From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 1 05:15:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B842580932 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 05:15:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail70c28.carrierzone.com (mail70c28.carrierzone.com [66.175.52.155]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B04B25805F9 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 05:15:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail70c28.carrierzone.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail70c28.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id s91BIMZp008244 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 1 Oct 2014 11:18:23 +0000 Received: (from webmail@localhost) by mail70c28.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.12.2/Submit) id s91BILDo008234; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 11:18:21 +0000 Received: from d-128-235-182.bootp.Virginia.EDU (d-128-235-182.bootp.Virginia.EDU [128.143.235.182]) by webmail.lumos.net (Webmail 5.0 V.V.I.) with HTTP for ; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 07:18:21 -0400 From: "=?utf-8?b?Ui4gSm9obiBMeWU=?=" To: "Washatko, Allen" , davehogye Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 07:18:21 -0400 References: <1738993027.38030216.1412134974586.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> User-Agent: Webmail 6.0 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: Enquiries Road & Track , Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] steering wheel adaptor wanted Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Having used both the hex style (well worn) and the precision spline style quick releaseB hubs, I'd give a strong suggestion to try the splined hub. Although they no longer sell the version that I used, this is close: https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=1056 In my opinion, the splined style fits better and feels less sloppy. John On Wed, 1 Oct 2014 03:42:54 +0000 (UTC), davehogye wrote: I'm pretty sure the quick release I used was a Moroso hex style purchased through Summit. > It slipped over the TR3 steering shaft without shortening it. I could > even grind off the weld and put a stock wheel back on. I did take a > little off the hex fitting to get the wheel closer to the dash trim. > Just enough for comfortable finger clearance, yet extending my arms > out as far as I could in the short TR3 space. I made a simple drawing > of my adapter and a friend machined it. It's very trick, but it has > thickness of 3/4"-1", if I remember correctly. I could have > eliminated the need the take material of the hex adaptor had I used a > piece of sheet. I've seen simple adaptors made of aluminum, say 1/8" > thick. Easy enough to work without the need of a lathe. The hex > adaptor does have a bit of play in it, but there are more precision > spline types available. Get the quick release first. Then figure out > the rest. Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Washatko, Allen" To: "Enquiries Road & > Track" Cc: "Friends of Triumph" > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 6:33:19 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] steering wheel adaptor wanted Buy the quick > release hub from Pegasus and then have an aluminum adaptor plate made > to mate the steering wheel and hub. You will also need to shorten the > steering shaft to accept the male end of the quick release hex end. > Allen On Sep 30, 2014, at 6:02 AM, Enquiries Road & Track wrote: > > i'm chasing a sports steering wheel adaptor for a TR4-6 or Spitfire/ > > GT6. > All the ones i can find locally and on fleabay are very > tall, like > 3"- 3.5" > . I want something much flatter so i can also > add a quick release > device . > does anyone have something, or can > refer me to a vendor? > > many thanks, Terry > Australia > > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/awashatko@wi.rr.com > > > Allen & Jody Washatko 1971 TR6 - Number 6 > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: > http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com > > > -- Thanks, John rjl@gt-classics.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 1 10:41:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03EA325845B7 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 10:41:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (isis.mit.edu [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7473D258071F for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 10:41:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s91Gi2Kh003898 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 12:44:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 12:44:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Footage of LeMans Spit Tribute car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I just posted this video of Bob Totten's LeMans Spitfire replica: http://youtu.be/4Lq9SunctrM Enjoy. rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 1 12:08:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F632584ECC for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 12:08:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD4D2584D75 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 12:08:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A0032C02CC for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 12:11:54 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 12:11:54 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: fot@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Fot] Footage of LeMans Spit Tribute car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That is such a good looking car. I'm not fond of the Jaguar course, but that's another subject. I really need to get my sorry ass out of my dungeon more often and get to more events! mjb. ps: The radio station I listen to while at home is in the middle of their fall fund drive. 9 days of begging. Aren't you glad the Team.Net fund drive consists of just 1 email message per year? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 1 15:35:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C557258479C for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 15:35:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m2.mx.aol.com (omr-m2.mx.aol.com [64.12.133.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E952580457 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 15:34:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mbc01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mbc01.mx.aol.com [172.26.221.141]) by omr-m2.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id EC3DA380000F3; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 17:37:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.105] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mbc01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 83FCD380000AD; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 17:37:43 -0400 (EDT) References: From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 16:37:42 -0500 To: "Robert M. Lang" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1412199464; bh=FTQfSiXA6em7vFJtaxETDCqKnMEgPRhRSlX1Eu+wXp0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=MPFhwPy6eXFzpt1fe+OyVK8bQsrX1YTGFxpx4IwVFwZpL1RP2MmDFuVyrFNhgYvmb djV0uCrz1GHKYpS16HLnv3EFjDPzGzdmMbuN9d5CMRcIpfQkVSyZ40Kz1N6Xpl3xWO rLN6hWQ8HfoD89tWKoIDJ7dfIww8H2DubLosuF0Y= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1add8d542c742757bc Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Footage of LeMans Spit Tribute car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Oh my. Could this car make an appearance at Summit Point? We are hoping for a Kastner Macau tribute car at Summit Point. Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Oct 1, 2014, at 11:44 AM, "Robert M. Lang" wrote: > > Hi, > > I just posted this video of Bob Totten's LeMans Spitfire replica: > > http://youtu.be/4Lq9SunctrM > > Enjoy. > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 1 17:06:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840502584886 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 17:06:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D09A1258482B for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 17:06:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-aad02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-aad02.mx.aol.com [172.26.127.226]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id EAF537000009D for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 19:09:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.105] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-aad02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 6B8D838000085 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 19:09:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 18:09:29 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1412204976; bh=01XeKGwIyX3pxfwNyOifb/mqDoR2LRI615NO9sGefeo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=sa1mBrdAg8RR6tmlUnpcDQgYqZG0VoCG22My1fiSxsV4/OGcSuoKh6KzADE5oTvp5 A+6MyrxBhZnzhDA8Y1wkGP9GKpEYBlDlqyIVqmeOOvtC74lILgAxDOUAF+v1cd4F5h yggGYgq3Yaz+ifTaA1gYnZX5H0hHUDSPBBbipmgY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a7fe2542c89ab2c3d Subject: [Fot] Famous Kastner Quote Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT: this came from the fertile mind of Kas, a few decades ago. "Anybody can give you romance. I can give you results" And he has....... Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 2 08:23:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25B5258482E for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2014 08:23:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f171.google.com (mail-ie0-f171.google.com [209.85.223.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF44E25807A9 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2014 08:23:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f171.google.com with SMTP id tr6so2640777ieb.30 for ; Thu, 02 Oct 2014 07:26:12 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=d5+SbyZCba7LbXtpFho1JD/ztk9qWiKc235KIAuMl0E=; b=BxefSRNTG6pkzAzWTmG0a8wXS4MJN3KWglPBDWhuGxr2FE5YUJtPfLABaoBiDmbsFX obZLcEWr6VTguJrQchP9Nn13g0i80gzTvWNW86vHhtvNdIVqEOlZHtgTykkhwH+0yXNu MkI/f0Q+k5eBqBNf7BPskjypOrDzezfiI4sUs5ISExozociCZPTNzkb47E/oLhRHf+ZG h1zhBfjkGcbHPuu2/EwuLRFetTAScYKaKY2+yroMnO9ph9plPfSInlgRXe6+sI9Huspd ygyEqB/FO97mF4U9N68xQeQRDr8yYzlEoABXI7P43dOBTJpXjolGRcJDxNzUz73rVbZp dn0g== vk6mr5212758igb.28.1412259972009; Thu, 02 Oct 2014 07:26:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.60.144 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Oct 2014 07:26:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 10:26:11 -0400 From: John Styduhar To: "Triumph 'Friends of Triumph" Subject: [Fot] Business status of Racetorations Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Has anyone had recent contact with Racetorations or know if this company is still solvent? I e-mailed them about a product and haven't heard back. Thanks _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 2 14:52:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C2625845FE for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2014 14:52:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm4-vm10.bt.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm4-vm10.bt.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.99.251]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B962580B7C for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2014 14:52:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [212.82.98.45] by nm4.bt.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2014 20:55:25 -0000 Received: from [212.82.98.37] by tm6.bt.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2014 20:55:25 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1006.bt.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2014 20:55:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 85933 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Oct 2014 20:55:25 -0000 s=s1024; t=1412283325; bh=0sZnBeF5Jb59+m23neKmD1MhLmg0rEv/ZejBNIKFCOo=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LQE7yn1P+cJnbwqi25W+8OpSer4HtrMMWLd5ZIPB9AdO3C4I50x8a1TmZ3jLx1WWry+Z2YTndCgrlYKmWECtOgAW2WKRT5rUsz752+uFcts+J4U71MntNoCK++fXolqNP34isdAw2euL+uPntS3cDRetJZbzPaxUDmBKPDBK9FE= J65VQ0Bn58GQTaAFJp0hMn0QwjdSdVq2g24qTru1jsWy3IYR6gp2rx0AVVoN xwxQrCLU9Gg9gLYvbiUQl1muGOPrgHtBqxdBKlsyJG.R7rXky7WA5c4ejdAW amA83qZ3di6JSfAttoS9uwjA0TrelLkvYLvLAv24M.iYyisWSmg7Pb2UnhBY 4NRFFAd4Nv1871SyWx5KGaXm_U1hUMDrsDkeD0KS7eF6MCfneMCSEjTe40Je hDZ0fw6bkWuZfl0Ax0NfdXEnDFJa1IEFCFgwO4ZGVZi15QWw1n3aJhmzLw2c LbtxesnrBnwTKjuTgiNVPsV3quiDwOAl.BvMehvAitJCbI3m7OEFAROqQ5HH I9RIeD7jT4JfaH.oeuZOB3e7.1sHh0PtwmAEMSqr2Z8YqGumUySYSJP6AH1h 3sDY1un9bwX9Lfv6TZwW1b4JT10ZpHIFyy67egXF5NOVV34tGUF4XANs1axv V.cFVDPZwLViCbv.DAtjXfle1CoLSeBBEoxYkj2wCjgPcsvRolAdYP8AcxOb ZBFIoleuvsuaFYrEzNKJHKSTwrhl4LNFJrEOB5o19eTbX6vUFDI9CwerDuTc j2RH0v6eprIUxLhTNF24Trl3ooomUIVQ- Received: from [87.112.170.80] by web87904.mail.ir2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 02 Oct 2014 21:55:25 BST UmFjZXRvcmF0aW9ucyBpcyBzdGlsbCB2ZXJ5IG11Y2ggaW4gYnVzaW5lc3MgYWx0aG91Z2ggdGhlIHByb3ByaWV0b3IsIERhcnJ5bCBVcHJpY2hhcmQsIGhhcyBiZWVuIHF1aXRlIGlsbCByZWNlbnRseSBidXQgaGFzIG5vdyBmdWxseSByZWNvdmVyZWQuCgpNaWtlIEh1Z2hlcwogCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogRnJvbTogSm9obiBTdHlkdWhhciA8am9obnN0eWRvQGdtYWlsLmNvbT4KVG86IFRyaXVtcGggJ0ZyaWVuZHMgb2YgVHJpdW1waCA8Zm90QGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0PiABMAEBAQE- References: Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 21:55:25 +0100 From: JOSEPH HUGHES To: John Styduhar , Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Business status of Racetorations Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Racetorations is still very much in business although the proprietor, Darryl Uprichard, has been quite ill recently but has now fully recovered. Mike Hughes ________________________________ From: John Styduhar To: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Sent: Thursday, 2 October 2014, 15:26 Subject: [Fot] Business status of Racetorations Has anyone had recent contact with Racetorations or know if this company is still solvent? I e-mailed them about a product and haven't heard back. Thanks _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr5racer@btinternet.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 4 13:04:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889152580973 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2014 13:04:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f173.google.com (mail-qc0-f173.google.com [209.85.216.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2127258462E for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 18:25:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id x13so1376683qcv.4 for ; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 17:28:31 -0700 (PDT) h=content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:from:message-id:date :to:mime-version; bh=6RmV2EiH/fw22WCxJ5akBiNKyiukVPwAs7DwBhTPxew=; b=USMU1GB60M5yJkhETgZAtTcy/thlMaJvFEMsCS9NYE5CtZjls4nEWI/wujGBIBxird IIxGHQNmXPSu0rdwzSRBkVSuaHrOa6NfxFr1tPO3VGibZ1/3GwXg/2H9/nPUBhFlkPEr 92LVUxiqGUZFMfnzsYfJl1tNheY/9meHlo5A4oSpR+Ga1QJMSSE73q0IS6DmRONP2G2V dgIAxCuV0F0g2lyuRj1FDtk8di3sjL8Ge5PKcFSZhTL1Z8kgTX4ZkuJ2HvwpheGnNbUh HJbHvIyP3+cFKVM3C3PtijhO5JAAI5YVmy2oM9DDFEuqwwPitwgkitiCzeH9ygCDW/mr EtJg== g14mr43692278qaq.23.1412209711506; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 17:28:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.17.205.121] ([166.205.49.172]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id l4sm1993561qao.33.2014.10.01.17.28.30 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 01 Oct 2014 17:28:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Ashley Page Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 20:28:32 -0400 To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] Famous Kastner Quote Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Kas's race day strategy: "Get a big lead........then extend it." Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 4 15:03:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADEAF25806EE for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2014 15:03:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m1.mx.aol.com (omr-m1.mx.aol.com [64.12.224.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6260425806EE for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2014 15:03:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-aan02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-aan02.mx.aol.com [172.27.19.78]) by omr-m1.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8F37B3800005E for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2014 17:06:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.105] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-aan02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id A5A6838000084 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2014 17:06:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2014 16:06:17 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1412456777; bh=nMOAkkVwapeDeS85TAjWeNMTpzG+/HSuJEtbK5e2tYY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=sWH1POLrbOSuCv9nNmr/A/lituImKymgTwP5wbwcLo1O2JM60Dx4hBlwjvQAVR+p1 lA/r6l1oogkHDgw9WYn5I9K/wt9zy/Wuol8cGEVCIU0BtqRjphS+D4u0hDndzrsE2H GsqcKMA1H1qocSQTF9qSwnaZT4sZCY3eFV82nAiw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b134e543061481aa7 Subject: [Fot] Joe@the-vintage-racer.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT Mark was not fond of my AOL/Compuserve subscription, so now I have a Gmail based address. This is a test to see if it works. The AOL based address wasn't working out. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- While I am at it. Here's an announcement related to Triumphs and the FOT. Silver Lake Triumph Center now has a home in an Industrial Park in south east Wisconsin. While traveling last week, I stopped into to see Owner/Founder Steve Yott. Two car lifts, machine shop, and a lifetime accumulation of special TR tools. We are spending more time with Steve with various projects and it is working out very well for us. And he is ten minutes away from a rolling road dyno. We are going to do that next. More on this later.....I want to see how this test goes. Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 4 17:11:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC11D258043F for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2014 17:11:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB32258043F for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2014 17:11:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1722C01AD for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2014 17:14:18 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2014 17:14:17 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: fot@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Fot] Joe@the-vintage-racer.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe Alexander wrote: > FOT > > Mark was not fond of my AOL/Compuserve subscription, so now I have a Gmail > based address. This is a test to see if it works. The AOL based address > wasn't working out. AOL has always been problematic, and trust me, not only for Team.Net. Hope this works out. On a side note, spent a bit of time working on Team.Net today. Brought back the forums, though there might be some missing posts. The latest backup of that data got trashed during the break ins and power surges a while back. What fun. But the overpaid, underworked chump behind the curtain does manage to get something useful done once in a while. Check out the forum with the link below. I enjoy looking at the old pictures in the land speed forum from the salt flats. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 4 23:06:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15842584671 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2014 23:06:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-05v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-05v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.164]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BEB2258082B for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2014 23:05:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-15v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.239]) by resqmta-po-05v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id zH8t1o0015AAYLo01H8tkM; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 05:08:53 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-503v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.178.3]) by resomta-po-15v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id zH8s1o00F04nC6y01H8s6a; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 05:08:53 +0000 Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 05:08:52 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Friends of Triumph Thread-Topic: Sonoma qualifying race Thread-Index: iYJfAYLs/UTL884BjCogUuIt2UR4tA== s=q20140121; t=1412485733; bh=DltoLiqMWVh4iKzX0c6CnlJkvLeFfDhYvgjnz0GX0Qw=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=Xw3Bw8MJlpwLWkApn4SmJvh5/w1WOqGloMVTlq04hUSeVp7hsycIhGd7JJGRYI63G +M6rJTQstCRYDlvTgnv7Gr1H0kgtEInsVHKKJucl6nADS/ihqQsCdVRuwGlLCnZ7h7 LmoilxZw8UQkujqj/lvUWUckp2psdlOMQonu4YL8vlyiYrAY8iAb5qOlbDG61lCfPc flJ1CB1z8/nMJfgGjYL6ZJNSMgDUeaK0CItElFB8eBNaeDcmizL26xP+r7mi62DOru 4c1eAZ3/o7SQIvVJ9r+BTlTGPzSuM6ozIOy3NLeDnpP39EogwzIilkOM3sm8GGKapz +Qw4qBoTfVQDw== Subject: [Fot] Sonoma qualifying race Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, I had a great qualifying race today with my TR3. Timed practice put me 8 on the grid of a very mixed group of cars. At some point I got passed by 2 very fast cars that usually run in other groups and started back in the pack. One was a Huffaker MGA and the Corvair powered Pirana, but I passed 5 other cars for 5 place. I raced hard against a veteran Spitfire racer who blatantly blocked me for a few laps before he finally made a mistake giving me the inside to make the pass exiting turn 11. Unfortunately, my GoPro battery ran out and I didn't get video. It was a very exciting and close racing. The video would have been great. About 45 minutes from the start, while checking lug torque, I noticed a little grease on a rear wheel. Uh oh, I pulled the wheel and had a real mess to clean up, bearing seal let all it's grease fly and gear oil followed. I just cleaned it good and put it back together. It's still passed some gear oil in the race, but I'll just be cleaning it to get through the weekend. Oily shoes didn't seam to make a noticeable difference. I'll let you know how Sunday's 2 races go. Dave _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 5 01:01:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8DC82584581 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 01:01:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f170.google.com (mail-wi0-f170.google.com [209.85.212.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30C2258074D for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 01:01:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f170.google.com with SMTP id hi2so4395534wib.1 for ; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 00:04:29 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:cc:content-type; bh=DUrSPR9ePM0C8oevO6n2aVLtOvyum7E2a6bUXdyKZ5o=; b=NSEQC9iKR+eQziCM/1RI9hSq0atXpLgxBTR3n1NFfpbweKs1KTekLtUkgHqksquay9 UOYebDJCqH4X8DR7cgebOYPAAyRRCeC51Yt6sQIHp7yHP9kodODbRzuGtBVJjz5bGD0F f+57mZNuRGNlUTYLxkEEylgcO2LVE+TtTIdtugEuk14NxOGv0scbrH8O38VXq8xkl2sd uSdwy0I5gJ1GegeznmOwtWpFcyNvJRjjzEtNuUAqjN2zjpivhwmBc9F48V3+a+2Sva2f Uxhs2bT//v2PVNcqO6ujdEpacv/2eBfs47VUhaccaeGUWfVS+wu7QUXPbHA8uOmdDH2c fd7w== ps7mr20759375wjc.28.1412492669347; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 00:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.217.97.7 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 00:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.217.97.7 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 00:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 09:04:29 +0200 From: Christian Marx Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Frank Monise at the Ring Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi guys, Frank Monise is here in Germany and sharing a pit with us. Hope he is telling nice stories after the return to USA. Cheers Chris Am 04.10.2014 21:06 schrieb "Ashley Page" : > Kas's race day strategy: > > "Get a big lead........then extend it." > > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 5 05:56:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F367258527A for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 05:56:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7822584B72 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 05:56:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [68.205.19.176] ([68.205.19.176:49679] helo=Davis.local) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 0B/9D-22384-F8231345; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 11:59:11 +0000 Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2014 07:59:10 -0400 From: Bob Davis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.0 To: fot@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Fot] Frank Monise at the Ring Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Great Datsun roadster racer for Pete Brock..... On 10/5/14 3:04 AM, Christian Marx wrote: > Hi guys, > > Frank Monise is here in Germany and sharing a pit with us. > Hope he is telling nice stories after the return to USA. > > Cheers > Chris > Am 04.10.2014 21:06 schrieb "Ashley Page" : > >> Kas's race day strategy: >> >> "Get a big lead........then extend it." >> >> Sent from my iPad >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rdavis4@cfl.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 5 09:44:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2050B25850C3 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 09:44:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm9-vm7.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm9-vm7.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.187]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF36F25807BA for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 09:43:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.175] by nm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Oct 2014 15:46:59 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.240] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Oct 2014 15:46:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1011.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Oct 2014 15:46:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 13572 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Oct 2014 15:46:58 -0000 s=s1024; t=1412524018; bh=kZU4n0Mp8HDFaRwT2hv8IccQruu3LGS77RSvMbqDVvQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LowlVU8v6E+jHvtM/m9jD7TTLXfPnzKICwJlR0oWmg5hoplOGuSNyS5dZyT1IJkDjZoYtUKTs3fh14V5khPDI9I05W34GEPQecNN3Gof6hWeUSmZM5WnSZ98ngULb2nWbni9YLK9XYHdoNXlBkj5llmkshkW04HQqQUIFcUfmdc= haluiK0zuAvHMgOPHCSrqfxNc1Zlns0Jdx556s9u5yNCAAdgbv1F645ntTWu 3UQBkN6tR269PPrl9wShEbrbiAWHU_sqaqP6C6KAzzByVnBScTeaXbDient2 9I8YdEDg.V97Qic_TacSRzSN88QWZsCI7tLnAdWUvHjkrlhgscdsWXrUJOwV Pnmo5UhWhIsVZollE3N8krdnyuUEf3PWrQGMRjsD9nSSVsBb9bQyfl7nbp.s Por4k3cP1XDgzqI0wMp76.3S9kfEn3Ut3aCg1svgJRG3drW3Inn1XOfgwLQL pqRFim_LiYsptUSOEdLNGvmn2B0dOuNgEJuk9eOGt9wrrBRa1ZHK9rObja1r AZ3wRoMj_j5dbL2XV9Um1iCkpG.VR_Q4_3NhzjSt7xMx2rOzNTdJYzJGxoZ1 Uw_jn8DXN3LhumZ3TwvKA2el6CEr4AAWqp0RUzxeVxSkpdviwxR5qG5fWylg _XBE.WPhTDcs_TPUZuHNXE0KjSnMYZXofOxSgOe1B.tySOaOPFP7sxNyGpbN z7ct_mDfPEHaTu.k- Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web184706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 08:46:58 PDT R3JvdXA6CkkgYW0gdHJ5aW5nIHRvIGNsZWFyIHNvbWUgc2hlbGYgc3BhY2UgaW4gdGhlIHNob3Agc3RvY2sgcm9vbSBhbmQgd291bGQgbGlrZSB0byBvZmZlciB0aGlzIHN0dWZmIHRvIHRoZSBncm91cC4gSSBoYXZlIGEgY29sbGVjdGlvbiBvZiBjYW1zIEkgaGF2ZSBiZWVuIHNhdmluZyBmb3IgY29yZXMsIGJ1dCBtb3N0IG9mIG15IGN1c3RvbWVycyBoYXZlIGJlZW4gYnV5aW5nIG5ldyBjYW1zIG91dHJpZ2h0LiBUaGVzZSBhcmUgYWxsIG9yaWdpbmFsLi4ubm90IHJlZ3JvdW5kLiBJIHdpbGwgYmUgc2F2aW4BMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 08:46:58 -0700 From: EDWARD BARNARD To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Clear shelve space! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Group: I am trying to clear some shelf space in the shop stock room and would like to offer this stuff to the group. I have a collection of cams I have been saving for cores, but most of my customers have been buying new cams outright. These are all original...not reground. I will be saving one of each type and getting rid of the remainder. I have for your use: 3 ea. TR2-TR4 3 ea. TR250-TR6 1 ea. Spit 1500 1 ea. MGB I believe I can fit the TR2-4 cams in a USPS Medium Flat Rate box for $14.00 and the TR250-6 cams in a Large (longer length) Flat Rate box for $19.50. these can go anywhere in the U.S. for that rate, and is really a deal considering the weight. I'm sure I can fit four cams in the appropriate length box, maybe more. If you want some of each cam they need to ship in the longer box. The quoted cost includes what PayPal charges for the transfer. These are first come/first served. Tell me what you want and your address and I'll send you a PP bill for the shipping. Don't make me toss these in the recycle bin. -Eclectic Ed- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 5 12:13:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9AE25809FC for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 12:13:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f175.google.com (mail-lb0-f175.google.com [209.85.217.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9D02580041 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 12:11:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f175.google.com with SMTP id u10so3229681lbd.34 for ; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 11:14:43 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=+SSnMbn5dW+idvuTYm7lIDbaR/Px9YIVzrMo43cxbYA=; b=LehileS6Zdj8x9L89L6Jr129xQmJzlIn43T2/VqlK6uUpptqBMhPhJ26kLMR183T/9 30IB2jef+iavAHwH5pXkzypxAk6bCWVNM/E1eO6n674fn2RB21cmP8QhKfMZoloeRdsH ixmZ3uGaumto+L1iM8jK7gx6sb/6rsVUOXO77gK1b66cf+w45SVQE2Bw0fIGQ8MRix60 YKZbTNBHW4yhcW6cU0fPCfuwpy+c+2jBnj9VlMDpQdGDu4mnWjcdzYLDmrfwOo+fXpVl K0T5rgtSR3F29d5XjLCeYpXBA8hFmMsIuH013lsJYdPOkRIcZQbUpd9ZKEVzg3UjPESb k8Ig== h9mr19623054laa.27.1412532883707; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 11:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.20.72 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 11:14:03 -0700 (PDT) References: <5431328E.5050101@cfl.rr.com> From: Kas Kastner Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 11:14:03 -0700 To: Bob Davis Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Frank Monise at the Ring Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I think you will find it was Frankie's FATHER that was the driver for Pete Brock. , Frank Monise SR. *Never be beaten by equipment.* On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 4:59 AM, Bob Davis wrote: > Great Datsun roadster racer for Pete Brock..... > > > On 10/5/14 3:04 AM, Christian Marx wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > Frank Monise is here in Germany and sharing a pit with us. > > Hope he is telling nice stories after the return to USA. > > > > Cheers > > Chris > > Am 04.10.2014 21:06 schrieb "Ashley Page" : > > > >> Kas's race day strategy: > >> > >> "Get a big lead........then extend it." > >> > >> Sent from my iPad > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rdavis4@cfl.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 10:52:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E4A2584C44 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 10:52:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1DE8258099A for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 10:48:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.226]) by resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id zsri1o0074tLnxL01sroqK; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 16:51:48 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-503v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.178.3]) by resomta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id zsro1o00704nC6y01sroX2; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 16:51:48 +0000 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 16:51:47 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Friends of Triumph Thread-Topic: Sonoma race results #63 TR3 Thread-Index: +y8cvsMXrDj6f8NKxMjYcI15dxtl9A== s=q20140121; t=1412614308; bh=Py2+7e2YVY0Fb3UxZg1jZxYzA91mjcgexlr9DlI2dwc=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=oQbxHnBFAcl5boTR2qGCDUUYTux6sXdenl2pKEeeFZ+75xV2Ui8VZPe6pX6XFovcj UWuOWz9fUlkLA8QRQHVGQfPqAK3q1IKn9KZs25PHKZl11plyxd8zwmTynfYq30s4aa SIvBSPXahaFCcc4CayXgLVGMNEoGGKFaymtG5Nqz4htj3sqrKLdQultlnGKTX571iA Xm9c2ti4HCHryS8tlWPYU49YsH2O7qUhXLEEDu6oVmjdbBuR7NoQD+MFk03udMYDl4 Zq0TToyDUlTuSW8GvX488dvKQjq9LxmqEFd+VnueW0qiOwW/j1k7FhOO2Clgwbb+wD YnimH9oqKUJiA== Subject: [Fot] Sonoma race results #63 TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, I started 4th and finished 5th in the Sunday morning race. Best lap 2:06 to the winners 2:01 in the Huffaker MGA. 2nd place, Corvair Piranha 3rd place, FIA Triumph Spitfire, the driver Stan Rinne has over 500 races under his belt. He said I was able to pass him in the quali race because of the old tires on his car. He ran a fresh set on Sunday. 4th place, SCCA Alfa Giulietta Second race started 5th and finished 10th. Best lap 2:07. Got passed by a few cars that I was able to keep behind me in the first race as well as a Lister Chevy, Kurtiss 500S and a '55 Maserati 250F. I managed my rear axle seal problem with a disposable shop towel and a zip tie. I got some good video that I'll share later. There was some real close racing with my TR and I had a blast. This was my second race weekend as a driver. Dave H. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 11:07:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731F72584C91 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 11:07:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-10v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-10v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB612580AF2 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 11:00:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.100]) by resqmta-ch2-10v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id zt3Q1o0022AWL2D01t3jgl; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:03:43 +0000 Received: from TommyPC ([67.164.124.195]) by resomta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id zt2Y1o00J4D3utv01t3Tbu; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:03:41 +0000 From: "Bud DeLauer" To: "'davehogye'" , "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <175318608.3131927.1412612442987.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <330756783.3169325.1412614307832.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 10:02:39 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac/hh1WJuz3H2lLoTXSCkFWS/Q31QA== Content-Language: en-us s=q20140121; t=1412615023; bh=efhLYmiT2LArelcDDoUh8uajeuj3u2/mCJUthGggwiY=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=wUYwmDw3MnQ66BAVNDNdq6vGODQGxxOvOJ9vNONXm7do0DW/WMn9dr68Gw1EX5dNu VEDnEp5I52m4ZvXKMII/4gL5MsbxvxPYjl7SWwojLpBNiBIY/HUEhev10sx2bJJ5l2 2U8LwB8PGpi9HvViSYY2VFqBLIFve2Ic6vWxdqyPqW329Ff+CnwReBGLoGb5aDn+lv 7dBUEQSqkLS4BvrgJ8n4jcjNNAds7fljgpo1BDqBTo4aEKnT6QzVN1FJjRPTmVxvG/ Ut3ePMEvN9/+RDkioseWJBIi8GJJCHfytNK5LwGZa9b9TyRryomBy4mnr0OrNun8dT DVwyZUx1prMdw== Subject: Re: [Fot] Sonoma race results #63 TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You looked great out there Dave...I was surprised when I saw you and Stan running close..He's very good(as well as a good guy)....It was great to see you you and chat for a while Racer Bud -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of davehogye Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 9:52 AM To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Sonoma race results #63 TR3 Hello Friends, I started 4th and finished 5th in the Sunday morning race. Best lap 2:06 to the winners 2:01 in the Huffaker MGA. 2nd place, Corvair Piranha 3rd place, FIA Triumph Spitfire, the driver Stan Rinne has over 500 races under his belt. He said I was able to pass him in the quali race because of the old tires on his car. He ran a fresh set on Sunday. 4th place, SCCA Alfa Giulietta Second race started 5th and finished 10th. Best lap 2:07. Got passed by a few cars that I was able to keep behind me in the first race as well as a Lister Chevy, Kurtiss 500S and a '55 Maserati 250F. I managed my rear axle seal problem with a disposable shop towel and a zip tie. I got some good video that I'll share later. There was some real close racing with my TR and I had a blast. This was my second race weekend as a driver. Dave H. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars@comcast.net --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 11:23:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAEE52584C96 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 11:23:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.dieselperformanceparts.com (mail.dieselperformanceparts.com [173.221.146.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20DC258099A for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 11:19:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DIESEL-SERVER.dppi.local ([fe80::b8f5:2ae1:37b2:f00b]) by DIESEL-SERVER.dppi.local ([fe80::b8f5:2ae1:37b2:f00b%10]) with mapi; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 12:22:52 -0500 From: Diesel Performance Parts - Info To: "'fot@autox.team.net'" , Diesel Performance Parts - Info , "'slaterptrs@gmail.com'" Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 12:22:51 -0500 Thread-Topic: Round Tail Spitfire Bonnet help Thread-Index: Ac/hiMy+DQsxIb6hTgeGwjtID3+Stw== Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: [Fot] Round Tail Spitfire Bonnet help Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Morning members, 1st off let me say that someone here contacted Tim Slater about a bonnet he and I did some trading on. Whoever that was a concern that I was unhappy with the deal. NOTHUNG and I MAEN nothing could be further from the truth. If any of you know Tim, there's pretty much nothing you can fault about him, except maybe his alcohol consumption at the track anyway. HA HA HA. Tim has been a good friend and is always willing to help no matter the mess you might be in. Anyway I am in need of the welded on parts that are the hinge points on a round tail Spitfire to hinge the bonnet. Does anyone have a junk rusty frame that they could cut them off of and sell them to me??? It would be great if you cut off the entire curved piece where the bolt on as that will allow me to remove them to my liking and such prior to welding them on my car. As always any help is appreciated. FYI: The person that poked me in the eye with a hot stick is an FOT member named Mark that lives in NY and was a parts selling guy on here and in his local area. He recently sold his GT6 race car and is fighting cancer and such. He got me pretty good on the deal we did on a GT6 bonnet and the only reason I posted it here was to protect others that might get in dealing with him. Have a good one and send me some bonnet parts PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, INC. 411 Allied Drive Nashville, TN 37211 866-455-7788 Phone 615-834-9923 Fax www.dieselperformanceparts.comhad a _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 11:53:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7E225809A4 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 11:53:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (fed1rmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4747F258462A for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 11:48:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo110 ([68.230.241.159]) by fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20141006175158.FHO8128.fed1rmfepo202.cox.net@fed1rmimpo110> for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 13:51:58 -0400 Received: from Bedroom ([68.228.216.208]) by fed1rmimpo110 with cox id ztrx1o00T4WMef001trxzB; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 13:51:58 -0400 a=PJyjlI7pmsVcK2Dcrhg44w==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=3ctBNJsyKNDaNtbvX5YA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=Ume8oppRF2UA:10 a=qX_BA2Utg88A:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=iWSAX1uKl7VGfvSf:21 a=cJXvU6xgqm2-he5A:21 a=PJyjlI7pmsVcK2Dcrhg44w==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: "'Diesel Performance Parts - Info'" , , References: Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 10:52:02 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac/hiMy+DQsxIb6hTgeGwjtID3+StwABVJng Subject: Re: [Fot] Round Tail Spitfire Bonnet help Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You should be more specific. The bonnet hinges changed between the Mk2 and Mk3 models. Joe C. -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Diesel Performance Parts - Info Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 10:23 AM To: 'fot@autox.team.net'; Diesel Performance Parts - Info; 'slaterptrs@gmail.com' Subject: [Fot] Round Tail Spitfire Bonnet help Morning members, 1st off let me say that someone here contacted Tim Slater about a bonnet he and I did some trading on. Whoever that was a concern that I was unhappy with the deal. NOTHUNG and I MAEN nothing could be further from the truth. If any of you know Tim, there's pretty much nothing you can fault about him, except maybe his alcohol consumption at the track anyway. HA HA HA. Tim has been a good friend and is always willing to help no matter the mess you might be in. Anyway I am in need of the welded on parts that are the hinge points on a round tail Spitfire to hinge the bonnet. Does anyone have a junk rusty frame that they could cut them off of and sell them to me??? It would be great if you cut off the entire curved piece where the bolt on as that will allow me to remove them to my liking and such prior to welding them on my car. As always any help is appreciated. FYI: The person that poked me in the eye with a hot stick is an FOT member named Mark that lives in NY and was a parts selling guy on here and in his local area. He recently sold his GT6 race car and is fighting cancer and such. He got me pretty good on the deal we did on a GT6 bonnet and the only reason I posted it here was to protect others that might get in dealing with him. Have a good one and send me some bonnet parts PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, INC. 411 Allied Drive Nashville, TN 37211 866-455-7788 Phone 615-834-9923 Fax www.dieselperformanceparts.comhad a _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist@cox.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 11:53:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA322580AF2 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 11:53:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm3-vm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm3-vm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A682A25803B5 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 11:49:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.169] by nm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2014 17:52:36 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.252] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2014 17:52:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1023.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2014 17:52:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 59154 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Oct 2014 17:52:36 -0000 s=s1024; t=1412617956; bh=fwGSexpb8K54qxUwKDKolnbCPhJiXWYguUZf7/t+VaU=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LnC3TtP2gk6dD0gwPwDCz+0wLE4JSRQBhG5BkJcQ851TntD1LDLF7oC2Qe7bZPUwfNDQPcaAZ9MnsxcT4N1vy1yjq3N1Q83XCJqtjQz4kfNqori0qPiHg/7LqYO/nldXfqR14yRa2obW6p20FxrRV1EWMAck/TSL6Ps6lq4N7+Y= AHB22uRBZhZaUJ6exFXC_PoqDF5AtUw9LmtgJOxCWtv69cwq_v_NIAyvmocm K7gWg3Y7og3aY6zvkbg9lrWNQsh2OYYT4Zv3844E1dS0xK6vx9p338Q.mZc3 w0IskEb__U5DoZeeeLd8u9JMon8fvNpeXEA4qiB0vQW0A4.wX9KSij4sFvd7 Whpl5y2.tq742mJOiQv0_3ivH7gzdsDhjTmw0h.Ctjd_Mi15DHptDfk9o6pY RyIrBN6IdGgi319MG_b50pxhwzoVDdW0Kc0he3Y.HofHs2dE83uyWg7Ej64O xFyWwY9PJmWV_hCaRXviIRnja5.GgWNAoqxQawIwH6CXT4Ds0kW25w8eyOCe MlJFerNNxqy2CAdv9KcO7b3RKfAtRDVxDHtQ5_QuOUc7FgA114cwjvlW_vmY YfBXIQrgtmVdaKfyXaMbZupRoEbx9IYuJzvwGgZ0jXz_01HHhWuQ_rROEiM2 w85H042Hw8yDVvVAQOAxuZusTYKuv_loe6WtsmRd34rXpcV.g6ODKfUWe20. 4E9FyQwRfA3a72cLpzmbcuS4H8xa6_jEHxh.v7XqCJxUTJQx1pZr1EhkYP_z 4ONWp Received: from [99.162.149.142] by web180903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 10:52:36 PDT RGF2ZSwKCkl0IHdhcyBnb29kIHRvIG1lZXQgeW91IHRoaXMgd2Vla2VuZC4gIFRoZSBjYXIgbG9va3MgZ3JlYXQgYW5kIHlvdSBhcmUgZG9pbmcgdmVyeSB3ZWxsIGluIHlvdXIgcm9va2llIHNlYXNvbi4KClRpbSBQZXR0ZW5hdGkKIAoKCk9uIE1vbmRheSwgT2N0b2JlciA2LCAyMDE0IDk6NTEgQU0sIGRhdmVob2d5ZSA8ZGxob2d5ZUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldD4gd3JvdGU6CiAgCgoKSGVsbG8gRnJpZW5kcywgCkkgc3RhcnRlZCA0dGggYW5kIGZpbmlzaGVkIDV0aCBpbiB0aGUgU3VuZGF5IG1vcm5pbmcgcmFjZS4BMAEBAQE- References: <175318608.3131927.1412612442987.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <330756783.3169325.1412614307832.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 10:52:36 -0700 From: Tim Pettenati To: davehogye , Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Sonoma race results #63 TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Dave, It was good to meet you this weekend. The car looks great and you are doing very well in your rookie season. Tim Pettenati On Monday, October 6, 2014 9:51 AM, davehogye wrote: Hello Friends, I started 4th and finished 5th in the Sunday morning race. Best lap 2:06 to the winners 2:01 in the Huffaker MGA. 2nd place, Corvair Piranha 3rd place, FIA Triumph Spitfire, the driver Stan Rinne has over 500 races under his belt. He said I was able to pass him in the quali race because of the old tires on his car. He ran a fresh set on Sunday. 4th place, SCCA Alfa Giulietta Second race started 5th and finished 10th. Best lap 2:07. Got passed by a few cars that I was able to keep behind me in the first race as well as a Lister Chevy, Kurtiss 500S and a '55 Maserati 250F. I managed my rear axle seal problem with a disposable shop towel and a zip tie. I got some good video that I'll share later. There was some real close racing with my TR and I had a blast. This was my second race weekend as a driver. Dave H. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 13:38:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920312584567 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 13:38:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC2S3.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s3.hotmail.com [65.55.111.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2A225806B8 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 13:38:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU173-W21 ([65.55.111.72]) by BLU004-OMC2S3.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Mon, 6 Oct 2014 12:41:35 -0700 From: Henry Morrison To: fot Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 13:41:34 -0600 FILETIME=[89DC3960:01CFE19D] Subject: [Fot] difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Good Day, Could someone refresh me on the centers of the ports on the early style cylinder head? Thanks in advance, Henry Morrison Albuquerque, NM _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 13:41:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C4C2584584 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 13:41:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (smtpauth04a.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.160]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27FAF25806B8 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 13:40:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Charly (unknown [63.228.115.77]) (Authenticated sender: charly@mitchelplumbing.com) by smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E5B0C5D809F; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 14:43:49 -0500 (CDT) From: "Charly Mitchel" To: "Henry Morrison" , "fot" References: Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 12:43:47 -0700 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The earlier heads are closer together, I believe the same as GT6 Heads. Charly Mitchel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry Morrison" To: "fot" Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 12:41 PM Subject: [Fot] difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head > Good Day, Could someone refresh me on the centers of the ports on the > early > style cylinder head? > > Thanks in advance, > > Henry Morrison Albuquerque, NM > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 13:53:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5561525845BF for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 13:53:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm25.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm25.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.88]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0430C2580458 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 13:52:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.100.111] by nm25.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2014 19:55:40 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.236] by tm100.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2014 19:55:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1036.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2014 19:55:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 38613 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Oct 2014 19:55:40 -0000 s=s1024; t=1412625340; bh=rT7waE+rGWWjvAkIcfiWL4a5Ypj8dm9u5bSHaAzogsk=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5SXehqs4tDGl/y3+d+aqWBx0ZmR4ROnPqo5Sp6ssqS7FQe6Z6XHs7AYAPnVdcAe86VQ6BWmVzVZO5I8d1YJb1cWcGeI8heI3rn4Cv3qHr2weSEhe9vIXoA4R+xqkmXYe4myULCAxIEbJ5eagWGKmp/ZmmVBNRYgnkyzz8Dw75ao= 7O1eMqRHEIztw9hOEGHIwm1hiFdO_GmJk.MyatAmhe6YgNRviFLeoGP98N1m NtUWrBi1X2rXqImvRL7W7gU8hIHlGTF6D_gQwuUQ7SxBbEUzvX8zPPWzpu8Y buwTFUJ4mv3Zy0lIuuUC.hLtLk.QukWPL1Teh7RfLqvWLGQu6Km_JvZo0A0Q ifXPSsKCng_3xKREjGaNtx21WcbbhbJrKlO_Ib9KVKzyqo4bUDoLrYMm0lDZ wReYVt_P8jd8Y49xCliPnmTHEPA7IWHcAjkWEZRYDB2SjjTvHRnqxF7eEjMF obZvN.TljojOmCEbH_L0llCGuJxTgZCFvA_kCRQyAv..n.U66Av6TNCfxDVK V6V6EJ88CUzkAjtJpWRVpNoNmJU78Er7WYRKJVIMpX9OM6.3IT0tMvKAR1Oy b671K66xgT5jpq..ECZec9N02WVCfgasl_PIM_jnwnYtSDDMw1pE5xkwBVcV Ax0VEE8jpXSS0KktEG2T2sWOQ23GPNXRGYsgH8S0fZSNi5265IiYOjfj6YfG XjmlJ9uqXrbreEjI2_BdyV14YMIF4oJjcy.F1SeCNzECagiD.UbLiUcY3.sr OqKMRNlRx Received: from [50.241.100.45] by web121403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 12:55:40 PDT VGhlIEdUNiBNSyAyIGFuZCAzIGhhdmUgdGhlIHdpZGVyIHBvcnRzIGFzIGRvZXMgdGhlIGxhdGVyIFRSNiBoZWFkcy4gVGhlIFRSMjUwIChhbmQgSSB0aGluayB0aGUgdmVyeSBlYXJseSBUUjYpIGhhcyB0aGUgbmFycm93IHBvcnQgaGVhZCAoaW50YWtlIHBvcnRzIGNsb3NlciB0b2dldGhlcikuCkJyaWFuCkZvc3RlciwgUkkKCgo.X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KPiBGcm9tOiBDaGFybHkgTWl0Y2hlbCA8Y2hhcmx5QG1pdGNoZWxwbHVtYmluZy5jb20.Cj5UbzogSGVucnkgTW9ycmkBMAEBAQE- References: <5B15BC606DA04D07839D7EF26E490078@Charly> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 12:55:40 -0700 From: Brian Dennis To: Charly Mitchel , Henry Morrison , fot Subject: Re: [Fot] difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The GT6 MK 2 and 3 have the wider ports as does the later TR6 heads. The TR250 (and I think the very early TR6) has the narrow port head (intake ports closer together). Brian Foster, RI >________________________________ > From: Charly Mitchel >To: Henry Morrison ; fot >Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 3:43 PM >Subject: Re: [Fot] difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head > > >The earlier heads are closer together, I believe the same as GT6 Heads. >Charly Mitchel >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Henry Morrison" >To: "fot" >Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 12:41 PM >Subject: [Fot] difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head > > >> Good Day, Could someone refresh me on the centers of the ports on the >> early >> style cylinder head? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Henry Morrison Albuquerque, NM >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britracer89@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 13:55:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A30792584B12 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 13:55:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (smtpauth04a.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.160]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51522258460E for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 13:55:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Charly (unknown [63.228.115.77]) (Authenticated sender: charly@mitchelplumbing.com) by smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 2E3095D80A1; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 14:58:39 -0500 (CDT) From: "Charly Mitchel" To: "Brian Dennis" , "Henry Morrison" , "fot" References: <5B15BC606DA04D07839D7EF26E490078@Charly> <1412625340.69954.YahooMailNeo@web121403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 12:58:36 -0700 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net TR6 changed about 1972, I believe. Charly Mitchel ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Dennis To: Charly Mitchel ; Henry Morrison ; fot Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head The GT6 MK 2 and 3 have the wider ports as does the later TR6 heads. The TR250 (and I think the very early TR6) has the narrow port head (intake ports closer together). Brian Foster, RI ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charly Mitchel To: Henry Morrison ; fot Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head The earlier heads are closer together, I believe the same as GT6 Heads. Charly Mitchel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry Morrison" To: "fot" Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 12:41 PM Subject: [Fot] difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head > Good Day, Could someone refresh me on the centers of the ports on the > early > style cylinder head? > > Thanks in advance, > > Henry Morrison Albuquerque, NM > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britracer89@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 14:23:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E4A2584AAE for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 14:23:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC2S9.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s9.hotmail.com [65.55.111.84]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2A0258460E for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 14:18:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU173-W2 ([65.55.111.73]) by BLU004-OMC2S9.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Mon, 6 Oct 2014 13:22:05 -0700 From: Henry Morrison To: Charly Mitchel , Brian Dennis , fot Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 14:22:05 -0600 References: <5B15BC606DA04D07839D7EF26E490078@Charly> <1412625340.69954.YahooMailNeo@web121403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>, FILETIME=[3266A3E0:01CFE1A3] Subject: Re: [Fot] difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Right, the movement was in the vertical plane, the head I have is about 1" center of intake to center of exhaust, both manifolds will bolt up but the ports are off a little bit. Any body know what the offset on the early or late head is? Cheers, Henry From: charly@mitchelplumbing.com To: britracer89@yahoo.com; dos_gusanos@msn.com; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 12:58:36 -0700 TR6 changed about 1972, I believe. Charly Mitchel ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Dennis To: Charly Mitchel ; Henry Morrison ; fot Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head The GT6 MK 2 and 3 have the wider ports as does the later TR6 heads. The TR250 (and I think the very early TR6) has the narrow port head (intake ports closer together). Brian Foster, RI From: Charly Mitchel To: Henry Morrison ; fot Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head The earlier heads are closer together, I believe the same as GT6 Heads. Charly Mitchel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry Morrison" To: "fot" Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 12:41 PM Subject: [Fot] difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head > Good Day, Could someone refresh me on the centers of the ports on the > early > style cylinder head? > > Thanks in advance, > > Henry Morrison Albuquerque, NM > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britracer89@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 14:24:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B9B2584B3E for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 14:24:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-relay-3.cniteam.com (omr-relay-3.cniteam.com [209.143.0.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AAA4258460E for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 14:22:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rg7.cniteam.com (rg7.cniteam.com [209.143.0.247]) by omr-relay-3.cniteam.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s96KP5F8052569 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 16:25:44 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([216.201.14.237]) by rg7.cniteam.com (MOS 4.4.5-GA) with ESMTP id BEF30603 (AUTH tws@bright.net) for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 16:25:43 -0400 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 16:25:46 -0400 From: Ted Schumacher User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: fot@autox.team.net References: refid=2.7.2:2014.10.6.200019:17:9.975, ip=, rules=__MOZILLA_MSGID, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, DATE_TZ_NA, __HAS_FROM, __USER_AGENT, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NO_NAME, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __IN_REP_TO, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __TO_IN_SUBJECT, __ANY_URI, URI_ENDS_IN_HTML, __FRAUD_CONTACT_NUM, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, __C230066_P5, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __PHISH_SPEAR_GREETING, __FORWARDED_MSG, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_800_899, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_NXDOMAIN, __URI_NS, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, BODY_SIZE_1000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, TO_IN_SUBJECT, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS refid=str=0001.0A020202.5432FAC7.01A4,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2014-06-20 05:37:11, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46, mode=multiengine Subject: Re: [Fot] difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Early - 5/8"; later - 7/8". Ted On 10/6/2014 3:41 PM, Henry Morrison wrote: > Good Day, Could someone refresh me on the centers of the ports on the early > style cylinder head? > > Thanks in advance, > > Henry Morrison Albuquerque, NM > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tedtsimx@bright.net > > > > -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx@bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 14:43:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0126E2584A5F for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 14:43:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3FB0258463E for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 14:43:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157502C013C for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 14:46:50 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 14:46:50 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: fot References: Subject: Re: [Fot] difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Henry Morrison wrote: > Good Day, Could someone refresh me on the centers of the ports on the early > style cylinder head? Drat. I used to have the numbers in my head. Oh well, the onset of CRS. The close port heads are 1.91 center to center, the later 2.21 inches. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 15:55:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E58258478C for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 15:55:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m07.mx.aol.com (omr-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4B7D258460E for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 14:22:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aam02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aam02.mx.aol.com [172.27.19.148]) by omr-m07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 225E5700362E9; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 16:25:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mla005a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mla005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.186.83]) by mtaomg-aam02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E234F3800008E; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 16:25:40 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 16:25:40 -0400 To: fot@autox.team.net, Bakerharolda@aol.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1412627141; bh=9qlKF+7Pj5dC1aRzopGr9qesMtI0OJVcDfHUGTVQ/DA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=00rD2dh2ApY8aGAQAzDtxWX3K7yoKx7wdlqFffLBiNL3zJG7QXR2HodvdzLyB9+f5 j1/O5KfWYPtqRL47NfUza3KKRRBgYXQBGPmECyfufFVV/6EMdJdLjb+Z0HWsQzQ9Vn e7z4TyRlpkTxVITkfQDIeu9iL8Z1grAwYiZFRjhw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b13945432fac477e7 Cc: lynnellynserra@att.net, kdplep@gmail.com, billsshop@hotmail.com, gordonwaddle@att.net, rcflyrj@gmail.com, kamoracing@cox.net, leserra@msn.com Subject: [Fot] Sad news for the TRIUMPH community... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici... A few hours ago BOB WISMER passed away after a valiant fight with lung cancer. He was told to get his affairs in order and given about eight months to live shortly after the 2013 HAWK event at Road America (his last racing event). Well, he fought hard and lived for fourteen months, but the recent months have been far from quality time. We were racing partners for over thirty years. I am glad that he is no longer suffering...but I sure will miss him. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 16:13:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C9F2584565 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 16:13:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36662580457 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 16:13:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0CE42C013C for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 16:16:55 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 16:16:54 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: FOT References: <8400e.28a400c4.416454c4@aol.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Sad news for the TRIUMPH community... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net So sorry to hear this sad news. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 17:10:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229522584D21 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 17:10:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8EE9258460D for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 17:10:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA032C013C for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 17:13:16 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:13:15 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Sad news Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Maybe not everyone saw this message earlier today: http://www.team.net/mharc/archives/html/fot/2014-10/msg00027.html _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 17:16:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 318DF2584D04 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 17:16:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f172.google.com (mail-vc0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EAA92584736 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 17:16:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id lf12so3910259vcb.31 for ; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 16:19:21 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=PnyzIY99ck4AJqbpKMEIBNj7WZdCWCXNAH2ZsaQYHHw=; b=K3C0h6IwnTXGI2C9cS8Kan0KEBSrfgX/Iosihf02WPvUO8/P9fdkFYT4GRUID4i1IR QI5+rYaXW2m+lS2zyIvmMcqk1QYAc14gC108TrV/qI3wGahyBFkCSLdIXruCfIpuvITU rJH7gIhveApU2agt3rV0bw9e0i7y+cXBEw+acJnLkqXqbXlQB6CfRdWib69UUSu8mXU4 ay/BuzzhO1IEEEVh5k1sdEVsZpSZhWVel3Ci7bOqHX+1khPGSVJUT8En281vFuTCBJVb 0gbqKQKeiwUjqQra38BXo3IhZSHnIbaGyWm0AZ5KkO4LRMhdslBtwUvw5KcUagBJLdW8 686A== tj4mr3197402vcb.46.1412637561289; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 16:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.100.2] (107.sub-70-192-2.myvzw.com. [70.192.2.107]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id k10sm3486315vdb.23.2014.10.06.16.19.20 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 06 Oct 2014 16:19:20 -0700 (PDT) References: <5433220B.7030207@bradakis.com> From: Bob Bownes -Seiri Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 19:19:18 -0400 To: Mark J Bradakis Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Sad news Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sad news indeed. > On Oct 6, 2014, at 19:13, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > > Maybe not everyone saw this message earlier today: > > > http://www.team.net/mharc/archives/html/fot/2014-10/msg00027.html > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 17:30:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C06C52584874 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 17:30:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.henryfrye.com (wsip-98-174-80-203.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84CEC258460D for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 17:30:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from HENRYWIN7 ([98.174.80.202]) (authenticated user yellow04@tr4racer.com) by mail.henryfrye.com (Kerio Connect 8.3.2) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256 bits)); Mon, 6 Oct 2014 19:28:06 -0400 From: "yellow04" To: References: <8400e.28a400c4.416454c4@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 19:33:40 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac/hr+oXVuSjYefuQLCqnrLpxzcw5QADITjg Content-Language: en-us Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Sad news for the TRIUMPH community... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm going to miss him as well. A gentleman of our sport. One of many, but one I'm happy to be able to call him my friend. Rest in peace, Bob. -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BillDentin@aol.com Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 4:26 PM To: fot@autox.team.net; Bakerharolda@aol.com Cc: lynnellynserra@att.net; kdplep@gmail.com; billsshop@hotmail.com; gordonwaddle@att.net; rcflyrj@gmail.com; kamoracing@cox.net; leserra@msn.com Subject: [Fot] Sad news for the TRIUMPH community... Amici... A few hours ago BOB WISMER passed away after a valiant fight with lung cancer. He was told to get his affairs in order and given about eight months to live shortly after the 2013 HAWK event at Road America (his last racing event). Well, he fought hard and lived for fourteen months, but the recent months have been far from quality time. We were racing partners for over thirty years. I am glad that he is no longer suffering...but I sure will miss him. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow04@tr4racer.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 18:25:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5F02584891 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 18:25:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm2-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm2-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.158]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9ED22584846 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 18:22:56 -0600 (MDT) s=s2048; t=1412641563; bh=WltubApU7rUrThLokQjzt52fNe92x0V8uiZfOVjfuGk=; b=L4guikgqPGyWyZgVqui4/AgOf3Bz9Iujv/uLUmZyHKIJQRGSNatDfbzp4Cam9cu7dAlEfCkU5N5wrV/ESlDEkxa7jrLUuzwIjjOZM5zEFqHKnYdK4zcTbDj3Tu+LrzPZWhGwlKkLCX1OmgguRl26qRWQM/DB8plaSs48AuATSm+rxPOFgXQp7rVQvpT8gRl4lZdVxPIkLkSwQFaVEj6tjQDFRlRyjbIlv0xsnTNi8hGtWK/vsEN0n9S2f97cZs3nUPjgS06XQ/CKQuDjVr9ByS5GWoew6Ge6xkGERxYXCH/E4LLY6khbXL7dEGhgOyIKH9zLAggiDP+wgEH13+kx0Q== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=eD7IPvzr/jToq2mqSkWAdqSHHoSdjuD3HlniiXAUXRe5nY5+A0n+G3TUmHV3qQrGYcV2xZMpxRgtHzMjlPmNbGkPzYIyE2Hn+JeOD6bREWohOxrBje57QzKaXfTc1bHzuPWnpc78eLqdxFMlTKdwm8DJiUJQYJT4TQO2P6dujwFksvOtHvqsDh0yScVsL/dkkLzpIGFTmaO1Qr+xoa3NDpar9Gs/QmFQIT+M1/lo+Wx8Kxr8Y4iG3a7zm3BsHrOW20XJdgYGrFrCkoWO+3fixKGtMFTLdQ1tRIS+zxwR74eRzojmtL32SkC99rMCu1+m/wV+oAUef5U6PLpmRWfF4g==; Received: from [98.139.212.149] by nm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Oct 2014 00:26:03 -0000 Received: from [98.139.213.11] by tm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Oct 2014 00:26:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp111.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Oct 2014 00:26:03 -0000 s=s1024; t=1412641563; bh=WltubApU7rUrThLokQjzt52fNe92x0V8uiZfOVjfuGk=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=GscOuE+fUU1iEhjrhnAY2GaGhwrVtcU12rE7faOXODj9IEWJvhC5uJlQh7uTBgyaXzlrFKIkQesY3pPp7C7GLEXY8ORNb0c0gNqX8LVNxCQuXpftmv/xrFnbs/sb0gQmVVCypl6nIleN8u1Jx58skMHZ+zTXtTA0n7BSpYwqxkE= 2AOg5yVNnU3gCgInxEuDzgoI9gsp_KcmAlRXcVEzIs4g28lYimyxRCC90S32 kicg4.Ojuu7hH4DH0.k_VhEOt4ovO3W1Mn_GZNr2EA1P74fCw_aLMj_j8d6G mEB6NM6VW6.a4oHrdvtrfTJzkMk61u9.xSwK6HJHPrVSb73y64jLfYaewFYi j96G_mHVD_vfoXsOJwXdWAPCKCcogKk8U86IGPRFmWaOcy.F4kNJwIgm.GwD iUCg.17nlm.avSqe.O2lyY6vWtjzbaILBRGJdjzPtzKGWL64f5ysTpbzLkFM M2hNt_3i5V4ZPXwQohhPQhzyXFLiz_ncRDpMf7A6Nexe55KVIQlzwDmY2F_v uoz.rjiZ3biI1FMAR38WuEzJAObH1mzfVmdyAjdAAJJiMoJuzUTCgzPPwWn1 R7APoIhCdF4qy73Llv.T28B2Q25TD3mdyTirLSB4zGfMsEvHypdgTH4GbiIc cSacCc7cDfXJQjprJxThdn6kqqi2JVl7radN6xobn_uQE02q7oIcmctqopcI sG0RkYDsiGq8Le.QGj0h9I0v5KNhgjDuxPIHx6KU- References: <8400e.28a400c4.416454c4@aol.com> <543314D6.7090902@bradakis.com> From: Mike Munson Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 19:26:01 -0500 To: Mark J Bradakis Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Sad news for the TRIUMPH community... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net What did I miss? Mike Munson #28 EP TR6 > On Oct 6, 2014, at 5:16 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > > So sorry to hear this sad news. > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 18:26:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC482584D8D for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 18:26:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f171.google.com (mail-ob0-f171.google.com [209.85.214.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12622584846 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 18:23:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f171.google.com with SMTP id va2so4895030obc.16 for ; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:26:27 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=urbu7c3+Y7htz0PONFBMVFwCPJdzCxYKf/pvI4v4WkI=; b=N76ghPR4TeLIVKaQPG3uaZhmHjuYbRgJG82v+2LW9862LsxlSAq1e+1ILRvoLFBWvV 6etbNAopeh1tUD9l/R6AWx4Cnv9u8YEwCgHtU1BNV17q+h2pOY0Dp0t6bkIIzO+v2n+S ofQOXqoYz+cxISJAvse1jFhWh34xu0x6KzKniA2JzwPLtI+nzOf3srq88EC3dFRyXHlK xOwMQY71xwxOomSVOZ7wZqmcglVJaCcbGq/s9HA0tOCLtcE9GnPcGxipLIwxiR0BN9Q6 LBfL7nYafDmLJx1apuvJPYXXEGXPUOpUnt3HNjNj/fiqOuPoriJoUOEFufJ29QJ88rMu g0CQ== jw5mr225786obb.30.1412641587004; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:26:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.107.206 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 17:26:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "Enquiries Road & Track" Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 10:26:06 +1000 To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] re difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net apart from the TR250 head with its unique port location, there are lots of other changes to the 2500 head over the years (it was sued in more than jsut TR6). i have a table listing all the valve sizes, casting numbers etc if you are interested i was not aware the TR250 head was used on TR6, but hope someone can confirm/refure this with some high degree of confidence Terry _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 18:55:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A422584F25 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 18:55:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m04.mx.aol.com (omr-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3F625806FE for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 18:49:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-aag01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-aag01.mx.aol.com [172.26.126.77]) by omr-m04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1E3FB700000A2; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 20:52:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (68-112-150-238.dhcp.stcd.mn.charter.com [68.112.150.238]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-aag01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id C38EA3800009D; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 20:52:38 -0400 (EDT) References: <5433220B.7030207@bradakis.com> <71EC0384-1352-4312-B11F-3CE048D94AAA@seiri.com> From: Jhouathome Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 19:52:37 -0500 To: Bob Bownes -Seiri x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1412643159; bh=ACYZF/ErboIkSGEZYvHtWmlM1ZdjRCgco3Zbl7dJaeA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=nQEe98Nz31v5fWBQGTK9glPomFZSRajOKcQ4VuY52ITbfmZcilLBu7KZ/ZpD+9215 c76/QORXczstf/cO1HCidzQL+ISZ4X+abwQcd8XGtn6TwmdbjV3QdLr/4035T6jUfM tNjKTeohPBKlgpVhOhIh3ZlJ1Mx0ZUulsjd5SjkU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a7e4d54333956181f Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Sad news Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Even though we knew it was coming it is still a shock. Bob was one of the good guys, and he will be sorely missed. It has been both a pleasure and an honor to have known him, raced with him, and called him a friend. He was truly one of the highest quality people any of us could have had the pleasure to have in our lives. Godspeed Bob. Until we meet again..... Sent from my iPad > On Oct 6, 2014, at 6:19 PM, Bob Bownes -Seiri wrote: > > Sad news indeed. > > > >> On Oct 6, 2014, at 19:13, Mark J Bradakis wrote: >> >> Maybe not everyone saw this message earlier today: >> >> >> http://www.team.net/mharc/archives/html/fot/2014-10/msg00027.html >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes@web9.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhouathome@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 19:00:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F4A2584F67 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 19:00:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F56B2584EEB for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 19:00:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195362C013C for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 19:03:24 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 19:03:24 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Off topic, head gasket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Seems there are still issues with mail not getting reliably delivered, as some never saw the original post about the passing of Bob Wismer. If you didn't get it let me know and I'll give you a nice discount on annual dues ;-) Maybe I need to add an "undonate' link at the bottom of messages. Anyway, there are a few folks here who know a thing or two about head gaskets. What do you think of this? http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=176 mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 19:10:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC7FE2584F7C for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 19:10:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE7F2584BD3 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 19:05:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-11v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.235]) by resqmta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 018t1p00654zqzk0118uSP; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 01:08:54 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.9] ([24.4.249.195]) by resomta-po-11v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 018r1p00E4Dhf3s0118sBm; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 01:08:54 +0000 References: <54333BDC.3090209@bradakis.com> From: Dave Hogye Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 18:08:50 -0700 To: Mark J Bradakis s=q20140121; t=1412644134; bh=qsR0kl6N9xrUF9NO7bFIW7Lj6AlZageNq1nGldN/STs=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=h5yisJVULWQe2UBjCtpuUC7FktVLK6AGq8EDOID8cMMDhnwT1XVBTitDhxshcZBDw xD6Xk1EU7YT1lCwAIfXUfX3BXga9r8PBwfh8dQobxx3P64CqOTPsd28VkLJ6t+Ew9t NHLKKvlhm64mPcxvuiDDp37o3HcDOtZW/J02lR1l185c87xwMKNO8EqlGPrKnOrs85 qLEvTHLcsqBPVNorFVeTcANpo88pw7vVmOCeBQH8QjLTIggKgmRbGSp0Bqgv2WrnSK 8QmatPLeMRYVBpqyv5IFYX4o5gEjIwj9NPtWCtCypq32tyQ7/YQMWQfWYD4QJeJSlm T32mOmSAbyQjw== Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Off topic, head gasket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mark, I didn't receive the original message. Dave H. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 6, 2014, at 6:03 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > > Seems there are still issues with mail not getting reliably delivered, as some never saw the original > post about the passing of Bob Wismer. If you didn't get it let me know and I'll give you a nice > discount on annual dues ;-) Maybe I need to add an "undonate' link at the bottom of messages. > > Anyway, there are a few folks here who know a thing or two about head gaskets. What do you think of this? > http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=176 > > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 20:11:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EDB9258501D for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 20:11:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm1-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm1-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.161]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536632584E08 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 20:03:50 -0600 (MDT) s=s1024; t=1412647615; bh=j7e01aZkkNPUydbbBWBgdoEe7IRFSIUnIxFx6Hn63ZY=; b=nN2Wd4kag0j2f1Nxf/3ddGc3F3kfoY5nMmD0FQzn4IID1ek9TuZy84DLX1hWujCGWAzKcUBaO560zVeCdk1YP/EJOUoTPqjUs7bljxeisjy+YTR8KhLQRb3uLUSkUy3/rpjRo0o88t/Viefl8IGX+EnA43EhdTG7msRwnVi3s8s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; b=auIGVUlRJ6LLiclUcdXbVpDSddVFx/2p3p7ybIQkLUb0AZ2t5EDqRWPbeyJ1VCF0dZlUzhGZLzMvCk4EdMy66hyvw1zzFrwgg5KjARp0k/69ybmPoOyTpStTmtI/h9j/W9nT3ocVh3GrjgrRr5TSS5p5rTfg1m13E5HtFpk8EuQ=; Received: from [98.138.100.114] by nm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Oct 2014 02:06:55 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.112] by tm105.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Oct 2014 02:06:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp221.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Oct 2014 02:06:55 -0000 s=s1024; t=1412647615; bh=j7e01aZkkNPUydbbBWBgdoEe7IRFSIUnIxFx6Hn63ZY=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=3eq6Pv/klyeVmNy+JtEgpHS0wQ6TzRpF1Tp8pQb3o74GOAORbsjw3n5TnmXd3yORpD5kKX+kOXGL6iafqRMZGCl6EULpTj8yjo7pzmtDR9H0RClom3EebyJbAOFFuWfmZycahn3poTxnyaiQJVmpx7gZtj5XfDjwGcL8qrgF9d8= PNWYTHFcWHgUWWP_8vhEVA4hXTcc13bsartfXXEBMtbl_qfURg6IPdjTbZ6y Kd9E3gwi_n6PKe.vzWKe.z9nQPD4cK11z6IaWER5d6U4C6BaaM30cTeFUSIh U.ZHxnX6Zg..5T3DcHFDq3eAv3Ut3fWJpxrdSsHpcr6k9DsA2xX8kqpq8RDm wKw2.ZYN6NQJm8591U3rBp.b0turuZ0Z4zorhEpP8du9nLnnCGcs8bVUv6ZG 3yyS_l33C34RJlAXElcrP.0QK6L_ctcsZN5HjcrevcGXyCTqVjglZ1d59F0c 8CUQ0zuYrr2CUN5RTN_dv0ST_a3fQR1HHtUTqT5QH8n2v1p1oSS4Kbp0zn0G .b3OxdMMZYv2kuVpZeoETUZd6d2KeK2YCZrxOYv8uk9rG_F8pz6KEI_J2bYl Uj_cIBlHBvSo4yoVUltuCKVX3SF3JPHpiNTxjIXtO7B6rM8xsi6cv2zl6RVN Mgv5N0LJJK2pcD1eGxZb144R3.DBzWBgedoHtOZgpRzznF0byV9jR1so765S KIOZthZVnQlg_4F1FZDBIdGecLF1DMQaTLfl7TLL2c.neNLiP References: <8400e.28a400c4.416454c4@aol.com> <000c01cfe1bd$f63a2cf0$e2ae86d0$@com> From: Paul Ricco Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 21:06:54 -0500 To: yellow04 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Sad news for the TRIUMPH community... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We are also very sad to hear this news. We only got to know Bob recently while working through the process of purchasing his TR4. Bob was a gentlemen through the entire process and we will miss hearing from him. His family and friends are in our thoughts and prayers. Paul and Emily Ricco Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 6, 2014, at 6:33 PM, "yellow04" wrote: > > I'm going to miss him as well. A gentleman of our sport. One of many, but > one I'm happy to be able to call him my friend. > > Rest in peace, Bob. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > BillDentin@aol.com > Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 4:26 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net; Bakerharolda@aol.com > Cc: lynnellynserra@att.net; kdplep@gmail.com; billsshop@hotmail.com; > gordonwaddle@att.net; rcflyrj@gmail.com; kamoracing@cox.net; leserra@msn.com > Subject: [Fot] Sad news for the TRIUMPH community... > > Amici... > > A few hours ago BOB WISMER passed away after a valiant fight with lung > cancer. He was told to get his affairs in order and given about eight > months to live shortly after the 2013 HAWK event at Road America (his last > racing event). Well, he fought hard and lived for fourteen months, but the > recent months have been far from quality time. We were racing partners for > over thirty years. I am glad that he is no longer suffering...but I sure > will miss him. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow04@tr4racer.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 20:56:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E884B2585091 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 20:56:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-02v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-02v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.34]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22FDA2585001 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 20:49:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-10v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.106]) by resqmta-ch2-02v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 02rs1p0082JGN3p012s7WN; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 02:52:07 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-503v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.178.3]) by resomta-ch2-10v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 02s61p00904nC6y012s67j; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 02:52:07 +0000 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 02:52:06 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: mark@bradakis.com References: <5433220B.7030207@bradakis.com> Thread-Topic: Sad news Thread-Index: dDY6E4a5E2Z9x2Hus9MAXU94X6pu/Q== s=q20140121; t=1412650327; bh=uKOZOI8R+65FpyizEGzi82DE4OjuEcyDs6vpSLB8GuQ=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=RyZW1dTMfIE8aXnxtHuh064hN/5SffVU1R8v0/L8mz3AegL7FYYqcCDo+lb+t2DgA x6cud2D8q73//vUlvmU1doYnFtq7qNSSAv/rsDMys9xRFg7CRFI7+tKOa0M8n3wtIj 4ti9tqW+yQSVyday1Z69MOqSdI0nI3ecf0VVpFBvWBoApDiK7ehlJuseNY+ib1ffRF mrPLzvVs8C2WbsO9d7bVOSo+mziaJHzU5ovGoBwQJfxHgVyabOQdBXmjFZSAL3qyMV 20zApJWtCu5TnwAcAmTzZV0Rr5gaJZG4MzZgA8XCrFwmpbPfJEuQoCwrYsCy+mMj4p vpETw7f6cEoGA== Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Sad news Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I was not fortunate enough to have met Bob, but I sure know he was a valued member of our Triumph community. Rest in peace Bob Wismer. ----- Original Message ----- From: mark@bradakis.com To: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 4:13:15 PM Subject: [Fot] Sad news Maybe not everyone saw this message earlier today: http://www.team.net/mharc/archives/html/fot/2014-10/msg00027.html _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 21:28:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 191712585091 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 21:28:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B739A258507C for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 21:28:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-10v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.106]) by resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 03WQ1p0032JGN3p013XbF9; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 03:31:35 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-503v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.178.3]) by resomta-ch2-10v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 03Xb1p00304nC6y013XbUw; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 03:31:35 +0000 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 03:31:35 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Friends of Triumph Thread-Topic: Triumph representation in Victory Lane Thread-Index: V1OZ/1Qm3HjxAOuAhNgcFR2DTc1JIw== s=q20140121; t=1412652695; bh=ttcquQss338+5lM2KUCBfCg3fJFxw8QzXYKWsEzXjMM=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=vEnQc6pU3VbREa1cdBKkyztuJX31UBIzawkaDGiBDesDozBvl/hvEEvjhfyu3Xg9E 1D1z9jGJqvcu7Om9UTBwByx3Iy1Z6vny2FCboGxZ5wmU/SLcNVyZBrrS59Rrp+cTCa uyzEESkO1C+PyZ8Gqo3DCHJHtiFFUrJQK/8eWc7VGGSx0JPo8oMASYQm5GZw8s106H J0IA9nBqfEojBUaQ6YTm3VGJcOED6JC4RlDmjMkIcCIftFWgmlg6Fhy263/rWv0BI1 GtS91PSkrn2Hs2/u7VEcDq5qRxxrTRAffc6+F1FPUfZsUH3JzMclU5fn7IwcGFQa37 ZeQm4JiZbkNhg== Subject: [Fot] Triumph representation in Victory Lane Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net George Wright, TR4 at Atlanta. Charly Mitchel, TR6 in BC, Canada. Very nice shot Charly. Jason Ostrowski, GT6, Sean Alexander and Mike Moore, TR4s at Gratten. ?, Red Spitfire at Pittsburgh. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 21:31:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9392C258512F for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 21:31:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy8-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy8-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.33.93]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F45D2585097 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 21:31:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 25938 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2014 03:34:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw3) (10.0.90.84) by gproxy8.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 7 Oct 2014 03:34:26 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw3 with id 09aL1p0021NzpT9019aPkC; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 03:34:25 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=yKqyAkVeGwwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=IKfGG-pgVkL-brZfZ_sA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=wbTX4JQhrvUA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=QHqqnK016tYA:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=60062 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XbLXY-0006iD-QA; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:34:20 -0600 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 22:34:15 -0500 To: Mark J Bradakis From: Tony Drews References: <54333BDC.3090209@bradakis.com> {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Off topic, head gasket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The gasket sure doesn't match the cylinders. I wonder what the combustion chambers in the head head looks like. If they are larger than the cylinders, the fire rings could be right - otherwise you've got a big gap to store your carbon in... Tony Drews At 08:03 PM 10/6/2014, you wrote: >Seems there are still issues with mail not getting reliably >delivered, as some never saw the original >post about the passing of Bob Wismer. If you didn't get it let me >know and I'll give you a nice >discount on annual dues ;-) Maybe I need to add an "undonate' link >at the bottom of messages. > >Anyway, there are a few folks here who know a thing or two about >head gaskets. What do you think of this? > >http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=176 > > >mjb. >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 21:57:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4057725851A8 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 21:57:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E8225850C9 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 21:56:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.234]) by resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 03zc1p00553iAfU013zjmf; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 03:59:43 +0000 Received: from [10.196.228.23] ([166.171.251.45]) by resomta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 03zG1p0080zXcjJ013zMz2; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 03:59:38 +0000 References: From: Jeff Durant Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 20:59:21 -0700 To: Enquiries Road & Track s=q20140121; t=1412654383; bh=w/EGd4es4c5EqeO6qwKet8LcuA1aQ4ezY3DayX4srNU=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=mTi53ITgGH3R2xYqveP9FpwagVfoEEruFDmmza7y6B5FqNpqQHFOApvzTjEKqK9yJ kCKM5spT/8lGpT12pXqUevKleDPJxpG5haJ3E7dJMDjn++bWBnMLit0eo7vCe+VbqT dJ68UGSq5mZTQ2ifdWmlI9Pv1wKiLkuMadIHyPEKEOOllL2sezOFngpagG3FIMuZqM fq7PU8e6ek0VulEaC3mfKoUj0Z9o71QEWtTa+ALyBvS58Vu2vXCtMbWA46RlRhU9VQ 8HdElRZvR+bTXy/DZ65+XiWqBvaWrwFVtYSr860x9lgjr2h1R/NdNNqKcJNe3qqfsZ OVUIf/xPvnwBg== Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] re difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net To my knowledge, the "narrow" intake port heads came on TR250's and early, '69 to mid-'71 TR6's, with twin Strombergs. Both my TR250 and '69 TR6 sport this head as does my brother's '70 TR6. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 6, 2014, at 5:26 PM, "Enquiries Road & Track" wrote: > apart from the TR250 head with its unique port location, there are lots of > other changes to the 2500 head over the years (it was sued in more than > jsut TR6). i have a table listing all the valve sizes, casting numbers etc > if you are interested > > i was not aware the TR250 head was used on TR6, but hope someone can > confirm/refure this with some high degree of confidence > > Terry > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeff_durant@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 21:57:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A6C258519E for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 21:57:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.161]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692D82585117 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 21:57:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.234]) by resqmta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 040g1p00253iAfU0140gKY; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 04:00:40 +0000 Received: from [10.196.228.23] ([166.171.251.45]) by resomta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 03zG1p0080zXcjJ0140K3x; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 04:00:35 +0000 References: <9C7BA06E-1C15-40F0-B7D2-2F4F1466348E@comcast.net> From: Jeff Durant Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 21:00:24 -0700 To: Enquiries Road & Track s=q20140121; t=1412654440; bh=z0wE1rJtEJMdN9dIetkDeWT0covdV5YnN+Mu1nBnXsE=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=MJVxK5XmzObgunkfL3GiYFwY23pq4eDYLkK7D+mBKio++qGQxmtGjk50CecCEG404 fMrtrIqbLriZcnQV3nbIXHrBrwWlDvmqs76rMTktX9w1v4q8wZi7tizKJvUMnER726 OSWGAsMitoUlsZag2VkVJls2N6zyjFiLolkAbSibXH1IUOujLVIsgxJu9Gz2vjkZ0Q ijeTVQde0f7RFRggkYfSCm3gwAEeV50CogC83cagmhkbN49zM8pD23gdd8Ln0Cu0TC C6w3T28KXf/y/KrlGB7MmQOQEvTg6pucLP6tXyEaHlSXAQuUQEn9R5hTJj1nvdwRxx NkxjJjn76sq/w== Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] re difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry hit the send button too soon Sent from my iPhone On Oct 6, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Jeff Durant wrote: > To my knowledge, the "narrow" intake port heads came on TR250's and early, '69 to mid-'71 TR6's, with twin Strombergs. Both my TR250 and '69 TR6 sport this head as does my brother's '70 TR6. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 6, 2014, at 5:26 PM, "Enquiries Road & Track" wrote: > >> apart from the TR250 head with its unique port location, there are lots of >> other changes to the 2500 head over the years (it was sued in more than >> jsut TR6). i have a table listing all the valve sizes, casting numbers etc >> if you are interested >> >> i was not aware the TR250 head was used on TR6, but hope someone can >> confirm/refure this with some high degree of confidence >> >> Terry >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeff_durant@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 22:32:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1A525851FE for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 22:32:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f172.google.com (mail-lb0-f172.google.com [209.85.217.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6DC22580697 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 22:32:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f172.google.com with SMTP id b6so5541443lbj.3 for ; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:35:53 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=xdcPqaxTbdkm8f/a8xEzSLf78AK1B5Hv4wkGXOYCWJQ=; b=aVltQmnecSuGUlmh1TQmPtc0IDtB3xv1Gi82cpzxCP3SFgvjccYz47qcg546h4bsGo eNV1zaWG1P+vu/uoTpMTkmhul+S0f9P0XLLxFtNw8KBOlofXebG+C4ECUl+y2P1gVL9E UktlJF2sgoPbxoBaGlqLAyCcd76gJQdbydxVem+T6/ee4dAq23LNbz6iB/UUtRaTLxEK rmM4zq/4OrJb2nhguuoChLGhInhwo640Ip9hIAUb7KC4uVV4QzfpdTnxAFh69Bx6SdQq tgN310QCnBYiE8o9r7nusFhAQ0xqzB0F3odDWeh6TsoJ8P2YOyr7h6v69NLlf04DjDM8 q/wA== c7mr1131702lah.27.1412656553503; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:35:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.20.72 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 21:35:13 -0700 (PDT) References: <9C7BA06E-1C15-40F0-B7D2-2F4F1466348E@comcast.net> <445882C1-4644-403D-817E-837A51609685@comcast.net> From: Kas Kastner Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 21:35:13 -0700 To: Jeff Durant Cc: Enquiries Road & Track , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] re difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The TR-250 is the only one that had the narrow inlet ports. If you have a TR-6 with that head it was someone else who replaced it with the wrong head. *Never be beaten by equipment.* On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Jeff Durant wrote: > Sorry hit the send button too soon > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 6, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Jeff Durant wrote: > > > To my knowledge, the "narrow" intake port heads came on TR250's and > early, > '69 to mid-'71 TR6's, with twin Strombergs. Both my TR250 and '69 TR6 > sport > this head as does my brother's '70 TR6. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Oct 6, 2014, at 5:26 PM, "Enquiries Road & Track" > wrote: > > > >> apart from the TR250 head with its unique port location, there are lots > of > >> other changes to the 2500 head over the years (it was sued in more than > >> jsut TR6). i have a table listing all the valve sizes, casting numbers > etc > >> if you are interested > >> > >> i was not aware the TR250 head was used on TR6, but hope someone can > >> confirm/refure this with some high degree of confidence > >> > >> Terry > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeff_durant@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 6 23:27:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0650C25850BE for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 23:27:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-02v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-02v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.34]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40DC925804F1 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 23:26:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-18v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.114]) by resqmta-ch2-02v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 05VV1p0082Udklx015VYGs; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 05:29:32 +0000 Received: from [10.196.228.23] ([166.171.251.45]) by resomta-ch2-18v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 05V01p0050zXcjJ015V5dX; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 05:29:27 +0000 References: <9C7BA06E-1C15-40F0-B7D2-2F4F1466348E@comcast.net> <445882C1-4644-403D-817E-837A51609685@comcast.net> From: Jeff Durant Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 22:29:05 -0700 To: Kas Kastner s=q20140121; t=1412659772; bh=ZWha6TsTtQFjRyyNXM0rUkbPvSsn4sjIEdDeTFj/uoo=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=J/qIuL6YnvSTlyQvE0sivap2EZ3rYKIIxoQ3gl9dEisprLVbCtOudFOtJuEAMli2u p0o2pL2i2JFPYzkmWWBXtfgYrnhGMDZaGfSbWWrCyCp7IRIcD2rj01Dt7tmDF7jEP/ ACtTpWrrji2wzmiEx/eTz70QsQpuEbKMcqSlKhqwaTx7fCaGbjuqe0B4dTO4yzWxe9 GdwKGzw6GEnIp5woLgGz+0JhYcNToj5NoCr0x2t62+SxhUvtYqU8tsxRzXmWPucBYG E4SExn0xJo94XzGUNHIgjaveckvqjea2xIScQZN7ymy1Jnk0GG3UmrPH925bWVGy0S V8c7GoqwqsM1Q== Cc: Enquiries Road & Track , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] re difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Kas, Not to question the master but the TR250 factory parts manual lists the Head, 8.6 to 1, as p/n 516796 w/valves and springs as does '69 TR6 parts manual (non-PI) up to engine #CC75000. The TR5 and '69 TR6 PI Head from the factory part books show p/n, 516798 w/valves and springs. Maybe a mistake in the books? Both my brother's '69 TR6 and my '69 TR6 run the same intake manifold as my TR250, p/n 308088. All 3 cars have the narrow intake port spacing unlike the later heads I run on Paul Vollmer's old blue TR6 racer, #12. I recall going to fit a PI set-up (I bought from you while at your shop after picking up the racer from Mueller and Vollmer) and the PI intakes wouldn't line up with the intake ports on my then, never been apart, street TR6. Still have all the new PI bits I purchased from you around the time you were prepping a Merker. Maybe for old blue. What am I missing? Regards, Jeff Durant '68 TR250 '69 TR6 '69 TR6 blue #12 Sent from my iPhone On Oct 6, 2014, at 9:35 PM, Kas Kastner wrote: > The TR-250 is the only one that had the narrow inlet ports. If you have a TR-6 with that head it was someone else who replaced it with the wrong head. > > Never be beaten by equipment. > > > On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Jeff Durant wrote: >> Sorry hit the send button too soon >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Oct 6, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Jeff Durant wrote: >> >> > To my knowledge, the "narrow" intake port heads came on TR250's and early, >> '69 to mid-'71 TR6's, with twin Strombergs. Both my TR250 and '69 TR6 sport >> this head as does my brother's '70 TR6. >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > On Oct 6, 2014, at 5:26 PM, "Enquiries Road & Track" >> wrote: >> > >> >> apart from the TR250 head with its unique port location, there are lots of >> >> other changes to the 2500 head over the years (it was sued in more than >> >> jsut TR6). i have a table listing all the valve sizes, casting numbers etc >> >> if you are interested >> >> >> >> i was not aware the TR250 head was used on TR6, but hope someone can >> >> confirm/refure this with some high degree of confidence >> >> >> >> Terry >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeff_durant@comcast.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 00:43:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247572580697 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 00:43:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f178.google.com (mail-ob0-f178.google.com [209.85.214.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2A72580697 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 00:41:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f178.google.com with SMTP id wn1so5173278obc.9 for ; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 23:44:44 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-type; bh=gboaBy5Er0iRhGaBG0iY4O1TUuSjozSAHQrDmotREzw=; b=dXWoA3oFQz1/wZTt8tPBYoXlQMoLe6/vJxXIKguG+Ccno7ZdaMOdycxRyQuG6iFyop 31yC6yCha6lwGFnbT4jSuaxza/dXs1OPJZtZHzLg0Ug3RfFmnXCauN7Th6F3WAdDNgfq pKVNOH3JVMULY2CfMYelA8CtxJFE3Ierzz0DHjin6vUxog+fw866qZlRkhhaJr6sRJxe XZ4CPH0eb7iFX7MUE8e49nhnOiCKDnxb3yUurjNyMoF1gJtT8wpLt24lpRMdQNPZw5Fr Srf6HRkiarq195AgYtwJdEsDCxBPQbFrqg67CCjWgvs1MF3TPkZblftEkK/KKGhJSlRN HFag== du10mr1646763obb.9.1412664284070; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 23:44:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.107.206 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 23:44:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Enquiries Road & Track" Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 16:44:24 +1000 To: Jeff Durant Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net i know 100% all the TR6 PI/2500TC heads used the same inlet manifold layout/gasket, which is totally different spacing to the TR250 heads. As i'm not USA based, i have no confidence in any claims about how long Triumph continued the TR250 head set-up for, but my recollections from the days when they were new, was it was not very long. maybe as some suggest, the first few TR6's that went to USA, used this also Terry _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 05:30:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4640D2584FFB for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 05:30:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (isis.mit.edu [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F1422584DF1 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 05:22:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s97BPtGm028396; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 07:25:55 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 07:25:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Charly Mitchel References: <5B15BC606DA04D07839D7EF26E490078@Charly> <1412625340.69954.YahooMailNeo@web121403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On Mon, 6 Oct 2014, Charly Mitchel wrote: > TR6 changed about 1972, I believe. Correct. The "Federal Spec" TR6 got the narrow port head from CC25000 up to CC75000. After that, "Federal Spec" TR6's got the (better) "wide port" PI head. TR6's comm. numbers for the 72 model year starts at CC/CP 75000. Regards, rml > > Good Day, Could someone refresh me on the centers of the ports on the > > early > > style cylinder head? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Henry Morrison Albuquerque, NM _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 05:30:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FCF8258509A for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 05:30:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (isis.mit.edu [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665BD2584DF1 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 05:29:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s97BWprO028414; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 07:32:51 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 07:32:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Henry Morrison References: <5B15BC606DA04D07839D7EF26E490078@Charly> <1412625340.69954.YahooMailNeo@web121403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>, Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net >From the Goodparts web site: http://goodparts.com/shop/index.php?categoryID=36 scan down to the manifold gasket section. Early has 1.875 spacing (center to center) Late has 2.187 spacing (c to c) c ya, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 05:36:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C5A25850B9 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 05:36:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC66F2584FF0 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 05:36:10 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: dnvrco-oedge02 smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.70.248] ([107.14.70.248:12727] helo=dnvrco-web04) by dnvrco-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 03/79-18752-5E0D3345; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 11:39:17 +0000 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 11:39:17 +0000 From: To: Henry Morrison , "Robert M. Lang" Sensitivity: Normal Oct 2014 11:39:17 +0000 a=wAyFwspFC75BjEd6OtOw1g==:117 a=wAyFwspFC75BjEd6OtOw1g==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=HMiXSj5yAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=CWOp4QXbfkK7KBsndwsA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=noQjv9YW-iYA:10 a=KTDso90Uc2QA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=sZQFufuciV4A:10 Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have a 1972 TR6 CC75059LO, the 59th (or is that 60th) car after the switch to the dual exhaust and long branch intake manifold. I always that the 1972 model (built in 1971 in this case) was the point in time for the cylinder head change. I gues the head may have been around for the PI cars prior to the USA change. Bob Kramer rkramer3@austin.rr.com ---- "Robert M. Lang" wrote: > From the Goodparts web site: > > http://goodparts.com/shop/index.php?categoryID=36 > > scan down to the manifold gasket section. > > Early has 1.875 spacing (center to center) > Late has 2.187 spacing (c to c) > > c ya, > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 05:50:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5E725851CB for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 05:50:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE59A25850A2 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 05:50:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.36.193]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0ND200E2FP0JI760@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 06:53:08 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: , "Henry Morrison" , "Robert M. Lang" References: <20141007113917.STBVY.258185.root@dnvrco-web04> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 07:53:15 -0400 Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This brings up another qustion: what's the difference between a long branch intake as opposed to a not-long branch (short branch?)? Part numbers? Usage? This bunch is a treasure of information! Thanks, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Henry Morrison" ; "Robert M. Lang" Cc: "fot" Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head >I have a 1972 TR6 CC75059LO, the 59th (or is that 60th) car after the >switch to the dual exhaust and long branch intake manifold. I always that >the 1972 model (built in 1971 in this case) was the point in time for the >cylinder head change. I gues the head may have been around for the PI cars >prior to the USA change. > > Bob Kramer > rkramer3@austin.rr.com > > ---- "Robert M. Lang" wrote: >> From the Goodparts web site: >> >> http://goodparts.com/shop/index.php?categoryID=36 >> >> scan down to the manifold gasket section. >> >> Early has 1.875 spacing (center to center) >> Late has 2.187 spacing (c to c) >> >> c ya, >> rml >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent >> Former NER Solo Chair | >> Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 09:48:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24BDA2585260 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:48:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC1S35.hotmail.com (blu004-omc1s35.hotmail.com [65.55.116.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9132A258460F for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:48:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W85 ([65.55.116.9]) by BLU004-OMC1S35.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Tue, 7 Oct 2014 08:51:11 -0700 From: marty To: Dave Hogye , Mark J Bradakis Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 11:51:10 -0400 References: <54333BDC.3090209@bradakis.com>, <6878E8B8-8789-46F6-918C-A49CE615A7EC@comcast.net> FILETIME=[849C2F10:01CFE246] Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] messages not received Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I use hotmail and find it is hit or miss on the messages I receive from all the list. My wife uses gmail and both of us have the same issues with our local British car list. No real rime nor reason on what appears to go through. Isn't the new fangled technology stuff great. :) Marty > From: dlhogye@comcast.net > Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 18:08:50 -0700 > To: mark@bradakis.com > CC: fot@Autox.Team.Net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Off topic, head gasket > > Mark, > I didn't receive the original message. > > Dave H. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 6, 2014, at 6:03 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > > > > Seems there are still issues with mail not getting reliably delivered, as > some never saw the original > > post about the passing of Bob Wismer. If you didn't get it let me know and > I'll give you a nice > > discount on annual dues ;-) Maybe I need to add an "undonate' link at the > bottom of messages. > > > > Anyway, there are a few folks here who know a thing or two about head > gaskets. What do you think of this? > > http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=176 > > > > > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 10:17:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8A925848E6 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 10:17:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-relay-3.cniteam.com (omr-relay-3.cniteam.com [209.143.0.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CFC2258460F for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 10:15:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rg7.cniteam.com (rg7.cniteam.com [209.143.0.247]) by omr-relay-3.cniteam.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s97GICwH052467 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 12:18:12 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([216.201.14.237]) by rg7.cniteam.com (MOS 4.4.5-GA) with ESMTP id BEF55102 (AUTH tedtsimx@bright.net) for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 12:18:11 -0400 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:18:14 -0400 From: Ted Schumacher User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <20141007113917.STBVY.258185.root@dnvrco-web04> <9BA6542B5817410D9C45AE6E1347942A@hpd530> refid=2.7.2:2014.10.7.150019:17:9.975, ip=, rules=__MOZILLA_MSGID, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __FW_1LN_BOT_MSGID, DATE_TZ_NA, __HAS_FROM, __USER_AGENT, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NO_NAME, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __IN_REP_TO, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __TO_IN_SUBJECT, __ANY_URI, URI_ENDS_IN_HTML, __FRAUD_BODY_WEBMAIL, __FRAUD_CONTACT_NUM, ECARD_KNOWN_DOMAINS, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, __C230066_P5, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __FORWARDED_MSG, BODY_SIZE_3000_3999, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_NXDOMAIN, __URI_NS, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, RDNS_SUSP, TO_IN_SUBJECT, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS refid=str=0001.0A020209.54341243.01D7,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2014-06-20 05:37:11, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46, mode=multiengine Subject: Re: [Fot] difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bill, short answer - the longer the run, the lower the power band. Shorter the run, higher the power band. With the engines being "choked" by US emission requirements, going to long runner manifold, in theory, offset some of the power loss. Or, it at least allowed the car to get out of its own way at lower end. Port spacing - early heads had a 5/8" space between intake ports. Late heads had a 7/8" space between intake ports. Ted On 10/7/2014 7:53 AM, Bill Tobin wrote: > This brings up another qustion: what's the difference between a long > branch intake as opposed to a not-long branch (short branch?)? > Part numbers? Usage? > This bunch is a treasure of information! > Thanks, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: "Henry Morrison" ; "Robert M. Lang" > > Cc: "fot" > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 7:39 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head > > >> I have a 1972 TR6 CC75059LO, the 59th (or is that 60th) car after the >> switch to the dual exhaust and long branch intake manifold. I always >> that the 1972 model (built in 1971 in this case) was the point in >> time for the cylinder head change. I gues the head may have been >> around for the PI cars prior to the USA change. >> >> Bob Kramer >> rkramer3@austin.rr.com >> >> ---- "Robert M. Lang" wrote: >>> From the Goodparts web site: >>> >>> http://goodparts.com/shop/index.php?categoryID=36 >>> >>> scan down to the manifold gasket section. >>> >>> Early has 1.875 spacing (center to center) >>> Late has 2.187 spacing (c to c) >>> >>> c ya, >>> rml >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent >>> Former NER Solo Chair | >>> Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tedtsimx@bright.net > > > > -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx@bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 13:49:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573512584F6B for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 13:49:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1372580457 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 16:18:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.90] (ool-43538a8f.dyn.optonline.net [67.83.138.143]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0ND100B13NFBSNU0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 18:21:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 18:21:11 -0400 From: Todd Redmond To: "BillDentin@aol.com" References: <8400e.28a400c4.416454c4@aol.com> Cc: "lynnellynserra@att.net" , "Bakerharolda@aol.com" , "billsshop@hotmail.com" , "gordonwaddle@att.net" , "rcflyrj@gmail.com" , "kdplep@gmail.com" , "kamoracing@cox.net" , "fot@autox.team.net" , "leserra@msn.com" Subject: Re: [Fot] Sad news for the TRIUMPH community... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net God Speed Bob. Thanks Todd Redmond > On Oct 6, 2014, at 4:25 PM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > > Amici... > > A few hours ago BOB WISMER passed away after a valiant fight with lung > cancer. He was told to get his affairs in order and given about eight months to > live shortly after the 2013 HAWK event at Road America (his last racing > event). Well, he fought hard and lived for fourteen months, but the recent > months have been far from quality time. We were racing partners for over > thirty years. I am glad that he is no longer suffering...but I sure will miss > him. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 13:50:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B502584F95 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 13:50:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D8B2580777 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 16:56:09 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=G5CpH4GDXxrvIIda+8O/c98kArXvvZpno8BLF83qm71HRso78enyvSQpur1hYEjF; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Cc:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.42] (helo=elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1XbHFB-0008R0-O3; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 18:59:05 -0400 Received: from 209.179.53.231 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 18:59:05 -0400 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 18:59:05 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Mike Jackson To: BillDentin@aol.com, fot@autox.team.net, Bakerharolda@aol.com Cc: lynnellynserra@att.net, kdplep@gmail.com, billsshop@hotmail.com, gordonwaddle@att.net, rcflyrj@gmail.com, kamoracing@cox.net, leserra@msn.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Sad news for the TRIUMPH community... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sad news. The Florida vintage racing community will miss his annual trek down here every spring for over a decade. His cars have been parked in my back yard every year or occasionally at Glen Efinger's shop if it needed some help to make the next race. It will be a very tough Spring next year without him. Our best wishes for his family, and Bill, who have supported him thru this long struggle. Mike Jackson -----Original Message----- >From: BillDentin@aol.com >Sent: Oct 6, 2014 4:25 PM >To: fot@autox.team.net, Bakerharolda@aol.com >Cc: lynnellynserra@att.net, kdplep@gmail.com, billsshop@hotmail.com, gordonwaddle@att.net, rcflyrj@gmail.com, kamoracing@cox.net, leserra@msn.com >Subject: [Fot] Sad news for the TRIUMPH community... > >Amici... > >A few hours ago BOB WISMER passed away after a valiant fight with lung >cancer. He was told to get his affairs in order and given about eight months to >live shortly after the 2013 HAWK event at Road America (his last racing >event). Well, he fought hard and lived for fourteen months, but the recent >months have been far from quality time. We were racing partners for over >thirty years. I am glad that he is no longer suffering...but I sure will miss >him. > >Bill Dentinger >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/grandwazoo@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 13:50:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99762584F95 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 13:50:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy6-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy6-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.39.168]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 297B3258507C for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 21:26:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 19103 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2014 03:30:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw4) (10.0.90.85) by gproxy6.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 7 Oct 2014 03:30:00 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw4 with id 09Vv1p00P1NzpT9019Vyvs; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 03:29:59 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=yKqyAkVeGwwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=rcHp78ZqgolCbGWlygIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=60037 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XbLTI-0002Ev-CN; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:29:56 -0600 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 22:29:50 -0500 To: BillDentin@aol.com,fot@autox.team.net,Bakerharolda@aol.com From: Tony Drews References: <8400e.28a400c4.416454c4@aol.com> {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Cc: lynnellynserra@att.net, kdplep@gmail.com, billsshop@hotmail.com, gordonwaddle@att.net, rcflyrj@gmail.com, kamoracing@cox.net, leserra@msn.com Subject: Re: [Fot] Sad news for the TRIUMPH community... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I didn't know him 30 years, but he was a good friend and I'll miss him. Tony Drews At 03:25 PM 10/6/2014, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: >Amici... > >A few hours ago BOB WISMER passed away after a valiant fight with lung >cancer. He was told to get his affairs in order and given about >eight months to >live shortly after the 2013 HAWK event at Road America (his last racing >event). Well, he fought hard and lived for fourteen months, but the recent >months have been far from quality time. We were racing partners for over >thirty years. I am glad that he is no longer suffering...but I sure >will miss >him. > >Bill Dentinger >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 13:51:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094CB2584F04 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 13:51:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B036C25807E9 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 07:35:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.99]) by resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 0DeW1p00529Cfhx01DewdP; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 13:38:56 +0000 Received: from [10.196.228.23] ([166.171.251.45]) by resomta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 0DeD1p00C0zXcjJ01DeKdG; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 13:38:51 +0000 References: <20141007113917.STBVY.258185.root@dnvrco-web04> <9BA6542B5817410D9C45AE6E1347942A@hpd530> From: Jeff Durant Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 06:38:19 -0700 To: Bill Tobin s=q20140121; t=1412689136; bh=98KSKlgrjUo/fcvQlNzV71NpmHZWrT+rgXVp0NRegA8=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=CxcmgqSLAcPUOajL96Sr1eeI7BNPR/CzRIlSoLig3xBA7hVIwHMj1eCIRq0Emhzwx xqpt3arbdSDFkjuaNRyXAcLar0F65NmQpRZPgbRTzkzgTSgmXQLw3Jbd3g8XIyR5nX BzH+gYnyCCSyqArkWKf23v5z+KAJ1w4+3cwA/i2ZmVfgv18HQ27wLMpRNJ+CJAjcMX X1S0Z71a51sy5GEtl5L0wsxSoleLsuD9Qz6FKtflJKA88LLFaECFdN5jOALds4gFEN YBOg2X1Zv5dSU/+WpLNg9opjtymkSgHDdYAIaYcAEp2Y3t3WZmqi30jvx+VM3IGH4U +0XP6fszyGPBA== Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bill, The "short" branch intake manifold came with 2 p/n's, 308088 (TR250 and TR6 (up to engine CC50000) and 311378 (TR6 CC50000 up to CC75000). Both have the narrow intake spacing. The "long" branch intake manifold also came with 2 p/n's, 312187 (CC75000 to CF12500) TKC1100 (after CF12500). One version supported the EGR valve heads. The earlier one I believe. Both have the wide intake ports. Hope this helps. Regards, Jeff Durant TR250 '69 TR6 '69 TR6 #12 Sent from my iPhone On Oct 7, 2014, at 4:53 AM, "Bill Tobin" wrote: > This brings up another qustion: what's the difference between a long branch intake as opposed to a not-long branch (short branch?)? > Part numbers? Usage? > This bunch is a treasure of information! > Thanks, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: "Henry Morrison" ; "Robert M. Lang" > Cc: "fot" > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 7:39 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head > > >> I have a 1972 TR6 CC75059LO, the 59th (or is that 60th) car after the switch to the dual exhaust and long branch intake manifold. I always that the 1972 model (built in 1971 in this case) was the point in time for the cylinder head change. I gues the head may have been around for the PI cars prior to the USA change. >> >> Bob Kramer >> rkramer3@austin.rr.com >> >> ---- "Robert M. Lang" wrote: >>> From the Goodparts web site: >>> >>> http://goodparts.com/shop/index.php?categoryID=36 >>> >>> scan down to the manifold gasket section. >>> >>> Early has 1.875 spacing (center to center) >>> Late has 2.187 spacing (c to c) >>> >>> c ya, >>> rml >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent >>> Former NER Solo Chair | >>> Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeff_durant@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 13:52:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F3B2584F63 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 13:52:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC2S33.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s33.hotmail.com [65.55.111.108]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C2925807AC for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 10:49:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU405-EAS352 ([65.55.111.73]) by BLU004-OMC2S33.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:52:41 -0700 From: Greg Petrolati Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:52:40 -0700 References: <8400e.28a400c4.416454c4@aol.com> To: "BillDentin@aol.com" FILETIME=[1BCE1C60:01CFE24F] Cc: "lynnellynserra@att.net" , "Bakerharolda@aol.com" , "billsshop@hotmail.com" , "gordonwaddle@att.net" , "rcflyrj@gmail.com" , "kdplep@gmail.com" , "kamoracing@cox.net" , "fot@autox.team.net" , "leserra@msn.com" Subject: Re: [Fot] Sad news for the TRIUMPH community... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I will never forget the hospitality the two of you showed me at the ELVF all those years ago. Bob was a gentleman in the best definition of the word. My sincerest condolences to Bob's family and to you, Bill. Tonight I will open a bottle of my best wine and drink to his memory. All the best, Greg Petrolati Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2014, at 8:34 AM, BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > > Amici... > > A few hours ago BOB WISMER passed away after a valiant fight with lung > cancer. He was told to get his affairs in order and given about eight months to > live shortly after the 2013 HAWK event at Road America (his last racing > event). Well, he fought hard and lived for fourteen months, but the recent > months have been far from quality time. We were racing partners for over > thirty years. I am glad that he is no longer suffering...but I sure will miss > him. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/greenman62@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 13:55:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A882584E4B for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 13:55:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f42.google.com (mail-wg0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC912580A10 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 13:55:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id z12so10191183wgg.25 for ; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:58:14 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=Wg3ykwjpUJVJBTsuHaYYKjjXav/dMU5abb/wXHToyAA=; b=gPrjY+Ep5CbeGuwjppWXSDkATsSnasMduvxLGKbfuQo+/XJ2MXSkobJtIcYWTwYAXv 36Zf1kufmEB68XBJJC4CguGXU1VSUOvWAfdCEdGTfrtxjZcZ+RsY/ZuUSxpr4w7tsIp1 hJunHNpl8kNrgXlp/RRJuwmA8kYDzmRNxPk368C7nsWJ1wZO9fJZ/uzo3f0B0iqa2q2z S0G4BLwWr8HIkk2gZE1Kk08nTqH7xpsdVYw49+RjKf4vKJSccD2llqBN4Di1QV683COr DeJca1xo/TX+rt0EP5BUHLfpaFO8bmOfSw9Fbl5m/I85ihAxr3we0isHvH/PI35trzW9 K4IA== gt8mr7004287wib.13.1412711894107; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:58:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.173.21.84]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id lk6sm22001929wjb.26.2014.10.07.12.58.13 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:58:13 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'davehogye'" , "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <175318608.3131927.1412612442987.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <330756783.3169325.1412614307832.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 21:58:20 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac/iaQtyuAQ3hv9yRPqVeP0C2O1hVw== Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Sonoma race results #63 TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Dave, sounds great! Seems you are getting in front more and more. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von davehogye Gesendet: Montag, 6. Oktober 2014 18:52 An: Friends of Triumph Betreff: [Fot] Sonoma race results #63 TR3 Hello Friends, I started 4th and finished 5th in the Sunday morning race. Best lap 2:06 to the winners 2:01 in the Huffaker MGA. 2nd place, Corvair Piranha 3rd place, FIA Triumph Spitfire, the driver Stan Rinne has over 500 races under his belt. He said I was able to pass him in the quali race because of the old tires on his car. He ran a fresh set on Sunday. 4th place, SCCA Alfa Giulietta Second race started 5th and finished 10th. Best lap 2:07. Got passed by a few cars that I was able to keep behind me in the first race as well as a Lister Chevy, Kurtiss 500S and a '55 Maserati 250F. I managed my rear axle seal problem with a disposable shop towel and a zip tie. I got some good video that I'll share later. There was some real close racing with my TR and I had a blast. This was my second race weekend as a driver. Dave H. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 14:35:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9419E2584F90 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 14:35:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f171.google.com (mail-ig0-f171.google.com [209.85.213.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72DF2580A10 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 13:42:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f171.google.com with SMTP id h15so4861737igd.4 for ; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:46:05 -0700 (PDT) h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:message-id:date :to:mime-version; bh=z6RMj/ymCXgAt/dSC3WrfQDzSZU6aALSvdh8kNnSV4c=; b=AphUbf/B0M2KrNkOFSsBDU26IpLaEnKsJqJHO1T11qz1o01iP6qca5SixvHswlHt6b vbRXAMCaCWURS90RkzzZO92HfN11ay8Ma6BW9b+K8IrfJDNallQelUfPGeZenpiUWBlc dMpEqWmZTf0KB9Rz3cakQy/4qvyDnAuaEgCrHMaX2LP5t4RYz2SPY4Fb2UZU6k0ZtaR3 peUjXzQ8mpuJh4duzPlhX6E9ypGgypZ4C4zl8Gxikg+URchqi5BV2CGf7OVJjHj+KZR1 zd1/HC3QaR3SF1goVbulYV0nKrrjbwpdi+aROf+rAEz+yBST2/aCXMNb7l3zss85Dwcm meog== ww1mr7717340icb.78.1412711165806; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (107-147-194-78.res.bhn.net. [107.147.194.78]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ky8sm12767302igb.16.2014.10.07.12.46.05 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:46:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 15:46:03 -0400 To: FOT List Triumph Subject: [Fot] Intake / Exhaust manifold mating surfaces to head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I am preparing my TR4a head to accept the intake and exhaust manifolds and there seems to be a rather significant difference in the diameters between the intake ports of the head (1-1/2" dia.) and the intake manifold (1-3/8 to 1-7/16" dia.). In addition, the two mating gaskets I measured come in with a dia. of 1-23/32nd, just under 1-3/4". The literature I have consulted recommends that the intake ports of the head and the manifold match up perfectly including the dia. of the mating gaskets. Not so critical on the exhaust as a "notch" to the upside on the exhaust port apparently aids in extracting gases. What have you all found in your engine building experiences? I could carefully enlarge the intake ports to match the head, but the remaining intake (TR4a long runner) shell would need to be a opened up around 7/32nds thereby perhaps weakening the runners? Thoughts? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 14:51:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C827258491B for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 14:51:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E4C2580A10 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 14:51:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD9A2C0122 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 14:54:59 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 14:54:58 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Regarding "Your message to Fot awaits moderator approval" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A number of you have gotten automated messages from the Team.Net mailman server over the last day or so with this subject. Basically there are three common reasons for this. 1. "post by a non-member" - This happens when you use more than one email address. For example say you were added to the list as drone@major.corp.com at the beginning. And at some point you are sending mail from your student@diploma.mill.edu to the list. The second address is unknown to Mailman, so it flags the message as from a non-member. Remember, YOU are not a member as far as the server is concerned, your email address is. If I can figure out that the sender really is someone on the list, I can add the second address to a list of approved folks, and you'll be set. Just did one a few minutes ago. 2. "Too many recipients to the message" - This caught a number of you with Bill's message about the passing of Wismer. ( Sniff. ) A lot of spammers, especially those who hijack some list members account, will send their spam to a long list of addresses. To counteract this, there is a fairly low limit to how many address besides fot appear in the "To:" list. And when you do a "reply all" it includes all those addresses and adds the original sender to the list. So if you don't manually trim down the recipient list to just fot@... it can get caught by Mailman. I went through and approved all the ones for FOT, will check again after my afternoon stroll. 3. "message too big" - There is a size limit on messages. This is due to the fact that most mailers include the entire original message in a reply. And most people don't edit them out, or their device makes it really difficult to do so. Someone sends out a message asking "What color is your car?" Basically what happens is something like this: >>>>> What color is your car >>>>> Mine is red >>>> Mine is blue >>> Mine is green >> Mine is white And eventually the size of the messages goes over the limit. I do try to keep on top of the held messages for this list, but sometimes it takes me a while to get to it. Some of the very low traffic lists can go weeks or months without me cleaning up the admin cruft. Currently there are 16,066 held messages waiting for my inspection. Fun. But the vast majority are obvious spam and quickly removed. But it does take some time for the man behind the curtain to deal with keeping Team.Net flowing. Or in the case of AOL, Hotmail and some others, flowing as well as the DMARC mess will let it flow. It's always something. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 15:50:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 641DE2584932 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 15:50:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f181.google.com (mail-ob0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E6B25808BB for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 15:46:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f181.google.com with SMTP id wm4so6539071obc.12 for ; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 14:49:13 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=+uXe+IKUW0ojbfkA8drCIymSnxmBfl0WFMBbh61XBCE=; b=EWnLEDApDNGkEL9NYaXjdKdJKctmtBrjpK2bGIxhnE5AC/n+wdY5vlwJ7thPhdYxUO n3VH7kM19G0ZcxM8uUQvvd1kOxlKEEO1sSGo2/32sRbMWOORCiPQ9W6Ggk6mYp2EQmfa CTJ2TdXmT9nklmgK+Hr6pdI2xDcJydgp0q08grXJU+HApxhjMhzM8AFl8Zi6aDC4s6Tp SWvK2qCU19BzR1SAhpCYWn7MDkR1Jo4AXMof+w8Cothcjn5UfdzFXEc+sv8ZazkSBbvs IzEqILQNMN8xiCNiufdafNk6iNp1zHHBdLt1fZmayoeW9qnUlIAmAhK54Loic9MKDqUF KG1A== sv19mr6666157oeb.78.1412718553516; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 14:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.107.206 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 14:48:53 -0700 (PDT) From: "Enquiries Road & Track" Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 07:48:53 +1000 To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] Re difference early and late TR6 Cylinder head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net the "wide" head, as many seem to call it, first appeared on the TR5 in 1967. My TR5 still has its original head in 1968 the GT6 & Vitesse models got a thinner version of this head (different combustion chamber volume), . In 1969 a few 2000 sedans were built with this "thin" head and some other block changes, but it did not become widespread in UK or Australia until the 2.5PI sedan of 1970. At this time, the TR6 PI was well underway and used the exact same head/engine as the TR5 When the GT6 changed to domed top pistons, it allowed the same 'thick" head casting to be used on both 2000 & 2500 engines, but there were still subtle differences in the heads none of the above referenced models used the US style TR250 head with its narrow port spacing. why it took till 1971 or 72 to change the head to the more universally used type, is unknown to me. hopefully, can someone shed some light on this ?? Terry _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 20:52:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B152584EEC for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 20:52:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy5-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy5-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.38.55]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1EFBC2580BB1 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 20:46:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 3316 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2014 02:49:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw4) (10.0.90.85) by gproxy5.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 8 Oct 2014 02:49:17 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw4 with id 0YpB1p0051NzpT901YpEAA; Wed, 08 Oct 2014 02:49:17 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=yKqyAkVeGwwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=dWpzBV9c9IVWUN7GReYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=50270 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XbhJP-0006ql-SU; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 20:49:12 -0600 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 21:49:06 -0500 To: Dan ,FOT List Triumph From: Tony Drews References: {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] Intake / Exhaust manifold mating surfaces to head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You're very liable to make things worse by opening up the manifold. Having the manifold port somewhat smaller than the head port isn't a big problem. Tony Drews At 02:46 PM 10/7/2014, Dan wrote: >I am preparing my TR4a head to accept the intake and exhaust manifolds and >there seems to be a rather significant difference in the diameters between the >intake ports of the head (1-1/2" dia.) and the intake manifold (1-3/8 to >1-7/16" dia.). In addition, the two mating gaskets I measured come in with a >dia. of 1-23/32nd, just under 1-3/4". The literature I have consulted >recommends that the intake ports of the head and the manifold match up >perfectly including the dia. of the mating gaskets. Not so critical on the >exhaust as a "notch" to the upside on the exhaust port apparently aids in >extracting gases. What have you all found in your engine building >experiences? I could carefully enlarge the intake ports to match the head, >but the remaining intake (TR4a long runner) shell would need to be a opened >up around 7/32nds thereby perhaps weakening the runners? Thoughts? >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 8 07:12:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2756A2584FA3 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 07:12:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f47.google.com (mail-oi0-f47.google.com [209.85.218.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C866425805F9 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 07:07:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f47.google.com with SMTP id a141so7469754oig.34 for ; Wed, 08 Oct 2014 06:10:25 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gAq/RvRapcQppkuPwYRgEFrM9CkOczrkV+hhUlpplyE=; b=ypEFM2ov+uIWBkhXQEmTHB6251jF9gNHfGd2+7+/bjK6/ydfbEuTJJbJNK306V/QDJ dWvEzjefPAGqzMIlz0i1B6HHhAHIOriOD0U8fxT5Fx6wnOhz/5U7uBatIWKim742Xy5T YcNZ7fgQ7QvS7IvgegfFnAKuShUvzdwwCb6YXmuYjlbN9klRN3jnpd0jaELHoM8+i+hs mEIG4YYR7yCNMwbnVbcy+W2cMPydQ9e0BWAoI0OFXU9undnDzU3LMmWAGXZDj7mZq5PF +GCV9/Ji/3f1qBYkD9Tt7vp6itXsH1b7Q8QxHSGkVHGJkXPEXYe9+xaaIrlHcPrBfIcC jTKA== cj9mr11980780oec.21.1412773824586; Wed, 08 Oct 2014 06:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Duncans-MacBook-Pro.local (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e5sm18620oex.12.2014.10.08.06.10.24 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 08 Oct 2014 06:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2014 08:10:23 -0500 From: Duncan Charlton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <20141008025227.659EF2584942@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] Intake / Exhaust manifold mating surfaces to head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net My book sources indicate that it's fine for the intake manifold runner to be slightly smaller than the port entrance on the head, and the opposite goes for the exhaust port/manifold junction. Pulsing pressure waves revert upstream due to valve closure and leaving a lip at the outer edge theoretically blocks the reversion wave to some extent. It's OK to have a "downward" step for the gases to fall over but you don't want an "upward" step for the gases to have to pass over. Duncan (Texas) On 10/7/14, 9:49 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > You're very liable to make things worse by opening up the manifold. > Having the manifold port somewhat smaller than the head port isn't a > big problem. > > Tony Drews > > At 02:46 PM 10/7/2014, Dan wrote: >> I am preparing my TR4a head to accept the intake and exhaust >> manifolds and >> there seems to be a rather significant difference in the diameters >> between the >> intake ports of the head (1-1/2" dia.) and the intake manifold (1-3/8 to >> 1-7/16" dia.). In addition, the two mating gaskets I measured come in >> with a >> dia. of 1-23/32nd, just under 1-3/4". The literature I have consulted >> recommends that the intake ports of the head and the manifold match up >> perfectly including the dia. of the mating gaskets. Not so critical >> on the >> exhaust as a "notch" to the upside on the exhaust port apparently >> aids in >> extracting gases. What have you all found in your engine building >> experiences? I could carefully enlarge the intake ports to match the >> head, >> but the remaining intake (TR4a long runner) shell would need to be a >> opened >> up around 7/32nds thereby perhaps weakening the runners? Thoughts? >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 8 08:12:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE7C2584FC2 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 08:12:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m3.mx.aol.com (omr-m3.mx.aol.com [64.12.233.221]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F403E2580414 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 08:09:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mbe01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mbe01.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.175]) by omr-m3.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 5DDB63800018E for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 10:13:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mla005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mla005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.186.83]) by mtaomg-mbe01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D5DED38000082 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 10:13:03 -0400 (EDT) To: fot@autox.team.net From: billdentin@aol.com Received: from 70.194.156.61 by webmail-va112.sysops.aol.com (205.188.21.102) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 08 Oct 2014 10:13:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 10:13:03 -0400 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1412777584; bh=34uwb6oXWf3gVSv6EIoTdqvPa/Jo4b5XNpk7HVfmXV4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ksqG9j7PEKCegl09GcpTeV8BbUd1vtByEoe4csKI01R3Ba0BOs8gWhbsxL8AgtM7Z 1qorG7luMFMlrkAAzQ2j74BWqKWIlK6OLG3cttG309cCG4Q+nRy/ko6oCG68Pttp85 7KtYFZScrEO7AEmBrolkhxfwynouM/TWo/0gc1PE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afeaf5435466f21e7 Subject: [Fot] Bob Wismer's OBIT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici... FOT members interested in seeing BOB WISMER's obit, can try linking to the website below: "http://www.raffertyfunerals.com/sitemaker/sites/raffer0/obit.cgi?user=143227 3Wismer" _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 8 14:00:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BAD0258099D for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 14:00:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40DB725802EA for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 13:54:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [107.147.194.78] ([107.147.194.78:35436] helo=[10.0.1.2]) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 79/AE-04081-C2795345; Wed, 08 Oct 2014 19:57:32 +0000 From: Dan Cronin Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 15:57:31 -0400 References: To: FOT List Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Intake / Exhaust manifold mating surfaces to head---THANKS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net 10/8 Thanks to all who took the time to read my query and respond. Very interesting variety of thought on wether or not matching the ports is a big deal --- or not (as long as the gas / exhaust flows from smaller to larger bores). Dan On Oct 7, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Dan wrote: I am preparing my TR4a head to accept the intake and exhaust manifolds and there seems to be a rather significant difference in the diameters between the intake ports of the head (1-1/2" dia.) and the intake manifold (1-3/8 to 1-7/16" dia.). In addition, the two mating gaskets I measured come in with a dia. of 1-23/32nd, just under 1-3/4". The literature I have consulted recommends that the intake ports of the head and the manifold match up perfectly including the dia. of the mating gaskets. Not so critical on the exhaust as a "notch" to the upside on the exhaust port apparently aids in extracting gases. What have you all found in your engine building experiences? I could carefully enlarge the intake ports to match the head, but the remaining intake (TR4a long runner) shell would need to be a opened up around 7/32nds thereby perhaps weakening the runners? Thoughts? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/adcronin@mi.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 8 14:46:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FBF1258090B for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 14:46:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC2S6.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s6.hotmail.com [65.55.111.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E93125805EB for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 14:41:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU173-W45 ([65.55.111.72]) by BLU004-OMC2S6.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Wed, 8 Oct 2014 13:44:49 -0700 From: Henry Morrison To: fot Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 14:44:48 -0600 FILETIME=[B4182A30:01CFE338] Subject: [Fot] Red TR3A with skirts westbound I-40 near Santa Rosa New Mexico Yesterday Morning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Anybody we know? It had a large white meatball on the drivers side. Cheers, Henry Morrison _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 8 15:03:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 382D52584493 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 15:03:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f182.google.com (mail-ig0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF0325805EB for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 15:02:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f182.google.com with SMTP id hn15so351233igb.9 for ; Wed, 08 Oct 2014 14:06:05 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=2kCGqUwcBw2pddAwJklD1eeYQWBtKzjt8AJr8pw4WNg=; b=PkBbavx/3JGpdGIqZBsd/ib8yb7kFe6UrfdUpzbqY7ZUpaNhG5URCak/xRMiFmbe+L vkxZ3xqlRVOz0cZNZzBNNhWS3mEhvokPMd4ktKMBxw4odU/Daxsn6qRwm2A5FL2eCYoq PK2SzmYrJMfcSyW82HB9z6LwrUu6jSV0yFwiMNxZQKf+jmLPL8gXyeO9mX+5gwhJcAzZ u5b5SjJ8LmJkEyvaxGLUuSEt9UwKzoQJxfhaTu94N3LJSW7fF1jMv51XBJ7GDLIylx3V QByv3NiMopcw+G6KMvnU9XCXqibIcfPaMRFG76lcUxMJcycUxIZWFbv/AsC7GxaDuIVB LWRw== mb5mr334614icc.43.1412802365559; Wed, 08 Oct 2014 14:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.60.144 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 14:06:05 -0700 (PDT) References: <649774C1-335A-4CBA-8C09-D3D074997AF5@mi.rr.com> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 17:06:05 -0400 From: John Styduhar To: Dan Cronin Cc: FOT List Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Intake / Exhaust manifold mating surfaces to head---THANKS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You should read what Kas has to say in his prep manual.. He recommends port matching. On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Dan Cronin wrote: > 10/8 > Thanks to all who took the time to read my query and respond. Very > interesting variety of thought on wether or not matching the ports is a big > deal --- or not (as long as the gas / exhaust flows from smaller to larger > bores). > Dan > > On Oct 7, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Dan wrote: > > I am preparing my TR4a head to accept the intake and exhaust manifolds and > there seems to be a rather significant difference in the diameters between > the > intake ports of the head (1-1/2" dia.) and the intake manifold (1-3/8 to > 1-7/16" dia.). In addition, the two mating gaskets I measured come in with > a > dia. of 1-23/32nd, just under 1-3/4". The literature I have consulted > recommends that the intake ports of the head and the manifold match up > perfectly including the dia. of the mating gaskets. Not so critical on the > exhaust as a "notch" to the upside on the exhaust port apparently aids in > extracting gases. What have you all found in your engine building > experiences? I could carefully enlarge the intake ports to match the head, > but the remaining intake (TR4a long runner) shell would need to be a > opened > up around 7/32nds thereby perhaps weakening the runners? Thoughts? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/adcronin@mi.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 8 16:18:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172232585274 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 16:18:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.110]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F472580A68 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 16:18:29 -0600 (MDT) s=s2048; t=1412806897; bh=hMwoX2LK0qawEnENaCKv6tuRGC6GMNNFvu/KVtMj694=; h=Received:Received:Received:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-YMail-OSG:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Length:From:Subject; b=q3MtC0o8+r/mHt8YKluINT7brABY5o8fdxEcznDJbBVx5zJsITFowN02yLHESxnOrNWlHo8rmz7T+RW6CoSDZ6rdvMaEhKBmAcErNjh6+oTCDwibKul69ZooCcu/aQp3wUCkeZ/cZbZen3m80WRNOTcZx3EOEHRblMcW/zOYz/cY9eJgUjZBS9q3B7KadKXhclRq/Grhgc56Lz8Eg3KmJgnVGfIUVVEhK86o9K0ZrrRavwuyM4VguAvqhgWQQkGrVuRVdoQOsqZAjENUSj/ipEMvgki7/8RxoXrLpMPgDlq4VHKHzxzN2Zm0SXBCasnHNSRtGBwUroKrz8NhPJRapQ== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=tD8O34Hrwu/5gvuc1ZbpTGrc/A2gXti9ql4IblEcxB1Z0uPdMrM/xdys3lcnxpbIaZ4Sb6/Ya6Pxhjrdp0FvernW97j/thSr8w3rJhilTkHdb8EbJ3qolYoLD4iVsM98/yMxS11Am0BvPa6hPlkwQ/V1v1YD0MG6UAtERB90QJUPySSb2W35j8y8yML2MfLqNUG+ucBTidUk0Ep4ykVs366RSIq5m0rsbzb3dr+NcDlR/9ziWVOD4VXY5rBZGQ2WUSFo+w4hf37qXbizB5u1Apkq9V0FoMiofBM0ZG36IlZHltNDI4LbA+fl1pYWftEX6b8cpY+J0wCwjdD9kL8MFA==; Received: from [98.138.101.131] by nm17.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2014 22:21:37 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.239] by tm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2014 22:21:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1039.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2014 22:21:37 -0000 XRxyqjXxPPSXFSJryPiQ93gA_X51Q2ErHk606q4PR1_y4UarQLn0Pg7898AhMT8U15aNGNkm72IN r6hwRst_jHshGW.4ZfuD8cENkkq_89b6VIXcwdvBYH1qyamKgQI11_nGEi03uKZK6YkhQcV3igQU Bv9Xll27K2i5oGk746D6KjdSRjhcRzrARknQcgRy4.F0hjzBWgVO0cu0FNnikuAro92eV7zIDnYP qYUtZclZAjbnYrJ.1XYEvieQ23sXfu4ohj91RhQ8UHeFXkxU.ZDcYlE7letCTvTJkv27cLR1S8B9 3ERdH6TdR6Lcx5UTOGSPboG19W8j5pUnhIST5b3cxajLhToeQkiHpMv6wdbyWxO2Vxi.RSJdEJ.H IZQVtf.Rl5db7dhjQjnKBCWbjYRvkHrC24eRWxX8aTuDYLjdUmUjbjPz9Nr0Wg4lmVpAd_XvS9od pn24OSxzBhQGddITjZJWRWcBAEBFNVztfPDFFu4nTsDAdhlsLpVmPqcZfTzP.ee7oH8CF2w-- Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 22:21:35 +0000 (UTC) From: dustin nicholson To: Henry Morrison , fot References: Subject: Re: [Fot] Red TR3A with skirts westbound I-40 near Santa Rosa New Mexico Yesterday Morning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Maybe Rob Noyes-Smith?B He has a red TR3 race car that is street legal, lives in Albuquerque I think.B I don't recall skirts on it but I think it does have white meatballs.B The car was for sale at Kastner Cup this year in Texas, might have a new home now. Dusty Nicholson1971 Spitfire FP No. 4 On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 3:44 PM, Henry Morrison wrote: Anybody we know?B It had a large white meatball on the drivers side. Cheers, Henry Morrison _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/nicholsondustin@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 8 17:17:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42EF325853A8 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 17:17:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC3S17.hotmail.com (blu004-omc3s17.hotmail.com [65.55.116.92]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A9062585318 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 17:14:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU173-W2 ([65.55.116.72]) by BLU004-OMC3S17.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Wed, 8 Oct 2014 16:18:07 -0700 From: Henry Morrison To: dustin nicholson , fot Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 17:18:07 -0600 References: , <1673257976.657769.1412806895700.JavaMail.yahoo@jws100203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> FILETIME=[1E9E7890:01CFE34E] Subject: Re: [Fot] Red TR3A with skirts westbound I-40 near Santa Rosa New Mexico Yesterday Morning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net No, that's my old car, it wasn't him. The meatball had some script in it, no number...........Cheers, Henry ( the car was being driven) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 22:21:35 +0000 From: nicholsondustin@yahoo.com To: dos_gusanos@msn.com; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Red TR3A with skirts westbound I-40 near Santa Rosa New Mexico Yesterday Morning Maybe Rob Noyes-Smith? He has a red TR3 race car that is street legal, lives in Albuquerque I think. I don't recall skirts on it but I think it does have white meatballs. The car was for sale at Kastner Cup this year in Texas, might have a new home now. Dusty Nicholson1971 Spitfire FP No. 4 On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 3:44 PM, Henry Morrison wrote: Anybody we know? It had a large white meatball on the drivers side. Cheers, Henry Morrison _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/nicholsondustin@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 9 00:35:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F0A25854F1 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 00:35:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B058258443C for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 00:28:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B8A2C034E for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 00:31:31 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 00:31:30 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: FOT References: <8D1B1191C135308-1048-1C75@webmail-va112.sysops.aol.com> Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Bob Wismer's OBIT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net So did folks see this post earlier today? -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [Fot] Bob Wismer's OBIT Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 10:13:03 -0400 From: billdentin@aol.com To: fot@autox.team.net Amici... FOT members interested in seeing BOB WISMER's obit, can try linking to the website below: http://www.raffertyfunerals.com/sitemaker/sites/raffer0/obit.cgi?user=1432273Wismer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 9 08:53:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFA925856BD for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 08:53:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp650.redcondor.net (smtp650.redcondor.net [208.80.206.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC312580771 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 08:51:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cgp.netins.net ([167.142.229.73]) by smtp650.redcondor.net ({9ef01f99-b982-4add-83fd-b7c41c74273c}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20140922144505739; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 14:45:05 +0000 Received: from [208.126.78.151] (account riverside@southslope.net HELO rileyPC) by cgpf2.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.14) with ESMTPA id 791979742; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 09:44:58 -0500 From: To: , "Dennis DeLap" References: <377700.10957.bm@smtp229.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 09:44:58 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Jack Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I miss you. art d -----Original Message----- From: Dennis DeLap Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:50 AM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Jack A M I C I Today is Jack Drews Birthday. Happy Birthday Jack! _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/riverside@southslope.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4025/8256 - Release Date: 09/22/14 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 9 16:14:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5145925843DB for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 16:14:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy2-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy2-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.18.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 804712580930 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 16:05:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 11984 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2014 22:08:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO CMOut01) (10.0.90.82) by gproxy2.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 9 Oct 2014 22:08:48 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by CMOut01 with id 1A5X1p00X1NzpT901A7jWw; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 16:07:45 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=yKqyAkVeGwwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=awkQvIwgkavLDl7lHOwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MbivVWYPzTAA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=64230 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XcJqN-0000kI-Bw; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 13:57:47 -0600 Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 14:57:40 -0500 To: John Styduhar ,Dan Cronin From: Tony Drews mail.com> References: <649774C1-335A-4CBA-8C09-D3D074997AF5@mi.rr.com> {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Cc: FOT List Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Intake / Exhaust manifold mating surfaces to head---THANKS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net A little more on port matching - what Jack found working on the flow bench is that if you open up the intake runner ID too quickly you kill the flow through the manifold. The air delaminates from the surface and becomes turbulent. You need to keep the change in ID to under 7 degrees of taper. Also, look at the port in the head - some of them had a ball mill shoved in for a short distance and the inner port diameter is much smaller. In that case you may be better off adding epoxy to the port in the head to make it more of a straight shot. He also found that a step from smaller diameter to larger diameter in the direction of flow wasn't very harmful to overall flow. http://www.tonydrews.com/uncle_jacks_engine_building_tips.htm#Head Tony Drews At 04:06 PM 10/8/2014, John Styduhar wrote: >You should read what Kas has to say in his prep manual.. He recommends >port matching. > >On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Dan Cronin wrote: > > > 10/8 > > Thanks to all who took the time to read my query and respond. Very > > interesting variety of thought on wether or not matching the ports is a big > > deal --- or not (as long as the gas / exhaust flows from smaller to larger > > bores). > > Dan > > > > On Oct 7, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Dan wrote: > > > > I am preparing my TR4a head to accept the intake and exhaust manifolds and > > there seems to be a rather significant difference in the diameters between > > the > > intake ports of the head (1-1/2" dia.) and the intake manifold (1-3/8 to > > 1-7/16" dia.). In addition, the two mating gaskets I measured come in with > > a > > dia. of 1-23/32nd, just under 1-3/4". The literature I have consulted > > recommends that the intake ports of the head and the manifold match up > > perfectly including the dia. of the mating gaskets. Not so critical on the > > exhaust as a "notch" to the upside on the exhaust port apparently aids in > > extracting gases. What have you all found in your engine building > > experiences? I could carefully enlarge the intake ports to match the head, > > but the remaining intake (TR4a long runner) shell would need to be a > > opened > > up around 7/32nds thereby perhaps weakening the runners? Thoughts? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 9 17:29:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBCAF25844E0 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 17:29:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m4.mx.aol.com (omr-m4.mx.aol.com [64.12.226.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD0DA2580972 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 17:27:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mca02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mca02.mx.aol.com [172.26.221.78]) by omr-m4.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 517F23800009A for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 19:30:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.27.196.210] (unknown [166.170.33.134]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mca02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 817B338000090 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 19:30:20 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher bock Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 19:30:19 -0400 To: FoTTriumph x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1412897421; bh=HaURAN2OYFQn8oMw1xSEdnfypbCS/fM1SiyM76ry8Kg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=1xt4sZQzz+dBlmrCo2/3W48DQk82ivCMX2N4IUT2i71L3U4kh9OnB+obIixiqgi1F WClUlomehZKHFqQHSvrnhzgDJKWnrd0dsk/gX7T7ygkqg/5P7r3gnmmIqE11AT8X/U c4fhLZkuft+XIRC/C/dNwmDcyx+xCZGoO+SyfKw0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1add4e54371a8c33d6 Subject: [Fot] What I saw on tv Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici, I was watching the tv show scorpion and while the characters were walking threw their hangout is saw a GT6. The main character drives a Datsun 280(?) Sincerely, Chris Bock SeaCubeCo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 11 13:35:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 485FF2584895 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 13:35:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm21-vm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm21-vm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D13725803B5 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 13:34:57 -0600 (MDT) s=s2048; t=1413056287; bh=mAU9BkK7LRLQfYmiZORtfJ4kVUQplrjg4rRDRJr4oQc=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=mj1fXtaYFhaS3EZwYux3bgvwUzbCekLMPvidWpdCaq1Fgu03Fu5lLCDrPka3ysQc85EI07JwxJbE4k4gXm+vTCLF1EdZb2Fn2VZvWe0uAwOzKTFFYwETkqcQTlXy6uJuwvCA1bFcVfoxN7VFAisrbiVEikFFLvwwx0gyGG9L+rPPTSMfKo8Y9W2D4ltZaeFBPCeXuVWcTOQIO1LcRfSeQ6ZwGTreQ8IQqaASAfr2BhxYrCfZ447lcWROy6W/DOH7LlTg6rSatw4T3R58J1AzbEktQ5p0m//HWNFJrjdNFtGNMyhNiSu0NGxxU7NDnu7JN1jAShVe5zGRH2KmfRcQgA== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=NQiX56VHZ6g8WoEA1N3yClsW6jsz9GrOMVG8UfxBv4prYPU2nN/sTn5LQ6h0MT/iZX+qErGauQbgAnvHUc04QtdZNjYLbIy6/c0L5EWEZq7XznB2T/lSiJqjQfIEx7URF0FW7iQQ8025V/ikX/sOzswpmpu6gX0vyRvtyGI4V28KoezLBYE8aCwgCADpq3fUIiBSl1o9/MKzbyS9zvXW4euLr8IuxgE5s93Vqssdf76rsGxmdaH61+sSqPTLOIvuhiuGqWEkZDHKs1wYc25fhUeC48BP9iLcPDJtWyra3TfKItQgZ7KTrhQdWyVyX6tGNa8TwDv5z5Z4qJUSvlM5vQ==; Received: from [216.39.60.173] by nm21.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Oct 2014 19:38:07 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.241] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Oct 2014 19:38:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp112.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Oct 2014 19:38:03 -0000 91u3PtaU0nu8eLsgmGIwRtBlVMaunKZOcUpU_T_JdtEYsMnM3oOM0AgqNLjR Vm6OaST8hl1XVniAPMY5S9jPI8haa748W6qHdf3V9toWD2CUy57apgjxc5Yi ja9MSwsQz2thMLdAr2dD7T6IwwDe.kl17kCHeeaoxU2Gu6cEUwynePNuFKhV W9rEjrbQhmscZyCgIZJfmf_XuyMhu2VGh2RUJhYPiQ05AbxwSBlvel_ocZu9 Ae4Otv9VSSuweAo29r8sAfnaC3H.gD8435I75mXBYKFaOF5Nvd4ZsxJ003xl lowj4JsL0_cXozP4Com0D7uTQddkBm63hHDZWfnXOB.nAAtu2GbWf07wtTh6 QWg.7wsRc6RWi8_vaTf4etQnzNlGBv8dRfYAKFQ3_mjcRSXb8t0_UQlkYW2z tI3H4CBGN5yoVxVUFDYp5xhWrEV4JvqFzXrqRwL7Osn6UiGERigXud6vf.81 3zi46NhJjeoz0r0Gt4DOdCe50BAHgUvOFdQVbPXDlg5lm7yNJUj0cn9nCvXm wDNJlFLceAyeIoYUiT8PVJ7BRM1CDoflh_HlzK7aGVdq0wldjHMgA58xwjOg hmsZlqmCdEDa1bUCJX5wTTXPnBYkvCPRwWGlYFNFdNGXQ75Sb Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 14:38:53 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: "FOT@autox.team.net" References: <00ad01cfe34f$88e58b20$9ab0a160$@gmail.com> Subject: [Fot] Fwd: FW: Triumph parts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone need some parts? NFI *From: *Tracy Paylor _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 12 07:36:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C1572580806 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 07:36:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm25-vm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm25-vm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.233]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB35325806C2 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 07:32:44 -0600 (MDT) s=s2048; t=1413120954; bh=X7S7BynZxgmGCLrV2OASLtKgOIW2Bh07WZL6suDYgnI=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=GBWCrr/c6RgaHVhjwXq0rkZvUgM6myG+xxDowcKvQhC64OQPTPxhR8jZjVPOTn4kRSVeMBhr9b6IIaIghcfoDATvPGrrs+b/9cYwnWcrwEgVbOX2wi5iWHQfR6Na47E5FdqeN+yHLpKK8Xzd4kZLdCXsOmjtFAzHVM23kWMoHxNq2opJNcFpzV/fpfALG0V4dAN16ZV5kvNsAI/CS/fCdpOOsjZ2LSWBrpfluk/v5DodYE9SyYusLuFXO2Q/9PGCV7cn3PJhw9/ZpJeojwZf+IfjXcQoOrM4kDQJKZ9qWCjwMuactOPpmjLSaIpySRrtqBs2J1HrazOFJllYM2aK6A== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=XaM6zG1HkPrxJR864EZJsLYGkLVX4KjroJRnom3D/N6LCyW6/KVRECb+T7amHM7qOfutp20T9ejZY3mXhJX/ePfJOWkYseUIrROp8ubB6zUXfb+kgjLiEO61MNuzLlKQ5/wP3zHExK4VPvNRjkMoatc+pDQkC8suJKfUyPPcbO+lh0Dwe4ZPmGp+hP3vsvhr4MO6YVcveN7TzzKTpOClL0ybBc+gtT11mPX/gQk+aYRHRmUxwe/0RuE0MEObyKki2iKUUrsU8idE0UtbzzRnu/Dzw3JO4oRtyI+b6y80mD/Hqa9lV7vLkPy5dbjV/5+9zAiItVDaO+tgRBogDpSARg==; Received: from [216.39.60.167] by nm25.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Oct 2014 13:35:54 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.97] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Oct 2014 13:35:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp117.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Oct 2014 13:35:54 -0000 3IaeAFE.WaOoDyT49m4p9d7XCeI4kKATTtAyzTCh5nsAiMlsDf426JAhu7nI rNbk2t0wP1oejN3J_AX6uRwPSBs1VBVnepM5f0KRx8X0s0R2N1lWCbvOj85P RrBpre.I7IMf9DYTfTLC1JW_z_9HqNRaq0j_JrvvCRQoF5908Yo6FZGqxdIj y_D18ng6K_rOd49eqW71wSPD35LS2FAHQbWAjqSEIJ9Y6PdnJMQHxMGIdj0t WPo0OW_Ktu1KBUunJbBzVVhUzzSlpbicxlFRe0jFy1zd.q1D3Ws5KgbQ9qA2 TcT0T4tpVZF0XVJ0Yv8xo2WKh2icjhzEStgxRXSL1fDssr8jjXxaLlinXA0I Z7agRqai5Mu0My9ft24uZHDq1SceZuXnX8plQCIp7lBjfbA2f_mvb2ey2Hp6 vAhFKTOUhuBN4_uwPCCSgBA2AqLXLd2C2k_79U7wgR3GkmMAJWZUzkmIzCwg FlQ.TpZs3W8XgavhKo34WTh6hiAeGCa3do8M6tBPXg4JF9XmpfPo_krj_w1A rMdcr9olCBbWTbEKD2QmVBn4cuPnwqrzXTnYVehJvXhoelVw_dBF5FK7tQwS 7HcOOqIamb8vds_MYAXtaOT6InntYB_1n2IzIjNFFOqcJFBEmjdUS3t2Z51L FpbQ_Q4qyKSEuH4uUz97XnsEGBVlEu2eDxPxW6Q-- Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 08:35:52 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <00ad01cfe34f$88e58b20$9ab0a160$@gmail.com> <5439874D.6030000@pobox.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: FW: Triumph parts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I know nothing about these parts. Contact Mr. Paylor. On 10/11/2014 2:38 PM, Larry Young wrote: > Anyone need some parts? NFI > > *From: *Tracy Paylor > *Subject: Triumph parts* > > *Date: *September 30, 2014 at 9:19:32 AM CDT > > > Hello. About two weeks ago I acquired a trailer of spitfire parts > that I was going to take to the scrap yard until I was told there > might possibly be a triumph car club near by. I am located in > Norman, OK. I have enclosed a few of 75 pictures I have taken of > the items I finally sorted out last friday. I'm simply looking to > sell off everything. If possible I would like to sell as a whole. > If you or anyone would be interested please let me know. I cannot > send more than a few pics by email so if you would like all 75 it > would be easier to send them by text. Thank you. I have blocks (4 > and 6 cylinder), cams, cranks, timing chain covers, heads (4 and 6), > suspension and steering parts, carburetors, intakes, pulleys, roll > bars, transmissions, gear boxes, fly wheels (steel and aluminum), > a-arms, etc; > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel@pobox.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 08:32:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F8E7258488F for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 08:32:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63512580414 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 08:32:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-aae02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-aae02.mx.aol.com [172.27.1.98]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 04ABF703F5995 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 10:35:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.105] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-aae02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 1786D3800008F for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 10:35:13 -0400 (EDT) References: <7BE8A155-205F-4EAC-A591-3AD8DB8638C2@cs.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 09:35:12 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1413210920; bh=7/hw4Jg5tHrUN0N1D6E/TBjqwPC7OYwoTAoh4mFSSp8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=fEkp5UWF1XJuyQUJItC89npVYygZHINQMHdmhAhQkYrP5ABn2Ye2DbV/JmtbMiNSr PKGU5cUAet5Tmb+j+7CoQFzIYxhGjT3Pyk5TOtd437IgcD717U3xCEEpBxyvwBSYxT rOqw8ifNGPan5d1cR4sizqBq/HZ2Z0ZuY5C2HQ5c= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b0162543be321192c Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Summit Point 2015 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT: In a moment of Brilliance, Henry Frye and Scott Janzen proposed Summit Point next May for the Jefferson 500. Smaller and personable venue, well established event, and a destination location near DC; what more could be asked for? There is a heavy concentration of Triumph racers and enthusiasts on the east coast, so expect serious attendance. The link below shows the joys of the Kastner Cup as exhibited by Jeff Snook. Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 Begin forwarded message: > From: Joe Alexander > Date: October 12, 2014 at 10:36:55 AM CDT > To: n197tr4@cs.com > Subject: atlanta_cup.jpg 1,280C960 pixels > > > http://www.kaskastner.com/images/atlanta_cup.jpg > > > > > > Joe Alexander > 645 1st Street > Jesup, IA 50648 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 11:12:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB58E2584678 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 11:12:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545AB25845C6 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 11:12:29 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: dnvrco-oedge03 smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.70.248] ([107.14.70.248:32529] helo=dnvrco-web14) by dnvrco-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 79/48-27958-CB80C345; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 17:15:40 +0000 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 17:15:40 +0000 From: To: fot@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal Oct 2014 17:15:40 +0000 a=wAyFwspFC75BjEd6OtOw1g==:117 a=wAyFwspFC75BjEd6OtOw1g==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=rqpTRCDbaCB4_JIQyF4A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=xX3tVY31qwMA:10 a=lvkwCfdMqDMA:10 a=mlDkBan0WfcA:10 Subject: [Fot] Empty trailer from Ohio area to Toronto CA area Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've sold a non-running TR250 to a guy from the Toronto area. He has no idea how to transport it but I am going to pick up a car that's in Ohio. Does anyone have any contacts that could bring the car to him in Canada from the Columbus area? Bob Kramer rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 12:55:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA3BC25849AD for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 12:55:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SNT004-OMC2S35.hotmail.com (snt004-omc2s35.hotmail.com [65.55.90.110]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC91D25847F5 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 12:53:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT407-EAS227 ([65.55.90.71]) by SNT004-OMC2S35.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Mon, 13 Oct 2014 11:56:33 -0700 References: <20141013171540.PPV83.72780.root@dnvrco-web14> From: D V Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 13:56:30 -0500 To: "rkramer3@austin.rr.com" FILETIME=[685E5370:01CFE717] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Empty trailer from Ohio area to Toronto CA area Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Check out ucanimport.com. If he is not going the shipper route and is going to trailer it across the border, my understanding is that he needs to fax/mail title documents to the US side of the border crossing 72 hrs prior to arrival. This is a US stamp on the title and should have no impact on registering/titling in CAN. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 13, 2014, at 12:16 PM, rkramer3@austin.rr.com wrote: > I've sold a non-running TR250 to a guy from the Toronto area. He has no idea how to transport it but I am going to pick up a car that's in Ohio. Does anyone have any contacts that could bring the car to him in Canada from the Columbus area? > > > Bob Kramer > rkramer3@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/explore8@outlook.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 13 17:32:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C772580946 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 17:32:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928D6258009C for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 17:32:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-16v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.112]) by resqmta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 2nbW1p0012S2Q5R01nbZXF; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 23:35:33 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.4] ([50.184.84.92]) by resomta-ch2-16v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 2nbZ1p0041zXZLq01nbZfK; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 23:35:33 +0000 From: Dave Hogye Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 16:35:32 -0700 To: Friends of Friends of Triumph s=q20140121; t=1413243333; bh=N1wCRMnKdKS52TOUhzGXKodgXSDAhI7ATO2aieAoFFM=; h=Received:Received:From:Content-Type:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To: Mime-Version; b=Na/FbAR6eDlr2aR1RKrDJgeYP2wi1dTsvoh8mREFBkYUtAxEX+6kpGLsrriUJx4HX etssd0ARk+/DD4ctbD0sWql81pC/VqnvKrY9dGdNYJLIJULuIHHmoJG3PFamuiyTaK /HGZ1gO1FHrF9SGVaJfChMMKV813Nv4ePK5YC0ZV1f4gr5XExzQqQy4s43fC8QUMCA SNbwo5CLA2WlLFwxIrkvg+dGM5SodDxtpIULrJz72aBC/dTdgJRsKAY+Ocpkv74XWc 6n0Ku1HdJkstvUFYULfSzHm5Et59eb9gP9b+XR7/11HFuFFEGtWHrrjP++HMV4D8Zo zXytxM1B+7OrQ== Subject: [Fot] Triumph TR3 Sonoma Raceway Race One Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, Here is a link to the race one video. Please enjoy, Dave H. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzskerwLZwg _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 05:32:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B978A2584AE8 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 05:32:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1bon0117.outbound.protection.outlook.com [157.56.111.117]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686472580B46 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 05:31:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.255.189.16) by BLUPR04MB854.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.255.189.150) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1049.19; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 11:34:47 +0000 Received: from BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.189.16]) by BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.189.16]) with mapi id 15.00.1049.012; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 11:34:47 +0000 From: Michael Moore To: "fot@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: TR4 Differential Oil Seal Thread-Index: Ac/non7ASa/MkxzxSlyCezEHNWSe/A== Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 11:34:47 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [24.165.139.19] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BLUPR04MB854; x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:; x-forefront-prvs: 03648EFF89 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(199003)(189002)(19580405001)(74316001)(64706001)(66066001)(19580395003)(15975445006)(31966008)(20776003)(558084003)(92566001)(85306004)(87936001)(85852003)(46102003)(80022003)(101416001)(19625215002)(19613025002)(50986999)(54356999)(99936001)(2656002)(15202345003)(122556002)(19300405004)(106356001)(2501002)(105586002)(76576001)(97736003)(99286002)(95666004)(16236675004)(17760045003)(108616004)(33646002)(120916001)(40100003)(21056001)(2351001)(107886001)(107046002)(229853001)(99396003)(19627405001)(110136001)(86362001)(4396001)(19627595001)(18206015026)(76482002)(24736002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BLUPR04MB854; H:BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:0; MX:1; LANG:en; Subject: [Fot] TR4 Differential Oil Seal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Is there a source out there to find a better quality seal for driveshaft flange? Mine are leaking in my street and race car and have not been in that long. Thanks Mike 62 TR4, Race car 63 TR4, Street car Mike & Becky Moore 6050 Ruhl Road Fairview, PA 16415 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 06:44:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472B52584C09 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 06:44:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm35.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm35.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.28]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30022584BBA for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 06:41:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm35.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Oct 2014 12:45:04 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm35.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Oct 2014 12:42:20 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.158] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Oct 2014 12:42:20 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.142] by tm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Oct 2014 12:42:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1018.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Oct 2014 12:42:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 56798 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Oct 2014 12:42:19 -0000 s=s1024; t=1413290539; bh=wpvvuL2b1bf105UVmeKSEoEvS8zzG6mrWLyXXfr1QPI=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RhZlpJbjqzi9GvSydD8yzYUjayQrYg/OM7koC2ovgjhZAonuqBsTIP1y8vGuk6WQh7TjNd9M7QclSP5Tr8mOV06cLAhg155Uc/rl4xpEtxfYTytcFNY0xsETjlGg20CoHomIAT4CgFwr1Vg9ZT0zXIR+xMC3PjPNHFSm2OFEENM= Uqi5YcmR970QHZysp3h.xnrDmjGUOmWii0Kxw06YfdBAHl0N3YypqeJnqDSy 0d0HoUsk.5dis2iEmttKse9sbFJgeCc6l0Fy8nXadpYi4H_KJI1TbGsECpJV 2YTwpwL6ST80QaHP7d.UcsXKcQNiGsVBEhbuwKPNWv0MVwKNAbSWY_j3Hnbw U8VGUuFA5BCETKazYAfImwnbdCC4h_DtPXRNy9Ag4PIlgDoEahEca2lwTKj2 8YC01235CCKc0bQ3aaICYFkJusWxQ1WcoE.aNJkQdDXHawq7QGGDFTWtrrol jNen2hqXcnNj9PL1tCwOehKK8MorpnN7w861.aZ.v9xkSCDR4oEsRKaLT5HS k.Ps_HjcrF12sVhYFSUgesEBSoZ9Dhsjjp2B_R730g.dFQMby49GBOeMjFDN Fwm7PX40iZgheVthRIAzy.maQagBpw63IP8BO44.EDLz4fDImMLIkwkGMhts 0lfDu_.jwm.cQ27Xc9i0kx8_JEDBWkPiSV5GHdJdw8sGkD3R0tS2Ek6aJz5E WWzyRTHkTxLXKFsrn5gMR4xJtkhcc.VVURSN9ZEICQCskuVddEWxTscTSSmn sUb_yFqGwKpjHDz1igH2rLyN7JPSXJkDjcA-- Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web184705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 05:42:19 PDT TWlrZToKSSBoYXZlIG5vdCBoYWQgYSBwcm9ibGVtIHdpdGggYW55IG9mIHRoZSBtb2Rlcm4gc2VhbHMgb2ZmZXJlZCBieSB0aGUgYmlnIHRocmVlLCBidXQgSSBhbG1vc3QgYWx3YXlzICg5NSUpIGluc3RhbGwgYSBTcGVlZGktU2xlZXZlIG9uIHRoZSBmbGFuZ2UuIFRoaXMgZ29lcyBub3Qgb25seSBvbiBkaWZmcyBidXQgYWxzbyB0cmFubnkgb3V0cHV0cywgZnJvbnQgcHVsbGV5cywgYW5kIGV2ZW4gc29tZSByZWFyIGNyYW5rIHNlYWxpbmcgc3VyZmFjZXMuIEV2ZW4gdGhlIG5ld2VzdCBvZiB0aGVzZSBpdGUBMAEBAQE- References: <52801602d21c4af99539716ed22d18c6@BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 05:42:19 -0700 From: EDWARD BARNARD To: Michael Moore , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Differential Oil Seal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mike: I have not had a problem with any of the modern seals offered by the big three, but I almost always (95%) install a Speedi-Sleeve on the flange. This goes not only on diffs but also tranny outputs, front pulleys, and even some rear crank sealing surfaces. Even the newest of these items are now over thirty years old the grooves cut into them from previous seals are getting too big to ignore. I just finished a Mayflower diff that would have leaked just as bad as before if I hadn't insisted to the customer that it needed a sleeve. They gasp at the added expense ($45) but I wouldn't warranty it without the sleeve. -Ed- On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 6:34 AM, Michael Moore wrote: Is there a source out there to find a better quality seal for driveshaft flange? Mine are leaking in my street and race car and have not been in that long. Thanks Mike 62 TR4, Race car 63 TR4, Street car Mike & Becky Moore 6050 Ruhl Road Fairview, PA 16415 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 08:14:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85962584CBF for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:14:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m2.mx.aol.com (omr-m2.mx.aol.com [64.12.133.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84EB72584BFC for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:08:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aaj02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aaj02.mx.aol.com [172.27.3.208]) by omr-m2.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 5053F38000061 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:11:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mla005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mla005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.186.83]) by mtaomg-aaj02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C0E293800008D for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:11:39 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:11:39 -0400 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1413295900; bh=APpNnnv7EZFRG/RHzXMD1COqNbLBSZ1cZwTInKqGQW0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mRMiruoMECrEy2yGs3WnETW3AhfY3DOGd7L+Zl+MrYKSQO60MzI6TO+9ki5V+5yKU FYSyVBDoY7u1Ar+TIZruMe+32j1Uo7NUn5mUyg6DESDkW8J8IoL8IGxhWLJnhd3VzF k52iaAjB/7iXLE7bElrU1DUgOhoejQu91N0bB9yQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b03d0543d2f1b1704 Subject: [Fot] Bob Wismer's Services... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici... After a fourteen month battle with lung cancer, there is a certain and blessed relief that comes with a loved one's passing, but then...there really is no Good Time to Die. Bob Wismer's memorial Visitation on Sunday in Moline was well attended by the racing community, both vintage and Midwestern Council. The funeral parlor was awash with racing bits and pieces. The family put a lot of work into what was displayed. In particular there was an old TR4 bonnet hanging, with lots of racing pictures applied. There was an old roll bar piece from the Thunderbolt full of decals. On the floor were there was a broken brake rotor, a busted clutch plate, part of a trashed cylinder head, a crunched input shaft, and other important trophies from Bob's racing career. The service and burial yesterday was also well attended and very moving. Bob Wismer had been cremated, his ashes were buried in the family's cemetery plat. I made a comment at the graveside service that it was a pity that some of Bob's ashes did not make it up to Road America to be deposited at his 'granite monument.' Daughter Pam looked at me, winked and said, "That's gonna happen!" Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 08:14:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 505BD2584D83 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:14:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f170.google.com (mail-ig0-f170.google.com [209.85.213.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF42F2584BFC for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:09:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f170.google.com with SMTP id hn15so17506236igb.1 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 07:12:49 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=2+WWDUnmhW/jPiUZK0dmaV69bLtk47tnycNCl5EHA7c=; b=sJfXdarF3Oa+6HwTcONao2BpdCRKYBn1uQBhzLZQi8Lgwr3Bg975SyJFJFuUaFOsU9 OkneowyhelgXb4HF3b9W96jAsG64Y7v9xDKoz6zpKMXRTtp6qojqS54X7ZB33ShSJfnu YP4meDE5RB6cjvIkt6h5DkoC4MAnnyKDj/8zE8gxUSVhG2vMVeGouO584QG6UL3dgtpI 1+WvjWgdS4wIqdN907M8YJ6NMYHuokLbiIx970fYBHrQ8SHUWkPe7OuVxWTu7m8pGyUc oGq7Uy7ziXNOnJ3TKXGQz6lpU7Z4t48axw/dSoNXynQo7LGf1PMZSRDb/sGUBkr6K9fp Jv2Q== x17mr2229888icm.85.1413295969309; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 07:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.60.144 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 07:12:49 -0700 (PDT) References: <649774C1-335A-4CBA-8C09-D3D074997AF5@mi.rr.com> <54370771.041b450a.0ccf.6834SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:12:49 -0400 From: John Styduhar To: Tony Drews Cc: FOT List Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Intake / Exhaust manifold mating surfaces to head---THANKS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The latest model of bare TR2-4 cylinder heads with casting 11695 and 1 1/2 intake ports at the face (cleaned and manafluxed) are available from Team Triumph in Warren, OH. Give Scott Harper a call at 303-392-7176. On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > A little more on port matching - what Jack found working on the flow bench > is that if you open up the intake runner ID too quickly you kill the flow > through the manifold. The air delaminates from the surface and becomes > turbulent. You need to keep the change in ID to under 7 degrees of taper. > Also, look at the port in the head - some of them had a ball mill shoved in > for a short distance and the inner port diameter is much smaller. In that > case you may be better off adding epoxy to the port in the head to make it > more of a straight shot. > > He also found that a step from smaller diameter to larger diameter in the > direction of flow wasn't very harmful to overall flow. > http://www.tonydrews.com/uncle_jacks_engine_building_tips.htm#Head > > Tony Drews > > > At 04:06 PM 10/8/2014, John Styduhar wrote: > >> You should read what Kas has to say in his prep manual.. He recommends >> port matching. >> >> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Dan Cronin wrote: >> >> > 10/8 >> > Thanks to all who took the time to read my query and respond. Very >> > interesting variety of thought on wether or not matching the ports is a >> big >> > deal --- or not (as long as the gas / exhaust flows from smaller to >> larger >> > bores). >> > Dan >> > >> > On Oct 7, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Dan wrote: >> > >> > I am preparing my TR4a head to accept the intake and exhaust manifolds >> and >> > there seems to be a rather significant difference in the diameters >> between >> > the >> > intake ports of the head (1-1/2" dia.) and the intake manifold (1-3/8 to >> > 1-7/16" dia.). In addition, the two mating gaskets I measured come in >> with >> > a >> > dia. of 1-23/32nd, just under 1-3/4". The literature I have consulted >> > recommends that the intake ports of the head and the manifold match up >> > perfectly including the dia. of the mating gaskets. Not so critical on >> the >> > exhaust as a "notch" to the upside on the exhaust port apparently aids >> in >> > extracting gases. What have you all found in your engine building >> > experiences? I could carefully enlarge the intake ports to match the >> head, >> > but the remaining intake (TR4a long runner) shell would need to be a >> > opened >> > up around 7/32nds thereby perhaps weakening the runners? Thoughts? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 10:34:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C202584CC3 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:34:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m05.mx.aol.com (omr-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38FDC25803CC for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:33:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aak02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aak02.mx.aol.com [172.27.2.228]) by omr-m05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 3873570325CEB; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:36:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-lga07a.mail.aol.com (core-lga07.mail.aol.com [10.76.11.7]) by mtaomg-aak02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 5AD6638000084; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:36:58 -0400 (EDT) References: <52801602d21c4af99539716ed22d18c6@BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> To: mmoore@mtmcpafirm.com, fot@autox.team.net From: fubog1 Received: from 98.77.33.233 by webmail-va015.sysops.aol.com (149.174.101.112) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:36:58 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:36:58 -0400 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1413304619; bh=vlETdW8OS2hU6potHN4sJOhUnybSbqSzM+HzXtj4uJ4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PLvqpB/Sao36HTFxbCMmeJ3U/5ZOLIHkQYbpGQIhR7ZVHzLbTz1JF9kRaj2WKosCO 0hFA7sHqYwxtn9HgojGL9QBxCYddn8KnhIAfB/3WZThGLbLON0jP9otjV9MgKQGSX4 +p9U1qjDT1OwQCzfEprJh7up3A7KN8pgOMaZcIDY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b02e4543d512a0bc3 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Differential Oil Seal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You will sometimes find that it is not the seal that's leaking, but the oil getting by the splines and leaking out at the front of the flange around the nut/washer; it's usually the seal though, or a grooved seal journal as Ed points out. Also make sure the RAX, housing is vented. Glen -----Original Message----- From: Michael Moore To: fot Sent: Tue, Oct 14, 2014 12:24 pm Subject: [Fot] TR4 Differential Oil Seal Is there a source out there to find a better quality seal for driveshaft flange? Mine are leaking in my street and race car and have not been in that long. Thanks Mike 62 TR4, Race car 63 TR4, Street car Mike & Becky Moore 6050 Ruhl Road Fairview, PA 16415 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 11:15:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E932584B98 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 11:15:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (isis.mit.edu [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2D22580980 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 11:14:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s9EHIApC025516; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 13:18:10 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 13:18:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: fot@autox.team.net References: <52801602d21c4af99539716ed22d18c6@BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> <8D1B5E4350E7044-1448-1E425@webmail-va015.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Differential Oil Seal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fugog writes: Also make sure the RAX, housing is vented. WORD. rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 14:44:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7222580B91 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:44:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa12-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa12-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.235]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C650B25802EE for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:42:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from munsonbPC ([24.114.45.17]) by p3plsmtpa12-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id 38lJ1p00A0NED3L018lJjk; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 13:45:20 -0700 From: "Barry Munson" To: "'FOT'" Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:45:17 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac/n5M4PsS/riRo8Qa+W8ZFFZ4A7xwAAdX8Q Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] FW: Understanding Differentials Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici - I came across the following list of references on the functioning of the various types of differentials. I took it from an article that was prepared for Ross Bentley's Speed Weeks by Jeff Braun. I refer you specifically to the second article "Understanding Differentials" by Craig Taylor which is really excellent in explaining how the various types of differentials function, their weaknesses and benefits in a racing application, however what I found most interesting was his suggestions on the car's setup to take advantage of the benefits of the particular differential installed and to deal with its limitations. During the construction phase on the TR3, I recalled reading a discussion by Jack Drews in which he made the point that as he removed bars from the rear of the his TR4 it became quicker. This really intrigued me as I tried to understand the logic of what was happening - I know there are lots of variables to consider here. With due consideration to Jack's comments, for the TR3 I chose a 7/8 inch front bar (Greg Solow), TR6 front competition coil springs (Ted S.), competition rear leaf spring (Rimmer), TR6 upper and lower control arms, uprights and trunions - all mounted on a TR6 competition bushing kit (Goodparts), adjustable front Gaz shocks, fully adjustable rear lever shocks ( Peter Caldwell), a Quaife LSD and NO rear anti-roll bar. In this configuration the TR3 is very neutral on corner entry (fast or tight corners), mid turn and exit traction - with the power currently available. Having never raced it in the rain I am not sure how it will perform, however, if performance on gravel is any indication I'll be dealing with a significant amount of oversteer. Barry. . . Wikipedia: Basics of a differential " . Understanding Differentials " - a great article by a good friend, Craig Taylor * Fantastic animation video of a Limited Slip Differential * Very good animation video of ramp-style differential - Jeff Braun _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 15:29:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BAB52584E44 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 15:29:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f54.google.com (mail-pa0-f54.google.com [209.85.220.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CC4C258084B for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 15:28:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id ey11so8699303pad.13 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:31:24 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=W3cx/Ep01R8fZHoRx24ZcGPl7qzp0qYt42VDzjY9+FE=; b=AvVpJSLqfJxRAyQFbw0Z1KhL8aUUjhECkjEUMxgEFBlebyLGM7xfBOxyp6lh/G86ar XMyLuizjSz5tkvTsBga6/OZjlBNKB1YBg4+eKcmih5JzITda29I7/bQuhW/NKO1QAbot 2b2+kQYx/Y59anLQWQdvGMm24qPaAXcTdGp71/jqnxHnmaBSO2AQSHzL4cXOTHgFduqj fFN9kNb5G6L6THSHO3f2eHUXFWcK6YzoWmpqCa6EP/5VrP7oxMHhap/r3JJXhEequirj QOYkuwLIfQafsb7up4PUNJWHhrj9O87bnEv52yt1QCSV9mvnmDAo0NfIdxECGYemRzK4 9IPw== dp6mr7484225pac.101.1413322282475; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:31:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.84.41 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:30:41 -0700 (PDT) References: <000d01cfe7ef$c4fba5a0$4ef2f0e0$@ca> From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:30:41 -0700 To: Barry Munson Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] FW: Understanding Differentials Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Barry, very informative. If one uses the Goodparts diff kit with Nissan/Infinity diff, one gets a viscous limited slip. Sam H mentioned to me that thes tend not to be good for longer races as the silicon heats up and has less damping effect -- at least that is what I think he meant. Chuck On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Barry Munson wrote: > Amici - I came across the following list of references on the functioning > of > the various types of differentials. I took it from an article that was > prepared for Ross Bentley's Speed Weeks by Jeff Braun. I refer you > specifically to the second article "Understanding Differentials" by Craig > Taylor which is really excellent in explaining how the various types of > differentials function, their weaknesses and benefits in a racing > application, however what I found most interesting was his suggestions on > the car's setup to take advantage of the benefits of the particular > differential installed and to deal with its limitations. During the > construction phase on the TR3, I recalled reading a discussion by Jack > Drews > in which he made the point that as he removed bars from the rear of the his > TR4 it became quicker. This really intrigued me as I tried to understand > the > logic of what was happening - I know there are lots of variables to > consider > here. > > With due consideration to Jack's comments, for the TR3 I chose a 7/8 inch > front bar (Greg Solow), TR6 front competition coil springs (Ted S.), > competition rear leaf spring (Rimmer), TR6 upper and lower control arms, > uprights and trunions - all mounted on a TR6 competition bushing kit > (Goodparts), adjustable front Gaz shocks, fully adjustable rear lever > shocks > ( Peter Caldwell), a Quaife LSD and NO rear anti-roll bar. In this > configuration the TR3 is very neutral on corner entry (fast or tight > corners), mid turn and exit traction - with the power currently available. > Having never raced it in the rain I am not sure how it will perform, > however, if performance on gravel is any indication I'll be dealing with a > significant amount of oversteer. > > > > > Barry. > > > . > > . Wikipedia: > < > http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=2KkWpZ&m=3VPQ4meZ7sHFWQS&b=id9_s3bbm8hmq5e > RK2b1JQ> Basics of a differential > < > http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=2KkWpZ&m=3VPQ4meZ7sHFWQS&b=Z5gZzeTMu4e3Xrr > KZbO1aQ> " > > . Understanding Differentials > < > http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=2KkWpZ&m=3VPQ4meZ7sHFWQS&b=Z5gZzeTMu4e3Xrr > KZbO1aQ> " - a great article by a good friend, Craig Taylor > > * > < > http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=2KkWpZ&m=3VPQ4meZ7sHFWQS&b=BrI370KigBrcWo7 > .Ouf86Q> Fantastic animation video of a Limited Slip Differential > * > < > http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=2KkWpZ&m=3VPQ4meZ7sHFWQS&b=yxFrqdMfJ7Nv9S > . > wPEUwdg> Very good animation video of ramp-style differential > > - Jeff Braun > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triosan@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 15:48:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A51B82584E44 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 15:48:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.166]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B9425804C0 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 15:48:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.226]) by resqmta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 39rU1p0014tLnxL019rlZL; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 21:51:45 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.4] ([50.184.84.92]) by resomta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 39rk1p0071zXZLq019rkXr; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 21:51:45 +0000 From: Dave Hogye Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:51:43 -0700 To: Friends of Friends of Triumph s=q20140121; t=1413323505; bh=Ecv+avDItfGS18A4HlInzJVDiY9e1ClCfbXbGTtfFIU=; h=Received:Received:From:Content-Type:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To: Mime-Version; b=r8DQEUIA++RLim0iSRIntOmgfWJVHCU7PWnbg+LNN2Hf0eEMR9Gnynv1on05zNg6U o2gaa/TMYFKPwmk2ssEAg7CV28BICCN1gjuDyI+rgRuHtODBsHnhzjNUGrwKI6rhwE sfCCcdK3iUdZ8cK1znpNcHMHb3xp1XX+uO1ZcI59WxD9oGKZrT0hdP+M4QzS0XRC1o hz/l/amdYChS9uArtaL9JyecCXFiN5riA3cB7FVzHtnLLf+TiKZfrffquseON9ZqJC K3RcEK7tfm3cAJUKD4B0RKLIc+G8AGhwlkohN0jzvDgXF/QsrvSiwX8TQZnKgmYsk3 uFCSUS+ktdp3g== Subject: [Fot] Triumph TR3 Sonoma Raceway Group 1 Race 2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, Here is a link to the race 2 video. I was about a second off my race 1 times and got a little swamped, starting 5th and finishing 10th. Still experienced some close racing and finished the weekend clean. Please enjoy, Dave H. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VLSBCQMWGs _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 19:05:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E8A2584494 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 19:05:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40DA72580972 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 19:05:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D712C013C for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 19:08:51 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 19:08:50 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <9baae.7175686c.416e891a@aol.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Bob Wismer's Services... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > The service and burial yesterday was also well attended and very moving. > Bob Wismer had been cremated, his ashes were buried in the family's cemetery > plat. I made a comment at the graveside service that it was a pity that > some of Bob's ashes did not make it up to Road America to be deposited at his > 'granite monument.' Daughter Pam looked at me, winked and said, "That's > gonna happen!" It is a good thing I am such a cold hearted bastard, otherwise my eyes might have teared up a bit reading this. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 19:34:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5186C25844CB for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 19:34:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f177.google.com (mail-wi0-f177.google.com [209.85.212.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C0BE2580972 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 19:33:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f177.google.com with SMTP id fb4so590084wid.4 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 18:37:06 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nnn4HyfBBFiEHU9Kv+qrWstQsbKZKNkC4RQLPpYOQW4=; b=mxvr70ty+1fcNOKq2JVMyD9VYKSsK7tSJ58Qzo6+eoN3vcDqW6jY18GrHI91J4TCAa 8VP/XV0hU6sW/3mjODouUmZC9LYBAoon9GsQ/8QSCdurQcGa7Z+SCdbWeWIsknjSrgbk 5Nnm61yp8c1wOwGZ1yXvP1pSFVkkXyJs1bjNGiQLUJflL1GbTaymXKDBdfZMDbcHvg7C ZESr0q6g/RDUw7u0/hbegFNEcM6B88MCdEyOPX00nCTuaSqrct6PHg7pJ0cHkwnZH1LG r/crfleVgpMv4xySFG7mW3qn/U6A9vwxj4HtoD08LbEkD0R8CV0iCOpSwmNS/upPZZo4 0N8g== Tue, 14 Oct 2014 18:37:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.18.228 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 18:37:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 20:37:06 -0500 From: McKearn McKearn To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi all. I enjoy watching the racing videos that get posted on this site. However I'm really longing for something with a six cylinder engine note. Does anyone have some TR6 or GT6 race video you would be willing to post?? Thanks. P,J, _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 20:16:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D9C9258454D for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 20:16:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.160]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D296125809E2 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 20:11:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-19v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.243]) by resqmta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 3EEP1p0035FMDhs01EEyNT; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 02:14:58 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-162v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.48.196]) by resomta-po-19v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 3ECy1p0014DyWjm01ECyXW; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 02:12:58 +0000 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 02:12:57 +0000 (UTC) From: cudapilot@comcast.net To: McKearn McKearn References: (Win)/8.0.3_GA_5664) Thread-Topic: 6 cylinder race videos Thread-Index: 42Y0nEC/BHMRdE9HAzYhEb/fedceNw== s=q20140121; t=1413339298; bh=GwaBLyOD8ZiDV3dA2P1e9T9pnxTfbP5o+J8FFCM5YUM=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=rzUjAgIZV+7IcleAhl0vvVuWLjie+/kMU3pLrnKEAZYNjD8W8QPCtgVQHIkUFsegN 27PNWVPNMCtrt9OCzTSX6Z43QBPgriJbcb4L9t0WL+tM8X5p7Yfw9mo2FaU+OdspKM XjVIucccpoFpHQhqXO9o7/powqMWeSP0SgaMO9Kytd3nt5uVsFqKVAp3IlrDwsVB5b jDZSSn9nBPPUxVVJhWmGBFWZg7GlSi0WFbuDfToIfXfBvDbEK+WTWeefN2yikNnKS6 wrwbFZy0UTqYN2hUdhurqPejL+RWgJsQpWUCXkj1dO9ttiNj64mPjOIqOSS7CKPcMa HALMgByLoqXlQ== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Both of the Friendly Ghost Racing GT6+.B The first is from the Mitty in 2012.B The second is from Grattan this year.B Lost some video quality on the upload of the second and haven't had time to go back and fix it.B Hope to have more up in a few weeks after the season is over.B Jason is driving in both - B http://youtu.be/VMA0T4nflGk B http://youtu.be/M989QKOBrb8 B Brian Garcia Friendly Ghost Racing ----- Original Message ----- From: "McKearn McKearn" To: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 8:37:06 PM Subject: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos Hi all. B B I enjoy watching the racing videos that get posted on this site. However I'm really longing for something with a six cylinder engine note. Does anyone have some TR6 or GT6 race video you would be willing to post?? B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B Thanks. B P,J, _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cudapilot@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 21:08:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EFFB258452C for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 21:08:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-11v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-11v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0602580BAE for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 21:08:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-18v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.242]) by resqmta-po-11v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 3FBG1p0015E3ZMc01FBJWf; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 03:11:18 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-503v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.178.3]) by resomta-po-18v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 3F9J1p00L04nC6y01F9JpL; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 03:09:18 +0000 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 03:09:18 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: cudapilot@comcast.net References: <1737088327.8509415.1413339177788.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Thread-Topic: 6 cylinder race videos Thread-Index: 42Y0nEC/BHMRdE9HAzYhEb/fedceN3FWF14Z s=q20140121; t=1413342678; bh=q/KXEgbXybqJPXiyLC75X6x7la67q4tYkIWCpwvgudk=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=JzP2tilIBxCZ8yO1gK2fxy/kkN/WdEin0yuwFgvrQpyihl4VOyTkU01xS8ga1marG BBSSv7MFUSpcbmspfxa/4MXQYxkKuty6PMYOql6ts1/sOElUv7pSRRpBHHcp16My/3 PtGksL7K8x4vDHEKX+5b6TPJFqJoPGKlr60f/JicVJFrfMXATWkmW0WRUpEiugBCsw VQiy9hJyuOndIovn7wEGlG8UR4201rbCh6wBDmBd9pYzPpo+U/SXJllu1rA8Rgarut qF4Yn19bcgap/hqD4Bratfi5zTOkGbuk6nwNMHeOBCAWhsUK0+XX0VauUdfDLauhTL wP4OazYDHm3KQ== Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks... regarding both videos. Watching Jason driving in the KCup at Atlanta was great to watch again. The GT6s do sound great. Cool footage. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: cudapilot@comcast.net To: "McKearn McKearn" Cc: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:12:57 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos Both of the Friendly Ghost Racing GT6+.B The first is from the Mitty in 2012.B The second is from Grattan this year.B Lost some video quality on the upload of the second and haven't had time to go back and fix it.B Hope to have more up in a few weeks after the season is over.B Jason is driving in both - B http://youtu.be/VMA0T4nflGk B http://youtu.be/M989QKOBrb8 B Brian Garcia Friendly Ghost Racing ----- Original Message ----- From: "McKearn McKearn" To: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 8:37:06 PM Subject: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos Hi all. B B I enjoy watching the racing videos that get posted on this site. However I'm really longing for something with a six cylinder engine note. Does anyone have some TR6 or GT6 race video you would be willing to post?? B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B Thanks. B P,J, _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cudapilot@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 22:01:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D7B2584EB2 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 22:01:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EEB2580882 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 21:54:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B18C2C013C for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 21:57:32 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 21:57:32 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: fot@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net McKearn McKearn wrote: > Hi all. > > I'm really longing for something with a six cylinder engine note. At the Asheville VTR convention J. K. Jackson had his autocross car, a TR6. It was sort of a damp and cloudy day, sounds seemed to get trapped under the sky. When he came down the hill heading for the finish line, I could swear he had that motor spinning at about 12 grand. What a sound! mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 14 23:01:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C412584FA2 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 23:01:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy5-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy5-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.38.55]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 07B302584ED0 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 22:54:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 20876 invoked by uid 0); 15 Oct 2014 04:57:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw3) (10.0.90.84) by gproxy5.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 15 Oct 2014 04:57:36 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw3 with id 3NxW1p00b1NzpT901NxZ8C; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 04:57:35 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=yKqyAkVeGwwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=uu-hDLI3AAAA:20 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=UArX9aBXy-p3RGaXzrEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=E3LtK94QmHYA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=59153 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XeGeR-0004nm-Kk; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 22:57:31 -0600 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 23:57:26 -0500 To: McKearn McKearn ,fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews mail.com> References: {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Here's Sam Halkias's video from last year's Kas Cup at Road America (TR-6): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFCMXQ9idOA&feature=youtu.be I thought it was awesome to watch. Tony Drews At 08:37 PM 10/14/2014, McKearn McKearn wrote: >Hi all. > I enjoy watching the racing videos that get posted on this site. However >I'm really longing for something with a six cylinder engine note. Does >anyone have some TR6 or GT6 race video you would be willing to post?? > Thanks. P,J, >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 00:01:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 705912580BB0 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 00:01:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.160]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14F22580BB0 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 23:54:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-19v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.243]) by resqmta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 3HxZ1p0015FMDhs01HxZtp; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 05:57:33 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-503v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.178.3]) by resomta-po-19v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 3HvZ1p00104nC6y01HvZgb; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 05:55:33 +0000 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 05:55:32 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: "Drews, Tony" References: <20141015050126.DDA2E2584F63@autox.team.net> Thread-Topic: 6 cylinder race videos Thread-Index: F9cJEokWRN43X3jReVpGCRFVmA0f7g== s=q20140121; t=1413352653; bh=wNn20ApASCRN9wGF2WkI6osQfQv+oYMVg/lGBUKEUF4=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=kBOnoFmGVbGm/777UlQR2P+LcCzVP9/MPjfNW+NxfYWs//bGYbYibd6iCR1eSduMR AVELu5CGs8b/kJBz7BeaRDdbwir1rbt52n2QPMG5vK9yK/yn8FGH3oYzqL+l+HblVS DH/eQuVlotxX8CgCA9bhDFRPMtZdhsomFOXwdhWC9hm7WC5c2Uaz0ZLH/fjtKTnlQ2 xARsHWccm+KD46kcT2/G7g1R1w2YViHFlpG9/RL0f0H8Zw2fsIfpG9LegSX8OoGwOn 99BT6znnKqNwznUW3PQpzWJrsoqErK910WnjY1Qzu6/i1vjT14BmOzqlHt1l5PDv+S BFtTwpnsKrmsg== Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wow, I needed to be reminded of that vid too. I was going to say, we need to hear one of Sam's engines. Thanks Tony. What an amazing field of cars and drivers for that year's Kastner Cup race. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drews, Tony" To: "McKearn McKearn" , "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 9:57:26 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos Here's Sam Halkias's video from last year's Kas Cup at Road America (TR-6): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFCMXQ9idOA&feature=youtu.be I thought it was awesome to watch. Tony Drews At 08:37 PM 10/14/2014, McKearn McKearn wrote: >Hi all. > I enjoy watching the racing videos that get posted on this site. However >I'm really longing for something with a six cylinder engine note. Does >anyone have some TR6 or GT6 race video you would be willing to post?? > Thanks. P,J, >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 02:01:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360602584FD6 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 02:01:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f176.google.com (mail-lb0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B7372580092 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 02:00:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f176.google.com with SMTP id p9so561508lbv.35 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 01:03:18 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=KmZLlO7l/Jh182wvovuTrXu7JW6qlwjDCSXn8G0D64g=; b=D9HXNQ9qERCy/OEHVDazLqVRzQMORRijozOqFaWI14XSZD8nUF72Le/ba5eLR5TXUL UE1qvmJkld5l320dg7jVYS7CO1ItHyy1SXvJ7t/8t3OD2okIwFN7ODxdxSDOgc0lQm2K 5N5xoPka4SNDm+grXijyQZmalTt36o6EfNY+1/LKSHQtgQh8K94rhruGMxLvXtJLFrjw 5Imqzlze7NAg7S0w8LFei35jQ4R2yW9KYBOREplj7p4uK75GtYTEv5HlzQmQF2xmXPyt RLcl/+543myMCJKNegHQ/GGLuwykKide1Pavi0BNF507fjnZ5mn7LzzNoC9w0WMgRkO/ NvGg== Wed, 15 Oct 2014 01:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.173.68.120]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ro7sm6450180lbb.14.2014.10.15.01.03.16 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 15 Oct 2014 01:03:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <20141015050121.8FDEB2584F51@autox.team.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 10:03:19 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac/oNYNAWUDr7MkvQYy3ztNoiQVsdAAGOKZw Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The most amazing part of that video is the shifting. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Tony Drews Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Oktober 2014 06:57 An: McKearn McKearn; fot@autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos Here's Sam Halkias's video from last year's Kas Cup at Road America (TR-6): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFCMXQ9idOA&feature=youtu.be I thought it was awesome to watch. Tony Drews At 08:37 PM 10/14/2014, McKearn McKearn wrote: >Hi all. > I enjoy watching the racing videos that get posted on this site. >However I'm really longing for something with a six cylinder engine >note. Does anyone have some TR6 or GT6 race video you would be willing to post?? > Thanks. P,J, >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 06:37:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28D92584999 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 06:37:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail71c28.carrierzone.com (mail71c28.carrierzone.com [66.175.52.156]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F051225809FA for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 06:37:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail71c28.carrierzone.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail71c28.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id s9FCeD2P017075 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 15 Oct 2014 12:40:13 +0000 Received: (from webmail@localhost) by mail71c28.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.12.2/Submit) id s9FCeCVk017068; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 12:40:12 +0000 Received: from d-128-235-182.bootp.Virginia.EDU (d-128-235-182.bootp.Virginia.EDU [128.143.235.182]) by webmail.lumos.net (Webmail 5.0 V.V.I.) with HTTP for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:40:12 -0400 From: "=?utf-8?b?Ui4gSm9obiBMeWU=?=" To: fot@autox.team.net, Mark J Bradakis Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:40:12 -0400 References: <543DF0AC.5090807@bradakis.com> User-Agent: Webmail 6.0 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I remember that autocross very well.B That was a fun day, although Vicky Schlierer probably didn't enjoy it very much.B J.K.'s TR-6 did sound spectacular that day.B In fact, it was largely because of that sound that I had him build me a gearbox like his. John On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 21:57:32 -0600, Mark J Bradakis wrote: McKearn McKearn wrote: > > Hi all. > > > > I'm really longing for something with a six cylinder engine note. > > At the Asheville VTR convention J. K. Jackson had his autocross car, > a TR6. It was sort of > a damp and cloudy day, sounds seemed to get trapped under the sky. > When he came down the hill > heading for the finish line, I could swear he had that motor spinning > at about 12 grand. > What a sound! > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com > > > -- Thanks, John rjl@gt-classics.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 07:47:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 305B72585161 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 07:47:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (smtpauth04a.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.160]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94FC32584ACC for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 07:43:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Charly (unknown [63.228.115.77]) (Authenticated sender: charly@mitchelplumbing.com) by smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D275F5D806C; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:46:35 -0500 (CDT) From: "Charly Mitchel" To: "McKearn McKearn" , References: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 06:46:32 -0700 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Check out charlypm44 on you tube Charly Mitchel TR6#44 ----- Original Message ----- From: "McKearn McKearn" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 6:37 PM Subject: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos > Hi all. > I enjoy watching the racing videos that get posted on this site. However > I'm really longing for something with a six cylinder engine note. Does > anyone have some TR6 or GT6 race video you would be willing to post?? > Thanks. P,J, > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 08:17:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12EAB2585213 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:17:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (isis.mit.edu [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D360F2585110 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:11:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s9FEEx2f030931; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 10:14:59 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 10:14:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: =?utf-8?b?Ui4gSm9obiBMeWU=?= References: <543DF0AC.5090807@bradakis.com> <20141015084012.2j8vmxj2f808ckcw@webmail.lumos.net> Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net THREADJACK WARNING... I am next to positive that I have video of JK at that event and I def. have video of Vicky's "event". Hearing JK's car and then talking to him at the VTR car show convinced me to build Khartu. c ya, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, [utf-8] R. John Lye wrote: > I remember that autocross very well.B That was a fun day, although > Vicky Schlierer probably didn't enjoy it very much.B J.K.'s TR-6 > did sound spectacular that day.B In fact, it was largely because > of that sound that I had him build me a gearbox like his. > > John _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 12:18:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8020A2584E9A for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 12:18:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m1.mx.aol.com (omr-m1.mx.aol.com [64.12.224.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737102580550 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 12:17:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aaj01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aaj01.mx.aol.com [172.27.3.207]) by omr-m1.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 053A138000051; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 14:20:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-lga07a.mail.aol.com (core-lga07.mail.aol.com [10.76.11.7]) by mtaomg-aaj01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 239B73800008E; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 14:20:25 -0400 (EDT) References: <543DF0AC.5090807@bradakis.com> To: mark@bradakis.com, fot@autox.team.net From: fubog1 Received: from 98.77.33.233 by webmail-vm180.sysops.aol.com (149.174.158.118) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 15 Oct 2014 14:20:24 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 14:20:25 -0400 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1413397225; bh=UyRE7ookhbCGJDhLqBeUUDIvVP56JHN+OajHuN0Emxw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=POotLHWsft1ayPAEDBX0h6CBExcuCNwApA/kjru4z+UWEGVLIc1bNa+uFxfJwGhV0 ed9SY2yVmi4H2vwPtpCNa8m0IrUyeROlVzXrSzcYTFnF7LiGvcwf6x0lVh9VlLMNM4 VhmSSIoI87j/grLkV3GuAg6FcDkoOTIpt6VBSHKI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b03cf543ebae92bbb Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net uuuh.... there isn't a 6-cylinder TR on the planet that sounds quite like JKs car!!! Glen -----Original Message----- From: Mark J Bradakis To: fot Sent: Wed, Oct 15, 2014 2:14 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos McKearn McKearn wrote: > Hi all. > > I'm really longing for something with a six cylinder engine note. At the Asheville VTR convention J. K. Jackson had his autocross car, a TR6. It was sort of a damp and cloudy day, sounds seemed to get trapped under the sky. When he came down the hill heading for the finish line, I could swear he had that motor spinning at about 12 grand. What a sound! mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 13:02:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56FFF25846E0 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 13:02:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (smtpauth04a.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.160]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1896A2580041 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 12:58:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Charly (unknown [63.228.115.77]) (Authenticated sender: charly@mitchelplumbing.com) by smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4FE745D80A9; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 14:01:56 -0500 (CDT) From: "Charly Mitchel" To: , , "fubog1" References: <543DF0AC.5090807@bradakis.com> <8D1B6BBD279213C-17B4-320D0@webmail-vm180.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 12:01:52 -0700 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_R1BfQWjkE Charly Mitchel ----- Original Message ----- From: "fubog1" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos > uuuh.... there isn't a 6-cylinder TR on the planet that sounds quite like > JKs > car!!! > Glen > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark J Bradakis > > To: fot > Sent: Wed, Oct 15, 2014 2:14 > pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos > > > McKearn McKearn wrote: >> Hi > all. >> >> I'm really longing for something with a six cylinder engine note. > > At > the Asheville VTR convention J. K. Jackson had his autocross car, a TR6. > It > was sort of > a damp and cloudy day, sounds seemed to get trapped under the sky. > When he came > down the hill > heading for the finish line, I could swear he had > that motor spinning at about > 12 grand. > What a sound! > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 13:37:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE672584983 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 13:37:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m1.mx.aol.com (omr-m1.mx.aol.com [64.12.224.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC142584492 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 13:36:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mae01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mae01.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.143]) by omr-m1.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E97FB380001E7; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 15:40:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-aoa04a.mail.aol.com (core-aoa04.mail.aol.com [172.27.23.14]) by mtaomg-mae01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0330A38000086; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 15:40:06 -0400 (EDT) References: <543DF0AC.5090807@bradakis.com> <8D1B6BBD279213C-17B4-320D0@webmail-vm180.sysops.aol.com> <503FF4B8843C444ABFD76E9B2271459B@Charly> To: charly@mitchelplumbing.com, mark@bradakis.com, fot@autox.team.net, fubog1@aol.com From: Bruce Lapierre Received: from 97.94.94.34 by webmail-va213.sysops.aol.com (149.174.100.60) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 15 Oct 2014 15:40:04 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 15:40:05 -0400 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1413402006; bh=w+qL+iShBJQHhBr2kWy8BeXDDq/xGkjoU/suweQObGE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=c5KHRjcGKdJJWeBolFAdk8qxjy1dl6GZ9SLcRPrDYrB1zx5jqg+wDoyeCyy9oglqT CABNpMpMG2dv6xlgdw/auRSfxFHYlxIP6DuToIV4SNq+/kW9v3vUonB0PH80HN1Mju c6Fcxl/5mmcyPt9cqFoR0LNC5Y5imsVUUiw/GoOU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afe8f543ecd9622f4 Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Great action Sir Charles. Thanks for waving at Mike (#46) when you went by like he was standing still. -----Original Message----- From: Charly Mitchel To: mark ; fot ; fubog1 Sent: Wed, Oct 15, 2014 3:05 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_R1BfQWjkE Charly Mitchel ----- Original Message ----- From: "fubog1" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos > uuuh.... there isn't a 6-cylinder TR on the planet that sounds quite like > JKs > car!!! > Glen > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark J Bradakis > > To: fot > Sent: Wed, Oct 15, 2014 2:14 > pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos > > > McKearn McKearn wrote: >> Hi > all. >> >> I'm really longing for something with a six cylinder engine note. > > At > the Asheville VTR convention J. K. Jackson had his autocross car, a TR6. > It > was sort of > a damp and cloudy day, sounds seemed to get trapped under the sky. > When he came > down the hill > heading for the finish line, I could swear he had > that motor spinning at about > 12 grand. > What a sound! > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 15 15:23:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2486B2584FB6 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 15:23:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p02c12o142.mxlogic.net (p02c12o142.mxlogic.net [208.65.145.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E38C2580973 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 15:22:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO p02c12o142.mxlogic.net) by p02c12o142.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.2.0-0) with ESMTP id 176ee345.2b19f9441940.63875.00-595.182047.p02c12o142.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Wed, 15 Oct 2014 15:26:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] by p02c12o142.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.2.0-0) with SMTP id b36ee345.0.62871.00-363.180366.p02c12o142.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Wed, 15 Oct 2014 15:25:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::c824:a29e:45a5:b81c]) by ATLPEXCAS03.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 17:25:04 -0400 From: John Hasty To: Charly Mitchel Thread-Topic: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos Thread-Index: AQHP6BiJuLk+nTyFikyQiwUDVB/B8pwxeW3UgAAMYCuAACb5tg== Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 21:25:03 +0000 References: <543DF0AC.5090807@bradakis.com> <8D1B6BBD279213C-17B4-320D0@webmail-vm180.sysops.aol.com>, <503FF4B8843C444ABFD76E9B2271459B@Charly> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US a=VR8QHrWKYhK80xkEBGCjUg==] a=BLc] a=e66q1VI] a=nqVquM30AAAA:2] a=Jcv] a=J] a=U8Ie8] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" , fubog1 Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net NEAT! Are those trees & dirt banks as close to the track as they appear in the video? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 15, 2014, at 3:05 PM, "Charly Mitchel" wrote: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_R1BfQWjkE > Charly Mitchel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "fubog1" > To: ; > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 11:20 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos > > >> uuuh.... there isn't a 6-cylinder TR on the planet that sounds quite like >> JKs >> car!!! >> Glen >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mark J Bradakis >> >> To: fot >> Sent: Wed, Oct 15, 2014 2:14 >> pm >> Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos >> >> >> McKearn McKearn wrote: >>> Hi >> all. >>> >>> I'm really longing for something with a six cylinder engine note. >> >> At >> the Asheville VTR convention J. K. Jackson had his autocross car, a TR6. >> It >> was sort of >> a damp and cloudy day, sounds seemed to get trapped under the sky. >> When he came >> down the hill >> heading for the finish line, I could swear he had >> that motor spinning at about >> 12 grand. >> What a sound! >> >> mjb. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: >> http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1@aol.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 08:06:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E172585205 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 08:06:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p01c11o141.mxlogic.net (p01c11o141.mxlogic.net [208.65.144.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A63225805EC for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 08:04:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] by p01c11o141.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.2.0-0) with SMTP id 231df345.0.3570.00-360.10151.p01c11o141.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Thu, 16 Oct 2014 08:07:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::c824:a29e:45a5:b81c]) by ATLPEXCAS03.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 10:07:38 -0400 From: John Hasty To: "fot@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: Bring a Trailer Daily Mail Thread-Index: AQHP6TmaYcBH0HE/xkKgVGrGt7fB5Jwywwvg Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:07:37 +0000 References: <1118848501024.1113839607327.14228.0.460800JL.1002@scheduler.constantcontact.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [192.168.123.236] a=VR8QHrWKYhK80xkEBGCjUg==] a=El9] a=e66q1VI] a=mkkZP590AAAA:8] a=E0iFO5SKHeOrSNbyGxMA:] a=QEXdDO2ut3] a=Ki9j9A26RgQA:1] a=] a=SSmOF] a] a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:] a] Subject: [Fot] FW: Bring a Trailer Daily Mail Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Nice looking GT6 on BAT John H. Hasty | MULLEN HOLLAND & COOPER P.A. Attorney at Law 301 South York Street (zip: 28052) P.O. Box 488 Gastonia, NC 28053-0488 Telephone: 704.864.6751 | Facsimile: 704.861.8394 JHasty@mhc-law.com | www.mhc-law.com From: Bring a Trailer [mailto:mail@bringatrailer.com] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 8:05 AM To: jhhasty@gdhs.com Subject: Bring a Trailer Daily Mail [http://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/bat-logo-web2.gif] BaT Auction #12: Eight Cars Now Open for Bidding! [Bring a Trailer Auctions 12 Falcon] BaT Auction #12 is now live! Following the 6-for-6 sale result yesterday, we are increasing the number of cars offered this week to keep up with the growing number of great submissions. The white 1971 Lotus Elan S4 Coupe was built by a Lotus expert and enthusiast in Australia. The 1965 Ford Falcon Sprint has been rally proven in the La Carrera, Targa Newfoundland, and Chihuahua Express. The 1969 Mercedes 300 SEL 6.3 looks great in black/black and is a nicely sorted example. A 2002 BMW M5 has 63k original miles and all factory Imola Red paint. The 1964 Buick Skylark features an 8-liter Cadillac V8 and is a former BaT Exclusive. The 1971 Innocenti Mini Cooper is the Italian variant of the venerable British icon and is very well modified. Finally, the 1990 BMW M3 roller is looking for someone to bring it back to life. Each car can be found at the links below: * Restored 1971 Lotus Elan S4 Coupe * Newfoundland and Carrera Veteran 1965 Ford Falcon Sprint * 1990 BMW M3 Roller Project * 1971 Triumph GT6 Vintage Racer * 63k-Mile 2002 BMW M5 * 1969 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL 6.3 * 8-Liter 1964 Buick Skylark * 1971 Innocenti Mini Cooper The general BaT Auctions overview and results page can be found here. Click here to read more... Five Years Later: Rare 1964 Bristol 408 [Other Makes 408 2 Door Coupe | eBay] 10/15/2014 Update: Five years after we first featured this car in Oregon, this Bristol 408 (chassis 408-1-007) has now been listed by current owner and well known magazine columnist Andy Reid. He says it is one of 73 408's ever produced, and that he has added 1600 miles in the last year. Find it here on eBay in Canton, Connecticut with no reserve. Special thanks to BaT reader Kyle K. for this update! Click here to read more... Enhanced R107: AMG 3.6 Powered 1984 Mercedes Benz 280SL [Not a Brabus: AMG 3.6 Powered 1984 Mercedes Benz SL] This 1984 R107 chassis SL started life as a 280SL before being professionally converted to 3.6L AMG power. Said to be a flawless one-off, power comes from a hand-built, AMG-tuned version of MB's M104 good for almost 290 HP. Originally fitted to the W202 chassis C36, this car sees it working with a 5-speed manual unavailable in the small sedan. Other upgrades include 4 pot brake calipers, 16b BBS snowflakes and leather-lined Recaros. We think it looks great, and bet the torquey, smooth six and stickshift positively transform the driving experience. Find it here at Cultcars.de in Witten, Germany for 69,980 euros (~$89,709 today). Click here to read more... Also new on Bring a Trailer: [1955 Morgan +4 DHC][4 different 1971 Citroen SM project cars][Volkswagen Rabbit GTI | eBay] Click here to get the BaT Daily Email Copyright 2014 Bring a Trailer Media LLC Follow BaT 24/7 [Like us on Facebook] [Follow us on Twitter] [http://ih.constantcontact.com/fs164/1113839607327/img/12.jpg] [http://img.constantcontact.com/letters/images/SafeUnsubscribe_Footer_Logo_New.png] Rapid removal with SafeUnsubscribeb" | Privacy Policy. 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[107.147.194.78]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r102sm3254453ioe.42.2014.10.16.08.18.09 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 16 Oct 2014 08:18:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:18:08 -0400 To: FOT List Triumph Subject: [Fot] Port Matching follow up no 2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net 10/16 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 11:07:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CFD925852E6 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:07:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from ex.dunnwalshholdings.com (ex.dunnwalshholdings.com [173.219.117.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7A1258068A for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:07:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::6cea:93a1:26a:8c3c]) by TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::6cea:93a1:26a:8c3c%15]) with mapi; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 10:08:17 -0700 From: Edward Dunn To: John Hasty , "fot@autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 10:10:10 -0700 Thread-Topic: Bring a Trailer Daily Mail Thread-Index: AQHP6TmaYcBH0HE/xkKgVGrGt7fB5JwywwvggAAxzTA= References: <1118848501024.1113839607327.14228.0.460800JL.1002@scheduler.constantcontact.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: Re: [Fot] Bring a Trailer Daily Mail Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks, it's mine. Took some sorting out, but it's going to be a great car for someone. Ed Dunn -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Hasty Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:08 AM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] FW: Bring a Trailer Daily Mail Nice looking GT6 on BAT John H. Hasty | MULLEN HOLLAND & COOPER P.A. Attorney at Law 301 South York Street (zip: 28052) P.O. Box 488 Gastonia, NC 28053-0488 Telephone: 704.864.6751 | Facsimile: 704.861.8394 JHasty@mhc-law.com | www.mhc-law.com From: Bring a Trailer [mailto:mail@bringatrailer.com] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 8:05 AM To: jhhasty@gdhs.com Subject: Bring a Trailer Daily Mail [http://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/bat-logo-web2.gif] BaT Auction #12: Eight Cars Now Open for Bidding! [Bring a Trailer Auctions 12 Falcon] BaT Auction #12 is now live! Following the 6-for-6 sale result yesterday, we are increasing the number of cars offered this week to keep up with the growing number of great submissions. The white 1971 Lotus Elan S4 Coupe was built by a Lotus expert and enthusiast in Australia. The 1965 Ford Falcon Sprint has been rally proven in the La Carrera, Targa Newfoundland, and Chihuahua Express. The 1969 Mercedes 300 SEL 6.3 looks great in black/black and is a nicely sorted example. A 2002 BMW M5 has 63k original miles and all factory Imola Red paint. The 1964 Buick Skylark features an 8-liter Cadillac V8 and is a former BaT Exclusive. The 1971 Innocenti Mini Cooper is the Italian variant of the venerable British icon and is very well modified. Finally, the 1990 BMW M3 roller is looking for someone to bring it back to life. Each car can be found at the links below: * Restored 1971 Lotus Elan S4 Coupe * Newfoundland and Carrera Veteran 1965 Ford Falcon Sprint * 1990 BMW M3 Roller Project * 1971 Triumph GT6 Vintage Racer * 63k-Mile 2002 BMW M5 * 1969 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL 6.3 * 8-Liter 1964 Buick Skylark * 1971 Innocenti Mini Cooper The general BaT Auctions overview and results page can be found here. Click here to read more... Five Years Later: Rare 1964 Bristol 408 [Other Makes 408 2 Door Coupe | eBay] 10/15/2014 Update: Five years after we first featured this car in Oregon, this Bristol 408 (chassis 408-1-007) has now been listed by current owner and well known magazine columnist Andy Reid. He says it is one of 73 408's ever produced, and that he has added 1600 miles in the last year. Find it here on eBay in Canton, C onnecticut with no reserve. Special thanks to BaT reader Kyle K. for this update! Click here to read more... 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Bring a Trailer Media | PO Box 155467 | San Francisco | CA | 94110 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edunn@qualityfueltrailers.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 12:44:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB85E2584A52 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 12:44:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (smtpauth04a.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.160]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A38C2580A68 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 12:44:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Charly (unknown [63.228.112.84]) (Authenticated sender: charly@mitchelplumbing.com) by smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 69DE25D8074; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:47:14 -0500 (CDT) From: "Charly Mitchel" To: "Charly Mitchel" , , , "fubog1" References: <543DF0AC.5090807@bradakis.com> <8D1B6BBD279213C-17B4-320D0@webmail-vm180.sysops.aol.com> <503FF4B8843C444ABFD76E9B2271459B@Charly> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:47:10 -0700 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net And another from our hillclimb, camera mounted in different locations for each run https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40QAXvCSmxE > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_R1BfQWjkE > Charly Mitchel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "fubog1" > To: ; > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 11:20 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos > > >> uuuh.... there isn't a 6-cylinder TR on the planet that sounds quite like >> JKs >> car!!! >> Glen >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mark J Bradakis >> >> To: fot >> Sent: Wed, Oct 15, 2014 2:14 >> pm >> Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cylinder race videos >> >> >> McKearn McKearn wrote: >>> Hi >> all. >>> >>> I'm really longing for something with a six cylinder engine note. >> >> At >> the Asheville VTR convention J. K. Jackson had his autocross car, a TR6. >> It >> was sort of >> a damp and cloudy day, sounds seemed to get trapped under the sky. >> When he came >> down the hill >> heading for the finish line, I could swear he had >> that motor spinning at about >> 12 grand. >> What a sound! >> >> mjb. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: >> http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1@aol.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 05:45:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF40B25851E9 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 05:45:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bl2on0129.outbound.protection.outlook.com [65.55.169.129]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9361B2580405 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 05:45:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.255.189.16) by BLUPR04MB853.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.255.189.147) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1054.13; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 11:48:22 +0000 Received: from BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.189.16]) by BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.189.16]) with mapi id 15.00.1054.004; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 11:48:22 +0000 From: Michael Moore To: "fot@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: Watkins Glen Thread-Index: Ac/p/rWj0DJp/OU5Qtq2g5D1NzgU/Q== Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 11:48:21 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [24.165.139.19] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BLUPR04MB853; x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:; x-forefront-prvs: 0367A50BB1 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(189002)(48214007)(38414003)(199003)(76576001)(105586002)(76482002)(31966008)(229853001)(19300405004)(4396001)(19625215002)(87936001)(99286002)(99936001)(107046002)(95666004)(2656002)(64706001)(40100003)(2351001)(122556002)(2501002)(107886001)(85852003)(20776003)(74316001)(15202345003)(16236675004)(66066001)(17760045003)(15975445006)(18206015026)(33646002)(221733001)(46102003)(19627595001)(80022003)(19580405001)(120916001)(54356999)(19580395003)(106356001)(99396003)(50986999)(92566001)(21056001)(110136001)(108616004)(19627405001)(85306004)(86362001)(97736003)(101416001)(276003)(24736002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BLUPR04MB853; H:BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:0; LANG:en; Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net VRG finished up season at Watkins Glen last weekend, the weather was beautiful. If you're looking for a low key, reasonably priced, good seat time event, this is it. In group 2 we had 5 Triumphs finishing in the top 10 for most races out of 25-30 cars, pretty impressive. Dick Stockton TR4 Dave Miller TR4 Scott Janzen GT6 Mike Moore TR4 John Styduhar TR3 Brian Schirano was also running his TR6, and Dale Oesterle was dominant in Group 1 in his Spitfire. Dick had his car out for the 1st time in 2 years after an extensive rebuild after it was buried in Hurricane Sandy. He and the car were unbelievably fast. Poor Henry Fry worked like crazy to get his Beady Eye TR3 ready for the weekend, only to break a trailer axle on the way, and never made it. Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 09:17:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3DB25806EE for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 09:17:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BAY004-OMC2S25.hotmail.com (bay004-omc2s25.hotmail.com [65.54.190.100]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4657325806EE for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 09:17:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY407-EAS40 ([65.54.190.124]) by BAY004-OMC2S25.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Fri, 17 Oct 2014 08:20:51 -0700 From: Rich Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 11:21:37 -0400 To: "fot@autox.team.net" FILETIME=[F007FC00:01CFEA1D] Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net And, FOT member Dave Spiwak was there with his TR3. VRG actually has one more event scheduled for this year. The Turkey Bowl, a three-day event held over Thanksgiving weekend at Summit Point. A good chance for those who are not familiar with the track to get some experience before the May 2015 Kastner Cup. Rich Rock ________________________________ From: Michael Moore Sent: 10/17/2014 7:49 AM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Watkins Glen VRG finished up season at Watkins Glen last weekend, the weather was beautiful. If you're looking for a low key, reasonably priced, good seat time event, this is it. In group 2 we had 5 Triumphs finishing in the top 10 for most races out of 25-30 cars, pretty impressive. Dick Stockton TR4 Dave Miller TR4 Scott Janzen GT6 Mike Moore TR4 John Styduhar TR3 Brian Schirano was also running his TR6, and Dale Oesterle was dominant in Group 1 in his Spitfire. Dick had his car out for the 1st time in 2 years after an extensive rebuild after it was buried in Hurricane Sandy. He and the car were unbelievably fast. Poor Henry Fry worked like crazy to get his Beady Eye TR3 ready for the weekend, only to break a trailer axle on the way, and never made it. Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rikrock@live.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 15:45:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD5C258478C for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 15:45:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.165]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C58E25806A5 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 15:36:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.140] by nm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2014 21:40:08 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.240] by tm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2014 21:40:08 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1049.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2014 21:40:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 31069 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Oct 2014 21:40:08 -0000 s=s1024; t=1413582008; bh=gZ3h55J2yj30JMcvBtCIpggpDaLKKeEmW9fDoXMUJW0=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=b/xdBG2dyfxy/30SxyPQDv0ZQvEDLf/xqV/Rs1PeraTQ9cAkM9SK7yBfSXQNqMtljJMwkjy/+BipQRyM+TSErP76eK2UcczBCNJjlH2q8/npy3CUIKaLapeH7ks2cVY0HU2gTeTn9zJJxbShfDXmCZWE6wpk4X2QIqcCLzK0TSI= NrEj1OPoHMXyeZmc0OWhGmwWu5E5fqjpASnJnmChkSUr5mmHzftOswXGozcr d7GwSLDgshaKygBvUpIJCRuDRiT6uioPccH.wobqoU4mMZzQVJPeTo9.msmf FnFrFDpa9wDdp7li2r4ISxtyTZD_cMBLO8lCsE38iOum6cLf.UMLiC2x8Zv_ HurflPmjz8.lI4lm3OJ12KFtcvtQqUeXPefeqpIReLFI1KLGdNM3Gc1Bts7V ZFCMnc1OYszRL_U90NR0szlO0aRbIlaqev7_QvWinrvHzdsxl_4w1W6JOHdU S5AIuuuGMsB5b30NdWCf76vzvax8WM8x.ZB.qEcRTLxz0oDXOJHalA55urMq aBGfbZJhsbOsg4KB1PenusAqDKShGg7.4DPB9AiCOjAm8NQw2xAky1BP4.jn wmXGy0vXM4h4KLZ1uznLg_MAxlmqMxOeFZgucp4C86wMNxT5fuJq9fqOXlvi vMqSaHvkNhARTLQFN2v_fcHVrmeg_YvjZlQgAELi7LKnpzS9JNIe4U1WfvJA - Received: from [66.195.82.222] by web160902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 14:40:08 PDT SGF2ZSBhbnkgb2YgeW91IHJ1biBhIGNhciBpbiBhdCAyNCBMZW1vbnMgcmFjZT8gIFdlIGFyZSB0aGlua2luZyBvZiBydW5uaW5nIGFuIG9sZCBDbHViIFJhYmJpdCBpbiBvbmUgYW5kIHdhbnRlZCB0byBrbm93IGlmIGFueW9uZSBoYXMgYW55IGV4cGVyaWVuY2UgaW4gdGhlbS4gIFNpbmNlIHRoaXMgaXMgbm90IFRyaXVtcGggcmVsYXRlZCBwbGVhc2UgcmVzcG9uZCB0byBtZSBvZmYgbGlzdC4gIE5vIEkgYW0gbm90IGdvaW5nIHRvIHJ1biB0aGUgVFI0IGluIExlbW9ucyByYWNlLiAgCk1pa2UgTWVobCAKIzQBMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 14:40:08 -0700 From: Mike Mehl To: FOT List Triumph Subject: [Fot] 24 Hour Lemons question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Have any of you run a car in at 24 Lemons race? We are thinking of running an old Club Rabbit in one and wanted to know if anyone has any experience in them. Since this is not Triumph related please respond to me off list. No I am not going to run the TR4 in Lemons race. Mike Mehl #46 TR4 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 20:17:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B562585504 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 20:17:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f47.google.com (mail-wg0-f47.google.com [74.125.82.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A08DD2584612 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 20:08:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f47.google.com with SMTP id x13so1982324wgg.6 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 19:12:07 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tSOYoGqRT3LDmj98FvoljMBZBo+kkd9Zb8TbcB6BN7c=; b=K7QTya5cHLX+ccvxrpt/EV+M/MQUxDf8LSDZoyRnsmKcF1NXSViB0GOp6h+fIJx+xc V+iEi/vlCsi1/Xz0k8z7HC2bBGoD1o6cexVac+wUaBEjYhROx/vUtyDvw1fmYtt+xmtS YRhEc8NisgMoFSkPksBs+BPVq7S8ZGosAWxDQVIOA8tRt9WIebie5mN8SKOCQ6OZgstA /1Oszbj3hPYVEBoyNikfAbmq33Y3zJCtIpQoVtdjxr1l77WgRi2HdmYvVL6FoPVoMIgd kWNC43f56ibrODFYMr31fdJgLX9HNyT8P58X1edt/+OqZ57lPeb2y4aKCVPMZhkjwKzM 9iAg== v12mr2963841wie.44.1413598327209; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 19:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.18.228 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 19:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:12:07 -0500 From: McKearn McKearn To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] 6 cyl. Videos Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hey all. Thank you to those who posted or linked video. I love it. That hill climb looks like a blast too. I've never seen one before. Anything like that in the central Midwest? P.J. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 07:49:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D352585698 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 07:49:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m08.mx.aol.com (omr-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.222.129]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 776982580934 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 07:40:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aam01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aam01.mx.aol.com [172.27.19.147]) by omr-m08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 19A3470310604; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 09:44:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mla06h.mail.aol.com (core-mla06.mail.aol.com [172.27.37.6]) by mtaomg-aam01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C0C7E38000085; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 09:44:02 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 09:44:02 -0400 To: mckearn2@gmail.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1413639844; bh=8XRblELH1qcSoU6UOYlgwrjaJCgcYXyszq7pWneTQos=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=F1W7gnPmomhwmA68WoBHB+jqE+MNsWRyD5QALxk1Db1hHdsyA64xbGa+ahRoIxXSs KcWYmJ/JluwWj0qWYU8VYloGU4cSwX+BET8DUGFodou7QymFM3eP3JPl/oJekKrQAd 7PJNYFW20D72pdG172roiRFbZmpH1vHfMq5MLoUQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b139354426ea20d29 Subject: Re: [Fot] 6 cyl. Videos Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 10/18/2014 12:59:35 AM Central Daylight Time, mckearn2@gmail.com writes: > Hey all. > Thank you to those who posted or linked video. I love it. That hill > climb > looks like a blast too. I've never seen one before. Anything like that in > the central Midwest? > I do not know of any still running. VSCDA used to run Hill Climbs at both Lake Geneva and Janesville. The Janesville event was held as a tribute to an annual event that used to be held back in the 1950s. But alas, they had to stop holding them because it was impossible to 'control the crowd'. Spectators who wanted to watch up close were a potential disaster waiting to happen. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 09:33:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45605258487C for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 09:33:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from brightmail-internal4.sri.com (brightmail-internal4.SRI.COM [128.18.89.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A4372580BDC for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 09:33:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from exchange-hub01.SRI.COM (Unknown_Domain [128.18.87.18]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by brightmail-internal4.sri.com (SRI Internal SMTP Gateway) with SMTP id A0.90.21213.40982445; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 08:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from EXCHANGE-DB06.SRI.COM ([fe80::59e7:ee75:82cc:cb45]) by exchange-hub01.SRI.COM ([fe80::5dff:8262:1901:d433%15]) with mapi id 14.02.0387.000; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 08:37:08 -0700 From: Cregg Cowan To: "fot@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: Special TR6 stolen Thread-Index: Ac/q6Ub4UeJYFlFzTqy52RCyCRCm/Q== Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 15:37:07 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [142.254.78.85] wR7AGMVlk5Kak1mWWqRvl8CVMeX1MbaCPsaKyVOnsjcw1nUxcnJICJhILH+8kR3CFpO4cG89 WxcjF4eQwEomiS9zP0I5+xglXp97xQxSxSagLvHi3UIwW0RAV2L52V9gtrCAtMTMaS+Yuhg5 gOIKEltfF0GU6EnMuvmCGSTMIqAqcfiyJ0iYV8BPYv2y1awgNiPQ3u+n1jCB2MwC4hK3nsxn grhHQGLJnvPMELaoxMvH/1ghbEWJqet7mCHqdSQW7P7EBmFrSyxb+JoZYr6gxMmZT1gmMArP QjJ2FpKWWUhaZiFpWcDIsopRJqkoMz2jJDcxM0cXFtgmesVFmXrJ+bmbGMHBHimxg3HSMttD jAIcjEo8vD9OO4YIsSaWFVfmHmKU4GBWEuGdOhkoxJuSWFmVWpQfX1Sak1p8iFGag0VJnPcX w6tAIYH0xJLU7NTUgtQimCwTB6dUA+PC27fXSZ66zV/A8UCuIrvVqp3Fa+UvlZQTh8sfK+cm CvqEW1+Q+3rXPjKx8OXJzKcMK2q6Iz8+95x291L5lJo5KtnWcs45ZfPSGr5vVpRJKPMx6Y46 q3TtL8fL05FXL4lWHZ0rdyB3s+RpTav4lkqPHwZF4furVrLKcrbtfFXavXGtnrBHkRJLcUai oRZzUXEiAKb7lMFyAgAA Subject: [Fot] Special TR6 stolen Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Be on the lookout for this unique re-bodied TR6 http://bringatrailer.com/2014/10/17/help-a-bat-friend-ed-a-s-aluminum-triumph -special/ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 15:05:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5912584695 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 15:05:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bcs.bcshost.com (bcs.bcshost.com [192.254.176.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C207A2580870 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:57:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f178.google.com ([209.85.214.178]:56963) by bcs.bcshost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Xfb7B-0007RH-AG for fot@autox.team.net; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 16:00:41 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f178.google.com with SMTP id wn1so2228087obc.9 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:00:39 -0700 (PDT) Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:00:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.240.107 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:00:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 16:00:39 -0500 From: Joe Alexander To: fot@autox.team.net with any abuse report joe@the-vintage-racer.com Subject: [Fot] Remflex exhaust header gaskets......available. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT, Sean ordered a batch of Remflex gaskets for ourselves and for our website. They are primarily for TR3/4, but there are a few GT6. If anyone would like to have a pair you can respond to this email. He will likely offer free shipping, at least. A number of us have found that this gasket is superior to anything else we have used and are sometimes reusable. If there is enough interest, we could have other gaskets made by Remflex. Just ask. We are adding this product to our molded silicone valve cover gaskets. Those are indefinitely reusable and superior in sealing. (Our thanks to Justin Wagner) in helping us with our start up, a year ago) Thanks, Joe Alexander Sean Alexander Gasketinnovations.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 15:49:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4B3258466F for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 15:49:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from ewout01.consolidated.net (ewout01.consolidated.net [206.123.242.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4061C25806C8 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 15:43:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.0.1.3] ([173.16.28.91]) by ewout01.consolidated.net ({a3e7b2da-d35d-464a-859b-c83cc75994b3}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTPSA id 20141018214605520 (AUTH triumphs@consolidated.net); Sat, 18 Oct 2014 21:46:05 +0000 References: From: Home Consolidated Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 16:45:58 -0500 To: Joe Alexander Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Remflex exhaust header gaskets......available. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I will put in a plug for these gaskets. I have used them for a long time and they preformed flawlessly. In my case they also solved a problem nothing else could seem to fix. Ken Gano Sent from my iPad > On Oct 18, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > FOT, > > Sean ordered a batch of Remflex gaskets for ourselves and for our website. > They are primarily for TR3/4, but there are a few GT6. > > If anyone would like to have a pair you can respond to this email. He will > likely offer free shipping, at least. > > A number of us have found that this gasket is superior to anything else we > have used and are sometimes reusable. > > If there is enough interest, we could have other gaskets made by Remflex. > Just ask. > > We are adding this product to our molded silicone valve cover gaskets. > Those are indefinitely reusable and superior in sealing. (Our thanks to > Justin Wagner) in helping us with our start up, a year ago) > > Thanks, > > > Joe Alexander > Sean Alexander > Gasketinnovations.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphs@consolidated.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 15:49:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1293F2584803 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 15:49:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com (omr-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 721E525806C8 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 15:46:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mbc02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mbc02.mx.aol.com [172.26.221.144]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 42A0870000081; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:49:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-ana02e.mail.aol.com (core-ana02.mail.aol.com [172.27.9.12]) by mtaomg-mbc02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 000C938000082; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:49:37 -0400 (EDT) References: To: joe@the-vintage-racer.com, fot@autox.team.net From: gt6steve@aol.com Received: from 184.6.113.193 by webmail-vm061.sysops.aol.com (149.174.183.102) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:49:37 -0400 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:49:37 -0400 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1413668978; bh=oeDgUCLU9qYPVFQEjDJI6ZSlSpnaIu3kKSXHeArkniw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=iR3n6rQrnlshQqgRb4D3Bnv25yoWt3MCAX0ZJrljnm/mkOIxLPSzGT8Lz8xq9pXRO ZMcdp+eDNAvBhlcyf5XSDu9PMKEIxlp35PII9krtX2n54RLGFlZui+j0KQbc4HincC PSpk93m2W5AwWkwkClo8Vplyhv7IOROwOmSbt4aU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1add905442e071115c Subject: Re: [Fot] Remflex exhaust header gaskets......available. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've been using those for many years and agree that they are a good product. To somewhat ameliorate the brutal expense I wrap them in several layers of foil and yellow interior adhesive. This makes them seperate easier and become reusable. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander To: fot Sent: Sat, Oct 18, 2014 2:08 pm Subject: [Fot] Remflex exhaust header gaskets......available. FOT, Sean ordered a batch of Remflex gaskets for ourselves and for our website. They are primarily for TR3/4, but there are a few GT6. If anyone would like to have a pair you can respond to this email. He will likely offer free shipping, at least. A number of us have found that this gasket is superior to anything else we have used and are sometimes reusable. If there is enough interest, we could have other gaskets made by Remflex. Just ask. We are adding this product to our molded silicone valve cover gaskets. Those are indefinitely reusable and superior in sealing. (Our thanks to Justin Wagner) in helping us with our start up, a year ago) Thanks, Joe Alexander Sean Alexander Gasketinnovations.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 16:23:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E012584949 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 16:23:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bcs.bcshost.com (bcs.bcshost.com [192.254.176.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99022580BB8 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 16:23:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f179.google.com ([209.85.214.179]:53301) by bcs.bcshost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XfcS7-0000hF-Th for fot@autox.team.net; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:26:23 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f179.google.com with SMTP id wp4so2258408obc.10 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 15:26:22 -0700 (PDT) tf10mr14638962oeb.3.1413671182700; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 15:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.240.107 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 15:26:22 -0700 (PDT) References: <8D1B9348C2E419A-718-7B46@webmail-vm061.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:26:22 -0500 From: Joe Alexander To: "gt6steve@aol.com" with any abuse report joe@the-vintage-racer.com Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Remflex exhaust header gaskets......available. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Steve, that's a great tip. They are expensive. We will be slightly cheaper than Remflex to try to help that out and get more volume. I am also investigating another graphite material to be used in an aircraft turbocharger application that I am working on. I'd like to get the cost down for all of us. It will be awhile for that result, tho. On Saturday, October 18, 2014, wrote: > I've been using those for many years and agree that they are a good > product. > > To somewhat ameliorate the brutal expense I wrap them in several layers > of foil and yellow interior adhesive. This makes them seperate easier and > become reusable. > > Steve > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Alexander > > To: fot > > Sent: Sat, Oct 18, 2014 2:08 pm > Subject: [Fot] Remflex exhaust header gaskets......available. > > FOT, > > Sean ordered a batch of Remflex gaskets for ourselves and for our website. > They are primarily for TR3/4, but there are a few GT6. > > If anyone would like to have a pair you can respond to this email. He will > likely offer free shipping, at least. > > A number of us have found that this gasket is superior to anything else we > have used and are sometimes reusable. > > If there is enough interest, we could have other gaskets made by Remflex. > Just ask. > > We are adding this product to our molded silicone valve cover gaskets. > Those are indefinitely reusable and superior in sealing. (Our thanks to > Justin Wagner) in helping us with our start up, a year ago) > > Thanks, > > > Joe Alexander > Sean Alexander > Gasketinnovations.com > _______________________________________________fot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 17:34:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 000282584916 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:34:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC3S20.hotmail.com (blu004-omc3s20.hotmail.com [65.55.116.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26AA4258090B for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:34:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU402-EAS57 ([65.55.116.72]) by BLU004-OMC3S20.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Sat, 18 Oct 2014 16:37:31 -0700 From: marty To: =?utf-8?Q?FOT?= Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 23:20:03 +0000 FILETIME=[7C7A6C40:01CFEB2C] Cc: =?utf-8?Q?Bob_Palmer?= Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Nomination?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I would like to nominate a fellow Ohioan, Bob Palmer. Bobs been onto Triumphs for more than two decades. Bob is proprietor of Bobs British Cars. Bobs been autocrossing and doing track days with me for a long long time. He also has some weird German cars in his stable but we wont hold that against him. Bobs ready to dive into the competition end of this hobby and would be a great addition to the unwashed. Second anybody? Bobs email is triumphbob@aol.com Thanks, Marty Sukey _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 17:36:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B1B258494F for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:36:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bcs.bcshost.com (bcs.bcshost.com [192.254.176.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7DD2584656 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:35:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail-oi0-f53.google.com ([209.85.218.53]:59901) by bcs.bcshost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Xfdac-0001yT-81 for fot@autox.team.net; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 18:39:14 -0500 Received: by mail-oi0-f53.google.com with SMTP id v63so2169206oia.12 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 16:39:13 -0700 (PDT) bg3mr15148600oec.2.1413675553050; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 16:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.240.107 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 16:39:12 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 18:39:12 -0500 From: Joe Alexander To: marty with any abuse report joe@the-vintage-racer.com Cc: FOT , Bob Palmer Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yo! On Saturday, October 18, 2014, marty wrote: > I would like to nominate a fellow Ohioan, Bob Palmer. Bobs been onto > Triumphs for more than two decades. Bob is proprietor of Bobs British Cars. > Bobs been autocrossing and doing track days with me for a long long time. > He also has some weird German cars in his stable but we wont hold that > against him. Bobs ready to dive into the competition end of this hobby and > would be a great addition to the unwashed. Second anybody? Bobs email is > triumphbob@aol.com > > > Thanks, > > > Marty Sukey > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joe@the-vintage-racer.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 17:36:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C450625848E3 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:36:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m3.mx.aol.com (omr-m3.mx.aol.com [64.12.233.221]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC272584971 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:36:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mcb01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mcb01.mx.aol.com [172.26.50.173]) by omr-m3.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6ABAA380000C5; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 19:39:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (206.sub-70-193-52.myvzw.com [70.193.52.206]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mcb01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id B9C6738000090; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 19:39:20 -0400 (EDT) References: From: Jack Mc Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 19:39:15 -0400 To: marty x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1413675561; bh=7tCdCQJcH6et9RCvmXnBRUyaPn5GR/U2ApwVt+P6DSE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=jpW9Eaz/4YhRNgzmrEFwQmSXDEyhpZqEmusk+tYRywK2Fka27NjcfCx3eNAKMEBlb cxydM40p0Cs2HSrB1PMRfWOaJdSED1LYQ6pAmgb2AVxHp+PDM5SKzzRrMENZ5HQ/3i AJ/suaTvwHcrlu6doLWSAMDSHx7Fh9+W+qINFpMU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a32ad5442fa282a5a Cc: FOT , Bob Palmer Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net SECOND!!! Jack Mc Sent from my iPad > On Oct 18, 2014, at 7:20 PM, marty wrote: > > I would like to nominate a fellow Ohioan, Bob Palmer. Bobs been onto Triumphs for more than two decades. Bob is proprietor of Bobs British Cars. Bobs been autocrossing and doing track days with me for a long long time. He also has some weird German cars in his stable but we wont hold that against him. Bobs ready to dive into the competition end of this hobby and would be a great addition to the unwashed. Second anybody? Bobs email is triumphbob@aol.com > > > Thanks, > > > Marty Sukey > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/limeyv8@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 17:53:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629792584904 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:53:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m2.mx.aol.com (omr-m2.mx.aol.com [64.12.133.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEFDA25804C2 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:53:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mca01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mca01.mx.aol.com [172.26.221.77]) by omr-m2.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id DC7FE380000AB; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 19:56:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [75.114.168.211]) by mtaout-mca01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id BB02D3800008E; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 19:56:49 -0400 (EDT) To: "marty" ,"FOT" From: "=?utf-8?B?cmVrNDZAYW9sLmNvbQ==?=" Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 19:56:46 -0400 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1413676610; bh=E//OySCUMLqVJvRci3oNOFgOS19DHH2kzQ07mcEPAOg=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WfngfK+OPsYV0XWveKadPMyA96S/aknhrhOi1Hxv3+itqrzmsTbtvs/FEv81cXuNA VuS3+TZd9U4F4RDpG3ScdKm8a8hQsOMDzN8jSuw4y31ZE2SsojlYTAKJNvGZyS0xHJ EK7CEr7iQJ3kO8Z9SU544c/TxCp3NhhQVQHj/ke0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1add4d5442fe413e1e Cc: =?utf-8?B?Qm9iIFBhbG1lcg==?= Subject: Re: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Nomination?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'll second him for you...rick Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint! ----- Reply message ----- From: "marty" Date: Sat, Oct 18, 2014 7:20 pm Subject: [Fot] Nomination To: "FOT" Cc: "Bob Palmer" I would like to nominate a fellow Ohioan, Bob Palmer. Bobs been onto Triumphs for more than two decades. Bob is proprietor of Bobs British Cars. Bobs been autocrossing and doing track days with me for a long long time. He also has some weird German cars in his stable but we wont hold that against him. Bobs ready to dive into the competition end of this hobby and would be a great addition to the unwashed. Second anybody? Bobs email is triumphbob@aol.com Thanks, Marty Sukey _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 18:03:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913692584B11 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 18:03:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C18A2584A8D for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:57:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB862C00B6 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 18:00:31 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 18:00:29 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: FOT References: Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net marty wrote: > I would like to nominate a fellow Ohioan, Bob Palmer. Name seems familiar. I made it so. On a side note there may be some periods of downtime coming up in the next couple of days. Those of you who are on triumphs list know how a somewhat casual comment I made turned into a mini fund drive. Got a couple of items on the Team.Net wish list, may be shuffling things around in the near future. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 12:23:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192AB2584E08 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 12:23:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f177.google.com (mail-wi0-f177.google.com [209.85.212.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 156122584C24 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 12:14:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f177.google.com with SMTP id fb4so4638383wid.4 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 11:18:09 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=Cy1zPyJd89wINurl7uuVyp/U6AK39sI8b8dtEMu4s+c=; b=f4S/6xbeZB0b8K6tte5YfUN8CL8e1EYDjUDHSCr06w6CFo9bZ0bICmF3Fmz3ryAx4N gI8JZg926U0DfPSooY977UT4vkBK6h23zYdc/uLM3V+1/3NjVdHA1CWF5+nMcbgdluHo lSGjtcLznQchdevpNCOe5jrGO9zmBkQ9uAGzBUEsw47jpzfWWX5rib6+sUUw2AqozwU6 VbBRPl+YWuWZlRak8qDpaK+aLE9gnFEfWJN74ZiRlDRaf64oZKOTaHBvOsKceTf2pBJ4 F84x6ntRMeD3Epx4+HkDfj1Y1nf2HLjWFKbCEclW8AT7LfbuF8KG+fhxXTO8RavOMR37 yYyg== cx1mr14557374wib.72.1413742689668; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 11:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.165.235.14]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w10sm9201444wje.10.2014.10.19.11.18.08 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 19 Oct 2014 11:18:08 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'FOT'" References: Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 20:18:14 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac/rLMv17AhQKv95RmOx5HsYlbNEAQAm/Y7g Content-Language: de Subject: [Fot] =?iso-8859-1?q?N=FCrburging_with_IMSA_TR8?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, I was part of a race with a strong field of fast cars and drivers. Many Porsches. I managed to finished 2nd in class. Was good fun and some new stuff learned about this car. It is really more complicated that I thought. Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 13:09:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45552584DA1 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 13:09:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f51.google.com (mail-wg0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 881F02584BB9 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 13:06:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id b13so4037508wgh.22 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 12:10:07 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=DOV2jgS4t8VdU+FF3yJjL/fKfU7vo2bu9CD/5kKYbq4=; b=GfEBg4E2k/lBhLN0n3TCT6WKAMnvnF6JUr6nCGTgD/i4rzSZhf+XhELLWXtB6CF40E 31DdjNazsKfvGXogp9yV38+34Sy7PPEGntpcOdBTMlSKplC/KDzlraM0zBwcBhkOzKWC 7ko8gBV/evkrK1ag1DvmYsl/mb181le+bVlWTAr/Y8EU7evOzzZahICh0IUG8pL38LT/ gZNAHiFEJZ9JEQDfd5TWIydqDL3vukw7T5siv4QgXMFtY9Q640FUpQtNZDWxK9vf7DBZ JwU8lQZQay17UrfeYynm5ZPdxIWVevNLduEke6uIsD4EkSX098PxWXPCs/v36505w5QG drmw== ib7mr3474614wjb.95.1413745806912; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 12:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.50.17 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 12:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.50.17 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 12:10:06 -0700 (PDT) References: <002501cfebc9$0d02b9b0$27082d10$@com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 21:10:06 +0200 From: Christian Marx To: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?N=C3=BCrburging_with_IMSA_TR8?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Did I forget the link? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdwWXIm8zwM Am 19.10.2014 20:18 schrieb "MadMarx" : > Hi Friends, > > I was part of a race with a strong field of fast cars and drivers. > Many Porsches. > I managed to finished 2nd in class. > Was good fun and some new stuff learned about this car. > It is really more complicated that I thought. > > Cheers > Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 13:53:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 848BC25858EC for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 13:53:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f54.google.com (mail-pa0-f54.google.com [209.85.220.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DCC25805E8 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 13:51:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id ey11so3759641pad.41 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 12:54:25 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:importance:content-type :mime-version; bh=AVnQlU+1xyNfeG6mBmBLxTH9w+P8l9vhWA/SUFM3SKM=; b=hraU2iitq+ysktcD9QuPi+EJoovXgG60vKY0I3tEsxwXN3DtkHGcqoP4NDI0/xK+5g 2t0fW7eCtlQJNJukTGG8Y4eQXn+9+dYZkyCfkam2H7Moe44moHAlzJW2I+5bwd7FK3yK MjG53E9V1Mp71St7XXrvpTUgjaCPKEKTqaXRcFj7G2eVAj7awrrSlY3lDZjAqftPZ3Xx cQo1kY9uFEFWXrFg0SywdXY18X0O5YnsC81cA5fE2B4AmRFoikRZcu6+wSm28uZOHOJ9 F1PvRjo1aUfgm01E9yb3kBRYkehxbZDijVXVQkPmSRynb9CzxaRqV18V4AnA3m/MeNYr 6Q+A== fx14mr23221505pdb.23.1413748465425; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 12:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.15] (174-21-2-180.tukw.qwest.net. [174.21.2.180]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id j9sm7236601pdo.63.2014.10.19.12.54.24 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 19 Oct 2014 12:54:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 12:54:24 -0700 (PDT) From: =?utf-8?B?dHJpb3NhbkBnbWFpbC5jb20=?= To: =?utf-8?B?dHI0cmFjaW5nQGdvb2dsZW1haWwuY29t?= , =?utf-8?B?Zm90QGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0?= Subject: Re: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?N=C3=BCrburging_with_IMSA_TR8?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wow, that Buick is a monster!!! You looked great. So glad I got to watch you drive it last year. Chuck Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Phone. ------ Original message------ From: Christian Marx Date: Sun, Oct 19, 2014 12:13 PM To: FOT; Subject:Re: [Fot] NC Hi Friends, > > I was part of a race with a strong field of fast cars and drivers. > Many Porsches. > I managed to finished 2nd in class. > Was good fun and some new stuff learned about this car. > It is really more complicated that I thought. > > Cheers > Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 14:43:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3232585A7C for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 14:43:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm13-vm9.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm13-vm9.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8103A2584DD4 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 14:43:30 -0600 (MDT) s=s1024; t=1413751604; bh=YnBAwL20Vr5VDfiXSkVXA+RS8ogh+twGf1BpgnDo4hI=; h=From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=4dJwPd7+rEeLZ1z5Q2kPhtK2uEbb9wuI7AIDYvv/cZ0tXys1TI8VU/Ne53QIqcSgKl3PAARIYKqd3BQX8s19bUEU5mgUwM2WZCECU4+uoHPPqhjRvYKJDLlFFYNtfjEMkcQCRGpYJwJfcY8cF1TYMnLxX3JOJrSbd5NYkKAbDvo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; b=VL7eh4DtVOdjzymIngpxVCDVzT7RyadJz45jNGEVG9Vn8pzU+Y/fBu09vBaMRDLQKiMsPQjFD4suJ5/hTRV1/XBH535bBeGEbAeywLJhZSowMaEas35kC8UAbXhtYm0JffzbNjXjPfdB/Aha6i6wTJBmc+dZ/BURt7ivnAJLTXA=; Received: from [66.196.81.159] by nm13.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2014 20:46:44 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.250] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2014 20:46:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp120.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2014 20:46:44 -0000 s=s1024; t=1413751604; bh=YnBAwL20Vr5VDfiXSkVXA+RS8ogh+twGf1BpgnDo4hI=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=HTIbVwMzczW11F+uHnHVfZKNw/1WYVRGzNy2jLtNMrmxyS9fhuLSRtS8nInEcr/3OjO8dqQ2tyLTqKXvdCdymnksrefnOI1tD8n5V3Wz06rEjeUlBQRDQGKY9SV4QhgR7/4X7qwzn/1uvsQpnRl8Xva3yzY80yZVmaLxgR5gCf0= _xBkycS9tSQX3C.a3bFsTkHQIcwhqv7OuOzq1TUWK783ABU543YsWTOh6lKl .srF4I7nLGw50dvDHfPxVG1BCiCn27pYz81902.42CTXEGBzlJMtDY49Amwz g9wVp5..JpyD93ThurSM45G47O.CyRSEkA8FBNazXgH7ITbWtlCXX5Iounqj wMgI3bjHMuKxsM5LbYMiMPqfxI.1UpAYBkqkl7omYPQJggr4tod8M4xy4RJq my_UAftJSvyeRw5JRwjWJJFQToi5Pq53j2maYZbp33E_hTQeMzLj2aVPl2sv Og34RBH0K4S_fPtmZouZZfZcXgLFvMzNeW45G1G62fTU5Zoqz5tqE6etgiv9 ASBykDwbU5lAjQcoZAm3UxgsI9mqHVMx8tL7Fl6mTpu2WL2lnGWZxsMuYeVe 72l32fwKlsNUJlRN2eJtkct7TykNCVpK9tZtBot.w7DcB8qF12PbJ4QZBpFj L.lpRtpo2fLWhgt6dy3tIRf7fsuyxWCAKrzDcfWHKnkSigTPPMmLt1xPfAP4 4Trt99QMXAnRuivkyEdlWL29ZEOrYe7fVKRu4955KKtz8TROiLslVyWbYaVa HUuWDugIvlnqdrFpa6JbPawxJUMFoM3wOQvLCT.mMvUeRvBOqTS07PJhbcnN WlBcW From: "Paul MacDonald" To: "'Christian Marx'" , "'FOT'" References: <002501cfebc9$0d02b9b0$27082d10$@com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 16:46:41 -0400 Thread-Index: AQHx3MactRSv2LvuEjZ8rA79Wq6CLQO5vUxqAeEUWKEDHz5YDpuuMMiQ Content-Language: en-ca Subject: Re: [Fot] =?iso-8859-1?q?N=FCrburging_with_IMSA_TR8?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Great fun watching. Do you have any details on the other TR7/8 racing? Was the green Porsche at the end in your class, if not, no one passed you all race and made it stick. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Christian Marx Sent: October 19, 2014 3:10 PM To: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] N|rburging with IMSA TR8 Did I forget the link? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdwWXIm8zwM Am 19.10.2014 20:18 schrieb "MadMarx" : > Hi Friends, > > I was part of a race with a strong field of fast cars and drivers. > Many Porsches. > I managed to finished 2nd in class. > Was good fun and some new stuff learned about this car. > It is really more complicated that I thought. > > Cheers > Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/macdonaldp@rogers.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 15:09:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74AE62585A5E for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 15:09:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f65.google.com (mail-la0-f65.google.com [209.85.215.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4522584BA9 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 15:01:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f65.google.com with SMTP id gm9so1029615lab.8 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 14:04:33 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=R0o69lT9mvurY1bFlXeHpHLqN2VTzeEnpCfGmzEgBtI=; b=SZ88VIGy8pqX7oyJomMQeKl68di1PoZPXxodgj4Qu63nRKLvwjlTwrb3IubxVdBY9m pq60Rw+DK5EvpDrTENOAihiL18iNEH2JFedIx7ttV5tHO9Dh4sGNH201Q0m8HE/AwDfs X5I0iDz4ZgV2ivP8lKXAxaC6TOM4SogyPSQr6zcGXNcp4aNZ1kQRwG9wv7IdzMKLsRG4 BAYbM1EdVwpTDqwbtETAS+TKw0SFR0IU1BLFU545etTr7GGygKK5L0DM2Z/s55/PKdtu Zc3oI5+drP9dZMH1oxrzvyhyDtDuavyIsAyuw2YKCkQKuTuMwQCRfc3DbEIigrijT203 0/4Q== a7mr23125190lbh.8.1413752672779; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 14:04:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.165.235.14]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id j6sm2552320lbs.9.2014.10.19.14.04.31 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 19 Oct 2014 14:04:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Paul MacDonald'" , "'FOT'" References: <002501cfebc9$0d02b9b0$27082d10$@com> <007a01cfebdd$c99f16e0$5cdd44a0$@rogers.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 23:04:34 +0200 Thread-Index: AQHx3MactRSv2LvuEjZ8rA79Wq6CLQO5vUxqAeEUWKEDHz5YDpuuMMiQgAAE22A= Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] =?iso-8859-1?q?N=FCrburging_with_IMSA_TR8?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The other TR8 was Graham Miller who was in USA with this car when the English came for racing. His engine is about 320 hp strong, maybe more. I think the secret on the IMSA TR8 is the shorter gearing and the quicker shifts with the gearbox. Good fun to race against Graham. The green Porsche is a 964 Turbo. He is running in the 80ties class while the TR8 is in the 70ties class. Maybe one day he is in range. Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Paul MacDonald [mailto:macdonaldp@rogers.com] Gesendet: Sonntag, 19. Oktober 2014 22:47 An: 'Christian Marx'; 'FOT' Cc: Paul MacDonald Betreff: RE: [Fot] N|rburging with IMSA TR8 Great fun watching. Do you have any details on the other TR7/8 racing? Was the green Porsche at the end in your class, if not, no one passed you all race and made it stick. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Christian Marx Sent: October 19, 2014 3:10 PM To: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] N|rburging with IMSA TR8 Did I forget the link? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdwWXIm8zwM Am 19.10.2014 20:18 schrieb "MadMarx" : > Hi Friends, > > I was part of a race with a strong field of fast cars and drivers. > Many Porsches. > I managed to finished 2nd in class. > Was good fun and some new stuff learned about this car. > It is really more complicated that I thought. > > Cheers > Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/macdonaldp@rogers.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 15:54:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6677F2584DE2 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 15:54:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f175.google.com (mail-lb0-f175.google.com [209.85.217.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD87A25802EE for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 15:46:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f175.google.com with SMTP id u10so2978780lbd.34 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 14:49:59 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=RvWDB/Nn6O6jvpsmeeOg/jkeMnrP+Dj9+haw4H6LvHk=; b=pDI3S9nw+rJxDKlesJ0lFlZws/HTJ03FYHDUYqGPZNy/QO+s1M0xPdGafdwnZObvKD Xm5G4Rnd4lEX6+XgBsSXOGBNFuZEHVPxhAO707om2FHfHjeiUYa/bLE59RJcnzS/DnvA TI90wKR9ZrdpvQu53MHse6qrdjwmT/cGQO/JE1gm2YN+jRyw7lbuAv+6yMEk2JDTkGfv 6fVGs1wUwC0qkOBXcYbbjh/nQJ7Tg0HUIY1xR5qKVoEVwwm4nziXsiboe/dkipr5oO3E +HeO+w/ucIyLOvHyOwjFaXNUUjiknzDA9w02i/CNaylOKKR23ElY0X71iEvQbXIF03BR y+ag== pv5mr23159159lbb.52.1413755399207; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 14:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.128.204 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 14:49:59 -0700 (PDT) References: <267c2e078c434569b7db9db4871bf164@BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 19:49:59 -0200 From: Dick Stockton To: Michael Moore Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Watkins Glen Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Had a good weekend, thought some people might interested in a different view of Watkins Glen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGrwDJ-f8VQ Dick On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Michael Moore wrote: > VRG finished up season at Watkins Glen last weekend, the weather was > beautiful. If you're looking for a low key, reasonably priced, good seat > time > event, this is it. > > In group 2 we had 5 Triumphs finishing in the top 10 for most races out of > 25-30 cars, pretty impressive. > Dick Stockton TR4 > Dave Miller TR4 > Scott Janzen GT6 > Mike Moore TR4 > John Styduhar TR3 > > Brian Schirano was also running his TR6, and Dale Oesterle was dominant in > Group 1 in his Spitfire. > > Dick had his car out for the 1st time in 2 years after an extensive rebuild > after it was buried in Hurricane Sandy. He and the car were unbelievably > fast. > > Poor Henry Fry worked like crazy to get his Beady Eye TR3 ready for the > weekend, only to break a trailer axle on the way, and never made it. > > > Thanks > Mike > > Michael T. Moore, CPA > 2007 West 32nd Street > Erie, PA 16508 > > Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 > Fax: 814-864-7383 > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of > image001.gif] > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/stocktontr4@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 16:24:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA88E2585AF5 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 16:24:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f44.google.com (mail-wg0-f44.google.com [74.125.82.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9822580771 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 16:19:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id y10so4163272wgg.15 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 15:23:13 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=KJ3Od8z0P4APjgeHYm1a37S5WzeddomE1ybtd6T/1oc=; b=I5+pxwR6kS48BhxkQy+rd7Xr/6BH302Tk6DDLrMPOV1/ZqjgqRt4BT/7XZBVeFK0yS xLreTAunwBadH5lCP2v0hf0oePEVuLRyBb6tppkxWe2a4n5Yub0+DWW1lAwZ2k27oyV/ 9swb7JC5XC1PdgpCxRIs80Rcy0Wg4fwAhjmwdTUwKv6XOVtD81XrD7jbz2snyafnPkzn k/wjHepnYy1DDFL9dk0HAEANLhY7XrU1Tx/AXnbrv7ajIEQ+x+wP7gElo1Sg3OfGj+Oh OeFSVrqBYU5K7bK0TNowF0CFDW5wpHQBaAyPbh6qvjGyskecrdEqIa3oUYUfE2TTe6vp blDw== nd13mr12785105wic.71.1413757392877; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 15:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.165.235.14]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id dq4sm6591280wid.4.2014.10.19.15.23.12 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 19 Oct 2014 15:23:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'FOT'" References: <002501cfebc9$0d02b9b0$27082d10$@com> <007a01cfebdd$c99f16e0$5cdd44a0$@rogers.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 00:23:18 +0200 Thread-Index: AQHx3MactRSv2LvuEjZ8rA79Wq6CLQO5vUxqAeEUWKEDHz5YDpuuMMiQgAAbfWA= Content-Language: de Subject: [Fot] =?iso-8859-1?q?N=FCrburging_with_IMSA_TR8?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net And this is race 2. On this one I was 1.5 seconds faster. http://youtu.be/avCeaegzomE Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 19:41:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AEB92585BEC for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 19:41:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp05.bis6.us.blackberry.com (smtp05.bis6.us.blackberry.com [74.82.85.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A3292580B6B for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 19:41:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from b4.c8.bise6.blackberry ([192.168.0.104]) by srs.bis6.us.blackberry.com (8.13.7 TEAMON/8.13.7) with ESMTP id s9K1fIlE021586 for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 01:44:25 GMT Sensitivity: Normal To: "FOT" From: gasket.works@gte.net Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 01:43:56 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Non race Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I know this list is not intended for non-race stuff... The movie "Fury" is arguably about as brutal and realistic as the actual last month of WW2. My father was liberated from Ebensee concentration camp by a similar three tank group led by a battered platoon of Patton's third army. It was led by Sgt. Bob Persinger. He had no idea what was in front of him that day as his tanks lugged up the hill to the stench of death. My father and his brother survived that camp but just barely. . My uncle was considered dead and was in a pile of other naked dead bodies. He was too weak to move. My father found him and asked for the Sgts help and together they freed him. About five years ago the three met again for a reunion in San Diego. First time since that day of liberation first week of May 1945. My uncle retold the story. Bob's tank was the Lady Luck. Photo's and more @ loudunst.com/liberation As a side note; In the movie Fury the tank rounds were actually hand made and supplied to the set by US Prop Maker Aaron Dunst (my son). Sgt Bob and Uncle Lou continue to speak to each other on the phone weekly. M Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 20:10:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912DA2585C5B for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 20:10:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bcs.bcshost.com (bcs.bcshost.com [192.254.176.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1D32580A07 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 20:08:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail-oi0-f54.google.com ([209.85.218.54]:53630) by bcs.bcshost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Xg2Rs-0000yj-IR for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 21:11:52 -0500 Received: by mail-oi0-f54.google.com with SMTP id v63so3029026oia.27 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 19:11:51 -0700 (PDT) f9mr20232667oeq.17.1413771111200; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 19:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.240.107 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 19:11:51 -0700 (PDT) References: <1785823125-1413769464-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-511293499-@b4.c8.bise6.blackberry> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 21:11:51 -0500 From: Joe Alexander To: "gasket.works@gte.net" with any abuse report joe@the-vintage-racer.com Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Non race Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mordy, I ordered the book and looking forward to reading it. Thanks for sharing this. On Sunday, October 19, 2014, wrote: > I know this list is not intended for non-race stuff... > > The movie "Fury" is arguably about as brutal and realistic as the actual > last month of WW2. My father was liberated from Ebensee concentration camp > by a similar three tank group led by a battered platoon of Patton's third > army. It was led by Sgt. Bob Persinger. He had no idea what was in front > of him that day as his tanks lugged up the hill to the stench of death. > My father and his brother survived that camp but just barely. . My uncle > was considered dead and was in a pile of other naked dead bodies. He was > too weak to move. My father found him and asked for the Sgts help and > together they freed him. About five years ago the three met again for a > reunion in San Diego. First time since that day of liberation first week > of May 1945. > > My uncle retold the story. > > Bob's tank was the Lady Luck. Photo's and more @ > loudunst.com/liberation > > As a side note; > In the movie Fury the tank rounds were actually hand made and supplied to > the set by US Prop Maker Aaron Dunst (my son). > > Sgt Bob and Uncle Lou continue to speak to each other on the phone weekly. > > M > > > > > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joe@the-vintage-racer.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 20:11:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F3D2584B0A for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 20:11:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637AF2580A07 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 20:11:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.36.193]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0NDQ005XE0W2BC40@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 21:14:28 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: , "FOT" References: <1785823125-1413769464-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-511293499-@b4.c8.bise6.blackberry> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 22:14:32 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] Non race Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Great story, thanks for the info. I plan on seeing Fury. There's a movie about Louie Zamperini coming out soon, Unbroken I think is the name of it. Can't find my copy of the book to verify. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "FOT" Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:43 PM Subject: [Fot] Non race >I know this list is not intended for non-race stuff... > > The movie "Fury" is arguably about as brutal and realistic as the actual > last month of WW2. My father was liberated from Ebensee concentration > camp by a similar three tank group led by a battered platoon of Patton's > third army. It was led by Sgt. Bob Persinger. He had no idea what was in > front of him that day as his tanks lugged up the hill to the stench of > death. > My father and his brother survived that camp but just barely. . My uncle > was considered dead and was in a pile of other naked dead bodies. He was > too weak to move. My father found him and asked for the Sgts help and > together they freed him. About five years ago the three met again for a > reunion in San Diego. First time since that day of liberation first week > of May 1945. > > My uncle retold the story. > > Bob's tank was the Lady Luck. Photo's and more @ > loudunst.com/liberation > > As a side note; > In the movie Fury the tank rounds were actually hand made and supplied to > the set by US Prop Maker Aaron Dunst (my son). > > Sgt Bob and Uncle Lou continue to speak to each other on the phone weekly. > > M > > > > > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 20:15:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93962585CA9 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 20:15:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-11v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-11v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C342584515 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 20:14:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.230]) by resqmta-po-11v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 5EHz1p0014yXVJQ01EJECj; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 02:18:14 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-503v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.178.3]) by resomta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 5EGE1p00C04nC6y01EGEdo; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 02:16:14 +0000 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 02:16:14 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: "Christian, Chris" References: <002501cfebc9$0d02b9b0$27082d10$@com> <007a01cfebdd$c99f16e0$5cdd44a0$@rogers.com> <002d01cfebeb$497fade0$dc7f09a0$@com> Thread-Topic: =?utf-8?Q?N=C3=BCrburging?= with IMSA TR8 Thread-Index: AQHx3MactRSv2LvuEjZ8rA79Wq6CLQO5vUxqAeEUWKEDHz5YDpuuMMiQgAAbfWCV5CmUqg== s=q20140121; t=1413771494; bh=C/CXDl4BQzqHL+1bkiv+C811fkqufm1c/MtnY2lIKCc=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=BpamkTllak2pa6cWqnAA9zp8NbcBsRjsC/7JdGCZyEHQVGjeyW5yPo22dkqGZSTv6 yXq/JDmMtHyb2bNgrJjx0yQwSzKkp1lFaNbCdjyITjH7KkrjUEFN9oND3g8km51/hl aMtRyaxiteHEkJQ3o2KcAu4BqfgbA4TBllbZBZRNi4dNh5FahgYRc7xrrGkwIPRAWQ fm1Pj8yQfG/GptY6aFPEiXCyTQ8k2WoArQ1lEWslywCxEij8soUd8jbtxjLEIzSrRS ymSUOl3d16tiYH4/DJSuKZh54Jg39ftyQR/n7c6mIrotYi7MdpO1WvbXWBEiQGn3YU 05kvY1GcBD1IQ== Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?N=C3=BCrburging_with_IMSA_TR8?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Really nice, Chris. You make the car sound and look great. Thanks for sharing and keep them coming. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian, Chris" To: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:23:18 PM Subject: [Fot] NC Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDDAE2584CAE for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 20:26:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809A12584515 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 20:18:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [65.25.182.78] ([65.25.182.78:32843] helo=[192.168.100.99]) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id EA/04-31207-AA174445; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 02:21:30 +0000 From: Allen Washatko To: gasket.works@gte.net Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 21:21:28 -0500 References: <1785823125-1413769464-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-511293499-@b4.c8.bise6.blackberry> Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Non race Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mordy, Incredibly powerful story. I greatly respect Uncle Lou's outlook and philosophy despite the terror and agony he went through. Would enjoy meeting Sgt. Bob someday as he lives in my hometown of Rockford. Thanks for sharing this experience. Allen On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:43 PM, gasket.works@gte.net wrote: > I know this list is not intended for non-race stuff... > > The movie "Fury" is arguably about as brutal and realistic as the > actual last month of WW2. My father was liberated from Ebensee > concentration camp by a similar three tank group led by a battered > platoon of Patton's third army. It was led by Sgt. Bob Persinger. > He had no idea what was in front of him that day as his tanks lugged > up the hill to the stench of death. > My father and his brother survived that camp but just barely. . My > uncle was considered dead and was in a pile of other naked dead > bodies. He was too weak to move. My father found him and asked for > the Sgts help and together they freed him. About five years ago > the three met again for a reunion in San Diego. First time since > that day of liberation first week of May 1945. > > My uncle retold the story. > > Bob's tank was the Lady Luck. Photo's and more @ > loudunst.com/liberation > > As a side note; > In the movie Fury the tank rounds were actually hand made and > supplied to the set by US Prop Maker Aaron Dunst (my son). > > Sgt Bob and Uncle Lou continue to speak to each other on the phone > weekly. > > M > > > > > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/awashatko@wi.rr.com > > Jody & Allen Washatko W51 N664 Highland Drive Cedarburg, WI. 53012 USA tel. (262) 617-6801 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 20:26:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8868D2584CF7 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 20:26:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bcs.bcshost.com (bcs.bcshost.com [192.254.176.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A912225806FD for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 20:22:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail-oi0-f48.google.com ([209.85.218.48]:59494) by bcs.bcshost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Xg2fg-00012O-Co for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 21:26:08 -0500 Received: by mail-oi0-f48.google.com with SMTP id g201so2965403oib.7 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 19:26:07 -0700 (PDT) c4mr20950181oen.9.1413771967094; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 19:26:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.240.107 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 19:26:07 -0700 (PDT) References: <1785823125-1413769464-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-511293499-@b4.c8.bise6.blackberry> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 21:26:07 -0500 From: Joe Alexander To: Bill Tobin with any abuse report joe@the-vintage-racer.com Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Non race Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I read Unbroken a couple years ago. Outstanding book. Truly outstanding. On Sunday, October 19, 2014, Bill Tobin wrote: > Great story, thanks for the info. > I plan on seeing Fury. > There's a movie about Louie Zamperini coming out soon, Unbroken I think is > the name of it. Can't find my copy of the book to verify. > Cheers, Bill > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: "FOT" > Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:43 PM > Subject: [Fot] Non race > > > I know this list is not intended for non-race stuff... >> >> The movie "Fury" is arguably about as brutal and realistic as the actual >> last month of WW2. My father was liberated from Ebensee concentration camp >> by a similar three tank group led by a battered platoon of Patton's third >> army. It was led by Sgt. Bob Persinger. He had no idea what was in front >> of him that day as his tanks lugged up the hill to the stench of death. >> My father and his brother survived that camp but just barely. . My uncle >> was considered dead and was in a pile of other naked dead bodies. He was >> too weak to move. My father found him and asked for the Sgts help and >> together they freed him. About five years ago the three met again for a >> reunion in San Diego. First time since that day of liberation first week >> of May 1945. >> >> My uncle retold the story. >> >> Bob's tank was the Lady Luck. Photo's and more @ >> loudunst.com/liberation >> >> As a side note; >> In the movie Fury the tank rounds were actually hand made and supplied to >> the set by US Prop Maker Aaron Dunst (my son). >> >> Sgt Bob and Uncle Lou continue to speak to each other on the phone weekly. >> >> M >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ >> options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net >> > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ > options/fot/joe@the-vintage-racer.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 21:56:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23CFF258559B for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 21:56:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E3B525809E2 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 21:56:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([unknown] [71.116.36.193]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0NDQ00JBP5QRA330@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 22:59:17 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Joe Alexander" References: <1785823125-1413769464-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-511293499-@b4.c8.bise6.blackberry> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 23:59:20 -0400 Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Non race Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe, you may want to read Operation Plum, about the Air Corps in the Phillipines early in WW2. A high school pal's father in law was part of that group. Interesting read. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Alexander To: Bill Tobin Cc: gasket.works@gte.net ; FOT Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Non race I readB Unbroken a couple years ago. Outstanding book. Truly outstanding. On Sunday, October 19, 2014, Bill Tobin wrote: Great story, thanks for the info. I plan on seeing Fury. There's a movie about Louie Zamperini coming out soon, Unbroken I think is the name of it. Can't find my copy of the book to verify. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "FOT" Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:43 PM Subject: [Fot] Non race I know this list is not intended for non-race stuff... The movie "Fury" is arguably about as brutal and realistic as the actual last month of WW2.B My father was liberated from Ebensee concentration camp by a similar three tank group led byB a batteredB platoon of Patton's third army.B It was led by Sgt. Bob Persinger.B He had no idea what was in front of him that day as his tanks lugged up the hill to the stench of death. My father and his brother survived that camp but just barely. .B My uncle was considered dead and was in a pile of other naked dead bodies.B He was too weak to move.B My father found him and asked for the Sgts help and together they freed him.B B About five years ago the three met again for a reunion inB San Diego.B First time since that day of liberation first week of May 1945. My uncle retold the story. Bob's tank was the Lady Luck. Photo's and more @ loudunst.com/liberation As a side note; In the movie Fury the tank rounds were actually hand made and supplied to the set by US Prop Maker Aaron Dunst (my son). Sgt Bob and Uncle Lou continue to speak to each other on the phone weekly. M Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joe@the-vintage-racer.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 20 11:29:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B692584EB2 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 11:29:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC16D2584B2C for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 11:28:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20141020173156.TCEP23400.mta21.charter.net@imp11> for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:31:56 -0400 Received: from mtaout006.msg.strl.va.charter.net ([68.114.190.31]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id 5VXw1p0050h5dSU05VXwTm; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:31:56 -0400 Received: from impout006 ([68.114.189.21]) by mtaout006.msg.strl.va.charter.net (InterMail vM.9.00.013.00 201-2473-140) with ESMTP id <20141020173156.PXFY12712.mtaout006.msg.strl.va.charter.net@impout006> for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 12:31:56 -0500 Received: from [10.21.210.213] ([12.237.211.146]) by impout006 with charter.net id 5VXv1p00C3A4TJc01VXvCR; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 12:31:56 -0500 a=dWEdh2DflHZlElH6djp9Qg==:117 a=dWEdh2DflHZlElH6djp9Qg==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=tcnv99F1KMcA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=1awb2MJmbMT7aGNVVj4A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=PTnLW9IThRYA:10 a=r8s_mlNoYgkA:10 a=p-Dqbn_8-HkA:10 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 12:31:53 -0500 From: David Kettler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] TR3 clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have a friend who does Auto X in his TR3. He is looking for a clutch assembly that is less prone to slipping than the stock setup. He has also broken the hardened pins holding the clutch fork to the shaft. Any recommendations? Thanks Dave Kettler _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 20 11:43:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7711B2584F7D for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 11:43:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f41.google.com (mail-la0-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6382584E69 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 11:36:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id pn19so4368042lab.14 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 10:40:06 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=O6PjOPEwLLtsXQKTuRctUivCrFHqs3AidOtmJ8XsbMg=; b=DBP9Qu/MzlQfQh78tXY7+2CmHZK9okYdlmlr8abF65EDkbJSdcanYnir5LcsPEusyH 73QbpavCZCFvYMFrePdwajA9ihHKYPZZDDSbgxkRcXio8HOJBpf4Rqg2KttUVVrCXQeB YKVzIxv8yHVBVHjnb3G9LXjx3ahxpFa51pyKrlnqyE5tjDmhumCf9effuXFVD3fgo81S YPWPd9KwYmoIlW4aqLGek6HMp/gVqpFR5HljsasXRWqDeRP99qxi0iXo4d+x8MRvBmVH yJ2sZgE2mdQ6zW3QuvVKk93rmeF6YMD68ZkMcq20QFWSdeN6XKK5+eolpBtd2B7Z2kVJ QpwQ== ge10mr28794138lbc.23.1413826805751; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 10:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.165.235.14]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id oh4sm3510029lbc.19.2014.10.20.10.40.04 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 20 Oct 2014 10:40:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <54454709.4000301@charter.net> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 19:40:08 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac/si9erywDVeXKqRJ6S0PCIPPkvaAAAP6TQ Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I say only one word: Tilton :-) Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von David Kettler Gesendet: Montag, 20. Oktober 2014 19:32 An: Friends of Triumph Betreff: [Fot] TR3 clutch I have a friend who does Auto X in his TR3. He is looking for a clutch assembly that is less prone to slipping than the stock setup. He has also broken the hardened pins holding the clutch fork to the shaft. Any recommendations? Thanks Dave Kettler _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 20 11:44:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A9F625850A8 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 11:44:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.o2.co.uk (jabba.london.02.net [82.132.130.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DDAD2584E69 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 11:39:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.8.17.218] (82.132.214.126) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.5.140.03) id 54451782001D2FFE; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:42:56 +0100 References: <54454709.4000301@charter.net> From: TR4 Tony Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:42:52 +0100 To: David Kettler Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Dave I use a helix sprung paddle clutch and an ap racing high pressure cover on my rally TR4 so this arrangement is going to stand up to the sort of rigours of auto crossing as we end up doing some tight and nadgery 'tests' on events quite often. This assembly operates more or less as a standard spring clutch but just a bit more on / off with little travel. the 4 pods of material on the paddle driven plate are ceramettalic so stand up to hard starts and big sharp rear end turns on full power quite well. I'm getting a year or 10000 rally miles out of a 3 part assembly. The covers are long serving but the bearings tend to get hammered. Careful where you but as much trash abounds ... Mine come from TR Enterprises in the UK. Look for www.triumphspecialtuning.co.uk Regards Tony Sent from my iPhone > On 20 Oct 2014, at 18:31, David Kettler wrote: > > I have a friend who does Auto X in his TR3. He is looking for a clutch assembly that is less prone to slipping than the stock setup. He has also broken the hardened pins holding the clutch fork to the shaft. > > Any recommendations? > > Thanks > > Dave Kettler > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 20 12:29:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C761D2584C67 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 12:29:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f174.google.com (mail-qc0-f174.google.com [209.85.216.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85AD02580851 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 12:20:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f174.google.com with SMTP id m20so4137913qcx.19 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 11:23:37 -0700 (PDT) h=from:content-type:mime-version:subject:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=98gfbIlgLzeem2DbTObyCtpRIDDiAj93Bn04nOjcb2M=; b=XKxwOsUrjlH+Za+lnkcROgUq7322jwjFAQSziUQl4rHvBRKCNfdaW82HKY4uE18LyU 0Ik0Wpu387Sq7KZuTodyRQV3TNyhbgIqet3FMsMwuk/I2pC4vWFsfe6PBrrJ9Wwzs1bg 1E2URZdk/tdvs1kI3Gymd1cyLQPNq0EHPex7WssXAshVnPr87eyVaxCgGAZoCNdGyCHL S906fVQlnRaaK32maoN6P+CmAz5Br2jXej0B8j3d9MBoBCGTs82fKY/lINs06q2XjXIa XQaX3eBNukXq2W4mlbd8+GtPv7CsxzmCw/eKWFlJcauPMJ3ttqJYP8zCiDbvr7ZioDw3 GdQw== 97mr36238761qgm.12.1413829417573; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 11:23:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.5] (c-50-134-55-106.hsd1.va.comcast.net. [50.134.55.106]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r1sm1203930qam.30.2014.10.20.11.23.37 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 20 Oct 2014 11:23:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "J.C. Hassall" Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:23:36 -0400 References: <54454709.4000301@charter.net> To: David Kettler Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Dave, I use the TR4A clutch and PP (the diaphragm type), which has held up well. WRT the hardened pin, drill the fork and shaft to insert a 0.25 hardened bolt. ISTR that the procedure is described on the Buckeye Triumphs site. If you can't find it, let me know Jim Fat-thumbed from my iPhone > On Oct 20, 2014, at 1:31 PM, David Kettler wrote: > > I have a friend who does Auto X in his TR3. He is looking for a clutch assembly that is less prone to slipping than the stock setup. He has also broken the hardened pins holding the clutch fork to the shaft. > > Any recommendations? > > Thanks > > Dave Kettler > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhassall@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 20 12:30:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C9B25852AF for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 12:30:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm8.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm8.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E27332580851 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 12:22:10 -0600 (MDT) s=s1024; t=1413829526; bh=8SzvaQbCI7l4YqPNOhjK1d76qEDyn/3XgoFMSH267DY=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From:Subject; b=iLwZ5QYpcKb7ZsBNOuunji033ibfUaP7A/ZJaFvJAlkLqQZgxk9AhMbIIBBuqmEgFUidddzx1KA7K/DNjZOil/OHeG9PihxcX59uY0vCwCnvZZJr9v+3ErfNdOXhoho/Ty9ELVuwb6bATWK9BO0AHYtWkakSpZk2M022IqZH25s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; b=EiPd/w8+QgFL5QIqId03ArEJQZR8o/DaV6sx18vK/5n1kVBRlkMOfw6l+ufWP/jZCmLe9QxZrTjYd6768CIKDfous8b4IbdvyZOWH7DpvlwYLqe7a5mA/LcpN0b8dl+jciz9s0jANiM/1XREuLl0Gzfzt+lojrigPsH5Ap3Ue6A=; Received: from [66.196.81.155] by nm19.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Oct 2014 18:25:26 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.242] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Oct 2014 18:25:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp113.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Oct 2014 18:25:26 -0000 s=s1024; t=1413829526; bh=8SzvaQbCI7l4YqPNOhjK1d76qEDyn/3XgoFMSH267DY=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=bqN2gO06+djq0mg52gAEx8OAv2LipsmxArMHFI3ckMYzO/2htZDTQjWerzaWchSWTOmFjopmVBkm0rbz+/6BWA33I68obAnuDite4F/cFGWwP+t0GqeV6j6Pbvh6iWhgm6OB1MjSAP+MA40ZPuf/BLdCwmgtE7KLgjs3GpazVFw= uRF3xM20kBKWS5f7TsJ0UyyH9f9IGmBj6rk.SqKZgjqA0Drhr5TFIkHN.su8 HlYhOs40B6y8b.FFtBOT33I56UkUbGyr39aTDbPsjgFlr7pddint41Yvn87X fMte95ymS0DmIeu1mvG48Lce0trvk_kuMzlfJCeurLFlXo3rIA5rvNo6S5Cx oB.lPEwMYP_YhfStUJ2gS586LL548KIpTl1c.qApvCQm_WObceDWKzNWmAqz x0hBMgDogt.53xuQwQ27Wsg7FK2goCGhmICyHnruHgXSsWSDiwmC3WS_fssd vgsTawkCEcrzwCJQZlQkyokncOkfnJ.dAWqaokMoY0.XwDJdW7aeQG1PIOQi ern3QR3r22tgVR9et4m4J5Ll4Kp7uoICbKnWSGb7YWFeKfvZQo6DCe9pnFOf OmI1Ytn3xCf8Q9ITJ8yLC4n1UVx0cit1HyasGmxTu0cqVIvW95uatiBb0dGZ mMqcBqmu3QEbrHtFWW24VQ8GMBGyvqh4syvGkRzCqxSfkbhVJpiJ8.piJkst O76wFSx1gJGJlP2_9XwcJFMZ2fZZS7PMk2ZcV.pOIDdFYFwLJ From: Paul Ricco Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:25:24 -0500 References: <54454709.4000301@charter.net> To: David Kettler Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Dave, SCCA wrote an article in November of 2013 about clutch manufacturers. It was helpful to me. We own 2 Tilton race clutch packages, but I wanted something to work with a flywheel and crank that were not the best fit for a Tilton. I spoke with several companies and ordered from SPEC CLUTCH. Spec makes everything in house and in the US. They do not modify stock components. They have 6-7 offerings ranging from street, race, rally, etc. They can build sprung, unsprung, puck, etc. They are very helpful and know about Triumphs, because they already support several Triumph owners. The products that showed up appear to be very well made and came in 4 days from ordering. They will help you on the phone with a configuration for your needs. www.specclutch.com. Good Luck, Paul Ricco On Oct 20, 2014, at 12:31 PM, David Kettler wrote: > I have a friend who does Auto X in his TR3. He is looking for a clutch assembly that is less prone to slipping than the stock setup. He has also broken the hardened pins holding the clutch fork to the shaft. > > Any recommendations? > > Thanks > > Dave Kettler > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 20 15:02:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D85C2580092 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 15:02:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC662580032 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 15:01:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.99.30] ([68.80.11.16]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NDR003RCH8GRA30@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 21:05:07 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-10-20_05:2014-10-20,2014-10-20,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1408290000 definitions=main-1410200201 From: Scott Janzen Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:08:23 -0400 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Kastner 2015 - updates, and we need a big canopy Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Planning is well underway for the Kastner Cup at Summit Point Raceway, May 14-17, 2015. >From a racing perspective, things are pretty well set. The all-Triumph race will be sometime Saturday afternoon, May 16th. Practices start on Thursday, with qualifying and racing beginning on Friday. Registration is a long way off - Vintage Racer Group generally starts this 75-90 days ahead of the event, with a discount for early entries. I will let you know as soon as registration opens, but it's probably February. We've tentatively identified the paddock area for the FOT crowd with the race organizers - for those of you who know Summit, it will be most of the large grassy area in the center of the paddock. For those of you who must be on pavement, not grass, you can set up across from us, off either of the two pit roads paralleling this grassy area. There are electric hook-ups throughout the paddock. With the exception of the area we will control, paddock spaces are first come, first served, with some priority given to the really big rigs that can't maneuver as much. Hotel - I expect to have an announcement on a hotel and room rates shortly. Golf Carts - Rentals are available, but they run $80/day (two seat) and $88/day (4 seat). At this point I only expect FOT will rent one four-seat cart for Kas and Peg. Summit is easy to get around by car/tow vehicle/bicycle, etc, with parking generally not an issue wherever you go. We don't need to make commitments for carts yet, but let me know if you think you will want one for personal use, as the rental company has to deliver them to the track. Canopy - We hope to set up a large canopy in the center of the paddock area for socializing, and probably a Friday night barbecue, maybe even to park a really rare Triumph or two. Canopy rentals are expensive - a 20'x40' costs about $600 for four days. I'm hoping someone who is coming has access to one we could use, instead of renting. I'm not looking for pop-ups, unless they are 10'x20's and we have a couple we can line up. If anyone can help out with the canopy, let me know. Press releases have gone out to most of the clubs and vintage race mags (thanks, Shawn, and to Clark Lincoln for doing a fabulous poster). Spread the word, and we hope you have it on your race calendar for next year. Thanks, Scott _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 20 16:16:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BBA125844FD for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 16:16:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m04.mx.aol.com (omr-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 790AA2580092 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 16:11:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mcc02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mcc02.mx.aol.com [172.26.253.78]) by omr-m04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 76D0870001D7E for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:14:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.105] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mcc02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 22C9C38000089 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:14:29 -0400 (EDT) References: <76209A9705E547EF9DBA64341A544E34@OwnerPC> From: Joe Alexander Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:14:29 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1413843269; bh=gPRAYGu56kn3DAzMc7nOIVWLjtfIk4b4BGpRO73hmxA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=Bxekuf2m7IegAj/D+HB+ryzFw9wfDl6vU+ckPxcWyqoXRs/mPOW/JROnWZCIo2qzY qioD7ehfjf7RWPbPJ7OLOH/2psHRQODInPmWNVefxgWmqfVzZMldfFEDY6nv+xAwgX heLmuXxTnqkT74qPZR5Zv9nuPGWU0yHCeq/ZxU/E= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afd4e544589457307 Subject: [Fot] Fwd: My Status Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT, See below. Bill Rinke is the guy that made our Kastner Cup so special at Topeka. He was also with us at Texas. Joe A Begin forwarded message: > From: "Bill Rinke" > > Subject: My Status > > Hi, > > During a meeting with my surgeon this morning I learned that my cancer is a blockage in the duct from the liver to the gall bladder. A procedure was done last Friday but was not successful in opening it. The only alternative to open the blockage is not feasible or practical. I will begin Hospice shortly. > > Bill _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 20 16:30:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D948258495F for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 16:30:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057782580BA0 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 16:24:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D54B72C013E for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 16:27:58 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 16:27:56 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <76209A9705E547EF9DBA64341A544E34@OwnerPC> Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: My Status Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Oh dear. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 20 16:33:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555DD2584AE8 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 16:33:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from laurent.telenet-ops.be (laurent.telenet-ops.be [195.130.137.89]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE51B25844D1 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 16:32:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([IPv6:2a02:1812:a8f:c00:4c09:9a03:a730:e9e4]) by laurent.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id 5abt1p00W5R2gYW01abxfa; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 00:35:57 +0200 From: "Marcel Van Mulders" To: "'David Kettler'" References: <54454709.4000301@charter.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 00:35:13 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac/si866re+fMAFvQtae67YVuH1MAAAJyqLQ Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The TR4A diaphragm type clutch cover can take much more power than the spring type TR2-TR4. The TR3 flywheel has to be redrilled and you need also the TR4A bearing carrier and release bearing. Moss Europe sells an uprated TR4A cover but the standard Borg and Beck TR4A cover is already much better and also lighter than the TR3 clutch. Part no 158777HDX (12.00#) is an high tensile fork pin from Moss Europe. In racing, I used Helix and Tilton plates and covers. Helix has sprung 7.25" plates with 1" x 23 splines and 1"x 10 splines, Tilton 7.25" are unsprung plates with 1" x 10 splines. Both types need special lightweight flywheels and are very good for standing starts in circuit racing. A standard TR4A cover is about 45 #, an uprated TR4A cover is 5x more expensive. Tilton and Helix systems, inclusive flywheel can easily be 10x more expensive than the standard TR4A(8 1/2") system. Probably the standard TR4A system will do for auto X? With an uprated cover, the clutch will surely not slip. Marcel -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens David Kettler Verzonden: maandag 20 oktober 2014 19:32 Aan: Friends of Triumph Onderwerp: [Fot] TR3 clutch I have a friend who does Auto X in his TR3. He is looking for a clutch assembly that is less prone to slipping than the stock setup. He has also broken the hardened pins holding the clutch fork to the shaft. Any recommendations? Thanks Dave Kettler _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 20 17:00:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B0D25844F4 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:00:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5C0525844EB for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 16:49:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 606BE2C013E for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 16:52:58 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 16:52:58 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: FOT References: Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Fwd: My Status Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Looks like more non-delivery problems. Sigh. mjb. -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [Fot] Fwd: My Status Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:14:29 -0500 From: Joe Alexander To: fot@autox.team.net FOT, See below. Bill Rinke is the guy that made our Kastner Cup so special at Topeka. He was also with us at Texas. Joe A Begin forwarded message: > From: "Bill Rinke" > > Subject: My Status > > Hi, > > During a meeting with my surgeon this morning I learned that my cancer is a blockage in the duct from the liver to the gall bladder. A procedure was done last Friday but was not successful in opening it. The only alternative to open the blockage is not feasible or practical. I will begin Hospice shortly. > > Bill _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 20 17:01:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E7A258499E for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:01:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4371025844EB for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 16:51:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.27.168.249] ([98.27.168.249:53408] helo=VlackTK121647) by dnvrco-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 95/60-27958-D9295445; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 22:54:22 +0000 From: "Jerry Van Vlack" To: "David Kettler" , "Friends of Triumph" References: <54454709.4000301@charter.net> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:54:28 -0400 a=/SXGE5kDesdBB+LWuquHZQ==:117 a=/SXGE5kDesdBB+LWuquHZQ==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=l-TxZ7O1AfrZQMk9XDUA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Several years ago (30+) after being frustrated with TR4A clutch failures I approached the local Borg and Beck rebuilder (now long gone) and he said he'd rebuild my PP using a diaphragm spring from a Rover V-8 PP. He also supplied a new disc that was supposed to be an upgrade but I don't recall what was different from an OE disc. Since then I have not had any clutch issues. I did replace the disc once just because I was in there and thought that I should. Maybe someone out there in TR land knows more about the Rover clutch spring and could jump in with knowledge. I can say I have not had any issues with slippage since then and it's a very positive engagement. JVV -----Original Message----- From: David Kettler Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 1:31 PM To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] TR3 clutch I have a friend who does Auto X in his TR3. He is looking for a clutch assembly that is less prone to slipping than the stock setup. He has also broken the hardened pins holding the clutch fork to the shaft. Any recommendations? Thanks Dave Kettler _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 20 17:01:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68546258495B for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:01:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bcs.bcshost.com (bcs.bcshost.com [192.254.176.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EFAD25844D1 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 16:56:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail-oi0-f48.google.com ([209.85.218.48]:56078) by bcs.bcshost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XgLvI-0007oc-Eu for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:59:32 -0500 Received: by mail-oi0-f48.google.com with SMTP id g201so20071oib.35 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 15:59:31 -0700 (PDT) v6mr25847009obf.30.1413845971097; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 15:59:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.240.107 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 15:59:31 -0700 (PDT) References: <54454709.4000301@charter.net> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:59:31 -0500 From: Joe Alexander To: David Kettler with any abuse report joe@the-vintage-racer.com Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have a drill jig that has been used by me and others to convert the Tr3 flywheel to a diaphragm style. The flywheel should be lightened, while at it. It would seem that a stock set up for diaphragm should be adequate for a few auto crosses a year. We cross drill the fork and shaft. The pin is just not a good design. On Monday, October 20, 2014, David Kettler wrote: > I have a friend who does Auto X in his TR3. He is looking for a clutch > assembly that is less prone to slipping than the stock setup. He has also > broken the hardened pins holding the clutch fork to the shaft. > > Any recommendations? > > Thanks > > Dave Kettler > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ > options/fot/joe@the-vintage-racer.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 20 18:16:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947B725844EB for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:16:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC2S19.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s19.hotmail.com [65.55.111.94]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9310E25844EB for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:16:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU436-SMTP144 ([65.55.111.72]) by BLU004-OMC2S19.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:19:47 -0700 From: Jack Brooks To: "'Friends of Triumph'" References: <54454709.4000301@charter.net> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:19:30 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac/si8zxA/RSH677R7eGD3Wt1FJNqwAN+ATg FILETIME=[B6D37410:01CFECC4] Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've been very happy AutoX'ing the Clutchmasters TR4a-6 clutch kit on a 21 lb modified late flywheel. I crossdrilled the TO Bearing fork on the crosshaft and also seem to recall that the part the TO Bearing rides on needed to be shortened slightly. I'll bet I can find that new dimension if needed. If you are concerned about slippage you can use the SAAB 9000 Turbo pressure plate. It's a match for the TR4a-6 part and I believe it's a bit stronger than the clutchmaster setup I used. Jack -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Kettler Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 10:32 AM To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] TR3 clutch I have a friend who does Auto X in his TR3. He is looking for a clutch assembly that is less prone to slipping than the stock setup. He has also broken the hardened pins holding the clutch fork to the shaft. Any recommendations? Thanks Dave Kettler _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jibrooks@live.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 21 07:07:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 129A62584B6A for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 07:07:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D332580B51 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 07:06:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [107.147.194.78] ([107.147.194.78:40992] helo=[10.0.1.2]) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id D4/28-19964-03B56445; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 13:10:09 +0000 From: Dan Cronin Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 09:10:08 -0400 References: <8D1B9348C2E419A-718-7B46@webmail-vm061.sysops.aol.com> To: Joe Alexander Cc: FOT List Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Remflex exhaust header gaskets......available. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe Any chance you are going to order gaskets that have the 1-1/2" intake? Dan Cronin On Oct 18, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: Steve, that's a great tip. They are expensive. We will be slightly cheaper than Remflex to try to help that out and get more volume. I am also investigating another graphite material to be used in an aircraft turbocharger application that I am working on. I'd like to get the cost down for all of us. It will be awhile for that result, tho. On Saturday, October 18, 2014, wrote: _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 21 07:20:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93FF2584B94 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 07:20:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bcs.bcshost.com (bcs.bcshost.com [192.254.176.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EBB1258499E for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 07:11:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com ([209.85.214.182]:39730) by bcs.bcshost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XgZGS-0003dH-Q7 for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 08:14:16 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id uy5so952683obc.27 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 06:14:15 -0700 (PDT) 184mr2319398oij.66.1413897255387; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 06:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.240.107 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 06:14:15 -0700 (PDT) References: <8D1B9348C2E419A-718-7B46@webmail-vm061.sysops.aol.com> <3B29ACE6-D58E-4DAB-8955-1ABE824A3E14@mi.rr.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 08:14:15 -0500 From: Joe Alexander To: Dan Cronin with any abuse report joe@the-vintage-racer.com Cc: FOT List Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Remflex exhaust header gaskets......available. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Dan, These are sized for the TR4. 1.5" inlet. We have them. Thanks. Joe A On Tuesday, October 21, 2014, Dan Cronin wrote: > Joe > Any chance you are going to order gaskets that have the 1-1/2" intake? > Dan Cronin > > On Oct 18, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Joe Alexander > wrote: > > Steve, that's a great tip. They are expensive. We will be slightly cheaper > than Remflex to try to help that out and get more volume. > > I am also investigating another graphite material to be used in an > aircraft turbocharger application that I am working on. I'd like to get the > cost down for all of us. It will be awhile for that result, tho. > > On Saturday, October 18, 2014, > wrote: _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 21 08:34:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D942584C5A for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 08:34:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bcs.bcshost.com (bcs.bcshost.com [192.254.176.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0786C25845EB for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 08:24:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f180.google.com ([209.85.214.180]:61015) by bcs.bcshost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XgaPt-00042G-IJ for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 09:28:05 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f180.google.com with SMTP id va2so1060266obc.25 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 07:28:04 -0700 (PDT) z1mr30245435obx.35.1413901684274; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 07:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.240.107 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 07:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 09:28:04 -0500 From: Joe Alexander To: "fot@autox.team.net" with any abuse report joe@the-vintage-racer.com Subject: [Fot] Niehaus Restoration Products. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Over the years, Uncle Jack and I had Keith Niehaus do an enormous amount of work for us. Not always cheap and not always on time, but always first class. He used this experience to develop replacement panels and ARE helped him turn it into a business. The latest piece is the leading edge of the rear fender of the TR4/6. Because of some compound shapes, it is among the most difficult to craft, but it is to his standards. Using my TR3, he has started to develop some of those panels. Anyway, if you want to salvage some body parts for your racer, you might check into his website, Moss, VB, TRF, and soon to be at BPNW. Joe A. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Joe Alexander* Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 Subject: Fwd: Prices are falling along with the leaves. 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John H. Hasty | MULLEN HOLLAND & COOPER P.A. Attorney at Law 301 South York Street (zip: 28052) P.O. Box 488 Gastonia, NC 28053-0488 Telephone: 704.864.6751 | Facsimile: 704.861.8394 JHasty@mhc-law.com | www.mhc-law.com -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Ricco Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 2:25 PM To: David Kettler Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 clutch Dave, SCCA wrote an article in November of 2013 about clutch manufacturers. It was helpful to me. We own 2 Tilton race clutch packages, but I wanted something to work with a flywheel and crank that were not the best fit for a Tilton. I spoke with several companies and ordered from SPEC CLUTCH. Spec makes everything in house and in the US. They do not modify stock components. They have 6-7 offerings ranging from street, race, rally, etc. They can build sprung, unsprung, puck, etc. They are very helpful and know about Triumphs, because they already support several Triumph owners. The products that showed up appear to be very well made and came in 4 days from ordering. They will help you on the phone with a configuration for your needs. www.specclutch.com. Good Luck, Paul Ricco On Oct 20, 2014, at 12:31 PM, David Kettler wrote: > I have a friend who does Auto X in his TR3. He is looking for a > clutch assembly that is less prone to slipping than the stock setup. He has also broken the hardened pins holding the clutch fork to the shaft. > > Any recommendations? > > Thanks > > Dave Kettler > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco@att.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 21 09:05:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63FD22584CB8 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 09:05:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.99]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE5E258457F for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 09:05:43 -0600 (MDT) s=s1024; t=1413904140; bh=HlcojRsaWFAvncQ6oZPj3Qrg9wWj8MdrqKp7eoUviB0=; h=From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=FRJEa3GhDChfyUnft6k+f/8fugu+WoUQVMkBnN82860s/4bUjwvDsmOqjogEEhY61DkeS2WfUgIMEH9Ouy6xwlBjJIPQYb4MsgYaQ7Psr9pTt5c3PQpfMgBEtp6U6C8AsibSqdNvqne5e8ZEKJD1LNl/BozWV/DIYwOo6oPwcLo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; b=HjnZ6ALDr39YZCsje+1iWIkgUvGnUYCiNuFI5iwaALKCoZf+XF4fx9lYeGyyR96RTcQVPzgsZBR53zpzFChERVy3nTnjE2J/zAXGIQOc5IxtqPOFgoMohJZXcMul0zipJOQgECyMqWiQyq7WS4n/dCMbeD7HopzWnHRjZeqRlkE=; Received: from [66.196.81.159] by nm19.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Oct 2014 15:09:00 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.250] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Oct 2014 15:09:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp120.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Oct 2014 15:09:00 -0000 s=s1024; t=1413904140; bh=HlcojRsaWFAvncQ6oZPj3Qrg9wWj8MdrqKp7eoUviB0=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=BPXzLkqqNgB0HqqeJ7l2OH4pczrTFIYaLSaqyFWcpH9FWzLVCV8uSI+EQaJs7cwWaiX037oUGang/bhp/dpeY6z3hTns5bUWE97feP/BBxFuHouu67zUIkd/PKg7WgTMXT7j506mMqmPMUX5VzBZfROzXb1VinRK5ZhxMXyipDg= UzpV6Lo89Pt9TTJqCvPSniprjD3Hd19OlUcnAQFM5g1.1nVXqh0GOpqaqxMX 588fD2YmJHTXUaBlQszAK.._YiEsnyrEUkEZY_ACFry5EbBVqZ65RuGDAGWC pmH.AvmOrh_xCy.7FA58YY3UeHf7qTCDI4g7uYe0Dfc9PRBYEn5cHoGMNS.j L7sA0NSJ2WE5z1ktK0bPhomiaXKun7.Dq1dQWdkgXwAbKvNmVE7mcKtPjUCj UNpNWhE8uNiAPUAxw2EjTichh9HLQgcnu_pL4CdFM.fasxMffaelv8Py4yTA _GRil_APnSRh1qqlQn10mKtFDx.PIoe0Ua_twNimZO7EOOjrSEqnd3tOjaR7 iecYo0tOZD_XCs23DrW13qO6WOdPuDmxURpvNLlzcTckFNYO2TY2TpoHgvNq uIfl_72bYWvmNFUfdetjWIgoD.psV1IuqVkkRfFZE1g4.8BNQXHBGoZ33DI0 zrJTVun7f_MQT3qa7PlXidcRsq.EfAAEuh0HTxIbZYVRQSfILJM5I5BOHBil snfbM7ToPRGTU4T9.EVzYUnK3hCxSigo1UhSp4xANi2ODleayCFf6F0VAG8d 4Vs69l6.9ozenwRBkPEYBonVSfjQrVK5IuCeC3RY0dDTm63r2o9ONYmraunS fVZG2Pj.nGAYyphIAJ64cEWV9nrHzGu_vQbz2h_IRU99RupDg32N.xMtKDtu Vab2IRtYODIM1Wf_M From: "Paul MacDonald" To: "'Christian Marx'" , "'FOT'" References: <002501cfebc9$0d02b9b0$27082d10$@com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 11:08:56 -0400 Thread-Index: AQHx3MactRSv2LvuEjZ8rA79Wq6CLQO5vUxqAeEUWKEDHz5YDpuw96ZA Content-Language: en-ca Subject: Re: [Fot] =?iso-8859-1?q?N=FCrburging_with_IMSA_TR8?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-29706473 More competition? -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Christian Marx Sent: October 19, 2014 3:10 PM To: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] N|rburging with IMSA TR8 Did I forget the link? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdwWXIm8zwM Am 19.10.2014 20:18 schrieb "MadMarx" : > Hi Friends, > > I was part of a race with a strong field of fast cars and drivers. > Many Porsches. > I managed to finished 2nd in class. > Was good fun and some new stuff learned about this car. > It is really more complicated that I thought. > > Cheers > Chris _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/macdonaldp@rogers.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 21 09:38:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3605A2584D11 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 09:38:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from e39.co.us.ibm.com (e39.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.160]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7234525846EC for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 09:37:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from /spool/local by e39.co.us.ibm.com with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! 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Violators will be prosecuted; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 09:40:44 -0600 Received: from b01cxnp23032.gho.pok.ibm.com (b01cxnp23032.gho.pok.ibm.com [9.57.198.27]) by d01dlp02.pok.ibm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C676E803C for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 11:29:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d01av03.pok.ibm.com (d01av03.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.217]) by b01cxnp23032.gho.pok.ibm.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id s9LFeh292490660 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 15:40:43 GMT Received: from d01av03.pok.ibm.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by d01av03.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id s9LFehjI021489 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 11:40:43 -0400 Received: from d01ml099.pok.ibm.com (d01ml099.pok.ibm.com [9.63.8.34]) by d01av03.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/NCO v10.0 AVin) with ESMTP id s9LFegKV021459 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 11:40:42 -0400 To: fot@autox.team.net From: George Harmuth Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 11:40:35 -0400 9.0.1FP1|April 03, 2014) at 10/21/2014 11:40:44 x-cbid: 14102115-0033-0000-0000-000002686F43 Subject: [Fot] In car videos from new track in Mass Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It looks like Palmer Motorsports Park, in south east Mass, is going to be real. The facility, originally planned (10+ years ago) to be built and run by the SCCA, seems to be real now as another racers playground. With Thompson, re opened last year less than an hour from this track, New Hampshire and Limerock, it's good to live in the Northeast (for at least a few months of the year). Track website: http://www.palmermotorsportspark.com/ There are a few videos out from Palmer last weekend. It looks "interesting" Lots of rock walls, cliffs, maybe a little narrow but it could be fun too, lets see how they finish it and what the run off areas look like. in car videos street car with data collection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7VmLvAVBrI Electric SRF https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fu-hM8FNUI mike h 63 Spitire _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 21 10:35:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99FC72584D3B for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:35:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB1E25845BC for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:29:13 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: dnvrco-oedge03 smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.70.248] ([107.14.70.248:54295] helo=dnvrco-web12) by dnvrco-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 17/D3-27958-D9A86445; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 16:32:29 +0000 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 16:32:29 +0000 From: To: FOT Sensitivity: Normal Oct 2014 16:32:29 +0000 a=wAyFwspFC75BjEd6OtOw1g==:117 a=wAyFwspFC75BjEd6OtOw1g==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=k9IzgLeNAAAA:8 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=Mf1v_7_OAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=4erSaBdQwhd8WnfUeWMA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=T1jTriLPLxoA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=VgdHWzi9AekA:10 Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Fwd: My Status Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bill is a great guy. He came to the September CVAR event at TWS and we had a nice chat, did some catching up but this turn of events worries me. Bill lost his wife after she spent some time in hospice and he told me about the agony of it all. I suspect that he will have trouble staying positive about his stay. Other than email, is there anyone on this list that will be seeing Bill personally? He has a great friend in Walt (I wish I could remember his last name) and Bill told me how much time Walt devoted to helping Bill in that troubling time. I wish I could get up there but maybe all we can do is try to stay in touch........ Bob Kramer rkramer3@austin.rr.com ---- Mark J Bradakis wrote: > Looks like more non-delivery problems. Sigh. > > mjb. > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: [Fot] Fwd: My Status > Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:14:29 -0500 > From: Joe Alexander > To: fot@autox.team.net > > FOT, > > See below. > > Bill Rinke is the guy that made our Kastner Cup so special at Topeka. > > He was also with us at Texas. > > Joe A > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: "Bill Rinke" > > > > Subject: My Status > > > > Hi, > > > > During a meeting with my surgeon this morning I learned that my cancer is a > blockage in the duct from the liver to the gall bladder. A procedure was done > last Friday but was not successful in opening it. The only alternative to > open the blockage is not feasible or practical. I will begin Hospice shortly. > > > > Bill > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 21 10:36:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72BB22584D58 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:36:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (isis.mit.edu [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809C025845BC for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:33:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s9LGaGbV023757; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 12:36:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 12:36:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: John Hasty References: <54454709.4000301@charter.net> Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Plus one for Spec They were very helpful for me (autox tr6) I got a full 10 autocross seasons on one clutch disk / pressure plate and I do very hard launches. Probably did something like 500 autocross runs in that time. Regarding Spec, they even knew the difference that the c/r gearbox uses the 23-spline intput shaft. www.specclutch.com regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 21 12:10:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22DD22584F6C for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 12:10:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f176.google.com (mail-qc0-f176.google.com [209.85.216.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF1F258466C for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 12:05:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f176.google.com with SMTP id r5so1423834qcx.7 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 11:08:25 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SwkvOqBRvBrKvH79tsElDdhx/dWDBzgrU4rtgYOzdGM=; b=wC3RcqgARQoYI8v6WZyiKYwg7V10Gph+gz0QMv10d9Rp5OnGGddPF2iSW3x1DVhTBF LgT7VCgotGHEKc8slIlSLYVcLFfOkBjJEUs0s8Q1g3zu/2ElNQ7hTZc0JO1otL+tnRm+ yCFI2AFHVMzF4+98OdBCJILpBn0Y2JlOq7uIem8BbBoq4VnRgsOt80FmZU4TIxGLr1ff 70PcDmqADLxF/2xJs4rC/N901Mj/vT5lk0fMDQhrm/3k0XoLfHu9ezc2XMsm9UAw5UK9 FUAlWwdZ6EvbhdY1wuV5oW4Y+2raYi0hfmRwbqVHMj23uFfZhSgmTUTZ19rZ9EINy2aH 41Yw== Tue, 21 Oct 2014 11:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.93.46 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 11:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 13:08:25 -0500 From: Irv Korey To: FOT Subject: [Fot] 2015 VTR National Convention Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If you do not have a street TRiumph, or any interest in street TRiumphs, you should delete now. The Illinois Sports Owners Association is pleased to announce that it will host the 2015 Vintage Triumph Register National convention at the Abbey Resort and Conference Center in Fontana, Wisconsin, from Tuesday, August 11, through Friday, August 15, 2015. The site is on the shore of Geneva Lake in scenic southeastern Wisconsin, located in the rolling countryside approximately one hour from the Northwest suburbs of Chicago. The 2015 convention will include such driving events as a gimmick rally, TSD rally, self-guided touring, a breakfast run, an ice cream run, a funkhana, and an autocross. There will also be several clinics, a private guided tour of nearby Mecum Auto Auctions, a welcome party with musical entertainment by the Spinal Tappets [ISOA's house band known for their parody rock classics with a distinctive Triumph slant] and, of course the participants choice and concours car shows. We've also arranged for a "name-the-parts" scavenger hunt/pub crawl, a parts auction, and an excursion boat ride of Geneva Lake. Our guest of honor will be Kas Kastner. *We're grateful to Kas for agreeing to appear.* As a special added attraction, TS1 LO, the first production Triumph TR will be on display at the convention, along with LD 2, the first left-hand drive production Triumph Stag. Mark Macy, the proprietor of Macy's Garage, will be on hand to speak about TS1 and Joe Pawlak, who spearheaded the TTA charity project a few years ago, will speak about the LD2 Stag. There will also be additional clinics on wet liner oil pumps, transmissions, as well as a few other topics still under consideration. We have arranged for a significant discount on room rates at the Abbey for the nights of the 11 through the 15th. To receive the preferred rate you must call the resort (262/275 b 9000) and explain to the operator that you want the Vintage Triumph Register rate. The convention website [www.VTR2015.com] is now up and operative. The website contains a video taken at the Abbey and the surrounding countryside which gives a nice perspective of the area, along with information about local attractions, regalia, and articles on the 2015 featured models-the TR4A and Spitfire Mark II-both of which will celebrate their 50th anniversary next year. There is also a brief biography of Kas reprinted with permission from Moss Motors, and information on our tech presenters. VTR members may register online and pay via PayPal. If you prefer, you may print out a registration form PDF and mail it along with the check to the registrar. You will need to know your VTR membership number and car's commission number to complete the registration. At this time, non-VTR members will have to print the registration form and mail it to the registrar - we're working on a way to allow on-line registration for non-members and hope to a have on-line capability for them soon. VTR members who choose to register online and use PayPal, will receive an immediate confirmation from the convention treasurer stating the total amount their PayPal account has been debited. This will include the registration fee plus any regalia or optional activities they have elected to purchase. If you wish to receive the early registration discount, you must register no later than June 15, 2015. After your registration is processed [3-4 days], the convention registrar will provide you with an itemized list that details your expenses. Mail-in registrations may take a bit longer. The website also contains a list of contacts, including phone numbers and web addresses for local attractions, the registrar, the treasurer, and the convention co-chairs. This will be the sixth VTR convention hosted by ISOA and we hope that our experience from previous events will enable us to provide you with an excellent experience at the 2015 VTR convention. We are looking forward to seeing a large contingent of Triumph enthusiasts next summer and hope that you come away with pleasant memories of a great time. Please feel free to respond to me with any questions or concerns off list if I can be of any assistance. Best regards, Bob Streepy 2015 VTR Convention Co-Chair trstreep@sbcglobal.net 630/263-7565 cell Irv Korey VTR Convention lackey 74 TR6 CF22767U Highland Park, IL _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 21 15:27:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0472584C77 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 15:27:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qg0-f41.google.com (mail-qg0-f41.google.com [209.85.192.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456E52584BEB for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 15:01:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qg0-f41.google.com with SMTP id a108so1608369qge.0 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 14:04:50 -0700 (PDT) h=from:content-type:mime-version:subject:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=2fDpjoq3TvS5dCOi8kN8kMkvdsuNaNoCgWI7cYy9oTQ=; b=zeLQs8DvquCPzVFDEZavFnukQJVUWWeDHueXSy7NC6sNiASxhOk/0Hn/MyIoFKUKmT BOLjc6+dHjokScCsebThcFzPOqiMDwXNVH/orGZpDgOLOE1uh02bUL5z5mn+iLqd1s6k QvN963WGRKZaqluePj0LTXMyLbMBEDuLa5FB+BBbe1S5PXZxwKBB28hX4BAvNey+m08N N/nUyHE/R4EW3/C0w7UA9o50RGRniMOwd+rgq2hYeZO6/l10wqOobYU0hrMQ4ANjfZim fbE1mSEEVFxejYs9GntLzvWHKlVHzJxT4ZI0ClTmQ7bvJQ+uaXW1umi7pM3UCh7+nmiC PtLQ== m5mr25178339qcg.28.1413925490826; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 14:04:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.5] (c-50-134-55-106.hsd1.va.comcast.net. [50.134.55.106]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e8sm11698673qai.33.2014.10.21.14.04.50 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 21 Oct 2014 14:04:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "J.C. Hassall" Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 17:04:49 -0400 References: <20141021163229.ZO649.77902.root@dnvrco-web12> To: "" Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Fwd: My Status Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone have a good picture of Bill? Pls contact me off list. Tnx Jim Fat-thumbed from my iPhone > On Oct 21, 2014, at 12:32 PM, wrote: > > Bill is a great guy. He came to the September CVAR event at TWS and we had a nice chat, did some catching up but this turn of events worries me. Bill lost his wife after she spent some time in hospice and he told me about the agony of it all. I suspect that he will have trouble staying positive about his stay. Other than email, is there anyone on this list that will be seeing Bill personally? He has a great friend in Walt (I wish I could remember his last name) and Bill told me how much time Walt devoted to helping Bill in that troubling time. I wish I could get up there but maybe all we can do is try to stay in touch........ > > > Bob Kramer > rkramer3@austin.rr.com > > ---- Mark J Bradakis wrote: >> Looks like more non-delivery problems. Sigh. >> >> mjb. >> >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: [Fot] Fwd: My Status >> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:14:29 -0500 >> From: Joe Alexander >> To: fot@autox.team.net >> >> FOT, >> >> See below. >> >> Bill Rinke is the guy that made our Kastner Cup so special at Topeka. >> >> He was also with us at Texas. >> >> Joe A >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: "Bill Rinke" >>> >>> Subject: My Status >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> During a meeting with my surgeon this morning I learned that my cancer is a >> blockage in the duct from the liver to the gall bladder. A procedure was done >> last Friday but was not successful in opening it. The only alternative to >> open the blockage is not feasible or practical. I will begin Hospice shortly. >>> >>> Bill >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhassall@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 21 16:11:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 470AD2584A52 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 16:11:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from xavier.telenet-ops.be (xavier.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA45F2584BEB for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 15:48:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([IPv6:2a02:1812:a8f:c00:4c09:9a03:a730:e9e4]) by xavier.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id 5xrY1p00H5R2gYW01xrfQx; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 23:51:39 +0200 From: "Van Mulders Marcel" To: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 23:50:50 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac/teRRajFCkfvOOSTiX/GjxlK/s/Q== Subject: [Fot] Welding of a gearbox casing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In 2 years, I had 4 broken gearbox casing : maybe one of these can be repaired : it has a crack where the bottom of the gear casing and the rear wall are mating. Considering the weight of the engine and gearbox, the stresses at that point must be very high : the 4 cylinder TR's have 2 mountings at the front of the engine and 1 mounting at the gearbox extension. A gearbox with overdrive has this rear mounting at the very end of this extension : the shearing force between casing and extension must be very high, one should think that the rear wall of the casing should be pulled out all the time in racing. Has someone tried welding a gearbox casing? Marcel _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 21 16:42:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF632584C4A for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 16:42:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AFB825802EB for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 16:17:49 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: dnvrco-oedge01 smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.70.248] ([107.14.70.248:34288] helo=dnvrco-web12) by dnvrco-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id CE/C6-05850-25CD6445; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 22:21:06 +0000 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 22:21:06 +0000 From: To: fot@autox.team.net, Van Mulders Marcel Sensitivity: Normal Oct 2014 22:21:06 +0000 a=wAyFwspFC75BjEd6OtOw1g==:117 a=wAyFwspFC75BjEd6OtOw1g==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=657UCeArC_JfzhFgLnEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 Subject: Re: [Fot] Welding of a gearbox casing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have only seen one broken and it was an early TR3 case. In the hot rodding circles they use a plate at the back of the engine that extends all the way to the frame and provide a mid mount. On the TR6 and GT6 I could see making a new engine plate to provide this mid mount but on the wet liner engines there is no plate. I suppose one could engineer a thicker flywheel to take up the 1/4" plate thickness and do it. Bob Kramer rkramer3@austin.rr.com ---- Van Mulders Marcel wrote: > In 2 years, I had 4 broken gearbox casing : maybe one of these can be > repaired : it has a crack where the bottom of the gear casing and the rear > wall are mating. Considering the weight of the engine and gearbox, the > stresses at that point must be very high : the 4 cylinder TR's have 2 > mountings at the front of the engine and 1 mounting at the gearbox > extension. A gearbox with overdrive has this rear mounting at the very end > of this extension : the shearing force between casing and extension must be > very high, one should think that the rear wall of the casing should be > pulled out all the time in racing. Has someone tried welding a gearbox > casing? > Marcel > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 21 18:28:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E6C2584C6F for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 18:28:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f171.google.com (mail-ig0-f171.google.com [209.85.213.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303F3258065E for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 18:05:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f171.google.com with SMTP id h15so2440060igd.4 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 17:08:37 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=5lzCjuyqMcLUZcfLOyUg5iz3hacQ7cjETFHZQmK+Um0=; b=MNrmphbGPAdduqnMPxtw6fppxZ38CP2qv6xofGKpOTKjrZmPXS8qDqZ8yBMbdErGTL CeJJCRHLMScSXucuT3pp1W8n9n01U7CJHQNvrSiXDQTxDHQR3itZIJFPtQwJ9rfPKKDp kgJwlVNc9lw1Mu3w6zhxNuDUJ8riaDy8Cnu8OYPyRBRbRoAk+Y3G+dSSYBgedSo391GL QzIvAJalAc9zNLplvAJy05rLe4H5QhdIW7ViQEjVdFIkhDkO5I9Pu99GUV4eHp7N8cwm y6+kcHKWC7UlHPuKc6NlXETj++vgXny0YJ68+kcsLgF+Z0j0jAq9toP//aY6xLJEjyt2 OyiA== g13mr1580748igq.29.1413936517605; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 17:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.60.144 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 17:08:37 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 20:08:37 -0400 From: John Styduhar To: Van Mulders Marcel Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Welding of a gearbox casing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes the case can be TIG welded but there may be shrinkage in the front or rear bearing ports if the weld is near these openings. I have an early TR2 trans and A-type OD and found a hairline crack nearly the entire circumferance between the bellhousing and gear case . I had an experienced welder weld the entire crack and weld aluminun reinforcing pieces from the casting boss on each side of the case to the bellhousing. Later transmissions do not have these bosses. The front bearing was very difficult to remove when I got the tranny back but I was able to drive it out from inside the case. On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Van Mulders Marcel < van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be> wrote: > In 2 years, I had 4 broken gearbox casing : maybe one of these can be > repaired : it has a crack where the bottom of the gear casing and the rear > wall are mating. Considering the weight of the engine and gearbox, the > stresses at that point must be very high : the 4 cylinder TR's have 2 > mountings at the front of the engine and 1 mounting at the gearbox > extension. A gearbox with overdrive has this rear mounting at the very end > of this extension : the shearing force between casing and extension must be > very high, one should think that the rear wall of the casing should be > pulled out all the time in racing. Has someone tried welding a gearbox > casing? > Marcel > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 21 18:28:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4658F2584C6C for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 18:28:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from spamkiller.fastbytes.com (spamkiller.fastbytes.com [192.200.141.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A0F7258065E for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 18:12:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mercury.fastbytes.com [192.200.141.198] by spamkiller.fastbytes.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.00) id A71C260B62; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 19:15:24 -0500 Received: from TimDellVostro [192.200.136.236] by mercury.fastbytes.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-8.22) id A744086C; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 19:16:04 -0500 From: "Tim Murphy" To: "'Van Mulders Marcel'" , References: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 19:16:47 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac/teRRajFCkfvOOSTiX/GjxlK/s/QAFFqTg Content-Language: en-us Organization: FastBytesWireless Inc. Subject: Re: [Fot] Welding of a gearbox casing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, I had our TR3 gearbox TIG welded by the welder at work and never had any more problems with it for the next 5 years. The transmission has the overdrive unit. Our newer gearbox uses the much stronger TR6 case. Tim -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Van Mulders Marcel Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:51 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Welding of a gearbox casing In 2 years, I had 4 broken gearbox casing : maybe one of these can be repaired : it has a crack where the bottom of the gear casing and the rear wall are mating. Considering the weight of the engine and gearbox, the stresses at that point must be very high : the 4 cylinder TR's have 2 mountings at the front of the engine and 1 mounting at the gearbox extension. A gearbox with overdrive has this rear mounting at the very end of this extension : the shearing force between casing and extension must be very high, one should think that the rear wall of the casing should be pulled out all the time in racing. Has someone tried welding a gearbox casing? Marcel _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/timmurph@fastbytes.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 21 18:44:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6CC5258497F for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 18:44:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f173.google.com (mail-ie0-f173.google.com [209.85.223.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79BFD258080B for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 18:19:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id tr6so407738ieb.18 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 17:22:21 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=fxy152UNg2QaZv7ItqzExhon4shWRu0dbwofmbm2PP0=; b=Jphhg3ckP0tt1T/q3lXNvH7QsV79PlGRsK6D2zBM6pPV4vhWVrYQUZtAWKcfrcAS2t iztxMqTurZwn7bdX+X2G0maDenlw2mMOgSRtsVfPi6p+ZLkHHDcg004warC/S0NDB+IJ IoqfhVFqy+OQeg85H386hkrc9KKjBbyXXbkfRAjW13j2lAAjLXU5MID7f7FwUHDI+NFw 4NDwHnF1/0KZa8ZtJ4mEMFt0Ajxo9cV6D2fhc6t4j9b7VNijXBGDIpuMRlXCejC8+mCr GqHTNEHhwiWX9CNBWTBZO3LCPR6bNWyCwGCE0SXF6sIJ9o+fxb1ZjkV0UhH/6dvyfIGi 0QlQ== np3mr30682083igb.28.1413937340859; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 17:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.60.144 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 17:22:20 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 20:22:20 -0400 From: John Styduhar To: Joe Alexander Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Niehaus Restoration Products. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Joe, is there any chance he could make the wide TR3 front and rear fenders that were used on the Beta? On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Over the years, Uncle Jack and I had Keith Niehaus do an enormous amount of > work for us. Not always cheap and not always on time, but always first > class. > > He used this experience to develop replacement panels and ARE helped him > turn it into a business. The latest piece is the leading edge of the rear > fender of the TR4/6. Because of some compound shapes, it is among the most > difficult to craft, but it is to his standards. > > Using my TR3, he has started to develop some of those panels. 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fot@autox.team.net Received: from bcs.bcshost.com (bcs.bcshost.com [192.254.176.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5634E258080B for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 18:27:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail-oi0-f44.google.com ([209.85.218.44]:59655) by bcs.bcshost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XgjpX-00075o-Mc for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 19:31:12 -0500 Received: by mail-oi0-f44.google.com with SMTP id x69so1913375oia.17 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 17:31:10 -0700 (PDT) tc19mr80117oeb.49.1413937870173; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 17:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.240.107 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 17:31:10 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 19:31:10 -0500 From: Joe Alexander To: John Styduhar with any abuse report joe@the-vintage-racer.com Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Niehaus Restoration Products. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Interesting thought. He no doubt could. But with all of his current business interests, it would be a very long time before you got them. On Tuesday, October 21, 2014, John Styduhar wrote: > Joe, is there any chance he could make the wide TR3 front and rear fenders > that were used on the Beta? > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Joe Alexander > wrote: > >> Over the years, Uncle Jack and I had Keith Niehaus do an enormous amount >> of >> work for us. Not always cheap and not always on time, but always first >> class. >> >> He used this experience to develop replacement panels and ARE helped him >> turn it into a business. The latest piece is the leading edge of the rear >> fender of the TR4/6. Because of some compound shapes, it is among the most >> difficult to craft, but it is to his standards. >> >> Using my TR3, he has started to develop some of those panels. Anyway, if >> you want to salvage some body parts for your racer, you might check into >> his website, Moss, VB, TRF, and soon to be at BPNW. >> >> Joe A. >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: *Joe Alexander* > > >> Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 >> Subject: Fwd: Prices are falling along with the leaves. >> To: joe@the-vintage-racer.com >> >> >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> 645 1st Street >> Jesup, IA 50648 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> *From:* "Moss Motors" > >> > ');>> >> *Date:* October 21, 2014 at 8:53:06 AM CDT >> *To:* N197TR4@CS.COM >> > ');> >> *Subject:* *Prices are falling along with the leaves.* >> *Reply-To:* "Moss Motors" < >> eeje4jkn7g2uje6dao6il3u4ucfi6lxn@email.mossmotors.com >> >> >> > rs.com');> >> > >> >> >> >> Satisfy your British cravings: Read MossMotoring.com >> < >> http://email.mossmotors.com/public/?q=ulink&fn=Link&ssid=28427&id=eeje4jkn7g >> >> 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http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 21 19:13:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38A72584C68 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 19:13:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C75B258055A for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 18:55:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938ED2C02E0 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 18:58:49 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 18:58:49 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: fot@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Fot] Welding of a gearbox casing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've only seen gearboxes where the bellhousing flange has been welded. I imagine the actual case itself could be repaired, but I'd worry about warpage and bearing alignment. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 21 22:57:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461A62584D18 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 22:57:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f170.google.com (mail-lb0-f170.google.com [209.85.217.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A202584CC9 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 22:40:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f170.google.com with SMTP id u10so2185489lbd.15 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 21:43:34 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=55bHCeRHEs8quXhbwENBDF+bxr+HSV8e32Xcm/dr6GM=; b=ovlNaCXF424Yj0EBpLBY228NijPlX/LsWnorK2TnWiKLyJzOU616qKLuUu7DlQ+05i Ud2T7kwxCG07UNGUweWmXvA3ny9quNDBH1FCUBlKN2LOEiLBucYSpvdKtckS/7tbzUAZ tAMRNyTjZfsUt5doUN9wzHzChmJRVAlo9kTr287reUhs6T6Jk0lPkgrwjYcYmFodHR0U v8Zjafer9qbC/GO/UGfeC4VoGGxhrsOyY0Ktdat8gwnpUAhGOyAuEQ9Lsvs8J8HwwyWp k+/3tWmaOXsSy1w8d2HLUYpggVFhp5H5fOdLc+WTfjCk9/CHXxOBIScu+KYd/HgyyPeN DUhg== lc5mr39309293lab.62.1413953014128; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 21:43:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.20.72 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 21:42:53 -0700 (PDT) References: From: Kas Kastner Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 21:42:53 -0700 To: Van Mulders Marcel Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Welding of a gearbox casing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The gearbox is probably unusable and welding will just make the chance of more expense very probable. I believe it is a matter of harmonics vibration. I found this to be true in the Early TR-4 cases where they cracked a the bellousing tot he gearbox . We had a terrible time with this. I did find one way to help the situation. I made two steel hangers out of 1/8" cold roll steel trap 1.5" wide and attached them on each side of the gearbox at the bell housing then up to each side of where the battery box is. I then mounted these straps hangers to small rubber mounts to help with the shock and to take soem of the weight.. This saved me many races until the factory finally understood my problem nd then added the big ribs down each side. I also added 1/2" thick aluminum ribs on the side of the gearbox. One case worked fine but another made it impossible to line up the shafts due to the case changing shape under heat. The hangers will work though. *Never be beaten by equipment.* On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Van Mulders Marcel < van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be> wrote: > In 2 years, I had 4 broken gearbox casing : maybe one of these can be > repaired : it has a crack where the bottom of the gear casing and the rear > wall are mating. Considering the weight of the engine and gearbox, the > stresses at that point must be very high : the 4 cylinder TR's have 2 > mountings at the front of the engine and 1 mounting at the gearbox > extension. A gearbox with overdrive has this rear mounting at the very end > of this extension : the shearing force between casing and extension must be > very high, one should think that the rear wall of the casing should be > pulled out all the time in racing. Has someone tried welding a gearbox > casing? > Marcel > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 22 01:44:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE49258080B for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 01:44:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.o2.co.uk (jabba.london.02.net [82.132.130.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AFA125803FC for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 01:26:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.6.163.158] (82.132.224.154) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.5.140.03) id 54451782009A9127; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 08:29:56 +0100 References: From: TR4 Tony Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 08:29:53 +0100 To: Kas Kastner Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Welding of a gearbox casing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Just to add to this I know that some of the guys here use the later TR6 bellhousing with the additional ribs vertically and horizontally, but in addition (especially when using a dog gear set which exerts vertical pressure which stretches the casing) they use straps to clamp the gearbox together over the remote housing. I've avoided this by careful selection of casings and a few bits of steel bracketry at critical points and stiffer engine and gearbox mounts, all of which do a little but often as I can't use a dog set due to regs. A lot of other things have been tried, such as TIG welding, epoxy bonding etc but the strap arrangement seems to be the better option at the moment. As Kas says a little flex in the downstream mounting is essential. Fundamentally the main gearbox casings are not strong laterally or vertically so anything you can do to stop them stretching will give benefit. The late CC TR6 casings seem to be the best, maybe also the Dolomite Sprint then followed by the LD and KD series stag. The old alloy is now quite brittle so once a fault develops it quickly turns into a major oil loss which means rapid gearbox failure due to heat. Also beware tapping the casing in a weak spot for an oil cooler take off. Enough said. Regards Tony Sent from my iPhone > On 22 Oct 2014, at 05:42, Kas Kastner wrote: > > The gearbox is probably unusable and welding will just make the chance of > more expense very probable. I believe it is a matter of harmonics > vibration. I found this to be true in the Early TR-4 cases where they > cracked a the bellousing tot he gearbox . We had a terrible time with > this. I did find one way to help the situation. I made two steel hangers > out of 1/8" cold roll steel trap 1.5" wide and attached them on each side > of the gearbox at the bell housing then up to each side of where the > battery box is. I then mounted these straps hangers to small rubber mounts > to help with the shock and to take soem of the weight.. This saved me many > races until the factory finally understood my problem nd then added the big > ribs down each side. I also added 1/2" thick aluminum ribs on the side of > the gearbox. One case worked fine but another made it impossible to line > up the shafts due to the case changing shape under heat. The hangers will > work though. > > *Never be beaten by equipment.* > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Van Mulders Marcel < > van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be> wrote: > >> In 2 years, I had 4 broken gearbox casing : maybe one of these can be >> repaired : it has a crack where the bottom of the gear casing and the rear >> wall are mating. Considering the weight of the engine and gearbox, the >> stresses at that point must be very high : the 4 cylinder TR's have 2 >> mountings at the front of the engine and 1 mounting at the gearbox >> extension. A gearbox with overdrive has this rear mounting at the very end >> of this extension : the shearing force between casing and extension must be >> very high, one should think that the rear wall of the casing should be >> pulled out all the time in racing. Has someone tried welding a gearbox >> casing? >> Marcel >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 22 06:46:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF822584D64 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 06:46:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f170.google.com (mail-wi0-f170.google.com [209.85.212.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D97832584941 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 06:17:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f170.google.com with SMTP id n3so643107wiv.3 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 05:20:32 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ES2CVKwP+PJDVf5g3uhdpN8ku+BvPo6u8wOU0r7fMes=; b=AUlC0CySMT0cShzuoNKEXP57LJ0ZCsk1m0wpYI73UDbs+FSeAWwmxmAotvYOWKQVkr xplvwOOMX+D5roCrLEimAGB8j48syVZt1i2aN9SpPk3I8pvAzYH+2SnYA+tngqRhuWjS YJ1xWnLPIUSFw5Fr48Ja/R2KjlUegI0gnRQ0nw2VxC3XePK552HEU9ZQ5vEiTvwNgLp2 Ogzbz0uz1o0xj/e73lcfILGnM8AlsdP1FrZkOASGCyuaPT3DccB7mzrv7+2vUqTLuwBa z9OHap7YPOb52pIqyGYt1Vq2M2hSexj4M88paByLS22oVFrUon9G1rUl54z90amU7RdP MXIg== az8mr51931850wjb.65.1413980432415; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 05:20:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.245.193 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 05:20:32 -0700 (PDT) References: <382A0BB0-8D4A-40E3-876E-5AAA9C9DE909@virgin.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 08:20:32 -0400 From: Robert Deanes To: TR4 Tony Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Welding of a gearbox casing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have cut the bolting flange off my bell housing by the flywheel and have had that welded back on with no problems, that was five years ago, had a marine tower builder here in town do it, stronger than ever. He was worried about the magnesium in the metal as we might have an expensive fire but all was great. On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:29 AM, TR4 Tony wrote: > Just to add to this I know that some of the guys here use the later TR6 > bellhousing with the additional ribs vertically and horizontally, but in > addition (especially when using a dog gear set which exerts vertical > pressure > which stretches the casing) they use straps to clamp the gearbox together > over > the remote housing. I've avoided this by careful selection of casings and a > few bits of steel bracketry at critical points and stiffer engine and > gearbox > mounts, all of which do a little but often as I can't use a dog set due to > regs. > > A lot of other things have been tried, such as TIG welding, epoxy bonding > etc > but the strap arrangement seems to be the better option at the moment. As > Kas > says a little flex in the downstream mounting is essential. > > Fundamentally the main gearbox casings are not strong laterally or > vertically > so anything you can do to stop them stretching will give benefit. The late > CC > TR6 casings seem to be the best, maybe also the Dolomite Sprint then > followed > by the LD and KD series stag. The old alloy is now quite brittle so once a > fault develops it quickly turns into a major oil loss which means rapid > gearbox failure due to heat. > > Also beware tapping the casing in a weak spot for an oil cooler take off. > Enough said. > > Regards > > Tony > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 22 Oct 2014, at 05:42, Kas Kastner wrote: > > > > The gearbox is probably unusable and welding will just make the chance of > > more expense very probable. I believe it is a matter of harmonics > > vibration. I found this to be true in the Early TR-4 cases where they > > cracked a the bellousing tot he gearbox . We had a terrible time with > > this. I did find one way to help the situation. I made two steel > hangers > > out of 1/8" cold roll steel trap 1.5" wide and attached them on each side > > of the gearbox at the bell housing then up to each side of where the > > battery box is. I then mounted these straps hangers to small rubber > mounts > > to help with the shock and to take soem of the weight.. This saved me > many > > races until the factory finally understood my problem nd then added the > big > > ribs down each side. I also added 1/2" thick aluminum ribs on the side > of > > the gearbox. One case worked fine but another made it impossible to line > > up the shafts due to the case changing shape under heat. The hangers will > > work though. > > > > *Never be beaten by equipment.* > > > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Van Mulders Marcel < > > van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be> wrote: > > > >> In 2 years, I had 4 broken gearbox casing : maybe one of these can be > >> repaired : it has a crack where the bottom of the gear casing and the > rear > >> wall are mating. Considering the weight of the engine and gearbox, the > >> stresses at that point must be very high : the 4 cylinder TR's have 2 > >> mountings at the front of the engine and 1 mounting at the gearbox > >> extension. A gearbox with overdrive has this rear mounting at the very > end > >> of this extension : the shearing force between casing and extension must > be > >> very high, one should think that the rear wall of the casing should be > >> pulled out all the time in racing. Has someone tried welding a gearbox > >> casing? > >> Marcel > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > -- rob deanes TR Racer _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 22 13:31:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B09225808C1 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 13:31:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from michel.telenet-ops.be (michel.telenet-ops.be [195.130.137.88]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F078725805E8 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 13:11:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([IPv6:2a02:1812:a8f:c00:4c09:9a03:a730:e9e4]) by michel.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id 6KF61p00E5R2gYW06KFAjC; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 21:15:10 +0200 From: "Marcel Van Mulders" To: "'TR4 Tony'" References: <382A0BB0-8D4A-40E3-876E-5AAA9C9DE909@virgin.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 21:14:24 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac/tyfrcg2ZjUj2ET9uSAiT0fZ6p3AAYkWiw Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Welding of a gearbox casing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for the splendid comments. So, welding is very well possible, but the risk of warping is too great. I always considered the mating face between the main casing and the rear extension as the weakest point, because of the great shearing forces exerted on the lower of the 6 small screws, when hitting something like a high curbstone. Especially whit an overdrive box, the distance from this mating face to the front(engine) and rear mountings is long. A friend, Ivan Matthys, has of pile of TR and saloon boxes : I will beg him for another casing. Ivan was with me at the Nurburgring race week-end 3 weeks ago : it was the 1st outing of my new car, the TR4A that I bought from Bob Kramer. My TR3 racer was wrecked in may 2014 at Zandvoort, hitting a concrete wall in the flying start. The TR3 overdrive dogbox was in the TR4A for the Nurburgring event. After a few practise laps, the box started vibrating and seconds later the noise was alarming. It turned out that the layshaft was bent to 1350 at the front, the rear needle bearing was not affected. The input shaft and the 3rd gear are loading the front of the layshaft, so I suppose that the Zandvoort crash was the onset of the gearbox failing, it was in 3rd gear and since Zandvoort the gearbox had not been used, exept for a short ride on a public road. I had a spare gear set with me for the overdrive dogbox and with the help of Ivan, we emptied a good close ratio gear box of a Jo Willems racer and built the box with my spare gearset, a lot of work, only to have overdrive (and dog engaging) in the Saturday race. Some complications happened when we got tired : the Jo Willems gearbox was a Stag box with needle thrust bearings and to get at soms small parts in the damaged box, we had to cut the casing to pieces, because it was impossible to drive out the bent layshaft. The Saturday race was disappointing : I started at the rear and I could overtake only a couple of cars and towards the end, my car got even slower, so I moved to the pits. Lots of aluminium dust in the distributor cap pointed to a ruined distributor bearing, causing erratic ignition. After replacing the distributor, a short test on an empty parking proved that the power was back to normal, so I was waiting with impatience for the 1 hour race on Sunday. But Sunday was very foggy, at noon it was not better and in the end, all the races were cancelled. Although I've not been able to test Bob Kramer's car to the full, I was not disappointed. I've learned a lot : it's a very good car, nice to look at and it will be fast in the next race season. The Nurburgring week-end did have another pleasing side effect : Ivan regained enthousiasm for racing : he raced a classic Mini and was building a TR6 racer, but the work has slowed down to a point that he thought about selling the car. I'm responsible for the engine and drive train and also the suspension and brakes. The engine block and cylinderhead are ready and almost all the parts for the drive train and suspension are there. The engine has 76mm bores, with epuispaced cylinders made of steel tubes and nikasil coated. I don't know anything about TR6 camshafts : any idea's someone? The engine has a billet steel crankshaft and will stand 7500rpm or more. If you see a white TR6 in front of the pack in some video's next year, it should be Ivan's car, not Stephan Shamshula's. Dreaming... Marcel -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: TR4 Tony [mailto:tr4.tony@virgin.net] Verzonden: woensdag 22 oktober 2014 9:30 Aan: Kas Kastner CC: Van Mulders Marcel; FOT Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Welding of a gearbox casing Just to add to this I know that some of the guys here use the later TR6 bellhousing with the additional ribs vertically and horizontally, but in addition (especially when using a dog gear set which exerts vertical pressure which stretches the casing) they use straps to clamp the gearbox together over the remote housing. I've avoided this by careful selection of casings and a few bits of steel bracketry at critical points and stiffer engine and gearbox mounts, all of which do a little but often as I can't use a dog set due to regs. A lot of other things have been tried, such as TIG welding, epoxy bonding etc but the strap arrangement seems to be the better option at the moment. As Kas says a little flex in the downstream mounting is essential. Fundamentally the main gearbox casings are not strong laterally or vertically so anything you can do to stop them stretching will give benefit. The late CC TR6 casings seem to be the best, maybe also the Dolomite Sprint then followed by the LD and KD series stag. The old alloy is now quite brittle so once a fault develops it quickly turns into a major oil loss which means rapid gearbox failure due to heat. Also beware tapping the casing in a weak spot for an oil cooler take off. Enough said. Regards Tony Sent from my iPhone > On 22 Oct 2014, at 05:42, Kas Kastner wrote: > > The gearbox is probably unusable and welding will just make the chance > of more expense very probable. I believe it is a matter of harmonics > vibration. I found this to be true in the Early TR-4 cases where they > cracked a the bellousing tot he gearbox . We had a terrible time with > this. I did find one way to help the situation. I made two steel > hangers out of 1/8" cold roll steel trap 1.5" wide and attached them > on each side of the gearbox at the bell housing then up to each side > of where the battery box is. I then mounted these straps hangers to > small rubber mounts to help with the shock and to take soem of the > weight.. This saved me many races until the factory finally > understood my problem nd then added the big ribs down each side. I > also added 1/2" thick aluminum ribs on the side of the gearbox. One > case worked fine but another made it impossible to line up the shafts > due to the case changing shape under heat. The hangers will work though. > > *Never be beaten by equipment.* > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Van Mulders Marcel < > van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be> wrote: > >> In 2 years, I had 4 broken gearbox casing : maybe one of these can be >> repaired : it has a crack where the bottom of the gear casing and the >> rear wall are mating. Considering the weight of the engine and >> gearbox, the stresses at that point must be very high : the 4 >> cylinder TR's have 2 mountings at the front of the engine and 1 >> mounting at the gearbox extension. A gearbox with overdrive has this >> rear mounting at the very end of this extension : the shearing force >> between casing and extension must be very high, one should think that >> the rear wall of the casing should be pulled out all the time in >> racing. Has someone tried welding a gearbox casing? >> Marcel >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 22 15:47:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC0D2580955 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 15:47:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B644258080B for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 15:21:00 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: dnvrco-oedge03 smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.70.248] ([107.14.70.248:8733] helo=dnvrco-web19) by dnvrco-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id F8/46-27958-18028445; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 21:24:17 +0000 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 21:24:17 +0000 From: To: Marcel Van Mulders , 'TR4 Tony' Sensitivity: Normal Oct 2014 21:24:17 +0000 a=wAyFwspFC75BjEd6OtOw1g==:117 a=wAyFwspFC75BjEd6OtOw1g==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=8RloEfZUAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=PONxapm6ivkZFM-YJ8wA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Welding of a gearbox casing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Marcel, I'm wishing you the best with the TR4A but the result of our exchange is that I am now the owner of a white TR6 racer. I have a lot to learn on the engine building and Weber carburetors but the car is the same underneath. This one came with a dog gearbox and I was interested to see the comment about the dog gears stretching the cases. Should be interesting. Bob Kramer rkramer3@austin.rr.com ---- Marcel Van Mulders wrote: > Thanks for the splendid comments. So, welding is very well possible, but the > risk of warping is too great. I always considered the mating face between > the main casing and the rear extension as the weakest point, because of the > great shearing forces exerted on the lower of the 6 small screws, when > hitting something like a high curbstone. Especially whit an overdrive box, > the distance from this mating face to the front(engine) and rear mountings > is long. A friend, Ivan Matthys, has of pile of TR and saloon boxes : I will > beg him for another casing. Ivan was with me at the Nurburgring race > week-end 3 weeks ago : it was the 1st outing of my new car, the TR4A that I > bought from Bob Kramer. My TR3 racer was wrecked in may 2014 at Zandvoort, > hitting a concrete wall in the flying start. The TR3 overdrive dogbox was in > the TR4A for the Nurburgring event. After a few practise laps, the box > started vibrating and seconds later the noise was alarming. It turned out > that the layshaft was bent to 1350 at the front, the rear needle bearing was > not affected. The input shaft and the 3rd gear are loading the front of the > layshaft, so I suppose that the Zandvoort crash was the onset of the gearbox > failing, it was in 3rd gear and since Zandvoort the gearbox had not been > used, exept for a short ride on a public road. > I had a spare gear set with me for the overdrive dogbox and with the help of > Ivan, we emptied a good close ratio gear box of a Jo Willems racer and built > the box with my spare gearset, a lot of work, only to have overdrive (and > dog engaging) in the Saturday race. Some complications happened when we got > tired : the Jo Willems gearbox was a Stag box with needle thrust bearings > and to get at soms small parts in the damaged box, we had to cut the casing > to pieces, because it was impossible to drive out the bent layshaft. The > Saturday race was disappointing : I started at the rear and I could overtake > only a couple of cars and towards the end, my car got even slower, so I > moved to the pits. Lots of aluminium dust in the distributor cap pointed to > a ruined distributor bearing, causing erratic ignition. After replacing the > distributor, a short test on an empty parking proved that the power was back > to normal, so I was waiting with impatience for the 1 hour race on Sunday. > But Sunday was very foggy, at noon it was not better and in the end, all the > races were cancelled. Although I've not been able to test Bob Kramer's car > to the full, I was not disappointed. I've learned a lot : it's a very good > car, nice to look at and it will be fast in the next race season. > The Nurburgring week-end did have another pleasing side effect : Ivan > regained enthousiasm for racing : he raced a classic Mini and was building a > TR6 racer, but the work has slowed down to a point that he thought about > selling the car. I'm responsible for the engine and drive train and also the > suspension and brakes. The engine block and cylinderhead are ready and > almost all the parts for the drive train and suspension are there. The > engine has 76mm bores, with epuispaced cylinders made of steel tubes and > nikasil coated. I don't know anything about TR6 camshafts : any idea's > someone? The engine has a billet steel crankshaft and will stand 7500rpm or > more. If you see a white TR6 in front of the pack in some video's next year, > it should be Ivan's car, not Stephan Shamshula's. Dreaming... > Marcel > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: TR4 Tony [mailto:tr4.tony@virgin.net] > Verzonden: woensdag 22 oktober 2014 9:30 > Aan: Kas Kastner > CC: Van Mulders Marcel; FOT > Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Welding of a gearbox casing > > Just to add to this I know that some of the guys here use the later TR6 > bellhousing with the additional ribs vertically and horizontally, but in > addition (especially when using a dog gear set which exerts vertical > pressure which stretches the casing) they use straps to clamp the gearbox > together over the remote housing. I've avoided this by careful selection of > casings and a few bits of steel bracketry at critical points and stiffer > engine and gearbox mounts, all of which do a little but often as I can't use > a dog set due to regs. > > A lot of other things have been tried, such as TIG welding, epoxy bonding > etc but the strap arrangement seems to be the better option at the moment. > As Kas says a little flex in the downstream mounting is essential. > > Fundamentally the main gearbox casings are not strong laterally or > vertically so anything you can do to stop them stretching will give benefit. > The late CC TR6 casings seem to be the best, maybe also the Dolomite Sprint > then followed by the LD and KD series stag. The old alloy is now quite > brittle so once a fault develops it quickly turns into a major oil loss > which means rapid gearbox failure due to heat. > > Also beware tapping the casing in a weak spot for an oil cooler take off. > Enough said. > > Regards > > Tony > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 22 Oct 2014, at 05:42, Kas Kastner wrote: > > > > The gearbox is probably unusable and welding will just make the chance > > of more expense very probable. I believe it is a matter of harmonics > > vibration. I found this to be true in the Early TR-4 cases where they > > cracked a the bellousing tot he gearbox . We had a terrible time with > > this. I did find one way to help the situation. I made two steel > > hangers out of 1/8" cold roll steel trap 1.5" wide and attached them > > on each side of the gearbox at the bell housing then up to each side > > of where the battery box is. I then mounted these straps hangers to > > small rubber mounts to help with the shock and to take soem of the > > weight.. This saved me many races until the factory finally > > understood my problem nd then added the big ribs down each side. I > > also added 1/2" thick aluminum ribs on the side of the gearbox. One > > case worked fine but another made it impossible to line up the shafts > > due to the case changing shape under heat. The hangers will work though. > > > > *Never be beaten by equipment.* > > > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Van Mulders Marcel < > > van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be> wrote: > > > >> In 2 years, I had 4 broken gearbox casing : maybe one of these can be > >> repaired : it has a crack where the bottom of the gear casing and the > >> rear wall are mating. Considering the weight of the engine and > >> gearbox, the stresses at that point must be very high : the 4 > >> cylinder TR's have 2 mountings at the front of the engine and 1 > >> mounting at the gearbox extension. A gearbox with overdrive has this > >> rear mounting at the very end of this extension : the shearing force > >> between casing and extension must be very high, one should think that > >> the rear wall of the casing should be pulled out all the time in > >> racing. Has someone tried welding a gearbox casing? > >> Marcel > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 22 21:33:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDE12584567 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 21:33:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f181.google.com (mail-ob0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F33C25806FA for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 21:10:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f181.google.com with SMTP id wm4so125824obc.12 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 20:14:04 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date:content-type :mime-version; bh=dSj7ce2sWLXU0hr9QGOq1pJ8wPegSLSUUXcBTTv4KGo=; b=ZjTwwi66jTJlH8mFYlkgZP5MhlHfgRx15QOAwUo3GrFHff3BAbKUFLLcpOxKhEC2xe gdAPstyUWiUtZstQyYnwEp/d2QId1EDJXGvykXDjo47d3HhRWUvp+AUHuDsseSUrRdgG VXCavpNnNpCjwZ/fnjKYd8PbrbFznpxTIhpZhxNHeUaiD4G8EyaRzJo2b5ln6HZRflEj ipzqtFUHZ1rICFM4DlXsUt89ARw0B4lnF+54NW53RjgEN6+vBqBXeEOb33vpcg4u2XOV BkQyiveDK/B9BiymdqRU+HqCGuWjJzQ/yNCfsPQEmc3drawuzdqUKdjwhhr/HJEth+mZ zgiA== bh7mr1821493oec.32.1414034043945; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 20:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.190 (bda-74-82-80-161.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.161]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id y8sm301900oie.23.2014.10.22.20.14.03 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 22 Oct 2014 20:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Sensitivity: Normal To: "Fot" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 03:14:02 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Working insane amounts of time to run a particular stint (of much less time) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Perhaps I've used this anology before... But Imageine "getting your golf clubs ready" for an hour or two round of Golf. There is Not exactly a correlation in Hell that could get someone to understand what it takes to run well and win in amature racing. The time, and what it takes to never be beaten by equipment let alone win. Crap! I've rebuilt half the car since my last outing and now i'm faced with a leakin hole where the threads (used to be) in the front sealing block at the lower (just kind of hanging there) bolt that holds on the lowest part of the front timing cover. Seriously? The bolt just spins on a never ending cycle to no grab, and is leaking. I've got not enough time to fix it proper before thIs weekend so I overly coated the bolt with locktite (which will likely do nothing as there is nothing to lock tight). And broke out the red RTV (does that count for points for or against an effort to not be beaten by equipment?) And Coated the hell out of it; 1/4" deep... As a bad latex diaper. Any way, I've also got this strange interuptive miss or short that is really pissing me off. Perhaps its a short or ground fault in the region of the starter button (which seems to work when in wants or perhaps not), or a bad contact on the kill switch? Then again it could be points, coil, cap, rotor, condenser,etc. So, In panic we ordered 2 of every Mallory item that fits our gt6 (and other 4.2 Liter Jaguars) Sure hope that one of those parts and my surgeon like use of an emrey board onto every point of grouned electrical electrical contact works. Because I am running out of days to complete the race prep for this all impotantant 80 minute race at Blackhawk Farms this weekend. This is a big race for us midwesterners The Loooong Race ( a Midwestern Council Classic) These FoT madmen will be driving The vintage group which has 41 cars set to race... One class for all the marbles! Tony drews TR4 Sean alexander TR4 Scott barr Spitfire Brian Garcia (plymoth baracuda) Jason Ostrowski GT6 Glade Snodgrass Spitfire (fp) Who will it be that takes this victory? Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 05:04:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80170258083B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 05:04:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D48125807F2 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 04:45:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::c167:89f3:ca7b:1966]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::c167:89f3:ca7b:1966%13]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 05:48:51 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: "jason@multivintage.com" Thread-Topic: [Fot] Working insane amounts of time to run a particular stint (of much less time) Thread-Index: AQHP7nKZRey0MH/9OUy3Al/9TS2ZDJw9gPZ4 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 10:48:49 +0000 References: <20141023033334.3DFAC2584509@autox.team.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US Cc: Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Working insane amounts of time to run a particular stint (of much less time) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net As to the "who will win?" question, Jason, The Loooong Race history tells us it will be Last Man Standing (or Last Chick if Susan were joining us). I won the H Prod group a few years ago with a case full of shrapnel for a gearbox and only 4th gear available because I was the last H Prod car running. Scott Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 jason@multivintage.com wrote: Perhaps I've used this anology before... But Imageine "getting your golf clubs ready" for an hour or two round of Golf. There is Not exactly a correlation in Hell that could get someone to understand what it takes to run well and win in amature racing. The time, and what it takes to never be beaten by equipment let alone win. Crap! I've rebuilt half the car since my last outing and now i'm faced with a leakin hole where the threads (used to be) in the front sealing block at the lower (just kind of hanging there) bolt that holds on the lowest part of the front timing cover. Seriously? The bolt just spins on a never ending cycle to no grab, and is leaking. I've got not enough time to fix it proper before thIs weekend so I overly coated the bolt with locktite (which will likely do nothing as there is nothing to lock tight). And broke out the red RTV (does that count for points for or against an effort to not be beaten by equipment?) And Coated the hell out of it; 1/4" deep... As a bad latex diaper. Any way, I've also got this strange interuptive miss or short that is really pissing me off. Perhaps its a short or ground fault in the region of the starter button (which seems to work when in wants or perhaps not), or a bad contact on the kill switch? Then again it could be points, coil, cap, rotor, condenser,etc. So, In panic we ordered 2 of every Mallory item that fits our gt6 (and other 4.2 Liter Jaguars) Sure hope that one of those parts and my surgeon like use of an emrey board onto every point of grouned electrical electrical contact works. Because I am running out of days to complete the race prep for this all impotantant 80 minute race at Blackhawk Farms this weekend. This is a big race for us midwesterners The Loooong Race ( a Midwestern Council Classic) These FoT madmen will be driving The vintage group which has 41 cars set to race... One class for all the marbles! Tony drews TR4 Sean alexander TR4 Scott barr Spitfire Brian Garcia (plymoth baracuda) Jason Ostrowski GT6 Glade Snodgrass Spitfire (fp) Who will it be that takes this victory? Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 09:25:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D9B2584DAA for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 09:25:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com (omr-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60EA62580697 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 09:01:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aaf01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aaf01.mx.aol.com [172.26.127.99]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 769C17000009F; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 11:04:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mla06h.mail.aol.com (core-mla06.mail.aol.com [172.27.37.6]) by mtaomg-aaf01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1E46438000088; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 11:04:53 -0400 (EDT) References: <20141023033334.3DFAC2584509@autox.team.net> To: sbarr@McCarty-Law.com, jason@multivintage.com Received: from 70.194.131.225 by webmail-va123.sysops.aol.com (149.174.106.85) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 23 Oct 2014 11:04:52 -0400 From: billdentin@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 11:04:52 -0400 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1414076694; bh=k3Pe6k73FMEPWuJBdxEXHXr0NEXvvw+3+V91NrLpWaw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=n3sKis9c0a0FMs71aMcVPyLFXEkP3pBaPq00MWe2PEYsJTkHtyyUZeQMzpFm6K+3R NndVeMLxLDH6VCLUA3di5M9XVMnixTOX23w/69y98JrkKcFPIlVv/dGMl7rCxFO4KM /3aTSHX7YpDn74BfowKA6x/OkzK/hCXYELHwh1FE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a7f635449191521d3 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Working insane amounts of time to run a particular stint (of much less time) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici... 41 cars is a lot of race cars in one group on a two mile circuit like Blackhawk Farms Raceway. And, of course, running all (V/H) cars in one race group, as Midwestern Council does, adds further complications. It becomes a very eclectic group of racers and race cars. There are extra ordinary swings in both horsepower and talent. But Council always seems to pull if off safely. To do so again this week end will require the drivers to embrace a 'vintage spirit'. I'll be there cheering everyone on. Bill Dentinger -----Original Message----- From: Barr, Scott To: jason Cc: Fot Sent: Thu, Oct 23, 2014 6:08 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Working insane amounts of time to run a particular stint (of much less time) As to the "who will win?" question, Jason, The Loooong Race history tells us t will be Last Man Standing (or Last Chick if Susan were joining us). I won he H Prod group a few years ago with a case full of shrapnel for a gearbox nd only 4th gear available because I was the last H Prod car running. Scott Scott Barr cCarty Law LLP 920) 257-2233 ason@multivintage.com wrote: Perhaps I've used this anology before... But Imageine "getting your golf clubs eady" for an hour or two round of Golf. here is Not exactly a correlation in Hell that could get someone to nderstand what it takes to run well and win in amature racing. The time, and hat it takes to never be beaten by equipment let alone win. rap! I've rebuilt half the car since my last outing and now i'm faced with a eakin hole where the threads (used to be) in the front sealing block at the ower (just kind of hanging there) bolt that holds on the lowest part of the ront timing cover. eriously? he bolt just spins on a never ending cycle to no grab, and is leaking. 've got not enough time to fix it proper before thIs weekend so I overly oated the bolt with locktite (which will likely do nothing as there is othing to lock tight). And broke out the red RTV (does that count for points or or against an effort to not be beaten by equipment?) nd Coated the hell out of it; 1/4" deep... s a bad latex diaper. ny way, I've also got this strange interuptive miss or short that is really issing me off. Perhaps its a short or ground fault in the region of the tarter button (which seems to work when in wants or perhaps not), or a bad ontact on the kill switch? Then again it could be points, coil, cap, rotor, ondenser,etc. o, In panic we ordered 2 of every Mallory item that fits our gt6 (and other .2 Liter Jaguars) ure hope that one of those parts and my surgeon like use of an emrey board nto every point of grouned electrical electrical contact works. ecause I am running out of days to complete the race prep for this all mpotantant 80 minute race at Blackhawk Farms this weekend. This is a big race for us midwesterners he Loooong Race ( a Midwestern Council Classic) hese FoT madmen will be driving he vintage group which has 41 cars set to race... One class for all the arbles! ony drews TR4 ean alexander TR4 cott barr Spitfire rian Garcia (plymoth baracuda) ason Ostrowski GT6 lade Snodgrass Spitfire (fp) Who will it be that takes this victory? Jason Ostrowski riendly Ghost Racing ent via BlackBerry by AT&T ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com ______________________________________________ ot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com rchive: orums: http://www.team.net/forums nsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 10:54:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0871E2584F76 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 10:54:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from albert.telenet-ops.be (albert.telenet-ops.be [195.130.137.90]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6F222580414 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 10:35:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([IPv6:2a02:1812:a8f:c00:489b:68e3:2855:d999]) by albert.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id 6geG1p00B2mkAsW06geMVC; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 18:38:21 +0200 From: "Marcel Van Mulders" To: References: <57C774FDFB3744B8B42CC1D2442981A0@GebruikerPC> <20141022212417.1YS1G.100813.root@dnvrco-web19> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 18:37:33 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac/uPooj9124wb9uQxialzn9LLzdnwAoL5dA Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Welding of a gearbox casing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bob, Almost enough for a "white TR6 only" race! Marcel. -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: rkramer3@austin.rr.com [mailto:rkramer3@austin.rr.com] Verzonden: woensdag 22 oktober 2014 23:24 Aan: Marcel Van Mulders; 'TR4 Tony' CC: fot@autox.team.net Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Welding of a gearbox casing Marcel, I'm wishing you the best with the TR4A but the result of our exchange is that I am now the owner of a white TR6 racer. I have a lot to learn on the engine building and Weber carburetors but the car is the same underneath. This one came with a dog gearbox and I was interested to see the comment about the dog gears stretching the cases. Should be interesting. Bob Kramer rkramer3@austin.rr.com ---- Marcel Van Mulders wrote: > Thanks for the splendid comments. So, welding is very well possible, > but the risk of warping is too great. I always considered the mating > face between the main casing and the rear extension as the weakest > point, because of the great shearing forces exerted on the lower of > the 6 small screws, when hitting something like a high curbstone. > Especially whit an overdrive box, the distance from this mating face > to the front(engine) and rear mountings is long. A friend, Ivan > Matthys, has of pile of TR and saloon boxes : I will beg him for > another casing. Ivan was with me at the Nurburgring race week-end 3 > weeks ago : it was the 1st outing of my new car, the TR4A that I > bought from Bob Kramer. My TR3 racer was wrecked in may 2014 at > Zandvoort, hitting a concrete wall in the flying start. The TR3 > overdrive dogbox was in the TR4A for the Nurburgring event. After a > few practise laps, the box started vibrating and seconds later the > noise was alarming. It turned out that the layshaft was bent to 1350 > at the front, the rear needle bearing was not affected. The input > shaft and the 3rd gear are loading the front of the layshaft, so I > suppose that the Zandvoort crash was the onset of the gearbox failing, it was in 3rd gear and since Zandvoort the gearbox had not been used, exept for a short ride on a public road. > I had a spare gear set with me for the overdrive dogbox and with the > help of Ivan, we emptied a good close ratio gear box of a Jo Willems > racer and built the box with my spare gearset, a lot of work, only to > have overdrive (and dog engaging) in the Saturday race. Some > complications happened when we got tired : the Jo Willems gearbox was > a Stag box with needle thrust bearings and to get at soms small parts > in the damaged box, we had to cut the casing to pieces, because it was > impossible to drive out the bent layshaft. The Saturday race was > disappointing : I started at the rear and I could overtake only a > couple of cars and towards the end, my car got even slower, so I moved > to the pits. Lots of aluminium dust in the distributor cap pointed to > a ruined distributor bearing, causing erratic ignition. After > replacing the distributor, a short test on an empty parking proved that the power was back to normal, so I was waiting with impatience for the 1 hour race on Sunday. > But Sunday was very foggy, at noon it was not better and in the end, > all the races were cancelled. Although I've not been able to test Bob > Kramer's car to the full, I was not disappointed. I've learned a lot : > it's a very good car, nice to look at and it will be fast in the next race season. > The Nurburgring week-end did have another pleasing side effect : Ivan > regained enthousiasm for racing : he raced a classic Mini and was > building a > TR6 racer, but the work has slowed down to a point that he thought > about selling the car. I'm responsible for the engine and drive train > and also the suspension and brakes. The engine block and cylinderhead > are ready and almost all the parts for the drive train and suspension > are there. The engine has 76mm bores, with epuispaced cylinders made > of steel tubes and nikasil coated. I don't know anything about TR6 > camshafts : any idea's someone? The engine has a billet steel > crankshaft and will stand 7500rpm or more. If you see a white TR6 in > front of the pack in some video's next year, it should be Ivan's car, not Stephan Shamshula's. Dreaming... > Marcel > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: TR4 Tony [mailto:tr4.tony@virgin.net] > Verzonden: woensdag 22 oktober 2014 9:30 > Aan: Kas Kastner > CC: Van Mulders Marcel; FOT > Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Welding of a gearbox casing > > Just to add to this I know that some of the guys here use the later > TR6 bellhousing with the additional ribs vertically and horizontally, > but in addition (especially when using a dog gear set which exerts > vertical pressure which stretches the casing) they use straps to clamp > the gearbox together over the remote housing. I've avoided this by > careful selection of casings and a few bits of steel bracketry at > critical points and stiffer engine and gearbox mounts, all of which do > a little but often as I can't use a dog set due to regs. > > A lot of other things have been tried, such as TIG welding, epoxy > bonding etc but the strap arrangement seems to be the better option at the moment. > As Kas says a little flex in the downstream mounting is essential. > > Fundamentally the main gearbox casings are not strong laterally or > vertically so anything you can do to stop them stretching will give benefit. > The late CC TR6 casings seem to be the best, maybe also the Dolomite > Sprint then followed by the LD and KD series stag. The old alloy is > now quite brittle so once a fault develops it quickly turns into a > major oil loss which means rapid gearbox failure due to heat. > > Also beware tapping the casing in a weak spot for an oil cooler take off. > Enough said. > > Regards > > Tony > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 22 Oct 2014, at 05:42, Kas Kastner wrote: > > > > The gearbox is probably unusable and welding will just make the > > chance of more expense very probable. I believe it is a matter of > > harmonics vibration. I found this to be true in the Early TR-4 > > cases where they cracked a the bellousing tot he gearbox . We had a > > terrible time with this. I did find one way to help the situation. > > I made two steel hangers out of 1/8" cold roll steel trap 1.5" wide > > and attached them on each side of the gearbox at the bell housing > > then up to each side of where the battery box is. I then mounted > > these straps hangers to small rubber mounts to help with the shock > > and to take soem of the weight.. This saved me many races until the > > factory finally understood my problem nd then added the big ribs > > down each side. I also added 1/2" thick aluminum ribs on the side > > of the gearbox. One case worked fine but another made it impossible > > to line up the shafts due to the case changing shape under heat. The hangers will work though. > > > > *Never be beaten by equipment.* > > > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Van Mulders Marcel < > > van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be> wrote: > > > >> In 2 years, I had 4 broken gearbox casing : maybe one of these can > >> be repaired : it has a crack where the bottom of the gear casing > >> and the rear wall are mating. Considering the weight of the engine > >> and gearbox, the stresses at that point must be very high : the 4 > >> cylinder TR's have 2 mountings at the front of the engine and 1 > >> mounting at the gearbox extension. A gearbox with overdrive has > >> this rear mounting at the very end of this extension : the shearing > >> force between casing and extension must be very high, one should > >> think that the rear wall of the casing should be pulled out all the > >> time in racing. Has someone tried welding a gearbox casing? > >> Marcel > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4.tony@virgin.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 11:24:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4A72585012 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 11:24:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m03.mx.aol.com (omr-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F30425848BF for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 11:04:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mbe01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mbe01.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.173]) by omr-m03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A161D700000B9; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 13:07:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.105] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mbe01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 4DCCD380000A8; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 13:07:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 12:07:29 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1414084052; bh=70LU8jjiqjy+Endqmd8YhSJMrsbNLGf+KQWShVdkdTg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=o+FYIcDmMMNvO6Pbsl00AAmPNZFSfN/L6i5+Bd0GCSu3K+Ypfah5Bwh4ZSpJkwbu/ FbyO8+DiNr+aLghp5P2ys/iJ8Vsevsc93zDGrWmjPXpulTcQ7eGgzoBcsGdfdZhRh6 1jVxw2gfUnlzyEbvTlATf7IJOdJDEUPEJBu636Ow= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afead544935d324c9 Subject: [Fot] Joe Cogbill & Rock Vest Last Lap Wreck at Road Atlanta Championships. Jack Wheeler Wins! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Check out this video on YouTube: http://youtu.be/hOseidpewXo This is the year that Jack Wheeler won the SCCA Championship Runoffs, and Hardy came in close 2nd. This is a thrilling 2:45 video boiled out to the essence of the win by a TR4A. You can see both Jack and Hardy in action. Jack Wheeler is going to try to join us at Summit Point in May. Wouldn't it be cool if Hardy could make it, too. Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 14:27:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5151258076D for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:27:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bcs.bcshost.com (bcs.bcshost.com [192.254.176.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD0B82580728 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:00:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f170.google.com ([209.85.214.170]:36128) by bcs.bcshost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XhOc7-0003ox-Nq for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 15:04:03 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f170.google.com with SMTP id nt9so1470170obb.1 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 13:04:02 -0700 (PDT) p11mr5506646oig.47.1414094642333; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 13:04:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.240.107 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 13:04:02 -0700 (PDT) References: <4F1E3281-F7F5-4DF4-9888-181CBC2A3D5A@cs.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 15:04:02 -0500 From: Joe Alexander To: "fot@autox.team.net" with any abuse report joe@the-vintage-racer.com Subject: [Fot] Joe Cogbill & Rock Vest Last Lap Wreck at Road Atlanta Championships. Jack Wheeler Wins! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Check out this video on YouTube: http://youtu.be/hOseidpewXo This is the year that Jack Wheeler won the SCCA Championship Runoffs, and Hardy came in close 2nd. This is a thrilling 2:45 video boiled out to the essence of the win by a TR4A. You can see both Jack and Hardy in action. Jack Wheeler is going to try to join us at Summit Point in May. Wouldn't it be cool if Hardy could make it, too. Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 14:58:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C0F825845EE for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:58:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m5.mx.aol.com (omr-m5.mx.aol.com [64.12.232.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6903125806FA for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:40:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aae02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aae02.mx.aol.com [172.27.1.100]) by omr-m5.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id BCBD5380000EC; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:43:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-ada03b.mail.aol.com (core-ada03.mail.aol.com [172.27.0.3]) by mtaomg-aae02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 72EA638000081; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:43:32 -0400 (EDT) References: <20141023033316.A73B52580712@autox.team.net> To: jason@multivintage.com Received: from 71.30.32.154 by webmail-va040.sysops.aol.com (149.174.108.81) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:43:32 -0400 From: Bruce Lapierre Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:43:32 -0400 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1414097012; bh=MXHtM0DgZePtdRwVhMgK7UydkylP7HSCbBQteeje9PA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OohS5ZPuomvS2ep83y0hwQgWxTqf0RybR3nC+t6JCoxDNKXkiEfvRYdpztgm01XZu LMJV6Qb8+AhiwPU2C2+5DMnx+9UOyaf/NXVS6VUSCyP6AVAuDRoZ4dlsBFQe+BHlxs h0hSLKg59MizCGSp2yy2aTSlhmctOZTUstIVMBLs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b016454496874088a Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Working insane amounts of time to run a particular stint (of much less time) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Glad I don't play golf. While at Elkhardt Lake you, being of The Mid-West Council, mentioned you might have some information on the whereabouts of Phil Janus (Spelling might be wrong) - - - - - - - - so - - - -- - - after you get done wupping the field at Blackhawk, and before you start getting ready for next season, could you do a little scraping of the archives and see what you can do to help me find him. Phil ran #46 out of Buffalo Grove Il, I think, `63 thru `67 claiming 1st in class for a couple years. I know Frank Underwood wrenched on it and raced against Dennis Day, Spitfire. now out of Florida and still racing. I restored it and did a bit of Solo I and II in the Akron area. Son-In-Law, Mike Mehl is pushing the car, `62 TR4, #46 in Washington State. It would be great to find the provenance of the car, as much of the race history as possible, and reunite Phil with the car if he is still with us. Anyone else in FOT land have any knowledge of Phil's whereabouts, I'd love to hear from you. Bruce Lapierre Ex-#46 fot@autox.team.net -----Original Message----- From: jason To: Fot Sent: Thu, Oct 23, 2014 4:04 pm Subject: [Fot] Working insane amounts of time to run a particular stint (of much less time) Perhaps I've used this anology before... But Imageine "getting your golf clubs ready" for an hour or two round of Golf. There is Not exactly a correlation in Hell that could get someone to understand what it takes to run well and win in amature racing. The time, and what it takes to never be beaten by equipment let alone win. Crap! I've rebuilt half the car since my last outing and now i'm faced with a leakin hole where the threads (used to be) in the front sealing block at the lower (just kind of hanging there) bolt that holds on the lowest part of the front timing cover. Seriously? The bolt just spins on a never ending cycle to no grab, and is leaking. I've got not enough time to fix it proper before thIs weekend so I overly coated the bolt with locktite (which will likely do nothing as there is nothing to lock tight). And broke out the red RTV (does that count for points for or against an effort to not be beaten by equipment?) And Coated the hell out of it; 1/4" deep... As a bad latex diaper. Any way, I've also got this strange interuptive miss or short that is really pissing me off. Perhaps its a short or ground fault in the region of the starter button (which seems to work when in wants or perhaps not), or a bad contact on the kill switch? Then again it could be points, coil, cap, rotor, condenser,etc. So, In panic we ordered 2 of every Mallory item that fits our gt6 (and other 4.2 Liter Jaguars) Sure hope that one of those parts and my surgeon like use of an emrey board onto every point of grouned electrical electrical contact works. Because I am running out of days to complete the race prep for this all impotantant 80 minute race at Blackhawk Farms this weekend. This is a big race for us midwesterners The Loooong Race ( a Midwestern Council Classic) These FoT madmen will be driving The vintage group which has 41 cars set to race... One class for all the marbles! Tony drews TR4 Sean alexander TR4 Scott barr Spitfire Brian Garcia (plymoth baracuda) Jason Ostrowski GT6 Glade Snodgrass Spitfire (fp) Who will it be that takes this victory? Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttr4@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 16:12:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D453258460C for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:12:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f50.google.com (mail-la0-f50.google.com [209.85.215.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C0E25845B1 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 15:44:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f50.google.com with SMTP id s18so1628858lam.23 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:47:27 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=L7y/fzgnLCXM8pYwx/MDacRorKHeTQRdvW7UJs1/JT0=; b=w627KqcBRVUiE74jX5NUSJnpHG8cVZRoT8tRs80jU/bOsH59d7/iyQvtxnnrWJz4q2 Pe12ly0fO/phsq6kEU+kQZtzE7MR768IeQc4Wu2y0358lNVNaq+sqJB0qmXMh4c9jSfe juBnZ7uMiUkSqRJchZ35NtqRkvkoex6ti3m3BaY38vNtBqOkuTN7orVU8bHoSzQTJY2K 4z9eWo/UsC0lpS48LDa6s74BKdSYADKOAhNkWFNSLBgdxFB2WGk01aKdRWhsxqllncQ4 d3vIe6U6GKVpkDp+wA8qxFOJwwdeW/k2fues6Ni9agA/QnRvPgkZp92+OMbxkWVHlhVC Z6eA== jf2mr311727lbc.84.1414100847154; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.20.72 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:46:46 -0700 (PDT) References: From: Kas Kastner Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:46:46 -0700 To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Video: The 1963 LA Times Grand Prix at Riverside Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net 1963 Times Grand Prix had veryone who was anyone in it. Great video. You want to see a REAL drift watch Dave Mac Donald in the King Cobra. Terrific. I was there. *Never be beaten by equipment.* http://www.macsmotorcitygarage.com/2014/10/18/video-the-1963-la-times-grand-prix-at-riverside/ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 16:13:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26CDC2584683 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:13:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f176.google.com (mail-ie0-f176.google.com [209.85.223.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED5025845B1 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 15:47:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f176.google.com with SMTP id rd18so1291099iec.35 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:51:10 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=9hc4LQ9Vw2BleQ2F9VqPD1bwPjg2EU9UqETd7p7D2WE=; b=f/TUWxcyOTCbmQcXhc1o0w2A/Td8gxyaX4x3p7LdZKsxBUJOB24A+IY9Rea0q/fUXP 09RZ3ADvgCjYuHXlCsNyi4gsutHkmWLexulbOiPg7x6aROe7St82VwWknCfoJxQ3NVi5 yjuhTnBlsx70HGm4hFVaohZHc+MCIq0ZLEBft6F52k8KLxEpQIQTg44a9PRN6aVjAFaC RFtlJIjfzEalJD701SuxIwzXzrOrK+7AK9l8OEsZVKA0caA7osr9Tdkx9YuEoRNxN5ke 3AzMWLWt9y7QfGMXjtQpgBpEV2inUhvnaXgjKxoGSkwbAlqA1EYglRgqHhDAgCuM4tV8 jM5g== u79mr415220ioi.46.1414101070493; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.43.131.65 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:51:10 -0700 (PDT) References: <4F1E3281-F7F5-4DF4-9888-181CBC2A3D5A@cs.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 17:51:10 -0400 From: John Styduhar To: Joe Alexander Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Joe Cogbill & Rock Vest Last Lap Wreck at Road Atlanta Championships. Jack Wheeler Wins! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That looked like a PIT maneuver by #38. On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > Check out this video on YouTube: > > http://youtu.be/hOseidpewXo > > This is the year that Jack Wheeler won the SCCA Championship Runoffs, and > Hardy came in close 2nd. > > This is a thrilling 2:45 video boiled out to the essence of the win by a > TR4A. > > You can see both Jack and Hardy in action. > > Jack Wheeler is going to try to join us at Summit Point in May. > > Wouldn't it be cool if Hardy could make it, too. > > > Joe Alexander > 645 1st Street > Jesup, IA 50648 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 18:15:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4FA2584651 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 18:15:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m09.mx.aol.com (omr-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2612580969 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 17:45:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com [172.26.50.176]) by omr-m09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B3CE27000009B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 19:48:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-ada03b.mail.aol.com (core-ada03.mail.aol.com [172.27.0.3]) by mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 87A7C38000081 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 19:48:47 -0400 (EDT) References: To: fot@autox.team.net From: Bruce Lapierre Received: from 71.30.32.154 by webmail-va040.sysops.aol.com (149.174.108.81) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 23 Oct 2014 19:48:47 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 19:48:47 -0400 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1414108127; bh=GszOBQ+3VrZlqttKGZ0JHVM9hD8+r2H5JY9j51zKKCA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QoJEIp/3PK7djwceuKkpCU1WmrYL59yK8J6NopjSYBl+3t6I+1eFGUuTagcdm5xH5 YzbZBM108Pkl7n4AbTzfZ/f+j5nhJ8sAz44M4vVLxJ0VurTONkuYgUIwHqo5HoxYy2 pdNktH6yQ0sR0nf7sQI7qUZXGB8vIOurViia5ajU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a32b0544993df79eb Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Video: The 1963 LA Times Grand Prix at Riverside Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Great video - thanks for sharing -----Original Message----- From: Kas Kastner To: FOT Sent: Thu, Oct 23, 2014 6:24 pm Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Video: The 1963 LA Times Grand Prix at Riverside 1963 Times Grand Prix had veryone who was anyone in it. Great video. You want to see a REAL drift watch Dave Mac Donald in the King Cobra. Terrific. I was there. *Never be beaten by equipment.* http://www.macsmotorcitygarage.com/2014/10/18/video-the-1963-la-times-grand-p rix-at-riverside/ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttr4@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 20:51:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37EF925849D9 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:51:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm32-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm32-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1947925805F9 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:31:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm32.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2014 02:34:44 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.130] by nm32.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2014 02:32:00 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.165] by tm18.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2014 02:31:53 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.252] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2014 02:31:53 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1023.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2014 02:31:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 26090 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Oct 2014 02:31:52 -0000 s=s1024; t=1414117912; bh=ko9MB/M9rxMKyuh/9o3rHqL9Vo03cmbC4I33nl0nhNY=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=g9lgTruUvayy3c3bx8d54UPrdh9aBPs8xi63Pm4oJtkwtWEy4g7HjS56H4bPEx6CJ3j90kgauw9SerV0WmlJMz7VVmaumjg7Ze0SwMyTaVPUBeaA2JxVprmyOdtsVJ0qHujxeIVBa3ffkVQfFDNyybzONSIS+M/FTcdCkfYh3us= IH1.cCQ190dU6Gt4.WTRhoH5Zy3Dd9Lp.Ih0NcuGB7gIKHa__PW77GXHvOj5 r6LvJcilZ7PKJVG0cIsEKQ_1Oh0QH0IEuSe4.YmFEu4McmPnBgkE.DgRw4lA cOt9reznI5X3m0BusVN6jWBobTCrGLpzfNVfYPY4ybuVAXTcTPX_Umqv0lDb 0Qh2n0noVPsEcfx.AfXLl5ijF_4b8WccgFT0IheGzcLBFtNVcjFFnrP9h8rY I59pW_xy2_ud96zS7U6DONFzCjlQT0RtGTtNgpZCloK7t6Ofon8D10OhvDZx 2YTUEa5ZPiKuRn0tQh53ZGouzWthivyUhfnR1_8zDu7ElI_1sWjih79FeUSM a8jGmfvvh4Gw6_K8m7ehjR_bElrToNrwP73P76lpParFnhn7EGFku321yW3M wVmVna2bmAm6HelPVpllpEJlK5SeGhMbf3l.fmDdFlnU2pUZCg2KZXIv1cvz KodBnbFEsQE0uY38UMvIVXNsi7TW7XcfJhGmGT3s3S80Om0GN3Q3ghDV.V45 Vq8YdHqPw44qoIuVTjxZPSBw7HUYxY5OJLKd8ifwlALPvtTUX_0XsiDyO2gf M92FbG2crdiTzyr3CTZ5wOP9aDRoO2pQ0cHorSqgeVwoPMV2enbjV6Qv9Gpr JW2yaGvKhUwst7D4TlTJjxz3GVBwoF28KmGBe0F3mSByHg9jLwzMudmXvRhe aBTr9EGVJX5wB27wI.ekuX4qNVyjKrjyt5mh8DgMH.qfBNSn1fUmKxHXbul4 0qzf19S9nV8A9 Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web184706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 19:31:52 PDT S2FzOiBXb3cgd2hhdCBhIGRyaXZlciBEYXZlIE1hY0RvbmFsZCB3YXMuIFRoaXMgd2FzIGp1c3QgYSB5ZWFyIGJlZm9yZSBoZSBhbmQgRWRkaWUgU2FjaHMgYm90aCBkaWVkIGluIHRoZSBjcmFzaCBhdCBJbmR5Li4uZmlmdHkgeWVhcnMgYWdvIHRoaXMgcGFzdCBNZW1vcmlhbCBEYXkuCi1FZC0gCgoKT24gVGh1cnNkYXksIE9jdG9iZXIgMjMsIDIwMTQgNToxNiBQTSwgS2FzIEthc3RuZXIgPGthc2thc3RuZXJAZ21haWwuY29tPiB3cm90ZToKICAKCgoxOTYzIFRpbWVzIEdyYW5kIFByaXggaGFkIHZlcnlvbmUBMAEBAQE- References: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 19:31:52 -0700 From: EDWARD BARNARD To: Kas Kastner , FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Video: The 1963 LA Times Grand Prix at Riverside Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Kas: Wow what a driver Dave MacDonald was. This was just a year before he and Eddie Sachs both died in the crash at Indy...fifty years ago this past Memorial Day. -Ed- On Thursday, October 23, 2014 5:16 PM, Kas Kastner wrote: 1963 Times Grand Prix had veryone who was anyone in it. Great video. You want to see a REAL drift watch Dave Mac Donald in the King Cobra. Terrific. I was there. *Never be beaten by equipment.* http://www.macsmotorcitygarage.com/2014/10/18/video-the-1963-la-times-grand-prix-at-riverside/ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 24 18:28:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6B42584A6C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 18:28:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qg0-f42.google.com (mail-qg0-f42.google.com [209.85.192.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 634382580771 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 17:31:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id z60so1767703qgd.15 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:35:18 -0700 (PDT) h=from:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:subject :message-id:date:to; bh=kDUX8POOftIOFMFEhlQhXrGhcUMw9DmWFxGWTsgxuI0=; b=KZcvNdVVMlpcPaeK2MlWioGsF3vKzbnDZkcAhpSVl5Wgo8eDE+cuVVcgYdeowuHWRY c+o/YzKrah9F85sNnpzXzWlACxSCJn/egwyH7SV7xg4jLOgkgbNoYGJT1S1Qt+Wf31rX SK6yMAgHhs2McL8H+yD2iFftOTCL6yjxjGebtkWTl0ye4vuhcuF4gNtUxU3ruNMTi9IN k5EMfQSg3LtMHI8q1vaylCNQc2AtLL/Iu9xF8igQJAv4NRU7SE7N7l/CaWZln++A3C3m 27GNtNj59geHgrdwchbm680rRxQMYi58X2YjGsaTCG6j+5RtDx8FW8CusD9BIToigUQ8 QaYA== a6mr4301314qat.16.1414193718292; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:35:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.5] (c-50-134-55-106.hsd1.va.comcast.net. [50.134.55.106]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id c88sm5373007qgf.14.2014.10.24.16.35.16 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:35:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "J.C. Hassall" Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 19:35:12 -0400 To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Picture of Bill Rinke Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici, I need a good picture of Bill pls. Kas sent me one from the K Cup (tnx Kas) but Bill's face was shaded by his hat. Hopefully someone has a good shot. Pls take time to dig thru your archives. tnx! Jim _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 25 09:58:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 117972584985 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 09:58:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm4-vm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm4-vm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955E425809CA for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 09:20:16 -0600 (MDT) s=s2048; t=1414250615; bh=v1Ufk36RHpoZYcncriMvz9yCfXtKtdw0LgG3JAHBg8s=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From:Subject; b=Ww1TdGtoPgEl1QFx8fa6Lnr4We/+c+li7WwuWIFzYpKbrWBRemIYmdxXZa6jPoHq9+u3hrKriHPmbdIjiwFGpS4ZXbRtcYkW/4o6UIsV/j3wrVJecLkEZ7MBh/39PGG2l1uT2ddgMY/tC10sJKVT5z1iPgyFvx7kutSHEx1UQY6X/t30oNFMxu/MCmElpYvEbafU41n/CuCirdxcqQNSzeP5mVl/NIiXcoarJR/MWbL7lalJieOtKeZo8y/5TnYbf68I3Id0T+9mDF569D9i2JeL/mBawUAs9w0BMKOnRXOBOS48unHDHoNZCL+rgQ3COxSRR76TXUGeb7fiGZ9zbQ== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=Wtfoq5bj6kzGCAdK2JCDDCBsXLjPSO6ZsQb+P1iSf5/Hzh6AmxQcaSKc6RyLfUaen7CeV83TDDTlbO57po8MNDTjHRSzrHZx+GZHl448bwnlczi1KhkM61D5KzBtUfpH4kKvTs1r4AcorcqJ+S1pYdcB1msMynLk1BJnvwfija8XZiJhO0ICPW3i44pRV0zCqLD4izfwfKiJPNLJmrnMVf6H7vEYivFwhPXhe7LjYZTkzmL6vEyiHWuNnakjCGzPrt9UDaQDIn/tn+r0szB8v/Ftv2G/ouE8/ziQhbkgEXVpw67O/snN2DirWFvxbDeJaOq5tSfa4rmof31QsKgJ8w==; Received: from [216.39.60.169] by nm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Oct 2014 15:23:35 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.97] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Oct 2014 15:23:35 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp117.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Oct 2014 15:23:35 -0000 XEi1PKfasf14Ej_0wlo.EoOGJVrz7KnlGwb1YidEaYZUXXP167pBVJOh6K9Y BZ7KuS5wT.6ks0DsC_JvlHAQES6aMASGOnk5JtEGEYF153W4ij7_g1WkEKFR MSuWbres5zs1bO.UznTzQwUob7j5n_iu7b0pbqo3PQ39ZTsQ4pD5X9.Zxluh GmUbgsTQj6UbbRj3v8IrZPMmt88POPjSVHqY2oEzeO8f0ANrxcRqrZflh3wR 6g.R7ml_UiQODtkAhtjr16AqHm5vXfSbCIkAslqUPDS768BaB1OllUtPq6fi VeLQjK5llTj9EH7X_jV0swZ9pMgUdNhnBl5OoPeJ4VZz7.zXISvhhbknqvLm VEEfJGNHRibeOGgNa_jR.NfIboNkfL4B7UANvlik5JPcpzOkKrjXGs2RUD.1 1fw4yC7GO2MMKXbcKjUxiC6xkvfl4DfY8qF.JkP.i2zmINVANZEmTn1C0er0 XDbgZwV4H7xZ0dXrAQVtUKj98BLwwsBp2elSzyh5aiQ-- Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 10:23:43 -0500 From: Larry Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] 1948 Triumph Roadster Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Someone posted a message about a roadster that sold on ebay a few weeks back (item 161459389578). I this rare, fully restored car only brought $24,000. That is about what a restored TR6 would bring and less that a TR3. Can anyone make sense out of this? Larry Young _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 25 10:58:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8EA2584F5F for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 10:58:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from COL004-OMC4S13.hotmail.com (col004-omc4s13.hotmail.com [65.55.34.215]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8AF22584B43 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 10:36:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from COL130-DS5 ([65.55.34.201]) by COL004-OMC4S13.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Sat, 25 Oct 2014 09:39:43 -0700 From: "Terry Stetler" To: , "Larry Young" References: <544BC07F.9010401@pobox.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 12:39:44 -0400 Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 12:39:44 -0400 FILETIME=[475E15C0:01CFF072] Subject: Re: [Fot] 1948 Triumph Roadster Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The Triumph Roaster has never had the collector/enthusiast interest of the TR series cars. They are slow, portly, and not really a sports car at all. Just a smallish touring car. Much like several American orphan cars I can think of (Kaiser-Frazer, Hudson, post war Studebaker sedans), they are only loved by a small following and hence there is little pent up demand to drive prices up. Honestly, if I had a choice of a Roadster or a TR 3/4/5/6 car, and they were in similar condition and price, I'd choose the TR every time, all day long and twice on Sunday. Your mileage may vary of course, but even though they have a very classic look, they are not much of a driver's car. Terry Stetler ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 11:23 AM Subject: [Fot] 1948 Triumph Roadster Someone posted a message about a roadster that sold on ebay a few weeks back (item 161459389578). I this rare, fully restored car only brought $24,000. That is about what a restored TR6 would bring and less that a TR3. Can anyone make sense out of this? Larry Young _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tlizzard@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 25 10:59:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D3182584F6C for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 10:59:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1F1C2584B43 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 10:42:27 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge03 smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [166.172.123.183] ([166.172.123.183:31483] helo=[10.39.101.243]) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 87/7D-07641-9B3DB445; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 16:45:47 +0000 References: <544BC07F.9010401@pobox.com> From: Bob Kramer Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 11:45:43 -0500 To: Larry Young Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] 1948 Triumph Roadster Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Limited interest vehicle, not sporty. Good for parades! Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 25, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Larry Young wrote: > > Someone posted a message about a roadster that sold on ebay a few weeks back (item 161459389578). I this rare, fully restored car only brought $24,000. That is about what a restored TR6 would bring and less that a TR3. Can anyone make sense out of this? > Larry Young > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 25 11:29:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B530258503E for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 11:29:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.135]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5290A2584B43 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 10:52:28 -0600 (MDT) s=s1024; t=1414256147; bh=uUU0Im2Zn41cvm3T6SRO7hzmBN6j04ikFak3Pgy7r6Y=; h=From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=zymC+qLvkfVwcDP3cBvI0sdwcH9sPtz3yLaZOwB3Wp4TI2i2DNLlkE+QkAlzMin+dwe+xTNa3S14xh4BbpFwEwigu3yr8IVE8csSfm7vKnYGlxhQuPtpD2oA62cN4oOuv/qaeL0tSI6rw8wFzNhIdWennECroEiX3TYTaM4ehE4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; b=EWMRwg0mqWl9PLW1Ata1mEPOXq+e0iagWh/UZrYZafZXfA3IILrti/xyPFz8tokOLWr3iCCX0dGcA66JDG5LKlSYdKAvPNZ21sdBufctivcdjpE9LNhRXEBGV2gtufst7GWIcAs0QfdiUmHC3o2kSjKTW20cIGYg/3RsSySab5A=; Received: from [216.39.60.168] by nm17.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Oct 2014 16:55:47 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.99] by tm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Oct 2014 16:55:47 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp119.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Oct 2014 16:55:47 -0000 s=s1024; t=1414256147; bh=uUU0Im2Zn41cvm3T6SRO7hzmBN6j04ikFak3Pgy7r6Y=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=mkUcEc7mmw32+AIx6UUh0ZHKs07K3KrCyotquSxiURmkwNz0DSDDgPL/MeP98U0yRRXbcdThgzrWf1/hiOIRemBMT/GRvlz1zBVnXd8Tu8YBIH4jkjtg+YmQSgSexUnGor867qq+RcT/L/DcALiGOZrejJr12ozMsARilW9EAoc= T0ed4nxOofOinfmEydOYUaZzH9skQ45KrnKm81lzHimk4A2eG0KMyyJmeHYL snlsFZNzIU0W1r6q8g9hPF1uey_gCOqw97KVykNuNvSPstilRBDgw7UTptPs WVbc7SEym0Cn8BeZaE88H3vgwjriGTdrKTEU2yVWsbVzETU7sRsZ7VBQkDbk 0IhHuUfWu9jZTNSos0L_kIn_cQjajjzYrxSNzWP_WhtsXI9Q.HnBCHtXsX.M v4MY7W72O315DUXnKQiodxKLNDDUQdwaVR8j9DeYHC9wWJCSQlKzqKxAmTtu dCwMv35iHYdhBQeM_.Ti8C58ekhYCzUZDKtGztqtekgxeRKfXFklDBHPmXPA zwU.zhRufPTh1oF06RJfQBh5xZm0GGgO.RLtcm335KFBkofXmHjIwkhaEL88 O3Cn1zC5SlGaReW.9qz.g1ly0bB_81O0ncDwcb7oA2Hb6VB_.4Ds4oguL.dc o8zELQ0Qh56dXLiOUoCA7u2CubNJJ8aJuOlMXvH1Xb9EU94zhEoq3186upT8 filGHEee6LCE_O9ac8.eR1F5G2bAU1RWyF.9WqTBHNMl9nQRm6qzyn1J5 From: "Doug Mitchell" To: "'Larry Young'" , References: <544BC07F.9010401@pobox.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 12:55:52 -0400 Thread-Index: AQK/iLQT5Al/583AmkU8imyRMNzMr5ph1yGA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] 1948 Triumph Roadster Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I may be wrong, but the Roadster is not as well known as the TR4/6, so it has to be presented correctly and at the correct venue in order to bring in the best money. ISTR that one sold a few years ago for close to double that amount. Doug -- Doug Mitchell dmitchel@sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Young Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 11:24 AM To: FOT@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] 1948 Triumph Roadster Someone posted a message about a roadster that sold on ebay a few weeks back (item 161459389578). I this rare, fully restored car only brought $24,000. That is about what a restored TR6 would bring and less that a TR3. Can anyone make sense out of this? Larry Young _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dmitchel@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 25 17:00:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2B0258043B for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 17:00:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa08-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa08-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.109]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE972580032 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 16:34:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from munsonbPC ([24.114.44.160]) by p3plsmtpa08-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id 7acQ1p00Q3TM39C01acX3d; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 15:37:55 -0700 From: "Barry Munson" To: "'FOT'" Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 16:36:22 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac/wnFOB2HMyknokRM6F+OdAUSC1IAAB3pWg Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] FW: Bill Rinke Passed Away Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici - There are just no words.... Barry From: Rick Fiske [mailto:rickfiske@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 4:02 PM To: rickfiske@aol.com Subject: Bill Rinke Passed Away You are receiving this because you have raced with Heartland Vintage Racing. Bill's daughter, Mary Grace Brownsberger, just called, and Bill passed away at 10:30am this morning Current plans are for the visitation to be held Friday, November 7, 2014. at Stumpff Chapel South, Kimberling City. Service is planned for Saturday, September 8, 2014 at the Kimberling City United Methodist Church. Burial will be at Pinecrest Cemetery, Kimberling City. The plans could still change and times will be set closer to the date. "Dodie" Rinke, Bill's wife, passed away this August 6, 2014. Dodie and Bill began their married adventure at Fairchild Air Force Base near Spokane, Washington and later lived in such places as Southern and Northern Indiana, Cincinnati and Chicago before finally locating in the Overland Park, Kansas area where they stayed for 37 years before moving to Table Rock Lake near Branson, Missouri. They have three wonderful children; Mary Grace Brownsberger of Doylestown, PA, Jim Rinke of Katy, Texas and Richard Rinke of Overland Park, Kansas. They were blessed with 10 grandchildren and 15 great grandchildren For more than 40 years, Bill and Dodie were active members of our racing community including the SCCA, Age & Treachery Racing, and Bill was the founder of Heartland Vintage Racing. Old Number "77", Bill's 1962 Super 7, will be at the Visitation and Funeral. Bill was one of the most vibrant, energetic, engaged, and elegant promoters, participant, and supporter of racing in the Midwest. He and Dodie will be missed. Rest in Peace. 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Billbs daughter, Mary Grace Brownsberger, just called, and Bill passed away at 10:30am this morning > > Current plans are for the visitation to be held Friday, November 7, 2014. at Stumpff Chapel South, Kimberling City. Service is planned for Saturday, September 8, 2014 at the Kimberling City United Methodist Church. Burial will be at Pinecrest Cemetery, Kimberling City. The plans could still change and times will be set closer to the date. > > bDodieb Rinke, Billbs wife, passed away this August 6, 2014. Dodie and Bill began their married adventure at Fairchild Air Force Base near Spokane, Washington and later lived in such places as Southern and Northern Indiana, Cincinnati and Chicago before finally locating in the Overland Park, Kansas area where they stayed for 37 years before moving to Table Rock Lake near Branson, Missouri. They have three wonderful children; Mary Grace Brownsberger of Doylestown, PA, Jim Rinke of Katy, Texas and Richard Rinke of Overland Park, Kansas. They were blessed with 10 grandchildren and 15 great grandchildren > > For more than 40 years, Bill and Dodie were active members of our racing community including the SCCA, Age & Treachery Racing, and Bill was the founder of Heartland Vintage Racing. Old Number b77b, Billbs 1962 Super 7, will be at the Visitation and Funeral. Bill was one of the most vibrant, energetic, engaged, and elegant promoters, participant, and supporter of racing in the Midwest. He and Dodie will be missed. Rest in Peace. > > Rick Fiske > President, Heartland Vintage Racing _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 25 18:00:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E01C2584509 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 18:00:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f170.google.com (mail-qc0-f170.google.com [209.85.216.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B3525807BA for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 17:45:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f170.google.com with SMTP id l6so2333496qcy.15 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 16:49:04 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ONrQl6TNUsjVlhXHckc8yig8I1pO4OoSzP17SB/G7D0=; b=mLnt60EaXjPIQZV9tKvEZ3cODucKG4IpRpbNKsBJaY2Ztx+4kUOyDUoAjT03gvBXSA qHYZ2KtlN4PTn/O2DkPsKI86vjBQhEtyDRdMlyJ3wk3jl3cqhhMlBnevzHbUq5Igo8xT bmlc5ealAfL0sr4IZslIS93ZVMdckVvEc64XZYf1ohi++QvPHrR+xrCDQpAcBuC+K5ii fnLYY5RrLWvyWCJvqlqrhkteb8K49g6kSRaFTKhOy4zD6PjdnVGglSEagJZ/D1fIct+i 09Y0CERVOjknGc4feGCjLr3ejaLAjZ/Qp28vElc78b/DXZ+mPw455Azz53KgalMkXOgZ vMpA== b2mr19560783qae.11.1414280944782; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 16:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.90.71 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 16:49:04 -0700 (PDT) References: <544BC07F.9010401@pobox.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 18:49:04 -0500 From: Roger Williams To: Larry Young Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] 1948 Triumph Roadster Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Here is a half a stag engine out of a TR 7. A friend just sent this to me looking to sell it. He needs it out of his garage. Comes with a set of webers and headers. It would go good in a spitfire . On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Larry Young wrote: > Someone posted a message about a roadster that sold on ebay a few weeks > back (item 161459389578). I this rare, fully restored car only brought > $24,000. That is about what a restored TR6 would bring and less that a > TR3. Can anyone make sense out of this? > Larry Young > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ > options/fot/coelacanth.racing@gmail.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of half a stag engine.jpg] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 26 15:01:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B5725807E8 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 15:01:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f41.google.com (mail-qa0-f41.google.com [209.85.216.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6340C25805EC for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 14:41:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id k15so696258qaq.28 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 13:45:17 -0700 (PDT) h=from:content-type:mime-version:subject:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=tDP4cOLxD13hDhMrT+IRNcObsvhwCAXIjpJxXzOdGMo=; b=ANPxWifnYt6JDItR8aOuU06oUhjAqcxSneIMNxS8RZwT2O1FFQqn5AnVNKgBu7rjjD B4mSMFSJx3sWSMNz3oi7CUlXvdIzn7N4lEsiZHs8xdRDJ6JfMK4/SOC/yyhVdFL7hBG8 7QMLQHvCLxPJsMLcqVHrIipSo1ZN6FJqyhzDfZQQnVMKVOUufavMMBo393Wt4Z2/QDdY Bn0fdHc6EMgRwkeDN7pasjyt22DfKMsIsJQT4V+w9VnGm2WtRO2NLkEfLJ6hkUByUPRY 8B0aGWfedma4g5/8q7tWy6zyT0EztE/wACzajrLjdznJWCqPJYMP0CCnHAIFdIPPS1Mm C0Nw== 3mr8522481qgz.63.1414356317442; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 13:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.5] (c-50-134-55-106.hsd1.va.comcast.net. [50.134.55.106]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id n46sm9515092qgn.9.2014.10.26.13.45.15 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 26 Oct 2014 13:45:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "J.C. Hassall" Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 16:45:14 -0400 References: <000901cff0a4$229b9c80$67d2d580$@ca> To: "rickfiske@gmail.com" Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] FW: Bill Rinke Passed Away Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Rick, Do you have a picture of him? I wish to add Bill to our tribute to FoT Departed Friends. If anyone has a good picture, pls send it to me ASAP. tnx Jim Fat-thumbed from my iPhone > On Oct 25, 2014, at 6:36 PM, "Barry Munson" wrote: > > Amici - There are just no words.... > > Barry > > > > From: Rick Fiske [mailto:rickfiske@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 4:02 PM > To: rickfiske@aol.com > Subject: Bill Rinke Passed Away > > > > You are receiving this because you have raced with Heartland Vintage Racing. > Bill's daughter, Mary Grace Brownsberger, just called, and Bill passed away > at 10:30am this morning > > > Current plans are for the visitation to be held Friday, November 7, 2014. at > Stumpff Chapel South, Kimberling City. Service is planned for Saturday, > September 8, 2014 at the Kimberling City United Methodist Church. Burial > will be at Pinecrest Cemetery, Kimberling City. The plans could still > change and times will be set closer to the date. > > > > "Dodie" Rinke, Bill's wife, passed away this August 6, 2014. Dodie and Bill > began their married adventure at Fairchild Air Force Base near Spokane, > Washington and later lived in such places as Southern and Northern Indiana, > Cincinnati and Chicago before finally locating in the Overland Park, Kansas > area where they stayed for 37 years before moving to Table Rock Lake near > Branson, Missouri. They have three wonderful children; Mary Grace > Brownsberger of Doylestown, PA, Jim Rinke of Katy, Texas and Richard Rinke > of Overland Park, Kansas. They were blessed with 10 grandchildren and 15 > great grandchildren > > > > For more than 40 years, Bill and Dodie were active members of our racing > community including the SCCA, Age & Treachery Racing, and Bill was the > founder of Heartland Vintage Racing. Old Number "77", Bill's 1962 Super 7, > will be at the Visitation and Funeral. Bill was one of the most vibrant, > energetic, engaged, and elegant promoters, participant, and supporter of > racing in the Midwest. He and Dodie will be missed. 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&LK,_w@-R'i;HL?l[/ys~xX6=l ?vLV. > 4s(hzq{V0x([C:Ik'A|VFZ > Pf)p6 > C~A0_4Ca > :i0~U9 > 1 > l@ohNtX T > `7|C~&:lRb;9CpoC > .z1([a7KFG5WbYF7C?Dj$'[|;Q,fsah+1F(E09> >> d@[5+isE > 7?xekb RfRXn=R?])BI\ > 36-9OJ > mh MJg%H6PwQR"?Y > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhassall@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 26 18:44:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F718258065E for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 18:44:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027BD2580331 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 18:26:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20141027002948.ZLUW10321.mta31.charter.net@imp10> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 20:29:48 -0400 Received: from mtaout004.msg.strl.va.charter.net ([68.114.190.29]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id 80Vo1p0010eWGlw050Vo4D; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 20:29:48 -0400 Received: from impout003 ([68.114.189.18]) by mtaout004.msg.strl.va.charter.net (InterMail vM.9.00.013.00 201-2473-140) with ESMTP id <20141027002948.SEKP13360.mtaout004.msg.strl.va.charter.net@impout003> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:29:48 -0500 Received: from wt07 ([209.225.8.57]) by impout003 with charter.net id 80Vo1p0011Dq0wp010Vo4G; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:29:48 -0500 a=l0Jv90B+oTi8TkNcUgm2Tw==:117 a=l0Jv90B+oTi8TkNcUgm2Tw==:17 a=DjgljUQ80_UA:10 a=rh1d__gNbOIA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=uF_p0VjfjcBJ5vWfPrUA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=kT4haH2ztNBFFV9HQPUA:9 Received: from [68.112.175.3] by enhanced.charter.net with HTTP; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 20:29:48 -0400 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 20:29:48 -0400 (EDT) From: damys@charter.net To: fot@autox.team.net User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Subject: [Fot] GT6 transmission Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Looking for advice on a transmission upgrade for the GT6. I've spoken with Quantum Mechanics and they offer four options. Standard GT6 box, upgraded GT6 box with TR7 gears, a TR6 trans mod and the T9 option. My fear with the GT6 option is the constant rebuilding, although I understand it offers the best ratios. The best seems to be the T9, but $3400 is a lot especially considering the other costs of building a racecar from the ground up If the T9 is the best, would it be a sound move to go with a lower diff ratio to be able to utilize 5th gear, or stick with the 3.27:1. Thanks Dave and Alex _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 26 19:29:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 626812584B82 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:29:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556612584982 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:12:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([71.116.36.193]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NE200F7EWTSEI90@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 20:15:33 -0500 (CDT) a=dgAzUI+lILTWfq/CSWBZ6Q==:117 a=IJ9pWlWUkYEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=t6SPO-Fnc4tsGl0xGi0A:9 a=XP-Kr0gE1KVIN7Ms:21 a=h1u-oIKBO6tU_3KO:21 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 From: "Bill Tobin" To: , References: <1a04aec9.eeed0.1494f0240ad.Webtop.47@charter.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 21:15:01 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 transmission Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net My two choices: Mustang 5 speed or Celica 5 speed. Both overdrive ratios, both durable, and both available for a reasonable price. Meaning cheap. I'm using the Celica and last summer put in a 4:1 diff. It works very well. My 0.02 worth. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 8:29 PM Subject: [Fot] GT6 transmission > Looking for advice on a transmission upgrade for the GT6. I've spoken > with Quantum Mechanics and they offer four options. Standard GT6 box, > upgraded GT6 box with TR7 gears, a TR6 trans mod and the T9 option. My > fear with the GT6 option is the constant rebuilding, although I > understand it offers the best ratios. The best seems to be the T9, but > $3400 is a lot especially considering the other costs of building a > racecar from the ground up > If the T9 is the best, would it be a sound move to go with a lower diff > ratio to be able to utilize 5th gear, or stick with the 3.27:1. > Thanks > Dave and Alex > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 26 20:13:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E9C425846BF for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 20:13:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2716625846BF for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:49:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from new-host-2.home (pool-71-162-132-246.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [71.162.132.246]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NE200B4TYJBZX70@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 01:52:27 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-10-27_01:2014-10-24,2014-10-26,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=18 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1408290000 definitions=main-1410270021 From: Scott Janzen Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 21:52:38 -0400 References: <1a04aec9.eeed0.1494f0240ad.Webtop.47@charter.net> To: damys@charter.net Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 transmission Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I gave up on the GT6 box a few years ago, destroying third gear every other weekend, and put in a TR6 box with a close ratio gearset sourced from British Frame and Engine. It's been extremely reliable, and it's all Triumph. I run a 3.8_ rear (3.89?) and on most tracks I don't miss a fifth gear. Some people swear by the overdrive transmissions, but I know others that have regular problems. On Oct 26, 2014, at 8:29 PM, damys@charter.net wrote: Looking for advice on a transmission upgrade for the GT6. I've spoken with Quantum Mechanics and they offer four options. Standard GT6 box, upgraded GT6 box with TR7 gears, a TR6 trans mod and the T9 option. My fear with the GT6 option is the constant rebuilding, although I understand it offers the best ratios. The best seems to be the T9, but $3400 is a lot especially considering the other costs of building a racecar from the ground up If the T9 is the best, would it be a sound move to go with a lower diff ratio to be able to utilize 5th gear, or stick with the 3.27:1. Thanks Dave and Alex _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 26 21:13:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B3C2584C3A for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 21:13:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f176.google.com (mail-ig0-f176.google.com [209.85.213.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7062584C12 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 20:50:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f176.google.com with SMTP id hn18so4986350igb.3 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:53:55 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :references:in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date :content-type:mime-version; bh=ZXlxV4j3FMFdSNFDz+N9PTRg59fO1FIXullOo8cchTQ=; b=nMyIyOlNkm9BQ48Zv8xpCVOX7nYnLg9hwbqYczOTKHxgYQc5Xf2APh9ZPy2QC84Rwe c0rpuKwBzMDcf50/QV1+DDknRE5O90h0y+wmEKIEVIzia6cRefVlnjVHTXJOHRf2M26z HMkh+9/HfMDAUf1fYtTe4QlE4DEQs+aH+5h4bQXrCu1mppuX1agS2FR8Q0+dmcwwBuVF xcM4WTnsejBt05y58t/c898lYwybVxs915EceyInkBdav+HLyzmSJwrfetIvn2ALNvam ggpYWQtGwyZ3zU/c5ISpBEt2w5GfXsWjBPH4Y/LZEqOZWmXcmB6RRPfKfNYGym4C2Xwa BUnA== c5mr1573928igo.15.1414378435635; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:53:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.190 (bda-74-82-80-161.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.161]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fk8sm4385007igb.9.2014.10.26.19.53.54 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:53:54 -0700 (PDT) References: <1a04aec9.eeed0.1494f0240ad.Webtop.47@charter.net> Sensitivity: Normal To: damys@charter.net,"Fot" ,"Fot" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 02:53:49 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 transmission Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello guys, We have tried most of the options you have listed and unfortunately, it is of my opinion that none of those options are best for a GT6. You could search the world over and not find a better person to discuss this issue than me. I have driven race cars with many different gt6 trans options and broken many, many transmisions. After years of trying and testing, We have found very sound (race proven) solutions to those problems. The bad news is that you have only two choices. A stock gt6 barn find or donor car box is the cheap and quick way to get out on track and race and learn about the perils of gt6 racing but remains in fact that these boxes must be babyed and driven carefully... And have a very short lifespan. The tr6 and t-9, which I also wouldn't recomend for other reasons. But others may find these options adequit. (Such as scott janzen who I trust very much as a source for gt6 opinion) For serious racing, the best option is what we use. It's very smart and quite expensive. This is our current custom conversion that we now use and recomend for racing. It is awesome and pretty much bullet proof. We can build and instal this "kit" now but unfortunately, it requires an FGR fab and instal for which we need to have the car in our shop to do so. We are doing two other cars this winter so the timing may be good because we would be doing multiple units. Details are not nessisarily secret, but fall within the bounds of truely interested parties only. Our product uses parts from a pair of companies that kas kastner worked for. Kas very much liked seeing our transmission in action and is proud of us for our work on solving this known problem. If I was building a car as you are, I would start with a solid drive train that I knew would not fail me. We would be happy to help you... Unfortunatly, it will cost a bit more than the T-9 you speak of, but the ratIos are much better, it will be stronger and have a more "race inspired ridgidity" Contact me anytime if you would be interested. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: damys@charter.net To: Subject: [Fot] GT6 transmission Looking for advice on a transmission upgrade for the GT6. I've spoken with Quantum Mechanics and they offer four options. Standard GT6 box, upgraded GT6 box with TR7 gears, a TR6 trans mod and the T9 option. My fear with the GT6 option is the constant rebuilding, although I understand it offers the best ratios. The best seems to be the T9, but $3400 is a lot especially considering the other costs of building a racecar from the ground up If the T9 is the best, would it be a sound move to go with a lower diff ratio to be able to utilize 5th gear, or stick with the 3.27:1. Thanks Dave and Alex _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 04:43:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D778C2584EC2 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 04:43:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm22-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm22-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.152]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF86258068A for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 04:22:53 -0600 (MDT) s=s2048; t=1414405573; bh=iOy/zKhgiTbkRHiwjPl0tH22ipoad7PQdO4OZ9BiaQc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=TZ9bBokmW6TlFfJyDolzG96tb3Ezj3ashoB6/iFP48hLnsQ3dpsa7viSvdnRYDVWZlNeRsnoGNlFqVQVUvVHiyhPbBo5EDAbRALTaurmUXwBUQkeKxX+LOasuAByQqmo2V/qH7S9QLmUXWUbzo3os8BeXZsb0Mt6chinM7VqAzvyqFPYsFvgKedO+WENVJ3xJVyFht8q1dB+MJsbScLQ96uXcOaaH7fzsv8E+NZUToRHtDj4TwGRKrSjWWd+Y5doDfgj3ylq/tF+S/M2+lzftodw1UQN0MDVtMbz9YOXZj4XLEM4/RDb99+VCiSNg+oba6y1HfadDB1TYo0ksCmC/w== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=kzBmz8a8IGslzAZZHB4wfVsgojj4wMhLwkBmWYlZcYTYhW0CmtetHhvKkUz9ROd6bI7QfcziWW0FS25d2/HBR1cCoh59ya9HTDVYN9UYeIQPjteLhAyxIZHVjT9jX0pYQlq3XcutI9PSjFttd8JxM6iW+KffVWlaYoVRCLO/CLS7scU/FwqOWFO8iWwpDzdh05nwPbkiyE/MUkfOgp5NcyrurcUubasJ6yGrfDZeFyE0VHdzzVbnk6dEE95EKR7zsFzSEnIvS141q1T8t0HLu0ludQ7YFLytiRYfdEP1ShznMWfW/LjasE/8Qgh9T/bbp3wIzpD+T/QpDze9niqRrA==; Received: from [98.138.100.103] by nm22.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2014 10:26:13 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.249] by tm102.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2014 10:26:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1041.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2014 10:26:13 -0000 GEkpZ6ZhtaTMz0eA3AuhY6TTgPKWkjN.icDf2QTdi9ouvNSWngA_4tYqL9ehETwkz6I3Ik8WNXyf mt4Awa0IFdHaHs1ljtrHX_eiIs7camef1BOfA3FUwuGH1M.cJ.zYINFa7kPxGljkn8k5gWKx61VM s2QW8KEiE2b9UXfmX_ckjxZW0ac027XD90DQ2Lqx_nz2nQnFuPf_C6UZDY.7qh8a1WGa_u4g8RlN GetXJ7RXApXQNQEyRlxDWwaDVfR6dA_aYMQcmDu7FOIgrizf9XG0VHh5r2UDHA4gfGNOj5aEt7gn 9_16MlyKzBGTU7mgp24NFij2_L5CTkPro7EL7AeKPdLbKMUT3z0exykibJLouLWIj0C21Xrjk3Wd p.MPo76KRLPAoWj5iTj0Fq4fEEiuuBz6TZAm4ctaQ9mcNRQCLYe2tBq2ngmg3bmAOxCXmT2iOp2l sJylw0ONFPsLFVhVb9HYuKUkEOsCBXVRZqDbC1DMx1T1yoHcTgPA7JZEgqlv.6y8PKAZkCA-- Received: by 98.138.105.202; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 10:26:13 +0000 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 10:25:37 +0000 (UTC) From: Brian Dennis To: "jason@multivintage.com" , "damys@charter.net" , Fot , Fot References: <20141027031418.3A50C2584C50@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 transmission Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I had similar GT6 box issues for years. My solution was a TR6 box built by Erik at Her Majesty's Auto Service in RI. I wanted something I could afford (I know oxymoron in auto racing) and something more stout. The TR6 box has full season of N.E. hillclimbing in my full race spitsix. Not a single crunch, grind or unusual noise so far. I do a lot of shifting on hillclimbs but probably not as much as a road race weekend. FYI - you will need to notch the frame rail to clear the TR6 clutch linkage. I also heated and bent the linkage lever and made a new push rod.Good luck,Brian From: "jason@multivintage.com" To: damys@charter.net; Fot ; Fot Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 transmission Hello guys, We have tried most of the options you have listed and unfortunately, it is of my opinion that none of those options are best for a GT6. You could search the world over and not find a better person to discuss this issue than me. I have driven race cars with many different gt6 trans options and broken many, many transmisions.B After years of trying and testing, We have found very sound (race proven) solutions to those problems. The bad news is that you have only two choices. A stock gt6 barn find or donor car box is the cheap and quick way to get out on track and race and learn about the perils of gt6 racing but remains in fact that these boxes must be babyed and driven carefully... And have a very short lifespan.B The tr6 and t-9, which I also wouldn't recomend for other reasons. But others may find these options adequit. (Such as scott janzen who I trust very much as a source for gt6 opinion) For serious racing, the best option is what we use. It's very smart and quite expensive.B This is our current custom conversion that we now use and recomend for racing. It is awesome and pretty much bullet proof. We can build and instal this "kit" now but unfortunately, it requires an FGR fab and instal for which we need to have the car in our shop to do so. We are doing two other cars this winter so the timing may be good because we would be doing multiple units. Details are not nessisarily secret, but fall within the bounds of truely interested parties only. Our product uses parts from a pair of companies that kas kastner worked for. Kas very much liked seeing our transmission in action and is proud of us for our work on solving this known problem. If I was building a car as you are, I would start with a solid drive train that I knew would not fail me. We would be happy to help you... Unfortunatly, it will cost a bit more than the T-9 you speak of, but the ratIos are much better, it will be stronger and have a more "race inspired ridgidity" Contact me anytime if you would be interested. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: damys@charter.net To: Subject: [Fot] GT6 transmission Looking for advice on a transmission upgrade for the GT6.B I've spoken with Quantum Mechanics and they offer four options.B Standard GT6 box, upgraded GT6 box with TR7 gears, a TR6 trans mod and the T9 option.B My fear with the GT6 option is the constant rebuilding, although I understand it offers the best ratios.B The best seems to be the T9, but $3400 is a lot especially considering the other costs of building a racecar from the ground up If the T9 is the best, would it be a sound move to go with a lower diff ratio to be able to utilize 5th gear, or stick with the 3.27:1. Thanks Dave and Alex _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britracer89@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 06:43:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0CE258505C for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 06:43:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.dieselperformanceparts.com (mail.dieselperformanceparts.com [173.221.146.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F00F2584D0C for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 06:20:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DIESEL-SERVER.dppi.local ([fe80::b8f5:2ae1:37b2:f00b]) by DIESEL-SERVER.dppi.local ([fe80::b8f5:2ae1:37b2:f00b%10]) with mapi; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 07:24:12 -0500 From: Diesel Performance Parts - Info To: "'damys@charter.net'" Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 07:24:10 -0500 Thread-Topic: [Fot] GT6 transmission Thread-Index: Ac/xf4TOUDyItjFoSZWMEyCsYochLQAYSUmQ References: <1a04aec9.eeed0.1494f0240ad.Webtop.47@charter.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Cc: "'fot@autox.team.net'" Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 transmission Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Dave & Alex, Taylor Race in Texas can set you up with a Quaife dog ring box that bolts in and should last as long as you do. Ratios are available in anything you want too. More than 3400.00 but less than driving 8 hours to race and only making one session. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, INC. 411 Allied Drive Nashville, TN 37211 866-455-7788 Phone 615-834-9923 Fax www.dieselperformanceparts.com -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of damys@charter.net Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 7:30 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] GT6 transmission Looking for advice on a transmission upgrade for the GT6. I've spoken with Quantum Mechanics and they offer four options. Standard GT6 box, upgraded GT6 box with TR7 gears, a TR6 trans mod and the T9 option. My fear with the GT6 option is the constant rebuilding, although I understand it offers the best ratios. The best seems to be the T9, but $3400 is a lot especially considering the other costs of building a racecar from the ground up If the T9 is the best, would it be a sound move to go with a lower diff ratio to be able to utilize 5th gear, or stick with the 3.27:1. Thanks Dave and Alex _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/info@dieselperformanceparts.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 09:29:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94CC725852D5 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:29:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qg0-f45.google.com (mail-qg0-f45.google.com [209.85.192.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083B2258081A for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:09:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qg0-f45.google.com with SMTP id z107so2212456qgd.18 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 08:12:43 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9XueHR7sZk5jV7RqKNS2Ibup3pvbp/NIjAeBj4e7B3E=; b=WfznXwCrmPtngws0s4Am4YEVYJgW8l29oJk/W4bRbXfdI3jGuUKud9VTXKG+BBLwpi mN2JZljz29svb0YLHCa8pAGGXbpTwPbZHr3Wb09UiPoRWdWIA1iixrp4Vjcw1OdUIFil PCxJi65yZkvj0TBsQsv651WdmArCiO1bqGsxNgETNYThYpg2Tl1NuHb8sw8H1IHXBp1m 2ymfqUTh7FGJqlEGFAp507jjLaSP8Vt2Wm1G76hea4LbR+6sRJ8vrP/eyuGTAimMvElT yMRFMaGT2mtbI/ILnQU9ZPsMDFb2LNcaFTMC+GQtgGQgVOM+EO3OU1egw30Qcscklsjq dQZw== d1mr33776353qaf.43.1414422763082; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 08:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.39.71 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 08:12:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 10:12:42 -0500 From: Jason Ostrowski To: triumph friends Subject: [Fot] Loooong Race Recap Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net You couldn't ask for a better weekend for racing and partying. I have mixed feeling about my own performance. Some things went very well. In practice and qualifying the Zippy GT6 was on a terror run. The group started with 42 cars on track and right out of the pits it seemed nothing could stop us. Weaving through traffic and laying down some killer lap times (my best so far) even with the heavy field slowing me down. Qualifying was also good as I bested my time from earlier on lap 4. Then I had a very exciting 720 degree loop-dee-loop through the carousel and off into the grass and manged to keep it going and back onto the asphalt. I was black flagged and had to come in for a reprimand. That was cool because I came out right behind 2 favorite TR racing pals Tony and Sean. Tony and I had a nice little battle for a few laps and I was able to get by him buy use of a Volvo P1800 pick. Then I charged forward to Sean... ending in a nice little drag race toward the checkerd flag. Perhaps pushing my luck by flogging the crap out it in those two sessions; it was knowingly due for a motor rebuild and started to show some signs that it may be in pain. The oil got to hot and we had too much water in the overflow. For the race I was 12th on the grid with 40 cars taking the green flag. I had a terrible start and quickly slipped back several spots due to the idiot behind the wheel not being able to put the car into the right gear. I got back to the game and had a great fight with Barb Nevrol in her pro prepped Alfa GTV. That match lasted till lap 8 when the car lost power on the downshift into turn 6. A glance at the gauges revealed a falling off a cliff drop in oil pressure so I shut it down and coasted around to the inside of turn 7, coming to a stop just past the corner station. At this point, it started to smoke heavy so I bailed out thinking it might be on fire. Putting my hand on floor next to me told the story of done for the weekend with 2 gallons of water pooled in the cockpit: overheated and overtaxed. Proving a great Bob Wismer (R.I.P.) quote true. "If you want to go fast in a Triumph; race a GT6... If you want to finish; buy a TR" Thanks Bob! The weekend went on to include some excellent wine and cheese with all of us Fot guys in the garage area that made the Beady Eyed boys famous; less some of our favorite cars with the missing #4 and the #29. Yet, even with the missing man, and no ole blue... the garage was a happy place of close Triumph friendships and some of the best evidence of what makes our group so special. (THANKS BILL and SHIRLEY!) Later in the evening we burned two truckloads of wood in our backstreet paddock spot and partied till all hours of the morning with hoards of crazy people joining in the fun. A too early morning brought on phase 2 of the racing part of the weekend as the Barracuda came late to the show and missed the first day of the vintage racing (but Brian ran the car to a big win for our Plymouth program finishing 2 races and running solid in the super production) whoo-hoo! Best of all, my sweet little girls did awesome in the big wheel race. finishing in 1st place (Naomi) age 5. and 2nd place (Fiona) age 8. adding to our long standing winning tradition of Ostrowski/Reed/Garcia Big wheel champions! Life is indeed good my friends! Thanks to all my Triumph Friends for a wonderful season! See you all at SUMMIT POINT!!!! Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Triumph GT6+'s #27 yellow and "Zippy" #69 BRG _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 09:46:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB71825852DD for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:46:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p02c12o142.mxlogic.net (p02c12o142.mxlogic.net [208.65.145.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AABE2585264 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:28:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] by p02c12o142.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.2.0-0) with SMTP id b756e445.0.16780.00-292.48951.p02c12o142.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:32:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::c824:a29e:45a5:b81c]) by ATLPEXCAS03.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 11:32:01 -0400 From: John Hasty To: Friends of Triumph Thread-Topic: HSR Savannah Classic Thread-Index: Ac/x+i8H4/pAfRO0QayygROypmk5AA== Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 15:32:00 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [192.168.123.236] a=VR8QHrWKYhK80xkEBGCjUg==] a=BLc] a=YlVTAMxI] a=W_] a=B6] a=PTgEyrDY] a=YtgYAIbuEyYJ6uu0:21] a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10] Subject: [Fot] HSR Savannah Classic Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This was my first time at the Hutchinson Island track which was built in 1997 or so for Indy cars and was used only once. Since then it has been rarely used and this HSR event is currently the only race the track is used for. We arrived late Thursday and registration was easy and considerate. Tech was as well as they accepted my annual from VDCA , something that SVRA won't do. There were two practice sessions on Friday both on time. I really like the track. Good grip. No time to relax, you are turning, shifting, braking ect. Every second of a lap and the bowl shaped turn 1 and 2 complex is a religious experience. Ceasar, Shey, Mark and Myself all liked the track. Friday night there was a reception at the Westin resort overlooking the Savannah harbor with free drinks, snacks and a kicking good country Rock band. Saturday had one practice/qualifying session and the first race. I chased two Alfas the whole race and never could pass them. The fast cars (TransAm, Chevrons etc) were in the 1:20 range, I was 1:39. Saturday night there was a shin dig held on the lawn adjacent to the spectator/vendor area overlooking turns 2,3,4&5. Free beer/wine, chicken fingers, wings, Quesada's and a rock band. There was a good number of spectators on Sat. and Sun. as well as many vendors, car mfg. car show, and even an airplane vendor. How they managed to fly that thing in there is a mystery to me. Sunday, our group race was at 10:00am, I passed one of the Alfas, caught the next one and a double yellow came out and the race finished under it. The only negative thing about the event was HSR's obvious bias against truly vintage cars. Our run group, for instance, contained 52 cars that ranged from bug eye sprites to GT 350's, 914/6's, Miata Spec Racers. RX7's, Acuras', and assorted sports racers. But, the track and the social events out weigh this in my opinion, I'll go again..... John H. Hasty | MULLEN HOLLAND & COOPER P.A. Attorney at Law 301 South York Street (zip: 28052) P.O. Box 488 Gastonia, NC 28053-0488 Telephone: 704.864.6751 | Facsimile: 704.861.8394 JHasty@mhc-law.com | www.mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 10:29:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 399E225852F3 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 10:29:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C5492584716 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 10:07:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::c167:89f3:ca7b:1966]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::c167:89f3:ca7b:1966%13]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 11:10:54 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: triumph friends Thread-Topic: [Fot] Loooong Race Recap Thread-Index: AQHP8ftWhWHcjS51E0CpI+fOwZEGDZxEGT2w Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:10:53 +0000 References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Subject: Re: [Fot] Loooong Race Recap Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm sure others will pitch in with their stories as well, but I had a great time at The Loooong Race this weekend, too. Finished all the laps, as well, thanks to assistance from FOT pals Tom Strange, Steve Yott, Jerry Barr, Ernie Husmann, and Glade Snodgrass (thanks for the brake line Glade!). This was effectively my first race weekend of the year, for a host of reasons, so there was a lot of sorting of car (and driver!) going on. The first issue encountered was a stuck right side caliper - or so I thought. When I got back to the garage, Tom and Steve dove onto the thing almost before I could even get out of my driver's suit and quickly determined that the caliper was not the problem, but the rubber brake line (yah, yah, yah, I know - just shut it). Then the trans stopped shifting smoothly and we bled the slave and replaced the master to no effect - probably a new slave cylinder needed, but I didn't have a spare or a rebuild kit with me. Fortunately, the lovely overdrive box which Steve Yott built for me has just the right gears in 3rd and 3rd overdrive for tooling around Blackhawk without using the clutch. Not the fastest laps, but sufficient for getting in some seat time. And it sounds like I need to make an after-dark stop at the Friendly Ghost Racing paddock space a regular event... Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 10:13 AM To: triumph friends Subject: [Fot] Loooong Race Recap You couldn't ask for a better weekend for racing and partying. I have mixed feeling about my own performance. Some things went very well. In practice and qualifying the Zippy GT6 was on a terror run. The group started with 42 cars on track and right out of the pits it seemed nothing could stop us. Weaving through traffic and laying down some killer lap times (my best so far) even with the heavy field slowing me down. Qualifying was also good as I bested my time from earlier on lap 4. Then I had a very exciting 720 degree loop-dee-loop through the carousel and off into the grass and manged to keep it going and back onto the asphalt. I was black flagged and had to come in for a reprimand. That was cool because I came out right behind 2 favorite TR racing pals Tony and Sean. Tony and I had a nice little battle for a few laps and I was able to get by him buy use of a Volvo P1800 pick. Then I charged forward to Sean... ending in a nice little drag race toward the checkerd flag. Perhaps pushing my luck by flogging the crap out it in those two sessions; it was knowingly due for a motor rebuild and started to show some signs that it may be in pain. The oil got to hot and we had too much water in the overflow. For the race I was 12th on the grid with 40 cars taking the green flag. I had a terrible start and quickly slipped back several spots due to the idiot behind the wheel not being able to put the car into the right gear. I got back to the game and had a great fight with Barb Nevrol in her pro prepped Alfa GTV. That match lasted till lap 8 when the car lost power on the downshift into turn 6. A glance at the gauges revealed a falling off a cliff drop in oil pressure so I shut it down and coasted around to the inside of turn 7, coming to a stop just past the corner station. At this point, it started to smoke heavy so I bailed out thinking it might be on fire. Putting my hand on floor next to me told the story of done for the weekend with 2 gallons of water pooled in the cockpit: overheated and overtaxed. Proving a great Bob Wismer (R.I.P.) quote true. "If you want to go fast in a Triumph; race a GT6... If you want to finish; buy a TR" Thanks Bob! The weekend went on to include some excellent wine and cheese with all of us Fot guys in the garage area that made the Beady Eyed boys famous; less some of our favorite cars with the missing #4 and the #29. Yet, even with the missing man, and no ole blue... the garage was a happy place of close Triumph friendships and some of the best evidence of what makes our group so special. (THANKS BILL and SHIRLEY!) Later in the evening we burned two truckloads of wood in our backstreet paddock spot and partied till all hours of the morning with hoards of crazy people joining in the fun. A too early morning brought on phase 2 of the racing part of the weekend as the Barracuda came late to the show and missed the first day of the vintage racing (but Brian ran the car to a big win for our Plymouth program finishing 2 races and running solid in the super production) whoo-hoo! Best of all, my sweet little girls did awesome in the big wheel race. finishing in 1st place (Naomi) age 5. and 2nd place (Fiona) age 8. adding to our long standing winning tradition of Ostrowski/Reed/Garcia Big wheel champions! Life is indeed good my friends! Thanks to all my Triumph Friends for a wonderful season! See you all at SUMMIT POINT!!!! Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Triumph GT6+'s #27 yellow and "Zippy" #69 BRG _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 10:59:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7690725853AE for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 10:59:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FDE7258536A for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 10:34:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::c167:89f3:ca7b:1966]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::c167:89f3:ca7b:1966%13]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 11:37:26 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: triumph friends Thread-Topic: [Fot] Loooong Race Recap Thread-Index: AQHP8ftWhWHcjS51E0CpI+fOwZEGDZxEGT2wgAALO8A= Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:37:25 +0000 References: <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50B631A70@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Subject: Re: [Fot] Loooong Race Recap Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net PS, temps in the mid-20s made sleeping in the trailer interesting. Part of The Loooong Race charm, though. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Barr, Scott Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 11:11 AM To: triumph friends Subject: Re: [Fot] Loooong Race Recap I'm sure others will pitch in with their stories as well, but I had a great time at The Loooong Race this weekend, too. Finished all the laps, as well, thanks to assistance from FOT pals Tom Strange, Steve Yott, Jerry Barr, Ernie Husmann, and Glade Snodgrass (thanks for the brake line Glade!). This was effectively my first race weekend of the year, for a host of reasons, so there was a lot of sorting of car (and driver!) going on. The first issue encountered was a stuck right side caliper - or so I thought. When I got back to the garage, Tom and Steve dove onto the thing almost before I could even get out of my driver's suit and quickly determined that the caliper was not the problem, but the rubber brake line (yah, yah, yah, I know - just shut it). Then the trans stopped shifting smoothly and we bled the slave and replaced the master to no effect - probably a new slave cylinder needed, but I didn't have a spare or a rebuild kit with me. Fortunately, the lovely overdrive box which Steve Yott built for me has just the right gears in 3rd and 3rd overdrive for tooling around Blackhawk without using the clutch. Not the fastest laps, but sufficient for getting in some seat time. And it sounds like I need to make an after-dark stop at the Friendly Ghost Racing paddock space a regular event... Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 10:13 AM To: triumph friends Subject: [Fot] Loooong Race Recap You couldn't ask for a better weekend for racing and partying. I have mixed feeling about my own performance. Some things went very well. In practice and qualifying the Zippy GT6 was on a terror run. The group started with 42 cars on track and right out of the pits it seemed nothing could stop us. Weaving through traffic and laying down some killer lap times (my best so far) even with the heavy field slowing me down. Qualifying was also good as I bested my time from earlier on lap 4. Then I had a very exciting 720 degree loop-dee-loop through the carousel and off into the grass and manged to keep it going and back onto the asphalt. I was black flagged and had to come in for a reprimand. That was cool because I came out right behind 2 favorite TR racing pals Tony and Sean. Tony and I had a nice little battle for a few laps and I was able to get by him buy use of a Volvo P1800 pick. Then I charged forward to Sean... ending in a nice little drag race toward the checkerd flag. Perhaps pushing my luck by flogging the crap out it in those two sessions; it was knowingly due for a motor rebuild and started to show some signs that it may be in pain. The oil got to hot and we had too much water in the overflow. For the race I was 12th on the grid with 40 cars taking the green flag. I had a terrible start and quickly slipped back several spots due to the idiot behind the wheel not being able to put the car into the right gear. I got back to the game and had a great fight with Barb Nevrol in her pro prepped Alfa GTV. That match lasted till lap 8 when the car lost power on the downshift into turn 6. A glance at the gauges revealed a falling off a cliff drop in oil pressure so I shut it down and coasted around to the inside of turn 7, coming to a stop just past the corner station. At this point, it started to smoke heavy so I bailed out thinking it might be on fire. Putting my hand on floor next to me told the story of done for the weekend with 2 gallons of water pooled in the cockpit: overheated and overtaxed. Proving a great Bob Wismer (R.I.P.) quote true. "If you want to go fast in a Triumph; race a GT6... If you want to finish; buy a TR" Thanks Bob! The weekend went on to include some excellent wine and cheese with all of us Fot guys in the garage area that made the Beady Eyed boys famous; less some of our favorite cars with the missing #4 and the #29. Yet, even with the missing man, and no ole blue... the garage was a happy place of close Triumph friendships and some of the best evidence of what makes our group so special. (THANKS BILL and SHIRLEY!) Later in the evening we burned two truckloads of wood in our backstreet paddock spot and partied till all hours of the morning with hoards of crazy people joining in the fun. A too early morning brought on phase 2 of the racing part of the weekend as the Barracuda came late to the show and missed the first day of the vintage racing (but Brian ran the car to a big win for our Plymouth program finishing 2 races and running solid in the super production) whoo-hoo! Best of all, my sweet little girls did awesome in the big wheel race. finishing in 1st place (Naomi) age 5. and 2nd place (Fiona) age 8. adding to our long standing winning tradition of Ostrowski/Reed/Garcia Big wheel champions! Life is indeed good my friends! Thanks to all my Triumph Friends for a wonderful season! See you all at SUMMIT POINT!!!! Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Triumph GT6+'s #27 yellow and "Zippy" #69 BRG _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 13:14:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35192584C13 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 13:14:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C89625800B5 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 12:55:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aac01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aac01.mx.aol.com [172.27.2.35]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7170C70412C5C; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 14:59:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-lga04h.mail.aol.com (core-lga04.mail.aol.com [10.76.11.4]) by mtaomg-aac01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id EA48D38000087; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 14:59:17 -0400 (EDT) References: <1a04aec9.eeed0.1494f0240ad.Webtop.47@charter.net> <2DB510DC-7FAE-4866-AE33-AF7C80F78AC0@me.com> To: sjanzen@me.com, damys@charter.net Received: from 98.77.33.233 by webmail-va159.sysops.aol.com (149.174.105.143) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 27 Oct 2014 14:59:17 -0400 From: fubog1 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 14:59:17 -0400 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1414436358; bh=hKdHrxug72bdxUG0FqbZ+tcFEWqfzrD1ake9QlUtYVs=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XInY+Imkd1Yui5qsaRsV4xt9cOTewNPBX8Md/Rwt7vgfyGU86TI1Koz78rZGyoZMr oAa9/JpkHDNk18ZgsI9+tamnhJy2DnlT1DqGK4xuxCg0Vnhe1cGhAYkpDbnguIpt3T osqBKgx+sIPWu6EwhjoeK7/7gVj5ExtVnh/ZIjtw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b0223544e960516fd Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 transmission Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm with Scott on this, the big TR box works fine, CR & overdrive discretionary, and it still says Stanpart on it... Glen and it's all Triumph -----Original Message----- From: Scott Janzen To: damys Cc: fot Sent: Mon, Oct 27, 2014 1:34 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 transmission I gave up on the GT6 box a few years ago, destroying third gear every other weekend, and put in a TR6 box with a close ratio gearset sourced from British Frame and Engine. It's been extremely reliable, and it's all Triumph. I run a 3.8_ rear (3.89?) and on most tracks I don't miss a fifth gear. Some people swear by the overdrive transmissions, but I know others that have regular problems. On Oct 26, 2014, at 8:29 PM, damys@charter.net wrote: Looking for advice on a transmission upgrade for the GT6. I've spoken with Quantum Mechanics and they offer four options. Standard GT6 box, upgraded GT6 box with TR7 gears, a TR6 trans mod and the T9 option. My fear with the GT6 option is the constant rebuilding, although I understand it offers the best ratios. The best seems to be the T9, but $3400 is a lot especially considering the other costs of building a racecar from the ground up If the T9 is the best, would it be a sound move to go with a lower diff ratio to be able to utilize 5th gear, or stick with the 3.27:1. Thanks Dave and Alex _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 15:15:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7A625850EB for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 15:15:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m08.mx.aol.com (omr-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.222.129]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB6525806C2 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 14:44:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mae02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mae02.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.144]) by omr-m08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 37E5F7031F8A4; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:48:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-lga01b.mail.aol.com (core-lga01.mail.aol.com [10.76.11.1]) by mtaomg-mae02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1141938000087; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:48:11 -0400 (EDT) References: <1a04aec9.eeed0.1494f0240ad.Webtop.47@charter.net> To: info@dieselperformanceparts.com, damys@charter.net Received: from 199.127.132.170 by webmail-vm187.sysops.aol.com (149.174.158.122) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:48:09 -0400 From: jeffwhall@aol.com Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:48:09 -0400 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1414442892; bh=/vn9Rn34xJN6Xrgb4G5bK2h2hN5ErohnL1jz11KKnXA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XIWx+ciowff2hL3a/MA2vh9fj5ubx6Ey9rYrKQT3nspCxQYIv/Ti69NS1tX3Lnv30 T6uvv2U75WN/f9nn3xN5rhljNfyFzQHLRSePjBZn1NmbmnsXE4ngMnFaXp9Qtgqpg6 +ybpO6YX5eGXA7OjQ6lsoTv+BkQTw6rrGaplYJoM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afe90544eaf8b0bd7 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have a major tuning challenge on my 1971 GT6. The Stromberg carbs are WAY out of calibration. I just had them rebuilt by a professional, the fuel pressure is 3 PSI. As I run the car the pistons move up and down continuously. Can anyone give advice on what to do? Jeffrey W. Hall -----Original Message----- From: Diesel Performance Parts - Info To: 'damys@charter.net' Cc: 'fot@autox.team.net' Sent: Mon, Oct 27, 2014 11:34 am Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 transmission Dave & Alex, Taylor Race in Texas can set you up with a Quaife dog ring box that bolts in and should last as long as you do. Ratios are available in anything you want too. More than 3400.00 but less than driving 8 hours to race and only making one session. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, INC. 411 Allied Drive Nashville, TN 37211 866-455-7788 Phone 615-834-9923 Fax www.dieselperformanceparts.com -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of damys@charter.net Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 7:30 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] GT6 transmission Looking for advice on a transmission upgrade for the GT6. I've spoken with Quantum Mechanics and they offer four options. Standard GT6 box, upgraded GT6 box with TR7 gears, a TR6 trans mod and the T9 option. My fear with the GT6 option is the constant rebuilding, although I understand it offers the best ratios. The best seems to be the T9, but $3400 is a lot especially considering the other costs of building a racecar from the ground up If the T9 is the best, would it be a sound move to go with a lower diff ratio to be able to utilize 5th gear, or stick with the 3.27:1. Thanks Dave and Alex _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/info@dieselperformanceparts.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffwhall@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 15:16:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C65258512B for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 15:16:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f46.google.com (mail-oi0-f46.google.com [209.85.218.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05C525806C2 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 14:48:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f46.google.com with SMTP id g201so2114720oib.5 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 13:52:18 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=yVpgGLkJpXceXsAlYktMky7qi5sO8bnLsFKniNCrciY=; b=dOtbYgwT1nbtYHOPnBa6rg8MLdTgpN5IUegxBcVM1E/qvczjvZRHWuaen+en5PYK1f jXyzak41YPUFlUgy0S3gEgaKESS7cABDuwKnRTbPVGZoBFgRyJkrdTmLSOC9NEIFJ/5R D+cu4hrMo/FQmAFkj9MIQkSh4p8kTIt/7+15RD2iPGH2F3LGTxSlraooPEqxNHZVG0ZL 11W6LvEHXyc6s7zbyBDO6kqKMUcgO5sWbRFd6K+Ao9nOzWtPgLFAIvdhp1hoJOwrtO4P XGbxY6g5sTMQIJu4EiNFqtdwTzkeuYr+Tt4lHugMktRn9JVMxHvq/u24B4zaUvRVwjhq fibw== ou14mr3340549oeb.73.1414443138191; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 13:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.107.206 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 13:51:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "Enquiries Road & Track" Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 06:51:57 +1000 To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] re GT6 transmission Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net same issues. got sick of breaking the stock ones built a hybrid box with TR7 gears, had them shot peened,micro polished and I even converted the cluster to taper rollers. still would not handle the power under hard race conditions. chipped/broken mainshaft gear teeth (but no more cluster gear failures) the overdrive never gave 1 ounce of trouble. fitted close ratio TR6 box with taper roller laysheaft conversion. the biggest issue might be what your race sanctioning authority will allow for historic racing. if you just do simple stuff and 'race what you bring", then it probably wont be a hassle, but if its a SCCA or similar event, consult the rule book and other racers first. I recall seeing comment from other racers in the USA about this topic before. my business does this stull all the time over here (australia), so none of it is a hassle for me. we do lots of toyota boxes. i can tell you the sweet little Toyota T5 box starts to fall apart at 2000hp.if you are under that, use that box if you want to swap as its light & simple and still relatively available used. the big heavy celica box has just as many troubles as a TR6 box unless you spend a small fortune on them. ratio changes on either Toyota cost a small fortune. Terry _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 15:44:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03502585108 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 15:44:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4226D2585088 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 15:26:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.99.30] (c-68-80-11-16.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [68.80.11.16]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NE400DNFH2DX4A0@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:30:15 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-10-27_05:2014-10-27,2014-10-27,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=4 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1408290000 definitions=main-1410270199 From: Scott Janzen Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 17:30:30 -0400 References: <1a04aec9.eeed0.1494f0240ad.Webtop.47@charter.net> <8D1C03E72B36F43-12EC-18596@webmail-vm187.sysops.aol.com> To: jeffwhall@aol.com Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net were they mis-behaving before they were rebuilt? On Oct 27, 2014, at 4:48 PM, jeffwhall@aol.com wrote: I have a major tuning challenge on my 1971 GT6. The Stromberg carbs are WAY out of calibration. I just had them rebuilt by a professional, the fuel pressure is 3 PSI. As I run the car the pistons move up and down continuously. Can anyone give advice on what to do? Jeffrey W. Hall -----Original Message----- From: Diesel Performance Parts - Info To: 'damys@charter.net' Cc: 'fot@autox.team.net' Sent: Mon, Oct 27, 2014 11:34 am Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 transmission Dave & Alex, Taylor Race in Texas can set you up with a Quaife dog ring box that bolts in and should last as long as you do. Ratios are available in anything you want too. More than 3400.00 but less than driving 8 hours to race and only making one session. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, INC. 411 Allied Drive Nashville, TN 37211 866-455-7788 Phone 615-834-9923 Fax www.dieselperformanceparts.com -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of damys@charter.net Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 7:30 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] GT6 transmission Looking for advice on a transmission upgrade for the GT6. I've spoken with Quantum Mechanics and they offer four options. Standard GT6 box, upgraded GT6 box with TR7 gears, a TR6 trans mod and the T9 option. My fear with the GT6 option is the constant rebuilding, although I understand it offers the best ratios. The best seems to be the T9, but $3400 is a lot especially considering the other costs of building a racecar from the ground up If the T9 is the best, would it be a sound move to go with a lower diff ratio to be able to utilize 5th gear, or stick with the 3.27:1. Thanks Dave and Alex _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/info@dieselperformanceparts.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffwhall@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 16:00:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0039B2585130 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:00:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C3B2585230 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 15:44:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88212C03CA for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 15:47:55 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 15:47:54 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <1a04aec9.eeed0.1494f0240ad.Webtop.47@charter.net> <8D1C03E72B36F43-12EC-18596@webmail-vm187.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net jeffwhall@aol.com wrote: > I have a major tuning challenge on my 1971 GT6. The Stromberg carbs are WAY > out of calibration. I just had them rebuilt by a professional, the fuel > pressure is 3 PSI. As I run the car the pistons move up and down continuously. > Can anyone give advice on what to do? First thing I would do is check for oil in the dampers. Second would be dry/wet compression test. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 16:14:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2700D258512B for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:14:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f52.google.com (mail-oi0-f52.google.com [209.85.218.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4147258080B for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 15:53:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f52.google.com with SMTP id a3so4049194oib.25 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 14:56:46 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UYMiArjYG1D5Ttej7oTjv7/R88f0F61TEeLEIT81zfs=; b=oZu36KVsRPljDHlcFVLP15CUs5ivKI2b9rP4BBSK8YMDcHKvXU8TfuQlfB9hTWHfXx K3J1E+YqhKyIIeweW4VKlFg0IVRmCYFQX1IkK1wzLI9SFBmDnABd1PneAxyZbHJQy+kX g5NOCTcRMt4I7e+aELc6gvHoqxjZ+qKK5oHGK8j9ST951Vfyr0+BJYb8k9B5Julkx3M1 tD0sL31DOmULVsOYYuDV22hWXi0bajQGGj2HhL2hk2y38bEPI+ceyaQDL5Tnl2X/Q10E gE4JxnPtN+PLDx4S9iorqrHXBqPfW0gd2liGKnuv1y6QqGMGJOAexLKa7sVZJlxTEzXo yA9g== o79mr21434285oik.41.1414447006715; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 14:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Duncans-MacBook-Pro.local (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 2sm5566170obq.29.2014.10.27.14.56.46 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 27 Oct 2014 14:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:56:45 -0500 From: Duncan Charlton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <1a04aec9.eeed0.1494f0240ad.Webtop.47@charter.net> <8D1C03E72B36F43-12EC-18596@webmail-vm187.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net 20 weight oil in the dampers? Damper pistons have intact rings? Damper covers screwed down evenly? All emissions controls holes blocked? No other coincidental changes to the engine such as camshaft timing, ignition timing, valve adjustments, etc? I have one SU on a TR street engine that does this slightly, so I'm hoping we'll hear a few more ideas. Duncan (Texas) On 10/27/14, 3:48 PM, jeffwhall@aol.com wrote: > I have a major tuning challenge on my 1971 GT6. The Stromberg carbs are WAY > out of calibration. I just had them rebuilt by a professional, the fuel > pressure is 3 PSI. As I run the car the pistons move up and down continuously. > Can anyone give advice on what to do? > > Jeffrey W. Hall > > > -----Original > Message----- > From: Diesel Performance Parts - Info > > To: 'damys@charter.net' > Cc: 'fot@autox.team.net' > Sent: Mon, Oct 27, 2014 11:34 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 transmission > > > Dave & Alex, > > Taylor Race in Texas can > set you up with a Quaife dog ring box that bolts in > and should last as long as > you do. Ratios are available in anything you want > too. More than 3400.00 but > less than driving 8 hours to race and only making > one session. > > Mark Craig > Diesel Performance Parts, INC. > 411 Allied Drive > Nashville, TN 37211 > 866-455-7788 Phone > 615-834-9923 Fax > > www.dieselperformanceparts.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of damys@charter.net > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 7:30 PM > To: > fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] GT6 transmission > > Looking for advice on a > transmission upgrade for the GT6. I've spoken with > Quantum Mechanics and they > offer four options. Standard GT6 box, upgraded GT6 > box with TR7 gears, a TR6 > trans mod and the T9 option. My fear with the GT6 > option is the constant > rebuilding, although I understand it offers the best > ratios. The best seems > to be the T9, but > $3400 is a lot especially considering the other costs of > building a racecar > from the ground up If the T9 is the best, would it be a > sound move to go with > a lower diff ratio to be able to utilize 5th gear, or > stick with the 3.27:1. > Thanks > Dave and Alex > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/info@dieselperformanceparts.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffwhall@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 16:30:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861D72585264 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:30:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7EAF258080B for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:05:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.233]) by resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 8N7z1p00552QWKC01N8ru7; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 22:08:51 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-503v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.178.3]) by resomta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 8N8q1p00Y04nC6y01N8q0P; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 22:08:51 +0000 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 22:08:50 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Friends of Triumph Thread-Topic: Left hand TR6 upright needed Thread-Index: WYNJttNv/EoMJesvOHuoTLNb+Ck93A== s=q20140121; t=1414447731; bh=JXzcp8jM6QCgaYE8vm7IMaIpJlvUPTV0qvrITCsPCVQ=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=M7RIAK/279Ln5h8tZ4oVfd3Nefh06z4mQaQXaRqtm8KEXS22tF+/e+5LyPFTwtyTG 6AL7UtiE+XtZPbAMihUx6WRck2sukUtkroMvUw+XxdI71DlzP0/yJhX11pyaqmFYMv dKncE5iykB4cYrKrUswFCpYwfBoC8GbBnggMFftgsY6dQGMnQjekmFdavfJ16+AosS 2F8yay/xwxsNb2Igg8V/mbEU+ByNcb7l5YPyBCpfcbovtP9aqaMndZ7fLEY0PcvW3P XV7TJrBG8YuB1yUt9NIxkbDic+lN3ZMR0W6lGaij4keYs3QjJX/zxVkaK3+WDebSoj r+gVKT2Ba9ruw== Subject: [Fot] Left hand TR6 upright needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, I'd like to switch to the TR6 suspension bits and I'm in need of a left hand upright. I acquired some parts a while back and I found the left upright to be bent. I'd also appreciate a set of lower arms, one side, as well. Thanks, Dave H. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 17:01:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2522585108 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 17:01:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f171.google.com (mail-ie0-f171.google.com [209.85.223.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228652580AE8 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:37:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f171.google.com with SMTP id x19so5420157ier.30 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 15:41:09 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :references:in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date :content-type:mime-version; bh=ZpxiXLuMMH/+EdsPVv7EianasVa1lGg/aDxAItk45F0=; b=iyKpKhi494E3gWhKVsnydLeh4Z7XAXg/7fwRfKd5KZ4reaDy43EBNPri/KyNQV+fCC ECAlCPBgBNRKBg3Ud6Wuo74Xbpqlq3EAkutbYd3wrK7ZEBXynsRvHnFNCaqPiXXS13I/ 8qBi1emQyA34W49RfXD3fDJqw49j1ykafflpAwCI4QYk4PeCUB7IKa3UkCzIexdQkwc/ JEf2LaAMHBVL1CR+BQMqQLvZo7/vEibdE724erYNob1okos65jzqgtJiaGOzE1cJHGwv uPKY9wot7Uhoz9A8kgFVS89/HNcZVPRwsolNggUgkfvztiv+wDJMw9VtlGvvutcPBD6d xvQw== kc1mr384059igb.28.1414449668903; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 15:41:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.190 (bda-74-82-80-161.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.161]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id h5sm5575295igo.5.2014.10.27.15.41.07 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 27 Oct 2014 15:41:08 -0700 (PDT) References: <1a04aec9.eeed0.1494f0240ad.Webtop.47@charter.net> <8D1C03E72B36F43-12EC-18596@webmail-vm187.sysops.aol.com> <544EBF9D.5070008@gmail.com> Sensitivity: Normal To: "Duncan Charlton" ,"Fot" ,"Fot" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 22:41:06 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net What happens when you hold the pistons up and let them fall? They shoul both fall evenly and all the way down and click when it falls to the bottom? This simple check can eliminate several possible problems. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton To: Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning 20 weight oil in the dampers? Damper pistons have intact rings? Damper covers screwed down evenly? All emissions controls holes blocked? No other coincidental changes to the engine such as camshaft timing, ignition timing, valve adjustments, etc? I have one SU on a TR street engine that does this slightly, so I'm hoping we'll hear a few more ideas. Duncan (Texas) On 10/27/14, 3:48 PM, jeffwhall@aol.com wrote: > I have a major tuning challenge on my 1971 GT6. The Stromberg carbs are WAY > out of calibration. I just had them rebuilt by a professional, the fuel > pressure is 3 PSI. As I run the car the pistons move up and down continuously. > Can anyone give advice on what to do? > > Jeffrey W. Hall > > > -----Original > Message----- > From: Diesel Performance Parts - Info > > To: 'damys@charter.net' > Cc: 'fot@autox.team.net' > Sent: Mon, Oct 27, 2014 11:34 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 transmission > > > Dave & Alex, > > Taylor Race in Texas can > set you up with a Quaife dog ring box that bolts in > and should last as long as > you do. Ratios are available in anything you want > too. More than 3400.00 but > less than driving 8 hours to race and only making > one session. > > Mark Craig > Diesel Performance Parts, INC. > 411 Allied Drive > Nashville, TN 37211 > 866-455-7788 Phone > 615-834-9923 Fax > > www.dieselperformanceparts.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of damys@charter.net > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 7:30 PM > To: > fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] GT6 transmission > > Looking for advice on a > transmission upgrade for the GT6. I've spoken with > Quantum Mechanics and they > offer four options. Standard GT6 box, upgraded GT6 > box with TR7 gears, a TR6 > trans mod and the T9 option. My fear with the GT6 > option is the constant > rebuilding, although I understand it offers the best > ratios. The best seems > to be the T9, but > $3400 is a lot especially considering the other costs of > building a racecar > from the ground up If the T9 is the best, would it be a > sound move to go with > a lower diff ratio to be able to utilize 5th gear, or > stick with the 3.27:1. > Thanks > Dave and Alex > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/info@dieselperformanceparts.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffwhall@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 18:02:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D2325852DF for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 18:02:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm30-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm30-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.126]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430882580458 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 17:40:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.174] by nm30.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2014 23:44:05 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.251] by tm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2014 23:44:05 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1060.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2014 23:44:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 37223 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Oct 2014 23:44:05 -0000 s=s1024; t=1414453445; bh=58oi8+XxZVAx4hNDWL/1T8ZahO6ud5TR0a0s/lz+hNM=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=iSS0aQ/LmlXLZ+pLql4d6/3bFGdQGjZb+ZI3zsieqCaKfUiFpy6wdhmsikNbzs8plpTcQdsc2lAUF702DxuNduQ9n2Ismk4Dd3/3WmJ1tASQenkKAKKYu/uakACWspsDb5EG8oRSrGyXoPdBXoNbyXV4YRk8Q6Ne46a4+LJFAow= 5Ze7CX4zk8N2.5P4zdWccolG4G8aBRsXkcNuEk3TxyNKtImJFZ8FVE0pQazQ GLepeC.KO80lM0EIjt7ZFS3nILVwe5Lkm3DqgQb.hCqT.4Qmy6Qxr1z7sphG i2u62ILwUUXzMFfYlUDn8h2JrpwqvWPcfJ1DN5prPRvMp5k9La3gWy3DPj5s JE2Dn_ysrz4EhO98.yFQpMN3Fnf_xW.UXOrO.G8ycngd_d90wVXtV0dtyDJi ULcXjw9o0U22_kA.x_HVL_fXIZB_02JzDER3f6_P73VyPCt6s.yNK5xN.XWC Ys3pUZZjyJ0hu8TZEVz17dPznx00znUn40gnNQ7WZ8bC9V5id5kC4CywnGcl 9yIMqVHtT3PSWjZfHjzoqHebbn6_KmkU3c01LAmsV31DuWWGl5awBuZPITLB jJyI06XVlvO6FSCNuK40xreH4JxdftbwQPMArV9S6CfyZZvmbKs0b5GvYTby LuWG4Bo3LregMCb26RICeGdunR9U_Ay4MhEKFPgx2Ca4wJMXVePLXKADLaDj fEczHRCsqjdVB7K0ZuAFJQl8yzBr4f0o7LjjILtlVJK.o9FZ8NFrzVt2GC6c w5uBRfJTQFII- Received: from [166.182.66.73] by web140105.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:44:05 PDT Tm93IFNjb3R0LCB0aGUgbG93IHRlbXAgU2F0dXJkYXkgbmlnaHQgd2FzIG9ubHkgMjcuIEdyZWF0IG5pZ2h0IGZvciBzbGVlcGluZyBpbiB0aGUgYmFjayBvZiB0aGUgdHJ1Y2suIEhleSBKYXNvbiB3aGF0IHdhcyBoYXBwZW5pbmcgYXQgRnJpZW5kbHkgR2hvc3QgdGhzdCBJIG1pc3NlZCBvdXQgb24_IEdyZWF0IHdlZWtlbmQuCgpTZW50IGZyb20gWWFob28hIE1haWwgb24gQW5kcm9pZAoKATABAQEB Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:44:05 -0700 From: Ernest Husmann To: FOT , Scott Barr Subject: Re: [Fot] Loooong Race Recap Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Now Scott, the low temp Saturday night was only 27. Great night for sleeping in the back of the truck. Hey Jason what was happening at Friendly Ghost thst I missed out on? Great weekend. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 18:46:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E341C258529F for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 18:46:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p02c12o147.mxlogic.net (p02c12o147.mxlogic.net [208.65.145.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56942584D25; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 18:27:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO ATLPEXCAS03.xc.lan) by p02c12o147.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.2.0-0) with ESMTP id ab3ee445.2ba9dc20e940.13271.00-586.34021.p02c12o147.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Mon, 27 Oct 2014 18:30:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO ATLPEXCAS03.xc.lan) by p02c12o147.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.2.0-0) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id 6b3ee445.0.13252.00-375.33974.p02c12o147.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Mon, 27 Oct 2014 18:30:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::c824:a29e:45a5:b81c]) by ATLPEXCAS03.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 20:30:36 -0400 From: John Hasty To: "" Thread-Topic: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning Thread-Index: AQHP8jppjYxLC+vPpEG++NMzKiwp9pxEqFIZ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 00:30:35 +0000 References: <1a04aec9.eeed0.1494f0240ad.Webtop.47@charter.net> <8D1C03E72B36F43-12EC-18596@webmail-vm187.sysops.aol.com> <544EBF9D.5070008@gmail.com>,<20141027230138.789C72585281@autox.team.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US a=VR8QHrWKYhK80xkEBGCjUg==] a=kj9] a=YlVTAMxI] a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 ] a=JcvzP] a] a] Cc: Fot , Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Gee whiz, was it really 27? We felt put upon at 59 in Savannah, actually had to put on a long sleeve shirt. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 27, 2014, at 7:04 PM, "jason@multivintage.com" wrote: > > What happens when you hold the pistons up and let them fall? They shoul both fall evenly and all the way down and click when it falls to the bottom? This simple check can eliminate several possible problems. > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: Duncan Charlton > Sender: "Fot" Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:56:45 > To: > Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning > > 20 weight oil in the dampers? Damper pistons have intact rings? Damper > covers screwed down evenly? All emissions controls holes blocked? No > other coincidental changes to the engine such as camshaft timing, > ignition timing, valve adjustments, etc? I have one SU on a TR street > engine that does this slightly, so I'm hoping we'll hear a few more ideas. > > Duncan > (Texas) > >> On 10/27/14, 3:48 PM, jeffwhall@aol.com wrote: >> I have a major tuning challenge on my 1971 GT6. The Stromberg carbs are WAY >> out of calibration. I just had them rebuilt by a professional, the fuel >> pressure is 3 PSI. As I run the car the pistons move up and down continuously. >> Can anyone give advice on what to do? >> >> Jeffrey W. Hall >> >> >> -----Original >> Message----- >> From: Diesel Performance Parts - Info >> >> To: 'damys@charter.net' >> Cc: 'fot@autox.team.net' >> Sent: Mon, Oct 27, 2014 11:34 am >> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 transmission >> >> >> Dave & Alex, >> >> Taylor Race in Texas can >> set you up with a Quaife dog ring box that bolts in >> and should last as long as >> you do. Ratios are available in anything you want >> too. More than 3400.00 but >> less than driving 8 hours to race and only making >> one session. >> >> Mark Craig >> Diesel Performance Parts, INC. >> 411 Allied Drive >> Nashville, TN 37211 >> 866-455-7788 Phone >> 615-834-9923 Fax >> >> www.dieselperformanceparts.com >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On >> Behalf Of damys@charter.net >> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 7:30 PM >> To: >> fot@autox.team.net >> Subject: [Fot] GT6 transmission >> >> Looking for advice on a >> transmission upgrade for the GT6. I've spoken with >> Quantum Mechanics and they >> offer four options. Standard GT6 box, upgraded GT6 >> box with TR7 gears, a TR6 >> trans mod and the T9 option. My fear with the GT6 >> option is the constant >> rebuilding, although I understand it offers the best >> ratios. The best seems >> to be the T9, but >> $3400 is a lot especially considering the other costs of >> building a racecar >> from the ground up If the T9 is the best, would it be a >> sound move to go with >> a lower diff ratio to be able to utilize 5th gear, or >> stick with the 3.27:1. >> Thanks >> Dave and Alex >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: >> http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/info@dieselperformanceparts.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: >> http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffwhall@aol.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 19:33:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17B1258546C for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 19:33:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m1.mx.aol.com (omr-m1.mx.aol.com [64.12.224.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD87258053B for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 19:15:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aak02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aak02.mx.aol.com [172.27.2.228]) by omr-m1.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id F036A380000C2; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:18:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-lga05c.mail.aol.com (core-lga05.mail.aol.com [10.76.11.5]) by mtaomg-aak02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 6AE8C38000085; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:18:50 -0400 (EDT) References: <1a04aec9.eeed0.1494f0240ad.Webtop.47@charter.net> <8D1C03E72B36F43-12EC-18596@webmail-vm187.sysops.aol.com> <544EBF9D.5070008@gmail.com>,<20141027230138.789C72585281@autox.team.net> To: jhasty@mhc-law.com, jason@multivintage.com Received: from 63.227.139.186 by webmail-va148.sysops.aol.com (149.174.109.211) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:18:50 -0400 From: jeffwhall@aol.com Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:18:50 -0400 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1414459131; bh=bL8CINs8anUDw1ouf7eSvqvtbxMxUiEIUHbaLkQiC7k=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QSK08jXb7zQJJm9IRkO4990sF2+8zn0/UZPx+zHSenqCpoCCK8qUYgF9SYn9H5pt7 VYso6pkFZYFYrgX1Hf4m+iXHHnLJS5q+xF8khYPtPbE967bVwvsKow5iQwCv9M8oIk lv0y00nMFYGZwsY907XafugFH3Akt11MuZUOlF/8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b02e4544eeefa452e Cc: fot-bounces@autox.team.net, fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net 20 weight oil check, pistons fall evenly and click check, All emissions controls holes blocked? Check, camshaft timing, > ignition timing, valve adjustments, etc? engine was rebuilt and timing advanced. Jeffrey W. Hall -----Original Message----- From: John Hasty To: Cc: Fot ; Fot Sent: Mon, Oct 27, 2014 6:49 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning Gee whiz, was it really 27? We felt put upon at 59 in Savannah, actually had to put on a long sleeve shirt. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 27, 2014, at 7:04 PM, "jason@multivintage.com" wrote: > > What happens when you hold the pistons up and let them fall? They shoul both fall evenly and all the way down and click when it falls to the bottom? This simple check can eliminate several possible problems. > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: Duncan Charlton > Sender: "Fot" Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:56:45 > To: > Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning > > 20 weight oil in the dampers? Damper pistons have intact rings? Damper > covers screwed down evenly? All emissions controls holes blocked? No > other coincidental changes to the engine such as camshaft timing, > ignition timing, valve adjustments, etc? I have one SU on a TR street > engine that does this slightly, so I'm hoping we'll hear a few more ideas. > > Duncan > (Texas) > >> On 10/27/14, 3:48 PM, jeffwhall@aol.com wrote: >> I have a major tuning challenge on my 1971 GT6. The Stromberg carbs are WAY >> out of calibration. I just had them rebuilt by a professional, the fuel >> pressure is 3 PSI. As I run the car the pistons move up and down continuously. >> Can anyone give advice on what to do? >> >> Jeffrey W. Hall >> >> >> -----Original >> Message----- >> From: Diesel Performance Parts - Info >> >> To: 'damys@charter.net' >> Cc: 'fot@autox.team.net' >> Sent: Mon, Oct 27, 2014 11:34 am >> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 transmission >> >> >> Dave & Alex, >> >> Taylor Race in Texas can >> set you up with a Quaife dog ring box that bolts in >> and should last as long as >> you do. Ratios are available in anything you want >> too. More than 3400.00 but >> less than driving 8 hours to race and only making >> one session. >> >> Mark Craig >> Diesel Performance Parts, INC. >> 411 Allied Drive >> Nashville, TN 37211 >> 866-455-7788 Phone >> 615-834-9923 Fax >> >> www.dieselperformanceparts.com >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On >> Behalf Of damys@charter.net >> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 7:30 PM >> To: >> fot@autox.team.net >> Subject: [Fot] GT6 transmission >> >> Looking for advice on a >> transmission upgrade for the GT6. I've spoken with >> Quantum Mechanics and they >> offer four options. Standard GT6 box, upgraded GT6 >> box with TR7 gears, a TR6 >> trans mod and the T9 option. My fear with the GT6 >> option is the constant >> rebuilding, although I understand it offers the best >> ratios. The best seems >> to be the T9, but >> $3400 is a lot especially considering the other costs of >> building a racecar >> from the ground up If the T9 is the best, would it be a >> sound move to go with >> a lower diff ratio to be able to utilize 5th gear, or >> stick with the 3.27:1. >> Thanks >> Dave and Alex >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: >> Archive: >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/info@dieselperformanceparts.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: >> http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffwhall@aol.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffwhall@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 19:47:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E36AE25854A9 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 19:47:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m08.mx.aol.com (omr-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.222.129]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49431258053B for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 19:18:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mcb01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mcb01.mx.aol.com [172.26.50.175]) by omr-m08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8D90B7000008C; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:21:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-lga05c.mail.aol.com (core-lga05.mail.aol.com [10.76.11.5]) by mtaomg-mcb01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 3A29D38000081; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:21:59 -0400 (EDT) References: <1a04aec9.eeed0.1494f0240ad.Webtop.47@charter.net> <8D1C03E72B36F43-12EC-18596@webmail-vm187.sysops.aol.com> <544EBD8A.5090707@bradakis.com> To: mark@bradakis.com, fot@autox.team.net From: jeffwhall@aol.com Received: from 63.227.139.186 by webmail-va148.sysops.aol.com (149.174.109.211) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:21:58 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:21:59 -0400 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1414459319; bh=MNtlFd4sZJOVK554/3HQUkGWWFSJ8tfbazf6h73dDKs=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sxXNpZeCGWi97vBooGUMd32/ZuuXhTDtS2O00cEXsvibFH2uxpYe23fB0uHFaqM5v P1WN+9F/uq1IoMbW7PIEePbU9U9vAgB/wozsutRR+IxNrwtY/nFWkZ+KKeORMuOncB 9QM6ZDEM2O7nI58M6hW/GtQ/WLZeo13hHT28sPJI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a32af544eefb7150f Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Oil is ok. I will check compression. Jeffrey W. Hall -----Original Message----- From: Mark J Bradakis To: fot Sent: Mon, Oct 27, 2014 4:03 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning jeffwhall@aol.com wrote: > I have a major tuning challenge on my 1971 GT6. The Stromberg carbs are WAY > out of calibration. I just had them rebuilt by a professional, the fuel > pressure is 3 PSI. As I run the car the pistons move up and down continuously. > Can anyone give advice on what to do? First thing I would do is check for oil in the dampers. Second would be dry/wet compression test. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffwhall@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 19:48:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F27F258560D for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 19:48:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E99C258053B for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 19:19:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aac01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aac01.mx.aol.com [172.27.2.35]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id C200E703C1BA9; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:23:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-lga05c.mail.aol.com (core-lga05.mail.aol.com [10.76.11.5]) by mtaomg-aac01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 717B138000088; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:23:09 -0400 (EDT) References: <1a04aec9.eeed0.1494f0240ad.Webtop.47@charter.net> <8D1C03E72B36F43-12EC-18596@webmail-vm187.sysops.aol.com> <0DC0DEE9-3F27-4CE9-859C-C9928D91F4DD@me.com> To: sjanzen@me.com Received: from 63.227.139.186 by webmail-va148.sysops.aol.com (149.174.109.211) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:23:09 -0400 From: jeffwhall@aol.com Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:23:09 -0400 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1414459390; bh=x2axEndrGurWscHcsGRaJenW2nu8tOpLxgKAIzmV8Zw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RjwyCui8shJs1yiTAw1WOQdAFuKQYwpVJ8RKBpjah2tiG0EYFSB/YnuP8WmDDYduy /EmTFyapW4BaVJ7yQBQWqa9rvw7QTn6TS4imkOHsB7a9XdQJNHROaQFFXx+cem5/l9 Nvns/2vZnhU7Iaq5oG8u6PpkpvKJN2cFj8w6Wd50= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b0223544eeffd435f Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net No they were not. I thought it prudent to rebuild them based on their age. Jeffrey W. Hall -----Original Message----- From: Scott Janzen To: jeffwhall Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Sent: Mon, Oct 27, 2014 3:30 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning were they mis-behaving before they were rebuilt? On Oct 27, 2014, at 4:48 PM, jeffwhall@aol.com wrote: I have a major tuning challenge on my 1971 GT6. The Stromberg carbs are WAY out of calibration. I just had them rebuilt by a professional, the fuel pressure is 3 PSI. As I run the car the pistons move up and down continuously. Can anyone give advice on what to do? Jeffrey W. Hall -----Original Message----- From: Diesel Performance Parts - Info To: 'damys@charter.net' Cc: 'fot@autox.team.net' Sent: Mon, Oct 27, 2014 11:34 am Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 transmission Dave & Alex, Taylor Race in Texas can set you up with a Quaife dog ring box that bolts in and should last as long as you do. Ratios are available in anything you want too. More than 3400.00 but less than driving 8 hours to race and only making one session. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, INC. 411 Allied Drive Nashville, TN 37211 866-455-7788 Phone 615-834-9923 Fax www.dieselperformanceparts.com -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of damys@charter.net Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 7:30 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] GT6 transmission Looking for advice on a transmission upgrade for the GT6. I've spoken with Quantum Mechanics and they offer four options. Standard GT6 box, upgraded GT6 box with TR7 gears, a TR6 trans mod and the T9 option. My fear with the GT6 option is the constant rebuilding, although I understand it offers the best ratios. The best seems to be the T9, but $3400 is a lot especially considering the other costs of building a racecar from the ground up If the T9 is the best, would it be a sound move to go with a lower diff ratio to be able to utilize 5th gear, or stick with the 3.27:1. Thanks Dave and Alex _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/info@dieselperformanceparts.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffwhall@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 20:17:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E9E2585698 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 20:17:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f180.google.com (mail-ie0-f180.google.com [209.85.223.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7144E258562D for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 19:55:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f180.google.com with SMTP id at20so5695551iec.39 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 18:58:32 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:reply-to:references:in-reply-to :sensitivity:importance:subject:to:cc:from:date:content-type :mime-version; bh=smjGDgr+bc4AP66A5mYz3QNxVNTNhB/h3NaC5D3JV8Y=; b=W8o/+AG55rmlWWrmeHvlqw29ACJZagmdr9mTTxz0nkQZ3Vi5Dadcuz783H6vTYjqiR W+wZNCgfVKu8g7MdEaydVnoljs9XQQ4RE5w7ZjuA2BWl0rG3S0F2MVKRrz5VT2NHv6eN NWhY+NYWz2nrtGdH+MwRIr+5kQ2jvd/Vn3uC7VUZEEb9oB73O27+ALwP71Wt66XlSKSa 2Rkr2f1eHEiNptiHtYJ0kRo5AcVNYcunictkumFSflqrCq+gAadu4eDbVIyIb2PNbZ8x XnxL8kNGZmLOf3KCQhDgRrk0euiwdfknjD6angmk3I1TovgSSamuLXDNz7Htdlc0e3dn 6qAg== kd8mr1139849igb.3.1414461512367; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 18:58:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.190 (bda-74-82-80-161.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.161]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ki5sm6841886igb.2.2014.10.27.18.58.31 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 27 Oct 2014 18:58:31 -0700 (PDT) References: <1a04aec9.eeed0.1494f0240ad.Webtop.47@charter.net> <8D1C03E72B36F43-12EC-18596@webmail-vm187.sysops.aol.com> <544EBF9D.5070008@gmail.com> ,<20141027230138.789C72585281@autox.team.net> <8D1C06443C0204D-534-1CCBC@webmail-va148.sysops.aol.com> Sensitivity: Normal To: jeffwhall@aol.com,jhasty@mhc-law.com From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 01:58:29 +0000 Cc: fot-bounces@autox.team.net, Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net What kind of fuel pump? Check all the all the throttle and idle adjustments, there is a certain sequence to setting up the idle and doing the initial setup of several intermingling parts. Did your guy set that all up for the GT6? I don't have the factory manual in front of me but there is all kinds of specific turns out to start at like three turns out for one screw and theres all sorts of sequences for setting various stuff that have to do with the throttle stop screw? Did you follow that when you put them back on? Some stuff is done cold and some is while hot and then you twist it in to a certain rpm. I'd try to do that whole set procedure by the book. But perhaps you already did that? If not, let me know if you need the guide.. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: jeffwhall@aol.com Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:18:50 To: ; Cc: ; Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning 20 weight oil check, pistons fall evenly and click check, All emissions controls holes blocked? Check, camshaft timing, > ignition timing, valve adjustments, etc? engine was rebuilt and timing advanced. Jeffrey W. Hall -----Original Message----- From: John Hasty To: Cc: Fot ; Fot Sent: Mon, Oct 27, 2014 6:49 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning Gee whiz, was it really 27? We felt put upon at 59 in Savannah, actually had to put on a long sleeve shirt. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 27, 2014, at 7:04 PM, "jason@multivintage.com" wrote: > > What happens when you hold the pistons up and let them fall? They shoul both fall evenly and all the way down and click when it falls to the bottom? This simple check can eliminate several possible problems. > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: Duncan Charlton > Sender: "Fot" Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:56:45 > To: > Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning > > 20 weight oil in the dampers? Damper pistons have intact rings? Damper > covers screwed down evenly? All emissions controls holes blocked? No > other coincidental changes to the engine such as camshaft timing, > ignition timing, valve adjustments, etc? I have one SU on a TR street > engine that does this slightly, so I'm hoping we'll hear a few more ideas. > > Duncan > (Texas) > >> On 10/27/14, 3:48 PM, jeffwhall@aol.com wrote: >> I have a major tuning challenge on my 1971 GT6. The Stromberg carbs are WAY >> out of calibration. I just had them rebuilt by a professional, the fuel >> pressure is 3 PSI. As I run the car the pistons move up and down continuously. >> Can anyone give advice on what to do? >> >> Jeffrey W. Hall >> >> >> -----Original >> Message----- >> From: Diesel Performance Parts - Info >> >> To: 'damys@charter.net' >> Cc: 'fot@autox.team.net' >> Sent: Mon, Oct 27, 2014 11:34 am >> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 transmission >> >> >> Dave & Alex, >> >> Taylor Race in Texas can >> set you up with a Quaife dog ring box that bolts in >> and should last as long as >> you do. Ratios are available in anything you want >> too. More than 3400.00 but >> less than driving 8 hours to race and only making >> one session. >> >> Mark Craig >> Diesel Performance Parts, INC. >> 411 Allied Drive >> Nashville, TN 37211 >> 866-455-7788 Phone >> 615-834-9923 Fax >> >> www.dieselperformanceparts.com >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On >> Behalf Of damys@charter.net >> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 7:30 PM >> To: >> fot@autox.team.net >> Subject: [Fot] GT6 transmission >> >> Looking for advice on a >> transmission upgrade for the GT6. I've spoken with >> Quantum Mechanics and they >> offer four options. Standard GT6 box, upgraded GT6 >> box with TR7 gears, a TR6 >> trans mod and the T9 option. My fear with the GT6 >> option is the constant >> rebuilding, although I understand it offers the best >> ratios. The best seems >> to be the T9, but >> $3400 is a lot especially considering the other costs of >> building a racecar >> from the ground up If the T9 is the best, would it be a >> sound move to go with >> a lower diff ratio to be able to utilize 5th gear, or >> stick with the 3.27:1. >> Thanks >> Dave and Alex >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: >> http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/info@dieselperformanceparts.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: >> http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffwhall@aol.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 28 07:19:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 008892584D0C for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 07:19:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B626925807BE for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 06:50:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::c167:89f3:ca7b:1966]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::c167:89f3:ca7b:1966%13]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 07:54:15 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: triumph friends Thread-Topic: TR6 Engine Core Thread-Index: AQHP8q5H3ggJXsns202I2t1kJn5xKQ== Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 12:54:14 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Cc: "emanteno@comcast.net" Subject: [Fot] TR6 Engine Core Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Good morning, Ibve received information about a TR6 engine core for sale in the Milwaukee area, in case anyone is interested. The price is b$50-$100b. Other information below, as well as a Craigbs List listing. http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/pts/4719801786.html I donbt have any other info on it at the moment. Scott From: Sam Seward [mailto:srseward@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 4:38 PM To: Barr, Scott Subject: Re: Triumph Block He just decided to use the second one for the core. I bought it as a running engine, but when he examined it, it was worn but not enough to preclude rebuilding. We didn't know the internal condition of the first one, so he decided to proceed. using that one. After getting the second one to the machine shop , he tore the first oneapart and found that it too was a good core. It will need boring and oversize crank bearings, but it's sound. The Milwaukee Craigslist ad is here and it tells exactly what's included: 1972 TR6 Engine Block, Head, Crankshaft, Etc 1972 TR6 Engine Block, Head, Crankshaft, Etc These are the major engine parts from my 72 TR6 engine. We're using a different engine for the core, but this one has no major damage and would be a good core for rebuilding. It was pulled because... View on milwaukee.craigslist.org Preview by Yahoo ________________________________ Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 12:59 PM Subject: RE: Triumph Block That would be something Sam should answer. Possibly. Whatbs wrong with the block that the mechanic is starting with a new one? Scott Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 12:53 PM To: Barr, Scott Subject: Fwd: Triumph Block In case you are interested. .. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Oct 27, 2014 12:46 PM Subject: Triumph Block Cc: My mechanic here is using a second block to build the new engine for my TR6, so I have a block, head, crank, etc from my 72 that someone else could use. Would you please pass this info on to the TR friends of yours that we've had dinner with before the Gearheads Movie. They may have some interest or know someone who does. They can feel free to pass my info on to other folks who might be interested. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 28 07:50:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB4552585AAF for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 07:50:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m04.mx.aol.com (omr-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8F525807AC for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 07:31:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aae02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aae02.mx.aol.com [172.27.1.100]) by omr-m04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 3D1D2702929C2; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:34:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-lga01b.mail.aol.com (core-lga01.mail.aol.com [10.76.11.1]) by mtaomg-aae02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id BB42238000081; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:34:55 -0400 (EDT) References: <1a04aec9.eeed0.1494f0240ad.Webtop.47@charter.net> <8D1C03E72B36F43-12EC-18596@webmail-vm187.sysops.aol.com> <544EBF9D.5070008@gmail.com> ,<20141027230138.789C72585281@autox.team.net> <8D1C06443C0204D-534-1CCBC@webmail-va148.sysops.aol.com> <824041650-1414461508-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1469587758-@b27.c3.bise6.blackberry> To: jason@multivintage.com, jhasty@mhc-law.com Received: from 199.127.132.170 by webmail-va132.sysops.aol.com (149.174.96.118) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:34:55 -0400 From: jeffwhall@aol.com Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:34:55 -0400 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1414503296; bh=kIxMYI7tBCO40xtjRIZiCUvxjJ1ZseHEKI4EAXYjBr8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qM1kXS/7JOphM6r9mNg86GNRncC/kt8HJyFMaWzJBupn4xdPwes30RUmAKUjPatet /Cjzb5g1jtNYtIayZMvNrju9r3rjny6W2efVn6z5XC/A0MesbDiPbSQDtLKpV1RswB iLt860xuiQetYxhsMnUYG58EkMvFsdftb/4416Io= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b0164544f9b7f2a45 Cc: fot-bounces@autox.team.net, fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Jason, I will go from scratch and "re-do" the items you suggest. Thanx, Jeffrey W. Hall -----Original Message----- From: jason To: jeffwhall ; jhasty Cc: fot-bounces ; Fot Sent: Mon, Oct 27, 2014 7:58 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning What kind of fuel pump? Check all the all the throttle and idle adjustments, there is a certain sequence to setting up the idle and doing the initial setup of several intermingling parts. Did your guy set that all up for the GT6? I don't have the factory manual in front of me but there is all kinds of specific turns out to start at like three turns out for one screw and theres all sorts of sequences for setting various stuff that have to do with the throttle stop screw? Did you follow that when you put them back on? Some stuff is done cold and some is while hot and then you twist it in to a certain rpm. I'd try to do that whole set procedure by the book. But perhaps you already did that? If not, let me know if you need the guide.. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From: jeffwhall@aol.com Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:18:50 -0400 To: ; Cc: ; Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning 20 weight oil check, pistons fall evenly and click check, All emissions controls holes blocked? Check, camshaft timing, > ignition timing, valve adjustments, etc? engine was rebuilt and timing advanced. Jeffrey W. Hall -----Original Message----- From: John Hasty To: Cc: Fot ; Fot Sent: Mon, Oct 27, 2014 6:49 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning Gee whiz, was it really 27? We felt put upon at 59 in Savannah, actually had to put on a long sleeve shirt. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 27, 2014, at 7:04 PM, "jason@multivintage.com" wrote: > > What happens when you hold the pistons up and let them fall? They shoul both fall evenly and all the way down and click when it falls to the bottom? This simple check can eliminate several possible problems. > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: Duncan Charlton > Sender: "Fot" Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:56:45 > To: > Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning > > 20 weight oil in the dampers? Damper pistons have intact rings? Damper > covers screwed down evenly? All emissions controls holes blocked? No > other coincidental changes to the engine such as camshaft timing, > ignition timing, valve adjustments, etc? I have one SU on a TR street > engine that does this slightly, so I'm hoping we'll hear a few more ideas. > > Duncan > (Texas) > >> On 10/27/14, 3:48 PM, jeffwhall@aol.com wrote: >> I have a major tuning challenge on my 1971 GT6. The Stromberg carbs are WAY >> out of calibration. I just had them rebuilt by a professional, the fuel >> pressure is 3 PSI. As I run the car the pistons move up and down continuously. >> Can anyone give advice on what to do? >> >> Jeffrey W. Hall >> >> >> -----Original >> Message----- >> From: Diesel Performance Parts - Info >> >> To: 'damys@charter.net' >> Cc: 'fot@autox.team.net' >> Sent: Mon, Oct 27, 2014 11:34 am >> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 transmission >> >> >> Dave & Alex, >> >> Taylor Race in Texas can >> set you up with a Quaife dog ring box that bolts in >> and should last as long as >> you do. Ratios are available in anything you want >> too. More than 3400.00 but >> less than driving 8 hours to race and only making >> one session. >> >> Mark Craig >> Diesel Performance Parts, INC. >> 411 Allied Drive >> Nashville, TN 37211 >> 866-455-7788 Phone >> 615-834-9923 Fax >> >> www.dieselperformanceparts.com >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On >> Behalf Of damys@charter.net >> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 7:30 PM >> To: >> fot@autox.team.net >> Subject: [Fot] GT6 transmission >> >> Looking for advice on a >> transmission upgrade for the GT6. I've spoken with >> Quantum Mechanics and they >> offer four options. Standard GT6 box, upgraded GT6 >> box with TR7 gears, a TR6 >> trans mod and the T9 option. My fear with the GT6 >> option is the constant >> rebuilding, although I understand it offers the best >> ratios. The best seems >> to be the T9, but >> $3400 is a lot especially considering the other costs of >> building a racecar >> from the ground up If the T9 is the best, would it be a >> sound move to go with >> a lower diff ratio to be able to utilize 5th gear, or >> stick with the 3.27:1. >> Thanks >> Dave and Alex >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: >> Archive: >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/info@dieselperformanceparts.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: >> http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffwhall@aol.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffwhall@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 28 08:06:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C192585AB1 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 08:06:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f182.google.com (mail-qc0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0FFD25807AC for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 07:39:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id m20so509509qcx.13 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 06:42:57 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=vVFGLcWjV5Qjoq2AKk/8Lq/VhWA8nh7Y1tstRhf8CEs=; b=Grg2R0Ikh/MxlWAAVQ33Am9S7gBZF4Tt7Gy24XJmadtLkYE4LD3mNaGOneOjgOgPi+ QaqRKe1zDLk2Y+Y4eIAa85rdKpok19Bm8zqACdEeebaAh/OuyI4w7ubGKD3yzRljYO9E taoiCBZgDpDAS75zMB1fRvuQECOfHyRKIxA0+Kjsz6caMVyFSJb/n1YUQd/i3dAee6bH wqcKPNICAYVMygJgiAhg4SqFyIFdJyHfkFg1gDBzUAawQTbIgv/8HvIe1ikpm7AZUP06 2yuzSWKC1WxKhPQ5DWKX2FpMety2GOm+HnyGMgN2yTzgZUyRx8XUZD0Rucf0ZQIRFxOB N/+A== mx4mr5246796qcb.4.1414503777318; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 06:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.39.71 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 06:42:57 -0700 (PDT) References: <1a04aec9.eeed0.1494f0240ad.Webtop.47@charter.net> <8D1C03E72B36F43-12EC-18596@webmail-vm187.sysops.aol.com> <544EBF9D.5070008@gmail.com> <20141027230138.789C72585281@autox.team.net> <8D1C06443C0204D-534-1CCBC@webmail-va148.sysops.aol.com> <824041650-1414461508-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1469587758-@b27.c3.bise6.blackberry> <8D1C0CB185A9AD2-15B4-1F6DB@webmail-va132.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 08:42:57 -0500 From: Jason Ostrowski To: jeffwhall@aol.com Cc: fot-bounces@autox.team.net, fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It would also be good to start with 2psi fuel pressure. Typically, a the closer range is between 1 1/2 to 2 1/2. We run 2 psi and it is most likely that 3 is too much. good luck. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 8:34 AM, wrote: > Jason, > > I will go from scratch and "re-do" the items you suggest. > > Thanx, > > Jeffrey W. Hall > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jason > To: jeffwhall ; jhasty > Cc: fot-bounces ; Fot > Sent: Mon, Oct 27, 2014 7:58 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning > > What kind of fuel pump? Check all the all the throttle and idle > adjustments, there is a certain sequence to setting up the idle and doing > the initial setup of several intermingling parts. Did your guy set that all > up for the GT6? I don't have the factory manual in front of me but there is > all kinds of specific turns out to start at like three turns out for one > screw and theres all sorts of sequences for setting various stuff that have > to do with the throttle stop screw? Did you follow that when you put them > back on? Some stuff is done cold and some is while hot and then you twist > it in to a certain rpm. I'd try to do that whole set procedure by the book. > But perhaps you already did that? If not, let me know if you need the > guide.. > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > ------------------------------ > *From: *jeffwhall@aol.com > *Date: *Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:18:50 -0400 > *To: *; > *Cc: *; > *Subject: *Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning > > 20 weight oil check, pistons fall evenly and click check, All emissions > controls holes blocked? Check, camshaft timing, > > ignition timing, valve adjustments, etc? engine was rebuilt and timing > advanced. > > Jeffrey W. Hall > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Hasty > To: > Cc: Fot ; Fot > Sent: Mon, Oct 27, 2014 6:49 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning > > Gee whiz, was it really 27? We felt put upon at 59 in Savannah, actually had > to put on a long sleeve shirt. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 27, 2014, at 7:04 PM, "jason@multivintage.com" > wrote: > > > > What happens when you hold the pistons up and let them fall? They shoul both > fall evenly and all the way down and click when it falls to the bottom? This > simple check can eliminate several possible problems. > > Jason Ostrowski > > Friendly Ghost Racing > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Duncan Charlton > > Sender: "Fot" Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:56:45 > > To: > > Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning > > > > 20 weight oil in the dampers? Damper pistons have intact rings? Damper > > covers screwed down evenly? All emissions controls holes blocked? No > > other coincidental changes to the engine such as camshaft timing, > > ignition timing, valve adjustments, etc? I have one SU on a TR street > > engine that does this slightly, so I'm hoping we'll hear a few more ideas. > > > > Duncan > > (Texas) > > > >> On 10/27/14, 3:48 PM, jeffwhall@aol.com wrote: > >> I have a major tuning challenge on my 1971 GT6. The Stromberg carbs are > WAY > >> out of calibration. I just had them rebuilt by a professional, the fuel > >> pressure is 3 PSI. As I run the car the pistons move up and down > continuously. > >> Can anyone give advice on what to do? > >> > >> Jeffrey W. Hall > >> > >> > >> -----Original > >> Message----- > >> From: Diesel Performance Parts - Info > >> > >> To: 'damys@charter.net' > >> Cc: 'fot@autox.team.net' > >> Sent: Mon, Oct 27, 2014 11:34 am > >> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 transmission > >> > >> > >> Dave & Alex, > >> > >> Taylor Race in Texas can > >> set you up with a Quaife dog ring box that bolts in > >> and should last as long as > >> you do. Ratios are available in anything you want > >> too. More than 3400.00 but > >> less than driving 8 hours to race and only making > >> one session. > >> > >> Mark Craig > >> Diesel Performance Parts, INC. > >> 411 Allied Drive > >> Nashville, TN 37211 > >> 866-455-7788 Phone > >> 615-834-9923 Fax > >> > >> www.dieselperformanceparts.com > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > >> Behalf Of damys@charter.net > >> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 7:30 PM > >> To: > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> Subject: [Fot] GT6 transmission > >> > >> Looking for advice on a > >> transmission upgrade for the GT6. I've spoken with > >> Quantum Mechanics and they > >> offer four options. Standard GT6 box, upgraded GT6 > >> box with TR7 gears, a TR6 > >> trans mod and the T9 option. My fear with the GT6 > >> option is the constant > >> rebuilding, although I understand it offers the best > >> ratios. The best seems > >> to be the T9, but > >> $3400 is a lot especially considering the other costs of > >> building a racecar > >> from the ground up If the T9 is the best, would it be a > >> sound move to go with > >> a lower diff ratio to be able to utilize 5th gear, or > >> stick with the 3.27:1. > >> Thanks > >> Dave and Alex > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: > >> http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/info@dieselperformanceparts.com > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: > >> http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffwhall@aol.com > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com > _______________________________________________fot@autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffwhall@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 28 09:18:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 233292585AD8 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:18:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E95C258082B for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 08:49:52 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge03 smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [166.176.122.5] ([166.176.122.5:18652] helo=[10.72.196.16]) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id DB/2A-11413-9DDAF445; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 14:53:14 +0000 References: From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:53:09 -0500 To: "" Cc: Scott Booth Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Triumph GT6 Race Car, SCCA, lots of parts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone know this car? Gotta a buddy I am trying to corrupt. Begin forwarded message: > From: "Blake, Gregory S" > Date: October 28, 2014 at 9:50:00 AM CDT > To: Greg and Alison Blake > Subject: Triumph GT6 Race Car, SCCA, lots of parts > > > http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/cto/4711892956.html > > > > > This email and any attached files are confidential and copyright protected. If you are not the addressee, any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. Unless otherwise expressly agreed in writing, nothing stated in this communication shall be legally binding. > > The ultimate parent company of the Atkins Group is WS Atkins plc. Registered in England No. 1885586. Registered Office Woodcote Grove, Ashley Road, Epsom, Surrey KT18 5BW. A list of wholly owned Atkins Group companies registered in the United Kingdom and locations around the world can be found at http://www.atkinsglobal.com/site-services/group-company-registration-details > > Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 28 10:18:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8383F2584D54 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 10:18:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SNT004-OMC2S12.hotmail.com (snt004-omc2s12.hotmail.com [65.55.90.87]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DDA22584D0D for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:59:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT407-EAS360 ([65.55.90.71]) by SNT004-OMC2S12.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:02:29 -0700 References: <93DFF27A-0069-4114-9CD6-20373FED0403@austin.rr.com> From: D V Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 12:02:27 -0400 To: Greg And Alison Blake FILETIME=[92FA6C60:01CFF2C8] Cc: Scott Booth , "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Triumph GT6 Race Car, SCCA, lots of parts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I talked to the guy and it has a fiberglass hood and the rear quarters have been cut for fiberglass wheel flares. Motor is in pieces. Not too far from me if you need someone to check it out. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:22 AM, "Greg And Alison Blake" wrote: > Anyone know this car? Gotta a buddy I am trying to corrupt. > > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: "Blake, Gregory S" >> Date: October 28, 2014 at 9:50:00 AM CDT >> To: Greg and Alison Blake >> Subject: Triumph GT6 Race Car, SCCA, lots of parts >> >> >> http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/cto/4711892956.html >> >> >> >> >> This email and any attached files are confidential and copyright protected. > If you are not the addressee, any dissemination of this communication is > strictly prohibited. Unless otherwise expressly agreed in writing, nothing > stated in this communication shall be legally binding. >> >> The ultimate parent company of the Atkins Group is WS Atkins plc. Registered > in England No. 1885586. Registered Office Woodcote Grove, Ashley Road, Epsom, > Surrey KT18 5BW. A list of wholly owned Atkins Group companies registered in > the United Kingdom and locations around the world can be found at > http://www.atkinsglobal.com/site-services/group-company-registration-details >> >> Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really > need to. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/explore8@outlook.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 28 10:34:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC442584DC8 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 10:34:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f44.google.com (mail-qa0-f44.google.com [209.85.216.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9EF25844B8 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 10:13:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id w8so700170qac.31 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:17:17 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=iGXb4s4MKjKSViU7WFhvhmb4sIUssmP2BD6Ed/MHhwc=; b=JdNlpvgW5akY81bMMZ5MTfODbRlaX58tEX7XBxGs+s/+5eLypER5QzqmabsIgHQv2F R2jZAHF77x+uruAtjShh0S+wTKS6uthqyHBZ53YUQ5zPLQtR3Q6vIn4J+SEtWqbN2hDd mYOgNCEaiEcJoD+EfwWsMbtqJnx5e0OaxDVnwtjPeHFusTernkfBvSipMYYrx4h22EBz plISoI2BRkfuHAUVdoE+iZQWleEgJpCWNAAOf3G3bq1zooUTgDN5ucrF3eriWtVkvERT AsN1WHDgT1sT+8eMlDWztfMFIACgnEj8hoW841BmuUHpGUBdC6wxV/71PBUodyBDQVu7 24CQ== m79mr6145423qgm.81.1414513036865; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.39.71 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:17:16 -0700 (PDT) References: <93DFF27A-0069-4114-9CD6-20373FED0403@austin.rr.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 11:17:16 -0500 From: Jason Ostrowski To: Greg And Alison Blake Cc: Scott Booth , "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Triumph GT6 Race Car, SCCA, lots of parts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Good news and bad news. What is there looks pretty stout an well done. And it seems to have some pretty advanced developement and trick custom stuff. as well as lots of decent parts. but there's lots of stuff missing that is going to turn in to lots of $ and lots of work for a guy you are trying to corrupt. Its a great looking project if he's got some deep pockets to get it up to snuff. It is listed as "vintage" and EP. But for your CVAR group there's many things that go way beyond vintage regs. This is a good car for a someone that wants to go crazy with some more modern developement. That being said, I like it. but its well on its way to being an SCCA car where but it's a long way off from being (and) it will cost lots to become competitive. So its neat and a cool "super production" but not exactly an entry level project in my opinion. and presently I don't see a great place for this to run. I would love to have it in my garage but its on its way towards a pretty advanced classification that is ready for more expensive steroids. If you want you buddy to enjoy the hobby of race car driving quickly, this is probably not the car for him. Thanks for pointing it out. Now here Again, I wish I had a million dollars. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Greg And Alison Blake < ablake2@austin.rr.com> wrote: > Anyone know this car? Gotta a buddy I am trying to corrupt. > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: "Blake, Gregory S" > > Date: October 28, 2014 at 9:50:00 AM CDT > > To: Greg and Alison Blake > > Subject: Triumph GT6 Race Car, SCCA, lots of parts > > > > > > http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/cto/4711892956.html > > > > > > > > > > This email and any attached files are confidential and copyright > protected. > If you are not the addressee, any dissemination of this communication is > strictly prohibited. Unless otherwise expressly agreed in writing, nothing > stated in this communication shall be legally binding. > > > > The ultimate parent company of the Atkins Group is WS Atkins plc. > Registered > in England No. 1885586. Registered Office Woodcote Grove, Ashley Road, > Epsom, > Surrey KT18 5BW. A list of wholly owned Atkins Group companies registered > in > the United Kingdom and locations around the world can be found at > > http://www.atkinsglobal.com/site-services/group-company-registration-details > > > > Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you > really > need to. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 28 11:48:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6758C258493B for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 11:48:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3FE2580414 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 11:36:47 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge01 smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [166.176.122.5] ([166.176.122.5:16559] helo=[10.72.196.16]) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 7A/2E-22613-5F4DF445; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 17:40:09 +0000 References: <93DFF27A-0069-4114-9CD6-20373FED0403@austin.rr.com> From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 12:40:04 -0500 To: Jason Ostrowski Cc: Scott Booth , "" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Triumph GT6 Race Car, SCCA, lots of parts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Kind of what I was thinking but I don't know too much about GT6s. Thanks for the feedback. > On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:17 AM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > > Good news and bad news. What is there looks pretty stout an well done. And it seems to have some pretty advanced developement and trick custom stuff. as well as lots of decent parts. but there's lots of stuff missing that is going to turn in to lots of $ and lots of work for a guy you are trying to corrupt. > Its a great looking project if he's got some deep pockets to get it up to snuff. It is listed as "vintage" and EP. But for your CVAR group there's many things that go way beyond vintage regs. This is a good car for a someone that wants to go crazy with some more modern developement. That being said, I like it. but its well on its way to being an SCCA car where but it's a long way off from being (and) it will cost lots to become competitive. So its neat and a cool "super production" but not exactly an entry level project in my opinion. and presently I don't see a great place for this to run. I would love to have it in my garage but its on its way towards a pretty advanced classification that is ready for more expensive steroids. > If you want you buddy to enjoy the hobby of race car driving quickly, this is probably not the car for him. > Thanks for pointing it out. > Now here Again, I wish I had a million dollars. > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing >> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: >> Anyone know this car? Gotta a buddy I am trying to corrupt. >> >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> > From: "Blake, Gregory S" >> > Date: October 28, 2014 at 9:50:00 AM CDT >> > To: Greg and Alison Blake >> > Subject: Triumph GT6 Race Car, SCCA, lots of parts >> > >> > >> > http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/cto/4711892956.html >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > This email and any attached files are confidential and copyright protected. >> If you are not the addressee, any dissemination of this communication is >> strictly prohibited. Unless otherwise expressly agreed in writing, nothing >> stated in this communication shall be legally binding. >> > >> > The ultimate parent company of the Atkins Group is WS Atkins plc. Registered >> in England No. 1885586. Registered Office Woodcote Grove, Ashley Road, Epsom, >> Surrey KT18 5BW. A list of wholly owned Atkins Group companies registered in >> the United Kingdom and locations around the world can be found at >> http://www.atkinsglobal.com/site-services/group-company-registration-details >> > >> > Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really >> need to. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 28 17:17:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE5025843DB for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 17:17:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.centurylink.net (mail.centurylink.net [205.219.233.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809CB258076E for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 17:11:10 -0600 (MDT) c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1414538071; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=Yg2peCvDO7R2htM0EgGjlkLXjEA=; b=nQ/FFJ2XZF+TmlNpzJjHrobKWBZwHa3ht8qbStibBjMDfRPaLXoJAkaBPaLXtynE DlYD7QbDlvInowKgVOAnbutZpt9LmXgBZ3Zs7zk/dwUUf4RDKitbjBOl6V0SQX6C B+wkhj6DSZfg3/ihcLMksc1jgwPkEQc8rWVMEwfqVXc+ORMtZB4HsVwK/ftgVWND 3ttW44Fnr2l8KeFKXlwGcoxzg72ucH2RH2DaPJ2ts1K5WmlT6nqtPcVUC8Uuqq6Q gFqlJ48qMPI0AKWbhhx3O1aAiwTJFbd5pEQB5i/JxQ00QrSqrGWZ3lztUYjVmYVr QUlzimHn/R6HSqB+ogMVGg==; X_CMAE_Category: , , a=umP0lFALt94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=e66q1VIsAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=YJpJSCWC-hyiPRAwj_wA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=MVDrLQDD3NUA:10 a=B6OhLMug29UA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=yTcOSzJjhyoA:10 a=oou0j9ops7xWRTqj:21 a=VDcQUneAV6yZz3YK:21 a=859NpK6DnAJZxRCH8ipABg==:117 Received: from [10.40.66.2] ([10.40.66.2:56460] helo=md39.agate.dfw.synacor.com) by smtp.centurylink.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.1.37854 r(Momo-dev:3.5.1.0)) with ESMTP id B2/66-10050-75320545; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 19:14:31 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 19:14:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "William T newman " To: John Hasty Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] HSR Savannah Classic Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici: I was the second half of the FOT effort at Savannah last weekend. Being a member of HSR off and on since 2007, I agree with most of John Hasty's e-mail. I don't think that HSR is biased against truly vintage cars, they want and can find a class for anyone that is willing to pay the money for entry. Therefore there were a few Spec Miata's and a 2002 Acura entered. HSR was mostly a high dollars Porsche group for awhile, but under the new ownership, I have seen some changes for the better. As far as negatives for this race weekend, HSR overbooked the paddock and put vendors in racecar space. They also combined our Groups 2 & 3 which put too many cars on a short track. I am told that the corner workers were the maintenance people from the golf course and they were given some training, but one corner station had a guy wearing a RED shirt and considering the number of cars on the track, I never saw a overtake flag. As far as my weekend went, the Spitfire Sebring/LeMans coupe lost 3rd gear during the first practice. The bolt that holds the shift lever to the linkage sheared during the second practice. I started the Saturday Race dead last using 4th gear and an occasional 2nd, but still finished third in a four car class due to the expiration of a Bugeye. I received a ribbon and medallion for the effort, but it was the most disappointing race I have ever experienced. Despite all the problems, I will probably go back next year because, as John mentioned, the social events, weather, and Downtown Savanna nightlife are terrific. Bill Newman 1964 Spitfire Coupe 1971 GT6 ----- Original Message ----- From: John Hasty To: Friends of Triumph Sent: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 11:32:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Fot] HSR Savannah Classic This was my first time at the Hutchinson Island track which was built in 1997 or so for Indy cars and was used only once. Since then it has been rarely used and this HSR event is currently the only race the track is used for. We arrived late Thursday and registration was easy and considerate. Tech was as well as they accepted my annual from VDCA , something that SVRA won't do. There were two practice sessions on Friday both on time. I really like the track. Good grip. No time to relax, you are turning, shifting, braking ect. Every second of a lap and the bowl shaped turn 1 and 2 complex is a religious experience. Ceasar, Shey, Mark and Myself all liked the track. Friday night there was a reception at the Westin resort overlooking the Savannah harbor with free drinks, snacks and a kicking good country Rock band. Saturday had one practice/qualifying session and the first race. I chased two Alfas the whole race and never could pass them. The fast cars (TransAm, Chevrons etc) were in the 1:20 range, I was 1:39. Saturday night there was a shin dig held on the lawn adjacent to the spectator/vendor area overlooking turns 2,3,4&5. Free beer/wine, chicken fingers, wings, Quesada's and a rock band. There was a good number of spectators on Sat. and Sun. as well as many vendors, car mfg. car show, and even an airplane vendor. How they managed to fly that thing in there is a mystery to me. Sunday, our group race was at 10:00am, I passed one of the Alfas, caught the next one and a double yellow came out and the race finished under it. The only negative thing about the event was HSR's obvious bias against truly vintage cars. Our run group, for instance, contained 52 cars that ranged from bug eye sprites to GT 350's, 914/6's, Miata Spec Racers. RX7's, Acuras', and assorted sports racers. But, the track and the social events out weigh this in my opinion, I'll go again..... John H. Hasty | MULLEN HOLLAND & COOPER P.A. Attorney at Law 301 South York Street (zip: 28052) P.O. Box 488 Gastonia, NC 28053-0488 Telephone: 704.864.6751 | Facsimile: 704.861.8394 JHasty@mhc-law.com | www.mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 29 00:43:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1300B25845B6 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 00:43:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3384A258074B for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 00:40:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.105]) by resqmta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 8ukJ1p0012GyhjZ01ukJWg; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 06:44:18 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:2601:1:9700:3a6:941d:edfe:d282:f927] ([IPv6:2601:1:9700:3a6:941d:edfe:d282:f927]) by resomta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 8ukG1p00G55nRLW01ukHh9; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 06:44:18 +0000 From: Bud R Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 00:44:15 -0600 References: <1a04aec9.eeed0.1494f0240ad.Webtop.47@charter.net> <8D1C03E72B36F43-12EC-18596@webmail-vm187.sysops.aol.com> <544EBF9D.5070008@gmail.com> <20141027230138.789C72585281@autox.team.net> <8D1C06443C0204D-534-1CCBC@webmail-va148.sysops.aol.com> <824041650-1414461508-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1469587758-@b27.c3.bise6.blackberry> <8D1C0CB185A9AD2-15B4-1F6DB@webmail-va132.sysops.aol.com> To: Jason Ostrowski s=q20140121; t=1414565058; bh=4DfLlz1PDOZT+N4y2hksQi0tUOxhGArMLD/PYTB51ok=; h=Received:Received:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From:Date: Message-Id:To; b=K5Tnvma88svhSrWluO6s+jLXBFNyFWOV9cKZQeEnmQvfu1pm2igliL5beSb2siuVC 8v2a+v0Zn6j2svJjcKUOVIyHs+zbO9T8MhbhBGtajSlFKObNk5iffIvVkexIzYqMci LKyvzVzo6DP5+rgBdhZbljezqKLuDbeDO6HUpie9bv1MYbx+q+s68Sw1RjkN/KRlIE /EuA0rs2Skwuy7oPshH/dGGS3hTIDHI9OsnneRGLKEHdxUQwKtmNKhwAAsXE60JNmI kS0T+pb/ewO38xRNu3XR4gbU6GFALsrn96t+P5iymEYPd42fP6/N4QlD94AiG65A7G RM7539e9Q8CWw== Cc: fot-bounces@autox.team.net, fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ill second that. I would make sure the fuel pressure at the carbs is 1 1/2- 2 psi. ZS carbs do not like higher fuel pressure than that and will miss every time a little too much fuel gets pushed past the float needle valves. In fact it would be the first thing Id correct because all the tuning and replacing parts wont fix too high of fuel pressure. I chased my tail for longer than Id like to admit before I figured out high fuel pressure was causing a miss on my 6. Put a fuel pressure regulator on and test your pressure with a vacuum gage to get it right, then do all the other things that have been suggested by the list. Dont trust the numbers on the fuel pressure regulator they are not accurate. Use a vacuum gage to set it. Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Oct 28, 2014, at 7:42 AM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > It would also be good to start with 2psi fuel pressure. Typically, a the > closer range is between 1 1/2 to 2 1/2. We run 2 psi and it is most likely > that 3 is too much. > good luck. > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 8:34 AM, wrote: > >> Jason, >> >> I will go from scratch and "re-do" the items you suggest. >> >> Thanx, >> >> Jeffrey W. Hall >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: jason >> To: jeffwhall ; jhasty >> Cc: fot-bounces ; Fot >> Sent: Mon, Oct 27, 2014 7:58 pm >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning >> >> What kind of fuel pump? Check all the all the throttle and idle >> adjustments, there is a certain sequence to setting up the idle and doing >> the initial setup of several intermingling parts. Did your guy set that all >> up for the GT6? I don't have the factory manual in front of me but there is >> all kinds of specific turns out to start at like three turns out for one >> screw and theres all sorts of sequences for setting various stuff that have >> to do with the throttle stop screw? Did you follow that when you put them >> back on? Some stuff is done cold and some is while hot and then you twist >> it in to a certain rpm. I'd try to do that whole set procedure by the book. >> But perhaps you already did that? If not, let me know if you need the >> guide.. >> Jason Ostrowski >> Friendly Ghost Racing >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *jeffwhall@aol.com >> *Date: *Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:18:50 -0400 >> *To: *; >> *Cc: *; >> *Subject: *Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning >> >> 20 weight oil check, pistons fall evenly and click check, All emissions >> controls holes blocked? Check, camshaft timing, >>> ignition timing, valve adjustments, etc? engine was rebuilt and timing >> advanced. >> >> Jeffrey W. Hall >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Hasty >> To: >> Cc: Fot ; Fot >> Sent: Mon, Oct 27, 2014 6:49 pm >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning >> >> Gee whiz, was it really 27? We felt put upon at 59 in Savannah, actually had >> to put on a long sleeve shirt. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 27, 2014, at 7:04 PM, "jason@multivintage.com" >> wrote: >>> >>> What happens when you hold the pistons up and let them fall? They shoul both >> fall evenly and all the way down and click when it falls to the bottom? This >> simple check can eliminate several possible problems. >>> Jason Ostrowski >>> Friendly Ghost Racing >>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Duncan Charlton >>> Sender: "Fot" Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:56:45 >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning >>> >>> 20 weight oil in the dampers? Damper pistons have intact rings? Damper >>> covers screwed down evenly? All emissions controls holes blocked? No >>> other coincidental changes to the engine such as camshaft timing, >>> ignition timing, valve adjustments, etc? I have one SU on a TR street >>> engine that does this slightly, so I'm hoping we'll hear a few more ideas. >>> >>> Duncan >>> (Texas) >>> >>>> On 10/27/14, 3:48 PM, jeffwhall@aol.com wrote: >>>> I have a major tuning challenge on my 1971 GT6. The Stromberg carbs are >> WAY >>>> out of calibration. I just had them rebuilt by a professional, the fuel >>>> pressure is 3 PSI. As I run the car the pistons move up and down >> continuously. >>>> Can anyone give advice on what to do? >>>> >>>> Jeffrey W. Hall >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original >>>> Message----- >>>> From: Diesel Performance Parts - Info >>>> >>>> To: 'damys@charter.net' >>>> Cc: 'fot@autox.team.net' >>>> Sent: Mon, Oct 27, 2014 11:34 am >>>> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 transmission >>>> >>>> >>>> Dave & Alex, >>>> >>>> Taylor Race in Texas can >>>> set you up with a Quaife dog ring box that bolts in >>>> and should last as long as >>>> you do. Ratios are available in anything you want >>>> too. More than 3400.00 but >>>> less than driving 8 hours to race and only making >>>> one session. >>>> >>>> Mark Craig >>>> Diesel Performance Parts, INC. >>>> 411 Allied Drive >>>> Nashville, TN 37211 >>>> 866-455-7788 Phone >>>> 615-834-9923 Fax >>>> >>>> www.dieselperformanceparts.com >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On >>>> Behalf Of damys@charter.net >>>> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 7:30 PM >>>> To: >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> Subject: [Fot] GT6 transmission >>>> >>>> Looking for advice on a >>>> transmission upgrade for the GT6. I've spoken with >>>> Quantum Mechanics and they >>>> offer four options. Standard GT6 box, upgraded GT6 >>>> box with TR7 gears, a TR6 >>>> trans mod and the T9 option. My fear with the GT6 >>>> option is the constant >>>> rebuilding, although I understand it offers the best >>>> ratios. The best seems >>>> to be the T9, but >>>> $3400 is a lot especially considering the other costs of >>>> building a racecar >>>> from the ground up If the T9 is the best, would it be a >>>> sound move to go with >>>> a lower diff ratio to be able to utilize 5th gear, or >>>> stick with the 3.27:1. >>>> Thanks >>>> Dave and Alex >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: >>>> http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/info@dieselperformanceparts.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: >>>> http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffwhall@aol.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> 4@gmail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> ge.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> om >> _______________________________________________fot@autox.team.net >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeffwhall@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 29 07:09:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 821D4258476D for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 07:09:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f45.google.com (mail-pa0-f45.google.com [209.85.220.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 072E02580918; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 07:08:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id lf10so3153146pab.32 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 06:11:55 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=HArOqXCTE7VsF479fkTDNn2FiG2pJh5g8TT4O0Vlh1s=; b=e7YcgRHdAqn3ilSlyEgQsnQg3n9Co65drRhdIQh3yJyK2o0wKPLWJauLoy5cCmrnUZ vwz+XMwzKB1v84h/9RWQj7gmTv1ZPudj7dNXttkfeTyw0h6MmIAzGbiSauI8D5LTT9rU AZPwx+LLyqqTo/wEHP+dCcHPV/gqXtif2ZxTybaBf7FQTUgm4HoiS8cNBmHbnuD4TF/a s6O36el0gDjzIgmsqpORgdhGaSU+JAn9rcbYN4GK+4DD8cWAd0IM+2pf3uPJNtEwMxDQ d6sNdM1K2tXig8ZMhhgxV3SzxvnVYyLsLyHH+JKMEtd4hmu4/wnHBrslhWx1PUumH9p3 r53w== x8mr10307788pdl.107.1414588315294; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 06:11:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.24.65 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 06:11:55 -0700 (PDT) References: <1a04aec9.eeed0.1494f0240ad.Webtop.47@charter.net> <8D1C03E72B36F43-12EC-18596@webmail-vm187.sysops.aol.com> <544EBF9D.5070008@gmail.com> <20141027230138.789C72585281@autox.team.net> <8D1C06443C0204D-534-1CCBC@webmail-va148.sysops.aol.com> <824041650-1414461508-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1469587758-@b27.c3.bise6.blackberry> <8D1C0CB185A9AD2-15B4-1F6DB@webmail-va132.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 09:11:55 -0400 From: Brad Kahler To: Bud R Cc: fot-bounces@autox.team.net, Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Stromberg Carb tuning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bud, if I remember correctly you're still running the stock fuel pump, correct? Brad On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:44 AM, Bud R wrote: > I ll second that. I would make sure the fuel pressure at the carbs is 1 > 1/2- 2 > psi. ZS carbs do not like higher fuel pressure than that and will miss > every > time a little too much fuel gets pushed past the float needle valves. > > In fact it would be the first thing I d correct because all the tuning and > replacing parts won t fix too high of fuel pressure. I chased my tail for > longer than I d like to admit before I figured out high fuel pressure was > causing a miss on my 6. > > Put a fuel pressure regulator on and test your pressure with a vacuum gage > to > get it right, then do all the other things that have been suggested by the > list. Don t trust the numbers on the fuel pressure regulator they are not > accurate. Use a vacuum gage to set it. > > Bud Rolofson > > Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) > > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 > 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) > 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle > 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 29 08:07:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A6E825848C1 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 08:07:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bosmailout02.eigbox.net (bosmailout02.eigbox.net [66.96.190.2]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA85D2584715 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 08:07:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bosmailscan02.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.2]) by bosmailout02.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1XjTxk-0005uY-Dy for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:11:00 -0400 Received: from [10.115.3.33] (helo=bosimpout13) by bosmailscan02.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1XjTxk-000388-C0 for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:11:00 -0400 Received: from bosauthsmtp20.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.20.18.20]) by bosimpout13 with id 92Ax1p0060Ryvre012B0kR; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:11:00 -0400 a=+ytGl4G4tE0vYSFVg4BDCw==:117 a=7oRr24W3TxUq4Abz7bhDTQ==:17 a=pq4jwCggAAAA:8 a=QPcu4mC3AAAA:8 a=3-MZCWuAnnEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=b4TgfONAAAAA:8 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=zxuNHrySAAAA:8 a=b4KrJKo_AAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=XY68_baAYJR7j8pu9LoA:9 a=TrgGwj5Gut-XJqJF:21 a=Jp9oldUu1wFOif77:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=OUScw3Ba1xUA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 Received: from [216.66.76.59] (port=53640 helo=zing) by bosauthsmtp20.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1XjTxg-0005Gz-Pd; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:10:56 -0400 From: "Robert MacKenzie" To: "'Greg And Alison Blake'" References: <93DFF27A-0069-4114-9CD6-20373FED0403@austin.rr.com> <9A4B53FE-9332-4B14-80C3-B2A74A0E566A@austin.rr.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 09:10:46 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac/y182zuDpWtgMERf+2jmDvFdUetAAqi34Q Content-Language: en-us Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Triumph GT6 Race Car, SCCA, lots of parts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have a much closer to "ready-to-race" Spitfire I can sell him. Robert MacKenzie Spitfire Garage Georgetown, TX -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg And Alison Blake Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 12:40 PM To: Jason Ostrowski Cc: Scott Booth; Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: Triumph GT6 Race Car, SCCA, lots of parts Kind of what I was thinking but I don't know too much about GT6s. Thanks for the feedback. > On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:17 AM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > > Good news and bad news. What is there looks pretty stout an well done. > And it seems to have some pretty advanced developement and trick custom stuff. as well as lots of decent parts. but there's lots of stuff missing that is going to turn in to lots of $ and lots of work for a guy you are trying to corrupt. > Its a great looking project if he's got some deep pockets to get it up > to snuff. It is listed as "vintage" and EP. But for your CVAR group there's many things that go way beyond vintage regs. This is a good car for a someone that wants to go crazy with some more modern developement. That being said, I like it. but its well on its way to being an SCCA car where but it's a long way off from being (and) it will cost lots to become competitive. So its neat and a cool "super production" but not exactly an entry level project in my opinion. and presently I don't see a great place for this to run. I would love to have it in my garage but its on its way towards a pretty advanced classification that is ready for more expensive steroids. > If you want you buddy to enjoy the hobby of race car driving quickly, > this is probably not the car for him. > Thanks for pointing it out. > Now here Again, I wish I had a million dollars. > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing >> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: >> Anyone know this car? Gotta a buddy I am trying to corrupt. >> >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> > From: "Blake, Gregory S" >> > Date: October 28, 2014 at 9:50:00 AM CDT >> > To: Greg and Alison Blake >> > Subject: Triumph GT6 Race Car, SCCA, lots of parts >> > >> > >> > http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/cto/4711892956.html >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > This email and any attached files are confidential and copyright protected. >> If you are not the addressee, any dissemination of this communication >> is strictly prohibited. Unless otherwise expressly agreed in writing, >> nothing stated in this communication shall be legally binding. >> > >> > The ultimate parent company of the Atkins Group is WS Atkins plc. Registered >> in England No. 1885586. Registered Office Woodcote Grove, Ashley >> Road, Epsom, >> Surrey KT18 5BW. 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Please don't print this e-mail unless you really >> need to. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/list@mackenzie.aero _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 09:58:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFD62584879 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:58:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f171.google.com (mail-ie0-f171.google.com [209.85.223.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D41225846CB for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:56:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f171.google.com with SMTP id x19so5524512ier.2 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:00:21 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YA5ygyN2V1Es1pauTcOgS6m/C2mHLKLOhiYMKNB0aOo=; b=dHgjiq6CE62gySCaF2xdrPre1A17ycqd0+w/L78xWZQFCoKVx9hDCgIKxs6/GBw45h GlSqF/7bujzHxQMgHFpgJray9+kqwc9p/fFPCF8fwa0I7dU2W8kRm32dGKZIJj7C+Qz7 Ssto1dlCpMCLVNXsz/JTIlJBg6N5O/CZpiTgkjorv6eaon2IcYAB0j663bN2tBxDhFg4 1iUR/5p08AFj2XgBMIa4Bb2Sfj/lT7bZ36B1zc732KjbkcPJPah9VnVyjGOjwA2BGgiF pIAxYM0xca7eCKtbKrtwrG1Axoqpid3xLeTpuAw0bbgdMShn28UUb5C5gjNfYcN1dCDH vLbA== mi2mr5718064igb.16.1414684821465; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.43.131.65 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:00:21 -0400 From: John Styduhar To: "Triumph 'Friends of Triumph" Subject: [Fot] Cambridge Motorsport Parts Ltd Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici, Anyone familiar with or the owner of the TR2-6 alloy front hubs offered by Cambridge Motorsport Parts in the UK? Your review would be appreciated. Thanks _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 11:56:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0E8258486E for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 11:56:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA27F2584858 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 11:56:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from new-host.home ([98.117.90.163]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NE900LMFRC4NKM0@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 13:00:05 -0500 (CDT) a=AR1dG/TeJCF0fX33BA8WKQ==:117 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=gSffeWHACUO9Pgic2iYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 From: Dean Tetterton Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 14:00:04 -0400 References: To: John Styduhar Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Cambridge Motorsport Parts Ltd Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I bought a set years ago They are made exactly like the original except in aluminum. They are not beefed up between where the wheel bolts and where the rotor bolts. I don't think they are suitable for racing. Save a little weight but not any stronger. Best to get the one's made by Southwick if they still do them. Dean T. On Oct 30, 2014, at 12:00 PM, John Styduhar wrote: > Amici, > Anyone familiar with or the owner of the TR2-6 alloy front hubs offered by > Cambridge Motorsport Parts in the UK? Your review would be appreciated. > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr3a58@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 12:10:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B73D2584A47 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:10:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bcs.bcshost.com (bcs.bcshost.com [192.254.176.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B1852584786 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:02:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail-oi0-f52.google.com ([209.85.218.52]:48248) by bcs.bcshost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Xju70-0005QW-Te for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 13:06:19 -0500 Received: by mail-oi0-f52.google.com with SMTP id u20so4344856oif.25 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 11:06:17 -0700 (PDT) w184mr1728401oig.110.1414692377353; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 11:06:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.240.107 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 11:06:17 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 13:06:17 -0500 From: Joe Alexander To: Dean Tetterton with any abuse report joe@the-vintage-racer.com Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Cambridge Motorsport Parts Ltd Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Richard Good........ GoodParts. On Thursday, October 30, 2014, Dean Tetterton wrote: > I bought a set years ago They are made exactly like the > original except in aluminum. They are not beefed up between > where the wheel bolts and where the rotor bolts. I don't think they are > suitable for racing. Save a little weight but not any stronger. Best > to get the one's made by Southwick if they still do them. > > Dean T. > > > On Oct 30, 2014, at 12:00 PM, John Styduhar wrote: > > > Amici, > > Anyone familiar with or the owner of the TR2-6 alloy front hubs offered > by > > Cambridge Motorsport Parts in the UK? Your review would be appreciated. > > Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr3a58@verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joe@the-vintage-racer.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 12:10:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501E22584ABD for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:10:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.159]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7828F2584786 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:05:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Charly (unknown [63.228.112.48]) (Authenticated sender: charly@mitchelplumbing.com) by smtpauth04.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A10FA5D80A4; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 13:08:53 -0500 (CDT) From: "Charly Mitchel" To: "Dean Tetterton" , "John Styduhar" References: Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 11:08:50 -0700 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Cambridge Motorsport Parts Ltd Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I believe British Parts NW and Moss Motors carry these. You should use strengthened axels also http://www.bpnorthwest.com/triumph/tr250-tr6/alloy-hub-heavy-duty-stub-axle-and-heavy-duty-bearing-set-tr3-to-tr6.html Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 From: "Dean Tetterton" To: "John Styduhar" Cc: "Triumph 'Friends of Triumph" Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Cambridge Motorsport Parts Ltd >I bought a set years ago They are made exactly like the > original except in aluminum. They are not beefed up between > where the wheel bolts and where the rotor bolts. I don't think they are > suitable for racing. Save a little weight but not any stronger. Best > to get the one's made by Southwick if they still do them. > > Dean T. > > > On Oct 30, 2014, at 12:00 PM, John Styduhar wrote: > >> Amici, >> Anyone familiar with or the owner of the TR2-6 alloy front hubs offered >> by >> Cambridge Motorsport Parts in the UK? Your review would be appreciated. >> Thanks >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr3a58@verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of tt3170_2.jpg] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 12:45:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A902584803 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:45:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.166]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A0D2584610 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:45:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-13v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.237]) by resqmta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 9Wor1p00157bBgG01Wp4Ca; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 18:49:04 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-503v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.178.3]) by resomta-po-13v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 9Wn41p00L04nC6y01Wn4Hx; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 18:47:04 +0000 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 18:47:03 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: "Mitchel, charly" References: Thread-Topic: Cambridge Motorsport Parts Ltd Thread-Index: fvV1ir89EBcCJKBfFf2YxqVPt6MIQw== s=q20140121; t=1414694944; bh=zYnEYxxkw2/u8HHoAg8rXqRkANKybkHo228349kO3v4=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=AE3CCsHLMWE9jQ3PwMPq1EKtiuNKfu1fn0MWJhHKOjESo6K/9HseRZZGGl1IhtCFh rJMH+f14YH9YAvlSCZbEzdExJecW6LZXr+iuyVzK7Ao6YdZMDe7u2Wz6MHyCEU9llU 7TR4+97xMcSBTx3AVlYuYM1/aoCdzGufoFdCZW0t6obN7FUqa72K0rzao4IXuBbLY1 umeMFFOEUsdD0IYI8q5qfkz+KEuJKbFXQKfHL8WpepA+RQVWjnEAOiYuNkTThZVco4 wWPetchsOd3nu9kWo2otVqFE9TEoCw9LQtsh5tMrM0bUl01esKj8ODNM9E5ENkT9hI 0/xWQiHlt1Bpw== Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Cambridge Motorsport Parts Ltd Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The BPNW parts look good, I've seen them in person. Interesting design as to not copy others? The bearings are sealed and no dust cap is required, or even possible because of the size of the axle, washer and nut design. The thickest area of the axle carries through to the nut. I guess no grease is required. Personally, I'm using Joe A's axle kit and Tony D's revised Southwick style hubs. Long tried and tested. Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitchel, charly" To: "Tetterton, Dean" , "John Styduhar" Cc: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:08:50 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Cambridge Motorsport Parts Ltd I believe British Parts NW and Moss Motors carry these. You should use strengthened axels also http://www.bpnorthwest.com/triumph/tr250-tr6/alloy-hub-heavy-duty-stub-axle-and-heavy-duty-bearing-set-tr3-to-tr6.html Charly Mitchel TR6 #44 From: "Dean Tetterton" To: "John Styduhar" Cc: "Triumph 'Friends of Triumph" Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Cambridge Motorsport Parts Ltd >I bought a set years ago They are made exactly like the > original except in aluminum. They are not beefed up between > where the wheel bolts and where the rotor bolts. I don't think they are > suitable for racing. Save a little weight but not any stronger. Best > to get the one's made by Southwick if they still do them. > > Dean T. > > > On Oct 30, 2014, at 12:00 PM, John Styduhar wrote: > >> Amici, >> Anyone familiar with or the owner of the TR2-6 alloy front hubs offered >> by >> Cambridge Motorsport Parts in the UK? Your review would be appreciated. >> Thanks >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr3a58@verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/charly@mitchelplumbing.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of tt3170_2.jpg] _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 12:53:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B21B25847F8 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:53:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E6F72584787 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:47:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([71.116.36.193]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NE9009JFTO5D490@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 13:50:30 -0500 (CDT) a=dgAzUI+lILTWfq/CSWBZ6Q==:117 a=IJ9pWlWUkYEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=Ve63hWPTZsea91nW09kA:9 a=cYcvfuYRcVCSfImh:21 a=eU9gbHS0mB5t04nH:21 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 From: "Bill Tobin" To: "John Styduhar" , "Triumph 'Friends of Triumph" References: Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 14:50:01 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] Cambridge Motorsport Parts Ltd Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm not familiar with them, but am quite familiar with Richard Good's front hubs. Smooth and strong. Works of art, like the rest of his stuff. Not cheap but not outrageous either. Be sure to go with Uncle Jack's spindles too. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Styduhar" To: "Triumph 'Friends of Triumph" Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 12:00 PM Subject: [Fot] Cambridge Motorsport Parts Ltd > Amici, > Anyone familiar with or the owner of the TR2-6 alloy front hubs offered by > Cambridge Motorsport Parts in the UK? Your review would be appreciated. > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 13:08:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311B525845C3 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 13:08:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC172584601 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 13:01:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.99.30] (c-68-80-11-16.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [68.80.11.16]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NE900I5MUBWUZB0@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 19:04:46 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-10-30_07:2014-10-30,2014-10-30,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1408290000 definitions=main-1410300166 From: Scott Janzen Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 15:05:03 -0400 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2015 Host Hotel - Jefferson 500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is to announce the host hotel for the Kastner Cup at the Jefferson 500 at Summit Point, West Virginia next May 14-17. The hotel will be the Hampton Inn Winchester North, on I-81 about 20 minutes from the track, in Winchester, Virginia. The rate is $83/night - this compares favorably to rates typically exceeding $120/night at that time of year. I'd suggest you make your reservations now, as we have a limited room block, and will also open this up soon to the Triumph street car clubs. You can cancel up until 24 hours before if plans change, with no penalty. If this room block fills up, I hope to be able to expand it, but have also set up a block at a Fairfield Inn for the same rate about one mile away. I'd also like to start getting a head count on who plans to race, regardless of where you stay. Please send me an email if you are planning to race. sjanzen@me.com We're going to be posting updated information about the race weekend on both Kas' site and the FOT site, so please keep an eye on both of them starting in a few days. Thanks! Mention FOT if you call the hotel - the link takes you directly to reservations for our room block. Hampton Inn, Winchester Va. 540-678-4000 http://hamptoninn.hilton.com/en/hp/groups/personalized/W/WNCHHHX-FOT-20150513 /index.jhtml?WT.mc_id=POG _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 13:08:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17EA7258460E for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 13:08:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (isis.mit.edu [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33C52584601 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 13:02:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s9UJ5ba6029553; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 15:05:37 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 15:05:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Joe Alexander References: Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Cambridge Motorsport Parts Ltd Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net PLUS ONE for GoodParts!! rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 30 Oct 2014, Joe Alexander wrote: > Richard Good........ GoodParts. > > On Thursday, October 30, 2014, Dean Tetterton wrote: > >> I bought a set years ago They are made exactly like the >> original except in aluminum. They are not beefed up between >> where the wheel bolts and where the rotor bolts. I don't think they are >> suitable for racing. Save a little weight but not any stronger. Best >> to get the one's made by Southwick if they still do them. >> >> Dean T. >> >> >> On Oct 30, 2014, at 12:00 PM, John Styduhar wrote: >> >>> Amici, >>> Anyone familiar with or the owner of the TR2-6 alloy front hubs offered >> by >>> Cambridge Motorsport Parts in the UK? Your review would be appreciated. >>> Thanks >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr3a58@verizon.net >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joe@the-vintage-racer.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/lang@isis.mit.edu _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 14:54:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661DA258463C for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 14:54:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m05.mx.aol.com (omr-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA912580041 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 14:47:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-aai01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-aai01.mx.aol.com [172.27.2.97]) by omr-m05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 81EFF7034F696 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 16:51:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.105] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-aai01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 1129638000094 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 16:51:03 -0400 (EDT) References: <6F638688-7BC0-4E9B-80F9-688C03AB1DC5@cs.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 15:51:02 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1414702263; bh=UP9nlJeVU86Xy+DH2YQyPeYog9irNaUhN1nGbX0thIM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=Fn62SbQCJ0CPElufChRW9PpvQuQsJKQUFMSxSEoreynOp3uCEMgC4Y7e9kPQHggkH jZCHEaj1YSEsANEM73Mmbx3X4+bghw7IE8lfhb6yTty0rAQ70pZ+m6FLCaRhaFH1Dk pMlvBgVT1u4vhL7gAPoeG9aBwU/6as+5VCI/6TVo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b02615452a4b76962 Subject: [Fot] Entry. Summit Point Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > Driver. Sean Alexander. TR4. 1962. #97. > Crew. Joe Alexander. Mark Alexander. Brendan Alexander. Jan Alexander. > > > Thanks for organizing this, Scott........ > > > Joe Alexander > 645 1st Street > Jesup, IA 50648 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 15:14:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BFA525848E4 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 15:14:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp05.bis6.us.blackberry.com (smtp05.bis6.us.blackberry.com [74.82.85.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEBDE2584637 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 15:14:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from b4.c8.bise6.blackberry ([192.168.0.104]) by srs.bis6.us.blackberry.com (8.13.7 TEAMON/8.13.7) with ESMTP id s9UBYTHo025883; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 21:15:33 GMT References: <56592AA3-7B69-4537-A2FE-EDB0F59EA9DE@me.com> Sensitivity: Normal To: "Scott Janzen" , "FOT" From: gasket.works@gte.net Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 21:15:37 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2015 Host Hotel - Jefferson 500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mordy 1967 tr4a irs. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: Scott Janzen Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 15:05:03 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2015 Host Hotel - Jefferson 500 This is to announce the host hotel for the Kastner Cup at the Jefferson 500 at Summit Point, West Virginia next May 14-17. The hotel will be the Hampton Inn Winchester North, on I-81 about 20 minutes from the track, in Winchester, Virginia. The rate is $83/night - this compares favorably to rates typically exceeding $120/night at that time of year. I'd suggest you make your reservations now, as we have a limited room block, and will also open this up soon to the Triumph street car clubs. You can cancel up until 24 hours before if plans change, with no penalty. If this room block fills up, I hope to be able to expand it, but have also set up a block at a Fairfield Inn for the same rate about one mile away. I'd also like to start getting a head count on who plans to race, regardless of where you stay. Please send me an email if you are planning to race. sjanzen@me.com We're going to be posting updated information about the race weekend on both Kas' site and the FOT site, so please keep an eye on both of them starting in a few days. Thanks! Mention FOT if you call the hotel - the link takes you directly to reservations for our room block. Hampton Inn, Winchester Va. 540-678-4000 http://hamptoninn.hilton.com/en/hp/groups/personalized/W/WNCHHHX-FOT-20150513 /index.jhtml?WT.mc_id=POG _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 16:25:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8CA258482F for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 16:25:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC2S9.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s9.hotmail.com [65.55.111.84]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650F8258476B for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 16:22:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU402-EAS274 ([65.55.111.71]) by BLU004-OMC2S9.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Thu, 30 Oct 2014 15:26:17 -0700 From: marty To: =?utf-8?Q?SCOTT_JANZEN?= , =?utf-8?Q?FOT?= Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 22:25:14 +0000 FILETIME=[85E4DC30:01CFF490] Subject: Re: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Kastner_Cup_2015_Host_Hotel_-_Jefferson_500?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Team Sukey will be there. Sent from Windows Mail I'd also like to start getting a head count on who plans to race, regardless of where you stay. Please send me an email if you are planning to race. sjanzen@me.com http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 17:24:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6938B2584904 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 17:24:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869C225802EE for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 17:22:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [67.255.13.17] ([67.255.13.17:51536] helo=Russlaptop) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 4F/39-28940-2F8C2545; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 23:25:38 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: "'FOT'" Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 19:25:36 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac/0hw4EoErwPAseRbek4pWG6RjxXQAAvWXwAAOoV1A= Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2015 Host Hotel - Jefferson 500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Okay we'll add to the ranks: Russ Moore 63 Spitfire Jeff Govert 65 Spitfire Donn Sopp 65 Spitfire Carl Stenquist 62 TR-4 (pending entry approval by VRG) I'll submit details/car numbers/crew etc in the near future. None of the above will need motel space(motorhomes). More to follow................. Russ -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of gasket.works@gte.net Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 5:16 PM To: Scott Janzen; FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2015 Host Hotel - Jefferson 500 Mordy 1967 tr4a irs. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: Scott Janzen Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 15:05:03 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2015 Host Hotel - Jefferson 500 This is to announce the host hotel for the Kastner Cup at the Jefferson 500 at Summit Point, West Virginia next May 14-17. The hotel will be the Hampton Inn Winchester North, on I-81 about 20 minutes from the track, in Winchester, Virginia. The rate is $83/night - this compares favorably to rates typically exceeding $120/night at that time of year. I'd suggest you make your reservations now, as we have a limited room block, and will also open this up soon to the Triumph street car clubs. You can cancel up until 24 hours before if plans change, with no penalty. If this room block fills up, I hope to be able to expand it, but have also set up a block at a Fairfield Inn for the same rate about one mile away. I'd also like to start getting a head count on who plans to race, regardless of where you stay. Please send me an email if you are planning to race. sjanzen@me.com We're going to be posting updated information about the race weekend on both Kas' site and the FOT site, so please keep an eye on both of them starting in a few days. Thanks! Mention FOT if you call the hotel - the link takes you directly to reservations for our room block. Hampton Inn, Winchester Va. 540-678-4000 http://hamptoninn.hilton.com/en/hp/groups/personalized/W/WNCHHHX-FOT-2015051 3 /index.jhtml?WT.mc_id=POG _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gasket.works@gte.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 18:09:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEDAC258080C for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 18:09:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7250225802AF for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 18:03:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([71.116.36.193]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NEA00GT98ASNU10@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 19:06:30 -0500 (CDT) a=dgAzUI+lILTWfq/CSWBZ6Q==:117 a=IJ9pWlWUkYEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=HHGDD-5mAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=_8zBwPMRAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=iseH6JpG0nD_HaBbSYgA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=XnhVGmOH0JEA:10 a=3wgzxhCX9ewA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Scott Janzen" , "'Friends of Triumph' Triumph" References: <56592AA3-7B69-4537-A2FE-EDB0F59EA9DE@me.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 20:06:00 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2015 Host Hotel - Jefferson 500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Scott, I'll be there with the TR6. Camping in my trailer. My crew: Driver: Bill Tobin Crew chief: Same Chief mechanic: Same Chief engineer: Same Machinist: Same Go'fer: Same Chef: Same Rig driver: Same Sponser: Same Looks like a one man show! I may bring my old friend Jack Deren and pal Matt Bernard. I'll keep you posted. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Janzen" To: "'Friends of Triumph' Triumph" Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:05 PM Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2015 Host Hotel - Jefferson 500 > This is to announce the host hotel for the Kastner Cup at the Jefferson > 500 at > Summit Point, West Virginia next May 14-17. > The hotel will be the Hampton Inn Winchester North, on I-81 about 20 > minutes > from the track, in Winchester, Virginia. The rate is $83/night - this > compares favorably to rates typically exceeding $120/night at that time of > year. > > I'd suggest you make your reservations now, as we have a limited room > block, > and will also open this up soon to the Triumph street car clubs. You can > cancel up until 24 hours before if plans change, with no penalty. If this > room block fills up, I hope to be able to expand it, but have also set up > a > block at a Fairfield Inn for the same rate about one mile away. > > I'd also like to start getting a head count on who plans to race, > regardless > of where you stay. Please send me an email if you are planning to race. > sjanzen@me.com > > We're going to be posting updated information about the race weekend on > both > Kas' site and the FOT site, so please keep an eye on both of them starting > in > a few days. > > Thanks! > > Mention FOT if you call the hotel - the link takes you directly to > reservations for our room block. > Hampton Inn, Winchester Va. 540-678-4000 > > http://hamptoninn.hilton.com/en/hp/groups/personalized/W/WNCHHHX-FOT-20150513 > /index.jhtml?WT.mc_id=POG > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 20:28:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B10F8258447C for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 20:28:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f182.google.com (mail-ig0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 396E625807BA for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 20:25:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f182.google.com with SMTP id hn18so160339igb.15 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 19:28:38 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :references:in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date :content-type:mime-version; bh=44R1f1wJiE3ap/nN/BEc1ZcrtEVaiKG3nshIgBekK3w=; b=WAdbQygKNTekhXrGFwE1qMkPVwXhVNET35FvBHN3lxevH6ihDuhuRk/LFB6Ko7gOwM jHmbrCm+Vyn4jEU85SxTP8U83UPzXEeXklwwwXT1A3pKq4yyqd90hHobxBm9Ch17XJuA UNpTkP+Gl0PzDomd6hSziULOR8LibU+bZF1uFa5tNGF8cKOYPXP7DpEmcoZHeO3uWPmy zgvFOBFB51nDAKubwJVvERFNJhlntfzobgalT1IEHqczebiQiIhfgR+l8ofew0sj6EgI rwY0tbVoWSroGYgVUiN+rYxy5dzWlHinz0NQLrJAxPuuJiIUnvlHZ3EH1fIdOgJUEawZ pwEA== Thu, 30 Oct 2014 19:28:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.190 (bda-74-82-80-161.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.161]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qp8sm2708779igb.15.2014.10.30.19.28.37 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 30 Oct 2014 19:28:38 -0700 (PDT) References: <56592AA3-7B69-4537-A2FE-EDB0F59EA9DE@me.com> Sensitivity: Normal To: "Scott Janzen" ,"Fot" ,"Fot" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 02:28:37 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2015 Host Hotel - Jefferson 500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Friendly Ghost Racing will be there. We will have at least one and hopefully 2 GT6's in the race. I will be there for sure driving. And either Keith Files or Brian Garcia will drive the other car. Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing 2 1969 Triumph GT6s Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Scott Janzen To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2015 Host Hotel - Jefferson 500 This is to announce the host hotel for the Kastner Cup at the Jefferson 500 at Summit Point, West Virginia next May 14-17. The hotel will be the Hampton Inn Winchester North, on I-81 about 20 minutes from the track, in Winchester, Virginia. The rate is $83/night - this compares favorably to rates typically exceeding $120/night at that time of year. I'd suggest you make your reservations now, as we have a limited room block, and will also open this up soon to the Triumph street car clubs. You can cancel up until 24 hours before if plans change, with no penalty. If this room block fills up, I hope to be able to expand it, but have also set up a block at a Fairfield Inn for the same rate about one mile away. I'd also like to start getting a head count on who plans to race, regardless of where you stay. Please send me an email if you are planning to race. sjanzen@me.com We're going to be posting updated information about the race weekend on both Kas' site and the FOT site, so please keep an eye on both of them starting in a few days. Thanks! Mention FOT if you call the hotel - the link takes you directly to reservations for our room block. Hampton Inn, Winchester Va. 540-678-4000 http://hamptoninn.hilton.com/en/hp/groups/personalized/W/WNCHHHX-FOT-20150513 /index.jhtml?WT.mc_id=POG _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 02:31:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD420258456D for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 02:31:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk (rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk [65.20.0.183]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB512580539; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 02:31:43 -0600 (MDT) reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 ip=82.132.219.171, rules=__MIME_VERSION, __IN_REP_TO, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __MSGID_APPLEMAIL, __MULTIPLE_RCPTS_CC_X2, __HAS_X_MAILER, __HAS_FROM, __PHISH_FROM2, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL_FROM, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NO_NAME, MIME_LOWER_CASE, __ANY_URI, URI_ENDS_IN_HTML, __FRAUD_BODY_WEBMAIL, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, __C230066_P5, __STOCK_PHRASE_7, __OEM_PRICE, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __FORWARDED_MSG, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_2000_2999, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, __URI_NS, SXL_IP_DYNAMIC[171.219.132.82.fur], SXL_IP_PROXY[171.219.132.82.fur], HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, __PHISH_FROM, MULTIPLE_RCPTS, __PHISH_SPEAR_STRUCTURE_1, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS Received: from [10.64.17.151] (82.132.219.171) by rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk (8.6.122.06) (authenticated as keithfiles@btinternet.com) id 544E648C008F8C0E; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 08:34:58 +0000 s=btcpcloud; t=1414744508; bh=xuDBCTfsG+BXD4akD8vHT5qr2fzZM4Yt2kXymljcvzA=; h=References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=R0ujLFyaZFg9Rz7ZBbBv436DKRhLPYCM8hwL/bboJ9puxuRFXkmM/N8WytV1m9xdxXXsl7pzuOzp/8g0I9hNrJKUM8MOG4/17lT4V1oYSgkEDUtGF+Sf3CTnCqTpSsyhEy1UR2U7hgeHndYa0avkyxf8S8wzubDbTClg7p6FQmk= References: <56592AA3-7B69-4537-A2FE-EDB0F59EA9DE@me.com> <20141031022816.9F41225844C9@autox.team.net> From: Keith Files Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 08:34:36 +0000 To: "jason@multivintage.com" Cc: Fot , Fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2015 Host Hotel - Jefferson 500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Jason, Happy to drive your car and share with Brian, your call entirely. Keith Sent from my iPad > On 31 Oct 2014, at 02:28, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > > Friendly Ghost Racing will be there. > We will have at least one and hopefully 2 GT6's in the race. > I will be there for sure driving. > And either Keith Files or Brian Garcia will drive the other car. > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > 2 1969 Triumph GT6s > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Janzen > Sender: "Fot" Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 15:05:03 > To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph > Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2015 Host Hotel - Jefferson 500 > > This is to announce the host hotel for the Kastner Cup at the Jefferson 500 at > Summit Point, West Virginia next May 14-17. > The hotel will be the Hampton Inn Winchester North, on I-81 about 20 minutes > from the track, in Winchester, Virginia. The rate is $83/night - this > compares favorably to rates typically exceeding $120/night at that time of > year. > > I'd suggest you make your reservations now, as we have a limited room block, > and will also open this up soon to the Triumph street car clubs. You can > cancel up until 24 hours before if plans change, with no penalty. If this > room block fills up, I hope to be able to expand it, but have also set up a > block at a Fairfield Inn for the same rate about one mile away. > > I'd also like to start getting a head count on who plans to race, regardless > of where you stay. Please send me an email if you are planning to race. > sjanzen@me.com > > We're going to be posting updated information about the race weekend on both > Kas' site and the FOT site, so please keep an eye on both of them starting in > a few days. > > Thanks! > > Mention FOT if you call the hotel - the link takes you directly to > reservations for our room block. > Hampton Inn, Winchester Va. 540-678-4000 > > http://hamptoninn.hilton.com/en/hp/groups/personalized/W/WNCHHHX-FOT-20150513 > /index.jhtml?WT.mc_id=POG > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/keithfiles@btinternet.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 05:51:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFBD82580468 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 05:51:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from na01-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-by2on0122.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.100.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8DAA2580468 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 05:50:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.255.189.16) by BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.255.189.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.11.14; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 11:54:14 +0000 Received: from BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.189.16]) by BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.189.16]) with mapi id 15.01.0011.000; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 11:54:14 +0000 From: Michael Moore To: Scott Janzen , 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Thread-Topic: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2015 Host Hotel - Jefferson 500 Thread-Index: AQHP9HVWWJMIetKry0C7M+dyS9td/ZxKGV3Q Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 11:54:14 +0000 References: <56592AA3-7B69-4537-A2FE-EDB0F59EA9DE@me.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [24.165.139.19] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BLUPR04MB855; x-forefront-prvs: 03818C953D x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(48214007)(38414003)(41574002)(189002)(199003)(13464003)(377454003)(33646002)(85852003)(97736003)(74316001)(46102003)(80022003)(19580395003)(87936001)(76482002)(4396001)(19580405001)(2656002)(16601075003)(108616004)(40100003)(21056001)(105586002)(95666004)(122556002)(101416001)(106116001)(31966008)(15202345003)(76576001)(99286002)(85306004)(107886001)(106356001)(107046002)(54356999)(50986999)(86362001)(76176999)(92566001)(20776003)(64706001)(66066001)(99396003)(15975445006)(120916001)(24736002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BLUPR04MB855; H:BLUPR04MB855.namprd04.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:0; LANG:en; Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2015 Host Hotel - Jefferson 500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mike Moore, and family, and parents, and dog, and TR4 Thanks Mike Michael T. Moore, CPA 2007 West 32nd Street Erie, PA 16508 Phone: 814-868-4831 ext 103 Fax: 814-864-7383 -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Scott Janzen Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:05 PM To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2015 Host Hotel - Jefferson 500 This is to announce the host hotel for the Kastner Cup at the Jefferson 500 at Summit Point, West Virginia next May 14-17. The hotel will be the Hampton Inn Winchester North, on I-81 about 20 minutes from the track, in Winchester, Virginia. The rate is $83/night - this compares favorably to rates typically exceeding $120/night at that time of year. I'd suggest you make your reservations now, as we have a limited room block, and will also open this up soon to the Triumph street car clubs. You can cancel up until 24 hours before if plans change, with no penalty. If this room block fills up, I hope to be able to expand it, but have also set up a block at a Fairfield Inn for the same rate about one mile away. I'd also like to start getting a head count on who plans to race, regardless of where you stay. Please send me an email if you are planning to race. sjanzen@me.com We're going to be posting updated information about the race weekend on both Kas' site and the FOT site, so please keep an eye on both of them starting in a few days. Thanks! Mention FOT if you call the hotel - the link takes you directly to reservations for our room block. Hampton Inn, Winchester Va. 540-678-4000 http://hamptoninn.hilton.com/en/hp/groups/personalized/W/WNCHHHX-FOT-20150513 /index.jhtml?WT.mc_id=POG _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mmoore@mtmcpafirm.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 06:01:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C076025849E2 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 06:01:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.smtpout.orange.fr (smtp06.smtpout.orange.fr [80.12.242.128]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CEAB258496D for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 05:55:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from orange.fr ([186.23.143.80]) by mwinf5d12 with ME id 9ny01p00S1kHBwi03nyNjx; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 12:58:26 +0100 From: "Joe Henry" Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 12:38:31 +0000 To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] From: Joe Henry Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hey http://combine-harvesters.com/forest.php?material=a38hwcqv8dd7w jhd11@hotmail.com Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 08:48:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5989C2580539 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 08:48:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy9-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy9-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.20.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 7AEE82580468 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 08:47:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 23088 invoked by uid 0); 31 Oct 2014 14:50:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw3) (10.0.90.84) by gproxy9.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 31 Oct 2014 14:50:54 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw3 with id 9wqp1p00n1NzpT901wqsHl; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 14:50:53 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=HHGDD-5mAAAA:8 a=_8zBwPMRAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=GZgTcsqS7_lLp3Kr9LEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=XnhVGmOH0JEA:10 a=3wgzxhCX9ewA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=52135 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XkDXN-0005PQ-6c for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 08:50:50 -0600 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 09:50:39 -0500 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph From: Tony Drews References: <56592AA3-7B69-4537-A2FE-EDB0F59EA9DE@me.com> {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2015 Host Hotel - Jefferson 500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'll be there Tony Drews, #95 TR-4 At 02:05 PM 10/30/2014, Scott Janzen wrote: >This is to announce the host hotel for the Kastner Cup at the Jefferson 500 at >Summit Point, West Virginia next May 14-17. >The hotel will be the Hampton Inn Winchester North, on I-81 about 20 minutes >from the track, in Winchester, Virginia. The rate is $83/night - this >compares favorably to rates typically exceeding $120/night at that time of >year. > >I'd suggest you make your reservations now, as we have a limited room block, >and will also open this up soon to the Triumph street car clubs. You can >cancel up until 24 hours before if plans change, with no penalty. If this >room block fills up, I hope to be able to expand it, but have also set up a >block at a Fairfield Inn for the same rate about one mile away. > >I'd also like to start getting a head count on who plans to race, regardless >of where you stay. Please send me an email if you are planning to race. >sjanzen@me.com > >We're going to be posting updated information about the race weekend on both >Kas' site and the FOT site, so please keep an eye on both of them starting in >a few days. > >Thanks! > >Mention FOT if you call the hotel - the link takes you directly to >reservations for our room block. >Hampton Inn, Winchester Va. 540-678-4000 > >http://hamptoninn.hilton.com/en/hp/groups/personalized/W/WNCHHHX-FOT-20150513 >/index.jhtml?WT.mc_id=POG >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 11:34:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC3CB2580997 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 11:34:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC18B2580771 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 11:27:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.99.30] (c-68-80-11-16.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [68.80.11.16]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NEB00DSLKMMBJ80@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:30:24 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-10-31_08:2014-10-31,2014-10-31,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1408290000 definitions=main-1410310166 From: Scott Janzen Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 13:30:42 -0400 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] 2015 Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net thanks for the responses! We're already up to 27 cars/drivers, with a great mix of cars, just from the FOT response. Keep 'em coming! So far, the breakdown is roughly nine Spitfires (great turn-out), 5-6 GT6s, eight TR4s, two TR3s, two TR6s and two TR250s. There are other Triumph racers who usually show that aren't on the FOT list, so I think we're headed for a great turn-out. Start working on your cars now so we won't be beaten by equipment - I know I need to! I'll try to cut down on the promotional emails for awhile, but I am asking for someone to coordinate the t-shirt order process. We have the design and a supplier, and it's too early to actually start taking orders, but I'd like to get this one off my plate. Any volunteers? Jason, I'm going to flag this for your benefit - Jim Dolan is planning on entering three historic GT6s: 1972 GT6 (Brian Fuerstenau original Group 44 car) 1972 GT6 (Kas Kastner's original car) 1969 GT6 (Harvey Thompson9s original car) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 12:20:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6608125844C3 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 12:20:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F4A2580972 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 12:07:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.99]) by resqmta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 9u9h1p00129Cfhx01uAZKl; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 18:10:33 +0000 Received: from [10.97.132.118] ([166.176.122.175]) by resomta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 9uAB1p00G3n9scu01uAPEs; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 18:10:31 +0000 From: Jim Gray Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 13:10:09 -0500 To: "" s=q20140121; t=1414779033; bh=88PzJKx9l3atMlKTyHhYJY7x/aO16J57+vqHCAI1sK0=; h=Received:Received:Subject:From:Content-Type:Message-Id:Date:To: Mime-Version; b=vS/85/ENmpYFl8tyqJiu1g2WJ0we59yWHSc8QMh8fSs2okW6SvLe63qgeEuoeS5wA WoZR/hsglpn5FkxTib4Q5fyJFKzzDkFWHmtT4RymX6r7mq1zyXPlwxHjH8KQPyfJ6U r8zU4ct7fqbi8WTs4+Ele+6gWnBoE2Ng8C31evjaozK3AJveSg1My1cfi/T3KHuu8H DrreUoevsiJIgCHjRWUGW5kWxlhXDKGC+CpuhL/ZxRb4xZOY+/NDchxsvefXC7LRmz vysFiFfnDa9O4JgtjhUhzuP2x2j56DVC2zgGU/LOG5fJjo/SSuFivdTfhqL7Oyd0Mm NzK5s/ttV2TQw== Subject: [Fot] Beer & beautiful weather in Austin Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Are there any FoT at the track today? Jim g Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 13:51:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C17125844B0 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 13:51:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.161]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29FA625806BC for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 13:47:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.225]) by resqmta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 9vr91p0024s37d401vrGvR; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 19:51:16 +0000 Received: from CraigHP ([68.33.54.73]) by resomta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 9vrF1p00P1amW3o01vrG00; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 19:51:16 +0000 From: "Craig Wensley" To: "'Scott Janzen'" , "''Friends of Triumph' Triumph'" References: <8CC903E2-D38A-4B39-9280-A1DD549D93F6@me.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 15:51:16 -0400 Thread-Index: AQLuXp5758Sro9WGndlZjQWR+Y+615oNyrXw Content-Language: en-us s=q20140121; t=1414785076; bh=PTV5IIazolhstjlbNfTsvAjnuqFCQLwkGK8LTQs8Vs8=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=Q2M9D4y7Z0h8wq8PxUHoAF1mGOPQzxy7KH4voCotPnn8YCHujm6yug+SLvxdw82C3 s9nJv4ElsLhWKtedcswaSDP/EB6k9+8Xt3dP9CBVtBm6UE0dMmnMLMsiP0lh1y8+OK BRMN9uMZdAim0dd5jY98rn2fZ1qGqxQuySVMjsb7ounj++ln4xjGmb49U3e5kW7dr2 avrwLUC9+JeVi/bPRBmaGuyQcPTvo5RCJyEoeVkVcSymEkfOp+CkS02iCuJuKP2gVa CIZXHPIlUZKgenBUhftH1ck4M1No6d1ynJiztZqn1JFIO/tC5zA9vwtxJmxTZhTBpd uWjDy7k8xSAnw== Subject: Re: [Fot] 2015 Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net What no 8s -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Scott Janzen Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 1:31 PM To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] 2015 Kastner Cup thanks for the responses! We're already up to 27 cars/drivers, with a great mix of cars, just from the FOT response. Keep 'em coming! So far, the breakdown is roughly nine Spitfires (great turn-out), 5-6 GT6s, eight TR4s, two TR3s, two TR6s and two TR250s. There are other Triumph racers who usually show that aren't on the FOT list, so I think we're headed for a great turn-out. Start working on your cars now so we won't be beaten by equipment - I know I need to! I'll try to cut down on the promotional emails for awhile, but I am asking for someone to coordinate the t-shirt order process. We have the design and a supplier, and it's too early to actually start taking orders, but I'd like to get this one off my plate. Any volunteers? Jason, I'm going to flag this for your benefit - Jim Dolan is planning on entering three historic GT6s: 1972 GT6 (Brian Fuerstenau original Group 44 car) 1972 GT6 (Kas Kastner's original car) 1969 GT6 (Harvey Thompson9s original car) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/wensley_tr@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 14:05:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31DFD25844AE for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 14:05:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.197]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA11A25806BC for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 14:00:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [100.159.154.17] ([172.56.14.103]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mreueus002) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M1pkK-1Y3KRz0MQc-00tlQ7; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 21:04:08 +0100 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 15:03:57 -0500 From: The Fooddude To: Jim Gray , "" Wu3TP7v//cxi0xSbjDIXxL+KjTlOMSTNx2iYNxhIqeMqvGsNdT 6yCzY/25TvbQkNE32EBWbrGhruD4FFb6vyMo5KpxxT7JI792Cu idkDXrvSfN2PBw3UO5Jg6K+mH7tF/cOM7pjwLGCorqgQd9fyyO VaFMqE4ieT8QTgkB7S5tFyjPN9op3Xrz2TN+PpzyqAmbMUdF5a cqzq+2ndepqqL/Vn4uaT4Fe05kw6GvrYv3buqaEAgc92h3ONJC WC73/jXhAegV6HJUXEGrqqvlq4btY1xhz73izYLHmpT9vDbCC5 tXjxwyn5OW8rHvvoXn2wTYHirDg0ckjpNkbPo6wPyj5ANtOO8c tZWlpWT+feB2j2Xfnl2Nl77eUbnHadu3dA= Subject: Re: [Fot] Beer & beautiful weather in Austin Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, main grandstand, B sec 208 Sent via and typos courtesy wireless handheld device. -------- Original message -------- From: Jim Gray Date:10/31/2014 1:10 PM (GMT-06:00) To: "" Subject: [Fot] Beer & beautiful weather in Austin Are there any FoT at the track today? Jim g Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 14:21:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B6825806BC for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 14:21:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm26-vm6.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm26-vm6.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.213]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2144125806BC for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 14:17:40 -0600 (MDT) s=s1024; t=1414786863; bh=dS26KijIx3afwrj+G6KovPcTih1nKSa0Lrt33wreMBQ=; h=From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=oxFCmRiMV62Htbb6cpyUkKkQu2lkqhMBV0WCrv5A+re8d5rAk1Da7M6fsXcw0HtAnBD5Jxykb8Jqw8YrXfbLyCubFY1fNqx+3hR5yxQQvC3gNjGeFVXqAkkg9CcqRShklJyzFHB9/XD+VxI8r6RJ/frx24HYu+guJXft/oQigmQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; b=1MsR65jpUO7W45wa38sBKiQNzYq/5CMt/OpQ5Oewu0HZmewk3/LohXAH61XhPYn41C0G9qFferceCfd29NgwchSyW0dC97t6echSacHITsaM3yunVILn4vzjO3l3zktT4fibja6FsLE1Dg5clJiJ6nUS/4PZ7zvnbFLgyxMRAg8=; Received: from [66.196.81.161] by nm26.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Oct 2014 20:21:03 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.158] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Oct 2014 20:21:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp118.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Oct 2014 20:21:03 -0000 cSwr4KtryhhHDzuCFbMUCUicIrEAQ6OYXONGXvMhrCWGyHkNoYsn8aOWyKz0 oM1n7blZtMf4do3XvDec2K90rjeG9bogH0rGA_6o3718eClFqYFMrJogxm6L R9GMzWjXfmlBRWJ6hDVNmXZodKHQ2BZti13nb1y4ipX6ZvwE25baqFiV8bJ2 xW_n9h8GXIk5Gv.spqSJeh4lGL7vkQfrQbjLPIS9krIOpCTcisoYil2oZlXv 9_FUOaelNBDHYm_VVk1cJXMOJeyrP89rEV19Ewn.EJ1.IFZ0OlVfMTy0V7nV fA.GC3szCMfh1LbQjT3n1yOvFPHbvd1XyDhPG56aJxmV16aPDj8nGI.gbiDK Uk43t8C_h0EriUT5VktF088m9sN_vbLwAycFjG7JgQDX5eqWVdUvjSSG69MK dxsCFMZFVnnViTvf8k_6nnN7FV0GzgsxqR4ZAXjwNX__MelUjMIwUPnsH0zx Klxz4nQ4EOhDh0d3MtQ7oQcvJzGECZwl_2aOZ5fQj9cZDCDYooZyBNs5cA5u FySrPIDJYnlrAeuM3UN9xLSDhKwZ02MC4OkLmaQnDW5zRC42O1xaj From: "Paul MacDonald" To: "'Craig Wensley'" , "'Scott Janzen'" , "''Friends of Triumph' Triumph'" References: <8CC903E2-D38A-4B39-9280-A1DD549D93F6@me.com> <000d01cff544$0934a4e0$1b9deea0$@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 16:21:00 -0400 Thread-Index: AQLuXp5758Sro9WGndlZjQWR+Y+61wLtap7BmfZm2KA= Content-Language: en-ca Subject: Re: [Fot] 2015 Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Vern Brannon said he was getting the Slagle convertible out sometime in 2015. He is not on this list, but suggested it to him. -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Craig Wensley Sent: October 31, 2014 3:51 PM To: 'Scott Janzen'; ''Friends of Triumph' Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] 2015 Kastner Cup What no 8s -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Scott Janzen Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 1:31 PM To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] 2015 Kastner Cup thanks for the responses! We're already up to 27 cars/drivers, with a great mix of cars, just from the FOT response. Keep 'em coming! So far, the breakdown is roughly nine Spitfires (great turn-out), 5-6 GT6s, eight TR4s, two TR3s, two TR6s and two TR250s. There are other Triumph racers who usually show that aren't on the FOT list, so I think we're headed for a great turn-out. Start working on your cars now so we won't be beaten by equipment - I know I need to! I'll try to cut down on the promotional emails for awhile, but I am asking for someone to coordinate the t-shirt order process. We have the design and a supplier, and it's too early to actually start taking orders, but I'd like to get this one off my plate. Any volunteers? Jason, I'm going to flag this for your benefit - Jim Dolan is planning on entering three historic GT6s: 1972 GT6 (Brian Fuerstenau original Group 44 car) 1972 GT6 (Kas Kastner's original car) 1969 GT6 (Harvey Thompson9s original car) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/wensley_tr@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/macdonaldp@rogers.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 14:36:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E755725844F0 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 14:36:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f172.google.com (mail-ie0-f172.google.com [209.85.223.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649F625806BC for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 14:24:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f172.google.com with SMTP id at20so2069058iec.3 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 13:28:01 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:reply-to:sensitivity:importance :subject:to:from:date:content-type:mime-version; bh=s4XbomI4QpqTKYdMo4jwGHC6r+gyOfhbV7o5840gNkc=; b=CrERH1niqkm4WdiGYfZI/oEGw9jz/pRMYSB5HZrnGllW6cOw0zR2xBU1l7HpcDwpSg QwJ4KxQtxN2YPkmG19Hjzpfa5gMEUqxEWHqapGDeeqwO0ej21KU8LRn6jef6VSvNUC1+ OUwhGZj4akQDoRZsjl4zaK5VCdATnY/JUPfwP2LmZn02r0Ex0E3mbGMDofZDLqYu6rEO vIlUR2rYTr4El2IKWnegydjuNHWSEpyCq+Wi9oCucuVPVMHIy0lXfcM+zKcOIaq8fEn+ 232CcrI1tuT/N65I7hbvh2awsBhSJOL3U9JVnJK8RP/fwvQ/OTw0KxdGj8NepIWiFhTz 00Ug== lr10mr7051428igb.32.1414787281299; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 13:28:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.190 (bda-74-82-80-161.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.161]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ki5sm1236201igb.2.2014.10.31.13.28.00 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 31 Oct 2014 13:28:00 -0700 (PDT) Sensitivity: Normal To: "Jim Gray" ,"Fot" ,"Fot" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 20:27:55 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] Beer & beautiful weather in Austin Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sweet! Wish i was there. have one for me. ------Original Message------ From: Jim Gray To: Fot Subject: [Fot] Beer & beautiful weather in Austin Sent: Oct 31, 2014 1:10 PM Are there any FoT at the track today? Jim g Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 14:36:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A5B2584503 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 14:36:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f171.google.com (mail-ig0-f171.google.com [209.85.213.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB52F25844EE for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 14:36:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f171.google.com with SMTP id hl2so1675376igb.4 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 13:39:25 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :references:in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date :content-type:mime-version; bh=CWO3qOsbTfBFpOuoIDAvWBk9bT2hxYoW4trKeJ8/OXg=; b=FqBo6qxvmbYmosuvRBlLBooFiWXVA0d/JnO41/1bPSi17so+lXHCKB9DGWt0LOwvSe VLRxSNnUyTo86N8MEt6P6dzj+IHqlhDYZTUIYkver2lkEmPWmHWmLBlG48Fzs3q6u6c0 81enGZQGvdHOkXr9I+SRHFSu0AQoOag37GpjxO2fqoXfWeCHtRTIC2On/xFIoMeLna3j Evnsi1HRaNUZiJ5Zqov3rYxRnBd5FOAF31SnhTJWEkYSri2+hgJulRp3/xUZZsr9tEoJ +pCw6eG8ic5YPYiYR2Dt5j+Bff2QjrIDD69jpSf8Q28uL3IM9tPttU+Pn0b1cBYyhpiB EBMQ== vl1mr7149553igb.48.1414787965666; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 13:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.190 (bda-74-82-80-161.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.161]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o130sm5690061ioo.42.2014.10.31.13.39.24 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 31 Oct 2014 13:39:25 -0700 (PDT) References: <8CC903E2-D38A-4B39-9280-A1DD549D93F6@me.com> Sensitivity: Normal To: "Scott Janzen" ,"Fot" ,"Fot" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 20:39:18 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] 2015 Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Man that GT6 news is awesome! It will make that win all the more sweet! Bring it on! I can't wait. Kids, sorry trick or treating is off, I have to get out to the garage an start building motors... Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Scott Janzen To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] 2015 Kastner Cup thanks for the responses! We're already up to 27 cars/drivers, with a great mix of cars, just from the FOT response. Keep 'em coming! So far, the breakdown is roughly nine Spitfires (great turn-out), 5-6 GT6s, eight TR4s, two TR3s, two TR6s and two TR250s. There are other Triumph racers who usually show that aren't on the FOT list, so I think we're headed for a great turn-out. Start working on your cars now so we won't be beaten by equipment - I know I need to! I'll try to cut down on the promotional emails for awhile, but I am asking for someone to coordinate the t-shirt order process. We have the design and a supplier, and it's too early to actually start taking orders, but I'd like to get this one off my plate. Any volunteers? Jason, I'm going to flag this for your benefit - Jim Dolan is planning on entering three historic GT6s: 1972 GT6 (Brian Fuerstenau original Group 44 car) 1972 GT6 (Kas Kastner's original car) 1969 GT6 (Harvey Thompson9s original car) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 18:07:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615BC2580A68 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 18:07:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C52C2580764 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:58:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFEF22C0147 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 18:01:47 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 18:01:46 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: 'FOT' References: <000601cff498$cf44e980$6dcebc80$@rr.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2015 Host Hotel - Jefferson 500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I certainly would like to be there, hopefully I'll get some sort of gainful employment soon and actually have some money coming in to save for the trip. Anyone need a Linux sys admin? Personal chef? Mechanic? mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 18:22:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E70A258455B for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 18:22:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648CF2580782 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 18:12:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f169.google.com with SMTP id p9so1239972lbv.14 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:15:23 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Bcdc/So/9ItNdMSb5cqYbLBdvS1ZrWUYg+bfF0nYxtY=; b=kJY8nQ/I1tPtZWrCLjeghsS6UgjEig8wKHI2jSxoDYOOx3JyKp6ocGarI3Tapa1PEN KXPgLAA4HRwegdkSfGSyRXtM7jiVH5HD1Bq8GGxC3WN0+etxRugeURx38ZV1BBMPCsEj q5ake3op4jHTg+4DsEHuwo/7lCj3k55ZIT0SOx93F/D0aPUUvWoZrE89w502YX9sVQLv K83eyI3paWkVuYlgl2Weoat8m6Tk2O40pyBc849imRaY+8BUCB0IQvXatTNixQEdPAqO 4MnkfACL9RO4N6830fiJI2ZcaCNoF5eBLpRg3jO7vy1mRSC0gwub7fAtjdzDgjGmIJFP HIvw== i3mr29961400lbd.72.1414800923062; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.4.98 with HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:15:23 -0700 (PDT) References: <8CC903E2-D38A-4B39-9280-A1DD549D93F6@me.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 20:15:23 -0400 From: "J.C. Hassall" To: Scott Janzen Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] 2015 Kastner Cup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I just reserved a room. My autox TR4 isn't long-legged enough for a 4 hour drive, so I'll be motoring in my Saturn, filled with T-shirts. If anyone needs crew help, I'm free. jim 63 TR4 in autox trim, 99.9% finished, 90% to go. On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Scott Janzen wrote: > thanks for the responses! We're already up to 27 cars/drivers, with a > great > mix of cars, just from the FOT response. Keep 'em coming! > So far, the breakdown is roughly nine Spitfires (great turn-out), 5-6 GT6s, > eight TR4s, two TR3s, two TR6s and two TR250s. There are other Triumph > racers who usually show that aren't on the FOT list, so I think we're > headed > for a great turn-out. Start working on your cars now so we won't be > beaten by > equipment - I know I need to! > > I'll try to cut down on the promotional emails for awhile, but I am asking > for > someone to coordinate the t-shirt order process. We have the design and a > supplier, and it's too early to actually start taking orders, but I'd like > to > get this one off my plate. Any volunteers? > > Jason, I'm going to flag this for your benefit - Jim Dolan is planning on > entering three historic GT6s: > > 1972 GT6 (Brian Fuerstenau original Group 44 car) > 1972 GT6 (Kas Kastner's original car) > 1969 GT6 (Harvey Thompson9s original car) > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhassall@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive