From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 06:10:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0750825808FE for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 06:10:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm45.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm45.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.120.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7862580453 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 06:09:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm45.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2014 12:10:25 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.130] by nm45.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2014 12:07:32 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.173] by tm18.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2014 12:07:32 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.237] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2014 12:07:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2014 12:07:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 50439 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Aug 2014 12:07:30 -0000 s=s1024; t=1406894850; bh=IdIKbGAhgrnHsmMpmt+lsZRN4vOVEC3zDnSeluih/C4=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qeZmS9ptAL7M+U9FbkLwdqMPwRXX5D0UxR5JzPGL42BGPUDfw9x6X38oZ7LQjMcV95WYjM3Z4N7H8qrqYtOKsfyLMukYlAbCNYPfuMi9oUiHw9wdidad0kNAXFAA48vwzU/t4vAIWZfsplWIuKXpjI5X9Hv969TtZqJSqb6JVrQ= XDXZnP61QFq2s5rkXtT1k09AimDveEDfiMMfFLcUc_BoBJ1nbaFmixVlJ1sO XSPqkxAjj4.YoKw3xufBt964tA4fsvO_JdZYhUp5_XCG3eyzxKLbnB7eOSia aw0MMicyp1hJsIl5kYAitAy_3LO_R6gtXnhhK6DPhdbcF4g04A6YxYXdkjgW mAqtjK6CgUD6SBpZ16T8aQmpYFYNbaw0q8VN0ste1NEbaBumUMnBKoOfXrFj j2j1vBwjqyGcoPuxnW4dCeiWroYO3OOcMFnPGaI0z7PhB6Loh4L3DEreqCe8 _YkH3a1ikJ2y35ABLiO_80J4fzILCZ3OSPitYYm0IN9cYicCV9fNJJcZNSHW Er62d77LZOM3Iwj3X4zGrSDNN.V4L4fHyBdeRrSqM2Iv.6tad3vfPKS5m8HN XAOAmsDrq0Kj4qTdbORAwFTSLDkTJPjtr9ZBaQohSr_WoAGR9bnpfkhBB5Io uWK59xrq28PU1B4NbYFQoQUL0fkuUNuiiIMFt4pUJCQvu.LPSQ6LVFtHjtFj SUCDlDW1Iohswi.Jkv3QjZ3ePXw-- Received: from [63.240.132.85] by web181005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 01 Aug 2014 05:07:30 PDT CgpBbWljaSwKwqAKVGhlcmUgaXMgc29tZW9uZSBvdXQgdGhlcmUgaW4gRk9UIGxhbmQgdGhhdCBhc2tlZCBhYm91dCB0aGUgR3JvdXAgNDQgcGFpbnQgY29kZXMgYWJvdXQgYSB5ZWFyIGFnby7CoCBJIGZpbmFsbHkgZm91bmQgdGhlIGZpbGUgdGhhdCBzYXZlZCB0aGUgaW5mb3JtYXRpb24gb24gYSBhbmQgdGhvdWdodCBJIHdvdWxkIHNoYXJlLgrCoApTdXBwb3NlZGx5IHRoaXMgY2FtZSBmcm9tIExhbmt5IGFuZCB3YXMgcGFzc2VkIGFsb25nIHRvIG1lIG1hbnkgeWVhcnMgYWdvLsKgIEkgcmVjZW50bHkgdmUBMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 05:07:30 -0700 From: Steven Benford Jr To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Group 44 Paint Codes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici, There is someone out there in FOT land that asked about the Group 44 paint codes about a year ago. I finally found the file that saved the information on a and thought I would share. Supposedly this came from Lanky and was passed along to me many years ago. I recently verified all of the codes and manufactures numbers and have updated. Glacier White Various years. British Leyland OEM Code BLVC 59 PPG 8845 ICI 4309 DuPont 8579 1974 Opel Signal Green OEM L308 DuPont 43073LH / 43073DH Ditzler/PPG 44921 Acme Rodgers 91482 Sherwin Williams 6521 1972 Fiat Bottle Green OEM 317 DuPont 32006 Ditzler/PPG 44921 Thumbs Up. Steve _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 09:36:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F2B258097D for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 09:36:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f172.google.com (mail-ig0-f172.google.com [209.85.213.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 318AF25807FF for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 09:34:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f172.google.com with SMTP id h15so1756987igd.17 for ; Fri, 01 Aug 2014 08:34:34 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date:content-type :mime-version; bh=uqUlH9EBhahPiB5IxHviCr014F2lHYjWy0Yk7lAFIGc=; b=Y5BXbNOoS8mAOZS4MkgrTvNLmajBGoNnmzj3T5+dXqxKEbbBc9M0c4qlg5Uxpwc2vx bz4ZAxvNiZGszRsllRXxyNACwdB7zTHzdjOYfvloxld9/MXseomUyycg9NZTFra+JPuE 5wqDpKvlEAUZZiwLxmOUT9WAOuKkn+5KqAUGjMGJr55l6QS3NmTvJfBksRl59erVYI7a iUL4amp4LAAdyhbbihRIzybtGFotghMcGGXlXRFxrjJyqY1SlaymbBlcdpCR2J3WuBOr sMJxc9IT/x4mhzWWLBow5LuMcaS8h4wbm5eSxFcABBLPSb/GPAK7yI8TtaQ7v7g4qWKn tiWA== Fri, 01 Aug 2014 08:34:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.186 (bda-74-82-80-88.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.88]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i6sm11356573igu.15.2014.08.01.08.34.32 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 01 Aug 2014 08:34:32 -0700 (PDT) Sensitivity: Normal To: "Fot" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 15:34:30 +0000 Subject: [Fot] More on Grattan Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Greetings Friends! Indeed we have entered both GT6's into the war at Grattan. I'm working on the final prep list for both cars as we speak. The list is deep. We have entered the yellow car in group 2 and will fancy a run at the front with an undeniable hope to run just ahead of everybody's favorite Tony Drews. But that lead spot my need even more speed... Rumour has it Tony picked up some hot Triumph tuner guru that will serve him as crew chief. Some Damndinger fellow??? Something about some sort of 10 speed Add-on application is floating around on some other forums. We are pretty nervous. In any case we are also eager to welcome some new Triumph faces to Grattan and some old faces in different roles. The idea of Running both GT6 cars at Grattan (in 2 different groups) originally came about so i could rematch my 2 most spirited Triumph battles from last year. We love racing with the #95 but don't yet know how to react to this Damndinger guy that will be helping him out. . And in group 8 We had a challenge from another GT6 and were really looking foward to another duel. Yet, Prior to even one wheel on track, The group 8 goal to beat Clark Lincoln in his EP SCCA orange GT6 monstrosity already came to pass as he has whimped and will not show up. In any case, the Zippy car will still be out for blood here. As usual, we will try to accomplish a B sedan whey-leh (a trouncing of Alfas and Datsuns). GT6 fans note... we are bringing it ALL to Grattan; including (but not limited to) my spectacular crew chief John Reed and all-knowing team engineer Brian Garcia. All this should keep us pretty busy and we are really looking forward to all aspects of a great Grattan weekend. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing 1969 Triumph GT6+#27 yellow 1969 Triumph GT6+#69 BRG "Zippy" Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 09:53:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 451B52580968 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 09:53:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d09.mx.aol.com (omr-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0612580952 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 09:53:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com [172.26.50.176]) by omr-d09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id D3BC07028AE50; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 11:54:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dtc003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dtc003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.163.9]) by mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 936DC38000082; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 11:54:03 -0400 (EDT) References: <20140801153630.85ABA258098D@autox.team.net> To: jason@multivintage.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Bruce Lapierre Received: from 198.14.216.179 by webmail-m164.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.161) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 01 Aug 2014 11:54:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 11:54:03 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1406908443; bh=URegmqECwi/oK9/ZAKFJAFWv0VfxSjHV0ajNdJ0xQ/U=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FT/TPX06fysa7ZpwCRsxh5F7eUbmT/H1CBG5zT05caI+xyhzVBpZrzNxEzOVaIhKo 41OZE9aQ0kcBHKir46+uxZGeaq4O8qI5d/UpQA6XOroxOx1QFJ5grA6y98gRWpj07k FCJQvXe1y2Aa0nzY3HxDXeQeo1UcCKg0J0Fib7BU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a32b053dbb81b1b60 Subject: Re: [Fot] More on Grattan Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Jason: Give up racing and start writing. This is awesome. Bruce Ex#46-TR4 -----Original Message----- From: jason To: Fot Sent: Fri, Aug 1, 2014 11:37 am Subject: [Fot] More on Grattan Greetings Friends! Indeed we have entered both GT6's into the war at Grattan. I'm working on the final prep list for both cars as we speak. The list is deep. We have entered the yellow car in group 2 and will fancy a run at the front with an undeniable hope to run just ahead of everybody's favorite Tony Drews. But that lead spot my need even more speed... Rumour has it Tony picked up some hot Triumph tuner guru that will serve him as crew chief. Some Damndinger fellow??? Something about some sort of 10 speed Add-on application is floating around on some other forums. We are pretty nervous. In any case we are also eager to welcome some new Triumph faces to Grattan and some old faces in different roles. The idea of Running both GT6 cars at Grattan (in 2 different groups) originally came about so i could rematch my 2 most spirited Triumph battles from last year. We love racing with the #95 but don't yet know how to react to this Damndinger guy that will be helping him out. . And in group 8 We had a challenge from another GT6 and were really looking foward to another duel. Yet, Prior to even one wheel on track, The group 8 goal to beat Clark Lincoln in his EP SCCA orange GT6 monstrosity already came to pass as he has whimped and will not show up. In any case, the Zippy car will still be out for blood here. As usual, we will try to accomplish a B sedan whey-leh (a trouncing of Alfas and Datsuns). GT6 fans note... we are bringing it ALL to Grattan; including (but not limited to) my spectacular crew chief John Reed and all-knowing team engineer Brian Garcia. All this should keep us pretty busy and we are really looking forward to all aspects of a great Grattan weekend. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing 1969 Triumph GT6+#27 yellow 1969 Triumph GT6+#69 BRG "Zippy" Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 10:18:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F274E258444B for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 10:18:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm8-vm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm8-vm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.218.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74900258041C for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 10:17:52 -0600 (MDT) s=s2048; t=1406909900; bh=tv1w1IeM3O4QB2SL2Mr9bLxH8cUAamA6EcDtnRgjIqM=; b=HYAm09HbqyH7W4xYPPKdYXrX7M/BBhb5hvjRrQq/lZwk88fFzmxF+oP5qRs/4m5XUXRO2MsJ4IIlGvwv1+ZgiCQwC3Lcwwf9EiV1fvcf1p4dXeqr2ohEeMdEHm/OwLQuCRdfX4p0vb9ZHkcd6nR3p+aeTKay2Y3pwLY1I+HonxYbMQHA/4mGCafOrQhhvOzdPP2YElybVhrj/aVdADP4cjp1HNQIPshtrgJR8P+juyAjEZo90mSwGMHKll0GYD5Go6nh7CA2IzAALkdEUMa56S4IvEaLqr0aUhlUna9l3+xbbchZgXHBeDV0/wicloPCVNc3tWseXDZF3uA1K5avEw== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=rogers.com; b=qy8Ubm+BRIdpcQ7Vk6W0kN/gWhf17LdVROAdQrR072VNPCPkuPhJdXy/riQgGI32fhTejRxyImMN4tHg0b1ohMiUG61vO6+wmAYdiGvWKeUTc74b6Ae1z0UVi/KCDKRW34YJrl3UC88tXn7Z4eJyXvWC4aUb27NydJW1KVYbZ4vkbUovIDd8NdmGxUvKKPsjCS1K3s+63bxfle80Y4qOHFH2SVAcqOxIDkjYh/8U/GHIQWWfe13R9PAJQx7tzqcuLMNMHPiN4qiuyK7NCaQJ2lqo69qi3aOfostxBNAdmau/i6q2XrWX9WzwqjWft+/sJtUAY+fmu4a2ksUr5XwqWw==; Received: from [216.39.60.182] by nm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2014 16:18:20 -0000 Received: from [98.136.164.65] by tm18.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2014 16:18:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp227.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2014 16:18:20 -0000 s=s1024; t=1406909900; bh=tv1w1IeM3O4QB2SL2Mr9bLxH8cUAamA6EcDtnRgjIqM=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Subject:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=hbW7BBI9oT2vVETH4JxdXsd3kd8Bgn6zDEwt3ltDzrh+jKTSmurD1ay7lzoaSGNuJn1lKlBVBvT03DnUgzkuWj8PyFyRCcpUe7s6Ifik7v7c5p8TDEnwHjgzNsEVfsJCz7vAOqiw7ZMohhy8cM7ZsipV8kqIDTw3XmR/sNEOP+Q= cd8kX_hDysl8oFJNYBjFbtQHLNYKWsCpNK_jvgv9z_p1Pt7zukJuB5G4SS8a ImBDK8wBxre37obPr5inWEDHnGlHlz41wIvweeQMPkUAr4SQ1J.CB8P_D4Yk wh6l7ToMIo5ofRdyv2qlAjY.nIfTRMAdQjfdmXou8a65SrJuO_WQ0WmvadKW TMse3rdryrppXJaeltyLnGQXpvt5HzXf9xIPcsFZLl7LpvZ5r8_ELmM4QW8S RHB0wXmLKloctH7bGcU3YshNNwaXiuRpgFJQTRjIRUbooj8Esn_q.7EfR35N SxiT49zYur30lqnNqikdkPLElvhApbwVVVwW8q9X1yXugdeNzjMWaVUfwvTZ PTQWncRl3P_F2xvsu81pqrm2g1vY46HWam5IjHjgbx6Bu5DMeUR2FIhb8A8P aGfjbNstk3PH5DGX4PApCzDbQGGD6lhSwRHEXErSV7tHglnV7nb5yERiIQOe fO6DNHW1EnaJqgMm1Y7LSzM2z1ySX40Mqfwomdvrm861jy2bd0GAfUvVdS4B t1zr7u3YoaKUg.GbP4OiQVfXDBjMQgoOXehe_qP8- From: Mike Deweerd Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 12:18:16 -0400 To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] Gratton Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I also am hoping to bring havoc to Gratton from north of the border The new engine is in the garage and soon In the race car tires await my arrival at the border This will be the first race for me this year hoping to sort any gremlins out at Cayuga next week on a test night Looking forward to seeing everyone and having a great time As for that denting guy ...... I'm bring wine and cheese .... Lol Cheers Mike Deweerd TR 4 # 77 http://trf.zeni.net/weekend/Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 10:31:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C48B2584455 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 10:31:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1lp0140.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.140]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F082580093 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 10:31:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.255.189.16) by BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.255.189.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.995.14; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 16:31:44 +0000 Received: from BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.189.16]) by BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.189.16]) with mapi id 15.00.0995.014; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 16:31:44 +0000 From: Michael Moore To: "jason@multivintage.com" , Fot Thread-Topic: [Fot] More on Grattan Thread-Index: AQHPrZ5vYTluI0RJl0KtCATQmf1otZu78Jig Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 16:31:43 +0000 References: <20140801153626.788B025809A9@autox.team.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [24.165.139.19] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID: x-forefront-prvs: 029097202E x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(6009001)(377454003)(189002)(13464003)(199002)(81542001)(85852003)(76482001)(50986999)(77982001)(83072002)(21056001)(15202345003)(46102001)(33646002)(107886001)(99286002)(95666004)(106356001)(106116001)(19580405001)(15975445006)(66066001)(107046002)(105586002)(20776003)(99396002)(64706001)(4396001)(19580395003)(54356999)(74316001)(79102001)(86362001)(74662001)(101416001)(76176999)(76576001)(31966008)(16601075003)(81342001)(83322001)(2656002)(87936001)(80022001)(74502001)(92566001)(85306004)(24736002)(108616003); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:BLUPR04MB855; H:BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; LANG:en; Subject: Re: [Fot] More on Grattan Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net First time for me at Grattan, is there a particular place you guys are going to try and paddock together? Thanks Mike 62 TR4, Race car 63 TR4, Street car Mike & Becky Moore 6050 Ruhl Road Fairview, PA 16415 -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of jason@multivintage.com Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 11:35 AM To: Fot Subject: [Fot] More on Grattan Greetings Friends! Indeed we have entered both GT6's into the war at Grattan. I'm working on the final prep list for both cars as we speak. The list is deep. We have entered the yellow car in group 2 and will fancy a run at the front with an undeniable hope to run just ahead of everybody's favorite Tony Drews. But that lead spot my need even more speed... Rumour has it Tony picked up some hot Triumph tuner guru that will serve him as crew chief. Some Damndinger fellow??? Something about some sort of 10 speed Add-on application is floating around on some other forums. We are pretty nervous. In any case we are also eager to welcome some new Triumph faces to Grattan and some old faces in different roles. The idea of Running both GT6 cars at Grattan (in 2 different groups) originally came about so i could rematch my 2 most spirited Triumph battles from last year. We love racing with the #95 but don't yet know how to react to this Damndinger guy that will be helping him out. . And in group 8 We had a challenge from another GT6 and were really looking foward to another duel. Yet, Prior to even one wheel on track, The group 8 goal to beat Clark Lincoln in his EP SCCA orange GT6 monstrosity already came to pass as he has whimped and will not show up. In any case, the Zippy car will still be out for blood here. As usual, we will try to accomplish a B sedan whey-leh (a trouncing of Alfas and Datsuns). GT6 fans note... we are bringing it ALL to Grattan; including (but not limited to) my spectacular crew chief John Reed and all-knowing team engineer Brian Garcia. All this should keep us pretty busy and we are really looking forward to all aspects of a great Grattan weekend. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing 1969 Triumph GT6+#27 yellow 1969 Triumph GT6+#69 BRG "Zippy" Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore@mtmcpafirm.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 10:39:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2CE42584445 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 10:39:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f175.google.com (mail-ie0-f175.google.com [209.85.223.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEAFE25805CA for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 10:39:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f175.google.com with SMTP id x19so6254003ier.20 for ; Fri, 01 Aug 2014 09:39:56 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :references:in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date :content-type:mime-version; bh=yzFWZueTR6KJ8nKVFsl6jXCJdW4XI/iS5IyFBlpkl5I=; b=JQjm2vgWPEU/ts2v9zKpXVZPDV3RepyxS+Onb6s8VOm8H8ZOIO3fnAs4tFT4b1u//n CTmTxO6qtet7yDdO4bMNA/RjQyRznyVVP7TlpKMZxr5mTLHxjd2fnvLuvPvxsHf0nI3v qNFz1P8hiuveyXpLXVaqAbNYyeyrrSbLWtayDCLezmJwUF8egT1GOHdHyQu05YNkZjgy CR2v2ue0EixOd2AzdruxoI0rq+CXd8e776jwF/RejkSkjJlXzxQh7KoPtkS7VpGMwekZ E8TzdnMNcErBSN1uJFI7GJCG2A4b75ksdwCUlXp0yCVZ46hVmqCICWX3rjLqybvMMabm vbbg== Fri, 01 Aug 2014 09:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.186 (bda-74-82-80-88.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.88]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id l6sm11954028igv.4.2014.08.01.09.39.55 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 01 Aug 2014 09:39:55 -0700 (PDT) References: <20140801153626.788B025809A9@autox.team.net> <11ff2de35590440ca87042a2105a27ba@BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> Sensitivity: Normal To: "Michael Moore" ,"Fot" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 16:39:52 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] More on Grattan Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Its kind of a land rush as the paddock gets pretty full. But I too would like to be close to all our guys. We typically do lower paddock with a view of the pond and turn 3. Tony is usually near the esses. I'm fine with either. FGR camps right there at the track and have been known to have a good time until all hours of the night, fire... Etc. Jason. FGR. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Michael Moore Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 16:31:43 To: jason@multivintage.com; Fot Subject: RE: [Fot] More on Grattan First time for me at Grattan, is there a particular place you guys are going to try and paddock together? Thanks Mike 62 TR4, Race car 63 TR4, Street car Mike & Becky Moore 6050 Ruhl Road Fairview, PA 16415 -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of jason@multivintage.com Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 11:35 AM To: Fot Subject: [Fot] More on Grattan Greetings Friends! Indeed we have entered both GT6's into the war at Grattan. I'm working on the final prep list for both cars as we speak. The list is deep. We have entered the yellow car in group 2 and will fancy a run at the front with an undeniable hope to run just ahead of everybody's favorite Tony Drews. But that lead spot my need even more speed... Rumour has it Tony picked up some hot Triumph tuner guru that will serve him as crew chief. Some Damndinger fellow??? Something about some sort of 10 speed Add-on application is floating around on some other forums. We are pretty nervous. In any case we are also eager to welcome some new Triumph faces to Grattan and some old faces in different roles. The idea of Running both GT6 cars at Grattan (in 2 different groups) originally came about so i could rematch my 2 most spirited Triumph battles from last year. We love racing with the #95 but don't yet know how to react to this Damndinger guy that will be helping him out. . And in group 8 We had a challenge from another GT6 and were really looking foward to another duel. Yet, Prior to even one wheel on track, The group 8 goal to beat Clark Lincoln in his EP SCCA orange GT6 monstrosity already came to pass as he has whimped and will not show up. In any case, the Zippy car will still be out for blood here. As usual, we will try to accomplish a B sedan whey-leh (a trouncing of Alfas and Datsuns). GT6 fans note... we are bringing it ALL to Grattan; including (but not limited to) my spectacular crew chief John Reed and all-knowing team engineer Brian Garcia. All this should keep us pretty busy and we are really looking forward to all aspects of a great Grattan weekend. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing 1969 Triumph GT6+#27 yellow 1969 Triumph GT6+#69 BRG "Zippy" Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 10:52:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C6B2580B33 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 10:52:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1blp0183.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.183]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13DC225809BF for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 10:50:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.255.189.16) by BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.255.189.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.995.14; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 16:50:54 +0000 Received: from BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.189.16]) by BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.189.16]) with mapi id 15.00.0995.014; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 16:50:54 +0000 From: Michael Moore To: "jason@multivintage.com" , Fot Thread-Topic: [Fot] More on Grattan Thread-Index: AQHPrZ5vYTluI0RJl0KtCATQmf1otZu78JiggAACmgCAAALpcA== Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 16:50:54 +0000 References: <20140801153626.788B025809A9@autox.team.net> <11ff2de35590440ca87042a2105a27ba@BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> <1785650122-1406911193-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-218894948-@b18.c3.bise6.blackberry> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [24.165.139.19] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID: x-forefront-prvs: 029097202E x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(6009001)(199002)(13464003)(189002)(38414003)(48214007)(377454003)(79102001)(74316001)(86362001)(74662001)(64706001)(19580395003)(4396001)(99396002)(54356999)(87936001)(80022001)(2656002)(83322001)(85306004)(92566001)(74502001)(76576001)(101416001)(76176999)(81342001)(31966008)(16601075003)(95666004)(106356001)(33646002)(46102001)(99286002)(107886001)(19580405001)(106116001)(85852003)(76482001)(81542001)(15202345003)(21056001)(50986999)(83072002)(77982001)(20776003)(105586002)(15975445006)(66066001)(107046002)(24736002)(108616003); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:BLUPR04MB855; H:BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; LANG:en; Subject: Re: [Fot] More on Grattan Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ok, we will be there before gates open so hopefully can follow you in and get somewhere close. Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 -----Original Message----- From: jason@multivintage.com [mailto:jason@multivintage.com] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 12:40 PM To: Michael Moore; Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] More on Grattan Its kind of a land rush as the paddock gets pretty full. But I too would like to be close to all our guys. We typically do lower paddock with a view of the pond and turn 3. Tony is usually near the esses. I'm fine with either. FGR camps right there at the track and have been known to have a good time until all hours of the night, fire... Etc. Jason. FGR. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Michael Moore Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 16:31:43 To: jason@multivintage.com; Fot Subject: RE: [Fot] More on Grattan First time for me at Grattan, is there a particular place you guys are going to try and paddock together? Thanks Mike 62 TR4, Race car 63 TR4, Street car Mike & Becky Moore 6050 Ruhl Road Fairview, PA 16415 -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of jason@multivintage.com Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 11:35 AM To: Fot Subject: [Fot] More on Grattan Greetings Friends! Indeed we have entered both GT6's into the war at Grattan. I'm working on the final prep list for both cars as we speak. The list is deep. We have entered the yellow car in group 2 and will fancy a run at the front with an undeniable hope to run just ahead of everybody's favorite Tony Drews. But that lead spot my need even more speed... Rumour has it Tony picked up some hot Triumph tuner guru that will serve him as crew chief. Some Damndinger fellow??? Something about some sort of 10 speed Add-on application is floating around on some other forums. We are pretty nervous. In any case we are also eager to welcome some new Triumph faces to Grattan and some old faces in different roles. The idea of Running both GT6 cars at Grattan (in 2 different groups) originally came about so i could rematch my 2 most spirited Triumph battles from last year. We love racing with the #95 but don't yet know how to react to this Damndinger guy that will be helping him out. . And in group 8 We had a challenge from another GT6 and were really looking foward to another duel. Yet, Prior to even one wheel on track, The group 8 goal to beat Clark Lincoln in his EP SCCA orange GT6 monstrosity already came to pass as he has whimped and will not show up. In any case, the Zippy car will still be out for blood here. As usual, we will try to accomplish a B sedan whey-leh (a trouncing of Alfas and Datsuns). GT6 fans note... we are bringing it ALL to Grattan; including (but not limited to) my spectacular crew chief John Reed and all-knowing team engineer Brian Garcia. All this should keep us pretty busy and we are really looking forward to all aspects of a great Grattan weekend. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing 1969 Triumph GT6+#27 yellow 1969 Triumph GT6+#69 BRG "Zippy" Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore@mtmcpafirm.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 17:57:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72732584920 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 17:57:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p02c12o144.mxlogic.net (p02c12o144.mxlogic.net [208.65.145.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1FAF2580721 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 08:26:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO ATLPEXCAS02.xc.lan) by p02c12o144.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.0.0-3) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id bb3abd35.0.11664.00-372.31967.p02c12o144.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Fri, 01 Aug 2014 08:27:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::c824:a29e:45a5:b81c]) by ATLPEXCAS02.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 10:27:06 -0400 From: John Hasty To: FOT Thread-Topic: New address jhasty@mhc-law. Com Thread-Index: Ac+tlKtLuUO7mvS6TFaETh7HLh0wuw== Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 14:27:05 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US Content-ID: a=VR8QHrWKYhK80xkEBGCjUg==] a=AAP] a=kj9zAlc] a=YlVTAMxIAAAA] a=d_-5GiHvnx] Subject: [Fot] New address jhasty@mhc-law. Com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net How do you change your email address on the site? Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 18:18:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924352584929 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 18:18:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy7-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy7-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [70.40.196.235]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 712D82580763 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 18:18:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 7167 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2014 00:18:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by gproxy7.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 2014 00:18:34 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw2 with id ZcJT1o00Y1NzpT901cJWef; Fri, 01 Aug 2014 18:18:33 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=bpmoXL-FaX0A:10 a=yKqyAkVeGwwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=b4TgfONAAAAA:8 a=WtWJByInAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=m8YLQ22tgXq0yLuTKNkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=kp3uRgNowesA:10 a=b1Mx5VLTUs0A:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=52615 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XDN1o-0007Rm-Gn; Fri, 01 Aug 2014 18:18:28 -0600 Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2014 19:18:20 -0500 To: jason@multivintage.com,"Michael Moore" , "Fot" From: Tony Drews References: <20140801153626.788B025809A9@autox.team.net> <11ff2de35590440ca87042a2105a27ba@BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> <20140801163931.E2F5A258444B@autox.team.net> {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] More on Grattan Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'll be in the garages with Bill D (sans car - Bill is sans car, not me) this time. They're not terribly expensive and really easy to set up. :) Tony Drews At 11:39 AM 8/1/2014, jason@multivintage.com wrote: >Its kind of a land rush as the paddock gets pretty full. But I too >would like to be close to all our guys. We typically do lower >paddock with a view of the pond and turn 3. Tony is usually near the >esses. I'm fine with either. FGR camps right there at the track and >have been known to have a good time until all hours of the night, fire... Etc. >Jason. >FGR. >Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > >-----Original Message----- >From: Michael Moore >Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 16:31:43 >To: jason@multivintage.com; Fot >Subject: RE: [Fot] More on Grattan > >First time for me at Grattan, is there a particular place you guys >are going to try and paddock together? > >Thanks >Mike > >62 TR4, Race car >63 TR4, Street car > >Mike & Becky Moore >6050 Ruhl Road >Fairview, PA 16415 > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of >jason@multivintage.com >Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 11:35 AM >To: Fot >Subject: [Fot] More on Grattan > >Greetings Friends! >Indeed we have entered both GT6's into the war at Grattan. >I'm working on the final prep list for both cars as we speak. >The list is deep. >We have entered the yellow car in group 2 and will fancy a run at >the front with an undeniable hope to run just ahead of everybody's >favorite Tony Drews. But that lead spot my need even more speed... >Rumour has it Tony picked up some hot Triumph tuner guru that will >serve him as crew chief. Some Damndinger fellow??? Something about >some sort of 10 speed Add-on application is floating around on some >other forums. >We are pretty nervous. >In any case we are also eager to welcome some new Triumph faces to >Grattan and some old faces in different roles. >The idea of Running both GT6 cars at Grattan (in 2 different groups) >originally came about so i could rematch my 2 most spirited Triumph >battles from last year. We love racing with the #95 but don't yet >know how to react to this Damndinger guy that will be helping him out. . > >And in group 8 >We had a challenge from another GT6 and were really looking foward >to another duel. Yet, Prior to even one wheel on track, The group 8 >goal to beat Clark Lincoln in his EP SCCA orange GT6 monstrosity >already came to pass as he has whimped and will not show up. >In any case, the Zippy car will still be out for blood here. As >usual, we will try to accomplish a B sedan whey-leh (a trouncing of >Alfas and Datsuns). > >GT6 fans note... we are bringing it ALL to Grattan; including (but >not limited to) my spectacular crew chief John Reed and all-knowing >team engineer Brian Garcia. All this should keep us pretty busy and >we are really looking forward to all aspects of a great Grattan weekend. >Jason Ostrowski >Friendly Ghost Racing >1969 Triumph GT6+#27 yellow >1969 Triumph GT6+#69 BRG "Zippy" > > >Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore@mtmcpafirm.com >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 18:22:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE072580763 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 18:22:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698822580763 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 18:22:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42E12C024F for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 18:23:18 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2014 18:23:18 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: "F.O.T." References: <53DC0958.1070802@porterscustom.com> Subject: [Fot] Fwd: [Healeys] cars for projects Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In case any GT6 folks are looking. mjb. -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [Healeys] cars for projects Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2014 15:40:40 -0600 From: David Porter To: healeys@autox.team.net I have a friend with a Bugeye wishing to sell it and all that he has to go with it.. Call Gil at 505-920-3546 (welding skills required) I have a Triumph GT6 (builder w/engine out) and a '68 Triumph GT6+ mostly complete. If anyone has interest in either of these cars contact me off list for details and pictures.. my phone # is below.. -- Dave Porter Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM 87107 505-352-1378 Go HERE: my world www.porterbikes.com/ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 2 09:51:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF7152584928 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2014 09:51:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC2S8.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s8.hotmail.com [65.55.111.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E312580095 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2014 09:50:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU402-EAS104 ([65.55.111.72]) by BLU004-OMC2S8.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Sat, 2 Aug 2014 08:51:17 -0700 From: marty To: =?utf-8?Q?FOT?= Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 15:49:25 +0000 FILETIME=[98DBBB50:01CFAE69] Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Bill_Newman?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hey Bill, (GT6 driver from Fla) you still on the list? Email I had no longer valid. Marty Sent from Windows Mail _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 3 19:22:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A92E325845CA for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 19:22:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f176.google.com (mail-wi0-f176.google.com [209.85.212.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA43258068D for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 19:22:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f176.google.com with SMTP id bs8so4139789wib.15 for ; Sun, 03 Aug 2014 18:22:35 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xVY0aS8Pz/j2lRzTvayiyL/o70YPszsDHPcWylJpLm8=; b=iRBOVCmR6V10gqH0tCKfH9vX77TffeB2my1rwJGNlXim7I9qyPjCrcSgTzjjRvwPMl 0HlgYi3l2Fou6ZxAdku/eZptHJ4st/XgeF1J2zUdXHXrPflU4Qgy8lHVgXmE6zrf86+g v8tq++tyTbjDxazxb7qBMFcspklRHxyrX1JgZ/qHNTT20wHt81D5RJKOLtweYuAyw/Pd 22Qru7S24JxH0rgdpUIrSn6e8vWVk6IUMxtS5+sFuvTEEAZE3gDkN0+1ZGaA5h5CiK9O gPils1nM8Ytl1JQgWD0xazD3IhpHZEWfqe4POCn4xeiowiajzrbjrLWqtoRUnFMWKHxI x9jw== hd10mr25094930wib.77.1407115355597; Sun, 03 Aug 2014 18:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.149.238 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 18:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 20:22:35 -0500 From: McKearn McKearn To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Wheel offset Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi all. I am having a tire rubbing issue with my GT6. I currently am running a set of slotted mags from Gardenia Cal. No idea of the manufacturer. They are 13x6 with about 6 mm negative offset. I tried to stuff some 185-70-13 tires under the stock fenders but they rub like crazy. The last set of tires I had were 195-60-13 and they fit fine but are apparently no longer available. Can someone point me in the right direction. I want low profile tires and am thinking about just getting some used racing tires OR some wheels with different offset OR maybe getting some 15 inch wheels with the correct offset and some 45 profile tires. What works? Thanks. Pat _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 08:59:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1835425808DC for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 08:59:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (isis.mit.edu [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8506D2580437 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 08:58:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s74ExHvG002385 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 10:59:17 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 10:59:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Charity Request Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello, This is my annual charity plea. My local Sports Car Club of America region called New England Region, aka NER/SCCA holds a charity event weekend each year to raise awareness and money for leukemia research. The charity of choice is UMass Memorial Foundation. Donations of any amount are appreciated and the donations are 100% tax deductable. The region has a goal for 2014 of raising more than last year's $20k - so please help. My personal effort involves seeking out folks that I've helped in some way in the last year or so and ask them to consider a donation to this worthy cause. The full link to my fundraising page is: http://www.firstgiving.com/fundraiser/robert-lang-1/2014-NER-SCCA-Racing-Against-Leukemia A short URL to the fundraising page is: http://tinyurl.com/q5ym3zv If you do not care to donate on-line and still wish to make a donation, please contact me directly. I will make sure your donations are forwarded to UMMF. You can read about the UMass Memorial Foundation here: http://www.umassmed.edu/foundation/index.aspx Note: Firstgiving does charge a small fee for the on-line transaction. Feel free to share this link with your friends and family. Thanks in advance. Bob Lang --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 15:57:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33CF72584609 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 15:57:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D1425807B3 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 15:56:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id akdf1o0040x6nqc01lxGvm; Mon, 04 Aug 2014 21:57:16 +0000 Received: from locutus ([50.170.163.20]) by omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id alxE1o00A0Sj6Ay8YlxEkX; Mon, 04 Aug 2014 21:57:15 +0000 From: "Jim Gray" To: Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 15:52:22 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac+wLfv+pYGwKqYZSp+8tbgF7GDGJA== s=q20140121; t=1407189436; bh=YVqsk4IKBEaPejw15b6wnl3LKu79eXYd7P4nQiQnO3I=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mRy7sxiYyzT1EuBqWzBEI2GyTrGvopgkdv6Bkwa15iWzc1udMH8mPQNyuPJ4ckTkS C2xI6PGMN2E0ZjfdP75r5VM9lM3EwZRf5BaC0ZzIEjieGpECZd9Beq//BfOW9IFMuL kPAVYQ3YTEAVcDh4cHE/6RdmU6J5myDvz35FR73tlvQpfngaFDfWOaMDkBazSDawtU gwm6BM2hMrg0b1rcDRfTIXkdqonq/OBOBRnOLb3JUqv6xvjBxQWJXBjohS931tg+PP HMuFQGeYw0JbPchBXPa2nDfwcFXWViGyREAhCR0+Nr1GDNEQqw36HXXgyHNEX0BXcd ntuc4vm9480Eg== Cc: dangriffin154@gmail.com Subject: [Fot] Nomination to FoT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FoT, I would like to nominate Dan Griffin to the ranks. He races a spitfire with RMVR and is a really good guy. Dan would be a great addition to FOT. Do I have a second ? Thanks, Jim Gray _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 16:19:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A37258461F for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 16:19:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f171.google.com (mail-ie0-f171.google.com [209.85.223.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3172A25803FF for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 16:18:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f171.google.com with SMTP id at1so103771iec.2 for ; Mon, 04 Aug 2014 15:19:14 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:reply-to:sensitivity:importance :subject:to:cc:from:date:content-type:mime-version; bh=YxaUQIrzp7b8CRp00Eh9qoRim8AHbvL0Oa+5FJedJI0=; b=VGXyDrCj5sQnB7xD6KNskvKOY8EKneV0FPoNTFYlSiU7eICSh37j19Ew0Ekyporlse R0DN7AbJmDP+9nTWosWFZUSnVldiSW7MFOM2aGLro5a9+k7D868tGi1nHTTNc1vOFc60 /GU5Y+XhWjj7pzWWuqf5G0d+ubaWV5jtr4GGuK5ZGLeKLJJsVWJLjU3Ieoyj7wkNpnGh K+H0juF288SW3SlP7v7LkiOaXOxEnHyJQagllhXw9wXzLIxrG8SCHv5/G19OHMMZvUz9 6cqNEcpn4LGXkL4n3qDIrX6leXLgLo1a0abYhntGvwzt3gRf7BTyjZoxipAkK3qPT6Vd d5Dw== bd5mr41884850igb.1.1407190753790; Mon, 04 Aug 2014 15:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.186 (bda-74-82-80-88.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.88]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id j5sm1477636ige.12.2014.08.04.15.19.13 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Aug 2014 15:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Sensitivity: Normal To: "Jim Gray" ,"Fot" ,"Fot" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 22:19:11 +0000 Cc: dangriffin154@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination to FoT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Any friend of Jim Gray is a friend of mine! Second! Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing ------Original Message------ From: Jim Gray To: Fot Cc: dangriffin154@gmail.com Subject: [Fot] Nomination to FoT Sent: Aug 4, 2014 4:52 PM FoT, I would like to nominate Dan Griffin to the ranks. He races a spitfire with RMVR and is a really good guy. Dan would be a great addition to FOT. Do I have a second ? Thanks, Jim Gray _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 17:01:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77F62584614 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 17:01:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB9F92580696 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 17:01:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id am7H1o0010EPchoA2n1htV; Mon, 04 Aug 2014 23:01:41 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([71.196.165.168]) by omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id an1f1o00d3eKESF8Mn1g5w; Mon, 04 Aug 2014 23:01:41 +0000 From: Bud R Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 17:01:39 -0600 References: <20140804215655.17E3725845FE@autox.team.net> To: Jim Gray s=q20140121; t=1407193301; bh=syGLx1u2Cvah2+zoDgY1dcTotS37cn8c2hUtQrifkZ4=; h=Received:Received:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From:Date: Message-Id:To; b=lKsARDVLEtw9rG4F+xjZYhFpDTN2Eu9usxs9EvADMQFMYf+nDHjOX4vga5WFRQ1pV NJmaPt9BuTl6LpVUqtgpK+7o9mF+ITLpMzUMoCIbkwmXgM9GUNFBB2PydCGuoYt3XO Bl+iQou64vDT3MuaYzEMm8GCkBtY4mN4hcf3xNWwSp9AKpB6Z1gOLs/lDURmOlviID /srtv+GgJruEiIcpm5y79ZLbvYmYQxfx1GBWZoLeryryDTocWKD8lbctFAFyVnrmws EdWwkmNWbhMqFasUjpAltHk0FMGhUvYJDxY0egruNCjzmq1dSISWmXX921GXd+Pewb LSKhZOBj0GdSw== Cc: dangriffin154@gmail.com, fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination to FoT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ive gotten to know Dan this race season but Ill still second him. ;) Seriously, hes a good steady racer and a nice guy. Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Aug 4, 2014, at 3:52 PM, Jim Gray wrote: > FoT, > > I would like to nominate Dan Griffin to the ranks. He races a spitfire with > RMVR and is a really good guy. Dan would be a great > > addition to FOT. > > Do I have a second ? > > Thanks, > > Jim Gray > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 18:24:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7940B2584663 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 18:24:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC042584615 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 18:23:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 393152C024F for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 18:24:00 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 18:23:58 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <20140804215652.F35AE2584610@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination to FoT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Jim Gray wrote: > FoT, > > I would like to nominate Dan Griffin to the ranks. He races a spitfire with > RMVR and is a really good guy. Dan would be a great > addition to FOT. It is so. 20+ years ago when I started doing these lists all the additions and deletions were done by personal emails to me, requiring file edits and restarting software to pick up the changes. With the available tools these days, it takes only a few seconds to deal with new additions. Much nicer. With 60 lists and 10,000 subscribers, that would make Team.Net a 36 hour a day job. I should still charge $1.29 for initiation fees, though. That will make me rich! mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 21:05:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4373B2584632 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 21:05:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f174.google.com (mail-pd0-f174.google.com [209.85.192.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16705258051C for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 21:05:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f174.google.com with SMTP id fp1so469318pdb.19 for ; Mon, 04 Aug 2014 20:05:46 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:importance:content-type :mime-version; bh=z5yKj0wDJe0O+ADkLOTVsrNKpiphEsiznwGxPVb8TXU=; b=R6mL5yjnaRWMOPvMWoq70cVoP6CuZb4QoUEjc4ZA4jmFH80Sf79z06CB/8a8hJZeYq Xw03KdA0Etv2CiUeQUKF5LMapItdak3iHOQvOEdk6w0iN48LgK4emKSE+BKKcI3g+jmW 2WvVc4uhDuZ7jgf4Hsp0KRUBMLf1insezqncajdAc7Ld8LQnlns59TOqSHV5ADcf4QXo 1YWnaSQBtJlaBfmM86shF8NNvNyVtrlaEWm07lSW5JxJU3LizlstmxQM7E6FjdqyNI2T j81rH6oy5pg2g5Sq5BUXZJmDs3zGPNWA4WaNZwOGEAtk0T8WHlQS+Vge91HCDnbNyUvB QWng== ae8mr1015037pac.14.1407207946762; Mon, 04 Aug 2014 20:05:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.6.190.6] ([98.125.195.45]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id cm7sm504769pdb.74.2014.08.04.20.05.45 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Aug 2014 20:05:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 20:05:46 -0700 (PDT) From: =?utf-8?B?dHJpb3NhbkBnbWFpbC5jb20=?= To: =?utf-8?B?TWFyayBKIEJyYWRha2lz?= , =?utf-8?B?RnJpZW5kcw==?= Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination to FoT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Screw it - 5 bucks a year each and you would get to race with us. 50 a year make for richness and that is my contribution. Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Phone. ------ Original message------ From: Mark J Bradakis Date: Mon, Aug 4, 2014 5:24 PM To: fot@autox.team.net; Subject:Re: [Fot] Nomination to FoT Jim Gray wrote: > FoT, > > I would like to nominate Dan Griffin to the ranks. He races a spitfire with > RMVR and is a really good guy. Dan would be a great > addition to FOT. It is so. 20+ years ago when I started doing these lists all the additions and deletions were done by personal emails to me, requiring file edits and restarting software to pick up the changes. With the available tools these days, it takes only a few seconds to deal with new additions. Much nicer. With 60 lists and 10,000 subscribers, that would make Team.Net a 36 hour a day job. I should still charge $1.29 for initiation fees, though. That will make me rich! mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 00:22:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1DB625846E0 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 00:22:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BE025804F3 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 00:22:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7817D2C013E for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 00:23:13 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 00:23:12 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: Friends References: <000f4242.4d9fa126471eadd3@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination to FoT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net triosan@gmail.com wrote: > Screw it - 5 bucks a year each and you would get to race with us. 50 a year make for richness and that is my contribution. A fair number of people contribute, mostly during the spring fund drive, but it is always nice to pull a check out of the PO box, or check Paypal and find a new donation every now and again. And there are familiar, regular names attached to many donations. Most of you Get It. But covering expenses is not what these lists are about, especially this one. My task is to be an enabler, to assist in whatever way I can to promote the addiction we share, to keep the Sporting Triumph on the track, on the road, in our lives and in our hearts. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 12:39:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52262584999 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 12:39:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 77AA725847A1 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 12:38:53 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1407263962; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=loXHCpsNna2hhdcm9rRK5Y3yzHeNuKuyHGk3r7Fo2u0dI2WyJDby3je5IuWEwFA/D vLU3jhnD9+rYq29b1l39HBDBgzMC73lYz2fRg2DkEjNv4d9STKvVeOTX/+A8pDSbrm ewK2SCNBGdLU/zklvNrZBf83y3bPwhUSYnv8T9E4= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail02.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.142]) by smtpout04.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABK8CKFBAGWN2DA for (sender ); Tue, 5 Aug 2014 11:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [24.8.224.254] by webmail02.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:37:21 GMT From: "wgrosenbach@juno.com" Full-Name: "wgrosenbach@juno.com" Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:37:21 GMT To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] High Plains Raceway RMVR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amlci, Ashley Averill made her first attempt at a race weekend with three three silver, the GT-6 her Dad, Clive built and campaigned since the mid '80s; all by herself. She got the car too the track on Friday for some test & tune laps, and things looked promising for the race. Saturday the car was functioning well enough for Ashley to notice that she missed the hotter cam that was in the previous engine configuration. Exiting Corner 5, she had a sudden loss of power, shut it off and coasted into the runoff at 6. Towed in, it was quickly determined the car was done for the weekend. A group of FOT members came over and verified the terminality of the situation, discussed possibilities for getting the car ready for the RMVR Enduro and then loaded the GT-6 for Ashley. She and the car made it home, safe and sound. Ashley and I would like to thank all of the FOTers for their assistance and support. An amazing group! William Rosenbach, RMVR Race Control Triumphless and living vicariously. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 13:34:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93762584A26 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 13:34:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail70c28.carrierzone.com (mail70c28.carrierzone.com [66.175.52.155]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B0725806D7 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 13:33:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail70c28.carrierzone.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail70c28.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id s75JXpqK022610 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Aug 2014 19:33:51 +0000 Received: (from webmail@localhost) by mail70c28.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.12.2/Submit) id s75JXnAS022608; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 19:33:49 +0000 Received: from d-128-235-182.bootp.Virginia.EDU (d-128-235-182.bootp.Virginia.EDU [128.143.235.182]) by webmail.lumos.net (Webmail 5.0 V.V.I.) with HTTP for ; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 15:33:49 -0400 From: "=?utf-8?b?Ui4gSm9obiBMeWU=?=" To: fot@autox.team.net, "wgrosenbach@juno.com" Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 15:33:49 -0400 References: <20140805.123721.27726.1@webmail02.vgs.untd.com> User-Agent: Webmail 6.0 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] High Plains Raceway RMVR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Bill, Thanks for that nice piece of news.B It is great to hear that she is carrying on Clive's tradition.B Would she be interested in joining this motley crew?B If so, I would like to nominate her at this time.B Do I have a second?B Bill, can you get her contact info to mjb? Thanks, John On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:37:21 GMT, "wgrosenbach@juno.com" wrote: Amlci, > Ashley Averill made her first attempt at a race weekend with three three > silver, the GT-6 her Dad, Clive built and campaigned since the mid '80s; all > by herself. > She got the car too the track on Friday for some test & tune laps, and things > looked promising for the race. Saturday the car was functioning well enough > for Ashley to notice that she missed the hotter cam that was in the previous > engine configuration. Exiting Corner 5, she had a sudden loss of power, shut > it off and coasted into the runoff at 6. Towed in, it was quickly determined > the car was done for the weekend. A group of FOT members came over and > verified the terminality of the situation, discussed possibilities > for getting > the car ready for the RMVR Enduro and then loaded the GT-6 for Ashley. > She and the car made it home, safe and sound. > Ashley and I would like to thank all of the FOTers for their assistance and > support. > An amazing group! > William Rosenbach, RMVR Race Control > Triumphless and living vicariously. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com > > > -- Thanks, John rjl@gt-classics.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 14:04:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 662CB2584A0C for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 14:04:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126D925807A3 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 13:57:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vwm6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (vwm6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.10.36]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0N9U00L58NGW79A0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 15:58:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [67.83.138.143] by webtop.webmail.optimum.net with HTTP; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 15:58:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 15:58:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Redmond To: rjl@gt-classics.com References: <20140805.123721.27726.1@webmail02.vgs.untd.com> <20140805153349.7kiydst39c44cgog@webmail.lumos.net> User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] High Plains Raceway RMVR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We've all been there. B Hang in there Ashley! I second! Todd On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 03:33 PM, R. John Lye wrote: > Hi Bill, > > Thanks for that nice piece of news.B It is great to hear that > she is carrying on Clive's tradition.B Would she be interested > in joining this motley crew?B If so, I would like to nominate > her at this time.B Do I have a second?B Bill, can you get her contact > info to mjb? > > Thanks, > John > > On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:37:21 GMT, "wgrosenbach@juno.com" > wrote: > Amlci, >> Ashley Averill made her first attempt at a race weekend with three >> three >> silver, the GT-6 her Dad, Clive built and campaigned since the mid >> '80s; > all >> by herself. >> She got the car too the track on Friday for some test & tune laps, >> and > things >> looked promising for the race. Saturday the car was functioning well >> enough >> for Ashley to notice that she missed the hotter cam that was in the > previous >> engine configuration. Exiting Corner 5, she had a sudden loss of >> power, > shut >> it off and coasted into the runoff at 6. Towed in, it was quickly > determined >> the car was done for the weekend. A group of FOT members came over >> and >> verified the terminality of the situation, discussed possibilities >> for getting >> the car ready for the RMVR Enduro and then loaded the GT-6 for >> Ashley. >> She and the car made it home, safe and sound. >> Ashley and I would like to thank all of the FOTers for their >> assistance and >> support. >> An amazing group! >> William Rosenbach, RMVR Race Control >> Triumphless and living vicariously. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com >> >> >> > > -- > Thanks, > John > > rjl@gt-classics.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 14:05:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04ED52584A26 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 14:05:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B049125807CF for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 14:03:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id b80w1o0011wfjNsA183jtc; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 20:03:43 +0000 Received: from locutus ([50.170.163.20]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id b83h1o00G0Sj6Ay8j83isd; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 20:03:42 +0000 From: "Jim Gray" To: , , Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 13:58:19 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac+w5FrVvYys7IEiQ5KHt5BxHKT18gAAwFog s=q20140121; t=1407269023; bh=WXw/uXYztsB5YMFn5mnv3fmGK57TY2lhNSIcASUEoLA=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aacxavpT9pcL6EsPAaMGGWefLI8suET2ltsnFkFZUOOCE3GQanB0fDlKaGZM2Zi/I qVEGt2K57YSOy4WrQwsBDbBo1lMs49Q1wjXgDHbwFH1B4z8Alzib3NbsQqzS9UkGXx E6HJVbMXjhCDhPUaaZIwtE5ER+YeKkwHFHjYj8G9tRv5lU3uefLl6bcRc4bGNxCbhi CZBb7ooKkKn9VEWWqWsvUt9GTEm368+0wCRTZtwYxGiEWjgjcmva9DgK2zptrR1PLl okKZ3T5pkw/bdVt3hpiOI3TVIMIxf4bOJxUqnRssKjDQEXEO0IpJb1V5CuUcePPizL T3gIszDhK9VpA== Subject: Re: [Fot] High Plains Raceway RMVR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I would be happy to second but we haven't really been sure what her plans were after Clive's death. I'll send her an email now. jim g -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of R. John Lye Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 1:34 PM To: fot@autox.team.net; wgrosenbach@juno.com Subject: Re: [Fot] High Plains Raceway RMVR Hi Bill, Thanks for that nice piece of news.B It is great to hear that she is carrying on Clive's tradition.B Would she be interested in joining this motley crew?B If so, I would like to nominate her at this time.B Do I have a second?B Bill, can you get her contact info to mjb? Thanks, John On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:37:21 GMT, "wgrosenbach@juno.com" wrote: Amlci, > Ashley Averill made her first attempt at a race weekend with three three > silver, the GT-6 her Dad, Clive built and campaigned since the mid '80s; all > by herself. > She got the car too the track on Friday for some test & tune laps, and things > looked promising for the race. Saturday the car was functioning well enough > for Ashley to notice that she missed the hotter cam that was in the previous > engine configuration. Exiting Corner 5, she had a sudden loss of power, shut > it off and coasted into the runoff at 6. Towed in, it was quickly determined > the car was done for the weekend. A group of FOT members came over and > verified the terminality of the situation, discussed possibilities > for getting > the car ready for the RMVR Enduro and then loaded the GT-6 for Ashley. > She and the car made it home, safe and sound. > Ashley and I would like to thank all of the FOTers for their assistance and > support. > An amazing group! > William Rosenbach, RMVR Race Control > Triumphless and living vicariously. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com > > > -- Thanks, John rjl@gt-classics.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 16:21:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F323B25808C2 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 16:21:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63142580651 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 16:19:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175142C0125 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 16:20:01 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 16:20:01 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Newest Member Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ashley Averill has been added. That puts us at 330 members. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 17:07:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C7025808A1 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 17:07:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC2S21.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s21.hotmail.com [65.55.111.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 414A9258087A for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 17:04:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU173-W1 ([65.55.111.73]) by BLU004-OMC2S21.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Tue, 5 Aug 2014 16:05:25 -0700 From: Henry Morrison To: "wgrosenbach@juno.com" , fot Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 17:05:25 -0600 References: <20140805.123721.27726.1@webmail02.vgs.untd.com> FILETIME=[BE036190:01CFB101] Subject: Re: [Fot] High Plains Raceway RMVR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It was great to see that old familiar GT6 on the track. It's been a fixture since I started running with RMVR back in 1986. Cheers, Henry Morrison, Albuquerque, NM > From: wgrosenbach@juno.com > Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:37:21 +0000 > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] High Plains Raceway RMVR > > Amlci, > Ashley Averill made her first attempt at a race weekend with three three > silver, the GT-6 her Dad, Clive built and campaigned since the mid '80s; all > by herself. > She got the car too the track on Friday for some test & tune laps, and things > looked promising for the race. Saturday the car was functioning well enough > for Ashley to notice that she missed the hotter cam that was in the previous > engine configuration. Exiting Corner 5, she had a sudden loss of power, shut > it off and coasted into the runoff at 6. Towed in, it was quickly determined > the car was done for the weekend. A group of FOT members came over and > verified the terminality of the situation, discussed possibilities for getting > the car ready for the RMVR Enduro and then loaded the GT-6 for Ashley. > She and the car made it home, safe and sound. > Ashley and I would like to thank all of the FOTers for their assistance and > support. > An amazing group! > William Rosenbach, RMVR Race Control > Triumphless and living vicariously. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dos_gusanos@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 18:38:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5641625808C2 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:38:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C032580698 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:36:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.74]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bBQn1o0021bwxycA1CdUVQ; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 00:37:28 +0000 Received: from locutus ([50.170.163.20]) by omta18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bCdS1o00N0Sj6Ay8eCdT4b; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 00:37:27 +0000 From: "Jim Gray" To: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:32:27 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac+xDeYjzT+nd+F4TUa98kf1X3fG+w== s=q20140121; t=1407285448; bh=9sFrOD6HYvRwdC3XXCcNoGlGp6zm8n7KOk1kvT3bwdA=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Vi96nEH58hJvIbw2x+qcCVK99PXlgZO4yFkdbhDPhPtSMEfcyFuJG682enoXgQtZu qplal90lY5dqY7egS0OOe2PX8GimSqDEpkoeMX5jT7LIiSVKoTCYF9jqHVjZbY7hDl 6aVD0PQZ+kWz5ylaLO9YQ+D5FHsRHB0Pn7zt7vTw/8gwzDMABBEF6Qq7IAImIBBnHP Kj36OKtIcZzQVVvYqtqjEWcS/2ceSnWvpga1uv+tRZFDRCatraFGWzjquhvgVtz8Cf JRkG+NmqW9v4XFDZ1yVib76iEIssIwuZ9V2aceMPM83XoVWvhvObZ8EwauEKlISM69 EViBQwUU8Bv+w== Cc: supertot117@yahoo.com, rasendori119@aol.com Subject: [Fot] Nomination, FoT's youngest members ? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FoT, With your blessings I would like to nominate two more drivers who could possibly be our youngest Triumph racers. Mark Eden and current FoT and RMVR member has both of his boys racing TR4's with RMVR. Christian Eden 22 years old and Aaron Eden 18 years old. Christian started last year and I just signed off on Aarons Competition license this past weekend. Both are good drivers and learning to be good mechanics as well. Both have TR6 street cars. Do I have a second for the next generation of Triumph racers ? Jim Gray _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 18:43:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC172584BC9 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:43:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d05.mx.aol.com (omr-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B10212580889 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:43:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-aaa01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-aaa01.mx.aol.com [172.27.1.225]) by omr-d05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 94888700000AF; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 20:43:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-aaa01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 3D8FC38000092; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 20:43:51 -0400 (EDT) References: <20140806003858.C4DE125808B4@autox.team.net> From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 19:43:49 -0500 To: Jim Gray x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1407285831; bh=5oao/PuuJTwCNb8a+pGeNYT/7AsCuoxoAIQTEoTVfLI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=dmp4b6a6RCHxnsFgzicazPIwmeeC+4UHIN6mxakumNOpJ5jPZ1kcG/7bY8LTOTqmq ffT/llKieoaSqJ/M14DWwuW4x8LB8pXrv8mVB5mW8rV3eBmr65fWd7Bta041WZ08J+ 5sEfQ0Si2RLj22QVpUBW1usGERmxp6Y2kbQeUdmM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b01e153e17a4770dd Cc: "supertot117@yahoo.com" , "" , "rasendori119@aol.com" Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination, FoT's youngest members ? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wow! Second..... Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Aug 5, 2014, at 7:32 PM, "Jim Gray" wrote: > > FoT, > > With your blessings I would like to nominate two more drivers who could > possibly be our youngest Triumph racers. > > Mark Eden and current FoT and RMVR member has both of his boys racing TR4's > with RMVR. > > Christian Eden 22 years old and Aaron Eden 18 years old. Christian started > last year and I just signed off on Aarons > > Competition license this past weekend. Both are good drivers and learning to > be good mechanics as well. > > Both have TR6 street cars. > > Do I have a second for the next generation of Triumph racers ? > > Jim Gray > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 18:54:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152802584CE0 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:54:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F0F2584C58 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:52:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEDF82C024E for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:52:35 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 18:52:35 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <20140806003834.494D125849F7@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination, FoT's youngest members ? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Jim Gray wrote: > > Christian Eden 22 years old and Aaron Eden 18 years old. It is so. This list was formed in 1996. You do the math. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 18:54:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2645F2584CEB for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:54:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.centurylink.net (mail.centurylink.net [205.219.233.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCFDD2584CA3 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:52:23 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: , , a=pO0SPEPTVcMYMlHfikgr/Q==:17 a=RAWo0jPMFMcA:10 a=r5i5P4TkNSMA:10 a=pp2u3Hgl5r4A:10 a=Xj_gVYmDKxMA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=nq_iPTBNAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=QEps4B0vAAAA:8 a=jOokZv37QHp584T-C6cA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=TQdRxR6nyrkA:10 a=J1--mjHvEgEA:10 a=pO0SPEPTVcMYMlHfikgr/Q==:117 Authentication-Results: smtp01.agate.dfw.synacor.com smtp.mail=rjl@gt-classics.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp01.agate.dfw.synacor.com header.from=rjl@gt-classics.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp01.agate.dfw.synacor.com smtp.user=rjl6n; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received-SPF: softfail (smtp01.agate.dfw.synacor.com: transitional domain gt-classics.com does not designate 67.237.160.180 as permitted sender) Received: from [67.237.160.180] ([67.237.160.180:27295] helo=[192.168.0.4]) by smtp.centurylink.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.1.37854 r(Momo-dev:3.5.1.0)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=CAMELLIA256-SHA) id 6E/C9-08200-56C71E35; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 20:52:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 20:52:45 -0400 From: "R. John Lye" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100722 Eudora/3.0.4 To: Jim Gray References: <20140806003848.168B825808BA@autox.team.net> Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination, FoT's youngest members ? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Absolutely, I'll second them both. John On 8/5/2014 8:32 PM, Jim Gray wrote: > FoT, > > With your blessings I would like to nominate two more drivers who could > possibly be our youngest Triumph racers. > > Mark Eden and current FoT and RMVR member has both of his boys racing TR4's > with RMVR. > > Christian Eden 22 years old and Aaron Eden 18 years old. Christian started > last year and I just signed off on Aarons > > Competition license this past weekend. Both are good drivers and learning to > be good mechanics as well. > > Both have TR6 street cars. > > Do I have a second for the next generation of Triumph racers ? > > Jim Gray > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com > > > -- Thanks, R. John Lye rjl6n@cstone.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 19:11:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0620D2584CDB for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 19:11:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC2S22.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s22.hotmail.com [65.55.111.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9962580559 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 19:11:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU178-W38 ([65.55.111.73]) by BLU004-OMC2S22.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:11:33 -0700 From: "n. cal" To: FOT Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 19:11:32 -0600 FILETIME=[5CC39410:01CFB113] Subject: [Fot] New RMVR members. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Just wanted to say how good it is to know Ashley, Christian & Aaron are in the FOT fold. I was out in the #6 car surprised by an unusually unhappy water temp gauge, when Aaron slipped past me @ #4 ! Caught me sleepin 'dead to rights' he did..! A bit later, I decided to resume my Asst. Steward duties & enjoy the weekend instead. BTW, it's been mentioned we raised over $120,000 for our charity: the 'Morgan Adams Foundation' ! Congratulations again, to our three new members..! K Lynch #6 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 19:59:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A9732584CE4 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 19:59:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56AA52584CB0 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 19:58:58 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge01 smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [166.176.122.82] ([166.176.122.82:46554] helo=[10.97.248.99]) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id B6/72-10099-FFB81E35; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 01:59:28 +0000 References: <20140806003900.8A4802584BC9@autox.team.net> From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 20:59:26 -0500 To: Jim Gray Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination, FoT's youngest members ? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Absolutely. I thought is was one of the younger ones at 40. This is great news as I have potential buyers when I eventually get forced out if my car in another 40 years. Welcome aboard. Greg > On Aug 5, 2014, at 7:32 PM, "Jim Gray" wrote: > > FoT, > > With your blessings I would like to nominate two more drivers who could > possibly be our youngest Triumph racers. > > Mark Eden and current FoT and RMVR member has both of his boys racing TR4's > with RMVR. > > Christian Eden 22 years old and Aaron Eden 18 years old. Christian started > last year and I just signed off on Aarons > > Competition license this past weekend. Both are good drivers and learning to > be good mechanics as well. > > Both have TR6 street cars. > > Do I have a second for the next generation of Triumph racers ? > > Jim Gray > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 10:24:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957642580938 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 10:24:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m04.mx.aol.com (omr-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A6B25808CC for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 10:24:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aag02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aag02.mx.aol.com [172.26.126.80]) by omr-m04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 97A03700000B2 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 12:24:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mle002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mle002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.126.199]) by mtaomg-aag02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1E38438000081 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 12:24:35 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 12:24:34 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1407342275; bh=wO00QKaaqfqvrzs+A0FGuabwNBXiCHh7LSd/+/7SZNQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LjA+4HxjdpBBxH6e+zazRu+tLrcEQfediHaAnfraepUQMBSpTx/ZglCQ/S+AFF8DX Ip8p4RSb6EV/q7aEPKtodn7VXOioP/cYzFJz8Kn39iRq4KkZT44T2VeN3GwoJn3ErX XsVUCIiDzCB0LV12A50nRW8FR3WaGmft2USTJM2E= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a7e5053e256c37f62 Subject: [Fot] Think Pink... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici... The August photo for this year's SCCA calendar has a great photo of two late model TR3s going at it in early 1960s F Production warfare. The text talks about our own Donna Mae Mims and her Think Pink racing career capped with an SCCA H Production Championship in 1963 (first ever for a woman). Good stuff. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 10:36:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296552580932 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 10:36:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1lp0145.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB9BA25808F9 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 10:29:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BL2PR04MB851.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.242.197.155) by BL2PR04MB852.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.242.197.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.995.14; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 16:30:12 +0000 Received: from BL2PR04MB851.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ([10.242.197.155]) by BL2PR04MB851.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ([10.242.197.155]) with mapi id 15.00.0995.014; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 16:30:12 +0000 From: Michael Moore To: Fot Thread-Topic: HSR at Mid-Ohio Thread-Index: Ac+xkskMFnht3U8hQWmI841j7SgRfg== Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 16:30:11 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [24.165.139.19] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID: x-forefront-prvs: 02951C14DC x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(6009001)(199002)(189002)(107046002)(107886001)(95666004)(2656002)(99286002)(80022001)(558084003)(85852003)(20776003)(64706001)(46102001)(86362001)(66066001)(92566001)(83072002)(19627595001)(33646002)(31966008)(74662001)(74502001)(106356001)(4396001)(19627405001)(229853001)(74316001)(110136001)(85306004)(87936001)(105586002)(18206015026)(19613025002)(99396002)(99936001)(54356999)(50986999)(19300405004)(15975445006)(21056001)(16236675004)(17760045003)(76576001)(81542001)(81342001)(15202345003)(79102001)(101416001)(76482001)(77982001)(19580405001)(19625215002)(19580395003)(83322001)(24736002)(108616003); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:BL2PR04MB852; H:BL2PR04MB851.namprd04.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; LANG:en; Subject: [Fot] HSR at Mid-Ohio Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Has anybody done the HSR event at Mid-Ohio in September before? I would really like to race there but for some reason I get the impression that HSR is really for big bore and more modern race cars. Thanks Mike 62 TR4, Race car 63 TR4, Street car Mike & Becky Moore 6050 Ruhl Road Fairview, PA 16415 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 12:11:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9A22584D94 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 12:11:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7682580896 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 12:05:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.23.238]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0N9W00LUJCX28T30@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 13:05:27 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Michael Moore" , "Fot" References: Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 14:05:27 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] HSR at Mid-Ohio Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Mike, I've not done an HSR event but checked their website. It looks like they have one class, 2, for our cars and entry is $600. It's a non-spectator event. They do have a lot of newer stuff and stock cars. Mid Ohio is great though, and a lot of fun. If you're going and need a crewman, let me know! Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Moore" To: "Fot" Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 12:30 PM Subject: [Fot] HSR at Mid-Ohio > Has anybody done the HSR event at Mid-Ohio in September before? > > I would really like to race there but for some reason I get the impression > that HSR is really for big bore and more modern race cars. > > Thanks > Mike > > 62 TR4, Race car > 63 TR4, Street car > > Mike & Becky Moore > 6050 Ruhl Road > Fairview, PA 16415 > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of > image001.gif] > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 12:23:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B502580B0C for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 12:23:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy3-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy3-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.30.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BF1682580979 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 12:22:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 16097 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2014 18:23:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO CMOut01) (10.0.90.82) by gproxy3.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 2014 18:23:04 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by CMOut01 with id bWNz1o00B1NzpT901WP202; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 12:23:03 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=2DjTwFRkDeYA:10 a=yKqyAkVeGwwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=ge-7xZjFnlFUDpIYv_IA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=51589 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XF5rY-0006aV-3y; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 12:23:00 -0600 Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 13:22:55 -0500 To: Michael Moore ,Fot From: Tony Drews d.outlook.com> References: {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] HSR at Mid-Ohio Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've raced with HSR before, although not at Mid-Ohio. I don't see a problem running with them. They tend to do more "festival" type of events - high dollar, possibly limited track time. They do have a bit of a reputation for somewhat rougher / more aggressive driving than someone like VDCA, but I've not found their events any worse in that regard. Mid-Ohio is a cool track. Was fun watching Indy Cars run there. Tony Drews At 11:30 AM 8/6/2014, Michael Moore wrote: >Has anybody done the HSR event at Mid-Ohio in September before? > >I would really like to race there but for some reason I get the impression >that HSR is really for big bore and more modern race cars. > >Thanks >Mike > >62 TR4, Race car >63 TR4, Street car > >Mike & Becky Moore >6050 Ruhl Road >Fairview, PA 16415 > >[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a >name of image001.gif] >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 13:08:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 174F22584D35 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 13:08:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 658C12584CF8 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 13:00:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [76.84.235.224] ([76.84.235.224:3088] helo=guinanhp) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 8F/4F-14754-C6B72E35; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 19:01:00 +0000 From: "Joe Guinan" To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 14:02:07 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac+xoYNvuuZLYFwZRAqZJkKSdolaLAABsBWQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Synchros Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Is the "Common Knowledge" that repro synchronizer rings are junk still current, or has anyone had success with new batches of these buggers? A friend is having to rebuild a late single rail box because it refused to shift into 2nd gear, and so we thought we ought to at least check on what is available. I have a couple spare single rail boxes laying around, so can probably mix-n-match what we find is needed, but it would sure be nice to not have to tear down several transmissions to fix one. Joe Guinan Fremont, NE _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 13:56:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21242584D14 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 13:56:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430332580442 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 13:46:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [67.255.13.17] ([67.255.13.17:61819] helo=Shop) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 58/CF-14754-F4682E35; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 19:47:28 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: "'Joe Guinan'" References: <016001cfb1a8$ebdbdaf0$c39390d0$@rr.com> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:47:30 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac+xoYNvuuZLYFwZRAqZJkKSdolaLAABsBWQAAGcsNA= Content-Language: en-us Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Synchros Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have been using the synchros from Spitbits and never had a problem on Spitfires and GT-6s. I think you may be confusing these with the synchros for the big TR's, most of which are junk made by the big three in China. There is some hope as I have heard of some German sourced ones that are both correct dimension and proper Rockwell hardness. Moss is selling these as a "premium" synchro as is I believe Rimmer Bros. Russ -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Guinan Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 3:02 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Synchros Is the "Common Knowledge" that repro synchronizer rings are junk still current, or has anyone had success with new batches of these buggers? A friend is having to rebuild a late single rail box because it refused to shift into 2nd gear, and so we thought we ought to at least check on what is available. I have a couple spare single rail boxes laying around, so can probably mix-n-match what we find is needed, but it would sure be nice to not have to tear down several transmissions to fix one. Joe Guinan Fremont, NE _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 14:41:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1112584D1C for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 14:41:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p01c12o143.mxlogic.net (p01c12o143.mxlogic.net [208.65.145.66]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328232580BBC for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 14:41:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO p01c12o143.mxlogic.net) by p01c12o143.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.0.0-3) with ESMTP id 20392e35.2abef17bd940.35595.00-567.104616.p01c12o143.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Wed, 06 Aug 2014 14:41:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] by p01c12o143.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.0.0-3) with SMTP id fe292e35.0.35282.00-310.103902.p01c12o143.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Wed, 06 Aug 2014 14:41:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::c824:a29e:45a5:b81c]) by ATLPEXCAS03.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0181.006; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 16:40:57 -0400 From: John Hasty To: Spitfire Racing Thread-Topic: [Fot] Spitfire Synchros Thread-Index: Ac+xoYNvuuZLYFwZRAqZJkKSdolaLAABsBWQAAGcsNAAAgCbRg== Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 20:40:56 +0000 References: <016001cfb1a8$ebdbdaf0$c39390d0$@rr.com>, <001a01cfb1af$42388ff0$c6a9afd0$@rr.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US a=VR8QHrWKYhK80xkEBGCjUg==] a=DXt] a=xqWC_Br] a=ayC55rCoAAAA:] a=3xnTGmG94uAmLG9ObDUA] a] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" , Joe Guinan Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Synchros Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net My experience is that the German ones are little better.... My close ratio Tr box still scrapes if you try and shift with the speed that racing requires going up in the box. Not as bad going down. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 6, 2014, at 3:56 PM, "Spitfire Racing" wrote: > > I have been using the synchros from Spitbits and never had a problem on > Spitfires and GT-6s. I think you may be confusing these with the synchros > for the big TR's, most of which are junk made by the big three in China. > There is some hope as I have heard of some German sourced ones that are both > correct dimension and proper Rockwell hardness. Moss is selling these as a > "premium" synchro as is I believe Rimmer Bros. > > Russ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Guinan > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 3:02 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Synchros > > Is the "Common Knowledge" that repro synchronizer rings are junk still > current, or has anyone had success with new batches of these buggers? A > friend is having to rebuild a late single rail box because it refused to > shift into 2nd gear, and so we thought we ought to at least check on what is > available. > > I have a couple spare single rail boxes laying around, so can probably > mix-n-match what we find is needed, but it would sure be nice to not have to > tear down several transmissions to fix one. > > Joe Guinan > Fremont, NE > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 15:12:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D40C2584D4C for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:12:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f181.google.com (mail-ig0-f181.google.com [209.85.213.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3CA02584D01 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:03:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f181.google.com with SMTP id h3so3522192igd.2 for ; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 14:04:20 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wcj5u5jNEN4QNFOnJBaKaYgQiOhqj55AeK1Y1P3y4gA=; b=Mdf5PMIqncrkWxrPxn7feh1rykEYu3AxAaO2dgf1nwu63d5VZ3OGLzfGEwxvaW5KFw Wk5eaQUEvcKD+QP9X1c9ReObC0GMayrqiDqVlwXV3OPtg6D3310R338BDCxKB5idi6AE a+xb+9+kBIcIGhCPhNBO/S7F6cQvpxx8AYSjKG8fUi4z61uCvAOoGmlWx8KEv626jvyH +OgzNCLvQhHuU6F7elsX9mQGTNLQAzN7HQ595ALEsqIntTWwuTjBdRqfpPgIS0u+bAD2 aNDzc9PoCJpt/9JOjHFSJ5Tg0ehABUidZPS8QxJtZ7BvbBsEpMVGXeL4RJBBBukeVcQw jq0w== x4mr18013958icf.85.1407359060196; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 14:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.174.198 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 14:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 17:04:20 -0400 From: John Styduhar To: "Triumph 'Friends of Triumph" Subject: [Fot] SVRA Heacock Classic Gold Cup at VIR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici, who is thinking or planning to attend the subject event this September 25-28. Several TRs were there this April for the Wild Hare Run. Those guys put on a real feast. Any comments on the weather there in September. Thanks _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 15:14:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229532584D7F for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:14:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 826B22584D1C for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:07:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [75.86.187.21] ([75.86.187.21:56328] helo=Steve) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 87/7B-08979-54992E35; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 21:08:21 +0000 From: "Steve Yott" To: "'Spitfire Racing'" , "'Joe Guinan'" References: <016001cfb1a8$ebdbdaf0$c39390d0$@rr.com> <001a01cfb1af$42388ff0$c6a9afd0$@rr.com> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 16:08:19 -0500 Thread-Index: AQExBiZiHc+b8Gz5qXLWjHkHo5BKYgLQKSsiAehnSuec26FAQA== Content-Language: en-us Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Synchros Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The late Spitfire (large) synchros offered by the big suppliers are all "County" brand and they are a problem. I have run through many and all of them are of poor quality. The issue is that they are not round and I have measured them as being oval by up to .008" to the point where you can actually feel them rock on the gear. They do not grab the gear as they should mostly because of the out of round issue. The TR (big box) "county" branded synchros seem to work fine in street gearboxes but I don't use these on the competition boxes that I build. For these I use the new German made synchros offered as "heavy duty" synchros from the large suppliers. They seem to be a better build and grab the gear very well. For a Spitfire I recommend digging into a used box and grabbing all the good synchros you can find and especially the 3rd and 4th gear parts as these usually have good life left in them. I have had many issues with the "county" synchros and mostly with 2nd gear not wanting to engage and all were resolved by reusing good original synchros salvaged from other gear boxes. Just my opinion and it sure would be nice if County would investigate this problem and find a solution. Steve Yott Silver Lake Triumph Centre -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Spitfire Racing Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 2:48 PM To: 'Joe Guinan' Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Synchros I have been using the synchros from Spitbits and never had a problem on Spitfires and GT-6s. I think you may be confusing these with the synchros for the big TR's, most of which are junk made by the big three in China. There is some hope as I have heard of some German sourced ones that are both correct dimension and proper Rockwell hardness. Moss is selling these as a "premium" synchro as is I believe Rimmer Bros. Russ -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Guinan Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 3:02 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Synchros Is the "Common Knowledge" that repro synchronizer rings are junk still current, or has anyone had success with new batches of these buggers? A friend is having to rebuild a late single rail box because it refused to shift into 2nd gear, and so we thought we ought to at least check on what is available. I have a couple spare single rail boxes laying around, so can probably mix-n-match what we find is needed, but it would sure be nice to not have to tear down several transmissions to fix one. Joe Guinan Fremont, NE _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 15:45:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00BB82584D30 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:45:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p02c11o143.mxlogic.net (p02c11o143.mxlogic.net [208.65.144.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 911582580B28 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:43:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO p02c11o143.mxlogic.net) by p02c11o143.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.0.0-3) with ESMTP id da1a2e35.2b6888606940.26965.00-506.77525.p02c11o143.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Wed, 06 Aug 2014 15:44:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] by p02c11o143.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.0.0-3) with SMTP id c71a2e35.0.26707.00-359.76884.p02c11o143.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Wed, 06 Aug 2014 15:43:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::c824:a29e:45a5:b81c]) by ATLPEXCAS03.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0181.006; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 17:43:22 -0400 From: John Hasty To: John Styduhar Thread-Topic: [Fot] SVRA Heacock Classic Gold Cup at VIR Thread-Index: AQHPsbs+Hewh22rPPES0zb3Fi700epvEG2sA Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 21:43:21 +0000 References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US a=VR8QHrWKYhK80xkEBGCjUg==] a=hjb] a=kj9zAlc] a=YlVTAMxIAAAA] a=x5] a] a=Z6q] Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] SVRA Heacock Classic Gold Cup at VIR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'll be there. Weather will be 80's great season in this area. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 6, 2014, at 5:13 PM, "John Styduhar" wrote: > > Amici, who is thinking or planning to attend the subject event this > September 25-28. Several TRs were there this April for the Wild Hare Run. > Those guys put on a real feast. Any comments on the weather there in > September. Thanks > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 17:16:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9402580880 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 17:16:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98150258025C for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 17:11:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [72.177.104.32] ([72.177.104.32:49883] helo=BlakePC) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 73/AE-02695-A56B2E35; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 23:12:26 +0000 From: "Greg & Alison Blake" To: "'FoT Triumph'" Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 18:12:25 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac+xy4wABI4qv8u0T8uxgl5/RIoKDw== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] TR6 cast piston clearance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I am building a motor for an endurance race TR6 (Chump, WRL.) I'd like to know what the group recommends for piston to bore clearance for a County brand +0.040" piston. These are cast pistons. Thanks in advance. Greg _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 17:16:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 588A52584451 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 17:16:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f177.google.com (mail-ie0-f177.google.com [209.85.223.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DC82580427 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 17:13:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f177.google.com with SMTP id at20so3714610iec.36 for ; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 16:13:42 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=2uDnpzFPp1qjc/zA+NijPYCEdPcFtmWxdjCbj32/z6o=; b=Rdwkpo5LmCgG4u3hF9tjOuRnxDohYIRiIfgJbgxxhS7rBks0c+SRkEANJL6dkY7pdJ pkNFekQGBu/zyUmb5ix5Zh0Y7aIVjEXIseZTAjBLZRbUhzDGog/WJ2TwvvKLx5UXgsYK fEzZX2Brnv3E/GE3FXaEO0j434ZqBp29rZCnb7tnVYidcNZHZsfSduWv0BWymjYXmWPy hq0YHRV/fOHoY2/JlkCucKJCbXBBvhCklBMsyzbNvD2r+eLpmEJ2cmgd2nh2Kylp+wtM I1Hlvdthj13i9q0Lp3irkt0H85BXfjahnrExSgKc5wgEG34ux3De+lBtE3R3+JZj2vBl Ymfg== s3mr22973621igr.29.1407366822496; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 16:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.174.198 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 16:13:42 -0700 (PDT) References: <016001cfb1a8$ebdbdaf0$c39390d0$@rr.com> <001a01cfb1af$42388ff0$c6a9afd0$@rr.com> <002101cfb1ba$8ccd6c60$a6684520$@wi.rr.com> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 19:13:42 -0400 From: John Styduhar To: Steve Yott , "Triumph 'Friends of Triumph" Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Synchros Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Steve, is there any stamping or other identification marking on the better synchros for the TR3-4 box, or do they look the same as the other brand? On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Steve Yott wrote: > The late Spitfire (large) synchros offered by the big suppliers are all > "County" brand and they are a problem. I have run through many and all of > them are of poor quality. The issue is that they are not round and I have > measured them as being oval by up to .008" to the point where you can > actually feel them rock on the gear. They do not grab the gear as they > should mostly because of the out of round issue. The TR (big box) > "county" > branded synchros seem to work fine in street gearboxes but I don't use > these > on the competition boxes that I build. For these I use the new German made > synchros offered as "heavy duty" synchros from the large suppliers. They > seem to be a better build and grab the gear very well. > > For a Spitfire I recommend digging into a used box and grabbing all the > good > synchros you can find and especially the 3rd and 4th gear parts as these > usually have good life left in them. I have had many issues with the > "county" synchros and mostly with 2nd gear not wanting to engage and all > were resolved by reusing good original synchros salvaged from other gear > boxes. > > Just my opinion and it sure would be nice if County would investigate this > problem and find a solution. > > Steve Yott > Silver Lake Triumph Centre > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Spitfire Racing > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 2:48 PM > To: 'Joe Guinan' > Cc: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Synchros > > I have been using the synchros from Spitbits and never had a problem on > Spitfires and GT-6s. I think you may be confusing these with the synchros > for the big TR's, most of which are junk made by the big three in China. > There is some hope as I have heard of some German sourced ones that are > both > correct dimension and proper Rockwell hardness. Moss is selling these as a > "premium" synchro as is I believe Rimmer Bros. > > Russ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Guinan > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 3:02 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Synchros > > Is the "Common Knowledge" that repro synchronizer rings are junk still > current, or has anyone had success with new batches of these buggers? A > friend is having to rebuild a late single rail box because it refused to > shift into 2nd gear, and so we thought we ought to at least check on what > is > available. > > I have a couple spare single rail boxes laying around, so can probably > mix-n-match what we find is needed, but it would sure be nice to not have > to > tear down several transmissions to fix one. > > Joe Guinan > Fremont, NE > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 17:31:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704EA2584447 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 17:31:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 778752580569 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 17:18:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [75.86.187.21] ([75.86.187.21:59444] helo=Steve) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 67/65-08979-BE7B2E35; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 23:19:07 +0000 From: "Steve Yott" To: "'John Styduhar'" , "'Triumph 'Friends of Triumph'" References: <016001cfb1a8$ebdbdaf0$c39390d0$@rr.com><001a01cfb1af$42388ff0$c6a9afd0$@rr.com><002101cfb1ba$8ccd6c60$a6684520$@wi.rr.com> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 18:19:06 -0500 Thread-Index: AQExBiZiHc+b8Gz5qXLWjHkHo5BKYgLQKSsiAehnSucC82xo7QIsdNsnnLLI+nA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Synchros Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Great questionb&. There is no other identification!!! Kind of scaryb&b&. The difference that I see is that the County versions are packed in County labeled cardboardb& the bbetterb version is packed in a non-descript cardboard.. If we only knew!!! Steve From: John Styduhar [mailto:johnstydo@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 6:14 PM To: Steve Yott; Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Synchros Steve, is there any stamping or other identification marking on the better synchros for the TR3-4 box, or do they look the same as the other brand? On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Steve Yott Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C73A25844B1 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 17:48:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD0D2580765 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 17:40:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [75.86.187.21] ([75.86.187.21:60237] helo=Steve) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 3D/FC-08979-E1DB2E35; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 23:41:18 +0000 From: "Steve Yott" To: "'Greg & Alison Blake'" , "'FoT Triumph'" References: <000901cfb1cb$e30cfb70$a926f250$@austin.rr.com> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 18:41:17 -0500 Thread-Index: AQIkjFV5fj39N50AMSUYIBO1KpsVwJsahwbw Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 cast piston clearance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I use .002" for all TR6 cast pistons... Steve Yott -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg & Alison Blake Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 6:12 PM To: 'FoT Triumph' Subject: [Fot] TR6 cast piston clearance I am building a motor for an endurance race TR6 (Chump, WRL.) I'd like to know what the group recommends for piston to bore clearance for a County brand +0.040" piston. These are cast pistons. Thanks in advance. Greg _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 19:36:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E1A258445A for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 19:36:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067D92584447 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 19:07:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from new-host-2.home (pool-71-162-132-246.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [71.162.132.246]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0N9W00JD6WHC2I10@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 01:08:03 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.27,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-08-06_07:2014-08-06,2014-08-06,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=11 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1408070015 From: Scott Janzen Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 21:09:18 -0400 References: <016001cfb1a8$ebdbdaf0$c39390d0$@rr.com> <001a01cfb1af$42388ff0$c6a9afd0$@rr.com> <002101cfb1ba$8ccd6c60$a6684520$@wi.rr.com> <000901cfb1cc$d188c540$749a4fc0$@wi.rr.com> To: Steve Yott Cc: 'Triumph 'Friends of Triumph' Subject: [Fot] TR4 -6 Synchros Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Matt Bakes at Triumph Rescue has been building my gearboxes (TR4-6) and he tells me he gets heavy-duty synchros from from Moss UK. I find it really hard to shift badly enough to grind a gear, and they certainly have been lasting two seasons or so before I pre-emptively have him "freshen" the box, not because any have failed. On Aug 6, 2014, at 7:19 PM, Steve Yott wrote: Great questionb&. There is no other identification!!! Kind of scaryb&b&. The difference that I see is that the County versions are packed in County labeled cardboardb& the bbetterb version is packed in a non-descript cardboard.. If we only knew!!! Steve From: John Styduhar [mailto:johnstydo@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 6:14 PM To: Steve Yott; Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Synchros Steve, is there any stamping or other identification marking on the better synchros for the TR3-4 box, or do they look the same as the other brand? On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Steve Yott Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E8C258445F for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 21:06:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm11-vm8.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm11-vm8.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A8E12580043 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 20:48:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.162] by nm11.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2014 02:48:40 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.130] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2014 02:48:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1006.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2014 02:48:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 42521 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Aug 2014 02:48:39 -0000 s=s1024; t=1407379719; bh=P09MENYtuTkN99NsTPfhIE4U2+4q4HlCSjmN9G6ZV4M=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oN4Wp+cwsoQu3168IHQv7DuyY7Phay+vFg0vs4U11BeHNpzFoUEi3LCw81euTWPXaUzoLdAKyagRrd+U6KhO0vjsJg1AZO+oA6tlNT72u8aXwUCEasvSaykJ+npZSsAt8kE7IMgd3IxxEQG8ya88E9Y5f/0OmjG+G8PcBU1dn9M= rhm66HMUKmKN_O9QSlP6ho5DXymqcma3LDZo_bluXMVsyJmuOabNpp92U.kF SK60BrDVFAicrIXyccrMoiIMDTT69AuDapGqX5TkHpa5MdGMcOpw2qqbVaJ5 Y_2SevyLPJTj61imZa7_RVYhjk8BKekyuMdpKP0ff.gLt7bDr9LrvY8kOCg1 55RKrNruhIOHu.NL1PQREOcLBa1jcmTY58aeOYkJOop_XSb9riVJtkR.WJy2 xlFa3MzS41eDtdMO7Te4WRwR19uDvXITFszudKjHts6Z_YkJcA4UUPnKDapy EOTAIHVW284ZpbQGgjxGKyLXE_pe2KK9U3ZMDPcDiKdNdAWU.07u4g39iw8o pfNWQyYd8Q0ZER60dxfZOOZUxBkPq5OtKloBHriiA4Xz6pQHMOBtzoYaQAFw jB1I0.6e3QSjxEM55iflYpdpdXExSHn_d6H8BCvHRQEOz3BTe1ZSGyaGDzoX 9uA0lOCjPfLLiTtcFFHQwyYEOjKr94TsHqAVdjQKau2_VTLVGobLUJ8wtUIi 6nXM9aCnGOho- Received: from [24.246.135.239] by web181304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 19:48:39 PDT TmljZSEhISEhISEhISEhISEhISEKCgoKT24gV2VkbmVzZGF5LCBBdWd1c3QgNiwgMjAxNCA1OjQ2IFBNLCBKb2huIEhhc3R5IDxqaGFzdHlAbWhjLWxhdy5jb20.IHdyb3RlOgogCgoKSSdsbCBiZSB0aGVyZS4gV2VhdGhlciB3aWxsIGJlIDgwJ3MgZ3JlYXQgc2Vhc29uIGluIHRoaXMgYXJlYS4KClNlbnQgZnJvbSBteSBpUGhvbmUKCj4gT24gQXVnIDYsIDIwMTQsIGF0IDU6MTMgUE0sICJKb2huIFN0eWR1aGFyIiA8am9obnN0eWRvQGdtYWlsLmNvbT4gd3JvdGU6Cj4KPiBBbWljaSwgd2hvIGlzIHRoaW5raW4BMAEBAQE- References: <8C423F79-B555-40A6-B2D8-9734F682605B@mhc-law.com> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 19:48:39 -0700 From: Rick Parent To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] SVRA Heacock Classic Gold Cup at VIR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 5:46 PM, John Hasty wrote: I'll be there. Weather will be 80's great season in this area. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 6, 2014, at 5:13 PM, "John Styduhar" wrote: > > Amici, who is thinking or planning to attend the subject event this > September 25-28. Several TRs were there this April for the Wild Hare Run. > Those guys put on a real feast. Any comments on the weather there in > September. Thanks > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rick.parent@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 08:52:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1422584DB8 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 08:52:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from e9.ny.us.ibm.com (e9.ny.us.ibm.com [32.97.182.139]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C792584923 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 08:48:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from /spool/local by e9.ny.us.ibm.com with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! 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Violators will be prosecuted; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 10:48:36 -0400 Received: from b01cxnp22034.gho.pok.ibm.com (b01cxnp22034.gho.pok.ibm.com [9.57.198.24]) by d01dlp02.pok.ibm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A746E801A for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 10:48:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d01av05.pok.ibm.com (d01av05.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.195]) by b01cxnp22034.gho.pok.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id s77EmRPR65143030 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 14:48:36 GMT Received: from d01av05.pok.ibm.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by d01av05.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id s77Em3mY022092 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 10:48:03 -0400 Received: from d01ml099.pok.ibm.com (d01ml099.pok.ibm.com [9.63.8.34]) by d01av05.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/NCO v10.0 AVin) with ESMTP id s77Em3rx021306 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 10:48:03 -0400 To: fot@autox.team.net From: George Harmuth Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 10:47:48 -0400 9.0.1FP1|April 03, 2014) at 08/07/2014 10:48:04 x-cbid: 14080714-7182-0000-0000-000000265575 Subject: [Fot] Photo spread from Pittsburgh GP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sports Car Digest just posted a photo gallery from the Pittsburgh GP with a number of Triumphs, many with familiar names to this list, in the feature section. If you don't see your car in the feature section, go to the last page for the second galley of smaller, but still well done, pictures. The title picture is a nice shot of a TR4A. This event is on my bucket list, too bad it conflicts with an SCCA historic event I run every year at Watkins Glen. http://www.sportscardigest.com/pittsburgh-vintage-grand-prix-2014-report-phot os/ G. Michael Harmuth 63 Spitfire _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 09:54:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8FC2584DCC for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 09:54:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f175.google.com (mail-ie0-f175.google.com [209.85.223.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7492584D9C for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 09:54:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f175.google.com with SMTP id x19so4926329ier.34 for ; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 08:54:36 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=xplqadBk6Tw10hnZlyNznkhETFySsxJuXfjjkg5itos=; b=XwR3bvoPEtkfpDMrGzpWbqvz/gAB2s5RM4Ga6rnCUPvuCvIg0xRXw+BzsjNc1leZtV jMNmsmE1n4RzEVDcbGuOyKHjjmRiddQqEzEPzn57TAvgVx+YwKPDCUmJx/nOhsq/8K5/ +6v6CMHv+P62vNpbUDWGra/c7U+8hbiwWE1IpLOjtjb6xDg3qQR1fSInXPn2kDfJSo6q J/qkTmT5zlOltb0n3o7VtvNUz2aTIAtNrjNQqcly9UiptvjQjqjHZGP5TLpbW7pbb8+9 sM/sx3Ij1OhPKUbfKd0TN9ZAb5R4huLmUT9lKyP6H0O8XSLf7C1HKBdgLQRIEMVrPtOS zkyQ== ki4mr61254001igb.16.1407426876512; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 08:54:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.174.198 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 08:54:36 -0700 (PDT) References: <016001cfb1a8$ebdbdaf0$c39390d0$@rr.com> <001a01cfb1af$42388ff0$c6a9afd0$@rr.com> <002101cfb1ba$8ccd6c60$a6684520$@wi.rr.com> <000901cfb1cc$d188c540$749a4fc0$@wi.rr.com> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 11:54:36 -0400 From: John Styduhar To: Scott Janzen , "Triumph 'Friends of Triumph" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 -6 Synchros Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The last set of TR3-4 synchro rings I bought had Triumph factory part number 113431 stamped on each one. Not sure if these were HD or knock-offs. The seller claimed they were premium quality, but for the price I paid, I think they were the latter. On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Scott Janzen wrote: > Matt Bakes at Triumph Rescue has been building my gearboxes (TR4-6) and he > tells me he gets heavy-duty synchros from from Moss UK. I find it really > hard to shift badly enough to grind a gear, and they certainly have been > lasting two seasons or so before I pre-emptively have him "freshen" the > box, not because any have failed. > > On Aug 6, 2014, at 7:19 PM, Steve Yott wrote: > > Great questionb&. There is no other identification!!! Kind of scaryb&b&. > The difference that I see is that the County versions are packed in County > labeled cardboardb& the b betterb version is packed in a non-descript > cardboard.. > > > > If we only knew!!! > > > > Steve > > > > From: John Styduhar [mailto:johnstydo@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 6:14 PM > To: Steve Yott; Triumph 'Friends of Triumph > Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Synchros > > > > Steve, is there any stamping or other identification marking on the better > synchros for the TR3-4 box, or do they look the same as the other brand? > > > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Steve Yott > The late Spitfire (large) synchros offered by the big suppliers are all > "County" brand and they are a problem. I have run through many and all of > them are of poor quality. The issue is that they are not round and I have > measured them as being oval by up to .008" to the point where you can > actually feel them rock on the gear. They do not grab the gear as they > should mostly because of the out of round issue. The TR (big box) > "county" > branded synchros seem to work fine in street gearboxes but I don't use > these > on the competition boxes that I build. For these I use the new German made > synchros offered as "heavy duty" synchros from the large suppliers. They > seem to be a better build and grab the gear very well. > > For a Spitfire I recommend digging into a used box and grabbing all the > good > synchros you can find and especially the 3rd and 4th gear parts as these > usually have good life left in them. I have had many issues with the > "county" synchros and mostly with 2nd gear not wanting to engage and all > were resolved by reusing good original synchros salvaged from other gear > boxes. > > Just my opinion and it sure would be nice if County would investigate this > problem and find a solution. > > Steve Yott > Silver Lake Triumph Centre > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net > Behalf Of Spitfire Racing > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 2:48 PM > To: 'Joe Guinan' > Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Synchros > > I have been using the synchros from Spitbits and never had a problem on > Spitfires and GT-6s. I think you may be confusing these with the synchros > for the big TR's, most of which are junk made by the big three in China. > There is some hope as I have heard of some German sourced ones that are > both > correct dimension and proper Rockwell hardness. Moss is selling these as a > "premium" synchro as is I believe Rimmer Bros. > > Russ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net > Behalf Of Joe Guinan > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 3:02 PM > Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Synchros > > Is the "Common Knowledge" that repro synchronizer rings are junk still > current, or has anyone had success with new batches of these buggers? A > friend is having to rebuild a late single rail box because it refused to > shift into 2nd gear, and so we thought we ought to at least check on what > is > available. > > I have a couple spare single rail boxes laying around, so can probably > mix-n-match what we find is needed, but it would sure be nice to not have > to > tear down several transmissions to fix one. > > Joe Guinan > Fremont, NE > _______________________________________________ > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 12:46:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B4C2584584 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 12:46:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f54.google.com (mail-oa0-f54.google.com [209.85.219.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BA22584485; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 12:46:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id n16so3333993oag.27 for ; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 11:46:54 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=VkCBEI/QbO+uEmkl831awRhQE9mSGw1zPm/OEm2F/I0=; b=tR2eFq5TuacDfy57vo11oQsUBlqt6KdTbzID1Mxyp95UZKwepf4ovLBrbiK+zqVG84 pJ/uNyYt2/L9fHK74p9bKTJ6obr5OrYtxkQlj+aVKMyDW3F1g5qX92NT2wd8zglFnhAd W48QyIIByxhoz+8LVezpHgrl7c6c3wTsff9Cw+jm/2mZbRS8ubZEh+Qponr7cpHCWFFO wZg2WqDzErATootBj6xWcfhoMGmriJJsTyQofhiyR6b46NumB404HlZyTkTI/1Km+56m jgRmJa+/Lxbirw7AIrPioL/MAu0t/N5UPlAXtcEqdrJ5LVhNtVJUJlGRmdxAlIZ9V3Kd s29Q== li3mr24938446oeb.17.1407437214762; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 11:46:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (24-121-172-242.npg.sta.suddenlink.net. [24.121.172.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id u5sm10502643obt.18.2014.08.07.11.46.53 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Aug 2014 11:46:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 11:46:52 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: the Land Rover Owner Mailing List , Triumph List , FOT References: Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Petition to allow importing cars sooner 15 years instead of 25 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net There is a new petition to eliminate the 25 year restriction for importing vehicles into the US. http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1093729_want-those-gray-market-cars-sooner-join-petrolicious-and-take-a-stand Or directly to the petition: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/repeal-dotepa-%E2%80%9C25-year-rule%E2%80%9D-car-import-ban-15-years-and-allow-importation-non-conforming-cars-and/PhZ4RMgz _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 16:14:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282B12584585 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 16:14:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f53.google.com (mail-oi0-f53.google.com [209.85.218.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6941125844DE for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 16:12:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f53.google.com with SMTP id e131so3117748oig.40 for ; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 15:13:09 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=NftQixrX55V0v3fPenRu79h/kNlYTxB6Zu/tft7f288=; b=Wo2FvAAQhy93xvMxgeQnlbP2TxxtlGvkKYVKJrLk+wYYTySpt4aygqMpc/SDUoFOkc RTzIK/CK4afn95klIAziKHblOBgUvw/YcKhW/p8b1mV9U6vNiOtytU6VURmzWgfSaPJ1 3PvWSvMFZj5GPjrcYETajSdeoCjbF8lYG8RHbY7ykFeZU4Zkensht6otgW0H0vQeOPzg Kn567tZef9UanTF6BLU6iBGCgasnjkj9D7FVDI+GgIAIK7kTPfqN8oiqqYOa4oiKV2PW zmTjw4TqcjTdT4UyX+rDAnwYKMRWavPZj/MVVAFqhbd0QWspXzGa2eVJKz1NGbSZCEef egig== jg3mr26541380obb.9.1407449589012; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 15:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.107.3 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 15:12:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Enquiries Road & Track" Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 08:12:48 +1000 To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] re TR4 -6 Synchros Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net i posted a similar question recently. like others, i've found the county branded syncro cones to be rubbish. this can be detected at build time, as the amount of out-of-round is really obvious. i have yet to try any "premium" versions from the big suppliers. Terry O'Beirne Australia _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 09:29:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1521F2584DEC for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 09:29:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from DUB004-OMC2S7.hotmail.com (dub004-omc2s7.hotmail.com [157.55.1.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B952580042 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 09:23:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DUB119-W48 ([157.55.1.138]) by DUB004-OMC2S7.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Fri, 8 Aug 2014 08:23:59 -0700 From: John To: "fot@autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 15:23:58 +0000 References: FILETIME=[C6C30700:01CFB31C] Subject: [Fot] Triumph Race Film Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I don't know if this has been seen on the list yet but Chris Marx and the Triumph Competition & British GT racing group asked us to shoot a video at the Nurburgring Historic Trophy. Chris will have copies of the DVD with him at the next race meeting which I think is Zolder next weekend. We're also hopeful Joe Alexander will have a few for sale shortly and maybe Ted Schumacher too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci-hDRBRpO0 In the meantime, copies can be had from www.triumphdvd.co.uk. We're hopeful enough people find this race film interesting enough that we can attempt something very similar at next year's Kastner Cup so any comments in that regards gratefully received. John. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 09:45:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1442584DD6 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 09:45:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E5625808BD for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 09:40:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.89]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cEm31o0041vN32cA2FhHPb; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 15:41:17 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:2601:1:9700:131a:d4d3:592c:2d8f:cdf] ([IPv6:2601:1:9700:131a:d4d3:592c:2d8f:cdf]) by omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cFhF1o00Y5C6LC98iFhGVx; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 15:41:16 +0000 From: Bud R Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 09:41:14 -0600 To: "fot@autox.team.net Triumph" s=q20140121; t=1407512477; bh=M1v2cUVMHRW9SWCr4m9ECeMqSiBrquxXi4GCyxNH83E=; h=Received:Received:From:Content-Type:Date:Subject:To:Message-Id: Mime-Version; b=Iw7lu1F52M+/R0WJWeUcgWZPKVeWLSqiqZjS77wCXm5t6M7qdEYBf9eqo2EuEm8L4 Zv+qPhqp9VBqdNnPUd6xdiRKDf8utj0JL+ZvDN0a2LkGuRwIQxpo2eIv1Z+GRl1hze zYB0MorEDQVx0BBhyRsuvy5bxWz8FnglOdMpJi9Laun1WJ4dVPfo3VLvgFEGNgdLum RyuMTd0AhiwDxDteZgmyqHPaQ5EztXt1fyTUwSQzxOVypB7JOPT/8lxp7M2zv8MRr7 jn2AZ39pnI+NlwAIn166cNrdnT7RKk6pAflKMgc06Sp/GNvV2+Key8hrZB3n+VUaYd NbAErluuryGrg== Subject: [Fot] Valvce Guide Clearances for Cast Iron Guides? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Listerati, What clearances should be run on Spitfire 1300 intake and exhaust cast iron valve guides? Stock plus 0.0005 inches? One source says 0.0008 intake and 0.0015 for exhaust are stock. Please tell me your thoughts on those clearances, or if you know what they should be, or what youve successfully run them at. Adding in the additional 0.0005 would give me 0.0013 intake and 0.0020 on exhaust. Seems a little tight eh? This is for a race engine BTW. Thanks Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 11:48:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B17402584E17 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 11:48:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from DUB004-OMC2S34.hotmail.com (dub004-omc2s34.hotmail.com [157.55.1.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A16258046D for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 11:47:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DUB119-W40 ([157.55.1.138]) by DUB004-OMC2S34.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Fri, 8 Aug 2014 10:48:14 -0700 From: John To: "fot@autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 17:48:14 +0000 References: , FILETIME=[EE023D40:01CFB330] Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph Race Film Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A very much appreciated email from Joe Alexander below. Joe is having trouble posting to the list right now so he asked me to do it. FOT, If you order and pay for this great John Clancy DVD in advance, I will collect the orders, ship the DVDs, and do it at our COST. It's a chance to see our counterparts in Europe at their best with our Triumphs. Chris Marx is nicely featured although he was eventually thwarted in his attempt to race the TR8, by extremely diligent scrutineering. I first met John Clancy when Kas brought him to our Paddock at the Mitty for a discussion on the DVDs. I was truly impressed with the outcome of the "California Air" DVD, especially since the Kastner interview was so nicely wrapped about that years Kastner Cup. John and I entered into discussions about his attendance at Road America, for that Kastner Cup, but it was not to be. The discussions now continue on for his video coverage of the Kastner Cup at Summit Point next May. It appears very promising at this point. Your interest in his outstanding videos serves as great encouragement for his attendance and involvement. In the next week or so, I will place an order for those folks interested in seeing Triumphs run at Nurburgring. I am watching it right now. :-) Once I determine the costs, I will forward that information on. Best Regards, Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From: bfcc@hotmail.co.uk To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Triumph Race Film Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 15:23:58 +0000 I don't know if this has been seen on the list yet but Chris Marx and the Triumph Competition & British GT racing group asked us to shoot a video at the Nurburgring Historic Trophy. Chris will have copies of the DVD with him at the next race meeting which I think is Zolder next weekend. We're also hopeful Joe Alexander will have a few for sale shortly and maybe Ted Schumacher too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci-hDRBRpO0 In the meantime, copies can be had from www.triumphdvd.co.uk. We're hopeful enough people find this race film interesting enough that we can attempt something very similar at next year's Kastner Cup so any comments in that regards gratefully received. John. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 12:07:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A6F2584E1C for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 12:07:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qg0-f44.google.com (mail-qg0-f44.google.com [209.85.192.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9375F2580409 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 12:07:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id e89so6445678qgf.17 for ; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 11:08:08 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=KuCq7X8U2+NKIxOuNliPHiEXAzM69I7VPTjM+O6Telk=; b=p1Ef1FF+n6koSBCEOZVtbqI1wR9CVjVXJ2eFeEKpp7NPx5wOPEdFzu7XN5evR0pKxg ty5Tq7ug4swyTMLT7PZiWJrj6u7qUtxQ2isxDkOZeQqX0OKmzZ8rEu2q1K1pfQL/aq82 Y0GJJaZAZa2BY1F3OnbkWgozZ2JrZv0oEA7r9uO9EWtEJSD2VZbQXhczmzvI7uDxvJd1 pfUmdnGMgo4Dg8+OEtgLMDUpqOC37LftvO3/Z61erVlGWKqvY9lpKnyCzQijPkEUOubw qOoo06eGcrAqE8VCnhIxTNuVH4J5o9caTQcJN9S9RCwiAthodAel8QNoXextl5S751pW wIZw== g3mr41662495qas.0.1407521288815; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 11:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.88.135 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 11:07:28 -0700 (PDT) References: <3714533.483509.1407424832827.JavaMail.root@vznit170136> <1407436372.37708.YahooMailNeo@web184901.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <2335943100275829865@unknownmsgid> From: Kas Kastner Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 11:07:28 -0700 To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Fw: Fwd: How Quick is Quick ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is kind of fun to watch. *Never be beaten by equipment.* *Subject:* How Quick is Quick ?? *This is quite an interesting speed comparison !! Be sure to watch the quickest at the end... * *By the way for those of you that dislike the metric system here is a **speed conversion chart below!* *100 KM/H = 62.14 MPH * *200 KM/H = 124.27 MPH* *300 KM/H = 186.41 MPH * *click here for video:* *https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=625747924150290* -- *Winkster* _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 12:47:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ECDC2584E1C for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 12:47:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m09.mx.aol.com (omr-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2DF258046D for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 12:45:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mce01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mce01.mx.aol.com [172.29.27.205]) by omr-m09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 290CF700000BD; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 14:45:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mce01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 7C1B038000090; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 14:45:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 13:45:45 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net, John x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1407523547; bh=P+ju/Ib0HkbE12sLQc2HilZa29F+u3Npu/o/Lpzwc8A=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=REBOke7V8kGIaXJ8h/KslcyWRfRhe9sNUYhl0CeCfq7DvBz1j2c/Aaj3aFQlId0hl fgJFmDTrFrfaDXbPH49hqhM6t+QcDHWm8fCUrn7O4svuhF89WQuJIoiJ4Ex0NRQ0LP lH/9ElJolJDcU/4+UATAymVSHr/u9uU4Oc/PwM1Q= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d1bcd53e51ada652c Subject: [Fot] Triumphs at Nurbringring. DVD By John Clancy Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT Ok, here it is. Advance order copies, prepaid. $15.50. That's about 1/2 Price. PayPay = n197tr4@cs.com Allow some time for shipping and processing. Nice companion piece to "California Air". Good time to order other titles from John Clancy. Meet John Clancy at Summit Point next May at the Kastner Cup....... Thanks...... Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 16:20:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB992584517 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 16:20:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from COL004-OMC2S3.hotmail.com (col004-omc2s3.hotmail.com [65.55.34.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61CA92580790 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 16:15:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from COL130-DS3 ([65.55.34.71]) by COL004-OMC2S3.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Fri, 8 Aug 2014 15:15:52 -0700 From: "Terry Stetler" To: "FOT" , "Kas Kastner" References: <3714533.483509.1407424832827.JavaMail.root@vznit170136> <1407436372.37708.YahooMailNeo@web184901.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <2335943100275829865@unknownmsgid> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 18:15:51 -0400 <1407436372.37708.YahooMailNeo@web184901.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <2335943100275829865@unknownmsgid> Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 18:15:51 -0400 FILETIME=[5109CD70:01CFB356] Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Fw: Fwd: How Quick is Quick ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It's amazing how fast the street cars in this video are, and even more amazing is how relaxed the drivers appear to be as they click off speeds that took dedicated race cars to achieve not all that long ago. I think I'll keep my TR3 street car though. I don't have to drive it at orbital escape velocity to have fun with it. Terry Stetler ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 2:07 PM Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Fw: Fwd: How Quick is Quick ?? This is kind of fun to watch. *Never be beaten by equipment.* *Subject:* How Quick is Quick ?? *This is quite an interesting speed comparison !! Be sure to watch the quickest at the end... * *By the way for those of you that dislike the metric system here is a **speed conversion chart below!* *100 KM/H = 62.14 MPH * *200 KM/H = 124.27 MPH* *300 KM/H = 186.41 MPH * *click here for video:* *https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=625747924150290* > -- *Winkster* _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tlizzard@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 9 08:08:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7ADA25807BC for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 08:08:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p02c12o148.mxlogic.net (p02c12o148.mxlogic.net [208.65.145.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782F525805EE for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 08:07:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO ATLPEXCAS01.xc.lan) by p02c12o148.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.0.0-3) with ESMTP id 44b26e35.2aebfd207940.51571.00-555.117655.p02c12o148.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Sat, 09 Aug 2014 08:08:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO ATLPEXCAS01.xc.lan) by p02c12o148.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.0.0-3) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id c2b26e35.0.51505.00-384.117476.p02c12o148.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Sat, 09 Aug 2014 08:07:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::c824:a29e:45a5:b81c]) by ATLPEXCAS01.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 10:07:39 -0400 From: John Hasty To: Terry Stetler Thread-Topic: [Fot] Fwd: Fw: Fwd: How Quick is Quick ?? Thread-Index: AQHPs1cxkwGukISA20yEMaCccxfh25vIT+De Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 14:07:39 +0000 References: <3714533.483509.1407424832827.JavaMail.root@vznit170136> <1407436372.37708.YahooMailNeo@web184901.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <2335943100275829865@unknownmsgid> , Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US a=VR8QHrWKYhK80xkEBGCjUg==] a=fqY] a=kj9zAlc] a=YlVTAMxIAAAA] a=3j] a=es7t6D3aZ] a=m3MdUl] a=MSl-tDqOz0] Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Fw: Fwd: How Quick is Quick ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Is there a way to view this without joining Facebook? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 8, 2014, at 6:22 PM, "Terry Stetler" wrote: > > It's amazing how fast the street cars in this video are, and even more amazing > is how relaxed the drivers appear to be > > as they click off speeds that took dedicated race cars to achieve not all that > long ago. > > > > I think I'll keep my TR3 street car though. > > > > I don't have to drive it at orbital escape velocity to have fun with it. > > > > > > Terry Stetler > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 2:07 PM > > Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Fw: Fwd: How Quick is Quick ?? > > > > This is kind of fun to watch. > > *Never be beaten by equipment.* > > > *Subject:* How Quick is Quick ?? > *This is quite an interesting speed comparison !! Be sure to watch the > quickest at the end... * > *By the way for those of you that dislike the metric system here is a **speed > conversion chart below!* > > > *100 KM/H = 62.14 MPH * > *200 KM/H = 124.27 MPH* > *300 KM/H = 186.41 MPH * > *click here for video:* > *https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=625747924150290* > m/photo.php?v=625747924150290>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > *Winkster* > _______________________________________________ > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tlizzard@msn.com net/mailman/options/fot/tlizzard@msn.com> > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 9 10:08:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2436A2584FFB for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 10:08:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy8-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy8-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.33.93]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id CEC9D2580510 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 10:07:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 3162 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2014 16:07:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw3) (10.0.90.84) by gproxy8.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 2014 16:07:40 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw3 with id cm7Y1o00D1NzpT901m7bDS; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:07:38 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=yWg-58dA2lgA:10 a=fqYrMnG-d2kA:10 a=yKqyAkVeGwwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=f_g0LS2cAAAA:20 a=AAvYLDLOAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=3j4BkbkPAAAA:8 a=nyC_o9JJAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=e66q1VIsAAAA:8 a=XQKGc1_2jF8npfYLHbYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=BcS1UwHKGR0A:10 a=s2loLT2QvaoA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=Z6qnhhopSLEA:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=57513 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XG9B7-00041e-Gm; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 10:07:33 -0600 Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 11:07:28 -0500 To: John Hasty ,Terry Stetler From: Tony Drews References: <3714533.483509.1407424832827.JavaMail.root@vznit170136> <1407436372.37708.YahooMailNeo@web184901.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <2335943100275829865@unknownmsgid> {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Fw: Fwd: How Quick is Quick ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I found it here on You Tube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX-t7pXc_t4 Tony At 09:07 AM 8/9/2014, John Hasty wrote: >Is there a way to view this without joining Facebook? > >Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 8, 2014, at 6:22 PM, "Terry Stetler" wrote: > > > > It's amazing how fast the street cars in this video are, and even more >amazing > > is how relaxed the drivers appear to be > > > > as they click off speeds that took dedicated race cars to achieve not all >that > > long ago. > > > > > > > > I think I'll keep my TR3 street car though. > > > > > > > > I don't have to drive it at orbital escape velocity to have fun with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Terry Stetler > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 2:07 PM > > > > Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Fw: Fwd: How Quick is Quick ?? > > > > > > > > This is kind of fun to watch. > > > > *Never be beaten by equipment.* > > > > > > *Subject:* How Quick is Quick ?? > > *This is quite an interesting speed comparison !! Be sure to watch the > > quickest at the end... * > > *By the way for those of you that dislike the metric system here is a >**speed > > conversion chart below!* > > > > > > *100 KM/H = 62.14 MPH * > > *200 KM/H = 124.27 MPH* > > *300 KM/H = 186.41 MPH * > > *click here for video:* > > *https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=625747924150290* > > > >m/photo.php?v=625747924150290>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > *Winkster* > > _______________________________________________ > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tlizzard@msn.com > net/mailman/options/fot/tlizzard@msn.com> > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 9 19:59:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C705E2584605 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 19:59:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f176.google.com (mail-we0-f176.google.com [74.125.82.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98DC125800CF for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 19:59:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-we0-f176.google.com with SMTP id q58so7083856wes.21 for ; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 18:59:54 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=oTCwhEvdAvEr1ogOtgm+LtHgKOQuKedTMPFIzowi8pY=; b=0EBr2YB2jrLqdCrsHOr/jnUmSrrFKaJIa49ApwQ8mdhapeH1cdJOl1eS22u2zEd2EQ 5F4dcDn3AcAiPsr0QeU4fmdiAXdfCkQFn8POak3iMje/ddwWcuRhvuGSEyOM7w2cJOqG dYvCIlIqKqQ80QQa0CpP3SKxhnpDdclgFv8xj+QkZuE1TootG1ASxFurvH7aSKNqioQT Z/7dGuV/2wdKTfqPvuOUQHZbEeOCivG0PxEvCz3c7XYtS8CJ9/q0G+e/uLNciyrGyNZo SOqkfwJhQY8dC/eWjHCDUCXxivAmBVOlyGRNJe8DnJvRN3PZrPVmMtMqL1Y3vl/1tmRB Okgg== mc17mr14139906wic.7.1407635994140; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 18:59:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.149.238 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 18:59:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 20:59:54 -0500 From: McKearn McKearn To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Rota wheels. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi all. I am wondering if anyone has an opinion about Rota wheels? I am considering a set for my GT6 so as to resolve my tire rubbing issue. My current wheels have way too much negative offset and are causing a lot of interference. My intention is to get some 15x6 wheels with +25 mm offset and put on a set of 205-50-15 tires which are very close to 205-60-13 tires. It seams to make sense to me to use 15 inch rims as there is a multitude of tires available.. Thanks. Pat _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 9 21:29:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B516D2584619 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 21:29:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm21-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm21-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.62.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD85625800CF for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 21:26:39 -0600 (MDT) s=s2048; t=1407641232; bh=K6s14mmw4Sy2tt3OFJZk/aVjgpu4pci3Obv7E/0utxc=; b=sTFpc+lLghtMsaFKMF6A4p59CevEXPVfuo9bq7/8yzusaQpR+ZJ+QlCa/Usv6RdUJz8mPMNyoGv25TXyp8D0QktsPUy8SZhxVPPOZSqkOJc224UV+AugdFfCjq805H5TeN1gj5Zr8pUVf/PsenDv6FD/T3nX2Z5lhEZEVOej/3zUQUcm96o/oCzJMKMrxbiH806zpD1T1k/VKizwVGXTuCzWq1O77bMT8Th8DINxm8va2+y3Rw5RAsRpRV6JHfQi9nYUHP7B2P4WpkK8wSTJwOPXRftYmh9PRnAZqrjHwo7vgbvcn/CvjDVz3B+YiH21KXQKD8uzF00/im4K3Q459A== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=rogers.com; b=A4BBuVXCFZ1wMkEqpc+pfij5pSnxyHRCpPw2ZIGft/CZhI0tlznD11iMTFUfV9cwucEluqBaez0RpPIne+eshk+ZsSKPaHnUNrcFji1PrCNvIMgpQnN96cUCn/Zo7r1O6XcbnGCDp2gJ3zM9ZsqOvgIUdPwzeOsesvr3jbghi9bVVMTExeoxZKBnlbmGAF1jj79H5y+B5tlzEKKIb5RD0eoiWjC2/+KVxt8wooZoNdR1VycHdxIxFIejxzFQOz7u9mRlEdvBmCj1Qewjawk4F8OfiApW+QV4oPr6HE800dEouswLFnbcwHc+GbAan9TYU21oe+kYe4Qfof0yz1+pxg==; Received: from [216.39.60.169] by nm21.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2014 03:27:12 -0000 Received: from [67.195.22.113] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2014 03:27:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp115.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2014 03:27:12 -0000 s=s1024; t=1407641232; bh=K6s14mmw4Sy2tt3OFJZk/aVjgpu4pci3Obv7E/0utxc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=1yy9POkILS2vGbMXr5OxFMiViXb34d2e/4NrVGQ4sdXO6oWtx2o8TXSFUWHyFXLr0yPgdA/Hx8bso+oY+JRCvNBwd2tlThwG63Sh9bn9EG5D187868fC2xHaxL3iG3mxmW6Bs7mvWVHHNP7nBYiBkZ8vtvy8zCpVstbKwC+TaxI= poAIGlRfSW6WunyEqgvZF2QyklD6B0j4uB1tx5kLuCUlKtN7Wpcs8BPEjVQh q1U91RIuIndrGAGxK8WrhLInbMOlQvlmANTBuHE89xg94bc1TuR8Vdup.0Yc k.j0Kg8A2VV5oTegJNcyZM1cT1TBpgvhnz2P5khPNBRPnxQ.zU61dEw_0lMT oPkMXHoBxMIexJNSo1_Sz9PU19x5nTsaC4H4MI37EAsJ_VGwvWnX66pXWoTZ 8bTJ7kpVUskPLwX167s7E.o1qAenjR92B5TCeAFnrV6O.wZxiNza57K01cn0 zHw72IEil0UTLRETtHbdWFixhofym.zHwILCRSABKN3EFS9McwEBbP0SL87k g5McT2pCp8VirKECft5HAWH_Ml_56jAko2t8WqENDr9CykIptWJTOhqgtx8j navkmxJ1JUlz91KrzLe820BRifdUUzx2K6k6mLZhGodoxRxgeDaBlrSMsuyJ ohPVW9u03GB0QLdw9UR48m8.FcSEbRrMHxT76c3q_TMbc4ZxIY0J3wMJ.Eh2 HVX8esEmqtpW_nsxX7tD0S7pKV.XiEncvrhm_rtnBdc02FbU2v9g- From: "Paul MacDonald" To: "'McKearn McKearn'" , References: Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 23:27:13 -0400 Thread-Index: AQJd5VE1fLKyzk2WsUnK/IbhB1RiTpqsyx/A Content-Language: en-ca Subject: Re: [Fot] Rota wheels. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net They are popular with the TR7/8 crowd. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of McKearn McKearn Sent: August 9, 2014 10:00 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Rota wheels. Hi all. I am wondering if anyone has an opinion about Rota wheels? I am considering a set for my GT6 so as to resolve my tire rubbing issue. My current wheels have way too much negative offset and are causing a lot of interference. My intention is to get some 15x6 wheels with +25 mm offset and put on a set of 205-50-15 tires which are very close to 205-60-13 tires. It seams to make sense to me to use 15 inch rims as there is a multitude of tires available.. Thanks. Pat _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/macdonaldp@rogers.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 00:19:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F98825807D4 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 00:19:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f42.google.com (mail-wg0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D6D2580510 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 00:18:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id l18so7093843wgh.13 for ; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 23:19:25 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=XX+z8JbelM64D70DvgDK8qKc9dX4h+Zg0cvxGCoJ5bE=; b=1Dl17FRhQSx8xw2kbwZbL82hmPOQ9vTcPG1B4RUHjNEXANov7UqGBmH1qEhDmgo8n/ u1U5pfPjPPoqf7bmO8jtSegXl720gdr61f4nX1cP/YfbAuxoOlrUyWLdQlFxgvmY1q+f SZekjG9Uk0en4dqOLIKYD5mpycxAMrI0mBFi6d+NBlz2Y/IMXAfa7UkdL6sZQgxeVXYx iX6KNVMD9jS9rS+7bbzT2/ihS4/ZxPKHmf4YPy0y6D8z/u0tcg4rXyM0rDP6CGVy1ow+ +m2PQ70DfV22G5OinzwCaV4pRaaBcEGkERBn9Uwamgm/6rURKmcr606EeLQqf0Ub+3zA in2g== gt3mr10517148wib.1.1407651565547; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 23:19:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.173.108.76]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id dc3sm29742830wjc.27.2014.08.09.23.19.24 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 09 Aug 2014 23:19:25 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'McKearn McKearn'" , References: Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 08:19:26 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac+0Psotg+uncngTTkmtZ2/GoXqA/wAIzABw Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Rota wheels. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, these wheels never made it through the German TUV testing procedures to become road legal. As far I see on the German web page, they claim a lot and prove nothing. There are many more rims which have a very good reputation. I would go with proven products. Bastuck has made new wheels by himself, TUV tested with all papers needed to certificate strength and salt resistance. He made these wheels because he is a racer and sick of not perfect wheels he had to race on. http://www.bastuck.de/shop/index.php?&cat=20000&hg=20900&ug=20901&detail=1&l ang=en You can find them on the lower part of that page. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von McKearn McKearn Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. August 2014 04:00 An: fot@autox.team.net Betreff: [Fot] Rota wheels. Hi all. I am wondering if anyone has an opinion about Rota wheels? I am considering a set for my GT6 so as to resolve my tire rubbing issue. My current wheels have way too much negative offset and are causing a lot of interference. My intention is to get some 15x6 wheels with +25 mm offset and put on a set of 205-50-15 tires which are very close to 205-60-13 tires. It seams to make sense to me to use 15 inch rims as there is a multitude of tires available.. Thanks. Pat _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 01:54:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090B8258084C for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 01:54:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from DUB004-OMC2S19.hotmail.com (dub004-omc2s19.hotmail.com [157.55.1.158]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958A825807A8 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 01:54:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DUB119-W17 ([157.55.1.137]) by DUB004-OMC2S19.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Sun, 10 Aug 2014 00:54:53 -0700 From: John To: "fot@autox.team.net" Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 07:54:53 +0000 References: FILETIME=[5E8A9130:01CFB470] Subject: [Fot] Message from Joe Alexander Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe asked me to forward his message around again because he's not convinced everyone is receiving from his own email address. So here it is... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci-hDRBRpO0 FOT Ok, here it is. Advance order copies, prepaid. $15.50. That's about 1/2 Price. PayPal = n197tr4@cs.com Allow some time for shipping and processing. Nice companion piece to "California Air". Good time to order other titles from John Clancy. Meet John Clancy at Summit Point next May at the Kastner Cup....... Thanks...... Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 08:54:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE32258084C for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 08:54:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm44.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm44.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.120.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF322580558 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 08:54:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm44.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2014 14:55:19 -0000 Received: from [98.138.100.117] by nm44.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2014 14:52:23 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.163] by tm108.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2014 14:52:23 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.152] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2014 14:52:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1028.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2014 14:52:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 95291 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Aug 2014 14:52:22 -0000 s=s1024; t=1407682342; bh=OO/Y6vUrBkg4xmGw91kbTSerr04ftFYSLNhnWSLwS7s=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2rInUJoXXNYnpVFDqyhfJgU/D+q8QdKVqpzQGfKkvjDfslVWWDpXDCzyC2t9d19I82SEdYa1WF1MqBQ//SYO4hbynw6qkS9kRr8fxEru/PgLSob5RBaADChFgwI8+58byUszggqfYR96fSLr1Xfgp5gmdsx+guTm8lh0P4eQzkg= _8e_ncjaqYvoVgezGEhgacpGZdsHMrTQzWhBTSu7mb9kBGGPkEae2j5Jix.x zYRNi0GFO7SbBCLsfYzP5aFKHLV0fM5.0EIFl3rfEUTSr2aXHcIu0E_ueY.Y 02gQqJja_70U1LpFK_aCJFjSu7E_JPDeHvmSE_HcC5jlicl2O6Qnt7RBfbBL day0by.nZgteL2sjcGQJBHipt6cqp7qnoSLkqS6q4FiSTeXcIASkWxMQB0gW .RZyhXmMQabqbqYmcZMbHTabHSJGjyKNmAWSxnw3x4mNVaJ8KKlSpUwhh8hl dOda_abMd.RQZI2M7X32iKVumYMo4LLTAEWu_b8sj4ihIpAaz9IgGN.VZRV5 .phdF0tDc3l5ZDHF8nBn41uovCGHfIthVxxxVgsu_3ETOL976J17ToWqt3N. HwdfcKAfM34GrQ0IYlsNW7HcSy0solWZV.5cUNCXi9eJ0d_Y1B4H.WFysjZT I7Sf2j.Uvq8j_rIEahiehKeH1QqwHV.NU2kZxxptPwMGj6HsQJVf5A_E0.ye DPX0Yb4pKloI9_.VgF0tCn4Dek2LA Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web184704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 07:52:22 PDT R3JvdXAgYW5kIFRlcnJ5OgpJIGFtIHNpbmdsaW5nIFRlcnJ5IGluIGFkZGl0aW9uIHRvIHRoZSBlbnRpcmUgZ3JvdXAgYmVjYXVzZSBJIGtub3cgaGUgaGFzIGEgbG90IG9mIGV4cGVyaWVuY2UgaW4gdGhpcyBzZXQtdXAuCldlIGhhdmUgYWNxdWlyZWQgYSByZWFswqBUUjYgUEkgKENQIGNvbW1pc3Npb24gbnVtYmVyKSBhbmQgSSBhbSBoYXZpbmcgYSBwcm9ibGVtIHdpdGggdGhlIFBJwqBzeXN0ZW0uIEl0IGhhcyBhIEJvc2NoIHB1bXAgYW5kIGV2ZXJ5dGhpbmcgYXBwZWFycyB0byBiZSBwbHVtYmVkIGNvcnIBMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 07:52:22 -0700 From: EDWARD BARNARD To: Terry O'Beirne , FOT Subject: [Fot] TR6 PI question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Group and Terry: I am singling Terry in addition to the entire group because I know he has a lot of experience in this set-up. We have acquired a real TR6 PI (CP commission number) and I am having a problem with the PI system. It has a Bosch pump and everything appears to be plumbed correctly. I have timed the fuel distributor valve as the book says (multiple times) but, if I have the injectors out and I turn on the ignition #6 injector sprays all the time and the others never appear to spray. I have raw fuel coming from the tailpipe (which I think it would seeing that 6 sprays continuously), but the car will run to some degree, though it has no power. The valve appears to rotate as I see the holes open and close in sequence with the firing order. I am leaning towards the distributor valve being bad but could the car run even half-ass with only 6 spraying? Is there a balance tube of sorts like on a carb model that might allow some fuel to the other cylinders? Am I hopelessly doomed? (just kidding). Any guidance is appreciated since this is the first PI I have had. Thanks in advance - Ed _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 12:55:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E317258472B for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:55:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SNT004-OMC2S42.hotmail.com (snt004-omc2s42.hotmail.com [65.54.61.93]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C44D25846D8 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:55:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT148-W30 ([65.55.90.71]) by SNT004-OMC2S42.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Sun, 10 Aug 2014 11:55:45 -0700 From: Tony and Annie Garmey To: "fot@autox.team.net" Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 11:55:44 -0700 FILETIME=[B1170E40:01CFB4CC] Subject: [Fot] WTD : Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi all, Anyone know where I might locate a 13 inch, black leather steering wheel ? I,m also needing a TR4 billet Crank. Anyone have one sitting around ? Thank you Tony Garmey _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 12:59:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBBE3258474A for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:59:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097ED25846F0 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:59:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [68.205.19.176] ([68.205.19.176:1463] helo=[192.168.0.101]) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 4C/62-17901-241C7E35; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 19:00:18 +0000 Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:00:20 -0400 From: Bob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Ring and Pinion Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net All, Searching for a good used or new 3.45 ring and pinion. Prefer from a Triumph 2000 or 2500. thxx, Bob _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 13:44:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB59258471E for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:44:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from spamkiller.fastbytes.com (spamkiller.fastbytes.com [192.200.141.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2592580318 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:44:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 192.200.141.204 (AVG SMTP 9.0.932 [3955.1.1/7510]); Sun, 10 Aug 2014 14:45:20 -0500 Received: from mercury.fastbytes.com [192.200.141.198] by spamkiller.fastbytes.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.00) id ABCB7F00B2; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 14:45:15 -0500 Received: from TimDellVostro [192.200.136.236] by mercury.fastbytes.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-8.22) id ABEB0EA4; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 14:45:47 -0500 From: "Tim Murphy" To: "'EDWARD BARNARD'" , "'Terry O'Beirne'" , "'FOT'" References: <1407682342.91819.YahooMailNeo@web184704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 14:45:09 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac+0q1VEQchDCeT6QFmw/WZFgamcwAAJKGwg Content-Language: en-us Organization: FastBytesWireless Inc. Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 PI question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It sounds like badly fouled injector nozzles. When they are working correctly they have a very fine spray when a pulse of fuel comes out. It is very hard to see unless you pull one at a time and spray into a coffee can. Then you can see the spray better and the fuel collecting on the sides of the can. If I remember correctly the spray is a 60 degree cone. I at first sent my injectors to Kinsler Fuel Injection in Michigan. DO NOT send your injectors there! I pretty much got ripped off. My final solution was to purchase good rebuilt injectors from Precision Engineering and Injection (Malcolm Jones) in England. I have since had further nozzles get fouled and now I disassemble them and clean them in an ultrasonic cleaner myself. I have had success doing this. It's quicker and cheaper than sending them to England and back. The nozzles are quite simple, but precision, parts. I made some special tools to disassemble and reassemble them. Prior to doing this I went through the fuel system, fuel tank ( the TR5 does not have baffles as the TR6 does, I added a fuel pickup on the other side of the tank), return line, fuel pump and regulator. I did not have to touch the fuel distributor. I have a fuel pressure gauge (for Bosch fuel injection systems but worked good on the TR5 also) to check and set the pressure, which was pretty handy also. My car also had a Bosch fuel pump, but not the correct one for the Lucas PI. I replaced that and the regulator ultimately. There was quite a bit I learned as I got the TR5 to run right and keep it running right. It would be easier to discuss this with you by phone. I can lend you the fuel gauge and fittings if you like and could take a look at the injector nozzles if you'd like. I also have two spare injectors that work that you could try. Contact me and we can set up a time that will work for both of us to talk about it. I have also been in contact with a TR5 owner in Kansas who had problems and got his running correctly with help from a competent shop in his area. Lastly, I have made friends with a fella in England who has been a great help on the project. One thing about the Lucas PI, once they are running right they are quite robust and reliable. BUT, all components have to be working correctly. When I started on my car I didn't realize that the Lucas PI was used on the F1 cars of the era and the Can-Am cars. Tim -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of EDWARD BARNARD Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 9:52 AM To: Terry O'Beirne; FOT Subject: [Fot] TR6 PI question Group and Terry: I am singling Terry in addition to the entire group because I know he has a lot of experience in this set-up. We have acquired a real TR6 PI (CP commission number) and I am having a problem with the PI system. It has a Bosch pump and everything appears to be plumbed correctly. I have timed the fuel distributor valve as the book says (multiple times) but, if I have the injectors out and I turn on the ignition #6 injector sprays all the time and the others never appear to spray. I have raw fuel coming from the tailpipe (which I think it would seeing that 6 sprays continuously), but the car will run to some degree, though it has no power. The valve appears to rotate as I see the holes open and close in sequence with the firing order. I am leaning towards the distributor valve being bad but could the car run even half-ass with only 6 spraying? Is there a balance tube of sorts like on a carb model that might allow some fuel to the other cylinders? Am I hopelessly doomed? (just kidding). Any guidance is appreciated since this is the first PI I have had. Thanks in advance - Ed _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph@fastbytes.com [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 13:51:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259C0258475A for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:51:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from spamkiller.fastbytes.com (spamkiller.fastbytes.com [192.200.141.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 474302584716 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:51:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mercury.fastbytes.com [192.200.141.198] by spamkiller.fastbytes.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.00) id AD708100B2; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 14:52:16 -0500 Received: from TimDellVostro [192.200.136.236] by mercury.fastbytes.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-8.22) id AD910A90; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 14:52:49 -0500 From: "Tim Murphy" To: "'Tony and Annie Garmey'" , References: Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 14:52:11 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac+0zNxWRjk8dpXGTzKDDgJ9e7pk9gABspLg Content-Language: en-us Organization: FastBytesWireless Inc. Subject: Re: [Fot] WTD : Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net What are the sources for billet cranks for the TR4? After getting great responses on my question about prepping stock cranks, I might be better off "biting the bullet" and getting a billet crank. Thanks by the way for all the responses on the stock crank prep question. I've been having some problems with my internet connection plus some health problems so I sometimes am not too quick getting back to folks. My apologies. ( I live in a rural area and the only high speed internet is by a wireless connection or satellite. I have wireless and now trees are starting to get in the way so I'm having to do some antenna tower work!) Tim -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tony and Annie Garmey Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 1:56 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] WTD : Hi all, Anyone know where I might locate a 13 inch, black leather steering wheel ? I,m also needing a TR4 billet Crank. Anyone have one sitting around ? Thank you Tony Garmey _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph@fastbytes.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 15:21:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF752584711 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:21:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm4-vm1.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm4-vm1.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.2]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F4325800B1 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:21:26 -0600 (MDT) s=s2048; t=1407705719; bh=fSTXQb+MxQlArloKwhUXedSC0Pp58fhSrf5iTTAtevQ=; b=bb11wDHXcY9LAMofZLmkE94mwFw7oWLdW4nKsmylj346ypLjw75x6fSVmSDfi/8joU4Sl70x6F2ktey0MlAZ+Wu0+Y7nK7v1ecTK471rxJjhSP2dzuCqVt7Zs+oGbGtruKPyjW5AjGVB7hAt0l9RolyfPLfngrvd7uNw4NcDwFLPLtHEnWiMeoWIr5z1uyUm8WnrXWr99l4qQayuHy8zcXYR90U/VVOfR4zf5WdUzvdpaBfjGOLPZkSV7nXOg6RAZEJ8z83h2BIF6aL15bJfeR1cKZH3KnkLDxJHx6J9pZawNf3txYG1ARqDlz2FSnAA+udac4UP/kvvruuKIFBy6Q== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=rogers.com; b=OHnWynq+g2d+yYuii9ez/RhbwEL3/UFsVdU+YsvqMzy+kfPB9ykc+7h/zu4mhE2MRxgaYOa6sKmBQfrlDqAWbHK6TuGraD+Dbk7wnNrVpZiJ4yPpMmBBOTT9em89e8Ll27GhmQiaQvgrvYda32OpeL5ORAGpvQGw66ParrDkE0TO+SqpNX5m7jKEfm6X3gC1e9jmltM/uQC5gkei/MZZ2aUeSyA8EnyRN/OBvkjY3M0UUvft1BY1f5IRVqNld7sF91DaAAZvC4XiwkZKx25A282Mh1rVHw6Q2yBRqmhCFHQ9KwND3q4G5duIQ5QVbqB+Lq7fy4iGI7XNgmxD1wy3Sg==; Received: from [216.39.60.165] by nm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2014 21:21:59 -0000 Received: from [67.195.23.148] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2014 21:21:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp120.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2014 21:21:59 -0000 s=s1024; t=1407705719; bh=fSTXQb+MxQlArloKwhUXedSC0Pp58fhSrf5iTTAtevQ=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=ptvBcsR2iMJh49FQqcHN7+H41EU1iVtoD+HHdb3+hCPo7odQ5R2EOK/pgrc2ANVXhPRl/GNNuxvHBvfj5HGkbhghoDK38jWG9fuc+59tPlMuXQTzlvLyVU1v22wY2HtBAyOu+tGGWQH+6y0MjlF0dcchlLlwUqJcc3BT8m+oC7s= Au1PXS5CG7etMb5mdc41WIL_q0pKfMlXE609BBXkBEsMEgTOUabYeTHxm_WI QvpQVSgfNYJBToqn8fNGq2v5a2HynneWIKrFt9Ibb1bmbU3lcqRhpUz3rJ4q HZRX2EwIYt8titxJbO6hhbe.OL18RNymnRKvCVfV4_ndQijFGiFnrUrNcqqB RDnKvi6tj5XiSvPg3oRcv4RVgLin1dq0j9L9oKRI3qYqg4a4DBYO_MGRsKGj tUQ5DQGSdXkzJe.iqfxTn5dX_6b_5QG.wSTpOYs30PsYwCW0PbtK3gxRguqu iyVx6bnTXBgT0ADWeHAePuRuP074ZAmDfI2luayUt9qs.AKLs_BpQWmv32Cs uQuH9EuI4f.iWbj7kqZTkdWdgTFXtVfTDN0bwoJzypbrjb8yOpRuwdYbuLl. LaDjIn6PZ9Ulp4VcgIaJRdRvAVNJMkpso5Rvc_MLhomxmAcOOMG_tUEFfG_F M6k0z_2KgqmzBUlPlDsrTr8YoaanF88uPTEJ4TimHvrxPGYCk8egM6d1Ykej 9wM6VjrxrFKXLfdXKoM_YR8CnVYmH5ROLGVrBDKEl5LAd9Q073wU- From: "Paul MacDonald" To: "'Tony and Annie Garmey'" , References: Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 17:21:59 -0400 Thread-Index: AQJZafwBZhFju9iT+bZLbI/1aFMSBJq27h5A Content-Language: en-ca Subject: Re: [Fot] WTD : Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Standard on a TR8 -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tony and Annie Garmey Sent: August 10, 2014 2:56 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] WTD : Hi all, Anyone know where I might locate a 13 inch, black leather steering wheel ? I,m also needing a TR4 billet Crank. Anyone have one sitting around ? Thank you Tony Garmey _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/macdonaldp@rogers.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 16:27:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 848332584711 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 16:27:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f180.google.com (mail-pd0-f180.google.com [209.85.192.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F403F25803E6 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 16:26:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f180.google.com with SMTP id v10so7967831pde.39 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:27:11 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:importance:content-type :mime-version; bh=7IJgVNmQhImxiamCKnF5lrSyRlALGUjWyInh/PfzOkM=; b=Yz29LibbiJbJKzU44aUuBu9l85Z7jzQARNR6th/L2DJieSjqdoG9lvXz2MTRa3ej2q ZHuiLqa4rBQzER4h4NoxF5x3Ee2jwvj0HkuEVE6/iMvT+J1jOXTlwJT5pqHIEi6Topzs SVjFoLlpGViFOPyGRO6IadmgiQsrOHEKSgjqchQk9HAzIIAtbH8RG5h0knhm73RZaoQF yZWzVCEncJ6xYFd+nvWUOHjDPncMnr/HmwBtna9+T27lSUhrdDDXddzorphzBrU4pYX0 oBMTg6Wh9lVdU0PlUxZO5c9Sc5JWAhUyvn96LCG2Ju75w5Rfi4CpTZ9cewSafOOEUTB4 XzzA== Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:27:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [25.5.202.57] (66-87-66-57.pools.spcsdns.net. [66.87.66.57]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fn1sm9358020pbc.77.2014.08.10.15.27.05 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:27:10 -0700 (PDT) From: =?utf-8?B?dHJpb3NhbkBnbWFpbC5jb20=?= To: =?utf-8?B?VGltIE11cnBoeQ==?= , =?utf-8?B?ZWR3YXJkYmFybmFyZEBwcm9kaWd5Lm5ldA==?= , =?utf-8?B?ZW5xdWlyaWVzQHJvYWRhbmR0cmFjay5uZXQuYXU=?= , =?utf-8?B?Zm90QGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0?= Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 PI question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Great response. Malcoms fim is "prestige" not precision. How do you disassemble the nozzle? Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Phone. ------ Original message------ From: Tim Murphy Date: Sun, Aug 10, 2014 12:45 PM To: 'EDWARD BARNARD';'Terry O'Beirne';'FOT'; Subject:Re: [Fot] TR6 PI question It sounds like badly fouled injector nozzles. When they are working correctly they have a very fine spray when a pulse of fuel comes out. It is very hard to see unless you pull one at a time and spray into a coffee can. Then you can see the spray better and the fuel collecting on the sides of the can. If I remember correctly the spray is a 60 degree cone. I at first sent my injectors to Kinsler Fuel Injection in Michigan. DO NOT send your injectors there! I pretty much got ripped off. My final solution was to purchase good rebuilt injectors from Precision Engineering and Injection (Malcolm Jones) in England. I have since had further nozzles get fouled and now I disassemble them and clean them in an ultrasonic cleaner myself. I have had success doing this. It's quicker and cheaper than sending them to England and back. The nozzles are quite simple, but precision, parts. I made some special tools to disassemble and reassemble them. Prior to doing this I went through the fuel system, fuel tank ( the TR5 does not have baffles as the TR6 does, I added a fuel pickup on the other side of the tank), return line, fuel pump and regulator. I did not have to touch the fuel distributor. I have a fuel pressure gauge (for Bosch fuel injection systems but worked good on the TR5 also) to check and set the pressure, which was pretty handy also. My car also had a Bosch fuel pump, but not the correct one for the Lucas PI. I replaced that and the regulator ultimately. There was quite a bit I learned as I got the TR5 to run right and keep it running right. It would be easier to discuss this with you by phone. I can lend you the fuel gauge and fittings if you like and could take a look at the injector nozzles if you'd like. I also have two spare injectors that work that you could try. Contact me and we can set up a time that will work for both of us to talk about it. I have also been in contact with a TR5 owner in Kansas who had problems and got his running correctly with help from a competent shop in his area. Lastly, I have made friends with a fella in England who has been a great help on the project. One thing about the Lucas PI, once they are running right they are quite robust and reliable. BUT, all components have to be working correctly. When I started on my car I didn't realize that the Lucas PI was used on the F1 cars of the era and the Can-Am cars. Tim -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of EDWARD BARNARD Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 9:52 AM To: Terry O'Beirne; FOT Subject: [Fot] TR6 PI question Group and Terry: I am singling Terry in addition to the entire group because I know he has a lot of experience in this set-up. We have acquired a real TR6 PI (CP commission number) and I am having a problem with the PI system. It has a Bosch pump and everything appears to be plumbed correctly. I have timed the fuel distributor valve as the book says (multiple times) but, if I have the injectors out and I turn on the ignition #6 injector sprays all the time and the others never appear to spray. I have raw fuel coming from the tailpipe (which I think it would seeing that 6 sprays continuously), but the car will run to some degree, though it has no power. The valve appears to rotate as I see the holes open and close in sequence with the firing order. I am leaning towards the distributor valve being bad but could the car run even half-ass with only 6 spraying? Is there a balance tube of sorts like on a carb model that might allow some fuel to the other cylinders? Am I hopelessly doomed? (just kidding). Any guidance is appreciated since this is the first PI I have had. Thanks in advance - Ed _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph@fastbytes.com [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 17:23:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC9F258087E for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 17:23:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f178.google.com (mail-ob0-f178.google.com [209.85.214.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63FF12580458 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 17:23:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f178.google.com with SMTP id nu7so5516749obb.23 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 16:23:47 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=CxBbY0ONDUodzXxBdlAV4Fxbv30Y7NLIctb3VTQQIh8=; b=jLQRFtK9BNqReP9zy+va2+EMGlPG1UHG6xOPi58vbAQ0ZmIttbDwb5hVZ61vQCchQ7 7wT6UCQ1tBegQn/DV5MsoTFvzbmbtaAfABCxXXq+hRoexbk4COg0GsRAAEuNDmmci5KJ eb4pg237+94Q9mmT7/33ZDNVhY9UANcqV8cr4Q/KBYlgg9VPc1ZgAbyrArSGPkUei402 FO4iIjXzDzY1MTGBswzO8KiuEROcXx1UZ5kXkSvF46SD3DsCch3Uu6fLCQOP8yqqeO+g UzcG+B18JSkBVDDJw3XhuM+a5nf9O/YEMBI4rJ9XKHSmuKG5GjIzaVaVFNZ3rnEmm2Jm GDnw== Sun, 10 Aug 2014 16:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.107.3 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 16:23:27 -0700 (PDT) References: <000f4242.48cfb90014a76f80@gmail.com> From: "Enquiries Road & Track" Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:23:27 +1000 To: Tim Murphy Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 PI question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net quickly,,,,, several possible issues............ 1 injector has failed the 2 internal O rings in the metering unit have failed the shuttle has jammed at 1 end one or more check valves have failed if the injectors dont "pulse" nicely when pulled out, then the fault could be either an injector or the metering unit whislt running, blank off the injector port with a rag or cork, and gently pull open the pintle tit of the injector that is not spraying. dribbles indicate its getting fuel but it could still have a failed outlet valve or internal o ring. no fuel indicates metering unit internal fault sometimes, if its just dribbling a bit, you can solve this by gently pushing back the injector nozzle into the body, then tap the end fitting where the nylon hose screws on. this can get them spraying again once removed, if the injector 'rattles" then it has internally failed. most like the circlip has fallen off and the O ring has shrunk. both easily solved here are the simplistic 'repair instructions" for the metering unit take the complete metering unit off car with engine at TDC as per repair manual dont lose the plastic drive dog check it rotates freely by moving the tang where the plastic drive dog goes check then remove all injector pipes.. they are stamped 1-6 at injector end remove 4 outlet valves and 2 outlet banjo valves (18 & 19mm ring spanners). if the rubber 'bung seals' come out with them, they have shrunk and need replacing. if not, pick them out with a suitable bent-end picker. dont use a screwdriver or large tool, and dont scratch their inside faces remove the vacuum control unit from metering distributor and put it aside (dont disassemble) check the fuel diaphragm is not split. hold it up to the light and pull gently looking for splits tip the distribution unit on its 4-bolt end and check the shuttle pin falls out freely if the inner barrel falls out as an assembly, the internal O rings are stuffed test each outlet valve you take out by sucking on its inside 'tit". a perfect one will hold on your tongue for ages. if it wont seal at all by sucking, the flap valve inside it is stuffed and they need repair or replacement wash everything in white spirits/kero replace the 2 internal o rings with Viton versions (readily available) and a tiny smear of rubber grease refit the barrel without bung seals align the barrel then fit new/good bung seals with a tiny smear of rubber grease, pressing them home with a flat ended dowel or similar (care, no swarf gets in) refit 4 outlet vales with new O rings or dowty washers (depending on model--both readily available) refit the metering shuttle without any grease/oil and check it moves freely. refit the control assembly taking care not to damage the diaphragm test the control unit diaphragm is not leaking refit and drive away happy Terry _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 18:36:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA7A2584889 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 18:36:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f177.google.com (mail-ob0-f177.google.com [209.85.214.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF652584724 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 18:36:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f177.google.com with SMTP id wp18so5382690obc.36 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 17:36:54 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=/unf9byMWH8xxw7HHrorJJr6CwklN5Wke9Hu+uL8el0=; b=hbmN9wxmmBaoCrjEpm4HG7YyKuXpzdJEzaWhfWN22JL2C+ySOjYzFr7oM/tfVFPeiw PlGVChEHTFKLSqH4UaB0Xa/WuYXo6t+NLolFmYFXzvp/nMcE3C6pJb0LJknzStLvzW7z IKnOWG8YH/u46Vu1tMsUibOVuyIRODpBBrJpth4VLUMRYurtqzl0s44bvNnLcz4hB8t7 VlBlVPqzpRpXFQsRmD0VpRV6OnjU5GfmChbvuFIgrvPS07rCXHe3CwxewPVaZxLN3dXJ bgRD0QxVy74yGWSYK1B6JEItQR5zEBtDTMhEG2FMvyn5Go4CEeo8D3/rzzSS6NG7+Cfr wQ2w== k1mr46980689oeu.61.1407717414117; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 17:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.107.3 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 17:36:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Enquiries Road & Track" Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:36:32 +1000 To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] re Rota wheels Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net there are tens of thousands of these sold here in australia. very popular for jap imports . i have a set on my Lotus which was extensively tracked by prior owner. they make the very odd sized wheels needed for modern Lotus generally a bit heavier than very expensive forged wheels, but otherwise no better or worse than many others Terry _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 19:11:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40FBD25848A5 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 19:11:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78CF32580889 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 19:11:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.23.238]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0NA400JRXBBAY420@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 20:11:35 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "McKearn McKearn" , References: Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 21:11:36 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] Rota wheels. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi all, I have a set with my rain tires on. They seem very true. At the time, a couple years ao, they were $500 a set shipped. Made in the Philippines. They work ok for me. I do have to use a 1/4 inch spacer with them though. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "McKearn McKearn" To: Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 9:59 PM Subject: [Fot] Rota wheels. > Hi all. > I am wondering if anyone has an opinion about Rota wheels? I am > considering a set for my GT6 so as to resolve my tire rubbing issue. My > current wheels have way too much negative offset and are causing a lot of > interference. > My intention is to get some 15x6 wheels with +25 mm offset and put on a > set of 205-50-15 tires which are very close to 205-60-13 tires. It seams > to > make sense to me to use 15 inch rims as there is a multitude of tires > available.. > Thanks. Pat > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 20:51:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 099962584861 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 20:51:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from sitemail.siteprotect.com (sitemail.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.155]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF96D2580257 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 20:51:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by app04.sm.onr.chicago.hostway (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D135400156; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 21:51:47 -0500 (CDT) To: "fot@autox.team.net" , "Tony and Annie Garmey" Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 21:51:47 -0500 From: Charly Subject: Re: [Fot] WTD : Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }Tony, I might have a wheel or two. One is from a Mini the other is an Astrali with out a boss. Charly On Sun 10/08/14 11:55 AM , Tony and Annie Garmey horizonracing@msn.com sent: Hi all, Anyone know where I might locate a 13 inch, black leather steering wheel ? I,m also needing a TR4 billet Crank. Anyone have one sitting around ? Thank you Tony Garmey _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com [2] Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html [3] Archive: http://www.team.net/archive [4] Forums: http://www.team.net/forums [5] Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ [6] Links: ------ [2] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fot-racing .com [3] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Fdonate.html [4] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Farchive [5] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Fforums [6] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net %2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Ffot%2Fcharly%40mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 21:06:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC5A25848AC for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 21:06:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from sitemail.siteprotect.com (sitemail.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.155]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 529B225808C2 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 21:06:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by app03.sm.onr.chicago.hostway (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697AC4B0155; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 22:07:24 -0500 (CDT) To: "'EDWARD BARNARD'" , "'Terry O'Beirne'" , "'FOT'" , "Tim Murphy" Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 22:07:24 -0500 From: Charly Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 PI question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; } I agree with all of this and have been running PI on my race car for about 7 or 8 years. DO NOT SEND TO KINSLER, $2000.00 and still didn't work right. I have blown very carefully with air through my injectors to clean them, the book says don't. I've taken them apart and it's fairly easy. I also have a modification to adjust wide open fuel. I used a Lucas pump for over 5 years and recently switched to the Bosch pump, but also had to changed the pressure relief valve because it was vibrating. Malcolm Jones is a wonderful contact and can rebuild your metering unit to run on unleaded gas. I add Marvel Mystery Oil to my gas to lubricate the system. Tim, where do you have your gauge mounted? I have one in the trunk, but would like to be able to read the pressure at the metering unit. What kind of gauge is it? Electric? Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 On Sun 10/08/14 12:45 PM , "Tim Murphy" timmurph@fastbytes.com sent: It sounds like badly fouled injector nozzles. When they are working correctly they have a very fine spray when a pulse of fuel comes out. It is very hard to see unless you pull one at a time and spray into a coffee can. Then you can see the spray better and the fuel collecting on the sides of the can. If I remember correctly the spray is a 60 degree cone. I at first sent my injectors to Kinsler Fuel Injection in Michigan. DO NOT send your injectors there! I pretty much got ripped off. My final solution was to purchase good rebuilt injectors from Precision Engineering and Injection (Malcolm Jones) in England. I have since had further nozzles get fouled and now I disassemble them and clean them in an ultrasonic cleaner myself. I have had success doing this. It's quicker and cheaper than sending them to England and back. The nozzles are quite simple, but precision, parts. I made some special tools to disassemble and reassemble them. Prior to doing this I went through the fuel system, fuel tank ( the TR5 does not have baffles as the TR6 does, I added a fuel pickup on the other side of the tank), return line, fuel pump and regulator. I did not have to touch the fuel distributor. I have a fuel pressure gauge (for Bosch fuel injection systems but worked good on the TR5 also) to check and set the pressure, which was pretty handy also. My car also had a Bosch fuel pump, but not the correct one for the Lucas PI. I replaced that and the regulator ultimately. There was quite a bit I learned as I got the TR5 to run right and keep it running right. It would be easier to discuss this with you by phone. I can lend you the fuel gauge and fittings if you like and could take a look at the injector nozzles if you'd like. I also have two spare injectors that work that you could try. Contact me and we can set up a time that will work for both of us to talk about it. I have also been in contact with a TR5 owner in Kansas who had problems and got his running correctly with help from a competent shop in his area. Lastly, I have made friends with a fella in England who has been a great help on the project. One thing about the Lucas PI, once they are running right they are quite robust and reliable. BUT, all components have to be working correctly. When I started on my car I didn't realize that the Lucas PI was used on the F1 cars of the era and the Can-Am cars. Tim -----Original Message----- From: Fot [] On Behalf Of EDWARD BARNARD Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 9:52 AM To: Terry O'Beirne; FOT Subject: [Fot] TR6 PI question Group and Terry: I am singling Terry in addition to the entire group because I know he has a lot of experience in this set-up. We have acquired a real TR6 PI (CP commission number) and I am having a problem with the PI system. It has a Bosch pump and everything appears to be plumbed correctly. I have timed the fuel distributor valve as the book says (multiple times) but, if I have the injectors out and I turn on the ignition #6 injector sprays all the time and the others never appear to spray. I have raw fuel coming from the tailpipe (which I think it would seeing that 6 sprays continuously), but the car will run to some degree, though it has no power. The valve appears to rotate as I see the holes open and close in sequence with the firing order. I am leaning towards the distributor valve being bad but could the car run even half-ass with only 6 spraying? Is there a balance tube of sorts like on a carb model that might allow some fuel to the other cylinders? Am I hopelessly doomed? (just kidding). Any guidance is appreciated since this is the first PI I have had. Thanks in advance - Ed _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com [3] Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html [4] Archive: http://www.team.net/archive [5] Forums: http://www.team.net/forums [6] Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ [7] [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com [10] Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html [11] Archive: http://www.team.net/archive [12] Forums: http://www.team.net/forums [13] Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ [14] Links: ------ [3] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fot-racing .com [4] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Fdonate.html [5] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Farchive [6] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Fforums [7] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net %2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Ffot%2Ftimmurph%40fastbytes.com [10] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fot-racing .com [11] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Fdonate.html [12] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Farchive [13] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Fforums [14] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net %2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Ffot%2Fcharly%40mitchelplumbing.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of PI 2005.jpg] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 21:13:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BAA25848A1 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 21:13:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from sitemail.siteprotect.com (sitemail.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.155]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D67F2584867 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 21:13:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by app03.sm.onr.chicago.hostway (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1834B0065; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 22:14:09 -0500 (CDT) To: "Tim Murphy" , "Enquiries Road & Track" Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 22:14:09 -0500 From: Charly Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 PI question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; } All seems easy to me, but here are some manuals you might want to look at. http://www.lucasinjection.com/MANUALS.htm [1] Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 On Sun 10/08/14 4:23 PM , "Enquiries Road & Track" enquiries@roadandtrack.net.au sent: quickly,,,,, several possible issues............ 1 injector has failed the 2 internal O rings in the metering unit have failed the shuttle has jammed at 1 end one or more check valves have failed if the injectors dont "pulse" nicely when pulled out, then the fault could be either an injector or the metering unit whislt running, blank off the injector port with a rag or cork, and gently pull open the pintle tit of the injector that is not spraying. dribbles indicate its getting fuel but it could still have a failed outlet valve or internal o ring. no fuel indicates metering unit internal fault sometimes, if its just dribbling a bit, you can solve this by gently pushing back the injector nozzle into the body, then tap the end fitting where the nylon hose screws on. this can get them spraying again once removed, if the injector 'rattles" then it has internally failed. most like the circlip has fallen off and the O ring has shrunk. both easily solved here are the simplistic 'repair instructions" for the metering unit take the complete metering unit off car with engine at TDC as per repair manual dont lose the plastic drive dog check it rotates freely by moving the tang where the plastic drive dog goes check then remove all injector pipes.. they are stamped 1-6 at injector end remove 4 outlet valves and 2 outlet banjo valves (18 & 19mm ring spanners). if the rubber 'bung seals' come out with them, they have shrunk and need replacing. if not, pick them out with a suitable bent-end picker. dont use a screwdriver or large tool, and dont scratch their inside faces remove the vacuum control unit from metering distributor and put it aside (dont disassemble) check the fuel diaphragm is not split. hold it up to the light and pull gently looking for splits tip the distribution unit on its 4-bolt end and check the shuttle pin falls out freely if the inner barrel falls out as an assembly, the internal O rings are stuffed test each outlet valve you take out by sucking on its inside 'tit". a perfect one will hold on your tongue for ages. if it wont seal at all by sucking, the flap valve inside it is stuffed and they need repair or replacement wash everything in white spirits/kero replace the 2 internal o rings with Viton versions (readily available) and a tiny smear of rubber grease refit the barrel without bung seals align the barrel then fit new/good bung seals with a tiny smear of rubber grease, pressing them home with a flat ended dowel or similar (care, no swarf gets in) refit 4 outlet vales with new O rings or dowty washers (depending on model--both readily available) refit the metering shuttle without any grease/oil and check it moves freely. refit the control assembly taking care not to damage the diaphragm test the control unit diaphragm is not leaking refit and drive away happy Terry _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com [3] Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html [4] Archive: http://www.team.net/archive [5] Forums: http://www.team.net/forums [6] Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ [7] Links: ------ [1] http://www.lucasinjection.com/MANUALS.htm [3] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fot-racing .com [4] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Fdonate.html [5] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Farchive [6] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2 Fforums [7] http://webmail.qwestoffice.net/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net %2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Ffot%2Fcharly%40mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 09:00:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC9B2584A58 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:00:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d06.mx.aol.com (omr-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E4FC25807C3 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:00:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mbe02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mbe02.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.174]) by omr-d06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 5093C7025BAA6; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 11:00:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.0.10.14] (unknown [38.108.56.239]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mbe02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 3DFA3380000A8; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 11:00:34 -0400 (EDT) From: John Frymark Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:00:33 -0500 To: "horizonracing@msn.com" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1407769235; bh=svRuGCbONgOZJNCUJ+YEGnk58xWp3X8m6jKlvKR/v2E=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=bN5/KMSZsJJVlelEqTufpAD9hfJ7YIDnKA8hwhImY01kLP9OYxxm1phUVG3wp5pvc uSwUrSirDqnlgm5tfcL7T3w0mYCbGNunLObHzfSZlaDRs6ZKwWB2BHjuEITOChHvXv cmzhRotKu3bLf5EGU0zt2shstXIEejUq1lyPvKVg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afeae53e8da922d94 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] TR crank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tony, Marine Crankshaft in Santa Anna, CA has a "5 main" crankshaft patterned. He's made at least 6 so far. They are a thing of beauty and 4 lbs lighter than stock. I'll attach a photo but it will be stripped on the FoT cc. A little grinding on the webs in the block is required for clearance. Call David Eden at 714-549-2388 if interested. Marinecrankshaftinc.com John Frymark [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image.jpeg] Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 09:16:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A9FC2584B7B for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:16:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p02c12o141.mxlogic.net (p02c12o141.mxlogic.net [208.65.145.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8EB25808D9 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:15:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO ATLPEXCAS03.xc.lan) by p02c12o141.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.0.0-3) with ESMTP id e3ed8e35.2ac97933a940.4683.00-534.13247.p02c12o141.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:16:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO ATLPEXCAS03.xc.lan) by p02c12o141.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.0.0-3) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id 52ed8e35.0.4379.00-313.12321.p02c12o141.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:15:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::c824:a29e:45a5:b81c]) by ATLPEXCAS03.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0181.006; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 11:15:48 -0400 From: John Hasty To: John Frymark , "horizonracing@msn.com" Thread-Topic: [Fot] TR crank Thread-Index: AQHPtXUNS0Pj6V4M1Eu2P5K3eFWHWJvLgw0g Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 15:15:48 +0000 References: <8CE33E17-EB7F-4819-BD4B-7557EF37E139@aol.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [192.168.123.236] a=VR8QHrWKYhK80xkEBGCjUg==] a=DXt] a=8nJEP1O] a=YlVTAMxIAAAA] a=Jc] a=] a=z8ze] a=Z6qnhhop] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR crank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net But he would not alter the width of the rod journals to accommodate "modern" rods; so we chose Moldex who does the same 5 main type crank with any specification you want for mains and rods. Different lubrication patterns, nitride and balanced. John H. Hasty | MULLEN HOLLAND & COOPER P.A. Attorney at Law 301 South York Street (zip: 28052) P.O. Box 488 Gastonia, NC 28053-0488 Telephone: 704.864.6751 | Facsimile: 704.861.8394 JHasty@mhc-law.com | www.mhc-law.com -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Frymark Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 11:01 AM To: horizonracing@msn.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] TR crank Tony, Marine Crankshaft in Santa Anna, CA has a "5 main" crankshaft patterned. He's made at least 6 so far. They are a thing of beauty and 4 lbs lighter than stock. I'll attach a photo but it will be stripped on the FoT cc. A little grinding on the webs in the block is required for clearance. Call David Eden at 714-549-2388 if interested. Marinecrankshaftinc.com John Frymark [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image.jpeg] Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 09:19:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E692A2584BC8 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:19:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d07.mx.aol.com (omr-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24FCF2580808 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:19:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mbe02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mbe02.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.174]) by omr-d07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6E6A3702CF856; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 11:20:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.0.10.14] (unknown [38.108.56.239]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mbe02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id CE4BC38000088; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 11:20:08 -0400 (EDT) References: <8CE33E17-EB7F-4819-BD4B-7557EF37E139@aol.com> From: John Frymark Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:20:08 -0500 To: John Hasty x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1407770409; bh=TT/3LMydGuWwDpyuDJXmLbEiIzzbqYlcLF9/rvtQBfE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=AOBhxptIMGansZT/4H/TA6kvllPAd4soejL0WWK7nZXRS37+qxUfUXEaK0C0u+Nzd tPzpWWAgy6UvzcH3zLxxYMZVJan8ftz7DTWa3fKtc4RKQD8aOIIRr3cztZ6RLx22sS UqtVyv4SHXOWeVpw161UR/MRegC0I4w6L+dZLRJk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afeae53e8df286b53 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR crank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Double check with David. He said he was able to modify the pattern for Chevy or Honda rods when we worked to develop this. John Frymark Sent from my iPad > On Aug 11, 2014, at 10:15 AM, John Hasty wrote: > > But he would not alter the width of the rod journals to accommodate "modern" rods; so we chose Moldex who does the same 5 main type crank with any specification you want for mains and rods. Different lubrication patterns, nitride and balanced. > > John H. Hasty | MULLEN HOLLAND & COOPER P.A. > Attorney at Law > 301 South York Street (zip: 28052) > P.O. Box 488 > Gastonia, NC 28053-0488 > Telephone: 704.864.6751 | Facsimile: 704.861.8394 > JHasty@mhc-law.com | www.mhc-law.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Frymark > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 11:01 AM > To: horizonracing@msn.com > Cc: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] TR crank > > Tony, > > Marine Crankshaft in Santa Anna, CA has a "5 main" crankshaft patterned. He's made at least 6 so far. They are a thing of beauty and 4 lbs lighter than stock. I'll attach a photo but it will be stripped on the FoT cc. A little grinding on the webs in the block is required for clearance. > > Call David Eden at 714-549-2388 if interested. > Marinecrankshaftinc.com > > John Frymark > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image.jpeg] Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 09:39:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 289142584C31 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:39:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA71925808ED for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:39:36 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge03 smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [166.176.123.164] ([166.176.123.164:31060] helo=[10.51.4.116]) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 30/CF-18475-8D3E8E35; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 15:40:10 +0000 References: <8CE33E17-EB7F-4819-BD4B-7557EF37E139@aol.com> <9226CFC1-70B4-42B4-AA1F-498CAE70E6A8@aol.com> From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:39:49 -0500 To: "fot@autox.team.net" Cc: John Frymark Subject: Re: [Fot] TR crank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I can answer that. He did 2 five main cranks for me with a modified Chevy rod journal. He is very receptive to design changes. Just to pass along a story about his product. We use a machine shop in Austin that has been preparing race motors for many years. The owner told me these cranks were works of art. Anecdotal evidence of quality, but I respect his opinion. Thanks go to John Frymark for the upfront design work with Marine on this one. Greg > On Aug 11, 2014, at 10:20 AM, John Frymark wrote: > > Double check with David. He said he was able to modify the pattern for Chevy > or Honda rods when we worked to develop this. > > John Frymark > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Aug 11, 2014, at 10:15 AM, John Hasty wrote: >> >> But he would not alter the width of the rod journals to accommodate "modern" > rods; so we chose Moldex who does the same 5 main type crank with any > specification you want for mains and rods. Different lubrication patterns, > nitride and balanced. >> >> John H. Hasty | MULLEN HOLLAND & COOPER P.A. >> Attorney at Law >> 301 South York Street (zip: 28052) >> P.O. Box 488 >> Gastonia, NC 28053-0488 >> Telephone: 704.864.6751 | Facsimile: 704.861.8394 >> JHasty@mhc-law.com | www.mhc-law.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Frymark >> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 11:01 AM >> To: horizonracing@msn.com >> Cc: fot@autox.team.net >> Subject: [Fot] TR crank >> >> Tony, >> >> Marine Crankshaft in Santa Anna, CA has a "5 main" crankshaft patterned. > He's made at least 6 so far. They are a thing of beauty and 4 lbs lighter than > stock. I'll attach a photo but it will be stripped on the FoT cc. A little > grinding on the webs in the block is required for clearance. >> >> Call David Eden at 714-549-2388 if interested. >> Marinecrankshaftinc.com >> >> John Frymark >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > image.jpeg] Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 15:32:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D40A25809E3 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 15:32:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f172.google.com (mail-pd0-f172.google.com [209.85.192.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF6125803BC for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 15:32:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f172.google.com with SMTP id y13so5517038pdi.31 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:33:19 -0700 (PDT) h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:importance:content-type :mime-version; bh=5rO0Nk94BpjAp2tGynK6ciRVmDe6hEdlW6myapt1zzU=; b=0oHCz/GpZNyCohNyrNdyOmsvIfXcbX4haEys4AR/gOxWhtrDwklpUVmLDs0emy674L CepJ8KFEnnh4z4s9Tq71ypZQBBc9CX4CRuHF6+F67I+pS320+euzL+SNr5FE9xkAtAuJ LY8gsPcTnYqNGBR4dyYiNXs2otltMZ5mci5Ms1blNxQBm5CzAlEzOGkyW3f+W1zA4aTS ILcGRKrF88XD1+zcAoCNE/yTd9usNuWWeUFsQiaAPG6bDL3tbikMKIOeFm5vywpwgAiv Vgb3CizRQ51lOcz5NPAmrdkIw19HV9TI3ry6pD0tHARwqdBilEprwi9YrZF8vAG3qg6t mgkg== gy11mr393155pbd.28.1407792798851; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.15] (174-21-2-180.tukw.qwest.net. [174.21.2.180]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fz10sm19012695pdb.48.2014.08.11.14.33.17 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:33:18 -0700 (PDT) From: =?utf-8?B?dHJpb3NhbkBnbWFpbC5jb20=?= To: =?utf-8?B?YWJsYWtlMkBhdXN0aW4ucnIuY29t?= , =?utf-8?B?Zm90QGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0?= Cc: =?utf-8?B?Sm9obiBGcnltYXJr?= Subject: Re: [Fot] TR crank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Has he ever done a 6 cylinder? Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Phone. ------ Original message------ From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Mon, Aug 11, 2014 8:40 AM To: fot@autox.team.net; Cc: John Frymark; Subject:Re: [Fot] TR crank I can answer that. He did 2 five main cranks for me with a modified Chevy rod journal. He is very receptive to design changes. Just to pass along a story about his product. We use a machine shop in Austin that has been preparing race motors for many years. The owner told me these cranks were works of art. Anecdotal evidence of quality, but I respect his opinion. Thanks go to John Frymark for the upfront design work with Marine on this one. Greg > On Aug 11, 2014, at 10:20 AM, John Frymark wrote: > > Double check with David. He said he was able to modify the pattern for Chevy > or Honda rods when we worked to develop this. > > John Frymark > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Aug 11, 2014, at 10:15 AM, John Hasty wrote: >> >> But he would not alter the width of the rod journals to accommodate "modern" > rods; so we chose Moldex who does the same 5 main type crank with any > specification you want for mains and rods. Different lubrication patterns, > nitride and balanced. >> >> John H. Hasty | MULLEN HOLLAND & COOPER P.A. >> Attorney at Law >> 301 South York Street (zip: 28052) >> P.O. Box 488 >> Gastonia, NC 28053-0488 >> Telephone: 704.864.6751 | Facsimile: 704.861.8394 >> JHasty@mhc-law.com | www.mhc-law.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Frymark >> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 11:01 AM >> To: horizonracing@msn.com >> Cc: fot@autox.team.net >> Subject: [Fot] TR crank >> >> Tony, >> >> Marine Crankshaft in Santa Anna, CA has a "5 main" crankshaft patterned. > He's made at least 6 so far. They are a thing of beauty and 4 lbs lighter than > stock. I'll attach a photo but it will be stripped on the FoT cc. A little > grinding on the webs in the block is required for clearance. >> >> Call David Eden at 714-549-2388 if interested. >> Marinecrankshaftinc.com >> >> John Frymark >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > image.jpeg] Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 20:09:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EADC62584CEB for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 20:09:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f169.google.com (mail-wi0-f169.google.com [209.85.212.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 712992580BC5 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 20:09:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f169.google.com with SMTP id n3so6340404wiv.2 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 19:10:09 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Mfu9gIZ5SOPnO7QHr8SbnbHxk13cum7gDVz/CBbxc1Q=; b=AyUubmTz0KEh+OMOEFXYPQv9m2lt0Ybx1VwbDOtLengQhDARknOlHU8ejLqp3KBzTu uSlPb/kElhTzggOn9Y3dPO+xergRnCwLG0J5OKzzDlEvpTSu9PB2BmRkYBoItf6Fnwed fEFKvdXjFmvAZzhAkt4x3tlgmUrkUge5uX5YPAdRM3zcFr5sc/fudVndm6zbrmovjwG5 7FgD7dlIbuIdW5HpJsHbEINNVV1R04YVGLDEWWNLioXKTDWi/qxQJOS6WOO+UFe3L/cJ akzOwfh1tMRCw2B/i+zTnqLdeRZ7eVxJFd3pmp36s53/zQbsrSYz1dtBh033OL1nG8ph baOg== e19mr1637418wjx.119.1407809409257; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 19:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.149.238 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 19:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 21:10:09 -0500 From: McKearn McKearn To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Rota wheels Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi All. Thanks to those who responded to my wheel question. It definitely helped me make up my mind. . Pat _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 12 07:45:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41DD325807C1 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 07:45:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (isis.mit.edu [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E554B2580791 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 07:44:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s7CDjR9V002167 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:45:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:45:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Short Video Clip from last SUN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I participated in a new SCCA event called the "Club Racing Experience", aka CRE. They let folks that don't have current racing creds race wheel-to-wheel under somewhat controlled circumstances. Lots of fun. http://youtu.be/J-PCZQNQ6TQ The track is the Road course at NHMS in Loudon, NH. I had a blast. Now to get my time-trial license converted to a novice road race license. :-) rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 12 08:54:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F5B4258449D for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:54:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BAY004-OMC4S17.hotmail.com (bay004-omc4s17.hotmail.com [65.54.190.219]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66F80258058A for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:54:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY179-W47 ([65.54.190.199]) by BAY004-OMC4S17.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 07:55:02 -0700 From: michael To: "Robert M. Lang" , "fot@autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:55:01 -0400 References: FILETIME=[65565250:01CFB63D] Subject: Re: [Fot] Short Video Clip from last SUN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Remembering racing at the old Bryar Motorsports Park many years ago, looking at Bob's video, my memory tells me that they are running the old road course in the opposite direction. The downhill section that re-joins the oval used to be an uphill in the 1960s-70s. Wonder why it was changed. Mike Cook > Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:45:27 -0400 > From: lang@isis.mit.edu > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Short Video Clip from last SUN > > Hi, > > I participated in a new SCCA event called the "Club Racing Experience", > aka CRE. They let folks that don't have current racing creds race > wheel-to-wheel under somewhat controlled circumstances. > > Lots of fun. > > http://youtu.be/J-PCZQNQ6TQ > > The track is the Road course at NHMS in Loudon, NH. > > I had a blast. > > Now to get my time-trial license converted to a novice road race license. > > :-) > > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mlcooknj@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 12 09:29:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B8D12584642 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:29:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm11-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm11-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.159]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4879D25808AD for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:29:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.100.102] by nm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 2014 15:29:36 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.235] by tm101.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 2014 15:29:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1035.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 2014 15:29:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 94643 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Aug 2014 15:29:36 -0000 s=s1024; t=1407857376; bh=0fUg4Jl3tBy0qQZZb8eDJWBqcht9N9jAtDAyF8rSjEs=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3PyaRVSxzTmbPg9lBGU9u2sDYdFKMyja6TqofKX01pFReKjWq3FSZXgO4q8bf8wAokjeVplC3btHvDyKJOVD+2SG9LT3RrJ56GCsg0OuDNI/cGU7yLsB7ZGfkFmzAdC8z6seQvT8usKZiVVKDOUv/25oAuEJ1br80WONzxFqXHk= _C1PA4Vcnuh.KXywLN0kEDUp5MB2QtUis.lW1uDjI68YA.gbYZa5aoGGxxYR eJgY8Tb6eD7b3RClTHk7dSdWypQXYiK9j1TIEsgQo4URpQXFzOAS_wuf8243 5G.sXQbGE5q3m3F6PHdqn2_LJcuYG0hS3n_cFLkL6f7Xz1jydpm96zL6YqX1 f.aqIa1W4fktUSkboOmM7.QjTOznVr4rPKNkGUD_j4We4E6jJ9yZ2gIoLmP2 a9vpyh1x90BoX4HEqA1hpaPBw_ULwEaC9lsg_GdhgCiW2RgXQyBWpV7PyWdx 5zXhkomwhnhIwxUcsdSm2jjcj3UnQ6pIxzwNaKaUVU.xwcl9vhlY9blIO8Yl ceSVdYJjKMoBCTmfce8ZmPR0nMUn1N_ZM6Q_rKg4JSwxrAWT9Eg6fMFJfuZ. ii_2nu8Fh3NeLnkO88BsWoqshSz2VM2ju_hA3fKVRuB_8Tf.d1nqQYNEPE2I lmiOg7CJkjW.gyuB.UoHk567WIIjTTLtXNEsEWOeE87z79fUbuExnqm9d6X3 AahAkdpvOvB.aolWUcM5aNQgF1GNy4wbF5BMbdnLehLdIFMf_5p9YLBX0Zzt o795gsynf_N9KiEGMxJ0syIa0pusVLbdP19kMelF.brcoEjlsoxpWIpZr3Q- - Received: from [50.241.100.45] by web121403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:29:36 PDT TXkgdW5kZXJzdGFuZGluZyBmb3IgdGhlIGNoYW5nZSBpbiBjb3Vyc2UgZGlyZWN0aW9uIHdhcyBhIGxpdHRsZSBmb3Igc2FmZXR5IGluIHRoZSBvdXRzaWRlIHdhbGwgb2YgdGhlIG92YWwgYW5kIHRvIG1haW50YWluIGNvbnNpc3RlbmN5IHdpdGggb3ZhbCBkaXJlY3Rpb24uIEFzIHRoZSBnb2FsIGZvciB0aGUgb3ZhbCBhdCB0aGUgdGltZSB3YXMgZG8gYmVjb21lIHRoZSBwcmltYXJ5IHNvdXJjZSBvZiByYWNpbmcgZm9yIHRoZSB0cmFjay4gVGhhdCBwYXJ0IHR1cm5lZCBvdXQgdG8gYmUgdHJ1ZS4KQnJpYW4BMAEBAQE- References: Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:29:36 -0700 From: Brian Dennis To: michael , "Robert M. Lang" , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Short Video Clip from last SUN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net My understanding for the change in course direction was a little for safety in the outside wall of the oval and to maintain consistency with oval direction. As the goal for the oval at the time was do become the primary source of racing for the track. That part turned out to be true. Brian >________________________________ > From: michael >To: Robert M. Lang ; "fot@autox.team.net" >Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 10:55 AM >Subject: Re: [Fot] Short Video Clip from last SUN > > >Remembering racing at the old Bryar Motorsports Park many years ago, >looking at Bob's video, my memory tells me that they are running the old road >course in the opposite direction. The downhill section that re-joins the oval >used to be an uphill in the 1960s-70s. Wonder why it was changed. > >Mike Cook > >> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:45:27 -0400 >> From: lang@isis.mit.edu >> To: fot@autox.team.net >> Subject: [Fot] Short Video Clip from last SUN >> >> Hi, >> >> I participated in a new SCCA event called the "Club Racing Experience", >> aka CRE. They let folks that don't have current racing creds race >> wheel-to-wheel under somewhat controlled circumstances. >> >> Lots of fun. >> >> http://youtu.be/J-PCZQNQ6TQ >> >> The track is the Road course at NHMS in Loudon, NH. >> >> I had a blast. >> >> Now to get my time-trial license converted to a novice road race license. >> >> :-) >> >> rml >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent >> Former NER Solo Chair | >> Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mlcooknj@msn.com > > > > >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britracer89@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 12 10:20:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3970725848E7 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:20:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p02c11o141.mxlogic.net (p02c11o141.mxlogic.net [208.65.144.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A0025844CE for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:20:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO p02c11o141.mxlogic.net) by p02c11o141.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.1.0-0) with ESMTP id 1ee3ae35.2b60c7a58940.60269.00-563.173789.p02c11o141.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:20:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] by p02c11o141.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.1.0-0) with SMTP id 9ce3ae35.0.59904.00-306.173036.p02c11o141.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:20:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::c824:a29e:45a5:b81c]) by ATLPEXCAS01.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 12:20:22 -0400 From: John Hasty To: michael , "Robert M. Lang" , "fot@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Fot] Short Video Clip from last SUN Thread-Index: AQHPtj132NG/DtRA/U+NQR34FNHmu5vNJjtA Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:20:21 +0000 References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [192.168.123.236] a=VR8QHrWKYhK80xkEBGCjUg==] a=ygZ] a=BLceEmw] a=e66q1VIsAAA] a=J] a=] a=B6Oh] a=m3MdUl94] a=s2loLT2QvaoA] Subject: Re: [Fot] Short Video Clip from last SUN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yea...Mike...I agree it is backwards from the way I remember it from old motorcycle days..... John H. Hasty | MULLEN HOLLAND & COOPER P.A. Attorney at Law 301 South York Street (zip: 28052) P.O. Box 488 Gastonia, NC 28053-0488 Telephone: 704.864.6751 | Facsimile: 704.861.8394 JHasty@mhc-law.com | www.mhc-law.com -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of michael Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 10:55 AM To: Robert M. Lang; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Short Video Clip from last SUN Remembering racing at the old Bryar Motorsports Park many years ago, looking at Bob's video, my memory tells me that they are running the old road course in the opposite direction. The downhill section that re-joins the oval used to be an uphill in the 1960s-70s. Wonder why it was changed. Mike Cook > Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:45:27 -0400 > From: lang@isis.mit.edu > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Short Video Clip from last SUN > > Hi, > > I participated in a new SCCA event called the "Club Racing > Experience", aka CRE. They let folks that don't have current racing > creds race wheel-to-wheel under somewhat controlled circumstances. > > Lots of fun. > > http://youtu.be/J-PCZQNQ6TQ > > The track is the Road course at NHMS in Loudon, NH. > > I had a blast. > > Now to get my time-trial license converted to a novice road race license. > > :-) > > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mlcooknj@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 12 17:29:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 505B225850A1 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 17:29:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m07.mx.aol.com (omr-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4B3225808FA for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 17:29:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mca01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mca01.mx.aol.com [172.26.221.77]) by omr-m07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id BA48B70000095 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:29:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (adsl-69-210-134-127.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net [69.210.134.127]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mca01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 1620938000097 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:29:45 -0400 (EDT) References: <201408121755578.SM34744@TimDellVostro> From: Bill Dentinger Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 18:29:47 -0500 To: Friends of Triumph , x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1407886188; bh=oq6uS6lqA1QBh7H+RW+EL0WCoc7xmi+Vls2x0bpnQc4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=H8FfbTWEHr/hWAdL9a4T6GamImPqvEZYTbcg5jnhoYUO0y1xjSw9yrK62Byao/fxG cLFuhHplCPyvybKgPoFwBv5eL/6xdaAhazaz1O/jbww1g83RcoPPSt/QSi6nU9MOZl zTamst7yLGwlQ960yORe14yuq1eEeN0m5cppKGO4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1add4d53eaa36954ea Subject: [Fot] Fwd: TR6 PI question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tim asked me to POST this... Bill Dentinger Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: "Tim Murphy" > Date: August 12, 2014 at 5:54:38 PM CDT > To: > Subject: FW: [Fot] TR6 PI question > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Murphy [mailto:timmurph@fastbytes.com] > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 2:45 PM > To: 'EDWARD BARNARD'; 'Terry O'Beirne'; 'FOT' > Subject: RE: [Fot] TR6 PI question > > It sounds like badly fouled injector nozzles. When they are working > correctly they have a very fine spray when a pulse of fuel comes out. It is > very hard to see unless you pull one at a time and spray into a coffee can. > Then you can see the spray better and the fuel collecting on the sides of > the can. If I remember correctly the spray is a 60 degree cone. > > I at first sent my injectors to Kinsler Fuel Injection in Michigan. DO NOT > send your injectors there! I pretty much got ripped off. My final solution > was to purchase good rebuilt injectors from Precision Engineering and > Injection (Malcolm Jones) in England. I have since had further nozzles get > fouled and now I disassemble them and clean them in an ultrasonic cleaner > myself. I have had success doing this. It's quicker and cheaper than > sending them to England and back. The nozzles are quite simple, but > precision, parts. I made some special tools to disassemble and reassemble > them. > > Prior to doing this I went through the fuel system, fuel tank ( the TR5 does > not have baffles as the TR6 does, I added a fuel pickup on the other side of > the tank), return line, fuel pump and regulator. I did not have to touch > the fuel distributor. > > I have a fuel pressure gauge (for Bosch fuel injection systems but worked > good on the TR5 also) to check and set the pressure, which was pretty handy > also. > > My car also had a Bosch fuel pump, but not the correct one for the Lucas PI. > I replaced that and the regulator ultimately. > > There was quite a bit I learned as I got the TR5 to run right and keep it > running right. It would be easier to discuss this with you by phone. I can > lend you the fuel gauge and fittings if you like and could take a look at > the injector nozzles if you'd like. I also have two spare injectors that > work that you could try. Contact me and we can set up a time that will work > for both of us to talk about it. I have also been in contact with a TR5 > owner in Kansas who had problems and got his running correctly with help > from a competent shop in his area. Lastly, I have made friends with a fella > in England who has been a great help on the project. > > One thing about the Lucas PI, once they are running right they are quite > robust and reliable. BUT, all components have to be working correctly. > When I started on my car I didn't realize that the Lucas PI was used on the > F1 cars of the era and the Can-Am cars. > > Tim > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of EDWARD BARNARD > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 9:52 AM > To: Terry O'Beirne; FOT > Subject: [Fot] TR6 PI question > > Group and Terry: > I am singling Terry in addition to the entire group because I know he has a > lot of experience in this set-up. > We have acquired a real TR6 PI > (CP commission number) and I am having a problem with the PI system. It has > a Bosch pump and everything appears to be plumbed correctly. I have timed > the fuel distributor valve as the book says (multiple times) but, if I have > the injectors out and I turn on the ignition #6 injector sprays all the time > and the others never appear to spray. I have raw fuel coming from the > tailpipe (which I think it would seeing that 6 sprays continuously), but the > car will run to some degree, though it has no power. The valve appears to > rotate as I see the holes open and close in sequence with the firing order. > I am leaning towards the distributor valve being bad but could the car run > even half-ass with only 6 spraying? Is there a balance tube of sorts like on > a carb model that might allow some fuel to the other cylinders? Am I > hopelessly doomed? > (just kidding). > Any guidance is appreciated since this is the first PI I have had. > Thanks in advance - Ed > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph@fastbytes.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 12 17:36:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B89725851A7 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 17:36:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d06.mx.aol.com (omr-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD5625803F4 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 17:34:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-aaa02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-aaa02.mx.aol.com [172.27.1.226]) by omr-d06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 3FCE17000413F for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:34:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (adsl-69-210-134-127.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net [69.210.134.127]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-aaa02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id B066F3800008E for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:34:56 -0400 (EDT) References: <001201cfb680$65eec650$31cc52f0$@com> From: Bill Dentinger Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 18:34:59 -0500 To: Friends of Triumph x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1407886497; bh=ir32oOvdzNgePHFQaqO5JON+Dbx9ckloToCg87eal3Q=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=nZUo03ZWIWY+IqqX+rhhGnpccStBmFEZyqNVhZ1ppwpKKrTCXjfrqtltgPyhqHkrQ wrJmUmQPdsuB/uD/zDRBi9nrHlVxODsp2C8/U1bNmLpTD0VKUEVzaGvMpurr2R5XK1 tisxtzW5XecpioX7ysh8naZF2t+O2yJW9tX1yBOw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b01e253eaa4a04f92 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: WTD : Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net 2nd email Tim Murphy asked me to post Bill Dentinger Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: "Tim Murphy" > Date: August 12, 2014 at 5:54:38 PM CDT > To: > Subject: FW: [Fot] WTD : > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Murphy [mailto:timmurph@fastbytes.com] > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 2:52 PM > To: 'Tony and Annie Garmey'; 'fot@autox.team.net' > Subject: RE: [Fot] WTD : > > What are the sources for billet cranks for the TR4? After getting great > responses on my question about prepping stock cranks, I might be better off > "biting the bullet" and getting a billet crank. Thanks by the way for all. > the responses on the stock crank prep question. I've been having some > problems with my internet connection plus some health problems so I > sometimes am not too quick getting back to folks. My apologies. > > ( I live in a rural area and the only high speed internet is by a wireless > connection or satellite. I have wireless and now trees are starting to get > in the way so I'm having to do some antenna tower work!) > > Tim > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tony and Annie > Garmey > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 1:56 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] WTD : > > Hi all, > > Anyone know where I might locate a 13 inch, black leather steering wheel ? > > I,m also needing a TR4 billet Crank. Anyone have one sitting around ? > > Thank you > > Tony Garmey > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph@fastbytes.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 12 21:20:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56122584AB3 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:20:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f178.google.com (mail-ig0-f178.google.com [209.85.213.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135062584490 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:19:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f178.google.com with SMTP id uq10so450540igb.11 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:20:03 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:reply-to:sensitivity:importance :subject:to:from:date:content-type:mime-version; bh=9yOZKCjfx16sgCAOpoUI3XVcyXf3VLsBLL8uuwXiE8U=; b=NjQoDEAR76Y1Lion7t06E3dT9uQcRYRCNKMDAEHPRfH6+HWXavD/3ggKSmDQLPJIyf yENuZj3m6ZaGfZxoaZox1gHfbUZHZbiA9XwE5CDirQSk8OZ4qRF7i1kvzx4OVZOXyi6D s1GGJpi3b/1Cu1Vci+1/llZAj3jQPm4uQIc6P/Ji4i9bJ5SAJ0K5yC6FUaRc4o2TIq4E AGkP/pu8lagIqQAueLTwE3AMeoqExvN0si2fUaBq3zr/BQ6pxR+jqa2RnJQ54KKSwtQh VIZ83TzFK9QUiKgtL8bQYFvBDeRNVOpvdHz65DyS9oDMiuzrjUgJA4gKHsvb//NBrit2 J7FA== iv5mr3050609icb.43.1407900003013; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.186 (bda-74-82-80-88.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.88]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w10sm67922343igr.18.2014.08.12.20.20.02 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:20:02 -0700 (PDT) Sensitivity: Normal To: "Fot" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 03:19:58 +0000 Subject: [Fot] GT6 stub axle refit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The Torque spec for the stub axle to vertical link is 100 lb. ft. It took a hell of alot more torque to pop it out. When putting it back together, is the 100#s of torque (by wrench) enough or is there more force needed to press the stub axle into the vertical link. What is the correct way to press these in prior to the final 90 to 100 lbs of torque? Thanks for any guidance. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 12 21:20:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A3702584B19 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:20:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f175.google.com (mail-ig0-f175.google.com [209.85.213.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B8A258458E for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:19:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f175.google.com with SMTP id uq10so8882584igb.14 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:20:16 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:reply-to:sensitivity:importance :subject:to:from:date:content-type:mime-version; bh=9yOZKCjfx16sgCAOpoUI3XVcyXf3VLsBLL8uuwXiE8U=; b=Ar6Ko5Iq7MNTRWO6ZwGtQXAnK+ys2gYMq5EGv1dX0akQnsEh/gXJATRM45eaw/1q/z GiDRW+uNmHDmDjRS5rC6lLTYnlI3SKtcwzyF8N2LHs9S0uWJnIRWXSLnLQhev5v2ZIKh C0UTeAtYDo0b9c90Xa0oxrlEYd6mn1vDjHCWKai7c2Lyb/MfQnb2ck5i8Sntn+oojXml 2vQZACu1bMOIta8YGqOLDIRITXkSLi+YYm10+wb/vr0io5zLfVMAtgTOGUqLJLOY/NN4 beF/IZt424RHgQ5ARQoK7En286nuPET3BUxmpc7lR88Cfr9Bx6SNlqfSYejjZsLA6+Ur poDA== sc9mr44372353igb.29.1407900015954; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.186 (bda-74-82-80-88.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.88]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id it3sm3681109igb.1.2014.08.12.20.20.15 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Sensitivity: Normal To: "Fot" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 03:19:58 +0000 Subject: [Fot] GT6 stub axle refit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The Torque spec for the stub axle to vertical link is 100 lb. ft. It took a hell of alot more torque to pop it out. When putting it back together, is the 100#s of torque (by wrench) enough or is there more force needed to press the stub axle into the vertical link. What is the correct way to press these in prior to the final 90 to 100 lbs of torque? Thanks for any guidance. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 13 12:42:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33BF22584944 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 12:42:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm20-vm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm20-vm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A792580A2C for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 12:42:02 -0600 (MDT) s=s2048; t=1407955357; bh=Do7uZUCOU9eIDx2ps2ubTLb9ryfwIzGmYOLj+4Bozxo=; b=OLB1R01dYnWQL6JHsYLYyIixWqP5foj9xhK3BH8lsRxv2nTb+hC9YIwaZQewILTuFBQv+t1JfTAPNPn+215hjinPjmGcbMZN/x/UxgnxBz6aDs2rCWwTXlOXU4A4NYXbZAhXGWhqDF8UmZcYWVUikMbW07B7L1rrl7RjrkntVgLKt6lHRThje218sKq0psIL6q/emkOdOOtgRNPSpIC2JFaE9DGfjMtsz6j8jmwezh/DSRzc8/5GKN7ACm4iEiwYCZbY/rKl2yHaVqIFhZL3U4SnkXYkiErqh+Y5KYiYTIk7MQKfFtokzgIsg1WzzxwFwpIxD2cnkRlqz0J9WXR/+w== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=rogers.com; b=oVgKZVyNCICCoYcDThVhOC3MfO8i10Xeb0JO9+feJONeE/6lDYhFw2XY6PtDd6NqOQXor5MZsYVbvYKdFligic0hjwfMEOf0Yk3CxTUVH2vszBuLgcbfLhwilRGiPhy/sohfKEUzf/5nsoxkfJXzNrCo1xe7DaE5gRzZZLFYQR+VUotqSxR/D850D/RNqVS4Gj1TvXMFoQxBIR9VBURmZCn/SmmId7J2amr5WCbf26dyQu35UD4ilRDOo9JPmr23BC/53v8hO7GhmwSOPFuCMhtvSBJPUgiFfStpn/QChpGH3cxoPqk+bFHNcNuVlj9iTjD6dEc/hp1G9CQfmG/uqg==; Received: from [216.39.60.169] by nm20.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Aug 2014 18:42:37 -0000 Received: from [67.195.22.116] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Aug 2014 18:42:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp111.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Aug 2014 18:42:37 -0000 s=s1024; t=1407955357; bh=Do7uZUCOU9eIDx2ps2ubTLb9ryfwIzGmYOLj+4Bozxo=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=uZvJKzs81MGCxw8xv7ClQpmkuWdivS5HOFpDTV9LybrMgBpt/wyX/37ucGVK53ihR5lFubNbqs7mrp3pzymmT3UHPFE38Y7tiVDWrlCiomIbL78f0RApdBmmEIe1/BIPjF1edRa2OGvJD5zDVPB6pJ4UTvUXal5kBZ/Tvod1Dow= nSLs.wYzJH4Z_b7G.GqSZKho0lF.XmQRP4HbijWGiBp35hLdpHFUTdQzObLH Rn_blRRdJOl5ak95fkC55b6jZRJfvtn8Ye9J_PoHR38zWFZ68_PmZrP_ofQs y8x_hlkQqVnxDefHewFu_3H255MBWoPjucjd3FSS7JFhMM8Kol8VR35PO7RL BL5OmhNffQ8iTQ6CyX2vSIjk81xnEpNLr1St0a_QNtfxaDnK9FleXIahLTlR Qo_0zs3nF_5bp6cD8pcko9.FlHYVYRyYKFT4PeMYUo_pTMbgTpdC7DphMlx1 _XBGcVFk8M22gvRNQWG4.bRWbN8t6C7AGt7MQr_bddjgipnb5GdDT6XR7bwd ztfW0ddTypYsnmq7app7uD9I1pGbUie3EKx6xyHOEluM7sYROv7X.9no5RL7 abfbJuBg_Uge.viXsFB4ZE6IHuEQ03iB.7Yu.pCrzOIvRRujajb3BXQnLgnQ oHc57Ve3wRETtpG.j0z33dyXa5xGho1tl5fr4QBo0Gy95mJfCh6f2aytPSND 5lGbfvBktPd1sxxLTMb2uEAn0m9MPmEqsgTTWn4fL96v8FW8pFJpP2VYhDK1 vDIPCsn5saHduplzuTtRqm8Ns2BZEeNFiFL0W2imiLPs- From: "Paul MacDonald" To: "Fot" , "Tr8 List" Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 14:42:36 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac+3Jlkf4kZZZOSuTLexMYo+sXCVjQ== Content-Language: en-ca Subject: [Fot] Group44 TR8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131267493224?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649 &ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Finally, a model of this car. Paul _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 14 06:29:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A4E25845B3 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 06:29:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail70c28.carrierzone.com (mail70c28.carrierzone.com [66.175.52.155]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B64625806EB for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 06:26:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail70c28.carrierzone.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail70c28.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id s7ECQnBv018346 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 14 Aug 2014 12:26:50 +0000 Received: (from webmail@localhost) by mail70c28.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.12.2/Submit) id s7ECQnLO018345; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 12:26:49 +0000 Received: from d-128-235-182.bootp.Virginia.EDU (d-128-235-182.bootp.Virginia.EDU [128.143.235.182]) by webmail.lumos.net (Webmail 5.0 V.V.I.) with HTTP for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 08:26:49 -0400 From: "=?utf-8?b?Ui4gSm9obiBMeWU=?=" To: Fot , Tr8 List , "Paul MacDonald" Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 08:26:49 -0400 References: <001501cfb726$5b2782b0$11768810$@rogers.com> User-Agent: Webmail 6.0 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] Group44 TR8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Its worth looking at their other models, as well.B They have a couple of other cars that this group might be interested in. John On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 14:42:36 -0400, Paul MacDonald wrote: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131267493224?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649 > ame=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT> &ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT > > -- Thanks, John rjl@gt-classics.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 14 07:20:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42CD258459C for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 07:20:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f171.google.com (mail-ig0-f171.google.com [209.85.213.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4530E258046F for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 07:20:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f171.google.com with SMTP id l13so13492416iga.16 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 06:20:39 -0700 (PDT) h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:thread-index:content-language; bh=dlZunKBX/7o+Abp2SBX+ZP+dgXA0bBFDFrlXxf290Jo=; b=Ma+qpw5MTFk7N0fjkEv9q+MF25kbIi6h9lCtb6R50BtoVPtIH+dZL0CVE8Aqw29Jpk PZyq39mb8iSkC8HF3kj/q9uR+LzwblcjyyOvhN8Ma91rLtfFN2iLKGojpxAZwsYvZPaH O+c45vgF2pq6ECsGwFmkNQoQrp8RWabWMEbQlld6oRNVLS2kZFlQXAjIoWUEKMUMte17 im9yMgWRA7vQp4u4Ogr+HzfNgXmd0qblQTvZmyAfZE/DqpNO1e7futJVM7M/4YHBWbft yw/AISCL6ufUtxN0Pcd7PnsJHtEgalYiZ6YgdD9uabJWj5b5Wb26fpsAoY3GqQmTYtWQ zBfg== Thu, 14 Aug 2014 06:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SnookPC (cpe-71-72-104-70.columbus.res.rr.com. [71.72.104.70]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id l4sm84651031igt.20.2014.08.14.06.20.38 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 14 Aug 2014 06:20:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jeff Snook" To: Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 09:20:52 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac+3wpJDCB1sApvOQwqA5simBxR96Q== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] TR4/6 Clutch Pressure Plate Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hey all, My TR3 race car is close to being ready to race again. Hurray!! We have seen evidence of clutch slipping and want to replace the pressure plate. We used to use the TR4A pressure plate, but have been hearing the new ones do not apply as much pressure as previous. We are wondering if anyone out there who is thrashing a TR3/4 around the racetrack (using Triumph parts) has any suggestions for what will have the highest pressure. Thanks in advance for any advice, Jeff, Terry, Glen Jeff Snook http://www.snooksdreamcars.com 419-344-0319 (Mobile) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 14 13:50:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00762584F4B for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 13:50:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9AE32580BD3 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 13:50:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.88]) by qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id eix21o0081u4NiLADjrBWR; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 19:51:11 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-208v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.176.218]) by omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ejrB1o00A4j68Km8hjrBKS; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 19:51:11 +0000 Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 19:51:11 +0000 (UTC) From: toodamnfunky@comcast.net To: fot (Win)/8.0.3_GA_5664) Thread-Topic: Modern internals in Smith gauges Thread-Index: 7Fiw+Z6PIlMseYYf3q1qh0LOCAlAaw== s=q20140121; t=1408045871; bh=tix08RR83AoCCmWeqhX4CQAOPoQE7AVQ/r3E4Q8qcEg=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=DoiYFwyi23YzVgQqAZra+nCUKfZVyPHAaz4EkOrF7o/i+n6kpPiVNDC0OBvuxocv3 6UNBgUEoIfrMrnylZkMyhu7j0VG/r4gA5LgDA9AecZlUPQX4pzXiNA+WPJTVSCYwH9 Cw3sNSnkDDDyyyVDv64PtMcr1wC448lDEKRBouR1dsWubbvsxB5vzMmKAQLU83IE/e hsS67uBmZfJBL14/9t7xgIgRCj+H3oqKUjKcmthVv7BqEGk4UKllgOtVkmZwK5J+Qq +vHCObB/TtmQRoWmAIJJhRoWcE5vFi7nV+X4LXGZ+orTroa8Vey73SOC8T00nwZd+n hspGD63JFldcQ== Subject: [Fot] Modern internals in Smith gauges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone know of a source to get modern internals in a Smiths tach. I'm trying to get all my instruments back to original in appearance.B jim gB _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 14 15:14:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D5725808DC for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 15:14:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC2S7.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s7.hotmail.com [65.55.111.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3907258043D for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 15:14:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU402-EAS301 ([65.55.111.72]) by BLU004-OMC2S7.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:15:23 -0700 From: marty To: =?utf-8?Q?FOT?= Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 21:12:30 +0000 FILETIME=[DC6ACB00:01CFB804] Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Spit_1500_Crank?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Received a call from a local owner today in real need for a Spitfire 1500 crankshaft. Anybody have for for sale? Thanks, Marty _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 14 16:08:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EA52580A36 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 16:08:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.159]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72F89258073E for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 16:07:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Charly (unknown [63.228.114.142]) (Authenticated sender: charly@mitchelplumbing.com) by smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 11C3F5D80A8; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 17:08:33 -0500 (CDT) From: "Charly Mitchel" To: , "fot" References: <1606493675.1032537.1408045871267.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 15:08:32 -0700 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] Modern internals in Smith gauges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I think it's MOMA in 1321 2nd Street NW Albuquerque, NM 87102 Phone: (505) 766-6661 Charly ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "fot" Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 12:51 PM Subject: [Fot] Modern internals in Smith gauges > Does anyone know of a source to get modern internals in a Smiths tach. I'm > trying to get all my instruments back to > original in appearance.B > jim gB > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 14 17:48:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1421C2584F7E for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 17:48:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f42.google.com (mail-oa0-f42.google.com [209.85.219.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564F925806B9 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 17:47:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id n16so1564121oag.15 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 16:48:21 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bUNHdj4p+mGXQZvS+VejVrQv56C8HtxkkjQbRj/4hRs=; b=He/awYO/40Jv9Xo7lCDFTSIA6AItu/ryBRfNCZyFzIPWUCsFd8p7FCvAvGYJqA/Sf3 Ydeq9Kp62ldX1VWg/htDTxs3d5TszKpf4oeM3k6T+LLdcpjKKj6sJ+mzQxnAEmT49gta cJByeh7C0P+j4P0oKcOXb1WcyYZY17j0jyUcdDmdR1h85Pd7K9ERpDz3q4IzErUdBi39 iDBpErGfH7TiYE0pQ1Hl+fZHMvMAu3DelsANmPOfg3T1b3L8rAz9U91l5vhs5ZLrojtX 2bUJrx7XrtoUeQcri7oV2EabrForcHGqy0+jsKUAyfbAnQ3TTCmePynF34G9FP4oBCNS CQUw== u5mr16957787obo.30.1408060101691; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 16:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Duncans-MacBook-Pro.local (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id u5sm7046615obt.18.2014.08.14.16.48.21 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 14 Aug 2014 16:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 18:48:20 -0500 From: Duncan Charlton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <1606493675.1032537.1408045871267.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] Modern internals in Smith gauges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You might also check with Nisonger in NY. They repaired a damaged tach for me that had already been modified by a previous owner. Duncan On 8/14/14, 2:51 PM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: > Does anyone know of a source to get modern internals in a Smiths tach. I'm > trying to get all my instruments back to > original in appearance.B > jim gB > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 14 20:55:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10EFA2584FA3 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 20:55:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A0725845B8 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 20:55:27 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge01 smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [166.176.120.2] ([166.176.120.2:29247] helo=[10.152.166.146]) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 11/33-19062-2C67DE35; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 02:56:03 +0000 References: <1606493675.1032537.1408045871267.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <53ED4AC4.6010301@gmail.com> From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 21:56:02 -0500 To: Duncan Charlton Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Modern internals in Smith gauges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Duncan, Did I see a post that you have a bunch of TR motors you are looking to off load? Let me know what you have. I will have additional storage space soon. Thanks, Greg > On Aug 14, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Duncan Charlton wrote: > > You might also check with Nisonger in NY. They repaired a damaged tach for me that had already been modified by a previous owner. > > Duncan > >> On 8/14/14, 2:51 PM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: >> Does anyone know of a source to get modern internals in a Smiths tach. I'm >> trying to get all my instruments back to >> original in appearance.B >> jim gB >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 15 01:48:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4798B2584640 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 01:48:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23842580414 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 01:47:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id evoQ1o0031zF43QA7voQCt; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 07:48:24 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([71.196.165.168]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id evoN1o00E3eKESF8kvoPAJ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 07:48:24 +0000 From: Bud R Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 01:48:22 -0600 References: <1606493675.1032537.1408045871267.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net s=q20140121; t=1408088904; bh=GMXjO5ARcPyVG3iS2bE5Ix5raCgq2qk5RlzIk0FLdb4=; h=Received:Received:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From:Date: Message-Id:To; b=ZKcskdN/Y1EvUPDrgBvzZ6r8b9nyR5GDOjvhxkRKCqS5PpqlbquHU+aQ87Rf5tzie KcsyIa/smrn41ogGugDVs+qHvAujIl6E8dtZlPDdHu9gPRJzBqiYNTr2fNLQfdfnxV 8mC399r9qPL96c75esjevZE8gkDn9McWaVRArgD5zMB44oEYojr8RqEY7P/3A8qZf4 XbHcXsLkARXan45sDhTu2BW8MHJ+jhbCWn7jNt2OMWZVuNbhzCTdVh3tJqEZbQKHri 5msBYhZYjU9Mv/VMzSNTmGZiB1mXGc4uSkSXYMRtliVWqtcC//55AUB2k8tQdpcjm6 9VbtScuOLHfWQ== Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Modern internals in Smith gauges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Jim, I had APT convert the tach on my TR6 to electric. Its been great. http://www.gaugeguys.com Bud Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Aug 14, 2014, at 1:51 PM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: > Does anyone know of a source to get modern internals in a Smiths tach. I'm > trying to get all my instruments back to > original in appearance.B > jim gB > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 15 05:04:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8168258462F for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 05:04:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (isis.mit.edu [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A142580795 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 05:04:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s7FB5KC5012013; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 07:05:20 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 07:05:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net References: <1606493675.1032537.1408045871267.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Modern internals in Smith gauges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net www.gaugeguys.com aka APT Instruments. I had a TR6 tach done there years ago. They swapped the guts to electrical. Works great. regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: > Does anyone know of a source to get modern internals in a Smiths tach. I'm > trying to get all my instruments back to > original in appearance.B > jim gB > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/lang@isis.mit.edu _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 15 08:47:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B1C2584634 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 08:47:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p02c12o147.mxlogic.net (p02c12o147.mxlogic.net [208.65.145.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EF825803B6 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 08:47:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO p02c12o147.mxlogic.net) by p02c12o147.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.1.0-0) with ESMTP id 4bd1ee35.2aaf930a8940.4477.00-546.12710.p02c12o147.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Fri, 15 Aug 2014 08:48:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] by p02c12o147.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.1.0-0) with SMTP id 6ad1ee35.0.4299.00-333.12228.p02c12o147.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Fri, 15 Aug 2014 08:48:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::c824:a29e:45a5:b81c]) by ATLPEXCAS02.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 10:48:01 -0400 From: John Hasty To: Greg And Alison Blake , Duncan Charlton Thread-Topic: [Fot] Modern internals in Smith gauges Thread-Index: AQHPuDR8HCWnSv1w3UGa2ZdDE+sSKJvRv5+w Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 14:48:00 +0000 References: <1606493675.1032537.1408045871267.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <53ED4AC4.6010301@gmail.com> <52CC2918-D97A-4F8F-9E60-031BEDE9095B@austin.rr.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [192.168.123.236] a=VR8QHrWKYhK80xkEBGCjUg==] a=0bx] a=BLceEmw] a=e66q1VIsAAA] a=C] a=F_MbXuxA] a=MVDrL] a=Z6qnhhopS] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Modern internals in Smith gauges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bunch of TR motors? What kind and where are they?????? John H. Hasty | MULLEN HOLLAND & COOPER P.A. Attorney at Law 301 South York Street (zip: 28052) P.O. Box 488 Gastonia, NC 28053-0488 Telephone: 704.864.6751 | Facsimile: 704.861.8394 JHasty@mhc-law.com | www.mhc-law.com -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg And Alison Blake Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 10:56 PM To: Duncan Charlton Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Modern internals in Smith gauges Duncan, Did I see a post that you have a bunch of TR motors you are looking to off load? Let me know what you have. I will have additional storage space soon. Thanks, Greg > On Aug 14, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Duncan Charlton > wrote: > > You might also check with Nisonger in NY. They repaired a damaged > tach for me that had already been modified by a previous owner. > > Duncan > >> On 8/14/14, 2:51 PM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: >> Does anyone know of a source to get modern internals in a Smiths >> tach. I'm trying to get all my instruments back to original in >> appearance.B jim gB _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 15 08:54:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17171258466C for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 08:54:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F972580700 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 08:54:21 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: dnvrco-oedge03 smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.70.248] ([107.14.70.248:59064] helo=dnvrco-web01) by dnvrco-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id FC/B3-28546-14F1EE35; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 14:54:57 +0000 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 14:54:57 +0000 From: To: Duncan Charlton , John Hasty , Greg And Alison Blake Sensitivity: Normal Aug 2014 14:54:57 +0000 a=wAyFwspFC75BjEd6OtOw1g==:117 a=wAyFwspFC75BjEd6OtOw1g==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=lOtF7LNIUcQA:10 a=0bxIX9Imlt4A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=e66q1VIsAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=vcI0arDcmee2Iq6v4rYA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=MVDrLQDD3NUA:10 a=B6OhLMug29UA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=Z6qnhhopSLEA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Modern internals in Smith gauges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I don't know about Duncan but I have an excess. We are both in the Austin TX area. Bob Kramer rkramer3@austin.rr.com ---- John Hasty wrote: > Bunch of TR motors? What kind and where are they?????? > > John H. Hasty | MULLEN HOLLAND & COOPER P.A. > Attorney at Law > 301 South York Street (zip: 28052) > P.O. Box 488 > Gastonia, NC 28053-0488 > Telephone: 704.864.6751 | Facsimile: 704.861.8394 > JHasty@mhc-law.com | www.mhc-law.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg And Alison > Blake > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 10:56 PM > To: Duncan Charlton > Cc: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Modern internals in Smith gauges > > Duncan, > > Did I see a post that you have a bunch of TR motors you are looking to off > load? Let me know what you have. I will have additional storage space soon. > > Thanks, > > Greg > > > On Aug 14, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Duncan Charlton > > > wrote: > > > > You might also check with Nisonger in NY. They repaired a damaged > > tach for > me that had already been modified by a previous owner. > > > > Duncan > > > >> On 8/14/14, 2:51 PM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: > >> Does anyone know of a source to get modern internals in a Smiths > >> tach. I'm trying to get all my instruments back to original in > >> appearance.B jim gB _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 15 14:05:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912E725807C4 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 14:05:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f47.google.com (mail-oi0-f47.google.com [209.85.218.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256222580768 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 14:05:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f47.google.com with SMTP id x69so2001133oia.6 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 13:05:36 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1g2up2Fb+Zf7bm+BXzG6VoooDI4uAzaEPbzactMyEe8=; b=LYpTeXBGXCCSUyfaGw1BVCjUGT0ZkEYRcLC7EMWjQbTRtnDbLVJXSXEAW/RUsSlGO+ caHkp74pgP7ezZu1KwmDDQeEzO6qu2S4okBqJEcYhOky34IWNWnJALPNI4C0TV7aWOkB pv0qFey/i4N5+H9Y1U6K3kLxm5Y/g53IUrSWt7aI3RrpweW8GXDZ9X0O5d/9fEvXob2x zkl8yxQcFNO5vMVLiElph3ItNu5fGvflU5OEpBacuMSeCEtMtIo+1bMAvLck7oHZ+BN5 FrHglmVbPjJrzNTAN8mGp36mGFyn8Rwj9YlbhVc+XyAKtt0Oz/c8SLYbxSr4M5oIb3ar 7sEA== k1mr22593193oeu.61.1408133136833; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 13:05:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Duncans-MacBook-Pro.local (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id lh5sm861475obc.3.2014.08.15.13.05.35 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 15 Aug 2014 13:05:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 15:05:34 -0500 From: Duncan Charlton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: John Hasty , Greg And Alison Blake References: <1606493675.1032537.1408045871267.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <53ED4AC4.6010301@gmail.com> <52CC2918-D97A-4F8F-9E60-031BEDE9095B@austin.rr.com> Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Modern internals in Smith gauges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net John, Here's what I put in my local ad: >>One late TR4 engine (has aluminum pushrod tubes in head), unknown mileage and condition. Fan and clutch are still installed, as is valve gear. It's been stored inside but I can't turn it over by hand. One bare early >>high-port TR3 head which appears to be uncut and in good condition. Three used stock Triumph crankshafts. Three used TR camshafts of unknown specification. One set of used 83mm pistons and liners. If there is >>any interest I will check condition and clearances/undersizes for interested parties. Duncan Charlton near Austin, TX On 8/15/14, 9:48 AM, John Hasty wrote: > Bunch of TR motors? What kind and where are they?????? > > John H. Hasty | MULLEN HOLLAND & COOPER P.A. > Attorney at Law > 301 South York Street (zip: 28052) > P.O. Box 488 > Gastonia, NC 28053-0488 > Telephone: 704.864.6751 | Facsimile: 704.861.8394 > JHasty@mhc-law.com | www.mhc-law.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg And Alison Blake > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 10:56 PM > To: Duncan Charlton > Cc: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Modern internals in Smith gauges > > Duncan, > > Did I see a post that you have a bunch of TR motors you are looking to off load? Let me know what you have. I will have additional storage space soon. > > Thanks, > > Greg > >> On Aug 14, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Duncan Charlton >> > wrote: >> You might also check with Nisonger in NY. They repaired a damaged >> tach for > me that had already been modified by a previous owner. >> Duncan >> >>> On 8/14/14, 2:51 PM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: >>> Does anyone know of a source to get modern internals in a Smiths >>> tach. I'm trying to get all my instruments back to original in >>> appearance.B jim gB _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 16 08:51:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33449258468F for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 08:51:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 808C1258069D for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 08:50:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id fSYz1o0050FhH24A3SrKaU; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:51:19 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([24.22.75.60]) by omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id fSrH1o00w1J37AG8USrJ8e; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:51:18 +0000 Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 07:51:17 -0700 From: Jim Norlin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: FOT , Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley s=q20140121; t=1408200679; bh=8lfEA0MZ5U+IzpcSC5hEAW4kwthhNNw4Pj6VlcFmNCw=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=ZOOx6eXWaEztlHvGL7PZBuMV3TWzvyaZAxxtQgxDB3boMpBuai+MCLRKZ37Jges65 9NgVWGDED9McNP2y36W6sf+gqmzGUB5hLFPROzvrLSVyiFZtxXZp6ph/UkYli6hZWd mauZcM8R3LG6940yWf9Exx8DzDn69jljmdC/lpoqPKqpWhQbR7UF3CRgFk12zXjYr9 j2cPMzQ7JLckhtQbykoqpxTWJPQ0mIlE/HukXVUubIyp17Z8+GxdY4/5qOJu9tLllB cAcb2GckenGw5t9vpbeUvK4ZFnSwSSl/wPwbIjZfNzlurY8OkaAo5V1liQmsBDSzwv 7MsuLE25xmL+A== Subject: [Fot] Last Weekend at The Ridge Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBfq2UeWwME Last weekend, Patty ran our Spitfire at The Ridge, outside of Shelton, WA. This is only the 3rd season that the track has been in operation and it is a blast. Very challenging with lots of elevation change and some blind corners. The video has Patty chasing Charly Mitchell and Chuck Arnold in their TR6's until Chuck spins about mid race. Skip Yocum in a 240Z is also in the mix. It was his first time at the track and he used Patty as an instructor for several laps before passing and then mixing it up with Charly. Enjoy _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 16 09:39:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57FE425846AB for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 09:39:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC2S17.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s17.hotmail.com [65.55.111.92]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C56B25807C3 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 09:39:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU436-SMTP66 ([65.55.111.72]) by BLU004-OMC2S17.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Sat, 16 Aug 2014 08:39:37 -0700 Received: from Antec300 ([75.165.122.44]) by BLU436-SMTP66.smtp.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(8.0.9200.16384); Sat, 16 Aug 2014 08:39:35 -0700 From: Jack Brooks To: "'FOT'" References: <53EF6FE5.902@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 08:39:29 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac+5YY8N54LhXLkuTdO8nNHg+ANNLwABgZCQ FILETIME=[486D8C70:01CFB968] Subject: Re: [Fot] Last Weekend at The Ridge Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Nice! I need to get the Ridge on my radar and get out there. I've never been to the track. Jack -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Norlin Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 7:51 AM To: FOT; Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley Subject: [Fot] Last Weekend at The Ridge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBfq2UeWwME Last weekend, Patty ran our Spitfire at The Ridge, outside of Shelton, WA. This is only the 3rd season that the track has been in operation and it is a blast. Very challenging with lots of elevation change and some blind corners. The video has Patty chasing Charly Mitchell and Chuck Arnold in their TR6's until Chuck spins about mid race. Skip Yocum in a 240Z is also in the mix. It was his first time at the track and he used Patty as an instructor for several laps before passing and then mixing it up with Charly. Enjoy _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jibrooks@live.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 16 09:49:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF4712580808 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 09:49:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f181.google.com (mail-lb0-f181.google.com [209.85.217.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA3625807C3 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 09:49:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f181.google.com with SMTP id 10so2883150lbg.12 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 08:49:53 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=I6/Tcp/3jNZP6XqsS3XNr/dWGqW05sjX3BPyxwDiVHw=; b=dVVe/yWOy6DqdsJGZjOPbXbFF159w9KcyjSIzmGlZviD+b0/gHCiGjalI5eGZhIEoY V8ctT/x0ERnVEdVGvmG4XRTwq/UZtdyh1p/2UdQr+X6jxXGSP5cwHlM0kv0StMCK5lH/ z5FcxcX572VGyIg+YdR8Zsm06RlQf7IF/nu7/LwdCWFP/cFAIMvlYBCvpmMX1KDqwglV 0Ii6iWgs6MDcWBEp87pH5w04IH7U/4KydBBjpt4gt2u30Q7Xqdw3Dbqnjy3FObmuGjpF OkGVF2eHP+Q7IioQfrlrgtMA0j+XS/OETLpkcOX4OnNfTH0e3VH7gO3HOd+/N3o58VKm vASA== u2mr2105649lau.68.1408204193128; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 08:49:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.166.224.31]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o15sm7017545laa.44.2014.08.16.08.49.51 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 16 Aug 2014 08:49:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'FOT'" References: <53EF6FE5.902@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 17:49:53 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac+5YaGHsqYrDdzNTeq01vJ5SzL+FgAB+1EQ Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Last Weekend at The Ridge Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Great track and great driving. The only thing what makes me nervous are the tree close by. Certainly not a track to get somewhere into the off. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Jim Norlin Gesendet: Samstag, 16. August 2014 16:51 An: FOT; Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley Betreff: [Fot] Last Weekend at The Ridge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBfq2UeWwME Last weekend, Patty ran our Spitfire at The Ridge, outside of Shelton, WA. This is only the 3rd season that the track has been in operation and it is a blast. Very challenging with lots of elevation change and some blind corners. The video has Patty chasing Charly Mitchell and Chuck Arnold in their TR6's until Chuck spins about mid race. Skip Yocum in a 240Z is also in the mix. It was his first time at the track and he used Patty as an instructor for several laps before passing and then mixing it up with Charly. Enjoy _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 16 12:06:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E8A258470A for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:06:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f180.google.com (mail-pd0-f180.google.com [209.85.192.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7044925809E1 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:06:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f180.google.com with SMTP id v10so5065545pde.39 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:07:26 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=crDd03hiz7LjGAG3C2VfHrfDF4YDw0IWt8EQ8Y7jgTc=; b=No5mUpDMsF3df9TGJ7J3RJ1vjVOMQkx/ZRT0QUFvOYpoUiJRF0e6soFiF/N14tKmNE V5boF7JD/dUnh+DtzYbBi88g5gp+ixfz7Dw+lRLNq/Tsq83wHTJo9lNvKCrB/MSC5gB5 JKLX4YpxRJRWLj70B+QszV6cj740xD1CL3NnBvEAVFQcQQDN6oCBofGh2NuBSx1m74/S U4HWxUJ2MvUI827w9SxMUO2OwXd8jKD2oa+EPK8btaxGlYJIx28/91/U5SKvtDSHzUvK Y3GeOQuB4Ea3xnf/CBmBezmq2TPD0MlNoPTXd3qXQBXY6GbqdtQU5QP32PcjZ3/tF0AP lGvg== z10mr21781563pbt.59.1408212446030; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.5.233 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:06:45 -0700 (PDT) References: <53EF6FE5.902@comcast.net> From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:06:45 -0700 To: Jim Norlin Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Last Weekend at The Ridge Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Jim and Patty. Very nice driving, except for my miserable attempt at stopping a spin. m My video shows my hands going a;; over the place -- no wonder I went right. Our lap times behind Charly [Red TR6] were in the 2:09-2:11 time frame. On the lap after the spin I did a 2:07. Just could not figure out how to get around him. Really lousy start by me -- couldn't see the stater till I moved way left and created quite a hole for Charly who did see the flag and got a jump on me. got to learn to "own" the track a little more as I should have moved left directly on his tail after the pass. Once I do some editing I will post my spin -- and the nice catch I make at lap later at the entrance to turn 3. I did spin a rod bearing on lap nine leading to a broken rod. The smoke you see from me is actually oil dropson the header coming from a not quite tight enough fitting for where I plumb the accusump to the oil lines. On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Jim Norlin wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBfq2UeWwME > > Last weekend, Patty ran our Spitfire at The Ridge, outside of Shelton, > WA. This is only the 3rd season that the track has been in operation and > it is a blast. Very challenging with lots of elevation change and some > blind corners. The video has Patty chasing Charly Mitchell and Chuck > Arnold in their TR6's until Chuck spins about mid race. Skip Yocum in a > 240Z is also in the mix. It was his first time at the track and he used > Patty as an instructor for several laps before passing and then mixing it > up with Charly. > > Enjoy _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 16 12:29:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB4F3258094C for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:29:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d04.mx.aol.com (omr-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.201]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB6482580948 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:29:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aai02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aai02.mx.aol.com [172.27.2.100]) by omr-d04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 5697C7000008C; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:29:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dtd005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dtd005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.163.145]) by mtaomg-aai02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0D1AE38000082; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:29:51 -0400 (EDT) References: <53EF6FE5.902@comcast.net> To: triosan@gmail.com, norlinengineering@comcast.net Received: from 198.14.215.15 by webmail-vn001.sysops.aol.com (149.174.73.128) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:29:50 -0400 From: Bruce Lapierre Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:29:50 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1408213791; bh=TqaszL6nbth15U0nhfe1QLsz3QoC9T0e3Qx17ZyncVM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nCe76R3CrDr29Spa/6853q7U3rKBsKkfE4bOZ3zXtrsjeTEpEmNyu5rjpPRsVqXWZ 5kuM6E6gcn2T8g7zYfsagrwoUof17gD0jh88E+6N49pXq+4l2ddmtUAVuVUFFSb3cx EYgxERdsS+foY4xKYjVu4vDQPfs4i3KJG/BYsr4c= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b026453efa31f79ba Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Last Weekend at The Ridge Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Still a nice run Chuck. To bad for the spun bearing -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley To: Jim Norlin Cc: FOT Sent: Sat, Aug 16, 2014 2:24 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Last Weekend at The Ridge Thanks Jim and Patty. Very nice driving, except for my miserable attempt at stopping a spin. m My video shows my hands going a;; over the place -- no wonder I went right. Our lap times behind Charly [Red TR6] were in the 2:09-2:11 time frame. On the lap after the spin I did a 2:07. Just could not figure out how to get around him. Really lousy start by me -- couldn't see the stater till I moved way left and created quite a hole for Charly who did see the flag and got a jump on me. got to learn to "own" the track a little more as I should have moved left directly on his tail after the pass. Once I do some editing I will post my spin -- and the nice catch I make at lap later at the entrance to turn 3. I did spin a rod bearing on lap nine leading to a broken rod. The smoke you see from me is actually oil dropson the header coming from a not quite tight enough fitting for where I plumb the accusump to the oil lines. On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Jim Norlin wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBfq2UeWwME > > Last weekend, Patty ran our Spitfire at The Ridge, outside of Shelton, > WA. This is only the 3rd season that the track has been in operation and > it is a blast. Very challenging with lots of elevation change and some > blind corners. The video has Patty chasing Charly Mitchell and Chuck > Arnold in their TR6's until Chuck spins about mid race. Skip Yocum in a > 240Z is also in the mix. It was his first time at the track and he used > Patty as an instructor for several laps before passing and then mixing it > up with Charly. > > Enjoy _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 16 14:06:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047EA2580972 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:06:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d05.mx.aol.com (omr-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22DF325808F3 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:05:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aaa02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aaa02.mx.aol.com [172.27.1.228]) by omr-d05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 81BA8700000A4 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:06:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-lga10h.mail.aol.com (core-lga10.mail.aol.com [10.76.11.10]) by mtaomg-aaa02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4D8CC38000086 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:06:36 -0400 (EDT) From: REK46@aol.com Full-name: REK46 Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:06:36 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1408219596; bh=t4RoRH+WbtbFCGtxLA3kv2nx7iYmAZHUZAEsgIFtdRA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OZu14fX3mYMSvc5ImXNZX/bmLDF+sFjmuHcOBm2s93tZhVTCgbhNxwgen6H9RtEF4 pmvcmK/+kcSg2Y+uhAQNtusEogl8ufS0a8casle/U4TohszHMlMtgTXUrqnUYZ1uzw E8qnJygOluFD5vdewgT5IklVgSiobRQ2FTRwAoD4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b01e453efb9cc321d Subject: [Fot] rare find - Spitfire bootlid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have a early Spitfire (roundtail) Boot Lid...This is an NOS part,still has orig. Stanpart label and pkg.on it .It is an orig. replacement part from Triumph that I bought in or around 1967 for my Mark III. It is perfect,no rust ,no dents,in orig. factory primer and has the underside framework on it....This would be perfect for someone doing a max restoration with documentations and provenance....I can take pics and offers if you contact me off line...These are not available in catalogs that I have seen,except Rimmers lists one at about $900 or 900 BSP....Rick _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 16 23:24:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271E92580B41 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 23:24:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52EB32580AEF for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 23:24:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id fhJH1o0011GXsucA2hQsJp; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 05:24:52 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-503v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.178.3]) by omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id fhQr1o00A04nC6y8UhQrHk; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 05:24:51 +0000 Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 05:24:51 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Jim Norlin References: <53EF6FE5.902@comcast.net> Thread-Topic: Last Weekend at The Ridge Thread-Index: K+N/9qtjrsRzlTqAjW+cJTOuYbaNBw== s=q20140121; t=1408253092; bh=1Ns68soQREq/qawFdWd7jJR2l5sX+EfUeNNz8b0vRTs=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=K8/KW9friohqIvWhZmccK3fWQVzYBv6s14IN+jNFUBzR/uXyd0LY3mb5/NwhrLKnr vj8xei7JzASwcub9yqSwJncb6+GilGOWh/Eip+wRuV+/ysoHEIgyp9PcgDz/0PN+TY H9fM1ufnIA4QlgcczgO8WTO2i7re9ImhULItBYso1V+/7qH/090OedIQ03CaHZ9H/X KQtJwbPWSt1XYI0i5qGSskjLNfasVI3KsbqcmE9W8YzuFZxgWTQart+Ope7jXSalag MrLlyPZ5D8UgTSFyzlf7maMRMTERbkyVe7nXQ0DYjBy3pRr0UN7S9Ba1NuTEBxU7CC PP93zViZVdfNA== Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Last Weekend at The Ridge Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Jim, Thanks for sharing the vid. Nice drive, Patty. Interesting track. Beautiful setting and layout. It even has a cork screw. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Norlin" To: "Friends of Triumph" , "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 7:51:17 AM Subject: [Fot] Last Weekend at The Ridge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBfq2UeWwME Last weekend, Patty ran our Spitfire at The Ridge, outside of Shelton, WA. This is only the 3rd season that the track has been in operation and it is a blast. Very challenging with lots of elevation change and some blind corners. The video has Patty chasing Charly Mitchell and Chuck Arnold in their TR6's until Chuck spins about mid race. Skip Yocum in a 240Z is also in the mix. It was his first time at the track and he used Patty as an instructor for several laps before passing and then mixing it up with Charly. Enjoy _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 08:36:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EA102580B61 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:36:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm1.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm1.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED6E258079F for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:36:00 -0600 (MDT) s=s2048; t=1408286197; bh=LVDHFFES6Mf1D6HMnK0B8yhZtuImyVlW/We0asPqR7s=; h=Received:Received:Received:X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=nV0jruKX4OO09XgRdfQg5oxwv4hSGbntjthLP95cl7ILQ9N+oj4d8C+Y1w8x8M7a9ZHtHP9cufO0SfUBODh6cbT6fXHjbqfvYzjQGHjkqyQ9/qm21f6+gtHioPkgP1y/g1qiC/8+Elx8y6i3Pr0WelCKrgiChIthNa35lfs3RkBdPS/lTAH38bPQfKTiSM8m/rRH80TcFem/3w3cJM1kAzlOHXH5i15wCy7PcerklLxtPawBdW63KqSVyJOaYA+09oBW2MoMfRBMzgwm5O8WMSu74awm9fjKdrlkavd6r2GerBwGYBWTBH6P+HiwDEjO7JH48NTj47Pv2xotmgAgCQ== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=i7rlRaFY4L9wW74hEbRxPU4TucgPb/djYI07Cp38Ii5lAgToNae++DqsCW4yPyhAZiDU6ZF39KVLFEgnTnjta11fvD1HAzecUo4CsiAahs1Q2NFW80CvDlprltDlvgqKo8vQyp7QLpVTpVSGJZzT22Lt+0MzRJBl1AHcC7o6h38bdCL7+SbmBhYrvx8pN7/2lhZYdRUU/HEtDzCx5Zqgx6MbirpmIjVRx/dVU/Vf+Kkke1mtA8O0LjalfwP6SX9Wi7N3zQAfZNIx1ew1zISJ/z0rvycI8rZ6bsjho8xZBtDTKkEOvIHatojbUodvxrfV+i/VnaH2XpjRhG+Pp9/sQw==; Received: from [216.39.60.165] by nm19.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2014 14:36:37 -0000 Received: from [67.195.23.146] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2014 14:36:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp118.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2014 14:36:37 -0000 5QBTKOyZQ0gU5G9DvxIDenb0ESjSOQBkDlq_0lSBPeZmFfcFSjPuJsO6gZFd iXqJ6Z13vnL4vjpNZy_TXJkiVFWs.SI3CL73vI9shpy_MRLp2uMCerKBMx1U S_uF2TQVyJoZSAvM0RLCrwBCEW2QQm209Oq235ZJyGod5570maA2FOZoAitx JAxTzacI1AbFz0rChcYXVTfxKDk5TAAAuQs7SVQOWVJD2aVW9vsrf5DS6iNq GtSUgWEGHLJF6sXJF7f91mCkeCIMUddal4hyr2kaghyfoEn3oDs1AcL7BFjO Unff.GvR6qcqQC2GmmFzzHUGYEgsn_DmYTWqVC5D59X.M.5OrWsmZFGsoCdi JUK28.Vik5GB_LLBX5i4qLPVnZRmqFhPKPCtiofP3_MJ34ZcIt9VDuyQri0D UNUqejEEwiBSbYZWbQOOrOT78EiXZlrlzkaKCqzI5JtTTGFZcXzXCdhNFdu8 Vd1dF7aLBHrjQUMTGLAn2Cq7XAsMetiuruPsJoA1IFrNv6sFIdkDijIYER4_ W6M0ZPe1kUmXgKmaHW6oG84ov2FN1J2TlQxvUc0PuVRLS4Q-- Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 09:36:36 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: Greg And Alison Blake References: <1606493675.1032537.1408045871267.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <53ED4AC4.6010301@gmail.com> <52CC2918-D97A-4F8F-9E60-031BEDE9095B@austin.rr.com> Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Modern internals in Smith gauges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Greg, I've got a lot of TR3/4 parts I'd like to unload as well - blocks, cranks,etc. Located near Hallett. Larry On 8/14/2014 9:56 PM, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: > Duncan, > > Did I see a post that you have a bunch of TR motors you are looking to off > load? Let me know what you have. I will have additional storage space soon. > > Thanks, > > Greg > >> On Aug 14, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Duncan Charlton > wrote: >> You might also check with Nisonger in NY. They repaired a damaged tach for > me that had already been modified by a previous owner. >> Duncan >> >>> On 8/14/14, 2:51 PM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: >>> Does anyone know of a source to get modern internals in a Smiths tach. I'm >>> trying to get all my instruments back to >>> original in appearance.B >>> jim gB >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel@pobox.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 20:01:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165C42584C04 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:01:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.dieselperformanceparts.com (mail.dieselperformanceparts.com [173.221.146.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4FC258492C for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:00:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DIESEL-SERVER.dppi.local ([fe80::b8f5:2ae1:37b2:f00b]) by DIESEL-SERVER.dppi.local ([fe80::b8f5:2ae1:37b2:f00b%10]) with mapi; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 21:01:31 -0500 From: Diesel Performance Parts - Info To: "'fot@autox.team.net'" Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 21:01:31 -0500 Thread-Topic: MKIII Bonnet & Valance Thread-Index: Ac+6h+AoUfOPT2HsQYG9ehNLhw7ohw== Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: [Fot] MKIII Bonnet & Valance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Evening members, Just bought a 1969-70 Spitfire SCCA racer and need a good steel bonnet and valance to make it "legal" has fiberglass one right now. Would love a GT6 bonnet if possible. I can do body work but am not after a rusty mess, talk to me and thanks!! Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, INC. 411 Allied Drive Nashville, TN 37211 866-455-7788 Phone 615-834-9923 Fax www.dieselperformanceparts.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 20:54:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9AA2584C02 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:54:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from spamkiller.fastbytes.com (spamkiller.fastbytes.com [192.200.141.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041F62584585 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:53:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mercury.fastbytes.com [192.200.141.198] by spamkiller.fastbytes.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.00) id AAD61D00D4; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 21:54:14 -0500 Received: from TimDellVostro [192.200.136.236] by mercury.fastbytes.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-8.22) id AB050574; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 21:55:01 -0500 From: "Tim Murphy" To: Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 21:54:12 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac+6j69yipcF2zQERJ6jQ8A0Xf+5Og== Content-Language: en-us Organization: FastBytesWireless Inc. Subject: [Fot] Test Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Test _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 22:54:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B3B2584C19 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 22:54:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qg0-f54.google.com (mail-qg0-f54.google.com [209.85.192.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF482584A86 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 22:53:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qg0-f54.google.com with SMTP id j5so1324744qga.27 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 21:54:11 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=aOhAp6Dmerrdh/ZUi36acdTWnL/4ZggXKVoLplEm0uk=; b=W91sprspc+jiFIhhAkxMLZK5Ae2IPnxsqo5PrhAl02RQC3XAsFQenIR1IQk3L9B10m 5/zKSSvDn+E7m4pc7IulK+vj2JXpymzthws6LoitykJ2KSCkzmP9EGzDjEHJv9aWgWo1 eYQo36prdmV2+N88oJ9cqf+/N8l6x0OFWmRrFXdGhDkEvkqJbaFMgjKXmGgKiyCE6sjJ Tpp70r5KoSJYiyP+ZfXdddtsKBytDnpRinZF2ZcursHfR8AolULqfB35BCGstZSrqEgE aJKQ+lKG8cO4y3/BQLgNZBDwkW/euCJ0jQsY1mjzW4fyuVc/vt1CviAimyX3boApf4p+ IMJw== x17mr25939596qaw.49.1408337651581; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 21:54:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.86.149 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 21:54:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 23:54:11 -0500 From: Jason Ostrowski To: triumph friends Subject: [Fot] Grattan Wrap Up Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net "All in" were our Triumphs at Grattan. Fabulous weather set the stage for an amazing weekend of racing. FoT had a rich presence with 8 race cars and dozens of other family and Friends. The 3 days packed more race time than most cars could take. Fot drivers and cars = Tony Drews (TR4), Sean Alexander (TR4), Dale Osterle (Spitfire), Michael Moore(TR4), Michael Deweerd (TR4), John Styduhar TR3B), Jason Ostrowski (2 GT6+'s) Everyone's obvious goal to "Never be beaten by equipment" in this weekend would take a car blessed by the racing Gods. We all had a shot at over a dozen sessions. Grattan is very hard on suspension components. There were over 44 cars in Group 2 and 25 in group 8. Tony was the star in Group 2. It was quite possible for him to beaten by Sean or myself but both of us fell victim of terminal problems before our real chance came (Sean; likely a Cracked Head) and (me; Motor time of Death sat. 9:27 am) Great showings by Mike M, Mike D, Dale and John, filled the top 15 spots in most sessions with some awesome Triumph action. Michael Moore gets the FGR pick of the weekend for some stellar consistency and excellent driving on a new track (he finished almost every lap he was given and was clipping off some great lap times all weekend) John had some excellent starts; passing many cars very quickly... but also had a few disappointments with an epic big spin onto the front stretch and a dead car at turn one in just prior to the start of the race. Deweerd also had his share of troubles with couple of spins and a smoking parked car. But hats off to him as he fixed all the problems he encountered and made it all the way to the end of the weekend. The extreme loss of power in my yellow car left me to focus on the green #69 as the lone Triumph in group 8. And after many sleepless nights of prep the entire week before, I was eventually rewarded with a ride that served me very well. But, Brian and I were still working on the car till 2:00 in the morning on Thursday. and then were not able to get it running at all on Friday. It took us half of the day and a dismantling of many major components to figure out that common bit of knowledge that most carburation are electrical. A bad condenser turned out to be our demon. In the end, the redone car was a magical beast of awesome sound. I drove the car faster than I ever have before and moved up from 26th to 10th in the first race, then 10th to 7th in the second race; and in the third race I had my best race ever finishing 3rd overall and 2nd in class. I passed and then was hounded all race by a nemesis cheater 240z and was walking away from a Ferrari 348 Challenge! I couldn't belive it! The Zippy car was unstoppable... until I broke an axle in the feature race on Sunday. Still, I'll take that cost of breakage as I turned a champion best time of all of us by a few seconds ending up with a 1:32.8... by far the fastest time any of us "Vintage Triumph" guys have gone there in years! Brian tried some cool new go pro video angles and we hope to have some highlight videos to share soon. It was a great weekend for all us.Grattan in August is truly an event that is like no other. The always awesome Beady Eyed Wine and Cheese, Friends, and some of the best racing in the Midwest. Hope to see you all there next year! Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 07:00:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD8C2584D74 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 07:00:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f172.google.com (mail-qc0-f172.google.com [209.85.216.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869AF258075B; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 06:59:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id i8so4771219qcq.31 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 06:00:33 -0700 (PDT) h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=isFtd4Lz+wy0VxxJO48EvNUOV3GP6YunlT/0tbqAyIU=; b=oeYytDuq0orysQbihhnWkiOZF5eiv4rbAFBdwQnDRjo4Mc2o2p5+X1ZMoGpl/S7OdA slZ8sS4Vyp9pDhSISlu2N6dH3LS+n2lJfROKpWxCVpILdKoqVvFsgSQ3gbilSXUsZQRP xVbrK6wTSY2OZFIWDZ6yrlIqrRf7riJgETpgGNTZZjwYNF5xY2Hq5O77nDC++C85AJOH 6cK9ytJHNKFemyUf25HKO7PkFKbiv9Vkro1hVpq6rfjdDy5n6iQ5J0ETIZVNqJXCpyV2 cD5UES1h/jN31J1Yyy8jAkON22xgb+kywuplMBf6LyF+fWo0B7vR6BCc/bZwI+yWnN1u Hywg== a32mr8101564qga.39.1408366831649; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 06:00:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Quad3400 (cpe-67-248-12-130.nycap.res.rr.com. [67.248.12.130]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id l7sm27764668qac.42.2014.08.18.06.00.29 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 18 Aug 2014 06:00:30 -0700 (PDT) From: "Clark W. Nicholls" To: , References: <000901cfba8f$b1c178d0$15446a70$@com> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 09:00:26 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac+6j69yipcF2zQERJ6jQ8A0Xf+5OgAVH0+Q Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] Anyone need a straight-port early GT-6 Cylinder head? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone need a straight-port early GT-6 Cylinder head? In my collection since the 1970s. Have the cam to go with it... Clark Clark W. Nicholls 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) www.botchagaloop.net for old racing photos "Reality, it's not what you think." ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4745 / Virus Database: 4007/8057 - Release Date: 08/18/14 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 07:03:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8628D2584DD0 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 07:03:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E72A258450D; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 07:03:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::c167:89f3:ca7b:1966]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::c167:89f3:ca7b:1966%13]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 08:03:58 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: "Clark W. Nicholls" Thread-Topic: [Fot] Anyone need a straight-port early GT-6 Cylinder head? Thread-Index: AQHPuuR9OeABt8lxckKwk04uLBEyApvWU/ah Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 13:03:58 +0000 References: <000901cfba8f$b1c178d0$15446a70$@com>, <001801cfbae4$636113d0$2a233b70$@com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US Cc: "spitfires@autox.team.net" , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Anyone need a straight-port early GT-6 Cylinder head? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net And I have the header to go with that, if anyone needs it. Scott B. "Clark W. Nicholls" wrote: Anyone need a straight-port early GT-6 Cylinder head? In my collection since the 1970s. Have the cam to go with it... Clark Clark W. Nicholls 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) www.botchagaloop.net for old racing photos "Reality, it's not what you think." ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4745 / Virus Database: 4007/8057 - Release Date: 08/18/14 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 08:28:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38EA52584D76 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 08:28:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p01c12o145.mxlogic.net (p01c12o145.mxlogic.net [208.65.145.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C7F2580475 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 08:27:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO p01c12o145.mxlogic.net) by p01c12o145.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.1.0-0) with ESMTP id 59d02f35.2b5c00459940.15225.00-520.43703.p01c12o145.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Mon, 18 Aug 2014 08:28:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] by p01c12o145.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.1.0-0) with SMTP id c8c02f35.0.11848.00-298.34703.p01c12o145.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Mon, 18 Aug 2014 08:24:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::c824:a29e:45a5:b81c]) by ATLPEXCAS01.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 10:23:59 -0400 From: John Hasty To: Jason Ostrowski , triumph friends Thread-Topic: [Fot] Grattan Wrap Up Thread-Index: AQHPuqCFF9nUakzpuUOp9dyYFhhPF5vWayFw Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:23:58 +0000 References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [192.168.123.236] a=VR8QHrWKYhK80xkEBGCjUg==] a=DXt] a=8nJEP1O] a=YlVTAMxIAAAA] a=exyjHOOcXvqa-mWTr6o] a=MVDrLQDD3NUA:10 ] Subject: Re: [Fot] Grattan Wrap Up Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Neat! John H. Hasty | MULLEN HOLLAND & COOPER P.A. Attorney at Law 301 South York Street (zip: 28052) P.O. Box 488 Gastonia, NC 28053-0488 Telephone: 704.864.6751 | Facsimile: 704.861.8394 JHasty@mhc-law.com | www.mhc-law.com -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 12:54 AM To: triumph friends Subject: [Fot] Grattan Wrap Up "All in" were our Triumphs at Grattan. Fabulous weather set the stage for an amazing weekend of racing. FoT had a rich presence with 8 race cars and dozens of other family and Friends. The 3 days packed more race time than most cars could take. Fot drivers and cars = Tony Drews (TR4), Sean Alexander (TR4), Dale Osterle (Spitfire), Michael Moore(TR4), Michael Deweerd (TR4), John Styduhar TR3B), Jason Ostrowski (2 GT6+'s) Everyone's obvious goal to "Never be beaten by equipment" in this weekend would take a car blessed by the racing Gods. We all had a shot at over a dozen sessions. Grattan is very hard on suspension components. There were over 44 cars in Group 2 and 25 in group 8. Tony was the star in Group 2. It was quite possible for him to beaten by Sean or myself but both of us fell victim of terminal problems before our real chance came (Sean; likely a Cracked Head) and (me; Motor time of Death sat. 9:27 am) Great showings by Mike M, Mike D, Dale and John, filled the top 15 spots in most sessions with some awesome Triumph action. Michael Moore gets the FGR pick of the weekend for some stellar consistency and excellent driving on a new track (he finished almost every lap he was given and was clipping off some great lap times all weekend) John had some excellent starts; passing many cars very quickly... but also had a few disappointments with an epic big spin onto the front stretch and a dead car at turn one in just prior to the start of the race. Deweerd also had his share of troubles with couple of spins and a smoking parked car. But hats off to him as he fixed all the problems he encountered and made it all the way to the end of the weekend. The extreme loss of power in my yellow car left me to focus on the green #69 as the lone Triumph in group 8. And after many sleepless nights of prep the entire week before, I was eventually rewarded with a ride that served me very well. But, Brian and I were still working on the car till 2:00 in the morning on Thursday. and then were not able to get it running at all on Friday. It took us half of the day and a dismantling of many major components to figure out that common bit of knowledge that most carburation are electrical. A bad condenser turned out to be our demon. In the end, the redone car was a magical beast of awesome sound. I drove the car faster than I ever have before and moved up from 26th to 10th in the first race, then 10th to 7th in the second race; and in the third race I had my best race ever finishing 3rd overall and 2nd in class. I passed and then was hounded all race by a nemesis cheater 240z and was walking away from a Ferrari 348 Challenge! I couldn't belive it! The Zippy car was unstoppable... until I broke an axle in the feature race on Sunday. Still, I'll take that cost of breakage as I turned a champion best time of all of us by a few seconds ending up with a 1:32.8... by far the fastest time any of us "Vintage Triumph" guys have gone there in years! Brian tried some cool new go pro video angles and we hope to have some highlight videos to share soon. It was a great weekend for all us.Grattan in August is truly an event that is like no other. The always awesome Beady Eyed Wine and Cheese, Friends, and some of the best racing in the Midwest. Hope to see you all there next year! Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 10:53:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360A6258500E for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 10:53:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bl2lp0206.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.206]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5C92580779 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 10:53:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.255.189.16) by BLUPR04MB854.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.255.189.150) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1005.10; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:53:48 +0000 Received: from BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.189.16]) by BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.189.16]) with mapi id 15.00.1010.016; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:53:48 +0000 From: Michael Moore To: Duncan Charlton , "fot@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Fot] Modern internals in Smith gauges Thread-Index: Ac+7BPe7ovMMew35RB61+Q9M5fbOqw== Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:53:47 +0000 References: <1606493675.1032537.1408045871267.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <53ED4AC4.6010301@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [24.165.139.19] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;UriScan:; x-forefront-prvs: 03077579FF x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019005)(6009001)(189002)(38414003)(51704005)(48214007)(13464003)(479174003)(377454003)(24454002)(199003)(20776003)(85852003)(15975445006)(16601075003)(4396001)(99286002)(76176999)(95666004)(54356999)(2656002)(105586002)(92566001)(86362001)(81542001)(80022001)(74316001)(81342001)(76482001)(64706001)(46102001)(66066001)(83072002)(79102001)(77982001)(101416001)(85306004)(15202345003)(106356001)(107886001)(87936001)(33646002)(74502001)(108616004)(50986999)(21056001)(31966008)(76576001)(107046002)(99396002)(74662001)(19580405001)(19580395003)(83322001)(2501001)(24736002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BLUPR04MB854; H:BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:0; LANG:en; Subject: Re: [Fot] Modern internals in Smith gauges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I had my tach converted to electronic by Morris Mince at West Valley Instruments, did a really nice job, and even updated and checked it for free last month. I also went one step further, on his suggestion, and had face re-silkscreened to go to 8k (and redline mark is now at 6k-7k). Looks exactly like original gauge unless you study it closely. I run at 5500 rpm but it nice to not have needle always close to high end of tach. Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Duncan Charlton Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 7:48 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Modern internals in Smith gauges You might also check with Nisonger in NY. They repaired a damaged tach for me that had already been modified by a previous owner. Duncan On 8/14/14, 2:51 PM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: > Does anyone know of a source to get modern internals in a Smiths tach. > I'm trying to get all my instruments back to original in appearance.B > jim gB _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore@mtmcpafirm.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 11:06:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A20D2585002 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 11:06:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D512584FEA for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 11:06:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id gG9X1o0030cQ2SLA1H6vD9; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:06:55 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-208v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.176.218]) by omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id gH4t1o0064j68Km8WH4tpx; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:04:55 +0000 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:04:45 +0000 (UTC) From: toodamnfunky@comcast.net To: Michael Moore References: <1606493675.1032537.1408045871267.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <53ED4AC4.6010301@gmail.com> <05cc000341bc4902b0c31341eda864b0@BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> (Win)/8.0.3_GA_5664) Thread-Topic: [Fot] Modern internals in Smith gauges Thread-Index: Ac+7BPe7ovMMew35RB61+Q9M5fbOq/bb2K9g s=q20140121; t=1408381615; bh=5kHiuHebOqRoWm7CxTa8ztR3nfMZXuirMbxPYpVBy2o=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=Cd2x5s6gIPPhmsR4niQbb76d0UG1PhjSslJ35zvKrv6ZMnFzh7H2NFlIL7sI4Yzw8 u4KsaaaEp+Dl93KTiBImtMVsbqyDHjM32IAzjYB1CkdqsfJP/CTiQhnV6hIAI+RA+1 LMpZhuRHQ9LA8G40ERXxwkEj+CkeyFmnjI0qYcEzC6T2T+LaGAegiMbjOi4ozVPDGq oJv4gunTXBFvcqluEYl7j520B1NuFfYnkIOvK96thnUyKx0QJ6uxELvasJ1eFHhrmN ljXkQwJ5u0itvPzUas11Ct2MRvh+frlzvckoyNrBOYEZH2VVGMA34C5v6s01Swy87e 09cKMyyi/uF/w== Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Modern internals in Smith gauges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mike, Great suggestion, I was wondering what I was going to do about the gauge face. Thanks, jim g ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Moore" To: "Charlton, Duncan" , "fot" Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 10:53:47 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Modern internals in Smith gauges I had my tach converted to electronic by Morris Mince at West Valley Instruments, did a really nice job, and even updated and checked it for free last month. I also went one step further, on his suggestion, and had face re-silkscreened to go to 8k (and redline mark is now at 6k-7k). Looks exactly like original gauge unless you study it closely. I run at 5500 rpm but it nice to not have needle always close to high end of tach. Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 B ext 103 Fax: B B B B 814-864-7383 -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Duncan Charlton Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 7:48 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Modern internals in Smith gauges You might also check with Nisonger in NY. B They repaired a damaged tach for me that had already been modified by a previous owner. Duncan On 8/14/14, 2:51 PM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: > Does anyone know of a source to get modern internals in a Smiths tach. > I'm trying to get all my instruments back to original in appearance.B > jim gB _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore@mtmcpafirm.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 11:34:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD4C2584FAC for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 11:34:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f54.google.com (mail-oa0-f54.google.com [209.85.219.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 059F92580750 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 11:32:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id n16so4344462oag.27 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 10:32:58 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=r5g+xjYh5/BVhBrtpdkmPL8p28jHxTXiCcxjmSrsOlI=; b=uj6DrIqyPF04Zvo5Sde4+a5XuqO5bMTQs6Vl9XqXk7DcFfXxRB79JoKBayZ6qLOFQs imJmnn4ei7KZ9xie+QbYk6WKBMYSTzvyCNxEuxZyyDoJcuQZ1Qm+dMfn8H5/V5/3K0tk /uq8FDAyBG3KsxYXhI1ODsI9Q5K2R/crvWbSYkAqnURIgoWOsxsN0HVZHV1IEV9M5cre wXs1aIR7Yi2/DP4cGAQMHqRJH9xTluH7D3cXCk6tzCLd6Wja6PxEAHKqXWwncTxA/F5D ec+5SmlFElOPq5X4GLX3qeqi0QVjBEeWgJ5NNG6WT8Q90Imy0qo1MWaHqB7Yc+BIYTEA HzMA== u18mr8992646oeo.68.1408383178664; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 10:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Duncans-MacBook-Pro.local (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fu14sm25050525oeb.9.2014.08.18.10.32.57 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 18 Aug 2014 10:32:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 12:32:56 -0500 From: Duncan Charlton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 CC: fot References: <1606493675.1032537.1408045871267.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <53ED4AC4.6010301@gmail.com> <05cc000341bc4902b0c31341eda864b0@BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> <708538101.2954659.1408381485419.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] Modern internals in Smith gauges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A friend silkscreened the face of his voltage meter with the Lucas lion logo along with a quote attributed to Joseph Lucas, "A gentleman does not go motoring about after dark." Duncan On 8/18/14, 12:04 PM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: > Mike, > Great suggestion, I was wondering what I was going to do about the > gauge face. > Thanks, > jim g > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From: *"Michael Moore" > *To: *"Charlton, Duncan" , "fot" > > *Sent: *Monday, August 18, 2014 10:53:47 AM > *Subject: *Re: [Fot] Modern internals in Smith gauges > > I had my tach converted to electronic by Morris Mince at West Valley > Instruments, did a really nice job, and even updated and checked it > for free > last month. > > I also went one step further, on his suggestion, and had face > re-silkscreened > to go to 8k (and redline mark is now at 6k-7k). Looks exactly like > original > gauge unless you study it closely. I run at 5500 rpm but it nice to > not have > needle always close to high end of tach. > > Thanks > Mike > > Michael T. Moore, CPA > 2007 West 32nd Street > Erie, PA 16508 > > Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 > Fax: 814-864-7383 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Duncan Charlton > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 7:48 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Modern internals in Smith gauges > > You might also check with Nisonger in NY. They repaired a damaged > tach for me > that had already been modified by a previous owner. > > Duncan > > On 8/14/14, 2:51 PM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: > > Does anyone know of a source to get modern internals in a Smiths tach. > > I'm trying to get all my instruments back to original in appearance.B > > jim gB _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore@mtmcpafirm.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 13:52:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D60258503E for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 13:52:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA5925844AF for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 13:52:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::c167:89f3:ca7b:1966]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::c167:89f3:ca7b:1966%13]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:52:41 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: FOT Thread-Topic: Nomination Thread-Index: Ac+7HffYsgQoFElsTh640wekP+r+xQ== Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:52:40 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Subject: [Fot] Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello, This weekend at the Midwestern Council event at Road America, I met Dave and Alex Amys, a father and son GT6 racing team. They have a lovely red 1970 GT6 street car which they used in the HPDE event on Saturday and which they are slowly converting into a full race car. They'd love to have the guidance of the group as they go through this process. Can I have a second? Scott B. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 14:07:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D662584FE8 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:07:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D7525848F0 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:06:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.71]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id gK6s1o0061Y3wxoABL7b7p; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 20:07:35 +0000 Received: from [10.178.183.88] ([70.194.111.2]) by omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id gL7L1o00K039FB28bL7Qhk; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 20:07:33 +0000 References: <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B5C059B@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> From: Brian Garcia Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:07:19 -0500 To: "Barr, Scott" s=q20140121; t=1408392455; bh=+obaj1LVkzmhxTC7nFrn4OiI9nEfd1vSimUiBW9It14=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=pMuJWn3wZnFuBWDtKYx1jcznULUzJzqP7hvGkzWDbpNWedZv6cRwi1HjVRkAaOQfI 2CIZkMsZbM1Jx4dAca9WSggLczv3xjcFnb4hrYbGDI+IgU0b8oDKOsBN21HQUBS3SG 9RaolntHF+XOcYRg1GCYKzBp7zhB8jA5uVe1dQ+4T9yVCgO+BpH9rpyTfVRY7L72Pu JNwBdOQ0AKB73ywA0jlF9VMysgpvaP+E/WmKwtRCMjxuloV25cQdL4VVonPuxxNJPn AjucKCtpNuMcfJJnToANYCz+RPsljfxWzk4GPuXMudpDmRBzHZyF7brzca3/VbBA7C ZLbn10VB9enPA== Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Midwestern Council and a GT6? Second! Brian Garcia Friendly Ghost Racing > On Aug 18, 2014, at 2:52 PM, "Barr, Scott" wrote: > > Hello, > > This weekend at the Midwestern Council event at Road America, I met Dave and > Alex Amys, a father and son GT6 racing team. They have a lovely red 1970 GT6 > street car which they used in the HPDE event on Saturday and which they are > slowly converting into a full race car. They'd love to have the guidance of > the group as they go through this process. > > Can I have a second? > > > Scott B. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cudapilot@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 14:08:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746352585031 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:08:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894E92584908 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:08:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::c167:89f3:ca7b:1966]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::c167:89f3:ca7b:1966%13]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:09:22 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: 'Brian Garcia' Thread-Topic: [BULK] Re: [Fot] Nomination Thread-Index: Ac+7HffYsgQoFElsTh640wekP+r+xQAK/SKAAAp1R8A= Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 20:09:21 +0000 References: <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B5C059B@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Cc: FOT , "'damys@charter.net'" , "'ajamys@yahoo.com'" Subject: Re: [Fot] [BULK] Re: Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I knew we'd hear from the Friendly Ghost Racing camp first! Scott (PS, nice write-up from Mr. Levy on the Cheetah front) -----Original Message----- From: Brian Garcia [mailto:cudapilot@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 3:07 PM To: Barr, Scott Cc: FOT Subject: [BULK] Re: [Fot] Nomination Importance: Low Midwestern Council and a GT6? Second! Brian Garcia Friendly Ghost Racing > On Aug 18, 2014, at 2:52 PM, "Barr, Scott" wrote: > > Hello, > > This weekend at the Midwestern Council event at Road America, I met > Dave and Alex Amys, a father and son GT6 racing team. They have a > lovely red 1970 GT6 street car which they used in the HPDE event on > Saturday and which they are slowly converting into a full race car. > They'd love to have the guidance of the group as they go through this process. > > Can I have a second? > > > Scott B. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cudapilot@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 14:26:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD9C258504D for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:26:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C5A2584477 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:25:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::c167:89f3:ca7b:1966]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::c167:89f3:ca7b:1966%13]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:26:38 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: FOT Thread-Topic: EGT Probes? Thread-Index: Ac+7IrYOA1eK0cPuQhm4vYVEzW+7eA== Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 20:26:37 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Subject: [Fot] EGT Probes? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net So if my EGT stops working or works only intermittently, is it likely that I need new probes? (I did check to see that the connections are still...connected) The tailpipe color looks good (a nice dove grey), but I'm getting no reading on one side of the gauge and a low reading on the other side. Scott B. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 14:36:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782FA258505B for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:36:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy2-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy2-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.18.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id AFBA72584477 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:36:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 29915 invoked by uid 0); 18 Aug 2014 20:37:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw4) (10.0.90.85) by gproxy2.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 18 Aug 2014 20:37:22 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw4 with id gSdF1o00z1NzpT901SdJuX; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 20:37:20 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=nu1RuNnQI_YA:10 a=yKqyAkVeGwwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=xb20TFna_T6kr4vsNLEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=54423 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XJTg5-00077S-4R; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:37:17 -0600 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:37:12 -0500 To: "Barr, Scott" ,FOT From: Tony Drews y-law.com> References: <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B5C0725@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT Probes? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, that's the normal failure mechanism for the EGT gauge. I'm on my 2nd set of probes. Tony Drews At 03:26 PM 8/18/2014, Barr, Scott wrote: >So if my EGT stops working or works only intermittently, is it likely that I >need new probes? (I did check to see that the connections are >still...connected) The tailpipe color looks good (a nice dove grey), but I'm >getting no reading on one side of the gauge and a low reading on the other >side. > >Scott B. >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 14:38:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1401A2585067 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:38:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A2B2584FE8 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:37:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::c167:89f3:ca7b:1966]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::c167:89f3:ca7b:1966%13]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:38:35 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: 'Tony Drews' , FOT Thread-Topic: [Fot] EGT Probes? Thread-Index: Ac+7IrYOA1eK0cPuQhm4vYVEzW+7eAAAYKvrAAADnSA= Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 20:38:34 +0000 References: <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B5C0725@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <20140818203725.B4B7839265F@barracuda.mccarty-law.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT Probes? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That's what I've been thinking. Do the probes foul, or do the wires just break? I've been told the wires are a little fragile. Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: Tony Drews [mailto:tony@tonydrews.com] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 3:37 PM To: Barr, Scott; FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT Probes? Yes, that's the normal failure mechanism for the EGT gauge. I'm on my 2nd set of probes. Tony Drews At 03:26 PM 8/18/2014, Barr, Scott wrote: >So if my EGT stops working or works only intermittently, is it likely >that I need new probes? (I did check to see that the connections are >still...connected) The tailpipe color looks good (a nice dove grey), >but I'm getting no reading on one side of the gauge and a low reading >on the other side. > >Scott B. >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 14:47:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7167A2585047 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:47:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy6-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy6-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.39.168]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 20835258448B for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:47:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 17032 invoked by uid 0); 18 Aug 2014 20:47:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by gproxy6.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 18 Aug 2014 20:47:44 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw2 with id gLne1o00r1NzpT901LnhdB; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:47:43 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=nu1RuNnQI_YA:10 a=yKqyAkVeGwwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=A9li0_WeYeoPluAutYcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=54527 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XJTq7-00011n-IX; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:47:39 -0600 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:47:34 -0500 To: "Barr, Scott" ,FOT From: Tony Drews y-law.com> References: <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B5C0725@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <20140818203725.B4B7839265F@barracuda.mccarty-law.com> <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B5C07A8@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT Probes? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I get the impression that the thermocouple fails after being at 1400 degrees repeatedly, but I honestly don't know what inside fails - just that they need to be replaced when the reading is 0 degrees. Tony At 03:38 PM 8/18/2014, Barr, Scott wrote: >That's what I've been thinking. Do the probes foul, or do the wires >just break? I've been told the wires are a little fragile. > >Scott B. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Tony Drews [mailto:tony@tonydrews.com] >Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 3:37 PM >To: Barr, Scott; FOT >Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT Probes? > >Yes, that's the normal failure mechanism for the EGT gauge. I'm on >my 2nd set of probes. > >Tony Drews > >At 03:26 PM 8/18/2014, Barr, Scott wrote: > >So if my EGT stops working or works only intermittently, is it likely > >that I need new probes? (I did check to see that the connections are > >still...connected) The tailpipe color looks good (a nice dove grey), > >but I'm getting no reading on one side of the gauge and a low reading > >on the other side. > > > >Scott B. > >_______________________________________________ > >fot@autox.team.net > > > >http://www.fot-racing.com > > > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >Unsubscribe/Manage: > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 15:19:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB6E258503D for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:19:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64EA62580B12 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:19:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20140818212029.FLCP9941.mta21.charter.net@imp11>; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:20:29 -0400 Received: from mtaout002.msg.strl.va.charter.net ([68.114.190.27]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id gMLV1o0060buw5Q05MLVkW; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:20:29 -0400 Received: from impout001 ([68.114.189.16]) by mtaout002.msg.strl.va.charter.net (InterMail vM.9.00.010.00 201-2473-137) with ESMTP id <20140818212029.ZCMU16771.mtaout002.msg.strl.va.charter.net@impout001>; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:20:29 -0500 Received: from [10.168.71.224] ([70.197.18.26]) by impout001 with charter.net id gMLT1o00K0ZlAVS01MLU8f; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:20:29 -0500 a=CGTUefqcX2JfEmhlS6faWg==:117 a=CGTUefqcX2JfEmhlS6faWg==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=nu1RuNnQI_YA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=cfPs5Fa8n6N1M1X6-ygA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 References: <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B5C0725@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <20140818203706.0C8E0258504B@autox.team.net> From: Jerry Barr Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:20:27 -0700 To: Tony Drews Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT Probes? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Leaded gas kills EGT probes Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 18, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > > Yes, that's the normal failure mechanism for the EGT gauge. I'm on my 2nd set of probes. > > Tony Drews > > At 03:26 PM 8/18/2014, Barr, Scott wrote: >> So if my EGT stops working or works only intermittently, is it likely that I >> need new probes? (I did check to see that the connections are >> still...connected) The tailpipe color looks good (a nice dove grey), but I'm >> getting no reading on one side of the gauge and a low reading on the other >> side. >> >> Scott B. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerrybarr@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 15:27:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D1D258509E for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:27:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB29E258505E for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:27:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20140818212823.JEPE6769.mta31.charter.net@imp11>; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:28:23 -0400 Received: from mtaout003.msg.strl.va.charter.net ([68.114.190.28]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id gMUP1o00B0dCcRg05MUPMN; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:28:23 -0400 Received: from impout002 ([68.114.189.17]) by mtaout003.msg.strl.va.charter.net (InterMail vM.9.00.010.00 201-2473-137) with ESMTP id <20140818212823.BVQB3191.mtaout003.msg.strl.va.charter.net@impout002>; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:28:23 -0500 Received: from [10.168.71.224] ([70.197.18.26]) by impout002 with charter.net id gMUM1o00J0ZlAVS01MUNtc; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:28:23 -0500 a=CGTUefqcX2JfEmhlS6faWg==:117 a=CGTUefqcX2JfEmhlS6faWg==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=nu1RuNnQI_YA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=wPnmcZxmnJTPzkEmrqUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 References: <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B5C0725@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <20140818203706.0C8E0258504B@autox.team.net> <909715D8-A12F-4929-9ED4-E8F4F9A7F3B1@charter.net> From: Jerry Barr Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:28:20 -0700 To: Tony Drews Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT Probes? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry my bad, I am sitting poolside in Phoenix and was not thinking clearly. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 18, 2014, at 2:20 PM, Jerry Barr wrote: > > Leaded gas kills EGT probes > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 18, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Tony Drews wrote: >> >> Yes, that's the normal failure mechanism for the EGT gauge. I'm on my 2nd > set of probes. >> >> Tony Drews >> >> At 03:26 PM 8/18/2014, Barr, Scott wrote: >>> So if my EGT stops working or works only intermittently, is it likely that > I >>> need new probes? (I did check to see that the connections are >>> still...connected) The tailpipe color looks good (a nice dove grey), but > I'm >>> getting no reading on one side of the gauge and a low reading on the other >>> side. >>> >>> Scott B. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerrybarr@charter.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerrybarr@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 15:32:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61E425850FD for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:32:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p02c12o142.mxlogic.net (p02c12o142.mxlogic.net [208.65.145.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A3C2585085 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:32:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO p02c12o142.mxlogic.net) by p02c12o142.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.1.0-0) with ESMTP id df072f35.2b019fa18940.9065.00-588.25893.p02c12o142.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:32:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] by p02c12o142.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.1.0-0) with SMTP id 5d072f35.0.8703.00-395.25251.p02c12o142.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:32:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::c824:a29e:45a5:b81c]) by ATLPEXCAS01.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:32:00 -0400 From: John Hasty To: "Barr, Scott" Thread-Topic: [Fot] EGT Probes? Thread-Index: AQHPuyvX+knggMRJMkCiUYwAdjYVsg== Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 21:31:59 +0000 References: <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B5C0725@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US a=VR8QHrWKYhK80xkEBGCjUg==] a=DXt] a=xqWC_Br] a=MJIo3LPEAAAA:] a=Ea7EVKYvFTlqBJfwSLUA] a] Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT Probes? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I never had a problem on the Yamaha, but always trouble on the 3. Just look at the plugs now. Darn thing is much faster than I can drive it anyhow! Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 18, 2014, at 4:27 PM, "Barr, Scott" wrote: > > So if my EGT stops working or works only intermittently, is it likely that I > need new probes? (I did check to see that the connections are > still...connected) The tailpipe color looks good (a nice dove grey), but I'm > getting no reading on one side of the gauge and a low reading on the other > side. > > Scott B. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 15:38:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57022585116 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:38:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p02c12o141.mxlogic.net (p02c12o141.mxlogic.net [208.65.145.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA632585097 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:37:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO p02c12o141.mxlogic.net) by p02c12o141.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.1.0-0) with ESMTP id b5272f35.2b2fea449940.109424.00-594.317227.p02c12o141.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:38:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] by p02c12o141.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.1.0-0) with SMTP id 83272f35.0.108952.00-377.316341.p02c12o141.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:38:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::c824:a29e:45a5:b81c]) by ATLPEXCAS03.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0181.006; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:37:49 -0400 From: John Hasty To: Jerry Barr Thread-Topic: [Fot] EGT Probes? Thread-Index: Ac+7IrYOA1eK0cPuQhm4vYVEzW+7eAAB5jFkAAijSwD//7+Xrg== Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 21:37:48 +0000 References: <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B5C0725@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <20140818203706.0C8E0258504B@autox.team.net> <909715D8-A12F-4929-9ED4-E8F4F9A7F3B1@charter.net>, <6C3F4094-77E9-493F-8996-A7DAFEE2E345@charter.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US a=VR8QHrWKYhK80xkEBGCjUg==] a=DXt] a=xqWC_Br] a=hOpmn2quAAAA:] a=KZA] a=] a=Z6qn] Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT Probes? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net August, Phoenix ? Where else would you be? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 18, 2014, at 5:28 PM, "Jerry Barr" wrote: > > Sorry my bad, I am sitting poolside in Phoenix and was not thinking clearly. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 18, 2014, at 2:20 PM, Jerry Barr wrote: >> >> Leaded gas kills EGT probes >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 18, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Tony Drews wrote: >>> >>> Yes, that's the normal failure mechanism for the EGT gauge. I'm on my 2nd >> set of probes. >>> >>> Tony Drews >>> >>> At 03:26 PM 8/18/2014, Barr, Scott wrote: >>>> So if my EGT stops working or works only intermittently, is it likely > that >> I >>>> need new probes? (I did check to see that the connections are >>>> still...connected) The tailpipe color looks good (a nice dove grey), but >> I'm >>>> getting no reading on one side of the gauge and a low reading on the > other >>>> side. >>>> >>>> Scott B. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerrybarr@charter.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerrybarr@charter.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 16:12:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448AB2585068 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:12:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm7.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm7.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.197]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902FD2584455 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:12:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.175] by nm19.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Aug 2014 22:13:05 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.244] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Aug 2014 22:13:05 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Aug 2014 22:13:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 56881 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Aug 2014 22:13:05 -0000 s=s1024; t=1408399985; bh=PR1SsDYJ3XeqDCJTt4Iux7gidvfaHg01EyzphWENqIA=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zh19gQ7RDnozyDmj90xy+BIu2nr7i0YcboH8W2HeCIzlBxNREavE4eOwI5rdPLuMPKKn1GayPNAjceus6Us7tE7GlAR2drtV7HkVAMS8sOSAC6gVXEncnRx2tJgIPOUegCftLwGrkkEIIhXh+qVIFQ7ye4owt5Di+bKzKL57J/Q= 0XysWp0ZVtHLKDS1y.IzmpaR087msCLVVCVsByf2fYDUWkJkTqS5hBP8pnHI DdXNUZ_11F8pfqmZkOsiFGGrllxDR_FoCW1GliflZkGmM6YuccB1.CtOmc.2 Wpbk98NR7B9p1ozFTpd_c9xY71B3_CbPi_iF8DuQgEIUyVFUUGdExBKOxY.4 ZbdCJ.CRQqS9ZG_bZz42SCSG6QmiGS9WjUL2DYVlrewgeV947jUC596Zg8b6 76PuyCqL5dhj8E6VhlGm3YF_OsBJTqwZ_fjJ41otwgHXdB8dcdq11vDc3oze cTpiF48_2arDaTQzkCjfpqbwdp.GJ3bu_YzeHTEIg1XLBGH7ooPVNGMsZ6l0 qKc0eTKjo58vyztQaL5tMr9qsFa1xclbq813cnfPOl14QkaKHuj30p3FXlT5 ialx8enA.5O0svcclDwq3B1_22AdiWf7bXuIjsJuZCrx__jqKZefeDeuhA4X fhfqeJsaW9rFuolzLpPX1Vzq8nMWNo4F5Z.L1xsHDaHpcLfz9jDDEa0TbY73 D0Q9_DrPv8CE.6waZajxKhBksoLowkGONuTWnZaixq8km1xZfZi97Je9zx5X yJ9HMrwee31RNn2Cc Received: from [24.159.236.186] by web185302.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:13:05 PDT QXMgeW91IGxpa2VseSBrbm93IGEgdGhlcm1vY291cGxlIGlzIGp1c3QgdHdvIGRpc3NpbWlsYXItbWV0YWwgd2lyZXMgd2VsZGVkIHRvZ2V0aGVyIGF0IHRoZSB0aXAuIFRoZXkgYXJlIG1hZGUgdGlueSBmb3IgcXVpY2sgdGhlcm1hbCByZXNwb25zZSBhbmQgbm90IG11Y2ggY2FuIHN1cnZpdmUgMTQwMCBkZWdyZWVzIG9mIGNvcnJvc2l2ZSBnYXNlcyBmb3IgZXh0ZW5kZWQgcGVyaW9kcy4gSSdkIGd1ZXNzIHRoZSB0aXBzIGNvcnJvZGUgYW5kIGdvIG9wZW4gb3IgcmVzaXN0aXZlLiBJZiB5b3UgZ2l2ZSBtZSABMAEBAQE- References: <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B5C0725@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <20140818203725.B4B7839265F@barracuda.mccarty-law.com> <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B5C07A8@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:13:05 -0700 From: Gary Schneider To: "Barr, Scott" , 'Tony Drews' , FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT Probes? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net As you likely know a thermocouple is just two dissimilar-metal wires welded together at the tip. They are made tiny for quick thermal response and not much can survive 1400 degrees of corrosive gases for extended periods. I'd guess the tips corrode and go open or resistive. If you give me a failed one sometime I'd be interested in taking it apart and making some comparative measurements. I believe the EGTs are all Type K and I can compare to temperature references we have at work for calibration. We have microscopes with cameras too. Gary >________________________________ > From: "Barr, Scott" >To: 'Tony Drews' ; FOT >Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 3:38 PM >Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT Probes? > > >That's what I've been thinking. Do the probes foul, or do the wires just >break? I've been told the wires are a little fragile. > >Scott B. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Tony Drews [mailto:tony@tonydrews.com] >Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 3:37 PM >To: Barr, Scott; FOT >Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT Probes? > >Yes, that's the normal failure mechanism for the EGT gauge. I'm on my 2nd set >of probes. > >Tony Drews > >At 03:26 PM 8/18/2014, Barr, Scott wrote: >>So if my EGT stops working or works only intermittently, is it likely >>that I need new probes? (I did check to see that the connections are >>still...connected) The tailpipe color looks good (a nice dove grey), >>but I'm getting no reading on one side of the gauge and a low reading >>on the other side. >> >>Scott B. >>_______________________________________________ >>fot@autox.team.net >> >>http://www.fot-racing.com >> >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/garygret@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 16:15:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92EBF258506A for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:15:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE807258503D for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:15:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::c167:89f3:ca7b:1966]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::c167:89f3:ca7b:1966%13]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:15:47 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: 'Gary Schneider' , 'Tony Drews' , FOT Thread-Topic: [Fot] EGT Probes? Thread-Index: Ac+7IrYOA1eK0cPuQhm4vYVEzW+7eAAAYKvrAAADnSAADc2+gAAKcgtg Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 22:15:47 +0000 References: <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B5C0725@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <20140818203725.B4B7839265F@barracuda.mccarty-law.com> <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B5C07A8@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <1408399985.34141.YahooMailNeo@web185302.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT Probes? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Right - naturally I knew that. I mean, who doesn't, right? ;-) I'll pull the old ones out and replace them and send or bring the new ones to you to play with. Scott From: Gary Schneider [mailto:garygret@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 5:13 PM To: Barr, Scott; 'Tony Drews'; FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT Probes? As you likely know a thermocouple is just two dissimilar-metal wires welded together at the tip. They are made tiny for quick thermal response and not much can survive 1400 degrees of corrosive gases for extended periods. I'd guess the tips corrode and go open or resistive. If you give me a failed one sometime I'd be interested in taking it apart and making some comparative measurements. I believe the EGTs are all Type K and I can compare to temperature references we have at work for calibration. We have microscopes with cameras too. Gary ________________________________ Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT Probes? That's what I've been thinking. Do the probes foul, or do the wires just break? I've been told the wires are a little fragile. Scott B. -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 3:37 PM To: Barr, Scott; FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT Probes? Yes, that's the normal failure mechanism for the EGT gauge. I'm on my 2nd set of probes. Tony Drews At 03:26 PM 8/18/2014, Barr, Scott wrote: >So if my EGT stops working or works only intermittently, is it likely >that I need new probes? (I did check to see that the connections are >still...connected) The tailpipe color looks good (a nice dove grey), >but I'm getting no reading on one side of the gauge and a low reading >on the other side. > >Scott B. >_______________________________________________ > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/garygret@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 16:19:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44AA72585079 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:19:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m04.mx.aol.com (omr-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3AB02585045 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:18:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mae01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mae01.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.143]) by omr-m04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 92A627000009E; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 18:19:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dtd005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dtd005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.163.145]) by mtaomg-mae01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 44CE938000089; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 18:19:02 -0400 (EDT) References: <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B5C0725@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <20140818203725.B4B7839265F@barracuda.mccarty-law.com> <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B5C07A8@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <1408399985.34141.YahooMailNeo@web185302.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B5C0CA3@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> To: sbarr@McCarty-Law.com, garygret@sbcglobal.net, tony@tonydrews.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Bruce Lapierre Received: from 198.14.215.15 by webmail-d235.sysops.aol.com (149.174.160.240) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 18 Aug 2014 18:19:01 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 18:19:02 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1408400342; bh=YVYruQaj2Guj4DArAwizY2VYyQC2urTs+kSKPv+/RCo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Exr96Lo+xSok4klL+Hty6ahZHBpR1SlsMUDjJo2iLCgPimn6gl/AbXMZN76DCx2P+ yWRii2T7E9XHTXe3sacI2qCe3amRRDwiy85QnFpSOC7WaoLMezse5ZV8sEBLEhoBOI HxvuT31AnFTflOTs6afxoUefE68b8M/ALpfuP++o= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afe8f53f27bd63ddf Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT Probes? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net love the reply - - - - I thought everybody knew that -----Original Message----- From: Barr, Scott To: 'Gary Schneider' ; 'Tony Drews' ; FOT Sent: Mon, Aug 18, 2014 6:15 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT Probes? Right - naturally I knew that. I mean, who doesn't, right? ;-) I'll pull the old ones out and replace them and send or bring the new ones to you to play with. Scott From: Gary Schneider [mailto:garygret@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 5:13 PM To: Barr, Scott; 'Tony Drews'; FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT Probes? As you likely know a thermocouple is just two dissimilar-metal wires welded together at the tip. They are made tiny for quick thermal response and not much can survive 1400 degrees of corrosive gases for extended periods. I'd guess the tips corrode and go open or resistive. If you give me a failed one sometime I'd be interested in taking it apart and making some comparative measurements. I believe the EGTs are all Type K and I can compare to temperature references we have at work for calibration. We have microscopes with cameras too. Gary ________________________________ From: "Barr, Scott" To: 'Tony Drews' Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT Probes? That's what I've been thinking. Do the probes foul, or do the wires just break? I've been told the wires are a little fragile. Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: Tony Drews Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 3:37 PM To: Barr, Scott; FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] EGT Probes? Yes, that's the normal failure mechanism for the EGT gauge. I'm on my 2nd set of probes. Tony Drews At 03:26 PM 8/18/2014, Barr, Scott wrote: >So if my EGT stops working or works only intermittently, is it likely >that I need new probes? (I did check to see that the connections are >still...connected) The tailpipe color looks good (a nice dove grey), >but I'm getting no reading on one side of the gauge and a low reading >on the other side. > >Scott B. >_______________________________________________ > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/garygret@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 17:12:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969A3258513F for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:12:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B09325803B2 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:12:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E2E2C016B for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:12:57 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:12:54 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: FOT References: <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B5C059B@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net They have been added. Don't know if it affects many of you, but I hope to have the 6pack list back on the air tonight. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 19 07:46:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B970B2585255 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 07:46:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.dieselperformanceparts.com (mail.dieselperformanceparts.com [173.221.146.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5ECF25845A5 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 07:46:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DIESEL-SERVER.dppi.local ([fe80::b8f5:2ae1:37b2:f00b]) by DIESEL-SERVER.dppi.local ([fe80::b8f5:2ae1:37b2:f00b%10]) with mapi; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 08:46:55 -0500 From: Diesel Performance Parts - Info To: "'fot@autox.team.net'" Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 08:46:54 -0500 Thread-Topic: AMB Transponder Thread-Index: Ac+7s91t4iFn4rUkQpqb0Fo2U7yrTw== Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: [Fot] AMB Transponder Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Morning Members, Does anyone have an extra AMB transponder they need to dispose of. Prefer the hard wired type but I am open to what can be had at a fair price. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, INC. 411 Allied Drive Nashville, TN 37211 866-455-7788 Phone 615-834-9923 Fax www.dieselperformanceparts.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 19 10:02:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A3562584DE2 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:02:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m09.mx.aol.com (omr-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6EAB2580798 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:01:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-aai01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-aai01.mx.aol.com [172.27.2.97]) by omr-m09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1D05C702D18B3 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 12:02:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-aai01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 8F57E38000093 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 12:02:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 11:02:16 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1408464148; bh=OJ4AZc5pliOD/U9tEcT0drGrF826edM7qJPWWbi9K2I=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=voDpj0VGOHWrIOSXDPRoYtK5MYrwRY3h0yMAuxgSRr5n1H2ILbkxR35isLSAgp4x1 E9NRDQrSgzs4+ss2dxOhVjqPpw6oo/UWdcALLOg4bv4ngjtFAavnApeHMBUpIbIapJ tCQJtIWeRomfdtskVILhQnbr8TdodX+PJjKgcINs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b026153f37511082c Subject: [Fot] John Clancy's "Triumph at Nurburgring" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT, Last call on DVD. I have interest expressed in four of the DVDs with one check having arrived. It would likely work best if John could send at least 10 pieces. And this would be a good time to order his other titles at a lower cost. If all goes well on Johns schedule, he will be joining us at Summit Point. Plans are being made for him to do his magic with his camera for the Kastner Cup. Supporting John and his efforts are a good thing. Regards, Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 19 12:37:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38132584E39 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 12:37:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m07.mx.aol.com (omr-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1672725845AD for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 12:36:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mba02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mba02.mx.aol.com [172.26.133.112]) by omr-m07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 89D0C70000090 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:37:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-lga03a.mail.aol.com (core-lga03.mail.aol.com [10.76.11.3]) by mtaomg-mba02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 5430538000086 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:37:35 -0400 (EDT) From: REK46@aol.com Full-name: REK46 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:37:35 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1408473455; bh=cnOljdBM4s+vRXUoxapyObUC/M4oaI/6QohwgCjMVd4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qurS829D4F4v9IY4r86UH8j22mluEiaCnrZmrAZIakmnXA55VL2/WlLe+lsPTlZkA JHLqHYQHrRifbj98l5Ma6VsggUEBYzPRd80BbMowS9mZaVc2nqaVtFGoJi5rRtIKEd ajn7aJThpDfZscSj/ML4FAiBA9aNYD5ZtqnRJcrM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a857053f3996f6cf9 Subject: [Fot] Rare Find.....Spitfire rear bootlid...NOS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net While cleaning out my body parts storeage area,I found this treasure behind all the fiberglass stuff...It is a brand new original Stanpart replacement part #575787 bootlid,with re-inf.bracket #806831...It is in original primer from Triumph and has the Stanpart label still on it...It came from a dealer back in the 60's...If someone is doing a Major Pro Restoration ,this would be a perfect addition,and has the provenance too...There is no rust or defects, like new except for surface dust.It has always been stored indoors...I could not find these listed anywhere in my catalogs,but did see an NOS one from The Roadster Factory,in 2009, for $999...I'm open to serious offers...Contact me off-list at _rek46@aol.com_ (mailto:rek46@aol.com) for pics or info..... Rick _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 19 12:44:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A83258540E for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 12:44:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m05.mx.aol.com (omr-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D3C2584E19 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 12:44:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aag01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aag01.mx.aol.com [172.26.126.79]) by omr-m05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 83D28702BBD98 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:44:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-lga03a.mail.aol.com (core-lga03.mail.aol.com [10.76.11.3]) by mtaomg-aag01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 9F8563800008A for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:44:43 -0400 (EDT) From: REK46@aol.com Full-name: REK46 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:44:43 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1408473884; bh=dusnPp+PKwK/YBiWamPP0AYWpwc2PoAFF3LX/wmlqpI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ePZrxVc3W0jGDyC6zzxSOMstR7mprXBUz/GvvdjVmUmBxLicQN3GONDJ8qza+ktnQ s1Fr0ipKI2U6WD6F5zeMjvPucRhtS9slOIu/SFuYeIoTt+zqVnOXRWFaUtRDo3TDNY k9jGx7PJNNCI6Q1tesnwjpOe54iFBMbvA+WZnRJk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a7e4f53f39b1b0685 Subject: [Fot] Front valence find Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Aside from the bootlid find, I also found a NOS(almost) front valence for Mk. I,II,III Spitfire. It is in Trinumph "Stanpart" primer yet and shows part #811676 on it. The reason it is 'almost' NOS is that someone tried out a bit of spray paint on the frt side with a metallic brown paint,kind of translucent and not very thorough and was never installed. The paint looks like it would sand off very easily,maybe evan come off with a solvent...Part is in great shape,like new,no damage ...Make an offer..... Rick _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 19 12:46:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E1A72585470 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 12:46:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d05.mx.aol.com (omr-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD64258542C for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 12:46:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com [172.26.50.176]) by omr-d05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1737D70040698 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:46:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-lga03a.mail.aol.com (core-lga03.mail.aol.com [10.76.11.3]) by mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id BC5C93800008D for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:46:39 -0400 (EDT) From: REK46@aol.com Full-name: REK46 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:46:39 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1408474000; bh=i7If7ScOE4P1QHCOmfK2tCzDTcGcKnaG0d0E9J85wLw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DVEvafoye5P3EP8z+zC7DsNzNaA8tc5b0G3ycSpbMDN1axD7t38ZfgRr2DZuE1WN0 OFB0uDUSVCrVvuWjd+W742BJtTJeLoz0rAVPXqRIwleKkHGN2UwHRHjPF98HhplzFC +VaLyfYbJEwMcxKVFgZs7kdnJrhIKm7YFGNdw3kk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a32b053f39b8f05fb Subject: [Fot] posts to list Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Test...is anyone getting these? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 19 12:55:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14FF6258559F for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 12:55:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28BB82584F88 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 12:53:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D51A2C01E0 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 12:54:27 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 12:54:26 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <25c4c.6963e356.4124f58f@aol.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] posts to list Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net REK46@aol.com wrote: > Test...is anyone getting these? I never saw it. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 19 12:58:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E68425855E0 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 12:58:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3139425854FA for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 12:57:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vwm29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (vwm29.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.10.59]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0NAK008PEI1D5VH0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:58:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [67.83.138.143] by webtop.webmail.optimum.net with HTTP; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:58:25 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:58:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Redmond To: REK46@aol.com References: <25c4c.6963e356.4124f58f@aol.com> User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] posts to list Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I did On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 02:46 PM, REK46@aol.com wrote: > Test...is anyone getting these? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 19 14:12:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A4D2584F18 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:12:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m03.mx.aol.com (omr-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E862584E72 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:12:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mcc01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mcc01.mx.aol.com [172.26.253.85]) by omr-m03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4912B70036205; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:12:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dtb005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dtb005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.162.209]) by mtaomg-mcc01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id EEB4838000086; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:12:44 -0400 (EDT) References: <25c4c.6963e356.4124f58f@aol.com> <53F39D62.6090002@bradakis.com> To: mark@bradakis.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Bruce Lapierre Received: from 198.14.215.15 by webmail-d279.sysops.aol.com (205.188.16.108) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:12:44 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:12:44 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1408479165; bh=HFdSzQ8G6vaVBt6Gij/w+BMRseME4acBc3zoYXu9ERA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nl8SiZkNaVCTRXP1oMvYGWKwFpq8oTFb8dvWWArXDsZCjcvcjh4UKYQb6TQvFG7dR FCCMbPw+St3hAh7jW5c3fnuSxEEpTlscabI0fQvRWiq0GdGeBv6YFm43fVjaESCfc1 rwu4gcXIktJtYUbuOM2g2a627BvKvwdrioLNZ8U4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afd5553f3afbc403c Subject: Re: [Fot] posts to list Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I received your test -----Original Message----- From: Mark J Bradakis To: fot Sent: Tue, Aug 19, 2014 3:14 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] posts to list REK46@aol.com wrote: > Test...is anyone getting these? I never saw it. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 19 16:26:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9602584EB9 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:26:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2B325807BF for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:25:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from new-host.home (pool-71-162-132-246.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [71.162.132.246]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NAK007N5RNKBM10@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 22:26:11 +0000 (GMT) From: Scott Janzen Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:53:09 -0400 References: <25c4c.6963e356.4124f58f@aol.com> <10e0031b.67f1e.147efa26d3f.Webtop.59@optonline.net> To: Todd Redmond engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.27,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-08-19_05:2014-08-19,2014-08-19,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=11 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1408190260 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] posts to list Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net yep - got 'em all. On Aug 19, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Todd Redmond wrote: I did On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 02:46 PM, REK46@aol.com wrote: > Test...is anyone getting these? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 19 16:30:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8512585642 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:30:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f182.google.com (mail-ig0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 202D825804AC for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:30:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f182.google.com with SMTP id c1so10399992igq.3 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:30:48 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :references:in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:cc:from :date:content-type:mime-version; bh=kQH9GhQONzDviQzMgBgk8qgk0tw8KJpZZgxsTQoifRA=; b=Z0SidO4i1vFntcWJGXoIrmp2o0NnaKdEPlzn4DMDugGD6iwcCOSZwcHMISliZX1dn/ eVaUWQ7RBWwSdk7LWHZl8XYVmwuCIo9sPxyK/CwzkOuwFZxoTnVPoDTo5fcJ4OC2xNKg 6e7LD5fmsP+7NfxwPnRhoWRUsX3PYmKScZiffgYc+BBQsbx2Pcj2GZxzw1DroA4Z1Mot GsyVQvcyvlfWMqQ/l+v2F1EbYetVDVk6mfUuATRl5bWuHv6+ij+FFtXKrd0PeZm8TGnf vdC4dprmYuod1RPCLgWBu0EBA8LU954ZnE93+VIJ8MYi8wTxD6mP8Qr0VbVCcbVJAEZV V0IA== Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.186 (bda-74-82-80-88.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.88]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qq2sm3031247igb.19.2014.08.19.15.30.47 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:30:48 -0700 (PDT) References: <25c4c.6963e356.4124f58f@aol.com> <10e0031b.67f1e.147efa26d3f.Webtop.59@optonline.net> <0E05CE76-8A8B-4E91-851B-172A50F1EF9F@me.com> Sensitivity: Normal To: "Scott Janzen" ,"Fot" ,"Todd Redmond" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 22:30:53 +0000 Cc: Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] posts to list Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I did not get any from Todd Redmond but just got this from scott and got the one from mark b earlier today saying he did not get it. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Scott Janzen To: Todd Redmond Cc: Subject: Re: [Fot] posts to list yep - got 'em all. On Aug 19, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Todd Redmond wrote: I did On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 02:46 PM, REK46@aol.com wrote: > Test...is anyone getting these? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 19 16:33:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C97A25855FA for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:33:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f176.google.com (mail-ig0-f176.google.com [209.85.213.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0A2258459B for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:33:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f176.google.com with SMTP id hn18so10803034igb.9 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:34:28 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :references:in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:cc:from :date:content-type:mime-version; bh=d2A6bEBHl5fFmIny25/qrGL1EYe5LFMe84av1w47h1A=; b=f1lQLLSFniZcer1LvkkZFKRYztyL+5oVRwuqfDIVzN+AdiGMNijjcpWoIMrK50IiqQ 3KcjPfr4julzk9Q9yXPsND/mEGdtXL7HmK4DkQ8aYCifrUO85i7rXIB3HC0T8MF3u15d PZ4BMgEqvy04F4eNiamwgkxivIHwFNHKZTzaoCQM7sXdq8uzTXrq9FvAyyG8xDzxcG9a +9p0256weOcq/QuY5X7kZ7d6hM3zM0xWPJieqdl4wIQLp4EyOdyhOnErCweaKFqf50Dj 98gza/N1d29VVsEINRVwtDaeznjtcpdgLFfWrN1rfuOQa97w2lLY3Oy3Rx5opNFXI5ER 0xxw== nw5mr45953260icc.10.1408487667948; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.186 (bda-74-82-80-88.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.88]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id dx6sm3077880igb.15.2014.08.19.15.34.27 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:34:27 -0700 (PDT) References: <25c4c.6963e356.4124f58f@aol.com> <10e0031b.67f1e.147efa26d3f.Webtop.59@optonline.net> <0E05CE76-8A8B-4E91-851B-172A50F1EF9F@me.com> <1696260663-1408487446-cardhu_blackberry.rim.net-copy_sent_folder-429434375-@b18.c3.bise6.blackberry> Sensitivity: Normal To: "Scott Janzen" ,"Fot" ,"Todd Redmond" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 22:34:32 +0000 Cc: Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] posts to list Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Check that! Its the original one from REK46 that I didn't get. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 22:30:53 To: Scott Janzen; Fot; Todd Redmond Cc: Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] posts to list I did not get any from Todd Redmond but just got this from scott and got the one from mark b earlier today saying he did not get it. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Scott Janzen To: Todd Redmond Cc: Subject: Re: [Fot] posts to list yep - got 'em all. On Aug 19, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Todd Redmond wrote: I did On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 02:46 PM, REK46@aol.com wrote: > Test...is anyone getting these? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 19 18:19:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B0525845D1 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:19:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96FA42584536 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:17:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-aaa01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-aaa01.mx.aol.com [172.27.1.225]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id F26A8702F0884; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 20:18:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-aaa01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 900AB380000A3; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 20:18:02 -0400 (EDT) References: <25c4c.6963e356.4124f58f@aol.com> <10e0031b.67f1e.147efa26d3f.Webtop.59@optonline.net> <0E05CE76-8A8B-4E91-851B-172A50F1EF9F@me.com> <20140819223030.E9E27258567A@autox.team.net> From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 19:18:01 -0500 To: "jason@multivintage.com" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1408493882; bh=uYskLcY71GK+mS8QWYDqrWG0B6g+SunloPD2cfkXI00=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=YDTb0Pri9onsmxNva1I88Uz39TLsuE7YIZh5mCRA9W6iEuEyUCChGyXT10yOFWh5P SjWUFt0414CcBVnP1BBhxNAM4BtAzHSx0L1Y/abyAw1saLQlyildMI/x6Mh6ZGr/0e kLpXVBdfSEFY9EoTAWKQPAaK9q+u2bgzV55/1hek= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b01e153f3e93a2fa4 Cc: Fot , Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] posts to list Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Same here... Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Aug 19, 2014, at 5:30 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > > I did not get any from Todd Redmond but just got this from scott and got the one from mark b earlier today saying he did not get it. > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Janzen > Sender: "Fot" Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:53:09 > To: Todd Redmond > Cc: > Subject: Re: [Fot] posts to list > > yep - got 'em all. > > On Aug 19, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Todd Redmond wrote: > > I did > > >> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 02:46 PM, REK46@aol.com wrote: >> >> Test...is anyone getting these? >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 20 08:03:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A17C25849BD for ; 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Subject: [Fot] test Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 20 16:03:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028BD2580830 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:03:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f174.google.com (mail-wi0-f174.google.com [209.85.212.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871AD258075D for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:01:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f174.google.com with SMTP id d1so7806404wiv.1 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 15:02:21 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=TG9ZjdmFQY4Pfvfh4dV4hG9vKMMVb1PIul9+dFCNMRA=; b=r84CDyg2xcLCHNPuQcBYQn4j6L1XLX4eath5zBQn1D2wb4nD2XuWEmw70wlN9IMj0U b62R5TJ5zPo55/Gn1sZ1MPaVkF98iQ8e8+pQ+cyatPPB0CK+nDan3HQKewW5b0wHZTLi P5OlF0Zd4+v5gexmNDB1F4ZsYX7IW1OXbk2gJ2upNfOx31slikKVhuYYK/8P9AtdVHDi CWTOIJRVG6HJPaj1ZOGVKFMpzcDem90vtCZ2sL6aRWmZ9uxEwA+UNsMRuZ/7zwnWTpnF Mlco58t6j5XZMY1ofRBjX/ePs7+PbT+CNykj2wlDbU+ulxpuWgGWmXWOwSGaTgWQy6bB mcog== fb17mr23586270wjc.117.1408572141595; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 15:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.166.150.70]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id vn10sm61598075wjc.28.2014.08.20.15.02.20 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 20 Aug 2014 15:02:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <000001cfbca5$b007f150$1017d3f0$@com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 00:02:19 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac+8pa0p92sMFMJXRXWx0LxJF6R0SQAHIebA Content-Language: de Subject: [Fot] Racing shoes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, maybe this is of interest for you. The cute racing girl in our racing group with her E-Type costarred in a little video. http://youtu.be/ZzpwU8Lmdyo Have fun watching. Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 20 16:39:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE7B258465B for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:39:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FCBF25807C8 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:38:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id h7r21o0040vp7WLA9AfG0Z; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 22:39:16 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-208v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.176.218]) by omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id hAfF1o00U4j68Km8RAfFpW; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 22:39:16 +0000 Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 22:39:15 +0000 (UTC) From: toodamnfunky@comcast.net To: fot (Win)/8.0.3_GA_5664) Thread-Topic: A Triumph at the Monterey Historics?????? whooda thunk Thread-Index: /tNl/OUw52vYfKyKv4uXzce96eMLNw== s=q20140121; t=1408574356; bh=9QraNG1C5T3ro7bPosDe2Kol4p3qXkDb0GaBM8x+pQU=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=m5hTrDE7AZaFAwegzaDVS+MT+BUJp9FkJfJ6NFG2leuyAXkDbSr/uSy2dbQCC8qe8 OmKhEk7/L1FGjf7C23/9+4sTk7qJxJ3II0ecYWUZJAnmb/frDKHJHzC8lOEGIcQdg/ sq2y6ekkbXsUrpYxS6krgQwYxO22O2l9vcwUpt0YDdPGq8aTmj571tuDiD0uojUEdZ UxhY+OmuNOxrD+/F+/ORX8j3/dgXJR1JNVzQoAkrfbPuBreOqRgz5CWVpRFLMLrMls 3Rd4zTopAIb0kjjBp6rpNNCcbhh+4Uhcv8mnqQ2lnQ1564DhMSo/TGYc0Pa8LCgqGy N8fuM3Sl0pCyg== Subject: [Fot] A Triumph at the Monterey Historics?????? whooda thunk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The President's Cup - For historical significance to Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca - Bill Warner - Group 44 1971 Triumph TR6 that last ran at Laguna 40 years ago. B jim g _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 20 16:48:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C1925845B3 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:48:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA47025807E1 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:47:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.71]) by qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id h7Pu1o0021Y3wxoADAoE2o; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 22:48:14 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-208v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.176.218]) by omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id hAmE1o0054j68Km8bAmEqz; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 22:46:14 +0000 Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 22:46:14 +0000 (UTC) From: toodamnfunky@comcast.net To: Chris References: <000001cfbca5$b007f150$1017d3f0$@com> <001101cfbcc2$6a259940$3e70cbc0$@com> (Win)/8.0.3_GA_5664) Thread-Topic: Racing shoes Thread-Index: Ac+8pa0p92sMFMJXRXWx0LxJF6R0SQAHIebAsiNScco= s=q20140121; t=1408574894; bh=m0mXgD/sLkXEvnLt3I+uy3ykWbTPPdohDn/epGmODk0=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=Mnc6U415cn2q2Z4DDxJYEss2l4mpt7K62NFizXKC9ze8kge5xdLw03/YEoiyjSzUW c1jXu3jXZPqSVJ0EN0HDJ3Gsk5PGn99NT3MAEXn/HSM4v87i+yRdOIx3b0+Vqs7TaT s0cY3tAl+nhyTdddbuJ/PqvaOk/mapBXCnC/IhAqBA9SLrkhoQ9PGmlzfiGg+ZdF2S WWMbstL/Cv6fB+7NDM40WHl/uF5NfF4PKDCUcTqYjrjGOK5gJ86NwQmQnlAg2ZL+Yq e/zW08rLpYhbZSKhmQWoGheP148WGF2ij3tXyCtuqPFr28Dmz4270S1/RxuHfKE4zL Bqdl6PS7YaTMw== Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Racing shoes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That's a really, really good schuh. B jim g ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" To: "fot" Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 4:02:19 PM Subject: [Fot] Racing shoes Hi, maybe this is of interest for you. The cute racing girl in our racing group with her E-Type costarred in a little video. http://youtu.be/ZzpwU8Lmdyo Have fun watching. Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 20 16:50:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2612A2584652 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:50:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B840725807EA; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:50:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20140820225123.MIJZ9941.mta21.charter.net@imp11>; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:51:23 -0400 Received: from mtaout002.msg.strl.va.charter.net ([68.114.190.27]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id hArP1o0090buw5Q05ArPgg; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:51:23 -0400 Received: from impout001 ([68.114.189.16]) by mtaout002.msg.strl.va.charter.net (InterMail vM.9.00.010.00 201-2473-137) with ESMTP id <20140820225123.NWZO16771.mtaout002.msg.strl.va.charter.net@impout001>; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:51:23 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([71.82.75.224]) by impout001 with charter.net id hArN1o00A4qMSqn01ArPZF; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:51:23 -0500 a=gMK1Bz0fHwHSWr+sAG47fA==:117 a=gMK1Bz0fHwHSWr+sAG47fA==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=tcnv99F1KMcA:10 a=HxVHyHzQlXYA:10 a=WC7Mze1m74UA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=MMG6xFvHeyvolxHaD6gA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:51:12 -0400 From: Glenn Franco User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: fot@autox.team.net, "spitfires@autox.team.net" References: <64ea6.1a2bb878.412113cc@aol.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] rare find - Spitfire bonnet Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have a Spitfire Mark IV and 1500 brand new front bonnet with the made in England label still on the underside of the part. Comparable parts at moss or vicky brits go for between $2200 to $2400.00. I'm downsizing so if your interested make me an offer. Pickup only near Ann Arbor, Michigan. Glenn On 8/16/2014 4:06 PM, REK46@aol.com wrote: > I have a early Spitfire (roundtail) Boot Lid...This is an NOS part,still > has orig. Stanpart label and pkg.on it .It is an orig. replacement part from > Triumph that I bought in or around 1967 for my Mark III. It is perfect,no > rust ,no dents,in orig. factory primer and has the underside framework on > it....This would be perfect for someone doing a max restoration with > documentations and provenance....I can take pics and offers if you contact me off > line...These are not available in catalogs that I have seen,except Rimmers > lists one at about $900 or 900 BSP....Rick > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gaf3@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 20 19:29:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9061925856E6 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 19:29:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB3025805D1 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 19:29:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20140821013009.RGFN4658.mta11.charter.net@imp10> for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 21:30:09 -0400 Received: from mtaout005.msg.strl.va.charter.net ([68.114.190.30]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id hDW91o0010fnx6C05DW9Re; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 21:30:09 -0400 Received: from impout006 ([68.114.189.21]) by mtaout005.msg.strl.va.charter.net (InterMail vM.9.00.010.00 201-2473-137) with ESMTP id <20140821013009.TEHF20227.mtaout005.msg.strl.va.charter.net@impout006> for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 20:30:09 -0500 Received: from wt09 ([209.225.8.59]) by impout006 with charter.net id hDW91o0041GRMdM01DW9H6; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 20:30:09 -0500 a=urPwiOiMannvafTwzIAh5w==:117 a=urPwiOiMannvafTwzIAh5w==:17 a=DjgljUQ80_UA:10 a=mHCrXjVOzmIA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=YJxmFB8jQkYA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=XIYa9Vmw2S5mtVPYe_gA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=-7A8jJpDX0AGmJgA808A:9 a=Fby8H9ZAbTbtgcQ1:21 Received: from [68.115.89.35] by enhanced.charter.net with HTTP; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 21:30:09 -0400 Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 21:30:09 -0400 (EDT) From: damys@charter.net To: fot@autox.team.net User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Subject: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello, I'm new to the group and hope I can get some advice. My son and I are building a GT6 into a racer and need some help. We've had the engine rebuilt with some mods. Ross pistons, WBC cam, roller rockers, head shaved to approx. 10-1 compression, mild port job and balanced. At Elkhart last weekend we overheated the engine and now there is no oil pressure at idle. The engine runs strong, no noise, and still has pressure when cold. As the engine warms the pressure drops. I will add a heavier radiator cap and a shroud to direct air into the stock style (aluminum) radiator. It's been suggested I shim the pressure relief valve to increase overall oil pressure. Any advice on resolving the oil and temp problems. The engine easily turns 6500 RPM's but we have the MSD set at 6000. The engine has approx. 1000 miles on it. Thanks, Dave Amys _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 20 19:45:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39EA125857B1 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 19:45:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f179.google.com (mail-ie0-f179.google.com [209.85.223.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555C9258571F for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 19:45:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f179.google.com with SMTP id rl12so3765642iec.24 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:45:56 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :references:in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date :content-type:mime-version; bh=dAE7T39XaEiFxRv/PaYChHTZUP/5olkHQo6zpDiGYdg=; b=MFM41k56GLZFSEiPZ5+nRb67CyatlJLMxobk3Pqq4pdypCBt5ORLPGi4TWUy1m/kM2 nDKnNRkGmxJpWjQl+Hw5bI4kTVN7WL6HUWaHMtuwniPccycryBUdHALPtJby+hkyzjL/ n61nfMW+lZcvLBctnRNuM1bEtvupwa+Qa5BucklzDIWPQ7cIBJCviOwL+RTnIpS5n2cd Txd4Bit+F2kDdzX9mkU0GDkJctpX4bN+w8Bi/rWZ+dLbneHwLwu3JSF8H7j44AsdsMbd Wtv0teAD1vAeNdUubaU1t4HAXKXA684AXcLa++ZHBRN71mhDrpsIIyy5Sz8KypSXL2e0 2khQ== cj9mr652794igc.14.1408585556650; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:45:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.186 (bda-74-82-80-88.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.88]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id k5sm17757511igx.12.2014.08.20.18.45.55 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:45:56 -0700 (PDT) References: <1770f939.9d8e0.147f62f6d32.Webtop.49@charter.net> Sensitivity: Normal To: damys@charter.net,"Fot" ,"Fot" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 01:45:55 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, glad to hear you are doing this in our area. Lots of questions there and possible problems/ scenarios. Lets start with the most obvious. The stock sized radiator will not work for a race car. You need not only the shrouding (which you need for sure) but you need more volume. There are cheap and expensive options. Start with a high quality oversized unit as big as you can fit and your over heating should stop. The right unit will fix your problem and last for decades. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: damys@charter.net To: Subject: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating Hello, I'm new to the group and hope I can get some advice. My son and I are building a GT6 into a racer and need some help. We've had the engine rebuilt with some mods. Ross pistons, WBC cam, roller rockers, head shaved to approx. 10-1 compression, mild port job and balanced. At Elkhart last weekend we overheated the engine and now there is no oil pressure at idle. The engine runs strong, no noise, and still has pressure when cold. As the engine warms the pressure drops. I will add a heavier radiator cap and a shroud to direct air into the stock style (aluminum) radiator. It's been suggested I shim the pressure relief valve to increase overall oil pressure. Any advice on resolving the oil and temp problems. The engine easily turns 6500 RPM's but we have the MSD set at 6000. The engine has approx. 1000 miles on it. Thanks, Dave Amys _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 20 19:49:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA9725857AE for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 19:49:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f172.google.com (mail-ig0-f172.google.com [209.85.213.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9DD02585763 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 19:47:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f172.google.com with SMTP id h15so12602404igd.17 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:48:32 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :references:in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date :content-type:mime-version; bh=fVJa5BCRgpQqgILaqoRkG44jCdQI7g1XX/ebRED93i8=; b=NnQwNuXaMlmN9amVfVxqQWBlA30MEurBl3h1mx3Z0twaTsgLA0bevC/Jti9jQyYUli uv7sv8T+UfQ3FL+QVwcc/X80J3IbOoBtHF9ZSKTSBp/VT5zwzFddLWMf76ZstonywlJH w6paKdQpQq0IMydCW/K9AybPo6mKvvdSWg1cVJKG/1N0zQSirQzX4fW9ji5kR1yy+B3D HiBlRj94s2nphLBSEY8zeE4HaGtXqCbYEIvG1sdxGVP1Fw6XpaPfJrOgCGvdtCWKZbDv XAeQz63leduyF0s6xS3lbJ4QpwqS+Aohp3g+eyrbX+6ukPps+RdheKtGKhCb3lPK5pZg 3AMA== u6mr859180icx.31.1408585712185; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.186 (bda-74-82-80-88.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.88]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qk7sm1990571igc.1.2014.08.20.18.48.31 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:48:31 -0700 (PDT) References: <1770f939.9d8e0.147f62f6d32.Webtop.49@charter.net> <20140821014539.0AA8725857A6@autox.team.net> Sensitivity: Normal To: jason@multivintage.com,damys@charter.net,"Fot" ,"Fot" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 01:48:31 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Use a 17 lb radiator cap. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 01:45:55 To: ; Fot; Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating Hi, glad to hear you are doing this in our area. Lots of questions there and possible problems/ scenarios. Lets start with the most obvious. The stock sized radiator will not work for a race car. You need not only the shrouding (which you need for sure) but you need more volume. There are cheap and expensive options. Start with a high quality oversized unit as big as you can fit and your over heating should stop. The right unit will fix your problem and last for decades. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: damys@charter.net To: Subject: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating Hello, I'm new to the group and hope I can get some advice. My son and I are building a GT6 into a racer and need some help. We've had the engine rebuilt with some mods. Ross pistons, WBC cam, roller rockers, head shaved to approx. 10-1 compression, mild port job and balanced. At Elkhart last weekend we overheated the engine and now there is no oil pressure at idle. The engine runs strong, no noise, and still has pressure when cold. As the engine warms the pressure drops. I will add a heavier radiator cap and a shroud to direct air into the stock style (aluminum) radiator. It's been suggested I shim the pressure relief valve to increase overall oil pressure. Any advice on resolving the oil and temp problems. The engine easily turns 6500 RPM's but we have the MSD set at 6000. The engine has approx. 1000 miles on it. Thanks, Dave Amys _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 20 20:04:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5ADC2585776 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 20:04:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621792584B99 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 20:01:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id rd18so3916189iec.14 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 19:02:18 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :references:in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date :content-type:mime-version; bh=jBJ5hIhyDzb6P5q+HfbRnbhyN1jrLT6uZR5jV9XRDQ8=; b=PJFd020Q5z+h6mP6izqcGu5J7WErEcYRZrylnhi9AusLxzmZjOCXeSekLUpcd0+CeI vTBoRQRqnKkezUkaag9MroUgahmrg/t7AL7KJE4VYC7b7/7Zp92bdlCwyex1kRumxQYb bPjUM40DYnnCXHhJy9F1Yg+uHCLvYRwIfNXn1Qg2S2oWyoXZQK3FTtel0antFQH4ErsZ q9toKQXrVH601TSi21//+R8Ksva0P/tqGX0dhrl209IYG23YtQi5/f6oASnk7Ibkcb2B znvbi3uob1AHTEg/ptCiSsdGcJ0QG9QyrzZ0om/jeOYcOs4Jgu9o80rqvKU4LLAi4UaV dKtw== a13mr877726icc.37.1408586538777; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 19:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.186 (bda-74-82-80-88.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.88]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o9sm17896104igv.18.2014.08.20.19.02.17 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 20 Aug 2014 19:02:18 -0700 (PDT) References: <1770f939.9d8e0.147f62f6d32.Webtop.49@charter.net> <20140821014539.0AA8725857A6@autox.team.net> <1429611314-1408585709-cardhu_blackberry.rim.net-copy_sent_folder-1627337968-@b18.c3.bise6.blackberry> Sensitivity: Normal To: damys@charter.net,"Fot" ,"Fot" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 02:02:17 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The cap should be farther up in the system than on the radiator, have it up as high as you can on an additional expansion tank where you fill the system from. And another overflow tank (as well) beyond that. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 01:48:31 To: ; ; Fot; Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating Use a 17 lb radiator cap. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 01:45:55 To: ; Fot; Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating Hi, glad to hear you are doing this in our area. Lots of questions there and possible problems/ scenarios. Lets start with the most obvious. The stock sized radiator will not work for a race car. You need not only the shrouding (which you need for sure) but you need more volume. There are cheap and expensive options. Start with a high quality oversized unit as big as you can fit and your over heating should stop. The right unit will fix your problem and last for decades. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: damys@charter.net To: Subject: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating Hello, I'm new to the group and hope I can get some advice. My son and I are building a GT6 into a racer and need some help. We've had the engine rebuilt with some mods. Ross pistons, WBC cam, roller rockers, head shaved to approx. 10-1 compression, mild port job and balanced. At Elkhart last weekend we overheated the engine and now there is no oil pressure at idle. The engine runs strong, no noise, and still has pressure when cold. As the engine warms the pressure drops. I will add a heavier radiator cap and a shroud to direct air into the stock style (aluminum) radiator. It's been suggested I shim the pressure relief valve to increase overall oil pressure. Any advice on resolving the oil and temp problems. The engine easily turns 6500 RPM's but we have the MSD set at 6000. The engine has approx. 1000 miles on it. Thanks, Dave Amys _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 20 20:07:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA7B2585781 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 20:07:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E94C258558E for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 20:07:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.11.82.172] (mobile-166-170-032-146.mycingular.net [166.170.32.146]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NAM00I0MWLA4890@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 02:08:00 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.27,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-08-21_01:2014-08-20,2014-08-21,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1408210028 References: <1770f939.9d8e0.147f62f6d32.Webtop.49@charter.net> From: SCOTT JANZEN Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 22:07:56 -0400 To: "damys@charter.net" Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If it had good oil pressure before and doesn't now, I doubt it's the pressure relief valve. Is there oil in the coolant or vice versa? You said there is no pressure at idle - is there pressure at higher RPMs? You should of course connect a pressure gauge to the oil galley - remove one of the plugs on the galley to do this - before you do anything else to make sure it's not the gauge or connection. I agree with Jason that you need a bigger or deeper rad, preferably aluminum though obviously that won't cure the oil pressure issue. Keep us posted. Good luck! Sent from my mobile device > On Aug 20, 2014, at 9:30 PM, damys@charter.net wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm new to the group and hope I can get some advice. My son and I are > building a GT6 into a racer and need some help. We've had the engine > rebuilt with some mods. Ross pistons, WBC cam, roller rockers, head > shaved to approx. 10-1 compression, mild port job and balanced. > > At Elkhart last weekend we overheated the engine and now there is no oil > pressure at idle. The engine runs strong, no noise, and still has > pressure when cold. As the engine warms the pressure drops. > > I will add a heavier radiator cap and a shroud to direct air into the > stock style (aluminum) radiator. It's been suggested I shim the > pressure relief valve to increase overall oil pressure. > > Any advice on resolving the oil and temp problems. > > The engine easily turns 6500 RPM's but we have the MSD set at 6000. The > engine has approx. 1000 miles on it. > > Thanks, > > Dave Amys > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 20 20:27:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F802584572 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 20:27:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qproxy1-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (qproxy1-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [173.254.64.10]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 653DA2580836 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 20:27:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 15486 invoked by uid 0); 21 Aug 2014 02:28:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by qproxy1.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 21 Aug 2014 02:28:17 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw2 with id hE8B1o00N1NzpT901E8E0Z; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 20:08:17 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=RDU0paH9RfkA:10 a=yKqyAkVeGwwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=jJrOw3FHAAAA:8 a=B7fE-gpLUIP9IVWNDHQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=pgvguYhHBaUA:10 a=l4bBFdaWxmIA:10 a=zGlHrSWtykwA:10 a=FU4QsWcZpzsA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=YMAi7zOkarIA:10 a=OD6sjAxUnBUA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=49397 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XKHnQ-00017Q-Ci for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 20:08:12 -0600 Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 21:08:06 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: [Fot] In-car videos from Grattan Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sunday morning Feature race: http://youtu.be/fC9T-rBls8w Sunday afternoon race: http://youtu.be/afrmKLbPfa8 If you only want to watch one, do the Sunday afternoon race - I think the video's somewhat more interesting. Tried a new microphone placement - cut down on the gear whine but increased wind noise. Will try somewhere else at Road America. Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 21 03:53:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF0125848FB for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 03:53:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f176.google.com (mail-we0-f176.google.com [74.125.82.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 739952580A2A for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 03:53:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-we0-f176.google.com with SMTP id q58so9051707wes.35 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 02:53:55 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=OeOfnlLH70/jBa7KlbCZQqpXaONXjozWuJeeOyfajLA=; b=KQ/9k+GzXj20ydTXBcS3gCX9lwJNvdw8bsPCIZGwkjLegxaPZ8x7IUxJmK7ACvLb+Y qQnf/Qkk52mvrbggBS0wRiNVs9sPjcpLYxhCoEqv5dKA2yvaxt5vwoVokpn/mULtzSCg DeuDb3PhEmLT9WvBdPtXnrL4EGjaxAZalq3nUajk7KRKDbdo9N59vUK03BPT1E+cclpE NguAHrAgn60tu4wXrPd7wnEocMsYXZzKGWxSGjuKz6kwJ/75nkSxcuavR4fgvjK5o95d 5HmhZ1dlZW+lPSgZPCO9l5hUUo4E7pCI9m0sdkjRCiOpar4DQxzADdnUlBOxSTbD2IIZ WKhA== ff4mr3546492wic.76.1408614834828; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 02:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.80.201 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 02:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.80.201 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 02:53:54 -0700 (PDT) References: <1770f939.9d8e0.147f62f6d32.Webtop.49@charter.net> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 11:53:54 +0200 From: Christian Marx To: damys@charter.net, fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I suppose you have dirt in your relief valve. Cheers Chris Am 21.08.2014 03:30 schrieb : > Hello, > > I'm new to the group and hope I can get some advice. My son and I are > building a GT6 into a racer and need some help. We've had the engine > rebuilt with some mods. Ross pistons, WBC cam, roller rockers, head > shaved to approx. 10-1 compression, mild port job and balanced. > > At Elkhart last weekend we overheated the engine and now there is no oil > pressure at idle. The engine runs strong, no noise, and still has > pressure when cold. As the engine warms the pressure drops. > > I will add a heavier radiator cap and a shroud to direct air into the > stock style (aluminum) radiator. It's been suggested I shim the > pressure relief valve to increase overall oil pressure. > > Any advice on resolving the oil and temp problems. > > The engine easily turns 6500 RPM's but we have the MSD set at 6000. The > engine has approx. 1000 miles on it. > > Thanks, > > Dave Amys > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 21 10:19:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00BF4258083A for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 10:19:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.23.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E4F92580833 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 10:18:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 8512 invoked by uid 0); 21 Aug 2014 16:19:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw3) (10.0.90.84) by gproxy4.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 21 Aug 2014 16:19:33 -0000 Received: from box609.bluehost.com ([70.40.220.109]) by cmgw3 with id haKT1o0052ND4fa01aKWK7; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 16:19:31 -0600 a=lIFjRvzYbs2a9zjsf5t3KA==:117 a=lIFjRvzYbs2a9zjsf5t3KA==:17 a=cNaOj0WVAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=mjHxJximMcMA:10 a=NG0IswC7AAAA:8 a=OClWVmo2AGkA:10 a=0gXf9ufkx6IA:10 a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=Zr7miEi8wWIA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=uGEvdhCgAAAA:8 a=JAralIE_AAAA:8 a=Isi_41X_hjlMhMdX7IMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=ARLMukiix34A:10 a=C7YnqLjT7bEA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=I13UjvUeDVwAFRzuYyQA:9 a=nGRIWRZUL7amvPeS:21 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=FoLopk8cqeGNkQHUyrUA:9 a=AnHzj7RKBgC1IcEG:18 a=KQqxNPgzF0kA:10 d=klaenv.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:To:From; bh=VEpW67ptXX0EanyTBWg8klI7lu1akWMas73wxJhjnd8=; b=bfIzvur1FY+xqlW0/bcqdgbWHgV4iV0GqYZ9mLWq/KvmUfzVg9ovB0OvHGzKQEcQZmdFp3eTBAjg7rgg2p+BfCAsB8qE8WDDVsL/cIK7rNOBUrpt+7iRu4r7QlpE6sdQ; Received: from [208.17.77.136] (port=52692 helo=4ZQFXQ1KENPC) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XKV5E-0002i4-6H for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 10:19:28 -0600 From: "Kenneth Knight" To: "FOT" References: <1408636950.1239.YahooMailNeo@web122905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 09:19:31 -0700 Thread-Index: AQGOr6KxGMXOKQ1WnmExIjnSAaVPBZxdVuQg Content-Language: en-us {sentby:smtp auth 208.17.77.136 authed with kknight@klaenv.com} Subject: [Fot] FW: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net TR-250 for sale. This car is owned by my good friend Glenn Carlino. I helped him find it in the early 90' in California, where is was owned by a Moss Motors guy. The car (located in Cleveland) has been very well cared for and never been driven a day in winter weather. If anyone is looking for a very clean, unrestored TR-250 this is it! Cheers, Ken From: Gl Car [mailto:glcar@ymail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 9:03 AM To: Kenneth Knight Subject: Well maintained 1968 tr-250 with overdrive. No prior accidents or body damage. Original paint and configuration throughout. Paint shows wear to primer on top fender edges. It has 205/65 S rated tires with Panasport like rims (made in England). I have made some changes but retained all original parts that were removed. Installed electronic ignition, high speed starter, spin on oil filter, modern rear shocks, K&N air filters, Addco front sway bar. It had front Koni shock when purchased. The car looks original inside and out. It runs strong. Asking $27,000 with many parts. Negotiable. Additional information 440-8884335 or cell 440-799-3115, pictures on Hemming's e/ads or https://www.flickr.com/photos/125626619@N02/sets/72157645373866483/ Image removed by sender. image View on www.flickr.com Preview by Yahoo [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 21 15:35:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBDC258091A for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 15:35:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08399258086A for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 15:35:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id hWPG1o0051HzFnQ54Zbpjd; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 21:35:49 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-162v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.48.196]) by omta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id hZbp1o00N4DyWjm3aZbp95; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 21:35:49 +0000 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 21:35:49 +0000 (UTC) From: cudapilot@comcast.net To: fot@autox.team.net Cc: fot@autox.team.net References: <1408636950.1239.YahooMailNeo@web122905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <001001cfbd5b$b1c22cc0$15468640$@klaenv.com> (Win)/8.0.3_GA_5664) Thread-Topic: VSCDA Pictures Thread-Index: AQGOr6KxGMXOKQ1WnmExIjnSAaVPBZxdVuQgBzHxQaY= s=q20140121; t=1408656949; bh=Yn6HQVSPTpqFWLgJ3rQC5m7xBVUQMeI9kM/JES28mXo=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=LOE1PLj+ebbpUZhGN1uscSbhvuFGKZEnPasOQrEyQ/LcYccQEBVeV4+eg8D1dV7L7 KTOa+yBcPlgK9rBNB/mmxRsgUgbfhcUzsgv5mx8ZLsxuV0rICTFaj5tomkylFDcRqM CIBko6z6Zj/STGSTVMU7I8xblioLNi+zYR1zaFI7oHQHPw6KMJpQveE+YQDKSORT/B 6k/vT8aAsGfc00pptl5yKSQ5CI5g3ux4ur/awhdeoO9iP6JIdbR5jgQU1uFsTiOH1V fpPAMFUanidfHbVp3tu1PggsC52s4riDPHD8z7Vlxq2bxaD9vXgv24wCctn/9OYr0T FjQuxOM95XLZQ== Subject: [Fot] VSCDA Pictures Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici- I am finally getting around to clearing off some SD cards and have uploaded some FOT shots from various VSCDA events on Flickr.B More to come. B https://www.flickr.com/photos/41116744@N05/sets/72157646625162282/ B Brian Garcia Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 21 22:49:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52279258095A for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 22:49:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB102258092C for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 22:48:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.87]) by qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id hgml1o0011smiN4A9gpN2w; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 04:49:22 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-503v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.178.3]) by omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id hgpN1o00B04nC6y8ggpNbW; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 04:49:22 +0000 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 04:49:21 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: cudapilot@comcast.net References: <1408636950.1239.YahooMailNeo@web122905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <001001cfbd5b$b1c22cc0$15468640$@klaenv.com> <2122087318.6392326.1408656949403.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Thread-Topic: VSCDA Pictures Thread-Index: AQGOr6KxGMXOKQ1WnmExIjnSAaVPBZxdVuQgBzHxQaZtQi4wag== s=q20140121; t=1408682962; bh=n0Q+HmeTcaHqjeBej0Lh3nzuPEejcSiZ4LsYMzkMVVM=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=b3tqdqHu3P1vkv8/ZX9bZrD22mrwKLo2hpOjmN2iJ8f2AfP4YT+TgyKCPxDgV0Njp F9mqZIeGOSzOGSBkjnVYWvkabxXqVTOwihHD1VcSlCms+/N5i4lfNJtr4iN6qGb0Fg /FBPa5Usv/0uJJoix7CXT0HIonk8MnU1QKbZtSgqinjlG/+8ta0Kvybvef9Qy+GMew Pb6UqUHR0O6bL+RMQQO1Vmvqhuf6HqC5JxWEo2zspRiue7ZVLvRNXcFQQV+nK3Uxht Dp9cHrE2tIQ69ayR/ZdXnd1UCMI9bfV5ELgGWBiJmZQImNu4gXR9h7g4K809virSRk l1UYjegAz5OLQ== Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] VSCDA Pictures Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wow, very nice photos. Great group of cars and drivers. Thanks for sharing. Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- From: cudapilot@comcast.net To: "Friends of Triumph" Cc: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 2:35:49 PM Subject: [Fot] VSCDA Pictures Amici- I am finally getting around to clearing off some SD cards and have uploaded some FOT shots from various VSCDA events on Flickr.B More to come. B https://www.flickr.com/photos/41116744@N05/sets/72157646625162282/ B Brian Garcia Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 22 08:02:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D576258466A for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 08:02:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.23.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4DDC125809E2 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 08:01:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 609 invoked by uid 0); 22 Aug 2014 14:01:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by gproxy4.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2014 14:01:44 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw2 with id hq1d1o0011NzpT901q1gmP; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 08:01:43 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=vBJ804XkanAA:10 a=yKqyAkVeGwwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=JAralIE_AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=6onLJf-_Ea_CC3JSwUgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=50377 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XKpPN-0000Cb-Of; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 08:01:37 -0600 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 09:01:31 -0500 To: cudapilot@comcast.net,fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews > References: <1408636950.1239.YahooMailNeo@web122905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <001001cfbd5b$b1c22cc0$15468640$@klaenv.com> <2122087318.6392326.1408656949403.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] VSCDA Pictures Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Agreed! Includes pics of Bill Dentinger in Old Blue and Bob Wismer in his TR-4 - both are now TRiumph history. Was nice to see those in action again. (Plus some great shots of me in the company of many Triumph brethren) Tony At 04:35 PM 8/21/2014, cudapilot@comcast.net wrote: >Amici- >I am finally getting around to clearing off some SD cards and have uploaded >some FOT shots from various VSCDA events on Flickr.B More to come. >B >https://www.flickr.com/photos/41116744@N05/sets/72157646625162282/ >B >Brian Garcia >Friendly Ghost Racing >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 22 11:32:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E71B2580B7C for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 11:32:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from xavier.telenet-ops.be (xavier.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78AB25808C6 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 11:31:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([141.134.4.155]) by xavier.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id htYP1o00Z3LgakV01tYVjP; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 19:32:29 +0200 From: "Marcel Van Mulders" To: References: <1770f939.9d8e0.147f62f6d32.Webtop.49@charter.net> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 19:32:09 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac+834hyZNzJmxCPS4yFLFjRboI+sQBTCr1Q Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Putting shims behind the spring in the pressure relief valve will increase the oil pressure when the engine is cold, but it won't have any influence when the engine is hot, because the pressure relief valve is fully closed when the oil has warmed up (unless it is leaking...) Without a pressure relief valve, the oil pressure could be very very high when starting the engine from cold. This valve is there only to prevent damage. If the gauge needle is no longer moving at idle after warming up, it's likely that something has happened since the overheating. The gauge can be at fault. If not,checking the oil pump and bearings is not that much work. It would be a pity to ruin a freshly rebuilt engine, it seems the engine has not a lot of damage now. Marcel -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens damys@charter.net Verzonden: donderdag 21 augustus 2014 3:30 Aan: fot@autox.team.net Onderwerp: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating Hello, I'm new to the group and hope I can get some advice. My son and I are building a GT6 into a racer and need some help. We've had the engine rebuilt with some mods. Ross pistons, WBC cam, roller rockers, head shaved to approx. 10-1 compression, mild port job and balanced. At Elkhart last weekend we overheated the engine and now there is no oil pressure at idle. The engine runs strong, no noise, and still has pressure when cold. As the engine warms the pressure drops. I will add a heavier radiator cap and a shroud to direct air into the stock style (aluminum) radiator. It's been suggested I shim the pressure relief valve to increase overall oil pressure. Any advice on resolving the oil and temp problems. The engine easily turns 6500 RPM's but we have the MSD set at 6000. The engine has approx. 1000 miles on it. Thanks, Dave Amys _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 22 11:33:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22AB0258447C for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 11:33:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mailb-ec.linkedin.com (mailb-ec.linkedin.com [199.101.162.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C1DF2580B7B for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 11:33:01 -0600 (MDT) bh=g9JsAvfXDpG5nxzNNZZdwno/cuTUk8GFspXNuOSwAvs=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: X-LinkedIn-Template:X-LinkedIn-Class:X-LinkedIn-fbl; b=1YQ762AooAYobkrhDHy3dAp/eg5U+9qVPq+KPhw466RtB7KgYqtMyyC8svtn6mv/A VCDfUFrsPzfbiIQjPhM3tds2KQzEroEIRw8/+2DKj4jFPXWvfP8BnPdwrpB0UBKqHq nUm2gg1cgV/0Hb+QUaXEwt4bddrYf4t14rC9+XMk= Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:33:42 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Eden via LinkedIn To: "Henry A. 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Learn why this is included: http://www.linkedin.com/e/q7zvpi-hz5sro3y-55/plh/http%3A%2F%2Fhelp%2Elinkedin%2Ecom%2Fapp%2Fanswers%2Fdetail%2Fa_id%2F4788/-GXI/?hs=false&tok=2Ikg5oNkstgCo1 (c) 2012, LinkedIn Corporation. 2029 Stierlin Ct, Mountain View, CA 94043, USA. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 22 11:50:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF8B2585807 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 11:50:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.23.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 611C12580B3C for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 11:50:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 8438 invoked by uid 0); 22 Aug 2014 17:51:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by gproxy4.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2014 17:51:03 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw2 with id htqz1o0081NzpT901tr2N0; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 11:51:02 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=dtD8g-HFz6wA:10 a=hzFtQraS398A:10 a=yKqyAkVeGwwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=FnePl-v7Nz0OUvpr57IA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=52249 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XKszL-0007IM-Rx; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 11:50:59 -0600 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 12:50:53 -0500 To: damys@charter.net,fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews References: <1770f939.9d8e0.147f62f6d32.Webtop.49@charter.net> {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've been thinking about this one. Nothing about overheating SHOULD cause the oil pressure change unless you managed to get water into the oil, I'd think. I'd start with removing and cleaning the oil pressure relief valve in the oil filter head. If you get a piece of dirt holding that open, you'll see low pressure at idle. Of course the advice about "check the pressure gauge" is good too. Tony Drews At 08:30 PM 8/20/2014, damys@charter.net wrote: >Hello, > >I'm new to the group and hope I can get some advice. My son and I are >building a GT6 into a racer and need some help. We've had the engine >rebuilt with some mods. Ross pistons, WBC cam, roller rockers, head >shaved to approx. 10-1 compression, mild port job and balanced. > >At Elkhart last weekend we overheated the engine and now there is no oil >pressure at idle. The engine runs strong, no noise, and still has >pressure when cold. As the engine warms the pressure drops. > >I will add a heavier radiator cap and a shroud to direct air into the >stock style (aluminum) radiator. It's been suggested I shim the >pressure relief valve to increase overall oil pressure. > >Any advice on resolving the oil and temp problems. > >The engine easily turns 6500 RPM's but we have the MSD set at 6000. The >engine has approx. 1000 miles on it. > >Thanks, > >Dave Amys >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 22 12:01:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A61D25857F1 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 12:01:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qg0-f51.google.com (mail-qg0-f51.google.com [209.85.192.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF9225807C1 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 11:58:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id a108so10474193qge.38 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 10:58:49 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=MNvZteGi571Sd4Dg5F1kpK+x8d2kL648x7O0S2+vNvc=; b=nCMg7PxeJG1ZIrrvX/nRKLkHEXuArzxcdmmFB7R3HAd4y5NM8kMx6qgYwK3z1rltbS 6ge19oGRPsFBHraEcJkyVBoQ8xYm8M3RQLb4/NdVGK5M8VAYuDxE4w0hQv9S1J+c5HXc LTQdzyGxqeGQ1Igb2Jd17osT8sh21ThRP+gXNME+KgpBZ9y74q2e30DJd2gmLie2/nlX qxntgnDM7QwxqejJVXLCNQGgtKHuyDh4c/fDmFzrXpSuquIWllyMJo+2+s7oAQqyQY2k rEfOxOFozaHGHaD0KzB27H6rwJ/8e5If8aF5+eDmdKryhFOwcz4IwPRGRiXnfrYVhh7x TJQw== jp4mr10544963qcb.4.1408730329270; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 10:58:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.30.137 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 10:58:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Kas Kastner Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 10:58:09 -0700 To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Low oil pressure after rebuild Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've had that several times and most cases it is just a piece of junk under ball of the relief valve. I have found a hair from a cleaning brush there a few times. One hair is enough to do it. Pieces of cleaning rags and old gasket material are the next candidates. *Never be beaten by equipment.* _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 22 12:02:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E273925857FE for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 12:02:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SNT004-OMC2S25.hotmail.com (snt004-omc2s25.hotmail.com [65.55.90.100]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4636B25844C0 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 11:59:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT407-EAS363 ([65.55.90.72]) by SNT004-OMC2S25.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Fri, 22 Aug 2014 10:59:52 -0700 References: <1770f939.9d8e0.147f62f6d32.Webtop.49@charter.net> <20140822175048.5F8362585802@autox.team.net> From: Tony and Annie Garmey Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 10:59:51 -0700 To: Tony Drews FILETIME=[DFA15C10:01CFBE32] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You say overheat ! How hot ? First thing I'd do is look inside the oil filter. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 22, 2014, at 10:51 AM, "Tony Drews" wrote: > > I've been thinking about this one. Nothing about overheating SHOULD cause the oil pressure change unless you managed to get water into the oil, I'd think. I'd start with removing and cleaning the oil pressure relief valve in the oil filter head. If you get a piece of dirt holding that open, you'll see low pressure at idle. > > Of course the advice about "check the pressure gauge" is good too. > > Tony Drews > > At 08:30 PM 8/20/2014, damys@charter.net wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'm new to the group and hope I can get some advice. My son and I are >> building a GT6 into a racer and need some help. We've had the engine >> rebuilt with some mods. Ross pistons, WBC cam, roller rockers, head >> shaved to approx. 10-1 compression, mild port job and balanced. >> >> At Elkhart last weekend we overheated the engine and now there is no oil >> pressure at idle. The engine runs strong, no noise, and still has >> pressure when cold. As the engine warms the pressure drops. >> >> I will add a heavier radiator cap and a shroud to direct air into the >> stock style (aluminum) radiator. It's been suggested I shim the >> pressure relief valve to increase overall oil pressure. >> >> Any advice on resolving the oil and temp problems. >> >> The engine easily turns 6500 RPM's but we have the MSD set at 6000. The >> engine has approx. 1000 miles on it. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dave Amys >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 22 13:17:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5356C25844B5 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 13:17:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qg0-f49.google.com (mail-qg0-f49.google.com [209.85.192.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5D925809A8 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 13:17:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qg0-f49.google.com with SMTP id j107so10574832qga.8 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 12:17:44 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=/h4LAEai1oPWTD5srAnwxZZW7X6P/k113jgrj1af4fo=; b=P1yEb2sTPIrOW/ZVL1TY/HxTbL07Ehc+1eHoepEJeOd/nwkRTGPeDb/D/URx4+Q22Q kkA6vtvk3QKU3HCQi4gncDLD+XQW9ISQyE6S7w5/wnpriDPDIZs6+PFjl/gouPsT6NtX KNYyijVYonvASnmB8ZhE7qBkuE9/thWCOQurZyDbsBYV8NZwCI4Z5UbTXf4WtjpJJKF/ nQKYLc3OZlgXmqKPirH6eAJFP0ZJqjNW43zNpoYRQLNLW17oVDr/GFuzOnAg2gjjEqWF hrjUOsbKem8I3vcgIWp5SVpBIuykm1KWupVrwQOtOpjuKzeKrPjClm05imvzXlnjDQiZ 3A8w== a79mr10639752qgf.46.1408735063987; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 12:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.97.70 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 12:17:43 -0700 (PDT) References: <1770f939.9d8e0.147f62f6d32.Webtop.49@charter.net> <20140822175048.5F8362585802@autox.team.net> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 14:17:43 -0500 From: Jason Ostrowski To: Tony and Annie Garmey Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net While we are on the subject of cutting open the oil filter; A quick comment on this: (only because I have seen 2 people recently not look not far enough towards the center of the filter) The bad stuff (if it exists) is not seen until you go deep into the inner folds of the filter. Hope you see nothing. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Tony and Annie Garmey < horizonracing@msn.com> wrote: > You say overheat ! How hot ? First thing I'd do is look inside the oil > filter. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 22, 2014, at 10:51 AM, "Tony Drews" wrote: > > > > I've been thinking about this one. Nothing about overheating SHOULD > cause > the oil pressure change unless you managed to get water into the oil, I'd > think. I'd start with removing and cleaning the oil pressure relief valve > in > the oil filter head. If you get a piece of dirt holding that open, you'll > see > low pressure at idle. > > > > Of course the advice about "check the pressure gauge" is good too. > > > > Tony Drews > > > > At 08:30 PM 8/20/2014, damys@charter.net wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> I'm new to the group and hope I can get some advice. My son and I are > >> building a GT6 into a racer and need some help. We've had the engine > >> rebuilt with some mods. Ross pistons, WBC cam, roller rockers, head > >> shaved to approx. 10-1 compression, mild port job and balanced. > >> > >> At Elkhart last weekend we overheated the engine and now there is no oil > >> pressure at idle. The engine runs strong, no noise, and still has > >> pressure when cold. As the engine warms the pressure drops. > >> > >> I will add a heavier radiator cap and a shroud to direct air into the > >> stock style (aluminum) radiator. It's been suggested I shim the > >> pressure relief valve to increase overall oil pressure. > >> > >> Any advice on resolving the oil and temp problems. > >> > >> The engine easily turns 6500 RPM's but we have the MSD set at 6000. The > >> engine has approx. 1000 miles on it. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Dave Amys > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 22 13:35:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3985C2584505 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 13:35:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com (omr-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66CD4258087B for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 13:35:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aaj01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aaj01.mx.aol.com [172.27.3.207]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id C3306702EBAD1; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 15:35:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mle002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mle002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.126.199]) by mtaomg-aaj01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 8D75A38000204; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 15:35:47 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 15:35:47 -0400 (EDT) To: cudapilot@comcast.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1408736147; bh=B/whWzRaA6S8Ga1j3kce0FNQ56onm0PaJJfdgv/U7qs=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NUtbEN+vh6CJftELTrK9DweEiKTISpS1F9hJ3TIFzsL1LyKHZrQp8frnM15sKyo8d en542N6N6kI1a8Pj32darWv2eSAbbtQQWtOdjA7lqZTcKpoDfnPq5EU0kdImANKu0t f0PIj1k273ueHYbGcbQKQZlfchC3cFDgdep8s7O0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b03cf53f79b934e79 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] VSCDA Pictures Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Dear Brian... Thank you so much for including pictures of Bob Wismer racing his TRIUMPH TR4 with your recent montage of photos, most of the others were from this past week end at GRATTAN RACEWAY. While Bob no longer monitors the FOT list, I try to forward some things to him. Believe me, he was touched by your gesture and warm feelings. FYI they stopped treating Bob's aggressive lung cancer about four weeks ago. He really is no longer strong enough for further treatment, which was only buying time anyway. And the time it bought had little quality (except for things like seeing your email). Racing is still Bob's passion, and he misses it. Bob's been at home, and in Hospice for over four weeks now (tough guy!) He is on oxygen and gets some morphine for pain. Two of his four daughters are highly trained nurses, so he is getting the BEST of care, and is pleased to be able to die at home. The tumors in one lung now cause him problems talking and eating, but he is still sharp and VERY cognizant. I hear from him almost every day. Racing remains a passion. He is a big F1 fan, and he googles YouTube stuff on his iPad. He enjoys hearing what is going on in our TRIUMPH family. Bob is a world class engineer, having been Vice President of Engineering at DEERE. Engineers are sometimes accused of being a bit cold emotionally. Bob tells me that aggressive lung cancer has taught him things about love, and family, and friends that he doubts he would have figured out without the cancer. I tease him that there is a 'POET' deep inside each of us...even engineers. Thanks again, Brian. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 22 14:32:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED692584974 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 14:32:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d02.mx.aol.com (omr-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB10225802EC for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 14:32:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mbc02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mbc02.mx.aol.com [172.26.221.144]) by omr-d02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 0A16C702EE0BC; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:33:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-lga03f.mail.aol.com (core-lga03.mail.aol.com [10.76.11.3]) by mtaomg-mbc02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C089138000085; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:33:15 -0400 (EDT) References: <1770f939.9d8e0.147f62f6d32.Webtop.49@charter.net> <20140822175048.5F8362585802@autox.team.net> To: jason@multivintage.com, horizonracing@msn.com Received: from 98.77.30.10 by webmail-m249.sysops.aol.com (64.12.138.244) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:33:15 -0400 From: fubog1 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:33:15 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1408739595; bh=/1lYQcLo/7eFSmF6BvCZo7KeUk4r26JBs8uv0BQDo7I=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bJ9wT8b2UOWhR3B+lnDLZIxrvlNYCO2ryEhw74MBfZDD+NGJlYk/6lVyFQe2MPqWr 7v0YyxVEpL4NDWdGQ865t2hyl/TQnvaRlfdCT9dDo01ZEZIkJhyh0KOGj6xIc6J/Jz zoz89tQ484M/AErInf0U9H6wpmJyzAgxEv2uN7n0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1add9053f7a90b0da9 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating/cutting oil filters Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I love my Obergs but I still cut open a lot of filters. (There is a nice "tubing cutter" type tool for removing the end.) Once the element is out, discard the junk ie spring, inner screen, & bypass valve, then the cardboard ends have to be removed. Once the ends are removed and the end of the pleats are open and not full of sealant gook, slice it and unfold, dirty side (outer) up, on paper towels (weight the ends down so it lays out flat). For best results, walk away for 24 hours and then check it.The paper towel part is important because it pulls the oil out of the element, and any trash is apparent in the inner crease of the folds. Glen. -----Original Message----- From: Jason Ostrowski To: Tony and Annie Garmey Cc: fot Sent: Fri, Aug 22, 2014 3:54 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating While we are on the subject of cutting open the oil filter; A quick comment on this: (only because I have seen 2 people recently not look not far enough towards the center of the filter) The bad stuff (if it exists) is not seen until you go deep into the inner folds of the filter. Hope you see nothing. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Tony and Annie Garmey < horizonracing@msn.com> wrote: > You say overheat ! How hot ? First thing I'd do is look inside the oil > filter. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 22, 2014, at 10:51 AM, "Tony Drews" wrote: > > > > I've been thinking about this one. Nothing about overheating SHOULD > cause > the oil pressure change unless you managed to get water into the oil, I'd > think. I'd start with removing and cleaning the oil pressure relief valve > in > the oil filter head. If you get a piece of dirt holding that open, you'll > see > low pressure at idle. > > > > Of course the advice about "check the pressure gauge" is good too. > > > > Tony Drews > > > > At 08:30 PM 8/20/2014, damys@charter.net wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> I'm new to the group and hope I can get some advice. My son and I are > >> building a GT6 into a racer and need some help. We've had the engine > >> rebuilt with some mods. Ross pistons, WBC cam, roller rockers, head > >> shaved to approx. 10-1 compression, mild port job and balanced. > >> > >> At Elkhart last weekend we overheated the engine and now there is no oil > >> pressure at idle. The engine runs strong, no noise, and still has > >> pressure when cold. As the engine warms the pressure drops. > >> > >> I will add a heavier radiator cap and a shroud to direct air into the > >> stock style (aluminum) radiator. It's been suggested I shim the > >> pressure relief valve to increase overall oil pressure. > >> > >> Any advice on resolving the oil and temp problems. > >> > >> The engine easily turns 6500 RPM's but we have the MSD set at 6000. The > >> engine has approx. 1000 miles on it. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Dave Amys > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 22 15:09:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1212585867 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 15:09:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1DDF2584960 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 15:08:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.71]) by qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id hwiJ1o0061Y3wxoA8x9bFe; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 21:09:35 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-208v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.176.218]) by omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id hx7a1o00T4j68Km8bx7aNd; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 21:07:35 +0000 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 21:07:34 +0000 (UTC) From: toodamnfunky@comcast.net To: "Ostrowski, Jason" References: <1770f939.9d8e0.147f62f6d32.Webtop.49@charter.net> <20140822175048.5F8362585802@autox.team.net> (Win)/8.0.3_GA_5664) Thread-Topic: Low oil pressure after overheating Thread-Index: DqdviLN7UM9iadZjsYNyI2xWdBrteQ== s=q20140121; t=1408741775; bh=4FtUT9mf6nf5Pei7MivWFeLr/qTZX6EoO6BSfYo99GA=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=HsTx8fVvmYMVgPUAPKRBG5jIKllfgNpCfGN1n9yeVRt+RG5bvjqHpL4tJbwQxjbpb DYjanwUQoIRsBKAlfzVFz1tvDFcJWnhPOGO+0qsP86rgZT9nbgQPhhzi8MNdVWgB20 3OGfIetuL2OTAGGGoMjrbTdGabyn/WWrJyhzuCCzChvQGFw70LQRSbCGdoBXtIDjCe R47wZ9JJz1ge+N1Z06+3XOsXyDOEFmu3zfttD7CAse3Ubr6BaAETva7yEARgtKfDXe G0XFUdrQaNAKNCv8g3frC9jAxnlGpzUGinyCYQTxiTB+HllVPLkmt2gvvcEf5ekX4y TLbhuZ1Td+O5A== Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Since this thread drifted into oil filter inspections I though I'd mention K & P oil filters. ( no financial interest ) http://kandpengineering.com/ They are billet aluminum with removable/cleanable filter elements and they are FAA approved. I put in a clean filter element on Saturdays and again before the next race. They are also really handy when breaking motors in. just though I'd throw that out there, I haven't bought or cut open an oil filter in two years. jim g B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ostrowski, Jason" To: "Tony and Annie" Cc: "fot" Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 1:17:43 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating While we are on the subject of cutting open the oil filter; A quick comment on this: (only because I have seen 2 people recently not look not far enough towards the center of the filter) The bad stuff (if it exists) is not seen until you go deep into the inner folds of the filter. Hope you see nothing. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Tony and Annie Garmey < horizonracing@msn.com> wrote: > You say overheat ! How hot ? First thing I'd do is look inside the B oil > filter. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 22, 2014, at 10:51 AM, "Tony Drews" wrote: > > > > I've been thinking about this one. B Nothing about overheating SHOULD > cause > the oil pressure change unless you managed to get water into the oil, I'd > think. B I'd start with removing and cleaning the oil pressure relief valve > in > the oil filter head. B If you get a piece of dirt holding that open, you'll > see > low pressure at idle. > > > > Of course the advice about "check the pressure gauge" is good too. > > > > Tony Drews > > > > At 08:30 PM 8/20/2014, damys@charter.net wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> I'm new to the group and hope I can get some advice. B My son and I are > >> building a GT6 into a racer and need some help. B We've had the engine > >> rebuilt with some mods. B Ross pistons, WBC cam, roller rockers, head > >> shaved to approx. 10-1 compression, mild port job and balanced. > >> > >> At Elkhart last weekend we overheated the engine and now there is no oil > >> pressure at idle. B The engine runs strong, no noise, and still has > >> pressure when cold. B As the engine warms the pressure drops. > >> > >> I will add a heavier radiator cap and a shroud to direct air into the > >> stock style (aluminum) radiator. B It's been suggested I shim the > >> pressure relief valve to increase overall oil pressure. > >> > >> Any advice on resolving the oil and temp problems. > >> > >> The engine easily turns 6500 RPM's but we have the MSD set at 6000. B The > >> engine has approx. 1000 miles on it. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Dave Amys > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing@msn.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 22 16:42:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4EF125849E2 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:42:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC2S22.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s22.hotmail.com [65.55.111.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B802425844C8 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:41:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU437-SMTP80 ([65.55.111.73]) by BLU004-OMC2S22.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Fri, 22 Aug 2014 15:42:40 -0700 Received: from [10.108.138.217] ([184.151.61.89]) by BLU437-SMTP80.smtp.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(8.0.9200.16384); Fri, 22 Aug 2014 15:42:39 -0700 References: <1770f939.9d8e0.147f62f6d32.Webtop.49@charter.net> <20140822175031.160EA25857E6@autox.team.net> From: Vangoughv Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 18:42:37 -0400 To: Tony Drews FILETIME=[606F6180:01CFBE5A] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net What type and viscosity motor oil are you using? Newer Alloy style oil pump or a re-cored original cast type? Vince > On Aug 22, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > > I've been thinking about this one. Nothing about overheating SHOULD cause the oil pressure change unless you managed to get water into the oil, I'd think. I'd start with removing and cleaning the oil pressure relief valve in the oil filter head. If you get a piece of dirt holding that open, you'll see low pressure at idle. > > Of course the advice about "check the pressure gauge" is good too. > > Tony Drews > > At 08:30 PM 8/20/2014, damys@charter.net wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'm new to the group and hope I can get some advice. My son and I are >> building a GT6 into a racer and need some help. We've had the engine >> rebuilt with some mods. Ross pistons, WBC cam, roller rockers, head >> shaved to approx. 10-1 compression, mild port job and balanced. >> >> At Elkhart last weekend we overheated the engine and now there is no oil >> pressure at idle. The engine runs strong, no noise, and still has >> pressure when cold. As the engine warms the pressure drops. >> >> I will add a heavier radiator cap and a shroud to direct air into the >> stock style (aluminum) radiator. It's been suggested I shim the >> pressure relief valve to increase overall oil pressure. >> >> Any advice on resolving the oil and temp problems. >> >> The engine easily turns 6500 RPM's but we have the MSD set at 6000. The >> engine has approx. 1000 miles on it. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dave Amys >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 22 16:56:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4CF25849DB for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:56:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f173.google.com (mail-ie0-f173.google.com [209.85.223.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A38182584879 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:56:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id tr6so7223037ieb.4 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 15:57:03 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :references:in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:cc:from :date:content-type:mime-version; bh=7XlDaiPOQ5HcNUrMxrTeArOXcrSgGdvvIzzn57ynPi4=; b=PpjjtTtrDe1yzjgGC2ceQ2QA0Lx5ozGh1ZyfLoyRjVaInbNx69npTpgJQvp+6AmEQP 1jj7xo9KjLv1njrkjXgpAzmv2e2mE7HCzgedNq3Ug+psOjgm46CKPsuiCrUMpyq+XDGI sPTaNPpl1N4xwKCohp5wBNCJAeYg0Ry7mtym2CYqnXZ4bAx+HGmLsojDiTs2/IXjr5bW +JHAsvDMc892KduvMr1Fqk2yyR0Uq6l9/v08tKMIhbeT3VVszh93CXjZdbK7+Pw6Mf4e dpfE6Qp7JJulWFz8g9sFVTVNBK689TSG19yG4dKlqZx2G28dq4qwmuPZfnvvdgT4Sd7r oGaQ== pj10mr1484604igb.25.1408748223165; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 15:57:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.186 (bda-74-82-80-88.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.88]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ac2sm3157816igd.22.2014.08.22.15.57.02 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 22 Aug 2014 15:57:02 -0700 (PDT) References: <1770f939.9d8e0.147f62f6d32.Webtop.49@charter.net> <20140822175031.160EA25857E6@autox.team.net> Sensitivity: Normal To: "Vangoughv" ,"Fot" ,"Tony Drews" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 22:56:59 +0000 Cc: Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Vince, for the GT6... FGR runs only redline straight 50wt racing synthethic In all our race cars. We have been using this for years. Expensive yes! But don't argue with years of success in GT6 race motors. Zippy has run on this for many, many, years. In my opinion there is no substitute. Nfi, Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Vangoughv To: Tony Drews Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating What type and viscosity motor oil are you using? Newer Alloy style oil pump or a re-cored original cast type? Vince > On Aug 22, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > > I've been thinking about this one. Nothing about overheating SHOULD cause the oil pressure change unless you managed to get water into the oil, I'd think. I'd start with removing and cleaning the oil pressure relief valve in the oil filter head. If you get a piece of dirt holding that open, you'll see low pressure at idle. > > Of course the advice about "check the pressure gauge" is good too. > > Tony Drews > > At 08:30 PM 8/20/2014, damys@charter.net wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'm new to the group and hope I can get some advice. My son and I are >> building a GT6 into a racer and need some help. We've had the engine >> rebuilt with some mods. Ross pistons, WBC cam, roller rockers, head >> shaved to approx. 10-1 compression, mild port job and balanced. >> >> At Elkhart last weekend we overheated the engine and now there is no oil >> pressure at idle. The engine runs strong, no noise, and still has >> pressure when cold. As the engine warms the pressure drops. >> >> I will add a heavier radiator cap and a shroud to direct air into the >> stock style (aluminum) radiator. It's been suggested I shim the >> pressure relief valve to increase overall oil pressure. >> >> Any advice on resolving the oil and temp problems. >> >> The engine easily turns 6500 RPM's but we have the MSD set at 6000. The >> engine has approx. 1000 miles on it. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dave Amys >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 22 17:07:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6395025849FC for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:07:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BAY004-OMC2S16.hotmail.com (bay004-omc2s16.hotmail.com [65.54.190.91]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC56825849C5 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:07:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY406-EAS98 ([65.54.190.124]) by BAY004-OMC2S16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:07:44 -0700 From: Rich Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 19:08:29 -0400 To: "cudapilot@comcast.net" , "fot@autox.team.net" FILETIME=[E1BFC0B0:01CFBE5D] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] VSCDA Pictures Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net These are not mere pictures. This is what I consider photography. Thanks! Rich Rock Sent: 8/21/2014 5:36 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] VSCDA Pictures Amici- I am finally getting around to clearing off some SD cards and have uploaded some FOT shots from various VSCDA events on Flickr.B More to come. B https://www.flickr.com/photos/41116744@N05/sets/72157646625162282/ B Brian Garcia Friendly Ghost Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rikrock@live.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 22 18:19:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EAE92584A2E for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 18:19:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A8A25803F4 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 18:18:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20140823001933.LEJX9941.mta21.charter.net@imp09> for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 20:19:33 -0400 Received: from mtaout001.msg.strl.va.charter.net ([68.114.190.26]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id i0KZ1o0080adFl8050KZf6; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 20:19:33 -0400 Received: from impout006 ([68.114.189.21]) by mtaout001.msg.strl.va.charter.net (InterMail vM.9.00.010.00 201-2473-137) with ESMTP id <20140823001933.XCRX17428.mtaout001.msg.strl.va.charter.net@impout006> for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 19:19:33 -0500 Received: from wt07 ([209.225.8.57]) by impout006 with charter.net id i0KZ1o00E1Dq0wp010KZFA; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 19:19:33 -0500 a=urPwiOiMannvafTwzIAh5w==:117 a=urPwiOiMannvafTwzIAh5w==:17 a=DjgljUQ80_UA:10 a=hERrV8vSad4A:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=YJxmFB8jQkYA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=kJL49kR3KwFUv2mrtPsA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=KjnrS0w5v_YtNHcffCAA:9 a=ipHZRw84_3slCx_w:21 Received: from [68.115.89.35] by enhanced.charter.net with HTTP; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 20:19:33 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 20:19:33 -0400 (EDT) From: damys@charter.net To: fot@autox.team.net User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Subject: [Fot] Overheat and low oil pressure Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net First, let me tell everyone who chimed in that I am amazed at the support that this group offers to newbie group members. My son and I want to thank all who have tried to help us resolve our low oil problem. Today I tested the 4421 Autometer gauge against a Lange pressure tester to see if the gauge was the problem. I started the engine (cold) and recorded pressures at different RPM's. The Autometer showed 22lbs at 1000RPM's, then I revved to 2000R's and the gauge showed 76lbs for a second and then dropped hard to below 50lbs. That was odd. Next I removed the pressure line from the block and installed the Lange gauge. At 1000 R's it showed 20LBs, at 2000 it showed 55, and at 3000 it showed 90lbs. I can't test the motor hot because we also fried the alternator last weekend and it's in getting rebuilt. No belt to the water pump. Then I pulled the oil filter and cut the can off. I did notice a very few specks of metal in the filter folds in the bottom of the element. The engine has less than 1000 miles on it. Changed the oil (Brad Penn 20W-50) before we went to Elkhart. I think we're OK. We will put in a bigger radiator, install a oil cooler and properly shroud both. Will test with the engine hot when the alt comes back. Thanks again for all of your help. Dave Amys _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 23 21:22:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B305125848EF for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 21:22:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f179.google.com (mail-wi0-f179.google.com [209.85.212.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F5DD2580499 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 21:21:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f179.google.com with SMTP id f8so1148000wiw.12 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 20:22:21 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CEW+0Xh+6Ejy5fQ7Lgi6vBo3dPwEgH6Hsx+3iqUbMxc=; b=mtMsTxN6BM44MG9syKctxysYJTghmIRomjeFZFjEc5q49DYHy8PAy0j/NDUqqpmD7G w999MLSyNRMdVFOyWwr1kSbt/R3aGpAScjgsHv0KQSHMcNEAcbRjUE4HTuj8wJpXhEg3 ptoa7IqYFnz3N3zLn1hrIdruuSiU42sNJ6gxzp5kPaHDa4aDkm7OBOG1j6uLQzI58xHn KlVlpZAJKqGv1m+yhVmJBAQk7OjJKeDRfTnMRFuLMLjsJbKv+8VqrgnZiUSRdm5qTSu3 B/cmbJd6WaiGDeVVTiKUgxeg08tQGkBoSDFAF6HjpdTujvffqY/HRL2qVtXvlm+RYv0D WvKw== e10mr596306wix.7.1408850540876; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 20:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.105.162 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 20:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 22:22:20 -0500 From: McKearn McKearn To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi. I'm looking to improve the brakes on My GT6. I currently have stock brakes with nothing special pads. Dual master cylinders with 5/8 pistons and balance bar. Rotors are drilled . The car will stop but It seams like it takes some serious pedal pressure and if you want to stop NOW you have to push with all you've got. I think the balance is pretty close as the fronts will lock up first but I just feel like something's missing in the brake department. This is a street car (for now) I have considered ceramic pads but really don't know if that would help or not. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. P.J. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 23 21:32:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA402584A43 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 21:32:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm48-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm48-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448FB2584938 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 21:32:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.151] by nm48.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Aug 2014 03:32:51 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.196] by tm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Aug 2014 03:32:50 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Aug 2014 03:32:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 42847 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Aug 2014 03:32:50 -0000 s=s1024; t=1408851170; bh=io9/pC2raA9P4lL8d1Dv0RZj9Yu1cPYP+W0DyjK0ObE=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Eo8cp+m+GMFlVGcXk3rKv0hdtLJ6auVGWxkQY+cceeQO/XzRlpfdDN5UDyZFgl9zSUyDCrngdlgVHoeLWMBjs1LZO6EzSDTEqogIJr4sO4+PAg44KLIv1Q0HpmAQ8x0+HPw0wTUpqm3LNPnyQaH4S0KKAQ7IG1vdFD0Plb0Mn7A= H8YXMgLUY3UigWamwKLBI7ZcY1qIi3m.8hi9xy.m3n93wftV_HezqEr31mEi 6jlMHi5ZNcnrHkgdnsFCsY_DNpOelPgJBMtZa_hMUnEkrCkpJ_fD8fOty51z 0Nw537rdyrVFHYOkzr6ruicuTKFC9pJL.TGEAs1kZXkYX8z9P46kK06txm2s RcBBm_6GSKXCpJH0D_atfZRP7fe1gnBTyBcixBZNy_b7OgU5BHEcroUUvsii kgAUdqR3pLOeq1MD.x8DknotdLmL5WFLKgsnQsiiQ4O_95eSDf1MYk831jd4 4Cz4JXdFV2Jd8LdzZreVeAiftC2Nx2lkp6nIH69eE5OKORUdXuHE9gaM2gzk yxbLIcE6Ipc6V5zrf3aiA_BrmrKBBR49gM_WkNS_6snqG0sr5EgKU1jGQi.. yS37xTABx5zZqp_PS_0T183peoNhoZFUHdC9VNyAYulKLWf9YRPgJg33IO43 jzxgvuhlBfT.HL4us.OC_r5Hz8Firze4NMZ8U.fK6vhd4nbHKrLo- Received: from [66.195.82.222] by web160902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 20:32:50 PDT SSBob3BlIEppbSBkb2VzIG5vdCBtaW5kIG1lIHNlbmRpbmcgdGhpcyBvdXQgYnV0IEkgZmlndXJlZCB0aGUgRk9UIGNyZXcgd291bGQgbGlrZSB0byBzZW5kIGhpbSBnZXQgd2VsbCB3aXNoZXMuwqAgSSBzdG9wcGVkIGJ5IGhpcyBwaXQgYXQgUG9ydGxhbmQgdG9kYXkgZm9yIHRoZSBTQ0NBIHJlZ2lvbmFsIHJhY2VzIGFuZCBsZWFybmVkIHRoYXQgaGUgd2VudCB0byB0aGUgaG9zcGl0YWwgZm9yIHNvbWUgZm9vZCB0aGF0IGdvdCBsb2RnZWQgaW4gaGlzIGVzb3BoYWd1cyBhbmQgdGhlIGRvY3RvciBwaWVyY2UBMAEBAQE- Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 20:32:50 -0700 From: Mike Mehl To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] Jim Norlin update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I hope Jim does not mind me sending this out but I figured the FOT crew would like to send him get well wishes. I stopped by his pit at Portland today for the SCCA regional races and learned that he went to the hospital for some food that got lodged in his esophagus and the doctor pierced it while scoping him. Get well soon Jim! Mike Mehl #46 TR4 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 23 22:31:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E9B25848B0 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 22:31:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70042580691 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 22:31:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.73]) by qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iUWE1o0031afHeLA7UYTQW; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 04:32:27 +0000 Received: from locutus ([50.170.163.20]) by omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iUYS1o0060Sj6Ay8dUYTKk; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 04:32:27 +0000 From: "Jim Gray" To: "'McKearn McKearn'" , Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 22:35:34 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac+/SskiwP7xUNVITbWMEOPp0/5uvAACYGaw s=q20140121; t=1408854747; bh=npCu/HdP6qUt75HqTUd1IjfM7NJsH/V/tDd52kjK8Rg=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bwVmmbTJKntTPVf5+qZzl9MK801+ZjiC6qKitLQtR+KygKwBM9/uUIlOqXGj51X0I +WJliMLVEqbs4rzW0dgpGeV+lEV5GYgLLmwR+SVT5rCaxAm6OXsWr94JzxDPUInlbI PtrCwMk31syiM9M69ZXtu3H0e/Ms9DKofqlojWy+Tghv/bTMCb+2nKHlhwRd6l9LgF AFfBjToAu5ILZcBftllwOqpxkVfc7fcLXW9fsg8kbyc7i8J0M47X2L5K3a3F/jhZmk PnFvXrfMUXRB0EjHfU6oUi6YohIB9gKrOsG8nRvUy7oQMqZkZvESD/hyIp0EX+qEB7 Dl8Qq/pgvBgGg== Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net PJ, With 5/8" masters you should be getting enough line pressure. Maybe deglaze the rotors and drums and get some pads with some real bite. Ken Knight turned me on to Carbotech brakes and the car stops better than ever. jim g -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of McKearn McKearn Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:22 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. Hi. I'm looking to improve the brakes on My GT6. I currently have stock brakes with nothing special pads. Dual master cylinders with 5/8 pistons and balance bar. Rotors are drilled . The car will stop but It seams like it takes some serious pedal pressure and if you want to stop NOW you have to push with all you've got. I think the balance is pretty close as the fronts will lock up first but I just feel like something's missing in the brake department. This is a street car (for now) I have considered ceramic pads but really don't know if that would help or not. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. P.J. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 24 00:01:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681E62584533 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 00:01:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB74D258068A for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 00:01:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E67BF2C01AE for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 00:02:11 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 00:02:09 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: fot@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Late night foggy memory, but as I recall looking for GT6 pads is pretty limited. But Datsun 240Z pads are almost a direct replacement, I think the retaining pin holes need to be reamed out a hair. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 24 06:17:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D4025809E2 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 06:17:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D2F258092C for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 06:17:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.22.77]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0NAT00LK48TZDH50@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 07:18:00 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "McKearn McKearn" , References: Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 08:17:59 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi All. I've been told that going to larger MC's will lessen the pedal pressure but require a litttle more pedal travel. I use 5/8 masters and it does take some pedal pressure. I can adjust the pushrod position on my Good dual MC setup to change the required pedal pressure. Porterfield pads work very well. Good luck, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "McKearn McKearn" To: Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 11:22 PM Subject: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. > Hi. > I'm looking to improve the brakes on My GT6. I currently have stock > brakes with nothing special pads. Dual master cylinders with 5/8 pistons > and balance bar. Rotors are drilled . The car will stop but It seams like > it takes some serious pedal pressure and if you want to stop NOW you have > to push with all you've got. I think the balance is pretty close as the > fronts will lock up first but I just feel like something's missing in the > brake department. This is a street car (for now) I have considered ceramic > pads but really don't know if that would help or not. Any suggestions > would > be appreciated. > Thanks. P.J. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 24 07:23:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D7E2584554 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 07:23:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEDDC258046A for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 07:22:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.148.60.115] ([98.148.60.115:55006] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 87/AA-24565-B47E9F35; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 13:23:24 +0000 From: "Randall" To: Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 06:23:24 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac+/lYRwI0ZShaeeR8Kbo4TU9OIVHAAB8z8g Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > I've been told that going to larger MC's will lessen the > pedal pressure but > require a litttle more pedal travel. It's the other way around. Larger MC means more pedal pressure and less travel. > I have considered ceramic > > pads but really don't know if that would help or not. I had a similar problem with my street TR3A many years ago. The replacement pads required a lot more effort and did not inspire confidence (the ones I was replacing probably had asbestos in them). I had Ted S. reline both pads and shoes with his "Kevlar" material and was very pleased with the result. NFI, YMMV, etc Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 24 07:34:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994252584553 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 07:34:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f45.google.com (mail-oa0-f45.google.com [209.85.219.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C2F2584453 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 07:33:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id i7so10037341oag.18 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 06:34:39 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fIPG5fcZIDVJXlhR1axoQlGuzbwINsc3GSGBCXEaUdw=; b=VrEdpdwt3UAclLNLkS7CkkKeXoxb9NUJDJfAJTnMuRfEUyEFBdtwOCOOm6Nd+i1B2T 18ZtK8H0T7SohdsizuYodcEoh8MW7ZxBQp2wHHtH8XLL/1BCFJKvWl4U7jALwJ3sQDBU YXRvmkdig08cO+cTKQzsDt6C/j46pUNzTVFz7KPnXEUAu9LE9GU21NXBScBX7A21MnT6 Nw2EUoJ4FdQpbljTao+sQVqEHZwjyfKBrwlChBcbFMLRtrfvMZZ5X2g6MOfmS18bvoWK k2MDCLoyRAGnVYgXGQ1vlWws6NqpUKSdeoKguzbau2RpzTac5N8gByu0oyuT6QVN2IDa nKpA== du8mr1010850oeb.74.1408887279267; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 06:34:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Duncans-MacBook-Pro.local (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id pa1sm38575166obb.1.2014.08.24.06.34.38 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 24 Aug 2014 06:34:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 08:34:38 -0500 From: Duncan Charlton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: FOT List References: <53F9E996.1010809@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net P. J. Glazed pads or rotors can increase pedal pressure, so make sure that's not the issue -- you could remove the pads, clean them up, and lightly sand the rotors/drums. Kas' book mentions putting a pad in a wooden holder, chucking an end cutting tool (like a router bit) in a drill press, and sliding the pad around under the bit, exposing new material while leveling out the pad thickness (in his case, done to decrease initial pedal play rather than improve brake effectiveness, but I can't see why you couldn't use that technique to try to rescue a set of used pads with a lot of meat left on them). If the stock brake pads have been overheated or the pads/shoes are contaminated, pedal pressure can go up. Due to the dual master cylinder setup, leverage may have changed, so changing pad friction compound may be the easiest to improve things. I had a street VW R32 with which I wanted to do some track work with so I replaced the stock pads with Hawk HPS street high performance pads and those, once heated up, would haul the car down like I had an additional brake booster. As the car slowed from high speed, retardation rate would continue to increase without any increase in pedal pressure. They have an elaborate break-in procedure that you must follow to get best results, by the way. However, they produced a bit of black brake dust and squealed if lightly used when cold, so they're not my choice for a car that's mostly street driven. I'll also second the suggestion of Porterfields. I used their RD-4 vintage racing compound on the Morgan race car and, similarly to the Hawk material, they really had good bite when they heated up. Porterfield will make you what you want if they don't have them in stock -- you might have to send them an old brake pad. Friends have used RS-4 on street vehicles and have reported lower pedal pressure to the point where some felt they could remove the brake booster without having unacceptable pedal pressure. Lastly, if someone has swapped from DOT 4 to DOT 5 or vice versa, mixing the two can cause the brake fluid to get very viscous. A friend of mine mixed the two inadvertently when trying to limp home from a weekend event using a donated bottle of brake fluid to continually top off the reservoir level, which kept dropping due to a small leak in a brake line. I tried to stop his car after it had been repaired and no amount of force applied by a human would stop that car adequately. He described the stuff that he bled out as having a consistency of silly putty. The system had to be disassembled and cleaned with alcohol to remove all old brake fluid. (I'm afraid I have to disagree with Bill T. -- smaller master cylinders will reduce pedal pressure at the expense of more pedal travel (greater number of inches of MC piston stroke per unit of fluid moved -- and therefore less work done per inch of stroke -- is equivalent to pushing on a longer lever, mechanically speaking), so I don't think you want to go with bigger. Duncan On 8/23/14, 10:22 PM, McKearn McKearn wrote: > Hi. > I'm looking to improve the brakes on My GT6. I currently have stock > brakes with nothing special pads. Dual master cylinders with 5/8 pistons > and balance bar. Rotors are drilled . The car will stop but It seams like > it takes some serious pedal pressure and if you want to stop NOW you have > to push with all you've got. I think the balance is pretty close as the > fronts will lock up first but I just feel like something's missing in the > brake department. This is a street car (for now) I have considered ceramic > pads but really don't know if that would help or not. Any suggestions would > be appreciated. > Thanks. P.J. > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 24 07:43:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F792584572 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 07:43:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f177.google.com (mail-ie0-f177.google.com [209.85.223.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C382584520 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 07:43:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f177.google.com with SMTP id at20so8546354iec.36 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 06:43:47 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :references:in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date :content-type:mime-version; bh=7qsmbLDknc7YnEOXxWx9hZfEG6pvL/wXLn++e37RhNY=; b=aKoRI4Jeo9nUqEpREQbctCC2bTHtPDD5EjQiNqCF75RLQQzxYDoEtZDIbzzQxx1DSx PTsfqcI6KOVqV5/EaOCGbk+h08YnA45GG8uojRRNL2KPdm+iOFO0yrJhGISj2BbU+VVB tb33N/8g/jr6IwFVncoQeRzBZlmiYh2HcrAmP+7JN1SzCde+rmk1H9dbm0d4WUAUoaPj OBLsEF43VfQCAftzgGc3QMoA8tdqRZNSoW67f6Je5evYH5YyW3m8rC/TaXNsWfihep3D e+LLmvYESO4XxEyEmzbqp4CgoaLWCFkRP9aYy8SEwx9ZmzRZ4/dslUYZ4PudVm+j6Ru2 bsHg== wh11mr1379182icb.54.1408887827014; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 06:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.186 (bda-74-82-80-88.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.88]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f18sm24731710igz.0.2014.08.24.06.43.46 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 24 Aug 2014 06:43:46 -0700 (PDT) References: Sensitivity: Normal To: "McKearn McKearn" ,"Fot" ,"Fot" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 13:43:42 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net P.J. I have said before that the stock GT6 brake setup is about as good as you can get even for a race car or a hot street car. I agree with the wisdom here, in that your issue is likely related to glazed or inferior bads. The race pad options need to get really hot to work well and would not be great for the street in my opinion. As already suggested Ted should have a pad that will work just fine. Some time spent with the pads you have might be a free fix. No need to change any of your other components. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: McKearn McKearn To: Subject: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. Hi. I'm looking to improve the brakes on My GT6. I currently have stock brakes with nothing special pads. Dual master cylinders with 5/8 pistons and balance bar. Rotors are drilled . The car will stop but It seams like it takes some serious pedal pressure and if you want to stop NOW you have to push with all you've got. I think the balance is pretty close as the fronts will lock up first but I just feel like something's missing in the brake department. This is a street car (for now) I have considered ceramic pads but really don't know if that would help or not. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. P.J. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 24 07:57:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5849B258468E for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 07:57:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p02c11o145.mxlogic.net (p02c11o145.mxlogic.net [208.65.144.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E492584520 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 07:56:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO ATLPEXCAS03.xc.lan) by p02c11o145.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.1.0-0) with ESMTP id d3fe9f35.2af7189ff940.16085.00-583.36027.p02c11o145.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Sun, 24 Aug 2014 07:57:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO ATLPEXCAS03.xc.lan) by p02c11o145.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.1.0-0) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id 73fe9f35.0.16078.00-396.36005.p02c11o145.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Sun, 24 Aug 2014 07:57:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::c824:a29e:45a5:b81c]) by ATLPEXCAS03.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0181.006; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 09:57:10 -0400 From: John Hasty To: Randall Thread-Topic: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. Thread-Index: AQHPv0rG1cCoiFjyn0uPGUYCIO1S55vfrHfRgABVKwD//8ZiTQ== Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 13:57:10 +0000 References: , <87.AA.24565.B47E9F35@cdptpa-oedge01> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US a=VR8QHrWKYhK80xkEBGCjUg==] a=DXt] a=xqWC_Br] a=ayC55rCoAAAA:] a=nIrT_kbPGR9AGmRho-YA] a] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Right....we use 1" dual MC with Carbotec auto cross compound pads. No travel, lots of pressure, but the 3 stops. Wouldn't use for the street Sent from my iPhone On Aug 24, 2014, at 9:23 AM, "Randall" wrote: >> I've been told that going to larger MC's will lessen the >> pedal pressure but >> require a litttle more pedal travel. > > It's the other way around. Larger MC means more pedal pressure and less travel. > > >> I have considered ceramic >>> pads but really don't know if that would help or not. > > I had a similar problem with my street TR3A many years ago. The replacement pads required a lot more effort and did not inspire > confidence (the ones I was replacing probably had asbestos in them). I had Ted S. reline both pads and shoes with his "Kevlar" > material and was very pleased with the result. > > NFI, YMMV, etc > > Randall > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 24 08:48:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A420D25848FE for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 08:48:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m06.mx.aol.com (omr-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49739258452F for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 08:48:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aam01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aam01.mx.aol.com [172.27.19.147]) by omr-m06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 670AE7000009E for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 10:49:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mlc001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mlc001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.207]) by mtaomg-aam01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 2E82C380000E8 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 10:49:05 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 10:49:05 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1408891745; bh=ceNzchaxPwf+LOcOx4GnSXxAfugCR+y/5THpIly+FBc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0aRYclZV0ujE0TEOpybvkebRD6YnIMCfZrmqxnLFBdrzJnBJo9StbnhEzxinYit5q A4ynba+Ak+2VWxW1rMfDMcwAHhiCWwbdyxji+VxQYcmn7+o3KLywLKjiiqn/477tJp H9itkNkBsNjDI00FbnkLW+7Cn2ZhbrQITpnKIaTY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b139353f9fb6111e5 Subject: [Fot] GRATTAN Raceway... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici... I received an email from Dave Kettler, who is helping run an SCCA event at Grattan Raceway this week end. Dave's been to a ton of race tracks around the country, but this was his first trip to Grattan. He got to be a passenger in the pace car for the Production Car race yesterday, and was totally impressed with the challenges that Grattan provides. Incidentally, while we had a bunch of TRIUMPHs at Grattan Raceway last week end, there is only one there this week end. But when that TRIUMPH is Sam Halkias...one is enough. He got around a 240Z to win the Prod Race. HOORAY four our side! Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 24 10:13:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F06232584B22 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 10:13:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm3-vm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm3-vm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.99]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A9325807A9 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 10:13:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.156] by nm3.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Aug 2014 16:13:59 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.153] by tm2.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Aug 2014 16:13:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1029.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Aug 2014 16:13:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 6876 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Aug 2014 16:13:58 -0000 s=s1024; t=1408896838; bh=Lg4zTpik/W9VetXqQeHSixUVi3Xvw6t9s12S5fwQwys=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bCIsIdNUVuCM3KjEtwNIrEgIJR91GzHK3T3JaBVxR7aTXw/qF4N4+OAciKMq7YzQ44r0ET1hduhvyZjfwyCzj2VoaJ47cUP46G4CfIIxwrApUgvnl01yESJdhPVdgs2T2/rIqnCoYLzUOD391i6rx55c6AQsfqNNWWhq3cNaUV8= Xclw2CqCgwlJHfdGLHFFUi1tduXBBHw15mFvgTpVG3u8uUj1prfMEAmntM8r MMmditK6eILNi0um_W4.Kn_kqlrMUBNEXURUgSKcb70pVWqbATnz_3QOzA18 Ky_clHaTn8iqjj2J3IWKKPgT6xS.ESk6d6Gyn9.RSXEW9kMM1ooKp.LZICrI k4RWwUZR_j2aZDh6HCCR5CCr1w3z3toxVqrMCbvkW1XpEB_jnkOwQgU7ihCD DoTd0SjQgHHc0qqJNHQpEk40lAWLWAsEuSMILb7XyoXizW.l0BFDg6zwsAJ. 66474ID6ZxaXGD0XFvSW7ecVemk7QHndwTSrXc3D4Y9Y9JLuZFlG4skYZtGN v2tUXT.I2VIrHdZMnkH0yylYBGodLwqDXQZ_tlmqSh15tI_ogXZDwimM.C2z pCSKV5NXrI5MKIe.SI12tfA4fhF9D.cK9i7DFIyfCCox1tRrb5s_JycSdURK KJK_B8HKQiAAyHSk9uzNepjzgGY5NxOL.TyVcWK8qPUAtiJYH92nLPN2qMYz k182iLdQCxg0GAQR3yOf1VQ_TshpKT.6j1qLt7AF_VWpT8cikn3hifHjlk8L bO2iII3dfp9ATmtW30kot Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web184706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 09:13:58 PDT R1Q2IHNob3VsZCBiZSB0aGUgc2FtZSBhcyBUUjYgcGFkcy4gdGhleSBib3RoIHVzZSB0aGUgMTZQIGNhbGlwZXIgd2l0aCAxLzQiIHBpbnMuIFRoZSBsYXRlciAxNlBCIGNhbGlwZXJzIGNhbiBiZSBmaXR0ZWQgd2hpY2ggaGF2ZSB0aGUgbGF0ZXIgc2VhbCBhbmQgc21hbGxlciAzLzE2IiBwaW5zLgotRWQtIAoKCk9uIFN1bmRheSwgQXVndXN0IDI0LCAyMDE0IDE6MDIgQU0sIE1hcmsgSiBCcmFkYWtpcyA8bWFya0BicmFkYWtpcy5jb20.IHdyb3RlOgogIAoKCkxhdGUgbmlnaHQgZm9nZ3kgbWVtb3J5LCBidXQBMAEBAQE- References: <53F97FE1.7000000@bradakis.com> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 09:13:58 -0700 From: EDWARD BARNARD To: Mark J Bradakis , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net GT6 should be the same as TR6 pads. they both use the 16P caliper with 1/4" pins. The later 16PB calipers can be fitted which have the later seal and smaller 3/16" pins. -Ed- On Sunday, August 24, 2014 1:02 AM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: Late night foggy memory, but as I recall looking for GT6 pads is pretty limited. But Datsun 240Z pads are almost a direct replacement, I think the retaining pin holes need to be reamed out a hair. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 24 11:28:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D75E2580881 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 11:28:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f170.google.com (mail-wi0-f170.google.com [209.85.212.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1937225807AE for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 11:25:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f170.google.com with SMTP id f8so2796445wiw.3 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 10:26:22 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=TQ19OhyomX5uV4Wo3yopoLisUQqr6s5vbmUbFS426WU=; b=coALfdqP3qYvigVmo6dBWgypy+cKp07VleKQNMXWCeO+RJH3foUeu+LGJOpnTqmRAB zqS0AQtLiVTH5QY8fua7WJO0/PS3uzKQlp9YTP51i5fR5oINDC0x/t8Mkd5MxyEe+eMI nwCGu667HNufGEfGN3tVcCN9/2JbVNrO7CbdLokyJllgfV6ywgpTwK9iipRB/SAlM20t tw1Nh60x/5NCVmviwebFM0gmo+Cpd9oifyMoP+b+XIQBGc0tAN/+nIo+iO4FoOjdnA+m sR9f+WfL6frjwt1adYcIbySQHQ6pwU+AWg6Ax9UlcCkAOpRtKswALKJDIzRHxlkcmv7X 12CA== ej4mr10175130wic.77.1408901182807; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 10:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.105.162 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 10:26:22 -0700 (PDT) References: <53f96adc.4164460a.507a.201cSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 12:26:22 -0500 From: McKearn McKearn To: Jim Gray Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi All. Thanks for the ideas. So it sounds like pads are the issue. I'll try skimming a bit off the pads but I'm afraid that as soon as they get hot I'll have the same problem again. Last time when I put new pads on the car it stopped pretty well till I made my first hard stop. I smelled burning pad and that was that. I don't want racing pads for the street but I love those curvy country roads. I think I need something in between race and street. What about the 240Z pads? Thanks. P.J. On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 11:35 PM, Jim Gray wrote: > PJ, > With 5/8" masters you should be getting enough line pressure. Maybe deglaze > the rotors and drums and get some pads with some real bite. > Ken Knight turned me on to Carbotech brakes and the car stops better than > ever. > jim g > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of McKearn McKearn > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:22 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. > > Hi. > I'm looking to improve the brakes on My GT6. I currently have stock > brakes with nothing special pads. Dual master cylinders with 5/8 pistons > and balance bar. Rotors are drilled . The car will stop but It seams like > it takes some serious pedal pressure and if you want to stop NOW you have > to push with all you've got. I think the balance is pretty close as the > fronts will lock up first but I just feel like something's missing in the > brake department. This is a street car (for now) I have considered ceramic > pads but really don't know if that would help or not. Any suggestions would > be appreciated. > Thanks. P.J. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 24 11:48:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 602B725845BD for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 11:48:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm24-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.246]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD7125807B5 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 11:48:21 -0600 (MDT) s=s2048; t=1408902543; bh=duOWK4OY5HS3e/RfCJF2DW2HG8lYI13QnDjP71muFOo=; b=Uo+ndEzdpLpLi0WSVVes2eaXB3TG13dMMS0Hq7iu4Cz+EjHJm2xH4RG/ag3V6KujQzCYPdn6TMObqIU9l+9lsgpvFUXlUDcGeglSXxdAbUNsJrTViERu3W8QBYQlI0pxUAapUzVMDpMLK3vfmDzj41f+8BUrCCviX22T53LhjuiFtOemjMgnTLdtLHcefEztyeNMMGkHWe7j8OcB5BfcU+FvxEWqkc+SO9dKqLUC8cRJ5nrdqfSpRC9L9CiGVvGLc+uW4L+5uc/OkvQYz1j11qVYwESAQGYY3NPgLWhx7dg9+SV8NPMR5XUbbOWrz9cIsiCklJrHTgpNRIOm1FRlUg== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=dC9LLlYETMctrhmafJ903up9/M4s6WhD2aQwMWRogKKHZ0ZFe+8F3FogeoiSxuirpmXH8vo7ALwa5QqfiwotCqAv3qp1EpnMDtii/XjGrf9zw2Wyo1OIq0lxpXwnvWrJDjtP3tpwb88N+CsKss7zJyoDT5MqzsTbwW9gvzSAGkz7fvVmkTI71wCjGpbhRs4zTz2Z0TK7bS5NxXwlaTJjWLUn+mXTOcGtRWaVrdbTaRgCLhggo5ZHFZfr2nt/hgISMOcgRQyBTzp+zILRPVRQbfG4LGgulcmwnh4iwv7im3ZSx0D5j379QPcFdY6YCKd8G6+yNWk57pZnMZUX6JteBQ==; Received: from [98.138.101.130] by nm24.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Aug 2014 17:49:03 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.59] by tm18.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Aug 2014 17:49:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp210.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Aug 2014 17:49:03 -0000 s=s1024; t=1408902543; bh=duOWK4OY5HS3e/RfCJF2DW2HG8lYI13QnDjP71muFOo=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Message-ID:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:MIME-Version:To:Cc:From:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type; b=SDQBqr69SLK/jSkyPaPMTOUwb17JxzMZMOC2lwSJgxCWLs+SZxiLgth+qDiQEuiX626wSbjvER3xnysTWgPgFGFpZPCQWO8xHeBqTJ0Tzat/dlNTUIRDNi+eQywG0XWlxUtpgFBP3mW+ndxarLUlNn90Yg//y+f974mACPx/Xd8= RtlTdkI6loq4CiOVM0yoy5L8Er.rnSOKHV_LdF7wmQ7mXztrwZwpZn_sHleb KBXjzxeSe0HySccFUJ_HXCDXBbiOtpUQFIp_T3FW0wiM5MXg.A4tOMotDNmY lB56365iMib4R32PqFXsd59bWxh2N.HUmrfxXNsIH2Sixe3ii7M8hBHnUdPn uSQY6yHkx8KVEfojJ_DpFWg7fRE4Ienwj8JX9rwNKlh_yAgTEPTjOsf3zzm7 FBBhkHmLO7BC74UtW6iEPtJzLDBzuOmeTwwyB044cyqSFkM26Ooic62WQytG c9V1YkH58OO2Kjfm.L6hg1MJDLHZtd12.5TSDiCxViVcDonjTQdoPGSYubdU iJPo_5.Yl9.VX3qwo3la5gqXkiZLQJQMlGYF_X1oNs0IuOnnygl8XaVM2QwF 3IDaw9E8h60Fjhsu1v5tfo9eVPr.gpTNIOuNxJ.DulgRGJmnmAVkZKJn1GkK IHyFU7N.Pu60wrTuWEQT2KBh57hvG8OYfuytG3Kb2OnTmEY.U.09a9SKi4hX gK1eN2cypIhxqJ1nJqj5SiUASFxzwR7FdrA4uyoWm9Tw- To: McKearn McKearn , Jim Gray From: Brian Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 13:48:38 -0400 References: <53f96adc.4164460a.507a.201cSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've had good luck with green stuff pads in my hill climb spitsix. I use more brake on the bring down than the race uphill. They have good cold bite and stay pretty consistent when hot on the bring down including MT Washington 7 miles down hill without stopping until the base. Oh, I run all factory gt6 brakes except 5\8 rear whl cyl and drilled stock rotors. Good luck. Brian -----Original Message----- From: "McKearn McKearn" Sent: b8/b24/b2014 1:29 PM To: "Jim Gray" Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. Hi All. Thanks for the ideas. So it sounds like pads are the issue. I'll try skimming a bit off the pads but I'm afraid that as soon as they get hot I'll have the same problem again. Last time when I put new pads on the car it stopped pretty well till I made my first hard stop. I smelled burning pad and that was that. I don't want racing pads for the street but I love those curvy country roads. I think I need something in between race and street. What about the 240Z pads? Thanks. P.J. On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 11:35 PM, Jim Gray wrote: > PJ, > With 5/8" masters you should be getting enough line pressure. Maybe deglaze > the rotors and drums and get some pads with some real bite. > Ken Knight turned me on to Carbotech brakes and the car stops better than > ever. > jim g > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of McKearn McKearn > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:22 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. > > Hi. > I'm looking to improve the brakes on My GT6. I currently have stock > brakes with nothing special pads. Dual master cylinders with 5/8 pistons > and balance bar. Rotors are drilled . The car will stop but It seams like > it takes some serious pedal pressure and if you want to stop NOW you have > to push with all you've got. I think the balance is pretty close as the > fronts will lock up first but I just feel like something's missing in the > brake department. This is a street car (for now) I have considered ceramic > pads but really don't know if that would help or not. Any suggestions would > be appreciated. > Thanks. P.J. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britracer89@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 24 12:13:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD472584D15 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 12:13:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f54.google.com (mail-oa0-f54.google.com [209.85.219.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A0F2584C06 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 12:11:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id n16so10029410oag.41 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 11:12:20 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=i6HOmtBXVBZhD7sVakPUNbxLS3qiF5L+EThih8UGZaM=; b=q1FmOhSARwcSBH05J6lamtBeZjyM6zVziq7oNt8IYXEChZIW87GZQh5HoHXo7TgcsD WDn+d34HgowFP8VFLRqTaRGiH+0xrugAFhNf96TKIZNVv/tmB3P+mqd+pajKc/S8VCn6 OOBubjbqHPPmH39I6rNtuaNGcPPpWJOCBpa8QQ07heuzIrCvFh7b0YWd3Mue1SWrWEY8 IDnx2qqbPGPn/N7TR4WvqlYD/CLkjzLMlmAl06EszjBFZCaBDLiUpylf10lMX8jUSLl9 xzftgQVIh1CAlDTsR4vDscTNJ3Lig00vNh5wiSKi+xRg/hnTjfPoRQKu1BybqIBOyp3j eaEQ== j7mr17461097oef.20.1408903940382; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 11:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Duncans-MacBook-Pro.local (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id df10sm52448383oec.1.2014.08.24.11.12.19 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 24 Aug 2014 11:12:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 13:12:19 -0500 From: Duncan Charlton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <53f96adc.4164460a.507a.201cSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net P. J. -- be sure to check the manufacturer's recommendations for break-in procedure for those pads and be sure to follow it if you're going to skim them and try again with the same pads. Duncan On 8/24/14, 12:26 PM, McKearn McKearn wrote: > Hi All. > Thanks for the ideas. So it sounds like pads are the issue. I'll try > skimming a bit off the pads but I'm afraid that as soon as they get hot > I'll have the same problem again. Last time when I put new pads on the car > it stopped pretty well till I made my first hard stop. I smelled burning > pad and that was that. I don't want racing pads for the street but I love > those curvy country roads. I think I need something in between race and > street. What about the 240Z pads? > Thanks. P.J. > > > On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 11:35 PM, Jim Gray wrote: > >> PJ, >> With 5/8" masters you should be getting enough line pressure. Maybe deglaze >> the rotors and drums and get some pads with some real bite. >> Ken Knight turned me on to Carbotech brakes and the car stops better than >> ever. >> jim g >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of McKearn McKearn >> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:22 PM >> To: fot@autox.team.net >> Subject: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. >> >> Hi. >> I'm looking to improve the brakes on My GT6. I currently have stock >> brakes with nothing special pads. Dual master cylinders with 5/8 pistons >> and balance bar. Rotors are drilled . The car will stop but It seams like >> it takes some serious pedal pressure and if you want to stop NOW you have >> to push with all you've got. I think the balance is pretty close as the >> fronts will lock up first but I just feel like something's missing in the >> brake department. This is a street car (for now) I have considered ceramic >> pads but really don't know if that would help or not. Any suggestions would >> be appreciated. >> Thanks. P.J. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 24 12:53:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5286F2584C15 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 12:53:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qg0-f46.google.com (mail-qg0-f46.google.com [209.85.192.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F422584ABF for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 12:53:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qg0-f46.google.com with SMTP id z60so8655664qgd.19 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 11:53:49 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=suYwk0ZNEkRE3Tpx7oNU/rEknxdTh2i7i36ulWa7Ovc=; b=nlFwqtSJmX2J7lusTioZeGxo2g2CsXlNHpwmoHxn9cKZW5fB6wcckc87xA2qeOcEBG Vfzosyicr5ZuG+C5CfGz/3cQd4kWNPsndrgah3gZ6hEOyRa0dq5cj9uDwtkRgfAZ6XCB t6IzkrBXVG765bK0B8DrhSuwITfec71dtW5Hf/BprzccSkulJmZJW4oDG4fPCo7ybluN 0JYJ5EDWbcNltJmou0JZGkLQ7axAuY7pgTGtvWVGE8zXeQBqm3cbbC5krDdHxnSxKxMc oQG74I07ZOzVRe/3F3vfP3jEba+8Rtic/53IvIMkoZQa3243tWRahLDsXqEkwg7g8y3g hPGA== x76mr26366214qgx.61.1408906429221; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 11:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.30.137 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 11:53:09 -0700 (PDT) References: <53f96adc.4164460a.507a.201cSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> From: Kas Kastner Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 11:53:09 -0700 To: McKearn McKearn Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Remember with new pads in particular to BREAK THEM IN. No hard stops until you have done that or you ruin their effectivness and maybe the discs also. Several easy slow stops from about 50-60 mph, or even slower, never a hard stop at least a full lap, or even two, then allow them to cool on the straight and you have a set of brakes good for hard stopping quickly. *Never be beaten by equipment.* On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 10:26 AM, McKearn McKearn wrote: > Hi All. > Thanks for the ideas. So it sounds like pads are the issue. I'll try > skimming a bit off the pads but I'm afraid that as soon as they get hot > I'll have the same problem again. Last time when I put new pads on the car > it stopped pretty well till I made my first hard stop. I smelled burning > pad and that was that. I don't want racing pads for the street but I love > those curvy country roads. I think I need something in between race and > street. What about the 240Z pads? > Thanks. P.J. > > > On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 11:35 PM, Jim Gray > wrote: > > > PJ, > > With 5/8" masters you should be getting enough line pressure. Maybe > deglaze > > the rotors and drums and get some pads with some real bite. > > Ken Knight turned me on to Carbotech brakes and the car stops better than > > ever. > > jim g > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of McKearn > McKearn > > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:22 PM > > To: fot@autox.team.net > > Subject: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. > > > > Hi. > > I'm looking to improve the brakes on My GT6. I currently have stock > > brakes with nothing special pads. Dual master cylinders with 5/8 pistons > > and balance bar. Rotors are drilled . The car will stop but It seams like > > it takes some serious pedal pressure and if you want to stop NOW you > have > > to push with all you've got. I think the balance is pretty close as the > > fronts will lock up first but I just feel like something's missing in the > > brake department. This is a street car (for now) I have considered > ceramic > > pads but really don't know if that would help or not. Any suggestions > would > > be appreciated. > > Thanks. P.J. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 24 13:27:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B892584C38 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 13:27:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m09.mx.aol.com (omr-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD63E25845AD for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 13:26:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aae02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aae02.mx.aol.com [172.27.1.100]) by omr-m09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 26C0A7000009A; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 15:27:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mlc001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mlc001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.207]) by mtaomg-aae02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id F05B2380000EC; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 15:27:14 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 15:27:14 -0400 (EDT) To: duncan.charlton54@gmail.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1408908435; bh=kiqj0M8AYcVfIb/eFgOxoOsLWF6uLUZzqxKBi3R251U=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0IiKre5m+xuL1VHNSAT9TfSkI/E2DO8w5vW2JBol7xg+vdByaWhqiHAxhQDAHw301 2BaZ+Cjtb37F94/nJpVTx1S0kXvi21AYcA/CTYZtJBooWjmynec0tdhQj946YcF6Hm I03VAsxwr3loZsIVQNidgrLgvBF+P2+ZTv1ZHxaQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b016453fa3c921863 Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 08/24/2014 1:49:15 PM Central Daylight Time, duncan.charlton54@gmail.com writes: > P. J. -- be sure to check the manufacturer's recommendations for > break-in procedure for those pads and be sure to follow it if you're > going to skim them and try again with the same pads. > > Hmmmm... We used to be paranoid about breaking in brake pads in accordance with the manufacturer's instructions. We'd devote a special session to it, putting an "X" on our car to alert others that we were doing something special. And it seemed to work, as we had no issues. But as the years went by it seemed to become less and less important, to a point where we did very little special at all to break pads in (maybe nothing more than get them hot, and cool them off once or twice) before serious racing. And there was no difference...we had no issues. I noticed little or no difference from when we made a big deal out of it, and when we rushed the break in, if at all. It made me think that the manufacturer's instructions was little more than a potential PYA cop out. If you complained about your brake pads, their answer was, "Well you probably broke them in wrong." Anyone share those feelings, or am I out in Left Field by myself again? For years now we've been running Hawk brake pads, but early on we started out with Ferodo and Velvet Touch (names from the past). Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 24 13:43:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D8F2584CF1 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 13:43:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5BA2584C47 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 13:42:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ijP01o0021zF43QAAjjfpD; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 19:43:39 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-503v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.178.3]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ijjf1o00904nC6y8kjjf4s; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 19:43:39 +0000 Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 19:43:39 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Friends of Triumph Thread-Topic: Triumph magazine coverage Thread-Index: OO6n6fkjNVRP6yxBL1LR271BqtjQNg== s=q20140121; t=1408909419; bh=ohl3utr3op0IDYIpZXdt5rGA6cKRVihZjDN+wmkUKWU=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=piUzfblbLlzKUZEDWh3Rd8NSm6TDzc8HQzNCNt/SEN1j1AOB1c3XHqOy/LDc6Ei0+ xT68mAyreF5I8D7cMWCzd6Tta3dSemy1d7jAfmGIV5xaa4JmDuIA4jmVHflpkkYnY6 bvNnVtxEEM4h8pefiBze+2OEzI5vNkSEe6ZhbFvSQGinHTSVaNjzkzGnSbI482Y6tF WMC0aBzcNtx3rN3Ni8jRc6eUZE+/6dRAnhXPMFHw76+FjGiF1Tf5JHx6iQC1/ITEFo R8I2JkwI0ANXsfEur7aIk0I67fY7hNNl18UAMX6/HWGrYOyElh94D5SL2EmLck5uYX S6kru/POR7pUg== Subject: [Fot] Triumph magazine coverage Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, Just to let everyone know, there is strong Triumph representation in the latest issue of Vintage Motorsport. Le Mans Classic "pick of the litter" article, '64 Spitfire Le Mans. Mosport Triumph / MG race, Bill Warner's TR6, Mark Wheatley, Mike Moore and ? white and blue right hand drive TR4s, John Styduhar's TR3. Also, the Kastner Cup is covered with nice shots of Mike Munson's TR6 and Greg Blake's TR3. Although, as it was written, Mike had not, "laid claim to the Cup." with his first place finish. Great job guys. Dave H. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 24 14:10:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964A92584CFF for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 14:10:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8F82584A9B for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 14:09:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [67.255.13.17] ([67.255.13.17:61558] helo=Russlaptop) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 56/1F-05785-DB64AF35; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 20:10:37 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: , , References: <2531.2a9e79ce.412b9692@aol.com> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 16:10:32 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac+/0ax9olR4FmR8TC+GLcYYuOcjugABG2YQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ditto! Pretty much what I arrived at also. I found it much more important to lightly remove any glaze from the braking surfaces. I run GT-6/TR-4 pads on the Spitfire, as do most other Spitfires. Russ Moore Spitfire #49 -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BillDentin@aol.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:27 PM To: duncan.charlton54@gmail.com; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. In a message dated 08/24/2014 1:49:15 PM Central Daylight Time, duncan.charlton54@gmail.com writes: > P. J. -- be sure to check the manufacturer's recommendations for > break-in procedure for those pads and be sure to follow it if you're > going to skim them and try again with the same pads. > > Hmmmm... We used to be paranoid about breaking in brake pads in accordance with the manufacturer's instructions. We'd devote a special session to it, putting an "X" on our car to alert others that we were doing something special. And it seemed to work, as we had no issues. But as the years went by it seemed to become less and less important, to a point where we did very little special at all to break pads in (maybe nothing more than get them hot, and cool them off once or twice) before serious racing. And there was no difference...we had no issues. I noticed little or no difference from when we made a big deal out of it, and when we rushed the break in, if at all. It made me think that the manufacturer's instructions was little more than a potential PYA cop out. If you complained about your brake pads, their answer was, "Well you probably broke them in wrong." Anyone share those feelings, or am I out in Left Field by myself again? For years now we've been running Hawk brake pads, but early on we started out with Ferodo and Velvet Touch (names from the past). Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 24 14:53:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C852584CFF for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 14:53:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p01c12o142.mxlogic.net (p01c12o142.mxlogic.net [208.65.145.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7B52584CA4 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 14:53:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO ATLPEXCAS02.xc.lan) by p01c12o142.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.1.0-0) with ESMTP id 5f05af35.2b854c626940.36763.00-596.81856.p01c12o142.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Sun, 24 Aug 2014 14:54:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO ATLPEXCAS02.xc.lan) by p01c12o142.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.1.0-0) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id 8e05af35.0.36726.00-371.81792.p01c12o142.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Sun, 24 Aug 2014 14:54:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::c824:a29e:45a5:b81c]) by ATLPEXCAS02.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 16:53:57 -0400 From: John Hasty To: "BillDentin@aol.com" Thread-Topic: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. Thread-Index: AQHPv9Fo1cCoiFjyn0uPGUYCIO1S55vgO2hf Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 20:53:56 +0000 References: <2531.2a9e79ce.412b9692@aol.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US a=VR8QHrWKYhK80xkEBGCjUg==] a=DXt] a=xqWC_Br] a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:] a=k0l] a=] a=Z6qn] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ah.....Ferodo ... real asbestos.... Their break in instructions would take up an entire practice session. With the bike Sun morning practice was always devoted to breaking in a new set of front Ferodo pads. Like Kas said, with Carbotec just drag them every 30 sec or so for a lap, brake slow a few laps & hit them hard 3 or 4 times, come in and let them cool and you are set Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 24, 2014, at 3:28 PM, "BillDentin@aol.com" wrote: > > In a message dated 08/24/2014 1:49:15 PM Central Daylight Time, > duncan.charlton54@gmail.com writes: > > >> P. J. -- be sure to check the manufacturer's recommendations for >> break-in procedure for those pads and be sure to follow it if you're >> going to skim them and try again with the same pads. >> >> > > Hmmmm... > > We used to be paranoid about breaking in brake pads in accordance with the > manufacturer's instructions. We'd devote a special session to it, putting > an "X" on our car to alert others that we were doing something special. And > it seemed to work, as we had no issues. > > But as the years went by it seemed to become less and less important, to a > point where we did very little special at all to break pads in (maybe > nothing more than get them hot, and cool them off once or twice) before serious > racing. And there was no difference...we had no issues. > > I noticed little or no difference from when we made a big deal out of it, > and when we rushed the break in, if at all. It made me think that the > manufacturer's instructions was little more than a potential PYA cop out. If you > complained about your brake pads, their answer was, "Well you probably broke > them in wrong." > > Anyone share those feelings, or am I out in Left Field by myself again? > > For years now we've been running Hawk brake pads, but early on we started > out with Ferodo and Velvet Touch (names from the past). > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 24 19:55:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76BA225845BB for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 19:55:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6843825803CC for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 19:54:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20140825015532.WUSN9941.mta21.charter.net@imp11> for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 21:55:32 -0400 Received: from mtaout003.msg.strl.va.charter.net ([68.114.190.28]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id ipvY1o00C0dCcRg05pvYwg; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 21:55:32 -0400 Received: from impout006 ([68.114.189.21]) by mtaout003.msg.strl.va.charter.net (InterMail vM.9.00.010.00 201-2473-137) with ESMTP id <20140825015532.LIUQ3191.mtaout003.msg.strl.va.charter.net@impout006> for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 20:55:32 -0500 Received: from [10.10.0.158] ([162.220.89.246]) by impout006 with charter.net id ipvT1o0095Jueyi01pvVFh; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 20:55:32 -0500 a=meoFk+S4sfGVCudnhIhdkw==:117 a=meoFk+S4sfGVCudnhIhdkw==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=tcnv99F1KMcA:10 a=BJ5nyRpbJ9gA:10 a=1Xlw2KJW94YA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=RkISZILYx8zQAdw3eVUA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 20:55:22 -0500 From: David Kettler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: fot@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Fot] GRATTAN Raceway... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Race report from Sunday's Grattan race. Sam did not do too well. Not sure what happened but the 240 Z won today. Dave On 8/24/2014 9:49 AM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > Amici... > > I received an email from Dave Kettler, who is helping run an SCCA event at > Grattan Raceway this week end. Dave's been to a ton of race tracks around > the country, but this was his first trip to Grattan. He got to be a > passenger in the pace car for the Production Car race yesterday, and was totally > impressed with the challenges that Grattan provides. > > Incidentally, while we had a bunch of TRIUMPHs at Grattan Raceway last week > end, there is only one there this week end. But when that TRIUMPH is Sam > Halkias...one is enough. He got around a 240Z to win the Prod Race. > > HOORAY four our side! > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dkettler1@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 24 20:46:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE0825845CB for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 20:46:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm28-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm28-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1B0258078C for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 20:45:45 -0600 (MDT) s=s1024; t=1408934788; bh=GEv6RV6gR9epSpmh5b4I8nbmxWr/dwZ4otTzOdJ1F1s=; b=rGSVCWlDv00fBhkcqE6Pk3FSrQ3kiC1vIJVFoIZlgGH6vUx6axoik7AopvP6a7GU7KS/qzqznuljJbY27CmRiUeiJh9D0+AaTMFST+2ggZmLfa4XMxiAd9oZd154CIxPzN/KZY6N4NZo2QzNovVkymf+JwNSSD2Q8t7A24D4+9A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; b=AfCJ2wFr8JPuippb7fBtS7vv78C4mshN6CvamBZtlC1BSEDfESMFonV5iIFiaWcgiLgEQG/F1uAQxmpelxlZsOutAuf49ugx0oML6JjL4HFuNHBT9dqB28sfK1tWFNmVgzjRZXFgYLtYySKq7f/4S4uWDNWnmH6UFRRY5uK7P5g=; Received: from [98.138.100.111] by nm28.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Aug 2014 02:46:28 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.129] by tm100.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Aug 2014 02:46:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp216.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Aug 2014 02:46:27 -0000 s=s1024; t=1408934787; bh=GEv6RV6gR9epSpmh5b4I8nbmxWr/dwZ4otTzOdJ1F1s=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Importance:From:To:Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KjLmE6cQ8D2M8oW1gjnWCjgeGjVK1Os0si2rjpV4XHL5T5Gh+m/OoB/dW+cpf9YGt+IXKe3PplqnalSRCiXWkMfaEAlfOkophq3EHyKh1udkIW6OH6s3MxLWCgws9CkpeUSi/0SUY5RzS/vFzWtrthe7FlVCVVpPysUtqMY5iRE= d7hIlpKe_2YNBUlbvCvgynnvr19GpNeAipNsP2_wW.PmoLWhvSpCJ3_ua66X al5iH1TwsRIEq9Mc8K8yU2ks0GePXlJNlvHiJd.WAavIJnRKUweYOyfa7Fox DsYPkw44R4F7HzGLyn4gsKRpacp_bTb8BbS8qeI4QkgBbyp6HJ9LAMRJEQVF yZkPjIVDeAcaSTs_YSkBqTymVDYudSrUp6OiwDk1BZaJ6j._FkO1jpRt_81l NNSil.XZeiIU6Ia4J2Y02vSAZO4_PHpVFqzkQnNoH_gUFoFgIDhHOOcnytxM wVoKePuUcxS16nw9EtFpI3osBcZtVelLtj1Tp95uAvHJ49RKmjriLyLSf313 tb2fiZyZbv7Xn38yN1jsD1RiPNi4uMh3id.mO2omfGEZWrEq_A7UGgi7gxXd EQWAVkxYRY7B.bIWpkPwTXYd4kA4L0orSqsPO8fuh2kUCUbJVS2r8rSGDoGO H_zn5bxB.nPIcfVDbdUsMJDDWhuQNqKAozN3b2C7n34kibCLgNzOUZXUXO5V PQj7sXPy98vd5BfMSkyhl3jDVdI3oWbY7KgBbLjMaNLCS26GOEg-- Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 22:46:20 -0400 From: Doug Mitchell To: David Kettler , Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] GRATTAN Raceway... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I heard that Sam lost his brakes. Doug dmitchel@sbcglobal.net Sent from my mobile phone -------- Original message -------- From: David Kettler Date: 08/24/2014 9:55 PM (GMT-05:00) To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] GRATTAN Raceway... Race report from Sunday's Grattan race.B Sam did not do too well. Not sure what happened but the 240 Z won today. Dave On 8/24/2014 9:49 AM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > Amici... > > I received an email from Dave Kettler, who is helping run an SCCA event at > Grattan Raceway this week end.B Dave's been to a ton of race tracks around > the country, but this was his first trip to Grattan.B He got to be a > passenger in the pace car for the Production Car race yesterday, and was totally > impressed with the challenges that Grattan provides. > > Incidentally, while we had a bunch of TRIUMPHs at Grattan Raceway last week > end, there is only one there this week end.B But when that TRIUMPH is Sam > Halkias...one is enough.B He got around a 240Z to win the Prod Race. > > HOORAY four our side! > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dkettler1@charter.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 25 09:50:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 163912584D1F for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:50:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m09.mx.aol.com (omr-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB8A25807AA for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:50:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mcc02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mcc02.mx.aol.com [172.26.253.78]) by omr-m09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B28E7702DA60F for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:51:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mcc02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 3D01D38000091 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:51:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 10:51:16 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1408981886; bh=kJaM4G7fhcvFLmycVrjs+sqlGsHaOCpncXnTu6UKRM8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=Dq3jm5+8Drz7iC7cG9ydf3LGpOFkL5E+PE4xd4s0/MgBk1ldX8v5IKNlka2ulido+ a4caawPZozl3dwYUDQuKe1qdoWFXG7qUaGtEsA8X9zSN7JIXvE1itpVTA1Tr6lwEh/ OrhLgHSuQUyLiIFjDHhF0afuVgVZaxjS4z04AiXI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afd4e53fb5b7a787e Subject: [Fot] Sammoi Spitfire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT I am trying to acquire information on something called a "Sammoi Spitfire". I didn't turn much up on Google. It appears to be a kit body conversion of some kind. Thanks, Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 25 11:38:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE6E2584D29 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:38:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136902584D29 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:37:35 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: dnvrco-oedge03 smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.70.248] ([107.14.70.248:42563] helo=dnvrco-web12) by dnvrco-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 06/FC-28546-B847BF35; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:38:19 +0000 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:38:19 +0000 From: To: fot@autox.team.net, Joe Alexander Sensitivity: Normal Aug 2014 17:38:19 +0000 a=wAyFwspFC75BjEd6OtOw1g==:117 a=wAyFwspFC75BjEd6OtOw1g==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=bDH4j3DsZ_wA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=jg_yglyPAAAA:8 a=B6ARQbUIAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=MbJEEs2gulTmAKcGzjkA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=MG4Rcr4xqJIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=psXREZS0v_AA:10 a=f_jo5SVVs6EA:10 a=bXXmjBwangUA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 Subject: Re: [Fot] Sammoi Spitfire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Try Samoa Spitfire Bob Kramer rkramer3@austin.rr.com ---- Joe Alexander wrote: > FOT > > I am trying to acquire information on something called a "Sammoi Spitfire". > > I didn't turn much up on Google. > > It appears to be a kit body conversion of some kind. > > Thanks, > > Joe Alexander > 645 1st Street > Jesup, IA 50648 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 25 11:47:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79CC32584DCE for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:47:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F532584D7C for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:47:23 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: dnvrco-oedge03 smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.70.248] ([107.14.70.248:5850] helo=dnvrco-web12) by dnvrco-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 5C/22-28546-6D67BF35; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:48:07 +0000 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:48:06 +0000 From: To: fot@autox.team.net, Joe Alexander Sensitivity: Normal Aug 2014 17:48:06 +0000 a=wAyFwspFC75BjEd6OtOw1g==:117 a=wAyFwspFC75BjEd6OtOw1g==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=bDH4j3DsZ_wA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=mbZ05ln8AAAA:8 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=jg_yglyPAAAA:8 a=B6ARQbUIAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=bFcZJbv8iYY-xBeF5MsA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=MG4Rcr4xqJIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=f_jo5SVVs6EA:10 a=bXXmjBwangUA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 Subject: Re: [Fot] Sammoi Spitfire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triumph-Herald-Vitesse-based-Kit-car-NO-IVA-REQUIRED/271584210111?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D24435%26meid%3D43cbddbbf6064f9f8abc2efeb06f3a6c%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D9173%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D271509210969 Bob Kramer rkramer3@austin.rr.com ---- Joe Alexander wrote: > FOT > > I am trying to acquire information on something called a "Sammoi Spitfire". > > I didn't turn much up on Google. > > It appears to be a kit body conversion of some kind. > > Thanks, > > Joe Alexander > 645 1st Street > Jesup, IA 50648 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 25 12:09:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E9A92584E06 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 12:09:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 098C32580938 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 12:09:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vznit170158pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.60]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTP id <0NAV0092MJS8XQ10@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 13:09:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 130.76.64.119 ([130.76.64.119]) by vznit170158 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 13:09:44 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 13:09:44 -0500 (CDT) From: koblinger@verizon.net To: rkramer3@austin.rr.com, fot@autox.team.net, n197tr4@cs.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Sammoi Spitfire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 25 12:49:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11052584DD7 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 12:49:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from ex.dunnwalshholdings.com (ex.dunnwalshholdings.com [173.219.117.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7F0258094A for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 12:48:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::6cea:93a1:26a:8c3c]) by TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::6cea:93a1:26a:8c3c%15]) with mapi; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:49:30 -0700 From: Edward Dunn To: "jason@multivintage.com" Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:48:18 -0700 Thread-Topic: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating Thread-Index: Ac++XGgqkumWiIUHTBCxTYKHwRFEhACOIylg References: <1770f939.9d8e0.147f62f6d32.Webtop.49@charter.net> <20140822175031.160EA25857E6@autox.team.net> <20140822225627.9AA0125849EF@autox.team.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Cc: Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Jason, what kind of typical life (hours, etc.)are you getting on your GT6 motor? Ed Dunn -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of jason@multivintage.com Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 3:57 PM To: Vangoughv; Fot; Tony Drews Cc: Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating Vince, for the GT6... FGR runs only redline straight 50wt racing synthethic In all our race cars. We have been using this for years. Expensive yes! But don't argue with years of success in GT6 race motors. Zippy has run on this for many, many, years. In my opinion there is no substitute. Nfi, Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Vangoughv To: Tony Drews Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating What type and viscosity motor oil are you using? Newer Alloy style oil pump or a re-cored original cast type? Vince > On Aug 22, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > > I've been thinking about this one. Nothing about overheating SHOULD > cause the oil pressure change unless you managed to get water into the oil, I'd think. I'd start with removing and cleaning the oil pressure relief valve in the oil filter head. If you get a piece of dirt holding that open, you'll see low pressure at idle. > > Of course the advice about "check the pressure gauge" is good too. > > Tony Drews > > At 08:30 PM 8/20/2014, damys@charter.net wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'm new to the group and hope I can get some advice. My son and I >> are building a GT6 into a racer and need some help. We've had the >> engine rebuilt with some mods. Ross pistons, WBC cam, roller >> rockers, head shaved to approx. 10-1 compression, mild port job and balanced. >> >> At Elkhart last weekend we overheated the engine and now there is no >> oil pressure at idle. The engine runs strong, no noise, and still >> has pressure when cold. As the engine warms the pressure drops. >> >> I will add a heavier radiator cap and a shroud to direct air into the >> stock style (aluminum) radiator. It's been suggested I shim the >> pressure relief valve to increase overall oil pressure. >> >> Any advice on resolving the oil and temp problems. >> >> The engine easily turns 6500 RPM's but we have the MSD set at 6000. >> The engine has approx. 1000 miles on it. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dave Amys >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 25 13:07:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E4E2584DEE for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 13:07:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1480D2584498 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 13:07:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rocky ([24.255.156.66]) by p3plsmtpa09-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id j78L1o00A1SE0Kc0178MGT; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 12:08:22 -0700 From: "Rocky Entriken" To: , , "Joe Alexander" References: <20140825174807.O367I.127814.root@dnvrco-web12> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 14:10:17 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Sammoi Spitfire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The Ferrari badges spoil it for me Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; "Joe Alexander" Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Sammoi Spitfire > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triumph-Herald-Vitesse-based-Kit-car-NO-IVA-REQUIRED/271584210111?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D24435%26meid%3D43cbddbbf6064f9f8abc2efeb06f3a6c%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D9173%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D271509210969 > > > Bob Kramer > rkramer3@austin.rr.com > > ---- Joe Alexander wrote: >> FOT >> >> I am trying to acquire information on something called a "Sammoi >> Spitfire". >> >> I didn't turn much up on Google. >> >> It appears to be a kit body conversion of some kind. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Joe Alexander >> 645 1st Street >> Jesup, IA 50648 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rocky@spitfire4.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of sick0003.gif] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 25 13:10:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4E12584DEE for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 13:10:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D7872584664 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 13:10:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [76.84.235.224] ([76.84.235.224:1965] helo=guinanhp) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 87/06-31151-B3A8BF35; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 19:10:51 +0000 From: "Joe Guinan" To: , Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 14:11:50 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac/AmGw0biMjsnwRRyWtburTtl6tNg== Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Sammoi Spitfire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It looks like it should be "Sammio Cordite", instead of Sammoi. I found this nice blog that might give you the information you need. Interesting kit, though it doesn't seem to have been quite as thoroughly engineered as it might have been. It seems Ribble Kits has moved on to the "Pilot" and now the "Navigator" model. http://www.ffcars.com/forums/146-other-replicas-scratch-builds-kits/363818-s ammio-cordite-triumph-spitfire-1500-based-kit.html Ribble Kits - http://www.sammio.co.uk/Index.aspx Joe Guinan Fremont, NE _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 25 13:37:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB0D2584E0D for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 13:37:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SNT004-OMC2S42.hotmail.com (snt004-omc2s42.hotmail.com [65.54.61.93]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D9C25845DC for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 13:37:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT404-EAS298 ([65.55.90.73]) by SNT004-OMC2S42.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Mon, 25 Aug 2014 12:38:34 -0700 References: <53FA978A.3000604@charter.net> From: Sam Halkias Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 15:38:30 -0400 To: David Kettler FILETIME=[284ADDE0:01CFC09C] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] GRATTAN Raceway... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Dave, Good to see you last weekend! Track was very fast! A bit hot but that's what we expect in August! Sat race was fun with the Z car, we both were under the E/P lap record with me resetting my current lap record at 1:24.75 . Sunday was a tad cooler and not as humid and the car took off and ran away from the field. On lap 20 my brake pedal got soft in turn one, barely made the corner, it did not get better and by the bowl I had what felt like a locked caliper, and to make things worse I spun in someone oil right after the bowl, and knew it was over. Did not hit anything and upon further inspection this morning I discovered a RF inner wheel bearing had destroyed itself, thus the soft pedal. But I lowered the lap record to a 1:24.28. So all in all not a bad weekend, just have to step up my wheel bearing maintenance as the new Hawk DTC-70's are making more heat! Sam > On Aug 24, 2014, at 9:55 PM, "David Kettler" wrote: > > Race report from Sunday's Grattan race. Sam did not do too well. Not sure what happened but the 240 Z won today. > > Dave >> On 8/24/2014 9:49 AM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: >> Amici... >> >> I received an email from Dave Kettler, who is helping run an SCCA event at >> Grattan Raceway this week end. Dave's been to a ton of race tracks around >> the country, but this was his first trip to Grattan. He got to be a >> passenger in the pace car for the Production Car race yesterday, and was totally >> impressed with the challenges that Grattan provides. >> >> Incidentally, while we had a bunch of TRIUMPHs at Grattan Raceway last week >> end, there is only one there this week end. But when that TRIUMPH is Sam >> Halkias...one is enough. He got around a 240Z to win the Prod Race. >> >> HOORAY four our side! >> >> Bill Dentinger >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dkettler1@charter.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/atr6racer@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 25 14:58:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DAD92584F48 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 14:58:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ADB4258458E for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 14:57:35 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge02 smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [166.176.123.66] ([166.176.123.66:34544] helo=[10.42.225.142]) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 0B/92-31151-963ABF35; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 20:58:18 +0000 References: <53FA978A.3000604@charter.net> From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 15:58:13 -0500 To: Sam Halkias Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] GRATTAN Raceway... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sam, Did you capture any video of the race with the Z that you can share? Would love to watch. Greg > On Aug 25, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Sam Halkias wrote: > > Dave, > Good to see you last weekend! Track was very fast! A bit hot but that's > what we expect in August! Sat race was fun with the Z car, we both were under > the E/P lap record with me resetting my current lap record at 1:24.75 . > Sunday was a tad cooler and not as humid and the car took off and ran away > from the field. On lap 20 my brake pedal got soft in turn one, barely made > the corner, it did not get better and by the bowl I had what felt like a > locked caliper, and to make things worse I spun in someone oil right after the > bowl, and knew it was over. Did not hit anything and upon further inspection > this morning I discovered a RF inner wheel bearing had destroyed itself, thus > the soft pedal. But I lowered the lap record to a 1:24.28. So all in all not a > bad weekend, just have to step up my wheel bearing maintenance as the new Hawk > DTC-70's are making more heat! > > Sam > >> On Aug 24, 2014, at 9:55 PM, "David Kettler" wrote: >> >> Race report from Sunday's Grattan race. Sam did not do too well. Not sure > what happened but the 240 Z won today. >> >> Dave >>> On 8/24/2014 9:49 AM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: >>> Amici... >>> >>> I received an email from Dave Kettler, who is helping run an SCCA event at >>> Grattan Raceway this week end. Dave's been to a ton of race tracks around >>> the country, but this was his first trip to Grattan. He got to be a >>> passenger in the pace car for the Production Car race yesterday, and was > totally >>> impressed with the challenges that Grattan provides. >>> >>> Incidentally, while we had a bunch of TRIUMPHs at Grattan Raceway last > week >>> end, there is only one there this week end. But when that TRIUMPH is Sam >>> Halkias...one is enough. He got around a 240Z to win the Prod Race. >>> >>> HOORAY four our side! >>> >>> Bill Dentinger >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dkettler1@charter.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/atr6racer@hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 25 16:15:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA262584FEF for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:15:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 481FC2584596 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:15:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vznit170158pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.60]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTP id <0NAV009L6V6WUL40@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:16:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 130.76.64.109 ([130.76.64.109]) by vznit170184 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:16:08 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:16:08 -0500 (CDT) From: koblinger@verizon.net To: rocky@spitfire4.com, rkramer3@austin.rr.com, fot@autox.team.net, n197tr4@cs.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Sammoi Spitfire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 25 16:32:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3FF258503A for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:32:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.233]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59034258500D for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:31:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rocky ([24.255.156.66]) by p3plsmtpa09-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id jAY71o0031SE0Kc01AY70Y; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 15:32:08 -0700 From: "Rocky Entriken" To: , , , References: <268205.663184.1409004968302.JavaMail.root@vznit170184> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:34:17 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Sammoi Spitfire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A good example .. this past weekend my Spitfire was in the Blacktop Nationals car show in Wichita, parked beside a shiny red 2006 Ford GT. (I claimed I had more fun per dollar than he did, he agreed, since we both felt we got max fun from our cars). Anyway he had a couple of Terlingua Racing Team stickers on his car, a semi-fictional team created by Carroll Shelby. The stickers, just under the 'A' pillar, were a yellow shield bearing a jackrabbit silhouette with a paw up in the air. From a distance it was vaguely similar to the Ferrari prancing horse. The red Ferrari similarity was quite intentional. (The paw in the air, he said, was supposed to signify "your chili is hot enough, Carroll.") --Rocky Entriken ----- Original Message ----- From: koblinger@verizon.net To: rocky@spitfire4.com ; rkramer3@austin.rr.com ; fot@autox.team.net ; n197tr4@cs.com Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 5:16 PM Subject: Re: Re: [Fot] Sammoi Spitfire The Ferrari badges are hokey and tasteless. I'd rather come up with a wholly fictional (and slightly farcical) identity like the Turlington Titmouse MkII. Then build a fictional backstory for it. Take it to car shows and see who buys into it or who gets the joke. Cheers, Kurt O. On 08/25/14, Rocky Entriken wrote: The Ferrari badges spoil it for me Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; "Joe Alexander" Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Sammoi Spitfire > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triumph-Herald-Vitesse-based-Kit-car-NO-IVA-REQUIRE D/271584210111?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3 DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D24435%26meid%3D43cbddbbf6064f9f8abc2efeb06f3a6c%26p id%3D100011%26prg%3D9173%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D271509210969 > > > Bob Kramer > rkramer3@austin.rr.com > > ---- Joe Alexander wrote: >> FOT >> >> I am trying to acquire information on something called a "Sammoi >> Spitfire". >> >> I didn't turn much up on Google. >> >> It appears to be a kit body conversion of some kind. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Joe Alexander >> 645 1st Street >> Jesup, IA 50648 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rocky@spitfire4.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of sick0003.gif] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/koblinger@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 25 17:58:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F402584631 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:58:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f169.google.com (mail-ig0-f169.google.com [209.85.213.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CEC02584596 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:58:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f169.google.com with SMTP id r2so4936684igi.4 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:59:15 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :references:in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:cc:from :date:content-type:mime-version; bh=VQ5nYo72CsW7I7qQoS+0RpeWDjakfc9zApmIQ+32Vu0=; b=HNFuOKfCMKw13Q1rrO74lu/LsRuQUo82wklSDC+yTHvEo5zUSdqiXZBWo6gj+URyar /t7SF2i5AQgiFnVWznJbLCUwzU61Yko/V+JTa6V3gJ8R4MBLnd4m+Mk5969uktgZFQft rNKiSCxlaawFr+/4uQ9NzvD8zwP75SXRn3kf1xeBr38Vq+C69u3RV2CKd1sK8IOzUdmD +D+qzoMXZxvvMRruhqJ5Vh/koqIKA0b9rborCWSpxceRvNAA/gazgGqueWr5bNBc00NW eDvEUeZR9MbxCEuCEfhuIa69JxxkGSJmM+RHf1ROAwY+0+XjHVTR0PIv1YcAkuFeDJVh R32g== t5mr27051334icf.11.1409011154945; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:59:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.186 (bda-74-82-80-88.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.88]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qp10sm6042278igb.4.2014.08.25.16.59.13 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:59:14 -0700 (PDT) References: <1770f939.9d8e0.147f62f6d32.Webtop.49@charter.net> <20140822175031.160EA25857E6@autox.team.net> <20140822225627.9AA0125849EF@autox.team.net> <36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB02F06B23A7A9@TITAN.dwholdings.local> Sensitivity: Normal To: "Edward Dunn" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 23:59:09 +0000 Cc: Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Before I answer that, let me explain why I believe we have very good motor life. Without getting too philosphical, FGR has a very simple (fanatically deliberate and careful) way of preparing the cars. That is to say, I'd have to admit that I cannot really even take credit for most of it. Rather, I am very lucky to have just studied the Factory Manual, Kas' words and writtings; and mostly just collected race info, cars, and parts... while surrounding myself with best racing GT6's for my whole life. For the most part I think of myself as a curator. I thank John Reed, my dad, Dennis Moeller, and anyone that ever touched the yellow car... Because these guys gave me the templates for success in the small world of GT6 racing. That is NOT to say that I just leave the cars as they sit. What I try to do (first and foremost) is make absolutly sure that they are prepared to the last Benchmark of success before every time I take one out. Since I started racing the cars, I have been doing just that, and get faster and faster every time I get in to drive. 40 years ago, when I was just a baby pup my "Family" started racing GT6's in showroom stock. The cars were pretty much STOCK. My Dad and John drove the friggin wheels off them. (My dad's car has been brought back to this original showroom stock configuration.) The other 2 cars, some 44 years later; have evoled into what they are today... essentially true and period correct D production demons with each their own cheats and tweeks. Lots of custom upgrades of parts or systems that failed as well as lots of original and well-maintained GT6 parts. Between the 3 race cars in the stable we have documents for over 400 race weekends. And yes, we have had some big fails and big fixes. We have struggled in certain areas but that often speaks to budgets rather than balls. In all those races, one fist remains closed when I start counting motor failures. We simply don't have them. To answer your question, our super trick motor (AND 1972 SCCA spec legal in every way; lovingly developed by John Reed) is on a SIX race weekend "rebuild to spec/freshen-up" cycle. The yellow car... You won't believe this; I retired this motor last weekend after it's 20th weekend of racing! I just felt that the time had come. So the spare motor (Prepared to the LAST KNOWN BENCHMARK SUCCESS) will go in next next while we freshen it up) I figure the difference in cam and gearing define the parameters of longevity. The gearing and cam in the yellow car will peak perforance at about 7000rpm and Zippy will rev past 8000 any time you have the balls to take it there. ALL the motors have STOCK cranks, STOCK rods (lightened and race preped in every way), venolia pistons, 2 carbs (stockish...he, he) and a shortly shaved head that delivers about 12.75 to 1. Roller rockers=NO. To be frank, Most of what has been happening with blown GT6 race motors has happened only because of lack of proper attention to details accertained by working within the parameters of an existing LAST KNOWN BENCHMARK OF SUCCESS. If you are beaten by a GT6 motor, your motor has not been set to this specification. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing "Balls out GT6 race car museum" Curator: "SB" 1968 Triumph GT6 #72 "Captain Dirt" 1969 DP Triumph GT6+ #27 "Zippy" 1969 DP Triumph GT6+ #69 Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Edward Dunn Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:48:18 To: jason@multivintage.com Cc: Fot Subject: RE: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating Jason, what kind of typical life (hours, etc.)are you getting on your GT6 motor? Ed Dunn -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of jason@multivintage.com Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 3:57 PM To: Vangoughv; Fot; Tony Drews Cc: Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating Vince, for the GT6... FGR runs only redline straight 50wt racing synthethic In all our race cars. We have been using this for years. Expensive yes! But don't argue with years of success in GT6 race motors. Zippy has run on this for many, many, years. In my opinion there is no substitute. Nfi, Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Vangoughv To: Tony Drews Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Low oil pressure after overheating What type and viscosity motor oil are you using? Newer Alloy style oil pump or a re-cored original cast type? Vince > On Aug 22, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > > I've been thinking about this one. Nothing about overheating SHOULD > cause the oil pressure change unless you managed to get water into the oil, I'd think. I'd start with removing and cleaning the oil pressure relief valve in the oil filter head. If you get a piece of dirt holding that open, you'll see low pressure at idle. > > Of course the advice about "check the pressure gauge" is good too. > > Tony Drews > > At 08:30 PM 8/20/2014, damys@charter.net wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'm new to the group and hope I can get some advice. My son and I >> are building a GT6 into a racer and need some help. We've had the >> engine rebuilt with some mods. Ross pistons, WBC cam, roller >> rockers, head shaved to approx. 10-1 compression, mild port job and balanced. >> >> At Elkhart last weekend we overheated the engine and now there is no >> oil pressure at idle. The engine runs strong, no noise, and still >> has pressure when cold. As the engine warms the pressure drops. >> >> I will add a heavier radiator cap and a shroud to direct air into the >> stock style (aluminum) radiator. It's been suggested I shim the >> pressure relief valve to increase overall oil pressure. >> >> Any advice on resolving the oil and temp problems. >> >> The engine easily turns 6500 RPM's but we have the MSD set at 6000. >> The engine has approx. 1000 miles on it. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dave Amys >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 25 18:16:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B0772584F5F for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 18:16:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.centurylink.net (mail.centurylink.net [205.219.233.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66AA32584596 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 18:15:56 -0600 (MDT) c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1409012199; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=zPthsveGHYbHxQZO3RX3wZDaw2o=; b=xDGrs8ytTYCMOOSNRadsjPNpkgON6cFg5bY4pdFWJh+LUf/FT65ZQPDn/Z2HEsDz AHM47zoVksccY9DNhK4Y5Mf3ecSurPoqUKBvDVQ3MnTE2SY4phWMhvCqkB+FsM5y p8+j+rt+PxoKCtt1jwlRKFtyNQbLk5u0tBoJEsGZcVjsJPXnv2gHqBt3vOR0KSCu 6DXfZXyRkj43a+GPxWQ1p6/W1ptna6I0tiGf5+7VBCAONDHGmhIulIZ/Iyoibpkq nSr71tueJ9syq3tDQ0m4UzzRIvq2hlypSXMWLiT+FxVK9fX42WLGY6ehOXAVQSGM 0fbD80IXBA/i40yHLZ6DEg==; X_CMAE_Category: , , a=2RF0ne5nTZYA:10 a=1poGYrevpj8A:10 a=kkMvqwGeWEEA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=Nm9Yer3J1NJBwIfXvMQA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=lxCoX9IZmmrJaUu_:21 a=qotwLQciu0HZb0M4:21 a=zLzno4ilJRxFgvUXMpLPGQ==:117 Authentication-Results: smtp03.agate.dfw.synacor.com smtp.mail=mnewman@embarqmail.com; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp03.agate.dfw.synacor.com header.from=mnewman@embarqmail.com; sender-id=neutral Received-SPF: neutral (smtp03.agate.dfw.synacor.com: 10.40.66.5 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of embarqmail.com) Received: from [10.40.66.5] ([10.40.66.5:57356] helo=md39.agate.dfw.synacor.com) by smtp.centurylink.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.1.37854 r(Momo-dev:3.5.1.0)) with ESMTP id 9A/D5-05638-5E1DBF35; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 20:16:38 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 20:16:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "William T newman " To: McKearn McKearn Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici: All of the information on this issue has been very good, but I think you should look closer at the rear drums and shoes. My GT6 racer was having the same stopping problems after being inactive for over one year. I changed the rear shoes (Carbotec), and went out for a session with no improvement. Came in and re-adjusted the rear brakes which improved the braking effort 100%. You may be over-thinking the brake issue, go back to the basics. Bill Newman #44 GT6 #65 Spitfire ----- Original Message ----- From: McKearn McKearn To: Jim Gray Cc: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 13:26:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. Hi All. Thanks for the ideas. So it sounds like pads are the issue. I'll try skimming a bit off the pads but I'm afraid that as soon as they get hot I'll have the same problem again. Last time when I put new pads on the car it stopped pretty well till I made my first hard stop. I smelled burning pad and that was that. I don't want racing pads for the street but I love those curvy country roads. I think I need something in between race and street. What about the 240Z pads? Thanks. P.J. On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 11:35 PM, Jim Gray wrote: > PJ, > With 5/8" masters you should be getting enough line pressure. Maybe deglaze > the rotors and drums and get some pads with some real bite. > Ken Knight turned me on to Carbotech brakes and the car stops better than > ever. > jim g > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of McKearn McKearn > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:22 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. > > Hi. > I'm looking to improve the brakes on My GT6. I currently have stock > brakes with nothing special pads. Dual master cylinders with 5/8 pistons > and balance bar. Rotors are drilled . The car will stop but It seams like > it takes some serious pedal pressure and if you want to stop NOW you have > to push with all you've got. I think the balance is pretty close as the > fronts will lock up first but I just feel like something's missing in the > brake department. This is a street car (for now) I have considered ceramic > pads but really don't know if that would help or not. Any suggestions would > be appreciated. > Thanks. P.J. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 25 18:24:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6951D2584F11 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 18:24:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f172.google.com (mail-ie0-f172.google.com [209.85.223.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1E925845DF for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 18:24:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f172.google.com with SMTP id lx4so10712091iec.3 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:25:37 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :references:in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:cc:from :date:content-type:mime-version; bh=xflRVeZfvt25k0Yq+ChNvkl+NHLDqYKBD0QeA+Tjyo0=; b=kjt0DXZBDy2zhDwJFBYsv0yB9T7pxnso5kP0gt1lqxWk76299tM2zFfjmkDJeX6nGS O589SuRUv/+vg2CaObRhWErx8q2GGefTtklQEOlfw9ntffHjoJBngZvBeXq4q2M1MCWP y7PFCztn8mYHKs/NtXVbp+A7RjbC2oULJvmz5Ne7hMcV3FvS6/ryH9dh9pjqSaGnRRt8 oORItxEUvZwYd2VoOTkS9H+Iz9mNoj47RRllteBG64Lo3IImmS1B9VTXNoICBDFU2Jc/ o3MLKk7eqUcf1/NZIWwS/zHpSqb9nUI+AsoEmEPnCbocI4EEsBd1BEqfNhT67apexaJQ Mj0Q== v18mr18679830igr.21.1409012736811; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:25:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.186 (bda-74-82-80-88.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.88]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id p1sm6159514ige.21.2014.08.25.17.25.35 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:25:36 -0700 (PDT) References: <1460849742.19246222.1409012197783.JavaMail.root@embarqmail.com> Sensitivity: Normal To: "William T newman" ,"Fot" ,"McKearn McKearn" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 00:25:36 +0000 Cc: Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Very true Bill. I take it for granted that this is a obvious one! But perhaps overlooked. Its on our checklist for... Before every race. "Set rear brake adjuster screw" FGR spec.= "available on request" Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "William T newman " To: McKearn McKearn Cc: Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. Amici: All of the information on this issue has been very good, but I think you should look closer at the rear drums and shoes. My GT6 racer was having the same stopping problems after being inactive for over one year. I changed the rear shoes (Carbotec), and went out for a session with no improvement. Came in and re-adjusted the rear brakes which improved the braking effort 100%. You may be over-thinking the brake issue, go back to the basics. Bill Newman #44 GT6 #65 Spitfire ----- Original Message ----- From: McKearn McKearn To: Jim Gray Cc: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 13:26:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. Hi All. Thanks for the ideas. So it sounds like pads are the issue. I'll try skimming a bit off the pads but I'm afraid that as soon as they get hot I'll have the same problem again. Last time when I put new pads on the car it stopped pretty well till I made my first hard stop. I smelled burning pad and that was that. I don't want racing pads for the street but I love those curvy country roads. I think I need something in between race and street. What about the 240Z pads? Thanks. P.J. On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 11:35 PM, Jim Gray wrote: > PJ, > With 5/8" masters you should be getting enough line pressure. Maybe deglaze > the rotors and drums and get some pads with some real bite. > Ken Knight turned me on to Carbotech brakes and the car stops better than > ever. > jim g > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of McKearn McKearn > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:22 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] GT6 Brakes. > > Hi. > I'm looking to improve the brakes on My GT6. I currently have stock > brakes with nothing special pads. Dual master cylinders with 5/8 pistons > and balance bar. Rotors are drilled . The car will stop but It seams like > it takes some serious pedal pressure and if you want to stop NOW you have > to push with all you've got. I think the balance is pretty close as the > fronts will lock up first but I just feel like something's missing in the > brake department. This is a street car (for now) I have considered ceramic > pads but really don't know if that would help or not. Any suggestions would > be appreciated. > Thanks. P.J. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 26 04:05:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0FCE2584F5B for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 04:05:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m06.mx.aol.com (omr-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCE0A2580B38 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 04:04:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-aah01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-aah01.mx.aol.com [172.27.1.141]) by omr-m06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 717B9700308E7 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 06:05:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-aah01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id F0A29380000B0 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 06:05:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 05:05:10 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1409047513; bh=raJV69OotpCEW32jf8pyVEO704gX0Nukib/GpU0Ylb0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=tmYgXPs9wP1OkGiEl1Vc8MhYimhb0bfE2R1JSWjMCdYMWtMCxwybe5Copkhkq1Dfb VkzjiZ7x8TLLHYp2emB99+/zu9y9AkdeYfFVN92MwGALHP/4niRMBKwZYO1B+k5NYi 5BPj15PSYlGJmKZu1CN6nIpaac0dhZdUgCGBDkSs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b018d53fc5bd8151a Subject: [Fot] Sammio - Spitfire Project in the UK Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT, Something more on the "Sammio" conversion, I inquired about. I elected to contribute some components to this interesting sounding project, after getting an inquiry on parts. Then I received a note from the builder that he has Stage 4 Cancer and is using this project to effectively extend his life. After doing a number of Classic Car Restorations over the years, Neil disposed of his collection following his diagnosis, "due to my uncertain future". Then he found this unbuilt Sammio and went for it, placing it facing his bedroom. After 18 months it is nearly complete, in spite of limited mobility. I am going to try to get pictures and further details and share them. Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 26 10:38:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5899F2584565 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 10:38:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.159]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270462580821 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 10:37:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Charly (unknown [63.228.115.197]) (Authenticated sender: charly@mitchelplumbing.com) by smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 268E15D804F for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 11:38:41 -0500 (CDT) From: "Charly Mitchel" To: Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 09:38:38 -0700 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: [Fot] =?windows-1252?q?Repeal_the_DOT/EPA_=9325_Year_Rule=94_Car_?= =?windows-1252?q?Import_Ban?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Need more signatures in one week! Charly Mitchel https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/repeal-dotepa-25-year-rule-car-im port-ban-15-years-and-allow-importation-non-conforming-cars-and/PhZ4RMgz _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 26 10:55:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00FC258474D for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 10:55:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy2-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy2-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.18.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A3BF258074F for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 10:55:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 9242 invoked by uid 0); 26 Aug 2014 16:56:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw4) (10.0.90.85) by gproxy2.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2014 16:56:18 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw4 with id jawB1o00C1NzpT901awELL; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 16:56:16 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=3UzmeIr16YsA:10 a=CKWKMDKUlAAA:10 a=yKqyAkVeGwwA:10 a=jPJDawAOAc8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=uFsxnXtSAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=aDEVaHMso9PMO-wy4kYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=50372 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XMK2W-0002bo-DI; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 10:56:12 -0600 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 11:56:07 -0500 To: "Charly Mitchel" , From: Tony Drews References: <93086609A94A4E5FB7E82BE2E8CC1CA1@Charly> {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] =?iso-8859-1?q?Repeal_the_DOT/EPA_=9325_Year_Rule=94_Car__I?= =?iso-8859-1?q?mport_Ban?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This link may work better: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/repeal-dotepa-%E2%80%9C25-year-rule%E2%80%9D-car-import-ban-15-years-and-allow-importation-non-conforming-cars-and/PhZ4RMgz Tony Drews At 11:38 AM 8/26/2014, Charly Mitchel wrote: >Need more signatures in one week! >Charly Mitchel > >https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/repeal-dotepa-25-year-rule-car-im >port-ban-15-years-and-allow-importation-non-conforming-cars-and/PhZ4RMgz >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 26 11:22:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C50A92580877 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 11:22:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f52.google.com (mail-oa0-f52.google.com [209.85.219.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDFA92580841 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 11:21:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id o6so12048787oag.39 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 10:22:16 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VnNqPoiiHuaG/ANzEZiDiMwSiy587+d49dFMtdDqE58=; b=EAQxDeN8SWn8Awg0fXaRPTvJaPBNcRi8wLRwj7tIlar4qaVV7Vvsqd6+0rfIZCXOau 3xqI03Gjj4fcFt3KQHVMVV5MOwtLAJCJoUPm7EWx//nmscJQCK6mAgyMp17Rxb+iYzFv 0qVv66FaKmK7Ie+XFLedhM+S6VhYu2P25xuTbsOppgmOv1ndm0zsR7jwV/2gCYaj4UpV QzuQBDEyAxVQ9nirZbWV2oqzzWHJl3z3j/fr/qnZ8Qu9rUvjoIcVAloxEjkadSS4DJSB W4J/tDuuwHvO962YnnEPJHAzNSdTiOxiFVDKpOz2DOwpxKF27zfYhCzHui8eobGk16vh wMUA== o17mr15288748obe.59.1409073736610; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 10:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (24-121-172-242.npg.sta.suddenlink.net. [24.121.172.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g6sm5343382oex.16.2014.08.26.10.22.15 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 26 Aug 2014 10:22:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 10:22:14 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: FOT References: <93086609A94A4E5FB7E82BE2E8CC1CA1@Charly> <20140826165539.B7D122580831@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] Repeal the DOT/EPA "25 Year Rule" Car Import Ban Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 8/26/14, 9:56 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > This link may work better: > https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/repeal-dotepa-%E2%80%9C25-year-rule%E2%80%9D-car-import-ban-15-years-and-allow-importation-non-conforming-cars-and/PhZ4RMgz > Tony Drews And of course what works best is everyone signing the petition and urging people they know to do the same. TeriAnn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 26 12:43:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A097725808AB for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 12:43:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC0A2580853 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 12:43:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::c167:89f3:ca7b:1966]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::c167:89f3:ca7b:1966%13]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 13:44:35 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: "'TeriAnn J. Wakeman'" , FOT Thread-Topic: [Fot] Repeal the DOT/EPA "25 Year Rule" Car Import Ban Thread-Index: AQHPwVJuzs40HpUJ1kCWf5JSNKFmlZvjONGw Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 18:44:35 +0000 References: <93086609A94A4E5FB7E82BE2E8CC1CA1@Charly> <20140826165539.B7D122580831@autox.team.net> <53FCC246.9040008@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Subject: Re: [Fot] Repeal the DOT/EPA "25 Year Rule" Car Import Ban Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Anybody have a 30-second elevator speech regarding what this petition is about? Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 12:22 PM To: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Repeal the DOT/EPA "25 Year Rule" Car Import Ban On 8/26/14, 9:56 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > This link may work better: > https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/repeal-dotepa-%E2%80%9C25-year-rule %E2%80%9D-car-import-ban-15-years-and-allow-importation-non-conforming-cars-a nd/PhZ4RMgz > Tony Drews And of course what works best is everyone signing the petition and urging people they know to do the same. TeriAnn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 26 12:49:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B264258502E for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 12:49:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm21-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm21-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BBAC258086E for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 12:49:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.180] by nm21.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 2014 18:49:50 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.240] by tm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 2014 18:49:50 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1013.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Aug 2014 18:49:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 63027 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Aug 2014 18:49:50 -0000 s=s1024; t=1409078990; bh=4LY2fXWaPyuU+74MGwIYBFQ8naHoE/1AaoV7/Gl7oIU=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Tw3CiNdOpUJHQQpvR0503r0mVbznf+zFjTWsxJhwUILoZjYi6P7GqTQsAqXSpMqxab3gVJC6hcO/kNBKWmfHaq2HxzcGCZZiftirJDGodUERyT+VQ6pqlt9STB1RKXLI4cy92RDxnziIUR8geR3ijhdWFl2BAMGvRUbylZjmaQo= iTsNpb5PCCYYGdAf04vCsE_.JkWiwW0Uivm3L0o5F3H6EJwQNpTUrdEJ3oj4 oV0r6knHwTMbJoGIP7Lp0wFX5R5yGYIf4JIPcx1Gipd8btCD.ZDlEgu_cVJk GPJ8e_RSBQ5R7yftU4moiZFiRrXW80VE_ANxV55az0HLqNbaWHKDD4MuHPv_ dTUI2XsuCXaMmlduW2WkGsmqVt9BmMkAGfnWjw.LiSxsD4uZc1o5n6GnT5qn IfKhcx7SZcmcISo.i.v_IXm3U_JWQMi7R_fClmfDRw.RTubjeibS8YdsGSj9 g_sUZ0ign.gRVzAEncZr8G3jtUZbbGKlrhb.GcQFQ8A55dYrz5kYaoKoxeOz wnqbZzaRL4n2HbCuQ80fpoCOLdOWre3Et8WCX8ArwymSjPu8HPTHY4RIPh17 YKWJ2nfrZ8siAbRvPWONi9VlAiczPr0DZ136bwnieSm0tyND79KRAxeIfiZV WYU5JNl2Nit57dAHXTeN_jF4NEIy8FF7QCi7WZdMXXEQ24BRo74m5KOlQMAe XXpbasVhdfVHz7COpdvcKyl2EANNVWXlBVxSG8ZlIUw53Npir1c0qTpFY8xy vDe43msB_DpJnXd1ShNGXtvD7W1ebLFC04_hZRzeYIhZX_lrFMzn.1K76eBZ S6EsTKmkM2IthEJQv5.3Erx5KMX_vWfEiNmK9chYrWXaN3yHhe2u02oY- Received: from [204.54.36.245] by web121605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 11:49:50 PDT UmVxdWVzdHMgYSBjaGFuZ2UgaW4gdGhlIGxhd3MgcHJldmVudGluZyBsZWdhbCBpbXBvcnRhdGlvbiBmb3Igcm9hZCB1c2UgY2FycyB0aGF0IGRvbid0IG1lZXQgRVBBIHN0YW5kYXJkcyBmcm9tIGEgMjUgeWVhciByb2xsaW5nIGxpbWl0IHRvIDE1IHllYXJzLgoKCj5fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwo.IEZyb206ICJCYXJyLCBTY290dCIgPHNiYXJyQE1jQ2FydHktTGF3LmNvbT4KPlRvOiAnVGVyaUFubiBKLiBXYWtlbWFuJyA8dGp3YWtlbWFuQGdtYWlsLmNvbT47IEZPVCA8Zm90QGEBMAEBAQE- References: <93086609A94A4E5FB7E82BE2E8CC1CA1@Charly> <20140826165539.B7D122580831@autox.team.net> <53FCC246.9040008@gmail.com> <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B5CABBB@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 11:49:50 -0700 From: Jamie Palmer To: "Barr, Scott" , "'TeriAnn J. Wakeman'" , FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Repeal the DOT/EPA "25 Year Rule" Car Import Ban Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Requests a change in the laws preventing legal importation for road use cars that don't meet EPA standards from a 25 year rolling limit to 15 years. >________________________________ > From: "Barr, Scott" >To: 'TeriAnn J. Wakeman' ; FOT >Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 2:44 PM >Subject: Re: [Fot] Repeal the DOT/EPA "25 Year Rule" Car Import Ban > > >Anybody have a 30-second elevator speech regarding what this petition is >about? > >Scott B. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman >Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 12:22 PM >To: FOT >Subject: Re: [Fot] Repeal the DOT/EPA "25 Year Rule" Car Import Ban > >On 8/26/14, 9:56 AM, Tony Drews wrote: >> This link may work better: >> >https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/repeal-dotepa-%E2%80%9C25-year-rule >%E2%80%9D-car-import-ban-15-years-and-allow-importation-non-conforming-cars-a >nd/PhZ4RMgz >> Tony Drews >And of course what works best is everyone signing the petition and urging >people they know to do the same. > >TeriAnn >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com > > > > >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr6driver@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 26 12:50:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEC525850F6 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 12:50:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy2-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy2-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.18.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id DF2B625808AB for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 12:49:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 9023 invoked by uid 0); 26 Aug 2014 18:50:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by gproxy2.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2014 18:50:39 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw2 with id jWqZ1o00X1NzpT901WqcmS; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 12:50:38 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=AiWZJmgDzW4A:10 a=POQrAqUArPYA:10 a=yKqyAkVeGwwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=a-z5AtPmAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=uFsxnXtSAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=MJIo3LPEAAAA:8 a=SUGK07zxvzeMNsm1_-0A:9 a=HKSI-Dtvzq_1U8xm:21 a=b49Az5kCCCQfHp1L:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=IeVFYImMg6QA:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=51817 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XMLpC-0006xo-2Y; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 12:50:34 -0600 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 13:50:28 -0500 To: "Barr, Scott" , "'TeriAnn J. Wakeman'" ,FOT From: Tony Drews y-law.com> References: <93086609A94A4E5FB7E82BE2E8CC1CA1@Charly> <20140826165539.B7D122580831@autox.team.net> <53FCC246.9040008@gmail.com> <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B5CABBB@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] Repeal the DOT/EPA "25 Year Rule" Car Import Ban Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Here's the whole petition. Takes less than 30 seconds to read, I think: Repeal the DOT/EPA "25 Year Rule" Car Import Ban to 15-years and Allow the Importation of Non-conforming Cars and Trucks The Motor Vehicle Safety Compliance Act of 1988 ended import of grey-market vehicles to the USA. No evidence was presented that grey-import vehicles' safety performance differed significantly from that of US models. * Differences between U.S. vehicle and the rest of the car producing world are shrinking all the time. Most 15-year-old cars coming from Canada, Europe, or Japan will not be significantly different in safety or emissions * Importers of grey-market vehicles have been targeted by monies taxpayers have intended to be used to secure our country against terrorist activity. *There's no reason why rules couldn't be relaxed with no real detriment to safety or environment. http:// www.petrolicious.com/petrolisti-unite-time-to-rewrite-a-foolish-law Tony Drews At 01:44 PM 8/26/2014, Barr, Scott wrote: >Anybody have a 30-second elevator speech regarding what this petition is >about? > >Scott B. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman >Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 12:22 PM >To: FOT >Subject: Re: [Fot] Repeal the DOT/EPA "25 Year Rule" Car Import Ban > >On 8/26/14, 9:56 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > > This link may work better: > > >https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/repeal-dotepa-%E2%80%9C25-year-rule >%E2%80%9D-car-import-ban-15-years-and-allow-importation-non-conforming-cars-a >nd/PhZ4RMgz > > Tony Drews >And of course what works best is everyone signing the petition and urging >people they know to do the same. > >TeriAnn >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 26 12:53:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3265125850FB for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 12:53:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3FE2585032 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 12:53:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.99.34] (c-76-99-23-134.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [76.99.23.134]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NAX00JGMGI0TB00@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 18:54:02 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.27,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-08-26_07:2014-08-26,2014-08-26,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1408260213 From: Scott Janzen Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 14:55:54 -0400 To: FOT References: <93086609A94A4E5FB7E82BE2E8CC1CA1@Charly> <20140826165539.B7D122580831@autox.team.net> <53FCC246.9040008@gmail.com> <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B5CABBB@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <20140826185000.EB01B25850F9@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] Repeal the DOT/EPA "25 Year Rule" Car Import Ban Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net so, what do we all want that is more than 15 and less than 25 years old (cars, I mean) and was not imported to the U.S.? I have to admit everything I really lust after is probably 35+ years old at this time - I'm sure I'm missing something memorable but couldn't tell you what it is. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 26 13:42:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C71A2585091 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 13:42:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5ED2580706 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 13:42:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.71]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id jXHS1o0031Y3wxoA1Xixut; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 19:42:57 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-208v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.176.218]) by omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id jXix1o0024j68Km8bXix9k; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 19:42:57 +0000 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 19:42:56 +0000 (UTC) From: toodamnfunky@comcast.net To: fot (Win)/8.0.3_GA_5664) Thread-Topic: Carb spacers & velocity stack lengths Thread-Index: Kb8aa42BfdtgFxdq1rr85iIOG6KX2A== s=q20140121; t=1409082177; bh=5KjKImI5ixadNnvTEt9yheRTZAl+JestbfJmKu8LsaY=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=Qak5fQCCk3/Yq8C0yFcrJV2OIxEmBYdfHLgSoLdtl9Fj+ABuEVqjo1Xqa6tfSKPkF 56T0aUXEtiK7+xC0uF2/iT7ZyOtAKOl7kLPxg5iOAxkwrhHeJV5e0Ca5wqce+7dDRK 2vltuSGWTsQ3AJ6/1/paXxY3DPri2R0qo6xsE/Ux3HK9EDUdZHreJSPkVspFr5asiq 4uLdsgGgEnoODuI/QzyUGzmFT/o7bvloMsXnQlsWB6Fru1sccwXw84scYaLRmFRuxC 0M1kzxV6ZXd5I4OwPRHgkeNXlXP7ZKg/xflRCQaKBFIpSdhnaLn83rQbMk3GgomqB1 wtdcy5Ythu/Wg== Subject: [Fot] Carb spacers & velocity stack lengths Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Greetings Fot I was wondering if anyone has done any experimentation with carb spacers and/or different lengths of velocity stacks. I'm planning some dyno time in the future and want to make the best of it. Thanks as always, jim g _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 26 14:34:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD58F258511D for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 14:34:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E866B258087E for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 14:34:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mba01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mba01.mx.aol.com [172.26.133.109]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 69F8370000089; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 16:34:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mba01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id D1B153800009D; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 16:34:47 -0400 (EDT) References: <132413303.7814750.1409082176904.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> From: Joe Alexander Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 15:34:46 -0500 To: "toodamnfunky@comcast.net" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1409085288; bh=xYbRHbo3SlmPjkQjk/5HqtTDwz+qvm5Qm9aOQzEyiTg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=X0xc0dZvMZyA+YNbYbyCwJjrI9NNhSjKvZDH3GAVuBU5Mh9jOWNbVcw5MERujDBF8 0LXFgkmcd5M/D68Vil0eHGEs391K8JmWK5Se/hGwPIILLoChhe6TND50AmlOfS+aNO JNsMOGYjK34tOlwKKLIxw9SWIMGQaULNkZqNPTGM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a856d53fcef677831 Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Carb spacers & velocity stack lengths Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net One of our guys in the NW took the Kastner stacks and cut them. Then he took rubber tube the right size to bring those pieces back together again. It occurs to me that this could be done and move the pieces like a trombone. Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Aug 26, 2014, at 2:42 PM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: > > Greetings Fot > I was wondering if anyone has done any experimentation with carb spacers and/or different lengths of velocity stacks. > I'm planning some dyno time in the future and want to make the best of it. > Thanks as always, > jim g > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 26 15:47:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C0F25851CB for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 15:47:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from COL004-OMC2S11.hotmail.com (col004-omc2s11.hotmail.com [65.55.34.85]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5D32585186 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 15:47:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from COL130-DS8 ([65.55.34.73]) by COL004-OMC2S11.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Tue, 26 Aug 2014 14:48:21 -0700 From: "Terry Stetler" To: "FOT" , "Scott Janzen" References: <93086609A94A4E5FB7E82BE2E8CC1CA1@Charly> <20140826165539.B7D122580831@autox.team.net> <53FCC246.9040008@gmail.com> <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B5CABBB@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <20140826185000.EB01B25850F9@autox.team.net> <4081C11D-99F0-479E-8CA8-FDDEA572656D@me.com> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 17:48:19 -0400 <20140826165539.B7D122580831@autox.team.net> <53FCC246.9040008@gmail.com> <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B5CABBB@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <20140826185000.EB01B25850F9@autox.team.net> <4081C11D-99F0-479E-8CA8-FDDEA572656D@me.com> Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 17:48:19 -0400 FILETIME=[743E4260:01CFC177] Subject: Re: [Fot] Repeal the DOT/EPA "25 Year Rule" Car Import Ban Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Nissan Skyline, though the first R 32s have just become eligible. But the one I want from Japan is the Honda Beat. 83bhp out of a normally aspirated 660cc engine. A mid engine micro roadster that can exceed 100mph and return hybrid like fuel economy, without being dull, and with Honda reliability. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Repeal the DOT/EPA "25 Year Rule" Car Import Ban so, what do we all want that is more than 15 and less than 25 years old (cars, I mean) and was not imported to the U.S.? I have to admit everything I really lust after is probably 35+ years old at this time - I'm sure I'm missing something memorable but couldn't tell you what it is. _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tlizzard@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 26 16:12:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D339A25851A7 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 16:12:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f177.google.com (mail-ob0-f177.google.com [209.85.214.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6CD6258095F for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 16:12:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f177.google.com with SMTP id wp18so11899559obc.22 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 15:13:12 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HRpb0xCZ93yF+Bmj1hzHVRYtGw+LB3D8pWjKJLvcLt0=; b=IHSeTScHB3tf+lpT0rFuKjQjBJA8wwQN3UNnsITouEHb+xuLrmuObqvSNeoX0dWX4M ZtVMvqu5vxc41Khe6NEMZWBufRzskwmJvQkUnJvZW0icsgAI7JvA5W0TpAE0HK6NhcYp XSgo4dOx+TfTEBjM6UP74cvmLvEcMwG6ZWdOxtRFIXGKoVXp2H16aY/CaorPj4sLmQd3 IcbPVhnEKsCH8cEUPjBq8FMerAN7PoZLZRZvCblQHwimSzfJccgbHebr+ltFHRhcunpS aT94/eDZFlzQkDMz/G2bTfbdv+KYU853gosDh4bOs3pxih0lmB0dvGyRVkRH1i6Fdvey FGeA== jo5mr30326241oeb.39.1409091192904; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 15:13:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (24-121-172-242.npg.sta.suddenlink.net. [24.121.172.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r19sm4332630obt.26.2014.08.26.15.13.11 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 26 Aug 2014 15:13:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 15:13:10 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: FOT References: <93086609A94A4E5FB7E82BE2E8CC1CA1@Charly> <20140826165539.B7D122580831@autox.team.net> <53FCC246.9040008@gmail.com> <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B5CABBB@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <20140826185000.EB01B25850F9@autox.team.net> <4081C11D-99F0-479E-8CA8-FDDEA572656D@me.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Repeal the DOT/EPA "25 Year Rule" Car Import Ban Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 8/26/14, 2:48 PM, Terry Stetler wrote: > Nissan Skyline, though the first R 32s have just become eligible. > > > But the one I want from Japan is the Honda Beat. > > Well there are folks who would like newer Land Rover Defenders and some who want newer old style Minis amongst others. How about a Jag with diesel V6 or V8? Just sign it as a public service and not for whats in it for you. TeriAnn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 26 16:55:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F3525851A6 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 16:55:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0657C258511E for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 16:54:57 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge03 smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.174.248] ([107.14.174.248:48765] helo=cdptpa-web24) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 76/76-31046-D601DF35; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 22:55:41 +0000 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 22:55:41 +0000 From: Randall To: FOT Sensitivity: Normal 2014 22:55:41 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] Repeal the DOT/EPA "25 Year Rule" Car Import Ban Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > * Differences between U.S. vehicle and the rest of the car producing > world are shrinking all the time. Most 15-year-old cars coming from > Canada, Europe, or Japan will not be significantly different in > safety or emissions The Lotus Elise was introduced to the rest of the world in 2001. Took them 4 years to get permission to import it here, and even then they had to get a special NHTSA exemption (as well as using a completely different engine that made less power). As I recall, the US version was heavier, too. Seems pretty significant to me. Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 27 05:18:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 447752580946 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 05:18:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bl2lp0209.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.209]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2046025804F3 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 05:17:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.255.189.16) by BLUPR04MB856.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.255.189.19) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1015.19; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 11:17:50 +0000 Received: from BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.189.16]) by BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.189.16]) with mapi id 15.00.1015.018; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 11:17:50 +0000 From: Michael Moore To: "fot@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: Caliper Rebuild Thread-Index: Ac/B5/6vDZF0BiMcS6Kt1ZZeR+Tu9A== Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 11:17:49 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [24.165.139.19] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;UriScan:; x-forefront-prvs: 0316567485 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(6009001)(189002)(199003)(99936001)(31966008)(19300405004)(107886001)(106356001)(101416001)(20776003)(76576001)(95666004)(90102001)(74662001)(21056001)(221733001)(81542001)(74502001)(19625215002)(66066001)(19613025002)(105586002)(64706001)(54356999)(50986999)(107046002)(46102001)(99396002)(15975445006)(74316001)(80022001)(19627405001)(76482001)(4396001)(2656002)(86362001)(108616004)(85852003)(18206015026)(110136001)(19627595001)(15202345003)(79102001)(81342001)(83072002)(2351001)(77982001)(16236675004)(19580395003)(17760045003)(87936001)(85306004)(92566001)(83322001)(229853001)(19580405001)(33646002)(2501001)(24736002); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:BLUPR04MB856; H:BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:0; LANG:en; Subject: [Fot] Caliper Rebuild Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net After my weekend at Grattan I noticed my Girling caliper was weaping a little fluid out of top center. Can these be rebuilt? Moss says NO in their catalog. I took it apart and it is a simple O-ring that needs replaced. Thanks Mike 62 TR4, Race car 63 TR4, Street car Mike & Becky Moore 6050 Ruhl Road Fairview, PA 16415 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 27 05:46:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8454E25851E2 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 05:46:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9219125803B3 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 05:46:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (pool-71-162-132-246.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [71.162.132.246]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NAY008T9RE3X680@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 11:47:00 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.27,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-08-27_04:2014-08-27,2014-08-27,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1408270138 References: <473fe206229b4328a64f707a17ca0e1c@BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> From: SCOTT JANZEN Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 07:46:50 -0400 To: Michael Moore Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Caliper Rebuild Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I rebuild or inspect my calipers (girling 16P) probably twice a season. Get stainless steel pistons, and the seal rebuild kits- I've been getting them from Team Triumph. The SS pistons will not rust, clean up readily with a soft application of scotch brite and brake cleaner so they'll last pretty much forever. You are not terribly concerned about the condition of the bores, as long as there is no rust or scale, as unlike a MC the piston slides on the seal, rather than the seal sliding in the bore. There is no need or point in separating the caliper halves. I got in the habit of regular rebuilds after one particularly hot weekend where I loaded my car in the trailer after the last race, and unloaded to find a puddle of fluid by the LF wheel. The seal had just cooked! Sent from my mobile device > On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:17 AM, Michael Moore wrote: > > After my weekend at Grattan I noticed my Girling caliper was weaping a little > fluid out of top center. > > Can these be rebuilt? Moss says NO in their catalog. > > I took it apart and it is a simple O-ring that needs replaced. > > > > Thanks > Mike > > 62 TR4, Race car > 63 TR4, Street car > > Mike & Becky Moore > 6050 Ruhl Road > Fairview, PA 16415 > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 27 05:57:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21E32585279 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 05:57:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m05.mx.aol.com (omr-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFBBD2580818 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 05:57:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mbd01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mbd01.mx.aol.com [172.26.252.13]) by omr-m05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 33DC6700000A3; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 07:58:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mbd01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id C12423800009A; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 07:58:02 -0400 (EDT) References: <473fe206229b4328a64f707a17ca0e1c@BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 06:58:01 -0500 To: SCOTT JANZEN x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1409140686; bh=Aw8OR/M+qwG8MRVsrBSL3LlrEQc0cFZoR02YSPUcpno=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=Py0WFix9Rv/PdLA0myJZty0zgLzk+F7zvtN6oz3POrR0ekQZBgZLQp1R04VC1SBLz 4ir+wgIOozOLJVAfunWa0FOZ86NivuzJu/OQZgS7LIecAo2bZC0GSTap1MkDDvHg5o 4cq/S7vws4xr+odL1eVhLRebk9fXqvRq8bmqwP4Q= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afc0d53fdc7ca578a Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Caliper Rebuild Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Speaking of caliper seals..... Chris Marx left with us, several sets of his seals for calipers. It was a special run with a superior material. We are successfully using them in our car. We can ship them to you.....you can pay Chris thru PayPal. Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Aug 27, 2014, at 6:46 AM, SCOTT JANZEN wrote: > > I rebuild or inspect my calipers (girling 16P) probably twice a season. Get > stainless steel pistons, and the seal rebuild kits- I've been getting them > from Team Triumph. The SS pistons will not rust, clean up readily with a soft > application of scotch brite and brake cleaner so they'll last pretty much > forever. You are not terribly concerned about the condition of the bores, as > long as there is no rust or scale, as unlike a MC the piston slides on the > seal, rather than the seal sliding in the bore. There is no need or point in > separating the caliper halves. > I got in the habit of regular rebuilds after one particularly hot weekend > where I loaded my car in the trailer after the last race, and unloaded to find > a puddle of fluid by the LF wheel. The seal had just cooked! > > Sent from my mobile device > >> On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:17 AM, Michael Moore wrote: >> >> After my weekend at Grattan I noticed my Girling caliper was weaping a > little >> fluid out of top center. >> >> Can these be rebuilt? Moss says NO in their catalog. >> >> I took it apart and it is a simple O-ring that needs replaced. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> Mike >> >> 62 TR4, Race car >> 63 TR4, Street car >> >> Mike & Becky Moore >> 6050 Ruhl Road >> Fairview, PA 16415 >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of > image001.gif] >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 27 06:19:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1AA225852A1 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 06:19:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm18-vm10.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm18-vm10.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.89]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7BD258094C for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 06:19:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.160] by nm18.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Aug 2014 12:19:58 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.134] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Aug 2014 12:19:58 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1010.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Aug 2014 12:19:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 87379 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Aug 2014 12:19:58 -0000 s=s1024; t=1409141998; bh=TkLcPuYKRgv3LPr99tzIRLt7zxCyPXonA3wA9YPLBI0=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RxEj/IZ3tO+xhpXxmBoSAMtZhiFoNLfjKhpnsOhQ3wTt9gFFZNdRxmqnAXXxNfZsxU/ZiOK26FJ/JkiVJyZ2A1eRB3NxT5dlsr4ioR5crW0OKE0xZnLopyK9xklVgDuYNLchY/Aq9OvqJY/fH5YP2iYBzkzeW7825ItCmSlXMmw= nO6AOQKODs4IS8xYM2p2wZRhb8.T.ZknL.WXtSxEtwocvR.5yTITVIClzRV7 zQSCyhG_7667Z83LhQKzxYGkjfCvaHFgAFUUUEwQWv3ANHr5SZ.7IJx4wvLd kN4ddQ4CK0_BxN2i67Kefvq2BmI4ifGKv27M_aBSyAeZOaqH06MOemWJjyMk xmd3q6k1hbh6hIkkOxAnDXkTDmeXG2_nOcoNl70tUQ_9.vaEf94G31.PTF2R CdV70qJ4spYSuq_LfkuhIXQg1K1HUk2Ay9J6JZNC7J4t3ElyXxFgtjzxEtTs uY5NopTKwVyCB0jIXMV5rs7vQTo4RDAmcauN6VlTCmQV1FYtVX4JeAOveyuM coJglPg6KIF_G_xPruUM6UVV1tIkCt9o9VO.HrPeto05BeMSrJVE9emzKF_b UZXT_9ANzGVgT2iKIOTTMLmCHt1Cxvi5tf7BiPs3d0was8OBaGc88WYE8b9L SZfmcDu1GudRt_HB.uzZ.3ZAXKhnQY3KZlEbtJo9Du6ad1A0nfpYNtMAVf5K b2qIkbq.mG0F6vMSdxyb_Nwu00QIPmM79Is7mJ.O9.urqBqdPz0TjmzrNIXH PAw9zqM.VKESw3vEQ3TaYp3Q- Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web184701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 05:19:58 PDT WWVzLCB0aGV5IGNhbiBiZSByZWJ1aWx0LiBUaGUgIk8iIHJpbmdzIGFyZSBhdmFpbGFibGUgZnJvbSBNb3NzIGZvciBhIHNtYWxsIGFtb3VudC4uLnBpY2stdXAgYSBmZXcuIFRoZXkgYXJlIGEgd2VpcmQsIHNxdWFyZSBjcm9zcyBzZWN0aW9uYWwgcmluZy4gVGhlIHJlYXNvbiBNb3NzIGFuZCB0aGUgc2hvcCBtYW51YWwgc2F5cyB0aGV5IHNob3VsZG4ndCBiZSBvcGVuZWQgaXMgYmVjYXVzZSB0aGVyZSBkb2Vzbid0IGFwcGVhciB0byBiZSBhbnkgcmVjb3JkZWQgdG9ycXVlIGZvciB0aGUgZm91ciBib2x0cy4BMAEBAQE- References: <473fe206229b4328a64f707a17ca0e1c@BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 05:19:58 -0700 From: EDWARD BARNARD To: Michael Moore , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Caliper Rebuild Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, they can be rebuilt. The "O" rings are available from Moss for a small amount...pick-up a few. They are a weird, square cross sectional ring. The reason Moss and the shop manual says they shouldn't be opened is because there doesn't appear to be any recorded torque for the four bolts. Use good practice in torqueing these...I don't remember what diameter they are but torque them to the appropriate spec for that diameter bolt. -Ed- On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 6:18 AM, Michael Moore wrote: After my weekend at Grattan I noticed my Girling caliper was weaping a little fluid out of top center. Can these be rebuilt? Moss says NO in their catalog. I took it apart and it is a simple O-ring that needs replaced. Thanks Mike 62 TR4, Race car 63 TR4, Street car Mike & Becky Moore 6050 Ruhl Road Fairview, PA 16415 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 27 06:26:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E4825852DB for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 06:26:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from na01-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-by2lp0235.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.235]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8884C2585295 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 06:24:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.255.189.16) by BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.255.189.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1015.19; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 12:25:13 +0000 Received: from BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.189.16]) by BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.189.16]) with mapi id 15.00.1015.018; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 12:25:13 +0000 From: Michael Moore To: Joe Alexander , SCOTT JANZEN Thread-Topic: [Fot] Caliper Rebuild Thread-Index: Ac/B5/6vDZF0BiMcS6Kt1ZZeR+Tu9AABJfoAAABj/IAAAOuL0A== Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 12:25:13 +0000 References: <473fe206229b4328a64f707a17ca0e1c@BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [24.165.139.19] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;UriScan:; x-forefront-prvs: 0316567485 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(6009001)(199003)(189002)(377454003)(69224002)(13464003)(24454002)(51704005)(2656002)(85306004)(4396001)(108616004)(83322001)(74662001)(19580405001)(19580395003)(74502001)(66066001)(20776003)(99396002)(86362001)(15202345003)(74316001)(107046002)(64706001)(80022001)(90102001)(33646002)(106356001)(101416001)(16601075003)(92566001)(87936001)(105586002)(79102001)(77982001)(83072002)(54356999)(76482001)(85852003)(31966008)(46102001)(76576001)(15975445006)(21056001)(95666004)(76176999)(81342001)(50986999)(81542001)(24736002); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:BLUPR04MB855; H:BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:0; MX:1; LANG:en; Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Caliper Rebuild Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for all the feedback Thanks Mike 62 TR4, Race car 63 TR4, Street car Mike & Becky Moore 6050 Ruhl Road Fairview, PA 16415 -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander [mailto:n197tr4@cs.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 7:58 AM To: SCOTT JANZEN Cc: Michael Moore; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Caliper Rebuild Speaking of caliper seals..... Chris Marx left with us, several sets of his seals for calipers. It was a special run with a superior material. We are successfully using them in our car. We can ship them to you.....you can pay Chris thru PayPal. Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Aug 27, 2014, at 6:46 AM, SCOTT JANZEN wrote: > > I rebuild or inspect my calipers (girling 16P) probably twice a > season. Get stainless steel pistons, and the seal rebuild kits- I've > been getting them from Team Triumph. The SS pistons will not rust, > clean up readily with a soft application of scotch brite and brake > cleaner so they'll last pretty much forever. You are not terribly > concerned about the condition of the bores, as long as there is no > rust or scale, as unlike a MC the piston slides on the seal, rather > than the seal sliding in the bore. There is no need or point in separating the caliper halves. > I got in the habit of regular rebuilds after one particularly hot > weekend where I loaded my car in the trailer after the last race, and > unloaded to find a puddle of fluid by the LF wheel. The seal had just cooked! > > Sent from my mobile device > >> On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:17 AM, Michael Moore wrote: >> >> After my weekend at Grattan I noticed my Girling caliper was weaping >> a > little >> fluid out of top center. >> >> Can these be rebuilt? Moss says NO in their catalog. >> >> I took it apart and it is a simple O-ring that needs replaced. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> Mike >> >> 62 TR4, Race car >> 63 TR4, Street car >> >> Mike & Becky Moore >> 6050 Ruhl Road >> Fairview, PA 16415 >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a >> name of > image001.gif] >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 27 07:12:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC2C2580B27 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 07:12:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dfn.com (mail.dfn.com [74.116.128.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13DB02580A1B for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 07:12:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.3] [216.223.227.106] by dfn.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-12.3.0.100) id e5d0000599ed51f2; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 07:13:02 -0600 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 07:12:52 -0600 From: Michael Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: EDWARD BARNARD , Michael Moore , "fot@autox.team.net" References: <473fe206229b4328a64f707a17ca0e1c@BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> <1409141998.36504.YahooMailNeo@web184701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Caliper Rebuild Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 8/27/2014 6:19 AM, EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Yes, they can be rebuilt. The "O" rings are available from Moss for a small > amount...pick-up a few. They are a weird, square cross sectional ring. The > reason Moss and the shop manual says they shouldn't be opened is because there > doesn't appear to be any recorded torque for the four bolts. Use good practice > in torqueing these...I don't remember what diameter they are but torque them > to the appropriate spec for that diameter bolt. > -Ed- > > > If those o-rings aren't available, round ones would probably do (the originals are likely EPDM or SBR), but their cross-sectional area would have to be calculated from the originals, to properly fill the land, with a little extra to provide for adequate compression to seal properly. The torques have to be in the archives somewhere, because this topic has come up at least a couple of times before, albeit quite a while ago. Don't quote me (I could be having a senior moment), but the figures that stick in my mind are 40 lb-ft for the smaller bolt and 66 lb-ft for the larger ones. Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 27 08:05:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570CE258529C for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 08:05:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d10.mx.aol.com (omr-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E07925808D3 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 08:05:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mbe01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mbe01.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.175]) by omr-d10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 64B0B700496F7; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 10:06:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-lga08e.mail.aol.com (core-lga08.mail.aol.com [10.76.11.8]) by mtaomg-mbe01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 74D3C38000086; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 10:06:20 -0400 (EDT) To: edwardbarnard@prodigy.net, mmoore@mtmcpafirm.com, fot@autox.team.net From: fubog1 Received: from 98.77.30.10 by webmail-m290.sysops.aol.com (64.12.152.48) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 27 Aug 2014 10:06:19 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 10:06:20 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1409148381; bh=yMRFnKeIHvuWkrCw8InCvOufaCNoyXr2ja2+1NKi/U4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=emH7blvYGQOyjjPbKYSTCsFWifg3VUnSn4QrN4Ah2Oipr6GttjvNeBAcNZzHTL1f9 98VBzjMmZ9Euo/sAMQa2KvLR3TlrIrNd+Flz3RF0rAJJ6g+NQR9aUuSj9DGfcoJmOm gLZgmLXjXXDtyN6NM6R6UJspdICIho64Ae0RSKE8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afeaf53fde5dc6283 Subject: Re: [Fot] Caliper Rebuild Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I always look at splitting the calipers kinda like the mattress tags, "don't remove under penalty of law"... (grin) I always split them, have for years. With clean oiled threads, or loctited blue and torqued immediately, I usually find them wanting about 42 ish on the 3/8, and 60ish on the 7/16. Glen -----Original Message----- From: EDWARD BARNARD To: Michael Moore ; fot Sent: Wed, Aug 27, 2014 9:39 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Caliper Rebuild Yes, they can be rebuilt. The "O" rings are available from Moss for a small amount...pick-up a few. They are a weird, square cross sectional ring. The reason Moss and the shop manual says they shouldn't be opened is because there doesn't appear to be any recorded torque for the four bolts. Use good practice in torqueing these...I don't remember what diameter they are but torque them to the appropriate spec for that diameter bolt. -Ed- On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 6:18 AM, Michael Moore wrote: After my weekend at Grattan I noticed my Girling caliper was weaping a little fluid out of top center. Can these be rebuilt? Moss says NO in their catalog. I took it apart and it is a simple O-ring that needs replaced. Thanks Mike 62 TR4, Race car 63 TR4, Street car Mike & Becky Moore 6050 Ruhl Road Fairview, PA 16415 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 27 08:17:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057112585359 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 08:17:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f41.google.com (mail-oi0-f41.google.com [209.85.218.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E23FE2580A14 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 08:17:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f41.google.com with SMTP id a141so188977oig.0 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 07:17:59 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jlIBuJFy379VlJWBP0+WnyN1wwzrwC1GxnFjIlIqJoM=; b=ZqIwlSkq7pcv7v19bjPZpeDVLmzFw/M0iMdudkYW9IcnS7/0CqRcXqIY3KqzuEx82T 55Ugqa1ctGe1uIrJjMj4kqRAqd8KawNSi2rNEVvNyBUnvCNN4K9B1N1T8MsmTAs7NEEj nJevLxBt5aQk4QPGGlrpEDYMxbNg+o9/nfYhrA9YOY6zly8LQa2HZX14wiW9y7aWkF0W U6hmvYvKwO/aebX70xc8WOjCoRUMVhkvfFPdsJjqal2PysHpEU1t+4wXzEZnnUhC36Lj wlB01B0lTY8DH6k7i3dUMX49YpRI/058H0eOF3XzljT0B+mJA79osniGRXa9uZa0eBLs vOUw== jg3mr34138014obb.9.1409149079192; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 07:17:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Duncans-MacBook-Pro.local (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id at11sm512954obd.21.2014.08.27.07.17.58 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 27 Aug 2014 07:17:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 09:17:58 -0500 From: Duncan Charlton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <132413303.7814750.1409082176904.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] Carb spacers & velocity stack lengths Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Jim, I assume you already looked at Kas' books but didn't find precisely what you needed -- David Vizard's tuning books have a lot of dyno-proven information in them. Duncan On Aug 26, 2014, at 2:42 PM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: Greetings Fot I was wondering if anyone has done any experimentation with carb spacers and/or different lengths of velocity stacks. I'm planning some dyno time in the future and want to make the best of it. Thanks as always, jim g _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 27 08:21:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60172258536D for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 08:21:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11BD2580A14 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 08:21:46 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: dnvrco-oedge02 smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.70.248] ([107.14.70.248:43338] helo=dnvrco-web23) by dnvrco-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 0E/5E-08080-7A9EDF35; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 14:22:31 +0000 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 14:22:31 +0000 From: To: "fot@autox.team.net" , Michael Moore , EDWARD BARNARD Sensitivity: Normal Aug 2014 14:22:31 +0000 a=wAyFwspFC75BjEd6OtOw1g==:117 a=wAyFwspFC75BjEd6OtOw1g==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=4s1BqdOXTz0A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=lcFKycKxAAAA:8 a=WtWJByInAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=yYsc6sMhG8Sj0_EMLKAA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=d2ijSB9aOkYA:10 a=b1Mx5VLTUs0A:10 Subject: Re: [Fot] Caliper Rebuild Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I always split them and yes the seals are available. It is so much easier to get them clean this way. I end up rebuilding rusty old cores and I am always chasing threads and media blasting the calipers. I wouldn't trust air alone to remove all that crud without splitting them. BPNW used to sell nitrided pucks and they are a lot cheaper then the SS versions. In the few years of use I have found them to work fine and resist rust. Then again I bleed the brakes a lot so the moisture isn't there. Bob Kramer rkramer3@austin.rr.com ---- EDWARD BARNARD wrote: > Yes, they can be rebuilt. The "O" rings are available from Moss for a small > amount...pick-up a few. They are a weird, square cross sectional ring. The > reason Moss and the shop manual says they shouldn't be opened is because there > doesn't appear to be any recorded torque for the four bolts. Use good practice > in torqueing these...I don't remember what diameter they are but torque them > to the appropriate spec for that diameter bolt. > -Ed- > > > On Wednesday, August > 27, 2014 6:18 AM, Michael Moore wrote: > > > > After my > weekend at Grattan I noticed my Girling caliper was weaping a little > fluid out > of top center. > > Can these be rebuilt? Moss says NO in their catalog. > > I took > it apart and it is a simple O-ring that needs replaced. > > > > Thanks > Mike > > 62 > TR4, Race car > 63 TR4, Street car > > Mike & Becky Moore > 6050 Ruhl Road > Fairview, > PA 16415 > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a > name of image001.gif] > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: > http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 27 10:01:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C46C25809C0 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 10:01:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E6442580793 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 10:01:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.148.60.115] ([98.148.60.115:55003] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 14/E4-14619-BE00EF35; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 16:01:47 +0000 From: "Randall" To: Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 09:01:48 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac/B+Kt6i7kAMJnpQHiignC/v3z7SgAFsWxA Subject: Re: [Fot] Caliper Rebuild Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > The torques have to be in the archives somewhere, because > this topic has come up at least a couple of times before, > albeit quite a > while ago. I've got two posts saved in my personal archives. Both agree on 45 ft-lb for the 5/16" and 75 ft-lb for the 3/8". One post from Brian Schlorff at Power British; the other originally posted by Cliff Hansen (reposted by John Lye) and crediting TRF tech support for the info. TRF also offers the O-rings, which as I recall are slightly rectangular in cross section rather than square. Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 27 14:48:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A399325844AD for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 14:48:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d07.mx.aol.com (omr-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B084E2580904 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 14:48:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aai02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aai02.mx.aol.com [172.27.2.100]) by omr-d07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 469AC702E558F; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 16:48:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mle001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mle001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.126.196]) by mtaomg-aai02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0C28038000081; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 16:48:53 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from 70.194.102.204 by webmail-d235.sysops.aol.com (149.174.160.240) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 27 Aug 2014 16:48:52 -0400 From: billdentin@aol.com Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 16:48:52 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1409172533; bh=9q4rdcZRJYaDNKv6BNolLWkEdA5vrD/aj5Hjp7dJS7A=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LL9HMhRJLCinmYPJS3/+r4ChKExH3tTVX0Lt3qcU3KLya47npbM15iLQTV/ndWY/e F/NVfzAW4G1MN/7dFhbhF1q2I7kQVDsGP5++edVu9OF07nuaHFjsTQJn38ljRjYH18 fW/ZZ28zBRht0mjJCSDOfoafw9VRtWdA0O6JDolg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b026453fe443522ca Cc: paulricco@att.net Subject: [Fot] Bob Wismer's TR4 racecar... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici... I would like to nominate PAUL RICCO for membership in the FRIENDS of TRIUMPH. Paul is located in southeastern Wisconsin. He just purchased (and picked up) Bob Wismer's TR4 racecar. He hopes to enter the Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival event at Road America next month, where he will break in a fresh engine. He is an experienced racer, and holds both an SCCA license and an SVRA vintage license. But he is concerned that he knows little or nothing about TRIUMPHs. He would benefit greatly by being included on the FOT List. He is excited to own an 'era correct' TR4 racecar, and I am sure Paul will grow to love the TRIUMPH marque as we do. I am particularly excited to know that Bob Wismer's TR4 will continue to compete here in the midwest, although Paul is already talking about making trips to Limerock, Mid-Ohio, and Watkins Glen. Paul's email address is: paulricco@att.net, May I have a SECOND please? Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 27 14:59:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A0425844DD for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 14:59:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (isis.mit.edu [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB312580B11 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 14:58:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s7RKxBH4002325; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 16:59:11 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 16:59:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: billdentin@aol.com References: <8D1904F7215C9C6-2298-3293D@webmail-d235.sysops.aol.com> Cc: fot@autox.team.net, paulricco@att.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Bob Wismer's TR4 racecar... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net SECOND Welcome, Paul. Regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 billdentin@aol.com wrote: > Amici... > > I would like to nominate PAUL RICCO for membership in the FRIENDS > of TRIUMPH. Paul is located in southeastern Wisconsin. He just purchased > (and picked up) Bob Wismer's TR4 racecar. He hopes to enter the Elkhart Lake > Vintage Festival event at Road America next month, where he will break in a > fresh engine. He is an experienced racer, and holds both an SCCA license and > an SVRA vintage license. But he is concerned that he knows little or nothing > about TRIUMPHs. He would benefit greatly by being included on the FOT List. > He is excited to own an 'era correct' TR4 racecar, and I am sure Paul will > grow to love the TRIUMPH marque as we do. > > I am particularly excited to know > that Bob Wismer's TR4 will continue to compete here in the midwest, although > Paul is already talking about making trips to Limerock, Mid-Ohio, and Watkins > Glen. > > Paul's email address is: paulricco@att.net, May I have a SECOND > please? > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/lang@isis.mit.edu _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 27 15:59:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C5632584501 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 15:59:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m04.mx.aol.com (omr-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5215C25844A4 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 15:59:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aam02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aam02.mx.aol.com [172.27.19.148]) by omr-m04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id DBAC170000096 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:00:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-aea07d.mail.aol.com (core-aea07.mail.aol.com [172.27.23.7]) by mtaomg-aam02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1FB4838000087 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:00:27 -0400 (EDT) References: <14.E4.14619.BE00EF35@cdptpa-oedge01> To: fot@autox.team.net From: robertten1@aol.com Received: from 76.119.63.157 by webmail-d282.sysops.aol.com (205.188.93.229) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:00:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:00:27 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1409176827; bh=T+lPQ7hc5LrIgFJ8qQHIY3bZjE9RS6LCtxWTNVeDhHw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kLale2/Bsif3RAVYOvc0LdB6QJWnt2T2TJv9EMeJeasonmc8mixIDmoRSTmRltRSy Zoiqd1nRKLOtMvPWvPWX7w3reiFzh7I5MCeGQ4aST+QCAgqp2GS8w+qf9xr82EeiVu 0iOSeMW5Iltiqx+/juguODNycdJ1KkS2SWJMpyrg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b139453fe54fb683e Subject: Re: [Fot] Caliper Rebuild Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici, I have several of the square o-rings use in the calipers cross over port. I could send a couple if you send a pre stamped envelope to me. Contact off line, Bob T "64 SpitGT autocrosser -----Original Message----- From: Randall To: fot Sent: Wed, Aug 27, 2014 12:02 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Caliper Rebuild > The torques have to be in the archives somewhere, because > this topic has come up at least a couple of times before, > albeit quite a > while ago. I've got two posts saved in my personal archives. Both agree on 45 ft-lb for the 5/16" and 75 ft-lb for the 3/8". One post from Brian Schlorff at Power British; the other originally posted by Cliff Hansen (reposted by John Lye) and crediting TRF tech support for the info. TRF also offers the O-rings, which as I recall are slightly rectangular in cross section rather than square. Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 27 16:13:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0D025846FC for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 16:13:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy1-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy1-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.25.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 58185258468D for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 16:12:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 25032 invoked by uid 0); 27 Aug 2014 22:13:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by gproxy1.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 2014 22:13:12 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw2 with id jyD61o0041NzpT901yD9Xg; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 16:13:11 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=M_NzdRSNBu4A:10 a=ui7qcTUrHsoA:10 a=yKqyAkVeGwwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=qeKIYoMt0ura5BogA70A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=mRecG10Zj4wA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=61340 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XMlSk-0002Ts-PU; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 16:13:06 -0600 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 17:13:01 -0500 To: billdentin@aol.com,fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews References: <8D1904F7215C9C6-2298-3293D@webmail-d235.sysops.aol.com> {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Cc: paulricco@att.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Bob Wismer's TR4 racecar... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Third! Tony At 03:48 PM 8/27/2014, billdentin@aol.com wrote: >Amici... > >I would like to nominate PAUL RICCO for membership in the FRIENDS >of TRIUMPH. Paul is located in southeastern Wisconsin. He just purchased >(and picked up) Bob Wismer's TR4 racecar. He hopes to enter the Elkhart Lake >Vintage Festival event at Road America next month, where he will break in a >fresh engine. He is an experienced racer, and holds both an SCCA license and >an SVRA vintage license. But he is concerned that he knows little or nothing >about TRIUMPHs. He would benefit greatly by being included on the FOT List. >He is excited to own an 'era correct' TR4 racecar, and I am sure Paul will >grow to love the TRIUMPH marque as we do. > >I am particularly excited to know >that Bob Wismer's TR4 will continue to compete here in the midwest, although >Paul is already talking about making trips to Limerock, Mid-Ohio, and Watkins >Glen. > >Paul's email address is: paulricco@att.net, May I have a SECOND >please? > >Bill Dentinger >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 27 16:32:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F8F425846EB for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 16:32:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB662584457 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 16:32:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.51]) by qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id jySl1o00816LCl054yZ17y; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 22:33:01 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-162v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.48.196]) by omta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id jyX11o00H4DyWjm3SyX1Y3; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 22:31:01 +0000 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 22:31:00 +0000 (UTC) From: cudapilot@comcast.net To: Tony Drews References: <8D1904F7215C9C6-2298-3293D@webmail-d235.sysops.aol.com> <20140827221308.9CDDE25846E3@autox.team.net> (Win)/8.0.3_GA_5664) Thread-Topic: Bob Wismer's TR4 racecar... Thread-Index: 2zrzcQLzVKzCH4cScPf37B6LXOHW7Q== s=q20140121; t=1409178781; bh=StteWgNOjqhC+ZR2uC2q9NE4ECdG+gmiHucLFiKvRzI=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=Ps02B1/DFUC9IpWGZPgX9eM86xBvHs5pqET9XWiUMK/FIs2Ox8AIjZyIfeLzDwMNw woWhBrts008fk4WbzhWIiHRGIc02pxdLQ1FPQLZkne7i4b6IFcvuOvNrbl4oepHAFa oXXZw5LuAAzwFa3CtutSXFEmUJSoSUfAAq3JVuFpaN18BEb8ubKaxBO+wSwHSsS6Xz b7tyge5FgnRmG43KYmHEzAqONm43+EvqPR5OJ/ORLgJtPdS80E68aHR7+hFhj1QEnA MEzpf13K9bnA8+fbACCN+LXwtQfuaOXvmD80LAXCuhHBswyXir1jQFvMLApVHS/L2Z vOtvVZU5ZiC+A== Cc: fot@autox.team.net, paulricco@att.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Bob Wismer's TR4 racecar... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It's good to hear that Bob's car will still be local and most importantly will be raced.B I don't know who else from the FOT contigent will be at Elkhart Lake in a few weeks but I will be up there along wth Jason 'GT6' Ostrowski.B We won't have the GT6'sB as they are still recovering from GrattanB - we're campaigning the Cheetah that weekend.B Paul - we'll be in the north paddock and will be happy to help you however we can.B Welcome and congrats on owning a piece of FOT history. Brian Garcia Friendly Ghost Racing 1969 GT6+B #69 1969 GT6+ #27 1967 Plymouth Barracuda #48 1965 Cheetah Roadster #61 B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Drews" To: billdentin@aol.com, fot@autox.team.net Cc: paulricco@att.net Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 5:13:01 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Bob Wismer's TR4 racecar... Third! Tony At 03:48 PM 8/27/2014, billdentin@aol.com wrote: >Amici... > >I would like to nominate PAUL RICCO for membership in the FRIENDS >of TRIUMPH. B Paul is located in southeastern Wisconsin. B He just purchased >(and picked up) Bob Wismer's TR4 racecar. B He hopes to enter the Elkhart Lake >Vintage Festival event at Road America next month, where he will break in a >fresh engine. B He is an experienced racer, and holds both an SCCA license and >an SVRA vintage license. B But he is concerned that he knows little or nothing >about TRIUMPHs. B He would benefit greatly by being included on the FOT List. >He is excited to own an 'era correct' TR4 racecar, and I am sure Paul will >grow to love the TRIUMPH marque as we do. > >I am particularly excited to know >that Bob Wismer's TR4 will continue to compete here in the midwest, although >Paul is already talking about making trips to Limerock, Mid-Ohio, and Watkins >Glen. > >Paul's email address is: B paulricco@att.net, B May I have a SECOND >please? > >Bill Dentinger >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cudapilot@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 27 18:22:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC722584657 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:22:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0967325809C8 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:22:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.89]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id jzqq1o0021vN32cA30P5Hn; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 00:23:05 +0000 Received: from locutus ([50.170.163.20]) by omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id k0P11o00G0Sj6Ay8i0P4F3; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 00:23:05 +0000 From: "Jim Gray" To: "'Mike Munson'" Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:24:49 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac/CBB0LVsYllfabRtOy76dFesp5IwAEi1Ig s=q20140121; t=1409185385; bh=x/Dvg95Tcb7grdadX61xZ3VzNdOCyPbG8aE3BajVbbM=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=l/AKjEpZO8nqzCeqbvk5UgTFqDRDpyVLmG+hqN2oGUodR0Rq1CMsPcAS99mF/u6hU iSH0izgTCYM1R7Q4KNFfcTqpOOGGwookjze6qbKWjAEc9ewdIk6PBg7zHgsmhtZdkK 7vmCCQO131ysV6oNy8AJWSzehtQ5tDjfCu4k2xJbrVWn47Rh+Xzv9riyxUFMNudggB 08BJLMCs/Nh9Y6rtnAya0YLG2H/vpGhbI3pvuLLDDMNgO1ULK8h5iLDRQsHzsz79Su TMwx91BYtI3KT80e0ki8dYH1QxLgHyA4VwzsvRrXjp18qNp7w5qjbm3puQ8Pjq8Pbi cc1au7FYbJoag== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Carb spacers & velocity stack lengths Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm trying to get a better understanding of " tuned runner length". Some of the newer cars have variable runner length because as you say Mike conventional wisdom says shorter stacks are better on the top and longer stacks better for low & mid range. My rev limit is 6500 and my shift points are at 6K. I'm looking into carb spacers to see what affect I may have on the plenum area of the manifold. One could say I've done a little work on my manifold. Specifically welded the snott out of it and created the proper taper to the runners. Stock TR4 manifolds actually have reverse taper. David Vizard has a runner length calc that goes like this... The general rule is that you should begin with a runner length of 17.8 cm for a 10,000 rpm peak torque location, from the intake opening to the plenum chamber. You add 4.3 cm to the runner length for every 1000 rpm that you want the peak torque to occur before the 10,000 rpm. So if I want my peak torque at 5K for example my ideal runner length would be 15.47" The stock TR4 runner is only 3-13/16 to the partition. The rest is considered plenum, I think. At the moment I'm just trying to plan for some engine dyno time in the near future and deciding what I want to try next. jim -----Original Message----- From: Mike Munson [mailto:fasttrs@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 8:35 AM To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Carb spacers & velocity stack lengths I have found a general rule of thumb on webers that short VSs give you more top end HP and longer ones give you better torque. Full radius horns are better for both. Keep in mind the old saying; Horsepower is for bragging but torque wins races. (Or something like that) Mike Munson #28 EP TR6 > On Aug 26, 2014, at 2:42 PM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: > > Greetings Fot > I was wondering if anyone has done any experimentation with carb spacers and/or different lengths of velocity stacks. > I'm planning some dyno time in the future and want to make the best of it. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 27 18:23:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7CD525846E3 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:23:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2B125809C8 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:22:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.89]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id jzqq1o0031vN32cA30P6Hv; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 00:23:06 +0000 Received: from locutus ([50.170.163.20]) by omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id k0P11o00G0Sj6Ay8i0P6FC; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 00:23:06 +0000 From: "Jim Gray" To: "'Mike Munson'" Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:24:55 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac/CBB0LVsYllfabRtOy76dFesp5IwAEi1Ig s=q20140121; t=1409185386; bh=x/Dvg95Tcb7grdadX61xZ3VzNdOCyPbG8aE3BajVbbM=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SD5CmM+ADgxMpVdaj+4JXptWd0xq2Yy5rUUjJ19SozYH8KYts0ZHNShxtMWCF35Z+ u9MJkFTZdpVrtcd4gz+U2NKtBbKjKPeXTs2BlQ4oI4Kw5k6Bw4BUCsblrhfKI1c4du fJoUaVfMnASFxSpy4D6c1yJuHLCS27vW/nNAoxFxKgA7COfYa26SKkLLVyWVmMaUWz XirOM4tzsrKqYf+y/LmlKD4NQE6fZ3sbxxH1xj/cHzTvFiUnvtSEgLVvoyDdHRK2kA BDEJ1GXuU2EOVsj8zqfx+2juqCt2uHAJE4LdRRYNMVLMcnylZg3ZJtHxe2p3wBCkl7 Rzf6u6m4OOnbw== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Carb spacers & velocity stack lengths Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm trying to get a better understanding of " tuned runner length". Some of the newer cars have variable runner length because as you say Mike conventional wisdom says shorter stacks are better on the top and longer stacks better for low & mid range. My rev limit is 6500 and my shift points are at 6K. I'm looking into carb spacers to see what affect I may have on the plenum area of the manifold. One could say I've done a little work on my manifold. Specifically welded the snott out of it and created the proper taper to the runners. Stock TR4 manifolds actually have reverse taper. David Vizard has a runner length calc that goes like this... The general rule is that you should begin with a runner length of 17.8 cm for a 10,000 rpm peak torque location, from the intake opening to the plenum chamber. You add 4.3 cm to the runner length for every 1000 rpm that you want the peak torque to occur before the 10,000 rpm. So if I want my peak torque at 5K for example my ideal runner length would be 15.47" The stock TR4 runner is only 3-13/16 to the partition. The rest is considered plenum, I think. At the moment I'm just trying to plan for some engine dyno time in the near future and deciding what I want to try next. jim -----Original Message----- From: Mike Munson [mailto:fasttrs@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 8:35 AM To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Carb spacers & velocity stack lengths I have found a general rule of thumb on webers that short VSs give you more top end HP and longer ones give you better torque. Full radius horns are better for both. Keep in mind the old saying; Horsepower is for bragging but torque wins races. (Or something like that) Mike Munson #28 EP TR6 > On Aug 26, 2014, at 2:42 PM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: > > Greetings Fot > I was wondering if anyone has done any experimentation with carb spacers and/or different lengths of velocity stacks. > I'm planning some dyno time in the future and want to make the best of it. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 28 03:48:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CEFD2584707 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 03:48:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.henryfrye.com (wsip-98-174-80-203.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DD5258456C for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 03:48:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.4.4.99] ([10.4.4.99]) by mail.henryfrye.com (Kerio Connect 8.3.2); Thu, 28 Aug 2014 05:45:12 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 05:45:04 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac/CoaUukeTuM9w+FUuOPd9WwTPr0wAAPDcg References: <8D1904F7215C9C6-2298-3293D@webmail-d235.sysops.aol.com> From: Yellow04 To: billdentin@aol.com, fot@autox.team.net Cc: paulricco@att.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Bob Wismer's TR4 racecar... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Outstanding news, congrats and welcome Paul! As the owner of another of the Beady Eye Vintage Racing Triumph cars, I am thrilled to hear Bob's car landed in the hands of an experienced racer and will continue to be seen on track. I intend to get Old Blue back to the midwest as often as I can. Now all we need is Don Brick's hotrod for a proper reunion! Henry -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of billdentin@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 4:49 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Cc: paulricco@att.net Subject: [Fot] Bob Wismer's TR4 racecar... Amici... I would like to nominate PAUL RICCO for membership in the FRIENDS of TRIUMPH. Paul is located in southeastern Wisconsin. He just purchased (and picked up) Bob Wismer's TR4 racecar. He hopes to enter the Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival event at Road America next month, where he will break in a fresh engine. He is an experienced racer, and holds both an SCCA license and an SVRA vintage license. But he is concerned that he knows little or nothing about TRIUMPHs. He would benefit greatly by being included on the FOT List. He is excited to own an 'era correct' TR4 racecar, and I am sure Paul will grow to love the TRIUMPH marque as we do. I am particularly excited to know that Bob Wismer's TR4 will continue to compete here in the midwest, although Paul is already talking about making trips to Limerock, Mid-Ohio, and Watkins Glen. Paul's email address is: paulricco@att.net, May I have a SECOND please? Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 28 07:59:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3876F2584709 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 07:59:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f54.google.com (mail-pa0-f54.google.com [209.85.220.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B512580701 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 07:58:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id fb1so2645131pad.41 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 06:59:35 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=H59SW2B6teXqQIyJ9Uondi6/pl+gBuzWIFjBKzltZhc=; b=L4Tx/gCoLTM9VLz+DyQWpGrr+4a6PzSv86OZvbPO10vuTL2xln8th4cQtxICWG5LAR wW/m2IFyb8UKlVO/D34pEkpw3Qbyz9NQlFRXb2tK0cPkNw8yXf/kZms7iyqLUOqDZ80R 17Y1//3H7T5QxGLXtYCNRtrdsvxupk4iJffeU5FEnriops5Rkw5/9EnG7OgwPiygfwkk Ov84jx6BTdl28n6iLvpVoMvwaCN70lOw94sVnwOMUn5wbmCiQgIM+vmjLqOu9A094odW 5LzrfSMg8qZu8/7aBWlgyW5LbFku795QXJYDtzLTF8TAwUF8WFy0h+1lfGorESHxn4gu nkGQ== hq2mr4370592pbc.169.1409234374505; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 06:59:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.30.5 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 06:59:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:59:34 -0500 From: Jerry Poole To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Triumph Spitfire Water Pump Pulley Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Need some advice from the forum about removal of the 1296/1500 Spitfire water pump pulley. Can the pulley be pressed/pulled from the shaft? Will any additional "incentive" be needed such as heat? Thanks for any information and your time. Jerry _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 28 08:05:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED60258472F for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:05:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from r3.netinteraction.com (r3.netinteraction.com [174.143.143.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C412584560 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:05:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com (mx2.netinteraction.com [174.143.201.144]) by r3.netinteraction.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D72D1C2D0; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 14:05:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTP id BCEBE113CDC2; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 07:05:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kyL24Fm01qFW; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 07:05:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com (75-128-248-219.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com [75.128.248.219]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTPA id EA07F113CDBC; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 07:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 09:05:31 -0500 To: Jerry Poole ,fot@autox.team.net From: Peter Caldwell mail.com> References: Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph Spitfire Water Pump Pulley Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It can be pressed off, pushing on the bearing shaft and supporting the pulley and catching the pump. Do not strike or hit anything. The seal in a water pump is a carbon face and maybe a ceramic face. Neither enjoys shock. Peter C - At 08:59 AM 8/28/2014, Jerry Poole wrote: >Need some advice from the forum about removal of the 1296/1500 >Spitfire water pump pulley. Can the pulley be pressed/pulled from the >shaft? Will any additional "incentive" be needed such as heat? >Thanks for any information and your time. Jerry _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 28 14:10:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B6C2584769 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 14:10:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d01.mx.aol.com (omr-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.252.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95BC02580330 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 14:10:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aai01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aai01.mx.aol.com [172.27.2.99]) by omr-d01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id F159970057A7D for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 16:11:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dra005a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dra005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.252.209]) by mtaomg-aai01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id CB9D138000087 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 16:11:35 -0400 (EDT) References: <20140828002306.E096F25844E4@autox.team.net> To: fot@autox.team.net From: malaboge@aol.com Received: from 50.184.7.34 by webmail-vm038.sysops.aol.com (149.174.150.60) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 28 Aug 2014 16:11:35 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 16:11:35 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1409256695; bh=rxaLjXRjeCOXjJRwj4I4p9UNBtnxDpM0IjVYdXHqAjc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Fm/P3iUrBpSBvo5XiZ/NWdy3M6uhK0iQWJbOOqGGlG6wpVmXbQdyEQ9zQFV6FQ3Ya 2IYlopx/pgp+VK7kLD5X4z06djW/C68g9SWf7DurCXUfskFz7zgkt1c+LwyqQNZbwq eWYz8jUJ7JQPwq75wN+JlVh5b+03V7KefdqzhugE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b026353ff8cf75caf Subject: Re: [Fot] Carb spacers & velocity stack lengths Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net snip One could say I've done a little work on my manifold. Specifically welded the snott out of it and created the proper taper to the runners. snip I too did a bit of "adding material" to an intake and got put on the trailer at an event back in the day! Luckily I brought another unmodified intake as I knew this was going to be a "verbal" confrontation at least. What clubs are allowing this sort of mods? Around here (Nor Cal) the clubs adhere to the old SCCA rules... isn't that sort of the definition of vintage? Nick in Nor Cal _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 28 14:21:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A00625848B3 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 14:21:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183BD2580550 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 14:20:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::c167:89f3:ca7b:1966]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::c167:89f3:ca7b:1966%13]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 15:21:37 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: "'malaboge@aol.com'" , "fot@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Fot] Carb spacers & velocity stack lengths Thread-Index: AQHPwvxEfdtgFxdq1rr85iIOG6KX2JvmdS6A Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 20:21:36 +0000 References: <20140828002306.E096F25844E4@autox.team.net> <8D1911367070A6E-9D8-4814F@webmail-vm038.sysops.aol.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Subject: Re: [Fot] Carb spacers & velocity stack lengths Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Uh-oh. Here comes the "transmissions" discussion again :-) Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of malaboge@aol.com Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 3:12 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Carb spacers & velocity stack lengths snip One could say I've done a little work on my manifold. Specifically welded the snott out of it and created the proper taper to the runners. snip I too did a bit of "adding material" to an intake and got put on the trailer at an event back in the day! Luckily I brought another unmodified intake as I knew this was going to be a "verbal" confrontation at least. What clubs are allowing this sort of mods? Around here (Nor Cal) the clubs adhere to the old SCCA rules... isn't that sort of the definition of vintage? Nick in Nor Cal _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 28 14:48:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D19258495F for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 14:48:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m08.mx.aol.com (omr-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.222.129]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569A92580A39 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 14:47:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aan01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aan01.mx.aol.com [172.27.19.79]) by omr-m08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 09398700000BF; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 16:48:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mlc005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mlc005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.211]) by mtaomg-aan01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 39B2038000082; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 16:48:37 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 16:48:37 -0400 (EDT) To: sbarr@McCarty-Law.com, malaboge@aol.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1409258917; bh=Y//GRgZ0SvMvcXSbQBcq3YP9ofOJ+cKJKCOYbiqrklc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cBeN1bq/QieVkPUUVofyXiHyYeTODQ9PJ8+aDfVM/foD56yJ4hZoAlZBERxS1yBiD LnvD1fIQtL18bmfm+qQSNiw5CuzNTv2npFZeH0uo5ppdGs0Xik/zZUX5W7wsa+Uba3 WueIICivTK4XIkTbCNTYqbyoLTIxezTu5t1GH06c= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b134f53ff95a57141 Subject: Re: [Fot] Carb spacers & velocity stack lengths Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 08/28/2014 3:29:19 PM Central Daylight Time, sbarr@McCarty-Law.com writes: > What clubs are allowing this sort of mods? Around here (Nor Cal) the > clubs > adhere to the old SCCA rules...isn't that sort of the definition of > vintage? > Yeah, sort of. Around here (midwest and points further east) that is sort of the basis. The VSCDA embraces the work of our own Jack Woehrle, who put in a ton of work in and set up some highly respected standards for what is legal and what is not in vintage racing. Some modifications from original manufacture are allowed based on those old SCCA rules and what was allowed back in the day and some mods are allowed for safety reasons. The VSCDA awards an 'era correct' sticker to race cars that follow those guide lines to the letter. Bob Wismer's TR4 was an 'era correct' TR4. VSCDA then also allows for some further modification(s). You might be assigned a Mod-1 or a Mod-2 sticker depending upon how radical the modifications are. For example, Tony Drews car gets a Mod-2 sticker designation for the upgrades past what would be 'era correct'. Last fall I got passed by a vintage TRIUMPH. It went by so fast I could not read the sticker, but I'm gonna guess it was a Mod-16. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 28 19:53:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7B525848EB for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 19:53:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC3S13.hotmail.com (blu004-omc3s13.hotmail.com [65.55.116.88]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C0052584723 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 19:53:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU436-SMTP184 ([65.55.116.72]) by BLU004-OMC3S13.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Thu, 28 Aug 2014 18:54:37 -0700 Received: from [10.100.109.108] ([184.151.61.108]) by BLU436-SMTP184.smtp.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(8.0.9200.16384); Thu, 28 Aug 2014 18:54:36 -0700 References: <20140828002306.E096F25844E4@autox.team.net> <8D1911367070A6E-9D8-4814F@webmail-vm038.sysops.aol.com> <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B5CE5B2@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> From: Vangoughv Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 21:54:35 -0400 To: "Barr, Scott" FILETIME=[2FB8A0C0:01CFC32C] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Carb spacers & velocity stack lengths Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Well I'm looking forward to it! I'm learning a lot from you old farts :) LOL Vince > On Aug 28, 2014, at 4:21 PM, "Barr, Scott" wrote: > > Uh-oh. Here comes the "transmissions" discussion again :-) > > Scott B. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of malaboge@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 3:12 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Carb spacers & velocity stack lengths > > snip > One could say I've done a little work on my manifold. > Specifically welded the snott out of it and created the proper taper to the > runners. > snip > > I too did a bit of "adding material" to an intake and got put on the trailer > at an event back in the day! Luckily I brought another unmodified intake as I > knew this was going to be a "verbal" confrontation at least. > > What clubs are allowing this sort of mods? Around here (Nor Cal) the clubs > adhere to the old SCCA rules... > isn't that sort of the definition > of vintage? > > Nick in Nor Cal > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 28 21:38:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFAFE25849AD for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 21:38:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F06A625848EB for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 21:38:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [65.25.182.78] ([65.25.182.78:33254] helo=[192.168.100.99]) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id A4/1F-31046-CD5FFF35; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 03:39:08 +0000 From: Allen Washatko To: BillDentin@aol.com Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 22:39:07 -0500 References: <8D1904F7215C9C6-2298-3293D@webmail-d235.sysops.aol.com> Cc: fot@autox.team.net, paulricco@att.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Bob Wismer's TR4 racecar... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bill, I will be sharing paddock space with Paul Ricco at Road America next month. Richard and Dan Gehweiler as well as myself will be on hand to lend any assistance Paul might need as we go through the weekend. Stop in and meet Paul and see the newly finished TR6. Allen On Aug 27, 2014, at 3:48 PM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > Amici... > > I would like to nominate PAUL RICCO for membership in the FRIENDS > of TRIUMPH. Paul is located in southeastern Wisconsin. He just > purchased > (and picked up) Bob Wismer's TR4 racecar. He hopes to enter the > Elkhart Lake > Vintage Festival event at Road America next month, where he will > break in a > fresh engine. He is an experienced racer, and holds both an SCCA > license and > an SVRA vintage license. But he is concerned that he knows little > or nothing > about TRIUMPHs. He would benefit greatly by being included on the > FOT List. > He is excited to own an 'era correct' TR4 racecar, and I am sure > Paul will > grow to love the TRIUMPH marque as we do. > > I am particularly excited to know > that Bob Wismer's TR4 will continue to compete here in the midwest, > although > Paul is already talking about making trips to Limerock, Mid-Ohio, > and Watkins > Glen. > > Paul's email address is: paulricco@att.net, May I have a SECOND > please? > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/awashatko@wi.rr.com > > Allen & Jody Washatko 1971 TR6 - Number 6 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 28 21:41:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07519258490D for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 21:41:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E971F25848EB for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 21:41:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [65.25.182.78] ([65.25.182.78:33070] helo=[192.168.100.99]) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 27/6D-11035-A76FFF35; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 03:41:46 +0000 From: Allen Washatko To: Friends of Triumph Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 22:41:45 -0500 Subject: [Fot] VSCDA - Road America Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FoT, Who all is coming to this year's VSCDA ELVF at Road America? Allen Allen & Jody Washatko 1971 TR6 - Number 6 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 28 22:33:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC72C2584768 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 22:33:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f50.google.com (mail-oi0-f50.google.com [209.85.218.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E090C2580A0F for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 22:33:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f50.google.com with SMTP id u20so1243643oif.23 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 21:33:47 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FOPgETndgcfDzZ3294v+siRjmvGBMTbNGyp0O8H30yU=; b=yc9myNHy/EAlhjS2uqBEnT3U6mOiatb1gfJLH0U4UUjgGFc6zJFQryGHMv03b5x51n Elwxw7w2buh05spLZaO1SEgV1RTGdhp1qekDSUJNG5jleYnIR33vSn/spaU2BiQEPRbr TS/FkcSCBr9Ah12DJFp9/73RC75jKdGRmqv3sj8ngx0VUOJiHugt7YTmZh8ZF8QAWm/N VP7SignlrFxfbatiaYi9AxPn9YWrur3HrZTr9Q5Zu3TLhSf8d/TBmx6KsNGqcxLVs86A gtFslQ975YB60kRWw5/q4ITIV0iv/Fi+e5Hgx0sOfk3l74ROdPsy4TSG3KPQsZtE1UDd AwDg== fm10mr8260014oeb.24.1409286827477; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 21:33:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (24-121-172-242.npg.sta.suddenlink.net. [24.121.172.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id dc4sm6897972obb.18.2014.08.28.21.33.46 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 28 Aug 2014 21:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 21:33:45 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <20140828002306.E096F25844E4@autox.team.net> <8D1911367070A6E-9D8-4814F@webmail-vm038.sysops.aol.com> <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B5CE5B2@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Carb spacers & velocity stack lengths Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 8/28/14, 6:54 PM, Vangoughv wrote: > Well I'm looking forward to it! > I'm learning a lot from you old farts :) > LOL > > Vince > If it helps you get started I captured a couple past discussions from this list that you might find useful: http://www.tr3a.info/Net_SUstacks.htm http://www.tr3a.info/Net_intakeAirFlow.htm TeriAnn _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 28 22:50:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DD92584A82 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 22:50:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74DB82584768 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 22:48:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mad01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mad01.mx.aol.com [172.26.221.205]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id D093070000086; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 00:49:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.116] (71-13-26-216.dhcp.dlth.mn.charter.com [71.13.26.216]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mad01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 74FD938000081; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 00:49:27 -0400 (EDT) References: <14AAB723-134F-4717-AD19-54FEBA2D33E6@wi.rr.com> From: Jhouathome Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 23:49:26 -0500 To: Allen Washatko x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1409287767; bh=b4Dw/rrNmwdmiIhyZNVlGHnT/mxFmBbqIKBoyMJOau8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=gfgwY9Dc+o8KNEyWYF+mKOpT7USom2d+s9vxAKQJF/j5RZvg+rluxQeRCVpSJsVaT NAdZzryTGM+6bUZnbLc7kbb81tJqlwxIgNi6/9YV1EI0i3gfDC8d1DSaC6QJEGgwJ4 dJCo6lT95crayHxx6Bl71HROWRYJT9ubq9j+c+lk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1addcd540006574812 Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] VSCDA - Road America Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I will be there with the Kellison/TR. It finally seems to be running! John Sent from my iPad > On Aug 28, 2014, at 10:41 PM, Allen Washatko wrote: > > FoT, > > Who all is coming to this year's VSCDA ELVF at Road America? > > Allen > > > Allen & Jody Washatko > 1971 TR6 - Number 6 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhouathome@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 28 23:12:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E194258487E for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 23:12:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy5-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy5-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.38.55]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6FC672580A59 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 23:12:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 31782 invoked by uid 0); 29 Aug 2014 05:13:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw3) (10.0.90.84) by gproxy5.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 2014 05:13:22 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw3 with id kbDG1o00J1NzpT901bDK4v; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 05:13:21 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=UsuZWsVE35kA:10 a=yKqyAkVeGwwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=ymtSPZh8Z8BfvSR7oPEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=psXREZS0v_AA:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=58714 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XNEUw-0000Jd-0b; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 23:13:18 -0600 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 00:13:16 -0500 To: Allen Washatko , Friends of Triumph From: Tony Drews References: <14AAB723-134F-4717-AD19-54FEBA2D33E6@wi.rr.com> {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] VSCDA - Road America Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'll be there. Hoping to set up where Bob and Bill did at the entrance to the false grid, and also hoping to keep the wine and cheese tradition going. Tony Drews At 10:41 PM 8/28/2014, Allen Washatko wrote: >FoT, > >Who all is coming to this year's VSCDA ELVF at Road America? > >Allen > > >Allen & Jody Washatko >1971 TR6 - Number 6 >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 29 07:25:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B4112584ADD for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 07:25:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173025pub.verizon.net (vms173025pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9864625846F7 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 07:24:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from new-host.home ([unknown] [98.117.90.163]) by vms173025.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0NB200JTLLARC710@vms173025.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 08:25:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Dean Tetterton Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 09:25:39 -0400 References: <14AAB723-134F-4717-AD19-54FEBA2D33E6@wi.rr.com> <20140829051246.E60042584979@autox.team.net> To: Tony Drews Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] VSCDA - Road America Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tony Hope you can carry on the tradition of the wine and cheese at Road America. My first meeting of the "gang" was at the MOTRHA event in 05. Got to see what Vintage Racing is all about. Enjoyed the great Blue Cheese by Don Brick and even got to go to the Steak place out in the middle of nowhere. Lots of fond memories of the week end. Dean T. On Aug 29, 2014, at 1:13 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > I'll be there. Hoping to set up where Bob and Bill did at the entrance to the false grid, and also hoping to keep the wine and cheese tradition going. > > Tony Drews > > At 10:41 PM 8/28/2014, Allen Washatko wrote: >> FoT, >> >> Who all is coming to this year's VSCDA ELVF at Road America? >> >> Allen _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 29 08:00:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC2825853B9 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 08:00:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d02.mx.aol.com (omr-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F403F2584533 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 07:59:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aac02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aac02.mx.aol.com [172.27.2.36]) by omr-d02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id C081070000081; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 10:00:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mld004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mld004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.122.82]) by mtaomg-aac02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id A09053800008B; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 10:00:40 -0400 (EDT) References: <14AAB723-134F-4717-AD19-54FEBA2D33E6@wi.rr.com> To: awashatko@wi.rr.com, fot@autox.team.net From: billdentin@aol.com Received: from 70.194.135.59 by webmail-vm072.sysops.aol.com (149.174.147.105) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 29 Aug 2014 10:00:40 -0400 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 10:00:40 -0400 (EDT) s=20140625; t=1409320845; bh=743WwXJAkHj3nYvxVeBkw4jDZz3jPBdHoJuyR8Jnr2w=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sWPn4wLE4tjh+WSlM6kiGedDoefVwnUuLi3rRM75VQA3RhRR5OiMarVAUbvVGhTE2 BbLTql/xT3AAUajII+1VOAw4ypxbExD2Ea4dx+9I0ZCzMnvTSL5tY9cU64feIyFsNE 7+q2Udd7af29lIh1Z9hALe6yYGV0zsQNTVSLPMQI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b0224540087887eb0 Subject: Re: [Fot] VSCDA - Road America Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net From: Allen Washatko To: Friends of Triumph Sent: Thu, Aug 28, 2014 10:41 pm Subject: [Fot] VSCDA - Road America FoT, Who all is coming to this year's VSCDA ELVF at Road America? Allen 'll not be an entrant, but I sure plan on attending, as part of the cheering crowd. An aside...the VSCDA is touting this event as the 29th Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival. It is actually the 30th. The first was in 1985. I entered it and every one since. I am not sure where the VSCDA lost count, but I have a cloth badge from that original 1985 event. I think I'll wear it and rub their nose in that fact a little bit. I'll just be pulling their chain. I'll not be throwing stones. Never complain to volunteers. They'll quit. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 29 09:20:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B4E2584881 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 09:20:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.70]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17242258453C for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 09:20:51 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=mAwq5aMp4rxrFLtBzHu9o/s5xHwgmoaGXSvPHsR6md4uvR536Hhz4qNSrPmeMXR/; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Cc:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.51] (helo=mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1XNNzc-0003zm-Ah; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 11:21:36 -0400 Received: from 209.179.4.244 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 11:21:36 -0400 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 11:21:36 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Mike Jackson To: Dean Tetterton , Tony Drews Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] VSCDA - Road America Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Definitely the steak place. Truly in the middle of nowhere. The only time I tried to go there without help of the BDI crowd I got lost! You will often hear the likes of Danica Patrick and Nico Rosberg among others being called when their table is ready. A real treat. Wonder where Don Brick's TR4 is these days. A true piece of history. His driving was getting better every year right up until he chose to retire. Mike Jackson -----Original Message----- >From: Dean Tetterton >Sent: Aug 29, 2014 9:25 AM >To: Tony Drews >Cc: Friends of Triumph >Subject: Re: [Fot] VSCDA - Road America > >Tony > Hope you can carry on the tradition of the >wine and cheese at Road America. My first meeting >of the "gang" was at the MOTRHA event in 05. Got >to see what Vintage Racing is all about. Enjoyed the >great Blue Cheese by Don Brick and even got to >go to the Steak place out in the middle of nowhere. >Lots of fond memories of the week end. > >Dean T. > > >On Aug 29, 2014, at 1:13 AM, Tony Drews wrote: > >> I'll be there. Hoping to set up where Bob and Bill did at the entrance to >the false grid, and also hoping to keep the wine and cheese tradition going. >> >> Tony Drews >> >> At 10:41 PM 8/28/2014, Allen Washatko wrote: >>> FoT, >>> >>> Who all is coming to this year's VSCDA ELVF at Road America? >>> >>> Allen >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/grandwazoo@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 29 10:21:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FCB42584BD6 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 10:21:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f43.google.com (mail-qa0-f43.google.com [209.85.216.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F292584734 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 10:21:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id cm18so2371781qab.30 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 09:21:57 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=cLy92Ph0iq12DXO10CNyPnEF5oB5rUaIheESiu8HKdg=; b=bXqupNUlQgEjyrxRe54G6evj3UDNVErIQWmK/mqxlaMQqwQ/oMWET7t2V25fhP1Y84 6SZ9FYmLK/0Km10jJj5XDf40siVHDvg2j0ndCbEWugdeNSjEaneWXyhu7u6DTrmulh4Q WIozXbLXy9wIs084u7Bbn9am6u31FC0w8Z9PN44ufHpOtfClXYuLEFoZXI781/LmIab6 GRAa5I/nqwGwsNAAVglVBohAdIjT2ToDA2xUGA3IIX6qfvUiD3O/wPbFovPeHWDEugt1 7cskm80NyUYs0nkhyEX9Ju1Zv2wmHBdC3lbQm6qZ1jDT7CI9qNiv+ny+aVJsowH9TtbS tDpg== n7mr18197992qge.83.1409329317699; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 09:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.92.48 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 09:21:57 -0700 (PDT) References: <27876808.1409325696259.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 11:21:57 -0500 From: Irv Korey To: Mike Jackson Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] VSCDA - Road America Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Mike Jackson wrote: > > Wonder where Don Brick's TR4 is these days. A true piece of history. The car is in the loving and capable hands of Ken Suhre, who resides on central Illinois and is a FOT. Irv Korey _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 31 08:20:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E8A2584C2E for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 08:20:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm6-vm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm6-vm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23232580781 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 08:19:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.166] by nm6.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2014 14:22:26 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.140] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2014 14:22:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1016.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2014 14:22:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 38043 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Aug 2014 14:22:25 -0000 s=s1024; t=1409494945; bh=4x3dZHHCcNWDbaGV+JXRPNkdWpIxoR/4DkHQg/l4X5c=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aUQpViOmv1pFUJ+NGAu9LXzeuJpq32ynwDo5oPo0Eq1sZDA2fvwk9rBp9su0wPL7iPuLNMPKEAWjGX8yJGWjMDJMjlLkc4qFI3c0p93GNBCuFPS9mcClieetw7OVVe5RYt9tGMi3uDKKXiSJIcrxDPuykoEso2vteqIjWS3TQKM= whfzREKFT4_Wgm69GT._uUTGs4CesmJSjbgG3X4EhWIEEpf4FKvHaUyzqqMU ow9gO.rd2C17a03jxyQp2l1pldz7Wa2pIIJaBuisGC.Oue0feLTQy6YV1D63 6uq9rTBqRqtIGBT4GMyEjkw0FicCi7J7Z8PSso1ubEU5Wc1CWeMr9Xg.0X1A EauWbtfz0vbCJx9JHkzMY58uiogrJakfhfvlqQQ1CFlrE7lbmunFHGiB__3L 0bLVg_vRFHhBfD09AqXvDTfHahMWkwonfoAvadyMfU90lu4ZRdVh8986mq6f rAQNStatxXjgXgg50ojFGQNwXdepbIB8Xrrzy4yDZgwkbK8IJmNgCkS5MDNI Giui5y0jlzamsH0UjRF6r80jhjgAPA3teKM8L1Xg81uZqH_24_ZVluLoDzBz rFcVD9OmO00HIII6ZxBDuZBIo.ruuo6n4V5sIywaZYYTDwRdBW_fFNyFe249 klFAMfJUxb9wWj1XdTEQkIGu4E15xZasBX60w_Z8cR4kqX4n7.y6W90EcQWb U5ciwEFZPN.0j7DxXtkh8cIpc99PE2EW1P_ZESjYEx2G2rKW3hkZ79l9m7gz uh2aDW59UnwHXcv7XQeJaGdvGquJOyc9kYAL_7fjK9rZstEFM0pyvZ0Easf4 lgT9chAfxuOnDdy9Nj2ViIf8Shr2ZmbBPco0H0p5b7EOpe7qyQDnhLT8DHGm CHXVUCrzyXoVz_Ws- Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web184705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 07:22:25 PDT QW55IG9mIHRoZSBGT1QgYXQgTGltZSBSb2NrIHllc3RlcmRheSB3aGVuIHRoaXMgaGFwcGVuZWQ_Ci1FZC0KCmh0dHA6Ly93d3cuY291cmFudC5jb20vbmV3cy9jb25uZWN0aWN1dC9oYy1saW1lLXJvY2stcGFyay1oaXN0b3JpYy1mZXN0aXZhbC1jYXItY3Jhc2gtMjAxNDA4MzAsMCwzMDI2OTQxLnN0b3J5CgEwAQEBAQ-- Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 07:22:25 -0700 From: EDWARD BARNARD To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Crash and death at Lime Rock Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Any of the FOT at Lime Rock yesterday when this happened? -Ed- http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-lime-rock-park-historic-festival-car-crash-20140830,0,3026941.story _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 31 12:53:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ABDC2584C56 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 12:53:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.wcnet.org (mailhub.wcnet.org [64.31.64.4]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200BF2580B4A for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 12:52:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from authmail.wcnet.org (authmail.wcnet.org [64.31.64.16]) by mail.wcnet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9E91874686 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 14:55:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SnookPC (cpe-71-72-104-70.columbus.res.rr.com [71.72.104.70]) by authmail.wcnet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68CE04204F4 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 14:55:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jeff Snook" To: References: Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 14:55:42 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac/FRfroVqyIADZ/RsCXj9DHS2fE8AABwG9w Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] Lime Rock Crash Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I wasn't there, but the photo shows a prewar MG with no roll bar, and no HANS device! Jeff Snook http://www.snooksdreamcars.com 419-344-0319 (Mobile) -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of fot-request@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 2:00 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Fot Digest, Vol 93, Issue 45 Send Fot mailing list submissions to fot@autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fot-request@autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at fot-owner@autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Fot digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Crash and death at Lime Rock (EDWARD BARNARD) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 07:22:25 -0700 From: EDWARD BARNARD To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Crash and death at Lime Rock Message-ID: <1409494945.32199.YahooMailNeo@web184705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Any of the FOT at Lime Rock yesterday when this happened? -Ed- http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-lime-rock-park-historic-festival- car-crash-20140830,0,3026941.story ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Fot mailing list Fot@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot ------------------------------ End of Fot Digest, Vol 93, Issue 45 *********************************** _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 31 13:27:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95CB3258452A for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 13:27:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yk0-f173.google.com (mail-yk0-f173.google.com [209.85.160.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2602580840 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 13:27:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-yk0-f173.google.com with SMTP id 20so2739582yks.18 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 12:30:28 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=I0NCf7wKG5PjBKVahg3XQjeq4gjo/UcwYWanxTRb2ko=; b=F3Ff6REv2PMsQoOTviCUISm7Vwxq5hPBc4Y9j83e4JWXlWwW/JX94t9ECcP7T1b9mK oXH+HL5zTgtq4vW3BYbBE7o4/sa24I7eGAR08dYlfGq/KCGijSD6b609SpUUGFJsbTtg GG4Wzli63D5OaCNvDKUIp0R3F9EtCkMVdldehlCvYj6m1e9URqMDUeemD1a18qg+g8ks oyDM1IkM2C25RBcY77RyOrJvC+gFfpI8pq8B3sZstOJtO+Ro+PKoJLmZvDwJQHRB3adM I2ayd/s5bgLPYJqh3IVotiR57txR0Rfdt/+fAJNX8vq8PGwFT6JiJjM6Tei6amUtpMRr rMjQ== n20mr6467300yhi.94.1409513428229; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 12:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.170.213.137 with HTTP; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 12:29:48 -0700 (PDT) References: <006301cfc54d$356244e0$a026cea0$@org> From: Don Marshall Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 15:29:48 -0400 To: Jeff Snook Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Lime Rock Crash Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have always wondered if the HANS was really useful at relatively low speeds like a prewar MG might run at. I found a link to a video showing a real time comparison between someone wearing a HANS and someone not wearing one, in the same car in the same low speed incident. I guess I'll keep wearing mine (actually the Simpson, but its supposed to do the same thing plus give some side to side protection). Don https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g40YatgE_CE&feature=youtu.be On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Jeff Snook wrote: > I wasn't there, but the photo shows a prewar MG with no roll bar, and no > HANS device! > > Jeff Snook > http://www.snooksdreamcars.com > 419-344-0319 (Mobile) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 31 13:42:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB953258460A for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 13:42:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f174.google.com (mail-lb0-f174.google.com [209.85.217.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF6372580844 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 13:42:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f174.google.com with SMTP id p9so4957693lbv.33 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 12:44:45 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=svGI9O2UgHhgWA7wiXqSa5mZ1LOiMPXZLsl1Feqyhpo=; b=PLVZpu2DyOLFzvZWCTstGEeY9QHFjMxWoI3xoJN1ELYys6d/CqG9N1w8xllNKqkTCx shs8/D5GIhDUburaiCB4MZt3+lsiUvSkdC0jtyloJopNbA43wFYj/fyrWqRMZftvDIm8 TBsPrzv6OvKgt4opUVV6/w6dvrY795SGcA6A8S9rSoWSrvE0ezLc8uxf4VqIKZFHRUDo JcCFG6F3vvlWiPApYKcdFJ68mVT8ESGGt+6iu1IYssn767HX9ZFOu4CGVsWf9RUAa2eX 9sOH8vOCUl50gyjQd8WjMFJ0TdE2rLVc9Ns/AVVJQhOUSKv31uhXhyrds5F0KWnfhdpq VqUw== w15mr3712320lbi.84.1409514284897; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 12:44:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.160.71.246]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bt9sm9799138lbd.47.2014.08.31.12.44.43 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 31 Aug 2014 12:44:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <006301cfc54d$356244e0$a026cea0$@org> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 21:45:00 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac/FUg1oLuiugOQ1TLqdsyHuvdhmlAAAZSnQ Content-Language: de Subject: [Fot] Zolder GP with IMSA TR8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi guys, The first race with a little contact to a 944 Turbo. He didn't see me coming he said afterwards. The TR8 has only a little scratch, that will polish out easily - the door of the Porsche has a big kiss now. Result: First in class http://youtu.be/JOTKXZOoxLk Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 31 14:26:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78762584CFD for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 14:26:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp10.bis6.us.blackberry.com (smtp10.bis6.us.blackberry.com [74.82.85.10]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19FE4258084B for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 14:26:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from b26.c8.bise6.blackberry ([192.168.0.126]) by srs.bis6.us.blackberry.com (8.13.7 TEAMON/8.13.7) with ESMTP id s7VKJkSS030097 for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 20:29:05 GMT Sensitivity: Normal Cc: "FOT" From: gasket.works@gte.net Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 20:29:09 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Lime Rock fatality Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The sanctioning body will likely be pressed by their insurance underwriter to review it's minimal safety requirements. Would a roll bar be required in the future? The coroner will opine as to the cause of death. It will in all likelyhood be traumatic head/neck injury due to rollover. How sad for his family, buddies, club and the event organizers. How do you deal with the aftermath.? M Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 31 14:39:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077E42584D26 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 14:39:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (fed1rmfepo201.cox.net [68.230.241.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C61258084B for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 14:39:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo110 ([68.230.241.159]) by fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20140831204156.RTTB22984.fed1rmfepo201.cox.net@fed1rmimpo110> for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:41:56 -0400 Received: from Bedroom ([68.226.121.76]) by fed1rmimpo110 with cox id lYhv1o0031f04Vw01Yhvbp; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:41:55 -0400 a=7SSsm+IB0xObbcIu0fZJIw==:17 a=J8hSQPik_VIA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=sskR1B85AAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=RUpNtTTAf3XAnPXKl94A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=p5ZAGxalUHUA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=7SSsm+IB0xObbcIu0fZJIw==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: References: Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 13:42:24 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac/FWkTbY2G1/b1nST6q6RHPTN8PvwAAaEVQ Cc: 'FOT' Subject: Re: [Fot] Lime Rock fatality Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The photos I saw of the car before the accident showed that it did have a rollbar. It however wss not tall enough to completely protect the driver's head unless he scrunched down in the seat. -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of gasket.works@gte.net Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 1:29 PM Cc: FOT Subject: [Fot] Lime Rock fatality The sanctioning body will likely be pressed by their insurance underwriter to review it's minimal safety requirements. Would a roll bar be required in the future? The coroner will opine as to the cause of death. It will in all likelyhood be traumatic head/neck injury due to rollover. How sad for his family, buddies, club and the event organizers. How do you deal with the aftermath.? M Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 31 14:54:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060F92584E38 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 14:54:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p01c11o142.mxlogic.net (p01c11o142.mxlogic.net [208.65.144.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD7D625808B4 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 14:54:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO ATLPEXCAS03.xc.lan) by p01c11o142.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.1.0-0) with ESMTP id b1c83045.2b7eaa44b940.30316.00-561.69317.p01c11o142.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Sun, 31 Aug 2014 14:56:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO ATLPEXCAS03.xc.lan) by p01c11o142.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.1.0-0) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id 51c83045.0.30305.00-396.69286.p01c11o142.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Sun, 31 Aug 2014 14:56:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::c824:a29e:45a5:b81c]) by ATLPEXCAS03.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:56:52 -0400 From: John Hasty To: MadMarx Thread-Topic: [Fot] Zolder GP with IMSA TR8 Thread-Index: AQHPxVQSsUmbV6Ox2kiEjHakz//VwZvrMYa4 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 20:56:52 +0000 References: <006301cfc54d$356244e0$a026cea0$@org> , <001d01cfc554$0df839d0$29e8ad70$@com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US a=VR8QHrWKYhK80xkEBGCjUg==] a=8s1] a=kj9zAlc] a=YlVTAMxIAAAA] a=FGbUIcwSFF5DSsFRwRx] a=zOoktvdPA] a=CjuIK1q_] a=9xyTavCNlvEA] a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Zolder GP with IMSA TR8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Neat..... What were the first 4 cars? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 31, 2014, at 3:45 PM, "MadMarx" wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > The first race with a little contact to a 944 Turbo. > He didn't see me coming he said afterwards. > The TR8 has only a little scratch, that will polish out easily - the door of > the Porsche has a big kiss now. > > Result: First in class > > http://youtu.be/JOTKXZOoxLk > > Cheers > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 31 15:06:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9172584EC9 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 15:06:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm26-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm26-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.119]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B2A2584528 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 15:05:51 -0600 (MDT) s=s2048; t=1409519313; bh=DJftwCGX099DBHeZ6UeunP7k6/+G+T0BMqPrLQDQClg=; b=RpIZyH1p1DI3KsogWR+wgUeIrZvsZmXgW38Gt58FIHySeb5D0JoNKbraVFo7pErmjHo80675gkdSgoRs/5l0t6313RQwDtBX/GpdO9iOCNWMpM0MZY155M1qUkMPix598CRgvt3rY4Oj6mQdmNdzcmKu0gE+JeFF7RKSCiUzMeVH0+zrQbF88B24EgRTuY6T29YUX3Plaxq5J5xOczyTGPtzHI6lbvRBQo2UCktAJPc7MISi6QwR2bhjKIiIlx282cdXQI6rO5gX3+3aUlSerEeF5kXJdHex+61F6nIgNVDo2OcmYhXdjfgEIcfegOlkdd2rj8tV2Vs2L4uMp6lCOw== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=auzZZ5wpqp6x5pG9FD89RlFIgLkH0HH0D4YWLG2B0M7220UyraUtWe63jF0BHX6gtj++TJsquoRMZvYK1lKQtVUA2ILfUsD4OzG8D0aVpMC6tiASywoYS6sPDC+KlQHMnuTLFXGwFAlnT4GhPvQbmahCLwzn3mtMcWlcNXJ11GHbadOwsbMqCzr6ElmiFtAad92T8FZ9TaqrMDBxQNADa3G9DkQEyfAssieSioiqSbJZnS7ji3RiNuWlXn6L1/Wg1tAHWmojljP2PuK7AAkc15PG8TJUYXcqXGG55PVXPZZcHet+RXZSjRmeyOrgaZYSbzZSZzsn6r7fQyKgYYh8SQ==; Received: from [98.138.100.118] by nm26.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2014 21:08:33 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.31] by tm109.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2014 21:08:33 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp202.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2014 21:08:33 -0000 s=s1024; t=1409519313; bh=DJftwCGX099DBHeZ6UeunP7k6/+G+T0BMqPrLQDQClg=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Message-ID:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:MIME-Version:To:From:Subject:Date:References:Content-Type; b=TAajDt6vSgy4igiaEW2TG5gTWOkxpG2WBoGRZ7NTU9R381IlbPXAvC7BQvfycffrrDjhEKycxwDMne9sDqL0cTgAYtTT22cPFjJRjhZwuHfdHiGw7SpHq4m6+56Jr4ovvNGyAHtyALomYCt6tu4nmHhfRT7qWEraRhM/h/8wJaw= MLUFc_A5GX0Vp_XSyb54nQ3vZeJoWOhX5rZe4ZpjmPNsWpIAeQkIsiCGZQbF hVtFAGX_hBDJHxE82sdAtRGWaMpeVxuXZzwr2slDej5TXs.fgMSW4wi7OwQv QkbkJBaYSWT7ce.jOGVP.YGMPDOtImHwxNI_SPl.ctb4fTWuiI7atHf3WWPC nmvc00vbAQ.iI9l7du_BQakNAUWsqhEb9rXknj5N9RtMf_X0HRJHdTWZoeC1 n3_Voz98dbSLpoIwk5WY88JAorQ.xQHBYTzap6_wgO80xO2Zeg3spkHpwi9r LQOV6YdAB8zRXLHwciRzBOLZ.x16HGwfYTcTk94Ebn3XqzXc7i_ATBNyqK6g 7zowO9d37DIw7_1a7e_2DTSu55SGLH6z2xFMLkTcyCn8lWE0OFlBSb9XCpxr SMmyufeWDlbISiYZ1_rmyLz5sWRxaH.LWPd.Pp6a0dfnOnKXR.HVPeTIjyRP E0yHtt2KHkstm.BnTy4AFcglj_zK.PsrTQ0mqukeev8zfNQamCSs7CpT9rGE OHUU_CesgxSulNPLT3TcYjfDs6wpQwQO.MI.cFHYfmlcwTKk0dgA3sQOPmkB fz2yq_RNMHFFGLtv_BEjumzijQdM2dQR9gMQz.bCK3vyym5SY8xp2oM12g6P jKi5dCMxd3yAgEkBzE7xWsTpq03dMCE79XsIGIC8n07B3GbTT30GwajgHl84 ulLowRx7EIDxSYjZPP2dbRAw5IMdbp8V8YlyV4_zeid18bXxB1eN1JxvNobo ZBzIonw-- To: From: Brian Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 17:08:07 -0400 References: <006301cfc54d$356244e0$a026cea0$@org> Subject: [Fot] FW: Lime Rock Crash Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net -----Original Message----- From: "Brian" Sent: b8/b31/b2014 3:48 PM To: "Jeff Snook" Subject: RE: [Fot] Lime Rock Crash I am here. I also race a Triumph in a much more hazardous arena than Limerock. Please, please do not make judgments based on superficial information. I have a soap box I would like to get on here but it is not appropriate. I will say I have raced much more than just my triumph in many different racing arenas and there is inherent risk involved not only in racing but also in everyday life. My heart and sorrow go out to the family of the individual that pasted away. I did not know him personally. Brian From: Jeff Snook Sent: b8/b31/b2014 2:56 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Lime Rock Crash I wasn't there, but the photo shows a prewar MG with no roll bar, and no HANS device! Jeff Snook http://www.snooksdreamcars.com 419-344-0319 (Mobile) -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of fot-request@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 2:00 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Fot Digest, Vol 93, Issue 45 Send Fot mailing list submissions to fot@autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fot-request@autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at fot-owner@autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Fot digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Crash and death at Lime Rock (EDWARD BARNARD) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 07:22:25 -0700 From: EDWARD BARNARD To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Crash and death at Lime Rock Message-ID: <1409494945.32199.YahooMailNeo@web184705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Any of the FOT at Lime Rock yesterday when this happened? -Ed- http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-lime-rock-park-historic-festival- car-crash-20140830,0,3026941.story ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Fot mailing list Fot@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/fot ------------------------------ End of Fot Digest, Vol 93, Issue 45 *********************************** _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britracer89@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 31 15:16:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFCBF2584F0B for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 15:16:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp01.bis6.us.blackberry.com (smtp01.bis6.us.blackberry.com [74.82.85.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609AD25849E9 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 15:16:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from b26.c8.bise6.blackberry ([192.168.0.126]) by srs.bis6.us.blackberry.com (8.13.7 TEAMON/8.13.7) with ESMTP id s7VLInfv007244 for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 21:18:49 GMT Sensitivity: Normal Cc: "FOT" From: gasket.works@gte.net Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 21:18:52 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] ?roll bar Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Will have to wait for the details. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 31 17:47:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8932584EF2 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 17:47:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF88258467A for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 17:46:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f169.google.com with SMTP id l4so5126780lbv.28 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:48:51 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=LYmj5NVnxDQ20VcyCND97K8aKS2bGM+zDUBH6CnpmOI=; b=0yqS+3oQT3rVe7y8Z6ShsbX4g13VFCbK97HRgwTlyMyqED7ii/R831CfyXd2y5ZGvl UGNA65DZGloIXnV37V3n8xOo6tVeXKWGaznvAywkM8d2zSInGRxhAQy+tsPEHFjgjfwc E3iFsX9BQ7D9GJsoIDdwhFnelI2qLfv0WtS82dKI+ndpPEdZLktVsgHInw8m8id4cQcN q41zI/vge0jfmw7N66b9qk7FLGhYWOzR5U0FiHeVA/FIgv0iP3yXbKRzsuQ4uHXclUy7 GVxaMmidyo74pMfE+oPGPtg4g7oB7ZcYbzv67MfJA/Q+TWIeI45ipkt3sVrqm+hrcShs VZBA== g7mr25106299lae.46.1409528930808; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:48:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.161.174.186]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id s10sm4350002laa.29.2014.08.31.16.48.49 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:48:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'John Hasty'" References: <006301cfc54d$356244e0$a026cea0$@org> , <001d01cfc554$0df839d0$29e8ad70$@com> <19698EB1-AE68-4881-96E2-61698E5B6366@mhc-law.com> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 01:48:47 +0200 Thread-Index: AQHPxVQSsUmbV6Ox2kiEjHakz//VwZvrMYa4gAAvDJA= Content-Language: de Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Zolder GP with IMSA TR8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The front runners were: Porsche 911 Turbo Porsche 964 Turbo Porsche Unknown type Renault 21 Turbo I could imagine, on a track will faster corners and longer straights the TR8 might do better. I had quite a brake problem with no feel how much brake I have for each corner. Not easy to NOT lock a wheel. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: John Hasty [mailto:jhasty@mhc-law.com] Gesendet: Sonntag, 31. August 2014 22:57 An: MadMarx Cc: fot@autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Zolder GP with IMSA TR8 Neat..... What were the first 4 cars? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 31, 2014, at 3:45 PM, "MadMarx" wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > The first race with a little contact to a 944 Turbo. > He didn't see me coming he said afterwards. > The TR8 has only a little scratch, that will polish out easily - the > door of the Porsche has a big kiss now. > > Result: First in class > > http://youtu.be/JOTKXZOoxLk > > Cheers > Chris > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive