.html I think this is a very nice report from the Nordschleife with many comments of drivers. Also a short capture of Peters IMSA TR8 and why it wasnt allowed to race. Cheers Chris -----Original Message----- To: fot Sent: Thu, Jul 3, 2014 7:36 am Subject: [Fot] Video of Triumphs on the Nordschleife For your attention: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci-hDRBRpO0 Another John Clancy master piece. Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttr4@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698A42580747 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 10:22:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E79F2580747; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 10:22:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20140704162227.EPYI6169.mta11.charter.net@imp10>; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 12:22:27 -0400 Received: from mtaout004.msg.strl.va.charter.net ([68.114.190.29]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id NGNT1o0090eWGlw05GNTJ7; Fri, 04 Jul 2014 12:22:27 -0400 Received: from impout003 ([68.114.189.18]) by mtaout004.msg.strl.va.charter.net (InterMail vM.9.00.010.00 201-2473-137) with ESMTP id <20140704162227.KILO22769.mtaout004.msg.strl.va.charter.net@impout003>; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 11:22:27 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([71.13.57.46]) by impout003 with charter.net id NGNS1o00B0zqE8701GNTx7; Fri, 04 Jul 2014 11:22:27 -0500 a=T8ZvV9MwTeTB9gBQdg/YAw==:117 a=T8ZvV9MwTeTB9gBQdg/YAw==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=tcnv99F1KMcA:10 a=ckcgTP65ZtMA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=01fxadeUAAuC4yUFrVYA:9 a=KnIQTjNpk6KJRuwj:21 a=nxZOtsBJIoVzvY-w:21 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2014 12:22:27 -0400 From: Glenn Franco User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: Friends of triumph , "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: [Fot] TR4 Wetliner Engine Cam Install Problems --- Happy 4th Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Happy 4th!!! I'm building my 3rd Wetliner Triumph engine in the last 6 months and have run into a problem with the cam install. The owner had the engine baked and the cam bearings installed at his machine shop. The cam won't make it but a third of the way into the first cam bearing. I have gone so far as to put a stone on the leading edge of the cam journal to reduce the lead in size with no effect. I've lightly tapped it with a small plastic dead blow but it won't give. Having installed cam bearings in the past. when I had the tool available, they take the shape of the I.D. of the casting unless they were buggered on the install. I ran into this on a TR3 engine this past winter but the bearings were not aligned and I could wiggle the camshaft and get the thing in. This is the original cam and it doesn't look like the end is mushroomed. All I can assume is that the cam bearing is not installed correctly. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks in advance Glenn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F20C1258076B for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 12:03:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686D225804F3; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 12:03:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20140704180319.LWCG6769.mta31.charter.net@imp10>; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 14:03:19 -0400 Received: from mtaout006.msg.strl.va.charter.net ([68.114.190.31]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id NJ3K1o0030h5dSU05J3KZD; Fri, 04 Jul 2014 14:03:19 -0400 Received: from impout006 ([68.114.189.21]) by mtaout006.msg.strl.va.charter.net (InterMail vM.9.00.010.00 201-2473-137) with ESMTP id <20140704180319.LUXK23206.mtaout006.msg.strl.va.charter.net@impout006>; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 13:03:19 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([71.13.57.46]) by impout006 with charter.net id NJ3J1o0030zqE8701J3KRq; Fri, 04 Jul 2014 13:03:19 -0500 a=T8ZvV9MwTeTB9gBQdg/YAw==:117 a=T8ZvV9MwTeTB9gBQdg/YAw==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=tcnv99F1KMcA:10 a=si7pRLRYJNQA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=U7LYp7gNEj8Bu9Lw0yUA:9 a=SOURVv-qPTov1pbd:21 a=V5xpPRHzGiuKRhNL:21 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2014 14:03:18 -0400 From: Glenn Franco User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: fot@autox.team.net, "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>, Brian Leslie References: <53B6D4C3.2020908@charter.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Wetliner Engine Cam Install Problems --- Happy 4th Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Thanks for the fast response. The installer put the cam bearings in wrong. The cam bearing holes are not lined up with the 3 bolts that located them in the block. I managed to get the cam in but there is too much drag now. I will have to drill out the bearings so the plugs don't deform the bearings any more. Glenn On 7/4/2014 12:22 PM, Glenn Franco wrote: > Happy 4th!!! > > I'm building my 3rd Wetliner Triumph engine in the last 6 months and > have run into a problem with the cam install. > > The owner had the engine baked and the cam bearings installed at his > machine shop. > > The cam won't make it but a third of the way into the first cam bearing. > I have gone so far as to put a stone on the leading edge of the cam > journal to reduce the lead in size with no effect. > I've lightly tapped it with a small plastic dead blow but it won't give. > > Having installed cam bearings in the past. when I had the tool > available, they take the shape of the I.D. of the casting unless they > were buggered on the install. > > I ran into this on a TR3 engine this past winter but the bearings were > not aligned and I could wiggle the camshaft and get the thing in. > > This is the original cam and it doesn't look like the end is > mushroomed. All I can assume is that the cam bearing is not installed > correctly. > > Any advice would be appreciated. > Thanks in advance > Glenn > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gaf3@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3522580791 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 13:36:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.23.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0596A258075C for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 13:35:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 22030 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jul 2014 19:35:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO CMOut01) (10.0.90.82) by gproxy4.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 4 Jul 2014 19:35:40 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by CMOut01 with id NKba1o00B1NzpT901Kbd53; Fri, 04 Jul 2014 13:35:40 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=si7pRLRYJNQA:10 a=yKqyAkVeGwwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=-SQXUzdhm-xOpkoeGr8A:9 a=L0VRax8F6_YO7Zki:21 a=W2vb1B1agkV47Mdo:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=62422 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1X39Gg-0003fW-0F; Fri, 04 Jul 2014 13:35:34 -0600 Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2014 14:35:27 -0500 To: Glenn Franco ,fot@autox.team.net, "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>, Brian Leslie From: Tony Drews References: <53B6D4C3.2020908@charter.net> <53B6EC66.5020807@charter.net> {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Wetliner Engine Cam Install Problems --- Happy 4th Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Note that the rearmost cam bearing has a hole to feed to rocker arm pedestal. If that one's misaligned you won't get oil to the head unless you have the external oil feed line. Tony Drews At 01:03 PM 7/4/2014, Glenn Franco wrote: >Thanks for the fast response. >The installer put the cam bearings in wrong. >The cam bearing holes are not lined up with the 3 bolts that located >them in the block. >I managed to get the cam in but there is too much drag now. I will >have to drill out the bearings so the plugs don't deform the bearings any more. >Glenn > >On 7/4/2014 12:22 PM, Glenn Franco wrote: >>Happy 4th!!! >> >>I'm building my 3rd Wetliner Triumph engine in the last 6 months >>and have run into a problem with the cam install. >> >>The owner had the engine baked and the cam bearings installed at >>his machine shop. >> >>The cam won't make it but a third of the way into the first cam bearing. >>I have gone so far as to put a stone on the leading edge of the cam >>journal to reduce the lead in size with no effect. >>I've lightly tapped it with a small plastic dead blow but it won't give. >> >>Having installed cam bearings in the past. when I had the tool >>available, they take the shape of the I.D. of the casting unless >>they were buggered on the install. >> >>I ran into this on a TR3 engine this past winter but the bearings >>were not aligned and I could wiggle the camshaft and get the thing in. >> >>This is the original cam and it doesn't look like the end is >>mushroomed. All I can assume is that the cam bearing is not >>installed correctly. >> >>Any advice would be appreciated. >>Thanks in advance >>Glenn >>_______________________________________________ >>fot@autox.team.net >> >>http://www.fot-racing.com >> >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gaf3@charter.net >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C728D258079B for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 18:22:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE5E5258078C for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 18:22:13 -0600 (MDT) s=s2048; t=1404519744; bh=sovtauqTPNEFw/MGccbN87nCfC1l3t2hS78ge09dzzU=; b=VZ1bxo0O/AU9ux+pF6aHn0g93Gi8hoqDnlv/RpBqkkn1mj6km/PKdB17JtFvv07nQHUAGk7PZEinxhE/1tyx53xHssZSPexRDxgDIlPlHRYyqrPzvEwS9g3KQ8vqeoqtm4VH9cKSEL2MgXQWZz00ZN9LlRx8seJ/tpgytBVyLwkPjkSlBb8FImdt81UoMV3wIIsZ4cJ+cRIlSW9wa0uQy4hyanpUP0HYu9U5bNob+yf8dBp9yTqJiK+9RPuVXNklDdtqFRFg/djdL6/ClDYMaiMJO3QPU+hGoS+cjfaQ4HoaE7nq4KDFudR7CwF3kaoWhfe30bGNb0qkkEIkeKJ4Bw== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=att.net; b=n3obqKGIH4N5hmYQa3L3ihnHYBIc6IU2giJd+LNjrBJIC+mxxh9J4PgRwe+C9pVT35Z2c8M8Bm1na2FZ7S2p6EckQB4Tz1E8VYNhmf84jOeS/pxCQkXLMa9w6qvy5EECYm0nJytE7/RnlnstVGqKnTpaxIXrPHrKPbbt55osoLetFuZ1Hex9q+2z1PsoI2FxVjFEwlZmmHJHFWSQ6L5L6ORW6CcjQshh8cmhyNeWDT/3fQ98fC15r4sBMm+F8BciujqH3AOl7gpsuZygKWnBJZfSIt9cJZUVA3OaIXyzpYK57lMOQG28u/v7S0BoM6p7mj41UHEqNPQ20fBYHhwozg==; Received: from [98.138.100.114] by nm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jul 2014 00:22:24 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.113] by tm105.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jul 2014 00:22:24 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp222.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jul 2014 00:22:24 -0000 s=s1024; t=1404519744; bh=sovtauqTPNEFw/MGccbN87nCfC1l3t2hS78ge09dzzU=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Message-ID:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:MIME-Version:From:To:Subject:Importance:Date:References:Content-Type; b=SNT2J7xptuPxfk/D6QMZcbBIce9bOU3THjQd9nKEk/ZeLHIQSy+L8eGNtH/MNd5qbKj294F98nq7FSBtPG7bKGZu/kImE8KXFY4cm+vOr/uINXg6pD7AyVD6xAqBUb31Bssj9FDhh6nTpMn0aL25vlUVEJfEd0eUDxeCGhSrhBw= erRAgGs0kni00dTvaz3dTxnxanwhJhx7sffr.NVMUeMEuSzPHyzcu0HLW_Ik wmos91Eww9C4iMywrYEWlxKo6iUnbjN03PP6a6QK1s28SN_mt0phTiKlA5G. zy51s49lk7EBPdbAZSvxRnGNE5cGOQ6t11YZXpICwcg7rV.O2TNblZUCWr55 Y8xbXQmkons0XQfcZxaF9B5mjmm3O9DprAy9cXIzv8zjzWCMBwexeiFSZv.O QV.VDRsORuuJEAJq4Y8y8KK5xG2faMj4_bd130rv65UJtqinHwUNRQ5GX_p9 0R44FFucQiSOpK4NzChDx3c.aevhag6ANvH_LYfazXLaCcbqh9ELNG_LV01s eh2hX0dnySaudyQmGGqQM_BWPK.ZJSy19cl7y0PGJCFFnuxB.l95QTf30diG KWmb3IMa3g7qYltuNIRS.13MkRPR8gkMfyfvxisOaBOrc0htpUttTAeFhZYf TCEgQ0iLmx5Djl5aUpoKh0VccknUDxwTQR65R0QXJKyPPIYRNQXDbXZWtjiz lZ9vrPSBCwolkRAGM37ftoj_ukHqKmjtUw4ZQMcPfRoBGNL7yLRU- From: To: "=?utf-8?Q?fot@autox.team.net?=" Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 00:21:39 +0000 References: , <44E4812F-ADF0-468F-B18C-FB5B291F55A8@gdhs.com> Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Fw=3A__Spitfire_oversized_alternator_pulley/water?= =?utf-8?q?_pump__pulley?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Sent from Windows Mail From: rick.parent@att.net Sent: bThursdayb, bJulyb b3b, b2014 b1b:b23b bPM To: fot@autox.team.net I just checked our 302 Trans-am motor, 2006 Fusion Cup car and the Spit crank to water pump ratio and all 3 are between 64-68% under driven. I run the Spit with a block off plate in the thermostat housing with a 3/4 hole in it. We have a hard time getting the water to 180 and that's on a hot day. I donbt see any reason to remove vanes from the water pump, plus there are only 4 of them. We run 68% under drive on the Denso mini alternator. Hope this helps Sent from Windows Mail From: John Hasty Sent: bWednesdayb, bJulyb b2b, b2014 b7b:b35b bPM To: Jerry Poole Cc: fot@autox.team.net Seems like I recall that Don Marshall worked all this out on his Spit. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Jerry Poole wrote: > > Could anyone on the forum please direct me to a source for oversized > pulleys for a Denso alternator and a stock 1500 water pump? Does > anyone remove any of the vanes from the stock 1500cc water pump to > prevent cavitation or slow down the water flow? This will be used on > a vintage race car. Appreciate any insight and information and > thanks. Jerry > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F732580AFC for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 07:22:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC2S31.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s31.hotmail.com [65.55.111.106]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 436B72580459 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 07:22:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU402-EAS332 ([65.55.111.73]) by BLU004-OMC2S31.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Sat, 5 Jul 2014 06:22:31 -0700 From: marty To: =?utf-8?Q?FOT?= Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 13:14:16 +0000 FILETIME=[2C9F83C0:01CF9854] Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Small_Bore_Racers?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Just thinkinb& back in the 90bs in my neck of the woods there use to be full grids of Sprites and Midgets racing. I cannot remember the last time I saw a Bugeye on track. Seemed like they were coming out of the woodwork. I hardly ever see them any more. At Mid-Ohio last weekend there were two midgets, that was it. Where the heck did they all disappear to? Marty Sent from Windows Mail _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5ABD2580A3D for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 07:37:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A97272580877 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 07:37:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id NdHZ1o00917dt5G5DddJN2; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 13:37:18 +0000 Received: from CraigHP ([68.33.54.73]) by omta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id NddJ1o0041amW3o3ZddJgC; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 13:37:18 +0000 From: "Craig Wensley" To: "'marty'" , "'FOT'" References: Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 09:37:17 -0400 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQE70tcn8XyVaZ2qDcu5zuY3W9WjBJy5BMiQ s=q20140121; t=1404567438; bh=pdwAxQw63MI4JARMZtc3EW8jLnKhfaxfuqz7maKxlv8=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=bZZmcvqMeCp4vEZpvBX8/NKjd+ypZ97q2F/vjkcSo7vyEs+tnKrML07c9drJQB+0I 8ulthz4xrgCBC3gpGCJnNbAJ04aJ8Ye37fe5L2eidkEvmSdSkztqJuykbljXSpo+lq fpfN6ahNW9fS8IzwheyOzb+VSaTms0o1YbABnAq3kbLd8hoMZThh/MtAZsacLxIDda sjf9UTlg7x02vJvAtEbLy2/Jq8BHr35SR0HUC/93+DGkyIHPaENDdicTHXntdjwHkl kHajgjB67rVPWpSX9pvBrSCkMb9YbuTihChGl5M+JqvFd9iTG0f08facMjp3KieykW Bl2apOF5hJ/ww== Subject: Re: [Fot] Small Bore Racers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Marty that's a dam good question. I thank there are 2 or 3 sprites and midgets in my area and maybe one bugeye. They didn't turn to rust just too well maintained. Are they all 1275 now with the new rules? Craig -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of marty Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 9:14 AM To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Small Bore Racers Just thinkinb& back in the 90bs in my neck of the woods there use to be full grids of Sprites and Midgets racing. I cannot remember the last time I saw a Bugeye on track. Seemed like they were coming out of the woodwork. I hardly ever see them any more. At Mid-Ohio last weekend there were two midgets, that was it. Where the heck did they all disappear to? Marty Sent from Windows Mail _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/wensley_tr@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4DA2580459 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 07:39:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f42.google.com (mail-qa0-f42.google.com [209.85.216.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C7E25802F0 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 07:38:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id dc16so2103332qab.15 for ; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 06:38:50 -0700 (PDT) h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=d8zj4dbmpdryVm4DHFi67SvaVprtvKPbHDYjzxA4qg0=; b=e1/arOHiXk6W1AMtiLe0OoqlSKSgkNpzUNaKn45W/FjvKjME6fOXUlQmoldlwQGNoq HJoIjfCz9aRuneum8ygjv+P+ObgwuuwnB/VquJp0xu9WhNsjPu1YNrVCn1Zd+OE2bqOm ze3m7+SIno2jZ01fxR+yJtHbRmM8DwVHHqQEb3gAu9/mYvSLQ30LeA74yMFBhyOsSRt+ iusY9CbmHrwKaqCoed+4GuMaPeXnOfudEm+ABIGw+Rtb5/3ce23myehW8kczLlVMsScz ceEY+ztkRvJixuI2qLrA9GaPYdZP17c/1SAX/aKUt7attrwoxuJsDDpY+OQjeqQ72pQL B41A== 96mr27140596qgr.11.1404567530617; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 06:38:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Quad3400 (cpe-67-248-12-130.nycap.res.rr.com. [67.248.12.130]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id t75sm22438071qga.16.2014.07.05.06.38.48 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 05 Jul 2014 06:38:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "Clark W. Nicholls" To: "'marty'" , "'FOT'" References: Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 09:38:45 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac+YVEBFCGxO05ZHQg2UloA1MquqxQAAT/pw Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Small Bore Racers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO I suspect it is not economical racing anymore. With the SCCA Miatas in great numbers in 5 or 6 classes which you can run in multiple classes at the same event by simply changing tires... Every now and again we see a bugeye at a vintage event. John Travers for instance... He's been racing them since they were at the showroom, possibly! Spridgets run vintage too, VRG for instance. Sadly some of those drivers are like Kamikazes to the older cars. Search YouTube for "Filangeri yikes". Clark Clark W. Nicholls 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) www.botchagaloop.net for old racing photos ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7802 - Release Date: 07/05/14 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7BD258456E for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 08:01:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d01.mx.aol.com (omr-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.252.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4B042580877 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 08:00:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mce02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mce02.mx.aol.com [172.29.27.208]) by omr-d01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 787787000008C; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 10:00:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dgd002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dgd002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.229.197]) by mtaomg-mce02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 3A49E38000083; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 10:00:16 -0400 (EDT) References: To: trmarty@hotmail.com, fot@autox.team.net From: fubog1 Received: from 98.77.30.10 by webmail-d214.sysops.aol.com (149.174.188.106) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 05 Jul 2014 10:00:15 -0400 Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 10:00:16 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1404568816; bh=LV5NnY3zETJmsrVRJH033oveHbLRIWlNe2rcZaJz6K0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=C7a+cltun2EjyNXq3Q3BJXhdr7fu+4GPlHg712XTJB2NUQ/5eWZIlwwEa+Uaop5fy L9Q9b/t+J/aPDwJU9UYriEUpuLzK+NZt9SSkF60BNE2whKW7hpqTOUPk/GpTjAhFdB GEcdBogmXBtDy0Ndz2blYtXLJ3XgIfnaZuoPM5Nc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d1bd053b804f05b2c Subject: Re: [Fot] Small Bore Racers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Just a few observations based on my involvement in Brit cars & Club racing for decades, not in any particular order- 1- economy, small-bore Brit car racers are generally on the lower steps of the economic ladder. 2- used parts availability, the junkyard spares supply is about dried up. 3- cost of quality race parts, what might be OK $$ for E-type or porker 911 racers is out of sight for the average little Brit car budget. 4- maintenance demands & requirements of Brit iron vs jap, no explanation necessary, there is no comparison.. 5- the cost to be competitive. Racing is racing, the nature of it is to do improvements necessary to win races. As the rules loosen up, more development & $$ is necessary to keep up, and not everyone has the $$ to do so. 6- age group. Those of us who can directly relate to these cars, and grew up with them, are getting old... and the younger guys, and gals, are naturally more into the modern stuff they grew up with. Glen -----Original Message----- From: marty To: FOT Sent: Sat, Jul 5, 2014 9:22 am Subject: [Fot] Small Bore Racers Just thinkinb& back in the 90bs in my neck of the woods there use to be full grids of Sprites and Midgets racing. I cannot remember the last time I saw a Bugeye on track. Seemed like they were coming out of the woodwork. I hardly ever see them any more. At Mid-Ohio last weekend there were two midgets, that was it. Where the heck did they all disappear to? Marty Sent from Windows Mail _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEDBF258450F for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 08:55:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from COL004-OMC2S18.hotmail.com (col004-omc2s18.hotmail.com [65.55.34.92]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D6382580A7E for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 08:55:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from COL130-DS15 ([65.55.34.73]) by COL004-OMC2S18.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Sat, 5 Jul 2014 07:55:31 -0700 From: "Terry Stetler" To: "FOT" References: Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 10:55:32 -0400 Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 10:55:32 -0400 FILETIME=[2B1B68E0:01CF9861] Subject: Re: [Fot] Small Bore Racers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO As has been said, the Miata is what's needed to win in SCCA, and that is the way SCCA wants it. The Club cannot make money from companies that no longer exist. (Standard Triumph, BMC, BLMC, JRT). Like all automotive competition endeavours, new, young, competitors are needed to keep the membership roles full and also the grids. Younger members want to drive modern, lower cost/maintenance cars. Fiddling with grenade motor Frog Eye Sprites and Spitfires is not in their play book. They want a car they can flog all season and concentrate on driving it, not rebuilding it every other race to be competitive at the National level. Which bring us to the other issue with the cars that we like. Spares. There is not an infinite number of usable engine blocks out there for any of the cars we love. Ask anyone competing with a an FWB Climax engined car. While certainly there are many more Spits, Sprites, MGBs and TRs, the number of parts gets smaller every year. This makes them more expensive. There is no magic to this equation. Also look at it from the vintage racer's perspective. To build a front of the grid Spitfire will cost every bit as much as a TR3 through 6 car. Most guys will choose the faster car. It's human nature. Terry Stetler _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 875DC25845E9 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 10:25:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56522580BA2 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 10:23:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aaj01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aaj01.mx.aol.com [172.27.3.207]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id CB6527000008E for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 12:23:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mld002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mld002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.122.80]) by mtaomg-aaj01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id A88D338000081 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 12:23:13 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net From: billdentin@aol.com Received: from 70.194.142.189 by webmail-va023.sysops.aol.com (149.174.108.45) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 05 Jul 2014 12:23:13 -0400 Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 12:23:13 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1404577393; bh=dV3NHiEMANYCnFcp4Vd99UjvG2evjsI7LE1lMVbVX30=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=R9iDV44HUfWX421t7FuYOkSgD5aWuxSyTS0RcBfxqrkx7xj9wmcONbW5GfLXoWm1H jsU6N1ckS/hAz6Pi+mfLj1A34k5eonqnSPqk3zYCu3gWwf4BJEiLoRQ2t0pluVUAAl Lw2rkXvEJvokWw3VLCxwyx3yB8Rnjcooxk560noQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b03cf53b826716d6f Subject: [Fot] Miata Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Terry Stetler said... <<<< As has been said, the Miata is what's needed to win in SCCA, and that is the way SCCA wants it. >>>> Terry, et al... I'll never forget the first time a MIATA club showed up at a vintage event at Road America many years ago. There was no group for them to race in, so they were there just to watch and 'tour' the track. VSCDA was glad to have them for the 'touring dollars' to help pay expenses. I remember making a smug, sarcastic comment to one of them similar to, "How do you like driving that 'Jap Lotus'?" With out taking a breath the guy came back with, "It's pretty much like driving your Triumph, except I don't have to work on mine." I bit my tongue and nodded. The MIATA explosion as a race car is impressive and very good for road racing. Road racing needs good things these days. I also remember the first time I raced the Autobahn Country Club circuit near Joliet, Illinois. Their track coach was a well known MIATA racer and a hell of a good coach. He was commenting on how successful MIATA was as a race car and how many there were. He said very quickly there were hundreds and hundreds. He also said, that while he was not sure, he thought there was even at least one 'legal MIATA race car'. He heard it was down in New Mexico, but the guy did not race much anymore because he was not competitive. Why am I not surprised? Bill Dentinger . _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A422584618 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 11:02:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m08.mx.aol.com (omr-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.222.129]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD9C25800CF for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 11:02:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aaj01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aaj01.mx.aol.com [172.27.3.207]) by omr-m08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E7DA3700000A5; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 13:02:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dtd005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dtd005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.163.145]) by mtaomg-aaj01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id BFB0A38000085; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 13:02:49 -0400 (EDT) References: To: tlizzard@msn.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Bruce Lapierre Received: from 173.188.56.72 by webmail-d259.sysops.aol.com (205.188.17.43) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 05 Jul 2014 13:02:49 -0400 Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 13:02:49 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1404579769; bh=18pQGvkmzds2SaXP+E7oMabqLfOuzVFK6ewYkrwWeFk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=N6yTUzUGEu/E1H2qNzXbVpCjDMvaQMhCG7Zl0gLQrgkRlj4c6+9QZLSmBWyu0n79L MITAQc6Ceg0S8TpB1TxTMq5tFxxvvGJjC1uriu/AAqzBZz0z6b4/7Mv1AqnTsDYw6z LjBq+DY5sz9aKcZUNVWCj8KlaA5urMeLU68hX/LA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b03cf53b82fb90044 Subject: Re: [Fot] Small Bore Racers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Great dissertation - sad but true. My TR2 is still a great street ride -----Original Message----- From: Terry Stetler To: FOT Sent: Sat, Jul 5, 2014 10:55 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Small Bore Racers As has been said, the Miata is what's needed to win in SCCA, and that is the way SCCA wants it. The Club cannot make money from companies that no longer exist. (Standard Triumph, BMC, BLMC, JRT). Like all automotive competition endeavours, new, young, competitors are needed to keep the membership roles full and also the grids. Younger members want to drive modern, lower cost/maintenance cars. Fiddling with grenade motor Frog Eye Sprites and Spitfires is not in their play book. They want a car they can flog all season and concentrate on driving it, not rebuilding it every other race to be competitive at the National level. Which bring us to the other issue with the cars that we like. Spares. There is not an infinite number of usable engine blocks out there for any of the cars we love. Ask anyone competing with a an FWB Climax engined car. While certainly there are many more Spits, Sprites, MGBs and TRs, the number of parts gets smaller every year. This makes them more expensive. There is no magic to this equation. Also look at it from the vintage racer's perspective. To build a front of the grid Spitfire will cost every bit as much as a TR3 through 6 car. Most guys will choose the faster car. It's human nature. Terry Stetler _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C04525846FB for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 12:27:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo203.cox.net (fed1rmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC4C2584598 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 12:23:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo305 ([68.230.241.173]) by fed1rmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20140705182315.DPPE28942.fed1rmfepo203.cox.net@fed1rmimpo305> for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 14:23:15 -0400 Received: from Bedroom ([68.226.121.76]) by fed1rmimpo305 with cox id NiPF1o0021f04Vw01iPFTu; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 14:23:15 -0400 a=7SSsm+IB0xObbcIu0fZJIw==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=edzDfP_CafhRA0NXUXAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=g1g5Cc-dTQNLuiHL:21 a=fRfDPRY5V55n_KoP:21 a=7SSsm+IB0xObbcIu0fZJIw==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: "'Terry Stetler'" , "'FOT'" References: Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 11:24:08 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac+YYTjYO3TeKbKJTLSJ68pUaymGAgAHLWxg Subject: Re: [Fot] Small Bore Racers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO You said "CLUB". SCCA hasn't been a club since corporate interests took over in the early 2000's. Their interests are only in making money. If that means eliminating some cars as they pare down classes, so be it. This applies both to road racing as well as autocross. That is precisely why I stopped competing in SCCA sanctioned events in 2004. Joe C. -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Terry Stetler Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 7:56 AM To: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Small Bore Racers As has been said, the Miata is what's needed to win in SCCA, and that is the way SCCA wants it. The Club cannot make money from companies that no longer exist. (Standard Triumph, BMC, BLMC, JRT). Like all automotive competition endeavours, new, young, competitors are needed to keep the membership roles full and also the grids. Younger members want to drive modern, lower cost/maintenance cars. Fiddling with grenade motor Frog Eye Sprites and Spitfires is not in their play book. They want a car they can flog all season and concentrate on driving it, not rebuilding it every other race to be competitive at the National level. Which bring us to the other issue with the cars that we like. Spares. There is not an infinite number of usable engine blocks out there for any of the cars we love. Ask anyone competing with a an FWB Climax engined car. While certainly there are many more Spits, Sprites, MGBs and TRs, the number of parts gets smaller every year. This makes them more expensive. There is no magic to this equation. Also look at it from the vintage racer's perspective. To build a front of the grid Spitfire will cost every bit as much as a TR3 through 6 car. Most guys will choose the faster car. It's human nature. Terry Stetler _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608502584722 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 12:34:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96B712580B51 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 12:34:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [68.203.13.233] ([68.203.13.233:54890] helo=[192.168.2.14]) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 47/57-28754-74548B35; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 18:34:47 +0000 References: <44E4812F-ADF0-468F-B18C-FB5B291F55A8@gdhs.com> <260160.98603.bm@smtp222.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: Bob Kramer Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 13:34:48 -0500 To: "" Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Spitfire oversized alternator pulley/water pump pulley Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO I've always wondered why the wet liner harmonic balancer kit doesn't have an option for a bigger pulley. A large percentage go on race cars anyway. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2014, at 7:21 PM, wrote: > > Sent from Windows Mail > > > > > > From: rick.parent@att.net > Sent: bThursdayb, bJulyb b3b, b2014 b1b:b23b bPM > To: fot@autox.team.net > > > > > > I just checked our 302 Trans-am motor, 2006 Fusion Cup car and the Spit crank to water pump ratio and all 3 are between 64-68% under driven. I run the Spit with a block off plate in the thermostat housing with a 3/4 hole in it. We have a hard time getting the water to 180 and that's on a hot day. I donbt see any reason to remove vanes from the water pump, plus there are only 4 of them. We run 68% under drive on the Denso mini alternator. > > > > > Hope this helps > > > > > > > Sent from Windows Mail > > > > > > From: John Hasty > Sent: bWednesdayb, bJulyb b2b, b2014 b7b:b35b bPM > To: Jerry Poole > Cc: fot@autox.team.net > > > > > > Seems like I recall that Don Marshall worked all this out on his Spit. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 2, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Jerry Poole wrote: >> >> Could anyone on the forum please direct me to a source for oversized >> pulleys for a Denso alternator and a stock 1500 water pump? Does >> anyone remove any of the vanes from the stock 1500cc water pump to >> prevent cavitation or slow down the water flow? This will be used on >> a vintage race car. Appreciate any insight and information and >> thanks. Jerry >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rick.parent@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413122584827 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 12:42:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d04.mx.aol.com (omr-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.201]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F63325807A2 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 12:36:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mbb01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mbb01.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.111]) by omr-d04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6494E7000008F; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 14:36:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mld002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mld002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.122.80]) by mtaomg-mbb01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id CCB0038000083; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 14:36:43 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 14:36:43 -0400 (EDT) To: spitlist@cox.net, tlizzard@msn.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1404585404; bh=j7hXO6Dzf6/0oeK5s66HlCmKaARbAfIj/Av7Q42G3QM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jdoaslqbIDvpUvK+gSjbLPiTCmymijxhbgwf1CHNLeH3PWFiOCH+iLJSvphHjkOdq iBgObseLqhy7qzGpyOzIYskRNwB75724M/NZaMKV+8vQft2PRI3GTcRwpGHVqqpbzw fHquqvFGaQH146ZzMGXLWUU9viQ08ugjb4jBY8JU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afe6f53b845bb0532 Subject: Re: [Fot] Small Bore Racers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO In a message dated 07/05/2014 1:27:30 PM Central Daylight Time, spitlist@cox.net writes: > You said "CLUB". SCCA hasn't been a club since corporate interests took > over in the early 2000's. Their interests are only in making money. If > that means eliminating some cars as they pare down classes, so be it. > This > applies both to road racing as well as autocross. That is precisely why I > stopped competing in SCCA sanctioned events in 2004. > The current issue of Vintage Motorsport is excellent, and includes a feature article: My Favorite Race: BOB TULLIUS 1967 Daytona 300 Trans-Am. In it he gives SCCA good marks for amateur racing, but suggests they don't have a clue relative to professional racing. Not the first time I heard that. Among lots of other stuff, the issue has a good exclusive Steve McQueen interview, one remembering Sir Jack Brabham, and one about the restoration of Donald Campbell's Blue Bird LSR. Maybe old guys just become readers, but this is all Good Stuff to me. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E032584734 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 12:49:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm14-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm14-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.252]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B49C2584713 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 12:49:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.176] by nm14.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jul 2014 18:49:20 -0000 Received: from [67.195.23.145] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jul 2014 18:49:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp117.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jul 2014 18:49:20 -0000 s=s1024; t=1404586160; bh=/wJMWwrNIrLmz4LjoJceYBBahriC70FaWfdMCoi+l9o=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Content-Language:Thread-Index; b=DL/c/qNR/PoUxADAb9rqgdpN41sLPW1Ti/90/GCA9JOKdbbYjHgizmkDcCSuiAcHozL4S8ZSxVz1YU9gYL22ohPGlvhZ5efxreFx9YsE5jDZ52dBWj1lF+NWW3pZnM+71RmMbjHIK328z2qaJqCE9A9bZylMd4PPYnMSWFJuaz0= 1cL0Szjjhz_YX_AIy73KmvEzRS87PJT7iLHrlZY8g39MNXXvLIJhQrsCQf6v _.I6kbwm9EUH03Sm0qWPY2vmVcyj9HfaKKk1EZMvchUCRbU0Y9si9vUdywjZ ut4GKRv7R1KhPSHbq8WZWNnar.ggrI9H6GXRdOtFPPKs4hBkCBVHhsvH7hvu CteYsC.MoKDHnAOJgHaUHpsc0e0gIBGVgGLn7HAyu1LCM85jbguB2JXTE_tN jwfafl5wN6gqa98yNUjjTkcxkYqY6VIYOBFJbuPF1LjcA7_n2oqasMi8os7R zE44wkJ5arvEuOT8Lxr3ZYaluJ3KtJnA2bmdsNkSIdYcOEXrT8RWdU19KgPh FlAhAydgt7XtuP24J7O9lMphkuq9aIB.t4zoOlEvpAYSse0zCoa1EOOrdwtn kPVY_k8g4z8aOruLncbO4xOMgqusfBoR8qjdYyJEpAPd71sZrEQX_lB1YbjT eJ6k8RUxpkfbSzZ2.Ge9_Rn78oRDLL9C6a9Ix7Ub.3jnkHwUqZwxGgjjBr3r GKgNk1oVAepgh7tTEgdmyVrS_entWkObrW4UGNTmbcdDj0HxLkxI- [67.195.15.66]) by smtp117.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 05 Jul 2014 18:49:19 +0000 UTC From: "Richard Taylor" To: "'Terry Stetler'" , "'FOT'" References: Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 14:49:11 -0400 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQE70tcn8XyVaZ2qDcu5zuY3W9WjBAHmLRconKnvbWA= Subject: Re: [Fot] Small Bore Racers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Terry, Very nicely thought-out analysis. Reality so unvarnished is greatly appreciated and should never be denigrated. And your argument is unassailable until it gets to the conclusion of choice of vehicle. I submit that for many of us, it's still quite agreeable to enjoy the nostalgia-coated vintage-myth of old sports car racing. I also question the premise that most of us would trade our hoary Limey-iron for a faster, more dependable, cheaper, rice burners that can't even mark their own damn parking spot. If it's all about speed and derring-do, skydiving is still a cheaper alternative. Richard Taylor TR-4 #196 -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Terry Stetler Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:56 AM To: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Small Bore Racers As has been said, the Miata is what's needed to win in SCCA, and that is the way SCCA wants it. The Club cannot make money from companies that no longer exist. (Standard Triumph, BMC, BLMC, JRT). Like all automotive competition endeavours, new, young, competitors are needed to keep the membership roles full and also the grids. Younger members want to drive modern, lower cost/maintenance cars. Fiddling with grenade motor Frog Eye Sprites and Spitfires is not in their play book. They want a car they can flog all season and concentrate on driving it, not rebuilding it every other race to be competitive at the National level. Which bring us to the other issue with the cars that we like. Spares. There is not an infinite number of usable engine blocks out there for any of the cars we love. Ask anyone competing with a an FWB Climax engined car. While certainly there are many more Spits, Sprites, MGBs and TRs, the number of parts gets smaller every year. This makes them more expensive. There is no magic to this equation. Also look at it from the vintage racer's perspective. To build a front of the grid Spitfire will cost every bit as much as a TR3 through 6 car. Most guys will choose the faster car. It's human nature. Terry Stetler _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tarch@bellsouth.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E15258475A for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 13:04:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.23.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 274E62584734 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 13:04:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 14820 invoked by uid 0); 5 Jul 2014 19:04:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by gproxy4.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 5 Jul 2014 19:04:34 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw2 with id Nj4T1o0061NzpT901j4Wwz; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 13:04:33 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=q2BrG8ZyjZkA:10 a=yKqyAkVeGwwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=_y01thpdDmnw4ishUPcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=DSkboT_a6bcA:10 a=TrfGmV-NwuUA:10 a=xQtvGnnTUokA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=50678 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1X3VG8-00018J-1d; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 13:04:28 -0600 Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2014 14:04:21 -0500 To: Bob Kramer , "" From: Tony Drews References: <44E4812F-ADF0-468F-B18C-FB5B291F55A8@gdhs.com> <260160.98603.bm@smtp222.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <89C132F5-F94B-4E2C-AE3D-5337718F2286@austin.rr.com> {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Spitfire oversized alternator pulley/water pump pulley Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO You'd want a smaller pulley on the crank... The ATI balancer has a much smaller pulley than the Moss one. Tony Drews At 01:34 PM 7/5/2014, Bob Kramer wrote: >I've always wondered why the wet liner harmonic balancer kit doesn't have an >option for a bigger pulley. A large percentage go on race cars anyway. > >Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61AE3258471A for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 13:27:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp3.pacifier.net (smtp3.pacifier.net [64.255.237.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCA02584598 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 13:22:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.141.120.120] (mobile-166-137-218-243.mycingular.net [166.137.218.243]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.pacifier.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3BC0938F7E; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 12:22:30 -0700 (PDT) References: <002101cf9881$cff58150$6fe083f0$@bellsouth.net> From: "J. Wagner" Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 12:22:28 -0700 To: Richard Taylor Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Small Bore Racers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Richard... I think he was speaking of the next generation... What interests them. Let's face it, there aren't a hell of a lot of young folk, say born in the 80's or 90's, attending Triumph car club meetings... And I don't know about other parts of the country... But driving a TR4A in the late 70's and 80's drew interest wherever I went... Now I could be filling up at a gas station and two buses of teens going on an outing, stopping to raid the convenience store and hit the restrooms, wouldn't even give my car a second look, yet alone ask me about it. They're not interested. Now let's talk about vintage versus newish... There aren't machine shops everywhere you look anymore and the prices for work have gone up astronomically... Simple supply and demand theory! Just like the supply and demand issues hitting the used parts stream, as discussed. Young folk want to bolt performance onto a motor and tinker with mix and timing with a computer, etc. They're not into blowing through old motors, experimenting through trial and error with clearances, gasket materials, etc. etc. They'd rather hit a Pick-A-Part and spend $40 for a used quarter panel than even begin to consider the options facing TR enthusiasts! That's not to say there aren't a few kids out there brought up right and with proper vintage car taste, : ), but they are few and far between. Most people here are racing cars from their youth; is it any surprise that today's late teens and 20 to 30 somethings want to race cars from their time! --Justin > On Jul 5, 2014, at 11:49 AM, "Richard Taylor" wrote: > > Terry, > > Very nicely thought-out analysis. > > Reality so unvarnished is greatly appreciated and should never be > denigrated. And your argument is unassailable until it gets to the > conclusion of choice of vehicle. > > I submit that for many of us, it's still quite agreeable to enjoy the > nostalgia-coated vintage-myth of old sports car racing. > > I also question the premise that most of us would trade our hoary Limey-iron > for a faster, more dependable, cheaper, rice burners that can't even mark > their own damn parking spot. If it's all about speed and derring-do, > skydiving is still a cheaper alternative. > > Richard Taylor > TR-4 #196 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Terry Stetler > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:56 AM > To: FOT > Subject: Re: [Fot] Small Bore Racers > > As has been said, the Miata is what's needed to win in SCCA, and that is the > way SCCA wants it. > > > > The Club cannot make money from companies that no longer exist. (Standard > Triumph, BMC, BLMC, JRT). > > > > Like all automotive competition endeavours, new, young, competitors are > needed to keep the membership roles full and also the grids. > > Younger members want to drive modern, lower cost/maintenance cars. Fiddling > with grenade motor Frog Eye Sprites and Spitfires is not in their play book. > > They want a car they can flog all season and concentrate on driving it, not > rebuilding it every other race to be competitive at the National level. > > > > Which bring us to the other issue with the cars that we like. Spares. > > > > There is not an infinite number of usable engine blocks out there for any of > the cars we love. Ask anyone competing with a an FWB Climax engined car. > > While certainly there are many more Spits, Sprites, MGBs and TRs, the number > of parts gets smaller every year. This makes them more expensive. > > > > There is no magic to this equation. > > > > Also look at it from the vintage racer's perspective. To build a front of > the grid Spitfire will cost every bit as much as a TR3 through 6 car. > > Most guys will choose the faster car. > > > > It's human nature. > > > > > > Terry Stetler > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tarch@bellsouth.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jmwagner@greenheart.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D32425848FE for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 14:20:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm48.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm48.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.120.55]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C342580570 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 14:20:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm48.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jul 2014 20:20:36 -0000 Received: from [98.138.100.114] by nm48.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jul 2014 20:17:33 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.165] by tm105.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jul 2014 20:17:33 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.125] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jul 2014 20:17:33 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1001.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jul 2014 20:17:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 79619 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Jul 2014 20:17:32 -0000 s=s1024; t=1404591452; bh=kYI6jasCIT93RpqaRIJfCTiSkL+VbmotqrZiEMk1EDc=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ALLw0uR3xDrb5BVDsPA0yjy25TrfdR1ua8XURErnpZR2DyZMhctttLKEwGHIYtNkqhk1zY9UefwDBJHs4kR4ZplnkOvaIy+aQv30yOUpwwlxZ1NjBqb+Bxf8r0BPI1hWZVY58G6UfAjUXE8E13f3ARU/vyAdy4Zv5OM1nOHvJcg= ZZH7q9byq0rwbdqe2OnwAea8PQejBJbwK1PDUIcD0sRuDHuOhG.ewnJhe1f9 KxgfF48rex0L_PQRROmOZiHaahDO6uSO0nBT2QY_rx36PGi3EtT1XG78IEoU MZy2BObXXsaSAGASo01OMQ2QU8Nd83Dn5ybchQrkNMLeDp5PyD0tp6GI_Cwt 7aOBWPwpifxpYYZgY2vbqTWM8EWbYYECzEetck5w22r_A1aNWqmQwT0YiNgq cQp3LlE8VjIMr5YeYSsEKg5sx1lYLlhDdfcuGRKN0GB9hAglD6HYO2Eu6GNr P1KDcN7MpIz6oKTNDAZt.SmnSs1.BtN7DOWWuBXT.BlWF5_d3YH.znvlSi_3 xX4sQqAP3p_8N4g8RzwR9XOHJBXKZv8cYyRS_DwKi7Ga1YPAsrIRptN.ikEa KbVSeZHZYEy4tjj0qDkTnpta1ONVwA2r0BV8KS2NXiYLHbwoVLEnRG5M6bNp DrYjyjSdUsYBQB6YEq.PCGugq2i9WSMFTiOgK6ORo2xZIkjZ3PAgTez_8z0x 3xqpzHyrmhjJSPjbb4uDPWSw0uVKtNtowDxagZ7rZ317L4uoE.zMnaFumYwS f9Gh6K6NOWcan.MMFJHgrulQt4lFZFe0jRg-- Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web184705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 13:17:32 PDT VGhleSd2ZSBhbGwgY29tZSBkb3duIHRvIENWQVIuCi1FZC0gCgoKT24gU2F0dXJkYXksIEp1bHkgNSwgMjAxNCAyOjI3IFBNLCBKLiBXYWduZXIgPGptd2FnbmVyQGdyZWVuaGVhcnQuY29tPiB3cm90ZToKICAKCgpSaWNoYXJkLi4uIEkgdGhpbmsgaGUgd2FzIHNwZWFraW5nIG9mIHRoZSBuZXh0IGdlbmVyYXRpb24uLi7CoCBXaGF0IGludGVyZXN0cwp0aGVtLgoKTGV0J3MgZmFjZSBpdCwgdGhlcmUgYXJlbid0IGEgaGVsbCBvZiBhIGxvdCBvZiB5b3VuZyBmb2xrLCBzYXkgYm9ybiBpbiB0aGUKODAncyBvciABMAEBAQE- References: <002101cf9881$cff58150$6fe083f0$@bellsouth.net> <566B1DED-5F30-45E0-B0BD-1D665871C145@greenheart.com> Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 13:17:32 -0700 From: EDWARD BARNARD To: "J. Wagner" , Richard Taylor Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Small Bore Racers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO They've all come down to CVAR. -Ed- On Saturday, July 5, 2014 2:27 PM, J. Wagner wrote: Richard... I think he was speaking of the next generation... What interests them. Let's face it, there aren't a hell of a lot of young folk, say born in the 80's or 90's, attending Triumph car club meetings... And I don't know about other parts of the country... But driving a TR4A in the late 70's and 80's drew interest wherever I went... Now I could be filling up at a gas station and two buses of teens going on an outing, stopping to raid the convenience store and hit the restrooms, wouldn't even give my car a second look, yet alone ask me about it. They're not interested. Now let's talk about vintage versus newish... There aren't machine shops everywhere you look anymore and the prices for work have gone up astronomically... Simple supply and demand theory! Just like the supply and demand issues hitting the used parts stream, as discussed. Young folk want to bolt performance onto a motor and tinker with mix and timing with a computer, etc. They're not into blowing through old motors, experimenting through trial and error with clearances, gasket materials, etc. etc. They'd rather hit a Pick-A-Part and spend $40 for a used quarter panel than even begin to consider the options facing TR enthusiasts! That's not to say there aren't a few kids out there brought up right and with proper vintage car taste, : ), but they are few and far between. Most people here are racing cars from their youth; is it any surprise that today's late teens and 20 to 30 somethings want to race cars from their time! --Justin > On Jul 5, 2014, at 11:49 AM, "Richard Taylor" wrote: > > Terry, > > Very nicely thought-out analysis. > > Reality so unvarnished is greatly appreciated and should never be > denigrated. And your argument is unassailable until it gets to the > conclusion of choice of vehicle. > > I submit that for many of us, it's still quite agreeable to enjoy the > nostalgia-coated vintage-myth of old sports car racing. > > I also question the premise that most of us would trade our hoary Limey-iron > for a faster, more dependable, cheaper, rice burners that can't even mark > their own damn parking spot. If it's all about speed and derring-do, > skydiving is still a cheaper alternative. > > Richard Taylor > TR-4 #196 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Terry Stetler > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:56 AM > To: FOT > Subject: Re: [Fot] Small Bore Racers > > As has been said, the Miata is what's needed to win in SCCA, and that is the > way SCCA wants it. > > > > The Club cannot make money from companies that no longer exist. (Standard > Triumph, BMC, BLMC, JRT). > > > > Like all automotive competition endeavours, new, young, competitors are > needed to keep the membership roles full and also the grids. > > Younger members want to drive modern, lower cost/maintenance cars. Fiddling > with grenade motor Frog Eye Sprites and Spitfires is not in their play book. > > They want a car they can flog all season and concentrate on driving it, not > rebuilding it every other race to be competitive at the National level. > > > > Which bring us to the other issue with the cars that we like. Spares. > > > > There is not an infinite number of usable engine blocks out there for any of > the cars we love. Ask anyone competing with a an FWB Climax engined car. > > While certainly there are many more Spits, Sprites, MGBs and TRs, the number > of parts gets smaller every year. This makes them more expensive. > > > > There is no magic to this equation. > > > > Also look at it from the vintage racer's perspective. To build a front of > the grid Spitfire will cost every bit as much as a TR3 through 6 car. > > Most guys will choose the faster car. > > > > It's human nature. > > > > > > Terry Stetler > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tarch@bellsouth.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jmwagner@greenheart.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 986012580470 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 14:22:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FABC2580470 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 14:22:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.73]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id NkHB1o0041afHeLA3kNiVK; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 20:22:42 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([71.196.165.168]) by omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id NkNg1o00D3eKESF8dkNhl1; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 20:22:42 +0000 From: Bud R Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 14:22:40 -0600 References: To: Jerry Poole s=q20140121; t=1404591762; bh=X+J1u2CfN1kqOZVOCuBxt++T/WNZrxLlJZhtemRaDoM=; h=Received:Received:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From:Date: Message-Id:To; b=kehD0Lv354FJRr9LUOPfD6QY8ei3spyZvTzAD53xCxqKX5ccZQk039h4EYLy6F4+q VHoQlDhAxA2n/jvcD2sFbPH374Xrke42a4wlW5X0xZKtcWhLkc8AYumDr+46J8VKyf zrZZwr62ARBbKJ7WxCcUu6EmFjWZ34ciBOI3yXSv4aHOTWoNjZcpq2yHDnE1yTlsjU bRk1K+Q+PQHj+/JBMWjo+vaOrDxjVaRtegE7ldatNlc05dsfELli1a10nTjUC9PxnR JP7nvyv+yt64mT7dFW7kcUemNB0sfi2PytGyTayNa1LyczPM0kG+5pgts1upcOoxmy xFd6xJtOKrLXQ== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire oversized alternator pulley/water pump pulley Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO JEGS has an oversized alternator pulley. Its kind of hard to find in the catalog and website categories so search their website for it. Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Jul 2, 2014, at 5:14 PM, Jerry Poole wrote: > Could anyone on the forum please direct me to a source for oversized > pulleys for a Denso alternator and a stock 1500 water pump? Does > anyone remove any of the vanes from the stock 1500cc water pump to > prevent cavitation or slow down the water flow? This will be used on > a vintage race car. Appreciate any insight and information and > thanks. Jerry > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9599D2584873 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 15:13:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE5892584720 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 15:13:45 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge01 smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [107.107.185.112] ([107.107.185.112:45342] helo=[10.149.66.198]) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 5B/04-02696-49A68B35; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 21:13:56 +0000 From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 16:13:54 -0500 To: "" Subject: [Fot] Small one wire alt for TR3/4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO What's the recommendation for small alternators for the tractor motors? Time to get rid of the boat anchor I have on mine. Thanks Greg _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:36 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1E8B258472A for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 16:35:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B0A2584614 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 16:35:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [75.86.187.21] ([75.86.187.21:57779] helo=Steve) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 31/53-04420-2AD78B35; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 22:35:14 +0000 From: "Steve Yott" To: "'Greg And Alison Blake'" , References: Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 17:35:12 -0500 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQGRscbJgHmIO15gsmWuSvwSgJXWS5wN3btA Subject: Re: [Fot] Small one wire alt for TR3/4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO I have been using the Denso alternators for a Kubota tractor... They work great, are very small and deliver 40 amps. They take a bit of small fabrication to mount and adapting a proper sized pulley. Google 1-2478-01ND and you should find a number of sources. Steve Yott -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg And Alison Blake Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 4:14 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Small one wire alt for TR3/4 What's the recommendation for small alternators for the tractor motors? Time to get rid of the boat anchor I have on mine. Thanks Greg _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:36 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29CD225848ED for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 19:02:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f52.google.com (mail-oa0-f52.google.com [209.85.219.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB042580BC2 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 19:01:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id j17so3024979oag.25 for ; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 18:01:17 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=hKm0rOe01JTnOZczYldmrhTrOHWXNIOHya6wOlTvujI=; b=pNCYIzED0bmJqzW2c582DM6ZJMpsJyCebnFookBU54+gbx8fKGjDCTooZ8m+dh7IRg XxGVDfbBg2hC/eeb7XwMivERCRSZiHZij0Nsz8mISDnv7WXWB8jTIS1vnWnMk2J3CSNQ OAIRO5cjy6rBZxx0Jrc6wnPoifl9dFJhvsj+ZWlMzHv6g+Mv//lspmWY2a4bOkCo2rie 6YSzHygUyuDSSvXACZy3L732qk9tx0qTldCZwtIZXwLPJvASsXqtfQ++VS9kX1LidbOU sNUStXeOB/DtccBD4ok8y0PlQrh3bAY3/g1WOBITVBwtOUQB/EdHrhuPS5Q9dTFErYKM xQTg== dy2mr2516221oeb.50.1404608477844; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 18:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.7.102 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 18:01:17 -0700 (PDT) References: <000701cf98a1$629df770$27d9e650$@wi.rr.com> Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 21:01:17 -0400 From: Duncan Charlton To: Steve Yott Cc: Friends of triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Small one wire alt for TR3/4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Greg, I found a Nippon Denso forklift alternator for the TR motor on the Morgan. I think it was a 35 amp unit. I was able to alter the big hex bolt/spacer thing with a hacksaw and file to properly position the alternator's pulley. If you need the part number I chose from those available via eBay I can probably find it for you. Duncan On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Steve Yott wrote: > I have been using the Denso alternators for a Kubota tractor... They work > great, are very small and deliver 40 amps. They take a bit of small > fabrication to mount and adapting a proper sized pulley. > > Google 1-2478-01ND and you should find a number of sources. > > Steve Yott > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg And Alison > Blake > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 4:14 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Small one wire alt for TR3/4 > > What's the recommendation for small alternators for the tractor motors? > > Time to get rid of the boat anchor I have on mine. > > Thanks > > Greg > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:36 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46EEA2584885 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 19:32:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail290c9.megamailservers.com (mail464c9.megamailservers.com [69.156.243.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BAC62584749 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 19:28:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.253.81.134] (204.sub-174-237-3.myvzw.com [174.237.3.204]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail290c9.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id s661SsMq008644 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 5 Jul 2014 21:28:59 -0400 References: From: John Hasty Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 21:28:51 -0400 To: Greg And Alison Blake reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Small one wire alt for TR3/4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Greg: there is a co. In Johnson City TN who has 40 amp small units for about $75 We have used one for about 2 yrs with no problems. I'am at lake now but will send name and address when I get to office. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2014, at 5:13 PM, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: > > What's the recommendation for small alternators for the tractor motors? > > Time to get rid of the boat anchor I have on mine. > > Thanks > > Greg > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:36 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1977525848A9 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 19:33:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail301c9.megamailservers.com (mail469c9.megamailservers.com [69.156.243.209]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F0282584749 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 19:32:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.253.81.134] (204.sub-174-237-3.myvzw.com [174.237.3.204]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail301c9.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id s661WDUV025173 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 5 Jul 2014 21:32:17 -0400 References: <002101cf9881$cff58150$6fe083f0$@bellsouth.net> <566B1DED-5F30-45E0-B0BD-1D665871C145@greenheart.com> <1404591452.79533.YahooMailNeo@web184705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: John Hasty Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 21:32:10 -0400 To: EDWARD BARNARD reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Small Bore Racers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO The only "young folks" I know here in God's country are those who race with their fathers. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2014, at 4:17 PM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > > They've all come down to CVAR. > -Ed- > > > On Saturday, July 5, 2014 2:27 PM, J. > Wagner wrote: > > > > Richard... I think he was > speaking of the next generation... What interests > them. > > Let's face it, there > aren't a hell of a lot of young folk, say born in the > 80's or 90's, attending > Triumph car club meetings... And I don't know about > other parts of the > country... But driving a TR4A in the late 70's and 80's > drew interest wherever > I went... Now I could be filling up at a gas station > and two buses of teens > going on an outing, stopping to raid the convenience > store and hit the > restrooms, wouldn't even give my car a second look, yet > alone ask me about it. > They're not interested. > > Now let's talk about vintage versus newish... There > aren't machine shops > everywhere you look anymore and the prices for work have > gone up > astronomically... Simple supply and demand theory! Just like the > supply and > demand issues hitting the used parts stream, as discussed. Young > folk want to > bolt performance onto a motor and tinker with mix and timing with > a computer, > etc. They're not into blowing through old motors, experimenting > through trial _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:36 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF35258494E for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 19:38:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC1S32.hotmail.com (blu004-omc1s32.hotmail.com [65.55.116.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35F42580651 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 19:38:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU402-EAS328 ([65.55.116.7]) by BLU004-OMC1S32.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Sat, 5 Jul 2014 18:38:22 -0700 From: marty To: =?utf-8?Q?Joe_Curry?= , =?utf-8?Q?'Terry_Stetler'?= , =?utf-8?Q?FOT?= Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 01:28:24 +0000 FILETIME=[F8B08250:01CF98BA] Subject: Re: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Small_Bore_Racers?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Yup, our old British stuff is not a real good fit with what runs at the conventional autocrosses anymore. I used to relly enjoy the TRF and VTR autocrosses. TRF does not have them at the Summer Parties any more due to lack of participation. Ibll be at VTR in September having a go at it. Marty Sent from Windows Mail From: Joe Curry Sent: bSaturdayb, bJulyb b5b, b2014 b2b:b27b bPM To: 'Terry Stetler', FOT You said "CLUB". SCCA hasn't been a club since corporate interests took over in the early 2000's. Their interests are only in making money. If that means eliminating some cars as they pare down classes, so be it. This applies both to road racing as well as autocross. That is precisely why I stopped competing in SCCA sanctioned events in 2004. Joe C. -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Terry Stetler Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 7:56 AM To: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Small Bore Racers As has been said, the Miata is what's needed to win in SCCA, and that is the way SCCA wants it. The Club cannot make money from companies that no longer exist. (Standard Triumph, BMC, BLMC, JRT). Like all automotive competition endeavours, new, young, competitors are needed to keep the membership roles full and also the grids. Younger members want to drive modern, lower cost/maintenance cars. Fiddling with grenade motor Frog Eye Sprites and Spitfires is not in their play book. They want a car they can flog all season and concentrate on driving it, not rebuilding it every other race to be competitive at the National level. Which bring us to the other issue with the cars that we like. Spares. There is not an infinite number of usable engine blocks out there for any of the cars we love. Ask anyone competing with a an FWB Climax engined car. While certainly there are many more Spits, Sprites, MGBs and TRs, the number of parts gets smaller every year. This makes them more expensive. There is no magic to this equation. Also look at it from the vintage racer's perspective. To build a front of the grid Spitfire will cost every bit as much as a TR3 through 6 car. Most guys will choose the faster car. It's human nature. Terry Stetler _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:36 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EECD225849B3 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 22:13:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from ex.dunnwalshholdings.com (ex.dunnwalshholdings.com [173.219.117.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCE042584966 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 22:13:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::6cea:93a1:26a:8c3c]) by TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::6cea:93a1:26a:8c3c%15]) with mapi; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 21:13:43 -0700 From: Edward Dunn To: marty , FOT Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 21:12:37 -0700 Thread-Topic: [Fot] Small Bore Racers Thread-Index: Ac+YVDGQNbi3fn2cRtGjm43wzfEbaQAeWgCQ References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: Re: [Fot] Small Bore Racers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO As has already been said, folks tend to like cars that were cool when they were at that coming of age time, teen years. At 56, I'm considered a fairly young MG TD owner. In my case, that sweet spot for cars is right around 1970. How many younger folks do you see interested in Model A's, Packards, etc. Not many. I think the future for racing any MG, Triumph, Morgan, etc. is in vintage. Even then, I see the huge Huffaker transporters (and similar) and their very expensive to keep MGB, corvette's, etc,. Far out of the league of the typical MG/Triumph vintage racer. Considering what is needed to run competitively in SCCA, I just don't think it's a viable proposition for our vintage cars. Owning several vintage British cars, including a handful of race cars, without a doubt a Miata or similar is better for most racers. We just happen to dig the vintage scene, and have no interest in SCCA type racing. I would expect to see continued decrease of vintage British cars involved in SCCA racing. Encourage those folks to come vintage race, where it could be argued that's where they really belong, as none are newer than 1980. We'll pass along a fine vintage sports car to each of our kids, and grandkids. I'll provide any of them with a car & support to go vintage racing. I think that's the way to keep it going forward, along with being open and friendly to all who show an interest at the track, in our neighborhood, etc. Last little point; take one of your vintage race cars to local car shows. You'll stand among the sea of 55-57 Chevy's, Corvette's & Porsche's. Invite those interested to actually touch and sit in your car. Fire it up maybe. Give out business cards, and have them call you if they have any interest in getting involved. You'll create quite a stir, compared to the bozos with the "Don't Touch" signs all over their cars. Ed Dunn West Coast Vintage Racing Penngrove CA 94951 760-492-3814 www.vintageracing.us -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of marty Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 6:14 AM To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Small Bore Racers Just thinkinb& back in the 90bs in my neck of the woods there use to be full grids of Sprites and Midgets racing. I cannot remember the last time I saw a Bugeye on track. Seemed like they were coming out of the woodwork. I hardly ever see them any more. At Mid-Ohio last weekend there were two midgets, that was it. Where the heck did they all disappear to? Marty Sent from Windows Mail _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:36 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2832584A08 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 23:15:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qg0-f52.google.com (mail-qg0-f52.google.com [209.85.192.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7192325849B4 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 23:15:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qg0-f52.google.com with SMTP id f51so2623313qge.11 for ; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 22:15:23 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=LDvHWAHq42d8jEjl3hkCJYpJm7XRXTjGZBhcItYNdCk=; b=NRlB0H/6hPqJ9n12rgB61EWIo314LK1w4dOyPeaL1ymiHg7/YRnSg3u3Uc5bkCG/3V rmq4V87NLzZU11CMiO3jFS6ZTvNJCWh7KplaLTOqhOOjhTfoeMJuLusxoTLIjJ7UGmtl /509Zb6Qh9GKo9evHrt5Zisv7SoobYFvG8kBfw4fZHjgF5RD99/e6OzMUgbkQNrZKGiG /kSE5BeOVMHlKeEq76n2CQnEVsPd3hohjTTMoEG63U5cA71lLY4GTPv24m8vgi+wnkNz pVerJudqI07zcTs8+EL2CzHWqiU3DJLoTlF3PFmGYEUpNxe49g+ftJbf5lHO8+0jWydY BqpQ== c67mr32551449qgc.16.1404623723708; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 22:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.212.70 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 22:14:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Kas Kastner Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 22:14:43 -0700 To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Old race cars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO I've met a lot of young guys that love their cars. They were not brought up with them, they just kind of met them along the way somewhere. Keeping these older cars working good and in fine trim is not easy and that is part of the charm and the contest. Not every young guy is lost in a field of modern technology. Lots are involved and take great pride in finding ways to "fix" things and enjoy the research and the trials and the problems. It isn't easy, but it is FUN. I never thought ANYONE would give a damn, and that was fifty years ago. Actually it is still kind of a mystery to me that so many really care and more will come along as they are right now. Just encourage and assist when you can. *Never be beaten by equipment.* _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:36 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD942584A10 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 23:43:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8250725849B3 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 23:43:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id NtgV1o0020EPcho01tjgVc; Sun, 06 Jul 2014 05:43:40 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:2600:100f:b12f:c4da:cc88:1cf:b732:74d6] ([IPv6:2600:100f:b12f:c4da:cc88:1cf:b732:74d6]) by omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Ntje1o0063sHoiR8MtjfhD; Sun, 06 Jul 2014 05:43:39 +0000 Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2014 22:43:22 -0700 From: Norlin Engineering To: Kas Kastner s=q20140121; t=1404625420; bh=RCGvVQkTtLY0Aq6KeKeguFbP2AiKAtjIlmu/VQvVV4Y=; h=Received:Received:Date:Subject:Message-ID:From:To:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=PVwZbWHXjtw1WLsMz7zT5hGaYtErj4C20ue7b7e10Er3s54dJ4uh8SeYbLXen+bcW 8NwMQUhwRwetm+22bc/hC8k7x2YyMLc8j0gbEGigUHjoh1U9DKzkObsm4htuwODqAX OtJeXTuy2fwfWRMyFlYVrWmbfFilRm3Rpsmwhno/79uLnu713sDDX1R+GlqY9vAs4+ yONdfTXnmHkQuTeVgCCcsOLFnnY3IpkHhWVumxuTK8mrneRdLNRbolKwGTpqgMDS0g D/BYNf2yjUEwAJavfFZQzEJTrmVTfL7KCN/MgzJ8AsiamkNPaHbGIgZQ5HckfrZ2mY f7s1t1Dgh7Cpw== Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Old race cars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Kas - you nailed it! Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Kas Kastner wrote: >I've met a lot of young guys that love their cars. They were not brought >up with them, they just kind of met them along the way somewhere. Keeping >these older cars working good and in fine trim is not easy and that is part >of the charm and the contest. Not every young guy is lost in a field of >modern technology. Lots are involved and take great pride in finding ways >to "fix" things and enjoy the research and the trials and the problems. It >isn't easy, but it is FUN. > >I never thought ANYONE would give a damn, and that was fifty years ago. >Actually it is still kind of a mystery to me that so many really care and >more will come along as they are right now. Just encourage and assist when >you can. > >*Never be beaten by equipment.* >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/norlinengineering@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:36 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2039E2584A0E for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 02:40:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from na01-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-by2lp0239.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.239]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF889258069D for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 02:36:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BL2PR05MB113.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.255.232.20) by BL2PR05MB114.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.255.232.24) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.980.8; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 08:36:47 +0000 Received: from BL2PR05MB113.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.1.226]) by BL2PR05MB113.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.1.226]) with mapi id 15.00.0980.000; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 08:36:47 +0000 From: "Dolan, James J" To: Kas Kastner Thread-Topic: [Fot] Old race cars Thread-Index: AQHPmNlZMjZwDHy5XkOvncXX6XIekJuSuSTC Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 08:36:46 +0000 References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [95.156.135.31] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID: x-forefront-prvs: 0264FEA5C3 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(6009001)(189002)(199002)(24454002)(377454003)(51704005)(86362001)(92726001)(15975445006)(2656002)(46102001)(19580395003)(19580405001)(83322001)(76482001)(92566001)(33656002)(107046002)(101416001)(77982001)(82746002)(77096002)(80022001)(76176999)(54356999)(81542001)(36756003)(79102001)(85306003)(81342001)(50986999)(99396002)(85806002)(83072002)(85852003)(21056001)(15202345003)(105586002)(74502001)(74662001)(31966008)(95666004)(16601075003)(99286002)(64706001)(20776003)(66066001)(106116001)(4396001)(83716003)(106356001)(110136001)(87936001)(104396001); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:BL2PR05MB114; H:BL2PR05MB113.namprd05.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; LANG:en; Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Old race cars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Kas, I think the passing of traditions and the interest in things with "history" will pass from our generation to the next one. Think about the interest today in brass era cars and Big Headlight cars of the 20's and 30's. The folks who collect and enjoy them are not folks who drove them before or shared/raced them with the dad. So although we see an aging crowd in the race paddock (like me) at vintage events, I see a pretty large sport we are involved in and a lot of cars. It may have peaked at this point, due to the aging demographic, but there were 700 cars at the SVRA Indy event. There are 200,000 people that attend the week long Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix. That is a lot of people watching TR3 & 4's on a city street road course. As those events gain traction as "new" traditions, they bring a new group of participants into the sport. As a example, your '72 GT6 will be racing at PVGP next week with my 22 year old son. What will be interesting to watch is how the line that separates "vintage" cars like our Triumphs, from "modern" cars as the line of demarcation slides up the date curve. Today's Spec Miata is tomorrow's vintage racer, and I doubt the guys making race history with them today expect some day a guy will have restored the SCCA National Champion car and proudly race it again. Sent from my iPad > On Jul 6, 2014, at 7:15 AM, "Kas Kastner" wrote: > > I've met a lot of young guys that love their cars. They were not brought > up with them, they just kind of met them along the way somewhere. Keeping > these older cars working good and in fine trim is not easy and that is part > of the charm and the contest. Not every young guy is lost in a field of > modern technology. Lots are involved and take great pride in finding ways > to "fix" things and enjoy the research and the trials and the problems. It > isn't easy, but it is FUN. > > I never thought ANYONE would give a damn, and that was fifty years ago. > Actually it is still kind of a mystery to me that so many really care and > more will come along as they are right now. Just encourage and assist when > you can. > > *Never be beaten by equipment.* > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jdolan@voyagerhldgs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:37 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916A02584FB7 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 11:36:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm34.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm34.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.59]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D26525848A5 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 11:36:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [212.82.98.127] by nm34.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jul 2014 17:36:59 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.102] by tm20.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jul 2014 17:36:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp139.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jul 2014 17:36:59 -0000 s=s1024; t=1404668219; bh=nKqCrV9cgeBzNsMNwcZich3QlASjO/fe6dFwG8UwU04=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Message-ID:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:MIME-Version:From:To:Subject:Importance:Date:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type; b=pMaqGvKHrBDvC4Vn4xUZb/mHkjvbzbv7mVUwYtSCBFgVDf+X+wSNFbpFmsOQhOCLTqzI2LZ8a4A4ul9S6QHgP5gPiLmXbzd7N7of5dkPfIZWjlDinCdbP12jxygr+8NcDJv8MlxFSWHEn3zvvZJbyLHa8UyoXFfwNzo16HLhR3I= RZMzcJMCKAidz_DEqYk4SaqPoHABVmk9rQ4qBL8V_URzkF24pXexVkgUdPif Ab0oGHXf_Cn_zY0pIXhEAyCTkEeGK.un_D.aCOc1undvp88TOyrAvcTJtlar n0.m8KHCxsJ8tBGQfl5Nk7HhEnf9Vf4CjddZVbVU2byBL2TZszSCFkC2Zhj7 h6xRgbIGwHCPIGGiqkCPfJ8u08MRMCCP_NMbyxTUEHN_dYdq7DlcnWMXZLx8 QD5ldLavk55QnMIUyGK37J84wyAyx9ARyzaCPyhg3pJcTzbQaMVooxRjNujp jZVnzQT5JhEFpnXmn5xMvg8d9Peck7bnbSE4SFslfaOLdsY4j_djBgcW1lE5 Rno04snxnEfg7V32IM8wibg2j4HgmFOEwzIQ57B8xnwyeFrz43stChJiKf23 LfME8xtQS_wFxJCRCDTc54JaGuMUn9gv.6tUrNkY67ddYGBQlfQHq266m5bs KBTmdolLZRxNTJkUIwhmg.tBEcx.TQoKZz2aUkbhf8gYSC59eH40oaYn2dCh 1I97.Rhd12SIkDeMqxI5aytZ.626m4mZpNgRPzotA8qQv_GyrHinCP221VjP wmL5j2BonT9_LFqau7tDbBt4pISYlSQE_QMiKD56xyOln_PbDfNPraCRzCwO YAIpZnzquHwCAjfAC [188.125.68.56]) by smtp139.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 06 Jul 2014 17:36:59 +0000 UTC From: To: "=?utf-8?Q?fot@autox.team.net?=" Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 17:33:04 +0000 References: , <94A56C5B-1721-4604-97DE-1079FABC795D@gdhs.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Small_one_wire_alt_for_TR3/4?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO This is what we use, bolts right on, single wire, nice. I have some extra adjustment brackets if you are interested. http://www.jegs.com/i/Powermaster/713/8162/10002/-1 Rick Sent from Windows Mail From: John Hasty Sent: bSaturdayb, bJulyb b5b, b2014 b9b:b28b bPM To: Greg And Alison Blake Cc: fot@autox.team.net Greg: there is a co. In Johnson City TN who has 40 amp small units for about $75 We have used one for about 2 yrs with no problems. I'am at lake now but will send name and address when I get to office. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2014, at 5:13 PM, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: > > What's the recommendation for small alternators for the tractor motors? > > Time to get rid of the boat anchor I have on mine. > > Thanks > > Greg > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:37 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1452584B60 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 21:03:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d09.mx.aol.com (omr-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED6A25800B9 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 21:03:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mac01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mac01.mx.aol.com [172.26.222.207]) by omr-d09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6711E700000A4 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 23:03:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-drd004a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-drd004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.227.13]) by mtaomg-mac01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 34CCF38000082 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 23:03:36 -0400 (EDT) References: <94A56C5B-1721-4604-97DE-1079FABC795D@gdhs.com> To: fot@autox.team.net From: malaboge@aol.com Received: from 50.150.127.134 by webmail-va053.sysops.aol.com (149.174.102.74) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 06 Jul 2014 23:03:36 -0400 Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 23:03:36 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1404702216; bh=00ImNxHDgdExflmK2hPBee+NTsUsH74udXDNgpVYCmI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pMN6UBr8RIc6+zGw56qKQ3fAIGPy3/jHJ5NZZlNkxzfbbCQnC2aiNxa7zw29ndbYb DP30tlnlLry45ANpDR3ZbiWiV1D9ZpueWVz4QNnLwaVHLRdpu7G8Tyz19fdydPoFJ2 EKwjNwsZvREaj7Cli6H8kqjHUDJAbIHURmipLPjA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1adecf53ba0e080290 Subject: Re: [Fot] Small one wire alt for TR3/4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO FOT Folks, Bosch makes an alternator that is designed for high revs and race use. It doesn't tend to come apart with excessive revs and puts out more than enough amperage (forgot exactly how much) and is the usual mounting issues. Available from several suppliers, including Amazon, for a decent price. Part no is ALRACE1. Shocking in Nor Cal Nick > On Jul 5, 2014, at 5:13 PM, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: > > What's the recommendation for small alternators for the tractor motors? > > Time to get rid of the boat anchor I have on mine. > > Thanks > > Greg > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/malaboge@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:38 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A295C25808DE for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 05:34:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA4F25803FF for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 05:34:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.23.238]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0N8C00NJPATK0X20@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 06:34:33 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: , References: <94A56C5B-1721-4604-97DE-1079FABC795D@gdhs.com> <8D167A72DAC960D-488-9506@webmail-va053.sysops.aol.com> Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 07:34:33 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] Small one wire alt for TR3/4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO FOT: I use a regular $60 Delco altrernator and wire it to self regulate. It takes a very small modification to align it right: just file off a small part of the mounting tab on the alternator. I also modify the mounting bracket on the 6. The original bolt is a 5/16. I drill and tap the hole to 3/8 for theDelco. Works well and is stronger. No problems in 8 years. I don't run the revs that some guys do though with their 4s. KISS. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Small one wire alt for TR3/4 > FOT Folks, > Bosch makes an alternator that is designed for high revs and race use. > It doesn't tend to come apart with excessive revs and puts out more > than enough amperage (forgot exactly how much) and is the usual > mounting issues. > Available from several suppliers, including Amazon, for a decent price. > Part no is ALRACE1. > > Shocking in Nor Cal > Nick > >> On Jul 5, 2014, at 5:13 PM, Greg And Alison Blake > > wrote: >> >> What's the recommendation for small alternators for the tractor > motors? >> >> Time to get rid of the boat anchor I have on mine. >> >> Thanks >> >> Greg >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/malaboge@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:38 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11FE8258486D for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 06:48:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A54258043B for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 06:48:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.27]) by qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PQf21o0030bG4ec59QoF2h; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 12:48:15 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-162v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.48.196]) by omta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PQoF1o0094DyWjm3PQoF5y; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 12:48:15 +0000 Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 12:48:15 +0000 (UTC) From: cudapilot@comcast.net To: Kas Kastner , fot@autox.team.net References: (Win)/8.0.3_GA_5664) Thread-Topic: Old race cars Thread-Index: 2BPZu2cc2Gw57VCKSTqARGWejSbiDg== s=q20140121; t=1404737295; bh=dhEOv+wWz204NPTRtlsk76EBUmChHGQky+Re6MnWJSs=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=Il+JotxQoYgi8SABS1shKE4x2XotTNAZnHdEdH6auyIDXsnVb2DawLho+QcCHIE3R iC8QUibBY7NHSuPc6HDxPO0AbjO0PGpf0wWaPzEyJ7GbUVE2ID3JWcLnNC5UgAaeDm Oswcc+yLhoOuMbuUmJX1/mO5RPJUYPFB5h/Tyh+k4LvnESWcksqK5W6m8KEBQ6CUMx 1kr1OCngPHJINizftGisT5GsGCWH4NfJKn6Deho66LCR1y8TKQbYckiiZiUFWIPK40 I5KM/U3ofg9USxu2gh6mvdscn3HEc5teVrNv8imyAkWfXVTdOIAms17zB+nFmcTnKm Ng6Svi//ju+Yg== Subject: Re: [Fot] Old race cars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO It is true that the driver meetings at most vintage events are primarily a grey (or no) hair affair.B Though I am not quite the young buck I was when I started racing, I am still in my 30s which puts me down toward the bottom of the age chart most weekends at the track.B I started out racing more modern cars in IT and Showroom Stock but ever since I got my first car (69 Firebird) I had always been a fan of 60s/early 70s era cars.B The first time I went to a vintage event I was hooked and I have been racing vintage ever since.B A lot of guys race the old cars because they grew up racing those cars when they were new or at least watching other race them.B For me, it's an opportunity to step back to a time B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kas Kastner" To: "FOT" Sent: Sunday, July 6, 2014 12:14:43 AM Subject: [Fot] Old race cars I've met a lot of young guys that love their cars. B They were not brought up with them, they just kind of met them along the way somewhere. Keeping these older cars working good and in fine trim is not easy and that is part of the charm and the contest. Not every young guy is lost in a field of modern technology. B Lots are involved and take great pride in finding ways to "fix" things and enjoy the research and the trials and the problems. B It isn't easy, but it is FUN. I never thought ANYONE would give a damn, and that was fifty years ago. Actually it is still kind of a mystery to me that so many really care and more will come along as they are right now. Just encourage and assist when you can. *Never be beaten by equipment.* _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cudapilot@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:38 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173BF2584963 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 07:30:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.56]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66CCA258043B for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 07:29:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.27]) by qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PQq21o0020bG4ec56RVc4f; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 13:29:36 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-162v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.48.196]) by omta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PRVc1o00A4DyWjm3PRVcNv; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 13:29:36 +0000 Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 13:29:36 +0000 (UTC) From: cudapilot@comcast.net To: Kas Kastner , fot@autox.team.net References: <1584580715.18423081.1404737295060.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> (Win)/8.0.3_GA_5664) Thread-Topic: Old race cars Thread-Index: 2BPZu2cc2Gw57VCKSTqARGWejSbiDmHUHVnj s=q20140121; t=1404739776; bh=fHwUulOZBnDkS4phOs8CC9bNVzbA+OtGQudN/B2zB4Y=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=UCLbpWF2+yDWjkRA/yG4m8aY4EB2EFCBD4HbY8XrgAt4yr9ylWSDiJG1y+Toe3Hvx TEt3WXPr1uSuU++Y8NfPQAufLAmY3YkYc6oHVH7cEzMu0eMwlBb0cN+TIWywSpEwJr aaD61y2++qYd4UaS+zMxVyvT9bJUQMsO7aVG90/MjHZqyZZiAQju05jkaJj3+ofTaY LNqlLMIGzOQ7mIVI7xRT1Aby1dEa5r4R4EJx4z+hJfwJ/w9RUZngJPGwEU2D9b5RHl vFjIFO4xTpuFBUb/q11tt2qulLml/B6NssdNTWJ7DQCPFSm/A3VrO/UHJzCAGH6nv3 Utkj6SKPcSg3A== Subject: [Fot] Old race cars - finished before I hit send this time.. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO B It is true that the driver meetings at most vintage events are primarily a grey (or no) hair affair.B Though I am not quite the young buck I was when I started racing, I am still in my 30s which puts me down toward the bottom of the age chart most weekends at the track.B I started out racing more modern cars in IT and Showroom Stock but ever since I got my first car (69 Firebird) I had always been a fan of 60s/early 70s era cars.B The first time I went to a vintage event I was hooked and I have been racing vintage ever since.B A lot of guys race the old cars because they grew up racing those cars when they were new or at least watching other race them.B For me, it's an opportunity to step back to a time before I was born and experience the sights and sounds from an era that showcased the best technology in the world, but that technology was still accessible to the average guy.B As an engineer, I can appreciate the technology of today and what they are able to make racecars do.B As a driver, I am in awe of those that came before me in an age of manual steering, manual brakes, and traction control that only involved one's right foot.B Once I experienced that, I was hooked for good and I have made it my mission since then to do whatever I can to get people on the track so that they can experience the same.B Working on the car is part of the experience - some kids will like that and some won't.B I like knowing that I can, will (and have) done everything up to and including changing a driveline at the track with nothing more than simple hand tools.B No computers or lasers necessary - just take elbow grease and add piss and vinegar. B B This past weekend we had the Cheetah at Gingerman Raceway in Michigan for an open track day testing in preparation for an upcoming race at Road America.B Most of the participants had modern imports or exotics and had never seen up close the likes of the Cheetah.B Based on their reaction, they had never heard anything like it either.B All day we had people stopping by asking about the car.B That is one of the best part about old cars - they tend to be a common denominator that can bridge gaps in age, income bracket, and all other manner of socio-economic factors.B There is something pure and visceral about an old race car that bring people together.B B Velocity stacks, pinstripes, and minilites are memory triggers that andB should be prescribed as anti-depressants.B Everyone has a story that they share - 'I remember seeing one race at Meadowdale in 65' or 'I never should have sold mine' or 'This reminds me of my dad'.B With the Cheetah the big one is 'I had a slot car of this when I was a kid'.B It's easy to see why the older crowd loves them but I try to encourage the younger ones when I can.B I will always ask kids if they want to sit in the cars.B At bigger events where there are spectators I will always wave to the kids when I'm on my way to grid or on a cooldown lap (they're at an age where they assume anyone in a firesuit is somebody ;)B I guess in short I try to give them some sort of memory or hook that hopefully they will share with someone else.B Who knows - maybe they'll want to drive an older car too. I have met so many amazing people since I have been vintage racing.B Most of the drivers share the same addiction as me so that is an easy connection to make.B The best experiences though are meeting those that blazed the trail that we are all still driving down today.B It's guys like Kas that engineered these cars to perform beyond the factory's expecations for longer than anyone would have ever imagined.B It's the welders, painters, and metalsmiths that I have seen take a piece of sheet metal and form it into a rolling work of art suitable for any museum worth its salt.B There have been times where I am on a pace lap that it hits me - I amB looking out my visor at all of the cars that I haveB spent countless hours reading/dreaming about.B I am surrounded by Lolas, GT40s, andB other classicsB and for thatB brief moment before the task at handB begins I appreciate the sounds, smells, and the fact that my right foot is already cooking in the footbox.B This does notB happen when you are sitting in Hyundai surrounded by Mazdas.B B All of this together creates a niche in the racing world that I feel blessed to be a part of.B I want to make sure that when I am part of the grey hair contingent at the drivers meeting that there is another generation following that have the same crazy spark in their eye when they hear a GT6 crackle to life and watch the 30th running of the Kaster Cup. B Brian Garcia Crew Chief - Friendly Ghost Racing B B B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kas Kastner" To: "FOT" Sent: Sunday, July 6, 2014 12:14:43 AM Subject: [Fot] Old race cars I've met a lot of young guys that love their cars. B They were not brought up with them, they just kind of met them along the way somewhere. Keeping these older cars working good and in fine trim is not easy and that is part of the charm and the contest. Not every young guy is lost in a field of modern technology. B Lots are involved and take great pride in finding ways to "fix" things and enjoy the research and the trials and the problems. B It isn't easy, but it is FUN. I never thought ANYONE would give a damn, and that was fifty years ago. Actually it is still kind of a mystery to me that so many really care and more will come along as they are right now. Just encourage and assist when you can. *Never be beaten by equipment.* _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cudapilot@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:38 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 603612584A07 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 09:11:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail201c2.megamailservers.com (mail201c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BCF42580682 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 09:10:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dtjhh ([64.128.77.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail201c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id s67FAoV0009588; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 11:10:56 -0400 From: "John Hasty" To: "'Greg And Alison Blake'" , References: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 11:10:50 -0400 Thread-Index: AQGRscbJgHmIO15gsmWuSvwSgJXWS5wQhskA Content-Language: en-us reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] Small one wire alt for TR3/4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO DB Electrical Johnson City TN 423 477 2242 #AND0525 one wire alternator $84.84 -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg And Alison Blake Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 5:14 PM To: Subject: [Fot] Small one wire alt for TR3/4 What's the recommendation for small alternators for the tractor motors? Time to get rid of the boat anchor I have on mine. Thanks Greg _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhhasty@gdhs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:38 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8AEF25852BF for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 14:12:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy5-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy5-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.38.55]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E2D1B2584BEE for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 14:11:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 14437 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jul 2014 20:11:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw4) (10.0.90.85) by gproxy5.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 7 Jul 2014 20:11:40 -0000 Received: from box609.bluehost.com ([70.40.220.109]) by cmgw4 with id PeBU1o0042ND4fa01eBX9j; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 20:11:38 -0600 a=lIFjRvzYbs2a9zjsf5t3KA==:117 a=lIFjRvzYbs2a9zjsf5t3KA==:17 a=cNaOj0WVAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=mjHxJximMcMA:10 a=NG0IswC7AAAA:8 a=8A7brI4kjU8C6ETGAX3PRdgeao0=:19 a=OClWVmo2AGkA:10 a=J1eBsHY9chcA:10 a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=Zr7miEi8wWIA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=2bg5X1vb55xziHTe7fwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=inEO-lZ-oCwA:10 a=iSI85gDsR94A:10 a=dnM0SgFSCr8A:10 a=Qgjjbb4ryqoA:10 a=ySgIuqwg-mwA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=iK3bMgt3OZ5MUMWCNqYA:9 a=MQa8RD9a_WDK3xZc:21 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=yCr1Xb7FhhBKX6hC4qEA:9 a=n3BslyFRqc0A:10 a=bhkaYMs-ANYA:10 a=Sf_gFPzhefAA:10 d=klaenv.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:To:From; bh=UKiUymLyXZbrc45rgt4ahF8U89Lh9aaFd4H7fr+t9lQ=; b=WodLR8VOGfbdXegb3MBgHlFeQxqcI9H7i2d7yZJkt5h+fBAby3cB3j6zlt4gPa4TNR2EKW11/WCwLD0X+3UrusFUU+Df/VZaLuBcVQQEDqcKaSnApGoO5TvxWIml9M1I; Received: from [71.52.59.33] (port=53432 helo=4ZQFXQ1KENPC) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1X4FG1-0004s3-SM for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 14:11:29 -0600 From: "Kenneth Knight" To: "FOT" References: <004301cf9a1b$718a3070$549e9150$@com> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 13:11:23 -0700 Thread-Index: AQFNV3w2QWwWHFQpEXN7ZqjidqvPF5yZja3Q Content-Language: en-us {sentby:smtp auth 71.52.59.33 authed with kknight@klaenv.com} Subject: [Fot] FW: Alternator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO There has been a good deal of discussion about alternators, for all that are interested this is the denso that I run and the cars it was original to. It has been a very good unit and I have one on the car + a spare. You can see that they are not to expensive and on-line or at the local parts house you should be able to get one for an even better price than listed here. You might have to eat a small core charge one time. They are small, light, cheap and put out more than enough amps for a race car. Hope this helps. Cheers, Ken From: Paige Arcuri [mailto:parcuri@klaenv.com] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 12:41 PM To: 'Kenneth Knight' Subject: Alternator Paige Arcuri Office & HR Manager Knight & Leavitt Associates, Inc. 4105 Wagon Trail Avenue Las Vegas, NV. 89118 (702) 897-2628-landline (702) 897-8223-fax [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of Alternator.pdf] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3FC2584C48 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 16:43:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5430C2584C0D for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 16:40:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20140707224101.LBXN6169.mta11.charter.net@imp09> for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 18:41:01 -0400 Received: from mtaout005.msg.strl.va.charter.net ([68.114.190.30]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id Pah11o00H0fnx6C05ah1sd; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 18:41:01 -0400 Received: from impout002 ([68.114.189.17]) by mtaout005.msg.strl.va.charter.net (InterMail vM.9.00.010.00 201-2473-137) with ESMTP id <20140707224100.QIKB23052.mtaout005.msg.strl.va.charter.net@impout002> for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 17:41:00 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([71.13.57.46]) by impout002 with charter.net id Pagz1o00J0zqE8701ah0PJ; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 17:41:00 -0500 a=T8ZvV9MwTeTB9gBQdg/YAw==:117 a=T8ZvV9MwTeTB9gBQdg/YAw==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=tcnv99F1KMcA:10 a=y66vZi8z_cIA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=CggI0_EGKLdvXsrMgOMA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 18:40:59 -0400 From: Glenn Franco User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: Friends of triumph Subject: [Fot] Wetliner Engine Cam Bearing Install Problems Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Having discovered that the cam bearings in this engine were not installed properly to line up with the bearing plugs, I was considering making my own tool to pull new bearings into the block. I have used most of the cam install tools on the market including the Lisle tool currently available. This has been revised since the last time I used one. The last time I used one had o-rings to hold the bearings. These work but I'm considering making a simple tool on the lathe. Anyways I was thinking about turning some aluminum on the lathe to make a tool. Does anyone know the I.D. and O.D. of the TR4 Cam Bearings?? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks in Advance Glenn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FFB92584D30 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 18:18:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D212584C04 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 18:18:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [75.86.187.21] ([75.86.187.21:65355] helo=Steve) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 5F/90-28754-3E83BB35; Tue, 08 Jul 2014 00:18:43 +0000 From: "Steve Yott" To: "'Glenn Franco'" , "'Friends of triumph'" References: <53BB21FB.9080800@charter.net> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 19:18:40 -0500 Thread-Index: AQF+NFCsGnKt2K9NUCJzxMjkFC/WLpw4Gg8Q Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Wetliner Engine Cam Bearing Install Problems Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Out of a new package, They are not round, the outside diameter varies between 1.840 to 1.850. The inside diameter varies from 1.715 to 1.725. They obviously become round as they are driven into the round bores. Many years ago I made an installation tool and used a compressible piece of rubber that holds the bearing as I drive it in. Steve Yott -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Glenn Franco Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:41 PM To: Friends of triumph Subject: [Fot] Wetliner Engine Cam Bearing Install Problems Having discovered that the cam bearings in this engine were not installed properly to line up with the bearing plugs, I was considering making my own tool to pull new bearings into the block. I have used most of the cam install tools on the market including the Lisle tool currently available. This has been revised since the last time I used one. The last time I used one had o-rings to hold the bearings. These work but I'm considering making a simple tool on the lathe. Anyways I was thinking about turning some aluminum on the lathe to make a tool. Does anyone know the I.D. and O.D. of the TR4 Cam Bearings?? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks in Advance Glenn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76F62584D2D for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 03:42:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm16-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm16-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.109]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1D42580095 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 03:42:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.100.114] by nm16.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jul 2014 09:42:46 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.166] by tm105.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jul 2014 09:42:46 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1067.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jul 2014 09:42:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 34067 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jul 2014 09:42:46 -0000 s=s1024; t=1404812566; bh=rPLPtGvx0uZGeu73UDsKTv48f3Zn5mgTnNFDuseO85I=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Jh0ZC0IvBL793nKZg9QFyf1kJbHe8Hb7ZLm3gBi9CjUdWzHaQj3xnOZn6avxSVSNkdZsPzHWBE/WcehYCPUyuyj781DU1rZexzxl3cEbmRl0tLkXv60odkPWl/HCm6Eqq3KeTNpy59kZybJkhk2arr94tcZZ5BeGDmVOaHJb8mI= NThJM2nNv20AxY6lf_heSm1K1feSM_rQrxgXiMa5OeXVPVTgE4yGSwecP4UX NmU52zP2Dy0JpuxY8Ydd_WjbBt.e6I5Pns7q6YI5bRM73rLQhijXeeMe6Upt NLog.f5ygbfKtjYTVDy5wA1uM_X2oRdHyfZy6edNkCKtr5rIkdLYHQ9bM6BZ chwGJBNQ5J5Jvtq0WKFmr.PCTFVigihRQh1YzlyxRyHROGRSq_ZDJMnhVsgV QYI6OR.q7ntRt76BUtvuakFVuPs6BrFba1LS2mQMls4XhOYF.aw3PlCJ9yDx zFd7spNW1Q9IZL4FOguQnRZRu9vmjTjrtHamz23DB3RsjKSXn9esb3atJdfp YAY9ep1Yo20MxDHRzZIqtEt1DadklCH096pD1.JWCzX3Qg8CuWw_2kc8rlx8 t5Z6NxnwB5HZA79zUn9xcHKspQPAyvR7rxcxci8w.sgolQGAeFT8WVutYyw9 mj4pU7PlpvNCsWS8Th0ucEi8sCft9h87xtrxnlsp1_Xc6NlOPWHKW3Y8PUc9 P_7kJhrC.q7Y1IG0gUPNGwLQGut_RKA4WDckqLQ3ZJqhVnrLAHvm84tQR7K. EUWvIUZCb Received: from [108.12.234.95] by web121406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 08 Jul 2014 02:42:46 PDT SXMgaXQgcG9zc2libGUgdG8gc2VuZCBhbiBhdHRhY2htZW50IG9uIHRoaXMgbGlzdD8gSG93IGNhbiBJIHJlY2VpdmUgdGhlIFBERiB0aGF0IHdhcyByZW1vdmVkIGZyb20gdGhpcyBlbWFpbD8KVGhhbmtzLCBCcmlhbgoKCj5fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwo.IEZyb206IEtlbm5ldGggS25pZ2h0IDxra25pZ2h0QGtsYWVudi5jb20.Cj5UbzogRk9UIDxmb3RAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQ.IAo.U2VudDogTW9uZGF5LCBKdWx5IDcsIDIwMTQgNDoxMSBQTQo.U3ViamVjdDogW0ZvdF0gRlcBMAEBAQE- References: <004301cf9a1b$718a3070$549e9150$@com> <000901cf9a1f$a12e1810$e38a4830$@klaenv.com> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 02:42:46 -0700 From: Brian Dennis To: Kenneth Knight , FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] FW: Alternator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Is it possible to send an attachment on this list? How can I receive the PDF that was removed from this email? Thanks, Brian >________________________________ > From: Kenneth Knight >To: FOT >Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 4:11 PM >Subject: [Fot] FW: Alternator > > >There has been a good deal of discussion about alternators, for all that are >interested this is the denso that I run and the cars it was original to. It >has been a very good unit and I have one on the car + a spare. You can see >that they are not to expensive and on-line or at the local parts house you >should be able to get one for an even better price than listed here. You >might have to eat a small core charge one time. They are small, light, >cheap and put out more than enough amps for a race car. Hope this helps. > > > >Cheers, Ken > > > >From: Paige Arcuri [mailto:parcuri@klaenv.com] >Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 12:41 PM >To: 'Kenneth Knight' >Subject: Alternator > > > > > > > >Paige Arcuri > >Office & HR Manager > > > > > >Knight & Leavitt Associates, Inc. > >4105 Wagon Trail Avenue > >Las Vegas, NV. 89118 > >(702) 897-2628-landline > >(702) 897-8223-fax > >[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of Alternator.pdf] >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britracer89@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A342584DC7 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 09:01:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy7-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy7-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [70.40.196.235]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 672502580558 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 08:58:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 21482 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jul 2014 14:58:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw4) (10.0.90.85) by gproxy7.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 8 Jul 2014 14:58:24 -0000 Received: from box609.bluehost.com ([70.40.220.109]) by cmgw4 with id PwyK1o00b2ND4fa01wyNBh; Tue, 08 Jul 2014 14:58:22 -0600 a=lIFjRvzYbs2a9zjsf5t3KA==:117 a=lIFjRvzYbs2a9zjsf5t3KA==:17 a=cNaOj0WVAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=mjHxJximMcMA:10 a=NG0IswC7AAAA:8 a=OClWVmo2AGkA:10 a=J1eBsHY9chcA:10 a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=Zr7miEi8wWIA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=Lj6Po3smAAAA:8 a=7Klz3611-p76ZhAKkLgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Q2bTx2K6wpkA:10 a=loeL6SEpdzIA:10 a=7IuBs90HlMAA:10 a=JoqmApVl_cwA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=68hGVmJyjZylwD3UoP8A:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 d=klaenv.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Subject:To:From; bh=wRoulW6MBW81CENyim4PM2ZMEY48f+wUhCmA+pkFSlY=; b=uBy4gVXS7SxAon+2thWz480uwVX7MQ6gEfym1jkpvEgSC6Yu5FApgsNxzepI+EF/+w7TjTGSmkbttuPE1cnUMJkvyVDGRSxksgz4AZhHfiokkvvE4kUJu9itOObFNCCn; Received: from [71.52.59.33] (port=51242 helo=4ZQFXQ1KENPC) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1X4Wqa-0004qb-P8 for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 08 Jul 2014 08:58:20 -0600 From: "Kenneth Knight" To: "FOT" Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 07:58:18 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac+avQie/4xX/3uSQs+VY6JqhEukCw== Content-Language: en-us {sentby:smtp auth 71.52.59.33 authed with kknight@klaenv.com} Subject: [Fot] Racing Alternator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Good Morning FOT Below is the link to the alternator that I use on my racing car. You should be able to find at a local parts house or get it online. Ken http://www.maniacelectricmotors.com/55ampnialfor1.html _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7946A2584DF5 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 09:35:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp650.redcondor.net (smtp650.redcondor.net [208.80.206.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC422580602 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 09:35:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cgp.netins.net ([167.142.229.73]) by smtp650.redcondor.net ({9ef01f99-b982-4add-83fd-b7c41c74273c}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20140708153538893 for ; Tue, 08 Jul 2014 15:35:38 +0000 Received: from [208.126.78.151] (account riverside@southslope.net HELO rileyPC) by cgpf2.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.13) with ESMTPA id 752612733 for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 08 Jul 2014 10:35:35 -0500 From: To: "FOT" Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 10:35:25 -0500 Subject: [Fot] rear main cap seals Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO I am putting together a motor and have been advised that it is advantageous to replace the bcut up ropeb (still canbt get the image of an elderly lady putting on panty hose out of my mind) with squeezed in silicone sealant. Might a void form unknown to the installer? If the rope is still best, what is the best gunkum with which to soak it. Thanks for the access to your experience. art de armond _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8897A2584DAF for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 10:02:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811F22580558 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 09:58:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20140708155816.YLZM6769.mta31.charter.net@imp09>; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 11:58:16 -0400 Received: from wt04 ([209.225.8.44]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id PryG1o0090x0GZM05ryGmz; Tue, 08 Jul 2014 11:58:16 -0400 a=6OfnzAXicMuM/nPloKd9sg==:17 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=GFdYMyUThMAA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=WMimlZgUAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=a31PLBzmZan3sa-23-EA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=p0idVmGAdl8A:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=6OfnzAXicMuM/nPloKd9sg==:117 Received: from [24.176.24.67] by enhanced.charter.net with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 11:58:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 11:58:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Kelley To: riverside@southslope.net User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] rear main cap seals Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO The factory soaked the wool felt seals in shellac before they were driven into place. Use only a small piece at a time and don't try to set the whole seal in one shot. J Kelley On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:35 AM, riverside@southslope.net wrote: > I am putting together a motor and have been advised that it is > advantageous to replace the bcut up ropeb (still canbt get the > image of an elderly lady putting on panty hose out of my > mind) with squeezed in silicone sealant. Might a void form unknown > to the installer? If the rope is still best, what is the best > gunkum > with which to soak it. > > Thanks for the access to your experience. > > art de armond > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffreykelley@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ACEA2584E59 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 10:17:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d04.mx.aol.com (omr-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.201]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 843DC2580B4F for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 10:13:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mbe01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mbe01.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.173]) by omr-d04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4290A700000AB; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:13:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mbe01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 960D1380000B7; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:13:18 -0400 (EDT) References: <2d65e008.4593b.14716b2697c.Webtop.44@charter.net> From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 11:13:18 -0500 To: Jeff Kelley x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1404835999; bh=NB4TKlWE1sGYKOUfIyUKvji751ykozzIgw0hEmjEel0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=IJAY3TDoqfpF97yiaWUNpJ1Ho3A9A4y4hMaqijVm9cfVnNWVXcM+jretdBouZZkWj OLStugpUgh9EzLlzQMfml301WW1caoURF/RKo2GId8FNxrVOpslLLhlMUDVT517+rV FI7Z0RXvMZwLKvaNVRxXI1ve5tp086FSUfNoKtJg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afead53bc189e3ece Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] rear main cap seals Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO We have a special tool, per Kas, and tap the seal segments home until we get 100% sealant flow at the bearing block seams. When all is done per the book and using Chris Marx new Viton seal design, there are a lot of happy people out there. Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Jeff Kelley wrote: > > The factory soaked the wool felt seals in shellac before they were driven into place. Use only a small piece at a time and don't try to set the whole seal in one shot. > > J Kelley > > >> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:35 AM, riverside@southslope.net wrote: >> >> I am putting together a motor and have been advised that it is >> advantageous to replace the bcut up ropeb (still canbt get the >> image of an elderly lady putting on panty hose out of my >> mind) with squeezed in silicone sealant. Might a void form unknown >> to the installer? If the rope is still best, what is the best gunkum >> with which to soak it. >> >> Thanks for the access to your experience. >> >> art de armond >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffreykelley@charter.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7256F2584ED0 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 11:07:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy7-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy7-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [70.40.196.235]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A6032584EA9 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 11:07:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 21520 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jul 2014 17:07:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw4) (10.0.90.85) by gproxy7.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 8 Jul 2014 17:07:48 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw4 with id Pz7i1o00M1NzpT901z7lrs; Tue, 08 Jul 2014 17:07:46 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=yKqyAkVeGwwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=WMimlZgUAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=hmUfHrY4mGyUekpTebIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=p0idVmGAdl8A:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=55929 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1X4Yrn-0003Qg-Kc; Tue, 08 Jul 2014 11:07:43 -0600 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 12:07:38 -0500 To: ,"FOT" From: Tony Drews References: <8EDC432DFAD04679910383D7EADE3710@rileyPC> {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] rear main cap seals Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO I've not tried alternatives, the felt seems to work well enough. 3/4" to 1" long pieces of felt dipped in Indian Head or Permatex Shellac sealant, mashed into place with something long and skinny using a rubber mallet until the shellac oozes out both sides of the block. I use a Phillips screwdriver, others have a special trapezoidal tool. I use a set of needlenose pliers to dip into the goo and start into the hole in the main cap. One thing to note - some of the gasket kits in the past had felt that was smaller than the hole in the main cap, others included cork instead of felt. Moss sold some felt separately that is the proper larger size. Tony Drews At 10:35 AM 7/8/2014, riverside@southslope.net wrote: >I am putting together a motor and have been advised that it is >advantageous to replace the bcut up ropeb (still canbt get the >image of an elderly lady putting on panty hose out of my >mind) with squeezed in silicone sealant. Might a void form unknown >to the installer? If the rope is still best, what is the best gunkum >with which to soak it. > >Thanks for the access to your experience. > >art de armond >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A47B62584ECA for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:05:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from spamkiller.fastbytes.com (spamkiller.fastbytes.com [192.200.141.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3400A2584E93 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 11:59:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mercury.fastbytes.com [192.200.141.198] by spamkiller.fastbytes.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.00) id A1A17F2014A; Tue, 08 Jul 2014 13:00:01 -0500 Received: from TimDellVostro [192.200.136.236] by mercury.fastbytes.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-8.22) id A1BF080C; Tue, 08 Jul 2014 13:00:31 -0500 From: "Tim Murphy" To: , "'FOT'" References: <8EDC432DFAD04679910383D7EADE3710@rileyPC> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:59:43 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac+awmN1B2AgiC6fTWCBAR7Zv7LkvAAElSRA Content-Language: en-us Organization: FastBytesWireless Inc. Subject: Re: [Fot] rear main cap seals Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO A key thing that has not been discussed so far is fitting the aluminum piece to the block using the correct size mandrel so that it is accurately centered on the crank. Joe A. sells these that are the correct size and I think the Moss ones are now the correct size. The early ones (circa 2008) were not the correct size and I had to turn my mandrel down to get the correct fit. (As I recall there was an error in the Triumph Workshop Manual dimension.) I've used Hylomar sealant on the split of the aluminum piece with good results. I made the trapezoidal punches out of brass and hammer them in using about a 2 lb regular hammer. When the felt starts oozing out between the bearing block and engine block, I know I'm good. I use the Permatex Indian Head Gasket Shellac with good results and do as Tony says. Lately I've been heating it up in the microwave a bit to make it a bit more runny so it soaks into the felt better. Tim 1961 TR4 #317 -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of riverside@southslope.net Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 10:35 AM To: FOT Subject: [Fot] rear main cap seals I am putting together a motor and have been advised that it is advantageous to replace the bcut up ropeb (still canbt get the image of an elderly lady putting on panty hose out of my mind) with squeezed in silicone sealant. Might a void form unknown to the installer? If the rope is still best, what is the best gunkum with which to soak it. Thanks for the access to your experience. art de armond _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph@fastbytes.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A40592584EDE for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:11:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qg0-f42.google.com (mail-qg0-f42.google.com [209.85.192.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 314902584EB6 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:11:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id e89so5477250qgf.15 for ; Tue, 08 Jul 2014 11:11:18 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=ueVCfY1tK1K2De+JeXRkNACJbSf4nzD3baPc/wRaycw=; b=hEPMk+IPFOyCzPtdCVc4+fvn5B1mmu2Dh61koLXt/CDRVCyov/eyG2EhT6w5bd4cKA sg4+grcwMZvZwhZ2fpvpi3t3bC+Qgu8nrPvgI7LK3VdY7Ac1mItO3TQqC0SqzcHlMTKr m0gNppUYO7PohGwcE404WLtvOMO7ohdL1vrBaMNFfzI7j01bw/n3U0Pj3gnfPTadU9GM ieITuI70Bky0DT4jo8jak7JvzXAI9wF57CIeumJ2QeRVfI3terGuxdk6+NwYlWRjZnhg t7Z88eILHZS4JsntEfa/Xg5PDw1lBf2rK+pFmDtXgM8B93l+3G5MzELr+jJwtqsS7o92 tXDA== s47mr56698715qge.106.1404843070715; Tue, 08 Jul 2014 11:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.212.70 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 11:10:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Kas Kastner Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 11:10:30 -0700 To: FOT Subject: [Fot] rear mail seals Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO I did five pages on this subject with photos in the 4th book, that is the full page version with Tony Drews red TR-4 on the cover.. Race cars, Street Cars, & Special Cars. Starts on page 115. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA87258049A for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 13:52:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72452580403 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 13:48:54 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge01 smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [107.107.185.112] ([107.107.185.112:41074] helo=[10.149.66.198]) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id BD/C6-04540-03B4CB35; Tue, 08 Jul 2014 19:49:07 +0000 References: <8EDC432DFAD04679910383D7EADE3710@rileyPC> From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 14:49:02 -0500 To: "" Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] rear main cap seals Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Don't get hung up on the source of the felt as any felt cut up into small strips, as others have recommended, will work. I was in a pinch, last minute engine assembly, and sent Alison to the thrift store for some felt. She came back with left over Easter bunny baskets made out of felt. Don't laugh, these little bunny baskets are currently holding oil at bay in the Blake fleet. Greg > On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:35 AM, wrote: > > I am putting together a motor and have been advised that it is > advantageous to replace the bcut up ropeb (still canbt get the > image of an elderly lady putting on panty hose out of my > mind) with squeezed in silicone sealant. Might a void form unknown > to the installer? If the rope is still best, what is the best gunkum > with which to soak it. > > Thanks for the access to your experience. > > art de armond > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:40 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F562585637 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 15:14:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp3.pacifier.net (smtp3.pacifier.net [64.255.237.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C504D258051C for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 15:13:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.200.126.61] (mobile-198-228-210-178.mycingular.net [198.228.210.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.pacifier.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 240B538F16; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 14:14:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Wagner" Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 14:13:59 -0700 To: FOT Subject: [Fot] TR4A right fender ,Triumph Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO saw this ad in craigslist... wasn't someone here looking for this fender? http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/pts/4558649690.html _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:40 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39DB32585506 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:41:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m07.mx.aol.com (omr-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DFFF25804C0 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:35:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-aae01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-aae01.mx.aol.com [172.27.1.97]) by omr-m07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id EF03A700000A4 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 18:35:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-aae01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 80E5E380000A0 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 18:35:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 17:35:54 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1404858954; bh=O46dzv7txS8cFbB+aum7I64oy7JxHr+xajyegshNufA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=BYt7LXVb3UMMFp8GvcH2QjNWuIeYQZOdShU5lEaLuGMKJRw7QHde9x9sJuPbeUH1K hvXPw1cj0Fo+VqTz/bSBl0PMWBnL4ufjMaEK7HB5Z+x08c7xRKjGV5uwY0H+X/3DjA MFJBEIDnlNtuq7aFHHXSsb1L9vOkGwJhLA4x3p6k= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b016153bc724a40e6 Subject: [Fot] Looking for 3.27 diff for GT6..... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Guy in WI looking to replace his shelled unit. Can anyone help? Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:40 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2584C2580731 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 08:19:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B2F2580414 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 08:19:14 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: dnvrco-oedge01 smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.70.248] ([107.14.70.248:65282] helo=dnvrco-web05) by dnvrco-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 26/D4-32028-F6F4DB35; Wed, 09 Jul 2014 14:19:27 +0000 Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 14:19:27 +0000 From: To: "" , Greg And Alison Blake Sensitivity: Normal Jul 2014 14:19:27 +0000 a=wAyFwspFC75BjEd6OtOw1g==:117 a=wAyFwspFC75BjEd6OtOw1g==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=WMimlZgUAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=TNm387tNkxA3mctXXncA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=p0idVmGAdl8A:10 Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] rear main cap seals Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Back when I first got into wet liner engines I built my first engine at the machine shop and he coached me through it. He didn't like the felt seals and pulled out a box of specialty rope that was designed for this purpose. I use the felt now, buying extra strips separately so that I can hammer it in tightly, but I suppose any soft, absorbent and stable cloth would do it well. I've been tempted to fill the cavity with silicone but haven't tried it. Bob Kramer rkramer3@austin.rr.com ---- Greg And Alison Blake wrote: > Don't get hung up on the source of the felt as any felt cut up into small > strips, as others have recommended, will work. > > I was in a pinch, last minute engine assembly, and sent Alison to the thrift > store for some felt. She came back with left over Easter bunny baskets made > out of felt. > > Don't laugh, these little bunny baskets are currently holding oil at bay in > the Blake fleet. > > Greg > > > On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:35 AM, wrote: > > > > I am putting together a motor and have been advised that it is > > advantageous to replace the bcut up ropeb (still canbt get the > > image of an elderly lady putting on panty hose out of my > > mind) with squeezed in silicone sealant. Might a void form unknown > > to the installer? If the rope is still best, what is the best gunkum > > with which to soak it. > > > > Thanks for the access to your experience. > > > > art de armond > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:40 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205052580794 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 21:25:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm41.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm41.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.120.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D6425803F9 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 21:25:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm41.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jul 2014 03:25:27 -0000 Received: from [98.138.100.103] by nm41.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jul 2014 03:22:42 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.165] by tm102.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jul 2014 03:22:42 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.247] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jul 2014 03:22:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1018.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jul 2014 03:22:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 59666 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jul 2014 03:22:41 -0000 s=s1024; t=1404962561; bh=X4BHbUHKU7b7YVuaboKx+2nLSJvaxU+3lLL1suAqeI4=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=L30bxkx4VE/fE5oqEvOGJ/w5Cu6X53IYI/1ak7rXC+zHjh4LGzdfcBqAbn0KSI/6AE1MtTCsHZxrZJ0XNjHxUeZ2J8ftiRiia5RR7aHRMRtJM0H7wmUwncZdX3MpFlHFrL+RDl6ORdiHJ0BqHjPRCi0BRm3TlbJcjvaggKXjroM= vcOrS1a4Ih_XwKN4ulimHsyE9TYqPJthpzQTSa5HD5_ADXrzf5MoiGTryVcC QEA59sTAfIe0UyfKSGW3.KogF0tgP4kRrfBnkETUThPOStYHEflXAIf6nUh5 ddTf.vsKUHvNEGpeFIb9DX3sb7yLfNT1sE4g8NC8HAvTW_1Ne36a5g9Hiuc5 dA6NjctxQHKEbhQRhFaq9r7tHlBxndlGj95tzkyEYrux44rt1TRlwlptOS7N 3rDPd4wjbifh0UN7DXhXgDLg.39ukpc1.LchcO8ocEJGDAsYSMIY_o_1.Ym6 VY1.l8hHfhPwqcvfeAc4MSxi3kjCS.cJBKxuMH8V275F1oVyolVfeNmBlHFH 1iRWHl6wP2tcp2.09sEJKBFReSlwQt7xT2mgjaiX1C6VDE8qSVN8ErZH5DlO F6VlHJ8ZRe0hwUExWiIR.L_c5slzubq5aiWbHTjfCp4KJAxu1l1Hs37nrx_k ku8xJfpxBff3b4ZuhNcpH1jmc5lmqwoE9uRqz5DAzBybpUPEnOz1CKAg8Fh7 zZRPfg8deDgcsQIok8ZTyPFunUnDS Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web184705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 09 Jul 2014 20:22:41 PDT R3JvdXA6IEkgcmVjZWl2ZWQgbmV3cyB0b2RheSBmcm9tIGFub3RoZXIgbGlzdCB0aGF0IFN0YWhsIGhlYWRlcnMgaXMgZ29pbmcgb3V0IG9mIGJ1c2luZXNzLiBBcyB0aGVpciBmbHllciBzYWlkLCAiZXZlcnkgcmVkdWNlZCBhbmQgZXZlcnl0aGluZyBtdXN0IGdvIi4gRm9yIHRob3NlIG5lYXIgWW9yaywgUEEuIFN0YWhsIGlzIGhhdmluZyBhIHlhcmQgc2FsZSB0aGlzIEZyaWRheSBhbmQgU2F0dXJkYXkuIE90aGVycyBjYW4gY2FsbCBvciBnbyB0byB0aGVpciB3ZWJzaXRlLgotRWQtATABAQEB Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 20:22:41 -0700 From: EDWARD BARNARD To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Stahl going out of business Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Group: I received news today from another list that Stahl headers is going out of business. As their flyer said, "every reduced and everything must go". For those near York, PA. Stahl is having a yard sale this Friday and Saturday. Others can call or go to their website. -Ed- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6691E2580971 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:59:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from spamkiller.fastbytes.com (spamkiller.fastbytes.com [192.200.141.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 815C125807A7 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:59:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mercury.fastbytes.com [192.200.141.198] by spamkiller.fastbytes.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.00) id A499A50014A; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 12:59:53 -0500 Received: from TimDellVostro [192.200.136.236] by mercury.fastbytes.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-8.22) id A4B40BE8; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:00:20 -0500 From: "Tim Murphy" To: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 12:59:29 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac+awmN1B2AgiC6fTWCBAR7Zv7LkvAAElSRAAGT7A0A= Content-Language: en-us Organization: FastBytesWireless Inc. Subject: [Fot] FW: rear main cap seals Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO -----Original Message----- From: Tim Murphy [mailto:timmurph@fastbytes.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 1:00 PM To: 'riverside@southslope.net'; 'FOT' Subject: RE: [Fot] rear main cap seals A key thing that has not been discussed so far is fitting the aluminum piece to the block using the correct size mandrel so that it is accurately centered on the crank. Joe A. sells these that are the correct size and I think the Moss ones are now the correct size. The early ones (circa 2008) were not the correct size and I had to turn my mandrel down to get the correct fit. (As I recall there was an error in the Triumph Workshop Manual dimension.) I've used Hylomar sealant on the split of the aluminum piece with good results. I made the trapezoidal punches out of brass and hammer them in using about a 2 lb regular hammer. When the felt starts oozing out between the bearing block and engine block, I know I'm good. I use the Permatex Indian Head Gasket Shellac with good results and do as Tony says. Lately I've been heating it up in the microwave a bit to make it a bit more runny so it soaks into the felt better. Tim 1961 TR4 #317 -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of riverside@southslope.net Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 10:35 AM To: FOT Subject: [Fot] rear main cap seals I am putting together a motor and have been advised that it is advantageous to replace the bcut up ropeb (still canbt get the image of an elderly lady putting on panty hose out of my mind) with squeezed in silicone sealant. Might a void form unknown to the installer? If the rope is still best, what is the best gunkum with which to soak it. Thanks for the access to your experience. art de armond _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph@fastbytes.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFECA25808D9 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 12:19:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (isis.mit.edu [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84DD2580998 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 12:15:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s6AIFm0l016965; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:15:48 -0400 Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:15:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: marty References: Cc: =?utf-8?Q?FOT?= Subject: Re: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Small_Bore_Racers?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Hi, I haven't read this whole thread, so forgive me if I'm beating a dead horse. As a point of information, the SCCA Solo is now proposing dumping G Prepared (where Spitefires are presently competing) and moving rear-drive cars to D Prepared. I find the proposed rules change to be curious in that the base intent was to fix a problem that allowed a certain dead-ringer car to be the to be had car for E Prepared (presently the Dorsey Toyota and formerly a couple of really awesomely prepared Mazda rotary-powered sedans (RX-3's, I think)). But I wanted to make two points that I didn't see covered in the thread so far. 1. There's competitive and there's competitive. I happen to run my TR6 totally outclassed by the performance potential of other cars in the class. I don't beyatch about it. I just run there. I pick my own targets and base my "success" on my relative performance to MY benchmark. 2. I think Triumphs are kool. Just because I think that way, doesn't mean that others think so. But I also find the same level of passion with folks that run all sorts of different cars - including some that are fairly successful. And although it's rare, I still get some really kool compliments on my car and I find that immensely satisfying. The overall point, though, is that if you have a car - ANY car - and you want somewhere to play, SCCA probably has a place where you can play. Don't get over-worked up about the politics or the rules. Just go out and try to have fun. When it is not fun, do something about it or bail. Easy as that. I'm not going to lie, driving a 40 year old car at 10 / 10 th's is a freakin hoot. And to the comments regarding reliability, if you dial back your preparation in the name of reliability, you can have fun for a long time with your Triumph. And it's fairly inexpensive to do so. But if you start cranking up the performance knobs, you're going to break stuff and there goes your reliability. Just sayin. Regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C521C258451D for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:37:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth05.mfg.siteprotect.com (smtpauth15.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A542580A59 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:36:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [172.16.58.64] (unknown [74.124.40.40]) (Authenticated sender: don@dcphotos.com) by smtpauth05.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 285781232848B for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 15:36:34 -0500 (CDT) From: "don@dcphotos.com" Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 15:36:26 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: [Fot] videos and more... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Greetings All, Havent posted in years but I recently purchased a ready to race Spitfire from Bobby Whitehead. Needs a bit of work but not too much, so I imagine Ill be posting a lot more now. In the meantime, I do have one request. Since I wont be able to race it till next year, could/would you guys PLEASE post more of your "in-car" race videos! I find it helps pass the time till I can get on track. Thanks so much, Don DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY (512)-680-3540 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA02258449B for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:54:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DEF92580A55 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:54:08 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: dnvrco-oedge01 smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.70.248] ([107.14.70.248:23544] helo=dnvrco-web05) by dnvrco-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 90/D3-32028-E7DFEB35; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:54:22 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:54:22 +0000 From: To: fot@autox.team.net, "don@dcphotos.com" Sensitivity: Normal Jul 2014 20:54:22 +0000 a=wAyFwspFC75BjEd6OtOw1g==:117 a=wAyFwspFC75BjEd6OtOw1g==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=jg3HEQBO-5oA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=obSM17EiAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=xI9ER3wRfpVLTvHyuV4A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=BdaaPe7F_SsA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=X564sPHbHxsA:10 Subject: Re: [Fot] videos and more... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO What, I've already shared too many secrets :) Bob Kramer rkramer3@austin.rr.com ---- "don@dcphotos.com" wrote: > Greetings All, > Havent posted in years but I recently purchased a ready to race Spitfire > from Bobby Whitehead. > Needs a bit of work but not too much, so I imagine Ill be posting a lot more > now. > > In the meantime, I do have one request. Since I wont be able to race it till > next year, could/would > you guys PLEASE post more of your "in-car" race videos! I find it helps pass > the time till I can get on track. > Thanks so much, > Don > > > > > > DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY > (512)-680-3540 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0402E2580A7E for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 15:46:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642E02580A55 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 15:46:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.71]) by qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id QkWb1o0021Y3wxoA4lmhKU; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 21:46:41 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-208v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.176.218]) by omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Qlmh1o00K4j68Km8blmh2D; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 21:46:41 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 21:46:39 +0000 (UTC) From: toodamnfunky@comcast.net To: fot (Win)/8.0.3_GA_5664) Thread-Topic: Live axle tr4's, what to do for axles now ? Thread-Index: MHU4j7s3uEQxdp5nTErUv93yDCMIYQ== s=q20140121; t=1405028801; bh=Wlwz9J/BTWQYeBfsp216Oxl9Pz/DVvoa+V5yqxER3cM=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=A6wXqUwhDcyVBmGFVAsOJ9oLQne6/vsHM5OHgw8nRO9PpwO0QT8dJsH6XCT2qVfc9 dSE2NCsCWhhLU37STr5HSGh5pi5zmEYo9cSrQjLslRAFCWxLRaL09EVmgQdmBnWm0j 1s336tuCFQ1VSbeJIRmhZRoGxYnR3zz3j5c/xTUN7R/mwYrCXsOOzUwG/00WeJZ7H5 bj0L0cmS1Pznhg3/WLh9mtx1LHSPsYpLqhyzOI8akS1u8+I8ou1poRyg4cnuK3JKPT xC0deW5m1ur2G1Y6MfENpktx5qZgF+rfibuNUY0vHni1Utfn12Ui9dcwWsdujQB58f ck3pHwsV8YzhA== Subject: [Fot] Live axle tr4's, what to do for axles now ? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO FoT, I know someone preparing a live axle TR4 to go racing next year and since Southwick closed he doesn't know what to do for axles. Are Ford axles the answer ? I read somewhere the TR4A live axle is stronger, true ? Jim g _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F3225844D1 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:19:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590F32580BC2 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:19:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from new-host.home (pool-71-162-132-246.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [71.162.132.246]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0N8I008LFZSM2240@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 02:19:38 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-07-11_01:2014-07-10,2014-07-11,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=18 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1407110028 From: Scott Janzen Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 22:19:05 -0400 References: <1221906426.19282402.1405028799764.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Live axle tr4's, what to do for axles now ? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO so, here's a copy of a thread from a while back, written by John Styduher and Tony Drews. You can buy the parts Southwick used, cut the axle housing, and have someone weld on the bearing retainers, and for a lot less money and shipping costs. > My "copycat" Southwick conversion on a TR3 rear axle uses the 9" small Ford > housing ends (the housing ID for the sealed bearing is 2.835"). The last > step on the housing end is removed and then fit perfectly over the axle > tube (2.25"OD) for welding. The Ford axle housing fits right up against > the small locating tab which located the outer leaf spring u-bolt, so > orientation for track width is easy. Moser engineering sells the 24-spline > axles for $370.00, bearings and wedding band retainers installed for > $75.00, and they can drill the stud holes on a 4x4.5 pattern for whatever > wheel stud knurl diameter you are using. Make sure to have them drill an > access hole in the flange to make it easy to install and remove the axle > without taking the brakes apart. Same setup for TR4 but longer axles as > you TR4 guys and gals already know. Like Tony mentioned, the brake backing > plates will need to be modified for the 4-bolt bearing retainer (backing > plate ID needs to be enlarged slightly to slip over the bearing and the 4 > mounting holes for the C-shaped retainer need to be drilled). As another > patron mentioned, you can mock everything up and do your welding in situ. > While your welding, go ahead and weld the axle tubes to the pumpkin for > stiffening. > > > On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > >> The stock design solid axle will flex in the tapered portion where the hub >> is pressed on. The car I rolled had stock design axles but made out of >> very good steel and stock design hubs also made out of very good steel. >> They were manufactured so that the "stress risers" were removed, but under >> load the axle, about 1/3 of the way inboard of the outer nut, starts to >> flex. You can see the fretting inside the hub where that happens. It >> bends over and over until it breaks. >> >> The "Southwick Rear Axle Conversion" uses Ford 8" axles that are cut down >> in length and re-splined for the TR-differential. The outer end of the >> axle tube is cut off and the outboard end of a Ford 8" axle tube is welded >> on. It is possible that someone sells just that outer end of the axle >> tube. The backing plates are machined in the center to have a larger >> diameter hole and holes are drilled for the 4 bolts which hold the axle >> bearing into the housing. >> >> These axles are a one piece design - the hub / flange is part of the axle >> shaft. The outer bearing is pressed on and an inner retainer is pressed on >> to hold the bearing in place. It is a sealed bearing, so acts as the >> bearing AND the outer seal. There is an o-ring which goes around the >> outside of the bearing to seal that area too. > On Jul 10, 2014, at 5:46 PM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: FoT, I know someone preparing a live axle TR4 to go racing next year and since Southwick closed he doesn't know what to do for axles. Are Ford axles the answer ? I read somewhere the TR4A live axle is stronger, true ? Jim g _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB6D258069D for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 05:12:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A7D258069D for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 05:12:00 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge03 smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [107.107.185.112] ([107.107.185.112:46381] helo=[10.149.66.198]) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 10/0A-11986-E86CFB35; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 11:12:15 +0000 References: <1221906426.19282402.1405028799764.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 06:12:09 -0500 To: "toodamnfunky@comcast.net" Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Live axle tr4's, what to do for axles now ? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO When did Southwick close? Dad sent them an axle about a month ago and has been talking to someone up there that is preparing a TR4 axle setup for him, at least that's what we think. > On Jul 10, 2014, at 4:46 PM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: > > FoT, > I know someone preparing a live axle TR4 to go racing next year and since Southwick closed he doesn't know what to do for axles. Are Ford axles the answer ? I read somewhere the TR4A live axle is stronger, true ? > Jim g > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C17D82584579 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 05:54:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4952584449 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 05:54:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.76]) by qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Qzuj1o0031eYJf8ADzuk3x; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 11:54:44 +0000 Received: from [10.38.55.214] ([166.147.82.49]) by omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id QzuV1o00213qzou01zuXHJ; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 11:54:41 +0000 References: <1221906426.19282402.1405028799764.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <4EAA1A90-6988-4473-BA35-A5DB275060F2@austin.rr.com> From: Jim Gray Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 05:54:27 -0600 To: Greg And Alison Blake s=q20140121; t=1405079684; bh=sn3QZNRHS8E+TY8iU71eBQhiYL5WicT64OwfLAAifTE=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=m5ppSXgCno5l+/YYJyRHJC288zmvUOuJ7DP6Zo5ByU78e8YXEmzhzspLWBmsasMWb c1U8NKQ3rXmKyM/krH7xNIKT/u3+HbIKYq3Bl/nH3f19LLOT93aeRgyUACiDW5Kvn6 j3m8wf8tHbyFPgQCCG29cCtmRoPbcBnuR2qQgtjO+ODYMyYpRAIY5+NUB/XNVirMfF SE3OcLgihD8t4pG/35Et/JmZnM6UypPK5sw7UdJBPOgGPYSXNIgR6nGRuHn1TkIe0s oLi2nzp5LGHQwhXl3o/3ITQQqRuabS50TGn7XTtNhCYV03fKKHqktUv8MsDfv6I2S2 IZpe1LBzyNa6A== Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Live axle tr4's, what to do for axles now ? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Maybe I was misinformed. I was asked for advice on axles and I was told they closed. Jim Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2014, at 5:12 AM, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: > When did Southwick close? > > Dad sent them an axle about a month ago and has been talking to someone up there that is preparing a TR4 axle setup for him, at least that's what we think. > >> On Jul 10, 2014, at 4:46 PM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: >> >> FoT, >> I know someone preparing a live axle TR4 to go racing next year and since Southwick closed he doesn't know what to do for axles. Are Ford axles the answer ? I read somewhere the TR4A live axle is stronger, true ? >> Jim g >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD8A25845EB for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 08:00:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d08.mx.aol.com (omr-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.207]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D9D2580318 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 07:59:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mbb01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mbb01.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.111]) by omr-d08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E2416700443C3; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 09:59:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mle005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mle005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.126.210]) by mtaomg-mbb01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id A822738000081; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 09:59:55 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 09:59:55 -0400 (EDT) To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net, ablake2@austin.rr.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1405087195; bh=Dfdwxj83n+ajP6Z98JauWiH+O39ugeB8+eSM0t/wZ60=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OUK5rCXvGR0tVA3vHz02NueO+GZHj0a9qBsZDDfMYaqPoZ8sykuCO09u12kZdrRPz CO+A86HsGM2miWILhQMFN/of/tUea5xQ48dZG6MoxCrycVt8lW1z2xP9N4SIBSNmmE qcYMwXCw9ZYg7nkO2A/ltaxH0aneSF4jFuT0XLsc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afe6f53bfeddb181c Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Live axle tr4's, what to do for axles now ? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO In a message dated 07/11/2014 6:54:57 AM Central Daylight Time, toodamnfunky@comcast.net writes: > Maybe I was misinformed. I was asked for advice on axles and I was told > they > closed. > Amici... I'm old, and forget whether I had breakfast or not, until I look in the mirror, but seems to me I remember Jack (or Tony) saying that Southwick was shutting down his commercial operations, but would continue to do axles for us in his garage (probably for beer money in his retirement). That's what I recall. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:42 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DDC825807FA for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 10:45:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f178.google.com (mail-pd0-f178.google.com [209.85.192.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24EC525800B9 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 10:44:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f178.google.com with SMTP id r10so3028215pdi.9 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 09:44:49 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=dHhHWpniQIEcdxyZA898kPHuhDG1ab0qfwcGAzLNGJo=; b=SJB6zu+FzwPgwxSnRYMoag9M+MmSMZk/dHkyZKrbTcYi+lmhW2cOSRcJbOb5DVKRrQ bFCiyWtwjqm22jAsky2avq8XyTUUpjxOZzQQuFAd3VijkYkPa6bTC9YGmq+etGHZeobT cEM3FwwdWniB7f8N4spdXIuguMvKnWBMiLHG8AzpnMbWPnB3G6IUtAVzCAGpuRKsV67+ kK+qYV0bjTKVQuiizpbxN9U1u37pcD1S5vCdhQpwBBIvBEK4bZzkiHjVRpkMiEVCrjiU qiJtojY2Q+2bjjnV26gDSpB0d0UUIssrV74FOQ+xlU9Dp12PRoNHlEU7dxBAq3ZEOfyz HyRQ== zd4mr6159272pbb.54.1405183489602; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 09:44:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.91.164 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 09:44:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 11:44:49 -0500 From: Jerry Poole To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Denso Alternators Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO I would appreciate any information on the Denso series of alternators that would work with the 1500 Spitfire. Is the unit being used from the Chevy Sprint series. (25-30 AMP), or is the Kubota based tractor/mower series being used? ( Have seen both suggested on forum sites). Could any one please provide a part number or year model for the Chevy Series if that is what would be needed? Prefer single wire but would be OK with a 3 wire. Thanks for any information, insight and your time. Jerry _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:42 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230DA258463A for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 13:10:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from michel.telenet-ops.be (michel.telenet-ops.be [195.130.137.88]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE744258450E for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 13:10:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([141.134.4.155]) by michel.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id RXAc1o0053LgakV06XAfTz; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 21:10:39 +0200 From: "Marcel Van Mulders" To: Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 21:10:33 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac+d8KhliKMSexKmTyGAH+bhiythzgAE3huAAAAzpFA= Subject: [Fot] FW: Denso Alternators Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Marcel Van Mulders [mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be] Verzonden: zaterdag 12 juli 2014 21:10 Aan: 'Jerry Poole' Onderwerp: RE: [Fot] Denso Alternators The 3 wire Denso has # 1247601ND, the Kubota # of the same alternator is Kubota 16231-24011 (40 amp) With a 1 wire alternator, the ign. Warning light doesn't work. 3 wires : 1 wire is ignition switch 12V, 1 wire is ign. Warning light and the 3rd wire is straight to the Battery or, for the racers, to the BATTERY SIDE of the battery isolator switch. If the 3rd wire is coupled to the other side of the isolator switch, your car will Stay running with the switch in the OFF position. Marcel -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens Jerry Poole Verzonden: zaterdag 12 juli 2014 18:45 Aan: fot@autox.team.net Onderwerp: [Fot] Denso Alternators I would appreciate any information on the Denso series of alternators that would work with the 1500 Spitfire. Is the unit being used from the Chevy Sprint series. (25-30 AMP), or is the Kubota based tractor/mower series being used? ( Have seen both suggested on forum sites). Could any one please provide a part number or year model for the Chevy Series if that is what would be needed? Prefer single wire but would be OK with a 3 wire. Thanks for any information, insight and your time. Jerry _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:42 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C1E258468B for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 14:26:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f44.google.com (mail-oa0-f44.google.com [209.85.219.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B64082580763 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 14:24:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id eb12so2695478oac.17 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 13:25:02 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Xnu3IKl7I7RydGXF9ctsbFooaT62Di4zFKb90dhwNkw=; b=sb6+pPk5m7rWymBFgKKjqfVGtpyIOnAUAC9kfZKfU7C0wkKdxIemKDNd9YP5zXJNmB b7ALMiVXtZBLULEy8Teg+OnIGaWg1zbRA1/XIJJhcPS+rMEnhClVY3bkSWoq6NRvUpB2 Nij1E/9MUSQrJxVIPREynQRt3iIdfe419laIDYQ3gXbYZqCtypmYpli2SZycZePhHcVM ZTyGTb/EoPi9tzwqLpcxFpv7lvJ/3jLs2EyeneJJhoejZa4EDbyVQSWVub/zLd6zBNPx 9vjefwVd73aLY4dkSKaymU0VnyShX+u0v+FYqmxCO15ak+wTylzCOiNHzMBepZFMsour SOrg== b15mr998268oez.49.1405196702445; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 13:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.7.102 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 13:25:02 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 15:25:02 -0500 From: Duncan Charlton To: Marcel Van Mulders Cc: Friends of triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] FW: Denso Alternators Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO I have one of these tiny 14 to 20 amp alternators on my Kubota BX tractor: *http://tinyurl.com/laoxyc6 . * Dimensions are about 3" X 3". *Duncan* On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Marcel Van Mulders < van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be> wrote: > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Marcel Van Mulders [mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be] > Verzonden: zaterdag 12 juli 2014 21:10 > Aan: 'Jerry Poole' > Onderwerp: RE: [Fot] Denso Alternators > > The 3 wire Denso has # 1247601ND, the Kubota # of the same alternator is > Kubota 16231-24011 (40 amp) With a 1 wire alternator, the ign. Warning > light > doesn't work. 3 wires : 1 wire is ignition switch 12V, 1 wire is ign. > Warning light and the 3rd wire is straight to the Battery or, for the > racers, to the BATTERY SIDE of the battery isolator switch. If the 3rd wire > is coupled to the other side of the isolator switch, your car will Stay > running with the switch in the OFF position. > Marcel > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens Jerry Poole > Verzonden: zaterdag 12 juli 2014 18:45 > Aan: fot@autox.team.net > Onderwerp: [Fot] Denso Alternators > > I would appreciate any information on the Denso series of alternators that > would work with the 1500 Spitfire. Is the unit being used from the Chevy > Sprint series. (25-30 AMP), or is the Kubota based tractor/mower series > being used? ( Have seen both suggested on forum sites). Could any one > please provide a part number or year model for the Chevy Series if that is > what would be needed? Prefer single wire but would be OK with a 3 wire. > Thanks for any information, insight and your time. Jerry > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4600F258046F for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2014 15:07:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC2S29.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s29.hotmail.com [65.55.111.104]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3167025802EE for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2014 15:07:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU180-W19 ([65.55.111.73]) by BLU004-OMC2S29.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Sun, 13 Jul 2014 14:07:27 -0700 From: Chuck WATSON To: FOT List Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 17:07:26 -0400 FILETIME=[733E6130:01CF9EDE] Subject: [Fot] Master Cylinder Advice Needed GT6 / TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO FOT - I need to select brake and clutch MC's for the GT6 build now. Not sure if I should be going with stock sizing or if racing brakes and clutch requirements make a difference in bore, etc. I have a Tilton overhung pedal set with brake bias bar. Here are the other "knowns": Brake Setup Stock front calipers (rebuilt) Upgraded lines, pads, rotors...but stock configuration Need dual master cylinders Clutch Setup (on a TR6 gearbox) Spec Clutch stage 3 Early Land Rover slave cylinder on a Sprint/Dolomite bracket. Is anyone running something similar enough to offer a starting point for the MC needs? Or can someone shed light on the way to determine the correct MC sizing? Thanks, Chuck Watson _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD932580609 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 08:30:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEEED2580451 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 08:30:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id tp5so3312420ieb.14 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 07:30:37 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date:content-type :mime-version; bh=axB8s6O4Tz1U27CJ7ailyqzGLqqwemq9jJZs5RqQ3zw=; b=aMkOIwwvhDzYcd3Fxtd6F1la8Fnhdyb+blJXIG6Yb1ZNSntIfUBNKcI4suhu5lP9MG tmfaMUugvzgZ/81t+LjX5iP+pV73ajcQv+nVH9q9VkyXoEKAb28g/Q0AlHaJCXG0baLJ YQHjoeyWtQVuCr2ezAWk0P43W3fRPZoRyBVtONEj10QtaIp2wYT/xANu4QIPNeZ2XBux V12b2LkgBThuGL+oC1GXd7a4ad3ZeGQZVYTLQ13JJVZ9nB62cJYQqNqcKInzl8rhnKqI kFiXw6KMmT4ff0zALuf8cYq3PI1+sfNgTbHnO9EwldUw4KYCfs4JDm9ofPkUKkdgrjTj 087A== lx3mr8874801icc.58.1405348237211; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 07:30:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.189 (bda-74-82-80-182.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qa4sm25296330igb.10.2014.07.14.07.30.35 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 14 Jul 2014 07:30:36 -0700 (PDT) Sensitivity: Normal To: "Chuck WATSON" ,"Fot" ,"FOT List" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:30:36 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] Master Cylinder Advice Needed GT6 / TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO With the tilton balance bar set up you have, two regular Girling 8515 masters with the bar between; and the same Girling master for the clutch. Works very well and allows all the brakes you need. The original stock brake setup with a set of p16 calipers and a good set of race pads and always fresh LMA fluid is a fine race brake kit that will allow you to out brake just about anyone out there. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing ------Original Message------ From: Chuck WATSON To: FOT List Subject: [Fot] Master Cylinder Advice Needed GT6 / TR6 Sent: Jul 13, 2014 4:07 PM FOT - I need to select brake and clutch MC's for the GT6 build now. Not sure if I should be going with stock sizing or if racing brakes and clutch requirements make a difference in bore, etc. I have a Tilton overhung pedal set with brake bias bar. Here are the other "knowns": Brake Setup Stock front calipers (rebuilt) Upgraded lines, pads, rotors...but stock configuration Need dual master cylinders Clutch Setup (on a TR6 gearbox) Spec Clutch stage 3 Early Land Rover slave cylinder on a Sprint/Dolomite bracket. Is anyone running something similar enough to offer a starting point for the MC needs? Or can someone shed light on the way to determine the correct MC sizing? Thanks, Chuck Watson _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58028258069C for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 08:40:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9512580409 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 08:40:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.99.34] (c-76-99-23-134.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [76.99.23.134]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0N8P001QNI3IPQ30@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:40:33 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-07-14_01:2014-07-14,2014-07-14,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1407140166 From: Scott Janzen Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 10:41:08 -0400 References: <20140714143029.077C52580409@autox.team.net> To: Chuck WATSON Cc: FOT List Subject: Re: [Fot] Master Cylinder Advice Needed GT6 / TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO I was using the same thing - recently switched the brake cylinders to the compact Tilton units (75 series). They fit in the same bulkhead space as the girlings. I checked with Tilton about mounting the reservoirs at an angle and they said no problem - even at the mounting angle, the plastic reservoirs hold about twice as much as the Girlings do. I also went to a 0.70" bore for the front brake circuit - a little harder pedal feel, and the larger master moves more fluid volume as is required for the front disc calipers vs the rear drums. On Jul 14, 2014, at 10:30 AM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: With the tilton balance bar set up you have, two regular Girling 8515 masters with the bar between; and the same Girling master for the clutch. Works very well and allows all the brakes you need. The original stock brake setup with a set of p16 calipers and a good set of race pads and always fresh LMA fluid is a fine race brake kit that will allow you to out brake just about anyone out there. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing ------Original Message------ From: Chuck WATSON To: FOT List Subject: [Fot] Master Cylinder Advice Needed GT6 / TR6 Sent: Jul 13, 2014 4:07 PM FOT - I need to select brake and clutch MC's for the GT6 build now. Not sure if I should be going with stock sizing or if racing brakes and clutch requirements make a difference in bore, etc. I have a Tilton overhung pedal set with brake bias bar. Here are the other "knowns": Brake Setup Stock front calipers (rebuilt) Upgraded lines, pads, rotors...but stock configuration Need dual master cylinders Clutch Setup (on a TR6 gearbox) Spec Clutch stage 3 Early Land Rover slave cylinder on a Sprint/Dolomite bracket. Is anyone running something similar enough to offer a starting point for the MC needs? Or can someone shed light on the way to determine the correct MC sizing? Thanks, Chuck Watson _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F44B25848A2 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 16:15:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC2S12.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s12.hotmail.com [65.55.111.87]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92CF25806A5 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 16:11:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU180-W88 ([65.55.111.73]) by BLU004-OMC2S12.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Mon, 14 Jul 2014 15:11:44 -0700 From: Chuck WATSON To: Scott Janzen Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 18:11:43 -0400 References: <20140714143029.077C52580409@autox.team.net>, FILETIME=[98AF4EC0:01CF9FB0] Cc: FOT List Subject: Re: [Fot] Master Cylinder Advice Needed GT6 / TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Thanks for the advice guys. Looking forward to joining you on the track. Thanks, Chuck Watson Subject: Re: [Fot] Master Cylinder Advice Needed GT6 / TR6 From: sjanzen@me.com Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 10:41:08 -0400 CC: fot@autox.team.net; jason@multivintage.com To: clw2000@msn.com I was using the same thing - recently switched the brake cylinders to the compact Tilton units (75 series). They fit in the same bulkhead space as the girlings. I checked with Tilton about mounting the reservoirs at an angle and they said no problem - even at the mounting angle, the plastic reservoirs hold about twice as much as the Girlings do.I also went to a 0.70" bore for the front brake circuit - a little harder pedal feel, and the larger master moves more fluid volume as is required for the front disc calipers vs the rear drums. On Jul 14, 2014, at 10:30 AM, jason@multivintage.com wrote:With the tilton balance bar set up you have, two regular Girling 8515 masters with the bar between; and the same Girling master for the clutch. Works very well and allows all the brakes you need. The original stock brake setup with a set of p16 calipers and a good set of race pads and always fresh LMA fluid is a fine race brake kit that will allow you to out brake just about anyone out there. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing ------Original Message------ From: Chuck WATSON To: FOT List Subject: [Fot] Master Cylinder Advice Needed GT6 / TR6 Sent: Jul 13, 2014 4:07 PM FOT - I need to select brake and clutch MC's for the GT6 build now. Not sure if I should be going with stock sizing or if racing brakes and clutch requirements make a difference in bore, etc. I have a Tilton overhung pedal set with brake bias bar. Here are the other "knowns": Brake Setup Stock front calipers (rebuilt) Upgraded lines, pads, rotors...but stock configuration Need dual master cylinders Clutch Setup (on a TR6 gearbox) Spec Clutch stage 3 Early Land Rover slave cylinder on a Sprint/Dolomite bracket. Is anyone running something similar enough to offer a starting point for the MC needs? Or can someone shed light on the way to determine the correct MC sizing? Thanks, Chuck Watson _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1978525848C1 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 16:29:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f172.google.com (mail-we0-f172.google.com [74.125.82.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA0525806A5 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 16:28:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-we0-f172.google.com with SMTP id x48so2969051wes.3 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 15:29:06 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=zVBs/ip1ZNHjO98DKhc9xYz8SpPhrM7VUQDs2L/ZyZM=; b=MzQURorPsRPD2kj6Nsjr8gO+IcRgPe93jM+5S9J958p0v2jOXoaIZLelhGGEo4esHj fg7b0nUa1x4cSeiMuF9toA+omZMoYg4rNKr3lKnX4t7Cc4uv2t2728BCMfgCBoxs5nXs EBrbYcj2cOcOqxJY3kt0GFSUrHyGs16wQY8FHSw0XfWTm6tqq8RVHqmcYFqNgIum16QF Wqls9DeUwjrp1KgP5k6mUkg+bf/zRK1dLFBxvs0MA8G/grnDhdMneSoV8tWiReQRl8SD 9RCyq7S+nHRw/zgE9d6CPHdwn7WKMw6jGEs8QbubcZUUrCjaz7qjXBs5yv7l5cBUOOLe xxoQ== ch4mr22324387wjb.59.1405376945835; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 15:29:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home (ip-109-85-231-192.web.vodafone.de. [109.85.231.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id eh10sm31317814wic.0.2014.07.14.15.29.04 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 14 Jul 2014 15:29:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'fot'" References: <58364013.19277008.1405028249125.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <1221906426.19282402.1405028799764.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 00:28:23 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac+fsuxEkPbA+ifkQ3u8G0IMtnfbGA== Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Live axle tr4's, what to do for axles now ? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO I just broke the left axle this weekend and nearly flipped the car. In this case the axle broke in middle of the roller bearing position. Never had heard of that way braking and this is difficult to check, because you need to pull the bearing ring off. Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von toodamnfunky@comcast.net Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. Juli 2014 23:47 An: fot Betreff: [Fot] Live axle tr4's, what to do for axles now ? FoT, I know someone preparing a live axle TR4 to go racing next year and since Southwick closed he doesn't know what to do for axles. Are Ford axles the answer ? I read somewhere the TR4A live axle is stronger, true ? Jim g _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 496C225848B1 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 18:32:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f52.google.com (mail-oa0-f52.google.com [209.85.219.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8AE2580803 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 18:32:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id o6so3163327oag.39 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 17:32:44 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=a8tY6AdZUQUo9Wju6vwjFc59FHtyMaRNJmC+CLNjax0=; b=RiMvPAS/yJKRaREZOms1uUuQdwFan9zqtFZ7Nem0BAEEj/pmN3ar3v5ENp7jlPS4d0 oHf4Og/DBt9YWefmGKQfSYSNjwuChKXfhyXLvuSuT+kc3ubGe/trtsINRUGmqe4BMNND qIdWN7dIi5dQOjBDdRo2GC3QyGLzV/9ZgwJR+v+W3V6TU7GJ8lnuvwD/LWSmE4Cs0pZS 7Fc6EgwGVqv3GkmEkm7fXza09NNy++LS78uVkTktasnR/oVFjOk0l7JzCvkCzYQPQxai PRqYp7MhO2O1i1DqwHhz9U4vKbRkaHSMcoNPAVpawwMBAG4jm8oOwPb3S/Fh19E6TLGo D5KQ== yp5mr21751550oeb.59.1405384364042; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 17:32:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.78.138 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 17:32:43 -0700 (PDT) References: <36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB02DA2349DA90@TITAN.dwholdings.local> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 19:32:43 -0500 From: Mike Jankowski To: Edward Dunn Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Small Bore Racers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO I rarely weigh in, but this is one of those times I feel the need to. Warning, this will be lengthy. First, let's deal with SCCA track racing. Simply put, our cars aren't that competitive anymore. They can be pretty good, but the limits of the technology they are based on, well, has limits. A Spitfire can be fast, but as said before, how durable is the engine? Now throw in the Miata. Those aren't any cheaper. A good front running Miata will cost you about 40-48k to build plus the cost of the donor car. If you want an NA or NB donor, those are drying up fast for cheap ones. They've already been snapped up for SM, all the SCCA classes, etc. I happen to know the owner and one of the mechanics at one of the best MX-5/Miata shops in the nation, and when they say that, I tend to believe it. Also, most of those race prepped engines get about half a season from them, then you're in for another or a rebuild, either way minimum buy in is another 7-15k. As to the SCCA being concerned with making money and not being a club anymore, well, reality check: on the East coast it was that way in the late 50's already. Also, the SCCA has dwindling numbers overall due to ineptitude and also the expense, thus the sprouting up of NASA, Chump, LeMons, et al. But that's not the issue for this list, it's why are there fewer of our cars outside of vintage racing? Some of our cars are too valuable to risk in SCCA racing, either emotionally or financially. A big part is the rules allowances for our cars haven't been updated in years. This leads me to another SCCA issue: Autocross. As you are aware, GP is going away in autocross. I say good. There are many reasons for this. The top running cars can be competitive in other classes. Maybe not winners, but definitely will get on stage. Also, as fewer and fewer of cars of our vintage were campaigned, there weren't enough results and data to recalculate PAX, as well as address the rules. A great example is the Spitfire 1500. It would be required to run with a single ZS carb or take a weight hit. Yet in FSP I can run whatever carbs I want, and I have no minimum weight. So why go to the trouble of building a GP car when I can do FSP so much easier? Furthermore, GP did nothing to help itself over the last few years. 2011 having the class winners break parc ferme rules and cheat put the crosshairs squarely on the class from the SEB. Then the entire boycott in protest this past year was the nail in the coffin. Per a good friend who is on the SEB "when you get mad and throw a 3rd grade temper tantrum and don't show up, resulting in sparse attendance for the class, you're asking for the axe. Especially when if they had shown up, we could have used the delta in the performance data to address changing the class rules. Good thinking on their part." Now, for some of the interesting parts. I run a 1978 Spitfire 1500 in FSP in my club. I won the class last year. One thing I found was that my entry and apex speeds were higher than a national caliber 99 MX-5/driver combo. I lost ALL my time from the exit to the entry of the next turn, and the next, etc. One thing bandied about has been to give GP cars big weight reductions and allow them to run in DP. My friend on the SEB asked me what kind of weight and induction allowances they should make. I advised on setting very low weight limits for a 1500 and allowing any carbs the owner wanted. The rest of the rules allow for us to build a suspension that is legal and competitive imo. Also, the issue of wheel and tire size arose. Is the lack of our cars being in more mainstream racing due to the above, or due to lack of interest as stated elsewhere in this thread? I doubt there is a lack of interest. I can't go anywhere in my Spitfire without someone saying they had one, had a friend or relative with one, or they had a Fiat, or MG, or who knows what other 2 seat Euro car. I think that many people not only don't know how to get involved with racing, but how to even find one of our cars for sale that is race ready. Unless you're in the racing community, there is no way to really get that info. I think outreach might be a good idea. These are my observations. But what do I know? I'm just a 42 year old guy who had worked on and been around these cars his entire life, as well as various facets of racing. Oddly enough, I seem to be asked regularly about where to get these cars and how to get started racing them. Go figure. Mike On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Edward Dunn wrote: > As has already been said, folks tend to like cars that were cool when they > were at that coming of age time, teen years. At 56, I'm considered a fairly > young MG TD owner. In my case, that sweet spot for cars is right around > 1970. > How many younger folks do you see interested in Model A's, Packards, etc. > Not > many. > > I think the future for racing any MG, Triumph, Morgan, etc. is in vintage. > Even then, I see the huge Huffaker transporters (and similar) and their > very > expensive to keep MGB, corvette's, etc,. Far out of the league of the > typical > MG/Triumph vintage racer. Considering what is needed to run competitively > in > SCCA, I just don't think it's a viable proposition for our vintage cars. > > Owning several vintage British cars, including a handful of race cars, > without > a doubt a Miata or similar is better for most racers. We just happen to dig > the vintage scene, and have no interest in SCCA type racing. > > I would expect to see continued decrease of vintage British cars involved > in > SCCA racing. Encourage those folks to come vintage race, where it could be > argued that's where they really belong, as none are newer than 1980. > > We'll pass along a fine vintage sports car to each of our kids, and > grandkids. > I'll provide any of them with a car & support to go vintage racing. I > think > that's the way to keep it going forward, along with being open and > friendly to > all who show an interest at the track, in our neighborhood, etc. > > Last little point; take one of your vintage race cars to local car shows. > You'll stand among the sea of 55-57 Chevy's, Corvette's & Porsche's. Invite > those interested to actually touch and sit in your car. Fire it up maybe. > Give > out business cards, and have them call you if they have any interest in > getting involved. You'll create quite a stir, compared to the bozos with > the > "Don't Touch" signs all over their cars. > > Ed Dunn > > West Coast Vintage Racing > Penngrove CA 94951 > > 760-492-3814 > www.vintageracing.us > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of marty > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 6:14 AM > To: FOT > Subject: [Fot] Small Bore Racers > > Just thinkinb& back in the 90b s in my neck of the woods there use to be > full grids of Sprites and Midgets racing. I cannot remember the last time > I > saw a Bugeye on track. Seemed like they were coming out of the woodwork. I > hardly ever see them any more. At Mid-Ohio last weekend there were two > midgets, that was it. Where the heck did they all disappear to? > > > Marty > > > > > > > Sent from Windows Mail > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mikeragtopeditor@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02D0D258489E for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 22:35:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC2S31.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s31.hotmail.com [65.55.111.106]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8712580773 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 22:35:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU436-SMTP223 ([65.55.111.73]) by BLU004-OMC2S31.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Mon, 14 Jul 2014 21:35:30 -0700 Received: from Antec300 ([174.21.25.139]) by BLU436-SMTP223.smtp.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(8.0.9200.16384); Mon, 14 Jul 2014 21:35:28 -0700 From: Jack Brooks To: "'fot'" Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 21:35:26 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac+f32AgJ3bH9YhEQR2M0jK1LGs+PA== FILETIME=[347067B0:01CF9FE6] Subject: [Fot] 2014 SOVREN Pacific Northwest Historics Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Gents, My pictures and videos from the weekend races have been posted. There are two main folders; this year and last. I added a second folder for this year. The pictures are arranged by driver. The videos are arranged by "Group", but have not been edited yet. I am short of time and hope to get them cleaned up and reposted soon, but didn't want to wait any longer to get the pictures up. I did better than last year, but still have a lot to learn. The picture quality is noticeably better, with far fewer out of focus. I didn't do much shooting beyond the Groups 3 & 4, so I apologize if you were outside those two groups and I didn't get many or any pictures. * I tried to eliminate all out of focus pictures, but left some (not too bad ones) where I thought you might still like them, i.e., multiple cars in the shot. * Some of the front straight pictures are out slightly of focus but were neat, so I included them. I needed a higher shutter speed and I need to shoot more from the trackside on that front straight. * Tony Garmy, some of the cars under your tent have folders with pictures. Please let those folks know. Please definitely let me know what photos worked or did not work, so I can fine tune what I shoot. Be critical, it's OK. I can't get better if I'm not sure where my pictures are not as good as they should be. I'll be setting the shutter speed higher next year and concentrating on getting in closer too. URL: https://sjbrooks.homeserver.com User: FOT Password: Amici Note: The letter case IS important! Use the caps. Thanks for a great time, Jack p.s. - note my new email address - JIBrooks@Live.com. My old address jibjib@att.net will be gone soon. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0313C25848C8 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2014 04:48:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f179.google.com (mail-we0-f179.google.com [74.125.82.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5504D2580788 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2014 04:46:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-we0-f179.google.com with SMTP id u57so3192428wes.38 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2014 03:47:01 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:thread-index:content-language; bh=WB77SRdh23R3pH/SsByhnL6cd2Vd3P8fCqKP8mOkROU=; b=wbIUKylvulP+YAHTV0WxfFNtJ98zJf5wNBB5dzsGNzob7FdaqQBXgDxWkWtuNO746y 6Gfv3UiIfPrlY78uj60IuMUS34LcwasSmUFb24EiOHokDreglCd7eNRRCOgYT00FvdpS BO50tt6I5Oc0kOxdAr3zVT/fqOoX+vBGsnvwm30tL671FhJeJne0+k5qBUrJlmmQzXg2 IhZmYbieOPiv0CQQm1cUkolXcHr/GRKwEAF3Ch6/q6uGiYajprIIDtvBQkxVoH9CYHyd FAyvazIPqiEljof09Pa5W1vlb2yLfX5elZ3RPz/IgyDA6KI7Mjyar0gOmZtYjpGnHNcX pMrg== s2mr4447678wif.33.1405421221709; 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Fri, 18 Jul 2014 08:24:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F6F2580842 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 08:23:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::c167:89f3:ca7b:1966]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::c167:89f3:ca7b:1966%13]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 09:23:51 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: FOT Thread-Topic: New member proposal - Pat McKearn Thread-Index: Ac+ik+bFGFIrd9PPSAC1LDRExNmgFA== Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 14:23:50 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Cc: 'McKearn McKearn' Subject: [Fot] New member proposal - Pat McKearn Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO I'd like to propose Pat McKearn for membership in this un-organization. Pat and his brother raced a TR250 with Midwestern Council some years ago and he's building a GT6 now - for the street, but we know how that goes. Second? Scott B. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:45 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 404AD2580AE8 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 08:27:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC2S10.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s10.hotmail.com [65.55.111.85]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4EE22580619 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 08:27:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU436-SMTP116 ([65.55.111.73]) by BLU004-OMC2S10.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Fri, 18 Jul 2014 07:27:59 -0700 Received: from [10.203.163.15] ([184.151.63.143]) by BLU436-SMTP116.smtp.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(8.0.9200.16384); Fri, 18 Jul 2014 07:27:57 -0700 References: <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B57C56A@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> From: Vangoughv Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 10:27:56 -0400 To: "Barr, Scott" FILETIME=[788252A0:01CFA294] Cc: McKearn McKearn , FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] New member proposal - Pat McKearn Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO GT6..... I'll 2nd the motion :) Welcome!! Vince > On Jul 18, 2014, at 10:23 AM, "Barr, Scott" wrote: > > I'd like to propose Pat McKearn for membership in this un-organization. Pat > and his brother raced a TR250 with Midwestern Council some years ago and he's > building a GT6 now - for the street, but we know how that goes. > > Second? > > Scott B. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:45 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A854258458E for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 08:34:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d05.mx.aol.com (omr-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0FC2580619 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 08:34:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aah01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aah01.mx.aol.com [172.27.1.143]) by omr-d05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9676070007CD6; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 10:35:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mla003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mla003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.186.81]) by mtaomg-aah01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 44C1B38000084; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 10:35:06 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 10:35:06 -0400 (EDT) To: sbarr@McCarty-Law.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1405694106; bh=tAghAkG+dv0wF21ulZvBnMtcIylvUcD/cBq0TzAtuec=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GsFoCoXy4hcyWRpnV1AaOWrqh8sWADmC7NKVQQLlXzpvEnxetGHFB0kWJhYfhCj1J VeURdX/5JAXnhRBm4UZvD9sr9ve46D7augN4QAwV+17WnA1HF7Nn7Zl2KlCVX3nzRg TlUT62lQQQ5Dnp5cCpOUTdPsdCsU21O9q7nEb31M= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b018f53c9309a1926 Cc: mckearn2@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Fot] New member proposal - Pat McKearn Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO In a message dated 07/18/2014 9:24:17 AM Central Daylight Time, sbarr@McCarty-Law.com writes: > I'd like to propose Pat McKearn for membership in this un-organization. > Pat > and his brother raced a TR250 with Midwestern Council some years ago and > he's > building a GT6 now - for the street, but we know how that goes. > > Second? > Yeah...we all know how that goes. Peter Egan once said something like, "RACING makes heroin addiction seem like a wish for something salty." I'll second your motion. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:45 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 499C125845EF for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 09:05:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB502580B12 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 09:05:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.36]) by qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Tqqo1o0050mlR8UAAr5ybd; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 15:05:58 +0000 Received: from Bud ([67.164.124.195]) by omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Tr5x1o00P4D3utv8Xr5xkF; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 15:05:58 +0000 From: "RACER BUD" To: "'Barr, Scott'" , "'FOT'" References: <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B57C56A@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 08:05:57 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac+ik+bFGFIrd9PPSAC1LDRExNmgFAABdAvw Content-Language: en-us s=q20140121; t=1405695958; bh=VFKumXUNe3M9ZUcZ5HWKZfLEDnZvkgE8BoUPmEYbmV4=; h=Received:Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rpydzyOtkVbRobcnaMcJJrqIN4f3s7sc9xBfbwzLyg4aShf6TwRBB5lx/lA8Eu7/4 4OE9JxYAdi2oj9Ba598m7qFa2PjAXrQdghjUNCFec1FEq8370Sg3I24OKB3ECSkHau A4Ir18GP9rM5K+pwheN+WrABrTr9V8kqd7Z/FmCOclqK2O6xtb5Szb+HSrSQCS9sCP lk1SA76iSp4Ja4v1mJmRIvYRoryPRcc/FymmBV0IFizVfOhyozDm0vAjoMLMCUaGKn 292f44bMMKKDSpbaTAgWuKwuR5p5RX+xJC5SXYLUuHRAMicOEiiNrkRZdCPube/NEN luImnCNjm3/uA== Cc: 'McKearn McKearn' Subject: Re: [Fot] New member proposal - Pat McKearn Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO I second..Welcome Pat! Racer Bud -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Barr, Scott Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 7:24 AM To: FOT Cc: 'McKearn McKearn' Subject: [Fot] New member proposal - Pat McKearn I'd like to propose Pat McKearn for membership in this un-organization. Pat and his brother raced a TR250 with Midwestern Council some years ago and he's building a GT6 now - for the street, but we know how that goes. Second? Scott B. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:45 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1506E25846B0 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 10:17:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.165]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB25258025C for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 10:15:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.174] by nm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jul 2014 16:16:09 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.239] by tm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jul 2014 16:16:09 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1048.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jul 2014 16:16:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 75005 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jul 2014 16:16:09 -0000 s=s1024; t=1405700169; bh=PSQFf9KQc/Pj909KbXNrr+4Tn2gTOtHxTM/edAPWy84=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OWwVs5x+usawAwI2sPVzZ9Eb7EgZtlQtR41+RdDEPq+vJNaD9bYv2VNOugYbsdAhm7WPR5QU49YNXStoMykRZ/ka1HMZu5/E5B8QfS0+JPAYneWpFCQvnmQjZ8ZY8ESghmg3T0wdjjGzAySs9UMKnGN9xHshUUIyjXf6GYqqons= xe2I0ouveFmL1.clcvb5x.A5CDxzC2JhifdRFWNGSOYQHp3blaH_qCyvj9Ca ilct9cgMWlFU26HOvQsQKxr0rV3bAwdT6_ds5WUbqhpt7vRQMCw7XU1FQXdV PbHXQygEZoH82gWYbBBsZbCOSXbHEyJxcy8gDrjaWytBIbffSmcYUnFy0M9a BrmKGB5j6U2Sr_Gdsz3Q45wUjlQvDeXq5BPvuBJR1Bw5.rrBU4bYcUr4W4dF .LIUo16LZviyP80kR8NGgpD2s2xJpckGXo3LwtqGn11FgYb8S.nHDGn6EUWA gOrx.zfesIfB.FRHkQlKmW8h5EaZVkNCA8.qRmheVArfiBkbywkecixbI.9b n3dHeP6e5_j6Z9ozyF7BkBJXzOVZg2esdifm541Y.pkhrziKhQ4ncntqV3Q_ 8ZV5iBGeZExgvMoZs4XL8Z6Na7Z4XxE8.FIRtc0h2fYlB8BE_Gkuckg0FcVr 01.xUoZJXEhy7dETffOUn2FR28A0vc08C04HlUvfPsTeD3ACUW3A5t5jdwl7 v5CzyL.mXN2mXrlSzhSXtXQFX8vYchKF6XIQ5cohzqVT0eXvWBKJsKsg- Received: from [173.172.106.129] by web140804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 09:16:09 PDT Rk9ULAoKVGhlIHJlcG9ydCB0aGF0IFNvdXRod2ljayBpcyBjbG9zZWQgaXMgcXVpdGUgYSBzdXJwcmlzZSB0byBtZS4gwqBJIHNwb2tlIHRvIHRoZW0geWVzdGVyZGF5IGFuZCB0aGUgYXhsZSBJIGhhZCBzZW50IGlzIGNvbXBsZXRlZCBhbmQgb24gdGhlIHdheSBiYWNrLiDCoEFib3V0IGEgMy00IHdlZWsgdHVybmFyb3VuZCBhdCBhIGNvc3Qgb2YgJDg1MCBwbHVzIHNoaXBwaW5nLiDCoENvbnRhY3QgUm9iIGF0IHJvYnNvdXRod2lja0BnbWFpbC5jb20gb3IgKDMwOSkgOTQ5LTI4NjguCgpDaGVlcnMsIMKgQm8BMAEBAQE- References: <58364013.19277008.1405028249125.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <1221906426.19282402.1405028799764.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <001701cf9fb2$ee570870$cb051950$@com> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 09:16:09 -0700 From: Robert Blake To: MadMarx , 'fot' Subject: Re: [Fot] Live axle tr4's, what to do for axles now ? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO FOT, The report that Southwick is closed is quite a surprise to me. I spoke to them yesterday and the axle I had sent is completed and on the way back. About a 3-4 week turnaround at a cost of $850 plus shipping. Contact Rob at robsouthwick@gmail.com or (309) 949-2868. Cheers, Bob Blake On Monday, July 14, 2014 5:29 PM, MadMarx wrote: I just broke the left axle this weekend and nearly flipped the car. In this case the axle broke in middle of the roller bearing position. Never had heard of that way braking and this is difficult to check, because you need to pull the bearing ring off. Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von toodamnfunky@comcast.net Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. Juli 2014 23:47 An: fot Betreff: [Fot] Live axle tr4's, what to do for axles now ? FoT, I know someone preparing a live axle TR4 to go racing next year and since Southwick closed he doesn't know what to do for axles. Are Ford axles the answer ? I read somewhere the TR4A live axle is stronger, true ? Jim g _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rblake36@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:45 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EDD02580544 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 06:11:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B0125802BC for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 06:10:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20140719121057.NQSC10448.mta21.charter.net@imp11>; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 08:10:57 -0400 Received: from mtaout003.msg.strl.va.charter.net ([68.114.190.28]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id UCAx1o0050dCcRg05CAxFe; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 08:10:57 -0400 Received: from impout002 ([68.114.189.17]) by mtaout003.msg.strl.va.charter.net (InterMail vM.9.00.010.00 201-2473-137) with ESMTP id <20140719121057.YNRA22783.mtaout003.msg.strl.va.charter.net@impout002>; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 07:10:57 -0500 Received: from [10.0.1.10] ([24.196.153.8]) by impout002 with charter.net id UCAw1o00E0B81vc01CAxoW; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 07:10:57 -0500 a=QhwFlP9zo++XkZcNwIRI4g==:117 a=QhwFlP9zo++XkZcNwIRI4g==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=BW6uiJsy1fYA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=MJIo3LPEAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=iH1Ys7LA4FynwGNLSIYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=psXREZS0v_AA:10 a=IeVFYImMg6QA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 From: Jerry Barr Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 07:10:56 -0500 References: <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B57C56A@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> To: "Barr, Scott" Cc: McKearn McKearn , FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] New member proposal - Pat McKearn Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Another GT6? Great! I second Pat. Welcome to this non organization. On Jul 18, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Barr, Scott wrote: > I'd like to propose Pat McKearn for membership in this un-organization. Pat > and his brother raced a TR250 with Midwestern Council some years ago and he's > building a GT6 now - for the street, but we know how that goes. > > Second? > > Scott B. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerrybarr@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:46 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2432584A54 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 08:32:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.196]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD9925849F5 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 08:31:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from AR5J3QR6XV (cpe-66-69-244-169.austin.res.rr.com [66.69.244.169]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mreueus002) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MXFx5-1X5bmY2D9Z-00WIoI; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 16:32:14 +0200 From: "FoodDude" To: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 09:32:18 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac+jXVlepXGRRpaGTi+TYkHTbg+AxA== Content-Language: en-us SOqG7zPn+PUPjEu64bnuCVdBXfj+aPPJKzM+yFocowVr4QFhur GT7CJTr39QTcD+PJS15jFJd+VKSOqtNeZZ7jmxrNsTcUNu9PaR xh2q9vbiH9JuZmtRyreLfTB3aC46N3blrHm8mPSsEVUpOkmRSP +ung5wET9q5Wi/s32mvwbxkCd6pQp1Vs3ha9q815P6U1FkfYlp um5aIOfcqXjkOgUIjQL/YgwXSjYx4I/cJ3eZxjJgVC5/Rgz+Vn jshi2f/gAxDon3Nn8km4NFcqDu2Ys+cTpEhDxCgDGRWsCfqkb3 URLBi9XLlngZbf74txdupu9hOGhj4Bx6g8jK9ZYhYrJE+FkEku veUiAL/PbMN+Q== Cc: apage2@prosystembrakes.com Subject: [Fot] Nomination: Ashley Page Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Turns out my 64 Spit Racer has quite some history. One of the first to race her was Ashley Page out of NC. We connected recently and went through all the old log books and confirmed he was one of the original people to race in the (now) #24. He is building a new Spit racer with his grandson, and we hope to see him on track soon. He and the car are featured, along with some pics, in Kas's book "Historical & Technical Guide for Triumph Cars". Please second and let's welcome him in. Thanks, Dave #24 BRG 1964 1296 Spitfire EP/FP #22 Green 1970 TR6 Chump/LeMons/WRL #30 Yellow/Orange 1971 Porsche 914-4 EP/DP "The Pursuit Porsche" _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:46 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726332584A58 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 09:08:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f174.google.com (mail-qc0-f174.google.com [209.85.216.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 056982580264 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 09:07:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f174.google.com with SMTP id o8so4296427qcw.5 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 08:08:09 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=MSZ9nKB/JHLu1hgsHT4TFeJ88v+xlpv8A9/VsgqaFkw=; b=sz+j1PWyP73SKDZICOxFuP+m+izt2m+cuzQE3mhOhbFJuyrZGBuGwT8ubKsbirNuP6 pD2GPFrDds0ErEEa29nlZV9f5ohz5mOG9xQ51icrkKoslocO9tFzxbYKqXxQDIUnpB2M ncwtAvWfIqYgJ8fJqYtXV9xDzIQzPNId6YL3f9EEhA0QCCDj2B5oQbLohfis8Xj0TYZk B67YnmsnzC5Z+yjWlLjgBNNXmIMJyNsr1tGN9cb3bk6IYQcwBMYn1ymURg967hdvY9xN mke+2WnPvPBP6Y6M2NZyIeUO6zDzI8uBLSh7+ATxT6yP7ghaXGUFyJAAkXWMHtaNEbmO +9Vg== dm7mr20230490qcb.9.1405782489549; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 08:08:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.212.70 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 08:07:29 -0700 (PDT) References: <08ee01cfa35e$402e6770$c08b3650$@fooddude.com> From: Kas Kastner Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 08:07:29 -0700 To: FoodDude Cc: A Page , FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination: Ashley Page Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Ashley is a geat guy, wondeful mechanic and a real racer. Happy to give him he second. He also knows more about running GTP cars that most you will ever meet. *Never be beaten by equipment.* On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 7:32 AM, FoodDude wrote: > Turns out my 64 Spit Racer has quite some history. One of the first to > race > her was Ashley Page out of NC. We connected recently and went through all > the old log books and confirmed he was one of the original people to race > in > the (now) #24. > > > > He is building a new Spit racer with his grandson, and we hope to see him > on > track soon. > > > > He and the car are featured, along with some pics, in Kas's book > "Historical > & Technical Guide for Triumph Cars". > > > > Please second and let's welcome him in. > > > > Thanks, > > Dave > > #24 BRG 1964 1296 Spitfire EP/FP > > #22 Green 1970 TR6 Chump/LeMons/WRL > > #30 Yellow/Orange 1971 Porsche 914-4 EP/DP "The Pursuit Porsche" > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:46 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 526012580701 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 15:25:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail175c2.megamailservers.com (mail175c2.megamailservers.com [69.49.111.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F247D25806DC for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 15:25:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.146.225.218] (mobile-166-205-066-063.mycingular.net [166.205.66.63] (may be forged)) by mail175c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id s6JLPHtq019359 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 17:25:19 -0400 From: A Page Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 17:25:18 -0400 To: "fot@autox.team.net" reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: [Fot] Thanks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Address=apage@prosystembrakes.com Thanks very much to Dave and Kas for getting me into the disorganization. I appreciate it and looking forward to reading all the valuable information here - and asking a few questions! Regards, Ashley Page _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:46 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9F22580798 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 15:52:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46A4258069E for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 15:52:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2152C0087 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 15:53:08 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 15:53:07 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: "fot@autox.team.net" References: <30EA115A-ED42-4131-BD36-8B97EDAE5145@prosystembrakes.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Thanks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO A Page wrote: > > Thanks very much to Dave and Kas for getting me into the disorganization. I > appreciate it and looking forward to reading all the valuable information here > - and asking a few questions! There is a searchable archive available, link at the bottom of each message for those on the real time list. Unfortunately it stopped working when my servers got hacked a while back, you'll notice there are no posts from the last few months in there. I am going to try to get it working this weekend, didn't get much done on it last weekend. And welcome aboard, Ashley, as well as Pat McKearn who was also recently added. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive