From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 3 19:16:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0FF12584588 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2014 19:16:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9869F258068A for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2014 19:07:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-po-18v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.242]) by resqmta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id BE9U1p0095E3ZMc01EAcXg; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 02:10:36 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([24.22.75.60]) by resomta-po-18v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id BEAb1p00N1J37AG01EAcAs; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 02:10:36 +0000 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2014 18:10:36 -0800 From: Jim Norlin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <20141023033303.0BDCD2580B2E@autox.team.net> s=q20140121; t=1415067036; bh=BOQtAIWfD91iC0bVWAf8ZLdLyXTSq9nB7PfpB1tduxA=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=vGlSngqCkL4UMa7khtXcE9ZjqhdGbvs99jSNZGJDaEPMxK3RFaASVuKzCcsShtvlS tUDPqfdlJNifQyoJl1IhQCD2T5ywzJM3OU/Lqw6+fdLJ1rogDf0pAtWqb2C6bj4v6M 1D++bx5dvBP2FvZJZQFOF2MY8TBoeOqj1PzIzZSufEmWDopQy2gXWe9BWDLQhrGZNE mOvtUFfONhCTzFC16EzI4se/MXm6RgocfN58LLRrYXdD1d6Kol4wrUGQYWaSKp4mSu LBjQDVKHLHLjj2RYML4OOSSC/NqcAZ7sYgcQTfYjubM3/nEaylGSrxSnyCJHUVC/oQ 2ZBSzzrI2negA== Subject: Re: [Fot] Working insane amounts of time to run a particular stint (of much less time) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Catching up on old e-mails. Back in the '80's I had a sports racer I built out of a Titan Formula Ford. I had a friend that came over every Saturday and worked on the car with me, year round. Not counting the time it took to build the car in the first place, I once calculated that we spent 100 man hours on the car for every hour on track. Can't do a similar comparison on the Spit, since I'm no longer building engines or gearboxes, but I do know my dad used to spend a lot of time in front of the tv with his golf clubs and polish. On 10/22/2014 8:14 PM, jason@multivintage.com wrote: > Perhaps I've used this anology before... But Imageine "getting your golf clubs ready" for an hour or two round of Golf. > There is Not exactly a correlation in Hell that could get someone to understand what it takes to run well and win in amature racing. The time, and what it takes to never be beaten by equipment let alone win. > Crap! I've rebuilt half the car since my last outing and now i'm faced with a leakin hole where the threads (used to be) in the front sealing block at the lower (just kind of hanging there) bolt that holds on the lowest part of the front timing cover. > Seriously? > The bolt just spins on a never ending cycle to no grab, and is leaking. > I've got not enough time to fix it proper before thIs weekend so I overly coated the bolt with locktite (which will likely do nothing as there is nothing to lock tight). And broke out the red RTV (does that count for points for or against an effort to not be beaten by equipment?) > And Coated the hell out of it; 1/4" deep... > As a bad latex diaper. > Any way, I've also got this strange interuptive miss or short that is really pissing me off. Perhaps its a short or ground fault in the region of the starter button (which seems to work when in wants or perhaps not), or a bad contact on the kill switch? Then again it could be points, coil, cap, rotor, condenser,etc. > So, In panic we ordered 2 of every Mallory item that fits our gt6 (and other 4.2 Liter Jaguars) > Sure hope that one of those parts and my surgeon like use of an emrey board onto every point of grouned electrical electrical contact works. > Because I am running out of days to complete the race prep for this all impotantant 80 minute race at Blackhawk Farms this weekend. > > This is a big race for us midwesterners > The Loooong Race ( a Midwestern Council Classic) > These FoT madmen will be driving > The vintage group which has 41 cars set to race... One class for all the marbles! > Tony drews TR4 > Sean alexander TR4 > Scott barr Spitfire > Brian Garcia (plymoth baracuda) > Jason Ostrowski GT6 > Glade Snodgrass Spitfire (fp) > > Who will it be that takes this victory? > > Jason Ostrowski > Friendly Ghost Racing > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/norlinengineering@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 4 11:34:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC607258502C for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 11:34:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35039258088C for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 11:24:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.99.30] (c-68-80-11-16.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [68.80.11.16]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NEJ00JGR1Y9NJ10@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 18:27:47 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-11-04_08:2014-11-04,2014-11-04,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1408290000 definitions=main-1411040163 From: Scott Janzen Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 13:28:07 -0500 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] TR4/6 Transmission, Catastrophic failure Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I had a freshly rebuilt transmission with mostly new parts, including a new close ratio gear set, fail spectacularly after only a few laps of use. Second gear "welded" itself onto the mainshaft, with the result that the gearbox was effectively in two gears at the same time (car was under power in third gear) and all of the teeth were stripped off of the 2nd gear set. The gearbox was filled with fresh Redline MTL (75-90) - it was still filled well above the side fill plug when I took the top off the box. What could cause this failure - chalk it up to a defective bushing? The bushing was steel (?), not the bronze variety. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 4 14:20:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB1025845CA for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 14:20:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.166]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0D162580041 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 14:17:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.231]) by resqmta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id BZKi1p0024zp9eg01ZMCVn; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 21:21:12 +0000 Received: from [10.8.233.87] ([166.171.251.110]) by resomta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id BZM01p00L2PgJge01ZM3M0; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 21:21:10 +0000 References: <0E2FA952-9DDA-43B2-B723-87447E67B00E@me.com> From: Jeff Durant Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 13:19:53 -0800 To: Scott Janzen s=q20140121; t=1415136072; bh=5dj4Zxk00bpdefnnj6cHi2IK6cpkTPUegojAzxdsxVw=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=jKaSWs72WHeEqdxYYIHFVH+lGRXEh9UbKbDJHHaMoTkPdrEfFnQwsDUXENJxlBe1h JUexclwCUOHmGF4WYjnglmca8sry3O4gR6TIA4xHl1d3GkEwi+r9VMpTtIv2o7fdSd RH36jb4SQ+1A9jYcFkKz4NAw4XI/8ir5mmN1zScNli1UvvW/qxBeFN0Gfusx6rcKG5 ITNkiDtMjbT1wKWf+zqt9fy5F2wPefsTY1Rib8VFp9fHADfiKMU6yOjs08vXUBdBl3 HlMe9Pem/mIkB/ZVFW553GpXkkGw1begnnBeHc71KqYw6+nGaDDGjIn71UUhskyPv3 +OqLDacwEOKeA== Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4/6 Transmission, Catastrophic failure Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Scott, Was the MS 2nd gear steel bush the stock "top hat" version or the 2 piece version (bush and thrust washer)? I ask because I've found the steel bushing and thrust washer offered as an upgrade for the earlier MS 2nd gear have some running clearance issues. Specifically, the OD of the bush is very tight when fitted to MS 2nd gear in some cases. I just built a CR TR box using the 2 piece steel bush/washer arrangement from Rimmer Bros. and had to polish both the OD of the bush and ID of 2nd gear to gain an acceptable level of clearance for adequate lubrication. The bush ID to mainshaft was good after minor deburring and polish. Had I not done so, I'm certain it would have seized resulting in a failure similar to what you have experienced. As a general rule, I spend lots of time deburring and polishing the mainshaft, bushes and all gears before final clean and assembly. So far, no catastrophic trans failures! Now if I just had better syncros. Regards, Jeff Durant TR4a/250/6 and #12 TR6 Sent from my iPhone On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Scott Janzen wrote: > I had a freshly rebuilt transmission with mostly new parts, including a new > close ratio gear set, fail spectacularly after only a few laps of use. Second > gear "welded" itself onto the mainshaft, with the result that the gearbox was > effectively in two gears at the same time (car was under power in third gear) > and all of the teeth were stripped off of the 2nd gear set. > > The gearbox was filled with fresh Redline MTL (75-90) - it was still filled > well above the side fill plug when I took the top off the box. What could > cause this failure - chalk it up to a defective bushing? The bushing was > steel (?), not the bronze variety. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeff_durant@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 4 14:21:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1C125844E1 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 14:21:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173025pub.verizon.net (vms173025pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BACE25844D2 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 14:21:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from new-host.home ([98.117.90.163]) by vms173025.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NEJ00AHSA61C310@vms173025.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 15:25:14 -0600 (CST) a=AR1dG/TeJCF0fX33BA8WKQ==:117 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=YPhRza66Y0jdrF543G8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 From: Dean Tetterton Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 16:25:13 -0500 References: <0E2FA952-9DDA-43B2-B723-87447E67B00E@me.com> To: Scott Janzen Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4/6 Transmission, Catastrophic failure Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I would say that there was not enough clearance in the 2nd gear bushing and the 2nd gear play. I have gotten new 2nd gear bushings that are too tight on the shaft. I have opened them up with a brake cylinder hone. The oil needs clearance to get in. They should turn freely when installed on the shaft. Dean T. On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Scott Janzen wrote: > I had a freshly rebuilt transmission with mostly new parts, including a new > close ratio gear set, fail spectacularly after only a few laps of use. Second > gear "welded" itself onto the main shaft, with the result that the gearbox was > effectively in two gears at the same time (car was under power in third gear) > and all of the teeth were stripped off of the 2nd gear set. > > The gearbox was filled with fresh Redline MTL (75-90) - it was still filled > well above the side fill plug when I took the top off the box. What could > cause this failure - chalk it up to a defective bushing? The bushing was > steel (?), not the bronze variety. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr3a58@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 4 14:35:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E2525846FF for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 14:35:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com (omr-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA4CE25844E1 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 14:24:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-maa01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-maa01.mx.aol.com [172.26.222.143]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 78136703AD704; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 16:27:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-lga08g.mail.aol.com (core-lga08.mail.aol.com [10.76.11.8]) by mtaomg-maa01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4618538000081; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 16:27:59 -0500 (EST) References: <0E2FA952-9DDA-43B2-B723-87447E67B00E@me.com> <5F805AF4-0803-4084-9AE0-3D3B4D0B3BC4@comcast.net> To: jeff_durant@comcast.net, sjanzen@me.com Received: from 98.77.33.233 by webmail-va075.sysops.aol.com (149.174.102.83) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 04 Nov 2014 16:27:58 -0500 From: fubog1 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 16:27:58 -0500 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1415136479; bh=i22GOAoiwQbUgLPKOqz+Y4lSW2Trz8a70rxtmRFCoto=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ziGLQAlhHvlDLDrrFwcCEh6wTq0RveySeNzygCtvmioU5ervk9gGGhxc0X6bz9Z7d vO6PZwHbisHrz4YhZH7e3bNsnFKFSJK0My1bSJq6BZ5D+L3SU5sQbLg5N+guJEgKgI DITRpq1swATEGMOMmPxW2W0t/Dgl8h2NQrFAzUS4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1ade8f545944df3937 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4/6 Transmission, Catastrophic failure Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net +1 I polish the bushes for clearance as well. Glen -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Durant To: Scott Janzen Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Sent: Tue, Nov 4, 2014 4:23 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4/6 Transmission, Catastrophic failure Scott, Was the MS 2nd gear steel bush the stock "top hat" version or the 2 piece version (bush and thrust washer)? I ask because I've found the steel bushing and thrust washer offered as an upgrade for the earlier MS 2nd gear have some running clearance issues. Specifically, the OD of the bush is very tight when fitted to MS 2nd gear in some cases. I just built a CR TR box using the 2 piece steel bush/washer arrangement from Rimmer Bros. and had to polish both the OD of the bush and ID of 2nd gear to gain an acceptable level of clearance for adequate lubrication. The bush ID to mainshaft was good after minor deburring and polish. Had I not done so, I'm certain it would have seized resulting in a failure similar to what you have experienced. As a general rule, I spend lots of time deburring and polishing the mainshaft, bushes and all gears before final clean and assembly. So far, no catastrophic trans failures! Now if I just had better syncros. Regards, Jeff Durant TR4a/250/6 and #12 TR6 Sent from my iPhone On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Scott Janzen wrote: > I had a freshly rebuilt transmission with mostly new parts, including a new > close ratio gear set, fail spectacularly after only a few laps of use. Second > gear "welded" itself onto the mainshaft, with the result that the gearbox was > effectively in two gears at the same time (car was under power in third gear) > and all of the teeth were stripped off of the 2nd gear set. > > The gearbox was filled with fresh Redline MTL (75-90) - it was still filled > well above the side fill plug when I took the top off the box. What could > cause this failure - chalk it up to a defective bushing? The bushing was > steel (?), not the bronze variety. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeff_durant@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 4 14:36:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A54C32584819 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 14:36:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 974B025844D2 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 14:34:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.102]) by resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id BZb51p0082D5gil01ZdcVd; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 21:37:36 +0000 Received: from [100.87.148.123] ([70.194.145.211]) by resomta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id BZdM1p00G4Zt4jq01ZdQfA; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 21:37:34 +0000 References: <0E2FA952-9DDA-43B2-B723-87447E67B00E@me.com> From: Brian Garcia Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 15:37:20 -0600 To: Dean Tetterton s=q20140121; t=1415137056; bh=n/2+yQpnUTprLrI6/d5JCUKd0KCsmPb2Nwih8LDiKxQ=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=kzDeTLfydvCiLNdXYlkAjNCCv+Fol7Kf/nZKj0/mxcgJfcQQbOn1qMhEpkFmlyUg7 KaNjleR4UjFMggB082srcz24rS3aWrQ5ra67AcaYz0DppHdWC1L1uHTwQMal0NzXxm lnYA8se7zGcJKb0Po4fw/FL5WEBHKNYOZvxQ7k5Lonf1jv2Eh6BpE0kJ1Co9D/ReEo zM7k0+5F7Y/k/I8kYTYWNQCmyYYV1JnBf/wpbM+kNArD3no1tj7g83wsQ21vWxURXz LHWh5tQ12q+QpDkFa1lA0tX2U3V/2w1kqfd2LtnwFTohIqjeXpcwlpXLr1pIak+s26 lTxFcxIcVKjCw== Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4/6 Transmission, Catastrophic failure Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Concur - I had this happen in two laps at Road America with a Muncie - aftermarket gear didn't have proper clearance and the result was a friction weld to the shaft. Brian Garcia Friendly Ghost Racing > On Nov 4, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Dean Tetterton wrote: > > I would say that there was not enough clearance in the 2nd gear bushing > and the > 2nd gear play. I have gotten new 2nd gear bushings that are too tight > on the shaft. I have opened them up with a brake cylinder hone. The oil > needs clearance to get in. They should turn freely when installed on the > shaft. > > > Dean T. > > >> On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Scott Janzen wrote: >> >> I had a freshly rebuilt transmission with mostly new parts, including a new >> close ratio gear set, fail spectacularly after only a few laps of use. > Second >> gear "welded" itself onto the main shaft, with the result that the gearbox > was >> effectively in two gears at the same time (car was under power in third > gear) >> and all of the teeth were stripped off of the 2nd gear set. >> >> The gearbox was filled with fresh Redline MTL (75-90) - it was still > filled >> well above the side fill plug when I took the top off the box. What could >> cause this failure - chalk it up to a defective bushing? The bushing was >> steel (?), not the bronze variety. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr3a58@verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cudapilot@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 4 17:54:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33BCD2584875 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 17:54:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p02c12o144.mxlogic.net (p02c12o144.mxlogic.net [208.65.145.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9FE825802AF for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 17:46:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO ATLPEXCAS02.xc.lan) by p02c12o144.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.2.0-0) with ESMTP id 12479545.2b419b82b940.86780.00-595.234735.p02c12o144.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Tue, 04 Nov 2014 17:49:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO ATLPEXCAS02.xc.lan) by p02c12o144.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.2.0-0) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id 10479545.0.86620.00-317.234358.p02c12o144.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Tue, 04 Nov 2014 17:49:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::c824:a29e:45a5:b81c]) by ATLPEXCAS02.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 19:48:53 -0500 From: John Hasty To: Jeff Durant Thread-Topic: [Fot] TR4/6 Transmission, Catastrophic failure Thread-Index: AQHP+F5+r2oA2nFLg063Wz2Y5bpUiJxRTTqA///mkmw= Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 00:48:52 +0000 References: <0E2FA952-9DDA-43B2-B723-87447E67B00E@me.com>, <5F805AF4-0803-4084-9AE0-3D3B4D0B3BC4@comcast.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US a=VR8QHrWKYhK80xkEBGCjUg==] a=kj9] a=YlVTAMxI] a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 ] a=0JxEJVpd2e17VJ] a=J0aUVQLP0F] Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4/6 Transmission, Catastrophic failure Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net 10-4 on better syncros... Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 4, 2014, at 4:23 PM, "Jeff Durant" wrote: > > Scott, > Was the MS 2nd gear steel bush the stock "top hat" version or the 2 piece > version (bush and thrust washer)? I ask because I've found the steel bushing > and thrust washer offered as an upgrade for the earlier MS 2nd gear have some > running clearance issues. Specifically, the OD of the bush is very tight when > fitted to MS 2nd gear in some cases. > I just built a CR TR box using the 2 piece steel bush/washer arrangement from > Rimmer Bros. and had to polish both the OD of the bush and ID of 2nd gear to > gain an acceptable level of clearance for adequate lubrication. The bush ID > to mainshaft was good after minor deburring and polish. Had I not done so, I'm > certain it would have seized resulting in a failure similar to what you have > experienced. > As a general rule, I spend lots of time deburring and polishing the mainshaft, > bushes and all gears before final clean and assembly. So far, no catastrophic > trans failures! Now if I just had better syncros. > > Regards, > Jeff Durant > TR4a/250/6 and #12 TR6 > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Scott Janzen wrote: >> >> I had a freshly rebuilt transmission with mostly new parts, including a new >> close ratio gear set, fail spectacularly after only a few laps of use. > Second >> gear "welded" itself onto the mainshaft, with the result that the gearbox > was >> effectively in two gears at the same time (car was under power in third > gear) >> and all of the teeth were stripped off of the 2nd gear set. >> >> The gearbox was filled with fresh Redline MTL (75-90) - it was still > filled >> well above the side fill plug when I took the top off the box. What could >> cause this failure - chalk it up to a defective bushing? The bushing was >> steel (?), not the bronze variety. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeff_durant@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 4 18:24:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028BA2584875 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 18:24:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p01c12o142.mxlogic.net (p01c12o142.mxlogic.net [208.65.145.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB6B72580792 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 17:55:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO ATLPEXCAS02.xc.lan) by p01c12o142.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.2.0-0) with ESMTP id e4679545.2ab530e1a940.22025.00-533.57148.p01c12o142.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Tue, 04 Nov 2014 17:58:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO ATLPEXCAS02.xc.lan) by p01c12o142.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.2.0-0) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id 7d579545.0.21328.00-337.55559.p01c12o142.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Tue, 04 Nov 2014 17:56:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::c824:a29e:45a5:b81c]) by ATLPEXCAS02.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 19:56:42 -0500 From: John Hasty To: Scott Janzen Thread-Topic: [Fot] TR4/6 Transmission, Catastrophic failure Thread-Index: AQHP+F5+r2oA2nFLg063Wz2Y5bpUiJxRNf0E Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 00:56:42 +0000 References: <0E2FA952-9DDA-43B2-B723-87447E67B00E@me.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US a=VR8QHrWKYhK80xkEBGCjUg==] a=kj9] a=YlVTAMxI] a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 ] a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:] Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4/6 Transmission, Catastrophic failure Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Gee whiz Scott, reading you GT6 guys woes makes me think the TR3's were the most reliable Triumphs made. Now, if I could only find a head gasket that will last more than one race! Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:38 PM, "Scott Janzen" wrote: > > I had a freshly rebuilt transmission with mostly new parts, including a new > close ratio gear set, fail spectacularly after only a few laps of use. Second > gear "welded" itself onto the mainshaft, with the result that the gearbox was > effectively in two gears at the same time (car was under power in third gear) > and all of the teeth were stripped off of the 2nd gear set. > > The gearbox was filled with fresh Redline MTL (75-90) - it was still filled > well above the side fill plug when I took the top off the box. What could > cause this failure - chalk it up to a defective bushing? The bushing was > steel (?), not the bronze variety. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 4 19:24:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD232584887 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 19:24:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2745A2580313 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 18:57:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.90.164.157] (mobile-166-171-056-180.mycingular.net [166.171.56.180]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NEJ006XIMX9EN40@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 05 Nov 2014 02:00:47 +0000 (GMT) From: SCOTT JANZEN Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 21:00:45 -0500 References: <0E2FA952-9DDA-43B2-B723-87447E67B00E@me.com> To: John Hasty engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-11-05_01:2014-11-04,2014-11-04,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1408290000 definitions=main-1411050020 Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4/6 Transmission, Catastrophic failure Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hey, with a transmission swap on Friday (thanks, Rich Rock), I still raced Saturday and Sunday! Sent from my mobile device > On Nov 4, 2014, at 7:56 PM, John Hasty wrote: > > Gee whiz Scott, reading you GT6 guys woes makes me think the TR3's were the most reliable Triumphs made. Now, if I could only find a head gasket that will last more than one race! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:38 PM, "Scott Janzen" wrote: >> >> I had a freshly rebuilt transmission with mostly new parts, including a new >> close ratio gear set, fail spectacularly after only a few laps of use. Second >> gear "welded" itself onto the mainshaft, with the result that the gearbox was >> effectively in two gears at the same time (car was under power in third gear) >> and all of the teeth were stripped off of the 2nd gear set. >> >> The gearbox was filled with fresh Redline MTL (75-90) - it was still filled >> well above the side fill plug when I took the top off the box. What could >> cause this failure - chalk it up to a defective bushing? The bushing was >> steel (?), not the bronze variety. >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 6 15:02:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA34E2580BB7 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 15:02:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8767A2580470 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 14:37:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.99.30] (c-68-80-11-16.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [68.80.11.16]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NEN001P3081V330@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 21:40:51 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-11-06_07:2014-11-06,2014-11-06,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1408290000 definitions=main-1411060169 From: Scott Janzen Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 16:41:13 -0500 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Trying to reach Daniel Fowoer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If you are on this list, please contact me off-line. Thanks! Scott Janzen sjanzen@me.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 6 16:19:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7BF2584553 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 16:19:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07DEF25802EA for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 15:59:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([71.116.36.193]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NEN000XL4069L70@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 17:02:32 -0600 (CST) a=dgAzUI+lILTWfq/CSWBZ6Q==:117 a=IJ9pWlWUkYEA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=BvKqdfBJG8vrbBtXp1kA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=kd0U3a_UnA4A:10 a=DwTt-j_1LuYA:10 a=42HhAqszwhMA:10 a=gvfBO2VpoByw3OXV:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 From: "Bill Tobin" To: Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 18:02:28 -0500 Subject: [Fot] celebrity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi All, the newest issue of Vintage Motorsport just arrived. On page 111 is a great photo of our own Michael Moore in his TR4 at Schenley Park running the PVGP. Great shot. No mention of the wife, kids, parents, or dogs, but nice looking car. Nicely done Mike! Cheers, Bill _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 6 17:04:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4569B25846BF for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 17:04:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC15825803FC for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 16:41:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-mbe01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mbe01.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.173]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B9DE3703CFAD5; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 18:44:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [75.114.168.211]) by mtaout-mbe01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id 045353800009C; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 18:44:44 -0500 (EST) To: "=?utf-8?B?QmlsbCBUb2Jpbg==?=" ,fot@autox.team.net From: "=?utf-8?B?cmVrNDZAYW9sLmNvbQ==?=" Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 18:44:45 -0500 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1415317485; bh=tVxqrK4WD1KGM0awT06ggN19r94QnasLTDr3s1yuRA0=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TtEpUGWBRS9dJR+ckXJhaSnMlVFiiH6DjUJ23Vd6/tVLoIfaL37/hVP+8ARhp45ht jW6g9aqfVHlPyDf/vqvvGMWbk3AwI1iqcIyWJ3XIpbV/TehVn1RPqMlgG4Qn9QBBYh zM+IKGzLGgJLEbtCMbMOiKpbZtgyMZf7vaOkraYo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afead545c07ec3961 Subject: Re: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?celebrity?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Nice new driver suit.....shud send u a pic of Ryan with the old one.....rick Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint! ----- Reply message ----- From: "Bill Tobin" Date: Thu, Nov 6, 2014 6:02 pm Subject: [Fot] celebrity To: Hi All, the newest issue of Vintage Motorsport just arrived. On page 111 is a great photo of our own Michael Moore in his TR4 at Schenley Park running the PVGP. Great shot. No mention of the wife, kids, parents, or dogs, but nice looking car. Nicely done Mike! Cheers, Bill _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 6 19:50:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F6D225855E4 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 19:50:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6DC258535E for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 19:28:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([71.116.36.193]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NEN00JBYDPD1590@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 20:32:02 -0600 (CST) a=dgAzUI+lILTWfq/CSWBZ6Q==:117 a=IJ9pWlWUkYEA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=SQFAAVeqFkcwNvYt804A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=0JD8lBjOHJIA:10 a=oKq-I8Na0DIA:10 a=wKMmRXxKrGWry6d71AkA:9 a=gvfBO2VpoByw3OXV:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 From: "Bill Tobin" To: Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 21:31:59 -0500 Subject: [Fot] VM Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi again, in addition to Mike Moore's picture in Vintage Motorsport, there was a very good article about James Garner. Also there was a very touching article written by Brock Yates. Very well written and heartfelt. Peace, Bill _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 7 12:44:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78C625857CA for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 12:44:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E21D2584A1C for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 12:22:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.104]) by resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id CjQb1p0062Fh1PH01jSLQS; Fri, 07 Nov 2014 19:26:20 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-503v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.178.3]) by resomta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id CjSL1p00J04nC6y01jSLqj; Fri, 07 Nov 2014 19:26:20 +0000 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 19:26:19 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Bill Tobin References: <9D2AA0EA82B045D99C8823EE2C75AA90@hpd530> Thread-Topic: celebrity Thread-Index: 78oHWjCXiPKSLBiRt/23WfYGTw6D0w== s=q20140121; t=1415388380; bh=7lIpko6YQInwA7OQ8Dclb2lg9ZVv/DU7XZ0ACRxouaE=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=BwwZJwHF1qgZFKWWD7//FMmJ25G0g8f48Bs4VhKncnMULdOh+801juiKktONO7RnE 6jfrAOk9BKLpCEm4o9J9OTsUclo88W8i2jDBCkQoX40KiiNhiSMbZp4G2mjBdci88R CVmxICiYV5rTitOI7aKLFUuhexHyaqvcAuyZodM9BI1WRdQN/h6hK5knO09v82IYTp Po5OK354p+Q1/xKU2jbbTqGZIDSpI9vRzrOSfvTQpgR/HG4yysWBdIcRaZlYn+yio3 PvSboD/ZcqGENf/H4lXSLjMP5ftMkbPXCAHeBhD1gVi1V15pRbv6KOcMgW3wiP08nQ 0qJ+dJ2/PZZ3w== Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] celebrity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Indeed, nice job Mike. The added glory of a good weekend of racing... getting a photo printed in the glossy pages. Mike and his TR have accomplished this on a number of occasions now. October Victory lane page 46, at Grattan. I know Gary Horstkorta is proud to see his old car in action too. Is Jacki Amarosa, '59 TR3, VM page 110 a Friend of Triumph? Looks like another nice TR. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 3:02:28 PM Subject: [Fot] celebrity Hi All, the newest issue of Vintage Motorsport just arrived. On page 111 is a great photo of our own Michael Moore in his TR4 at Schenley Park running the PVGP. Great shot. No mention of the wife, kids, parents, or dogs, but nice looking car. Nicely done Mike! Cheers, Bill _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 8 10:35:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431062584B10 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 10:35:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy2-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy2-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.18.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8AB302584726 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 10:10:40 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 17813 invoked by uid 0); 8 Nov 2014 17:14:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO CMOut01) (10.0.90.82) by gproxy2.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2014 17:14:06 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by CMOut01 with id D5Dz1p00U1NzpT9015E2uv; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 10:14:05 -0700 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=xKNN2-QPwdZfkmXC8RAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=63472 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Xn9aK-0001UL-JY for fot@autox.team.net; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 10:14:00 -0700 Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 11:13:55 -0600 To: fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: [Fot] Non-Triumph but racing related... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat next to a guy on a flight back from Vegas who lives in Des Moines Iowa and has a rubber bumper MG Midget. He's interested in getting it running right, and doing some upgrades to it to make it faster / better handling. Also is interested in road racing but has never participated in that. I explained auto cross as a "gateway drug" idea. Anyway, looking for helpful suggestions for him in the following areas: 1. Someone in the Des Moines Iowa area that knows British cars and can get his Midget running right 2. Wondering if there's something like the FOT list for Midgets or MG's that I can suggest to him 3. Looking for connections to auto cross / vintage road racing in the Des Moines Iowa area If things work out, we could have another Vintage racer. He was a neat guy and also hosts a show on PBS in the area. Thanks in advance, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 8 11:05:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DBAD2584BC0 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 11:05:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bcs.bcshost.com (bcs.bcshost.com [192.254.176.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA272584A97 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 10:38:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from mail-oi0-f51.google.com ([209.85.218.51]:44780) by bcs.bcshost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1XnA1F-0003EX-9v for fot@autox.team.net; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 11:41:49 -0600 Received: by mail-oi0-f51.google.com with SMTP id g201so3760175oib.38 for ; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 09:41:47 -0800 (PST) l63mr15530962oif.13.1415468507842; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 09:41:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.240.107 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 09:41:47 -0800 (PST) References: <20141108173612.BB71B2584A33@autox.team.net> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 11:41:47 -0600 From: Joe Alexander To: Tony Drews with any abuse report joe@the-vintage-racer.com Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Non-Triumph but racing related... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I would suggest Shawn Frank. On Saturday, November 8, 2014, Tony Drews wrote: > Sat next to a guy on a flight back from Vegas who lives in Des Moines Iowa > and has a rubber bumper MG Midget. He's interested in getting it running > right, and doing some upgrades to it to make it faster / better handling. > Also is interested in road racing but has never participated in that. I > explained auto cross as a "gateway drug" idea. > > Anyway, looking for helpful suggestions for him in the following areas: > 1. Someone in the Des Moines Iowa area that knows British cars and can get > his Midget running right > 2. Wondering if there's something like the FOT list for Midgets or MG's > that I can suggest to him > 3. Looking for connections to auto cross / vintage road racing in the Des > Moines Iowa area > > If things work out, we could have another Vintage racer. He was a neat > guy and also hosts a show on PBS in the area. > > Thanks in advance, > Tony Drews > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/ > options/fot/joe@the-vintage-racer.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 8 12:52:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0693C2580884 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 12:52:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4DE2580801 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 12:23:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041602C0482 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 12:27:22 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 12:27:22 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <20141108173545.71DE42584AF7@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] Non-Triumph but racing related... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tony Drews wrote: > 2. Wondering if there's something like the FOT list for Midgets or MG's that I can suggest to him Folks, take a look at http://autox.team.net to get an idea of what is available. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 8 13:06:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62B925809D6 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 13:06:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8492580884 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 12:42:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A409C2C0482 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 12:46:09 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 12:46:09 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: FOT Subject: [Fot] And speaking of mailing lists... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net While mucking about with the server last night I shook loose a few thousand mailman admin messages that had gotten stuck in limbo. What fun. Most of them are of no consequence, but there are some legitimate requests for assistance with list issues from subscribers. So if you sent in something to mailman@... and never heard back from me, well, be patient, it will take me a while to get through it all. And I think the reason the messages were held back was due to a typo I made in a configuration file. With mistakes like that, no wonder I haven't gotten a raise in years mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 8 14:22:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F251E25849E1 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 14:22:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D720425808A5 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 13:57:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C0E2C0482 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 14:00:38 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 14:00:38 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <20141108173545.71DE42584AF7@autox.team.net> <545E6E9A.4020007@bradakis.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Non-Triumph but racing related... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That should have been http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo - the top level Team.Net page is a mess, with some pages still pointing to majordomo. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 8 18:08:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF002584ACD for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 18:08:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qproxy1-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (qproxy1-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [173.254.64.10]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C4B5F25809B4 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 17:48:21 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 23668 invoked by uid 0); 9 Nov 2014 00:51:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw4) (10.0.90.85) by qproxy1.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2014 00:51:49 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw4 with id DJXk1p00K1NzpT901JXnia; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 23:31:49 -0700 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=jJrOw3FHAAAA:8 a=uinDq5AOBIv7SmDDFgsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=FU4QsWcZpzsA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=50912 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XnGPw-0004ag-R6 for fot@autox.team.net; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 17:31:44 -0700 Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 18:31:40 -0600 To: fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: [Fot] In-car videos from the Looonng Race at Blackhawk, Oct. 25/26 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 8 20:54:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB4C2584B12 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 20:54:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from qproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (qproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [66.147.248.250]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6639C258457E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 20:28:13 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 15346 invoked by uid 0); 9 Nov 2014 03:31:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw3) (10.0.90.84) by qproxy4.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2014 03:31:41 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw3 with id DMBc1p00D1NzpT901MBf9K; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 02:11:41 -0700 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=jJrOw3FHAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=70NReNXZY84b5kjyI7IA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=FU4QsWcZpzsA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=52056 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XnIuf-00035s-8B for fot@autox.team.net; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 20:11:37 -0700 Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 21:11:32 -0600 To: fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews References: <20141109010841.90C3425849CA@autox.team.net> {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] In-car videos from the Looonng Race at Blackhawk, Oct. 25/26 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Good grief. Let me try pasting into Notepad and copying from there this time to strip out any inadvertent formatting. In-Car videos from the Looonng Race at Blackhawk Farms, 10/25 and 10/26 Race 1 - great dice with Sean Alexander at the beginning, edited out some boring laps, first approximately 10 minutes are fun to watch http://youtu.be/glFCoLmZhvo Race 2 - great dice with a yellow Porsche 914 until he dropped a cylinder, edited out some boring laps, first approximately 10 minutes are fun to watch http://youtu.be/SXYdBQyLXxk Race 3 - uneventful, I drove well, full length, best action is in the first lap http://youtu.be/WJlBwxe9Tdk Cheers, Tony Drews At 06:31 PM 11/8/2014, Tony Drews wrote: >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 9 14:02:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C425F2584B2E for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 14:02:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.33]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E483125808BB for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 13:38:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-ch2-02v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.98]) by resqmta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id DYhk1p00527uzMh01YhkyD; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 20:41:44 +0000 Received: from WalterPC ([68.35.52.228]) by resomta-ch2-02v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id DYhj1p00V4vR69801YhkG9; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 20:41:44 +0000 From: "Walter Hollowell" To: Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 13:41:43 -0700 thread-index: Ac/8XSl0l7sh3OLmRhe7s/vOkhebLQ== Content-Language: en-us s=q20140121; t=1415565704; bh=Z1wR/oumwkvYH2F2MSrlqBXYIcMvRtWHeZSyOg9Ewo4=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=bE86EN9KQBbFUTl+X7yL31np2zW3murpxd+uGfbvDwT5Lv2K2phcKkDpQPdYXOJRt Vo6Du+wtllh8GBIzqaSa3njDlwcbw3B7tGpJDjh4rWPZ6UDGMk8lgoZVTOqg3ZnabK c5SVdmhewt1Zsaf2rV7IwK2uygXp7scjUikY0aRFKsNZ1s5ND3s85++5dyBez8YWiR Ef5ojznL5CTX1n49whpDvsfxosac7nHbixERgBtLUJJeR/+KYZtRiqyIPBw8v8X9ls djIuAKo+phbh1EyVjNxjSHkX4NvKwlKfFFe9V42cuoH7ndOo0yGTTY70f8kw0qp/ha n7vya1xgZRLjg== Subject: [Fot] Spax Shocks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hello FOT members. The Spax adjustable shocks on my racing TR6 have been in place for six seasons and I'm think it is time to pay them some attention during the winter months. Does anyone know if these shocks can be rebuilt and if so where would that be? Thanks, Walter Hollowell Albuquerque, New Mexico _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 08:38:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FBBC2584AA9 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 08:38:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth03.mfg.siteprotect.com (smtpauth03h.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8672825807A2 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 08:36:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from [172.16.58.77] (unknown [74.124.40.40]) (Authenticated sender: don@dcphotos.com) by smtpauth03.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6298E18540 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:39:44 -0600 (CST) From: "don@dcphotos.com" Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:39:43 -0600 To: fot@autox.team.net reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: [Fot] Fuel Safe woe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have a leaky bladder Last night, I discovered a new puddle on the garage floor. The Fuel Safe bladder in my Spitfire has a small hole on the bottom corner. Before I buy a new one, I thought Id ask here first if anyone has an 8 gallon 20x12x8 fuel safe they might want to sell. I really dont want to cut the car to install a different size. >From what I could find in the FOT archive, trying to repairing the bladder isnt perhaps the best course of action. Thanks, Don DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY (512)-680-3540 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 08:53:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA8E22580BDC for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 08:53:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C21825807A2 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 08:53:18 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge03 smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [166.176.121.118] ([166.176.121.118:26440] helo=[10.147.249.85]) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 1E/EB-09396-0C132645; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 15:56:49 +0000 References: <96FECC0D-6365-40DC-A9A2-91B1D9D75C2F@dcphotos.com> From: Bob Kramer Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:56:47 -0600 To: "don@dcphotos.com" Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Safe woe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I think you can have them recent fief with a new bladder . Google and see. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:39 AM, "don@dcphotos.com" wrote: > > I have a leaky bladder > > Last night, I discovered a new puddle on the garage floor. > The Fuel Safe bladder in my Spitfire has a small hole on the bottom corner. > > Before I buy a new one, I thought Id ask here first if anyone has an > 8 gallon 20x12x8 fuel safe they might want to sell. > I really dont want to cut the car to install a different size. > > From what I could find in the FOT archive, trying to repairing the bladder > isnt perhaps the best course of action. > > Thanks, > Don > > DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY > (512)-680-3540 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 09:51:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7822584707 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:51:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2910825807A2 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:50:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from [67.255.13.17] ([67.255.13.17:54819] helo=Shop) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 44/87-18043-53F32645; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:54:13 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: , References: <96FECC0D-6365-40DC-A9A2-91B1D9D75C2F@dcphotos.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:55:12 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac/9xi0otSTMXyKDSUuY+pTiDS5XewACYzZg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Safe woe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Don, to the best of my awareness Fuel Safe does have bladders available for all size cells. You're correct, there is no SAFE repair for a leaky bladder. Depending on it's age you may want to replace the foam while you're at it. Not very expensive given the life of it. The metal shell comes apart easily to access the bladder. Best regards Russ Moore Spitfire #49 -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of don@dcphotos.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:40 AM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Fuel Safe woe I have a leaky bladder Last night, I discovered a new puddle on the garage floor. The Fuel Safe bladder in my Spitfire has a small hole on the bottom corner. Before I buy a new one, I thought Id ask here first if anyone has an 8 gallon 20x12x8 fuel safe they might want to sell. I really dont want to cut the car to install a different size. >From what I could find in the FOT archive, trying to repairing the bladder isnt perhaps the best course of action. Thanks, Don DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY (512)-680-3540 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 10:07:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D1F2584AA9 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 10:07:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7A925844D7 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 10:07:13 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge02 smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [166.176.123.208] ([166.176.123.208:44678] helo=[10.164.140.154]) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 6B/65-21900-41342645; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:10:45 +0000 References: <96FECC0D-6365-40DC-A9A2-91B1D9D75C2F@dcphotos.com> From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:10:43 -0600 To: "don@dcphotos.com" Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Safe woe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Google Depends. You asked for that. Greg > On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:39 AM, "don@dcphotos.com" wrote: > > I have a leaky bladder > > Last night, I discovered a new puddle on the garage floor. > The Fuel Safe bladder in my Spitfire has a small hole on the bottom corner. > > Before I buy a new one, I thought Id ask here first if anyone has an > 8 gallon 20x12x8 fuel safe they might want to sell. > I really dont want to cut the car to install a different size. > > From what I could find in the FOT archive, trying to repairing the bladder > isnt perhaps the best course of action. > > Thanks, > Don > > DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY > (512)-680-3540 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 10:35:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9631C2584B30 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 10:35:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth05.mfg.siteprotect.com (smtpauth15.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB1E2580991 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 10:34:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from [172.16.58.77] (unknown [74.124.40.40]) (Authenticated sender: don@dcphotos.com) by smtpauth05.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3C1991130AD94; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:37:46 -0600 (CST) From: "don@dcphotos.com" Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:37:45 -0600 References: <96FECC0D-6365-40DC-A9A2-91B1D9D75C2F@dcphotos.com> <5E5236C1-F84D-4642-8CAC-31E6ED2F488C@austin.rr.com> To: Greg & Alison Blake reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Safe woe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Greg, and if I google jackass I do remember you saying to me welcome to the money pit. it does seem a bit foreshadowing I have this hole I can fix, it if I just stick six hundred dollars into it. Don DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY (512)-680-3540 On Nov 11, 2014, at 11:10 AM, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: > Google Depends. > > > > You asked for that. > > Greg > > > >> On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:39 AM, "don@dcphotos.com" wrote: >> >> I have a leaky bladder >> >> Last night, I discovered a new puddle on the garage floor. >> The Fuel Safe bladder in my Spitfire has a small hole on the bottom corner. >> >> Before I buy a new one, I thought Id ask here first if anyone has an >> 8 gallon 20x12x8 fuel safe they might want to sell. >> I really dont want to cut the car to install a different size. >> >> From what I could find in the FOT archive, trying to repairing the bladder >> isnt perhaps the best course of action. >> >> Thanks, >> Don >> >> DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY >> (512)-680-3540 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 10:37:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA902584D18 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 10:37:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570552584BE9 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 10:37:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from [67.255.13.17] ([67.255.13.17:57204] helo=Shop) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 2D/EB-21900-62A42645; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:40:54 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: "'Greg And Alison Blake'" , References: <96FECC0D-6365-40DC-A9A2-91B1D9D75C2F@dcphotos.com> <5E5236C1-F84D-4642-8CAC-31E6ED2F488C@austin.rr.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:41:54 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac/90oMC0pZA1EuuQo62ADBWs4v0EgABCjdg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Safe woe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Needs more than Depends with a bladder that size!.................... russ -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg And Alison Blake Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:11 PM To: don@dcphotos.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Safe woe Google Depends. You asked for that. Greg > On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:39 AM, "don@dcphotos.com" wrote: > > I have a leaky bladder > > Last night, I discovered a new puddle on the garage floor. > The Fuel Safe bladder in my Spitfire has a small hole on the bottom corner. > > Before I buy a new one, I thought Id ask here first if anyone has an > 8 gallon 20x12x8 fuel safe they might want to sell. > I really dont want to cut the car to install a different size. > > From what I could find in the FOT archive, trying to repairing the > bladder isnt perhaps the best course of action. > > Thanks, > Don > > DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY > (512)-680-3540 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 11:10:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 161F42584D34 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:10:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm16.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm16.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEAC3258042C for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:10:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.196.81.156] by nm16.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2014 18:13:39 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.141] by tm2.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2014 18:13:39 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1017.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2014 18:13:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 61899 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Nov 2014 18:13:38 -0000 s=s1024; t=1415729618; bh=Lna4YvE75r7t9T2H10eTWIyeiePdrh1KPj2c+ZMs2HY=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=y6wpU4hp5EHkRJBHzdgoTylcjf53rTcIUBcdAg+FVRBMYHQo/DRcO9BFpp9nlCSF41i7kSuuzN7iF5STE95VemMnhvj2t+5nKIiIzdCzTCDGxH/ca0lGwau7H1gMvadk6XdyvqZf/8ZqwfbbDgidnFTKRRjHk9P6/3Qmvwc0Lxc= .3CiCCUmjwrlzVDmrHrtYHPcFzb7yEvSJdgQWRawqjya.oICzXKAqD6Frklv S.eBghDhuetIv9qukleDQ4BtXEtiuwpKm5u3UIqJ5nG9Z3lAi_IIXgtNwkn7 VSiQ1WdEezC54NHwsy9XI1cHljokjCmIsbn4wsMRyZT17pOi0p_Hj5EBxt37 rFKvQ0M2ejz2nda3VxtEt2bAbF3D3Kk43PdqMHuQsVFq2Jich6HVhvL44moF 2EMe0v2DdrlX7WIDVzWta1nwK8Mg_4qIvtPIB3b1q0xVkRd0LcYhV5HCL29d RU_0cuTo711RFRLG3GncinACp.GjhFiGjTdQNokRWeQd9FadKbr233l2APaH wNxrDUwwW5USEw8e9VnzvsL2cXb8pDdXF.9T8FeOSmx_fqF5Ber3vCzggsDh RLwvwEyWLfQeraJnm1r44C0Hyvf6xl8a6bqP0p31X.JioFxqmwTcM9K8yBdr AYoT7AsGQFcmbbdB8qwGGPltYaxG7edbZWlcM31hQeph7WcQ8Eb1lKAmNxSn v2Mrp7UU0bg_ojuEHrMzY2HXrVbJuLX3bd66xcBtekuvA.8I6btYHdBAJveW gCslplVVdn8IQfXZF Received: from [99.162.149.142] by web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 10:13:38 PST UmVwYWlycyBjYW4gYmUgZG9uZSBpZiB0aGUgYmxhZGRlciBpc24ndCB0b28gb2xkLiAgT3RoZXJ3aXNlIG5lZWRzIHRvIGJlIHJlcGxhY2VkLgpHb29nbGUKYWlyY3JhZnQgZnVlbCBibGFkZGVyIHJlcGFpcgoKYW5kIAoKYWlyY3JhZnQgZnVlbCBjZWxsIHJlcGFpciAKCgpPbiBUdWVzZGF5LCBOb3ZlbWJlciAxMSwgMjAxNCA3OjQyIEFNLCAiZG9uQGRjcGhvdG9zLmNvbSIgPGRvbkBkY3Bob3Rvcy5jb20.IHdyb3RlOgogIAoKCkkgaGF2ZSBhIGxlYWt5IGJsYWRkZXIKCkxhc3QgbmlnaHQsIEkgZGlzY292ZXIBMAEBAQE- References: <96FECC0D-6365-40DC-A9A2-91B1D9D75C2F@dcphotos.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 10:13:38 -0800 From: Tim Pettenati To: "don@dcphotos.com" , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Safe woe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Repairs can be done if the bladder isn't too old. Otherwise needs to be replaced. Google aircraft fuel bladder repair and aircraft fuel cell repair On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 7:42 AM, "don@dcphotos.com" wrote: I have a leaky bladder Last night, I discovered a new puddle on the garage floor. The Fuel Safe bladder in my Spitfire has a small hole on the bottom corner. Before I buy a new one, I thought Id ask here first if anyone has an 8 gallon 20x12x8 fuel safe they might want to sell. I really dont want to cut the car to install a different size. >From what I could find in the FOT archive, trying to repairing the bladder isnt perhaps the best course of action. Thanks, Don DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY (512)-680-3540 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive rror _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 11:59:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2A52584C5C for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:59:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m07.mx.aol.com (omr-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2632025802EB for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:56:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com [172.26.50.176]) by omr-m07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 71D207000008C for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 14:00:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mla10h.mail.aol.com (core-mla10.mail.aol.com [172.27.37.10]) by mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 962EA38000086 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 14:00:10 -0500 (EST) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 14:00:10 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1415732411; bh=53xHAypGMLcriHDvhX6Az/bFi9+uEkk0YXYv3DoIS4Q=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=p7nMjTgErDsynm3L90rvjgMF06t7kGQ47pPYs1tvqatyJAnYp6YCEZwZEhR5SEbUD Xo0LTcIEv2lxC8VAx4BrsQY8U/htiLjfELYzNUNS/73eG62RZeljh//gR6zhzJQ/xH FcRrZpR7/I2YpoMZeIH9vJru9v948Z0jUO55WScQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a32b054625cba7824 Subject: [Fot] Looking for a good home... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici... Is there someone out there who is truly 'vintage' ? By that I mean someone who still has and uses a 'Long Play 33 1/3 rpm" phonograph. If so, I have a nice copy of Peter Ustinov's "THE GRAND PRIX OF GIBRALTAR" (AKA GRAND PRIX du ROCK). But I no longer have a phonograph to play it on. I gave away my entire collection of long play records, but kept this one because it was so special to me. But since I can no longer play it, it is FREE to a good home...just reimburse me for the shipping costs. This is USTINOV's brilliant satire of European Grand Prix racing back in the day. Originally this was something he did pretty much off the cuff in his living room for a bunch of house guests. It was big hit with his guests, and so he recorded it on a home record cutter. What I have is the commercial version that was produced shortly thereafter (1958) by Riverside Records. Like I say, "Free to a good home...just reimburse me for the shipping costs." Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 12:04:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C2A22584D4A for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:04:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m1.mx.aol.com (omr-m1.mx.aol.com [64.12.224.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B2C25807BA for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:58:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-aam01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aam01.mx.aol.com [172.27.19.147]) by omr-m1.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 5D26A38000095; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 14:01:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-ada03e.mail.aol.com (core-ada03.mail.aol.com [172.27.0.3]) by mtaomg-aam01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 973F538000085; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 14:01:55 -0500 (EST) References: <96FECC0D-6365-40DC-A9A2-91B1D9D75C2F@dcphotos.com> <5E5236C1-F84D-4642-8CAC-31E6ED2F488C@austin.rr.com> To: ablake2@austin.rr.com, don@dcphotos.com Received: from 173.188.55.223 by webmail-vm062.sysops.aol.com (64.12.250.98) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 11 Nov 2014 14:01:53 -0500 From: Bruce Lapierre Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 14:01:54 -0500 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1415732516; bh=7bHJLw8CwqkVRGJWfMWMqRp6vOuyFHbofPSVYk4rw0s=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vZZ/M4/7I9X1t9fpQcyu5w0Qwddwl2uej2eKG9aeBGTOck7tLQnrka42X3h0qiWx6 pAXBZVLzoiJFH2EfcNSzkZSD1XAtwLE3S6WgT8dh/n7KrwBzJq3JmSZAo9E8xkys5c YaZuZcp3q2TujLpX0wApSutUFWk3IgHXbcoon6O4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b139354625d2356c1 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Safe woe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net LOL -----Original Message----- From: Greg And Alison Blake To: don Cc: fot Sent: Tue, Nov 11, 2014 1:36 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Safe woe Google Depends. You asked for that. Greg > On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:39 AM, "don@dcphotos.com" wrote: > > I have a leaky bladder > > Last night, I discovered a new puddle on the garage floor. > The Fuel Safe bladder in my Spitfire has a small hole on the bottom corner. > > Before I buy a new one, I thought Id ask here first if anyone has an > 8 gallon 20x12x8 fuel safe they might want to sell. > I really dont want to cut the car to install a different size. > > From what I could find in the FOT archive, trying to repairing the bladder > isnt perhaps the best course of action. > > Thanks, > Don > > DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY > (512)-680-3540 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 12:35:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB802584F32 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:35:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth05.mfg.siteprotect.com (smtpauth15.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD8225809BD for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:34:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from [172.16.58.77] (unknown [74.124.40.40]) (Authenticated sender: don@dcphotos.com) by smtpauth05.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7BD63113D6092; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:38:14 -0600 (CST) From: "don@dcphotos.com" Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:38:12 -0600 References: <96FECC0D-6365-40DC-A9A2-91B1D9D75C2F@dcphotos.com> <2D470AE1-C9AA-43E5-9C12-89B24AA0C210@austin.rr.com> To: Bob Kramer reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Safe woe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bob, I keep Googling "recent fief and nothing comes up! HAHA DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY (512)-680-3540 On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:56 AM, Bob Kramer wrote: > I think you can have them recent fief with a new bladder . Google and see. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:39 AM, "don@dcphotos.com" wrote: >> >> I have a leaky bladder >> >> Last night, I discovered a new puddle on the garage floor. >> The Fuel Safe bladder in my Spitfire has a small hole on the bottom corner. >> >> Before I buy a new one, I thought Id ask here first if anyone has an >> 8 gallon 20x12x8 fuel safe they might want to sell. >> I really dont want to cut the car to install a different size. >> >> From what I could find in the FOT archive, trying to repairing the bladder >> isnt perhaps the best course of action. >> >> Thanks, >> Don >> >> DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY >> (512)-680-3540 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 13:12:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A3612584F98 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:12:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dfn.com (mail.dfn.com [74.116.128.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B756B25805EC for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:11:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] [216.223.227.106] by dfn.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-12.3.0.100) id e08a000271fda521; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:15:22 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:15:17 -0700 From: Michael Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: "don@dcphotos.com" , Bob Kramer References: <96FECC0D-6365-40DC-A9A2-91B1D9D75C2F@dcphotos.com> <2D470AE1-C9AA-43E5-9C12-89B24AA0C210@austin.rr.com> Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Safe woe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On 11/11/2014 12:38 PM, don@dcphotos.com wrote: > Bob, > I keep Googling "recent fief and nothing comes up! > HAHA > Auto-correct, combined with tiny phone keyboards, will eventually destroy communication as we know it. I suspect that in a few years, we'll all be reduced to an amorphous mass of confusion, scratching our collective heads and thinking, WTF? :) Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 13:27:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D6DE258055A for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:27:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0AFB258055A for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:27:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([71.116.36.193]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NEW00NXZ3I94W50@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:30:11 -0600 (CST) a=dgAzUI+lILTWfq/CSWBZ6Q==:117 a=IJ9pWlWUkYEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=hzi98xQkanUhqhy0eBsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 From: "Bill Tobin" To: , References: <84b82.1535359d.4193b6ba@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 14:30:08 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Looking for a good home... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bill, not only do I still have have a turntable for the 33 1/3, I still have an 8 track tape player that still works! I'll take it off your hands if nobody else wants it. Let me know. Cheers, Bill P.S. 65 here today; tomorrow, maybe not! Also, does anyone have a compression tester for Diesels that they would like to get rid of? It needs to read 700 psi or more. Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:00 PM Subject: [Fot] Looking for a good home... > Amici... > > Is there someone out there who is truly 'vintage' ? By that I mean > someone > who still has and uses a 'Long Play 33 1/3 rpm" phonograph. If so, I have > a > nice copy of Peter Ustinov's "THE GRAND PRIX OF GIBRALTAR" (AKA GRAND PRIX > du ROCK). But I no longer have a phonograph to play it on. I gave away > my > entire collection of long play records, but kept this one because it was > so > special to me. But since I can no longer play it, it is FREE to a good > home...just reimburse me for the shipping costs. > > This is USTINOV's brilliant satire of European Grand Prix racing back in > the day. Originally this was something he did pretty much off the cuff > in > his living room for a bunch of house guests. It was big hit with his > guests, > and so he recorded it on a home record cutter. What I have is the > commercial version that was produced shortly thereafter (1958) by > Riverside Records. > > Like I say, "Free to a good home...just reimburse me for the shipping > costs." > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 13:51:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B9F2585084 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:51:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9D052585000 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:51:03 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge01 smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [166.176.121.118] ([166.176.121.118:44354] helo=[10.147.249.85]) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 53/2F-07509-A8772645; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 20:54:35 +0000 References: <96FECC0D-6365-40DC-A9A2-91B1D9D75C2F@dcphotos.com> <2D470AE1-C9AA-43E5-9C12-89B24AA0C210@austin.rr.com> From: Bob Kramer Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 14:54:33 -0600 To: "don@dcphotos.com" Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Safe woe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm in an all day meeting and I am just reading my auto correct faux pau. That was supposed to be recertified with a new bladder. Oh well. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 11, 2014, at 1:38 PM, "don@dcphotos.com" wrote: > > Bob, > I keep Googling "recent fiefb and nothing comes up! > HAHA > DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY > (512)-680-3540 > >> On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:56 AM, Bob Kramer wrote: >> >> I think you can have them recent fief with a new bladder . Google and see. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:39 AM, "don@dcphotos.com" wrote: >>> >>> I have a leaky bladder >>> >>> Last night, I discovered a new puddle on the garage floor. >>> The Fuel Safe bladder in my Spitfire has a small hole on the bottom corner. >>> >>> Before I buy a new one, I thought Id ask here first if anyone has an >>> 8 gallon 20x12x8 fuel safe they might want to sell. >>> I really dont want to cut the car to install a different size. >>> >>> From what I could find in the FOT archive, trying to repairing the bladder >>> isnt perhaps the best course of action. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Don >>> >>> DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY >>> (512)-680-3540 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 14:28:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D043625850E4 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 14:28:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from r1.netinteraction.com (unknown [209.114.36.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93FB258055A for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 14:27:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com (mx2.netinteraction.com [174.143.201.144]) by r1.netinteraction.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D75311C935; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:31:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTP id 8F6593C01C; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:31:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ohh0-S+iEGcX; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:31:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com (75-128-248-219.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com [75.128.248.219]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTPA id 01386113C840; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:31:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 15:31:15 -0600 To: Michael Porter From: Peter Caldwell References: <96FECC0D-6365-40DC-A9A2-91B1D9D75C2F@dcphotos.com> <2D470AE1-C9AA-43E5-9C12-89B24AA0C210@austin.rr.com> <54626E55.80706@dfn.com> Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Safe woe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net At 02:15 PM 11/11/2014, Michael Porter wrote: >On 11/11/2014 12:38 PM, don@dcphotos.com wrote: >>Bob, >>I keep Googling "recent fiefand nothing comes up! >>HAHA >Auto-correct, combined with tiny phone keyboards, will eventually >destroy communication as we know it. I suspect that in a few years, >we'll all be reduced to an amorphous mass of confusion, scratching >our collective heads and thinking, WTF? :) >Cheers.-- > >Michael Porter >Roswell, NM ---- So then we'll try to call and speak, only to learn there's no longer that capacity in a "phone" _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 14:39:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A9225850AC for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 14:39:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f172.google.com (mail-ig0-f172.google.com [209.85.213.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD0B2580712 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 14:39:51 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ig0-f172.google.com with SMTP id a13so1800859igq.17 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:43:23 -0800 (PST) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :references:in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date :content-type:mime-version; bh=tApfB0ssqLSbiDKQT3YrLVQXkv7e9+UqPm2+vgpb47w=; b=DdtZwsvm8QaNQwt1necGKlP+R0tQSJkgyOvZuWNSvkejhdUq2Eg6p6nIhkdUTGF1Ha hbvYLm079Lg/OGryY6V1vChU7shvbUZpombo3mo6fXeBSyEB6+Hvw7/yCdUAMyo5xJmw 4vITVLzpjw5Jh+8vbhJbaYGBip9LzcEumvI/qqmxoGKi7zAcLHI+Z9PHi3td28Cjktex WsfKOlzzfBaeEJePBgunDeokum/hpVg2aM86ynKcyhUMnkVNb/5taJwDlONDoEUXtaz/ UNAPmgb4s8EW3E036aKhuoTL1wHoDn2uG8SN+K5Vcgy1GPto1l0hRLbMCSQP+nAWwZCH 7gLQ== x194mr43772237iod.22.1415742202894; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:43:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.29.196.190 (bda-74-82-80-161.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.161]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 7sm10351809iod.9.2014.11.11.13.43.21 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:43:22 -0800 (PST) References: <84b82.1535359d.4193b6ba@aol.com> <9BB268D1841043169BA73F7A39E36467@hpd530> Sensitivity: Normal To: "Bill Tobin" ,"Fot" ,BillDentin@aol.com,"Fot" From: jason@multivintage.com Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 21:43:20 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] Looking for a good home... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Ha! I'm one of the youngest of all ya'll and probably have more records than all of FoT combined. I haven't counted in a while but its lt is many, many thousands. Early childhood memories of sitting inside my dad's GT6 racecar listening to Cream "Disraeli Gears"... And my mind simply melted toward a fantastic journey of vintage pursuit. Cars, toys, records, memorabilia from days gone by... Its my job, my hobby, my passion. The funny thing is, there is only one thing that surpasses my love for vintage objects and the stories that go along with 'em. Its the sound I hear playing the soundtrack in my mind as I'm blasting around the track in my harmonic/demonic GT6 race cars. In fact, lately; I have no regrets selling some of my most prized possesions (some I thought I would never give up) To fuel the experience of charging through the gears with that music of the motor filling up my head. That sound and feeling, my friends, is as close as you can get to "out of this world"... wraping all those moments into one totally awesome vibration of sound. So yes Bill, theres at least a couple of "vintage guys" out here, (I'm 42) And thanks But I already have the "Grand Prix of Gibraltar" Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Bill Tobin" To: ; Subject: Re: [Fot] Looking for a good home... Bill, not only do I still have have a turntable for the 33 1/3, I still have an 8 track tape player that still works! I'll take it off your hands if nobody else wants it. Let me know. Cheers, Bill P.S. 65 here today; tomorrow, maybe not! Also, does anyone have a compression tester for Diesels that they would like to get rid of? It needs to read 700 psi or more. Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:00 PM Subject: [Fot] Looking for a good home... > Amici... > > Is there someone out there who is truly 'vintage' ? By that I mean > someone > who still has and uses a 'Long Play 33 1/3 rpm" phonograph. If so, I have > a > nice copy of Peter Ustinov's "THE GRAND PRIX OF GIBRALTAR" (AKA GRAND PRIX > du ROCK). But I no longer have a phonograph to play it on. I gave away > my > entire collection of long play records, but kept this one because it was > so > special to me. But since I can no longer play it, it is FREE to a good > home...just reimburse me for the shipping costs. > > This is USTINOV's brilliant satire of European Grand Prix racing back in > the day. Originally this was something he did pretty much off the cuff > in > his living room for a bunch of house guests. It was big hit with his > guests, > and so he recorded it on a home record cutter. What I have is the > commercial version that was produced shortly thereafter (1958) by > Riverside Records. > > Like I say, "Free to a good home...just reimburse me for the shipping > costs." > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 18:18:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB87525849F6 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 18:18:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC2S32.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s32.hotmail.com [65.55.111.107]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A77C925802EA for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 18:18:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU436-SMTP244 ([65.55.111.73]) by BLU004-OMC2S32.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:21:39 -0800 From: Jack Brooks To: References: <84b82.1535359d.4193b6ba@aol.com> <9BB268D1841043169BA73F7A39E36467@hpd530> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:21:27 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac/97nL5iO2HXeLwQ16wUj9B+XUPvQAKCsBA FILETIME=[013EA7A0:01CFFE17] Subject: Re: [Fot] Looking for a good home... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We still have a turntable that will do it, but I won't stand in Bill T's way. My kids saw all of the records on the shelf and wanted to learn about "vinyl". They were stunned at the cleaning process, noisy playback and the short duration of uninterrupted play. It was kind-of funny. Jack -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Tobin Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 11:30 AM To: BillDentin@aol.com; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Looking for a good home... Bill, not only do I still have have a turntable for the 33 1/3, I still have an 8 track tape player that still works! I'll take it off your hands if nobody else wants it. Let me know. Cheers, Bill P.S. 65 here today; tomorrow, maybe not! Also, does anyone have a compression tester for Diesels that they would like to get rid of? It needs to read 700 psi or more. Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:00 PM Subject: [Fot] Looking for a good home... > Amici... > > Is there someone out there who is truly 'vintage' ? By that I mean > someone > who still has and uses a 'Long Play 33 1/3 rpm" phonograph. If so, I have > a > nice copy of Peter Ustinov's "THE GRAND PRIX OF GIBRALTAR" (AKA GRAND PRIX > du ROCK). But I no longer have a phonograph to play it on. I gave away > my > entire collection of long play records, but kept this one because it was > so > special to me. But since I can no longer play it, it is FREE to a good > home...just reimburse me for the shipping costs. > > This is USTINOV's brilliant satire of European Grand Prix racing back in > the day. Originally this was something he did pretty much off the cuff > in > his living room for a bunch of house guests. It was big hit with his > guests, > and so he recorded it on a home record cutter. What I have is the > commercial version that was produced shortly thereafter (1958) by > Riverside Records. > > Like I say, "Free to a good home...just reimburse me for the shipping > costs." > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jibrooks@live.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 19:31:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989ED2580AE8 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 19:31:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83582580AE8 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 19:31:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB0E32C053A for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 19:35:19 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 19:35:19 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <84b82.1535359d.4193b6ba@aol.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] Looking for a good home... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net If no one has claimed it, I could take it,digitize and put somewhere on the Team.Net web site. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 12 08:03:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F9225852C6 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 08:03:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7212580951 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 08:02:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([71.116.36.193]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NEX00DY1LYO8030@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 09:06:25 -0600 (CST) a=dgAzUI+lILTWfq/CSWBZ6Q==:117 a=IJ9pWlWUkYEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=sgdlrtSUlcEqDzp0NmgA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 From: "Bill Tobin" To: , References: <84b82.1535359d.4193b6ba@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:06:22 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Looking for a good home... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi All, I went on e-bay and there are seaveral auctions for the GP of Gibraltar. LP, (what's that?) cassette, or CD. Various price ranges. Think I'll get a copy. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:00 PM Subject: [Fot] Looking for a good home... > Amici... > > Is there someone out there who is truly 'vintage' ? By that I mean > someone > who still has and uses a 'Long Play 33 1/3 rpm" phonograph. If so, I have > a > nice copy of Peter Ustinov's "THE GRAND PRIX OF GIBRALTAR" (AKA GRAND PRIX > du ROCK). But I no longer have a phonograph to play it on. I gave away > my > entire collection of long play records, but kept this one because it was > so > special to me. But since I can no longer play it, it is FREE to a good > home...just reimburse me for the shipping costs. > > This is USTINOV's brilliant satire of European Grand Prix racing back in > the day. Originally this was something he did pretty much off the cuff > in > his living room for a bunch of house guests. It was big hit with his > guests, > and so he recorded it on a home record cutter. What I have is the > commercial version that was produced shortly thereafter (1958) by > Riverside Records. > > Like I say, "Free to a good home...just reimburse me for the shipping > costs." > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 12 08:10:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF352585357 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 08:10:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C088258526C for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 08:10:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([71.116.36.193]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NEX00ARZMB67R40@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 09:13:55 -0600 (CST) a=dgAzUI+lILTWfq/CSWBZ6Q==:117 a=IJ9pWlWUkYEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=X7sh0AfJ_4TyMF3zhx0A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 From: "Bill Tobin" To: , References: <84b82.1535359d.4193b6ba@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:13:52 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Looking for a good home... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi again, I looked into this some more and have to get a copy. The drivers: Fandango, Foss, Dill, and Von Grips. I always loved this humor. Showing my age I guess. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:00 PM Subject: [Fot] Looking for a good home... > Amici... > > Is there someone out there who is truly 'vintage' ? By that I mean > someone > who still has and uses a 'Long Play 33 1/3 rpm" phonograph. If so, I have > a > nice copy of Peter Ustinov's "THE GRAND PRIX OF GIBRALTAR" (AKA GRAND PRIX > du ROCK). But I no longer have a phonograph to play it on. I gave away > my > entire collection of long play records, but kept this one because it was > so > special to me. But since I can no longer play it, it is FREE to a good > home...just reimburse me for the shipping costs. > > This is USTINOV's brilliant satire of European Grand Prix racing back in > the day. Originally this was something he did pretty much off the cuff > in > his living room for a bunch of house guests. It was big hit with his > guests, > and so he recorded it on a home record cutter. What I have is the > commercial version that was produced shortly thereafter (1958) by > Riverside Records. > > Like I say, "Free to a good home...just reimburse me for the shipping > costs." > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 12 08:11:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27E8A25853C3 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 08:11:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.62.66]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADAE25809C8 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 08:11:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from [216.39.60.171] by nm19.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Nov 2014 15:15:07 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.235] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Nov 2014 15:15:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1006.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Nov 2014 15:15:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 54627 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Nov 2014 15:15:06 -0000 s=s1024; t=1415805306; bh=1c55CQnn6LUJ4XjothsRw7B48+wHKY8tS+WLgTchJoc=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LeZvx478SgmKqoURtyqHEev39/UWhph0svqgoDBkTyI+bdUOdcwWxXNANrB7B+DclK6c5/zwQ2xAXzrJOXntemRFZqxRkQhChAC1qaAo7pEuHEYzGF/lgUKVo8PCtzEyS4Fxq/lUaRBR8t4RQYI161FJGYar/ihW1qQFyaZgHcA= .mgFiS4HF9qMZoVtYkdS1jJuHitfMmq2U5NXJEpzrINK4PfUkbzeYyDXn3Nr oFgbWztJiG.feAD2D2eytZqoUhaJHbFTJaNk3shW3Y3UJd2LQzfcH24pY3ia jfSm6JCYL_o1J.mqFk8a_u.dwoCWE0Vlz.6rpF_pJh.sE2DDdwXYjn23KCEx Hes9BNk9AZsyTJ000nIsyOlVlPV55dLniw3r_EVoTM3yTu_rT_UW_5F2tNwp N.uFDWA_phsu_QpnWWJfgZGiJhdI0rszHyYXtUySgZ_Ckb_onK5wkRELMH.B 0Bu0CHCLZ_BWsG_028ZLriOP.O.a1dm9FcYABak3b0jqJpnZ8SDL5hMvbFAC GFHvjkal9tP45dTEbMFdBpkyf2xJ2l8gKXyJ5yg3gWNhFfOag4Mbfdgc970m aQ_C2pBeoNhcp5wDYK87F4VR_ys8YdcSTNC3rKLj3K8AJnEOTLIsUujd9VtJ VssLJG1oLYYfXF9ai52gE4xpeMl9Pv.jR.3tf1uoWiFinpJAQ4tXXUqHtB.g j.B9HM.auVsu7l8.KXxsw8eo8h6k_rLUtc9eC7j_1rceq Received: from [24.246.169.211] by web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 07:15:06 PST VGhlIFBvbHl1cmV0aGFuZSBmdWVsIGNlbGxzIGhhdmUgYSBzaG9ydGVyIGxpZmUgc3BhbiB0aGFuIHRoZSBydWJiZXIgYmxhZGRlcnMuIEl0cyBhIGdvb2QgdGhpbmcgRnVlbCBTYWZlIHB1dHMgdGhlIGhvbGVzIGluIHRoZSBjb3JuZXJzIG9mIHRoZSBib3ggb3IgZWxzZSB3ZSB3b3VsZCBuZXZlciBmaW5kIHRoZSBsZWFrLCBtYWpvciBmaXJlIGhhemFyZC4gQ2FsbCBFYWdsZSBmdWVsIGNlbGxzIGFuZCBidXkgYSBydWJiZXIgYmxhZGRlciwgaXQgd2lsbCBiZSB0aGUgbGFzdCBjZWxsIHlvdSBidXkuIElmIHQBMAEBAQE- References: <96FECC0D-6365-40DC-A9A2-91B1D9D75C2F@dcphotos.com> <2D470AE1-C9AA-43E5-9C12-89B24AA0C210@austin.rr.com> <54626E55.80706@dfn.com> <20141111213122.8F6593C01C@mx2.netinteraction.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 07:15:06 -0800 From: Rick Parent To: Peter Caldwell , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Safe woe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The Polyurethane fuel cells have a shorter life span than the rubber bladders. Its a good thing Fuel Safe puts the holes in the corners of the box or else we would never find the leak, major fire hazard. Call Eagle fuel cells and buy a rubber bladder, it will be the last cell you buy. If they do not have the size you need they can make a custom one for you, just send them your box. Rick On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 4:31 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: At 02:15 PM 11/11/2014, Michael Porter wrote: >On 11/11/2014 12:38 PM, don@dcphotos.com wrote: >>Bob, >>I keep Googling "recent fiefand nothing comes up! >>HAHA >Auto-correct, combined with tiny phone keyboards, will eventually >destroy communication as we know it. I suspect that in a few years, >we'll all be reduced to an amorphous mass of confusion, scratching >our collective heads and thinking, WTF? :) >Cheers.-- > >Michael Porter >Roswell, NM ---- So then we'll try to call and speak, only to learn there's no longer that capacity in a "phone" _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 12 09:08:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63DB425854E8 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 09:08:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m08.mx.aol.com (omr-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.222.129]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E4A2580B51 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 09:07:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mac02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mac02.mx.aol.com [172.26.222.208]) by omr-m08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 03AE570341361; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 11:11:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mla10g.mail.aol.com (core-mla10.mail.aol.com [172.27.37.10]) by mtaomg-mac02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E107E38000090; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 11:11:17 -0500 (EST) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 11:11:17 -0500 To: william.tobin31@verizon.net, fot@autox.team.net s=20140625; t=1415808682; bh=d/QmEzCXjyxXXTWb4RoOaVtbQigaAJUIOO/xI+7wnBo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=b8dTe7m5+Kb4XFqdnPrvVMQlmnDVcWcBM7/dLwnn4EDtg8rjIhGD/hXnxaKo4JhAm j9i5kXgqaF2DrWPmqctJRJxXBqUJjGQNol8Z3BKpCf0BceMdjY9yU4Snd5z1w1ILaB bQMI4ozv6gb1uwHiVZn9OB38ljFuIHdSMya3Ujqc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1aded0546386a55467 Subject: Re: [Fot] Looking for a good home... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 11/12/2014 9:06:32 AM Central Standard Time, william.tobin31@verizon.net writes: > Hi All, I went on e-bay and there are seaveral auctions for the GP of > Gibraltar. > LP, (what's that?) cassette, or CD. > Various price ranges. > Think I'll get a copy. > Bill... You won't regret it. It is a CLASSIC. Sir Peter Ustinov was a super talent, and a Master of satire and parody. He was also a certified 'Gear Head'. He loved sports cars and racing. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 12 10:34:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD64258474C for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:34:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm10-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm10-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB4025805EC for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:32:28 -0700 (MST) s=s2048; t=1415813760; bh=Tnl+pwo4KO0RRbGuvgi/ps2qNwN/JuOW8nlfPAUq/wU=; h=References:In-Reply-To:Cc:From:Subject:Date:To:From:Subject; b=IHkN1rWgsDIrVPbAazDvYip8Xt2Ld904OU2RMbVh2cyHhsI3OR5PmF8MngeZp//Ue5aclwxEyld3J5s7hNWWlajNaa8nQ0z3+PMOYLGYMU+1RUvnTqUMl/z/F9IUdO+pCq0ggtp7SOk/IZxxJv9UlsUpbZ52fRcF5C1QiHklpQFQvhR36UuRhiuR7RFxf/0x6jXnAwfqV9kVKoUkvyty+Qq/qoxa8ddHVBFRDNdeXatJjz9t5H+/dLD5btlngDptGNHejpnwVfrXmQyD3kLRsW7hEP8DHkw/nwImT0fyS1VKXDx8eIhUkOGv4SrwiUnD/iXE8dqB/Z39iVL5BJ0WEQ== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=DJNREBv3QEzyRIoBOXcbDgZOk9/0wvymh9PK97llMxK2kWioLXozR3eBLIzhTWrfDoM/ioLroqT65+qTu5XM1dGKlDwq4BvEpl8VlVIkdVdmaCZ0YvZv+XDN6oIuzetpnv4SUNiNIgSZUKcrbw4j/28tyzokgn6PKfS3WdLUl6OTxo2VYsogSoM2pYgm3NvZ/PA9II+phGLt50vM3sTziZdNPaTAfMUb94TeVU+t1MCjG1SdStsbqbimmjHCwkKzhmGQPe5K14kddF43sJPaukw6lUhvyeFCFz6MdI7yDC+HSN/4tRvDz7g8r4VyYvm8yiqwMBBm5Tl3uQkgJweCMw==; Received: from [98.139.214.32] by nm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Nov 2014 17:36:00 -0000 Received: from [98.139.211.192] by tm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Nov 2014 17:36:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Nov 2014 17:36:00 -0000 QuGSUVwL0wqlBMvAKHuGNooRiAHW4Uh8SsZxqFTutC49INcDNHF09s2CBYoR QU5mGXR2hJJ0p6hTwbY9IrRQQNrQ88RxDn1vNl0YVAWeGSaRCtsw_DFREbrh VAkJNbloLCzavKwwMkSHZGtpjodYIupOK.j7O7rbP0C2OJR3k9bXMNTu2Bs7 IlqpzfoHOZXe1KpcbEb8PZEHtgI9oCq5FeZ1Q1NWI28hp2gp5Ne8FiWR4Ozd NSU51FTW2vR92vPxeEQqeww03HdhKwdovJbNJqiS6uydOjzzK3cVNuvnJcEi xlA2KgCAFUyfoa4gE.Kw.d1UBEWoxwWklPZkyb4AdLw.iZXYE9Ym_C0aSGr8 9lha3MLzSPeD2hHAah8UoR3JKhkOYJ.etTQCRWc5rv_yaMEqlY8bzrpKN3Ph Iu7f_D7xZunJaUSSilysbqwD_4FkU4Bt879feHABpBrGaEyHZaqniI.2CNSQ aLtE3apIQR2kRs7A3oFRvXL_2MricHRGCFo9jkUje3YnIWcIm4vYKEr3sRoq lZnTl36TnX7BsrVzGEgfSgxgJSOvonSuuYg-- References: <96FECC0D-6365-40DC-A9A2-91B1D9D75C2F@dcphotos.com> <2D470AE1-C9AA-43E5-9C12-89B24AA0C210@austin.rr.com> From: Mike Munson Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 11:35:59 -0600 To: Bob Kramer Cc: "don@dcphotos.com" , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Safe woe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I just figured you had the same syndrome that all the other TR6 racers have, whereby all the good brain cells have been forced to the back corner of the brain by the added torque of the 6 cylinder. I also find it troubling that you only have time to read FOT emails when you are in a work meeting! LOL! Mike Munson #28 EP TR6 > On Nov 11, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: > > I'm in an all day meeting and I am just reading my auto correct faux pau. That > was supposed to be recertified > with a new bladder. Oh well. > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 11, 2014, at 1:38 PM, "don@dcphotos.com" wrote: >> >> Bob, >> I keep Googling "recent fiefb and nothing comes up! >> HAHA >> DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY >> (512)-680-3540 >> >>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:56 AM, Bob Kramer wrote: >>> >>> I think you can have them recent fief with a new bladder . Google and see. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:39 AM, "don@dcphotos.com" wrote: >>>> >>>> I have a leaky bladder >>>> >>>> Last night, I discovered a new puddle on the garage floor. >>>> The Fuel Safe bladder in my Spitfire has a small hole on the bottom > corner. >>>> >>>> Before I buy a new one, I thought Id ask here first if anyone has an >>>> 8 gallon 20x12x8 fuel safe they might want to sell. >>>> I really dont want to cut the car to install a different size. >>>> >>>> From what I could find in the FOT archive, trying to repairing the > bladder >>>> isnt perhaps the best course of action. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Don >>>> >>>> DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY >>>> (512)-680-3540 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 12 10:49:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D802584547 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:49:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth03.mfg.siteprotect.com (smtpauth03h.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6E525806B8 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:49:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from [172.16.58.77] (unknown [74.124.40.40]) (Authenticated sender: don@dcphotos.com) by smtpauth03.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AEEC3EBD8 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 11:52:55 -0600 (CST) From: "don@dcphotos.com" Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 11:52:54 -0600 References: <96FECC0D-6365-40DC-A9A2-91B1D9D75C2F@dcphotos.com> <2D470AE1-C9AA-43E5-9C12-89B24AA0C210@austin.rr.com> <1F70557B-1AA5-4241-AFFC-94FB653F33D5@yahoo.com> To: "fot@autox.team.net" reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Safe woe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net So I see the replacement bladder on these two sites for about $100 less than FUEL SAFE and PEGASUS HOERR RACING PRODUCTS www.hrpworld.com - and I/O PORT RACING /www.ioportracing.com Anybody had any dealings with either of them? Dont want to place my order and have my credit card tied up. Too good to believe always seems to be... Don DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY (512)-680-3540 On Nov 12, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Mike Munson wrote: > I just figured you had the same syndrome that all the other TR6 racers have, whereby all the good brain cells have been forced to the back corner of the brain by the added torque of the 6 cylinder. > I also find it troubling that you only have time to read FOT emails when you are in a work meeting! LOL! > > Mike Munson > #28 EP TR6 > > >> On Nov 11, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: >> >> I'm in an all day meeting and I am just reading my auto correct faux pau. That >> was supposed to be recertified >> with a new bladder. Oh well. >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 1:38 PM, "don@dcphotos.com" wrote: >>> >>> Bob, >>> I keep Googling "recent fiefb and nothing comes up! >>> HAHA >>> DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY >>> (512)-680-3540 >>> >>>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:56 AM, Bob Kramer wrote: >>>> >>>> I think you can have them recent fief with a new bladder . Google and see. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:39 AM, "don@dcphotos.com" wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I have a leaky bladder >>>>> >>>>> Last night, I discovered a new puddle on the garage floor. >>>>> The Fuel Safe bladder in my Spitfire has a small hole on the bottom >> corner. >>>>> >>>>> Before I buy a new one, I thought Id ask here first if anyone has an >>>>> 8 gallon 20x12x8 fuel safe they might want to sell. >>>>> I really dont want to cut the car to install a different size. >>>>> >>>>> From what I could find in the FOT archive, trying to repairing the >> bladder >>>>> isnt perhaps the best course of action. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Don >>>>> >>>>> DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY >>>>> (512)-680-3540 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>>> >>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>> >>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 12 10:57:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4080D2584670 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:57:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m2.mx.aol.com (omr-m2.mx.aol.com [64.12.133.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09FB2580470 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:57:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mbc01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mbc01.mx.aol.com [172.26.221.143]) by omr-m2.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id C3CDD380000D9; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 13:00:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mla10g.mail.aol.com (core-mla10.mail.aol.com [172.27.37.10]) by mtaomg-mbc01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 654AB38000087; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 13:00:34 -0500 (EST) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 13:00:34 -0500 To: JIBrooks@Live.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1415815234; bh=h+StZ+dFN6bse86RZB1LxanLDt03zhIQ07fmcpPT3Ag=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=auIZ+yR6+XncAcs20xxQKNHdMt66ieaviElEvwZ/mg51kwHT5HoJlgQcmEaVX94Gn PVGRQgYVNQnC039VDhgkvvd/EZqXvwtRlIkj5mIVlLO0zCyZBRO4fJI95UQkmnKs1W 5R/InKldK2Gj8Ly8tTLYi0h/6nj1DMAMQw2MVknQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1add8f5463a0420b5e Subject: Re: [Fot] Looking for a good home... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 11/12/2014 11:51:07 AM Central Standard Time, JIBrooks@Live.com writes: > We still have a turntable that will do it, but I won't stand in Bill T's > way. > > My kids saw all of the records on the shelf and wanted to learn about > "vinyl". They were stunned at the cleaning process, noisy playback and > the > short duration of uninterrupted play. It was kind-of funny. > Sorry, Jack, but it was gone in a flash to John Reed. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 12 12:19:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 803C325849A4 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 12:19:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm1-vm2.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm1-vm2.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.73]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F882584964 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 12:19:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.196.81.162] by nm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Nov 2014 19:23:12 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.152] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Nov 2014 19:23:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1028.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Nov 2014 19:23:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 48391 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Nov 2014 19:23:11 -0000 s=s1024; t=1415820191; bh=C3JpNKIZGAcBYcXddS4iNAIYdCNeaP+wdFpJ67wEZpM=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QnD6ahyKVdyRB6QQmXvRIpyd9qylcK3mBoIrp+XwbZQOvFMiRwZ+KmYni5q5EpBinq9T+wUX/1HMauE5c6A9GLwNDNNmbBokwjYc8EQl6XRzqORyShp56sorqWnU4bRq7wuZYUUfKJWu3VKihWk+y0Py6gGTAqtdNklWAto/9z8= DWBgVFWjinLh4FIdj1HRGVZBVpZleGPxVBK8W3vs49Wb3J9lASN4AsKJp.Gg jdH1a0NugEVDzUASY_uL6hyiUNL5m1NyyqRd6.bz.3_hUyMsuUccJyWnFZdd H3YooatHmFo8RqYUsdqoJwy.jKGHhMrebpx0tTXCJg.2az6ouzF5ztGil7eE Tkd7aBm85qS.aH_P6bbjYWgSu4PZ1FDJMJq_5MYIbwxfuZjuZU6xLZcHsfoL .EC2CzyOXyX4IJ6EzQ02b3rPKSiCAOS5ZOskgFOLyYR7xPs39zeGfvH_C4Iw APExfNW4Mzs9bW7x8VHkJKRwAOdp3H4SQmV6Jo17oCwJB6H4HIW9yyZuyFQX r4Lyah0Qtj6NwFWSOxMIGIeM9NRR7IBlppfEiVY2DK8JJ5tQDIy.wJ1VpwNG OEq_qaaszh_2MMXBl9MvtjvE61hX0Y5ivtRe6TwO6_MKLiRkl7cTfp8wWodP fjA6liNzEcD_zveNI.IysHi5hlEfbcNw74F4bbzvZMsNe0XGzNBwqFtdpSRT dgE0AQUSOG7rtet29ZO_DQlY6uB_sAigWKQEsshkRTBI9sK9bG_niz.hUMY7 NU4Ve8Z8A69N4iVQDO76Ysyeu7hxPv41TY3zV_vsJcvyr8Y6rZ54gwZv57Jb 7lITQkFcZqE2HO_EPfbj.RKCq8_2pS2q8fwPW Received: from [24.246.169.211] by web181301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 11:23:11 PST VGhleSBhcmUgYm90aCByZXB1dGFibGUgY29tcGFuaWVzLgoKUmljawoKCgpPbiBXZWRuZXNkYXksIE5vdmVtYmVyIDEyLCAyMDE0IDEyOjUyIFBNLCAiZG9uQGRjcGhvdG9zLmNvbSIgPGRvbkBkY3Bob3Rvcy5jb20.IHdyb3RlOgogCgoKU28gSSBzZWUgdGhlIHJlcGxhY2VtZW50IGJsYWRkZXIgb24gdGhlc2UgdHdvIHNpdGVzIGZvciBhYm91dCAkMTAwIGxlc3MgdGhhbgpGVUVMIFNBRkUgYW5kIFBFR0FTVVMKCkhPRVJSIFJBQ0lORyBQUk9EVUNUUwp3d3cuaHJwd29ybGQuY29tIC0KYW5kCkkvTyBQT1JUIFIBMAEBAQE- References: <96FECC0D-6365-40DC-A9A2-91B1D9D75C2F@dcphotos.com> <2D470AE1-C9AA-43E5-9C12-89B24AA0C210@austin.rr.com> <1F70557B-1AA5-4241-AFFC-94FB653F33D5@yahoo.com> <78F3C634-4C7F-4668-B0E1-75BA6B81354A@dcphotos.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 11:23:11 -0800 From: Rick Parent To: "don@dcphotos.com" , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Safe woe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net They are both reputable companies. Rick On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 12:52 PM, "don@dcphotos.com" wrote: So I see the replacement bladder on these two sites for about $100 less than FUEL SAFE and PEGASUS HOERR RACING PRODUCTS www.hrpworld.com - and I/O PORT RACING /www.ioportracing.com Anybody had any dealings with either of them? Dont want to place my order and have my credit card tied up. Too good to believe always seems to be... Don DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY (512)-680-3540 On Nov 12, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Mike Munson wrote: > I just figured you had the same syndrome that all the other TR6 racers have, whereby all the good brain cells have been forced to the back corner of the brain by the added torque of the 6 cylinder. > I also find it troubling that you only have time to read FOT emails when you are in a work meeting! LOL! > > Mike Munson > #28 EP TR6 > > >> On Nov 11, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: >> >> I'm in an all day meeting and I am just reading my auto correct faux pau. That >> was supposed to be recertified >> with a new bladder. Oh well. >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 1:38 PM, "don@dcphotos.com" wrote: >>> >>> Bob, >>> I keep Googling "recent fiefb and nothing comes up! >>> HAHA >>> DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY >>> (512)-680-3540 >>> >>>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:56 AM, Bob Kramer wrote: >>>> >>>> I think you can have them recent fief with a new bladder . Google and see. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:39 AM, "don@dcphotos.com" wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I have a leaky bladder >>>>> >>>>> Last night, I discovered a new puddle on the garage floor. >>>>> The Fuel Safe bladder in my Spitfire has a small hole on the bottom >> corner. >>>>> >>>>> Before I buy a new one, I thought Id ask here first if anyone has an >>>>> 8 gallon 20x12x8 fuel safe they might want to sell. >>>>> I really dont want to cut the car to install a different size. >>>>> >>>>> From what I could find in the FOT archive, trying to repairing the >> bladder >>>>> isnt perhaps the best course of action. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Don >>>>> >>>>> DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY >>>>> (512)-680-3540 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>>> >>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>> >>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 12 13:39:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B08A2584964 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 13:39:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f53.google.com (mail-pa0-f53.google.com [209.85.220.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6AF72584964 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 13:39:30 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id kx10so13711240pab.40 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 12:43:02 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:importance:content-type :mime-version; bh=AE4QPZc6IfjzEep6dwO334J25sauW2InTRVV8cjljKc=; b=Ra/aVqqUPsG7UIzEV2bPtoTnGJ7yGInBEFQMWpWA/KkrPWmPtH/JXJRWO008Ggvy08 A6cJWX324pLLGx6L3L/XpwNrsmAOjSO3d6VRBL/zCN+8t2fD7iVnGUYhcsc0nk/hnsCW s04ILXIj9/dWvVnLD6KMO+a7D63beDT0NswGWlYDJDX0WX/j9sjOOTITOdFP1HIcugzl ZJw52hJnSm8b7cxl+ctOWumrae1obtjj8e3dhmXIk7/5cZV8Tjyzh/HbAPZHsFKU3IcT NwYAf3d+HPTB/31TPoOv1v6qi2WgNSpzNsI9oS38OnPxXtXPCuy2tLwzEGr0/chuguha pGsw== qs4mr50867905pbb.39.1415824982359; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 12:43:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.16] (75-165-99-80.tukw.qwest.net. [75.165.99.80]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id pe6sm23092650pac.21.2014.11.12.12.43.00 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 12 Nov 2014 12:43:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 12:43:01 -0800 (PST) From: =?utf-8?B?dHJpb3NhbkBnbWFpbC5jb20=?= To: =?utf-8?B?ZG9uQGRjcGhvdG9zLmNvbQ==?= , =?utf-8?B?Zm90QGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0?= Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Safe woe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have used them both. No complaints. HRP for Quarter master clutch parts. Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Phone. ------ Original message------ From: don@dcphotos.com Date: Wed, Nov 12, 2014 9:53 AM To: fot@autox.team.net; Subject:Re: [Fot] Fuel Safe woe So I see the replacement bladder on these two sites for about $100 less than FUEL SAFE and PEGASUS HOERR RACING PRODUCTS www.hrpworld.com - and I/O PORT RACING /www.ioportracing.com Anybody had any dealings with either of them? Dont want to place my order and have my credit card tied up. Too good to believe always seems to be... Don DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY (512)-680-3540 On Nov 12, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Mike Munson wrote: > I just figured you had the same syndrome that all the other TR6 racers have, whereby all the good brain cells have been forced to the back corner of the brain by the added torque of the 6 cylinder. > I also find it troubling that you only have time to read FOT emails when you are in a work meeting! LOL! > > Mike Munson > #28 EP TR6 > > >> On Nov 11, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: >> >> I'm in an all day meeting and I am just reading my auto correct faux pau. That >> was supposed to be recertified >> with a new bladder. Oh well. >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 1:38 PM, "don@dcphotos.com" wrote: >>> >>> Bob, >>> I keep Googling "recent fiefb and nothing comes up! >>> HAHA >>> DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY >>> (512)-680-3540 >>> >>>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:56 AM, Bob Kramer wrote: >>>> >>>> I think you can have them recent fief with a new bladder . Google and see. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:39 AM, "don@dcphotos.com" wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I have a leaky bladder >>>>> >>>>> Last night, I discovered a new puddle on the garage floor. >>>>> The Fuel Safe bladder in my Spitfire has a small hole on the bottom >> corner. >>>>> >>>>> Before I buy a new one, I thought Id ask here first if anyone has an >>>>> 8 gallon 20x12x8 fuel safe they might want to sell. >>>>> I really dont want to cut the car to install a different size. >>>>> >>>>> From what I could find in the FOT archive, trying to repairing the >> bladder >>>>> isnt perhaps the best course of action. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Don >>>>> >>>>> DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY >>>>> (512)-680-3540 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>>> >>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>> >>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 12 15:34:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DC92584752 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 15:34:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth05.mfg.siteprotect.com (smtpauth15.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3144D25805FB for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 15:33:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from [172.16.58.77] (unknown [74.124.40.40]) (Authenticated sender: don@dcphotos.com) by smtpauth05.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1272A11E4F218 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 16:36:34 -0600 (CST) From: "don@dcphotos.com" Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 16:36:34 -0600 References: <000f4242.6c97a91152cb1b3d@gmail.com> To: fot@autox.team.net reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Safe woe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks to all for the help with this. Have a couple of choices now. One thing I want to say about this list is sometimes, something said in passing can make so much difference. Rick Parent happen to add this line to a comment he made: "Its a good thing Fuel Safe puts the holes in the corners of the box or else we would never find the leak, major fire hazard. After reading that, it seems obvious why those holes are there. Funny thing is when I saw the hole in the corners of the tank, I thought to myself, Im gonna want to get that seam welded up. I did think one of the holes looked manufactured but the other one where the gas leaked was covered in goo from the bladder and I just thought it had corroded. Anyway, you never know how something like that comment can help someone else. Again, my thanks to all, _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 12 20:07:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1396F2580B19 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 20:07:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.centurylink.net (mail.centurylink.net [205.219.233.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48500258074C for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 20:07:23 -0700 (MST) X_CMAE_Category: , , a=YGxd9nkJ/k3/1gF5OCisWA==:17 a=RAWo0jPMFMcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=nq_iPTBNAAAA:8 a=obSM17EiAAAA:8 a=Wo-ylOS8AAAA:8 a=YBHSGHFLAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=QEps4B0vAAAA:8 a=V2sFqR7mSuYngZzL7_MA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=BdaaPe7F_SsA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=YGxd9nkJ/k3/1gF5OCisWA==:117 Authentication-Results: smtp02.agate.dfw.synacor.com smtp.user=rjl6n; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [67.237.166.227] ([67.237.166.227:35605] helo=[192.168.0.2]) by smtp.centurylink.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.1.37854 r(Momo-dev:3.5.1.0)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=CAMELLIA256-SHA) id 83/D5-28799-D3124645; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 22:10:54 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 22:10:46 -0500 From: "R. John Lye" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100722 Eudora/3.0.4 To: "don@dcphotos.com" References: <96FECC0D-6365-40DC-A9A2-91B1D9D75C2F@dcphotos.com> <2D470AE1-C9AA-43E5-9C12-89B24AA0C210@austin.rr.com> <1F70557B-1AA5-4241-AFFC-94FB653F33D5@yahoo.com> <78F3C634-4C7F-4668-B0E1-75BA6B81354A@dcphotos.com> Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Safe woe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've bought quite a bit of stuff from Hoerr Racing in the past with no problems. I bought a video camera mount from I/O Port many, many years ago . Again, no problems. John On 11/12/2014 12:52 PM, don@dcphotos.com wrote: > So I see the replacement bladder on these two sites for about $100 less than > FUEL SAFE and PEGASUS > > HOERR RACING PRODUCTS > www.hrpworld.com - > and > I/O PORT RACING > /www.ioportracing.com > > > Anybody had any dealings with either of them? > Dont want to place my order and have my credit card tied up. > Too good to believe always seems to be... > > Don > > DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY > (512)-680-3540 > > On Nov 12, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Mike Munson wrote: > >> I just figured you had the same syndrome that all the other TR6 racers have, > whereby all the good brain cells have been forced to the back corner of the > brain by the added torque of the 6 cylinder. >> I also find it troubling that you only have time to read FOT emails when you > are in a work meeting! LOL! >> >> Mike Munson >> #28 EP TR6 >> >> >>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Bob Kramer wrote: >>> >>> I'm in an all day meeting and I am just reading my auto correct faux pau. > That >>> was supposed to be recertified >>> with a new bladder. Oh well. >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 1:38 PM, "don@dcphotos.com" wrote: >>>> >>>> Bob, >>>> I keep Googling "recent fiefb and nothing comes up! >>>> HAHA >>>> DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY >>>> (512)-680-3540 >>>> >>>>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:56 AM, Bob Kramer wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I think you can have them recent fief with a new bladder . Google and > see. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:39 AM, "don@dcphotos.com" > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I have a leaky bladder >>>>>> >>>>>> Last night, I discovered a new puddle on the garage floor. >>>>>> The Fuel Safe bladder in my Spitfire has a small hole on the bottom >>> corner. >>>>>> >>>>>> Before I buy a new one, I thought Id ask here first if anyone has an >>>>>> 8 gallon 20x12x8 fuel safe they might want to sell. >>>>>> I really dont want to cut the car to install a different size. >>>>>> >>>>>> From what I could find in the FOT archive, trying to repairing the >>> bladder >>>>>> isnt perhaps the best course of action. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Don >>>>>> >>>>>> DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY >>>>>> (512)-680-3540 >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer3@austin.rr.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs@yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com > > > -- Thanks, R. John Lye rjl6n@cstone.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 13 08:05:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5944D2580B2D for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 08:05:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from e8.ny.us.ibm.com (e8.ny.us.ibm.com [32.97.182.138]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 945D6258094A for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 08:05:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from /spool/local by e8.ny.us.ibm.com with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! Violators will be prosecuted for from ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 10:08:34 -0500 Received: from d01dlp02.pok.ibm.com (9.56.250.167) by e8.ny.us.ibm.com (192.168.1.108) with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! Violators will be prosecuted; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 10:08:32 -0500 Received: from b01cxnp23034.gho.pok.ibm.com (b01cxnp23034.gho.pok.ibm.com [9.57.198.29]) by d01dlp02.pok.ibm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D94E36E8040 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 10:00:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from d01av04.pok.ibm.com (d01av04.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.64]) by b01cxnp23034.gho.pok.ibm.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id sADF8VTx21626898 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 15:08:31 GMT Received: from d01av04.pok.ibm.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by d01av04.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id sADF8UrU026741 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 10:08:30 -0500 Received: from d01ml099.pok.ibm.com (d01ml099.pok.ibm.com [9.63.8.34]) by d01av04.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/NCO v10.0 AVin) with ESMTP id sADF8UST026679 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 10:08:30 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net From: George Harmuth Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 10:08:30 -0500 9.0.1FP1|April 03, 2014) at 11/13/2014 10:08:32 x-cbid: 14111315-0029-0000-0000-0000011F18DE Subject: [Fot] Amazing Photo - Nurburgring 1961 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Racing related but not directly to Triumphs This is a cross post from the VRG forum, Thanks Nial This is just such an amazing photo. Just *look* at the people in it. http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Nurburgring-1961 .jpg Apparently taken at Nurburgring in 1961 I can name most of the guys in this and I bet many of you can too. Photo Credit: Gordon Kirby from Motorsport magazine. I couldn't name them all so here's a cheat sheet. >From Left to Right: Jim Clark, ?, Chris Amon, Jack Brabham, Sterling Moss, ?, Graham Hill, ?, ?, Bonnier, ?, ?, Bruce McLaren, Dan Gurney, ? I believe the two drivers next to Clark are Roy Salvadori and Inness Ireland. The gentleman behind Graham Hill and Jo Bonnier with the tie on is Huschke von Hanstein, team manger for Porsche. Not sure if the time line is correct, but the driver behind Bruce McLaren looks like Wolfgang von Trips, who was killed at Monza in 1961. mike h G. Michael Harmuth Software Engineer Automated Material Handling Equipment Engineering Services _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 13 17:23:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756252584AC7 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 17:23:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5083A25808A7 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 17:23:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-aag01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aag01.mx.aol.com [172.26.126.79]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 3AABF700000B2 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 19:27:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mtc001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtc001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.1]) by mtaomg-aag01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id EEBCF38000082 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 19:27:12 -0500 (EST) From: SpiwakD@aol.com Full-name: SpiwakD Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 19:27:12 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1415924833; bh=sbonIa0JQx8iPglgf8hPkhvYj6ZmD8ovfgzl2YzwplI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oPwvyk/SDffx/1RwK5uOo/c6/r7OfeFD5G0A+LtCGXxbOB6mhrRa1BOs8fVHuGavR 4+D0UXuBWbceZyDpfuQKxb0y3P5fA1kVKpPkaRWTlcZcGCJLculdU23VnYe9fQ9tMj ngvJiUj74mwNUuLcI506O14IwGcnrmws7iF5B3dg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a7e4f54654c602d01 Subject: [Fot] Close ratio needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Need close ratio- gears or complete close-ratio trans for TR3/4. Dave Spiwak _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 13 19:29:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D159C2584AAE for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 19:29:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p01c12o149.mxlogic.net (p01c12o149.mxlogic.net [208.65.145.72]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0726B2584A1C for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 19:29:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO p01c12o149.mxlogic.net) by p01c12o149.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.2.0-0) with ESMTP id 1f965645.2b5f7380b940.94304.00-543.264091.p01c12o149.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Thu, 13 Nov 2014 19:33:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] by p01c12o149.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.2.0-0) with SMTP id 17965645.0.93925.00-364.263244.p01c12o149.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Thu, 13 Nov 2014 19:31:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::c824:a29e:45a5:b81c]) by ATLPEXCAS01.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 21:30:56 -0500 From: John Hasty To: "SpiwakD@aol.com" Thread-Topic: [Fot] Close ratio needed Thread-Index: AQHP/6G/5JYRcxQRjEy4ZkNQzRcQzpxfZsYB Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 02:30:56 +0000 References: <58fb8.1238580.4196a660@aol.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US a=VR8QHrWKYhK80xkEBGCjUg==] a=kj9] a=YlVTAMxI] a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 ] a=m3MdUl94G8cA:] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Close ratio needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Think Gilanders still carries them Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 13, 2014, at 7:27 PM, "SpiwakD@aol.com" wrote: > > Need close ratio- gears or complete close-ratio trans for TR3/4. Dave > Spiwak > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 13 19:51:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521E12584D62 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 19:51:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f173.google.com (mail-ie0-f173.google.com [209.85.223.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B25E02584AAE for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 19:51:06 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id y20so245504ier.4 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 18:54:39 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=bYg1+JPLzYcVCfljQQLqpt7g4m/u7Fsic7fASQXTrt8=; b=Qb/v+BaeyPi5Bvxa52V7bGmrrV6trxMQrj8c2kgg9Dbqgs32MJmmB/uh3GRAcV0S+q i7FhH2Ai/h0tF0CPs+OKXlXJqdWz4YhjPqqNRHbo9serZ4x5Z9gJFQsCIQtsxiRcY1R+ lwgOyUOD4QkpkTS0v5I29y9e9wvwbfWsqF3FRdF4RsRS7yW6Je9DNWCpkL/dRs0RKutX bYVaJ+v6YMrk8PnEWans0G7BDmojIlJM4hDdNhKAmkfQ1JdNOjJaPJFcn0+YBzBlgPU6 YXhPstgN/38Bg59k9fwOwIXXL8hYucel8HqmyDx3TIJUJ4ieUQunptWIKsHsaI1+gddn IEWw== Thu, 13 Nov 2014 18:54:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.140.199 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 18:54:39 -0800 (PST) References: <56592AA3-7B69-4537-A2FE-EDB0F59EA9DE@me.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 21:54:39 -0500 From: John Styduhar To: Scott Janzen , "Triumph 'Friends of Triumph" Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2015 Host Hotel - Jefferson 500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Scott, the block of room reserved for the FOT are already taken, but the the hotel contact said you could call and reserve additional at the same price. Thanks On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Scott Janzen wrote: > This is to announce the host hotel for the Kastner Cup at the Jefferson > 500 at > Summit Point, West Virginia next May 14-17. > The hotel will be the Hampton Inn Winchester North, on I-81 about 20 > minutes > from the track, in Winchester, Virginia. The rate is $83/night - this > compares favorably to rates typically exceeding $120/night at that time of > year. > > I'd suggest you make your reservations now, as we have a limited room > block, > and will also open this up soon to the Triumph street car clubs. You can > cancel up until 24 hours before if plans change, with no penalty. If this > room block fills up, I hope to be able to expand it, but have also set up a > block at a Fairfield Inn for the same rate about one mile away. > > I'd also like to start getting a head count on who plans to race, > regardless > of where you stay. Please send me an email if you are planning to race. > sjanzen@me.com > > We're going to be posting updated information about the race weekend on > both > Kas' site and the FOT site, so please keep an eye on both of them starting > in > a few days. > > Thanks! > > Mention FOT if you call the hotel - the link takes you directly to > reservations for our room block. > Hampton Inn, Winchester Va. 540-678-4000 > > > http://hamptoninn.hilton.com/en/hp/groups/personalized/W/WNCHHHX-FOT-20150513 > /index.jhtml?WT.mc_id=POG > > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 14 07:51:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72D92584EDC for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 07:51:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85EAF2584BB1 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 07:51:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.99.30] (c-68-80-11-16.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [68.80.11.16]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NF100EEQAQYHB00@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:54:36 +0000 (GMT) From: Scott Janzen Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 09:55:07 -0500 References: <56592AA3-7B69-4537-A2FE-EDB0F59EA9DE@me.com> To: John Styduhar engine=2.50.10432:5.13.68,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-11-14_06:2014-11-14,2014-11-14,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1408290000 definitions=main-1411140119 Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2015 Host Hotel - Jefferson 500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net there will be more rooms available by the end of today, once the reservation system gets updated. Let me know if you have any problems. For the rest of you, the supply is truly limited, and it's a $50 discount per night to what is offered through the registration system without the FOT affiliation. Make your reservations now - you can cancel up to 24 hours before if you don't make it. Registration link is below. Triumph owners only, please! Don't pass this on to your MG friends as we will run out of rooms! On Nov 13, 2014, at 9:54 PM, John Styduhar wrote: Scott, the block of room reserved for the FOT are already taken, but the the hotel contact said you could call and reserve additional at the same price. Thanks On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Scott Janzen wrote: This is to announce the host hotel for the Kastner Cup at the Jefferson 500 at Summit Point, West Virginia next May 14-17. The hotel will be the Hampton Inn Winchester North, on I-81 about 20 minutes from the track, in Winchester, Virginia. The rate is $83/night - this compares favorably to rates typically exceeding $120/night at that time of year. I'd suggest you make your reservations now, as we have a limited room block, and will also open this up soon to the Triumph street car clubs. You can cancel up until 24 hours before if plans change, with no penalty. If this room block fills up, I hope to be able to expand it, but have also set up a block at a Fairfield Inn for the same rate about one mile away. I'd also like to start getting a head count on who plans to race, regardless of where you stay. Please send me an email if you are planning to race. sjanzen@me.com We're going to be posting updated information about the race weekend on both Kas' site and the FOT site, so please keep an eye on both of them starting in a few days. Thanks! Mention FOT if you call the hotel - the link takes you directly to reservations for our room block. Hampton Inn, Winchester Va. 540-678-4000 http://hamptoninn.hilton.com/en/hp/groups/personalized/W/WNCHHHX-FOT-20150513 /index.jhtml?WT.mc_id=POG _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 14 09:57:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB132584F05 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 09:57:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bcs.bcshost.com (bcs.bcshost.com [192.254.176.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D96525845B0 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 09:57:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from mail-ob0-f170.google.com ([209.85.214.170]:61022) by bcs.bcshost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1XpKEx-0000pd-GC for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:00:55 -0600 Received: by mail-ob0-f170.google.com with SMTP id nt9so14148314obb.1 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 09:00:54 -0800 (PST) Fri, 14 Nov 2014 09:00:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.240.107 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 09:00:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:00:54 -0600 From: Joe Alexander To: "fot@autox.team.net" with any abuse report joe@the-vintage-racer.com Subject: [Fot] Betaset.fr Parts distributor in France? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT, Anyone on this list familiar with this British Parts Distributor in France? Any information would be appreciated. Thanks, Joe A. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 14 14:13:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB962584895 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:13:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f171.google.com (mail-wi0-f171.google.com [209.85.212.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C4F2580A4B for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:13:26 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id r20so682305wiv.4 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 13:16:59 -0800 (PST) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=hpFkRGvi/SdJ1LuYNewWpAhadmFkpMZYlwRQ/VkADlk=; b=F9NNP3AtGfy8ghgchmOBthNe8c9rWm/Obr5rJb9ycoAo5jiulziGLdh1hxxxXd6dXO Kk6LcWGtW0s8KJTtPIrxuSGpOuCRiRYRdT4ahioLBF0IaT5atTDYqCVho3vIeuYnYEUW zGgjzEVVamxGCt5cNZ+fJ5ABdOsjr3TEgRU12hWycJgiisfiEeRN0FDCdQYVJSC9YCYU U8KPIQx5Gqk4e5kzTHwdYn7dqkNd975zpLqc5NTgFII6FJTanvznW9rPB6NPM5i4OvEo 97xTFkTC+EXrviSv5ye+YG1jBloGq+1y9QAK2nT4pejdj0LtRI8a1GfYD25t3RK4cN0L 6qFQ== q7mr1982281wiv.30.1415999819862; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 13:16:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.180.198 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 13:16:59 -0800 (PST) References: <58fb8.1238580.4196a660@aol.com> <4CB781BE-6E67-43F7-81B6-51B9A2EAA687@mhc-law.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 16:16:59 -0500 From: Matt Bakes To: John Hasty Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Close ratio needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I just got a set from Moss Matt Triumph Rescue 617 Walnut St. Bally, Pa. 19503 610-845-8217 www.triumphrescue.com British Wiring 617 Walnut St. P.O. Box 185 Bally, Pa. 19503 www.BritishWiring.com On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 9:30 PM, John Hasty wrote: > Think Gilanders still carries them > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 13, 2014, at 7:27 PM, "SpiwakD@aol.com" wrote: > > > > Need close ratio- gears or complete close-ratio trans for TR3/4. Dave > > Spiwak > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rustytr4@aol.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 14 14:20:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9BF25848F2 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:20:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm7-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm7-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.137]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9CF2580A4B for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:20:15 -0700 (MST) s=s2048; t=1416000229; bh=GpCjx0+UScq03QUs+b6sgJCoFA7cECc2yuPY92/2lEE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:From:Subject; b=uPBRTOojbVx7+1AK/e6e92gLQliqdCqtXTuf/U5yZbA+mvACamxJEYyDvQChdj6WyJNzhnoaErFXnJdRSoH1I3+zZ5/+3X48ZdXWpp+AUY413FkC+qFcruBHRlJ4ZI5WxPM3R6PzMVqMDvetmIa/GyrsWNz68GPQRgLhwWSnf7d6A0yfzXqXRD9eyUX/VeIWusOyZ41Ijc0hgjkKB9GV99a96NqjYN+D0e78SLgaSVI3kXYpFuohNdhX4iUj3xIH2IAdctKCuypG1y6x0JVCX1mT5JhIFYU5yydnnfnnPVHslTtdIub/bGv62WdEeNXc3vQ8WgaocrfQkGkFMLwkXQ== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=DV8nBQW7YN3S3VX4E8R60JJloFsfaTF+pdu+rtZREOuL9CBVvaVsD3qHzi1tEXtK0h4RnIqy/B4er4OoGGdu5kIpnXoXbJF8m0yMM4uMd7bsZq80buk7/K8lkyJEnPF61fXikWtG1+waBhzaUatuNZc930gq6yQFHK6mc9ZxOm752yBVNmD7+C6zF7HS3KmzySUXzrxgUJAnPjxPckkyPLIMF04PM4GdybdAIk+gyl19XsugtY6jN684/z/m7a1gYKv2ZXJUmjrqK9IEF41QREorhiuPe3PIwsBGh8J2mgk+0Uk49+rBYJafgCKaWlhC169MBxHvbBI5q4iC3KyNWA==; Received: from [98.138.226.177] by nm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2014 21:23:49 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.167] by tm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2014 21:23:49 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1068.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2014 21:23:49 -0000 YZC8s5og.WCkoBMvbxjEnmtXClRuTeA9liMv973fj3aQDbKlq6Iclve7.bLcjE1ORHdpCnkkxCvr KewQ1bTSOf0_.6uXZ8q8AShxU.g5W4IRbHj6mlT2zAyXctmVu7stIRY18Z7BYlAHgiplhX81ZUBC 2FHoSPZrgFwhkHX_54sXIsFnUbChC_OV1.63ssl86B5YMOYt4rXQ5ta.pFJnYGjJPq23KBnepwh. IkWhjampV55eP_YQehugTT1UfcHVjMnQHz.6ZsyAQnzg45AxsA.0yJp7_d0s1Bn.7HZ6XYOj6fnV rV4PaLQYEtioTrXP4J2CDSJpAHbrk1nwyG5oJh_7m6Bpgif7JslTnUHY_mbMI9ZrGLZhbcbjm0Rb GQko2._TbzJAVnE3b6m_CtLWmdTJ5KceDdUarjHu.xtZuUtmsiJVqoKaSbVyZUlTri6zanRrp6Lf myhiuZfam36NJc8f28jsLHtXJa8HTqNDxAd3xim3EDL1_v27goh_AsNW1M8.nnJba7Etd_8URBFc- Received: by 98.138.101.172; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 21:23:49 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 21:23:48 +0000 (UTC) From: Jamie Palmer To: FoT Triumph Subject: [Fot] MGB rear end needed (I know, heresy!) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone out there know of an MGB rear end (bolt on wheels) for sale, preferrably with limited slip? Yes, I know, it's not a Triumph...thank you anyway! This is to go under the Austin Marina racecar. B Now that you have finished laughing, feel free to laugh some more. http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/2013-LeMons-Legends-A ustin-Marina-626x426.jpg | B | | B | | B | B | B | B | B | | | | | | View on blog.caranddriver.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | B | Thanks! Jamie PalmerRiffRAF RacingAustin Powerless RacingRaleigh, NC _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 14 20:12:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93B82584646 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 20:12:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com (omr-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1F125802EE for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 20:11:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-maa02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-maa02.mx.aol.com [172.26.222.142]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A50C0703A8245; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 22:15:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.100.21.219] (mobile-166-173-056-203.mycingular.net [166.173.56.203]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-maa02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 4CA563800008C; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 22:15:06 -0500 (EST) From: John Frymark Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 21:15:00 -0600 To: "joe@the-vintage-racer.com" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1416021306; bh=SOnmmSUvaAhKRh4D+637ob5k3lrVfs8ozNMxWgnoQzA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=EH8IyuIulCwGR+YNm93XCD7nSGgFVo6B3wWzM6p3c9i3ZBR3CInGnxHEL8EKQDMDQ LsE166/itZ+vTXjgvnR3UBwicjpZscD+kPkGYBoYjPhU23n4716hW2p/ZkfxZaomyt ehPRKrL6vpgWN+ljnc+aBQOGHJfUd5cNPXPF3BS0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1ade8e5466c53a1e0e Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] France parts distributor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I googled and found this: l'Arc de Triomphe Hope it helps:) Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 15 11:45:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC70E2584628 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 11:45:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy6-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy6-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.39.168]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D75B62580882 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 11:45:39 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 31951 invoked by uid 0); 15 Nov 2014 18:49:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by gproxy6.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 15 Nov 2014 18:49:12 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw2 with id Fuoi1p00X1NzpT901uolk3; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 11:48:49 -0700 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=7FamQS1hFvh_yYkSHkEA:9 a=DWCWwL9lq7RGSqKw:21 a=FNB4ZxhYw6otLM3P:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=64899 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XpiOo-0008CL-4j for fot@autox.team.net; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 11:48:42 -0700 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 12:48:37 -0600 To: fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: [Fot] Parts from Wismer's stash Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have some parts from Bob Wismer's estate that I'd like to turn into cash for the family. I thought I'd mention them here before trying to go the e-bay route. Detroit Locker diff for TR-3/4/6 - had a failed Ring and Pinion and has some gouges on the outside. One of the Ring bolt holes has some damage, the rest of them look fine. Bearing surfaces look good. Marked as "good" on the box, and I believe it - most of the marks are cosmetic. These are hard to come by. Qty 2 10" Alfin rear brake drums. Despite being aluminum with big ol' fins on them they are surprisingly heavy. Seem rare as hens teeth too. Qty 1 72 spoke wire wheel, painted, used, splines seem to be in decent shape, haven't measured the rim width yet. Has an old Firestone tire on it which I need to have dismounted. Set of 4 brand new AE Hepolite 83mm pistons complete with 4 piston rings (has the lower oil control ring). Certainly not a race item but maybe a resto item for a TR2/3? These seem likely to need to go to e-bay. New LUK TR-4 stock clutch disk. Make me a fair offer on these and help Bob's estate (and spare me from e-bay!) :) Cheers, Tony Drews tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 15 11:48:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8309F25849F7 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 11:48:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.23.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E5ABF25802AF for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 11:48:46 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 30799 invoked by uid 0); 15 Nov 2014 18:52:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO CMOut01) (10.0.90.82) by gproxy4.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 15 Nov 2014 18:52:21 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by CMOut01 with id Furr1p0051NzpT901uruSq; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 11:51:54 -0700 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=5qWc_jxgVMOS1jaGsFoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=AeS8DETsHYgA:10 a=XDPTKXI7TIoA:10 a=UCQHGUoTN9EA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=64932 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XpiRq-0002lw-RK for fot@autox.team.net; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 11:51:50 -0700 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 12:51:46 -0600 To: fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: [Fot] Wismer's parts continued Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Forgot one: Apparently rebuilt "bull nose" starter - for an early TR-3? Looks new - painted black. I'm guessing I'll need to hit up the big Triumph list or e-bay for that one. Cheers, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 17 10:52:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7257B2584C20 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 10:52:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F5CB258055A for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 10:50:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from vwm26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (vwm26.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.10.56]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0NF700EJS32QERY0@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for FOT@autox.team.net; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 12:54:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from [67.83.138.143] by webtop.webmail.optimum.net with HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 12:54:26 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 12:54:26 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Redmond To: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Rack in a TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Friends, I have to shorten the TR4 steering rack to fit in the TR3. B I'd like to hear some suggestions on the best way to go about it. B I'm thinking of using heim joints. Thanks in advance Todd Redmond TS 29341 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 17 13:35:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B432580B32 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 13:35:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7522580951 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 13:35:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from new-host.home ([98.117.90.163]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NF700KQ2AOCEQC0@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for FOT@autox.team.net; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 14:38:38 -0600 (CST) a=AR1dG/TeJCF0fX33BA8WKQ==:117 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=pp0EunGtjWRPFd6hEx0A:9 a=6ljgpvIpDRIid_Hw:21 a=yYWKMa2NVz1L1iJK:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 From: Dean Tetterton Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 15:38:37 -0500 References: <5113c54d.267e4.149bee433ac.Webtop.56@optonline.net> To: Todd Redmond Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Rack in a TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Todd I would not advise you use a TR4 rack in a TR3. The TR4 is 4 inches wider than the TR3 so the rack is too long. If you shorten it by making the tie rods shorter, they end up too short and you will have terrible bump steer. That is as the suspension goes up or down the wheels will want to turn. The pivot for the tie rods should be in a straight line drawn from the inner pivots of the upper and lower A arms. The 4 inches must be taken out of the middle. Then you have to make sure the column will still line up with the pinion. Moss does sell a kit that works. The down side is you lose the signal lights and horn. Also must have a two piece steering coulmn. Dean T. On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Todd Redmond wrote: > Friends, > > > I have to shorten the TR4 steering rack to fit in the TR3. B I'd like to > hear some suggestions on the best way to go about it. B I'm thinking of > using heim joints. > > > Thanks in advance > Todd Redmond > TS 29341 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr3a58@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 17 13:55:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302322580993 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 13:55:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p01c12o142.mxlogic.net (p01c12o142.mxlogic.net [208.65.145.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CEA72580951 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 13:55:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO p01c12o142.mxlogic.net) by p01c12o142.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.2.0-0) with ESMTP id 0916a645.2b5bd4606940.26577.00-553.76918.p01c12o142.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Mon, 17 Nov 2014 13:58:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] by p01c12o142.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.2.0-0) with SMTP id f616a645.0.25952.00-287.75701.p01c12o142.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Mon, 17 Nov 2014 13:58:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::c824:a29e:45a5:b81c]) by ATLPEXCAS01.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 15:57:29 -0500 From: John Hasty To: Dean Tetterton Thread-Topic: [Fot] TR4 Rack in a TR3 Thread-Index: AQHQAqZ/ygoJcUFlzUyjFTt1VToVtZxlTOZh Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 20:57:29 +0000 References: <5113c54d.267e4.149bee433ac.Webtop.56@optonline.net>, <4DB9EBC7-E29C-40E8-BD54-9D59428C532D@verizon.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US a=VR8QHrWKYhK80xkEBGCjUg==] a=kj9] a=YlVTAMxI] a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 ] a=9VE-vkR-F] Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Rack in a TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Good advice Todd. Don't try it. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 17, 2014, at 3:38 PM, "Dean Tetterton" wrote: > > Todd > I would not advise you use a TR4 rack in a TR3. The TR4 is > 4 inches wider than the TR3 so the rack is too long. If you shorten > it by making the tie rods shorter, they end up too short and you > will have terrible bump steer. That is as the suspension goes up > or down the wheels will want to turn. The pivot for the tie rods > should be in a straight line drawn from the inner pivots of the > upper and lower A arms. The 4 inches must be taken out of > the middle. Then you have to make sure the column will > still line up with the pinion. Moss does sell a kit that works. > The down side is you lose the signal lights and > horn. Also must have a two piece steering coulmn. > > Dean T. > > >> On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Todd Redmond wrote: >> >> Friends, >> >> >> I have to shorten the TR4 steering rack to fit in the TR3. B I'd like to >> hear some suggestions on the best way to go about it. B I'm thinking of >> using heim joints. >> >> >> Thanks in advance >> Todd Redmond >> TS 29341 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr3a58@verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 17 17:39:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9774425844C1 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 17:39:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6614F2580B1A for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 17:39:19 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge03 smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.174.248] ([107.14.174.248:40037] helo=cdptpa-web10) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 4D/61-15257-E069A645; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 00:42:54 +0000 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 0:42:54 +0000 From: To: fot@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal Nov 2014 0:42:54 +0000 Subject: [Fot] First laps in my new TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks to Dave Foreman, racing here in his Porsche 914, I can watch some of the first two races I completed in the TR6 I bought from Sam Halkias. This is the ex-Mark Gerdes TR6 that Sam reworked into a "vintage" car; his definition, not one agreed to by most vintage club's. The car is outstanding but will need a 3:45 rear gear to take advantage of the straights and keep the rev's down. It was quite a treat to drive this car on a track I have raced as a momentum driver, attacking where I once carried speed. First racing laps in the TR6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNmXAZFtZ84 Second Race, same result. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fVlozw55bM Thanks Sam and Dave (yeah, I said that......) Bob Kramer rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 17 19:18:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C05C2584515 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 19:18:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p01c11o145.mxlogic.net (p01c11o145.mxlogic.net [208.65.144.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB5C25804CB for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 19:18:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO p01c11o145.mxlogic.net) by p01c11o145.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.2.0-0) with ESMTP id 03daa645.2ab49be12940.42473.00-520.114274.p01c11o145.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Mon, 17 Nov 2014 19:21:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] by p01c11o145.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.2.0-0) with SMTP id 42daa645.0.42432.00-361.114169.p01c11o145.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Mon, 17 Nov 2014 19:21:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::c824:a29e:45a5:b81c]) by ATLPEXCAS03.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 21:21:09 -0500 From: John Hasty To: "rkramer3@austin.rr.com" Thread-Topic: [Fot] First laps in my new TR6 Thread-Index: AQHQAsigFOykph3wc06J/mtlZUJM7pxlpw7U Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 02:21:08 +0000 References: <20141118004254.B8PAI.330613.root@cdptpa-web10> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US a=VR8QHrWKYhK80xkEBGCjUg==] a=kj9] a=YlVTAMxI] a=r1XoP-P_AAAA:2] a=_t] a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] First laps in my new TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bob is TWS closing? Have fond memories of hauling from Charlotte to run M C races there. My last race there was with the # 2 plate and a teenager named Feddy Spencer showed up. Needless to say # 2 is where I finished! Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 17, 2014, at 7:43 PM, "rkramer3@austin.rr.com" wrote: > > Thanks to Dave Foreman, racing here in his Porsche 914, I can watch some of the first two races I completed in the TR6 I bought from Sam Halkias. This is the ex-Mark Gerdes TR6 that Sam reworked into a "vintage" car; his definition, not one agreed to by most vintage club's. The car is outstanding but will need a 3:45 rear gear to take advantage of the straights and keep the rev's down. It was quite a treat to drive this car on a track I have raced as a momentum driver, attacking where I once carried speed. > > First racing laps in the TR6. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNmXAZFtZ84 > > Second Race, same result. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fVlozw55bM > > Thanks Sam and Dave (yeah, I said that......) > > Bob Kramer > rkramer3@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 17 19:36:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926512584645 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 19:36:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8945925804CB for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 19:36:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from [68.203.13.233] ([68.203.13.233:54773] helo=[192.168.2.12]) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 4D/08-31164-471BA645; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 02:39:49 +0000 References: <20141118004254.B8PAI.330613.root@cdptpa-web10> <665EBAE0-996B-4623-B633-10FC93652EC4@mhc-law.com> From: Bob Kramer Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 20:39:48 -0600 To: John Hasty Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] First laps in my new TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes , it will close next May. The last vintage race will be in February. We would love for FOT to come and race with us . It is preseason got most folks . Feb. 20-22, 2015 Spring Driverbs School & Races Cooper/Lotus Pablo Gonzalez Memorial Challenge (Final race at TWS) Texas World Speedway Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 17, 2014, at 8:21 PM, John Hasty wrote: > > Bob is TWS closing? Have fond memories of hauling from Charlotte to run M C races there. My last race there was with the # 2 plate and a teenager named Feddy Spencer showed up. Needless to say # 2 is where I finished! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 17, 2014, at 7:43 PM, "rkramer3@austin.rr.com" wrote: >> >> Thanks to Dave Foreman, racing here in his Porsche 914, I can watch some of the first two races I completed in the TR6 I bought from Sam Halkias. This is the ex-Mark Gerdes TR6 that Sam reworked into a "vintage" car; his definition, not one agreed to by most vintage club's. The car is outstanding but will need a 3:45 rear gear to take advantage of the straights and keep the rev's down. It was quite a treat to drive this car on a track I have raced as a momentum driver, attacking where I once carried speed. >> >> First racing laps in the TR6. >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNmXAZFtZ84 >> >> Second Race, same result. >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fVlozw55bM >> >> Thanks Sam and Dave (yeah, I said that......) >> >> Bob Kramer >> rkramer3@austin.rr.com >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 17 20:19:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A2C22584637 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 20:19:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.165]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6453258043B for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 20:19:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-po-18v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.242]) by resqmta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id GrNc1p0025E3ZMc01rNckp; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 03:22:36 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-503v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.178.3]) by resomta-po-18v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id GrNc1p00K04nC6y01rNcY8; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 03:22:36 +0000 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 03:22:36 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: "Kramer, Bob" References: <20141118004254.B8PAI.330613.root@cdptpa-web10> Thread-Topic: First laps in my new TR6 Thread-Index: 8hfJfUUBRcsBhWn7UDMjqg8LBl9fqA== s=q20140121; t=1416280956; bh=i9tKIoZE++Vx+Q+TFs1emXSsyJQZH0gzTvu2C/NM7W8=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=CA21/nQcvJhJ+5Uu75jPCTyUYHDrwR8dqfaw4r9ZM/XpVglAw7jfoDI3pWPEIlKaA pw3W7suMWGGZQOm+2n/zdAs84ka6IgQntBvKd05sQ2BIpkdE1uS/nq2zEvJ7CsXpBJ RwRdsanum8V6Gg2aG3d8enXDjSxCaZqzNYjbbyFS5Mgv8PyEdo8wri0oRrgTjQq/pJ guioH8wkNcEmpR9TAM/iMCcRSWLo3MTgpX1fbvfJY08rK0lVTncq86FiX3HwV8/ejV XHLKmym7GR7tyOouP49gZ03/6u35YnOZTZX5h9eqC48YTPK4F/zw+zrYsz7sg0bwYk lUs46JNfzIDbA== Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] First laps in my new TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Bob, Congratulations on the Halkias TR6 acquisition. Good for you. Must feel good pulling away from the field with all that power. Are you going to still race the 4 too? Best Regards, Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kramer, Bob" To: "Friends of Triumph" Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 4:42:54 PM Subject: [Fot] First laps in my new TR6 Thanks to Dave Foreman, racing here in his Porsche 914, I can watch some of the first two races I completed in the TR6 I bought from Sam Halkias. This is the ex-Mark Gerdes TR6 that Sam reworked into a "vintage" car; his definition, not one agreed to by most vintage club's. The car is outstanding but will need a 3:45 rear gear to take advantage of the straights and keep the rev's down. It was quite a treat to drive this car on a track I have raced as a momentum driver, attacking where I once carried speed. First racing laps in the TR6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNmXAZFtZ84 Second Race, same result. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fVlozw55bM Thanks Sam and Dave (yeah, I said that......) Bob Kramer rkramer3@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 17 21:05:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8FD25846F1 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 21:05:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p02c11o144.mxlogic.net (p02c11o144.mxlogic.net [208.65.144.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D40A9258043B for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 21:04:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO ATLPEXCAS02.xc.lan) by p02c11o144.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.2.0-0) with ESMTP id 236ca645.2b4be3a0a940.57779.00-586.152898.p02c11o144.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Mon, 17 Nov 2014 21:08:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO ATLPEXCAS02.xc.lan) by p02c11o144.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.2.0-0) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id c26ca645.0.57762.00-381.152847.p02c11o144.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Mon, 17 Nov 2014 21:08:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::c824:a29e:45a5:b81c]) by ATLPEXCAS02.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 23:07:58 -0500 From: John Hasty To: Bob Kramer Thread-Topic: [Fot] First laps in my new TR6 Thread-Index: AQHQAsigFOykph3wc06J/mtlZUJM7pxlpw7UgABZCQD//8TQAw== Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 04:07:57 +0000 References: <20141118004254.B8PAI.330613.root@cdptpa-web10> <665EBAE0-996B-4623-B633-10FC93652EC4@mhc-law.com>, <2F716490-C40B-4599-BB46-EFC6607F1532@austin.rr.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US a=VR8QHrWKYhK80xkEBGCjUg==] a=N65] a=YlVTAMxI] a=ZLgLAYX7AAAA:8] a=Jc] a=] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] First laps in my new TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Too bad....had my left souls Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 9:39 PM, "Bob Kramer" Yes , it will close next May. The last vintage race will be in February. We would love for FOT to come and race with us . It is preseason got most folks . Feb. 20-22, 2015 Spring Drivers School & Races Cooper/Lotus Pablo Gonzalez Memorial Challenge (Final race at TWS) Texas World Speedway Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 8:21 PM, John Hasty Bob is TWS closing? Have fond memories of hauling from Charlotte to run M C races there. My last race there was with the # 2 plate and a teenager named Feddy Spencer showed up. Needless to say # 2 is where I finished! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 7:43 PM, Thanks to Dave Foreman, racing here in his Porsche 914, I can watch some of the first two races I completed in the TR6 I bought from Sam Halkias. This is the ex-Mark Gerdes TR6 that Sam reworked into a "vintage" car; his definition, not one agreed to by most vintage club's. The car is outstanding but will need a 3:45 rear gear to take advantage of the straights and keep the rev's down. It was quite a treat to drive this car on a track I have raced as a momentum driver, attacking where I once carried speed. First racing laps in the TR6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNmXAZFtZ84 Second Race, same result. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fVlozw55bM Thanks Sam and Dave (yeah, I said that......) Bob Kramer _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 17 21:08:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E67D62584711 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 21:08:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p02c11o145.mxlogic.net (p02c11o145.mxlogic.net [208.65.144.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68AA725845ED for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 21:06:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO ATLPEXCAS01.xc.lan) by p02c11o145.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.2.0-0) with ESMTP id bb6ca645.2b4d29c35940.79085.00-587.209991.p02c11o145.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Mon, 17 Nov 2014 21:10:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO ATLPEXCAS01.xc.lan) by p02c11o145.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.2.0-0) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id 4b6ca645.0.79046.00-380.209913.p02c11o145.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Mon, 17 Nov 2014 21:10:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::c824:a29e:45a5:b81c]) by ATLPEXCAS01.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 23:10:11 -0500 From: John Hasty To: Bob Kramer Thread-Topic: [Fot] First laps in my new TR6 Thread-Index: AQHQAsigFOykph3wc06J/mtlZUJM7pxlpw7UgABZCQD//8VvLQ== Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 04:10:11 +0000 References: <20141118004254.B8PAI.330613.root@cdptpa-web10> <665EBAE0-996B-4623-B633-10FC93652EC4@mhc-law.com>, <2F716490-C40B-4599-BB46-EFC6607F1532@austin.rr.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US a=VR8QHrWKYhK80xkEBGCjUg==] a=N65] a=YlVTAMxI] a=ZLgLAYX7AAAA:8] a=Jc] a=] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] First laps in my new TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Oh well, these hand held devices will be the in-doing of us all... New shoulder will keep me close to home in Feb Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 9:39 PM, "Bob Kramer" Yes , it will close next May. The last vintage race will be in February. We would love for FOT to come and race with us . It is preseason got most folks . Feb. 20-22, 2015 Spring Drivers School & Races Cooper/Lotus Pablo Gonzalez Memorial Challenge (Final race at TWS) Texas World Speedway Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 8:21 PM, John Hasty Bob is TWS closing? Have fond memories of hauling from Charlotte to run M C races there. My last race there was with the # 2 plate and a teenager named Feddy Spencer showed up. Needless to say # 2 is where I finished! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2014, at 7:43 PM, Thanks to Dave Foreman, racing here in his Porsche 914, I can watch some of the first two races I completed in the TR6 I bought from Sam Halkias. This is the ex-Mark Gerdes TR6 that Sam reworked into a "vintage" car; his definition, not one agreed to by most vintage club's. The car is outstanding but will need a 3:45 rear gear to take advantage of the straights and keep the rev's down. It was quite a treat to drive this car on a track I have raced as a momentum driver, attacking where I once carried speed. First racing laps in the TR6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNmXAZFtZ84 Second Race, same result. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fVlozw55bM Thanks Sam and Dave (yeah, I said that......) Bob Kramer _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 17 21:20:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6C8258472B for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 21:20:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm38-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm38-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6376258472B for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 21:20:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm38.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Nov 2014 04:24:05 -0000 Received: from [98.138.100.102] by nm38.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Nov 2014 04:21:20 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.173] by tm101.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Nov 2014 04:21:20 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.163] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Nov 2014 04:21:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1029.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Nov 2014 04:21:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 4138 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Nov 2014 04:21:19 -0000 s=s1024; t=1416284479; bh=Ds/2JHCiMwTF9BPaStC4AHpkO2sqDEdxfb2FUze38l0=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Vy6Yudc1kL2XWXSnFa9K2A1MKP50anUO6riX/03mviZjJ4Y+Kh0Y0r5mzuA9z2/czxeXHNokyY8R/MbZqHepniH9WZnM67EVli7yXGHmb+E12AeaAML72dfPbiLnuwR/7M7oKfOxXw+Jp86fAZxKVeX6LTZtqtLVOXOXYwJvATY= 3Ih4yFQV915M88qof7pgd6j4r4yxau4F0t8R0Qw4G59wmA5.QZQMc486L_HX HEgX85ija3YqSNH_cRQVDD7L3KHUNVtV6wAS6g4zIx.pScr9JQF3TsJSUSOK 5TbsvWXB7y1S8VCEUZpFuALstZBB6QMpQUtur9dXMGoePdd1Ae8fse0Sqzq6 2Le9ot6D0LVCaUiRvf.yATDbGcg74pXCmTcQDxMw27.3n8I3plZqSithuiZm S.45CYFRB7O_6uZiVHG71VUazSNRxW3y12Nijz0j9b4HE6EhaFQ67.OvFdez qkEtfXVe3zxpf5M7RnfpSHD4Sh5C4hiXwce2Xm3fLC1jxb3H4S928WxqmID5 Po1S4RqBKtx5vIYacf_EJ8hOAtlugDQbHgTVsB8qCcazYA4MXaU9ajoO.AKd 8E0_Or6bsxXU_w_kaN_nF.GiUgTEkkt3bE.rrbw3VjMxeaGdSgY_ixqwFkPT 2attyR_T95ot3pFb9LLFv3_iB7T6RBH.NwzCGrQ63dZA3ue55EU0lrX7RVb1 jrMH1ML5bnSJjmxxettRBiNIfcqoNwVFX._OMo1No7T2UifDQkmGR.VWSiUI 6HVid5vSa7x8gjAJnlc3rBBBcCv1DDfwRxg-- Received: from [99.71.118.129] by web184703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 20:21:19 PST SSByZW1lbWJlciB1c2luZyBhIFNwaXRmaXJlIHJhY2sgYW5kIG9ubHkgc2hvcnRlbmluZyB0aGUgcm9kcy4gSSBkaWQgaGF2ZSB0byBjaGFuZ2UgdGhlIFRSMydzIHN0ZWVyaW5nIGFybXMgYmVjYXVzZSB0aGUgcGlucyBpbiB0aGUgcm9kIGVuZHMgYXJlIGEgZGlmZmVyZW50IGRpYW1ldGVyLgotRWQtCgoKT24gTW9uZGF5LCBOb3ZlbWJlciAxNywgMjAxNCAyOjU5IFBNLCBKb2huIEhhc3R5IDxqaGFzdHlAbWhjLWxhdy5jb20.IHdyb3RlOgogCgoKCkdvb2QgYWR2aWNlIFRvZGQuICBEb24ndCB0cnkgaXQuCgoBMAEBAQE- References: <5113c54d.267e4.149bee433ac.Webtop.56@optonline.net>, <4DB9EBC7-E29C-40E8-BD54-9D59428C532D@verizon.net> <42124107-FA37-4111-A4B5-A92EEC309B5E@mhc-law.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 20:21:19 -0800 From: EDWARD BARNARD To: John Hasty , Dean Tetterton Cc: "FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Rack in a TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I remember using a Spitfire rack and only shortening the rods. I did have to change the TR3's steering arms because the pins in the rod ends are a different diameter. -Ed- On Monday, November 17, 2014 2:59 PM, John Hasty wrote: Good advice Todd. Don't try it. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 17, 2014, at 3:38 PM, "Dean Tetterton" wrote: > > Todd > I would not advise you use a TR4 rack in a TR3. The TR4 is > 4 inches wider than the TR3 so the rack is too long. If you shorten > it by making the tie rods shorter, they end up too short and you > will have terrible bump steer. That is as the suspension goes up > or down the wheels will want to turn. The pivot for the tie rods > should be in a straight line drawn from the inner pivots of the > upper and lower A arms. The 4 inches must be taken out of > the middle. Then you have to make sure the column will > still line up with the pinion. Moss does sell a kit that works. > The down side is you lose the signal lights and > horn. Also must have a two piece steering coulmn. > > Dean T. > > >> On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Todd Redmond wrote: >> >> Friends, >> >> >> I have to shorten the TR4 steering rack to fit in the TR3. B I'd like to >> hear some suggestions on the best way to go about it. B I'm thinking of >> using heim joints. >> >> >> Thanks in advance >> Todd Redmond >> TS 29341 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com/ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr3a58@verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 18 10:03:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F1E25845EC for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 10:03:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E68C5258071F for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 10:03:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-ch2-20v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.116]) by resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id H54r1p0042XD5SV0156eov; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:06:38 +0000 Received: from WalterPC ([73.26.120.184]) by resomta-ch2-20v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id H56c1p00c3yo8ZD0156dBd; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:06:38 +0000 From: "Walter Hollowell" To: Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 10:06:37 -0700 Thread-Index: AdADUakMFRQtgqTmSM6KS21MsW1piQ== Content-Language: en-us s=q20140121; t=1416330398; bh=BkTYXL7YFVP/NoF7thOXNVf7bBvjEkTmG6vTM6UEYJ0=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=rdToqey6X7yNGxR4FEfoN2qrmm405hOUJX1MBF/erxd8OI6UcT/NAJMhjZkaZIqnz 7YId+OKVatPNcheMp1+of8MaWnD654TR3NEpl6jDd47qCTh52uX3e2cFUWl8FHb6He 6IbJs24xq2dtLc5Rtb7TtqtV7jXRN1DiZ9SMgrgUp/IwJGNgP6OqQOJ+Qdqk8SkzIB O6xMHb2jL8tAmfC35RVJg9soFuoRrdEBtvBcLUsItI6QfAr0NFi75uOcjmVYLeZkBE sEBKGnvA9J5uIDCzGpFixpXYengAHtfcLi9SIh1d5pFv3ADaUymblEYlhX4Tt3sAsv 81WC5yzGm6QRA== Subject: [Fot] Panasport Wheels Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone at FOT know what an offset 11 means when it comes to Panasport wheel specs? Thanks Walt Hollowell Albuquerque, NM _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 18 11:11:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32EEE25848D2 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 11:11:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from andre.telenet-ops.be (andre.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 786EE2580B26 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 11:10:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from GebruikerPC ([IPv6:2a02:1812:a8f:c00:1da2:62d6:2c49:2bcc]) by andre.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id H6E01p00P35rVXx016E3jC; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 19:14:03 +0100 From: "Marcel Van Mulders" To: Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 19:13:56 +0100 Thread-Index: AdAC54oEVrzQMBn9T1OwGZmSK+xT1gAcj5mQAABmakA= Subject: [Fot] FW: TR4 Rack in a TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Marcel Van Mulders [mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be] Verzonden: dinsdag 18 november 2014 19:10 Aan: 'EDWARD BARNARD' Onderwerp: RE: [Fot] TR4 Rack in a TR3 I once used a TR7 rack in my TR3 : it was possible to swap drop links from a TR6 to the TR7 rack and get the correct length of these drop links to avoid bump steer (length of the drop links should be about 19.5 cm,but correct length alone is not enough, the rack has to be located in the right position : trial and error works well enough. Marcel -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens EDWARD BARNARD Verzonden: dinsdag 18 november 2014 5:21 Aan: John Hasty; Dean Tetterton CC: FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] TR4 Rack in a TR3 I remember using a Spitfire rack and only shortening the rods. I did have to change the TR3's steering arms because the pins in the rod ends are a different diameter. -Ed- On Monday, November 17, 2014 2:59 PM, John Hasty wrote: Good advice Todd. Don't try it. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 17, 2014, at 3:38 PM, "Dean Tetterton" wrote: > > Todd > I would not advise you use a TR4 rack in a TR3. The TR4 is > 4 inches wider than the TR3 so the rack is too long. If you shorten it > by making the tie rods shorter, they end up too short and you will > have terrible bump steer. That is as the suspension goes up or down > the wheels will want to turn. The pivot for the tie rods should be in > a straight line drawn from the inner pivots of the upper and lower A > arms. The 4 inches must be taken out of the middle. Then you have to > make sure the column will still line up with the pinion. Moss does > sell a kit that works. > The down side is you lose the signal lights and horn. Also > must have a two piece steering coulmn. > > Dean T. > > >> On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Todd Redmond wrote: >> >> Friends, >> >> >> I have to shorten the TR4 steering rack to fit in the TR3. B I'd like >> to hear some suggestions on the best way to go about it. B I'm >> thinking of using heim joints. >> >> >> Thanks in advance >> Todd Redmond >> TS 29341 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com/ >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr3a58@verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com/ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/edwardbarnard@prodigy.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 19 10:59:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0CD25848B0 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 10:59:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-08v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-08v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.167]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D60258449C for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 10:59:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.236]) by resqmta-po-08v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id HW1d1p00A56HXL001W2hYH; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:02:41 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-162v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.48.196]) by resomta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id HW2h1p00Q4DyWjm01W2hMK; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:02:41 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:02:40 +0000 (UTC) From: cudapilot@comcast.net To: billdentin@aol.com References: <9baae.7175686c.416e891a@aol.com> <543DC922.5050905@bradakis.com> (Win)/8.0.7_GA_6031) Thread-Topic: Bob Wismer Decals Thread-Index: BgUgsROrjoDXcVjdBaFSCs4wRXxD7Q== s=q20140121; t=1416420161; bh=UGi5xI/cI33v+oYy8WOTxLNH6lBDzcevhOEX9lmwLIU=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=BOj2skyQCLIw2P4LvFh5lL0tro7Dqn0GJX3ovNMEua6fiDBdv4RszX2vOAQsX0w0T f2S1c5wdHKt2ycENaC0keilaawR9xvn1NctC2cT2ffOKBLrXLrecrCiDZlauBuCn8R K4/RpSXrXSXml2muq16P5FE0m5wBpQy+p2T13t5CDG4DbfU2ExDqRd2HQuOsVfSmQp rZTu5K5MJcqLYAx+fgUG9vX8AsIobUeZKVBhQp2j36wROqEw+JMjBbA6VErdLrjhke OAF4yqy89QWE04IRNsVM67s1i5qw2hnUE2jivbw8tgYUN2/zcqFFJiZJ7hbEKhz7rg QOEnlouwm9p1g== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Bob Wismer Decals Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici- B For those that would like a small reminder of Bob and his Blue #4 on the track with them, I had some decals made for our race cars.B Please email me your address and I'll mail one out to you.B TheyB have Bob's name, car number and livery, and the words "Semper Amicus Triumphi".B B Hope you are all staying warm. B Brian Garcia Friendly Ghost Racing cudapilot@comcast.net B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J Bradakis" To: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 8:08:50 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Bob Wismer's Services... BillDentin@aol.com wrote: B B > The service and burial yesterday was also well attended and very moving. > Bob Wismer had been cremated, his ashes were buried in the family's cemetery > plat. B I made a comment at the graveside service that it was a pity that > some of Bob's ashes did not make it up to Road America to be deposited at his > 'granite monument.' B Daughter Pam looked at me, winked and said, "That's > gonna happen!" It is a good thing I am such a cold hearted bastard, otherwise my eyes might have teared up a bit reading this. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cudapilot@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 19 13:02:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258102584A1F for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:02:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from e9.ny.us.ibm.com (e9.ny.us.ibm.com [32.97.182.139]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABAAF2584971 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:02:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from /spool/local by e9.ny.us.ibm.com with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! 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Violators will be prosecuted; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:05:48 -0500 Received: from b01cxnp23032.gho.pok.ibm.com (b01cxnp23032.gho.pok.ibm.com [9.57.198.27]) by d01dlp01.pok.ibm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D8B38C806D for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:05:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from d01av03.pok.ibm.com (d01av03.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.217]) by b01cxnp23032.gho.pok.ibm.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id sAJK5Y2620316234 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 20:05:34 GMT Received: from d01av03.pok.ibm.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by d01av03.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id sAJK5V1Y002858 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:05:31 -0500 Received: from d01ml099.pok.ibm.com (d01ml099.pok.ibm.com [9.63.8.34]) by d01av03.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/NCO v10.0 AVin) with ESMTP id sAJK5TRn002622 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:05:29 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net From: George Harmuth Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:05:28 -0500 9.0.1FP1|April 03, 2014) at 11/19/2014 15:05:31 x-cbid: 14111920-0033-0000-0000-00000119B321 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire race car on eBay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net 65 Spit race car on Flea Bay, NFI, know nothing about it, thought I'd pass it on. A project with what looks like a ton of spares. I have a VIN Correct 1965 Triumph Spitfire, it has been a race car since the early 70's and was last raced in 1976, since then it's undergone a total restoration. This is perfect for the offseason to get ready for spring! I have had it for around 4 years. It has primarily been raced on the west coast. Have SCCA logbooks from all race history and parts purchased during that period. I recently acquired a TVR and made a deal with my wife to sell the Spitfire. So unfortunately I have to let her go, but all is not lost since I have my TVR. This car is basically ready to just be put together. I've gone through and put grade 8 bolts through all the suspension front/rear. My brother built a custom aluminum panel to go on the firewall for strength. I never got around to finishing the car since I had too many other projects going on. It has sat in storage and my fathers garage since I've owned it. I honestly thought I had a title for it i've scoured all my paperwork and can't seem to find it. When i brought the car home there was so much to go through I may have just misplaced it, but i'm listing the item as not having a title and will continue to look for it. The roll-cage has been built from the ground up by the prior owner who did a beautiful job. It may not meet certain requirements for specific racing leagues, but for SCCA Autocross it should be 100% legit which was my original intention. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Triumph-Spitfire-Open-Cockpit-Racecar-1965-triumph-sp itfire-vintage-racecar-/231394296902?forcerrptr=true&hash=item35e02cc446&item =231394296902&pt=US_Cars_Trucks mike h G. Michael Harmuth _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 19 13:21:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80C12584BB6 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:21:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E85225844B5 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:20:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::c167:89f3:ca7b:1966]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::c167:89f3:ca7b:1966%13]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:24:29 -0600 From: "Barr, Scott" To: 'George Harmuth' Thread-Topic: [Fot] Spitfire race car on eBay Thread-Index: AQHQBDRRGWdCUlFV50+hRsTgCzTg/pxoZOXA Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 20:24:28 +0000 References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.52] Cc: triumph friends Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire race car on eBay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net << made a deal with my wife to sell the Spitfire. So unfortunately I have to let her go >> Well, I'm sure you'll miss her, but you can always marry again. Scott B. -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of George Harmuth Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 2:05 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Spitfire race car on eBay 65 Spit race car on Flea Bay, NFI, know nothing about it, thought I'd pass it on. A project with what looks like a ton of spares. I have a VIN Correct 1965 Triumph Spitfire, it has been a race car since the early 70's and was last raced in 1976, since then it's undergone a total restoration. This is perfect for the offseason to get ready for spring! I have had it for around 4 years. It has primarily been raced on the west coast. Have SCCA logbooks from all race history and parts purchased during that period. I recently acquired a TVR and made a deal with my wife to sell the Spitfire. So unfortunately I have to let her go, but all is not lost since I have my TVR. This car is basically ready to just be put together. I've gone through and put grade 8 bolts through all the suspension front/rear. My brother built a custom aluminum panel to go on the firewall for strength. I never got around to finishing the car since I had too many other projects going on. It has sat in storage and my fathers garage since I've owned it. I honestly thought I had a title for it i've scoured all my paperwork and can't seem to find it. When i brought the car home there was so much to go through I may have just misplaced it, but i'm listing the item as not having a title and will continue to look for it. The roll-cage has been built from the ground up by the prior owner who did a beautiful job. It may not meet certain requirements for specific racing leagues, but for SCCA Autocross it should be 100% legit which was my original intention. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Triumph-Spitfire-Open-Cockpit-Racecar-1965-triumph-sp itfire-vintage-racecar-/231394296902?forcerrptr=true&hash=item35e02cc446&item =231394296902&pt=US_Cars_Trucks mike h G. Michael Harmuth _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sbarr@mccarty-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 19 13:54:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 711B1258453E for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:54:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC1S33.hotmail.com (blu004-omc1s33.hotmail.com [65.55.116.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F9B25807C4 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:54:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU180-W17 ([65.55.116.8]) by BLU004-OMC1S33.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Wed, 19 Nov 2014 12:58:07 -0800 From: Chuck WATSON To: George Harmuth , FOT List Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:58:06 -0500 References: FILETIME=[84D5CC90:01D0043B] Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire race car on eBay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone know who sells those acrylic headlight covers shown on the Ebay car? Thanks, Chuck Watson > To: fot@autox.team.net > From: harmug@us.ibm.com > Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:05:28 -0500 > Subject: [Fot] Spitfire race car on eBay > > 65 Spit race car on Flea Bay, NFI, know nothing about it, thought I'd pass > it on. A project with what looks like a ton of spares. > > I have a VIN Correct 1965 Triumph Spitfire, it has been a race car since > the early 70's and was last raced in 1976, since then it's undergone a > total restoration. This is perfect for the offseason to get ready for > spring! > I have had it for around 4 years. It has primarily been raced on the west > coast. > > Have SCCA logbooks from all race history and parts purchased during that > period. I recently acquired a TVR and made a deal with my wife to sell the > Spitfire. So unfortunately I have to let her go, but all is not lost since > I have my TVR. > This car is basically ready to just be put together. I've gone through and > put grade 8 bolts through all the suspension front/rear. My brother built a > custom aluminum panel to go on the firewall for strength. I never got > around to finishing the car since I had too many other projects going on. > It has sat in storage and my fathers garage since I've owned it. I > honestly thought I had a title for it i've scoured all my paperwork and > can't seem to find it. When i brought the car home there was so much to go > through I may have just misplaced it, but i'm listing the item as not > having a title and will continue to look for it. > > The roll-cage has been built from the ground up by the prior owner who did > a beautiful job. It may not meet certain requirements for specific racing > leagues, but for SCCA Autocross it should be 100% legit which was my > original intention. > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Triumph-Spitfire-Open-Cockpit-Racecar-1965-triumph-sp > itfire-vintage-racecar-/231394296902?forcerrptr=true&hash=item35e02cc446&item > =231394296902&pt=US_Cars_Trucks > > mike h > > > G. Michael Harmuth > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/clw2000@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 19 14:50:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C2A25809EC for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:50:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996F7258069C for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:49:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from [216.39.60.170] by nm19.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2014 21:53:21 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.243] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2014 21:53:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1014.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2014 21:53:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 25823 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Nov 2014 21:53:20 -0000 s=s1024; t=1416434000; bh=/rLaVEsmH9WkutK9iBQeBo7KcY90F8T55rWXI/MDUlo=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=akmynR2esLD7tT9b1bv03rnOLke5eYqI88xmoFL1TjzO9uWUZtgKEuKhyeJSzmt/EIyNxYJ8U0pmEM7ChowKNsTo69ds+YK36gdjwyDIckA2R0/hWd8o/GAaBKfJxOwKE40w7kOen8Bzl3CUQQdIBNphJRNyLRi8WLZrUD0enSc= cuhBHXj9HtkUZIA8fOtiQz5_CHdieEeGf3Z8sf4yHHY.DAf1QwX1bvybKTuX q84P0i2xIL0BCkCV6FBe45YMx1shY6662sk4wP7n6bhpr1IazAvsmp72ApAu Jw9hhvBRTKGlWRQjMfZ2.jQSow_X5ZxcPM7hx08Dbxte9HVkcsIs5yGYALem S.aRbbZe97fdRU6KM3s7TyUUjbdwllC2mqSfpBN8xOnUDXFIwBTnUAJ.t75m .NlyQidCV020EfVm8LHSkUk8P5uMEj8ke1w4dNAYva_nJdvjHXJZKSWA3bIz PBn5Lut7D7McQvovspxOafMw7gYHRtGjvQfCKmqJ17iLdzU11SV9BfaoRKRU svdAaqBm7fd8U9wfEPsaIY5V0qiXNnw7i9LjMGC41ujFVAljSveZI8g64RsH 9Ue1xXqdzwRMNw5eskhV.y3cigXlAMe8oRZ4CRWEN4463CrbjISvTNpko_q_ XXopClNrXwRuBpIwxdafZmYeV_5MBxexr5Q1wBO5NayhfJiWn7axp1q5E4rO hst4Y6LJL9EfO37UcKvuwBx7aYZTrGgt_TN8RZxL8Dc_jM8t4zqPaTCERszg XoZNJwX00FGfRlvE6AA9Ltbdfy1852Tpc9pWziqjNkQ.kXKe14Hb9frXUBA4 xPNtH Received: from [99.4.184.201] by web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:53:20 PST VmljdG9yaWEgQnJpdGlzaAoKCgpPbiBXZWRuZXNkYXksIE5vdmVtYmVyIDE5LCAyMDE0IDM6NTggUE0sIENodWNrIFdBVFNPTiA8Y2x3MjAwMEBtc24uY29tPiB3cm90ZToKIAoKCkFueW9uZSBrbm93IHdobyBzZWxscyB0aG9zZSBhY3J5bGljIGhlYWRsaWdodCBjb3ZlcnMgc2hvd24gb24gdGhlIEViYXkgY2FyPwoKVGhhbmtzLApDaHVjayBXYXRzb24KCgo.IFRvOiBmb3RAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQKPiBGcm9tOiBoYXJtdWdAdXMuaWJtLmNvbQo.IERhdGU6IFdlZCwgMTkgTm92IDIwMTQgMTU6MDU6MjggLTABMAEBAQE- References: Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:53:20 -0800 From: Rick Parent To: Chuck WATSON , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire race car on eBay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Victoria British On Wednesday, November 19, 2014 3:58 PM, Chuck WATSON wrote: Anyone know who sells those acrylic headlight covers shown on the Ebay car? Thanks, Chuck Watson > To: fot@autox.team.net > From: harmug@us.ibm.com > Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:05:28 -0500 > Subject: [Fot] Spitfire race car on eBay > > 65 Spit race car on Flea Bay, NFI, know nothing about it, thought I'd pass > it on. A project with what looks like a ton of spares. > > I have a VIN Correct 1965 Triumph Spitfire, it has been a race car since > the early 70's and was last raced in 1976, since then it's undergone a > total restoration. This is perfect for the offseason to get ready for > spring! > I have had it for around 4 years. It has primarily been raced on the west > coast. > > Have SCCA logbooks from all race history and parts purchased during that > period. I recently acquired a TVR and made a deal with my wife to sell the > Spitfire. So unfortunately I have to let her go, but all is not lost since > I have my TVR. > This car is basically ready to just be put together. I've gone through and > put grade 8 bolts through all the suspension front/rear. My brother built a > custom aluminum panel to go on the firewall for strength. I never got > around to finishing the car since I had too many other projects going on. > It has sat in storage and my fathers garage since I've owned it. I > honestly thought I had a title for it i've scoured all my paperwork and > can't seem to find it. When i brought the car home there was so much to go > through I may have just misplaced it, but i'm listing the item as not > having a title and will continue to look for it. > > The roll-cage has been built from the ground up by the prior owner who did > a beautiful job. It may not meet certain requirements for specific racing > leagues, but for SCCA Autocross it should be 100% legit which was my > original intention. > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Triumph-Spitfire-Open-Cockpit-Racecar-1965-triumph-sp > itfire-vintage-racecar-/231394296902?forcerrptr=true&hash=item35e02cc446&item > =231394296902&pt=US_Cars_Trucks > > mike h > > > G. Michael Harmuth > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/clw2000@msn.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 19 14:52:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E6B25844B5 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:52:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f44.google.com (mail-qa0-f44.google.com [209.85.216.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C47C2580969 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:52:28 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id i13so1110113qae.3 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:56:05 -0800 (PST) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=2oiUI2ljNeF73r9uwFOlqURi4nBwydh9KTSzhMMPuUg=; b=kt/XMZ8UUcaRKaRIdWufvN2ja5qQ5WmZRjDTwnUtncQDyZQ59HZlEvLkwGAqVe0y+c 8eZxzB5/lvhm6nS5NkRqV+esboc8VFAySExHfugfq3hwt3fWoX35ibQgat+zw0EUNTXV 1rsyNgAUftto7iFhsMAwPRy8jf4fzVl9m542P+5bwCx+yxfBkNYC68YdddcurJ27LijA kPCxWkhoZbG5/Lp0Ilv6IOVWOIO5HpTcZ/SXMHlnxL+W5Am8rAk6sU9rI3lMgx4FQDOo yN0NujLpxebjdbL46mIgqYGE74/4Pk/5PUtbM1N4rIohfBqCbCyI4TX1pLqpF93vlmpl NzGQ== 5mr56213846qas.74.1416434165354; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:56:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.36.208 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:56:05 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:56:05 -0600 From: Jason Ostrowski To: Chuck WATSON Cc: FOT List , George Harmuth Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire race car on eBay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sidenote: This car holds a world record for the "worlds largest dash mounted warning lite" Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Chuck WATSON wrote: > Anyone know who sells those acrylic headlight covers shown on the Ebay car? > > Thanks, > Chuck Watson > > > > To: fot@autox.team.net > > From: harmug@us.ibm.com > > Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:05:28 -0500 > > Subject: [Fot] Spitfire race car on eBay > > > > 65 Spit race car on Flea Bay, NFI, know nothing about it, thought I'd > pass > > it on. A project with what looks like a ton of spares. > > > > I have a VIN Correct 1965 Triumph Spitfire, it has been a race car since > > the early 70's and was last raced in 1976, since then it's undergone a > > total restoration. This is perfect for the offseason to get ready for > > spring! > > I have had it for around 4 years. It has primarily been raced on the > west > > coast. > > > > Have SCCA logbooks from all race history and parts purchased during that > > period. I recently acquired a TVR and made a deal with my wife to sell > the > > Spitfire. So unfortunately I have to let her go, but all is not lost > since > > I have my TVR. > > This car is basically ready to just be put together. I've gone through > and > > put grade 8 bolts through all the suspension front/rear. My brother > built a > > custom aluminum panel to go on the firewall for strength. I never got > > around to finishing the car since I had too many other projects going on. > > It has sat in storage and my fathers garage since I've owned it. I > > honestly thought I had a title for it i've scoured all my paperwork and > > can't seem to find it. When i brought the car home there was so much to > go > > through I may have just misplaced it, but i'm listing the item as not > > having a title and will continue to look for it. > > > > The roll-cage has been built from the ground up by the prior owner who > did > > a beautiful job. It may not meet certain requirements for specific > racing > > leagues, but for SCCA Autocross it should be 100% legit which was my > > original intention. > > > > > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Triumph-Spitfire-Open-Cockpit-Racecar-1965-triumph-sp > > > > itfire-vintage-racecar-/231394296902?forcerrptr=true&hash=item35e02cc446&item > > =231394296902&pt=US_Cars_Trucks > > > > mike h > > > > > > G. Michael Harmuth > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/clw2000@msn.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 19 19:51:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE06E258446E for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 19:51:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f180.google.com (mail-lb0-f180.google.com [209.85.217.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07BAD258446E for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 19:50:47 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-lb0-f180.google.com with SMTP id z11so1503047lbi.25 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:54:23 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vax5TUAcmBPKJMe8Lc3KaZe9l0IbSeBtDFCu2RIF7CA=; b=BDnQYWe/fXtLb5FTIMrRAAl8MKISNeHlIyVorPYLFyndk28A32dX5jBhsvXDPGeJam WaLxuUatuq6MwC7OCq/D0uKZvkRewm+y0/MCh+iArLfOcEgUt2jxkVocLkh9PbP01PoG 6fYcKkFwn1zz3PF11E3zIkN/EWmisRPthrX+iYiGd7rb/tEhl6kQEmyB9Gyoss+em0r8 bHMRlw6C7599tpayVgMUOBFvN2G0r35lyBZjiqnz/lUHVRUamZIHMDBQ2niEDfipg5kA f5SzHv4sIqIbiR9WND4ftO0/HEbLC9lACf384gQAVsg3FE9RQ/hDPpGr95RuEVsuauI2 uTAw== l3mr8772870lag.49.1416452063262; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:54:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.25.90.77 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:54:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 21:54:23 -0500 From: Dick Stockton To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] Track day in-car from NJMP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I let Kyle Disque take my car out for a spin this past weekend to do some testing. Kyle for the most part grew up at my shop. Enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKsjd_D-bPM (change the quality using the little 'gear' below the video, it can be viewed in 1080) Dick _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 20 14:17:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C04C925844CE for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:17:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C06392580965 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:14:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.48.159.173] (mobile-166-170-033-024.mycingular.net [166.170.33.24]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.33.0 64bit (built Aug 27 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NFC0067UWHWN2A0@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 21:17:58 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.13.68,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-11-20_08:2014-11-20,2014-11-20,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1408290000 definitions=main-1411200166 From: SCOTT JANZEN Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 16:17:55 -0500 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Need a place to park a car trailer near Baltimore over Thanksgiving Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I will be arriving in Baltimore on the weds before thanksgiving, and hopefully heading for the Turkey Bowl at Summit Point Friday morning. My mom lives in town on Charles St near Hopkins - no place to drop a 20' car trailer there. Does anyone have a place to stash it for 48 hours? North or west preferred. Sent from my mobile device _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 22 06:25:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3A42580A7E for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 06:25:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2470B25800A5 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 06:25:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from [72.177.110.20] ([72.177.110.20:53173] helo=[192.168.0.7]) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 98/B6-25152-89F80745; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 13:28:57 +0000 References: <2CC0199E-1801-4661-97B1-DEAB0A6FF6D6@atkinsglobal.com> From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 07:28:56 -0600 To: "" , David Foreman Subject: [Fot] Fwd: CVAR group 2 nov 2014 sat pm part1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Part one of the CVAR group 2 nov 2014 sat pm race. The weather was cold and air was dense. Earlier in the day, I set a personal record at TWS of 2:04. Of course that was not even close to enough to be able to catch a glimpse of that white thing up front. This was a fun race with the blue fiat and yellow 914 (Dave Foreman). Sorry about the lead in, skip to about 5:30 to see the start. I'll load part two later today. If you like this track, come join us in feb 2015, it will be your last opportunity to run at this historic place. It is being converted to a neighborhood later in 2015. If you do join us, be ready for some stiff competition. We routinely have 35+ grids in group 2. Last weekend was 40+. Great people in group 2 too. Maybe we will even toss in a BBQ and T-shirt for your towing efforts. Greg Begin forwarded message: > From: "Blake, Gregory S" > Date: November 22, 2014 at 7:19:42 AM CST > To: Greg and Alison Blake > Subject: CVAR group 2 nov 2014 sat pm part1 > > Check out this video on YouTube: > > http://youtu.be/JTFP1Qa4LQs > > > > > This email and any attached files are confidential and copyright protected. If you are not the addressee, any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. Unless otherwise expressly agreed in writing, nothing stated in this communication shall be legally binding. > > The ultimate parent company of the Atkins Group is WS Atkins plc. Registered in England No. 1885586. Registered Office Woodcote Grove, Ashley Road, Epsom, Surrey KT18 5BW. A list of wholly owned Atkins Group companies registered in the United Kingdom and locations around the world can be found at http://www.atkinsglobal.com/site-services/group-company-registration-details > > Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 22 06:47:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CFA92584567 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 06:47:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C562580449 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 06:47:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from [72.177.110.20] ([72.177.110.20:50795] helo=BlakePC) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 27/E8-25152-9C490745; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 13:51:07 +0000 From: "Greg & Alison Blake" To: , "'David Foreman'" Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 07:51:03 -0600 Thread-Index: AdAGW1sighGJfLdCQtaSPZSXGTLSjA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] CVAR group 2 nov 2014 sat pm part 2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Part two will be loaded at the following link in about 2 hours... http://youtu.be/1CN8W8IUYFQ -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg And Alison Blake Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 7:29 AM To: ; David Foreman Subject: [Fot] Fwd: CVAR group 2 nov 2014 sat pm part1 Part one of the CVAR group 2 nov 2014 sat pm race. The weather was cold and air was dense. Earlier in the day, I set a personal record at TWS of 2:04. Of course that was not even close to enough to be able to catch a glimpse of that white thing up front. This was a fun race with the blue fiat and yellow 914 (Dave Foreman). Sorry about the lead in, skip to about 5:30 to see the start. I'll load part two later today. If you like this track, come join us in feb 2015, it will be your last opportunity to run at this historic place. It is being converted to a neighborhood later in 2015. If you do join us, be ready for some stiff competition. We routinely have 35+ grids in group 2. Last weekend was 40+. Great people in group 2 too. Maybe we will even toss in a BBQ and T-shirt for your towing efforts. Greg Begin forwarded message: > From: "Blake, Gregory S" > Date: November 22, 2014 at 7:19:42 AM CST > To: Greg and Alison Blake > Subject: CVAR group 2 nov 2014 sat pm part1 > > Check out this video on YouTube: > > http://youtu.be/JTFP1Qa4LQs > > > > > This email and any attached files are confidential and copyright protected. If you are not the addressee, any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. Unless otherwise expressly agreed in writing, nothing stated in this communication shall be legally binding. > > The ultimate parent company of the Atkins Group is WS Atkins plc. > Registered in England No. 1885586. Registered Office Woodcote Grove, Ashley Road, Epsom, Surrey KT18 5BW. A list of wholly owned Atkins Group companies registered in the United Kingdom and locations around the world can be found at http://www.atkinsglobal.com/site-services/group-company-registration-details > > Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you > really need to. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 22 08:01:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A232825849BD for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 08:01:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm28-vm1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm28-vm1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.216.160]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751042580876 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 08:01:02 -0700 (MST) s=s2048; t=1416668681; bh=Yit80eMhgtOY40+8nCVpHobyDYHySbC3ZRb28ahrHFQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:From:Subject; b=SyrJDVG4SjzgWc8RBkqgvK85FuXNxE40xJ1/213uOeHopsd1/ZuRkN1oiOoSPfFNuUaOchBlQAxPAeEHv7PAX16b1/avd+Pboa/wH1F76IbOzVEWkXn76BB6RRNTu5QurrorJBt1K8x1ZveHMgwfFUYJyGrvnSVkjGi5CD9nWQXmbSikt/wdxbncc9oSPVSk6IwLDY80HhRuUa5WeacbRB7Czwk+MoUbJaXMnP7wf6pi5G+dcwErgXmEtLhObLDYfsRy0BxdIbrMUR6qyGpCzkZnru40+8PDBDPwPgZke5A+SP63DBlFRVG5HA6lZlWTnVD5VKMIuSLwCNt6DivlDQ== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=FhCYoTR0z5rfBtWKyvb28Y3vjTgiFevF5619rVL8dSFIzKnTA6UYagrc3tFNiLPVTpbeqjLS9KiDMDfMMwaGl5l5nsSdyKniUB3g1J3/R/Lw9MaKaiXthGEzpYafywAeartdI+ovROq5Ka6KzjaJFjQVfiQ7o8PRAT1ZtWF6FbfkFV/NBiVhTQPsD0x9rEuc3hSMCBqy/0hazBCAhCW5eLG3Se2ZJPOXvwbAItRf5JkikUuNHY+fehsS2LJ2eTR8ndhSSAGsDYC4a2wAXFNrqh3QiDVm/kfZOW/r9N1vwOSqc++dE4d8p6UdtSn5CzLnuT5kkhBcsnGiBAVc0hHl7Q==; Received: from [98.137.12.63] by nm28.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Nov 2014 15:04:41 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.224] by tm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Nov 2014 15:04:41 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1032.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Nov 2014 15:04:41 -0000 BKXkTU06IOCvGnrdRqwRrT8d.1OEihZQD5CBeNcvr8B7kq3lSo7wGnF6xsij5Ejy5nIKm_UDsFiB 3cJyG01G1Dy3v4.CyIcSY3fItFGU_mXr9ebioVHUnFz0AhxVTi9glH4yXVd75KKHUZqnuDJ8mgO8 ASBfMcuLO2A_ngcNYzH4FXqZk1rWb3FcEAcaQxOdeDFtoMfVJqK6DzSSmVzHxDSKI0uJYhpp4kwo 1sCe9f38DuzwoQWb0XWW6JZMAepYuEoacpzAu8f6fyXcZDmfYdyA_dgLhbbk9qeLynBFHTVWRvVc JIEhmeW0awykRbaqkeo_V8vqJwRDy66Mzn3q_JYCLXYLi7QWgBiwHAEw44fR7.uR.9LYajw4Kn1_ .fGqpFnfAyMhlSa0MYfet7OWZYb8V3WS91GI_7IaqGFc..oh9Ak72LgBU84iNaueZXHrHWdBw0q4 EVjeH Received: by 98.137.12.252; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 15:04:40 +0000 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 15:04:40 +0000 (UTC) From: John Wagner To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] Koni shocks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Where is a good place to have Koni shocks rebuilt? B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B John WagnerJust the wrench _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 22 08:32:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7666E2584526 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 08:32:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37FA2580449 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 08:32:41 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge02 smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [166.176.123.241] ([166.176.123.241:8390] helo=[10.232.153.88]) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id B4/13-32558-37DA0745; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 15:36:20 +0000 References: <2CC0199E-1801-4661-97B1-DEAB0A6FF6D6@atkinsglobal.com> <56023980-5304-46A8-8894-0AA818FC9D00@austin.rr.com> From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 09:36:18 -0600 To: "" , David Foreman Cc: Scott Booth Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: CVAR group 2 nov 2014 sat pm part1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Reports of my video link not working. Try this. http://youtu.be/JTFP1Qa4LQs > On Nov 22, 2014, at 7:28 AM, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: > > Part one of the CVAR group 2 nov 2014 sat pm race. The weather was cold and > air was dense. Earlier in the day, I set a personal record at TWS of 2:04. Of > course that was not even close to enough to be able to catch a glimpse of that > white thing up front. > > This was a fun race with the blue fiat and yellow 914 (Dave Foreman). > > Sorry about the lead in, skip to about 5:30 to see the start. I'll load part > two later today. > > If you like this track, come join us in feb 2015, it will be your last > opportunity to run at this historic place. It is being converted to a > neighborhood later in 2015. > > If you do join us, be ready for some stiff competition. We routinely have 35+ > grids in group 2. Last weekend was 40+. Great people in group 2 too. > > Maybe we will even toss in a BBQ and T-shirt for your towing efforts. > > Greg > > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: "Blake, Gregory S" >> Date: November 22, 2014 at 7:19:42 AM CST >> To: Greg and Alison Blake >> Subject: CVAR group 2 nov 2014 sat pm part1 >> >> Check out this video on YouTube: >> >> http://youtu.be/JTFP1Qa4LQs >> >> >> >> >> This email and any attached files are confidential and copyright protected. > If you are not the addressee, any dissemination of this communication is > strictly prohibited. Unless otherwise expressly agreed in writing, nothing > stated in this communication shall be legally binding. >> >> The ultimate parent company of the Atkins Group is WS Atkins plc. Registered > in England No. 1885586. Registered Office Woodcote Grove, Ashley Road, Epsom, > Surrey KT18 5BW. A list of wholly owned Atkins Group companies registered in > the United Kingdom and locations around the world can be found at > http://www.atkinsglobal.com/site-services/group-company-registration-details >> >> Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really > need to. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 22 08:42:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A972584852 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 08:42:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm17.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm17.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.176.59]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538C725807F1 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 08:41:56 -0700 (MST) s=s2048; t=1416671135; bh=78FZJ+r5N9yb5XmVTtMCHBdvIdAfYa3YTITw4Dkn9GM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:From:Subject; b=jguUiwa4EIPsvQbTt1h2G9B4036M6o/5f0CGOgP9fo7xXy9gKYO8cNoJjni3YzARsA3T3MJwfbnnUrohW5NplwRZRLugR0FW22yMNjnjX8M56pUDQCryfQhS83XfhrxqpBIqDHVcbBS5pNCiwX4gkR7cqbXi5JkCrDSynQdOEd298uommQ8fL5XEK7FNqc66V4E8988SSpc94OQ9K6BK1/zVWg6CmeUpaaj2u3Fik8b+TsnBp91vzpcD2P9m+yIc1fhzjBohE6Iuk5zG/BPTVspDIpJfveZ8m/Wz5r1XEdA9z0lkVr/BP0qkBh+BzcwPOkPVggZ47iPE5QiAle9Piw== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=SMGKYtbqFvUB0BCuvS+FdR79aKhlC2/qnFQ576E/5KYu/HTUyzhnE6GxEO8thkObEapih86vjTE7yHBiQC78PFYI6dwgEXL5Sm76jmsJbhKre/RxpNKpkLkpYTdGUpfN2+MEJSjItS7g8ju4rYe2qIrU4sTyy8viUrnEVLDVHY8prb0sNwtgJSpn+iSd35y0G6t7qfBJ+TG8TqbeeWTvHdoHJxGQyd8geWRKD0pn1FhrRplltFjSuzaOYFnbKvCPJU0GwuppPI5bxrbNjcChh6NEru5Pn5zgdECsPO4MhA69Jkxhw0ESYTj0VuWvQkzGy4JaLS0Cz12JcQ0QQ+oklg==; Received: from [216.39.60.180] by nm17.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Nov 2014 15:45:35 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.209] by tm16.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Nov 2014 15:45:35 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1017.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Nov 2014 15:45:35 -0000 m8Ni6HplrW0k2QWpfFgGfWIF9PYQAoKkBhJsiAojdKULnvSFoBx49KZpwQOAi1ByXX_0wNXscmAB hTdRxatujeVRt8F1JgATvQY6CAwK.Tn8ziP2OUqyTN.Ma58OIw1kFVxmNOrwQz0fKvev4_FGd6R7 tO6gVS_TfnK9vYNi.WDSwaoCvebsuToZj4OtmHtwYpl97jrT3W0zmy6ZaaaZdjKnok9zddra7Yqb 4yTD2oIAehDO8B0Vh9K4ZagjYqfKzMF1a0Njn3gQg5renrnUIquDyfwgFV_95Kn45DtrH.HyGoYT BnOFl9jV_vPtKOZAeh_QuIRkLJHkbl_5kheNRDfYRMmtFCeAnIITlzTf4KM34rrqGB2Tr63gH5L_ X85mI.5aYbhMbV4sY0XdX5O7.GI1v_ATbA4fwLJePVTR5qFdTczci2m7oQePYtLAVM5n7e0jNB_Y MXVJS Received: by 216.39.60.209; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 15:45:34 +0000 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 15:45:32 +0000 (UTC) From: John Wagner To: FOT List Triumph Subject: [Fot] Koni shocks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Does any one Know a good place to rebuild koni shocks?B B B B Thanks John WagnerJust the wrenchHappy thanksgiving _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 22 09:08:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 034CE25843DC for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 09:08:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C791225809E3 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 09:08:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from hpd530 ([71.116.36.193]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NFG002PQ7NXV950@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 10:11:58 -0600 (CST) a=dgAzUI+lILTWfq/CSWBZ6Q==:117 a=IJ9pWlWUkYEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=5y4faFyK3SkA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=WzOf35YH9r6sOvANG3MA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=psXREZS0v_AA:10 From: "Bill Tobin" To: "John Wagner" , "FOT List Triumph" References: <421744713.1220155.1416671132527.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10798.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 11:11:56 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fot] Koni shocks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Does Truechoice in Columbus OH still do them? Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wagner" To: "FOT List Triumph" Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 10:45 AM Subject: [Fot] Koni shocks > Does any one Know a good place to rebuild koni shocks?B B B B > Thanks John WagnerJust the wrenchHappy thanksgiving > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 22 09:28:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060D125844A6 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 09:28:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-relay-3.cniteam.com (omr-relay-3.cniteam.com [209.143.0.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE8E25800A5 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 09:28:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from rg7.cniteam.com (rg7.cniteam.com [209.143.0.247]) by omr-relay-3.cniteam.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id sAMGW1eu038937 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 11:32:01 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([216.201.14.237]) by rg7.cniteam.com (MOS 4.4.5-GA) with ESMTP id BET43200 (AUTH tws@bright.net) for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 11:32:00 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 11:32:06 -0500 From: Ted Schumacher User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <1074818914.1237789.1416668680187.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10704.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> refid=2.7.2:2014.11.22.155420:17:10.202, ip=, rules=__MOZILLA_MSGID, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, DATE_TZ_NA, __HAS_FROM, __USER_AGENT, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NO_NAME, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __REFERENCES, __IN_REP_TO, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __TO_IN_SUBJECT, __ANY_URI, URI_ENDS_IN_HTML, __FRAUD_CONTACT_NUM, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, __C230066_P5, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, SUPERLONG_LINE, __FORWARDED_MSG, BODY_SIZE_1300_1399, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_NXDOMAIN, __URI_NS, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, TO_IN_SUBJECT, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS, REFERENCES refid=str=0001.0A020207.5470BA80.01D7,ss=1,re=0.001,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2014-06-20 05:37:11, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46, mode=multiengine Subject: Re: [Fot] Koni shocks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net John and list. Many times the cost of rebuilding approaches the cost of new. We can get you a price for rebuild - what shocks? There are also so good alternatives for shock choices. Ted On 11/22/2014 10:04 AM, John Wagner wrote: > Where is a good place to have Koni shocks rebuilt? B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B > John WagnerJust the wrench > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tedtsimx@bright.net > > > > -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx@bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 22 15:31:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D46E2580995 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 15:31:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa08-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa08-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.105]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ACDD258080E for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 15:31:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from rocky ([24.255.156.66]) by p3plsmtpa08-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id Jmaq1p00r1SE0Kc01marRH; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 15:34:52 -0700 From: "Rocky Entriken" To: "John Wagner" , References: <1074818914.1237789.1416668680187.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10704.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 16:49:25 -0600 Subject: Re: [Fot] Koni shocks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes. Koni themselves! I have a business card from Lee Grimes, Koni Automotive Product Manager, who was on-site doing rebuilds at the SCCA Solo Nationals. Tell him what ya got and what ya want. Phone 859-488-0316, cell 849-630-9350, e-mail lee.grimes@itt.com Couple years ago they rebuilt a pair of 30-year-old shocks for me. They didn't even blink. --Rocky . "There are only three true sports -- bullfighting, mountain climbing and motor racing. The rest are merely games." --Barnaby Conrad (NOT Hemingway) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wagner" To: Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:04 AM Subject: [Fot] Koni shocks > Where is a good place to have Koni shocks rebuilt? B B B B B B B B B B B > B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B > B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B > B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B > B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B > B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B > B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B > John WagnerJust the wrench > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rocky@spitfire4.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 22 16:38:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188282584C85 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 16:38:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42EA0258051C for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 16:38:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from [67.255.13.17] ([67.255.13.17:60268] helo=Russlaptop) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id E6/19-20097-05F11745; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 23:42:08 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: "'FOT'" , Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:41:52 -0500 Thread-Index: AdAGreSYjvYCH+opTbycDaG8wo0EOw== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] TR250;TR6;GT6 5spd conv Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Aluminum Conversion bell housing and T-9 transmission I have a new conversion bell housing that will fit any 6 cylinder Triumph and a corresponding T-9 transmission (Ford Mercur) I was going to use in a TR-250 ground up project but my plans have changed. If interested, please contact me off line. Pictures are available. This is a bell housing not normally available outside a complete conversion "kit". Product of UK. Trans is in good usable condition with a good supply of Ford parts to maintain it. Russ Moore Spitfire #49 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 22 19:24:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6A02584501 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 19:24:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC1S18.hotmail.com (blu004-omc1s18.hotmail.com [65.55.116.29]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D11025809D8 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 19:23:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU402-EAS413 ([65.55.116.9]) by BLU004-OMC1S18.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:27:16 -0800 From: marty To: =?utf-8?Q?Rocky_Entriken?= , =?utf-8?Q?John_Wagner?= , =?utf-8?Q?FOT?= Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 02:26:30 +0000 FILETIME=[FFA71100:01D006C4] Subject: Re: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Koni_shocks?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have used Koni directly also. Marty Sent from Windows Mail From: Rocky Entriken Sent: bSaturdayb, bNovemberb b22b, b2014 b5b:b35b bPM To: John Wagner, FOT Yes. Koni themselves! I have a business card from Lee Grimes, Koni Automotive Product Manager, who was on-site doing rebuilds at the SCCA Solo Nationals. Tell him what ya got and what ya want. Phone 859-488-0316, cell 849-630-9350, e-mail lee.grimes@itt.com Couple years ago they rebuilt a pair of 30-year-old shocks for me. They didn't even blink. --Rocky . "There are only three true sports -- bullfighting, mountain climbing and motor racing. The rest are merely games." --Barnaby Conrad (NOT Hemingway) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wagner" To: Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:04 AM Subject: [Fot] Koni shocks > Where is a good place to have Koni shocks rebuilt? B B B B B B B B B B B > B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B > B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B > B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B > B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B > B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B > B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B > John WagnerJust the wrench > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rocky@spitfire4.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 22 20:09:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C1F25845C1 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 20:09:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC2S6.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s6.hotmail.com [65.55.111.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272D125806C8 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 20:06:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU402-EAS80 ([65.55.111.73]) by BLU004-OMC2S6.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Sat, 22 Nov 2014 19:09:58 -0800 From: marty To: =?utf-8?Q?FOT?= Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 03:01:46 +0000 FILETIME=[F6E1D4A0:01D006CA] Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?TR6_Damper?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Doing a TR6 engine for a local gent. His original damper was pretty rough so he purchased a new aluminum replacement from a rebuilder. His original pulley was a wide belt and he specified a wide belt replacement. The replacement measures 3/8 at the widest point while the original was 1/2. He questioned the supplier and was assured it was for the wide belt. Ibm guessing they make one size and try and sell it for both applications. Ibm not so sure this is the right thing to do. Any thoughts? Marty Sent from Windows Mail _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 26 10:19:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B79542584B1A for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 10:19:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1377F258068A for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 10:18:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mce01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mce01.mx.aol.com [172.29.27.207]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 0C58E70407439; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 12:22:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-aea09g.mail.aol.com (core-aea09.mail.aol.com [172.27.23.9]) by mtaomg-mce01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 229E638000083; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 12:22:40 -0500 (EST) To: stanpart@tops-tele.com, blang@mit.edu, net@newenglandtriumphs.org, fot@autox.team.net From: robertten1@aol.com Received: from 173.166.108.137 by webmail-va001.sysops.aol.com (149.174.115.81) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 26 Nov 2014 12:22:40 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 12:22:40 -0500 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1417022561; bh=rxRT0xsFtK4vOeKxWbyL5xh/zzT0PdS+jD3Tn+9pGM4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jw3WEBDep3p2BGkBumdRJ7H1tpZ8q2LY+VY/Gqnodb9eYZU4ILgJbasuY9GCXYQqv RncFewDMztNiI+SEpWREo4moVsInwVkE6ZXKMA1QnIsxly1JAPa+Rt6X6CAL92TbnG K7QXFmOJcT2B4odC8wXAh8lg2jODrgykESR5+gYQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d1bcf54760c603b5e Subject: [Fot] Happy Thanksgiving Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Just a quick note to wishing you ALL a warm and hearty Turkey Day ! Be sure to save room for desserts. Bob T _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 26 13:52:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40DCE2584E76 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 13:52:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3BD2580AFC for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 13:52:22 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge03 smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [166.176.121.85] ([166.176.121.85:12375] helo=[10.118.175.11]) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id F5/6D-31220-46E36745; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 20:56:04 +0000 From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 14:56:02 -0600 To: "" Cc: Scott Booth Subject: [Fot] TR4 for sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone know this car? http://www.wirewheel.com/1962-Triumph-TR-4-Vintage-Race-Car-due-in-soon.html _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 26 17:41:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7BE258080D for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 17:41:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy5-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy5-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.38.55]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 12A5B25806C7 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 17:41:09 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 24258 invoked by uid 0); 27 Nov 2014 00:44:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw3) (10.0.90.84) by gproxy5.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 27 Nov 2014 00:44:50 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw3 with id LQkl1p00L1NzpT901QkoVH; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 17:44:50 -0700 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=5y4faFyK3SkA:10 a=afUhhfNVAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=SSk0HxNlXqVnV-lYTG8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=mh2Y5zELPOkA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=51876 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XtnCP-0003xD-6L; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 17:44:45 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 18:44:37 -0600 To: Greg And Alison Blake , "" From: Tony Drews References: <05B59E1E-4CA7-487E-9943-FD1A4F262ECE@austin.rr.com> {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Cc: Scott Booth Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 for sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I believe it belonged to John Hagen in Buffalo MN according to my results sheets from the Kas Cup @ Road America in 2013. I remember seeing the car, don't remember the driver although I'm horrible with names and would probably recognize him if I saw him. It got down to the 2:59's which isn't bad for that track. For comparison, I eventually made it into the 2:55's or 2:54's, I think. Cheers, Tony Drews At 02:56 PM 11/26/2014, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: >Anyone know this car? >http://www.wirewheel.com/1962-Triumph-TR-4-Vintage-Race-Car-due-in-soon.html >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 26 18:17:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767902584CCF for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 18:17:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB89025806C7 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 18:16:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mcd01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mcd01.mx.aol.com [172.26.223.207]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id CE2887040064D; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 20:20:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-ada05c.mail.aol.com (core-ada05.mail.aol.com [172.27.0.5]) by mtaomg-mcd01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 9748238000083; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 20:20:40 -0500 (EST) References: <05B59E1E-4CA7-487E-9943-FD1A4F262ECE@austin.rr.com> To: ablake2@austin.rr.com, fot@autox.team.net From: Bruce Lapierre Received: from 198.14.221.225 by webmail-va071.sysops.aol.com (149.174.105.44) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 26 Nov 2014 20:20:40 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 20:20:40 -0500 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1417051240; bh=3FPYL8JC6ONFZv3Drrqq7Ab+W4zRVxZZ2pZXw0RcN+M=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=k7kQwwrj0iYVW+xWS488xLigJA/sYr74+xoSYB9FbRfzrxcD4O/IqmqPtI67oudJH JtL3CQfjlgP+ab7aq33QRMF5FIXAe9jhbIA4dN7tts9+1Om1dAKL1qF+qYoQCd81rR DteiBJdjnsmcM26rz915zi4uQaw6bD81n/62L5Pg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1adfcf54767c6878d7 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 for sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net No but it looks great and ready to go - - - - - FAST!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Greg And Alison Blake To: Cc: Scott Booth Sent: Wed, Nov 26, 2014 6:51 pm Subject: [Fot] TR4 for sale Anyone know this car? http://www.wirewheel.com/1962-Triumph-TR-4-Vintage-Race-Car-due-in-soon.html _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 27 12:06:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5933258452E for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 12:06:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f177.google.com (mail-lb0-f177.google.com [209.85.217.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756D12580978 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 12:06:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-lb0-f177.google.com with SMTP id 10so4604297lbg.36 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 11:10:20 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=cxWs8ydSu4DC1abKYTFjnRpqMiuA89j5YJrI1NpZdjo=; b=v4+eotfdJ29Yzj98P+Gb9ZM2Y/AA6Y6iaqy6DoJdCWU51psUGwWczjSdGXKfJl3Jbc aTz6ZqTM9cDlKVsUv68tyXMArmbxDVPWKMkjFq3zM2zdFkztgX/adJVw8yVaxnadS8t1 NBtUTBebIeZ6tJ1ecLFSeWuON64wAO5QYacQ1sQ+P8eEjL4ooxqjOXHJuRQQ6C3S+tOY 0Wv4fNr/yhaVPjODN8h0/ahxeEHqxw+RbKagJDXLQiL7JHCxg0yx2MYI4dx8fg6UByF2 8pUeN8hPiczoNHre83M/Swm/pk6BWcsHQMxivbHgMdOb0Aktp0oBU+1w/rDwD9wD4PIL 4wuA== fa4mr40873339lbc.84.1417115420299; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 11:10:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.57.165 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 11:09:40 -0800 (PST) From: Kas Kastner Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 11:09:40 -0800 To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Crass commercial Announcement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net All four of books are now available as a download, cheap too, see it on kaskastner.com (well, cheapish) I have turkey to pay for today also. Everyone have a happy time. . *Never be beaten by equipment.* _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 27 12:26:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00882584593 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 12:26:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p01c12o143.mxlogic.net (p01c12o143.mxlogic.net [208.65.145.66]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8B92580458 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 12:25:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO ATLPEXCAS01.xc.lan) by p01c12o143.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.2.0-3) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id 89b77745.0.77437.00-345.195606.p01c12o143.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Thu, 27 Nov 2014 12:29:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::c824:a29e:45a5:b81c]) by ATLPEXCAS01.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 14:29:12 -0500 From: John Hasty To: FOT Thread-Topic: T-Day Thread-Index: AdAKeGvJzZfy3RkESIiNC7Gp2uId7g== Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 19:29:11 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US Content-ID: <39EDB31F021DF248915FE1F546886918@xc.lan> a=VR8QHrWKYhK80xkEBGCjUg==] a=kj9] a=YlVTAMxI] a=CjuIK1] a=PZI9sFAr__] Subject: [Fot] T-Day Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net >From beautiful Lake Norman, a great Thanksgiving to all! _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 29 16:12:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A5A25809EE for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 16:12:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SNT004-OMC2S44.hotmail.com (snt004-omc2s44.hotmail.com [65.54.61.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C2B9258069C for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 16:11:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT407-EAS314 ([65.55.90.73]) by SNT004-OMC2S44.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Sat, 29 Nov 2014 15:15:37 -0800 From: Rich Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 18:16:08 -0500 To: "fot@autox.team.net" FILETIME=[6273CB60:01D00C2A] Subject: [Fot] Viton Rear Seal ?s Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net For those who have done this before, what clearance do you end up with between the seal and the crank flange? I'm getting around .020" which seems too little to me? Thanks, Rich Rock _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 29 19:43:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D02A258449C for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 19:43:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC4F258076E for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 19:40:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from [184.58.139.230] ([184.58.139.230:57318] helo=Steve) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 9B/F5-20166-6948A745; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 02:44:38 +0000 From: "Steve Yott" To: "'Rich'" , References: Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 20:44:36 -0600 Thread-Index: AQI7FSUVuCiuoWkz5SDHZYaMeqdFEZuiYQaQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Viton Rear Seal ?s Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Rich, I have installed a number of these and feel that if you are measuring only .020" that the seal may have crept during the install process. This is easy to have happen since there is a lot going on during the setting of the crank. First question would be, did you machine your own aluminum scroll seal for the Marx seal or did you purchase the kit? I know that the parts provided in the kit are machined properly and that machining your own can give inconsistent results. I machine my own since I built a fixture to hold the seal halves on the mill before the kit was available. What I do after getting the crankshaft in place and the bearing caps installed is take two medium screw drivers and work the seal gently into the scroll shell. When I feel it is fully seated I leave it alone until the sealer/glue sets a little so the seal does not creep out. I normally end up with about a 1/16" between the crank flange and the face of the seal. Now the most important part is to make sure that your flywheel bolts will NOT EXTEND PAST THE INNER FACE OF THE CRANK FLANGE!!!!! Too many people have shredded the seals by using too long of a bolt. Measure this twice to ensure the bolts end up at the proper length. It is a great seal setup and works far better than the standard scroll or Rover lip seal type of process. The best of both worlds! Steve Yott -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rich Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 5:16 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Viton Rear Seal ?s For those who have done this before, what clearance do you end up with between the seal and the crank flange? I'm getting around .020" which seems too little to me? Thanks, Rich Rock _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 30 02:51:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBD82584C1A for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 02:51:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58FEE25844DD for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 02:51:30 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id hi2so14580827wib.5 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 01:55:14 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=1LXQmqnRPgfgL+tWphGUTAXhST2nw7QfK3SszTI+jD8=; b=RO+yqdx/Td4wtlyFZqOqUUER0kjdeFxi0do+eYWSDdUdDhcm7mEgbWbHdDeTOkqGxn EQndlPPPkQ/kRst6urwPHEcngiRm1fTMVdpVfdYWZn/k2e5MLUJuhyP2QXClM33GYK42 LSJBugSyWEU0AKfm64zOHy0pMX60rllUcSc15FbRMgQO6u845ZxZdnMvDXnCdk6q7qZX mflXoHE3Yb0sY+BlZ5FFjoz3wy7mn5ZOyya2JGmBZci3WUEYuuP6wu+vxyVit/zwnyCl 3fyc78nMeKEZ03TwfgPhkNX+bTFl4L45CmNelUV/3sqgtNX1cO97wudRojSTfWcwak4r w7og== o3mr76551310wie.12.1417341314024; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 01:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from Home ([109.46.77.201]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ji10sm37131661wid.7.2014.11.30.01.55.12 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 30 Nov 2014 01:55:13 -0800 (PST) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Steve Yott'" , "'Rich'" , References: <000201d00c47$9482b630$bd882290$@wi.rr.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 10:55:10 +0100 Thread-Index: AQI7FSUVuCiuoWkz5SDHZYaMeqdFEZuiYQaQgAB6WhA= Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] Viton Rear Seal ?s Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Rick, the gap between the seal and the flange is designed to have a minimum distance of 1mm (=0.4"). In most cases you have a little more distance. This 1mm is the safety to deal with crank movement when depressing the clutch. Please make sure that the flywheel bolts don't protrude through the flange. It is important to use a good sealer, like silicone. I had on my race a seal slipping out and was then scrambled by the crank flange. Since then I recommended to use silicone to hold the seal in place. Back pressure in the block can force it out after a while if no sealer is used. Maybe only an issue on race cars and not so much on road cars. Cheers Chris -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Steve Yott Gesendet: Sonntag, 30. November 2014 03:45 An: 'Rich'; fot@autox.team.net Betreff: Re: [Fot] Viton Rear Seal ?s Rich, I have installed a number of these and feel that if you are measuring only .020" that the seal may have crept during the install process. This is easy to have happen since there is a lot going on during the setting of the crank. First question would be, did you machine your own aluminum scroll seal for the Marx seal or did you purchase the kit? I know that the parts provided in the kit are machined properly and that machining your own can give inconsistent results. I machine my own since I built a fixture to hold the seal halves on the mill before the kit was available. What I do after getting the crankshaft in place and the bearing caps installed is take two medium screw drivers and work the seal gently into the scroll shell. When I feel it is fully seated I leave it alone until the sealer/glue sets a little so the seal does not creep out. I normally end up with about a 1/16" between the crank flange and the face of the seal. Now the most important part is to make sure that your flywheel bolts will NOT EXTEND PAST THE INNER FACE OF THE CRANK FLANGE!!!!! Too many people have shredded the seals by using too long of a bolt. Measure this twice to ensure the bolts end up at the proper length. It is a great seal setup and works far better than the standard scroll or Rover lip seal type of process. The best of both worlds! Steve Yott -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rich Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 5:16 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Viton Rear Seal ?s For those who have done this before, what clearance do you end up with between the seal and the crank flange? I'm getting around .020" which seems too little to me? Thanks, Rich Rock _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 30 14:25:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E622580AF2 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 14:25:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m03.mx.aol.com (omr-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316B8258053B for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 14:25:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-mbe01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mbe01.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.173]) by omr-m03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 24CCE7003622E; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 16:29:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.105] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mbe01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 9C66F3800008A; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 16:29:11 -0500 (EST) References: <000201d00c47$9482b630$bd882290$@wi.rr.com> <000c01d00c83$bc3ae5d0$34b0b170$@com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 15:29:10 -0600 To: MadMarx , fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1417382952; bh=0oK/vlsq5hCKVwp+RGe5372hzultARU9dcR6DZv7eN8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=EbwASj21uHrzLKZSgdz+0g8KzyVXiYCR109WZQ8gLGFxz7vdBQhVAlqED/kV2xvHF k3p0e0PAfHf7TfAMlN+QG6s2aobIoveDRLOAPrjoEDUofJ+PW8q2S0nHTrisokQYwg Byl7DepXocaOzzRW3op72HJNiyqX24y0czfp0PTM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afead547b8c277acc Subject: Re: [Fot] Viton Rear Seal ?s Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In the event you have a need, Chris just sent me another 20 kits of the Viton Seal assembly. If you have not machined the scroll off of the crankshaft, this is the new standard in seal replacement for the wet sleeve engine. Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Nov 30, 2014, at 3:55 AM, MadMarx wrote: > > Hi Rick, > > the gap between the seal and the flange is designed to have a minimum > distance of 1mm (=0.4"). In most cases you have a little more distance. > This 1mm is the safety to deal with crank movement when depressing the > clutch. > > Please make sure that the flywheel bolts don't protrude through the flange. > > It is important to use a good sealer, like silicone. > I had on my race a seal slipping out and was then scrambled by the crank > flange. Since then I recommended to use silicone to hold the seal in place. > Back pressure in the block can force it out after a while if no sealer is > used. > Maybe only an issue on race cars and not so much on road cars. > > Cheers > Chris > > > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Steve Yott > Gesendet: Sonntag, 30. November 2014 03:45 > An: 'Rich'; fot@autox.team.net > Betreff: Re: [Fot] Viton Rear Seal ?s > > Rich, > I have installed a number of these and feel that if you are measuring only > .020" that the seal may have crept during the install process. This is easy > to have happen since there is a lot going on during the setting of the > crank. First question would be, did you machine your own aluminum scroll > seal for the Marx seal or did you purchase the kit? I know that the parts > provided in the kit are machined properly and that machining your own can > give inconsistent results. I machine my own since I built a fixture to hold > the seal halves on the mill before the kit was available. > > What I do after getting the crankshaft in place and the bearing caps > installed is take two medium screw drivers and work the seal gently into the > scroll shell. When I feel it is fully seated I leave it alone until the > sealer/glue sets a little so the seal does not creep out. I normally end up > with about a 1/16" between the crank flange and the face of the seal. > > Now the most important part is to make sure that your flywheel bolts will > NOT EXTEND PAST THE INNER FACE OF THE CRANK FLANGE!!!!! Too many people > have shredded the seals by using too long of a bolt. Measure this twice to > ensure the bolts end up at the proper length. > > It is a great seal setup and works far better than the standard scroll or > Rover lip seal type of process. The best of both worlds! > > Steve Yott > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rich > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 5:16 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Viton Rear Seal ?s > > For those who have done this before, what clearance do you end up with > between the seal and the crank flange? > > I'm getting around .020" which seems too little to me? > > Thanks, > > Rich Rock > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4@wi.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing@googlemail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/n197tr4@cs.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 30 16:34:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 373ED258482F for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 16:34:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD2F25846BD for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 16:34:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from [65.25.182.78] ([65.25.182.78:32811] helo=[192.168.100.99]) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 35/7E-29028-35AAB745; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 23:37:55 +0000 From: Allen Washatko To: Friends of Triumph Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 17:37:54 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Head Studs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FoT, Does anyone have experience with head studs stretching? My ARP head studs were installed in 2002 and run in race events for seven years. I didn't race from 2009 - 2014. During that time, I did a frame-off restoration on the TR6. My first event out was the Hawk at Road America this year. After the first few practice runs, I blew a head gasket. We replaced it and went on to place in class. We did find that we were running too much timing and dialed it back. The next outing was the VSCDA fall event at Road America. It was extremely cold (high of 50). We quickly blew another head gasket! This gasket was an upgrade to the stock head gasket I had been running for years. We replaced it at the track and the same thing happened again. The car is running 12.8:1 compression, triple Weber's and full race cam. Studs always torqued using ARP assembly lubricant to ARP recommended torque rating using their three step approach. Torque wrench has been calibrated. The failed gasket has been deteriorating at the bridge between cylinders. Location varies. We checked the flatness of the head and it is perfectly flat. Because it was so much colder at the VSCDA fall event, were we producing more power due to temperatures which caused the multiple failures unlike the Hawk where we were able to finish with much warmer temperatures? Could stretched studs be the cause of this somewhat erratic behavior? Thoughts? Allen Allen & Jody Washatko 1971 TR6 - Number 6 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 30 17:19:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 388212584892 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 17:19:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm46-vm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm46-vm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252FC2580809 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 17:19:00 -0700 (MST) s=s2048; t=1417393365; bh=lnJgqSYYU2wqvcXfyw3YBGEBeidNcJhugY9eN9v3YOQ=; h=References:In-Reply-To:Cc:From:Subject:Date:To:From:Subject; b=FVqUkdmy0q/ptS7eunaFrpGIaivUA5Wbfeihq0w/ZMu9Pt62U9T2NVkX0nyVxeJ7yxUWNxLkNk2rSxBZi0DQdKNpRvWgghvbK/EEUm5x0lBEyz7xjfQvBSyvuQE2an9UsutUZvylSiZVWutZkuqLTonM3QWlJPrW0PytIIRSTrF2kpNomdun3MRdh20Kv6uiU0Z63qPxJ+yDadGJIPj6tNRnuK/koUvS5Wv2IGvkjaGnkjPEgEON8PCs7xwGrmdICOjlX+sN8tOS86tbkWaqvR4WATPlO82auTZ8NW3TMzGczYOFe/pVe18ydI8qk/TCUvIe2IggfMVjGpQM7BkiHQ== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=WtADjIenrQTOUdkIwR8qM22pIHJutJMlxoLTCpYm2Igk6GteCQ6xaCLJlzL1xGBTancgY2YMAK/BZ9ge4DaHV6toX00TspBo8mzDnWnsZ85v7awhx4JWbXy9UiOodNyZRFvVgS3n06VM0extooWWTYlRAFr4w/mMdlPlkQAa33VgfoRm8DIdhYeQstVyL2LIGzsQ3RGekLXXUiaF3MFlYBYKT5DoicXEPZs4U9n6L8Xevae2RMkDkzs9FQvh5U/ZFU7DQ7SHTUuEv2JItie6v4TwtV9dQGZoT7MWX+WrvXr54NBW0jRs8azhLJcqf/nWCbsupDLjBEfV7MLCuITYpA==; Received: from [98.139.215.140] by nm46.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Dec 2014 00:22:45 -0000 Received: from [68.142.230.71] by tm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Dec 2014 00:22:45 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp228.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Dec 2014 00:22:45 -0000 7dZdypgTVn7M0Hh_yNc6AL53xFGILMJtIErmbZW7cZPt81ce6WVHtM7PhXf9 XIJ5Y..qutKxjWkzfnjKsd_RsftOMlM5VRtAZkhS3_yUSZJ7Noc5d04fpycU Y_muilmUqywsDb8C4_E8etuBTrRyUta8pdEJ_et771e2hDfkNYc8SOeovY.b edemzy5gbfBAF6cmsOrhCUBWK_hlzZVjbmYfCH2B3aoBfG2N8rfeKktqTG_j ChpSVCCDi9Grxcfxy0MCd6SLHrUug4LHDdKPjtN1ONtNbFZacl42EqkTnjHI 9xftgvzSb2_tLm1.JbYDPzeAhW_vgfq5Uh_LrUtjrcbWDvpL8GfQvmZIT7nW okjGrBFiEZ.i75Qwn9rz8RSj7M2CiwNde2IB5IjOBrEHT3IMxNCXQRjIGh7v CgtdX0wNJKDTR_s2nSIIwZZ6nSCjRoph4nsqf.5Z1jY7iiTv7ZGOIYKrIblO DGgxBn323fD_MUNaij1RuYrEZP0zr_SpUGepeBJqATZ3AGSKjKDyEIspxFiR _dmhlV8DXJYNj3eJCq8HiZpRAT9FLyOupfSoBOQ4- References: <13C4AA12-6277-431C-A536-AA55012D57DC@wi.rr.com> From: Mike Munson Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 18:22:43 -0600 To: Allen Washatko Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Head Studs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've not had a single gasket failure with the Payen gaskets and I'm running way more compression than that. If you are using Payen gaskets then I would look at trueness of the block. I have been running the same arp studs for 10 years so I don't think that's it unless you got a bad batch. I also machine the block down to eliminate the recess and use early model gaskets. Mike Munson #28 EP TR6 > On Nov 30, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Allen Washatko wrote: > > FoT, > > Does anyone have experience with head studs stretching? My ARP head > studs were installed in 2002 and run in race events for seven years. I > didn't race from 2009 - 2014. During that time, I did a frame-off > restoration on the TR6. My first event out was the Hawk at Road > America this year. After the first few practice runs, I blew a head > gasket. We replaced it and went on to place in class. We did find that > we were running too much timing and dialed it back. > > The next outing was the VSCDA fall event at Road America. It was > extremely cold (high of 50). We quickly blew another head gasket! This > gasket was an upgrade to the stock head gasket I had been running for > years. We replaced it at the track and the same thing happened again. > The car is running 12.8:1 compression, triple Weber's and full race > cam. Studs always torqued using ARP assembly lubricant to ARP > recommended torque rating using their three step approach. Torque > wrench has been calibrated. The failed gasket has been deteriorating > at the bridge between cylinders. Location varies. We checked the > flatness of the head and it is perfectly flat. > > Because it was so much colder at the VSCDA fall event, were we > producing more power due to temperatures which caused the multiple > failures unlike the Hawk where we were able to finish with much warmer > temperatures? Could stretched studs be the cause of this somewhat > erratic behavior? > > Thoughts? > > Allen > > Allen & Jody Washatko > 1971 TR6 - Number 6 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttrs@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 30 19:08:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C34B2584A46 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 19:08:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from icp-osb-irony-out5.external.iinet.net.au (icp-osb-irony-out5.external.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.221]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A707D25849DD for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 19:06:56 -0700 (MST) d="scan'208,217";a="286548613" Received: from unknown (HELO PetersTowerPC) ([125.209.167.124]) by icp-osb-irony-out5.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 01 Dec 2014 10:10:39 +0800 From: "Peter Vucinic" To: "'Friends of Triumph'" Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 13:09:40 +1100 Thread-Index: AdANC91rWRt5VkFeQ/ihSHjabth/DQ== Content-Language: en-au Subject: [Fot] TR6 - Cometic MLS Head Gasket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wondering if anyone on the list has used/purchased a Cometic Multi Layer Steel head gasket from Cometic? Or are there other suppliers for Steel head gaskets for the TR6? Thank you in advance "You can Make a Small Fortune From Motor Racing. As long as You Started With A Lage Fortune!" Kind Regards Peter Vucinic TR4 - TR7 V8 - Spitfir MkII _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 30 19:12:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52B32584B91 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 19:12:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm11.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm11.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.34]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5344258474F for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 19:12:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.196.81.162] by nm11.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Dec 2014 02:16:29 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.125] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Dec 2014 02:16:29 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1001.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Dec 2014 02:16:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 91760 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Dec 2014 02:16:29 -0000 s=s1024; t=1417400189; bh=HlFqtFbPZg2CCcnCEJNNATB6RByJBpdD1QqGgnYzvhM=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=b8h4Fvfv3ZLmBnHm9gxc4RJ9Q2UlcI3+PiA43afH3XMeBP6z6Dvl8ztVKvbuW4AXI8qiXff3wY092b0RaAhV+vmCFjDa4JkDEzHKwdtDzCSE9VZ8g8NDGj8W7yR27ZLZpz6TDHl1V1HfS1R1pGIQCbdKVKPldw8pkrvvd6G3uuE= BR.kaRSF9zido.TBVqWTA3fEOPxQ3NEdE8SiZTtboCohxgwRvwKVUF3qEUo6 eD8ypt1gVGDKzfyeDznP0cbCjE.mqRjQ63i4hxC25nUsd.5QDxXyhDfZQtP8 tLnlIYNB.bf.IQZVyWvEfgvU4._7Ww4tcpUtv3gsU7kOHj2tX.utL5OCPjux K7thBm7D7t0nJIXmW01t4CCm4Vib6iKIaMONNEKNkN6iCvpcSKzz3GG9v33s 8lf8rSHs8TppPtGXIpavQb0_oD3iSj5PpeNuhEyZ5W8qkkyEIGEekLZz22bO IEWv387Fs2wLRPeg3oBbyQbyrqFix3TzoSgCBC.s9YSzvFqitHKNCYYbkrgR HsAE2cHo9xOB71SsKIS0d2nWHUTdtJ_Et2R07LcVWr_q8wWf8__Tve1qAQIP SOSGxMuVWsW7mrnRkvBra2hHyzuDUb9b72xWqqEJG.PQHzfB7kFw8C0efxCG QPb5DcaJDbYKddGf059h2QXh_REFdSjZ.l1giPWp6v0WeFeLC0KZbE7mutLy CzwGY2AUQcXDZj2zBpAVe.MeAx8SJ1bZoOFECF7xECccH Received: from [24.246.169.211] by web181304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 18:16:29 PST QmVzdCBoZWFkIGdhc2tldHMgbW9uZXkgY2FuIGJ1eS4KCgoKT24gU3VuZGF5LCBOb3ZlbWJlciAzMCwgMjAxNCA5OjExIFBNLCBQZXRlciBWdWNpbmljIDxwdnVjaW5pY0BuZXRzcGFjZS5uZXQuYXU.IHdyb3RlOgogCgoKV29uZGVyaW5nIGlmIGFueW9uZSBvbiB0aGUgbGlzdCBoYXMgdXNlZC9wdXJjaGFzZWQgYSBDb21ldGljIE11bHRpIExheWVyClN0ZWVsIGhlYWQgZ2Fza2V0IGZyb20gQ29tZXRpYz8KCk9yIGFyZSB0aGVyZSBvdGhlciBzdXBwbGllcnMgZm9yIFN0ZWVsIGhlYWQgZ2Fza2V0cyBmb3IgdGgBMAEBAQE- References: Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 18:16:29 -0800 From: Rick Parent To: Peter Vucinic , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 - Cometic MLS Head Gasket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Best head gaskets money can buy. On Sunday, November 30, 2014 9:11 PM, Peter Vucinic wrote: Wondering if anyone on the list has used/purchased a Cometic Multi Layer Steel head gasket from Cometic? Or are there other suppliers for Steel head gaskets for the TR6? Thank you in advance "You can Make a Small Fortune From Motor Racing. As long as You Started With A Lage Fortune!" Kind Regards Peter Vucinic TR4 - TR7 V8 - Spitfir MkII _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 30 19:36:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604C12584BF6 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 19:36:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7EC25805FB for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 19:36:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from [216.39.60.176] by nm17.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Dec 2014 02:40:30 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.232] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Dec 2014 02:40:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1003.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Dec 2014 02:40:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 19698 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Dec 2014 02:40:29 -0000 s=s1024; t=1417401629; bh=ud/Xaf3PG7lBdQnEl460Kt9tYBZJgCp0i1ZTXSbJAO4=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GkbMi/1NA7AafBIMD55PmSm+f7HQ3Zg5/7rzJTXC8OksQGt5fE8BOsS3CYOEoePlroop3//zoPcgvz7N+vYexcoZCxDwoDVr83+5kheufnfT+jmuqOCMFviREkN7ysioOuZZw5mwQfoQ/SI8l+EEkiCVxSnvzgInCfpxKp+DKag= 9vwctcGAYcmIieQ9WVABI78MIS9Cup9gaJBEQWN4Ch1hkfirRrDuH2AJ3DSb EQqn4rDGQRz6uK4lNOrM2Jik.qpCcEOv2wc9S7SXuYTMWYljyLffgGKeiAIo 1vt53EZ.ZTKk_HBgqk6n1gIAFH83BdFvxXahPsY7cnlBtPdn6rQ2ccdMd2IQ C5RTg80bZQ1nvRYYC.9ipdtIfZLP6fqXpFtbWNfgeG.HFTi.psi.TRUpMTEe 3RBF.bXFG4qpQ9hi2u6fd0sIpqt3avTBN6QVkNR8CgFR7aFJYd0Re.hvZ48j EDyfGpb3LooX_sRqCUMBPS4BcQGmlNVx4VvzsNLa9uOAnvVwGiMURyq1mwkR CA5.Lc8IOe6Et2DzCrSG34LY1N0wudmpxK7.NLbN5YzbF.yJZQDUnYozhrWP aMenKkCrr75x2cC0c5Ze0YgKlH6HcuaAZN1W_DPazEpTiClywFQuKNNQOoo2 bCrYFhzj0Jcr8rwp19Q_zAB2ZszUakQCyElSywJOFBN8dJLAT1ET9vJXXyi_ QWN4VVphLp6k- Received: from [24.246.169.211] by web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 18:40:29 PST SXQncyBub3Qgc3RyZXRjaGVkIGhlYWQgc3R1ZHMuIFlvdXIgZW5naW5lIGlzIG1vc3QgbGlrZWx5IG9uIHRoZSBlZGdlIGNvbmNlcm5pbmcgeW91ciBqZXR0aW5nLiBJIGJlbGlldmUgeW91ciBkZWR1Y3Rpb24gb24gdGhlIEZhbGwgZXZlbnQgaGF2aW5nIGJldHRlciBhaXIgYmVjYXVzZSBvZiB0aGUgY29vbGVyIHdlYXRoZXIgaXMgY29ycmVjdC4gV2UgaGFkIGEgY3JhenkgeWVhciBjb25jZXJuaW5nIHdlYXRoZXIgY2hhbmdlcy4gSSBhbHdheXMgamV0IGEgbGl0dGxlIGZhdCBhbmQgd2UgaGFkIHRyb3VibGUBMAEBAQE- References: <13C4AA12-6277-431C-A536-AA55012D57DC@wi.rr.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 18:40:29 -0800 From: Rick Parent To: Allen Washatko , "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Head Studs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net It's not stretched head studs. Your engine is most likely on the edge concerning your jetting. I believe your deduction on the Fall event having better air because of the cooler weather is correct. We had a crazy year concerning weather changes. I always jet a little fat and we had trouble at 2 events this year, we didn't lose any motors but quite a few others did. I have an air density gauge and a weather station, they both do the same thing and are mandatory for keeping our engines safe. On Sunday, November 30, 2014 6:38 PM, Allen Washatko wrote: FoT, Does anyone have experience with head studs stretching? My ARP head studs were installed in 2002 and run in race events for seven years. I didn't race from 2009 - 2014. During that time, I did a frame-off restoration on the TR6. My first event out was the Hawk at Road America this year. After the first few practice runs, I blew a head gasket. We replaced it and went on to place in class. We did find that we were running too much timing and dialed it back. The next outing was the VSCDA fall event at Road America. It was extremely cold (high of 50). We quickly blew another head gasket! This gasket was an upgrade to the stock head gasket I had been running for years. We replaced it at the track and the same thing happened again. The car is running 12.8:1 compression, triple Weber's and full race cam. Studs always torqued using ARP assembly lubricant to ARP recommended torque rating using their three step approach. Torque wrench has been calibrated. The failed gasket has been deteriorating at the bridge between cylinders. Location varies. We checked the flatness of the head and it is perfectly flat. Because it was so much colder at the VSCDA fall event, were we producing more power due to temperatures which caused the multiple failures unlike the Hawk where we were able to finish with much warmer temperatures? Could stretched studs be the cause of this somewhat erratic behavior? Thoughts? Allen Allen & Jody Washatko 1971 TR6 - Number 6 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 30 20:49:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A51762584C8F for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 20:49:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p01c12o145.mxlogic.net (p01c12o145.mxlogic.net [208.65.145.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E55E25809D6 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 20:48:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO ATLPEXCAS02.xc.lan) by p01c12o145.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.2.0-3) with ESMTP id af5eb745.2b93a824c940.27981.00-561.65703.p01c12o145.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Sun, 30 Nov 2014 20:52:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO ATLPEXCAS02.xc.lan) by p01c12o145.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.2.0-3) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id 2b5eb745.0.27714.00-379.65048.p01c12o145.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Sun, 30 Nov 2014 20:51:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::c824:a29e:45a5:b81c]) by ATLPEXCAS02.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 22:50:55 -0500 From: John Hasty To: Rick Parent Thread-Topic: [Fot] Head Studs Thread-Index: AQHQDRAx3uU5J7y/6UW4SbQ/YkbiUpx6GeQg Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 03:50:55 +0000 References: <13C4AA12-6277-431C-A536-AA55012D57DC@wi.rr.com>, <1417401629.8042.YahooMailNeo@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US a=VR8QHrWKYhK80xkEBGCjUg==] a=kj9] a=YlVTAMxI] a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8] a=NIk-PmkUk18DIgw1NV0A:] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Head Studs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Gosh.....sounds like my days of keeping our 250cc two stroke alive! Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 30, 2014, at 9:40 PM, "Rick Parent" wrote: > > It's not stretched head studs. Your engine is most likely on the edge concerning your jetting. I believe your deduction on the Fall event having better air because of the cooler weather is correct. We had a crazy year concerning weather changes. I always jet a little fat and we had trouble at 2 events this year, we didn't lose any motors but quite a few others did. I have an air density gauge and a weather station, they both do the same thing and are mandatory for keeping our engines safe. > > > > On Sunday, November 30, 2014 6:38 PM, Allen Washatko wrote: > > > > FoT, > > Does anyone have experience with head studs stretching? My ARP head > studs were installed in 2002 and run in race events for seven years. I > didn't race from 2009 - 2014. During that time, I did a frame-off > restoration on the TR6. My first event out was the Hawk at Road > America this year. After the first few practice runs, I blew a head > gasket. We replaced it and went on to place in class. We did find that > we were running too much timing and dialed it back. > > The next outing was the VSCDA fall event at Road America. It was > extremely cold (high of 50). We quickly blew another head gasket! This > gasket was an upgrade to the stock head gasket I had been running for > years. We replaced it at the track and the same thing happened again. > The car is running 12.8:1 compression, triple Weber's and full race > cam. Studs always torqued using ARP assembly lubricant to ARP > recommended torque rating using their three step approach. Torque > wrench has been calibrated. The failed gasket has been deteriorating > at the bridge between cylinders. Location varies. We checked the > flatness of the head and it is perfectly flat. > > Because it was so much colder at the VSCDA fall event, were we > producing more power due to temperatures which caused the multiple > failures unlike the Hawk where we were able to finish with much warmer > temperatures? Could stretched studs be the cause of this somewhat > erratic behavior? > > Thoughts? > > Allen > > Allen & Jody Washatko > 1971 TR6 - Number 6 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rick.parent@att.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive